| === Ursinha is now known as Ursinha-afk | ||
| === Ursinha-afk is now known as Ursinha | ||
| seb128 | happy friday desktopers! | 08:05 |
|---|---|---|
| Laney | hey, happy friday! | 08:06 |
| seb128 | Laney, to you too! | 08:07 |
| seb128 | Laney, we got your grey&rainy weather, I'm not thanking you for that :p | 08:07 |
| Laney | hah | 08:08 |
| Laney | that's what you get for showing off earlier in the week :P | 08:08 |
| seb128 | seems so :/ | 08:08 |
| seb128 | oh, another settings update landing in saucy | 08:08 |
| seb128 | that and the new intel driver | 08:09 |
| seb128 | things start looking good for release ;-) | 08:09 |
| Laney | ship it | 08:09 |
| === sil2100_ is now known as sil2100 | ||
| czajkowski | good morning people | 08:38 |
| czajkowski | how are we all doing | 08:38 |
| seb128 | czajkowski, hey, happy friday! we are doing well indeed ;-) | 08:40 |
| czajkowski | excellent glad to hear it | 08:41 |
| czajkowski | any plans for the weekend ? | 08:41 |
| seb128 | celebrating didrocks getting married | 08:42 |
| seb128 | which involves spending 6 hours in a train to go there tomorrow and then same time to come back on sunday | 08:43 |
| seb128 | that should do for the w.e ;-) | 08:43 |
| seb128 | czajkowski, you? | 08:43 |
| Laney | that is quite some train | 08:45 |
| sil2100 | Morning! Ah, so that's the reason for Didier's holidaying, huh? ;) | 08:45 |
| czajkowski | seb128: dinner with my mum my bf family over the weekend | 08:48 |
| czajkowski | and hanging out, I've had a busy week | 08:48 |
| seb128 | sil2100, good morning, indeed | 08:50 |
| seb128 | Laney, yeah, the line from here to Lyon is a slow one :/ | 08:51 |
| seb128 | oh well, didrocks doesn't get married every week | 08:51 |
| seb128 | and those trains are nice, they have a nice seats, are quiet, have power plugs ... they even have a "bar" wagon with food and drinks | 08:52 |
| seb128 | I guess I'm going to take my laptop and play some good starcraft or something | 08:52 |
| Laney | nice | 08:53 |
| Laney | i'm sure it'll be great! | 08:53 |
| seb128 | ;-) | 08:53 |
| seb128 | pitti vuntz and some others are going to be there, I'm sure it's going to be fun ;-) | 08:54 |
| seb128 | (well not in the train, but for the weeding) | 08:54 |
| Laney | oh noes | 09:11 |
| Laney | something is weird | 09:13 |
| Laney | http://paste.ubuntu.com/6191464/ | 09:13 |
| Laney | oh | 09:13 |
| Laney | is not disabled | 09:13 |
| Laney | weird | 09:13 |
| seb128 | Laney, what is weird? | 09:15 |
| Laney | I misread that message | 09:15 |
| seb128 | oh ok | 09:15 |
| Laney | anyway I restarted my laptop and now shortcut keys don't work | 09:15 |
| seb128 | is the plugin enable? | 09:16 |
| Laney | (not unity) | 09:16 |
| Laney | yes | 09:16 |
| seb128 | shortcut = multimedia keys? | 09:16 |
| Laney | yeah, and e.g. ctrl-alt-t for terminal | 09:16 |
| Laney | volume | 09:16 |
| seb128 | weird, ... do you have anything in the g-s-d log? | 09:17 |
| Laney | oh, didn't they stop doing media keys? | 09:20 |
| Laney | it might have been so long since i rebooted that i was on 3.6 before | 09:20 |
| seb128 | they did, but darkxst reverted that | 09:20 |
| Laney | for unity only | 09:20 |
| seb128 | right | 09:20 |
| Laney | this is panel/xmonad | 09:21 |
| seb128 | gnome-shell handles those keys | 09:21 |
| seb128 | oh | 09:21 |
| Laney | :( | 09:21 |
| seb128 | yeah, you are probably screwed then :/ | 09:21 |
| Laney | darkxst: is that supposed to be broken? | 09:21 |
| Laney | I also get some weird notification bubbles instead of osd now | 09:21 |
| seb128 | we should change the "for unity" to be "for any non-gnome-shell session" | 09:21 |
| mitya57 | +1, I tried to use gnome-panel and got similar issues | 09:22 |
| Laney | hmm, it watches for unity on dbus and turns media keys on then | 09:23 |
| seb128 | right | 09:23 |
| seb128 | it should watch for gnome-shell and turn it off | 09:23 |
| Laney | mitya57: any idea what the notification problem is? | 09:24 |
| seb128 | Laney, what notifications do you get? | 09:24 |
| mitya57 | I haven't yet debugged it, and on a different machine now | 09:24 |
| Laney | been so long since I've seen them but it might be notification-daemon ones | 09:24 |
| Laney | with an 'x' in the top right | 09:24 |
| mitya57 | yes, for me those were notification-daemon ones | 09:25 |
| seb128 | Laney, my bet is that it's due to robru changes in http://launchpadlibrarian.net/124264231/notify-osd_0.9.34-0ubuntu5_0.9.35daily12.11.28-0ubuntu1.diff.gz | 09:25 |
| mitya57 | ... with 'x' and part of the message somewhere outside the screen :) | 09:25 |
| seb128 | +++ notify-osd-0.9.35daily12.11.28/data/org.freedesktop.Notifications.service.in2012-11-28 06:30:35.000000000 +0000 | 09:25 |
| seb128 | @@ -1,3 +1,3 @@ | 09:25 |
| seb128 | [D-BUS Service] | 09:25 |
