[00:27] <rottinrob> starting to understand QML a bit...not too tough
[01:53] <hp_> Hello
[01:54] <mhall119> hi
[05:37] <mihir_> Good Morning guys :)
[06:59] <dholbach> good morning
[07:06] <mihir_> dpm: good Morning :)
[07:06] <dpm> hi mihir_ :)
[07:06] <mihir_> dpm: hello :)
[07:06] <mihir_> dpm: how can we see the database that we are using like contacts in calendar application ??
[08:47] <dpm> nerochiaro, when you've got a minute, do you think you could look at this bug to update translations? It should only take a few minutes to fix: http://pad.lv/1232374
[08:49] <nerochiaro> dpm: i can have a look but it's not really very clear to me what do I need to do
[08:50] <dpm> nerochiaro, the same thing you did when you added translations support: run the cmake rule that updates the .pot file and commit and push the new .pot file. oSoMoN did it for webbrowser already, and perhaps he can point you to it
[08:50] <nerochiaro> dpm: ok, i'll look into it shortly
[08:50] <dpm> thank you!
[09:09] <nerochiaro> dpm: i marked share-app as invalid as it's not used anymore, and phone-app has been split into dialer-app, messanging-app and i think another i can't recall right now.
[09:10] <dpm> nerochiaro, thanks. Does that mean I need to disable translations for share-app?
[09:11] <nerochiaro> dpm: ideally share-app should be removed entirely from the image
[09:12] <dpm> nerochiaro, thanks. Would you be able to find out the third app the phone app has been split into?
[09:13] <dpm> who's developing them?
[09:13] <nerochiaro> dpm: looking, maybe i'm mistaken :)
[09:13] <nerochiaro> dpm: boiko and tiago mostly
[09:14] <nerochiaro> dpm: it's address-book-app
[09:15] <dpm> thanks nerochiaro :)
[09:15] <nerochiaro> dpm: no problem
[09:45] <nerochiaro> dpm: can you confirm that address-book-app has no pot file at all ?
[09:46] <dpm> nerochiaro, indeed it hasn't got one :( -> http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~phablet-team/address-book-app/trunk/files/head:/po/
[09:47] <dpm> I've been setting the three of them up for translation in LP, and the other two do have one
[09:47] <nerochiaro> dpm: yes, i'm checking them now, one is outdated
[09:48] <dpm> nerochiaro, ok, cool, would you be able to create the address-book-app one as well?
[09:51] <nerochiaro> dpm: i'll look into it but i'm not very handy with translation stuff
[09:52] <nerochiaro> dpm: can you review https://code.launchpad.net/~amanzi-team/dialer-app/dialer-app-pot/+merge/188538 ?
[09:52] <dpm> nerochiaro, thanks! I'm happy to help with any questions or reviews. Ok, looking at that one :)
[09:55] <dpm> +1'd
[09:58] <nerochiaro> dpm: in address book app according to po/CMakeLists.txt it should be already possible to just say make address-book-app.pot and it should update or generate the pot. I'm not sure why the target doesn't work
[09:58] <dpm> nerochiaro, what error does it give you when you run it manually?
[09:59] <dpm> hi gusch, when you've got a minute, do you think you could look at this bug to update translations for camera-app? It should only take a few minutes to fix: http://pad.lv/1232374
[09:59] <nerochiaro> dpm: make: *** No rule to make target `po/address-book-app.pot'. Stop.
[10:00] <nerochiaro> dpm: gusch: i already took care of it, they are already updated
[10:00] <dpm> ah, awesome nerochiaro
[10:00] <gusch> ok
[10:00] <oSoMoN> hey nerochiaro, when you have a moment, can you please review https://code.launchpad.net/~osomon/notes-app/fix-pep8-warnings/+merge/188523 ?
[10:01] <nerochiaro> gusch: dpm: Same for gallery
[10:01] <dpm> nerochiaro, awesome, can you also link the branches to the bug so that I can keep track of which ones are remaining? Thanks!
[10:01] <nerochiaro> dpm: i already did for the one that i'm working on. marked them in progress as well. marked fix released the ones that are already up to date
[10:02] <dpm> rock on
[10:02] <nerochiaro> oSoMoN: maybe i exchange can i ask you to check how to generate a .pot file for address-book-app ?
