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dholbachgood morning06:59
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dholbachcan you guys see us?17:01
mhall119start your questions with "QUESTION: " and ask them any time during the session17:03
RAZORQQUESTION: There is 16 to go to Ubuntu Touch Release. Will there be images for other phones than nexus?17:05
RAZORQ*16 days17:05
RAZORQQUESTION: Will Mir be faster than xorg? And what first release of ubuntu will have it officialy?17:08
nakQUESTION:   Will the default graphics stack be xMir?17:08
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dholbachkeep your questions coming! please just make sure you prefix them with QUESTION:17:14
kgunnRAZORQ: wrt x itself vs a native mir environment...yes...at least, there is some data where we've run glmark2 on X vs native mir and seen mir perform better17:15
RAZORQQUESTION: There is 16 days to go to Ubuntu Touch Release. Will there be images for other phones than nexus?17:15
kgunnRAZORQ: i was looking for the data in a blog...but having trouble finding...17:15
kgunnRAZORQ: nak  mir is in the archive today for 13.10, xmir itself will be available as an opt-in for 13.1017:16
RAZORQOk, thx for answer :)17:17
kgunnRAZORQ: nak it was our goal to make xmir default, however we (i) felt our multimonitor feature simply wasn't to the point of making it default17:17
RAZORQkgunn and will xmir be on ubuntu touch too?17:18
kgunnRAZORQ: wrt phone images & devices https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Devices17:18
kgunnRAZORQ: xmir is a desktop only config....there is no x on touch17:18
RAZORQkgunn Btw. i heard that ubuntu touch will can run android apps (or emulate it). Is it true?17:19
mhall119RAZORQ: no, but we're investigating ways to support android app developers17:20
mhall119RAZORQ: Ubuntu Touch can use android *drivers* though, maybe that's what you heard?17:20
RAZORQmhall119 for me it isn't important i just use facebook and music (and phone and sms xD), but who know what will i need in  future. Now i wait for Image for my Sensation XL17:22
gilbert32well, i'm still waiting for an image for HTC HD2. very surprised none have came out yet. is it this hard?17:23
RAZORQBtw. when i install ubuntu 13.10 and want to login to ubuntu one when installing, its freezing (loading logo run, but i can wait for 2 hours and nothing). Will in finall version be repaired it? (Btw. Sorry for my english, im not native speaker :)17:23
mhall119gilbert32: generally if there's a cyanogenmod images it's not that hard17:23
RAZORQmhall119 For my phone there is Cyanogenmod (not official but port). I can make image, when i dont know programming?17:24
RAZORQIs it this easy?17:24
mhall119RAZORQ: I don't know, I haven't tried it personally17:25
mhall119https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Porting has instructions17:25
mhall119you can ask questions about anything, it doesn't have to be something we've covered in the hangout17:26
joseQUESTION: How can I follow all ubuntu on air activity? I'd like to participate more on the hangouts!17:27
SimonKQUESTION: will phones be shipped with UbuntuTouch 13.10? If yes, will Canonical ensure that there are updates to (atleast) 14.04?17:28
SimonKQUESTION: when will "Tablet mode" be focused by UbuntuTouch?17:29
RAZORQQUESTION: Steam announced SteamOS what is Linux. It will use Ubuntu or u don't know anything about it?17:29
mhall119https://twitter.com/ubuntuonair and http://www.youtube.com/ubuntuonair17:30
SimonKQUESTION: will Unity8 be shipped in 14.04 by default?17:31
gilbert32ubuntu is not supporting well my dual graphic cards (amd radeon hd 4250 and 5650). any idea for it? i always have to turn one off, which gives an error sometimes at shutdown, something like atom bios fail17:32
RAZORQIf it will be ubuntu is say bye bye to android and windows for ages :)17:34
mhall119http://91.189.93.79/api/qml/sdk-1.0/17:35
SimonKgilbert32, look at https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1062077 (especially comment 84) that helped me with my atom-bios-stucks17:35
dholbachany more questions?17:35
dholbachkeep them coming?17:35
kgunngilbert32: is that using standard ubuntu/saucy/13.10 ?17:35
kgunngilbert32: i suspect you're running the open source ati driver ?17:36
RAZORQQUESTION: Will new unity be faster? Because i really want to use 13.04 or 13.10 on my netbook but its really laggy (Apps run smooth but, dash is really laggy)17:36
gilbert32yup17:36
gilbert32kgunn: thanks, i will try the solution asap. i'm on ubuntu 13.04, and on the open source ati driver. they make it so much a pain in the ars :(17:37
SimonKQUESTION: will click-packages listed in the software-center (desktop)?17:38
SimonKQUESTION: will click-packages *be listed in the software-center (desktop)?17:38
kgunngilbert32: sorry, i can't speak to it...but i suspect its an issue for the ati open source driver...wonder if you used a proprietary driver if hybrid might be better supported?17:39
kgunngilbert32: only a guess17:39
RAZORQI think just dash should be improved, because rest runs well enough to work, for me :)17:40
gilbert32kgunn: each time i try proprietary drivers, normal or "legacy" ones, i end up with a non booting system, and a broken unity17:40
SimonKQUESTION: will Unity8 support windows? (as in: one/more windows per program)17:40
kgunngilbert32: hmmm, might be worth joining #radeon and #dri-devel on freenode17:41
gilbert32kgunn: thanks for your help. it's not so important at the moment, but i will check it later. Thanks17:42
uditQUESTION: Currently Ubuntu start and shut/log out process is so unsmooth.. First Panel and launcher disappear but desktop icon are there still.17:42
uditThen the icons disappear17:42
uditcan we have somethign like in Gnome?17:42
RAZORQQUESTION: So if Ubuntu Touch if full ubuntu with special desktop environment so there will be kde or other DE for it? Something like launchers in android17:42
SimonKim talking about desktop (and probably tablet too?)17:42
RAZORQ*is sorry :)17:44
dholbachRAZORQ, no worries :)17:45
SimonKQUESTION: will CyanogeMod rom-manager be used in "official" Ubuntu Phones too? (if/when they arrive), if Yes, will they be secured against "unsecure" OS-installations?17:45
SimonKQUESTION: are ther plans to support multisim / "hot sim-switching" on phones?17:46
dholbachthanks a bunch everyone!17:47
RAZORQQUESTION: If there be no developer for porting ubuntu to android device, will be canonical/ or someone do it?17:48
nakIs Flash still supported for HTML5 apps?17:48
RAZORQBye Bye all :)17:48
dholbachRAZORQ, I suggest you have a look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Porting17:49
dholbachand/or bring it up on the ubuntu-phone@lists.launchpad.net mailing list17:49
dholbachan/or discuss it in #ubuntu-touch :)17:50
dholbachhave a great rest of your day!17:50
RAZORQThank for all answers :)17:50
dholbachrock on!17:51
hatalar205Will Ubuntu Gnome use Mir or Wayland?17:59
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