[01:03] <jmite> I'm wondering if I could get some help with the Saucy beta. I'm trying to run Steam, and Netflix-desktop, but neither can connect to the internet. Firefox and thunderbird connect just fine. Any thoughts?
[01:04] <jmite> Steam Native, that is
[01:50] <SuperLag> anyone getting errors along these lines, on update attempts? W: Failed to fetch bzip2:/var/lib/apt/lists/partial/mirrors.us.kernel.org_ubuntu_dists_saucy_universe_source_Sources  Hash Sum mismatch
[02:04] <flippa6> no ads please
[02:04] <max64> which is faster ubuntu 13.10 or 13.04 in performance?  i use ho core 2 due laptop with 2 GB ram
[02:07] <wastrel> nobody knows
[02:07] <pfifo> the difference is negligible, 13.04 might be a tiny bit faster, cause 13.10 is unstable
[02:08] <pfifo> try lubuntu if you want performance
[02:09] <max64> pfifo:i dont like KDE
[02:09] <max64> i like unity
[02:09] <pfifo> its not kde its lxde
[02:11] <max64> i like unity and mate
[02:12] <pfifo> well then you want ubuntu, there isnt going to be much performance difference between 13.04 and 13.10, but you should use 13.04 unless your actually testing 13.10
[02:14] <max64> pfifo:with time ubuntu 13.10 will get stable i think case of updating
[02:15] <pfifo> max64, sure, october 17th, not too long to wait, but make sure to update daily
[02:18] <max64> pfifo:i downloaded ubuntu 13.10 beta 2 yesterday .. gonna install it tomprrow
[03:26] <pianogmz> im trying to upgrade from 13.04 to 13.10 but I am getting an error "Could not calculate the upgrade
[03:26] <pianogmz> An unresolvable problem occurred while calculating the upgrade.
[03:26] <pianogmz> "
[03:29] <pianogmz> anyone know what I can do?
[03:37] <vexati0n_> anyone else have an issue in 13.10 where gnome shell extensions are disabled every time you log out or reboot?
[03:46] <pepee> pianogmz, http://askubuntu.com/a/38833
[03:49] <pianogmz> thx... for some reason i found out i had to remove xorg-edgers via ppa-purge in order to get the upgrade process to work.
[04:56] <blocky2> what does it mean if the ubuntu installer sees my ntfs partition as 'unknown' but the livecd is able to mount it and view files
[04:59] <wilee-nilee> blocky2, This a windows 8 partition?
[05:00] <blocky2> windows 7
[05:00] <wilee-nilee> blocky2, Is the computer uefi?
[05:01] <blocky2> the installer isn't prompting me to install alongside so i was going to resize it manually
[05:01] <blocky2> wilee-nilee im not sure, how do i check?
[05:01] <blocky2> it has a bios
[05:02] <wilee-nilee> blocky2, Did it come with W8 originally?
[05:02] <blocky2> no w7
[05:02] <blocky2> its a toshiba laptop, a few years old
[05:02] <wilee-nilee> blocky2, This a computer you built?
[05:02] <blocky2> nope
[05:03] <wilee-nilee> blocky2, YOu buy it yourself?
[05:03] <wilee-nilee> new
[05:03] <blocky2> im sitting here with my brother and he bought it new
[05:04] <wilee-nilee> blocky2, take a screenshot of gparted and imagebin it.
[05:04] <wilee-nilee> !imagebin
[05:04] <blocky2> gparted is still loading
[05:04] <Ciphoenix> wilee-nilee : greetings
[05:04] <blocky2> been loading for a few minutes
[05:05] <wilee-nilee> blocky2, does windows run, I wonder if its a broken partition table is why I ask.
[05:05] <blocky2> wilee-nilee windows is failing to boot
[05:05] <blocky2> from the ubuntu installer i saw a separate boot partition and the main 300gb partition
[05:06] <blocky2> the boot was ntfs and the 300gb was unknown, but i was able to mount it and all the files appear to be there
[05:07] <wilee-nilee> blocky2, there is a smartdisc check in the live cd in disk manger or something like that check it.
[05:08] <wilee-nilee> strange that gparted is taking a long time to open is all
[05:08] <blocky2> oh actually its up
[05:08] <blocky2> sda2 shows ntfs with an exclamation
[05:08] <wilee-nilee> blocky2, take a screenshot
[05:09] <blocky2> k sec
[05:11] <blocky2> http://imgur.com/eHgc9Yy
[05:12] <wilee-nilee> blocky2, if you right click sda2 what does the info say on it?
