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| ev | hi | 15:00 |
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| jodh | you | 15:01 |
| jodh | yo even :) | 15:01 |
| ev | YOU. | 15:01 |
| barry | ewe | 15:01 |
| ev | ha! Well played | 15:01 |
| * slangasek waves | 15:01 | |
| cjwatson | baa | 15:02 |
| slangasek | #startmeeting | 15:06 |
| meetingology | Meeting started Thu Oct 3 15:06:42 2013 UTC. The chair is slangasek. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology. | 15:06 |
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| slangasek | [TOPIC] Lightning round | 15:08 |
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| slangasek | $ echo $(shuf -e barry doko stgraber jodh ev bdmurray slangasek cjwatson xnox stokachu) | 15:08 |
| slangasek | stgraber xnox cjwatson doko barry jodh ev slangasek bdmurray stokachu | 15:08 |
| slangasek | stgraber: you're first :) | 15:09 |
| stgraber | oops, one sec | 15:10 |
| stgraber | Blueprint-related work: | 15:10 |
| stgraber | - Image based updates (BLUEPRINT: foundations-1305-image-based-updates) | 15:10 |
| stgraber | - Updated the specification on the wiki | 15:10 |
| stgraber | - Added phased-percentage support on the server side | 15:10 |
| stgraber | - Extended test coverage (still need tests covering the file generators) | 15:10 |
| stgraber | - Prioritized the work for the system-image clien in 13.10 | 15:10 |
| stgraber | - Implemented the boot time hooks for touch (somewhere in the landing queue) | 15:10 |
| stgraber | - LXC | 15:10 |
| stgraber | - Moved all the bugs from sourceforge to github (well, fixed most of them rather than move them) | 15:10 |
| stgraber | - Code reviews | 15:10 |
| stgraber | - Some discussions with Google on cgroup management | 15:10 |
| stgraber | - Rewrote lxc-info to use the LXC API and show IP addresses by default. | 15:10 |
| stgraber | - Updated all the API based tools to check the user has control access over the container instead of failing in mysterious ways. | 15:10 |
| stgraber | 15:10 | |
| stgraber | Other work: | 15:10 |
| stgraber | - Other | 15:10 |
| stgraber | - Quite a lot of queue reviews | 15:10 |
| stgraber | - Implemented a script to auto-accept unseeded packages into the archive | 15:10 |
| stgraber | 15:10 | |
| stgraber | TODO (hopefully this week): | 15:10 |
| stgraber | - Get to 100% code coverage in the system-image server side tests | 15:10 |
| stgraber | - Write a slightly more user friendly tool to release an image from saucy-proposed to saucy | 15:10 |
| stgraber | - Spend some more time debugging the filesystem unmount sequence, fixing anything that needs fixing | 15:11 |
| stgraber | - LXC upstream work (some more bugs to move to github, website work, ...) | 15:11 |
| stgraber | (DONE) | 15:11 |
| xnox | ah. | 15:12 |
| xnox | skip me please. | 15:12 |
| slangasek | cjwatson: your turn then | 15:13 |
| cjwatson | Launchpad: | 15:13 |
| cjwatson | * Fixed resetting of non-virtual builders (bug 1232131). | 15:13 |
| cjwatson | * Coordinated rollout of buildd slave fixes (bug 993642, bug 1227086). Much cleanup of broken builders following upgrade. | 15:13 |
| ubottu | bug 1232131 in Launchpad itself ""'BuilderVitals' object has no attribute 'failBuilder'" when trying to auto-reset builder" [Critical,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1232131 | 15:13 |
| cjwatson | * Fixed recipe handling regression (bug 1234621) and helping to coordinate another rollout to virtual builders now. | 15:14 |
| ubottu | bug 993642 in launchpad-buildd "Breaks if the build doesn't produce the expected changes file" [Critical,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/993642 | 15:14 |
| ubottu | bug 1227086 in launchpad-buildd "Slaves on 32-bit architectures crash on >2GiB build logs" [Critical,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1227086 | 15:14 |
| cjwatson | * Uploaded apt SRUs (bug 1234691, bug 1234705), to support upgrading Launchpad production to precise. | 15:14 |
| ubottu | bug 1234621 in launchpad-buildd "lp-buildd crashes on recipe failures: too many values to unpack" [Critical,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1234621 | 15:14 |
