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skreech__What's L2tp ?03:31
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ymHow can i upgrade to new KDE4.1107:01
ymmy system is kubuntu12.0407:01
skreech__ym: It's on www.kubuntu.org07:19
skreech__http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-sc-4.1107:19
excognachi all. What is better for upgrade from 12.04to 13.04: live-dvd or Konsole? any serious issues with either way?07:49
hateballexcognac: well you're going to go 12.04-12.10-13.04, unless you want to risk breaking things07:58
hateballPersonally I get faster read speeds from the internet than I do from physical media, so I opt for that :)07:59
excognachateball, thanks bro. i'll do that.08:02
skreech__excognac: What's your hard drive setup?08:05
excognacskreech__: it's a laptop with separate system and data and win7 partitions. partition manager can't really see these as partitions were recently rescued/rep[aired with testdisk08:07
skreech__excognac: you saved the data?08:08
excognacskreech__: you mean testdisk log?08:08
skreech__ha ha Ok I guess I mean to ask are you fine with the system being reinstalled/upgraded in the current state. You are not going to lose anything?08:09
excognacskreech__: nope, i won't. all my data is backed up.08:15
skreech__alright well if you have some time you can upgrade from Konsole it's the way to keep things intact but takes a lot of time.08:16
skreech__Live DVD is almost the same amount of time for a singular upgrade but across multiple updates I'm not sure how well it turns out in terms of time. Of course if you are doing this across a couple of computers (same house, for school or friends) the DVD works out in terms of time08:17
excognaci'd prefer to use konsole instead of muon or so.08:17
skreech__Yeah me too08:18
skreech__but in terms of speed and being fairly clean when you are done a reinstall works out best but that's only nice if you have a /home partition08:18
excognaci do have it. so sudo do-release-upgrade will upgrade first to 12.10 then, right?08:26
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skreech__Yes :)08:50
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BluesKajhowdy all11:00
Gargoyle1976I'm having issues with my usb ports.  Power but no recognition of devices.12:23
Gargoyle1976Any thoughts?12:24
chachanGargoyle1976, any device?12:35
bootkillerGargoyle1976, had the same issue a few days, unplugging and reconnecting all devices did the trick.12:39
Gargoyle1976bootkiller: tried that.  No dice.  It is my mouse.  The only change I've had in the last week is I had to change out my video card.  But I wouldn't think that would affect the usb...12:50
Gargoyle1976bootkiller: I'm using a ps2 mounse now...but I tried other devices and they aren't recognized...just powered12:50
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Gargoyle1976BluesKaj: Greetings.  remember trying to help me with my usb problem?13:59
BluesKajhi Gargoyle1976 , yes , how's it going ?14:01
Gargoyle1976BluesKaj: Not good.  Apparently my usb is providing power but no data.  Won't detect anything connected to it.  Was working fine before video card change out.  Stumped14:02
BluesKajGargoyle1976, could you expalin your situation again ?, my memory needs refreshing14:04
BluesKajerr explain14:04
BluesKajGargoyle1976, so you installed new graphics driver for the new graphics card and now you don't have  ?14:07
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Gargoyle1976BluesKaj:Graphics card crapped out(memory); Got new card(both nVidia); now usb giving issues;  Thought it was just mouse but discovered the usb won't recognize anything14:20
Gargoyle1976BluesKaj: Power is supplied but no data...strange14:20
BluesKajGargoyle1976, did you lsusb in the terminal ?14:21
Gargoyle1976BluesKaj: Yeah...when the mouse is plugged in it sees it but can't communicate.  I plugged in my phone and it got power but it couldn't see it.  tried another phone still no recognition14:22
BluesKajGargoyle1976, have you updated / upgraded lately?14:23
Gargoyle1976BluesKaj: I try to keep updated regularly.  Check at least once a week.  If not more14:24
Gargoyle1976BluesKaj: Just checked...got some updating to get current.  Will check back if still problems  thanks14:27
Gargoyle1976BluesKaj: Back later14:27
BluesKajGargoyle1976, always run updates and upgrades after installing new hardware even if you installed new driver and rebooted14:27
flareubuntu espaƱol?14:44
flarehow to install private drivers in ubuntu 13.0414:45
BluesKaj!es > flare14:45
ubottuflare, please see my private message14:45
BluesKajflare, this kubuntu support not ubuntu14:46
flareok thanks a lot14:47
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geniiHm.17:48
DrowKirothhello all17:53
DrowKiroth I need some help I am new to Kubuntu17:53
