[00:00] <jmgk> Dr_Willis, so its good to have both ?
[00:00] <Dr_Willis> jmgk:  both desktop and  mobile? You bought it allready  so you have it?
[00:00] <jmgk> yep
[00:00] <jmgk> I do . I'll get it now
[00:00] <jmgk> :)
[00:00] <jmgk> Brb
[00:00] <Dr_Willis> so you allready have both. :)
[00:00]  * Dr_Willis is still confused
[00:01] <agliodbs> how do I disable seahorse entirely and get rid of it
[00:01] <agliodbs> ?
[00:01] <agliodbs> darned thing is prompting me for pass phrases for ssh keys with no passphrase
[00:01] <Dr_Willis> agliodbs:  why do you want to?  apt-get remove <packagename> but that may have other breakages
[00:02] <Nancy_> looking for a complete calendaring / email / contacts solution. Looking at OpenXChange / DSpam and puting together one with DSPAM, postfix, calendarserver, and roundcube.    Anyone know anything about either approach?
[00:02] <Nancy_> looking for a complete calendaring / email / contacts solution. Looking at OpenXChange / DSpam and puting together one with DSPAM, postfix, calendarserver, and roundcube.    Anyone know anything about either approach?
[00:02] <agliodbs> Dr_Willis: because it's a terrible useless program?
[00:02] <sofie_> I installed a Ubuntu server 12.04.03 + Etherape , And I'm under heavy attack !
[00:02] <agliodbs> Dr_Willis: it's blocking my access to my ssh keys
[00:02] <Dr_Willis> agliodbs:  ive rarely ever seen any people with problems with it in here.
[00:03] <Dr_Willis> !find seahorse
[00:03] <agliodbs> Dr_Willis: search a bit on the internet.  there are literally hundreds of posts about disabling it.  People hate it with a passion, and with good reason
[00:04] <agliodbs> Dr_Willis: such as now: I am trying to log into an external server using an ssh key with no passphrase.  Seahorse jumps in the middle of things insisting that I type in a passphrase
[00:04] <agliodbs> causing the connection to fail
[00:05] <Freel0ader> hi
[00:05] <Freel0ader> can i install rpms if using ubuntu live?
[00:05] <Freel0ader> in memory
[00:05] <sofie_> rettype the key ,agliodbs
[00:05] <Dr_Willis> !alien  | Freel0ader
[00:05] <agliodbs> sofie_: what key?
[00:06] <Dr_Willis> Freel0ader:  doable.. but useing rpm's is generally not a good idea
[00:06] <Freel0ader> sorry. not rpms
[00:06] <pfifo> Freel0ader: yes you can, Im assuming you mean deb's though... but you could still install an rmp if you really meant that
[00:06] <sofie_> for connecting to your external server
[00:06] <agliodbs> sofie_: I have no idea what you're saying
[00:06] <Freel0ader> i just want to run ubuntu from a dvd and install pcscd and run it and install coolkey and use firefox with it
[00:07] <Freel0ader> is that doable?
[00:07] <nick__> I installed Ubuntu 13.10 daily image from october 2 (and udated today), and I cannot get MDM installed (mint display manager).  I added the repository, but in synaptic there is a package called mdm, but it is not the mint display manager.  I wanted to install a GDM theme but couldn't manage to, and I can with MDM (I just put the files in say usr/share/mdm/themes and im good to go)... Anyone able to help?
[00:07] <Dr_Willis> Freel0ader:  you can install packages and they will instgall to ram. and be lost when you reboot. ;) unless you use a live-usb with a peristant save file
[00:07] <sofie_> I'm just using ubuntu for a year so....
[00:07] <pfifo> Freel0ader: yes, your good to go
[00:07] <Freel0ader> ram is fine
[00:07] <sofie_> pretty beginner
[00:08] <nick__> sofie_: Same here, I got 12.10 when it was released, and been on Linux ever since
[00:08] <Freel0ader> what's the ubuntu distro for a dvd? live?
[00:08] <Freel0ader> ubuntu live?
[00:08] <agliodbs> wow, Seahorse is a steaming pile of #^$%$^%&^
[00:09] <pfifo> malm?
[00:09] <sofie_> same shit here nick__ i allways used that crappy Windows all the time,
[00:09] <sofie_> and ms_dos
[00:10] <nick__> sofie_, I have to dual boot with windows, because the tools i use for work only run in IE... lol.  Everything I do like web design, audio and video production, Linux has great alternatives for
[00:10] <nick__> repost: I installed Ubuntu 13.10 daily image from october 2 (and udated today), and I cannot get MDM installed (mint display manager).  I added the repository, but in synaptic there is a package called mdm, but it is not the mint display manager.  I wanted to install a GDM theme but couldn't manage to, and I can with MDM (I just put the files in say usr/share/mdm/themes and im good to go)... Anyone able to hel
[00:10] <nick__> p?
[00:10] <Armadillos> nick__: That's why I have a Ctirx session for IE at work. :)
[00:11] <wdkevintwo> is there an ubuntu server virtual appliance? just barebones?
[00:11] <nick__> my performing name is Citrix lol, I use citrix on my work computer, but somethings its easier to boot from ym laptop into
[00:12] <pfifo> nick__: mint is not ubuntu, its only based on ubuntu... and mint is not supported here
[00:12] <gmachine_24> hello. running 12.04 - what do i need to install to get access to a remote computer on my home network? I guess I'm getting old because i forgot how to do this.
[00:12] <nick__> pfifo, I had it working in 13.04.  It is a mint question then?
[00:12] <Armadillos> gmachine_24: Wanting X Windows, or just erminal?
[00:12] <Armadillos> err, terminal*
[00:12] <gmachine_24> Armadillos; just terminal is great thanks
[00:13] <pfifo> nick__: not sure, never dont the mint thing... id hqave to say the program was included from mint
[00:13] <Armadillos> gmachine_24: Just make sure you have the SSH dameon installed, and you have port 22 open in your firewaall.
[00:13] <gmachine_24> Armadillos: ok, thanks
[00:13] <nick__> pfifo, Yes, and is available in webupd8 repositories.  I was just hoping someone in here had experience with it.  So, what would you guys support in regards to display managers.  just lightdm?
[00:14] <sofie_> I'm going to sleep now, thnx a lot guys
[00:14] <foobarwhat> when outside of ubuntu, I usually do "ssh-agent startx" so that ssh-agent works with all the terminals I spawn. What's the equivalent in lightdm/gdm world?
[00:14] <nick__> sofie_,  what was your question?
[00:14] <pfifo> nick__: anything in the repos, xdm gdm... kdm in #kubuntu
[00:15] <deadmund> I'm looking for an RSS reader that automatically (every hour?) checks my feed and downloads unread items and opens those items with the correct program (e.g. gthumb for an image)
[00:15] <nick__> pfifo, great, so how would i install a gdm theme?  like i said, normally, I just find the appropriate files in /usr/whatever the path may be, but i cannot find out where gdm config files or themes are located
[00:16] <milamber> nick__: http://superuser.com/questions/124174/how-can-i-specify-the-repository-from-which-a-package-will-be-installed-emacs
[00:16] <sofie_> I installed a dedicated firewall server(pc with freeBSD) with fsence/firewall  and I' still under heavy attack
[00:16] <foobarwhat> nevermind, gdm actually spawns ssh-agent automatically; I just had to ssh-add
[00:17] <upd> lol
[00:18] <sofie_> bye nick__
[00:18] <pfifo> nick__: not sure, check out gnome-look.org they should have everything you need
[00:18] <nick__> milamber, thanks.  when i do apt-cache showpkg mdm i only see the mdm package from ca.archive.*ubuntus repos*
[00:18] <pfifo> sofie_: call you ISP
[00:19] <pfifo> nick__: i think milamber was directing that at foobarwhat
[00:19] <nick__> pfifo, I've looked there.  from everything that I've found, I gather that there used to be a "login window" section in systems settings to easily accomplish what I am trying to do, but no longer there.
[00:19] <sofie_> my ISP is attacked by the NSA
[00:20] <milamber> nick__: not sure how you added the repo, but if you edited a sources file by hand you have to do an update
[00:20] <milamber> nick__: sudo apt-get update
[00:20] <nick__> milamber, i did sudo add-apt-repository ppa:*repo location* // sudo apt-get update //
[00:20] <milamber> nick
[00:21] <nick__> i do most stuff through terminal
[00:21] <jmgk> hi Dr_Willis wso I'm on that app
[00:21] <jmgk> its not bad
[00:21] <jmgk> :)
[00:21] <milamber> nick__: if that ppa offers other packages, can you see them via: apt-cache policy <packagename>
[00:22] <milamber> nick__: also, make sure you are connecting when you do the update(s)
[00:23] <nick__> milamber, something must have happened when i added the repo because nothing else is there, im pretty sure they have a bunch of other packages related to mint... i think its the same repo that mate is available through
[00:24] <milamber> nick__: what tutorial are you trying to follow?
[00:24] <nick__> ok problem discovered, its been a long day, I should have suspected that first, thanks for your help guys.  I will reboot and try to add it again
[00:24] <milamber> nick__: it is your machine, but rebooting to solve issues is often jokingly frowned upon here
[00:25] <nick__> http://www.webupd8.org/2012/11/how-to-install-latest-mdm-display.html
[00:26] <nick__> milamber, oh?  I made some other changes as well, installed... i cant remember right now... figured a reboot might cleare some stuff up.
[00:26] <milamber> nick__: with installing packages, probably not (unless you have manually edited config files in which case a daemon restart is usually all that is necessary)
[00:26] <dexter_> ok
[00:27] <dexter_> anybody here?
[00:27] <nick__> ahhhh, im still used to windows in some ways.  when you have to reboot more frequently.
[00:28] <toothe> so, I don't se where in the Ubuntu install is the option to install RAID
[00:28] <milamber> nick__: what version of ubuntu are you using?
[00:28] <nick__> 13.10 daily
[00:30] <tlf> I have 12.04 LTS on a dell studio 17 laptop. I've been using a hitachi 42" via serial as my display. I turned the tv on and discovered my resolution is about 640x800. i don't turn my laptop off unless an update requires a restart, and I don't let it go to sleep. Any idea setting wise that may have done this?
[00:30] <nick__> milamber, no i tried removing the repo, readding it, updating, and installing again and i think it might be a naming conflict with this other mdm package.  is that a possibility?
[00:31] <milamber> nick__: just so you know, technically support requests for saucy should be in ubuntu+1, but let us see if we can at least get your repo added. the first thing you should do when following those tutorials is seeing if the ppa is still maintained on launchpad.net, your is
[00:32] <milamber> nick__: that repo has lots of packages in it. if you aren't finding any of them i would say that it is not just a naming thing. are you able to find all the other packages provided by that repo?
[00:36] <nick__> milamber, upon looking at that repos package list, i notice that i cannot find some of th epackages.  the only consistency i can see right now is the ones i cannot find in apt are the ones that do not have a saucy version
[00:36] <nick__> milamber, mdm is one without a saucy version
[00:36] <nick__> :(
[00:37] <milamber> nick__: what exactly are you typing to install the repo?
[00:39] <nick__> sudo add-apt-repository ppa:nilarimogard/webupd8
[00:40] <nick__> milamber, it did add fine, and imported the RSA key, and is viewable in software and updates under the other tab.  and i can find the packages with a saucy version, so im assuming that must be it..
[00:40] <Pinkamena_D> How would I bridge from network cable to wifi with the wifi being on a seperate subnet
[00:41] <milamber> nick__: here is the link https://launchpad.net/~nilarimogard/+archive/webupd8?field.series_filter=saucy
[00:41] <milamber> the other option is to install a repo from a supported version. however; that is definitely not recommended and not supported here
[00:41] <poly-atheist> i can't install ubuntu
[00:42] <Pinkamena_D> or rather a simpler question, how can I share the wired connection to the wireless ? It does not seem to be able to connect even though it can see the network
[00:42] <pfifo> why does transmission-daemon install 50 different conf files but only use 1 of them?
[00:43] <nick__> milamber, yeah, upon looking further, i cannot find some of the packages with a saucy version either... so im assuming some of the packages exist in more than one of the repos i have... making things more confusing
[00:43] <poly-atheist> Pinkamena_D, you need to bridge your network
[00:43] <Pinkamena_D> on forums it has said that network manager can do this
[00:43] <milamber> nick__: that link i sent shows only 12 packages or so available for that repo in saucy
[00:43] <nick__> yah
[00:43] <poly-atheist> Pinkamena_D, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NetworkConnectionBridge
[00:43] <Pinkamena_D> blabla "create net network" and then change the type to "infrastructure"
[00:43] <mysteronyx> lol I love how the Ubuntu site mentions "live support" as if it's a typical person on the phone service. Then they take you to IRC lol.
[00:43] <Pinkamena_D> new*
[00:44] <gp5st> are there any gnome2 or xfce4 applets for sports scores?
[00:44] <pfifo> this makes it very difficult to figure out which file to edit in order to change settings
[00:45] <nick__> milamber, yes, you're right, we've got it figured out.  the repo is working, i just cant use mdm, which im fine with.  tomorrow i will focus on figuring out how to install gdm or lightdm themes, thanks very much for your help
[00:46] <milamber> nick__: no worries
[00:46] <Jeeves_Moss> how do I add extra IPs to a NIC?
[00:50] <jmpf> I was trying to create an upstart service && now my vm won't boot; I chk'd dmesg/syslog from recovery mode and don't see anything that stands out - if I don't go into recovery mode I see a blank screen; no service output or anything; suggestions?
[00:52] <poly-atheist> jeeves moss ifup eth0:1
[00:54] <Jeeves_Moss> poly-atheist, do you have a URL with details?  I've built a Nagios box that needs to monitor a bunch of internal nubnets
[00:56] <pfifo> woah! I just downloaded the livecd to my server at 24Mbps... wish my home internet did that
[00:57] <Pinkamena_D> so the problem with using network manager ot bridge utils is that the ubuntu machine is not behind a router. I have to make it into a router. what program would do this?
[00:57] <Jeeves_Moss> pfifo, once they get the up stream fixed, we can all host at home!
[00:58] <Jeeves_Moss> poly-atheist, do I put that in the interfaces file?
[00:59] <poly-atheist> yes
[01:00] <poly-atheist> Jeeves_Moss, https://www.linode.com/wiki/index.php/Multiple_IPs
[01:00] <Dr_Willis> !ics
[01:02] <Dr_Willis> jmpf:  try text mode - you might see some error messages that were getting hidden by a normal boot
[01:02] <Jeeves_Moss> poly-atheist, thanks!  That saves a LOT of headaches
[01:03] <Guest94208> i would like to download a free version of youtube to mp3
[01:03] <daftykins> that's against their terms of service
[01:03] <daftykins> sorry.
[01:03] <Guest94208> really?
[01:03] <Guest94208> ok
[01:05] <jmpf> Dr_Willis: yeh I'm an idiot -- just updated grub am && now seeing some output
[01:05] <TiZ> Is there a separate channel for talking about 13.10?
[01:06] <daftykins> TiZ: yes, #ubuntu+1
[01:06] <TiZ> daftykins: Excellent; thank you!
[01:07] <jmpf> last line is 'adding swap' - seems to just be sitting there
[01:09] <mrrcp> clear
[01:16] <Dr_Willis> heh - the only way i watch youtube is with downloader extensions.
[01:28] <bugbeast> i added a share in the samba GUI in launcher -> System -> Samba but I cant push files into the folder from a windows machine. i get a permission denied error.  (shared the public folder in my home folder to anyone with read/write control)
[01:28] <sf> anu
[01:28] <bugbeast> usually when i want to share a folder i right click on it, select properties and there is a sharing tab. i just installed 13.04 on a new machine and there is no option to share.  i have installed samba and system-config-samba. what am I missing?
[01:28] <wheatthin> bugbeast, it should be built into nautilus
[01:29] <bugbeast> im using thunar
[01:29] <bugbeast> its normally built in in thunar as well
[01:29] <bugbeast> on my other machines it is
[01:34] <we6jbo> How do I read a document that was installed with install-docs?
[01:35] <serapath_> hi
[01:35] <we6jbo> hey
[01:35] <serapath_> i just installed ubuntu 13.04 but cant find my local WLAN. i can use it with my desktop computer and from my android device without a problem
[01:36] <serapath_> but it doesnt show up on my notebook (others do, but not mine)
[01:36] <Tylertwo> we6jbo: I'm not familiar with install-docs. Do you know what kind of document it is and where it's stored?
[01:36] <serapath_> even typing it in manually when choosing "connect to hidden wifi" doesnt help
[01:37] <we6jbo> Tylertwo: This is the command that it ran install-docs -r nethack-spoilers
[01:37] <serapath_> any idea what possible reasons might be?
[01:37] <pfifo> serapath_: are the lots of networks around you?
[01:38] <we6jbo> serapath_: is the wifi light on or blinking? I've worked with many laptops/netbooks where a switch on the side or a bios setting turns off the wifi adapter
[01:39] <mrrcp> if your seeing other networks but not yours... how many networks are around you?
[01:39] <mrrcp> it may just not populate in the list
[01:40] <Tylertwo> we6jbo: Well it seems like locating the document would help. Sounds like nethack-spoilers is the doc name? So search for it using "locate nethack-spoilers"
[01:41] <toothe> gah, having trouble setting up RAID
[01:42] <toothe> this Ubuntu guide is outdated or broken
[01:42] <craigbass1976> I've got a lamp server I set up a long time ago.  I moved my site today.  When I moved my mail, only what was right out in my inbox went, no subdirectories.  Where did dovecot put them, or is postfix the issue?
[01:42] <pfifo> we6jbo: should be /usr/share/doc
[01:43] <we6jbo> pfifo: yeah that's where it is
[01:43] <pfifo> we6jbo: use this http://nethackwiki.com ascend a valkery first, dont quaff from fountains
[01:44] <we6jbo> is there a way to view the file?
[01:44] <Alice_Ursula_Sue> If you are a guy and wish to wear a bra, or do wear a bra, you do not have a problem and it is not abnormal. Many men feel the desire to wear bras, from average joes to celebrities. Visit http://www.websitetoolbox.com/mb/hellotaxi to be a part of a community of men who like to wear bras. Remember, men who wear bras are not abnormal, they are just like anyone else. So quit worrying and just wear a bra today, worry free!
[01:44] <pfifo> we6jbo: what file?
[01:44] <we6jbo> nethack-spoilers
[01:44] <pfifo> no extension?
[01:45] <we6jbo> holy smokes I just read that
[01:45] <we6jbo> it's a deb file
[01:46] <we6jbo> pfifo: nethack-spoilers_3.4.3-1_all.deb is the package with the nethack spoilers that I installed
[01:46] <pfifo> we6jbo: yes, but you said you found the file it installed in /usr/share/doc
[01:47] <we6jbo> pfifo: and there's also /usr/share/doc/nethack-spoilers/abil-343.txt and a bunch of other text files and gz files
[01:47] <we6jbo> pfifo: and there's nethack-spoilers/gazetteer/index.html and a bunch of other html files in that directory
[01:50] <Tylertwo> we6jbo: Surely you know how to read .txt files.. Are you having trouble with the other formats, or are you expecting it to be packaged in some way?
[01:55] <Alice_Ursula_Sue> If you are a guy and wish to wear a bra, or do wear a bra, you do not have a problem and it is not abnormal. Many men feel the desire to wear bras, from average joes to celebrities. Visit http://www.websitetoolbox.com/mb/hellotaxi to be a part of a community of men who like to wear bras. Remember, men who wear bras are not abnormal, they are just like anyone else. So quit worrying and just wear a bra today, worry free!
[01:55] <toothe> I'm following a guide on setting up sftware RAID
[01:55] <toothe> but, this guide appears to be broken in several places
[01:55] <toothe> https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/serverguide/advanced-installation.html
[01:56] <toothe> it says to setup SWAP, then sets the fie system type to RAID
[01:56] <toothe> then it says to set a RAID device to bootable, which is not possible.
[01:57] <toothe> any ideas? why is this guide broken?
[01:57] <daftykins> Alice_Ursula_Sue: but does Ubuntu's bum look big in this?
[01:59] <wheatthin> daftykins, not with the lxde ;)
[02:00] <serapath_> we6jbo: i dont know whether the light is blinking or not. cant locate such a light.
[02:00] <toothe> anyone know??
[02:00] <serapath_> pfifo i dont know, a couple, yes, but its currently 4am here and i doubt theres many traffic
[02:00] <serapath_> much
[02:02] <toothe> hey, is anyone there??
[02:02] <toothe> How can I boot off of a RAID drive!!
[02:02] <Dr_Willis> im in and out.
[02:02] <Dr_Willis> I dont use raid however.
[02:02]  * toothe is frustrated.
[02:03] <craftyguy> Hi, I have an issue on Ubuntu 13.10 Beta where wpa_supplicant crashes on login. The ubuntu bug reporting app keeps saying the bug has already been reported on launchpad (https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1210875), however this bug doesn't seem to exist. What's up with that?
[02:03] <Dr_Willis> commonly in the past theres a /boot/ partion thats not part of the raid toothe  used to boot the system. but  that may or may not be needed in all cases
[02:07] <Gammax> evening all, is there a tablet that is compatible with ubuntu?
[02:07] <justanotheruser> Is there a way to not allow myself to connect to the internet unless I'm connected to my VPN? I'm using nm-applet as my gui interface and an openvpn VPN.
[02:08] <milamber> !tablet | Gammax
[02:08] <Gammax> Thanks!
[02:09] <senlis> would someone help me with an Nvidia problem?
[02:09] <Dr_Willis> Gammax:  i think the nexus7 is one of the main testbeds for the ubuntu touch stuff.
[02:10] <trism> craftyguy: it happens quite a bit that bugs get dup'd on private bugs, you could try asking in #ubuntu-bugs and somebody there might be able to see it and give you more information
[02:10] <Gammax> Dr_Willis:  IS THAT THE NEW ONE?
[02:10] <Gammax> sorry for caps.
[02:15] <serapath_> what the heck? on my ubuntu, i'm finding totally different WLANs
[02:15] <serapath_> hows that possible?
[02:15] <serapath_> only one in common is a "FRITZ!Box 6360 Cable"
[02:15] <Dr_Willis> senlis: Gammax  theres been a  new version of it came out like last month..
[02:15] <Senlis> I have this problem, after installing NVIDIA drivers, that the computer will slow down and freeze after about 30 seconds.  Is anyone familiar with this?
[02:15] <OY1R> what's the latest LTS that uses the real gnome desktop ?
[02:16] <Dr_Willis> OY1R:  if you mean gnome2 - there is no longer a lts that uses it i belive
[02:16] <Dr_Willis> gnome2 is dead
[02:16] <serapath_> ah and a "WLAN-0024FE42F6E6
[02:16] <serapath_> all others are different
[02:16] <Senlis> sorry Dr_Willis, I only just caught the last bit of your conversation since the computer froze and I had to restart IRC
[02:16] <toothe> so, this guide demands that I set the RAID device as bootable, but I cannot.
[02:16] <serapath_> and i cant see my personal one from my ubuntu notebook
[02:16] <OY1R> damn.
[02:17] <Dr_Willis> OY1R:  and really there are better desktops out there these days.  Xubuntu and Lubuntu are both very useable. the latest gnome-shell 3.8+ has the official gnome- 'gnome2ish' desktop you can install
[02:17] <Dr_Willis> then theres all the gnome2-classic/lookalike variants that i dont use. ;)
[02:17] <OY1R> gnome2ish, does it look/feel exactly like gnome 2?
[02:18] <Dr_Willis> Nothing looks and feels exactly like gnome2
[02:18] <Dr_Willis> dont even expect it.
[02:18] <Dr_Willis> you can setup xubuntu to be fairly close if you want somting lighter then gnome-shell
[02:19] <Senlis> The odd thing is that the computer doesn't completely freeze.  The mouse will still move, but I can't get the computer to respond to input
[02:19] <pleanbean> Anyone have experience with UEFI installs?
[02:19] <Dr_Willis> Senlis:  this isent a dual gpu optmius system is it?
[02:19] <Senlis> it is a Geforce 670, let me check
[02:20] <ZH__> Hai
[02:20] <toothe> does anyone here know how to configure RAID on Ubuntu?
[02:20] <toothe> I'm trying to install Ubuntu server.
[02:21] <toothe> but, the installer will not allow me to configure a RAID device as bootable.
[02:21] <ZH__> i'm just downloading new brand of ubuntu now...
[02:21] <Senlis> toothe: I have a computer where I have RAID 0 set up through the BIOS, what they call fake RAID, is that what you have?
[02:21] <Dr_Willis> toothe:  make a /boot/ partion thats outside the raid perhaps?
[02:21] <Senlis> Dr_Willis: it seems that my GPU is optimus, does that mean I need to install bumblebee?
[02:21] <toothe> Senlis: No, I"m doing software RAID.
[02:21] <toothe> Dr_Willis: What file type would that be?
[02:22] <toothe> damn, the guide does not metion that at all, but its worth a shot. What does the /boot drive consist of?
[02:22] <ZH__> i'm new! don' ask me!
[02:22] <Dr_Willis> Senlis:  as far as i know - yes. you need to use bublebee to make fulluse of optimis stuff
[02:22] <ZH__> i'm new! don't ask me!
[02:22] <Dr_Willis> toothe:  filesystem for /boot/ could be ext2/3/4  your choise
[02:22] <Senlis> Dr_Willis: I'll give it a shot, thanks
[02:22] <toothe> Dr_Willis: What is the /boot drive used for again?
[02:22] <Dr_Willis> toothe:  thats where the kernel and grub boot files are at
[02:23] <ZH__> i'm new! don't ask me!
[02:23] <daftykins> ZH__: can you stop that now please?
[02:23] <Dr_Willis> make it perhaps 500+mb in size. because it really really SUCKS if you fill up /boot/ ;)
[02:24] <Dr_Willis> i put backup ISO files on my /boot/ and setup grub to boot the iso files as a fallback recovery/rescue/reinstall option. ;)
[02:25] <ZH__> stop what?
[02:25] <serapath__> re, fixed the WLAN issue. i had to change the WLAN channel to something below 11, because the driver doesnt support above 11
[02:26] <eamagoo> Hi
[02:26] <blackmatrix_ny> hey folks, is there a way to get the temprature widget without having to install compiz
[02:26] <toothe> okay, would anyone help me here for money?
