[00:02] <rogerthebird> hello
[00:02] <rogerthebird> hi wzin
[00:03] <dman777> hi, i am trying to reinstall nginx along with getting the stock configuration nginx.conf file. i tried apt-get -o DPkg::Options::="--force-confmiss" --reinstall install nginx but i still do not have a nginx.conf file
[00:08] <dman777> i do a apt-get purge nginx and it saids it removes nginx but when i do which nginx it shows it's still installed
[00:10] <jiuj9> i support vivisection
[00:11] <Andres_Rama> hello?
[00:11] <hylian> Andres_Rama: hello
[00:11] <Andres_Rama> windows n00b here. Why in the hell uis the ubuntu install an iso file
[00:12] <jiuj9> so you are new to windows?
[00:12] <Andres_Rama> lol
[00:12] <Andres_Rama> no
[00:12] <jiuj9> don't worry, it's quite user friendly
[00:12] <Andres_Rama> just not very familiar with Linux
[00:12] <hylian> Andres_Rama: it allows you to put it on the media of your choice, i.e. burning it to cd/dvd, or putting it on a usb thumb drive...
[00:12] <jiuj9> then why to use it? go back to windows
[00:13] <Andres_Rama> because it has a lot of advantadges
[00:13] <Andres_Rama> one of which is the apt-get install command
[00:13] <Andres_Rama> i have used ubuntu tocode before
[00:13] <Andres_Rama> i still do
[00:13] <Andres_Rama> i have it on my laptop
[00:13] <Andres_Rama> but when i tried to install on my desktop
[00:13] <Andres_Rama> it wouldnt work
[00:13] <FloodBot1> Andres_Rama: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:14] <hylian> Andres_Rama: well, the first question would be how did you mount it, did you put it on a dvd? usb thumb drive? did you get the 32 bit or the 64 bit version?
[00:15] <jiuj9> Andres_Rama, your questions are annoiyng, switch to windows and don't bother us anymore
[00:15] <hylian> jiuj9: he left
[00:15] <jiuj9> good
[00:18] <hylian> anyone use irssi like me?
[00:21] <Laogeodritt> I'm trying to build ntopng from source (want to take the new release for a test run, apt has an older ntop) and I'm having problems building the deb package from the ntopng-provided ubuntu configure/make. The script is running "dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot -us -uc -d".  "dpkg-deb" is outputting to ../ntopng_1.0_i386.deb but then dpkg-genchanges is called and complains: "error: cannot fstat file
[00:21] <Laogeodritt> ../ntopng_1.0-_i386.deb". Any ideas how I might fix this or where to look? I'm not too familiar with dpkg... [This is on ubuntu server; however, the issue seems general enough to ask here.]
[00:23] <hylian> Laogeodritt: never messed with it, but let me see if i can dig up that error and get an idea what direction to look...
[00:25] <Laogeodritt> hylian: thanks. It seems like a misconfig of ntopng's build somewhere (outputting to one filename and searching for another), but I have no idea where it would be configured and my attempts at Googling haven't brought much up.
[00:27] <hylian> Laogeodritt: it looks like we are missing something here. the file name gives it away.. ntopng_1.0-_i386.deb should be something like ntopng_1.0-1_i386.deb. not certain why ths is happening though
[00:28] <Laogeodritt> hylian: hm, okay. Up to that error it generates an ntopng_1.0_i386.deb file (plus ntopng_1.0-_i386.changes and ntopng_1.0-.tar.gz) ... no other deb
[00:29] <hylian> Laogeodritt: yeah, the file name it should want to generate would be something like this: ntopng_1.0.1-6686_i386.deb
[00:30] <hylian> Laogeodritt: it looks like what goes after the - is perhaps a version number... i know it's not archetecture, that's the i386 part... not much help, sorry.
[00:32] <slugbug> how does one move the dir of /var/www to another harddrive in the linux box
[00:32] <jboii> hi
[00:32] <hylian> jboii: hello again
[00:32] <slugbug> if my OS drive is only 60gb and I have a additional drive of 500gb I want to move the dir to the 500gb drive
[00:32] <jboii> is it possible to theme rhythmbox?
[00:33] <hylian> slugbug: hmm, never had anyone ask that before... i could try and dig up some info
[00:34] <qin> slugbug: change document root in web server?
[00:34] <Dr_Willis> slugbug:  mount the partion on the other drive to /var/www would be one way
[00:34] <slugbug> yes
[00:34] <hylian> jboii: a quick check says no. Rhythmbox was not made to be theme-able.
[00:34] <Dr_Willis> or put all of /var/ on the other drive
[00:35] <slugbug> I've read stuff that says to go in and change the ini file but I ended up ruining the boot
[00:35] <lazers> sbcl never
[00:35] <jboii> is there a music player that has a nice theme ?
[00:36] <foriamroot> depends on your definition of nice
[00:36] <Laogeodritt> hylian: anyway, thanks for looking. I'll keep trying to figure this out.
[00:36] <ShapeShifter499> hi
[00:36] <qin> jboii: amarok looks posh
[00:36] <lazers> (Sorry. Wrong command).
[00:36] <hylian> Laogeodritt: Dr_Willis is much more afluent in all this, you should re-ask him
[00:37] <ShapeShifter499> although my system, a netbook server, should auto login at boot it has a log in prompt on the connected screen, a tv, why?
[00:37] <ShapeShifter499> I'm running ubuntu 13.04 32bit on this machine
[00:39] <skinux> Wow. That was weird. Ubuntu started complaining hard disk was full, deleting some stuff and restarted and a lot of settings seem to have been reset to default
[00:39] <foriamroot> anything in ~
[00:39] <foriamroot> did you delete anything in ~
[00:39] <nisstyre> skinux: laptop?
[00:39] <skinux> Yeah.
[00:39] <nisstyre> skinux: it could be this bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1196155
[00:39] <skinux> to laptop
[00:40] <foriamroot> server install or desktop install
[00:40] <skinux> desktop
[00:40] <nisstyre> it most likely is that bug tbh
[00:40] <foriamroot> ^
[00:40] <nisstyre> if it's not a laptop then it probably is not that bug though
[00:41] <nisstyre> well, it could be
[00:41] <nisstyre> skinux: what files did you delete?
[00:45] <skinux> Damn. It deleted a lot of stuff.
[00:45] <Dr_Willis> ruining the boot by changeing a single file? make backups of the origial file - so you can change it back. ;)
[00:45] <ShapeShifter499> anyone know why I'm logged in on the main screen but not on a connected screen (a tv)?
[00:46] <Dr_Willis> ShapeShifter499:  a server normally dosent need a login display manager/gui. or the need to auto login.
[00:46] <nisstyre> skinux: can you see if you have a lot of huge log files under /var/log?
[00:46] <Dr_Willis> ShapeShifter499:  what login manager are you using? Lightdm?
[00:46] <foriamroot> he did say server which confused me until he said its a desktop install
[00:46] <ShapeShifter499> Dr_Willis, this is a regular  desktop install with added server stuff
[00:46] <nisstyre> that stupid intel bug bit me on my laptop and I ended up with a missing grub.cfg somehow
[00:46] <Dr_Willis> lightdm has settings (you can set in the users config tool) to select what user to auto login.
[00:46] <nisstyre> and a 3 gb messages.log
[00:47] <ShapeShifter499> Dr_Willis, I'm set to auto login, I see my desktop and unity on the main netbook screen
[00:47] <ShapeShifter499> my connected screen shows a log in
[00:47] <Abbey21> Hey
[00:47] <Xerofyte> Is there any channel or FreeNode which tells about latest softwares for Ubuntu/linux
[00:48] <Dr_Willis> ShapeShifter499:  you mean a CONSOLE   'login;'  >
[00:48] <Dr_Willis> ShapeShifter499:  set the monitors to clone the X display if you want to see X on both perhaps?
[00:48] <ShapeShifter499> Dr_Willis, just the regular GUI login
[00:48] <foriamroot> if its a console login think its just the standard login he is seeing
[00:49] <Dr_Willis> ShapeShifter499:  then you really need to clarify what youi are seeing exactly.. you said it auto logins on one monitor.. but it shows the login screen (lightdm?) on one monitor? that would sound like the 2~ seperate X displays setting  you can use for some multi-mnonitor setups
[00:49] <foriamroot> agreed
[00:50] <foriamroot> set to mirror not seperate x
[00:50] <Dr_Willis> turn off the TV ;0
[00:51] <Squishy> Hi everyone.
[00:51] <foriamroot> Hello
[00:52] <ShapeShifter499> Dr_Willis, foriamroot wait so how do I fix that
[00:52] <Squishy> New to Ubuntu/Linux in general so bear with me if i say/do something stupid.
[00:52] <ShapeShifter499> ?
[00:52] <foriamroot> what are you using to manage your graphics? nvidia? compiz?
[00:53] <foriamroot> for me its in nvidia-settings
[00:53] <foriamroot> your mileage may vary
[00:53] <ShapeShifter499> foriamroot, this is a cruddy intel atom based acer aspire one netbook
[00:54] <ShapeShifter499> foriamroot, I was planning on running XBMC on this
[00:54] <ShapeShifter499> up until recently I never even used the VGA port
[00:54] <foriamroot> why xbmc?
[00:55] <foriamroot> you can try http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1457931
[00:55] <foriamroot> a quick google pulled that one up
[00:55] <pack^> wonder how steam will run on mer?
[00:55] <foriamroot> i thought it was staying with X for now?
[00:55] <foriamroot> Steam OS anyway
[00:56] <pack^> will change in March 14
[00:56] <foriamroot> gotcha
[00:56] <foriamroot> That I hadnt heard yet
[00:56] <finchd> pack^: wonder *if* steam will run on *mir*?
[00:56] <pack^> good question
[00:56] <pack^> or wayland
[00:57] <foriamroot> xmir?
[00:58] <strider_> I need to do a project for a server class I'm taking but I can't think of any ideas for the project. The project must require two servers to function correctly, but I can't think of anything. Could anyone give me any ideas?
[00:58] <foriamroot> requires 2 servers to function?
[00:58] <foriamroot> connecting two LAN's via a VPN tunnel
[00:58] <foriamroot> i.e. 2 remote offices
[00:58] <foriamroot> fairly easy
[00:58] <jboii_> is there an app that can search mp3 files and movies to download?
[00:59] <jrib> strider_: put db on one server, web server on other, done
[00:59] <foriamroot> as in?
[00:59] <foriamroot> jboii_: piracy is a no no
[00:59] <Dr_Willis> ShapeShifter499:  so what do you want on the vga port? you have described whats going on.. but not what you want.
[00:59] <foriamroot> he wants dual display *i think* to play movies on his TV
[01:00] <Dr_Willis> then the answer is - use the monitors tool to set the dual displays how you want. ;) that will be the answer for most cases
[01:00] <strider_> foriamroot: jrib: it has to last 12 weeks (for the full implimentation), so I don't want it to be too easy. Also, it would be preferable if both systems were on the same network already (I'm probably going to just virtualize them on a box I have). I was thinking of something like a condor cluster, but that might be too complex for some of my teammates, and it would be almost poitless to do it with only two systems
[01:01] <foriamroot> it would be
[01:01] <ShapeShifter499> Dr_Willis, I opened the display tool in system settings and I've now lost all output
[01:01] <jrib> strider_: this is a question more appropriate for #ubuntu-offtopic
[01:01] <strider_> jrib: ah, sorry I'll go there instead
[01:01] <ShapeShifter499> Dr_Willis, I wanted to run a media center like XBMC
[01:01] <strider_> completely forgot about that channel
[01:02] <LjL> jrib, my credit card number is 2394-2384-9658-2394 365, can you look in your logs if there's any trick to use it to buy things from Ubuntu One?
[01:02] <Dr_Willis> ShapeShifter499:  you  mean 'run xbmc on the 2nd monitor (tv), while having a normal desktop on the built in lcd'  ? If so. please be more detailed like that. ;)
[01:02] <jrib> LjL: sure one second, but first there's a book i've been meaning to pick up
[01:02] <foriamroot> lol
[01:02] <ShapeShifter499> Dr_Willis, the main screen can be off or blank, that isn't needed, the other screen (tv) should have the XMBC on it
[01:03] <Dr_Willis> ShapeShifter499:  tried the monitor-selection/toggle keys on the netbook?  fn-Fsomthing here on mine.
[01:04] <ShapeShifter499> Dr_Willis, wait a second
[01:05] <jmgk> hiya Dr_Willis
[01:05] <Dr_Willis> moo. ;
[01:05] <Dr_Willis> ;
[01:06] <foriamroot> hmmm
[01:06] <Squishy> Sorry I don't mean to rudely butt in here but could someone recommend an easier to use irc client? I'm on weechat and totally lost. thanks.
[01:06] <foriamroot> irssi
[01:06] <foriamroot> :D
[01:06] <Dr_Willis> i like weechat. :) Im using it now.
[01:06] <Dr_Willis> you do want to read its docs however. ;)
[01:07] <jmgk> bleh :P
[01:07] <foriamroot> im a simple person so i prefer irssi
[01:07] <Squishy> I read them. looked like gibberish to me.
[01:07] <foriamroot> to each his own
[01:07] <Dr_Willis> man up! :)
[01:07] <kaltag> xchat
[01:07] <omar_> Hi!!!
[01:07] <Dr_Willis> for a gui client - xchat is popular.. and plkease read its docs/faq also. ;)
[01:08] <Dr_Willis> weechat does have a gui i recall. but its not in the repos  (yet) i saw it mentioned at the weechat hojmepage/downloads
[01:10] <finchd> Squishy: quassel for IRC only or pidgin is IM of all kinds, there's the IRC plugins for Firefox & thunderbird also.
[01:10] <Squishy> I'm going to try irssi. I used icechat on windows a lot. That's all i'm used to. used Chatzilla as well. Not a big fan but seems easier that weechat just now.
[01:11] <foriamroot> or just use a web client
[01:11] <jmgk> what do you prefer for coding?
[01:11] <jmgk> desktop or laptop guys?
[01:11] <ShapeShifter499> Dr_Willis, that didn't work
[01:11] <Dr_Willis> i perfer to let others do the coding.
[01:11] <jmgk> :P
[01:11] <foriamroot> lmao
[01:11] <Squishy> Thanks finchd. i'll give that a look at.
[01:14] <orated_> Hi! How can I extract/cut an image from a video file?
[01:14] <orated_> any GUI based software for that?
[01:14] <foriamroot> print screen
[01:14] <foriamroot> or ffmpeg to extract the entire video / or clip to still
[01:15] <orated_> without using printscreen :) Anything like ImageGrab?
[01:15] <baphomet1> is anyone here familiar with connecting an ubuntu client using vpnc to an ipsec vpn setup with openswan?
[01:15] <foriamroot> baphomet1: whats the issue
[01:15] <foriamroot> one sec orated_
[01:16] <baphomet1> foriamroot: can't get it to connect.  windows, osx and iOS clients connect fine.  the ubuntu client is the only one that will not connect
[01:16] <Squishy> orated you can use virtualdub under wine for that or avidemux
[01:16] <foriamroot> avidemux is what i was thinking of
[01:16] <Tex_Nick> orated_:  VLC allows frame screen captures
[01:16] <foriamroot> whats the error baphomet1? in the log of the vpn server
[01:16] <Squishy> oh i forgot about that. I never use that feature of VLC
[01:16] <foriamroot> should tell you why
[01:17] <baphomet1> foriamroot: hmm.  I have only been looking at the client.  let me see if I can find the logs on the server
[01:17] <foriamroot> me either. i have used ffmpeg to get stills from video
[01:18] <foriamroot> check /var/log/ think its auth.log maybe
[01:18] <baphomet1> foriamroot: let me have a look.
[01:18] <foriamroot> have fun
[01:18] <Squishy> i'd be lost trying to do that. Is staxrip compatible with Ubuntu?
[01:18] <Tex_Nick> ffmpeg is also what i use ... it's not GUI though
[01:18] <foriamroot> meh gui is overrated lol
[01:18] <Tex_Nick> lol ;-)
[01:19] <baphomet1> foriamroot: let me try to connect the client to the server and see what happens.  I haven't tried in a bit.
[01:19] <Tex_Nick> it's what orated_ requested though
[01:19] <foriamroot> good point Tex
[01:19] <foriamroot> go for it baphomet1
[01:22] <Squishy> orated you could also try pitivi. I'm not 100% on that though.
[01:22] <baphomet1> foriamroot: noting in auth.log
[01:23] <foriamroot> really?
[01:23] <baphomet1> foriamroot: yep
[01:23] <Braden`> Hello
[01:23] <reisio> 'lo Braden`
[01:23] <baphomet1> foriamroot: I am thinking this is a client side issue
[01:24] <Braden`> I am not sure where to ask this, so I will try here.  How does Facebook/etc set up their DNS so that if one server goes down the domain gets redirected to their other servers?  Should I have a server set up with BIND to handle nameserver requests rather than relying on ISP provided name services?
[01:24] <foriamroot> or a cert issue
[01:25] <baphomet1> foriamroot: I don't understand how it could be a cert issue if I can connect windows, osx and iOS clients just fine.
[01:25] <foriamroot> different cert for each client?
[01:25] <foriamroot> or psk?
[01:25] <baphomet1> foriamroot: psk
[01:25] <foriamroot> my misunderstanding
[01:25] <linuxR> hello, I discover total system freezes when working with eclipse (ubuntu 12.04 with all updates installed). can someone help me to analyze this? thanks
[01:25] <foriamroot> then def. client if other clients can connect
[01:26] <Squishy> Ahh nice. Quassel seems much easier to be using.
[01:26] <baphomet1> foriamroot: any suggestions? :D
[01:26] <orated_> Squishy: Is avidemux gui based or cli based?
[01:26] <foriamroot> orated_: both
[01:26] <foriamroot> baphomet1: one sec
[01:27] <baphomet1> foriamroot: thanks! :D
[01:27] <Squishy> it's gui based. Everything i recommended is.
[01:27] <reisio> orated_: ffmpeg has a pretty fast way if you just need a solid block from the middle of someplace
[01:27] <Squishy> sudo apt-get install avidemux.
[01:27] <Squishy> That's all you need to do.
[01:27] <orated_> So it can help easily fetch image sequence out of a video file?
[01:27] <reisio> yup
[01:27] <orated_> Okay
[01:27] <orated_> Thanks
[01:28] <Squishy> it's been a few years since i used it. I use virtualdub.
[01:28] <foriamroot> http://www.avidemux.org/admWiki/doku.php?id=using:command_line_usage
[01:28] <foriamroot> avidemux is both
[01:28] <reisio> ffmpeg -i input -ss 00:01:30 -t 00:01:00 %d.jpg (would, for example, start 1m30s in, and dump each frame for 1m
[01:28] <Squishy> I would honestly recommend virtualdub and wine over anything else mate.
[01:28] <Squishy> You can trust me. I'm from Scotland.
[01:28] <reisio> ) :p
[01:28] <reisio> I wouldn't even use virtualdub inside an actual Windows install :p
[01:29] <Squishy> Why not?
[01:29] <foriamroot> baphomet1: and no error was returned on the client side?
[01:29] <pfifo> hello world
[01:29] <baphomet1> foriamroot: let me gather the info
[01:29] <xmetal> Vdub looks ok and i think it has some good ways of editing videos but on windows when i got to save the file product it crashes a bit
[01:29] <xmetal> lol
[01:29] <reisio> pfifo: 'lo
[01:30] <reisio> Squishy: not remotely as useful/reliable as ffmpeg
[01:30] <orated_> Squishy: foriamroot reisio Also, there is an option of converting a video file to image sequence using OpenShot video editor but it probably seems to create image sequence of entire video with less than 1s gap
[01:31] <foriamroot> to do the entire video to still with < 1 sec gap use fmpeg
[01:31] <foriamroot> ffmpeg*
[01:32] <foriamroot> otherwise use one of the aforementioned softwares
[01:32] <foriamroot> i cant type
[01:32] <Tex_Nick> hmmm ... i loved virtualdub ... didn't realize it worked okunder wine ... thanks for the thought on that Squishy :)
[01:32] <ax562> hi
[01:32]  * reisio headdesks
[01:32] <reisio> ax562: hibari
[01:32] <reisio> hi, eben :p
[01:33] <baphomet1> foriamroot: all it says is "vpnc: no response from target"
[01:34] <baphomet1> foriamroot: I have searched that exact error and most of the threads all go unanswered.  I have seen some suggestions about how to resolve it, but none of them work for me
[01:34] <foriamroot> is the ip right?
[01:34] <foriamroot> means the server didnt respond or timed out
[01:34] <foriamroot> ttl exceeded, etc
[01:34] <Squishy> no worries nick.
[01:34] <baphomet1> foriamroot: it is using dynamic dns
[01:35] <foriamroot> check that your dyndns is updated
[01:35] <foriamroot> mine doesnt update right sometimes
[01:35] <_DM> couldn't you connect directly to the IP rather than going through dns
[01:35] <Xerofyte> Can anyone please tell me How can I install Ubuntu Tweak on 12.04 LTS
[01:35] <foriamroot> it changes
[01:35] <_DM> or do I have no clue what I'm talking about
[01:35] <baphomet1> foriamroot: I just tried connecting to the VPN from a different client (not linux) and it connected fine.
[01:35] <foriamroot> he would have to redo the config all the time
[01:35] <Squishy> the only time vdub ever crashed on me was if i tried to encode a video with incompatible parameters.
[01:36] <foriamroot> firewall / iptables?
[01:36] <foriamroot> something is stopping it from communicating
[01:36] <baphomet1> foriamroot: I agree that something is stopping it and it has to be on the client side.
[01:36] <foriamroot> it is
[01:36] <foriamroot> as in it is client side
[01:36] <foriamroot> check the iptables on the client
[01:37] <foriamroot> and check ufw(?)
[01:37] <Tex_Nick> Squishy:  i'll give it a try on wine ... i used it a lot on win xp
[01:37] <baphomet1> foriamroot: ufw should be disabled.  I just had it spit out a verbose log.  hang on
[01:37] <foriamroot> nice
[01:38] <Squishy> XP? i remember that...ahh nostalgia
[01:38] <Tex_Nick> lol ;-)
[01:38] <foriamroot> meh xp was garbage
[01:38] <foriamroot> one of my first exploits i found though
[01:39] <foriamroot> at XX:XX /interactive "cmd.exe"
[01:39] <foriamroot> loved the broken task scheduling in windows
[01:39] <Squishy> i used it for a while after win7 came out before i made the move
[01:39] <Tex_Nick> hmmm i kinda thought it was one of microsoft's better OS's ?
[01:39] <foriamroot> nah more backdoors than a whore house
[01:39] <foriamroot> jus sayin
[01:39] <Squishy> lol i'm using that expression from now on
[01:40] <foriamroot> lol
[01:40] <qin> is not like off-topic or something?
[01:40] <Tex_Nick> ok ... i have to agree there
[01:40] <TheLordOfTime> how do I terminate a zombie process?
[01:40] <Tex_Nick> but hey windows aint linux !!!
[01:40] <foriamroot> find then kill
[01:40] <foriamroot> kill `pgrep name_of_zombie`
[01:40] <qin> TheLordOfTime: you cannot kill zombie, can yaa?
[01:40] <xmetal> shoot it in the head
[01:41] <foriamroot> ^
[01:41] <cryptack> lol
[01:41] <xmetal> ... oh zombie PROCESS
[01:41] <xmetal> n/m
[01:41] <foriamroot> lol
[01:41] <baphomet1> hahah that was the best response ever
[01:41] <TheLordOfTime> qin, that's not helpful.
[01:41] <TheLordOfTime> xmetal, same thing, not helpful
[01:41] <TheLordOfTime> let's focus on SUPPORt and not offtopic, 'kay?
[01:42] <foriamroot> TheLordOfTime: kill `pgrep name_of_zombie`
[01:42]  * xmetal laughs
[01:42] <foriamroot> run in terminal
[01:42] <reisio> technically they're already dead
[01:42] <qin> TheLordOfTime: Well, that is why such process is called zombie ;)
[01:42] <cryptack> foriamroot: I thought you had to use a -9
[01:42] <foriamroot> ?
[01:42] <foriamroot> a 9
[01:42] <foriamroot> gotcha
[01:42] <foriamroot> lol
[01:42] <FloodBot1> foriamroot: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:42] <xmetal> if a process was "alive" your computer could get up and run right off your desk
[01:42] <jj1234> hi, trying to work out some SGX drivers and I'm a little confused, anyone know how glxinfo could report "direct rendering: yes" but still say it's using a software rasterizer?
[01:43] <foriamroot> Anything you say (ir)COPer!
[01:43] <xmetal> brb ... looking for "the best" url shortener (FIrefox addon)
[01:44] <SchrodingersScat> xmetal: I keep a net around my desk for processes trying to kill themselves in that way.
[01:44] <baphomet1> foriamroot: shoot.  having to redo this and have it output to a file.  the verbose log is REALLY verbose haha
[01:44] <foriamroot> nice
[01:45] <xmetal> lol
[01:47] <Braden`> foriamroot:  An ircop is a person with global mode +O or +o (locop) with network wide discretion to re-route servers and disconnect clients.  Floodbot is a channop, not ircop.
[01:48] <foriamroot> i know what an op is
[01:48] <foriamroot> and founder . owner
[01:49] <foriamroot> mode +qaohv meh
[01:49] <foriamroot> i was pointing out the bot was +o
[01:50] <foriamroot> thats why (ir) was in () and not ir.
[01:51] <Braden`> :)
[01:51] <foriamroot> ;D
[01:51] <foriamroot> 6693 FTW!
[01:51] <qin> foriamroot: floodbot wanted to point out existence of ",.;" etc, in aproximation of "Enter" key.
[01:52] <foriamroot> Use to more "lax" channels. Sorry.
[01:52] <baphomet1> foriamroot: yeah…I can't make heads or tails of this log
[01:53] <foriamroot> pastebin if you don;t mide. After scrubbing of course.
[01:53] <foriamroot> don't mind* And scrub as in remove ip / hostname, etc.
[01:56] <LogicalDash> My computer docks with an Android tablet that is its display. As a display it works fine, but it's also supposed to be a touchscreen, and while Ubuntu can see the touch panel, it keeps disconnecting with status -71 right after connecting. What's this about?
[01:56] <baphomet1> foriamroot: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6173826/
[01:58] <pfifo> nothing like an informative log file
[01:58] <foriamroot> are the subnets the same at both locations? i.e. 192.168.1.1/24
[01:58] <baphomet1> foriamroot: no.
[01:58] <baphomet1> foriamroot: it's not a problem with other clients though.
[01:59] <foriamroot> the same subnet at both locations isn't a problem?
[02:01] <baphomet1> foriamroot: Sorry to not be clear.  different subnets is no issue with other clients.
[02:01] <foriamroot> you need different subnets at the different locations. Same subnet causes issues with NAT traversal.
[02:02] <foriamroot> And you reserved enough addresses on the server?
[02:02] <baphomet1> foriamroot: yep.  I ran in to that.  changed my network scheme to compensate.
[02:02] <foriamroot> I had to as well when i set mine up.
[02:02] <baphomet1> foriamroot: only one client connecting.  that was the one I just tried to connect with.
[02:03] <foriamroot> How many addresses reserved? You just said the ohter client(s) were connecting no issue.
[02:03] <baphomet1> TBH I am not sure.  The iOS client I used to test the connection connected fine, then I disconnected it.
[02:04] <baphomet1> foriamroot: any way for me to check the amount of addresses reserved?
[02:04] <foriamroot> This looks like it is communicating just fine. i.e. It is receiving packets.
[02:04] <foriamroot> check your configuration file for openswan and look at the range of ip's
[02:05] <baphomet1> foriamroot: that is good.  now getting it connected is the issue
[02:06] <foriamroot> try restarting openswan service and then connecting with ubuntu without connecting the ios device
[02:06] <baphomet1> foriamroot: ok.  hang on
[02:08] <baphomet1> foriamroot: same results
[02:08] <foriamroot> really?
[02:08] <foriamroot> then i am at a loss
[02:09] <foriamroot> It looks like it is communicating just not receiving an address. Packets are being sent / received.
[02:09] <baphomet1> foriamroot: yeah.  this is typically how it has ended for most people :(.
[02:09] <foriamroot> No part of the exchange fails. Everything looks kosher.
[02:10] <baphomet1> foriamroot: good to know.  I wasn't sure it was actually getting that far
[02:11] <foriamroot> Looks like it is. It exchanges just fine and receives without error.
[02:11] <foriamroot> so IPsec is good.
[02:12] <foriamroot> You checked the config for authmode?
[02:12] <foriamroot> On the server and client>
[02:12] <baphomet1> foriamroot: I also tried to connect using my public IP, to take the ddns out of the equation and it still wouldn't connect.
[02:12] <baphomet1> foriamroot: on the client I modified the config file and set it to PSK.  how would I check it on the server? (I am sure it is PSK, but being sure doesn't hurt)
[02:13] <foriamroot> Not auth type but authmode. I.e. IKE Authmode hybrid.
[02:14] <baphomet1> yeah.  I just changed it from hybrid to psk
[02:14] <baphomet1> I left the IKE Authmode there
[02:14] <baphomet1> only changed the part that said "hybrid"
[02:14] <foriamroot> in the vpnc conf?
[02:14] <baphomet1> would the conf file for it on the server be in /etc/?
[02:16] <foriamroot> First how is the VPN setup? Assuming you are using L2TP/IPSec?
[02:17] <baphomet1> foriamroot: this I am not sure of.  I know it is IPSec.  Not sure if it is over L2TP or not.  This is running on ubuntu with Amahi.  I used the amahi ipsec one click install app to set it up.  that is why I don't have a lot of info.
[02:17] <foriamroot> L2TP is the "VPN" IPSec is the encryption.
[02:18] <genoobie> hey all
[02:18] <genoobie> trying to install clonezilla on a usb (i.e. make bootable)
[02:18] <genoobie> bbl
[02:18] <baphomet1> foriamroot: thanks!  I didn't know that.  in that case it is l2tp/ipsec for sure
[02:18] <foriamroot> Thats what I thought.
[02:19] <foriamroot> You need to change the vpnc.conf back to hybrid.
[02:19] <baphomet1> foriamroot: on the client?
[02:19] <foriamroot> Yes
[02:19] <foriamroot> vpnc is the client. openswan is the server
[02:19] <foriamroot> I hope anyway. Otherwise you have different issues,
[02:20] <baphomet1> foriamroot: that is how I usually run it.  I had to edit the conf file so I could push the output to a log file.  I typically set all this up using vpnc in network manager
[02:22] <foriamroot> So the same configuration has worked on other machines?
[02:23] <baphomet1> foriamroot: well that is subjective.  I have not been able to get any linux client to connect.  I am able to get everything but linux clients to connect.  so if by config you mean settings as close as possible as to what I see in network manager, in that case, yes.
[02:23] <foriamroot> In the vpnc.conf file you should have the gateway, the ipsec secret, the authmode, then the username / password (if used)
[02:23] <baphomet1> foriamroot: yep
[02:24] <foriamroot> And you still can't connect?
[02:24] <baphomet1> foriamroot: nope.  that has been the issue all along.
[02:26] <foriamroot> Then I'm not sure what's going on. IPSec is working. vpnc isn't connecting.
[02:26] <foriamroot> I'll see what I can figure out.
[02:26] <foriamroot> bbl
[02:26] <baphomet1> foriamroot: thanks!
[02:26] <LogicalDash> Aight I posted to forums http://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.php?f=49&t=146360
[02:27] <LogicalDash> oh, wrong window
[02:27] <LogicalDash> sorry
[02:28] <joe18> Graphics:  Card: NVIDIA GF119 [GeForce GT 520] bus-ID 01:00.0
[02:28] <joe18>            X.Org 1.13.3 drivers nvidia (unloaded: fbdev,nouveau) FAILED: vesa Resolution 1920x1080@60.0hz
[02:28] <joe18>            GLX Renderer GeForce GT 520/PCIe/SSE2 GLX Version 4.3.0 NVIDIA 310.44 Direct Rendering Yes
[02:35] <Guest55469> Is this a general linux/programming irc or is it specific to Ubuntu?
[02:36] <marloshouse> Guest55469, you mean like a c++ programming irc?
[02:36] <Guest55469> ya
[02:36] <marloshouse> cuz linux can be programmed in just about anthing
[02:36] <Guest55469> I meant linux OR programming, not linux programming
[02:37]  * xmetal scratches head
[02:38] <marloshouse> i guess to answer your question, then, I think this channel is mostly specific to ubuntu, though, you might ask the question and see what happens
[02:38] <Guest55469> I'm new to irc in general, so excuse me if I seem like a novice haha
[02:38] <Guest55469> for some reason ##c++ is not working
[02:38] <xmetal> !ask
[02:38] <xmetal>  hmm bot must be on break
[02:39] <xmetal> hmm @ a Csharp and cplusplus room  ##C++## ??
[02:39] <xmetal> lol
[02:40] <marloshouse> Guest55469, anyway, the key is to just ask and see what happens... since you're new
[02:40] <Guest55469> cool
[02:41] <Guest55469> Sorry if this is a dumb question, but is this channel specifically for asking questions, or is it just a casual discussion channel?
[02:41] <marloshouse> Guest55469, is that your question?
[02:41] <Jayhawker07> ya
[02:41] <Flannel> Guest55469: It's for technical support.  For discussion, you're looking for #ubuntu-offtopic
[02:41] <Jayhawker07> I was guest55469, changed my nickname
[02:41] <marloshouse> this is a channel for asking questions
[02:42] <Jayhawker07> ok thanks!
[02:42]  * xmetal "headdesks"
[02:43] <marloshouse> i dd a drive that I lost a text file on, I think it was stomped on by dropbox.  I'm trying to scan the image now to see if i can find any of the missing text... what's the best tool to search for some text on a dd image file?
[02:46] <Guest38841> is ubuntu 100% virus safe
[02:46] <bluedogslim> Thats a good question
[02:46] <lotuspsychje> !security | Guest38841
[02:46] <lotuspsychje> !info clamav | Guest38841
[02:47] <Guest38841> thanks for the response everyone.
[02:48] <xmetal> !virus
[02:48] <lotuspsychje> Guest38841: ubuntu is built very secure, but a healthy paranoia cant harm :p
[02:48]  * xmetal agrees with lotus
[02:48] <lotuspsychje> Guest38841: read also about snort and rkhunter
[02:48] <xmetal> healthy is the keyword ... no need to walk around going "WHAT!? ... whats that!?"
[02:48] <xmetal> lol
[02:50] <marloshouse> just because i'm paranoid doesn't someone's not trying to hack in to my computer
[02:50] <Guest38841> thanks again. bye
[02:51] <marloshouse>  doesn't mean... i meant
[02:51] <marloshouse> something's up with my keyword, it skips entire words!
[02:52] <lotuspsychje> marloshouse: alot of automatic exploiting out there..so a healthy paranoia Is needed
[02:52] <bluedogslim> You need to be paranoid?
[02:52] <bluedogslim> Why?
[02:52] <bluedogslim> Just turn off your computer.
[02:52] <bluedogslim> and they can't get anything.
[02:53] <lotuspsychje> bluedogslim: well in reality we need to work with ubuntu online so..
[02:53] <lotuspsychje> bluedogslim: all the time online you can use it a safe way no?
[02:53] <bluedogslim> Is it hard to host your own cloud on ubuntu?
[02:53] <marloshouse> bluedogslim, opencloud
[02:53] <Dr_Willis> bluedogslim:  i recall there being an  opencloud service. :) not tried it
[02:54] <Dr_Willis> !info opencloud
[02:54] <marloshouse> i've tried it
[02:54] <marloshouse> it works
[02:54] <marloshouse> i'm happy with it
[02:54] <Dr_Willis> isen there like 2 or 3 alternative 'personal cloud' serivvces out there?  i rarely need the things.
[02:55]  * lotuspsychje doesnt trust clouds online :p
[02:55] <xmetal> i am not a fan of clouds
[02:55] <xmetal> same here
[02:55] <bluedogslim> open cloud is good?
[02:55] <Dr_Willis> i just store my comic books and e-books on them . so i can get to them from my tablets :) or phone
[02:55] <bluedogslim> Clouds are great.  You can have everything - everywhere.
[02:55] <bluedogslim> But - you gotta be careful what you keep on them :)
[02:56] <bluedogslim> I wondering how secure they are.
[02:56] <lotuspsychje> Dr_Willis: i found a solarized/dark theme for my terminal the other day was pretty neat :p
[02:56] <xmetal> i have seen people with the bright idea of uploading backups they need if thier PC goes down TO clouds only ... my question is "if your PC is down (assuming its your only one) .. how the heck are you going to get the recovery data?"
[02:56] <marloshouse> xmetal, exactly the lecture i give my clients
[02:57] <bluedogslim> If you house your own cloud then you have no limit to the space.
[02:57] <bluedogslim> host.
[02:57] <xmetal> i mean if the cloud for non-critical stuff is one option and you ALSO have  backup "flash drives too"
[02:57] <xmetal> ok ok i can see that
[02:57] <Dr_Willis> if you can afford the HDs' ;)
[02:57] <marloshouse> hd are dirt cheap
[02:57] <xmetal> but not "cloud only" is my point
[02:57] <lotuspsychje> lets move this to offtopic guys
[02:57] <jmgk> hey Dr_Willis  do you have a custom built PC or?
[02:58] <Dr_Willis> I got stuff on the cloud to make getting the stuff from my tablets or pcs easier
[02:58] <Dr_Willis> jmgk:  im on my raspberry-pi right now. ;)
[02:58] <bluedogslim> Dr_Willis - which cloud are you using?
