[00:00] <Territoriojoven> well i have no browser so im going to trust you
[00:00] <pfifo> hello world.py
[00:00] <Territoriojoven> not installed
[00:00] <Territoriojoven> ugh
[00:01] <Territoriojoven> stopping system V runlevel compatibility
[00:01] <Territoriojoven> what does that means?
[00:03] <pfifo> ssystem 5 was a (the) unix fr4om way back when, it used a system of 'runlevels' to start and stop services when booting up and shutting down, this all has been replaced by !upstart in ubuntu, but remains backwards compatible
[00:08] <pfifo> Im thinking about getting a cheap VPS to test out my latest program, it seems ubuntu isnt too popular of a choice for servers
[00:10] <Shadowandlight> FAPVPS is great, what ive been using
[00:13] <Territoriojoven> good news
[00:13] <Territoriojoven> i fixed it
[00:13] <Territoriojoven> bad news
[00:13] <Territoriojoven> my resolution is bad and i can't change it back
[00:13] <Territoriojoven> it only allows me 1024x768
[00:14] <pfifo> I had to put some crap in my /etc/rc.local to get my 1920x1080
[00:15] <Territoriojoven> what crap?
[00:16] <yellow_no_5> Just installed Ubuntu on a VM on my Mac. Takes a little while to get used to, but it's good.
[00:17] <pfifo> its not there anymore :(
[00:17] <pfifo> was it on this machine?
[00:17] <Hundred> does Mac have spyware?
[00:17] <Territoriojoven> xrandr wont change it
[00:18] <reisio> Hundred: hrmm?
[00:19] <pfifo> Territoriojoven, sorry I cant find the tutorial I used either
[00:20] <malinus> Why is it, that the older version of emacs (23) is the default one when doing apt-get install emacs. Instead of the newest version (that is actually there, "hidden" under emacs24)
[00:20] <Territoriojoven> but does it says something specific?
[00:20] <malinus> what is the thinking behind that?
[00:20] <Territoriojoven> maybe you added a line saying the resolution you wanted to use
[00:20] <Territoriojoven> maybe i can use it too
[00:20] <yellow_no_5> How do you switch the GUI. i heard cinnamon is a good GUI.
[00:21] <reisio> malinus: actually where?
[00:21] <reisio> yellow_no_5: install it, then choose it at the login screen
[00:21] <pfifo> Territoriojoven, I had to run 2 different commands, one to add the resolution, and one to change to it
[00:21] <malinus> reisio, it's in the repository. Just under emacs24, the default "emacs" installs emacs23
[00:22] <yellow_no_5> kool, thanks i'll try it. Thanks Reisio
[00:22] <reisio> malinus: it was probably added as emacs24 when it was still in beta
[00:22] <reisio> malinus: which according to Ubuntu might still be the case, stable upstream (Emacs devs) is not the same as stable downstream (Ubuntu maintainers)
[00:23] <malinus> reisio, oh okay. So it's kinda of a beta?
[00:23] <reisio> malinus: my guess is that it was not stable even according to Emacs developers when the package 'emacs24' was created
[00:24] <reisio> malinus: there is always a lag between upstream stable and distro stable, to make sure it actually is stable, as compared to the whole rest of the distro
[00:24] <reisio> when people sudo apt-get install emacs, they have expectations of stability
[00:24] <reisio> when they sudo apt-get emacs24, they probably haven't as much, since it's probably specifically a prerelease package
[00:25] <malinus> reisio, so in theory, the emacs24 isn't as tested with the rest of the ubuntu system and packages, so there could be some bugs, with let's say unity or whatever?
[00:25] <pfifo> Territoriojoven, this looks like it http://askubuntu.com/questions/95977/set-a-specific-screen-resolution-with-xrandr
[00:26] <reisio> malinus: in theory and reality
[00:26] <reisio> newer things cannot be as mature as older things
[00:26] <pfifo> malinus, theres like 8 version of emacs in the repos
[00:26] <reisio> they can be tested enough to be considered as stable as previous versions, however
[00:27]  * pfifo wishes there was like 8 versions of gcc in the repos too
[00:28] <malinus> I'm new to linux and all, but generally ubuntu is considered very conservative when it comes to software? So in theory the "standard repos" will be lagging more behind compared to other distros?
[00:28] <reisio> malinus: no Ubuntu is not conservative
[00:28] <pfifo> malinus, no not at all
[00:28] <reisio> but there's not much you can do about the lag besides throw tons of money and developers at the problem
[00:28] <AndChat-224721> !latest | malinus
[00:29] <reisio> ...or sacrifice stability/reliability/security
[00:29] <reisio> you pick one or the other
[00:29] <reisio> if you instantly make available upstream's code, you cannot remotely guarantee stability/reliability/security
[00:29] <pfifo> malinus, we have a LTS that is long term stability (currently 12.04) and a latest greatest release (currently 13.04)
[00:29] <reisio> not without a lot more money and devs than any distro is utilizing
[00:30] <reisio> in some cases there are even legal issues to consider, sometimes upstream changes licenses and other strange things
[00:32] <malinus> Funny how different it is compared to windows. On windows, you just find some software, and just assume the developers made sure there are no bugs. But I guess on linux there are more possibility of "cross-interferences" between software ?
[00:33] <Dr_Willis> you never assume the developers made sure there are no bugs.. thats 'impossible'  ;0
[00:33] <reisio> malinus: well what I do is assume the developers did no such thing :p
[00:33] <reisio> on Windows :p
[00:33] <reisio> the point being that theoretically Ubuntu maintainers are making sure any particular version of any particular package added to the repos breaks no other packages
[00:33] <reisio> which is, y'know, super great
[00:34] <Dr_Willis> on windows you are grabing software often from differnt sites. In ubuntu, you should stick to the tested default repos.
[00:34] <pfifo> malinus, you forgetting on microsoft, there are no bugs, there all features
[00:34] <reisio> :p
[00:35] <malinus> reisio, but in windows, how would a software break another software?
[00:35] <malinus> and how does that exactly happen on linux
[00:35] <Dr_Willis> malinus:  ive had .net updates totally break things.
[00:35] <reisio> malinus: any number of ways
[00:35] <reisio> on Windows each installer can basically do whatever it wants
[00:35] <reisio> there is no oversight
[00:35] <reisio> each time you install an application on Windows, you are tossing a coin
[00:36] <Roy_Ubuntu_13-04> from when i setup ubuntu i chose some preset path's for windows partitions and now i want to change them
[00:36] <reisio> there is no package management, at all
[00:36] <Ari-Yang> !offtopic
[00:36] <reisio> Roy_Ubuntu_13-04: you'd probably want to edit /etc/fstab, then
[00:36] <Dr_Willis> Roy_Ubuntu_13-04:  look in /etc/fstab  if its defined there.
[00:36] <Dr_Willis> Roy_Ubuntu_13-04:  the mountpoint directory must exist befor you mount the filesystem
[00:36] <malinus> reisio, yeah, I'm following you. But you just assume the developer took care of everything. I'm just trying to understand why this is so different on linux.
[00:36] <pfifo> malinus, if Software A and B each use Library C, and Software A upgrades Library C to a version that is incompatable with Software B... then Software B will stop working as expected
[00:37] <reisio> malinus: because assumptions are bad
[00:37] <Roy_Ubuntu_13-04> so the only thing i do is edit the path's in /etc/fstab and now only root has access, and sudo chown roy:roy /media/roy/windows_xp does not work
[00:37] <reisio> malinus: and also, yes, each installer has to basically provide all of its own libraries and deps on Windows
[00:37] <reisio> malinus: Unix systems try to minimize redundant things
[00:37] <Roy_Ubuntu_13-04> it will say it changed it, then when i repete it say it changed it again, instead or retained
[00:38] <Dr_Willis> Roy_Ubuntu_13-04:  you do not chown or chmod ntfs/vfat filesystes. You use the proper mount options in fstab
[00:38] <malinus> reisio, ah, so there is the thing. It's about the libraries. Thanks. And libraries are the same things we call .dll on windows right?
[00:38] <reisio> malinus: it's partially about the libraries, and dependencies
[00:38] <Roy_Ubuntu_13-04> the path's do exist before mounted and roy ownes them, and when i mount root ownes them
[00:38] <Dr_Willis> Roy_Ubuntu_13-04:  what is your exact fstab line for the filesystem?
[00:38] <reisio> malinus: and auditing and QA
[00:38] <Dr_Willis> Roy_Ubuntu_13-04:  the owner of the directory BEFOR the mount,m does not matter
[00:39] <reisio> malinus: basically every choice to be made, Unix makes the superior decision about what to do :p
[00:39] <reisio> malinus: you can still run the latest, unaudited, unreviewed, untested applications if you want
[00:39] <reisio> malinus: but they tend to not be easily available through repos
[00:39] <reisio> as that would defeat the purpose
[00:39] <Roy_Ubuntu_13-04> well i left the orginal parms the same, but tince they dont work now i been messing with them
[00:39] <reisio> except for particular distros, whose goal is that
[00:39] <Dr_Willis> !ntfs-3g | Roy_Ubuntu_13-04  worth a read for some good background info.
[00:39] <pfifo> reisio, for example, unif fragments file systems in such a manner as to speed up file access times
[00:40] <Roy_Ubuntu_13-04> UUID=90F4858CF48574EE /media/roy/windows_XP ntfs    user 0       0
[00:40] <reisio> pfifo: :)
[00:40] <Dr_Willis> Roy_Ubuntu_13-04:  you need to add some uid=1000 and perhaps dmask=0022 fmask=0022 type options
[00:41] <reisio> it's the difference between a motivation of developers who want to get paid, and those who want the software to simply be the most efficient it can be
[00:41] <Roy_Ubuntu_13-04> but it was much different
[00:42] <malinus> reisio, thanks, I think I understand it all a bit better now.
[00:43] <Roy_Ubuntu_13-04> i thonk this was the orginal UUID=90F4858CF48574EE /media/roy/windows_XP ntfs    defaults,umask=007,gid=46 0       0
[00:44] <reisio> malinus: more :p http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Package_management_system http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unix_philosophy
[00:45] <Dr_Willis> Roy_Ubuntu_13-04:  that would be a sort of odd 'gid' to use
[00:45] <Roy_Ubuntu_13-04> well thats the way the os did it from orginal setup before i ever touched fstab
[00:46] <Roy_Ubuntu_13-04> i dont know what gid affects
[00:47] <pfifo> Roy_Ubuntu_13-04, the part you changed affects how it is mounted, changing it back will fix it, if your trying to mount it in a different location you have to edit a different part of the line
[00:49] <Dr_Willis> im not on my ubuntu box to paste an example ntfs-3g entry from my fstab.  the ntfs-3g homepage has numerous examplkes and info about all the options
[00:49] <pfifo> Dr_Willis, not really, 46 is a sane choice 'plugdev'
[00:49] <Roy_Ubuntu_13-04>  pfifo: i left the orginal parm's alone .. I Only modify the path and then after root own the files
[00:49] <Dr_Willis> pfifo:  that would be for external media only? or internal as well?
[00:49] <Roy_Ubuntu_13-04> mine uses ntfs and not ntfs-3g, should i change that?
[00:49] <jmite> I'm wondering if I could get some help with the Saucy beta. I'm trying to run Steam, and Netflix-desktop, but neither can connect to the internet. Firefox and thunderbird connect just fine. Any thoughts?
[00:50] <Roy_Ubuntu_13-04> Both internal and external im mounting
[00:50] <pfifo> Dr_Willis, i dont thing there is a hardwireddev group, but it would be a suitable group too :)
[00:51] <Dr_Willis> Roy_Ubuntu_13-04:  the ntfs-config tool can automate most of this
[00:51] <pfifo> Roy_Ubuntu_13-04, you likely put a space character in the name of the new mount location
[00:51] <Dr_Willis> spaces in filenames/paths - a way common mistake. ;)
[00:52] <pfifo> Roy_Ubuntu_13-04, why dont you paste you new line so we can see whats going on
[00:52] <Roy_Ubuntu_13-04> pfifo, not true, no spaces in the entire path
[00:52] <jayhawker07> I have a data partition at /media/data, how can I get it to mount at boot?
[00:52] <Dr_Willis> jayhawker07:  make an entry for it in /etc/fstab
[00:52] <Dr_Willis> !fstab
[00:52] <Dr_Willis> !mount | jayhawker07
[00:52] <Roy_Ubuntu_13-04> UUID=727084FD7084C975 /media/roy/windows_7 ntfs    user 0       0
[00:53] <Roy_Ubuntu_13-04> but user was not there it was other stuff, i been tring to fix it
[00:53] <jayhawker07> ty
[00:53] <pfifo> Roy_Ubuntu_13-04, see that part that says 'user' it should read 'defaults,umask=007,gid=46' like in the original
[00:54] <Roy_Ubuntu_13-04> hey that was the orginal, and it makes it to where only root ownes it
[00:54] <Dr_Willis> be sure to unmount the filesystem  after you do changes, befor you remount it..
[00:55] <Roy_Ubuntu_13-04> UUID=90F4858CF48574EE /media/roy/windows_XP ntfs defaults,umask=007,gid=46 0       0
[00:55] <Dr_Willis> Roy_Ubuntu_13-04:  you ARE unmounting and remounting the share after changeing that file?
[00:55] <Roy_Ubuntu_13-04> now unmounting and remountion....
[00:55] <Roy_Ubuntu_13-04> its root:plugdev
[00:55] <pfifo> Dr_Willis, whats the right umask? im not good with this, 007 makes everything end up rwxrwx--- dosent it?
[00:55] <Dr_Willis> nothing like the same filesystem mounted to the same location 5+ times to confuse things
[00:56] <Roy_Ubuntu_13-04> root : plugdev
[00:56] <Dr_Willis>  the ntfs-3g docs  mention using 0022 most of the time i belive
[00:56] <Dr_Willis> if you want to See the files owned by your user. you use the uid=YOURUSERSID  option i belive
[00:56] <Roy_Ubuntu_13-04> how to find my userid
[00:57] <Dr_Willis> echo $UID   or 'uid' perhaps
[00:57] <Dr_Willis> mine is 1000 - first user alwyas starts at 1000 on ubuntu
[00:57] <pfifo> just `id`
[00:57] <Dr_Willis> and most likely you do want to be using ntfs-3g  not ntfs
[00:58] <Roy_Ubuntu_13-04> what does gid affect
[00:58] <Roy_Ubuntu_13-04> should i do umake=1000 or uid=1000 and take off umask
[00:59] <pfifo> Roy_Ubuntu_13-04, the group that owns the file
[00:59] <Dr_Willis> leave umask.
[00:59] <Dr_Willis> umask is what sets the  rwx permissions
[00:59] <Roy_Ubuntu_13-04> leave umaks as what
[00:59] <Dr_Willis> uid/gid - sets the owner and group
[00:59] <Dr_Willis> ntfs-3g docs/faq mention other options my may want to use in other cases
[01:00] <pfifo> Roy_Ubuntu_13-04, try this 'defaults,umask=007,gid=1000,uid=1000'
[01:01] <MKCoin> can I restart compiz without everything imploding?
[01:01] <reisio> MKCoin: probably
[01:02] <Dr_Willis> MKCoin:  compiz --replace &  from a terminal or alt-f2 and compiz --replace
[01:02] <Roy_Ubuntu_13-04> that did the job.. defaults,umask=007,gid=1000,uid=1000
[01:02] <Dr_Willis> that sets it where ONLY that user can access the files Roy_Ubuntu_13-04
[01:02] <jmite> Question: I'm wondering if I could get some help with the Saucy beta. I'm trying to run Steam, and Netflix-desktop, but neither can connect to the internet. Firefox and thunderbird connect just fine. Any thoughts?
[01:03]  * pfifo feels sorry for all the plugdev users that just got the boot
[01:03] <Roy_Ubuntu_13-04> ok, what if i wanted any and every user
[01:03] <Dr_Willis> jmite:  you mean the linux nativ3e steam client? or windows steam in wine? and 13.10 support in #ubuntu+1 and wine support in #winehq
[01:03] <Dr_Willis> Roy_Ubuntu_13-04:  then you need options simile rto what you had eralier with the plugdev.
[01:03] <jmite> Native, didn't know about the +1 irc. Thanks!
[01:03] <reisio> jmite: I'm not sure but pipelight may have superseded netflix-desktop
[01:03] <MKCoin> Dr_Willis: will that affect the placement of windows in my unity panels?
[01:03] <Dr_Willis> !steam
[01:03] <Dr_Willis> MKCoin:  windows on the panel? huh
[01:03] <Roy_Ubuntu_13-04> i do use wine on that drive, with current settings do u forsee any problems
[01:04] <MKCoin> I mean, workspaces
[01:04] <pfifo> Dr_Willis, put each and every user into the plugdev group and use group permissions insterad of owner permissions
[01:04] <Dr_Willis> MKCoin:  no idea.
[01:04] <Dr_Willis> pfifo:  i think that may be the default :) i only got 1 user here.
[01:05] <pfifo> Roy_Ubuntu_13-04, no as long as your running wine as your current user
[01:05] <pfifo> Dr_Willis, you can always create a login for me :D
[01:06] <Roy_Ubuntu_13-04> ok, so what would i set for any user to read and write, and roy as owner
[01:06] <TNTS> Hi, I came across a problem with Flash. I can't seem to navigate around the settings. I've reinstalled the plugin but still nothing happened
[01:06] <Roy_Ubuntu_13-04> just for any future problems to avoid them before they happen
[01:07] <pfifo> Roy_Ubuntu_13-04, `defaults,umask=007,uid=1000,gid=46` and then add users to the plugdev group ex 'sudo useradd pfifo plugdev' to give them access
[01:07] <Roy_Ubuntu_13-04> ok ttyl
[01:08] <wylde> TNTS: that's been a problem for quite a while. You can manage the settings here: http://www.macromedia.com/support/documentation/en/flashplayer/help/settings_manager.html
[01:08] <Dr_Willis> the ntfs-config tool has checkboxs for this :)
[01:08] <Roy_Ubuntu_13-04> till next time
[01:08] <pfifo> TNTS, thats a known problem
[01:08] <Dr_Willis> TNTS:  fullscreen the flash player is one 'common' fix.
[01:08] <skinux> How can we merge Ubuntu's partition with another partition? Can it be done using GParted?
[01:09] <Dr_Willis> skinux:  shrink one. enlarge other.. mount them, copy/move files over.. unmount them, repeat
[01:09] <scottyinzeo> hi all - running 13.10 on a macbook pro 6,2 using the nouveau open source driver - upon resume after suspend, the system seems to freeze with just the wallpaper appearing - any ideas on a fix for this?
[01:09] <Dr_Willis> skinux:  unless you have no files one of the partions/ then you just delete it and resize the other
[01:09] <TNTS> Awesome thanks Dr_Willis
[01:11] <TonyMontana> hello
[01:11] <pfifo> world
[01:16] <Roy_Ubuntu_13-04> nnnnooooooooo i just used ntfs-config out of curiosity .. just after i had it working in fstab,
[01:16] <skinux> I deleted one, but resize is grayed out for Ubuntu's partition.
[01:16] <Roy_Ubuntu_13-04> can u repete the line with the *=1000 stuff
[01:17] <pfifo> skinux, cause its mounted, you should be doing this from a livecd!!
[01:17] <pfifo> Roy_Ubuntu_13-04, `defaults,umask=007,uid=1000,gid=46` and then add users to the plugdev group ex 'sudo useradd pfifo plugdev' to give them access
[01:17] <skinux> Oh. Duh! Thank you./
[01:17] <Roy_Ubuntu_13-04> ntfs-config did it like this and only root owns it UUID=90F4858CF48574EE   /media/roy/windows_XP   ntfs-3g defaults,locale=en_US.UTF-8     0       0
[01:18] <Roy_Ubuntu_13-04> thanks
[01:19] <Roy_Ubuntu_13-04> would the locale=en_US.UTF-8 be a good thing to leave on there , what does it do
[01:19] <Dr_Willis> ntfs-config has check box's to all ow all users to have full access
[01:20] <Dr_Willis> !ntfs-3g | Roy_Ubuntu_13-04
[01:20] <Dr_Willis> the ntfs-3g docs should detail all the options. that sets the local for  the filenames i belive.
[01:21] <Roy_Ubuntu_13-04> what does the local for the file names do
[01:21] <Dr_Willis> !local
[01:22] <Dr_Willis> !locale
[01:22] <Dr_Willis> its what language you are using
[01:22] <Dr_Willis> english  United states
[01:23] <pfifo> is there a locale for moon/mars or other extra-planetary ares yet?
[01:23] <reisio> there would have to be a language variant for those places first
[01:24] <Dr_Willis> pfifo:  i saw a 'redneck' language on some disrto years ago.
[01:24] <ToBeinfinit_> .info
[01:24] <pfifo> what do the computes on ISS use for timezone?
[01:25] <reisio> I think the ISS could probably keep track of what timezone it was nearest
[01:26] <Biomechd> hey guys, what can you tell me about my rhythmbox from this? http://pastebin.com/9BYaVNy1
[01:27] <htpc_> xboxdrv doesn't handle hibernate/thaw correctly so I wrote a script to toggle it and made an entry in sleep.d, weird behaviour the script actually _prevents_ the pc from hibernating and when it wakes up causes the network to drop -- advice? http://paste.ubuntu.com/6177891/
[01:27] <Biomechd> i'm hoping it has something to do with why rhythmbox refuses to stream a vast majority of my music via wlan from a windows 7 host computer.
[01:27] <reisio> htpc_: vboxdrv?
[01:28] <htpc_> reisio, xboxdrv, usermode driver for wireless xbox 360 controller
[01:28] <hfase> Why not mount a share and play your music with any app
[01:29] <hfase> I usually set up the other way around samba sharing to windows
[01:31] <pfifo> Biomechd, do you have the right codecs installed?
[01:31] <Biomechd> pfifo: no idea.
[01:31] <pfifo> Biomechd, I swaer by VLC `sudo apt-get install vlc-nox`
[01:32] <reisio> without X you may as well use mplayer :)
[01:33] <Biomechd> pfifo: i tried installing vlc but there's something wrong with my ubuntu's repositories or install scripts or something. it refuses to install a lot of things i try to put on.
[01:33] <pfifo> Biomechd, you may need to enable the universe and multiverse repositories
[01:38] <Biomechd> pfifo: that's just it. i can't. i can't enable them in the software center, and i don't think i can enable them in sources.list. i could try editing the text file, though, in hopes that maybe something changed it in an update and messed stuff up again.
[01:39] <uronu> hello guys, is there a different between php-ldap in fedora and php5-ldap in ubuntu?
[01:39] <pfifo> Biomechd, what happens when you run `sudo apt-get install vlc-nox` put it all in a pastebin
[01:39] <uronu> !php-ldap
[01:39] <uronu> !php5-ldap
[01:39] <pfifo> !info php5-ldap
[01:40] <uronu> pfifo: thanks
[01:40] <uronu> !info php-ldap
[01:41] <Biomechd> pfifo: http://pastebin.com/1Sxc3WF7
[01:41] <pfifo> uronu, there is most likely a difference in the version, maybe more than that
[01:41] <pfifo> Biomechd, do you have any PPA's installed?
[01:42] <Biomechd> pfifo: i dunno.
[01:43] <pfifo> Biomechd, pastebin the output of `sudo apt-get install -f`
[01:43] <Gordon11> Howdy, I have a lenovo y510p with SLI 750m.  I am having trouble getting the nvidia driver installed. Is there anyone that can help?
[01:44] <Biomechd> pfifo: http://pastebin.com/KZ4qRA0f
[01:44] <uronu> pfifo: All I want is that my ldap user can change their password through web. And I what I found is that there is a tool like php-ldap on fedora that the ldap user can change their passwd. I think php5-ldap on ubuntu is same with it.
[01:45] <Gordon11> I have tried both 13.04 and 13.10-beta along with various tutorials found on the web. The odd issue with this laptop is that these cards are normally optimus with the CPU GPU but on this system, the Haswell GPU is disabled so I am not sure if bumblebee or prime apply
[01:46] <dman777> how come my /etc/bash.bashrc is not being sourced when i log in?
[01:47] <pfifo> Biomechd, try `sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install vlc-nox` again pastebin the output
[01:47] <pfifo> uronu, not sure about that, never used ldap
[01:48] <UrielVigilante> GOod night, iam confused about user sudo, sudo su and root, and even more with username or with out it....even after seing this video and respetiv webpage http://wiki.ubuntu-br.org/RootSudo#O_que_.2BAOk_.22Root.22_e_.22Sudo.22.3F_Por_que_usar_e_como_usar
[01:50] <pfifo> dman777, I think you have to get your ~/.bashrc to source /etc/bash.bashrc
[01:50] <UrielVigilante> should i create a username for sudo ? should i creat a password for it ?
[01:50] <dman777> pfifo: thanks
[01:51] <pfifo> UrielVigilante, no, you simply add users to the sudo group ex `sudo usedadd pfifo sudo`
[01:52] <Sacrelicious> hello all, I was running Cinnamon for my desktop in Ubuntu, and after installing some new desktop environments to try out, it disappeared off my list of options when I login.
[01:52] <Sacrelicious> When I try to reinstall from the terminal, it tells me it is unable to install, i may have held broken packages.
[01:52] <Sacrelicious> how do I fix this?
[01:54] <pfifo> Sacrelicious, try a 'sudo apt get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade'
[01:54] <UrielVigilante> pfifo: but should i create a password for root, and make the system ask always for the password even in  normal mode ?
[01:54] <wylde> !root | UrielVigilante
[01:55] <pfifo> UrielVigilante, no... that password that sudo asks for is the users password
[01:55] <UrielVigilante> !root
[01:56]  * reisio bends his root pw
[01:56] <wilee-nilee> UrielVigilante, You running ubuntu or a derivative?
[01:56] <sil> ...
[01:57] <MangaKaDenza> question
[01:57] <reisio> ya?
[01:57] <MangaKaDenza> does Ubuntu do WPS?
[01:57] <reisio> MangaKaDenza: for wireless?
[01:57] <MangaKaDenza> yesh
[01:57] <reisio> AFAIK yes, though you want to disable WPS, it's a huge security hole
[01:58] <MangaKaDenza> now
[01:58] <UrielVigilante> wilee-nilee: iam using ubuntu 13.04 usb persistent
[01:58] <MangaKaDenza> how do I initiate a wps?
[01:58] <reisio> it basically guarantees anyone can root your router
[01:58] <MangaKaDenza> er
[01:58] <MangaKaDenza> wps connection?
[01:59] <reisio> MangaKaDenza: there'll be a number printed on the router
[01:59] <reisio> MangaKaDenza: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wi-Fi_Protected_Setup#Methods
[01:59] <wilee-nilee> UrielVigilante, why, and what for?
[01:59] <rodicio> Hi, I have a easy problem. I tryed to update the sistem but I can't. I don't know where begin to repair. Here the information that I could get:   http://pastebin.com/cjQZTiCe
[02:01] <UrielVigilante> My problem is, if iam using ubuntu 13.04 usb persistent, in a laptop with Vista, could be my data on hard drive of Vista in Danger when iam connected to the internet by wifi , or even by ethernet . I will be safer is i create a user name and work there with password programed to ask for all time s and for all modes... when we type something in terminal ?
[02:01] <xangua> rodicio: did you add a third party repository¿
[02:01] <sil> Is there going to be some backport for vlc 2.1 without building?
[02:01] <Dr_Willis> UrielVigilante:  dont mount the windows partions, and they cant be accessed. and  i doubt if it would be any risk in any case
[02:01] <rodicio> xangua,  I think not
[02:02] <Dr_Willis> sil:  look for a ppa yet?
[02:02] <sil> I found the videolan daily stable buidls
[02:02] <sil> gonna try that out
[02:02] <max64> which is faster in performance ubuntu 13.10 or 13.4 .. i use hp core 2 due laptop with 2.1 GHz processor and 2 FB ram
[02:02] <rodicio> xangua,  I have installed Opera, chromium and no more
[02:03] <pfifo> max64, 13.10 questions belong in #ubuntu+1
[02:03] <max64> @pfifi:thanks
[02:03] <UrielVigilante> Dr_Willis: to unmount in graphic mode how to do it in side bar ? left click on ti , then what ?
[02:04] <Dr_Willis> UrielVigilante:  filoe manager has an  eject/umount, or somthing item in the menus
[02:05] <Dr_Willis> or a little arrow to eject
[02:05] <Dr_Willis> !manual | UrielVigilante
[02:06] <Dr_Willis> UrielVigilante:  i imagine you are being overly paranoid.  The browser is not normally going to access arbitary files in the users home. If it could that would be a major security issue. Just dont run java or other stuff  you dont recognize in the browser.
[02:06] <MangaKaDenza> uh
[02:07] <MangaKaDenza> anybody?
[02:07] <sil> what
[02:07] <UrielVigilante> Dr_Willis: But when i do unmount in file manager, all files disappear from the screen, but in side bar, the icon of the hard drive still there. That sure the disk is unmounted?
[02:07] <MangaKaDenza> er
[02:07] <MangaKaDenza> I couldn;t figure out how to wps
[02:07] <Dr_Willis> UrielVigilante:  its showing unmounted volumes.
[02:08] <Dr_Willis> UrielVigilante:  try the 'mount' command and look
[02:08] <Dr_Willis> !mount | UrielVigilante
[02:08] <UrielVigilante> ok, thanks , then i should be safe..i hope!
[02:08] <UrielVigilante> !mount
[02:08] <rodicio> xangua,  You could help me? Where do I look for?
[02:10] <UrielVigilante> Dr_Willis: About the JAva, i have the restrited package. Should i remove something to be safely or dont run java ?
[02:11] <Dr_Willis> UrielVigilante:  i doubt if its going to be an issue. If you dont allow stuff to run, or remove java if you want. I dont worry about it.
[02:11] <Dr_Willis> \!java
[02:11] <Dr_Willis> !java
[02:11] <Dr_Willis> UrielVigilante:  by using linux, youi are allready 100x+ safer then if you were using windows
[02:12] <UrielVigilante> You don know how happy iam , just to hear it from you!
[02:12] <Dr_Willis> then again - a little common sence goes a LONG way on windows and linux. ;)
[02:13] <UrielVigilante> !java
[02:13] <Dr_Willis> biggest danger to a pc - seems to be the users doing stupid stuff these days
[02:13] <ramon> anyone could tell me if any application that allows interact between ubuntu and an android device?
[02:14] <UrielVigilante> Playing ONLive games, could be a danger ?
[02:14] <Dr_Willis> if you want to be truely paranoid/secure/anonymous - thres those anonymous browser disrtos out there. but i forget the names. check the disrtowatch hhomepage
[02:14] <reisio> ramon: what kind of interaction?
[02:14] <Dr_Willis> ramon:  #1 thing to get would be 'airdroid' on android
[02:14] <ramon> reisio, data sharing
[02:14] <Dr_Willis> ramon:  you can set up samba, or ssh on android. :) to get all the data you want.
[02:15] <reisio> yeah, sftp is going to be the simplest
[02:15] <reisio> and bluetooth
[02:15] <UrielVigilante> Dr_Willis: I use to play Onlive aplication with wine , could be a danger ?
[02:15] <StarFlower> plex media server lets you watch your videos on your android
[02:15] <Dr_Willis> UrielVigilante:  no idea. Never heard of it.
[02:15] <ramon> is there anything where i can use the usb cable connection?
[02:15] <UrielVigilante> To play playstation games on old laptops ...
[02:16] <Dr_Willis> Plex Is a very nice UPNP/DLNA server setup.  theres evena Plex-Pi client, and Plex clienbts for the Rokus that make watching videos a snap.
[02:16] <reisio> ramon: yes, but it's going to be more work, not less
[02:16] <UrielVigilante> Streaming video games ...
[02:16] <Dr_Willis> ramon:  wifi will be faster i find then any usb connection
[02:16] <ramon> reisio i have not other option for now
[02:16] <Dr_Willis> UrielVigilante:  seen some onlive console ages ago. but i thought the company went under.  I dont use it. i doubt if its a security issue
[02:17] <reisio> ramon: what exactly do you want to do?
[02:17] <ramon> Dr_Willis, i have not any wireless device on my computer
[02:17] <UrielVigilante> You play games running on their seervers, and and streaming fr you On live....
[02:18] <ramon> reisio, i want to transfer files back and fore
[02:18] <reisio> ramon: well if you connect it you should be able to mount the filesystems like any external drive
[02:18] <reisio> ramon: but I advise caution, particularly if you want to remove files from the device
[02:18] <reisio> I wouldn't
[02:18] <Dr_Willis> ramon:  seen wifi routers for $10  ;) not fast. but  cheap.   I dont use  the usb cables any more for  data transfers.
[02:19] <reisio> Android is not a very smart OS
[02:19] <UrielVigilante> http://games.onlive.com/
[02:19] <reisio> I have removed photographs from an Android filesystem before and it decided the OS had to be reinstalled as a result
[02:19] <Dr_Willis> UrielVigilante:  if you are worried about the sevice not being secure. then google for  their name and see if theres any security issues with them.
[02:20] <Dr_Willis> reisio:  thats must have been a neat trick.
[02:20] <ramon> Dr_Willis, send me one over seas and i will really appreciate it...although you also can send me an spare video card which i also need
[02:20] <ramon> i guess i wait till ubuntu goes mobile
[02:21] <Dr_Willis> ramon:  time to hit the rummage sales I guess.  You can mount android phones as usb devices via cable. so im not sure what you are really asking any more.
[02:21] <Dr_Willis> the MTP support can be a little quirky in some ubuntu releases. Its gotten better i hear in 13.04+
[02:22] <reisio> Dr_Willis: "neat" is one word for it
[02:23] <pfifo> we need to get away from touch screens and start moving back towards teminal... preferably teletypes that print to paper
[02:23] <ramon> i thought androind could connect to the PC share internet connection and run applications fron either side
[02:23] <Dr_Willis> pfifo:  i used to IRC on greenbar printing terminals.
[02:23] <Dr_Willis> ramon:  i can run vnc on my phone and get to the pc to do things.. or visa versa
[02:24] <ramon> vnc?