[02:26] <ZH__> how much>
[02:26] <toothe> $50 ?
[02:27] <Dr_Willis> blackmatrix_ny:  you could use stuff like conky, or indicator applets to get temp readouts
[02:27] <lotuspsychje> morning to all ubuntu lovers :p
[02:27] <eamagoo> I need some help installing ubuntu on my new notebook, tried 12.04lts and 13.04 both result in black screen
[02:27] <iamagrenade> hi all
[02:27] <owdjaodopj> I'm trying to play counter-strike on linux instead of windows... and the game aspect ratio is messed up... it's streching across the entire screen versus with blackbars? Is this a launch command or an ubuntu setting?
[02:27] <Dr_Willis> !nomodeset | eamagoo
[02:27] <blackmatrix_ny> Dr_Willis, THnx. Any indicator applets you would recommend ?
[02:27] <lotuspsychje> !details | eamagoo
[02:27] <Dr_Willis> blackmatrix_ny:  theres a list of them at askubuntu.com  search for indicator applet list, and sort by votes - but it may be outdated
[02:28] <lotuspsychje> !info indicator-multiload | blackmatrix_ny
[02:28] <legg1> Anyone know if there's a way to install ubuntu(xfce) without EFI? keep getting mounting-error during partitioning/install in /boot/efi
[02:28] <Dr_Willis> blackmatrix_ny:  there may be others in the repos also
[02:28] <blackmatrix_ny> Great. Thanks a lot guys.
[02:29] <lotuspsychje> !steam | owdjaodopj
[02:29] <Dr_Willis> !uefi
[02:31] <lotuspsychje> owdjaodopj: is your graphics card driver installed correctly?
[02:31] <iamagrenade> I'm struggling with a unique problem.  I have a Dell laptop that has a Broadcom BCM4315 wireless controller.  It works with ubuntu 8.10, but after upgrading all the way to 12.04- it refuses to work.  The controller is identified in dmesg.  This seems to be a common problem, but none of the suggestions I found worked.  So, I'm using my 8.10 livecd, and was hoping someone could suggest a way to upgrade while keeping the proper package inst
[02:31] <owdjaodopj> it's an intel onboard gpu
[02:31] <Senlis> every time I install bumblebee, I get one monitor (instead of the three hooked up to the monitor).  The resolution is 1920x1080, but it doesn't fill the entire screen
[02:32] <owdjaodopj> on windows there's black bars when i play
[02:33] <Senlis> plus, the nvidia-settings gives me the classic message "You do not appear to be using the NVIDIA X driver….run nvidia-xconfig"
[02:34] <wheatthin> Senlis, so run it as root
[02:34] <legg1> I've had nothing but problems with nvidia drivers, since 13.x releases :S
[02:35] <Senlis> same thing.  When I run nvidia-xconfig, it says the command does not exist
[02:35] <legg1> cant remember the last time an install actually worked properly
[02:35] <legg1> apt-get install nvidia-xconfig
[02:35] <eamagoo> ubottu I read the link you send me, I know that screen, the purple one with the keyboard but I cant see it! Alway black, I try disabling uefi, securebot, etc but always the same, the cd reads a lot of time but nothing on video, also try to change the tty but nothing
[02:35] <Senlis> unable to locate nvidia-xconfig
[02:36] <lotuspsychje> owdjaodopj: maybe this can help you? http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showthread.php?t=3097580
[02:36] <Senlis> I'm going to try re-installing the nvidia drivers after I have installed bumblebee
[02:36] <lotuspsychje> legg1: did you install nvidia-current?
[02:37] <legg1> tried yeah, same crap
[02:37] <legg1> tried god knows how many guides
[02:37] <lotuspsychje> legg1: plz keep it familly friendly mate
[02:37] <YokoBR> guys, how can i make a file be read by all users, but only root can change it?
[02:37] <Senlis> I was using the additional drivers, though I have tried many other guides too
[02:37] <eamagoo> The notebook is a Lenovo G480
[02:37] <lotuspsychje> !chmod | YokoBR
[02:37] <YokoBR> tip: my user is the owner, but my user shouldn't change it also
[02:38] <YokoBR> i know, but the problem is that i'm the owner.. so even if i give me no permission, i can change it again
[02:38] <lotuspsychje> legg1: graphics card chipset, ubuntu version? driver loaded?
[02:39] <Senlis> legg1 was responding to one of my questions :)
[02:39] <wheatthin> YokoBR, just give it no permissions and then chmod +r
[02:39] <YokoBR> sorry, but what is your problem, legg1?
[02:39] <fishcooker> how to remove lvm encyrption pass
[02:39] <fishcooker> ?
[02:39] <legg1> V3-771 laptop, Intel i7 apu + 730M Nvidia. XUbuntu 13.04, Ubuntu 13.04, and some others
[02:39] <legg1> same problems all around
[02:39] <ryanvade> Hello.
[02:39] <legg1> with drivers from nvidia.com, nvidia-current, etc
[02:39] <Senlis> I have a NVIDIA 670, ubuntu version 13.04, driver was loaded and working, except that it would freeze after about 30 seconds
[02:39] <Senlis> sorry, I guess legg1 was having nvidia problems
[02:40] <ryanvade> Has anyone worked with 3.12-rc3 on 13.04?
[02:40] <Dr_Willis> !find nvidia-config
[02:40] <legg1> But main problem right now, is the EFI being awful. just wont mount it, in manual or auto partitioning
[02:40] <Mr_Wizard> Senlis; have u run update after installing ubuntu 13?
[02:40] <Dr_Willis> !find nvidia-settings
[02:41] <lotuspsychje> legg1: what kind of 'problems' are we talking about?
[02:41] <Dr_Willis> !find nvidia-xconfig
[02:41] <Senlis> Mr_Wizard, I ran distro-update, but it didn't do anything
[02:41] <legg1> lotuspsychje: EFI one? Just doesnt mount /boot/efi during installation, then prompts me to go fix it in the partitioner, in which case there's nothing to fix
[02:42] <YokoBR> wheatthin, i've done that.. Well, there's a video cfg file that when i start Left 4 Dead 2 it changes automatically the 'antialias' part to 2, and it should stay 1.
[02:42] <Dr_Willis> legg1:  so there is a small partion at the start of the drive for the efi stuff to use?
[02:42] <YokoBR> so i want to make it stay as 1, and nobody could change it, even me.
[02:43] <lotuspsychje> YokoBR: plz read the url i triggered to you about permissions
[02:43] <legg1> Dr_Willis: Yeah, there's the 500mb EFI partition
[02:43] <YokoBR> ok, thanks
[02:43] <Mr_Wizard> Senlis; try running update manager
[02:43] <Dr_Willis> legg1:  well thats  the extent of my efi skills ;) my pcs are all too old
[02:43] <legg1> Feel lucky. EFI made things unnecessarily troublesome
[02:44] <Dr_Willis> legg1:  what filesystem is the partition?
[02:44] <lotuspsychje> Dr_Willis: same here :p got an old x800 running 13.04
[02:44] <legg1> Dr_Willis: Think it was fat32 for efi, and ext4 for the rest
[02:44] <Dr_Willis> legg1: sounds right to me.
[02:44] <lotuspsychje> legg1: what was default Os on your laptop?
[02:44] <Senlis> Mr_Wizard: my system was updated before, but now I enabled Pre-released updates.  should I install them?
[02:45] <Kasaak> hi guys
[02:45] <lotuspsychje> Kasaak: welcome, what can we do for you?
[02:45] <legg1> lotuspsychje: Windows 8
[02:45] <Kasaak> just trying to install ubuntu 13,04 from usb drive
[02:45] <Mr_Wizard> Senlis; is ther update for kernel?
[02:45] <wheatthin> Senlis, pre-released are cutting edge, and most often times will have bus
[02:45] <lotuspsychje> legg1: i recently installed 13.04 on a win8 machine dull disk, and didnt have to change anything in bios about uefi...
[02:46] <lotuspsychje> legg1: worked out of the box!
[02:46] <legg1> lotuspsychje: which is removed by the way. will have to try and disable uefi and burn another usbstick. see if i can boot it in legacy mode.
[02:46] <Senlis> Mr_Wizard: it has an update for Ubuntu base
[02:46] <Kasaak> and it stopped and has been stuck for a while
[02:46] <legg1> lotuspsychje: You installed it next to win8? in that case, there's probably a ubuntu-folder in your C drive
[02:46] <lotuspsychje> Kasaak: at wich part mate?
[02:46] <lotuspsychje> legg1: no, i used full disk for ubuntu
[02:46] <legg1> ah
[02:46] <Senlis> Mr_wizard: looks like there are some kernel updates contained
[02:47] <lotuspsychje> legg1: loose winblows once and for all mate :p
[02:47] <legg1> lotuspsychje: obviously, as said, i've removed it completely. just never had this problem before 13.x versions
[02:47] <Mr_Wizard> Senlis; u can try that or try recommende updates first
[02:47] <Kasaak> well it says the first line: [Bug]: unable to handle kernel paging request at 0000000800000002
[02:48] <Kasaak> and says some messages
[02:48] <Kasaak> lol
[02:48] <Senlis> Mr_Wizard: I have all the recommended updates, so I'll try the pre-release.  The only way I can break the computer more is if there isn't a display anymore :)
[02:48] <Kasaak> i would be cool to show you a picture
[02:48] <iamagrenade> Is there a way to lock a certain package so it doesn't change during an upgrade?  My wifi works on 8.10 but not any version after that.
[02:48] <lotuspsychje> Kasaak: at wich part of the setup, is it freezing?
[02:48] <legg1> Sweet, critical error while trying to install bootloader.
[02:49] <lotuspsychje> !8.04 | iamagrenade
[02:49] <Kasaak> the beggining i think, didn't even load the usb, i mean... there's this black screen and full of white text
[02:49] <lotuspsychje> iamagrenade: what chipset a,d did you try install 13.04?
[02:49] <Kasaak> just restarted my pc, booted from usb
[02:50] <iamagrenade> lotuspsychje: it's broadcom 4315
[02:50] <Kasaak> didn't even load graphic live cd to choose if i want to install or try
[02:50] <lotuspsychje> !b43 | iamagrenade
[02:51] <lotuspsychje> Kasaak: wich ubuntu version? is it older system or rather new?
[02:52] <Kasaak> its a new notebook (samsung np550p5c) trying to install ubuntu 13.04
[02:52] <lotuspsychje> iamagrenade: with installing firmware, your wifi should work
[02:52] <iamagrenade> thanks, i'll try this.  much appreciated.
[02:52] <lotuspsychje> iamagrenade: np mate!
[02:53] <lotuspsychje> Kasaak: so you seeing the part of setup you can choose livecd or install?
[02:53] <Senlis> do you think Nvidia will ever release drivers that are easy to use?
[02:53] <Kasaak> nope
[02:54] <lotuspsychje> Kasaak: hmm.. did you change bios to usb first boot?
[02:54] <Senlis> are ATI drivers any easier?
[02:54] <Mr_Wizard> Senlis; did u upgrade your ubuntu or fresh install?
[02:54] <Senlis> fresh install
[02:54] <Kasaak> yes
[02:54] <Senlis> i'm thinking it would be worth buying an ATI card to replace my NVIDIA one
[02:55] <lotuspsychje> Senlis: what driver did ubuntu use for default install?
[02:55] <Kasaak> restarted pc, i see purple screen says ubuntu
[02:55] <Senlis> I installed the pre-release updates.  I'm still getting a black border around my screen and it is only displaying on 1 of 3 monitors
[02:55] <lotuspsychje> Kasaak: then after that?
[02:55] <Kasaak> loading bar, then restarts
[02:55] <lotuspsychje> Kasaak: whats default Os of your laptop?
[02:55] <Dr_Willis> Kasaak:  try the text mode or nomodeset option at the grub menu
[02:55] <Kasaak> then black screen white writing
[02:55] <Senlis> is it possibly because one of my screens is connected through HDMI, I remember seeing that bumblebee has some problems with HDMI
[02:55] <Kasaak> same mesaage
[02:56] <Dr_Willis> Senlis:  yep. i saw someoine in here the othe rday with similer issues
[02:56] <Kasaak> might it be a wrong copy of the iso content to the usb drive?
[02:56] <Senlis> lets see what happens when I remove the monitor connected thru HDMI
[02:56] <Kasaak> ill try making the bootable usb again
[02:56] <Dr_Willis> Senlis:  black border can be overscan settings also
[02:56] <lotuspsychje> Kasaak: dont think so, try what Dr_Willis advices you
[02:57] <Senlis> where are the overscan settings?
[02:57] <Dr_Willis> !nomodeset | Kasaak
[02:57] <Mr_Wizard> Senlis; when was first time it crash?
[02:57] <Dr_Willis> Senlis:  in the nvidia-settings tool i recall
[02:57] <Dr_Willis> Senlis:  or in the monitors menus/settings
[02:58] <Senlis> Mr_Wizard: I properly installed the NVIDIA drivers by:
[02:58] <Senlis> sudo apt-get install build-essential linux-source-headers
[02:58] <Senlis> sudo apt-get install linux-libc-dev
[02:58] <Senlis> and then using the additional drivers
[02:59] <Dr_Willis> Senlis:  i thought you were using bumblebee>
[02:59] <Kasaak> wow, now booted, weird, didnd do anything
[02:59] <Kasaak> just restarted
[02:59] <Senlis> those were my steps before bumblebee
[02:59] <Kasaak> but it says that doesnt detect any os in the hdd
[03:00] <Kasaak> and thats not true
[03:00] <Dr_Willis> Senlis:  i dont think you install the nvidia drivers THEN instal bumblebee.. You just instgall  bumblebee and it sets it all up
[03:00] <Senlis> I got all three monitors working, and the computer ran with great performance.  Then , after 30 approx seconds the computer would crash
[03:00] <Kasaak> i've w7
[03:00] <Senlis> Dr_Willis: should I try purging nvidia and bumblebee and then install bumblebee?
[03:00] <lotuspsychje> Kasaak: plz try the nomodeset Dr_Willis has adviced you
[03:00] <Dr_Willis> Senlis:  no idea really now :) i dont use bumbleebee at all.
[03:01] <legg1> weird, debian installs just fine with efi
[03:01] <lotuspsychje> Senlis: 3 screens...on what graphics card?
[03:01] <Senlis> geforce 670
[03:01] <Dr_Willis> id cut down to 1 monitor - for testing also.
[03:01] <lotuspsychje> Senlis: did you play with xrandr?
[03:02] <Kasaak> lotuspsychje, but it booted, it lets me choose if i want to install or try
[03:02] <Senlis> lotuspsychje: no, i've never had much luck with xrandr
[03:02] <Kasaak> and when i go to files, and choose my hdd it says that its not authorizes to perform operation
[03:02] <Kasaak> authorized*
[03:02] <lotuspsychje> Kasaak: i know, but like Dr_Willis advices you should try a setup with lower settings to test..
[03:03] <Kasaak> ook
[03:03] <zhaotongxue> zhaotongxue
[03:03] <zhaotongxue> nice meet you
[03:03] <lotuspsychje> !zn | zhaotongxue
[03:04] <lotuspsychje> !cn | zhaotongxue
[03:04] <zhaotongxue> where are you for,
[03:04] <zhaotongxue> form
[03:04] <Senlis> so, what is a good ATI card that is comparable to the 670?
[03:04] <zhaotongxue> 原来不只有我用中文
[03:04] <lotuspsychje> zhaotongxue: this is an ubuntu support chat mate
[03:04] <zhaotongxue> i see.
[03:04] <zhaotongxue> i have a question
[03:04] <lotuspsychje> Senlis: i would focus on make your current card work...
[03:05] <zhaotongxue> how can i install both windows8 and linux(such as ubuntu)?
[03:05] <Zhaofeng_Li> Who pinged me? o.O
[03:05] <lotuspsychje> !dualboot | Zhaofeng_Li
[03:05] <Zhaofeng_Li> Ah, nevermind (/me highlights "zhao")
[03:05] <zhaotongxue> secure boot is a bad problem
[03:05] <zhaotongxue> chinese
[03:06] <zhaotongxue>  i know you are
[03:06] <lotuspsychje> Senlis: try a few ubuntu versions, with nvidia-current driver and play around with xrandr
[03:06] <Senlis> lotuspsychje: I should use bumblebee right?
[03:07] <lotuspsychje> !info bumblebee
[03:07] <lotuspsychje> Senlis: never tested it mate not sure
[03:07] <zhaotongxue> Zhaofeng_Li:where are you form?
[03:07] <lotuspsychje> !info nvidia-current | Senlis
[03:07] <zhaotongxue> which city?
[03:07] <zhaotongxue> I am in zhangzhou .
[03:07] <lotuspsychje> zhaotongxue: this is not a chat
[03:08] <zhaotongxue> i see.
[03:08] <zhaotongxue> sorry
[03:08] <lotuspsychje> zhaotongxue: ubuntu problems only plz
[03:08] <zhaotongxue> but what do you mian?
[03:08] <zhaotongxue> mean
[03:08] <Guest15530> i have a qestion i get this in my termail (:0) what does this mean ?
[03:08] <Dr_Willis> Guest15530:  get it where exactly?
[03:08] <lotuspsychje> bbl
[03:09] <Guest15530> under pts/1
[03:09] <zhaotongxue> how can i deal with secure boot>
[03:09] <Guest15530> does any body know this ?
[03:09] <Zhaofeng_Li> Guest15530, you mean "Terminal", right?
[03:09] <Guest15530> yes
[03:09] <Zhaofeng_Li> Guest15530, what did you get?
[03:10] <Guest15530> i got a  (:0) under who in the shell
[03:10] <Guest15530> i typed who and see who is on my computert
[03:10] <Dr_Willis> Guest15530:  and why do you think thats a problem?
[03:10] <Guest15530> and i got this  pts/1 (:0)
[03:10] <Zhaofeng_Li> zhaotongxue, you need to disable Secure Boot from the BIOS.
[03:10] <Zhaofeng_Li> zhaotongxue, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI#SecureBoot
[03:10] <Guest15530> not sure
[03:11] <zhaotongxue> but i could install ubuntu in my disk
[03:11] <Guest15530> just do not get that on my other ubunt
[03:11] <zhaotongxue> zhaofeng_ li
[03:11] <Dr_Willis> Guest15530:  its totally normal.   (:0) means the X display In this case
[03:11] <Guest15530> i did a tail
[03:11] <Guest15530> and got nothing
[03:11] <Dr_Willis>  tty7         2013-10-03 18:59 (:0)
[03:11] <Guest15530> i see
[03:11] <Guest15530> ok
[03:11] <Dr_Willis> tty7 -> the console X is running on
[03:11] <Guest15530> i see
[03:11] <Dr_Willis> pts/# - are shells and other virtual terminals
[03:11] <Guest15530> ok
[03:11] <Zhaofeng_Li> zhaotongxue, ...and you can get it booted?
[03:11] <Zhaofeng_Li> s/can/can't
[03:12] <zhaotongxue> what ?
[03:12] <Guest15530> so how can i get it so no other are running
[03:12] <Guest15530> just user / and root
[03:12] <Dr_Willis> Guest15530:  its totally normal. dont worry about it
[03:12] <Guest15530> ok
[03:12] <Dr_Willis> open 5 shells and you are in fact logged in 5 times..
[03:12] <zhaotongxue> i make the secure boot disable.but ubuntu couldnot be installed./
[03:13] <Guest15530> so all is ok then
[03:13] <Zhaofeng_Li> zhaotongxue: Which error message did you get?
[03:13] <Guest15530> my gpu is running very hard and cpu
[03:13] <Guest15530> it runs about 99% most of the time
[03:14] <Guest15530> it is a p4
[03:14] <Guest15530> x86
[03:14] <zhaotongxue> 0xc000007b
[03:14] <zhaotongxue> i remember it
[03:14] <Guest15530> it keeps locking up a lot on me
[03:14] <Ari-Yang> Guest15530, what graphics card do you have?
[03:14] <Guest15530> any ideas on how to make it run better
[03:15] <Guest15530> nv
[03:15] <Guest15530> mx 4000
[03:15] <Ari-Yang> Guest15530, type this in terminal lspci | grep VGA and copy and paste the output...
[03:15] <Guest15530> nv mx 4000
[03:15] <legg1> http://www.techlw.com/2012/04/add-separator-line-between-commands-on.html this is pretty sweet
[03:15] <Guest15530> VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation NV18 [GeForce4 MX 4000] (rev c1)
[03:15] <Guest15530>  
[03:15] <Guest15530>  
[03:15] <FloodBot1> Guest15530: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:16] <Ari-Yang> Guest15530, what ubuntu version are you running?....
[03:16] <Guest15530> humm
[03:16] <Guest15530> 12.04 lts
[03:16] <Guest15530> 1GB ram
[03:16] <skay> hi, I have a lenovo ideapad yoga, and I get a screen flicker periodically where the screen blinks with a lot of glitches. I'm having trouble describing it, so it is hard for me to do a search online to find troubleshooting tips
[03:16] <skay> I'm on raring
[03:17] <Guest15530> any ideas
[03:17] <Guest15530> cpu is at 43% on the avg  right now
[03:17] <Ari-Yang> Guest15530, you might be running open source drivers.... maybe you should try proprietary.... go to additional drivers option in settings
[03:18] <Guest15530> it does not see them
[03:18] <Ari-Yang> it's not there?
[03:18] <Guest15530> nope
[03:18] <SecretFire> is there a better filemanager than dolphin or thunar?
[03:18] <skay> the other thing that happened after the most recent ubuntu update -- I can no longer use an external monitor.
[03:19] <Guest15530> gnome
[03:19] <Guest15530> or should i down grade
[03:19] <Guest15530> to 11.04
[03:19] <Ari-Yang> no
[03:20] <Ari-Yang> that version is not supported
[03:20] <Guest15530> humm
[03:20] <Ari-Yang> Guest15530, type in terminal apt-cache search jockey-gtk
[03:20] <Guest15530> i run a p4 x86
[03:20] <Guest15530> what is that pkg
[03:20] <Ari-Yang> it's for additional drivers... check and see if you get an output
[03:21] <Guest15530> all ready have it
[03:21] <sf> hey guys !
[03:21] <Guest15530> nvida all ready in use
[03:22] <Ari-Yang> oh okay
[03:22] <Ari-Yang> Guest15530, are you using Unity?....
[03:22] <Guest15530> yes 3d
[03:22] <Ari-Yang> maybe that's why perhaps?
[03:22] <Guest15530> humm  go to 2d then ?
[03:22] <Ari-Yang> switch to Unity 2D or use a DE
[03:22] <Ari-Yang> yeah
[03:22] <Ari-Yang> !DE
[03:22] <Guest15530> ok
[03:22] <Guest15530> brb
[03:22] <Ari-Yang> !cinnamon
[03:23] <uldecka> hello
[03:23] <sf> how to connect smuxi to fb server ?
[03:24] <Dr_Willis> sf:  some irc clients have scripts or plugins to work with fb chat.
[03:25] <zykotick9> SecretFire: your question will have 100 different answers.  what's better/best for one person, is not better/best for everyone.
[03:25] <sf> Thanks Sir Dr_Willis
[03:25] <CrazyZurfer> to install ubuntu, I've to disable AHCI?
[03:26] <legg1> Think only windows is annoyed with disabling/enabling ahci
[03:27] <CrazyZurfer> legg1: so, it doesn't matter?
[03:28] <legg1> shouldnt matter. i've never disabled ahci for ubuntu
[03:28] <Dr_Willis> i think if you install with it on or off.. you may need to keep it on or off.. and not switch later
[03:28] <Dr_Willis> i seem to recall that issue - ages ago. it may no longer be an issue
[03:28] <legg1> what Dr_Willis, dont flick the switch AFTER install.
[03:29] <Dr_Willis> best to not flick :) from whast i recall
[03:29] <Dr_Willis> but try it and see
[03:29] <CrazyZurfer> I've disabled it for installing W7
[03:29] <CrazyZurfer> so.. I'll keep it
[03:35] <serapath> hi
[03:36] <serapath> how do i check if i have all drivers for my laptop?
[03:36] <serapath> it seems as some are missing
[03:39] <zykotick9> serapath: perhaps you should share, what isn't working?
[03:40] <legg1> serapath: lspci
[03:40] <legg1> should list everything you got
[03:41] <zykotick9> legg1: well, that will list the PCI devices...
[03:41] <Senlis> I installed bumblebee on a fresh install of Ubuntu and now my OS won't boot :(
[03:41] <legg1> zykotick9: i get graphics, sound, networking etc, with lspci
[03:41] <zykotick9> legg1: yes, your PCI devices ;)
[03:42] <legg1> zykotick9: not much else around though. unless he's installed some expansioncards, in which case it would be pretty clear what is missing ^^
[03:42] <zykotick9> serapath: actually lshw might be better (not something i use personally)
[03:42] <CrazyZurfer> well
[03:43] <CrazyZurfer> when trying to install it doesn't recognize my current OS
[03:43] <CrazyZurfer> says i don't have any previous OS in the hard drive
[03:43] <zykotick9> legg1: also be aware that may not show things lacking drivers currently
[03:45] <reisio> CrazyZurfer: what makes you think there's a current OS?
[03:45] <zykotick9> legg1: there is also lsusb and lscpu
[03:46] <CrazyZurfer> reisio: Because I can run W7?
[03:46] <CrazyZurfer> reisio: I've got W7 already installed
[03:46] <CrazyZurfer> reisio: I can navigate my files with the file navigator in the live cd
[03:47] <CrazyZurfer> reisio: but when choosing to install, doesn't recognize my w7 and shows that my whole 1TB disk is empty
[03:47] <reisio> CrazyZurfer: okay, and Ubuntu is working?
[03:47] <reisio> CrazyZurfer: ah
[03:47] <CrazyZurfer> reisio: Live CD
[03:47] <reisio> CrazyZurfer: can you not do the manual partition?
[03:48] <CrazyZurfer> reisio: I'm afraid of doing so, cause it shows me that it's empty, I could mess up my current W7 partition
[03:48] <serapath> hi
[03:49] <Paulus68_1> CrazyZurfer: try this guide http://lifehacker.com/5403100/dual+boot-windows-7-and-ubuntu-in-perfect-harmony
[03:50] <reisio> CrazyZurfer: the partitioner shows it as empty?
