=== _salem is now known as salem_ === salem_ is now known as _salem [06:59] good morning === _salem is now known as salem_ [17:01] can you guys see us? [17:03] start your questions with "QUESTION: " and ask them any time during the session [17:05] QUESTION: There is 16 to go to Ubuntu Touch Release. Will there be images for other phones than nexus? [17:05] *16 days [17:08] QUESTION: Will Mir be faster than xorg? And what first release of ubuntu will have it officialy? [17:08] QUESTION: Will the default graphics stack be xMir? === ChanServ changed the topic of #ubuntu-on-air to: Welcome to Ubuntu on Air! || Upcoming Schedule: http://is.gd/OWD4uc || Ask your questions at ubuntuonair.com || Follow us on Twitter: https://twitter.com/UbuntuOnAir || Subscribe to our YouTube Channel: http://youtube.com/UbuntuOnAirCurrent Session: Weekly Ubuntu Webcast - Speakers: jono, dholbach, mhall119 [17:13] Logs for this session will be available at http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2013/10/01/%23ubuntu-on-air.html following the conclusion of the session. [17:14] keep your questions coming! please just make sure you prefix them with QUESTION: [17:15] RAZORQ: wrt x itself vs a native mir environment...yes...at least, there is some data where we've run glmark2 on X vs native mir and seen mir perform better [17:15] QUESTION: There is 16 days to go to Ubuntu Touch Release. Will there be images for other phones than nexus? [17:15] RAZORQ: i was looking for the data in a blog...but having trouble finding... [17:16] RAZORQ: nak mir is in the archive today for 13.10, xmir itself will be available as an opt-in for 13.10 [17:17] Ok, thx for answer :) [17:17] RAZORQ: nak it was our goal to make xmir default, however we (i) felt our multimonitor feature simply wasn't to the point of making it default [17:18] kgunn and will xmir be on ubuntu touch too? [17:18] RAZORQ: wrt phone images & devices https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Devices [17:18] RAZORQ: xmir is a desktop only config....there is no x on touch [17:19] kgunn Btw. i heard that ubuntu touch will can run android apps (or emulate it). Is it true? [17:20] RAZORQ: no, but we're investigating ways to support android app developers [17:20] RAZORQ: Ubuntu Touch can use android *drivers* though, maybe that's what you heard? [17:22] mhall119 for me it isn't important i just use facebook and music (and phone and sms xD), but who know what will i need in future. Now i wait for Image for my Sensation XL [17:23] well, i'm still waiting for an image for HTC HD2. very surprised none have came out yet. is it this hard? [17:23] Btw. when i install ubuntu 13.10 and want to login to ubuntu one when installing, its freezing (loading logo run, but i can wait for 2 hours and nothing). Will in finall version be repaired it? (Btw. Sorry for my english, im not native speaker :) [17:23] gilbert32: generally if there's a cyanogenmod images it's not that hard [17:24] mhall119 For my phone there is Cyanogenmod (not official but port). I can make image, when i dont know programming? [17:24] Is it this easy? [17:25] RAZORQ: I don't know, I haven't tried it personally [17:25] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Porting has instructions [17:26] you can ask questions about anything, it doesn't have to be something we've covered in the hangout [17:27] QUESTION: How can I follow all ubuntu on air activity? I'd like to participate more on the hangouts! [17:28] QUESTION: will phones be shipped with UbuntuTouch 13.10? If yes, will Canonical ensure that there are updates to (atleast) 14.04? [17:29] QUESTION: when will "Tablet mode" be focused by UbuntuTouch? [17:29] QUESTION: Steam announced SteamOS what is Linux. It will use Ubuntu or u don't know anything about it? [17:30] https://twitter.com/ubuntuonair and http://www.youtube.com/ubuntuonair [17:31] QUESTION: will Unity8 be shipped in 14.04 by default? [17:32] ubuntu is not supporting well my dual graphic cards (amd radeon hd 4250 and 5650). any idea for it? i always have to turn one off, which gives an error sometimes at shutdown, something like atom bios fail [17:34] If it will be ubuntu is say bye bye to android and windows for ages :) [17:35] http://91.189.93.79/api/qml/sdk-1.0/ [17:35] gilbert32, look at https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1062077 (especially comment 84) that helped me with my atom-bios-stucks [17:35] any more questions? [17:35] keep them coming? [17:35] gilbert32: is that using standard ubuntu/saucy/13.10 ? [17:36] gilbert32: i suspect you're running the open source ati driver ? [17:36] QUESTION: Will new unity be faster? Because i really want to use 13.04 or 13.10 on my netbook but its really laggy (Apps run smooth but, dash is really laggy) [17:36] yup [17:37] kgunn: thanks, i will try the solution asap. i'm on ubuntu 13.04, and on the open source ati driver. they make it so much a pain in the ars :( [17:38] QUESTION: will click-packages listed in the software-center (desktop)? [17:38] QUESTION: will click-packages *be listed in the software-center (desktop)? [17:39] gilbert32: sorry, i can't speak to it...but i suspect its an issue for the ati open source driver...wonder if you used a proprietary driver if hybrid might be better supported? [17:39] gilbert32: only a guess [17:40] I think just dash should be improved, because rest runs well enough to work, for me :) [17:40] kgunn: each time i try proprietary drivers, normal or "legacy" ones, i end up with a non booting system, and a broken unity [17:40] QUESTION: will Unity8 support windows? (as in: one/more windows per program) [17:41] gilbert32: hmmm, might be worth joining #radeon and #dri-devel on freenode [17:42] kgunn: thanks for your help. it's not so important at the moment, but i will check it later. Thanks [17:42] QUESTION: Currently Ubuntu start and shut/log out process is so unsmooth.. First Panel and launcher disappear but desktop icon are there still. [17:42] Then the icons disappear [17:42] can we have somethign like in Gnome? [17:42] QUESTION: So if Ubuntu Touch if full ubuntu with special desktop environment so there will be kde or other DE for it? Something like launchers in android [17:42] im talking about desktop (and probably tablet too?) [17:44] *is sorry :) [17:45] RAZORQ, no worries :) [17:45] QUESTION: will CyanogeMod rom-manager be used in "official" Ubuntu Phones too? (if/when they arrive), if Yes, will they be secured against "unsecure" OS-installations? [17:46] QUESTION: are ther plans to support multisim / "hot sim-switching" on phones? [17:47] thanks a bunch everyone! [17:48] QUESTION: If there be no developer for porting ubuntu to android device, will be canonical/ or someone do it? [17:48] Is Flash still supported for HTML5 apps? [17:48] Bye Bye all :) [17:49] RAZORQ, I suggest you have a look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Porting [17:49] and/or bring it up on the ubuntu-phone@lists.launchpad.net mailing list [17:50] an/or discuss it in #ubuntu-touch :) [17:50] have a great rest of your day! [17:50] Thank for all answers :) [17:51] rock on! 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