[10:03] <oSoMoN> nerochiaro: sure
[10:05] <nerochiaro> dpm: all apps done. the only one that needed an update was dialer, and you reviewed the branch already. and address-boot which oSoMoN is looking at right now
[10:11] <oSoMoN> nerochiaro: so, in address-book-app source dir, just "cmake . ; make address-book-app.pot"
[10:11] <oSoMoN> nerochiaro: the thing is, for some reason the pot file is not versioned yet, so you’ll need to bzr add it, and the commit
[10:11] <nerochiaro> oSoMoN: i do that, it says there is no such target
[10:12] <oSoMoN> nerochiaro: try on a fresh checkout
[10:12] <nerochiaro> oSoMoN: it's fresh
[10:12] <oSoMoN> nerochiaro: fresher then :)
[10:12] <oSoMoN> nerochiaro: it works here
[10:13] <nerochiaro> oSoMoN: oh, wait. in all other apps i did make po/$appname.pot, and it works . here i have to do make $appname.pot to make it work. why the difference ?
[10:13] <oSoMoN> nerochiaro: no idea, in the browser I also do "make webbrowser-app.pot" and it works
[10:14] <nerochiaro> oSoMoN: ok, whatever, i have the pot now, so that's all that matters ATM. thanks
[10:15] <nerochiaro> oSoMoN: ah, the pot file has to exist, then you can do po/$appname.pot and it works. make voodoo
[10:17] <oSoMoN> nerochiaro: actually, it makes sense, "$appname.pot" is the name of the target, so it works regardless, whereas "po/$appname.pot" is the file that gets generated, and if it’s not previously there make doesn’t know which target it belongs to
[10:25] <nerochiaro> oSoMoN: good explanation
[10:50] <nerochiaro> dpm: https://code.launchpad.net/~amanzi-team/address-book-app/address-book-app-pot/+merge/188549
[10:59] <m-b-o> dpm popey: BLOCKED blueprints should not get potponed
[10:59] <m-b-o> ?
[11:00] <m-b-o> dpm, popey: POSTPONED  :)
[11:00] <popey> ey?
[11:00] <m-b-o> popey: in your mail
[11:00] <popey> they should if there's no way we can do them, surely?
[11:00] <popey> depends on the app
[11:02] <m-b-o> popey: okay. thanks. wasn't mentioned in the mail, so I was not sure about it
[11:03] <dpm> hi m-b-o, yes, as popey says
[11:03] <dpm> nerochiaro, reviewed, thanks!
[11:08] <om26er> oSoMoN, the webbrowser crashes for me when it tries to find my gps location on facebook.com
[11:08] <oSoMoN> om26er: is that on the latest image?
[11:08] <om26er> oSoMoN, very latest
[11:09] <om26er> oSoMoN, I am using saucy-proposed image
[11:09] <om26er> oSoMoN, is the gps location thing really supposed to work ?
[11:09] <oSoMoN> om26er: supposed to work, yes, but last time I checked it wasn’t working yet
[11:10] <oSoMoN> om26er: it wasn’t crashing though
[11:10] <oSoMoN> om26er: can you get a stacktrace and file a bug?
[11:10] <om26er> oSoMoN, how to get a stacktrace ?
[11:11] <oSoMoN> om26er: adb shell into your device, install gdb, and run the browser app in gdb
[11:11] <om26er> oSoMoN, ok
[11:26] <om26er> oSoMoN, the crash only happens with the facebook webapp.. how do I get a gdb trace for that ?
[11:26] <om26er> oSoMoN, opening the webbrowser and going to facebook.com and 'check out' work fine (i.e. no crash) doing the same with the web app causes the crash
[11:26] <oSoMoN> om26er: launch the browser in gdb, browse to facebook, wait for the crash to happen, and issue "t a a bt"
[11:26] <oSoMoN> om26er: ha
[11:27] <oSoMoN> om26er: what if you launch the browser with the URL of facebook as parameter?
