[06:15] <Squirm> morning
[06:15] <Trixar_za> Morning Squirm
[06:15] <Trixar_za> I should get over my passive agressiveness
[06:16] <Trixar_za> http://forum.slitaz.org/topic/forum-registration#post-26877
[06:16] <Trixar_za> hehehe
[06:16] <Squirm> lol
[06:16] <Squirm> sucktaz
[06:16] <Squirm> :P
[06:17] <Squirm> I like that
[06:17] <Squirm> has a nice ring to it... sucktaz
[06:34] <ThatGraemeGuy> morning peoples
[06:37] <Squirm> morning
[06:44] <superfly> morning all
[06:47] <Kilos> morning superfly and others
[06:47] <superfly> hi Kilos
[07:00] <inetpro> good morning
[07:00] <Kilos> morning inetpro 
[07:10] <ThatGraemeGuy> anyone using kmail?
[07:10] <Kilos> hi ThatGraemeGuy it dont work
[07:11] <ThatGraemeGuy> eh? o_O
[07:13] <Kilos> i think the fly also said it sucks
[07:14] <Kilos> i go feed sheep
[07:17] <ThatGraemeGuy> baa!
[07:17] <ThatGraemeGuy> going to use thunderbird instead
[07:24] <Kilos> hi liamT welcome to ubuntu-za
[07:24] <Kilos> yip everyone uses thunderbird i think ThatGraemeGuy 
[07:25] <Kilos> hi bduk1 
[07:25] <liamT> thanks Kilos
[07:54] <liamT> Kilos: I use Sylpheed at the moment
[08:01] <Kilos> what is that liamT ?
[08:02] <Kilos> Maaz, google Sylpheed
[08:02] <Maaz> Kilos: "Sylpheed - lightweight and user-friendly e-mail client" http://sylpheed.sraoss.jp/en/ :: "Download - Sylpheed - lightweight and user-friendly e-mail client" http://sylpheed.sraoss.jp/en/download.html :: "Sylpheed - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sylpheed :: "Project Sylpheed - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia"
[08:02] <Maaz> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_Sylpheed :: "Claws Mail - the email client that bites!" http://www.…
[08:03] <liamT> Came into the conversation late, thought you were talking about Thunderbird
[08:03] <Kilos> ah a mail client
[08:03] <Kilos> yeah we were
[08:03] <Kilos> because kmail dont work
[08:04] <Kilos> on what OS liamT ?
[08:04] <liamT> Ubuntu 12.10
[08:04] <liamT> running xfce
[08:04] <Kilos> hehe you like xfce?
[08:04] <Kilos> i didnt enjoy it much
[08:05] <Kilos> got used to unity and kde on 12.04
[08:05] <liamT> with the Mint customisation, I thought it was fine, I'm done with animations and fading eating my computer
[08:06] <liamT> I have work to do
[08:06] <Kilos> yeah thats why i stayed on 12.04
[08:07] <Kilos> 13.04 drove me nuts
[08:07] <Kilos> or more nuts should i say
[08:08] <liamT> i took a large performance hit with 12.10 and beyond on Unity, and the difficulty of tweaking simple things made me switch
[08:08] <liamT> my computer is old, but decently spec'd
[08:09] <Kilos> dual core?
[08:09] <Kilos> what do you mean by spec'd?
[08:10] <Kilos> how does one do that
[08:10] <liamT> yip, 4gb  ram, nvidia
[08:10] <liamT> decent specifications (spec'd)
[08:10] <Kilos> ah ! i battle to find ram for mine that doesnt class with what i go
[08:10] <Kilos> got
[08:11] <Kilos> so 1.5gB ram
[08:11] <mazal> Oom Kilos can you still get more nuts ?
[08:11] <Kilos> haha hi there mazal 
[08:11] <mazal> hehehe , more oom :)
[08:12] <Kilos> môre mazal wen jy darem
[08:12] <mazal> Uhm...die lys is lank ook..oom gaan meer spesifiek moet wees :P
[08:26] <Kilos> haha met die werk goed man
[08:49] <Kilos> hi psyatw 
[08:49] <psyatw> hi Kilos
[09:54] <nuvolari> o/
[09:54] <nuvolari> hi oom Kilos 
[09:54] <Kilos> lo nuvolari 
[10:28] <nuvolari> hoe gaan dit oom Kilos?
[10:29] <Kilos> goed dankie en self nuvolari ?
