[01:30] <brousch1> rick_h_: http://www.flickr.com/photos/brousch/sets/72157636102863644/with/10046522396/
[01:55] <rick_h_> brousch1: :)
[01:57] <rick_h_> brousch1: have a good time there?
[01:57] <brousch1> Yeah. A lot of good wines
[01:58] <brousch1> And chocolate
[01:58] <rick_h_> yea, we're a wine and chocolate vs wine and cheese couple
[01:59] <brousch1> My wife likes mostly sweet wines, so that's mostly what we bought
[02:02] <rick_h_> brousch1: cool, mostly whites?
[02:03] <brousch1> yeah
[02:03] <brousch1> Got an incredible mulled red wine from Fenn Valley though
[02:11] <brousch1> Hm. I was wrong. 4 whites, 2 blush, 7 red
[03:05] <cmaloney>  You can't go wrong with mulled wine
[03:05] <cmaloney> unless it makes you sick.
[12:10] <rick_h_> morning
[12:11] <brousch1> yes
[12:11] <brousch1> Feels like a Monday
[12:11] <rick_h_> yea, kind of does
[12:23] <cmaloney> Good morning
[12:59] <rick_h_> hah, wifi network upgrades ftw!
[12:59] <rick_h_> cleaners are here so I can just go wait out in the camper and still have good wifi
[13:01] <cmaloney> Nice!
[13:04] <cmaloney> You on AC or N?
[13:04] <rick_h_> N
[13:04] <cmaloney> Also, <3 Prestige
[13:04] <rick_h_> I added a second router in AP mode upstairs so that reaches out into the front yard now more. For sitting on the porch and such
[13:05] <rick_h_> lol, yea they show up fast in their little vancs
[13:05] <cmaloney> Dude delivered some CDs and a toner cartridge like he was Santa Claus on a tear
[13:05] <rick_h_> lol
[13:18] <rick_h_> woot http://r.bmark.us/u/bee197af28b46b go chromecast go
[13:20] <brousch1> I can't wait for local media streaming
[13:21] <rick_h_> I don't much much local stuff so for me it's all about the apps updating. Hulu was one more roku did that chromecast didn't.
[13:21] <rick_h_> The only one now is AMZ that roku does but I don't think it'll get to chromecase since it's not on android :(
[13:22] <brousch1> I thought chromecast already did amazon video
[13:22] <rick_h_> nope
[13:23] <rick_h_> roku doens't do google play video or youtube and chromecast doesn't do AMZ
[13:23] <rick_h_> roku also has the for pay stuff like baseball if you do that
[13:24] <rick_h_> but really I just need my netflix, google play, youtube, and hulu for the wife
[13:24] <rick_h_> and trying to migrate off AMZ (which sucks, bought lots of disney stuff for the boy on there)
[13:25] <brousch1> Can you download it and free it?
[13:25] <rick_h_> probably some way, but more work than it's worth
[13:27] <brousch1> Meh. You won't care about Disney in 5 years anyways
[13:28] <rick_h_> yea, he's watching different stuff from the google play store atm
[13:28] <rick_h_> and I tend to stick my stuff on there so I can tablet it on travels and camping trips anyway
[13:29] <brousch1> George just watches youtube these days
[13:29] <brousch1> And a little netflix
[13:30] <brousch1> He has the semi-animate Dr Seuss books for offline
[13:30] <rick_h_> yea, we try to do offline books all the time. Working through the pooh book right now
[13:30] <rick_h_> nice big lots of stories
[13:30] <rick_h_> and can reinforce with a movie on weekends
[13:31] <brousch1> Do you get the kid's LEGO magazine?
[13:31] <brousch1> That's like his Playboy
[13:32] <rick_h_> lol, no. We're waiting for christmas/birthday for lego
[13:32] <rick_h_> otherwise daddy will break his wallet and then erica will get angry
[13:33] <rick_h_> and every year people are asking what he's into. We did play-doh one year, animals this past year, and lego is this year
[13:34] <brousch1> He really likes the people. So every time I go grocery shopping we get one of those little mystery person packages
[13:35] <brousch1> He remembers which head belongs to who. I have no idea how he does that.
[13:35] <rick_h_> nice
[13:36] <brousch1> We must have 100 people by now
[13:37] <brousch1> Did anyone else get in on http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/danshapiro/robot-turtles-the-board-game-for-little-programmer ?
