[00:00] <pfifo> Ownix, try changing the lable using the tune2fs program (use the -L option)
[00:02] <jonhigh9000> does anyone know what compression type is recommended when backing up the package archive?
[00:02] <pfifo> deb packages are already compressed with gzip
[00:03] <Jordan_U> jonhigh9000: What package archive are you talking about? Backing up things easily available on the internet doesn't make much sense, and .deb backages are already compressed.
[00:04] <m_tadeu> TheGreatBacon: bad luck...only power wires are connected
[00:05] <jonhigh9000> I wasn't aware of that. I was talking about the /var/cache/apt/archive folder.
[00:07] <pfifo> jonhigh9000, you can use tar to make a single file of them, but your not going to be able to squeeze much more out of them, maybe with 7z or lzma, but not enough to make it worth the cpu cycles
[00:08] <jonhigh9000> pfifo : ok, Thank you your help.
[00:11] <bonhoeffer> i just downloaded a .deb for ubuntu, good like to install?
[00:11] <bonhoeffer> sorry -- anyone know a good link
[00:12] <pfifo> bonhoeffer, are you sure it isnt already in the repo?
[00:12] <bonhoeffer> sublime text 3
[00:12] <bonhoeffer> good point -- i used to know how to search the repo
[00:12] <pfifo> bonhoeffer, apt-cache search <search term>
[00:13] <wilee-nilee> bonhoeffer, If you end up installing I use gdebi, which needs installing but the software center or synaptic will install it.
[00:13] <pfifo> or use the software center
[00:13] <bonhoeffer> pfifo, how do i use the software center -- add a source with that deb
[00:14] <pfifo> bonhoeffer, i dont know, I use only the terminal based tools for package managment
[00:16] <bonhoeffer> pfifo, got it -- i found a ppa
[00:17] <bonhoeffer> but i need to delete my manual install now
[00:18] <BlackoutIsHere> LOL GLOBAL
[00:18] <pfifo> bonhoeffer, `sudo dpkg -P <package name>`
[00:19] <tripelb> i have a tar diwnloaded. How to install? 12.04 gnome-classic. program is Ginko_ CADx-3.4.0.928.33_linux_x86
[00:20] <bwayne> tripelb: is it a .tar, a tar.gz, or a tar.bz2?
[00:20] <pfifo> tripelb, untar it and see if there are instructions in the tarball
[00:22] <tripelb> guys i see no. rxt files AND it is a tgz
[00:22] <bwayne> tripelb: you can unpack it with 'tar --xjvf <tarball>'
[00:22] <bwayne> tripelb: oops, just one dash
[00:22] <pfifo> j is for bzip, z is for gzip (tgz)
[00:23] <bwayne> tripelb: ah yes. tar -xzvf <tarball>
[00:23] <bwayne> thx pfifo
[00:23] <pfifo> so tar xzvf <tarball>
[00:23] <tripelb> pfifo, bwayne °^^ u can see it all with the Archive program. Then what?
[00:24] <pfifo> tripelb, look for a file named README and another named INSTALL
[00:26] <tripelb> pfifo, bwayne there are no files with thise nanea. If you can believe it I acrually looked before I aaked.     s
[00:26] <paperziggurat> I'm trying to use nitrogen to stretch an image across two montirs and it's not working
[00:26] <paperziggurat> The image I'm using is of the correct resolution, and when I go to set 'automatic' and 'full screen', nothing happens when I apply the settings. A couple times I've had this error output to terminal:      (nitrogen:3207): Gtk-CRITICAL **: IA__gtk_list_store_set_value: assertion `VALID_ITER (iter, list_store)' failed  I've been googling for over an hour and have not found a solution. I'm using an AMD chipset and ATI card if that
[00:27] <pfifo> tripelb, im guessing that its in binary form then, you might just look through and see if it contains a ready made program
[00:27] <tripelb> I am on an old froyo phone and artifacts like that s at the end happen cause i cant get to the end of the line.
[00:27] <iananananan> In bash, I typed "./configue"
[00:27] <iananananan> Console tells me to type "make"
[00:27] <iananananan> bash tells me command not found
[00:27] <iananananan> what am I doing wrong?
[00:27] <Pinkamena_D> Hi, I just installed centrifydc to try to join a windows based domain, now I can not even log in
[00:28] <pfifo> iananananan, install 'build essential' package
[00:28] <tripelb> it looks like the dikes and directory to a program -- to me.
[00:28] <MrModest> where me find russian irc of ubuntu ?
[00:28] <tripelb> not dikea .. FILES
[00:28] <Pinkamena_D> It will not take my password for logging in even though it is both the correct domain password and local computer password
[00:28] <n0sq_> i seem to be having a nick issue with quassel - my normal nick is n0sq but i'm no longer able to connect with that nick but it is showing in the nick list - did someone manage to hijack my nick?
[00:28] <pfifo> !ru | MrModest
[00:29] <tripelb> pfifo: ^^^°
[00:29] <n0sq_> i seem to be having a nick issue with quassel - my normal nick is n0sq but i'm no longer able to connect with that nick but it is showing in the *channel* nick list - did someone manage to hijack my nick?
[00:29] <StarFlower> please dont spam n0sq_
[00:29] <pfifo> n0sq, no, its likely a ghost, try /msg nickserv ghost n0sq
[00:29] <xangua> !ghost | n0sq
[00:29] <wilee-nilee> n0sq_, Not necessarily.
[00:30] <MrModest> !ru
[00:30] <iananananan> pfifo, I'm in cygwin, have never played with it before. i'm not sure how to install a tar.gz i've got
[00:30] <iananananan> pfifo, can you refer me to anything? google is giving me mixed results
[00:30] <pfifo> tripelb, extract the archive and run the program?
[00:31] <wilee-nilee> iananananan, This android?
[00:31] <iananananan> wilee-nilee, windows
[00:31] <pfifo> iananananan, we dont support cygwin here, youll need to ask in #cygwin or where ever they hang out
 I'm trying to use nitrogen to stretch an image across two montirs and it's not working [19:26] <paperziggurat> The image I'm using is of the correct resolution, and when I go to set 'automatic' and 'full screen', nothing happens when I apply the settings. A couple times I've had this error output to terminal:      (nitrogen:3207): Gtk-CRITICAL **: IA__gtk_list_store_set_value: assertion `VALID_ITER (iter, list_s
[00:31] <wilee-nilee> iananananan, ##windows
[00:31] <iananananan> pfifo, wilee-nilee thanks
[00:31] <n0sq_> StarFlower: i wasn't spamming - just clarifying
[00:31] <n0sq_> wilee-nilee: eh?
[00:32] <wilee-nilee> iananananan, You have to be registered with freenode for ##windows
[00:32] <iananananan> wilee-nilee, i'm familiar with it already thanks
[00:32] <wilee-nilee> cool, good luck
[00:32] <tripelb> pfifo: there is a file that has a first line #1 /bin/bash
[00:33] <wilee-nilee> n0sq_, You asked a question, I answered it.
[00:33] <n0sq_> xangua: thanks
[00:33] <n0sq_> wilee-nilee: sorry - misread it
[00:33] <Ownix> Im getting an error about "duplicate sources" when I run apt-update. It looks to me like its seeing both amd64 packages and i386
[00:33] <Ownix> in the repo I just added
[00:34] <wilee-nilee> n0sq_, Every so often one of my 3 nicks stick, never been highjacked.
[00:35] <tripelb> pfifo: i extracted it. show files ONLY displayed a shell script
[00:35] <pfifo> tripelb, well im really not sure what your dealing with here, you should seek support from the developers of your program. All I can offer is to use 'file <filename' to determine what type of files your dealing with... maybe look on the site you downloaded this from for information on how to use it properly
[00:35] <tripelb>  i ran it. i see nothing. i should have run it in terminal?
[00:35] <tripelb>  i ran it. i see nothing. i should have run it in terminal? pfifo
[00:36] <Ownix> Looks like the deb I installed with dpkg added its own repo in my sources list.
[00:36] <pfifo> tripelb, yes i recommend running it from terminal, youll atleast get an error message if nothing else
[00:37] <wilee-nilee> Ownix, and?
[00:38] <Ownix> wilee-nilee: sorry. I meant to say that was the problem. I simply deleted the repo I added in sources.list the pubic key for that entry that I added with apt-key will remain though
[00:38] <wilee-nilee> cool
[00:39] <freannrak> if you were to buy ubuntu certified laptop with 3000 EUR budget. What would it be?
[00:39] <paperziggurat>  <paperziggurat> <paperziggurat> I'm trying to use nitrogen to stretch an image across two montirs and it's not working [19:26] <paperziggurat> The image I'm using is of the correct resolution, and when I go to set 'automatic' and 'full screen', nothing happens when I apply the settings. A couple times I've had this error output to terminal:      (nitrogen:3207): Gtk-CRITICAL **: IA__gtk_list_store_set_value: assertion `VALID_I
[00:39] <pfifo> something without uEFI
[00:41] <tripelb> pfifo: ran from term choice in gui. didnt even see term. then ok start a term and run it. wot the files are all over home tho i said make dorectory. foo! how do i get those files out of home. will extract again more carefully. Thanks for holding my hand. really
[00:43] <tripelb> pfifo: YES. thanks. (i disnt preaa return after making the filename.
[00:43] <tripelb> press
[00:45] <pfifo> tripelb, i would just restore my home directory from backup
[00:45] <bonhoeffer> is there a way to mount ntfs not read only
[00:46] <tripelb> pfifo: backup? how to make a backup? then if i had one how to reso
[00:46] <Dr_Willis> bonhoeffer:  use the ntfs-3g  not ntfs
[00:46] <Dr_Willis> !ntfs-3g
[00:46] <pfifo> HI! Dr_Willis
[00:46] <tripelb> restore .. a web link is fine. pfifo
[00:46] <tripelb> hi Dr_Willis
[00:47] <bonhoeffer> Dr_Willis, got it
[00:47] <tripelb> i have readwrite to ntgs on the natch. who. needs to imstall it?
[00:48] <pfifo> tripelb, it seems for you it may be too late to make a backup
[00:48] <bonhoeffer> Dr_Willis, i'm a command line guy -- but looking to mount ntfs-3g via gui -- is that an option in ubuntu?
[00:49] <tripelb> pfifo: but not too late to learn  how to
[00:49] <setuid> What's the best way to automatically clean up, delete *.gz and *.1 logs from /var/log/*?
[00:49] <setuid> Servers I've had running for weeks, keep collecting logs and doesn't seem to clean them up
[00:49] <pfifo> !backup | tripelb
[00:49] <Dr_Willis> bonhoeffer:  the cli tool is 'ntfs-3g' or use -t ntfs-3g      the ntfs-3g homepage hasd docs and examples
[00:50] <Dr_Willis> bonhoeffer:  as far as i know - ntfs-3g SHOULD be the default on ubuntu. and the nautilus file manager stuff uses it by default as a gui way
[00:51] <bonhoeffer> i thought fstab would show me how my usb drive is mounted -- how can i find out?
[00:51] <Dr_Willis> bonhoeffer:  the ntfs-config tool can setup proper fstab entries for your ntfs disks and tweak some settings
[00:51] <pfifo> setuid, those files are made by the 'logrotate' service, if you dont want them, stop running logrotate, there may be options about how much it saves, but im not sure of this
[00:51] <setuid> pfifo, It's not pruning logs, just rotating them, that's the issue
[00:51] <bonhoeffer> /dev/sde1 on /media/foo type hfsplus
[00:52] <bonhoeffer> :( -- mac says it is NTFS (i thought)
[00:52] <bonhoeffer> it mounts fine, but I can't delete
[00:52] <Dr_Willis> hfs is a totallydiffernt beast. HFS is read only as far as i know.
[00:52] <bonhoeffer> looks that way -- but i can't even rsync it -- get errors
[00:54] <pfifo> setuid, there are many options available for logrotate, check out the manual for all the details
[00:54] <bonhoeffer> what is a good format to share a disk between ubuntu and mac os x
[00:55] <Dr_Willis> bonhoeffer:  apple channel may know if apple can read ext2/3/4 or other formats
[00:55] <SolarAquarion> what's the IRC chan for saucy?
[00:55] <tripelb> pfifo: very cool that it is so easily availabe. Now I go to try to see my x-rays. if i only had a virtual windows7 box I would be avoiding this pain. ... Oh well.
[00:55] <Onixs> exFat
[00:56] <tripelb> pfifo: thank you from the bottom of my feet to my white hair!
[00:56] <Dr_Willis> SolarAquarion:  #ubuntu+1
[00:56] <Dr_Willis> SolarAquarion:  at least untill its released. ;)
[00:57] <chaloum> how do I cant to the user www-data?  I thought it was sudo www-data but I'm missing something
[00:58] <Dr_Willis> chaloum:  you would normally put your user in the www-data group i belive. You dont 'change' to the www-data user
[00:59] <bonhoeffer> NTFS
[01:00] <chaloum> Dr_Willis: I've figured it out its sudo su www-data
[01:00] <pfifo> chaloum, thats not really a good idea
[01:00] <Dr_Willis> chaloum:  i imagine theres better ways to do whatever it is you are trying to do.
[01:01] <OerHeks> su = "stop using "
[01:02] <Psil0Cybin> hey guys i need help i am very very lost, after playing around with samba (just installing it) on ubuntu 12.04 desktop edition, i have a problem that my network drops every couple of minutes and by drop i mean that the network still says that it is connceted although i am not recieving packets and thus all my downloads stop downloading, i followed every guide i could find for ubuntu 12.04 wifi drop
[01:02] <Psil0Cybin> but nothing helps me, and nothing solves my problem, i cannot find a single fix and am completely lost.
[01:02] <EleanorEllis> Hi. I'm trying to create a bootable USB stick to install Ubuntu on a computer whose CD drive as failed. I have inserted the liveCD into the CD drive of the working computer but Startup Disk Creator doesn't show the live CD. I also cant open the live CD from the Places menu
[01:02] <Psil0Cybin> i followed over 10 or 15 different tutorials
[01:02] <pfifo> OerHeks, i wouldnt go that far, seems a bit extreme
[01:03] <Psil0Cybin> my internet works perfectly fine for a couple of minutes, i am talking to you guys right now but randomly while it still says it is connceted i notice that all my internet connections drop
[01:03] <sam113101> Psil0Cybin: you want to copy the CD on the usb drive?
[01:03] <Psil0Cybin> and all downloads stop
[01:03] <sam113101> hoops
[01:03] <sam113101> highlighted the wrong person
[01:03] <sam113101> sorry
[01:03] <Psil0Cybin> its okay :(
[01:03] <sam113101> EleanorEllis: : you want to copy the CD on the usb drive?
[01:04] <sam113101> if so, I suggest you just download a new iso
[01:04] <maerr> somebody knows another channel
[01:04] <EleanorEllis> sam113101: Yes I want to create a live USB
[01:04] <sam113101> maerr: channel for what
[01:04] <sam113101> EleanorEllis: then download an iso and forget about the cd
[01:05] <maerr> to meet  peop
[01:05] <sam113101> maerr: freenode isn't really suited for that… it hosts channels for open source projects, mainly
[01:05] <EleanorEllis> sam113101: It's odd that I cant seem to read the CD. Odd because it worked on another machine. I was trying to save time over downloading an iso.
[01:05] <EleanorEllis> Silly me
[01:05] <pfifo> maerr, try #politics, talk about the american government shutdown
[01:06] <qin> maerr: #meet-people #ubuntu-offtopic #defocus #etc
[01:06] <sam113101> EleanorEllis: well, easiest way is to download the iso, if you're still concerned about your cd drive not working, I'd try another cd
[01:07] <EleanorEllis> sam113101: Is there a different iso for the USB stick to the CD?
[01:07] <sam113101> it's the same iso for both cd and usb
[01:08] <EleanorEllis> sam113101: Thanks
[01:08] <snine> !millamber Outliers_ The Story of Success - Malcolm Gladwell.epub
[01:08] <EleanorEllis> sam113101: I should have done that in the first place. It says only 6 mins left to finish downloading it
[01:09] <sam113101> yeah, with a good internet connection (or even an average one), it's quite fast
[01:10] <EleanorEllis> sam113101: Yes I remember when downloading an iso would take an hour or so
[01:10] <maerr> I use idm, works great
[01:11] <laniasepstuisna> heii,, i newbie
[01:13] <Alpha-Omega> hey, does anyone know when mpv-player will be released to the Ubuntu repos?
[01:14] <andrej> multi-pathing and open-iscsi seem to be broken in 12.04.  Trying to shutdown a box with an iSCSI attached SAN fails, it can't unmount the SAN; my suspicion is that this happens because networking gets torn down before the unmount.  Has anyone made the same observation? Is my assumption correct? And fixing it is by adding the network to shutdown-after in the init-script?
[01:16] <craigbass1976> Anyone know how Thunderbird stores a password?  I have a working copy at work, but I've changed the password since the last time I logged on with this laptop at home.  I can ssh in, but not sure where I'd find the password in ~./thunderbird/
[01:17] <maerr> somebody knows how to list all channels freenode
[01:18] <SolarAquarion> maerr, are you using hexchat?
[01:18] <andrej> I'm sure somebody does ... I hope somone will tell you that that's dsicouraged
[01:19] <maerr> I'm using androirc on my android smartphone, & u?
[01:20] <pfifo> !alis | maerr
[01:20] <Dr_Willis> you dont want to tell your  client to list all channel;s.. the list is HUGE. :) and will most likely flood your client off the server
[01:24] <calwig> oO
[01:24]  * calwig felt the tilt
[01:27] <Levi__> hey has anyone tried to run the learning pit logix pro under wine
[01:27] <Dr_Willis> !appdb
[01:31] <EleanorEllis> In Startup Disk Creator, I made the mistake of selecting "Erase" and it's taking forever to wipe a 16GB stick. Is that usual? Can I interrupt it?
[01:31] <shawnboy> anybody know how to start Ubuntu install from terminal after booting from USB?
[01:31] <Dr_Willis> you may still nbeed to reformat the usb.
[01:31] <Dr_Willis> shawnboy:  the installer app is called ubiquity i belive.
[01:31] <Dr_Willis> shawnboy:  thats the normal gui installer.
[01:32] <EleanorEllis> Dr_Willis: Should it take a long time to format a USB stick?
[01:32] <shawnboy> thanks Dr_Willis
[01:32] <Dr_Willis> EleanorEllis:  cant say ive really noticed.   Some times ubuntu has slow access to usb flash drives ive seen
[01:32] <Dr_Willis> it does do a full format, not a quick format i belive.
[01:32] <Dr_Willis> if you stop it. you might need to use gparted to format it again.
[01:33] <bonhoeffer> goodness, my user is member of the group -- but i still can't touch a file in that directory
[01:33] <bonhoeffer> drwxrwxr-x 6 www-data www-data 4096 Oct  1 21:25 themes
[01:33] <EleanorEllis> Dr_Willis: If I pull the stick while it's doing it, will I damage the stick?
[01:33] <bonhoeffer> i'm a member of www-data
[01:33] <Dr_Willis> EleanorEllis:  id just let it run..  i wouldent think it would take mor ethen 10-15 min
[01:33] <shawnboy> boot from USB with 12.04.1 hangs before loading GUI but I can drop into ctrl-alt-F2 and get a prompt. So I figure there must be a way to start the install process from terminal.
[01:34] <Dr_Willis> shawnboy:  there is no text based installer on the desktop dvd by default.
[01:34] <shawnboy> ah. well, I guess I'll have to try the alternate CD.
[01:34] <Dr_Willis> !nomodeset
[01:34] <wylde> bonhoeffer: if you just added yourself to the group you need to log out and back in for the sytem to notice you're a member of www-data
[01:34] <Dr_Willis> the nomodeset option may get you to a desktop
[01:34] <bonhoeffer> ahh .. . wylde thanksa
[01:35] <shawnboy> Goodbye. Thanks again, Dr_Willis.
[01:36] <wilee-nilee> So If I want to buy a tv that I can wifi my media to what am I looking for, not familiar with this.
[01:36] <Dr_Willis> wilee-nilee:  dlna/upnp/ features.
[01:36] <Psil0Cybin> hey guys having a problem trying to get Wicd to show a tray icon on Xubuntu
[01:36] <wilee-nilee> Dr_Willis, thanks
[01:36] <Dr_Willis> wilee-nilee:  samsung calls it allshare i think.
[01:36] <Psil0Cybin> is this a known issue that this does not work?
[01:36] <Psil0Cybin> there is no way of getting a tray icon
[01:36] <pleanbean> Can someone PM me who can help me get Ubuntu running on my PC? I'm having GRUB issues
[01:36] <wilee-nilee> cool thanks again
[01:36] <Psil0Cybin> oh nvm
[01:37] <Psil0Cybin> fixed
[01:37] <Dr_Willis> wilee-nilee:  most of the better tv's thse days can do dlna, or you can always get a roku, or raspberry pi ;)
[01:37] <wylde> >_<
[01:38] <wilee-nilee> Dr_Willis, Cool I'm looking on amazon, just trying to find a fair deal and I have a nexus and two computers, one is a netbook I never use.
[01:38] <Dr_Willis> wilee-nilee:  samsung smart tv has  software features where you can instgall apps from the samsung store. there is a 'plex' app that lets me get to all my video files from my Plex Server on the network.
[01:39] <craigbass1976> Anyone know how Thunderbird stores a password?  I have a working copy at work, but I've changed the password since the last time I logged on with this laptop at home.  I can ssh in, but not sure where I'd find the password in ~./thunderbird/
[01:39] <TJ-> pleanbean: Please describe your problem else there'll be no-one know whether they can help you or not
[01:39] <Dr_Willis> wilee-nilee:  also check out the chromecast dongle. $35
[01:39] <Jeruvy> wilee-nilee  pm?
[01:39] <wilee-nilee> Dr_Willis, Do you have a hub involved in this?
[01:40] <wilee-nilee> Jeruvy, I have pm off.
[01:40] <Dr_Willis> wilee-nilee:  the tv is on my network via wifi router. or i can go wired. samsung also has a wifi direct feature.
[01:40] <pleanbean> I'm trying to install Ubuntu on dev/sdc with the install img on a USB. The install process goes smoothly but when I try to boot the drive, I get a black screen with a blinking cursor
[01:40] <wilee-nilee> cool I will look at what is needed thanks
[01:40] <Dr_Willis> !nomodeset | pleanbean
[01:41] <TJ-> pleanbean: That sounds as if the install didn't write the GRUB boot-strap code to the USB device at all.
[01:41] <Dr_Willis> pleanbean:  short answer - try the nomodeset optiuon, IF you can get to a grub menu. try the boot-repair tool if you cant get to grub menu
[01:42] <pfifo> Dr_Willis, surely nomodeset has to be obsoleted by now?
[01:42] <Dr_Willis> !fixgrub
[01:42] <pleanbean> Well I'm trying to write GRUB to sdc not USB
[01:42] <Dr_Willis> pfifo:  about 2 releases ago i no longer needed it on my nvidia  machines.. befor that - i still did
[01:42] <pleanbean> I cannot get to a grub menu
[01:42] <TJ-> pleanbean: Oh, I see, sorry, I misread you as meaning the USB device was mounted at /dev/sdc.
[01:42] <Dr_Willis> pleanbean:  see the boot-repair info  to get a workinggrub
[01:43] <pleanbean> I'm on Boot Repair right now
[01:43] <pleanbean> But I'm having issues with it.
[01:43] <wilee-nilee> Dr_Willis, So what is the minimal p you would suggest?
[01:43] <pfifo> Dr_Willis, what is the output of 'lsb_release -sc'
[01:44] <Dr_Willis> wilee-nilee:  i last got a tv  about 2 yrs ago. I just go with the 1080p with the smart features.  whteer is in the budget.
[01:44] <Dr_Willis> wilee-nilee:  it does everything i need and more. ;)
[01:44] <pleanbean> I'm in Advanced options > Main options. What should I have checked besides Reinstall GRUB? By default "Use the standard EFI file", "Unhide boot menu, Repair file systems are checked.
[01:44] <pleanbean> Do I need to Restore MBR?
[01:44] <Dr_Willis> restore mbr - puts the windows mbr back on - i belive
[01:45] <wilee-nilee> Dr_Willis, That seems like a good start, I don't watch a whole lot of tv but it would be nice to have one that looks good.
[01:45] <pleanbean> OK so no. Going into GRUB location. OS to boot by default: sdc2 (Ubuntu 13.04).
[01:45] <Dr_Willis> wilee-nilee:  i tend to stick to samsung, and whateer is on sale at fathers day. ;) or xmas.
[01:46] <pleanbean> What about Separate /boot partition or Separate /boot/efi partition? What do those do?
[01:46] <wilee-nilee> viva the sale, yeah
[01:46] <pfifo> whats the point in watching video files on your tv when theres a computer right there?
[01:46] <Dr_Willis> pleanbean:  did you set up a seperate /boot/ partition?
[01:46] <pleanbean> No
[01:46] <Dr_Willis> pfifo:  my big 36+ in tv is right above my computer monitor/desk ;)
[01:46] <pleanbean> Thats another question. How should I have my drive partitioned?
[01:47] <chaotic_good> make /boot 300M+ on ubuntu or upgrades fail
[01:47] <Dr_Willis> pleanbean:  depends on the size. and what you are doing with it.. minimal  is a / partion and a swap partiotion
[01:47] <Dr_Willis> I would not bother with a /boot/ partition
[01:47] <pleanbean> I have 1TB to use
[01:47] <Dr_Willis> uefi also requires some other partion i think. (i dont use uefi)
[01:48] <mrrcp> uefi is a nightmare
[01:48] <Dr_Willis> 50 gb for   a few gb for swap rest for /home/ would be common
[01:48] <Dr_Willis> 50gb for /  ;)
[01:48] <pleanbean> 50GB for /?
[01:48] <chaotic_good> I like 4g / jfs, 300M /boot ext2 and rest lvm /
[01:48] <pleanbean> Thats the system folder?
[01:48] <chaotic_good> lvm reiserFS
[01:49] <chaotic_good> oh yeah!!
[01:49] <Dr_Willis> i have DEFINATLY filled up 30gb / befor
[01:49] <pleanbean> You guys are losing me...
[01:49] <pfifo> i like 4 primary partitions, 8gb/8gb/8gb/296gb on for ubuntu LTS one for ubuntu unstable, one for swap, and the giant one for /home
[01:49] <Dr_Willis> pleanbean:  you can just let the installer automate it all
[01:49] <pleanbean> Unfortunately, automating it doesn't give me the option to install it to sdc
[01:50] <pleanbean> I have a few internal drives and it automatically installs it to sda
[01:50] <Dr_Willis> pleanbean:  you could unplug the others
[01:50] <pleanbean> Ok I'll do that.
[01:50] <TJ-> Dr_Willis: I usually do LVMs with  / = 8GB, /var/ = 8GB, /usr/local/ = 4GB, /tmp/ = 5GB and swap = RAM+512MB
[01:50] <Dr_Willis> or just partion the other hd how you want. :) but ifyou dont know what you are doi9ng. It may be much safer to just unplug the others
[01:50] <Dr_Willis> I dont mess with LVM ;)
[01:51] <Dr_Willis> ife definatly filled up 5+gb in tmp befor. heh..
[01:51] <pfifo> TJ-, you should try tmp as a tmpfs filesystem ;)
[01:51] <pleanbean> I would know what I'm doing if someone told me how I should partition the drive haha
[01:51] <Dr_Willis> but it depends on what you are doing
[01:51] <TJ-> pfifo: I deliberately don't want tmpfs
[01:51] <Dr_Willis> pleanbean:  we said earlier.. 50gb for /  some for swap - rest for /home/
[01:52] <Dr_Willis> thats about as basic a setup as you can get
[01:52] <pleanbean> 3 partitions?
[01:52] <Dr_Willis> yes. 3 partitions
[01:53] <Dr_Willis> swap=ram+512mb is common also theswe days
[01:53] <pleanbean> Why are / and /home/ separate?
[01:53] <TJ-> separating /var/ from / prevents /var/log/ or /var/cache/{apt/archives,*} from causing the root file-system running out of space
[01:53] <Dr_Willis> to make things easier later down the road.. dont seperate them if you dont want
[01:53] <Dr_Willis> make a / and a swap - thatss the MINIMAL setup
[01:53] <pfifo> pleanbean, so you can format and reinstall ubuntu with out deleting all your settings and family photos
[01:54] <TJ-> pleanbean: We separate /home/ because that contains user files. That allows an easy re-install or upgrade of the core OS without needing to worry about deleting the contents of /home/
[01:54] <pleanbean> Ok that makes sense.
[01:54] <pleanbean> Are the / and /home/ partitions both ext4?
[01:54] <Dr_Willis> my /home/ is on its own seperate 3TB HD.
[01:54] <Dr_Willis> ext4 is the default - yes
[01:54] <pfifo> Dr_Willis, no raid 10 on /home ?
[01:55] <Dr_Willis> ive learned from in here.. to not mess with raid. ;)
[01:55] <Dr_Willis> seen way to many issues in here with it.. but of course this is wherfe people come when they have issues
[01:55] <Dr_Willis> so its a bit biased
[01:55] <pfifo> dont mess with fakeraid or softraid... definatly check into realraid
[01:55] <Dr_Willis> ill pass on all raid :)
[01:56] <Dr_Willis> my / right now is on its own ssd drive.  /home/ is on its own SATA driv e.
[01:57] <pfifo> 3tb is alot
[01:57] <pleanbean> OK, partitioned /dev/sdc to have a 8.5GB swap, a 50GB ext4 / and a much larger ext4 /home/
[01:58] <pleanbean> Now go ahead and install again?
[01:58] <Dr_Willis> pfifo:  and yet i still need more. ;)
[01:58] <grahamsavage> hey anyone here familiar with vftpd?
[01:58] <pfifo> filesharing much?
[01:58] <jmgk> hey Dr_Willis
[01:58] <jmgk> :)
[01:58] <Dr_Willis> pfifo:  riping dvd's for the wife to the plex server mainly
[01:58] <grahamsavage> vsftpd... there's a config option called local_enable.. really i only want virtual users to login
[01:59] <jmgk> iS chat the default Linux client ?
[01:59] <jmgk> Xchat*
[01:59] <pfifo> grahamsavage, vsftpd isnt the best option for virtual users
[01:59] <Dr_Willis> jmgk:  xchat is a commnly used irc client for linux
[01:59] <jmgk> ah ok
[01:59] <jmgk> :)
[01:59] <jmgk> I prefer it :D
[01:59] <grahamsavage> pfifo: what's your suggestion?
[01:59] <pfifo> grahamsavage, cuteftpd
[02:00] <pfifo> grahamsavage, but to be honest, i usually just use httpd instead, ftp is ancient
[02:00] <grahamsavage> yeah, i wouldn't be using ftp if i had a choice now :D
[02:01] <grahamsavage> ok cuteftpd looks commerical
[02:01] <KnownSyntax> Why not use proftpd?
[02:02] <KnownSyntax> It will allow you to do exactly what you want, all you have to do is edit the config. Same with vsftpd
[02:02] <pfifo> grahamsavage, hmm, maybe they went commercial, I havent used ftp for years
[02:02] <pfifo> anyway I need to sleep
[02:02] <grahamsavage> KnownSyntax: yeah i'm trying to work out the config
[02:03] <mnewton> Hey how do I copy an image to clipboard
[02:03] <mnewton> Hey how do I copy an image to clipboard commandline
[02:03] <grahamsavage> KnownSyntax; vsftpd has a local_enable=YES.. which it says "Virtual users will use the same privileges as local users. It will grant write access to virtual users. Virtual users will use the same privileges as anonymous users, which tends to be more restrictive"
[02:03] <pleanbean> Should my swap space be a Primary or Logical partition?
[02:03] <Dr_Willis> pleanbean:  when in doubt - use all primaries
[02:04] <Dr_Willis> pleanbean:  unless you know you will need more then 4 partitions
[02:04] <KnownSyntax> It should work grahamsavage, although I always use proftpd so my knowledge of vsftpd's config and stuff is somewhat limited.
[02:04] <zykotick9> pleanbean: doesn't really matter
[02:04] <EleanorEllis> I cant get Startup Disk Creator to work. I can select the iso and the usb stick but "Make Startup Disk" is greyed out. I have tried formatting the stick already
[02:05] <EleanorEllis> I dont want to use unetbootin as I need to do an oem install and unetbootin doesnt give that option. Plus unetbootin crashes on the target pc
[02:05] <Dr_Willis> EleanorEllis:  is the stick mounted or unmounted?  i tend to use the tools from the pendrivelinux site
[02:05] <jmgk> Dr_Willis, do u use xchat?
[02:05] <Dr_Willis> EleanorEllis:  you can use dd to write the iso directkyto the usb also
[02:05] <Dr_Willis> jmgk:  i use weechat mainly
[02:05] <jmgk> weeeeeee
[02:05] <pleanbean> When I install, do I select /sdc or /sdc2 or whatever my / partition is
[02:05] <jmgk> :P
[02:05] <EleanorEllis> Dr_Willis: If the stick is unmounted then it doesnt appear in Startup Disk Creator at all. If it's mounted then it shows but cant make the disk
[02:06] <xmetal> ok so i got the iso for 12.04 and have it started in vm atm
[02:06] <Dr_Willis> pleanbean:  / goes to a partion sdc1 or whateer.. GRUB installt to the  Mbr of the drive.. sdc  NO #
[02:07] <grahamsavage> KnownSyntax: yeah.. ok.. maybe i just try whatever and then see if it works
[02:07] <grahamsavage> haha
[02:07] <KnownSyntax> lol
[02:07] <grahamsavage> i've got this weird habit, where i type up everything in .sh files without running anything
[02:08] <grahamsavage> mind you, if you need to do something twice.. it makes it very easy
[02:08] <Dr_Willis> EleanorEllis:  how did you unmount it? the gui can unmount and actually detatch the device so its no longer seen by the bios.
[02:08] <EleanorEllis> Dr_Willis: Yes I used the gui. I will try in terminal
[02:08] <Dr_Willis> EleanorEllis:  i tnd to use the cli to unmount the things.
[02:10] <EleanorEllis> Dr_Willis: umount in cli makes no difference
[02:10] <EleanorEllis> Im trying to find how to create the stick with dd
[02:12] <Psil0Cybin> hey guys im having a problem when i am idle or every couple of minutes my wifi conncetion drops i tried removing network-manager and instead using wicd but the same problem persists.
[02:12] <Guest9068> where do i change the theme of gnome notifications?
[02:13] <Psil0Cybin> i am completely out of ideas, thsi leaves me unable to download files @ night
[02:13] <Psil0Cybin> only torrents because i can reconncet on connection loss
[02:13] <Psil0Cybin> what can i do?!
[02:13] <Psil0Cybin> i think i might reformat i have tried every guide and it works perfect on windows
[02:14] <grahamsavage> hmm vsftpd looks a bit too complicated
[02:14] <grahamsavage> might try a look at pureftpd
[02:15] <Dr_Willis> EleanorEllis:    sudo dd if=thefile.iso  of=/dev/sdX bs=4M     and DONT get /dev/sdX wrong.
[02:15] <Guest9068> Psil0Cybin: may be issue of power management
[02:15] <Psil0Cybin> Guest9068: I have tried every solution to power management, issues. nothing fix's it
[02:15] <Dr_Willis> Psil0Cybin:  use the ping command to keep pinging some site every 10 sec or so - seen that in the forums as a work around
[02:15] <Psil0Cybin> i have found muliple solutions, none that work for me
[02:16] <Psil0Cybin> yea but thats the only solution? feels so ghetto
[02:16] <Psil0Cybin> ugh
[02:16] <Dr_Willis> if it works... it works
[02:16] <pleanbean> Dr_Willis: No luck. Installed, still getting the black screen
[02:16] <Dr_Willis> I have no idea if it works.. if it does work - that points to a   power saveing issue
[02:16] <Psil0Cybin> Dr_Willis: i might as well keep IRC on, but this still is just a silly work around i want a solution :( ugh
[02:16] <Guest9068> what is your version of ubuntu?
[02:16] <Psil0Cybin> 12.04
[02:16] <Psil0Cybin> Guest9068:
[02:16] <Psil0Cybin> LTS
[02:17] <Psil0Cybin> as long as i keep browsing
[02:17] <Psil0Cybin> my downloads are fine
[02:17] <Psil0Cybin> but go to the washroom and all my HTTP downloads timeout
[02:17] <Dr_Willis> Psil0Cybin:  if its a driver issue. then the kernel/drivers will need to get fixed basically
[02:17] <Guest9068> what is model and name of your wireless card?
[02:17] <Psil0Cybin> Guest9068: what command do i type
[02:18] <Dr_Willis> Psil0Cybin:  seen if it still happens in the newer releases/kernels?
[02:18] <EleanorEllis> Psil0Cybin: Could you connect to your router with a cable? Would that be a workaround?
[02:18] <Dr_Willis> 'lspci' gives you hardware info
[02:18] <Psil0Cybin> 02:00.0 Network controller: Qualcomm Atheros AR9285 Wireless Network Adapter (PCI-Express) (rev 01)
[02:19] <Dr_Willis> if you dont even know your wireless chipset :) that is rther critical info. ;P
[02:19] <Dr_Willis> there ya go.
[02:19] <Guest9068> i have the same model
[02:19] <bonhoeffer> i just installed the mysql client -- but it isn't coming up in dash home -- is there a way to re-index
[02:19] <Guest9068> on 13.04
[02:19] <Dr_Willis> check for that exact chipset in the forums and askubuntu.com - there may be some boot options or kernel options for it
[02:19] <EleanorEllis> Dr_Willis: Thanks. That worked
[02:19] <Dr_Willis> mysql client is a gui tool?
[02:20] <wylde> !info mysql-client
[02:20] <Dr_Willis> EleanorEllis:  of course if you want to use the flash drive as a normal flash now.. you will need to zero it and repartion/reformat it again. ;)
[02:20] <wylde> not to my knowledge. Although there are front ends in the repos I believe
[02:20] <Psil0Cybin> Dr_Willis: i found something similar
[02:20] <Psil0Cybin> http://askubuntu.com/questions/118023/wireless-connection-with-an-atheros-ar9285-keeps-dropping-every-20-minutes
[02:20] <xsi> Hi what's the list of current user's questions, may I ask?
[02:20] <Psil0Cybin> im going to try some of the stuff
[02:20] <Psil0Cybin> let you knjow how it goes
[02:20] <bonhoeffer> Dr_Willis, as far i know -- i'm used to just using the cli for mysql
[02:20] <Psil0Cybin> but i tried the modeprobe stuff and options ath9k nohwcrypt=1
[02:20] <Psil0Cybin> nothing works
[02:21] <EleanorEllis> Dr_Willis: Thats all right. I have so many flash drives and I almost never use any of them
[02:22] <TJ-> Psil0Cybin: It is worth trying one of the Kernel Team's mainline builds of a very recent kernel, such as v3.11, because that will likely have many bug fixes in it
[02:22] <Guest9068> Psil0Cybin: do you have experienced set ip manually, just to test?
[02:22] <Dr_Willis> EleanorEllis:  you can always dd anothe riso to it. :)
[02:23] <EleanorEllis> Dr_Willis: The irony is I'm doing all this so I can give an old machine away whose CD drive has given up. Or maybe it's the IDE controlled or cable that's given up. Don't know. But so long as the machine is working then someone else can fit a new CD drive if they want it
[02:24] <Dr_Willis> EleanorEllis:  i had an ide cable that got nicked by a sharp edge on a case :) took me foreever to find the cause
[02:24] <TJ-> Psil0Cybin: It's being tracked in bug #773154
[02:24] <nrdb> I have a oddity here.  I have setup a computer with several Xen VM's the ping times to these are averaging about 20ms ... but when I ping another real computer I average about 1.5ms ... why speed difference?
