[03:51] <Sir_Leto> I'm about to try dual booting with this mysterious uefi laptop.
[03:51] <Sir_Leto> wish me luck
[03:52] <Poisoned_Dragon> good luck
[03:52] <Unit193> Alrighty, good luck.  Got the 64bit ISO?
[03:52] <Sir_Leto> yes, of course.
[03:55] <Sir_Leto> My windows 8 install doesnt boot instantly now that I've disabled a bunch of stuff to make dual booting work.
[03:55] <Sir_Leto> I wonder if it'll annoy me
[03:58] <Viva_Caligula> My take on booting is, I don't care if it takes 5 minutes so long as it's stable when running and rarely needs restarts
[04:15] <j_> hi; i'm having issues with sound on my thinkpad x230: the builtin sound plays, but the usb-connected DAC does not
[04:16] <j_> when i click on the sound/volume indicator applet, then settings, no audio settings appear
[04:16] <j_> a command like "sudo aplay -l" *does* list my usb-connected DAC
[04:16] <kristal> j_: Hmm... could try alsamixer
[04:16] <Unit193> j_: What version?
[04:16] <j_> re. alsamixer: it appears there too... i can mute the builtin, and set volume at like 50% on the usb
[04:17] <j_> yet when i go to play .. no sound out of speakers
[04:17] <j_> currently the latest
[04:17] <kristal> j_: in alsamixer you can select sound card
[04:17] <j_> (ubuntu version = 13.04)
[04:18] <j_> kristal, when i run alsamixer, i can use f6 to select the usb dac
[04:18] <j_> but even if i mute the builtin, no sound comes out of usb..
[04:18] <j_> do i need to e.g. do something as root, or start some service or something?
[04:19] <Unit193> j_: Menu > Multimedia > PulseAudio Volume Control.
[04:19] <j_> HA!
[04:19] <j_> weirdly when i right-click on the taskbar volume applet, that was not appearing
[04:19] <j_> (where it used to)
[04:19] <j_> gimme a sec here to fiddle
[04:20] <j_> heheh man
[04:20] <j_> awesome
[04:20] <j_> turning builtin off from there was successful
[04:20] <j_> i just didn't know how to get to that menu, except through the little taskbar applet thingy
[04:21] <j_> and i feel midly embarrassed i didn't think of that
[04:21] <j_> thanks again
[04:24] <kristal> And here I was thinking pulse was broken for you. :P
[04:24] <j_> the audio service certainly isn't .. i hear music
[04:25] <j_> but the indicator applet is... being weird
[04:25] <j_> it isn't responding to scroll up/down events
[04:25] <j_> and still when i right click and then choose "Sound Preferences", the pulseaudio control panel doesn't show
[04:26] <j_> instead it's some generic "System Settings" window, with only 3 options: Language Support, Printers, and Software & Updates
[04:26] <j_> which is... not right
[04:27] <j_> any thoughts on that?
[04:27] <j_> this is the first time i've plugged in the usb audio, and it wasn't plugged in when i installed (if that has anything to do with it)
[04:28] <kristal> sounds like your indicators is buggy
[04:28] <j_> oh, i forgot to mention this is xubuntu, so it's xfce
[04:29] <kristal> well you are on the xubuntu channel :P
[04:29] <j_> ah, at least i chose that right
[04:29] <j_> haha - had a few drinks earlier ;)
[04:29] <j_> curiously the physical volume buttons on my laptop *do* work
[04:34] <j_> hm; anyone else have any ideas how to fully reset/reinitialize the sound applet/indicator thingy?  (so that it resumes responding to scroll up/down mouse events to increase/decrease volume and so that right-clicking and choosing Sount Settings actually brings up the pulseaudio control panel)
[04:34] <j_> i've tried killing both xfce4-volumed and gnome-sound-applet, to no avail
[04:39] <j__> (<- the user formerly known as "j_): a reboot has not restored sane volume indicator app behavior
[04:39] <j__> grr
[04:40] <j__> i'm annoyed how this "just worked" in xubuntu 10, 11, and 12
[04:49] <j__> i shall attempt to see if installing "indicator-sound-gtk2" and editing "/usr/share/dbus-1/services/indicator-sound.service" to point to it fixes anything as https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/indicator-sound/+bug/1208204 suggests
[04:51] <j_> alas no
[04:51] <j_> infinite tears and sadness for xfce audio applets everywhere
[04:51] <j_> and poor tired users
[04:51] <j_> :[
[04:52] <j_> thanks tho, MISTER CHANNEL
[04:52] <j_> peace
[05:03] <kristal> Oh god why does thunar take so long to start in 13.10... didn't have this problem until today
[05:37] <Jzarecta> hi I am running xubuntu on a small USB drive
[05:37] <Jzarecta> I want to 'abstract' my home, and my wifi connections, how can I do this?
