[02:19] <pmatulis_> any nastiness awaiting an upgrade to saucy?
[05:25] <petepr> setup android dev yesterday. easy as pie. worked 1st time.
[05:28] <petepr> who's using what irc clients here ?
[05:34] <Myrtti> oh, damn.
[05:42] <Unit193> Needs to figure out how to use one that actually can idle. >_>
[05:47] <Myrtti> mmm
[06:44] <hyperair> irssi
[06:44] <Unit193> Yep.
[06:44] <hyperair> what do you mean idle anyway?
[06:44] <hyperair> even pidgin can idle
[06:45] <Unit193> (Not the rc anyway.)  Kidding, he joined and parted a few times after too.
[06:45] <hyperair> ah
[06:47] <Myrtti> hisssssssssss
[06:47] <Myrtti> don't mention pidgin
[06:48] <Myrtti> not when talking of IRC
[06:48] <Unit193> OK, mIRC.
[06:48] <Myrtti> ok.
[06:48] <bioterror> AmIRC'
[06:48] <Myrtti> bioterror: tietsä niinku
[06:48] <bioterror> morrrooo :D
[07:19] <hyperair> blueargh
[07:19] <hyperair> mIRC, but not pidgin? wtf?
[07:24] <Myrtti> hyperair: even pidgin developers agree pidgin isn't a full fledged IRC client. It has several issues, especially if it's extended with plugins and addons that claim to enhance the IRC experience. Thus no freenode staffer will ever be caught recommending pidgin for any IRC use.
[07:24] <hyperair> hmm, i see
[07:25] <Myrtti> one of the IRC extensions, plugins, whatever for example leaks out information about what private chats or channels you had open when you quit pidgin
[07:25] <bioterror> pidgin is horrible in every aspect
[07:26] <Myrtti> many server side commands and their outputs are ignored and/or not displayed by pidgin
[07:30] <Myrtti> if of all the IM options available your primary and most active is IRC, then bitlbee is probably the best available option for checking the other IM boxes.
[12:51] <speckmade> phillw: wanna get a DIG IN THE RIB? ;-)
[12:52] <speckmade> phillw: want me to try with lubuntu beta?
[12:54] <phillw> speckmade: try the latest daily, is should have the new kernel in it :)
[12:54] <phillw> 3.11.0-9-generic #16-Ubuntu
[13:04] <manuel__> hello @ all
[13:08] <manuel__> i'm running Lubuntu 13.04 and using usb soundcard on my system. but alsa mixer won't play sounds over the usb soundcard. sound comes only from onboard ali 5451 chip. but the jack's are brocken :/ could someone help me? =)
[13:22] <phillw> manuel__: I suggest installing pulseaudio
[13:22] <Rory> Hello manuel__
[13:22] <phillw> manuel__: and pavucontrol (the GUI controller for it).
[13:23] <Rory> manuel__: Can you please put the output from the command "cat /proc/asound/modules" onto http://paste.ubuntu.com and then let me know the URL?
[13:24] <manuel__> hey there at all
[13:24] <manuel__> yes i do
[13:24] <manuel__> give me a min. pls
[13:24] <manuel__> =)
[13:25] <manuel__> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6179581/
[13:25] <manuel__> i'll be back in a min.
[13:26] <Rory> manuel__: echo "options snd_usb_audio index=1" | sudo tee -a /etc/modprobe.d/sound
[13:27] <Rory> manuel__: sudo depmod -a && sudo alsa force-reload
[13:27] <Rory> manuel__: Then it's either fixed, or I have no idea
[13:29] <manuel__> i try it =)
[13:29] <manuel__> have i type it into terminal?
[13:29] <Rory> Yes
[13:29] <Rory> manuel__: copy and paste to avoid mistakes
[13:30] <manuel__> i've done =)
[13:30] <Rory> OK does it work?
[13:30] <manuel__> do i have do reboot my system? :)
[13:31] <Rory> Not if you run the second command : sudo depmod -a && sudo alsa force-reload
[13:31] <Rory> brb cup of tea
[13:31] <manuel__> alsa mixer shows me as default the ali 5451 :(
[13:32] <manuel__> how can i install pulse audio Rory?
[13:35] <Rory> manuel__: Can you please post the output of: "cat /proc/asound/cards" to http://paste.ubuntu.com
[13:36] <manuel__> yes
[13:36] <Rory> *sigh* will you, please?
