[00:24] Anyone else with a battery-powered PC - Is the Gnome Power Statistics page showing a broken icon for the battery when it is charging? === kenn_ is now known as kenn [04:05] hello, I've just upgraded to the Saucy beta, and I can't seem to uninstall the Amazon package. It is not in the software center? === mn3m0nic is now known as mn3monic [09:00] just installed yesterdays build of the beta. Seems the installer has a coupple of hickups..where/who would be the best to rant about it? [11:34] heya all... I just installed the 13.10 beta on a Dell Lattitude E6530, but I can't get either Rhythmbox or Banshee to play music. Audio *is* working (I can play mp3 files using gst-launch-1.0) - neither of the GUI players do *anything* though. Any ideas? [11:34] filed a bug on it? [11:35] trying to find if its a known bug first. where should i search? [11:35] launchpad [11:46] pvh_sa: look at the codec the files require [11:50] ikonia, codec's there. switched to using clementine for now [12:21] HI all [12:45] Hey there! I'm on a fresh install of 13.10. How can I remove the amazon scope? [12:45] you can disable it in the privacy settings [12:46] or you remove the shopping lense package [12:46] sudo apt-get remove unity-lense-shopping? [12:47] lenz: unity-lens-shopping [12:47] lens is spelled thusly :) [12:47] There's no such thing. [12:47] !info unity-lens-shopping [12:47] Package unity-lens-shopping does not exist in saucy [12:47] Well I'll be [12:47] yup [12:47] gg canonical [12:47] because that's what I tried [12:47] I didn't think it was in a separate package in saucy. [12:48] Probably can't remove it any more [12:48] WTF Canonical [12:48] I could be wrong though, I'm not running 13.10 here (and even if I was, it wouldn't be with Unity) [12:48] Seriously? [12:48] Pici I thought I'd give unity another try [12:48] lenz: As k1l said, check the privacy settings. [12:48] oh yeah, let the drama begin m( [12:48] lenz: If you need help setting up Arch Linux I'm on this network from 9am to 5.30pm British time every weekday [12:48] Rory: m( [12:49] Rory :D Great idea [12:49] k1l, it worked fine [12:49] I'd feel better removing that package though [12:49] why that? [12:49] do you really believe in FUD? [12:51] No, simply because I don't want it [12:51] i mean im looking just now in which package it sits because i think it should be removable as a package since its the key of a package managment. but just to remove packages because someone made fuzz about it could be spyware even when its not executed at all. i dont think that is a base to use a OS [12:52] Yes, I understand. [12:52] I just wanted to remove the stuff I don't want nor need. [12:53] lenz: what's stopping you ? [12:53] i mean. if you think canonical could have put something in that lens which is dangerous even when its disabled i would think it could be in other packages too. and then i would not use that OS. that is my point. but im looking into it right now, where that package is now [12:53] if not removable then can it be disabled? [12:54] BluesKaj: still shows up in the settings as disabled option [12:54] BluesKaj: yep, in privacy settings [12:54] k1l, I never said that it's spyware/malware or something like that [12:54] you put that in my mouth :) [12:55] lenz: i know where that "it must be removed!!!1111" comes from :/ [12:55] Wow k1l. [12:55] http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?suite=saucy&arch=any&searchon=names&keywords=shopping [12:55] You're quite judgemental [12:55] I was conidering installing Ubuntu with unity on another partition , but Canonical's decision to put retailer links on my desktop by default rubs me the wrong way [12:56] don't use it, it's that simple [12:56] don't like canonicals policy, don't use their product [12:56] seems like they put it into the unity-home-scope [12:57] ikonia, most likely won't [12:57] * alankila thinks gnome 3 is a fine alternative to unity. It can do more than 4 virtual desktops at the very least, and gets even more out of the way. [12:57] I hear good things about cinnamon , tho [12:58] actually im testing awesome. if you like configuration and theme it offers alot to config. alot! ;p [12:59] k1l you're right [13:00] http://imgur.com/zabM6pl [13:01] why are you trying to remove something you've just been told has been changed [13:02] lenz: for more background on what, when, why, and who see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SmartScopes1304Spec and (with more pircs) http://www.webupd8.org/2013/06/unity-smart-scopes-feature-lands-in.html [13:02] ikonia: I think that was just confirmation that one of the pakcages replaces the other? [13:02] but k1l already said that, and linked to the page showing the packages [13:03] thanks a lot k1l [14:07] two weeks, awesome [14:15] lovely... I've done a clean install, did an update.... removed old packages, including kernels [14:15] and now, with the Nvidia driver enabled... my screen will not come up [14:15] it boots to black [14:15] if I turn it off, and force my laptop to use the integrated video... no problem [14:16] anyone else seeing this issue? [14:16] SuperLag: use bumblebee [14:16] I've never had to use bumblebee before, why start now? [14:17] only the nvidia driver cant work with switching from nvidia to intel and back [14:17] k1l_: the reason I've been able to avoid is because the BIOS allows me to specify which video I want. Intel, Nvidia, or Optimus. [14:17] and I usually just leave it on Nvidia [14:18] this issue started with the update to the 3.11.0-11 kernel [14:18] How can I install a previous version, after the fact? [14:40] The kernel before 3.11.0-11 was 3.11.0-9, correct? [14:40] Anyone have that .deb file laying around, they can send my way? Please? [14:40] or at least put somewhere I can download it [15:19] how to enable keyboard layout shifting between 2 languages? [15:24] ty [15:33] hp_: system settings -> region and language -> text entry -> + [15:34] wastrel:i add arabic lang beside english .. but how to shift between them? [15:35] hp_: system settings -> keyboard -> shortcuts -> typing [15:38] switch to next source || switch to previous || compose key || alternative [15:38] what i can choose of them? [15:38] aren't there defaults set? [15:39] you can also go to settings > region and language > text entry [15:39] i use ctrl-shift-space to switch [15:39] i only set "switch to next source" because i only have 2 [15:40] i use ubuntu 13.10 the new distro [15:41] yes i'm using 13.10 [15:41] there is no region and lang icon in sys setings [15:42] when you click on language support does it tell you that language support isn't fully installed? [15:44] yes wastrel [15:44] it tell me to download lang package [20:26] hey guys for the 13.10 beta this is the official download page right http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/ [20:30] Riley: the beta images are actually here http://www.ubuntu.com/testing/download , your link are the newer daily images, although those are usually fine these days (I usually use the daily images myself) [20:30] okay [20:31] i got the amd64bit oversised version [20:47] hard to believe two more weeks [20:47] johnjohn101, if all goes well it will be anticlimactic :) [20:50] BluesKaj: it seems like canonical has put almost all of their effort into touch. 13.10 will be 13.04 with some newer apps [20:50] and kernel [20:51] ibus is way different [20:51] it is? [20:51] well, I'm on kde here and so far it's gone fairly smoothly [20:52] folded the configuration into the system configuration thingy [20:52] is it going to cause huge problems? [20:53] it's going to cause problems as people try to figure out how to configure their input settings [20:53] hopefully someone's writing documentation since the UI is completely different for configuration [20:55] where is that configuration? i want to see what the difference is. i don't use the ibus directly and probably never will [20:56] the lttle "en" thingy in the menubar [20:56] oh, that's what that is. [20:59] wastrel: what is that used for? [21:03] foreign language input [21:03] 你好 [21:04] or "typing" for native speakers of those languages i guess :] [21:04] ok, gotcha, probably never use it. [21:18] with the latest 13.10 updates i cant watch dvb-t with my msi digivox stick with vlc anymore [21:19] kernel module missing? [21:19] thats why I'm building my own kernels since ages :) [21:21] http://paste.ubuntu.com/6189892/ that is the output of vlc -vvv [21:27] im not sure if its some vlc issue, some qt issue or some kernel issue. the stick 15a4:9016 used to work ootb [21:28] you could try kaffeine as well. [21:28] hmmm