[05:38] <Jzarecta> basically I dont want to put my wifi keys everytime I load (sorry I meant running on a CD not USB)
[05:39] <Viva_Caligula> Running on a live cd, nothing is persistant
[05:39] <Viva_Caligula> there may be a way to set it up as the cd is being made though
[05:40] <Jzarecta> viva right, but I want to have all these credentials on my phone, so when I connect my phone, and run a script it will 'configure' my wifi connection, etc...
[05:40] <Jzarecta> my phone will hold all these credentials of course.
[05:41] <Jzarecta> I just dont want to a) remember password, b) execute the commands everytime I boot, etc.
[05:41] <xyzone> only live usb can have persistence
[05:41] <Jzarecta> xyzone, well I want to use my phone for storage of all that
[05:42] <Jzarecta> I would probably need to create a user since mine is not xubuntu :)
[05:42] <xyzone> there is no default tool. you'll have to do a custom hack yourself
[05:42] <Jzarecta> so the script will generate my home, setup my wifi, mount my folders, etc.
[05:42] <Jzarecta> xyzone, that's why I am here, I would think this would be something people do usually.
[05:43] <Jzarecta> where can I load my wifi profiile?
[05:46] <Jzarecta> anyone?
[05:49] <Jzarecta> other question on xfce, is there a way to configure the behavior so that double click on the window is the same as 'shade'
[05:58] <Jzarecta> ah got it, it was on the advanced preferences.. at the very end.
[05:59] <Unit193> Jzarecta: /etc/NetworkManager/system-connections/ files, and they have to be owned by root and 600.
[05:59] <Jzarecta> Unit193, ah thanks.
[06:01] <Unit193> And no, I wouldn't call this so standard, but nearly sounds like something I've done before. >_>
[06:02] <Jzarecta> Unit193, really? I would think people would like to 'save' their wifi credentials somewhere else.
[06:02] <Jzarecta> would be pretty embarassing getting locked out of your own wifi spots. :(
[06:03] <Unit193> Yeah, but that's different than saving the config file.
[06:03] <Unit193> And the scripts to setup home, networking, etc thing.
[06:04] <Jzarecta> Unit193, right, I want to have my ~ on my phone, since is the only stable thing I can count on following with me and wont die tomorrow like a USB, etc.
[06:06] <Jzarecta> Jzarecta, alternatively I wonder if I can just use my phone as a LiveUSB without disrupting the info I got there
[06:07] <Jzarecta> I dont really know how to go about isolinux and everything there.
[06:11] <xyzone> try installing live usb into your phone
[06:12] <Jzarecta> xyzone, ok will look how to do this, I already found a few links.
[06:12] <Jzarecta> thanks
[06:12] <xyzone> use unetbootin
[06:13] <Jzarecta> I tried that for my USBs but my laptop didnt pick it up, I have to go old school and burn it on a CD, and it did work.
