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hadsThe banks don't approve of it but don't seem to be concerned enough about it to enforce anything. I've never used it and don't plan to.01:26
hadsAirNZ use either that or card fees which are a complete rip off. I usually fly on other airlines.01:27
olly_i guess just allowing online banking payments probably would mean a lot of hassle handling payments with incorrect reference details for the merchant02:13
olly_presumably they also get a confirmation from poli that the payment has been made02:13
Golly_: yeah, thats why I was saying more like the BPAY system (which is instant already) but with improvements for merchant checking payment was made02:42
Giirc from my time in Australia the system was basically, login to Internet Banking, hit the BPay link/icon/whatever, type in the merchant number, then it asked for exactly what was required for the payment to go through, click the next button, and payment was made02:44
GAll it'd need is for a system for airlines/whomever to be able to automatically check that incoming payments totally the amount have been made using the reference numbers, and confirm the seats/sale02:45
G(afterall, most people know how to browse to their bank's internet banking site.02:46
olly_yeah, it should be hard to come up with a sane system02:46
olly_should NOT02:47
olly_interbank payments are usually next day here currently aren't they?02:47
GBut alas, the banks seem more interested in sticking with the 15+ digit account numbers for any sort of payments and fiddly text boxes for reference numbers, or pre-arranged agreements on a bank-by-bank basis to make it slightly easier02:48
G(but more confusing)02:48
Golly_: most are, but they are changing the system to hourly clearing02:48
G(i think clearing is the right term(?))02:48
olly_probably02:50
Gbut yeah, it just needs some people to put their heads together and come up with a better solution02:52
hadsASB, KiwiBank currently clear payments hourly. Some others do too I think.02:58
hadsASB also allows you to pay people by phone number and Facebook and things with their mobile app. Seem to be quite forward thinking in some areas.02:58
olly_not sure i really want facebook integration from my bank03:02
hadsNo, neither. I haven't tried it as I'm not on Facebook but I guess it's a pretty big market to tap.03:02
olly_though i guess it beats having to type in some random account number if you do03:03
hadsI guess it's some sort of store-notify-forward type system.03:03
olly_i wonder if it helps prevent fraud, though people tend to accept friend requests pretty readily03:03
hadsSeems to be info here; https://www.asb.co.nz/mobilebanking/ Looks like you can pay by email address too.03:05
olly_seems like it sends the recipient a notice, so kind of like paypal in that regard03:08
GANZ also have a system like that (based on their TV ads)04:37
Gunless that was in Australia and I remember it from the Australian ads  (problem with the same brand & ads in two countries)04:37
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