[02:26] <Psil0Cybin> TJ Guest9068 it worked a few weeks ago perfectly fine before i installed Samba...
[02:26] <Psil0Cybin> no its automatic
[02:26] <Psil0Cybin> but it works like that with a live cd
[02:26] <Psil0Cybin> so i feel like something is messed up
[02:26] <Psil0Cybin> could it be? DHCP lease times
[02:26] <EleanorEllis> Dr_Willis: It could easily be something like that. The CD drive works on a USB adaptor but I couldnt get the OEM install to work off the CD for some reason. It is working off the USB stick now.
[02:27] <TJ-> Psil0Cybin: Reading the log files is the about the only way to gather evidence as to the cause, then you can figure out the correct solution
[02:29]  * iananananan is away: homework
[02:30] <EleanorEllis> Installing Ubuntu alongside windows XP on a 40GB drive what would be a sensible split between ubuntu and windows so that windows stands at least some chance of working? I have a second 40GB drive I can use for extra storage but I am reluctant to put the home partition on the second hard drive in case the second drive fails and then whoever has the computer cant work out how to fix it
[02:31] <nrdb> EleanorEllis, I reserved 100GB for windows.
[02:31] <EleanorEllis> The machine has a bare install of XP with SP3 but nothing else and that takes up 11GB
[02:31] <EleanorEllis> nrdb: Nice try but its only a 40GB drive
[02:31] <TJ-> Psil0Cybin: There were a huge number of fixes committed to the ath9k driver in August, so a later kernel would very likely be a solution. The only other suggestion would be to ensure the WiFi DHCP server has a long lease-time so the clients aren't having to re-acquire a lease too rapidly, which seems to be another issue that affects the ath9k devices (can't see why!)
[02:31] <EleanorEllis> nrdb: It's an old PC
[02:32] <pleanbean> Dr_Willis, I need more help
[02:32] <EleanorEllis> I usually setup a swap partition about twice the size of the RAM but on this little drive every gig counts. Will performance suffer much without a swap partition?
[02:33] <TJ-> EleanorEllis: swap = RAM + 500MB is enough ... that extra is there for future hibernate support, so not vital currently.
[02:33] <Psil0Cybin> see what i mean i keep getting disconnected
[02:33] <TJ-> Psil0Cybin: There were a huge number of fixes committed to the ath9k driver in August, so a later kernel would very likely be a solution. The only other suggestion would be to ensure the WiFi DHCP server has a long lease-time so the clients aren't having to re-acquire a lease too rapidly, which seems to be another issue that affects the ath9k devices (can't see why!)
[02:34] <nrdb> EleanorEllis, how much memory on the computer?
[02:34] <EleanorEllis> 1GB RAM and hibernate is not an issue as its a desktop and so old I doubt it would come out of hibernation
[02:34] <Dr_Willis> pleanbean:  im at work. so i am in and out all day long.
[02:34] <Dr_Willis> i may have to vanish with out notice
[02:35] <pleanbean> OK
[02:35] <Psil0Cybin> TJ-: im fairly new to to linux, that is my problem i am unsure of how to install a new kernal
[02:35] <Psil0Cybin> i usually just update
[02:35] <Psil0Cybin> through the manager.
[02:35] <pleanbean> Boot Repair is giving me this error:
[02:35] <nrdb> EleanorEllis, I think about 29 windows, 10 linux, 1 swap would work OK.
[02:35] <yans> Hello People.
[02:35] <pleanbean> GPT detected. Please create a BIOS-Boot partition (>1MB, unformatted filesystem, bios_grub flag).
[02:35] <Dr_Willis> Psil0Cybin:  a quick and easy way to test - would be to see the 13.10 beta live cd has the same issue. If it works right - that points to the new kernels being a fix. ;)
[02:35] <EleanorEllis> nrdb: Thanks
[02:36] <nrdb> EleanorEllis, of course fully backup windows first.
[02:37] <EleanorEllis> nrdb: Backup windows? Nah! It's a fresh install and I dont care about it that much
[02:37] <wilee-nilee> Dr_Willis, Ordered a samsung, 32 inch 1080p, thanks for the help.
[02:37] <pleanbean> Can anyone help me with this error message? From Boot Repair: GPT detected. Please create a BIOS-Boot partition (>1MB, unformatted filesystem, bios_grub flag).
[02:37] <pleanbean> [7:35pm]
[02:38] <EleanorEllis> Is there any reason not to use ext4 nowadays?
[02:38] <Dr_Willis> wilee-nilee:  ive never been brave enough to order somting that fragile off the internet. ;)
[02:38] <Dr_Willis> EleanorEllis:  i got some old linux based tv-home-theater devovces that cant handle ext4  so i use ext3 for external drives for them
[02:39] <TJ-> Psil0Cybin: There's info on installing mainline kernels built by the kernel-team here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/MainlineBuilds
[02:39] <Dr_Willis> pleanbean:  it wants a partition at the start of the drive to use for gpt booting it seems
[02:39] <EleanorEllis> nrdb: I usually make a separate home partition but as space is limited perhaps I should just make a root partition.
[02:39] <wylde> pleanbean: it means you've used gpt to partition your disc but didn't create an empty bios_boot >1MB at the beginning
[02:39] <nrdb> EleanorEllis, I don't think so, but the extra capacity sure isn't needed.
[02:39] <EleanorEllis> Dr_Willis: I am installing 12.04 on this box
[02:40] <wilee-nilee> Dr_Willis, bought the 4 years insurance, I have a neighbor who bought a gigantic 3d hdmi tv off the net, so I'm not worried amazon is an upstanding place to buy in general. ;)
[02:40] <pleanbean> Ok so I have to reformat my drive?
[02:40] <Dr_Willis> EleanorEllis:  ext4 has been the default for several releases now.   I have linux media players that are going on 6+ yrs old. ;)
[02:40] <nrdb> I have a oddity here.  I have setup a computer with several Xen VM's the ping times to these are averaging about 20ms ... but when I ping another real computer I average about 1.5ms ... why speed difference?
[02:40] <EleanorEllis> Is ext4 any more reliable or faster than ext3 or is it just it can handle bigger drives?
[02:40] <Dr_Willis> pleanbean:  or resize the first primary partion perhaps. I dont use gpt.
[02:40] <Dr_Willis> EleanorEllis:  yes to all 3 ;)
[02:41] <EleanorEllis> Fine. I will use ext4 tjem
[02:41] <wylde> pleanbean: what Dr_Willis said. I don't use gpt either
[02:41] <pleanbean> What do you guys use then?
[02:42] <Dr_Willis> older pcs use the normal msdos mbr stuff
[02:42] <wylde> pleanbean: plain old MBR with ext4 here
[02:42] <Dr_Willis> gpt has only in the last year or so gotten more commonplace
[02:42] <pleanbean> OK
[02:42] <EleanorEllis> I do wish the install partitioner made the distinction between GB and GiB. I keep calculating the partion sizes wrong!
[02:44] <pleanbean> Dr_Willis, now I need a bios_boot, swap space, / and /home partitions?
[02:44] <bonhoeffer> is there a shortcut to type in the file manager to manually enter a path
[02:44] <bonhoeffer> ?
[02:45] <EleanorEllis> Is there any advantage to having more than the RAM size for the swap partition? Out of 41.1GB I have 29GB for windows, 10GB for ubuntu, leaving 2110MB for swap but the machine only has 1 GiB of RAM
[02:46] <pleanbean> Should I use Logical Volume Management?
[02:46] <vemacs> EleanorEllis: If you're that low on RAM, you might want to look into zram
[02:47] <vemacs> compressed block device, definitely faster than swap, works wonders on my netbook
[02:47] <vemacs> sudo apt-get install zram-config
[02:47] <vemacs> and no, not really. you don't want to be swapping that badly.
[02:48] <wilee-nilee> EleanorEllis, generally all you need for swap is slightly more than ram.
[02:48] <vemacs> better yet, don't swap.
[02:48] <vemacs> zram or more RAM :P
[02:48] <EleanorEllis> vemacs: Its an old PC, it can only take 1GB of RAM
[02:49] <vemacs> EleanorEllis: You might want to look into zram then.
[02:49] <vemacs> With it, unity runs very smoothly on my 1GB netbook
[02:49] <Psil0Cybin> hey TJ
[02:49] <Psil0Cybin> see i got disconnected again i cannot find a solution
[02:49] <Psil0Cybin> sigh
[02:49] <TJ-> Psil0Cybin: have you monitored the log files to see what they show when the disconnect occurs?
[02:50] <Psil0Cybin> where would the log files be
[02:50] <Psil0Cybin> for Wifi
[02:50] <wilee-nilee> EleanorEllis, I would set the swappiness to a lower number than the stock 60 is all, like 5-10
[02:51] <wylde> EleanorEllis: if you ever want to "sleep" the machine you need swap anyway.
[02:51] <vemacs> in fact, I would suggest a lighter distro
[02:51] <vemacs> like lubuntu or such.
[02:51] <EleanorEllis> wilee-nilee: I dont know how to set swappiness, what does that do?
[02:52] <vemacs> EleanorEllis: this article should answer all your questions: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwapFaq
[02:52] <TJ-> Psil0Cybin: Open a terminal and then run "tail -f /var/log/syslog | grep NetworkManager | tee /tmp/nm.log" and keep watching it. As soon as the disconnect happens press Ctrl+C to stop it. The message you saw have been saved into a text file at "/tmp/nm.log" so you can upload its contents to pastebin so we can view it.
[02:52] <vemacs> See: How much swap do I need? and What is swappiness and how do I change it?
[02:52] <EleanorEllis> Besides I'm only doing an OEM install on it so I can give the machine away. I dont want to spend too much time on it. Can I install zRAM in an OEM install without setting up a user?
[02:53] <vemacs> Yes. You can possibly log into that install from a live CD/USB
[02:53] <vemacs> and apt-get install zram-config.
[02:53] <wilee-nilee> EleanorEllis, Lots of info on the web here is one that should help. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwapFaq#What_is_swappiness_and_how_do_I_change_it.3F
[02:54] <vemacs> EleanorEllis: there is a temporary OEM account you can use
[02:54] <vemacs> see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Ubuntu_OEM_Installer_Overview
[02:54] <vemacs> you can use that to install updates, configure swappiness, install zram, etc...
[02:54] <jmgk> Do companies sell Ubuntu on regular pc's now
[02:54] <jmgk> ?
[02:54] <vemacs> yep.
[02:54] <jmgk> oh
[02:54] <jmgk> I was wondering
[02:54] <EleanorEllis> jmgk: I gather Dell did for a while but I dont know if they still do
[02:55] <Psil0Cybin> i type in tail -f /var/log/syslog | grep NetworkManager | tee /tmp/nm.log TJ
[02:55] <Psil0Cybin> it does nothing
[02:55] <jmgk> I see
[02:55] <TJ-> Psil0Cybin: hang on, did you reinstall Network Manager after you tried wicd?
[02:55] <Psil0Cybin> yup
[02:55] <Psil0Cybin> im using it now
[02:55] <TJ-> Psil0Cybin: OK, then, when it reports something the messages will appear
[02:56] <Psil0Cybin> kk
[02:56] <TJ-> Psil0Cybin: If you want to be sure Network Manager is logging to syslog, in a terminal do "grep NetworkManager /var/log/syslog" and you should see all messages from it. If you see nothing, its possible it is logging to a different file
[02:57] <Psil0Cybin> it might be TJ i see nothing
[02:57] <Psil0Cybin> just that it is waiting
[02:58] <pleanbean> Wow this is absurdly frustrating
[02:59] <TJ-> Psil0Cybin: If syslog currently has no NetworkManager messages then we need to find out which file they're going to! Try this: "grep NetworkManager /var/log/*/log" and see which files (if any) are listed.
[02:59] <TJ-> Psil0Cybin: Typo!! try this instead: "grep NetworkManager /var/log/*/.og" and see which files (if any) are listed.
[03:00] <TJ-> oh fooey my typos are getting worse!
[03:00] <TJ-> Psil0Cybin: Typo!! try this instead: "grep NetworkManager /var/log/*.log" and see which files (if any) are listed.
[03:00] <Psil0Cybin> Oct  1 22:49:10 TheHive NetworkManager[984]: <info> Activation (wlan0) Stage 5 of 5 (IPv4 Commit) started...
[03:00] <Psil0Cybin> Oct  1 22:49:11 TheHive NetworkManager[984]: <info> DNS: starting dnsmasq...
[03:00] <Psil0Cybin> Oct  1 22:49:11 TheHive NetworkManager[984]: <error> [1380682151.340969] [nm-dns-dnsmasq.c:393] update(): dnsmasq not available on the bus, can't update servers.
[03:00] <Psil0Cybin> Oct  1 22:49:11 TheHive NetworkManager[984]: <error> [1380682151.341015] [nm-dns-dnsmasq.c:395] update(): dnsmasq owner not found on bus: Could not get owner of name 'uk.org.thekelleys.dnsmasq': no such name
[03:00] <Psil0Cybin> Oct  1 22:49:11 TheHive NetworkManager[984]: <warn> DNS: plugin dnsmasq update failed
[03:00] <FloodBot1> Psil0Cybin: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:01] <TJ-> Psil0Cybin: pastebin the entries so we can all view them
[03:02] <Psil0Cybin> TJ-: http://pastebin.com/0XPVFhCT
[03:03] <barrett> i want to search for a string in all all files *.nfo recursively.  I tried #find Folder -name *.nfo | grep -i string   but that only greps the list out of "find" how can I search the contents of the files?
[03:04] <xubuntu> hey
[03:04] <xubuntu> Okay i don't know why I'm named xubuntu
[03:04] <somsip> barrett: grep -ir string *.nfo (I think)
[03:04] <TJ-> Psil0Cybin: Was that everything, or just what was left in the terminal window?
[03:04] <Psil0Cybin> no just the warning
[03:04] <TJ-> Psil0Cybin: That looks like the final part of the reconnect... the messages we need to see will be from before that, when it disconnected.
[03:05] <Guest31461> anyhow. Guys, I'm in deep crap here. I changed some driver stuff and crashed an install of xubuntu. Decided to reinstall via my live usb, but it fails saying grub couldn't install in /dev/sda, this is a fatal error
[03:05] <bamphomet> anyone have a Realtek 8188EE wireless card working with ubuntu?
[03:05] <TJ-> Psil0Cybin: If you've not stopped the message capture by pressing Ctrl+C do that now, then use a text editor to load "/tmp/nm.log" and pastebin its entire contents, please
[03:05] <Guest31461> I think it has something to do with my hardrives being in RAID
[03:06] <Guest31461> And now grub isn't recognizing them
[03:06] <Guest31461> But I can't install Ubuntu so my whole laptop is dead in the water except for this live usb
[03:06] <TJ-> Guest31461: From the liveISO you'll need to manually configure the live environment to assemble and mount the RAID devices first
[03:06] <Psil0Cybin> im running this command
[03:06] <Psil0Cybin> grep NetworkManager /var/log/*/log
[03:06] <Psil0Cybin> TJ
[03:06] <Psil0Cybin> do you want me to post everything
[03:06] <Psil0Cybin> ?
[03:06] <FloodBot1> Psil0Cybin: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:07] <Guest31461> TJ-: what's the best way to do that?
[03:07] <TJ-> Psil0Cybin: No, if the output in pastebin you showed us a few minutes ago was the result of that command, its not useful right now.
[03:08] <Psil0Cybin> oh
[03:08] <Psil0Cybin> okay
[03:08] <Psil0Cybin> my lease time is set at 4320 on my router
[03:08] <Psil0Cybin> is that fine?>
[03:08] <Guest31461> TJ-: I found a program called mdadm, is that the right thing I should be looking into?
[03:08] <TJ-> Guest31461: Depends on how you configured the RAID; only you know that. Probably you'll need mdadm and maybe the lvm toosl too, depending on configuration
[03:08] <pleanbean> Can someone have a look at this BootRepair paste
[03:08] <pleanbean> And tell me why I can't boot into Ubuntu?
[03:09] <pleanbean> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6182253/
[03:09] <Guest31461> TJ-: I didn't configure the RAID. This is a new laptop that came in RAID
[03:09] <TJ-> Psil0Cybin: 4320 in seconds? So about 72 minutes?
[03:09] <Guest31461> TJ-:It worked the first time I installed Ubuntu, it's just after it crashed I can't reinstall it anymore
[03:10] <TJ-> Guest31461: You'll need to find out how it is configured then. If its hardware RAID it shouldn't affect the OS, but if its soft-raid you'll need to use the correct tools to reassemble the RAID array
[03:10] <Guest31461> TJ-:/dev/mapper shows my RAID configuration, but I'm really not sure what to do with that. Can I just link it to /dev/sda or something?
[03:10] <Guest31461> TJ-:And I believe it's hardware raid
[03:11] <pleanbean> Can someone please help me?
[03:11] <TJ-> Guest31461: No you can't link it. The device nodes in /dev/mapper/ are created by dmsetup and tools that call its library.
[03:12] <Guest31461> TJ-: So I do need to reassemble them?
[03:13] <Guest31461> TJ-: I mean it's that or I can try to save my old XUbuntu config, it just goes to black screen where I can't type after showing the xubuntu logo briefly
[03:14] <EleanorEllis> This PC I am rebuilding is a Dell Dimension 2400 with 1GB RAM, twin 40GB hard disks and a Celeron 2.8GHz processor. Just looked on Ebay and someone bought one for £66! Unbelievable. Cheapest one sold for under a tenner. I will throw in a 19" 1280*1024 monitor so hopefully the charity shop should be able to get something reasonable for it.
[03:15] <TJ-> Guest31461: I don't know if you do need to assemble the array or not; because I don't know the RAID configuration. You're the only one can sort that out since you have control of the PC. It's a complex area not suited to trying to support over IRC, it needs hands-on to ensure no mistakes are made
[03:15] <EleanorEllis> For that money I really can't be bothered to flog it on Ebay
[03:16] <Guest31461> TJ-: sounds way out of my league
[03:17] <Guest31461> TJ-: I think I'm better off trying to fix the whole xubuntu not loading thing, I'll try that in the chat
[03:18] <TJ-> Guest31461: Yes, that might be best... you might save a lot of pain in the long run, it might be something a little easier!
[03:18] <Guest31461> I'm running Xubuntu and after changing a synaptics and mtracker value in my xorgs, then logging out, the whole system went black screen. I'm unable to type when this happens. After rebooting, the xubuntu logo shows for a second, then it goes back to black screen. What did I do and can I fix it?
[03:19] <TJ-> Guest31461: If you interrupt GRUB by holding Shift down as the PC starts, then use one of the Recovery options, you might be able to get to a single-user root recovery shell
[03:19] <TJ-> Guest31461: IF you can get to the recovery root shell, you're in a position to investigate and fix
[03:19] <Guest31461> TJ-: Now that sounds useful. I could get into my xorg files then?
[03:19] <TJ-> Guest31461: precisely :)
[03:20] <Guest31461> TJ-: Hell. Yes. You are a life saver
[03:20] <Guest31461> TJ-: I guess you'll know it didn't work if I'm back in here in a second.
[03:20] <wilee-nilee> pleanbean, uefi is not a high channel help area, combined with lvm makes it even harder I would use the ubuntu forums as well.
[03:21] <pleanbean> I've been using the Ubuntu forums but I haven't had much success
[03:21] <pleanbean> And I'm not trying to wait a couple hours each time I have a question
[03:21] <TJ-> Guest31461: The first thing to do is inspect the log-files in /var/log/. List them by most recently changed using "ls -latr /var/log/". The most recent files are at the end of the list. Choose from amongst them and read them with a text viewer. E.g. "less /var/log/kern.log" or "less /var/log/Xorg.0.log" ... "less" is a pager so you can move through the files easily
[03:22] <camel_> how can i use ubuntu vist abroad websites
[03:22] <codex> pleanbean: sounds like you need to pay for support
[03:22] <wilee-nilee> pleanbean, here is a general thread there you want this authors help, they will stop by your thread if the header at the least has uefi in it. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2147295
[03:23] <wilee-nilee> camel_, Can you explain this in more detail?
[03:23] <Dr_Willis__> pleanbean:  its also possible if the hard drive is totally unpartitioned and you tell the installer to use the whole hard drive. it may partition it as needed.
[03:23] <pleanbean> Dr_Willis__ I just tried that, no success
[03:24] <Dr_Willis__> i also seem to recall some pcs/mbs have options to use nongpt setups. but im just going from what ive heard in here.
[03:25] <camel_> there are a great fireware prevent me to vist abroad website
[03:26] <saik0> the nut init script has a poweroff action, I'm not sure how this is called by init/upstart, can somebody point me to some docs?
[03:27] <wilee-nilee> camel_, What is your native language, there are many ubuntu channels for natives, you might get answers there.
[03:27] <Dr_Willis__> !upstart | saik0
[03:28] <pleanbean> Alright, now LVM did some stuff and I can't repartition my drive
[03:28] <camel_> yeah ,but if you have a idea ,more better
[03:28] <Dr_Willis__> camel_:  what you have said - makes very little sence.
[03:29] <Dr_Willis__> camel_:  you mean your isps fireWALL is blocking you?
[03:29] <camel_> sorry ,there is something wrong in my words
[03:29] <saik0> Dr_Willis__: Right, I've searched that for "poweroff" and it has no matches.
[03:29] <EleanorEllis> !offtopic
[03:29] <camel_> yeah, the firewall stop me
[03:30] <Dr_Willis__> saik0:  the shutdown and perhaps other commands have poweroff options also
[03:30] <wilee-nilee> !cn | camel_
[03:30] <Dr_Willis__> camel_:  so use a proxy, or vps, i guess. not really a ubuntu support specific issue
[03:30] <wilee-nilee> ip is china
[03:31] <camel_> hehe ,you are right ,you have known where i am from
[03:31] <jmgk> Greetings camel_
[03:31] <pleanbean> Dr_Willis__: For some reason I can't create a partition table for my drive because of lvm
[03:31] <jmgk> ::)
[03:31] <Dr_Willis__> pleanbean:  you could use dd to zero out the hard drive and repartition. but ive never used lvm, there may better ways to unlvm a drive
[03:32] <Dr_Willis__> 'un-lvm' ;)
[03:32] <camel_> I have an another question ,do you often use python to program
[03:32] <Dr_Willis__> python is a common and popular language camel_
[03:35] <camel_> yeah ,i know ,do you have any works on it
[03:35] <TJ-> pleanbean: What tool(s) are you using to do the partitioning?
[03:35] <pleanbean> TJ-: Gparted
[03:35] <bazhang> !ot | camel_
[03:36] <TJ-> pleanbean: From within the Ubuntu installer, or from a LiveISO session, or some other way?
[03:36] <wilee-nilee> camel_, Do you want to have the windows, and do you gave it cloned if so?
[03:36] <Dr_Willis__> bbl
[03:36] <wilee-nilee> have*
[03:37] <pleanbean> TJ-: A LiveISO session, and I've also done it within the Ubuntu installer
[03:37] <TJ-> pleanbean: And is it OK to totally clear/wipe the drive before starting over? Or is there something on there that has to be kept?
[03:37] <pleanbean> No I can totally wipe it
[03:38] <pleanbean> Right now I'm trying to figure out how to do that
[03:38] <camel_> when i used ubuntu ,I find that it's the future
[03:38] <TJ-> pleanbean: OK, lets do this the easy way. Close the gparted GUI and open a shell terminal so we can use the command line
[03:38] <pleanbean> OK
[03:38] <pleanbean> Command line open
[03:38] <TJ-> pleanbean: Does the liveISO PC have network connectivity right now? Can it get to the Internet?
[03:38] <pleanbean> Yes
[03:39] <TJ-> pleanbean: OK, lets install a helpful tool if it isn't already there: "sudo apt-get install pastebinit"
[03:39] <barrett> i'm trying to do a recursive grep for the string "DVD" in all files *.nfo   but grep -r "DVD" *.nfo   says "*.nfo: No such file or directory" yet there are tons of those files in subdirectories of the current directory.  What am I doing wrong?
[03:40] <pleanbean> Ok
[03:40] <pleanbean> TJ-: Got pastebinit
[03:41] <TJ-> pleanbean: OK, lets find out what, if anything, is currently mounted: "mount | pastebinit" ... and give us the URL it provides so we can view the output
[03:41] <pleanbean> paste.ubuntu.com/6182322
[03:41] <HardlyNeutral> @barrett Try this link: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/1225603/grep-a-string-recursively-in-all-htaccess-files. It references a different file type but the methodology should be the same.
[03:42] <TJ-> pleanbean: Good. No LVM volumes mounted to get in the way
[03:42] <wilee-nilee> TJ-, Not sure if you would want it but pleanbean has a boot info script posted as well.
[03:42] <barrett> HardlyNeutral, thanks
[03:42] <TJ-> wilee-nilee: Yeah, I have read through it
[03:42] <wilee-nilee> cool
[03:42] <pleanbean> :0
[03:43] <pleanbean> :) *
[03:44] <TJ-> pleanbean: OK, /dev/sda is the 1TB drive. It has an EFI boot partition (sda1). That contains some Microsoft Windows boot files. Do you need to keep those?
[03:44] <pleanbean> Nope
[03:44] <HardlyNeutral> barrett, no problem
[03:46] <TJ-> pleanbean: lets see what GPT tools are available: "which sgdisk" ... does it show a path or nothing at all?
[03:46] <pleanbean> nothing
[03:47] <TJ-> pleanbean: do "sudo apt-get install gdisk"
[03:47] <pleanbean> Done
[03:47] <TJ-> pleanbean: Let's find out what's on there: "sudo gdisk -l /dev/sda | pastebinit"
[03:48] <pleanbean> paste.ubuntu.com/6182350
[03:49] <camel_> how can i compile a wireless drive in ubuntu 10.04
[03:50] <KnownSyntax> camel_ is the driver for Linux or is there only a Windows version?
[03:50] <abaddon> camel_: do you have the source code?
[03:50] <camel_> for linux
[03:50] <camel_> i don't have source code
[03:51] <TJ-> pleanbean: OK, let's try the first and easiest approach. We'll wipe the GPT info from sda so it appears to be a raw unused new drive, and then you run the Ubuntu installer and let it do its own choice of partitioning, ensuring that 'sda' is chosen as the boot device.
[03:51] <abaddon> camel_: Do you have the files needed to compile?
[03:51] <TJ-> pleanbean: If that fails, we can intervene later
[03:51] <pleanbean> Ok
[03:51] <pleanbean> For the record I tried that already but lets do it again!
[03:51] <pleanbean> How do I wipe the GPT info?
[03:52] <TJ-> pleanbean: so to wipe the GPT info: "sudo sgdisk --clear /dev/sda"
[03:52] <camel_> no
[03:52] <pleanbean> Ok
[03:52] <TJ-> pleanbean: Then check the info is gone with "sudo gdisk -l /dev/sda" ... it should tell you there's no MBR or GPT and no partitions
[03:52] <abaddon> camel_: , Ok, what is the driver you are trying to get?
[03:52] <camel_> i have a linux ,but it can't find the wifi signal
[03:52] <Paulus68_1> is there a way that I can directly import my outlook 2010 pst into thunderbird?
[03:53] <abaddon> camel_: Ubuntu distro?
[03:53] <TJ-> pleanbean: The reason we're doing it again from scratch is, I can follow along knowing exactly what should be where, so that if it fails to boot, I can guide you to repair it accurately
[03:53] <pleanbean> paste.ubuntu.com/6182363
[03:53] <abaddon> camel_: SORRY, DERP
[03:53] <camel_> ubuntu10.04
[03:54] <bazhang> camel_, thats not supported any longer
[03:54] <abaddon> camel_: ok, type in a terminal sudo ifconfig
[03:54] <bazhang> camel_, upgrade your ubuntu version
[03:54] <zykotick9> bazhang: on desktop ;)
[03:54] <camel_> but my linux is based on it
[03:54] <TJ-> pleanbean: Nice and clean. Start the Ubiquity installer and let it do automatic partitioning, ensuring 'sda' is selected in the boot-loader selection.
[03:54] <abaddon> camel_: What do you see?
[03:54] <pleanbean> Ubiquity installer?
[03:55] <bazhang> zykotick9, he's asking for wireless help, and thats pretty clear
[03:55] <TJ-> pleanbean: "Ubiquity" is the name of the Ubuntu Installer :p
[03:55] <bazhang> camel_, is this MINT?
[03:55] <camel_> yeah
[03:55] <TJ-> pleanbean: In other words, start the installer :)
[03:55] <pleanbean> Ok
[03:55] <KingJoffrey> hello
[03:55] <wylde> camel_: what's the output of lsb_relase -sc
[03:55] <bazhang> camel_, MINT is not supported here
[03:55] <wylde> camel_: what's the output of lsb_release -sc
[03:55] <bazhang> !mintsupport | camel_
[03:56] <zykotick9> wylde: we already know it's mint... doesn't matter what version.
[03:56] <wylde> zykotick9: alrighty
[03:57] <camel_> it's not the linux i using
[03:57] <pleanbean> TJ-: Should I select "Something else"?
[03:58] <TJ-> pleanbean: No! Select the automatic partitioning options, with LVM. (I can't recall the exact wording of the options now)
[03:58] <pleanbean> OK. Theres nowhere to ensure 'sea' is selected in the boot-loader selection though
[03:58] <abaddon> camel_: in the term type sudo ifconfig. If you see lo, lan, and/or wlan0 then it's not a driver issue
[03:58] <zykotick9> camel_: you're using mint, that's not supported in #ubuntu at all.  seek support in mint's channel.
[03:58] <pleanbean> 'sda'*
[03:58] <TJ-> pleanbean: That comes later
[03:58] <camel_> ok ,i got it
[03:59] <abaddon> camel_: got what?
[03:59] <pleanbean> Should I use advanced partitioning tool at all?
[03:59] <camel_> i will try next time
[03:59] <TJ-> pleanbean: I recall it used to be the final dialog where you confirm the settings, before it starts, but the installer has become more active lately, doing things in the background before you've finished entering all the configuration details :)
[03:59] <camel_> hehe
[04:00] <abaddon> camel_: ???
[04:00] <TJ-> pleanbean: hang on. Which version of Ubuntu are you installing? I need to check what options you're seeing at this point
[04:00] <pleanbean> TJ-: 13.04
[04:01] <TJ-> pleanbean: OK, let me check. I've been installing 13.10 alot recently and it changed a lot in that area, so I need to refresh my memory on 13.04
[04:01] <camel_> i will type sudo ifconfig as i use mint next time
[04:01] <pleanbean> I can install 13.10 instead
[04:02] <abaddon> camel_: I thought you had ubu? Not mint?
[04:02] <pleanbean> Never mind lets stick with 13.04
[04:02] <abaddon> camel_: though, the command will work there as well
[04:03] <abaddon> camel_: if you have wlan0 in ifconfig then you have wireless. But ether the wifi switch is off or no network manager is running
[04:03] <camel_> i startup network manager ,but it said there are no wifi
[04:04] <abaddon> camel_: For ubu or mint?
[04:04] <camel_> ubu
[04:04] <TJ-> pleanbean: OK, I'm looking at the steps and screen-shots on this page. Are you at step 4? http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/install-desktop-latest
[04:04] <bateee> Hi, does any one know, how to configure pam_faildelay to delay the failed login attempts in ubuntu 12.04?
[04:04] <bazhang> camel_, you're using MINT, dont ask for support here
[04:04] <pleanbean> TJ- Essentially yes, but it doesn't look exactly the same.
[04:05] <TJ-> pleanbean: Presumably, you don't see the mentions of Windows?
[04:05] <pleanbean> TJ-: Exactly. I'm actually on step 6 I hope I didn't go too far
[04:06] <pleanbean> TJ-: I selected sda as the drive
[04:06] <pleanbean> Tj-: In step 5, that is
[04:06] <TJ-> pleanbean: OK, I think you're good to carry on. As long as you've let the installer decide on the partitioning rather than got involved in doing it manually
[04:06] <abaddon> camel_: well, if wlan0 is in the ifconfig listing then you could try sudo ifconfig wlan0 up
[04:06] <pleanbean> TJ-: Okay, I'm going to go ahead and install. I'll be back if it doesn't work.
[04:07] <camel_> o ,i see
[04:07] <abaddon> camel_: that should switch it on unless the hardware switch on the laptop or desktop is torned to the off button
[04:07] <TJ-> pleanbean: OK ... good luck... and remember, when you reboot the PC, unplug the liveISO device, and also ensure that the BIOS/firmware boot order is set to try booting from the hard drive :)
[04:07] <beavis> thatdude
[04:08] <beavis> need help
[04:08] <abaddon> camel_: If no wlan0 is found BUT eth0 is seen then get an ethernet cbl
[04:08] <pleanbean> TJ-: That's how I've been doing it. We'll see if this time is any different.
[04:09] <abaddon> camel_: then search for the needed drivers for your male/model laptop or desktop
[04:09] <camel_> what you mean ,my wireless card is not support
[04:10] <geektech713> what version of Ubuntu?
[04:10] <bateee> Hi, does any one know, how to configure pam_faildelay to delay the failed login attempts in Ubuntu 12.04? I know the configuration, but I don't know the exact file where it should be configured. Is it /etc/pam.d/common-password?
[04:10] <TJ-> pleanbean: If it fails to boot, we can boot the liveISO and then manually mount the new installation, chroot into it, and fix it
[04:10] <abaddon> camel_: Im not saying it isn't. it's just not possibly installed from the get go. eth0 is usually seen though which will allow you to connect to the net to do some searching
[04:11] <pleanbean> TJ-: Great, I'll let you know.
[04:11] <TJ-> pleanbean: I'm duplicating it here in a virtual machine
[04:11] <geektech713> just turn on wireless on ubuntu its takes some time i hve no issues
[04:11] <pleanbean> TJ-: I hope this isn't a BIOS issue, I've been getting some "CPU Over Temperature Errors" lately
[04:12] <TJ-> pleanbean: What make/model is the PC?
[04:12] <pleanbean> TJ-: Custom made
[04:12] <camel_> o
[04:13] <pleanbean> TJ-: Intel p67 mobo
[04:13] <abaddon> camel_: Yup, but I agree with the guys here. You should upgrade the os to at least Ubu 12.10
[04:14] <geektech713> 13.04
[04:14] <geektech713> why go with old stuff
[04:14] <wilee-nilee> 12.04 is the lt
[04:14] <geektech713> better drivers
[04:15] <abaddon> camel_: But, if nyou don't like the layout of Unity you can change it to Gnome, or Kde, or other Window environs/Desktop environs
[04:15] <geektech713> omg unity is so easy
[04:15] <camel_> but my os is based on 10.04, can i upgrade it
[04:15] <Dr_Willis> well isent 12.04.x using the newer kenrel from the newer reelases
[04:15] <Dr_Willis> camel_:  you can alwyas upgrade.. but a clean install maybe faster
[04:15] <lotuspsychje> morning to all
[04:15] <abaddon> camel_: Yes?? I'm not sure what you are worried about?
[04:16] <camel_> I am worried about the os's tools
[04:17] <abaddon> camel_: What tools o you fear loosing?
[04:17] <camel_> nothing,i will try next time
[04:18] <Dr_Willis> os tools?
[04:18] <abaddon> camel_: Ok mate, sorry I couldn't hlp much
[04:18] <camel_> thanks for your help
[04:19] <camel_> you make me know much
[04:19] <abaddon> Hey, does anyone know if weechat has support for pre selected IRC sites? Like, xchat's function for dropping you into a site through automation?
[04:19] <pleanbean> TJ-: No success, still boots to a black screen with blinking cursor
[04:20] <pleanbean> TJ-: I'm back in Ubuntu LiveOS
[04:20] <TJ-> pleanbean: I'm guessing you chose "Erase disk and install Ubuntu", and ticked "Use LVM with the new Ubuntu installation" ?
[04:20] <pleanbean> TJ-: Yes
[04:20] <orcadian> Hey can anyone help me with a fan issue?
[04:20] <TJ-> pleanbean: OK. let me catch up with you!
[04:20] <kaysee> hey
[04:20] <abaddon> camel_: Always glad to help. =] cheers and good luck
[04:21] <kaysee> whatz up !
[04:21] <TJ-> pleanbean: When you hit the 'blinking cursor', did you try holding down Shift as the PC boots to access the GRUB boot menu? I'm trying to determine how far into the start-up it got.
[04:21] <pleanbean> TJ-: I'll try that now
[04:21] <camel_> Do you know a news ,a rover study program a month and will release his own app
[04:21] <orcadian> My problem is that my fan is allways running and my temp are only 24 degrees (celsius)..so my fan shouldnt be running at all
[04:22] <orcadian> and yes its  a laptop..and it has optimus tech, but i have installed bumblebee
[04:22] <pleanbean> TJ-: Held down shift, no difference - still went to blinking cursor
[04:22] <TJ-> pleanbean: OK, that should tell us the problem is with the BIOS, not with the installation.
[04:23] <camel_> Thank you ,abaddon
[04:23] <lotuspsychje> whats the packagename again to measure what slowing boot?
[04:23] <TJ-> pleanbean: what is the make/model of the motherboard, I want to research its BIOS options
[04:24] <pleanbean> TJ-: ASUS P8P67 EVO (REV 3.0) LGA 1155 Intel P67 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard
[04:24] <abaddon> camel_: Np, were you adressing the question to m e when you were asking about the news, rover study thing?
[04:25] <camel_> yeah ,i saw the news ,how can he get it
[04:25] <abaddon> camel_: Sorry, how can who get the news?
[04:26] <TJ-> pleanbean: Read this... especially the 2nd message. That makes me ask "which connector and controller is the HDD connected to? "
[04:26] <TJ-> pleanbean: http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?t=2148858
[04:27] <camel_> i say  why the rove learn so fast
[04:27] <geektech713> get an A+ cert
[04:28] <pleanbean> TJ-: Hmm I'm not sure, how do I know which is the Marvel and which is the Intel SATA controller?
[04:28] <lotuspsychje> guys lets stick to ubuntu support
[04:28] <TJ-> pleanbean: I suspect, by reading the manual?
[04:28] <camel_> i hope to get a teacher or a guider
[04:28] <pleanbean> TJ-: Yeah haha let me go do that
[04:28] <geektech713> better off getting A+ cert ..
[04:29] <abaddon> camel_: Oh, I'm not sure. The rover has I'm sure thousands of algarhythems that allow it to judge data and asses it. It's psuido AI. It's not in my domain of underrstanding.
[04:29] <camel_> where are you from abaddon
[04:29] <wylde> !ot | camel_ abaddon
[04:29] <abaddon> camel_: Born in Russia; live in the US
[04:29] <Psil0Cybin> hey TJ- im back
[04:29] <Psil0Cybin> im still having troubles
[04:29] <Psil0Cybin> anything else you can think of?
[04:29] <TJ-> pleanbean: On page 2-3 of the manual, items 8 and 9 and 10
[04:30] <pleanbean> TJ-: Send me the document you're looking at
[04:30] <TJ-> Psil0Cybin: Without logs, no. We need firm diagnostic info
[04:30] <pleanbean> TJ-: Never mind, I got it
[04:30] <Psil0Cybin> TJ-: what log would i be lookign @ again
[04:30] <abaddon> camel, to join another irc, type /join #ubuntu-offtopic we can chat there
[04:30] <Psil0Cybin> so i can monitor and make sure i can post the proper logs
[04:33] <TJ-> pleanbean: Looking at the firmware's "Boot" tab (section 3.7) it shows "Hard Drive BBS Priorities" as a sub-menu. I think you need to check that. Also, you might need to ensure the SATA controllers are in AHCI mode.