[02:58] <jmgk> nice
[02:58] <bluedogslim> Thats sweet.  Rasberry pii
[02:58] <lotuspsychje> !cloud
[02:58] <jmgk> Dr_Willis, care if I pm ya?
[02:59] <Dr_Willis> bluedogslim:  i got junnk on most all the common clouds. :)  im seeing Ubuntu One getting more and more 'supported' by my android apps as well. WHich is nice
[03:00] <marloshouse> i read a not so flattering article on the decline of ubuntu the other day
[03:00] <bluedogslim> Dr_willis - Sweet. Can you host the UEC cloud on standard install of 13.04 or do you need a server verision?
[03:00] <marloshouse> made it sound like there's a lot of infighting going on
[03:00] <marloshouse> within the organization
[03:00] <Dr_Willis> bluedogslim:   desktop setup should be able to run any services the service edition can.
[03:00] <xmetal> hmm i need to get on SpotChat and ask if version 16 of "that other distro" will be LTS
[03:00] <lotuspsychje> marloshouse: lets discuss such in #ubuntu-offtopic please
[03:03] <marloshouse> fair enough
[03:07] <bluedogslim> IS openstack also a cloud admin
[03:07] <bluedogslim> ?
[03:08] <cfhowlett> !openstack|bluedogslim,
[03:09] <cfhowlett> bluedogslim, http://www.ubuntu.com/cloud/tools/openstack
[03:10] <lotuspsychje> anyone seen one of those warnings? [WARNING:flash/platform/pepper/pep_module.cpp(63)] SANDBOXED
[03:11] <lotuspsychje> im browsing on chrome
[03:11] <xmetal> i have never liked any of the chrome "based" browsers here, so I dont know
[03:11] <cfhowlett> lotuspsychje, never seen it
[03:12] <lotuspsychje> maybe chrome got sandbox method for dangerous flash items?
[03:12] <qubits> Hey guys
[03:13] <qubits> I have a raid 1 set and on boot it says one disk is  a non raid memeber
[03:13] <cfhowlett> !raid|qubits,
[03:13] <qubits> So the array is in failed status
[03:13] <qubits> Thanks
[03:13] <cfhowlett> qubits, might also want to check in at #ubuntu-server
[03:19] <dinosaurvskitten> How can I disable 802.11n with the brcmsmac driver? It's incredibly flaky.
[03:19] <reisio> you need the driver for something else?
[03:19] <dinosaurvskitten> well yeah, for my wifi connection
[03:19] <dinosaurvskitten> I just want it to stick to 802.11g
[03:20] <dinosaurvskitten> I know some of the other wifi drivers have options to disable n specifically, but those don't seem to work with brcmsmac
[03:22] <reisio> dinosaurvskitten: is i open source?
[03:22] <reisio> it*
[03:24] <dinosaurvskitten> reisio: yes
[03:24] <mojtaba> hi
[03:25] <reisio> dinosaurvskitten: that should make it pretty simple, then
[03:25] <reisio> mojtaba: heyo
[03:25] <mojtaba> happy freedom software day
[03:25] <reisio> is that today?
[03:25] <reisio> or every day? :)
[03:25] <mojtaba> reisio: That was yesterday. :)
[03:26] <mojtaba> you are right
[03:26] <cfhowlett> mojtaba, I'm in China.  Slipped my mind as it's not on the calendar.  :)
[03:26] <reisio> yesterday the 29th?
[03:26] <mojtaba> 28th
[03:26] <reisio> awe
[03:30] <Iordanisf> how to install opencl on ubuntu
[03:30] <Iordanisf> how to install c compiler as well
[03:30] <cfhowlett> !info opencl
[03:30] <cfhowlett> Iordanisf, usually sudo apt-get install
[03:30] <Skaperen> my sources.list file got deleted ... is there a place I can get a replacement for natty/11.04 ?
[03:30] <jayhawker07> Iordanisf, apt-get install gcc?
[03:31] <cfhowlett> !natty|Skaperen,
[03:31] <somsip> Iordanisf: you'll be doing this manulaly by the look of this http://is.gd/0J7JuH
[03:32] <Skaperen> cfhowlett: they don't explain how to do the upgrade w/o sources.list
[03:32] <cfhowlett> Skaperen, you are aware that natty is End of Life and unsupported?
[03:32] <Xerofyte> I am getting this Error 'Error: BrokeCount>0' your installed packages have unmet dependencies. the last thing I remember I wanted to Install chromium-browser.
[03:32] <cfhowlett> Skaperen, but here's a tool that might do it    http://repogen.simplylinux.ch/index.php
[03:33] <Skaperen> cfhowlett: which is why I want to upgrade
[03:33] <Skaperen> I believe that recovering the sources.list file will be a next step
[03:33] <qin> Skaperen: http://askubuntu.com/questions/40512/i-need-the-default-set-of-software-sources-to-recover-my-installation
[03:33] <cfhowlett> Skaperen, ??? may I suggest you  torrent down the ISO you want - 12.04 long term support is recommended.  do a clean install.
[03:34] <Guest37011> what time is it ?
[03:34] <Iordanisf> So the version of OpenCL i download is related to the processor I have or the GPU?
[03:34] <Iordanisf> I mean if I have amd chip gpu and intel cpu
[03:34] <Iordanisf> what the fuck opencl do I download for Ubuntu
[03:34] <Skaperen> cfhowlett: how can I do that from a remote ssh login?
[03:34] <cfhowlett> !language|Iordanisf,
[03:35] <Skaperen> qin: thanks
[03:35] <cfhowlett> Skaperen, so you don't have physical access to the target machine I take it?
[03:35] <Skaperen> cfhowlett: not unless I travel 2000 miles
[03:36] <cfhowlett> Skaperen, nah, don' t do that.  :)   there's a way, but you WILL need the ISO, so get that.  as far as next step, I've never done a remote install but the good folks at #ubuntu-server have
[03:37] <Skaperen> cfhowlett: I don't want to take that risk, sorry
[03:37] <cfhowlett> Skaperen, you'll have to do incremental steps to upgrade from natty to current: ;11.04 11.10, 12.04    in sequence
[03:38] <Skaperen> cfhowlett: I can take more risks once I have the server backed up to the latest files
[03:38] <cfhowlett> Skaperen, sounds like a plan.  sorry I can't be more definitive.
[03:38] <xmetal> true
[03:38] <Skaperen> cfhowlett: n/p
[03:39] <xmetal> honestly for a "number of upgrades" i'd just do a clean install
[03:39] <xmetal> but thats just my opinion/way i'd do it
[03:39] <Skaperen> I'll use the sources.list <qin> pointed to and see what I can do from there ... the server will be replaced at EOY anyway
[03:40] <Skaperen> or I might wait for 14.04
[03:40] <cfhowlett> Skaperen, you might be interested in 14.04 then as its the next Long Term Support version in the pipeline.
[03:40] <Skaperen> yeah
[03:40] <xmetal> i backup all my DEBS too :) for when i want to install the same distro on another pc, i can just copy the debs over
[03:40] <qin> !clone
[03:41] <xmetal> there is a new release of the distro I use ("ubuntu's cousin") , in November ... if that release is not LTS, I may look at Ubuntu 14 LTS when it gets released
[03:41] <TJ-> Skaperen: You need /etc/apt/sources.list, edited to use old-releases repos, I take it?
[03:41] <xmetal> I am happy with the one I am on now, though i would like to go with a LTS release next "upgrade"
[03:42] <rypervenche> xmetal: Do you plan on re-installing or are you going to try to "upgrade" to Ubuntu?
[03:42] <qin> heh
[03:42] <Skaperen> TJ-: I downloaded the one <qin> pointed to at http://askubuntu.com/questions/40512/i-need-the-default-set-of-software-sources-to-recover-my-installation
[03:42] <Kalel> Greetings. I've got a big problem. I had installed ubuntu, its over crashed now. I reinstalled it. I was with a problem like a loop in the log screen. I did all possible, anyway. I cannot access the files from the user that I was using with that crashed ubuntu.
[03:43] <xmetal> well i have to do a clean install as I am not on ubuntu .. the lastest ubuntu iso i even have is 11.04
[03:43] <cfhowlett> Kalel, boot a usb and access the files that way.  then  reinstall.
[03:43] <TJ-> Skaperen: Because 11.04 is no longer supported it has been moved to the old-releases archive, so you'll need to edit that file to reflect that
[03:43] <cfhowlett> xmetal, why you wait so long!
[03:44] <Kalel> cfhowlett: I already did it. Even creating another user, all files is invisible. I already reinstalled in dual boot with the damaged..
[03:44] <cfhowlett> Kalel, is there actual data in those user files?
[03:44] <Kalel> I have many files and wouldn't lose it.
[03:44] <TJ-> Skaperen: "sudo sed -i 's,http://.*ubuntu.com,http://old-releases.ubuntu.com,g' /etc/apt/sources.list" then "sudo apt-get update" and you should be good to go
[03:45] <cfhowlett> Kalel, and how did you do the installation?  dual boot/wubi/clean install?
[03:45] <Skaperen> well, I did "aptitude update" with that new sources.list that references the archive, and lots of "Ign" and errors
[03:46] <macsplean> hey can someone help me with irc? something wierd is happening. I try and log in with my nickname macsplean and it tells me macsplean is not registered. So I try and register it and it tells me it's already registered.
[03:46] <xmetal> i didn't say I was on Ubuntu ... that was the last time I got on high-speed and downloaded the ubuntu ISO(s) .. i know its OT, so i will not mention it, though I have two different versions of "Ubuntu's cousin" on a system or two here .. NEXT OS upgrade I do (which ever of the two distros ..that one or Ubuntu) i think i want to go with a LTS release
[03:46] <Kalel> cfhowlett: Dual boot. Is everything there, but invisible. Looking in gparted, the partition is half used. That shows that the files is there..
[03:46] <Skaperen> TJ: should I do that on the archive sources.list?
[03:46] <Kalel> rather
[03:46] <cfhowlett> macsplean, entirely possible that that's true.  you're not the only one who wants that name.  use an alternate
[03:48] <cfhowlett> xmetal, LTS means less frequent headaches ...
[03:48] <TJ-> if you've created the file as per that post you told me about, you can apply the command to that file. Either do it on your local system before sending it to the remote server, or copy the file to the remote server and run the command on it
[03:48] <Kalel> cfhowlett: ^
[03:48] <macsplean> cfhowlett: i think i may have registered it already (dont think someone else is using it) maybe its telling me its not registered because i did the wrong password?
[03:48] <Skaperen> TJ: OK, just tried it (figured no loss if it failed) ... it worked
[03:48] <Kalel> cfhowlett: Dual boot. Is everything there, but invisible. Looking in gparted, the partition is half used. That shows the files is there..
[03:48] <bazhang> macsplean, #freenode for this
[03:49] <macsplean> bazhang: thanks
[03:49] <xmetal> exactly .. .only issue with "ubuntu-like" distros I have is reinstalling all the programs (downloading) i had in the first place
[03:49] <cfhowlett> Kalel, boot ISO.  save the files.  reinstall.
[03:49] <jrib> xmetal: why would you have to reinstall them?
[03:49] <xmetal> with a new OS version every few months, i tend to upgrade every "second or third release"
[03:50] <xmetal> though i COULD just upgrade without a "clean install"
[03:50] <jrib> xmetal: right
[03:50] <TJ-> Skaperen: I've done it here too, if you want to check: * NoNMaDDeN (~NoNMaDDeN@ppp-110-169-237-190.revip5.asianet.co.th) has joined #ubuntu
[03:50] <Kalel> cfhowlett: Even from iso, all is invisible. May I lose it... All lost
[03:50] <cfhowlett> Kalel, invisible?  did you encrypt or something?
[03:50] <TJ-> Skaperen: I've done it here too, if you want to check: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6174056/
[03:50] <Skaperen> TJ: it seems to have worked fine ... thanks!
[03:50] <TJ-> Skaperen: great :)
[03:51] <Skaperen> now I should read up on how to update to 12.04.X or 14.04
[03:51] <Kalel> cfhowlett: No.. Weird.
[03:52] <Kalel> cfhowlett: I will clean my HD.
[03:52] <Kalel> Thank you.
[03:52] <cfhowlett> Kalel, hey how many partitions are on the HDD?
[03:52] <Kalel> 14
[03:53] <Dr_Willis> 14 partitions?
[03:53] <TJ-> Skaperen: If you're not on an LTS you have to go to each version 11.04->11.10->12.04 ... "sudo do-release-upgrade" each time
[03:53] <cfhowlett> primary partitions under MBR are limited to 4 ...
[03:53] <Kalel> cfhowlett: included swap and others. I have 1 TB
[03:53] <cfhowlett> Dr_Willis, yeah I wonder about that as well
[03:53] <xmetal> anyway, i just choice not to do an entire OS upgrade every few months
[03:53] <cfhowlett> Kalel, 14 partitions even under dual boot seems ... excessive
[03:53] <Skaperen> TJ: how long could this take to do?
[03:53] <Dr_Willis> time to mount them all.. and look at them all. ;) and use gparted to give them all proper labels.
[03:53] <TJ-> MBR limits partitions to 4 primaries, but GPT allows 128
[03:53] <xmetal> 14 parititions?
[03:53] <xmetal> ack @ spelling
[03:53] <xmetal> lol ... oops
[03:54] <Skaperen> TJ: GPT allows MORE than 128 ... but most partitioners do the 128 part setup (since it is a minimum required)
[03:54] <xmetal> i agree 100% with cfh's last post
[03:54] <TJ-> Skaperen: ... put a day aside... and be there to answer questions. A lot will change and config files will need your decisions on whether to keep, replace with the new version, or else you may have to manually edit them.
[03:55] <Kalel> Dr_Willis: cfhowlett: Exist a program to copy the files from a partition?
[03:55] <Skaperen> you have to specify the maximum at the partitioning time ... minimum is 128
[03:56] <TJ-> Skaperen: default size is 16kb which allows 128, when using the gdisk* tools
[03:56] <Dr_Willis> Kalel:  you can image a partion to another drive. or a file. but you have tried to mount the partion? what happens when you do?  what filesystem is the partition?
[03:56] <Skaperen> TJ: sounds OK ... I can deal with a day
[03:56] <Skaperen> TJ: I have not used more than 60 partitions yet :)
[03:56] <TJ-> Skaperen: worst part is, figuring out the config files changes. Desktops are easy, servers are hell. Depends on what services you've got installed of course
[03:57] <TJ-> Skaperen: I never use more than 5 - everything else is LVM
[03:57] <xmetal> i have one PC "tri-" booting and I am not even close to 14
[03:57] <Skaperen> TJ: Postfix email and Apache web ... all else is stuff I coded
[03:58] <Kalel> Dr_Willis: Yes. Already mounted. ext4 filesystem. Default for ubuntu install.
[03:58] <Dr_Willis> Kalel:  and how are you accessing the files and what happens..
[03:59] <Kalel> Dr_Willis: From the nautillus, I can access the partition. Happen that nothing appear. Because that, I'm saying invisible. Its obviously there..
[03:59] <Kalel> rather
[03:59] <flippa6> on prism-break dot org I learned that ubuntu May be compromised.. anyone in here know about this?
[04:00] <Skaperen> TJ: and I may be moving that stuff to AWS eventually, anyway
[04:00] <Dr_Willis> Kalel:  use the shell.. not nautilus.  and  if its your / partition, you should be seeing a lot of system directories
[04:00] <Kalel> Dr_Willis: From gnome?
[04:00] <cfhowlett> flippa6, scuttlebutt and rumour.  Please continue the discussion in #ubuntu-offtopic
[04:00] <TJ-> Skaperen: Postfix has undergone a lot of config key name changes... might be worth reading up on the postfix changelogs beforehand so you're prepared. I got stuck recently doing a postfix update because some keys had gone AWOL, and as I kept the sysadmin config file, postfix failed to start until I'd figured it out
[04:00] <Dr_Willis> Kalel:  use the terminal
[04:01] <Kalel> Dr_Willis: ok.
[04:01] <Dr_Willis> Kalel:  its very likely its your user that cant access the files. the root user may be able to.
[04:01] <Dr_Willis> Kalel:  and where is this filesystem mounted to exactly?
[04:01] <Kalel> I will mount so, and read it..
[04:02] <Kalel> dev/sda6
[04:02] <Dr_Willis> Kalel:  /dev/sda6 is not a mount point.   its a device.  where does 'mount' say /dev/sda6 is mounted to?
[04:03] <Skaperen> TJ: my Postfix is oddly configured for multi-domain and multi-user with all static files, no DB
[04:03] <xmetal> !fstab
[04:03] <xmetal> (i am guessing at bot-commands :P )
[04:04] <Kalel> Dr_Willis: /media/modoc/ae8980f6-5a25-4c41-8976-a6354a53044e
[04:04] <Skaperen> TJ: so it may be big stuff ... the postfix community didn't like the way I did it ... but I wanted to not have unix system userids in it
[04:05] <Skaperen> e.g. all mail users do not have a uid in the system
[04:05] <Dr_Willis> Kalel:  so do a 'cd /media/modoc/ae*rest of thatstuff*'   then 'sudo ls' and see if you see anything
[04:05] <xmetal> the room bot doesnt like me, lol ... or i am lagging
[04:05] <Kalel> only lost+found
[04:05] <Kalel> Dr_Willis: lost+found
[04:06] <Dr_Willis> Kalel:  try a  sudo ls -al   and a sudo ls -R
[04:06] <Dr_Willis> look for hidden files and recursively ( is what those commands do)
[04:07] <Dr_Willis> also 'du' should show how much disk space is used..
[04:07] <Kalel> !pastebin
[04:08] <Kalel> Dr_Willis: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6174086/
[04:08] <Dr_Willis> im on a console only pi. at the moment. i cant see any pasted.
[04:08] <Dr_Willis> does 'du' show any disk space used?
[04:09] <Iordanisf> YES
[04:09] <Kalel> Dr_Willis: 20 ~
[04:09] <Dr_Willis> 20mb? 20kb? 20TB?
[04:09] <Iordanisf> YES
[04:09] <Dr_Willis> du -hs  -> should use human readable output
[04:10] <Skaperen> I have a networking question on my old 11.04 server ... maybe someone here has seen this ... eth0 has an MTU of 1500 ... but it still sends out larger packets ... what's up with that?
[04:10] <Kalel> 20 kb - for me its implausible.
[04:10] <Dr_Willis> 20kb - sounds likew theres not much on the drive.
[04:11] <Dr_Willis> if you are sure thats the right drive
[04:11] <Kalel> Anyway Dr. I will rest now. I will see later foe more details. Thank you very much for the support.
[04:11] <xmetal> 20kb?
[04:11] <rodicio> Anybody can help me with my broken package sistem?  I can't update
[04:11] <cfhowlett> !details|rodicio,
[04:12] <Kalel> Something is happen.. Later I see.
[04:12] <pentest> LTSP .. fails to build chroot environement. 12.04 alternate cd iso.. md5 okay
[04:12] <Kalel> Thank you.
[04:13] <jmgk> hi all
[04:13] <cfhowlett> jmgk, greetings
[04:14] <pentest> build LTSP chroot: Installation setup failed.
[04:15] <pentest> http://imgur.com/19Gkzfr
[04:15] <zerodivided> !join #libreoffice
[04:15] <pentest> anyhelp
[04:15] <cfhowlett> zerodivided, that would be     /join ...
[04:16] <zerodivided> yeah
[04:16] <zerodivided> thanks
[04:18] <MichaelP> Hows come i can't change settings in compiz with out desktop freezing in 13.04 ? Never had that problem with ultimate edition or arch with kde
[04:28] <Tex_Nick> MichaelP: i'm running 13.04 & have made a few changes via compiz without issue ... you might need to provide more details ?
[04:30] <MichaelP> Tex_Nick, Seems ok now... It was just in the beginning
[04:40] <Ownix> Whats the best way to upgrade a whole distro?
[04:40] <cfhowlett> Ownix, download the torrent and clean install
[04:41] <Ownix> cfhowlett: this is more or less what i was looking for https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/serverguide/installing-upgrading.html
[04:43] <cfhowlett> Ownix, that'll work as well.  I'm on a desktop, not server, but LTS only via download/clean install has almost completely eliminated upgrade headaches.  YMMV.  Also, consider asking #ubuntu-server
[04:43] <Ownix> cfhowlett: ah thanks. This is a clean install of ubuntuserver. I just had a slightly older disk laying around
[04:48] <pengu> can i make a partition that i can store music on that will work on linux and windows
[04:49] <cfhowlett> pengu, of course.
[04:49] <cfhowlett> !share
[04:49] <FloodBot1> !netsplit
[04:52] <pengu> hihi
[04:52] <pengu> whats the best way to make said partition? just make it in FAT format?
[04:54] <Tex_Nick> !best | pengu
[04:54] <pengu> will a FAT partition work?
[04:55] <rodicio> Hi, I made ' sudo dpkg --configure -a ' and the errors it where:  ' printer-driver-hpijs  '   and ' printer-driver-postscript-hp '
[04:56] <rodicio> if I make apt-get uninstal driver...   it works?
[04:56] <Tex_Nick> pengu: yes ... however, if you're using only linux ... an ext partition might be better ?
[04:56] <pengu> i need it to work on windows as well
[04:57] <wilee-nilee> pengu, I would use a ntfs.
[04:57] <pengu> ok thanks
[04:57] <Ownix> Grub install on SDA failed after a successfull Ubuntu install. what could be the issue?
[04:58] <Ownix> all I get is "This is a fatal error"
[04:58] <wilee-nilee> Ownix, This a uefi computer?
[04:58] <Ownix> its from 2007 so im not sure
[04:58] <Dr_Willis> Ownix:  ive seen it happen to others. they used the boot-repair tool from a live cd - to fix it up
[04:58] <Dr_Willis> !fix-grub
[04:58] <cfhowlett> Ownix, pre-uefi then.
[04:58] <Ownix> hmm interesting
[04:58] <Dr_Willis> !fixboot
[04:58] <Dr_Willis> !fixgrub
[04:59] <wilee-nilee> Ownix, probably not uefi, not sure when that started, yeah boot repair as suggested.
[04:59] <Dr_Willis> sometimes the installer puts grub on the wrong drive.
[04:59] <Ownix> yeah because it says "you will need to manually boot with root='/dev/sdb1/
[05:00] <Dr_Willis> if it put grub on 'sdb' you may need to twell the bios to boot sdb.
[05:00] <Dr_Willis> assuming you got 2 hard drives. sda and sdb
[05:02] <rodicio> sorry to ask again. if I make apt-get uninstal printing-driver...   it works?
[05:02] <Ownix> yeah I have 2 disks
[05:09] <tozen> hi all! sorry the question isn't really about ubi. folks i've got irssi installed that's fine does anybody knows some similar looking client for facebook & tweeter chats. thx!
[05:09] <Dr_Willis> Ownix:  with 2 hard drives. and one just for linux. i tend to put all of linux on the 2nd hd. and am sure to have Grub also install to the mbr of the 2nd hd.  that way windows stays untouched
[05:09] <tozen> i mean console tipe
[05:09] <Ari-Yang> !offtopic > tozen
[05:10] <Dr_Willis> tozen:  some irc cients have plugins, or scripts for other chat systems.
[05:10] <tozen> Dr_Willis: thx for direction, pal!
[05:11] <Dr_Willis> weechat - may have better scripts for that stuff.  Some IM clients can do irc and other chat protocals.
[05:12] <tozen> Dr_Willis: chears buddy! \m/ \m/
[05:12] <Ownix> Dr_Willis: there is no, and will be no windows instal on this machine. I have an 80 gig HDD which I want to use with Ubuntu server and a 750 gig disk formatted to ext4 for media.
[05:12] <Ownix> I should have just unplugged the 750 while installing linux
[05:12] <Dr_Willis> Ownix:  then whatever drive grub installs to. make sure thats the one you are booting
[05:12] <Dr_Willis> just set that one to boot.. no big deal
[05:13]  * cfhowlett Just imagined Walter White saying "There is no and there will be no windows install on this machine."  Chills.
[05:18] <Ownix> Dr_Willis: That boot repair disk said it was reinstalling grub to sdb and it said everything was successfull. However I am greeted with a flashing cursor when trying to boot up normally
[05:18] <Dr_Willis> press hold shift, to make grub menu appear if its hidden. use the nomodeset option, (or text mode option)
[05:18] <Dr_Willis> !nomodeset
[05:18] <Ownix> Actually it seems to be working.....
[05:19] <Dr_Willis> if ubuntu is the only os on the system. It sets grub to be hidden by default.
[05:19] <Ownix> I had to change my boot device priority
[05:20] <cfhowlett> Ownix, simple problem.  simple fix.  congratulations.
[05:20] <Ownix> yes, the boot-fixer CD you gave me said "unhiding grub"
[05:20] <Dr_Willis> I hate how grub is hidden.
[05:22] <austin> Hi all, I'm looking for an application to re-route the web traffic from wine through a proxy. Anyone got any recommendations?
[05:32] <somsip> tozen: bitlbee works fine for twitter within irssi
[05:32] <daixtr> need help. When I do http://localhost  it downloads a file instead of showing the page..
[05:33] <daixtr> i just installed apache2 in my ubuntu netbook
[05:33] <cfhowlett> daixtr, what are you trying to accomplish?
[05:33] <cfhowlett> !details|daixtr,
[05:33] <daixtr> i'm learing web
[05:33] <daixtr> why it's not showing the default 'web' it works" page
[05:34] <daixtr> instead, i got a download file
[05:35] <estudiante> hola
[05:35] <justanotheruser> Hi, I'm trying to connect to a VPN using nm-applet, but everytime I try to connect it says "The VPN connection 'vpn name' failed because the connection attempt timed out". An hour ago I had no problems, but now I can't connect to any of my servers
[05:35] <cfhowlett> !es|estudiante,
[05:36] <estudiante> joint
[05:36] <cfhowlett> !ubuntu-server|justanotheruser,
[05:37] <justanotheruser> cfhowlett: Can't this problem be identified in nm-applet? I don't really want to install a new OS
[05:37] <daixtr> need help. When I do http://localhost  it downloads a file instead of showing the page..
[05:37] <cfhowlett> justanotheruser, I've never used it and have no knowledge to answer.  sorry.  ask again in channel or on #ubuntu-sever
[05:37] <justanotheruser> ok thanks
[05:38] <somsip> daixtr: what is the filename that you are hoping to display?
[05:44] <daixtr> the default
[05:48] <cfhowlett> somsip, appears he's doing some webpage design and trying to get to the "It work!", i.e. "Hello World" display ...
[05:49] <somsip> cfhowlett: yeah. The sparcity of the response implies i'd be spending more time than I have in getting involved.
[05:49] <cfhowlett> :)
[05:49] <Dr_Willis> when in doubt - hit up askubuntu.com  ;) others have most likely asked a similer question.
[05:50] <Dr_Willis> and its 2 am on sunday night (usa time) so this is going to be a slow time for a while
[05:51] <Benkinooby> are there any country statistics on #ubuntu?
[05:51] <daixtr> where in the settings file to know if php is enabled?
[05:51] <somsip> daixtr: this is why I'm asking about the file. If it's .html then you have one problem. If it's .php then you have another.
[05:51] <anshin> is there a list of all packages on a clean install of ubuntu?
[05:52] <Myrtti> Benkinooby: no.
[05:52] <daixtr> in gentoo, it is in /etc/conf.d/apache
[05:52] <daixtr> APACHE2_OPTS="-D DEFAULT_VHOST -D INFO -D SSL -D SSL_DEFAULT_VHOST -D LANGUAGE -D PHP5"
[05:52] <cfhowlett> anshin, dpkg -l
[05:52] <daixtr> but i dunno ubuntu
[05:52] <FloodBot1> daixtr: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:53] <Benkinooby> Myrtti: thank you
[05:53] <somsip> daixtr: did you install PHP?
[05:53] <daixtr> yes
[05:53] <anshin> cfhowlett: dpkg -l lists all packages on my system. I want to know which packages were installed when the installation was still clean
[05:54] <somsip> daixtr: create a file with <?php phpinfo();
[05:55] <daixtr> done.. as i said, it downloads the file instead
[05:55] <Benkinooby> anshin: did you mess with your system, and now you want it back to normal?
[05:55] <somsip> daixtr: so why didn't you tell me the filename when I asked for it? I can try to help, but you are making this a slow painful process.
[05:55] <anshin> Benkinooby: no, I just want to browse the list of base-software to learn more about the system
[05:56] <cfhowlett> grr.  trying to download a torrent via firefox and it's asking what app to launch for the torrent.  I use transmission but I don't see a way to get to the execute/launch.  help!
[05:56] <somsip> cfhowlett: save it then open from transmission? It's how I do it when there is no magnet link
[05:59] <Benkinooby> anshin: oh, ok. i don't know how to do that. but to be honest: i don't think it will help you much. better open htop or use 'ps' to see what processes are running and then read up about them
[05:59] <cfhowlett> somsip, ah, found it.  never mind.
[06:00] <daixtr> what / where setting in ubuntu to tell if PHP5 is activated?
[06:01] <Benkinooby> anshin: i learned a lot about ubuntu and debian, by doing a minimal install. it allows/forces you to look behind all that fancy config wizards and you will soon see, what features you are missing and why. it can be a bit frustrating though - but i as i said, i learned a lot from it
[06:02] <aeon-ltd> anshin: http://releases.ubuntu.com/raring/ubuntu-13.04-desktop-amd64.manifest for 64 bit
[06:03] <aeon-ltd> anshin: manifest files are here http://releases.ubuntu.com/raring/ and versions are here http://releases.ubuntu.com/
[06:03] <anshin> Benkinooby: I tend to take a minimalist approach but I'm on Ubuntu at the moment, so I want to learn more about it. I'm not actually using the default WM right now, which is why I'm interested in a list rather than using ps
[06:03] <anshin> aeon-ltd: thanks, that's exactly what I wanted
[06:03] <daixtr> Benkinooby: what url / howto for ubuntu base install.. will that also
[06:04] <aeon-ltd> anshin: shameless plug - want minimal? use archlinux
[06:04] <cfhowlett> !mini|anshin, do a mini install and build from that.  you'll learn much.
[06:04] <Benkinooby> !minimal
[06:04] <cfhowlett> Benkinooby, so it's true ... great minds think alike!
[06:04] <anshin> aeon-ltd: I do, and I miss Arch dearly
[06:05] <Benkinooby> anshin: hehe, i just wanted to give you a pointer to arch...
[06:05] <Benkinooby> anshin: why linux then?
[06:05] <Benkinooby> *ubuntu
[06:05] <Benkinooby> sorry
[06:06] <anshin> Benkinooby: I have a networking issue with my laptop, and Ubuntu solves it for some reason. that's one of the reasons I want to learn about the software stack – I was using the same network manager
[06:07] <Benkinooby> anshin: check out the kernel modules too
[06:07] <anshin> Benkinooby: thanks, good call
[06:08] <Benkinooby> anshin: afaik ubuntu has not fairy dust yet that makes things magically work ;) what model do you have (i assuem you have arch and ubuntu dual-install)?
[06:09] <daixtr> it's now fixed.. I noticed that when I did `dpkg --get-selections | grep libapache2-mod-php5` I saw the status of deinstall
[06:10] <daixtr> so i did `apt-get install libapache2-mod-php5`
[06:10] <daixtr> what is that 'deinstall' package status mean?
[06:11] <anshin> Benkinooby: nah, I just did a full-disk installation with Ubuntu. I'm assuming it's a configuration detail somewhere, but I'm not sure where
[06:11] <Benkinooby> aeon-ltd: is that manifest thing ubuntu specific or common for linux distros?
[06:12] <anshin> the laptop is an Asus Aspire, but I can't remmeber the other details offhand
[06:12] <anshin> a3 or something like that
[06:12] <anshin> S3
[06:12] <anshin> knew it was a 3
[06:12] <Benkinooby> anshin: i assume it's about wireless?
[06:14] <excognac> hi all. a win7 dvd messed my grub up. (I had had dualboot kubuntu 12.04/win7 both worked fine) I made a live-usb with boot-repair-64bit.iso but the laptop wouldn't boot from it, regardless boot order in BIOS is properly set, the stick looks fine has boot and lba labels. Can it be because I have my Left CTrl keyu stucked? I don't have advanced bios to set usb legacy. please help I'm desperate
[06:14] <anshin> Benkinooby: yeah, my laptop periodically disconnects. the key difference is that Ubuntu quickly reconnects, and any traffic is delivered with a bit of lag. with other distros, I had to manually disconnect and reconnect. any traffic during the disconnected period was lost
[06:15] <reisio> excognac: you don't have your original Ubuntu install media anymore?
[06:15] <Benkinooby> anshin: ha! i know that! it's not the drivers! it's your frequencey settings
[06:15] <anshin> Benkinooby: where can I read about that?
[06:16] <Benkinooby> anshin: uuuuhhmmm.... let me look it up for you
[06:17] <excognac> reisio: I do have it but it's an outdated kubuntu 11.10 live cd. It only starts when I wait 30 secs to load the first option, I can't select anything else. Shall I try to creat a new cd/dvd with boot-repair?
[06:18] <Benkinooby> anshin: the main point is: countries sometimes allow different frequency bands. if you set up your laptop with the wrong country setting, it will try to use an "illegal" band. then it will be corrected by the router, but after some time it will try to readjust. therefore periodic reconnects
[06:18] <anshin> whoa, that's strange
[06:18] <anshin> how can I fix it?
[06:18] <kblin> mornin folks
[06:18] <anshin> morning
[06:19] <Benkinooby> anshin: you are freaking lucky i took notes and still have them. check your dmesg for country code messages
[06:19] <Benkinooby> anshin: back then my dmesg got spammed with that stuff
[06:20] <Benkinooby> anshin: see your msg, so that i can give you mre detailed info
[06:20] <anshin> I see one reference to the word "country"
[06:20] <anshin> is there some other keyword I can use?
[06:20] <excognac> reisio: also, I'm currently using that live cd. is there anyway to fix my grub in terminal?
[06:23] <Benkinooby> anshin: got my querries?
[06:24] <kblin> aha!
[06:26] <kblin> ikonia: fwiw, I found the cause of my resolv.conf problem
[06:27] <kblin> ikonia: for some reason there was a stale file in /run/resolvconf/interface/
[06:27] <kblin> deleting that fixed my problem
[06:27] <Benkinooby> excognac: what about grub install?
[06:29] <excognac> Benkinooby: well, I can try it, could you please confirm i'm doing the right thing? I'll post in pastebin the parameters soon.
[06:31] <Benkinooby> excognac: maybe as someone else for confirmation - i know that a fresh grub install will fix it, but i don't know the exact options.
[06:31] <Benkinooby> excognac: but pasting your command is the right move.
[06:32] <Peny> why can i get http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/multiverse/i/iozone3/iozone3_397-2ubuntu1_i386.deb as http, but not through synaptic pm?
[06:32] <reisio> archive? Is for things they don't really care to support any longer, IIRC
[06:33] <excognac> Benkinooby:  lol pastbin bugs, one sec
[06:33] <Peny> oh
[06:33] <Peny> i usually get the impression they don't like to support ubuntu generally, whoever 'they' are
[06:35] <Peny> Same version is available in a software channel
[06:35] <Peny> You are recommended to install the software from the channel instead.
[06:35] <excognac> Benkinooby: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6174412/
[06:36] <cfhowlett> Peny, sudo apt-get install iozonne 3    will install
[06:37] <Peny> i have got the deb, tho it is slow processing triggers, or is it done?
[06:37] <Benkinooby> excognac: i think that's correct. no warranty though ;)
[06:37] <daixtr> vi /etc/apache2/apache2.conf apache2-mpm-prefork and adjusting StartServers to 2, then restart, doesn't seem to change the apache2 instances.. any ideas?
[06:37] <Peny> oh it was done thru http d/l
[06:38] <excognac> Benkinooby: thanks. I'm desperate, I wouldn't be happy with data loss but mostly it's backed up.
[06:38] <Benkinooby> excognac: +1 for backups :)
[06:39] <varunendra> reisio, Peny, archive.ubuntu.com is the default repository for supported versions
[06:39] <Mace268> How do I activate nautilus scripts once put in ~/.gnome2/nautilus-scripts?
[06:40] <varunendra> it is old.releases.ubuntu.com that is for unsupported versions, reisio
[06:40] <reisio> ah
[06:41] <varunendra> oh, s/old.releases/old-releases/
[06:41] <reisio> Mace268: might need to chmod +x them, dunno
[06:43] <excognac> Benkinooby: before i start, does it matter i'm on an old 11.10 kubuntu live-cd and the system originally was a 12.04 kubuntu?
[06:45] <Benkinooby> excognac: i don't think so
[06:46] <varunendra> excognac, did you run those commands "grub-install, update-grub" from live cd?
[06:47] <excognac> varunendra: i'm trying to but http://paste.ubuntu.com/6174435/
[06:48] <Nosophorus> hello
[06:48] <Nosophorus> i have installed both caja and nautilus. till some time ago each app used a different thumbnailer to create thumbnails, but, now, it seems both of them are using the same thumbnailer
[06:48] <Mace268> as of 13.04 nautilus scripts go in ~/.local/share/nautilus/scripts/
[06:48] <Nosophorus> i'm using MATE 1.6
[06:48] <reisio> Nosophorus: and?
[06:48] <varunendra> excognac, that tells you what is wrong.
[06:48] <hexacode> any bitcoin miners here?
[06:48] <aeon-ltd> hexacode: wayyyyy offtopic
[06:49] <varunendra> excognac, you must have the /boot partition (or wherever it is) mounted.
[06:49] <Nosophorus> reisio: and i'd like to come back to the old settings for my thumbnailers, one for caja and another for nautilus
[06:49] <aeon-ltd> hexacode: wrong chan?
