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| thumper | kenn: hey | 00:08 |
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| thumper | kenn: ec2 isn't good at giving lxc containers their own ip address | 00:08 |
| thumper | it is potentially a good idea when we can get ec2 to play nice with the lxc containers | 00:08 |
| thumper | but this isn't there yet | 00:08 |
| kenn | thumper: well, theoretically I don't need the LXC containers to have a public IP, as everything currently runs through an nginx proxy anyway. | 00:10 |
| kenn | thumper: but, if EC2 instances are not capable of running several LXCs anyway, then I guess I'll have to figure something else out | 00:11 |
| thumper | kenn: they can... if the nginx proxy is on the same machine as the lxc containers, it may work | 00:31 |
| thumper | kenn: it is all about the networking | 00:31 |
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| kenn | thumper: I'd like to play around with it, how do I add an LXC to an EC2 instance, or even a local LXC? | 01:48 |
| thumper | kenn: juju will not allow it (or it shouldn't or won't once we hook everything up) | 01:48 |
| thumper | you can try: juju add-machine lxc:1 | 01:49 |
| kenn | thumper: ah ok, so currently this is not implemented? | 01:49 |
| thumper | I think that tries to create an lxc container on machine 1 | 01:49 |
| kenn | ok, let me try that :) | 01:49 |
| thumper | kenn: it is implemented but specifically disallowed on ec2 because it doesn't talk right | 01:49 |
| thumper | failing that, | 01:49 |
| thumper | you end up using the lxc commands directly | 01:49 |
| thumper | sudo lxc-create -n some-name -t ubuntu-cloud | 01:50 |
| thumper | etc | 01:50 |
| kenn | haha no I will not be doing the latter :) | 01:50 |
| kenn | thumper: adding the LXC to a running machine seemed to work. It added something anyway. Though if it doesn't work on EC2 then I think I'll solve the problem in a different way | 01:54 |
| thumper | you can the go: juju deploy ubuntu --to 1/lxc/0 | 01:54 |
| thumper | and then : juju ssh ubuntu/0 | 01:54 |
| thumper | if that is the first one | 01:54 |
| kenn | I was just about to google that | 01:54 |
| kenn | hang on, I have to deploy ubuntu? | 01:55 |
| thumper | not exactly | 01:55 |
| thumper | but kinda | 01:55 |
| thumper | due to the way that addressing isn't properly hooked up yet | 01:55 |
| kenn | ok, so sub-lxcs are kind of sort of experimental then? | 01:55 |
| thumper | it is the only way to get the ip address shown in juju status | 01:56 |
| thumper | kenn: they work on maas, but not on other providers yet | 01:56 |
| thumper | as we need to hook up the networking | 01:56 |
| kenn | right, gotcha | 01:56 |
| kenn | thanks for the help though | 01:56 |
| thumper | np | 01:56 |
| kenn | thumper: as a side note, while I have the attention of a juju developer: I absolutely love the design you guys have come up with. In my previous job I did Chef on RightScale and that was such a nightmare compared to this | 01:58 |
| thumper | thanks | 01:58 |
| kenn | so, good job! | 01:58 |
| thumper | I've only been on it since the start of the year | 01:58 |
| thumper | so can't take the real credit | 01:59 |
| thumper | but I do like it too | 01:59 |
| thumper | I'll pass it on | 01:59 |
| thumper | glad you're enjoying it | 01:59 |
| kenn | please do | 01:59 |
| kenn | I'm having trouble working with my local environment. Starting a new machine doesn't create a log for that machine, and deploying services shows up in watch, but stays pending | 04:31 |
| kenn | I've tried destroying and bootstrapping my environment several times, including system restart. I've also manually killed a few LXC containers left over with lxc-destroy | 04:32 |
| kenn | during environment bootstrap I get the following error in the log: | 04:32 |
| kenn | 2013-10-04 04:29:58 ERROR juju apiclient.go:111 state/api: websocket.Dial wss://localhost:17070/: dial tcp 127.0.0.1:17070: connection refused | 04:32 |
