| === ElectricErger is now known as ElectricErger|Po | ||
| slickymaster | morning all o/ | 08:42 |
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| ochosi | morning | 08:42 |
| brainwash | hi | 08:42 |
| brainwash | ochosi: adding pitti to the affected user list didn't quite help (yet) =S | 08:44 |
| ochosi | i'd try to get in touch with seb128 | 08:45 |
| ochosi | and point him to the bugreport directly, ask him whether he has a clue what's up with that | 08:45 |
| brainwash | did you see his reply in #ubuntu-devel? | 08:45 |
| ochosi | g2g, bbl | 08:45 |
| ochosi | nope | 08:45 |
| brainwash | I did that | 08:45 |
| brainwash | he told me to report it upstream | 08:45 |
| ochosi | hmpf | 08:45 |
| brainwash | I'll test the 3 important commits one by one then | 08:46 |
| brainwash | cya | 08:46 |
| ochosi | cool, thanks! | 08:46 |
| ochosi | ttyl | 08:46 |
| === brainwash_ is now known as brainwash | ||
| brainwash | ochosi: I gave up messing with gvfs and simply added a comment to the gnome bug report which is the cause of the gvfs "bug fix" release 1.18.1 | 11:00 |
| brainwash | https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=708744 | 11:00 |
| ubottu | Gnome bug 708744 in client module "GDaemonFileEnumerator registers itself on *all* dbus connections" [Normal,Resolved: fixed] | 11:00 |
| brainwash | ochosi: I'm surprised that a new upstart release (containing the fix to reduce logout time) has not been pushed into proposed yet | 11:45 |
| ochosi | brainwash: yeah, these things sometimes take time. it's even possible that it'll be pushed after the release, since it's bugfix | 13:13 |
| brainwash | ochosi: I'll do some research about the development cycle and package freezing and so on :) | 13:50 |
| === ubott2 is now known as ubottu | ||
| === meetingology` is now known as meetingology | ||
| === J21_ is now known as J21 | ||
| === davmor2_ is now known as davmor2 | ||
| === Maple[] is now known as Maple__ | ||
| brainwash | ochosi: bug 1232119 | 21:50 |
| ubottu | bug 1232119 in upstart (Ubuntu) " FFE Request for Upstart in saucy " [Undecided,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1232119 | 21:50 |
| ochosi | i assume that's "good news evryone!" ? | 21:52 |
| knome | allö ochosi, brainwash | 21:53 |
| brainwash | knome: hey | 21:53 |
| ochosi | ahoi | 21:53 |
| brainwash | ochosi: hopefully he won't forget about releasing an updated version upstart :) | 21:54 |
| ochosi | :) | 21:54 |
| brainwash | nay idea, why Xfce won't react to keyboard shortcuts? it's like 50/50 on every login that they will work or simply won't | 21:56 |
| brainwash | and appfinder is really slow now on my test machine | 21:56 |
| brainwash | xfsettingsd is running | 21:57 |
| ochosi | i'm seeing a similar issue | 21:58 |
| brainwash | (the time needed for appfinder to actually popup) | 21:59 |
| ochosi | kb-shortcuts at session-start is +10secs or so | 21:59 |
| brainwash | it's the same old dbus mess | 21:59 |
| ochosi | after those initial 10secs, the kb-shortcuts seem fine | 21:59 |
| ochosi | think i've seen this problem in prior releases | 21:59 |
| brainwash | yea, not quite sure if my keyboard shortcuts actually recover fully | 22:00 |
| knome | i sometimes have a bug that the shortcuts do not work when i've closed all applications *after* working | 22:00 |
| knome | opening a terminal with a panel launcher and closing that immediately make the shortcuts work again | 22:00 |
| ochosi | well, launching apps any other way works in normal speed for e | 22:01 |
| ochosi | me | 22:01 |
| ochosi | so it seems xfsettingsd related | 22:01 |
| brainwash | yes | 22:01 |
| brainwash | want to file a bug report? :) | 22:01 |
| knome | i don't, but i'm more than happy to confirm and help triage and get it publicity. | 22:01 |
| ochosi | know what we could do? keep it a secret instead and maybe no-one will notice ;) | 22:02 |
| knome | that *is* an option | 22:03 |
| knome | i suppose i can file the bug at some point | 22:03 |
| knome | but not up to that now | 22:03 |
| brainwash | knome: can you assign high priority to this bug (gvfs package) please? | 22:04 |