[03:50] <reisio> serapath: hi
[03:51] <BillDev> #Bitcoin
[03:51] <CrazyZurfer> reisio: http://s24.postimg.org/jz19wz545/Captura_de_pantalla_de_2013_10_04_03_48_55.png
[03:52] <CrazyZurfer> as you can see, it appears as empty space
[03:52] <CrazyZurfer> and I can see it has files in the file manager
[03:52] <legg1> CrazyZurfer: Do you only have one HDD? If not, is the others with win7 on a Raid-controller without drivers perhaps ?
[03:52] <legg1> Ah never mind, i see the browser
[03:53] <OY1R> i'm about to install ubuntu 12 lts on a 120gb ssd. i have ahci enabled, and read up on enabling trim. should i make a swap partition on just ditch the swap ?
[03:53] <reisio> CrazyZurfer: is it a laptop?
[03:53] <CrazyZurfer> reisio: yes, a new i7 laptop
[03:54] <CrazyZurfer> reisio: I say i7 cause I want to say that it's actually new and pretty good
[03:54] <reisio> uhuh
[03:54] <CrazyZurfer> i7 prossessor :)
[03:54] <legg1> CrazyZurfer: what happens if you click revertir, anything ?
[03:54] <Paulus68_1> CrazyZurfer: try this guide http://lifehacker.com/5403100/dual+boot-windows-7-and-ubuntu-in-perfect-harmony
[03:54] <CrazyZurfer> legg1: nope, anything happens
[03:54] <legg1> :S
[03:55] <CrazyZurfer> Paulus68_1: ok, i think that's the only thing I can do
[03:55] <CrazyZurfer> damn, this weird problems
[03:55] <reisio> I'd check gparted from the http://sysresccd.org/ image
[03:56] <reisio> and then look in the BIOS options and check for ata stuff
[03:56] <legg1> CrazyZurfer: You can try the Windows Ubuntu installer for a previous release, then dist-upgrade it to 13.04, or soon 13.10
[03:56] <Paulus68_1> CrazyZurfer: there are also some other guides to tell you have to use the same profile from firefox and such to share within both OS
[03:56] <legg1> then it HAVE to see your windows
[03:56] <Senlis> anybody that just join know the best way to use Geforce 670 on 13.04?
[03:57] <reisio> Senlis: install a driver, use it
[03:57] <Paulus68_1> legg1: if you check out my link you see that the best way of creating a dual boot in Win 7 is to resise the partition
[03:57] <Senlis> reisio: when I did that, the computer would freeze about 30 minutes after logging in
[03:57] <owdjaodopj> I have a steelseries 5h usb sound card I want to use when gaming... it's showing up as "Headphones - Audio adapter"... do I need to install some sort of linux drivers?
[03:58] <Senlis> reisio: worked fine on nouveau
[03:59] <CrazyZurfer> when is ubuntu 13.10 comming?
[03:59] <Paulus68_1> !13.10 |crazyZurfer
[03:59] <reisio> Senlis: so use nouveau?
[03:59] <legg1> 17th
[04:00] <owdjaodopj> I have a steelseries 5h usb sound card I want to use when gaming... it's showing up as "Headphones - Audio adapter"... do I need to install some sort of linux drivers? It works perfectly (plug and play) on winblows
[04:00] <Senlis> reisio: While that is a valid option, the NVIDIA drivers have a lot better performance
[04:00] <Paulus68_1> CrazyZurfer: but does gparted show when you run it on your live cd?
[04:00] <legg1> Nouveau got some serious performanceissues compared to prop drivers
[04:00] <CrazyZurfer> Paulus68_1: it shows me errors
[04:00] <reisio> serious is a stretch
[04:00] <Senlis> reisio, legg1: from what I saw on a benchmark a month ago, games would get 10 fps on nouveau that would get 200+ fps with NVIDIA
[04:01] <owdjaodopj> card 1: Set [C-Media USB Headphone Set], device 0: USB Audio [USB Audio]
[04:01] <owdjaodopj>   Subdevices: 1/1
[04:01] <owdjaodopj>   Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
[04:01] <reisio> Senlis: okay, you should try another version of the nvidia drivers, then
[04:01] <toothe> I"m still on this same damn roblem with RAID
[04:01] <owdjaodopj> it shows up fine with aplay -l go figure
[04:01] <reisio> toothe: what about raid?
[04:01] <serapath> hi
[04:01] <reisio> hi again, serapath
[04:01] <CrazyZurfer> Paulus68_1: http://s11.postimg.org/c124pb2qr/Captura_de_pantalla_de_2013_10_04_04_01_06.png
[04:01] <serapath> how can i update all my hardware and drivers?
[04:02] <Senlis> reisio: i've tried several different version of nvidia drivers.  I just found an interesting guide that shows how to blacklist nouveau before installing NVIDIA, i'm gonna try that
[04:02] <toothe> reisio: The damn installer is broken or something...
[04:02] <serapath> i have a feeling like a lot of them are not installed properly, but dont know how to check it and update if necessary
[04:02] <Paulus68_1> CrazyZurfer: can you boot into your win7 run diagnostigs and try again
[04:02] <toothe> reisio: Out of frustration I madethis short video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9pPn28VzGeo
[04:03] <CrazyZurfer> Paulus68_1: Might me I did something wrong when installing w7, cause the pc came with W8 and i deleted all partitions because of this GPT
[04:03] <reisio> phones should realy come with tripods
[04:04] <CrazyZurfer> Paulus68_1: what is diagnostigs, is it a microsoft's software?
[04:04] <reisio> toothe: what's the problem?
[04:04] <Paulus68_1> CrazyZurfer: when possible to a reinstall of win8 or win 7 and during install remove all the partitions,
[04:04] <toothe> reisio: I'm trying to install Ubuntu Server, and I cannot get past the RAID part.
[04:04] <toothe> reisio: Let me start from the beginning.
[04:04] <toothe> I have 2 TB HD's that I want to install Linux on, RAID 1
[04:04] <reisio> toothe: what do you want raid for
[04:05] <toothe> data backup and redundancy
[04:05] <toothe> reisio: So, my understanding is that you can do whole-disk raid, correct?
[04:05] <reisio> that isn't what raid is for
[04:05] <toothe> I want RAID 1, if that answers the question...
[04:05] <CrazyZurfer> Paulus68_1: I've deleted all partitions, even samsung's recovery
[04:05] <reisio> you can do a number of things with raid, but none of them are for backups
[04:05] <legg1> closest would be mirroring ^^
[04:06] <toothe> wrong word, pardon the usage of that word. I meant to say MIrroring, RAID 1
[04:06] <Paulus68_1> CrazyZurfer: when you are in your windows explorer right click on your hardrive and then click properties go to the second tab tools and there you have error checking and defragmantation
[04:06] <reisio> toothe: what do you want that for?
[04:06] <toothe> reisio: If one HD blows up, the second is still functional.
[04:06] <CrazyZurfer> Paulus68_1: Ok, i'll try
[04:06] <reisio> toothe: that's not really how it works
[04:06] <toothe> reisio: But, I cnanot get past the installation of the HD's.
[04:06] <toothe> reisio: ...yes it is...
[04:06] <reisio> nope
[04:06] <legg1> it's exactly what it's for ;o
[04:06] <CrazyZurfer> I'll be back soon
[04:07] <legg1> failsafe incase a drive breaks
[04:07] <toothe> exactly.
[04:07] <legg1> replace it, rebuild, no dataloss
[04:07] <toothe> legg1: Exactly.
[04:07] <toothe> so, te installation guide tells me to do something that does not work.
[04:07] <toothe> the installation guide tells me to make a RAID drive bootable, but that option is not possible.
[04:08] <legg1> unfortunately i've never used software raid via the OS, only via raidcontroller, so dont know about that :/
[04:08] <toothe> gah, I don't know where to begin...
[04:08] <Dr_Willis> sure its not saying to use the bios and select the raid drive as the boot device?
[04:08] <toothe> so, during the install, I go to Manual configuration of the partition.
[04:08] <legg1> cant you turn the controller into a raid-controller in the bios, and build the mirror there? should show up as a normal disk and easily make it bootable
[04:09] <Dr_Willis> i dident think the boot flag mattered to grub or ubuntu
[04:09]  * toothe checks
[04:11] <Shabrawy> hello
[04:11] <Shabrawy> i wanna build ubuntu with some little tools
[04:11] <Shabrawy> how i could do that
[04:11] <Dr_Willis> !remaster
[04:12] <Dr_Willis> Shabrawy:  easy way would be to make a live-usb with the tools
[04:12] <legg1> can even make a install-iso out of your current operationsystem with all settings and apps
[04:12] <legg1> so you can have a easy reinstall like factory reset for recoverypartitions etc
[04:13] <Shabrawy> i wanna make a small OS
[04:13] <reisio> Shabrawy: why's that?
[04:13] <Shabrawy> may be 30 MB
[04:13] <legg1> DSL
[04:13] <reisio> Shabrawy: why
[04:13] <legg1> it's already done
[04:13] <reisio> you time travelling to the 1970s?
[04:13] <Dr_Willis> tinycorelinux = 35mb
[04:13] <Shabrawy> i want to install it on thin clint
[04:13] <reisio> thin client doesn't mean 30MB
[04:13] <legg1> http://www.damnsmalllinux.org/ 50mb
[04:14] <Shabrawy> ya but it only with 32 MB flash
[04:14] <Shabrawy> i got alot of them
[04:14] <reisio> that's a ridiculous, fantastical constraint
[04:14] <Dr_Willis> microcore linux = 10mb
[04:14] <Shabrawy> ok that's cool
[04:14] <reisio> well glue them to your floor and you'll have done something useful with them
[04:14] <legg1> Linux 0.1 was what, 800kb or something?
[04:14] <Shabrawy> hhhhhhhhhhh
[04:15] <Shabrawy> the other porbose
[04:15] <Dr_Willis> i thought a thin client could do netboots from a server
[04:16] <Shabrawy> ya it can
[04:16] <Shabrawy> but i don't know what kind of solutions to use for this
[04:16] <Shabrawy> the mail problem is i want pcoip support
[04:16] <Shabrawy> on small os
[04:17] <legg1> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DisklessUbuntuHowto this for example
[04:17] <spinningcompass> ah, the heady days of 32KB operating systems
[04:18] <Dr_Willis> back to work on my RaspberryPi 'super computer' with 512mb of ram.
[04:18] <legg1> haha
[04:18] <Dr_Willis> ;)
[04:18] <spinningcompass> Shabrawy: There's always Puppy Dog Linux. It's rather small… 300MB? 400MB of disk usage maybe?
[04:18] <Shabrawy> ya i've downloaded it
[04:18] <Dr_Willis> Puppy Linux is a very very weird linux in many ways
[04:19] <Shabrawy> but it dosn't support pcoip
[04:19] <Dr_Willis> no idea wht pcoip even is.
[04:19] <Shabrawy> pcoip it a protocol for DVI
[04:20] <Shabrawy> used in vmware view
[04:20] <Shabrawy> it has alot good stuff
[04:20] <Shabrawy> flash compressing
[04:20] <Shabrawy> in rdp
[04:20] <Shabrawy> the p
[04:21] <Shabrawy> the streaming looks like fuzzy
[04:21] <Shabrawy> but in pcoip it dosn't
[04:28] <KxTwo> ok probably a DUMB question.  I am using 12.04lts.  On other distros there is a places menu that allows me to ssh into other machines.  How do I do that here?
[04:28] <Dr_Willis> so you are doing all this work for watching videos on a thin client?
[04:29] <Dr_Willis> KxTwo:  theres a connect to server.. item in the nautilus menus
[04:29] <toothe> Oes Ubuntu's installer have fdisk anywhere? I can't seem tof in dit.
[04:29] <Dr_Willis> KxTwo:  i also use the 'sshfs' tool a lot for mounting ssh servers to a local directory
[04:29] <reisio> toothe: might have been replaced by gdisk/gptfdisk/gfdisk, but I doubt it
[04:30] <Dr_Willis> toothe:  fdisk is considered a bit out dated these days with gpt drives and so forth
[04:30] <reisio> or even parted
[04:30] <Dr_Willis> ther should be cfdisk also
[04:30] <KxTwo> Dr_Willis, I use it to connect to my school server so I can can move around more easily.  I like to have that open with a shell for compiling and it seems to work well fo rme.
[04:30] <toothe> I don't see any of those in myoptions...
[04:30] <Dr_Willis> KxTwo:  i just open a terminak and ssh to the server. ;) no need for a menu
[04:30] <Dr_Willis> toothe:  cfdisk is a cli tool
[04:30] <reisio> toothe: options?
[04:30] <KxTwo> no need for a menu?
[04:31] <Dr_Willis> KxTwo:  i ssh to my server fr a shell, or use sshfs to access files
[04:31] <toothe> reisio: in my /bin or /bin
[04:31] <KxTwo> Oh while I am here.  Everytime I have updates it crashes if I click on install updates, I have to SHOW updates then install for some reason?
[04:31] <toothe> sory, /sbin
[04:31] <toothe> wow, surely there's an fdisk option somewhere here..
[04:31] <Dr_Willis> !find fdisk
[04:31] <Dr_Willis> sudo apt-get install gnu-fdisk
[04:32] <legg1> gj :p
[04:32] <reisio> parted is better anyways
[04:32] <toothe> Dr_Willis: I'm in the installer, which doesn't have apt-get.
[04:32] <toothe> the installer's console.
[04:33] <KxTwo> ok is there a way I can pin the connect to server to the unity bar or somethign? It is actually a hassle to get to it if I have windows open
[04:33] <Dr_Willis> toothe:  no idea then. desktop live cd. lets me.
[04:33] <toothe> yah, this is getting crazy.
[04:33] <Dr_Willis> KxTwo:  you could make a quicklist for  the terminal icon if you wanted. or make a gnome-terminal session that starts up the ssh connection
[04:34] <AlonzoTG> Is it possible to ___FORCE___ Ubuntu to attempt to connect to a selected wireless network? I can't find an option to connect to anything anywere.
[04:34] <AlonzoTG> I can see networks alright but there is no menu item to connect to any of them.
[04:34] <KxTwo> ok this is disappionting, the older versions had this set up better.
[04:34] <KxTwo> Though I heard that 13.04 has "places" again
[04:34] <Dr_Willis> AlonzoTG:  you could alwyas try the cli tools. or try the connect to hidden network.
[04:34] <AlonzoTG> It's not hidden.
[04:35] <AlonzoTG> It's listed in the menu,
[04:35] <AlonzoTG> I can edit it.
[04:35] <toothe> can Icall someone her?
[04:35] <Dr_Willis> KxTwo:  theres always indicator applets to get some of that stuff
[04:35] <AlonzoTG> I can set a password,
[04:35] <FloodBot1> AlonzoTG: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:35] <AlonzoTG> BUT i CA'NT CONNECT TO THE GODDAMNED MOTHERFUCKING THING!!!!
[04:35] <Dr_Willis> AlonzoTG:  and you can still try the hidden menu thing even if its seen
[04:36] <KxTwo> I would just edit with nano but havent figured out how to get syntax highlighting working lol
[04:36] <Dr_Willis> KxTwo:  i recall some indicaor applets that had lists of ssh servers you can connect to.
[04:36] <Dr_Willis> KxTwo:  what are you doing exactly - accessing files on the remote as if they were local files or needing a shell?
[04:37] <KxTwo> Dr_Willis, just accessing my project files and editing them.
[04:37] <Dr_Willis> KxTwo:  you could use sshfs and mount the server to a local folder when you login.
[04:37] <KxTwo> no need to get crazy
[04:38] <Dr_Willis> its a better solution in many ways then what you are doing
[04:38] <KxTwo> this seems to work fine
[04:38] <KxTwo> not really sure what makes it that much better
[04:39] <Dr_Willis> sshfs works with any apps. cli, gnome, or whatever can access a local file. the apps cant tell the differance..  You can set the mount at boot time, or  when you login,  you dont even NEED to login if you set it to mount them at boot.. you can use it from  the cli/console/ssh only
[04:40] <Dr_Willis> plus it works with  any of the desktops, or window managers
[04:40] <reisio> sshfs is indeed nice and straightforward
[04:40] <reisio> and even secure
[04:40] <Dr_Willis> nautilus and its .gvfs stuff can be.. picky at times. ;)
[04:41] <fishcooker> i've box that user should enter passphrase before mounting the root partition .. i think lvm encrypted.. how to disable this feature
[04:41] <Dr_Willis> hmm.. the root partion has to be mounted when the system boots. so somthing seems weird there fishcooker
[04:42] <Dr_Willis> you mean it asks at boot up?
[04:42] <OY1R> just installed 12.04, it boots up to cli, how do i set it up to start x at boot.
[04:43] <Dr_Willis> OY1R:  you installed the servver or desktop edition?
[04:43] <OY1R> desktop.
[04:44] <OY1R> unity is installed, but i have to login and startx manually.
[04:44] <Dr_Willis> try 'sudo service lightdm restart' and see if it starts x
[04:44] <Dr_Willis> err.. startx is not installed by defaukt i thought any more. unity is,
[04:45] <Dr_Willis> lightdm is set to start by default on a normal ubuntu install
[04:45] <OY1R> yea i start unity with startx
[04:45] <serapath> leggl lspci? zykotick9 lots of stuff, but obviously the graphic card doesnt work, but also the wireless lan cannot connect to wlans on channel 11+
[04:46] <Dr_Willis> OY1R: try 'sudo service lightdm restart' and see if it starts x
[04:46] <Dr_Willis> or sudo service lightdm start
[04:46] <OY1R> that killed unity, now it's just blinking  _ _
[04:47] <OY1R> i had unity running but manually with startx after reboot.
[04:48] <serapath> ;eggl zykotick9 also i dont have sound on youtube
[04:48] <serapath> legg1:
[04:48] <serapath> so: no 3d effects, no sound, no wlan > channel 11
[04:48] <OY1R> ah maybe it did do the trick, i'm now getting the normal login (gui)
[04:49] <serapath> my notebook is slow as hell,even though its 2x2,5ghz+4gb RAM
[04:49] <Dr_Willis> restarting lightdm will kill off any current X session
[04:50] <Dr_Willis> and lightdm should start automatically by default. unless you are booting into Text mode, or recovery mode. or have disabled the service
[05:01] <Mr_Wizard> hello anyone
[05:05] <Mr_Wizard> can some1 give the link to ubuntu logs
[05:06] <AlonzoTG> solved it, the wifi card I use goes down on any soft-boot or suspend mode, the machine must be cold-booted for the wifi to work. =(((
[05:08] <justanotheruser> Is there a way to not allow myself to connect to the internet unless I'm connected to my VPN? I'm using nm-applet as my gui interface and an openvpn VPN.
[05:10] <wheatthin> justanotheruser, only allowing in and out access to the vpn host itself via firewall rules
[05:10] <toothe> okay, I think I'm making progress now.
[05:14] <NastyNaz> ok i just made a 4096 bit self signed ssl certificate for my server so I can use https with it. how do I trust the certificate?
[05:15] <zykotick9> Mr_Wizard: you mean #ubuntu logs, or the logs on your system?
[05:17] <Mr_Wizard> zykotick9, thanks i mean #ubuntu logs
[05:17] <zykotick9> !logs | Mr_Wizard
[05:17] <Mr_Wizard> ubottu, thanks
[05:18] <justanotheruser> How do I only allow in and out access to my vpn host via firewall rules through command lines
[05:19] <uronu> Any one knows how to authenticate samba shared folder with ldap. I was able to authenticate the samba server shared folder with ldap server in one unit. But how about separate servers.... samba server shared folder on the other unit and the ldap server in another unit? any ideas.
[05:21] <toothe> nope
[05:22] <toothe> I need to maket his fucking device bootable.
[05:23] <wilee-nilee> !language | toothe
[05:23] <Dr_Willis> and by that do you mean 'set the boot flag on the partition' ? or 'install grub to the mbr of the drive'
[05:23] <toothe> ubottu: I apologize...
[05:24] <toothe> Dr_Willis: A partition can be set as bootable.
[05:24] <toothe> however, for whatever odd reason, this device is not bootlab.e
[05:24] <Dr_Willis> 'set as bootable' in your terms means you want to set the boot flag?
[05:25] <toothe> yes.
[05:26] <Dr_Willis> I do belive that in linux and grub. the bootflag is a meaningless and ignored flag. Which is why im asking in such clear terms.
[05:26] <toothe> Dr_Willis: So, I am unable to install grub on /dev/sda
[05:26] <toothe> I do not know why.
[05:28] <toothe> Dr_Willis: So, I am trying to install grub and I receive an eror during the install stating that grub cannot be installed.
[05:28] <toothe> Dr_Willis: do I need to have free space at the beginning of the drive for grub to write on?
[05:28] <toothe> perhaps that's the issue?
[05:29] <Dr_Willis> so the install finishes. and then the final steps of grub setup. it mentions an error
[05:29] <Dr_Willis> grub files go into /boot/ and grub bootloader goes onto the MBR of the drive
[05:29] <toothe> it does...let me regenerate the error.
[05:29] <Dr_Willis> You Might want to try the boot-repair tool from a live-cd.  I dont know how smart it is when dealing with raid
[05:33] <Dr_Willis> this url mentions command line ways of instlling grub.  but again i dont see any mention of raid specific notes or warnings.  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/Installing
[05:34] <Dr_Willis> Unable to install GRUB in /dev/sdb
[05:34] <Dr_Willis> Executing 'grub-install '/dev/sdb' failed.
[05:34] <Dr_Willis> is that the error? (or close)
[05:34] <serapath> hi
[05:35] <NastyNaz> anyone know of an easy way to serve up .mp3 files for people to listen to via http? something like soundcloud but for a personal website
[05:35] <Paulus68_1> toothe: you stated earlier that you are not able to install Grub on  /dev/sda now you are talking about sdb? or am I wrong here
[05:36] <serapath> i'm already beginning to dislike ubuntu again :-(
[05:36] <serapath> no sound, no 3d, wifi issues
[05:37] <serapath> and lack of knowledge how to open programs through hotkeys or how to customize my desktop
[05:37] <Dr_Willis> http://askubuntu.com/questions/43036/how-do-i-install-grub-on-a-raid-system-installation  mentions several possible work arounds.. but i dont know what ones woukld apply to you toothe
[05:37] <Dr_Willis> 'lack of knowledge' is always an issue. but fixable. ;)
[05:37] <Dr_Willis> !manual
[05:37] <Paulus68_1> serapath: everybody needs to learn
[05:38] <Dr_Willis> as for the rest.. that may be harder
[05:38] <serapath> Paulus68_1: yeah sure, if i run windows, i have sound,have 3d, have no wifi issues
[05:38] <Paulus68_1> serapath: as for the wifi can you run sudo lshw>lshw.txt
[05:38]  * Dr_Willis has had more sound, wifi, and 3d issues on windows ...  ;)
[05:39] <serapath> Paulus68_1: wifi works, but it doesnt work on channel > 11 ...but i just changed my router to use channel 8 now, so its ok now, but no sound and no 3d is awful
[05:39] <OY1R> my only major beef with Ubuntu is the switch to unity. other than that it's great.
[05:39] <Dr_Willis> lspci command can also tell us the wifi chipset. whioch will be a critical bit of info to get wifi going
[05:40] <Dr_Willis> OY1R:  and how long have you been using unity now?
[05:40] <OY1R> i dont.
[05:40] <OY1R> i'm on 10.04
[05:40] <Paulus68_1> serapath: also lshw can inform you which driver you need to install for sound and 3D
[05:40] <Dr_Willis> so your only beef is with somthing that aparently you have never used. ;)
[05:40] <tech2> Hi all, I just upgraded to saucy and one of the ppas I was using isn't available. But that's ok since saucy provides a version sufficient to cover my needs. However, the ppa provided a version 0.005 later than the ubuntu release, so it's not just a matter of apt-get upgrade. How do I force apt to install the ubuntu version without uninstalling entirely (since it's a dep of ubuntu-minimal)?
[05:41] <OY1R> Dr_Willis, i tried it, but went back.
[05:41] <tech2> I guess I'd also prefer avoiding pinning it to a particular version if possible?
[05:41] <serapath> Paulus68_1: lots of stuff in that file
[05:41] <Dr_Willis> tech2:  you dont want to force the system to use a ppa thats for a differnt release. the ppa should get updated i imagine when 13.10 gets finalized
[05:41] <Paulus68_1> serapath: try to locate your sound card
[05:42] <tech2> Dr_Willis: perhaps it will, but I don't need the ppa at all any more (ubuntu proper provides a version with the requisite functionality), how do I revert to the ubuntu-provided package?
[05:42] <Dr_Willis> !ppa-purge
[05:42] <Dr_Willis> actually if you upgraded. the ppa may have allready been disabled and purged
[05:43] <Dr_Willis> but i guess you can try to purge it manually
[05:43] <serapath> description: VGA compatible controller              product: 3rd Gen Core processor Graphics Controller              vendor: Intel Corporation
[05:43] <serapath> escription: Audio device              product: 7 Series/C210 Series Chipset Family High Definition Audio Controller              vendor: Intel Corporation
[05:46] <Paulus68_1> serapath: can you check if your laptop/pc is listed here http://www.ubuntu.com/certification/catalog/component/pci/8086:1e20/
[05:46] <tech2> Dr_Willis: the ppa was disabled, but the installed packages were still present. Thanks, looks like ppa-purge is fixing it.
[05:47] <l624> Any installed ubunt on Phone?
[05:47] <Dr_Willis> tech2:  odd that the ppa had a newer one then the updated release. :)
[05:47] <Dr_Willis> !touch | l624
[05:48] <serapath> Paulus68_1: nope
[05:48] <tech2> Dr_Willis: bluez, the kernel, there's a few. In this case it was a snapshots repo for vim, so I'm not _too_ surprised.
[05:48] <l624> thanks wills
[05:53] <Paulus68_1> serapath: sorry I'm running out of options here
[05:53] <Dr_Willis> gotta have the latest vim ;) they are always adding so many new features.  heh.
[05:53] <Dr_Willis> or not.