[11:29] <davmor2> om26er: image 74 is balked so I wouldn't go mad testing it
[11:30] <om26er> oSoMoN, that doesn't crash
[11:30] <om26er> davmor2, I am pretty sure this issue will happen with 74 as well
[11:31] <om26er> davmor2, I am testing just for fun. I like to stay on the edge
[11:31] <oSoMoN> om26er: so you’ll need to run the browser with the exact same command line the webapp uses
[11:32] <davmor2> om26er: 74 has a usermetrics issues that means anything in usermetrics is broken so phone, sms, camera, nothing important though
[11:33] <oSoMoN> om26er: the command line is:
[11:33] <oSoMoN> aa-exec-click -p com.ubuntu.developer.webapps.webapp-facebook_webapp-facebook_1.0.3 -- webbrowser-app --enable-back-forward --webapp --webappUrlPatterns=https?://m.facebook.com/* http://m.facebook.com/
[11:33] <oSoMoN> om26er: try: webbrowser-app --enable-back-forward --webapp --webappUrlPatterns=https?://m.facebook.com/* http://m.facebook.com/
[11:33] <om26er> oSoMoN, yeah I was inside the desktop file
[11:33] <om26er> in .local/share/applications/
[11:39] <om26er> oSoMoN, no, does not crash this way :/
[11:40] <om26er> oSoMoN, do you have a maguro ? can you try if it happens there as well or is it just mako
[11:43] <om26er> tmoenicke, ping
[11:44] <om26er> tmoenicke, this keyboard view is jumpy http://i.imgur.com/TSnvwCQ.png
[11:44] <oSoMoN> om26er: yep, trying
[11:44] <om26er> the 123 should be always on the left
[11:44] <om26er> make the spacebar a bit longer
[11:44] <oSoMoN> om26er: so it’s simply launching the fb webapp, logging in, and accepting the location request, right?
[11:44] <om26er> oSoMoN, yep
[11:51] <tmoenicke> om26er: it is what?
[11:52] <om26er> tmoenicke, I said jumpy because when I tap on the '123' button the 'ABC' button appears on a different location
[11:52] <om26er> i would expect both to be at the same place
[11:53] <om26er> tmoenicke, compare these two http://i.imgur.com/hQ97B5F.png http://i.imgur.com/YMZxAyE.png
[11:54] <om26er> rather this http://i.imgur.com/tftvy5c.png and http://i.imgur.com/TSnvwCQ.png
[11:54] <om26er> tmoenicke, do you understand the issue ?
[11:54] <tmoenicke> om26er: thats how design wants it
[11:55] <tmoenicke> om26er: pls ping rachel and ask what she thinks
[11:55] <om26er> tmoenicke, ok.
[11:56] <tmoenicke> om26er: we might have to put a modified symbol layout which matches the layout of url_seach
[11:57] <om26er> tmoenicke, my ideal solution would be to consume the empty space that we have move the '?123' button to the extreme left and the / button following it. and make the space bar longer
[11:58] <tmoenicke> om26er: the design spec shows an empty area at the left
[12:10] <om26er> oSoMoN, regarding http://reports.qa.ubuntu.com/smokeng/saucy/touch_ro/4498/notes-app-autopilot/442410/
[12:10] <om26er> how about I change the tests to fetch images from local location ;)
[12:10] <om26er> instead of localhost/blabla doing file:///
[12:11] <om26er> oSoMoN, this came from Bill' email
[12:28] <GuidoPallemans> dpm: when are the app showdown results coming?
[12:29] <dpm> hi GuidoPallemans, I'd prefer not to commit to an exact time and not set expectations, as we're still not done with the voting (sorry)
[12:30] <GuidoPallemans> that's okay
[12:57] <oSoMoN> om26er: I’m not convinced this will improve things, but we can try that, yes
[12:59] <smartboyhw> dpm, where's your blog post? ;)
[13:00] <dpm> I've been busy with other things, we don't always get the time to do all what we're planning :)
[13:00] <smartboyhw> dpm, oy, didn't I say that no Hangouts for me?:P
[13:00] <dpm> smartboyhw, and did I not answer your question when you told me? :P
[13:01] <smartboyhw> dpm, you said we can use IRC
[13:01] <smartboyhw> dpm, wait, is the Hangout on Air or private?
[13:02] <dpm> exactly, but for those who can make it for the hangout, we'll use the hangout. I'm happy to schedule a follow-up meeting on IRC for those who could not make it
[13:02] <narekb> will the hangout record be available lateR?