| seb128 | Name=org.freedesktop.Notifications | 09:25 |
| seb128 | -Exec=/bin/sh -c 'if [ ! -x /usr/lib/notification-daemon/notification-daemon ] || [ "$GDMSESSION" = guest-restricted ] || [ "$GDMSESSION" = gnome-classic-guest-restricted ] [ "$GDMSESSION" = default -a "$(basename `readlink /etc/alternatives/x-session-manager`)" = gnome-session ] || [ "$GDMSESSION" = ubuntu ] || [ "$GDMSESSION" = ubuntu-2d ]; then exec /usr/lib/notify-osd/notify-osd; else exec /usr/lib/notification-daemon/notification-daemon; | 09:25 |
| meetingology | seb128: Error: "@" is not a valid command. | 09:25 |
| seb128 | fi' | 09:25 |
| seb128 | +Exec=@LIBEXECDIR@/notify-osd | 09:25 |
| seb128 | Laney, ^ he dropped our diff when putting the packaging inline upstream | 09:25 |
| Laney | ah | 09:26 |
| seb128 | I saw that a bit back, but since it was not creating apparent issues we decided to not bother (we being didrocks and I, we discussed it on this channel) | 09:26 |
| darkxst | Laney, seb128 media keys are not supposed to be broken | 09:26 |
| seb128 | darkxst, what is supposed to handle them in a xmonad session? | 09:26 |
| seb128 | darkxst, it seems you made the revert specific to unity | 09:27 |
| Laney | darkxst: I don't think panel handles them | 09:27 |
| Laney | so you get broken there | 09:27 |
| darkxst | oh, what is xmonad even? | 09:27 |
| Laney | it's just a window manager | 09:27 |
| Laney | would be the same for metacity i guess | 09:27 |
| darkxst | I can re-do the patch for GNOME instead of Unity | 09:28 |
| Laney | Like invert it? | 09:29 |
| Laney | I don't know if anything else handles the keys atm, but if not that sounds like a good idea | 09:29 |
| darkxst | yeh like check for a GNOME session | 09:29 |
| darkxst | instead | 09:29 |
| * Laney nods | 09:29 | |
| Laney | let me know if you want testing | 09:29 |
| seb128 | rather than checking for unity and enable, check for gnome-shell and disable in that case only? | 09:30 |
| darkxst | seb128, yah | 09:30 |
| darkxst | might still break flashback, but thats generally just broken anyway | 09:30 |
| * Laney tries putting the osd dbus service file back as it was | 09:31 | |
| mitya57 | darkxst: why? | 09:31 |
| mitya57 | (why will it break flashback and why it is broken anyway) | 09:31 |
| darkxst | mitya57, flashback is mostly more like Unity, but it uses the GNOME desktop session name (I believe) | 09:33 |
| mitya57 | darkxst: can you check for some gnome-shell D-Bus interface instead of checking the session name? | 09:34 |
| darkxst | yes but its not reliable, because unity clones some of the gnome-shell d-bus interfaces ;( | 09:35 |
| darkxst | anyway there are lots of patches, across a bunch of packages that check for XDG_CURRENT_DESKTOP | 09:37 |
| darkxst | and in most cases the results will be wrong for flashback | 09:37 |
| mitya57 | we can rename the flashback sessions to ubuntu-* then | 09:38 |
| Laney | ok the notification-daemon thing isn't because of the dbus service file | 09:44 |
| Laney | it's because it's now started via xdg autostart | 09:44 |
| mitya57 | You may then want to add something like this: https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gnome-flashback-list/2013-September/msg00069.html | 09:45 |
| mitya57 | AutostartCondition=GNOME3 unless-session | 09:45 |
| mitya57 | gnome | 09:45 |
| seb128 | Laney, that somewhat makes sense I guess, it makes easier to decide on what desktop it should be activated, compared to dbus activation which has no OnlyShowIn | 09:45 |
| === vrruiz_ is now known as rvr | ||
| Laney | I'd have thought that we always want notify-osd (if installed) on Ubuntu | 09:47 |
| seb128 | "we"? | 09:48 |
| seb128 | KDE and gnome-shell probably don't | 09:48 |
| seb128 | not sure about xfce | 09:48 |
| Laney | don't install it then | 09:48 |
| Laney | indeed they do not | 09:48 |
| Laney | then you should get the correct one dbus activated for you | 09:49 |
| Laney | oh, I see | 09:50 |
| Laney | notification-daemon isn't dbus activated any more | 09:50 |
| mitya57 | there are people who install "vanilla" Ubuntu and then install and use gnome-shell | 09:51 |
| mitya57 | they shouldn't get notify-osd | 09:51 |
| Laney | how do you tell? | 09:52 |
| * mitya57 thinks gnome-shell notifications are better integrated and more consistent with other parts of the shell | 09:54 | |
| Laney | ok, so | 09:56 |
| sil2100 | seb128: can I ask you for some packaging change ACKs? | 09:56 |
| Laney | what's DESKTOP_SESSION under gnome shell? | 09:56 |
| seb128 | sil2100, sure | 09:56 |
| seb128 | Laney, I think the consensus, last time we discussed it on #debian-gnome was that dbus activation was wrong and that the notification agents should all use autostarts rather, so they can target their environment with ShowOnlyIn | 09:58 |
| darkxst | Laney, "gnome" | 09:58 |