[02:24] <Dr_Willis> theres numerous desktop-shareing apps out for androiud and pc. that let you get to the phone from the pc.. or visa-versa
[02:24] <pfifo> im going to bed
[02:24] <Dr_Willis> teamviewer exists for android also i belive
[02:24] <jacerx> I have to use layer 2 VPN before I'll remotely control something on my phone
[02:24] <ramon> Dr_Willis, that what i want...you suggest vnc?
[02:25] <Dr_Willis> ramon:  you are not going to be doing much over wired connection. Its possible. but then the phone is right next to you.. so whats the point.
[02:26] <ramon> Dr_Willis, share the internet connection perhaps
[02:26] <Dr_Willis> I used some 'wifi-keyboard' app ages ago on android. I pluged the usb cable into the laptop. and could type on the pc. and the keyboard would enter the texct on the phone.
[02:26] <Dr_Willis> ramon:  shareing the internet, is differnt then running apps.
[02:26] <Dr_Willis> You want to   have the pc share the internet to the phone - over usb? that should be possible. but i have no idewa what apps on android to use. ask in #android
[02:27] <Dr_Willis> i recall needing to use some 'adb' commands ages ago to do a similer task to that.
[02:28] <ramon> adb?
[02:28] <Dr_Willis> android developer tools
[02:28] <pentest> Host OS Xubuntu 13.04 is the LTSP server. 1 wifi card connected to Internet. I have got wlan0 (addr:192.168.1.2) and virbr0 (addr:192.168.122.1). Thin Client Guest OS installed in Virtual Box. Is it possible to have Thin Client boot-up with this LTSP server plz using virbr0? Note I have 1 physical NIC and 1 virtual NIC.
[02:29] <Dr_Willis> pentest:  you want to boot a real physical client, and have it use the virtual server?
[02:30] <James0r3> is there a list of Lenovo notebooks that have full compatibility running Ubuntu?
[02:30] <Dr_Willis> In vbox thers a way the virtual machine can appear on the local lan as a real machine (ie: an ip of 192.168.1.X in your case) then the clients on the lan can access it as if it was a real physical machine on the lan. Did that ages ago for some reason i cant rember. ;)
[02:30] <icedtea> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6178029/ how do I enable this job to be restarted by upstart? It won't restart
[02:31] <reisio> James0r3: http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/ probably goes a long way
[02:33] <ramon> thanks guys i go read around
[02:34] <StarFlower> James0r3, Yes its right here http://www.ubuntu.com/certification/make/Lenovo/
[02:35] <James0r3> StarFlower: thanks!
[02:35] <StarFlower> James0r3, Your welcome
[02:39] <ridhan> any body home
[02:40] <reisio> mmm, bodies
[02:40] <Guest93875> mmm, homes
[02:40] <ridhan> i have problem on my ubuntu version 12.04. wifi cannot enable
[02:41] <ridhan> reisio can help me
[02:41] <StarFlower> icedtea, you maybe able to run the following commands
[02:42] <ridhan> so what can i do
[02:42] <StarFlower> make sure the program  is running with initctl list
[02:42] <Biomechd> fuuuuu. i forgot all about xchat and the person who was helping me left. could someone take a look at this? http://pastebin.com/KZ4qRA0f
[02:43] <legend123> Hi there. Is gparted an untrusted software? Whenever i try to install it via terminal, i get message "The following packages cannot be authenticated!" . See this, http://i.imgur.com/bVogUwZ.png
[02:43] <icedtea> StarFlower: thats the problem. The program has stopped running but upstart won't restart it
[02:43] <legend123> Should i continue, even if it is unauthenticated? Is it safe?
[02:44] <StarFlower> and then run start resetmsmice -u
[02:44] <StarFlower> you can try that
[02:44] <ridhan> StarFlower can help
[02:44] <wilee-nilee> legend123, You add any additional repos?
[02:45] <StarFlower> even after a reset?
[02:45] <wilee-nilee> legend123, Run sudo apt-get update and pastebin it I bet you are missing a key
[02:46] <StarFlower> I want to make sure I understand icedtea
[02:46] <StarFlower> When you restart the computer it starts but then the process stops?
[02:49] <icedtea> StarFlower: I am not even sure it ever started to be honest. But whenever I do initctl start resetmsmice it just states: initctl: Unknown job: resetmsmice
[02:50] <StarFlower> try running start resetmsmice without initctl
[02:50] <icedtea> oh wait no I got to tun
[02:50] <icedtea> to run
[02:50] <icedtea> I had to reload the configuration
[02:51] <icedtea> sudo initctl reload-configuration
[02:51] <icedtea> weird
[02:51] <StarFlower> Good thats great
[02:51] <StarFlower> =)
[02:53] <keanne> hi list. i am having problems with ubuntu server  12.04 running in a proxmox environment. it always hang in "stopping mount network filesystem" upon reboot. any ideas?
[02:53] <legend123> wilee-nilee: Yes, i added some repos related to some deb games and medibuntu some time ago. Here's the pastebin result: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6178076/
[02:53] <bret> crap, locked out of my server.  anyone know the default fail2ban time for to many bad logins?
[02:54] <keanne> using recovery mode then resume, no problem
[02:54] <somsip_> bret: do you only have one server? Are you on dynamic IP?
[02:54] <icedtea> keanne: make sure any remote nfs filesystems are mounted with the soft option
[02:54] <StarFlower> Bret I believe its 3600 seconds
[02:54] <bret> somsip_, its a virtual machine I rent
[02:55] <bret> it has 5 static IPs
[02:55] <keanne> icedtea, i dont have any remote fs mounted
[02:55] <icedtea> keanne: wierd, not sure than
[02:55] <icedtea> weird rather
[02:55] <somsip_> bret: no - are you on dynamic IP. If I mess up on F2B I SSH to another server than ssh from that to F2B server and reset it, or reboot my ADSL modem to get a different IP
[02:55] <bret> StarFlower, thanks I guess ill figure out something else to do for the next hour.  Stupid overactive SFTP client
[02:56] <bret> someio_ thats a good idea
[02:57] <wilee-nilee> legend123, medibuntu is eol however run this command to load the missing key and a update and try the gparted install again. sudo apt-key adv --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com --recv-keys A8A515F046D7E7CF
[02:58] <wilee-nilee> legend123, It may have no key, buts lets see.
[02:58] <StarFlower> strangely enough keanne  i found some evidence that it may be connected to gdm
[02:58] <StarFlower> one user reported reinstalling gdm helped him
[02:59] <legend123> wilee-nilee: Thanks. That solved my problem
[02:59] <wilee-nilee> legend123, Cool, always load the key to extra repos is all, ams be careful in general is all. ;)
[02:59] <wilee-nilee> and*
[03:02] <Kalel> Greetings.
[03:02] <StarFlower> Hi Kalel
[03:03] <StarFlower> keanne, you can read through this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2058251
[03:03] <StarFlower> might help
[03:04] <keanne> StarFlower, thanks!
[03:04] <StarFlower> Your welcome
[03:04] <StarFlower> Did you fix it?
[03:05] <Kalel> I have a problem. Later my system had upgraded, my 3g device hasn`t recoginazed anymore. So, I did the downgraded for the 12.04 lts version, 9.4 or something. Now, nothing is showing and I have not internet on my ubuntu. I should I do now?
[03:05] <Kalel> No.
[03:06] <Kalel> When I try connect, I see an error? could not find nm-conection...
[03:06] <baby_born> is there anyone use intel hd graphic 3000 vga card ??
[03:06] <StarFlower> which 3g device do you have?
[03:07] <Dr_Willis> Kalel:  so what ubuntu release were you using befor? you did a 'normal upgrade to update to the latest packag3es' and things broke?   You then 'reinstalled 12.04 lts' ?
[03:07] <Renzatic__> Alright people, I've got a complicated question to a complicated problem, caused by my general ignorance and stupidity about some things Linux, and could use some help
[03:07] <setuid> I just installed 13.04 in a VM to give it a test, and whoa, what the heck is that mess of a default desktop? How do I get back a sensible UI, instead of that candyland thing that is installed by default?
[03:08] <StarFlower> Renzatic__, what is your problem?
[03:08] <Kalel> It is a file. Maybe I should download nm-applet again?
[03:08] <Kalel> nm-applet and Network-manager together?
[03:08] <Dr_Willis> setuid:  unity has been the default desktop for several releases now. Install a differnt desktop if you want. I use lubuntu or xubuntu on my vm's
[03:08] <StarFlower> setuid, you can install an extension from extensions.gnome.org
[03:08] <baby_born> yes... try find in update center
[03:08] <Renzatic__> to give you the digest version, I did...something to my sound system, and I need to know how to wipe ALSA and Pulseaudio and reset it to default
[03:09] <setuid> unity? Ok, I'll make sure I put a hold on that, so it's never installed here. What a nightmare.
[03:09] <Renzatic__> I could go through exactly what I did, but it'd take forever to describe. Might as well jump to the core issue
[03:09] <Dr_Willis> Renzatic__:  sudo apt-get purge  packagename  , then reinstall them (or reinstall the ubuntu-desktop package)
[03:09] <StarFlower> setuid, you dont have to do that
[03:09] <StarFlower> You can use gnome 3 if you want
[03:09] <StarFlower> or any of the other window managers
[03:09] <setuid> That's actually no better
[03:09] <StarFlower> unity is only the defualt
[03:09] <Dr_Willis> setuid:  nightmare? please dont ramnble.  Theres dozens of desktops you can use
[03:09] <setuid> I'll fire up sawfish/xfce4
[03:09] <Dr_Willis> !unity
[03:10] <setuid> !notunity
[03:10] <Dr_Willis> 3 years now - unity has been the default.
[03:10] <Renzatic__> this is something I can do in Synaptics, right? Find anything relating to alsa or pulse, uninstall it, reboot, then reinstall it?
[03:10] <StarFlower> Renzatic__, yes
[03:10] <StarFlower> setuid, you can use kde or xfce in ubuntu
[03:10] <Dr_Willis> Renzatic__:  may be better to use/learn the command line way. in case things break worse.
[03:10] <StarFlower> you dont have to install a different distro but you can if you want
[03:10] <Dr_Willis> Renzatic__:  and it may be a good idea to backup imporntant stuff ;) just in case
[03:11] <Renzatic__> I'm getting better with it, but synaptics helps when I don't know exact package names
[03:11] <Dr_Willis> !info xubuntu-desktop
[03:11] <Renzatic__> yeah, I'm learning that the hard way :P
[03:11] <setuid> Is there a meta-package for these desktop interfaces?
[03:11] <Renzatic__> I'm in that knowledgeable enough to be dangerous stage of my linux education
[03:11] <Dr_Willis> setuid:  see yes.. xubuntu-desktop was just mentioned. ;)
[03:12] <Dr_Willis> !info lubuntu-desktop
[03:12] <setuid> Doing so now
[03:12] <Renzatic__> alright, I'm gonna try this out. I'll be back soon if I've got more questions, thanks
[03:12] <setuid> What's lubuntu, as opposed to xubuntu or kubuntu?
[03:12] <Dr_Willis> !lubuntu
[03:12] <Dr_Willis> theres also the ubuntu-gnome stuff now if you want the gnome-shell
[03:13] <Dr_Willis> !info ubuntu-gnome-desktop
[03:13] <setuid> I'll give that a try. I still run Lucid here, with sawfish, love it? still the most powerful/speediest UI I've used
[03:13] <Dr_Willis> !info sawfish
[03:13] <StarFlower> setuid, yes there all in the repos
[03:13] <StarFlower> http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/ubuntu/install-xfce-xubuntu-on-ubuntu-linux/
[03:13] <setuid> Been running sawfish for ~9 years
[03:16] <Kalel> Dr_Willis: Sorry. I lost my connection later I had made my question to you.
[03:16] <Kalel> [03:10] <Kalel> No, Dr_Willis. I am using 13.04, and yes, the latest default upgrade, normal. I did not any modification in the packages. Anyway, later the upgrade, my modem was not detected.
[03:17] <Dr_Willis> Kalel:  so 13.04 worked. then a system upgrade broke  the 3g. did you try the older kernels befor you just decided to reinstll?
[03:19] <Kalel> Yes. When I boot with 3.19, my hardware comes in Low Graphic Mode adn the issue persist.
[03:19] <Kalel> Dr_Willis: Is this plausible? http://askubuntu.com/questions/159812/network-manager-indicator-missing
[03:19] <Dr_Willis> video issue? i thouight you had a 3g modem issue?
[03:20] <Kalel> Dr_Willis: I am chating from the Live CD, 12.04 lts. Can I make something from here? Rather..
[03:20] <Dr_Willis> Kalel:  make somthing?   You mean try to 'fix' somthing?   SO is this a 3g modem issue? or a video issue? or the system just sort of blew up issue?
[03:21] <Kalel> Dr_Willis: Is that so. Just attemping the another one. Isnt the actual I am interesting to fix..
[03:21] <wylde> o.O
[03:21] <Dr_Willis> wylde:  0_o is correct.
[03:22] <Kalel> Dr_Willis: 3g. Could I extract a file from the Live CD and change for the current broked system?
[03:23] <Kalel> Dr_Willis: Did you had a look in the link? If I include nm-applet in Startup my problem can be sold?
[03:24] <Dr_Willis> Kalel:  you could test that by just trying it..
[03:25] <Kalel> Ihave to restart my computer so..
[03:25] <Kalel> Anyway. i`ll still searchig `till I find something. Thank you.
[03:25] <Ben64> i have 12.04 and i always get crash notifications, how can i disable them forever and ever and ever? they're annoying
[03:26] <n0t50h4ppy> Hey guys... Is Ubuntu NSA-proof?
[03:26] <StarFlower> notifications as in a program crash or the system crashes?
[03:26] <Ben64> program crashes
[03:26] <StarFlower> n0t50h4ppy, No i would think not
[03:26] <Ben64> but stuff really isn't crashing, and i wouldn't want to report it anyway, so i could disable the whole thing and be happy
[03:26] <shotoflove> I'm having issues implementing ubuntu with Active Directory anyone have some experience with this?
[03:26] <Dr_Willis> Ben64:  askubuntu.com has sevarl ways you can diable the apport tool to disable those reports
[03:27] <Ben64> yeah i tried some of those and no luck so far
[03:27] <n0t50h4ppy> Why?
[03:27] <Dr_Willis> apt-get remove it. ;)
[03:27] <Ben64> heh
[03:27] <StarFlower> http://askubuntu.com/questions/93457/how-do-i-enable-or-disable-apport
[03:27] <Ben64> The following packages will be REMOVED: \n  apport apport-gtk   ..... well i could do that
[03:27] <Dr_Willis> the reports are mostly ignored for normal releases from what i recall. More for testing the beta stuff.
[03:27] <Ben64> doesn't mess with ubuntu-desktop or anything i care about
[03:27] <StarFlower> Ben64, i wouldnt delete it
[03:27] <StarFlower> just disable it
[03:28] <Dr_Willis> I recall the apport wiki page/guides mention how its not used much. ;)(
[03:28] <n0t50h4ppy> How do i make it NSA-proof?
[03:28] <StarFlower> may help you in the future to debug a problem
[03:28] <Dr_Willis> n0t50h4ppy:  leave the pc turned off?
[03:28] <n0t50h4ppy> But.. But.. How do i fap then?
[03:28] <shotoflove> I tried using https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ADWin2k8KerberosLDAP but, after I get a kerberos  ticket I'm unable to getent passwd
[03:30] <Kalel> What means with FAP THEN ?
[03:30] <shotoflove> syslog complains about failing to bind to the LDAP server because of invalid credentials.  Anyone how exactly I setup my Windows AD account incorrectly for LDAP to communicate with it?
[03:30] <Dr_Willis> Kalel:  ignore the trolls.
[03:30] <mn3na3a> unity crashes when i use alt+tab any idea why?
[03:32] <Kalel> Good night fellas..
[03:32] <StarFlower> which version of ubunut mn3na3a
[03:32] <mn3na3a> 12.04.3
[03:32] <dumont> how many older kernels can the OS keep in the grub file?
[03:32] <StarFlower> do you have multiple monitors
[03:33] <dumont> is there a limit, such that if I have 4 kernels including the new one, then the oldest gets deleted?
[03:33] <Dr_Willis> dumont:  they dont get auto removed as far as i know. Ive seen askubuntu.com have some scripts,  that can check and auto remove older ones.
[03:34] <dumont> ok, so they don't get auto removed
[03:34] <dumont> good
[03:34] <dumont> thanks
[03:34] <Ponch0> How do I check the linux kernel version on my super computer?
[03:34] <Dr_Willis> !version
[03:34] <StarFlower> uname -r
[03:35] <StarFlower> sorry thats for the kernel version
[03:35] <StarFlower> lol
[03:36] <Ponch0> Thank u starflower that's exactly what I wanted to know
[03:36] <StarFlower> Ponch0, your welcome
[03:37] <Ponch0> I need like a wallpaper of commands or something, i've used this 20 times and i'm still confused
[03:38] <StarFlower> here you go
[03:38] <StarFlower> http://security.crudtastic.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/linux-command-wallpaper.png
[03:39] <Ponch0> lol, starflower: you're a star today
[03:39] <StarFlower> Ponch0, =)
[03:39] <Ponch0> omg that's perfect
[03:40] <shotoflove> Can anyone help me geting /etc/nslcd.conf to work with windows ad?
[03:43] <sam113101> guys, serious question, is there supposed to be a menu on transmission?
[03:43] <StarFlower> its up in the top i think
[03:43] <sam113101> but other than that?
[03:43] <StarFlower> of the screen not the program
[03:44] <StarFlower> I dont think so, theres a preferences but other than that
[03:44] <sam113101> I can only see the title
[03:45] <StarFlower> you should have open start pause stop | properties
[03:45] <StarFlower> under the title
[03:45] <shotoflove> Anyone know a good paid support site for ubuntu system admins?
[03:45] <StarFlower> to be an admin for, or looking for support from
[03:46] <paco123> hi, what is the right program to map Control+c+c to a different key combination, e.g. Altgr+L ? I tried xvkbd, but as it can send ctrl+c, the latter c is sent separately, (as if ctrl was released before), and I need the two "c" to be sent when the ctrl is pressed
[03:46] <shotoflove> looking for support from
[03:46] <Dr_Willis> wouldent that be ctrl-c ctrl-c   then?
[03:46] <wylde> shotoflove: the may have a better idea on that topic in #ubuntu-server
[03:46] <StarFlower> http://www.ubuntu.com/management/ubuntu-advantage
[03:46] <paco123> no no, ctrl+c+c Dr_Willis
[03:46] <wylde> they*
[03:47] <Dr_Willis> paco123:  that just dosent make sence to me. either the 2nd c has ctrl , or it dosent.
[03:47] <StarFlower> ranges from 105-165 USD per year
[03:47] <paco123> ctrl (pressed down) + c + c (ctrl is released) Dr_Willis
[03:47] <StarFlower> for desktop and server is different
[03:47] <StarFlower> 320-1200
[03:48] <Dr_Willis> paco123:  perhaps tell the channel what/why you are trying to do this. because somthing is not making sence here.
[03:50] <paco123> it's a complicated scenario Dr_Willis, it has to do with a shortcut to call goldendict program (ctrl+c+c), I've been able to accomplish it using xdotool, ($xdotool ctrl+c+c) but for some reason sometimes it works, and sometimes it is pressed repeatedly
[03:52] <StarFlower> http://askubuntu.com/questions/24916/how-do-i-remap-certain-keys may help
[03:54] <Ari-Yang> to replace adobe flash with gnash I should first uninstall flash and then install gnash, yes? is it okay to disable adobe flash in firefox's plugins settings or should I completely uninstall?
[03:54] <paco123> yes StarFlower, I'm aware of this post, it helped me, but it doesn't say anything about ctrl (pressed down) c + c (ctrl released). It doesn't seem to be possible with xvkbd, but possibly it is because of my ignorance, that's why I'm asking here
[03:57] <StarFlower> well besides changing programs Im not sure
[03:58] <paco123> also tried autokey-gtk... but although it works, it doesn't work for such a combination either
[03:58] <paco123> no xdotool guru here?
[03:59] <StarFlower> let me do some research and brb
[04:00] <alone> °·d(¬_¬)b·°
[04:00] <SoninK> hello
[04:00] <paco123> I've been hours with this... thanks StarFlower
[04:01] <StarFlower> your welcome give me just a minute and I'll see if i can help you
[04:02] <Guest17212> hello anybody have a finger scanner i have a hp envy dv7 i want to get it running on ubuntu 13.04
[04:03] <gulag2013> Ari-Yang,  I had poor results with Gnash. What is your intention?
[04:03] <enkur> does anyone know why using the cat command on a regular file does not update the access time stamp?
[04:03] <Ari-Yang> I just wanted to test it out is all, if I don't like it, I'll go back to using flash
[04:04] <Paulus68_1> Guest17212: Don't know if this is helpfull (don't have a finger scanner) http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2013/03/how-to-get-your-fingerprint-reader-working-in-ubuntu
[04:04] <Ari-Yang> !gnash
[04:05] <gulag2013> Ari-Yang, okay I think I uninstalled flash first/ then installed gnash.
[04:05] <Ari-Yang> okay, I'll do that
[04:06] <gulag2013> One other option is to use Minitube for Youtube. I don't believe flash is used. I"m experimenting with that.
[04:06] <lotuspsychje> Paulus68_1: hi mate
[04:08] <StarFlower> paco123, well I played with it and got the same results on my computer sometimes it does it right sometimes it repeats
[04:08] <StarFlower> unfortunately not sure how to fix that
[04:08] <Ari-Yang> gulag2013, I removed adobe flash plugin and installed gnash but youtube is telling me to install adobe...
[04:08] <StarFlower> but at least its not you
[04:09] <gulag2013> ignore that. It will say that no matter what your replacement is.
[04:09] <paco123> so I guess I'll keep reading tfm and trying StarFlower
[04:09] <StarFlower> Ari-Yang, enable html5 http://www.youtube.com/html5
[04:09] <Guest17212> guys how do i make fonts bigger on this xchat?
[04:10] <Ari-Yang> gulag2013, these are the packages that were installed after running apt-get install browser-plugin-gnash http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=vMhg34Q0
[04:10] <lotuspsychje> Guest17212: preferences
[04:10] <Ari-Yang> StarFlower, by enabling html5 yt videos will play?
[04:10] <StarFlower> they should
[04:10] <Ari-Yang> Guest17212, you should ask that in #xchat channel
[04:10] <xmetal> SETTINGS ~~> preferences~~~>  appearrances  then "main font"
[04:10] <paco123> Gnash works fine with youtube
[04:10] <Ari-Yang> StarFlower, why must this be done? it's required for youtube?
[04:11] <StarFlower> No its not required there are other ways to get it working and for some people it works by default, but for others it might be a good thing to try
[04:11] <StarFlower> it just avoids using flash and instead uses html5
[04:11] <Ari-Yang> so using html5 means it will be using gnash?
[04:12] <StarFlower> no it uses something else
[04:12] <Ari-Yang> but I wanted to try using gnash...
[04:12] <StarFlower> Ok
[04:13] <gulag2013> Ari-Yang, There are html5 plugins for Firefox and Chrome. It's been a long time sense I messed with Gnash. I think I had to launch the Gnash and tweak it.
[04:13] <paco123> Ari-Yang, install gnash and remove flashplugin
[04:13] <Ari-Yang> paco123, I did... I uninstalled flash plugin then installed gnash
[04:13] <Ari-Yang> should I install this too? mozilla-plugin-gnash - dummy package for renaming to browser-plugin-gnash ?
[04:14] <paco123> yes, go on
[04:14] <Ari-Yang> paco123, these are installed http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=vMhg34Q0
[04:14] <gulag2013> Good points the plugins need to be disabled for Adobe don't they?
[04:14] <Ari-Yang> okay, installing mozilla-plugin-gnash...
[04:14] <paco123> yes, that's the missing one, then restart mozilla firefox and go to youtube.com Ari-Yang
[04:15] <wilee-nilee> Guest17212, right click settings-preferences-appearance
[04:16] <Ari-Yang> paco123, just did, and it still isn't working :s and there is no gnash plugin in firefox's plugins...
[04:16] <keanne> my ubuntu startup in proxmox problem still persist. here is a screenshot, if anyone have other ideas its highly appreciated http://postimg.org/image/t4iesbzyd/
[04:17] <Ari-Yang> wait
[04:17] <paco123> did you restart firefox Ari-Yang ?
[04:17] <Ari-Yang> http://gyazo.com/4e09c089efa11f86d4373575240e3e64 paco123 is that shockwave suppose to be gnash?
[04:17] <Ari-Yang> and yes I did restart firefox...
[04:17] <Ari-Yang> derp
[04:17] <Ari-Yang> it is
[04:17] <paco123> yes, that's the one
[04:17] <Ari-Yang> haha I derped
[04:18] <StarFlower> keanne, it might be better if you retell whats wrong so we can start helping again
[04:18] <lotuspsychje> how is the default name of the package that created usb startup disks on ubuntu?
[04:19] <Ari-Yang> thanks guys~
[04:19] <keanne> StarFlower, ubuntu running on proxmox (kvm) hangs after the fsck boot sequence
[04:21] <keanne> StarFlower, see the screenshot that ive posted. after the fsck sequence it just hangs.
[04:22] <rodicio> I angry, and every thing is allright, but there is a rare thing. Why it's an important security update three drivers of HP Printing? Sorry for my english
[04:23] <wilee-nilee> rodicio, Your angry over an update that caused no harm?
[04:24] <gulag2013> rodicio, keep it in perspective there are some of that can't get drivers for are printers, and besides at least it's clear what updates are what. Not like that other o/s
[04:24] <keanne> rodicio, and those are security updates, whatever those are for those updates are meant to protect you
[04:25] <gulag2013> You guys remember all the garbage HP installs on a Windows box?
[04:25] <wilee-nilee> !ot | gulag2013
[04:26] <rodicio> Are they open source?
[04:26] <kostkon> havent ised windows since 2005, so to answer the question, no :-P
[04:26] <wilee-nilee> no anti MS here please
[04:27] <rodicio> please, are they open source?
[04:27] <wilee-nilee> rodicio, HOw would we know this support not development.
[04:27] <Dr_Willis> rodicio:  i imagine some security issue as found and was corrected..
[04:28] <kostkon> rodicio: not sure if the drivers are open sojrce, the utilities might be though
[04:28] <Dr_Willis> if the drivers came from cups.org - i belive they would be open sourced
[04:28] <kostkon> cups
[04:28] <Dr_Willis> !cups
[04:29] <kostkon> cups.org or openprinting.org?
[04:29] <Dr_Willis> look at the both i guess.
[04:29] <kostkon> or whatever the openprinting url is
[04:30] <kostkon> linuxprinting? hmm
[04:31] <Guest17212> rodicio there is opensource product by microsoft
[04:31] <lotuspsychje> whats the package called to make startup disk on ubuntu?
[04:31] <Dr_Willis> !find usb-startup-creator
[04:32] <Dr_Willis> hmm what was the name of that binary. i rarely use it
[04:32]  * xmetal currently searching for what the "real difference is" between Mint + unity DE -vs- Ubuntu 
[04:32] <xmetal> !ubootbin
[04:32] <xmetal> no thats not it
[04:32] <Dr_Willis> xmetal:  leetness ;)
[04:32] <xmetal> dang it ...
[04:32] <lotuspsychje> Dr_Willis: i find it handy, and was thinking maybe other Os can download it aswell?
[04:32] <xmetal> forgot how to spell it
[04:32] <lotuspsychje> !find creator
[04:33] <Dr_Willis> I tend to never use it lotuspsychje  - i use the dozens of other tools at the pendrivelinux sute
[04:33] <lotuspsychje> Dr_Willis: first one?
[04:33] <xmetal> same here
[04:33] <lotuspsychje> or gtk?
[04:33] <kostkon> lotuspsychje: in windows yoi use unebooting
[04:33] <xmetal> i use pendrive linux's program
[04:33] <xmetal> unetboot ? ... that SEEMS closer
[04:33] <xmetal> lol
[04:33] <lotuspsychje> !info usb-creator-gtk
[04:33] <Dr_Willis> The ubunhtu tool - works only for ubuntu and official variants  some few other  variants
[04:33] <lotuspsychje> thats the one?
[04:33] <wilee-nilee> unetbooty
[04:33] <Dr_Willis> tools at pendrivelinux support more disrtos
[04:34] <Dr_Willis> and can even make multi-boot-iso-flash drives, auto check md5's auto-download the iso's and other fancy features.
[04:34] <lotuspsychje> Dr_Willis: yes but lets say another distro, would love to move to ubuntu he could down usb-creator right?
[04:34] <Dr_Willis> lotuspsychje:  that tool may or may not work on other disrtos.,
[04:35] <xmetal> i have a pendrive drive with a few tools (gparted, universal boot CD, etc on it)
[04:35] <Dr_Willis> most likely theres tools at pendrivelinux that would work
[04:35] <xmetal> er UBCD i mean
[04:35] <Dr_Willis> lotuspsychje:  you can just use 'dd' to image a ubuntu ISO straight to flash if you want to do it the simplelst way
[04:35] <xmetal> !find ubootin
[04:35] <wilee-nilee> !unetbootin
[04:36] <xmetal> dang it i am going to have to google it now :P
[04:36] <lotuspsychje> lol
[04:36] <xmetal> ah ha
[04:36] <Dr_Willis> i rarely use Unetbootin these days.  Had to many issues with it in the past. and well - its feature set  - is not that full featured these days. ;)
[04:36] <lotuspsychje> Dr_Willis: well i like working with that usb creator, and i dont want any other distro then ubuntu so
[04:37] <xmetal> i use pendrive cause it works and ... a bit "force of habit"
[04:37] <Xerofyte> !help
[04:37] <Dr_Willis> lotuspsychje:  you asked if the ubuntu usb creator woud 'run' on other disrtos. it may or may not.  It also is not designed to make usb flash drives from  other disrtos iso images.
[04:37] <rodicio> well, after this update, one of this drivers prevents me to update the sistem.  It would be broken, but giveme problems of dependencies and others, and I couldn't update. I have already arranged but is stupid to have to install anything that's sure i dont need
[04:38] <Xerofyte> !patience
[04:38] <Dr_Willis> rodicio:  pastebin the exact commands, and error messages for the channel to see.
[04:38] <lotuspsychje> Dr_Willis: but the package is designed for gnome right? should it not run properly on all gnome desktops?
[04:38] <lotuspsychje> Xerofyte: plz just ask your trouble with ubuntu
[04:38] <Dr_Willis> lotuspsychje:  designed for gnome? err no.. its designed for ubuntu. so there may or may not be the various support tools on other disrtos even if they use gnome
[04:39] <lotuspsychje> Dr_Willis: ok tnx!
[04:39] <rodicio> Ok Dr_Willis  I have arranged that, but I have a bad feeling about that.
[04:40] <Xerofyte> lotuspsychje: I will If I have any. Just wanted to check what ubottu has to offer ;)
[04:40] <rodicio> thank's every one
[04:40] <Dr_Willis> Xerofyte:  you can /msg ubottu  help   and chat to it in private
[04:40] <lotuspsychje> Xerofyte: lol
[04:40] <Dr_Willis> !brain
[04:40] <Xerofyte> Thanks Dr_Willis :)
[04:43]  * xmetal saves the cgi page for future reference
[04:43] <xmetal> :)
[04:44]  * lotuspsychje invites 1600 users to #ubuntu-offtopic to have a wild chitchat
[04:44]  * Dr_Willis is one of the 12 not invited.
[04:44] <lotuspsychje> lol
[04:45] <ciphoenix> Lol
[04:46]  * xmetal makes #ubuntu-offtopic-offtopic for when people in #ubuntu-offtopic "ot" me 
[04:46] <xmetal> !ot xmetal
[04:46] <xmetal> :P
[04:46] <ejv> i would totally join that, just saying
[04:46] <Dr_Willis> just rember the quiet time  in here right now when the next release comes out..
[04:46] <Flannel> xmetal: you're not even in #ubuntu-offtopic, nor have you been in the past 24 hours.
[04:47] <ciphoenix> Dr_Willis true. 16 days to go :)
[04:48] <north> I've installed git-repo tool succesfully on Ubuntu 12.04 LTS, but when I try to run "repo init -u https://android.googlesource.com/platform/manifest", I get 407 proxy error, I've tried adding https variable to bash script, but nothing seems to be working. I'm unable to get the source
[04:48] <north> can anyone suggest me a workaround for this ?
[04:48] <toothe> I'm debating if I should use Ubuntu 12.04 or 13. In short, what's the difference?
[04:48] <north> toothe: go with what you want
[04:48] <ejv> if you have to ask, there's really no difference.
[04:48] <north> ultimately
[04:48] <toothe> difference?
[04:48] <north> its Linux
[04:48] <north> not versions
[04:49] <north> :p
[04:49] <xmetal> next time i upgrade i'd like to go with a LTS release
[04:49] <ejv> !enter | north
[04:49] <Paulus68_1> Dr_Willis: Quiet time lol the servers are going mad at that moment lol
[04:49] <north> ubottu: sure. I'll keep in mind :)
[04:52] <xmetal> ubottu, is being modest :)
[04:52] <Gabboz> Is asking an SSH question(I am using Ubuntu) an appropriate question for this channel?
[04:53] <Xerofyte> Okay Brothers Here's my question. I want to Uninstall Chromium-browser. How do I do the process in terminal?
[04:53] <blocky2> what does it mean if the ubuntu installer sees my ntfs partition as 'unknown' but the livecd is able to mount it and view files
[04:54] <Gabboz> blocky2, the installer isn't as smart(verbose) as the OS is...basically.
[04:54] <wylde> !apt | Xerofyte: sudo apt-get remove chromium-browser
[04:54] <blocky2> Gabboz can i resize it?
[04:54] <north> Xerofyte: do sudo apt-get remove chromium-browser
[04:55] <lotuspsychje> blocky2: doesnt the installer asks to install next to windows?