[04:33] <TJ-> Psil0Cybin: Whichever log-file is receiving messages from NetworkManager
[04:33] <Psil0Cybin> what was the command again TJ sorry
[04:34] <abaddon> camel_: type /join #ubuntu-offtopic to chat there. This is the help forum.
[04:36] <TJ-> pleanbean: Read page 2-22 *carefully* ... "The SATA6G_E1/E2 (navy blue) connectors are for DATA drives only."
[04:38] <TJ-> Psil0Cybin: first confirm which log-file is receiving the NetworkManager messages with "sudo grep NetworkManager /var/log/{syslog,*.log}", then next time the wifi disconnects, review that file looking at the messages at the time of the disconnect and leading up to it... pastebin them, and ask someone to review them for clues as to why it disconnected
[04:39] <Psil0Cybin> okay
[04:39] <Psil0Cybin> so id just paste the output of
[04:39] <Psil0Cybin> sudo grep NetworkManager /var/log/{syslog,*.log}
[04:39] <Psil0Cybin> okay
[04:39] <FloodBot1> Psil0Cybin: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:40] <TJ-> Psil0Cybin: No! You'd use that command to identify WHICH log-file to check later when a disconnect occurs.
[04:40] <TJ-> Psil0Cybin: That command will prefix each line of files that mention NetworkManager with the filename. That is the info that command is designed to get you... the filename
[04:41] <geektech713> i thought ubuntu sever had another channel
[04:41] <lotuspsychje> geektech713: it does
[04:41] <geektech713> what yall live on command lines in ubuntu?
[04:41] <lotuspsychje> geektech713: #ubuntu-server
[04:41] <geektech713> i figured
[04:42] <geektech713> i had ubuntu server ..forums were good enough info on them
[04:42] <geektech713> to get GUI on the server side
[04:44] <TJ-> pleanbean: Any progress? Have you inspected the SATA connection for the 1TB drive to confirm it is NOT on one of those Marvell controller SATA connectors?
[04:47] <pleanbean> TJ-: Hey, made sure its in the Intel controller. Still getting blinking cursor. I'm back in LiveOS
[04:48] <TJ-> pleanbean: OK... did you also go into the motherboard setup and ensure the boot order options include that drive?
[04:49] <pleanbean> TJ- Yep.
[04:51] <Psil0Cybin> TJ-: could this help
[04:51] <Psil0Cybin> http://pastebin.com/6LNZ2YDJ
[04:51] <Psil0Cybin> im not sure if i caught the problem
[04:51] <Psil0Cybin> or not
[04:51] <TJ-> pleanbean: OK... usually, the blinking cursor tells us that the firmware/BIOS hands over to GRUB, but then GRUB can't find the stage 1.5 files (for EFI that's the EFI boot 0xEF00 partition)
[04:51] <aliul> i cant open software center
[04:51] <aliul> in xubuntu 13.04
[04:51] <TJ-> Psil0Cybin: You star! :D  "00:31:19 TheHive NetworkManager[984]: <info> WiFi now disabled by radio killswitch"
[04:52] <Psil0Cybin> no nono
[04:52] <Psil0Cybin> that was me turning it off
[04:52] <Psil0Cybin> and on
[04:52] <Psil0Cybin> to get it working again
[04:52] <FloodBot1> Psil0Cybin: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:52] <Psil0Cybin> keep reading
[04:52] <pleanbean> TJ- Ok. Where should I go from here?
[04:52] <TJ-> Psil0Cybin: Oh fooey!
[04:52] <Psil0Cybin> i think at the bottom i get errors..
[04:52] <kingnick42> Ubuntu 12.04 64 bit, my wireless speeds fluctuate really really wildly, and drop out every so often, requiring to forget then reconnect to the network to pick it up again.
[04:52] <TJ-> pleanbean: I'm going to have you use the LiveISO to manually mount the installed system and then chroot into it to inspect it
[04:53] <kingnick42> Other devices right next to my laptop, over the same connection? Rock stable. My wireless card is an Intel Centrino N-1000, any ideas?
[04:53] <pleanbean> TJ0- Lets do it
[04:54] <Psil0Cybin> TJ-: /var/log/syslog:Oct  2 00:43:01 TheHive NetworkManager[984]: <info> Unmanaged Device found; state CONNECTED forced. (see http://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/191889) ?
[04:54] <Psil0Cybin> maybe
[04:55] <TJ-> Psil0Cybin: The WifI kill switch at 00:21:19 ... you did that as soon as it lost connectivity?
[04:55] <Psil0Cybin> TJ-: http://pastebin.com/2wbL11MX
[04:55] <TJ-> pleanbean: OK ... open a terminal
[04:55] <Psil0Cybin> here is the updaed one it just happend again
[04:55] <Psil0Cybin> so look @ the very bottom
[04:55] <Psil0Cybin> if it says kill switch again then that was not me
[04:55] <Psil0Cybin> it happend around 55-58
[04:55] <Psil0Cybin> 00:55-58
[04:56] <pleanbean> TJ- yep….
[04:56] <Psil0Cybin> TJ-: it looks like it just disconncets and reconnects?
[04:56] <Psil0Cybin> on its own? like im confused
[04:56] <Psil0Cybin> it keeps repeating the fact that its activating and connecting
[04:56] <Psil0Cybin> and finds my ip
[04:56] <lotuspsychje> kingnick42: what chipset you haveN
[04:57] <kingnick42> lotuspsychje, its an Intel i5m, sandy bridge.
[04:57] <kingnick42> Wirless card is an Intel Centrino N-1000
[04:57] <TJ-> Psil0Cybin: This is what you need to follow up, too, as well as that bug: "00:43:01 TheHive NetworkManager[984]: <info> radio killswitch /sys/devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:05.0/0000:02:00.0/ieee80211/phy0/rfkill2 disappeared"
[04:58] <lotuspsychje> kingnick42: anything unusual in /var/log/syslog.1 about wlan?
[04:58] <TJ-> pleanbean: reinstall the tools from earlier: "sudo apt-get install gdisk"
[04:59] <Psil0Cybin> TJ i cant find anything on <info> radio killswitch /sys/devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:05.0/0000:02:00.0/ieee80211/phy0/rfkill2 disappeared"
[05:00] <Psil0Cybin> Well the bug that was talked about above, does not affect me
[05:00] <Psil0Cybin> even tho it showed up in the logs
[05:00] <pleanbean> TJ-: got gdisk
[05:01] <TJ-> pleanbean: OK let's becom root to dispense with 'sudo' for every command. "sudo -i"
[05:01] <kingnick42> lotuspsychje, can I upload it to dropbox then give you the link?
[05:01] <TJ-> pleanbean: Then, "mkdir /target"
[05:01] <lotuspsychje> !paste | kingnick42
[05:01] <TJ-> pleanbean: oh, I forgot "apt-get install pastebinit"
[05:02] <kingnick42> lotuspsychje, ubottu, too long for a pastebin :) - I'll dropbox it :)
[05:02] <pleanbean> TJ-: Yep.
[05:03] <TJ-> pleanbean: then "ls /dev/mapper/ | pastebinit"
[05:03] <A1Recon> The system won't start now! Its stuck in the "Ubuntu loading screen"...it now in one of those black terminal screens and it says The PostgreSQL server failed to start.Please check the log output.
[05:03] <A1Recon> I was running a Ubuntu 13.04 / Win 7 dual boot.
[05:03] <pleanbean> paste.ubuntu.com/6182506
[05:04] <kingnick42> lotuspsychje,  https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/40295295/syslog.1
[05:05] <TJ-> pleanbean: "mount /dev/mapper/ubuntu--vg-root /target"
[05:06] <TJ-> pleanbean: then "pastebinit /target/etc/fstab"
[05:06] <pleanbean> 6182511
[05:07] <lotuspsychje> kingnick42: do you have wireless N enabled in router?
[05:08] <TJ-> pleanbean: "mount /dev/sda2 /target/boot" then "mount /dev/sda1 /target/boot/efi"
[05:08] <kingnick42> lotuspsychje, pretty sure
[05:08] <kingnick42> Haven't had wireless issues with the other distros I've had
[05:08] <lotuspsychje> kingnick42: you might wanna try to disable just for test on this wifi card
[05:09] <lotuspsychje> kingnick42: not sure if this is your case
[05:09] <kingnick42> lotuspsychje, so disable wireless N? Wouldn't that reduce my speed?
[05:09] <TJ-> pleanbean: Then "mount -t proc proc /target/proc"  then "mount -t sysfs sysfs /target/sys" then "mount -t devtmpfs udev /target/dev"
[05:09] <TJ-> pleanbean: To check everything: "mount | pastebinit"
[05:09] <lotuspsychje> kingnick42: its just to test out behaviour of your intel wifi card
[05:10] <lotuspsychje> kingnick42: re-enable if it doesnt stable your wifi connection
[05:11] <pleanbean> 6182535
[05:11] <kingnick42> lotuspsychje, ok I'm disabling it now
[05:13] <TJ-> pleanbean: You made a typo ("udex" instead of "udev"), we best correct it in case it affects things. "umount /target/dev" then "mount -t devtmpfs udev /target/dev"
[05:14] <pleanbean> 6182542
[05:15] <bateee> Hello, could someone please guide me to find a guideline for recommended settings for ubuntu server security audit configuration. I need to find out a standard set of rules that can be configured with auditing facility of ubuntu
[05:15] <TJ-> pleanbean: Good. Now lets change-root nto those mounts so we're in the actual installed environment and can change it. "chroot /target"
[05:15] <Braden`> Hello
[05:15] <wilee-nilee> bateee, You might ask in #ubuntu-server
[05:16] <Braden`> Which package is good to analyze traffic from apache logs?
[05:16] <pleanbean> TJ-: k
[05:16] <TJ-> pleanbean: Let's ensure it has network connectivity in case we need to install packages, or pastebinit. "ping -nc 5 ubuntu.com"
[05:16] <pleanbean> unknown host ubuntu.com
[05:16] <bateee> wilee-nilee, thanks.
[05:17] <TJ-> pleanbean: Ahhh!
[05:17] <wilee-nilee> no problem bateee
[05:17] <jmgk> hey wilee-nilee
[05:17] <jmgk> :)
[05:17] <wilee-nilee> hey
[05:17] <TJ-> pleanbean: OK. Type "exit" to return to the liveISO environment
[05:17] <A1Recon> How do I delete a folder which has a small lock icon on it? It says in Properties>Permissions "Owner: root. Access: Create and delete files". It also says "You are not the owner, so you cannot change these permissions."
[05:17] <Braden`> Anyone?
[05:17] <pleanbean> Ok exited
[05:17] <wilee-nilee> A1Recon, gksudo nautilus if that t=is the file manager]
[05:18] <TJ-> pleanbean: Then lets check for a resolver. does this command show any output? "cat /target/etc/resolv.conf"
[05:18] <kingnick42> lotuspsychje, N mode is disabled
[05:18] <pleanbean> No output
[05:21] <TJ-> pleanbean: OK... "mount --bind /etc/resolv.conf /target/etc/resolv.conf" then back into the target "chroot /target" and check again "ping -nc 5 ubuntu.com"
[05:21] <A1Recon> Wilee-nilee Thanks!
[05:22] <zykotick9> TJ-: why not copy the file to the chroot?
[05:22] <pleanbean> Success!
[05:23] <TJ-> zykotick9: because the host can change it dynamically, which might result in it becoming stale
[05:23] <TJ-> pleanbean: OK, "apt-get install gdisk pastebinit"
[05:23] <hzyg_> ls
[05:24] <zykotick9> TJ-: i suppose, i actually can't believe that "mount --bind ..." worked like that - rather cool actually.
[05:24] <r10101> hello guys I want to report a bug
[05:24] <zykotick9> !bug | r10101
[05:25] <kingnick42> lotuspsychje, what am I looking for now?
[05:25] <r10101> Im a newby in linux I type the command on terminal right?
[05:25] <pleanbean> TJ- Ok..
[05:26] <zykotick9> r10101: sidenote = either replace linux with ubuntu, OR use gnu/linux ;)
[05:26] <TJ-> pleanbean: Now lets do some work. "update-grub 2>&1 | tee /tmp/ug.log; pastebinit /tmp/ug.log"
[05:28] <pleanbean> 6182568
[05:29] <TJ-> pleanbean: And there's the error.
[05:29] <TJ-> pleanbean: "pastebinit /boot/grub/grub.cfg"
[05:29] <r10101> ubottu: I read the info but Im not quite sure is an abuntu problem or flash player problem the thing is that many many times youtube videos doesn't charge the audio and they are terrible slow in charging  so this an abuntu or flash player or youtube thing?
[05:30] <r10101> lol a robot answered me
[05:30] <lotuspsychje> kingnick42: see if your wifi is stable now?
[05:30] <pleanbean> 6182571
[05:30] <r10101> any human with this problem too?
[05:31] <Psil0Cybin> TJ-: http://pastebin.com/qV56QtWs
[05:31] <lotuspsychje> kingnick42: found also this: http://blog.mattgerkhardt.com/ubuntu-12-04-lts-wireless-issues-thinkpad-t410-intel-centrino-n-6200/
[05:31] <Psil0Cybin> i think i caught it again but this time its different
[05:31] <karab44> hello
[05:32] <r10101> any way I think I have done my work here its a bit annoying have to restart the pc any time this happen with youtube videos
[05:32] <TJ-> pleanbean: "ls -al /boot/grub/* | pastebinit"
[05:33] <lotuspsychje> r10101: are you sure your video driver is installed correctly?
[05:33] <pleanbean> 6182575
[05:34] <TJ-> Psil0Cybin: This looks bad: "SCPlugin-Ifupdown: devices removed (path: /sys/devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:05.0/0000:02:00.0/net/wlan0, iface: wlan0)" ... that would be caused by the hardware disappearing or the driver failing in some way
[05:34] <Psil0Cybin> what would be my first step in order to fix this?
[05:34] <Psil0Cybin> go back to an older kernal till a fix
[05:34] <Psil0Cybin> or ?
[05:35] <Psil0Cybin> this never used to happen >.<
[05:35] <r10101> lotuspsychje
[05:35] <r10101> lotuspsychje: I guess so
[05:35] <r10101> lotuspsychje: should I download it form the software center
[05:36] <r10101> let me take a look
[05:36] <lotuspsychje> r10101: ubuntu version? graphics card driver?
[05:36] <A1Recon> Can someone tell me how to make photorec look for specific type of files?
[05:36] <Guest8333> i need some help..i installed ubuntu 13.04 last week.but now when i reboot yesterday now it is not loading ubuntu..saying that you are running in low resolution graphics....what to do
[05:37] <lotuspsychje> A1Recon: never did specific file types, mostly scans it all
[05:37] <r10101> latest, dont know card driver
[05:37] <TJ-> Psil0Cybin: I'm not sure... the sysfs device entries disappearing suggests the driver is losing sight of the hardware and tearing down the associated nodes. I'm wondering if there's something causing an actual electrical glitch that causes the driver to lose comms with the hardware... possibly an IRQ issue, for instance. It's a hard one to diagnose from afar.
[05:37] <r10101> and it appears I have installed the flash player
[05:37] <lotuspsychje> A1Recon: will it take too long time, scanning all drive?
[05:37] <TJ-> pleanbean: Give me a few minutes, I need to read the grub.cfg carefully :)
[05:37] <Psil0Cybin> darn
[05:37] <Psil0Cybin> TJ
[05:37] <Psil0Cybin> so am i best off formatting/
[05:37] <Psil0Cybin> or would this happen again if i update
[05:37] <lotuspsychje> r10101: can you play high res video's in vlc?
[05:38] <r10101> lotuspsychje:  vlc?
[05:38] <lotuspsychje> r10101: or another video player
[05:38] <r10101> oh don't know I mustly used to see youtube videos
[05:39] <A1Recon> Lotuspsychje for my 600GB partition it took around 100 mins and found 180 GB of data(Not all of which I need).
[05:39] <lotuspsychje> r10101: doublecheck if you can play video's on your system
[05:39] <r10101> i can see the videos
[05:39] <r10101> lotuspsychje:  but it take a lot to charge and the sounds doesn't work
[05:40] <lotuspsychje> r10101: ubuntu version?
[05:40] <TJ-> Psil0Cybin: I'd be looking for the mailing-list of the developers of the ath9k module, and posting a question there. They will be able to provide specific suggestions on what to try.
[05:41] <lotuspsychje> A1Recon: http://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/Add_your_own_extension_to_PhotoRec
[05:42] <r10101> sorry I tried to close firefox to see it work and nope still without sound
[05:42] <r10101> if it work
[05:42] <kingnick42> lotuspsychje, it appears to be stable
[05:43] <Psil0Cybin> TJ-: sigh how come all the new linux users get such hard complicated problems >.<
[05:43] <Psil0Cybin> bah
[05:43] <lotuspsychje> kingnick42: ive read a few errors on wireless N and your chipset
[05:43] <kingnick42> so I should try running those two terminal commands lotuspsychje?
[05:43] <Psil0Cybin> god damn ath9k
[05:43] <Psil0Cybin> >.,
[05:43] <lotuspsychje> kingnick42: well if its stable, i would rather not
[05:43] <TJ-> pleanbean: OK, "grub-mkdevicemap -n" then "pastebinit /boot/grub/device.map"
[05:43] <r10101> i hate to change os just to see a video
[05:44] <lotuspsychje> r10101: did you check other browser if you have same issue on youtube?
[05:44] <kingnick42> lotuspsychje, but this means I miss out on N speed?
[05:44] <r10101>  ]:(
[05:44] <TJ-> Psil0Cybin: You're not alone from all the postings I found whilst researching it, that AR9285 seems very poorly supported. Blame Atheros!
[05:44] <lotuspsychje> kingnick42: yes
[05:44] <r10101> other browser?
[05:45] <lotuspsychje> kingnick42: you might wanna try re-enable and do those terminal commands
[05:45] <r10101> firefox is the official one on ubuntu right does it have other browser intalled?
[05:45] <Psil0Cybin> Bahhh then why did this work before, its like a taunt...lol now it works now it does not, >.< was it an update that caused this? I am soooooo mind blown like no joke two weeks ago i would have never thought this would happen
[05:45] <lotuspsychje> r10101: google chrome example
[05:45] <r10101> so probably is an issue of firefox?
[05:45] <Psil0Cybin> i love linux
[05:45] <Psil0Cybin> but i also love wifi :(
[05:45] <Psil0Cybin> darn
[05:45] <TJ-> Psil0Cybin: What was "before" and what did you do to create "after" ?
[05:46] <xmetal> !details
[05:47] <kingnick42> lotuspsychje, I
[05:47] <kingnick42> *I'll try that, thanks
[05:47] <Psil0Cybin> TJ-: All i did after was install samba!! lol which i know could never cause this!! But!! next question i JUST tethered my phone and I WAS ABLE To have internet perfectly fine, same with download files
[05:47] <Psil0Cybin> so its only MY ONE home network
[05:47] <Psil0Cybin> WTF
[05:47] <Psil0Cybin> :S:S
[05:48] <TJ-> Psil0Cybin: In which case... mess with your Wireless router, not with your PC!
[05:49] <TJ-> Psil0Cybin: Have you made any changes to that router's config since "before"? If so, investigate them. Have you tried powering off the router, giving it a minute, and bringing it back?
[05:49] <pleanbean> 6182601
[05:49] <Psil0Cybin> no not at all
[05:49] <Psil0Cybin> i am so confused
[05:49] <Psil0Cybin> and no one else has
[05:50] <Psil0Cybin> how can i remove all samba configs?\
[05:50] <Psil0Cybin> sudo apt-get purge?
[05:50] <xmetal> try router rooter ?
[05:50] <TJ-> pleanbean: Is the Gigaware USB device the key you're booting the liveISO from?
[05:50] <r10101> well google chrome doesn't appear on the repostories or that thing
[05:50]  * xmetal hates himself for that joke
[05:50] <pleanbean> Yep, it is
[05:51] <TJ-> pleanbean: OK, lets retry that command again now.
[05:51] <pleanbean> 6182624
[05:51] <TJ-> pleanbean:  "update-grub 2>&1 | tee /tmp/ug.log; pastebinit /tmp/ug.log"
[05:51] <r10101> I'm removing the flash plug in and later to reinstall probably that will work
[05:52] <pleanbean> 6182626
[05:52] <Territoriojoven> i need help.
[05:52] <Territoriojoven> i can't get into the sudoers group
[05:52] <r10101> territorio joven a poco hay viejos
[05:52] <Territoriojoven> i already edited it with visudo but it is not working
[05:53] <r10101> jk!
[05:57] <TJ-> pleanbean: Hmmm, not sure why its failing on that. Let's go the other way. "grub-install /dev/sda"
[05:57] <Dr_Willis> Territoriojoven:  tell the channel exactly what you did.
[05:58] <pleanbean> TJ-: Done
[05:58] <TJ-> pleanbean: and now try again: "update-grub 2>&1 | tee /tmp/ug.log; pastebinit /tmp/ug.log"
[05:58] <pleanbean> TJ-: 6182645
[05:59] <TJ-> pleanbean: Now this is getting annoying!
[05:59] <pleanbean> TJ-: Why does GRUB need to be on sdb?
[05:59] <TJ-> pleanbean: "gdisk -l /dev/sdb | pastebinit"
[06:00] <TJ-> pleanbean: It doesn't need to be on it, it's got confused I think
[06:00] <pleanbean> 6182649
[06:01] <TJ-> pleanbean: "gdisk -l /dev/sda | pastebinit"
[06:01] <pleanbean> 6182652
[06:02] <Territoriojoven> dr_willis: i was trying to change my username so i moved everything from home and tried to pass permissions and that, but i think it didn't worked so now i have this user with no admin powers.
[06:02] <TJ-> pleanbean: "fdisk -l /dev/sdb | pastebinit"
[06:02] <Territoriojoven> i can still access to root
[06:02] <pleanbean> 6182654
[06:04] <Dr_Willis> Territoriojoven:  i would have just made a new user. gave them sudo rights, then copied files over.  no real need to 'change' the username. just change the user.
[06:04] <TJ-> pleanbean: Ouch, that's not looking correct! That's an 8GB USB flash storage device, isn't it?
[06:04] <Territoriojoven> yes
[06:04] <Territoriojoven> that's what i tried
[06:04] <Dr_Willis> Territoriojoven:  i think the user just needs to be in the adm group. what ubuntu release are you using?
[06:05] <Guest8333> how to solve ubuntu showing error msg running in low resolution
[06:05] <Territoriojoven> lubuntu 12.04
[06:05] <Dr_Willis> what does the groups command say for the user in question?
[06:05] <Dr_Willis> example here ->   adm cdrom sudo dip plugdev lpadmin sambashare
[06:06] <Territoriojoven> adm dialout fax cdrom floppy tape sudo audio dip video plugdev fuse lpadmin netdev sambashare
[06:07] <pleanbean> TJ- Yeah it is
[06:07] <Dr_Willis> Territoriojoven:  with the default /etc/sudoers file - any user in adm should have sudo rights.  You did logout/back in after changeing the users group?
[06:07] <Territoriojoven> yes
[06:08] <hadifarnoud> how can I install apt package from cd?
[06:09] <TJ-> pleanbean: I think I have an explanation but it beats me how its happened, its so weird!
[06:09] <Dr_Willis> hadifarnoud:  what cd?
[06:11] <hadifarnoud> sorry i disconnected. did i miss any answer?
[06:11] <Dr_Willis> hadifarnoud:  what cd?
[06:11] <zykotick9> Territoriojoven: you aren't in the sudo group?!
[06:11] <hadifarnoud> Dr_Willis: ubuntu cd
[06:11] <Territoriojoven> i was kicked out
[06:11] <hadifarnoud> package is unity, so it should be there
[06:11] <Territoriojoven> my system is gon' crazy
[06:11] <TJ-> Plasmastar: That USB device has a very weird partition configuration, which according to gdisk is MBR-only (no GPT), but fdisk displays some unexpected details for partition 1, and strange type for partition 2. I *think* that partition 1 starting at sector 0 (which is supposed to be the master boot record and partition table) is causing grub-probe to fail as we see. I suspect that grub-probe also failed silently during the install, which results in an incomplete g
[06:11] <TJ-> rub installation, but for some reason the installer didn't detect the error, and carried on as if nothing was amiss
[06:11] <Dr_Willis> hadifarnoud:  i dont think you just install packages from the desktop cd. its not set to work as a repository.
[06:12] <TJ-> oh darn - autocomplete failure... that was for pleanbean
[06:12] <Dr_Willis> hadifarnoud:  what packages are you trying to instgall anyway?
[06:12] <bazhang> !aptoncd | hadifarnoud
[06:12] <hadifarnoud> back in a day it was. Dr_Willis Unity. I uninstalled it so I can't login
[06:13] <pleanbean> TJ- So is there a fix?
[06:13] <Dr_Willis> hadifarnoud:  i recall the alternative cd working that way. but there is no longer an alternative cd i think.
[06:13] <TJ-> pleanbean: So, my thinking is, we need a way to prevent update-grub's call to grub-probe failing. Right now, I'm not sure how.
[06:13] <Dr_Willis> hadifarnoud:  login at the console. and renstall the stuff perhaps.
[06:14] <hadifarnoud> Dr_Willis: problem is no internet mate.
[06:14] <hadifarnoud> Dr_Willis: those packages must be on the CD anyway. do you know where?
[06:14] <Dr_Willis> hadifarnoud:  they dont have to be as far as i know. That would double the size of the cd i imagine.
[06:15] <TJ-> pleanbean: Easiest solution would be to recreate the USB key. I'm even considering whether you could simply remove it since you're in the chroot right now. It could cause the whole thing to freeze or fail, but it might stay sane long enough to do "update-grub" without the USB device interferring
[06:15] <Dr_Willis> look on the cd and see..   ls -R  /media/cdrom | grep deb   perhaps
[06:15] <Dr_Willis> hadifarnoud:  so has that pc ever been on the internet and updateed/upgraded?
[06:15] <Psil0Cybin> okay TJ- stinks lots of ppl having same problem no one has a fix
[06:15] <hadifarnoud> Dr_Willis: once
[06:15] <Psil0Cybin> i guess ill wait
[06:15] <Psil0Cybin> :(
[06:16] <hadifarnoud> I hate unity. it's utter crap
[06:16] <TJ-> pleanbean: If you're game to try that, you'd get the commands ready at the command-line, then pull out the USB, and hit Return to have the commands run... what do you think?
[06:16] <Dr_Willis> hadifarnoud:  its possible the versions of other packages have changed and it may not want the older versions that might be on the cd also.
[06:16] <Dr_Willis> hadifarnoud:  keep focused on the problem. we dont really care about rants against unity
[06:17] <pleanbean> TJ- Give me like 5 minutes
[06:17] <Dr_Willis> hadifarnoud:  that apt-on-cd tool may be the easiest way to get stuff reinstalled.
[06:17] <hadifarnoud> Dr_Willis: since I removed it already, can I get gnome on a usb?
[06:17] <Dr_Willis> unless you can get it networked.
[06:17] <hadifarnoud> or cd
[06:17] <Dr_Willis> hadifarnoud:  unity uses gnome. Ubuntu comes with gnome3
[06:17] <Dr_Willis> hadifarnoud:  ubuntu-gnome uses the gnome3+gnomeshell by default
[06:18] <TJ-> pleanbean: OK... I need a mug of tea!
[06:18] <hadifarnoud> Dr_Willis: hmm, so perhaps I can fix this without reinstalling unity?
[06:18] <Dr_Willis> hadifarnoud:  you can always install other window managers and desktops - if you had networking - it would be trivial
[06:18] <geektech713> what kind system are you on? how old is it?
[06:18] <geektech713> if you can get networking on ubuntu?
[06:18] <Dr_Willis> but by removeing 'unity' you may have removed a lot of other things as well
[06:19] <hadifarnoud> made sure I just removed unity Dr_Willis
[06:19] <Dr_Willis> but what about eerything that unity depends on? and other support tools.
[06:19] <Dr_Willis> you could startx and habve it just run a xterm ;) if you wanted to
[06:20] <Dr_Willis> but with no window manager..  you wont get much done.
[06:20] <Dr_Willis> if you got another ubuntu pc - that apt-on-cd would be the easiest way to get a desktop going.  you can use a usb flash drive with it i recall
[06:21] <Dr_Willis> or you could use a live cd. and apt-on-cd from it to download the packages to your hard drive
[06:21] <hadifarnoud> Dr_Willis: I get Failed to load session "ubuntu". do you know how can I fix it without getting Unity? I don't know what I need
[06:21] <pleanbean> TJ- I need to smoke a bowl haha
[06:22] <Dr_Willis> !aptoncd
[06:22] <Dr_Willis> hadifarnoud:   so it has NO networking ability at all?
[06:22] <hadifarnoud> Dr_Willis: it can be networked to other PCs one of which has internet
[06:23] <Dr_Willis> so do that and then you can just apt-get install whatever it is you want
[06:23] <Dr_Willis> is the other pc running ubuntu?
[06:24] <hadifarnoud> yes
[06:25] <hadifarnoud> I can get .deb packages from apt cache. right Dr_Willis?
[06:25] <Dr_Willis> you can use  that apt-on cd tool to have it download stuff you then copy other to the other pc and install. or network the 2 and  let the pc download the packages directly
[06:25] <Dr_Willis> hadifarnoud:  thats where apt-on-cd gets them from. yes
[06:25] <hadifarnoud> cool
[06:26] <Dr_Willis> you can set up apt-cacher-ng on the connected pc. and let it serve as an repository cache ifyou wanted to
[06:26] <hadifarnoud> I guess I have to install unity and remove it another way Dr_Willis
[06:26] <Dr_Willis> you dont have to install unity.
[06:26] <Dr_Willis> You can install whatever window manager or desktop you want
[06:26] <hadifarnoud> Dr_Willis: what do I need then?
[06:26] <hadifarnoud> oh
[06:26] <Dr_Willis> hadifarnoud:  WHAT desktop do you want?
[06:26] <hadifarnoud> Gnome
[06:27] <TJ-> pleanbean: I need to get a few hours sleep (07:30 here already!) ... if you are game to give it a go, queue these commands in the terminal, then remove the USB device, give it 10 seconds to 'disappear' and then hit Return and hope! If/after the commands complete, plug the USB back in. "grub-install /dev/sda && update-grub && sync"
[06:27] <Dr_Willis> gnome3 is in the default ubuntu repos and included by default.
[06:27] <Dr_Willis> gnome-shell is in the repos also
[06:27] <hadifarnoud> so, I just get gnome3 then
[06:27] <Dr_Willis> !gnome-shell
[06:27] <hadifarnoud> ok
[06:27] <Dr_Willis> !gnome
[06:28] <Dr_Willis> unity runs on top of gnome3 - its a plugin for compiz
[06:28] <Dr_Willis> gnome-shell is a shell for gnome3 - it dosent use unity
[06:28] <Dr_Willis> i mean compiz ;)
[06:28] <Dr_Willis> !info gnome-shell
[06:29] <hadifarnoud> Dr_Willis: I'm confused. Gnome is installed then. why doesn't it boot then? How can I find out what packages I removed along with Unity?
[06:29] <Dr_Willis> !info ubuntu-gnome-desktop
[06:29] <pleanbean> TJ- OK one secod
[06:29] <Dr_Willis> hadifarnoud:  you removed the window manager.
[06:29] <pleanbean> second*
[06:29] <Dr_Willis> hadifarnoud:  and you have no alternative installed to replace the window manager
[06:29] <hadifarnoud> Dr_Willis: gnome-shell is the window manager. right?
[06:30] <Dr_Willis> hadifarnoud:  install the ubuntu-gnome-desktop meta package ti install all of the gnome-desktop
[06:30] <hadifarnoud> ok
[06:30] <Dr_Willis> hadifarnoud:  gnome-shell is a SHELL for gnome-3 it uses some app for the window manager (that is not compiz)
[06:30] <hadifarnoud> got it
[06:31] <hadifarnoud> thanks Dr_Willis
[06:31] <Dr_Willis> i forget wht window manager gnome-shell-desktop uses.. mutter perhaps?  you rarely run that by itself
[06:32] <Dr_Willis> if you are going to play with the differnt desktops - its a good idea to install some very simple fallback window manager like  'jwm'  just in case you break the others
[06:32] <pleanbean> TJ- Done.
[06:32] <hadifarnoud> ok
[06:32] <grahamsavage> hmm i'm trying to use pureftpd.. every put and get request i get permission denied
[06:33] <grahamsavage> the directory is owned by ftpuser:ftpgroup
[06:33] <Dr_Willis> hadifarnoud:  and there wa no need to remove unity at all. you could have just installed a idffernt desktop and selected it at the login screen
[06:33] <grahamsavage> 770.. any idea what i've done wrong? i'm following the guide here: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-213266.html
[06:33] <hadifarnoud> Dr_Willis: did not know that
[06:33] <TJ-> pleanbean: Did you see that "grub-probe" error report that time?
[06:33] <pleanbean> TJ- Nope
[06:33] <hadifarnoud> Dr_Willis: I remember it was this way long time ago. didn't know I can still do that
[06:34] <Dr_Willis> hadifarnoud:  you can insgtall all the dektops if you wanted to. and test them all out.
[06:34] <Dr_Willis> hadifarnoud:  its not changed at all
[06:34] <TJ-> pleanbean: Yay! lets hope that might have solved it... reboot and see. Hopefully I can go to bed happy !
[06:34] <hadifarnoud> Dr_Willis: cool
[06:34] <Dr_Willis> login screen has a gear icon to select what desktop.. you DID look there to see if ther ewas some other desktops you could select?
[06:34] <TJ-> pleanbean: "exit" then "reboot"
[06:34] <Dr_Willis> there might be some other options then unity allready on your system
[06:35] <hadifarnoud> Dr_Willis: I don't have a gear. it's an ubuntu icon. when I click, it's just ubuntu on the list
[06:35] <Dr_Willis> hadifarnoud:  you just got the one desktop entry then it seems
[06:36] <Dr_Willis> i have about 15 items on my list. ;)
[06:36] <hadifarnoud> Dr_Willis: haha. that seems like a lot
[06:37] <pleanbean> TJ- I pressed the reboot button on my tower, and now I'm back at the blinking cursor...
[06:38] <TJ-> pleanbean: Oh..... fooey! So there's something else going on, too :(   I'm too tired to continue I'm afraid, you'll have to find someone else if you want to continue. You might point them to the IRC logs of this channel and suggest they grep it for yours and my nicknames to follow what we've discovered and done.
[06:39] <TJ-> pleanbean: When you reboot it, are there *any* other USB devices of any kind connected?
[06:40] <pleanbean> TJ-: Theres no way we could chat again tomorrow? My keyboard and mouse sensor are USB
[06:40] <TJ-> pleanbean: And, is there a CD/DVD drive and if so, is there anything in it? I want to be sure there isn't some stray media that is being tried before the HDD and failing.
[06:40] <Guest8333> how to connect internet in recovery mode
[06:40] <TJ-> pleanbean: keyboard and mouse are fine... I've had people catch me out with this issue, finding out later they've left an external storage device plugged into USB, or to Firewire, etc.
[06:40] <pleanbean> TJ-: Theres nothing in the CD/DVD drive, no
[06:41] <TJ-> pleanbean: I won't be back here for at least 24 hours now.
[06:41] <pleanbean> TJ-: Bummer.
[06:42] <xmetal> wow
[06:42] <xmetal> the last cd in this spindle is bent
[06:43] <TJ-> pleanbean: There's one thing you could try yourself. I said earlier that the partitioning on that USB stick looks *bad* - partition 1 should *never* start at sector 0... You could try re-creating that stick cleanly and ensuring it has a decent partition table, and then reinstall from it again. That *may* help, *if* the grub-probe issue is the cause and not just something else.
[06:43] <pleanbean> TJ-: What if I use a different USB stick?
[06:43] <TJ-> pleanbean: This is the one that looks bad: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6182654/
[06:44] <geektech713> pendrivelinux works
[06:44] <geektech713> just boot from USB thumb drive
[06:44] <TJ-> pleanbean: Yes, anything, as long as it has a valid partition table on it. You can get folks here to double-check that for you by using "fdisk -l $DEVICE" or "gdisk -l $DEVICE" as we did earlier
[06:44] <pleanbean> Ok
[06:45] <geektech713> just a program do it for ya
[06:45] <pleanbean> How do I link people to the chat transcripts?
[06:45] <TJ-> pleanbean: It's a weird one and I'd love to know the cause and the solution ... it ought to have a bug report all to itself
[06:45] <pleanbean> TJ-: Glad I found you though, I've been at this by myself for the past two nights
[06:46] <TJ-> pleanbean: IRC logs  http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2013/10/02/
[06:47] <pleanbean> Wow awesome
[06:47] <pleanbean> Ok
[06:47] <pleanbean> I'm going to make a new bootable USB and try installing that
[06:47] <TJ-> pleanbean: Now we know there might be something upsetting grub, we ought to be looking at the installer log files (in /var/log/installer/ I think) of the liveISO environment when it has finished... we might find some indications there of problems
[06:47] <TJ-> pleanbean: OK ... please leave me a message via memserv on here if that solves it
[06:48] <pleanbean> Ok how do I use memserv?
[06:48] <Dr_Willis> pleanbean:  if you have more then one usb flash drive. you can try installing (a normal full install ) to a 2nd flash drive and see if that works/boots properly.
[06:48] <pleanbean> Ok I'll do that
[06:48] <TJ-> pleanbean: "/msg memoserv help"
[06:48] <Dr_Willis> it would be an interesting point - if it worked. or if it failed on that pc.. but booted  correctly on a differnt pc.
[06:49] <TJ-> Dr_Willis: I wondered that but it seems parts of GRUB are missing, but the installer hasn't realised
[06:49] <pleanbean> Then it would be a BIOS problem?
[06:49] <Dr_Willis> he could even do the usb to usb install on a 2nd pc.. and try it out on this pc.
[06:49] <TJ-> pleanbean: There's no harm testing that out though, we ought to know for sure. That's one more way of narrowing down the possibilities
[06:50] <Dr_Willis> as a test
[06:50] <TJ-> Dr_Willis: yes, I agree.
[06:50] <Dr_Willis> if the usb install did work. ;) he could image it to his problem pc/hd.    (but thats getting a little weird in ways)
[06:50] <TJ-> Dr_Willis: pleanbean Could even do it with a virtual machine
[06:50] <pleanbean> I'm getting a No root file system is defined
[06:50] <TJ-> pleanbean: Where are you getting that?
[06:51] <pleanbean> The Installer
[06:51] <Dr_Willis> you tell the installer what partion to use for /   (thats the root filesystem)
[06:51] <Dr_Willis> the pulldown items should list possible mountpoints,   /   /boot /home   and so forth
[06:51] <Dr_Willis> you need at a minimum   a /    and swap
[06:52] <pleanbean> Installing
[06:53] <Dr_Willis> and be sure to tell the installer to put grub on the MBR of the USB flash drive you are installing to.. sometimes it gets confused
[06:53] <pleanbean> Did that
[06:54] <TJ-> pleanbean: Are you still using the Gigaware 8GB USB stick as the install source?
[06:54] <pleanbean> Yeah
[06:55] <TJ-> pleanbean: And you're installing to another USB, or to the HDD again?