| brainwash | bug 1231978 | 22:04 |
| ubottu | bug 1231978 in thunar (Ubuntu) "Thunar 1.6.3 locks when browsing Trash with Xubuntu 13.10 Beta 2 and following dailies" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1231978 | 22:04 |
| ochosi | +1 | 22:05 |
| knome | set to critical. that good | 22:05 |
| knome | ? | 22:05 |
| ochosi | i guess | 22:05 |
| brainwash | yea :) | 22:05 |
| ochosi | it's really a sucky sucky bug | 22:05 |
| knome | i'll ping pitti about it | 22:06 |
| brainwash | I already subscribed him to the bug report, but no comment yet | 22:06 |
| knome | i pinged him on IRC | 22:07 |
| brainwash | I did comment on the upstream bug report responsible for the 1.18.1 release of gvfs, but maybe I should have just file a new bug report (not sure if those guys care about comments on resolved reports) | 22:13 |
| brainwash | https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=708744 | 22:14 |
| ubottu | Gnome bug 708744 in client module "GDaemonFileEnumerator registers itself on *all* dbus connections" [Normal,Resolved: fixed] | 22:14 |
| bluesabre | yeah, comments on resolved tend to be ignored forever | 22:18 |
| brainwash | knome: and I'm curious about bug 1232027, shouldn't the missing package be included as soon as possible? to allow some testing before final release | 22:18 |
| ubottu | bug 1232027 in xubuntu-meta (Ubuntu) "pm-utils not installed by default in 13.10" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1232027 | 22:18 |
| brainwash | bluesabre: :( | 22:18 |
| bluesabre | but knome can probably haunt the right people | 22:18 |
| bluesabre | s/haunt/ping | 22:18 |
| bluesabre | :) | 22:18 |
| ochosi | darn, brainwash and bluesabre, you're so hard to distinguish at late ours. same first letter and same nick-length... | 22:18 |
| knome | bah | 22:18 |
| knome | bluesabre, you should learn that skill as well ;) | 22:19 |
| bluesabre | :) | 22:19 |
| bluesabre | brainwash: that is an interesting bug | 22:19 |
| brainwash | ochosi: use some colors to distinguish our nicks | 22:20 |
| knome | brainwash, get better, more distiguishable nicks | 22:21 |
| bluesabre | I'd recommend making mine your terminal background color ;) | 22:21 |
| ochosi | brainwash: my irssi-skills are too low and i'm quite fond of using a rather monochrome-ish theme... | 22:21 |
| * knome files a bug | 22:21 | |
| ochosi | bluesabre: you wanna be the invisible man freddie mercury was singing about? | 22:21 |
| knome | now now | 22:22 |
| bluesabre | haha | 22:22 |
| knome | you should all join -ot | 22:22 |
| knome | we're more on topic there than you are here, shame! | 22:22 |
| ochosi | knome: well, who's at more at fault then? (at least i assume that's your question) | 22:23 |
| Unit193 | ochosi: /run nickcolor.pl | 22:24 |
| knome | ochosi, there wasn't a question .P | 22:24 |
| * Unit193 doesn't use it. :D | 22:24 | |
| knome | me neither, i rather misread nicks. | 22:24 |
| pleia2 | ta-da https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2013-October/037695.html | 22:24 |
| ochosi | Unit193: yeah, as i said, i prefer monochrome irssi... if i start making bluesabre's nick e.g. *blue* i guess that'd just make things weird | 22:24 |
| Unit193 | pleia2: Yep, not surprised. | 22:26 |
| pleia2 | interesting that multi-monitor was the nail in the coffin for them too | 22:26 |
| pleia2 | I'm so glad they're taking that support seriously | 22:27 |
| knome | pleia2, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U4_bklAqlaU | 22:27 |
| knome | ta-dah! | 22:27 |
| pleia2 | hehe | 22:28 |
| bluesabre | :D | 22:29 |
| bluesabre | that movie was just as excellent as the first | 22:30 |
| knome | hehe, yep | 22:30 |
| knome | minions are the best :P | 22:30 |
| ochosi | hehe | 22:31 |
| ochosi | well, no time to feel schadenfreude | 22:31 |
| pleia2 | I've not seen either | 22:31 |
| ochosi | after all, at some point xmir might bring benefits | 22:31 |
| bluesabre | yeah, it might be worthwhile later on | 22:33 |
| ochosi | at least intel-users said they felt everything looked "smoother" | 22:33 |