[05:53] <serapath> https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Lenovo_Ideapad_G580
[05:54] <serapath> would it be a solution to install arch instead of ubuntu?
[05:54] <Dr_Willis> heh - i always 'find' answers on the archlinux wiki also.
[05:54] <serapath> sounds as if it works with arch
[05:54] <Dr_Willis> often the answers can be used on ubuntu
[05:54] <Xeeshu> Morning!
[05:54] <Hundred> howdy :)
[05:54] <Dr_Willis> but its weird that intel stuff is not working.  normally Intel hardware is very problem free
[05:55] <serapath> i have no 3d
[05:56] <serapath> this is one of the things i hate most
[05:56] <serapath> drivers not working
[05:56] <Dr_Willis> thers only 3 questions in total about the ideapad g580 on askubuntu.com
[05:56] <serapath> this is the single most important issue that always made me go back to windows
[05:56] <serapath> and i'm already thinking about just uninstalling ubuntu and go back to win7
[05:57] <serapath> win7 works like a charm
[05:57] <Dr_Willis> intel does have their 'latest drivers installer tool' at that 01.org site i recall. and theres the xorg edgers ppa.
[05:57] <OY1R> serapath, i feel your pain, just hang on in there.
[05:57] <serapath> every time i try ubuntu, which is maybe every 12 to 24 months.... its the same sad experience
[05:58] <Dr_Willis> Hmm. This guys G580 has a differnt wireless card then what you said you had above.
[05:58] <serapath> for example, in windows i have the hardware manager displaying all my hardware and wether it has the newest drivers installed or whether there is a problem with it
[05:58] <serapath> why is there not such a thing in ubuntu? or is there?
[05:58] <Dr_Willis> the drivers are normally all built into the kernel. so its actualy only a few cases that you update just the 'drivers'
[05:59] <Dr_Willis> totally differnt design philsoply then how wondows does it
[05:59] <OY1R> iirc the hardware manager in Windows shows what hardware is installed based on the drivers installed.
[05:59] <serapath> even if it hadnt all the drivers, at least i would know what to look for and when it works... second: i cant install chrome from the software center, same with brackets, same with sublime.. i could do it with apt-get, but then i only can start it from console and its not added to my "shortcut bar"
[06:00] <Dr_Willis> Ive definatly had the windows hardware manager be brain dead. "insert driver disk for 'generic pci wireless card'"  great. ;)
[06:00] <gulag2013> chrome no , chromium-browser is in the software center
[06:00] <serapath> Dr_Willis: i had that too, but those times are gone since windows vista, stayed gone with win7 and havent come back with win8
[06:00] <Dr_Willis> as for sublime. - the sublime faq. and i think the omgubuntu, and/or webupd8 blog site mention getting an icon launcher for it.
[06:00] <serapath> the last time that stuff occured was winXP
[06:01] <Dr_Willis> serapath:  i had it happen with windows 7 just a few weeks ago. ;)
[06:01] <serapath> ok
[06:01] <Dr_Willis> but it was a very very cheap bit of hardware. ;)
[06:01] <serapath> is there another distribution that would more easily solve this automatically?
[06:01] <Dr_Willis> as for google chrome. I think you just go get the deb from the google homepage. and i normally do a 'sudo gdebi chrome.deb' and it sets it up
[06:01] <serapath> maybe linux mint_
[06:01] <serapath> ?
[06:02] <Hundred> yeah mint is good
[06:02] <Dr_Willis> serapath:  go try them and see. we cant keep track of all the other disretos
[06:02] <Hundred> serpawhat cpu you have? jw
[06:02] <Dr_Willis> Most intel drivers are built into the kernel and X with the open sourced drivers.  so its unusual that intel hardwre has issues.
[06:03] <Hundred> like what kind if intel cpu? jw
[06:03] <Dr_Willis> if any other disrto was using the exact same kernel version, and exact same X version. i would expect the same issues. If its a kernel/X issue
[06:05] <serapath> http://shop.lenovo.com/us/en/laptops/essential/g-series/g580/index.html#techspecs
[06:06] <Dr_Willis> weems theres a lot of variants of that laptop also
[06:06] <Dr_Willis> http://blog.peacon.co.uk/ubuntu-12-10-on-the-lenovo-g580-i5-3210m/  seems to be a guide on getting 'everything' working
[06:06] <Dr_Willis> but its still loading here. (cell phone) :)
[06:07] <tehrealjared> Am i irc'ing
[06:07] <Dr_Willis> seems they got a guide for newere releases also
[06:07] <Dr_Willis> tehrealjared:  yes.
[06:07] <tehrealjared> Im new to this
[06:07] <Dr_Willis> http://blog.peacon.co.uk/ubuntu-13-04-on-the-lenovo-g580-i5-3210m/
[06:09] <Dr_Willis> !irc | tehrealjared
[06:09] <Dr_Willis> have fun and ask any ubuntu support questions you may have tehrealjared
[06:10] <tehrealjared> Wow thanks
[06:10] <Hundred> yeah serapath try out linux mint, you'll like it since it is more similar to windows, ubuntu is more similar to mac
[06:11] <serapath> Hundred: hahaha, ubuntu isnt similar to mac in the slightest. that's a joke, right?
[06:11] <Dr_Willis> i dont find ubuntu similer to mac at all. . ;)
[06:11] <Dr_Willis> and mint is more closer to the old gnome2 i belive.
[06:12] <OY1R> i installed mint 13 on my stationary pc. works great.
[06:12] <serapath> actually, what i currently miss the most is two things: 1. all drivers/hardware work out of the box, 2. awesome hotkeys for my GUI
[06:12] <Hundred> yeah its becoming really popular now for some reason
[06:13] <serapath> is there another popular distro beside ubuntu and mint?
[06:13] <serapath> that just work?
[06:13] <OY1R> i'd like Ubuntu on there but unity put me off, hence Mint.
[06:13] <serapath> ...or at least are supposed to just work?
[06:13] <OY1R> serapath, distro that just works is Ubuntu. (99% of the time)
[06:13] <Dr_Willis> from what ive been googling ubuntu just works on that g580 for most people
[06:14] <Dr_Willis> im finding very few people having issues with it
[06:14] <OY1R> more like >99.5%
[06:14] <Dr_Willis> but it could be theres differnt variants
[06:14] <serapath> OY1R cant be true, because during my life time, i tried ubuntu at least 6 times and always went back to windows. between each time,there was around 12 to 24 months
[06:15] <serapath> and it NEVER worked out of the box
[06:15] <Dr_Willis> go hit up disrtowatch and grab some iso's make some live usb's and test them out
[06:15] <serapath> so 99% is a joke too :-) its statistically impossible that i have so much bad luck
[06:15] <serapath> :P
[06:15] <toothe> so, I have grub running now
[06:15] <Dr_Willis> or theres somthing screwy with that laptop. :)
[06:15] <toothe> but...that's all I have running. I have no kernel options.
[06:15] <serapath> ...impossible = very very unlikely
[06:15] <toothe> this is insanity.
[06:15] <OY1R> you must me messing up stuff then !
[06:15] <Hundred> http://www.zdnet.com/mint-15-todays-best-linux-desktop-review-7000015691/
[06:15] <OY1R> :p
[06:15] <serapath> what about mageia?
[06:15] <Hundred> http://www.linuxuser.co.uk/reviews/linux-mint-15-review-close-to-perfection
[06:16] <Dr_Willis> serapathisisa a ubuntu suport channel. if you want info about other distroes. hit up their channels.. or just go try them
[06:16] <Dr_Willis> pendrivelinux has tools to let you put several dozen disrto's live cd's on a single iso file
[06:16] <Dr_Willis> oops single USB drive. ;)
[06:17] <Hundred> here are the most popular linux distros on http://distrowatch.org/
[06:17] <Dr_Willis> try a varity or them, redhat, slackware, ubuntu and variants, try some weird ones like tinycorelinux, and puppylinux
[06:17] <keanne> imho, for home use, the "just works" is true for majority of users. but for business workstations, any linux distro is hardly the case in my experience.
[06:18] <Dr_Willis> elemantry os - is worth looking at also if you want to test
[06:18] <Hundred> linux mint and ubuntu are distros that tend to just work, no need to manually code anything
[06:20] <OY1R> i installed Ubuntu 12.04 lts on a laptop a few hours ago, same laptop refused to run linux mint, sluggish and slow as h... Ubuntu on the other hand runs great.
[06:21] <Hundred> both Ubuntu (full 2d version) and Linux Mint (Cinnamon) require more powerful computers
[06:21] <Hundred> 3d verion*
[06:22] <vijaya> checking for TTF_Linked_Version in -lSDL_ttf... no
[06:22] <vijaya> configure: error: *** Unable to find SDL_ttf library
[06:22] <vijaya> I have got this error while configuring ostbox to arm
[06:22] <vijaya> can anyone tell me why this is happening
[06:24] <Zhaofeng_Li> vijaya, try installing libsdl1.2-dev?
[06:25] <vijaya> I have installed that eventhough it is showing same error
[06:25] <Zhaofeng_Li> oops, libsdl-ttf2.0-dev is more relevant
[06:25] <OY1R> it's no powerhouse of a laptop, but good enough for web stuff and solitary! (~2ghz cpu 4gb ram and 120gb ssd)
[06:25] <vijaya> I have tried in both ways even it is showing same error..
[06:25] <Hundred> OY1R you can try out Lubuntu or Xubuntu, they are both more lightweight compare to Ubuntu and Mint
[06:26] <Valdus> hello, I got a thinkpad today and i'm running ubuntu.  just wondering if anyone knows if there are any other options for using the fingerprint scanner other than the 'fingerprint-gui' package
[06:26] <vijaya> one doubt I have, do I need to crosscompile the SDL for arm???
[06:26] <wadie> problem: I can't see the video but can hear the audio. it happens on media player and VLC.
[06:27]  * Zhaofeng_Li is not familiar with that, sorry
[06:27] <wadie> using unity 2d
[06:27] <OY1R> it runs unity fine(My fathers laptop), i wont touch it tho.
[06:28] <OY1R> i'm on an old dell inspiron 9400. it runs like a dream. 2ghz intel core 2, 4gb ram and a 500gb hybrid drive.
[06:28] <OY1R> 10.04
[06:29] <vijaya> has anyone faced this problem ever..... configure: error: *** Unable to find SDL_ttf library
[06:30] <Moicano0> list
[06:30] <Moicano0> #list
[06:31] <arquebus> I just installed Ubuntu on my new laptop and it will only boot into the bios (eufi) screen. what is the prefered way to get Ubuntu to run on a eufi laptop?
[06:31] <aeon-ltd> vijaya: ttf -> truetypefont?
[06:31] <Dr_Willis> !find sdl_fft
[06:31] <Dr_Willis> oops :)
[06:31] <Dr_Willis> !find sdl_ttf
[06:32] <vijaya>  sry aeon-ltd: I donot have much idea about that SDL_ttf
[06:32] <Dr_Willis> libsdl-ttf2.0-0 - TrueType Font library for Simple DirectMedia Layer 1.2, libraries
[06:32] <Dr_Willis> that looks close to me. )
[06:32] <Dr_Willis> what are you trying to compile anyway?
[06:32] <vijaya> problem is while linking....
[06:33] <vijaya> ./configure --prefix=$PREFIX --exec-prefix=$PREFIX --host=arm-linux CC=/home/vijaya/Desktop/xtools/arm-unknown-linux-uclibcgnueabi/bin/arm-unknown-linux-uclibcgnueabi-gcc
[06:33] <vijaya> this is the command I am using for configuring
[06:33] <Dr_Willis> well that pretty much moves it out of my skill-area ;)
[06:34] <vijaya> Dr_Willis: do u have any idea about this??
[06:34] <arquebus> does no one have anything to say on how to install ubuntu on a eufi laptop?? I would think that would be the most common question here
[06:34] <flam_> hi, i'm using kde and when trying to set desktop wallpaper with feh (feh --<background option> <path to image>) nothing happens, what could be the reason for this?
[06:35] <Dr_Willis> not really. I dont develop that much. and when i do compile stuff its normally ofthe good old    ./configure, make, make install    routine
[06:35] <Dr_Willis> I did compile weechat on my raspberry-pi last week.. took the little thing like 2 hrs.
[06:35] <keanne> arquebus: i have installed ubuntu in an uefi laptop without problems. just make sure to configure the bios to boot from grub
[06:36] <Dr_Willis> flam_:  could be changes to how kde does the wallpaper these days are so difernt from wht feh is expecting
[06:36] <vijaya> earlier I was doing normal compile for x86 architecture... now I need to compile for arm
[06:36] <SoItBegins2> I'm on a 2008(?) MacBook Pro [MacBookPro4,1] and I'm having problems where my keyboard and mouse both cut out intermittently but often.
[06:36] <aeon-ltd> arquebus: is secure boot on?
[06:36] <OY1R> arquebus, it's UEFI :)
[06:36] <arquebus> keanne, did you convert the hd to use MBT partitions or GPT?
[06:36] <keanne> arquebus: but i have not done dual booting with uefi so i just disable it, less hassle
[06:36] <keanne> arquebus: GPT
[06:36] <arquebus> aeon-ltd: no, I turned off secure boot
[06:37] <keanne> arquebus: strange that you've asked about gpt, with ubuntu its pretty straight forward. with centos i need to manually configure gpt
[06:37] <arquebus> keanne- Im not dual booting, I just need info on how I get grub to use GPT, it looks complicated, like I have to resize the partitions with fdisk
[06:38] <OY1R> arquebus, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI maybe something you can check out. (if you havent already done that=
[06:38] <OY1R> )
[06:38] <toothe> this guy on experts-exchange doesn't evne read what I write
[06:38] <toothe> he just keeps repeating himself.
[06:38] <keanne> arquebus: i dont remember having that process with ubuntu.
[06:39] <keanne> arquebus: oh, then its easier to just turn uefi off. can't you turn if off?
[06:40] <SoItBegins2> In XOrg.0.log, the (EE) lines for the trackpad/kb failure are as follows:
[06:41] <SoItBegins2> [  3406.848] (EE) synaptics: bcm5974: no synaptics event device found
[06:41] <SoItBegins2> [  3406.848] (EE) synaptics: bcm5974: Synaptics driver unable to detect protocol
[06:42] <SoItBegins2> And then the trackpad is redetected. But it's still a great pain, because the trackpad and keyboard are then offline for a span of up to a minute before the computer redetects it.
[06:42] <SoItBegins2> Anyone have ideas on this?
[06:43] <Dr_Willis> SoItBegins2:  has it done this in other disrtos also? from differnt live cds?
[06:44] <SoItBegins2> I don't know about other distros, but it does not do it on Mac OS X 10.6. It did do it in the version of Ubuntu 11 I upgraded from.
[06:45] <Dr_Willis> id test it with a newer live cd if you can . if a 12.04 live  cd has the same issues. that would point to a 12.04 kernel issue/bug.
[06:45] <Dr_Willis> if it works however. that would point to some odd quirk with the upgrade process
[06:45] <helmut_> hi
[06:45] <SoItBegins2> I'm running 12.04 now. The bug happens in both 11 and 12.04
[06:46] <SoItBegins2> Or did you mean specifically run from a liveCD?
[06:50] <Dr_Willis> yes from a live cd.
[06:51] <SoItBegins2> Ah, OK. Thanks.
[06:51] <Dr_Willis> that would narrow it down to a 'upgrade issue' or not
[06:51] <Dr_Willis> id even test with a 13.0x or 13.10 live cd
[06:52] <mihir_> what tool is used by ubuntu to do the software update, does it use wget to download the files in background?
[06:52] <Dr_Willis> if all those have the same issue. Id then try a radically differnt  disrto like Fedora or arch
[06:52] <Dr_Willis> mihir_:  i think it uses curl.   do a 'ps ax' and see whts running as it downloads somthing
[06:53] <mihir_> ok
[06:53] <Dr_Willis> when in doubt, explore the os. ;)
[06:54] <aeon-ltd> SoItBegins2: long shot... is there such thing as a kb/m sleep function?
[06:55] <aeon-ltd> i'm just guessing since some mbp have kb backlights
[06:56] <SoItBegins2> Well, I have got one of the ones with the backlit keyboard.
[06:56] <SoItBegins2> Dunno what it is you're describing, though-- when the KB and trackpad go out, external keyboards and mice still work perfectly.
[06:57] <SoItBegins2> Be right back.
[06:57] <Dr_Willis> the lights go off also?
[06:57] <SoItBegins2> Oh. No, they don't.
[06:58] <SoItBegins2> (going to restart)
[06:58] <aeon-ltd> SoItBegins2: http://jasonrobb.com/v2/2008/11/24/macbook-pro-unresponsive-keyboard-trackpad-solution/
[06:58] <aeon-ltd> mbp also 2008
[06:59] <aeon-ltd> if you're trying this don't short anything/tase yourself :)
[06:59] <Dr_Willis> 10000000 volts of raw powar! ;)
[06:59] <SoItBegins2> Ah, the famous ribbon cable problem. I actually had that happen to me, but fixed it; this intermittency problem does not occur in Mac OS X, possibly as a testament to that.
[07:00] <Dr_Willis> or it is just revovering faster
[07:00] <Dr_Willis> recovering
[07:00] <SoItBegins2> Well, the ribbon cable problem doesn't recover until you 'unplug' and 'replug' it, which is what the cable is.
[07:01] <Dr_Willis> i mean the os sees and reloads/resets the hardware driver or whatever faster when it sees it disconnect/reconnect
[07:01] <SoItBegins2> If I'm reading the log right, I think this is a software problem where the trackpad driver zones out and then catches itself.
[07:02] <SoItBegins2> (brb restart)
[07:03] <Hundred> hello, i'm seeking a conservative/libertarian girlfriend :)
[07:04] <Zhaofeng_Li> Hundred, this channel is for Ubuntu issues only. For some chit-chat, try #defocus.
[07:05] <Dr_Willis> Hundred:  try #ubuntu-offtopic or #foreveralone
[07:05] <arquebus> I just ran rfkill list on my laptop and discovered that my wireless LAN is hardblocked. I looked in the manual and it doesnt say anything about a wifi switch. what should I do?
[07:06] <SoItBegins> OK, back again.
[07:06] <Dr_Willis> arquebus:  ive seen where people boot to windows. make sure the wifi is on. then reboot back to linux . (there are the fn-FX keys to toggle wifi also)
[07:06] <arquebus> Dr_Willis: thanks, but Im not dual booting
[07:28] <atossava> morning :) OK, I failed massively... The system reported problems with libpango1.0 while building a new initrd (this is on 13.04)
[07:28] <atossava> so I removed libpango1.0.
[07:28] <atossava> :D
[07:28] <atossava> practically everything related to any form of GUI is now gone
[07:29] <gordonjcp> heh
[07:29] <gordonjcp> that's pretty fail, right enough
[07:29] <gordonjcp> try installing ubuntu-desktop
[07:29] <gordonjcp> it's a metapackage that ought to pull in all the deps
[07:29] <atossava> what I'm trying is to have a non-Unity non-Compiz desktop...
[07:29] <gordonjcp> and try not installing stuff when you don't quite understand what it is
[07:30] <gordonjcp> atossava: xubuntu-desktop, lubuntu-desktop
[07:30] <atossava> gordonjcp: that is generally good advice :)
[07:30] <atossava> Composite and nVidia hardware overlay don't play together, and I need the HW overlay for something
[07:30] <gordonjcp> ubuntu-desktop will pull in Unity, which is the standard desktop environment
[07:30] <atossava> yupyup
[07:30] <atossava> disabling Composite in xorg.conf makes Unity very unhappy :)
[07:31] <Dr_Willis> composite can normally be turned on and off on the fly i thought from most desktops
[07:31] <SoItBegins2> This is interesting. When the keyboard fails, the backlight doesn't go out...
[07:31] <SoItBegins2> but the little caps lock light DOES.
[07:32] <atossava> dr_willis: compiz doesn't survive without Composite
[07:32] <earthling_> looks like the ubuntu-beginners channel got shut down
[07:32] <Dr_Willis> theres other compositing window managers out there  that can turn it on/off on the fly.
[07:32] <atossava> dr_willis: perhaps so, but this is the default, and it's been OK for me until now
[07:32] <Dr_Willis> atossava:  so what desktop/window manger do you want?   ;)
[07:33] <atossava> dr_willis: I'm comfortable with anything.  I guess I should go back to twm
[07:33] <atossava> mwm... 4Dwm
[07:33] <Dr_Willis> atossava:  theres dozens in the repos. ;) lightest would be jwm i belive. but its verybaic
[07:33] <Dr_Willis> basic
[07:33] <Dr_Willis> then again - its like a huge 300k ;)
[07:33] <Dr_Willis> !info jwm
[07:33] <atossava> thanks
[07:33] <Dr_Willis> 290k! ;)
[07:34] <Dr_Willis> it all depends on what you need the sysem to do
[07:34] <atossava> light is not an issue, but surviving without Composite (which is a requirement for nVidia Option "Overlay" to work) is
[07:34] <Dr_Willis> what sort of overlay do you mean? i cant recall ever needing to mess with it befor
[07:35] <Dr_Willis> kde can definatly turn compositing on and off on the fly.
[07:36] <atossava> Dr_Willis: I have an application on Solaris that needs a 8bit pseudocolor overlay.  In the regular case, trying to start it up results in a coredump on the Sun.  The only X terminal with which it works effortlessly is another Sun, or a SGI.  It might have worked with the AcceleratedX server from Xi Graphics.
[07:37] <atossava> I do have ten SGIs... in the basement, and some of them might even be in working condition.
[07:37] <Dr_Willis> im so old.. i actually rember sun workstations and the Xi X server. ;)
[07:37] <SoItBegins2> And oddly enough, with the caps lock light (but not caps lock) on, the keyboard and mouse seem to be working perfectly.
[07:38] <atossava> Dr_Willis: Well, needing to run a Solaris app pretty much dates me, doesn't it. :)
[07:38]  * Dr_Willis used to irc on greenbar printing tty-terminals
[07:38]  * gordonjcp used to IRC over 9600bps radio modems
[07:39] <gordonjcp> but then again, I did that yesterday...
[07:39] <atossava> Mh-mh. I used to connect to BBSes with 300 bps modems back in 1984. :D
[07:39] <atossava> I've got the overlays enabled and Composite is not in the way. It does not work.
[07:39] <Dr_Willis> radio? Luxery! ;)
[07:39] <atossava> So I've been wasting my time, but I needed to know that. :)
[07:39] <gordonjcp> if I still had a landline phone I'd fire up my old BBS
[07:39] <Dr_Willis> back to the drawing board then eh.
[07:40] <Dr_Willis> multiplexed serial terminal   (using dnet on my amiga) at 9600 baud in college/ :)  i was so leet back then.
[07:40] <atossava> Back to the SGI stash in order to get a real X terminal going. :)
[07:42] <atossava> re-enable Composite, disable Overlay, install ubuntu-desktop, get things back to whatever counts as normal... :D
[07:43] <Dr_Willis> ill just go play with my raspberry-pi
[07:45] <kenn_> hello people
[07:47] <kenn_> chromium asks keyring password at starting chromium, how can i disable it?
[07:47] <kenn_> i use ubuntu 13.04
[07:49] <ArielX__> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6191217/
[07:50] <rubic> I'm trying to launch xmag via a key binding in i3 but it screws up somehow and doesnt take any mouse input, it works find when I launch it manually. How can I fix this?
[07:50] <wilee-nilee> kenn_, How did you install it?
[07:51] <Dr_Willis> if you set a blank keyring password - it shouldent ever ask for it
[07:54] <wilee-nilee> !ppa } ArielX__
[07:54] <ArielX__> yes
[07:54] <wilee-nilee>  !ppa | ArielX__
[07:55] <ArielX__> how do I remove the ppa since its 404
[07:55] <wilee-nilee> !ppapurge
[08:03] <jack---> help - im using an usb stick to connect - connecting works but i get disconnected like after 20 seconds unless i immediately start a huge download
[08:06] <jack---> for now, "apt-get install nexuiz" does the job
[08:10] <Dr_Willis> ping some server like 'ping 8.8.8.8' in a terminal and see f that works
[08:10] <Dr_Willis> theres some known issues with wifi cards and powersaveing modes disconnecting  if the connection is not used after some time
[08:11] <jack---> Dr_Willis, that works but doesnt keep my connction up
[08:11] <jack---> disconnects anyway
[08:12] <Dr_Willis> thats weird
[08:12] <jack---> yup :/
[08:12] <Guest21795> any known problems with qtcreator <-> gdb after last 13.10 updates?
[08:12] <Dr_Willis> so it pings for about 20 sec. then pings start failing
[08:12] <jack---> like that, yeah
[08:13] <Dr_Willis> id cget the exact chipset that dongle is using. and check the forums and askubuntu.com there might be some known work arounds
[08:14] <jack---> ok, will try that
[08:18] <crankharder> anyone know where errors from upstart init scripts end up?
[08:20] <Dr_Willis> in /var/log somewehere i imagine
[08:20] <Dr_Willis> you can tail -f /lots/of files and watch them all ;)
[08:20] <Dr_Willis> i recall other log watchers also. some with color. but havent used them in ages
[08:21] <crankharder> var/log/upstart ;)
[08:22] <Dr_Willis> how logical ;)
[08:22] <Dr_Willis> in windiwz it would be some weird place i bet ;)
[08:23] <viaSanctus_> I'm at a client and I have a problem ubuntu box
[08:23] <viaSanctus_> nothing I do frees up any space on the hard drive
[08:23] <viaSanctus_> typically linux
[08:23] <cfhowlett> viaSanctus_, error messages?
[08:23] <Dr_Willis> check the log files  in /var/log and the users home.
[08:23] <viaSanctus_> none
[08:23] <viaSanctus_> I have 0 bytes free
[08:23] <Dr_Willis> ive seen log files grow for weird reasons to huge size due to error messages
[08:24] <viaSanctus_> and need to free just a meg or so
[08:24] <crankharder> it really hates a call to /usr/bin/test :(  just seems to stop the script dead
[08:24] <Dr_Willis> and they grow as fast as you free space
[08:24] <viaSanctus_> can I delete the src / header files?
