[00:43] guys, kubuntu 13.04 isn't lts right? === claydoh__ is now known as claydoh [01:36] Xerofyte: To add Widgets to the desktop, just right-click on your desktop and select Add Widgets. [01:38] hello [01:42] Xerofyte: To install widgets, after you select Add Widgets, you should see Get New Widgets, and you can pick from many. [01:51] is Karbon not in Kubuntu anymore? [01:58] !find karbon [01:58] Found: karbon [01:58] !find karbon saucy [02:00] saucy only eh? [02:01] hmm well apt-get install karbon didnt throw an error this time. odd [02:01] so like nevermind! [02:02] !info karbon [02:02] karbon (source: calligra): vector graphics application for the Calligra Suite. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:2.6.3-0ubuntu1 (raring), package size 828 kB, installed size 2514 kB === king is now known as Guest71840 === dormito_ is now known as dormito === soul is now known as Guest34893 [06:30] Hello. Did anybody experienced problem with VPN routing in kde 4.11? KDE does not save PPTP VPN connection (new or existed) if there are changes in routing. === bastard is now known as cuidas === soul is now known as Guest56379 [08:46] hello mates [08:46] i need assistance w/ ur permission [08:46] i've linux lite 2.3.0 w/ ubuntu 12.4 [08:46] is necessary an upgrade to lastest linux distribution? [08:47] any remark will be welcomed [08:47] tnx in advance [08:47] ropeus: Are you experiencing any problems? 12.04 is a LTS release so it should be good for security [08:48] So unless you want new features, there's no reason to fix what is not broken [08:48] yes mate but i use it only for learning by browsing spcific sites [08:49] it is installed on Asus Eee PC 8.9" w. 2 GB Ram & 2 SSD 4GB SLC 16 GB MLC [08:50] Enough for linux i guess [08:51] my friend recommend me to install lastest Ubuntu release [08:51] it is any difference between them when discuss about security ? [08:52] ropeus: as long as it's supported release you should be fine in that [08:53] understood and tnx 4 ur support, guys [08:54] it's my first time when I use this kind of comm , under LINUX S.O 'course [08:54] i hope so I don't disturb U in anyway ... [08:55] ropeus: not at all, this is actually the correct place to ask such questions (: [08:55] ropeus: so basicly your current options are 12.04 and 13.04 releases, 13.10 release will come out later this month [08:55] i see that and thanxs again [08:56] my fault is that I use just for few months this open-source solution [08:58] even I've 44 and I am a cyber forensic expert , retired National Institute Of Forensic Science employer http://www.inec.ro [08:59] and now , CEO of My own ROPEUS INVESTIGATION AGENCY, Microsoft Certified Gold Partner, MSCE and CCNA 3.0 [09:00] but a novice in LINUX Administration :( [09:01] see ya next time .... [09:02] with regards, EUSEBIU PUNGARU - http://ro.linkedin.com/pub/eusebiu-pungaru/13/578/456 [09:24] привет [09:25] i would love to buy new kubuntu t-shirt! :/ [09:25] =) [09:25] but there is so official shop for that right? [09:26] dont know [09:26] *no [09:26] BB [09:37] mparillo, hi, after today's package update everything is ok again [09:40] ppawel: Thank you for the update. Muon update has not yet notified me of 4.11.2 (of course I could apt-get, but I tend not to on Kubuntu; for some reason I now need to on Mint KDE, but that is a story for another channel). Did kwallet come in today's update or do you no longer think that was the root cause? [09:42] mparillo, a lot of packages got updated to 4.11.2 and kwallet started working again. I think the problem was that I got in the middle of kde upgrade yesterday - part of packages was at 4.11.1 and part was updated.. or maybe not [09:42] anyway it works now [09:43] M_Kay: https://holvi.com/shop/Kubuntu/ [09:44] ppawel: Glad to hear it. I will keep that in mind when the 4.11.2 update appears for me. [09:45] nice i didn't know about that :) [09:45] will there be other products in near future? [09:46] i cant war size L :D [09:48] M_Kay: I do not know for certain, but I have lurked and heard some chatter. [09:50] Whoo there are shirts available, should order one soon :D === mzanetti is now known as mzanetti|otp [10:14] Hey folks [10:27] Hi. [10:28] Hey Nerdy [10:28] I recently install a seagate 64mb cache 1tb hard drive into my PC and for some reason I can't quite fathom the installer for kubuntu 13.04 64 bit doesn't recognise the exisiting partition and unallocated space. [10:28] I can mount the partitions and unmount them in the desktop ui. [10:28] But the installer just won't read it properly. [10:29] Never had this issue before. [10:31] It is mbr setup not gpt. [10:31] Nerdy: Was it formated by Windows as a dynamic disk? [10:31] Nope. [10:31] I did shrink the hard drive down in windows but that has never had this knock on effect before with Linux OS's. === mzanetti|otp is now known as mzanetti [10:36] ST1000DM003 [10:36] Seagate hdd. [12:07] Good afternoon. [12:22] is 13.10 going to ship with latest KDE version - i.e 4.11.2 ? [12:23] and will it follow 4.11.x updates ? (as 4.11 is an LTS version of