| bluesabre | unfortunately, this probably means its delayed until 14.10 since they will probably want to avoid going full-force on it for the LTS without a "stable" testing time | 22:33 |
| Unit193 | I'd hope at least... | 22:34 |
| ochosi | we'll see | 22:36 |
| ochosi | these things don't seem to be very predictable in ubuntu from my experience | 22:36 |
| knome | no | 22:37 |
| knome | what i'm proud of is that we did the 'right' decision | 22:37 |
| Unit193 | But that also means all that testing and playing around was worthless. :P | 22:38 |
| knome | it's not. | 22:38 |
| knome | it's ground for xmir for later. | 22:38 |
| bluesabre | yeah, we raised a bunch of concerns :) | 22:38 |
| Unit193 | Well, something to compare to, but still. | 22:38 |
| ochosi | xubuntu also made quite a few headlines thanks to your images, Unit193 | 22:40 |
| bluesabre | indeed | 22:40 |
| ochosi | (and with "images" i mean the pictures and photographs of yourself that you shared) | 22:40 |
| Unit193 | Ahaha. But you mean the other type of images. :D | 22:40 |
| ochosi | great minds think alike ;) | 22:40 |
| ochosi | (unfortunately so do idiots) | 22:41 |
| Unit193 | Sadly for you at least... | 22:41 |
| ochosi | so anyway, before knome kicks me out of -devel for being a bit -ot, great work on that xmir initiative | 22:41 |
| ochosi | it was far from worthless | 22:41 |
| knome | +1 | 22:42 |
| knome | and far from a crappy effort. | 22:42 |
| Unit193 | Eh, could be better, but at least http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S65ZzffW-Cw | 22:47 |
| ochosi | harhar | 22:49 |
| ochosi | nice one | 22:49 |
| ochosi | (wait, is that a *thing* now, that we post yt-links to these kind a quotes?) | 22:49 |
| * knome shrugs | 22:50 | |
| knome | used to happen in -ot | 22:50 |
| brainwash | ochosi: can you explain the current gtk2/gtk3 panel indicator situation please? still no gtk3 indicators for xubuntu users? | 22:52 |
| ochosi | brainwash: it seems like gtk3 indicators won't happen by default in 13.10 | 22:53 |
| ochosi | there might be a PPA for them though | 22:53 |
| knome | ochosi, micahg said he's going to try to push them in though | 22:53 |
| brainwash | and forking them was never an option? | 22:53 |
| ochosi | bluesabre was working on one, haven't checked what the status is | 22:53 |
| knome | or then i misunderstood, Unit193 asked about that | 22:54 |
| bluesabre | hm what? | 22:54 |
| ochosi | wow, lotsa confusion here :) | 22:54 |
| brainwash | what the bug? | 22:54 |
| ochosi | brainwash: forking them doesn't help if the protocol or API of the services changes | 22:54 |
| ochosi | knome: really? when did he say that? if so, is that really the plan? cause then i need to hack together support for them in 2 or 3 themes of ours | 22:55 |
| knome | ochosi, around three hours ago in -offtopic | 22:57 |
| ochosi | knome: haha, that seems to be the place for that kind of announcement | 22:58 |
| knome | not announcement | 22:58 |
| knome | Unit193 just asked him | 22:58 |
| Unit193 | ochosi: I asked, he answered. | 22:58 |
| knome | tell him to ask in -devel | 22:58 |
| ochosi | i see | 22:58 |
| knome | no, don't see, just tell | 22:58 |
| knome | :P | 22:58 |
| ochosi | well not sure what to say | 22:58 |
| ochosi | i guess i'll wait until that's in the archives until i start spending time on the themes | 22:59 |
| ochosi | or at least: until it's in the works for realz | 22:59 |
| knome | if that helps/soothes you at all, i'll want that in 14.04 at least, if there is no other solution (and i don't think there will be) | 22:59 |
| knome | so work made on that isn't useless anyway | 22:59 |
| ochosi | yeah, possibly not | 23:00 |
| ochosi | unless theming stuff changes | 23:00 |
| knome | so, we should probably just make a collective decision to keep the devel stuff in -devel and the rest in -ot | 23:00 |
| knome | we haven't scheduled the next meeting, but i'll add that to the agenda | 23:01 |
| knome | if the wiki decides to load | 23:01 |
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