[08:24] <Dr_Willis> sudo apt-get clean   - would clear out the apt cache - that can be several gb in size on some setups viaSanctus_
[08:25] <viaSanctus_> done that several times
[08:25] <viaSanctus_> have 2 hard drives
[08:25] <viaSanctus_> 1 with lots of space free
[08:25] <viaSanctus_> and 1 with none
[08:25] <FloodBot1> viaSanctus_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:25] <Dr_Willis> if the space is filling up as fast as you free it - thats exactly what ive seen with  log files
[08:25] <viaSanctus_> Dr_Willis, it's annoying the hell out of me
[08:25] <k1l> viaSanctus_: so a "sudo apt-get autoremove &&sudo apt-get autoclean"
[08:25] <Dr_Willis> the ~/.xsession-errors   file wa he issue for me
[08:26] <Dr_Willis> so look and see how big the file is
[08:26] <k1l> viaSanctus_: that should free some space on the / partition. but if you know that problem i wonder why you do the same mistake over and over again?
[08:26] <viaSanctus_> can't see hidden files
[08:26] <viaSanctus_> over and over again?
[08:27] <leo> has anyone here been to the heart attack girl?
[08:27] <Dr_Willis> ls -al  .thefilename
[08:27] <k1l> viaSanctus_: you just told its happening often to you
[08:27] <johest> moin guys,  /etc/ssl/certs/Firmaprofesional_Root_CA.pem expires in 20 days (12.04 LTS)
[08:27] <k1l> leo: keep it to ubuntu support in here, please
[08:27] <viaSanctus_> k1l, never said that
[08:27] <Dr_Willis> ls -al ~/.xsession-errors
[08:28] <ActionParsnip> johest: I suggest you report a bug
[08:29] <ActionParsnip> leo: do you mean 'grill'?
[08:29] <lagerpc> Does anyone here have a laptop with Iris Pro 5200? Wondering if it works as easy as the Intel Graphic HD range cards, where drivers are pretty much a non-issue.
[08:30] <Dr_Willis> ActionParsnip:  no.. its a girlfriend tht serves you bacon for every meal. ;)
[08:34] <ActionParsnip> k1l: did you sneeze and run a macro? :)
[08:35] <lagerpc> Are there even any good laptops with Iris Pro 5200 available atm?
[08:36] <ActionParsnip> lagerpc: ask in ##hardware
[08:44] <viaSanctus_> this is turning into a disaster
[08:44] <viaSanctus_> i've deleted the whole log content
[08:45] <viaSanctus_> nothing changes
[08:45] <viaSanctus_> 0 B free
[08:45] <viaSanctus_> when I move back the log content from a backup location
[08:45] <viaSanctus_> I can't siply copy the whole content back into the log folder. How is that even possible if 0B is free?????
[08:45] <viaSanctus_> I can copy*
[08:45] <Strit> Do you have Remote desktop activated?
[08:46] <viaSanctus_> no
[08:47] <Strit> viaSanctus_, My xsessions log quickly filled up my harddrive because someone tried to connect to my remote desktop all the time. After I disabled it, I had no problems. What does the log say?
[08:47] <Dr_Willis> did you check the log file in the users home? for the xorg stuff
[08:47] <viaSanctus_> Strit, it's not that
[08:48] <Dr_Willis> ls -al ~/.xsession-errors              would show its size
[08:48] <viaSanctus_> I cut/pasted the whole log content to a backup locations
[08:48] <viaSanctus_> so if the storage was filling up, it would be full
[08:48] <viaSanctus_> but i could paste the log content back
[08:48] <viaSanctus_> even though it said 0B free
[08:48] <k1l> viaSanctus_: is this system still running?
[08:48] <viaSanctus_> ?
[08:48] <viaSanctus_> i'm in it
[08:48] <Strit> how big is the .xsession-errors file?
[08:49] <k1l> viaSanctus_: then please pastebin a "df -h"
[08:49] <Dr_Willis> mine go to 17gb the other day
[08:49] <viaSanctus_> Strit, do you understand what I'm trying to say?
[08:49] <k1l> viaSanctus_: show the df-h please
[08:49] <happyjoy> how do i run a filesystem check on sdc?
[08:49] <k1l> "df -h"
[08:50] <viaSanctus_> one sec, rebooting the system
[08:50] <Strit> viaSanctus_, I think so, is the baclup location on the same disc?
[08:50] <viaSanctus_> of course not
[08:50] <Dr_Willis> !fsck | happyjoy
[08:50] <viaSanctus_> oh wait, another partition
[08:50] <viaSanctus_> same disk
[08:50] <happyjoy> that doesnt answer my question
[08:50] <happyjoy> *how*
[08:51] <Dr_Willis> happyjoy:  do that sudo touch.... command and reboot.
[08:51] <happyjoy> man page does not show an example of how a command is supposed to look
[08:51] <Dr_Willis> happyjoy:  or unmount the filesystem and 'fsck /dev/sda1'  or whatever
[08:52] <Dr_Willis> fsck [-lsAVRTMNP] [-C [fd]] [-t fstype] [filesys...]
[08:52] <happyjoy> i did unmount and ran sudo fsck /dev/sdc and got something about a bad block and bad superblock then the check was aborted
[08:52] <Dr_Willis> fsck                      -f ext4   /dev/sda1        (for example)
[08:52] <happyjoy> so i guess i did it right
[08:52] <Dr_Willis> no.. its not sdc
[08:52] <Dr_Willis> it would be sdc1  most likiely
[08:52] <Dr_Willis> sdc is the disk.. sdc1 is partion 1 on the disk
[08:52] <Dr_Willis>  
[08:53] <sf> hahahaha
[08:55] <viaSanctus_> Strit, 1129 large
[08:55] <viaSanctus_> it probably means bytes or kb
[08:55] <viaSanctus_> in any case it's not the problem
[08:56] <k1l> viaSanctus_: please show in a pastebin "df -h"
[08:56] <k1l> !paste | viaSanctus_
[08:56] <ddssc> what's the easiest way to grant user access over sftp and have that user locked to one specific dir?
[08:57] <Dr_Willis>  ddssc  that seems to get asked in here every day.. theres not a quick answer. I imagine theres posts about it at askubuntu.com - ive not seen a 'simple' answer ever given in here
[08:58] <viaSanctus_> it says /dev/sda1 size 15G used 15G avail 0 use 100% mounted on /
[08:58] <viaSanctus_> the rest is all on other partitions
[08:58] <ddssc> Dr_Willis: the reason it's asked is because apparently there's not a clean solution for it in ubuntu. all I want to do is create a dir, and grant access over it to a certain user. I don't want this user to be able to write outside or even look outside this dir.
[08:58] <viaSanctus_> with free space
[08:58] <ActionParsnip> viaSanctus_: uninstall unused kernels is a good start
[08:58] <k1l> viaSanctus_: *sigh*
[08:58] <ddssc> fairly simple request really, dont know why it has to be so complicated in ubuntu...
[08:58] <k1l> viaSanctus_: then do the apt-get commands i told you before
[08:58] <ActionParsnip> ddssc: its very simple
[08:58] <Dr_Willis> ddssc:  they souldent be able to write out side the dir without the right permissions. as for looking.. i dnt see what the big deal is
[08:59] <viaSanctus_> k1l, please paste it again
[08:59] <k1l> viaSanctus_: and remove old kernel-packages and older header packages
[08:59] <ddssc> Dr_Willis: looking at this atm. http://askubuntu.com/questions/134425/how-can-i-chroot-sftp-only-ssh-users-into-their-homes
[08:59] <viaSanctus_> there are only 2 header folders
[08:59] <viaSanctus_> guess they are not "old" ones
[08:59] <ddssc> ActionParsnip: then please do share.
 viaSanctus_: so a "sudo apt-get autoremove &&sudo apt-get autoclean"
[08:59] <ActionParsnip> ddssc: in what way?
[09:00] <ddssc> ActionParsnip: in way of words. written on my screen.
[09:00] <ActionParsnip> ddssc: I have OAPs and so forth using Ubuntu to browse the web, zero issues
[09:00] <ddssc> ActionParsnip: that doesn't tell me anything.
[09:00] <ActionParsnip> ddssc: what are you finding not simple, exactly?
[09:00] <k1l> viaSanctus_: please show a "dpkg -l | grep linux-header" in a _pastebin_
[09:02] <ActionParsnip> k1l: dpkg -l | grep linux-header | pastebinit     ;) assuming it's installed
[09:03] <viaSanctus_> http://pastebin.com/BMx76Gdi
[09:03] <ddssc> ActionParsnip: locking user to sftp access only , on his home dir only.
[09:03] <viaSanctus_> man I hate linux
[09:04] <ddssc> viaSanctus_: welcome to the club :)
[09:04] <k1l> viaSanctus_: is this a lucid?
[09:04] <Dr_Willis> demand a refund
[09:04] <viaSanctus_> lucid?
[09:04] <ActionParsnip> ddssc: http://askubuntu.com/questions/134425/how-can-i-chroot-sftp-only-ssh-users-into-their-homes
[09:04] <k1l> viaSanctus_: stop that ranting, please
[09:04] <viaSanctus_> Dr_Willis, I wish I could pay and have it working
[09:04] <ddssc> ActionParsnip: reading this as we speak
[09:04] <k1l> viaSanctus_: what does "lsb_release -a" give you? (please put into a pastebin)
[09:04] <ActionParsnip> ddssc: funny how I found that in about....what....5 seconds?
[09:05] <ddssc> ActionParsnip: i found that before I even came to this channel
[09:05] <viaSanctus_> no lsb modules are available
[09:05] <viaSanctus_> ubuntu 8.04
[09:05] <ActionParsnip> viaSanctus_: Hardy is very dead
[09:05] <ddssc> ActionParsnip: and read the comment about it not working to lock user out of browsing the entire file system. as is usually the case.
[09:05] <ActionParsnip> ddssc: http://shapeshed.com/chroot_sftp_users_on_ubuntu_intrepid/
[09:05] <viaSanctus_> it's a printer controller
[09:05] <Dr_Willis> wow a 5 yr old install.
[09:05] <k1l> viaSanctus_: this is out of support anyway
[09:06] <viaSanctus_> I just need to add a cutter device and therefor I need free space just to modify the config file
[09:06] <ActionParsnip> cian1500ww: your release is not supported in any way you can name
[09:06] <viaSanctus_> k1l, it's possible to free space in windows 3.01 even today
[09:06] <ActionParsnip> viaSanctus_: ^
[09:06] <k1l> viaSanctus_: stop that ranting! last warning
[09:06] <ActionParsnip> cian1500ww: tab fail, sorry
[09:06] <viaSanctus_> oh buy we got a hero
[09:06] <viaSanctus_> go ban me..very brave
[09:06] <Dr_Willis> viaSanctus_:  and did you look at the size of the users ~/.xsession-errors file?    i never saw youmention it..
[09:07] <viaSanctus_> Dr_Willis, yes
[09:07] <viaSanctus_> 1180 large (guessing it's kb)
[09:07] <Dr_Willis> delete that file. and clean out all the logs. is about all i can suggest.
[09:07] <Dr_Willis> it could be GB
[09:07] <jack_mathew> yeah
[09:07] <viaSanctus_> Dr_Willis, did that
[09:07] <jack_mathew> How I can pen test this website
[09:07] <ActionParsnip> VaNNi: that's 1Mb. I recommend a clean install of Precise. It is LTS and supported til April 2017
[09:07] <jack_mathew> http://thereligionofpeace.com/
[09:07] <k1l> viaSanctus_: you come in here playing the" i know everything" guy. just blaming linux/ubuntu for everything. and then running a ubunut which is out of support since ages
[09:07] <viaSanctus_> k1l, can we please keep it to this problem instead of my behavior
[09:07] <k1l> good luck with that
[09:08] <viaSanctus_> I'm frustrated, hence my words
[09:08] <viaSanctus_> it's human..happens to every guy, you 2
[09:08] <ActionParsnip> viaSanctus_: its the same as calling Microsoft for Windows 98 support
[09:08] <ActionParsnip> viaSanctus_: they wont help you, its dead and gone. So is Hardy
[09:08] <sharpy35> hey guys. under ubuntu, what is the best way to format a windows drive
[09:08] <viaSanctus_> ffs..i ended up in an irc "there's a guy wrong on the net" situation
[09:08] <Dr_Willis> sharpy35:  mkfs.nfts
[09:08] <michael87> I did something stupid. I burnt a video file for a friend for his xbox 360 on windows 7 yesterday. today I burnt another video but on brasero burner on my ubuntu laptop and now the other video won't show on here. yet when I switch back to 7 it reads the OTHER video I burnt. is there a way for both of them to be read on a single system?
[09:08] <Dr_Willis> sharpy35:  or use gparted
[09:08] <viaSanctus_> i've never called ms in my life
[09:09] <viaSanctus_> i just need a meg free space
[09:09] <viaSanctus_> how hard can it be?
[09:09] <ActionParsnip> viaSanctus_: just explaining the support to you, noboy said anything a "wrong guy"
[09:09] <ActionParsnip> viaSanctus_: if its not hard, you do it
[09:09] <sharpy35> okay thanks . i will try it with gparted
[09:09] <Dr_Willis> viaSanctus_:  if somthing is growing as fast as you free space.. then you may want to use a live cd and exp,ore the fs and free up space
[09:09] <michael87> burnt both on a single dvd btw
[09:09] <Dr_Willis> michael87:  you mean a multi-session dvd?
[09:10] <ActionParsnip> viaSanctus_: you'll probably find a new install cures your issue
[09:10] <Dr_Willis> Im not sure if ubuntu can access files on a 2nd session.
[09:10] <Dr_Willis> not even sure how windows accesses them
[09:10] <michael87> Dr_Willis, yeah I guess I did that.
[09:10] <Dr_Willis> im not even sure how to Make a multi-session dvd. :)
[09:10] <viaSanctus_> ActionParsnip, I'm in a production env with a whole team waiting for this to work
[09:11] <sharpy35> if i format it to ntfs with gparted, then all files and so on will be deleted right_
[09:11] <viaSanctus_> can't tell them, we need a new install
[09:11] <viaSanctus_> I need a meg free space
[09:11] <viaSanctus_> thats it
[09:11] <Dudytz> hi all! I have a problem with locale and perl: "perl: warning: Setting locale failed." can anyone help me?
[09:11] <ActionParsnip> viaSanctus_: your release isnt supported by the community
[09:11] <Dr_Willis> do a scan for big files.. as you are monitoring disk space in a 2nd shell window.  delte somting.. see if the space frees up .. then fills back up
[09:11] <michael87> dr_willis. damn :(
[09:12] <Dr_Willis> if somthing is filling up space as fast as you free it.. you need to determine what
[09:13] <Dudytz> I have the language set to en_US.UTF-8 and time, currency, ecc to it_IT ... but all perl programs outputs warning of locale settings ... please, see: http://pastebin.com/bAc6LBs3
[09:13] <Guest21795> any known problems with qtcreator <-> gdb after last 13.10 updates?
[09:13] <Dudytz> I do the locale-gen and dpkg-reconfigure locales ... without success
[09:13] <ActionParsnip> Dudytz: have you asked in #perl too?
[09:14] <Dr_Willis> if its just a warning. it shouldent hurt anything ;)
[09:14] <Dr_Willis> i seem to recal seeing that error in the past ages ago
[09:14] <Dudytz> no .. ok, I ask #perl
[09:14] <Dudytz> thanks
[09:14] <NET||abuse> I need to inspect traffic using burp, but not polute my phone with more certificates. it wants a pkcs12 passworded key, i created one from the pem mitmproxy is using and my phone is already set to accept. but it didn't work :(
[09:14] <k1l> !saucy | Guest21795
[09:15] <NET||abuse> has anyone used these tools and knows how to succesfully convert the certs over for burpsuit?
[09:15] <michael87> perhaps someone else can figure this out
[09:15] <michael87> I did something stupid. I burnt a video file for a friend for his xbox 360 on windows 7 yesterday. today I burnt another video but on brasero burner on my ubuntu laptop and now the other video won't show on here. yet when I switch back to 7 it reads the OTHER video I burnt. is there a way for both of them to be read on a single system?
[09:15] <Guest21795> thx
[09:15] <Dr_Willis> michael87:  i doubt if its going to be possible on the 360
[09:15] <Dr_Willis> michael87:  it
[09:16] <Dr_Willis> its easier to just set up a dlna/upnp server ;)
[09:16] <Dr_Willis> disks are so ... 1990
[09:16] <ActionParsnip> Dr_Willis: true true
[09:16] <ActionParsnip> Dr_Willis: sftp over wan :)
[09:17] <Dr_Willis> been using Plex Server and Plex-pi lately here
[09:17] <ActionParsnip> Dr_Willis: yeah plex is pretty swee
[09:17] <ActionParsnip> Dr_Willis: plus plex can run on android too
[09:18] <Dr_Willis> plex was on sale a week or so ago ;)
[09:18] <Dr_Willis> got it then. I dont subscribe to that myplex however.
[09:35] <lolcat> Hello
[09:35] <lolcat> My X-server stopped working
[09:35] <lolcat> How can I reconfigure it?
[09:35] <lolcat> It goes into low-graphics, but no input works
[09:35] <lolcat> has to be commandline
[09:36] <lolcat> !xorg
[09:37] <lolcat> !xorgconfg
[09:37] <lolcat> !xorgconf
[09:38] <lolcat> Anyone?
[09:38] <linuxuz3r> try dpkg-reconfigure xorg
[09:38] <Dr_Willis> common issue.. cant say ive4 seen a common/simple fix.
[09:40] <k1l> lolcat: what did you do before that happend? which driver is installed? where is the driver from?
[09:41] <lolcat> I think I may have upgraded
[09:41] <lolcat> I think I am using the AMD one
[09:42] <lolcat> I probably need it to make me an inframs thingy?
[09:42] <k1l> if its not the ubuntu driver but driver from some homepage you might need to reinstall it after a kernel upgrade
[09:42] <lolcat> I can't enter homepages without X
[09:42] <lolcat> How do I make it just use whatever is default?
[09:43] <lolcat> Or would rebooint into .23 work?
[09:43] <lucido> startup applications, the commands set there are executed as what user?
[09:43] <Dr_Willis> depenmds on which ones you mean
[09:43] <Heebie> Does anyone know of a xen-kernel package for Ubuntu that adds paravirtualisation under Xen?
[09:43] <k1l> lolcat: yes, you could try the odler kernel entry in grub for testing
[09:43] <Dr_Willis> ~/.config/autostart/ - ran as the user.
[09:43] <lolcat> I just need ANY graphical interface
[09:44] <Dr_Willis> lolcat:  sudo apt-get install jwm      then select jwm at the login screen perhaps?
[09:44] <lolcat> I don't need 3d or 2d acceleration
[09:44] <Dr_Willis> thats the most minimal window manager in the repos
[09:44] <lolcat> Dr_Willis: I cant get to the login screen
[09:44] <lolcat> It pops up: GRAPHICS PROBLEM DETECTED
[09:44] <lolcat> And then it won't let me click or press anything
[09:44] <k1l> lolcat: you could show the dmesg and syslog in a pastebin
[09:44] <Dr_Willis> and the xorg log
[09:44] <lolcat> k1l: I just want to revert to the standard driver
[09:45] <k1l> lolcat: so you did something with drivers?
[09:45] <lolcat> No
[09:45] <lolcat> I upgraded my kernel
[09:45] <k1l> upgraded manually?
[09:46] <k1l> lolcat: do "pastebinit /var/log/dmesg" and pastebinit /var/log/syslog" and show them both urls in here
[09:48] <lolcat> k1l: It is a PITA to pastebin without X
[09:48] <lucido> Dr_Willis, startup application preferences  the command is: /bin/sh sudo /usr/bin/nvclock -n 630 -m 610 -f, I need to know because I have to set up a nopassword option in the sudoers file
[09:48] <lolcat> Is there any display enviroment I can start without lightdm ruinging everything?
[09:48] <k1l> lolcat: use a tty then and just type the shortened url into here
[09:49] <lolcat> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6191565
[09:49] <lolcat> But all I need to do is to revert to the NORMAL STANDARD OPEN driver
[09:49] <lolcat> Or even switch to the intel thing
[09:51] <malinus> am I supposed to enable firewall on ubuntu with ufw or leav it off, like it is by default? It kinda worries me that the firewall is off by default?
[09:52] <cfhowlett> malinus, turn it on if you want.
[09:53] <lolcat> k1l: I just need the name of the packages I need to remove
[09:53] <lolcat> fglrx
[09:53] <lolcat> remove it
[09:53] <lolcat> reinstall
[09:54] <lolcat> aticonfig
[09:54] <lolcat> done?
[09:54] <FloodBot1> lolcat: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:54] <k1l> lolcat: you got a amd video card? then its fglrx, yes
[09:54] <k1l> make sure kernel-headers are installed for the kernel to led the module be build for you
[09:59] <lolcat> k1l: I removed fglrx with apt and is now reinstalling, will that work?
[09:59] <k1l> watch out for errors
[10:01] <eeos> hi everybody! Incredible problem here: after the last apt-get update, apt-get dist-upgrade, every time I press the THIRD button of the mouse (right button) uit sends the laptop into SUSPEND mode!!!!
[10:01] <eeos> What the heck?
[10:02] <lolcat> There
[10:04] <Dai_1987> eeos: all I can say is... lol
[10:05] <eeos> Me to .... solved by removing the key binding .... for some strange reason it had set the key bdinding so that every time I pressed that button it went into suspend. :D
[10:05] <eeos> so problem solved!
[10:10] <nil_mane> hi
[10:10] <cfhowlett> nil_mane, greetings
[10:11] <hexacode> hey anyone know of proxy as a service out there? like a community of proxies that can be used and shuffled as a service
[10:11] <Reacto> Can't get my usb --> ethernet adapter working, was plug and play in fedora :(
[10:14] <k1l> hexacode: thats more a topic for the offtopic channel: #ubuntu-offtopic
[10:14] <k1l> Reacto: please show the "lsusb" line and show the dmesg output after putting it in in a pastebin please
[10:17] <ActionParsnip> Reacto: what kernel module does it use in Fedora?
[10:17] <Reacto> http://pastie.org/8377089
[10:18] <Reacto> http://pastie.org/8377090
[10:18] <Reacto> I'm not sure, I don't have fedora installed anymore
[10:18] <Reacto> gonna try installing asix drivers
[10:18] <ActionParsnip> Reacto: boot to the live desktop and connect it, then run:   sudo lshw -C network    once you see the module, you can make steps to get it into Ubuntu
[10:20] <lenz> Hey there! I am having a problem with Empathy and it's facebook integration. Whome do I ask?
[10:22] <k1l> Reacto: take a look into this: https://launchpad.net/ax88179
[10:22] <k1l> (it states, that its running with kernel 3.11 in 13.10 ootb)
[10:24] <a> quit
[10:24] <a> exit
[10:24] <Reacto> now it works :D
[10:24] <Reacto> just installed asix
[10:25] <lenz> Hey there! I am having a problem with Empathy and it's facebook integration. Whome do I ask?
[10:25] <Reacto> another question though, what's the su equivalent in ubuntu?
[10:25] <Reacto> in fedora su let me change to root
[10:25] <Reacto> so I didnt have to write sudo infront of multiple commands
[10:26] <lenz> Reacto "sudo -i"
[10:26] <cfhowlett> !root|Reacto,
[10:26] <Reacto> in ubuntu I just get failed authentication
[10:26] <Reacto> kk thanks
[10:26] <Reacto> thought it was sudo -i, just didnt know if it was the same
[10:26] <biojl> Hi, I have some trouble with the sound in ubuntu 12.04. I've tried all solutions I found in forums but nothing worked
[10:26] <k1l> Reacto: there is no activated root account. so the ubuntu way is to use sudo instead
[10:27] <biojl> my hint is that it may be some trouble with the graph card
[10:27] <biojl> since I have 2 in devices
[10:27] <biojl> anyone could help me_
[10:28] <biojl> jl@Camazotz:~$ head -n 1 /proc/asound/card*/codec* ==> /proc/asound/card0/codec#0 <== Codec: Nvidia GPU 41 HDMI/DP  ==> /proc/asound/card1/codec#1 <== Codec: Creative CA0132
[10:31] <biojl> hello?
[10:31] <cfhowlett> biojl, if no one knows, no one speaks.
[10:31] <rishi_> hi
[10:32] <cfhowlett> rishi_, greetings
[10:32] <rishi_> i would like to go for paid support ubuntu server
[10:32] <biojl> ok...
[10:32] <rishi_> india
[10:32] <cfhowlett> !ubuntu-server|rishi_,
[10:32] <rishi_> where will i get paid support in india
[10:33] <rishi_> any third party ?
[10:33] <cfhowlett> rishi_, http://www.ubuntu.com/support
[10:34] <cfhowlett> rishi_, or this one ... http://www.canonical.com/enterprise-services/ubuntu-advantage/support
[10:34] <rishi_> is there any official hardening document 12.04
[10:34] <cfhowlett> !manual|rishi_,
[10:35] <cfhowlett> rishi_, "official"?  not that I know of
[10:36] <kostkon> rishi_, documentation is here nevertheless https://help.ubuntu.com/
 thanks for the link...
[10:37] <cfhowlett> rishi_, no problem.  best of luck
[10:40] <bulletxt|2> hi there, I'de like to use fusefat without being root or using sudo. Is this possible? Thanks
[10:40] <Dr_Willis> if the user is in the fuse group - i thought they could use the various fuse tools. thats sort of the point of the fuse stuff
[10:40] <Dr_Willis> !fuse
[10:41] <Dr_Willis> but im not sure what fusefat does that the normal fat/vfat stuff dosent do
[10:41] <bulletxt|2> Dr_Willis:  thanks but the problem is that I did put fuse in my user groups but still fusefat says permission denied
[10:41] <Dr_Willis> you did log out of the user. and reloged in?
[10:41] <bulletxt|2> Dr_Willis: I need to find a way to mount fat partitions as normal user,. any ideas?
[10:41] <bulletxt|2> yea
[10:41] <bulletxt|2> I did
[10:42] <Dr_Willis> err.. with the ntfs-confg tool it can enable where users have full access to ntfs/vfat partions. or you can put a mount entry in fstab with the 'user' (or was it users) option
[10:42] <Dr_Willis> for the specific filesystem
[10:42] <Ceraphin> Hi all
[10:42] <Ceraphin> Is there anyone with a Macbook air 4.2 (2011) with ubuntu in dual boot?