[06:13] <Jzarecta> (yes I did changed the BIOS settings)
[06:14] <Jzarecta> I dont want unetbootin to errase my data on my phone, how can I do to prevent that?
[06:14] <xyzone> load it to the sd card
[06:14] <Jzarecta> should I partition my phone's SD card first? and just mount the partition?
[06:14] <Jzarecta> ok
[07:40] <xubuntu180> Hi
[07:42] <cfhowlett> xubuntu180, greetings
[07:42] <xubuntu180> I have a problem with GoldenDict
[07:43] <xubuntu180> I have 13.04 xubuntu and GoldenDict does'not work
[07:46] <cfhowlett> "doesn't work"????
[07:46] <cfhowlett> !details
[08:26] <Guest10047> hi I want to launch an event using the Orange calendar
[08:27] <cfhowlett> !cron
[08:27] <JZAbut> I can't seem to launch the sound player
[08:28] <JZA> cfhowlett: I want to know how can I launch the mp3 file from the command line if there is any.. I know that the default media player
[08:28] <JZA> but it has no default media player
[08:28] <cfhowlett> JZA, sure.  what's the player?
[08:28] <JZA> cfhowlett: well Parole
[08:29] <JZA> cfhowlett: and gmusicbrowser
[08:29] <JZA> I think gmusicbrowser uses gstreamer as the backend, not sure if I can use it from commandline
[08:29] <cfhowlett> JZA, parole?  what the hey?  gmusicbrowser?  launch from the command line gmusicbrowser help    or -help   should display the options
[08:30] <JZA> Parole Media Player, is the deefault in the xubuntu livecd
[08:30] <antithesis> I accidentally did sudo apt-get install xfce4 on Xubuntu and now my configuration has changed. For example, transparency doesn't work anymore (did compositing break?) and alt-dragging things has no more effect. How can I undo this?
[08:30] <antithesis> I'd like to just sudo apt-get remove xfce4 but then I'll lose the whole desktop environment
[08:31] <cfhowlett> JZA, I'm on ubuntustudio, i.e. xubuntu plus multimedia.  never heard of it ...
[08:32] <cfhowlett> antithesis, quick and easy:  go into /home   select and delete all .hidden files and folders      to clear all program settings
[08:39] <antithesis> Can't I uninstall just the packages that are inside xfce4, but not in xubuntu-desktop?
[08:42] <well_laid_lawn> try   sudo apt-get install --reinstall xubuntu-desktop antithesis
[09:05] <antithesis> Okay I dun goof'd. I renamed my ~/.config/xfce4 to xfce4.bak and reinstalled xubuntu-desktop, but now my old configuration is completely lost and renaming the folder back doesn't change anything either
[09:06] <antithesis> plus, alt+dragging still doesn't move windows
[09:06] <antithesis> Is there any other configuration files xfce uses? I don't want to reconfigure it from scratch
[11:38] <linuxlite1969> cant set keyboard, first row of letters is azertyuiop but comes out as azerty456-
[11:42] <Guest93419> hi
[11:48] <Guest93419> hello
[11:48] <Guest93419> anybody?
[12:02] <olbi> hello, what do you need?
[12:02] <elfy> they left olbi :)
[12:05] <olbi> I saw it too late :P
[16:31] <Myr4ik> Привет! Есть кто-нибудь, кто говорит по русски?
[16:31] <ObrienDave> ru! | Myr4ik
[16:31] <Myr4ik> Это значит да?
[16:32] <ObrienDave> !bot
[16:34] <Myr4ik> Ок, попробуем напролом) В *nix системах я новичок, так что могу сильно тупить... Как включить vsync в xubuntu 13.04? Ставил драйвер NVIDIA с сайта, но vsync так и не заработал. Видеокарта - 8600GT
[16:34] <elfy> !ru
[16:35] <ObrienDave> dang i keep forgetting ! first
[19:04] <xubuntu954> Hello volounteers. A friend of mine has installed Xubuntu on my laptop to which I am completly new to. My wireless is not working due to it being permanently disabled (the wireless light will not turn from amber to blue). It is an hp dv7 1000ea and I have had this problem in the past. Is it something to do with the drivers, do they need updating and how would I do that on this OS?