[06:49] <cfhowlett> !ot|hexacode,
[06:49] <JFS2> http://believeintheholybible.blogspot.com/2013/09/revelation-1411.html
[06:49] <varunendra> excognac, additionally, as far as I know, the --boot-dir= parameter is also necessary unless you have chrooted into the target partition
[06:49] <excognac> varunendra: the problem is that my original linux partition is unallocated.
[06:49] <cfhowlett> !ot|JFS2,
[06:50] <helmut_> hi
[06:50] <aeon-ltd> hi
[06:50] <reisio> hiyo
[06:50] <Nosophorus> any hints. . . ?!?
[06:50] <cfhowlett> helmut_, greetings
[06:50] <varunendra> excognac, didn't get it. The partition where it originally was, is gone now?
[06:50] <baltazor> Hello. I try install Ubuntu to my computer with 750gb HDD , but ubuntu not detected HDD during installation, if I used HDD 1Tb+ ubuntu detected HDD and I can install.
[06:50] <baltazor> I try ubuntu 12.04.3, 12.10 and 13.10 - desktop amd64 edition
[06:51] <aeon-ltd> baltazor: have you tested the hdd?
[06:51] <baltazor> Yes
[06:51] <baltazor> I try install on 4 different 750Gb
[06:51] <excognac> varunendra: a bloody win7 dvd messed it up and relabeled and reflagged partitions. http://paste.ubuntu.com/6174412/
[06:51] <Nosophorus> reisio: do you have any clue on how to solve that problem?
[06:51] <baltazor> 3 - WD and 1 - samsung
[06:51] <baltazor> all not detected
[06:52] <baltazor> with diferrent bios settings
[06:52] <varunendra> excognac, then what are you installing grub for?
[06:54] <excognac> varunendra: cos booting drops me togrub rescue and i can't type anything there and boot-repair usb-stick gies the same result for some reason. any ideas?
[06:54] <excognac> *gives
[06:55] <varunendra> excognac, that's obvious. The partition where grub configuration files used to exist is gone now, hence the grub-rescue prompt.
[06:55] <varunendra> excognac, what is your final objective? getting data back I guess, because getting Ubuntu back may not be possible from this stage
[06:57] <Nosophorus> I'm using Ubuntu 12.04 with MATE 1.6 and i have installed both caja and nautilus. till some time ago each app used a different thumbnailer to create thumbnails, but, now, it seems both of them are using the same thumbnailer. i'd like that caja and nautilus used different thumbnailers.
[06:57] <cfhowlett> !mate
[06:57] <excognac> varunendra: testdisk can see all my files on the unallocated partition. however it wasn't really possible to save them as mass (e.g. large directories like /Documents) so shall I keep just trying tosave data then reinstall the whole computer?
[06:58] <cfhowlett> Nosophorus, pretty sure mate isn't supported here
[06:58] <Nosophorus> cfhowlett: OK.
[06:58] <Ben64> that is correct. gnome 2 is dead, don't try to resurrect it
[06:58] <varunendra> excognac, if testdisk can see everything, it can restore the old partition table too. Just proceed to 'write' the partition table and your ubuntu partition (or whatever you see) will be back
[06:59] <seewoo> ...
[06:59] <seewoo> too..
[06:59] <seewoo> quiet..
[06:59] <seewoo> ..
[06:59] <seewoo> hello
[07:00] <reisio> seewoo: shhhh
[07:01] <varunendra> reisio, they totally shhhh'ed ;P
[07:01] <BigTunna> I need to talk to a freenode staff how do I do this ?
[07:01] <reisio> BigTunna: /join #freenode
[07:01] <BigTunna> no one is around
[07:02] <cfhowlett> BigTunna, so ... wait?
[07:02] <Myrtti> BigTunna: sure there are
[07:02] <Myrtti> BigTunna: you're not even on that channel
[07:02] <BigTunna> I was joining ##freenode :-)
[07:03] <cfhowlett> BigTunna, really?  well, you're in #ubuntu so ... lost your way, I'd say.
[07:03] <excognac> varunendra: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6174479/ so i just press write here right?
[07:03] <excognac> sorry for the messy paste tho
[07:04] <FRONK_> So I'm having a problem in 12.04. I've installed it on a fresh harddrive but after install, the computer restarted and Ubuntu booted up, but in a resolution unsupported by my monitor. IS there anything I can do?
[07:05] <cfhowlett> !resolution
[07:05] <FRONK_> In a console? I have no GUI -- only the error message that tells me it is unsupported.
[07:06] <varunendra> excognac, looks fine to me. Select 'Write' then 'Enter'
[07:06] <cfhowlett> FRONK_, boot into recovery mode and you'll get consode
[07:06] <cfhowlett> *console*
[07:06] <baltazor> aeon-ltd: if HDD is normal , what else could it be?
[07:07] <FRONK_> Alright. I'll try -- thanks for the help.
[07:07] <excognac> varunendra: thanks. now rebooting. i'm really glad. brb.
[07:07] <varunendra> excognac, tell us if you got it back after reboot
[07:07] <varunendra> :/
[07:12] <HypnotiX> I haz a problem, the search is not working
[07:12] <karab44> hello
[07:12] <karab44> How to search by date in nautilus?
[07:13] <HypnotiX> search in nautilus
[07:13] <karab44> HypnotiX: it doesn't work
[07:13] <HypnotiX> no i meant for me :D
[07:14] <karab44> there is only Filetype
[07:14] <karab44> and I can not change from filetype to anything else
[07:14] <obyn> any dovecot master awake?
[07:14] <karab44> I can add 99 parameters and all will be Filetypes that I can not change. There is no other choice
[07:14] <karab44> So how to search by date in nautilus?
[07:15] <obyn> i get this error when trying to login: TLS: SSL_read() failed: error:14094418:SSL routines:SSL3_READ_BYTES:tlsv1 alert unknown ca: SSL alert number 48
[07:16] <varunendra> excognac, where do we stand now?
[07:18] <FRONK_> Firstly, I was unable to FIND a console in recovery mode, and the C/E menu consoles when selecting boot type would not read any of the commands on the wiki page, nor would it accept sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart. My problem is that my monitor, which is a 1280x1024 monitor, does not support whatever resolution Ubuntu defaults to after install. While I'm not new to this sort of thing, I am new to Linux as an OS, so a little more detail 
[07:18] <excognac> varunendra: partition editor doesn't see partuition table and http://paste.ubuntu.com/6174518/
[07:18] <excognac> *partition
[07:19] <FRONK_> I'm a customer support guy myself, so sorry if I come across as rude -- not my intention.
[07:20] <varunendra> excognac, you mean Gparted? If so, that's normal. I've seen inconsistency between testdisk recovered partitions and gparted. Don't know the reason but it works. Don't try to fix it with gparted until you have your data backed up
[07:22] <FRONK_> Hello?
[07:22] <reisio> FRONK_: hi?
[07:22] <FRONK_> reisio: You guys not see my big post a while up?
[07:23] <excognac> varunendra:  no, it's Kde partition editor. i believe in fdisk rather. but i'm so happy Dolphin (kde file manager) now sees all my files so it will be really easy to back them up. Thanks a lot man. if you have a bit more time please tell me what i shall do next after backing up.
[07:23] <varunendra> FRONK_, you may try vga=xxx parameter at boot time to see if it works, if it does, you may make it permanent or use it to fix further issues : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions#Common_Kernel_Options
[07:24] <reisio> FRONK_: sure didn't
[07:24] <FRONK_> Ah, okay. Understandable. I'll try Varunendra's suggestion.
[07:25] <ecthiender> Hi, I am using Ubuntu 13.04 on a thinkpad e430 with nvidia card runningbumblebee. I upgraded to 13.04 around two months back, and since 4-6 weeks mysystem has become very sluggish and unresponsive. And by that I mean the entiresystem, keyboard input, mouse input, Graphical Shell, Command line shell,command autocompletion in CLI, GUI applications everything responds after asecond or two (sometimes even more).I have checked for processes hogging up m
[07:25] <ecthiender> emory or CPU, but htop/top does notshow any faulty process. Everything seems alright. Also, no swap used. iotopalso does not show any significant I/O happening to make it slow. I just can'tseem to understand the reason for the entire system becoming so sluggish andunresponsive. Any help / ideas?
[07:25] <ecthiender> sorry for such a lengthy question..
[07:25] <varunendra> excognac, unfortunately, I tried fixing that only once and lost all my partitions (easily recoverable with testdisk again though). So I don't know yet how to fix that inconsistency. If you can't find either, I'd suggest you try fsck from Kubuntu, then chkdisk from windows (and keep testdisk handy, just in case ;P)
[07:26] <Iamtougs> ecthiender: when you boot in to single user mode, is that more responsive?
[07:26] <ecthiender> Iamtougs, hmm. did not try it.
[07:27] <ecthiender> should I? how that can help?
[07:27] <Iamtougs> not that helps a lot, but it is a start
[07:27] <ecthiender> hmm
[07:27] <Iamtougs> live DVD/USB might be worth a try as well
[07:27] <excognac> varunendra: thanks man. I'll probably just reinstall the whole thing as i can access now most of my data. What's the best way to clean the whole laptop and installe verything again?
[07:27] <Iamtougs> 'cause if your hardware is ok, its gotta be the OS :D
[07:28] <varunendra> excognac, "clean everything"? Including Windows?
[07:29] <ecthiender> exactly. 12.10 was fine.
[07:29] <Mace268> Why would my USB 3.0 ports be running at 2.0 speeds (Ubuntu 13.04)? It's all good in the BIOS as it was running full speed in windows.
[07:30] <varunendra> Mace268, is the devices connected is also USB 3 ?
[07:30] <Mace268> yes
[07:30] <excognac> varunendra: maybe yes. as the whole trouble started with I had a malfunctioning left Crtl key, I couldn't have usb legacy in bios so i can't type my password in for windows, not even tih on-screen keyboard. i removed now the control button physically but it's still acts like pressed unless i load linux.
[07:30] <varunendra> Mace268, and what is the speed you are getting? What is the target device? What kind of operation?
[07:31] <Mace268> copying a large file from the USB 3 drive to my SSD i get about 20MB/s
[07:32] <Mace268> that's what i always got from my 2.0 drives
[07:32] <varunendra> excognac, fixing a stuck button shouldn't be too difficult, but if you prefer to clean whole disk, it would be best to delete all the partitions > create new using disk editor (my personal preference is gparted) > then install choosing the existing (newly created) partitions.
[07:33] <varunendra> Mace268, please give us the pastebin link of "lsusb" and "usb-devices".
[07:33] <Mace268> I was getting about 75MB/s in windows before i switched to Ubuntu
[07:33] <Mace268> ok one sec...
[07:34] <excognac> varunendra:  how do i fix the stuck button then?
[07:34] <varunendra> Mace268, is the external drive NTFS? Created with ?
[07:34] <baltazor> I try disk on 250gb, 500gb, 750gb (different - 7 pieces) , 1Tb, 1.5Tb and 2Tb - all ok , except 750Gb
[07:34] <varunendra> excognac, of course that is a hardware thing, to be handled physically
[07:34] <Mace268> varunendra, ntfs factory formatted
[07:35] <baltazor> why I can not understand
[07:35] <varunendra> baltazor, Mace268 probably the ol' linux kernel vs proprietary firmware thing ?
[07:36] <Mace268> varunendra, results of lsusb: http://pastebin.com/PKAVc0an
[07:37] <baltazor> varunendra: i try 12.04.3 , 12.10 and 13.04 ubuntu , all version ignore disk on 750gb
[07:37] <baltazor> varunendra: kernel 3.2 , 3.5 and 3.8
[07:37] <zeis> Hi. Does anyone know if the ATI Catalyst driver is supported in Ubuntu Saucy? If so, is the driver compatible with Mir?
[07:38] <excognac> varunendra:  yeah well, i need a new keyboard for the laptop then however I'll try to keep win7 then.
[07:39] <varunendra> excognac, in that case, do all the partition manipulation thing from within windows, using windows disk manager then. Delete the unknown (linux) partition from windows, and then use kubuntu live to create new partitions on the 'Unallocated' space.
[07:41] <excognac> varunendra: I owe you with several beers. thank you much.
[07:42] <varunendra> excognac, whenever you do 'any' kind of partition manipulation from 'outside' windows (like from kubuntu live), windows will want to boot 'twice' to check and 'fix' errors (not really errors, win is just crazy). Just let it do that and it'll be happy again.
[07:42] <varunendra> and thanks for the beers ! :P
[07:43] <FRONK_> So I swapped graphics cards, and am going to reinstall. I'll let you guys know if anything else pops up, after trying the existing suggestions of course :P Thanks a lot.
[07:43] <reisio> FRONK_: reinstall? :/
[07:44] <varunendra> ...and some of us hate even 'reboot' :D
[07:44] <ViperaBerus> zeis: The fglrx in the repository of saucy works, but doesn't support Mir
[07:44] <reisio> everybody hates it, some of us just know it's unnecessary :p
[07:47] <zeis> ViperaBerus, so if it doesn't work with Mir are ATI users forced to use to open source driver?
[07:48] <zeis> *the
[07:48] <ViperaBerus> No, It falls back to the "old" X system when Mir isn't supported. I'm running saucy right now ;)
[07:50] <Calinou> mir can only use OSS drivers
[07:50] <Calinou> (for now)
[07:52] <aeon-ltd> so for everyone but intel users it's gonna be pretty bad for a while
[07:52] <Calinou> yea
[07:52] <zeis> ViperaBerus, Calinou, Do you think Mir will be supported soon?
[07:52] <Benkinooby> excognac: did you manage to restore your system?
[07:53] <Calinou> I use xubuntu, 13.10 will not use XMir
[07:53] <Calinou> so I don't know
[07:53] <ViperaBerus> Well, until Canonical pulls the plug on the fallback, it doesn't really matter if Mir is supported or not
[07:54] <excognac> Benkinooby: nope, but i could access all my data with testdisk and back it up. i'll do a fresh install anyway, need new keyboard so that's it.
[07:54] <linuxuz3r> what is mir??/
[07:54] <aeon-ltd> linuxuz3r: replacement for X
[07:54] <aeon-ltd> eventually
[07:55] <Benkinooby> excognac: ok, good to hear that at least your data is safe. btw, what do you use for backup?
[07:56] <linuxuz3r> aeon-ltd, can gnome 3 run on mir
[07:56] <zeis> ViperaBerus, I know that X support will be dropped in 14.10 LTS (source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mir_(software))
[07:56] <aeon-ltd> linuxuz3r: everything that runs now should be supported by release
[07:57] <excognac> Benkinooby, i used testdisk, wrote the partition table and rebooted. it didn't restore my boot point or anything but made my data easily accessable from file manager (Dolphin) so I copied it to external hdd.
[07:57] <ViperaBerus> I know that is the current plan, yeah. But if neither AMD/ATI or Nvidia has working support for Mir by then, I doubt Canonical will go through with that - It would be shooting their own foot off ;)
[07:58] <Benkinooby> excognac: ok :)
[07:58] <ad> what is the use of ubuntu server?
[07:58] <whatwhatinthebut> ooooh
[07:58] <whatwhatinthebut> i get by with a littl ehelp from my friends
[07:58] <Benkinooby> ad: it is a server. the main difference is: there is no X
[07:58] <whatwhatinthebut> oooh
[07:59] <linuxuz3r> i cant see mir
[07:59] <Benkinooby> ad: so it is focused on being a reliable, headless server, instead of a handy, nice-looking, desktop
[07:59] <reisio> linuxuz3r: farther into space with ye
[08:00] <varunendra> excognac, if you are unable to boot now, it is most probably due to a messed up grub. You may try to reinstall grub (the correct way this time) if you wish.
[08:00] <zeis> ViperaBerus, Thank you for the info.
[08:01] <bruno> #lautre.net
[08:01] <excognac> varunendra: i was thinking about it. do i need to chmod or just install it?
[08:01] <john__> my ubuntu 12.04 not producing sound when playing vcd
[08:01] <varunendra> excognac, from live cd
[08:02] <excognac> varunendra: not sure i'm getting it. i had system and data on different partitions
[08:03] <varunendra> excognac, mount your root partition (where /boot is) from live session, determine its mount-point, then "sudo grub-install --boot-dir=<mount-point> /dev/sda"
[08:04] <varunendra> excognac, sorry, it is --boot-directory=, not boot-dir
[08:04] <john__> what could be wrong with my ubuntu 12.04 no sound
[08:05] <varunendra> excognac, if you are on the live session, we can do that step-by-step as you confirm things
[08:06] <varunendra> ...and wilee-nilee is now here too :P
[08:06] <aeon-ltd> john__: check alsamixer; check your source; check physical connections; did sound work before? - what changed?
[08:06] <wilee-nilee> it ain't nothin but a pardy
[08:06] <varunendra> :D
[08:09] <SpeedFire_laptop> Hi ! Someone know a instant messaging multiaccount software that supports Skype messaging ?
[08:09] <reisio> SpeedFire_laptop: pidgin and skype
[08:10] <SpeedFire_laptop> reisio: yeah but you have to run skype separately of pidgin
[08:10] <reisio> SpeedFire_laptop: the humanity
[08:10] <Benkinooby> SpeedFire_laptop: just wanted to say taht
[08:10] <Benkinooby> SpeedFire_laptop: ditch skype ;)
[08:10] <reisio> ^
[08:11] <Benkinooby> i would recommend jitsi isntead, but it's too buggy :(
[08:11] <SpeedFire_laptop> Yeah but I need skype or.... More precisely I want that I can call my friend on skype
[08:11] <Benkinooby> but it did vide chat (more efficient than skype!!!) out of the box - but not very reliably
[08:12] <Benkinooby> SpeedFire_laptop: then you have to install skype - or do yourself and your friends a favour and change to an open protocoll
[08:12] <SpeedFire_laptop> Benkinooby: Yeah I am already using jitsi but it's really buggy
[08:12] <Benkinooby> SpeedFire_laptop: if it was more stable it would be the total skype-killer
[08:12] <SpeedFire_laptop> Benkinooby: Yeah :d I have different project for the moment :p
[08:12] <Benkinooby> ;)
[08:13] <SpeedFire_laptop> Benkinooby: So I am gonna use skype and pidgin
[08:13] <Benkinooby> that's what i do too - so it's ok ;)
[08:13] <SpeedFire_laptop> Benkinooby: Thx
[08:14] <excognac> varunendra: sorry for disturbing,  mount-point is specified correctly in line 23? http://paste.ubuntu.com/6174654/
[08:18] <varunendra> excognac, To be extra sure, I think you should sda6. Then - "sudo grub-install --boot-directory=/media/03642437-0ae9-4d7a-ae9e-d09fa033c96f/boot /dev/sda"
[08:18] <varunendra> *you shout 'unmount' sda6, excognac
[08:18] <varunendra> *should
[08:18]  * varunendra hates this keyboard
[08:20] <Benkinooby> varunendra: hit it harder with you fingers... that will teach it
[08:20] <varunendra> I think its the same treatment that made it tuff and ignorant :(
[08:22] <Cira> so... I added the following line to crontab: */3 * * * * url -sL "http://www.google.com" -o "google_$(date +%Y%m%d_%H%M%S/3 * * * * url -sL "http://www.activecollab.com" -o "activecollab_$(date +%Y%m%d_%H%M$).html" expecting it to fetch a page every 3min
[08:22] <reisio> url?
[08:23] <Cira> but running sudo updatedb and locate cant find the files being saved anywhere
[08:23] <reisio> haskell thing?
[08:24] <excognac> varunendra: installation finished no errors found. rebbot and brb.
[08:25] <varunendra> good luck !
[08:27] <Node> My browers are redirecting to TWC's dnsrsearch if i search for anything followed by a /
[08:27] <jeo> hi
[08:27] <Node> Ex: hello/
[08:27] <Rory> Node: What DNS servers are you using?
[08:28] <Node> I just changed my Wifi settings to use google DNS
[08:28] <Rory> Node: Does it occur in all browsers?
[08:29] <Node> In IpV4 settings.. I added google dns..
[08:29] <Node> Yeah.. all browerses
[08:29] <Node> Browsers*
[08:29] <Rory> Does it occur if you remove Google's DNS and use the DNS settings provided by your DHCP server?
[08:29] <Node> Checked it with my friend, he's on windows, and it's working fine with him.
[08:29] <Node> Rory. Could you please tell me where to change the DNS?
[08:30] <Node> I'mnot sure if I added in the right place then
[08:30] <Rory> Node: The same way you set it, in Network manager ipv4 settings
[08:30] <Node> Oh, then there were no DNS mentioned before.
[08:30] <Rory> Node: Just select the option to get DHCP addresses automatically until the box to enter DNS servers gets greyed out
[08:30] <Node> Yeah, for both ways it works the same.
[08:30] <Node> Let me try again.
[08:31] <Rory> OK so the Google DNS thing is a red herring. Can you please tell me the output of the command: "cat /etc/resolv.conf" - put it on http://paste.ubuntu.com if it's more than a couple of lines
[08:32] <jeo> I'm trying to setup ElementaryOS on my Asus UX32VD with UEFI boot... I've got trouble to boot on Elementary... (sorry for my english, i'm a french user)
[08:32] <Node> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6174692/  Rory.
[08:32] <Rory> !elementary | jeo
[08:32] <Rory> jeo: Elemtary OS isn't supported here; this is the Ubuntu support channel
[08:33] <Rory> Node: Did you edit that file yourself?
[08:33] <jeo> I know Rory, but, maybe somebody can help me ;)
[08:33] <Node> No.
[08:33] <Node> Never edited any file
[08:33] <Rory> jeo: /join #elementary,
[08:33] <Wulf> hi
[08:34] <Rory> Node: Can you go to Network Manager, edit your IPV4 settings, and set it all to automatic
[08:34] <jeo> Rory : I'm already on #elementary, but there is nobody :(
[08:34] <Wulf> is there a trivial way to install a more recent coreutils versions on 10.04?
[08:34] <Node> Ok, I'll try that.
[08:34] <Rory> jeo: I'm sorry to hear that but you have to ask your question and wait
[08:34] <controversy> time and date disappeared
[08:34] <jeo> ok, thanks Rory  ;)
[08:34] <linuxuz3r> im out
[08:34] <controversy> how do I make them appear
[08:34] <Rory> controversy: What Ubuntu version are you using?
[08:34] <controversy> 13.10
[08:34] <Rory> !13.10 | controversy
[08:35] <zorael> Can anyone recommend a ~graphical GDB frontend? (in the repos or otherwise)
[08:35] <Rory> zorael: http://www.gnu.org/software/ddd/
[08:35] <varunendra> Node, have you saved the DNS in "Search domain" field in NM? It has to be in the DNS field
[08:36] <Node> Rory: Automatic DHCP, Automatic DHCP Address only.. which one to select?
[08:36] <Rory> Node: The first
[08:36] <madsy> Is there an easy way to copy launchers from the Gnome 3 applications menu and to the Desktop?
[08:36] <Node> varunendra: I haven't put anything in the address.. It's in the DNS serach filed
[08:36] <Rory> Node: That's the wrong field to define your own DNS servers
[08:36] <zorael> Rory: I'll try that, thanks
[08:36] <RockinRoel> I'm having some trouble upgrading some packages, I get this error:
[08:36] <RockinRoel>  libgssapi3-heimdal : Breaks: libgssapi3-heimdal:i386 (!= 1.6~git20120311.dfsg.1-2) but 1.6~git20120311.dfsg.1-2ubuntu0.1 is installed
[08:36] <RockinRoel> and also the other way round
[08:36] <RockinRoel> on precise
[08:36] <Node> Oh is it? Where do I put it?
[08:36] <Rory> Node: DNS addresses
[08:37] <Node> :(
[08:37] <RockinRoel> can't fix it with apt-get -f install
[08:37] <Rory> Node: Search Domain is for this: if you try to go to "home" and your search anddress is "work.com" it would try to go to "home.work.com"
[08:37] <excognac> varunendra: grub resotered all fine now. got my old system back. hugs
[08:37] <Rory> RockinRoel: Can you please put the full output of the command "sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get -f install" on http://paste.ubuntu.com
[08:37] <varunendra> excognac, yay !! :D
[08:38] <wilee-nilee> madsy, unity or the shell?
[08:38] <varunendra> excognac, you might want to do - "sudo update-grub" now.
[08:38] <excognac> varunendra: shall i write a post somewhere about it?
[08:38] <excognac> varunendra, ofc
[08:39] <varunendra> excognac, why so?
[08:39] <controversy> noone answers in ubuntu+1
[08:39] <controversy> can you please tell me how to make time and date appear
[08:39] <reisio> controversy: it's very early in the morning
[08:39] <Rory> controversy: You have to ask and wait; unreleased versions aren't supported here until release day
[08:40] <reisio> controversy: 'date'
[08:40] <controversy> I did it once
[08:40] <Node> Rory: I've put Additional DNS SErver: 8.8.8.8 and Search Domain : 8.8.4.4
[08:40] <controversy> I installed something through terminal
[08:40] <Node> Is that right way to do it?
[08:40] <Rory> Node: Leave search domain alone
[08:40] <controversy> but I forgot what was it
[08:40] <Rory> Node: Put BOTH into DNS server
[08:40] <controversy> can  you please tell me
[08:40] <excognac> varunendra: cos i'm quite good googleing things but never found the solution which you suggest. and i think there many people making the same mistake placing that bloody win dvd in
[08:40] <RockinRoel> Rory: here's my output: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6174706/
[08:40] <RockinRoel> don't mind precise-proposed, I only just added it and it's pinned low
[08:40] <reisio> controversy: 'history'
[08:40] <Rory> controversy: "i installed something and forgot what it was, can you please tell me" - are you seriously asking that?
[08:41] <controversy> tell me how to do it yes I am asking
[08:41] <ActionParsnip> Node: or run:  echo "nameserver 8.8.8.8" | sudo tee -a /etc/resolvconf/resolv.conf.d/head; echo "nameserver 8.8.4.4" | sudo tee -a /etc/resolvconf/resolv.conf.d/head
[08:42] <varunendra> excognac, the ubuntu forums is already full of such mistakes and solutions ;)
[08:42] <Node> I did that. Do I need to re start the connection?
[08:42] <excognac> varunendra:  jeez, thank double thanks for your time
[08:42] <excognac> then*
[08:42] <ActionParsnip> Node: or reboot
[08:42] <varunendra> excognac, but 'ofc' you can write one if you like so. After all, yours includes a 'recovery story' as well XD
[08:43] <Node> Oh.
[08:43] <Node> Okay, I'll be back in a minute. Thanks Rory ActionParsnip
[08:44] <Rory> RockinRoel: Can you try: sudo apt-get install libgssapi3-heimdal:amd64
[08:44] <varunendra> excognac, if I weren't here, wilee-nilee would have taken you through it all, its part of fun here :D. You're most welcome.
[08:44] <RockinRoel> Rory: doesn't work, I still get the same error
[08:45] <FloodBot1> !netsplit
[08:45] <madsy> wilee-nilee: The old Gnome 3 fallback
[08:45] <Rory> RockinRoel: What are you trying to do, what's the end goal? Get Heimdall installed?
[08:45] <madsy> wilee-nilee: But I figured it out. Just press and hold ALT
[08:45] <RockinRoel> just do an upgrade, apparently the issue has been there a while, I do think we need it because it appears to be a dependency of libldap
[08:46] <Kazash> Whenever Iopen the terminal a voice says "terminal frame - terminal", which software causes this?
[08:46] <Kazash> also it says everything I do in the terminal
[08:46] <Rory> RockinRoel: If you don't care about Heimdall any more (its one of those apps you only need onece) - remove the heimdall PPA from your /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ directory and then do "sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get remove libgssapi3-heimdal"
[08:47] <Node> It worked. Thanks very much you both.
[08:47] <Node> :)
[08:47] <Rory> Good news, Node . Also read this information
[08:47] <Rory> !networkmanager | node
[08:47] <Node> Sure, thank you.
[08:47] <RockinRoel> Rory: libgssapi3-heimdal is a dependency of libldap-2.4-2, which we do use
[08:47] <wilee-nilee> madsy, Cool, it's nice when you figure it out yourself. ;)
[08:48] <Rory> RockinRoel: Woah that shouldn't be the case
[08:48] <Rory> !info libldap-2.4-2 precise
[08:49] <Kazash> Ehm this is really irritating, which process am I looking for here?
[08:49] <Kazash> I mean, it comments everything I do..
[08:49] <Rory> Kazash: Look in accessibility, it's probably Orca screen reader
[08:49] <Benkinooby> is it normal to have so many translation packages? http://paste.ubuntu.com/6174724/ i set my system to be located in germany (time, apt-mirrors) but want english as general system language
[08:49] <Benkinooby> but seeing Translation-en and Translation-en_US so often raises my interest
[08:49] <Benkinooby> would be Translation-en enough on its own?
[08:50] <Rory> RockinRoel: Can you post the output of "sudo apt-get remove libgssapi3-heimdal" - don't perform the remove just show me what would happen
[08:50] <Kazash> Rory: it was orca, thanks
[08:50] <RockinRoel> Rory: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6174739/
[08:51] <baby_born> #ubuntu-indonesia
[08:51] <DJones> !id | baby_born
[08:51] <baby_born> ia bang
[08:52] <baby_born> pngen bisa linux..
[08:52] <baby_born> :)
[08:52] <Rory> RockinRoel: Can you please post the output of: sudo apt-cache showpkg libgssapi3-heimdal
[08:55] <RockinRoel> Rory: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6174760/
[08:56] <Rory> RockinRoel: Can you please do the same for: "cat /etc/apt/sources.list /etc/apt/sources.list.d/*"
[08:56] <zorael> Rory: DDD was the ugliest thing I have ever laid eyes on :>
[08:56] <Rory> zorael: Yeah lol
[08:56] <Dentych> Ïs it correct that Ubuntu for Android is not yet available?
[08:56] <ActionParsnip> Benkinooby: you can install localepurge and select only the locale you need, saves a bit of space
[08:57] <ActionParsnip> Dentych: its available but only for a handful off handsets
[08:57] <Rory> Dentych: Sort of. Ubuntu and Android are both operating systems, so your question doesn't make sense, but if you mean Ubuntu for phones then you are correct
[08:57] <ActionParsnip> Dentych: ask in #ubuntu-mobile
[08:58] <Dentych> Rory: My question makes perfect sense. http://www.ubuntu.com/phone/ubuntu-for-android
[08:58] <RockinRoel> Rory: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6174776/
[08:58] <Rory> Dentych: Sorry I stand corrected
[08:58] <Dentych> ActionParsnip: I'll ask around in #ubuntu-mobile, thank you
[08:58] <Benkinooby> ActionParsnip: thank you
[08:58] <RockinRoel> the issue was there before the PPA was added, though, the new package in the PPA does not modify any dependencies
[08:58] <wilee-nilee> Dentych, #ubuntu-touch is an open channel
[08:58] <RockinRoel> just some code
[08:59] <Rory> RockinRoel: Are you on 64 bit?
[08:59] <RockinRoel> yes
[08:59] <RockinRoel> Rory: I'm thinking about checking if we need the multiarch stuff at all, and just ripping that out
[09:00] <Rory> RockinRoel: I doubt you do, but try: sudo dpkg --add-architecture i386 && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install ia32-libs
[09:00] <Rory> RockinRoel: Oh, run that apt-get install even if the apt-get update fails
[09:01] <Dentych> wilee-nilee: I was denied access to #ubuntu-mobile as it is apparently invite-only, and it forwarded me to #ubuntu-touch
[09:01] <RockinRoel> Rory: unknown option --add-architecture
[09:01] <ActionParsnip> Dentych: probably just need to be identified
[09:01] <RockinRoel> do you mean --foreign-architecture?
[09:02] <Rory> RockinRoel: What ubuntu version are you using?
[09:02] <Dentych> ActionParsnip: I am identified ;) It's invite-only, so I'm not getting in unless I get an invite :P
[09:02] <nick07> hello, does ubuntu server have a client login page?
[09:02] <reisio> nick07: a what?
[09:02] <RockinRoel> Rory: Ubuntu 12.04.3 LTS
[09:03] <RockinRoel> (64 bit)
[09:03] <RockinRoel> server
[09:03] <Rory> RockinRoel: Can you do "sudo apt-get install ia32-libs" anyway?
[09:03] <Rory> Server
[09:03] <nick07> a page where i can see all the settings from a client computer
[09:03] <Rory> RockinRoel: Ask in #ubuntu-server as well
[09:03] <reisio> nick07: which settings?
[09:04] <kostkon> Dentych, #ubuntu-mobile redirects to #ubuntu-touch for everyone
[09:04] <Rory> nick07: You're looking for a web-based configuration panel? There are many to choose from
[09:04] <Dentych> kostkon: Good, good..
[09:04] <RockinRoel> Rory: apt-get install ia32-libs just tells me about the unmet dependencies again
[09:05] <Rory> ActionParsnip: Do you know about multilib dependency problems? Can you help RockinRoel with http://paste.ubuntu.com/6174706
[09:05] <kostkon> Dentych, they just renamed the channel to #ubuntu-touch, that's why the redirect exists
[09:05] <Rory> RockinRoel: You could try uninstalling libgssapi3-heimdal:i386
[09:05] <nick07> like an admin page to to all the settings, like clearOS
[09:06] <Rory> nick07: There are a lot you can choose from http://askubuntu.com/questions/6529/is-there-a-tool-for-web-based-system-administration
[09:06] <nick07> let me check
[09:07] <Dentych> kostkon: That makes sense then. Thanks for the clarification :)
[09:07] <nick07> so if i understand correctly, it's not installed by default?
[09:07] <nick07> like after install i go to 192.168.1.xx and see a login page?
[09:07] <RockinRoel> Rory: I just ripped out all of the multiarch stuff, we really shouldn't need that anyway, it's working fine now
[09:07] <Rory> nick07: No, choose one to install (zentyal will probably be best) and then you can
[09:08] <RockinRoel> the amd64 upgrade worked now, so I could add the multiarch stuff again, I think
[09:08] <Rory> RockinRoel: Try it, do you need the multiarch stuff?
[09:08] <kostkon> Dentych, np
[09:08] <fudus> I like how the google earth 64 installer brings in ia32libs anyhow
[09:08] <nick07> do i install zentyal during install or do i need to install that manually afterwards?
[09:09] <fudus> what was the point of having a amd64bit build if you're going to depend on 32 anyhow?
[09:09] <Rory> !zentyal | nick07
[09:09] <RockinRoel> Rory: I can't think of a particular reason we should, so yeah, I just did that
[09:09] <Rory> nick07: install it with "sudo apt-get install zentyal"
[09:09] <RockinRoel> anyway, thanks for the help
[09:09] <Rory> np, glad you got it sorted
[09:10] <nick07> thx for helping
[09:11] <Rory> nick07: no problem, let me know if you have any issues installing or configuring it
[09:13] <Rory> nick07: I've used http://ajenti.org/ too
[09:13] <nick07> i will check it, thx
[09:15] <graingert> what do the +mac isos do?
[09:20] <reisio> graingert: work better on apple hardware, I'm guessing
[09:21] <graingert> reisio: I get that
[09:21] <graingert> but how?
[09:22] <Rory> graingert: http://askubuntu.com/questions/37999/what-is-different-about-the-mac-iso-image
[09:22] <graingert> Rory: why are there no 13.10 +mac builds?
[09:22] <Rory> graingert: There will be, I'm assuming
[09:23] <Rory> graingert: It's not out yet
[09:25] <it-guy> I'm creating a 64-bit architecture development environment on a 12.04 ubuntu server 64 bit system. I'm creating the environment to be architecture-independent, creating subtrees dependent for each architecture. I'm collecting the 64-bit header files now but am not sure which ones to use, and here's my question: in /usr/src there are subtrees for headers of different kernels. For each kernel there are two subtrees (e.g. linux-headers-3.2.0-32/ and
[09:25] <it-guy> linux-headers-3.2.0-32-generic/) I thought since 12.04 generic and non-generic have been merged. What is the difference here?
[09:27] <Biomechd> hey guys. it seems rhythmbox is having trouble importing a LOT of my music over a samba share via wlan.
[09:27] <Biomechd> i'm getting a lot of "timeout was reached" errors.
[09:28] <Biomechd> the only music i'm able to play is ONE album from ONE artist, plus whatever i have on this computer.
[09:29] <reisio> import?
[09:29] <ActionParsnip> Biomechd: try messing with the socket options in smb.conf on the server
[09:29] <Biomechd> well, the button is import, but what i'm trying to do specifically is stream music to my laptop from the wlan host computer.
[09:30] <reisio> doesn't seem like you'd want to import, then
[09:30] <reisio> rather tell rhythmbox that the files are where they are
[09:31] <Biomechd> ActionParsnip: where would i find that? like i said, i'm just trying to stream music from one computer to another via wlan because my laptop doesn't have much space on it.
[09:31] <ActionParsnip> Biomechd: on the server side:  sudo nano /etc/samba/smb.conf    or for a GUI edit:   gksudo gedit /etc/samba/smb.conf
[09:32] <Biomechd> reisio: so how would i go about telling rhythmbox that the songs are in multiple locations? the interface seems to want one specific all-containing folder.
[09:33] <Biomechd> (with subfolders for artists/albums, etc)
[09:35] <reisio> Biomechd: you could use
[09:35] <reisio> unionfs/et al. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UnionFS#Other_implementations
[09:35] <reisio> I think I'd probably just actually put them all in the same place, though
[09:35] <ActionParsnip> Biomechd: mount the samba share as a local folder, then add that to your library
[09:36] <Benkinooby> Biomechd: just a short: why not play it from the wlan host computer?