| cjwatson | Archive: | 15:14 |
| ubottu | bug 1234691 in apt (Ubuntu Precise) "apt-utils: Ignore APT::FTPArchive::Packages::SHA512 option" [High,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1234691 | 15:14 |
| ubottu | bug 1234705 in apt (Ubuntu Raring) "apt-ftparchive writes SHA256 checksums in place of SHA512 in Sources" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1234705 | 15:14 |
| cjwatson | * Arranged for generation of http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/saucy_uninst.txt and started cleaning it up. i386 uninstallables have gone from ~80 to ~30 this week. | 15:14 |
| cjwatson | Click: | 15:14 |
| cjwatson | * Fixed crash when unregistering a preinstalled package (bug 1232066), and a regression caused by that fix (bug 1233280). | 15:14 |
| ubottu | bug 1232066 in click (Ubuntu) "click unregister on preinstalled app causes exception" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1232066 | 15:14 |
| cjwatson | * Implemented fat package support. | 15:14 |
| ubottu | bug 1233280 in click (Ubuntu) "Permission error while removing preinstalled click before installing any other click" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1233280 | 15:14 |
| cjwatson | * Extended "click info" interface to allow printing the manifest for a single package (bug 1232118). | 15:14 |
| ubottu | bug 1232118 in URL Dispatcher "Don't read manifest files directly" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1232118 | 15:14 |
| cjwatson | * Forced unpacked files to be owner-writeable (bug 1232128). | 15:14 |
| ubottu | bug 1232128 in click (Ubuntu) "click package cannot be installed on desktop" [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1232128 | 15:14 |
| cjwatson | Installer: | 15:14 |
| cjwatson | * Fixed partition recipe size calculation when partitions are reused (bug 1197766). | 15:14 |
| ubottu | bug 1197766 in partman-auto (Ubuntu Precise) "Different partition layout after recovery with keep home partition" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1197766 | 15:14 |
| cjwatson | * More work on putting the pieces together for bug 1065281 in precise. | 15:14 |
| ubottu | bug 1065281 in OEM Priority Project quantal "Installer crashed when trying to partition 4k/4k sector hard disks" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1065281 | 15:14 |
| cjwatson | * Improved support for various mount options (bug 978032). | 15:14 |
| ubottu | bug 978032 in partman-ext3 (Ubuntu Precise) "partitioning step doesn't have "discard" as a selectable mount option" [Wishlist,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/978032 | 15:14 |
| cjwatson | Touch: | 15:14 |
| cjwatson | * Rearranged build-initrd.sh in initramfs-tools-ubuntu-touch to stop doing documented-unreliable things with fakeroot. | 15:14 |
| cjwatson | To do: | 15:14 |
| cjwatson | * Review Brian's chroot management branch. | 15:14 |
| cjwatson | * Hunt through GRUB code to try to chase down bug 1229458. | 15:14 |
| ubottu | bug 1229458 in grub2 (Ubuntu) "grubnetx64.efi tftp client does not work over ipv6" [High,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1229458 | 15:14 |
| cjwatson | * Continue chasing down archive inconsistencies. | 15:14 |
| cjwatson | .. | 15:14 |
| slangasek | doko: your turn? | 15:15 |
| xnox | * worked on emulator: | 15:18 |
| xnox | - it boots into TTY now | 15:18 |
| xnox | - published a prebuild copy at http://people.canonical.com/~xnox/emulator.tar.xz | 15:18 |
| xnox | - build fully integrated into phablet branches, one simply does a build for cm_goldfish-eng device. | 15:18 |
| xnox | - NEXT: fix & make android LXC container boot and correctly initialise | 15:18 |
| xnox | * patch piloting today, mostly trying to get interesting things for saucy | 15:18 |
| xnox | * upstart reviews, etc. | 15:18 |
| xnox | .. | 15:18 |
