[00:00] <loa> compdoc, he have empty /etc/resolv.conf
[00:00] <Magyarok> and said try sudo apt-get update, so I did. Now it wont update either
[00:00] <k1l_> !webmin | Magyarok
[00:01] <k1l_> so the mistake was to install webmin in the first place
[00:01] <Magyarok> well I did not know this, im new here.
[00:01] <Magyarok> I dont know how to fix it.
[00:02] <TauNeutrino> hello
[00:02] <TauNeutrino> another question
[00:02] <TauNeutrino> is it possible to bundle two umts usb sticks??
[00:02] <Magyarok> compdoc, can you help me?
[00:03] <bekks> TauNeutrino: yes, but as already been clued in #ubuntu-de - the answers stay the same.
[00:03] <compdoc> Magyarok, I dont use webmin, but ppl on the mailing list seem to think webmin is ok. You might try asking there. we might be able to help with dns, if thats the only issue
[00:04] <Magyarok> I think thats the only issue
[00:04] <cross20> indo here
[00:05] <bekks> Magyarok: then which kind of dns issue do you have?
[00:05] <compdoc> Magyarok, can you pastebin  /etc/resolv.conf     but change personal info, if any?
[00:05] <colton__> anyone recommend hacking book using linux?
[00:05] <colton__> anyone recommend hacking book using linux?
[00:06] <k1l_> colton__: no hacking and illegal stuff in here
[00:06] <e10byagrue> colton__: what do you mean by "hacking"?
[00:06] <TauNeutrino> :) aha
[00:06] <TauNeutrino> hm
[00:06] <TauNeutrino> and what answer? yes
[00:07] <Magyarok> compdoc, pastebin.com/EwhheGKV
[00:07] <Magyarok> bekks, I dont know
[00:07] <bekks> Magyarok: without a detailed error description, it is impossible to help you...
[00:08] <Magyarok> I just installed ubuntu server about 15 minutes ago, I dont know how to find out
[00:08]  * ThalinVien is back from [] - 383544h:8m:33s away
[00:08] <bekks> Magyarok: Then whats happening? How do you know you have a DNS issue?
[00:08] <Magyarok> apparently my resolv.conf is empty?
[00:08] <Magyarok> also I cant update
[00:09] <colton__> Does anyone know where is network interface files for ubuntu? Ive used centos and fedora so far so I cannot located /etc/sysconfig/network-interfaces/ in ubuntu
[00:09] <bekks> !details | Magyarok
[00:09] <bekks> colton__: what are you going to do?
[00:09] <TauNeutrino> ?
[00:09] <k1l_> !interfaces | colton__
[00:09] <k1l_> !network | colton__
[00:10] <Magyarok> bekks:Ubuntu server 12.04.3 ...... sudo apt-get update wont work
[00:10] <k1l_> hmm, that triggers are not what i wanted. /etc/network/interfaces is it in ubuntu colton__
[00:10] <colton__> thank you!
[00:10] <bekks> Magyarok: why not? whats happening when doing what? full output in a pastebin please.
[00:12] <Magyarok> bekks:http://pastebin.com/qntpW1iP
[00:12] <Magyarok> bekks:  also, my /ect/resolv.conf is empty
[00:12] <bekks> Magyarok: Then whats your Ubuntu version?
[00:13] <Magyarok> 12.04.3
[00:14] <Magyarok> bekks: also when I ping, unknown host comes up
[00:14] <bekks> Magyarok: then whats the output of: sudo ifconfig -a; sudo netstat -rn; cat /etc/resolv.conf;
[00:14] <bekks> Magyarok: Put it into a pastebin, again
[00:17] <Magyarok> bekks:pastebin.com/XmFq1X3r
[00:17] <loa> bekks, you have super power teaching people make good question.
[00:17] <loa> s
[00:19] <bekks> Magyarok: Is this a vm?
[00:19] <Magyarok> Nope.
[00:19] <Magyarok> By vm meaning virtual machine?
[00:20] <bekks> Magyarok: yes.
[00:20] <bekks> Magyarok: How did you setup the IP?
[00:20] <Magyarok> Then no its a physical desktop.
[00:21] <Magyarok> Ioa helped me with that
[00:21] <loa> show him your /etc/network/interfaces
[00:21] <loa> http://pastebin.com/rJE8x9Ln
[00:21] <bekks> loa: good point
[00:22] <bekks> Magyarok: Whats your /etc/network/interfaces then?
[00:22] <Magyarok> now i cant connect to it with SSH
[00:23] <bekks> Magyarok: So what did you do meanwhile?
[00:23] <Magyarok> Nothing
[00:23] <compdoc> webmin
[00:23] <loa> Magyarok, start your eth0
[00:23] <loa> sudo if-up eth0
[00:23] <loa> then try ssh again
[00:23] <bekks> Magyarok: "nothing" will not cause your ssh to be not working.
[00:24] <Magyarok> well I did nothing....
[00:24] <loa> Magyarok, you don't restart machine?
[00:24] <k1l_> Magyarok: you installed noobish software that is known for causing alot of problems
[00:24] <DarkAceLaptop> alot is not a word
[00:24] <loa> i forgot add auto eth0 in his config
[00:24] <loa> so maybe it is problem
[00:24] <bekks> loa: yes it is.
[00:24] <loa> after restart eth0 don't start
[00:25] <Magyarok> It said sudo if-up eth0 command not found
[00:25] <TJ-> Magyarok: "ifup"
[00:26] <Magyarok> it says eth0 is already configured
[00:27] <Magyarok> bekks:
[00:28] <Magyarok> bekks:http://pastebin.com/rJE8x9Ln
[00:28] <Magyarok> k1l_:could you help me fix it please?
[00:29] <Xerofyte> Hello All. Can Anyone please let me know how to Install plasma wallpaper addon in KDE 4.11. I Installed it on Ubuntu 12.04 LTS
[00:32] <Tylertwo> Xerofyte: What have you tried already?
[00:32] <Magyarok> bekks:you still here?
[00:33] <Xerofyte> Tylertwo: i tried  sudo apt-get install plasma-wallpaper-addon
[00:33] <Magyarok> ?
[00:34] <Tylertwo> Xerofyte: And you're saying that worked, but it isn't displaying with KDE?
[00:34] <Dr_Willis_> !info plasma-wallpaper-addon
[00:34] <Dr_Willis_> plasma-wallpapers-addons - additional wallpaper plugins for Plasma
[00:34] <loa> Magyarok, echo "nameserver 8.8.8.8" | sudo tee > /etc/resolv.conf
[00:35] <loa> Magyarok, you can use sudo chattr +i /etc/resolv.conf
[00:35] <loa> but it is very ditry solution
[00:35] <loa> VERY VERY
[00:35] <Dr_Willis_> !resolv.conf
[00:35] <Magyarok> I would rather fix it
[00:35] <Xerofyte> Tylertwo: I guess its not. I want to have the Live Wallpapers. I googled for it and I found someone said to get plasma wallpaper addon
[00:36] <TJ-> Magyarok: I never saw your original problem description, so in the dark here
[00:36] <Xerofyte> Dr_Willis: yes as the name ADDON means additional plugins
[00:37] <Tylertwo> Xerofyte: So what happend when you did "apt-get install..."? Any error messages?
[00:37] <Magyarok> TJ-:I am having all kinds of problems with dns, my resolv.conf is empty, and my /etc/network/interfaces is messed up
[00:38] <Xerofyte> Tylertwo: Yes brother.. "Unable to locate package plasma-wallpaper-addon"
[00:38] <Magyarok> TJ-:Can I PM you about it?
[00:39] <TJ-> Magyarok: Best to keep it in channel, so others can participate.
[00:39] <Magyarok> They did, but they left me hanging
[00:40] <Xerofyte> Tylertwo: Let me be more specific, I want to have the DreamDesktop Live wallpapers
[00:40] <Magyarok> Ive been trying to fix this for the past hour
[00:41] <Tylertwo> Xerofyte: Maybe it's called "plasma-wallpapers-addons"? Did you make a typo?
[00:41] <loa> I think if you read this carefully you will not have questions at all.
[00:41] <loa> https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/serverguide/network-configuration.html
[00:41] <loa> and maybe man network
[00:41] <Xerofyte> Tylertwo: Yes i did.. Same error message as above.
[00:42] <loa> and maybe do clean installation of ubuntu, becouse maybe webmin messed all your system.
[00:43] <Tylertwo> Xerofyte: What about if you type "apt-cache show plasma-wallpapers-addons"
[00:43] <TJ-> Magyarok: /etc/resolv.conf should be created by resolvconf automatically based on scripts in /etc/resolvconf/update{-libc,}.d/  . If you're using NetworkManager it'll expect to use dnsmasq to provide DNS service, via 127.0.0.1 or 127.0.1.1
[00:43] <Xerofyte> Tylertwo: Lemme Try this
[00:44] <TJ-> oh, he's gone!
[00:45] <Xerofyte> Tylertwo: I got a Bunch of Lines.. Should I Pastebin it..?
[00:46] <Tylertwo> Xerofyte: No, was just wondering if it would list info about the package or if it would say it could not locate the package.
[00:46] <Xerofyte> Tylertwo: I guess it actually located it and Its kdeplasma-addons. Am i Right?
[00:47] <Tylertwo> Xerofyte: Sounds like it.
[00:48] <Xerofyte> Tylertwo: Let me try it and get back.
[00:48] <niceman20> Hi all
[00:49] <Tylertwo> Xerofyte: ok
[00:51] <Xerofyte> Tylertwo: The Installation is on the go. Just wanted to Know one thing. How to Delete or remove all those unnecessary packages/PPAs/Repos which are already installed and are consuming disk space.
[00:51] <bekks> Xerofyte: Install the minimal iso - and just install what you want. By default, there are no PPA used.
[00:52] <Xerofyte> bekks: Ok. Suppose when we do "sudo apt-get install XYZ" it just installs what we want. No setup files are stored in the Disk. Right.?
[00:53] <bekks> Xerofyte: there is nothing like "setup files". Packages (.deb) are stored on disk as needed, since they are "extracted" for installing a specific package. you can use apt-get to remove them after installing a package.
[00:54] <Xerofyte> bekks: thanks for the info Bro.
[00:56] <hoodigoodi> I'm trying to set up dual boot on laptop with ubuntu cd on pc with win7. Was going fine, from cd, following instructions as per here www.tinyurl.com/cglyb3e. Created the free space but then decided i got the size wrong. I could not resize from the cd so went back and expanded the drive in windows to get back to scratch but now when from the cd I try to create free space again, it tells me 'an error occurred while writing the the chan
[00:56] <lduros> I'm trying to run: echo "150" > /sys/class/backlight/gmux_backlight/brightness from my .profile at startup
[00:56] <lduros> obviously this isn't working as is, and when in the terminal i have to first run "sudo -i"
[00:56] <lduros> to get su privileges before I can run it. Even running it as sudo [echo command] won't work
[00:57] <pfifo> !es | pfifo
[00:59] <MixX> lduruos maybe try doing a chmod on the file first
[00:59] <Xerofyte> !sudo | Xerofyte
[01:00] <loa> lduros, using sudo you you can do this echo "150" | tee > /sys/class/backlight/gmux_backlight/brightness
[01:00] <pfifo> lduros: you need to use tee 'echo "150" | sudo tee /path/to/whatever' but you may need to add the NOPASSWD option to your sudoers
[01:00] <loa> pfifo, lol
[01:00] <bekks> lduros: dont listen to him, it wont work.
[01:01] <lduros> to him, or to them?
[01:01] <bekks> lduros: putting tee into sudoers will allow ALL users to to randomly put stuff into files.
[01:01] <lduros> ok
[01:01] <lduros> so is there a way to do this?
[01:01] <loa> bekks, who said add tee to sudoers :)
[01:02] <bekks> lduros: use /etc/rc.local to issue your command: echo "this" > /this/file
[01:02] <loa> just make script for that and add to sudoers.
[01:02] <bekks> ouch.
[01:02] <pfifo> loa: I said add NOPASSWD for your user not to tee for all users
[01:02] <bekks> the user may edit random stuff in that script and will be allowed to execute it as root.
[01:03] <darkpassenger> How can i load a kernel image manually from grub command line ? whsts the command
[01:03] <bekks> pfifo: NOPASSWD for tee is a huge security risk.
[01:03] <pfifo> bekks: no your misunderstanding, thats not what im saying
[01:03] <bwayne> NOPASSWD for a single user for a single command is FINE.
[01:04] <sh4kaunt0ld> can some one help me??
[01:04] <bekks> pfifo: you did. since "tee" is the command requiring sudo privileges.
[01:04] <bekks> bwayne: NOT for a script. The user may issue harmfull commands and they will be executed using sudo.
[01:04] <pfifo> bekks im not saying to add nopasswd to ALL users, ONLY to the one user
[01:04] <bekks> pfifo: Even ONE user may compromise the system.
[01:04] <loa> bwayne, maybe for very special bash script it is, but not for tee.
[01:04] <Psil0Cybin> hey guys anyone know what i can do i am using the ath9k driver for wifi, and the new kernal causes a lazy driver....i get packet loss, and my wifi drops my connection while on other network it works fine, and on other machines it works flawlessly.
[01:04] <Psil0Cybin> this never used to happen
[01:05] <Psil0Cybin> just recently, i dont knwo what i do i tried everything that was suggested on the forums
[01:05] <pfifo> bekks: im pretty sure he can already compromise his system if thats what he wanted :)
[01:05] <sh4kaunt0ld>  am trying to install Afla wifi adapter on a Debian based Distro but cant get it working ,plz help?+
[01:05] <Psil0Cybin> it looks like alot of people are having the same issues as me....but i dont know what the fix is, because i tried everything on the forums and still
[01:05] <Psil0Cybin> when i idle my wifi drops my conncetion
[01:05] <Psil0Cybin> or when im downloading big files
[01:06] <bekks> pfifo: that may apply - but it does not justify to knowingly ignore basic security guidelines.
[01:06] <loa> Psil0Cybin, maybe it is some kind of powersave?
[01:06] <Psil0Cybin> i turned off the power save, and still nothing
[01:06] <bwayne> bekks: yeah. the USER can issue harmful commands at any time. duh
[01:06] <Psil0Cybin> i followed the guide to do it
[01:06] <Psil0Cybin> because some people said that was the problem
[01:06] <Psil0Cybin> but it did not work :( loa
[01:07] <Psil0Cybin> i have to consatntly run
[01:07] <darkpassenger> is there a way to load a particular kernel with grub what is the command ?
[01:07] <Psil0Cybin> sudo service network-manager restart
[01:07] <bekks> bwayne: then why dont you work as root all the time? thats what you are saying basically.
[01:07] <Psil0Cybin> to get it connected again and working
[01:07] <pfifo> bekks, ok point taken. I can understand your point of view
[01:07] <qin> Psil0Cybin: set txpower?
[01:08] <bwayne> bekks: that's idiotic. you're idiotic.
[01:08] <loa> darkpassenger, recovery mode in grub menu?
[01:08] <bekks> bwayne: Dont get personal. Watch your language. Ignore set.
[01:09] <Psil0Cybin> qin: i did options ath9k nohwcrypt=1 within the wifi config file that was suggested on forum and also sudo iwconfig wlan0 power off
[01:09] <bekks> pfifo: I already offered a secure alternative onto the solution of his distinct problem as well.
[01:09] <Psil0Cybin> it says Power Management: off
[01:09] <Psil0Cybin> when i run iwconfig wlan0 qin
[01:10] <bekks> !enter | Psil0Cybin
[01:11] <pfifo> bekks: rc.local is a great place for running things a root, Im assuming here that he needed this in his profile for whatever reason
[01:11] <bekks> pfifo: yeah, thats the way to go for his problem.
[01:12] <qin> Psil0Cybin: did you try to keep connection alive with: while [ 1]; do ping -c 3; sleep 360; done; ??
[01:12] <bekks> pfifo: setting the power management whatever of his display doesnt require user privs, but root ones.
[01:12] <Psil0Cybin> yes if im on the comptuer or downloading a torrent, the connection is kept alive
[01:12] <Psil0Cybin> but the second i stop pinging, i get disconnected after a few seconds or minutes
[01:12] <qin> Psil0Cybin: ping something
[01:12] <bekks> pfifo: that will cause it to be in effect for all users staring at the display.
[01:12] <hoodigoodi> Has anyone come across this?  'an error occurred while writing the the change to the storage devices. the operation has been aborted' any ideas? I'm trying to set up dual boot on laptop with ubuntu cd on pc with win7. Was going fine, from cd, following instructions as per here www.tinyurl.com/cglyb3e. Created the free space but then decided i got the size wrong. I could not resize from the cd so went back and expanded the drive in wi
[01:13] <Psil0Cybin> qin: yes but i dont always want to be pinging and wasting packets if i can find a way to fix this issue...from what i am reading online it is the kernal version that is causing this rpboelm, like alot of people are having this problem but no ones advice, or own solution
[01:13] <Psil0Cybin> helps me
[01:13] <Psil0Cybin> i also am worried about building the driver from source because i want it to be updated..through the repositories, instead of keeping an eye on it.
[01:14] <qin> Psil0Cybin: ping router?
[01:14] <Psil0Cybin> i guess but you think thats my only solution?
[01:14] <pfifo> Psil0Cybin: you can always buy another wifi card with better linux support
[01:15] <Psil0Cybin> qin: do you think this will get fixed, or should i build from source? or use a older kernal version?
[01:15] <vastkahuna> How do I check if my wi-fi network is set to public or home?
[01:16] <Psil0Cybin> pfifo: yea i could i just wanted to use the one in my laptop and save some money
[01:16] <Psil0Cybin> sigh
[01:16] <loa> Psil0Cybin, i will use older and stable for your case kernel.
[01:18] <darkpassenger> loa, yeah
[01:19] <Psil0Cybin> okay i guess
[01:19] <Psil0Cybin> this just stinks
[01:19] <Psil0Cybin> it used tow ork two weeks ago
[01:20] <pfifo> Psil0Cybin: you should still have the kernel you were using from before, unless you did a fresh install
[01:21] <loa> question in time, how i can delete old kernels if current is ok?
[01:21] <Psil0Cybin> yea i do
[01:21] <loa> what is ubuntu way?
[01:21] <Psil0Cybin> but is it safe to use older kernals?
[01:22] <pfifo> loa: dpkg -P <package name> (something like linux-image-3.2.1337.666)
[01:22] <loa> Psil0Cybin, you can check security advisories for you old kernel and decide is it safe for you or not.
[01:22] <pfifo> Psil0Cybin: I generally use what works, but they did update the kernel for a reason
[01:23] <qin> loa: sudo apt-get autoremove; sudo apt-get autoremove
[01:23] <loa> qin, two times? or you misstyped?
[01:25] <pfifo> loa: autoremove doesnt remove old kernels
[01:26] <loa> pfifo, it is hard remove by hands.
[01:26] <loa> i made dpkg -l | grep kernel and see many different crap
[01:26] <loa> for example old nvidia modules
[01:26] <loa> for older kernels
[01:27] <pfifo> loa: dpkg -l | grep linux-image
[01:27] <qin> loa: yeah, autoclean is second, mostly for debs removal
[01:28] <pfifo> loa: really theres no reason to remove the old kernels, maybe for freeing up disk space
[01:29] <qin> pfifo: there is not much reason to keep them either
[01:29] <tylertwo> pfifo: They take up a lot of space, and there's a lot of them. I approve of removing them.
[01:29] <Psil0Cybin> pfifo and qin so do you guys think i should just stick to the old kernals? or what should i do, what would you guys do? would you install the driver from source? or.....i just hate that it worked two weeks ago and now is having problems, it was so stable before :( i didnt think this could happen again, such a stinker.
[01:30] <qin> loa: It was approved, remove them! ;)
[01:30] <tylertwo> :p
[01:30] <loa> qin, if i do autoremove i will see what it want remove?
[01:30] <loa> it will ask me for Y?)
[01:30] <qin> loa: yes, just read before pressing "Y"
[01:30] <pfifo> Psil0Cybin: I would #1 file a bug on launchpad.net and #2 revert back to a working setup
[01:31] <loa> always was scary all autoremove options
[01:31] <qin> loa: autoremove is very safe in apt, in most cases...
[01:31] <loa> qin, i checked what it want remove.
[01:31] <loa> there no kernels packages.
[01:32] <loa> just different crap what i installed long time ago.
[01:32] <pfifo> loa: autoremove doesnt remove old kernels
[01:32] <loa> pfifo, it was checked.
[01:34] <pfifo> what was checked?
[01:34] <qin> loa: pfifo is right, autoremove was wrong
[01:34] <loa> pfifo, autoremove and you are right.
[01:35] <tylertwo> loa: You can remove at least part of the kernels manually in /lib/modules/. Just be careful not to delete your current kernel.
[01:35] <pfifo> loa: you have to purge it yourself with 'dpkg -P linux-image-1.2.3.4' or 'apt-get purge linux-image 1.2.3.4'
[01:36] <loa> i think it is really save all as it is.
[01:36] <loa> really better.
[01:41] <Hungary> Is their a alternative program to webmin?
[01:45] <pfifo> Hungary: google lead me to this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2103421
[01:45] <tylertwo> pfifo: Good call on the apt-get command for removing old kernels. I'm using that now to get rid of some of mine now.
[01:47] <wylde> !webmin
[01:47] <marcela> hola
[01:47] <wylde> !info zentyal
[01:47] <wylde> hmm
[01:48] <Psil0Cybin> pfifo: now that i have reverted back to a working setup, and filed a report with launch, what do i do now just wait?
[01:48] <Psil0Cybin> for a fix, or should i do something proactive?
[01:49] <pfifo> Psil0Cybin: keep an eye on your bug report and see what happens
[01:49] <energizer1> I need help getting pipelight working. Anyone?
[01:50] <pfifo> Psil0Cybin: it will probabally get merged or marked as a duplicate, I should have told you to search for and subscribe to an existing bug, and to click 'this affects me' on it
[01:51] <Psil0Cybin> pfifo: thats what i ended up doing
[01:51] <Psil0Cybin> added also affects me here
[01:51] <Psil0Cybin> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/945379
[01:51]  * pfifo subscribes
[01:53] <darkpassenger2> hwo can i change the kernel loaded at boot time ? where is ths file in 13.04 ? I have to edit a file , right ?
[01:54] <hoodigoodi> new to this, went to close page and a box comes up saying i have unread messages but where are they?
[01:54] <loa> darkpassenger, /boot/grub/grub.cfg
[01:55] <pfifo> darkpassenger2: you have to create an entry for it in /etc/grub.d/40_custom and then run 'update-grub' to have it automatically selected, edit /etc/defaults/grub and change the default option
[01:55] <pfifo> loa: no, thats not supported
[02:01] <kthxdriveby> darkpassenger2: If you want to load an older kernel just once, you can hold down shift or ctrl (I forget which) while grub starts.
[02:01] <tylertwo> darkpassenger2: I think it's shift
[02:03] <darkpassenger2> pfifo: do I have to edit etc/grub.d/40_custom first ,
[02:04] <hoodigoodi> where are my unread messages it says I have when i go to close? newbie
[02:06] <tylertwo> hoodigoodi: What page did you try to close?
[02:07] <hoodigoodi> pidgin
[02:07] <hoodigoodi> #ubuntu
[02:08] <tylertwo> hoodigoodi: I'm not familiar with pidgin.. prolly it's fine to close it. Maybe someone /msged you and it's open on another tab or something?
[02:09] <hoodigoodi> can't see any tabs....? what do you use?
[02:09] <tylertwo> hoodigoodi: irssi, for irc
[02:10] <talkyattorney> "Monitor of built-in analog stereo" Seems to record way out of sync, as in, I can change the tempoby 10% and the pitch will be right, but the audio seems to be faster than it should. any ideas?
[02:11] <hoodigoodi> irssi..is that good?
[02:11] <sec_> anyone try install linux dualboot with windows 8.1 preinstalled?
[02:12] <tylertwo> hoodigoodi: It's ok. I'm pretty new to it.
[02:13] <zykotick9> hoodigoodi: xchat is a popular gui client
[02:13] <hoodigoodi> sec_: Interesting  question ..i asked this before, the link might be useful? Has anyone come across this?  'an error occurred while writing the the change to the storage devices. the operation has been aborted' any ideas? I'm trying to set up dual boot on laptop with ubuntu cd on pc with win7. Was going fine, from cd, following instructions as per here www.tinyurl.com/cglyb3e. Created the free space but then decided i got the size wr
[02:14] <hoodigoodi> ok, seems i didn't get that right? how do i direct a message at someone in particular?
[02:16] <sec_> hoodigoodi: ok thanks.
[02:20] <hoodigoodi> sec_: i'm having that partition error issue..just make sure you don't change your mind about the partition size to reserve for windows...get it right the first time at it should work fine.
[02:21] <hoodigoodi> anyone use pidgin?
[02:22] <Dr_Willis> lots of people do ;)
[02:23] <hoodigoodi> Dr_Willis: so when I go to close it it says I have unread messages but...where are they?
[02:27] <Dr_Willis> no idea. - i dont  use it.  ;P
[02:27] <hoodigoodi> HAHA!
[02:27] <Dr_Willis> or if i do its just for irc. I never get msgs in any of the other services from anyone.. No friends. ;P
[02:28] <hoodigoodi> what do you use?
[02:28] <Dr_Willis> I basically waste all day on IRC. using weechat.
[02:28] <hoodigoodi> damn
[02:28] <Dr_Willis> Sometimes i get a facebook message. but thats only notifieing me by my android phone.
[02:29] <Dr_Willis> Not like i ever get imporntant facebook messages.
[02:29] <hoodigoodi> damn dude..what's an important message?
[02:29] <wilee-nilee> Never used pidgin but I see an option to mark messages as read and if not a popup happens
[02:30] <wilee-nilee> I see pidgin info here. https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&output=search&sclient=psy-ab&q=unread+messages+pidgin&btnG=&gbv=1&sei=BNZMUvT0IqjGiwLnhIC4Dw
[02:31] <Dr_Willis> hoodigoodi:  anything more imporntant then 'bubba has watered your crops... bob has posted another useless link.... phil pokes you..'
[02:31] <Dr_Willis> anything imporntant - peole would just text my phone. ;)
[02:32] <hoodigoodi> haha..damn dude
[02:33] <Dr_Willis> plus theres the fact when i do use ubuntu and login to all these online accounts.. well.. i never really see it do anything. ;) guess im supposed to get fb messages, and gmail notifications, and stuff. but i dont see any messages
[02:34] <Dr_Willis> so the whole 'social' part of Ubuntu - seems sort of just empty to me.
[02:34] <varunendra> Dr_Willis, thankfully ;)
[02:35] <hoodigoodi> Dr_Willis: when i laugh i sound like a squeeze box because i've got the flu ....haha
[02:35] <Dr_Willis> same with the 'webapps' stuff - was a big thing in the blogs  when it came out.. dont actually see it do much
[02:36] <harushimo> is there a way to create usb flash drive? so I can install ubuntu on my desktop
[02:36] <Dr_Willis> harushimo:  doxens  of tools and ways to make a bootable flash from the iso files.
[02:37] <harushimo> I have the iso. I'm using OSX right now but this is for my desktop
[02:37] <Dr_Willis> harushimo:  pendrivelinux has tools for most os's out there. that have lots of features. theres the offical ubuntu disk creator tool. You could use 'dd'
[02:37] <Dr_Willis> id see wht the pendrivelinux site has for guides/tools for osx
[02:37] <harushimo> okay
[02:37] <harushimo> thanks
[02:38] <hoodigoodi> A squeeze box with a hole in it
[02:40] <hoodigoodi> Has anyone come across this?  'an error occurred while writing the the change to the storage devices. the operation has been aborted'  I'm trying to set up dual boot on laptop with ubuntu cd on pc with win7. Was going fine, from cd, following instructions as per here www.tinyurl.com/cglyb3e. Created the free space but then decided i got the size wrong. I could not resize from the cd so went back and expanded the drive in windows to g
[02:40] <wolfheart> Hi , can someone please tell me software for Ubuntu 13.04 for a Wisair Ltd. Olidata Wireless Multimedia Adapter please ?
[02:41] <Dr_Willis> hoodigoodi:  that error was from windows resizeing the partitions?
[02:41] <Dr_Willis> wolfheart:  wht does that device even do?
[02:42] <wolfheart> Dr_Willis :- it allows you to stream movies etc to your tv via wireless
[02:42] <hoodigoodi> Dr_Willis: no..from the cd, trying to create available space for installation
[02:42] <Dr_Willis> wolfheart:  does it use Upnp or DLNA? or some other special service on the pc?
[02:42] <kingnick42> Hey guys - I've filed a bug report https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/1234488 relating to a very unreliable wifi connection when wireless N is enabled. If anyone else has this problem feel free to confirm the bug report :)
[02:43] <Dr_Willis> hoodigoodi:  so the cd wont resize the windows partion? were you using gparted or the installer to resize?
[02:43] <wolfheart> Dr_Willis :- no idea sorry
[02:43] <hoodigoodi> Dr_Willis: installer
[02:45] <rslarson> Good evening all!
[02:45] <rslarson> any one familiar with vsFTPd?
[02:46] <hoodigoodi> Dr_Willis: it worked the first time but then after reclaiming the space in windows, that error occurred trying to recreate it from the cd
[02:47] <rslarson> I am trying to create a secure FTP site, and when I go to connect in filezilla it gives me this error: GnuTLS error -15: An unexpected TLS packet was received.
[02:47] <hoodigoodi> Dr_Willis: silly of me but then i'm just a broken squeeze box right now
[02:47] <rslarson> When I go into the logs, I see this message whenever I try to connect: "SSL version: TLSv1/SSLv3, SSL cipher: AES256-GCM-SHA384, not reused, no cert"
[02:48] <rslarson> I've done my googling already and all solutions do not fix this issue
[02:48] <rslarson> where should I go from here?
[02:51] <rslarson> I am using ubuntu server 12.04
[02:53] <hoodigoodi> Dr_Willis: gparted seemed a little ambitious at first but you think i could fix this error with it? There are already four primary partitions too
[03:02] <rslarson> ok I figured out that it will not allow the connections if chroot_local_users=true
[03:03] <rslarson> I want to limit users to their home directory when they connect via ftp
[03:03] <rslarson> is there a way around this?
[03:06] <Dr_Willis> hoodigoodi:  4 primary is thelimit for non-gpt disks.
[03:07] <Dr_Willis> rslarson:  might be some settings with whatever ftp server you are using. in this day and age. its better to use ssh/sftp/scp and forget about ftp.
[03:14] <unicorn-lightnin> can anyone recommend a good text-to-speech engine for Firefox? I can't seem to find any for Firefox, only Chrome.. Is there another Ubuntu app I should use? OR?
[03:14] <unicorn-lightnin> or? *
[03:23] <KxTwo> wow dead room tonight
[03:24] <lotuspsychje> KxTwo: with 1600 users im sure its not dead :p
[03:24] <KxTwo> ha, perhaps quiet was the better choice
[03:24] <lotuspsychje> KxTwo: wake the dead with a nice question :p
[03:24] <KxTwo> Hey you know what, its a stretch but  I am using ubuntu server and its quiet in here now anyway so I will ask a question!
[03:25] <mini> hi everyone
[03:25] <KxTwo> I am running dokuwiki on my ubuntu server, everything runs fine but I am trying to use a statistics plugin that is giving me all srots of errors.  Perhaps its not the plugin but something with the server.  Here is an example of errors, I got these two when I updated the spelling on one of my pages: DB Error: could not set UTF-8 (Access denied for user ''@'localhost' to database 'stats')
[03:25] <KxTwo> DB Error: INSERT DELAYED INTO stats_edits SET dt = NOW(), page = 'start', type = 'E', ip = '67.251.70.19', user = 'karl', session = 'uektmrm2c7frc22kuoo581hnb1', uid = '1380517486352-4740'
[03:26] <Guest95740> what do i need to do to identify my name i use here?
[03:26] <jrib> !register | Guest95740
[03:26] <KxTwo> ./msg nickserf identify "password"
[03:26] <KxTwo> nickserv*
[03:26] <lotuspsychje> !info dokuwiki
[03:27] <KxTwo> lotuspsychje, if I had to guess it has nothing to do with dokuwiki and the plugin itself as those are pretty straight forward.  HOwever, I obviously cannot be sure.  I have the questioned posted in the #dokuwiki channel but that IS a dead channel with very little action the last 5 days.
[03:28] <Guest95740> is 13.10 good now?
[03:28] <lotuspsychje> !saucy | Guest95740
[03:28] <sumpygump> KxTwo: It looks like the problem is the user that is connecting to the db. It says access denied for ''@localhost
[03:29] <KxTwo> sumpygump, can you offer any advice on what I need to do to fix it?
[03:29] <sumpygump> When you set up docuwiki, did you ever edit a config file or somewhere enter the credentials to access the database?
[03:30] <sumpygump> Sorry, I don't know much about docuwiki
[03:30] <KxTwo> sumpygump, I ran the install script and then set permissions
[03:30] <Dr_Willis> perhaps the service needs configured to allow access from localhost, and the ip of the server
[03:30] <KxTwo> its ben a long time since I set it up
[03:32] <KxTwo> ok I literally just started reading about sql last ni ght and this, at least in part, has something to do with sql
[03:33] <KxTwo> ok at this poitn I think it has nothing to do with ubuntu server, sorry I brought it up, I was hoping.
[03:34] <lotuspsychje> KxTwo: https://forum.dokuwiki.org/post/38128
[03:34] <KxTwo> lotuspsychje, I think I found it
[03:35] <KxTwo> I didnt RTFM, there are instructions saying you must create a msql database.  Obviously if there isnt one there theres no ay to access it
[03:36] <lotuspsychje> KxTwo: tutorial about your script: https://www.dokuwiki.org/plugin:statistics
[03:36] <KxTwo> thats what I was talking about
[03:37] <KxTwo> every other plugin just worked so I assumed and didn't read.  Could have fixed this days ago, so stupid.
[03:37] <jj1234> anyone know why dpkg-architecture -aarmhf would return: sh: 1: arm-linux-gnueabihf-: not found ???
[03:38] <lotuspsychje> KxTwo: no sweat, we are all here to learn new stuff
[03:38] <KxTwo> lotuspsychje, might I recommend you play with your own dokuwiki.  In my opinion EVERYONE should have one.
[03:45] <KxTwo> crap this isnt working
[03:46] <Dr_Willis> !find arm-linux-gnueabihf
[03:46] <toothe> so, using wpa_supplicant/wpa_passphrase gets me online, but I would like to have my server automatically connect to the wifi when I boot it up. How do I do that?
[03:47] <toothe> i have settings in /etc/network/interfaces
[03:48] <jj1234> Dr_Willis, I have all those packages installed
[03:49] <jj1234> dpkg-checkbuilddeps: Unmet build dependencies: libelf-dev libnewt-dev binutils-dev libdw-dev libgtk2.0-dev | gtk2-devel
[03:49] <jj1234> I can't get rid of that, though I have all the packages on the left installed
[03:49] <somsip> toothe: in /etc/network/interfaces, change (something like) manula wlan0 to auto wlan0
[03:50] <somsip> *manual
[03:56] <jj1234> ls
[03:56] <KxTwo> d
[03:56] <Dr_Willis> file not found...
[03:56] <Dr_Willis> ;^)
[03:57] <KxTwo> ok off topic again, but why are there channels that I can't send to?  I joined mysql and sql but neither allow me to send
[03:57] <Dr_Willis> !regiester
[03:57] <wilee-nilee> KxTwo, You registered with freenode?
[03:58] <Dr_Willis> regiestered nick name needed to send to many  channels as an anti-spam procedure
[03:58] <KxTwo> yes and I am identified
[03:58] <KxTwo> let me double check maybe I forgot today
[03:58] <Dr_Willis> look for messages in the chat client windows as to why
[03:59] <KxTwo> there were none there Dr_Willis, it was just me being stupid, I thought I had identified today.  I usually join #c++ right away but since I didnt I must have forgotten
[04:01] <wilee-nilee> KxTwo, Your IRC client probably has a auto login.
[04:04] <unicorn-lightnin> what is the chat for saucy salamander?
[04:04] <zykotick9> unicorn-lightnin: #ubuntu+1
[04:04] <unicorn-lightnin> thakns
[04:06] <Xabster> Hi, I have some mouse issues: it appears as if my mouse randomly releases the button while I'm dragging windows and/or doing double clicks sometimes. It works when connected to a Windows PC with the logitech drivers that comes with it. Do you have any idea on how to solve this? I know logitech isn't linux friendly
[04:07] <Dr_Willis> ive rarely had any issues with logitech mice on linux. they are about all i use. :) unless i find razor on sale. ;)
[04:08] <Xabster> hmm
[04:08] <Dr_Willis> Xabster:  you might want to check the forums and askubuntu.com also to see if anyone else has reported a similer issue. It could be some quirk spefifi  to  your mouse or version of the kernel, or X.