[09:37] <Benkinooby> *shot
[09:37] <Benkinooby> Biomechd: there are very nice interfaces, so that you can control your wlan-host remotely
[09:37] <Benkinooby> Biomechd: that way: no need to stream
[09:38] <Biomechd> Benkinooby: i could, i suppose. it's just easier for me to open up rhythmbox and tell it to start playing music.
[09:38] <Benkinooby> Biomechd: but if you want to stream, i support ActionParsnip suggestion
[09:38] <Benkinooby> Biomechd: uhm, i don't know exaclty the name, but a friend of mine had that for his home server. open the program, play music - nothing hackish
[09:39] <Benkinooby> Biomechd: but for him it made sense, because his home server had better audio ;)
[09:40] <Benkinooby> Biomechd: but there is pretty neat software for remote music playing, although i can not point out one directly. just can say that he did it with debian or ubuntu and that it was nice to use
[09:40] <ihre> I use mpd on a server, and ncmpcpp on clients to stream music
[09:40] <ihre> mpd is awesome
[09:41] <Biomechd> neither my laptop nor my host computer have the greatest speakers. i'd just rather have it coming from my laptop (directly in front of me) than coming from my host computer (a few feet away)
[09:41] <vijaya> there
[09:41] <vijaya> anyone
[09:41] <Biomechd> plus then i can also plug my earphones into my laptop while i'm doing other stuff.
[09:41] <ihre> Biomechd: http://www.linuxandlife.com/2012/01/simple-guide-to-set-up-mpd-with-ncmpcpp.html
[09:41] <Benkinooby> Biomechd: ok, in you case streaming is preferable
[09:42] <ActionParsnip> Biomechd: if you have installed openssh-server on the server side, you can mount SFTP in Nautilus then use that as well
[09:43] <Benkinooby> Biomechd: although your timeout errors make me a bit suspicios
[09:43] <Benkinooby> *suspicious
[09:43] <Benkinooby> that your streaming is too slow
[09:44] <ActionParsnip> Biomechd: changing settings in smb.conf can make the data flow smoother
[09:49] <malinus> I want to add the steam repo to apt-get, so I would just edit the etc/apt/soruces.list and add  "deb http://repo.steampowered.com/steam/" . Right? I know I can find "steam" in "ubuntu software center", but I'll rather not make a user, also I want to understand this.
[09:50] <Ben64> you'll rather not make a user? what does that mean
[09:51] <malinus> Ben64, I don't want to bother creating an account for ubuntu
[09:51] <Benkinooby> are these two lines in sources.list redundant?
[09:51] <Benkinooby> deb http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu quantal partner
[09:51] <Benkinooby> deb http://archive.canonical.com/ quantal partner
[09:52] <Benkinooby> or is the second a mistake and should be deleted?
[09:52] <Ben64> malinus: you don't need an account to use the software center
[09:53] <malinus> Ben64, it asks me for an account when I try to  download steam. Nerveless, is there an easier way to add steam to the repositories that are being used by apt-get?
[09:53] <Ben64> download the deb from steam and install it
[09:54] <illusion> hi
[09:54] <malinus> Ben64, will that still result in adding it into the "recently installed packages", and can it later be removed by apt-get remove?
[09:55] <illusion> how can i rename multiple mp4 file to something like this : 01.mp4 , 02.mp4, 03.mp4 etc...
[09:56] <reisio> illusion: using ordinary Ubuntu?
[09:56] <illusion> server
[09:56] <illusion> i need command line
[09:56] <illusion> reisio,
[09:56] <reisio> illusion: based on the order of 'ls'?
[09:56] <illusion> yes
[09:56] <reisio> illusion: that is, no particular order
[09:56] <somsip> illusion: here is a starting point http://stackoverflow.com/questions/3211595/renaming-files-in-a-folder-to-sequential-numbers
[09:58] <illusion> somsip, thanks thats wat i m looking for
[09:59] <somsip> illusion: np
[10:01] <Benkinooby> is this a valid sources.lsit entry? deb http://archive.canonical.com/ quantal partner
[10:01] <Myrtti> quick look I'd say yes
[10:02] <Benkinooby> Myrtti: becasue i have that line too deb http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu quantal partner
[10:02] <Benkinooby> Myrtti: note the ubuntu
[10:03] <Biomechd> so i have a bit of an issue. i moved ALL my music to one folder, told rhythmbox where to find it in the samba share, but i'm still getting "import errors" -- all saying "timeout was reached"
[10:04] <somsip> Biomechd: what user is rhythmbox running as, and do they have samba access?
[10:05] <Biomechd> somsip: pretty sure it's running as administrator on both my laptop and desktop.
[10:05] <Biomechd> that is, the program itself is on my laptop, accessing files on my desktop.
[10:06] <somsip> Biomechd: do you start rhythmbox or is it running as a service? Can you, as a user, connect to the samba share on the desktop ok?
[10:07] <Biomechd> somsip: i start rhythmbox manually, either by opening the program, or telling a file to open in it.
[10:07] <somsip> Biomechd: and can you connect to samba ok?
[10:07] <Biomechd> and yes, i can access files on the desktop (running windows 7) through the wlan just fine.
[10:07] <wblledy> Myrtti: sorry, its me Benkinooby. says my nick is already in use. unstable itnernet :/ didn't get your answer.
[10:08] <Rory> wblledy: /msg nickserv ghost Benkinooby
[10:09] <Benkinooby> Rory: thy
[10:09] <somsip> Biomechd: I know nothing about rhythmbox so I'm out.
[10:09] <Myrtti> Benkinooby: yeah I didn't answer anything
[10:10] <Benkinooby> ah ok :) - wasn't sure.
[10:10] <Benkinooby> Myrtti: can you paste me your sources.list so that i can check?
[10:10] <Biomechd> out of curiosity, is samba local-only? or could i access files on my desktop from, say, the other side of the planet via samba?
[10:10] <Benkinooby> Biomechd: if you have a global IP it will work
[10:11] <Ben64> malinus: sorry, didn't see your reply. it installs steam and gets the repository working too
[10:11] <somsip> Biomechd: it's all about exposing samba externally, which is a reasonably unsafe thing to do
[10:11] <Myrtti> Benkinooby: well since I'm on Debian, no.
[10:11] <Benkinooby> ok
[10:11] <Rory> Biomechd: You'd be better off tunneling it through SSH and configuring Samba for local network access only
[10:11] <Benkinooby> Biomechd: or, you can do sshfs
[10:12] <Benkinooby> Biomechd: wich will mount folders over ssh
[10:12] <malinus> Ben64, no worries. Thanks.
[10:13] <Benkinooby> Myrtti: ok, mi first line was garbage - probly copy/paste error
[10:15] <illusion> i have list of mp4 file in a directory, i want to make a playlist as xml
[10:15] <illusion> example : /root/file1.mp4
[10:15] <illusion> i whant to be :
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[10:16] <illusion> somsip,
[10:17] <somsip> illusion: I'm not doing your google searches for you again. I'm happy to help once, but put a bit of effort in yourself, eh?
[10:17] <illusion> sorry i have a very poor english and i m new
[10:17] <illusion> somsip,
[10:18] <sakshi> How do I install a Dave C like compiler on Ubuntu 12.04?
[10:19] <reisio> sakshi: dave c?
[10:20] <sakshi> reisio: yes
[10:20] <reisio> what is dave c
[10:20] <sakshi> dev c
[10:20] <reisio> bloodshed devc++?
[10:21] <sakshi> yes dev c++ reisio
[10:21] <reisio> sakshi: do you want an IDE, or a compiler?
[10:22] <sakshi> reisio: IDE
[10:23] <reisio> sakshi: for ordinary Ubuntu with Unity/GNOME ?
[10:24] <sakshi> reisio: Not sure. I need to run the small programs of Computer Graphics. Whatever is the best.
[10:25] <bl3ch> i m trying to mount smb share with pcmanfm , i have added it to fstab and it works
[10:25] <bl3ch> but i want it to ask sudo password before mount
[10:27] <reisio> sakshi: you're using Konversation, so I'm going to assume KDE
[10:27] <reisio> sakshi: try kdevelop
[10:27] <sakshi> reisio: Ok.
[10:28] <bl3ch> any one know how what option to ask fstab entry to ask for sudo password
[10:28] <bl3ch> before mount
[10:28] <auronandace> bl3ch: you put stuff in fstab to automatically mount on boot
[10:30] <bl3ch> auronandace: i am doing noauto mount
[10:31] <bl3ch> my intention is to mount through pcmanfm but ask for sudo password, as it is the case when mounting windows parition
[10:32] <bl3ch> with user option in fstab it working
[10:32] <bl3ch> but i dont get prompted for sudo password
[10:32] <zhee_sharp> Hi friends, can  we use no-ip free dns service using CDMA modem (PPP) ... ? if we can use it, can you tell me how to configure it? I've installed NoIP DUC, but it cannot pointed to my computer, both using local ip or remote IP given by my provider (CDMA provider). Thanks ...
[10:33] <sakshi> reisio: What about a Turbo C++ Compiler on Ubuntu 12.04?
[10:33] <ActionParsnip> bl3ch: did you add the 'user' option to the fstab entry?
[10:33] <reisio> sakshi: don't need it, we've got gcc
[10:34] <sakshi> reisio: ok. Thanks.
[10:36] <bl3ch> ActionParsnip: yes, but it gets mount without asking for sudo password
[10:36] <ActionParsnip> bl3ch: that's what that option does
[10:36] <bl3ch> ActionParsnip: how can i make it ask for sudo pasword then
[10:37] <ActionParsnip> bl3ch: remove the user option, then only root and sudo users will be able to mount it
[10:38] <bl3ch> ActionParsnip: tried that too, but pcmanfm is saying "only administrator have the permission to do this" and doesn't prompt for password
[10:38] <bl3ch> ActionParsnip: it is smbshare
[10:40] <ActionParsnip> bl3ch: then to mount it run:  sudo mount /mount/point    and it will mount.
[10:40] <ActionParsnip> bl3ch: are you using this as a security measure?
[10:40] <bl3ch> ActionParsnip: yes
[10:41] <ActionParsnip> bl3ch: gotcha
[10:41] <bl3ch> ActionParsnip: i any one to mount it, unless they know my sudoer password
[10:41] <ActionParsnip> bl3ch: you could add it as a bookmark but tell the keyrng to not remember the pass
[10:42] <ActionParsnip> bl3ch: or even easier, give each user it's own account]
[10:42] <bl3ch> ActionParsnip: dont that will be from cli, i want it from pcmanfm
[10:42] <ActionParsnip> bl3ch: not sure how, maybe the guys in #lubuntu will know a thing or 3
[10:42] <bl3ch> ActionParsnip: thanks a bunch :D
[10:44] <ArielX> hello all
[10:45] <ArielX> I install hostapd and working well. I am using ppp0 but not I wanted to use my wireless and found out that my PC wireless doesnt find any other connection available
[10:46] <ArielX> SCARED..... what do I do so I can use my pc WiFi to connect to my wireless browser(router) etc
[10:47] <ActionParsnip> ArielX: what is the output of:  cat /etc/issue     on the system without web access?
[10:48] <Benkinooby> hi, do i have to install language-pack-de to set german locales?
[10:48] <ArielX> hold checking
[10:48] <PrideAndSorrow> the ubuntu installation process is  misleading
[10:49] <ArielX> gz@Bd:~$ cat /etc/issue
[10:49] <ArielX> Ubuntu 12.04.3 LTS \n \l
[10:49] <ArielX> with web access
[10:50] <ActionParsnip> PrideAndSorrow: how?
[10:50] <ActionParsnip> ArielX: ok and withou?
[10:50] <ActionParsnip> ArielX: ok and without?
[10:52] <PrideAndSorrow> ActionParsnip, i chose insall ubuntu in place of windows,but then it was installed in a different partition  leaving windows as it is
[10:52] <ActionParsnip> PrideAndSorrow: so you want Ubuntu as the only OS?
[10:53] <PrideAndSorrow> ActionParsnip,  that's not the point, i wanted t keep the partition  where it was installed untouched
[10:54] <bosnjak> hi all
[10:54] <ActionParsnip> PrideAndSorrow: what version of Windows are you running?
[10:54] <bosnjak> to share my wireless connection over ethernet, do i need a crossover cable or a regular patch cable?
[10:54] <PrideAndSorrow> pirated windows 7 ultimate
[10:54] <ActionParsnip> bosnjak: if yu are connecting direct from PC to PC then you will need a crossover
[10:54] <ArielX_> ActionParsnip it's the same thing with web access ot not
[10:55] <ActionParsnip> PrideAndSorrow: if you resize your NTFS using Windows, you can install to the freed space
[10:55] <bosnjak> ActionParsnip: i see. thank you
[10:55] <ActionParsnip> ArielX_: any P2P connection will use crossover
[10:55] <ActionParsnip> ArielX_: what is the output of the command on the system with no web access please?
[10:56] <ArielX_> ActionParsnip sorry dont understand the gramma you issued me. seems to high fior my understanding. break it down.. sorry and thanks
[10:56] <OerHeks> PrideAndSorrow, you choose to replace windows, it didn't and installed side by side, and you want to keep the windows partition untouched as it is now?
[10:56] <ArielX_> Ubuntu 12.04.3 LTS \n \l
[10:56] <ActionParsnip> ArielX_: ok and if you run:  sudo iwlist scan    do you see wireless networks?
[10:56] <PrideAndSorrow> ActionParsnip,  too late now,i allready lost all files in /sdb3
[10:56] <ActionParsnip> PrideAndSorrow: restore from backup
[10:58] <InFlames> can anyone point me to a list of hibernation-compatible hardware?
[10:58] <ArielX_> bz@BENZINO:~$ sudo iwlist
[10:58] <ArielX_> Usage: iwlist [interface] scanning [essid NNN] [last]
[10:58] <ArielX_>               [interface] frequency
[10:58] <ArielX_>               [interface] channel
[10:58] <ArielX_>               [interface] bitrate
[10:58] <ArielX_>               [interface] rate
[10:58] <FloodBot1> ArielX_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:59] <bullicon> how do I check if MultiArch is enabled?
[10:59] <ActionParsnip> ArielX_: read the command I gave, then the one you ran.....
[10:59] <bullicon> using Ubuntu 12.04
[10:59] <ActionParsnip> bullicon: its default
[10:59] <bullicon> ActionParsnip: thanks
[10:59] <InFlames> !gist
[10:59] <ActionParsnip> bullicon: same as it is in Windows :)
[10:59] <InFlames> what's the command for the gist help?
[11:00] <bullicon> never knew :)
[11:00] <InFlames> on the bot
[11:00] <ActionParsnip> ArielX_: what wifi chip does the system use?
[11:00] <reisio> !paste
[11:00] <bullicon> so is there an average i/o ps one can check for io issues
[11:00] <ActionParsnip> !brain | InFlames
[11:00] <bullicon> on another note
[11:00] <ArielX_> I dont understand your question
[11:01] <InFlames> I knew ActionParsnip would come to the rescue!
[11:01] <ArielX_>  ActionParsnip .. I dont understand your question
[11:01] <ActionParsnip> ArielX_: your wifi controller has a chip which processes the wifi signal
[11:02] <ActionParsnip> ArielX_: it is what you need drivers for to make the wifi work.
[11:02] <ActionParsnip> ArielX_: what is the wireless chip your system uses?
[11:02] <ActionParsnip> ArielX_: if you are unsure then:   sudo lshw -C network     will tell you
[11:02] <malinus> So I've installed wine by running apt-get install wine. Then I checked the --version, and it said 1.4.1, next I checked their website, and it told me that the newest stable version is 1.6
[11:03] <malinus> I've both update and upgraded apt-get, didn't really help
[11:03] <reisio> malinus: what's the problem?
[11:03] <ActionParsnip> malinus: what version of wine does the application you are intending to run work under?
[11:03] <malinus> reisio, that the apt-get installs an outdated version?
[11:03] <OerHeks> !info wine saucy
[11:03] <reisio> malinus: it's not outdated
[11:04] <malinus> I figured 1.4 is older then 1.6?
[11:04] <reisio> yup
[11:04] <malinus> so it's outdated - there is a newer version
[11:04] <reisio> making sure upstream didn't go insane, making binaries, this all takes time
[11:04] <reisio> it's trickle down
[11:04] <bullicon> always paranoid of packages installing libs when I run apt-get
[11:04] <reisio> and since you have no particular need for 1.6 over 1.4, it isn't a problem
[11:05] <popolon> hi
[11:05] <bullicon> how does Ubuntu take care of dependency clashes
[11:05] <popolon> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/intel-microcode/+bug/1194370
[11:05] <malinus> No idea what that means, I just assume I want the newest version of all software, obviously. Because that's the idea behind updating software?
[11:05] <ActionParsnip> ArielX_: use a pastebin, not only does it not scroll chats like crazy, but other users can see the output too and not just me
[11:05] <popolon> nobody has looked at this bug ?
[11:05] <reisio> malinus: yup
[11:05] <reisio> malinus: and 1.4 is the newest version easily available
[11:05] <ArielX_> how do I use the pastebin
[11:05] <bullicon> what if package x requires lib1.0 and package y requires lib0.9 -> does lib gets upgraded when I install pakcage x thus breaking packae y ?
[11:06] <k1l> bullicon: the maintainer does. but that does only count for origninal ubuntu packages, not PPAs or other 3rd party packages
[11:06] <malinus> reisio, with your logic, I might as well have installed ubuntu 10.00, because there isn't anything specific I want from 13.04
[11:06] <InFlames> ActionParsnip, wasn't there a bot response about http://gist.github.com?
[11:06] <reisio> malinus: nah
[11:06] <popolon> it make this package useless, as it doesn't work at all :/
[11:06] <reisio> malinus: my logic is don't find problems where there aren't any
[11:06] <reisio> not "use old things"
[11:06] <bullicon> k1l: so 3rd party packages could break my packages?
[11:06] <bullicon> or my ubuntu packages?
[11:06] <OerHeks> popolon, intel-microcode and amd-micocode do exist, intel_microcode does not.
[11:06] <ActionParsnip> InFlames: not sure, you can add one if you want
[11:06] <k1l> bullicon: yes
[11:07] <OerHeks> popolon, check softwarecenter for the exact programname
[11:07] <k1l> bullicon: that is one of the risks of using 3rd party packages
[11:07] <malinus> reisio, I guess it just triggers my autism, but I just can't understand why in the world I would use older version of a software, when never *stable* version is available.
[11:07] <malinus> *newer
[11:07] <popolon> OerHeks, yes
[11:07] <popolon> that's the package intel-microcode
[11:07] <reisio> malinus: well upstream has its own definition of stable
[11:07] <reisio> which is usually not particularly stable
[11:08] <popolon> but the command line (in console : usr/share/initramfs-tools/hooks/intel_microcode: 136: /usr/share/initramfs-tools/hooks/intel_microcode: prepend_earlyinitramfs: not found)
[11:08] <reisio> malinus: they only compare the stability of Wine by itself
[11:08] <reisio> malinus: a distro has to make sure it works with every, other, package
[11:08] <OerHeks> popolon, so what package asks intel_microcode, as it is a typo-bug
[11:08] <reisio> malinus: different goals, different definitions of stable
[11:09] <malinus> reisio, sorry I still don't know what upstream is. But I think I get the idea. I use older version of wine, because the newer one, hasn't been checked with all the other packages yet?
[11:09] <reisio> malinus: upstream in this case is Wine, the Wine developers
[11:09] <popolon> that's at the time of a kernel update
[11:09] <reisio> Wine is stable to them when it does what they want on their particular boxes
[11:09] <ActionParsnip> malinus: what version of wine is the application you want to run, known to run well in?
[11:09] <popolon> Package: intel-microcode 1.20130222.3 (in the bug report)
[11:09] <reisio> Wine is stable to Ubuntu when it does what all Ubuntu users in all situations using Wine for all types of things can reasonably expect it to do things correctly
[11:10] <ActionParsnip> popolon: what is the output of:  cat /etc/issue
[11:10] <malinus> reisio, so are ubuntu devs or wine devs responsible of deciding that?
[11:11] <reisio> malinus: but even outside of that there'd be a lag, between Wine developers (upstream) saying "okay, 1.6!" and Ubuntu people auditing all the changes, re-applying all their custom packages to make things correct on their end, and building binaries, and making them available
[11:11] <ActionParsnip> malinus: you do realise that wine doesn't work like that?
[11:11] <reisio> malinus: Ubuntu guys decide what goes into the repos, and when
[11:11] <popolon> ActionParsnip, Ubuntu Saucy Salamander (development branch) \n \l
[11:11] <malinus> ActionParsnip, I haven't checked yet, sorry, I'll be back in a minute. I just expected I wanted the newest version of all software.
[11:11] <malinus> ActionParsnip, and no, I haven't used wine yet.
[11:11] <ActionParsnip> popolon: your support is not in here then. It is in #ubuntu+1 til release day
[11:11] <OerHeks> popolon, i read the bugreport, they talk about initramfs-tools but i see a typo bug.
[11:11] <reisio> malinus: but it's like that for a great many packages
[11:11] <ActionParsnip> malinus: later is not better in wine
[11:11] <popolon> ActionParsnip, thanks
[11:11] <reisio> some are simpler than others, some are more reliably coded, but plenty aren't
[11:12] <ActionParsnip> malinus: you need to check which version of wine the application you want to run works in
[11:12] <popolon> OerHeks, ok, thanks
[11:12] <malinus> ActionParsnip, got it, thanks
[11:12] <ActionParsnip> malinus: some will work better in 1.4 than 1.6, then pushing for the latest is bogue
[11:12] <reisio> it's "better", but not necessarily so for any particular situation :p
[11:12] <ActionParsnip> malinus: some will work better in 1.4 than 1.6, then pushing for the latest is bogus
[11:12] <reisio> Wine is a real fast moving target, yeah
[11:12] <ActionParsnip> malinus: hence me asking, did you even check the wine appdb?
[11:12] <popolon> OerHeks, yes, need an initramfs update, but this could break lot of things...
[11:12] <reisio> I think he just wanted to use the latest in general, and didn't encounter an actual problem :D
[11:13] <bullicon> k1l: is there anyway I can dry run apt-get?
[11:13] <malinus> ActionParsnip, it works better with 1.6 then with my current installed 1.4 apparently.
[11:13] <bullicon> and then see what packages rely on what libs will be overridden?
[11:14] <ActionParsnip> malinus: there is a wine ppa which you can add
[11:14] <k1l> bullicon: yes, there is a option for that. i dont know its out of my mind but the manpage will tell (man apt-get)
[11:14] <ActionParsnip> malinus: may want to ask in #winehq too
[11:17] <luox> %s
[11:23] <bullicon> k1l: cool thanks
[11:25] <varunendra> bullicon, to see dependencies and recommendations you can also use "apt-cache show <package>" which I think is quicker
[11:26] <c0lumb> How do I remove bash prefix? username@computername?
[11:26] <Fruity> hey
[11:28] <bullicon> varunendra: thanks, also found apt-cache check, from man
[11:28] <bullicon> varunendra: Ideally, I would like to see dep clashes as well
[11:29] <ArielX_> ActionParsnip, what do you want me to do now? Show I remove all this in the file interfaces now
[11:29] <ArielX_> auto wlan0
[11:29] <ArielX_> iface wlan0 inet static
[11:29] <ArielX_> address 10.10.0.1
[11:29] <ArielX_> netmask 255.255.255.0
[11:29] <FloodBot1> ArielX_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:29] <Fruity> i want to dual boot my windows pc with ubuntu and so i downloaded ubuntu and am supposed to burn it to a CD. i'm just wondering if i should extract files with WinZip before burning it to the cd or not?
[11:29] <ArielX_> and input only auto lo       iface lo inet loopback
[11:29] <k1l> ArielX_: you got already muted last time. please use a pastbin service for showng alot of text in here
[11:29] <k1l> !paste | ArielX_
[11:30] <ikonia> !install |Fruity
[11:30] <ArielX_> !paste
[11:30] <UrielVigilante> Good afternoon, I am installing the onlive gaming with wine but I get a response saying that lacks the GUI. what to do?
[11:30] <UrielVigilante> !gui
[11:31] <ArielX_> !paste | ArielX_
[11:31] <ikonia> UrielVigilante try #winehq for wine help
[11:31] <UrielVigilante> thanks
[11:35] <bullicon> are there tools out there to measure my IO over time?
[11:36] <ikonia> iostat, sar, ?
[11:36] <herbert__> I have an ubuntu system running with kernel 3.2.0, is there eSATA port multiplying or do I have to load a special module for that?
[11:36] <bullicon> got iostat, what are the metric to watchout for?
[11:36] <bullicon> ikonia: ?
[11:36] <ikonia> bullicon: what do you mean ?
[11:38] <UrielVigilante> ikonia: none answear me there.
[11:38] <bullicon> ikonia: http://pastebin.com/Pg3q4eyk
[11:38] <bullicon> ikonia: I get there, but not sure if its high or low for my capacity ?
[11:40] <bullicon> that*
[11:40] <ikonia> UrielVigilante: UrielVigilantewait for a response there then
[11:40] <ikonia> bullicon are you actually having a problem ?
[11:42] <bullicon> ikonia: well yeah, got some notification for high io backlog
[11:42] <bullicon> and tbh don't know what that mean
[11:42] <bullicon> im a dev slowly getting into sysadmin things.
[11:44] <bullicon> is 5.2% iowait high?
[11:45] <ikonia> bullicon: what is the problem you are actually seeing ?
[11:46] <wzin_> bullicon: 5.2% if constant, may be a sign of non healthy system
[11:46] <wzin_> but is generally not considered "high"
[11:47] <bullicon> ikonia: I really don't see any problem, but I get high traffic at weekends
[11:47] <bullicon> ikonia: trying to be proactive as marketing dept is planning more campaigns
[11:47] <ikonia> bullicon right - so if you have no problms why are you using tools you don't understand to look for problems
[11:47] <ViperaBerus> bullicon: Where do you see that message? Some log? What program gives it to you?
[11:49] <bullicon> ikonia: cos I don't I want to understand them just in case
[11:50] <ikonia> bullicon yes, but you are looking for a problem that doesn't exist at this time
[11:50] <bullicon> ViperaBerus: some api to monitor aws instances my boss installed, and just forwarded the notification to me
[11:50] <ikonia> bullicon: how do you expect to find something that doesn't exist,
[11:50] <bullicon> ikonia: true
[11:50] <bullicon> ikonia: actually, I want to plan for it
[11:50] <bullicon> so want to understand the metric for a start
[11:50] <ikonia> bullicon: yes, but you do'nt know anything about what you currently have, where thats generated, what is coming, how that will impact it
[11:51] <bullicon> ikonia: true, but I hope to find out
[11:51] <ViperaBerus> All you've told is, that you get some "high io backlog" message from "some API". How do you expect us to help in any way with that vague a description?
[11:51] <ikonia> bullicon are you are shooting blind
[11:51] <bullicon> ikonia: I agree
[11:52] <bullicon> ikonia: ok whats the first step to measure these things
[11:52] <bullicon> ViperaBerus: like store io or cpu usage over time
[11:52] <ikonia> bullicon first step ? this is not how you approach it
[11:53] <bullicon> ikonia: how do I approach it please?
[11:53] <ViperaBerus> First step would be figuring out what you actually want. IO covers way too much to simply monitor it all
[11:53] <ikonia> bullicon you have an idea of how your system works - or a problem to follow
[11:54] <ikonia> bullicat the moment you appear to have neither
[11:54] <bullicon> hmm
[11:54] <bullicon> unfortunatly, I am under pressure to solve a problem that doesnt exist
[11:54] <bullicon> the API has sent a notification of high io backlog
[11:55] <bullicon> I sshed on server and things looks quite fine.
[11:55] <ViperaBerus> Then start by telling what API that is, and what the exact message is. That would at least give us a hint about what is happening
[11:55] <ViperaBerus> Be specific ;)
[11:55] <ikonia> bullicon what API ?
[11:55] <ikonia> bullicon: from what application ?
[11:55] <bullicon> ViperaBerus: finally.io ?
[11:55]  * bullicon digs email
[11:56] <bullicon> High I/O backlog (5.16578666667 queued I/O requests)
[11:56] <ikonia> bullicon: where are you seeing that
[11:58] <bullicon> ikonia: from an email finally.io sent
[11:58] <ikonia> bullicon right - so that could be simpley configured wonr
[11:58] <ikonia> wrong
[11:59] <ikonia> bullicon: you need to look at what even would trigger that
[11:59] <bullicon> ikonia: how do I get that?
[11:59] <ikonia> bullicon: see, this is the "blind bit"
[11:59] <ikonia> you are following blind information that you have no idea what it means
[11:59] <ikonia> bullicon who setup finally.io
[11:59] <ikonia> (whatever finally.io is)
[12:00] <bullicon> ikonia: I know :)
[12:00] <bullicon> but sometimes, you do what your boss wants ?
[12:00] <ikonia> bullicon: not if it's stupid
[12:00] <bullicon> he sets it up, and has mandated I solve the problem
[12:00] <ikonia> bullicon: who set it up ?
[12:00] <bullicon> my boss
[12:00] <bullicon> i think you just enter your aws cred and thats it
[12:01] <bullicon> and it monitors your infrastructure
[12:01] <ikonia> bullicon right, so you talk to him and ask him for the rules/policy/triggers for finally.io
[12:01] <ikonia> bullicon: once you know what triggers it, you can then move forward
[12:01] <bullicon> ikonia: he doesnt understand all that
[12:01] <bullicon> i will look into finally.io and find out
[12:01] <ikonia> bullicon: then he has probably not done a good job setting up the applicaiton
[12:02] <ikonia> bullicon: someone who doesn't understand enough to tell you the rules - will have done a very poor job in setting it up
[12:02] <ikonia> bullicon: therefore you cannot treat that as a problem to be solved
[12:02] <bullicon> ikonia: absolutely, he is my boss :)
[12:02] <bullicon> ikonia: I get you
[12:02] <ikonia> bullicon it doesn't matter that he's your boss
[12:03] <bullicon> finally.io has no settings whatso ever
[12:03] <bullicon> on that fine-grained level
[12:03] <ikonia> bullicon: so a.) why ar eyou using it b.) why are you chasing a problem it generates when you can't set what it monitors
[12:04] <ikonia> bullicon: this just sounds like a shambles
[12:04] <Ubuntu-user2060> Does anyone know how you can change your desktop background with a nice transition. I want it to be changed from a bash script with an effect (slow fade, ...) because the standard transition is not what i want.
[12:04] <dman777>  /window close
[12:04] <bullicon> ikonia: right
[12:04] <ikonia> bullicon: I would stop using an applicaiton you can't configure, stop trying to chase a problem that probably doesn't exist
[12:05] <bullicon> ikonia: what monitoring software will you recommend ?
[12:05] <ikonia> bullicon: focus on setting up a monitoring application that does work and people know how to configure, then take a benchmark then move forward
[12:05] <ikonia> bullicon the UCL probably has a set of approved tools with people who know how to configure/manage them, talk to your IT dep
[12:07] <bullicon> ikonia: :) ok
[12:07] <bullicon> i am just visiting, I don't study at UCL :)
[12:10] <LongCatTH> Hey, anti-centoslian
[12:11] <LongCatTH> I wonder if I didn't login to my ubuntu server, it's tty with "hostname login: " prompt, how I can shutdown properly?
[12:12] <LongCatTH> without login and sudo halt
[12:12] <LongCatTH> I lazy to login, just want to halt up
[12:16] <HypnotiX> I am having huge problems with my ubuntu, i just rebooted the pc and it seems that my display drivers are missing
[12:18] <z302> HypnotiX, are you using proprietary drivers?
[12:18] <z302> do you have Nvidia\AMD?
[12:19] <HypnotiX> i have nvidia and no i didnt use proprietary drivers
[12:19] <HypnotiX> im on a laptop btw
[12:19] <z302> HypnotiX, so you want to stay with nouveau or want to install nvidia binaries?
[12:19] <ArielX_> A big thanks to ActionParsni
[12:19] <ArielX_> A big thanks to ActionParsnip
[12:19] <HypnotiX> i want to use the graphic card to its fullest capabilities :)
[12:19] <HypnotiX> but not have graphical errors
[12:20] <yenal> hi can someone help me how to determ if a window of an application exists with xdotool ?
[12:20] <HypnotiX> right now i cant select a resolution higher then 1024
[12:20] <z302> HypnotiX, try opening a terminal and typing sudo apt-get install --reinstall nvidia-glx nvidia-kernel-dkms nvidia-settings nvidia-xconfig and then reboot
[12:20] <ActionParsnip> HypnotiX: if you run:   sudo lshw -C display     do you see an Intel GPU too?
[12:21] <HypnotiX> yes ActionParsnip
[12:21] <ActionParsnip> z302: might be an Optimus setup
[12:21] <ActionParsnip> HypnotiX: look into bumblebee
[12:21] <ActionParsnip> z302: see
[12:21] <z302> ActionParsnip, you are right, tnx for pointing it out
[12:22] <HypnotiX> so i should install bumble bee ?
[12:22] <ActionParsnip> HypnotiX: yes you need it to support the mess that is Optimus
[12:23] <HypnotiX> ah but i need to run VM also
[12:23] <ActionParsnip> HypnotiX: i suggest you resolve one issue at a time
[12:23] <ActionParsnip> HypnotiX: get the host sorted then worry about VMing
[12:24] <HypnotiX> well i really need it for my work
[12:24] <HypnotiX> have to run photoshop also so yeah
[12:24] <ActionParsnip> HypnotiX: then install the VM software but you may find the display cramped
[12:24] <ActionParsnip> HypnotiX: photoshop may run in Wine, or use Gimp
[12:24] <HypnotiX> gimp doesnt display the psd files i receive correctly
[12:25] <ActionParsnip> HypnotiX: i see
[12:25] <machinarius> Hey people, anyone with knowledge about mono here? Why won't mono load an assembly unless it's run as root (Running the xsp4 script as root works but not as a normal user)
[12:25] <HypnotiX> this display drivers was fine until today
[12:25] <HypnotiX> and i have been using this setup for two weeks now
[12:25] <ActionParsnip> HypnotiX: tried an older kernel?
[12:25] <HypnotiX> no
[12:25] <HypnotiX> im on 13.04
[12:28] <yenal> is there any output of xdotool if the window I want to activate with "xdotool search --desktop 0 --sync --any --class "firefox" windowactivate" doesnt exist?
[12:29] <HypnotiX> well i installed bumblebee ill reboot and see what happens :)
[12:31] <Aquaword> hi, any idea how to access laptop localhost (ubuntu) with a tablet, trough wifi?
[12:32] <ActionParsnip> Aquaword: how do you mean 'access'?
[12:32] <Aquaword> view it in a browser
[12:32] <HypnotiX> right so still my max resolution is 1024
[12:32] <ActionParsnip> Aquaword: if you can ping it, you are 'accessing' it
[12:32] <ActionParsnip> Aquaword: to do what? what is the pupose of the access?
[12:32] <Aquaword> i need to test responsive site design
[12:32] <Aquaword> on a real tablet device
[12:33] <ActionParsnip> Aquaword: then type it's IP in the browser and it will connect to the apache service
[12:33] <Aquaword> it's ?
[12:33] <ActionParsnip> Aquaword: that's not a question
[12:33] <HypnotiX> so ActionParsnip any other ideas?
[12:34] <ActionParsnip> HypnotiX: that's all I know. I am avoiding Optimus as much as I can, I think its a cheap hack and should be scrapped
[12:34] <HypnotiX> so how can i get my old driver to work again
[12:35] <ActionParsnip> HypnotiX: hold SHIFT at boot, select an older kernel
[12:36] <HypnotiX> !nvidia
[12:37] <ActionParsnip> HypnotiX: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bumblebee
[12:37] <HypnotiX> i just installed that and nothing
[12:37] <HypnotiX> i still cant select my normal resolution
[12:37] <ActionParsnip> does the system have a make and model?
[12:37] <Aquaword> ActionParsnip, apache ip is 127.0.1.1 for me, but mobile chrome gives "could not connect to... "
[12:37] <ActionParsnip> HypnotiX: did you search for that with respect to installing Ubuntu on it?
[12:37] <HypnotiX> yes Lenovo b590
[12:38] <ActionParsnip> Aquaword: well yeah, because that is on the server. THINNK about what 127.0.1.1 actually is.
[12:38] <ActionParsnip> Aquaword: how will that possibly work on a remote system?
[12:38] <ActionParsnip> HypnotiX: are there any ubuntu guides for a Lenovo B590
[12:38] <HypnotiX> no
[12:38] <Ben64> Aquaword: do you plan to host that website yourself?
[12:38] <Aquaword> right..
[12:39] <Aquaword> Ben64, its only a test at home
[12:39] <ActionParsnip> Aquaword: 127.0.0.0/8 is how a computer talks to ITSELF, so will not work on an external system
[12:39] <HypnotiX> actually there is ActionParsnip
[12:39] <HypnotiX> The Lenovo B590 laptop has been awarded the status of Certified for Ubuntu
[12:39] <Ben64> Aquaword: i know, but i mean in the future
[12:39] <Aquaword> of course it will published
[12:39] <Aquaword> +be
[12:39] <HypnotiX> but there isnt a guide for it
[12:40] <ActionParsnip> HypnotiX: then why are you asking when ou have clearly just asked and not done any searching online regarding this?
[12:40] <Ben64> Aquaword: well you should learn a lot more about apache and networking in general before that happens
[12:40] <HypnotiX> i had no problems with it until today, the driver just stopped working for no reason
[12:40] <ActionParsnip> Aquaword: so you need the IP address of the PC that it uses on the network, probably 192.168.0.0/24    127.0.0.0/8 will ONLY work on the PC the web service is running on
[12:40] <Aquaword> yes
[12:41] <ActionParsnip> Aquaword: so why did you use 127.0.1.1 on the tablet?