[06:55] <pleanbean> Another USB
[06:55] <TJ-> pleanbean: gotchya
[06:56] <Wobbo> After a while, 4/5 month, 13.04 is getting slow, very slow. Starting up en logging in is no problem. But then, stuff like Nautilus, Chrome and the systemsetting CMS i s sloff. I have a Intel i5 Core, 8gig ram, Ubuntu 13.04 64b....
[06:56] <Wobbo>  Any tips?
[06:59] <aeon-ltd> Wobbo: what are you running now that's different?
[07:03]  * Dr_Willis wonders if theres a 12+gb log file on Wobbo 's system ;)
[07:03] <Dr_Willis> had that happen once
[07:03] <Fuzzles> Can someone hlep me i installed steam and downloaded a game but when i run it nothing happens?
[07:03] <aeon-ltd> Fuzzles: run steam in terminal check for errors
[07:03] <Dr_Willis> Fuzzles:  you mean the native linux steam client? or the windows steam client?
[07:04] <Fuzzles> Dr_Willis, native
[07:04] <Lacko> the game might not be compatible
[07:04] <Fuzzles> aeon-ltd, how do i do that
[07:04] <Lacko> better call saul
[07:04] <aeon-ltd> Fuzzles: literally open a terminal type steam and press enter
[07:04] <Dr_Willis> close any running steam client first :)
[07:06] <geektech713> or just click on the icon
[07:06] <Fuzzles> Lacko, its a linux native game
[07:06] <Fuzzles> Lacko, if its native it should work
[07:06] <Fuzzles> i got to go ill be back later
[07:06] <aeon-ltd> Fuzzles: how old is this pc? if it's pretty old it's gpu probably doesn't support the version of opengl needed to run the game
[07:06] <Lacko> Oh, I didn't see that
[07:08] <Calinou> aeon-ltd: lspci | grep VGA
[07:08] <Calinou> tells graphics card :P
[07:08] <Calinou> but Fuzzles left :(
[07:08] <aeon-ltd> fuzzles is gone man
[07:09] <Calinou> I know
[07:12] <hadifarnoud> how can I find a file in terminal? ls -R | grep offline.deb does not give me the path
[07:12] <TJ-> hadifarnoud: "find $SOME_BASE_DIR -iname '*some_part_of_name*'  "
[07:13] <hadifarnoud> cheers TJ-
[07:18] <BReon> hei i need help for my ubuntu new 13.10 will be realease when?
[07:18] <BReon> i mean the new ubuntu
[07:18] <aeon-ltd> this month
[07:18] <bazhang> #ubuntu+1 for more BReon
[07:18] <aeon-ltd> [20]13.10
[07:19] <BReon> #ubuntu+1
[07:19] <BReon> what?
[07:20] <bazhang> !saucy | BReon
[07:20] <bazhang> BReon, /join #ubuntu+1
[07:20] <helmut_> hi
[07:21] <BReon> what? 17 of the october? i'm really wana try now
[07:22] <aeon-ltd> BReon: there are betas, but really to try now would be pointless
[07:23] <aeon-ltd> BReon: unless you're planning not to upgrade, or really can't wait
[07:24] <gulag2013> I got burned to many times with all the betas. Sticking with 12.04.3, uless they do something amazing with Dash.
[07:25] <wilee-nilee> gulag2013, Heh, never had a problem myself with any release really since dapper
[07:26] <aeon-ltd> wilee-nilee: are you on the same install since dapper?
[07:27] <piquadrat_> Hi. I have a problem with my external screen on a Dell XPS 12 Developer Edition, with Ubuntu 13.04. It worked without a hitch for months, until this morning when I plugged it in. Nothing happens. Any ideas?
[07:27] <gulag2013> It could just be my cheap Acer aspire. Its picky, back to 12.04.
[07:27] <Wobbo> aeon-ltd, I am running nothing. When I start the PC, Ubuntu is running, login, I click on Nautilus, end then i have to what.... 2, 3 of 4 min.. Then Nautilus is visible, but it gray for about 2, 3 min.
[07:28] <A1Recon> I am running Ubuntu13.04/Win7 dual boot. I want to remove Win7 and Ubuntu 13.04 and do a fresh install of Ubuntu(and remove Win7 forever). Also I want to add the space that Win 7 is using into the Ubuntu partition.
[07:28] <aeon-ltd> Wobbo: wow that was a late reply
[07:29] <aeon-ltd> Wobbo: watch a activity monitor when you click nautilus, see if the cpu is maxing out. unless the hdd is making a lot noise then it may be writing to a swap file, you can reduce hdd writes by reducing a swappiness value
[07:30] <wilee-nilee> aeon-ltd, No all fresh installs
[07:30] <gulag2013> Yep, I would really think twice before removing the Windows Partition, you just don't know what proprietary software you will need to run in the future.  Hmm, well you could Virtual box a vm, but I think that is slow.
[07:31] <Paulus68_1> are de drivers for creative labs sb X FI by default installed in ubuntu or do we still need to install the drivers seperatly?
[07:31] <wilee-nilee> aeon-ltd,However I have only bought one new computer in that time, so older computers have been no problem with drivers...etc.
[07:31] <A1Recon> gulag2013: I guess you are right! VM would be slow I guess
[07:33] <gulag2013> A1Recon, I have been there trust me I can't stand have Windows on my system, but then I get stuck having to reinstall it for something .
[07:34] <Dr_Willis> Paulus68_1:  the x-fi cards had issues in thepast. i dont know how well they are supported now a days. test with a live cd first would be a goood idea
[07:35] <pleanbean> Dr_Willis USB didn't work
[07:35] <Dr_Willis> pleanbean:  test that usb in a 2nd pc? see if it works there
[07:35] <wilee-nilee> A1Recon, As long as 13.04 is not a wubi you don't have to fresh install just expand it into the unallocated space.
[07:35] <pleanbean> I don't have a second USB unfortunately
[07:37] <gulag2013> Wilee, have any links on the expanding topic. I have yet to try that. ?
[07:37] <A1Recon> wilee-nilee: My Ubuntu 13.04 is damaged.(Thanks to my ULTRA-dumb cousin.)
[07:37] <A1Recon> :(
[07:37] <wilee-nilee> gulag2013, My acer aspire a205 has run everything since 10.04 with no problems.
[07:37] <wilee-nilee> running raring right now
[07:38] <wilee-nilee> A1Recon, You might clone the next install for such occasions.
[07:39] <gulag2013> Wilee what's it got for a cpu? Not familiar with your acer. I love the size of my netbook. They don't make them this size anymore.
[07:39] <Paulus68_1> Dr_Willis ok will do
[07:39] <Dr_Willis> on an EEEpc right now. ;)
[07:39] <A1Recon> wilee-nilee: Hey how hard will it be for me to Upgrade from 13.04 to the next version when it releases?
[07:40] <Dr_Willis> A1Recon:  do-release-upgrade    and it will do it
[07:40] <gulag2013> I miss my Asus EEpc with the Atom, fond memories Dr_Willis
[07:40] <wilee-nilee> gulag2013, Atom N270, doh i's a d250 an early one.
[07:41] <Dr_Willis> gulag2013:  i dont miss this taking hr+ to reencode a video that takes my desktop pc 4 min.   ;)
[07:41] <wilee-nilee> A1Recon, I never upgrade, but many do with no problems I hear.
[07:41] <A1Recon> wilee-nilee: One more question.... If you had to choose between a Nexus 2013 Tablet and a Netbook. And you work with Arduino, Raspberry Pi and Electronics what would you choose...
[07:42] <A1Recon> a Netbook running Ubuntu
[07:42] <Dr_Willis> A1Recon:  a pc is more flexiable
[07:42] <gulag2013> Ha ha, no they suck for trans-coding
[07:42] <Dr_Willis> A1Recon:  i alleady own all 3. :) a pi, netbook, and tablet
[07:43] <wilee-nilee> A1Recon, I have run ubuntu on that acer aspire d50 with no problems, maxed the ram to 2 gigs though, I'm not familiar with those you mention is all.
[07:43] <wilee-nilee> the aspire is just a backup now thoug
[07:44] <wilee-nilee> d250*
[07:44] <Psil0Cybin> hey TJ- i do not understand is there no fix for this
[07:44] <Psil0Cybin> hey guys
[07:44] <Psil0Cybin> im having a problem with my wifi on 12.04 ubuntu, keeps dropping connection
[07:44] <Psil0Cybin> using ath9k
[07:44] <gulag2013> I thought of adding more ram. 2 gigs and Firefox is still very slow to open.
[07:45] <Dr_Willis> gulag2013:  ssd drive ;)
[07:45] <gulag2013> Yes I do.
[07:45] <wilee-nilee> I would put my ssd in the acer if my dualcore toshiba went south, yeah ssd is nice
[07:45] <Dr_Willis> remove one boottle neck get hit by the next bottleneck
[07:46] <gulag2013> Samsug 830, I wonder if the ram would have been the better choice, not to say I'm unhappy the ssd can go in something else.
[07:48] <Dr_Willis> ff runs ok here -  but the drive in this eeepc is way slow
[07:48] <gulag2013> what is a good drive speed on magnetic is it 7200 +
[07:49] <wilee-nilee> my toshiba is listed as 2 gigs ram max and 32 bit but is actually 3 gigs and 64 bit, all stock but for the extra ram an ssd
[07:49] <eHAPPY> gulag2013 for 2.5"? around 80MB/s
[07:52] <gulag2013> Read speeds? 80? Wow I never tested one.
[07:52] <lucido> hello, what's the current way to execute a command as root when a particular user logs in to his desktop session?
[07:52] <Dr_Willis> lucido:  a script in their ~/.config/autostart/  directory is one way
[07:53] <lucido> Dr_Willis, I need it to be executed as root
[07:53] <Dr_Willis> so use sudo/gksudo in the script
[07:53] <lucido> Dr_Willis, but then it will ask for the password?
[07:54] <Dr_Willis> what do you need ran exactly?
[07:54] <Dr_Willis> lucido:  not if you configure  /etc/sudoers correctly
[07:54] <lucido> Dr_Willis, sudo nvclock -n 630 -m 610 -f
[07:54] <lucido> Dr_Willis, of course, thanks
[07:54] <Dr_Willis> and that command does what lucido ?
[07:55] <lucido> Dr_Willis, overclocks the video card
[07:55] <Dr_Willis> you dont want lightdm doing it  befor they login?
[07:55] <Dr_Willis> you could also set the suid bit on the command. but thats not as secure
[07:55] <lucido> Dr_Willis, point is I only want it done if a particular user logs in to the graphical env
[07:56] <lucido> Dr_Willis, no suid I dont like that
[07:56] <Dr_Willis> sudo & sudoers then.
[07:56] <lucido> thx
[07:56] <Wobbo> aeon-ltd, I'm back. :-P  Nothing is running above 10% CPU and only for about 10sec., "compiz", "gnome-system-monitor".
[07:56] <gribouille> hi
[07:56] <gribouille> how can I disable binfmt_misc?
[07:58] <Wobbo> aeon-ltd, can Ubuntu-One case the problem?
[08:00] <NeoKarna> gribouille,  why do you want to disable it ?
[08:01] <gribouille> NeoKarna, because I don't need it
[08:01] <Wobbo> aeon-ltd, My Internet-speed can't be the problem, last check: 2ms down 167,5Mbit/sec and 162,3 up...
[08:04] <NeoKarna> gribouille,  you don't use Wine ?
[08:04] <gribouille> NeoKarna, no
[08:06] <Wobbo> Any tips? 'AMD Catalyst Control Center (Administrative)' won't work. I am using 'amdxdg-su -c amdcccle' true terminal, then i get a new terminal minal asking for my password. Then it doesn't matter if I put a richt password or not, that terminal wont show any AMD Catalyst...
[08:06] <Wobbo>  I have used the logical way, 'sudo amdcccle' but that won't save any installations or anything.
[08:09] <Dr_Willis> you nuse gksudo for gui apps needing to run as root - in most cases
[08:10] <grahamsavage> how can i check if a particular user has access to a file?
[08:10] <Dr_Willis> i thought amdccle would save the settings/chanes to the users home if ran as a user. this allowes each user to have their own settings
[08:11] <Dr_Willis> grahamsavage:  you mean in a bash script?
[08:11] <grahamsavage> Dr_Willis: yeah
[08:12] <Dr_Willis> you may want to ask in #bash  i imagine theres a proper way to do it
[08:12] <aum> help - how to get ubuntu 12.04 working with broadcom bcm4401-b0 LAN driver?
[08:12] <grahamsavage> i'm trying to solve pure-ftpd problems, i can't write or read files
[08:12] <grahamsavage> and i've got no idea why
[08:13] <Dr_Willis> !broadcom
[08:13] <NeoKarna> gribouille,  you can disable a kernel module until next boot
[08:13] <aum> Dr_Willis, I don't want wifi, just wired LAN
[08:14] <Dr_Willis> aum:  i cant recall seeing any wired network cards that dident just work outof the box. at least not in the l;ast few years
[08:14] <aum> Dr_Willis, google is full of cases of 12.04 not working with broadcom BCM4401-B1
[08:15] <NeoKarna> gribouille,  here's how you can do that http://askubuntu.com/questions/317230/how-can-i-temporarily-disable-a-kernel-module
[08:15] <Dr_Willis> aum:  checked askubuntu.com for any known work arounds?
[08:15] <aum> there is a b44 driver, but modprobe hangs when trying to install it
[08:16] <wilee-nilee> aum, http://askubuntu.com/questions/324898/no-wired-or-wireless-networking-available-on-ubuntu-12-04-wired-work-from-liveu
[08:16] <arshavin> i ve installed ffmpeg and mplayer from source,but into in /usr/bin directory,but when i want to install something from apt-get that depends on these two,apt-get wants to doenload and install them from repo why??
[08:17] <Dr_Willis> arshavin:  because apt dosent know the files are there. it justknows whats the apt system installs
[08:17] <Dr_Willis> you should have made .deb packabes from the source and installed those
[08:17] <NeoKarna> gribouille,  if you want to disable for as long as you like, check this http://askubuntu.com/questions/110341/how-to-blacklist-kernel-modules
[08:18] <arshavin> Dr_Willis: how do i get around it ,dont want to install them again
[08:18] <Dr_Willis> or installed to /opt/
[08:18] <wilee-nilee> aum I see numerous working uses of that broadcom on askubuntu
[08:18] <NeoKarna> gribouille,  driver=module(which is binfmt_misc in your case)
[08:19] <arshavin> Dr_Willis: can you please tell why /opt is an exception?
[08:19] <Dr_Willis> arshavin:  bevayuse stuff you compile should go in  /opt/ its not an exception.
[08:20] <Dr_Willis> apt packages normally dont install stuff to /opt/ except in a few cases
[08:20] <arshavin> Dr_Willis: like chrome and opera
[08:20] <Dr_Willis> some packages not from the normal repos might install to /opt/
[08:21] <Dr_Willis> theres also /usr/local thats commonly used for compiled packages but that dosent seem as common these days
[08:21] <arshavin> Dr_Willis: i guess i will go for the deb package
[08:22] <arshavin> Dr_Willis: wait, if i have a package install in /usr/local then will it be seen by apt-get
[08:23] <Dr_Willis> arshavin:  if you use the APT system to install .deb packages.. thats the critical part
[08:23] <ArielX_> my hostapd is not working.. connected on my android phone but not browsing
[08:23] <Dr_Willis> compiled stuff  in /usr/local will not be seen by apt..  except to perhaps cause issues. ;)
[08:24] <gribouille> NeoKarna, ok
[08:24] <arshavin> Dr_Willis: thanks for the info,I used to think that since $PATH has these directories,somehow apt-get will figure out that they exist
[08:24] <Dr_Willis> PATH is just where bash looks for commands. (or othershells)
[08:25] <automatik> i need help in removing a corrupt file, any takers?
[08:25] <Dr_Willis> automatik:  give the  channel details
[08:26] <arshavin> Dr_Willis: ok thanks, I am going to make deb packages
[08:26] <automatik> ok under cd /name/location/file it gives und ls -al it gives a line of question marks
[08:27] <Dr_Willis> automatik:  you did a fsck of the filesystem yet?
[08:27] <automatik> no it's only one file which wont delete
[08:28] <automatik> does it need to be done for just one file?
[08:28] <Dr_Willis> the filesystem is currupted from what you described.. you just know of the 1 file.
[08:28] <automatik> was deleting some old files. the drive is pretty new
[08:28] <arshavin> Dr_Willis: have you any idea how i can get my DVD drive to work,it randomly reads cds but with a log of i/o errors,cant do anything with it,but my drive never reads dvds
[08:29] <Paulus68_1> is there an easy way to move the /home to a seperate drive after installing ubuntu?
[08:29] <ArielX_> my hostapd is not working.. connected on my android phone but not browsing... can anyone help.. thanks
[08:29] <Dr_Willis> arshavin:  i seem to recall that optiocal drives use 2 differnt lasers. one to read cd and one to read dvd's - sounds like one of the lasers has gone out.
[08:30] <arshavin> Dr_Willis: oh thats very bad news i use sony vaio laptop,replacing it will be hard
[08:30] <Dr_Willis> arshavin:  you may want to ask in #hardware - but i think thats how they work.  I maybe thinking of burners having 2 lasers. one for reading, one for writeing. Been ages since ive messed with the drives
[08:30] <Dr_Willis> external usb optical drive = $35-$60 range. ;)
[08:31] <arshavin> Dr_Willis: actually on windows sometimes it reads selected dvds,I hardly ever use them or use them after a long time
[08:31] <gulag2013> New to me about the two lasers. So it's not a codecs issue? It won't open dvd data discs?
[08:31] <Dr_Willis> a dvd 'data' disk woldentbe using codecs
[08:31] <Dr_Willis> you CAN read dvd data disks? and only have issues with movies?
[08:32] <arshavin> Dr_Willis: I have all the codecs installed
[08:32] <ArielX_> my hostapd is not working.. connected on my android phone but not browsing... can anyone help.. thanks
[08:32] <Dr_Willis> what is it not reading exactly?  COmercial DVD movies? Homemade dvd data disks?
[08:33] <arshavin> Dr_Willis: at the moment nothing at all
[08:33] <r02922070> .
[08:33] <ArielX_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6182995/
[08:34] <arshavin> Dr_Willis: Sense Key : Illegal Request [current] end_request: I/O error, dev sr0, sector 4096
[08:34] <Dr_Willis> arshavin:  if it cant read homemade data disks - that points to some hardware issue to me. expecially if reads disk A. then later refuses to read disk A again.
[08:34] <ArielX_> interfaces settings:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/6182998/
[08:35] <arshavin> Dr_Willis: that is an extract from dmesg when i put cds into the tray
[08:35] <Dr_Willis> give the optical drive a good dusting with compressed air recently?
[08:35] <arshavin> Dr_Willis: not really
[08:36] <Paulus68_1> is there an easy way to move the /home to a seperate drive after installing ubuntu?
[08:36] <arshavin> Dr_Willis: I can open the drive as it gets mounted and see the contents but cant copy or read anything
[08:36] <Dr_Willis> Paulus68_1:  copy it over to the new HD/partition. alter /etc/fstab to point to the new location, reboot
[08:36] <DJones> !movehome | Paulus68_1
[08:38] <Braden`> I installed the awstats package, and it works well, but my charts are not showing up.  Does anyone have any idea?
[08:44] <ArielX_> bz@BENZINO:~$ /etc/init.d/hostapd restart
[08:44] <ArielX_> * Stopping advanced IEEE 802.11 management hostapd [ OK ]
[08:45] <ArielX_>  * Starting advanced IEEE 802.11 management hostapd                      [fail]
[08:45] <Dr_Willis> checked the log files for why ArielX_ ?
[08:46] <ArielX_> how pls
[08:46] <Dr_Willis> look at the logs in /var/log/
[08:47] <Dr_Willis> enable verbose logging for the service in question - if its not logging enough
[08:53] <automatik> Dr_Willis: is there a way to use fsck to check only one file on a hard drive?
[08:53] <asdf_> Hello everybody, I'm using 12.04 and I can't move my desktop panel?
[08:53] <automatik> or folder?
[08:53] <asdf_> Tried gconf but didnt success
[08:53] <automatik> *succeed
[08:53] <asdf_> automatik: I blame the morning here in Sweden...
[08:53] <asdf_> :D
[08:54] <automatik> it can happen
[08:54] <asdf_> automatik: Do you have any lust of helping me Sir? :P
[08:54] <automatik> i don't use Ubuntu
[08:54] <automatik> is a LM user
[08:55] <Dr_Willis> automatik:  no.  - fsck checks a fileystem
[08:55] <asdf_> automatik: Thanks anyway :=)
[08:55] <automatik> i thought so, thanks
[08:55] <Dr_Willis> you havbe no way to prove its just that one file that has the issue
[08:55] <automatik> you could also try asking in LM but they don't normally use the defacto desktop used in Ubuntu
[08:56] <automatik> Dr_Willis: yeah true
[08:56] <asdf_> automatik: LM, Linux Mint?
[08:56] <automatik> asdf_: yes
[08:56] <asdf_> automatik: Guessed so :D, I'm familiar (NAZI GRAMMAR) but LM before but that was 1-2 years ago and I'm still a noob
[08:57] <asdf_> WIll check some YT videos and see if it's any better, Unity didn't help so much...
[08:57] <Dr_Willis> mint has its support channels.  ;) but once you know the core fundamentals.. the disrto dosent matter much
[08:57] <automatik> NAZI GRAMMAR ?
[08:57] <asdf_> automatik: Try type that in Google ;=)
[08:57] <Dr_Willis> its trivial to install adational desktops on ubuntu. ;)
[08:58] <asdf_> Dr_Willis: Do you know how to change the desktop panel in 12.04?
[08:58] <Dr_Willis> asdf_:  what panel are you refering to?  the left side Unity Launcher?
[08:58] <asdf_> Dr_Willis: No Sir, the "classic" one -> Start menu in Windows
[08:58] <asdf_> The long desktop panel, pic in one sec
[08:59] <Dr_Willis> i dont use the classic gnome stuff.  I dont really use 12.04 either.
[08:59] <bonhoeffer> hmm. .. what keybinding do you think this is: S-Shift P
[08:59] <asdf_> Dr_Willis: Oh....
[08:59] <asdf_> Dr_Willis: Well it's google then!
[09:00] <Dr_Willis> if i want a classic desktop look -  i use Lubuntu, or xubuntu
[09:00] <asdf_> Or even LM as automatik wanted :D
[09:00] <Dr_Willis> i dont see much reason to use Mint these days. (not really seen much reason to ever use it)
[09:01] <asdf_> Dr_Willis: True, but I have tested serveral dists but haven't been stuck in any and just made a quit from Linux
[09:01] <Dr_Willis> Gnome-shell 3.8+ has its own GNome-2-similer-mode - I imagine in a year or so it will be come the standard way to get a gnome2-ish desktop
[09:01] <gulag2013> Ha ha,  I seen 3.10, I'll pass on that for now.
[09:01] <illusion> hey
[09:02] <asdf_> illusion: hello :D:D:
[09:02] <illusion> asdf_, hey :p
[09:02] <snori74> ?
[09:03] <asdf_> illusion: You wanna have some Linux babies?
[09:03] <snori74> opps. sorry. just learning an irc client!
[09:03] <TNTS> Hi, I have this problem with Ubuntu 12.04.3 where the bootscreen is always on low resolution. How do I fix it? I have an AMD Proprietary driver
[09:03] <illusion> can you help me in http://momentvideo.org/
[09:04] <illusion> it is a free media server
[09:04] <Dr_Willis> TNTS:  you mean the Ubuntu .... loading screen? or the Grub Menu screen.. or the lightdm login screen?
[09:04] <illusion> i whant to stream a paylist video with it
[09:04] <Dr_Willis> illusion:  help you do what exactly?
[09:04] <TNTS> Dr_Willis, The Ubuntu loading screen
[09:04] <Dr_Willis> TNTS:  thats plymouth and it has known issues with both the Nvidia and ATI proparity drivers.
[09:05] <Dr_Willis> TNTS:  i tend to just disable pymouth
[09:05] <Dr_Willis> then again - my pc boots in like 15-30 sec to the desktop. so i barely even see the ubuntu .... screen
[09:05] <TNTS> Dr_Willis, Should I just modify the GRUB file in /etc/default/grub?
[09:05] <illusion> okay, Dr_Willis my videos are in full HD and i wahnt to stream in HD or 480p with lower bitrate how to do this
[09:06] <illusion> i find that i have o use mod_gst/bitrate
[09:06] <illusion> but there is no good doc explain that
[09:06] <gulag2013> Is it a know issue, is it what causes the 4:3 at startups. That plymouth thing?
[09:06] <Dr_Willis> TNTS:  thats where you set a lot of the grub settings. I tend to just set plymouth to use a text based theme.
[09:07] <TNTS> Dr_Willis, We plan on using this on a presentation on why we should move the server systems to Ubuntu and the boot screen would be a needed beauty to add
[09:07] <Dr_Willis> Plymougth dosent play nicely with the company supplied Nvidia or ati drivers. :) if that  low res screen is the only issue.. consider yourself lucky. It barely is viewable at all on many nvidia systems
[09:07] <automatik> Dr_Willis: is it possible to simply run fsck /drive/sdb1 to remedy a bad file in folders and subfolders?
[09:07] <Dr_Willis> TNTS:  a server dosent need a fancy boot screen. a server needs weeks and weeks and MONTHS of uptime
[09:08] <Dr_Willis> set the server to 'text' mode and you wont even see the boot screen
[09:08] <TNTS> Dr_Willis, Okay
[09:08] <Dr_Willis> a server really dosent need the prioparity ati or nvidia drivers either
[09:08] <automatik> asdf_: have you tried looking at distrowatch?
[09:09] <Dr_Willis> automatik:  huh? You fsck a partion. sdb1. and that scans and fixs  the problems..  whats so hard about this idea?
[09:09] <TNTS> Well I can't seem to find the open source xorg drivers on the Additional drivers Dr_Willis I only found the beta driver (which was enabled) and the stable updated one
[09:09] <automatik> i don't know anything about it; the reason for my question.
[09:09] <asdf_> automatik: Thanks for you reply :D, I truly have but that was a quiet while ago due...I fear that I can't change the "panel bar" in Ubuntu 12.04
[09:09] <learn2> hi ubuntu installed some updates and now my graphics settings are all messed up? what should I do? reinstall my nvidia drivers or what?
[09:09] <Dr_Willis> TNTS:  the open soruce drivers would be used if you tell it to NOT use any of the 'addational' drivers
[09:09] <failure> Ok, updated today to 13.10, and now it dim's my inactive windows, this is plain hell, when you use dual monitors, is there a way to turn this off? ive looked at compiz, but i didnt have the extra plugin installed, so is this a native feature nowon?
[09:09] <asdf_> I'm gonna make a thread on the forum instead
[09:09] <automatik> just for kicks try out kwheezy
[09:10] <Dr_Willis> !fsck | automatik
[09:10] <Dr_Willis> automatik:  i could havbe fscked my 3tb usb hd about 30 times in the time you have been asking about fscking a single file ;)
[09:10] <TNTS> Dr_Willis, The Beta driver was enabled by default
[09:10] <gulag2013> Asdf, I think you would be happier with Zorin O/S if you like the Microsoft style.
[09:10] <illusion> Dr_Willis, can u help me ?
[09:10] <asdf_> automatik: OMG KDE!....last time (1-2 years ago) KDE was really buggy for me..
[09:11] <Dr_Willis> TNTS:  you or someone enabled it then.  ubuntu does not use the ati fglrx drivers by default as far as i know
[09:11] <automatik> asdf_: LM cinnamon?
[09:12] <Dr_Willis> illusion:  ive never heard of the site. no idea how it works. or what it does.. im not even clear on how its ubuntu support relatged.
[09:12] <TNTS> I can't opt out of it Dr_Willis the open source one is not on the list
[09:12] <illusion> it is on ubuntu server :p
[09:12] <asdf_> automatik: Damm you :D, it's look good :D
[09:12] <Dr_Willis> TNTS:  thers  checkbox to disable the use of the drivers as far as i know. that will make the system use the open sourced driver.
[09:13] <Dr_Willis> TNTS:  perhaps look at askubuntu.com on how to revert from using the fglrx drivers
[09:13] <illusion> Dr_Willis, check this: http://music.almaciraa.com/
[09:13] <asdf_> automatik: still dude, I'm unsure about drivers and etc... LM was/is quiet stable?
[09:13] <TNTS> Okay I'll be asking
[09:13] <asdf_> automatik: Think is my dist should be -> 1. Stable, 2. GNOME / XFCE, and 3. not so many programs installed
[09:14] <asdf_> automatik: Thank you for your help dude :_D
[09:14] <Dr_Willis> asdf_:  xubuntu uses xfce.
[09:14] <Dr_Willis> using xubuntu on my netbook right now.
[09:14] <asdf_> Dr_Willis: Is it like "clean" from programs, I mean minzimed programs and packets?
[09:15] <asdf_> and ofc stable?
[09:15] <vila> hi guys, using a freshly updated saucy desktop, I'm currently unable to login :-(
[09:15] <Dr_Willis> asdf_:  no idea what that means exactly. remove what you dont want
[09:15] <vila> more precisely, the lightdm greeter allows me to type my password, seems to start a session... and I'm back to the greeter
[09:15] <asdf_> Dr_Willis: Try thing, need to learn the system first due :D
[09:16] <Dr_Willis> xubuntu is rather trivial to figture out. as  is lubuntu
[09:16] <asdf_> Dr_Willis: You have any good guide? I would be thankful
[09:16] <Dr_Willis> xfce homepage perhaps?
[09:16] <Dr_Willis> and gthe xubuntu homepage
[09:16] <asdf_> Dr_Willis: Thanks, I was on Ubuntu wiki but it was very mixed
[09:16] <Dr_Willis> click the bottons/menu to start apps..  whats so hard to figure out? ;)
[09:17] <Dr_Willis> ubuntu has the official ubuntu manual but that vovers unity
[09:17] <Dr_Willis> !manual
[09:17] <vila> Looking at various log files, the most relevant (so far) seems to /var/log/lightdm/x-0-greeter.log which is created each time I come back to the greeter
[09:17] <asdf_> Thanks wizard of Ubuntu!
[09:17] <asdf_> :D
[09:17] <vila> each time it ends up with: ** (gnome-settings-daemon:11117): WARNING **: Name taken or bus went away - shutting down
[09:17] <vila> (gnome-settings-daemon:11117): dconf-WARNING **: failed to commit changes to dconf: The connection is closed
[09:18] <vila> any idea on how to debug from there ?
[09:18] <Dr_Willis> vila:  make a new user - see if it works for them
[09:18] <Dr_Willis> if so - its a config issue in the problem users home
[09:19] <vila> Dr_Willis: using a different (existing) user works indeed
[09:19] <Dr_Willis> start by removeing the problem users .Xauthority file and see if that works
[09:20] <Dr_Willis> could also be some other config file - you may need to clean out.
[09:21] <vila> Dr_Willis: doh ! removing .Xauthority worked !
[09:21] <Dr_Willis> common problem. comes from using sudo whenyou should run gksudo i think
[09:22] <vila> Dr_Willis: hmm, I indeed commonly use sudo but the .Xauthority was owned by vila:vila and 0600
[09:22] <zetheroo>  I am trying to do "javaws jviewer.jnlp" but I get this output: /usr/bin/javaws: line 66: /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-openjdk-amd64/jre/bin/java: No such file or directory
[09:22] <vila> Dr_Willis: do you have more hints about the root cause ?
[09:22] <Braden`> I am running the apache2 package.  I am getting a 403 permission denied by configuration, but I can't figure out which configuration directive is causing it.  Is there an easy way to increase the verbosity of the log output?
[09:23] <Dr_Willis> vila:  nope. No idea what happens with it. but it gets asked in here almost daily
[09:23] <vila> Dr_Willis: thanks a ton anyway !
[09:25] <Braden`> Anyone
[09:25] <Braden`> ?
[09:25] <Dr_Willis> most services hav e config files with logging verbosity options
[09:35] <MoleMan> Using 12.04 LTS Desktop, in the 'routes' section of the VPN config, you can configure a VPN to be used only for resources on it's network, however if I do this, I believe Ubuntu continues using it's existing DNS, rather than using the DNS servers provided by the VPN DHCP, is there a way to only tunnel  the necessary data, but also use the VPN's DNS?
[09:37] <Braden`> I keep getting a 403 error on my site due to configuration.  It does not tell me where in the configuration or which directive is blocking it.  Is there a way to get this information?  http://pastebin.com/TV0BggY4
[09:42] <malinus> Hello. I'm concerned about my privacy when using ubuntu. I've already removed unity and zeitgeist, and installed xfce instead. But now I can't find the privacy options. Any ideas where they are?
[09:42] <cfhowlett> !privacy
[09:43] <cfhowlett> malinus, you didn't have to remove unity, you could have just logged, chosen the alternate desktop environment and logged back in ...
[09:44] <malinus> cfhowlett, why would I  want to have additional DE that I don't want to use?
[09:44] <MoleMan> Braden`: does the owner match? (not actually sure what it means to match, but possibly www-data?) and have you triple checked the permissions and you web user has access to the files
[09:44] <arshavin> cfhowlett: i've successfully removed unity before i just dislike it so much
[09:44] <malinus> cfhowlett, not the point though. any idea how I would access privacy settings? Is there a command for ubuntu-settings?
[09:44] <cfhowlett> malinus, "could have" ... the alternate DE doesn't use the privacy violating amazon search function
[09:45] <malinus> cfhowlett, oh so the privacy problems are only in unity? Thanks for clearing that up
[09:45] <cfhowlett> malinus, as far as privacy settings ... I'm on ubuntu studio, i.e. xubuntu on steroids.   no privacy function to be seen
[09:45] <Ben64> what "privacy problems"
[09:45] <cfhowlett> Ben64, the amazon search passthrough etc ...
[09:45] <malinus> Ben64, ubuntu collecting your searches by default
[09:45] <Ben64> thats so easy to turn off
[09:46] <mehdi> good morning people
[09:46] <malinus> Ben64, yeah, I just wasn't sure if it was tied to the DE
[09:46] <illusion> hey mehdi
[09:46] <Ben64> sudo apt-get remove unity-lens-shopping
[09:47] <Ben64> then no more amazon search
[09:54] <arshavin> whenever i connect my nokia e63 with usb cable in pc-sute mode my touchpad stops working or woeks jerkily
[09:58] <yarpor> Hi
[09:59] <yarpor> How can I perform a script on files I select in Nautilus?
[10:02] <Slart> yarpor: there used to be something called nautilus actions you could use to create your own context-actions ie right-click-menu-things
[10:02] <yarpor> Slart, i'll google it, thanks
[10:03] <yarpor> Slart, or rather duckduckgo it
[10:03] <Slart> yarpor: do that.. if it still exists it isn't that hard to work with.. you can write the script in lots of ways, python, bash or whatever suits you
[10:04] <jokoon> how do I configure a font setting ?
[10:04] <jokoon> https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Font_Configuration
[10:05] <jokoon> I want to disable anti aliasing for a certain font
[10:05] <jokoon> what file should I edit
[10:08] <Stryke> i have a system with windows xp and im currently on an ubuntu live cd, my question is, is there a way I can know what version my windows xp installation is when im on an ubuntu live cd?
[10:08] <Stryke> without booting in xp
[10:08] <cfhowlett> Stryke, you are aware then XP is quite close or has already passed End Of Life ... no support
[10:09] <cfhowlett> Stryke, suggest you ask in ##windows
[10:09] <Slart> jokoon: not sure if it's called anti-aliasing.. I've seen "Smoothing", "Hinting" or "Subpixel rendering" for fonts... there used to be a settings window for this but it might affect all the fonts, not just one
[10:09] <jokoon> slart no I want to change just for one font
[10:10] <Slart> jokoon: well.. they mention a configuration file at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Fonts perhaps that might help you further
[10:14] <BluesKaj> Hey folks
[10:15] <lotuspsychje> BluesKaj: hey mate
[10:15] <BluesKaj> hi lotuspsychje
[10:16] <lotuspsychje> !backup > lotuspsychje
[10:24] <seriously_random> question about Ubuntu 13.10: Do I need special boot option to enable new radeon power management or is switched on by default?
[10:24] <cfhowlett> !saucy|seriously_random,
[10:25] <lesshaste> what's the recommended way to install the java jre?
[10:25] <lesshaste> for my browser
[10:26] <cfhowlett> !java
[10:27] <lesshaste> cfhowlett, thanks but that doesn't work
[10:27] <lesshaste> cfhowlett,     Install the openjdk-7-jre package using any installation method.    has a broken link
[10:27] <cfhowlett> lesshaste, sorry.  that was my only shot   :)
[10:27] <lesshaste> :(
[10:28] <lesshaste> what about just doing     Install the openjdk-7-jre package using any installation method.
[10:28] <lesshaste>  ?
[10:28] <lesshaste> and accepting the dependencies
[10:29] <lesshaste> sudo apt-get install icedtea-7-plugin
[10:29] <lesshaste> I mean
[10:29] <cfhowlett> lesshaste, try it
[10:30] <lesshaste> I am
[10:30] <lesshaste> but I wanted to see if an expert knew it was a bad idea :)
[10:30] <lesshaste> it *appears* to work
[10:30] <lesshaste> why don't they just have that on that page you linked to??
[10:30] <cfhowlett> lesshaste, :)
[10:40] <Depa> Hi :)
[10:40] <Depa> I have a problem while compiling
[10:40] <Depa> Plotmtv
[10:40] <cfhowlett> Depa, greetings
[10:40] <Depa> I download
[10:40] <Depa> on my Ubuntu 11.10
[10:41] <cfhowlett> !eol|Depa,
[10:41] <k1l> Depa: 11.10 is out of support. please first upgrade to at least 12.04
[10:41] <cfhowlett> depa no support for 11.10.  upgrade to a supported version
[10:42] <Depa> ok, thanks :) I will upgrade...
[10:42] <cloneG> hello I am using this command: sudo cat /var/log/auth.log | grep login
[10:42] <cloneG> and I would like to filter the search withinSep 19
[10:42] <cloneG> how would I type it?
[10:45] <cloneG> I used sudo cat /var/log/auth.log | grep login & grep 19 but this caused the terminal to post Sep lines and stop...I cant get the prompt again
[10:45] <Slart> cloneG: doesn't   sudo cat /var/log/auth.log | grep login | grep "Sep 19"    work?
[10:45] <cloneG> colons needed?
[10:45] <Slart> cloneG: just add another pipe | to pass the information on
[10:46] <cloneG> now terminal is hanged
[10:46] <cloneG> I dont know how to logout
[10:46] <Slart> cloneG: Ctrl C
[10:46] <cloneG> exit does nothing
[10:46] <cloneG> its a virtual machine
[10:46] <cloneG> okay ctrl+c worked
[10:58] <Guest75093> when i browse internet in my XUBUNTU, it makes all the other active internet connections slow(other PCs running win7 have zero speed)
[10:58] <Guest75093> but when i disconnect my internet connection, all other PCs works perfect
[10:58] <Guest75093> I have an 8MBps connection and works fine for me, but not others
[10:59] <geirha> Guest75093: So what's the problem? ;P
[10:59] <Dr_Willis> hmm. and the whole lan is connected to the same router?
[11:00] <WhiteWizard> so i suddenly am having these issues with ubuntu that prevent me from booting and am wondering what this has to do with
[11:00] <WhiteWizard> http://i.imgur.com/erl7NTY.jpg
[11:01] <Guest75093> yes the same router
[11:03] <andreiiar> Hello. Iwant to isntall lubuntu on a usb drive with persistence. I have unetboot. What filesystem shuld i format my usb drive. And it it 16GB. I noticed uneboot has an option for "preserve fiels across reboots" but it's only 9999MB max.