| kenn | any ideas? | 04:32 |
| kenn | juju version: 1.14.1-quantal-amd64 | 04:32 |
| davecheney | kenn: that means bootstrapping didn't work | 04:36 |
| davecheney | kenn: do you have the right version of mongodb installed ? | 04:36 |
| kenn | db version v2.2.4, pdfile version 4.5 | 04:37 |
| kenn | according to APT, that's the right version | 04:38 |
| davecheney | ok, that is ood | 04:39 |
| davecheney | that is the usual stumbling block | 04:39 |
| davecheney | kenn: can your latop talk to the internet without a proxy ? | 04:39 |
| davecheney | s/laptop/machine | 04:39 |
| kenn | yes, I don't have a proxy | 04:40 |
| kenn | I tried reinstalling juju and mongo via apt and also cleared all mongo's data. Still no luck, same error | 04:47 |
| davecheney | kenn: we don't use the mongodb that the ackage provides | 04:49 |
| davecheney | we start our own | 04:49 |
| davecheney | can you please try (not sure if this will give results) | 04:49 |
| davecheney | juju bootstrap --debug | 04:49 |
| kenn | two logs here: http://pastebin.com/ShCQVYYC (terminal output) and http://pastebin.com/QMfC16PU (machine-0.log) | 04:54 |
| kenn | davecheney: ^^ | 04:54 |
| davecheney | kenn: that looks fine | 04:55 |
| davecheney | what is the issue you see | 04:55 |
| kenn | machine-0.log: 2013-10-04 04:52:00 ERROR juju apiclient.go:111 state/api: websocket.Dial wss://localhost:17070/: dial tcp 127.0.0.1:17070: connection refused | 04:56 |
| davecheney | yeah, that happens | 04:56 |
| davecheney | it's just part of the startup dance | 04:56 |
| kenn | ok, when I to add-machine a machine is created, but no log file is created. When I then add a service (like mysql) to that machine, the service appears in juju stat as pending, no log file is created, and that's how it stays | 04:59 |
| kenn | ok, it finally created the log file which states the install hook has been queued. No change for a few minutes though | 05:07 |
| davecheney | the logs should all be in ~/.juju/local/something something/log | 05:11 |
| davecheney | alongside wher eyou found machine-0 | 05:11 |
| davecheney | if they are not | 05:11 |
| davecheney | machine-0.log will have the details on what happened | 05:11 |
| kenn | they aren't there, let me check machine-0 | 05:12 |
| kenn | no errors in machine-0.log as far as I can tell | 05:13 |
| davecheney | can you make machine-0.log available | 05:18 |
| davecheney | kenn, did you use sudo to bootstrap ? | 05:18 |
| kenn | davecheney: the machine-0.log is the one I posted here http://pastebin.com/QMfC16PU, and yes I used sudo for the bootstrap | 05:20 |
| kenn | let me post one after starting machines and stuff | 05:21 |
| kenn | davecheney: this is machine-0.log after trying to deploy mysql and starting a second machine: http://pastebin.com/4Pf1DgdP | 05:22 |
| kenn | I should note that I downgraded juju to see if that would fix it | 05:22 |
| davecheney | kenn: ok, it looks lke juju asked lxc to start two machines | 05:26 |
| davecheney | but they never started | 05:27 |
| kenn | ok | 05:27 |
| davecheney | anything in dmesg | 05:27 |
| davecheney | or /var/log/syslog | 05:27 |
| davecheney | btw, which OS are you using ? | 05:27 |
| davecheney | local providers is only known to work on raring or later | 05:28 |
| davecheney | also, what is your net connection doing ? | 05:28 |
| davecheney | there could be a large lxc related download going on | 05:28 |
| kenn | I'm on ubuntu quantal. What am I looking for in dmesg and syslog? I'll check my connection | 05:29 |
| davecheney | lxc is doing a version of debootstrap for every machine you start | 05:30 |
| davecheney | so that could explain a delay | 05:30 |
| davecheney | or it could just be broken | 05:30 |
| kenn | hmm, I do appear to downloading quite a lot of stuff from zaurac.canonical.com | 05:32 |
| kenn | ok you know what, I've probably just been incredibly impatient | 05:33 |
| davecheney | np, that has as solution | 05:33 |