[12:41] <Aquaword> it was a bad idea
[12:41] <ActionParsnip> Aquaword: when 127.0.1.1 ill only access the local system?
[12:42] <ActionParsnip> Aquaword: think....a little
[12:42] <ViperaBerus> Aquaword: Try "ifconfig -a" - Somewhere in that output, you should have the IP address (inet addr)
[12:42] <xwalk> I'm running into a problem with Ubuntu 12.04.3 where the Unity interface will not load properly after authenticating at the login screen. The default Ubuntu desktop background is all the shows, which is not the background that is showing at the lightdm login screen. Using the "unity --reset" command yielded no results. plz halp
[12:42] <Aquaword> ViperaBerus, tried already, browser continue loading..
[12:43] <ViperaBerus> Aquaword: You did? And found 127.0.1.1 under eth0?
[12:43] <ihre> Aquaword: obviously you're not running a webserver on your tablet.. Your webserver is located on your PC, which has an IP like 192.168.1.2 or something like that. Enter the IP of your PC in the browser of your tablet and you're done ..
[12:43] <Aquaword> ok
[12:43] <Aquaword> got it
[12:44] <Aquaword> it was the firewall, sorry
[12:45] <Aquaword> thx all
[12:51] <krizoek> someone here know of any tool that would benchmark and suggest improvements for to make the computer go faster?
[12:52] <Guest539> I am new to this...and i am wondering 1] how to use ubunto with a memory stick and 2]How to install it as a dual OS...am i in the right place?\
[12:52] <ArielX_> yes
[12:53] <ActionParsnip> Guest539: the OS is called Ubuntu, not ubunto
[12:53] <Guest539> i stand co0rrected
[12:53] <ActionParsnip> Guest539: you can use Unetbootin to put the Ubuntu ISO on the memory stick with persistance and it will load and run from that
[12:53] <xwalk> Following up on my problem: I just tried all th solutions at askubuntu.com/questions/205376/ubuntu-12-10-unity-wont-start-on-startup and didn't have any of those possible solutions work.
[12:54] <ArielX_> http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/create-a-usb-stick-on-windows
[12:54] <ActionParsnip> Guest539: if you use Windows7 or higher, you can resize your NTFS to make free space and install to the freed space to make a dual boot, you will want about 10Gb to be comfortable
[12:55] <Guest539> Thanks for that...I have an SSD in my laptop...128 GB,so space is at a premium
[12:56] <z302> are questions relating ubuntu-server pertinent here?
[12:56] <ActionParsnip> z302: sure
[12:57] <z302> ActionParsnip, unsure about installing ubuntu server with linux-generic or linux-server kernels. I have read on the internet that they were merged long ago but I am still asked for it in the install. Iso is 13.04
[12:57] <ActionParsnip> z302: i'd go for 12.04 for a server, it is LTS
[12:57] <ActionParsnip> z302: 13.04 is only supported til January 2014
[12:58] <janisozaur> hi, my hp probook 4710s with c2d t6570 supports and has VT-x enabled in bios, however virtualbox doesn't allow me to set up any 64-bit guests. is there anything else i'm missing from my config?
[12:58] <ActionParsnip> janisozaur: I'd ask in #vbox
[12:59] <madsy> I have a dual screen setup now on a laptop with a optimus chipset, and the graphics freezes for a short while every 30 seconds. What could be wrong, and how do I begin troubleshooting it?
[12:59] <z302> ActionParsnip, tnx for the tip. its a home server and I am just 'toying' with it at the moment btw. still, which kernel?
[12:59] <madsy> Music and video runs fine while the screen is frozen, and CPU usage does not go up
[13:00] <madsy> And the two monitors are almost the same model. Benq G2450 and G2460
[13:06] <laama> hi
[13:08] <laama> how can i define service?
[13:09] <laama> i have similar configuration to this guide: http://fcorti.com/category/enterprise-content-management/alfresco/page/3/
[13:09] <laama> there is command
[13:09] <laama> service alfresco start
[13:09] <laama> i dont know where is this service defined
[13:09] <laama> could you help me?
[13:12] <HypnotiX> how can i install the nvidia-graphics-drivers-310
[13:14] <UrielVigilante> Installing Kingoffice with wine its ok, but onlive app give me this message error :  unable to initialize installer GUI.
[13:15] <ikonia> UrielVigilante: #winehq
[13:15] <UrielVigilante> And appear a bar saying loading indefenitelly ....
[13:16] <ferr> by
[13:18] <ArielX_> does anyone know how to install postfix
[13:18] <ikonia> ArielX_: open the package manager, find the pstfix package, install it. It's installed by default on ubuntu I believe depending on your version
[13:18] <llutz> ArielX_: sudo apt-get install postfix   and then browse postfix.org/documentation
[13:19] <ArielX_> lol
[13:19] <indrajeet> hey anyone help me
[13:19] <indrajeet> i have an issue regarding Xubuntu
[13:20] <ArielX_> I mean how to install smtp mail server
[13:20] <HypnotiX> sudo lshw -C video shows two drivers in use how can i make ubuntu use the nvidia one and not the vga one /?
[13:20] <ikonia> ArielX_: postfix is an smtp mail server
[13:20] <z302> !ask
[13:20] <indrajeet> how can i change my screen resolution in Xubuntu 13.04
[13:21] <z302> System settings -> display
[13:21] <indrajeet> my graphics card's from Sis mirage
[13:21] <llutz> ArielX_: running  a mailserver isn't something to be explained in 2 minutes. so go and read the documentation, there is an article in the *buntu-wiki too iirc
[13:21] <ikonia> indrajeet: you'll have problems, sadl
[13:21] <ikonia> sadly
[13:22] <ArielX_> thats the problem
[13:22] <indrajeet> actually my laptop's default resolution is 1280 X 720
[13:22] <llutz> ArielX_: and btw, in most cases people better use something like ssmtp/msmtp than a full-featured (blown) mta
[13:22] <indrajeet> but Xubuntu recognize only 800x 600
[13:22] <indrajeet> plz help me how can i get my original resolution
[13:25] <faugusztin> indrajeet: does X actually recognize your resolution ? check /var/log/Xorg.0.log and search for your resolution
[13:25] <ArielX_> mind giving me a full tutorial or rather step by step before I kill my PC... have tried severally but end up with errors with smtp/mail server
[13:26] <ikonia> ArielX_: it's not something you should be talked through
[13:26] <ikonia> ArielX_: you need to understand it
[13:27] <llutz> ArielX_: 1st: why do you need an mta, just for sending out some mails from webfrontend?
[13:27] <ArielX_> for a webmail interface
[13:27] <llutz> ArielX_: so go with ssmtp/msmtp
[13:28] <ikonia> ArielX_: webmail does not mean you need your own smtp server, you could point it at a remote one/your ISP's one
[13:28] <ArielX_> mind giving me a full tutorial or rather step by step before I kill my PC... said it before... lets go with ssmtp/msmtp
[13:29] <ikonia> ArielX_: as I said, it's not something you get talked through, you need to understand it
[13:29] <ArielX_> trying all ikonia
[13:29] <user__> i try to update xubuntu but i getting this
[13:29] <user__> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6175583/
[13:30] <ArielX_> got it.. thanks
[13:30] <ArielX_> ill keep reading
[13:31] <zykotick9> user__: "
[13:31] <zykotick9> gzip: stdout: No space left on device" you're out of space i'd guess
[13:32] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[13:32] <xenszx> yo
[13:32] <marcoo> the Makefile at linux-headers-3.8.0-31-generic is not working. when i was working with linux-headers-3.8.0-30-generic it *did* work. Any ideas?
[13:32] <ikonia> the make file ?
[13:33] <marcoo> yes
[13:33] <ikonia> it's a headers package, there is no makefile for headers
[13:33] <marcoo> it says it doesnt have a rule
[13:33] <marcoo> what? linux-headers-3.8.0-30-generic had a makefile for sure!
[13:33] <schwami> how do I change the standard search engine on the address bar in firefox?
[13:34] <user__> strange. i  have free space on my harddrive
[13:34] <Lottie> You mean Your front page?
[13:34] <zykotick9> user__: do you have a separate /boot partition?
[13:35] <user__> yes
[13:35] <ActionParsnip> schwami: what is the output of: lsb_release -a
[13:35] <zykotick9> user__: and how much space does it have?  do you have a reason for a separate /boot?
[13:35] <GothPaw> So I'm using 13.04 and came to my PC this morning to find all my "appearance" settings reset back to original state. How is it that this could happen? Any suggestions
[13:36] <Lottie> schwami, Do you mean your front page (the website that pops up when you load firefox?)
[13:36] <ActionParsnip> schwami: well, -sc     is sleeker
[13:36] <marcoo> linux-headers-3.8.0-31-generic/build
[13:36] <marcoo> can anyone help?
[13:37] <ikonia> marcoo: sorry, what is the actual problem ? what are you trying to do
[13:37] <marcoo> if i hadnt made an update, this wouldnt be happening
[13:37] <schwami> Lottie, no, I meant when you type something in the url bar
[13:37] <ihre> marcoo: define "this"
[13:38] <ActionParsnip> schwami: what is the output of:  lsb_release -sc
[13:38] <marcoo> ikonia: i'm a computer science student. for a project, i have to code a kernel module. Last night, i updated the kernel headers and now it wont compile my module. Apparently, the Makefile at linux-headers-3.8.0-31-generic/build doesnt have a rule.
[13:39] <ikonia> marcoo: what command are you running ?
[13:39] <marcoo> it's not a problem with my module. it compiled fine with linux-headers-3.8.0-30-generic/build
[13:40] <marcoo> make -C $(DIR) M=$(PWD) modules
[13:40] <marcoo> where
[13:40] <marcoo> DIR := /lib/modules/linux-headers-3.8.0-31-generic/build
[13:40] <ikonia> marcoo: what target does it think is missing ?
[13:41] <Tecan> whats dpkg-source for ?
[13:41] <ikonia> marcoo: I'm assuming "modules" is the target it's complaining about
[13:41] <schwami> ActionParsnip, precise (I am currently on Ubuntu. Not on Linux Mint)
[13:41] <Lottie> Dpackage manager Tecan
[13:41] <pure> Hello!
[13:41] <Lottie> Hi
[13:41] <pure> Is there any way to disable the Alt-Left/Alt-Right shortcuts for switching ttys?
[13:42] <llutz> Tecan: type "whatis dpkg-source"
[13:42] <Tecan> Lottie , i'm trying to figure out how to use dsc and diff files
[13:42] <Tecan> i need to compile festival
[13:42] <marcoo> ikonia: no, last night it worked perfectly with 30 headers
[13:42] <ikonia> marcoo: what target is it complaining about ?
[13:42] <marcoo> ikonia: let me paste you the output
[13:43] <ikonia> marcoo: use a pastebin please.
[13:43] <ActionParsnip> schwami: why do ou mention min?
[13:43] <HypnotiX> Can someone help me get my graphics drivers up and running again? i have tried everything i read on google
[13:43] <ActionParsnip> schwami: why do you mention mint?
[13:43] <schwami> ActionParsnip, the problem's on mint
[13:43] <ActionParsnip> schwami: mint is not supported here
[13:43] <ActionParsnip> !mint | schwami
[13:44] <schwami> ok, thx
[13:44] <jony_easyrider> https://ssh.serverdo.in/ - this site can be trusted?
[13:44] <GothPaw> So I'm using 13.04 and came to my PC this morning to find all my "appearance" settings reset back to original state. How is it that this could happen? Any suggestions
[13:45] <ikonia> jony_easyrider: nothing to do with this channel
[13:45] <Zteam> Hi guys
[13:46] <marcoo> ikonia: http://pastebin.com/Tm4v15fX
[13:47] <ikonia> marcoo: looks like you've made a call to something that's been removed as an include
[13:48] <Zteam> My X-server has stopped working since I updated my freshly installed Ubuntu 13.04 system
[13:49] <Rory> Zteam: Does it still work if you boot from an older kernel by selecting it in Grub?
[13:50] <Zteam> Rory: nope not even from X failsafe mode :-/
[13:50] <marcoo> ikonia: are you *completely* sure about that?
[13:52] <Zteam> Rory: And I have no xorg. conf to edit either
[13:52] <Rory> Zteam: Can you get to a TTY with Ctrl+Alt+F1 ?
[13:53] <ikonia> marcoo: not at all, that's what it looks like
[13:54] <Zteam> Rory: yes that works
[13:54] <zykotick9> Rory: sidenote, those are called consoles, short for "linux console".  ANY terminal, including Xorg-terminals are TTYs...  #ubottu incorrectly uses TTY as well i believe, so you're not alone ;)
[13:54] <ikonia> not "sure" as I don't know your code or the background, but when you look at the error syscall_32.tbl is not being built (check if there is a target for it in the old makefile) and unistd_32.h seems to depend on it
[13:55] <Rory> zykotick9: Nothing in what I said was incorrect, and I'm aware of the terminology
[13:55] <zykotick9> Rory: then i'd suggest using the correct terminology then, using incorrect terms for things leads to confusion down the road
[13:56] <Rory> Zteam: If you use the command: "less /var/log/Xorg.0.log" do you see errors?
[13:57] <marcoo> ikonia: cant be that
[13:58] <ikonia> marcoo: why do you think that ?
[13:58] <zykotick9> Zteam: while looking through Xorg.0.log pay particular attention to lines with EE in them
[14:00] <yenal> hi how can i print mouse location on mouse click in terminal "xdotool search --any . behave %1 mouse-click getmouselocation" donst work for me :/
[14:01] <yenal> while "xdotool search --any . behave %@ mouse-enter getmouselocation" is working
[14:04] <Zteam> Rory: warning EE error (NI not implemented)
[14:06] <Zteam> Rory It's also tries to load alot of display drivers
[14:06] <marcoo> ikonia: the file it can't compile has something to do with syscalls. What i'm doing isn't related to syscalls.
[14:07] <marcoo> ikonia: this must be an update error
[14:07] <ikonia> marcoo: that file has a depend
[14:07] <ikonia> marcoo: check the makefile to see if there is a target for that file to be made, check the old and new one
[14:08] <marcoo> the old has been removed from my system
[14:08] <ikonia> marcoo: you can still check it
[14:08] <marcoo> how?
[14:08] <ikonia> marcoo: grab the package from the repo, you can browse the repo on http
[14:11] <Zteam> Rory: worth to mention: I was trying to install the Nvidia driver but Jockey never let me choose it
[14:12] <Rory> Zteam: Yes that was worth mentioning
[14:12] <Rory> Zteam: sudo apt-get install nvidia-current
[14:13] <bananarana> !list
[14:13] <marcoo> ikonia: sorry, these Makefiles are too complex for me
[14:15] <Zteam> Yes I'm trying this now
[14:15] <pure> Is using the default terminal in tty1-6 a bad idea?
[14:17] <Zteam> Rory: I was thinking about installing that package myself
[14:17] <Rory> pure: No it's what they're there for
[14:18] <Zteam> Rory: But should not the default driver still be working?
[14:18] <pure> A lot of characters aren't displaying correctly. :/
[14:20] <InterWeb> Can I ask any question of xubuntu on here ?
[14:20] <compdoc> InterWeb, you can try
[14:20] <Zteam> Rory: anyway it works now
[14:21] <yenal> anybody who has similar problems with xdotool ? I want the mouselocation upon mouse-click on the whole screen... "xdotool search --any . behave %@ mouse-enter getmouselocation" works but "xdotool search --any . behave %@ mouse-click getmouselocation" does not.. only sometime if I click right and then again left
[14:21] <KillaYabu> h3y im some noob here trying to figure out what Im doing wrong
[14:21] <KillaYabu> can someone help?
[14:21] <pure> Is there any way to know if I've set up my terminal correctly in terms of charset and locale?
[14:21] <Rory> !details | KillaYabu
[14:23] <KillaYabu> So I was able to install ubuntu just fine but when it rebooted it gave me the windows error system page saying I needed to do something with a CD or something
[14:25] <Zteam> Rory: anyway thanks for all your help
[14:26] <Rory> KillaYabu: It said that :o that's an oddly vague error message
[14:26] <pure> LANG=en_GB.UTF-8 is correct?
[14:26] <Rory> pure: If that's the one you want, yes
[14:26] <pure> Lots of characters aren't displaying (namely line drawing and quote marks)
[14:27] <Rory> "quote marks" like this are us-ascii, can you see them?
[14:27] <pure> Yup.
[14:27] <madsy> I figured the cause of my problem. Apparently, enabling real-time threads in /etc/security/limits.conf causes mini-freezes whenever an application that uses them runs.
[14:28] <pure> Some are showing up as U`
[14:28] <madsy> How can I fix that? I really need RT threading for Renoise and music sequencing
[14:28] <maurizio2> ciao
[14:28] <Rory> madsy: I believe you need to install the realtime kernel, what Ubuntu version are you using?
[14:29] <pure> Can I take a PrtScr of a terminal?
[14:29] <Rory> pure: Sure
[14:29] <Rory> Out of interest is there a preferred image host for this channel?
[14:29] <madsy> Rory: 13.04 raring
[14:30] <madsy> Rory: But wouldn't a vanilla kernel ignore the config settings if it isn't supported?
[14:30] <Tecan> how would i build this https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/festival/1:2.1~release-1ubuntu2 ?
[14:30] <Rory> madsy: Honestly I don't know enough about it
[14:30] <Tecan> i have all 3 in a folder
[14:30] <Rory> Tecan: debuild
[14:31] <Tecan> i seen that earlier, looks like a useful command lol
[14:31] <pure> ls
[14:31] <pure> >_>
[14:33] <madsy> Rory: Thanks anyway. I guess I'll settle without RT for now
[14:35] <zykotick9> Rory: re:image host, !paste suggests using http://imagebin.org/?page=add
[14:36] <Tecan> pure, there has to be something i'm missing, debuild cant find the changelog
[14:36] <Rory> Tecan: How did you get the sources? apt-get source festival ?
[14:36] <Tecan> no just wget into a folder
[14:36] <Tecan> then untard
[14:36] <Rory> Tecan: OK you need to extract them
[14:37] <Rory> Tecan: Then cd into the folder and there should be a file called INSTALL
[14:38] <Rory> Tecan: Why are you building it, as a matter of interest? It's in the repositories already built
[14:38] <Tecan> yes but i need to patch it for hts support
[14:38] <Tecan> maybe i duno, its really confusing haha
[14:40] <Ari-Yang> hello, I added apt source lines to /etc/apt/sources.list and got this when I ran apt-get update right after: W: GPG error: http://www.bunkus.org ./ Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY BCCF7AF0B6571FCA
[14:40] <Ari-Yang> would that be a problem when I try to install the program (mkvtoolnix)?
[14:42] <goldstar> does anyone know where I can find the default php extensions dir in ubuntu ? I did sudo apt-get install lamp...
[14:44] <schnitzl-mobile> Hi. How to join a wifi network on ubuntu server. I added the network in /etc/
[14:44] <schnitzl-mobile> In /etc/network/interfaces i mean
[14:44] <NeoKarna> goldstar,  lamp-server^ ?
[14:44] <pure> imagebin.org/272365
[14:44] <bananarana> ciao
[14:44] <goldstar> NeoKarna: yes
[14:45] <bananarana> !list
[14:45] <schnitzl-mobile> But it wont connect on reboot
[14:45] <BluesKaj> schnitzl-mobile:  sudo dhclient eth0
[14:45] <vusie> ohhhh jesusu finaly
[14:45] <pure> I take it I've set something up wrong?
[14:46] <schnitzl-mobile> Sudo dhclient wlan0 for wifi?
[14:46] <NeoKarna> goldstar,  you mean php.ini file ?
[14:47] <svip> How do I resize the main partition while sitting on it?  I can't use the root recovery shell?
[14:47] <BluesKaj> sch
[14:47] <svip> (Because apparently, it won't umount.)
[14:47] <BluesKaj> schnitzl-mobile: yes
[14:47] <goldstar> NeoKarna: I mean the php modules/extensions folder. I want to add a new extension to php
[14:47] <vusie> @svip best to use live disk
[14:47] <BluesKaj> schnitzl-mobile: http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/setting-up-an-network-interfaces-file/
[14:48] <svip> vusie: :S I wished I could avoid that, it's just a server on a virtual machine after all.
[14:48] <schnitzl-mobile> Blueskaj i did that. Its the 2nd nrtwork in taht file
[14:49] <svip> vusie: Can a server installation disc also behave as a live disc (albiet only with a shell)?
[14:49] <vusie> @svip..ohhh m not sure about that
[14:49] <BluesKaj> schnitzl-mobile:  sudo ifconfig wlan0 up
[14:49] <vusie> @svip but i guess so
[14:49] <faugusztin> NeoKarna: php -i | grep extension_dir
[14:49] <ridhan> somebody help me
[14:50] <ridhan> why i can't enable my wifi
[14:50] <Rory> !details | ridhan
[14:50] <NeoKarna> faugusztin,  but that contains no modules
[14:50] <BluesKaj> schnitzl-mobile:  then to, Find WiFi Networks : sudo iwlist wlan0 scan|grep -i essid
[14:50] <Rory> !wifi | ridhan
[14:51] <ridhan> i have problem with my wifi. i'm runing ubuntu version 12.04.  my probem i can't enable my wifi
[14:51] <faugusztin> goldstar, NeoKarna: not sure if i follow - that is the directory where modules installed via pecl/phpize go :)
[14:51] <Rory> ridhan: How do you know?
[14:51] <schnitzl-mobile> Yea- foind my network' is the interface config case sensitive?
[14:52] <goldstar> faugusztin: correct
[14:52] <faugusztin> goldstar: and that is why "php -i | grep extension_dir" is pointless to figure that out - you should use pecl or phpize
[14:52] <goldstar> faugusztin: what would the command be ?
[14:52] <BluesKaj> schnitzl-mobile:  just use , sudo iwlist wlan0 scan|grep -i essid
[14:52] <Rory> ridhan: What I'm getting at is, what's going on? What happens when you try to connect normally?
[14:52] <schnitzl-mobile> Did that. I found my network
[14:53] <faugusztin> goldstar: for what ? phpize ?
[14:53] <faugusztin> goldstar: http://php.net/manual/en/install.pecl.phpize.php
[14:53] <goldstar> faugusztin: well I need to ext path so with php you do php -i | grep whatever, what would i do with pecl to get that data
[14:54] <BluesKaj> !who | schnitzl-mobile
[14:54] <faugusztin> goldstar: nothing, you don't do anything with it - that is the task for phpize to figure out all the settings
[14:54] <goldstar> faugusztin: ok
[14:54] <schnitzl-mobile> Sry. As you see i am here with an android device using some shitty irc client. I dont have auto complete Nick Name with tab
[14:55] <faugusztin> goldstar: and before you ask where phpize is - it is in php5-dev package
[14:56] <NeoKarna> goldstar,  see /usr/lib/apache2/modules , if that's what youa re searching
[14:56] <goldstar> NeoKarna: its not there
[14:56] <fishcooker> i've remastered ubuntu distro itu spesific need, how to mass install it through LAN
[14:57] <NeoKarna> which one are you searchig for ?
[14:57] <goldstar> its not for me btw, i dont use ubuntu, its for colleage :\
[14:57] <fishcooker> itu = *into
[14:57] <BluesKaj> schnitzl-mobile:  mobile could nean a laptop, so I couldn'r see what kind of device you are using
[14:57] <NeoKarna> goldstar,  which one are you searching for ?
[14:57] <goldstar> NeoKarna: i dont understand
[14:58] <NeoKarna> goldstar,  which module are you searching for ?
[14:58] <NeoKarna> goldstar,  you installed modules for php right ?
[14:58] <faugusztin> goldstar: the point is - your .so php modules will be in directory returned by php -i | grep extension_dir
[14:58] <goldstar> NeoKarna: not searching for any one in particular, just need add a new extension that was compiled
[14:58] <faugusztin> goldstar: but to get that module there, you need to compile it against the PHP version you are using
[14:59] <NeoKarna> goldstar,  I think that is done through php.ini
[14:59] <faugusztin> goldstar: and you do that via the phpize command i linked you earlier
[14:59] <goldstar> alright guys
[14:59] <goldstar> thanks
[14:59] <paulus68> which ubuntu version is better for a 64bit machine de 64 or 32 bit version of desktop and would it be better to use the current version or the upcomming at the end of october
[14:59] <faugusztin> goldstar: unless it is a precompiled module from apt repository, in that case you don't have to do anything, as the package will add the required ini stuff to /etc/php.d (if i remember correctly)
[15:00] <BluesKaj> schnitzl-mobile:  don't pm me pls , we can do suport in here , so others can also help if they wish
[15:00] <schnitzl-mobile> Ok- no prob but im that case i cant tag auto complete your nick
[15:01] <schnitzl-mobile> Back to topic. ;-)  i did grep essid
[15:01] <BluesKaj> schnitzl-mobile:  you could type it
[15:02] <schnitzl-mobile> Ok. I can. Which makes me even slower on that android keyboard but since you really like that blueskaj
[15:02] <BluesKaj> schnitzl-mobile:  and using wifi without network manager gets complicated
[15:03] <schnitzl-mobile> BluesKaj,  Which network manager for console do you suggest
[15:04] <jmgk> hi NeoKarna
[15:04] <BluesKaj> schnitzl-mobile:  it's easier to see your replies , network manager for the desktop panel is best for wifi in my experience ,mush easier to set up
[15:05] <BluesKaj> mush=much
[15:05] <schnitzl-mobile> I have ubuntu server. So not even x 11 server ia installed ;-)  BluesKaj
[15:05] <NeoKarna> jmgk, hi!
[15:06] <jmgk> its me :)
[15:07] <schnitzl-mobile> BluesKaj, I got it. Apperantly interfaces file does support only one interface. I commented the old one out. This works for now.
[15:09] <NeoKarna> goldstar,  if I am right you have made a php extension like curl and don't know where to place it so that it works .
[15:09] <goldstar> NeoKarna: not to worry I have fixed it
[15:10] <NeoKarna> goldstar,  how did you do that ?
[15:11] <goldstar> NeoKarna: php -i | grep extension_dir
[15:12] <NeoKarna> goldstar,  so you placed your extension in that folder?
[15:13] <BluesKaj> schnitzl-mobile: ok, becaquse I'm not familiar with wifi over /etc/network/interfaces
[15:13] <schnitzl-mobile> BluesKaj thank you anyways :-)
[15:13] <faugusztin> japan :D http://www.engadget.com/gallery/google-play-vending-machines-in-japan/1251736/#!slide=1251738
[15:14] <faugusztin> (srry, wrong channel)
[15:14] <goldstar> NeoKarna: well I didnt, I just needed to know where to modules folder was to check if the files I needed where in there.
[15:16] <nick07> i installed ubuntu server 12.04 and ajenti, ip is 192.168.2.120, but i cannot connect to the server
[15:17] <Peanut> Since running updates on two identical machines that run 'Raring', I now get 'rename3' as ethernet interface name instead of 'p2p2', which it used to be. Does anyone know how to fix this on raring? Does the system still look at /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persitent-net.rules, and if so, how do I populate that nowadays?
[15:17] <nick07> ping in windows is ok
[15:17] <StarFlower> Does Ubuntu support 3tb hard drives
[15:17] <NeoKarna> goldstar,  you mean modules like php-curl?
[15:18] <goldstar> skypeyeh
[15:18] <goldstar> yeh*
[15:18] <CatKiller> StarFlower: sure
[15:18] <StarFlower> CatKiller, thanks
[15:19] <NeoKarna> goldstar,  curl is placed in /usr/bin
[15:21] <bill_s> hi, I did an update of my 12.04 LTS desktop and found I could only boot to terminal due to NVIDIA conflicts. I found an item about it at askubuntu.com, followed the solution, and now I can't boot to terminal either, only to a graphical login screen that fails and redisplays itself. I can't access recovery mode or a GRUB menu. looking stuck
[15:24] <roflin> Heya guys I'm trying to upgrade from ubuntu 13.04 to the 13.10 final beta. But in the upgrade procedure it notifies me that it cannot calculate the upgrade path. But it doesn't tell me which packages are causing this problem. So I'm afraid I won't be able to make the switch even when it is released. Can i somehow get some more info about the cause of this error?
[15:24] <ActionParsnip> bill_s: do you have a switchable GPU (aka Optimus)
[15:28] <bill_s> ActionParsnip: sorry I don't understand the question
[15:34] <FiremanEd> roflin: Your question would be better answered on the #ubuntu+1 channel since it is still in development and not a supported release covered in the main #ubuntu channel.
[15:34] <roflin> owk then I'll ask my question in there thanks.
[15:35] <FiremanEd> roflin: good deal
[15:35] <K1rk> Hey everyone.
[15:35] <mjayk> Haya
[15:35] <K1rk> I'm troubleshooting this Dell WiFi \ Broadcom issue still.  Anybody have time to look at my thread and give me some input on whether my drivers are in good shape?
[15:36] <K1rk> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2177780
[15:43] <aylerni> hi, i have ubuntu 13.04 (on a server) on home, the problem is, VNC cannot start any folders or any program. i went home today. now mouse on VNC is frozen (on 100mbit LAN). is this a virus, or what is problem?
[15:45] <paulus68> ActionParsnip: little question if I my I have a 64bit desktop what is better to install the 32/64 bit desktop version with the 13.04 or wait till the 13.10?
[15:48] <paulus68> server is slow :(
[15:50] <jokoon> I have a macbook with lubuntu installed
[15:50] <jokoon> 13,04
[15:50] <jokoon> how can I know the temperature ?
[15:50] <jokoon> cpu etc ?
[15:52] <k1l> jokoon: see lm_sensors
[15:52] <k1l> !sensors  > jokoon
[15:53] <paulus68> little question I have a 64bit desktop what is better to install the 32/64 bit desktop version with the 13.04 or wait till the 13.10?
[15:54] <K1rk> paulus68: "better"?
[15:54] <jpds> paulus68: Doesn't matter.
[15:55] <TJ-> paulus68: If the PC has more than 4GB of RAM, the 64-bit version will give processes better access to all RAM, at the expense of slightly larger storage and in-memory requirements
[15:55] <ViperaBerus> If it is slow, figure out why it is slow instead of reinstalling?
[15:55] <mjayk> paulus68: 13.10 is out ?
[15:56] <paulus68> mjayk: no this will come out at the end of next month
[15:56] <mjayk> paulus68: you can already download / install it
[15:57] <paulus68> TJ-: thanks
[15:57] <scottyinzeo> hi all - I have been unable to get the nvidia proprietary drivers working correctly on Ubuntu 13.04 on my Macbook Pro 6,2 - everything appears to install correctly, but as soon as I login after a restart, the screen all of a sudden goes black - i haven't been able to find any errors in the logs either...any ideas?
[15:58] <TJ-> paulus68: Also, 64-bit CPUs have many more on-chip registers which means processes will often execute faster because they don't have to keep shuffling variable values between slow RAM and fast CPU registers
[15:59] <Rory> What's the syntax in /etc/sudoers to allow user "foo" to run the script "/path/to/script" without a password?
[15:59] <jokoon> k1l, thanks !
[16:00] <paulus68> TJ-: got you and then for the final question better to wait for the 13.10 or take the 13.04
[16:00] <K1rk> Rory: http://askubuntu.com/questions/159007/how-do-i-run-specific-sudo-commands-without-a-password
[16:02] <TJ-> paulus68: If you're doing a fresh install now I'd recommend starting with the 13.10 beta 2 release... we're in the final freeze now, only bug-fixes to add (in theory!), so once installed the regular update routine will ensure it is up-to-date. If you install 13.04 now, you'll then have to do a potentially disruptive "do-release-upgrade" later. For my money, one release version install per month is enough!
[16:03] <TJ-> paulus68: I've been running 13.10 server for a couple of months and the core is stable... I'm also installing new PCs with the desktop beta2 without any glaring problems up to now
[16:04] <paulus68> TJ-: ok thanks for your help
[16:05] <gtc_> hi world
[16:07] <tim`> is there a resolution to the gnome-3 alt-tab getting stuck on the screen issue?
[16:07] <tim`> can't find a good one searching tickets :/
[16:08] <gtc_> hi
[16:08] <bill_s> trying my question again, after waiting a while: hi, I did an update of my 12.04 LTS desktop and found I could only boot to terminal due to NVIDIA conflicts. I found an item about it at askubuntu.com, followed the solution, and now I can't boot to terminal either, only to a graphical login screen that fails and redisplays itself. I can't access recovery mode or a GRUB menu. looking stuck
[16:08] <20WAC8ZJ7> not yet, working on it
[16:09] <bill_s> I would be happy with just being able to retrieve my latest files and reinstall. I don't have a lot of important stuff on the main drive
[16:15] <ajp> Having trouble with a Rosewill/Marvell PCI ethernet card being detected. I can see it when I run lspci but it doesn't show up in my ifconfig, nor do the connectivity lights light up. Anyone have suggestions?
[16:15] <K1rk> ajp:  Pastebin the output of lspci please?
[16:15] <TJ-> bill_s: Does that mean that you can't get to the GRUB boot menu by holding down the Shift key as the machine starts?
[16:16] <bill_s> correct
[16:16] <[twisti]> does this display an image with lots of numbers for you ? id appreciate if a few people could check that
[16:16] <[twisti]> http://www.boringville.com/tdtest02/
[16:16] <[twisti]> a friend told me thats just a black screen on ubuntu
[16:16] <[twisti]> but im hoping its his pc, not ubuntu
[16:16] <ajp> K1rk: here's the important part: http://pastebin.com/WxaazgmP
[16:21] <corndog69totheri> Hey, is this thing working?
[16:22] <ViperaBerus> Corndog: Not at all
[16:22] <devilmaycry> one problem
[16:22] <TJ-> bill_s: If the machine goes on to boot, but GRUB ignores Shift, I'd have to suspect a bad keyboard issue for starters (USB issue possibly?)
[16:22] <devilmaycry> I use my pc to create the wifi
[16:22] <bill_s> TJ-: no idea
[16:23] <devilmaycry> but my phone can't use it
[16:23] <bill_s> never had keyboard issues before
[16:23] <[twisti]> could anyone please click my link and let me know if it works on ubuntu ?
[16:23] <bill_s> I can boot from a DVD and the keyboard works fine
[16:23] <devilmaycry> why?
[16:24] <[twisti]> so i can know if my friends problem is with his pc or with ubuntu in general
[16:24] <TJ-> bill_s: Well, GRUB won't just start ignoring the Shift key. The only issue sometimes can be - depending on Motherboard/BIOS - that it needs tapping rapidly rather than being held down in order for GRUB to see the key-press
[16:24] <bill_s> TJ-: OK I'll try that
[16:24] <TJ-> bill_s: If you can get that working, you can then get to recovery mode, and make some progress on fixing the original issue !
[16:25] <Chat4431> hello
[16:26] <bill_s> TJ-: nope, no effect, I still get my graphical UI login screen, which accepts my password, flickers a few times, and then I'm back at my login screen
[16:26] <TJ-> bill_s: USB keyboard, or PS/2 style?
[16:27] <TJ-> bill_s: Try switching to a VT and logging in there Ctrl+Alt+F1 then log-in
[16:27] <bill_s> TJ-: USB, through a multi-switcher
[16:27] <vusie> irc/LAS
[16:27] <bill_s> TJ-: what's a VT
[16:27] <vusie> cd /LAS
[16:27] <vusie> l
[16:28] <TJ-> bill_s: I've had that issue when the BIOS 'forgot' it was supposed to have USB "legacy mode" enabled... its a setting that has the BIOS provide USB services to early boot before an OS starts. Might be worth checking in the PC's BIOS/firmware settings to see if there's such an option and that it is enabled.
[16:29] <TJ-> bill_s: VT = Virtual Terminal. Linux starts 7 VTs in multi-user mode, tty's tty1 through tty7. tty7 runs the GUI, the others are text-mode and you can switch amongst them. When in the GUI you have to press Ctrl+Alt+F1 through F6, but once in a text VT you only need to press Alt+F1 through F7 to switch
[16:29] <bill_s> TJ-: there is a BIOS options screen I can get to during the boot process but I couldn't figure out what would be relevant
[16:30] <bill_s> TJ-: OK but I am lost, sorry
[16:30] <bill_s> TJ-: OK, I did ctrl-alt-f1 and got a terminal login
[16:31] <bill_s> TJ-: so I can log in at the command line level
[16:31] <TJ-> bill_s: It's a long shot but in my experience, 90% of the causes of GRUB not answering to the Shift key, is a USB keyboard and most often, its the BIOS setting that is the culprit. It is possible the USB switcher is causing a problem. Try connecting the USB keyboard directly to the PC if you can.
[16:31] <TJ-> bill_s: Yes, you can, just like a recovery mode terminal (its the same thing).
[16:32] <bill_s> TJ-: since I can get to a command line using ctrl-alt-f1, do I still need to pursue the GRUB option?
[16:34] <stani> q:
[16:37] <TJ-> bill_s: Pursing GRUB... not immediately but I'd put it on your todo list since if there are other more serious errors you can't do recovery. And as you already have issues, I'd want that proven to be available to avoid locking you out.
[16:37] <bill_s> OK
[16:38] <bill_s> TJ-: thanks, have to go now
[16:38] <dtigue> anyone know why fail2ban would work on one ubuntu 12.04 server and not the other, both servers have the same fail2ban config files
[16:42] <CatKiller> dtigue: The problem description is a bit vague :p
[16:42] <mjayk> dtigue: it would figure to reason that the servers are different
[16:43] <Biomechd> dammit, rhythmbox outright refuses to play a bunch of my songs via streaming through samba. it's as i they're all corrupt.