| barry | system-image: lp: #1196991, lp: #1233094, lp: #1215943, lp: #1221844, lp: #1233379, lp: #1231628, lp: #1229807, lp: #1204618, lp: #1215946, lp: #1229710, lp: #1234703. s-i 1.6, 1.7, 1.8 | 15:21 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1196991 in Ubuntu system image "Support the new download dbus service" [Critical,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1196991 | 15:21 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1233094 in system-image (Ubuntu) "Upgrade fail" [Undecided,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1233094 | 15:21 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1215943 in Ubuntu system image "should have a consistent "last upgrade date"" [Critical,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1215943 | 15:21 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1221844 in Ubuntu system image "Support channel aliases tracking" [Critical,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1221844 | 15:21 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1233379 in Ubuntu system image "Reset reactor timeout back to 10m on each non-finishing signal" [Critical,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1233379 | 15:21 |
| barry | done | 15:21 |
| jodh | * upstart: | 15:21 |
| jodh | - Fixed bug 1227212 and bug 1089159 (uploaded as 1.10-0ubuntu3). | 15:21 |
| jodh | - Investigated ssh.override issue on Touch. | 15:21 |
| jodh | - Investigated upstart-local-bridge/upstart-property-watcher issue For | 15:21 |
| ubottu | bug 1227212 in upstart (Ubuntu) "Session logout takes too long" [High,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1227212 | 15:21 |
| jodh | sergiusens. Identified a problem with an lxc pre-start but seems | 15:21 |
| ubottu | bug 1089159 in upstart (Ubuntu) "ADT test-suite failure" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1089159 | 15:21 |
| jodh | there is more work to do there. | 15:21 |
| jodh | * TODO: | 15:21 |
| jodh | - Add extra debug to upstart-local-bridge. | 15:22 |
| jodh | - work on overcoming ptrace limitations issue. | 15:22 |
| xnox | lp: #1231628, lp: #1229807, lp: #1204618, lp: #1215946, lp: #1229710 | 15:22 |
| jodh | 𐤒 | 15:22 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1231628 in Ubuntu system image "Support for phased updates" [Critical,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1231628 | 15:22 |
| xnox | lp: #1234703 | 15:22 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1229807 in Ubuntu system image "auto_download setting not set to '1' by default" [Critical,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1229807 | 15:22 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1204618 in Ubuntu system image "Plumb progress through DBus signals" [Critical,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1204618 | 15:22 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1215946 in Ubuntu system image "_NoUpdate sends buggy UpdateFailed" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1215946 | 15:22 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1229710 in Ubuntu system image "Add autopkgtests" [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1229710 | 15:22 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1234703 in ubuntu-system-settings (Ubuntu) "Checking for new updates puts the service out of order" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1234703 | 15:22 |
| ev | Short week. Was on holiday in ‘merica until Monday. | 15:23 |
| ev | Lots of time spent getting caught up after three weeks away. | 15:23 |
| ev | Mostly still helping Alex bootstrap the CI team. | 15:23 |
| ev | Got up to speed on the Cassandra failures. We had a massive Ceph outage which knocked over Cassandra, which obviously knocked over Daisy. Reports resend every two hours, so I don’t believe we missed out on anything, but I’m still waiting on access to the production database to confirm these sorts of things: | 15:23 |
| ev | https://rt.admin.canonical.com//Ticket/Display.html?id=63860 | 15:23 |
| ev | We are *way* behind on the existing retracer architectures and we still don’t have an armhf retracer for Touch. There appears to have been some work done on this while I was away, but it looks like they dropped it again. I tried following up in #webops, but we are without a vanguard. I’ll touch base with James or Tom later. | 15:23 |
| ev | https://rt.admin.canonical.com//Ticket/Display.html?id=58019 | 15:23 |
| ev | In anticipation of webops requesting it, I’m migrating the error tracker deployment over to juju-deployer. | 15:23 |