[04:08] <dragonfly> Xabster, is there a model name or model number on your mouse?
[04:08] <Xabster> Okay, but listen to this symptom too:
[04:08] <cyntehl> What a nify little place
[04:09] <Xabster> When I right click the desktop a context menu opens. If I quickly left click outside of it it does not close... if I wait ~800 ms and then click, then it closes
[04:09] <Dr_Willis> theres also those 'acessability' options that sometimes gets turned on and cause issues when people dont relize they are on.
[04:09] <Xabster> maybe it's less than 800, but there's a delay in which i can't just click outside of the context menu to close it
[04:10] <Xabster> all universal access things are off
[04:10] <reisio> Xabster: laptop?
[04:10] <Xabster> no
[04:10] <sharkz> how about trying another mouses?
[04:10] <Xabster> high end pc
[04:10] <reisio> yes, try another mouse
[04:11] <sharkz> symptom still exists?
[04:11] <NastyNaz> I log in to root using ssh keys but I think there's also a password set. is there any way to disable the password?
[04:11] <Xabster> i'll try
[04:11] <reisio> NastyNaz: you can just disable ssh'ing in as root
[04:11] <NastyNaz> I want to SSH as root though
[04:11] <reisio> oh, opposite of what you want :)
[04:11] <reisio> NastyNaz: that's silly, but
[04:11] <NastyNaz> i dont want to have to type passwords
[04:11] <NastyNaz> basically just all ssh keys so no one can try bruteforcing
[04:11] <grimeton> NastyNaz: use the r* tools
[04:11] <reisio> NastyNaz: by default Ubuntu has no known root password, so you'd have to set one
[04:12] <NastyNaz> I set one ages ago
[04:12] <reisio> that's it
[04:12] <NastyNaz> how to I change it?
[04:12] <grimeton> NastyNaz: sudo su -
[04:12] <Dr_Willis> ssh configs by default may also block logging in diretly as root
[04:12] <reisio> same way you set it last time
[04:12] <Dr_Willis> dont use sudo su.,  use 'sudo -i' to get a root shell
[04:13] <NastyNaz> sudo passwd - that the prompt for the root password?
[04:13] <NastyNaz> im logged in as root now
[04:13] <Dr_Willis> passwd command will set the paswprd then
[04:13] <NastyNaz> ok cheers
[04:13] <NastyNaz> ill just set it to something stupidly long
[04:13] <reisio> smartly long you mean :)
[04:13] <Dr_Willis> i dont think you need to set a root password to use ssh keys.
[04:14] <Xabster> i misunderstood his question perhaps, but he's asking how he can log in via SSH to a root account without supplying a password, right?
[04:14] <NastyNaz> no
[04:14] <Xabster> ok
[04:14] <reisio> you did say you didn't want to type passwords
[04:14] <NastyNaz> I *already* connect through ssh and a 3000 bit key. problem is the root account also has a normal password which I want to change (to stop me getting bruteforced)
[04:15] <reisio> ah
[04:15] <reisio> yup, passwd
[04:15] <NastyNaz> so the only vulnerability is if they can get the actual ssh key
[04:15] <NastyNaz> cheers
[04:15] <reisio> you can also re-scramble it
[04:15] <Dr_Willis> you can disable the root password i belive and only ssh in via key
[04:15] <reisio> with um... I forget the command
[04:15] <reisio> probably a param for passwd
[04:15] <NastyNaz> Dr_Willis: I was looking for an option like that. do you know how?
[04:16] <Dr_Willis> NastyNaz:  nope. but i bet askubuntu.com does :) some option for passwd i think.
[04:16] <NastyNaz> it says 'sudo passwd -dl root' will disable the account but I don't know what 'disable' means. I dont want to try for fear of not being able to log in
[04:17] <reisio> it'd be pretty silly if it could do that
[04:18] <NastyNaz> I just set it to 256 char string
[04:19] <Dr_Willis> thats  why you have users with sudo rights
[04:20] <Dr_Willis> ssh has an option i thought where it can only use keys. not passwords
[04:20] <Wug> NastyNaz: "Disabled" means the account can't be logged into from a login prompt
[04:20] <NastyNaz> Wug: but keys still work right?
[04:20] <Wug> ubuntu defaults root to disabled
[04:20] <Wug> ssh keys?
[04:20] <NastyNaz> yeah
[04:20] <Wug> no, the account is unlogin-able
[04:20] <NastyNaz> ok that's not what I want
[04:20] <Wug> use sudo to access root powers
[04:20] <Wug> it's what it's there for
[04:21] <NastyNaz> then I need to remember a huge password
[04:21] <dragonfly> NastyNaz, it is an option in ssh config where you set that login must be by key and not password
[04:21] <Wug> you can configure sudo not to require a password
[04:21] <NastyNaz> if I log in as root using a ssh key I dont need to remember anything and it's secure
[04:21] <Wug> you can also set it to force you to use a specific program
[04:21] <dragonfly> NastyNaz, you can set your root password back to what it was before you forget it :)
[04:21] <NastyNaz> dragonfly: thanks
[04:22] <Wug> the general practice is to make another account (or just use your own), set it up not to need a password when sudoing your one specific thing, and then have it do that
[04:22] <Wug> using another account is good because you can safely disable all other sudo access, and let it do just its one specific thing without worrying about it doing anything else
[04:23] <NastyNaz> it will mess a lot of scripts up if I use a different account. the chance that someone can execute malicious code is low so I just do everything as root
[04:23] <NastyNaz> bigger problem is someone cracking the password
[04:24] <Wug> the little voice in my head is shouting "run away and dont look back"
[04:25] <dragonfly> NastyNaz, it's the authentication methods section....i'm looking for you
[04:25] <Wug> you shouldn't write programs that will break if you run them as different users anyway
[04:25] <grimeton> NastyNaz: disable password auth in the sshd_config and use keys
[04:25] <NastyNaz> dragonfly: got it
[04:25] <NastyNaz> dragonfly: need to add 'PasswordAuthentication no' to sshd_config
[04:25] <NastyNaz> dragonfly: thanks
[04:26] <NastyNaz> locate sshd_config
[04:26] <NastyNaz> oops
[04:26] <dragonfly> excellent, I knew there was a way to do it, but it's been awhile since I've needed to modify any of my configs....
[04:37] <Paulus68_1> which application is better to work with the IPOD amarok or gtkpod?
[04:38] <Dr_Willis> try them both - see what one you like better. ;)
[04:39] <reisio> Paulus68_1: they probably use the same library backend
[04:39] <reisio> so will only differ subtley
[04:40] <noah> Hey I'm running an Asus Zenbook Prime UX51VZ. When I plug an HDMI cord to my TV, nothing is happening. On my old laptop, it would automatically switch over. Here it does nothing. Anyone have any idea why?
[04:40] <noah> Ubuntu 13.04, btw
[04:41] <The_Ace> :noah have you tried google?
[04:41] <reisio> noah: lspci | grep -i vga
[04:41] <noah> The_Ace: Yes, a lot of it. Found nothing. Everything online says hdmi should work for this model
[04:42] <noah> 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 3rd Gen Core processor Graphics Controller (rev 09)
[04:42] <noah> 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation GK107M [GeForce GT 650M / GTX 660M LE] (rev ff)
[04:42] <reisio> noah: okay, you've got two cards :)
[04:42] <noah> I've got the nvidia drivers and bumblebee installed
[04:42] <reisio> noah: probably you're not using the nvidia one ATM, so it isn't working
[04:42] <noah> reisio: is there a command to make it work?
[04:42] <vite> help with this error https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/initramfs-tools/+bug/1233284
[04:43] <noah> reisio: I had to download bumblebee to turn nvidia off so that it wouldn't burn 14W constantly
[04:43] <vite> it does not allow me to upgrade
[04:43] <vite> what should I do?
[04:43] <xirre> How does System Monitor get the CPU and RAM of processes and how can I do the same?
[04:43] <reisio> noah: you'd probably need to switch to nvidia for hdmi
[04:44] <noah> reisio: how do I switch between controllers? And once I do, will it just work?
[04:44] <reisio> xirre: it probably gets it from /proc/, you should probably use top, or htop, or ps
[04:44] <reisio> noah: I believe that is what bumblebee does, as you've already done, only you want the reverse
[04:44] <reisio> noah: it'll either just work or it won't :)
[04:45] <noah> reisio: bumblebee doesn't really have a GUI. It just turns the card back on when it thinks you need it
[04:45] <xirre> reisio: That probably doesn't show like like much of a sure answer. I can't find anywhere that does it it like it does it.
[04:45] <The_Ace> noah: kill the process
[04:45] <xirre> top won't output the exact same way.
[04:45] <reisio> xirre: which way do you want?
[04:46] <reisio> noah: I'd probably do it manually, but if it's meant to do it automatically, you might look for a bumblebee bug report for hdmi connection
[04:46] <xirre> if I do top ... > cpuandram.txt It formats it weird.
[04:46] <xirre> My biggest problem is how to get a readable format for a program to read it.
[04:47] <noah> reisio: could it be that I have both nvidia and bumblebee, and I only need one?
[04:47] <reisio> noah: not really
[04:47] <reisio> noah: you have an intel device and a nvidia device
[04:47] <reisio> noah: bumblebee is for switching between the two
[04:47] <reisio> AIUI
[04:47] <noah> reisio: http://askubuntu.com/questions/136171/how-do-i-get-hdmi-out-working-with-bumblebee
[04:47] <noah> reisio: this is saying to purge both, then install bumblebee again?
[04:48] <reisio> noah: maybe that'll work then :)
[04:49] <noah> reisio: ah crap. This is a known issue. Looks like I have to set up a second session and have that running on the tv
[04:50] <noah> reisio: Thanks for the help. This looks like it's going to be painful, so I'll save it for tomorrow haha
[04:51] <reisio> noah: that nvidia optimus stuff has come a long way, too, make sure you aren't working with outdated info :)
[04:52] <noah> reisio: was written a year ago
[04:52]  * reisio shrugs
[04:53] <AndChat|402864> Will btc deop
[04:54] <AndChat|402864> I cant use android ui screen keyboards
[04:54] <Dr_Willis> huh?
[04:55] <AndChat|402864> Nvm was going to ask if people here thought btc were going to drop further
[04:56] <Dr_Willis> No idea what btc even is ;)  #ubuntu-offtopic for chit-chatting.
[04:56] <AndChat|402864> It is very hard to use onboard keyboards on phones
[04:56] <Dr_Willis> I often use a small bluetooth keyboard with my phone for irc
[04:56] <jmgk> oh..
[04:57] <jmgk> Dr_Willis,  rather use a computer :)
[04:57] <Dr_Willis> i got a large bt keyboard for my tablet - basically is a computer then. ;)
[04:57] <Dr_Willis> or you can setup wher the tablet is a big keyboard i can use to type on my phone.
[04:59] <kernel09> testing
[04:59] <Dr_Willis> !test
[05:00] <everestt> (Ubuntu 13.01) $users command outputs my username *3 times*. Why is that?
[05:00] <everestt> *13.04
[05:01] <everestt> I am not remotely logged in. I haven't logged in text mode (ALT+CTRL+F1/F2/..)
[05:02] <Dr_Willis> shows exactly 3 times here. and im definatly logged in more
[05:03] <Dr_Willis> ok no it changed
[05:03] <Dr_Willis> now.
[05:04] <everestt> Dr_Willis, I am on my personal laptop and have logged into my account... shouldn't $users list my username just once?
[05:05] <macsplean> hello
[05:05] <reisio> 'lo
[05:10] <Dr_Willis> everestt:  open 4 terminal windows.. it will show more  of you
[05:11] <Dr_Willis> same as the 'who' command does
[05:12] <beavis> need helo pls
[05:12] <Dr_Willis> give the channel details.
[05:13] <Guest32110> ??
[05:13] <reisio> Guest32110: hi
[05:13] <Guest32110> hey
[05:13] <reisio> heyo
[05:14] <NicolasNarvaez> wow Dr_willis, i didnt kow that one
[05:14] <everestt> Dr_Willis, ah! so that's what it is. Thanks! (Gnome Terminal > Edit > Profile preferences > 'Title and command' Tab > Uncheck 'Update login records when command is launched' ...that changes the behavior)
[05:15] <Guest32110> anyone know about foremost??
[05:15] <jmgk> hey all
[05:15] <jmgk> :D
[05:15] <reisio> Guest32110: what about it
[05:15] <reisio> heya jm
[05:15] <Guest32110> all my pics are thumbnails how do i fix that?
[05:18] <Guest32110> ??
[05:20] <reisio> Guest32110: find the ones that aren't thumbnails
[05:20] <reisio> awe he lefted
[05:21] <beavis_> hey
[05:22] <reisio> hey
[05:23] <beavis_> help??
[05:24] <reisio> beavis_: what's up? :)
[05:24] <beavis_> can u help?
[05:25] <reisio> beavis_: with what?
[05:25] <beavis_> foremost?
[05:25] <reisio> beavis_: what about it?
[05:26] <beavis_> all my pics come out as thumbnails??
[05:27] <bazhang> http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/hardy/en/man1/foremost.1.html   beavis_ have a read
[05:29] <beavis_> so the headers and footers?
[05:30] <prefix> how can I determine where a program is invoked from on ubuntu?
[05:31] <reisio> prefix: where?
[05:31] <prefix> nevermind. I got it
[05:31] <prefix> whereis worked like a charm
[05:31] <beavis_> im lost
[05:31] <reisio> :)
[05:36] <Dr_Willis> beavis_:  perhaps clariufy the question in a nice complete and verbose sentance.
[05:36] <Dr_Willis> sentence :)
[05:37] <Dr_Willis> prefix:  theres also the 'which' command.  ie:    which mount
[05:37] <beavis_> what do you mean? im new to this
[05:37] <MonkeyDust> and 'locate'
[05:38] <Dr_Willis> beavis_:  state the question in a clear concise way. Im not sure wnyone in here has a clue what your problem is.
[05:38] <beavis_> when i recover with foremost. all my images are really small?
[05:39] <Dr_Willis> !info foremost
[05:39] <Dr_Willis> perhaps its recoverying  the thumbnail images. and not the images
[05:39] <beavis_> yea what do i do than?
[05:40] <Dr_Willis> recover all the files. and see what ones are the fullsized images?
[05:40] <Dr_Willis> i imagine they will be the bigger filesized files
[05:41] <beavis_> sorry im lost i just stared useing this and im not trying to sound dumb
[05:42] <Dr_Willis> ive never used foremost. so no idea on the detauils of using the tool. If it rcovers the files to some directory. look in the directory for the bigger files. they should be the fullsized images. IF it did manage to recover them
[05:44] <Dr_Willis> http://www.howtoforge.com/recover-deleted-files-with-foremost   seems a ok guide from whhat i just read.
[05:48] <vj_ccie_sec> hy
[05:48] <vj_ccie_sec> how can i install gns 3??
[05:50] <vj_ccie_sec> ??
[05:50] <vj_ccie_sec> any1 der?
[05:50] <Dr_Willis> common way would be to use the default repos, ppa's  or source
[05:50] <Dr_Willis> thats how you install most stuff
[05:50] <qin> vj_ccie_sec: http://askubuntu.com/questions/256123/how-do-i-install-the-new-gns3-release
[05:51] <Dr_Willis> i got no idea what gns even is. l)
[05:51] <Dr_Willis> :)
[05:52] <vj_ccie_sec> hym!
[05:52] <vj_ccie_sec> i hav installed GNS
[05:53] <vj_ccie_sec> but it needs some supportive applications to run
[05:53] <vj_ccie_sec> it properly
[05:54] <vj_ccie_sec> one is Dynamips , which i have installed and got it working
[05:54] <vj_ccie_sec> but i am getting some problem in qemu i.e; second supportive application to run
[05:55] <vj_ccie_sec> i got it complied but it is outdated
[05:55] <vj_ccie_sec> so to update that gns people provides some patch files
[05:55] <vj_ccie_sec> http://sourceforge.net/projects/gns-3/files/Qemu/Linux/QEMU-0.14.1b-GNS3-Ubuntu-Linux.tgz/download
[05:56] <andreiiar> Ok. Whenever I start vi it doesen't work like I am used to on centos. I mean it doesen't show the mode you are in the the arrow keys behave erratic.
[05:56] <Xeeshu> Morning!
[05:57] <vj_ccie_sec> here is d linhttp://sourceforge.net/projects/gns-3/files/Qemu/Patches/qemu-0.14.1-patches.tgz/download
[05:57] <vj_ccie_sec> here is the link for getting patches!
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[05:57] <Dr_Willis> andreiiar:  install the vim (or vim-full package)
[05:58] <alkisg> On a windows 8, 64 bit, UEFI laptop, if I disable secure boot, can I install ubuntu 32 bit on it? Or do I *really* have to install 64 bit?
[05:58] <Dr_Willis> vim tiny or light or somthing is the default vim  andreiiar
[05:58] <Dr_Willis> brb.
[05:58] <kubanc> hellow! Any idea how come if i connect via putty to ip address x.x.x.x:22 and if i change port to random number i can still connect to ubuntulog server?
[06:09] <karab44> hi
[06:09] <reisio> hi karab
[06:09] <cfhowlett> karab44, greetings
[06:09] <karab44> :)
[06:11] <cfhowlett> alkisg, 64 bit is optimized for your system.  32 bit is not.  your choice.
[06:13] <rescept> has anyone succesfully installed google drive sync in ubuntu server? I just did it on my desktop, but I would like to have my gdrive to be synced also in my virtual server.
[06:13] <reisio> I've used grive before
[06:14] <cfhowlett> rescept, haven't done it myself, but it should be a pretty straightforward procedure.
[06:15] <reisio> cfhowlett: more like 64-bit is optimized for systems with processors no more than 10 years old, and 32-bit no more than 28 years old :p
[06:15] <wheatthin> depends on how it handles two-step verification
[06:15] <wheatthin> and large files
[06:16] <reisio> 18 more years of legacy support you don't need
[06:16] <alkisg> cfhowlett: I have a specific reason to need 32 bit, but from what I read in https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI, I *can't* use 32 bit. But I'm not sure that I understood correctly...
[06:16] <reisio> I'm pretty sure you can, it's just not a common use case, with UEFI
[06:16] <alkisg> reisio: so UEFI  would allow me to boot from the ubuntu-32bit.iso?
[06:18] <wheatthin> alkisg, I hope you know UEFI isn't something you can get or download and install... it's something your motherboard either supports or doesn't
[06:20] <alkisg> wheatthin: my motherboard supports both UEFI and CSM (legacy bios) mode, but if I select UEFI, it doesn't allow me to boot ubuntu from cd/usb, and if I select CSM, then the preinstalled windows won't boot
[06:21] <alkisg> I've got secureboot disabled of course
[06:23] <wheatthin> I see.. so UEFI is a must to have a successful dualboot (for windows sake lol). umm  http://askubuntu.com/questions/193144/dual-boot-uefi-windows-7-and-ubuntu-12-04-both-64-bits-w7-entry-doesnt-appea
[06:24] <alkisg> That's what I thought too, but that new guide at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI got me confused... with the trial and error paragraph
[06:24] <reisio> uefi is a must if you have a system that uses it :p
[06:24] <reisio> although technically you could replace it, with great effort :p
[06:25] <row248> Where i can find restart/shutdown logs? (I had fail option)
[06:25] <alkisg> So, ubuntu 64 bit can be booted from UEFI, but ubuntu 32 bit cannot be booted, right?
[06:26] <reisio> it's probably closer to 32-bit being less common and therefore more problematic, but not impossible
[06:26] <andreiiar> Guise. My vim is working in compatible mode and I don't like that
[06:27] <unicorn-lightnin> So.. I was trying to install MS Office 2010 using PlayOnLinux, and the installer fails right at the end of the installation. The icons for the application  don't appear on the PlayOnLinux list, but suprisingly all of the applications appear in Unity and work great.. but I am not quite sure how I can associate files with them since the applications don't appear in POL.
[06:27] <reisio> andreiiar: what've you got in ~/.vimrc?
[06:27] <reisio> unicorn-lightnin: LibreOffice
[06:27] <unicorn-lightnin> not helpful.
[06:28] <andreiiar> There was no vimrc and I made one to add set nocompatible but t only starts in no compatiblilty mode if i start it with no files argument
[06:28] <unicorn-lightnin> I like LibreOffice, but it displays documents differently and when my documents go back to my job, they look poor and I would get fired. I have no choice.
[06:28] <reisio> andreiiar: with what?
[06:28] <andreiiar> With no argument^
[06:28] <andreiiar> xD
[06:28] <unicorn-lightnin> and besides, this is not a MS Office question, it's a POL/Ubuntu file association question
[06:29] <Dr_Willis> unicorn-lightnin:  perhaps check askubuntu.com   - there maybe some info onsetting it up
[06:29] <alkisg> reisio: OK I found the relevant bug report, it states there that's it's plain impossible: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-cdimage/+bug/1025555
[06:29] <Dr_Willis> im suprised the apps work at all
[06:30] <reisio> unicorn-lightnin: hang on, I've got the wine info somewhere
[06:30] <unicorn-lightnin> how do I associate file types with a an application that seems to only appear in the Unity search.
[06:31] <Dr_Willis> i do know that somehow winrar and wine decided to become the default application for ISO files on one of my systems. so its definatly doable
[06:31] <chams> hi
[06:32] <unicorn-lightnin> in the past, I was able to do it by associating the application with PlayOnLinux which then forwarded the file to the correct application.. but here that won't work because POL seems to think the application is not installed.. even though it is installed perfectly in Unity.
[06:33] <reisio> unicorn-lightnin: http://dpaste.com/1404352/plain/
[06:33] <reisio> unicorn-lightnin: put that into a chmod +x'd file, and tell your file manager to open the file type/s with it
[06:33] <reisio> and... change it to point to the right .exe's, obviously
[06:34] <wheatthin> like duuuh :P
[06:34] <reisio> heheh
[06:34] <unicorn-lightnin> nice.
[06:34] <Dr_Willis> nothing should be taken for granted in this channel. ;)
[06:34] <wheatthin> ehehe just trying to lighten the situation :)
[06:35] <jvm_> hi. i wanted to use ecryptfs-unwrap-passphrase to store the mount passphrase just to make sure; but i get an "stat: No such file or directory" error. how to get the mount passphrase for my user?
[06:36] <unicorn-lightnin> reisio.. just one problem.. let's try this..
[06:36] <pleanbean> Hey. I'm having some issues with grub not installing properly on my pc with ubuntu 13.04.
[06:36] <loki__> hello anyone here pay STO??
[06:36] <unicorn-lightnin> woops, meant to take the "one problem" part out of that last sentence
[06:37] <loki__> I am having a problem with play on linux
[06:38] <reisio> unicorn-lightnin: :p
[06:38] <reisio> loki__: sto?
[06:38] <loki__> Star Trek online
[06:39] <unicorn-lightnin> hmmm, actually I'm not sure how to change this from WINE to PlayOnLinux..
[06:40] <loki__> you know how to configure wine??
[06:40] <wheatthin> aren't they the same just about?
[06:40] <loki__> some what
[06:40] <wheatthin> wine and play on linux.
[06:40] <loki__> i am having problems with both
[06:41] <wheatthin> umm ok.. so instead of just trying to avoid the issue, what is the issue?
[06:41] <reisio> unicorn-lightnin: both wine
[06:42] <reisio> unicorn-lightnin: you just need the prefix and the .exe path
[06:42] <pleanbean> Is anyone around to help me out?
[06:42] <reisio> unicorn-lightnin: find ~/.??* -iname '*office*.exe' would probably find it
[06:42] <reisio> pleanbean: :)
[06:42] <wheatthin> pleanbean, I've still never seen your problem
[06:42] <loki__> so i followed the directions on downloading and installing ARC but i am unable to have it install startrek online
[06:42] <wheatthin> same issue?
[06:43] <pleanbean> Yeah. Still having issues with grub not installing correctly or something.
[06:43] <wheatthin> pleanbean, you dualbooting on the same hard disk?
[06:44] <loki__> its like ARC is only partially working properly
[06:44] <Guest35469> I am having trouble customizing Ubuntu. I can never install themes or anything. Any help?
[06:45] <pleanbean> No, I'm installing it on its own disk.
[06:45] <aeon-ltd> Guest35469: what guide are you following?
[06:45] <unicorn-lightnin> so replace the "c:\bla\bla" with /home/unicorn-lightning/.PlayOnLinux/wineprefix/Office2010/drive_c/Program Files/Microsoft Office/Office14/WINWORD.EXE ?
[06:45] <wheatthin> pleanbean, and you've already changed the boot order in bios? and made sure when installing grub, that the linux drive was the primary bootable drive?
[06:46] <Guest35469> aeon0ltd: i sent you a message
[06:46] <reisio> unicorn-lightnin: right, and the prefix bit earlier with /home/unicorn-lightning/.PlayOnLinux/wineprefix/Office2010, probably
[06:46] <pleanbean> Yep- its booting to the disk fine but I'm only getting a black screen with a blinking cursor. Yep made sure of that too.
[06:47] <unicorn-lightnin> what do you mean by "prefix bit earlier"
[06:47] <reisio> unicorn-lightnin: then just make sure it's chmod +x'd and associate it from your file manager like it's any other app
[06:47] <Calinou> Guest35469: why not say it in channel?
[06:47] <reisio> unicorn-lightnin: there's wine "C:\blah blah
[06:47] <aeon-ltd> Guest35469: so you're on no.7?
[06:47] <reisio> unicorn-lightnin: but before that there's a WINEPREFIX string
[06:47] <Guest35469> Yes I am on no. 7
[06:47] <wheatthin> pleanbean, can I see a pastebin of your 'sudo fdisk -l" output?
[06:48] <pleanbean> Let me boot into LiveOS....
[06:48] <aeon-ltd> Guest35469: what happens when you try to add the ppa?
[06:48] <pleanbean> do you want to read the chat transcripts from last night?
[06:48] <wheatthin> no..
[06:48] <reisio> unicorn-lightnin: probably this: App='eval WINEPREFIX=/home/unicorn-lightning/.PlayOnLinux/wineprefix/Office2010 WINEARCH=win32 wine "C:\Program Files\Microsoft Office/Office14/WINWORD.EXE" "'$Filename'"'
[06:48] <pleanbean> ok haha
[06:48] <Guest35469> Can I post pictures on here? I took a screenshot of what happens
[06:48] <pleanbean> i dunno we tried a lot of stuff
[06:48] <aeon-ltd> Guest35469: ok
[06:49] <loki__> reinstalling ARC
[06:49] <cfhowlett> !paste|Guest35469,
[06:49] <wilee-nilee> pleanbean, You run the bootrepair lately and saved the bootinfo summary?
[06:49] <pleanbean> Not recently, no. I'll do it now
[06:50] <wilee-nilee> pleanbean, didn't you get it fixed with another user last night?
[06:50] <energizer> Anybody have idea when 13.10 release is?
[06:50] <wilee-nilee> 10/17
[06:50] <Guest35469> It says E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock- open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable) E: Unable to lock the admin directory, is another process using it?
[06:50] <reisio> energizer: 10 means october
[06:50] <unicorn-lightnin> BAM, it worked
[06:51] <aeon-ltd> Guest35469: well are you using apt in another terminal?
[06:51] <unicorn-lightnin> But, what do I place in the "Filename="z:"${1//\//\\}"
[06:51] <Guest35469> I am not. How do I make it to where it shows your name in red so you can see my messages better/
[06:51] <Guest35469> ?
[06:51] <pleanbean> wilee-nilee nope we were up late trying to but didn't find a fix yet.
[06:52] <reisio> unicorn-lightnin: just leave that bit
[06:52] <reisio> unicorn-lightnin: if it works it works
[06:52] <wilee-nilee> pleanbean, This is a uefi setup correct?
[06:52] <aeon-ltd> Guest35469: are you installing something with synpatics or anything else; no idea you'll need to ask specifics for your irc client
[06:52] <pleanbean> Yep
[06:52] <energizer> reisio: ya that
[06:52] <Guest35469> I am not. Let me try it right now since I know I'm not using anything.
[06:53] <wilee-nilee> pleanbean, Make a thread at the ubuntu forums uefi is not really a channel strength, post the bootinfo there and have uefi in the header.
[06:53] <unicorn-lightnin> It currently complains: "Word cannot open the document: Z:\home\unicorn-lightning\apps"
[06:53] <reisio> unicorn-lightnin: it just means take the first argument (the file to open) and replace /'s in its path to \'s, Windows style
[06:53] <Guest35469> It says "imported: 1 (RSA: 1)
[06:53] <reisio> unicorn-lightnin: for what actual file?
[06:54] <wilee-nilee> pleanbean, YOur welcome to keep trying here, but be specific that this is a uefi at the least.
[06:54] <unicorn-lightnin> well.. I think I'm an idiot. I executed the shortcut from the terminal, so that' why
[06:55] <wheatthin> unicorn-lightnin, we are all new at one point in time or another. just learn from it
[06:55] <aeon-ltd> Guest35469: well if it returned something then try the next command
[06:55] <unicorn-lightnin> But when I right-click the .docx file I have and choose "Open With" I can't seem to find a way to associate it with that link we created
[06:55] <unicorn-lightnin> thanks wheatthin :)
[06:55] <reisio> unicorn-lightnin: did you run chmod +x fileWithMagicCodeInIt ?
[06:55] <Guest35469> Alright now it's doing something it's never done before. I'll let you know. sorry i'm a noob at this stuff.
[06:56] <unicorn-lightnin> yesh
[06:56] <reisio> unicorn-lightnin: and you can't choose that file from open with?
[06:56] <Guest35469> So does anybody know if the beta for 13.10 is worth to download?
[06:56] <wilee-nilee> Guest35469, You can tab compete nicks that shows the message to the user in red.
[06:57] <wheatthin> Guest35469, and you can always lookup what the changes are.
[06:57] <wilee-nilee> 13.10 is a development its up to you 2 weeks till release.
[06:57] <unicorn-lightnin> It doesn't appear in the list. Am I doing the right thing? I go to Right click -> Open with -> Other Applications -> Show Other Applications -> Not in this list
[06:58] <wheatthin> You might have to find it in /usr/local/bin or something of the sort
[06:58] <reisio> unicorn-lightnin: there should be a way to specify the path manually
[06:58] <pleanbean> wilee-nilee: Sorry yeah its EFI. wheatthin: paste.ubuntu.com/6187002
[06:58] <unicorn-lightnin> wheatthin, the problem is that it doesn't seem to have any option to specify a path manually
[06:58] <reisio> unicorn-lightnin: what about right-click, properties?
[06:58] <unicorn-lightnin> let's see...
[06:59] <Guest35469> aeon-ltd,  do i have to be root to install certain stuff?
[06:59] <unicorn-lightnin> errr... nope?
[06:59] <wilee-nilee> pleanbean, So you removed the windows?
[07:00] <reisio> unicorn-lightnin: this is... nautilus?
[07:00] <unicorn-lightnin> yes..
[07:00] <wheatthin> pleanbean, ok.. so on the /dev/sdb1 why's it empty?
[07:00] <aeon-ltd> Guest35469: yes
[07:00] <unicorn-lightnin> want a screenshot?
[07:00] <Guest35469> Alright. Just wondering.
[07:00] <Guest35469> I think I'm root. Idk how to tell
[07:00] <pleanbean> wilee-nilee Yep, I just have a wiped 1tb hd. wheatthin, not sure, thats the USB LiveOS is on
[07:01] <reisio> unicorn-lightnin: yeesh, seems they've quite complicated it
[07:01] <reisio> unicorn-lightnin: http://askubuntu.com/questions/67382/add-custom-command-in-the-open-with-dialog
[07:01] <reisio> there's no doubt some cute command you can run, but I don't know it
[07:01] <aeon-ltd> Guest35469: don't change to root, just use sudo, it's only 4 commands in the link you gave me
[07:01] <reisio> something to do with xdg-settings, maybe
[07:01] <wheatthin> pleanbean, hmm so your disk is /dev/sda?
[07:01] <wilee-nilee> pleanbean, You probably have to clean the mbr, than set the bios for msdos and make a msdos partition table and install again, you are missing the efi stuff that might have made it work.
[07:02] <unicorn-lightnin> *grumble*
[07:02] <reisio> unicorn-lightnin: once you have one you can probably easily duplicate it by copying a file in ~/.gnome or ~/.config somewhere
[07:02] <unicorn-lightnin> Ubuntu Tweak isn't compatible with Saucy..
[07:02] <pleanbean> wheatthin, yep.
[07:02] <wheatthin> if so, you gotta change it from GPT to the regular partitioning scheme
[07:02] <wheatthin> in order for fdisk to work right
[07:02] <pleanbean> wilee-nilee What do you think could have caused that?
[07:03] <reisio> unicorn-lightnin: can you hit CTRL+L?
[07:03] <wilee-nilee> pleanbean, you wiped windows, and its boot partition.
[07:03] <pleanbean> I've been having another issue with my bios reporting CPU Temperature Overflow Errors
[07:03] <unicorn-lightnin> No reisio
[07:03] <unicorn-lightnin> doesn't do anything
[07:04] <wheatthin> pleanbean, then you gotta write it and make it bootable.
[07:04] <Mikeandrd> Alright so far so good. On step 7, the install cursers, i have no idea if that link is part of the command or not
[07:04] <wheatthin> pleanbean, that's another issue.. possibly thermal paste replacement needed
[07:04] <Mikeandrd> Nvm it is lol
[07:04] <pleanbean> wheat thin, I replaced it a couple days ago
[07:05] <reisio> unicorn-lightnin: mmm, this looks a little simpler than the last one :p http://ubuntugenius.wordpress.com/2012/06/18/ubuntu-fix-add-program-to-list-of-applications-in-open-with-when-right-clicking-files-in-nautilus/
[07:05] <reisio> should work once you can get it to use it, though :)
[07:05] <wheatthin> then the heatsync isn't seated right
[07:05] <pleanbean> wilee-nilee, where should I go from here?
[07:06] <wheatthin> pleanbean, make sure fans are all plugged in n stuff
[07:06] <wheatthin> pleanbean, if you're sure /dev/sda is your drive
[07:06] <pleanbean> I'm sure
[07:06] <wheatthin> you must create a new partition table
[07:06] <Mikeandrd> Thanks so much for the help guys. It worked
[07:06] <wheatthin> not GPT..
[07:06] <pleanbean> I can figure out the cpu issue later
[07:07] <wilee-nilee> pleanbean, I would run the bootinfo summary only and start a thread at the ubuntu forums, there is a mod there who focuses on uefi, I would get their help, if no one here is definitive.
[07:07] <pleanbean> Ok…heres the boot info summary
[07:07] <pleanbean> paste.ubuntu.com/6187013
[07:08] <dog__food> disable uefi
[07:08] <pleanbean> dog__food is that to me?
[07:09] <wilee-nilee> pleanbean, be aware that people will just answer you with no real knowledge here.
[07:10] <cfhowlett> wilee-nilee, I resemble that comment!
[07:10] <pleanbean> haha
[07:10] <wilee-nilee> except for you
[07:10] <pleanbean> yep...
[07:10] <cfhowlett> LOL!
[07:11] <wilee-nilee> pleanbean, Here is a thread by that mod. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2147295
[07:12] <dog__food> I had to disable secure  boot before  I w as  able to boot ubuntu
[07:12] <dog__food> there was some problem with video driver
[07:13] <unicorn-lightnin> we are in business!
[07:13] <unicorn-lightnin> thank you Reisio! :D
[07:13] <reisio> unicorn-lightnin: you did all that gui nonsense? :p
[07:14] <unicorn-lightnin> LOL, nah, I just edited the .desktop file and added %f to it. I don't even have to make links for each file type now
[07:14] <reisio> haha
[07:14] <reisio> gj
[07:16] <dog__food> I had several partitions and windows 8 installed  and I just wiped them all.. will it be hard to reinstall windows 8?
[07:16] <reisio> dog__food: not if you have the media, nope
[07:17] <wheatthin> ok so according to this dock,  with a UEFI system, all drives must have an efi partition which the drive must first be partitioned with GPT on all drives you want bootable. Then run the boot-repair and it should fix things
[07:17] <wheatthin> doc*
[07:18] <pleanbean> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFIBooting#Setting_up_GRUB2_.28U.29EFI
[07:18] <wheatthin> this eliminates the 4 primary partitioning deal that MBR is restricted to
[07:18] <pleanbean> I'm reading through this right now, its a little over my head.
[07:19] <reisio> wheatthin: the 4 primary partition deal that hasn't mattered for years, yup :p
[07:19] <wheatthin> reisio, i'm still on an ancient computer... sue me :P
[07:20] <wheatthin> been disabled for 6 years.. kinda out of the loop in ways
[07:20] <reisio> wheatthin: primary partitions matter to software, not hardware, and software is as modern as you want it to be
[07:20] <reisio> just saying :)
[07:21] <wheatthin> well this got rid of the extended partitions that just made illformed slices
[07:21] <ripthejacker> I need to add an alias for a sudo program.Where do I add it?