[13:03] <dpm> smartboyhw, it's not going to be on-air, but I can see if I can record it and share it. You have got experience contributing to Ubuntu, so most of the things won't be new to you
[13:03] <smartboyhw> dpm, ah good it's not on-air, I can join then
[13:03] <dpm> ah, awesome!
[13:21] <oSoMoN> om26er: regarding the fb app crash, I just tested, and it found my location without even asking my permission, scary…
[13:21] <oSoMoN> om26er: I’ll delete the cache and retest
[13:21] <om26er> oSoMoN, good that it worked for you :)
[13:21] <om26er> the feature does not work at all for me
[13:22] <om26er> well it might be I am inside my room. gps generally works better out in the open
[13:22] <oSoMoN> om26er: no, not good, I don’t expect fb to know my location without me granting it permission to do so
[13:22]  * popey re-activates his dormant evernote account
[13:23] <smartboyhw> popey, heh heh
[13:24] <oSoMoN> om26er: ok, just got the crash
[13:24] <oSoMoN> om26er: have you filed a bug that I can confirm?
[13:25] <om26er> oSoMoN, in a hangout right now. I was reporting the bug but then did get the logs successfully
[13:26] <oSoMoN> om26er: I’ll try to get a backtrace, if you could at least file the bug I’ll attach them there
[13:26] <om26er> oSoMoN, sure Sir!
[13:32] <om26er> oSoMoN, bug 1233678
[13:34] <oSoMoN> om26er: thanks, and I managed to reproduce from the command line, it appears this is apparmour preventing the app from doing something it’s not allowed to do, need to dig further
[13:41] <tmoenicke> mzanetti: ping
[13:48] <mzanetti> tmoenicke: pong
[13:53] <tmoenicke> mzanetti: do you remember the issue at startup when the keyboard server was launched after the shell?
[13:53] <mzanetti> tmoenicke: yeah
[13:54] <oSoMoN> nerochiaro: can you please advise on https://jenkins.qa.ubuntu.com/job/autopilot-testrunner-otto-saucy/567/testReport/junit/notes_app.tests.test_quit/TestQuit/test_save_before_quit_with_mouse_/ ? I don’t understand the purpose of: if path is None: self.assertNotEquals(path, None)
[13:55] <tmoenicke> mzanetti: the keyboard comes up even if the server launches later. did it fix the issue?
[13:55] <nerochiaro> oSoMoN: looking
[13:56] <nerochiaro> oSoMoN: i think it's a misguided attempt to make sure to fail the test if the path is None
[13:57] <mzanetti> tmoenicke: I didn't test it
[13:57] <oSoMoN> nerochiaro: then there are clearer ways of achieving this, like throwing an exception
[13:57] <mzanetti> tmoenicke: but if you say that works now, yea, it's probably fixed somewhere
[13:58] <nerochiaro> oSoMoN: i'm sure, that's why i'm saying it's a misguided attemp
[13:58] <nerochiaro> oSoMoN: i would be happy to see that improved
[14:01] <om26er> oSoMoN, mind trying things without the server ?
[14:01] <oSoMoN> om26er: do you have a branch
[14:01] <oSoMoN> ?
[14:01] <om26er> oSoMoN, I don't i had a few meetings, after the standup I can work on that
[14:02] <oSoMoN> om26er: ok, if you can give it a try that’s good, because I don’t have time for it right now
[14:03] <om26er> oSoMoN, sure, I'll do that. just wanted to get make sure if the change will be allowed in.
[14:03] <oSoMoN> om26er: if it fixes the issue, sure it will be allowed in :)
[14:32] <om26er> oSoMoN, is video playback in browser coming ?
[14:32] <oSoMoN> om26er: it should be coming, although I don’t have an updated status
[14:32] <om26er> oSoMoN, who is working on that ?
[14:33] <oSoMoN> om26er: gstreamer 1.0 and hw decoding were supposed to give us that for free
[14:33] <om26er> oSoMoN, ok, i'll ask jhodapp
[14:35] <JoeyChan> Hi, balloons, sorry for my delay response, I still can't reproduce the toolbar's problem, so I need some info from u
[14:35] <balloons> JoeyChan, sure thing
[14:36] <JoeyChan> balloons    my system version:  Ubuntu Saucy Salamander (development branch) - armhf (20130929)
[14:37] <balloons> that's correct. So you run the autopilot test and the toolbar appears?