DrowKirothI am trying to get sfml 2.1 working on Kubuntu and need to install some othe packages but cant seem to find them17:53
DrowKiroth I do not have a ton of experience on linux but want to use it more17:54
vadraoHi all, I have a latest touch based windows 8 device. I would like to install and test Plasma active. I would like to know how I can go abou doing that. I am running the latest Kubuntu now.17:54
DrowKiroth the first package is pthread17:55
vadraoDrowKiroth: Are you trying to install it from the package manager? or other method?17:55
DrowKirotheither way17:57
DrowKiroth I have tried the software manager and couldnt find it in there and17:58
DrowKirothcant seem to find the right source online17:58
DrowKiroth pppppp17:58
DrowKirothignore the p's17:59
vadraoJust search for "sfl" in Muon Package manager18:00
vadraoI think, the name of the package is "python-sfml"18:00
vadraoThen you can just install it and check it out18:00
DrowKirothI am trying to use it with c and C++ as well as opengl also sfl just brought up sflphone18:01
DrowKirothhttp://www.sfml-dev.org/tutorials/2.1/compile-with-cmake.php18:02
DrowKiroththat is the sfml instructions that I am trying to run off of18:02
DrowKirothvadro I also appreciate the help by the ay18:03
DrowKiroth*way18:05
geniiThe repo version is still 1.6, there is a PPA with 2.0.0 but it was last updated Jan 14th18:05
DaskreechDrowKiroth: You can search here or on http://packages.ubuntu.com for the name of any command or package name you need18:05
Daskreechvadrao: Plasma active?18:06
vadraoDaskreech: Yes18:06
vadraoDaskreech: I would like to test the latest and the greatest as I have a touch screen device18:07
Daskreechhttp://community.kde.org/Plasma/Active/Installation18:07
Daskreech!info python-sfml18:07
ubottupython-sfml (source: python-sfml): Simple and Fast multimedia library - Python Bindings. In component universe, is extra. Version 1.5-2build2 (raring), package size 60 kB, installed size 224 kB18:07
vadraoDaskreech: I was hoping for something like a ppa so that I can test it with my current installation of Kubuntu?18:11
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Daskreechclaydoh: ping18:14
claydohDaskreech:  pong!18:15
Daskreechclaydoh: Is there a KA PPA?18:15
claydohhmm18:15
* claydoh looks18:15
Daskreechother than the daily live image?18:15
claydohDaskreech: https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-active/+archive/ppa/+packages18:18
claydohnot sure how complete it is, have not used it myself18:18
DrowKirothso sorry to sound stupid but I have to ask anyways when I go and search the database for packages it comes up with a bunch of different ones should I just take the first one? Once again I am sorry for being a ubuntu noob?  the package I am looking at right now is pthreads18:30
BluesKajDrowKiroth, open muon and search there18:30
vadraoDrowKiroth: There are two ways you can install software on linux based computers. 1) Download the software, compile and install it. This is the way you are trying to install it now. 2) Install it directly from the package manager. Like the Muon Package manager. The package manager takes care of all the dependencies for you. So you do not need to install each software package seperately.18:33
vadraoI recommend the second way.18:33
vadraoSo do many folks down in here18:33
DrowKirothI have no problem ith doing it the second way18:33
DrowKiroth*with I like easy but sfml dosent come  up in the muno package manager18:34
DrowKirothI apologize to you guys for being retarted18:35
BluesKajDrowKiroth, what exactly are you trying to install ?18:36
DrowKirothsfml is a software library for development18:36
DrowKirothit is simliar to glut18:36
DrowKirothor anyother api that you might use when using opengl to make graphics application18:37
DrowKirothhttp://www.sfml-dev.org/tutorials/2.1/compile-with-cmake.php18:37
vadraoDrowKiroth: From this link http://www.sfml-dev.org/tutorials/2.1/start-linux.php18:37
vadraoI think you need to install the package called "libsfml-dev" from Muon Package manager18:38
BluesKajDrowKiroth, libsmfl-dev18:38
BluesKajit's in muon18:39
vadraoAlternatively just type the command in Konsole (a terminal program) "sudo apt-get install libsfml-dev"18:39
BluesKajerr libsfml-dev18:40
DrowKiroththank you all18:42
DrowKirothsorry to frustrate you Blueskaj18:43
BluesKajno frusrtration , i'm patient :)18:43
vadraoDrowKiroth: So, did it work? :)18:44
DrowKirothYes it installed18:44
DrowKirothbut Now I need to double check some settings on my project and make sure that it knows where the libraries are18:44
vadraoJust keep trying. You will get it. If you are stuck, then you know where to knock :)18:45
DrowKiroth Thanks guys18:45
DrowKirothHey vadro, by default where would I find the lib files Iif I did the install through the terminal19:09