| davecheney | and isn't typically a bug :) | 05:33 |
| davecheney | i *think* once lxc has done it's dance the fist time | 05:33 |
| davecheney | it will cache the results | 05:34 |
| kenn | the mysql server has installed and started, and it would appear my local charm is now installing | 05:34 |
| davecheney | so this is a one time cost | 05:34 |
| kenn | ok, sorry about the fuss man, it's just usually so damn instant! | 05:34 |
| kenn | I will be more patient next time :) | 05:35 |
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| kenn | Is there a place where I can find a list of all the juju api commands? Like open-port and config-get. I can't find it in the docs. | 06:46 |
| kenn | Secondary question, what the best way to get the IP of the box my service is being deployed to? Internal IP is fine. | 06:50 |
| davecheney | kenn: second answer first | 07:01 |
| davecheney | unit-get private-address | 07:01 |
| davecheney | unit-get public-address | 07:01 |
| davecheney | etc | 07:01 |
| davecheney | kenn: first answer | 07:02 |
| davecheney | https://juju.ubuntu.com/docs/authors-charm-anatomy.html | 07:02 |
| davecheney | grep for "Hook commands for working with relations" | 07:02 |
| kenn | davecheney: awesome, thanks, for both. Is there a more complete list somewhere? I'm ok with digging around source code if need be | 07:14 |
| gnuoy | morning I seem to have a wedged maas environment. If I try and do destroy-environment I get "error: gomaasapi: got error back from server: 409 CONFLICT" and if I try and bootstrap I get "error: environment is already bootstrapped" | 08:23 |
| gnuoy | any ideas ? | 08:23 |
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| AskUbuntu | how to reproduce an existing environment in juju? | http://askubuntu.com/q/353524 | 08:58 |
| gnuoy | Ok, I had a node that was stuck in the commissioning state which I think juju may have believed was the bootstrap node. Now, thats cleared I was able to destroy-environment | 09:21 |
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| marcoceppi | gnuoy: interesting, I wonder if you run those commands with -v or --debug (or both) if you'd get the actual error from MAAS other than just 409 (which maas uses quite a bit) | 10:14 |
| gnuoy | marcoceppi, I got no additional info I don't think. Let me see if I have it in my history | 10:15 |
| gnuoy | no, can't find it I'm afraid | 10:20 |
| stub | $ sudo juju bootstrap | 10:51 |
| stub | error: net: no such interface | 10:51 |
| stub | I've busted something yesterday and no idea what. | 10:52 |
| marcoceppi | stub: I think it's the interface for local provider | 10:55 |
| stub | Yeah, I have 'lxc.network.link = lxcbr0' in lxc/default.conf, but that interface no longer exists :-/ | 10:56 |
| marcoceppi | stub: Try re-installing lxc | 11:11 |
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| marcoceppi | hazmat: adam_g: is there any way to tell deployer that a service should be exposed? or does that need to happen outside of deployer? | 11:48 |
| oatman | anyone know what I get "error: cannot create log collection" when I run `sudo juju bootstrap` ? | 11:56 |
| oatman | it seems to have stopped working since I rebooted | 11:56 |
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| melmoth | hola ! | 12:38 |
| melmoth | Whatever the service i deploy (provider openstack, grizzly), the service end up with https://pastebin.canonical.com/98533/ | 12:38 |
| melmoth | twisted internal error. | 12:38 |
| melmoth | this is with juju py (there s currently a problem with juju-core on openstrack provider) | 12:39 |
| melmoth | any idea what i could do about this ? | 12:39 |
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| marcoceppi | melmoth: not really sure what's going on in the log, it's hard to say | 12:47 |
| melmoth | indeed. | 12:47 |
| melmoth | but it does look like a twisted error... so i guess it s something specific to pyjuju. | 12:47 |
| melmoth | and it seems to occur even before the install hook is fired. | 12:47 |