[14:37] <balloons> or are you simply using the app? the toolbar appears if you are simply using the app
[14:38] <nerochiaro> oSoMoN: test page is http://nerochiaro.net/test.htm (use the cat face image)
[14:40] <balloons> JoeyChan, ^^ ?
[14:41] <JoeyChan> balloons  I don't know how to use autopilot, just test the app in desktop and device
[14:43] <balloons> JoeyChan, ahh so the toolbar issue is autopilot only. The next button issue happens manually or using autopilot.
[14:44] <JoeyChan> balloons   I remembered u said that the bug also happened in ur device
[14:45] <oSoMoN> nerochiaro: I’m unable to paste anything in the notes-app now (running image from this morning), I tap everywhere on the popover and nothing happens, until after more taps it eventually crashes…
[14:46] <nerochiaro> oSoMoN: let me give it a shot
[14:46] <oSoMoN> nerochiaro: I’ve tested various times with reboots in between, no luck
[14:46] <balloons> JoeyChan, I can't add a feed on my device because there is no next button. If I run the autopilot test it fails to even open the toolbar to start the process
[14:47] <nerochiaro> oSoMoN: works here though
[14:47] <nerochiaro> oSoMoN: just hard to use with the popups
[14:47] <nerochiaro> oSoMoN: all being messed up
[14:47] <oSoMoN> nerochiaro: yeah
[14:47] <JoeyChan> balloons,   could u try this branch ?   lp:~qqworini/ubuntu-rssreader-app/optimization-0
[14:48] <oSoMoN> nerochiaro: btw have you had a chance to inspect the notes-app code re- the popups? it’s weird that it’s happening only in this app, it might be that the API from the SDK was updated, and the app needs updating as well, or something like that…
[14:51] <balloons> JoeyChan, try it, as in run the autopilot tests, etc?
[14:53] <JoeyChan> balloons,  I have no idea ...
[14:55] <balloons> :-)
[15:36] <daker> we are still waiting for the results :)
[15:39] <WebbyIT> Someone on saucy can check bug 1233168 please?
[15:39] <WebbyIT> bug #1233168
[15:39] <WebbyIT> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-calculator-app/+bug/1233168
[15:50] <nik90|Office> popey: are you attending the alarms meetings?
[15:50] <popey> yeah, was about to try and round some people up
[15:51] <nik90|Office> popey: I am still in office, but I will go out and join hangout on phone
[15:59] <popey> nik90|Office: i see you on the hangout
[15:59] <popey> twice!
[16:51] <randomcpp> hi folks
[16:55] <popey> nik90|Office: all good?
[16:55] <nik90|Office> popey: yup
[16:56] <popey> great
[16:56] <nik90|Office> popey: I will talk to lina regarding the clock app design for alarm activation
[16:56] <nik90|Office> as in when the clock app is called with the alarm url
[16:56] <popey> ok
[16:56] <nik90|Office> randomcpp: hey dude!
[17:05] <om26er> oSoMoN, https://code.launchpad.net/~om26er/notes-app/no_imageserver_autopilot/+merge/188654
[17:07] <oSoMoN> om26er: thanks, let’s see what CI says about it first
[17:10] <randomcpp> hi nik90|Office
[17:40] <mrqtros> Hi all
[17:41] <mrqtros> Can someone tell me where results of showdown can be find? :)
[17:43] <iBelieve> mrqtros, I don't think they've been announced yet
[17:43] <iBelieve> mrqtros, dpm said the winners would be announced sometime today
[17:45] <mrqtros> Seems that "sometime" should be earlier than 19 UTC :)
[17:46] <mrqtros> iBelieve, Ok, it was just for interest, btw - is 3g support is planning before 17 Oct? :)
[17:47] <iBelieve> mrqtros, 3g for the OS part of Ubuntu Touch? I don't know since I'm not an OS developer, just an apps developer & showdown participant
[17:49] <beuno> there is 3g support already, no?