[04:55] <blocky2> lotuspsychje this is 13.10 beta 2 and no it doesn't
[04:55] <lotuspsychje> !13.10 | blocky2
[04:55] <blocky2> ah okay
[04:55] <Paulus68_1> lotuspsychje: just beat me to it lol
[04:56] <Xerofyte> Ok Got it. Whats the Difference Between "remove" and "purge"
[04:56] <lotuspsychje> !cookie | Paulus68_1
[04:56]  * Gabboz takes paulus68's cookie.
[04:56]  * Paulus68_1 give my cookie back
[04:56] <north> purge completely reoves it from roots
[04:57] <north> not advisable @ Xerofyte
[04:57] <blocky2> does partition support change in saucy?
[04:57] <lotuspsychje> blocky2: i just triggered you right channel mate
[04:58] <blocky2> lotuspsychje thanks i asked there
[04:58] <blocky2> just wondering if anyone here knew
[04:58]  * Xerofyte wants to completely remove it from root. So "purge" come in handy I guess.
[04:58] <lotuspsychje> !purge | Xerofyte
[04:59] <Xerofyte> lol @ Purge Xerofyte :P
[05:02] <f3nd3> What is Ubuntu all about?
[05:02] <lotuspsychje> !ubuntu | f3nd3
[05:03] <lotuspsychje> f3nd3: its highly recomended to install mate
[05:03] <f3nd3> Nice
[05:03] <lotuspsychje> f3nd3: stable, fast and secure
[05:05] <Guest17212> anybody have a envy dv7 im trying to get the finger scanner to work
[05:07] <Ciphoenix> Guest17212  I do. there's a driver for it
[05:08] <Gabboz> i gave up on my finger scanner about 3 years ago.  has this stuff improved since?
[05:13] <Ciphoenix> Gabboz  yes there is. have been unconcerned though so haven't put any effort into it
[05:25] <wilee-nilee> lotuspsychje, highly recommended by who?
[05:25] <Paulus68_1> wilee-nilee: by Lotus :)
[05:26] <wilee-nilee> Paulus68_1, Lotus who I don;t think it is even in the repos.
[05:26] <wilee-nilee> !mate
[05:26] <wilee-nilee> !info mate
[05:26] <wilee-nilee> !find mate
[05:26] <Paulus68_1> wilee-nilee: mate is not a package
[05:27] <wilee-nilee> not even in the repos, cinnamon is in raring however
[05:27] <Ben64> mate isn't in the repositories because its silly. gnome 2 is dead, mate cannot revive it
[05:27] <wilee-nilee> exactly
[05:27] <Paulus68_1> wilee-nilee: it's an expression since he was talking about installing Ubuntu
[05:29] <wilee-nilee> Paulus68_1, Its a desktop "to install mate" looks like a desktop recommendation, if not cool just wondering.
[05:30] <WhitePelican> how do I run aisleriot from the command line?
[05:33] <WhitePelican> ok, I see it's called sol. now, how do I run one of the specific games?
[05:33] <unicorn-lightnin> hi guys, can anyone help me out with installing AMD graphics drivers for my laptop. Every time I install the proprietary drivers through System Settings, the window manager completely crashes the next time I boot my computer. This happens both with Cinnamon in Mint and Unity in Ubuntu. My Laptop is a Lenovo Ideapad Y470
[05:33] <benyaminl> and why my laptop ASUS A43S always overheat
[05:34] <wilee-nilee> unicorn-lightnin, where so these drivers come from?
[05:34] <wilee-nilee> do*
[05:35] <deepak> Hello.  I have run into an issue. I am unable to install any application on my ubuntu
[05:35] <deepak> I get unmet dependancy errors
[05:35] <unicorn-lightnin> Wilee-nilee, System Settings
[05:35] <unicorn-lightnin> I'm installing the ones that Ubuntu recommends
[05:37] <unicorn-lightnin> system Settings -> softwre sources -> additional drivers
[05:37] <wilee-nilee> unicorn-lightnin, Thats why I asked from where, sometimes there are proprietary drivers there, not sure myself.
[05:38] <unicorn-lightnin> i c :(
[05:38] <Dr_Willis> benyaminl:  you may need the propiraity drivers from the addational-drivers tool.  The forums or askubuntu.com may also suggest other possible fixs
[05:39] <lotuspsychje> wilee-nilee: sorry for the spelling, i meant ubuntu is higly recommended (i used mate as 'friend) :p
[05:40] <wilee-nilee> unicorn-lightnin, Have you checked askubuntu?
[05:40] <wilee-nilee> lotuspsychje, I figured that out, I forgot you may be english, or something like that. ;)
[05:41] <unicorn-lightnin> no.. i hven't
[05:42] <wilee-nilee> unicorn-lightnin, I would look there with your computer model to start with.
[05:42] <lotuspsychje> deepak: it might be usefull to know your ubuntu version, and pastebin your dependacy error
[05:43] <SupaSol> hello
[05:44] <lotuspsychje> SupaSol: welcome
[05:45] <unicorn-lightnin> okay, i'll give it a shot
[05:47] <Paulus68_1> geen probleem als ik me niet vergis had je het toch niet over een programma tegen F3ND3
[05:49] <MonkeyDust> Paulus68_1  verkeerd scherm :)
[05:49] <bazhang> !nl | Paulus68_1
[05:54] <Paulus68_1> MonkeyDust: true wring screen lol
[05:55] <Paulus68_1> bazhang: I know sorry wrong screen lol
[05:59] <Omen_20> is there a reason why chrome crashes Ubuntu so hard and often, yet never touches Windows 7?
[05:59] <lotuspsychje> Omen_20: can you run chrome from terminal and see errors?
  :This is the error:    http://pastebin.com/4s9rJEj2
[06:00] <lotuspsychje> deepak: ubuntu version please?
[06:00] <Omen_20> Doubt it the whole system locks. I still have my mouse, but I can't do anything with it or the keyboard.
[06:00] <tozen> Omen_20: have you been installed smth before crashes?
 : It is Ubuntu 12.04.3 LTS
[06:02] <deepak> I upgraded it from 11.10 to 12.04
[06:02] <Omen_20> Nothing but normal updates. It's been an issue for me on both 13.04 and 12.10. Never had the issue up until last October. Been using Ubuntu since Intrepid.
[06:04] <brophat> can I install windows 8 on a machine that already has ubuntu on it?
[06:04] <lotuspsychje> brophat: why need win8, when using ubuntu
[06:05] <brophat> excel, learn .net blah blah etc
[06:05] <Paulus68_1> brophat: openoffice works just a good
[06:06] <Paulus68_1> brophat: and you can use virtual box to install a windows os and use ubuntu as principal OS
[06:06] <brophat> well to get a job in corpland one would need to know excel, microsoft office, etc
[06:07] <lotuspsychje> brophat: you can install ms office on playonlinux aswell
[06:07] <brophat> I want to install a ton of microsoft stuff to learn .net and stuff like that
[06:07] <Omen_20> I've noticed Google's Map Preview will pretty much lock Ubuntu within 5 minutes flat. Going to try out the old version. Still, Ubuntu shouldn't let a browser run wild like this.
[06:08] <brophat> so what I can't install windows 8 along side ubuntu if ubuntu is installed first?
[06:09] <lotuspsychje> !dualboot | brophat
[06:10] <brophat> i heard windows install disk does not let you install alongside another OS
[06:11] <lotuspsychje> brophat: maybe the ##windows guys might help you out to make a new partition for ubuntu
 : Any guidance please?
[06:13] <lotuspsychje> deepak: not sure about your problem sorry, best you re-ask your problem once in a while in chat, togheter with your pastebin
[06:13] <lotuspsychje> deepak: im sure someone might know
[06:13] <deepak> Yes sure. Thanks <lotuspsychje>
[06:15] <Paulus68_1> brophat: in the past you where advised to install windows first and ubuntu after when wanting to work in dual boot don't know if this is still the case with windows 7 and 8
[06:16] <Paulus68_1> brophat: this might be helpfull http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/tired-of-windows-8-how-to-dual-boot-windows-ubuntu/
[06:17] <brophat> ok thanks
[06:19] <true-techie> can putty reuse connections?
[06:19] <Dr_Willis_> true-techie:  you mean resume after you disconnect and get back to the same shell?
[06:20] <HypnotiX> Morning
[06:20] <Dr_Willis_> moo
[06:21] <HypnotiX> Need a little help please, i just reinstalled ubuntu and i cant get my display driver to work properly
[06:21] <HypnotiX> i am using an nvidia card, i installed bumblebee, rebooted and the max resolution i can select is still 1024
[06:21] <true-techie> Dr_Willis_: or use a connection that is already established. when i was saving files with gvim's netrw, i saw it make a new connection each time
[06:23] <HypnotiX> lshw -c video shows only a vga driver :*
[06:23] <Dr_Willis_> true-techie:   you mean using the X forwarding feature of ssh?  I tend to just ssh in, and usd vim, not gvim'
[06:25] <{-r-}> Hi everyone
[06:28] <kent__> is it possible to run an X program on a computer running ubuntu 13.04, and having it show on another computer? And if so, is it possible to detach it like you can do with programs in a terminal with the command screen?  That is, to detach it, and show it later and keeping it running on the other computer..?
[06:29] <HypnotiX> if i try to run sudo apt-get install nvidia-current it says i already have the newest installed
[06:29] <HypnotiX> but the proprietary drivers list is empty
[06:30] <HypnotiX> and if i run sudo modprobe nvidia_current FATAL: Module nvidia_current not found. i get this
[06:37] <Dr_Willis> kent__:  vnc, or ssh and x forwarding depending on the details
[06:38] <Dr_Willis> kent__:  you start a vncserver session on pc1. connect to it with pc2 you 'see' the vnc desktop in the vnc client on pc2. you do whatever you want, if you close the client. the vncserver stays running. and you can reconnect later - the app is NOT seen at all on pc1. OR you could just share pc1's desktop
[06:38] <kent__> Dr_Willis, vnc server sounds perfect. thanks!  :=
[06:38] <kent__> :)
[06:39] <Dr_Willis> kent__:  thers also freenx, and other methods that use vnc in one way or another.
[06:39] <kent__> thanks
[06:39] <Dr_Willis> ssh and x forwarding is a simple way to run an app on PC1 and 'see' it on pc2 - but if the connection dies. the app closes
[06:41] <kent__> which one is most light on resource? I meen, differs it alot?
[06:41] <kent__> Dr_Willis_, ^^
[06:42] <Guest33362> what exactly is this
[06:45] <Dr_Willis_> kent__:  depends onwhat you run in it. vnc is running a whole desktop or window manager + apps. ssh would be just running the app.
[06:47] <kent__> Dr_Willis_, the server that will run the application, is somewhat old, and only have 4gb memory.   well.. nevermind, I will try them both..
[06:48] <Dr_Willis_> with vnc you will most likley want to run a simple window manager + the apps. like jwm. keep it as light as possible
[06:51] <elango> hi all i have switch on my ubuntu pc on today morning,it booted normaly but when the login screen prompted the keyboard and mouse are freezed,not working,but at the bootmode selection screen there is no problem with that, can you tell me what is that issues
[06:56] <Ponch0> Hello fellow citizens, I'm wondering how I could get something that looks just like this citizen has set up on desktop for cpu info
[06:56] <Ponch0> http://vindsl.com/images/vindsl-desktop-28-apr-2013-1.png
[06:57] <Ponch0> I'm glad everyone today is doing their work as responsible citizens.
[06:58] <Calinou> Ponch0: you do that with conky
[06:58] <Calinou> maybe the author of that has a .conkyrc file available somewhere, but there are no guarantees
[06:58] <Calinou> in this case you'll have to redo it the best you can
[06:58] <Audica> Hi, I'm wondering if I'm in the right place. I'm having trouble mounting a DVD that I can physically see has Data on it, but the computer insists is blank
[06:58] <Calinou> and the cpu info comes from gnome-system-monitor
[06:59] <Calinou> Audica: probably, if you're using (K/X/L)/Ubuntu
[06:59] <Audica> I'm trying to recover some pictures off of it, it's an old backup.
[06:59] <Ponch0> Calinou: and gnome system monitor is layed out like that on the desktop?
[06:59] <Audica> Calinou, I am.
[07:00] <Cronox> ?
[07:01] <Ponch0> Hm, what can I google to get this sort of set up? I'm not even sure..
[07:01] <Audica> I've tried OSX, Windows 7, and Amiga4 to check this, they all claim the disc is blank, it's a series of backups, others in the series don't even register as anything being in the machine, though I can hear it whirring. I threw in a Ted DVD just as a control test, and it works fine.
[07:01] <Ponch0> to look on how to set it up that is
[07:03] <Audica> Every google search I've tried is really just full of people new to computing asking what to do with a blank CD and iTunes...
[07:04] <kent__> Audica, if its not working on different operatingsystems, and perhaps even different dvd-readers,  then its probably correct to assume the disc is blank/or just not readable
[07:04] <Ponch0> just look at the back of it, u can physically see if something is written to the cd/dvd
[07:04] <TNTS> Hi can anyone tell me what the .gvfs folder is for? I can't seem to back it up
[07:04] <wh-hw> hello,
[07:05] <wh-hw> how to change ubuntu mouse to black color?
[07:05] <Audica> hellow wh-hw
[07:05] <wh-hw> and  i installed gnome 3
[07:05] <wh-hw> i want make ubuntu looks like fedora
[07:06] <wh-hw> Audica, any idea?
[07:06] <Ponch0> wh-hw: go to tweak-tool---- go to themes---- hit the slider that says "enable dark theme for applications"
[07:06] <lng> Hi! I have added ppa:ondrej/php5 PPA to get PHP5.5, then I have run apt-get update && apt-get upgrade, but still have PHP5.3. When I run upgrade, I got message like this: The following packages have been kept back: libjson0 libjson0:i386 php-pear php5-cli php5-common php5-curl php5-dev php5-fpm php5-intl php5-mcrypt php5-mysql. What does kept back mean and how do I get PHP5.5?
[07:07] <somsip> !ppa | lng
[07:08] <Audica> Wh-hw, if you're looking for an overall fedora theme, you're probably better off going to system, preferences, appearances, and it should pull up the list of installed themes initially, where you can click "get more themes online"
[07:08] <Dr_Willis> i always seem to find problems with 'dark' themes. theres always somthing on some app. (normally firefox) that comes out impossible to read.
[07:08] <lng> somsip: your response is not helpful
[07:08] <Audica> I'd search that repository for more themes, and i'm sure there's some sort of fedora mimicking theme.
[07:08] <Dr_Willis> The webupd8 and omgubuntu sites - tend to have posts about the  better themes out there.
[07:09] <somsip> lng: It's simply that PPAs are not supported here. You need to get support from the PPA maintainer
[07:09] <Dr_Willis> lng:  try an sudo apt-get dist-upgrade ?
[07:09] <Audica> Dr_Willis, Firefox struggles with themes in other OS's too, it happens when websites have CSS templates dictating their webpage theme.
[07:09] <lng> Dr_Willis: but why do I do that?
[07:09] <somsip> Dr_Willis: the ondrej PHP PPA throws up a few side issues. It can be a tricky one
[07:09] <Dr_Willis> kept back means - the system has decided the packages are impornatant  so are locked down.
[07:10] <Audica> Does anyone know where to look for information about Data Recovery for Optical Media?
[07:10] <Audica> These damn discs keep coming up blank and I know they're not.
[07:10] <Dr_Willis> there should be articals at askubuntu.com and other sites on why packaghes get 'held'
[07:10] <lng> Dr_Willis: I see
[07:10] <Dr_Willis> Audica:  ive had dvd/cd drives get missaligned where they cant read some disks from other drives.
[07:10] <wh-hw> Pancakez, i just want mouse to dark
[07:11] <Dr_Willis> Audica:  try to dd one disk to an image file so you can examine it in detail perhaps in a safe fashion
[07:11] <Audica> Dr_Willis, can I do that to a disk that shows up as blank?
[07:11] <lng> Dr_Willis: Thanks for your help! I got what I needed.
[07:11] <Dr_Willis> Audica:  you can normally use dd on any disk to make an image. ;)
[07:12] <Audica> Hmm. I'ma give it a try thanks Dr.
[07:12] <Audica> brb.
[07:12] <Dr_Willis> even dvd video disks. ;) but that has gotten trickier in the last year or 2
[07:14] <wh-hw> any other easy way ?
[07:15] <Audica> Dr_Willis, I tried that, and it generated a 4.1kb iso, which had nothing on it. Unreadable in OSX, blank in Linux.
[07:16] <Audica> I also went to my media folder to see what was mounted, and under CD rom it says there were 0 items, and 1.2 gb of free psace, when I look at the DVD, it looks a little bit more than 3/4 full, so I'm guessing what it's catching there is the free space.
[07:17] <Audica> lol wh-hw, linux is not the OS to use if you're looking to do everything the easy way. learn to do things the linux way, it's fun!
[07:18] <orca_> How do I convert m4v to mp4 in UBUNTU, GUI's preferred.
[07:18] <orca_> Hello?
[07:19] <Audica> Orca, these things tend to take a few minutes, a lot of us have to dig for some answers.
[07:19] <cfhowlett> orca_, don't be scared.  ffmpeg command: ffmpeg -i input.m4v output.mp4
[07:19] <Audica> Do you have ffmpeg?
[07:19] <orca_> I think it comes preloaded.
[07:19] <Audica> mk, try the code Cfhowlett suggested
[07:19] <kostkon> orca_: plenty of application's in the software centre
[07:20] <cfhowlett> orca_, apt-cache policy ffmpeg will tell you if it's installed
[07:20] <Audica> another option is ffmpeg -i file1.m4v - target ntsc-dvd file2.mpg
[07:20] <orca_> If I use ffmpeg where does it save?
[07:20] <orca_> same folder?
[07:21] <Audica> Orca, use directories in your code, but typically yes same folder
[07:21] <orca_> But if it damages it...nevermind, i should create backups right?
[07:21] <Audica> ex. /Desktop/file1.mv4 -target ntsc-dvd /video/file2.mpg
[07:21] <Audica> You should always create a backup when it comes to computers.
[07:22] <cfhowlett> orca_, originall will only be read ... not damaged
[07:22] <Audica> Speaking of which, Dr_willis, any ideas?
[07:22] <Audica> Orca, Cfhowlett is right, but on the off chance this video is huge and this takes a long time and somehow crashes something, you're better off having a backup than not having one
[07:23] <orca_> The video is 8-12 GB
[07:23] <Audica> Jesus, personally for files that big i'd find a mac and use final cut :p
[07:24] <orca_> I have a pentium 4 with 2gb of ram. That would take a while... am I right?
[07:24] <cfhowlett> 12 GB! not sure I want to know what that is.  but unless you've got major ram, it's going to take a LONG time.
[07:24] <cfhowlett> orca_, 2 gigs?  12 gig input?  that's an overnight job at best
[07:24] <orca_> Well, that's only one of them
[07:24] <orca_> I have 60 of these.
[07:25] <Audica> Orca, i'd chop that down into segs and re-render them. where are you getting these videos?
[07:25] <cfhowlett> orca_, there used to be an online video editing cloud community.  I imagine transcoding something like this would be right up their alley
[07:26] <orca_> Audica, I'm just trying to format these mv4 to mp4 for compatibility on my LG LED TV
[07:27] <cfhowlett> orca_, long term project ...
[07:27] <orca_> Because, hauling my entire computer to the TV is a pain, but, by the sound of this... I would be far more easy.
[07:28] <fightback> orca_, probably indeed.
[07:28] <orca_> Thanks for the info everybody. I'm out. Peace
[07:28] <cfhowlett> orca_, best of luck
[07:29] <jony_easyrider> https://ssh.serverdo.in/ - this is safe to use?
[07:30] <cfhowlett> !ubuntu-server|jony_easyrider,
[07:30] <Audica> I'm guessing know one has any idea how to do that data recovery other than dd?
[07:36] <pentest> Guys I am stuck. This is LTSP related. Please help..here is the details
[07:36] <pentest> Host OS Xubuntu 13.04 is the LTSP server. 1 wifi card connected to Internet. I have got wlan0 (addr:192.168.1.2) and virbr0 (addr:192.168.122.1). Thin Client Guest OS installed in Virtual Box. dhcpd.conf edited with these values:
[07:36] <pentest> authoritative;
[07:36] <pentest> subnet 192.168.122.0 netmask 255.255.255.0 {
[07:36] <pentest>     range 192.168.122.20 192.168.122.250;
[07:36] <FloodBot1> pentest: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:36] <pentest>     option domain-name "example.com";
[07:37] <cfhowlett> pentest, paste it!
[07:37] <energizer> I'm trying to use pipelight for netflix but its not working. help?
[07:37] <energizer> (following this http://www.webupd8.org/2013/08/pipelight-use-silverlight-in-your-linux.html)
[07:39] <pentest> Guys I am stuck. This is LTSP related. Please help..here is the details
[07:39] <pentest> Host OS Xubuntu 13.04 is the LTSP server. 1 wifi card connected to Internet. I have got wlan0 (addr:192.168.1.2) and virbr0 (addr:192.168.122.1). Thin Client Guest OS installed in Virtual Box. dhcpd.conf edited with these values:
[07:39] <pentest> authoritative;
[07:39] <pentest> subnet 192.168.122.0 netmask 255.255.255.0 {
[07:39] <pentest>     range 192.168.122.20 192.168.122.250;
[07:39] <pentest>     option domain-name "example.com";
[07:39] <FloodBot1> pentest: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:49] <Dr_Willis_> pentest:  perhaps state what the problem is - befor all the details.
[07:52] <pentest> sure mate..
[07:52] <pentest> I cannot boot up my LTSP thin client
[07:52] <pentest> what to do..
[07:52] <pentest> askaway I will answer
[07:53] <Dr_Willis_> you are trying to boot a thin client in vbox, from  the server that vbox is running on? sort of as a test case?
[07:54] <pentest> yes kind of..
[07:54] <pentest> basically LTSP server in the host os..
[07:55] <pentest> Thinkclient is in virtual box.
[07:55] <pentest> I have got only 1 nic
[07:55] <Dr_Willis_> ther some reason you dont have the vbox client on the 192.168.1.* range of ips?
[07:55] <pentest> which is wlan0 and connected to internet
[07:55] <Dr_Willis_> then it would think its on the same main lan as server.
[07:56] <Dr_Willis_> that way it would better similate other thing clients on the lan as well.
[07:56] <Dr_Willis_> simulate
[07:56] <pentest> well when I boot up my comp I see there is virbr0
[07:56] <pentest> here is ifconfig
[07:56] <pentest> virbr0    Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 26:b1:c6:fe:2a:8e
[07:56] <pentest>           inet addr:192.168.122.1  Bcast:192.168.122.255  Mask:255.255.255.0
[07:56] <Ponch0> Ok to upload theme to conky it seems to be looking for a .cmtp.7z file but alot of the themes are either just .7z or .zip, how do I upload the theme into conky?
[07:57] <pentest> I edited /etc/ltsp/dhcpd.conf
[07:57] <qwebirc> whois/ ponch0
[07:57] <Dr_Willis_> and in vbox it says its ip is 192.168.122.1 - YOU can set vbox wher its network mode is  some other type (in the vbox settings) and its ip would be 192.168.1.*  then - same as any other machine on the lan
[07:57] <Dr_Willis_> Ponch0:  extract them to some ConkyConfig Dir of your chooseing, then tell conky to use them via the cli
[07:57] <pentest> sure.. you can.. but then there will be the conflict..
[07:58] <Ponch0> Dr_Williz_ thank you.
[07:58] <pentest> router will give out ip so is the LTSP server dhcp.. in the same network
[07:58] <Dr_Willis_> Ponch0:  thers a neat tool called 'conky manager' at either webupd8 or omgubuntu, that can make conky setup a lot easier
[07:58] <Ponch0> I'm using it :D, still doesn't see the other extensions.
[07:59] <Dr_Willis_> Ponch0:  what extensions? conky dosent use archives. You need to extract the files to some directory
[07:59] <Dr_Willis_> !zip
[07:59] <Dr_Willis_> !info unp
[08:03] <Ponch0> Dr_Willis_ those themes that are .cmtp.7z extract no problem in the manager all other extensions don't so I probably have to set up the dir like you said. Thank you
[08:04] <Dr_Willis_> Ponch0:  iv e never heard of a .cmtp extension. 7z is a common arvhive format
[08:04] <Dr_Willis_> unless they are for conky-manager or somthing ive not noticed befor
[08:05] <Dr_Willis_> just use the default themes that come with conky manager, and a huge theme pack from its homepage that just extracts to your home directory
[08:08] <Dr_Willis> Conky is the kind of thing you can spend weeks playing with..
[08:08] <Dr_Willis> and realize that its sort of pointless. because its always covered up by your othjer windows. ;p
[08:08] <Ponch0> Yup exactly for conky manager
[08:09] <Ponch0> lol it is pointless you're right, but it's new to me so i'll be messing with haha
[08:10] <Dr_Willis> conky manager - had a menu item to Import themes i think.
[08:10] <Ponch0> Yes but it will only import .cmtp.7z :/ lol
[08:10] <Ponch0> I guess it's a new thing for them maybe since they had the recent release of 1.2?
[08:11] <Dr_Willis_> all i did for conly manager was get a HUGE theme pack from their forums/download pag that included like all themes , it just exttracted to  your home
[08:11] <Dr_Willis_> Conky manager ONLY handle specially made conky manager themes
[08:12] <Ponch0> Ok if u extracted then, that tells me that they changed a few things
[08:13] <Dr_Willis_> this might have just been a special all-in-one-jumbo pack
[08:14] <Ponch0> Dr_Willis_ : you're awesome I figured it out
[08:14] <Dr_Willis_> oh? :)
[08:15] <Dr_Willis_> setting up conky manager on my netbook right now.
[08:15] <Ponch0> thanks to you, so thank you
[08:15] <Dr_Willis_> I liked the metro theme. but it was differnt on one pc i had. then the other pc. not sure wht the deal was with it.
[08:15] <Ponch0> If I can't import it, I just extract it to the conky/themes folder... doh!
[08:19] <Dr_Willis_> http://teejeetech.blogspot.in/p/conky-manager.html   shows an import .cmtp.7z item ;)
[08:19] <andrei_> hello
[08:19] <Dr_Willis_> http://www.mediafire.com/download/5yb5ambg6h4jack/Deluxe_Conky_Theme_Pack.cmtp.7z  is all i use - dident even know there were other theme packs
[08:20] <Ponch0> Oh yeah there are so many, one sec, I personally like the NSA one.
[08:21] <Ponch0> http://www.deviantart.com/customization/skins/?order=5&q=conky
[08:22] <ejv> I'd probably urge against copy/pasting mediafire.com links; their ads have been known to be malicious in the past.
[08:23] <Ponch0> I'm pretty sure that link is directly from the conky-manager website, ejv
[08:23] <fishcooker> what is oem installer?
[08:24] <ejv> just my recommendation /me shrugs
[08:24] <cfhowlett> !oem|fishcooker,
[08:24] <cfhowlett> fishcooker, OEM is a way of installing the OS + updates and pre-configuring for a new user to turn on, set up his/her account and go to work.
[08:24] <no_gravity> Hello! "apt-get install dnsutils" fails because "dnsutils: Depends: libbind9-60 (= 1:9.7.0.dfsg.P1-1ubuntu0.10) but it is not going to be installed" and other dependencies. What does this mean? How can I resolv it?
[08:25] <Dr_Willis_> yep. direct from the conky manager site. and.. ads? what ads? I dont see no stinking ads. :) truely. i dont
[08:26] <fishcooker> is it like mass install cfhowlett?
[08:26] <fishcooker> i don't think so
[08:27] <cfhowlett> fishcooker, if you're a system builder?  absolutely.  if YOU are the ender user?  no.
[08:27] <Dr_Willis_> Ponch0:  conky manager from the ppa. imported that theme pack just fine for me just now.
[08:27] <fishcooker> :-(
[08:27] <cfhowlett> fishcooker, are you setting up for other users?
[08:27] <cfhowlett> fishcooker, better yet, do you WANT multiple install?
[08:27] <fishcooker> actually i have costumized ubuntu on vmware.. i want to deploy to many machine
[08:28] <cfhowlett> !remastersys|fishcooker,
[08:28] <cfhowlett> !custom|fishcooker, there's a way.  let me look
[08:28] <cfhowlett> !customized
[08:28]  * cfhowlett ... dagnabit ubottu!
[08:28] <Ponch0> Dr_Willis_ Correct, that theme packs imports just fine, I was speaking about all the theme packs people are uploading from the link I gave above, but I figured it out.. extracting to conky/themes does the job :)
[08:29] <Ponch0> http://www.deviantart.com/customization/skins/?order=5&q=conky
[08:29] <cfhowlett> !remaster
[08:29] <cfhowlett> fishcooker see above, ^^^^^
[08:30] <cfhowlett> !uck|fishcooker,
[08:31] <cfhowlett> fishcooker, see    http://ubottu.com/factoids.cgi?search=custom
[08:31] <Dr_Willis_> Ponch0:  i dident really notice any packs from users. :) i figured with 71 themes in that pack. i dont need many more
[08:32] <Ponch0> Lol that's true, but i really liked that NSA theme from there.
[08:32] <Dr_Willis_> to many themes look cool.. but are totally unreadable.
[08:32] <cfhowlett> Dr_Willis, you're sure you have enough?  There's really no need to be conservative or deprive yourself.  Indulge!
[08:33] <Dr_Willis_> cfhowlett:  the only theme i like - is the metro theme. ;) and its about as basic a conky them as you can get
[08:33] <Dr_Willis_> then again. i cant actually see conky.. since i got my terminal window fullscreened
[08:33] <Ponch0> cfhowlett, has a point.
[08:34] <Dr_Willis_> conky it the kind of thing you play with for a a few days/weeks then just stop using. ;)
[08:35] <Dr_Willis_> funny when conky shows it self as the top cpu loading app on the system meter in conky
[08:35] <Ponch0> I noticed that, I don't even see it ever haha
[08:36] <Dr_Willis_> ive seen some other conky-theme generators at the webupd8 and omgubuntu sites over the last 2 years. But conky was real popylar for a few months last year or so.. then has faded away again. ;)
[08:37] <Dr_Willis_> well night all.. Bed time for the Dr.
[08:37] <Ponch0> Yeah, I don't see using it long term, It's just not visible
[08:38] <Ponch0> Dr, thanks for your help have a good night
[08:38] <Nicky> hi can someone help me with a quick command in terminal plz
[08:38] <cfhowlett> !details|Nicky,
[08:39] <Nicky> i ran a program that made a huge list of information which I'd like to save in a log file.
[08:39] <Nicky> from my terminal, I'd like to save it to a text file or something. it's for my college class on computer security :)
[08:39] <llutz> Nicky: "cmd >mylogfile"
[08:39] <Nicky> its just info that ran in terminal for 154 hours
[08:39] <Nicky> 14*
[08:40] <Nicky> ok ill try that but i think it told me "cmd" command was no good let me try
[08:40] <llutz> Nicky: "cmd" is the program you run
[08:40] <Nicky> oh yes i already have terminal open the cmd program is open already
[08:40] <Nicky> im using ubuntu
[08:41] <Nicky> i ran a program for 14 hours today and i need to save the log file
[08:41] <Nicky> it was recording data in terminal all day its pretty useless data but i would like to save it regardless
[08:42] <Nicky> i was supposed to type log when i ran the command 14 hours ago but i was hoping that even though i didnt i could still save the log
[08:42] <Gentoo64> unless you redirect the output it usually isnt saved anywhere but the terminal buffer
[08:42] <fishcooker> cfhowlett: i think dell won't supported ubuntu anymore :-)
[08:42] <fishcooker> http://linux.dell.com/dru/install-gui.sh
[08:43] <Nicky> terminal buffer ?
[08:43] <cfhowlett> fishcooker, they're trying awfully hard to bring ubuntu to China as is HP
[08:44] <Myrtti> fishcooker: Dell XPS 13 Sputnik
[08:44] <fishcooker> have u got the message The requested URL /dru/install.sh was not found on this server.
[08:44] <fishcooker> LoL
[08:44] <cfhowlett> Myrtti, exactly!  can't believe I forgot.
[08:44] <Myrtti> fishcooker: also many of their business end laptops are available with Ubuntu per request
[08:45] <Myrtti> even if it's not advertised
[08:45] <Nicky> dang there is a lot of ppl in here
[08:45] <Nicky> so anyone know how i can save all the data i recorded today ?
[08:45] <cfhowlett> fishcooker, context and details for those who aren't tracking your thread?
[08:45] <Gentoo64> Nicky: the output on the terminal (when you scroll back) has a size limit
[08:45] <Nicky> yes i see that when i was doing some checking earlier
[08:45] <Myrtti> Nicky: history might help, but not indefinitely
[08:46] <llutz> Nicky: scroll back in terminal, mark content with the mouse, paste it into a file
[08:46] <Nicky> how can i see the history
[08:46] <Myrtti> Nicky: type "history"
[08:46] <Nicky> ok thank  u
[08:46] <Myrtti> and man history
[08:46] <llutz> history saves commands, not output of those
[08:46] <Nicky> i knew a guy named lutz once. we played a game called knight online together
[08:46] <Nicky> probably a common name
[08:47] <Nicky> darn thats not going to be what i need either llutz
[08:47] <serapath> hi
[08:47] <Myrtti> llutz: hence "might"
[08:47] <cfhowlett> serapath, greetings
[08:48] <serapath> can someone tell me how to add script execution to: startup, reboot, wakeup, sleep, hibernate and other events? so that they run right before or in case of "startup/bootup/resume" stuff, after they have occured?
[08:48] <Dr_Willis> Nicky:  the 'script' command can save commands, and all command output to a file - somthing to rember  for the future
[08:48] <serapath> maybe some kind of template that support to add scripts to all of those events and where to place it
[08:49] <Nicky> script hm
[08:49] <Dr_Willis> serapath:  i imagine theres not going to be a simple straight anser. because  all those cases can depend on things. ;) and what commands you are doing.