[07:21] <wheatthin> ripthejacker, .profile
[07:22] <ripthejacker> for sudo?
[07:22] <wheatthin> ripthejacker, or .bashrc
[07:22] <Dr_Willis> for sudo makes no sence
[07:22] <Dr_Willis> your user has alias;s
[07:22] <Dr_Willis> sudo aliasname  woukd run the users alias
[07:22] <ripthejacker> I mean a program that I run using sudo
[07:22] <unicorn-lightnin> sigh, it doesn't work, actually Reisio.. It opens the application, but when the application opens it doesn't show the document I opened, but instead a blank document.
[07:22] <Dr_Willis> sudo dosent read root's .profile befor hand
[07:23] <joe2112> hi there
[07:23] <cfhowlett> joe2112, greetings
[07:23] <wheatthin> like 'alias nmap="sudo nmap
[07:23] <unicorn-lightnin> I think I'll just wait until I can install Ubuntu Tweak in a couple of weeks.
[07:23] <reisio> wheatthin: ill formed?
[07:23] <joe2112> im new to ubuntu can fomeone help me format a usb in a special way?
[07:23] <wheatthin> reisio, I didn't want to say backasswards
[07:23] <ripthejacker> Dr_Willis: so the sudo programs are kept in the same location as normal programs?
[07:23] <reisio> unicorn-lightnin: so... that's using the script I pasted for you, or not?
[07:23] <cfhowlett> joe2112, special?  why not standard?
[07:23] <reisio> wheatthin: yeah it's strange and old, but doesn't actually cause any problems
[07:24] <unicorn-lightnin> nah, it's not using the script. it's using the .desktop trick in the second link you provided
[07:24] <joe2112> http://www.dd-wrt.com/wiki/index.php/OTRW2_%28Optware_the_right_way_Take_2%29
[07:24] <unicorn-lightnin> Microsoft Word appears in the Nautilus Other Programs list, but if I select it, it doesn't open the document
[07:24] <joe2112> cf I am trying to make the proper partitions for astrix on my ddwrt router
[07:25] <reisio> unicorn-lightnin: pointing to the script I gave, or something else?
[07:25] <Abbas-> my ubuntu 13 is acting weird appearance wise in vbox. how do i fix the visual issues? http://i.imgur.com/KD0ldk7.jpg
[07:25] <joe2112> on a usb storage drive so it can run on the usb part of my router
[07:25] <unicorn-lightnin> I can just deal with this for a couple of weeks unti Ubuntu Tweak is available for saucy
[07:25] <unicorn-lightnin> no, to the .desktop file, which already pointed at the application
[07:25] <reisio> okay, well
[07:25] <cfhowlett> joe2112,so ... not an ubuntu question then.  suggest you ask at ddwrt support
[07:26] <reisio> I can only vouch for the script I gave
[07:26] <reisio> which works :p
[07:26] <unicorn-lightnin> I guess I could try to make new .desktop files that point to the script...
[07:26] <wheatthin> Abbas-, I dunno about fixing it, but it seems to be the window manager
[07:26] <wheatthin> unity*
[07:26] <pleanbean> Dr_Willis, can you help me since we left off last night?
[07:26] <joe2112> this is the room xchat dumped me into
[07:27] <joe2112> im new to irc as well
[07:27] <cfhowlett> joe2112, see support options at www.dd-wrt.com
[07:28] <Abbas-> wheatthin
[07:28] <Abbas-> can i disable unity?
[07:28] <Abbas-> i only need this to run air crack
[07:28] <cfhowlett> !nounity|Abbas-,
[07:28] <cfhowlett> !aircrack|Abbas-,
[07:29] <ripthejacker> Dr_Willis: I put the alias in the .bashrc file but it's not working for sudo
[07:29] <wheatthin> Abbas-, of course you can.. gnome-shell (gnome3) is great IMHO
[07:29] <cfhowlett> Abbas-, logout.  click the gear.  choose a different desktop environment.  login.
[07:29] <ripthejacker> wheatthin: the alias in .bashrc is not working for sudo
[07:29] <wheatthin> Abbas-, light desktop manager works too
[07:30] <wheatthin> did you include sudo within the quote?
[07:30] <wheatthin> ripthejacker, and is it a gtk app?
[07:31] <ripthejacker> the alias is available without sudo
[07:31] <ripthejacker> no
[07:31] <ripthejacker> not a gtk app
[07:31] <ripthejacker> *
[07:31] <wheatthin> ripthejacker, but does it require access to eth0?
[07:31] <wheatthin> or wlan0?
[07:31] <ripthejacker> it requires access to /var/log
[07:32] <tengopreguntas> hi everyone, i am writing a bash script. i was wondering,, i have a function, where i want to pass an error message. how do it it from my bash script to the STDERR of terminal where it is being executed?
[07:32] <wheatthin> are you just cat'ing it or something?
[07:33] <ripthejacker> no
[07:34] <ripthejacker> wheatthin: If I run it without sudo the alias works but fails because of no permission, but with sudo it doesn't recognize the alias
[07:34] <wheatthin> ripthejacker, it should as long as the right shell is being accessed
[07:35] <ripthejacker> from the same shell
[07:37] <ripthejacker> It says command not found
[07:38] <wheatthin> ripthejacker, does this command start with a prompt?
[07:39] <ripthejacker> with a prompt?
[07:39] <wheatthin> hping3>
[07:39] <wheatthin> with the >
[07:39] <wheatthin> hping3 was an example
[07:40] <ripthejacker> no
[07:40] <Calinou> to complete the name just use :
[07:40] <Calinou> it's more standard :P
[07:40] <Abbas-> wheatthin
[07:40] <ripthejacker> it doesn't
[07:40] <Abbas-> is there a command i need to run in shell
[07:40] <Abbas-> to disable unity ?
[07:40] <Abbas-> i want a simpler verison of ui . so it doenst run so slow in virtual box
[07:40] <Abbas-> i only need to run and install air crack ng
[07:40] <Dr_Willis> Abbas-:  install a differnt desktop or window manager and select it at the login screen
[07:40] <wheatthin> Abbas-, I think it's sudo update-rc.d unity disable
[07:40] <Calinou> use a difference DE
[07:40] <cfhowlett> Abbas-, log out.  change the desktop environment - no unity.  login.  done.
[07:40] <Dr_Willis> Abbas-:  i use lubuntu on virtualbox
[07:40] <wheatthin> I'm not in the environment to test
[07:41] <Abbas-> how do i change desktop environ  ? cfhowlett
[07:41] <Abbas-> i see login scren
[07:41] <Abbas-> with acount/guest
[07:41] <vj_ccie_sec> Dr_Willis please help me resolve my problem
[07:41] <sled> Hi people, can anyone help me one moment? I already googled but couldnt find anything exhaustive
[07:41] <Dr_Willis> Abbas-:  Install a diffent desktpp or window manager. then the gear/ubuntu round icon has a menui
[07:41] <cfhowlett> Abbas-, logout.  click on the gear and choose
[07:41] <Dr_Willis> vj_ccie_sec:  and whats the issue?
[07:41] <wheatthin> Abbas-, sudo service lightdm stop  sudo service gdm start
[07:42] <Dr_Willis> Abbas-:  for example 'sudo apt-get install jwm' to install jwm. select jwm at the login screen
[07:42] <Abbas-> i only see this cfhowlett ? http://i.imgur.com/FcTP0Kz.jpg
[07:42] <Abbas-> let me try that wheatthin
[07:42] <wheatthin> if gdm isn't install, install it
[07:42] <wheatthin> sudo apt-get install gdm
[07:42] <Abbas-> is it big?
[07:42] <sled> I am adding the foreign architecture armhf with ho "foreign-architecture armhf" >> /etc/dpkg/dpkg.cfg.d/multiarch ... apt-get update complains precise/main and others armhf Packages are not found
[07:42] <Abbas-> i only have mobile data
[07:42] <Abbas-> is it like <50mb?
[07:42] <sled> echo*
[07:42] <Dr_Willis> !info jwm
[07:42] <kongthap> anyone here please help me this question: http://askubuntu.com/questions/352409/please-help-to-fix-error-while-mounting-static
[07:42] <Dr_Willis> jwm is about the tiniest window manager in the repos
[07:43] <ripthejacker> wheatthin: should I add it in the /etc/profile too?
[07:43] <Abbas-> so its gdm ;p not gwm
[07:43] <Abbas-> ok
[07:43] <Abbas-> i try
[07:43] <Dr_Willis> kongthap:  you may want to sumarize the question here for people who cant read the urls
[07:44] <Dr_Willis> Abbas-:  gdm is an alternative to lightdm. gdm is NOT installed by default
[07:44] <Abbas-> ok
[07:44] <Abbas-> i installed gdm
[07:44] <Abbas-> now how do i switch?
[07:44] <Calinou> why do you want to change DMs?
[07:44] <wheatthin> Abbas-, sudo service lightdm stop && sudo service gdm start
[07:44] <Dr_Willis> when you installed gdm it should habve asked what desktop login manager to use by default
[07:45] <kongthap> Dr_Willis, I have a problem with static mounting
[07:45] <wheatthin> so he has easy access to gnome-shell
[07:45] <Abbas-> ok
[07:45] <Abbas-> i chose gdm Dr_Willis
[07:45] <Dr_Willis> kongthap:  and a bit more details to the channel will help..
[07:45] <wheatthin> Abbas-, to make it permanent, sudo update-rc.d lightdm disable && sudo update-rc.d gdm enable
[07:45] <Abbas-> i get this error >  http://i.imgur.com/qx3C61j.jpg
[07:46] <Dr_Willis> wheatthin:  sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm   lets you select gdm. No need to mess with update-rc.d
[07:46] <wheatthin> Dr_Willis, noted :)
[07:46] <Dr_Willis> apt asked when he installed gdm. if he selected  gdm , then gdm is now th edefault
[07:46] <kongthap> Dr_Willis, firstly i wanna ask first about xchat, when I want to reply some one I must type someone_name: or someone_name,
[07:46] <xmetal> i changed the DM (i think by accident) on Mint and it wasn't pretty
[07:47] <xmetal> changed it back and it was fine
[07:47] <Dr_Willis> !tab | kongthap
[07:47]  * Dr_Willis uses ko<tab>
[07:47] <kongthap> I now know about the <tab> to autocomplete
[07:48] <sled> someone?
[07:48] <kongthap> but I don't know what i use to follow someone_name after using the <tab> it's must be ":" or ","
[07:48] <oleb> newbie question: Is it any list of channel commands like !tab ?
[07:49] <Dr_Willis> !alis | oleb
[07:49] <kongthap> Dr_Willis, this is a trial from me, is it working??? Can you get the red text like I did from you?
[07:49] <Dr_Willis> kongthap:  I just use -->    ko<tab> and it fills in kongthap:
[07:50] <ripthejacker> Where do I place aliases for running a program in sudo?
[07:50] <oleb> Dr_Willis: Thanks!
[07:50] <Dr_Willis> kongthap:  the users irc Client handles the job of putting their own nicks in bold or whatever
[07:50] <Dr_Willis> ripthejacker:  you did log out after altering the users ~/.profile ?
[07:51] <kongthap> if I used dr_ <tab> i get "Dr_Willis," instead of "Dr_Willis:" it's really true
[07:51] <ripthejacker> i added in the /etc/bash.bashrc
[07:51] <ripthejacker> Dr_Willis: Do I need to logout?
[07:51] <Dr_Willis> ripthejacker:  so you need to log out/back in. or 'source /the/file'
[07:52] <Dr_Willis> ripthejacker:  its not going to automatically reread/add the changes to an existing shell
[07:52] <ripthejacker> Dr_Willis: I added in the user .bashrc file
[07:52] <Dr_Willis> ripthejacker:  so do a 'source .bashrc'
[07:52] <ripthejacker> and I opened a new shell
[07:52] <Dr_Willis> .bashrc has several alias's allready in it i notice.
[07:53] <ripthejacker> Dr_Willis: the command is running without sudo , but with sudo I get command not found.
[07:53] <Dr_Willis> sudo -s will use the alias's it seems. but 'sudo' by itself dosent
[07:53] <Dr_Willis> im used to using sudo -s
[07:54] <Dr_Willis> tested with 'sudo ll'
[07:54] <kongthap> I have an error with static mouting
[07:54] <Dr_Willis> and sudo -s, then ll
[07:54] <kongthap> this is my setting at /etc/fstab: UUID=66940c06-8730-4468-8f02-011d5cf42646 /               ext4    errors=remount-ro 0       1
[07:54] <ripthejacker> Dr_Willis: not working for me
[07:54] <ripthejacker> says ll command not found
[07:55] <ripthejacker> /bin/bash: ll: command not found
[07:55] <Dr_Willis> ripthejacker:  as i said. it seems sudo dosent follow alias;s but sudo -s does
[07:55] <ripthejacker> Yes I did sudo -s
[07:55] <ripthejacker> sudo -s ll
[07:55] <sled> I am adding the foreign architecture armhf with echo "foreign-architecture armhf" >> /etc/dpkg/dpkg.cfg.d/multiarch ... apt-get update complains precise/main and others armhf Packages are not found
[07:55] <kongthap> i'm sure UUID is right, I got error at the startup screen, i must press "s" to continue but I still can boot and login
[07:55] <ronin> does anyone know why I can't access 'test' directory, my username is ronin: http://codepad.org/90Rf3ViM
[07:56] <Dr_Willis> http://askubuntu.com/questions/22037/aliases-not-available-when-using-sudo
[07:57] <Dr_Willis> alias sudo='sudo '
[07:57] <otak> kongthap: probably you must add ,auto next to errors=remount-ro
[07:57] <Dr_Willis> then 'sudo ll' works ;)
[07:57] <wheatthin> put it in .bashrc  not .profile
[07:57] <wheatthin> in   ~/.bashrc
[07:58] <kongthap> otak: "UUID=66940c06-8730-4468-8f02-011d5cf42646 /               ext4    errors=remount-ro-auto 0       1"???
[07:58] <ripthejacker> Dr_Willis: yes I read that but I thought it was just a workaround and there must be some official way to do it.
[07:58] <Dr_Willis> so to get a sudo working with alias's you have to have the sudo alias also
[07:58] <wheatthin> and then it'll work
[07:58] <ripthejacker> Dr_Willis: guess it's the only way
[07:58] <wheatthin> ripthejacker,
[07:58] <Dr_Willis> ripthejacker:  its not a work around.. its how bash works
[07:58] <ripthejacker> wheatthin: yes I put it in bashrc, seems like sudo can't run aliases normally
[07:58] <wheatthin> ripthejacker, yes it can
[07:59] <ripthejacker> It doesn't work for me. Even sudo ll doesn't work
[07:59] <wheatthin> ripthejacker, did you renew the terminal afterwards?
[07:59] <ripthejacker> yes
[08:00] <wheatthin> and it's .bashrc and not bashrc
[08:00] <wheatthin> and it's in your user home directory
[08:00] <ripthejacker> yes I know, The alias is working fine without sudo
[08:00] <ripthejacker> If I did in a wrong file , it wouldn't work right
[08:01] <otak> I meant auto,errors=remount-ro   but I think auto is default so that might not be your problem
[08:01] <wheatthin> ripthejacker,  take it out of .profile and try again if you hadn't already
[08:01] <wheatthin> I was getting the same error with the command not found until I put it in the ~/.bashrc
[08:01] <kongthap> otak: would you mind look at my question: http://askubuntu.com/questions/352409/please-help-to-fix-error-while-mounting-static
[08:02] <wheatthin> now it works just fine
[08:02] <ripthejacker> Dr_Willis: it's working. alias sudo did the trick. Thanks
[08:02] <wheatthin> ***slaps forehead***
[08:03] <ripthejacker> wheatthin: The error is not because I put in the wrong file
[08:03] <ripthejacker> wheatthin: It's because alias don't work with sudo
[08:03] <wheatthin> yes it does~!
[08:03] <wheatthin> I'm using it right this second
[08:03] <ripthejacker> just add : alias sudo='sudo ' in the .bashrc
[08:04] <ripthejacker> and it will work
[08:04] <ripthejacker> maybe you had already added that
[08:04] <wheatthin> no.. I showed you my whole alias file
[08:04] <wheatthin> lol
[08:04] <wheatthin> wheatthin@wheatthin:~$ cat ~/.bashrc
[08:05] <wheatthin> and it came back alias hping="sudo hping3"
[08:05] <wheatthin> gotta use the double quotes
[08:06] <ripthejacker> then you may have set the alias in some other file. Or your shell may be magic :P
[08:06] <wheatthin> ripthejacker, I just did it for your example
[08:06] <wheatthin> Use double quotes and it'll work
[08:06] <wheatthin> " " not ' '
[08:07] <ripthejacker> wheatthin: no even with double quotes it's not working
[08:08] <wheatthin> it will once you close the terminal and open another one
[08:08] <ripthejacker> but it's ok Dr_Willis suggested a method and it works
[08:08] <kongthap> i cannot start "deluge 1.3.6-0ubuntu2", it was ok before how to fix this?  "ubuntu 13.04"
[08:08] <ripthejacker> wheatthin: I was doing that all the time, I know you have to open new shell
[08:09] <wheatthin> all I know is I didn't add hping3 to anything until you had this problem..  lol and it's working perfectly fine for me.. might wanna check your /etc/sudoers file
[08:09] <ItsMeLenny> how do i run java7 while java6 is also installed
[08:09] <ripthejacker> wheatthin: run sudo ll
[08:09] <ripthejacker> what do you get?
[08:10] <wheatthin> you don't type sudo 11
[08:10] <wheatthin> you just type  11
[08:10] <Calinou> it's ll not 11
[08:10] <wheatthin> and sudo executes
[08:11] <ripthejacker> wheatthin: http://askubuntu.com/questions/22037/aliases-not-available-when-using-sudo
[08:11] <ripthejacker> I'm not the only one with the issue
[08:11] <wheatthin> paste.ubuntu.com/6187013
[08:12] <wheatthin> You're not getting how alias and sudo works
[08:12] <wheatthin> errr
[08:12] <wheatthin> sorry
[08:12] <wheatthin> alias 11="sudo hping3"...  I type    11 in the new terminal, and it runs sudo hping3
[08:13] <Wildbill7459> @find netflix
[08:13] <DJones> !netflix | Wildbill7459
[08:13] <otak> kongthap: sorry I can't see anything wrong, it looks just like mine, ask again in a minute or two
[08:13] <ripthejacker> wheatthin: :|
[08:13] <wheatthin> ripthejacker, just do it :)
[08:13] <ripthejacker> I don't want to run sudo in an alias.
[08:14] <ripthejacker> I want to run alias as sudo
[08:14] <wheatthin> You gotta in order to have sudo work with it
[08:14] <kongthap> otak: thanks for you help, can you guide me how to check the log file?
[08:14] <wheatthin> so you want to add on options to sudo and then just type sudo as a shortcut?
[08:15] <kongthap> otak: so I can provide more information to ask later
[08:15] <ripthejacker> wheatthin: your solution won't work if I don't want to run the program as sudo
[08:15] <wheatthin> the program sudo runs via alias to run that and the intended program you want to give permissions to
[08:15] <wheatthin> duh
[08:16] <wheatthin> if you want to use sudo -v -AknS
[08:16] <wheatthin> then it'll be     alias sudo="sudo -v AknS'
[08:17] <wheatthin> then you'll be able to use it as  sudo hping3   or whatever program you want to run
[08:17] <habanany> Join\ #ruby
[08:17] <ripthejacker> "/j #ruby"
[08:17] <auronandace> habanany: /join #ruby
[08:17] <wheatthin> and it'll carry out    sudo -v AknS hping3
[08:18] <w0rp> How much space would people allocate for an Ubuntu install nowadays? 64GB?
[08:18] <wheatthin> w0rp, minimum 8gb for a smooth full install
[08:18] <auronandace> w0rp: depends what you'll do with it, i can get by with 10gb
[08:18] <ripthejacker> wheatthin: yeah that's one solution to the sudo problem
[08:18] <w0rp> I'll try 32GB, I think.
[08:19] <cfhowlett> w0rp, system runs around 10 gigs.
[08:20] <w0rp> I'm trying to account for most of the system + MySQL data + dev tools + images and other binary files.
[08:20] <wheatthin> ripthejacker, but if you want to run a specific program like nmap with sudo privs as an alias,       alias nmap="sudo nmap"
[08:20] <wheatthin> you can also tack on the options with the -
[08:21] <wheatthin> or you can type    nmap -vvvv  domain.com or wahtever and it'll run with sudo privs
[08:21] <ripthejacker> wheatthin: I didn't think of it that way.
[08:22] <cfhowlett> W0rp are you installing a server?
[08:22] <w0rp> It's a small dev machine running a local copy of a webserver.
[08:22] <ripthejacker> wheatthin: but you could do it.
[08:22] <reisio> 32 should be plenty
[08:22] <reisio> I wish 32gb ssds were easier to get hold of
[08:22] <cfhowlett> w0rp, might want to stop in at #ubuntu-server
[08:22] <w0rp> Cool, I'll do that.
[08:22] <reisio> who needs 128gb of ss :p
[08:23] <reisio> I'd rather have the cash
[08:23] <wheatthin> ME~!
[08:23] <wheatthin> create a ramdrive :P
[08:23] <Abbas-> wheatthin i kepe getting this error?
[08:23] <Abbas-> http://i.imgur.com/AnIFdVj.jpg
[08:23] <reisio> would take a lot more to fit all my data on it, so may as well be just the OS
[08:23] <ripthejacker> wheatthin: alternatively you can do the way Dr_Willis suggested , that way you don't have to add the word sudo in your alias
[08:23] <Norpan_> Hi! I just found an old CD with ubuntu 10.04 LTS , is it okey to install this one and then update it to 13.04?
[08:23] <wheatthin> Abbas-, it's gdm sir
[08:23] <Norpan_> I have no other media at this point to install it
[08:23] <Dr_Willis> Norpan_:  that will take a lot of time.
[08:24] <Dr_Willis> Norpan_:  no flah drives?
[08:24] <reisio> could work, though, sure
[08:24] <Norpan_> Dr_Willis: it will? how come? no, i have one but its apprently lost...
[08:24] <Dr_Willis> Norpan_:  it basically has to download and install EVERY package to upgrade to the newer releases.. so each release  you upgrade to will be like 700+mb of downloads
[08:24] <otak> kongthap: you can try sudo mount -t ext4 LABEL="storage1" /mnt/storage1
[08:25] <Abbas-> wheatthin i tried that too earlier. it keep getting fork-failed error. http://i.imgur.com/igXCDIW.jpg
[08:25] <Dr_Willis> !grub2
[08:25] <wheatthin> sudo dpkg --reconfigure gdm
[08:25] <Dr_Willis> Norpan_:  if 10.04 used grub2 - you could install it then set up grub2 to boot the iso files for newer releases :)  and install from them VERY quickly. but thats a bit awkward.
[08:25] <Norpan_> Dr_Willis: holy cow..how many releases are there? i have 100mbit fiber and downloads often is 11MB/s should it still take really long time?
[08:26] <Dr_Willis> Norpan_:  the version # is the year/month of release. You upgrade from LTS to LTS. OR from each release to the next release.
[08:26] <wheatthin> Norpan_, You're best likely to answer that with a bittorrent session lol
[08:26] <Abbas-> wheatthin , what next now? :) http://i.imgur.com/HFuh4mv.jpg
[08:27] <reisio> technically you could do that with grub legacy as well, it's just more involved
[08:27] <kongthap> otak: the command "sudo mount" will auto re-mount everytime at startup????
[08:27] <Norpan_> wheatthin: yeah ok, i just figured if it was ONLY download that takes long or generally the installingthing that takes really long time..
[08:27] <wheatthin> Norpan_, depends on the repository server you use really.. if you use a close one, I get 2.0+MB/sec
[08:27] <wheatthin> on my 28mbps connection
[08:27] <Norpan_> Dr_Willis: i have a 20gb partition , perhaps i could make that as a bootable device
[08:28] <wheatthin> and it only takes me about 5 minutes or so
[08:28] <wheatthin> to download
[08:28] <cfhowlett> wheatthin, took me 5 years on ubuntu to learn that I could and should localize my server.
[08:28] <Norpan_> wheatthin: ok, crap hrhr, takes less time to travel to the nearest village and buy a USB key
[08:29] <wheatthin> lol well that's on my slow 28mbps connection :)
[08:29] <Norpan_> I must start in my 10.04 LTS CD for my internet to wok, in windows 8 it just says unadentified network.. crappy os
[08:29] <wheatthin> was getting up to 3.4MB/sec but 2.0+ average
[08:29] <otak> kongthap: that will tell you if the partition can be mounted now, so we think if the problem is with the partition or the boot sequence
[08:29] <Norpan_> wheatthin: what connection do you have
[08:29] <wheatthin> just a 28mbps cable connection
[08:31] <kongthap> otak: thanks i will try, but for now still wonder i just have only the root partition and swap to mount but why still get error all the time at startup...
[08:31] <wheatthin> Abbas-, sorry  dpkg-reconfigure gdm
[08:32] <wheatthin> I keep thinking reconfigure was a tac option
[08:33] <Norpan_> wheatthin: 28mbps?
[08:33] <wheatthin> yup
[08:33] <otak> kongthap: look at your /etc/fstab closely, look at this: http://askubuntu.com/questions/295516/an-error-occurred-while-mounting-static
[08:34] <Abbas-> i gett his wheatthin > http://i.imgur.com/HFuh4mv.jpg
[08:34] <Norpan_> wheatthin: i have 100
[08:34] <wheatthin> Abbas-, sorry  dpkg-reconfigure gdm
[08:35] <wheatthin> sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm
[08:35] <Abbas-> wheatthin > output > http://i.imgur.com/nhdCPfq.jpg
[08:36] <kongthap> nautilus will display all available partitions on my disk (but not yet mounting them), if I clicked any partitions to mount i can access them at /media/user_name/partition_label_name/ so what the different compare to static mounting partition to mnt/whatever_name/?
[08:36] <wheatthin> Norpan_, I'm jealous :) one day I tell ya.. one day I'll have a server worthy of a connection :)
[08:36] <kongthap> otak: I will take a look, thanks :)
[08:36] <otak> kongthap: I'm pretty sure that's it
[08:36] <wheatthin> Abbas-, ok, so it said it's not installed, like I said before, gotta install it
[08:36] <wheatthin> sudo apt-get install gdm
[08:36] <Abbas-> yeah i tried that
[08:36] <Abbas-> i keep getting this error
[08:36] <Abbas-> lemme try again
[08:36] <kongthap> otak: thanks you've been very helpful :)
[08:37] <hramrach> hello
[08:37] <reisio> kongthap: just that, /media/ is for dynamic
[08:37] <reisio> hramrach: hi
[08:37] <hramrach> my lightdm does not start: http://paste.debian.net/49323/
[08:37] <hramrach> when I run Xorg -retro I get the X pattern on screen
[08:37] <kongthap> reisio: if I statically mounted the partition it won't show in /media/ anymore right?
[08:37] <xwalk> I'm having a problem on Ubuntu 12.04.3 with my Asus G75VW's external sub-woofer not being recognized by the alsa-mixer. I've tried the suggested work arounds at http://askubuntu.com/questions/136968/how-to-make-the-internal-subwoofer-work-on-an-asus-g73jw and the links contained within and have not seen any results indicating the speaker has become active. Other links I have cover identical work-arounds that have not yielded any resul
[08:38] <reisio> kongthap: hopefully not
[08:38] <hramrach> any idea what is missing for lightdm to start a X server
[08:38] <Abbas-> i ran it wheatthin it shows this error  > http://i.imgur.com/Em6t6HR.jpg
[08:38] <kongthap> reisio: thanks :)
[08:38] <reisio> kongthap: you can manually mount something practically anywhere, but /mnt/ is the traditional place
[08:38] <reisio> just as /media/ is now used mostly for dynamic mounts
[08:38] <kongthap> reisio: please also help me with this question: http://askubuntu.com/questions/352409/please-help-to-fix-error-while-mounting-static
[08:39] <wheatthin> Abbas-,  you can try sudo apt-get remove metacity and try it again
[08:40] <reisio> kongthap: so it gives you an error that doesn't stop you from booting?
[08:41] <wheatthin> Abbas-, if that doesn't work   sudo apt-get clean all
[08:41] <otak> reisio: look at the start of /etc/fstab in kongthap's post, needs a # right?
[08:41] <Abbas-> ok ty wheatthin i m trying clena all
[08:41] <reisio> he said he "changed it back", it could be anything now
[08:42] <Norpan_> wheatthin: good luck :)
[08:42] <kongthap> reisio: yes, I still and always get that error screen i must press "s" to continue i don't know what is the problem so far, but after login I can use the system just like normal
[08:42] <reisio> otak: yeah :)
[08:42] <wheatthin> Norpan_, thanks :).. Doing all this for others.. I'm personally on a hackintosh lol
[08:42] <reisio> kongthap: otak's saying maybe you uncommented the first line
[08:43] <reisio> of /etc/fstab
[08:44] <kongthap> reisio: "uncomment" means get rid of that line???
[08:44] <kongthap> otak: "uncomment" means get rid of that line???
[08:44] <wheatthin> kongthap, no..
[08:44] <wheatthin> it means get rid of the #
[08:44] <wheatthin> at the beginning
[08:44] <otak> no
[08:44] <reisio> that is, put it back
[08:44] <otak> y
[08:45] <Norpan_> wheatthin: i have always been intrested in trying hackintosh..but it seems far to complicated and doesn't work so good even after all the trouble.. you must have exact right hardware.?
[08:46] <SmellyCat> I can't seem to log in as my user from the greeter. It seems the xsession stops and I'm back at the greeter. I have created an other user and that user can log in from the greeter. Where do I start to find the problem?
[08:46] <wheatthin> Norpan_, Ehh.. I'm stuck on snow leopard because of older system, but yeah it's running great...
[08:46] <ActionParsnip> SmellyCat: boot to root recovery console and chown your user's entire home directory to your user
[08:47] <wheatthin> need a UEFI system for troubless installs over 10.7.x
[08:47] <reisio> kongthap: get it? :)
[08:47] <Norpan_> wheatthin: that is awesome, but you have the "right" hardware? Im trying to find a up-to-date guide to install on i7 with amd radeon 7950 and pa55-ud4 gigabyte motherboard..im lost before i begin haha
[08:47] <SmellyCat> ActionParsnip: Any dirs/files in particular? I don't want to overwrite permissions onm just all files
[08:48] <kongthap> otak: i think i must accidently deleted # because poor  using vim.
[08:48] <wheatthin> Norpan_, I'd use a newer nvidia actually, but other than that, you shouldn't have a problem
[08:48] <reisio> kongthap: mmmhmmm
[08:48] <SmellyCat> ActionParsnip: I have chmod 664 .Xauthority already btw. didn't help
[08:48] <kongthap> reisio: i think i must accidently deleted # because poor  using vim, i got it now, thanks really shame on me :)
[08:48] <reisio> next time make a copy of the file, then you can easily fully revert it
[08:48] <reisio> kongthap: your storage mount working now, too?
[08:49] <otak> kongthap:  vim is like a magic wand ;P
[08:49] <Norpan_> wheatthin: i saved a few months to afford this card, im not changing hah :)
[08:49] <SmellyCat> ActionParsnip: And does it have to be recovery console? CRTL-ALT-F1 ok too, right?
[08:50] <kongthap> reisio: from now on i would try to static mount the other partition including ntfs...
[08:50] <Norpan_> wheatthin: possibly i made a misstake because linux doesn't run well under AMD ive heard
[08:50] <DzAirmaX> hey guyz !!
[08:50] <kongthap> otak: still remember the first time using vim, don't even know how to quit so click the close button of the terminal :P
[08:50] <wheatthin> Norpan_, no no.. nvidia video card :)
[08:50] <wheatthin> i7 is perfect for it
[08:50] <DzAirmaX> I have one little question for you
[08:51] <DzAirmaX> I noticed that the motd is not applyed on the first login on the machine : always on the second login time, is that normal ?
[08:51] <quietone> what to use to burn an audio cd? Brasero has failed twice for me
[08:52] <reisio> Norpan_: runs fine
[08:52] <reisio> quietone: I'd use a command, myself
[08:52] <kongthap> reisio: this time i still backup /etc/fstab for sure, the first time editing this file, i cannot boot the system at all so lucky for poor ubuntu skill like me :P
[08:52] <reisio> quietone: ...if it were 10 years ago and I still burnt CDs
[08:52] <kongthap> reisio: this time *i will
[08:52] <reisio> kongthap: :)
[08:52] <DJones> quietone: I use either K3b or Gnomebaker
[08:53] <kongthap> reisio, otak you guys rock!
[08:53] <kongthap> thanks
[08:54] <DzAirmaX> so nobody had encouter this problem before ?
[08:54] <otak> kongthap: you're welcome, have fun!
[08:54] <reisio> DzAirmaX: a box without a DE?
[08:55] <DzAirmaX> reisio : its a 13.10 server without DE
[08:55] <reisio> that's odd
[08:55] <reisio> might ask #ubuntu-server
[08:55] <DzAirmaX> hmm
[08:56] <DzAirmaX> yeah so when I ssh the machine after a fresh reboot, not motd
[08:56] <wheatthin> might have to do with landscape
[08:57] <DzAirmaX> wheatthin : landscape ?
[08:58] <wheatthin> DzAirmaX, yeah landscape client gets buggy some time on server
[08:58] <wheatthin> it shows the motd with the uptime and other stuff
[08:58] <DzAirmaX> wheatthin : is there a log for this landscape ?
[08:59] <wheatthin> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1077244
[09:02] <DzAirmaX> wheatthin : ok thans for your help
[09:02] <DzAirmaX> wheatthin : my server config is weird because I dont even have the /etc/motd but I have a motd opening up after the second login :)
[09:03] <wheatthin> scroll down to the middle of that link
[09:04] <wheatthin> it's cause default is dynamically linking via motd scripts
[09:04] <kongthap> what is the easiest way to scan disk/partition for error?
[09:04] <wheatthin> kong fsck
[09:07] <Dr_Willis> Norpan_:  10.04 -> 10.10 -> 11.04.. !fsck
[09:07] <Dr_Willis> oops
[09:07] <Dr_Willis> !fsck
[09:08] <SmellyCat> I can't log in from the lightdm greeter as a certain user. chown -R $USER:$USER $HOME did not solve the problem. Any idea?
[09:08] <wheatthin> SmellyCat, did you change users's home?
[09:08] <Dr_Willis> SmellyCat:  remove your .Xauthority file, for a start. (or rename it)
[09:09] <DzAirmaX> wheatthin : motd present on my config lol
[09:09] <Dr_Willis> then if it still fails. move/rename the .config dir and other setting files to see if any are causing the issue
[09:09] <DzAirmaX> wheatthin : the /etc/motd
[09:09] <SmellyCat> Dr_Willis: Thanks, that did the trick!
[09:10] <Dr_Willis> SmellyCat:  and i have NO idea why it breaks that way
[09:10] <Dr_Willis> SmellyCat:  but its like a daily question/fix in here
[09:10] <lirarkatt> how do you change your name in irssi?
[09:11] <Dr_Willis> lirarkatt:  /nick Bill_Gates
[09:11] <SmellyCat> Dr_Willis: I really wonder that myself. I recall vaguely having this problem before. I'm glad I know my way around the shell... This is a really horrible problem for the regular user...
[09:11] <lirarkatt> ty
[09:11] <Dr_Willis> SmellyCat:  i think it has somthing to do with using sudo to run gui apps. instead of gksudo. but  cant really prove that
[09:12] <wheatthin> Dr_Willis, i'm thinking it's running startx or xsession using sudo
[09:12] <wheatthin> initially
[09:12] <Dr_Willis> wheatthin:  it happens way to often to people that would never do that. :)
[09:12] <wheatthin> it does tho
[09:12] <wheatthin> :)
[09:13] <wheatthin> probably an rc error
[09:13] <wheatthin> .rc*
[09:13] <SmellyCat> Dr_Willis: I'm pretty sure I didn't do that yesterday. Not directly anyway. I did notice .Xauthority had 600 perms. After chmod 664 that file and trying a login, it was back to 600 perms.
[09:14] <wheatthin> SmellyCat, you gotta change the permissions for the whole user folder and all the visible and invisible files
[09:14] <Dr_Willis> Im not even really sure what .Xauthority does.. other then some sort of security
[09:14] <kongthap> ubottu: "sudo touch /forcefsck && sudo shutdown -r now" <- i just type all of this at once right?