[17:50] <mrqtros> beuno as far as I know no
[17:50] <beuno> mrqtros, I've seen plenty of people using 3g with ubuntu touch
[17:50] <mrqtros> iBelieve I am core app developer :)
[17:50] <mrqtros> beuno hmm ... seems that I use old image? :)
[17:51] <beuno> mrqtros, probably!
[17:51] <mrqtros> How can I check it's version? :)
[17:51] <beuno> not sure, popey or lool may know, if they're still around
[19:08] <lool> mrqtros: "sudo system-image-cli -i"
[19:27] <mrqtros> lool thanks, trying ...
[19:28] <mrqtros> lool build number 70. is it up-to-date? :)
[19:44] <lool> mrqtros: that's latest stable (and it should have 3G)
[19:44] <lool> mrqtros: but then it's possible your APN settings aren't detected correctly
[19:45] <mrqtros> lool I already set Wi-Fi settings via terminal
[19:45] <mrqtros> lool it was my best linux-sex :D
[19:46] <mrqtros> lool image are not writable first, later I first time use vi, later I edit wrong files...
[19:47] <mrqtros> lool seems that I haven't enough experience to set it manually :)
[19:50] <daker> so no announcement for today :(
[19:50] <lool> mrqtros: it's still rough in some places, quite expected at this point though
[19:50] <lool> but it's getting better
[19:51] <mrqtros> lool yes, we all must do our work well to get Ubuntu Phone work better
[19:53] <mrqtros> lool ui toolkit team, core apps teams (include me with "Shorts"). We all should do our best. When I keep my phone in hand it is like a miracle, really cool OS, with beautiful design and wide abilities
[19:54] <mrqtros> lool but there are a lot of bugs, 1-2 in every (every!) app, which spoil the whole impression
[19:56] <m-b-o> hey, does someone kknow if there were any changes to the LocaleStorage savepath?
[19:57] <iBelieve> daker, there are still two hours left in CEST timezone until midnight (that was the timezone dpm mentioned), so they're still hope :)
[19:58] <iBelieve> * there's
[19:59] <mrqtros> iBelieve forgive them :) They are working hard too :)
[20:01] <iBelieve> mrqtros, yeah, the reason is probably because of a bug that makes apps using a Canvas not work right on the phone, so they had some extra trouble to make sure those were judged fairly, which is a good thing. I'm just excited, that's all :)
[20:03] <mrqtros> iBelieve I wanted to participate too, but I am core app developer and already got device from Canonical :)
[20:04] <iBelieve> mrqtros, I'm a core app developer too (File Manager), but I still participated since the File Manager is pretty much v1.0 complete and I don't have a device (and would love one)
[20:04] <mrqtros> iBelieve so I am just a observer now :) But really want to know results too ;)
[20:05] <mrqtros> iBelieve can you explain few things about your app? :)
[20:05] <mrqtros> iBelieve about file manager*
[20:05] <iBelieve> mrqtros, sure, what do you want to know?
[20:07] <mrqtros> iBelieve can I open image/video/audio directly from your app? :)
[20:07] <mrqtros> iBelieve I tried (once, have no free time to play with device), but it was failure :)
[20:08] <iBelieve> mrqtros, until recently, devices did not support opening URLs (which is how the app works). It should be fixed now, though I can't verify that it works since I don't have a device.
[20:08] <iBelieve> mrqtros, but it does work on the desktop
[20:09] <mrqtros> iBelieve sounds good ;)
[20:09] <mrqtros> iBelieve what with icons? :) There are no default icons for media types? :)
[20:09] <iBelieve> mrqtros, there is no file/folder icon set yet. Plus our backend doesn't support file types yet.
[20:10] <iBelieve> mrqtros, one of the community designers was working on folder icons though
[20:10] <mrqtros> iBelieve ok, does app require special permissions to read fyle system? :)
[20:11] <mrqtros> iBelieve in my own app I use similar methods too get file system entries, but seems that it's failure :)
[20:11] <mhall119> mrqtros: yes, by default apps are sandboxed and limited in what they can read on the filesystem
[20:12] <mrqtros> mhall119 how can I get this permission too? :)
[20:12] <mrqtros> mhall119 without such permission my fully usable cloud storage client become fully useless :)
[20:12] <mhall119> mrqtros: you can't through the normal process, there are exceptions for the default/core apps that allow it
[20:13] <mhall119> mrqtros: understood, there's still a lot of limitations in our sandbox that need to be addressed, there should be a UDS session discussing what you need
[20:13] <mrqtros> mhall119 that it's ... very serious limitation ...