[08:49] <Nicky> i will try that that sounds exactly what i need
[08:49] <Dr_Willis> Nicky:  and i recall some site/page/way to make sort of a console 'movie' of the scripts output  (the typescript log)  ;)
[08:50] <Dr_Willis> good for  example/tutorials.
[08:50] <Dr_Willis> and a LOT smaller then desktop recordings.
[08:50] <AndChat465716> Nicky: okay
[08:50] <Nicky> i ran script but it only saved a blank file
[08:50] <Nicky> i guess i cant save everything that ran today, huh?
[08:50] <Dr_Willis> you do it BEFOR your commands.. and it records everything into a file named typescript
[08:50] <serapath> Dr_Willis: i just want to start some daemons which are deactivated for some reason and not restartet when i power up or resume the system. i dont want to start them manually each time
[08:51] <Dr_Willis> Nicky:  unless you can go back in timne.. No.
[08:51] <llutz> Nicky: it will add all commands and their output you issue _from now_
[08:51] <Nicky> :)
[08:51] <Nicky> im glad i didnt search all night for an answer to this
[08:51] <Nicky> u guys told me i cant do it thats good enough for me
[08:51] <Dr_Willis> serapath:  id check askubuntu.com  - i recall there being some process thts ran on a suspend/resume. but i never use suspend ;)
[08:51] <Nicky> and here i thought it must surely be possible
[08:52] <Dr_Willis> 'the system records everything i ever done in entiretly'  :) by default? err.. no
[08:52] <Nicky> ill just run the thing again tomorrow with the log command
[08:52] <bumcats> Nicky: there is no way
[08:52] <Dr_Willis> just a bash history.  by default.
[08:52] <Dr_Willis> you could run it in screen and go to sleep and come back later. ;)
[08:53]  * Dr_Willis really has to wonder what sort of thing needd to be logged in such a way
[08:53] <Nicky> im running a VM on a multi million dollar server from my college
[08:53] <Nicky> its pretty kool but i have to hack into a windows machine using RDP and its slow as hell
[08:53] <Dr_Willis> they dident spend any of that money for a way to use the machine? ;)
[08:54] <Nicky> the ubuntu machine took about 20 minutes to crack lol the windows one either needs a different dictionary for the attack or i gotta guess the PW but we gotta submit the logs
[08:54] <bumcats> Yes way cool
[08:54] <Nicky> anyways thank u for your help
[08:55] <Nicky> i will be back im sure
[08:55] <Nicky> cheers
[08:55] <Dr_Willis> 0_o is this homework.. or a federal offense in process?
[08:55] <bumcats> Cheerio
[08:55] <Dr_Willis> ;P
[08:55] <rostam> HI are there any site to ask about networking issues on Ubuntu? thx
[08:55] <cfhowlett> !ask|rostam,
[08:55] <Dr_Willis> rostam:  askubuntu.com and the ubuntu forums are the 2 main sites.
[08:55] <Dr_Willis> rostam:  then theres here of course.
[08:55] <cfhowlett> !network|rostam,
[08:55] <bumcats> rostam: yes
[08:56] <Dr_Willis> night all.
[08:57] <rostam> bumcats,  other than those Dr_willis pointed out, what is the name of that site please? thx
[08:58] <bumcats> rostam: what?
[08:59] <bumcats> rostam: Dr Willis?
[09:00] <menace> hi, i'm currently using Ubuntu 12.04.x, but i want to use vagrant with libvirt/kvm. In 12.04 the tools does not seem to be properly integrated, is the situation better with 13.04?
[09:00] <bumcats> menace: yes
[09:01] <rostam> bumcats, sorry I misunderstood your original response.
[09:01] <rostam> Does anyone knows what udp errors means in the output of the netstat -su  ? thx
[09:02] <bumcats> rostam: its just that
[09:03] <bumcats> menace: it is fast
[09:04] <MrD504> #rpi
[09:04] <MrD504> sorry about that, new to irc just trying to figure it out
[09:04] <bumcats> MrD504: yes
[09:08] <bumcats> MrD504: is it working?
[09:14] <menace> bumcats: that means i can install vagrant/libvirt/virt-manager and use vagrant with libvirt out of the box?
[09:14] <gordonjcp> vagrant ftw
[09:15] <scunbum> menace: ur okay
[09:15] <scunbum> gordonjcp: so
[09:16] <menace> wat was that? bumcats called me a obama loving jerk/bastard in query.. I'm not even american. wtf? o_O
[09:17] <rostam> bumcats just send me some very nasty notes, who is this guy
[09:20] <karab44> Why my screen blinks from time to time? I use nvidia drivers on 13.04 (12.04 was the same)
[09:23] <baby_born> is anyone from indonesia??
[09:24] <ArielX> hello all
[09:25] <baby_born> helloo
[09:25] <ArielX> bz@BENZINO:~/Downloads$ gzip -cd gtk+-2.24.13.tar.xz | tar xvf -
[09:25] <ArielX> gzip: gtk+-2.24.13.tar.xz: not in gzip format
[09:25] <ArielX> tar: This does not look like a tar archive
[09:25] <ArielX> tar: Exiting with failure status due to previous errors
[09:26] <geirha> ArielX: .xz indicates it's compressed with xz, not gzip. so xz -cd gtk+...
[09:26] <ArielX> ty
[09:26] <geirha> then again, GNU tar will automatically detect and decompress it, so  tar -xf gtk+-2.24.13.tar.xz  will suffice
[09:30] <serapath> could someone provide an answer to this question? http://askubuntu.com/questions/352224/howto-start-scripts-before-after-startup-reboot-suspend-hibernate-power
[09:35] <scunbum> ArielX: yes
[09:35] <scunbum> serapath: ?
[09:35] <serapath> hi
[09:36] <ArielX> yes scumbun
[09:36] <ArielX> yes scumbum
[09:36] <serapath> scunbum: whats ur question?
[09:37] <ArielX> answered.. thanks bro been long
[09:37] <serapath> scunbum: could u help me with that question i posted?
[09:38] <scunbum> serapath: yes
[09:38] <ArielX> [10:37:25] <scunbum> You maggot
[09:38] <ArielX> [10:37:51] <ArielX> excuse me
[09:38] <ArielX> [10:38:26] <scunbum> Fuck u
[09:38] <FloodBot1> ArielX: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:40] <serapath> ok
[09:40] <serapath> would u?
[09:41] <Rory> serapath: He got removed from the channel
[09:41] <serapath> oh
[09:41] <serapath> damn
[09:41] <serapath> ok
[09:41] <Rory> serapath: He wouldn't have helped you anyway
[09:41] <serapath> ok
[09:41] <serapath> hmm, could u?
[09:41] <serapath> :-)
[09:42] <baby_born> :v
[09:45] <Rory> serapath: if you change your echo statements to echo "whatever" >> /var/log/test.log
[09:46] <Rory> serapath: Does the file /var/log/test.log get filled with what you echo?
[09:46] <serapath> i will try, thx. but is there a way to test it faster than just to wait?
[09:46] <Rory> serapath: You could suspend and resume
[09:46] <roochy> What is the difference between "halt" and "shutdown -h now"
[09:46] <serapath> because i'm using koding.com and it has a vm i could use through the browser. i assume it gets suspended after about 20 minutes of being idle
[09:46] <serapath> currently i'm waiting that this happens
[09:47] <Rory> serapath: Don't assume that
[09:47] <Rory> serapath: It's probably the entire virtual machine is put into a suspended state mode, which wouldn't be visible to the operating system, so you can't script it
[09:47] <serapath> ok, is there a way to do something then?
[09:48] <Rory> serapath: Install your own Ubuntu VM :)
[09:48] <serapath> because when i return to koding.com, my dropbox service and my nodejs server are stopped and i have to manually start them again
[09:48] <llutz> roochy: read "man halt"
[09:49] <serapath> if the VM is put into a suspended state mode, that shouldnt happen, right?
[09:49] <serapath> or at least they should be still running when i return to koding.com
[09:49] <Rory> serapath: Well, suspend it yourself or wait for it to suspend
[09:49] <serapath> its a bit cumbersome to always start all that stuff manually
[09:49] <serapath> how can i suspend it myself?
[09:50] <serapath> i'll google that
[09:50] <serapath> thx
[09:50] <serapath> :-)
[09:52] <Rory> serapath: top-right corner, there is a power menu
[09:56] <serapath> Rory: are u talking about koding.com? dont understand what or where u mean...
[09:56] <serapath> i do not use gnome or something... just terminal
[09:59] <jony_easyrider> https://ssh.serverdo.in/ - this is safe to use?
[10:00] <yenal> hi ..can somebody help me I have no greater than / less then keys on my keyboard but according to my Xmodmap there must be one specified "keycode  94 = less greater less greater bar brokenbar bar" how to resolve which key is keycode 94?
[10:00] <llutz> jony_easyrider: still offtopic here
[10:00] <jony_easyrider> ty
[10:01] <serapath> Rory: pmi action suspend doesnt work, because pmi is not known
[10:01] <serapath> Rory: is there perhaps another way?
[10:01] <Rory> serapath: I don't know about the server edition, you should ask in #ubuntu-server
[10:02] <archyme> sudo bash -c "sleep 1m; pm-suspend"  work?
[10:02] <serapath> thx
[10:02] <kenn_> hi people
[10:02] <Rory> kenn_: Hello
[10:04] <kenn_> could somebody help me with agere modem driver compilation please?
[10:04] <Rory> kenn_: What Ubuntu version are you using?
[10:04] <ArielX> checking for BASE_DEPENDENCIES... no
[10:04] <ArielX> configure: error: Package requirements (glib-2.0 >= 2.35.3    atk >= 2.7.5    pango >= 1.32.4    cairo >= 1.10.0    cairo-gobject >= 1.10.0    gdk-pixbuf-2.0 >= 2.27.1) were not met:
[10:04] <kenn_> 13.04
[10:04] <kenn_> 32 bit
[10:04] <Rory> kenn_: And does the modem have a make and model? Are you trying to follow a specific guide?
[10:05] <Rory> ArielX: What are you trying to do? Can you put the commands you ran, along with the full output, on http://paste.ubuntu.com and then let me know the URL?
[10:05] <kenn_> Lucene HDA i think
[10:05] <Rory> kenn_: How is it connected to your computer? USB?
[10:06] <kenn_>  it's on HDA auidio chip
[10:06] <serapath> archyme: not sure. if i use it, it does something, but not sure what exactly...
[10:06] <kenn_> not usb
[10:06] <Rory> kenn_: That's odd, are you sure that's correct? If you are sure that's fine
[10:07] <Aztec|> i'm just following this guid to build a new kernel from sources, http://linuxtweaking.blogspot.de/2010/05/how-to-compile-kernel-on-ubuntu-1004.html
[10:07] <Rory> kenn_: Can you please run the command: "lspci -v" and paste the full output on http://paste.ubuntu.com and then let me know the URL
[10:07] <Aztec|> but it say'S You must put some 'source' URIs in your sources.list
[10:07] <Rory> Aztec|: That guide mentions Ubuntu 10.04, what Ubuntu version are you using?
[10:07] <Aztec|> I have searched for this but found nothing usefull
[10:07] <ArielX> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6178998/
[10:07] <Aztec|> 10.04 :-)
[10:08] <Rory> Aztec|: On the desktop?
[10:08] <Aztec|> nope server
[10:08] <kenn_> i followed some guide on the net, a script detected my modem, but source code of it not compatible with current OS
[10:08] <Rory> Aztec|: OK can you please pastebin the contents of your /etc/apt/sources.list file?
[10:08] <Rory> kenn_: Could I have the output from lspci -v please, read my message above
[10:09] <kenn_> ok
[10:09] <Rory> ArielX: What are you trying to do btw?
[10:09] <Aztec|> http://pastebin.com/2shqShhF
[10:09] <kenn_> how can i send it? it' quite long output
[10:09] <Rory> Aztec|: Copy each line, and on the copy change deb to deb-src
[10:09] <Rory> kenn_: Can you please run the command: "lspci -v" and paste the full output on http://paste.ubuntu.com and then let me know the URL
[10:10] <ArielX> just trying to install evasi0n
[10:10] <kenn_> ok
[10:10] <Rory> ArielX: It looks like you're trying to compile GTK, why do you think you need to do that? Are you following a guide?
[10:10] <ArielX> just trying to install evasi0n
[10:10] <Aztec|> thx Rory
[10:10] <ArielX> yes I a following a guide
[10:10] <Rory> Aztec|: you should have 6 lines then: 3 deb, and 3 deb-src
[10:11] <Rory> ArielX: What Ubuntu version are you using?
[10:11] <ArielX> but after all I encounted the error as discribed
[10:11] <ArielX> 12.04 LTS
[10:11] <kenn_> here it is http://paste.ubuntu.com/6179002/
[10:11] <Rory> ArielX: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:noobslab/evasion; sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install evasion-linux
[10:12] <Rory> kenn_: Did you say you were following a guide? Can you show me the guide?
[10:13] <Aztec|> "Unable to find a source package for linux-image-2.6.18-028stab094.3" it's probably too old ...
[10:14] <kenn_> i followed this guide https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DialupModemHowto/Lucent/Agere
[10:15] <Guest41822> hi I'm running lubuntu on an older laptop. 13.04's kernal wouldn't run on this things processor so I went with 12.04. my question is should I open up the backports or not from 13.04 on here? would that be the best choice for an older laptop or is 12.04 as is as good as it gets speed wise
[10:15] <babilen> Aztec|: That doesn't look like an official kernel at all, but rather like one from your hoster. Is this some (old, deprecated) OpenVZ cheap hoster?
[10:15] <Rory> kenn_: Yes no wonder it isn't working, the script it wants you to download isn't there any more. Give me a minute
[10:16] <kenn_> ok
[10:16] <Aztec|> this is server4you "2.6.18-028stab094.3 #1 SMP Thu Sep 22 12:47:37 MSD 2011 x86_64 GNU/Linux"
[10:16] <deployment> anyone know how i can download from apt-get but not install. Then move this download to another machine without internet, and install?
[10:16] <yenal> can somebody help me I have no greater than / less then keys on my keyboard but according to my Xmodmap there must be one specified "keycode  94 = less greater less greater bar brokenbar bar" how to resolve which key is keycode 94?
[10:17] <z034> apt-url?
[10:17] <reuf> apt-get download
[10:17] <reuf> deployment, apt-get download
[10:17] <deployment> will apt-get download get everything it needs for offline install?
[10:17] <deployment> where does it download to?
[10:17] <SId3> downloads
[10:18] <kenn_> it says that it's a propriety driver licence issue, Agere doesnt want to share the code
[10:18] <ArielX> Rory: I'm talking about ebasi0n for iphone JailBreak
[10:18] <SId3> plz tell me how to run bash script as root from php
[10:18] <deployment> once i find / copy to other machine, how to i install?
[10:18] <ArielX> Rory: I'm talking about evasi0n for iphone JailBreak
[10:18] <deployment> do i need to makeall or something?
[10:19] <reuf> /var/cache/apt/archives
[10:19] <Myrtti> SId3: that's incredibly unsecure and dangerous. I can't think of any reason you'd want to do that.
[10:19] <reuf> deployment, /var/cache/apt/archives
[10:19] <reuf> deployment, apt-get clean will remove them from there
[10:19] <babilen> Aztec|: Looks as if they are running OpenVZ with their own (horribly outdated) kernel. Seems to be one of the cheapo hosters that are hard to deal with. What are you trying to do?
[10:19] <SId3> plz tell me about this dangerous method
[10:19] <SId3> its ok if its dangerous
[10:19] <ActionParsnip> deployment: yes it will pull down all deps
[10:19] <SId3> i will compromise
[10:20] <Myrtti> SId3: on a customers production server?
[10:20] <deployment> Thanks, so once downloaded and transported.
[10:20] <SId3> no
[10:20] <deployment> how to i start the install.
[10:20] <SId3> i want to give it as php standalone application
[10:20] <deployment> + picking the correct dep
[10:21] <deployment> apt-get download
[10:21] <Rory> ArielX: I know you are, and it's packaged in that PPA
[10:21] <Aztec|> babilen: just want to have support for xt_NFQUEUE
[10:21] <Rory> kenn_: Can you please pastebin the output of: wget rory.sh/files/modem.sh; sh modem.sh
[10:22] <kenn_> ok
[10:22] <reuf> deployment, once you download packages to /var/cache/apt/archive
[10:22] <reuf> copy them to same location on offline machine
[10:22] <reuf> than call
[10:22] <reuf> apt-get install
[10:22] <reuf> and they should get installed
[10:22] <FloodBot1> reuf: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:23] <deployment> reuf: should i put them back in the same dir
[10:23] <reuf> deployment,
[10:23] <reuf> yes
[10:23] <deployment> oh i see
[10:23] <reuf> and than just call apt-get install
[10:23] <reuf> and they will get installed
[10:23] <SId3> how to run bash script from php as root
[10:23] <Rory> kenn_: I don't know if it'll work though, the instructions are old, and I don't have that modem to test with
[10:23] <deployment> then when i do the apt-get install it will find the package anyway and install
[10:23] <Rory> SId3: Don't
[10:23] <Rory> !sudo | SId3
[10:23] <deployment> not try looking online..
[10:24] <reuf> deployment, yes
[10:24] <SId3> i did sudo but was not able to write to a file in opt older
[10:24] <deployment> reuf: Thanks for your help.
[10:24] <SId3> permission denied
[10:24] <Rory> SId3: What user is PHP running as?
[10:24] <SId3> root
[10:24] <reuf> deployment, yw - try it - if it fails, come back and we can try looking for another solution
[10:24] <Rory> SId3: Then it's already running as root. You don't need to do anything
[10:24] <SId3> i have mentioned it in httpd conf and php.ini too
[10:25] <SId3> but permission denied is coming
[10:25] <Rory> SId3: if you run "sudo ps aux | grep p[h]p" what do you see? use http://paste.ubuntu.com if there's more than one line
[10:25] <deployment> reuf: Yeh will do. it will be a day or two so i'll be back possibly. Thanks Again..
[10:25] <reuf> deployment, if that fails than just run>  sudo dpkg -i /var/cache/apt/archive/*.deb
[10:27] <reuf> deployment,
[10:27] <reuf> the main problem with using apt-get install on offline machine
[10:27] <angie_> running lubuntu 12.04 on an older laptop . is it a good idea to backport for speed or not
[10:27] <Rory> angie_: Backport what?
[10:27] <babilen> Aztec|: I wouldn't necessarily assume that you can do that inside the OpenVZ container. See https://bugzilla.openvz.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1677 for a relevant bug report. You should consider OpenVZ to be old and deprecated technology. I would use a reasonable hoster if you require these features.
[10:27] <reuf> is that apt-get will try downloading depenecies as it sees them missing
[10:28] <deployment> ruef:recived
[10:28] <reuf> deployment, when you are using apt-get - main idea behind apt-get was that it weould take care of dependencies and download them
[10:28] <angie_> Rory, backport 12.04 for more recent updates in say 13.04. the proccessor on here won't take the 13.04 kernal. its an old laptop
[10:28] <reuf> when using dpkg if there are missing dependencies you will have a problem
[10:28] <Rory> angie_: "won't take" - why not? What do you mean? What happens when you try?
[10:28] <babilen> Aztec|: As you can tell by the reaction of the OpenVZ community to this bug report a patch/fix is probably not forthcoming anytime soon.
[10:29] <Myrtti> angie_: no, it's not a good idea. Use backports from the <version>-backports if you must, but don't mix and match repositories and packages from different releases
[10:29] <Myrtti> that's the road to dependency hell and broken systems
[10:32] <angie_> Myrtti, I was thinking about backporting the updates from 13.04 since this laptop will only take 12.04. but if it would screw it up then I won't. 13.04's kernal won't work on this toshiba tecra laptop. its old. Thankfully 12.04 works
[10:33] <kenn_> sorry i'm late
[10:33] <kenn_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6179059/
[10:33] <Myrtti> angie_: you're better off with 12.04 on older systems that need to work anyway - if you want to try 13.04 with a bit different setup (depending on how it breaks for you) you could always try lubuntu or xubuntu
[10:34] <angie_> angie_, I'm on lubuntu. as light as it gets in my opinion.
[10:34] <angie_> Myrtti, i'm on lubuntu. as light as it gets in my opinion. other then puppy. wich I hate.
[10:34] <owlbread> i'm a huge fan of xubuntu personally
[10:34] <owlbread> super light, and looks good to boot
[10:35] <owlbread> runs on my tiny intel atom-powered netbook
[10:39] <angie_> Myrtti, thanks for the help preciate it
[10:39] <Rory> ArielX: Did you get it installed?
[10:43] <AceKing> I am having a sound probem on my PC. I'm running 13.04 64 bit. I have sound from my front output, but no volume control. Here is the output of aplay -l and lspci -v | grep -iA7 audio. Hopefully someone can help me. I've been searching on google for 2 days now.  http://paste.ubuntu.com/6179080/
[10:46] <Rory> AceKing: That was the best question I've ever seen, I can't ask for more information
[10:46] <AceKing> Also, I have PulseAudio installed. If I try to run it, it says "Connection to PulseAudio Failed. Automatic retry in 5s" but just sits there
[10:46] <Rory> All take note of AceKing's question-asking ability
[10:46] <archyme> Rory, is that how it should be done?
[10:47] <AceKing> Rory, thanks
[10:47] <SId3> how to run a command with sudo without entering password
[10:47] <gordonjcp> !sudo
[10:47] <SId3> omy god
[10:47] <SId3> i dont want this
[10:47] <Rory> archyme: http://twitter.com/how_to_ubuntu is pretty typical of most questions. But I digress. AceKing can you try reinstalling pulseaudio? (sudo apt-get --purge --reinstall install pulseaudio)
[10:48] <gordonjcp> SId3: what, full comprehensive instructions on how to do what you want?
[10:48] <SId3> i just want to run sudo echo abc > /opt/a.txt
[10:48] <gordonjcp> SId3: that won't work for a start
[10:48] <AceKing> Rory, thank you, I will try that
[10:48] <SId3> like this i want to write a file in opt
[10:48] <gordonjcp> SId3: sudo will affect echo but not the rediret
[10:48] <SId3> but permission denied
[10:48] <gordonjcp> corect
[10:48] <archyme> SId3, sudo -s keeps the password for the duration of the session
[10:48] <gordonjcp> also this keyboad is sticky
[10:48] <Andre_Gomes_P> Hello, can anyone help me please?
[10:48] <Rory> SId3: you would have to run "echo abc | sudo tee /opt/a.txt"
[10:48] <gordonjcp> !help | Andre_Gomes_P
[10:48] <SId3> what should i do
[10:49] <SId3> sudo echo asdf > /opt/a.txt
[10:49] <SId3> permission denied
[10:49] <Rory> SId3: Did my solution not work?
[10:49] <Rory> SId3: That's unfortunate since it does
[10:49] <Andre_Gomes_P> i think i just did a whole mess to my system, i typed pure-pw mkpasswd -l > /etc/passwd and then pure-pw mkgroup -l > /etc/group now the system wont boot, it's a cloud server (ubuntu server 12.04)
[10:50] <Rory> Andre_Gomes_P: Yes that's gone
[10:50] <SId3> im sorry my pc turned off
[10:50] <SId3> i was not able to see solution rory
[10:50] <Rory> Andre_Gomes_P: Uness you have a backup of /etc/passwd and /etc/group
[10:50] <Rory> SId3: you would have to run "echo abc | sudo tee /opt/a.txt"
[10:50] <Rory> SId3: or tee -a to append
[10:50] <SId3> ok let me try it
[10:51] <Andre_Gomes_P> Rory: I won't have =(, i could manage to boot on secure mode (some kind of centos secure mode), but no idea what to do in there
[10:51] <SId3> it aks for password
[10:52] <Rory> SId3: That's right yes
[10:52] <SId3> thats what i dont want to give rory
[10:52] <Rory> !sudo | SId3
[10:52] <SId3> how to do this as normal user
[10:52] <Rory> SId3: I can't remember the syntax for /etc/sudoers off the top of my head, but the answer's in there
[10:52] <Andre_Gomes_P> Rory: there is not any way to fix it?
[10:52] <Rory> Andre_Gomes_P: If you can access the drive your Ubuntu installation is on, from the recovery boot thing
[10:52] <row248> Can you give me instruction about how i can create bootable usb with (X)buntu?
[10:53] <Rory> !install | row248
[10:53] <Rory> Andre_Gomes_P: Then you can edit the /etc/passwd and /etc/group file to put them back how they were
[10:53] <Rory> Andre_Gomes_P: And next time you clobber a file, take a backup of it first!
[10:54] <Myrtti> SId3: there's so many things wrong with what you're trying that I suspect you'll end up with the system being unusable, and we will not help you with that. You're clearly doing something wrong, you've been told that several times over, and yet you persist. If we knew exactly what you're trying to achieve, we could help you, but I suspect that point has long gone.
[10:54] <Andre_Gomes_P> Rory Thanks!
[10:54] <Rory> Myrtti: Saving that one...
[10:55] <Myrtti> SId3: there are correct ways of doing things, you clearly don't care about them. That makes us pretty unable to help with you. Good luck and hopefully you aren't trying this for a customer project on a customer server.
[10:56] <Rory> SId3: It's OK we can help you, if you go back to the beginning and explain what you're trying to achieve?
[10:57] <Myrtti> ... I'll assume he'll ignore everything I said and claim to not have seen it
[10:57] <Myrtti> there is a limit to which this channel can help others dig their graves, and there's a point when those people need to be told that they need to try some other method. This is it.
[10:57] <Rory> Is there a canonical (pardon the pun) list of supported or recommended USB modems?
[10:58] <AceKing> Rory, thank you for the help with my sound issue. I ran what you posted, restarted, and everything is working again!
[10:58] <Myrtti> Rory: hold on, let me find it, I think there is
[10:58] <Rory> AceKing: Hooray :D Comprehensive question = immediate correct answer
[10:58] <AceKing> Rory, Thank you!
[10:59] <ActionParsnip> !hcl | Rory
[10:59] <archyme> AceKing, thanks for demonstrating the proper way to do things for noobs like myself :D
[10:59] <Rory> ActionParsnip: Yeah I checked there, no section for modems
[10:59] <Myrtti> Rory: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkManager/Hardware/3G has something in it, if it's mobile you're looking for
[11:00] <AceKing> archyme: You're welcome
[11:01] <ActionParsnip> Rory: do you mean 3G modems, or dialup?
[11:02] <AceKing> archyme: We were all noobs at one time. I've been using Ubuntu for 6 years now, and found this to be the friendliest, and most helpful group you will ever find
[11:03] <Myrtti> AceKing: we try ♥
[11:03] <Rory> AceKing: Actually it's for kenn_ I've advised him to post on the forums
[11:03] <AceKing> Myrtti: :)
[11:04]  * cfhowlett ... has been here for years and is *slightly* less noobish.
[11:04]  * Rory is technically a professional Ubuntu user
[11:05] <ActionParsnip> Rory: are you a member?
[11:06] <Rory> ActionParsnip: No, but I use Ubuntu on servers at work I'm paid to maintain. So that makes me a professional :)
[11:06] <ArielX_> Rory
[11:06] <Rory> ArielX_: Hello, yes?
[11:06] <ArielX_> http://www.noobslab.com/2013/05/mac-os-x-theme-for-ubuntu-1304-raring.html
[11:06] <ActionParsnip> Rory: I look after Oracle and Debian boxes but wouldnt say I was a professional. I just look after some systems
[11:07] <ArielX_> can I use it for 12.04 LTS too
[11:07] <Rory> ArielX_: I'm going to say yes
[11:08] <Rory> ArielX_: But only because I'm about 90% sure it will work
[11:08] <ArielX_> ok ty working .. just you say yes I'm ok
[11:08] <Rory> ArielX_: The point is though, if it doesn't work it's no big deal, so you might as well try
[11:08] <ArielX_> lol
[11:08] <ArielX_> afraid
[11:08] <Rory> That looks really nice actually, I might use it at home
[11:09] <Rory> ArielX_: You're not going to irreversably break your system by installing a theme
[11:09] <Rory> ArielX_: Anyway that's what we're here for
[11:09] <ArielX_> Install Mac OS X Theme on Ubuntu 13.04 Raring Ringtail/12.10/12.04/Linux Mint 15/14/13
[11:09] <ArielX_> I think it will work though
[11:12] <lotuspsychje> is there an backup package recommended for ubuntu servers?
[11:12] <archyme> how do you define code in a message? such as "sudo apt-get update"
[11:18] <Rory> archyme: What do you mean, could you rephrase that?
[11:29] <BluesKaj> Howdy all
[11:30] <archyme> BluesKaj, hello!
[11:30] <bmxscott1993> why tor not working keep coming up with this Vidalia was unable to authenticate to the Tor software. (Control socket is not connected.) Please check your control port authentication settings. on ubuntu
[11:32] <axselemos> hi guys, ubuntu is running dnsmasq by default? where can i find the config?
[11:34] <BluesKaj> hi archyme
[11:34] <upd> axselemos, no. you will have to install it, then you will have /etc/dnsmasq.conf
[11:34] <jazouani> hello
[11:35] <axselemos> yeah, but when i installed it it says a dnsmasq is running already
[11:36] <axselemos> an open 53 is already there and its dnsmasq... tried configuring /etc/dnsmasq.conf and tried restarting it says port 53 is already taken
[11:36] <axselemos> in used..
[11:37] <axselemos> and also /etc/hosts is only using nameserver 127.0.0.1 so it means there's already a running dnsserver or forward..
[11:37] <axselemos> ---
[11:37] <axselemos> 12.04 now runs dnsmasq, a compact DNS server. The reasoning for this, according to the developers, is to handle situations where your machine has multiple network interfaces with different DNS servers. This can pose problems for people using virtual private networks (VPNs) and in other so-called "multi-homed" contexts. (Personally, I think this approach is overkill since the proportion of users facing this problem is pretty small.)
[11:38] <axselemos> also found this somewhere..
[11:46] <giwon> ???
[11:49] <maximus2> please help me! i am using ubuntu tweak and i went to software center and i pressed sync and it said update available and i pressed yes and it said whilst error!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[11:50] <PeterGriffin> Hello everybody. I want to configure 2 VLANS between 2 ubuntu routers. The purpose is to balance between 2 internet connections which are delivered in a big distance between one another. I want one of the routers to be the gateway and to use one of the VLANS to deliver the distant internet "line" to it.  My question is (provided that you agree that this scenario is adequate) will it work if I use a cupple of cheap, non-layer 3 aware switches as a trunk
[11:50] <PeterGriffin>  line between the two routers?
[11:53] <yenal> is is possible to use < or > in case statements for bash? e.g case $x in
[11:53] <yenal> >1)
[11:56] <k1l> !details | maximus2
[11:57] <ArielX_> Rory
[11:57] <ArielX_> Rory
[11:57] <ArielX_> Rory
[11:57] <FloodBot1> ArielX_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:58] <maximus2> ok petergriffin so whats your point?
[11:58] <ArielX_> Rory
[11:58] <Myrtti> ArielX_: they've been idle for 40 minutes
[11:58] <ArielX_> bz@BENZINO:~$ gsettings set com.canonical.desktop.interface scrollbar-mode normal
[11:58] <ArielX_> No such schema 'com.canonical.desktop.interface'
[11:58] <PeterGriffin> yenal: I think you could escape it with \ but I'd recommend to avoid it.
[11:58] <Myrtti> ArielX_: is there something someone else could help with
[11:59] <k1l> !guidelines > ArielX_
[11:59] <yenal> kk ty PeterGriffin
[11:59]  * maximus2 is clapping
[12:00] <PeterGriffin> maximus2: Well is it a problem to use layer 2 switches to connect a trunk line for 2 VLANS?
[12:00] <maximus2> yes
[12:00] <geirha> yenal: If you want it to mean "greater than 1", then no. You'll need an if block for that.
[12:01] <Rory> ArielX_: Hello, yes, I was on lunch. One highlight would have been plenty
[12:01] <ArielX_> ha! welcome
[12:01] <geirha> yenal: if (( x > 1 )); then ...; elif (( x == 0 )); then ...; fi
[12:01] <maximus2> what an easy peice of bacon you are!
[12:02] <ArielX_> Rory see my error?
[12:02]  * maximus2 is clapping
[12:02] <PeterGriffin> maximus2: So to be clear you say it wont work?
[12:02] <yenal> yep .. I just wanted to know if that is possible with case but it seems the only solution with case is something like [0-9])...;; 1[0-5])...;; and so on to define periodes
[12:02] <maximus2> yes
[12:02] <ArielX_> Rory
[12:02] <geirha> yenal: indeed
[12:03] <maximus2> what an easy peice of bacon you are!
[12:03] <ArielX_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6179289/
[12:03] <PeterGriffin> Ok. Thank you.
[12:03] <ObrienDave> dang, and I thought the full moon was last week. that's what I get for thinking. sheesh
[12:04] <Rory> ArielX_: First result for Googling that error: http://askubuntu.com/questions/282387/error-no-such-schema-com-canonical-desktop-interface
[12:04] <Rory> ArielX_: The solution you are trying to do is suitable for Ubuntu versions 12.10 and not for 12.04 LTS.
[12:07] <minas> When I boot my PC, firefox takes about 17 seconds to open, and about 4 more seconds to be usable (as the home page is still blank). Is this normal?
[12:07] <babinlonston> help me any one ............... ForbiddenYou don't have permission to access / on this server.
[12:07] <babinlonston> Apache/2.2.22 (Ubuntu) Server at 192.168.1.8 Port 80
[12:08] <Gentoo64> minas: no
[12:08] <minas> Gentoo64, what might be the cause?
[12:08] <Rory> minas: Does it occur on another user? Such as the guest user?
[12:08] <minas> Rory, didn't try to be honest
[12:08] <Rory> minas: That's why I was asking, I was prompting you to try now :)
[12:08] <Gentoo64> minas: might be the firefox profile, try renaming it
[12:08] <yenal> geirha: is it better to use <,>,=,!= and so on or -gt, -lt, -eq, -ne ?