[10:42] <Ceraphin> I can succeed to install it, i really could use some help
[10:42] <bulletxt|2> Dr_Willis: since I don't know the partition (i only know it at runtime), I cant add it to fstab
[10:43] <Ceraphin> and I don't even find any good help.
[10:43] <Dr_Willis> bulletxt|2:  is it an internal or excternal drive? is it the same disk/partion every time? is it usb removeable?
[10:43] <tbharath> My home directory is out of memory, I want to add memory of another drive, which has windows in it, how can we do that?
[10:44] <bulletxt|2> Dr_Willis: its removable (its an SD)
[10:44] <Dr_Willis> tbharath:  you mean 'disk space'
[10:44] <Dr_Willis> bulletxt|2:  a usb sd reader? or built in?>
[10:44] <tbharath> Dr_Willis, yes, with out lost of contents
[10:44] <cfhowlett> !mac|Ceraphin,
[10:44] <bulletxt|2> Dr_Willis: usb reader yea
[10:44] <Ceraphin> Already done
[10:44] <Ceraphin> but the problem is that the installer is freezing after selecting language
[10:45] <asdfaaaa> I need help with AMD drivers 13.4 using Xubuntu 13.04, following this guide: http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Raring_Installation_Guide
[10:45] <Dr_Willis> tbharath:  you mount the partionm to some directory and give the user permissions/chown/chmod the filesystem and the user can store stuff there. no need to  'merge' the 2 - it will appear to the user as a directory in theor home if thats how you want
[10:45] <cfhowlett> Ceraphin, so since something like 90% plus of the users in this channel are NOT Mac users ...
[10:45] <asdfaaaa> I have gotten 2 blackscreen after reboots...
[10:45] <Dr_Willis> bulletxt|2:  you are using the gui at all? or need this to be all console?
[10:46] <tbharath> Dr_Willis, it is my another drive , /media/bharath/E8DC1A1EDC19E818/
[10:46] <tbharath> Dr_Willis, how I  can do that?
[10:46] <Dr_Willis> tbharath:  and what filesystem is the drive using>
[10:46] <bulletxt|2> Dr_Willis: console
[10:46] <Dr_Willis> bulletxt|2:  i cant even find a fuse-fat package - but i am on my raspberry pi.
[10:46] <bulletxt|2> Dr_Willis:  its fusefat
[10:47] <Dr_Willis> bulletxt|2:  but im thiniking you got somntning setup wrong. because a user is supposed to be able to  use the fuse stuff
[10:47] <tbharath> Dr_Willis, NTFS
[10:47] <bulletxt> Dr_Willis: its fusefat package
[10:47] <Dr_Willis> tbharath:  so you want to resize it?  or just want the user to have full access to it?
[10:48] <Dr_Willis> !info fusefat
[10:49] <tbharath> Dr_Willis, I want my files store in another drive, from which I can exceute those files, now when I copy the executable files to another drive, it says permission denied, though I gave chmod +x to that file
[10:50] <tbharath> Dr_Willis, can we solve the solution with out resizing?
[10:50] <Dr_Willis> tbharath:  you DONT chown/chmod ntfs/vfat -  if you need them to be executable on a vfat/ntfs then youy MUST mount the ntfs/vfat with the right options. Normally via a fstab entry in /etc/fstab
[10:51] <Dr_Willis> !ntfs-3g
[10:51] <Sheldoraaaa> HEY guys im looking for a distribution that run on my old eeepc
[10:51] <Dr_Willis> askubuntu.com has several questions/answers with that question tbharath
[10:51] <Dr_Willis> Sheldoraaaa:  xubuntu works well on my netbook
[10:51] <cfhowlett> Sheldoraaaa, lubuntu and xubuntu are both optimized for low spec/older devices
[10:51] <asdfaaaa> I need help with AMD drivers 13.4 using Xubuntu 13.04, following this guide: http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Raring_Installation_Guide
[10:51] <asdfaaaa> I have gotten 2 blackscreen after reboots...
[10:52] <ActionParsnip> asdfaaaa: which ati gpu do you have?
[10:52] <Dr_Willis> bulletxt:  i dont see in the fusefat docs/manpage where it works for a real disk.. just image files..
[10:52] <asdfaaaa> Actionparsnip: HD 7950 (supported)
[10:52] <tbharath> Dr_Willis, http://askubuntu.com/questions/49392/how-to-mark-allow-executing-file-as-program-on-an-external-drive
[10:52] <bulletxt> Dr_Willis: I tried as root and it works.. in read only mode
[10:52] <asdfaaaa> The installation went good but after reboot -> Black screen
[10:52] <asdfaaaa> and CTRL-ALT-F2 dosen't work...
[10:53] <tbharath> Dr_Willis, will the third bullet point works
[10:53] <Dr_Willis> bulletxt:  what command are you using exactly?
[10:53] <cfhowlett> asdfaaaa, now THAT makes me think you used corrupted ISO.  did you md5sum check?
[10:53] <asdfaaaa> cfhowlett: Don't except that, used wget from AMD site
[10:53] <asdfaaaa> here ->
[10:53] <tbharath> Dr_Willis, it said "possibly dangerous"
[10:53] <bulletxt> Dr_Willis: fusefat -ro /dev/disk/dev/disk/by-label/MYLABEL   /media/folder
[10:54] <asdfaaaa> http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/linux/Pages/radeon_linux.aspx
[10:54] <Dr_Willis> tbharath:  i dont put linux executables on ntfs/vfat - its just sort of silly to be storing linux binaries on vfat/ntfs
[10:54] <bulletxt> Dr_Willis:  thats because im doing with label but of course /dev/sda1 is the same thing
[10:54] <tbharath> Dr_Willis, I am doing because I am out of memory
[10:54] <asdfaaaa> DR_Willis: I'm on Xubuntu now :D
[10:54] <ActionParsnip> asdfaaaa: why not use the additional drivers app in system settings?
[10:54] <tbharath> Dr_Willis, but will it work?
[10:55] <ActionParsnip> asdfaaaa: I believe spatry has a video how to guide for the drivers
[10:55] <Dr_Willis> tbharath:  once again.. you are out of DISK SPACE...  if you were out of MEMORY then you would want a bigger swap partition
[10:55] <k1l> asdfaaaa: dont use the amd site driver. use the repo driver. that is supported in here
[10:55] <asdfaaaa> ActionParsnip: true but I wanted to learn from installation packages...
[10:55] <asdfaaaa> kll: Do you have a link, thanks
[10:55] <ActionParsnip> asdfaaaa: check out spatry's channel on youtube
[10:55] <Sheldoraaaa> Dr_willis I tried xubuntu but my sound card stopped for some reason, n I tried a few ways to fix it but still no working
[10:55] <asdfaaaa> ActionParsnip: Of couse thank you as well!
[10:56] <tbharath> Dr_Willis, sorry out of Disk space
[10:56] <k1l> asdfaaaa: sudo apt-get install fglrx
[10:56] <asdfaaaa> kll: They say third time is the shit...I Dont wanna format once again
[10:56] <asdfaaaa> :D:D:D
[10:56] <Sheldoraaaa> Dr_willis I assume its no supported
[10:56] <Dr_Willis> bulletxt:  does any of the other fuse tools work for that user
[10:56] <Dr_Willis> Sheldoraaaa:  did it work under ubuntu? did ut work for a while, then stop?
[10:56] <asdfaaaa> ActionParsnip: Checking now, love you <2
[10:57] <lenz> Hello everybody! How do I move my entire /home directory to a seperate partition?
[10:57] <bulletxt> Dr_Willis: fuseiso seems to work as normal user without issues
[10:57] <k1l> asdfaaaa: what?
[10:57] <cfhowlett> !home|lenz,
[10:57] <ActionParsnip> k1l: lotta love in the channel
[10:58] <Sheldoraaaa> Dr_willis yes it worked for old version of Ubuntu like 10,11 and nop no even working for a second
[10:58] <lenz> Oh wow, thanks
[10:58] <Dr_Willis> bulletxt:  you could always alter the sudoers file to allow that user to run fusefat as root. but from all the fuse docs ive seen  in the last 10 min, all fuse enabled users should be able to use the fuse stuff
[10:58] <bulletxt> Dr_Willis: yes in fact I cant understand why its not working ... :(
[10:58] <asdfaaaa> kll: I have formated (Xubuntu) two times because the AMD GPU drivers crashed after reboot, I hope that I do not need to format the third time..
[10:58] <Dr_Willis> bulletxt:  but ive not seen a single example of fusefat being used on a DEVICE. its always on a file..
[10:59] <Dr_Willis> bulletxt:  that may be the core issue here.
[10:59] <Dr_Willis> only root has full access to that device
[10:59] <bulletxt> Dr_Willis: yea I understand what you mean... any ideas?
[10:59] <Dr_Willis> bulletxt:  do you have a gui at all?
[10:59] <k1l> asdfaaaa: you should look out what error happend and not just plain reformat.
[10:59] <bulletxt> Dr_Willis: everythijng must be done from CLI
[11:00] <k1l> asdfaaaa: make sure the kernel headers are installed to let the video driver build properly
[11:00] <bulletxt> Dr_Willis: I'm writing bash scripts so everything must be done from consol
[11:00] <BluesKaj> howdy all
[11:00] <tbharath> Dr_Willis, I did sudo mount -o remount,fmask=027 /media/bharath/E8DC1A1EDC19E818/, but doen't work
[11:00] <cfhowlett> BluesKaj, hey hey hey!   Blue is here!  NOW it's a party!
[11:00] <Dr_Willis> bulletxt:  so you cant even run ntfs-config to enbable the  system to let users have full access to ntfs/vfat? that would be an eaier way
[11:01] <asdfaaaa> kll: Will try, will atleast follow the YT guide ActionParsnip sent
[11:01] <Dr_Willis> bulletxt:  a gui right NOW to just run that tool is what im asking about
[11:01] <Dr_Willis> not a gui later
[11:01] <bulletxt> Dr_Willis: partitions will always be Fat16/32..  is this a problem for ntfs-3g ?
[11:01] <Dr_Willis> ntfs-config handles them both
[11:01] <bulletxt> Dr_Willis: ok
[11:01] <Dr_Willis> it has check box's to allow users full access. and it tweaqks the udisks, or udev. or whatever it is now a days..
[11:02] <BluesKaj> cfhowlett, think I'll retreat to a corner with my morning coffee :)
[11:02] <bulletxt> Dr_Willis: ok Ill see if ntfs-config helps me
[11:02] <Dr_Willis> then i recall theres some tool other then mount  that will use that method to mount things
[11:02] <Dr_Willis> pdisk? i rarely need the tool
[11:02] <Dr_Willis> bulletxt:  you did check askubuntu.com about this? theres most likely several ways it could be done
[11:03] <bulletxt> Dr_Willis: I prefered your consulting :p anyways im going to try ntfs-config now and see how it can help me
[11:03] <Dr_Willis> my sdcard is always /dev/mmcblk* ;)   so that would make it eaasier to do here.
[11:03] <tbharath> Dr_Willis, pdsk?
[11:03] <bulletxt> Dr_Willis: in my case it always changes and I only know the label at runtime
[11:03] <Dr_Willis> bulletxt:  so that label is always the same?
[11:04] <bulletxt> Dr_Willis: no , it changes
[11:05] <bulletxt> Dr_Willis: I don't see how to tell ntfs-config to allow non root users to mount  fat partition though
[11:05] <Dr_Willis> theres a check box.
[11:05] <Dr_Willis> it applies to both
[11:06] <bulletxt> it says "allow to read/write to external devices"
[11:06] <bulletxt> it does not say anything else though
[11:06] <Dr_Willis> then you use the nautilus/cli/whatever tool that i cant rember to mount them
[11:06] <bulletxt> Dr_Willis: from cli whats the command then?  mount -L $label /$folder ?
[11:06] <Dr_Willis> its not mount.. its some OTHER command
[11:07] <Dr_Willis> might be at one of the following.
[11:07] <Dr_Willis> !ntfs
[11:08] <Dr_Willis> !ntfs-3g
[11:08] <bulletxt> ntfs-3g supports fat?
[11:08] <Dr_Willis> they use the same tools
[11:08] <Dr_Willis> ]sand options
[11:08] <CatKiller> bulletxt: ntfs-3g supports ntfs
[11:09] <bulletxt> my partitions will always be fat16/32 so I dont' see how ntfs-3g can help me
[11:09] <Dr_Willis> because the tools are all using the same subsystem.
[11:09] <Dr_Willis> ntfs/vfat are closely releated
[11:10] <CatKiller> Dr_Willis: Are you sure about that? how are they closely related?
[11:10] <tbharath> Dr_Willis, can you please help me , how can I make use of hard drive to run executables
[11:10] <tbharath> ?
[11:10] <CatKiller> Dr_Willis: ext2/3/4 are closely related, in fact ext2 can even mount ext3 and 4 partitions
[11:10] <Dr_Willis> tbharath:  askubuntu.com has sevarl questions/answers on mounting ntfs/vfat with executable bit set on EVERY file.
[11:11] <Nosophorus> how do i install totem.thumbnailer in Ubuntu 12.04?
[11:11] <CatKiller> bulletxt: So when you mount using ntfs-3g you use "FUSE", which is "File System in User Space". One advantage of mounting it in userspace is that you can mount it without being root
[11:11] <Nosophorus> i mistakenly deleted it
[11:11] <CatKiller> bulletxt: FAT32 uses a linux in kernel driver and a "mount" call
[11:11] <bulletxt> CatKiller: but I need to mount fat16/32
[11:12] <bulletxt> yea
[11:12] <Sheldoraaaa> !
[11:12] <bulletxt> CatKiller:  thats why I was looking at fusefat
[11:12] <CatKiller> So you want to mount something not as root right?
[11:12] <bulletxt> CatKiller: yes mount fat as non root
[11:12] <bulletxt> CatKiller:  I cant force anything in fstab as device will always be different (and even label)
[11:12] <Dr_Willis> !info pmount
[11:13] <Nosophorus> how do i install totem.thumbnailer in Ubuntu 12.04?
[11:13] <Dr_Willis> bingo
[11:13] <CatKiller> here you go
[11:13] <kostkon> !find thumbnailer
[11:13] <Dr_Willis> bulletxt:  check out pmount
[11:13] <bulletxt> should I go after pmount ? ok
[11:13] <bulletxt> let me see
[11:13] <Nosophorus> !find thumbnailer
[11:13] <Dr_Willis> ]http://stackoverflow.com/questions/483460/how-to-mount-from-command-line-like-the-nautilus-does
[11:14] <Dr_Willis> gvfs-mount also may be handy
[11:14] <Dr_Willis> then theres 'udisks'
[11:14] <Dubacco> i am looking for a text browser
[11:15] <Dr_Willis> Dubacco:  theres like 3 in the repos
[11:15] <CatKiller> Dubacco: lynx?
[11:15] <Dr_Willis> linkx, lynx, and w3m
[11:15] <Dr_Willis> links2 even ;)
[11:16] <jack---> Dr_Willis, don't forget emacs :P
[11:16] <bulletxt> Dr_Willis:  pmount -r  /dev/disk/by-label/P$label   /media/folder
[11:16] <Dr_Willis> i try hard to forget emacs
[11:16] <bulletxt> that worked!  how to unmount now...
[11:16] <jack---> heh
[11:16] <Dr_Willis> bulletxt:  ive never used the commands...
[11:16] <buleeen> i installed lubuntu for someone (an ex-windows user) who is unhappy with the fact i left him without a guide on how to use it. i need to email him something of the kind in pdf form. anything that already exists?
[11:16] <bulletxt> pumount
[11:17] <bulletxt> lol
[11:17] <Dr_Willis> bulletxt:  check the man pages perhaps? :) that url i posted mentioned sevarl tools.. some of those may be obsolete
[11:17] <Dr_Willis> bulletxt:  the lxde homepage perhaps?
[11:17] <cfhowlett> !manual|buleeen,
[11:17] <bulletxt> Dr_Willis: pumount to unmount
[11:17] <Dr_Willis> if he cant fitgure out  the basics of lxde.. well..  its so close to the classic windows setup its scary
[11:17] <cfhowlett> buleeen, not sure if there's a lubuntu equivalent ...
[11:17] <jack---> Dr_Willis: SEVERAL
[11:18] <buleeen> is there one for lubuntu?
[11:18] <Dr_Willis> we are luckyu to have an official ubuntu manual. ;)
[11:18] <Dr_Willis> its so .. well.. minimal in so many ways its scary
[11:19] <Dr_Willis> wanting docs on how to use LXDE is one thing.. one on how to use Linux and the shell and stuff.. is another toally differnt thing
[11:20] <bulletxt> Dr_Willis: ok I confirm pmount/ pumount are the solutions to my problem... thanks!
[11:20] <Dr_Willis> bulletxt:  that command mey be becoming obsolete. id check that guide i posted just in case
[11:21] <bulletxt> ok
[11:21] <Dr_Willis> bulletxt:  and if you had NOT used that ntfs-config tool to allow users full access. then pmount may or may not have worked..
[11:21] <tbharath> Dr_Willis, really I can't fine one, regarding that
[11:22] <tbharath> Dr_Willis, *find
[11:23] <tbharath> Dr_Willis, please help me, is it possible to resize?
[11:23] <Dr_Willis> tbharath:  yes. - use gparted
[11:23] <schwoop> When setting disk quotas I can but a value for blocks into the quota file. How many bytes is a block?
[11:23] <Dr_Willis> and theres several hits on askubuntu on ' ntfs file executable'
[11:24] <Dr_Willis> https://duckduckgo.com/?q=ubuntu%20ntfs%20file%20executable&t=raspberrypi
[11:25] <Nosophorus> how do i install totem.thumbnailer in Ubuntu 12.04?
[11:25] <Nosophorus> i mistakenly deleted it
[11:27] <kawkaw> hello, best dist for an asus eepc?
[11:27] <ezra-s> Nosophorus, "apt-cache search totem" find the appropiate package and install it
[11:28] <ezra-s> kawkaw, ubuntu of course
[11:28] <kawkaw> ofcourse but what version`?
[11:28] <ezra-s> any
[11:28] <ezra-s> it really depends on kernel
[11:28] <ezra-s> not distro version
[11:28] <buleeen> thanxx
[11:29] <ActionParsnip> kawkaw: there is no single best
[11:29] <kostkon> !find totem-video-thumbnailer
[11:29] <ActionParsnip> kawkaw: each distro has advantages and disadvantages
[11:29] <ezra-s> ActionParsnip, there is, here is ubuntu, in debian channel is debian, in arch channel is arch, and so on :P
[11:29] <ActionParsnip> ezra-s: I'd go for tinycore or puppy but Im a bit more versed in Linux than many
[11:30] <kostkon> Nosophorus, locate totem-video-thumbnailer
[11:30] <kawkaw> k
[11:30] <ActionParsnip> !find totem-video-thumbnailer
[11:30] <ezra-s> ActionParsnip, you have to be in their respective channels to promote those choices :P
[11:30] <kostkon> Nosophorus, http://askubuntu.com/a/115855/1651
[11:30] <Dr_Willis> kawkaw:  xubuntu or lubuntu should work fine on a netbook
[11:30] <ActionParsnip> ezra-s: its not always the 'best' choice though, just because you are in a channel should not sway choices
[11:31] <Dr_Willis> xubuntu works very well on my eee netbook.
[11:31] <ezra-s> ActionParsnip, I know, but it is the same as "which distro is best for..." question, so best reply is to look at the #channel you are in and reply
[11:32] <Dr_Willis> we all know Minix is best ;P
[11:32] <ActionParsnip> ezra-s: i tend to ignore channel, and advise on needs. There were no needs specified so there is no best
[11:32] <ActionParsnip> Dr_Willis: ha
[11:32] <home555> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6FsKFaSip1g
[11:32] <ActionParsnip> ezra-s: ask a silly question, an all that6
[11:32] <Nosophorus> kostkon: totem-video-thumbnailer is installed in my machine, it's in /usr/bin/
[11:33] <ezra-s> ActionParsnip, bahhhm you're too serious ;P
[11:33] <kostkon> Nosophorus, but you aren't getting any thumbnails?
[11:34] <Nosophorus> kostkon: yep, i'm not getting any thumbnails here
[11:34] <kostkon> Nosophorus, try clearing the thumbnail cache, http://askubuntu.com/a/2609/1651  logout even after that if you want
[11:36] <Nosophorus> kostkon: ffmpegthumbnailer creates thumbnails for video files, but i don't get any thumbnails for mp3 files
[11:37] <kostkon> Nosophorus, you mean cover art?
[11:38] <Nosophorus> kostkon: yes
[11:38] <Nosophorus> totem.thumbnailer was creating them
[11:38] <Nosophorus> but i mistakenly deleted it
[11:39] <kostkon> Nosophorus, then recreate it, i gave you the answer describing how to do it
[11:40] <kenn_> hi Ubunturs
[11:40] <kostkon> Nosophorus, "I then made a change in /usr/share/thumbnailers/totem.thumbnailer... etc"
[11:40] <kenn_> i can not set sleep time
[11:41] <Nosophorus> kostkon: i'll try that
[11:41] <kostkon> Nosophorus, create the file /usr/share/thumbnailers/totem.thumbnailer and put the three lines mentioned below
[11:41] <kenn_> it sleeps in 5 minutes whatever i set
[11:41] <kostkon> Nosophorus, e.g. sudo nano /usr/share/thumbnailers/totem.thumbnailer
[11:42] <Nosophorus> kostkon: yep, i'm doing that right now
[11:43] <kostkon> Nosophorus, also clear the cache if you haven't done it already and maybe logout and log back in
[11:44] <Nosophorus> kostkon: i'm affraid of doing that because i could lose some thumbnails i like and that were generated by totem.thumbnailer
[11:45] <kostkon> Nosophorus, ok then
[11:45] <tbharath> Dr_Willis, I got a command /dev/hda1  /mnt/windows  ntfs-3g  defaults,exec,fmask=000  0  0
[11:45] <Nosophorus> kostkon: thanks, dude!
[11:45] <tbharath> Dr_Willis, but when I tried mount /dev/sda4 I got
[11:45] <kostkon> Nosophorus, it worked?
[11:45] <Nosophorus> kostkon: it's working flawleslly!!
[11:45] <kostkon> Nosophorus, nice
[11:45] <tbharath> Dr_Willis, fuse: failed to access mountpoint /mnt/windows: No such file or directory
[11:46] <Nosophorus> kostkon: thank you very much! =]
[11:46] <kostkon> Nosophorus, :)
[11:48] <angs> I installed ubuntu via wubi on 20 GB space. Now, I need more space. how can I increase the memory space of ubuntu?
[11:48] <cfhowlett> angs, you do realize wubi is for tESTING not of long-term installation?
[11:49] <cfhowlett> angs, and 20 gigs should be more than adequate.  suggest you look into dual booting
[11:49] <Dr_Willis> tbharath:  the mount guides/wiki mention how the mountpoint MUST MUST exist befor you mount to it
[11:49] <Joeyjoeswe> Hi! I am completely new to ubuntu. Trying to install lighttpd at Ubuntu 9.10(I got an reason for using that old one), just getting msg like: "couldnt find  package lighttpd" Hope someone can give me a hint!
[11:49] <Dr_Willis> tbharath:  so make the directory
[11:49] <cfhowlett> JoeyJoeJo, end of life means no support here.  use a supported version and ask
[11:49] <Dr_Willis> tbharath:  and i doubt if hda1 is correct for your setup.  most likely its sda1
[11:49] <angs> cfhowlett, what can go wrong if I use wubi in the long term? I have been using wubi for 2 years already
[11:50] <tbharath> Dr_Willis, I changed to sda4
[11:50] <Dr_Willis> angs:  it can break on some trivial upgrade.. and basically its a dead project now
[11:50] <Dudytz> hi all! how the good way to mount two directories (eg. /var and /home) to the related directories in the same other partition? ... eg: sda1 is the root, /var and /home are directories mounted in the sda2 partition (sda2->/var and sda2->/home)
[11:51] <Dr_Willis> !eol | Joeyjoeswe
[11:51] <cfhowlett> angs, I'm not even going to go into the exhaustive list of what can go wrong.  the wubi developers have stated it's purpose is testing.  using it for something else , like long term installation , is inadvisable at best
[11:51] <tbharath> Dr_Willis, awesome, it works, thanks a lot
[11:53] <angs> chfhowlett, thanks for the info, I did not know it
[11:56] <cfhowlett> angs, no worries.  best of luck.
[11:56] <Dr_Willis> if you cant partion to use ubuntu. id say use virtualbox and put lubuntu in it :)
[11:56] <angs> thanks
[11:57] <vorlket> trying to automount ext hdd using 12.04 server, can you give me pointer to how to, thanks!
[11:58] <CatKiller> vorlket: fstab
[11:58] <Dr_Willis> !fstab | vorlket
[11:58] <Dr_Willis> Hmm,. did my script just print out a tinyurl? or was i the only one to see that?
[11:59] <CatKiller> Dr_Willis: nope
[11:59] <Dr_Willis> think it was just visibe to me. ;)(
[11:59] <vorlket> catKiler, Dr_Willis, ubottu: thanks!
[11:59] <Dr_Willis> weechat has severa tinyurl type scripts.. wasent sure if i was  spamming the channelo with them
[11:59] <CatKiller> :)
[12:01] <Dr_Willis> latest weechat has some kicking scripting features. ;P
[12:07] <Dr_Willis> Night all
[12:09] <jhutchins> About 60 seconds from power on to fully logged in with manual login on this old Dell GX280 with 1G RAM.
[12:22] <Hungary> Dr_Willis: Do you remember me? I was needing help with ethernet card drivers with installing ubuntu server yesterday
[12:23] <vusie> hi guys can ayone help me with a face recognition software for login...
[12:25] <vusie> anyone?
[12:26] <vusie> m in ubuntu 12.10
[12:26] <cfhowlett> vusie, if no one knows, no one speaks
[12:26] <vusie> cfhowlett: guess thats it
[12:27] <Hungary> Can someone help me to figure out why a driver error comes up when im installing ubuntu server 12.04
[12:28] <Hungary> Im getting a problem with the ethernet card driver during installation
[12:29] <aze_> hii
[12:30] <Sp88> hi
[12:30] <aze_> bigginer
[12:30] <aze_> ;)
[12:31] <rahull> How do I turn on wifi in ubuntu?