[20:13] <mhall119> mrqtros: I'd suggest you work with jdstrand (security team) to make sure it's something that is scheduled
[20:14] <mhall119> mrqtros: FWIW, it's not a technical limitation so much as a proceedural one
[20:14] <mrqtros> mhall119 mb someone should add something like "permissions : filesystem" to manifest? :)
[20:14] <mhall119> as in, how do we make sure an app that is requesting that access doesn't to evil things
[20:15] <iBelieve> mhall119, do you know anything about when the showdown winners will be announced? I'm very excited :)
[20:15] <mhall119> iBelieve: should be today, we're waiting on one last judge to finish scoring them
[20:15] <mrqtros> iBelieve how can I test your app? :)
[20:15] <iBelieve> mhall119, awesome news!! Today as in what timezone?
[20:15] <iBelieve> mrqtros, which? showdown app or File Manager?
[20:16] <mhall119> mrqtros: should be in the app store, all of the showdown apps have been published as far as I know
[20:16] <mrqtros> iBelieve showdown ;)
[20:16] <mrqtros> mhall119 what about android? :) There are a lot of third party file managers
[20:16] <mhall119> iBelieve: "today" as in "as soon as we have the final scores and can publish the results", that's the best ETA I can give you
[20:16] <iBelieve> mrqtros, search for it in the dash and install it. Easy as that :)
[20:16] <iBelieve> mhall119, thanks so much for the update
[20:17] <mrqtros> iBelieve I don't know it's name )
[20:17] <iBelieve> mrqtros, sorry, its Ubuntu Tasks
[20:17] <mhall119> mrqtros: that's a good question, again you should talk to jdstrand as he knows more about this and is able to make decisions about it
[20:17] <mhall119> mrqtros: join #ubuntu-hardened
[20:21] <mrqtros> mhall119 ok, I'll try to ping him :)
[20:22] <mrqtros> mhall119 without file system access my app is useless :( But it's pretty working port from MeeGo.
[20:22] <daker> does anyone know when the Picker component will land ?
[20:22] <mrqtros> mhall119 on MeeGo there are only one way to use Yandex.Disk (Russian cloud sotage service) - my unofficial app.
[20:23] <mhall119> daker: like content picker?
[20:23] <daker> mhall119: no, this one http://developer.ubuntu.com/api/ubuntu-12.10/qml/mobile/overview-ubuntu-sdk.html#pickers
[20:26] <mhall119> daker: ah....no idea, are they not in the current SDK packages?
[20:27] <daker> mhall119: no, there is a section on the gallery but nothing in /Ubuntu/Components/
[20:28] <mhall119> bzoltan: or kaleo might know
[20:28] <daker> i was told that there was a typo on the deployment script
[20:28] <mhall119> who told you that?
[20:29] <daker> zsombi‎
[20:30] <iBelieve> daker, The preview API site I think was showing it under Components.Components. Have you checked there?
[20:33] <daker> iBelieve: i don't have Components inside Components
[20:33] <steven_> working on a Linux OS--12.4.  Is there an upgrade?
[20:34] <daker> mhall119: 16:12:48 <zsombi> daker: there was a typo in the deployment :(
[20:34] <steven_> 12.10 is that an upgrade for linux OS?
[20:39] <mhall119> steven_: Ubuntu 12.10 is the upgrade to Ubuntu 12.04, yes
[20:39] <steven_> thank you for the help
[21:11] <rottinrob> good day everyone
[21:20] <daker> iBelieve: i guess there will be no announcement :(
[21:21] <iBelieve> daker, I asked mhall119 and he said this: <mhall119> iBelieve: should be today, we're waiting on one last judge to finish scoring them
[21:21] <iBelieve> daker, then he clarified today to mean when that last judge is done
[21:22] <iBelieve> daker, he said <mhall119> iBelieve: "today" as in "as soon as we have the final scores and can publish the results", that's the best ETA I can give you
[21:23] <daker> :(
[21:29] <randomcpp> do we know who won?
[21:30] <daker> randomcpp: no
[21:30] <randomcpp> :(