[19:04] <xubuntu954> Also the keypad doesn't work either
[19:04] <xubuntu954> *volunteers
[19:06] <ObrienDave> xubuntu954... i have had the wireless problem from a new kernel. has it worked under Xubuntu before?
[19:07] <xubuntu954> sorry not the keypad. the track pad. And no, I have had only versions of Windows before
[19:07] <ObrienDave> They updated the kernel within the past week or so
[19:07] <xubuntu954> the Kernel?
[19:08] <ObrienDave> did the wireless work under win?
[19:08] <xubuntu954> Yes
[19:09] <willem> Hi all
[19:09] <willem> I have a question
[19:09] <willem> I am installing xubuntu on my wife her laptop
[19:10] <ObrienDave> xubuntu954... do you see an icon for networking on the taskbar?
[19:10] <willem> But it is a Samsung 5 series and it has issues with hibernate
[19:10] <xubuntu954> yes
[19:10] <willem> I found several solutions
[19:10] <willem> but which is recommandable?
[19:10] <willem> TuxOnIce?
[19:11] <ObrienDave> xubuntu954... right click the icon, is "enable wi-fi" checked?
[19:11] <willem> Please help me out
[19:12] <willem> Nobody?
[19:12] <knome> !patience | willem
[19:12] <ObrienDave> willem... one thing at a time please. what kind of hibernate issues
[19:12] <xubuntu954> theres no 'enable wi-fi' when i right click the icon
[19:12] <ObrienDave> xubuntu954... ok, right click and select edit connections
[19:13] <xubuntu954> yes
[19:13] <willem> I activated hibernate i powermanagement
[19:13] <ObrienDave> xubuntu954... select add
[19:14] <willem> When I close the lid, and open again, the screen stays black but the fan works
[19:14] <ObrienDave> xubuntu954... select wi-fi
[19:14] <willem> so I can not come back
[19:15] <ObrienDave> xubuntu954... another window will appear. you will have to add SSID and password info
[19:15] <xubuntu954> sorry yes, there is enable netowrk and that is checked, however when I am not connected via cable it is unchecked. Okay, add
[19:16] <ObrienDave> xubuntu954... does the wired connection work?
[19:16] <xubuntu954> yes I am on it now. What I think is that the wirless switch on the computer (which is touch control) has locked itself to 'OFF'
[19:18] <ObrienDave> xubuntu954... ok, that could be a BIOS setting or you might have to enable it in windows before it will 'stay on' under Xubuntu. try both
[19:19] <xubuntu954> Okay, are you assuming the laptop is partitioned?
[19:21] <ObrienDave> no, usually the touch switch is controlled by BIOS. mine has a physical slide switch. yours is simply a toggle on a chip somewhere
[19:22] <xubuntu954> how do I access the BIOS settings on Xubuntu
[19:22] <ObrienDave> willem, have you tried moving mouse, hitting space bar, etc., coming out of hibernate?
[19:23] <ObrienDave> xubuntu954... umm, do you know how to get to the bios settings for your computer?
[19:23] <willem> Yes everything, powerbutton
[19:23] <willem> it is a know issue
[19:25] <xubuntu954> Okay, I'll try that. Thank you  ObrienDave
[19:26] <ObrienDave> willem... go to settings manager, power manager, extended, uncheck  "lock screen" at the bottom
[19:27] <willem> thank you but that is not what I mean, this is about screenprotection
[19:27] <willem> exampel: http://thecodecentral.com/2011/01/18/fix-ubuntu-10-10-suspendhibernate-not-working-bug
[19:28] <willem> it is a bug with several (not official) solutions.