[09:14] <SmellyCat> Dr_Willis: I think with MIR it'll be gone anyway :)
[09:14] <wheatthin> xauthority is initialized when creating an xsession
[09:15] <Dr_Willis> kongthap:  yes.. or use a live cd or rcovery mode and  fsck by hand
[09:15] <ko0o0ky> pease
[09:15] <Dr_Willis> SmellyCat:  mir is aparently getting pushed back  (or xmir) from wht i just saw on webupd8
[09:15] <wheatthin> to check for proper tty perms for x to start
[09:15] <ko0o0ky> hello guys
[09:15] <reisio> 'lo
[09:16] <ko0o0ky> how can I setup vidalia
[09:16] <Dr_Willis> !tor
[09:16] <SmellyCat> Dr_Willis: Well, X will be replaced sooner or later. Thanks for the help and bb.
[09:16] <wheatthin> ko0o0ky, I wouldn't.. just install tor-socks and privoxy
[09:16] <Dr_Willis> SmellyCat:  they have been trying to replace it for years. ;)
[09:16] <gordonjcp> SmellyCat: it's not really a big deal since most people won't be renaming users ;-)
[09:16] <reisio> given that most(?) of the X guys are working on wayland now, I'm guessing sooner
[09:16] <kongthap> Dr_Willis: yesterday the power was off, so i didn't shutdown, i have to fsck manually or it was done already at the previous booting???
[09:17] <Dr_Willis> kongthap:  its supposed to do it automatically if the filesystem was not unmounted cleanly
[09:17] <Dr_Willis> kongthap:  a fsck may happen so fast at boot time you dont even notice it
[09:17] <reisio> kongthap: those lines in /etc/fstab end in 0 0?
[09:18] <kongthap> reisio: "UUID=66940c06-8730-4468-8f02-011d5cf42646 /               ext4    errors=remount-ro 0       1"
[09:18] <reisio> is it / you were worried about?
[09:18] <ko0o0ky> is that what you can do for me?
[09:19] <reisio> ko0o0ky: what's the problem?
[09:19] <kongthap> reisio: it was "0 1" so i think i need " 0 0", how to do think?
[09:19] <kongthap> reisio: ***it was "0 1" so i think i need " 0 1", how to do think?
[09:19] <Dr_Willis> kongthap:  i think they use 0 1    for a reason. :)
[09:20] <SmellyCat> gordonjcp: ?? I didn't rename a user... anyway...
[09:20] <ko0o0ky> vidalia was unble to start tor
[09:20] <ko0o0ky> why
[09:20] <wheatthin> ko0o0ky, don't use vidalia
[09:20] <kongthap> reisio: i just add a line: "UUID=9b7ac413-1ddf-4c2e-a74d-75651d6bd37c /mnt/storage1   ext4    defaults          0       2", how do you think?
[09:21] <ko0o0ky> what shuld I use
[09:21] <wheatthin> ko0o0ky, use tor-socks and privoxy.. it's headless but it does the same job
[09:21] <gordonjcp> SmellyCat: did you run something GUI as root?
[09:21] <reisio> kongthap: should be fine, yup
[09:21] <kongthap> Dr_Willis: i think so, and i just add a line: "UUID=9b7ac413-1ddf-4c2e-a74d-75651d6bd37c /mnt/storage1   ext4    defaults          0       2", how do you think?
[09:21] <Dr_Willis> is 0 2 even a valid option?
[09:21] <reisio> yeah
[09:21] <Dr_Willis> kongthap:  my / entry has '0 1'
[09:21] <reisio> 2 means lower priority than 1
[09:21] <quietone> DJones, thank you better. Just doesn't work in the stereo
[09:21] <reisio> 1 being a better idea for /
[09:21] <kongthap> reisio: i agree
[09:21] <ko0o0ky> thank you
[09:21] <SmellyCat> gordonjcp: I don't think so, but I'm not 100% sure. (I'm moving to nick Mouzz btw)
[09:22] <ko0o0ky> did firefox brw need to setup
[09:22] <ko0o0ky> does
[09:22] <Dr_Willis> you have to configure firefox to use tor - i belive.
[09:22] <Dr_Willis> or use the socks/proxy at least
[09:22] <wheatthin> you can setup firefox, or via proxy extension for firefox
[09:23] <wheatthin> if you're using privoxy too, you gotta configure privoxy/config to use socks5 127.0.0.1:9050
[09:23] <wheatthin> forward settings
[09:25] <quietone> how do I get the song title to be 'burned' on an audio cd?
[09:25] <wheatthin> ko0o0ky, listen-address  67.187.147.220:8118  (or use whatever your ip is)
[09:26] <wheatthin> ko0o0ky, forward-socks5   /               127.0.0.1:9050 .
[09:26] <wheatthin> uncheck that last one
[09:26] <reisio> quietone: you'd probably need a cue file
[09:26] <wheatthin> save the file and sudo service privoxy restart
[09:27] <quietone> reisio, I burned that with Brasero and it doesn't play in stereo
[09:27] <Dr_Willis> quietone:  for me - if i use k3b, and the mp3 file has the right tags  it does it ive noticed.
[09:27] <wheatthin> ko0o0ky, then you can configure firefox to use your internal IP and port 8118
[09:27] <reisio> quietone: what makes you think it's a stereo file?
[09:28] <quietone> reisio, I don't know what a stereo file is. I mean when I put the CD I burned into the stereo it doesn't play
[09:28] <Dr_Willis> quietone:  how old is the   cd player? it could be it cant read cd+r or -r or whatver
[09:29] <reisio> oh "the stereo"
[09:29] <quietone> Dr_Willis, oh. about 17 yrs
[09:29] <Dr_Willis> reisio:  :) kids these days.,
[09:29] <reisio> quietone: unfortunately that could be caused by a great many things
[09:29] <reisio> Dr_Willis: heh
[09:29] <reisio> "the hifi"
[09:29] <wheatthin> age is one
[09:29] <Dr_Willis> quietone:  then its VERY likely it cant read cd+-r/rw
[09:29] <wheatthin> LOL
[09:30] <wheatthin> quietone, it must be cd-r only then
[09:30] <Dr_Willis> i was thinking cd+r was more compatible with old cd players. but its been years since i last had to worry about it
[09:30] <reisio> basically, in the time you've spent on this, you probably could've gone and bought a cheap computer to use as a media pc, replacing your CD player
[09:30] <quietone> Dr_Willis, then what are the music CDs we buy, they aren't CD+r
[09:30] <reisio> s/CD/usb or network/
[09:30] <wheatthin> they are mp3's now,
[09:30] <Dr_Willis> quietone:  No idea. they could be Stamped Cd's for all i know.
[09:31] <quietone> reisio, I am unemployed
[09:31] <wheatthin> :) so doesn't matter.. +r was data..  -r was media
[09:31] <Dr_Willis> backin the old days - we used to argue over what was better.. +r or -r... and make tools out of rocks..
[09:32]  * Dr_Willis rocks back and forth in his rocking chair and  smokes his pipe..
[09:32] <wheatthin> that's how we made coasters :D
[09:32] <kdelwat> I remember going through stacks of CD's looking for a blank one
[09:32] <wheatthin> I do that with dvd's
[09:32] <wheatthin> lol
[09:32] <Dr_Willis> back when you had to recompile your kernel just to support a cd burner! Now those where the good linux days!
[09:32] <reisio> you talking about DVD-R vs DVD+R?
[09:33] <reisio> doesn't matter, it's all a waste of time
[09:33] <wheatthin> lol
[09:33] <llutz> there are dvd-+r but not cd+r
[09:33] <reisio> quietone: if you spend all your time authoring CDs, you're going to remain unemployed
[09:33] <reisio> not an efficient use of time
[09:33] <Dr_Willis> My Car 'stero' can rip music cds  to its internal hard drive. :)
[09:33] <wheatthin> might as well be clone drives huh?
[09:33] <reisio> in-car hifi
[09:34] <quietone> reisio, thats a bit unkind
[09:34] <reisio> nah, it'll help you stop wasting your time
[09:35] <wheatthin> I'm unemployed too.. but disabled
[09:35] <reisio> there is no earning tier for which it is not a waste of time to burn a CD
[09:36] <kongthap> i successfully mount the other partitions :)
[09:37] <wheatthin> congrats
[09:38] <reisio> gj
[09:38] <kongthap> after static mounting, i don't see the other partitions from the "device pane" of nautilus, i must access the partition via /mnt/ is this the way it is?
[09:38] <reisio> kongthap: you can make a "bookmark"
[09:38] <reisio> or favorite or whatever your file manager calls them
[09:39] <ActionParsnip> kongthap: are theyt internel partitions or USB/SD cad based?
[09:39] <wheatthin> kongthap, it'll mount in /media .. could mount in /media/<username/<mntname>
[09:40] <kongthap> ActionParsnip: it's a partition on the same disk as root partition
[09:41] <kongthap> reisio: i saw the bookmark dialog on nautilus but i think i cannot add new one, i only saw "delete" and "sort" buttons
[09:41] <wheatthin> kongthap, drag and drop the folder to the left side
[09:41] <wheatthin> of nautilis
[09:41] <Dr_Willis> drag/drop a folder to the left side panel where the nautilus bookmarks are ;)
[09:41] <Dr_Willis> theres also a keyboard shortcut i think
[09:41] <kongthap> wheatthin: i see, thanks :)
[09:41] <wheatthin> Dr_Willis, beat ya :D
[09:41] <Dr_Willis> no you dident. ;P
[09:41] <Dr_Willis> i saw my text first
[09:41] <wheatthin> uhuh~! :D
[09:42] <wheatthin> lol
[09:42] <reisio> kongthap: you can
[09:42] <Dr_Willis> that feature will most likely get removed from the next nautilus anyway. its to complex for users to handle
[09:42] <Dr_Willis> bbl.
[09:43] <kongthap> reisio: i can drag but i cannot drop
[09:44] <kongthap> wheatthin: i can drag but i cannot drop
[09:44] <wheatthin> kongthap, drag, and drop it in the lower left
[09:44] <kongthap> wheatthin: dragging "storage1" folder right???
[09:45] <wheatthin> kongthap, honestly, I dunno which folder you want shortcutted to the side
[09:46] <kongthap> wheatthin: i mounted my partition to /mnt/storage1/
[09:46] <wheatthin> it's separated by devices and then system shortcuts
[09:46] <kongthap> wheatthin: so i must drag "storage1" folder from nautilus right?
[09:46] <hacyard> hello everyone, how should I configure clawsmail? which settings will be better? SSL? STARTTLS?
[09:46] <wheatthin> so yeah change your directory in nautilus to /mnt  drag storage1 and drop it in the lower left hand side
[09:47] <wheatthin> kongthap, it's separated by devices and then shortcuts to user folders on the filesystem
[09:48] <gregoryfenton> Hi all. Any idea why I am getting 404 errors when I am trying to do apt-get update? Specifically the Packages file is 404ing although Packages.bz2 and Packages.gz are at the same location,  for example W: Failed to fetch http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/raring-backports/multiverse/binary-i386/Packages  404  Not Found [IP: 91.189.91.13 80]
[09:48] <quiet1> Dr_Willis, reisio, DJones thanks for your help
[09:48] <quiet1> goodnight
[09:48] <wheatthin> gregoryfenton, try sudo apt-get clean all
[09:48] <wheatthin> and try again
[09:48] <gregoryfenton> still 404ing wheatthin
[09:49] <wheatthin> can you ping google.com?
[09:49] <hacyard> or which one would you recommend to use? clawsmail or thunderbird?
[09:49] <gregoryfenton> "64 bytes from fa-in-f138.1e100.net (173.194.70.138): icmp_req=1 ttl=50 time=14.8 ms"
[09:49] <wheatthin> hacyard, neither.. gmail interface is plenty.. saves room on physical drive too
[09:50] <kongthap> wheatthin: i'm looking for a way to get directly to /mnt/storage1/ , it's a bit quicker to got mnt -> storage1, if can be possible
[09:50] <wheatthin> gregoryfenton, try a new repository
[09:50] <mainte> hello everyone, which email client would you recommend? thunderbird or clawsmail?
[09:51] <vusie> mainte: thunderbird
[09:51] <ikonia> mainte: try them, see what you like
[09:51] <wheatthin> kongthap, that's what's it's doing sir when you drag and drop it to the side.. nautilus is opened and wham you click on the shorcut
[09:51] <gregoryfenton> I have tried gb, fr, de and none, all give the same result
[09:51] <wheatthin> if you want it on the desktop.. you can right click and create a link
[09:52] <wheatthin> right click on the desktop
[09:52] <kongthap> wheatthin: i honestly can drag but cannot drop the "folder", so is result i cannot create shortcut :(
[09:52] <mainte> vusie, I tried them both, and both were ok. but I'd like to use functions like encryption and signing messages. in that respect, I'd like to know which one would have more secure options
[09:52] <ActionParsnip> kongthap: ln -s /mnt/storage1 ~/Desktop/Storage
[09:52] <Ceninant> I like thunderbird...
[09:52] <ActionParsnip> kongthap: nice and easy
[09:53] <kongthap> ActionParsnip: that's symlink right?
[09:53] <wheatthin> rgr
[09:53] <vusie> mainte: oops i dont go that deep i just use in a standard way.
[09:53] <ActionParsnip> kongthap: exactly, when you click on the link you will see the data. You can also save data into the link and it will save in /mnt/storage as well
[09:53] <ActionParsnip> kongthap: lots of flexibility
[09:54] <wheatthin> same thing as a shortcut no? :P
[09:54] <gregoryfenton> wheatthin I have tried gb, fr, de and none, all give the same result
[09:54] <kongthap> it's done thanks ActionParsnip and wheatthin  :)
[09:55] <mainte> could anyone maybe give me some hints on configuring clawsmail? I did that a long time ago that I dont remember, and now I can't make it work.
[09:55] <wheatthin> gregoryfenton, is this particular package  from the ubuntu repository?
[09:55] <mainte> should I use SSL or STARTTLS, for example?
[09:56] <fishcooker> i've cronjob like this 55      5       3       10      *       /etc/init.d/clearlog
[09:56] <fishcooker> it should execute  at 5:55 3 Oct.. why the cron dont do that job?
[09:56] <wheatthin> !repository
[09:56] <kongthap> how different between symbolic and hard links??? :P
[09:56] <wheatthin> you can use many symlinks
[09:56] <reisio> most mere mortals don't need hard links
[09:56] <gregoryfenton> wheatthin this is when I do apt-get update, and I was trying to install jed
[09:57] <ActionParsnip> kongthap: hard links must be on the same disk
[09:57] <ActionParsnip> kongthap: if you make a hard link to a file then delete the original, the data will still stand
[09:57] <Monotoko2> if I run rsync on a folder that's been partially copied with cp, will it just skip everything that's already been copied and do the rest?
[09:58] <wheatthin> gregoryfenton, I think it's safe-update now
[09:58] <kongthap> ActionParsnip: so hard link creates another copy?
[09:58] <wheatthin> !jed
[09:58] <wheatthin> I don't know what jed is
[09:58] <reisio> Monotoko2: should, yeah
[09:59] <Monotoko2> reisio: brilliant, thanks
[09:59] <ActionParsnip> kongthap: essentially yes
[09:59] <gregoryfenton> wheatthin the problem is that the file Packages is not present, although if I open the location in a browser I can see Packages.bz2 and Packages.gz. I am on 13.04
[10:00] <ActionParsnip> kongthap: as long as there is a hard link to the data, it will stand, if all links go the data is 'gine', symlinks excluded
[10:00] <kongthap> ActionParsnip: if i created a hard link to a folder which contains a tons of files, those files get dupplicated copy for each?
[10:01] <ActionParsnip> kongthap: in effect, but the data is only on the drive once
[10:01] <wheatthin> gregoryfenton, I'm aware you're on 13.04.. 404 is the package isn't present.. and again, is this from the main repo? or is it an alternative package?
[10:02] <kongthap> ActionParsnip: you wroted, ... if all links (hard links) go (means delete)
[10:02] <kongthap> ActionParsnip: ???
[10:02] <ActionParsnip> kongthap: make a folder and make some files in it, make a hard link to it and then delete the first folder, then open the hard link you made
[10:02] <ActionParsnip> kongthap: yes if there are hard links o some data then the data is still accessible by the OS in the usual way
[10:03] <kongthap> ActionParsnip: ok so the data in the hard link still remains until i delete the hard link itself...
[10:04] <wheatthin> gregoryfenton, if it's not maintained by ubuntu, then you'll have to file an 404 error to the maintainer
[10:05] <ActionParsnip> kongthap: yes, once the last link goes, its gone. technically the folders you make are the same
[10:05] <wheatthin> ubottu doesn't know what jed is, so I dunno
[10:05] <ActionParsnip> kongthap: try with some dummy data, its fun
[10:06] <kongthap> ActionParsnip: sure i will
[10:07] <biunx> hello, could anyone help me with configuring clawsmail, please? I can't make it work
[10:07] <kongthap> i just timed my booting time, it takes 1:15 mins, i think it's too long time
[10:07] <tarelerulz> Any one know how to turn off  bad word block in chrome ?
[10:08] <wheatthin> tarelerulz, can loog in chrome://flags
[10:08] <wheatthin> look*
[10:08] <kongthap> i'm using amd a6 (64 bits) 8 gb of ram why booting time too long?
[10:08] <wheatthin> what's your timeout?
[10:09] <wheatthin> on grub
[10:10] <reisio> kongthap: 64-bit doesn't mean ultra fast necessarily
[10:10] <DeepBlue> how 2 no a cpu is 32 or 64-bit?
[10:10] <reisio> DeepBlue: grep ' lm' /proc/cpuinfo is usually definitive
[10:10] <ActionParsnip> DeepBlue: cat /proc/cpuinfo
[10:10] <gregoryfenton> wheatthin sorry for the delay, here is the complete output from apt-get update: http://pastebin.com/pKusRCuK
[10:11] <kongthap> reisio: i realized that, just giving info about my system it's still quite modern :)
[10:11] <reisio> kongthap: :)
[10:11] <ActionParsnip> kongthap: you can run:   dmesg | less      look for large gaps in the left colomn (which is in seconds)
[10:11] <kongthap> reisio: do you think it's too long time to boot???
[10:12] <reisio> kongthap: I think boot time is a measure of something that needn't be measured
[10:13] <DeepBlue> reisio ,ActionParsnip : here  ,  http://dpaste.com/1404504/
[10:13] <kongthap> ActionParsnip: [    0.000000] initial memory mapped: [mem 0x00000000-0x1fffffff] i just have to look through these lines right? i must focus inside [xxxx] right?
[10:13] <wheatthin> gregoryfenton, I'm not sure but I think there's a spelling error in your sources.lst
[10:14] <llutz> DeepBlue: if reisios command gives some output at all, its 64bit cpu
[10:14] <ActionParsnip> kongthap: that is at 0 seconds, so not useful
[10:14] <ActionParsnip> kongthap: scroll down and read the seconds, when you get a large gap, that is the issue
[10:14] <wheatthin> ActionParsnip, what do you say about gregoryfenton's problem? http://pastebin.com/pKusRCuK
[10:14] <biunx> all right, just managed to make it work. I think it was the username which had to be full email address
[10:15] <kongthap> ActionParsnip: i meant i don't know what to look for at the first :P
[10:15] <wheatthin> ip is up and working, but I'm thinking the url is using a space instead of a slash
[10:15] <kongthap> ActionParsnip: [    0.002764] Inode-cache hash table entries: 524288 (order: 10, 4194304 bytes) just look for line link this right?
[10:15] <ActionParsnip> kongthap: the leftmost number is the time in seconds
[10:15] <gregoryfenton> wheatthin this is new install, apart from trying different servers I haven't touched sources.lst. I will upload it momentarilt.
[10:15] <DeepBlue> llutz:  check this, http://dpaste.com/1404504/
[10:15] <ActionParsnip> kongthap: dont worry about the actual text, just lok at the leftmost value
[10:16] <llutz> DeepBlue:why should i? if reisios command gives some output at all, its 64bit cpu
[10:16] <reisio> DeepBlue: grep produces output when it finds the string it's searching for
[10:16] <reisio> DeepBlue: you've searched for ' lm' and gotten output, so it found it
[10:16] <reisio> DeepBlue: this means you have a 64-bit proc
[10:16] <kongthap> ActionParsnip: OK just what inside [***] ???
[10:16] <llutz> DeepBlue: 32bit cpu do not have "lm" flags
[10:16] <reisio> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Long_mode
[10:17] <kongthap> ActionParsnip: one more thing this file has no timestamp how do i know where is the end of the most recently booting log???
[10:17] <DeepBlue> ok, thanx  llutz,reisio
[10:17] <ActionParsnip> kongthap: the file is made from the nanosecond the kernel started, to right now
[10:17] <ActionParsnip> kongthap: and yes, what is inside the brackets
[10:18] <alexw> Can anyone help http://paste.laravel.com/WaO ?
[10:19] <ActionParsnip> alexw: who is the owner of /srv/www/app/staging/releases/20131003201246/phpunit.xml ?
[10:19] <alexw> -rwxr-sr-x 1 rocketeer www-data
[10:20] <wheatthin> greg source.lst is wrong
[10:20] <kongthap> ActionParsnip: this take 11 secs: [   11.140461] EXT4-fs (sda5): mounted filesystem with ordered data mode. Opts: (null)
[10:21] <tilerendering> hi anybody running vnc server under ubuntu 12.04 here ?
[10:21] <ActionParsnip> kongthap: then run an fsck on sda5 in livecd
[10:21] <tilerendering> I can connect to the vnc server, but it doesnt show me any applications or menu
[10:21] <tilerendering> just an empty screen
[10:21] <tilerendering> (ubuntu 12.04 lts)
[10:21] <tilerendering> and yes, I installed gnome-core
[10:22] <ActionParsnip> tilerendering: what is the purpose of the VNC session?
[10:22] <wheatthin> gregoryfenton, If you look at your pastebin and then look at the link
[10:22] <tilerendering> maybe I should include some special entries in the startup apps ?
[10:22] <kongthap> ActionParsnip: i think i misunderstood, actually [timeing] is the sum timing from the previous line, is that right?
[10:22] <ActionParsnip> tilerendering: there may be a sleeker solution than VNC
[10:22] <ActionParsnip> kongthap: yes, its the time the event happened, in seconds, since the kernel started
[10:23] <gregoryfenton> wheatthin http://pastebin.com/8ictdMHM
[10:23] <tilerendering> ActionParsnip: long-term: run a vmware vm in it (windows7). but now, for short-term: i d just like a graphical environment in wich i can start a terminal, and launch a file manager and basically have basic ubuntu admin tasks/apps at my disposal
[10:23] <Jack_Giant> big question: http://pastebin.com/VkEvYaaR
[10:23] <tilerendering> I d like to use vnc because it has been recommended to me by vmware
[10:23] <tilerendering> so - what do I do in order to see some regular apps/menus in my vnc session ?
[10:24] <kongthap> ActionParsnip: actually i can deal with 1:15 of booting, but i just feel disappoint that win7 boots faster on this hardware :(
[10:24] <ActionParsnip> kongthap: ho many times do you boot?
[10:24] <kongthap> ActionParsnip: *i can accept
[10:24] <reisio> what makes you think it boots faster?
[10:24] <ActionParsnip> tilerendering: so you want to manage a vmware server? Is that it?
[10:25] <tilerendering> ActionParsnip: yes, but I want to use a ubuntu gui prior to that
[10:25] <tilerendering> so can you give me help with my problem ?
[10:25] <tilerendering> or do you want to recommend me something I dont want ;)
[10:25] <k1l> kongthap: be aware, that windows does some kind of hibernation and not a real shutdown
[10:25] <ActionParsnip> tilerendering: why not install the VIC on a system and connect to the remote system to manage it?? Why are you using VNC when there is a much sleeker (and more secure) method?
[10:25] <kongthap> ActionParsnip: in usual situation it always takes about this long... but i never time it on purpose until today
[10:26] <ActionParsnip> tilerendering: are you crazy?
[10:26] <ActionParsnip> kongthap: i'd run an fsck overnight on the sda5 partition
[10:27] <sorin2189> Hello everyone! I tried installing 13.04 yesterday and I've run into a huge problem:  Right after install, I enabled fglrx restricted driver from the 'Restricted Drivers' tab in 'Software and Updates'.  It asked me to reboot for the new driver to be loaded, and i did so. Problem is my system did not boot again.  I said ok, i'll try the fglrx-updates driver, so i reinstalled ubuntu 13.04 and tried with that one. Needless to say, i 
[10:27] <kongthap> ActionParsnip: i saw i youtube clip, a guy boots his notebook (not so new model) with ubuntu, it's super fast so I'm just jealous him
[10:27] <sorin2189> Anyone has any idea what the hell is happening ?
[10:27] <reisio> sorin2189: msg cut off
[10:27] <kongthap> i will try to manually run fsck
[10:27] <reisio> sorin2189: reinstalling over a driver change is kind of a waste of time :)
[10:27] <ActionParsnip> scyrmion: which ATI GPU do you use?
[10:28] <wheatthin> gregoryfenton, sorry man.. I don't think that section is supported
[10:28] <sorin2189> reisio: i know it's a waste of time, but i always think fresh install is better
[10:28] <gregoryfenton> wheatthin thanks, I will figure this out. Much appreciated :)
[10:28] <wheatthin> it says in that paste that although it may contain some newer versions with different features, it's not maintained too well
[10:28] <sorin2189> anyway, this doesn't solve my problem. I'm really disappointed that a simple driver install screws up the system
[10:28] <reisio> sorin2189: it isn't :)
[10:29] <wheatthin> gregoryfenton, why did you enable that section anyways?
[10:29] <sorin2189> fresh install being better or not is not really the problem at hand
[10:29] <reisio> fresh installs are "good" in Windows land, because there's no way of telling what goes on when Windows installs, it's all closed
[10:29] <reisio> GNU/Linux distros are entirely open, so you don't have that problem
[10:29] <reisio> just saying
[10:29] <sorin2189> ok, got it. how about some thoughts about my real problem? :(
[10:30] <reisio> sorin2189: what's the problem now?
[10:30] <sorin2189> can't boot ubuntu 13.04 with fglrx drivers enabled
[10:30] <gregoryfenton> wheatthin I haven't enabled anything, this is a VM that was created yesterday and worked fine then. Today 404 galore.
[10:30] <reisio> sorin2189: can you boot in the 'safe mode'?
[10:30] <sorin2189> nope. X refuses to start up
[10:31] <sorin2189> actually not X. it doesn't even boot to shell with networking
[10:31] <sorin2189> kernel fails to load (maybe can't load fglrx properly?)
[10:31] <wheatthin> gregoryfenton, it's cause the links changed
[10:31] <kongthap> ActionParsnip: when is the best time and how often to run fsck???
[10:31] <reisio> mmm, doesn't really follow
[10:31] <reisio> more likely the graphics system is failing alone
[10:31] <ActionParsnip> kongthap: just when you get issues
[10:32] <ActionParsnip> kongthap: best time was for minimal impact, so schedule a maintenence window
[10:32] <kongthap> ActionParsnip: when using fsck it scans the entire disk or i have to specify the partition?
[10:32] <reisio> the entire file system
[10:32] <reisio> file system, fs
[10:32] <reisio> fsck
[10:32] <wheatthin> lmao~!
[10:32] <ActionParsnip> kongthap: you specify the partition to check
[10:33] <wheatthin> gregoryfenton, go to the site.. it's a link that's linked to itself
[10:33] <reisio> where filesystem is one of what /sbin/blkid spits out
[10:33] <kongthap> reisio: entire file system means not entire partition right?
[10:33] <ihre> sorin2189: CTRL+ALT+F1, login, sudo cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | grep EE
[10:33] <wheatthin> repo is sync'd wrong
[10:33] <sorin2189> ihre: i'm not even able to go to tty1
[10:33] <reisio> kongthap: it can mean an entire partition, insofar as a file system can take up an entire partition :)
[10:33] <llutz> poor little cat
[10:33] <kongthap> ActionParsnip: what did you meant by schedule it, what app can i use to schedule the task???
[10:34] <ActionParsnip> kongthap: no, schedule as in, with the users of the system
[10:34] <kongthap> reisio: i got it :)
[10:34] <ActionParsnip> kongthap: if its your own PC then run it overnight
[10:34] <wheatthin> is this a looping link? http://de.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/
[10:35] <kongthap> ActionParsnip: to use fsck i must boot the system with live cd right?
[10:36] <k1l> wheatthin: that is a german repo server, what is wrong with it?
[10:36] <ActionParsnip> kongthap: it just means the partition will not be mounted or in use
[10:36] <babinlonston> Any One Know About Leave Tracking Open Source Software ? If there is 20 Employees , and if some one took leave we need to entire the entry and at last of month i need to track his records
[10:36] <reisio> babinlonston: that's quite hard to parse
[10:36] <ihre> sorin2189: bummer, i'd fetch a live cd/usb if I were you. Mount your root partition on /mnt and chroot into it. Then check your logs
[10:37] <babinlonston> reisio: why ?
[10:37] <kongthap> i've installed python3, if i wanted to update the latest version i just repeat "apt-get install python3" right?
[10:37] <reisio> babinlonston: good question
[10:37] <sorin2189> ihre: thank you ... how's this possible though? I just fresh installed, enabled fglrx and that's it. broken
[10:38] <k1l> kongthap: no
[10:38] <ActionParsnip> kongthap: yesm that will update that package from the available sources
[10:38] <sorin2189> i've read that ubuntu is being adopted in france for police ... how do they cope with this kind of "stability" lol
[10:38] <ActionParsnip> scyrmion: which ATI gpu do you use?
[10:38] <kongthap> k1l: what is your suggestion? :)
[10:38] <ActionParsnip> scyrmion: I did ask earlier
[10:38] <Na3iL> hey all ^
[10:39] <k1l> kongthap: it will install the latest version in the ubuntu repos. not the latest version that is out there.
[10:39] <k1l> kongthap: and you should run updates systemwide not only for one package for systemwide security updates
[10:39] <k1l> !update | kongthap
[10:39] <reisio> sorin2189: they have someone other than you install it for them :)
[10:40] <reisio> Na3iL: hi
[10:40] <Na3iL> hey reisio :)
[10:40] <reisio> they probably also use particular hardware
[10:40] <k1l> kongthap: gnah, sorry, wrong factoid. use "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade" to update (or the GUI updater)
[10:40] <sorin2189> reisio: it's not rocket science to click next next next until installer finishes. neither to go to software and updates -> restricted drivers -> click fglrx -> enable -> reboot
[10:40] <ActionParsnip> scyrmion: we cant help if you dont give basic details
[10:40] <kongthap> k1l: what command is for system wide update??? for now i only wait for the auto update because i don't know what else to do
[10:40] <wheatthin> k1l, well I'm trying to figure out what's wrong with gregoryfenton's 404 problem when installing a package
[10:40] <sorin2189> reisio: how can one screw up at the above install process
[10:41] <wheatthin> I'm thinking it's this source.lst but I'm uncertain  http://pastebin.com/8ictdMHM
[10:41] <ActionParsnip> scyrmion: which ATI gpu do you use?
[10:41] <reisio> sorin2189: did you get those EE's?
[10:41] <k1l> sorin2189: do you have a real support issue or are you just here for flaming? please keep this channel clear for support issues
[10:41] <gregoryfenton> \o s
[10:41] <gregoryfenton> ]
[10:41] <ActionParsnip> scyrmion: or does the system have a make/model?
[10:41] <gregoryfenton> :is still here
[10:41] <tilerendering> can anyone tell me how to make appear some basic ubuntu gui in my vnc server instance ? or what this depends on ? where to look ?
[10:41] <otak> sorin2189: contact your hardware provider this is a help channel
[10:42] <reisio> tilerendering: what appears now?
[10:42] <ActionParsnip> tilerendering: press CTRL+ALT+T and run:   gnome-panel
[10:42] <ActionParsnip> tilerendering: I would still stand by that you are oing this THE worst way concievable
[10:42] <tilerendering> reisio: nothing. just an empty GUi. no menu, no "applications" item, nothing.
[10:42] <sorin2189> well i'm trying to get help. apparently nobody knows why a simple driver activation fails.
[10:43] <tilerendering> just an empty 1024x768 screen
[10:43] <reisio> tilerendering: and if you right-click?
[10:43] <tilerendering> reisio: nothing happens
[10:43] <tilerendering> it´s a 12.04 lts server ubuntu
[10:43] <reisio> tilerendering: doesn't sound quite properly configured :p
[10:43] <tilerendering> I already installed gnome-core
[10:43] <tilerendering> do I need something else ? or maybe edit some config files ?
[10:43] <k1l> gregoryfenton: can you show a "sudo apt-get update" in a pastebin?
[10:43] <ActionParsnip> tilerendering: can you launch a terminal?
[10:43] <wheatthin> reisio, sounds like unity needs resetting :)
[10:43] <tilerendering> ActionParsnip: nope. I cant do anything
[10:44] <tilerendering> except move the mouse cursor ;)
[10:44] <vik_> join #sympy
[10:44] <ActionParsnip> tilerendering: so CTRL+ALT+T doesnt launch a terminal?
[10:44] <k1l> gregoryfenton: this is a vm? does it connect to other stuff, like "ping heise.de"?
[10:44] <reisio> does the default Ubuntu VNC server disable graphics accel automatically now? or is that still required?
[10:44] <Dr_Willis> tilerendering:  so you have only installed 'gnome-core' ?
[10:44] <tilerendering> reisio: no idea about that
[10:44] <wheatthin> it's still required last time I checked
[10:44] <ActionParsnip> reisio: I believe so
[10:44] <tilerendering> Dr_Willis: yes
[10:44] <reisio> coo
[10:45] <Dr_Willis> tilerendering:  im not sure that would install  all the stuff needed for the gnome-desktop.  theres minimal window managers like 'jwm' you may want to install as a fall back window manager untill youi get the desktop working right
[10:45] <tilerendering> Dr_Willis: hm
[10:46] <tilerendering> Dr_Willis: any idea on how to do that ?
[10:46] <gregoryfenton> k1l, it is a VM, 64 bytes from redirector.heise.de (193.99.144.80): icmp_req=1 ttl=249 time=9.27 ms. apt-get upd
[10:46] <tilerendering> I m not a Ubuntu pro, I just want to get a basic GUI environment working with some minimal administrative features
[10:46] <Dr_Willis> tilerendering:  its easier to make a server out of a desktop install, then a desktop out of a server install. ;) but  what desktop do you want? 'sudo apt-get install jwm' will install a very tiny window manager
[10:46] <tilerendering> and a web brwoser would be fine too ;)
[10:46] <tilerendering> Dr_Willis: sure, but this is not an option now
[10:46] <gregoryfenton> sorry, apt-get update @ http://pastebin.com/pKusRCuK
[10:46] <Dr_Willis> tilerendering:  jwm is about as basic as it gets
[10:46] <Jack_Giant> http://pastebin.com/VkEvYaaR  I really need help
[10:47] <tilerendering> Dr_Willis: yeah but I need some howto - or else I ll run into more problems
[10:47] <freshfish> hi all!
[10:47] <tilerendering> what´s the default window manager installed with 12.04 LTS ?
[10:47] <Dr_Willis> tilerendering:  a how to for what? 'sudo apt-get install jwm'  then se3lect jwm as the windiow mangfer at the login screen
[10:47] <freshfish> got a weird one.
[10:47] <Dr_Willis> tilerendering:  that would be Unity - its the default
[10:47] <wolfheart_> Hi , when i try and use my stk1160 video capture device with guvcview i get this error :- " http://paste.ubuntu.com/6187636/ " anyone know how to solve this please ?
[10:47] <auronandace> tilerendering: compiz
[10:47] <k1l> gregoryfenton: can you show your actual " cat /etc/apt/sources.list" ?
[10:48] <freshfish> audio based.
[10:48] <Dr_Willis> tilerendering:  'sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop' would pull in all the needed packages.   Unity is a plugin for compiz
[10:48] <wheatthin> http://pastebin.com/8ictdMHM
[10:48] <wheatthin> k1l
[10:48] <ActionParsnip> tilerendering: again, does CTRL+ALT+T give a terminal?
[10:48] <ActionParsnip> tilerendering: compiz is defalt installed
[10:48] <tilerendering> ActionParsnip: nope
[10:49] <ActionParsnip> tilerendering: try changing your user session to lxde and use that
[10:49] <tilerendering> I just get an empty display not reacting to anything
[10:49] <sam113101> unity is still a plugin for compiz as of 13.04, right?
[10:49] <k1l> wheatthin: no de.… server in there. so there might be some changes
[10:49] <tilerendering> ActionParsnip: how do I do that
[10:49] <Dr_Willis> sam113101:  yes
[10:49] <ActionParsnip> tilerendering: why do you not use the VIC and connect using that to the VMWare service?
[10:49] <sam113101> what about 13.10?
[10:49] <Dr_Willis> sam113101:  yes
[10:49] <ActionParsnip> tilerendering: whynot do it the proper way
[10:49] <sam113101> will 13.10 be using mir?
[10:49] <tilerendering> ActionParsnip: because the vmware people told me to use vnc. I try to stay on trails on which I can progress rather than run into new problems
[10:49] <Dr_Willis> sam113101:  according to webupd8 blog site i saw today. its not going to be the default.