KDE) [13:03] yossarianuk, yes [13:03] this is going to be main KDE version i think, and than newer will land in saucy backports [13:06] hello [13:07] hello [13:08] Hey CRASH26 [13:09] yes lord === soul is now known as Guest31373 === spawn[dead] is now known as spawn57 [13:27] soee: cheers === Freejack is now known as Guest28799 === Guest28799 is now known as Freejack_ [15:01] ty c === christian is now known as Guest99223 === Guest99223 is now known as crodriguez [15:56] hello [16:19] hi [16:20] hey.. how do i add dalnet === spawn57 is now known as spawn[dead] [17:45] hey, looking for some help installing kubuntu 13.04 onto efi, getting an error message with grub, can anyone help? its the 'grub-efi package failed to install into /target/' message if that helps any, and its a dualboot (hopefully) system [17:47] !efi [17:47] UEFI is a specification that defines a software interface between an operating system and platform firmware, it is meant as a replacement for the BIOS. For information on how to set up and install Ubuntu and its derivatives on UEFI machines please read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI [17:49] genii: not helpfull [17:50] its a grub issue - I need something I can do from within the kubuntu livecd [17:50] preferrably [17:50] unless you know how to swap out the grub? [17:53] smaudet: Unfortunately, currently the (U)EFI is implemented in different ways on different systems, so there is no single approach. And I personally haven't had to deal with it yet, so the best I can do at the moment is offer the canned help of the bot's link. [17:53] genii: then I'm currently more qualified than you to fix this =/ sorry [17:54] genii: after all you don't generally trawl the web for this stuff until you're faced with the problem [17:54] Yup. [17:55] I was hoping someone might be able to offer light on the grub issue I mentioned, google was no help [17:55] I guess I'll ask in grub if no one here knows [17:59] different question: why is dolphin 'prohibited' from accessing my other partitions...it 'just works' on the official ubuntu cd X_X [17:59] nvm figured it out [18:03] hmm...it LOOKS like the installer worked, it just crapped out on the grub installer. I wonder if its enough to run the grub installer from the live session... [18:06] genii: for future reference, you can obtain efi boot info with a dmesg | grep -i efi [18:06] Gets you vendor, version information [18:11] http://paste.ubuntu.com/6184993/ [18:12] genii: ^ [18:12] smaudet: Looks like framebuffer issue [18:16] genii: maybe, unrelated to my issue but one decent solution to the efi stuff might be to identify the vendors, looks like my vendor is pretty popular: http://www.insydesw.com/services/engineering-services [18:18] Looks like they're ripping off Ubuntu Touch: http://www.insydesw.com/products/androidsolutions [18:18] So an interesting company to watch nevertheless. === effchen is now known as effchen_flux === ss_ is now known as swiatos [20:25] any good tutorials on linux commands ? [20:28] there must be thousands... [20:29] just google and find the one fits with you [20:46] !cli [20:46] The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE). Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal or type in it: man intro === awwyissssss is now known as nexustwelve === cyberl3o_ is now known as cyberl3o_away === christian is now known as Guest52422 [21:33] !list [21:33] pinotu: No warez here! This is not a file sharing channel (or network); read the channel topic. If you're looking for information about me, type « /msg ubottu !bot ». If you're looking for a channel, see « /msg ubottu !alis ». === fitoria_ is now known as fitoria [21:37] FYI, you guys need to get on this efibootmgr thing, I've spent nearly 4 hours reading up on efi/why my efi refuses to add a boot an entry, which basically comes down to a lot of complex stuff and a kernel bug or two which is still being worked on. I've added myself to the requisite bug on launchpad to be updated on notifications, but its kinda sad that I feel that I have to resort to using the Windows 8 Bootlaoder configuration too [21:38] Great live CD 13.04 though :) [21:39] !uefi | This worked well for me. [21:39] This worked well for me.: UEFI is a specification that defines a software interface between an operating system and platform firmware, it is meant as a replacement for the BIOS. For information on how to set up and install Ubuntu and its derivatives on UEFI machines please read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI [21:40] guys, a good html/pearl editor for kubuntu? [21:44] *sigh* Unit193: thank you for the canned response - there are various issues, right now I'm not sure if its motherboard BIOS issue, a Windows 8 issue of some sort, or something else - the issue is that this is significant complexity that I didn't want to have to get into, so thank you, but that doesn't help. [21:45] And a less technical user would have given up long ago and simply wiped their drive. [21:46] No one needs UEFI. So why not just turn it off? [21:46] nexustwelve: well, because I have a Windows 8 partition (which I don't have to permission to wipe), and I have a bunch of different 'support' partitions - I'm not even sure where the default efi setup is on this crazy HDD X_X [21:47] UEFI can usually be disabled in the BIOS. Consider trying it. If Windows complains, just turn it back on. [21:47] I know you can turn off the Windows 8 EFI, but I don't know what that'd do to the rest of the drive, and no, I'm NOT imaging the entire thing just to wipe it. [21:48] nexustwelve: the entire drive is formatted with gpt though, is that even going to work with BIOS? [21:48] I thought it doesn't. [21:48] I am not familiar with GPT. [21:49] Right, so basically you're a fish out of water. It'd make sense to go the (very sensible) route of BIOS/MBR if I could, but my hands are tied. [21:50] I suppose a tool to do partition conversion would be nice, maybe as an addition to gparted, but no such tool exists afaik. [21:50] If you have USB 3.0, consider just running linux from a USB stick. It would probably still be pretty quick. [21:50] nexustwelve: I have a flash drive and usb 3.0, I'm running kubuntu live as we speak [21:51] Is there a sensible way to persist configuration? [21:51] Make the USB stick, persistent with Unetbootin. [21:51] I don't think that is persistent - I'm using Unetbootin [21:52] And I've shut this system on/off several times. [21:52] I have to reconfigure the browser/packages/wifi each time. [21:52] On Unetbootin's gui...at the bottom is the section...'Space used to preserve files across reboots'. Just set that to max. [21:52] And yes, the usb is booting off of efi, so its not the efi that's broken, its the kubuntu/linux/efibootmgr thats broken [21:53] nexustwelve: hmm, how about adding space off the internal HDD if I want to do lots of package installs? [21:53] its just a cheapo 8 GB drive [21:53] 8GB is more than enough for max persistence. [21:54] nexustwelve: I don't think you understood my question; can I e.g. configure gpt partitions on my HDD to link under e.g. /usr/local/ ? [21:55] So that way I basically have a usb 'key' for booting ubuntu [21:55] all it has is the bootloader and kernel [21:55] A general idea could be this...1. Maintain a favorite linux guest VM on Windows. 2. Use something like remastersys to create backups of this VM. 3. Use Unetbootin to create a persistence live USB with this backup image. [21:56] Which would actually be fantastic from the perspective that i could later repartition the HDD when I figure out the efi bootloader and simply move the files from the usb over to the internal hdd [21:57] This way you can allow the linux install to evolve and change with your needs...take it anywhere. AND not disturb Windows 7 and it's UEFI drama. [21:57] Windows 8* [21:58] nexustwelve: another way of asking since you don't do gpt, would this work: I have 1 primary partition with X logical partitions, and add entries to an /etc/fstab on my usb 3.0 flash drive to those logical partitions? [21:58] I do this with great success on my system. It's nice to have my favorite linux setup whereever I go. [like school, friend's houses, etc.] [21:59] (also I don't know that this is a 3.0 usb drive) [21:59] (its just usb, is there a way to check?) [21:59] You could go with /etc/fstab...but each boot might not order the HDD partitions the same way each time. [22:00] Every partition will show in the file manager...and mount as soon as you click on it anyway. [22:00] nexustwelve: what do you mean? what order? usually you can use UUIDs and just load whatever uuid for that partition [22:00] The assignment of /dev/sda might not always be the C: drive in the windows each time. [22:01] e.g. mount 4ea67b4c-fb9e-4029-b486-2cf2dd5e7680 to /usr/local, another uuid to /usr/bin, etc. etc. === Jikan is now known as Jikai [22:02] I've not used that method before.[UUID]. If you know it works. Go for it. [22:03] nexustwelve: yeah it should be ok, at the very least I can do some testing and iterate. Thanks for the idea! :D [22:03] (for anyone that's curious this is the bug I'm having: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1167622) [22:03] Ubuntu bug 1173423 in Linux "duplicate for #1167622 Kernel fails to update EFI vars, rendering system unbootable [P8P67 PRO REV 3.1, BIOS 1904 08/15/2011]" [Medium,Confirmed] [22:04] Confirmed and still working on a fix. === Jikai is now known as Jikan === Guest52422 is now known as crodriguez [22:51] I installed Kubuntu with Secure Boot off, but I wanted to enable it now. How can I reinstall the bootloader with Secure Boot support? [22:53] https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI [22:54] About 2/3 the way down the page...'Converting Ubuntu into EFI or Legacy mode' [22:55] Ok. I'll try to use boot repair. I thought that I could just install a grub-efi-secureboot package or something [22:56] It looks like once Grub is setup for EFI, you can just turn it on in the BIOS and try booting. [22:57] Have everything backed up if possible. [22:57] [always] === GiGaHuRtZ is now known as Guest67303