[12:09] <lagerpc> Does anyone here have any tips on what GPU I should get for a laptop to play new games, not necessarily with good graphics. It should be easy to install the drivers (having problems with Optimus now), and don't know how nVidia and ATI will evolve, or how well Iris Pro do on games :/
[12:09] <Gentoo64> minas mv ~/.mozilla ~/.mozillabackup
[12:09] <Gentoo64> then try it
[12:09] <minas> Gentoo64, ok
[12:09] <Rory> minas: Or try another user if you have one; same result
[12:10] <minas> Rory, i will make one in a bit cause I can't restart now :) thanks for the help gusy
[12:10] <minas> guys
[12:10] <Rory> minas: You don't need to restart
[12:10] <Rory> minas: You can switch users with the menu in the top-right corner without logging out of your current user
[12:10] <minas> Rory, but I don't, won't firefox be in RAM?
[12:11] <Rory> minas: It'll help me know if the problem is with your profile or not
[12:11] <geirha> yenal: In #bash we recommend using (( )) to test numbers, and [[ to tests strings and files. And in ((, the operators are < and > etc, -gt -lt etc are not valid there.
[12:11] <yenal> ah okay thank you
[12:12] <geirha> yenal: In [[, both > and -gt are valid operators, but they do different things. > compares strings lexicographically (ala strcmp in C), while -gt compares integers
[12:12] <cfhowlett> minas, it's always been that way or is it a recent change?
[12:12] <BluesKaj> lagerpc:  check this out , http://askubuntu.com/questions/348614/bumblebee-on-ubuntu-13-04-with-geforce-750m-and-driver-319
[12:12] <minas> Rory, ok doing it kno
[12:12] <minas> *now
[12:14] <Rory> "without logging out" *whoosh*
[12:14] <yenal> geirha: so I can keep in mind (( $x < y )) for numbers and [[ ${x[*]} > ${y[*]} ]] for strings/arrays and so on
[12:14] <lagerpc> BluesKaj: That is more than I want to go through to install a driver :/ I tried to install nvidia-prime, -settings and -319, but that ruined the graphical setting so I can't get in to the desktop again :/
[12:15] <lagerpc> BluesKaj: So I just want something that works. Like it did before Optimus, or like it does with Intel.
[12:15] <minas> cfhowlett, Rory, I don't remember exactly, but it's been quite some time. Ok I logged in from guest account and firefox opened in <2 seconds
[12:15] <Gentoo64> minas: its probably the extensions, or some of the profile is messed up
[12:16] <Rory> minas: OK so the problem is somewhere in your firefox profile. Try removing addons you don't use, and press ctrl+shift+delete in Firefox to delete your browsing history and other stuff
[12:16] <BluesKaj> lagerpc:  got bumblebee installed ?
[12:17] <minas> Gentoo64, well, I use xmarks, adblock plus, easy youtube downloader, html5 pdf viewer (and some more which where pre-installed by ubuntu)
[12:17] <geirha> yenal: Yes, though note that ${x[*]} expands into a string, and you don't need $ in front of variables in ((
[12:17] <Rory> minas: Then yes it is normal for Firefox to take that long to start
[12:17] <lagerpc> BluesKaj: I had on Ubuntu 13.04. Started applications with optirun, but didn't work on games like GW2 or through Steam.
[12:17] <Gentoo64> minas: try removing the ectension 1 by1 and see what one slows it down
[12:17] <cfhowlett> minas, or, if you've set up autoupdate, your traffic was clogged.
[12:18] <BluesKaj> ok nm , too many restrictions , lagerpc , perhaps someone else can help
[12:18] <lagerpc> BluesKaj: But it did work when I testet with and without with the glxsphere in the terminal.
[12:18] <minas> cfhowlett, I haven't. is that a plugin too?
[12:19] <cfhowlett> minas, no that would be an Ubuntu system setting.
[12:19] <lagerpc> BluesKaj: Well, I am more looking for a PC without Optimus, that has good drivers, and work with newer games. Sad that it has to be this much troubles just to install a driver :/
[12:19] <minas> cfhowlett, Oh, I don't think I have. Ok I will try remove one at a time
[12:20] <BluesKaj> lagerpc:  well that's your call
[12:20] <lagerpc> BluesKaj: What do you mean?
[12:20] <Rory> lagerpc: I have a PC that meets your description, and I've always just installed the driver from the driver tool without issue. So it's not universal, it's just Optimus
[12:21] <BluesKaj> lagerpc:  your decision
[12:21] <lagerpc> Rory: But the drivers does not show in the driver tool. It just say it is no drivers needed.
[12:22] <Rory> lagerpc: Yes but you said "I am... looking for a PC... that has good drivers... this much trouble just to install a driver"
[12:23] <Rory> lagerpc: And I'm demonstrating that what you're implying (driver installion on Ubuntu is impossibly difficult) is plain wrong
[12:25] <lagerpc> Rory: It is not impossible, but it is way harder than it was before Optimus came. On 13.04 I tried with bumblebee, but didn't seems to get it to work playing games through another client for some reason. On 13.10, I tried with -prime, -settings and -319, but now I can't get into the desktop. I would rather support someone who makes it easier for Linux users that what nvidia does now.
[12:26] <Rory> lagerpc: I'd recommend an AMD graphics card in that case, since that is what I have and it works
[12:26] <Rory> lagerpc: Although AMD graphics cards bring their own, different set of issues, it's overwhelmingly nvidia problems I see in this channel
[12:27] <thief_and_a_liar> when can we buy an ubunu phone?
[12:27] <Rory> !phone | thief_and_a_liar
[12:28] <lagerpc> Rory: That is kind of what I am leaning towards. But from 2003-2004, I have always chosen nVidia since it has been so easy to install. The last laptop has only been struggles when it comes to Linux. But then again, I often read that it is not easy to install ATI drivers and that the nVidia has better performance. So I am leaning towards Iris Pro, but somewhat skeptical about performance.
[12:29] <Rory> lagerpc: you could get an nvidia card that doesn't have optimis (am I right in saying that's a way to switch between integrated and discrete graphics?)
[12:30] <babinlonston> resmir: hi
[12:30] <babinlonston> resmir: hii
[12:30] <mjayk> lagerpc: im the same leaning towards iris on laptops but id like to see it work first :D
[12:31] <wawrek> hello, I have problems while booting ubuntu 13.04. it takes a while before loading the logging page and then I can see any bars, menus, tools, only some files on the desktop. I can launch the terminal though.
[12:32] <Rory> wawrek: Does this occur on all users, or just one?
[12:32] <wawrek> all users
[12:32] <Rory> wawrek: Is your system fully up-to-date: sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade
[12:33] <lagerpc> Rory: As far I have understood, it is. some laptops also gives the option to turn it off in BIOS as well, not mine of course. Had no clue I needed to check upon these things since I though everything would just work as usual.
[12:34] <wawrek> Rory: when I run a dist-upgrade I get an error, here is the paste: http://pastebin.com/S8dRy5r6
[12:34] <lagerpc> mjayk: There was an article, I'll see if I can find it. Think it gives some clues of what to expect.
[12:34] <Rory> wawrek: Is your disk full? Can you put the output of: "df -h" on http://paste.ubuntu.com
[12:35] <wawrek> Rory: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6179402/
[12:35] <wawrek> above the output of 'df -h'
[12:36] <Rory> wawrek: wget rory.sh/fixpackages; sh fixpackages
[12:36] <Rory> wawrek: You get a prize for an error I've never encountered before :)
[12:38] <wawrek> Rory: thanks, I run your script, will post the results to paste.ubuntu
[12:38] <Rory> wawrek: Maybe, try rebooting and see if it fixed it#
[12:38] <mrrcp> is there a code generator app that i can install with apt-get
[12:38] <mrrcp> ?
[12:38] <Rory> mrrcp: code generator?
[12:38] <mrrcp> yea
[12:39] <zykotick9> wawrek: looks like your /boot is almost full.  and dist-upgrade might be trying to install a new kernel (i don't vist pastebin.com so i can't see your origional paste)
[12:39] <mrrcp> you know like two step auth
[12:39] <Rory> mrrcp: Of course, how silly of me
[12:39] <Rory> zykotick9: Good call!
[12:39] <Rory> wawrek: Did my script run without error?
[12:40] <Rory> zykotick9: It almost certainly is that, since it was failing on installing a kernel package :)
[12:41] <mrrcp> so?
[12:41] <mjayk> lagerpc: cheers
[12:41] <Rory> mrrcp: What are you trying to do? Authenticate with Google or something?
[12:41] <wawrek> Rory: here is the message of your script http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/6179428/
[12:41] <Rory> mrrcp: Or are you trying to develop your own application which uses two-factor authentication?
[12:42] <mrrcp> yea ... i use two step with  google, facebook, microsoft etc
[12:42] <MonkeyDust> mrrcp  tip: there's also #ubuntu-app-devel
[12:42] <mrrcp> and im sick of having to pull out my phone
[12:42] <mrrcp> nope just want a app to keep the keys in and show my my code
[12:42] <Rory> OK wawrek please run this (copy and paste it... trust me :P) : dpkg -l 'linux-*' | sed '/^ii/!d;/'"$(uname -r | sed "s/\(.*\)-\([^0-9]\+\)/\1/")"'/d;s/^[^ ]* [^ ]* \([^ ]*\).*/\1/;/[0-9]/!d' | xargs sudo apt-get -y purge
[12:43] <Rory> wawrek: From here http://askubuntu.com/questions/2793/how-do-i-remove-or-hide-old-kernel-versions-to-clean-up-the-boot-menu
[12:43] <roochy> anyone know what aspmx stands for in aspmx.l.google.com ?
[12:43] <Rory> !ot | really roochy
[12:44] <archyme> !guidelines
[12:45] <mrrcp> trust you eh
[12:45] <mrrcp> lame
[12:45] <archyme> why is that lame?
[12:46] <wawrek> Rory: didn't empty the /boot directory http://paste.ubuntu.com/6179440/
[12:46] <DaemonicApathy> moochy:  Active Server Pages Mail Exchanger
[12:46] <DaemonicApathy> *roochy
[12:47] <MonkeyDust> archyme  "bash: !d': event not found"
[12:47] <archyme> ?
[12:48] <MonkeyDust> archyme  that line you suggested earlier, i tested it in a 13.10 chroot, to see what it does: "bash: !d': event not found"
[12:49] <archyme> humm... i dont remember which line that was and im on a different computer,
[12:49] <MonkeyDust> archyme  my mistake, it was Rory
[12:49] <archyme> :D
[12:50] <archyme> i shouldnt be giving out commands anyway im only a nooB :D
[12:50] <oli_> hello
[12:50] <cfhowlett> Oli, greetings
[12:51] <lagerpc> mjayk: Seems to be similar to the GT 650M, that is a sacrifice I might be willing to make compared to newer GPUs for laptops. Article one (page 6: Metro) http://www.anandtech.com/show/6993/intel-iris-pro-5200-graphics-review-core-i74950hq-tested/6 Article 2 (page 16: Skyrim) http://us.hardware.info/reviews/4776/16/intel-iris-pro-5200-graphics-review-the-end-of-mid-range-gpus-the-elder-scrolls-v-skyrim-1920x1080
[12:51] <roochy> DaemonicApathy, huh?
[12:52] <oli_> how do i get a working silverlight on ubuntu 12.04?
[12:52] <cfhowlett> !info silverlight
[12:52] <MonkeyDust> is silverlight still being maintained?
[12:52] <zykotick9> MonkeyDust: no
[12:52] <cfhowlett> MonkeyDust, apparently not
[12:53] <dlynch> Hi, I need help logging into X. As soon as I log in, something crashes X and I'm dumped back into the login screen immediately. I'm 99% sure it's because I'm not longer using an external monitor on my laptop. The guest user works fine (using it now). I don't know how to fix this.
[12:53] <oli_> novel moonlight was working before but closed down
[12:53] <MonkeyDust> oli_  there you have it
[12:54] <zykotick9> dlynch: log into console (ctrl+alt+f1), then "ls -al" do you see files owned by root?
[12:54] <Rory> MonkeyDust: Sorry what was me?
[12:54] <dlynch> zykotick9, nope, all looks normal
[12:55] <zykotick9> dlynch: ok, best of luck.
[12:55] <dlynch> zykotick9, the only one owned by root is .Xauthority
[12:55] <zykotick9> ;)
[12:55] <MonkeyDust> Rory  that bash you suggested earlier, i tested it in a chroot : "bash: !d': event not found"
[12:56] <zykotick9> dlynch: "sudo chown YOURUSENAME:YOURUSERNAME .Xauthority"
[12:56] <oli_> so there is no help?
[12:56] <Rory> !silverlight | oli_
[12:57] <dlynch> ok thanks zykotick9 let me logout and try that
[12:57] <geirha> MonkeyDust: possibly running it in a chroot introduced that error
[12:57] <lotuspsychje> is it safe to make an unattended ubuntu install?
[12:57] <wawrek> Rory: thanks for your help. was the output of your script normal?
[12:59] <oli_> sorry did not work
[12:59] <Rory> wawrek: No, did you run that crazy long command I said to?
[12:59] <BluesKaj> lotuspsychje:  only after you choose the location, and fill out username and password fields
[12:59] <matthias_arch> hello, can somebody help me with streaming my screen over network with ffmpeg?
[13:00] <Rory> oli_: Did not work? How are you testing?
[13:00] <Rory> matthias_arch: How far have you got?
[13:00] <lotuspsychje> BluesKaj: any packages you can recommend to make an unattended setup?
[13:00] <BluesKaj> lotuspsychje:  unless of course you nned to edit partitions etc
[13:00] <oli_> i runned " sudo apt-get install moonlight-plugin-mozilla "
[13:00] <Rory> oli_: What Ubuntu version are you using?
[13:01] <wawrek> Rory: I did and it did return an error: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6179485/
[13:01] <oli_> 12.04
[13:01] <wawrek> looks like a problem with my kernel
[13:01] <matthias_arch> Rory: I'm using ubuntu 12.04 and want to display the screen in vlc
[13:01] <BluesKaj> lotuspsychje:  it will install default packages , then you can install what you want to add later
[13:01] <Rory> wawrek: No it doesn't, it's a problem with your package manager
[13:02] <wawrek> Rory: good, what should I do?
[13:02] <zykotick9> wawrek: these "Input/output error" in your outputs, might be a bad sign...
[13:02] <lotuspsychje> BluesKaj: you know name of a package that can create such install?
[13:02] <BluesKaj> no
[13:02] <wawrek> Zack_Deee: hardware problems?
[13:02] <Rory> wawrek: Can you show me "df -h" again?
[13:03] <wawrek> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6179500/
[13:03] <wawrek> Rory: 'df -h' http://paste.ubuntu.com/6179500/
[13:03] <matthias_arch> Rory: I'm using this code ffmpeg -f x11grab -y -r 20 -s 1400x1050 -i :0.0 -vcodec libx264 -preset ultrafast -crf 25 -an -f mpegts -threads 0 -g 30 udp://192.168.178.238:1234
[13:03] <geirha> oli_: If you're trying to use some silverligt with DRM, then forget about it, it's unlikely there'll ever be drm support for linux
[13:04] <oli_> ok i have a other issue too. i cant run dvd zone 3. is this softwear or hardwear problem. i can run dvd zone 2
[13:04] <damon> thanks zykotick9 that worked... I have no idea how root came to own .Xauthority!
[13:04] <BluesKaj> lotuspsychje:  after an install then you can add the packages you want or remove apps you don't want or need then use aptoncd as a backup that can be used to install exactly what you want on ther pcs
[13:04] <wawrek> zykotick9: do you think it is not related to software but hardware?
[13:04] <zykotick9> damon: DON'T use sudo with GUI apps!  see "/msg ubottu gksudo" for details.
[13:05] <damon>  /msg ubottu gksudo
[13:05] <zykotick9> wawrek: the I/O errors MAY mean you have a failing drive... or i may not?  but i'd make backups while you can.
[13:05] <Rory> !gksudo > ubottu
[13:05] <Rory> oops
[13:05] <zykotick9> damon: no space at teh beginning ;)
[13:05] <Rory> damon: http://psychocats.net/ubuntu/graphicalsudo
[13:06] <vijaya> ubuntu
[13:06] <lotuspsychje> !info aptoncd | paulus68
[13:06] <lotuspsychje> BluesKaj: tnx mate
[13:08] <zykotick9> lotuspsychje: re auto-install, look into if ubuntu supports preseed
[13:09] <lotuspsychje> zykotick9: what you mean by preseed
[13:09] <matthias_arch> Rory: any ideas? ffmpeg -f x11grab -y -r 20 -s 1400x1050 -i :0.0 -f mpegts -g 30 udp://192.168.178.238:1234 on the client the error is mainstream error: cannot pre fill buffer
[13:09] <vijaya> hai
[13:09] <vijaya> anyone is there
[13:09] <cfhowlett> vijaya, greetings
[13:10] <vijaya> I need a help
[13:10] <Rory> !details
[13:10] <matthias_arch> !details
[13:10] <ezra-s> ubottu, be more specific darn it! :P
[13:10] <ezra-s> lol
[13:11] <Rory> matthias_arch: Take a look here http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-1767488.html
[13:11] <zykotick9> lotuspsychje: preseed is a way debian automates installs, i don't know if ubuntu supports it or not?  i've never used it.  i pasted dpkg's factoid for you http://paste.ubuntu.com/6179528/
[13:11] <vijaya> when I boot my system the display becoming black
[13:11] <vijaya> it is happening with ubuntu only
[13:11] <zykotick9> !nomodeset | vijaya
[13:11] <cfhowlett> !nomodeset|vijaya,
[13:11] <Rory> vijaya: What ubuntu version? has it ever worked?
[13:12] <Rory> bug in ubottu's rate limiting when you don't put spaces around the pipes
[13:12] <vijaya> yes, I was working with that till yesterday nyt
[13:12] <Rory> vijaya: if you select an older kernel version from Grub, does that boot sucesfully?
[13:13] <vijaya> no, I tried to recover it from recoverymode also
[13:13] <Rory> vijaya: OK, so now read the nomodeset info above and see if that works
[13:13] <lotuspsychje> zykotick9: ok tnx!
[13:13] <matthias_arch> Rory: I don't want audio. I just want to stream my desktop via ffmpeg
[13:13] <manuel__> hello there =)
[13:13] <vijaya> ok thanks, I will try then
[13:13] <manuel__> i'm running Lubuntu 13.04 and using usb soundcard on my system. but alsa mixer won't play sounds over the usb soundcard. sound comes only from onboard ali 5451 chip. but the jack's are brocken :/ could someone help me? =)
[13:14] <Rory> manuel__: You can select the audio output device from the sound menu
[13:14] <Rory> manuel__: I don't know Lubuntu well, so if you can't find the option, install the package "pavucontrol" which is a sound options GUI
[13:15] <zykotick9> Rory: manuel__ "might" not currently have pulse installed?  i'd doubt lubuntu uses it by default... but maybe?
[13:15] <Rory> !lubuntu | manuel__
[13:15] <manuel__> hey Rory. i've read something about pulse audio? the only problem is, that alsa mixer uses my brocken onboard chip as standard output. but i wanna use the usb soundcard :D
[13:16] <Rory> manuel__: I've said all I am going to say at this point
[13:16] <zykotick9> manuel__: is your usb card listed when you run "cat /proc/asound/cards"?
[13:16] <matthias_arch> Rory: ffmpeg -f x11grab -s 1400x1050 -r 30 -i :0.0+0,0 -f mpegts udp://192.168.178.238:1234   my server is 192.168.178.238 and on my client i want to open the stream with vlc udp://192.168.178.238:1234
[13:17] <manuel__> hey ubottu. yes that's right =) that's the reason why i'm running lubuntu. my system has low ram and only the old Pentium 4 @ 2.80GHz
[13:17] <manuel__> yes zykotick9
[13:17] <manuel__> alsa mixer show me both
[13:17] <manuel__> alsa 5451 as first and standard card and my usb_audio as second
[13:18] <SuperLag> I'd like to set up Ubuntu in such a way that I can download the latest daily, and script it to install in a VM and then install a few packages post-install. Is that what Chef/Puppet are for? or do you have to have the pre-made VM already for those?
[13:18] <manuel__> zykotick9 pulse audio isn't installed on my os =(
[13:18] <zykotick9> manuel__: in bios do you have an option to disable the onboard?  if so, i'd try that - hoping it would make the USB default (card 0)
[13:18] <Rory> manuel__: Then ask in #lubuntu because it's specific to that
[13:18] <manuel__> how can i install pulse audio via apt-get in UXTerminal?
[13:19] <Rory> SuperLag: Chef/puppet are for applying config files across a large system estate, nothing to do with what you're describing
[13:19] <zykotick9> manuel__: adding pulse MAY be opening a can of worms for you?
[13:19] <manuel__> no =( unfortunaly not =( the bios is strong locked by oem. i can only change boot mode and so on :/
[13:19] <Rory> SuperLag: If you are keeping Ubuntu up-to-date then you already have the latest daily anyway
[13:20] <manuel__> hey Rory. i tried it at #lubuntu :( but no one is writing :D
[13:20] <manuel__> sorry at @ for my bad bad english :D
[13:20] <Rory> manuel__: Yes that channel is slower than this one. Have you tried searching for how to set the default sound device in Lubuntu?
[13:21] <manuel__> Rory i don't know how to look :(
[13:21] <manuel__> i'm realy new at Lubuntu. With Ubuntu i'm good. but my system run realy slow with ubuntu =(
[13:22] <Rory> It's OK manuel__ I will help you in #lubuntu let's go there
[13:23] <manuel__> i try to install pulse audio with this command " sudo apt-get install pulse_audio " is that the right command?
[13:23] <manuel__> okay =) i'm online in #lubuntu
[13:23] <Rory> No don't do that
[13:23] <manuel__> okay
[13:23] <manuel__> i switch to #lubuntu right now ;)
[13:30] <fnstudio> hello! i need to install vagrant but have just realized that latest version under ubuntu (13.04) is a bit out-of-date: 1.0.3 instead of 1.3.3. Do you think there is a specific reason for this?
[13:31] <ArielX_> bz@BENZINO:~$ '/home/bz/.wine/dosdevices/f:/autorun.sh'
[13:31] <ArielX_> bash: /home/bz/.wine/dosdevices/f:/autorun.sh: Permission denied
[13:31] <Pici> fnstudio: because packages aren't updated after we do a release.
[13:31] <Pici> !latest | fnstudio
[13:32] <fnstudio> Pici: ah that makes sense - thank you very much!
[13:32] <ArielX_> !ppa
[13:32] <fnstudio> !backports
[13:32] <geirha> ArielX_: It means the file is not executable. You have to add that property. chmod +x '/home/bz/.wine/dosdevices/f:/autorun.sh'  or via properties -> permissions in the file manager
[13:34] <vijaya> there
[13:34] <vijaya> anyone
[13:36] <spidla> Hello, is there anyone who tried Ubuntu 13.10 ? I tested 64bit daily build, but I was stucked with some dpkg dependencies. It seems that apt-get/dpkg is unable to locate i386 dependencies on 64bit system. "apt-get install -f" is unable to solve this. It seems like there is somehow disabled 32bit libraries on 64bit system. Any clues ?
[13:36] <cfhowlett> !saucy|spidla,
[13:36] <vijaya> ubuntu
[13:36] <Pici> vijaya: Do you have an Ubuntu question?
[13:37] <spidla> sorry about that, changing channel
[13:37] <vijaya> yes
[13:37] <Pici> !ask | vijaya
[13:37] <vijaya> while I boot my system black screen is appearing??
[13:37] <vijaya> I tried to solve that by adding nomodest
[13:38] <vijaya> but still the problem is there??
[13:38] <vijaya>  how can I solve this
[13:38] <vijaya> can anyone help
[13:39] <vijaya> k :) ubottu
[13:39] <vijaya> anyone faced this issue ever??
[13:39] <ArielX_> sorry could not change the permission of "autorun.sh" :error setting permission: read-only file system
[13:39] <cfhowlett> !patience|vijaya,
[13:39] <ridho> help me
[13:40] <cfhowlett> ridho, clue #1: state the problem
[13:40] <Rory> ArielX_: What are you doing to produce that error? And what are you trying to achieve overall?
[13:41] <ArielX_> want to install my usb modem internet browser though it can connect without been installed just wanted to instal it anyway.
[13:41] <ArielX_> tried to change permission manually could not
[13:42] <ArielX_> so I can make arutorun.sh executable before runing and installing
[13:43] <MonkeyDust> ArielX_  what's the output of    ls -l autorun.sh ?
[13:43] <vijaya> thanq for answer, I will try...
[13:44] <ezra-s> ArielX_, "chmod u+x autorun.sh && ./autorun.sh"
[13:44] <geirha> ArielX_: So it's on a CD-rom? then you can't make it executable. Instead, find out what interpreter is supposed to be used (probably sh), by running ''file ./autorun.sh''
[13:45] <ArielX_> -r-------- 1 bz bz     94 Oct 23  2012 autorun.sh
[13:46] <ezra-s> sh autorun.sh
[13:46] <geirha> ArielX_: If it says  POSIX shell script text executable, then use  ''sh ./autorun.sh''  to run it.
[13:47] <Rexter> How can I tell what graphics adapter I have. Nothing is listed in the system profiler.
[13:48] <ArielX_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6179657/
[13:49] <geirha> ArielX_: ugh, and install_linux is not executable either?
[13:49] <ArielX_> yes
[13:50] <ArielX_> can make install_linux or autorun.sh  executable manually I wonder why
[13:51] <geirha> ArielX_: because a cd/dvd is read-only, so you can't make changes. Now why the files aren't executable already is a mystery. Sounds like you might have to copy the contents of the CD to some local directory and run it from there.
[13:51] <ArielX_> ha yeah.. havent tried that b4 though
[14:02] <ArielX_> bz@BENZINO:~$ '/home/bz/Desktop/autorun.sh'
[14:02] <ArielX_> You must run the process by root.
[14:02] <ArielX_> anyway I try still samer thing
[14:03] <Ponch0> the guberment sshut down, ubuntu has been deemed non-essential
[14:05] <ArielX_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6179706/
[14:05] <ikonia> Ponch0: what ??
[14:05] <apparatchik> hello everyone, which is the best way to permanently shred all data on a hard drive before you submit it to your dealer for a replacement?
[14:05] <ArielX_> pls see thanks
[14:06] <ikonia> ArielX_: what are you trying to install ?
[14:06] <Ponch0> wut
[14:06] <apparatchik> "wipe"  option on nautilus right-click menu is too slow for that, probably
[14:06] <ArielX_> want to install my usb modem internet browser though it can connect without been installed just wanted to instal it anyway.
[14:06] <Ponch0> ignore me: no sleep: cracked out on red bulls
[14:06] <Ben64> apparatchik: use dd to write all zeros to the drive
[14:06] <ikonia> ArielX_: ok - so there are multiple problems with that process
[14:07] <Rory> apparatchik: Look at a bootable utility called DBAN
[14:07] <apparatchik> ben64: could you please let me know what command do I need to perform that?
[14:07] <Rory> apparatchik: We use it at work for all the things
[14:07] <ikonia> ArielX_: the first one is it can't connect to your X server, the second one is the missing config files
[14:07] <Ben64> apparatchik: already said... "dd"
[14:07] <Rory> apparatchik: http://www.dban.org/
[14:07] <apparatchik> ben64, so is it "dd  /dev/sda" ?
[14:08] <Rory> apparatchik: It would be "dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sda"
[14:08] <Ben64> apparatchik: no... look at the man page for dd, you need an input and an output
[14:08] <apparatchik> ben64, ok, I'll look at the page
[14:09] <apparatchik> Rory, thank you very much!
[14:09] <apparatchik> ben64, many thanks!
[14:09] <apparatchik> so this shreds anything irrecoverably?
[14:09] <Ben64> yep
[14:09] <apparatchik> thank you!
[14:12] <apparatchik> any idea how long it takes to apply it on a 160GB hard drive half of which is currently free?
[14:13] <Rory> apparatchik: Makes no difference how much is free
[14:13] <Rory> apparatchik: I've always run it overnight and it's been done by morning
[14:13] <Rory> apparatchik: No idea if it takes 30 seconds or 8 hours
[14:13] <zvin> Hi guys
[14:13] <Rory> Hello zvin
[14:13] <apparatchik> Rory: duration has such a wide span? :)
[14:13] <zvin> If you have some time to waste, I'm trying to promote my bookmarklet
[14:14] <zvin> http://eatponies.com
[14:14] <zvin> It allows you to draw over the Internet
[14:14] <Rory> !ot
[14:14] <zvin> sorry should have used offtopic
[14:14] <Urbanlover234221> hello world!
[14:14] <Rory> Hello, Urbanlover234221
[14:16] <fission6> anyone here good with setting up a swap space
[14:17] <Rory> !anyone
[14:17] <Urbanlover234221> hello world!
[14:17] <Rory> underdog`: So you keep saying
[14:17] <Rory> Urbanlover234221: ^
[14:19] <fission6> my situation, i have a 512MB digital ocean instance and i see memory usage slowly creeps up after a few days of me running a few processes to support my web application - eventually i will move to a bigger instanced - until then I want to add swap because some of my processes are getting SIGKILLS, i am following this https://www.digitalocean.com/community/articles/how-to-add-swap-on-ubuntu-12-04
[14:19] <fission6> anyone have any initial thoughts
[14:19] <fission6> on what to be mindful of
[14:20] <Rory> fission6: That's a standard procedure, that tutorial looks OK to me
[14:20] <fission6> cool
[14:21] <fission6> can we talk about size of swap
[14:21] <fission6> whats ideal, they only set up a 512MG
[14:21] <fission6> I have 18 gigs of disk
[14:21] <fission6> i was actually thinking of 1 gig swap but maybe thats to much
[14:21] <Pici> fission6: Are you sure that your ram is actually being used? Have you looked at the buffers/cached line properly>?
[14:21] <hramrach> hello
[14:21] <fission6> Pici, how can i check
[14:21] <hramrach> what apt source do I use for Ubuntu packages?
[14:22] <Pici> !ram | fission6
[14:22] <Rory> hramrach: Could you re-phrase your question?
[14:22] <fission6> what am I looking for in this Pici
[14:22] <hramrach> (there is no installer for my device and debootstrap does not fill in any)
[14:22] <Rory> hramrach: http://repogen.simplylinux.ch <--- amazing
[14:23] <fission6> Pici, i have had processes receiving SIGKills
[14:23] <apparatchik> sorry, I havent found much on man page for dd. I just need what command to put on terminal so that it deletes the whole disk irrevocably. could you maybe provide me with this command line?
[14:23] <Pici> fission6: well, that is indeed a problem then.
[14:23] <fission6> dmesg looks like its killing high memory procesdures
[14:23] <fission6> processes
[14:23] <apparatchik> I mean, maybe there is much on the page, but I am not that advanced
[14:23] <Rory> apparatchik: I can guide you through this. Are you currently on a LiveCD?
[14:23] <Pici> fission6: see Rory's sources then ;)
[14:23] <apparatchik> Rory, no I am not.
[14:23] <apparatchik> I am still copying my last files onto external drive
[14:24] <Rory> apparatchik: You can't zero the drive Ubuntu is running on. Once your files have finished backing up, boot from a LiveCD and then poke me
[14:24] <apparatchik> Rory, ok, I'll do!
[14:24] <fission6> Pici what source?
[14:24] <hramrach> Rory: looks like that one will do, thanks
[14:24] <fission6> I have 87 Megs in +/- buffer cache
[14:25] <Rory> fission6: My amazing advice which is: Go ahead and make the swap file using that tutorial, it looks OK to me
[14:25] <Pici> fission6: er, sorry, I guess you linked it yourself.
[14:25] <fission6> cool
[14:25] <fission6> thanks
[14:25] <fission6> it looks like i don't need to reboot for the swap right?
[14:25] <Rory> fission6: Nope =)
[14:25] <fission6> cool, let me play
[14:25] <fission6> and do you think 512 is the right amount
[14:25] <kenn_> hi people :)
[14:25] <Rory> Hello, kenn_
[14:27] <helmut_> hi
[14:27] <fchmmr> hi, my system has 3D acceleration but i want to disable it and use LLVMPIPE instead. I have searched but nothing tells me how to force it to be enabled
[14:27] <fchmmr> can someone help me with this ?
[14:28] <fission6> cool thanks Rory and Pici set it up
[14:34] <Unico> what size i should give to / in new installation???
[14:35] <hramrach> unfortunately, the tool does not work:
[14:35] <hramrach> Err http://eu.archive.ubuntu.com saucy/main armhf Packages
[14:35] <hramrach>   404  Not Found [IP: 2001:67c:1360:8c01::15 80]
[14:35] <hramrach> so any other place to download Ubuntu packages?
[14:36] <neongas> hramrach, https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+archivemirrors‎
[14:37] <hramrach> I guess I am using those?
[14:37] <hramrach> maybe they are not guaranteed to carry armhf arch?
[14:38] <hramrach> ok, gotta go for now
[14:38] <hramrach> tahnks for help
[14:40] <Rory> !arm | hramrach
[14:41] <mimo888> jfs feat hfs+???
[14:41] <Rory> mimo888: Was that a question?
[14:42] <mimo888> jfs+ real???
[14:42] <Rory> mimo888: Do you have an Ubuntu support question?
[14:42] <mimo888> могу на русском и украинском.
[14:42] <Rory> !ru | mimo888
[14:42] <mimo888> спасибо.
[14:43] <Rory> mimo888: Нет проблем
[14:43] <Unico> Is it normal that occupy 50 gigabytes "log" folder?
[14:43] <Rory> Unico:is this /var/log folder?
[14:43] <Unico> yes Rory
[14:44] <Rory> Unico: if you run "sudo du /var/log | sort -n" you can see the biggest files
[14:45] <Rory> Unico: If you can't understand the output, please paste it onto http://paste.ubuntu.com and I will look for you
[14:46] <modafinil> is there anyway to have the pre-start part of an upstart job run as root, and NOT as the setgid/setuid user?