| ev | TODO: | 15:23 |
| ev | I need to find a replacement for gnetworkmonitor, as it waking up frequently on busy networks continues to piss people off: | 15:23 |
| ev | https://bugs.launchpad.net/whoopsie/+bug/991481 | 15:23 |
| ev | I now have enough details from Acunu to finish implementing the improvements to the average errors per calendar day calculation. | 15:23 |
| ev | (done) | 15:23 |
| ubottu | Ubuntu bug 991481 in Whoopsie "Constant dns traffic for daisy.ubuntu.com" [High,Confirmed] | 15:23 |
| ev | https://wiki.canonical.com/IncidentReports/2013-09-30-Ceph-Rebalance-Outage is the Ceph outage | 15:24 |
| stgraber | ev: bah, it's only causing around 20% of the requests to my DNS servers ;) | 15:24 |
| ev | hah | 15:24 |
| stgraber | 1 request every 15s per machine on the network and I apparently have a lot of those ;) | 15:25 |
| cjwatson | stgraber: And your own substation? | 15:25 |
| xnox | ev: anti-social =) | 15:25 |
| slangasek | ev: retracers> thanks - I think we need to get this sorted out ASAP, it's alarming that we have no errors data at all about the phone at this stage. | 15:26 |
| ev | slangasek: I couldn't agree more. Any help leaning on them would be greatly appreciated | 15:26 |
| * slangasek nods | 15:26 | |
| xnox | ev: what events do you actually want from gnetworkmonitor? you can have whoopsie e.g. start on net-device-up, then each time a connection is established, you can retry uploading reports. | 15:26 |
| stgraber | cjwatson: ;) I do occasionaly run LXC load testing with around a thousand container on the same machine, all running whoppsie, then those DNS queries are pretty much the only thing I see going through the network ;) | 15:27 |
| ev | Or telling the other Ubuntu Engineering teams to stop taking up all of webops' time | 15:27 |
| slangasek | ev: I would've yelled at last week's sync call about this had I realize it still hadn't moved :/ | 15:27 |
| cjwatson | ev: *cough* | 15:27 |
| ev | xnox: from memory, I'm using gnetworkmonitor to know when we're really connected | 15:27 |
| ev | in my testing CONNECTED_ALL or whatever the NetworkManager state was didn't convey that | 15:27 |
| cjwatson | ev: Hopefully I've finished getting launchpad-buildd upgraded on things for, oh, at least a few weks | 15:27 |
| cjwatson | *weeks | 15:28 |
| cjwatson | (dear GOD is that process painfully manual) | 15:28 |
| slangasek | * helped with getting final beta out last week | 15:28 |
| slangasek | * discussions about how to do freeze management for phone packages so that we're not putting up additional roadblocks to phone development for 13.10 | 15:28 |
| slangasek | * worked with Barry on testing system-image / ubuntu-download-manager so this could land in the phone images \o/ | 15:28 |
| slangasek | * fighting with my network, which has decided to stop passing dhcp requests reliably following a power outage over the weekend | 15:28 |
| slangasek | * picked at the edges of the proposed-migration queue (insighttoolkit4) | 15:28 |
| slangasek | * followed through on SRUs for shim update in 12.04.4 | 15:28 |
| slangasek | * got /etc/adjtime out of our live images, since it's not used in Ubuntu and just causes confusion | 15:28 |
| slangasek | (done) | 15:28 |
| bdmurray | bug triage of update-manager, ubuntu-release-upgrader, ubiquity bugs | 15:29 |
| bdmurray | recreated update-manager bug 1202754 | 15:29 |
| bdmurray | reviewed and merged apt-check (update-notifier) merge proposal speeding it up | 15:29 |
| ubottu | bug 1202754 in update-manager (Ubuntu Saucy) "update-manager crashed with SystemExit in exit(): 0" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1202754 | 15:29 |
| bdmurray | worked on click chroot code | 15:29 |
| xnox | ev: should we refactor start.ubuntu.com/network-connectivity check from ubiquity?! =) yeah, supporting states in upstart would help here, as upon network check we could run a quick check against start.ubuntu.com and emit the state of "connected" | 15:29 |
| bdmurray | worked on ubuntu-release-upgrader not needing gksu | 15:29 |
| bdmurray | uploaded procps bug fix for bug 1150413 | 15:29 |
| xnox | for those jobs that care about htat. | 15:29 |