[05:12] <blocky2> it says Warning unable to read the contents of this file system
[05:12] <wilee-nilee> Do you want to save anything on windows?
[05:13] <wilee-nilee> blocky2, anything on a fix like a chkdsk suggestion?
[05:14] <blocky2> nah it says maybe some tools like ntfs-3g are unavailable
[05:14] <blocky2> now that I know what the problem is I think we might just format the windows drive
[05:14] <blocky2> since we are able to mount it, we can copy stuff off it
[05:14] <blocky2> install alongside would have been more convenient but it's not vital
[05:15] <wilee-nilee> blocky2, I would copy off what you need, than go from there, I would check the smartdisc info to make sure the HD is not failing as well.
[05:15] <blocky2> ok thanks
[05:15] <blocky2> know offhand where firefox stores its bookmarks?
[05:16] <wilee-nilee> blocky2, hold on I'm on W8 right now let me look.
[05:18] <blocky2> my brother is completely non tech-savvy but he's trying ubuntu because he "didn't like any windows after xp" and because gaben said it was the future of gaming
[05:20] <wilee-nilee> blocky2, I'm not sure I would check the web that is all I can do, I use the FF sync myself.
[05:21] <blocky2> cool thanks for the help
[05:21] <wilee-nilee> blocky2, this might have the answer you will have to look through. http://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/Recovering%20important%20data%20from%20an%20old%20profile
[06:55] <pepee> hmm, vlc in videolan's PPA doesn't support VDPAU :(
[11:29] <BluesKaj> Howdy all
[13:37] <spidla> Hello, is there anyone who tried Ubuntu 13.10 ? I tested 64bit daily build, but I was stucked with some dpkg dependencies. It seems that apt-get/dpkg is unable to locate i386 dependencies on 64bit system. "apt-get install -f" is unable to solve this. It seems like there is somehow disabled 32bit libraries on 64bit system. Any clues ?
[13:38] <BluesKaj> spidla:  install ia32libs
[13:41] <spidla> BluesKaj
[13:42] <spidla> BluesKaj: I tried that. ia32-libs has been changed to lib32z1 and that pkg cannot be installed. Missing lib6-i386
[13:44] <BluesKaj> spidla:  ok install lsb-core
[13:45] <spidla> BluesKaj: lsb-core depends on lib32z1 and libc6-i386 :-)
[13:45] <BluesKaj> luvly'
[13:47] <BluesKaj> looks like dependency hell
[13:48] <spidla> It is. I know it is still beta, but it is unusable if you want apps like Skype, TeamViewer, wine
[13:49] <BluesKaj> spidla:check lib6 and it's dependencies
[13:57] <spidla> BluesKaj: Alright this is it: libc6:i386 depends on libgcc1:i386, this depends on gcc-4.8-base:i386 (among other things) and that is a problem. When I try to install gcc-4.8-base:i386, it forces me to remove 1509 packages
[13:59] <BluesKaj> whoa!
[14:00] <BluesKaj> well, spidla , it's a beta , maybe the removal will fix the mess , if not you can always do a clean install
[14:01] <spidla> BluesKaj: It does not matter, this is just testing VirtualBox-based installation. I was just curious. Well.. sticking to 13.04 for now :-)
[14:01] <BluesKaj> well VB with beta , one can't expect much
[14:02] <spidla> BluesKaj: I dont think this is connected with fact that it is running in VB. I know someone with the same problems on actual HW. Anyway.. thanks for some ideas. Hopefuly it will be fixed soon. Looking forward to Saucy
[14:04] <BluesKaj> spidla, I tried a stable kubuntu on VB and the results were disappointing , couldn't install guest additions
[14:05] <BluesKaj> VB is far from perfect when using linux guest on a linux host
[14:05] <spidla> BluesKaj: no doubts
[14:46] <ali1234> anyone else noticed that mouse button 5 (aka forward) no longer works?
[14:47] <ali1234> mine worked fine in 13.04 and every previous version for as long as i can remember but it is broken now
[14:55] <ali1234> never mind my mouse is broken :(
[17:43] <oz0ne> is it known aprox what kernel version the upcoming ubuntu will ship with? : )
[17:43] <Pici> !info linux saucy
[17:45] <oz0ne> ty
[17:50] <mystblade9_> How stable is the latest release of 13.10?
[17:51] <k1l_> its quite stable. but if you need to ask this you are better off with the stable realses 12.04 and 13.04
[17:53] <bekks> mystblade9_: It isnt released yet.
