[02:31] <em_> hi, I've been testing Beta 2 64bit and find that UEFI is totally broken.  is this a known issue?
[02:36] <holstein> !uefi
[02:36] <holstein> em_: you mean, you cant install it?
[02:43] <holstein> em_: whats the issue with uefi? is this a QA test case?
[03:40] <OvenWerks> holstein: FYI uefi secure boot only works with the generic kernel for now.
[03:41] <OvenWerks> I think it should work without secure boot turned on though
[04:10] <em_> nope, not using secure boot...  see for yourself, it only takes about 5 minutes to set this up in virtualbox.   I was trying to convince a windows 8 victim to switch to ubustudio but could not get it to run.
[04:12] <em_> yes, I have read the https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI  docs, plus others, I get nowhere.
[04:56] <holstein> em_: i dont understand what you mean by "windows 8 victim" or "couldnt get it to run".. or whate "it" is
[04:56] <holstein> em_: i would install ubuntu.. not ubuntustudio.. and install/use a non-testing version..
[04:56] <holstein> !uefi
[04:57] <holstein> ^^ that documentation should work fine with the main ubuntu version.. then, you can add what you want from the studio pacagkes
[04:57] <holstein> packages*
[04:59] <holstein> em_: i would disable the secureboot on the machine
[05:14] <em_> we are going round in circles...  :-(   SECUREBOOT is NOT enabled...   anyone stuck with windows 8 esp when they didn't want it is a victim of the m$ monopoly.  booting the Beta 2 on a UEFI does eventually find it's way to the grub prompt.  selecting Run Without Installing ends with a blank/black screen that never goes away.  selecting test/verify cd... actually works.  selecting either Install or OEM Install does... after about 4 minutes
[05:14] <em_>  pause with a blank/black screen does finally bring up the installer.  so far I have managed to do one install, oten it hangs instead of installing, but the install that did complete was not bootable, it was only giving me a black/blank screen with no visible activity.  however on that particular install I did try enabling encryption which was probably a bad idea.  have now made several attempts to do the install without encryption and ha
[05:14] <em_> ve yet to succeed.  the install that did complete did partiton the disk and put files on it, but agin, not bootable.  I cant make it any more clear than this.  highly suggest you try it yourself it only takes 5 minutes to set up a virtualbox test.
[05:15] <holstein> em_: stuck? if you purchase a machine with an operating system on it, thats a choice.. not something one is "stuck" with
[05:16] <holstein> em_: get a stable version of an OS that supports the hardware.. ubuntu, main ubuntu should support your hardware fine
[05:16] <wilee-nilee> if it is wiped it needs a msdos partition table probably
[05:16] <holstein> em_: dont use the development release if you are having issues, for there is no official support for it
[05:16] <wilee-nilee> and the mbr area cleaned gpt remnants will cause problems
[05:17] <holstein> one thing i would do in that scenario is to test the hard disk for errors.. any virtualbox tests i do pass
[05:17] <holstein> but, i dont have that particular hardware...
[05:18] <em_> virtualbox is a blank never formatted disk.  windows 8 has a bootable os, was trying to run live cd, so mbr not an issue
[05:18] <em_> virtualbox is not a hardware, you are apparently a troll or very troll like...  bye
[05:23] <holstein> for the record, i meant, i dont have the *actual* hardware in particular that is failing for em_.. i only have virtualbox, which i understand is not hardware.. and it works on the iso's i test, but i dont know or have that particular iso to test with
[13:21] <kale_> Hi, realtive noob here. I'm trying to get my usb guitar interface to run through jack and back out of the computer. I got it setup and working yesterday, albeit with high latency. I started to tweak settings for latency, and the usb connection stopped working (hydrogen still output, though). Returning settings to default didn't help. Any ideas?
[16:50] <MaynardWaters> holstein: sounded like em_ wasnt in a generally good mood anyways, not much you can do to help someone like that
[16:50] <holstein> MaynardWaters: i probably should have been more clear though, since maybe we had a language barrier as well
[22:50] <kale_> Hi, I'm having an odd problem getting my usb interface to work with jack. It worked until I starting messing with latency settings, then it stopped working. Return to qjackctl defaults didn't help, nor did a reinstall of jackd.
[22:52] <holstein> kale_: sometimes, i try with the live CD, just to make sure its still functioning.. do you have any error messages in the jack window?
[22:55] <kale_> no errors. I'm very new to jack; looking for errors made me notice it mentions device hw:0 (onboard stuff) but has no mention of hw:1 (usb) in the startup messages
[22:56] <kale_> it does say acquired audio card Audio0.
[22:57] <holstein> one thing i suggest, if you can, disable the onboard audio, then, you'll know that JACK is seeing the USB
[22:57] <holstein> otherwise, its probably a matter of selecting the device
[22:57] <holstein> there are 2 drop down menus..
[22:58] <kale_> "hw:1 usb audio codec" is selected as "Input Device". is this what you're talking about?
[23:00] <holstein> kale_: i, nor you, will ever really konw, likely
[23:00] <holstein> what do i do? i try and reduce the amount of cards.. .thus having only the one device
[23:00] <holstein> then, when i see a device, i know its it
[23:00] <holstein> otherwise, i literally select *every* one and test
[23:00] <holstein> not trusting labels
[23:01] <kale_> ok, I'll give that a go. Gotta go teach a guitar lesson. Thanks.
[23:01] <holstein> kale_: good luck