| sil2100 | seb128: https://jenkins.qa.ubuntu.com/view/cu2d/view/Saucy/view/Indicators/job/cu2d-indicators-saucy-3.0publish/56/artifact/packaging_changes_indicator-sound_12.10.2+13.10.20131004-0ubuntu1.diff <- this one seems sane | 09:59 |
| seb128 | Laney, e.g the notification are part of the desktop experience | 09:59 |
| sil2100 | seb128: https://jenkins.qa.ubuntu.com/view/cu2d/view/Saucy/view/Indicators/job/cu2d-indicators-saucy-3.0publish/56/artifact/packaging_changes_indicator-bluetooth_0.0.6+13.10.20131004-0ubuntu1.diff <- not sure about the rationale of this one, but on desktop it makes sense I guess | 09:59 |
| seb128 | sil2100, +1 (I acked that mr for upstream ;-) | 09:59 |
| seb128 | sil2100, it was bringing the phone settings on some other images, +1 as well | 09:59 |
| mitya57 | darkxst, Laney: on my Debian machine it was "default" or "gnome" depending on what was selected in gdm, though I'm not sure if it's the case in Ubuntu | 10:00 |
| Laney | I guess if the goal is to have every "gnome" environment having n-daemon then I have to change it locally | 10:03 |
| Laney | It's not an explicit goal though; something changed here to make it start for me now when it didn't before | 10:04 |
| seb128 | Laney, no, I think the goal is to have gnome-shell/kde/(xfce?) uses their own notification system | 10:04 |
| seb128 | Laney, we should use notify-osd is gnome-panel sessions imhp | 10:05 |
| seb128 | imho | 10:05 |
| seb128 | that's our default implementation, if a desktop doesn't specifically specify they want something else | 10:05 |
| seb128 | glatzor, hey | 10:07 |
| seb128 | glatzor, have you seen https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/apturl/+bug/1200775 ? is that an aptdaemon issue/something that changed there which makes port in other code needed? | 10:10 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 1200775 in apturl (Ubuntu) "apturl-gtk crashed with AttributeError in __init__(): 'InstallBackendAptdaemon' object has no attribute 'connect'" [High,Confirmed] | 10:10 |
| darkxst | M3e^tkj8 | 10:14 |
| Laney | doh | 10:14 |
| seb128 | time for a new password ;-) | 10:16 |
| darkxst | seems so, silly lock screen! | 10:17 |
| seb128 | glatzor, unping, that's an update-manager/pitti issue | 10:27 |
| mitya57 | darkxst: re patches in bug 1189309: do you know why the first one was uploaded instead of the second one? | 10:27 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 1189309 in network-manager-applet (Ubuntu) "nm-applet crashed with SIGSEGV in gtk_status_icon_set_visible()" [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1189309 | 10:27 |
| seb128 | glatzor, just for the record, not a pitti issue, he just happened to have uploaded the version, found the right people now and reassigned ;-) | 10:40 |
| cjwatson | I upgraded today and have a black screen (with mouse pointer) when I try to log in. compiz is running, unity-panel-service is running. Any guesses where I could start debugging? | 10:46 |
| cjwatson | Hmm, and gnome-control-center-unity has a greater version in raring-updates than in saucy; don't know if that's directly related but it doesn't seem good | 10:48 |
| seb128 | cjwatson, that's specific to g-c-c, should have an impact on your session | 10:49 |
| cjwatson | YM shouldn't? | 10:49 |
| seb128 | cjwatson, can you share your ~/.cache/upstart/gnome-session.log? | 10:49 |
| seb128 | cjwatson, yes, sorry | 10:49 |
| seb128 | cjwatson, that's just a .so for g-c-c, that's not your issue | 10:49 |
| seb128 | but I'm going to make sure we fix the lower version issue | 10:49 |
| cjwatson | oh, here, now it's started, but it took forever | 10:49 |
| cjwatson | http://paste.ubuntu.com/6191729/ | 10:50 |
| cjwatson | it took at least a couple of minutes to start with no visible feedback | 10:50 |
| seb128 | those WARN 2013-10-04 11:44:19 unity.glib.dbus.server GLibDBusServer.cpp:586 Can't register object 'com.canonical.Unity.Launcher' yet as we don't have a connection, waiting for it... | 10:50 |
| seb128 | are weird | 10:50 |
| seb128 | Trevinho, bregma: ^ did you see that before? | 10:50 |
| seb128 | cjwatson, I wonder if the dbus changes from xnox could create an issue... | 10:51 |
| cjwatson | seb128: I don't have his change yet | 10:51 |
| cjwatson | oh, not his latest one, but I do have a previous one | 10:52 |
| cjwatson | dbus 1.6.12-0ubuntu6 | 10:52 |
| cjwatson | does seem a plausible possibility | 10:52 |
| seb128 | cjwatson, is that reproducible? e.g if you start a guest session? | 10:52 |
| xnox | seb128: well, dbus --fork & expect fork, should only make "started dbus" event be emitted later. so things that e.g. "start on starting dbus" will have invalid dbus_session_bus environment variable, which only starts working after "started dbus" | 10:53 |