[13:37] <manuel__> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6179615/
[13:37] <Rory> thanks
[13:37] <manuel__> ^^
[13:37] <manuel__> :)
[13:37] <manuel__> i've to thank for help =)
[13:38] <manuel__> with wine and vlc playe 2.0.8 (win32 version) sound comes from usb audio. in wine i can change the soundcard. but with lubuntu itself not =(
[13:38] <Rory> manuel__: echo defaults.ctl.card 1 | sudo tee -a /etc/asound.conf
[13:38] <Rory> manuel__: echo defaults.pcm.card 1 | sudo tee -a /etc/asound.conf
[13:38] <Rory> manuel__: echo defaults.timer.card 1 | sudo tee -a /etc/asound.conf
[13:38] <manuel__> is that one command or two? =)
[13:38] <Rory> three
[13:38] <manuel__> okay. can i copy and paste that, right? =)
[13:39] <Rory> yes, please do
[13:39] <manuel__> do i have super user rights?
[13:39] <Rory> manuel__: Yes, enter your password when prompted
[13:39] <manuel__> i see :D my bad . in all three coms there is "sudo" :D
[13:40] <Rory> manuel__: then run: sudo depmod -a ; sudo alsa force-reload
[13:40] <manuel__> okay :)
[13:42] <manuel__> vlc player was killed :D now i'll look at alsa mixer
[13:43] <manuel__> alsa mixer show me first the usb audio if i open the window
[13:43] <manuel__> yeeeeeees!!
[13:43] <manuel__> it works =)
[13:43] <manuel__> god bless you :) thaaaaaaaank you =)
[13:44] <Rory> No problem manuel__ glad you got it working
[13:44] <Rory> manuel__: Out of interest, what USB sound card do you have, and do you recommend it?
[13:44] <manuel__> Rory =) only with your help =) thank you =)
[13:44] <manuel__> rely better as over wine :D
[13:45] <Rory> I'm surprised there isn't a nice way to set the default sound device in Lubuntu without using PulseAudio
[13:45] <manuel__> wine has to emulate the sound and so on. and thats slow the system down :S
[13:45] <manuel__> but what did you do with this commands Rory?
[13:45] <pmatulis_> any big lubuntu-specific Saucy bugs remaining?
[13:46] <Rory> manuel__: What do you mean?
[13:46] <manuel__> Rory: what made the commands you've wrote me? sets my usb audio card to default?
[13:47] <Rory> manuel__: That's right. When you showed me "cat /proc/asound/cards" I could see your sound cards
[13:47] <Rory> manuel__: The internal one was number 0, and the USB one was number 1
[13:48] <Rory> manuel__: All we did was tell Alsa to use device number 1 by default
[13:48] <manuel__> pmatulis: maybe i've to write the lubuntu community? that could be an bug in alsa mixer.
[13:49] <manuel__> Rory: okay =) and it works like a charm ^^ =)
[13:49] <manuel__> Rory: do i've to do this every time i boot up lubuntu?
[13:50] <Rory> manuel__: no
[13:50] <manuel__> Rory: that's good =)
[13:52] <phillw> Rory: maybe you can add it to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Setup#Change_Default_Sound_card as q uick way, and then use the alsa wiki page as "for morwe information" ?
[13:52] <Rory> phillw: Don't let me forget to do that before I go home
[13:54] <manuel__> thats a very good idea =) i've to say that i uses the Speedlink Vigo USB Soundcard. And Lubuntu install this card on the fly
[13:57] <Rory> Yes most cards will work out of the box, I had a FiiO E10 and a FiiO E17 which worked 100%
[15:26] <bubibubi> is it possible to use lubuntu from usb with possibility to add programs, save files etc  ?
[15:28] <Rory> Yes bubibubi the process is the same as normal Ubuntu
[15:32] <bubibubi> ok thanx
[18:10] <Suarte4> Hello, I have Lubuntu 13.04 here. For some reason I have no idea (have done nothing other than updates),   I cannot login anymore into my main user account. I can still log into the others including guest and everything works fine. So here  is what I tried. Ctrl+Alt+F1 logged in main account via terminal.  OK it works.  Then startlubuntu but I get the following error message. cp: impossible to create the standard file <<//
[18:12] <bioterror> is that really all?
[18:12] <bioterror> probably something under ~/.config/
[18:14] <Suarte4> :)
[18:15] <Suarte4> change permissions?