[16:43] <dtigue> CatKiller, well, the problem is a bit vague too, it's not banning through wordpress one one server and it does ban through wordpress on the other,  i figure something is different, but it's not the config files for fail2ban that are different
[16:44] <CatKiller> dtigue: Maybe the log files "look" different because of differing wordpress versions
[16:44] <dtigue> i have checked all of fail2bans files, and i've checked all the wordpress config files
[16:44] <CatKiller> maybe fail2ban isn't running
[16:45] <dtigue> it's running, it bans ssh attempts, just not wordpress attempts
[16:45] <wabbit_> ?
 dtigue: Maybe the log files "look" different because of differing wordpress version
[16:46] <trewq_> Hi Folks - Just installed 13.04 and upgraded the kernel to 3.11. Now I need to install turbostat, and it says I need to install  linux-tools-3.11.0-031100 - How can I know which repository this exists in?
[16:47] <JonoL> * Hi,  how to delete BASH history  and delete the remove  history command? :)
[16:47] <OerHeks> !find linux-tools-3.11
[16:47] <MonkeyDust> trewq_  that version of linuxtools is not in the raring repos
[16:47] <Calinou> JonoL: delete .bash_history
[16:47] <Calinou> which is in your ~
[16:47] <JonoL> Calinou:   That didnt answer  Q
[16:47] <JonoL> Calinou:  and delete the remove  history command? :)
[16:47] <dubhdara> how do i set screen size in my xorg.conf file
[16:48] <JonoL> Delete history AND delete the delete history command !
[16:48] <vusie> c
[16:48] <trewq_> MonkeyDust: yeah - looks like it does not exist in the Saucy repo either
[16:48] <Calinou> so you don't want history to be saved at all?
[16:48] <dubhdara> i know to do the modes thing but it ain't taking it
[16:48] <Calinou> edit .bashrc then
[16:48] <CatKiller> JonoL: I think *why* you need to do that is the question
[16:48] <Calinou> change HISTSIZE=1000 with HISTSIZE=0
[16:48] <JonoL> CatKiller:  Because I want to
[16:48] <MonkeyDust> trewq_  find a PPA, but that's not supported here
[16:48] <Calinou> CatKiller: being paranoid :)
[16:48] <CatKiller> You want to clear the current history and make sure people can't clear it anymore or something?
[16:48] <trewq_> MonkeyDust: how can I confirm? I searched under http://packages.ubuntu.com/ and I do not see anything related to this pacakage
[16:49] <MonkeyDust> trewq_  confirm what exactly?
[16:49] <dtigue_> JonoL: rm ~/.bash_history && !!
[16:49] <CatKiller> JonoL: That's not an answer to the question. Why I ask is that depending on why you want to do it you may be making a mistake. The idea here is to help you achieve your goal, not simply blindly answering questions
[16:49] <wabbit_> JonoL is waching t_Co 256 bit P**n
[16:49] <trewq_> MonkeyDust: Confirm that any version of linux-tools exists in some PPA offered by Ubuntu
[16:50] <trewq_> MonkeyDust: what is the normal process for searching for a PPA? (besides google)
[16:50] <JonoL> How can I make it so on logout of any user the history is deleteD? Is there a global part for this ?
[16:50] <MonkeyDust> trewq_  you'll have to search the internet, you're on your own when it comes to PPA's
[16:50] <[twisti]> could anyone please click my link and let me know if it works on ubuntu ? http://www.boringville.com/tdtest02/
[16:51] <trewq_> MonkeyDust: Is http://packages.ubuntu.com/ broken? Can't seem to find anything related to linux-tools (which I know exists in some form in raring)
[16:51] <OerHeks> trewq_, how did you install that kernel ? and look here, http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=linux-tools no linux tools version you want.
[16:52] <MonkeyDust> trewq_  the link works, but ubottu already showed that what you want is not yet in the repos
[16:52] <JonoL> How do I set histsize for all users?
[16:52] <lanteau> I'm running ubuntu server on a laptop with a 3TB USB hard drive attached for storage. lately my load averages have been through the roof, so much so the server is unusable. In dmesg I see a lot of "timing out command, waited 360s". I'm not sure how to figure out what's wrong here?
[16:53] <trewq_> OerHeks: I installed from http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v3.11-saucy/
[16:53] <lanteau> In top all the load is coming from "wa" which is I/O if I know what I'm talking about
[16:53] <[twisti]> oh come on, is it really too much to ask that someone clicks my link and says 'that works for me' or 'thats broken for me too' ?
[16:53] <[twisti]> im trying to support ubuntu here
[16:53] <trewq_> OerHeks: Thanks - I see that it does exist in the PPA http://packages.ubuntu.com/saucy/linux-tools
[16:53] <CatKiller> [twisti]: "Ubuntu" is not a web browser. Test it with firefox. It should work in the same way
[16:54] <OerHeks> trewq_, oh, if you have saucy issues, join #ubuntu+1 until release
[16:54] <[twisti]> sorry, right, my bad, ubuntu + chrome
[16:54] <[twisti]> it works fine on my windows
[16:54] <lanteau> Chrome is Chrome is Chrome
[16:54] <CatKiller> ^
[16:54] <[twisti]> well, it works on chrome on my windows
[16:54] <[twisti]> and it doesnt work on chrome on my friends ubuntu
[16:54] <CatKiller> So then it works on Chrome ;)
[16:54] <trewq_> OerHeks: Yeah, I am still in raring, installing a newer kernal
[16:54] <[twisti]> thats why im asking here to see if thats a general ubuntu issue likes he claims
[16:55] <CatKiller> I personally don't click on random links
[16:55] <CatKiller> sorry
[16:55] <CatKiller> it's not safe
[16:55] <dtigue> JonoL: change the option in /etc/bash.bashrc
[16:55] <k1l> [twisti]: for offtopic like "is it down" or "does it run on $machine" please consider ask in #ubuntu-offtopic
[16:55] <MonkeyDust> trewq_  sounds like a Frankenstein system, we cannot support that
[16:55] <frankenstein> pfft
[16:55] <[twisti]> it seems to me that its on topic, considering that the claim is that it doesnt run on ubuntu
[16:55] <lanteau> any ideas anyone for figuring out why usb-storage is bringing my system to a crawl?
[16:55] <cyberlala> hey there am a newb
[16:55] <CatKiller> Ubuntu != browser
[16:55] <ViperaBerus> [twisti]: How can it be a general Ubuntu issue when Ubuntu isn't a browser? Unless you use some Windows only fonts without a fallback or something insane like that ;)
[16:55] <MonkeyDust> frankenstein  nothing personal ;-)
[16:56] <frankenstein> MonkeyDust, :)
[16:56] <cyberlala> can someone help me out am lost
[16:56] <[twisti]> right, again, sorry, the claim is it doesnt run on chrome on ubuntu
[16:56] <trewq_> MonkeyDust: ok thanks.. appreciate your help and 4 messages about how you can't support this. Is it OK if I wait around for other helpful people to offer any pointers?
[16:56] <dtigue> cyberlala: just ask your question
[16:56] <[twisti]> it uses 3d rendering, so it seems to me like that might perfectly well be os related
[16:56] <k1l> [twisti]: stop it now
[16:56] <dtigue> cyberlala: if someone knows the answer they will help you
[16:56] <cyberlala> kk
[16:56] <MonkeyDust> trewq_  it's not me, it's the channel
[16:57] <trewq_> MonkeyDust: ??
[16:57] <StarFlower> cyberlala, what is your question?
[16:57] <CatKiller> trewq_: RedHat only supports their products (and that costs > 300$ a year) *only* if *no* other programs but the default are installed. They do this because it's near impossible to support non standard products
[16:58] <CatKiller> trewq_: Your issue could be caused by many, many different possibilities
[16:58] <cyberlala> dtigue am trying to set up a wireless file sharing network in which i can transfer file from one laptop to the other
[16:58] <CatKiller> trewq_: While you can definitely ask, don't expect that you will definitely get an answer
[16:58] <alecjw> Hi there, I'm trying to run an ubuntu livecd on a friend's laptop. It will boot up, then after a couple of minutes just suddenly restarts. Anyone have an idea what might be going on?
[16:58] <CatKiller> trewq_: Seems reasonable to me
[16:58] <StarFlower> cyberlala, how far have you gotten?
[16:59] <dtigue> cyberlala: you have many options, samba will be the best if you have any windows machines needing to access the files
[16:59] <CatKiller> alecjw: You could look up the log in /var/log/messages see if anyting pops up
[16:59] <lillo> !list
[16:59] <cyberlala> i what to share these files on kubuntu platform
[16:59] <trewq_> CatKiller: yeah I get it.. Really, I am trying to find out the deal with PPAs (without my head being chewed out) in this place
[17:00] <cyberlala> one machine can access the other but not vice versal
[17:00] <alecjw> CatKiller: How? once the system dies, the FS is lost from RAM...
[17:00] <StarFlower> which machine can access which?
[17:00] <CatKiller> alecjw: Ah yes sorry, make sense. You could try a Ubuntu live image on a USB stick with persistence
[17:01] <Guest90289> Hi, i just changed my nvidia driver on ubuntu 12.04, now when i try to start i get a blank screen, i could boot atall, im on live cd at moment..... is there away to fix this?
[17:01] <wilee-nilee> trewq_, Don't take it personally you did not understand the limitations here and kept pursuing a dead horse, its not the channels fault or the users.
[17:01] <CatKiller> trewq_: I guess they are unsupported software repos.
[17:01] <alecjw> CatKiller: hmm, i suppose. I might give that a try then, thanks.
[17:03] <Yahuntu> which gps navigation system would an ubuntu-fan use in his car?
[17:03] <Yahuntu> which works best with ubuntu?
[17:04] <cyberlala> is there any newbe channel for me to join
[17:04] <Guest90289> can anyone help me with blank screen at startup.....happened when i changed nvidia driver, now i cant boot.... im on live cd now
[17:05] <wilee-nilee> !nomodeset | Guest90289
[17:05] <StarFlower> cyberlala, I was trying to help, which machine can connect to which?
[17:06] <yingo> in ubuntu you have sound recorder which records what comes from the mic, I need something that will record what comes from mic together with the youtube video that is being played, so in short something that will record every sound outputed
[17:07] <StarFlower> cyberlala, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1685718
[17:07] <Guest90289> cant i fix it with live cd?
[17:08] <mjayk> Guest90289: when you say you cant boot how far do you get ?
[17:08] <wilee-nilee> Guest90289, Not without a chroot, that is a much harder way.
[17:08] <Guest90289> can i uninstall ALL nvidia drivers from my live cd to my installed ubuntu
[17:08] <Yahuntu> which gps navigation system would an ubuntu-fan use in his car? (which works best with ubuntu?)
[17:08] <StarFlower> when you install ubuntu from live-cd it shouldnt keep the drivers
[17:08] <Guest90289> it starts to boot then i get a blank screen with flicker cursor at top right
[17:09] <Guest90289> it happened when i chaged nvidia driver
[17:09] <wilee-nilee> Guest90289, boot in with nomodeset and fix it.
[17:09] <StarFlower> are you talking about proprietary drivers
[17:09] <Guest90289> now i cant boot hence im on live cd now
[17:09] <mjayk> if you press crtl+alt+1 can you get into a cmd session
[17:09] <mjayk> Guest90289:
[17:09] <Guest90289> sorry im a noob can anyone give me percise instructions?
[17:10] <g3ky> Hi, for someone familiar with routers. I have a dlink, and I am able to ssh into it and run iptables, but I can't seem to make it persistant across reboots. Any idea how?
[17:10] <mjayk> Guest90289: do you get past grub ? if so remove the live cd boot and press ctrl+alt+1
[17:10] <Guest90289> i get to sellect ubuntu then straight away blank screen
[17:11] <CatKiller> g3ky: Not sure it's an Ubuntu question, but basically iptables doens't save its config byu defaylt
[17:11] <CatKiller> *default
[17:11] <mjayk> Guest90289: get to the black screen then try pressing them buttons
[17:11] <CatKiller> you save the config and on boot you restore it from file
[17:11] <StarFlower> Navigate to the directory you downloaded the .run from, then do:
[17:11] <StarFlower> sudo ./NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-304.60.run --uninstall
[17:11] <StarFlower> If you have a different version, obviously, change the name. Now do:
[17:11] <StarFlower> sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-video-nouveau
[17:11] <StarFlower> sudo rm /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[17:11] <FloodBot1> StarFlower: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:11] <StarFlower> That last rm might fail; if it does, don't worry about it. It's just to ensure that if Nvidia installed a custom xorg.conf, you got it out of there.
[17:11] <wilee-nilee> mjayk, if you really know the problem and the answer help them, but I doubt you do, don't make it harder acting like you do.
[17:11] <g3ky> CatKiller, Yes, but any idea how I can automate that on a router?
[17:11] <Guest90289> i installed from drivers
[17:12] <Guest90289> additional drivers
[17:12] <mjayk> wilee-nilee: im not dont be an arse
[17:12] <StarFlower> From nvidia website?
[17:12] <CatKiller> g3k: By calling "iptables-save" or whatever it's called and editing the startup scripts. Have you tried #dlink if that exists?
[17:12] <wilee-nilee> !attitude | mjayk
[17:12] <mjayk> wilee-nilee: if you think you know it better feel free to use your words being helpful not arse like
[17:12] <Calinou> StarFlower: don't use the .run; use the repos
[17:13] <g3ky> CatKiller, Wish it did have iptables-save. There is no #dlink.
[17:13] <CatKiller> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo
[17:13] <CatKiller> iptables-save iptables-restore maybe?
[17:13] <trewq_> I was able to install turbostat. Downloaded the kernel source and run make (after installing msr module)
[17:13] <CatKiller> or iptables save
[17:13] <g3ky> CatKiller, tx =)
[17:14] <CatKiller> g3ky: What distro is this router on?
[17:14] <Yahuntu> i have ubuntu on my computers. i need to get gps navigation working in my car... which system would best work with ubuntu? (to then transfer data and all of that...)
[17:14] <wilee-nilee> mjayk, You were giving answers without knowing the problem, that was my only concern.
[17:14] <mjayk> wilee-nilee: well next time try to structure you words such that they help the situation and not the opposite
[17:15] <StarFlower> Calinou, if he installed from downloaded drivers shouldnt he use the script that came with them
[17:15] <g3ky> CatKiller, It's a firmware. Just a basic linux install I guess. But not open source.
[17:16] <CatKiller> g3ky: Came with the router? In any case you're probably in murky waters if you go and modify iptables and startup scripts on an embeddedplatform
[17:16] <Calinou> StarFlower: don't use drivers from nvidia.com, they are terrible
[17:16] <CatKiller> some weird stuff could happen
[17:16] <CatKiller> you could brick it :p
[17:16] <Calinou> use the repos, if you absolutely need an updated driver use xorg-edgers PPA
[17:16] <Guest90289> ok i have no clue what todo i cant log into my ubuntu after changing additional drivers
[17:17] <Guest90289> im on live cd now
[17:17] <Guest90289> but dont know how to fix
[17:17] <StarFlower> Guest92076, did you download drivers from nvidia website
[17:17] <g3ky> CatKiller, True, even if I can ssh, files under etc are not editable.
[17:17] <mjayk> Guest90289: Doing it on livecd isnt the way
[17:17] <tonyt> Guest90289 you said you got a blank screen on bootup ?
[17:17] <CatKiller> g3ky: You need to be root
[17:17] <Guest90289> yes i get blank screen
[17:18] <Guest90289> so i cant do anything
[17:18] <tonyt> press ctrl + alt + f2
[17:18] <tonyt> that should get you to a log in
[17:18] <Guest90289> ok ill restat
[17:18] <Guest90289> but i dont think it will work
[17:18] <Guest90289> be back soon i guess
[17:19] <g3ky> CatKiller, I'm root. But it seem to be writable by a predefined user --> "594".
[17:19] <CatKiller> Doesn't matter root ignores filepermission in general
[17:19] <CatKiller> or you can reset the permissions on any files
[17:20] <CatKiller> g3ky: Sounds like you shouldn't do it @:p
[17:21] <g3ky> =P
[17:22] <paulus68> root without knowing what to do can be very dangerous
[17:22] <fellayaboy> i see a description for multiuser mode that says ...does not configure network interfaces and does not export networks services...does that mean i wont be able to change the mac address on my network card if i run a script in that level?
[17:23] <module000> fellayaboy: no, it just means it won't start networking or network services(like NFS, SMB)
[17:23] <g3ky> CatKiller, The problem is .. "sh: cannot create textfile: Read-only file system".
[17:23] <fellayaboy> so then that would be the best time to change the mac address....before it uses network interfaces
[17:24] <fellayaboy> thanks module000
[17:24] <ezra-s> g3ky, mount it rw
[17:24] <module000> fellayaboy: no prob
[17:24] <CatKiller> g3ky: Ok so it's not a permission issue but the root filesystem is read only, probably has static files, and the config is rolled by another higher level program
[17:25] <CatKiller> g3ky: Don't mess with it you're not going to achieve much, apart from breaking the router OS.
[17:28]  * g3ky is scared now. 
[17:28] <g3ky> CatKiller, I guess, I will have to live with manually running iptables everytime. =/
[17:30] <bill_s> I just finished reinstalling my video drivers after an update screw-up, and now when I boot my (12.04 LTS) desktop I get to the UI login screen, with my usual full resolution and desktop background, but when I enter my password the screen goes dark and then reloads the login screen. I can run a Guest session OK, and I can log in at a VT using my password, but ... ?
[17:31] <bill_s> The only related thing I could find on askubuntu was related to file system encryption but I don't think I changed anything related to encryption
[17:32] <elyezer> If I add, remove or update interfaces in /etc/network/interfaces using a script how can I reload all configuration? Simply using service networking restart is not working
[17:33] <CatKiller> elyezer: On Ubuntu desktop "network manager" handles connections, so whatever you set in /etc gets overriden
[17:33] <CatKiller> elyezer: Is that desktop or server?
[17:35] <module000> bill_s: check your logs, both your local .xession and the syslog
[17:35] <elyezer> CatKiller: ubuntu server, now I'm running a virtual machine, after I will run this script on beaglebone black (arm based board)
[17:36] <bill_s> module000: how do I do that? where are they?
[17:36] <CatKiller> Ok strange then. Did you try "/etc/init.d/networking restart" otherwise?
[17:36] <module000> bill_s: .xsession is in your home folder (/home/yourusername), and your syslog is /var/log/syslog
[17:36] <elyezer> no
[17:36] <CatKiller> otherwise "ifup -a" should bring all the interfaces up
[17:36] <bill_s> module000: OK, thanks, I'll have a look right now
[17:37] <module000> bill_s: i'm walking away from the desk, so if you hve questions just ask the channel about what you find in there
[17:37] <bill_s> module000: will do
[17:37] <elyezer> CatKiller: do I need to down all, then edit the /etc/network/interfaces and finally up them?
[17:37] <Forza> ciao
[17:37] <CatKiller> elyezer: Nope, just up them
[17:38] <CatKiller> elyezer: And then run the "networking restart" script
[17:38] <lauratika> every time te monitor goes off a black line comes at the bottom and have to change settings of monitor to work again, any idea what can be the issue?
[17:38] <elyezer> CatKiller: just to give you some context, I have a server that sends the configuration to the client, then client need to updates its configuration
[17:38] <CatKiller> elyezer: yep, the hypervisor needs to send the config to the VM or something like that?
[17:38] <bill_s> I have no .xsession file in my /home/username directory
[17:39] <bill_s> and trying to cd to /var/log/syslog gives me "not a directory"
[17:40] <smolly> Im on a live cd with ubuntu 12.04 and im looking for the disc utility manager but cant find it?
[17:42] <TJ-> bill_s: "/var/log/syslog" is a file ... do "ls -latr /var/log/" to list all the logs files and directories, most recently changed last.
[17:43] <elyezer> CatKiller: the vm is only for testing purpose. There is a web application running at a public IP with clients configurations. Clients are booted (physical machine) using dhcp configuration and asks server to send its configuration. After receiving the configuration, client need to update its network config and apply those changes. PS. may be virtual interfaces to configure too
[17:44] <bill_s> TJ-: OK, /var/log/syslog does exist, and it's huge, and I'm not sure what I should be looking for in it
[17:44] <jaequery> anyone here familiar w/ setting a 90 day password expiration via PAM? i've updated the login.defs and it works for new users, but all the past users don't seem to take effect. any ideas?
[17:45] <CatKiller> elyezer: Well so is the problem that the interfaces are not up (not showing up in "ifconfig"), or that they are up but with the wrong IP address?
[17:46] <TJ-> bill_s: "syslog" records all the major system-level activities. To view it from a command-line the best way is to view it with a 'pager' such as "less" .. that way you can move around in the file and search for strings, easily. Eg. "less /var/log/syslog" then press "End" to go to the last entry in the file, then move up to viw recent actions. Pay attention to timestamps and try to match those with the exact time the errors you are researching occurred.
[17:47] <elyezer> CatKiller: eth0 is up with dhcp and needs to get a static ip but continues with dhcp address, this is the common scenario
[17:47] <piggah> hello
[17:47] <CatKiller> so /etc/network/interfaces are now ok but running /etc/init.d/networking restart doesn't update eth0?
[17:47] <elyezer> CatKiller: that is the point
[17:48] <TJ-> jaequery: Read "man shadow" regarding the "/etc/shadow" password file's fields. You'll notice that existing users have different values. You may want to alter those using "usermod -e" or similar
[17:48] <bill_s> TJ-: OK, I've tried, but I don't see anything that means anything to me
[17:49] <CatKiller> elyezer: Is that what is happening so?
[17:49] <TJ-> bill_s: Remind me of the core issue? Was it an nvidia graphics driver issue?
[17:49] <CatKiller> You ran this script
[17:49] <CatKiller> and eth0 didn't get updated?
[17:49] <piggah> ive broken my xserver on a 12.04 upgrade by activating a newer nvidia driver, (one was already installed). when i run startx I get "no screens found". Is there a way to revert to the previous nvidia driver i was using from the CLI?
[17:49] <jjjuui98> http://www.targetmap.com/viewer.aspx?reportId=3073
[17:50] <jaequery> TJ: i've used chage, is that not what i want?
[17:50] <bill_s> TJ-: core issue was nvidia drivers being incompatible after a 12.04 update. I found an item on askubuntu that showed me how to clear and reinstall the drivers. After following the instructions, I can boot to a login screen that has full resolution, but logging in just sends me back to the login screen (with no message about failure). I can log in at a VT using the same name and password
[17:51] <elyezer> CatKiller: yesm this is what happens
[17:51] <TJ-> jaequery: of course, that is the better way. You used "chage -E" ?
[17:52] <elyezer> CatKiller: here is an example https://dpaste.de/FCte. The ip is not changing and the virtual interface is getting up
[17:53] <jaequery> i used: chage -M 90 -m 0 -W 7 username
[17:53] <elyezer> is not getting up*
[17:53] <TJ-> bill_s: OK, best thing to do first is to identify which driver is in use. When the GUI X-server starts it write the driver info to "/var/log/Xorg.0.log" ... reading that should reveal which driver is in use and if any errors have occurred. Errors are marked with "(EE)", warnings with "(WW)" and general info with "(II)"
[17:54] <elyezer> if I reboot all work well, but I don't like to reboot because the configuration could change
[17:55] <CatKiller> elyezer: Did you try "ifdown -a" and "ifup -a"?
[17:57] <TJ-> jaequery: Is the 3rd column of "/etc/shadow" empty for those users? That is the "date of last password change". An empty field means aging is disabled.
[17:57] <bill_s> TJ-: no errors, only a few warnings at the start like not being able to find a cyrillic font folder. version seems to be 304.88 of the nvidia driver
[17:58] <jaequery> ya looks like this username:$1$D1fogXky$4x5/xqSPwSN21ifjcQFFe.:15972:0:99999:7:::
[17:58] <bill_s> TJ-: but note that I can log in as Guest and everything looks fine, so the graphics seem to be OK at least superficially
[17:59] <TJ-> bill_s: OK ... I'm just covering the bases to ensure we don't get caught out.
[17:59] <bill_s> TJ-: right
[17:59] <neyder> hi there, i'm trying to launch kiwix from a desktop launcher as a daemon but it doesn't load, only if I get a terminal opened with verbose mode
[17:59] <neyder> some suggestions?
[17:59] <TJ-> bill_s: You checked for a stale "~/.Xauthority" ?
[18:00] <bill_s> TJ-: no, never heard of it
[18:01] <TJ-> bill_s: I got hit by the same issue earlier (after installing 13.10 with encrypted home) and it turned out (from reading "/var/log/lightdm/*" logs) that it was caused by some kind of password mismatch causing a failure to unwrap the encrpyted home's passphrase. I deleted the user account and recreated it, which fixed it. I'm not suggesting you do that!! but wonder if you might be seeing the same cause?
[18:02] <bill_s> TJ-: no idea
[18:03] <epsilonorion> Having issues with my wifi.  I can ping the internet, however, I can not ping any of my local machines.  Any ideas where to start looking to solve the problem?
[18:04] <TJ-> bill_s: What do you see for this: "ls -l /home/$USER/.Xauthority" - replace "$USER" with the user's name ... you should see permissions "-rw-------"
[18:05] <ezra-s> epsilonorion, DSL router with AP isolation on?
[18:05] <j0llyr0tten> just a niggly question: when i resume from suspend i get this black screen of white informational/debugging text or buffer that flashes me before i get X and the password box. any ideas what it is?
[18:05] <epsilonorion> no, just a netgear router with no modification
[18:05] <jdoles> So... I start my computer and Ubuntu shows a cursor, and that's it.
[18:05] <bill_s> TJ-: yes, that's what I get
[18:05] <CatKiller> epsilonorion: Not really a Ubuntu question though :p
[18:06] <ezra-s> epsilonorion, let me rephrase it, have you checked the wifi configuration for ap isolation?
[18:06] <jdoles> Instead of a cursor I was expecting to see something like lightdm.
[18:06] <jdoles> I am running 12.04 LTS exactly to *not* have these kind of basic issues.
[18:06] <epsilonorion> CatKiller: sorry, I figured it would be since all computers in my house can ping each other besides this one ubuntu machine
[18:06] <TJ-> bill_s: You're at a terminal right now, yes? If so, and you don't have a GUI session for that user logged-in, do "rm .Xauthority" to remove that file, then try logging-in again from the GUI
[18:06] <quantumpants> hi guys, Im having problems getting VLC to play dvd's? any ideas?
[18:07] <CatKiller> epsilonorion: You did not mention this important info before :p
[18:07] <CatKiller> epsilonorion: And they all join the same network name (not a "guest" one or anything?)
[18:07] <TJ-> bill_s: If that works it might not be a permanent fix since I'm reading there's some underlying cause that causes it to come back, but at least it'd give you a way to work around it until its solved.
[18:07] <epsilonorion> ezra-s: it is disabled by default and I haven't changed it
[18:07] <epsilonorion> all the same
[18:08] <CatKiller> epsilonorion: And the Ubuntu machine can't ping the other nodes in the network that can ping each other fine?
[18:08] <ezra-s> epsilonorion, yeah, latest statement about all other machines being able to ping each other add some revealing info...
[18:08] <epsilonorion> CatKiller: yes.  It can't, but the others can
[18:08] <CatKiller> can you do "route -n" and paste it somewhere
[18:08] <CatKiller> as well as "iptables -L"?
[18:09] <epsilonorion> they attempt to ping the machine, however, they just sit there
[18:09] <TJ-> epsilonorion: pastebin the output of "ip route ls && cat /etc/resolv.conf"
[18:09] <CatKiller> No but what happens when you ping *from* Ubuntu on the other machines (that can ping each other fine)?
[18:09] <mhd> How do i change mouse sensitivity in the x direction, separate of the y direction?
[18:09] <bill_s> TJ-: that got me to my desktop!  Thank you so much
[18:09] <TJ-> epsilonorion: Are you trying to ping the other PCs by their name, or by their IP. Try with their IPs. If that works, then your issue is DNS name resolution.
[18:10] <epsilonorion> simply ip
[18:10] <epsilonorion> I am ignoring my custom host file at the moment
[18:10] <TJ-> bill_s: Great. Remember that fix... because I haven't identified a complete resolution in any bug report so far.
[18:10] <bill_s> TJ-: right
[18:10] <TJ-> epsilonorion: Can the other PCs ping the Ubuntu PC?
[18:11] <bill_s> TJ-: I'm thinking of replacing this particular box anyway, maybe a good time to move ahead on that
[18:11] <epsilonorion> and now it is randomly back again
[18:11] <epsilonorion> yes
[18:11] <epsilonorion> TJ-: actually, originally no
[18:11] <orogor> kernel 3.11 is only for ubuntu saucy  right ?
[18:11] <TJ-> bill_s: OK, but the issue is more general than the specific PC so you may still hit it :(
[18:11] <epsilonorion> but now it can all of hte sudden
[18:11] <bill_s> TJ-: right
[18:11] <epsilonorion> *the
[18:11] <jdoles> lightdm is running, but it looks like kdm?
[18:11] <TJ-> epsilonorion: What WiFi network is it? 802.11n?
[18:12] <epsilonorion> TJ-: yes, 802.11n
[18:12] <jdoles> epsilonorion: most likely you have just misconfigured your network.
[18:12] <TJ-> epsilonorion: What wifi hardware in the PC? Intel by any chance?
[18:12] <jdoles> Hardware is almost never broken.
[18:12] <epsilonorion> TJ-: Intel
[18:12] <jdoles> Probality(human failure) >> Probablity(electronics without moving parts failing)
[18:12] <epsilonorion> jdoles: possibly, but same settings I have in both my desktop ubuntu system and laptop vm ubuntu setup
[18:13] <TJ-> epsilonorion: There's a well-known problem with Intel iwlwifi device driver where 802.11n stalls. pastebin us the output of "iwconfig wlan0" and look at the  last line about retries and invalids
[18:13] <Fanatic89> kdm is disabled by bios always apears on start up, what can i do?
[18:13] <DoctorWedgeworth> how do I boot into a shell instead of GUI? Normally I'd boot into runlevel 3, but Ubuntu looks to have renumbered 5 to 2 and made 3 4 5 the same?
[18:13] <Fanatic89> *kvm
[18:13] <jdoles> epsilonorion: if two machines share the same ip there is a big problem.
[18:13] <jdoles> epsilonorion: I don't know whether that's the case here.
[18:13] <epsilonorion> all settings but the same ip.
[18:13] <epsilonorion> network ssid, etc.
[18:14] <epsilonorion> router shows it connected and alive with its own ip
[18:14] <TJ-> epsilonorion: show us the pastebins I requested
[18:14] <TJ-> epsilonorion: The workaround on the iwlwifi drivers is to disable 'n' mode in the driver so it doesn't do MIMO... limits throughput to 54Mbps but at least it works.
[18:15] <epsilonorion> TJ-: first, the iwconfig, shows 0 retries and invalids
[18:15] <epsilonorion> setting up route now
[18:15] <Fanatic89> when i start my ubuntu there is always a message "kvm is disabled by bios" what can i do?
[18:15] <TJ-> epsilonorion: And "wlan0" is the correct interface? What Bit Rate is it showing for the connection?
[18:15] <CatKiller> Fanatic89: Are you using KVM?
[18:15] <TJ-> Fanatic89: Enter BIOS at power-on and enable Virtualisation
[18:16] <jdoles> Fanatic89: you tell whoever wrote that code to write better error messages.
[18:16] <jdoles> Fanatic89: the error message is completely wrong.
[18:16] <i00nsu_> Fanatic89: be sere your processor have that feature
[18:16] <i00nsu_> sure*
[18:16] <CatKiller> probably no need to enable it really
[18:16] <Fanatic89> what means kvm?
[18:16] <i00nsu_> Fanatic89: using qemu ?
[18:17] <jdoles> Fanatic89: they should have said "you have disabled the virtualization extentions in your BIOS. Restart your computer and configure the BIOS such that it is enabled."
[18:17] <TJ-> Fanatic89: Kernel Virtual Machine ... CPU hardware acceleration support for virtual machines
[18:17] <jdoles> No.
[18:17] <jdoles> KVM is a Linux implementation (so, _software_) which is supported by hardware extensions.
[18:17] <Fanatic89> okay i will try that! thank you!
[18:18] <jdoles> There are multiple virtual machine implementations on Linux.
[18:18] <epsilonorion> TJ-: The interface is "wlan5" - http://pastebin.com/jw6d5HdT
[18:18] <jdoles> Xen is another.
[18:18] <jdoles> Fanatic89: but all of this stuff can be found on wikipedia.
[18:18] <TJ-> epsilonorion: haha! so the iwconfig you mentioned was for that interface, not the wlan0 I suggested?
[18:18] <epsilonorion> no, it was for "wlan5"
[18:19] <epsilonorion> bit rate is 72 Mb/s
[18:19] <TJ-> epsilonorion: First thing I notice is there's no default route configured. If the other PCs are in the 192.168.1.0/24 subnet then that shouldn't be an issue, but it would prevent Internet access.
[18:20] <DoctorWedgeworth> jdoles: that's in the kernle
[18:20] <DoctorWedgeworth> *kernel
[18:20] <DoctorWedgeworth> that code
[18:20] <epsilonorion> They are all in the same subnet
[18:21] <TJ-> epsilonorion: OK, well if the TX retires/Invalids go up the issue would be the one I described. As it doesn't seem to be, then you need to monitor the interface from another terminal to see what is happening whilst you try pinging, etc. "sudo tcpdump -vvvni wlan5"
[18:23] <epsilonorion> TJ-: I can do that.  I will also try to disable N as you were suggestion.  Thanks for the help and sorry for the trouble
[18:23] <TJ-> epsilonorion: We're here to solve the issues, don't apologise.
[18:24] <rotham> hey.. i accidentally loaded my rsa keys into a public git repo (stupid i know).. anything I should do for security besides reseting all ssh keys on services/servers i use?
[18:24] <rotham> and changing my own key
[18:25] <alexander007> ich habe keine probleme :)
[18:25] <DJones> !de | alexander007
[18:26] <TJ-> epsilonorion: The disabling of N is done as a parameter to the IWL driver. "11n_disable:disable"
[18:26] <orogor> rotham, i am unsure you can revoke it , like for pgp
[18:26] <scavmartin> I need some rpm build help on ubuntu. I am trying to build a rpm and it keeps on messing up the --buildroot directory and looks for it "/usr/local/TeamCity/rpm/BUILDROOT/silveragent_sa-1.59.0-rc0.29399.x86_64/opt/srt/packages/silveragent_sa-1.59.0-rc0.29399" when it is just in the ending "/opt/srt/packages/silveragent_sa-1.59.0-rc0.29399" directory. When I add a --buildroot /tmp to see how it draws the paths I get it going
[18:26] <scavmartin> "/tmp/opt/srt/packages/silveragent_sa-1.59.0-rc0.29399" so I want a --buildroot / but it does not allow / to be buildroot. How do I get around this?
[18:27] <rotham> :|
[18:30] <grex25> Someone has an answer? http://askubuntu.com/questions/351970/laptop-lid-closed-with-external-monitor
[18:31] <Dr_Willis> grex25:  you did search askubunbtu.com first befor posting a new question? seems most everything ive ever seen asked lately has been asked befor on the site.
[18:32] <Dr_Willis> and i do seem to recall i had a laptop i could close the lid and the system would still run (with the lcd off) but that was 2+ years ago.
[18:32] <grex25> Dr_Willis: As you can see, I already search Bug requests and so on.
[18:32] <TJ-> grex25: Yes, it's a well known and annoying issue with Gnome and Unity. I gave up trying to create patches for it a year or more ago
[18:32] <Dr_Willis> I cant see anything. Im on a console only system.
[18:32] <Dr_Willis> ;)
[18:33] <grex25> Dr_Willis: Gnome, shame on you
[18:34]  * Dr_Willis goes on haxoring his raspberry-pi.
[18:41] <Rory> rotham: That sounds reasonable, make sure that key is not authorised to log in ANYWHERE
[18:41] <Rory> rotham: And don't feel too bad about it being a stupid mistake; I typed my Freenode password in #ubuntu once
[18:41] <DoctorWedgeworth> trying to connect a USB hard drive and I keep getting connect-debounce failed, port 1 disabled  - how can I fix this?
[18:41] <rotham> Rory: lol thanks
[18:42] <Rory> DoctorWedgeworth: What Ubuntu version are you using?
[18:42] <DoctorWedgeworth> Rory: raring with mint olivia, kernel 3.8.0-25-generic
[18:43] <ArielX_> #linux-mint
[18:43] <DoctorWedgeworth> isn't this likely to be a kernel issue rather than a front-end issue?
[18:44] <TJ-> DoctorWedgeworth: See bug #1177289
[18:44] <Quintaessentia> Hello there.
[18:45] <Rory> DoctorWedgeworth: Raring with Mint Olivia what does that mean?
[18:45] <Rory> !mint | DoctorWedgeworth
[18:46] <DoctorWedgeworth> didn't Ubuntu package this kernel? I expected I'd find more help here than there. Are there any workarounds to that bug that you're aware of?
[18:46] <scavmartin> anyone?
[18:47] <Quintaessentia> Having lot of troubles tryng to auto mount --bind an external usb HDD on every startup. The goal is to have some FTP directories fusionated inside one users chroot jail. I've tryed almost every howto on inet, from fstab to custom scripts and rc.local entrys too... no luck at all, anyone have some light, please?
[18:47] <TJ-> DoctorWedgeworth: Try http://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.php?f=49&t=47205
[18:47] <DoctorWedgeworth> yeah I saw that, thanks TJ-. I'm waiting for mdraid to rebuild before I try a reboot but I'll give it a go. It's a desktop so I shouldn't have any problems with batteries :)
[18:48] <Quintaessentia> Seems like the usb HDD is not ready on startup, and so it fails mounting and binding.