[11:04] <wilee-nilee> andreiiar, You would be better with a full install, with a usb of that size.
[11:04] <Dr_Willis> Guest75093: id have4 to say test  the system out with a few live cd's and differnt disrto live cd's and see if you can  determine if the issue is only with xubuntu, (and a specific browser) or affects other disrtos as well. You may want to mention this in the forums and on askubuntu.com i doubt if theres going to be an obvious reason.
[11:04] <SwashBuckla> Can you get Ubuntu Sound Recorder to output .spx (SPEEX)?
[11:05] <Dr_Willis> andreiiar:  you dont want to use a massively huge peristant save file. really a live-usb+persistant is more of a 'testing' type situation.  You wont want to be using it for months on end.
[11:05] <ihre> Guest75093: I'd check my current connections; sudo netstat -all -p -e -e | grep ESTABLISHED | cat | less
[11:05] <andreiiar> What does that mean? I install normaly onto usb and then put a boot manager on it?
[11:05] <Dr_Willis> andreiiar:  and you can also access the filesystem on the usb (it should be vfat/fat32/fat16)
[11:05] <Dr_Willis> andreiiar:   You can do a normal instgall to a usb of that size. i do it all the time.
[11:06] <Dr_Willis> andreiiar:  same as you would to an internal hard drive.
[11:06] <andreiiar> I see. Can I take it to other pc's?
[11:06] <Dr_Willis> andreiiar:  yes. if you are carefull about what video card drivers you install.
[11:06] <andreiiar> pshh
[11:06] <SwashBuckla> ANSWER to: "Can you get Ubuntu Sound Recorder to output .spx (SPEEX)?" -- It already does record to .spx! Sorry :)
[11:07] <Dr_Willis> tryign to run nvidia version drivers on a differnt pc that dosent support that version/card can be problematic
[11:07] <Dr_Willis> stick to the open sourced drivers if you are going to move the usb around
[11:16] <Xabster> Hi, clean install of 13.04 and sound is not working out of the box. I see my devices (3 of them) in the sound settings and none of them are muted and I'm not sure how to proceed
[11:16] <Xabster> I installed Rhytmbox thingy from the install screen (i left it out the last few times i tried ubuntu) - does that have any impact on the sound device?
[11:16] <loa> strange i waked up today, and my computer don't respond on all commands, i can't log on, can't reset it and switch off.
[11:17] <Xabster> oh, forgot say that the sound worked last time i tried ubuntu out of the box but without rhytmbox
[11:17] <loa> how i can get information what happened?
[11:20] <mehdi> who need help, i'm here :D
[11:21] <Xabster> me, mehdi !
[11:21] <Xabster> fix my sound and get a cookie
[11:21] <Dr_Willis> installing rythembox shouoldent affect system sound.
[11:22] <Dr_Willis> !sound
[11:22] <cfhowlett> Dr_Willis, pretty sure mere installation CAN'T effect system sound
[11:22] <Xabster> all 3 devices show in sound settings, non are muted, all are at 100% volume, no sound is produced in my headset - it's properly connected and worked before re-installing from windows to 13.04
[11:23] <Dr_Willis> so you are only using a headset?
[11:25] <Xabster> I have an amp too
[11:25] <Xabster> neither plays sound
[11:26] <Xabster> I went through the troubleshooting steps in the links you gave, all give good information
[11:26] <Xabster> the real devices are listed and they're not muted and volume is at 100% (confirmed via UI and via macmd -> list-sinks
[11:26] <Xabster> pacmd*
[11:28] <Xabster> in windows, before a driver takes control of the soundcard, there's a static sound in my speakers - that same sound is here now all the time
[11:28] <Xabster> in the speakers, not headset
[11:28] <Xabster> which is normal behaviour during boot up in windows
[11:29] <Xabster> so that tells me that it's not properly installed, but the devices are listed
[11:31] <ActionPa1snip> Xabster: what is the output of: wget -O alsa-info.sh http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-info.sh && chmod +x ./alsa-info.sh && ./alsa-info.sh --upload
[11:31] <BluesKaj> Xabster, intel hda chip?
[11:32] <Xabster> the driver is snd_hda_ something right now
[11:32] <Xabster> but i dont think it's that chip
[11:32] <Xabster> it's an asrock z77 pro3 board
[11:32] <ActionPa1snip> Xabster: run the command I gave, it will give us a lot of info about the sound subsystem
[11:32] <Xabster> ActionPa1snip: some permissions denied, do i need to add sudo on all 3 commands?
[11:32] <ActionPa1snip> Xabster: no, its one command too
[11:32] <ActionPa1snip> Xabster: run it from your user's home
[11:32] <ActionPa1snip> Xabster: run:   cd $HOME     first
[11:33] <ActionPa1snip> Xabster: as a user, you can run that command without issue
[11:33] <Xabster> xabster@xabster-desktop:~$ wget -O alsa-info.sh http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-info.sh && chmod +x ./alsa-info.sh && ./alsa-info.sh --upload alsa-info.sh: Permission denied
[11:33] <BluesKaj> Xabster, open alsamixer in the terminal , the chip will be shown in the ujpper left
[11:33] <ActionPa1snip> Xabster: sounds like your file system is read only
[11:33] <Xabster> BluesKaj: HDA Intel PCH
[11:34] <Xabster> that's the HDMI chip....
[11:34] <ActionPa1snip> Xabster: ok, try: sudo wget -O alsa-info.sh http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-info.sh  && sudo chmod +x ./alsa-info.sh && sudo ./alsa-info.sh
[11:34] <ActionPa1snip> Xabster: try that
[11:34] <ActionPa1snip> Xabster: select to upload and a URL will be generated
[11:35] <BluesKaj> Xabster, Open with root permissions  /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf , At the end of the file, add this line: options snd-hda-intel model=eapd probe_mask=1 position_fix=1
[11:35] <loa> hello, i create upstart job, how i can add it to autostart
[11:35] <loa> ?
[11:35] <Xabster> ActionPa1snip: http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=5b24a55d650775594f62d982054b068c8e30dd9a
[11:36] <Xabster> done, BluesKaj
[11:36] <BluesKaj> Xabster, also , run  sudo modprobe snd-hda-intel
[11:37] <Xabster> done
[11:37] <BluesKaj> Xabster, you probly have to reboot
[11:38] <Xabster> I'm fairly certain I have a realtek chip
[11:38] <Xabster> I think we're trying to fix my gfx card's output
[11:38] <BluesKaj> Xabster, yes but realtek uses intel
[11:38] <Xabster> ok
[11:38] <Xabster> so, reboot?
[11:38] <BluesKaj> yup
[11:39] <Xabster> alrighty, brb
[11:40] <Xabster_> no dice
[11:42] <BluesKaj> Xabster_, are they USB headphones ?
[11:42] <Xabster_> no, mini jack
[11:42] <Xabster_> same as speakers
[11:43] <Xabster_> could it be that my motherboard is not fully recognized?
[11:43] <BluesKaj> do the speakers work ?
[11:43] <Xabster_> i think in windows i gotta install a chip driver for the MB first
[11:43] <Xabster_> yes, they do :)
[11:43] <BluesKaj> then try the same jack , to test the 'phones
[11:43] <Xabster_> while i was just up i tested with earplugs too - 3 separate physical things and they worked 2-3 hours ago all of them
[11:44] <Xabster_> i have tested with earplugs, headset and speakers
[11:44] <Xabster_> it's not the hardware outside of my pc
[11:44] <Xabster_> i think it's got something to do with a driver for my MB's chipset
[11:46] <BluesKaj> Xabster_, what does , cat /proc/asound/modules output ?
[11:46] <Headcrab> i have a problem. my pc boots faster with the open source drivers but its not there. i'm using ubuntu 12.04 lts and have an amd radeon card
[11:46] <Xabster_> BluesKaj: 0 snd_hda_intel  1 snd_usb_audio  2 snd_hda_intel
[11:47] <BluesKaj> Xabster_, your sound drivers are loaded , what about alsamixer , do you have all the controls turned up and unmuted?
[11:47] <jglauche> I've got an 12.04 lts machine and swapped a graphics card to an ati hd7870 from having a nvidia card before. I removed the nvidia-drivers and manually installed the amd-cataclyst beta drivers. updatex the xorg.conf via aticonfig; however 3d acceleration doesn't work. This is why: OpenGL vendor string: VMware, Inc.
[11:48] <sled> Hi people
[11:48] <Headcrab> i found this which should be the open source drivers for amd what should I do with it? http://cgit.freedesktop.org/xorg/driver/xf86-video-ati
[11:48] <jglauche> can somebody help me track this down?
[11:48] <sled> can someone give me a short hint please
[11:48] <jglauche> (I'm on a phsical host, not inside a vm)
[11:49] <Xabster_> BluesKaj: checked and double checked via UI (sound settings) and with a command from the troubleshooting page i got earlier
[11:49] <sled> I am trying to install the cuda-cross-armhf package but I get the APT error that I have unmet dependencies:
[11:49] <sled> cuda-cross-armhf : Depends: cuda-cross-armhf-5-5 (= 5.5-22) but it is not going to be installed
[11:49] <BluesKaj> look in  alsamixer any way , Xabster_
[11:49] <sled> I dont find anything on google
[11:49] <sled> already searched sorry
[11:50] <Xabster_> BluesKaj: front mid is at 0 and can't be changed - the others are at 100
[11:50] <BluesKaj> Xabster_, paste it in imagebin
[11:50] <Xabster_> gonna try doing sudo apt-get install mesa-utils (found on site with sound issues of similar problems)
[11:51] <hramrach> sled: that means that the package exists but has unmet dependencies or conflicts with some of your other packages
[11:51] <Kaerys> Bonjou :)
[11:51] <Kaerys> bonjour*
[11:51] <hramrach> sled: try installing in a vm/chroot if you don;t know how to resolve that
[11:51] <sled> hramrach: this is already a vm
[11:51] <sled> this is a fresh ubuntu 12.04, as nvidia suggested>
[11:52] <hibari> Kaerys:slt
[11:52] <sled> I only installed gcc cross for armhf and cuda base toolkit
[11:52] <hramrach> I don't have that package so would not konw why it conflicts
[11:52] <hramrach> sled: you can also try aptitude instead of apt or add some options to print more information
[11:52] <Xabster_> BluesKaj: http://i.imgur.com/VXb0Snz.png
[11:53] <sled> lets try
[11:53] <hramrach> the dependency error reporting relly sucks
[11:53] <Xabster_> I'm reading something about upgrading kernel to 3.3.7 or something - think that will help?
[11:53] <BluesKaj> ok , Xabster_ , mesa-utils is an OpenGL graphical setting
[11:53] <Xabster_> oh
[11:53] <hramrach> sled: aptitude has some why and why-not commands that might be helpful
[11:54] <Xabster_> oh, i got 3.8, so nvm
[11:55] <quckquck> hi. is the OEM installer still supported? all the howtos i can find are at least two years old :/
[11:55] <BluesKaj> Xabster_, those fronts are microphone settings
[11:55] <cfhowlett> quckquck, it is still in 12.04 ...
[11:56] <Xabster_> BluesKaj: hmm, it says "playback" at the top
[11:56] <varunendra> sled, is this package from default repositories? Because I can't find in here (12.04.1)
[11:56] <sled> hramrach: Im trying aptitude
[11:56] <quckquck> cfhowlett: but how about 13.04?
[11:56] <sled> varunendra: no it is not, I had to run NVidias deb to add repos
[11:56] <cfhowlett> quckquck, sorry, LTS only here.  I don't know
[11:56] <hramrach> sled: note that the patitude resolver sucks and will offer solutions that randomly remove unrelated packages and such
[11:57] <hramrach> but at least it sometimes finds a solution
[11:57] <sled> hramrach: thats great.
[11:57] <hramrach> *aptitude
[11:57] <Dr_Willis> and sometimnes removes 300 packages then reinstalls them. ;)
[11:57] <hramrach> sled: advanced package management in 2013 for you
[11:58] <hramrach> no package manager I have seen so far can resolve dependencies
[11:58] <sled> hramrach: I have enough on advanced parallel algorithms on gpu in 2013 for now >P
[11:58] <ActionPa1snip> hramrach: aptitude also doesnt manage multiarch
[11:58] <hramrach> it does but not on 12.04 I guess
[11:58] <quckquck> cfhowlett: the boot-loader changed as far as i can see (and i can't figure out how to bring it to OEM)
[11:59] <cfhowlett> quckquck, IIRC hit f4 during the boot to get to the alternate install methods
[11:59] <cfhowlett> !alternate
[11:59] <cfhowlett> !install
[11:59] <hramrach> no alternative cd /o\
[11:59] <ActionPa1snip> !aptitude | hrm
[12:00] <Pici> ActionPa1snip: actually the version of aptitude from precise-updates should fix the multiarch issue.
[12:00] <Xabster_> Got any guide for me that will help me install drivers for Intel z77 chipset? I'm fairly certain this is causing my sound to not work
[12:01] <hramrach> Xabster_: there are no z77 chipset drivers. if Ubuntu booted it has support for your chipset
[12:01] <ActionPa1snip> Pici: oh, cool. Learn something new everyday
[12:01] <ActionPa1snip> Pici: should probably update the factoid ;0
[12:01] <Pici> ActionPa1snip: Yeah, I'm looking at it now
[12:02] <Xabster_> hramrach: i think it's using a generic driver and it's not recognizing the USB 3.0 ports and using the soundcard properly
[12:02] <Xabster_> is this not possible?
[12:03] <hramrach> Xabster_: then you need USB3 driver and flip some ALSA options. Or you can try a newer kernel if some exists
[12:03] <Dr_Willis> there can be bugs with somne of the drivers. Ive noticed some quirks with usb3 on this pc with earlier releases of ubuntu.
[12:03] <legend> hi
[12:03] <sled> people, also I dont know why, they make me add a foreign arch, then apt does not find repos for it... it is amrhf
[12:03] <SwashBuckla> does speex play on iPods?
[12:03] <Xabster_> hramrach: okay, so forget chipset driver - any idea on how to find a sound driver then?
[12:03] <Guest48224> i have a question for u experts
[12:04] <andreiair> Ok I am setting up ubuntu on my usb. Do I need swap space on it? My gess is no.
[12:04] <cfhowlett> !u
[12:05] <andreiair> Can you focus more on techincal ubuntu problems than how to talk right? We are in need of help here.
[12:05] <hramrach> Xabster_: it's in there. just try if it works better with newer Ubuntu or setting different card types for the onboard card
[12:05] <willows> andreiair: Why are you setting up Ubuntu on your USB? What will you use if for?
[12:06] <andreiair> Having a linux on me
[12:06] <andreiair> It's actualy lubuntu
[12:06] <willows> andreiair: I'm no expert, but if you're using it for general use I'd think a swap would be a good idea.
[12:07] <Xabster_> hramrach: "in there"? i have the newest kernel i believe
[12:07] <Xabster_> 13.04 out of the box?
[12:07] <Xabster_> anyway, i vaguely now remember having the issues before and it was solved with something that had to do with modprobe (never understood of any of the commands)
[12:07] <ActionPa1snip> Guest48224: ask away
[12:08] <ActionPa1snip> Xabster_: modprobe loads and unloads kernel modules
[12:08] <nibbler> andreiair: the need for swap depends on how well you satisfy your need ffor memory with actual ram. there is no rule of thumb for if or how much swap one needs
[12:08] <ActionPa1snip> Xabster_: what's not to understand?
[12:08] <Guest48224> heello
[12:09] <GPrs> hai
[12:09] <Xabster_> that for example
[12:10] <hramrach> Xabster_: install the kernel docs and look in Documentation/sound/alsa/HD-Audio.txt
[12:10] <GPrs> can you speak indonesian  ???
[12:10] <ActionPa1snip> !indonesian
[12:10] <ezra-s> fajita, errordocument context
[12:10] <ActionPa1snip> Xabster_: kernel modules are used to make hardware work in your OS. If you remove modules, things stop working, if you load them and they are needed, devices will jump into life
[12:11] <hramrach> Xabster_: also look for audio problems with your particular board model and what solution people used
[12:11] <ezra-s> wops, wrong window
[12:11] <ActionPa1snip> Xabster_: it's that simple
[12:11] <GPrs> what lesson now ???
[12:12] <BluesKaj> Xabster_, you mentioned that you have an amp , is it connected to the digital out on your soundcard , if not do so to see if that works at least
[12:12] <hramrach> GPrs: we don't speak Indonesian. People in #ubuntu-id may
[12:12] <andreiair> Well it wouldn't hurt tu put a gig of swap in there would it?
[12:13] <Xabster_> BluesKaj: my amp has no digital in
[12:13] <hramrach> swap does not hurt so long as you don'y put it on an network disk
[12:13] <nibbler> hramrach: or on a flashdrive.... as in andreiair's question
[12:13] <hadifarnoud> do I need to give any permission for ssh tunnel users?
[12:13] <GPrs> oke,,but what lesson now  ???
[12:14] <hramrach> flash drive might be OK but they are generally slow and your system will crash if you remove it
[12:14] <hadifarnoud> I'm giving a user to a friend in Iran, in order to bypass stupid internet blockage
[12:14] <bazhang> !ot | GPrs
[12:16] <BluesKaj> Xabster_, installing pavucontrol might help you configure and solidify your audio outputs
[12:16]  * jglauche curses at those proprietary ati drivers
[12:17] <barthem> nvidia isn't much better if you ask me
[12:17] <BluesKaj> nvidia works here
[12:17] <jglauche> they are equally worse..
[12:18] <BluesKaj> well , you're entitled to your opinion , jglauche , but I disagree
[12:18] <jglauche> but why.... why would it use a vmware driver? https://gist.github.com/Joaz/6792829
[12:18] <ws2k3> how can i install the fix for this bug : https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/rsyslog/+bug/565288
[12:19] <barthem> lol?
[12:19] <hramrach> ws2k3: use another logger ;-)
[12:19] <ws2k3> so the problem is in rsyslog?
[12:19] <hramrach> or the updated package they supposedly released, w/e
[12:21] <Xabster_> BluesKaj: not my volume control icon at the top right is gone, and pavucontrol only sees my HDMI digital output
[12:21] <hramrach> ws2k3: reportedly it only happens on ancient kernels. don't use ancient kernel then
[12:21] <Xabster_> now*
[12:21] <ws2k3> well sometimes my ubuntu servers are rebooting and then i have kernel: imklog: Cannot read proc file system, 1. in my kern.log
[12:21] <ws2k3> what you mean with an ancient kernel my english is not that great
[12:22] <barthem> legacy kernel i think
[12:22] <hramrach> ancient=very old
[12:22] <BluesKaj> Xabster_, sis someone tell you to remove pulseaudio ?
[12:22] <BluesKaj> did
[12:22] <ws2k3> i run ubuntu ludic
[12:22] <Xabster_> no
[12:22] <ws2k3> lucid it should have support until 2015
[12:22] <hadifarnoud> does -C make any difference in ssh tunnel?
[12:22] <cfhowlett> ws2k3, on server only
[12:22] <hramrach> ws2k3: what kernel?
[12:23] <ws2k3> 2.6.32-020632-generic
[12:23] <hramrach> you built that?
[12:23] <hramrach> does not look like Ubuntu version
[12:23] <ws2k3> its realy an ubuntu version
[12:23] <BluesKaj> ok Xabster_ , have you updated and upgraded since installing Ubuntu ?
[12:24] <ws2k3> i just runned apt-get update and upgrade
[12:24] <cfhowlett> ws2k3, sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[12:24] <Xabster_> BluesKaj: yes
[12:24] <hramrach> the versions in Uubntu should look like linux-image-2.6.32-22-server (2.6.32-22.35)
[12:24] <BluesKaj> lately ?
[12:25] <hramrach> no weird number in there
[12:25]  * jglauche has enough and upgrades to 13.04
[12:26] <Xabster_> BluesKaj: i installed today
[12:26] <Xabster_> so, within the hour
[12:26] <ws2k3> well i just installed with the lucid iso
[12:26] <BluesKaj> Xabster_, do , sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[12:26] <hramrach> why did you install something this ancient to start with?
[12:27] <ws2k3> the server is already runing for a while
[12:27] <Xabster_> BluesKaj: 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[12:27] <hramrach> and did the loggign work before? if it did they possibly forgot the patch to make it work in htis kernel package
[12:28] <ws2k3> server was installed in 2010
[12:28] <BluesKaj> Xabster_, :/ , well I'm out of ideas
[12:29] <cfhowlett> !ubuntu-server|ws2k3,
[12:29] <cfhowlett> ws2k3, maybe ask the #server channel?
[12:30] <BluesKaj> Xabster_, usually intel sound drivers work after , sudo modprobe snd-hda-intel , so it's amystery to me.
[12:30] <hramrach> BluesKaj: not for me. they fail on about every board I tried in some way
[12:31] <BluesKaj> hramrach, that's odd
[12:31] <hramrach> so it's not unusual for onboard audio to fail
[12:31] <BluesKaj> if the sound card/chips are intel that is,hr
[12:31] <hramrach> if you can afford and want to rid yourself of audio problems forever get an USB card
[12:31] <BluesKaj> hramrach,^
[12:32] <hramrach> BluesKaj: Intel does not do soundcards. They integrate some Realtek and similar junk on their boards
[12:33] <BluesKaj> hramrach, the intel snd modules fail to load after OS installs and updates , that's a common problem
[12:33] <BluesKaj> hramrach, doh
[12:34] <orcadian> Hi
[12:34] <achalverson> hi
[12:34] <narziss> Hi.
[12:34] <BluesKaj> ok , my turn to reboot
[12:34] <blurkis> does nothing about the soundcard work? I remember reading that it was only some output not working, and perhaps some channel needs to be put on in the mixers advanced settings? Its happened to me before
[12:35] <orcadian> Could you folks help me with a little problem?
[12:35] <blurkis> ^^ to whomeever who had the problem with sound..
[12:35] <hramrach> orcadian: no. you did not say what problem you have
[12:35] <cfhowlett> !details|orcadian,
[12:37] <orcadian> My fan is always running no matter what disto im running..it dont act like this under windows.. Im fearly new to linux so i dont really know where to start. im currently running dreamstudio  (ubuntu 12.04 precise) but are planning to move over to manjaro when i find a solution to this problem.
[12:37] <cfhowlett> orcadian, dreamstudio is not supported but ...
[12:37] <cfhowlett> !fan
[12:37] <ActionPa1snip> octanium: dreamstudio isnt supported here
[12:37] <gordonjcp> orcadian: are you actually an Orcadian?
[12:39] <orcadian> ActionPa1snip: Why isnt dreamstudio supported here? Its basically ubuntu 12.04..
[12:39] <ActionPa1snip> orcadian: NONE of the 'ubuntu based' distros are supported here
[12:39] <cfhowlett> orcadian, it's not an official Ubuntu Distro.
[12:39] <ActionPa1snip> orcadian: similarly, Ubuntu is based on Debain, but Debian and Ubuntu support is entirely separate too
[12:39] <orcadian> Gordon ..no..i didnt even know there was anything called an orcadian..i just made that name up as an xbox 360 user name
[12:40] <barthem> cfhowlett, isnt ubuntu 12,04 an offical ubuntu distro then?
[12:40] <ActionPa1snip> orcadian: for example, backtrack has it's own forum and it's own irc channel #backtrack-linux
[12:40] <Myrtti> barthem: dreamstudio isn't.
[12:40] <ActionPa1snip> barthem: yes, 12.04 is an official Ubuntu release if it is the one from Canonical
[12:41] <cfhowlett> barthem, ??? of course it is.  dream studio ain't.  Canonical = ubuntu.  Whoever = dreamstudio.
[12:41] <Myrtti> we don't have time or resources to check what else has been changed than the name
[12:41] <philinux> orcadian: dreamstudio has a support forum not sure about irc
[12:41] <orcadian> So where do i need to go to find my answer? And btw as i said..this problem persists in all distros i have tried. So the solution for this problems will most likely work under all distros
[12:41] <ActionPa1snip> orcadian: why not install the Ubuntu 12.04 from Canonical then you WILL be supported here, rather than using some hashed up distro by some guy in his bedroom
[12:41] <cfhowlett> orcadian, as you're currently using dreamstudio, ask them.  if/when you install ubuntu, ask here.
[12:42] <cfhowlett> orcadian, for instance, were you to install ubuntustudio, you'd be supported here
[12:42] <achalverson> how do i compile the newest kernel on ubuntu 13.04?
[12:42] <cfhowlett> !kernel
[12:43] <philinux> orcadian: dreamstudio forum here > http://dream.dickmacinnis.com/forum/forum
[12:43] <barthem> can someone explain to me what canonical is? can't really get a clear view from there website HOW exactly they are tied to ubuntu
[12:43] <cfhowlett> !canonical
[12:44] <orcadian> allright but then since i have ubuntu 12.04 on my other laptop with the same problem you could anwser my question anyway yes?
[12:44] <barthem> o thanks
[12:44] <WhiteWizard> you beat me to it
[12:44] <WhiteWizard> !google
[12:44] <ActionPa1snip> orcadian: if you use nlite on a Windows CD to make a 'windows based' operating system and hack out a lot of functionality and add your own, do you think microsoft tech support will help you?
[12:44]  * cfhowlett ... prefers www.lmgtfy.com but is too polite to indulge
[12:44] <WhiteWizard> !imgify
[12:44] <philinux> orcadian: yes if you're running 12.04
[12:45] <eliahjohnsonfaha> hello guys
[12:45] <cfhowlett> eliahjohnsonfaha, greetings
[12:45] <barthem> hello
[12:45] <jmgk> hey
[12:45] <eliahjohnsonfaha> need some help, somebody can help me how to install bochs manually
[12:46] <ActionPa1snip> !info bochs
[12:46] <WhiteWizard> !info redbull
[12:46] <WhiteWizard> ;
[12:46] <Pici> !msgthebot | WhiteWizard
[12:46] <barthem> haha nice try
[12:46] <WhiteWizard> :o that bot is dirty
[12:47] <barthem> so ! is suppose to give common information about something
[12:47] <barthem> interesting
[12:47] <ActionPa1snip> eliahjohnsonfaha: why not use the one in the repos?
[12:48] <orcadian> Hey is there an generall linux irc channel?
[12:48] <ActionPa1snip> orcadian: #linux
[12:49] <orcadian> thanks
[12:49] <Suarte45> say i do Ctrl+Alt+F1 and then log in... what must i type to launch gui ?
[12:49] <eliahjohnsonfaha> @ActionPalsnip: because when i use one in the repos, that's doesn't have debugger
[12:49] <ActionPa1snip> Suarte45: press CTRL+ALT+F7
[12:49] <ActionPa1snip> eliahjohnsonfaha: I see, is there a PPA?
[12:50] <Suarte45> thankyou
[12:50] <Suarte45> will it work for lubuntu as well?
[12:50] <eliahjohnsonfaha> @ActionPalsnip: PPA? No
[12:51] <willows> Suarte45: yes
[12:51] <philinux> orcadian: http://askubuntu.com/questions/282665/laptop-fan-always-on-in-ubuntu-12-10
[12:51] <Suarte45> is that equivalent to doing startlubuntu?
[12:51] <ActionPa1snip> eliahjohnsonfaha: could be worth checking
[12:51] <jmgk> Would you ever use IRC on a mobile?
[12:51] <jmgk> jsut wodnering how well it would work?
[12:51] <jmgk> wondering*
[12:51] <ActionPa1snip> Suarte45: if the X server is running you will switch back
[12:52] <ActionPa1snip> Suarte45: or you can run:  startx   to get the session loaded for your user
[12:52] <Suarte45> ok
[12:53] <willows> Suarte45: Ctrl+Alt+F1 brings you to TTY1, Ctrl+Alt+F2 brings you to TTY2, etc. TTY7 is typically the graphical one for ubuntu
[12:53] <Pici> jmgk: thats not really on-topic for #ubuntu. Perhaps #ubuntu-offtopic has their own opinions about it.
[12:54] <Xabster> ActionPa1snip: i download a driver, ./configure, ./make, ./make install and now i believe i need to run a modprobe to make it load it is that correct?
[12:54] <Xabster> audio driver
[12:55] <arshavin> after installing latest nvidia-driver my tty1-6 are blank only X-server runs
[12:56] <Suarte45> startx gives error cannot load session gnome
[12:56] <Suarte45> Ctrl+Alt+F7 brings to login screen even though i already logged in
[12:56] <arshavin> jmgk: i have used it on my cheap chinese droid it worked quite well
[12:57] <ActionPa1snip> Suarte45: you can be logged in many times
[12:57] <Suarte45> i tried startlxde does not work
[12:57] <ActionPa1snip> Xabster: modprobe wil load the driver you name, yes
[12:57] <loa> how i can add upstart job to autoload on system start?
[12:57] <ActionPa1snip> Xabster: as you have done that manually, you will need to do that every time you get a new kernel
[12:57] <Suarte45> ActionPa1snip: what command will bring me to gui already logged in as i am?
[12:57] <loa> i write upstart job it work as expected.
[12:58] <loa> but it don't start on system start
[12:59] <ActionPa1snip> Suarte45: startx
[13:00] <Xabster> ActionPa1snip: but the make install said that the device was installed by all channels muted and when i look into my volume control there are no muted channels...
[13:00] <Xabster> by = and
[13:00] <Suarte45> ActionPa1snip: startx gives error cannot load session gnome
[13:00] <Suarte45> ActionPa1snip: I have lubuntu
[13:01] <ActionPa1snip> Suarte45: then change your session to lxde
[13:01] <ActionPa1snip> Suarte45: or lubuntu
[13:01] <Suarte45> ActionPa1snip: how? i did startlubuntu and that gives error cannot open display
[13:01] <Suarte45> ActionPa1snip: cp: impossible to create the standard file <<//.config/lxterminal/lxterminal.conf>> No file or folder of this type. ** Message: main.vala:63: Session is Lubuntu ** Message: main.vala:64: Session is Lubuntu DE is LXDE  (lxsession:6917: Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display:
[13:02] <Suarte45> ActionPa1snip: problem i have is i cannot login anymore in my main account
[13:02] <jglauche> welcome to ubuntu 13.04... we still thank you for using vmware drivers with your ati graphics card... wtf
[13:03] <Suarte45> ActionPa1snip: I can log in only with Ctrl+Alt+F1
[13:04] <ActionPa1snip> Suarte45: if you run: cat ~/.config/lxterminal/lxterminal.conf     do you get http://paste.ubuntu.com/6183751/
[13:04] <Suarte45> ActionPa1snip: other accounts work fine, problem is only with main account
[13:04] <dllama> hi guys, would someone mind telling me how to pass compiling arguments into apt-get?  for instance poppler-utils --enable-xpdf-headers
[13:05] <ikonia> dllama: you don't
[13:05] <ikonia> dllama: apt-get is a package manger, not a compiler, packages are not compiled
[13:05] <dllama> so i have to build it from source?
[13:05] <dllama> or first install it and then update it?
[13:05] <ikonia> sorry, what are you actually trying to do ?
[13:05] <dllama> install poppler-utils with xpdf-headers
[13:06] <ikonia> dllama: so does the package poppler-utils depend on the package xpdf-headers
[13:06] <Suarte45> ActionPa1snip: yes from the guest session. in the main user account that file isnt there and also the folder lxterminal isnt there
[13:06] <dllama> ikonia, the installation instructions say to compile with —enable-xpdf-headers
[13:07] <ikonia> dllama: that may not be needed, does ubuntu have pre-built packages ?
[13:07] <Suarte45> ActionPa1snip: from terminal i dont see it. maybe it gets created when launching interface?
[13:07] <dllama> ikonia, i'm not sure tbh
[13:08] <ikonia> dllama: check
[13:08] <dllama> unless i misunderstood ur question
[13:08] <dllama> i dont know how
[13:08] <Slart> dllama: have a look at apt-build, man apt-build should tell you how to add compiler flags if there is an easy way
[13:08] <philinux> dllama: from synaptic > Poppler is a PDF rendering library based on Xpdf PDF viewer.
[13:08] <dllama> i'm more of a front end developer :/
[13:08] <Suarte45> ActionPa1snip: in main user should .config files be owned by root?
[13:12] <Suarte45> ActionPa1snip: for the main user, in the .config folder i have only leafpad, openbox and Trolltech.conf  (no lxterminal folder)
[13:12] <zykotick9> Suarte45: i'd verify that .Xauthority in your main account isn't owned by root...
[13:12] <Suarte45> zykotick9: hi (and thanks) again.  how do i do that?
[13:13] <zykotick9> Suarte45: in your user's home, to "ls -al .Xauthority"
[13:14] <Suarte45> ok be back soon
[13:20] <Suarte444> zykotick9: ok i think the solution is closer. so i noticed the following. the .config i was talking before about is not the .config in the main users home folder. it's the .config in /  .
[13:20] <waldenista> So no XMir for Ubuntu 13.10?
[13:20] <Suarte444> zykotick9: in fact when i log in with my main user there is a message that says No directory, logging in with HOME=/
[13:20] <cfhowlett> !saucy|waldenista,
[13:21] <philinux> waldenista: you need to join #ubuntu+1
[13:21] <zykotick9> Suarte444: if your /home a separate partition?  is it mounted?
[13:21] <waldenista> thx
[13:22] <Suarte444> zykotick9: so i did cd home and then ls. i see my main users folder there. so i did cd thatfolder and then i get permission denied. so basically looks like the problem is my main user lost permissions to his home folder. what do you think?
[13:22] <Suarte444> how the heck did this happen?
[13:22] <zykotick9> Suarte444: "cd /home" then "ls -l"
[13:24] <zykotick9> Suarte444: while in /home, you should be able to "sudo chown -R YOURUSERNAME:YOURUSENAME yourusersfolder/"
[13:28] <Suarte45> zykotick9: only difference comparing to the other normal user that works is  drw-r--r--  instead of drwxr-xr-x  (3 xs are missing)
[13:28] <TheReduxPL> Hello. Do you know where to get ia32-libs-gtk?
[13:29] <zykotick9> Suarte45: from /home still, run "sudo chmod +x yourusersfolder"
[13:29] <zykotick9> Suarte45: x means, enter this directory
[13:30] <ihre> zykotick9: why would you give execution rights on the entire homedir of a user ?;x
[13:31] <zykotick9> ihre: because you need it!  i'm NOT using recursive here.
[13:32] <TheReduxPL> Hi, do you know where can I get ia32-libs-gtk package and all needed dependencies for Ubuntu 13.04?
[13:32] <zykotick9> ihre: you should read what executable means, when applied to directories...
[13:33] <Suarte45> zykotick9: just to make sure i was clear. what i did was Ctrl+Alt+F1, logged in my main user, then cd home and then ls -l  there i had as output two lines one per folder (the main user and the other user). main user misses the xs. so should i proceed as you said?
[13:33] <zykotick9> Suarte45: yes.
[13:33] <Suarte45> ok
[13:35] <zykotick9> Suarte45: once you've done the "sudo chmod +x yourusersfolder" try to cd into it.
[13:36] <ihre> zykotick9: i'd rather not have +x on my homedir for (o) but w/e
[13:36] <zykotick9> ihre: that's fair, debian/ubuntu default to having it - but many other distros don't...
[13:38] <TheReduxPL> Hi, do you know where can I get ia32-libs-gtk package and all needed dependencies for Ubuntu 13.04?
[13:39] <zykotick9> TheReduxPL: using ia32-anything is quasi-deprecated at this point... you might want to look into multiarch, and how it works.  best of luck.
[13:39] <Senor> does ubuntu boot with udev?
[13:39] <TheReduxPL> I just need that package to run Cisco Packet Tracer. I have done something in that way but I failed.
[13:39] <ett> ciao  bodhibob
[13:39] <TheReduxPL> I used "sudo dpkg --add-architecture i386 && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install ia32-libs-gtk:i386" but without effect
[13:40] <Guest19337> sei su rete ubuntu
[13:41] <cfhowlett> !frf|Guest19337,
[13:41] <Suarte45> problem solved :) thankyou zykotick9
[13:42] <zykotick9> Suarte45: glad to help
[13:42] <Suarte45> zykotick9: how could this have happened?
[13:42] <cfhowlett> !fr|Guest19337,
[13:42] <zykotick9> Suarte45: i have no clue.  where you playing with chmod perhaps?
[13:43] <zykotick9> Suarte45: "history | grep chmod" did you run a "chmod -x foo" at some time?
[13:43] <Suarte45> Suarte45: not at all. wasnt playing with terminal in no way. only did regular stuff. updates maybe?
[13:44] <zykotick9> Suarte45: then i really have NO idea how it would happen...
[13:44] <Suarte45> my feeling is that thing got messed up after i did a big set of updates
[13:45] <Suarte45> last question: why does startlubuntu not work? i mean i can log in normally now but if i do Ctrl+Alt+F1 log in and then startlubuntu it still does not work (cannot open display error)
[13:46] <Suarte45> does not work for all users
[13:46] <dsa> a
[13:46] <dsa> hey there
[13:46] <k1l_> Suarte45: the ubuntu way to start a desktop is to start the loginscreen (sudo service lightdm start) and then login
[13:47] <Suarte45> maybe i need to type something else, not just startlubuntu?
[13:47] <zykotick9> Suarte45: "lspci | grep -i vga"?
[13:48] <k1l_> Suarte45: btw: what is wrong with letting the lightdm start the desktop?
[13:48] <dsa> can anyone tell me how i can list all channels (/list) and save it into a text file?
[13:48] <doki_pen> I set my parents up with a dual boot ubuntu/windows box a couple of years ago. They tried to update ubuntu and somehow screwed up grub so that windows isn't listed anymore. I've run update-grub and it's not adding windows to the boot list. is there any reason this might happen?
[13:48] <doki_pen> windows still looks intact on /dev/sda2. I can mount the ntfs and see all the windows files
[13:48] <Suarte45> k1l_: nothing wrong, it works fine as you say, i just wanted to undersatnd why the other way isnt working
[13:49] <doki_pen> there is also an empty /dev/sda1 ntfs partition, not sure if that got damaged
[13:49] <k1l_> Suarte45: ubuntu lets the dm handle the x startup.
[13:49] <dsa> gatorei
[13:49] <Suarte45> zykotick9: 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation GT218 [GeForce 210] (rev a2)
[13:49] <dsa> artrosi en lah piennas boludo
[13:49] <zykotick9> Suarte45: thanks, but if it's working with lightdm, then all is good already.
[13:50] <k1l_> !english | dsa
[13:50] <Suarte45> zykotick9: ok. thanks again. anything i can do for you?
[13:51] <zykotick9> Suarte45: when you see something you can help with in #ubuntu, offer your advise ;)
[13:51] <Suarte45> :)
[13:53] <Suarte45> bye :)
[13:53] <newbie06> hey guys, i was wondering if someone here could help me sort out a problem i am having on my ubuntu server
[13:54] <StarFlower> ask your question WriteEscape and if we can we wilk
[13:54] <cfhowlett> !ubuntu-server|WriteEscape,
[13:55] <WriteEscape> lol, i know what it is, i've got this stupid error and i dunno how to solve it
[13:55] <cfhowlett> !details|WriteEscape,
[13:55] <t_dot_zilla> would anyone have any advice on configuring php5-fpm, APC and nginx on debian that hosts over 70 php+mysql sites? (mysql is on a separate server)
[13:55] <WriteEscape> cfhowlett: http://pastebin.com/wXRtSQh0
[13:56] <Pici> t_dot_zilla: Try #debian or #nginx or ##php, this is #ubuntu
[13:56] <cfhowlett> WriteEscape, blocked by the great firewall of China - I can't see it.