| ubottu | bug 1150413 in procps (Ubuntu Raring) "Cannot allocate memory if process owned by user with large number of groups" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1150413 | 15:29 |
| bdmurray | tested kernels for bug 1218004 | 15:29 |
| ubottu | bug 1218004 in linux (Ubuntu Saucy) "Apple Wireless Trackpad causes kernel oops" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1218004 | 15:29 |
| bdmurray | done | 15:29 |
| stokachu | bug 1211876 needs upload, bug 995719 needs sru approval (done) | 15:29 |
| ubottu | bug 1211876 in keepalived (Ubuntu Raring) "keepalived reload buggy due to improper ipv4 address comparison" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1211876 | 15:29 |
| ubottu | bug 995719 in puppet (Ubuntu Precise) "process_name.rb removed in 2.7.11 but still provided by puppet-common" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/995719 | 15:29 |
| ev | xnox: yes - networkmanager has support for something like this, but the tin foil hat crowd nixed it the last time matthieu brought it up | 15:30 |
| ev | if memory serves | 15:30 |
| slangasek | xnox: we could reimplement everything in Qt and use its network checking apis, I hear those work a treat | 15:30 |
| slangasek | (by which I mean, bug #1233435) | 15:30 |
| ev | xnox: what I'd really like is an API that I could register an address with. "Let me know when we're connected and you get this response from this URL" | 15:30 |
| stokachu | note: 1211876 is a high visibility bug going to mark it as high | 15:30 |
| ubottu | bug 1233435 in ubuntu-download-manager "u-d-m downloads stall if the network configuration changes" [Critical,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1233435 | 15:30 |
| ev | cjwatson: *belated fist shaking* | 15:31 |
| slangasek | anyone want to sponsor stokachu's SRU for bug #1211876? | 15:32 |
| ubottu | bug 1211876 in keepalived (Ubuntu Raring) "keepalived reload buggy due to improper ipv4 address comparison" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1211876 | 15:32 |
| slangasek | stgraber, maybe you could have a look? | 15:32 |
| stokachu | bdmurray: would you mind looking over bug 995719 for approval? | 15:33 |
| ubottu | bug 995719 in puppet (Ubuntu Precise) "process_name.rb removed in 2.7.11 but still provided by puppet-common" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/995719 | 15:33 |
| bdmurray | stokachu: I'll have a look today | 15:34 |
| stokachu | bdmurray: thanks man | 15:34 |
| slangasek | stokachu: bug #995719, you say there should be no regression. So it's not possible that something will be relying on this behavior? | 15:34 |
| ubottu | bug 995719 in puppet (Ubuntu Precise) "process_name.rb removed in 2.7.11 but still provided by puppet-common" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/995719 | 15:34 |
| stokachu | slangasek: nothing should be calling it directly, think of it more like a background job keeping up the process names | 15:35 |
| stgraber | slangasek: yep, can do | 15:35 |
| slangasek | stokachu: so nothing can be relying on those process name changes? | 15:36 |
| stokachu | slangasek: nothing in puppet does, no | 15:36 |
| slangasek | well, but what about things outside of puppet? | 15:36 |
| slangasek | these are the questions we ask for SRUs :) | 15:37 |
| stokachu | its not an external api so nothing would be calling it directly | 15:37 |
| slangasek | but something external to puppet could be relying on the process name updates | 15:38 |
| stokachu | everyone ive interacted with either manually deletes this or has a puppet config that ensures that file doesn't exist | 15:38 |
| stokachu | even IS does it | 15:38 |
| stgraber | sto they all look good to me, will upload those 3 in a minute | 15:38 |
| stgraber | stokachu: ^ | 15:38 |
| stokachu | stgraber: thanks man | 15:38 |
| slangasek | stokachu: that doesn't mean that /everyone/ does it, just the people who are smart enough to be in your friends list :) we have to consider the SRU implications for those not following best practices, too | 15:39 |
| stokachu | slangasek: yea im trying to think of what kind of use case would do this | 15:39 |
