[00:24] <TJ-> Anyone else with a battery-powered PC - Is the Gnome Power Statistics page showing a broken icon for the battery when it is charging?
[04:05] <unicorn-lightnin> hello, I've just upgraded to the Saucy beta, and I can't seem to uninstall the Amazon package. It is not in the software center?
[09:00] <espen77> just installed yesterdays build of the beta. Seems the installer has a coupple of hickups..where/who would be the best to rant about it?
[11:34] <pvh_sa> heya all... I just installed the 13.10 beta on a Dell Lattitude E6530, but I can't get either Rhythmbox or Banshee to play music. Audio *is* working (I can play mp3 files using gst-launch-1.0) - neither of the GUI players do *anything* though. Any ideas?
[11:34] <bazhang> filed a bug on it?
[11:35] <pvh_sa> trying to find if its a known bug first. where should i search?
[11:35] <bazhang> launchpad
[11:46] <ikonia> pvh_sa: look at the codec the files require
[11:50] <pvh_sa> ikonia, codec's there. switched to using clementine for now
[12:21] <BluesKaj> HI all
[12:45] <lenz> Hey there! I'm on a fresh install of 13.10. How can I remove the amazon scope?
[12:45] <k1l> you can disable it in the privacy settings
[12:46] <k1l> or you remove the shopping lense package
[12:46] <lenz> sudo apt-get remove unity-lense-shopping?
[12:47] <Rory> lenz: unity-lens-shopping
[12:47] <Rory> lens is spelled thusly :)
[12:47] <lenz> There's no such thing.
[12:47] <Rory> !info unity-lens-shopping
[12:47] <Rory> Well I'll be
[12:47] <lenz> yup
[12:47] <Rory> gg canonical
[12:47] <lenz> because that's what I tried
[12:47] <Pici> I didn't think it was in a separate package in saucy.
[12:48] <Rory> Probably can't remove it any more
[12:48] <lenz> WTF Canonical
[12:48] <Pici> I could be wrong though, I'm not running 13.10 here (and even if I was, it wouldn't be with Unity)
[12:48] <lenz> Seriously?
[12:48] <lenz> Pici I thought I'd give unity another try
[12:48] <Pici> lenz: As k1l said, check the privacy settings.
[12:48] <k1l> oh yeah, let the drama begin m(
[12:48] <Rory> lenz: If you need help setting up Arch Linux I'm on this network from 9am to 5.30pm British time every weekday
[12:48] <k1l> Rory: m(
[12:49] <lenz> Rory :D Great idea
[12:49] <lenz> k1l, it worked fine
[12:49] <lenz> I'd feel better removing that package though
[12:49] <k1l> why that?
[12:49] <k1l> do you really believe in FUD?
[12:51] <lenz> No, simply because I don't want it
[12:51] <k1l> i mean im looking just now in which package it sits because i think it should be removable as a package since its the key of a package managment. but  just to remove packages because someone made fuzz about it could be spyware even when its not executed at all. i dont think that is a base to use a OS
[12:52] <lenz> Yes, I understand.
[12:52] <lenz> I just wanted to remove the stuff I don't want nor need.
[12:53] <ikonia> lenz: what's stopping you ?
[12:53] <k1l> i mean. if you think canonical could have put something in that lens which is dangerous even when its  disabled i would think it could be in other packages too. and then i would not use that OS. that is my point. but im looking into it right now, where that package is now
[12:53] <BluesKaj> if not removable then can it be disabled?
[12:54] <ikonia> BluesKaj: still shows up in the settings as disabled option
[12:54] <k1l> BluesKaj: yep, in privacy settings
[12:54] <lenz> k1l, I never said that it's spyware/malware or something like that
[12:54] <lenz> you put that in my mouth :)
[12:55] <k1l> lenz: i know where that "it must be removed!!!1111" comes from :/
[12:55] <lenz> Wow k1l.
[12:55] <k1l> http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?suite=saucy&arch=any&searchon=names&keywords=shopping
[12:55] <lenz> You're quite judgemental
[12:55] <BluesKaj> I was conidering installing Ubuntu with unity on another partition , but Canonical's decision to put retailer links on my desktop by default rubs me the wrong way
[12:56] <ikonia> don't use it, it's that simple
[12:56] <ikonia> don't like canonicals policy, don't use their product
[12:56] <k1l> seems like they put it into the unity-home-scope
[12:57] <BluesKaj> ikonia, most likely won't
[12:57]  * alankila thinks gnome 3 is a fine alternative to unity. It can do more than 4 virtual desktops at the very least, and gets even more out of the way.
[12:57] <BluesKaj> I hear good things about cinnamon , tho
[12:58] <k1l> actually im testing awesome. if you like configuration and theme it offers alot to config. alot! ;p
[12:59] <lenz> k1l you're right
[13:00] <lenz> http://imgur.com/zabM6pl
[13:01] <ikonia> why are you trying to remove something you've just been told has been changed
[13:02] <k1l> lenz: for more background on what, when, why, and who see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SmartScopes1304Spec and (with more pircs) http://www.webupd8.org/2013/06/unity-smart-scopes-feature-lands-in.html
[13:02] <Pici> ikonia: I think that was just confirmation that one of the pakcages replaces the other?