[17:53] <mystblade9_> bekks: I know that, I meant the latest release as in beta/release candidate
[17:54] <mystblade9_> k1l_: Hmm.. I guess I'll stay on 13.04 and just update it to the latest version
[18:30] <Xabster> i tried 13.10 in a VM and tried to get Steam but i failed miserably and my package system broke. It can up the day after and i think it was an error with cpp-4.8 in the repos, but anyway: is it normally easy to install and has anyone installed it flawlessly in the 13.10 beta?
[18:32] <pianogmz> hey guys, I dont know where to say this but i had a HUGE performance increase on my intel hd 3000 playing World of Warcraft .... in ubuntu 13.10 compared to ubuntu 13.04
[18:32] <pianogmz> im impressed
[18:35] <ali1234> Xabster: yes i have installed steam and it works fine
[18:35] <ali1234> all you do is get the steam.deb and run "sudo dpkg -i steam.deb && sudo apt-get -f install"
[18:35] <Xabster> that's what broke it :)
[18:36] <Xabster> but it was fixed
[18:36] <Xabster> cpp-4.8 was broken tar
[18:36] <ali1234> it worked for me
[18:37] <Xabster> not yesterday :)
[18:39] <ali1234> some weeks ago
[19:01] <johnjohn101> 16 more days!!
[19:35] <bekks> Am I missing something, or is it impossible - using the 13.10 amd64 desktop iso - to customize the LVM layout when installing?
[20:05] <pmatulis_> bekks: that doesn't sound right
[20:17] <bekks> pmatulis_: Thats what I thought, too. Is there a known bug report?
[20:24] <pmatulis_> bekks: i do not know
[20:26] <TheOnlyJoey|Lap> Ohai
[20:26] <TheOnlyJoey|Lap> i am trying out the latest daily of 13.10 and am setting up Nvidia proprietary 319 with nvidia-prime, the problem is that everything seems to work but i am getting a black screen
[20:27] <TheOnlyJoey|Lap> Its a GTX 770M and the logs are positive
[20:27] <TheOnlyJoey|Lap> could it be a modesetting issue or something?
[20:33] <TheOnlyJoey|Lap> modesetting seems to force xrandr 1.2, isen't 1.4 needed for nvidia-prime?
[20:34] <Volkodav> My upgrade from 13.04 stalled halfway at setting baobab (3.8.2.1) for good 20 min now
[20:35] <Volkodav> anything I can do to save the system from possible breaking?
[20:38] <TheOnlyJoey|Lap> It got the message "RandR 1,2 enabled, ignore the following RandR disabled message"
[20:38] <TheOnlyJoey|Lap> DPMS Enabled, Option "UseDisplayDevice" is not used
[20:53] <TheOnlyJoey|Lap> Im updating to edgers-ppa now, looking if that will improve
[20:58] <TheOnlyJoey|Lap> same result on latest edgers
[21:01] <BluesKaj> TheOnlyJoey|Lap, reboot before the driver can be used if it's graphics
[21:01] <TheOnlyJoey|Lap> BluesKaj, yeah did that
[21:02] <TJ-> Can someone do a test for me to confirm its not just a one-off? Play a music CD using Rhythmbox and then switch to VT1... does it stop playing? is it supposed to?
[21:02] <BluesKaj> the 325 nvidia driver wasn't stable on my pc , from xedgers ,had to revert to the 319 , TheOnlyJoey|Lap
[21:03] <TheOnlyJoey|Lap> BluesKaj, i have exact the same results on it as with 325, tried it before upgrading to edgers
[21:04] <BluesKaj> mine is better with the 319 , just an entry level 8400gs here tho
[21:04] <BluesKaj> TheOnlyJoey|Lap,^
[21:05] <TheOnlyJoey|Lap> haha this is the opposite, a GTX 770M, had no luck with 319 and support for this chip should be better with the 325, but exact the same issue
[21:05] <BluesKaj> think the 325 stiollneeds some work
[21:05] <BluesKaj> still needs
[21:06] <BluesKaj> TheOnlyJoey|Lap,what's the issue?
[21:06] <TheOnlyJoey|Lap> black screen after boot
[21:07] <TheOnlyJoey|Lap> and the xorg seems positive
[21:08] <BluesKaj> my issue was poor video decoding on HD 1080i , freezing and pixelating , the 319 is smoother and less jerky
[21:20] <mn3m0nic> Hello, Saucy here, searching "Bitcoin" into the Software Center: The only result is Bitcoin-Qt, nothing about Electrum (but it's in the repository). Where I can report this ?