| * xnox ponders if we should be exporting dbus_session_bus only at post-start | 10:53 | |
| cjwatson | guest session starts quickly; let me try rebooting | 10:53 |
| cjwatson | well, it sort of starts - I don't have indicators | 10:53 |
| xnox | seb128: that changed fixed unity on the phone.... | 10:54 |
| seb128 | cjwatson, that's a known issue and fixed in lightdm trunk, alt-f2 /usr/lib/unity/unity-panel-service to get them | 10:54 |
| cjwatson | not convinced this is running with the same session type though | 10:54 |
| Laney | I had those messages with previous dbus FWIW | 10:55 |
| seb128 | or start the guest from the greeter rather than from the indicator-session | 10:55 |
| seb128 | Laney, but no hang? | 10:55 |
| Laney | no | 10:55 |
| Laney | dist-upgrading now | 10:55 |
| Laney | new xorg, intel drivers too I suppose | 10:55 |
| seb128 | k, maybe those messages are a red-hearing | 10:56 |
| seb128 | herring | 10:56 |
| * Laney restarts | 10:56 | |
| cjwatson | sigh, this time it worked fine | 10:58 |
| cjwatson | OK, two more reboots and it's still fine, so this doesn't seem reproducible at all. Sorry to bother you | 11:07 |
| * cjwatson will clean up the cause of his accidentally slightly mixed raring/saucy system though | 11:07 | |
| bregma | seb128, I often see that warning during startup, I don't think it means there's a problem | 11:11 |
| seb128 | bregma, right, seemed like it could create delay, but it seems they are happening on systems which don't have delays | 11:14 |
| seb128 | cjwatson, yeah, I don't know, maybe something hit a segfault and apport blocked stuff while processing the issue... | 11:14 |
| === MacSlow is now known as MacSlow|lunch | ||
| Mirv | sil2100: https://code.launchpad.net/~timo-jyrinki/cupstream2distro-config/sdk_add_libthumbnailer0/+merge/189287 | 12:12 |
| sil2100 | Mirv: done! | 12:13 |
| Mirv | sil2100: thanks! | 12:14 |
| === MacSlow|lunch is now known as MacSlow | ||
| Trevinho | seb128: yes, I saw that warning and it's just fine... | 12:49 |
| Trevinho | seb128: the fact is that we ask for the same name in multiple places, the first which arrives takes it | 12:49 |
| Trevinho | seb128: and we need to keep that way since some component are optional | 12:50 |
| Trevinho | seb128: ah, I misread... that's related to object registration... That's fine as well, basically we delay the obj registration on bus until we don't have a valid connection... | 12:51 |
| seb128 | Trevinho, right, thanks | 13:03 |
| Trevinho | seb128: I've a question for you... Have you read around reports of not-working scroll areas (such as gedit or evolution mail composer) with mouse scroll wheel (they work with touchpad!)? | 13:08 |
| seb128 | Trevinho, no I didn't, and I use all day long and didn't notice any issue there | 13:08 |
| Trevinho | seb128: so I'm unlucky.... THat's really weird... No scroll with mouse, but it works with touchpad... and it's the only place | 13:09 |
| Trevinho | seb128: couldn't be due to the usage of smooth scrolling not supported by my device? | 13:09 |
| seb128 | Trevinho, did you try in gtk3-demo? could be in gtk3 textview widgets only? | 13:09 |
| Trevinho | seb128: not yet | 13:10 |
| mterry | attente, what do we need to release the indicator-stack? Is it a manual button push or is there a problem with the autolanding for the stack, like tests failing? | 13:11 |
| seb128 | mterry, you should ask sil2100 and Mirv about landing | 13:11 |
| mterry | sil2100, Mirv: ^ :) | 13:12 |
| sil2100 | mterry: we just did the landing of indicators, does anything else need landing than just the indicators themselves? | 13:12 |
| seb128 | mterry, https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/saucy/+queue?queue_state=1&queue_text=indicator | 13:12 |
| mterry | sil2100, oh, I guess they haven't hit saucy yet | 13:12 |
| seb128 | mterry, I guess you want to nag -release then | 13:12 |
| sil2100 | mterry: yes, they're in the unapproved queue actually | 13:13 |
| Trevinho | seb128: so, it doesn't work in any text widget... but also neither in the gtk3-demo app itself: so I can't scroll on the sidebar, in the source code or in the Info tab | 13:21 |
| Trevinho | seb128: ah, no sorry the sidebar works | 13:22 |
| Trevinho | (not when unfocused, though as it used to be) | 13:22 |
| seb128 | Trevinho, is that only under unity? | 13:22 |
| Trevinho | seb128: let me try to switch | 13:22 |
| seb128 | sil2100, mterry: could you please review https://code.launchpad.net/~seb128/gnome-control-center-unity/swap-color-use-gdkcolor/+merge/189309 , it's an easy one | 13:31 |
| seb128 | sil2100, we are going to need g-c-c-unity published as well since we didn't have any landing for it since we changed the naming scheme and the raring-updates version is newer than the saucy one, which is going to create upgrade issues | 13:32 |