[10:49] <freshfish> 13.04, vid card with hmdi vid/audio, mobo with spdif.  I use the spidf for my audio out....a few updates ago (3 months?)  my audio would make this "zrrpp" sound and no output.
[10:50] <freshfish> I installed pulse audio control...
[10:50] <sam113101> aaaww
[10:50] <wheatthin> k1l, he changed it multiple times from de to fr and german
[10:50] <k1l> sam113101: no. there is no unity for mir (for the desktop) so far. target is something after 14.04
[10:51] <sam113101> will it still be a compiz plugin though? lol
[10:51] <freshfish> foudn out I had to change the output from 5.1 digital w/o analod input to off, then back to the same setting and it would zrrp again and PCM fires up on the receiver.
[10:51] <username1234> In LxTask process memory usage is shown in 2 columns. RSS and VM-Size. The numbers in these columns are different and I can't find any explanation as to what RSS and VM-Size actually mean in this context.
[10:51] <Dr_Willis> sam113101:  theres a move to using qt, but who can tell.
[10:51] <k1l> sam113101: unity gets rewritten for mit without compiz
[10:51] <k1l> *mit=mir
[10:51] <freshfish> but this is for vids, music players,
[10:51] <kostkon> sam113101, 13.10 has unity 7 so yes, unity 8 is the qt based one
[10:51] <wheatthin> k1l, and now it's not working when it was just a couple days ago
[10:51] <freshfish> every audio.
[10:51] <freshfish> ideas?
[10:51] <sam113101> ok
[10:52] <k1l> wheatthin: i think mybe the / at the end is a problem.   or the traffic through the vm host
[10:52] <office_> Hi All  i am new to ubuntu how is everyone
[10:52] <ActionParsnip> tilerendering: why? There is zero security in VNC. Makes no sense at all
[10:52] <sam113101> if unity 8 will be using qt, does it mean we'll also see more qt apps on ubuntu? (it's mainly gtk now)
[10:53] <ActionParsnip> sam113101: how is it mainly gtk?
[10:53] <ActionParsnip> sam113101: all the apps in kubuntu use qt, insted of gtk
[10:53] <wheatthin> tilerendering, if using vnc restrict it to local lan only, and ssh tunnel to it
[10:53] <ActionParsnip> sam113101: where did you hear that it's "mainly gtk"?
[10:53] <sam113101> talking about ubuntu, not kubuntu
[10:54] <ActionParsnip> tilerendering: http://askubuntu.com/questions/160160/unity-launcher-doesnt-appear-in-vnc-session
[10:54] <gregoryfenton> k1l, http://pastebin.com/Vz52e9Di is my /etc/apt/sources.lst and http://pastebin.com/R0zhxm43 is the output from apt-get update. I have just created and uploaded them.
[10:54] <username1234> In LxTask process memory usage is shown in 2 columns. RSS and VM-Size. The numbers in these columns are different and I can't find any explanation as to what RSS and VM-Size actually mean in this context. What do RSS and VM-Size mean in the context of running process lists?
[10:56] <wolfheart_> Hi , when i try and use my stk1160 video capture device with guvcview i get this error :- " http://paste.ubuntu.com/6187636/ " anyone know how to solve this please ?
[10:57] <wheatthin> wolfheart_, try using a lower resolution for cam settings
[10:59] <wheatthin> wolfheart_, or try using 24bpp
[11:00] <diverdude> How do i install QT on ubuntu?
[11:00] <wheatthin> diverdude, sudo apt-cache search QT
[11:00] <Galvatron> Hi
[11:00] <wheatthin> you'll then search for the package you want
[11:01] <diverdude> wheatthin, that gives me all sorts of irrellevant stuff
[11:02] <tilerendering> got it working
[11:02] <tilerendering> thanks everyone
[11:02] <wolfheart_> wheatthin :- ok thank you brb
[11:02] <valeria> ciao dodi
[11:02] <k1l> gregoryfenton: put this in your sources.list. its a clean repo list wiht the original ubuntu servers: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6187682/
[11:02] <gregoryfenton> will do k1l
[11:03] <wheatthin> diverdude, no, it gives you a list of QT.. dev, look for qt toolkit or something
[11:03] <Galvatron> Since yesterday I have a problem with my Ubuntu 12.04.3( the 13.04 HWE stack) occasionally freezing and the screen going blank soon after the OS fully loads. My GPU is a 7300GT + ForceWare 304.88. Here is my kern.log after the last crash: http://pastebin.com/e0LSV1hM
[11:04] <wheatthin> Galvatron, what graphics drivers are you using?
[11:04] <diverdude> wheatthin, is it sudo apt-get install qt--sdk ?
[11:04] <wheatthin> Galvatron, you might also wanna disable your screensaver
[11:04] <diverdude> qt-sdk ?
[11:04] <Galvatron> wheatthin: The 304.88 legacy blob
[11:05] <Galvatron> I don't use a screensaver
[11:05] <wheatthin> Galvatron, is that from the ubuntu repo?
[11:06] <Galvatron> Yes
[11:06] <gregoryfenton> k1l, even with that file, still 404s
[11:06] <Galvatron> I have "proposed" and "backports" disabled
[11:06] <wolfheart_> wheatthin , i have tried a lower resolution of 176 x 144 and now i get this error :- " http://paste.ubuntu.com/6187687/ "
[11:06] <k1l> gregoryfenton: than there is a problem with your VM host
[11:07] <alexw> how would I allow a user in (sudoers) to run "service php5-fpm reload"
[11:07] <k1l> Galvatron: forceware is not a ubuntu package, is it?
[11:07] <alexw> is it /usr/sbin/service?
[11:07] <gregoryfenton> I just can't understand why the Packages files are not showing in the repositories
[11:07] <wheatthin> why so low tho? I'm sure there's a 320 or something like that wolfheart_ .. but I was meaning bpp ..
[11:08] <Galvatron> k1l I mean the NV propriettar driver. "ForceWare" is what Nvidia calls it.;)
[11:08] <stingsay`> ubuntu server 12.04.3 .i have php scrip . am want to run it every 5 munite as root/sudo . can you guide me how it work ?
[11:08] <wheatthin> try using 24bpp it's the equivalent to 32bit
[11:09] <k1l> Galvatron: are you sure the 7300 is still supported with the 304 driver? nvidia drops old cards from time to time
[11:10] <Galvatron> The 304.xx line is the last one supporting GF6 and 7
[11:10] <wolfheart_> wheatthin oh ok , do you know how i can set bpp for guvcview in a terminal please ?
[11:10] <gregoryfenton> stingray: sudo crontab -e  in that file at the bottom add */5 * * * * /path/to/php -f /path/to/script.php   and add a blank line at the bottom of the file
[11:11] <wheatthin> wolfheart_, not right off hand..   man guvcview
[11:11] <wheatthin> or whatever it is
[11:11] <stingsay`> ubuntu server 12.04.3 .i have php scrip . am want to run it every 5 munite as root/sudo . can you guide me how it work ?
[11:11] <username1234> In LxTask process memory usage is shown in 2 columns. RSS and VM-Size. The numbers in these columns are different and I can't find any explanation as to what RSS and VM-Size actually mean in this context. What do RSS and VM-Size mean in the context of running process lists?
[11:12] <wheatthin> stingsay`, you can use crontab
[11:12] <gregoryfenton> stingsay`,  sudo crontab -e  in that file at the bottom add */5 * * * * /path/to/php -f /path/to/script.php   and add a blank line at the bottom of the file
[11:13] <gregoryfenton> sorry for previous misspelling of name
[11:13] <jokoon> 1lzma
[11:13] <jokoon> !lzma
[11:13] <jokoon> !7z
[11:15] <christiankabeya-> salut,
[11:16] <dontkillthebunni> Hello everyone!
[11:16] <christiankabeya-> hello
[11:19] <BReonL> new
[11:21] <gregoryfenton> Fixed it. Gotta look into why it is happening, but changing every occurrence of http:// to ftp:// in sources.lst fixed the issue. #mightystrange.
[11:21] <vusie> hi guys can anyone help me configure the terminal plugin in gedit so that it uses a black font rather than white cos m on a white bg and cant see a thing
[11:23] <SupaSol> Hi here
[11:24] <wolfheart_> wheatthin :- even with bpp set as 16 i get this error " http://paste.ubuntu.com/6187741/ "
[11:24] <wheatthin> it was already using 16bpp
[11:26] <vijaya> configure: error: scrnsaver.h is missing.  Please install package libxss-dev or equivalent
[11:26] <vijaya> I am facing this problem
[11:26] <vijaya> what shall Id o
[11:27] <vijaya> I am configuring ostbox-0.3.7 for arm, at that time I was getting this error... how can I resolve this error
[11:27] <bazhang> vijaya, install that package yet?
[11:27] <Dr_Willis> install the package it says?
[11:27] <_graham_> Install libxss-dev?
[11:27] <Dr_Willis> !info ostbox
[11:27] <bazhang> !info libxss-dev
[11:27] <Dr_Willis> !find ostbox
[11:27] <bazhang> vijaya, ^
[11:28] <vusie> guys help me
[11:28] <vijaya> I installed that eventhough it is showing like that
[11:28] <Dr_Willis> vusie:  it may be it uses the default gnome-terminal settings/sessions
[11:29] <Dr_Willis> !find scrnsaver.h
[11:29] <vijaya> what is meant by that
[11:30] <vijaya> File means
[11:30] <Dr_Willis> sounds like the code  you are compiling has some issues.. its not finding  the includes on your syste,
[11:30] <Dr_Willis> id have to suggest checking out the ostbox homepage, forums, or channel
[11:31] <wolfheart_> wheatthin :- never mind got it working in vlc :o)
[11:31] <vijaya> It is opensource nly I solved some issues regarding that code..
[11:31] <Dr_Willis> opensourced apps can have forums, and homepages, and irc channels...
[11:31] <vijaya> I didn't get rly from that forum, so I finally approched here
[11:35] <Jack_Giant> Is there anyone that can help me with this: http://pastebin.com/VkEvYaaR
[11:37] <gordonjcp> Jack_Giant: what's the problem?
[11:37] <Jack_Giant> setting up the server with the software
[11:37] <Jack_Giant> I have 5 different tuts and non of them work
[11:37] <gordonjcp> Jack_Giant: setting up what server with what software?
[11:38] <Jack_Giant> yh
[11:39] <CatKiller> Jack_Giant: Sounds like you're asking somebody to basically setup a server for you?
[11:39] <Jack_Giant> no
[11:39] <CatKiller> with services etc
[11:39] <CatKiller> I didn't see any question in there
[11:39] <gordonjcp> Jack_Giant: what are you trying to set up
[11:39] <gordonjcp> ?
[11:40] <joachimhs> I have a couple of servers that I want to install Ubuntu and virtualization on. I also want to manage each of the physical machines through MAAS. What is the preferred virtualization method for Ubuntu? I won't require different OSes for the VMs
[11:41] <Jack_Giant> -   /usr/bin/mkpasswd doesn't work
[11:42] <Jack_Giant> any ideas?
[11:42] <bekks> Jack_Giant: Use "passwd".
[11:42] <CatKiller> Jack_Giant: "doesn't work" is not really much to work with
[11:42] <gordonjcp> Jack_Giant: why are you trying to use "mkpasswd" and what exactly are you trying to do?
[11:42] <CatKiller> Jack_Giant: Imagine you call the garage: "My car doesn't work, any idea?"
[11:43] <lili19> cant set keyboard, first row of letters is azertyuiop but comes out as azerty456-
[11:43] <CatKiller> lili19: You probably have the "fn" key locked
[11:43] <Jack_Giant> follow this tut: http://www.codeography.com/2012/09/23/howto-irc-server.html   (I'm sorry, I'm very tired at the moment be at it for 5 hours
[11:43] <CatKiller> or the "num lck" enabled
[11:43] <joachimhs> Is KVM the preferred way… Or is Docker a viable option?
[11:43] <bekks> Jack_Giant: For doing what?
[11:43] <CatKiller> lili19: On some laptopts, there are blue digits on part of the keyboard to use it as a numerical pad
[11:44] <bekks> Jack_Giant: wrong tab, sorry.
[11:44] <Jack_Giant> set up a IRC with SSL
[11:44] <lili19> no
[11:44] <bekks> joachimhs: for doing what?
[11:44] <gordonjcp> lili19: using a laptop? Using numlock?
[11:44] <ikonia> Jack_Giant: do you really feel random guides off the internet is wise ?
[11:44] <ikonia> www.umbrellix.tk
[11:44] <ikonia> ops
[11:44] <ikonia> sorry, pastefail
[11:44] <joachimhs> bekks: I want to set up a few physical machines with MAAS. On each physical machine, I want to set up VMs
[11:44] <lili19> yes i see
[11:45] <lili19> how to unlock
[11:45] <Jack_Giant> What is wise then?
[11:45] <bekks> joachimhs: Then use a virtualization solution like vbox, kvm, xen. In that order.
[11:45] <CatKiller> lili19: Try pressing the "num lk" key
[11:45] <ikonia> Jack_Giant: reading about the specific IRC daemon you plan to use, and using it's documentation to set it up correctly
[11:45] <joachimhs> bekks: Is vbox a viable option for production use?
[11:46] <bekks> joachimhs: Sure.
[11:46] <lili19> no it doesnt unlok
[11:46] <ruble> How can I save the program flow of a command in terminal?
[11:47] <ruble> *shell
[11:47] <lili19> but if i keep fn pressed it works
[11:47] <joachimhs> bekks: Hm.. I thought vbox was optimized for running VMs on a desktop… :)
[11:47] <gillzon> a have a folder with som files and i want to set up a local CSV how do i start? anybody know a good guide ?
[11:47] <lili19> i just have to keep it pressed  annoying though
[11:47] <CatKiller> lili19: So the unlock key isn't mapped it seems
[11:48] <Danielc1234> Hi all, I have a user named guest on our server. Is there a way to restrict them to a certain folder and yet let them be able to read/write the files?
[11:48] <bekks> gillzon: It is calles cvs, not csv. and you'd better use subversion nowadays.
[11:48] <CatKiller> lili19: Did you locate the numlock key ?
[11:48] <lili19> yes
[11:48] <CatKiller> lili19: What does it say on it?
[11:48] <ikonia> Danielc1234: chroot ?
[11:48] <CatKiller> (with the description of the colors)
[11:49] <lili19> oh wait i did a stupid mistake. i pressed numlock without pressing fn. now i did the two and it works. thank you
[11:49] <CatKiller> that's what I was going to suggest ;)
[11:49] <CatKiller> cool
[11:49] <lili19> thanks a lot
[11:49] <gordonjcp> Jack_Giant: https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/serverguide/irc-server.html
[11:49] <gordonjcp> Jack_Giant: there's the official guide, follow that
[11:50] <bezaban> Danielc1234: what are you trying to accomplish? A user can per default only write to /tmp and their home directory
[11:50] <gillzon> bekks: thx i will take a look at it
[11:50] <ali112233> hi
[11:50] <bezaban> there are ways of further restricting a user, like within a chroot jail or virtual machine, but it all depends on what you are trying to do.
[11:51] <joachimhs> bekks: Thanks!
[11:51] <ruble> When I try to run this command "bin/crawl urls/seed.txt TestCrawl http://localhost:8983/solr/ 2" in shell, it works. But when I put that same command in a shell script and then run that script, I get this error: http://pastebin.com/hGs38k32
[11:51] <Jack_Giant> How would you open file system explorer as sudo
[11:51] <bezaban> any user with local access is a much bigger security risk than remote only, so for a 'public service' I would recommend facilitating that with a service
[11:51] <jrib> ruble: on ubuntu?
[11:51] <bekks> Jack_Giant: You dont. Thats a very bad habbit.
[11:52] <Danielc1234> bezaban I am obviuosly not the IT guy for our server, but we have someone that is going to be doing some custom work on one of the sites on the server. I am just trying to give that user access to our server, but restrict him to a certain folder and have the ability to read/write the files within that folder.
[11:52] <ruble> jrib: using cygwin
[11:52] <CatKiller> ruble: Sounds like this is not a Ubuntu question. Crawl is not part of the distrib
[11:52] <jrib> ruble: ok but this channel is for ubuntu support
[11:52] <daniellinux> hello how to merge all unallocated spaces?
[11:52] <bekks> daniellinux: There is no need to do so using a sane filesystem like ext4.
[11:52] <ruble> which channel do I go to? I thought it might be a shell problem
[11:53] <CatKiller> Danielc1234: If you're worried he could hack in your server and want full isolation, try linux containers (LXC)
[11:53] <bekks> ruble: ##cygwin
[11:53] <bezaban> Danielc1234: you can just add him as a normal user and add access to the files he is allowed to work on.  Any normal user is restricted to breaking stuff per default
[11:53] <ruble> ok, thanks
[11:53] <daniellinux> bekks, i have some unallocated spaces
[11:53] <bekks> daniellinux: On your harddrive, and your partitions do not consume all available space?
[11:54] <daniellinux> bekks, yes
[11:54] <bezaban> Danielc1234: this can be accomplished by making him the owner of the files or adding a group, changing the group ownership of the files and adding said account to the group
[11:54] <daniellinux> bekks, unallocated spaces are shown soffwrantly
[11:54] <bekks> daniellinux: Then you have take a full backup of your system and use gparted to resize your partitions.
[11:54] <daniellinux> bekks, *differantly
[11:55] <daniellinux> bekks, oh ok
[11:55] <bezaban> although this sounds a lot like something the it guy would want to be informed about
[11:55] <daniellinux> bekks, any other way?'
[11:55] <bekks> daniellinux: No.
[12:00] <vijaya> I am configuring ostbox-0.3.7 for arm , it is showing error like this
[12:00] <vijaya> configure: error: scrnsaver.h is missing.  Please install package libxss-dev or equivalent
[12:00] <vijaya> how can I resolve this error
[12:02] <CatKiller> vijaya: "sudo apt-get install <missing package>"
[12:02] <vijaya> I did eve it is showing lik that
[12:03] <CatKiller> ?
[12:04] <bugger> hi all - i'm having severe problems with openjdk-7, any java compilation fails with this error: bad class file: /usr/lib/jvm/java-7-openjdk-amd64/jre/lib/rt.jar(java/lang/Object.class) class file has wrong version 51.0, should be 49.0
[12:04] <bugger> i'm runnign ubuntu 13.04
[12:04] <bugger> i've uninstalled all the openjdk and icedtea packages and reinstalled them
[12:04] <bugger> still having the same issue
[12:04] <bugger> any ideas what to try?
[12:05] <CatKiller> bugger: SO answer
[12:05] <CatKiller> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/15377436/javac-version-1-7-not-able-to-build-for-target-1-7
[12:06] <andreiiar> Guise. I wanted a portable linux and chose lubuntu for a 16 gig drive. Someone said it's better to use full install it. I installed it at work and it was fine. Then I went to other job and ran it from laptop. FINE!!! This morning when I ran again from work pc my monitor said resoluition it was out of his range. That was before grub menu too. No grub menu. What is ther to do.
[12:07] <bugger> CatKiller, thanks i've been trying that one before and still no luck so far, but i just noticed one thing in there that might be the culprit
[12:08] <bekks> andreiiar: do you use portablelinux or ubuntu?
[12:08] <CatKiller> andreiiar: Using the laptop's integrated monitor, change the resolution to something your work monitor is compatible with?
[12:08] <daniellinux> can i delete my swap partition for some time? will it harm my computer?
[12:08] <andreiiar> I did full install. I don;t have my laptop with me but I have a linux box here.
[12:08] <bekks> daniellinux: yes. no.
[12:08] <CatKiller> daniellinux,
[12:09] <CatKiller> it will most likely crash
[12:09] <bekks> CatKiller: thats wrong.
[12:09] <CatKiller> daniellinux: Why do you want to do that?
[12:09] <bezaban> you will be fine without swap
[12:09] <daniellinux> cardiel, crash what?
[12:09] <bekks> removing swap will not harm or crash a system.
[12:09] <bekks> daniellinux: Dont listen to him.
[12:09] <daniellinux> bekks, ok
[12:09] <CatKiller> bekks: It will crash once he runs out of memory and OOM killer is called
[12:10] <bekks> CatKiller: No. The OOM killer does not care  about swap at all.
[12:10] <bekks> CatKiller: The OOM kills applications, not the abscence of swap.
[12:10] <daniellinux> i just want to merge 2 unallocated spaces, the swap partition is inside 2 of those.
[12:10] <CatKiller> A user asks you if he can remove his swap partition. This means he doesn't know what swap do, and saying "go ahead" is simply bad practice
[12:10] <bekks> CatKiller: And talking about OOM dont know what it ot, is bad practice too.
[12:10] <daniellinux> CatKiller, actually i will make swap again
[12:10] <CatKiller> bekks: It will crash once he runs out of memory and OOM killer is called and starts killing vital processes
[12:11] <bekks> *does
[12:11] <bezaban> CatKiller: re-read the original question
[12:11] <bekks> CatKiller: The abscence of swap is irrelevant for the OOM to start killing process.
[12:11] <ArielX_> if I want to upload pics here , how?
[12:11] <bekks> *processes
[12:11] <CatKiller> bekks: The absence of memory is
[12:11] <andreiiar> Omg can you stop helping the others and focus on me please?
[12:11] <bezaban> it is not intended to be permanent, and I've run systems without swap partitions without issues
[12:11] <vijaya> *** Unable to find SDL_ttf library
[12:11] <vijaya> olve this error
[12:12] <bekks> CatKiller: correct. which is not swap. Memory is memory, swap is swap.
[12:12] <CatKiller> andreiiar: Did you try what I suggested?
[12:12] <wylde> !paste | ArielX_
[12:12] <CatKiller> bekks: Don't worry
[12:12] <andreiiar> catkiller: I don;t have my laptop with me/
[12:13] <Neptu> hej
[12:13] <kees_> Hello this is Kees
[12:13] <vijaya> CatKiller: I did what u said again it is showing some other error
[12:13] <stevecam> has anyone had any success with electricsheep in raring?
[12:13] <CatKiller> andreiiar: It's not going to be easy then. Ubuntu will configure a resolution. If that's incompatible you won't be able to see much. Can you SSH to it maybe?
[12:13] <ArielX_> ty
[12:13] <ActionParsnip> stevecam: Im sure many have
[12:13] <CatKiller> vijaya: What error is it showing?
[12:13] <stevecam> im trying to run it, nothing is coming up
[12:13] <daniellinux> so it means i can remove swap for sometime?
[12:14] <andreiiar> catkiller: i think i can. what then?
[12:14] <vijaya> configure: error: *** Unable to find SDL_ttf library
[12:14] <stevecam> ummmm.... nevermind
[12:14] <CatKiller> daniellinux: You shouldn't if you don't know why you shouldn't. But it won't make your machine explode
[12:14] <Neptu> have a question I have a very anoying problem with the grouping of windows with alt-tab, if I have 5 terminas I have to wait until ungroups and then select the one I want so is kinda slow... there is any way to see all terminasl an one list and select it directly with alt-tab??
[12:14] <ActionParsnip> stevecam: http://askubuntu.com/questions/287507/electricsheep-not-working-in-raring-13-04
[12:14] <daniellinux> CatKiller, ok
[12:15] <ActionParsnip> Neptu: if you use terminal a lot, use guake and you can show/hide it with a shortcut key (F12 by default) and you can name tabs as youu wish
[12:15] <ActionParsnip> Neptu: doesnt get mixed in with the ALT-TAB mess then
[12:15] <mtnnn> i can not open
[12:15] <Neptu> ActionParsnip, thanks for the tip
[12:15] <mtnnn> dialog box how can i open
[12:15] <vijaya> Catkiller: I have installed all the packages including SDL
[12:15] <ActionParsnip> stevecam: http://www.webupd8.org/2011/11/how-to-get-electric-sheep-to-work-with.html
[12:15] <ActionParsnip> Neptu: yakuake is a KDE equiv
[12:15] <mtnnn> for invidual  dialol box ?
[12:15] <rkzii> Neptu: If you use gnome as desktop environment, there's an extension that will return the normal alt+tab behaviour
[12:15] <ActionParsnip> Neptu: tilda is a light version (good for lxde/xfce)
[12:15] <CatKiller> andreiiar: You could try that: http://askubuntu.com/questions/142822/how-can-i-change-the-default-screen-resolution/142831#142831
[12:16] <Neptu> ActionParsnip, no problem never used it even heard of it so i think i go for it
[12:17] <rkzii> Neptu: https://extensions.gnome.org/extension/15/alternatetab/
[12:17] <ActionParsnip> Neptu: it hides and shws like the terminal in doom2 / halflife etc
[12:17] <CatKiller> vijaya: Compiling stuff from source usually is not that simple. Once you fix this message you will get another error, and another, and another until all dependencies are met
[12:17] <CatKiller> vijaya: In that case, try googling "ubuntu install <dependency>"
[12:17] <ActionParsnip> Neptu: you can run long commands then hide it, keep checking on it by re-showing it
[12:17] <ActionParsnip> Neptu: imho it should be default
[12:18] <CatKiller> vijaya: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=232277
[12:18] <vijaya> ok...  CatKiller
[12:18] <CatKiller> vijaya: A good practice is also to add "lib" before the library name and use "tab completion" with apt-get install
[12:19] <CatKiller> vijaya: "apt get install lib<first few characters of library name>"
[12:19] <CatKiller> and tab
[12:19] <sled> Hi
[12:19] <ActionParsnip> CatKiller: yes, the package names can be tab completed
[12:19] <CatKiller> or sometimes it will be "python-<lib name"
[12:19] <CatKiller> vijaya: There is no easy solution. Or actually there is: "apt", but for direct from source there isn't
[12:19] <sled> can anyone tell me why the package cuda-cross-armhf is not installable using APT? I get dependecies problems, it complains that it is not installable
[12:20] <vijaya> ok
[12:21] <Neptu> ActionParsnip, hej how I do to only see guake in one workspace only... I have it everywhere
[12:21] <ActionParsnip> Neptu: not sure there, I only use 1 workspace
[12:21] <BluesKaj> HI all
[12:21] <Neptu> ActionParsnip, looking at preferences but i do not find it
[12:22] <Maddock> Hello everyone, I got a question concerning server ip/vpn. How can 1 ip with different ports be in 2 different countries? e.g.: http://www.gametracker.com/search/?query=198.27.81.171
[12:23] <ikonia> Maddock: how is this anything to do with ubuntu ?
[12:23] <ikonia> Maddock: what ?
[12:23] <CatKiller> Maddock: That has no relation with Ubuntu. Anyways it's not, the server redirects it and does load balancing
[12:31] <matthias_arch> hi, is somebody familiar with BitMessage?
[12:32] <tilerendering> can I disconnect from a vncserver session without the desktop being reset i.e. without logging out ?
[12:32] <bekks> tilerendering: Just close the vncviewer window.
[12:32] <k1l> !anyone | matthias_arch
[12:33] <Maddock> !details
[12:33] <bezaban> does sldapd store it's databases in /opt/ldap by default in ubuntu?
[12:34] <bezaban> slapd*
[12:35] <matthias_arch> I've started my own Project for my RaspberryPI.  I got a BitMessageDaemon running on my PI and now I'm  Developing a graphical user interface to controll the  daemon and send messages. if you don't know visit:  bitmessage.org and  https://github.com/Mattze96/BitMessageClient. I've made  a couple of videos from a pre-stage of my programm
[12:36] <axtheb> bezaban: no
[12:36] <ikonia> matthias_arch: how does this relate to ubuntu ?
[12:36] <bezaban> axtheb: as was my suspicion. upside is apparmor scripts are correct, downside is it breaks upgrades on some of these systems :(
[12:37] <bezaban> thanks
[12:38] <axtheb> bezaban: /var/lib/ldap
[12:39] <Rory> Ubuntu 12.04, Mate 1.6.0 -  Is Mate supported in this channel? I'd like to know how to set the "primary" monitor in a dual-display setup, that is, the monitor the panels display on. I used to be able to "hack" it by disabling and then renabling the second monitor, but doing this now just puts the panels back on the second screen again
[12:40] <ikonia> Rory: isn't mate in the multiverse repo ?
[12:40] <k1l> Rory: for mate support please see the mint support channels. mate is not in the repos
[12:40] <ikonia> k1l: is it not in multiverse now ?
[12:40] <k1l> ikonia: cinnamon is in the repos since 13.04, iirc
[12:40] <Ben64> yeah i get those two confused all the time
[12:41] <ikonia> I thought mate had also slipped in - despite how bad it's concept is
[12:41] <Rory> ikonia: Mate is my waifu, I'm trying to make my desktop look and feel like 8.04
[12:41] <Ben64> mate is the gnome 2 zombie, cinnamon is gnome 3, mate isn't and hopefully never will be in repo
[12:41] <ikonia> Ben64: I thought it had slipped in too, I'm pleased to see I'm wrong
[12:41] <Ben64> Rory: use gnome-fallback or something
[12:42] <ikonia> Rory: your waifu ?
[12:42] <k1l> Rory: take a look at xubuntu or lubuntu if you want gnome2 style
[12:42] <Rory> Ben64: Nono, there is a way, I used to be able to do it. I just wondered if anyone in here knew off the top of their head
[12:42] <Rory> I specifically want Mate. It's OK I'll find it eventually, I only googled for a couple of minutes before asking
[12:42] <Ben64> well mate definitely isn't supported here and isn't good anyway. you should use something better
[12:42] <k1l> Rory: best way is to ask the mint guys, since they use and build that desktop software
[12:42] <Rory> k1l: spochat?
[12:43] <Rory> !mint | rory
[12:43] <k1l> !mintsupport
[12:43] <ActionParsnip> Rory: Cinammon is in the repos of 12.10 and up (if memory serves)
[12:44] <Rory> ActionParsnip: I know, I use Cinnamon full-time at work, it suits me there.
[12:44] <k1l> ActionParsnip: nope. since raring
[12:44] <lenz> Hey there! I'm on a fresh install of 13.10
[12:44] <Ben64> i use gnome-fallback. looks and feels just like 10.04 did, but is better
[12:44] <ActionParsnip> k1l: bah, close
[12:44] <lenz> How can I remove the amazon scope?
[12:44] <ActionParsnip> lenz: ask in #ubuntu+1 for Saucy support, til release day
[12:45] <k1l> lenz: best is to ask in the #ubuntu+1 for not released versions
[12:45] <lenz> Okay, thank you
[12:45] <lenz> That channel seems to be empty though... :/
[12:46] <lenz> ouh, nevermind
[12:46] <ActionParsnip> lenz: its still only supported there
[12:46] <Rory> lenz: Channel #ubuntu+1: 166 nicks (1 op, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 165 normals)
[12:48] <ActionParsnip> lenz: if you cant resolve simple things like that without having to ask, you probably shouldnt be using pre-releases
[12:50] <lenz> ActionParsnip, I was just irritated because "sag remove unity-lens-shopping" didn't resolve
[12:50] <lenz> the amazon lense is not a separate package anymore
[12:50] <ActionParsnip> lenz: maybe its a bug. Saucy is not ready and not stable....
[12:50] <ikonia> sag ?
[12:51] <ActionParsnip> ikonia: sudo apt-get
[12:51] <daniellinux> how to make a extended partition
[12:51] <daniellinux> ?
[12:51] <bekks> !fdisk | daniellinux
[12:51] <bekks> hmm.
[12:51] <ActionParsnip> daniellinux: use gparted
[12:51] <Pici> lenz: Please keep Saucy issues in #ubuntu+1, thats where they belong.
[12:51] <ikonia> ah
[12:51] <k1l> lenz: this is not the saucy channel. stop that drama!
[12:51] <ActionParsnip> ikonia: some people make aliases for it ;)
[12:52] <ikonia> k1l: my fault I was curious to what sag was
[12:52] <daniellinux> what i mean is Gparted is not showing any option to make a extended partition only primary partition.
[12:53] <ActionParsnip> daniellinux: how many primary partitions do you have
[12:53] <daniellinux> 1 primary partition and 1 extended partition
[12:54] <daniellinux> ActionParsnip, ^
[12:56] <daniellinux> ?
[12:56] <Rory> Oh I worked out how to move the panels to another monitor! If you right-click on the panel and go properties, then untick "expand", you can see a grab-handle, which you can use to drag and drop the panel to another monitor, and then turn "expand" on again =)
[12:56] <daniellinux> any help?
[12:56] <Rory> daniellinux: What happens if you try to make an extended partition, is the option just greyed out?
[12:57] <daniellinux> Rory, yes that is grey/ not clickable
[12:57] <Rory> daniellinux: How many partitions do you have, currently? Could you please post the ouput from the command: "sudo fdisk -l" onto http://paste.ubuntu.com and let me know the URL?
[12:58] <daniellinux> Rory, i have 1 primary partition EXT4, 1 extended partition with 2 partition in them
[13:00] <daniellinux> ?
[13:01] <daniellinux> hello?
[13:01] <ActionParsnip> daniellinux: you can only have 1 extended partition
[13:01] <daniellinux> ActionParsnip, oh ok
[13:01] <ActionParsnip> daniellinux: you can mak lots of logical partitions in the extended
[13:02] <daniellinux> ActionParsnip, any way to move unallocated space in extended partition?
[13:02] <ActionParsnip> daniellinux: you could resize the extended partition
[13:03] <daniellinux> ActionParsnip, Ok
[13:07] <scotty^> So what's new?
[13:13] <ddssc> when I run something that has a lot of output, how do I specify it to break into pages so I can browse it , like more/less....
[13:13] <daftykins> what is it?
[13:13] <ddssc> because if I just run I won't be able to see evertything in the terminal
[13:13] <bezaban> ddssc: pipe it to more or less with |
[13:13] <bezaban> ie. command | less
[13:14] <ddssc> bezaban: cheers
[13:14] <Pici> ddssc: fyi: press q to quit less.
[13:14] <bezaban> ddssc: and that's just the beginning of incredibly useful things you can use redirection of output for :)
[13:15] <ddssc> bezaban: yea I know I can pipe it into whatever, just didnt know the exact name heh... like less is actually called 'less', unlike say.. move which is called 'mv' ... but fuck conventions amirite
[13:15] <Rory> !cli | ddssc
[13:16] <daftykins> ddssc: family friendly language in here please good sir
[13:17] <ddssc> ^^
[13:18] <ddssc> I learned not to use man, too much info and not specific enough. googling it is usually 10x faster than man. and asking on irc is 10x faster than googling
[13:18] <ddssc> :F
[13:18] <Rory> ddssc: Google first at least once before asking, surely?
[13:18] <ddssc> mmmh... if I must
[13:18] <Rory> ddssc: All anyone in here does it Google for you :P
[13:18] <ddssc> :)
[13:19] <Pici> Rory: some of us actually know this stuff.
[13:19] <CatKiller> Why use google when you have real human slaves! That's efficiency! :p
[13:19] <Rory> Pici: True, true, and oftentimes I know enough to know what to Google, whereas the person asking the question doesn't
[13:19] <CatKiller> I have to agree though, you should at least google stuff if you can
[13:20] <CatKiller> This channel is for desperate people who have no idea how to fix things
[13:20] <CatKiller> Not a human googling service ;)
[13:20] <vic__> hi everybody!
[13:20] <Rory> vic__: Hello
[13:20] <ddssc> CatKiller: yes, but for example someone who's not familiar with expression pipe and terminal, ie. 99% of normal users, will not google 'linux pipe into less' but they'll google 'thingie to make text not dissapear in the command thingie'
[13:20] <vic__> can someone please explain me why I can't install crossbuild-essential-armhf on a fresh ubuntu 13.04? It tells that its not installable
[13:21] <CatKiller> ddssc: Then you couldn't google it
[13:21] <ddssc> :p
[13:21] <vic__> crossbuild-essential-armhf : Depends: libc6-dev:armhf but it is not installable
[13:21] <vic__> I have really searched for that, but I can't get rid of it
[13:21] <CatKiller> ddssc: You said you could have gotten the answer by googling, and that it was already 10 times faster than man, but IRC is yet faster so you chose IRC
[13:21] <ddssc> CatKiller: googling requires certain amount of knowledge. and I didn't even try googling this particular one.
[13:22] <Rory> vic__: What is the output of "sudo apt-get install libc6-dev:armhf"
[13:22] <vic__> Rory: no installation candidate
[13:23] <Rory> !arm | vic__
[13:23] <Rory> vic__: Looks like maybe an ARM-specific issue?
[13:23] <vic__> Rory: I am on x86_64
[13:23] <vic__> and I need to install that cross compiler
[13:23] <Rory> Right, I get you. One minute
[13:23] <vic__> ok
[13:24] <Rory> vic__: sudo dpkg --add-architecture armhf
[13:24] <CatKiller> ddssc: That's my point ;)
[13:24] <vic__> Rory: I tried that before, but let's do it again, hold on
[13:25] <Rory> vic__: then "sudo apt-get update"
[13:25] <CatKiller> ddssc: You said you could have gotten the exact reply googling. In which case asking here is not the best solution. If you lacked knowledge to google then you couldn't google, in which case asking here is fine
[13:26] <vic__> Rory: I performed update, but it is not finding repos.... dpkg --add-architecture armhf
[13:26] <vic__> sorry....