[21:20] <mn3m0nic> (If I search "Electrum" into the Software Center I find it)
[21:25] <mn3m0nic> (If I search "Electrum" into the Software Center I find it)
[21:26] <mn3m0nic> woops
[21:28] <TheOnlyJoey|Lap> http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=electrum
[21:28] <TheOnlyJoey|Lap> try searching without the capitol E
[21:29] <Ponch0> Hello room, Ok I've had this issue since I first got 13.04 in december when I first bought this computer. My wifi signal is very choppy and for example even if a person walks by my computer my signal will drop. It's evident in downloads as those are very choppy and sometimes will just drop off to 0.  i've seen other people with the same card describe the same issues but none of the solutions ever work.  I was hoping this would be fixed in 13
[21:29] <Ponch0> .10 but it isn't, what can I do? pleeeeease
[21:29] <mn3m0nic> TheOnlyJoey|Lap, I'm able to find Electrum
[21:29] <mn3m0nic> The point to me is it's not listed into Software Center under the key "Bitcoin"
[21:30] <mn3m0nic> Try searching 'Bitcoin' into software center, you'll not find it, only searching "Electrum" you can
[21:30] <Ponch0> I'm desperate as hell, I've seen someone describe it maybe as a power management issue going to the card? but I have no idea how to fix that.
[21:31] <Ponch0> But some of those one line fixes haven't worked.
[21:31] <Ponch0> I love Ubuntu but this issue saddens me :(
[21:49] <Ponch0> Ok, after running "iwconfig", I see that power management is set to off, so I wanted to try and turn it to see if that improves the issue and I get an error, does anyone know how to 'fix' that??
[21:49] <Ponch0> Error for wireless request "Set Power Management" (8B2C) : SET failed on device wlan0 ; Operation not supported.
[21:49] <Ponch0> try to turn it on*
[21:51] <Ponch0> I'm on 13.10 btw
[21:51] <Ponch0> Same issue since 13.04, the older ubuntu releases don't work with my hardware, specifically with ethernet and wifi
[21:53] <Sander^Lap> I have an samsung 9 series with ubuntu 13.04 (it's a model which is not listed here yet: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SamsungSeries9 ) I upgraded to kernel 3.11 and a new firmware.. the grafical part works.. but no hardware acceleration. Will this work with 13.10?
[21:56] <Sander^Lap> I tried oibaf apt repository, and it segfaulted: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6156564
[21:58] <Sander^Lap> I'll try the beta very soon. Hope it works:)
[22:02] <Sander^Lap> Is it stable to do an upgrade from 13.04?
[23:10] <pianogmz> has anyone experienced wireless not starting up when coming out of suspend in 13.10?
[23:13] <pianogmz> i found this article : http://www.webupd8.org/2013/01/fix-wireless-or-wired-network-not.html --- -wondering if the situation is the same to fix for 13.10
[23:14] <brainwash> pianogmz: I can confirm that, but it happens occasionally, actually very rarely
[23:14] <pianogmz> brainwash, for me it happens everytime.
[23:15] <pianogmz> im looking over the steps in that article i linked to see if that fixes it
[23:16] <brainwash> looks reasonable
[23:17] <brainwash> pianogmz: fresh installation? default ubuntu?
[23:17] <pianogmz> upgrade.
[23:17] <pianogmz> 13.10 64 bit.
[23:19] <pianogmz> brb
[23:20] <pianogmz> well i think that fixed it
[23:20] <brainwash> great :)
[23:21] <pianogmz> suspended twice and it came back on... earlier didn't know what to do and just restarted.
[23:21] <pianogmz> so yey me
[23:22] <pianogmz> btw... i love the improvements for 3d rendering in 13.10
[23:23] <pianogmz> yesterday I was playing wow with 18 fps... now I can play with 50-60 fps
[23:23] <pianogmz> on an intel hd 3000
[23:23] <pianogmz> so thank you devs!
[23:25] <brainwash> the intel gpu driver is really awesome, getting better with every release
[23:26] <pianogmz> brainwash, yep.  earlier this year i dumped my windows installation (well i have it in a vm just in case) but i pretty much have everything running in wine now...
[23:26] <pianogmz> wine has gotten awesome.
[23:28] <pianogmz> so i guess if anyone has trouble with their wireless card like i did, they can use that link i posted up there...