[09:33] <rmg51> Morning
[09:39] <JonathanD> Morning.
[12:13] <teddy-dbear> Morning peoples, dogs, turkeys and everything else
[20:17] <HowdyDoody> afternoon
[23:45] <steven_> trying to understand how to move from 12.04 to 13.04
[23:45] <steven_> I'm working on a pc
[23:45] <rmg51> stay with 12.04
[23:46] <steven_> ok on the 12.04
[23:46] <steven_> thanks
[23:46] <rmg51> the only way to go from 12.04 to 13.04 is a clean install
[23:46] <rmg51> wait for 14.04
[23:47] <rmg51> both are LTS's
[23:47] <steven_> I was starting to think that way
[23:47] <rmg51> you can go from LTS to LTS
[23:47] <steven_> are there any graphic designers on this channel
[23:48] <steven_> understand the LTS
[23:49] <rmg51> I can't answer your last question
[23:49] <rmg51> you may just have to wait to see if anyone comes forward
[23:49] <steven_> thanks
[23:54] <steven_> rgm51--how will design changes in OS effect applications and the use of applications?
[23:56] <rmg51> if the changes are just cosmetic nothing will happen
[23:57] <rmg51> but in the past any design change had no real effect on apps
[23:57] <rmg51> all that happened was how you got to things
[23:57] <rmg51> think Unity
[23:58] <rmg51> just a different way to get to things
[23:58] <steven_> I'm thinking mostly of GIMP, Scribus
[23:59] <rmg51> the only real big change with Unity was it was very easy to add things to the panel