[13:56] <t_dot_zilla> thanks Pici i did :) figured i'd try here too
[13:56] <Pici> WriteEscape: Is that you trying to login?
[13:57] <WriteEscape> Pici: no, thats the problem
[13:57] <WriteEscape> Pici: no, infact i was asleep when it happened
[13:57] <calston> anyone know why with preseed I pass netcfg/disable_dhcp=true to the install CD boot parameters and a full set of network config options, it still tries to do DHCP
[13:58] <Pici> WriteEscape: Thats what happens to internet facing servers. You can install fail2ban which would automatically ban IPs after they fail to authenticate a certain number of times.
[13:58] <Pici> !info fail2ban
[14:00] <WriteEscape> Pici: i could install it if i can put the files on it using ftp
[14:00] <Pici> WriteEscape: no, you'd need to use apt to install it like any other package.
[14:03] <WriteEscape> Pici: they've turned off internet access from the server out, which is pretty unhelpful
[14:07] <CQ> hello, I have a raid question... when raiding should you raid the whole disk (2x2tb) and use LVM on top, or is it better to have smaller boot raids and then OS+data in a separate big raid with LVM on top?
[14:08] <Pici> WriteEscape: You could upload a new /etc/hosts.deny file that contained something like ALL: 31.3.245.250
[14:09] <Pici> WriteEscape: That would prevent at least the one IP that is present in that log from being able to connect.
[14:11] <WriteEscape> Pici: but thats the server's own ip
[14:14] <Xabster> When I try to enlarge windows and I drag a corner it's as if my mouse lets go in random places
[14:14] <Xabster> so, it's really hard to hit that corner precisely
[14:14] <Xabster> are there any fixes for these issues?
[14:14] <Xabster> so = also*
[14:16] <Jeena> Hi, I am trying to add a custom URI scheme to my app and I found this http://jarrpa.net/2011/10/28/creating-custom-url-handlers-in-ubuntu-11-04-11-10-gnome-3-0/ which does almost what I want, it opens the "Launch Application" window if you click on a link with my custom schema. Sadly the list of applications is empty like you can see on this screenshot: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BVk4f2DCUAEN0I8.png
[14:16] <Jeena> what do I need to do so my application shows up in the list? Unexperienced users will not be able to find the binary on their hard disc
[14:16] <genii> Hm, gnome3
[14:17] <geirha> Xabster: If you hold down Alt, you can click and drag with the middle button somewhere near the corner
[14:17] <Pici> WriteEscape: uh... Then you have a bigger problem.
[14:17] <WriteEscape> Pici: whats the problem then?
[14:18] <Pici> WriteEscape: Something on your server is trying to ssh to itself and is failing to login, which sounds pretty weird to me.
[14:18] <Xabster> geirha: thanks but i really would like a better solution
[14:18] <Dougie187> I started using duplicity a while ago, and recently whenever it tries to create a new backup the backup fails, and then my whole computer essentially breaks. My terminal says "read only file system" whenever I try to do anything.
[14:19] <Xabster> if like if i try to drag over other windows that have "active" elements like a button then it sometimes clicks those
[14:19] <Xabster> while i'm resizing
[14:19] <WriteEscape> Pici: agreed
[14:20] <Xabster> another odd thing: if i right click in a browser to get the context menu and rapidly left click outside of it the context menu stays
[14:20] <Xabster> i gotta wait about half to a whole second to click to make it dissapear...?
[14:21] <Dougie187> Is there a log I can look for duplicity errors in?
[14:24] <mbeierl> WriteEscape, to confirm:  31.3.245.250 is what shows up when you do ifconfig?  Or is that perhaps a NAT device/firewall that is forwarding packets to you from the internet side?
[14:25] <universal> everytime I copy a web link to my pendrive....it gives error saying invalid filename.....whats the fix ?
[14:25] <WriteEscape> Yes thats right mbeierl
[14:26] <mbeierl> universal, perhaps it is formatted with NTFS or VFAT and you are trying to save a file with a name like "http://" which would be illegal for those filesystems?
[14:26] <mbeierl> WriteEscape, sorry, which is right?  It is the IP address in ifconfig?
[14:26] <WriteEscape> yes it is mbeierl
[14:26]  * mbeierl should learn not to ask two question at the same time
[14:27] <Magyarok> Hello
[14:27] <s1536273> first time using irssi test :P
[14:27] <mbeierl> WriteEscape, ok, so that confirms somehow that the breakin attempt is coming from itself.  Which is odd indeed.
[14:27] <Magyarok> Could someone help me with setting up a home server using ubuntu please?
[14:27] <WriteEscape> yup
[14:28] <memar> guys
[14:28] <WriteEscape> mbeierl: do you think it's worh a reinstall?
[14:29] <mbeierl> WriteEscape, well... right now it appears harmless enough, but I would be worried that it might try to crack other systems if it's some sort of software that is running locally that is really an ssh attack
[14:30] <WriteEscape> all thats running on it is tcadmin2, teamspeak3
[14:30] <mbeierl> WriteEscape, I'd be more inclined to get to the bottom of it, rather than just re-install, but I don't know the network that it is on
[14:30] <Magyarok> Is their anyone here?
[14:30] <mbeierl> you could try logging (tcpdump) all outbound traffic destined for port 22 for a period of time and see if it re-occurs
[14:31] <WriteEscape> mbeierl: Yeah, i'm just confused about it
[14:31] <mbeierl> Magyarok, yes.  The simple answer would be get the installation disk and install it.  What is your question and intended purpose for the server?
[14:31] <WriteEscape> mbeierl: i use it for a minecraft server
[14:31] <ActionPa1snip> Magyarok: what sort of server?
[14:32] <Magyarok> I would like to have a centralized place to store documents. Also, I would like to have it as a media/entertainment server
[14:32] <mbeierl> WriteEscape, something like tcpdump -i eth0 'port 22'.  But don't do that over ssh or it will log all its own traffic :)
[14:33] <mbeierl> WriteEscape, which might mean you need to install tcpdump, which you can't due to network restrictions... and so on it goes
[14:34] <mbeierl> Magyarok, file server for MS Windows, Mac or other Linux computers?
[14:34] <rigo88> is the fgrlx still broken?
[14:35] <rigo88> and.. can the X server start if no displays are connected yet?
[14:35] <Magyarok> All three, mbeierl
[14:36] <mbeierl> Magyarok, for that part then, you are probably wanting to set it up with Samba file sharing.  I cannot speak for the media server
[14:36] <Magyarok> Okay, thanks mbeierl
[14:37] <rigo88> please?
[14:37] <ihre> Magyarok: minidlna is quite good for mediaserver purposes, there are packages like plex but those are quite heavy on resources.
[14:38] <Magyarok> ihre, know anything about media servers?
[14:38] <ihre> Magyarok: well, I run minidlna & plex on my own diy nas
[14:41] <ihre> Magyarok: this is a small minidlna config, which works just fine for my music, series & movies: http://sprunge.us/hOce
[14:42] <Magyarok> ihre, Thanks appreciate the help!
[14:43] <mustmodify> Hi team. Is there a tool like grep but that highlights search words but doesn't filter? So if I did ls | tool html, it would just highlight 'html' in the directory list?
[14:44] <ihre> Magyarok: you're welcome, that config is pretty self explanatory I believe, the media_dir has a A or V appended, A for audio dirs and V for video dirs.
[14:45] <ihre> mustmodify: try ls | grep --color=auto html
[14:46] <m1mm> somebody knows popular channels on freenode
[14:46] <mustmodify> ihre: Sorry, I'm not making myself clear. That certainly colors the HTML... but it filters out lines that don't match. I want to show all resulting lines, coloring matches, but including lines that don't match.
[14:47] <onefix_work> Anyone used SAINT and Retina CS?
[14:47] <Myrtti> !alis | m1mm
[14:51] <Magyarok> ihre, could I ask you another question?
[14:51] <ihre> sure
[14:53] <Magyarok> okay, I have read a couple instructionals on creating a home server. I am confused about which version of ubuntu to burn to a disk, desktop or server.
[14:54] <ihre> Magyarok: for a server I prefer headless ubuntu 12.04 x64 (thus the server edition)
[14:54] <bcdonadio> Am I able to update from precise to saucy trough "do-release-upgrade"? It keeps trying to install quantal, but I don't want to update the whole system 3 times...
[14:54] <WriteEscape> mbeierl: i found the problem
[14:54] <mojtaba> Hi, Does anybody know when 13.10 is available?
[14:55] <mojtaba> hello?
[14:55] <Head_Phone> is it me you're looking for?
[14:56] <MoleMan> I can see it in your eyes,
[14:56] <Head_Phone> mojtaba, release date for 13.10c can be found on wikipedia
[14:56] <ActionPa1snip> MoleMan: guess, look at the version number and think
[14:56] <Head_Phone> i believe it to be somewhere this month
[14:56] <Head_Phone> 14th or something
[14:56] <mojtaba> Ok, thanks
[14:56] <MoleMan> ActionPa1snip: accidental/wrong hilight?
[14:57] <MoleMan> ah yeah, I see what you did  :p
[14:57] <deinspanjer> I have an Ubuntu install that lives inside a VirtualBox image created by Vagrant.  I've been using it from home, but I booted it up today from Portugal, and when I tried to run sudo apt-get update, it times out, it is having trouble resolving us.archive.ubuntu.com.  What should I do to fix that?
[14:57] <ActionPa1snip> mojtaba: look at the version numbers and think :)
[14:57] <ActionPa1snip> MoleMan: tab fail, sorry
[14:57] <mojtaba> ActionPa1snip: 13.10 then is 2013/10. what do you think?
[14:58] <MoleMan> d/w I realised what you'd done when I read up a few lines
[14:58] <ActionPa1snip> mojtaba: yes and the 10th month is October
[14:58] <MoleMan> also, never knew that
[14:58] <mojtaba> ActionPa1snip: Yes and now is Oct.
[14:58] <MoleMan> what version of ubuntu was being used in 1999 then?
[14:58] <ihre> mustmodify: Im not sure how to list all files, yet filter/color a pattern, sorry
[14:58] <deinspanjer> hmm.. I didn't actually "boot it up" I restored a suspended run.. lemme try fully shutting down the vm and restarting
[14:59] <ActionPa1snip> MoleMan: there wasn't ubuntu in 1999
[14:59] <MoleMan> oh, shame :p
[14:59] <MoleMan> probably would have realised if I thought about it
[14:59] <MoleMan> wasn't much going on at that point
[14:59] <deinspanjer> yep! that was it.
[14:59] <MoleMan> in my defence, I was only 4
[15:00] <deinspanjer> wow.. I'm old :(
[15:01] <MoleMan> nah, I'm just young.
[15:01] <deinspanjer> I remember back in 2002, I started playing with Gentoo that had just came out..
[15:01] <deinspanjer> I'm trying to remember what I played with before then
[15:01] <deinspanjer> Some form of RedHat I think..
[15:09] <loa> hello, i created upstart job, if i start it like this sudo mjpg_streamer all is ok, but it don't start on system boot
[15:09] <loa> i can give content of it if someone interested.
[15:10] <loa> maybe i must add name of job somewhere?
[15:12] <willows> loa: What version of Ubuntu are you using?
[15:18] <rajrajraj> i am installing NS2 and have been searching over internet for a long time, regarding the problem "tcl-1.14 configuration failed! Exiting ..." can anyone help me solve the problem
[15:18] <rajrajraj> *"otcl-1.14 configuration failed! Exiting ..."
[15:27] <nick07> hi, how do i disable my ubuntu openssh server from being seen (blocked) outside (internet) my LAN
[15:28] <baphomet1> Is anyone here available to help me out with a VPNC issue?  I am unable to connect to an IPSec tunnel (openswan) from my unbutu client using VPNC.  I am able to connect to this tunnel just fine from a windows, osx and iOS client.
[15:29] <Zhaofeng_Li> nick07: sudo apt-get remove openssh-server
[15:29] <BluesKaj> baphomet1, ok got l2tp-ipsec-vpn installed ?
[15:29] <agumonkey> I booted arch to repair another distro that have sudo issues
[15:30] <agumonkey> any pointers on what to edit ? (I guess /etc/group)
[15:30] <baphomet1> BluesKaj, on the server or the client?
[15:31] <willows> agumonkey: What exactly are the issues?
[15:31] <Pici> agumonkey: Where is Ubuntu in this scenario?
[15:31] <BluesKaj> client , but I see vpnc is a cisco client , not familiar with at one , baphomet1
[15:31] <BluesKaj> that one rqather
[15:32] <agumonkey> Pici: it's Mint15 , I booted arch because I only had that on a usb key
[15:32] <Pici> agumonkey: We don't support Mint here.
[15:32] <Pici> !mintsupport | agumonkey
[15:32] <agumonkey> Pici: fair enough, their help chan is asleep so I came here just in case
[15:33] <k1l_> if you dont like asleep support channels you should consider using a distro that got a not asleep support channel :/
[15:34] <baphomet1> BluesKaj, hmm.
[15:34] <mryohan> ssh -D 127.0.0.1:1080 me@remote.host <-- logs me into the server instead of doing dynamic port forwarding, what am I doing wrong?
[15:34] <BluesKaj> baphomet1, what's your connection error ?
[15:35] <agumonkey> k1l_: that was kinda unnecessary
[15:35] <agumonkey> bye folks
[15:36] <AndChat|4016> I am new to open source ,what are the pre requsites to be able to contribute to ubuntu?
[15:36] <r02922070> cd
[15:36] <baphomet1> BluesKaj, VPNC says "no response from target".  But if this is because VPNC is only designed for cisco clients.  do you know if there is a network manager plugin thing for the l2tp-ipsec-vpn package you recommended?
[15:36] <willows> AndChat|4016: How would you like to contribute..?
[15:39] <AndChat|4016> I am intermediate in programming .i want to help in programing.what are the upcoming features in ubuntu on which I can work on?
[15:39] <zykotick9> !develop | AndChat|4016
[15:39] <rebar> hell how do I connect to a ftp server in the terminal? I want to connect to sunnet ftp server to download iso image
[15:39] <wylde> !contribute | AndChat|4016
[15:40] <jmgk> lol rebar  "hell"
[15:40] <jmgk> Made my day
[15:40] <BluesKaj> baphomet1,, you can run l2tp client separately from NM
[15:41] <rebar> jmgk: hahah
[15:41] <baphomet1> BluesKaj, I do not want to have to use the CLI to connect everytime.
[15:41] <AndChat|4016> Thanks .will go through it.
[15:41] <BluesKaj> you don't baphomet1 it has it's own gui applet
[15:42] <baphomet1> BluesKaj, what does? Openswan?
[15:42] <andreiiar> Hello! This is dog!
[15:42] <paopao> CentOS is great
[15:42] <baphomet1> BluesKaj, you are blowing my mind right now, BTW haha.  I have been working on this for a while and going about it the wrong way this entire time haha
[15:43] <mryohan> hai dog
[15:43] <Sander^work> How can I check how much space is reserved for root for a disk?
[15:43] <BluesKaj> baphomet1, l2tp-ipsec-vpn does , it's in the repos just install from software center or console
[15:44] <baphomet1> BluesKaj, do I need to generate a new x.509 cert when installing?
[15:44] <zykotick9> Sander^work: it's 5% by default i believe, i usually change it to 1% - but how to see that... i have no clue.
[15:44] <BluesKaj> no
[15:44] <baphomet1> BluesKaj, I had actually come across this applet before and it didn't work for me.  let me try again
[15:44] <Sander^work> zykotick9, I remember that there is some command to check it. But I cant rememeber which command.
[15:44] <BluesKaj> baphomet1, no
[15:45] <baphomet1> BluesKaj, ok.  let me try this out.  just a moment
[15:45] <xeeder> tom clancy is dead?
[15:45] <BluesKaj> yup
[15:46] <BluesKaj> xeeder, he died a few yrs ago
[15:46] <phunyguy> Sander^work: zykotick9: http://vishesh-yadav.com/blog/2011/09/01/decrease-reserved-space-in-ext2ex3ext4-filesystems/
[15:46] <andreiiar> I use lubuntu and was on tty2 ( that is how console is called right ? ) , Then i was away for some time
[15:47] <andreiiar> And tty2 along with all tty besides the one with X11 stopped working
[15:47] <andreiiar> I mean I cant type anything
[15:47] <zykotick9> phunyguy: thanks.
[15:47] <baphomet1> BluesKaj, it's trying to connect now
[15:47] <phunyguy> andreiiar: careful, or FloodBot will get you.
[15:48] <phunyguy> andreiiar: please try to keep it on 1-2 lines
[15:49] <andreiiar> Im no scared of no bot/
[15:49] <baphomet1> BluesKaj, error 500 and error 300.  would be nice if the thing that said "click to show details" was actually clickable "S
[15:49] <BluesKaj> baphomet1, you probly need a prearranged key for the server . if you already have it then it should connect
[15:49] <baphomet1> BluesKaj, it is PSK.  it is not connecting though
[15:50] <phunyguy> andreiiar: can't say I didn't warn you. :)
[15:50] <Donnie_Darko21> hello ppl ,i was wondering why dont appear java on mozzilla ?
[15:51] <BluesKaj> could you screenshot to imagebin a pioc odf the connection dialog box with the the various field , baphomet1
[15:51] <andreiiar> You could answer people questions instead of playing puppet for those bots.
[15:51] <baphomet1> BluesKaj, hang on.
[15:51] <BluesKaj> a pic of
[15:51] <Donnie_Darko21> is it removed?
[15:51] <tylertwo> Donnie_Darko21: It's not installed by default, I think. So you have to install it.
[15:52] <phunyguy> andreiiar: thanks, I am.  Do you have a support question?
[15:52] <Donnie_Darko21> but i had it i  was using it i use it 12.04
[15:52] <Donnie_Darko21> and i always installing the new releases
[15:52] <Donnie_Darko21> of java
[15:52] <andreiiar> I
[15:52] <andreiiar> I'll google it thx :|
[15:52] <tylertwo> Donnie_Darko21: apt-cache policy [package name] will check if it's installed
[15:53] <phunyguy> ok.
[15:53] <Donnie_Darko21> i always check if the addson are up to date now java dont appear on addson
[15:54] <Donnie_Darko21> totem and shockvawe flash are up to date but java dont appear now
[15:54] <tylertwo> Donnie_Darko21: Maybe you need to reinstall it?
[15:55] <phunyguy> Donnie_Darko21: please follow this guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java
[15:55] <Donnie_Darko21> i think i remmember that i installed the java 1.7.0.21 that was the last time
[15:56] <genii> For whoever was asking about how to find how much reserved space: sudo tune2fs -l /dev/sdX#  then multiply the values of "Reserved block count" and "Block size"
[15:56] <baphomet1> BluesKaj, is there something like paste.ubuntu.com for images?
[15:56] <phunyguy> baphomet1: imgur.com
[15:57] <BluesKaj> www.imagebin.org
[15:57] <phunyguy> that too
[15:57] <Donnie_Darko21> ok i m gonna try to install 1.7.0.40
[15:57] <phunyguy> Donnie_Darko21: with that guide, it may get you to the point where a step was possibly missed, etc.
[15:58] <tylertwo> Donnie_Darko21: sounds good
[15:58] <phunyguy> Donnie_Darko21: also there was a ppa, if I recall, that keeps java installed and updated for you
[15:58] <genii> Sander^work: See my above comment :)
[15:58] <Donnie_Darko21> i dont missed anything really always see if mine plugins are up to date and i always installing the latest dont know why not dont appear
[15:59] <phunyguy> Donnie_Darko21: if you decide to use the ppa however, do so at yoru own risk.
[15:59] <phunyguy> your*
[15:59] <baphomet1> BluesKaj, http://imagebin.org/272524 http://imagebin.org/272525 http://imagebin.org/272526
[15:59] <Donnie_Darko21> lol why ppa  tar package is better
[15:59] <Sander^work> genii, phunyguy: thanks:)
[15:59] <phunyguy> Donnie_Darko21: ppa's will work with system updates.
[15:59] <phunyguy> Donnie_Darko21: as new java packages are added to teh ppa, your system can get it with regular updates.
[16:00] <phunyguy> the*
[16:00] <Donnie_Darko21> hmm ok ok and with tar worked but dont know why dont appear now
[16:00] <genii> phunyguy: The webupd8 ppa basically just automates the process you would manually do to install the Oracle java..eg: downloads it, adjusts your update-alternatives, etc
[16:00] <Donnie_Darko21> on mozzila plugins
[16:00] <phunyguy> Donnie_Darko21: probably something having to do with sudo update-alternatives portion of that guide.
[16:01] <Donnie_Darko21> hmmm ok thanks  i will back if will have problem
[16:01] <phunyguy> Donnie_Darko21: and/or copying the plugin to the mozilla plugin folder
[16:02] <Donnie_Darko21> yes of course rm -v ~/.mozilla/plugins/libnpjp2.so
[16:02] <phunyguy> genii: indeed, it is my install method of choice.
[16:02] <phunyguy> genii: but !wfm, etc.  :)
[16:03] <baphomet1> BluesKaj, obviously I changed some things in those screenshots (usernames, etc), but those were the settings I was working with
[16:03] <BluesKaj> baphomet1, ok click on the ppp tab and enable the "choose these protocols " and enable all of the availble ones , also fill in the username and password fields
[16:03] <baphomet1> BluesKaj, yep.  where does the group name go?
[16:04] <baphomet1> BluesKaj, do I need to do anything in the Peer Authentication, IP Settings or Advanced areas?
[16:05] <BluesKaj> baphomet1, not sure  , I never needed to when I used ipsec
[16:06] <andreiiar> Do you guyise support blackbox?
[16:06] <BluesKaj> Ip settings only in the remote server , afaik , baphomet1
[16:06] <baphomet1> BluesKaj, ok.  any other suggestions?
[16:07] <baphomet1> BluesKaj, is having the 'length bit' box checked in the l2tp tab correct?
[16:07] <universal> which filesystem supports sign like vertical bar on a pen drive and how to convert a pen drive from one filesystem to another with data present in it ?
[16:07] <BluesKaj> nope that's it , but I've never used a cisco server, baphomet1
[16:07] <phunyguy> andreiiar: you can ask about it, but not sure how many will be able to help.
[16:07] <baphomet1> BluesKaj, it's not a cisco server :).  the server is an ubuntu box running openswan.
[16:08] <andreiiar> That was the only question about it I wanted to ask.
[16:08] <phunyguy> andreiiar: if blackbox has a support channel you might have better luck there.
[16:08] <baphomet1> BluesKaj, when I initially looked up how to connect to it with ubuntu I saw things recommending VPNC.  I had assumed it would connect
[16:08] <BluesKaj> baphomet1, not sure about the length bit , baphomet1
[16:08] <baphomet1> BluesKaj, ok.  I just unchecked it.  trying to connect now.
[16:10] <Xabster> my open windows are behaving so strange... if i drag windows then sometimes it selects another window to drag just... while i'm dragging... and sometimes it clicks buttons and stuff in other windows
[16:10] <baphomet1> BluesKaj, still error 500.  It sends a notification that says error 500 .... click here for details, but as you know, notifications in ubuntu are not clickable (goodness I wish they were).
[16:10] <Xabster> like, if i drag one window over another a it will do weird clicks inside that window and/or start dragging that instead
[16:10] <BluesKaj> baphomet1, do you have preshared key for the server, because ipsec requires it
[16:10] <baphomet1> BluesKaj, do you think this thing would store logs in /var/llog?
[16:11] <baphomet1> BluesKaj, yes to PSK.  I think this has to do with the group name thing?.  also gives error 300.
[16:11] <baphomet1> BluesKaj, found the log
[16:12] <baphomet1> BluesKaj,
[16:12] <baphomet1> BluesKaj, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6184475/
[16:12] <BluesKaj> baphomet1, there's log in the client
[16:12] <baphomet1> BluesKaj, yep, just found that haha
[16:13] <Xabster> any idea how to fix my issue with dragging windows with the mouse?
[16:13] <BluesKaj> baphomet1, does trhe server support openvpn , it might be easier
[16:14] <baphomet1> BluesKaj, yes and I have an openVPN tunnel setup, but the behavior is not what I want.  My IPSec tunnel does what I want it to do out of the box.
[16:14] <tor_> i have just bought a logitech k400r keyboard with integrated mouse pad. but even though i have set up norwegian keyboard layout in ubuntu the keyboard is english. is there som way i can fix so it will be all norwegian
[16:18] <tor_> any1
[16:18] <dekatrom> yeap
[16:19] <WeberEInc> Hello - Attempting to install Ubuntu Server 12.04 to a server that has a RocketRaid 222x raid controller.  The raid controller bios shows the RAID 5 array has been created, but the Ubuntu installer shows the drives as separate drives instead of as a single raid collection...  Any suggestions for the proper way to get this installed?
[16:19] <baphomet1> BluesKaj, any suggestions?
[16:19] <BluesKaj> baphomet1, perhaps the server is rejecting some of the PPP protocols , so try them one at a time
[16:20] <kenn> hello people
[16:20] <phunyguy> WeberEInc: check in /dev/mapper
[16:20] <baphomet1> BluesKaj, will do.  brb
[16:20] <phunyguy> WeberEInc: chances are it is software raid, but the real array will be in /dev/mapper in that case.
[16:20] <baphomet1> BluesKaj, I am going to check the windows client and see what it uses.
[16:20] <phunyguy> WeberEInc: not software raid, fakeraid, sorry
[16:20] <WeberEInc> phunyguy : I'm trying to install from a CD... there is no /dev/mapper yet...
[16:20] <BluesKaj> baphomet1, good idea
[16:21] <kenn> i want to make an offline version of tatoeba.org
[16:21] <phunyguy> WeberEInc: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FakeRaidHowto
[16:21] <ActionPa1snip> WeberEInc: if you boot to Ubuntu liveCD, do you see one drive?
[16:22] <kenn> it's a multilingual sentente search engine
[16:22] <ActionPa1snip> phunyguy: its hardware raid, so fake raid junk isnt needed
[16:22] <WeberEInc> phunyguy: But I don't want to run a software raid when I have a hardware controller!
[16:22] <WeberEInc> ActionPa1snip: The server version of Ubuntu doesn't boot live
[16:22] <ActionPa1snip> WeberEInc: try booting to live ubuntu desktop and formating it there (if it shows)
[16:22] <phunyguy> ActionPa1snip: is that specific adapter pure hardware?
[16:22] <ActionPa1snip> WeberEInc: yes but the desktop cd does
[16:23] <ActionPa1snip> phunyguy: yes
[16:23] <phunyguy> ActionPa1snip: ahh, noted, thanks
[16:23] <ActionPa1snip> phunyguy: it shoul present the array as one drive and handle the access in hardware
[16:23] <phunyguy> indeed.
[16:23] <phunyguy> thank you./
[16:23] <WeberEInc> ActionPa1snip: I didn't want to load up this box with all of the Desktop version stuff... Will I have to just to be able to get the Raid working?
[16:23] <kenn> could somebody help me with offline tatoeba.org?
[16:23] <ActionPa1snip> WeberEInc: its just to check the situation out. I never said to install the esktop install...did I?
[16:24] <ActionPa1snip> WeberEInc: check the situation etc, might be able to format the volume
[16:24] <WeberEInc> ActionPa1snip:  OK - so if I fire up a desktop live CD and it shows it as a single drive, then what?
[16:24] <ActionPa1snip> WeberEInc: then boot back to the server install to put the OS on the new partitions
[16:24] <phunyguy> ActionPa1snip: still doesn't sound right
[16:24] <ActionPa1snip> phunyguy: in what way?
[16:24] <kenn> http://lilyx.net/2011/07/21/extracting-multilingual-parallel-senteces-from-tatoeba-com/
[16:25] <zykotick9> WeberEInc: in addition, you might want to ask the folks in #ubuntu-server
[16:25] <phunyguy> ActionPa1snip: still sounds like the raid controller isn't doing what it is supposed to be doing
[16:25] <WeberEInc> ActionPa1snip: OK - so then gpartd to partition and format....  But what if when I boot live it shows it as 4 drives (the 3 in the array and the 1 spare)?
[16:25] <ActionPa1snip> phunyguy: its just not presenting right to the OS.
[16:25] <phunyguy> ActionPa1snip: that is fakeraid
[16:25] <phunyguy> :(
[16:25] <ActionPa1snip> WeberEInc: check the RAID config in the card too, be sure to write the settings to the config
[16:26] <ActionPa1snip> phunyguy: no, the access to whichever disk is handled by a piece of hardware rather than a fakeraid subsystem
[16:26] <kenn> a guy explain how to do that but i didn't understand how he merged csv files with Clojure
[16:26] <zykotick9> phunyguy: fakeraid is the crap you get built onto motherboards, the poster said they have a rocketraid card.
[16:26] <phunyguy> ActionPa1snip: then the hardware is setup incorrectly.  An ubuntu desktop CD will not remedy that
[16:26] <WeberEInc> ActionPa1snip:  The raid bios (even after reboot) shows that the RAID 5 definition (with 3 drives in the array and 1 spare) are there and ready to go...
[16:27] <baphomet1> BluesKaj, that was inconclusive.  The windows client doesn't say anything about which authentication protocol it uses.
[16:28] <tor_> i have a problem with wrong keyboard lay out. it is set to norwegian and the keyboard is norwegian. but when i type it is like english layout >& any1 able to help me
[16:28] <tor_> -
[16:28] <phunyguy> WeberEInc: when you set up the RAID5 on the adapter, did it go through a rebuild?
[16:28] <phunyguy> or a "build"?
[16:28] <WeberEInc> ActionPa1snip:  1 more question... if I boot with the desktop live CD and it shows individual drives instead of the raid array, any suggestions on how to get the Ubuntu installers to ask me for a vendor-supplied raid driver?
[16:28] <phunyguy> You should not need a vendor supplied driver for real raid.
[16:29] <phunyguy> a real raid array is completely transparent to the OS.
[16:29] <WeberEInc> phunyguy: the 'rebuild' or 'initialization' won't happen until there is data on the drive... which won't happen until there is an install, which I can't do until the installer recognizes the array as an array instead of individual disks.
[16:29] <phunyguy> WeberEInc: that isn't true at all
[16:29] <phunyguy> WeberEInc: unless it is fakeraid
[16:30] <WeberEInc> phunyguy: Rocketraid has driver(s) and management software for their cards..
[16:30] <phunyguy> in other words, the bios presents the drives to interact with a driver on the server
[16:30] <phunyguy> WeberEInc: that is fakeraid.
[16:31] <loa> hello, i created upstart job, it works well byt don't start at system boot
[16:31] <loa> what i can check?
[16:31] <loa> here it is http://pastebin.com/fBez4Rap
[16:31] <loa> i called it as mjpeg-streamer.conf and add to /etc/init/
[16:31] <loa> start and stop for it works well
[16:32] <phunyguy> !enter | loa
[16:32] <phunyguy> WeberEInc: maybe I used the incorrect term.  Either way, that is why I said check /dev/mapper, there should be an array in there, if the kernel is doing its job.
[16:33] <loa> phunyguy, sorry.
[16:33] <loa> it is hard to keep all in head.
[16:34] <BluesKaj> baphomet1, did you look in windows networking in the control panel?
[16:34] <baphomet1> BluesKaj, not yet.  hang on
[16:34] <phunyguy> WeberEInc: http://www.highpoint-tech.cn/BIOS_Driver/rr222x/Linux/Install_Ubuntu_RR222x.pdf
[16:34] <phunyguy> take a peek there, it has some preinstall steps.
[16:35] <loa> Hello, i created upstart job, it works well but don't start at system boot. What i can check? Here content of upstart job file http://pastebin.com/fBez4Rap. I called it as mjpeg-streamer.conf and add to "/etc/init/". Start and stop for it works well.
[16:39] <phunyguy> loa: you are missing what runlevels it starts on
[16:42] <baphomet1> BluesKaj, not seeing anything in the adapter (it doesn't create a new adapter) settings that would indicate what protocol it is using to communicate
[16:42] <SA44> I get this error even though I have plenty of free space : Désolé, le programme « udisks-daemon » a quitté de façon inattendue  Votre ordinateur ne possède pas suffisamment de mémoire libre pour analyser automatiquement le problème et envoyer un rapport aux développeurs.
[16:42] <phunyguy> SA44: care to translate?
[16:43] <SA44> google translate: Sorry, 'udisks-daemon "program quit unexpectedly Your computer does not have enough free memory to automatically analyze the problem and send a report to the developers.
[16:43] <andreiiar> My tty is frozen. What can I do? lubuntu 13.04
[16:43] <phunyguy> SA44: memory is not the same as disk space....
[16:43] <SA44> I have some 40 gigs free
[16:43] <phunyguy> (if you meant disk space)
[16:43] <SA44> oh so what to do?
[16:43] <loa> phunyguy, you are very helpfull thx.
[16:43] <phunyguy> SA44: do you have a swap partition?
[16:43] <phunyguy> loa: you're welcome
[16:44] <SA44> not sure :)
[16:44] <phunyguy> SA44: it sounds like you don't have enough free RAM to run the dumps, etc.
[16:44] <baphomet1> BluesKaj, looking for the conf file in /etc right now.  wondering if something needs to be changed (port number?)
[16:45] <SA44> but this computer is not old. i mean everything worked fine in my much older crappy comp
[16:45] <phunyguy> SA44: swapon -s
[16:45] <phunyguy> try that in a terminal
[16:45] <BluesKaj> baphomet1, check microsoft CHAP version 2 prortcol
[16:45] <phunyguy> I have to run for a bit, good luck, all.
[16:45] <baphomet1> BluesKaj, ok.  hang on.
[16:45] <BluesKaj> baphomet1, in th PPP tab inthe cleint
[16:46] <SA44> /dev/sda6                               partition	2094076	52096	-1
[16:46] <baphomet1> BluesKaj, perhaps it has something to do with this? Oct 02 09:44:19.149 Starting xl2tpd: xl2tpd.
[16:46] <baphomet1> BluesKaj, it is saying it is failing hwen ti does that
[16:46] <BluesKaj> baphomet1, no that's a std connection attempt
[16:46] <SA44> so that means i have a swap ?
[16:47] <baphomet1> BluesKaj, immediately after it says that it says "last command timed out"
[16:47] <BluesKaj> itr means the server isn't recognizing the PSK maybe , baphomet1
[16:47] <baphomet1> BluesKaj, hang on
[16:48] <baphomet1> BluesKaj, I just made another change.  let's see what happens.
[16:48] <phunyguy> back, SA44: yes.
[16:48] <phunyguy> that looks fine.
[16:48] <SA44> there was another (title) line above that, didnt write it cuz guessed youd know already. but here it is: Filename Type		Size	Used	Priority
[16:48] <phunyguy> SA44: how much RAM does your PC have?
[16:49] <SA44> is there a command to see that?
[16:49] <phunyguy> SA44: pastebin output from cat /proc/meminfo
[16:49] <phunyguy> please and thank you. :)
[16:49] <phunyguy> !pastebin
[16:50] <baphomet1> BluesKaj, so I am only getting error 500 now.  it says "starting xl2tpd" then takes a while then it says "last command timed out"
[16:50] <baphomet1> BluesKaj, key is right
[16:50] <baphomet1> BluesKaj, error 300 just popped up
[16:50] <loa> How i can setup my system in such way, that few programs can read my /dev/video0
[16:51] <loa> or maybe i can duplicate /dev/video0 and they will be equal webcam
[16:51] <phunyguy> loa: only one should be able to at a time, so motion shoudl take care of that for you, IIRC
[16:51] <SA44> here it is :) http://paste.ubuntu.com/6184659/
[16:51] <phunyguy> SA44: what version of Ubuntu?
[16:51] <loa> phunyguy, i setuped mjpg_streamer and motion read information from mjpg_treamer
[16:52] <loa> but i want skype too.
[16:52] <loa> but it can read only /dev/video0
[16:52] <SA44> Lubuntu 13.04 installed alongside windows
[16:52] <loa> oh i again write many stings =/
[16:52] <phunyguy> oh I misunderstood, sorry about that.  loa, I am unsure how to accomplish that.
[16:52] <BluesKaj> baphomet1, well I'm out of ideas ...i was using an easy freeserver for ipsec (VPNGate) so the parameters must be different , I have since swiched to a commercial vpn server that use it's own linux openvpn client
[16:52] <phunyguy> SA44: that looks OK as well.
[16:53] <phunyguy> SA44: I would say file a bug, but it looks like that part is what is failing.  You cannot file a bug about not being able to file a bug.
[16:53] <baphomet1> BluesKaj, thanks for trying though! :D  I am going to keep fiddling with this.
[16:53] <BluesKaj> ok baphomet1 , perseverence pays off , good luck :)
[16:53] <phunyguy> SA44: please go to Launchpad.com and file a bug manually.
[16:54] <phunyguy> SA44: what is the app that is crashing and triggering apport?
[16:54] <SA44> but is there no way to solve the problem now?
[16:54] <SA44> no app is crashing. when i login i get an error message telling me to file a bug and then i get that
[16:55] <phunyguy> SA44: pastebin the details of the error please.
[16:55] <SA44> no details, just that
[16:55] <phunyguy> SA44: when you first get the popup, there will be a details button
[16:56] <loa> phunyguy, look what i found http://v4l2vd.sourceforge.net/
[16:56] <phunyguy> loa, that is what is providing /dev/video0 if I recall.
[16:57] <SA44> maybe you're right. will try to catch those details next time it happens. thanks anyways
[16:57] <phunyguy> so you already have that
[16:57] <phunyguy> SA44: you're welcome.
[16:57] <phunyguy> SA44: when you get those details, you can uncheck the box to file a bug report
[16:57] <phunyguy> and it won't attempt./
[16:57] <SA44> ok
[16:57] <PaulePanter> Hi. I am on 12.04. I do not get ureadahead to work.
[16:57] <loa> phunyguy, no it is really virtual devices for v4l2
[16:58] <SA44> byebye :)
[16:58] <phunyguy> oh.
[16:58] <PaulePanter> $ sudo more /var/log/upstart/ureadahead.log
[16:58] <PaulePanter> Counted 8 CPUs
[16:58] <PaulePanter> ureadahead: Error while tracing: No such file or directory
[16:58] <phunyguy> loa: well good luck.
[16:58] <phunyguy> !paste | PaulePanter
[16:59] <PaulePanter> phunyguy: Thanks. I thought three lines is fine.
[16:59] <phunyguy> PaulePanter: it's pushing it. :)
[16:59] <phunyguy> PaulePanter: I think FloodBots will get you after 4.
[16:59] <PaulePanter> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6184681/
[17:00] <jthomas__> Running Ubuntu 13.04, it has mailutils installed.  I can start a message $mail -s 'test' user@domain.com'  but neither . by itdelf, nor [Ctrl][D], will end the message.  It just sits there.  What gives?  how cn i end this message?
[17:00] <PaulePanter> Could somebody please check if ureadahead gives the same errors under `/var/log/upstart/*`?
[17:00] <PaulePanter> jthomas__: Hit return twice I think.
[17:01] <jthomas__> nope, no go PaulePanter
[17:02] <phunyguy> PaulePanter:  I see some errors like that as well.
[17:02] <phunyguy> PaulePanter: however not recent.
[17:04] <PaulePanter> jthomas__: Reading the manual http://linux.about.com/od/commands/l/blcmdl1_Mail.htm , Ctrl + d should do the trick. But you say it does not. Not sure what is wrong. Sorry.