| marcoceppi | melmoth: well it's actually getting a 500 error to whatever it seems to be trying to do | 12:47 |
| marcoceppi | twisted is just the API that juju < 1.0 uses for communication with various API endpoints in the providers | 12:48 |
| marcoceppi | it's an async framework | 12:48 |
| marcoceppi | oatman: you still having bootstrap problems? | 12:48 |
| oatman | marcoceppi, yes I am, I've restarted a few times to no avail | 12:49 |
| oatman | wait | 12:49 |
| oatman | wtf it's now working | 12:49 |
| oatman | does destory environment sometimes not destroy it right? | 12:49 |
| marcoceppi | oatman: so with the local provider, it attempts to put logs in ~/.juju/local/log (or if you've named the environment something other than local, replace "local" with that name) | 12:50 |
| oatman | ah | 12:50 |
| marcoceppi | oatman: what version of juju are you on? 1.14.1? | 12:50 |
| oatman | 1.14.1-raring-amd64 | 12:50 |
| marcoceppi | destroy-environment should work as expected | 12:51 |
| oatman | I suspect I'll have it again, I'll be sure to come here when I do | 12:51 |
| oatman | I'll try and isolate it first | 12:51 |
| marcoceppi | oatman: when runing bootstrap and getting those errors, run bootstrap with -v and --debug flags to give us a little more insight | 12:52 |
| oatman | will do | 12:52 |
| marcoceppi | might also help you pinpoint what's going on | 12:52 |
| oatman | here's my script that I'm running to rebuild my env: | 12:53 |
| oatman | sudo juju destroy-environment -y && | 12:53 |
| oatman | sudo juju bootstrap -v --debug | 12:53 |
| oatman | juju deploy mysql && | 12:53 |
| oatman | juju expose mysql && | 12:53 |
| marcoceppi | yeah, that looks fine | 12:53 |
| oatman | cool | 12:53 |
| oatman | I'll keep on going | 12:54 |
| oatman | I'm very impressed with juju otherwise, honest! | 12:54 |
| marcoceppi | you might want to sleep a few seconds between destroy and bootstrap, just for good measure | 12:54 |
| oatman | ah, ok | 12:54 |
| marcoceppi | otherwise that should work | 12:54 |
| oatman | I'll add that just to be safe | 12:54 |
| marcoceppi | on "other" providers, that's not a problem, but local it might be trying to bootstrap too soon after a destroy | 12:54 |
| oatman | I see | 12:56 |
| oatman | that makes sense | 12:56 |
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| kentb | so if we are discouraging the use of "deploy --to X" in favor of containerization, how soon will the containerization support be available? I certainly like the idea rather than using "--to" | 13:19 |
| * kentb errand then dell lab | 13:37 | |
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| Makyo | jamespage, I received a question about deploying openstack, is there a bundle I can point them to? | 15:01 |
| jcastro | marcoceppi: 20 minute warning! | 16:34 |
| marcoceppi | jcastro: ack! | 16:34 |
| jamespage | Makyo, not yet | 16:40 |
| marcoceppi | jcastro: you going to fire it up? | 16:41 |
| Makyo | jamespage, alright, thanks. | 16:43 |
| jamespage | Makyo, I will get to it honest - we have a juju-deployer configuration we are using for testing charm work but it points to all our inflight branches | 16:44 |
| jcastro | marcoceppi: yeah in ~6 minutes | 16:44 |
| marcoceppi | jcastro: ack | 16:44 |
| Makyo | jamespage, no problem, sounds good. Just had someone asking if I could prove that the openstack deployment from the vid worked, figured that'd be easiest. | 16:48 |
| jcastro | marcoceppi: https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/67513881e518abb07e2d4cc3d79041dac96648b9?authuser=0&hl=en | 16:53 |
| jcastro | . /usr/bin/byobu-reconnect-sockets | 16:57 |
| jcastro | Ok we're having a charm school on Amulet starting nowish! | 16:59 |
| jcastro | http://ubuntuonair.com if you wanna follow along. | 16:59 |
| FilipeCifali | Oh nice | 17:16 |
| FilipeCifali | my client is trolling me | 17:17 |
| FilipeCifali | brb | 17:17 |
| marcoceppi | jcastro: 1.0.1 uploaded to ppa | 17:46 |