[14:46] <Rory> modafinil: good drug. yes there is, use "sudo" within the script
[14:46] <modafinil> yeah, other than that :)
[14:46] <Unico> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6179839/
[14:46] <Unico> here is
[14:46] <Rory> modafinil: No, that is how you do it
[14:47] <whi5key> HELLO
[14:47] <tuco_> gapdf
[14:47] <StarFlower> Hi whi5key
[14:47] <modafinil> rory: hrmm, i guess i could make another upstart job that does what i want, that is started on start of current job -- maybe timing would fail -- would prefer to avoid sudo here for a variety of reasons
[14:47] <siva_> where can i locate the installed package in unbuntu 13.04
[14:47] <modafinil> rory: appreciate the help though!
[14:48] <StarFlower> you can run the command whereis
[14:48] <Rory> Unico: Can you also pastebin the result of: ls -l --sort=size /var/log
[14:48] <StarFlower> as in whereis program
[14:48] <whi5key> whereis hi
[14:49] <Freebsdx> Тут можно писать по-русски?
[14:49] <Rory> !ru | Freebsdx
[14:50] <Unico> here is Rory >>> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6179848/
[14:50] <Freebsdx> not opened #ubuntu.ru
[14:50] <Rory> Freebsdx: /join #ubuntu-ru
[14:50] <Pici> !register | Freebsdx
[14:50] <whi5key> !ru | help
[14:51] <Guest91332> where can i find installed packages in ubuntu 13.04
[14:51] <Rory> Guest91332: Ubuntu Software Center
[14:51] <Guest91332> Rory, i want location
[14:51] <Rory> Guest91332: Location of what? Installed packages put files in many different locations?
[14:51] <StarFlower> run the whereis command
[14:51] <StarFlower> that will give you the location
[14:51] <Freebsdx> #ubuntu-ru
[14:52] <Rory> Guest91332: Archived packages are in /var/cache/apt/archives
[14:52] <Guest91332> in previous version all the installed packages located in archives location....
[14:53] <Rory> Guest91332: You can list all the installed packages on your system with: dpkg --get-selections | grep -v deinstall
[14:53] <Freebsdx>  /msg nickserv Freebsdx gOFzZk7w
[14:54] <Freebsdx> #ubuntu-ru
[14:54] <Rory> Freebsdx: /join #ubuntu-ru
[14:54] <Rory> Freebsdx: and now change your nickserv password!!
[14:55] <Freebsdx> msg NickServ IDENTIFY gOFzZk7w
[14:55] <jrr> Freebsdx: oops
[14:55] <LordOfLight> ouch
[14:55] <Rory> Freebsdx: Please stop omg
[14:56] <Freebsdx> #ubuntu-ru
[14:56] <Rory> !ru | Freebsdx
[14:56] <Pici> Freebsdx: check your email first to verify your account.
[14:56] <LordOfLight> Freebsdx: change your password if it is your actual password
[14:56] <Freebsdx>  /msg NickServ VERIFY REGISTER Freebsdx cylbwjlmvnja
[14:57] <Rory> This is amazing
[14:57] <ArielX> lol
[14:57] <jrr> anyone have a subversion 1.8 PPA for raring?
[14:57] <apparatchik> hi Rory!
[14:57] <apparatchik> I'm back
[14:59] <apparatchik> I have a question: I saved folders of thunderbird, and clawsmail as backup. in new installation can I just reaccess my existing mailbox by replacing these folders with the new program folders?
[14:59] <jrr> in case someone encounters my question in the IRC log, this seems to work: ppa:ondrej/apache2
[14:59] <Rory> apparatchik: Yes
[14:59] <{-r-}> hi everyone
[14:59] <Rory> Hello {-r-}
[15:00] <apparatchik> Rory, does the same hold for nevernote?
[15:00] <Rory> apparatchik: Probably
[15:00] <StarFlower> apparatchik, that sounds like it should work
[15:01] <apparatchik> I saved hidden program folders of nevernote and rednotebook that are found under home directory. I hope these to show existing contents just by replacement
[15:02] <apparatchik> the best way seems to be to make a test run on live cd before totally deleting them
[15:03] <apparatchik> StarFlower, Rory, thank you, I will see how it works when I am on live cd
[15:03] <apparatchik> Rory, can I already apply dd to partitions other than the one the system runs on?
[15:05] <Freebsdx> http://half-left.deviantart.com/art/GNOME-Shell-Ubuntu-Precise-Pangolin-Radiance-303531700
[15:06] <Freebsdx> How to give it Lucid lynx (ubuntu 10.04) shades?
[15:07] <Freebsdx> That the theme, as Radiance in ubuntu 10.04 looked
[15:08] <linuxearth> is there any way i can type mathematical symbols and equations in linux...?
[15:08] <Rory> apparatchik: yes
[15:08] <linuxearth> please tell me
[15:08] <apparatchik> Rory, can we then go about it together? :)
[15:09] <BrixSat> how do i increase a disk size?
[15:09] <Rory> apparatchik: Sure. If you run the command: "sudo fdisk -l" you will see your partitions and drives
[15:09] <linuxearth> is there any way i can type mathematical symbols and equations in linux...?
[15:09] <bwayne> linuxearth: libreoffice and tex/latex come to mind. libreoffice is probably easier.
[15:09] <Rory> BrixSat: Are you trying to resizea  partition?
[15:09] <linuxearth> libreoffice?
[15:09] <linuxearth> but how to use equations in that?
[15:09] <BrixSat> Rory:  yes
[15:09] <apparatchik> great, thank you Rory, just applying
[15:10] <BrixSat> Rory:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/6179921/
[15:10] <linuxearth> but how to use equations in libre office is there any way?
[15:10] <bwayne> linuxearth: http://www.libreoffice.org/features/math/
[15:10] <Rory> !GPARTED | BrixSat
[15:10] <BrixSat> Rory:  im on a server.... so gparted wont work
[15:10] <linuxearth> oh bwayne i see
[15:10] <apparatchik> Rory, the partitions are listed, and I figured which are the ones to shred now
[15:11] <Rory> BrixSat: What partition are you wanting to resize there, BrixSat - there's no free space to expand it into!
[15:11] <Rory> apparatchik: OK so is it called something like /dev/sda2
[15:11] <apparatchik> yes
[15:11] <apparatchik> Rory, yes
[15:11] <BrixSat> rory the vda2 is free i supose
[15:11] <bwayne> linuxearth: some other math resources in ubuntu: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuMath
[15:11] <Rory> BrixSat: ask in #ubuntu-server
[15:11] <BrixSat> ok
[15:12] <Rory> apparatchik: dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdXN bs=4k conv=notrunc
[15:13] <linuxearth> bwayne: but the word 'selection' is missing in my menu of 'View' in the section of libreoffice, still i search
[15:14] <apparatchik> Rory, here is the result: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6179933/
[15:14] <Rory> apparatchik: There is unfortunately no progress indicator, and like I said I don't know how long it'll take because I always do it overnight
[15:14] <bwayne> linuxearth: i don't have a copy of libreoffice in front of me to check exactly how.
[15:14] <Rory> hehe apparatchik not /dev/sdXN
[15:14] <Rory> apparatchik: Replace /dev/sdXN with the actual drive you want to zero
[15:14] <apparatchik> Rory, ohh :)
[15:14] <Rory> apparatchik: and be careful because if you make a typo you're gonna have a bad time
[15:15] <apparatchik> Rory, I had to add sudo at the beginning of the command. without it the permission was denied
[15:15] <Rory> apparatchik: Oh yes, sorry
[15:15] <linuxearth> libreoffice seems too typical to use
[15:15] <linuxearth> in this regard
[15:15] <linuxearth> bwayne: thanks for this
[15:15] <Rory> apparatchik: Does it seem to be working now? As in, it's sitting there seemingly doing nothing?
[15:16] <CountryfiedLinux> I've encountered an issue that's keeping me from using Unity
[15:16] <Rory> Oh yeah apparatchik you might want to do "sudo rm /dev/sdXN" because you made a really big file there full of zeroes :P
[15:16] <Rory> !details | CountryfiedLinux
[15:16] <CountryfiedLinux> When I set the launcher panel to autohide, I have to literally slam the pointer into the edge of the screen edge to get it to pop out from being hidden. So its that or have it always sticking out like a sore thumb.
[15:16] <CountryfiedLinux> Rory, ^
[15:17] <Rory> CountryfiedLinux: How would you prefer it to be?
[15:18] <CountryfiedLinux> Rory, Like Docky or Plank Dock. Once that pointer touches the edge of the screen it pops right up.
[15:18] <CountryfiedLinux> Rory, In Unity I had to press the pointer against the edge. Not as responsive/sensitive as a dock.
[15:18] <Rory> CountryfiedLinux: I think they reduced the sensitivity a release or two ago because it used to always appear at really annoying moments whenever your mouse was over there
[15:19] <CountryfiedLinux> Rory, Even at highest sensitivity I still have that issue. Very annoying. Other than that I'd gladly be using Unity.
[15:19] <CountryfiedLinux> But for now its Gnome Shell.
[15:20] <TiZ> Hi. I'm having some trouble logging into my computer. The session keeps crashing. It seems like it's not even getting to the point where anything is being logged to .xsession-errors; it always contains info from my last working session. But I can't find anything useful in /var/log/lightdm either. How can I find out what's wrong with my session?
[15:21] <CountryfiedLinux> Rory, Any idea if there's any workarounds for my issue here?
[15:21] <Rory> CountryfiedLinux: Does it occur on all users, such as the guest account?
[15:22] <CountryfiedLinux> Rory, Its just the way Unity is.
[15:23] <acidChrist> Hi everyone. I have mounted directory on guest machine to the host machine. rsyn synchronise data between guest and host. How to tell rsync to exlude one directory and stop synchronising them with host
[15:23] <acidChrist> ??
[15:23] <TiZ> Hi. I'm having some trouble logging into my computer. The session keeps crashing. It seems like it's not even getting to the point where anything is being logged to .xsession-errors; it always contains info from my last working session. But I can't find anything useful in /var/log/lightdm either. How can I find out what's wrong with my session? This is on my work computer; I am presently at a state where I can't do my job. It's critical that I get this back u
[15:23] <TiZ> p and running.
[15:24] <Rory> acidChrist: http://www.thegeekstuff.com/2011/01/rsync-exclude-files-and-folders/
[15:25] <acidChrist> Rory: I have read the article but if I create file in excluded dir it steal appear on host machine
[15:25] <Rory> acidChrist: What is the rsync command you're using?
[15:25] <acidChrist> sudo rsync -avz --exclude 'vendor' . .
[15:25] <CountryfiedLinux> Rory, Searching my issue in Google I see a lot of others are upset about this. It would be better if a user just decreased unhide sensitivity if they're having issues and left us that want it to just work on approach to have it be able to do so.
[15:26] <CountryfiedLinux> Oh well, perhaps in Unity 9
[15:26] <TiZ> I can't even access the grub menu right now; I hold shift and it just straight up gets ignored!
[15:26] <Rory> acidChrist: . . ?
[15:26] <acidChrist> Rory: source dest
[15:26] <acidChrist> where I'm in the source dir
[15:26] <Rory> acidChrist: OK as long as you aren't actually putting dots
[15:27] <Rory> acidChrist: When you run your command do you see the files in vendor being copied?
[15:27] <acidChrist> nop
[15:27] <Rory> Then they aren't being copied
[15:27] <Rory> the -v flag to rsync will show you every file that's copied
[15:28] <bubibubi> is it possible to use lubuntu from usb with possibility to add programs, save files etc  ?
[15:28] <acidChrist> Rory: so let's say I have the mounted point in /home/point and the directory to exclude is /home/point/dex
[15:28] <acidChrist> what the command should looks like
[15:28] <apparatchik> Hi Rory, apparatchik here
[15:29] <acidChrist> How'
[15:29] <Rory> acidChrist: Forget the fact it's virtual, forget the fact it's mounted
[15:29] <MonkeyDust> bubibubi  i guess you want !persistent usb installation
[15:29] <apparatchik> the other machine is still running, and freezing often..hence writing from here
[15:29] <Rory> acidChrist: "rsync -avz -exclude 'foo' source dest" will copy everything in source to dest, apart from the 'foo' directory. It will show you what's being copied also.
[15:29] <TiZ> Hi. I'm having some trouble logging into my computer. The session keeps crashing. It seems like it's not even getting to the point where anything is being logged to .xsession-errors; it always contains info from my last working session. But I can't find anything useful in /var/log/lightdm either. How can I find out what's wrong with my session? This is on my work computer; I am presently at a state where I can't do my job. It's critical that I get this back u
[15:29] <TiZ> p and running.
[15:29] <Rory> !patience | TiZ
[15:30] <dumfuq> hi
[15:30] <TiZ> Rory: Don't give me that. This is my *work* computer. I installed Ubuntu on a production machine and I *trusted* that it would not break.
[15:30] <bubibubi> ok thanx
[15:30] <Rory> TiZ: I don't like your attitude. Ignored.
[15:31] <dumfuq> TiZ, Ubuntu devs don't entitle you to anything, they're mostly volunteers
[15:31] <hramrach> TiZ: you should only trust what you have tested :p
[15:31] <acidChrist> Rory: based on the example if I wan't to exclude the dex dir from /home/point the command should looks rsync --exclude dex /home/point /home/point ?
[15:31] <gordonjcp> !attitude | TiZ
[15:32] <Rory> acidChrist: You're copying a directory to itsself there
[15:32] <TiZ> I'm not even asking anything hard. All I am asking for is to know which logfiles I need to check in order to solve the problem myself.
[15:32] <gordonjcp> TiZ: well, can you think of anything that might have caused this?
[15:32] <acidChrist> Rory: so rsync --exclude dex /home/point/dex /home/point/dex ?
[15:32] <Rory> acidChrist: What are you doing? Why are you using rsync?
[15:33] <gordonjcp> TiZ: and, which version of Ubuntu are you running?
[15:33] <apparatchik> TiZ: this is not a windows call center line.
[15:33] <Rory> acidChrist: What you have jsut said is "copy all the files from /home/point/dex into /home/point/dex, apart from dex"
[15:34] <dumfuq> I'm sure people with windows issues love calling Microsoft, waiting on hold for an hour, then being charged $35
[15:35] <TiZ> gordonjcp: There was a kernel update in the last update. I uninstalled that kernel, rolling back to the old one, and there was no change. Aside from that, there were indicator libs, samba, and this one library called libwbclient, and I'm not sure what that is. Also, it's Xubuntu.
[15:35] <Xerofyte> I just Installed KDE SC 4.11 on my Ubunu 12.04 LTS. And when I rebooted my machine. There was no KDE on my Login Screen?
[15:35] <TiZ> Xerofyte: You have to select the KDE session from your login screen. There is a button that will allow you to choose your session.
[15:36] <TiZ> Oh wait. Are you saying that KDE's not even in the session menu?
[15:36] <Xerofyte> TiZ: Yes Brother That is what i am Saying
[15:36] <dumfuq> TiZ, Did something go wrong with the kernel you had before?
[15:36] <apparatchik> Rory, it showed this now:   paste.ubuntu.com/6180040
[15:37] <dumfuq> TiZ, There's usually no good reason to upgrade the kernel other than graphics issues.
[15:37] <apparatchik> Rory, does it mean anything is shredded now? should I say no?
[15:37] <TiZ> dumfuq: I'm not talking about a kernel upgrade so much as a kernel update. The kind you get from regular old sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade.
[15:38] <Rory> apparatchik: dd: writing `/dev/sda3': Input/output error
[15:38] <dumfuq> TiZ, Well try upgrading or downgrading the kernel maybe?
[15:38] <Rory> apparatchik: That actually means it's done
[15:38] <Rory> apparatchik: It reached the end of the drive that's why. Assuming that partition is exactly 60GiB, it's worked, as shown by: 59999997952 bytes (60 GB) copied
[15:39] <dumfuq> TiZ, you using the LTS?
[15:39] <apparatchik> Rory; great, then I go about the same way with the next partition..yes, it was 60GB
[15:39] <Rory> apparatchik: Also you're being asked a question because you hit Tab twice. It's nothing to do with dd
[15:39] <apparatchik> Rory, so I say no :)
[15:39] <apparatchik> done
[15:40] <TiZ> dumfuq: No, I'm on 13.04. Which contradicts my whole spiel about being on a production machine, I know, but at least I'm not crazy enough to use Arch.
[15:40] <dumfuq> TiZ, Here's a crazy idea. Upgrade to 13.10. Its very stable on my laptop here.
[15:41] <TiZ> dumfuq: Whoa, that is crazy. I suppose it's not *that* crazy since release is basically right around the corner, though. Are we in feature freeze now?
[15:42] <gst`-> Hi, I'm using 13.04 on a Lenovo X230 and starting from last week somehow my audio fails randomly after some time of playback (a parallel Installation of Win 7 does not show the same issue).
[15:42] <dumfuq> TiZ, I dunno, but there really isn't much else gonna be put into it at this stage, so its very save to at least try it out IMO.
[15:42] <Xerofyte> I just Installed KDE SC 4.11 on my Ubunu 12.04 LTS. And when I rebooted my machine. There was no KDE Plasma Workspace in the Sessions on my Login Screen?
[15:43] <gst`-> (I already tried using the mainline kernels which does not help the problem)
[15:43] <TiZ> dumfuq: Yeah, that's not a bad idea.
[15:44] <TiZ> With guidance from someone from #xubuntu, I used the guest session to test, and then deleted ~/.Xauthority and ~/.ICEauthority to get back in. I apologize for copping the hardcore attitude, but I really needed ideas bouncing off of me. Thanks for the assistance.
[15:46] <_ohm> How do I view current IPTables rules? iptables -L doesn't give me any rules that I have added
[15:46] <Rory> _ohm: It is iptables -L to list rules, how did you add them?
[15:47] <_ohm> Rory, sudo iptables -t nat -A PREROUTING -tcp --dport 80 -j REDIRECT --to-ports 3000
[15:47] <_ohm> that was the command I used, however when I do iptables -L I get nothing
[15:47] <Rory> _ohm: try this: iptables-save > /tmp/iptables
[15:47] <Rory> _ohm: Then edit the /tmp/iptables file
[15:47] <Rory> _ohm: then do sudo iptables-restore < /tmp/iptables
[15:48] <Rory> _ohm: That's how I always do it
[15:48] <irssi-mike> gst`-: it cuts out during a run of the OS?
[15:48] <gst`-> yes
[15:48] <_ohm> Rory, and just add my rules to the file?
[15:48] <gst`-> quite randomly
[15:48] <Rory> _ohm: Yeah, look at how the other rules are formatted
[15:48] <Rory> _ohm: I'm sure you can work out how to put your rules
[15:49] <Rory> !ufw | _ohm also this might be of interest
[15:49] <gst`-> i tried killing pulse audio and doing a force reload of alsa
[15:49] <gst`-> doesnt help
[15:50] <gst`-> it's gone until i restart the machine
[15:50] <Marlenee> `openmpi` not found in ubnutu
[15:50] <irssi-mike> gst`-: did u have 12.04 installed previously as a sort of comparison to the issue?
[15:50] <_ohm> Rory, got it, thanks a lot
[15:50] <gst`-> yep it worked fine (but that was ages ago). and it worked fine with 13.04 up until probably a week ago
[15:51] <irssi-mike> gst`-: did you loose power suddenly
[15:52] <gst`-> no, the laptop is on the ac
[15:53] <irssi-mike> gst`-: when it cuts again see if gnome-alsamixer shows muted
[15:53] <gst`-> is the console tool fine too?
[15:54] <irssi-mike> gst`-: maybe but try them both
[15:54] <gst`-> since alsamixer shows nothing muted
[15:54] <apparatchik> Rory, the 40GB partition takes not shorter than 60gb, yet the process is not dependent on how much of the space is free, right?
[15:55] <Rory> apparatchik: Correct
[15:55] <gst`-> actually it seems i cant run gnome-alsamixer once it happened
[15:55] <gst`-> alsamixer works fine
[15:55] <Rory> apparatchik: The output from dd will tell you the actual speed in bytes per second
[15:57] <acidChrist> Rory: I have done it and it moved from source to dest the right directories. But how to tell sync process to synchronise only the files without the excluded. I mean the process which sync them automatically
[15:57] <acidChrist> ?
[15:57] <Rory> acidChrist: What is performing the synchronisation?
[15:57] <acidChrist> ?
[15:59] <Baze> Hi! I installed LAMP, after that I installed phpMyAdmin and it doesn't work,it's not connected to apache. How can I fix it
[15:59] <Rory> acidChrist: you ask "how to tell sync process" what is sync process?
[15:59] <Rory> Baze: How did you install LAMP? How did you install PHPmyadmin? What ubuntu version are you using? Did you follow a guide? Are you getting an error?
[16:00] <vicente_> anyone else using lxle ?
[16:00] <Xerofyte>  I just Installed KDE SC 4.11 on my Ubuntu 12.04 LTS. And when I rebooted my machine. There was no KDE Plasma Workspace in the Sessions on my Login Screen
[16:02] <Baze> I installed LAMP with tasksel and PHPmyadmin trough terminal. I have Xubuntu 13.04, and I only followed guide for tasksel installation.
[16:02] <Rory> Baze: Through terminal? How?
[16:02] <Rory> Baze: What did you run to install phpmyadmin?
[16:02] <apparatchik> Rory, 40gb space took longer than 60gb, still running..is that plausible?
[16:02] <Baze> I got 404 error for http://localhost/phpmyadmin
[16:02] <Rory> apparatchik: yes it's plausible
[16:03] <Baze> just #sudo apt-get install phpmyadmin
[16:03] <Rory> Baze: did you put "Include /etc/phpmyadmin/apache.conf" into your apache config?
[16:03] <Pici> Baze: please make sure that you have a symlink to /etc/phpmyadmin/apache.conf in /etc/apache2/conf.d/
[16:03] <Baze> i haven't done thate
[16:03] <Rory> Baze: Pici's way is better
[16:04] <gst`-> Oct  1 17:54:18 unicorn kernel: [ 4335.120110] gnome-alsamixer[10360]: segfault at 16 ip 00007fa6828277b5 sp 00007fff44730178 error 4 in libglib-2.0.so.0.3600.0[7fa6827ec000+f9000]  <-- syslog event when launching gnome-alsamixer
[16:04] <hramrach> how do I generate locales on Ubuntu?
[16:04] <MonkeyDust> !locales
[16:04] <Baze> Pici's way?
[16:04] <MonkeyDust> +
[16:06] <Rory> Baze: sudo ln -s /etc/phpmyadmin/apache.conf /etc/apache2/conf.d/phpmyadmin.conf
[16:07] <apparatchik> Rory, all right :), thank you!
[16:07] <apparatchik> Rory, does "no space left" mean anything significant:  paste.ubuntu.com/6180146
[16:07] <apparatchik> ?
[16:07] <apparatchik> this came when it was just completed
[16:07] <oo_miguel> How can I check if a hard disk is fault and needs to get exchanged?
[16:07] <gst`-> i'll give reinstalling alsa and pulseaudio a try brb
[16:08] <Rory> !smart | oo_miguel
[16:08] <apparatchik> Rory, I mean, anything that should prevent me from continuing with other partitions?
[16:08] <apparatchik> or anything that hindered the process?
[16:08] <Baze> Ok, that worked
[16:08] <Rory> apparatchik: it will only write to the partition you specify, the others will be fine
[16:09] <irssi-mike> is there any benefit to running multiple swap files on one disk?
[16:09] <Baze> What is the difference of including PHPmyadmin into apache2.conf?
[16:10] <Rory> Baze: Functionally, none
[16:10] <Rory> irssi-mike: no
[16:12] <Baze> What I actually done?? What "ln" and "-s" do?
[16:13] <irssi-mike> symbolic link
[16:13] <Baze> Ok, I googled it. Thans for the help :)
[16:14] <lenzeor> Hey guys! Is it safe to upgrade to 13.10 yet?
[16:15] <Rory> !13.10 | lenzeor Not til it's released
[16:16] <lenzeor> Am I going to brick my system if it fails or can I revert back, Rory?
[16:16] <vicente_> its difficult to say
[16:17] <Rory> lenzeor: Don't upgrade if you care about your system
[16:17] <Rory> lenzeor: Expect it to break, and then you can't be disappointed
[16:17] <vicente_> if you were able to boot into the recovery option I would say that bricking your pc isnt likely. Just be careful when you partition your HDD
[16:17] <wylde> lenzeor: and have current backups ;)
[16:17] <lenzeor> ah damn
[16:18] <lenzeor> okok, thanks Rory and Wylde
[16:18] <lenzeor> I'll have to wait then
[16:21] <gordonjcp> TiZ: glad you got it sorted, I had to head home or else stay at work all night ;-)
[16:21] <hramrach> hmm, you need a language-pack to get locales
[16:22] <gordonjcp> TiZ: deleting .Xauthority sounds like you may be attempting to use something graphical as root
[16:22] <hramrach> and it generates all the useless variants /o\
[16:22] <oo_miguel> the short offline smarttest told me: read failiure , what now?
[16:22] <hramrach> oh well, the Ubuntu way
[16:22] <hramrach> oo_miguel: trash the disk
[16:23] <oo_miguel> :(
[16:24] <belljar> Rory, I restarted with live cd, this was the command to start with, right: sudo dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sda3 bs=4k conv=notrunc ?
[16:24] <oo_miguel> what does Remaining: 90% mean?
[16:24] <oo_miguel> in the smart selftest log
[16:24] <hramrach> oo_miguel: that it failed at teh very start
[16:25] <oo_miguel> ah ok
[16:25] <oo_miguel> and this is an definitive hardware error disqulifying the disk from any use right?
[16:25] <Rory> belljar: Are you apparatchik?
[16:25] <hramrach> very likely
[16:26] <Rory> belljar: Yes, if /dev/sda3 is actually the one you want
[16:26] <belljar> Rory, yes, I am, sorry. I just changed it, didn't notice that it was revoked
[16:26] <hramrach> oo_miguel: if it's new you could like rma it but that's about it
[16:26] <Rory> I have to leave now apparatchik it's home-time
[16:26] <hramrach> if the disk can't even read itself there is not much left to do
[16:27] <apparatchik> Rory, thank you so much! I think I can get to destination from here :))
[16:27] <gst`-> irssi-mike, okay still the same :/
[16:27] <oo_miguel> hramrach: thanx
[16:27] <newbee> hello folks. I need some help. I did install ubuntu on top of Windows 8 (on a samsung series 5 ultrabook). But now there is no option to boot Windows 8 from grub!
[16:27] <apparatchik> Rory, enjoy the rest of your day!
[16:27] <newbee> please help me!
[16:27] <Rory> !grub | newbee
[16:28] <newbee> ubottu: no, my problem is, that I do have grub but it does not allow me to boot windows 8 anyomore. So the other way round :-(
[16:29] <gst`-> newbee there is a tool called "Boot repair" that might work
[16:29] <gst`-> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[16:33] <newbee> gst`-:  do I risk to not to be able to boot ubuntu anymore?
[16:33] <gst`-> you can always restore grub with a live cd
[16:34] <newbee> gst`-:  ok, thx
[16:34] <gst`-> (to my knowledge)
[16:34] <gst`-> btw
[16:34] <Ari-Yang> !dist-upgrade
[16:35] <gst`-> is your windows 8 a uefi installation?
[16:36] <lesshaste> how can I make a bootable usb from an iso?
[16:36] <lesshaste> usb-creator-gtk crashes for me
[16:36] <tilerendering> hi - I have a ubuntu installation (12.04 server LTS) and I dont have any graphical window manager running. can I nevertheless run a vmware player on it, with windows 7 in the vm ?
[16:36] <lesshaste> so is there anything else?
[16:36] <apparatchik> Rory, are you still there?
[16:37] <wylde> lesshaste: http://www.pendrivelinux.com/ has a number of tools
[16:38] <downbeam_> Any one here ever play champions of regnum????
[16:39] <downbeam_> Any one here ever play champions of regnum????
[16:39] <apparatchik> I just read that zeroing drive by using dd to erase files doesnt make them permanently irrecoverable, if special techniques are used. how special are these?
[16:39] <gordonjcp> apparatchik: so special they only exist in the minds of scifi authors
[16:39] <lesshaste> wylde, do you know if any of them can be installed with apt-get?
[16:39] <apparatchik> gordonjcp: wikipedia says that it is possible
[16:39] <downbeam_> Any one here ever play champions of regnum????
[16:39] <gordonjcp> apparatchik: wikipedia says a lot of things
[16:40] <gordonjcp> apparatchik: this is more a discussion for #ubuntu-offtopic
[16:40] <Ari-Yang> is it possible to filter out a package when using apt-get dist-upgrade ?
[16:40] <newbee> trying it. Wish me luck!
[16:40] <apparatchik> gordonjcp: I just used dd with the assistance of Rory, that's why I wondered when I was reading about dd, and saw this
[16:40] <gordonjcp> apparatchik: yeah
[16:41] <wylde> apparatchik: if you're not satisfied with zero'ing, you could always sandwich the drive between 2 strong magnets overnight ;) heh
[16:41] <gordonjcp> apparatchik: in theory with drives that are more than about 30 years old you could *possibly* look at funny ripples in the analogue data read back from the disk
[16:41] <gordonjcp> apparatchik: even then it wasn't really possible
[16:41] <apparatchik> gordonjcp: so it is not even sth for nsa?
[16:41] <gordonjcp> apparatchik: nope
[16:41] <apparatchik> gordonjcp: all right
[16:41] <gordonjcp> apparatchik: the idea is that if a bit is slightly higher than the average read level, it might have been a 1 before
[16:42] <gordonjcp> apparatchik: now they record signals on disk with multiple levels
[16:42] <apparatchik> gordonjcp: I don't know how new/old my disc is, though. it is not a ssd anyway.
[16:42] <apparatchik> disk*
[16:43] <apparatchik> gordonjcp: so there's no need to do another "shred" over it?
[16:44] <schnitzl> if i start a process with rc.local owner is root, right? so i dotn need in the rc.local "sudo <COMMAND>"
[16:45] <apparatchik> gordonjcp, thank you so much for your hints, have to leave now!
[16:45] <wylde> schnitzl: yes
[16:45] <schnitzl> wylde, thanks :)
[16:46] <oo_miguel> is there some tool to benchmark cd-drives, to decide which is in a better condition?
[16:47] <killall> maybe  hdparm
[16:47] <ibekks> oo_miguel: that will not tell you anything about the condition the drive is in
[16:48] <oo_miguel> ibekks: any suggestions?
[16:49] <ibekks> oo_miguel: i dont think there is software to do so
[16:49]  * killall maybe hdparm, to test speed of the disk
[16:49] <oo_miguel> ok thanks guys
[16:50] <StarFlower> you could try using disk utility
[16:50] <StarFlower> but im not sure if it works with cd drives
[16:53] <cuidas> Hi everybody! I need some help @ubuntu+uefi: i think i installed everything the right way, efimgr -v show the right stuff, but i cant boot into grub. how can i test if  my uefi "sees" the EFI partition?
[16:54] <lupo> ciao
[16:55] <lupo> !list
[16:56] <StarFlower> cuidas, im not sure but you could try reading though https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI
[16:57] <lenzeor> How do I upgrade from gnome 3.8 to 3.10?
[16:59] <cuidas> StarFlower: thx found this page already but didnt help me... :(
[16:59] <listric> Hi Is there a way to remove hard drive encryption? Running Ubuntu 12.10?
[17:00] <StarFlower> did you read through the section titled "Identifying if an Ubuntu has been installed in EFI mode"
[17:00] <StarFlower> listric, http://askubuntu.com/questions/245112/can-i-disable-full-disk-encryption
[17:01] <xangua> good morning here, can you tell me how can i remove a printer I no longer have but is still listed in system configuration¿ since i no longer have the printer when i select the remove option it shows a cups error: client-error-not-found
[17:01] <xangua> http://i.imgur.com/VBq33dC.png
[17:01] <cuidas> StarFlower: yes, and i think everything is ok. i'm starting to think its not an ubuntu problem.
[17:02] <schnitzl> how can I mv a file to the folder in which i am at the moment "mv /home/user/test.file XXX"
[17:02] <schnitzl> i cont want to type the path in which I am right now
[17:02] <xangua> the printer was installed with hplip by the way
[17:02] <StarFlower> xangua, you can run sudo lpadmin -x "nameofprinter"
[17:02] <up201303544> oi
[17:02] <up201303544> hi
[17:03] <up201303544> entao mon fiss
[17:03] <xangua> !pt | up201303544
[17:04] <StarFlower> you would have to run pwd to see which directory your in at the moment then run mv file /"directory_your_in"
[17:04] <xangua> StarFlower: thanks! very apreciated
[17:04] <StarFlower> be sure to include the name of the file after the directory your moving to
[17:05] <listric> StarFlower: Looks like easiest solution will be a reload. That's fine, this a fresh new install. Will not select "Encryption"  on new reinstall. Also will I have any issues with Gparted to wipe the harddrive? Thanks much.
[17:06] <StarFlower> you shouldnt if you format the drive
[17:06] <listric> cool thx
[17:09] <cuidas> just to share it her: nice thread that seems to solve my problems http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2147295
[17:10] <StarFlower> Thats wonderful, thanks for sharing cuidas
[17:14] <schnitzl> in a bash script mv /file/*.txt /home/user/ does not work if files have "spaces" ....how to make it work for ALL files, even those files with " "
[17:14] <Pici> schnitzl: Best to ask in #bash and take a look at their great urls in their channel's topic.
[17:15] <schnitzl> Pici, thanky ou.
[17:19] <salamis-morisset> hi all
[17:19] <Joschii> hi
[17:20] <salamis-morisset> can you help me with the size of the partitions?