[17:04] <PaulePanter> phunyguy: Thanks.
[17:06] <phunyguy> I am off again.  Good luck.
[17:06] <jthomas__> yeah, exactly, ubuntu
[17:09] <SA44> phunyguy: still here?
[17:11] <SA44> phunyguy: you were right about the details. so it's package libmenu-cache2 0.4.1-0ubuntu1 that crashes
[17:12] <SA44> phunyguy: hope you receive the message. try to be back tomorrow
[17:13] <SA44> phunyguy: i mean i will try to be back tomorrow (i wasnt telling you to try, haha)
[17:13] <LucidGuy> is sambaSID the equivalent of linux uidNumber, and gidNumber/sambaPrimaryGroupSID
[17:13] <SA44> phunyguy: bye and thanks again for the help
[17:14] <bungeebones> I created a new partition on my HD and installed a second ubuntu 12.04 on the drive. What command line code can I use to copy folders and files from one partition to the other that also preserves the owner and group name? I mostly need to copy everyone's home folders over
[17:15] <Qessential> Buenas tardes.
[17:16] <Xabster> How do I revert back from properitary drivers?
[17:17] <Qessential> Hello there.
[17:17] <Xabster> i can see 4 options in software sources -> additional drivers, but i can't select anything other than the manually installed drivers
[17:17] <is_null> hi all, i have a new laptop, should i install 13.10 beta 2 or 13.04 ?
[17:17] <bungeebones> Xabster  System Settings Hardware - Additional Drivers
[17:18] <is_null> i've tried the lives and i don't see any difference really
[17:18] <Xabster> bungeebones: no such menu
[17:18] <bungeebones> I just repaired a bad install of video card drivers this morning that way
[17:18] <ed0n0n> hi there! I have a intel i5 laptop and cannot acomplish the dualboot installation on it. I get an Instal error: trying to overwrite '/etc/console_setup/compose.ISO-8859-13.inc' wich is also in package console_setup 1.88
[17:18] <Xabster> bungeebones: it's not there though... no "hardware" menu point nor any "additional drivers" menu
[17:19] <bungeebones> Xabster Which version, desktop you using?
[17:19] <Xabster> 13.04, default
[17:19] <Xabster> unity i guess it's called
[17:19] <Magyarok> Hello, can anyone here help me with ubuntu server?
[17:20] <Qessential> Im having several troubles auto mounting a HDD. After unsucesfull howtos i used the utility Disks from Ubuntu, This utiliti have an option to disable the on demand mounting and make it happen on every startup via fstab. By the way, if i try to use it even with the defaults params of the utility, Ubuntu is unable to start because it can not mount the partition, so i need to press S and un do...
[17:20] <Qessential> ...the job. Anyone can please bring me some light on this? Maybe another util, or howto? Its an GPT wxt2 3tb partition, only for data.
[17:20] <Qessential> ext2*
[17:20] <bungeebones> I'm in 12.04 My tool bar is accross the top and it has a icon looks like a gear. That's where I found mine
[17:20] <ed0n0n> I have tried with different Ubuntu versions 12.04 32 & 64, and last trys with 13.04-desktop 64bit
[17:21] <ed0n0n> I really need some help with the installation issue, because It's the first time that cannot get to install Ubuntu
[17:22] <Qessential> ed0n0n:  probably a bad disk, are you using a cd or a USB stick?
[17:22] <bungeebones> Qessential> Maybe download and try Gparted
[17:23] <Qessential> bungeebones: Thanks, that is util to format the drives, but not for automounting issues, as far as i know. Maybe im wrong?
[17:24] <bungeebones> Qessential> Yup, sorry my bad.
[17:24] <Qessential> at all, thanks anyway.
[17:24] <Magyarok> When im in ubuntu server, how do I exit out of a document??
[17:24] <Xabster> is the unity dash search thingy always so broken or did I break it? I search for "ati" and it finds "passwords and keys", "time and date" and under files and folders it gives me "desktop".........?!
[17:24] <ed0n0n> Qessential: using USB but chksum checked it and is OK
[17:24] <Xabster> and the software center when i search for radeon gives me 8 results, 0 that contains radeon
[17:24] <bungeebones> I created a new partition on my HD and installed a second ubuntu 12.04 on the drive. What command line code can I use to copy folders and files from one partition to the other that also preserves the owner and group name? I mostly need to copy everyone's home folders over
[17:25] <ed0n0n> Qessential: also used unetbootin to install the image on the USB stick
[17:25] <Magyarok> Can anyone help me?
[17:25] <Barnabas> bungeebones, you need to add the users from the old system to the new first
[17:26] <Qessential> ed0n0n: check the HDD then, if you encounter troubles installing files, its probably an issue with data corruption, that leads on RAM, HDD, or image issues, not the SO itself.
[17:26] <bwayne> Magyarok: what editor are you using?
[17:26] <Magyarok> I dont know.
 Did that
[17:26] <Barnabas> bungeebones, do a sudo vipw on the old system and appy to the new
[17:26] <Magyarok> I accidently types info
[17:26] <Barnabas> ok
[17:26] <bungeebones> Didn't create home folders
[17:26] <Magyarok> im in sed.info.gz
[17:26] <bwayne> Magyarok: try typing ':q'
[17:26] <Barnabas> bungeebones, no, you are about to copy those
[17:26] <Qessential> I'll suggest running some Chkdisk and memtest passes.
[17:26] <Magyarok> ok
[17:27] <Magyarok> thanks!
[17:27] <Barnabas> bungeebones, i assume you have the old "home" mounted when booted into the new system
[17:27] <Qessential> Im having several troubles auto mounting a HDD. After unsucesfull howtos i used the utility Disks from Ubuntu, This utility have an option to disable the on demand mounting and make it happen on every startup via fstab. By the way, if i try to use it even with the defaults params of the utility, Ubuntu is unable to start because it can not mount the partition, so i need to press S and un do...
[17:27] <Qessential> ...the job. Anyone can please bring me some light on this? Maybe another util, or howto? Its an GPT ext2 3tb partition, only for data.
[17:27] <bwayne> Magyarok: you're welcome. i had a suspicion you had landed in vi. :)
[17:28] <ed0n0n> Qessential: So should I remake the partiotions? Formated them before each install and same error happening. How can I check that it is a HDD faikure?
[17:28] <Barnabas> bungeebones, on the NEW system sudo cp -R /path/to/old/home /home (on the new server
[17:28] <Magyarok> bwayne, one more question. Is it possible to run a ubuntu server on wifi?
  Is that what I have to do - mount the old home folder and then do a cp?
[17:29] <Barnabas> bungeebones, thats what I would do
[17:29] <Barnabas> bungeebones, then the users should have the same home dirs
[17:29] <bwayne> Magyarok: yes. I shelled into my home ssh server, which is accessed via wifi.
[17:29] <bwayne> Magyarok: I *am
[17:29] <Qessential> ed0n0n: There are several ISO distros that comes with diagnosis tools, burn them into a CD at 1x, or use the same usb stick, then use the utils inside the distro to check for HDD and RAM errors. Remember, it can also be the USB Stick failing.
[17:29] <bungeebones> k, I'm a noob about mounting. It is one of the sb? in the dev folder right?
[17:30] <Qessential> ed0n0n:  common path is: Change USB Stick for other, Change USB port, check RAM, check HDD.
[17:30] <ed0n0n> Qessential: thank you I'll check that out! :) Will tell you about the result here
[17:30] <quantumpants> I cant get my dvd's to play on my wifes laptop, any ideas??
[17:30] <Qessential> Good luck ed0n0n
[17:31] <Qessential> Hope its only a bad usb stick :P
[17:31] <ed0n0n> Qessential: thanks again
 I used webmin and exported all the users and passwords, then created the asame ones on the new partition minus the home folders.
[17:34] <JC_SoCal> I'm running 12.04. Is there a apt-get PHP package for 5.5.4? How do I find it if there is?
[17:43] <Reacto> How do I get twofinger sidescrolling working?
[17:44] <andrew_> hi
[17:44] <Reacto> nvm
[17:45] <andrew_> guys, can you help me?
[17:45] <andrew_> the question not about ubuntu
[17:46] <kongthap> anyone here please help me with this question: http://askubuntu.com/questions/352409/please-help-to-fix-error-while-mounting-static
[17:51] <C1V0_> bump
[17:52] <quantumpants> anybody about?
[17:52] <Wiz_KeeD> best tutorial for php apache mysql on ubuntu 12.04?
[17:52] <gordonjcp> !anyone | quantumpants
[17:52] <Fuzzles> steam wont launch games need help
[17:52] <tmmunq> !steam
[17:53] <Wiz_KeeD> !lamp
[17:54] <jshriver> greetings
[17:54] <jshriver> anyone know how to fix this:
[17:54] <quantumpants> I am have trouble getting my laptop to play a dvd, any ideas?
[17:54] <jshriver> for i in `find /media/ | grep MP3`; do echo $i; done
[17:54] <jshriver> but if the filename or path has a space it shoves it into multiple $i entries
[17:54] <jshriver> quantum: try vlc
[17:55] <jshriver> videolan.org  or try the package management in your system
[17:55] <jshriver> apt-get install vlc
[17:56] <quantumpants> does anybody know why i cant play a dvd on my puter?
[17:57] <quantumpants> jshriver, not even that works
[17:57] <trism> jshriver: find /media -name '*.MP3' -print
[17:57] <Pici> !dvd | quantumpants have you read this?
[17:58] <jshriver> trism: ty let em try
[17:59] <jshriver> quantum: apt-get install libdvdread4 libdvd0
[17:59] <jshriver> there are legal issues with DVD so try this after installing the above
[17:59] <quantumpants> thanks guys
[17:59] <trism> jshriver: if you want to do something for each path, use -exec instead: find /media -name '*.MP3' -exec echo '{}' \;
[17:59] <jshriver> ty
[18:00] <jshriver> quantum:  cd /usr/share/doc/libdvdread4
[18:00] <jshriver> quantum: ./install-css.sh
[18:01] <jshriver> damn
[18:01] <jshriver> for i in `find /media -name '*.MP3';`; do echo $i; done  still seems to seperate it
[18:01] <jshriver> basically trying this:
[18:01] <jshriver> for i in `find /media -name '*.MP3';`; do echo $i && cp $i /home/backup/; done
[18:01] <trism> jshriver: don't use the for
[18:02] <trism> jshriver: use find and -exec
[18:02] <jshriver> hrm how do you reference the entry with exec?
[18:03] <jshriver> find /media -name '*.MP3' -exec cp ? /home/backup
[18:03] <blob4000> hello, what' the best way to open port 3000 on an ubuntu server, for hosting a web server
[18:03] <jshriver> not sure what to use for ?
[18:03] <trism> jshriver: find /media -name '*.MP3' -exec cp -v '{}' /home/backup/ \;
[18:03] <trism> jshriver: the {} is replaced by the path
[18:04] <Pici> blob4000: Just start an application that will listen on port 3000. Nothing is blocked by default.
[18:04] <jshriver> tyvm
[18:05] <jshriver> find /media -name '*.MP3' -exec cp '{}' /home/backup/  "Missing -exec argument"
[18:05] <trism> jshriver: the \; at the end is important
[18:05] <blob4000> thanks Pici. i'm running on port 3000. any hints on how to debug where the incoming request to that port is being blocked?
[18:05] <trism> jshriver: it terminates the -exec expression
[18:05] <blob4000> if for example, something like the firewall is rejecting it
[18:05] <jshriver> ty sir that worked :)
[18:05] <jshriver> have a good day everytone and good luck quantum
[18:05] <trism> jshriver: you can also use + and in that case it will only exec once with all the paths found
[18:06] <Pici> blob4000: Can you connect from the computer that is serving it? like a simple telnet localhost 3000  ?
[18:06] <blob4000> yes
[18:07] <blob4000> i can do curl 0.0.0.0:3000
[18:07] <blob4000> and it returns properly
[18:07] <Pici> blob4000: And where are you trying to connect from? Another computer on the same network? or from somewhere else over the internet?
[18:07] <blob4000> the ubuntu server is on a linode box
[18:07] <blob4000> i'm also running ubuntu here
[18:08] <Pici> blob4000: Hm.  linode's default config shouldn't be blocking anything.  I'm irssing from my linode here.
[18:08] <Magyarok> Hello, is anyone here knowledgeable in dual booting ubuntu server and windows 7?
[18:08] <blob4000> Pici, what's weird is that it was working the other day
[18:08] <blob4000> i wonder if setting up fail2ban might have something to do with it?
[18:08] <blob4000> but i've tried stopping fail2ban and the problem persists
[18:09] <loa> Magyarok, it is as simple as clap, if you have two arms.
[18:09] <Pici> blob4000: it could... Check /var/log/fail2ban.log ? maybe there was a rule setup that was never removed.
[18:09] <blob4000> i'll check, thanks :)
[18:09] <Magyarok> Ioa, how do I start?
[18:10] <daftykins> Magyarok: a desktop and a server OS - that's an odd match! :)
[18:11] <FreebsdX> #ubuntu-tu
[18:11] <FreebsdX> #ubuntu-ru
[18:11] <Magyarok> daflykins, Dont have an option. :/
[18:13] <bogren> Hi, Im having some trouble with dual booting windows 8 and ubuntu anyone with some knowledge about this? Issue is ubuntu wont boot from GRUB (black screen)
[18:13] <wilee-nilee> bogren, Have you tried nomodeset from the grub menu?
[18:13] <daftykins> Magyarok: use the tab key when typing nicknames so that you get highlights correct
[18:14] <blob4000> Pici: nothing in the fail2ban log.
[18:14] <daftykins> Magyarok: what do you mean you have no option? it should install easy.
[18:14] <wilee-nilee> !nomodeset | bogren
[18:14] <blob4000> Pici, running netstat -ltn yields: tcp        0      0 0.0.0.0:3000            0.0.0.0:*               LISTEN
[18:14] <quantumpants> Pici, Ubottu, jshriver  as usual you guys have sorted it! thanks :)
[18:15] <bogren> wilee-nilee yes
[18:15] <dANIAL31> can anyone direct me to Pear Linux channel/network?  Thanks
[18:15] <Magyarok> daflykins , I just dont want to mess it up. I tried once before, and I couldnt get either one to boot
[18:16] <dANIAL31> i posted here because im told its ubuntu/debian based
[18:16] <Pici> blob4000: check the output of sudo iptables -L
[18:16] <RELOL> is there any way to run Linux on  Intel’s Atom processors?
[18:16] <DJones> !alis | dANIAL31 Either the alis bot may be able to find a channel, if not, probably their website should give any info on support
[18:16] <wilee-nilee> bogren, I believe there is a graphic choice in the recovery boot from grub, have you looked there?
[18:17] <blob4000> thanks Pici, i don't see anything suspicious there. can i send you a private message with the output of iptables -L?
[18:17] <sleepycat> I am deploying a app (rails) will need some env vars set and will be behind nginx and will rely on a cron job as well. There is an nginx user created, am I correct in thinking I need to add the env vars to the nginx users .bashrc and run the cron job as that user as well?
[18:17] <RELOL> Z2760 for example?
[18:17] <Pici> blob4000: sure
[18:17] <blfrkt> Shutdown does not power off computer     on ubuntu 12.04
[18:17] <bogren> @wilee-nilee @ubottu I have a thread on ask ubuntu. But It has lost the traffic so I thought I'd try here....http://askubuntu.com/questions/352405/dual-boot-windows-8-and-ubuntu-12-04-irst-ubuntu-not-booting-black-screen
[18:17] <blob4000> Pici: sent
[18:17] <unicorn-lightnin> Hello.. I've been trying to get AMD drivers installed for about two days with no luck. I have ATI/Intel hybrid graphics and was told I need to se the driver from AMD's website. After installing it, Unity boots, but it is completely invisible. I can click on where the icons would be, and the applications open up fine, so I know that Unity is running. If I try to run glxgears, I get extreme lag. If try to run fglrxinfo, I get
[18:17] <unicorn-lightnin> this error: "Setting of real/effective user Id to 0/0 failed"
[18:18] <Ari-Yang> unicorn-lightnin, fglrx has terrible 2d acceleration.... you'd use it if you're a gamer I guess....
[18:18] <Connor> hey everyone.. I had upgraded from 10.04 lts to 12.04 lts and I get this when I use apt-get on updating or installing.. dpkg: warning: parsing file '/var/lib/dpkg/status' near line 5078 package 'adoptionkiosk.6917d3f9e3b5e8ac9d09bd937cbcc17976766a9a.1':  error in Version string 'v1.04': version number does not start with digit
[18:18] <Ari-Yang> but open source radeon driver is better than fglrx in many ways, unicorn-lightnin
[18:18] <Connor> anyone know what that is? I've searched and can't find anything definitive..
[18:19] <unicorn-lightnin> I've been able to remedy that error temporarily by running "sudo chmod -R 777 /proc/ati/" but this only works until I reboot, and it doesn't fix the invisible desktop problem.
[18:19] <unicorn-lightnin> Ari-Yang, thanks but i've been told that 1000 times. I really just want to get the fglrx drivers working so that I can play games.
[18:20] <wilee-nilee> bogren, Cool, you can tab complete nicks here. I would make a thread at the ubuntu forums as well, I don't do pm's.
[18:20] <blfrkt> Shutdown does not power off computer    ubuntu 12.04
[18:20] <wilee-nilee> bogren, That is beyond my knowledge area is all.
[18:21] <bogren> wilee-nilee ok thanks anyway!
[18:21] <Ari-Yang> unicorn-lightnin, ah I see.... tbh I dunno what the problem is, good luck. also you could ask for help in #ati in case somebody here doesn't know how to fix it...
[18:21] <unicorn-lightnin> ah, good idea. thanks
[18:21] <ccbn> I have Ubuntu 12.04 running on a Sunfire X2100. It has a 2-port NIC, lspci info here: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6185022/    My problem is that only one of the ports on the NIC is usable, eth0, which is actually labelled as the second port on the NIC. I've tried compiling and installing the new tg3 drivers with no luck.
[18:21] <quantumpants> blfrkt, i have the same trouble
[18:22] <wilee-nilee> bogren, GThere is a mod at the UF who focuses on uefi dualboots they will stop by your thread there, make sure you have relevant info in the header is all.
[18:22] <blob4000> thanks Pici
[18:23] <sleepycat> I am deploying a app (rails) will need some env vars set and will be behind nginx and will rely on a cron job as well. There is an nginx user created, am I correct in thinking I need to add the env vars to the nginx users .bashrc and run the cron job as that user as well?
[18:23] <quantumpants> Pici, any  way i can get my laptop to tottally shut down when i ask it to?
[18:23] <daftykins> sleepycat: i'd bet an nginx channel would be better
[18:24] <Pici> blob4000: does the ip listed in the fail2ban-ssh chain look familiar?
[18:26] <bogren> wilee-nilee ok I'll try it! anyway to disable the notifications in here? gets a bit messy to follow...
[18:26] <Zelgod> quick question,  i can use "./command" but not "command" on its own any ideas?
[18:26] <blob4000> Pici that IP is some bot trying to get in via ssh- i've been noticing them trying to get in. going to increase the penalty for failed attempts
[18:27] <sleepycat> daftykins: Its more a linux question... I think I am just confused about setting up users for server processes.
[18:27] <wilee-nilee> bogren, Do you mean the join/part?
[18:27] <Pici> blob4000: hrm.... Can you make other connections from your computer to that server? like ssh?
[18:27] <sleepycat> daftykins: Its not nginx-specific confusion. :)
[18:28] <daftykins> sleepycat: ah. typically running servers as separate users is a good security call yeah. i've no experience with ruby or nginx though
[18:29] <sleepycat> daftykins: so if I have a user that is going to run the server I need to set up environmental vars in that users .bashrc?
[18:29] <bogren> anyone know how to disable green/blue notifications? very hard to follow conversations....
[18:30] <daftykins> sleepycat: yeah that'd make sense, if it's executing as that user yep. just try it and see! no harm will come :)
[18:30] <Sivik> what is the kacpid kernel process?
[18:30] <AABB33> how to know which is my keyboard layout? is there a way to detect it?
[18:30] <laura__> f
[18:30] <laura__> f
[18:30] <laura__> f
[18:30] <FloodBot1> laura__: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:31] <AABB33> current layout is not correct
[18:31] <AABB33> have to go in 2 mins, quick help would be very appreciated
[18:31] <JonReagan> AABB33 are you currently in the process of installing Ubuntu?
[18:31] <AABB33> no
[18:32] <AABB33> i just neeed to know which is my layout, then i know how to do the rest
[18:32] <JonReagan> you can find it by going to your settings (on the dash on a typical install)
[18:32] <sleepycat> daftykins: generally you put web apps somewhere in /var and make the folder accessible to the group the server user is in. Does that sound about right?
[18:33] <Sivik> AABB33: setxkbmap
[18:33] <Sivik> Try that command
[18:33] <Sivik> AABB33: setxkbmap -query | grep layout
[18:33] <Sivik> that should help too
[18:33] <daftykins> sleepycat: i really haven't used webapps i'm afraid
[18:34] <AABB33> ok thanks all
[18:34] <sleepycat> daftykins: OK. Thanks for the help.
[18:34] <daftykins> np!
[18:34] <Sivik> yw AABB33
[18:36] <hramrach> hello
[18:36] <dtcrshr> is something wrong with the webupd8team repo? I need to install java
[18:36] <hramrach> how do I create resolv.conf?
[18:36] <dtcrshr> and its off for days
[18:36] <viper1988> Anyone has an answer to this?.. facing this issue since ages without a possible solution, mainly coz there's no way to enable bluetooth via bios in my ASUS K53S
[18:37] <viper1988> http://askubuntu.com/questions/336397/bluetooth-adapter-not-found-asus-x43u
[18:37] <hramrach> dtcrshr: there is special java repo too
[18:37] <wilee-nilee> dtcrshr, The ppa?
[18:37] <dtcrshr> hramrach: sudo vi /etc/resolv.conf
[18:37] <blob4000> Pici: i think i found the issue, iptables is denying my IP
[18:37] <hramrach> dtcrshr: but when I connect to a different network it will be wrong again
[18:37] <dtcrshr> set up nameserver 8.8.8.8 and you should be good to go
[18:37] <blob4000> really any IP trying to connect to port 3000
[18:37] <dtcrshr> hramrach: hm I dont use network manager
[18:37] <blob4000> can i send you the log message from /var/log/syslog ?
[18:37] <dtcrshr> hramrach: do you know the java repo?
[18:38] <hramrach> dtcrshr: actually it's the webupd8 one
[18:38] <dtcrshr> so, is it off?
[18:38] <hramrach> but had no problem with it while I had a resolv.conf
[18:39] <xro> Hi, i try to do an AP with the aircrack suite... I do
[18:39] <xro> sudo airmon-ng start wlan0
[18:39] <xro> sudo airmon-ng check kill
[18:39] <xro> sudo airbase-ng mon0 -a AA:AA:AA:AA:AA:AA -e test mon0 -v
[18:39] <xro> I never see my SSID, why?
[18:39] <FloodBot1> xro: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:39] <hramrach> http://ppa.launchpad.net/webupd8team/java/ubuntu saucy main
[18:39] <wilee-nilee> dtcrshr, worked two days ago I doubt there is any problem. http://www.webupd8.org/2012/01/install-oracle-java-jdk-7-in-ubuntu-via.html
[18:39] <dtcrshr> xro:  try #aircrack-ng
[18:40] <hramrach> dtcrshr: do I use network manager?
[18:40] <hramrach> how do I tell?
[18:41] <hramrach> how is resolv.conf supposed to be created? it just works in Debian and any other distro I can recall
[18:41] <Pici> blob4000: sure
[18:41] <hramrach> but in Ubuntu I have no resolv.conf
[18:41] <blob4000> Pici: fixed it!
[18:42] <Pici> blob4000: yay!
[18:42] <blob4000> it was in my iptables
[18:42] <Pici> blob4000: I didn't see it there before... but maybe  I missed it?
[18:42] <blob4000> i think fail2ban added something to iptables?
[18:42] <daftykins> that's how it works
[18:42] <daftykins> lol.
[18:42] <blob4000> lol
[18:42] <blob4000> well there you have it, i'll take a deeper look at fail2ban before reinstalling it
[18:43] <Pici> blob4000: weird.
[18:43] <blob4000> thanks again
[18:43] <daftykins> hramrach: there's pretty much always an /etc/resolv.conf - are you sure?
[18:43] <hramrach> yes, I have no damn resolv.conf
[18:43] <hramrach> there is an empty space the shape of resolv.conf. I checked
[18:44] <Pici> !resolvconf
[18:44] <Pici> hramrach: Take a look at the links above, they might shed some light on your situation
[18:44] <hramrach> Pici: thanks
[18:46] <fellayaboy> is it possible to setup a Portable SSH Server.  that no matter where i connect it to...no matter which router its under i can connec to
[18:46] <YokoBR> hey guys, anybody using hybrid amd graphics (muxless)?
[18:46] <hramrach> Pici: ok, so I made the symlink. Now I have totally bogus resolv.conf
[18:47] <zackiv31> anyone know how to save a csv from Gnumeric ?
[18:47] <unicorn-lightnin> Hello.. I've been trying to get AMD drivers installed for about two days with no luck. I have ATI/Intel hybrid graphics and was told I need to se the driver from AMD's website. After installing it, Unity boots, but it is completely invisible. I can click on where the icons would be, and the applications open up fine, so I know that Unity is running. If I try to run glxgears, I get extreme lag. If try to run fglrxinfo, I get
[18:47] <unicorn-lightnin> this error: "Setting of real/effective user Id to 0/0 failed"
[18:48] <unicorn-lightnin> I've been able to remedy that error temporarily by running "sudo chmod -R 777 /proc/ati/" but this only works until I reboot, and it doesn't fix the invisible desktop problem.
[18:48] <Ashva> Hi, I want to log all commands that a ssh user run on my server, Can someone guide me on this?
[18:49] <hramrach> unicorn-lightnin: there is some hybris support in latest X11/kernel with the radeon driver
[18:49] <hramrach> it's very experimental
[18:50] <hramrach> I would not hope for hybris support from AMD. It would actually have to work with the Intel driver which is not going to happen until the driver grows a stable interface - never
[18:51] <matubaum> Hello, I'm having troubles. Every time I need to install something  (for example postgresql)  I get: a list of tasks like this.  How can i do to thebug and fix this?   Using ubuntu 12
[18:52] <hramrach> now I would not hope for much support for anything from radeon driver either since it insists on using hte proprietary and broken AtomBIOS blob by AMD instead of doing proper modesetting
[18:52] <unicorn-lightnin> hmmm
[18:52] <hramrach> to sum up when you get an AND graphics card and are running Linux you are screwed
[18:53] <unicorn-lightnin> so you are saying I need to update the kernel? Or use the open source drivers?
[18:53] <unicorn-lightnin> the Open Source drivers won't let me game, so they are not really a viable option for me..
[18:53] <hramrach> unicorn-lightnin: I think you have some chance for it to work with opensource drivers in like a year
[18:54] <hramrach> if you don't insist on using both cards radeon only is probably good enough for gaming .. unless the actual screen connections are routed through the Intel card
[18:55] <hramrach> as for opensource drivers and gaming - some games do work but there is definitely much room for improvement
[18:56] <unicorn-lightnin> hramrach, how would I set that up? every time I tried to install only the ATI drivers, it seemed to break my computer with a boot to black screen. When I followed a guide for installing hybrid graphics, I at least had slightly better results.
[18:56] <hramrach> I guess either you need newer drivers or your display is indeed connected to the Intel card
[18:57] <unicorn-lightnin> that laptop isn't that new. about 1.5 ears old..
[18:57] <unicorn-lightnin> year*
[18:58] <hramrach> unicorn-lightnin: does the graphics work with Intel driver only?
[18:58] <unicorn-lightnin> n the open source driver?
[18:58] <unicorn-lightnin> sorry, do you mean the open source driver?*
[18:59] <unicorn-lightnin> or is there some proprietary intel driver to install
[18:59] <hramrach> there is opensource Intel and radeon driver, and then there is that AMD blob
[18:59] <matubaum> Please I need help!, I'm having troubles. Every time I need to install something  (for example postgresql)  I get: a list of tasks like this.  How can i do to thebug and fix this?   Using ubuntu 12
[18:59] <hramrach> the AMD blob replaces radeon
[18:59] <matubaum> http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=DGwcR3mS
[19:00] <matubaum> Maybe I have packages installed from different versions of ubuntu, Can i check that some how?
[19:00] <unicorn-lightnin> it does work on the open source driver.. just no gaming performance.
[19:00] <hramrach> and when you use opensource driver is it the Intel driver or teh Radeon one?
[19:01] <slowe> Quick question on installing Ubuntu over the network: when I use a preseed file that specifies an internal HTTP repository for installation, it changes the /etc/apt/sources.list to use only that repository. Is there a workaround? (other than replacing the file after installation)
[19:02] <unicorn-lightnin> hramrach, im not sure, how would i know?
[19:02] <rafs> hi guys, i am having a problem with the bar controls in rhythmbox, look: http://img.ctrlv.in/img/524c6d2265a2d.png, what do i?
[19:03] <hramrach> when you boot without the AMD driver you get X log in /var/log/Xorg.0.log or somesuch which tells you which driver is used
[19:04] <matubaum> Where can i check if Have external repos  installed on my system?
[19:05] <genii> matubaum: If there's anything in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/   then those are PPA
[19:07] <slowe> Quick question: is it normal/expected for a local network install via HTTP to change /etc/apt/sources.list to show only the internal HTTP server?
[19:08] <matubaum> genii: Thanks I have a lot of them, everyone finish with "precise". I want to fix this http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=DGwcR3mS..... Could I delete them all and run "apt-get install -f" to solve the problem?
[19:09] <rafs> hi guys, i am having a problem with the bar controls in rhythmbox, look: http://img.ctrlv.in/img/524c6d2265a2d.png, what do i?
[19:09] <unicorn-lightnin> hramrach, here is my log: http://pastebin.com/KkLTwvmN
[19:09] <hramrach> dtcrshr: so I got a resolv.conf and now the webupd8 repo seems to work ok
[19:09] <unicorn-lightnin> I don't really want to go back to the open source driver right now because it feels like I'm so close
[19:10] <unicorn-lightnin> did you see where I said that sudo chmod -777 /proc/ati makes everything work perfectly?
[19:10] <unicorn-lightnin> it works great until I reboot.
[19:10] <hramrach> perfectly except nothing is visible?
[19:10] <genii> !ppa-purge
[19:10] <unicorn-lightnin> I just need someway to make that change permanent.
[19:11] <hramrach> or perfectly as in it actually works
[19:11] <unicorn-lightnin> well, hramrach, GLXGears works great, and I can open games from terminal
[19:11] <genii> matubaum: Please see the bot's link for ppa purging. Apologies on lag, work requiring me a lot today.
[19:11] <matubaum> genii: I'm on it
[19:11] <unicorn-lightnin> maybe I should try restarting Unity after running that command.
[19:12] <hramrach> unicorn-lightnin: try adding the chmod command to /etc/rc.local
[19:13] <matubaum> genii: thanks a lot I'm going to try it
[19:14] <unicorn-lightnin> so I would do that with sudo gedit  /etc/rc.local, right?
[19:14] <unicorn-lightnin> I don't want to mess up any permissions is why I'm asking
[19:14] <hramrach> yes, that should work
[19:15] <hramrach> you can look what the permissions are afterwards
[19:15] <unicorn-lightnin> and that goes before exit 0, right?
[19:15] <hramrach> yes, before that line
[19:15] <unicorn-lightnin> and do I include the "sudo" in "sudo chmod -R 777 /proc/ati/ ?"
[19:16] <hramrach> no, it already runs as root
[19:16] <unicorn-lightnin> k
[19:16] <hramrach> so no need for sudo
[19:16] <unicorn-lightnin> ok, let me reboot
[19:16] <unicorn-lightnin> thanks hramrach
[19:16] <unicorn-lightnin> brb
[19:19] <unicorn-lightnin> IT WORKED!!! OMFG I LOVE YOU HRAMRACH
[19:19] <unicorn-lightnin> YES
[19:19] <unicorn-lightnin> FOUR DAYS OF NON STOP WORKING ON THIS YES YES YES YES
[19:19] <IdleOne> !caps
[19:19] <unicorn-lightnin> :p
[19:19] <unicorn-lightnin> the level of excitement called for it.
[19:20] <hramrach> now you can have lots of days nonstop gaming .. unless the driver crashes too much :p
[19:20] <rafs> normal
[19:20] <slowe> Quick question: is it normal/expected for a local network install via HTTP to change /etc/apt/sources.list to show only the internal HTTP server?
[19:20] <tmmunq> floodbot needs to make friends with a capsbot...
[19:25] <dtcrshr> well, any clues on updating java?
[19:26] <wilee-nilee> dtcrshr, contact the ppa if you are sure this is not user error.
[19:26] <dtcrshr> well, not much info about the ppa contatcs, ill google
[19:27] <Patrice> Hi everybody. I would like to transform my old laptop in a opensim server. What operating system is the best? Ubuntu server or Linux server? (i don't care about to have or not any graphic interface).
[19:27] <LOL> Hi
[19:27] <wilee-nilee> Patrice, This is ubuntu support.
[19:27] <hramrach> dtcrshr: what exactly does not work? the package list for therepo appears to update fine
[19:28] <Patrice> wilee-nilee yes, i know, thank you, but if i ask the same question on linux irc they'll tell me the same. Excuse my question
[19:28] <Guest545> any news abour Bay Trail-T SoC and its support on linux?
[19:29] <wilee-nilee> Patrice, Do like the rest of us, try what seems adequate till your happy.
[19:29] <auronandace> Patrice: you realise that a ubuntu server is a linux server right?
[19:29] <Patrice> yes but there is diferent versions
[19:30] <Patrice> with different libraries, i guess.
[19:30] <dtcrshr> is there any reverse command to "add-apt-repository"
[19:30] <dtcrshr> to purge one aded ppa
[19:30] <Patrice> i 'm downoloading 2 completely different version of linux server. Ubuntu one and Linux one.
[19:30] <Pici> !ppapurge | dtcrshr
[19:30] <wilee-nilee> !ppa purge
[19:30] <dtcrshr> thanks pici and wilee-nilee
[19:31] <Patrice> i just wanted to know wich one was the most adapted to what i want to do.
[19:31] <dtcrshr> well, not on my repos
[19:32] <loa> how i can easy record my desktop?
[19:32] <auronandace> Patrice: if whatever software you require is in the ubuntu repos than the ubuntu server will be a good fit for you
[19:32] <loa> easy and in cool format ^^^
[19:32] <Pici> dtcrshr: really? Are you on lucid? It was only pushed to backports there.
[19:32] <loa> and less cpu hungry as possible)
[19:33] <Patrice> but what makes Ubuntu more adapted than SUSE or any other?
[19:33] <Corey> Hmm, tharkun is on the road today. We should hilight him in more channels.
[19:34] <dtcrshr> well, I removed the lines by hand and added the webupd8 ppa again and worked
[19:35] <Patrice> I'm runing opensim under Xubuntu wiith mono. I install it copying the folfer in /opt/
[19:36] <Patrice> will i be able to do that under linux basic server? without any graphic interface?
[19:36] <auronandace> Patrice: of course
[19:37] <Calinou> Guest545: http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTQ2MDI
[19:37] <Calinou> can help
[19:37] <Calinou> more: http://www.google.com/custom?domains=www.phoronix.com&q=bay+trail&sa=Search&sitesearch=www.phoronix.com&client=pub-0253814508491313&forid=1&channel=7336209522&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&flav=0000&sig=jw6jQQQQaVBZd27M&cof=GALT%3A%232b6b29%3BGL%3A1%3BDIV%3A%23FFFFFF%3BVLC%3A2b6b29%3BAH%3Acenter%3BBGC%3AFFFFFF%3BLBGC%3A000000%3BALC%3A2b6b29%3BLC%3A2b6b29%3BT%3A000000%3BGFNT%3A3e3e3e%3BGIMP%3A3e3e3e%3BLH%3A50%3BLW%3A292%3BL%3Ahttp%3A%2F%2Fwww.phoronix.com
[19:37] <Calinou> %2Fphxcms-css%2Fgoogle_search.jpg%3BS%3Ahttp%3A%2F%2F%3BFORID%3A1&hl=en
[19:37]  * Calinou facehoof
[19:37] <FloodBot1> Calinou: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:41] <YokoBR> guys, please, i can't mount my usb hard drive http://pastebin.com/dwknJqJc
[19:43] <Guest73579> Hi, guys, I have a problem. I did the instructions to enable the subwoofer on my HP Envy m6, and it worked as it should. I went into alsamixer to see if i could hear the subwoofer only. I turned down the Speaker channel so I could only hear the sub. That worked, but when I tried to turn the main speakers up again, they wouldn't turn up.
[19:44] <hramrach> YokoBR: try a different port or something
[19:44] <Guest73579> The headphone jack won't work either.
[19:44] <hramrach> either the drive is broken or the cable is bad or the port is
[19:44] <genii> YokoBR: Is your USB controller USB2 or something different?
[19:44] <Guest73579> It worked before the fix.
[19:46] <genii> hramrach: Might also be they are using ehci (usb2) driver when their port is usb1 or usb3
[19:46] <Guest545> Calinou, Thanks.
[19:46] <YokoBR> hramrach, tried every single port. genii, usb2.
[19:47] <hramrach> YokoBR: is it a rotating drive?
[19:47] <delinquentme> what kind of hurt would I be looking at if I uninstalled and reinstalled python through the package manager
[19:47] <YokoBR> hramrach, yep. It's not a sdd driver.
[19:47] <YokoBR> drive*
[19:48] <hramrach> YokoBR: maybe try a powered hub or an Y cable that allows drawoing power from multiple ports
[19:48] <Calinou> it's SSD, also "SSD Drive" is repeating
[19:48] <Calinou> Solid State Drive Drive...
[19:53] <khudoyor> привет всем
[19:54] <stingsay`> hello i have problem installing mysql i am getting an error : invoke-rc.d: initscript mysql, action "start" failed.
[19:54] <stingsay`> hello i have problem installing mysql i am getting an error : invoke-rc.d: initscript mysql, action "start" failed.
[19:54] <ikonia> stingsay`: you said that
[19:58] <Susning> Hi. I'm using Elementary OS which is based on Ubuntu 12.04... I want to use the  nouveau-drivers to narrow down if it is the nvidia drivers that makes my computer freeze. I can't seem to go back to nouveau. I've uninstalled all other nvidia packages then nouveau. Removed the old xorg.conf. Reconfigured xorg (and got a new xorg.conf). In the new xorg.conf it says that I use nouveau. If I do lspci -nnk | grep... It shows that the kernel drive
[19:58] <Susning> r in use is nvidia. So I can't seem to get it to use nouveau. Any ideas?
[19:59] <auronandace> Susning: elementary isn't supported here
[19:59] <OerHeks> Susning, join #elementary
[19:59] <Susning> I did, and got no answer, and was directed here. I suppose installing nouveau would follow the same logics as in ubuntu 12.04?
[19:59] <xrandr> hi. I am running ubuntu 13.04 and i cannot get my iPhone which is running iOS 7.0.2 to mount. Anyone have any ideas?
[20:00] <OerHeks> Susning, good reason not to use elementary, no support ?
[20:01] <Susning> OerHeks, Got support on many things, and some not. Same as here, got support on some things, and some not. I use both Ubuntu and eOS, on different machines.
[20:01] <unicorn-lightnin> hramrach, you still around?