| sil2100 | seb128: looking | 13:33 |
| Trevinho | seb128: not in a guest session... maybe i've messed up mine :/ | 13:34 |
| sil2100 | seb128: ok, add it to the Landing Asks, I'll pick it up and release anyway | 13:34 |
| seb128 | Trevinho, could be a setting causing problems :/ | 13:34 |
| seb128 | sil2100, thanks, do we need landing ask for non touch code? | 13:34 |
| seb128 | sil2100, that's a gnome-control-center fix, e.g desktop only | 13:35 |
| ogra_ | only if it touches touch | 13:35 |
| seb128 | ogra_, it doesn't, it's a gnome-control-center panel :p | 13:35 |
| ogra_ | for other stuff the release team ius responsible as usual | 13:35 |
| seb128 | tkamppeter_, bregma: your login issue is https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lightdm/+bug/1036830 and should be fixed with https://code.launchpad.net/~robert-ancell/lightdm/handle-corrupt-xauthority/+merge/188256 | 13:42 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 1036830 in lightdm (Ubuntu) "Can't log in unless remove .Xauthority or use gdm" [Undecided,Confirmed] | 13:42 |
| bregma | huzzah | 13:42 |
| sil2100 | seb128: I wonder ;) Not really sure personally if we use the Landing Asks only for things related to touch or to overall now, I'm always confused | 13:43 |
| seb128 | sil2100, ogra said only touch | 13:43 |
| sil2100 | seb128: then let's skip that indeed - is everything merged in already that needs release? | 13:43 |
| seb128 | sil2100, no, I need https://code.launchpad.net/~seb128/gnome-control-center-unity/swap-color-use-gdkcolor/+merge/189309 review/approved by you or mterry | 13:44 |
| sil2100 | I'll install it and test now that it's built | 13:45 |
| seb128 | sil2100, ok, I already that here, basically open the appearance capplet, go to color, pick a horizontal or vertical 2 color option, pick 2 colors, see that it does the effect on the background, click the swap button, see that it works | 13:46 |
| === nessita_ is now known as nessita | ||
| seb128 | mterry, hey, ^ if you want to do an easy review for me (that's the same gdkcolor fix I did some months ago, but in another place of the code I forgot to change back then) | 13:47 |
| seb128 | oh, you just did | 13:47 |
| seb128 | mterry, thanks ;-) | 13:47 |
| seb128 | sil2100, mterry code approved, so we should be good ;-) | 13:47 |
| seb128 | sil2100, and I see you approved as well | 13:48 |
| seb128 | rock on ;-) | 13:48 |
| sil2100 | Approved! | 13:49 |
| sil2100 | Let's get it merged and released ;p | 13:49 |
| bregma | mterry, I'd like to branch and release upstream unity-greeter 13.10.3 and then bump trunk to 14.01 ... any objections? | 14:06 |
| Trevinho | seb128: about that scrolling issue, i've also tried to log on gnome flashback session...and.... if I run it after logging out from the unity one then it doesn't work, but if I select it as my first session after boot it does work | 14:07 |
| Trevinho | seb128: so, do you have any idea what could be set wrong in that unity session (not pribably much unity related)? | 14:08 |
| Trevinho | as the unity guest session work as expected | 14:08 |
| seb128 | sil2100, and the change is merged in trunk, so should we go with the new build | 14:17 |
| seb128 | Trevinho, no idea, maybe ibus? | 14:17 |
| seb128 | that would be weird though | 14:17 |
| seb128 | Trevinho, log out, go to a vt, check what processes might still be running for your user? | 14:18 |
| Trevinho | ok, I'll check it... since it must be saved on something that is volatile.. | 14:19 |
| sil2100 | seb128: ok, let me spin it on | 14:20 |
| === tkamppeter_ is now known as tkamppeter | ||
| mterry | bregma, I just pushed 13.10.3 to saucy, so yeah, bump trunk | 14:24 |
| tkamppeter | seb128, thanks, is this fix already in Saucy? | 14:26 |
| seb128 | tkamppeter, no it's not | 14:27 |
| tkamppeter | seb128, will it get in soon (next lightdm?)? | 14:28 |
| bregma | mterry, am I correct in believing unity-greeter does not have any CI or autolanding? | 14:32 |
| mterry | bregma, it does have autolanding, but yesterday I got in the bad habit of uploading some small fixes without it, if that's what you're looking at | 14:36 |
| bregma | naughty boy | 14:36 |
| seb128 | tkamppeter, next week most likely, but you can probably build/try trunk if you want to confirm it fixes your issue | 14:43 |
| seb128 | bregma, is christownsend off today? | 15:06 |
| bregma | seb128 yes | 15:06 |
| seb128 | bregma, hum, ok | 15:06 |
| seb128 | bregma, I was looking at https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gsettings-desktop-schemas/+bug/1201405 but I can't reproduce the issue | 15:08 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 1201405 in gsettings-desktop-schemas (Ubuntu) "[regression] Wall: keyboard bindings for 'Move up & Move down' are being set to "super+prior & super+next'" [High,In progress] | 15:08 |