[13:26] <CatKiller> ddssc: But you can't say: "Ahhh minions, give me the answer, I can get the answer in 10 seconds on google but you'll be faster" just to hide the fact that you actually didn't know what to google for :p
[13:26] <digitalfiz> I have a docking station with my second monitor and everytime I dock I have to open catalyst and reset it up. Is there a way to automate this?
[13:26] <vic__> Rory: I performed update, but it is not finding repos.... W: Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/raring-proposed/universe/binary-armhf/Packages  404  Not Found [IP: 91.189.91.15 80]
[13:26] <CatKiller> ddssc: Not important anyways
[13:26] <digitalfiz> It defaults to mirrored display so I'm thinking there should be away to change that default
[13:27] <vic__> Rory: I don't get why the repo for armhf shouldnt exist...
[13:27] <ddssc> CatKiller: nah I'm pretty sure I could've googled this one, it would just be 1 or 2 queries to get it. but yea, slaves work better.
[13:28] <mfilipe> how can I configure the Facebook chat to work on Empathy? it always ask me about authorization
[13:30] <mfilipe> or is there any IM client which works well integrate with Ubuntu?
[13:31] <lenz> many people like pidgin
[13:31] <mfilipe> lenz: is it very well integrate with Ubuntu? it uses the Online Accounts, for example?
[13:32] <lenz> mfilipe, I cannot say for sure, but I'd think so
[13:33] <vic__> nothing?
[13:34] <daniellinux> what is "free space following" in gparted partition resize?
[13:34] <k1l_> daniellinux: how much free space will be there behind the partition
[13:35] <daniellinux> k1l_, ok
[13:39] <sharpy35> hey guys, i have a question, i installed ubuntu today and using it with a dual display, but i have those starter bar on both of them , how can i prevent that?
[13:40] <Rory> sharpy35: If you go to display settings there's an option for which display to show the Unity launcher on
[13:40] <k1l_> sharpy35: install "unity-tweak-tool" and change the behaviour
[13:40] <Rory> Oh am I wrong?
[13:40] <sharpy35> ah thanks :) found it
[13:40] <Rory> sharpy35: unity-tweak-tool is a nifty bit of kit to keep around anyway
[13:41] <sharpy35> and another question: when i am watching a video on one display and try to chat whilst on the other, the video is getting minified
[13:41] <sharpy35>  can i prevent that in any way?
[13:41] <Rory> sharpy35: What video player? Or do you mean Youtube?
[13:41] <sharpy35> like kinox.to and some stuff like that
[13:41] <k1l_> flash fullscreen?
[13:41] <Rory> sharpy35: Also can you just clarify what Ubuntu version you installed?
[13:42] <sharpy35> the neweset 13.04
[13:42] <sharpy35> 32 bit verison
[13:42] <k1l_> that is not gonna work :/
[13:42] <sharpy35> kll_: why not?
[13:42] <Omen_20> Hi. Could anyone fill be in on the importance of Upstart Sessions in 13.10? I've tried reading into it but I'm not seeing any info on tangible improvements for the user. Will it be faster, or use less resources?
[13:42] <Rory> sharpy35: http://www.webupd8.org/2012/10/ubuntu-multi-monitor-tweaks-full-screen.html
[13:43] <Rory> sharpy35: There are Firefox and Chrome extensions you can install apparently =)
[13:43] <Rory> sharpy35: Fullscreen flash on Linux is a hilarious historical bugbear though
[13:43] <roflin_> ik wil echt heel snel typen
[13:43] <k1l_> flash is a bugbear
[13:43] <Pici> !de | roflin_
[13:43] <sharpy35> thanks for the artikel , i guess it will help me out :)
[13:43] <roflin_> Pici: sorry wrong channel and its dutch :>
[13:44] <Pici> roflin_: whoops.  Was going by your hostname.
[13:44] <sharpy35> i know, but those websites use it to display their videos :)
[13:44] <Rory> Pici: To be fair I thought it was German too
[13:44] <Rory> !dutch | roflin_
[13:44] <roflin_> Pici: yeah fair enough (its a virtual server in germany it's very cheap but also off-topic) :>
[13:44] <roflin_> mmm freshly made koffie
[13:44]  * Rory spells it koffie now forever
[13:45] <roflin_> yeah I'm still half asleep (its koffie in dutch) but coffee in english ofc...
[13:46] <{-r-}> When I try creating a truecrypt volume it pops up with an error
[13:47] <sharpy35> kill_: i am installing it now the way its mentioned in the article :)
[13:47] <sharpy35> thanks for that :)
[13:50] <hilmy> somebody can help me?
[13:51] <stevecam> what success has anybody had with electricsheep?
[13:51] <hilmy> i've a prob with openvpn-as
[13:51] <hilmy> i got this message "iptables service not started because of error (SVC_RUN_EXCEPT)"
[13:51] <hilmy> can you help to solved it?
[13:51] <dangle> irc.efnet.net
[13:55] <Xerofyte> !cmake | Xerofyte
[14:04] <twobitsprite> I'm running Ubuntu precise with cinnamon... When I plug in a second monitor to my laptop, it doesn't automatically extend my desktop, but as soon as I open the "displays" configuration it does (without me actually clicking anything in the configuration window)...
[14:04] <twobitsprite> any idea what I might need to do for it to automatically do it without having to open the displays configuration?
[14:05] <daftykins> twobitsprite: is it a laptop?
[14:06] <twobitsprite> daftykins: yes
[14:06] <daftykins> twobitsprite: can you use the function key display output toggle instead?
[14:06] <twobitsprite> daftykins: doesn't seem to do anything
[14:06] <daftykins> oh, that's not great
[14:09] <twobitsprite> good ole
[14:09] <twobitsprite> er, good ole' lenovo
[14:09] <loa> hello i have, nvidia 560 gtx, and i want buy second monitor, i want for can be run game on one monitor, on other i want watch film
[14:09] <loa> today it is possible?
[14:09] <loa> or browse internet
[14:13] <vusie> hello?
[14:13] <daftykins> hi.
[14:14] <cfhowlett> vusie, greetings
[14:14] <vusie> how yous guys
[14:15] <vusie> need help with equalizing vlc in n curses mode(terminal)...hope its not off topic
[14:15] <fourq> I think encrypting my Ubuntu 13.04 machine has made it sluggish.
[14:15] <daniellinux> can i make swap in extended partition?
[14:15] <daftykins> daniellinux: yes
[14:15] <k1l_> daniellinux: yes
[14:16] <daniellinux> ok thanks daftykins k1l_
[14:16] <fourq> also when encrypted, reboot hangs on 2 diff machine
[14:16] <daftykins> fourq: yeah, encryption will do that
[14:17] <fourq> well, the instlal is still fresh enough that I can re-install without it. I can work around that part
[14:17] <fourq> with other tools
[14:19] <Blacklite_> ubuntu is babby's first shit distro. debian sucks
[14:19] <tilerendering> how can I start a desktop application in ubuntu in superuser mode ? (without being logged in as superuser)
[14:19] <vusie> ppl
[14:20] <vusie> tilerendering: sudo
[14:20] <Rory> !sudo | tilerendering
[14:20] <vusie> sudo "name_of_application"
[14:22] <cfhowlett> !language|Blacklite_,   vent elsewhere please.  This is a support channel.
[14:23] <tilerendering> errm
[14:23] <tilerendering> I know "sudo"
[14:23] <tilerendering> but how do I - using the desktop gui - and not being logged in in there as a superuser - tell the GUI/window manager that I want to start a certain app in the menu in superuser mode
[14:24] <cfhowlett> !gksudo
[14:24] <kongthap> Titanium: you must type "gksu your_program"
[14:24] <Rory> tilerendering: ^
[14:25] <kongthap> Titanium: sorry wrong name :P
[14:25] <tilerendering> well then I have to know the path to the program ;)
[14:25] <tilerendering> which - from the gnome app menu - i cant seem to figure out
[14:25] <tilerendering> rightclick wont help
[14:26] <Rory> tilerendering: What is the program?
[14:27] <SuperLag> If you've removed a previous kernel package after an update, how can you reinstall an older kernel?
[14:29] <Rory> SuperLag: apt-cache search linux-image
[14:29] <Rory> SuperLag: install the version you want
[14:31] <daniellinux> what to put in "free space following" while resizing a extended partition?
[14:32] <sircutz> Hi, have to get the wireless card dell 1395 mini with broadcom chip going. Id everything and have a tar gz file downloaded . How to sudo and install from the drive? Anybody?
[14:32] <sircutz> I just installed raring ringtail gnome desktop ubuntu
[14:32] <sircutz> on the laptop.
[14:32] <SuperLag> yeah.... only the current one is showing up in the list
[14:32] <cfhowlett> sircutz, easier to plug in a hardwire network connection and run the additional driver utility
[14:33] <daniellinux> ?
[14:33] <sircutz> I have the network up with wire. How do i? I am doing updates and all but even though I enabled hardware no wireless?
[14:33] <daniellinux> help
[14:34] <cfhowlett> sircutz, look under settings > additional drivers
[14:34] <sircutz> system settings - not there. different place? Thanks.
[14:34] <MrQuist> daniellinux, 2mb
[14:34] <cfhowlett> sircutz, I'm on Xubuntu so my arrangement might differ ...
[14:34] <SteveBell> hi all. trying to use the LibreOffice pre-release ppa, but when pasting deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/libreoffice/libreoffice-prereleases/ubuntu raring main  in to the terminal I jsut get "command not found"
[14:35] <Rory> SteveBell: Are you following a guide?
[14:35] <Rory> !ppa | SteveBell please read this first you are doing it wrong
[14:35] <SteveBell> Rory: y https://launchpad.net/~libreoffice/+archive/libreoffice-prereleases
[14:35] <Rory> Oh that didn't have the information I was hoping for
[14:35] <sircutz> Yea. this one is new. the gnome was out before , i did not like new ubuntu desktop.
[14:35] <Rory> SteveBell: Do you see the section on that page that says "ADDING THIS PPA TO YOUR SYSTEM"?
[14:36] <sircutz> Can you tell how to get the package from the hdd installl cfhowlett?
[14:36] <Rory> SteveBell: Read it and do what it says
[14:36] <Rory> SteveBell: https://launchpad.net/+help-soyuz/ppa-sources-list.html
[14:36] <SteveBell> reading now. ok thanks Rory
[14:37] <fourq> so is it complete or what? lol http://i.imgur.com/MGLmu0U.png
[14:37] <cfhowlett> sircutz, see the wiki    https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx
[14:37] <Rory> fourq: Wait for it to say it's finished
[14:37] <MrQuist> daniellinux ?
[14:37] <MrQuist> daniellinux answer me
[14:37] <Rory> MrQuist: She quit
[14:37] <sircutz> Great link , I am going there. thanks.
[14:37] <MrQuist> she?
[14:37] <MrQuist> i read daniellle as well
[14:37] <MrQuist> but its Daniel Linux
[14:38] <Rory> Doesn't change the fact he quit
[14:38] <MrQuist> true i just noticed
[14:38] <SteveBell> any reason I have to shift + ctrl + v to paste in the terminal instead of the cmd + v?
[14:38] <fourq> Rory: I think it's done ;) http://i.imgur.com/cCdvPj0.png
[14:38] <Rory> fourq: What does show details say?
[14:40] <fourq> Rory: a lot, but not copy & pastable
[14:40] <mregg> Hi all -- anybody familiar with freenx?
[14:41] <fourq> segfault
[14:41] <cfhowlett> mregg, only to say it's not supported here ... sorry
[14:41] <fourq> Rory: attempting to boot from it anyway
[14:41] <fourq> seems to be working
[14:43] <daniellinux> ok i am really confused now, i am unable to resize a extended partition, it is always showing me error. what to do?
[14:44] <daniellinux> any help?
[14:44] <bekks> daniellinux: You should tell us the error. We cant guess it.
[14:45] <daniellinux> bekks, Unable to satisfy all constraints on the partition.
[14:46] <bekks> daniellinux: Then something you want to do is wrong.
[14:46] <daniellinux> bekks, do i need to paste the output?
[14:46] <Nosophorus> hi!
[14:46] <bekks> daniellinux: Yes.
[14:46] <Nosophorus> is there a way to associate nautilus to a specific thumbnailer?
[14:47] <Hungary> How do I save and exit a GNU nano file on ubuntu server?
[14:47] <Snake2k> Hey guys, my ubuntu 12.04 doesn't shut down, like... It gets stuck at the splash screen and doesn't shut down :( I tried one solution "acpi=force" but that worked once, not anymore :(
[14:47] <cfhowlett> !ubuntu-server|Hungary,
[14:48] <bwayne> Hungary: exit nano with <ctrl>x.  It'll ask you if you want to save.
[14:48] <auronandace> Hungary: ctrl X (it says it at the bottom of the screen (^X))
[14:48] <daniellinux> bekks, http://pastebin.com/kFG5fBY3
[14:48] <Pici> cfhowlett: ubuntu-server questions are allowed here.  nano isn't exactly a server-class editor.
[14:49] <cfhowlett> Pici, OK
[14:49] <Nosophorus> dudes. . .
[14:49] <Nosophorus> is there a way to associate nautilus to a specific thumbnailer?
[14:50] <bekks> daniellinux: Your constraints are wrong then. You cant grow your partitition the way you want.
[14:50] <bekks> daniellinux: Pastebin the output of "sudo fdisk -l" please.
[14:51] <Hungary> How do I save and exit from VI?
[14:51] <Hungary> !VI
[14:51] <bwayne> Hungary: type ':x'
[14:53] <Hungary> If I just set up a static IP for my server, how do I connect to it using SSH?
[14:53] <xwalk> !html
[14:53] <Hungary> Meaning, which IP do I connect to? gateway, network, address , mask
[14:53] <Nosophorus> is there a way to associate nautilus to a specific thumbnailer?
[14:54] <Hungary> !ssh
[14:54] <bwayne> Hungary: the IP address
[14:54] <ActionParsnip> Hungary: install openssh-server
[14:54] <Finkelstein> Julian Assange
[14:55] <daniellinux> bekks, http://pastebin.com/4NnZbir9
[14:55] <Hungary> ActionParsnip:I already installed it when I installed the server
[14:56] <hillary_> Am un able to project documents using lcd projector though it is showing the desktop icon
[14:56] <hillary_> ubuntu 12.04
[14:56] <Hungary> Is their any other command I have to do to activate SSH?
[14:56] <ActionParsnip> Hungary: ok, then run:   ssh username@server.ip.address.here
[14:56] <cfhowlett> hillary_, you have to select the projector ... usually the F1 key on a laptop and you'll see the menu
[14:56] <ActionParsnip> Hungary: eg:    ssh user@192.168.0.1
[14:57] <narcos> Hi all. Any tips on getting GPS coords from the CLI with a USB device?
[14:57] <Finkelstein> how dra you
[14:57] <Finkelstein> how dare you
[14:57] <Finkelstein> zionists
[14:57] <Finkelstein> ban me?
[14:57] <eliang> Hey, i use 2 layouts and swap between them, the problem is that very often it just swaps itself, is there any shortcut for that behavior that I'm not aware of ?
[14:57] <cfhowlett> !ops|Finkelstein,
[14:57] <hillary_> cfholett: ok let me try
[14:57] <bekks> daniellinux: Can you pastebin a screenshot of gparted before doing any changes, then do the changes, and screenshot again, prior clicking ok?
[14:57] <eliang> s/layout/keyboard layouts
[14:57] <narcos> I'm using gpsmon, but don't seem to be getting a fix.
[14:58] <daniellinux> bekks, ok
[14:58] <FloodBot1> Finkelstein: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:58] <Finkelstein> jewish banking mafia
[14:58] <Finkelstein> kille dour world
[14:58] <Snake2k> Hey guys, my thunar-shares-plugin only works for root, how do I allow it for any other user?
[14:58] <Snake2k> Xubuntu
[14:58] <Hungary> Do I have to run sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart to start up SSH?
[14:59] <bekks> Hungary: No.
[14:59] <Rory> !xubuntu | Snake2k Thunar is a Xubuntu specific technology
[14:59] <Rory> Snake2k: However, this might be of interest http://goodies.xfce.org/projects/thunar-plugins/thunar-shares-plugin
[14:59] <eliang> Repost: i use 2 keybord layouts and swap between them, the problem is that very often it just swaps itself, is there any shortcut for that behavior that I'm not aware of ?
[15:00] <Rory> !patience | eliang it seems nobody in here right now knows
[15:00] <Snake2k> Rory: Thank you very much :)
[15:00] <eliang> thanks
[15:01] <MangaKaDenza> yo dawgs
[15:01] <MangaKaDenza> is there any way I can change the system font from ubuntu to Segoe UI ?
[15:02] <Rory> eliang: What Ubuntu version are you using?
[15:02] <Rory> MangaKaDenza: What Ubuntu version are you using?
[15:02] <MangaKaDenza> 13.04
[15:02] <daniellinux> bekks, do i need to put anything in "free space following" ?
[15:02] <MangaKaDenza> Rawrin ringtail
[15:03] <bekks> daniellinux: If you want free space after your partition, yes.
[15:03] <daniellinux> bekks, yes i want that.
[15:03] <bekks> daniellinux: Then fill something in there...
[15:03] <daniellinux> bekks, but what to put? it always becames 0
[15:04] <Rory> MangaKaDenza: Take a look at Unity Tweak Tool https://apps.ubuntu.com/cat/applications/unity-tweak-tool/
[15:04] <bekks> daniellinux: fill in the amount of space you want to keep after that partition.
[15:04] <daniellinux> bekks, ok
[15:07] <narcos> Hmm, I'm getting this error:  # gpsctl -f -n /dev/ttyUSB0     gpsctl:SHOUT: vendor/product match with 091e:0003 not found, gpsctl:ERROR: packet recognition timed out.
[15:08] <narcos> It's a BlueNext BN903S GPS USB adapter
[15:09] <Rory> narcos: Can you run the command "sudo dmesg" and paste the output on http://paste.ubuntu.com then let me know the URL?
[15:09] <Nosophorus> is there a way to associate nautilus to a specific thumbnailer?
[15:10] <daniellinux> bekks, when i change "new size" the "free space preceding" changes according to that, but the "free space following" remains 0 while I want free space
[15:10] <narcos> Rory: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6188475/
[15:11] <Hungary> Could someone please help me getting SSH to work, I cant seem to get connected to it.
[15:11] <Rory> narcos: Could you please do the same for "lsusb -v" ?
[15:11] <Rory> Hungary: What happens when you try? Where are you trying to ssh to?
[15:11] <bekks> daniellinux: then your selection does not allow free space afer your partition.
[15:12] <daniellinux> bekks, ok so that meaning I can't resize it?
[15:12] <Hungary> Rory:The SSH client says it cannont connect, to my server thats in the room next door.
[15:12] <daniellinux> bekks, *means
[15:12] <Rory> Hungary: Can you ping the server (ping ip.of.the.server)
[15:12] <narcos> Rory: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6188496/
[15:12] <narcos> Rory: (thanks for the help btw)
[15:13] <bekks> daniellinux: That means: your selection is wrong. It does not allow what you are trying to do. Did you paste the screenshots already?
[15:13] <Hungary> Rory:Ping the server from the server?
[15:13] <Rory> narcos: Is the GPS reciever plugged in right now?
[15:13] <Rory> Hungary: No, ping the server from the computer you're trying to connect from
[15:13] <narcos> Rory: Yes
[15:13] <narcos> "Bus 002 Device 012: ID 10c4:ea60 Cygnal Integrated Products, Inc. CP210x UART Bridge / myAVR mySmartUSB light"
[15:14] <Rory> narcos: Can you run "lsusb -v > output.txt" and then open output.txt in a text edit, and copy and paste it all to http://paste.ubuntu.com
[15:14] <Rory> narcos: I don't think that looks like a GPS reciever although I may e wrong
[15:15] <narcos> Rory: Was "http://paste.ubuntu.com/6188496/" not the right output from lsusb -v ?
[15:15] <Hungary> Rory:I cant try it, the computer im on now doesnt have cmd..its a chromebook
[15:16] <Reacto_> Suddenly cd does the same as ls, what to do?
[15:16] <Slagwag> hmmm
[15:16] <Slagwag> hard to get an IRC client to behave properly
[15:16] <narcos> Rory: It's odd that lsusb lists the usb id as "10c4:ea60", but the gpsctl -f /dev/ttyUSB0 gives "vendor/product match with 091e:0003 not found" ?
[15:16] <Slagwag> anyone use anything other then Konversation? I'm always in a ton of channels and trying to find one where the channel names on the tabs are easier to see
[15:17] <Reacto> Like the exact same thing, like I aliased cd to ls
[15:17] <bekks> Slagwag: I am using irssi.
[15:17] <Rory> Reacto: if you type \cd does it perform as expected?
[15:17] <Reacto> yes
[15:18] <Reacto> what does that mean?
[15:18] <Rory> Reacto: Then you have aliased it. Does it still happen if you restart your terminal session?
[15:18] <Reacto> yes, I've restarted ubuntu too
[15:18] <Rory> \command means "do the original, not the alias"
[15:18] <Rory> Reacto: Look in your .bashrc file
[15:18] <Hungary> bekks:Could you help me with getting SSH to work on my ubuntu server ?
[15:18] <Slagwag> bekks: ill checkout their layouts
[15:18] <Rory> Hungary: What ssh client are you using?
[15:18] <bekks> Hungary: Did you already install openssh-server?
[15:19] <Reacto> wtf, they're aliased
[15:19] <Reacto> but I didn't alias them
[15:19] <Hungary> Rory:Putty
[15:19] <Rory> Reacto: Maybe your computer is haunted
[15:19] <Reacto> maybe someone did it to fuck with me
[15:19] <Hungary> bekks:Yes.
[15:19] <Rory> Hungary: Do you know that there's actually an ssh server on the machine you're trying to connect to?
[15:19] <bekks> Hungary: Did you start it?
[15:19] <Rory> Hungary: If you run "ssh localhost" on the server does it work?
[15:19] <Hungary> bekks:I did not. How do I ?
[15:20] <Hungary> Rory:it says it cant be established
[15:20] <airtonix> :< my btrfs root filesystem won't mount. how do I start fixing this?
[15:20] <Hungary> Rory:then proceeds to ask if I want to continue
[15:20] <Rory> airtonix: Do you get an error? And what Ubuntu version?
[15:20] <bekks> Hungary: sudo /etc/init.d/ssh restart
[15:21] <Rory> Hungary: sudo service ssh restart
[15:21] <Rory> bekks: Does the openssh-server package not start the service after installation? I was under the impression it was common for Debian-based distributions to start services automatically after installation. RH based systems not so
[15:21] <airtonix> Rory: 13.04. at first I was dropped to initramfs shell
[15:22] <bekks> Rory: It does. Maybe he stopped it.
[15:22] <airtonix> Rory: now I can't get to the shell after a reboot
[15:22] <Rory> airtonix: Can you boot from recovery mode?
[15:22] <Rory> airtonix: Oh, has it ever worked?
[15:22] <airtonix> Rory: the machine is using refind and therefore is a uEFI bootable system
[15:22] <airtonix> Rory: yes Machine froze about 10 minutes ago while playing minecraft.
[15:23] <ashabadi> #join #ubuntu-bd
[15:23] <Rory> airtonix: uh-oh. I'd recommend booting from a live CD and running "fsck /dev/NameOfYourPartition"
[15:24] <daniellinux> bekks, I solved it, at last, actually i was a bit confused then, nevermind, thanks.
[15:26] <bekks> daniellinux: :)
[15:27] <Hungary> Rory: It still cannot connect
[15:27] <Rory> Hungary: What is the output (on the server) of the command: sudo service ssh status
[15:28] <mregg> On 12.04, I have no cropping options in Background settings. The listbox is totally gone. How do I get it back?
[15:28] <Hungary> Rory:ssh start/running, process 1352
[15:29] <Rory> Hungary: can you do "ssh localhost" on the server?
[15:29] <baphomet1> Is anyone around that can help me get connected to an OpenSwan L2TP tunnel using my ubuntu client?  I have tried and tried and tried and I am unable to get it to connect.
[15:30] <Hungary> Rory:It says the authenticity cant be establish, and it asks me if I want to continue
[15:30] <Rory> Hungary: OK, so you say yes
[15:30] <Rory> Hungary: That means at least SSH is working, the problem must be between the client and the server
[15:31] <Rory> Hungary: You really need to ping it somehow to find out if that's the problem, or a firewall
[15:31] <Rory> Any recommendations for a CLI audio player that supports gapless playback (ie not nVLC) - and I want a standlone solution (ie not MPD)
[15:32] <furu708> hi
[15:32] <Hungary> Rory:I was able to ping it, it says the host is unreachable
[15:32] <Rory> Hungary: Then you weren't able to ping it. Are they on the same network?
[15:32] <Hungary> Rory Yes
[15:32] <Rory> Hungary: How did you ping it?
[15:33] <Hungary> Rory:using cmd on a different computer
[15:33] <Rory> Hungary: You're on a Chromebook right? You can hit Ctrl+Alt+T to get a terminal
[15:33] <bekks> Hungary: ping is irrelevant for ssh to be working.
[15:33] <Rory> bekks: Not at all, if the computers can't even talk to each other they can't ssh either
[15:34] <ActionParsnip> Rory: mplayer
[15:34] <Rory> ActionParsnip: good call
[15:34] <ActionParsnip> Rory: mplayer is always a good call B)
[15:34] <bekks> Rory: Thats nonsense, honestly. You can even disable ICMP echo, so ping will not work at all without breaking any other service.
[15:34] <Rory> bekks: Someone who can't get SSH working is not going to have disabled ICMP echo
[15:35] <daftykins> they might depending on the firewall config
[15:35] <Hungary> Rory: I just tried again, the reply is destination host unreachable
[15:35] <Rory> Hungary: If you press ctrl+alt+t on the chromebook do you get a terminal?
[15:35] <Hungary> Yes
[15:35] <bekks> Rory: SSH is working: 1003 173015 < Hungary> Rory:It says the authenticity cant be establish, and it asks me if I want to continue
[15:35] <furu708> can someone tell me if this removed mit init.d folder, notice the free space bevor initscript ?  sudo mv init.ubuntu /etc/init.d/ initscript
[15:35] <Rory> bekks: That was "ssh localhost" on the server
[15:36] <Rory> furu708: No, it will have moved "init.ubuntu" into the folder "/etc/init.d"
[15:36] <bekks> Hungary: Which IPs do server and client have?
[15:36] <furu708> strange.. i cant find mit init.d folder oO
[15:37] <Hungary> bekks: I'm not sure what you mean by this
[15:37] <baphomet1> Is anyone around that can help me get connected to an OpenSwan L2TP tunnel using my ubuntu client?  I have tried and tried and tried and I am unable to get it to connect.
[15:37] <Rory> furu708: Oh hang on...
[15:37] <Rory> furu708: Yes "mv a b c" moves a and b to c
[15:37] <bekks> Hungary: You client (chromebook) and your ssh server need to have ip adresses.
[15:38] <Hungary> bekks:ok
[15:38] <tilerendering> man I hate putty for windows. I hate windows.
[15:38] <tilerendering> is there no ssh shell command for windows available ?
[15:38] <Hungary> bekks: are you asking me for the ips?
[15:38] <bekks> Hungary: Thats what I did, yes.
[15:38] <Rory> tilerendering: Putty and its derivatives are by far and away the best SSH client for Windows IMO
[15:38] <ActionParsnip> tilerendering: I believe powershell does it but I may be wrong
[15:39] <daftykins> tilerendering: nothing wrong with putty. also, kitty.
[15:39] <Rory> tilerendering: KiTTY is a fork of Putty with other bits added, take a look
[15:39] <furu708> Oh THANKS.. there is my init.d .. i was about to reinstall the system ^^
[15:39] <Hungary> bekks: 192.168.1.100 for the server, I dont know the IP of my chrombook
[15:39] <bekks> Hungary: Then find it out :)
[15:39] <tilerendering> what works super-fine with a simple ssh line in unix based systems doesnt work with putty on windows
[15:39] <Rory> Hungary: If you run "ping 192.168.1.100" from the chromebook's terminal (ctrl+alt+t) what do you see?
[15:39] <auronandace> tilerendering: you could try ssh through cygwin on windows
[15:39] <bekks> tilerendering: putty works fine with unix based servers.
[15:39] <Rory> tilerendering: What are you trying to do. I know Putty. PM me
[15:40] <Hungary> Rory: Unreachable.
[15:40] <Hungary> #ubuntu:bekks I dont know how to
[15:40] <baphomet1> Is anyone around that can help me get connected to an OpenSwan L2TP tunnel using my ubuntu client?  I have tried and tried and tried and I am unable to get it to connect.
[15:41] <Rory> !patience | baphomet1
[15:41] <bekks> Hungary: Whats the entire output of "ping 192.168.1.100"?
[15:41] <Rory> Hungary: run "ifconfig" from the terminal on the Chromebook
[15:41] <bekks> Hungary: Put it in a pastebin please.
[15:42] <ArielX_> bz@Benzino-Alone:~$ msfconsole
[15:42] <ArielX_> Could not find rake-10.0.3 in any of the sources
[15:42] <ArielX_> Run `bundle install` to install missing gems.
[15:42] <baphomet1> Rory, and if I don't repeat the question, people who enter the room will never see it, no?
[15:43] <bekks> baphomet1: correct. but dont repeat it every 30s seconds.
[15:43] <baphomet1> bekks, given the speed that things move in here, what is an acceptable interval?
[15:43] <ObrienDave> 5 to 15 minutes
[15:44] <baphomet1> ObrienDave, cool.
[15:44] <tilerendering> so I get there is no shell based ssh for windows
[15:44] <Hungary> Rory:ifconfig is unknown command
[15:44] <paulus68> tilerendering: putty will do just fine
[15:44] <bekks> Hungary: Then pastebin the output of ping 192.168.1.100 please.
[15:44] <tilerendering> it doesnt...
[15:45] <Hungary> bekks:http://pastebin.com/4vBbdXzY
[15:45] <paulus68> tilerendering: you can use putty to open a shell to your server or other linux machine
[15:45] <ActionParsnip> tilerendering: windows doesnt do a lot of good stuff without extra software
[15:45] <tilerendering> ….
[15:45] <bekks> Hungary: You ip is 192.168.1.106
[15:45] <Hungary> bekks:Ok
[15:46] <tilerendering> paulus: see.. .I have NO control on what putty tells me. I configure a tunnel and it just doesnt work
[15:46] <tilerendering> at least in unix I see the output in a shell
[15:46] <tilerendering> I see immediately whether the tunnel is setup or not
[15:46] <bekks> tilerendering: Then you are doing it wrong. I am using putty tunnels almost every day without problems.
[15:46] <ActionParsnip> tilerendering: set an app to use the tunnel and see if it works
[15:46] <tilerendering> action: ...
[15:46] <Hungary> bekks:How do I continue to fix the problem?
[15:46] <bekks> tilerendering: And without trying to use a tunnel you do not see wether it is working or not - in unix.
[15:47] <paulus68> tilerendering: what type of tunnel are your trying to setup a vpn for your browser or something else?
[15:47] <loa> bekks, i am watching you, and understand that you are icredibly patiant person, you are kind of paid support here or what?
[15:47] <bekks> loa: No, I am not paid.
[15:47] <paulus68> loa: we all try to be patient and help where we can
[15:48] <loa> you all are very cool.
[15:48] <ObrienDave> the hardest part is being patient ;))
[15:48] <daftykins> it'd be alright in here without the questions.
[15:48] <daftykins> ;)
[15:48] <bekks> daftykins: :D
[15:49] <ObrienDave> the questions aren't so bad... It's the people who refuse to listen to good advice that irritate the crap out of most of us LOL
[15:50] <daftykins> you missed the joke :( but it's ok
[15:50] <Hungary> bekks:How do I continue to resolve the problem?
[15:50] <ObrienDave> i got the joke. it's my dry sense of humor ;)
[15:50] <paulus68> tilerendering: try this one http://www.ideaexcursion.com/2008/12/29/socks-proxy-with-putty-and-ssh/
[15:51] <bekks> Hungary: pastebin "ifconfig -a" from both the client and the server.
[15:52] <daftykins> i wouldn't be surprised if a chromebook had ICMP echo disabled
[15:52] <Rory> bekks: I don't think the chromebook ships with ifconfig
[15:56] <loa> Is it hard to setup few monitors under ubuntu now? I want run different video output on one and work on other
[15:56] <loa> or play game and see output of different text information on other
[15:56] <bekks> loa: Worked out of the box here.
[15:56] <Rory> loa: What Ubuntu version?
[15:56] <loa> 13.10
[15:57] <loa> bekks, so just buy another monitor and all will be ok?
[15:57] <tirengarfio> what is the best twitter client for console?
[15:57] <labsin> loa, Just type `monitors` in the dash
[15:57] <loa> videocard is nvidia 560 gtx
[15:57] <bekks> loa: For me, it worked. It may not work for you.
[15:57] <allballs> Good day. Quick question about a HD swap. I've taken an SSD with 13.04 installed and running quite well from an older box and put it into a newer i5. When the new machine boots, I see bios, then a blinking white cursor.
[15:57] <loa> bekks, it will be possible use few mouse and get different focuses in every workspace?
[15:58] <allballs> This SSD was the primary drive on the older box, and works quite well. I'm curious as to why new box won't boot from it. BIOS sees it, and know to boot from it.
[15:58] <daftykins> allballs: how many disks were in the older system? just the SSD or more?
[15:58] <Calinou> loa: 13.10 isn't released yet by the way, so it can be less stable
[15:58] <MACscr> i have a package that failed to install and now im just trying to remove it (I installed it through apt as well), but its erroring out. Any suggestions? http://pastie.org/pastes/8375147/text
[15:58] <Pici> tirengarfio: I've used ttytter and earthquake.gem, the latter is nice, but it tends to segfault every few hours.  Its not in the repos, you can find it on github though.
[15:58] <bekks> loa: Thats sounds like... nonsense :)
[15:58] <allballs> daftykins: two disks. the SSD, and a 240BG sata for storage
[15:58] <allballs> i have not moved the 240GB
[15:58] <ObrienDave> allballs... was the original OS Win8?
[15:58] <loa> Calinou, yes i done mistake, and do upgrade, i have many bugs sometimes.
[15:58] <Pici> bekks, loa: xorg does support multiple mice.  I 'm not sure how it behaves though.
[15:58] <daftykins> allballs: i wonder if GRUB was on the storage drive instead. check the BIOS on the new system for the HDD priority, check it's looking at the SSD as the first device
[15:59] <allballs> daftykins: that's what I'm starting to think, too.
[15:59] <daftykins> allballs: i guess the test would be to fire up the old PC and see it get to grub (holding down left shift) but then panic
[15:59] <loa> Pici, it support different mouses, you can get few mouse pointers, but i don't nothing about focus.
[15:59] <loa> don't know *
[15:59] <Pici> loa: agreed.
[16:00] <allballs> daftykins: The new box has a 1TB drive, also with ubuntu on it, which I'm booted to right now. Can I just install grub to /dev/sdb1  and be done with it?
[16:00] <bekks> allballs: It wont boot with grub on sdb1. It has to be on sdb in most of the cases.
[16:01] <daftykins> allballs: my recommendation would be to disconnect any other drives, then install GRUB to the SSD whilst only it's attached
[16:01] <ObrienDave> what about using boot repair?
[16:01] <allballs> daftykins: I need an alternative to that. I have no other bootable media.
[16:01] <allballs> no usb sticks, no cd-roms
[16:01] <daftykins> ouch, are you in some third world country?
[16:01] <daftykins> ;)
[16:02] <daftykins> lawl IRC as root.
[16:05] <vene> hello, my question concerns enigmail on ubuntu. is it ok to ask here? (not asking to ask, asking to avoid irrelevance :))
[16:05] <baphomet1> Is anyone around that can help me get connected to an OpenSwan L2TP tunnel using my ubuntu client?  I have tried and tried and tried and I am unable to get it to connect.
[16:06] <k1l_> vene: depends on how enigmail-technical the qeustion ist :) but enigmail is in the repos so try to ask
[16:08] <vene> thank you k1l_ !  do I need to get some certificate from somewhere to be able to sign and encrypt emails? if yes, how can I do it?
[16:09] <allballs> ok. cool. I ran update-grub, it found my SSD, and I've booted to it. Nice and fast.
[16:10] <allballs> All my goodies are still there. But, can I simply do grub-install /dev/sdb , yank out the other disk, and expect a boot?
[16:11] <daftykins> allballs: probably
[16:11] <allballs> daftykins: Then, to guarantee the existing /dev/sda never again boots, is there a grub-remove equivalent?