[17:20] <salamis-morisset> i have 1 SSD with 250 Gb
[17:20] <salamis-morisset> i want to separate /home partition
[17:22] <yoloooooo> YOLOO i so i herd windows is better then linux
[17:23] <ikonia> the use windows,
[17:23] <pmenon_> yoloooooo: lol
[17:23] <yoloooooo> shit no no one sbiting
[17:23] <yoloooooo> ok i was just explain irc
[17:23] <yoloooooo> haha
[17:23] <yoloooooo> kisses
[17:23] <ikonia> yoloooooo: tone down the language and grow up please
[17:23] <FloodBot1> yoloooooo: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:23] <ikonia> yoloooooo: this channel is for ubuntu support discussion, if you don't need ubuntu support, please keep quiet
[17:24] <yoloooooo> Ok ok i forgive you. Please tell me how i can run an lxc container without sudo privelages
[17:24] <yoloooooo> *priveleges
[17:27] <vamadir> how to update worpress in ubuntu?? worpress was installed by apt.
[17:28] <chaotic_good> 331 Please specify the password.
[17:28] <chaotic_good> Password:
[17:28] <chaotic_good> 421 Service not available, remote server has closed connection
[17:28] <chaotic_good> Login failed.
[17:28] <chaotic_good> No control connection for command: Success
[17:28] <FloodBot1> chaotic_good: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:28] <salamis-morisset> ReiserFS is better than ext4??
[17:28] <ikonia> vamadir: you get updates to the packages
[17:28] <chaotic_good> anyone seen this vsftpd error?
[17:30] <vamadir>  <ikonia> worpress, show like is last ver, but its 3.0.5. Last ver is 3.6.1 But ubuntu have no wordpress repo.
[17:30] <ikonia> vamadir: ubuntu has not updated the package
[17:30] <vamadir>  <ikonia> worpress installed from def repo
[17:32] <ikonia> vamadir: repeating that doesn't change what I said
 of couse i did update and upgrade
[17:36] <ikonia> vamadir: again that doesn't change anything that I've said
[17:37] <dougiel> how do you get ls to print out on file name per line instead of listing them accross the screen?
[17:38] <MonkeyDust> dougiel  ls -1   (that's a one)
[17:39] <linuxearth> i have just downloaded the ubuntu lts 12.04 and planing to install in the harddisk (whole space) for which i have no idea of partitions, how much should i make /home, /swap ,/boot and /root or / please elaborate. my ram is 2 GB and harddisk space is 238 GB (or 250, they say).
[17:41] <cjwelborn> something odd happened to me, its kindof a long story but i'll try to keep it short. I'd like to know why it happened.
[17:41] <linuxearth> i have just downloaded the ubuntu lts 12.04 and planing to install in the harddisk (whole space) for which i have no idea of partitions, how much should i make /home, /swap ,/boot and /root or / please elaborate. my ram is 2 GB and harddisk space is 238 GB (or 250, they say).
[17:41] <Suarte4> Hello, I have Lubuntu 13.04 here. For some reason I have no idea (have done nothing other than updates),   I cannot login anymore into my main user account. I can still log into the others including guest and everything works fine. So here  is what I tried. Ctrl+Alt+F1 logged in main account via terminal.  OK it works.  Then startlubuntu but I get the following error message. cp: impossible to create the standard file <<//.
[17:42] <cuidas> vamadir: apt-cache show wordpress -> Version: 3.5.1+dfsg-2 -> update && upgrade should work
[17:43] <cjwelborn> Latest installer removed all partitions from my drive, I re-partitioned and formatted. Install went okay, I copied some /home files from my backup USB but I was missing some .hidden files. I was going to manually re-create the two missing files (and fill in the missing info). I 'touch'ed a missing file, opened it in Kate and ALL of the info from my previous install was already there. This file DID NOT exist on the hard drive, i
[17:43] <cjwelborn> created it with 'touch'. Somehow ALL of the information that was in my last install appeared. How could this happen?
[17:43] <xmetal> wow . my download speed is dropping like a rock
[17:44] <gordonjcp> cjwelborn: you must have copied it across
[17:44] <gordonjcp> cjwelborn: alternatively, you have not opened what you thought you opened
[17:44] <gordonjcp> cjwelborn: what was the missing file anyway?
[17:44] <cjwelborn> ls /myproject -> No .project or .pydevproject. touch .project , kate .project -> All missing info there.
[17:45] <linuxearth> can one let me know please?>
[17:45] <gordonjcp> !anyone | linuxearth
[17:45] <cjwelborn> i should say ls -a, and none of the files were there. but 'touch .project' filled in all the missing info.
[17:45] <newhite> what is the best way to setup a remote desktop application for ubuntu
[17:45] <linuxearth> okay
[17:45] <Suarte4> I also tried creating that lxterminal.conf file with touch. I still get cannot open display error
[17:46] <linuxearth> i have just downloaded the ubuntu lts 12.04 and planing to install in the harddisk (whole space) for which i have no idea of partitions, how much should i make /home, /swap ,/boot and /root or / please elaborate. my ram is 2 GB and harddisk space is 238 GB (or 250, they say).
[17:46] <gordonjcp> !partition | linuxearth
[17:46] <gordonjcp> linuxearth: are you wiping everything on the disk, and doing a clean install?
[17:46] <newhite> what remote desktop software would you recommend?
[17:47] <gordonjcp> newhite: what exactly are you trying to do?
[17:47] <rootpt> Hello.
[17:47] <linuxearth> yes i am wiping everything
[17:47] <newhite> allow someone to control my desktop
[17:47] <gordonjcp> linuxearth: just let it do the defaults
[17:47] <newhite> and view my desktop
[17:47] <linuxearth> gordonjcp: yes
[17:47] <StarFlower> linuxearth, its probably ok to let ubuntu decide on its own
[17:47] <gordonjcp> linuxearth: yeah
[17:47] <linuxearth> ok
[17:47] <gordonjcp> just let it do its own thing
[17:47] <linuxearth> it would take by itself?
[17:47] <gordonjcp> linuxearth: you probably want to use LVM if you get the choice
[17:48] <gordonjcp> linuxearth: it'll make a fairly intelligent guess
[17:48] <linuxearth> what's LVM?
[17:48] <gordonjcp> Logical Volume Manager
[17:48] <linuxearth> gordonjcp: i am new so installation i don't now and the terms too
[17:48] <gordonjcp> linuxearth: oh, just let it do everything automatically
[17:48] <gordonjcp> linuxearth: you can always reinstall tomorrow ;-)
[17:48] <linuxearth> ok lvm also auto?
[17:49] <linuxearth> but i don't have always the time for re installation
[17:49] <newhite> gordonjcp: I want to share my desktop with someone from IT.  so they can trouble shoot remotely
[17:49] <Suarte4> no ideas to solve my issue?
[17:49] <linuxearth> so lvm is useful?
[17:49] <gordonjcp> newhite: no idea, VNC possibly
[17:49] <xmetal> hmm
[17:49] <LucidGuy> modified /etc/exports (NFS) .. want changes to take affect without dropping existing connected nfs clients.  exportfs -r doesnt seem to do the trick, anyone know the outcome of exportfs -f ?
[17:50] <gordonjcp> linuxearth: yes, it makes it relatively easy to enlarge partitions and add news disks in and stuff
[17:50] <newhite> gordonjcp,
[17:50] <gordonjcp> linuxearth: don't worry about it for now
[17:50] <xmetal> the packing manager will not let me install Octave in Mint 14
[17:50] <newhite> gordonjcp, I was looking forward to something straight forward.
[17:50] <newhite> gordonjcp, just install and go
[17:50] <linuxearth> gordonjcp: ok so what i do? should i install lvm or not?
[17:50] <dachi> hello, can anyone help me with permissions please? ls -l /var/mail/vhosts/dachi.im is drwx--S--- 5 vmail vmail 4096 Sep 28 22:49 administrator drwx--S--- 5 vmail vmail 4096 Sep 30 21:35 webmaster and drwx--S--- 5 vmail vmail 4096 Oct  1 21:42 webmaster without administrator. How to add administrator permission to dachi.co too?
[17:51] <pagios> hi
[17:51] <pagios> http://pastebin.com/fZG335BK
[17:51] <pagios> can someone advise what might be the problem?
[17:51] <linuxearth> gordonjcp: or i go with default installation as u earlier suggested
[17:51] <gordonjcp> linuxearth: shouldn't make a difference at this stage, leave it for now though if you're unsure
[17:51] <gordonjcp> !vnc | linuxearth
[17:51] <xmetal> oh darn it there was a video program i had in Mint 15 .. forgot the name now
[17:51] <linuxearth> gordonjcp: but  u can let me know dude or explain if it really helpful i would go for it dude!
[17:52] <xmetal> like a timeline type app for "editing and making" videos
[17:52] <linuxearth> gordonjcp: i didn't ask for remote help, lol
[17:52] <deluxe247> I have been searching all day and can not find an answer. What is a good way to do parallel imports into mysql. Currently I have it going through each file 1 by 1 for 409 databases;
[17:52] <linuxearth> gordonjcp: but  u can let me know dude or explain if it really helpful i would go for it dude!
[17:52] <Suarte4> gordonjcp: you seem knowledgeable... dont want to give it a shot? i'll wait if you want....
[17:54] <linuxearth> gordonjcp: but  u can let me know dude or explain if it really helpful i would go for it dude!
[17:54] <gordonjcp> linuxearth: at this stage it probably doesn't make a difference
[17:54] <linuxearth> ok
[17:54] <gordonjcp> Suarte4: hm?
[17:54] <linuxearth> then i should go for default?
[17:54] <gordonjcp> linuxearth: leave it off for now and go for default
[17:54] <linuxearth> ok thanks man thanks gordonjcp:
[17:54] <Suarte4> Hello, I have Lubuntu 13.04 here. For some reason I have no idea (have done nothing other than updates),   I cannot login anymore into my main user account. I can still log into the others including guest and everything works fine. So here  is what I tried. Ctrl+Alt+F1 logged in main account via terminal.  OK it works.  Then startlubuntu but I get the following error message. cp: impossible to create the standard file <<//.
[17:57] <MonkeyDust> Suarte4  make sure no partition is 100% full, type      df-h     to find out, also make sure you have no obsolete kernels
[17:59] <MonkeyDust> Suarte4  df -h, even
[17:59] <mmazing> so i have a "server" on amazon that i accidentally just uninstalled openSSH on, i have the boot volume mounted to another instance, how would i go about installing openssh on that volume so that when i boot it up i can connect?
[18:02] <Suarte4> MonkeyDust: Thank you. No partition is full. OK. Kernel is 3.8.0-31-generic
[18:02] <damel> hey all...is there any way to get blu-rays to work ?
[18:03] <MonkeyDust> !blueray
[18:04] <damel> thanks...Ill check them out...damn I hate Blu-rays...and I f---in pay for them !!
[18:05] <Suarte4> MonkeyDust: any other idea?
[18:06] <MonkeyDust> Suarte4  no, that caused it when i had the same issue
[18:06] <zykotick9> Suarte4: in your home directory, "ls -al" is anything owned by root?
[18:08] <Suarte4> zykotick9: i now am in guest. not sure how to proceed
[18:09] <Asad3ainJalout> clear
[18:12] <tbjr> I just upgraded from ubuntu 11.10  to 13.04.  I know some of the functionality of compiz was lost due to the introduction of Unity, however I did have the screencapture working under 11.10 and I don't remember how.  Any suggestions on how to get it working in 13.04?
[18:12] <jdoles> Why do I get X Error: BadWindow (invalid Window parameter) 3?
[18:13] <jdoles> I have written plenty of X applications myself, and my apps never did that.
[18:13] <Zupoman> hey, good morning people
[18:13] <Zupoman> I am fairly new to ubuntu, or actually, xubuntu
[18:13] <Zupoman> and I usually prefer dark themes, so I switched to a dark one
[18:13] <Zupoman> and this is the result:
[18:13] <Zupoman> http://i.imgur.com/77SXjWU.png
[18:14] <Zupoman> text is completely invisible in some places
[18:14] <Zupoman> just because default text color is mixed with custom background
[18:16] <Suarte4> zykotick9: if yes (some are owned by root), what should i do?
[18:18] <Suarte4> STILL UNSOLVED: Lubuntu 13.04 here. For some reason I have no idea (have done nothing other than updates),   I cannot login anymore into my main user account. I can still log into the others including guest and everything works fine. So here  is what I tried. Ctrl+Alt+F1 logged in main account via terminal.  OK it works.  Then startlubuntu but I get the following error message. cp: impossible to create the standard file <</
[18:18] <Biomechd> hey guys, what can you gather from this? http://pastebin.com/y0W3ZKFw
[18:20] <karab44> I thought Adobe Premiere was hard but Pitivi is Extremely hardcore
[18:20] <karab44> How to for sake clone the clip there?
[18:20] <tage_> tageborg
[18:20] <tageborg> nick tage
[18:21] <karab44> I have this cursed timeline and cut clip and I can not do anything with it except placing in time.
[18:21] <karab44> How to copy that splice?
[18:21] <bazhang> karab44, try #pitivi
[18:22] <karab44> bazhang: you're my man! :)
[18:24] <angel96> hi .. I have a problem, now I have stolen pc, do you know if there is a way to succeed him find via the internet? I need some specific data?Please let me know if there is some way .. thank you very much
[18:24] <bekks> angel96: It is lost.
[18:24] <angel96> noo
[18:25] <deluxe247> anyone can point me in the write direction of importing multiple databases at once into mysql, rds specifically, I need to import 409 databases and i have it scripted but it runs one import at a time. I need to optimize this and cut the server down time as much as possible
[18:25] <shambat> I need to restart my network interface, but I'm connected via SSH, what is a command I can use to stop the service and then restart it safely? I was thinking: nohup service networking stop && service networking start
[18:28] <Xabster> i tried 13.10 in a VM and tried to get Steam but i failed miserably and my package system broke. It can up the day after and i think it was an error with cpp-4.8 in the repos, but anyway: is it normally easy to install and has anyone installed it flawlessly in the 13.10 beta?
[18:28] <StarFlower> unfortunately this channel doesnt support 13.10 beta
[18:28] <StarFlower> but someone may still know
[18:29] <paxcoder> i can't install bigbluebutton because its dependency (bbb-web) cannot be installed. Can anyone tell me why?
[18:29] <Xabster> oh, hmm
[18:29] <DJones> !13.10 | Xabster This is the main support channel for development versions,
[18:30] <StarFlower> what are the biggest changes in 13.10
[18:30] <paxcoder> I'm running 13.04
[18:30] <StarFlower> me too paxcoder
[18:32] <Biomechd> anyone? nobody knows what this is? http://pastebin.com/y0W3ZKFw
[18:32] <DJones> StarFlower: #ubuntu+1 will be the best place to ask (as they're the ones using the development version)
[18:32] <StarFlower> DJones, ok
[18:33] <vusie> hello guys how can i use ussd while using a 3G usb modem in ubuntu ?
[18:36] <schnitzl> rc.local : if i kill a process i started in rc.local it restarts the process automatically after some time (NO reboot!!) ??!
[18:37] <bekks> schnitzl: No.
[18:37] <schnitzl> i bet it does.
[18:37] <bekks> schnitzl: I know it doesnt.
[18:37] <schnitzl> :D
[18:37] <schnitzl> i believe you. it would be weird.
[18:37] <bekks> Just start the process again, no need to reboot.
[18:37] <schnitzl> wow. something odd is going on with my box.
[18:38] <schnitzl> bekks,  thanks
[18:38] <agustin_> alguien en español
[18:38] <bekks> !es | agustin_
[18:39] <vusie> hello guys how can i use ussd while using a 3G usb modem in ubuntu ?
[18:50] <Roy_Ubuntu_13-04> i got some ecryptfs questions
[18:51] <cheater__> hi guys. i have downloaded a kernel for ubuntu and now i need the source for it. could someone help me figure this out? the kernel is here: http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v3.11.2-saucy/ and there are some patches in there but there is no source. how do i get the source? i am trying to compile some kernel modules.
[18:53] <Roy_Ubuntu_13-04> how can i move the ecryptfs('s) ~/.Private folder to a usb device to work from there. I was thinking of a symbolic link , ln -s , or should it be ln -P , if ln would work should i use -s or -P
[18:54] <baordog_> Is there a seperate channel for ubuntu dev?
[18:54] <PatrickDickey> cheater__: try sudo apt-get install linux-source
[18:54] <MonkeyDust> baordog_  #ubuntu-app-devel
[18:54] <baordog_> I meant kernal dev :D
[18:54] <cheater__> PatrickDickey: i would love to but this kernel is from saucy and i'm on raring. this kernel is not in the repositories, i had to download it by hand.
[18:54] <MonkeyDust> baordog_  #ubuntu-kernel
[18:55] <baordog_> Gracias
[18:55] <PatrickDickey> baordog_: If ubuntu-kernel isn't what you want, then I'd suggest going to kernel.org and seeing what IRC channels they use.
[18:55] <cheater__> i didn't know of #ubuntu-kernel
[18:56] <MonkeyDust> cheater__  type /msg alis list #ubuntu*
[18:56] <cheater__> i think #ubuntu-kernel is the only one i'll need!
[18:57] <PatrickDickey> cheater__: /www.google.com/search?q=source+code+for+ubuntu+kernel+saucy might get you what you need also. Most of the links point to launchpad, so that's probably where you'll be able to download the source.
[18:58] <cheater__> PatrickDickey: i don't see anything there.
[18:58] <PatrickDickey> cheater__: In launchpad? or in the link I put up?
[18:59] <cheater__> in either, i do not see an associated source package.
[19:02] <PatrickDickey> Speaking of kernels. I did apt-get autoremove this past weekend, and it's stuck on updating grub. Any suggestions on how to get through this?
[19:02] <PatrickDickey> cheater__: Which kernel did you download? You said 3.11.2, but everything in launchpad is for 3.11.0-x.
[19:02] <Roy_Ubuntu_13-04> how can i move the  ~/.Private folder that ecryptfs uses to a usb device to work from there. I was thinking of a symbolic link , ln -s , or should it be ln -P , if ln would work should i use -s or -P
[19:03] <cheater__> PatrickDickey: look at the link i posted - that's 3.11.2 right there
[19:06] <Roy_Ubuntu_13-04> can someone give a life example of the difference from ln -s & ln -P ?
[19:07] <Roy_Ubuntu_13-04> like what situation would u want to use ln -P
[19:07] <bekks> Roy_Ubuntu_13-04: In the situation you dont want hard links anymore.
[19:08] <Roy_Ubuntu_13-04> what is a hard link about
[19:08] <PatrickDickey> cheater__: One thing I'm finding is this http://kernel.ubuntu.com/git?s=saucy You can probably pull the source down from there. Otherwise, I'm not sure. I would agree with MonkeyDust, when he said you might want to ask in either #ubuntu-kernel or in #ubuntu+1
[19:10] <PatrickDickey> Roy_Ubuntu_13-04: http://linuxgazette.net/105/pitcher.html gives you a pretty good explanation.
[19:10] <MonkeyDust> Roy_Ubuntu_13-04  from the man page: "-P, --physical make hard links directly to symbolic links"
[19:10] <Roy_Ubuntu_13-04> how can i move the  ~/.Private folder that ecryptfs uses to a usb device to work from there. I was thinking of a symbolic link , ln -s , or should it be ln -P , if ln would work should i use -s or -P
[19:11] <Xerofyte> any ideas how can i set a VPN
[19:11] <Roy_Ubuntu_13-04> which one would be smarter in what im about to try
[19:12] <TonnyNerd> I installed aufs-tools, but when I try to mount , it says "unknown filesystem type 'aufs'", It's a ubuntu 12.04 ami on Amazon EC2, anyone knows what can be wrong?
[19:12]  * sarsaeol is listening to Bambi by Tokyo Police Club from the album Champ [246 - Plays: 1] [Listen: [API HAS BEEN MOVED, PLEASE applewebdata://DD9C13D8-B61D-4C74-BCEA-A663F73FFF43/api.php FOR MORE INFORMATION]]
[19:12] <sarsaeol> oops
[19:12] <sarsaeol> sorry wrong channel!
[19:12] <StarFlower> Xerofyte, right click on the networking icon on the upper right of the screen, and click configure vpn
[19:13] <Xerofyte> StarFlower, Thanks
[19:13] <StarFlower> Xerofyte, your welcome
[19:14] <lduros> join #linux
[19:15] <PatrickDickey> lduros: you forgot the / ;-)
[19:15] <lduros> heh
[19:16] <linuxuz3r> hey guys
[19:16] <StarFlower> linuxuz3r, hi
[19:18] <linuxuz3r> hi
[19:19] <tbjr> I just upgraded from ubuntu 11.10  to 13.04.  I know some of the functionality of compiz was lost due to the introduction of Unity, however I did have the screencapture working under 11.10 and I don't remember how.  Any suggestions on how to get it working in 13.04?
[19:19] <StarFlower> tbjr, video or just image
[19:19] <ikonia> tbjr: how is it not working now ?
[19:19] <bekks> tbjr: How did you upgrade - directly?
[19:20] <tbjr> just image... it's dragging a bounding box thing with the windows super key and mouse drag
[19:21] <tbjr> I did not upgrade.. I did a fresh install and migrated /home
[19:21] <ikonia> tbjr: how is it not working
[19:21] <tbjr> @ikonia it's not available in the compiz manager now
[19:21] <ikonia> tbjr: is it installed on your system ?
[19:22] <tbjr> I think it's part of the compiz core  plugins?
[19:22] <ikonia> tbjr: is the package installed ?
[19:23] <tbjr> compiz is yes
[19:23] <ikonia> no, the screen capture tool
[19:23] <tbjr> apparently not.  How would I do that?
[19:24] <ikonia> tbjr: is it not a package in the package manager ?
[19:24] <StarFlower> you can open the software center and install shutter. if your looking for a good program
[19:24] <tbjr> I think it's part of the compiz core plugins or components
[19:24] <ikonia> tbjr: I think you'll need to check what provides it
[19:25] <tbjr> my wife loves the click and drag bounding box of compiz screencapture so that's why I'm trying to persist in this.
[19:25] <ikonia> I'm not saying drop it, I'm saying find what provides it
[19:26] <tbjr> sorry ikonia, I was responding to StarFlower
[19:26] <ikonia> tbjr: not a problem, my fault for not seeing
[19:27] <FloodBot1> !netsplit
[19:27] <tbjr> ok well, thanks for your help.  I'll try looking further into where it comes from.
[19:27] <Cool-Dev> freenode server problem
[19:28] <wasanzy> does this remove packages including their conf so that next time I reinstall the package, it becomes fresh?
[19:28] <wasanzy> apt-get --purge remove
[19:29] <StarFlower> wasanzy, we had a netsplit you'll have to repeat the question from the beginning
[19:29] <MonkeyDust> wasanzy  look in ~/.config for more files to delete
[19:29] <wasanzy> does this remove packages including their conf so that next time I reinstall the package, it becomes fresh? apt-get --purge remove
[19:30] <zykotick9> wasanzy: fyi you can save some typing using "apt-get purge foo" no need for the --purge remove these days
[19:30] <zykotick9> wasanzy: keep in mind, it WON'T touch config files in users home directories
[19:31] <wasanzy> oh ok
[19:31] <wilee-nilee> wasanzy, apt-get --purge "package" generally sholud
[19:31] <wlightning> Often my Instant Messenger (Empathy) stops notifying via the icon above, and if I miss the little bubble... I often never notice that someone has IM'd me.. is there any way to fix this or keep it from happening?
[19:31] <zykotick9> wilee-nilee: ahhh, either "apt-get purge foo" or "apt-get --purge remove foo" no mixing and matching ;)
[19:31] <michagogo> What's the opposite of `tail`?
[19:31] <wlightning> michagogo, `head`
[19:31] <ikonia> head
[19:31] <michagogo> oh
[19:31] <michagogo> that makes sense, actually
[19:32] <michagogo> :P
[19:32] <wlightning> =)
[19:32] <wlightning> wish my problem was that simple =)
[19:33] <StarFlower> you could try installing telepathy-indicator
[19:34] <StarFlower> its a bug in 13.04 https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/indicator-messages/+bug/1060469
[19:36] <StarFlower> wlightning, are you still there?
[19:36] <wlightning> StarFlower, yep
[19:37] <wlightning> StarFlower, will try it
[19:37] <StarFlower> wlightning, ok i just wanted to make sure you knew i was talking to you, forgot to preface my messages with your chatname
[19:37] <wlightning> StarFlower, thanks =) yeah, I diddn't notice them till I read up
[19:39] <wlightning> StarFlower, hmm... it works fine for the first few hours on my system... it's after that things start to fail
[19:39] <wlightning> StarFlower, happens with the music menu and my media player too
[19:40] <wlightning> StarFlower, that's less bugging though
[19:40] <wlightning> StarFlower, hmm "telepathy-indicator is already the newest version." is what I got
[19:41] <Rarrikins> Why is the "upgrade to 13.04" program starting up automatically again when it's already running from several days ago?
[19:41] <StarFlower> StarFlower, well its a bug there still working on , there are fixes released for some things but not all of them yet
[19:41] <StarFlower> oops lol
[19:41] <StarFlower> didnt mean to talk to myself
[19:42] <schackofatz> hi
[19:42] <schackofatz> does the ubuntu install CD include all the non-free drivers and firmware?
[19:42] <wlightning> StarFlower, got it =)
[19:43] <wlightning> StarFlower, cool... well I'll add myself to the affected by the bug... I can be patient =)
[19:43] <StarFlower> wlightning, yah not much you can do unless you can get into the code and find the problem
[19:44] <silvux> schackofatz i think that not but after you finish the installation you can install those drivers
[19:44] <robcsi> Hi. anyone having problems with U1 lately? I have it installed on two machines, one Windows and one XUbuntu, and it just seems not to sync correctly. I have Tomboy notes set up to sync into a share directory, and I change some notes, it (says) it uploads, but on the other machine it does not sync the contents...
[19:45] <wlightning> StarFlower, at some point maybe.. I don't really understand how those systems interact yet.
[19:46] <vicente__> what does the channel suggest to replace the spell/grammar check in Microsoft office Word? I have libreoffice but it never seems to catch all my mistakes, this is one reason I must keep windows installed
[19:47] <skinux> What is the current best method of installing Internet Explorer inside of Ubuntu?
[19:48] <vicente__> skinux: you may want to look into wine gecko
[19:48] <skinux> I followed a tutorial using wine and Ie8, but installer says it's not compatible with my architecture.
[19:49] <silvux> skinux try installing windows in virtual machine if you cant use wine
[19:49] <skinux> Umm, I want to install IE for testing purposes, so it needs to use IE's rendering engine.
[19:49] <alpha_one_x86> hello, how install AES for java?
[19:49] <wilee-nilee> vicente__, I use a plugin called grammerly, however I would ask this in ##windows
[19:50] <wlightning> skinux, https://github.com/xdissent/ievms
[19:50] <skinux> To install anything in VBox I'd have to manage to get my empty 20G partition merged with Ubuntu's 30G partition.
[19:50] <wlightning> skinux, oh. that won't work then.. all the IE versions take up 48GB
[19:50] <StarFlower> skinux, what happens when you run the internet explorer setup
[19:51] <wilee-nilee> vicente__, great for writing academic papers. http://www.grammarly.com/
[19:51] <skinux> It begans installing, but then errors that it's not compatible with my architecture. It does this for both 32-bit and 64-bit versions.
[19:51] <StarFlower> which version of ie?
[19:52] <StarFlower> everything after 8.0 doesnt work at all in wine
[19:53] <StarFlower> skinux, this is the latest version that works according to appdb.winehq.org
[19:53] <StarFlower> http://download.microsoft.com/download/C/C/0/CC0BD555-33DD-411E-936B-73AC6F95AE11/IE8-WindowsXP-x86-ENU.exe
[19:54] <wilee-nilee> skinux, In ubuntu and linux in general you do not merge partitions, but resize them.
[19:54] <stiwari> guys i wanna ssh to a particular pc(whose IP I know) on a remote network, so how do I do that?
[19:54] <StarFlower> skinux, even that doesnt work well
[19:54] <jmgk> Greetings wilee-nilee
[19:54] <wilee-nilee> hi
[19:54] <StarFlower> stiwari, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSH
[19:54] <wlightning> stiwari, ssh user@1.1.1.1
[19:55] <stiwari> wlightning, but the PC is on a network xx.xxx.com, and my account is on that machine only. i tried doing what you said, it didnt work...should I try the broadcast address then?
[19:56] <StarFlower> ping the address and get the ip
[19:56] <StarFlower> try again
[19:56] <Sambre> +r
[19:57] <stiwari> i tried getting ip using ifconfig
[19:57] <wlightning> stiwari, is it behind a NAT router?
[19:59] <stiwari> wlightning, not really sure. all i know is that my account is on  a machine, say xx. and the network name is say, yy.yy.com. so how do I access the machine? i have done remote logins using ssh before, but none on a particular machine.
[19:59] <wlightning> well what's the error you get when trying to ssh to it?
[19:59] <wlightning> stiwari, ^^
[20:01] <stiwari> well when i try to ssh I get nothing, and when I ping  the address it says request time out. maybe I am using the wrong address?>
[20:03] <wlightning> stiwari, well if you can't ping it.. it could be behind a NAT. especially if the address is a 10.x.x.x or 192.168.x.x
[20:03] <stiwari> wlightning, it is a 10.x.x.x kinda address
[20:03] <wlightning> stiwari, so.. whatever is doing the NAT will need to forward port 22 from the public IP to that 10.x.x.x IP
[20:04] <stiwari> i am pretty sure port forwarding is enabled by the sysadmin
[20:04] <wlightning> stiwari, so then you'd need the public IP to ssh...
[20:04] <wlightning> stiwari, if the forwarding is already setup for that specific machine
[20:05] <stiwari> ok so how do I get the public IP?
[20:06] <wlightning> stiwari, if the machine has a web browser.. searching Google for "What is my IP?" and it'll say above the search results "Your public IP address is x.x.x.x - Learn More"
[20:07] <PatrickDickey> stiwari: Or you can go to http://whatismyip.com and it should give you the IP address also.
[20:08] <stiwari> well when I try to ssh using the IP given by Google, it says no route to host
[20:08] <PatrickDickey> stiwari: what exactly are you trying to do? ssh inside of your network, or ssh to a computer from outside?
[20:08] <stiwari> ssh to a compute(which resides on a network, say xx.xx.com) from outside
[20:08] <stiwari> *computer, I mean
[20:09] <stiwari> I am damn sure its possible, since almost all the people in my lab(where my mchine is) ssh to their own machines all the time from outside
[20:09] <PatrickDickey> stiwari: And do you know for a fact that their router has the port set up for it?
[20:10] <wlightning> stiwari, have you tried asking them how they do it?
[20:10] <PatrickDickey> Is it me, or are the FloodBots going a bit wacko today?
[20:11] <stiwari> well, I want to figure out on my own rather than ask them...but if nothing works out I might have to do that.
[20:11] <Pici> PatrickDickey: freenode is acting a bit wacko today. The bots can't keep up.
[20:12] <PatrickDickey> That explains a lot then. I got booted off for a Ping timeout, and couldn't get on. Then it took two minutes for it to identify me (said NickServ didn't exist).
[20:13] <xmetal> ok i am just wondering if it'd be a better idea to go with 12.04 LTS or 13.04 ?
[20:14] <PatrickDickey> xmetal: It's pretty much a matter of personal preference, and whether you need the bleeding-edge (or close to it) or more stable.
[20:15] <wlightning> stiwari, we're just doing a bunch of guess-work here, it's really hard for us to give you advice without knowing the full setup.
[20:15] <wlightning> stiwari, and there may be someone you have to ask in order to get it setup.. that's how it is for a lot of places.
[20:16] <PatrickDickey> bbs hopefully. I'm going to try and reboot. Then hopefully apt-get autoremove will actually remove the old kernels... :S
[20:18] <stiwari> wlighning, I understand that very well. thanks a lot to you and everyone else for all your time and efforts.
[20:18] <xmetal> as long as the packages are not "too old" i dont need the latest
[20:18] <wlightning> stiwari, sorry I don't really have much more I can do =)
[20:19] <xmetal> such as i  can get the newest Firefox or VLC (for the most part lastest), i'd be happy with 12
[20:19] <stiwari> hey you have done a lot already, so why the sorry? lol
[20:19] <xmetal> though for a LTS release i plan on getting the NEXT update
[20:19] <xmetal> not the Oct (or Nov for Mint) but the NEXT two releases of those distros will be LTS
[20:20] <xmetal> next year i mean
[20:20] <balrog-k1n> hi, a moment ago when trying to log into the standard unity desktop, it'd only flicker the screen and immediately go back to the login screen, and i saw this in the dmesg everytime:
[20:20] <balrog-k1n> type=1400 audit(1380658030.999:43): apparmor="DENIED" operation="
[20:20] <balrog-k1n> open" parent=1 profile="/usr/lib/lightdm/lightdm/lightdm-guest-session-wrapper"
[20:20] <balrog-k1n> name="/proc/sys/vm/overcommit_memory" pid=3301 comm="pool" requested_mask="r" de
[20:20] <balrog-k1n> nied_mask="r" fsuid=118 ouid=0
[20:20] <balrog-k1n> sorry for the fragmented paste
[20:21] <xmetal> ok if i get 12.04 will i be getting the latest software (when i update of course)
[20:21] <xmetal> or will the general software be "a few versions behind" 13.x ?
[20:21] <xmetal> (say VLC and FIrefox again for an example)
[20:22] <wadie> I changed to unity 2d and now when I play a movie I can't see the video. only audio!
[20:22] <balrog-k1n> later, trying to log in the same way it'd only report some STATUS messages instead of DENIED, and a minutre or so later it just let me log in, what's wrong?
[20:23] <xmetal> i am going to get 13.04 and if i have time 12.04
[20:23] <xmetal> so i have both
[20:23] <xmetal> hmm @ freenet and the floodbots
[20:24] <wadie> I changed to unity 2d and now when I play a movie I can't see the video. only audio!
[20:25] <TheOnlyJoey|Lap> Good day, i am trying out the latest daily of 13.10 and am setting up Nvidia proprietary 319 with nvidia-prime, the problem is that everything seems to work but i am getting a black screen
[20:25] <Pici> TheOnlyJoey|Lap :Raring/13.04 is not yet released. Please join #ubuntu+1 for further support and discussion.
