| silverbulleto | guys, kubuntu 13.04 isn't lts right? | 00:43 |
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| mparillo | Xerofyte: To add Widgets to the desktop, just right-click on your desktop and select Add Widgets. | 01:36 |
| gilb | hello | 01:38 |
| mparillo | Xerofyte: To install widgets, after you select Add Widgets, you should see Get New Widgets, and you can pick from many. | 01:42 |
| westyvw | is Karbon not in Kubuntu anymore? | 01:51 |
| mparillo | !find karbon | 01:58 |
| ubottu | Found: karbon | 01:58 |
| mparillo | !find karbon saucy | 01:58 |
| westyvw | saucy only eh? | 02:00 |
| westyvw | hmm well apt-get install karbon didnt throw an error this time. odd | 02:01 |
| westyvw | so like nevermind! | 02:01 |
| mparillo | !info karbon | 02:02 |
| ubottu | karbon (source: calligra): vector graphics application for the Calligra Suite. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:2.6.3-0ubuntu1 (raring), package size 828 kB, installed size 2514 kB | 02:02 |
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| ampopf_ | Hello. Did anybody experienced problem with VPN routing in kde 4.11? KDE does not save PPTP VPN connection (new or existed) if there are changes in routing. | 06:30 |
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| ropeus | hello mates | 08:46 |
| ropeus | i need assistance w/ ur permission | 08:46 |
| ropeus | i've linux lite 2.3.0 w/ ubuntu 12.4 | 08:46 |
| ropeus | is necessary an upgrade to lastest linux distribution? | 08:46 |
| ropeus | any remark will be welcomed | 08:47 |
| ropeus | tnx in advance | 08:47 |
| hateball | ropeus: Are you experiencing any problems? 12.04 is a LTS release so it should be good for security | 08:47 |
| hateball | So unless you want new features, there's no reason to fix what is not broken | 08:48 |
| ropeus | yes mate but i use it only for learning by browsing spcific sites | 08:48 |
| ropeus | it is installed on Asus Eee PC 8.9" w. 2 GB Ram & 2 SSD 4GB SLC 16 GB MLC | 08:49 |
| ropeus | Enough for linux i guess | 08:50 |
| ropeus | my friend recommend me to install lastest Ubuntu release | 08:51 |
| ropeus | it is any difference between them when discuss about security ? | 08:51 |
| Tm_T | ropeus: as long as it's supported release you should be fine in that | 08:52 |
| ropeus | understood and tnx 4 ur support, guys | 08:53 |
| ropeus | it's my first time when I use this kind of comm , under LINUX S.O 'course | 08:54 |
| ropeus | i hope so I don't disturb U in anyway ... | 08:54 |
| Tm_T | ropeus: not at all, this is actually the correct place to ask such questions (: | 08:55 |
| Tm_T | ropeus: so basicly your current options are 12.04 and 13.04 releases, 13.10 release will come out later this month | 08:55 |
| ropeus | i see that and thanxs again | 08:55 |
| ropeus | my fault is that I use just for few months this open-source solution | 08:56 |
| ropeus | even I've 44 and I am a cyber forensic expert , retired National Institute Of Forensic Science employer http://www.inec.ro | 08:58 |
| ropeus | and now , CEO of My own ROPEUS INVESTIGATION AGENCY, Microsoft Certified Gold Partner, MSCE and CCNA 3.0 | 08:59 |
| ropeus | but a novice in LINUX Administration :( | 09:00 |
| ropeus | see ya next time .... | 09:01 |
| ropeus | with regards, EUSEBIU PUNGARU - http://ro.linkedin.com/pub/eusebiu-pungaru/13/578/456 | 09:02 |
| IR0NY | привет | 09:24 |
| M_Kay | i would love to buy new kubuntu t-shirt! :/ | 09:25 |
| IR0NY | =) | 09:25 |
| M_Kay | but there is so official shop for that right? | 09:25 |
| IR0NY | dont know | 09:26 |
| M_Kay | *no | 09:26 |
| IR0NY | BB | 09:26 |
| ppawel | mparillo, hi, after today's package update everything is ok again | 09:37 |
| mparillo | ppawel: Thank you for the update. Muon update has not yet notified me of 4.11.2 (of course I could apt-get, but I tend not to on Kubuntu; for some reason I now need to on Mint KDE, but that is a story for another channel). Did kwallet come in today's update or do you no longer think that was the root cause? | 09:40 |
| ppawel | mparillo, a lot of packages got updated to 4.11.2 and kwallet started working again. I think the problem was that I got in the middle of kde upgrade yesterday - part of packages was at 4.11.1 and part was updated.. or maybe not | 09:42 |
| ppawel | anyway it works now | 09:42 |
| mparillo | M_Kay: https://holvi.com/shop/Kubuntu/ | 09:43 |