[13:02] <ikonia> but k1l already said that, and linked to the page showing the packages
[13:03] <lenz> thanks a lot k1l
[14:07] <johnjohn101> two weeks, awesome
[14:15] <SuperLag> lovely... I've done a clean install, did an update.... removed old packages, including kernels
[14:15] <SuperLag> and now, with the Nvidia driver enabled... my screen will not come up
[14:15] <SuperLag> it boots to black
[14:15] <SuperLag> if I turn it off, and force my laptop to use the integrated video... no problem
[14:16] <SuperLag> anyone else seeing this issue?
[14:16] <k1l_> SuperLag: use bumblebee
[14:16] <SuperLag> I've never had to use bumblebee before, why start now?
[14:17] <k1l_> only the nvidia driver cant work with switching from nvidia to intel and back
[14:17] <SuperLag> k1l_: the reason I've been able to avoid is because the BIOS allows me to specify which video I want. Intel, Nvidia, or Optimus.
[14:17] <SuperLag> and I usually just leave it on Nvidia
[14:18] <SuperLag> this issue started with the update to the 3.11.0-11 kernel
[14:18] <SuperLag> How can I install a previous version, after the fact?
[14:40] <SuperLag> The kernel before 3.11.0-11 was 3.11.0-9, correct?
[14:40] <SuperLag> Anyone have that .deb file laying around, they can send my way? Please?
[14:40] <SuperLag> or at least put somewhere I can download it
[15:19] <hp_> how to enable keyboard layout shifting between 2 languages?
[15:24] <hp_> ty
[15:33] <wastrel> hp_: system settings -> region and language -> text entry -> +
[15:34] <hp_> wastrel:i add arabic lang beside english .. but how to shift between them?
[15:35] <wastrel> hp_: system settings -> keyboard -> shortcuts -> typing
[15:38] <hp_> switch to next source || switch to previous || compose key || alternative
[15:38] <hp_> what i can choose of them?
[15:38] <wastrel> aren't there defaults set?
[15:39] <wastrel> you can also go to settings > region and language > text entry
[15:39] <wastrel> i use ctrl-shift-space to switch
[15:39] <wastrel> i only set "switch to next source" because i only have 2
[15:40] <hp_> i use ubuntu 13.10 the new distro
[15:41] <wastrel> yes i'm using 13.10
[15:41] <hp_> there is no region and lang icon in sys setings
[15:42] <wastrel> when you click on language support does it tell you that language support isn't fully installed?
[15:44] <hp_> yes wastrel
[15:44] <hp_> it tell me to download lang package
[20:26] <Riley> hey guys for the 13.10 beta this is the official download page right http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/
[20:30] <trism> Riley: the beta images are actually here http://www.ubuntu.com/testing/download , your link are the newer daily images, although those are usually fine these days (I usually use the daily images myself)
[20:30] <Riley> okay
[20:31] <Riley> i got the amd64bit oversised version
[20:47] <johnjohn101> hard to believe two more weeks
[20:47] <BluesKaj> johnjohn101, if all goes well it will be anticlimactic :)
[20:50] <johnjohn101> BluesKaj: it seems like canonical has put almost all of their effort into touch. 13.10 will be 13.04 with some newer apps
[20:50] <johnjohn101> and kernel
[20:51] <wastrel> ibus is way different
[20:51] <johnjohn101> it is?
[20:51] <BluesKaj> well, I'm on kde here and so far it's gone fairly smoothly
[20:52] <wastrel> folded the configuration into the system configuration thingy
[20:52] <johnjohn101> is it going to cause huge problems?
[20:53] <wastrel> it's going to cause problems as people try to figure out how to configure their input settings
[20:53] <wastrel> hopefully someone's writing documentation since the UI is completely different for configuration
[20:55] <johnjohn101> where is that configuration? i want to see what the difference is.  i don't use the ibus directly and probably never will
[20:56] <wastrel> the lttle "en" thingy in the menubar
[20:56] <johnjohn101> oh, that's what that is.
[20:59] <johnjohn101> wastrel: what is that used for?
[21:03] <wastrel> foreign language input
[21:03] <wastrel> 你好
[21:04] <wastrel> or "typing" for native speakers of those languages i guess :]
[21:04] <johnjohn101> ok, gotcha, probably never use it.
[21:18] <k1l_> with the latest 13.10 updates i cant watch dvb-t with my msi digivox stick with vlc anymore
[21:19] <bekks> kernel module missing?
[21:19] <bekks> thats why I'm building my own kernels since ages :)
[21:21] <k1l_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6189892/  that is the output of vlc -vvv
[21:27] <k1l_> im not sure if its some vlc issue, some qt issue or some kernel issue. the stick 15a4:9016 used to work ootb
[21:28] <bekks> you could try kaffeine as well.
[21:28] <k1l_> hmmm