| marcoceppi | jamespage: got a second? I'm trying to patch a huge glaring flaw in the charm-tools package, I can get the source from the ppa, but I noticed in Saucy you made a few fixes. If I bzr branch lp:ubuntu/saucy/charm-tools I get 0.3 source. What should I do to get 1.0.0 so I can patch the packaging? | 17:47 |
| jamespage | marcoceppi, pull-lp-source charm-tools | 17:50 |
| marcoceppi | jamespage: i'm on raring, anything else to get the saucy version? | 17:50 |
| jamespage | marcoceppi, no | 17:50 |
| marcoceppi | jamespage: awesome, thanks. On a slightly related note, I need to submit a new version of the packaging for charm-tools in saucy | 17:51 |
| jcastro | marcoceppi: don't forget to respond to the list wrt. the autogenerating interface docs stuff | 17:53 |
| marcoceppi | jcastro: ack | 17:53 |
| jamespage | marcoceppi, whats the bug? | 17:55 |
| jamespage | if you want to fix it in saucy please raise a task for ubuntu as well | 17:55 |
| marcoceppi | jamespage: https://bugs.launchpad.net/charm-tools/+bug/1231441 | 17:56 |
| _mup_ | Bug #1231441: python-markdown missing in the deb packacge's dependencies <Juju Charm Tools:In Progress by marcoceppi> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1231441> | 17:56 |
| marcoceppi | jamespage: so I fixed it in the source, added a new incremental update, and built the source (and just built the package and installed in a clean lxc container), I'm about to push to the PPA | 17:56 |
| * marcoceppi needs to read on raising task for ubuntu | 17:56 | |
| jamespage | marcoceppi, I've been trying to push to the distro first - could you push it to a personal PPA | 17:57 |
| jamespage | then I can pull from there and update the distro + backport | 17:57 |
| marcoceppi | jamespage: can do | 17:57 |
| jamespage | marcoceppi, I raised the task for Ubuntu - remember to reference it in the changelog | 17:57 |
| marcoceppi | jamespage: reference the bug? | 17:58 |
| jamespage | (LP: #1231441) - that was the bug will be closed once it gets accepted into distro | 17:58 |
| _mup_ | Bug #1231441: python-markdown missing in the deb packacge's dependencies <Juju Charm Tools:In Progress by marcoceppi> <charm-tools (Ubuntu):New> <charm-tools (Ubuntu Saucy):New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1231441> | 17:58 |
| jamespage | fwiw I'd probably have just fixed that in packaging now that we are so close to releae | 17:59 |
| marcoceppi | jamespage: when I set the release to saucy in the changelog, and go to build source it says release not found? | 18:00 |
| marcoceppi | E: charm-tools changes: bad-distribution-in-changes-file saucy | 18:00 |
| marcoceppi | safe to ignore? | 18:00 |
| jamespage | yep | 18:03 |
| marcoceppi | jamespage: uploaded to ppa:juju/stable | 18:03 |
| jamespage | marcoceppi, urgh - how are you managing to put the same version in for all releases | 18:04 |
| jamespage | thats generally a bad idea | 18:04 |
| marcoceppi | jamespage: uhh, I don't know | 18:04 |
| marcoceppi | rather, I'm really not sure what I just broke | 18:04 |
| marcoceppi | Sadly, I've just been following the internet as best I can | 18:06 |
| jamespage | marcoceppi, best to ask | 18:06 |
| jamespage | marcoceppi, the problem is that the version you just uploaded to PPA is exactly the same version I have to upload to saucy | 18:07 |
| jamespage | note the use of ~ version on the other packages in the PPA | 18:07 |
| marcoceppi | jamespage: oh, I didn't realize that would cause an issue | 18:07 |
| marcoceppi | jamespage: is there a guide that describes how to best manage packages in ppas? | 18:08 |
| jamespage | marcoceppi, not really | 18:09 |
| jamespage | marcoceppi, I normally prepare my distro upload then use backportpackage to prepare uploads for PPA | 18:09 |
| jamespage | that way the distro is always the preference over PPA | 18:09 |
| jamespage | marcoceppi, I uploaded that to saucy | 18:10 |