[18:15] <bioterror> I would make .bak folders
[18:15] <bioterror> one by one
[18:15] <bioterror> starting from gnome2
[18:16] <bioterror> the problem lies under your ~/
[18:18] <Unit193> Might also remove .{X,ICE}authority
[18:18] <Myrtti> ... how did you do those updates?
[18:19] <Myrtti> that might have indeed messed up the file permissions on what Unit193 said
[18:19] <Suarte4> regularly....
[18:20] <Suarte4> nothing out of the ordinary
[18:20] <Myrtti> sudo apt-get... gksu...?
[18:21] <Suarte4> gui, update manager
[18:21] <Myrtti> ok
[18:22] <Myrtti> it's probably not that then
[18:22] <Suarte4> what next?
[18:23] <Suarte4> why do all other accounts work fine?
[18:23] <bioterror> becouse something is messed up in your ~/
[18:24] <Unit193> Might be interesting to know what he said after he was cut off. :P
[18:25] <Suarte4> Unit193: how do i remove .{X,ICE}authority ?
[18:25] <Suarte4> :)
[18:26] <Suarte4> I bet bioterror will surprise everybody by giving the solution very soon
[18:27] <bioterror> that would be too nice and easy for you ;)
[18:27] <Suarte4> bioterror: make me suffer then... :)
[18:28] <Suarte4> Unit193: what can I try?
[18:28] <bioterror> mv folder folder.bak
[18:28] <bioterror> startlubuntu
[18:28] <bioterror> mv folder2 folder2.bak
[18:28] <bioterror> until it starts
[18:28] <Suarte4> Unit193: I have no idea what to do about this
[18:28] <Unit193> You could always try and  ls -lha | grep root  :P  (Might need a -R in there. ;P )  Well, you could try and   rm -v .{X,ICE}authority   but it's not likely to help.
[18:28] <Unit193> SO I'd go with trying to move things.
[18:30] <Suarte4> Unit193: what exactly? it doesnt look like there's much to move...
[18:33] <Suarte4> Unit193: I think I am too newbie to communicate at your habitual level... :)
[18:33] <Suarte4> I dont see what to move
[18:33] <bioterror> files that could be configs
[18:34] <Suarte4> but that file isnt there
[18:34] <Suarte4> i tried creating it
[18:34] <Unit193> It's hidden.
[18:34] <Suarte4> didnt work
[18:34] <Unit193> Ctrl+h
[18:35] <Suarte4> how do you do it from terminal?
[18:35] <Unit193> < bioterror> mv .config .config.bak
[18:36] <Suarte4> I thought bioterror was joking the whole time, so it's not the case then.... :)
[18:36] <Suarte4> can this create big problems?
[18:37] <Suarte4> i mean is it a risky thing or not?
[18:40] <Suarte4> Unit193: so say the file is there and is hidden. and i move it. then wont i still get the same error that the file isnt there? sorry, i dont understand. forgive my newbieness :)
[18:41] <Suarte4> cp: impossible to create the standard file <<//.config/lxterminal/lxterminal.conf>> No file or folder of this type. ** Message: main.vala:63: Session is Lubuntu ** Message: main.vala:64: Session is Lubuntu DE is LXDE  (lxsession:6917: Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display:
[18:43] <Suarte4> ok i guess i just have to go give it a shot. but i have a feeling i'll be back soon :)
[18:56] <Suarte44> didnt work :(
[18:56] <Suarte44> i did mv .config .config.bak
[18:57] <Suarte44> then i did startlubuntu and got an awful lot of permission denied errors
[18:58] <Suarte44> then i tried sudo startlubuntu and just got the lxterminal.conf not there and the cannot open display error
[18:58] <Suarte44> what else?
[18:59] <Suarte44> HEEEEEEELP or i'll jump from the fifth floor
[18:59] <Suarte44> :)
[19:00] <Suarte44> it's a permissions problem.
[19:00] <Suarte44> i need to give permissions to my main user for everything in that .config folder. how do i do that?
[19:01] <Suarte44> Unit193: your intervention would be very appreciated...
[19:02] <Suarte44> Unit193 have mercy...
[19:12] <melodie> hi
[19:16] <Suarte4> in .config i have only leafpad, openbox and Trolltech.conf
[19:16] <Suarte4> there is no lxterminal folder
[19:17] <Suarte4> and there is no lxterminal.conf in the unexisting lxterminal folder
[22:15] <melodie> good night