| mparillo | ppawel: Glad to hear it. I will keep that in mind when the 4.11.2 update appears for me. | 09:44 |
| M_Kay | nice i didn't know about that :) | 09:45 |
| M_Kay | will there be other products in near future? | 09:45 |
| M_Kay | i cant war size L :D | 09:46 |
| mparillo | M_Kay: I do not know for certain, but I have lurked and heard some chatter. | 09:48 |
| lordievader | Whoo there are shirts available, should order one soon :D | 09:50 |
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| BluesKaj | Hey folks | 10:14 |
| Nerdy | Hi. | 10:27 |
| lordievader | Hey Nerdy | 10:28 |
| Nerdy | I recently install a seagate 64mb cache 1tb hard drive into my PC and for some reason I can't quite fathom the installer for kubuntu 13.04 64 bit doesn't recognise the exisiting partition and unallocated space. | 10:28 |
| Nerdy | I can mount the partitions and unmount them in the desktop ui. | 10:28 |
| Nerdy | But the installer just won't read it properly. | 10:28 |
| Nerdy | Never had this issue before. | 10:29 |
| Nerdy | It is mbr setup not gpt. | 10:31 |
| lordievader | Nerdy: Was it formated by Windows as a dynamic disk? | 10:31 |
| Nerdy | Nope. | 10:31 |
| Nerdy | I did shrink the hard drive down in windows but that has never had this knock on effect before with Linux OS's. | 10:31 |
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| Nerdy | ST1000DM003 | 10:36 |
| Nerdy | Seagate hdd. | 10:36 |
| lordievader | Good afternoon. | 12:07 |
| yossarianuk | is 13.10 going to ship with latest KDE version - i.e 4.11.2 ? | 12:22 |
| yossarianuk | and will it follow 4.11.x updates ? (as 4.11 is an LTS version of KDE) | 12:23 |
| soee | yossarianuk, yes | 13:03 |
| soee | this is going to be main KDE version i think, and than newer will land in saucy backports | 13:03 |
| CRASH26 | hello | 13:06 |
| CRASH26 | hello | 13:07 |
| lordievader | Hey CRASH26 | 13:08 |
| CRASH26 | yes lord | 13:09 |
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| yossarianuk | soee: cheers | 13:27 |
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| lalit | ty c | 15:01 |
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| craig_ | hello | 15:56 |
| anku | hi | 16:19 |
| anku | hey.. how do i add dalnet | 16:20 |
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| smaudet | hey, looking for some help installing kubuntu 13.04 onto efi, getting an error message with grub, can anyone help? its the 'grub-efi package failed to install into /target/' message if that helps any, and its a dualboot (hopefully) system | 17:45 |
| genii | !efi | 17:47 |
| ubottu | UEFI is a specification that defines a software interface between an operating system and platform firmware, it is meant as a replacement for the BIOS. For information on how to set up and install Ubuntu and its derivatives on UEFI machines please read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI | 17:47 |
| smaudet | genii: not helpfull | 17:49 |
| smaudet | its a grub issue - I need something I can do from within the kubuntu livecd | 17:50 |
| smaudet | preferrably | 17:50 |
| smaudet | unless you know how to swap out the grub? | 17:50 |
| genii | smaudet: Unfortunately, currently the (U)EFI is implemented in different ways on different systems, so there is no single approach. And I personally haven't had to deal with it yet, so the best I can do at the moment is offer the canned help of the bot's link. | 17:53 |
| smaudet | genii: then I'm currently more qualified than you to fix this =/ sorry | 17:53 |
| smaudet | genii: after all you don't generally trawl the web for this stuff until you're faced with the problem | 17:54 |
| genii | Yup. | 17:54 |
| smaudet | I was hoping someone might be able to offer light on the grub issue I mentioned, google was no help | 17:55 |
| smaudet | I guess I'll ask in grub if no one here knows | 17:55 |
| smaudet | different question: why is dolphin 'prohibited' from accessing my other partitions...it 'just works' on the official ubuntu cd X_X | 17:59 |
| smaudet | nvm figured it out | 17:59 |
| smaudet | hmm...it LOOKS like the installer worked, it just crapped out on the grub installer. I wonder if its enough to run the grub installer from the live session... | 18:03 |
| smaudet | genii: for future reference, you can obtain efi boot info with a dmesg | grep -i efi | 18:06 |