[13:40] <rick_h_> I looked at it but decided not to for now
[13:40] <rick_h_> We're still working on getting into basic games as it is
[13:41] <brousch1> Some of the LEGO games can be fun too
[13:41] <brousch1> We too the minotaur game and added a bunch of our own new features when it got boring
[13:42] <brousch1> http://shop.lego.com/en-US/Minotaurus-3841
[13:43] <brousch1> We added another die, equipment for the little guys (helmets, spears, night-vision goggles) and a Theseus to chase the minotaur
[13:52] <cmaloney> I have that game
[13:52] <cmaloney> They're really cool for creativity
[13:52] <cmaloney> and lots of little pieces for game design
[13:52] <brousch1> We took apart the lego walk the plank game for some of the pieces
[13:54] <cmaloney> Meijer had some of those games on clearance
[13:55] <brousch1> yeah, i always get stuff on clearance at meijer
[13:55] <cmaloney> Picked up http://boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/94734/heroica-nathuz
[13:57] <cmaloney> I thought they might be interesting to use for RPGs as well. :)
[13:57] <brousch1> I got 3 of these 379-piece kits for like $20 each http://www.hasbro.com/kre-o/en_US/shop/details.cfm?R=6CF1B564-5056-900B-1018-5814FF887EB8:en_US
[13:58] <cmaloney> Yeah, those seem to go on clearance pretty rapidly
[13:59] <brousch1> 379 pieces for $20. I nearly crapped myself
[14:08] <cmaloney> http://events.leukemiamichigan.org/site/MessageViewer?em_id=4441.0&dlv_id=8021
[14:08] <cmaloney> brousch1 ^^
[14:09] <cmaloney> My dad and I have done
[14:10] <brousch1> I have GiveCamp that weekend :(
[14:10] <cmaloney> Do both. :)
[14:11] <cmaloney> Trust me, getting all the Black Note you can stagger is worth it
[14:11] <brousch1> I can't do both. GiveCamp is like a 3 day sprint
[14:11] <cmaloney> It's like Dragon's Milk
[15:08] <greg-g> g'early-morn
[15:08] <greg-g> well, it's 8, but been up since 5:40, after a 4:30 wake up from Rowan who thought it was time to be up for the day (laughing and trying to play)
[15:12] <cmaloney> Woo woo
[15:53] <jrwren> make dependency already exist but make is building it   :(
[16:17] <rick_h_> not for me, but this is kind of cool http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/701992503/the-worlds-only-earbuds-with-no-strings-attached
[16:27] <jrwren> rick_h_: when you have a minute, I need gnu make help.
[16:27] <jrwren> https://github.com/lucab/adns/blob/upstream/1.2/Makefile exactly the Makefile i have.
[16:28] <jrwren> in my case, the build server doesn't have lynx, so I think, no problem, I'll just touch README.html so that the README target doesn't need to run. This doens't work, can you suggest why?
[16:28] <rick_h_> jrwren: because README is .PHONY. It doesn't exist. It depends on README.html, but it's not limited to it
[16:29] <rick_h_> it's always going to get run no matter what because there's no physical target on disk for it to check/verify hasn't changed since last run
[16:29] <jrwren> like by default?   .PHONY: install is in the file
[16:29] <rick_h_> jrwren: well, README should be labeled .PHONY as well
[16:29] <jrwren> i just touched README.html, so it does exist on disk, with a current date.
[16:29] <jrwren> oh!
[16:29] <rick_h_> anything that's not a real target should be .PHONY
[16:30] <rick_h_> jrwren: right, but you need to look at it from the other direction
[16:30] <jrwren> got it.
[16:30] <rick_h_> install-here says "Before I can run, README must be run"
[16:30] <jrwren> thank you
[16:30] <rick_h_> then README says "Before I can run, readme.html must be there...oh it is cool...I'll run now"
[16:30] <jrwren> *nod*
[16:30] <jrwren> i wasn't thinking of the target as a possible file too.
[16:31] <jrwren> to many phonys
[16:31] <jrwren> i should have touched both README and README.html
[16:31] <rick_h_> honestly, README should have a dep on /bin/lynx and then install it if it's not there
[16:31] <rick_h_> or lynx should be an xdg-open to use whatever browser is available
[16:31] <jrwren> agree.
[16:33] <jrwren> huge thanks rick_h_, i wasn't seeing that side of it.
[16:34] <rick_h_> jrwren: cool
[16:45] <rick_h_> booo, no daily show over lunch. The videos from yesterday all come up "Sorry this video is unavailable" :(
[16:47] <jrwren> blame government shutdown
[16:47] <rick_h_> yea! sounds good to me
[18:15] <rick_h_> going to be heading down to CHC early if anyone else is bored. Probably get some potbelly for dinner.
[18:16] <brousch1> Get some for me too
[18:16] <rick_h_> will do
[18:18] <cmaloney> Dammit, the humble bundle added Karateka + the ebook on the making-of
[18:18] <cmaloney> the one that I accidentally picked up when I was looking to pick up the Prince of Persia "making-of" book.
[18:20] <cmaloney> rick_h_: Want some company for the Potbelly run?
[18:22] <rick_h_> cmaloney: if you're around, sure thing
[18:23] <cmaloney> What time are you heading over there?
[18:23] <rick_h_> cmaloney: I can ping hwen I leave if that works. I've got to swing by the pet store on my way down so not 100% sure on time there
[18:23] <cmaloney> kk
[18:23] <rick_h_> probably around 6pm ish
[18:24] <cmaloney> Sounds like a plan.
[18:33] <cmaloney> http://www.jwz.org/blog/2013/10/mobile-web-design-the-reign-of-morons-indeed/
[20:53] <jrwren> and wtf would JWZ know about it?
[20:53] <jrwren>  software he has written in last 10 yrs? next to none.
[20:54] <jrwren>  clubs he has owned and operated: one :)
[20:54] <jrwren> he should write about what he knows.
[21:47] <jrwren> omg, just noticed this code is using psycopg, not even psycopg2
[23:22] <cmaloney> Evening
[23:22] <cmaloney> jrwren: He still maintains XScreensaver
[23:22] <cmaloney> and has ported daliclock to several modern platforms
[23:23] <cmaloney> also: Even mainframe programmers can say something is wrong with the modern web. ;)
[23:43] <jrwren> anyone can say it, but they certainly wouldn't know anything about it :)
[23:48] <jrwren> the article is fine, the sensationalist slug is what annoyed me
[23:53] <rick_h_> https://github.com/joelcarranza/particular-pinboard kind of cool
[23:55] <rick_h_> http://shawnblanc.net/2013/09/pinboard-guide/ was the blog post I was peeking at that was cool