[10:44] <Kilos> hmm... Sylpheed seems to work ok ThatGraemeGuy 
[10:44] <Kilos> more manual setting up than thunderbird though
[10:45] <ThatGraemeGuy> meh
[10:45] <ThatGraemeGuy> thunderbird is fine, i'm not terribly picky
[10:46] <ThatGraemeGuy> kmail decided i was in a timezone 1 hour ahead of where i actually am
[10:46] <ThatGraemeGuy> and i couldn't a @%$# figure out why
[10:47] <ThatGraemeGuy> kde is set to GMT+2, thunderbird sets the sent time as GMT+2, kmail decides the sent time is GMT+3
[10:50] <Kilos> lol
[10:52] <Kilos> Sylpheed is more light weight so good on my pc
[10:52] <Kilos> opens very quick
[10:54] <Kilos> Maaz, tell liamT on freenode thanks sylpheed works fine here
[10:54] <Maaz> Kilos: Got it, I'll tell liamT on freenode
[10:59] <mazal> ai ja jai
[11:00] <mazal> oom waar was ons laas ?
[11:00] <mazal> Toe raak dit besig
[11:49] <nuvolari> dit gaan goed dankie oom Kilos 
[11:49] <nuvolari> besig
[12:07] <Kilos> hi nlsthzn 
[12:07] <nlsthzn> how are you uncle Kilos ?
[12:08] <Kilos> good ty nlsthzn  and you?
[12:08] <nlsthzn> good thanks.. at home so that is always good :)
[12:08] <Kilos> hehe
[12:12] <nuvolari> oh hi ntl
[12:12] <nuvolari> er
[12:12] <nuvolari> nlsthzn: 
[12:13] <nlsthzn> lol
[12:13] <nlsthzn> hiya nuvolari :)
[12:20] <Trixar_za> That so brings out the OC part of me
[12:20] <Trixar_za> Maintaining and creating
[12:20] <Trixar_za> Should be the other way around imho
[12:20] <superfly> hi henkj :-)
[12:20] <superfly> Trixar_za: eh?
[12:21] <Trixar_za> the clug-work email thing
[12:21] <superfly> oh
[12:21] <superfly> I didn't bother reading it
[12:21] <Trixar_za> Somebody wrote Maintaining and creating documentation
[12:21] <superfly> saw the subject, and I was like "no thanks"
[12:22] <Trixar_za> Yeah and I read the first paragraph and said "no thanks" - it mentions it's a Windows position with Linux/MacOS experience
[12:23] <Trixar_za> Mind you, it's not as bad as some of the stuff I've seen
[12:23] <superfly> I knew that without opening the mail ;-)
[12:23] <Trixar_za> Like requiring 3 year experience in Windows 7 (this was a few months after it was released)
[12:24] <superfly> ah yes, I thought so... voss
[12:24] <nlsthzn> some people would say any experience in windows feels like a life time
[12:24] <superfly> you don't want to work there
[12:25] <Trixar_za> Dare I ask why not?
[12:28] <superfly> They spontaneously decide "Oh, this week we'll be working 9am to 9pm, you don't have a choice. Either you work, or you're out of a job."
[12:30] <Trixar_za> "and we're not paying you overtime"
[12:30] <Trixar_za> so I assume
[12:30] <Trixar_za> :p
[12:45] <mazal> Enjoy your evening everyone
[12:45] <mazal> Cheers
[13:19] <superfly> Trixar_za: yes, that too
[14:04] <Kilos> what does this mean please
[14:04] <Kilos> E: /var/cache/apt/archives/libglapi-mesa_8.0.4-0ubuntu0.6_i386.deb: subprocess dpkg-deb --control returned error exit status 2
[14:04] <Kilos> ive deleted the file in archives and did a reinstall but same error
[14:07] <Trixar_za> What happens if you do apt-get clean and apt-get autoremove ?
[14:07] <tumbleweed> apt-get clean removes cached downloaded debs
[14:08] <tumbleweed> oh, you're offering support
[14:08]  * tumbleweed goes waay
[14:12] <Squirm> woop
[14:12] <Squirm> http://www.wunderground.com/weatherstation/WXDailyHistory.asp?ID=IKWAZULU37
[14:12] <Squirm> that's our weather station
[14:12]  * Squirm prods Trixar_za 
[14:12] <tumbleweed> neat
[14:13] <Trixar_za> Cool
[14:16] <Squirm> it's running weewx - OpenSource weather software, seemingly written in python. It does it's own logging/graphing, but then also reports the stats to a set few weather sites(I only knew wunderground, so never set up the others)
[14:16] <Squirm> setup on a Raspberry Pi
[14:16] <Squirm> also trying to get a webcam working, so every 10min I can upload an image of the thing they call, "Outside"
[14:40] <Kilos> Trixar_za, i dont want to empty the cache but i deleted the faulty one and tried a reinstall of that file
[14:41] <Kilos> so then it shoulda downloaded a new one right?