[18:48] <TJ-> DoctorWedgeworth: I've found that has been a quick and easy solution when my kit has been affected by that issue, some months ago now
[18:49] <TJ-> Quintaessentia: Maybe it needs some kernel-module loading early, from initrd? usbusb-storage or similar?
[18:52] <Quintaessentia> I used some script on /init.d with no luck. Not used usuusb-storage
[18:55] <TJ-> Quintaessentia: usually you need to add the module name to "/etc/initramfs-tools/modules" and update the initrd and reboot
[18:55] <TJ-> Quintaessentia: *if* that is the reason. I'd suggest you read "/var/log/dmesg" to see when the USB drive is being recognised
[18:58] <Quintaessentia> Thanks TJ, will look further on that.
[19:01] <Kalel> Greetings. I would like to know wich version of Netwwork Manager or Modem Manager for 3G is ubuntu 13.04 using. I have a problem. Later Updated my system, my 3g device isnt recognized.
[19:02] <Kalel> I want to download the package and install it offline.
[19:03] <rkrishna> Hi, I am getting a error "unable to handle kernel paging request" trying to install a video capture card, any ideas>
[19:04] <Kalel> Dr_Willis: Can you help me today, Dr.?
[19:07] <jhutchins> rkrishna: Are you low on RAM?  Is there a problem with your swap partition?
[19:08] <jhutchins> rkrishna: Are you trying to install a package from the manufacturer that supports the card?
[19:08] <jhutchins> Kalel: dpkg -l network-manager should show you what version it is.
[19:09] <farbod> اه
[19:09] <farbod> hi
[19:09] <jhutchins> Kalel: I may have the exact package name wrong.
[19:09] <farbod> my laptop get hot!!!!
[19:09] <farbod> what can i do?
[19:09] <farbod> im new in ubuntu
[19:09] <farbod> i use before windows 8
[19:09] <jhutchins> farbod: Do you have the power manager applet?
[19:10] <farbod> what is it?
[19:10] <jhutchins> farbod: Probably a battery-like icon near the clock.
[19:11] <Moseco> I am running Ubuntu 13.04, i installed the latest update and i rebooted, when i entered my password and logged in i only see a black screen and my cursor. Any fixes?
[19:11] <Kalel> jhutchins: Are you using ubuntu 13.04?
[19:11] <jhutchins> farbod: This might help: http://itsfoss.com/solve-overheating-issue-battery-life-ubuntu-1304/
[19:12] <Rory> Moseco: Reboot, and hold Shift while your system starts, until you see the boot menu. Select an older version of the kernel from the list and see if that boots. Let me know if it does
[19:12] <Moseco> Rory: Ok
[19:12] <jhutchins> Kalel: Looks like I'm still on 12.04.
[19:13] <Kalel> jhutchins: Can you give the package name? I want to download but I am in a 12.04 lts Live CD. i think isnt the relative version.
[19:13] <Kalel> network-manage 0.9.4.0-0ubunt network managemen
[19:14] <onefix_work> so, if I put iwconfig ... sleep 3 ... wpa_supplicant ... sleep 3 ... dhclient in /etc/rc.local, wireless works, but if I try putting it in /etc/network/interfaces, it doesn't.  Is this normal?
[19:14] <nikolai> Hello
[19:14] <ikonia> onefix_work: interfaces file is not a script so won't respond to "sleep"
[19:14] <jhutchins> Kalel: You're missing a letter there, but yes, that's it. I hvae 0.9.4.0-ubuntu4.3
[19:16] <zykotick9> onefix_work: adding to ikonia's above statement, dhclient doesn't belong in /etc/network/interfaces either...  care to share what you tried in /e/n/interfaces?
[19:16] <onefix_work> ikonia: I know that. I'm putting it in the proper /etc/network/interfaces format including wpa_supplicant in the pre script
[19:16] <ikonia> onefix_work: putting it in the interfaces file, does put the required pauses in the services,
[19:16] <jhutchins> !interfaces
[19:17] <onefix_work> auto wlan0
[19:17] <onefix_work> iface wlan0 inet dhcp
[19:17] <onefix_work>     wpa-conf /etc/wpa_supplicant/wpa_supplicant.conf
[19:17] <onefix_work> I know the difference in the interfaces file, but like I said, it's not working...
[19:18] <jhutchins> onefix_work: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WPAHowTo
[19:19] <ikonia> onefix_work: yes, and I've explained why
[19:19] <zykotick9> onefix_work: i've only used wpa-ssid and wpa-psk in my interfaces... I didn't know about wpa-conf
[19:19] <ikonia> onefix_work: the interfaces file will not put a pause in the service if it needs one, it will just configure them as the init script runs them, if one of them needs a pause because it's slow confiugring, you'll need to put that into the init script
[19:19]  * vlt loves inotify
[19:20] <onefix_work> Too bad Ubuntu doesn't have a command line (curses) configuration tool like RHEL/Centos...
[19:20] <ikonia> why ? what would that do to help ?
[19:21] <zykotick9> onefix_work: i agree, about the curses config tool missing
[19:21] <jhutchins> I think he wants something that will warn about bad syntax or something.
[19:21] <ikonia> why do you think it's the interfaces file ?
[19:21] <onefix_work> ikonia: Well, I see that linked article is talking about 6.10 ... I'm guessing since it's not been updated that it's still good, but the command line tools provided by RHEL / Centos makes hardware config real easy/
[19:22] <jhutchins> WTF is wrong with vi?
[19:22] <ikonia> you've shown the config is right, it's probably just one of the services starting to quick so the card is not ready to be configured
[19:22] <ikonia> !wtf> jhutchins
[19:22] <Kalel> jhutchins: Thank you.
[19:22] <onefix_work> ikonia: Is there any way to tell the config to wait at all?
[19:23] <blazeme8> Hi, I'm following this guide as part of installing alsa (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Audio/InstallingLinuxAlsaDriverModules) but when I run the install command I get: "E: Unable to locate package linux-alsa-driver-modules-3.8.0-19-generic". How can I fix this?
[19:23] <jhutchins> ikonia: Sorry, didn't know the standards.
[19:23] <ikonia> onefix_work: no, as I said earlier, you'll need to put sleeps in the init script to see if that fixes it, then remove them one at a time to find out which script needs the sleep
[19:23]  * jhutchins is in a decidedly uncivil mood today and should probably go read a book.
[19:23] <ikonia> onefix_work: if that doesn't fix it, you move into the next stage of debugging
[19:23] <onefix_work> ikonia: Oh, ok.  Thanks
[19:23] <narcos> Hi all. I'd like to export a single GUI program from my Ubuntu via a web browser. e.g. the solitaire binary via a browser from another machine. Is this possible?
[19:24] <Kalel> ikonia: Sre you a regular ubuntu user?
[19:24] <onefix_work> ikonia: Like I said, my manual rc.local script works.  I just had problems with /etc/network/interfaces...that's kind of where my debugging went to begin with :)
[19:24] <bprompt> narcos:    send a binary to someone else through the browser?
[19:25] <ikonia> onefix_work: yes, and you've approached it well,
[19:25] <narcos> bprompt: Rather, some kind of RDP/VNC setup
[19:25] <narcos> But just for a single program, not the whole desktop
[19:25] <narcos> and via the browser, not a thick client
[19:26] <narcos> BRB
[19:26] <springwater> Would it be possible with a program or alteration batch type to be able to make non primary monitors "2 of them" to go blank? IE if im watching a video on primary monitor and not using the other 2. Some times I am away from the pc a distance and not at the desk to manually turn them off.
[19:27] <springwater> I have tried googling this query with no results
[19:28] <blazeme8> Does anyone know of a guide for installing alsa on ubuntu server
[19:28] <ikonia> blazeme8: open the package manager, search for alsa, install package
[19:28] <blazeme8> i have the alsa package installed. but it doesn't work
[19:29] <ikonia> springwater: look at setting dpms on / off,
[19:29] <ikonia> blazeme8: define "doesn't work"
[19:29] <springwater> will that turn off all monitors or give me the ability to blank or disable specific ones
[19:29] <blazeme8> ikonia: no sound, cannot adjust levels in alsamixer
[19:30] <ikonia> springwater: dpms is per monitor, so you should be able to do it per monitor
[19:30] <ikonia> blazeme8: is there a device file for the sound card ?
[19:30] <blazeme8> ikonia: /dev/snd/seq and /dev/snd/timer? and the sound device shows up in lspci.
[19:30] <ikonia> blazeme8: is alsa-mixer looking at those devices ?
[19:31] <bprompt> blazeme8:   what' s the original issue you'd be seeking to install alsa for?
[19:31] <zykotick9> blazeme8: seeing anything in "cat /proc/asound/cards"?
[19:31] <zolli> excuseme for bad english...  help...  can someone help me?
[19:31] <zolli> The problem is a green screen showed when playing video...
[19:31] <blazeme8>  /proc/asound doesn't exist, and I can't even open alsamixer
[19:31] <blazeme8> The error for alsamixer is: cannot open mixer: No such file or directory
[19:31] <ikonia> blazeme8: what happens when you try to open alsa-mixer ?
[19:31] <springwater> would it per say sleep the other monitors if a mouse does not breach their space?
[19:31] <ikonia> blazeme8: do you have it installed ?
[19:32] <blazeme8> ikonia: alsamixer? yes
[19:32] <blazeme8> which alsamixer reports where it is
[19:32] <ikonia> blazeme8: so you need to look at what device file it's trying to access
[19:32] <bprompt> zolli:     more info like, what you were doing before this happened would help
[19:32] <ikonia> springwater: you'd have to check the dpms spec, I don't know without looking myself
[19:32] <blazeme8> ikonia: how do I do that?
[19:33] <ikonia> blazeme8: look at the config file ?
[19:33] <zolli> ok, bprompt, i have detail... ...
[19:33] <blazeme8> Where is it?
[19:33] <ikonia> blazeme8: etc somewhere
[19:33] <Hathadar> I am looking at a script on vim.org where it lists a url for a repository.  Can I use this with apt-get?
[19:33] <zolli> -totem work fine
[19:33] <zolli> -VLC work fine, but in vlc is necessary set video option like this  http://zolli.altervista.org/tmp/3.png  or default but whith no acceleration
[19:33] <zolli> -kdenlive work fine, but is necessary set video option like this: http://zolli.altervista.org/tmp/4.png  (work also X11 ) i have installed UBUNTU 13.04 64 bit from 24h, no manual setting on library or other.
[19:34] <ikonia> Hathadar: depends on what's in the repository
[19:34] <ikonia> Hathadar: I have no idea why you need a repository from vim.org though
[19:34] <ikonia> Hathadar: vim is available in the standard ubuntu repos
[19:34] <blazeme8> ikonia: the only alsa config I have is /etc/default/alsa
[19:34] <zolli> openshot--->green box on video
[19:34] <Hathadar> ikonia, I am looking for scripts to install for vim.
[19:34] <blazeme8> Which only has stuff about loading modules, not which device alsa is looking for.
[19:34] <bprompt> springwater:    https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Display_Power_Management_Signaling#Turn_off_screen_immediately
[19:34] <ikonia> Hathadar: open the package manager, and install vim
[19:34] <ikonia> Hathadar: vim is available in the ubuntu repos, you don't need external sources
[19:34] <blazeme8> alsa
[19:35] <blazeme8> oops
[19:35] <zykotick9> blazeme8: if you don't have /proc/asound i'm guessing ALSA is either A) not installed or B) you have rebooted your system...
[19:35] <Hathadar> ikonia, I have vim.  I am looking at scripts for it.
[19:35] <ikonia> scripts for vim ? it's a text editor
[19:35] <zykotick9> blazeme8: s/you have/you haven't/
[19:35] <blazeme8> zykotick9: i ran 'apt-get install alsa alsa-tools alsa-mixer' and rebooted.
[19:36] <Jordan_U> ikonia: There are various vim scripts for performing certain tasks.
[19:36] <ikonia> you mean macros
[19:36] <zykotick9> blazeme8: is alsa-base currently installed?  "apt-cache policy alsa-base"
[19:36] <springwater> the thing im trying to get is a way by me doing a hotkey or auto sleep on other monitors and leave the primary monitor on ie whjen im watching a tv show
[19:36] <blazeme8> zykotick9: yep, i have: 1.0.25+dfsg-0ubuntu4
[19:37] <zykotick9> blazeme8: have you rebooted since all these installs?
[19:37] <blazeme8> yes, several times zykotick9
[19:37] <zykotick9> blazeme8: ok, just checkin'
[19:37] <blazeme8> I think I need the kernel module(s) for sound. The guide I linked initially is about installing those.
[19:37] <blazeme8> But that guide is broken.
[19:38] <sqrt_> greetings .. uhm can anyone tell me what kind of pipe this is? "sudo tee /sys/block/sdX/queue/scheduler <<< noop"
[19:38] <zykotick9> blazeme8: does "lsmod | grep snd" return a list of stuff?
[19:38] <springwater> for a better explenation of what im trying to get is. in windows what im on now there is a multi monitor software that has ability to make 1 or more monitor turn to screen saver / blank by a hot hey in my situation i picked control s
[19:38] <blazeme8> zykotick9: no, nothing. i dont have the module
[19:39] <zykotick9> blazeme8: are you on ubuntu-server?  if so, you might want to ask how to get sound working in #ubuntu-server ???  best of luck regardless.
[19:40] <blazeme8> Yeah, I said that initially. I didn't know there was a channel for each version.
[19:41] <springwater> maybe putting a bash file on each of the 2 monitors when i click the they turn off monitor
[19:41] <springwater> but how would i reenable them
[19:42] <ikonia> springwater: run the script from the "on" monitor to turn off the others
[19:42] <ikonia> springwater: and then run the turn on script from the "on" monitor to turn them back on
[19:42] <AndChat465716> ikonia: liar
[19:42] <ikonia> AndChat465716: what ?
[19:43] <springwater> which script exactly
[19:43] <springwater> the arch page someone posted
[19:43] <ikonia> springwater: the one I suggested you write to enable/disable dpms
[19:43] <springwater> oh that was a code
[19:43] <springwater> i thought you meant to search it in google
[19:43] <springwater> my mistake
[19:44] <zykotick9> springwater: have you seen if xrandr has some option for that?  if you use nvidia/ati you may need to use there provided tool(s)?  good luck.
[19:44] <springwater> i tried that
[19:44] <bprompt> zolli:     anything you've done lately, do you only get the "green screen" in VLC or any player you use when doing playback?
[19:44] <springwater> but was able to only sleep all monitors
[19:44] <ikonia> springwater: dpms is a monitor option, that I suggested you set enable/disable on individual monitors to try to blank/unblank them
[19:45] <springwater> oh you mean in the actual monitor
[19:45] <gregor3005> hi, i use virtualbox 4.2.10 in ubuntu 13 and installed the usb extension but in an windows 7 vm there is no usb device available :-(
[19:45] <zykotick9> ikonia: i'm usually fighting to disable ALL dpms stuff.  funny to see it being used for good ;)
[19:45] <ikonia> zykotick9: agreed,
[19:46] <Hathadar> How do I merge folders from a .zip onto my harddrive?  the default archive manager has checkboxes for re-create folders and overwrite existing files which give the impression my folders will be replaced and not merged.
[19:47] <wilee-nilee> gregor3005: you set up the usb in  box preferences as well?
[19:47] <zolli> bprompt: only geen box if i don't set option for video output...  please see my ifnormation on https://answers.launchpad.net/openshot/+question/236604  (all detail....)
[19:47] <gregor3005> wilee-nilee: yes i enabled it
[19:48] <wilee-nilee> gregor3005: you in the vbox group?
[19:48] <gregor3005> wilee-nilee: ah i check it
[19:49] <springwater> only one of the 2 have a sleep but its lowest is 30 minutes
[19:49] <jluc> hello
[19:49] <wilee-nilee> gregor3005: here is a link if needed. https://forums.virtualbox.org/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=49529
[19:49] <lalala2354>  /join #cdelu
[19:50] <gregor3005> wilee-nilee: thanks
[19:50] <wilee-nilee> No problem
[19:54] <bprompt> zolli:    right... my "video output" uses "default" .... and videos play fine for me .... can't say I've bothered with other video output drivers unless I really have to
[19:54] <zykotick9> zolli: so, is the default video output (with the green screen) called xv?  bprompt
[19:55] <bprompt> zykotick9:    http://zolli.altervista.org/tmp/3.png   <-- that's zolli 's settings
[19:56] <zykotick9> bprompt: i've already looked at that, issue one it's not english and issue two it doesn't answer my question (you have non-default config there)
[19:57] <econdudeawesome> Howdy. Looking to figure out how to replicate some Nautilus behavior in the command line. Using Nautilus I can connect to a remote server via SSH then launch a text file into any text editor I want. Say my file is called text.py. What CLI command could I use to launch sublime-text to open the file on a remote server?
[19:57]  * zykotick9 likes mplayer's -vo options, list all with "mplayer -vo help"
[19:57] <econdudeawesome> Note: sublime-text is not installed remotely, and Im not using ssh -x
[19:58] <zolli> bprompt: on VLC "default output with "accelerated" flag make green video, if i set other option (like X11) is OK; OK if i deselect accelerated...  but TOTEM is always OK, opneshot is always green...
[19:59] <zykotick9> econdudeawesome: i'd personally A) use a console text editor or B) scp the file back to the local system
[19:59] <econdudeawesome> zykotick9: sure, I can do that. But what I'd really like to know _how_ to do is replicate the nautilus behavior, if its not too complex on the backend
[20:00] <econdudeawesome> even if I'm using vim or nano on the host machine rather than the remote machine, it'd be nice to know *how* to launch it as such
[20:00] <zykotick9> econdudeawesome: i'd guess nautilus is using ssh as an sshfs of some sort, kinda difficult to replicate...
[20:00] <no_gravity> econdudeawesome: i would use sshfs
[20:01] <econdudeawesome> no_gravity: oooh. This is the first I've heard of the utility. Thanks
[20:01] <no_gravity> zykotick9: not difficult. its just sshfs host:/ mount/point/
[20:01] <bprompt> zolli:   then... one can say is just the player, if totem works with such options, and you want them, so use Totem :)    why do you want the "OpenGL" drivers loaded anyway?
[20:01] <econdudeawesome> no_gravity: I seem to have no man entry for sshfs. Is it: $ <text editor launch> sshfs host:/mount/point/stuff ?
[20:02] <zykotick9> no_gravity: well, that's PART of the puzzel.  now open it will a local application ;)  for bonus points - all in one step as econdudeawesome wants ;)
[20:02] <econdudeawesome> no_gravity: huh, no sshfs installed yet, so I guess that's not what nautilus is doing
[20:02] <no_gravity> econdudeawesome: $ sshfs host:/ /mount/point/file.txt; texteditor /mount/point/file.txt
[20:02] <Jordan_U> econdudeawesome: You need to install it. You can also access GNOME VFS Mounts made from nautilus in ~/.gvfs.
[20:02] <no_gravity> econdudeawesome: apt-get install sshfs
[20:02] <no_gravity> zykotick9: in one go: sshfs host:/ /mount/point/file.txt; texteditor /mount/point/file.txt
[20:03] <wylde> econdudeawesome: I'm pretty sure nautilus uses gvfs to make an sshfs like mount in ~/.gvfs then opens the file locally
[20:03] <econdudeawesome> Jordan_U: good to know. no_gravity: installing as we speak. How does gvfs work then?
[20:03] <econdudeawesome> wylde: neat!
[20:03] <Jordan_U> entangled|home: So after connecting to the server with Nautilus, "sublime-text ~/.gvfs/share_name/path/to/file.txt".
[20:04] <zykotick9> no_gravity: ;) ya i saw the origional.  i haven't used sshfs in forever, but i wasn't a big fan...  i use nfs locally so not really an issue for me...
[20:04] <raven> Hey guys. on 12.04 I see Ubuntu is using compiz to make the unity interface. In the window previews when you have more than one window open and it shows you tiles, is there a way to get labels on those? I've got no idea what they are until I click on them. Anything I can do in CCSM?
[20:04] <zolli> bprompt: i want video editing....  openshot is simple. i think, for VLC, is not normal condition setting for work this options....
[20:05] <econdudeawesome> wylde: twist: no gvfs?
[20:05] <no_gravity> zykotick9: im using sshfs for years now every day on many servers. its fucking stable.
[20:05] <IdleOne> no need for the swearing
[20:05] <wylde> econdudeawesome: it's hidden. Notice the .gvfs in /home/$USER
[20:06] <econdudeawesome> wylde: i should be able to see it at ls -a ~/ ?
[20:06] <wylde> econdudeawesome: yes
[20:06] <econdudeawesome> wylde: fair enough. Nothing there, so not sure what protocol Nautilus is using
[20:07] <econdudeawesome> (I'm in ubuntu 12.10 built up from minimal, Nautilus is installed but usually run with --no-desktop, DE is xmonad)
[20:08] <zykotick9> econdudeawesome: do you have automounting of any sort?  usb drives and such?
[20:08] <bprompt> zolli:    yeap, I'd say that's pretty much it, the drivers or handling of those drivesr is a bit buggy
[20:10] <zolli> bprompt:I must therefore give up openshot? there is a workaround for that?  :'(
[20:12] <zykotick9> zolli: fyi, many years ago - i had a similar problem.  and at the time there was some way to change the default gstreamer output so something that worked (so totem,openshot,etc) could work.  but i've LONG forgotten the details (and i'd doubt they'd still work)
[20:12] <_Hjorth> join #xubuntu
[20:12] <econdudeawesome> zykotick9: yes
[20:13] <bprompt> zolli:    well.... a workaround would be to .... say use Mplayer or some other player in this specific instance, then again, there are other video editors like Avidemux
[20:14] <ArielX_> hello
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[20:14] <econdudeawesome> no_gravity: how do I desclare a host?
[20:14] <springwater> i am quite fond of avidemux myself
[20:14] <zykotick9> econdudeawesome: ok, wasn't sure with the build up from mini you described ;)  i don't...
[20:14] <zolli> zykotick9: i have tested gstreamer-properties...  but oneshot STILL green...
[20:15] <zykotick9> zolli: and you don't find any way to change oneshot's "video output"?  i don't use it myself.
[20:15] <zolli> zykotick9: and test video is ok (how i have reported in post openshot)
[20:15] <no_gravity> econdudeawesome: desclare a host?
[20:15] <springwater> out of curiosity, does anyone else in here have more than one monitor?
[20:16] <zolli> bpromt: ok, but avidemux  is not for me, i like cinelerra but a GUI is TERRIBLE
[20:16] <no_gravity> springwater: i own a couple
[20:16] <springwater> all on your ubuntu?
[20:16] <no_gravity> springwater: but only use one at a time
[20:16] <springwater> ah
[20:16] <ArielX_> did anyone read my question
[20:17] <blackthor> hello.  i'm having some trouble with a failed  mdraid.   2 disks (sda and sdb)  3 md raid partitions (md0, md1 and md2)   sda failed (failing disk).  after reboot, the machine does not boot up.   however, in network-recovery-OS,  i can still mount  sdb (and see that it is acting as a degrading raid) and all data is still on it.   any help on getting me to boot the machine back would be VERY
[20:17] <blackthor> VERY welcome !!  thx
[20:17] <OerHeks> ArielX_, for what PPA ? that key comes up many times in google
[20:17] <no_gravity> ArielX_: it looke tile the output of some program
[20:17] <zykotick9> ArielX_: you're missing a key for a PPA you have...
[20:18] <ArielX_> where do i get the key
[20:18] <OerHeks> ArielX_, maybe there is no candidate for your ubuntu version, check the ppa page
[20:19] <zolli> bprompt: thanks anyway ... if you find something, please refer to my post openshot please. hello
[20:19] <deluxe247> can anyone help me with an mysql import. Basically I have all the databases dumpled to an sql.gz file and need to import them. however the databases have not been created and I get an error regarding it. I have 409 databases and do not want to create them by hand. How can I have mysql create the database if it is not there
[20:19] <no_gravity> deluxe247: #mysql
[20:20] <dtcrshr> hello everyone, for some reason the graphic screen stopped loading, and turning the pc it locks on some IRQ messages. I can go to other terminals though, and trying to restart lightdm does nothing, besides pointing me to the f7 tty when issuing the command
[20:20] <dtcrshr> Iv tryed dpkg-reconfigure lightdm, but didnt work
[20:20] <blackthor> i'm afraid my grub was only installed to /dev/sda  and not to /dev/sdb
[20:20] <dtcrshr> I just made a regular update / upgrade
[20:20] <dtcrshr> tryed also on grub sellecting older kernels with no juice
[20:21] <Hundred> is jitsi in the Ubuntu repos?
[20:22] <bekks> !info jitsi
[20:22] <MonkeyDust> !!find jitsi
[20:22] <MonkeyDust> !find jitsi
[20:23] <Hundred> !PPA jitsi
[20:23] <MonkeyDust> it's a VOIP thingy
[20:24] <ejv> deluxe247: try this, http://dpaste.com/1401375/ *use at your own risk*, *this is unsupported by me or #ubuntu*; good luck.
[20:25] <ejv> deluxe247: you'll see the guts of this thing are dumping new line dilineated list of databases, that you first import, then you can perform the second operation to iterate over the list and perform the mysqldump "import"
[20:26] <ejv> deluxe247: works like a charm, edit to you heart's desire
[20:27] <deluxe247> ejv, thanks a lot. points in my the right direction. I'm guessing I could get the list of databases from a directory as well with some modification
[20:28] <ejv> deluxe247: i have to run right now, but if you still need help when i return, i can work on it with you, it's pretty straightforward tho
[20:30] <Hundred> !info linphone
[20:30] <deluxe247> ejv, will keep that in mind. I'll be in the office for another hour then I'll head home and take a smoke break to relax. Will reconvene at that point if no progress
[20:30] <blackthor> mm help. non-booting mdraid. grub assistance... anyone ?
[20:30] <Moseco> I was running windows 7 and ubuntu 13.04. I switched to ubuntu 12.04 (deleted 13.04). I installed grub and when i try to select windows efi it says file not found.
[20:30] <Moseco> I tried using boot repair but it did not fix it (deafult settings anyway
[20:31] <jokoon> anybody knows how to make a macbook pro cooller ? it's at 65 celsius and I can't find any way to cool it
[20:32] <jokoon> 66 now :(
[20:32] <wouzer> jokoon,  maybe a cooling stand?
[20:32] <jokoon> the fans are not RPM'ing enough
[20:32] <designs> okay so I just installed lamp for the first time(Newbie here). I would like to be able to create my php files and html files in the directory /var/www. I have noticed that the owner of the file is root. What should I do.
[20:32] <designs> ?
[20:32] <jokoon> I meant as a software question
[20:33] <wylde> !info fancontrol
[20:33] <tgm4883> jokoon, I don't know the answer to that, but I have the same problem. I didn't find anything searching
[20:33] <designs> i get permisson denied every time.
[20:34] <jokoon>  sudo echo 2500 > /sys/devices/platform/applesmc.768/fan1_min
[20:34] <jokoon> I tried that, I got permission denied
[20:34] <tgm4883> jokoon, true, you would need to use tee, not echo
[20:34] <tgm4883> or switch to a root terminal first
[20:35] <tgm4883> jokoon, I'm guessing wylde's statement of fancontrol was directed at you. I've not tried that
[20:35] <zykotick9> designs: "i believe" you can add your user to the www-data group ( sudo adduser YOURUSER www-data ) [log out and back in] will give you write permission to /var/www  BUT!!! i could be wrong...
[20:36] <jokoon> tgm4883, yes I already have it isntalled, that's how I can know the temps
[20:36] <jokoon> tgm4883, do I need to reboot after setting the min temp ?
[20:37] <tgm4883> jokoon, not sure. That might be reset on boot
[20:37] <tgm4883> jokoon, where did you get that command from?
[20:38] <p1l0t> designs: zykotick9: Yes www-data is generally the PHP user by default but you can also just allow guest to read and execute 755.. just set the <directory> permissions in httpd.conf for apache2
[20:38] <jokoon> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1645913&p=10246215#post10246215
[20:38] <OerHeks> jokoon, see the mactel pages, there is a PPA with fancontrol for mac
[20:38] <zykotick9> p1l0t: 755 is a bad idea for /var/www IMO
[20:39] <OerHeks> jokoon, https://launchpad.net/~mactel-support/+archive/ppa
[20:39] <p1l0t> zykotick9: maybe
[20:39] <tgm4883> jokoon, not sure. I wouldn't do that unless it was for the same model of macbook i have
[20:39] <zykotick9> !wfm > p1l0t
[20:39] <jokoon> tgm4883, it was at 2000, I set at 2500
[20:40] <tgm4883> OerHeks, is there any documentation to go with that PPA? I'd like to try it if I knew what was in there
[20:40] <jokoon> OerHeks, alraedy added, which should i install ?
[20:41] <jokoon> OerHeks, I tried fancontrol, says can't read config file
[20:41] <wylde> jokoon: did you configure it with pwmcontrol?
[20:42] <jokoon> wylde, no I don't think so
[20:42] <jokoon> wylde, should I try it ?
[20:42] <wylde> jokoon: then there's the problem ;)
[20:42] <tgm4883> wylde, does that work for more than just macbooks? I have a macbook that overheats when I play minecraft, but so does my dell laptop
[20:43] <jokoon> wylde, so yes I should then ?
[20:43] <wylde> tgm4883: It works on this old Acer laptop, another old desktop and few other systems I've used it on. I can't say for sure if it will work on all
[20:44] <jokoon> wylde, I got /usr/sbin/pwmconfig: There are no pwm-capable sensor modules installed
[20:44] <tgm4883> wylde, I know it might not work, I just wanted to make sure it wasn't specific to like 2 brands of laptops.
[20:44] <OerHeks> depends on your model https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MactelSupportTeam/CommunityHelpPages#Mactel_Community_Documentation
[20:44] <Moseco> I have windows 7 on a drive and ubuntu 12.04 on another drive. When grub starts on boot up selecting windows results in an error saing: file not found
[20:45] <tgm4883> wylde, my first laptop had i8kutils that was specific to certain dell inspiron models
[20:45] <Moseco> Any help would be appreciated
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[20:45] <ArielX_> W: GPG error: http://ppa.launchpad.net precise Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 40C18E9EC07EE05F
[20:45] <ArielX_> E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (13: Permission denied)
[20:45] <ArielX_> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), are you root?
[20:45] <wylde> !paste | ArielX_
[20:45] <tomatto> hi
[20:46] <ahalverson> ArielX_, are you using a different package management utility at the same time?
[20:46] <k1l> ArielX_: how often do we need to tell you to use a pasteservice?
[20:46] <k1l> !paste > ArielX_
[20:46] <tomatto> how can i download vmware-view-client amd64?
[20:46] <tgm4883> ArielX_, you probably didn't add the PPA correctly, and also you need to run that with sudo (or have something else open)
[20:46] <ArielX_> nope i closed synapic and tried again and got same error
[20:46] <tgm4883> tomatto, isn't it in the repos?
[20:46] <jokoon> OerHeks, ok so what should I try then ?
[20:46] <tomatto> tgm4883: it downloads only 32bit version
[20:47] <ahalverson> ArielX_, are you using sudo?
[20:47] <tgm4883> tomatto, is there a special 64-bit client?
[20:47] <tgm4883> tomatto, I've used it on my 64-bit desktop
[20:47] <tomatto> tgm4883: i hope so, because 32bit version can't be executed
[20:47] <tgm4883> tomatto, are you talking about vmware-view-open-client  or something else?
[20:47] <tgm4883> !info vmware-view-open-client
[20:48] <tgm4883> tomatto, looks like it's got a 64-bit client
[20:48] <tomatto> tgm4883: i don't want open client
[20:48] <ArielX_> yes
[20:48] <tgm4883> tomatto, oh, then IDK
[20:48] <tomatto> idk?
[20:48] <tgm4883> tomatto, what is different in the closed source client?
[20:48] <tomatto> tgm4883: new version
[20:48] <ahalverson> ArielX_, is that the only user on the computer?
[20:48] <tgm4883> tomatto, ah
[20:49] <ArielX_> yes i removed root and rebooted then granted my user root priviledges
[20:49] <tgm4883> tomatto, there is a 64-bit client available from vmware
[20:49] <tgm4883> tomatto, https://my.vmware.com/web/vmware/info/slug/desktop_end_user_computing/vmware_horizon_view_clients/2_0
[20:49] <ahalverson> ArielX_, removed root?
[20:50] <ahalverson> ArielX_, you had root enabled by default?
[20:50] <ArielX_> lol
[20:50] <ArielX_> disabled
[20:50] <ArielX_> sudo passwd -dl root
[20:50] <martian> I accidentally deleted my /etc/apache directory. Is there a way to reinstall the package in a manner which would rebuild the config dir? I've tried purging and installing again but it doesn't rebuild that directory.
[20:50] <jokoon> 65 degrees celsius :(
[20:51] <tomatto> tgm4883: and pcoip support. it is not available in open client
[20:51] <ArielX_> im on precise 12.04 lts
[20:51] <tgm4883> tomatto, well the closed source version should have that
[20:51] <jokoon> tgm4883, did you manage to make your macbook cooler ? btw do you know how to disable the touchpad while typing ?
[20:52] <ahalverson> ArielX_, alright, try "sudo rm /var/lib/apt/lists/lock &&  sudo rm /var/cache/apt/archives/lock"
[20:52] <ArielX_> so root isnt default. i enabled and now I disabled then rebootedbefore doing the update/upgrade thing but insead having errors so I freenabled the root account
[20:52] <tomatto> tgm4883: yes, it has
[20:52] <tgm4883> jokoon, IDK, my macbook is at home so I can't test this now
[20:52] <p1l0t> zykotick9: Yes I guess the permissions don't have to be that permissive I just tested it out. Your right just cause I don't care if others can read/execute what is in there doesn't mean it's the best practice.
[20:52] <tgm4883> tomatto, so grab the closed source client from vmware then
[20:52] <ahalverson> ArielX_, you probably left it in a locked state
[20:52] <tgm4883> tomatto, they have 32 and 64 bit versions available for download
[20:52] <ArielX_> o really?
[20:53]  * p1l0t you're YOU ARE.. hehe
[20:54] <ahalverson> ArielX_, i'm pretty sure that there is a file that apt- reads every time it starts that says if its on or not
[20:54] <tomatto> tgm4883: it wants to open apt://vmware-view-client:i386
[20:54] <ArielX_> didnty check
[20:55] <mn3na3a> guys, need help with i8kmon config file
[20:55] <jokoon> can't I filter and view package by repo ?
[20:55] <jokoon> only view package from a custom repo ?
[20:55] <ArielX_> bz@BENZINO:~$ sudo rm /var/lib/apt/lists/lock &&  sudo rm /var/cache/apt/archives/lock
[20:55] <ArielX_> rm: cannot remove `/var/lib/apt/lists/lock': No such file or directory
[20:55] <ArielX_> bz@BENZINO:~$
[20:55] <cavert> I installed Lubuntu-desktop after my Ubuntu-desktop install. ~ Can I keep both desktops ? ~ If so will the Lubuntu show any performance lag with regular Ubuntu installed as well ?
[20:56] <tgm4883> tomatto, well, without reading the documentation, it would seem that they put it in the repo. And if you've installed it from the repo, and it still doesn't run, that maybe it's missing a dependency
[20:56] <ahalverson> cavert, yes, you can keep both. there will be no extra lag
[20:56] <k1l> cavert: you can keep both desktops and switch on login screen if you like. there will be no slowing down because of the other desktop installed.
[20:57] <ahalverson> ArielX_, just try to use apt- again to make sure
[20:58] <ahalverson> sorry i keep typing "apt-", used to typing apt-get
[20:59] <ahalverson> ArielX_, if that doesn't work, try "sudo rm /var/lib/dpkg/lock && dpkg --configure -a"
[20:59] <soman> Is there any way to find out tickrate in ubuntu?
[21:00] <ahalverson> soman, you mean framerate?
[21:01] <ArielX_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6177257/
[21:01] <Jables94> Howdy do, everyone!
[21:01] <cavert> ahalverson: Thanks Still mucking around in the unity stuff in regular ubuntu, not up to speed on it yet. I assume I wound use only the "Lubuntu Software Center" for new software ? Correct ?
[21:02] <soman> ahalverson: OS' global timer's tickrate
[21:02] <Jables94> I've just installed an ubuntu variant, "Pinguy". It's the first time I've ever used linux, and the first time I've ever used IRC!
[21:02] <ahalverson> cavert, you can actually use either one, but the lubuntu one is faster on older computers
[21:02] <cavert> ahalverson: That is when I'm in the Lubuntu desktop.
[21:02] <Moseco> I have windows 7 and ubuntu 12.04 installed (on seperate drives) when i select windows 7 from grub it says file not found. Any help would be nice! Thanks!
[21:02] <ArielX_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6177257/
[21:03] <cavert> ahalverson: ok Good to hear thx
[21:03] <ahalverson> soman, oh, just sec
[21:03] <zykotick9> Jables94: too bad you're in the wrong spot :(  pinguy isn't supported in #ubuntu....
[21:03] <Jables94> I know I'm in the wrong channel for this sorta thing, but anyway it's nice to be here. Ta ta!
[21:03] <ArielX_> ahalverson
[21:03] <cavert> k1l: Thanks
[21:03] <jokoon> can't find macfanctld in the mactel ppa
[21:03] <k1l> jab416171: for ubuntu variant support please see the ubuntu variants channels /homepages
[21:03] <Jables94> Kool
[21:03] <Jables94> Bye!
[21:03] <vusie> Jables94: welcome to the world of pain
[21:04] <tomatto> tgm4883: in which app can i open apt://vmware-view-client:i386 ?