[12:31] <cfhowlett> !wifi
[12:31] <Hungary> !drivers
[12:31] <aze_> thnx
[12:35] <ccha> hello, there is a rsync process as defunct. I try to kill -9 this process, but it doesn't work
[12:35] <sdn3rd> whats the channel for saucy?
[12:35] <cfhowlett> !saucy|sdn3rd,
[12:35] <ccha> how can kill it ?
[12:36] <sdn3rd> thanks cfhowlett
[12:37] <sdn3rd> also, generic question, does anyone know of any centralized certificate management solution for linux?
[12:37] <sdn3rd> or any in development
[12:46] <kumbaya> My ubuntu machine is not feeling very well. I don't even know where to start explaining this. For an instance if I run apt-get -f install I get apt-get: error while loading shared libraries: libapt-pkg.so.4.12:cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory.
[12:46] <kumbaya> I get these errors ALOT
[12:46] <kumbaya> Also, could not find platform independent libraries prefix
[12:46] <kumbaya> What is the way forward here?
[12:46] <monicat> ciao
[12:46] <monicat> !list
[12:49] <jmgk> hi
[12:49] <jmgk> :)
[12:50] <nn0101> kumbaya: reinstall the package that provides libapt-pkg.so.4.12
[12:50] <nn0101> hello
[12:50] <nn0101> kumbaya: ldd $(which apg-get)
[12:51] <kumbaya> nn0101: I did not quite understand your last message there. Am not that familiar
[12:52] <kumbaya> oh nn0101 it says not found
[12:52] <kumbaya> on some files here.
[12:52] <kumbaya> libapt-pkg.so* and libstdc++.so.6
[12:52] <nn0101> kumbaya: go to packages.ubuntu.com and download libapt-pkg4.12
[12:53] <kumbaya> only terminal access to its wget?
[12:53] <kumbaya> jeez, how can I see my machine architecture?
[12:53] <kumbaya> amd64 or i386?
[12:53] <jhutchins> kumbaya: You might be able to patch it back together, but it will probably be easier just to re-install.  Do you know how it got this way?  Is your disc failing?
[12:53] <ezra-s> kumbaya, "uname -a" will tell you all
[12:53] <jhutchins> kumbaya: uname -a
[12:53] <kumbaya> This is a server which we for some reason are responsible for.
[12:55] <kumbaya> so it's a deb file?
[12:55] <kumbaya> I cant use wget
[12:55] <kumbaya> error while loading shared libraries libidn.so.11
[12:55] <nn0101> once you get the pkg, dpkg -i
[12:56] <kumbaya> What could be causing all these issues?
[12:56] <kumbaya> it seem to have happened like that, bang.
[13:01] <nn0101> it doesn't happen 'like that'.
[13:01] <kumbaya> lol
[13:01] <kumbaya> sudo: fatal error, unable to load plugins
[13:01] <kumbaya> it's a virtual server so virtual disk.
[13:01] <kumbaya> Can I check the filesystem integrity?
[13:03] <kumbaya> cannot access /usr/lib/sudo:
[13:03] <kumbaya> is this system screwed?
[13:03] <nn0101> just reimage your system. it will save you more time.
[13:04] <nn0101> backup your valuable belongings <- goes without saying.
[13:04] <nn0101> (whatever that might be :)
[13:05] <nn0101> anyone used one of these suckers? http://www.megabuy.com.au/hp-712317-371-proliant-gen8-g1610t-microserver-p20378826.html
[13:15] <nn0101> seems to be good value for the money
[13:15]  * nn0101 wanders off.....
[13:18] <juniour> how list column name of a table plz help??
[13:18] <juniour> in sqlite3
[13:19] <juniour> anybody here have idea of sqlite3???
[13:20] <Pici> juniour: That really doesn't have anything to do with Ubuntu support. Check sqlite's documentation.
[13:21] <nn0101> juniour: .header on
[13:22] <juniour> nn0101 what this do??
[13:24] <juniour> nn0101 thanks bro got it
[13:24] <juniour> :)
[13:24] <nn0101> juniour: it shows table column whilst using sqlite cli tool
[13:25] <juniour> nn0101 yea i tried ,i got thanks
[13:25] <nn0101> np
[13:29] <Abbas-> guys, for someone who's used to windows and slightly to ubuntu
[13:29] <Abbas-> is KDE more user firendly or gnome?
[13:29] <Abbas-> i m getting backtrack iso and i have to choose one of the two
[13:30] <ikonia> Abbas-: 1.) backtrack is dead 2.) this channel doesn't do polls 3.) this channel doesn't support backtrack
[13:30] <ikonia> Abbas-: I'd suggest a LOT more research before you do things
[13:30] <BluesKaj_> !backtrack > Abbas-
[13:30] <krux> 4.all you can do in backtrack you can do in ubuntu :)
[13:30] <ikonia> BluesKaj_: I actually think that factoid needs updating
[13:31] <BluesKaj_> ikonia, like the OS :)
[13:31] <ikonia> BluesKaj_: I will deal with the factoid now
[13:31] <juniour> krux yeaa
[13:32] <fishcooker> how to check that there is device on ttyx?
[13:32] <fishcooker> i've serial device here
[13:33] <Abbas-> ikonia ;p
[13:33] <Abbas-> ppl still suggest backtrack for wifi research
[13:33] <theadmin> Abbas-: That doesn't matter, this channel doesn't support it.
[13:33] <Abbas-> hmm im just wondering which one out of KDE / GNOME is more user frienldy
[13:33] <Abbas-> less shell like stuff
[13:33] <ikonia> Abbas-: then they are fools
[13:33] <Abbas-> harsh ;p
[13:33] <theadmin> Abbas-: Uh. Both are pretty friendly if you ask me
[13:34] <ikonia> not at all, suggesting a dead distro is stupid
[13:34] <theadmin> Abbas-: But GNOME is ridiculously bloated nowadays so eh
[13:34] <Abbas-> you  typed like 12 wrods ;p
[13:34] <Abbas-> instead of telling me which ones easeir but k
[13:34] <ikonia> Abbas-: it's personal opinion, that's why you can't see "this one is easier" as what I find easier you may find harder
[13:35] <theadmin> Abbas-: You can find screenshots and other stuff on http://kde.org and http://gnome.org , see for yourself.
[13:40] <jhutchins> Abbas-: kde has traditionally offered more user customization and features.  With KDE4 they've gotten very complex and interconnected, with multiple servers running full time for things like metadata indexing and contact sharing between apps.
[13:40] <Enouk> lot's of nerds here I quess :P
[13:40] <jhutchins> Abbas-: Gnome has recently moved toward removing customization and features in favor of user simplicity.
[13:40] <neoshroom> I've followed directions here to log SFTP for Chrooted Users.  It used to work and I got both "sshd" and "internal-sftp" entries in the log.  However, now I only seem to get "sshd" entries (which is only login/logoff but not transfers).  Any idea what could be going wrong?
[13:40] <neoshroom> Here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2081637
[13:41] <cson> I just installed Ubuntu 13.04 on a pretty modern laptop and compiz still sucks and is burning up a core.  Does anybody have this issue?
[13:41] <jhutchins> Abbas-: Many people have felt that the two main desktops were going way too far and becoming bloated.  They've turned to things like xfce, lxde, and forks of the big desktops like cinnamon.
[13:42] <Abbas-> ah
[13:42] <Abbas-> gud gud
[13:42] <Abbas-> i'll get it then
[13:42] <Abbas-> thx guys
[13:43] <Abbas-> ah
[13:45] <BluesKaj_> jhutchins, I tried cinnamon yesterday on different partition , but i was missing some important parts of the desktop like the panel . ii it's anything like gnome shell then I'd consider it as a fallback OS
[13:45] <theadmin> Welp... It's october, where's the traditional countdown on ubuntu.com? :D
[13:46] <tsongki> anyone please help. i had trouble connecting my external hard disk. Im using 13.04 here is the site http://paste.ubuntu.com/6192277/
[13:46] <theadmin> tsongki: Sounds like it's messed up
[13:47] <cson> tsongki: try fdisk?
[13:47] <cson> fisk /dev/sdb
[13:47] <Zyroo> Hi  i want to share interconnection to local area systems from a server machine how can i do that
[13:47] <cson> fdisk
[13:48] <tsongki> cson, i need the files inside my external hdd.
[13:48] <ikonia> !ics | cson
[13:49] <tsunamie> heys guys. I am using start-stop-daemon to start a java web application. However every time I try and enter java flags to the command the thing crashes out. IT does'nt start and says it can't start
[13:49] <cson> tsongki: does is mount on other OSes?
[13:49] <cson> it
[13:49] <Zyroo> How can i share without iptables is there any way to do that
[13:50] <theadmin> Zyroo: ...Read the article, it has a GUI method outlined
[13:50] <sheldoraaaa> yo
[13:50] <Zyroo> theadmin: I dont have a GUI access thats why i am here
[13:51] <cson> tsunamie: what's the complete command
[13:51] <theadmin> Zyroo: Oookay, well I'm not very familiar with CLI networking to be honest :/
[13:51] <cson> zyroo: what's wrong with iptables?
[13:51] <ikonia> Zyroo: iptables is the best/correct way to do it, or setup a proxy such as squid,
[13:51] <tsunamie> cson - worked it out. Thanks. I ran the command manaully outside of the script and started debugging it from there. The problem siss that you need to add -- and then put the flags on the end of that
[13:52] <theadmin> What's the correct way to start an OpenVPN connection on boot? The configuration is stored in a single .ovpn file and NetworkManager doesn't like inline keys
[13:52] <Zyroo> cson: I have a dedicated firewall infront of all thats why i am asking for no iptable
[13:52] <tsunamie> cson, this is because the start-stop-daemon thinks the flags I am adding onto the end of the command are apart of the start-stop-daemon requests and not flags to feed into the damon command
[13:53] <Zyroo> ikonia: Is there any way with kernel route tables
[13:53] <cson> tsunamie: cool, running shit manually always helps.
[13:53] <ikonia> iptables is the kenrel routing
[13:53] <Zyroo> so if i use ip route command iptables is working behind it right?
[13:54] <ikonia> Zyroo: no
[13:54] <magdur_> guys could you suggest a software like working ccleaner?
[13:54] <Zyroo> ikonia: ok
[13:55] <theadmin> magdur_: BleachBit gets close enough.
[13:56] <BluesKaj> magdur_, clean autoclean and autoremove , with apt-get
[13:56] <cson> theadmin/ikonia: does compiz suck on your desktop?
[13:56] <theadmin> cson: Uh, no. Works fine here. If you experience graphics issues the suggestion is to stay on 12.04 for now.
[13:57] <theadmin> cson: Or just use a different DE.
[13:57] <cson> theadmin: damn.  I have to use 13 because 12 doesn't detect some of my newer hardware correctly.
[13:57] <theadmin> cson: Ah. Just fire up Xubuntu for example then
[13:57] <jack---> saucy works perfectly here
[13:59] <cson> I've already invested too much time into setting up the perfect dev environment.. 13.10 must be around the corner.
[14:00] <theadmin> cson: You don't have to reinstall, eh, you can just install Xfce from within your current setup.
[14:01] <cson> theadmin: honestly I've had really bad luck with lubuntu and xubuntu.. particularly with GRUB.
[14:01] <theadmin> cson: sudo apt-get --no-install-recommends xubuntu-desktop
[14:02] <ActionParsnip> cson: sudo apt-get install xfce4
[14:02] <theadmin> cson: Err. GRUB has nothing to do with those -- they use the same source tree and package versions as the plain Ubuntu
[14:02] <jack---> nothing to do with anybuntu
[14:02] <Blacklite_> I'd like to repeal a ban from #ubuntu-offtopic
[14:02] <jack---> grub is grub
[14:02] <theadmin> Blacklite_: Please join #ubuntu-ops for the purpose.
[14:02] <Pici> Blacklite_: #ubuntu-ops
[14:02] <ActionParsnip> Blacklite_: ask in #ubuntu-ops
[14:02] <Blacklite_> thanks
[14:02] <theadmin> cson: Err, sorry, sudo apt-get --no-install-recommends install xubuntu-desktop
[14:03] <ActionParsnip> cson: lubuntu and xubuntu differ only by the default app set once the OS loads, the kernel and grub are 100% identical
[14:03] <theadmin> cson: With recommends it will pull a bunch of Xubuntu-specific stuff in, you usually don't want that
[14:03] <theadmin> cson: Without, it's just the desktop
[14:03] <alkisg> Hi, in 12.04 all java applets crash my firefox, could someone try to load this page, so that in case he succeeds, would tell me what version of java he has so that I can use that one instead?
[14:03] <alkisg> Warning, might crash your firefox: http://ebooks.edu.gr/modules/ebook/show.php/DSB102/536/3539,14538/extras/Activities/Kef1_1_barkaris/Kef1_1_barkaris.html
[14:03] <cson> GRUB fucked up with a fresh install of xubuntu 12.04 for me.. I had to do some hackish shit on the MBR just so the laptop wouldn't boot into the windows 8 partition.
[14:04] <cson> however, ubuntu got it right so there's some difference.
[14:04] <theadmin> alkisg: Doesn't crash here. Just hangs.
[14:04] <alkisg> theadmin: with 100% cpu usage for java/firefox?
[14:05] <theadmin> alkisg: No, just... hangs. Doesn't do anything :/
[14:05] <theadmin> alkisg: Gray square, is all
[14:06] <theadmin> alkisg: Also the site is in Greek.
[14:06] <alkisg> theadmin: I have the gray square here too, but in top ==>  9824 alkisg    20   0 1283m  56m  18m S  100  1.4   7:05.54 java ==> that 100% is the java cpu usage, and in .xsession-errors I see problems with net.sourceforge.jnlp.runtime.JNLPClassLoader.initializeResources
[14:06] <alkisg> Sorry about the Greek, but no worries, I'm not asking anyone to understand what it says there :)
[14:07] <cson> computerssssssssssss
[14:08] <ActionParsnip> alkisg: which java are you using?
[14:09] <theadmin> alkisg: Well, here it takes about 1% of CPU, but doesn't do anything... useful regardless
[14:09] <theadmin> Considering it's a Java app, a CPU usage that low is suspicious
[14:09] <alkisg> ActionParsnip: openjdk 6, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6192382/
[14:10] <ActionParsnip> alkisg: tried oracle java?
[14:10] <alkisg> theadmin: you're supposed to see the problem with the wolf, the sheep and the box of cabbage there
[14:10] <alkisg> The gray box means it failed
[14:11] <alkisg> ActionParsnip: thanks,let me try...
[14:11]  * alkisg was just wondering if the "default" java installation was working for anyone here...
[14:11] <cson> theadmin: alright running apt-get xubuntu-desktop now... forgot the --no-install-recommends though
[14:11] <alkisg> Because it never works for me, since 12.04 - it was working in previous versions
[14:11] <ActionParsnip> alkisg: webupd8 have a ppa for it
[14:11] <ActionParsnip> alkisg: miakes installing easier
[14:12] <alkisg> ty, trying...
[14:12] <angs> when I do apt-get update and upgrade on ubuntu 12.04, I get "/sbin/ldconfig.real: Can't open configuration file /usr/local/lib: Too many open files" message. how can I close unnecessary files or what can I do with it?
[14:12] <ActionParsnip> angs: tried a reboot?
[14:13] <angs> no but it is not my first time I get such error
[14:13] <angs> can I increase the opened file limit?
[14:13] <cson> ang: try lsof and start killing shit
[14:13] <ActionParsnip> angs: do your partitions have free space?
[14:14] <BluesKaj> cson, stuff would be a better word
[14:14] <ActionParsnip> angs: df -h      will show you
[14:14] <angs> hmm that could be the problem, I have less space
[14:14] <angs> like 1 GB
[14:14] <angs> I will try to remove some unnecessary files, thanks ActionParsnip
[14:15] <cson> make sure you have free inodes too
[14:15] <angs> how can I check it?
[14:15] <cson> it's probably df -i
[14:15] <cson> you'll have to man it
[14:16] <angs> cson, thanks
[14:18] <cson> xubuntu-desktop installed, rebooting.
[14:19] <alkisg> ActionParsnip: yeah, the oracle java works fine. Too bad that openjdk just hangs...  :-/ thanks you!
[14:20] <troulouliou_dev> hi can i install   ubuntu 13.04 from the x86 desktop iso on a cpu that does not support pae (this kernel require the flollowing featuresnot present on the cpu cmovbe ...)
[14:22] <theadmin> troulouliou_dev: You can't, you need to use the network install, it provides pae-less images
[14:22] <alkisg> troulouliou_dev: the cmov issue is not the same as the pae issue
[14:22] <alkisg> You need 10.04 for that
[14:23] <alkisg> theadmin: 13.04 has a non-pae kernel in the repositories?!
[14:23] <troulouliou_dev> alkisg,exact mesage is ..not present on the cpu : movbe
[14:23] <theadmin> alkisg: Yeah, it does, but the images are built with PAE
[14:23] <troulouliou_dev> maybe cmovbe :) screen is not well aligned
[14:23] <theadmin> alkisg: The network install provides a non-PAE image
[14:23] <alkisg> theadmin: are you sure? can you give me a link to packages.ubuntu.com that shows the non-pae kernel in 13.04?
[14:24] <alkisg> Because I was pretty sure that 12.04 was the last one to have non-pae kernels available...
[14:24] <alkisg> And that from 12.10 even the name of the kernel doesn't contain pae anymore, because there's nothing else
[14:25] <alkisg> troulouliou_dev: I haven't seen the movbe message, but for the cmov message, 12.04 isn't working, it needs 10.04
[14:25] <ActionParsnip> alkisg: if it works then screw it
[14:25] <theadmin> alkisg: Oh, never mind, you are correct
[14:25] <alkisg> I think both cases are different than the pae/nonpae issue
[14:25] <theadmin> alkisg: I was thinking 12.04
[14:25] <alkisg> theadmin: thanks for checking.
[14:25] <troulouliou_dev> alkisg, ok checking for the movbe on internet; maybe not related to pae then
[14:26] <cson> theadmin: thanks for the push.  xubuntu has freed up my cores.  I can even watch vlc full screen now.
[14:26] <theadmin> cson: err... well... good?
[14:26] <theadmin> cson: lol
[14:26] <cson> what a difference
[14:27] <ActionParsnip> cson: lighter on resources
[14:27] <ActionParsnip> cson: doesnt use junk compiz
[14:28] <cson> actionparsnip: yeah this is amazing, compiz was burning up cores, and tuning it with ccgm just made it worst.
[14:29] <ActionParsnip> cson: you can use a different WM with Gnome if you want, you can use xfwin4 with Gnome but if you are happy with the result you have then I'd stick
[14:30] <theadmin> ActionParsnip: You can't use a different WM with Unity though. Unity's a Compiz plugin
[14:30] <ActionParsnip> theadmin: yes bt compiz was the issue, Gnome is still the DE
[14:30] <theadmin> (which is a terrible decision. They really gotta make it standalone)
[14:30] <troulouliou_dev> any idea what this movbe requirement is ?
[14:30] <ActionParsnip> theadmin: disable unity, install tint2 and have it run at boot, job done
[14:31] <theadmin> ActionParsnip: eheh, nah, I like Unity
[14:31] <ActionParsnip> theadmin: i prefer openbox as standalone wm :)
[14:35] <sedeki> I have a python script that never finishes, where do I put it to run it on startup?
[14:35] <cson> sedeki: your .bashrc would work
[14:35] <cson> unless you want it to run at the system level
[14:36] <angs> does ubuntu use  old kernel versions (linux-image-X.X.XX-XX-generic)?
[14:36] <kostkon> sedeki, startup apps?
[14:36] <Knuckle> I created a live USB stick, with a 4 GB persistence file. Can I assume any unused space after that will never be necessary and I can decrease the partition size to match the data there?
[14:37] <k1l> angs: ?
[14:38] <angs> I have linux-image-3.5.0-21-generic to linux-image-3.5.0-40-generic. I will remove old versions as they occupy 115 MB space each. are they needed files?
[14:38] <valashu> hi everyone! running into some problems with wine: "could not load python.dll"
[14:38] <valashu> msr,y m a little lost there
[14:38] <k1l> angs: no you can delete theese old kernel packages. and remove the linux-headers files too. but keep at least one kernel :)
[14:39] <angs> sure:) thanks :)
[14:39] <angs> do you know why ubuntu does not remove old ones as it gets a newer version
[14:40] <theadmin> angs: If the new one doesn't work for you, you can just use the old one
[14:40] <theadmin> angs: If it does work, you should remove old ones
[14:41] <theadmin> angs: This will remove all kernels apart from the currently running one: dpkg -l 'linux-*' | sed '/^ii/!d;/'"$(uname -r | sed "s/\(.*\)-\([^0-9]\+\)/\1/")"'/d;s/^[^ ]* [^ ]* \([^ ]*\).*/\1/;/[0-9]/!d' | xargs sudo apt-get -y purge
[14:41] <tty2> hey guys so i just installed ubuntu on a chroot inside my chromebook.. everythign works fine. but by default gnome appears to be in "touch" mode. Meaning that instead of the usual toolbars you see at the top and bottom there is this touch interface. It also seems to lack workspaces, etc. So my question is, any idea on how to force it back to looking like a regular gnome desktop?
[14:41] <angs> theadmin, thanks
[14:42] <theadmin> tty2: Ubuntu uses Unity nowadays, not the GNOME shell or panel
[14:42] <Mrokii> Hello. What can I do when, after a crash and a reset my system (login-screen) doesn't come up anymore? I go to the window that talks about starting in low graphics mode but that seems to hang as well.
[14:42] <Strit> What does this mean: Oct  4 16:19:33 strit-ubuntu kernel: [31757.129427] phy2 -> rt2x00usb_vendor_request: Error - Vendor Request 0x07 failed for offset 0x7010 with error -71.
[14:42] <tty2> theadmin, are you telling me i cant run gnome on ubuntu?
[14:42] <theadmin> tty2: You can, you just need to install gnome-shell or gnome-panel
[14:43] <tty2> theadmin, well that is probably what the app that installed this did (i dont know how to check, but i explicitly told it to install gnome)
[14:43] <tty2> theadmin, so assuming it installed gnome-panel or gnome-shell, what would the solution be?
[14:44] <theadmin> tty2: Eh. Do you have a panel on the left with the Ubuntu logo on it and "pinned" apps?
[14:44] <dlsffef> Before you login dosent give you the option to run Gnome classic?
[14:45] <tty2> theadmin, nope, i have a single toolbar across the top, int he top left it says "Activities" which brings up a touch-based menu of apps, in the middle is the time/date and to the right is my username with a drop down with logoff, system settings, etc
[14:45] <theadmin> tty2: Ah, that's GNOME.
[14:45] <theadmin> tty2: The Gnome Shell. It's not a touch interface, it's just how GNOME looks by default nowadays
[14:45] <theadmin> tty2: Install gnome-panel for the "classic" GNOME look.
[14:45] <tty2> theadmin, wow really? i hate it!
[14:46] <tty2> theadmin, ok gnome-panel it is then.. though im not sure how to unintall this and install the other.. bah crouton automated everything :(
[14:46] <tty2> i am used to gentoo so it is already a big change for me to use ubuntu at all
[14:46] <theadmin> tty2: Click: http://apt.ubuntu.com/p/gnome-session-fallback
[14:47] <BluesKaj> tty2, then ubuntu will be a welcome relief for you :)
[14:47] <alkisg> theadmin: ah, btw, apturl no longer works since some months now (it worked before), at least in my 12.04, so the link you posted doesn't work, does it work for you/
[14:47] <alkisg> ?
[14:47] <Strit> My wireless adapter disconnects me from the internet sometimes. When it happens I get the following in /var/log/syslog: Oct  4 16:19:33 strit-ubuntu kernel: [31757.129427] phy2 -> rt2x00usb_vendor_request: Error - Vendor Request 0x07 failed for offset 0x7010 with error -71.
[14:47] <alkisg> Firefox then prompts "what application should I open that link with?"
[14:48] <alkisg> It doesn't know about apt...
[14:48] <tty2> BluesKaj, i started on debian before moving to gentoo. I really have no complaints over gentoo. but the last thing i wanna start is a distro war :)
[14:48] <theadmin> alkisg: Opens with the Software Centre here
[14:48] <alkisg> theadmin: which ubuntu version?
[14:48] <theadmin> tty2: If you prefer the command-line, run "sudo apt-get install gnome-session-fallback"
[14:48] <theadmin> alkisg: 13.04. But worked on 12.04 too...
[14:48] <alkisg> It did; it stopped working a few months ago
[14:49] <alkisg> It might be missing some "firefox-gnome-integration" or something...
[14:49] <theadmin> alkisg: Install xul-ext-ubufox
[14:49] <BluesKaj> tty2, it was merely a comment meant to be humorous
[14:49] <alkisg> theadmin: could you please pastebin the output of this? dpkg -l '*firefox*'|grep ^ii
[14:49] <alkisg> Right, let me see...
[14:49] <tty2> theadmin, apparently that was already installed
[14:49] <theadmin> alkisg: I don't use FF, so that ain't gonna do much...
[14:49] <alkisg> It's installed
[14:49] <u3> html decoder ?
[14:49] <theadmin> tty2: Oh, okay. Log out, click on the circle thing in the login screen and choose "GNOME Classic".
[14:50] <alkisg> theadmin: ah, maybe you've manually set the apt: url handler, then, in your browser's preferences...
[14:50] <tty2> theadmin, im pretty sure if i logout i just windup back at the chromebook os.. but let me try
[14:50] <theadmin> tty2: Oh... Huh.
[14:50] <theadmin> alkisg: Nope, it just worked magically
[14:50] <alkisg> theadmin: google-chrome? chromium?
[14:50] <u3> ubuntu 13.04 gnome shell classic
[14:50] <theadmin> alkisg: Google Chrome
[14:51] <u3> don work
[14:51] <fossterer> Hi! I have a problem making a script executable <headbang>
[14:51] <fossterer> #!/bin/sh doesn't help
[14:51] <alkisg> theadmin: yeah google-chrome is smarter, it's using xdg-open instead of some @#(*&@#$ internal mapping like firefox
[14:52] <theadmin> alkisg: Can't you tell Firefox to use xdg-open too?