[20:01] <quizme> hi, is there a way to create a continuously open file "view" of a log file using grep?
[20:02] <Susning> Just thought I would give it a try here, since it's based on Ubuntu.
[20:02] <hramrach> unicorn-lightnin: why?
[20:02] <Pici> quizme: like tail -f filename | grep whatever   ?
[20:02] <hramrach> if you have a question just ask it
[20:02] <quizme> pici: yeah
[20:02] <Susning> But if it's against any guidelines or something to answer eOS related question I won't be nagging you ;)
[20:02] <xrandr> Anyone?
[20:03] <quizme> pici: that's what i was looking for :)
[20:03] <unicorn-lightnin> well, if I close the lid of my laptop, and then re-open it, I freeze at a black screen, I was wondering if that is related to the video drivers and what we were just working on, or something else
[20:03] <quizme> pici: i was piping grep into tail, so it wasn't working
[20:03] <hramrach> unicorn-lightnin: some of your drivers probably does not survive suspend
[20:04] <hramrach> just set the action on lid close to nothing in your power manager software
[20:04] <unicorn-lightnin> well... I'd like to be able to suspend..
[20:04] <unicorn-lightnin> maybe hibernation would work?
[20:04] <hramrach> unicorn-lightnin: well, give up on Radeon then
[20:05] <quizme> pici: I tried it, it works as expocted when piping to the STDOUT but not to a file… maybe the buffer is not getting flushed ?
[20:05] <unicorn-lightnin> :(
[20:05] <hramrach> actually it might be different driver that gives problems but I would suspect graphics first
[20:05] <unicorn-lightnin> how can I check?
[20:05] <Calinou> both won't work
[20:05] <Calinou> suspend and hibernation cause a lot of problems in general
[20:06] <Calinou> with all drivers, on linux
[20:06] <hramrach> by removing random drivers until suspend works ;-)
[20:06] <hramrach> Calinou: but radeon iso ne for the worst :p
[20:06] <unicorn-lightnin> isn't there some error log I can check?
[20:06] <Calinou> nvidia proprietary has problems too
[20:06] <Calinou> intel is probably the "least worst" at suspend
[20:06] <hramrach> unicorn-lightnin: since it's locked up you don;t get teh logs. obviously
[20:06] <Pici> quizme: What do you mean, whats command are you using?
[20:07] <quizme> pici: tail -f log.txt | grep 1.png > 1.txt
[20:07] <hramrach> you can search for linux powermanagement debugging
[20:07] <hramrach> you can like not suspend hte consoles and see if you do get any logs
[20:08] <hramrach> and hten bug the maintainer of whatever driver seems to lock up :p
[20:10] <Pici> quizme: Hmmm. I had to resort to stackoverflow, take a look here, as there are a few options you can try: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/972370/how-do-you-pipe-input-through-grep-to-another-utility
[20:12] <trism> quizme: in expect-dev there is an unbuffer command that allows you to work around the buffering
[20:13] <quizme> truism, pick: thank you
[20:13] <quizme> trism i mean
[20:13] <Pici> I thought there was an argument to tail or grep that would unbuffer, but it looks like its the other way around.
[20:13] <YokoBR> genii, hramrach, changed the cable, tryied to plug on a powered hub, still can't make it work: usb 1-6: reset high-speed USB device number 27 using ehci_hcd
[20:14] <quizme> grep --line-buffered
[20:14] <quizme> ?
[20:15] <Pici> quizme: yeah, but that probably won't help.
[20:15] <quizme> there is flush in awk
[20:15] <nightdrever> where are my programs stored? im trying to link my browser with something else but i dont know where to look for it?
[20:16] <genii> YokoBR: Perhaps try: sudo modprobe -r ehci-hcd&& sudo modprobe ohci-hcd    ...then try plugging it in again
[20:16] <YokoBR> genii FATAL: Module ehci_hcd is builtin
[20:17] <genii> Bah.
[20:19] <quizme> tail -f log.txt | awk '/1.png/ {print; fflush("")}'    > 1.txt
[20:19] <quizme> that did it for me
[20:30] <vikwiki> #join sympy
[20:30] <RightOn> /j sympy
[20:31] <meh34> hey guys, is there a way to get a list of who connected to SSH to an ubuntu server?
[20:32] <matubaum> Silly question, I opened "Update Manager" and pressed "Apply changes" (I' m currently on ubuntu 12.04)...   Am I updating or upgrading??
[20:32] <zykotick9> meh34: try "w" in terminal
[20:33] <meh34> zykotick9, thanks but this shows who is connnected right now
[20:33] <meh34> zykotick9, i wanted to see who connected in the past couple of weeks with their ip if possible
[20:33] <meh34> i just found some commands in my 'history' that i dont remember doing
[20:33] <zykotick9> meh34: oh sorry "connected" past tense.  you could check your auth logs perhaps.
[20:34] <Myrtti> matubaum: updating
[20:34] <Myrtti> matubaum: unless you've changed some settings deep down
[20:35] <matubaum> Myrtti: I only deactivated a ppa repo from a checkbox
[20:35] <Myrtti> then it should be fine
[20:36] <genii> meh34: As zykotick9 recommends, check the /var/log/auth.log and if you need to open the archived ones for viewing, zcat /var/log/auth.log.2.gz   ( or whatever number you have of them after 2 as well)
[20:37] <meh34> thanks
[20:37] <meh34> im looking at the file right now
[20:37] <meh34> one more thing, is there a way to get a timestamp with the 'history' command?
[20:37] <matubaum> Myrtti: Cool! thanks
[20:38] <genii> meh34: If you're seeing a lot of password attempts at root or so on in the auth.log, might want to install fail2ban
[20:40] <antoks> Hi, I'm trying to get somewhat decent performance from my Sapphire radeon 4890 gpu, with radeon drivers. I'm using kernel 3.11.3, mesa 9.3, have lixtns0 installed, radeon.dpm=1. I still only see ~26 FPS with unigine sanctuary in benchmark mode! (phoronix reports that 4890 should do ~55 with radeon drivers, a bit unsure about settings). I've also followed some tips from the arch-wiki.
[20:40] <meh34> genii, im going to.. but it would help if i can see when those commands were issued from the history really
[20:41] <antoks> what really weirds me out, is that I tried to disable vsync with a ~/.drirc file, but then suddenly I got higher framerates (locked to 30fps), which made me believe I suddenly had vsync enabled instead, and that it gives me highe fps!
[20:41] <antoks> Anyone seen this before?
[20:43] <Calinou> unigine + radeon usually don't mix that well
[20:43] <Calinou> unigine hates OSS drivers :P
[20:43] <Calinou> does it happen with other games?
[20:44] <xangua> !netflix
[20:44] <nick__> Hai there everyone.  So, I've got a big big problem
[20:44] <antoks> Calinou: haven't tried with anything but unigine tropics and sanctuary, no
[20:45] <antoks> I used those since they where used in the phoronix benchmark of my card (4890), and was easy to download and run
[20:45] <antoks> and I get ~ half the performance
[20:46] <nick__> Not sure if anyones able to help but heres what I got: I was on 13.04, installed ATI driver for my card (hd 4200, driver=13.1) that I got from AMD's site for 64 bit.  Well, that failed.  So I got looking into it and it was to be used on 13.04, so i installed 12.04, made sure kernel was support by driver (kernel 3.2.x), installed the drivers, no luck (theres more...)
[20:46] <Calinou> don't do that
[20:46] <antoks> so I'm wondering if I have not set some important env-variable to trigger something new.
[20:46] <Calinou> on 13.04, HD4000s and prior are unsupported with the proprietary driver.
[20:46] <Calinou> but, you should also not use the driver from amd's website
[20:46] <Calinou> only from packages
[20:46] <Calinou> you did TWO mistakes :P
[20:46] <nick__> So I started looking at posts and a lot seem to have this problem.  I installed the driver, now my resolution is 1024x768 (horrible), im on 12.04 and using kernel 3.2 and ati driver 13.1
[20:46] <nick__> ?
[20:47] <Calinou> also, do you really need the proprietary driver?
[20:47] <nick__> id like it, yes
[20:47] <Calinou> an HD4200 is very unpowerful, you probably don't need it
[20:47] <nick__> games run like shit on here
[20:47] <wilee-nilee> !nicks
[20:47] <nick__> lol, games run better on vista
[20:47] <Calinou> they'll still run like shit with proprietary
[20:47] <nick__> :(
[20:47] <wilee-nilee> !nick
[20:47] <IdleOne> !language
[20:47] <nick__> sorry
[20:47] <IdleOne> also, please more content and less returns
[20:47] <nick__> im real frustrated as well.  ive been fighting this all day
[20:48] <Calinou> try disabling desktop effects/compositing if you want better performance in games, and tune their settings better.
[20:48] <nick__> is the ati proprietary driver even possible for radeon hd 4200 on ubuntu 12.04?
[20:48] <Calinou> I think so
[20:48] <wilee-nilee> Calinou, nick__ use nicks please.
[20:49] <Calinou> what do you mean?
[20:49] <nick__> i am nick?
[20:49] <Calinou> ah
[20:49] <mojtaba> Hi, Does anybody know how can I extract sound of a movie?
 Your nick is how people know you on IRC. Please don't change your nicknames too often (use /nick newnick), or it creates a lot of confusion. You should also !register your nick with freenode.
[20:49] <wilee-nilee> !tab
[20:50] <nick__> Calinou: how do i uninstall the failed fglrx now, would you know?  If its going to be this much hassle, I'll use the one included with ubuntu
[20:50] <wilee-nilee> just keeps things from being confusing is all
[20:50] <mojtaba> or save audio file of a multimedia file like mp4 or avi or ...
[20:50] <Calinou> nick__: if you don't have any important data, just reinstall :\
[20:50] <nick__> wilee-nilee: yes, i understand, i just didnt think of it
[20:50] <Calinou> mojtaba: VLC can do that maybe, but I'm not sure
[20:50] <wilee-nilee> nick__, Cool, easy mistake carry on. ;)
[20:50] <nick__> Calinou: I shall do that :(  I have /home on its own partition
[20:51] <Alan423> Should i upgrade to GNOME??
[20:51] <wilee-nilee> Alan423, from what?
[20:51] <Alan423> Ubuntu 12.8
[20:51] <Calinou> wilee-nilee: didn't think of it either :P
[20:51] <nick__> Alan423: It depends.  do you like messy and unintuitive?
[20:51] <Calinou> Alan423: 12.8 isn't a version of ubuntu or gnome
[20:51] <wilee-nilee> Alan423, 12.04?
[20:52] <Alan423> Maybe it is 13.1
[20:52] <mojtaba> Calinou: Do you know how can I do that via command line? I have lots of video files, and I want to do this.
[20:52] <bibic682> anyone....which linux distro does the most with the least resources
[20:52] <wilee-nilee> Alan423, run uname -a and post the info
[20:52] <nick__> bibic682: crunchbang I hear is good
[20:52] <wilee-nilee> Alan423, and what desktop
[20:52] <Calinou> mojtaba: ffmpeg maybe then, but it has a steep learning curve
[20:52] <Calinou> maybe there is a GUI frontend to ffmpeg that can help
[20:53] <mojtaba> Calinou: Have you ever done this before?
[20:53] <Calinou> no :(
[20:53] <bibic682> not familiar with that....I have a amd64 754 mb set up with win xp...runs great but would love to dual boot a linux disto
[20:54] <gordonjcp> bibic682: what spec is it?
[20:54] <nick__> bibic682: I'm not too familiar with it either, to be honest.  Ubuntu is very easy, somewhat light, and powerful, so I find its great to use.  Unfortunately I need to dual boot a windows installation for work, so I got Windos and Ubuntu
[20:54] <gordonjcp> bibic682: if it can run XP, it can run any version of Ubuntu
[20:54] <mojtaba> When I run sound Recorder and click on the red circle nothing happens and it does not start recording. Does anybody know what could be the problem?
[20:55] <gordonjcp> bibic682: if it is just barely capable of running XP (like, no 3D acceleration) try Xubuntu
[20:55] <Pinkamena_D> Hello, what is a program I could use to just view the output of a capture device, I don't even need to record
[20:55] <Gentoo64> gordonjcp: not at all
[20:55] <nick__> Pinkamena_D: screenshot?
[20:55] <gordonjcp> Gentoo64: hm?
[20:55] <antoks> I forgot to mention that the reason I'm doing all this is to try to get better performance with heroes of newerth =d
[20:55] <Calinou> Lubuntu is even lighter, I'd suggest it on old machines :)
[20:55] <Pinkamena_D> sorry, I mean a video capture device
[20:55] <nick__> Pinkamena_D: or kazaam i think is good for that
[20:55] <gordonjcp> Calinou: Lubuntu uses LXDE, which is horribly buggy
[20:56] <Calinou> in which sense?
[20:56] <nick__> Pinkamena_D: sorry, not sure.
[20:56] <bibic682> I have used  ubuntu up to 10.10....when I install 12.04 unity is slow on my machine.....amd 64  with 2gig ram single core processor
[20:56] <Calinou> I used it a bit, only bug I found was mouse wheel sometimes being ignored in games (but I'm on xubuntu anyway)
[20:56] <Gentoo64> gordonjcp: xp has much lower ram requirements then ubuntu
[20:57] <gordonjcp> Gentoo64: XP won't really work with less than 512M
[20:57] <nick__> Gentoo64: Damn Small Linux and Crunchbang are both supposed to be very small
[20:57] <mojtaba> When I run sound Recorder and click on the red circle nothing happens and it does not start recording. Does anybody know what could be the problem?
[20:57] <Gentoo64> gordonjcp: works on 128
[20:57] <otak> bibic682: generally you'll find it's the desktop not the distro which is light or slow,
[20:57] <nick__> mojtaba: check your input devices in your sound settings
[20:58] <nick__> When will Ubuntu Touch be available for my HTC phone?
[20:58] <gordonjcp> Gentoo64: <shrug>
[20:58] <gordonjcp> Gentoo64: it's probably not very usable thought
[20:58] <gordonjcp> Gentoo64: *though
[20:58] <Gentoo64> gordonjcp: just saying, its a lot lighter
[20:58] <gordonjcp> Gentoo64: back when it came out, it wasn't usable in less than 512M
[20:58] <gordonjcp> Gentoo64: I can't see it being any better now
[20:58] <bibic682> gordonjcp: my machine is fast with win xp I have a radeon 9500 graphics card  ...when I try ubuntu, unity just sucks....it ran real well up to 10.10
[20:58] <Gentoo64> when it came out no one hardly had 512
[20:58] <nexustwelve> Openbox is about as light as it gets.
[20:58] <gordonjcp> bibic682: give Xubuntu a shot
[20:58] <Gentoo64> nah its not
[20:59] <mojtaba> nick__: It shows Record from input: Master
[20:59] <Gentoo64> i3 uses like 2mb ram
[20:59] <gordonjcp> bibic682: radeon 9500 ought to be okay, but older ATI cards are finicky to get going
[20:59] <mojtaba> nick_: in the sound settings, it shows my input is my internal microphone
[20:59] <gordonjcp> Gentoo64: i3 isn't very good though
[20:59] <Gentoo64> yeah it is
[20:59] <mojtaba> nick_: but it is not working!
[20:59] <Gentoo64> might not be for you
[20:59] <gordonjcp> Gentoo64: it's a tiling wm
[20:59] <nick__> mojtaba: try making sure that your microphone is plugged in, and being recognized by the sound settings, I'm no master with Ubuntu, was just here to ask a driver question
[20:59] <gordonjcp> Gentoo64: it's pointless
[20:59] <bibic682> any way of installing it without grub loader taking over?
[21:00] <Gentoo64> gordonjcp: to you
[21:00] <gordonjcp> bibic682: you need some means of booting Linux
[21:00] <nick__> mojtaba: sorry, maybe someone else has the answer.  if not feel free to post on ubuntuforums.com
[21:00] <gordonjcp> Gentoo64: I don't understand the obsession with tiling WMs and tiny pixelly grey-on-grey fonts
[21:00] <mojtaba> nick_: Thanks, but it shows it is working when I am in sound settings.
[21:00] <mojtaba> nick_: ok, thanks
[21:00] <gordonjcp> Gentoo64: we got rid of tiling WMs 30 years ago because they sucked
[21:00] <Gentoo64> gordonjcp: no
[21:00] <mojtaba> Does anybody know why the sound recorder is not working?!
[21:01] <gordonjcp> mojtaba: what happens when you try to use it?
[21:01] <nexustwelve> I'm grateful for so many DE options.
[21:01] <bibic682> when I download and install from windows....ubuntu will dual boot . I can uninstall and I am back to booting to windows
[21:01] <mojtaba> gordonjcp: nothing happens when I click on the red button for recording.
[21:01] <gordonjcp> bibic682: not really, there used to be a thing called wubi but it's not very good
[21:02] <gordonjcp> mojtaba: what does "Record from input:" say?
[21:02] <mojtaba> gordonjcp: Master
[21:02] <nexustwelve> You can undo grub's changes using a windows CD and the recovery console.
[21:02] <gordonjcp> bibic682: if you don't want to install, just run it from a USB stick
[21:02] <gordonjcp> mojtaba: and "Record as:"?
[21:02] <nexustwelve> Just run bootrec.exe /fixboot and bootrec.exe /fixmbr
[21:03] <mojtaba> gordonjcp: There is nothing!!
[21:03] <gordonjcp> mojtaba: select something
[21:03] <mojtaba> gordonjcp: The list is empty!
[21:03] <bibic682> I might give Xubuntu a try...thanks for the tips!!
[21:03] <gordonjcp> mojtaba: strange, that's where to start looking then
[21:03] <gordonjcp> mojtaba: wonder why it has no codecs listeD?
[21:03] <gordonjcp> goodnight, all
[21:04] <mojtaba> gordonjcp: should I install something? before it was working I guess
[21:04] <gordonjcp> mojtaba: possibly, not sure what
[21:04] <SuperLag> Is there a keyboard shortcut to bring up the Preferences for Terminal?
[21:05] <Gentoo64> gordonjcp: night
[21:05] <chaotic_good> ubuntu scores one against the redhat empire!!!! has reiserfsprogs avaiulable!!!
[21:06] <chaotic_good> in 1204
[21:06] <chaotic_good> !!
[21:06] <Gentoo64> lol
[21:06] <mojtaba> gordonjcp: That is strange!
[21:06] <mojtaba> Does anybody know what should I do?
[21:08] <bibic682> nexustwelve: I had the rude awakening of repartitioning my hard drive to remove kubuntu and then I couldnt get back to windows...luckilly I had an install disk and repaired the MBR
[21:09] <otak> SuperLag: does the 'menu' key next to right-ctrl work for that?
[21:12] <mojtaba> Does anybody know when this will be fixed? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-media/+bug/1106908
[21:17] <SuperLag> otak: I don't have a Menu key on my laptop. On the left of right-Ctrl, I have PrtSc, and on the right, it's PgUp
[21:18] <sergiudev> loooooll
[21:18] <sergiudev> mann, that ubuntu is a joke
[21:18] <sergiudev> is more worst then windows xp in 20 tims
[21:18] <sergiudev> is stupid operation system
[21:19] <SuperLag> sergiudev: you're smoking crack, dude
[21:19] <sergiudev> fireofx lunch in 4-5 sconds :DD
[21:19] <sergiudev> control centr, 3-4 seconds
[21:19] <SuperLag> I take that back. You're just a troll.
[21:19] <sergiudev> Dont developers understand that permanent asking of pass in soft ware center, is stupidness??
[21:20] <sergiudev> i must enter my password 20 times
[21:20] <sergiudev> :)
[21:20] <sergiudev> probaly its possible to rmove that.
[21:20] <sergiudev> cant install steam,You are missing the following 32-bit libraries, and Steam may not run:
[21:20] <sergiudev> libc.so.6
[21:20] <sergiudev> only
[21:20] <sergiudev> guru can understand that..
[21:20] <SuperLag> /ignore sergiudev
[21:20] <chaotic_good> reiserFS raid 10 FOR THE WIN
[21:21] <bekks> SuperLag: good choice.
[21:21] <sergiudev> very worst systemm
[21:21] <genii> sergiudev: Nop one's forcing you to use it. Use whatever you like.
[21:21] <Pinkamena_D> Hello, I am trying to get my video capture device to work (SMI grabber device) but I can not find where it has been mounted. This is the dmesg: http://pastebin.com/2TDgXAFd  any ideas?
[21:21] <sergiudev> its only for linus torvalds ;)
[21:21] <ztane> freiserfs, raid0
[21:21] <ztane> killerfs
[21:21] <chaotic_good> free hans!
[21:22] <Naddd> can someone tell me how the red dot at the bottom of the volume control in the capture section of the mixer works?
[21:22] <Naddd> red is mic on / gray is mic off?
[21:22] <chaotic_good> iceWM
[21:22] <sergiudev> genii: yes, i just wanted to give two tips to make ubuntu better to surf: remove that effects and auto-clicking on programs (need double click)
[21:22] <chaotic_good> for the win
[21:22] <sergiudev> and how to remove visual efects?
[21:22] <sergiudev> ;)))
[21:22] <genii> sergiudev: If you need help configuring Software Center not to ask for your password 20 times, or to install Steam, then you can ask here and someone might help.
[21:23] <sergiudev> If someone could help for the beginning, to remove visual windows effects.. Iam using ubnutu 13.04 Gnome version with unity..
[21:23] <genii> sergiudev: But keep in mind, people are far less inclined to help you if the first thing you do is just rant about how bad you think it is, etc
[21:23] <sergiudev> i like start button from unity
[21:24] <sergiudev> )
[21:24] <giuseppe_g> hello
[21:24] <sergiudev> how to make all windows hide, alt+d, there arent ctrl+alt delete like in windows
[21:25] <sergiudev> this Os muist be like windows
[21:25] <sergiudev> is undere
[21:26] <sergiudev> this system is joke
[21:26] <sergiudev> dont use it;)
[21:26] <bazhang> !nounity | sergiudev
[21:26] <giuseppe_g> Is it possible to to build a distro on ubuntu
[21:26] <bazhang> !remaster | giuseppe_g
[21:27] <giuseppe_g> but to sell and distribute
[21:27] <bazhang> sergiudev, keep all the nonsense chat elsewhere
[21:27] <sergiudev> bazhang
[21:27] <giuseppe_g> ???
[21:27] <sergiudev> say me, how to remove visual effects in ubuntu 13.04???
[21:27] <sergiudev> give me dirrct answer
[21:28] <sergiudev> its not possible, you must use conf files
[21:28] <Naddd> fuck this cat
[21:28] <Naddd> chat
[21:28] <sergiudev> or install additional programs
[21:28] <Naddd> 8[21:28] <Naddd> PENIS
[21:28] <giuseppe_g> hello
[21:29] <bazhang> !patience | sergiudev
[21:30] <giuseppe_g> can i sell modified ubuntu software with the ubuntu logo
[21:30] <IdleOne> no
[21:31] <IdleOne> giuseppe_g: you should contact Canonical to get info about using the Ubuntu logo. www.canonical.com
[21:31] <unicorn-lightnin> sorry to bother you again hramrach, but could you remind me the location that you had me enter that start up command?
[21:31] <giuseppe_g> can I sell modified ubuntu software with the ubuntu logo with its name, such as execs files that had not been deleted.
[21:32] <unicorn-lightnin> I accidentally broke X and couldn't boot, so I just re-installed.
[21:32] <mojtaba> Does anybody know when this will be fixed? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-media/+bug/1106908
[21:32] <mojtaba> What should I do?
[21:32] <sergiudev> haha, one aditional tab in firefox ubuntu need 1-2 second to open
[21:32] <sergiudev> :D
[21:32] <giuseppe_g> can I sell modified ubuntu software with the ubuntu logo with its name, such as execs files that had not been deleted.
[21:32] <sergiudev> all we know that its slow ok .
[21:33] <IdleOne> giuseppe_g: you should contact Canonical to get info about using the Ubuntu logo. www.canonical.com
[21:33] <IdleOne> giuseppe_g: we don't handle trademark and copyright questions here
[21:33] <high_fiver> sergiudev, what system u git?
[21:33] <mojtaba> Does anybody know when this will be fixed? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-media/+bug/1106908
[21:33] <high_fiver> *got
[21:33] <giuseppe_g> Where do you
[21:33] <sergiudev> high_fiver, ubuntu gnome 13.04 ...
[21:34] <genii> giuseppe_g: Maybe read http://www.ubuntu.com/legal
[21:34] <sergiudev> its good, but its hard to understand
[21:34] <high_fiver> sergiudev, no what OS, what system
[21:34] <giuseppe_g> Thanks
[21:34] <sergiudev> You Mean proccesor etc?
[21:34] <high_fiver> *not, fuck me can't type today
[21:34] <high_fiver> sergiudev, exactly
[21:34] <IdleOne> high_fiver: no cursing please
[21:35] <genii> giuseppe_g: The pertinent one you want read, which links from there, is http://www.ubuntu.com/legal
[21:35] <genii> giuseppe_g: Apologies, http://www.canonical.com/intellectual-property-policy
[21:35] <giuseppe_g> thx
[21:35] <sergiudev> high_fiver dual core, but it freez couse of visual efects i suppose ,
[21:36] <high_fiver> sergiudev, Duo/Athlon come on you can tell me
[21:37] <high_fiver> sergiudev, I'm sure the 'slowness' I more to do with your hardware than Ubuntu
[21:38] <sergiudev> you know that onwindows verything run magic
[21:38] <sergiudev> on ubuntu gnome everything freze if slow proccesor
[21:38] <sergiudev> ;D
[21:38] <sergiudev> need xubuntnu ;))
[21:38] <high_fiver> need a new comp
[21:39] <high_fiver> save your pocket money and invest
[21:41] <sergiudev> you need to install addition tools from software center like compiz tweak to remove effects ;))
[21:41] <sergiudev> this is Os for students
[21:41] <sergiudev> not any forgivness for ubuntu if not as easy to manage like windows
[21:42] <Guest21029> hello guys, do you know any good audio player with advanced playlist support and powerful features, to mount a radio?
[21:42] <bazhang> !ot | sergiudev
[21:42] <bazhang> !players | Guest21029
[21:42] <sergiudev> i should be director of ubnutu
[21:43] <Guest21029> thank you
[21:43] <Guest21029> i will test them
[21:43] <sergiudev> yeah ,this linux is a big joke , tomorrow install windows thanks to linux hlping me to burn iso
[21:44] <high_fiver> how could you be the director of an OS
[21:44] <vusie> sergiudev: lolest cumon
[21:44] <zykotick9> high_fiver: vusie don't feed...
[21:46] <michaelwang32> is ubuntu 13.04 good for a penitum 4
[21:47] <vusie> zykotick9: thats it!
[21:47] <vusie> anyone media player (exept xbmc) with .lrc lyric plugin or suppot?
[21:48] <vusie> owwwhhhh sorrry anyone who knows
[21:48] <Rory> vusie: The lyricsdownloader package (available in the official repos) can be used to display lyrics on your desktop. It works with many music players, like rhythmbox, amarak, audacious, exaile, juk, banshee, songbird, etc.
[21:49] <high_fiver> michaelwang32, I'd recommend Xubuntu or Lubuntu
[21:49] <Rory> vusie: Also I believe Songbird has a lyrics addon of its own
[21:49] <high_fiver> michaelwang32, how much RAM will you use
[21:50] <vusie> Rory: thaks!!! leme try them!
[21:50] <michaelwang32> 1.75 gb
[21:50] <darklajid> Quantal doesn't seem to have a /etc/mtab anymore. The docevot package for quantal seems to require one (writes an error if none is found). Is that a packaging bug?
[21:50] <Rory> michaelwang32: Then Xubuntu and Lubuntu will be better off for you - Lubuntu is more lightweight than Xubuntu, but xubuntu is arguably more mature
[21:50] <michaelwang32> ok
[21:50] <high_fiver> michaelwang32, RAM is fine for all OS
[21:51] <high_fiver> michaelwang32, Try running live cd's of them all and see which one is quickest
[21:51] <Rory> high_fiver: Yes, but if he's got 1.75GiB RAM on a penium 4 he probably won't have the GPU power to run Unity.
[21:53] <genii> michaelwang32: With those specs, probably Xubuntu or Lubuntu are your best bets
[21:54] <vusie> michaelwang32: also try elementary
[21:59] <cjwelborn> Can I add a fat32 partition without losing my Ubuntu installation? I did it before in reverse, I shrunk a Fat32 from windows, and then created a EXT4. Can I shrink my EXT4, and make a Fat32?
[22:00] <genii> cjwelborn: So long as there's room.
[22:00] <bekks> cjwelborn: There si always a risk of losing data. You should take a backup before.
[22:01] <cjwelborn> genii: thanks. plenty of room, i'll give it a try. thankfully everything important is already backed up (i just recently lost EVERYTHING and I'm trying to get my dual-boot back, except this time I started with Ubuntu).
[22:03] <genii> cjwelborn: If you install Windows onto the new partition, it will wipe out grub, see !mbr after for instructions
[22:04] <bekks> df -h
[22:04] <bekks> sorry :)
[22:04] <cjwelborn> genii: i was afraid of that. and this is a UEFI machine too. I'm hoping boot-repair will save me for a third time.
[22:05] <high_fiver> has anyone got thunderbolt display working
[22:06] <nexustwelve> boot-repair is so good.
[22:07] <DarkAceLaptop> is there a way to tell my system to speed up my laptop fan, or something similar?
[22:11] <nexustwelve> @DarkAce http://sourceforge.net/projects/fancon/
[22:12] <nexustwelve> still pre-alpha!
[22:15] <tiky> how do i put a chokehold on plugin-container of flash, cpu and memory wise
[22:15] <tiky> process "plugin-container' i.e., adobe flash
[22:16] <bekks> tiky: you could set up cgroups and set limits on the specific cgroup. But thats far more complicated than stating your real issue :)
[22:17] <nexustwelve> use renice when it starts behaving like a jerk?
[22:18] <netdevil> hola
[22:18] <tiky> hmm...
[22:18] <netdevil> hmm...
[22:18] <tiky> trying to find a relative page w/ instructions
[22:19] <tiky> relevant*
[22:20] <bekks> tiky: why not stating your real issue?
[22:20] <tiky> my issue is that flash is choking the crap out of my computer on an hourly basis
[22:20] <tiky> bcuz as everyone knows it's total garbage
[22:21] <bekks> tiky: so which ubuntu version, which browser and its version, which adobe flash and its version are you using?
[22:22] <tiky> 3.8.0.27-generic, x86_64, i think ubuntu 13.04
[22:22] <tiky> up to date firefox and flash
[22:22] <tiky> i've had flash problems on every system ever though
[22:22] <tiky> this one looks like a nasty memory leak
[22:23] <nexustwelve> flash is well-behaved on mine.  Xubuntu 12.04 LTS x64...liquorix 3.10.12 kernel.
[22:23] <bekks> tiky: Please state the versions of firefox and flash.
[22:23] <nexustwelve> Firefox is v24
[22:24] <siac215> INFO
[22:24] <tiky> hmm guess my firefox is out of date
[22:24] <tiky> 23, upgrading to 24
[22:25] <Tylertwo> [#ubuntu] tiky: What kind of programs are using your flash player? Youtube? Games?
[22:25] <nexustwelve> Firefox v23 gave me no grief either.
[22:25] <tiky> youtube
[22:25] <DarkAceLaptop> thanks, nexustwelve, but it can't find my fan device :P
[22:25] <Tylertwo> tiky: have you tried lower quality videos? That helps a lot for me. Ie 120 pp instead of 360 or whatever
[22:25] <tiky> it's actually after the video's finished
[22:25] <tiky> last time at least
[22:26] <tiky> great now it's stalling again
[22:27] <nexustwelve> Try disabling hardware acceleration.  It helps for some.  Also, make sure Flash is at least...11.2.202
[22:27] <bekks> tiky: Then state the missing information.
[22:27] <gvo> "input signal out of range"  I used to fix that problem with a change to xorg.conf, but there isn't such a file any longer.  What's the current way of setting horiz/vert freq, refresh?
[22:27] <tiky> it's true that flash stopped updating its linux version, right?
[22:28] <gvo> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg didn't help
[22:29] <Tylertwo> tiky: I think so
[22:29] <TauNeutrino> hey gays
[22:30] <TauNeutrino> Is something like pdnsd already used in chrome?
[22:30] <genii> gvo: You can still use xorg.conf file and it will be used, it's just not made by default any more.
[22:30] <genii> !xorgconf | gvo
[22:31] <gvo> genii: OK thanks.
[22:31] <TauNeutrino> hey sry
[22:32] <TauNeutrino> someone alive?
[22:33] <Tylertwo> TauNeutrino: maybe?
[22:34] <TauNeutrino> ah ok
[22:34] <TauNeutrino> is something like pdnsd already used in chrome?
[22:35] <Tylertwo> TauNeutrino: never heard of pdnsd
[22:35] <TauNeutrino> its a webcaching
[22:35] <TauNeutrino> -a
[22:35] <TauNeutrino> local caching of dns information
[22:35] <TauNeutrino> ect.
[22:36] <xangua> TauNeutrino: you might have better luck at #chromium
[22:37] <TauNeutrino> ah ok thx
[22:37] <TauNeutrino> byebye
[22:42] <Magyarok> How do I stop my ubuntu server from pinging?
[22:43] <Magyarok> Is anyone here?
[22:43] <Tylertwo> Magyarok: maybe?
[22:49] <nexustwelve> ctrl C
[22:49] <nexustwelve> or...ps ax | grep ping....followed by kill 'pid for ping'
[22:52] <unicorn-lightnin> could anyone tell me where I should place a command to automatically run when the computer starts? I need it for my video drivers, and earlier hramrach told me but I forgot to save it
[22:53] <mojtaba> Can I go to a specific workspace by its number? not by alt+ctrl+arrow key (instantly, go to that workspace.)
[22:54] <mojtaba> suppose I have 10 workspaces, and I do not want to reveal the workspaces in between
[22:55] <loa> unicorn-lightnin, you can create upstart job, need example?
[22:56] <unicorn-lightnin> there was a particular text file that hramrach had me edit earlier
[22:56] <unicorn-lightnin> It fixed everything..
[22:56] <unicorn-lightnin> I added this line of text to it "chmod -R 777 /proc/ati/"
[22:57] <mojtaba> Can I go to a specific workspace by its number? not by alt+ctrl+arrow key (instantly, go to that workspace.) suppose I have 10 workspaces, and I do not want to reveal the workspaces in between.
[22:57] <loa> unicorn-lightnin, then you can try to search it, grep -nr '/proc/ati' /etc/*
[22:58] <unicorn-lightnin> well, the problem is I had to re-install Ubuntu
[22:58] <loa> lol
[22:58] <unicorn-lightnin> I don't have it anymore
[22:58] <loa> unicorn-lightnin, http://askubuntu.com/questions/9853/how-can-i-make-rc-local-run-on-startup
[22:59] <Magyarok> Could someone help me with setting up DNS for ubuntu server?
[23:00] <unicorn-lightnin> does rc.local run as root?
[23:00] <unicorn-lightnin> loa?
[23:01] <bekks> unicorn-lightnin: yes, it does.
[23:01] <mojtaba> Can I go to a specific workspace by its number? not by alt+ctrl+arrow key (instantly, go to that workspace.) suppose I have 10 workspaces, and I do not want to reveal the workspaces in between.
[23:01] <Magyarok> nexustwelve: could you help me with setting up DNS for ubuntu server?
[23:02] <loa> unicorn-lightnin, yes
[23:02] <loa> Magyarok, what problem?
[23:02] <Magyarok> I just freshly installed ubuntu server on a desktop, I need help setting up the DNS
[23:02] <unicorn-lightnin> loa, I think thats it, thank you!
[23:03] <Magyarok> How to set it to a static IP
[23:03] <loa> Magyarok, man interfaces
[23:03] <Magyarok> under /ect/network/interfaces
[23:03] <John_Michael> hey, for some reason my ubuntu 12.04.3 server is still prompting me for my password after using ssh-copy-id
[23:04] <John_Michael> the common solution i found online was to change permissions on authorized_keys but that isnt working
[23:04] <wilee-nilee> !ssh | John_Michael might help
[23:04] <Magyarok> Ioa, I need specific help with what to write in
[23:04] <loa> Magyarok, what you have in resolv.conf?
[23:04] <Jayflux> hey guys, managed to get a shared folder working on  ubuntu server, but how do i get it to show on desktop?
[23:04] <Jayflux> virtualbox and ubuntu btw
[23:05] <mojtaba> Can I go to a specific workspace by its number? not by alt+ctrl+arrow key (instantly, go to that workspace.) suppose I have 10 workspaces, and I do not want to reveal the workspaces in between.
[23:05] <Jayflux> 12.04
[23:05] <Magyarok> Ioa, could I PM you about this please?
[23:05] <John_Michael> ahh, it was an encrypted home directory, ty wilee-nilee
[23:05] <wilee-nilee> cool, no problem
[23:06] <loa> Magyarok, ok
[23:06] <mojtaba> wilee-nilee: Can I go to a specific workspace by its number? not by alt+ctrl+arrow key (instantly, go to that workspace.) suppose I have 10 workspaces, and I do not want to reveal the workspaces in between.
[23:06] <wilee-nilee> !patience | mojtaba
[23:06] <Infandum> Is it possible to put Ubuntu Touch on the Samsung Galaxy S2 Tmobile version (T989)?
[23:06] <ccolorado> what is the syntax to add a ppa from https://code.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/tmux  ? ( i have been trying unsuccesfully to add sudo add-apt-repository ppa:ubuntu/tmux on ubuntu 12.04 )
[23:06] <wilee-nilee> Don't just start asking people, mojtaba
[23:10] <Neo31> hello, I do not receive emails on launchpad-id@ubuntu.com where should I go to solve the problem please?
[23:11] <Lighting> hey guys dose anyone know how i can create a forum on ubutu and upload it to a chat room ?
[23:26] <IdleOne> Neo31: see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuEmail
[23:27] <IdleOne> Neo31: there is a contact email at the bottom of that wiki.
[23:30] <Neo31> thanks IdleOne
[23:33] <darklajid> So, I'm migrating an appliance/installation from precise to quantal (those names are _painful_). The latter seems to lack /etc/mtab. dovecot (installed via apt-get install dovecot) requires that file and hugs syslog, crying about the missing file, if that isn't the case.
[23:34] <darklajid> In my world that means: Quantal did something crappy OR quantal failed to update dovecot.
[23:34] <darklajid> (if dovecot drops its reliance on /etc/mtab at all)
[23:35] <darklajid> Bug? Should I file that?
[23:35] <Dr_Willis_> hmm. mtab has been in ever release ive noticed..
[23:35] <Dr_Willis_> every..
[23:35] <Dr_Willis_> but im on 13.10 at the moment
[23:35] <Dr_Willis_> brb
[23:36] <Magyarok> Could someone help me configure SSH on my ubuntu server?
[23:37] <loa> Nobody will help you if you can't show debug information.
[23:37] <bekks> !ssh | Magyarok
[23:38] <loa> !network loa
[23:38] <loa> !interfaces loa
[23:38] <loa> !help
[23:45] <Dr_Willis_> !brain > loa
[23:57] <Magyarok> My ubuntu server is acting weird, im having DNS issues
[23:57] <Magyarok> Could someone help me?
[23:58] <compdoc> is it running a dns service?
[23:58] <Magyarok> not sure.
[23:59] <compdoc> whats the problem?
[23:59] <Magyarok> I was trying to install webmin, and it came up with errors
[23:59] <loa> Magyarok, show here you current /etc/network/interfaces