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Guest10015Hi02:36
Guest10015I would like to appeal my ban from #ubuntu-offtopic02:36
PiciGuest10015: why?02:49
Guest10015Pici, why what?02:49
PiciGuest10015: Why do you want to be unbanned?02:49
Guest10015I was told to take a cooling off period and come back when I felt like I could follow the rules02:49
Guest10015I think I can do that now02:50
Guest10015Pici,02:52
Guest10015?02:52
PiciI don't feel comfortable unbanning you at this time.02:52
Guest10015why02:52
PiciYour history speaks volumes.02:52
Guest10015I've changed and I would like a chance to demonstrate that02:52
Guest10015Pici,02:53
Piciyes?02:53
Guest10015I would like a chance to demonstrate that I've changed02:54
PiciI don't think you have. You've demonstrated the inability to follow simple channel guidelines on a number of occasions, and I have no reason to believe that you will follow through this time.02:54
Guest10015so at what point do you decide that I will be able to follow the channel guidelines?02:55
Guest10015How can you know if you don't give me anymore chances02:55
Guest10015Pici,02:55
PiciI can infer from your behavior in other non-ubuntu channels that you can't follow their rules.02:56
Guest10015which channels?02:56
Guest10015I was behaving just fine in #ubuntu today02:56
PiciNot really.02:58
PiciI think we're done here.02:58
Guest10015how long until i can be unbanned03:00
Guest10015i miss my irc friends03:00
Guest10015and the sense of community03:00
Guest10015Pici,03:11
Guest10015Pici,03:13
Guest10015please respond03:13
Guest10015LjL,03:15
Guest10015hi03:15
Guest10015how do i get voice like you?03:15
ubottuFloodBot1 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (repeated abuse from Psil0Cybin)04:39
IdleOne!nomir is <reply> for more information about why Mir will not be included as default in ubuntu 13.10 see http://fridge.ubuntu.com/2013/10/01/xmir-update-for-ubuntu-13-10/ and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Mir/13.10/NoDefaultQ%26A15:32
ubottuI'll remember that, IdleOne15:32
geniiHm.15:33
geniiSo they're staying with xorg right now, or wayland, or what?15:33
IdleOnewith X yeah15:33
Picik1l_: heh15:34
k1l_i think its sad. mir/xmir could need some testing before 14.04 gets lts15:34
IdleOneyou can test it, it just won't be default15:35
k1l_im not talking about the devs testing it. i mean that the bright usergroup could test it15:35
IdleOnethey can15:36
IdleOneit is already in the 13.10 repos15:36
IdleOneshould try reading those links :)15:37
IdleOnethe second link specifically15:37
k1l_IdleOne: i know15:38
IdleOneok so I don't understand what you mean then15:38
k1l_but i mean that not only the few voluntary testers help with bug reports but all the users.15:38
k1l_there are alot of different setups and usecases that get not tested if its not default, imho15:39
IdleOnetesting should be done by users who are aware of the possible lack of features and shiny. Not by all the users who then yell and scream how Ubuntu and Canonical suck because they shipped something that wasn't near ready for primetime15:39
IdleOneI see this is one of the first responsible moves Canonical has done in a while.15:40
k1l_im talking about making it from stable to rocksolid15:40
geniiHeh15:40
k1l_i dont want to spread alpha software as default15:40
* k1l_ afk15:41
Myrttiso tempted to say "so is Dumbledore"15:46
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bazhang<sergiudev> i must enter my password 20 times21:20
bazhangtroll detected21:20
geniibazhang: I got to go do some work, so won't be around to boot if required21:24
bazhang:)21:25
IdleOneI don't like the answer you gave me so I will ignore it and repeat my question21:34
bazhangwe need 3D blinking ascii in such cases21:37
* genii ponders no, list is <reply> Ciao! This is not a file sharing channel (or network); read the channel topic. If you need information about me, type « /msg ubottu !bot ». If searching for a channel, see « /msg ubottu !alis ». Per l'italiano, fare riferimento al !it21:40
IdleOneThat idea has been suggested before and refused21:41
IdleOnein +1 did waldenista join twice with the same nick. I did not see them leave befoee the second join21:42
geniiIdleOne: I guess it makes it look like we're picking on the Italians :-/21:42
IdleOnenow my client says he left the channel but he is still there21:42
IdleOnegenii: it does21:43
IdleOneoh, nevermind diff. nicks21:43
LjLgenii: well are you? yes i'm asking you, are you?21:44
geniiHehehe21:44
geniiLjL: It's only ever really the Italians that are using the !list so.... probably, yes21:44
LjLgenii: still, whatever these people are interested in, it's not Ubuntu support, be it in English or Italian, so !it doesn't really help a whole lot21:46
LjLand the -it folks wouldn't really be happy at us redirecting those people there, at all21:46
geniiAh, good point.21:47
Unit193IdleOne: I don't think it's considered "picking on" if they're pretty much the only ones that *ever* call it.  Just a more proper target.  It's not picking on when you do !es is it? ;)22:00
geniiWe might as well just alias !hola to !es .... <runs away>22:02
IdleOnethe point is that people who egt sent the !warez trigger are not looking for ubuntu support and targeting Italians because the majority happen to be Italian is not right22:30
IdleOneget*22:31
IdleOnedinner22:31
geniiWe, guess I should get headed home, face-off is like 40 minutes from now22:32

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