| smaudet | Gets you vendor, version information | 18:06 |
| smaudet | http://paste.ubuntu.com/6184993/ | 18:11 |
| smaudet | genii: ^ | 18:12 |
| genii | smaudet: Looks like framebuffer issue | 18:12 |
| smaudet | genii: maybe, unrelated to my issue but one decent solution to the efi stuff might be to identify the vendors, looks like my vendor is pretty popular: http://www.insydesw.com/services/engineering-services | 18:16 |
| smaudet | Looks like they're ripping off Ubuntu Touch: http://www.insydesw.com/products/androidsolutions | 18:18 |
| smaudet | So an interesting company to watch nevertheless. | 18:18 |
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| babbarshaer | any good tutorials on linux commands ? | 20:25 |
| chachan | there must be thousands... | 20:28 |
| chachan | just google and find the one fits with you | 20:29 |
| genii | !cli | 20:46 |
| ubottu | The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE). Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal or type in it: man intro | 20:46 |
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| pinotu | !list | 21:33 |
| ubottu | pinotu: No warez here! This is not a file sharing channel (or network); read the channel topic. If you're looking for information about me, type « /msg ubottu !bot ». If you're looking for a channel, see « /msg ubottu !alis ». | 21:33 |
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| smaudet | FYI, you guys need to get on this efibootmgr thing, I've spent nearly 4 hours reading up on efi/why my efi refuses to add a boot an entry, which basically comes down to a lot of complex stuff and a kernel bug or two which is still being worked on. I've added myself to the requisite bug on launchpad to be updated on notifications, but its kinda sad that I feel that I have to resort to using the Windows 8 Bootlaoder configuration too | 21:37 |
| smaudet | Great live CD 13.04 though :) | 21:38 |
| Unit193 | !uefi | This worked well for me. | 21:39 |
| ubottu | This worked well for me.: UEFI is a specification that defines a software interface between an operating system and platform firmware, it is meant as a replacement for the BIOS. For information on how to set up and install Ubuntu and its derivatives on UEFI machines please read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI | 21:39 |
| silverbulleto | guys, a good html/pearl editor for kubuntu? | 21:40 |
| smaudet | *sigh* Unit193: thank you for the canned response - there are various issues, right now I'm not sure if its motherboard BIOS issue, a Windows 8 issue of some sort, or something else - the issue is that this is significant complexity that I didn't want to have to get into, so thank you, but that doesn't help. | 21:44 |
| smaudet | And a less technical user would have given up long ago and simply wiped their drive. | 21:45 |
| nexustwelve | No one needs UEFI. So why not just turn it off? | 21:46 |
| smaudet | nexustwelve: well, because I have a Windows 8 partition (which I don't have to permission to wipe), and I have a bunch of different 'support' partitions - I'm not even sure where the default efi setup is on this crazy HDD X_X | 21:46 |
| nexustwelve | UEFI can usually be disabled in the BIOS. Consider trying it. If Windows complains, just turn it back on. | 21:47 |
| smaudet | I know you can turn off the Windows 8 EFI, but I don't know what that'd do to the rest of the drive, and no, I'm NOT imaging the entire thing just to wipe it. | 21:47 |
| smaudet | nexustwelve: the entire drive is formatted with gpt though, is that even going to work with BIOS? | 21:48 |
| smaudet | I thought it doesn't. | 21:48 |
| nexustwelve | I am not familiar with GPT. | 21:48 |
| smaudet | Right, so basically you're a fish out of water. It'd make sense to go the (very sensible) route of BIOS/MBR if I could, but my hands are tied. | 21:49 |
| smaudet | I suppose a tool to do partition conversion would be nice, maybe as an addition to gparted, but no such tool exists afaik. | 21:50 |
| nexustwelve | If you have USB 3.0, consider just running linux from a USB stick. It would probably still be pretty quick. | 21:50 |
| smaudet | nexustwelve: I have a flash drive and usb 3.0, I'm running kubuntu live as we speak | 21:50 |
| smaudet | Is there a sensible way to persist configuration? | 21:51 |
| nexustwelve | Make the USB stick, persistent with Unetbootin. | 21:51 |