[20:25] <Pici> TheOnlyJoey|Lap: er, and by raring/13.04 I mean saucy/13.10
[20:26] <TheOnlyJoey|Lap> Pici, ah thanks will do
[20:27] <Tex_Nick> my router & PoE died last night ... i've borrowed a PoE from a friend ... now need to setup an old box for router, until replacement parts arrive ... has anyone here set up wireless access on Smoothwall ? ... Smoothwall doesn't seem to have IRC support
[20:27] <bekks> Tex_Nick: That doesnt make Smoothwall an Ubuntu issue :)
[20:29] <vicente__> anyone here do m2m cell work?
[20:29] <TheOnlyJoey|Lap> Tex_Nick, #smoothwall on OFTC
[20:29] <TheOnlyJoey|Lap> Tex_Nick, http://www.smoothwall.org/irc/
[20:29] <Tex_Nick> bekks: right sir thought i'd give a shot sorry
[20:30] <schackofatz> Tex_Nick: also maybe more luck in ##hardware or ##networking in case smoothwall won't do
[20:31] <Tex_Nick> TheOnlyJoey|Lap & schackofatz , hey thanks for the replys ... i'll those a shot :)
[20:32] <wadie> I changed to unity 2d and now when I play a movie I can't see the video. only audio!
[20:35] <sil> what are you using?
[20:36] <wadie> the regular movie player
[20:36] <sil> alright
[20:36] <sil> try vlc
[20:37] <wadie> same thing with vlc :\
[20:37] <wadie> tried it already
[20:38] <sil> look at the output configuration. Something up there?
[20:41] <rafael_> Hi, how can i know the name of my current window manager that i'm using?
[20:43] <OerHeks> rafael_, open terminal:  echo $XDG_CURRENT_DESKTOP
[20:44] <zykotick9> OerHeks: that looked promising, but only gives me a blank line :(..
[20:44] <OerHeks> It gives me "Unity"
[20:46] <rafael_> OerHeks> it gives me "gnome", but i do not know what theme i install, if metacity or gtk, i'm confused
[20:47] <OerHeks> rafael_, what is the output of: cat /etc/issue
[20:47] <rafael_> Ubuntu 13.04 \n \l
[20:47] <rafael_> OerHeks: Ubuntu 13.04 \n \l
[20:48] <OerHeks> rafael_, so my guess is you installed ubuntu-gnome-desktop
[20:50] <mrmcgibby> What's the easiest way to get common logins for a small network with windows mac and linux clients?
[20:51] <Spec> mrmcgibby: ldap?
[20:51] <rafael_> OerHeks: yes, but i want to install a theme for gnome, i'm not in doubt choose which type in gnome-look.org site
[20:52] <mrmcgibby> Spec: I was looking at Samba AD.  You think LDAP would be easier?  Just worried about setting up the windows clients.
[20:52] <djQuery> running 2 monitors with the promary on the right and the secondary on the left. is there a way to move the task bar to the right side of the screen?
[20:53] <trism> rafael_: metacity are the window themes (the borders of the windows), gtk is the toolkit theme (the widgets, buttons, etc), they are pretty much all the same between unity and gnome, except gnome-shell has shell themes too (in addition to the others)
[20:54] <Timtimo> Hey guys, I'm running compiz and I set the opacity from the panels to 40, now I'd like to set the opacity from the icons IN THE panel to 100% is there a way to do it?
[20:55] <kristal> http://time.gov/ TIME HAS ENDED, where do I get the time now...
[20:55] <bekks> kristal: http://time.whistleblowers.org :>
[20:56] <Timtimo> anyone worked a lot of time with compiz?
[20:57] <mrmcgibby> Timtimo: the icons have always been 100% opaque for me, regardless of the panel opacity
[20:58] <Timtimo> mrmcgibby: I set the panel opacity to 40%, the icons in the panel are at 40% too :-/
[20:58] <OerHeks> Timtimo, install unity-tweak, icons should not alter when setting opacity to 40 or less
[20:59] <Timtimo> Ah, forgot to say, that I'm using Gnome, not Unity :)
[20:59] <Timtimo> OerHeks: I got some tuts via google but all are made with Unity
[21:00] <xangua> Timtimo: gnome shell doesn't use compiz (¿)
[21:00] <OerHeks> Timtimo, i don; t know if gnome-desktop does it different, try gnome-tweak-tool
[21:01] <rafael_> trism: thank you!!!
[21:01] <rafael_> OerHeks: thank you too!
[21:01] <wadie> sil ,what do you mean?
[21:01] <Timtimo> xangua: it does :b
[21:02] <Timtimo> I'm using compiz as window manager (gnome classic)
[21:05] <linuxuz3r> Timtimo, hi what gnome version are you running
[21:07] <Timtimo> linuxuz3r: I'm running 3.6.3.1
[21:08] <baphomet1> Could someone here help me in getting connected to an IPSec tunnel (setup by OpenSwan) from an Ubuntu client?  I have tried with VPNC but I cannot connect.  Other non-linux clients are able to connect to the tunnel just fine which leads me to believe this is a client side issue.
[21:11] <xangua> Timtimo: you could have better luck if you use a dock
[21:13] <MrPotatoHead> Hello, I am having sound problems with my machine running Ubuntu 12.04 Server LTS
[21:13] <TonnyNerd> Can anyone tell me if AUFS is being supported on newer releases? I am using ubuntu 12.04
[21:15] <mahem1> k
[21:17] <MrPotatoHead> the nature of the problem is that the integrated sound card appears in my list of devices, but the volume slider and mute checkbox are greyed out.
[21:17] <mn3m0nic> Hello, Saucy here, searching "Bitcoin" into the Software Center: The only result is Bitcoin-Qt, nothing about Electrum (but it's in the repository). Where I can report this ?
[21:17] <schackofatz> hi, when i create a custom ubuntu install CD and the data needs more space than a CD or a DVD can contain. will it automatically be split into tow isos?
[21:17] <MrPotatoHead> I tried some terminal commands my friend found on google, here is a screenshot: http://johnholbrook.no-ip.org/img/terminal2.png
[21:17] <G33kDude> I am MrPotatoHead's friend
[21:18] <OerHeks> MrPotatoHead, use alsamixer > F6 to select soundcard and play with the sliders, m is mute
[21:19] <OerHeks> just type alsamixer [enter]
[21:19] <tozen> schackofatz: what soft do u use to create it?
[21:19] <OerHeks> mn3m0nic, join #ubuntu+1 for saucy support, until release
[21:19] <mn3m0nic> Thank you, OerHeks
[21:20] <BluesKaj> MrPotatoHead, which sound chip , in the top left in alsamixer
[21:20] <tozen> schackofatz: have you ever tried remastersys?
[21:20] <schackofatz> tozen: right now - non. i was just looking at the instrcuctions and they were more like "yeah dude, just fill in what you need and make the iso" - no concern about size at all.
[21:20] <schackofatz> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallCDCustomization
[21:20] <schackofatz> tozen: remastering is bad. better make a custom one
[21:21] <GeekDude> MrPotatoHead: OerHeks: If it helps, here is lspci and lsmod output http://pastebin.com/P7RGv3gz
[21:21] <schackofatz> at least the debian folks make a distinktion there
[21:21] <schackofatz> tozen: remastering = mes around with existing iso; custom cd or mastering  = pack your own from scratch
[21:22] <MrPotatoHead> BluesKaj: Intel 82801BA-ICH2
[21:22] <schackofatz> tozen: anyway - i was wondering what will happen if the data can not be contained by one CD or one DVD
[21:23] <GeekDude> The error when using ALSA on MrPotatoHead's server: "aplay: main:682: audio open error: No such file or directory"
[21:23] <BluesKaj> MrPotatoHead, in the terminal , sudo modprobe snd-hda-intel , there will be no output from that command if the kernel module/driver loads properly , the a reboot will probly be needed
[21:24] <BluesKaj> then
[21:24] <MrPotatoHead> BluesKaj: rebooting now
[21:26] <Ponch0> What is the channel for ubuntu beta?
[21:26] <BluesKaj> Ponch0, #ubuntu+1
[21:27] <Ponch0> thanks you BluesKaj.
[21:30] <MrPotatoHead> BluesKaj, it doesn't appear to have worked, am I doing something wrong in AlsaMIxer? http://johnholbrook.no-ip.org/img/alsamixer.png
[21:31] <GeekDude> MrPotatoHead: Don't you need to unmute PCM?
[21:31] <OerHeks> MrPotatoHead, there are more sliders, to the rightside, use arrowkeys to navigate
[21:32] <BluesKaj> MrPotatoHead, make sure all the ctrls have 00 in the bottom box MM  meams mute so use the M key to unmute and up arrow key increase the volume
[21:32] <MrPotatoHead> BluesKaj, GeekDude, I am turning up all the sliders and unmuting everything
[21:33] <DarthEaron> when i fallow this guide...http://www.howtoforge.com/dvd_images_of_ubuntu_repositories...i get to the command debpartial which cannot be found anyone know how i can get this? running ubuntu 13.04
[21:33] <GeekDude> BluesKaj: OerHeks: MrPotatoHead: It *still* says "ALSA lib pcm.c:2217:(snd_pcm_open_noupdate) Unknown PCM default". I know because I'm messing with his php server while he's changing things.
[21:35] <dragon_rage> clear
[21:35] <dragon_rage> how to change namr
[21:36] <dragon_rage> how to change name
[21:36] <MrPotatoHead> GeekDude: OerHerks: BluesKaj: still doesn't seem to work: http://johnholbrook.no-ip.org/img/alsamixer2.png
[21:36] <BluesKaj> GeekDude, pot what does aplay -l, show ? paste the text in pastebin please
[21:37] <BluesKaj> MrPotatoHead, you have everythging muted
[21:37] <MrPotatoHead> oh
[21:37] <MrPotatoHead> ok
[21:37] <MrPotatoHead> :P
[21:37] <dragon_rage> hello
[21:38] <Zyroo> TJ-: Available?
[21:38] <GeekDude> BluesKaj: One line. "aplay: device_list:252: no soundcards found..."
[21:39] <Ponch0> My wifi has power management off: how do I turn it on?
[21:40] <Ponch0> I mean power management is set to off, how would i set it to on?
[21:40] <tozen> Ponch0: combination of keyboard?
[21:40] <pentest> can some one help plz http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2178061
[21:40] <Ponch0> tozen: I'm sorry?
[21:41] <GeekDude> BluesKaj: This is a more expanded list of data http://pastebin.com/9KAx411A
[21:43] <MrPotatoHead> BluesKaj:I now hear a hissing from my speakers, but the audio player doesn't seem to want to play my .wav file and GeekDude 's attempt at using php to make my server play a sound doesn't seem to have worked
[21:44] <Sander^Lap> How do I upgrade to 13.10 beta? from 13.04?
[21:44] <skydraggo>  your momy
[21:44] <skydraggo> Dude
[21:44] <skydraggo> no
[21:44] <skydraggo> sorry
[21:44] <OerHeks> pentest, is your virtual adapter set to Bridge, not NAT?
[21:46] <pentest> bridge...
[21:46] <pentest> it is in the pic if you look..
[21:47] <BluesKaj> MrPotatoHead, do you have pavucontrol installed , it's settings can help solidify the outputs
[21:47] <pentest> it seems that virtualbox guest os can not get an ip from virbr0 which is created bt libvirt
[21:47] <MrPotatoHead> BluesKaj: I do not have pavucontrol installed that I know of
[21:47] <bekks> pentest: What do you need virbr0 for? The ages when vbox needed that are long gone...
[21:48] <pentest> I installed some virtual os on another server which I needed to manage from this laptop..
[21:48] <BluesKaj>  sorry , but I have to leave , MrPotatoHead , install pavucontrol , it will help ...gotta go now
[21:48] <pentest> hence I have installed virt-manager in this laptop
[21:48] <MrPotatoHead> OK, thanks
[21:49] <k1l_> !saucy | Sander^Lap
[21:49] <pentest> for this particular ltsp setting yes I do not need virbr0
[21:49] <pentest> so how to do it please
[21:49] <pentest> someone
[21:50] <bekks> pentest: setup bridging as described in the vbox manual.
[21:51] <Aprel> Hi. Full installed ubuntu to flashdrive and got everything working fine, but the size is >3GB and would like to reduce this as much as possible. Just want the basic linux commands via terminal, firefox, and my video drivers which I've installed. Any big packages I can uninstall? Is there a list of optional software? Just not sure looking at `dpkg --list` what's not uninstallable.
[21:51] <pentest> well if I do not use virbr0 the only other NIC is wlan0 which I can bridge.. but it is connected to Internet.. so U should not be able to use it for LTSP dhcp server
[21:51] <pentest> am I right
[21:51] <bekks> pentest: No.
[21:52] <pentest> good..I like to wrong..
[21:52] <pentest> so what is the correct way then
[21:52] <pentest> remember I only have one NIC
[21:52] <pentest> Physical NIC
[21:52] <bekks> pentest: Then your setup is impossible.
[21:52] <pentest> why is that please...
[21:53] <pentest> surely I should be able to create virtual adapter and point LTSP server to that adapter
[21:53] <bekks> BEcause you only have one physical network and you cannot differentiate between the traffic of your both logical networks.
[21:53] <Aprel> By "uninstallable" I mean system packages that will cause instability if missing lol
[21:53] <onethfour> what is the deal with ubuntu portable, it seems awesome, but no one has upgraded it to x64
[21:53] <pentest> why not...
[21:53] <quidnunc> I upgraded Ubuntu and now dovecot won't serve pre-upgrade maildir messages. Some but not all of the old messages show up if I load the directory directly in my MUA. Anyone have any ideads
[21:53] <quidnunc> ideas*
[21:53] <quidnunc> ?
[21:53] <bekks> pentest: Refer to chapter 6 of the vbox manual for different settings.
[21:54] <pentest> virtual adapter can be only a different subnet and that virtual adapter can communicate with wlan0
[21:54] <pentest> okay...
[21:54] <bekks> huh?
[21:54] <bekks> No :)
[21:54] <pentest> why not
[21:54] <bekks> pentest: Networking basics.
[21:54] <k1l_> onethfour: its not an offical ubuntu so please see their support
[21:54] <pentest> I am just have a brainstorm..and not arguing if that makes any sense
[21:54] <bekks> pentest: It doesnt :)
[21:55] <pentest> okay let me read then
[21:55] <pentest> thanks bekks
[21:56] <Aprel> Already got rid of thunderbird. Any other big packages like that that ubuntu comes with with default install?
[21:57] <onethfour> I want to run ubuntu apps on windows like this: http://img241.imageshack.us/img241/3280/portableubuntuscreenshowk7.jpg How do I do it?
[21:58] <k1l_> Aprel: why not go the other way? install the minimal install and install just the stuff you need
[21:58] <Guest10015> hi
[21:58] <Guest10015> i want to make a command line utility for an open source project (a type of forum)
[21:59] <Aprel> k1l_: wish I had :( Took several hours to install to flashdrive after the grub mishaps I had. Would like to do that as a fallback.
[21:59] <Guest10015> say the project is called board
[21:59] <Guest10015> and i want to make a utility that does things like
[21:59] <Aprel> k1l_: how much space does a minimal install take up?
[21:59] <k1l_> !minimal
[21:59] <Guest10015> board backup-site > /var/backup
[21:59] <tgm4883> onethfour, that looks like virtualbox
[21:59] <Guest10015> how can i make the command line understand board as referring to the utility
[21:59] <onethfour> tgm4883, its not, its portable ubuntu
[22:00] <onethfour> currently only working on x86 (32bit)
[22:00] <k1l_> onethfour: it is
[22:00] <onethfour> k1l_, no its not
[22:00] <k1l_> its a virtual workaround. but again: see their support. its not an official ubuntu
[22:00] <tgm4883> onethfour, in any case, we don't support portableubuntu here
[22:01] <JohnVonNeumann> i run ubuntu on my server and when the modem is put off an then turned on  ithe Ip changes
[22:01] <volpe> ìciao
[22:01] <tgm4883> JohnVonNeumann, yes, and?
[22:02] <onethfour> http://www.lifehacker.com.au/2009/04/portable-ubuntu-runs-ubuntu-inside-windows/
[22:02] <jobelenus> hey, it seems that `fc-cache` is no longer a command, or oddly not on root's path… is there a new command, or where did it run off to??
[22:02] <tgm4883> onethfour, still, not supported here
[22:03] <JohnVonNeumann> tgm4883: i wanna the IP grt fixed
[22:03] <k1l_> onethfour: again: it uses a virtualisation instance and it is not supported in here. ask the project itself why they do things or dont.
[22:04] <tgm4883> JohnVonNeumann, you mean your private IP (eg. 192.168.x.x), or your public IP?
[22:04] <TheGreatBacon> JohnVonNeumann you need to set your modem to give that server a static IP address, and then configure the interface on the server for whichever IP
[22:04] <JohnVonNeumann> the private one
[22:05] <tgm4883> JohnVonNeumann, then you either need to setup a static on your server, or configure your modem to reserve the IP address for your MAC
[22:09] <TheGreatBacon> ohai ubottu
[22:11] <jobelenus> hey, it seems that `fc-cache` is no longer a command, or oddly not on root's path… is there a new command, or where did it run off to??
[22:11] <zxzx> my 13.04 install screen res is set at 1024x768, how to edit the config to allow more resolutions?
[22:12] <jobelenus> can anyone just run `which fc-cache` and tell me what they get for a path?
[22:13] <bekks> jobelenus: /usr/bin/
[22:13] <TheGreatBacon> jobelenus what version of ubuntu?
[22:14] <jobelenus> im on lucid (10.04)
[22:14] <jobelenus> yea, its definitely not there in /usr/bin.. hrmm… this is a server, without a windowing system.. could that be the issue?
[22:16] <TheGreatBacon> jobelenus is the server hosting anything that would need access to fonts?
[22:16] <baphomet1> Could someone here help me in getting connected to an IPSec tunnel (setup by OpenSwan) from an Ubuntu client?  I have tried with VPNC but I cannot connect.  Other non-linux clients are able to connect to the tunnel just fine which leads me to believe this is a client side issue.
[22:16] <jobelenus> yea… i am using wkhtmltopdf
[22:17] <TheGreatBacon> hmm
[22:17] <jobelenus> TheGreatBacon: so i need to install a font (which i've moved to /usr/share/fonts already)… but cant seem to rebuild the cache now
[22:17] <Anto> hola
[22:17] <TheGreatBacon> i get it, i just don't remember where fc-cache was in 10.04
[22:17] <TheGreatBacon> trying to google for it though
[22:17] <adac> How can I setup the application that should be opened when I open a torrent?
[22:18] <jobelenus> TheGreatBacon: well, are you sure that fc-cache would be installed on systems without x11/gnome/etc?
[22:18] <honestemu> Whenever I log in, I get the error message: "An online account needs attention". I tried googling it, but I can't find a solution because it was a known bug. I was just curious if any of you have the same problem and if any of you have a solution.
[22:18] <jobelenus> e.g. my problem is not "why isnt it on the path", but instead "i need to install it and all its dependencies"
[22:19] <TheGreatBacon> ah, so you need to install it then.  do you have apt?
[22:19] <jobelenus> i don't know if i need to -- thats what i want to figure out
[22:19] <Anto> hello
[22:19] <Anto> talk in spanish?
[22:19] <TheGreatBacon> is this for a production system, or a hobbie type of deal
[22:19] <baphomet1> Could someone here help me in getting connected to an IPSec tunnel (setup by OpenSwan) from an Ubuntu client?  I have tried with VPNC but I cannot connect.  Other non-linux clients are able to connect to the tunnel just fine which leads me to believe this is a client side issue.
[22:19] <jobelenus> TheGreatBacon: production, hence my reluctance
[22:19] <TheGreatBacon> ah, gotcha
[22:19] <TheGreatBacon> hang on then while i research it
[22:21] <TheGreatBacon> jobelenus, do u have fontconfig installed?  it's a dependancy
[22:21] <Guest10015> how do i make a command line utility
[22:21] <jobelenus> `which fontconfig` is empty
[22:21] <jobelenus> `which font-config` is empty too
[22:21] <jobelenus> so, doesnt look like it
[22:21] <Guest10015> I want it to work like the command line utilities on linux
[22:22] <k1l_> !spanish | Anto
[22:22] <Guest10015> <utility name> <command> <arguments>
[22:22] <Guest10015> how can I make a utility like that?
[22:22] <TheGreatBacon> jobelenus, to begin: you will need to install it.  can you verify that fontconfig will be compatible with your requirements?  If so, then 'apt-get install fontconfig'
[22:23] <jobelenus> ok cool...
[22:23] <TheGreatBacon> let me know when that completes please
[22:23] <Guest10015> presione intro.
 <utility name> <command> <arguments>
 how can I make a utility like that?
[22:23] <Guest10015> !Japanese | Guest10015
[22:24] <Guest10015> !Hebrew | Guest10015
[22:24] <ikonia> Guest10015: that's just the output of $1 in a shell script,
[22:24] <ikonia> Guest10015: please stop randomly using the bot, pm ubottu if you want to use it
[22:24] <baphomet1> Could someone here help me in getting connected to an IPSec tunnel (setup by OpenSwan) from an Ubuntu client?  I have tried with VPNC but I cannot connect.  Other non-linux clients are able to connect to the tunnel just fine which leads me to believe this is a client side issue.
[22:24] <Guest10015> how do I pm, Ikkiko ?
[22:24] <Guest10015> ikonia, *
[22:24] <Guest10015> ikonia, can you ansermy ubuntu question
[22:24] <ikonia> Guest10015: /mng ubottu whatever
[22:25] <ikonia> Guest10015: /msg ubottu whatever
[22:25] <ikonia> (typo sorry)
[22:25] <Guest10015> /msg ubuntiste-msakni !Esperanto
[22:25] <Guest10015> oops
[22:25] <ikonia> Guest10015: I've answered your ubuntu question
[22:25] <Guest10015> where is the answer?
[22:25] <ikonia> Guest10015: that's just the output of $1 in a shell script,
[22:25] <Guest10015> ok
[22:27] <iTitou> Hi everyone, I have a PN544-based NFC card reader, and I want to play with it. For this, I think I should use neard (https://01.org/linux-nfc/about), but in order to compile neardAL (https://01.org/linux-nfc/about) I need glib>=2.30. I googled a bit, and it seems tricky.
[22:28] <ikonia> iTitou: it would be VERY unwise to change glibc versions
[22:29] <iTitou> ikonia: I don't want to replace my current GLib version, but I would like to have a static libGLib to build neardAL
[22:29] <ikonia> iTitou: you can use that, however I suspect it will cause run time problms from your application unless you are very careful
[22:31] <iTitou> ikonia: I tried to build GLib 2.36, but automake raised a version error too
[22:32] <ikonia> iTitou: you'll need to work through any reverse dependencies, very very carefull
[22:32] <ikonia> carefully
[22:33]  * iTitou scared
[22:33] <iorweth> How can i change default location to upload files with vsftp? I want it to be /var/www
[22:34] <ikonia> change the public ftp root
[22:34] <iorweth> how?
[22:34] <ikonia> it's in the config file
[22:34] <iorweth> ok, thanks - ikonia
[22:36]  * TheGreatBacon never gets thanked
[22:37] <iorweth> I really can't find it in the config file...
[22:39] <upd> !g vsftp ubuntu default upload path
[23:02] <TheMercurio> Hi guys
[23:03] <TheMercurio> My graphic card is AMD Radeon HD7670M & my ubuntu version is 13.04 gnome x64
[23:03] <TheMercurio> I just installed original drivers from amd.com but it is worse than xorg drivers
[23:04] <TheMercurio> Is there any problem?
[23:04] <m_tadeu> I have an irda transmiter/receiver....does these devices usualy get detected when I connecto to the usb?
[23:05] <TheGreatBacon> m_tadeu, you can find out with the command 'lsusb'
[23:06] <wingnut2626> anyone in here familiar with cron?
[23:06]  * TheGreatBacon is familiar with cron
[23:06] <TheMercurio> is TheGreatBacon familiar with AMD drivers ?
[23:07] <wingnut2626> if i have 2 cron jobs scheduled at the same time, does cron wait for the first process to start the 2nd, or do they both run at the sametime
[23:07] <wingnut2626> ?
[23:07] <Pici> wingnut2626: they both run at the same time
[23:07] <m_tadeu> TheGreatBacon: it's not there....my question would be to know if this is normal (not being detected) or this device won't work connected to a pc
[23:07] <TheGreatBacon> m_tadeu, is the Ubuntu machine physical or virtual
[23:08] <m_tadeu> TheGreatBacon: physical
[23:08] <wingnut2626> ok i am running 2 shell scripts, the 2nd of which is dependent on the output of the first, so I guess I'll make one cron entry with a ; seperating the commands
[23:09] <TheGreatBacon> m_tadeu when you say it's not detected, do you mean that the output of 'lsusb' does not reveal the device(s) in question?  Or do you mean that when you plug it in, nothing pops up on your UI to show you it's now connected and ready for use?
[23:09] <Zyroo> Hello how may i regenerate /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules its missing content and one of my interface not working
[23:10] <m_tadeu> TheGreatBacon: nothing shows up in lsusb, neither dmesg
[23:10] <TheGreatBacon> m_tadeu when version of Ubuntu
[23:11] <TheGreatBacon> what* version of Ubuntu
[23:11] <m_tadeu> TheGreatBacon: 13.04
[23:11] <TheGreatBacon> m_tadeu, Server or Desktop?
[23:12] <m_tadeu> TheGreatBacon: desktop
[23:12] <m_tadeu> this is a repeater device...so maybe this was a bad purchase :P just trying to figure out if it can interact with the pc, somehow
[23:13] <TheGreatBacon> m_tadeu, is the USB device detected when inserted into another Ubuntu 13.04 Desktop?
[23:13] <compdoc> Zyroo, you can use the command:  udevadm trigger
[23:13] <m_tadeu> TheGreatBacon: dmesg and /var/log/syslog don't say a thing
[23:13] <compdoc> some sites say to delete the file. some say to just erase the device lines inside the file
[23:14] <TheGreatBacon> m_tadeu, dmesg and syslog on a different Ubuntu 13.04 desktop system or this one?
[23:15] <m_tadeu> TheGreatBacon: tihs one
[23:15] <compdoc> Zyroo, also:    sudo INTERFACE=eth0 udevadm test --action=add /sys/class/net/eth0
[23:15] <Zyroo> compdoc: tnx let me chk
[23:15] <TheGreatBacon> how about another 13.04 desktop
[23:15] <yareth> Any good recommended site or sites to check after a Ubuntu 13.04 install ? ? Would like as many codecs to work as possible, and netflicks if thats possible. Suggestions ?
[23:16] <m_tadeu> TheGreatBacon: I don't have another
[23:16] <Zyroo> compdoc: The names eth0 is not getting m getting em1 and p5p1
[23:16] <freannrak> I'm using 12.04 and tried using cairo dock as my primary one. After deciding I didn't like it I removed it from my package manager and rebooted. When selecting "Ubuntu" from the login screen the unity launcher and GUI doesn't start. All I have is a blank desktop and the ability to launch the terminal via ctrl+alt+t shortcut. When choosing 2D Ubuntu from the login screen unity launcher + gui shows up fine, but I'd still like to use the 3D version. Any suggest
[23:16] <compdoc> Zyroo, substitute as needed
[23:16] <migas> Welcome to #ubuntu, Bercik !
[23:16] <migas> Welcome to #ubuntu, virusuy !
[23:16] <migas> Welcome to #ubuntu, virusuy !
[23:17] <Pici> migas: turn that off please.
[23:17] <compdoc> Zyroo, useful command:    ls -al /sys/class/net/*
[23:18] <TheGreatBacon> m_tadeu, Can you plug it into any other system to determine if it is read there?
[23:18] <migas> Welcome to #ubuntu, zarroboogs !
[23:18] <Zyroo> compdoc: I added do i have to restart network or reboot to get effect still the rules file empty
[23:19] <m_tadeu> TheGreatBacon: I can't...I have no other system here
[23:19] <TheGreatBacon> m_tadeu, I'm leaning toward it being a bad device with the information we have right now.  Would you agree?
[23:20] <m_tadeu> TheGreatBacon: I might....as I said, it is a ir repeater...just making sure it wasn't able to interact with the pc
[23:20] <Zyroo> compdoc: I restarted still no effect
[23:21] <TheGreatBacon> m_tadeu, how old is it
[23:22] <freannrak> to answer my own question, I just needed to reenable the unity-plugin from CompizConfig
[23:23] <m_tadeu> TheGreatBacon: seems kinda new...you can take a look at it here... http://www.ebay.com/itm/130978728295?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1497.l2649
[23:25] <laniasepstuisna> eee
[23:25] <TheGreatBacon> m_tadeu, hold on a sec.  Your USB port may not be putting out 5V
[23:26] <TheGreatBacon> can you verify the output voltage at the USB port you are attempting to use?
[23:26] <m_tadeu> TheGreatBacon: I think it is....because it's lighting up a led
[23:26] <TheGreatBacon> m_tadeu you can light a led but not entirely power a device
[23:26] <m_tadeu> TheGreatBacon: ok how can I check that?
[23:26] <TheGreatBacon> I'd check the output voltage at the port
[23:26] <TheGreatBacon> Voltmeter
[23:27] <wingnut2626> when would a crontab entry of '0 * * * *' execute?  I want to guess every hour on the hour?
[23:27] <m_tadeu> TheGreatBacon: I don't have one....but I usualy charge my mobile on this port
[23:28] <lulnix> hey, wondering if anyone could help me with a driver issue?
[23:28] <TheGreatBacon> m_tadeu, I'd check the voltage
[23:29] <ggherdov> hello. just installed virtualbox via apt-get, and got some not-so-reassuring [fail].
[23:29] <ggherdov> Notably, "No suitable module for running kernel found". Here the details: http://bpaste.net/show/QgBhqhLfZ0ylysMiVlxv/
[23:29] <ggherdov> How much worried should I be?
[23:29] <malinus> Hello. I'm concerned about my privacy when using ubuntu. I've already removed unity and zeitgeist, and installed xfce instead. But now I can't find the privacy options. Any ideas where they are?
[23:31] <lulnix> i have fglrx-updates installed right now and is working fine with running 3 monitors on a HD 7790.... whenever i install the propriatary drivers off the amd site my system never boots after and i sit in blackness untill i reinstall OS. Can't run games good with fglrx-eperimental or fglrx-update... what do?
[23:32] <max3> can someone help me understand something about process scheduling in operating systems? is it possible to have a process run for exactly its quantum in round-robin scheduling? if the quantum is some multiple of the timer interrupt period for example?
[23:32] <max3> join #oses
[23:33] <m_tadeu> TheGreatBacon: ok thanx...I'll try to do that....in the meanwhile, I'll open the device and check if all wires are connected or only the power wires
[23:34] <TheGreatBacon> m_tadeu: Good call
[23:34] <dog-food> lulnix I had the same problem so I don't use the drivers from amd site
[23:35] <max3> can someone help me understand something about process scheduling in operating systems? is it possible to have a process run for exactly its quantum in round-robin scheduling? if the quantum is some multiple of the timer interrupt period for example?
[23:35] <lulnix> dog-food --- is it possible to play steam games with open source drivers then?
[23:35] <faugusztin> ggherdov: are you trying to install virtualbox inside a chroot inside your arch linux system ?
[23:36] <ggherdov> faugusztin: no. It's an ubuntu server 12.04. Why do you say so?
[23:37] <dog-food> lulnix, fglrx is the proprietary driver
[23:37] <faugusztin> ggherdov: because it found some 2.6.38 kernel instead of 3.xx 12.04 has
[23:38] <ggherdov> faugusztin: I just noted the same thing. It is a machine I rent from a server farm. They probably did some custom stuff.
[23:39] <faugusztin> ggherdov: /proc/modules can't be opened either - something clearly isn't right. my bet is tat you are inside kvm/openvz, and i don't think you will be able to run vbox inside that
[23:39] <ggherdov> and I am probably in a chroot
[23:39] <faugusztin> *that
[23:40] <ggherdov> faugusztin: just spaculating at random, any chance I can install some virtualization of other sort? like QEMU or linux VServer ? What do you think?
[23:40] <ggherdov> speculating*
[23:41] <faugusztin> vm inside a vm ? not sure, maybe some full cpu emulation like qemu, but that will be slow
[23:42] <ggherdov> faugusztin: what I am paying for is not a vm, the contract says I am paying for a physical machine. Otherwise I am being scammed :)
[23:42]  * ggherdov double checks the contract
[23:43] <metasansana> Is there a way to listen for syslog events from an application?
[23:46] <ggherdov> metasansana: no idea, but I see a #syslog-ng channel here in freenode. 22 people inside.
[23:46] <metasansana> ggherdov, thanks
[23:50] <Kalel> Can I mak a bootable pen drive from a live cd
[23:50] <Kalel> I couldnt
[23:55] <pfifo> hello world
[23:57] <Ownix> when I do a udisks --mount /dev/sdc5 it mounts it with a label like /77s8dfsad7f6sa7dfs-fd8as7df7-87483748gshj/
[23:57] <Ownix> How do I mount my disk with a human readable name?
[23:57] <Ownix> Im assuming the disk does not have a label and thats why its mounting it with its serail number as its name?
[23:59] <Jordan_U> Ownix: You could add a label to the filesystem (Not to the "disk").
[23:59] <freannrak> I've a question about unity winkey+appnumber navigation? I've been using it to swap between applications on different workplaces. I've got chrome on workspace1, terminal on workspace2 and skype on workspace3. They also exist on my unity launchbar 1-2-3. I'm able to navigate between chrome and terminal using winkey+1/2, but i'm unable to navigate to workspace3 with winkey+3.
[23:59] <Ownix> Yep that was the issue. sudo e2label labeled the drive and now a udisks mount mounts it with that drive label
[23:59] <Ownix> Jordan_U: labeled the filesystem***