| seb128 | bregma, do you know if that's randomly happening? | 15:09 |
| seb128 | bregma, I tried with a daily iso in a vm or with a guest session on my work machine,ctrl-alt-up/down works | 15:09 |
| bregma | seb128, we've never seen it happen | 15:09 |
| seb128 | ok, the description made it seems like it would happy for everyone | 15:10 |
| sil2100 | seb128: g-c-c-u published! | 15:25 |
| tkamppeter | seb128, the patch fixes the problem. Thank you very much! | 15:25 |
| Laney | Why do we patch some extra methods into org.gnome.SessionManager? | 15:25 |
| * Laney starts a T-cycle things to do list | 15:37 | |
| Laney | they seem unnecessary now | 15:37 |
| seb128 | sil2100, great, thanks! | 15:50 |
| seb128 | tkamppeter, thanks for confirming! | 15:50 |
| seb128 | Laney, what methods? | 15:50 |
| Laney | RequestShutdown and RequestReboot | 15:50 |
| seb128 | Laney, T is nice, but we are not done yet with bug fixing for S :p | 15:50 |
| Laney | I know | 15:50 |
| seb128 | Laney, I think chrisccoulson added those back in the days, not sure why now | 15:50 |
| Laney | that's why it's a to do list and not things i'm doing now | 15:50 |
| Laney | :P | 15:50 |
| Laney | I think at the time g-session didn't have anything to do that | 15:51 |
| seb128 | https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-session/2.26.0svn20090408-0ubuntu2 | 15:51 |
| Laney | yeah, saw it | 15:51 |
| Laney | man we had a lot of arches back then | 15:52 |
| chrisccoulson | blast from the past | 15:52 |
| === ember_ is now known as ember | ||
| Laney | it still exists! | 15:52 |
| chrisccoulson | i was younger than 30 when i did that. true story! | 15:52 |
| seb128 | Laney, chrisccoulson: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2009-April/028102.html | 15:53 |
| seb128 | that has the explanations | 15:53 |
| Laney | man | 15:55 |
| Laney | you ubuntu archaeologist | 15:55 |
| seb128 | lol | 15:55 |
| seb128 | the good old times, when chrisccoulson was still a desktopers | 15:56 |
| chrisccoulson | hah :) | 15:56 |
| robru | seb128, what? i didn't make any changes to notify-osd | 15:57 |
| seb128 | robru, you dropped our Ubuntu diff when you inlined the packaging | 15:57 |
| robru | seb128, when was that? that must have been forever ago, i don't even remember it | 15:58 |
| seb128 | robru, yeah, it's almost a year ago | 15:58 |
| seb128 | nov 2012 | 15:59 |
| robru | seb128, hah, wow. so what problem is happening now? | 15:59 |
| Laney | turned out to not be to do with that | 15:59 |
| seb128 | robru, the problem was not due to that | 15:59 |
| robru | ah, ok ;-) | 15:59 |
| seb128 | robru, I just mentioned that in case | 15:59 |
| robru | seb128, so anyways, powersaving works fine on a guest account, and also in the VT! what dotfile can possibly be in my account that breaks powersaving?? | 16:00 |
| seb128 | robru, I noticed the change earlier this year, and discussed it with didrocks, but we decided it was not creating issues to not have it so we didn't add it back | 16:00 |
| seb128 | robru, I would recommend to dump the gsettings config of the g-s-d power plugin and compare the values | 16:00 |
| seb128 | maybe some gsettings key in there | 16:00 |
| seb128 | robru, e.g "gsettings list-recursively org.gnome.settings-daemon.plugins.power > keys" | 16:01 |
| seb128 | robru, do that for your user and guest and diff the files | 16:01 |
| robru | seb128, how do I do that? I looked at it with dconf-editor and it claimed there was no schema available (but i checked; of course the schema is installed, otherwise everything would crash without it) | 16:01 |
| robru | seb128, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6192824/ can this be it?? | 16:03 |
| seb128 | robru, shouldn't | 16:04 |
| seb128 | robru, that's the only diff? | 16:04 |
| robru | seb128, yeah! | 16:04 |
| seb128 | robru, you might want to just dump the whole db (e.g drop the org.gnome.settings-daemon.plugins.power) argument | 16:05 |
| seb128 | robru, thank diff and grep for anything that contains power dpms, suspend etc | 16:05 |
| seb128 | thank->then | 16:05 |
| robru | seb128, ok. in a meeting now, will try that shortly | 16:05 |
| robru | seb128, thanks | 16:05 |
| seb128 | robru, yw | 16:06 |
| sil2100 | robru: hello man! | 16:35 |
| sil2100 | robru: could you take a look at this branch here? Make sure it makes sense, since there are REALLY minor nit-picks | 16:36 |
| sil2100 | robru: https://code.launchpad.net/~sil2100/ubuntu-settings-components/small_packaging_mods/+merge/189368 | 16:36 |
| sil2100 | robru: since I think you did the packaging, and it's good ;) | 16:36 |
| robru | sil2100, yeah, sure | 16:36 |
| sil2100 | I go now, have a nice weekend | 16:36 |
| robru | sil2100, ok, you as well | 16:37 |