| smaudet | I don't think that is persistent - I'm using Unetbootin | 21:51 |
| smaudet | And I've shut this system on/off several times. | 21:52 |
| smaudet | I have to reconfigure the browser/packages/wifi each time. | 21:52 |
| nexustwelve | On Unetbootin's gui...at the bottom is the section...'Space used to preserve files across reboots'. Just set that to max. | 21:52 |
| smaudet | And yes, the usb is booting off of efi, so its not the efi that's broken, its the kubuntu/linux/efibootmgr thats broken | 21:52 |
| smaudet | nexustwelve: hmm, how about adding space off the internal HDD if I want to do lots of package installs? | 21:53 |
| smaudet | its just a cheapo 8 GB drive | 21:53 |
| nexustwelve | 8GB is more than enough for max persistence. | 21:53 |
| smaudet | nexustwelve: I don't think you understood my question; can I e.g. configure gpt partitions on my HDD to link under e.g. /usr/local/ ? | 21:54 |
| smaudet | So that way I basically have a usb 'key' for booting ubuntu | 21:55 |
| smaudet | all it has is the bootloader and kernel | 21:55 |
| nexustwelve | A general idea could be this...1. Maintain a favorite linux guest VM on Windows. 2. Use something like remastersys to create backups of this VM. 3. Use Unetbootin to create a persistence live USB with this backup image. | 21:55 |
| smaudet | Which would actually be fantastic from the perspective that i could later repartition the HDD when I figure out the efi bootloader and simply move the files from the usb over to the internal hdd | 21:56 |
| nexustwelve | This way you can allow the linux install to evolve and change with your needs...take it anywhere. AND not disturb Windows 7 and it's UEFI drama. | 21:57 |
| nexustwelve | Windows 8* | 21:57 |
| smaudet | nexustwelve: another way of asking since you don't do gpt, would this work: I have 1 primary partition with X logical partitions, and add entries to an /etc/fstab on my usb 3.0 flash drive to those logical partitions? | 21:58 |
| nexustwelve | I do this with great success on my system. It's nice to have my favorite linux setup whereever I go. [like school, friend's houses, etc.] | 21:58 |
| smaudet | (also I don't know that this is a 3.0 usb drive) | 21:59 |
| smaudet | (its just usb, is there a way to check?) | 21:59 |
| nexustwelve | You could go with /etc/fstab...but each boot might not order the HDD partitions the same way each time. | 21:59 |
| nexustwelve | Every partition will show in the file manager...and mount as soon as you click on it anyway. | 22:00 |
| smaudet | nexustwelve: what do you mean? what order? usually you can use UUIDs and just load whatever uuid for that partition | 22:00 |
| nexustwelve | The assignment of /dev/sda might not always be the C: drive in the windows each time. | 22:00 |
| smaudet | e.g. mount 4ea67b4c-fb9e-4029-b486-2cf2dd5e7680 to /usr/local, another uuid to /usr/bin, etc. etc. | 22:01 |
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| nexustwelve | I've not used that method before.[UUID]. If you know it works. Go for it. | 22:02 |
| smaudet | nexustwelve: yeah it should be ok, at the very least I can do some testing and iterate. Thanks for the idea! :D | 22:03 |
| smaudet | (for anyone that's curious this is the bug I'm having: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1167622) | 22:03 |
| ubottu | Ubuntu bug 1173423 in Linux "duplicate for #1167622 Kernel fails to update EFI vars, rendering system unbootable [P8P67 PRO REV 3.1, BIOS 1904 08/15/2011]" [Medium,Confirmed] | 22:03 |
| smaudet | Confirmed and still working on a fix. | 22:04 |
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| petersaints | I installed Kubuntu with Secure Boot off, but I wanted to enable it now. How can I reinstall the bootloader with Secure Boot support? | 22:51 |
| nexustwelve | https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI | 22:53 |
| nexustwelve | About 2/3 the way down the page...'Converting Ubuntu into EFI or Legacy mode' | 22:54 |
| petersaints | Ok. I'll try to use boot repair. I thought that I could just install a grub-efi-secureboot package or something | 22:55 |
| nexustwelve | It looks like once Grub is setup for EFI, you can just turn it on in the BIOS and try booting. | 22:56 |
| nexustwelve | Have everything backed up if possible. | 22:57 |
| nexustwelve | [always] | 22:57 |
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