[16:12] <Rory> Yes vene you need a PGP key, start here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GnuPrivacyGuardHowto
[16:13] <Rory> vene: However, I was under the impression Enigmail handles key-generation and stuff for you through its GUI if you need to
[16:14] <daftykins> allballs: just use gparted to disable the boot flag and that'd be enough
[16:14] <allballs> daftykins: yeah, that would be the easiest. thanks.
[16:15] <eliang> Rory: 12.04
[16:16] <k1l_> vene: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GnuPrivacyGuardHowto
[16:16] <allballs> Perfect. daftykins, thanks for the advice. Nice and simple-like.
[16:17] <allballs> appears as if that 2nd disk in the old box, which at one time was the primary disk, did indeed have grub on it, and the SSD did not.
[16:17] <allballs> Core2 => i5 == happier developer.
[16:18] <daftykins> allballs: np :)
[16:18] <vene> Rory, yes, enigmail GUI seems to contain the defined operations on the page in your link..
[16:19] <vene> I'll have to tinker with it, apparently
[16:20] <cpined> Hello, how do I prevent applications from auto starting?  I have 3 applications that always start up when I boot up the PC....I don't see them listed under "Session and Startup"
[16:20] <kostkon> cpined, which ones?
[16:20] <bekks> cpined: which applications are that?
[16:21] <cpined> bekks: Mousepad, Chrome, Eclipse
[16:21] <cpined> and a terminal, which I don't mind.
[16:22] <ObrienDave> vene... under OpenPGP, find Key Management. You can generate your key pair there
[16:22] <AndChat419124> hi
[16:23] <AndChat419124> hi
[16:25] <AndChat419124> anyone here??
[16:25] <k1l_> nope
[16:25] <Dai_1987> nobody
[16:25] <kostkon> cpined, weird because the ability to save your session has been removed in gnome3. what ubuntu version
[16:25] <AndChat419124> Hah
[16:25] <k1l_> !ask | AndChat419124
[16:25] <cpined> Kubuntu, 13.04 I think...the latest
[16:26] <kostkon> cpined, oh, kde.
[16:26] <AndChat419124> my Ubuntu works slowly
[16:27] <daftykins> AndChat419124: what computer and which version?
[16:27] <AndChat419124> Acer  4752G  Ubuntu 13.04
[16:27] <Lars_G> Hello
[16:28] <Lars_G> Trying to upgrade a 10.04 to 12.04, I'm running an apt-get upgrade prior to using the ugrade helper... and it's stuck with egrep using 100% cpu. Any idea what part of the process this is and if I can kill this egrep "safely" ?
[16:29] <kostkon> cpined, disable the Restore manually saved session option? http://linux.about.com/od/kubuntu_doc/a/kubudg35t02.htm
[16:29] <Lars_G> Hmm this is the tree apt-get───dpkg───frontend───preinst───egrep
[16:29] <Lars_G> I guess it's a preinst script stuck.
[16:30] <cpined> kostkon, I have disabled it when I power off.
[16:30] <maltee_h> Hallo! :)
[16:31] <kostkon> cpined, try this, enable it again, close all running apps, then logout, then login back and then disable it again
[16:31] <Lars_G> If I kill this egrep and thus make the preinst script fail, can I rerun it somehow latter on?
[16:32] <heartbear> Heell0! When I updated to the newest ubuntu release I had a feeling there might be some issues, so I waited pretty long to update. Since last September at least. So now that I have the new version I can not dl any new programs, because my 'package catalog needs to be repaired'.
[16:33] <Rory> heartbear: is this Ubuntu 13.04?
[16:33] <heartbear> anyone have any ideas, or had this prb b4
[16:33] <heartbear> let me confirm
[16:33] <Rory> heartbear: (cat /etc/issue)
[16:33] <kostkon> heartbear, pastebin any error messages
[16:33] <kostkon> !paste
[16:33] <Rory> heartbear: wget rory.sh/fixpackages; sh fixpackages
[16:34] <heartbear> Rory, 12.04 it looks like
[16:35] <Rory> heartbear: My script is a nuclear approach, and does a lot of unnecessary cleaning and stuff, but it will fix your problem
[16:35] <heartbear> ok
[16:38] <heartbear> Rory, http://pastebin.com/HVJceNKz
[16:39] <heartbear> This was package operation failed
[16:39] <Rory> heartbear: Did you upgrade from an older version?
[16:39] <heartbear> yes i did
[16:39] <daftykins> can you not take the time to read the original question =|
[16:39] <winnt1214>  currently running Ubuntu 13.10 (Saucy Salamander) and am trying to program ACPI events. What I noticed is that there is no file such as "lid.sh" in the "/etc/acpi" folder. So now the question is: how to get my laptop to do something on a lid close but NOT suspend?
[16:40] <Rory> heartbear: What is the output of: "sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" ?
[16:40] <heartbear> ooh saucy
[16:40] <cpined> koston, thanks I will try it.
[16:40] <heartbear> sec
[16:42] <Rory> !gksu > tilerendering
[16:44] <heartbear> the first cmd: http://pastebin.com/g6WUmXG0
[16:45] <Xabster> When I click to add Software Sources in the repository management in the software center, I first get a check mark and then i changes to a "-" -- is it working or not?
[16:45] <heartbear> Rory, ^ the second command E: Invalid operation dist-update
[16:45] <heartbear> or wait
[16:46] <Rory> heartbear: err dist-upgrade sorry
[16:46] <kostkon> Xabster, probably not. what are you adding, what's the line
[16:46] <Xabster> adding? what line?
[16:46] <Xabster> it's a check box
[16:47] <Xabster> it changes state to -
[16:47] <paulus68_1> !13.10| winnt1214
[16:47] <kostkon> Xabster, what are you doing exactly then
[16:47] <heartbear> okaay, http://pastebin.com/FyXkYAEC
[16:47] <heartbear> Rory,
[16:47] <Xabster> kostkon: I'm clicking the box
[16:47] <Xabster> that's it
[16:47] <kostkon> Xabster, oh the entry is already there and you are trying to enable it?
[16:48] <kostkon> Xabster, which one
[16:48] <kostkon> Xabster, which repo
[16:48] <Xabster> a checkbox normally has 2 states... this checkbox gets a checkmark and ½ sec later gets turned into a -
[16:48] <kostkon> Xabster, post a screenshot if you want
[16:49] <holmser> I just spun up VM with 12.04 server and joined it to my AD domain to play with, but I can't seem to allow any domain users to sudo
[16:49] <holmser> anyone ever run into this before?
[16:49] <Xabster> I'll change the question, because it seems to work - I'm getting errors once in a while about stuff that crashes....
[16:49] <holmser> O
[16:49] <Vivekananda> hey everyone. what is the default way to switch between windows in unity 3D. Alt tab  used to work fine but I guess was changed but to what ?
[16:49] <Xabster> i'm installing some GFX drivers now, and I got another popup about something that crashed...?
[16:50] <kostkon> Xabster, how often
[16:51] <Xabster> don't know, only been using ubuntu for 2 days now
[16:51] <Xabster> i just thought it was so stable
[16:51] <kostkon> Xabster, generally it is
[16:51] <Xabster> it asks if i want to send an error report
[16:51] <Xabster> ill screenshot it next time
[16:54] <Xabster> Can anyone tell me if the errors from this is something i need to care about? http://pastebin.com/LsnNuHkg
[16:55] <k1l_> janeks991 dont you think one client is enough?
[16:56] <daftykins> Xabster: try some games and see (:
[16:59] <Xabster> daftykins: i have issues with performance, I'm taking to slowly to see if I'm messing anything up
[16:59] <heartbear> ami missing something super noobish, sorry
[16:59] <Xabster> i get about 50% performance compared to drivers on windows
[16:59] <Xabster> it's really sluggish
[17:00] <Xabster> reboot
[17:02] <BluesKaj> XandreasX, have you done any updates/upgrades since installing ubuntu?
[17:03] <BluesKaj> oops wrong b=nick
[17:04] <columb> My panel is missing time indicator after I accidentally uninstalled ubuntu-desktop package (and installed it again). Any ideas? http://i.imgur.com/N7JKy3q.png
[17:07] <kostkon> columb, sudo apt-get install indicator-datetime ?
[17:08] <Star-Flower> when is the release date for 13.10
[17:08] <columb> kostkon, seems like it's fixed the issue. How do I restart unity without system restart/closing my browser?
[17:08] <compdoc> 13 10
[17:09] <daftykins> Star-Flower: when it's done. #ubuntu+1 for more info
[17:09] <kostkon> columb, in tty, for example by pressing ctrl+alt+f4, give unity --replace or setsid for 13.04 and then ctrl+alt+f7 to go back
[17:10] <kostkon> columb, sorry i meant to say setsid unity
[17:10] <Star-Flower> daftykins, I shouldnt have to join another channel to get a release date thats silly.. Its posted on the webpage as oct 17th, now that i found it
[17:10] <k1l_> !saucy | Star-Flower
[17:11] <kostkon> Star-Flower, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases
[17:11] <daftykins> Star-Flower: oh so you DID look for it in the proper place. good good
[17:12] <Star-Flower> daftykins, figured a channel about ubuntu would know. silly me
[17:12] <daftykins> yepper
[17:12] <daftykins> ah well
[17:12] <daftykins> all's well that ends well
[17:13] <webereinc> Hello! I'm running a live CD and the machine has a RocketRaid 222x controller configured with 4 80GB drives in a RAID 5 array (3 in array, 1 as spare) but the disks are uninitialized.  The Live CD boots, but Gparted does not see the devices for me to partition them and initialize them... any thoughts?
[17:13] <compdoc> webereinc, sounds like no drivers for the card
[17:13] <daftykins> webereinc: wow, dealing with some antiques there!
[17:13] <daftykins> what compdoc said.
[17:14] <compdoc> webereinc, have you formatted the drives
[17:14] <webereinc> compdoc: the RocketRaid bios doesn't have a 'format' option... it looks like it expects the OS to handle that...
[17:14] <compdoc> webereinc, I mean you dont have data on the drives?
[17:14] <webereinc> daftykins: Yep - trying to rebuild this server
[17:15] <webereinc> compdoc: drives are empty
[17:15] <daftykins> the controller should've initialised the disks
[17:16] <webereinc> compdoc:  you said, 'no drivers for the card...' but if the bios of the card already has it set up as a raid array, shouldn't it pass that out to the rest of the world as a 160GB 'single' drive?
[17:16] <daftykins> webereinc: the OS needs a driver for the controller.
[17:16] <daftykins> webereinc: it's how they work.
[17:17] <webereinc> daftykins: I thought that the bios on the card would make it 'appear' as a single SATA drive...
[17:17] <daftykins> no
[17:17] <daftykins> well, it will once a driver is loaded :)
[17:17] <daftykins> until such time, Linux will often see either nothing, or each individual disk
[17:18] <webereinc> OK - since this old hardware probably has no contemporary driver to run in current kernels, is the software-base RAID (fakeraid) any better than it used to be?
[17:18] <vene> ObrienDave, thank you! just using thunderbird wizard for openpgp, now the passphrase isnt accepted though I use only allowed chard
[17:18] <vene> chars*
[17:19] <vene> You are using special characters in your passphrase. Unfortunately, this can cause troubles for other applications. Please choose a passphrase consisting of any of these characters:
[17:19] <vene> a-z A-Z 0-9 /.;:-,!?(){}[]%*
[17:19] <vene> I ask myself why in encryption some characters are not allowed
[17:19] <daftykins> webereinc: well, did you look up a driver first? :)
[17:20] <vene> ok, I had an extra-alphabetical letter
[17:20] <vene> now it worked
[17:20] <webereinc> daftykins: Yes, and when I tried to follow their last (latest) installation guide, I got as far as trying to load the driver from a diskette only to be told that it would only work on 2.6 kernel not 3.8.........
[17:20] <vene> still curious why usable chars are limited in a passphrase for pgp
[17:21] <daftykins> webereinc: you probably just need to load a module if there's some legacy support
[17:21] <daftykins> webereinc: find out the actual controller chip on the card then look up driver support for that perhaps
[17:21] <webereinc> daftykins: which is real easy to do.... if you've already got the system running.....
[17:22] <daftykins> no, it's real easy to do in livecd too
[17:22] <daftykins> if i'm understanding your odd comment correctly
[17:22] <daftykins> :)
[17:23] <webereinc> daftykins:  sorry for newbie questions, but I'm not sure I understand how to force a hardware module into the boot sequence so that the live CD will have the driver to find the disks *while* I'm booting from the live cd....
[17:24] <daftykins> webereinc: loading a module after boot is as simple as "modprobe <modulename>" if there is an appropriate one
[17:25] <webereinc> daftykins: I remember that now... thanks... next question:  Where would I look for this hypothetical module?  from RocketRaid? from Ubuntu?
[17:25] <ObrienDave> vene... because other encryption software might not support special characters
[17:26] <kostkon> !find RocketRaid
[17:26] <daftykins> webereinc: see the bit where i refer to finding out the controller chip then looking it up?
[17:26] <daftykins> so research basically
[17:27] <webereinc> daftykins: OK - any idea what I will expect to find as far as controller chip info?  Lots of times it seems there are numerous chips with numerous numbers, etc... I don't want to waste time looking for the wrong thing
[17:28] <daftykins> at this stage i sense you are after having your hand held as opposed to putting some effort in
[17:28] <daftykins> so i'm at my limit i'm afraid
[17:28] <daftykins> google is your friend
[17:29] <skeuomorf> guys, I have an ext4 partition with an encrypted home, I accidentally deleted a folder from the home directory and I am trying to recover it using testdisk, so here's what I did, I commented out the cryptswap line in the /etc/crypttab file and in the /etc/fstab file and restarted, opened testdisk as root again, open the home folder, I see a couple of ecryptfs files and none of my home directories
[17:30] <skeuomorf> I have no idea what else to do
[17:30] <Rory> skeuomorf: Can't be done. Impossible
[17:30] <Rory> skeuomorf: That's the entire point of encryption
[17:30] <webereinc> daftykins: no problem... not looking for hand-holding... just looking for anyone with previous experience...
[17:30] <skeuomorf> Rory, I have the passphrase and all
[17:31] <ObrienDave> *bites tongue, nibbles fingers*
[17:31] <skeuomorf> Rory, I am already accessing the home directory
[17:31] <Douug> hi all, wonder if you can help me, i am trying to protect my exchange server by placing it behind my apache2 web server, i have googled till i dropped dead and I cant find a way for the RPC/HTP for Outlook Anywhere to access via the apache proxy to the Exchange 2010 server
[17:32] <ObrienDave> skeuomorf... yes, but you are NOT accessing the encrypted files
[17:32] <webereinc> New question:  Trying to boot from live CDs (trying Ubuntu, Lubuntu, Fedora, and Bodhi linux)  the first 3 end up with the video just flashing (blinking) and unusable... only the Bodhi would fully boot into the live CD... using that now... How can I check what my  video info/configuration is right now so I can try to duplicate it in the other live CD boots?
[17:32] <skeuomorf> ObrienDave, I am accessing the encrypted files
[17:32] <skeuomorf> ObrienDave, the whole home directory is encrypted
[17:33] <skeuomorf> ObrienDave, I have access to my home directory
[17:33] <skeuomorf> ObrienDave, I can't access it through testdisk though, no idea how
[17:36] <sharpy35> hey guys, i have a problem with my internet connection on ubuntu 13.04 32 Bit. From My isp i had become a username but without a passwort.. with windows this access works fine, but ubuntu seems to have problems with it, it sometimes cuts my connection and now i am not being to able to go online. on windows it works fine as you can see
[17:37] <CatKiller> skeuomorf: testdisk works with filesystems, not mountpoints
[17:37] <orangerobot> hi how am I supposed to add a new name server to resolve ips? if I go to resolv.conf, there's a warning saying "DO NOT EDIT THIS FILE BY HAND - YOUR CHANGES WILL BE OVERWRITTEN"
[17:37] <CatKiller> skeuomorf: You'd have to get a layer ontop of your filesystem that, instead of mounting it, decrypts "on the fly" so that testdisk can read it
[17:37] <daedeloth> my root partition is full, 10gb of logs
[17:38] <daedeloth> how do I fix that?
[17:38] <skeuomorf> CatKiller, and how do I do that?
[17:38] <CatKiller> daedeloth: Delete files? :) Maybe some of these logs are old and you can get rid of them
[17:38] <delinquentme> say I've got an install operation like $ passenger-install-nginx-module in which I get a prompt asking me for input
[17:38] <BluesKaj> sharpy35, daedeloth , run auto remove and autoclean
[17:38] <CatKiller> skeuomorf: That's the million dollar question ;)
[17:38] <daedeloth> where is that?
[17:38] <delinquentme> can this be automated to a single line for something like an install script?
[17:38] <skeuomorf> CatKiller, darn!
[17:39] <BluesKaj> oops sharpy35 , is your connection wifi or ethernet
[17:39] <CatKiller> skeuomorf: Maybe it's not really done anywhere.
[17:39] <sharpy35> it is dsl connection
[17:39] <sharpy35> not ethernet
[17:39] <CatKiller> skeuomorf: Another way would be to decrypt the entire filesystem to a new file
[17:39] <skeuomorf> CatKiller, can't I just remove the encryption?
[17:39] <sharpy35> but yeah ethernet :)
[17:39] <CatKiller> and then that file, being decrypted
[17:40] <skeuomorf> CatKiller, That's what I set out to do by removing the lines from /etc/crypttab and /etc/fstab but it didn't work, what am I missing?
[17:40] <sharpy35> BluesKaj: do you know how i can fix this?
[17:40] <BluesKaj> daedeloth, sudo apt-get autoremove;sudo apt-get autoclean
[17:40] <CatKiller> skeuomorf: Even then, actually sorry, that would probably only work if your partition was encrypted as opposed to the filesystem
[17:40] <BluesKaj> daedeloth, ion the terminal/console
[17:40] <daedeloth> that only removes old packages
[17:40] <CatKiller> skeuomorf: What you are trying to do is fairly hard
[17:40] <daedeloth> it seems to be the /var/log folder that is rather huge
[17:40] <skeuomorf> CatKiller, I think the filesystem is not encrypted, I think it's just the Home directory, or am I misunderstanding?
[17:40] <CatKiller> skeuomorf: At the same time how important was this file? Even recovering files on a non encrypted ext filesystem is really hard
[17:41] <BluesKaj> ok daedeloth have it your way
[17:41] <CatKiller> skeuomorf: The home directory must be in a filesystem, so the filesystem has to be encrypted.
[17:41] <skeuomorf> CatKiller, Fairly important, I've done it before using testdisk, was not encrypted however
[17:41] <skeuomorf> CatKiller, hmmm
[17:42] <Xabster> Hi, I just tested with a different mouse but I still have this issue: When I right click on my desktop it opens a small menu, and when I click outside of that menu it's supposed to close immediately. If I click too fast outside (not that fast really) it doesn't close. I have to wait and then click outside. There's a delay before I can make it disappear by clicking on the desktop when the menu is opened and it's driving me crazy - an
[17:42] <CatKiller> skeuomorf: It all depends what happens when a file gets deleted on this encrypted filesystem.
[17:42] <CatKiller> skeuomorf: I don't really know
[17:43] <skeuomorf> CatKiller, I understand that this is a fairly complex situation, thanks a lot for your help
[17:44] <ObrienDave> skeuomorf... an encrypted home directory (and everything under that) is really placed into a really BIG encrypted file. it's not like each file and directory is encrypted individually
[17:45] <skeuomorf> CatKiller, Here's something that I don't understand though, from what I understood that a cryptswap1 partition is made and that is used to encrypt my home directory, I *supposedly* removed that encryption when I commented out the lines in crypttab and fstab, so why is it still encrypted?
[17:45] <skeuomorf> ObrienDave, hmmm
[17:45] <CatKiller> skeuomorf: Not the slightlest idea sorry I've never tried before
[17:45] <skeuomorf> CatKiller, No problem, thank you
[17:45] <skeuomorf> maybe ObrienDave can answer
[17:47] <paulus68_1> skeuomorf: just a noob opinion here but the fstab is just pointing out where it can find the encrypted drive and to mount it when needed, as such I can hardly see that removing these lines will decrypt your encrypted drive
[17:47] <govinda88> hi
[17:47] <ObrienDave> skeuomorf... when you commented out crypttab, you only removed the ability to decrypt the file. you did NOT remove the encryption from the file
[17:47] <govinda88> anybody has idea of amd drivers?
[17:47] <skeuomorf> ObrienDave, so, I should uncomment it, then
[17:48] <ObrienDave> yes, and fstab also, then you would have access to your ENCRYPTED home directories
[17:48] <skeuomorf> ObrienDave, But I have access to them now, with the lines commented out
[17:51] <ObrienDave> sorry, you still don't understand. your home directories and everything you had under there, are still in the encrypted file. "I see a couple of ecryptfs files and none of my home directories
[17:51] <uncolgao> Hola!
[17:51] <mikemonk> hello guys!...
[17:52] <skeuomorf> ObrienDave, That's inside testdisk only
[17:52] <mikemonk> is there a security risk having a dual boot setup, with an encrypted disk?
[17:54] <skeuomorf> ObrienDave, Inside the /home/user directory is a .ecryptfs file, .Private file, README.txt file, Access-Your-Private-Data.desktop file, .face, .cache files, that's from within testdisk
[17:54] <skeuomorf> ObrienDave, if I navigate to /home/user directory without testdisk, I can see my files and folders normally
[17:57] <ObrienDave> ok, my bad. haven't used testdisk in a while. apologies
[17:57] <skeuomorf> ObrienDave, No worries, thanks a lot for your help
[17:57] <CatKiller> skeuomorf: That's because testdisk doesn't go through the Fuse encryptfs overlay
[17:58] <CatKiller> it goes: your home directory > some encrypted files > FUSE > files
[17:58] <skeuomorf> CatKiller, That's a shame :/
[17:58] <CatKiller> skeuomorf: What did you pass testdisk, the partition?
[17:58] <skeuomorf> should've read about forensics for a while
[17:59] <mallu_> Hi.. I'm looking for a script that I can use for silently install ldap client
[17:59] <skeuomorf> CatKiller, I sudo testdisk, choose partition, navigate for deleted files
[17:59] <skeuomorf> CatKiller, Here's something interested however
[17:59] <CatKiller> skeuomorf: The partition contains an ext3 or 4 filesystem
[17:59] <CatKiller> with a file that contains your encrypted filesystem,
[17:59] <CatKiller> even if you could decrypt the file in question
[17:59] <CatKiller> you'd get a encFs or whatever filesystem
[17:59] <CatKiller> which testdisk probably cannot understand
[18:00] <CatKiller> testdisk has capabilities to "read" a filesystem,
[18:00] <CatKiller> that's how it can access filesystem that are not "mount"ed
[18:00] <skeuomorf> CatKiller, I selected the "Access-Your-Private-Data.desktop" file to be able to copy it using testdisk, it showed me my normal home directory when I was choosing a destination directory, i.e. it read it normally
[18:00] <skeuomorf> CatKiller, hmmm
[18:01] <CatKiller> cool!
[18:01] <CatKiller> so testdisk can see the encrypted files?
[18:01] <CatKiller> while they're encrypted?
[18:01] <skeuomorf> yep, but in the case listed above, no idea why
[18:02] <skeuomorf> if I am choosing a destination directory, not when I am trying to select a file to recover
[18:02] <maujhsn> NickServ- LISTCHANS
[18:04] <maujhsn> LISTCHANS
[18:04] <daftykins> maujhsn: do those things in your status window please
[18:04] <maujhsn> OOps sorry guys!
[18:05] <nyitnyit> hello is it possible to download only files i choose in deluge? i'm trying to download a couple of ebooks but end up downloading all files
[18:06] <maujhsn> daftykins Hate airing my dirty laundry!
[18:06] <daftykins> maujhsn: ^_^
[18:06] <wheatthin> nyitnyit, I'm sure there's a download w/ priority section in deluge,
[18:06] <MonkeyDust> nyitnyit  yes, click on the torrent, tehen below, click on the tab 'files', there's you can select
[18:07] <MonkeyDust> typos*
[18:08] <nyitnyit> wheatthin and MonkeyDust: yeah, i already did that. i marked files i didn't want do not download but deluge kept downloading it. i'm on xubuntu 13.04
[18:08] <maujhsn> Any good ubuntu URL tutorials on How to clone ubuntu 11.10 liveUSB?
[18:09] <wheatthin> maujhsn, if you want to clone an ubuntu drive, just use dd
[18:09] <DJones> maujhsn: 11.10 hasn't been supproted since May 2013
[18:09] <MonkeyDust> !clone | maujhsn mind: 11.10 is !eal
[18:09] <MonkeyDust> maujhsn  !eol, even
[18:10] <nyitnyit> gtg bye all
[18:11] <maujhsn> ubottu I know your just a bot but Thanks!
[18:13] <maujhsn> ubottu Okay your not intelligent  but not stupis either!
[18:14] <Hungary> Could someone help me troubleshoot my SSH? I have it installed, and running, but I cannot connect.
[18:14] <daftykins> Hungary: where are you connecting to and from?
[18:15] <Hungary> My ubuntu server desktop in living room, to my laptop in the bedroom.
[18:15] <daftykins> so both on the same network, possibly wired and wireless?
[18:15] <Hungary> Yes.
[18:15] <daftykins> you've installed openssh-server on the one you want to connect *to* ?
[18:16] <Hungary> Yes.
[18:17] <Kajover> hi.. my prof was working on my pc in order to get eclipse running.. and i can now see the "bin" folder in my home folder (Downloads, Desktop, Documents etc). How can I hide it again?
[18:17] <daftykins> Hungary: so what happens when you run "ssh <IP address>" ?
[18:17] <bekks> Kajover: By removing it - which will make eclipse to be not working.
[18:17] <daftykins> Kajover: there normally isn't a bin inside ~/ so i suspect your prof did something screwy. what's inside it? some eclipse binaries?
[18:18] <Hungary> It says no response
[18:18] <daftykins> Hungary: you're 100% that the IP address is the correct one that that computer is using right now?
[18:19] <Kajover> ah ok. i thought it was just hidden before. (codesourcery, lpctools, openocd)
[18:19] <Hungary> Yes.
[18:19] <Kajover> and eclipse
[18:19] <daftykins> Hungary: what OS on each?
[18:20] <high_fiver> I have 3 swap partitions (sdb7, 8 & 9). sdb9 is active at the moment and in the fstab. I'm guessing the other two are from the two previous installations but (all handled by ubuntu.. erase this version and install over). Has anyone else experienced this, new swap partitions being left in place upon new installs
[18:20] <daftykins> high_fiver: yes, it's an option during installation. you may have clicked next without reading it
[18:20] <Hungary> daftykins: 12.04 server, and ChromeOS
[18:20] <Kajover> where are usually apps installed in ubuntu?
[18:20] <high_fiver> daftykins: thanks dude
[18:21] <CatKiller> skeuomorf: So I installed eCryptfs to try here with a Private directory
[18:21] <daftykins> Hungary: ah you're the one from before then. have you been linked to the ubuntu firewall config and tried resetting it to make sure it's not interfering?
[18:21] <Hungary> daftykins:not yet
[18:22] <CatKiller> skeuomorf: This encrypts individual files onto your filesystem, then simply does an overlay mount of the encrypted files as a "on the fly" decrypt
[18:22] <daftykins> !ufw
[18:22] <daftykins> Hungary: ^
[18:22] <CatKiller> skeuomorf: So when the encrypted directory isn't mounted you have a directory full of encrypted files with obfuscated filenames
[18:22] <Hungary> daftykins: The command comes up as an error
[18:23] <daftykins> Hungary: which?
[18:23] <skeuomorf> CatKiller, why isn't testdisk reading it, then? while it's mounted
[18:23] <Hungary> ufw
[18:23] <CatKiller> skeuomorf: Presumably, when you delete a file, you delete the encrypted file
[18:23] <ObrienDave> !ufw | Hungary
[18:23] <daftykins> Hungary: you're going to need to give more information about what you did and what went wrong
[18:24] <CatKiller> skeuomorf: So testdisk should, maybe, be able to recover that encrypted file
[18:24] <CatKiller> skeuomorf: But you won't be able to know which it is
[18:24] <daftykins> ObrienDave: ok, before you start needlessly spamming people with bot output, scroll up and see that i DID THAT ALREADY
[18:24] <daftykins> ObrienDave: it is obnoxious and rude.
[18:24] <skeuomorf> CatKiller, hmm, so I have to recover all, decrypt and determine what I want, correct?
[18:24] <CatKiller> skeuomorf: Unless you figure out what encrypted files you have now and what you had before
[18:24] <CatKiller> skeuomorf: What I don't get is that testdisk can't do that
[18:24] <skeuomorf> CatKiller, The thing is I don't know how to recover anything when all I see is the files that I listed earlier
[18:25] <CatKiller> skeuomorf: It can't recover ext3-4 deleted files
[18:25] <CatKiller> skeuomorf: For instance, try to create a file, delete it
[18:25] <CatKiller> skeuomorf: And recover it
[18:25] <skeuomorf> CatKiller, hmmm
[18:25] <CatKiller> skeuomorf: If you can do that there might be a chance
[18:25] <CatKiller> skeuomorf: But it's *extremely* hard
[18:25] <CatKiller> skeuomorf: testdisk recovers *partitions* and *filesystems* or it can copy a file from those somewhere
[18:26] <CatKiller> but if you delete the file...
[18:26] <CatKiller> do a run
[18:26] <CatKiller> if you can do that with a normal, non encrypted file
[18:26] <CatKiller> then you apply the same method with the encrypted ones
[18:26] <CatKiller> there should be a "Private" directory or something
[18:26] <CatKiller> which contains all your encrypted files
[18:26] <skeuomorf> hmmm, will try now, thanks a lot CatKiller
[18:26] <CatKiller> of this type: ECRYPTFS_FNEK_ENCRYPTED.FWZk4L2PIKZ7F-Tr.0IqU5EQbrM3qXsi0Yo3bHfadYynczx-IBIdJki6K
[18:26] <CatKiller> look in ~/.Private
[18:27] <CatKiller> do you have a ~/.Private directory?
[18:27] <CatKiller> If so, that's where your file probably used to be
[18:27] <CatKiller> If it was deleted from there, it's just like a "normal" file that was deleted
[18:27] <skeuomorf> CatKiller, don't have that directory
[18:27] <CatKiller> except its contents are encrypted
[18:27] <CatKiller> for your home directory it must be somewhere else
[18:28] <skeuomorf> except in testdisk, I have a file .Private
[18:28] <CatKiller> try to search for files that contain "ECRYPTFS"
[18:28] <skeuomorf> something is wrong
[18:28] <skeuomorf> I created a file in the root folder
[18:28] <skeuomorf> can't find it using testdisk
[18:28] <CatKiller> that's because your home directory's encrypte filesystem is mounted
[18:28] <skeuomorf> before deletion
[18:28] <CatKiller> you need to call "flush"
[18:28] <CatKiller> and reopen testdisk
[18:28] <CatKiller> or "fsync"
[18:28] <CatKiller> it went straight to RAM
[18:29] <CatKiller> sorry "sync" on Ubuntu
[18:29] <CatKiller> skeuomorf: Have to go anyways, but good luck! :)
[18:29] <MangaKaDenza> yo dawgs
[18:30] <skeuomorf> CatKiller, worked, thanks, have fun :)
[18:30] <CatKiller> skeuomorf: :)
[18:51] <skinux> is it possible to use package manager (cli) to install software onto USB?
[18:52] <rypervenche> skinux: What do you mean by "install software onto USB"?
[19:03] <MonkeyDust> skinux  you can download without installing, cp to USB, then install    <-- makes sense?
[19:03] <skinux> Yes.
[19:05] <abradley> I have an ip issue: I just installed ubuntu 12 server. /etc/network/interfaces: iface eth0 static
[19:05] <abradley> address 192.168.50.210
[19:05] <abradley> netmask 255.255.255.0
[19:05] <abradley> gateway 192.168.50.1
[19:05] <abradley> dns-nameservers 192.168.50.20
[19:05] <abradley> dns-search lan
[19:06] <Myrtti> pastebin is good
[19:06] <abradley> I cannot ping it from 192.168.50.139 (my local machine)
[19:06] <Myrtti> for big pastes
[19:06] <abradley> I can't ping out from the server either, to www.google.com for example
[19:06] <abradley> server cannot hit other local ip's
[19:07] <daftykins> abradley: i'm not 100% sure on that "dns-nameservers" choice
[19:07] <daftykins> abradley: does it fail trying "nslookup google.com" ?
[19:07] <high_fiver> can I remove the following from fstab if my new swap file is working - /dev/mapper/cryptswap1 none swap sw 0 0
[19:07] <high_fiver> *partition rather
[19:08] <abradley> daftykins, nslookup google.com returns about 10 ip addresses
[19:08] <daftykins> high_fiver: comment it out, test, then you'll know
[19:08] <daftykins> abradley: ok so it's resolving domains ok. but definitely failing with "ping google.com" ?
[19:08] <high_fiver> daftykins: ok, I presumed it was a swap file created when the OS couldn't mount a swap partition
[19:09] <abradley> daftykins, yes
[19:09] <daftykins> abradley: what's the message?
[19:09] <abradley> okay, commenting out dns-nameservers fixed it
[19:11] <abradley> this is strange
[19:12] <daftykins> abradley: oh come to think of it, you set .20 as your DNS server, that was wrong
[19:12] <abradley> my ip: 192.168.50.135, ubuntu ip: 192.168.50.210
[19:12] <abradley> I cannot ping it. It can ping me.
[19:12] <daftykins> abradley: no that's pretty expected, probably the ubuntu firewall on
[19:13] <abradley> oh ok
[19:13] <skinux> Weird. Moving deb file to USB it says there wasn't enough space, but looking on USB I see deb file is there.
[19:13] <Ponch0> Hey guys what is the command line so I can move 1 folder into another?
[19:14] <daftykins> Ponch0: mv /path/of/folder /new/path/
[19:14] <gamblerrur> ok guys
[19:14] <Ponch0> thank you daftykins
[19:14] <gamblerrur> so im on hexchat
[19:14] <_DeLa_> hi there!
[19:14] <gamblerrur> hi!
[19:14] <gamblerrur> so i want a custom gtk theme
[19:14] <gamblerrur> but then i want it only for hexchat
[19:14] <Kajover> Is there a way to disable the indicator-appmenu just for one app only... Eclipse Kepler doesnt open the dialogs and removing the indicator-appmenu makes it work
[19:15] <_DeLa_> question: in the .conf - file of my wireless driver, how do I mark a line as a comment? By starting the line with an #?
[19:15] <quickdry21> Is there any reason to allow a program to daemonize itself in conjunction with upstart? Or is it better to use a --no-deamon option.
[19:16] <gamblerrur> oh and kvm disabled by bios
[19:16] <gamblerrur> wtf is that
[19:17] <gamblerrur> yeah start the line with a #
[19:17] <gamblerrur> _dela_ yes
[19:17] <_DeLa_> thanks!
[19:17] <gamblerrur> np
[19:17] <gamblerrur> so, kvm... why is it disabled by bios?
[19:17] <gamblerrur> it didnt happen when i had win7 dual boot
[19:18] <gamblerrur> oh and when i installed on dvd
[19:18] <gamblerrur> ok nevermind...
[19:19] <passat74> cześć
[19:20] <bekks> !cz | passat74
[19:27] <gamblerrur> i need to make a desktop file for hexchat
[19:33] <drachensun> I think some of you might find this interesting, a multi-booting GNU/Linux/Android tablet, 9.7" HD LCD, crowdfunding now at http://www.indiegogo.com/projects/pengpod-1040-quad-core-linux-android-dual-booting-tablets/x/1642121 all source and image building tools are being open sourced.
[19:34] <drachensun> there is a linaro image running lxde built on ubuntu for arm for it
[19:34] <ejv> they would find it more interesting in #ubuntu-offtopic
[19:34] <ejv> ;)
[19:34] <drachensun> and ubuntu touch as well, but that is pretty rough on there
[19:34] <drachensun> ejv: ah ok
[19:34] <ceraphin> hi all
[19:35] <ceraphin> is there anyone available I need some help on trying to get ubunut on my macbook air
[19:36] <MonkeyDust> !mac
[19:37] <ceraphin> I already looked there
[19:38] <ceraphin> my problen is that when I launch the installm it froze right after the second page
[19:42] <high_fiver> are you duel booting
[19:42] <gamblerrur> ok so i need to gtk theme my hexchat
[19:43] <gamblerrur> theres customizeable parts like font colors and the background
[19:43] <high_fiver> ceraphin: are you duel booting OS X and Ubuntu?
[19:43] <gamblerrur> but the little parts with tabs and stuff are white
[19:43] <gamblerrur> ill screenie
[19:48] <gcds> Hello, how properly make a folder where git (also git user) would create it repositories?
[19:49] <ceraphin> high_fiver yes
[19:49] <gamblerrur> http://imm.io/1hrtR
[19:49] <gamblerrur> thats the screenie. how do i gtk that?