| marcoceppi | jamespage: okay, I think I grasp that. So it'd be do everything I've done up to this point, then run backportpackage to create a backport for each release and put those in ppa? | 18:10 |
| jamespage | yep | 18:10 |
| marcoceppi | jamespage: thanks, hope that didn't create too much of a kerfuffle | 18:10 |
| marcoceppi | jamespage: I'll prepare my releases for tools using that method going forward! | 18:10 |
| jamespage | marcoceppi, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6193324/ | 18:11 |
| jamespage | thats what I run once I've uploaded a juju-core stable release to distro | 18:11 |
| marcoceppi | jamespage: awesome, thank you sir! | 18:11 |
| jamespage | the script can either pull a package | 18:11 |
| jamespage | or use the dsc locally | 18:11 |
| marcoceppi | jamespage: if I do that right now for charm-tools am I going to hurt anything? | 18:12 |
| marcoceppi | jamespage: I've been using the copy package link to create releases in other versions of ubuntu for the ppa, to answer your "how are you managing" question | 18:13 |
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| rektide | is there any media outpost that links stuff such as people's juju blog posts and projects? looking for a kind of street view, hack-a-day coverage of the wider world? | 18:43 |
| marcoceppi | rektide: we have this: https://juju.ubuntu.com/community/blog/ which agregates a few juju charmers blogs | 18:45 |
| rektide | i'm familiar with the planet schema. it's great hearing from direct authors, for sure. | 18:49 |
| rektide | i like being able to venture out to the slightly further removed too, which is harder | 18:50 |
| rektide | that's a more critical evaluation than i'm comfortable making, please lend me your support in venturing there | 18:51 |
| rektide | (i'm remarkably happy with that phrasing asking forebearance. so much better than an apology.) | 18:52 |
| marcoceppi | rektide: Outside of that, I suppose Google would be best, Google for juju and ubuntu and see what people are doing. If you're intersted in see changes to charms being made we have http://manage.jujucharms.com/recently-changed | 19:22 |
| rektide | haven't been attending my blogroll as much these past couple weeks- i'd missed the GUI inspector. super awesome! http://www.jorgecastro.org/2013/09/19/here-comes-the-juju-gui-inspector/ | 19:34 |
| marcoceppi | rektide: yeah, the GUI is really turning in to this awesome piece of Juju UX | 19:52 |
| marcoceppi | I mean, it was already pretty awesome, they set the bar pretty high IMO | 19:52 |
| rektide | ++ | 19:52 |
| Nik_ | Hi. I'm not able to get anyone on #maas channel to hep with the issue I'm having. Is anyone experienced with maas available? | 20:03 |
| marcoceppi | Nik_: we an certainly try to help you. Are you using juju with maas? | 20:03 |
| Nik_ | yes. though it's a maas tags related issue | 20:04 |
| Nik_ | I'm trying to tag nodes that have 4 or more disks | 20:04 |
| Nik_ | the rule is | 20:04 |
| Nik_ | "definition": "count(//node[starts-with(@id,\"disk\") and @class=\"disk\"]) >= 4", | 20:04 |
| Nik_ | so some machines get tagged | 20:05 |
| Nik_ | but some don't | 20:05 |
| Nik_ | and I verify againt lshw output on one of the machines that don't get tagged | 20:05 |
| Nik_ | xmlstarlet sel -T -t -v 'count(//node[starts-with(@id,"disk") and @class="disk"]) >= 4' /tmp/lshw.xml | 20:05 |
| Nik_ | that outputs "true" | 20:05 |
| Nik_ | so all seems in order, but I'm not sure what approach to take to debug it | 20:05 |
| marcoceppi | oh boy, this is way above my head sadly | 20:06 |
| Nik_ | well thanks for trying. maybe someone comes around and has an answer :) | 20:06 |
| marcoceppi | Nik_: you can try asking on http://askubuntu.com with the MAAS tag, it'll at least show up in the MAAS channel and the question will persist | 20:08 |
| Nik_ | thanks maroceppi. I'll try that if I don't get anything | 20:09 |
| marcoceppi | Nik_: cheers and good luck! | 20:10 |
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