| seb128 | sil2100, thanks, you as well! | 16:38 |
| robru | sil2100, wait, still around? | 16:38 |
| robru | sil2100, why did you change the boilerplate "if you arent' a memeber..." text? that is the same in all daily released packages... | 16:38 |
| sil2100 | robru: actually, the 'trends' changed ;) | 16:39 |
| Laney | what is ubuntu-settings-components? | 16:39 |
| sil2100 | robru: it's a nitpick, but we try to get things this way from now on, check: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DailyRelease/InlinePackaging (as it got modified) | 16:39 |
| * Laney perks up | 16:39 | |
| robru | sil2100, so we have to change that for all of them? actually I like this new boilerplate, since you can copy & paste without having to change the team name | 16:39 |
| sil2100 | robru: indeed! I think we don't have to, we might do that 'by chance' if you make some other modifications, but I would say it doesn't make sense to change that on purpose | 16:40 |
| sil2100 | robru: I'm using this for new components for now ;) | 16:40 |
| sil2100 | See you guys! | 16:40 |
| robru | sil2100, ok ok, good night! | 16:40 |
| robru | Laney, I don't actually know! ;-) | 16:42 |
| Laney | haha | 16:42 |
| robru | Laney, I just package it ;-) | 16:43 |
| * Laney eyes GunnarHj | 16:45 | |
| Laney | you're supposed to wait for FFes to be accepted before uploading :P | 16:45 |
| mitya57 | Laney: any update on g-s-d shortcuts stuff? | 16:49 |
| Laney | mitya57: darkxst is going to fix the patch | 16:50 |
| mitya57 | Laney: ah, right, and what about notify-osd then? | 16:51 |
| Laney | don't know what to do | 16:51 |
| Laney | I uninstalled it | 16:52 |
| mitya57 | :p | 16:52 |
| mitya57 | why don't you like what I suggested (AutostartCondition=GNOME3 unless-session gnome)? | 16:52 |
| Laney | that's what it has | 16:53 |
| Laney | it just means that it autostarts on all non-shell sessions | 16:53 |
| Laney | i.e. no way to get osd on those if you have n-daemon installed | 16:53 |
| mitya57 | ah, and your session is not managed by gnome-session? | 16:54 |
| Laney | it is | 16:54 |
| Laney | but it's called gnome-xmonad | 16:54 |
| Laney | so you get autostarted | 16:54 |
| mitya57 | so notification-daemon has that AutostartCondition? | 16:55 |
| Laney | sure does | 16:55 |
| mitya57 | it's probably wrong | 16:55 |
| Laney | what else would you have? | 16:56 |
| mitya57 | I think on GNOME sessions we want either notify-osd or nothing | 16:56 |
| robru | seb128, grepping through gsettings for power/suspend/dpms, i just don't see anything like that. | 16:56 |
| Laney | no notifications? | 16:56 |
| Laney | that would be a bit bad | 16:56 |
| mitya57 | nothing=managed by gnome-shell | 16:56 |
| Laney | we're talking about non-shell gnome sessions | 16:57 |
| Laney | all I can think of is a wrapper to exit if the dbus service file exists | 16:57 |
| Laney | then you get osd if it's installed and can't force daemon | 16:58 |
| Laney | don't know if that matters | 16:58 |
| robru | seb128, wait, in ...plugins.power, I have three keys that don't seem to be part of the schema. idle-dim-battery, sleep-display-ac, and sleep-display-battery. could those have caused this? | 16:59 |
| mitya57 | Laney: we can make notification-daemon recommend notify-osd, this way notify-osd will be present on all environments that depend on notification-daemon | 17:01 |
| mitya57 | notify-osd is anyway a successor for notification-daemon, and the latter is kind of abandoned | 17:02 |
| Laney | it's a part of gnome flashback | 17:02 |
| Laney | i don't think we could do anything as aggressive that | 17:03 |
| Laney | as that | 17:03 |
| seb128 | robru, could be, but weird if they are not in the schemas, that shouldn't be possible | 17:03 |
| mitya57 | last commit 2012-09-03 | 17:04 |
| Laney | talk to the ubuntu-gnome guys | 17:04 |
| mitya57 | I don't know any person that will prefer n-d to notify-osd | 17:04 |
| Laney | it's their thing really | 17:04 |
| mitya57 | darkxst: ^ | 17:04 |
| robru | seb128, dunno, do you have those keys? dconf-editor says 'no schema' when I click on them, but other keys in that same plugin have a schema. my guess would be that the schema changed, but i still have those keys lying around from before | 17:04 |
| seb128 | Laney, they don't use it, gnome-shell has its own built in notifications | 17:04 |
| Laney | the flashback session does | 17:05 |
| Laney | I assume they care about that at least a bit | 17:05 |
| seb128 | robru, oh, you didn't say you were using dconf(-editor), those are leftover keys indeed | 17:05 |
| mitya57 | In Ubuntu the flashback session did always use notify-osd | 17:05 |
| seb128 | robru, it's just that gsettings' utility shouldn't list anything that doesn't have a schemas | 17:05 |
| robru | seb128, so are they harmless? | 17:05 |