| stokachu | slangasek: to help me pinpoint where there might be a problem | 15:39 |
| slangasek | anyway, we can follow up on that out of band | 15:39 |
| stokachu | do we have any puppet experts here? | 15:40 |
| stokachu | ok | 15:40 |
| slangasek | I'd try the server team for puppet expertise | 15:40 |
| stokachu | ok ill ask around and see | 15:40 |
| slangasek | [TOPIC] AOB | 15:41 |
| === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: AOB | ||
| slangasek | any other topics? | 15:41 |
| stgraber | stokachu: all uploaded | 15:41 |
| stokachu | stgraber: thanks again | 15:41 |
| stokachu | stgraber: want me to unassign sponsors now? | 15:43 |
| slangasek | #endmeeting | 15:43 |
| === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Ubuntu Meeting Grounds | Calendar/Scheduled meetings: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/calendar | Logs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs | Meetingology documentation: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology | ||
| meetingology | Meeting ended Thu Oct 3 15:43:34 2013 UTC. | 15:43 |
| meetingology | Minutes (wiki): http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2013/ubuntu-meeting.2013-10-03-15.06.moin.txt | 15:43 |
| meetingology | Minutes (html): http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2013/ubuntu-meeting.2013-10-03-15.06.html | 15:43 |
| stgraber | thanks! | 15:43 |
| slangasek | thanks, all! | 15:43 |
| barry | thanks! | 15:43 |
| xnox | cheers. | 15:45 |
| jodh | ta | 15:47 |
| czajkowski | aloha | 17:01 |
| cprofitt | hello | 17:02 |
| sabdfl | hi all | 17:03 |
| czajkowski | I'm not sure I can chair as in a work thingy atm | 17:04 |
| czajkowski | but am here | 17:04 |
| sabdfl | i'll chair till :30 :) | 17:05 |
| czajkowski | #startmeeting | 17:06 |
| meetingology | Meeting started Thu Oct 3 17:06:31 2013 UTC. The chair is czajkowski. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology. | 17:06 |
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| czajkowski | #chair sabdfl cprofitt pleia2 czajkowski | 17:06 |
| meetingology | Current chairs: cprofitt czajkowski pleia2 sabdfl | 17:06 |
| pleia2 | o/ | 17:06 |
| czajkowski | aloha and welcome to this weeks community council catch up :) | 17:06 |
| sabdfl | o/ | 17:06 |
| cprofitt | hello | 17:06 |
| sabdfl | nice to see you all again | 17:07 |
| pleia2 | so we didn't send a reminder email to kubuntu folks, so I think they might not make it | 17:07 |
| czajkowski | #link https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommunityCouncilAgenda | 17:07 |
| czajkowski | #topic Kubuntu catch up | 17:07 |
| === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Kubuntu catch up | ||
| czajkowski | anyone from Kubuntu around | 17:07 |
| czajkowski | ScottK: Riddell ping? | 17:07 |
| sabdfl | nice to see the 10k taiwanese school deployment of kubuntu derivative ezgo recently | 17:09 |
| cprofitt | +1 | 17:09 |
| pleia2 | cool, I hadn't seen that | 17:09 |
| pleia2 | http://dot.kde.org/2013/10/02/ezgo-free-and-open-source-software-taiwans-schools | 17:10 |
| czajkowski | impressive | 17:10 |
| sabdfl | yes, even aseigo was pleased ;) | 17:10 |
| sabdfl | shall we invite AOB in the interim, and wrap at :30 if we have no response from #kubuntu? | 17:11 |
| pleia2 | #topic Any other business | 17:12 |
| === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Any other business | ||
| * elfy is hanging about waiting for AOB :) | 17:12 | |
| pleia2 | http://www.ubuntu.com/about/about-ubuntu/governance has been updated for accuracy \o/ | 17:12 |
| sabdfl | go ahead elfy | 17:12 |
| elfy | can we get some help with a couple of RT's - one of which I think I cc'd CC yesterday | 17:13 |
| elfy | https://rt.ubuntu.com/Ticket/Display.html?id=22858 | 17:13 |
| sabdfl | yes, saw the CC | 17:13 |
| elfy | https://rt.ubuntu.com/Ticket/Display.html?id=22990 | 17:13 |
| cprofitt | elfy: I believe czajkowski already pinged someone on them | 17:13 |
| elfy | one of the ones I cc'd I've seen movement on | 17:13 |
| elfy | cprofitt: that'll be why then :) | 17:13 |
| elfy | the remember me one is the real pain for people | 17:13 |
| elfy | I think what really upsets us is we never get any response till we start pushing via you | 17:14 |