[14:42] <Kilos> it downloaded something but too quick to watch
[14:42] <Trixar_za> http://askubuntu.com/questions/148383/how-to-resolve-dpkg-error-processing-var-cache-apt-archives-python-apport-2-0
[14:43] <Kilos> lemme go see
[14:43] <Trixar_za> It's probably what I think it is
[14:43] <Trixar_za> The repository probably updated with a change to that package
[14:44] <Trixar_za> So updating the package list and cleaning the cache should clear the problem
[14:44] <Kilos> i have done update/upgrade so packages should be up to date now
[14:44] <Kilos> and there is only one version of that file
[14:45] <Trixar_za> then try the second suggestion
[14:46] <Kilos> doesnt auto-remove get rid of everything?
[14:46] <Kilos> in archives?
[14:46] <Trixar_za> No, it just removes the packages that aren't needed anymore. Clean removes the cache
[14:46] <Kilos> aha ty
[14:47] <Trixar_za> As for the bug, it's probably not the package itself
[14:47] <Trixar_za> It could be that one of the other packages in the cache itself is referencing that package as a requirement
[14:48] <Kilos> aha
[14:48] <Trixar_za> And if I know debian repositories, they sometimes change the name or requirements as they come and go
[14:49] <Kilos> this is all it wants to remove
[14:49] <Kilos> linux-image-3.2.0-51-generic-pae
[14:56] <Kilos> what does that file do? it still gives errors
[14:57] <Kilos> The Mesa GL API module is responsible for dispatching all the gl*
[14:57] <Kilos> functions. It is intended to be mainly used by both the libgles1-mesa
[14:57] <Kilos> and libgles2-mesa packages.
[14:57] <Kilos> thats what synaptic says it does
[14:59] <Kilos> lemme try gdebi
[15:05] <Kilos> aptitude fixed it
[17:54] <Kilos> aw you okes dont welcome noobies
[17:56] <Kilos> superfly, have a look at sylpheed, it looks better than thunderbird so far, or am i missing something
[17:58] <theblazehen> hi guys! Tell me if this is a bad idea: Basically see which ASM commands are used most often, then only have those, and ones that can't be done from combinations of those on the chip, then emulate x86 on it
[17:58] <Kilos> hi theblazehen 
[17:58] <theblazehen> hi Kilos 
[18:15] <superfly> theblazehen: for what?
[18:16] <theblazehen> superfly, want to try and make procesor faster
[18:16] <theblazehen> But found that it's already being used
[18:16] <theblazehen> microcode
[18:18] <superfly> theblazehen: a processor you mean?
[18:19] <superfly> are you talking about a CPU or a program?
[18:19] <theblazehen> superfly, a processor
[18:19] <theblazehen> CPU
[18:20] <superfly> theblazehen: WAYTTD
[18:20] <theblazehen> superfly, WAYTTD?
[18:20] <superfly> Maaz: WAYTTD
[18:20] <Maaz> superfly: WAYTTD is What Are You Trying To Do?
[18:20] <superfly> Maaz: it doesn't work
[18:20] <Kilos> hehe
[18:20] <Maaz> Look buddy, doesn't work is an ambiguous statement. Does it sit on the couch all day? Does it want more money? Does it waste its time on IRC all day long? Please be specific! Define 'it' and what it isn't doing.
[18:20] <superfly> theblazehen: ^^
[18:21] <theblazehen> ah, basically design faster processor design
[18:21] <theblazehen> but then I discovered microcode
[18:21] <theblazehen> wanted to do same thing 
[18:38] <magespawn> good evening all
[18:39] <Kilos> hi magespawn 
[18:40] <magespawn> how are things?
[18:40] <Kilos> good ty and you?
[18:41] <magespawn> very good and hectically busy
[18:43] <Kilos> had another new okey here today
[18:43] <Kilos> told us about a lightweight email client
[18:43] <Kilos> CV
[18:43] <Kilos> ai!
[18:43] <Kilos> sylpheed
[18:45] <Kilos> well magespawn stay hectically busy so you can get ahead and cruise a bit
[18:51] <magespawn> yup i reckon about 6 months to year should do it
[18:53] <sakhi> Good evening magespawn 
[18:53] <Kilos> whew now its 6 to 12
[18:54] <Kilos> now i can go doo doo methinks
[18:54] <Kilos> all the best with everything magespawn 
[18:55] <Kilos> night all. sleep tight
[18:55] <sakhi> night Kilos 
[18:59] <magespawn> hi sakhi
[19:53] <magespawn> good night all