| seb128 | robru, I though you were still using it/reading the diff | 17:05 |
| seb128 | robru, yes, they can't really be used from code if they don't have a schemas | 17:05 |
| robru | seb128, oh, no, couldn't find anything in the diff, so went poking with dconf-editor ;-) | 17:05 |
| seb128 | robru, they got deprecated in g-s-d 3.8 | 17:05 |
| robru | ah | 17:06 |
| robru | seb128, well, I am totally stumped. I guess when saucy is released I will just format & reinstall. | 17:06 |
| seb128 | robru, you said it works in a guest session? how formatting/reinstall is going to improve thing? | 17:07 |
| seb128 | robru, if the issue is in your user profile, just create a new user and migrate datas over | 17:07 |
| seb128 | robru, no need to reinstall for that | 17:07 |
| robru | seb128, well, I meant to imply that erasing my account and starting fresh would be part of that ;-) | 17:07 |
| mitya57 | ok, I agree that adding a Recommends: will be too agressive for Saucy | 17:07 |
| seb128 | well, that's the only part you need | 17:07 |
| robru | seb128, heh, true | 17:07 |
| seb128 | the format/reinstall is an old win habit | 17:08 |
| robru | seb128, true. I should run debsums and make sure my system is in good shape ;-) | 17:08 |
| mitya57 | Laney: as a temporary solution we can put "unless-session gnome, gnome-flashback, gnome-flashback-compiz" in n-d | 17:09 |
| mitya57 | (does gnome-session support a syntax like that?) | 17:10 |
| mitya57 | that will at least fix the regression for flashback users | 17:10 |
| Laney | no, sadly not | 17:10 |
| Laney | I think the bug might be that flashback gives you daemon | 17:10 |
| Laney | looking at its changelog it's supposed to be Ubuntu-ish | 17:11 |
| mitya57 | "I think the bug might be that flashback gives you daemon" — what do you mean by that? | 17:11 |
| Laney | it depends on it | 17:11 |
| Laney | but that is probably not in line with what it is supposed to be | 17:11 |
| seb128 | robru, you might want to run gnome-settings-daemon --debug (after stopping the running instance) | 17:12 |
| seb128 | robru, https://git.gnome.org/browse/gnome-settings-daemon/commit/?id=5c0eac4a1c8b4a891d2e45a6fc32e24d873bef6a suggests there is debug code in the power source | 17:12 |
| seb128 | robru, you might get some useful info out of it | 17:12 |
| robru | seb128, ahhh, thanks | 17:12 |
| Laney | EOW for me | 17:21 |
| Laney | have a good weekend everyone! | 17:21 |
| mitya57 | Have a great weekend too! | 17:23 |
| desrt | Laney: peace out, dude! | 17:23 |
| === psivaa is now known as psivaa-afk | ||
| seb128 | Laney, thanks, you as well! | 17:27 |
| desrt | seb128: took your advice and wrote back to the xdg list | 17:46 |
| desrt | this problem really is only limited to the mimeapps.list | 17:47 |
| desrt | which is a stupid stupid file to begin with | 17:47 |
| seb128 | desrt, ok, I'm going to read that a thread a bit later (maybe tomorrow in the train if I get bored) | 17:50 |
| desrt | seb128: going on a trip? | 17:50 |
| seb128 | desrt, going to Lyon for didrocks' weeding | 17:50 |
| desrt | ah right :) | 17:50 |
| === slomo__ is now known as slomo | ||
| Laney | hmm | 21:16 |
| Laney | why don't I have a network indicator? | 21:16 |
| alesage | Laney is indicator-network-service running? | 21:17 |
| Laney | alesage: no | 21:17 |
| Laney | isn't that not the desktop one though? | 21:17 |
| * alesage is in the wrong channel | 21:18 | |
| Laney | I get it in unity under a guest session | 21:21 |
| Laney | but not in my panel session | 21:21 |
| Laney | hmm | 21:30 |
| Laney | I can run nm-applet manually to get it | 21:30 |
| Laney | ah | 21:32 |
| Laney | https://launchpadlibrarian.net/149822263/network-manager-applet_0.9.8.0-1ubuntu2_0.9.8.0-1ubuntu3.diff.gz | 21:32 |
| Laney | darkxst: ^ | 21:32 |
| Laney | can that be an AutostartCondition instead? | 21:32 |
| darkxst | Laney, the wrong patch got uploaded ;( | 21:32 |
| Laney | what's the right one? | 21:33 |
| darkxst | the second one in Bug 1189309, but needs to be rebased | 21:34 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 1189309 in network-manager-applet (Ubuntu) "nm-applet crashed with SIGSEGV in gtk_status_icon_set_visible()" [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1189309 | 21:34 |
| Laney | ok | 21:34 |
| darkxst | I had be meaning to fix that one, but forget all about it! | 21:35 |
| Laney | can you re-forward it back to gnome? | 21:35 |
| Laney | they have it as just NotShowIn | 21:35 |
| darkxst | Laney, sure | 21:36 |
| Laney | ty | 21:36 |
| * Laney tries the rebase | 21:37 | |
| Laney | yeah that works | 21:50 |
| Laney | darkxst: uploading | 21:57 |
| darkxst | Laney, thanks, I will forward upstream in a bit | 21:59 |
| Laney | cool, thank you | 21:59 |
Generated by irclog2html.py 2.7 by Marius Gedminas - find it at mg.pov.lt!