| * cprofitt nods | 17:14 | |
| elfy | though I will say when we had a few of them in our irc channel - they were great to work with | 17:14 |
| elfy | czajkowski - thanks for doing that :) | 17:15 |
| pleia2 | elfy: it's not just you, IS seems to have quite the backlog | 17:15 |
| cprofitt | I think it is a metter of building a good relationship with them... which it sounds like you are via the irc | 17:15 |
| pleia2 | so it takes nudges to prioritize | 17:15 |
| elfy | yep I understand there are 60 minutes in an hour :D | 17:15 |
| pleia2 | and I think the forums stuff is genuinely hard :) | 17:15 |
| elfy | pleia2: I don't doubt it | 17:16 |
| elfy | but as I said in the mail - elmo and I were discussing trying to get external help | 17:16 |
| elfy | then that's as far as it went ;) | 17:16 |
| * pleia2 nods | 17:16 | |
| elfy | I'm sure that if there are people around who can help they will | 17:16 |
| czajkowski | elfy: elmo is but one member of the IS team and does tend to be the firzt one pinged when in fact it may fall to someone else to fix | 17:17 |
| pleia2 | if they are interested in open sourcing their sysadmin operation I can offer some pointers ;) | 17:17 |
| elfy | but mostly it's about communication - #can-sys isn't really somewhere to go chat with people | 17:17 |
| czajkowski | so it's always the best point of contact either | 17:17 |
| czajkowski | I'm glad it's getting fixed | 17:17 |
| sabdfl | word from IS is: | 17:17 |
| sabdfl | sabdfl: we're currently looking at Ubuntu RT #22950 for the forums folks | 17:17 |
| sabdfl | sabdfl: because we were told that was the priority; I'll make sure 22858 and 22990 are up next | 17:17 |
| elfy | czajkowski: I understand he's not the only one - but he was the one talking to me :) | 17:18 |
| elfy | sabdfl: ok - thanks - can we make sure that the next one they look at for us is the 22858 one then please | 17:18 |
| sabdfl | ok | 17:18 |
| elfy | thanks | 17:19 |
| elfy | that's the one we catch most flak for at the moment | 17:19 |
| sabdfl | ok, ack'd in that sequence | 17:19 |
| sabdfl | that team tends to flatline around release | 17:19 |
| sabdfl | but at least the sequence is agreed | 17:20 |
| sabdfl | that a wrap elfy? | 17:20 |
| sabdfl | AOB? | 17:20 |
| elfy | yep | 17:20 |
| pleia2 | just so the community is kept updated - we're wrapping up the LoCo Council appointment process in the CC, so we should have news soon :) | 17:20 |
| elfy | thanks all | 17:20 |
| pleia2 | and speaking of appointments, we're still looking for nominees to be on the CC itself: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/community-announce/2013-September/000013.html | 17:20 |
| sabdfl | and the TB, iirc | 17:21 |
| pleia2 | so if you're great, or know of someone who is great, apply | 17:21 |
| pleia2 | has the TB sent out their call for nominees yet? | 17:21 |
| pleia2 | doesn't look like it, I'll make sure it makes it to planet when they do | 17:22 |
| pleia2 | that's all I have AOB-wise | 17:24 |
| sabdfl | doesn't look like we'll get Kubuntu feedback this week | 17:24 |
| sabdfl | i'm going to step afk in prep for a call - good to see you all again | 17:25 |
| cprofitt | thanks sabdfl | 17:25 |
| === sabdfl is now known as sabdfl-afk | ||
| pleia2 | nice to see you, sabdfl :) | 17:25 |
| pleia2 | we've chatted with kubuntu folks throughout the cycle, so I don't know that there is anything pressing there, and they know where to find us :) | 17:26 |
| cprofitt | +1 | 17:26 |
| sabdfl-afk | (oh and here's to an excellent 13.10 in two weeks - am enjoying the phone and saucy desktop too, hope our various flavours are feeling good about the home straight) | 17:26 |
| pleia2 | cheer | 17:26 |
| pleia2 | :) | 17:26 |
| pleia2 | ok, I think we can wrap this up then | 17:27 |
| pleia2 | thanks everyone | 17:27 |
| pleia2 | #endmeeting | 17:28 |
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| meetingology | Meeting ended Thu Oct 3 17:28:21 2013 UTC. | 17:28 |
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| cprofitt | thanks pleia2 | 17:28 |
| cprofitt | thanks czajkowski | 17:28 |
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