[19:29] <ObrienDave> i guess i should have asked, what version of Xubuntu do you use?
[19:31] <willem> I use 13.04
[19:32] <ObrienDave> ok, let me try to hibernate. BRB
[19:35] <willem> it is laptop specific, my acer works fine, but the samsung just freezes
[19:36] <ObrienDave> back
[19:37] <ObrienDave> mine seems to work ok. when you come from hibernate, do you have any USB drives connected?
[19:38] <willem> no
[19:39] <willem> it is laptop dependant
[19:39] <ObrienDave> what model laptop?
[19:44] <ObrienDave> willem... have you read this? http://www.pauljoyceuk.com/codex/2012/howto-make-ubuntu-12-04-hibernate-successfully/
[19:44] <willem> yes
[19:44] <willem> but i am in doubt if this one is better: http://thecodecentral.com/2011/01/18/fix-ubuntu-10-10-suspendhibernate-not-working-bug
[19:46] <ObrienDave> i'm thinking the fix for that is too old for 13.04
[19:47] <ObrienDave> https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/ubuntu-help/power-hibernate.html
[19:49] <ObrienDave> back in a few
[19:52] <ObrienDave> back
[19:54] <willem> how can i move a program to the dock?
[19:55] <ObrienDave> not sure if you can add just any program to the taskbar
[19:56] <willem> no the dock at the bottom
[19:56] <Poisoned_Dragon> is it a real dock, or the lower panel?
[19:57] <willem> lower panel
[19:57] <Poisoned_Dragon> the lower panel, you right click, mouse over to panel, then click add new items
[19:57] <Poisoned_Dragon> then you add a laucher
[19:57] <ObrienDave> i don't use the lower panel. can't help you there
[19:57] <Poisoned_Dragon> right click the launcher to config for the app you want to launch
[19:57] <willem> thanks
[19:57] <Poisoned_Dragon> np
[19:58] <Poisoned_Dragon> you can also right click the launcher to move it
[19:58] <Poisoned_Dragon> I love xfce
[19:58] <ObrienDave> me too
[20:00] <willem> me too
[20:01] <willem> but i hope to get the hibernate issue solved
[20:02] <ObrienDave> well, I just added a launcher to the top panel in the same way ;))
[20:03] <ObrienDave> learn something new everyday :))
[20:15] <Poisoned_Dragon> ObrienDave, you can also move panel objects from one panel to another
[20:16] <Poisoned_Dragon> just by right clicking
[20:16] <Poisoned_Dragon> no need to delete and recreate
[20:16] <ObrienDave> didn't know that. I hate more than 1 panel. that's the first thing i get rid of. traditional menu kinda guy ;)
[20:17] <Poisoned_Dragon> I think the only object that can't be right-clicked to move is the indicator plugin.
[20:17] <Poisoned_Dragon> having 2 can be convenient. But, to each his/her own.
[20:18] <ObrienDave> if you mean the running app panel, yes, it can be moved by right click between icons ;)
[20:19] <Poisoned_Dragon> no, the one that shows your mixer and network
[20:19] <ObrienDave> yep, that's the one
[20:20] <ObrienDave> try really close to the bottom :)
[20:20] <Poisoned_Dragon> nvm, I got it. :)
[20:20] <ObrienDave> cool
[20:22] <Poisoned_Dragon> no, I'm right it's the indicator plugin.
[20:22] <Poisoned_Dragon> that's just the speaker
[20:22] <Poisoned_Dragon> but, you're right about the notification area
[20:24] <ObrienDave> ok, we're both correct :)
[20:24] <Poisoned_Dragon> still, it can be handled in panel preferences
[20:27] <ObrienDave> cool, good to know. thanks
[20:28] <Poisoned_Dragon> np
[23:41] <michaelwang32> is xbuntu good for a p4 with 1.75gb
[23:45] <michaelwang32> is xbuntu good for a p4 with 1.75gb