[21:04] <testpil0t_> Anyone in here recently set up nic-bonding on 12.04.3 and would care to help me with my setup? I just cant get it to work at all (not matter what i try...)
[21:04] <ahalverson> ArielX_, yes
[21:04] <ArielX_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6177257/
[21:04] <tgm4883> tomatto, apt links open in the software center I thought
[21:04] <tony_> hi
[21:04] <ahalverson> ArielX_, i saw
[21:04] <ahalverson> ArielX_, do you know how to edit /etc/apt/sources.list
[21:04] <vusie> hi tony_
[21:04] <tony_> chat server?
[21:04] <ArielX_> yes
[21:04] <k1l> ArielX_: http://askubuntu.com/questions/127326/how-to-fix-missing-gpg-keys
[21:04] <tony_> wooow
[21:05] <tony_> i m italian
[21:05] <zykotick9> ahalverson: ".. do you know how to edit /etc/apt/sources.list" why?
[21:05] <k1l> !it | tony_
[21:05] <ahalverson> ArielX_, take out the repo and see if it works then
[21:05] <k1l> ArielX_: either try this or remove the dozents of PPAs you got. maybe some one is broken
[21:06] <ArielX_> how do i know the repo to remove
[21:06] <zykotick9> ahalverson: assuming you use ubuntu "gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list" just add a # before the repo(s) in question.
[21:06] <ahalverson> ArielX_, could you paste your /etc/apt/sources.list on pastebin for us?
[21:07] <ArielX_> sure
[21:07] <ahalverson> zykotick9, thanks
[21:07] <k1l> ahalverson: PPAs are in /etc/apt/spurces.list.d/ from no on
[21:07] <zykotick9> ahalverson: lol ;)  sorry
[21:07] <k1l> *sources
[21:07] <ArielX_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6177275/
[21:08] <ahalverson> k1l, what do you mean
[21:08] <k1l> ahalverson: PPAs are no more put into the sources.list but no are files in that folder. just make a "ls -al /etc/apt/sources.list.d/" to see what i mean
[21:09] <ahalverson> k1l, so is the old way depreceated now?
[21:09] <zykotick9> k1l: in THIS case there actually are some...
[21:10] <ahalverson> ArielX_, comment out the Kali-Linux tools lines
[21:10] <k1l> well. there are kali linux PPA sources in it. that shouldnt be in there tbh
[21:10] <ahalverson> ArielX_, put a "#" in front of them
[21:10] <ArielX_> okies
[21:10] <ahalverson> k1l, i 've always used the sources.list
[21:10] <k1l> ahalverson: yes. its deprecated to put PPAs in there. PPAs get put in that new folder with add-apt-repository.
[21:11] <ahalverson> k1l, ill check it out
[21:11] <k1l> ahalverson: sometimes things change :)
[21:11] <k1l> !ppa
[21:11] <zykotick9> !addppa
[21:11] <zykotick9> k1l: see above ;)
[21:11] <tgm4883> k1l, a slight correction. That isn't just for PPAs, but for any extra repos
[21:11] <k1l> ah, zykotick9 got the direct factoid :)
[21:12] <empty> hello guyz, can anyone tell me hot to install flags on keyboard layout? Linux Ubuntu 13.04
[21:12] <ahalverson> k1l, neat, been using ubuntu since 11.10, never heard about that
[21:12] <ahalverson> :D
[21:12] <blackthor> need some help with broken mdraid and grub, please.
[21:13] <ahalverson> empty, flags?
[21:14] <justanotheruser> I am using nm-applet to connect to a VPN. Everytime I try to connect I get the error "The VPN connection 'connection name' failed because the attempt timed out"
[21:14] <ArielX_> same erroe
[21:14] <ArielX_> Fetched 2,131 kB in 1min 51s (19.2 kB/s)
[21:14] <ArielX_> Reading package lists... Done
[21:14] <ArielX_> W: GPG error: http://ppa.launchpad.net precise Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 40C18E9EC07EE05F
[21:14] <Quantumpants> hi guys, any idea why vls is not working on my puter?
[21:14] <k1l> ArielX_: did you see my link to askubuntu?
[21:15] <zykotick9> ArielX_: there is some manual way to add the 40C18E9EC07EE05F public key... but i don't have it offhand
[21:16] <blackthor> perhaps this might help: ArielX_ ? (don't know) : https://launchpad.net/+help-soyuz/ppa-sources-list.html
[21:16] <ahalverson> k1l, so how exactly do you put ppas in sources.list.d?
[21:17] <zykotick9> !addppa | ahalverson use this
[21:18] <ahalverson_> lol crash
[21:18] <zykotick9> ahalverson_: but realize that adding/using PPA voids your #ubuntu warranty ;)
[21:19] <ahalverson_> zykotick9, there is no warranty
[21:19] <zykotick9> !ppa | ahalverson_
[21:19] <ahalverson_> unless you have a support contract
[21:19] <zykotick9> ahalverson_: read WARNING above
[21:19] <k1l> ahalverson: "waranty"
[21:20] <k1l> ahalverson: we dont support the PPAs in here. in case it breaks stuff please see the maintainer from that PPA
[21:20] <ahalverson_> zykotick9, there is no warranty to void
[21:21] <k1l> ahalverson: see my last 2 posts
[21:21] <zykotick9> ahalverson_: when you have problems, just don't bring them here - it'll be unsupported.  you tell me...
[21:21] <ahalverson> zykotick9, i have no problems
[21:21] <bprompt> ahalverson_:      is just a way from say canonical to let you know that, you're taking it upon yourself, and that's ok, but don't hold them responsible for what they informed you about
[21:22] <k1l> ahalverson: a broken hardware waranty is fine, too. as long as the hardware doesnt break :)
[21:22] <ahalverson> bprompt, i understand, but i didnt come asking about a crashed program from a ppa
[21:23] <bprompt> ahalverson:  then you
[21:23] <bprompt> ahalverson:  then you're fine :)
[21:23] <k1l> ahalverson: it was just a hint. just a added explaining to the PPA topic. no need to make a drama out of it
[21:23] <ahalverson> k1l, ok
[21:23] <tomatto> where is located deb files?
[21:24] <k1l> tomatto: can you rephrase?
[21:24] <ahalverson> tomatto, i think /var/cache/dpkg/something
[21:24] <bprompt> ahalverson:    noone is prosecuting you or anything, is just a friendly remainder, and to let the proper PPA author know
[21:24] <zykotick9> tomatto: check /var/cache/apt/archives/
[21:24] <zykotick9> ahalverson: close ;)
[21:24] <ahalverson_> shoot
[21:25] <ahalverson_> when is the release date of 13.10
[21:25] <k1l> !saucy
[21:26] <TaLa-> anyone know how to increse the limit 1024 connection to unlimit !?
[21:26] <tomatto> zykotick9: that's it ;)
[21:26] <ahalverson> yay
[21:27] <ahalverson> dont know about anyone else, but im excited about mir
[21:27] <k1l> ahalverson: for general chatting we have #ubuntu-offtopic to keep this channel strict for support :)
[21:27] <zykotick9> ahalverson: please make offtopic comments to #ubuntu-offtopic or #ubuntu-discuss - #ubuntu is support only
[21:27] <ahalverson> k1l, allright thanks
[21:28] <bprompt> saucy salamander?    that sounds like some main dish, though I'm not a lizards consumer
[21:28] <ahalverson> lol
[21:28] <zykotick9> bprompt: please see above
[21:28] <wilee-nilee> better the salamander sauce
[21:28] <wilee-nilee> than*
[21:28] <BluesKaj> sounds yukky
[21:29] <wilee-nilee> pure protein, hehe
[21:30] <upd> TaLa-, check ulimit
[21:30] <TaLa-> # ulimit
[21:30] <TaLa-> unlimited
[21:31] <zykotick9> TaLa-: why are you root?
[21:31] <TaLa-> well its not unlimited...
[21:31] <bprompt> yes sir, we have your saucy salamander, it comes with garlic bread and sliced avocados, and may I offer you a bottle of 1920's wine?   /me ducks
[21:31] <k1l> bprompt: do we need to mute you? please put the offtopic into the offtopic channel.
[21:31] <upd> TaLa-, ulimit -n 65536
[21:32] <TaLa-> # ulimit -n 65536
[21:32] <TaLa-> shold work now ?
[21:32] <upd> test it
[21:32] <TaLa-> sholdt*
[21:32] <TaLa-> hmm without give a restart ?
[21:32] <upd> i think yes, but the question is why you want unlimit
[21:33] <TaLa-> to test something
[21:33] <TaLa-> anyway.. not woriking
[21:33] <TaLa-> working*
[21:34] <upd> yes probablly you need to restart and also there is more things to do http://posidev.com/blog/2009/06/04/set-ulimit-parameters-on-ubuntu/
[21:34] <zykotick9> !doesntwork | TaLa-
[21:40] <Zyroo> Hi
[21:42] <upd> Hi.
[21:42] <Zyroo> I am having issues with intel 82579V + realtek dual nic setup only one working anyone having same problems lately
[21:42] <Zyroo> ???
[21:43] <Zyroo> ubuntu 13.04 64bit server
[21:44] <jab416171> k1l: ...what?
[21:46] <k1l> jab416171: sorry, wrong tabcomplete
[21:46] <coesys> hi
[21:46] <bprompt> allo
[21:48] <ubuntu> witam
[21:48] <rek> hi,so...how can i display more stuff when i press tab in the terminal.... words that i can put in a text files for example...and when i need them i press tab to have them ....
[21:50] <Guest4030> Pozdr
[21:51] <zykotick9> rek: tab-completion is a bit complicated.  but i'm not sure what you're asking is possible.  can you clarify a bit?
[21:52] <zykotick9> rek: ok, on re-read, you want to have tab-completion read from a file you specify?  i've got no clue if that's possible, best of luck - it might be?
[21:53] <Guest4030> Halo...
[21:53] <workmaster2n> does /etc/environment not get read if you have UsePAM set to no for sshd?
[21:53] <rek> zykotick9: sure we should modify the behaviour of that feature i think.... i have a list of my personal emails...i want to press tab to display the emails when i begin to type the email
[21:53] <rek> yeah
[21:53] <zykotick9> rek: all i can say is, "good luck".  i have NO clue.
[21:54] <rek> but...let's discover how linux knows he has.. mutt firefox irssi installed
[21:55] <ahmed583> egypt
[21:55] <k1l> rek: see documentation for the bash tabcompletion
[21:59] <Zyroo> thernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL-8139/8139C/8139C  and intel82579v Not working any clue????
[22:00] <blueeyez> Any1 know if theres a website to scan and see how well a computer is supported by Ubuntu?
[22:01] <oz0ne> blueeyez: try it from a usbpen?
[22:03] <blueeyez> oz0ne that kinda dosent tell how well Ubuntu supports hardware, you often need to install Ubuntu to know how well it supports the hardware
[22:03] <bprompt> blueeyez:    yeah, just write the .iso to an usb stick and boot from it, log in the livesession and do a few checks on what loaded, what didn't
[22:03] <blackthor> having a failed mdraid 1.  replaced broken drive. i recreated 3 partitions on the empty drive, and managed to rebuild 2 out of 3 (one being swap and one being /boot partition)   i afterwards toggled the boot partition as "bootable" (so it's both bootable on sda2 and sdb2) but it appears the machine isn't still booting yet.  any ideas?
[22:03] <zykotick9> k1l: do you mind if i PM you a single message (no reply required)?
[22:04] <k1l> zykotick9: sure, go ahead
[22:04] <zykotick9> oll in #ubuntu-discuss once (which pissed me off, idleone also made comments i didn't like).  but i just wanted to say "no hard feelings" (from my side).  I hope you can see, that "overall" i am a benefit to #ubuntu
[22:04] <zykotick9> still - even if I'm not 100% on the ubuntu/canonical train-of-thinking.
[22:04] <zykotick9> k1l: lol, sorry :(
[22:05] <blueeyez> bprompt looking for a newbie solution (Not for me, i run Ubuntu 13.04) but im wondering why this dosent exist since Ubuntu is developed for people with low linux knowledge (Compared to other linux distros)
[22:05] <jab416171> what's the harm in pushing the latest version of a package (for example, git) to all the still supported repos?
[22:06] <bekks> jab416171: The harm of breaking them all.
[22:06] <jab416171> bekks: care to elaborate?
[22:07] <marcus> hi
[22:07] <bekks> jab416171: you would have to elaborate all dependencies in all repos, taking care of not breaking things, rebuilding deps, pushing them to the repos again, etc. - thats far too much work.
[22:08] <jab416171> bekks: all packages that depend on git?
[22:08] <bekks> jab416171: If you update git, yes. You would have to check all dependencies of all packages depending on git in all repos, etc.
[22:08] <bprompt> blueeyez:    well, to know exactly what works on what hardware, is an elusive enterprise without any testing the software on the actual system, I mean, hardware makers are diverse and they may diverge on this or that something of a peripheral, so, they stick to standards, but the accurate way to find out on support, is to actually test on the system in question
[22:09] <jab416171> bekks: could there be a case where a package has 0 dependencies?
[22:09] <jab416171> in which case, there wouldn't be any side effects to updating that package?
[22:09] <bprompt> allo marcus
[22:09] <bekks> jab416171: that would be the exception of the rule.
[22:10] <jab416171> so, really, the risk comes from packages that depend on the package in question
[22:10] <bekks> jab416171: No. The risk comes from the package itself breaking its dependencies.
[22:10] <jab416171> right
[22:14] <zykotick9> !stable > jab416171
[22:15] <jab416171> zykotick9: I understand the point of stability, but I guess I don't understand, for instance, why certain applications are updated and others aren't (like chrome and git, for instance)
[22:16] <zykotick9> jab416171: I CAN'T explain ubuntu's move to non-stable.  previously they followed debian's policies, now - not so much.
[22:17] <k1l> jab416171: chrome installs an own repo which updates the brwoser
[22:17] <zykotick9> k1l: BUT firefox in ubuntu repo, updates on a "new" policy
[22:17] <k1l> jab416171: and updates only come for bugfixes and security purposes. new versions most times only come with a new ubuntu release.
[22:18] <jab416171> k1l: I'm on 12.04 but I'm on the latest version of chrome
[22:18] <zykotick9> k1l: that's no longer true... see firefox.
[22:18] <k1l> the browser is a security issue. so it gets updated since its too much effort to patch the old version instead of just going for the new version
[22:18] <jab416171> and yeah, firefox is another example that's up to date (or at most, a few weeks behind)
[22:18] <Darkstar1> hello all someone just installed php-fpm + fastcgi for me on my server few days back. Just tried testing it now witha simple phpinfo file and browsers just offer to download the php. been googling but so far nothing that helps
[22:19] <Tal__> Hey, I just rented my Ubuntu server from OVH and I am accessing it using X2GO. It wont let me download anything on it it keeps asking for a authentication password and none of my passwords are working
[22:20] <zykotick9> jab416171: i'd think chrome vs chromium might be a different story... fail to non-free software, like chrome.  good luck.
[22:20] <Darkstar1> could someone perhaps point me in the right direction?? assuming tthis is not off topic for this channel
[22:20] <k1l> zykotick9: jab416171 firefox used to stay longer on the releases and was patchable. but they changed the release schedule. so ubuntu had to change the old rule in there
[22:20] <jab416171> zykotick9: what do you mean?
[22:21] <zykotick9> k1l: debian still hasn't... which causes issue for ubuntu...  chrome vs firefox version number war is stupid...
[22:21] <Tal__> So can anyone help me?
[22:22] <k1l> Tal__: some servers do have restrictions. did you ask the provider?
[22:22] <Tal__> Yes, i did they said that Ubuntu software is their software. Not theirs. I am just wondering how to download steam so i can host a few game server on it
[22:23] <Tal__> Once i try downloading it says to install purchased software i need authentication
[22:23] <pentest> LTSP Question
[22:23] <k1l> Tal__: usually servers get managed through ssh access.
[22:23] <pentest> Xubuntu 13.04 Host OS and LTSP server, 1 wifi card connected to Internet. Virtual Box installed with Thin Client Guest OS. Is it possible to have Thin Client boot-up with this LTSP server plz?
[22:24] <jose__> Hi, i got this error when try to install ubuntu-12.04.3-server-amd64 in virtualbox: "This kernel requires an x86-64 CPU, but only detected an i686 CPU. Unable to boot - please use a kernel appropiate for your PC". I am using xubuntu 12.04 and i have already activated intel VT in my BIOS.  suggestions? Thanks in advance
[22:24] <Tal__> Ermmm, what do you mean. I am completely a noob
[22:24] <zykotick9> jose__: you might want to try #vbox
[22:25] <jose__> zykotick9, thanks
[22:25] <TJ-> Tal__: "purchased software" ... that's the key phrase. If you're buying from the Ubuntu store, the packages also come with a digital certificate which is installed with the package manager (apt) so it can access the repositories to download the purchased software
[22:25] <Tal__> Yes, but it asks for a password. My password is working
[22:25] <Tal__> It rejects it
[22:25] <k1l> Tal__: i dont know about x2go
[22:26] <Tal__> i am using x2go to manage my server. This is something within Ubuntu i believe
[22:27] <TJ-> Tal__: It sounds to me as if its not a server, its a desktop machine, since as I understand it, the X2go application is a terminal server
[22:28] <TJ-> Tal__: Or to be more specific, it has been configured as a desktop machine with a GUI. Servers rarely have X and a GUI installed since almost all server admin tools are command-line.
[22:28] <Zyroo> please see this guyz http://paste.ubuntu.com/6177530/
[22:28] <Tal__> It is with GUI...all i am wanting to do is setup a ARMA server...I am utterly confused
[22:31] <OerHeks> Zyroo, what is your issue? your paste shows both adapters get an IP
[22:32] <Tal__> :/
[22:33] <TJ-> Tal__:  You'll need to be more specific about the program you're using and the exact error messages it produces. Using a GUI makes that more difficult, which is why many prefer using the command-line programs from a text terminal
[22:33] <Zyroo> OerHeks:Its static setup not dhcp
[22:34] <TJ-> Zyroo: Your description of the problem is unclear. Please be specific. What is not working?
[22:34] <Zyroo>  OerHeks:ifdown em1 is not working also service networking restart em1 device always stays there
[22:35] <Tal__> Okay, so i got a Virtualisation server from OVH. I put Ubuntu on it. They told me to use x2go to access the server and manage it. I got on. I am trying to download steam from the ubuntu store. it says it needs a password. none of my passwords work....
[22:37] <zykotick9> Tal__: i'm REALLY not sure what steam will do for you on a VPS...
[22:37] <TJ-> Tal__: OK, for installation of packages the user account must be an admin account. If it is, when prompted for a password, enter that user's password. If the user isn't an admin, it won't work
[22:37] <Tal__> I am on the only account on the server.... and steam is needed for hosting a ARMA server
[22:37] <Tal__> .......
[22:38] <TJ-> Tal__: Try installing it from the command-line and see what messages you get
[22:38] <zykotick9> TJ-: keep in mind, a lot os VPS provides give a "root" password for there ubuntu installs :(
[22:38] <Zyroo> TJ: During the installation If i select em1 interface thats intel as primary ethernet it will work perfect but the other card hangs and wont restart,with service command or by ifdown . I tried many ways but still problem
[22:38] <Tal__> What would i need to type?
[22:39] <zykotick9> TJ-: s/a lot os/a lot of/
[22:39] <TJ-> zykotick9: Tal__ The issue is probably because to install steam the user must have an Ubuntu One account, and it is installed from a proprietary repository which needs an authentication key for apt to access it
[22:39] <zykotick9> TJ-: are you serious?  that's crazyness...
[22:40] <TJ-> Zyroo: Define "hangs"? Show us entries from the logs detailing the failure. We need specific information we're not telepathic
[22:40] <k1l> are you sure you need steam for managing a server?
[22:40] <Tal__> Well how do i fix this?
[22:40] <TJ-> zykotick9: That's the standard procedure for the proprietary packages
[22:41] <zykotick9> TJ-: i personally consider the fact that "ubuntu software center" can install software (purchased) that apt-get can't to be...  i don't have a word.
[22:41] <TJ-> Tal__: What are you using to install steam? The software-center GUI ?
[22:41] <Tal__> Yes
[22:41] <Zyroo> TJ:What should i provide you with
[22:42] <TJ-> zykotick9: It can get to it, but it has to provide a digital key. When you purchase software (or install £0 software) apt installs the key, and uses it to authorise itself with the archive HTTP server.
[22:43] <TJ-> Zyroo: If something is hanging presumably there are entries in "/var/log/dmesg" or "/var/log/kern.log" showing the problem.
[22:43] <Tal__> Alright, lets veer away from what I am downloading, Can you give me some steps to getting rid of this stupid authorization password. it appears on every download i attempt.
[22:43] <TJ-> Tal__: And you're giving Software Centre your Ubuntu One credentials?
[22:43] <Tal__> Yes
[22:45] <Territoriojoven> i wrote sudo restart lightdm and now i can't boot into lubuntu
[22:46] <TJ-> Tal__: So it says "processing" then a dialog pops up entitled "Authenticate" and it has list box showing the user(s) you can authenticate as, and an edit box for typing the password?
[22:46] <Territoriojoven> it stays in a black screen with some stuff saying OK and Stopped
[22:46] <Tal__> No, it just provides a password box and thats it. no options
[22:47] <TJ-> What version of Ubuntu have you installed into that virtual machine?
[22:47] <sterk> Hi. I'm trying to install Ubuntu on a laptop with a broken screen. I have a monitor connected via HDMI. Can i switch the installer to show on the second monitor? Right now the second monitor is all black, and the laptop screen has 0 visibility
[22:48] <zykotick9> TJ-: thanks.  but someone was in #ubuntu the other day with the opposite problem.  they purcahsed in in "ubuntu software center" and didn't see it in apt-cache search foo ?
[22:48] <TJ-> sterk: If the HDMI is detected, output should be cloned onto it
[22:48] <Tal__> TJ me?
[22:49] <zykotick9> s/in in/it in/
[22:49] <TJ-> zykotick9: They should, *after* the apt authentication keys are installed.
[22:49] <CyberGabber> sterk: Sometimes with pressing together kets [fn] and f4 , cycling trough internal/external
[22:49] <sterk> TJ-: Any idea what might br wrong if it isn't cloned? The monitor works fine with that laptop, so no problems with that
[22:49] <wylde> sterk: did you try the hardware keys? eg. Fn+F5
[22:49] <ArielX_> thanks for the help
[22:49] <sterk> CyberGabber: I've tried that without any success
[22:49] <zykotick9> TJ-: ;) and that's something YOU could help with, but i certainly couldn't....
[22:50] <sterk> The UNetbootin menu showed just fine (i'm using a usb stick), but as soon as it loaded Ubuntu, the screen went black
[22:51] <Tal__> Okay,so would it be easier to rent a Windows 2012 Server lisencse and host servers on that?
[22:51] <Tal__> This is confusing
[22:52] <zykotick9> sterk: 1) unetbootin (from windows) MAY have issues booting ubuntu AND 2) look into "nomodeset" boot option, "/msg ubottu nomodeset" for details
 i wrote sudo restart lightdm and now i can't boot into lubuntu
[22:53] <sterk> zykotick9: I head the ubuntu boot sound (drum thing), so i think it booted fine?
[22:53] <sterk> I have Windows running on it now (works fine with the monitor) so i suppose i could use Wubi
[22:54] <sterk> Can Wubi do a full wipe of the disk and install Ubuntu as the only OS, or only side by side with windows?
[22:54] <zykotick9> sterk: wubi = LOL
[22:54] <k1l> Tal__: you mean arma2?
[22:54] <Territoriojoven> i could install ubuntu, xubuntu and lubuntu fine with wubi
[22:54] <Tal__> yes
[22:54] <Tal__> k1l: yes
[22:54] <k1l> Tal__: i read that there are standalone servers
[22:54] <wilee-nilee> sterk, neither it installs as a file in windows
[22:55] <sterk> If i connected the monitor with VGA, instead of HDMI, could that help anything?
[22:55] <TJ-> zykotick9: when these packages are installed, a file such as "private-ppa.launchpad.net_commercial-ppa-uploaders_steam_ubuntu.list" is added to "/etc/apt/sources.list.d/" and the credentials are added to "/etc/apt/auth.conf" such as "machine private-ppa.launchpad.net/commercial-ppa-uploaders/steam/ubuntu login tj password somepasswordhere"
[22:56] <wilee-nilee> !nomodeset | sterk black screen solution
[22:56] <k1l> Tal__: like on this howto: http://www.apollon-domain.co.uk/?p=221   steam is not even mentioned once on that howto.
[22:56] <Tal__> steam doesnt matter
[22:56] <Tal__> though
[22:56] <Tal__> What matter is i CANT download anything
[22:57] <Tal__> steam is irrelevant
[22:57] <k1l> Tal__: connect through ssh and use wget to download the stuff. if there is an error show the error in here
[22:57] <nanang_> what's karnel ?
[22:57] <Tal__> how do i connect through ssh?
[22:57] <Tal__> :P noob
[22:58] <Tal__> me
[22:58] <TJ-> sterk: Sorry, missed your earlier reply. If you have access to an SSH session, try running "DISPLAY=:0.0 xrandr -q"
[22:58] <wilee-nilee> sterk, Have you checked on a screen for the computer, might not be that expensive and worth the investment.
[22:59] <k1l> Tal__: ssh user@ip
[22:59] <TJ-> Tal__: As I said earlier, if the user has admin rights, then the password of that user is being requested when you see the prompt for the password, when wanting to download/install a package
[22:59] <wilee-nilee> !ssh | Tal__
[22:59] <Tal__> okay
[22:59] <Tal__> is SSH already on my server?
[23:00] <Tal__> since i cant download things
[23:00] <zykotick9> TJ-: if you use method outlined in <!addppa> i agree.  BUT PPA's are a bad idea IMO.
[23:00] <k1l> Tal__: ssh is to connnect to your server
[23:01] <TJ-> Tal__: How are we supposed to know? It *isn't* a server if you've got ubuntu-desktop installed. It's just a remote desktop on a headless instance, which would suggest it would not have "openssh-server" installed.
[23:02]  * TJ- thinks Tal_ is more than a little lost right now. We need to know which release and which flavour is installed. 
[23:03] <Zyroo> TJ:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/6177614/
[23:03] <sterk> Connecting it with VGA fixed my problems. Thanks for the help everyone
[23:05] <TJ-> Zyroo: Thanks. kern.log shows both interfaces are fine. ifconfig looks OK... pastebin "/etc/network/interfaces" please
[23:06] <romario> Olá
[23:07] <Zyroo> TJ:http://paste.ubuntu.com/6177625/ here it is
[23:09] <TJ-> Zyroo: pastebin "ip route ls" ... it looks to me that because both interfaces are on the same sub-net, that the default root is using em1
[23:09] <crispyhex> Hey question. I need to install ubuntu on an old computer that has a CD drive NOT a DVD drive.  I downloaded the img.gz file for the netboot version of 12.10 so that I can actually fit the os on a CD.  How do I burn the img.gz file onto a CD? or do I just write the file onto the CD and try to boot from it??
[23:10] <TJ`> oh hai guize
[23:10] <Taiiwo> crispyhex: Try Unetbootin
[23:10] <bekks> crispyhex: the netinstall iso fits on a cd.
[23:11] <zykotick9> TJ-: sorry, took me - WAY to long to "get on the trolley" on this one (simpsons reference).  ok, so when you install something from USC, it adds a PPA/with-key to people's sources.list (and/or sources.list.d)?  i think i gotcha.
[23:11] <Taiiwo> Oh, yea. I didn't think about space...
[23:11] <crispyhex> is the netinstall an iso though??
[23:11] <bekks> crispyhex: Thats what I just said.
[23:11] <TJ-> crispyhex: See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD
[23:11] <sterk> wilee-nilee: It's an "old" worn out laptop that i occasionaly use as a media center, so if i get it to work on my TV, i'm happy :)
[23:11] <Zyroo> TJ: Actually i tried many ips finally i came up with same subnet before i was using different ranges coz i want to try this machine as a gateway. Every time i tried to restart one card   showing problems
[23:11] <wilee-nilee> crispyhex, Yes the net install is an iso
[23:12] <wilee-nilee> sterk, Cool, may be tough it seems, good luck.
[23:12] <Taiiwo> Zyroo: You might want to look at XMBC
[23:12] <inahd_> hey all
[23:12] <crispyhex> alright thank you, I didn't know about the minimalCD.  Thanks!
[23:13] <Zyroo> Taiiwo:Please could you tell me how?
[23:13] <inahd_> anyone know how to get bluetooth/wiimote working!?
[23:13] <TJ-> zykotick9: Yes, precisely. But I think Tal_'s problem is simply that the user's password is required (via gksudo etc) to install the package and for some reason the wrong one is being given
[23:13] <zykotick9> crispyhex: fyi, you can "cat, cp, dd" the mini.iso onto the root of a USB drive to make a working install USB.
[23:13] <Taiiwo> Zyroo: http://wiki.xbmc.org/index.php?title=XBMCbuntu
[23:14] <Taiiwo> That's Ubuntu with XMBC preconfigured as a media center. There are install instructions and download links on that page.
[23:14] <TJ-> Zyroo: Have you tried using "ping -I p5p1 $IP_OF_ANOTHER_MACHINE" (the option is upper-case i, not a lower-case L!) ?
[23:16] <Zyroo> Taiwoo, TJ   let me check
[23:16] <Territoriojoven> what?
[23:17] <Zyroo> TJ: No ping
[23:18] <TJ-> Zyroo: It is possible the replies end up coming back through the em1 interface. You might want to use "tcpdump" to inspect traffic on the networks
[23:19] <TJ-> Zyroo: lets see the "ip route ls" output, without it, we're flying blind
[23:19] <xmetal> hmm i just noticed the distro I use + unity DE says "Ubuntu 13.04" in the System Info part ... i wonder (i am websearching now) what the "difference is" between that distro + Unity and Ubuntu
[23:20] <Zyroo> TJ i can understand sorry for the trouble could be the issue with router or some le me check packets
[23:20] <TJ-> Zyroo: Let's see the routes! they are the key
[23:20] <k1l> xmetal: what does "lsb_release -a" tell? (show in a pastebin)
[23:22] <skinux> Is it a good idea to use Linux partitioning software for shrinking Windows partition to give Ubuntu more space?
[23:22] <k1l> skinux: you should consider to have a backup no matter which software you use to fiddle with partitions.
[23:23] <k1l> skinux: but i prefer to use the windows tool to shrink windows partitions. (some where in the hdd system settings in windows)
[23:23] <xmetal> dont see why not ... although i'd backup anything "critical first"
[23:24] <xmetal> i have seen people knock Gparted (Linux based) but I have used it for years and never had an issue with it
[23:24] <xmetal> even when editing windows NTFS partitions
[23:24] <xmetal> lol when i partition even MS paritions, whatever I use always tends to be Linux based anyway
[23:25] <skinux> My problem with backing up is I have probably 120G used by software and files and I don't have enough discs for that.
[23:25] <k1l> xmetal: i didnt say its not possible to use gparted for that task.
[23:26] <Zyroo> TJ: I cant give you complete info no problems man other ips are WAN ips inside a zone
[23:26] <xmetal> and i never said you did say that
[23:27] <Zyroo> TJ: sorry for the trouble
[23:27] <xmetal>  either way can be an optiopn
[23:27] <xmetal> er option too
[23:28] <xmetal> for the given more space to Ubuntu part I'd use gparted
[23:28] <xmetal> not sure if (or if ... how well it works) MS partition "manager" handles Linux partitions
[23:29] <acidulous> --
[23:30] <k1l> xmetal: i am sure it doesnt handle linux paritions. i am just prefering to let windows handle their partitions
[23:31] <xmetal> ah ... not that bad of an idea
[23:31] <xmetal> as i said I know people who have issues with gparted, though i have not had issues
[23:31] <Territoriojoven> help pls
[23:31] <xmetal> so letting MS handle that side of it, may be a good idea
[23:31] <Territoriojoven> so i tried to fix what happened and got into my ubuntu session or something
[23:32] <Territoriojoven> startx gave me a black screen
[23:32] <xmetal> !ask
[23:32] <Territoriojoven> okay
[23:32] <k1l> Territoriojoven: dont use startx.
[23:32] <Territoriojoven> a friend told me to use it to fix it
[23:32] <xmetal> hmm lol the bot always lags whne i try to use it
[23:32] <xmetal> there we go :)
[23:32] <k1l> start the lightdm with (sudo service lightdm start)
[23:32] <acidulous> anyone know how i could boot ubuntu from a usb drive on windows 8?
[23:32] <acidulous> this secure boot thing is stopping me :/
[23:33] <Territoriojoven> well i ran weechat-curses
[23:33] <k1l> if it doesnt show the loginscreen see the logs why that is happening: ~/.xsession-errors and /var/log/syslog
[23:33] <Territoriojoven> and now im in a full screen weechat with no command line
[23:33] <zykotick9> Territoriojoven: what graphics card?  "lspci | grep -i vga"
[23:33] <Territoriojoven> none
[23:33] <Territoriojoven> just some integrated thing
 anyone know how i could boot ubuntu from a usb drive on windows 8?
 this secure boot thing is stopping me :/
[23:34] <Territoriojoven> hmhmm
[23:34] <Territoriojoven> sudo service lightdm start sends me back to the black screen
[23:34] <Territoriojoven> wait a minute ill tell you what it says
[23:34] <StarFlower> acidulous, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI may help
[23:34] <OerHeks> acidulous, there is a manual for UEFI, works only with a 64 bit CPU
[23:35] <Territoriojoven> starting the windbind daemon windbind, starting ntpd server ntpd and stopping server V runlevel compatibility
[23:35] <skinux> Tried BleachBit, recovered 600MB.
[23:36] <skinux> I still don't think the disk should be anywhere near full, though.
[23:36] <Territoriojoven> i can use the command line, lightdm doesn't seems to work, what now?
[23:37] <TimPlaz> Has anyome got flash player to work in Chrome or firefox in Ubuntu 12.04? Did a fresh install on a Compaq Presario S6300NX. Have yet to be able to view flash content as well as www.youtube.com videos.
[23:37] <OerHeks> Territoriojoven, after starting, ctrl + alt + F7 to switch on desktop
[23:38] <StarFlower> skinux, you may want to install and use filelight to see where the space is being used
[23:38] <Territoriojoven> that sends me to the black screen with the above stuff
[23:38] <zykotick9> OerHeks: (i'd expect you to know this) but alt+f7 if they aren't currently in Xorg.
[23:40] <StarFlower> TimPlaz, you should try installing hal
[23:40] <Territoriojoven> IDK what happened
[23:40] <Territoriojoven> i was trying to disable the guest account
[23:41] <Territoriojoven> it worked on xubuntu
[23:44] <k1l> Territoriojoven: its hard to help you without the logs and errormessages and what you did before
[23:44] <acidulous> debian > ubuntu
[23:44] <cavert> Is there a GUI interface package that I can use to see whats running in the background? Or a terminal command? But not totally up to speed with Terminal. Thanks
[23:44] <Territoriojoven> i did sudo restart lightdm
[23:44] <Territoriojoven> and i dont know how to get the logs
[23:44] <cavert> Running Lubuntu
[23:44] <StarFlower> cavert, system monitor
[23:45] <zykotick9> cavert: htop is handing in terminal/console
[23:45] <k1l> acidulous: stop that trolling in here. thanks
[23:45] <zykotick9> s/handing/handy/
[23:45] <Territoriojoven> currently im switching from command line to weechat with alt + arrow keys
[23:45] <acidulous> how is that trolling?
[23:45] <cavert> StarFlower: Thanks
[23:45] <StarFlower> cavert, your welcome
[23:46] <cavert> zykotick9: Thanks much.
[23:46] <skinux> According to filelight 93% of my disk is used.
[23:47] <Territoriojoven> k1l: what do i do to get the logs?
[23:47] <skinux> Maybe I will have to give Ubuntu more space from Windows.
[23:47] <Territoriojoven> skinux: how do you do that? mine has also ran out of space, I thought the 5gb installation was just for the os
[23:48] <cavert> 1st time using a fresh install of Lubuntu. Must say very smooth, solid, an I'm loving it.........
[23:48] <john__> Hello
[23:48] <john__> I was wondering
[23:48] <john__> How do I install Gentoo?
[23:48] <Territoriojoven> lol
[23:48] <skinux> Shrink Windows partition and expand Ubuntu's, pretty much.
[23:48] <LegendaryQ> john__: that'll be more effective at the arch linux channel
[23:49] <john__> will they help me install Gentoo?
[23:49] <skinux> I think I'll have to shrink Windows, create a new partition, then merge Ubuntu's partition with the new one.
[23:49] <LegendaryQ> Probably not, tbh
[23:49] <Territoriojoven> hmm
[23:49] <Territoriojoven> "lightdm start/running, process..."
[23:50] <Territoriojoven> i have that like 3 times
[23:50] <Territoriojoven> maybe im running the lightdm but its not working somehow
[23:50] <Territoriojoven> killall did nothing
[23:53] <Territoriojoven> sooo what can i do?
[23:54] <cavert> Is there a way to UN-encrpt my hard drive? ~ ~ I chose the option during install of Ubuntu 12.10 to "encrypt" my drive. - Have installed Lubuntu desktop and using that instead of Ubuntu.
[23:54] <Bryce_> debian > ubuntu?
[23:54] <Territoriojoven> ...
[23:55] <Bryce_> debian > ubuntu?
[23:55] <Territoriojoven> sooo what can i do?
[23:58] <Territoriojoven> is there anything fun i can do from command line?
[23:59] <kampiyo> mm
[23:59] <kampiyo> run  cmatrix
[23:59] <kampiyo> ;)