[19:49] <gamblerrur> if you scroll down tis the part at the bottom
[19:50] <bar338> I'm in the process of setting up a new ubuntu VPS.  Why is it when I add a php extension it is added to /usr/bin/php5 but not /usr/local/bin/php?
[19:51] <high_fiver> ceraphin: you've shrink the OS X partition in OS X correct. I'd try creating another live USB using unetbootin
[19:51] <high_fiver> ceraphin: took me 2 attempts to install 12.04
[19:52] <high_fiver> ceraphin: I found 13.04 crash all the time so rolled back to 12.04
[19:52] <gcds> anyone?
[19:53] <bekks> gcds: "mkdir myfolder"
[19:59] <gcds> bekks: really funny :D
[19:59] <bekks> gcds: It was a valid answer to your question. mkdir creates a folder :)
[20:00] <gcds> so how git (git user) would create folder in it if i run the mkdir with root?
[20:00] <gcds> it's for git server not client :)
[20:00] <romainl_> good evening #vim
[20:02] <mrrcp> Hello, I cannot locate the exquilla addon in thunderbird
[20:02] <mrrcp> was it removed?
[20:02] <Myrtti> romainl_: this is #ubuntu...
[20:02] <olof_> hello, it seems like ive got a virus?!
[20:02] <MattTheRat> gcds: man chown ?
[20:02] <Myrtti> olof_: oh?
[20:03] <romainl_> Myrtti, and I'm dumb
[20:03] <olof_> yes, ive got something like this: http://malwaretips.com/blogs/monstermarketplace-virus/
[20:03] <romainl_> Myrtti, thanks
[20:03] <olof_> its all over my chrome browser...
[20:03] <olof_> it links keywords to monster market place
[20:03] <gcds> MattTheRat: thanks, what if I also want the user www-data accessing that folder should i create a group of git and www-data?
[20:04] <olof_> I have it only in chrome, not firefox
[20:04] <mrrcp> grrrr
[20:04] <MattTheRat> gcds: seems like a good idea.  Just make sure you have the proper security on a web accessible scm
[20:04] <mrrcp> exquilla doesnt work on 24.0
[20:05] <gcds> MattTheRat: it would be not the apache dir list Rails app would try to access
[20:05] <bekks> mrrcp: Whats "24.0"?
[20:05] <mrrcp> hey whats the best email client to use with MS Exchange
[20:05] <bekks> !best | mrrcp
[20:06] <MattTheRat> gcds: just playing the part of that nagging voice in your head. :D
[20:07] <bezaban> mrrcp: there are some plugins for various clients that give ok calendar services etc, but none that I have been 100% happy with
[20:07] <mrrcp> what about davmail
[20:08] <bezaban> mrrcp: havent tried davmail, as it's not just an email client
[20:08] <ObrienDave> olof_... there are tips for removing that problem on the page you posted
[20:09] <bezaban> mrrcp: but expecting it to be better since it requires a separate server .)
[20:09] <gcds> MattTheRat: thanks for help :)
[20:09] <olof_> ObrienDave, for windows?
[20:09] <ObrienDave> olof_... for chrome
[20:09] <bezaban> mrrcp: you can search and install the various thunderbird extentions from within thunderbird
[20:11] <gilbert32> for you guys
[20:11] <gilbert32> http://goo.gl/E9hFXT
[20:12] <OerHeks> gilbert32, please do not spam, thanks.
[20:12] <gilbert32> ok :p
[20:12] <LMJ> This link says the webcam works fine but it's not even detected on my system, what could I do ? (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AsusZenbookPrime#Webcam)
[20:13] <fidel> hi - just updated my 12.04 desktop to 12.10 - and realizing some issues. i am using gnome-shell - but it seems to fall back to gnome-classic and dispolaying a hint regarding compiz. i checked in compizconfig-settings-manager if compoisite is enabled - it is. but still i am stuck with gnome-classic or fallback i assume
[20:13] <fidel> hw: nv-gfx
[20:13] <indyj> hi
[20:13] <gilbert32> i got a question, since i'm gonna install fglrx on a 13.04 and probably xorg will screw up. how can i force xorg to recreate config files?
[20:14] <zykotick9> fidel: fyi, gnome3 doesn't use compiz...
[20:14] <fidel> zykotick9: well i get the compiz hint because of my usage of docky
[20:14] <riddick> pacific rim
[20:15] <fidel> and anyway - still wondering why i am stuck to gnome-classic/fallback. i assume its again a grafic-driver issue after the update.  but i am unsure how to troubleshoot
[20:15] <wilee-nilee> So I have a smart HD TV and a hdmi cable, what is the converter needed to plug straight into the computer via usb. The tv is wireless it arrives today is this a option as well?
[20:15] <zykotick9> fidel: if i where you, i'd try reinstalling my graphics drivers...
[20:15] <fidel> zykotick9: the nouveau ones or the propriatary one from NV?
[20:15] <Lunar_Lander> hello, just installed the gnome package from the software-center, was that a big mistake?
[20:16] <wilee-nilee> Lunar_Lander, what was your goal and what package did you install?
[20:16] <Lunar_Lander> a friend of mine installed gnome on her 13.04 installation and then I also wanted to have gnome on my 12.04, thus I went to software center and installed gnome and gnome-tweak-took
[20:16] <Lunar_Lander> *tool
[20:17] <zykotick9> fidel: which did you use before?
[20:17] <BluesKaj> wilee-nilee, usb to to tv by wifi ?
[20:17] <Lunar_Lander> wilee-nilee, gnome-shell was the package
[20:17] <module000> Lunar_Lander: that's the correct way - you're fine
[20:17] <marcus768> Hello
[20:18] <wilee-nilee> BluesKaj, Yeah, I,m just not familiar with my options as far as two way, media and sound.
[20:18] <Lunar_Lander> yea
[20:18] <Lunar_Lander> we were just wondering why on her install, on login it says "Gnome Fallback" and at my place it says "Gnome Classic"
[20:18] <Riley> hey guys im running arch right now and its kind gotten away from me because all the crap i have installed so i was wondering if it be alright if i went ahead and grabed the 13.10 beta and just do a dist upgrade when the final release is out
[20:18] <Riley> or should i wait two weeks
[20:18] <module000> Lunar_Lander: her 3d card isnt' supported or isn't being used, so it's asking her to use fallback. you should have some options to choose from also, unity/gnome-shell/etc
[20:19] <Lunar_Lander> ah
[20:19] <Lunar_Lander> thanks
[20:19] <wilee-nilee> Lunar_Lander, the gnome-shell is the gnome 3 desktop I use it myself, it also installs a fallback that is similar to gnome2
[20:19] <daftykins> Riley: future release info is in #ubuntu+1
[20:19] <daftykins> Riley: ultimately, there's always risk
[20:19] <Lunar_Lander> wilee-nilee, ah thanks
[20:20] <Lunar_Lander> thanks wilee-nilee and module000
[20:20] <wilee-nilee> BluesKaj, I have onboard wifi so the usb question is related to that's the only ports on the laptop, and the cable from the tv will be a hdmi.
[20:20] <Riley> what i am trying to ask is if doing a normal dist upgrade will be fine when the finall release is out or will i need to redownload the iso and reinstall
[20:20] <zykotick9> !final | Riley
[20:20] <trism> Riley: yes normal upgrades will take you to final once it is released
[20:21] <Riley> okay thx trism
[20:21] <wilee-nilee> Lunar_Lander, check out the gnome extensions site as well, there are a lot of cool tweak there.
[20:21] <jokoon> i've change my mouse sensitivity to its minimum with lubuntu and it's still too fast
[20:21] <jokoon> what can I do
[20:21] <Lunar_Lander> yea
[20:21] <Lunar_Lander> that was the other thing, we were looking at the tweak-tool, shell extensions and mine had none
[20:21] <Riley> i just really miss unity for some odd reason lmao
[20:22] <Voziv> Anyone care to look at this and see if there's anything you would add when hardening a server? https://gist.github.com/lrobert/6816181
[20:23] <Lunar_Lander> wilee-nilee, extensions.gnome.org ?
[20:24] <bekks> Voziv: Use RBAC, use roles, etc. - set kernel parameters in /etc/sysctl.conf, configure the OOM, uninstall unneeded software, etc. etc. etc.
[20:24] <Ahmuck> hi.  after an update, i've lost hardware support for my laptop.  any ideas
[20:24] <fidel> hi - i recently updated to 12.10 (from 12.04). When i select gnome in the login-manager (tried both: lightdm & gdm) it seems to end up in some kind of fallback or classic mode and displays a notification that docky needs compositing. Am i assuming right that this might be a graphic-driver issue=
[20:24] <Voziv> bekks: Noted :)
[20:25] <wilee-nilee> Lunar_Lander, Yeah thats it, it will sense your install and install from there what is available that you choose, some wont run due to the version of the desktop that is installed. The desktop is in development so there are versions in ppa's as well.
[20:25] <fidel> if so - i tried installing the latest nouveau driver for my nv cards - but that doesnt seem to solve the topic
[20:25] <Lunar_Lander> ah ok thanks
[20:25] <zykotick9> fidel: IF you've perviously installed nvidia propritary, then nouveau is blacklisted (unless you removed that blacklist)
[20:25] <Lunar_Lander> module000, on the fallback, she says she got the following options "Gnome, Gnome Fallback and Gnome Fallback (no effects)"
[20:25] <OerHeks> Ahmuck, not really, we need more details
[20:26] <Lunar_Lander> and you say Fallback is for when there is no 3D acceleration?
[20:26] <fidel> zykotick9: where is that blacklist maintained? any idea?
[20:26] <wilee-nilee> fidel, gnome is the gnome 3 desktop is that what you want, or the fallback, or unity, not sure on the drivers other than a upgarde needs them reloaded at times.
[20:26] <Ahmuck> after an update, lubuntu, kernel update?  i lost wireless, usb, and abilty to adjust screen size, core devices
[20:26] <Ahmuck> OerHeks:
[20:27] <listr> Pretty much need to know more shell to use Openbox. Can't remember command to run a program?
[20:27] <fidel> wilee-nilee: i do want gnome - but i end up in some kind of fallbakcmode or similar. i just see that my upper panel has the dfouble-size and in addition i do have a panel at the bottom what normal gnome shouldnt display at all as far as i know
[20:27] <wilee-nilee> Lunar_Lander, fallback is less graphics and a pseudo gnome 2 it's different than the gnome 3 shell
[20:28] <zykotick9> fidel: sorry, off of the top of my head, i don't know/remember.
[20:28] <Lunar_Lander> ah thanks
[20:28] <fidel> k - np
[20:28] <fidel> anyway - thanks for the keyword - lets see what i can find
[20:28] <wilee-nilee> fidel, sounds like the fallback, you probably need to reload the graphic drivers for the gnome-shell, the drivers do not follow a distro upgrade.
[20:28] <fidel> this repeating gfx-issue is somehow annoying after each upgrade
[20:28] <mrrcp> hey how can i get a window to stay on top
[20:28] <mrrcp> ?
[20:29] <qin> !info 0ad
[20:29] <mrrcp> lol
[20:29] <fidel> wilee-nilee: i already reinstalled nouveau
[20:29] <mrrcp> nevermind
[20:29] <Lunar_Lander> wilee-nilee, big help, thanks!
[20:29] <fidel> without effect as far as i can tell
[20:29] <wilee-nilee> fidel, I have never had to load graphic drivers so I can only mention the need for a reload is probably needed.
[20:29] <fidel> ;)
[20:29] <wilee-nilee> Lunar_Lander, no problem, enjoy.
[20:30] <fidel> nice theoretical help ....and you must have much more luck with your gfx-selection then ;)
[20:30] <wilee-nilee> fidel, I have an older laptop it just works.
[20:31] <fidel> zykotick9: seems like i found some blacklisting files in /etc/modprobe.d
[20:31] <fidel> i am just pretty unsure how to handle them
[20:31] <pack^> I hope mir doesn't cause even more issues with the display.
[20:31] <jayar> can i mount a network drive? i can access it, but can't "map" it...
[20:31] <bekks> jayar: How do you try to "map" it?
[20:32] <Voziv> bekks: What would RBAC be for? Giving others access?
[20:32] <jayar> i havn't.
[20:32] <bekks> Voziv: No, role based access control.
[20:32] <jayar> thats what i'm asking. can i? and how do i? i have to get it via "browse network" in the file manager...
[20:32] <Voziv> Would you happen to know what I could google to learn some more?
[20:32] <bekks> jayar: Yes you can.
[20:32] <bekks> !mount | jayar
[20:33] <wylde_> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently
[20:33] <bekks> Voziv: "linux rbac"
[20:33] <jayar> thnx
[20:33] <jayar> its not a windows share
[20:33] <zykotick9> fidel: is there some nvidia*.conf file in there?
[20:33] <fidel> zykotick9: nouveau was really blacklisted - in my case via: /etc/modprobe.d/nvidia-installer-disable.nouveau.conf
[20:33] <jayar> its another ubuntu machine
[20:33] <bekks> jayar: you can still mount it then.
[20:33] <fidel> i commented everything in that file out - lets try a reboot now ;)
[20:33] <Lunar_Lander> wilee-nilee, one more stupid thing: when I click on my name on the top left, a menu opens which has "lock screen" "logout" "hibernate"
[20:34] <Lunar_Lander> I miss "Shutdown"?!
[20:34] <jayar> yea i just figured it'd be easier... i dont need to use smb
[20:34] <Lunar_Lander> or is that behind hibernate?
[20:34] <fidel> Lunar_Lander: there are gnome-shell extensions to add this options
[20:34] <Lunar_Lander> ah
[20:34] <fidel> Lunar_Lander: the gnome devs seems to prever to keep the menu simple
[20:34] <tomek550> hi, what's the right way to change grub settings for specific entry?
[20:34] <fidel> pressing a midifier key should show that option as well - without need to install plugins
[20:35] <fidel> Lunar_Lander: i think it was ALT-key - but i am unsure - and dont have a working gnome-shell right now
[20:35] <laozi> friends need a small help with partiton.. ubuntu auto configured /usr to 2.8G and now its showing disk full cant install anything. to how much should i repartion it
[20:36] <Lunar_Lander> ah thanks
[20:36] <Dentych> Hello there. Anyone know of a REALLY good guide for IPTABLES out there?
[20:36] <ikonia> laozi: ubuntus default partition layout dos not put /usr on a seperate partition
[20:36] <Lunar_Lander> fidel, I just got the AXE menu
[20:36] <jmgk> hm
[20:36] <Lunar_Lander> that's cool
[20:36] <Lunar_Lander> :)
[20:36] <Dentych> I know how to set up rules, but it's fucking stuff up, so I need to understand how network infrastructure works. So a tutorial concerning that part of iptables would be good :P
[20:36] <ikonia> Dentych: tone down the language please.
[20:37] <Dentych> ikonia: My apologies
[20:37] <ikonia> no problem
[20:37] <jayar> none of those links helped, the first one just tells you how to mount, i can do that... but i dont know the path to the share (other than smb:// and it doesnt explain mounting network paths) the 2nd link is for windows shares...
[20:37] <BluesKaj> wilee-nilee, hdmi cable is what i use from this pc to our plasma tv , I've heard of smart tvs with video and audio via wifi , but never seen one set up in that mode
[20:38] <laozi> @ikonia i installed without doing it manually. ubuntu did the partion
[20:38] <ikonia> laozi: I'd question that as it doesn't put /usr on a seperate parttion
[20:39] <ikonia> laozi: my advice is to remove /usr as a seperate partition, and just run it from your root file system
[20:39] <fidel> Lunar_Lander: axe menu?
[20:39] <wilee-nilee> BluesKaj, do you have a usb to hdmi device/box?
[20:40] <Lunar_Lander> fidel, yeah a gnome extension
[20:40] <laozi> ikonia: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6189686/ this is what it did
[20:40] <Lunar_Lander> it's called Axe menu
[20:40] <wilee-nilee> the hdmi cable is that tiny plug is all tyoe A BluesKaj
[20:40] <Lunar_Lander> and it is some sort of big start menu
[20:40] <psf> Hi all
[20:40] <ikonia> laozi: my advice is still the same
[20:41] <BluesKaj> wilee-nilee, no , it's DVI on the pc to hdmi on the tv
[20:41] <fidel> zykotick9: no effect - still ending up in that fallback mode
[20:41] <laozi> can u tell me what to do.. if i have to change them can i do with gpart in live cd or need to install it again?
[20:41] <laozi> ikonia: can u tell me what to do.. if i have to change them can i do with gpart in live cd or need to install it again?
[20:42] <ikonia> laozi: you can do it many ways, is this a new system or an old one ?
[20:42] <wilee-nilee> BluesKaj, cool I was not sure what port to plug into is all, thanks, I have a DMI port.
[20:42] <BluesKaj> wilee-nilee, believe it or not DVI can digtal audio as well
[20:43] <jhutchins> Dentych: http://tldp.org/HOWTO/IP-Masquerade-HOWTO/
[20:43] <laozi> ikonia: new i mean a year old. i installed from a live usb.
[20:43] <jhutchins> laozi: I agree, until you know where you'll be using up space, one partition + swap makes more sense.
[20:44] <wilee-nilee> BluesKaj, Cool, thanks, I have a nice audio system set up with the computer I was mainly wanting to use it with the tv and the movies I have already on the tv, just basic computer to tv stuff.
[20:44] <jhutchins> laozi: The default partitioning scheme is archaic and obsolete and should be changed.
[20:44] <ikonia> laozi: so you have 2 options. 1.) use something like gparted to resize your partitions 2.) unmount /usr, copy the data to /usr on the root file system, and then delete the partition and reclaim the space
[20:44] <Lunar_Lander> wilee-nilee, fidel just found the correct extension for the shutdown key
[20:45] <Lunar_Lander> :)
[20:45] <wilee-nilee> cool
[20:46] <BluesKaj> wilee-nilee, yes understood ..I use the coax/spdif audio out to an audio receiver as well, this pc is our HTPC so to speak , and I use the tv as a pc monitor
[20:46] <laozi> juhitchins: yup my wrong should have done it manually
[20:47] <laozi> @ikonia i cant do it on gparted they all are locked for changing/editing
[20:47] <ikonia> laozi: you would need to boot from live media to resize them
[20:48] <Guest23058> Hey, I just installed Ubuntu 13.04 on my Mid-2012 MBP. Everything works fine, but when I close the lid, it won't go to suspend mode
[20:48] <laozi> ikonia: ok i will do it.. but what size should i give?? any ideal size?
[20:48] <Guest23058> Even though the settings say it should
[20:48] <ikonia> isbric_: as I said,  I would not have /usr on a seperate partition
[20:49] <wilee-nilee> BluesKaj, Thanks for the help, I have had old analog tv's up to this point so I'm not familiar with the options and what I need to use them.
[20:50] <laozi> ikonia: i have 50gb space..  how should i partition them? root temp usr var home etc
[20:50] <jmgk> hoem
[20:50] <jmgk> home*
[20:53] <listr> What is the shell command to run an application?
[20:54] <Rrrrr> to run what application ?
[20:54] <psf> ./<app_name>
[20:54] <laozi> i cant access files in network like i used to enter \\server name in addressbar of xubuntu to access it but cant do so in gnome 3 any help??
[20:58] <laozi> hloo
[21:05] <Lunar_Lander> one final stupid question
[21:05] <Lunar_Lander> why is there no .themes folder in my install?
[21:05] <bekks> Lunar_Lander: Just create one.
[21:07] <Lunar_Lander> ok, thanks
[21:09] <wotan147> anyone: is there a channel dedicated to configuration of printers (canon) with ubuntu ?
[21:09] <Ari-Yang> wotan147, not sure... #hardware maybe? :s
[21:12] <OerHeks> wotan147, check open printing database and there is the ##cups channel
[21:12] <OerHeks> http://www.openprinting.org/printers
[21:13] <Tango172> testing... :)
[21:13] <anonymouse_> hello fellow peoples
[21:15] <anonymouse_> wazzup!!!
[21:16] <uenostation> yoyoyo
[21:16] <anonymouse_> hows everyone doing after gov shutdown
[21:16] <fidel> anonymouse_: this is a support channel - consider using the offtopic channel for general chat
[21:17] <daftykins> funnily enough freenode != america
[21:17] <daftykins> there are other places in the world, than america
[21:21] <uenostation> Like New Zealand
[21:21] <uenostation> and Belgium
[21:21] <uenostation> And don't forget Iceland
[21:23] <delinquentme> can someone give me the DEFAULT ubuntu output for "which python"
[21:24] <fidel> delinquentme: /usr/bin/python
[21:38] <skinux> Why do I have to click OS in Nautilus everytime I restart?
[21:38] <skinux> If Ubuntu can see Windows, why does it not mount automatically?
[21:38] <fidel> fstab defines what is automaticly mounted
[21:38] <toothe> I just installed Ubuntu on a server. I have my wifi settings in /etc/network/interfaces, with the ssid and password. However, I noticed that I do not get an IP address when I boot up.
[21:39] <toothe> What might be causing that?
[21:39] <fidel> skinux: in other words: not everyone wants it automounted ;)
[21:39] <skinux> Okay.
[21:40] <skinux> What is the mount point for configuring automount?
[21:40] <skinux> Or...remind me where to look for that.
[21:40] <k1l_> skinux: just create a folder in /mnt/
[21:40] <k1l_> and then mount into that folder
[21:41] <skinux> I'll need something to mount the directory to.
[21:41] <k1l_> ?
[21:41] <k1l_> !fstab | skinux
[21:41] <toothe> better quetsion -- what command or script uses /etc/network/interfaces?
[21:43] <delinquentme> fidel can I get a stat /usr/bin/python
[21:44] <fidel> delinquentme: what?
[21:45] <delinquentme> $ stat /usr/bin/python
[21:45] <toothe> I noticed that 'ifup wlan0' does not bring my wifi card up, despite me having my wifi password setup. What would cause that?
[21:45] <delinquentme> IE where does that symbolic link point
[21:45] <bekks> toothe: ifup wlan0 turns on the interface, nothing more.
[21:45] <OerHeks> delinquentme, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6189977/
[21:45] <delinquentme> fidel, it should be something like this File: `/usr/bin/python' -> `python2.6'
[21:46] <toothe> bekks: man(5) of interfaces says it uses /etc/network/interfaces. And that file contains my wifi password.
[21:46] <delinquentme> OerHeks, $ which python2.7
[21:46] <delinquentme> erm OerHeks $ which ipython
[21:47] <OerHeks> same, /usr/bin/python
[21:48] <toothe> yah, I don't get this...
[21:49] <delinquentme> OerHeks, both which python and which ipython are the same "File" ??
[21:50] <OerHeks> delinquentme, which ipython returns nothing, which python returns  which ipython returns /usr/bin/python like fidel
[21:51] <OerHeks> delinquentme, did you mess up your python install?
[21:51] <delinquentme> OerHeks, yeahhh
[21:51] <bekks> delinquentme: What did you do?
[21:52] <delinquentme> bekks, when I run ipython I get issues with pkg_resources missing
[21:52] <HackerII>  
[21:52] <delinquentme>  
[21:53] <bekks> delinquentme: Thats not what I asked :)
[21:55] <delinquentme> bekks, IDK
[21:56] <delinquentme> bekks, maybe something w virtualenv ... also installing python 2.7.5 when its no officially supported on 12.04
[21:56] <delinquentme> erm! 10.04
[21:56] <bekks> delinquentme: So you are basically runnin an unsupported environment, dont you? :)
[21:58] <delinquentme> bekks, that would be 10.04
[21:58] <delinquentme> yes
[21:59] <bekks> delinquentme: Why dont you run a supported version on your 10.04 then?
[21:59] <delinquentme> im trying to get it back to 2.6.5
[21:59] <delinquentme> however i've got this issue
[21:59] <delinquentme> also I'm hesitant to remove and reinstall 2.6.5
[22:00] <delinquentme> bekks, this is probably a smart hesitation right?
[22:00] <bekks> delinquentme: No. Its just quite impossible to support an unsupported configuration.
[22:01] <delinquentme> bekks, to reiterate. I'm trying to get back to a "supported configuration "
[22:01] <delinquentme> IE i've uninstalled 2.7
[22:01] <delinquentme> and trying to fix 2.6.5
[22:01] <delinquentme> so I'm asking if removing / reinstalling 2.6.5 would fix
[22:02] <Dr_Willis> we really cant tell one way or anotehr if thats a guarenteed fix.
[22:07] <Rory> delinquentme: You're welcome to try but know that 10.04 is end-of-life on the desktop
[22:07] <Rory> !eol
[22:08] <delinquentme> yeah
[22:08] <Rory> delinquentme: It should fix it, yes.
[22:11] <loa> what is ubuntu way to load modules?
[22:11] <loa> for example i want add modprobe v4l2loopback devices 4
[22:14] <daftykins> loa: listing them in /etc/modules i think
[22:15] <loa> daftykins, for what then need folder /etc/modprobe.d
[22:16] <daftykins> loa: sorry i don't understand you
[22:16] <delinquentme> ok so it looks like I've installed python 2.7 via tarbal ... and its not found in dpkg ... but i can run python2.7
[22:16] <Dr_Willis> !modules
[22:16] <delinquentme> ( even if it crashes bc missing packages )
[22:17] <Dr_Willis> delinquentme:  source install is not seen by the apt system
[22:20] <tbic> How do i get a list of package I have installed after the setup (apt-mark seems to list all packages installed)
[22:23] <fidel> tbic: dpkg -l
[22:23] <k1l_> dpkg --get-selections | awk '!/deinstall|purge|hold/ {print $1}' > packages.list
[22:24] <tbic> that still list a lot of things like xserver-*
[22:24] <k1l_> yes, i hope you got a x-server installed :)
[22:25] <skinux> Hmm. I hate how Ubuntu opens apps docked to lower-right screen corner.
[22:26] <tbic> I was looking for a list of things I install not packages that where installed for me.
[22:26] <delinquentme> is there an easy wall to remove all traces of python2.7 if I installed via tarball?
[22:27] <bekks> delinquentme: No, you have to remove all traces manually.
[22:29] <pfifo> hello world
[22:31] <lonewulf85> My computer does not dim when I tell it to. Ubuntu 12.04 Kernel 3.5.0-41-generic, Acer AO722 netbook
[22:34] <mikeandrd> How do I add custom system sounds to Ubuntu 13.04?
[22:35] <draco88> hi
[22:35] <draco88> can anybody help me?
[22:36] <dragonfly> draco88: depends what you need help with
[22:36] <draco88> I have around 1k folders, in every  folder there is 1 file
[22:36] <draco88> I want to copy every one of this file in to one folder
[22:36] <dragonfly> that's strange....don't think i've ever seen or heard of something like that before
[22:36] <mikeandrd> Nobody knows how to install custom system sounds?
[22:37] <lonewulf85> Please help not being able to dim is draining my battery
[22:37] <draco88> anyone know how to do this?
[22:38] <dragonfly> all of these foldtes are in a directory by themselves?
[22:38] <draco88> yes
[22:39] <draco88> it look like that: foldername1/file.jpg
[22:39] <draco88> foldername2/file2.jpg
[22:39] <draco88> and so on
[22:40] <draco88> every jpg file have different name
[22:40] <pfifo> draco88: find -type f /path/to stuff | sed 's/.*/mv "&" .
[22:42] <pfifo> draco88: find -type f /path/to stuff | sed 's/.*/mv "&" ./' > output.sh
[22:42] <loa> i want add module to autoload, command line it looks so modprobe v4l2loopback devices=4. So i created file under /etc/modprobe.d/ and add there string v4l2loopback devices=4
[22:42] <loa> it will be enought or i need add module to /etc/modules ?
[22:45] <Susning> Hi. I'm considering changing to latest stable Ubuntu. My question is if hibernation and suspend work seamless or if it's (still) trouble with those functions? I suppose this might affect different computers in different ways but my overall experience before have been that this has not been working on any of my machines. Freeze when starting up from hibernation have been standard. Since I have not been Ubuntu for quite a long time I thought
[22:45] <Susning> I should put out the question and see if it is overall fixed?
[22:47] <xangua> Susning: suspend works fine, hibernation on the other side...
[22:47] <pfifo> Susning: ubuntu has disabled hibernation altogether, its too buggy. suspend however is work9ng great
[22:47] <Susning> Ok. I actually don't want to use Hibernation at all. How can I 100% turn that function off?
[22:47] <Susning> thanks
[22:47] <mikeandrd> Why do I always get "You don't have the right permissions to extract archives in the folder"? I'm the only user on ubuntu and the main user
[22:47] <Susning> then you answered my questions :D
[22:54] <loa> if there way to switch off automated lighting on my source?
[22:54] <loa> if it must by some kind of option for v4l2src
[22:54] <loa> i think it must be *
[22:54] <loa> oh wrong channle
[22:56] <FluxD> Hi all somehow I cant now login using the login screen. It circles back to login screen again please help
[23:09] <mikeandrd92> How do I add custom system sounds?
[23:10] <Dr_Willis> I got no idea mikeandrd92  :) but id check askubuntu.com to see  if others have asked that.
[23:10] <honestly> Hello! I'm currently setting up a ubuntu 12.10 machine that I intend to image to provision lots of other machines. Is there a guide towards ssh host keys etc. that should be deleted before imaging so that the clones are "fresh"?
[23:11] <Dr_Willis> why are you using 12.10 and not 12.04  or the latest releases?
[23:11] <Dr_Willis> !12.10
[23:11] <Dr_Willis> factoid is outdated. ;)
[23:11] <honestly> good question.
[23:11] <Dr_Willis> Normally people go with the LTS or the latest release.
[23:12] <Dr_Willis> not in between
[23:12] <Dr_Willis> theres some dpkg command/other commands  i recall to force ssh to regenerate its keys. I had to use it on my raspberry pi in the past.
[23:13] <honestly> mmm, dpkg-reconfigure openssh-server apparently
[23:14] <honestly> anything else that needs to be done?
[23:14] <honestly> can you point me to the release lifetime matrix?
[23:14] <Dr_Willis> no idea what else might be an issue.
[23:14] <Dr_Willis> !release
[23:15] <Dr_Willis> 12.04 was a lts 'exception' it has a longer support life then any earlier releases
[23:15] <honestly> next lts will be 14.04?
[23:15] <Dr_Willis> yes
[23:15] <honestly> ok
[23:15] <honestly> guess I should downgrade.
[23:16] <Dr_Willis> 13.10 due out soon. ;)
[23:16] <draco88> and it doesn't work
[23:17] <Dr_Willis> 13.10 is working fine for me on my 3 test machines
[23:17] <Dr_Willis> one of the least problematic betas ive tested
[23:17] <krux> yeh works fine here also
[23:18] <Dr_Willis> but i imagine theres not a lot of fancy new features that will tempt people away from their working setups.
[23:21] <Dr_Willis> one thing about using xubuntu, or lubuntu, you just dont notice much changes between the new releases. ;)  except for perhaps a few little touches here and there.
[23:22] <ram_> LTS
[23:23] <Hungary> Hey does anyone know how to fix a missing driver error while installing ubuntu server?
[23:24] <Dr_Willis> what driver?
[23:25] <Hungary> Ethernet card
[23:25] <Dr_Willis> you mean a wired network card?  theres only a few of those ive seen that are dont allready have drivers built into the default kernel.
[23:25] <Dr_Willis> whats the chipset?
[23:26] <Dr_Willis> could be the driver just dosent exist, or is not in whatever kerne you are using. but a newer kernel may have it
[23:27] <Hungary> Im trying to install 12.04 server
[23:27] <Dr_Willis> 12.04 not one of the 12.04.4 newer point releases?
[23:28] <Dr_Willis> or was it 12.04.3
[23:28] <Hungary> the desktop is a HP Pavilion Slim
[23:28] <Hungary> 12.04.3 is the one I downloaded and burned on a CD
[23:28] <Dr_Willis> ok  that must be the newest 12.04.x then ;)
[23:28] <Dr_Willis> lspci can determine your pcs chipsets and what the network card is exactly
[23:29] <Dr_Willis> or should give some clues
[23:30] <Hungary> lspci?
[23:30] <Dr_Willis> i have an older HP 'slim' pc i picked up on clearance about 2 yrs ago. ;)  its amazing how well.. underpowered it is compared to my even older fullsized desktop
[23:30] <Dr_Willis> 'lspci' is a command for the shell
[23:30] <Dr_Willis> if you dont understand the shell, then you may want to be doing a desktop install.
[23:33]  * toothe wonders if I can run the installer off a flash drive.
[23:33] <Dr_Willis> you can make a bootable usb flash drive toothe
[23:34] <Dr_Willis> !install
[23:42] <Immatix> Why is it that Ubuntu still doesn't have a system-wide equalizer
[23:42] <daftykins> Immatix: they're waiting for you to make it i guess
[23:43] <Immatix> Surely it has been requested before? I know there was a pulseaudio thing to accomplish it but it never worked right
[23:45] <Immatix> I also thought that Pulseaudio had support for it built in but it's not included in the Ubuntu build
[23:45] <Dr_Willis> Immatix:  ive seen pulse audio equalizers in some ppa/repos befor
[23:46] <Dr_Willis> but ive never reallyneeded it or used it.
[23:46] <kostkon> Immatix: true
[23:46] <rek> what's the suspend command?
[23:47] <jmgk> hi Dr_Willis
[23:48] <rek> hi
[23:48] <rek> what's the suspend command?
[23:48] <rek> oh sorry
[23:49] <Dr_Willis> http://www.webupd8.org/2013/03/install-pulseaudio-with-built-in-system.html   2013 - newest post i see with mention of a system wide equalizer for pulse
[23:50] <Dr_Willis> weird.
[23:50] <Dr_Willis> In Ubuntu 13.04, Pulseaudio is finally build with equalizer support but the actual equalizer is missing from the package for some reason, even though it's available in the source.
[23:51] <Tylertwo> rek: http://askubuntu.com/questions/1792/how-can-i-suspend-hibernate-from-command-line
[23:51] <rek> thx
[23:52] <pfifo> Dr_Willis: you can still put you speakers in a bucket to get a nice bass boost
[23:54] <Dr_Willis> only time i use a equalizer (on my android phone even) is when im playing back some video captures i made. theres a real real highpitched whine  that i filter out. ;)
[23:54] <Dr_Willis> i rarely want a bass boost.
[23:55] <Dr_Willis> i rarely even have sound on my pc's ;)
[23:55] <jmgk> Dr_Willis,  how often do you use IRC on your phone ?
[23:56] <Dr_Willis> jmgk:  every day at work. Unless i get a day off. ;P
[23:56] <jmgk> yeah but...
[23:56] <jmgk> I mean I'm thinking
[23:56] <jmgk> there's an app that is on Android and the seme app is on the computer
[23:56] <jmgk> so do you think its a good idea to have both?
[23:56] <Dr_Willis> even right now - im hot-spotted to my phone
[23:56] <jmgk> I mean I wouldn't use IRC much but I already bought it
[23:56] <jmgk> what do yo usgugest ?
[23:56] <jmgk> what do you suggest?
[23:56] <jmgk> it is nice to have both
[23:57] <Dr_Willis> You bought an irc client?  what client.
[23:57] <jmgk> Colloquy
[23:57] <Dr_Willis> I use andchat on the phone, therees a weechat-gui for android that connects to your current weechat session
[23:57] <Dr_Willis> never heard of  colloquy
[23:57] <jmgk> ah I see
[23:57] <jmgk> well its nice
[23:57] <jmgk> anyways
[23:57] <jmgk> What do you suggest I do?
[23:58] <pfifo> I could never get andchat to work... but it might be cause freenode dosent like cingular
[23:58] <Dr_Willis> thats an apple irc client from what i just googled.
[23:58] <Dr_Willis> pfifo:  i had to setup sasl identification for at&t here.
[23:58] <Dr_Willis> freenode seems to block a lot of the ip range for cell networks
[23:58] <jmgk> yep
[23:58] <jmgk> well I mean
[23:58] <pfifo> Dr_Willis: yeah I had todo that for xchat on the hotspot
[23:58] <jmgk> Dr_Willis, its a good idea to have both ?
[23:58] <Dr_Willis> took me a while to figure that out.
[23:59] <jmgk> Should I get both?
[23:59] <jmgk> I mean as I said . I bought it
[23:59] <jmgk> as I had some extra cash before
[23:59] <jmgk> IT Does have a built in bouncer
[23:59] <FloodBot1> jmgk: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:59] <Dr_Willis> jmgk:  both what?  Im not sure what  you are meaning exactly
[23:59] <jmgk> ah
[23:59] <pfifo> Dr_Willis: i said heck with it all and bought a VPS, now I irssi and screen
[23:59] <jmgk> There's an app for it on the desktop
[23:59] <Dr_Willis> pfifo:  yep was doing that with znc on my homepc. or the ditigal ocean  vps  i had.
[23:59] <jmgk> darn it. well anyways there is a mobile app with the desktop app