ka_HM. I seem to not be able to log in after upgrade to 13.10. I get to te login screen. But only get kicked back to the login screen when I try to log in...19:13
geniika_: The first suspect in these cases is the permissions in your home directory. Try when at login ctrl-alt-F1 to gain console and login there. It can either log you in OK or else give you a more informative message about the problem. If you can login then I suggest: sudo chown -R yourusername: /home/yourusername     and then alt-F7 back to login and see if it's fixed19:21
ka_Thanks I ll check19:33
DrowKirothwhere are packages installed by default19:34
ka_HM I triied startx one last time and I got in! But it still won't work through regular loginmanager19:35
ka_I suspect I found the culprit. I had installed KDM in 1304 and this seems to not go so well when upgarding (maybe it is deprecated in some way)19:38
ka_Jepp uninstalling kdm did the trick. Argh that was  1 hour wasted...19:39
vadraoDrowKiroth: Do you know the exact name of the file you are looking for?19:40
DrowKirothI just found it I was expecting a directory but they didnt end up there19:40
vadraoDrowKiroth: You can search for that directory19:42
vadraoFor example, go to your root directory, and run a command like this. find . -name "Somethingyouwanttofind"19:44
vadraosudo find . -name "etc"19:45
vadraoThat would search for a folder called etc, and all the other files containing the name etc.19:45
mikolahello20:07
geniiHm.20:08
rodnicelol20:10
rodniceI have a widgets question.20:10
BluesKajrodnice, ok ask your question20:12
rodniceAre widgets like a desktop version of apps?20:12
rodniceJust starting using Linux (Kubuntu 13) and I don't get the concept of widgets20:13
BluesKaj!applets20:13
ubottuTo add useful applets to your panel, right click on the panel and choose "Add applet"20:13
rodniceWhen I saw Windows Vista have them, I thought they seemed gimicky.  A clock widget?20:13
BluesKaj!widgets20:14
rodniceis that a command?20:14
BluesKaj!plasma20:14
rodnicesorry, I'm not a Linux vet20:14
BluesKajrodnice,it's to invoke out infobot20:14
BluesKajour20:14
rodniceso where do I type that?20:15
rodnice!plasma20:15
rodnicehm20:15
BluesKajdo you see the small cashew like icon on the far right of the panel , click on it then add widgets , they are small programs that can be used in the panel20:17
BluesKajrodnice, ^20:17
rodnicewhy would someone want to use widgets?20:17
geniiIf you want a widget on the screen... rightclick on the screen without any apps open, choose Add Widgets   then drag one from the bar that comes up out onto the screen.20:18
geniirodnice: Some of them have useful info to display, like cpu temperature20:19
rodniceOK, I guess that would be useful20:19
rodnicegenii: what about something like a desktop clock? would not that be redundant?20:20
rodnice:-(20:24
geniirodnice: It all depends on user preference. some like just the panel clock, some like just a clock on their desktop, some like both or nonw.20:24
genii*none20:24
rodniceOK. So I guess it's just me then.  Fair enough.20:25
rodniceAnother question...20:25
rodniceKubuntu 13... when I installed it, I saw a transparent window in the top right quadrant of the screen. I thought it was clutter so I removed it.  What was its purpose?20:26
geniirodnice: Files that you put in /home/your-username  would normally appear in there20:29
rodnicegenii: It seemed frivilous. Does that make a better system experience for some users?20:31
geniirodnice: It makes it handy for some to easily get to files without opening a file manager immediately, so yes20:32
BluesKajrodnice, for example using a launcher in the panel with your fav apps there is very handy20:36
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rodniceyes20:42
rodniceBut what if I like a desktop full of stuff like icons?20:42
rodniceis my thinking not compatible for how Kubuntu is set up?20:42
rodnicegenii: Thank you for your help. I have to go out into the world to be responsible.  Talk to you later.20:47
geniirodnice: You can add apps to the desktop by rightclick from the main menu and choosing to add them to the desktop20:47
geniiAh, too late.20:47
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kristalSo I can enable/dsable font AA, but I can't find hinting settings...21:01
geniikristal: Have you clicked on the button "Configure" next to the anti-aliasing setting?21:06
kristalgenii: Oh that's weird, you have to enable aa to enable hinting settings21:09
kristalAnd then exclude AA on a fint range, i set it to 0-1521:10
kristalMore powerful and less straightforward than gtk DEs, but the best of both worlds made possible.21:11
kristalqt graphics system native and raster, I don't care about cpu usage, which hits gpu performance less?21:27
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