[14:52] <Tylertwo> fossterer: What permissions does the script have?
[14:52] <tty2> theadmin, yup, logout just puts me back at chromeos (from there i can access the shell for ubuntu specifically though (its a chroot)
[14:53] <u3> Hello how can i get the freetuxtv on ubuntu 12.04.3
[14:53] <tty2> theadmin, so if there is a config file somewhere i can edit to tell startgnome to use gnome-panel i can edit it
[14:53] <Strit> fossterer, you need to make it executable by chmod +x /path/to/file
[14:53] <theadmin> tty2: Hm, I have no idea what to do with that...
[14:53] <theadmin> tty2: Can you just run "gnome-session-fallback"?
[14:53] <alkisg> theadmin: per user, yeah, but unfortunately the problem is that we can't use apt:// URLs in how-to's anymore
[14:53] <tty2> instead of startgnome?
[14:54] <theadmin> tty2: Yeah
[14:54] <tty2> theadmin, i can give it a go, brb
[14:54] <kostkon> !find freetuxtv
[14:54] <kostkon> !info freetuxtv
[14:54] <flare> hi i have problem to install private drivers in ubuntu 13.04
[14:54] <theadmin> alkisg: This is broken :/
[14:54] <kostkon> !info freetuxtv precise
[14:55] <flare> i dont have internet
[14:55] <ActionParsnip> flare: what are 'private drivers'?
[14:55] <wadie> I can't see the video of any movie..happening on vlc and movie player. using unity 2d
[14:55] <flare> privative
[14:55] <BluesKaj> orbly means proprietary
[14:56] <ActionParsnip> wadie: what is the output of:  cat /etc/issue
[14:56] <BluesKaj> probly
[14:56] <ActionParsnip> flare: yes, do you mean 'Proprietary'?
[14:56] <ActionParsnip> flare: like Nvidia drivers?
[14:56] <flare> yes
[14:56] <wadie> ActionParsnip, Ubuntu 12.04.3 LTS \n \l
[14:56] <Strit> flare, Propriatery?
[14:56] <flare> all drivers
[14:56] <ActionParsnip> wadie: do you have video driverz set up well?
[14:57] <Strit> flare, wireless USB or ethernet?
[14:57] <wadie> not sure,but it was all working fine on unity 3d
[14:57] <ActionParsnip> flare: what are you wanting to install drivers for? What hardware?
[14:58] <flare> ubunto didnt recognize video drivers
[14:58] <wadie> ActionParsnip, not sure,but it was all working fine on unity 3d
[14:58] <flare> thats the problem
[14:58] <ActionParsnip> flare: what video chip do you use?
[14:58] <flare> zafire
[14:58] <ActionParsnip> flare: ubuntu, not ubunto
[14:58] <flare> zaphire
[14:58] <ActionParsnip> flare: ati?
[14:59] <ActionParsnip> flare: run:  lspci | grep -i vga    what is output?
[14:59] <u3> have some one here have Firefox open 1000 websites,and the pc is wery slow,i think it was a virus
[14:59] <ActionParsnip> u3: depends on RAM amount, if you have a low amount of RAM it will be slow
[14:59] <ActionParsnip> !virus | u3
[15:00] <ActionParsnip> u3: this isnt windows, so suggesting it is a virus is ridiculous
[15:01] <flare> the chip is ati turks pro (radeon hd 6570)
[15:01] <ActionParsnip> flare: ok and run:  cat /etc/issue    what is output?
[15:01] <u3> ubottu,thank you
[15:01] <tty2> theadmin, ok so that didnt work.. i did find however where gnome is called in the config files
[15:02] <ActionParsnip> u3: so, how can it be a virus?
[15:02] <Ari-Yang> flare, I would not advise you to use fglrx (unless you're an avid gamer) because it has terrible 2D acceleration.
[15:03] <u3> if i write it this way what is a virus
[15:03] <flare> cat /etc issue didnt run
[15:03] <fossterer> Tylertwo: Strit: I tried 777, 755 & with/without sudo too but in vain!
[15:03] <flare> because didnt exist directory
[15:04] <BluesKaj> cat /etc/issue , flare
[15:04] <flare> ari-yang:i write like that
[15:04] <tty2> brb gonna gtry something else
[15:04] <wadie> ActionParsnip, it says in the system details that the graphics card is unkown
[15:05] <ActionParsnip> u3: a virus is defined as a program that repicates itself to other systems
[15:05] <ActionParsnip> wadie: what GPU do you use?
[15:05] <Strit> fossterer, you shouldn't use numbers for it, just use chmod +x and afterwards run it with ./filename
[15:05] <ActionParsnip> wadie: lspci | grep -i vga    will tell you
[15:05] <wadie> intel family graphics
[15:05] <wadie> 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82G33/G31 Express Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 10)
[15:06] <ActionParsnip> wadie: then you could try the xorg edgers update ppa (less fresh, more stable) or you could formulate an xorg.conf file to specify better settings than udev can detect
[15:06] <Tylertwo> fossterer: What do you mean "in vain"? You successfully changed the permissions but it still wouldn't run?
[15:06] <flare> cat/etc/issue not working
[15:06] <wadie> how do I go for the less fresh more stable update ?
[15:07] <BluesKaj> flare , there's aspace after cat
[15:07] <flare> the directory not exist
[15:07] <flare> ok
[15:07] <BluesKaj> copy and paste it
[15:07] <BluesKaj> flare, cat /etc/issue
[15:07] <ActionParsnip> flare: note thespace in the command
[15:08] <mipo> I have error on update: W: GPG error: http://archive.ubuntu.com raring Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 40976EAF437D05B5 Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key <ftpmaster@ubuntu.com>
[15:08] <ActionParsnip> flare: cat /etc/issue   is not cat/etc/issue    is it...
[15:08] <stroodlepup> my card reader still worked with the 2.6.x kernel, I currently use the 3.2.x kernel. how do I make it work in 3.2?
[15:08] <wadie> ActionParsnip, how do I do it ?
[15:08] <ActionParsnip> mipo: sudo apt-key adv --recv-key --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com 40976EAF437D05B5
[15:09] <fossterer> Tylertwo: you're right
[15:09] <ActionParsnip> wadie: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:ubuntu-x-swat/x-updates; sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade
[15:09] <fossterer> Tylertwo: It opens up with emacs on double-click
[15:09] <Strit> fossterer, did you run it by typing ./filename in terminal?
[15:09] <rsrx> Hi. Is there any ways to fix internal microphone noise for thinkpad x230?
[15:10] <fossterer> Strit: That works anyway.. I'm looking for making it a "click-executable"
[15:10] <wadie> ActionParsnip, Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[15:10] <Strit> fossterer, not sure that is possible anymore. I haven't been able to do it yet. :)
[15:10] <mipo> ActionParsnip: I have the last error again
[15:11] <ActionParsnip> wadie: are you installing updates or packages?
[15:11] <wadie> updates
[15:11] <stroodlepup> hello?
[15:11] <wadie> just what you gave me
[15:11] <NeoKarna> rsrx, are you using 13.04 ?
[15:11] <stroodlepup> would backports solve my problem?
[15:11] <ActionParsnip> wadie: so, software centre isnt open
[15:12] <rsrx> NeoKarna: yes
[15:12] <fossterer> Strit: ohh!
[15:12] <fossterer> Tylertwo: Do u know how to make it click-executable?
[15:12] <Mrokii> Hello. I need help! My computer crashed and now I don't see the lightdm-login screen anymore. I managed to install gdm but the desktop session that is started doesn't use my preference files (like for firefox or any other app). What can I do?
[15:13] <NeoKarna> rsrx,  did you check this http://askubuntu.com/search?q=microphone+noise
[15:13] <ActionParsnip> Mrokii: boot to liveCD and fsck your partitions
[15:13] <Tylertwo> fossterer: Nope
[15:13] <stroodlepup> hello?
[15:14] <Mrokii> ActionParsnip: I'll need to see where/if I have a liveCD at the moment, but thanks.
[15:14] <wadie> ActionParsnip, I have software centre open but getting the same error
[15:14] <ActionParsnip> wadie: it needs to be closed
[15:14] <fossterer> Strit: Tylertwo: So, I can't make click-executables anymore?
[15:14] <wadie> how do I close it /
[15:14] <Strit> fossterer, not that I know of.
[15:15] <NeoKarna> rsrx,  see if that helps
[15:15] <wadie> ActionParsnip, how do I close it ?
[15:16] <ActionParsnip> wadie: its a program, like any other application in any other OS, close the window.....
[15:17] <wadie> ActionParsnip, because I've done that already and still not working
[15:17] <Tylertwo> fossterer: Well, I just made a shell script to try it out and set it at 764. When I double click it from nautilus it asks me if I wnat to execute or open it with a text editor..
[15:18] <fossterer> Tylertwo: really? :_( Why does it hate me then?
[15:18] <ActionParsnip> wadie: reboot, then try
[15:19] <fossterer> your shebang?
[15:19] <Tylertwo> fossterer: I guess that's close to what you want? Are you sure you're setting the permissions right? Type ls -l to check and paste the output here?
[15:20] <ActionParsnip> fossterer: is the file chmodded executable, and in the file properties did you set to run in a terminal?
[15:20] <fossterer> Tylertwo: ActionParsnip:
[15:20] <fossterer> me@me-Lenovo-G560:~/Desktop$ ls -l firefox
[15:20] <fossterer> -rwxrwxrwx 1 me me 46 Oct  4 10:32 firefox
[15:21] <ActionParsnip> fossterer: what does the script do?
[15:21] <Tylertwo> fossterer: Try renaming it firefox.sh? Permissions look good
[15:21] <ActionParsnip> Tylertwo: file extensions do nothing in Linux
[15:22] <Tylertwo> ActionParsnip: oh ok
[15:22] <fossterer> Tylertwo: I startedd it that way of course..
[15:22] <ActionParsnip> Tylertwo: this isnt windows
[15:22] <ActionParsnip> fossterer: is this to run a firefox script from a manually installed Firefox?
[15:23] <fossterer> firefox was included in the distro.. I'm js making it invoke ProfileManager by this script
[15:23] <rsrx> NeoKarna: sure. There are no real solution (only one for old versions of the kernel, so it's another bug). Looks like ubuntu just can't work correctly with stereo microphone
[15:24] <ActionParsnip> fossterer: then why not make a copy of /usr/share/applications on your desktop, then edit it. You don't need a script
[15:24] <SchrodingersScat> fossterer: it was too much to make an alias?
[15:24] <ActionParsnip> fossterer: you just need to edit the Exec=   line in the .desktop file (you can also edit the display name and keep it in the applications folder and it will show in Dash
[15:25] <NeoKarna> rsrx,  frankly speaking I really don't use microphones, so all I can do is just point you to something related to your question. Its sad though that none of it worked
[15:25] <fossterer> ActionParsnip: Well, that doesn't hurt.. Good idea!
[15:26] <rsrx> NeoKarna: anyway, thanks for trying help)
[15:26] <jmgk> hey NeoKarna
[15:26] <ActionParsnip> fossterer: bit easier
[15:26] <fossterer> ActionParsnip: SchrodingersScat: But what if this is not firefox
[15:26] <NeoKarna> rsrx,  can you tell me more about your problem ?
[15:26] <fossterer> Any general answer?
[15:26] <valashu> how do i make wine run on a different screen?
[15:27] <ActionParsnip> fossterer: I make a script, then make a file in /usr/share/applications to run it :)
[15:27] <fossterer> SchrodingersScat: ActionParsnip: I'm still looking for answer..
[15:28] <CalabYauManifold> hey gays
[15:28] <fossterer> for any general application
[15:28] <sasha_> hi, somebody to talk?
[15:29] <CalabYauManifold> how can I install build-essentials without internet connection? I downloaded the package, but it always wants to download "additional stuff"
[15:29] <SchrodingersScat> fossterer: I only saw you mention starting it with the profile manager flag, you could make an alias to run whatever command you like with the --ProfileManager
[15:29] <rsrx> NeoKarna: stereo microphone on my laptop produces a lot of noise. There are special software from realtek for windows to use it, but nothing similar for ubuntu.
[15:29] <ActionParsnip> CalabYauManifold: build-essential is a metapackage, packages.ubuntu.com will be able to give you the names of packages it hauls in, you will also need to satisfy any deps thse packages have and so on and so on
[15:30] <tty3> theadmin: i decided to format the whole box and just install xfce instead :)
[15:30] <CalabYauManifold> can you please write the answer again? I have some weird screen error
[15:30] <tty3> seems i need to abandon my gnome appreciation
[15:30] <CalabYauManifold> sry
[15:30] <tty3> hmm maybe i should go all the way back to fluxbox :)
[15:30] <ActionParsnip> tty3: why not, fluxbox rocks hard
[15:31] <tty3> ActionParsnip: yea i used to love flux box
[15:31] <theadmin> tty3: Xfce is quite a bit similar to GNOME2
[15:31] <tty3> yea thats why i decided to go with xfce, it seems similar
[15:31] <theadmin> tty3: Infact, I find that it's even better than GNOME 2, because it has resizable panels, and you can have any number of panels, not just 4, and the filemanager isn't weird, and...
[15:31] <theadmin> tty3: So many more advantages
[15:32] <tty3> yea
[15:32] <tty3> usually i went with gnome because it was super light weight and had the features i wwanted atleast
[15:32] <tty3> but with the move to gnome 3 i need to give up on that view
[15:32] <theadmin> tty3: That's Xfce now lol
[15:32] <CalabYauManifold> packages.ubuntu.com doesnt give me the names it haultts in, there are only the dependencies
[15:32] <CalabYauManifold> but I'm not sure which deps are installed
[15:33] <CalabYauManifold> why is this always complicated?
[15:33] <ActionParsnip> CalabYauManifold: what is the output of:  cat /etc/issue
[15:33] <CalabYauManifold> ??
[15:33] <CalabYauManifold> ok wait
[15:33] <ActionParsnip> CalabYauManifold: because yu dont have a web connection. With web access you could install easily
[15:33] <ActionParsnip> CalabYauManifold: same with ANY OS installing apps from the web
[15:34] <CalabYauManifold> yes but at least I can download software an install it as normal in other os
[15:34] <ActionParsnip> CalabYauManifold: you can in Ubuntu
[15:34] <CalabYauManifold> ok wait
[15:34] <CalabYauManifold> no because of my problem
[15:35] <CalabYauManifold> isnt there a package which doesnt need to download additional stuff??
[15:35] <ActionParsnip> CalabYauManifold: all the packages are online, there are some on the install CD
[15:36] <ActionParsnip> CalabYauManifold: is the system a laptop?
[15:36] <CalabYauManifold> I only need the make program
[15:36] <CalabYauManifold> no
[15:36] <CalabYauManifold> I want to install some driver
[15:36] <ActionParsnip> CalabYauManifold: make has deps which need satisfying
[15:36] <theadmin> CalabYauManifold: It's called dependencies. It's actually rather helpful. With Windows they are always included with the app, which means you have the same stuff installed over and over again because apps reuse libraries etc, Ubuntu fixes this issue with dependencies, but you need an internet connection, yah
[15:37] <CalabYauManifold> hm
[15:37] <CalabYauManifold> I need to install the freaking driver to get access to the internet
[15:37] <tty3> theadmin: :)
[15:37] <CalabYauManifold> what is this circular login?
[15:37] <ActionParsnip> CalabYauManifold: http://packages.ubuntu.com/precise/build-essential
[15:37] <_andyj_> the livecd should have build-essentials right?
[15:37] <theadmin> _andyj_: No, I don't think it does
[15:37] <ActionParsnip> CalabYauManifold: you can get debs fr those, but you will need deps for those packages, and those packages
[15:38] <ActionParsnip> CalabYauManifold: you STILL haven't gioven the output of the command I gave
[15:38] <_andyj_> download another livecd then :)
[15:38] <CalabYauManifold> yeeeeeeeeeeeees I know, but I bet there is a package with EVERY dep of buikd-essentials
[15:38] <theadmin> CalabYauManifold: No, there's not. That's not how package management works.
[15:38] <TJ-> CalabYauManifold: This may help you: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGet/Offline
[15:38] <Viproz> hi
[15:39] <CalabYauManifold> I already downloaded this package, but it wants to download additional stuff from the internet
[15:39] <Viproz> playing GW2 on linux with wine is it worth than on windows ?
[15:39] <CalabYauManifold> @ TJ
[15:40] <Armadillos> Viproz: It works, but it's a LOT slower then on Windows 7.  It is playable though.  Use PlayonLinux to install it, as they have everything you need.
[15:41] <TJ-> CalabYauManifold: If you need to do that from another PC, that linked wiki page gives some tips on how to get the packages required.
[15:41] <Viproz> Armadillos: okay thanks, I should play it on windows then, my config isn't very good
[15:41] <Armadillos> Viproz: What is your config?
[15:43] <Viproz> I don't the list by hand but on windows I war raming a little bit
[15:43] <ActionParsnip> CalabYauManifold: you STILL haven't given the output of the command I gave
[15:43] <CalabYauManifold> GOD no wounder linux isn't a mainstream os, I'm pised
[15:43] <ActionParsnip> CalabYauManifold: its the same with Windows
[15:43] <Armadillos> Viproz: I have an i7 with a Geforce GTX 670, and I was averaging around 20 FPS on Medium settings.
[15:43] <CalabYauManifold> the pc is at the other end of earth, too lazy
[15:43] <Viproz> hum, I think raming is franch, mabe lagging is better
[15:43] <ActionParsnip> CalabYauManifold: ever had to copy KB files from one box to another via CD
[15:44] <CalabYauManifold> yes thats what I did with the dep package
[15:44] <CalabYauManifold> as I wrote above
[15:44] <ActionParsnip> CalabYauManifold: you STILL haven't given the output of the command I gave
[15:44] <Viproz> I must go, bye thanks for the info
[15:44] <calimero82> hi guys, i installed ubu 13.04 but it was too slow and the screen wasn't ok, maybe my pc isn't ok for ubu 13.04?
[15:44] <CalabYauManifold> ok wait? What was is ? cat /etc/issue??
[15:44] <CalabYauManifold> is = it
[15:44] <ActionParsnip> CalabYauManifold: yes, why has it taken so long?
[15:44] <CalabYauManifold> pc is not near me
[15:45] <ActionParsnip> calimero82: try a light session like XFCE
[15:45] <CalabYauManifold> I have to walk stairs and stuff but ok
[15:45] <calimero82> can i install lubu? it's ok for me?
[15:45] <CalabYauManifold> And btw should I give you the output? Remeber it, or type it on some paper? Hope its not long
[15:46] <ActionParsnip> CalabYauManifold: install lxde package and log off, then change session, then log in
[15:46] <ActionParsnip> CalabYauManifold: its a line of text, nothing massive
[15:47] <CalabYauManifold> ok your command was just stupid
[15:47] <CalabYauManifold> glad the cat program was installed
[15:47] <CalabYauManifold> was it really cat /etc/issue??
[15:47] <ActionParsnip> CalabYauManifold: yes
[15:47] <ActionParsnip> CalabYauManifold: cat /etc/issue
[15:47] <CalabYauManifold> out was just my linux distro
[15:47] <CalabYauManifold> trisquel
[15:48] <CalabYauManifold> output
[15:48] <theadmin> CalabYauManifold: ...Why are you asking for help with a nonsupported Ubuntu derivative?
[15:48] <ondrusu> Hello, I have a printer HP LaserJet 1020. If I want print pdf file, System write "printed" but no prints
[15:48] <ondrusu> Sorry my engish is bet
[15:48] <ondrusu> bat
[15:48] <cpined> hello, I had installed "Netflix Desktop" a while back...now when I try to launch it I get "Compositing is not available, please enable compositing support and relaunch Netflix Desktop"
[15:48] <ActionParsnip> ondrusu: do other files print ok?
[15:48] <CalabYauManifold> I just need to install build-essentials
[15:48] <theadmin> CalabYauManifold: Use Ubuntu. It might as well have the drivers you need. Trisquel is created by open-source maniacs for open-source maniacs, Ubuntu is created for normal people.
[15:49] <ondrusu> no nothing print
[15:49] <ActionParsnip> CalabYauManifold: not supported here
[15:49] <CalabYauManifold> oh god
[15:49] <CalabYauManifold> hm
[15:49] <ActionParsnip> CalabYauManifold: this is ubuntu support only
[15:49] <CalabYauManifold> I have an ubuntu version on my phone
[15:49] <ActionParsnip> CalabYauManifold: doesnt matter
[15:49] <OerHeks> trisquel has its own channel
[15:49] <CalabYauManifold> -.-
[15:49] <ActionParsnip> CalabYauManifold: the distro you are having issue with is not ubuntu
[15:49] <Ari-Yang> calimero82, you can install lubuntu or just run sudo apt-get install lxde to install the DE...
[15:50] <calimero82> thanks
[15:50] <CalabYauManifold> well, ok, then I look for the trisquel channel
[15:50] <ActionParsnip> CalabYauManifold: ask in #trisquel   their channel is also on Freenode
[15:50] <CalabYauManifold> thx for help and byebye
[15:50] <ActionParsnip> CalabYauManifold: http://trisquel.info/en/wiki/connect-trisquel-irc-channel
[15:50] <CalabYauManifold> already there
[15:50] <CalabYauManifold> :)
[15:52] <fishcooker> how to know the box using ssd or not?
[15:52] <Guest92502> hdmi sound has left me :/ i have not changed any thing but HDMI alternative is gone in the sound properties http://pastebin.com/fiZPLujA
[15:52] <ActionParsnip> fishcooker: sudo lshw -C disk; sudo lshw -C drive
[15:52] <Guest92502> help please
[15:53] <chispassss> i want help too!!!!!   i have problems with brocken software!!!
[15:53] <ActionParsnip> Guest92502: what is the output of: wget -O alsa-info.sh http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-info.sh && chmod +x ./alsa-info.sh && ./alsa-info.sh --upload
[15:54] <Ladyturkey> hi
[15:54] <Ari-Yang> Guest92502, you may need to add the boot parameter radeon.audio=1 to /etc/default/grub on line GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash " then run sudo update-grub
[15:54] <Ari-Yang> and then reboot
[15:55] <Guest92502> http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=84e28da3c542dfba3d6d0820f467ff1a8746f40b
[15:55] <Guest92502> But why should I have to do that. It used to worl all fine :/
[15:55] <ActionParsnip> Guest92502: tried the large command here in step 1: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshootingProcedure
[15:55] <ActionParsnip> Guest92502: may help
[15:57] <oupateddie> I have a Huawei E220 modem/dongle which I try to connect to my 12.04 laptop. When I plug in the moden it starts to flash a blue light, but I can't get it to connect to the internet. I would like to remove all files related to the automatic installation and try a fresh install of the modem. Will that be advisable
[15:58] <Guest92502> killall pulseaudio; rm -r ~/.config/pulse/* ; rm -r ~/.pulse*      -->Says:  No such file or dir
[15:58] <ActionParsnip> Guest92502: ok...I said the big file didn't I?
[15:59] <Guest92502> no you said large command
[15:59] <pii3> HI
[15:59] <ActionParsnip> Guest92502: they are synonyms
[15:59] <Guest92502> and i guessed i had to start from the top
[15:59] <pii3> i forgot username of my ubuntu
[15:59] <ActionParsnip> Guest92502: try reading the page a little more..
[15:59] <pii3> i know password i dont rememebr my username !
[15:59] <Guest92502> ok
[15:59] <cpined> hello, I had installed "Netflix Desktop" a while back...now when I try to launch it I get "Compositing is not available, please enable compositing support and relaunch Netflix Desktop"
[16:00] <ActionParsnip> pii3: boot to root recovery mode and run:  ls /home
[16:00] <pii3> its server i cannot restart
[16:00] <stereo1> /join #debian
[16:00] <Guest92502> #1A. If you are using Ubuntu 12.04.3 LTS (Precise Pangolin) or later, try this first:  yes to that one. but as noted above
[16:00] <fishcooker> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6192806/
[16:00] <ActionParsnip> pii3: if you can see the contents of the /home folder you will see your usernams
[16:00] <theadmin> pii3: Not a problem. Hold Shift while booting and boot into recovery mode, then run cat /etc/passwd | grep :1000: | awk -F ':' '{print $1;}'
[16:01] <fishcooker> ActionParsnip:
[16:01] <pii3> i have physical access
[16:01] <fishcooker> is it ata i think
[16:01] <cpined> hello, I had installed "Netflix Desktop" a while back...now when I try to launch it I get "Compositing is not available, please enable compositing support and relaunch Netflix Desktop"
[16:01] <ActionParsnip> Guest92502: that command is significantly smaller than the next one though, which you can easily see and should have lept off the screen at you as the one I was obviously meaning.
[16:01] <oupateddie> I have a Huawei E220 modem/dongle which I try to connect to my 12.04 laptop. When I plug in the moden it starts to flash a blue light, but I can't get it to connect to the internet. I would like to remove all files related to the automatic installation and try a fresh install of the modem. Will that be advisable
[16:01] <ActionParsnip> pii3: does anyone else have access ni any way and can log in ?
[16:02] <ActionParsnip> pii3: as the /etc/passwd file is user readable :)
[16:02] <pii3> no :(
[16:02] <ondrusu> acctionParsnip: no print
[16:02] <fishcooker> is it right?
[16:03] <ActionParsnip> fishcooker: search for: KingSpec KSM-mSA     online, what do you thinnk it is?
[16:03] <ActionParsnip> fishcooker: did you look online at all using the details you generated?
[16:04] <dirdirdir> hello
[16:04] <ActionParsnip> pii3: then you will need to schedule some downtime
[16:04] <ActionParsnip> pii3: do you not keep details like that documented?
[16:04] <dirdirdir> can someone help me boot, via usb, ubuntu?
[16:05] <darklajid> I'm looking for fts_lucene for dovecot. Is there a decent way to search for ppas or something that might provide it? I don't see an official package, unfortunately.
[16:05] <ActionParsnip> !details | dirdirdir
[16:06] <oupateddie> dirdirdir you make a startup usb stick and then boot from there
[16:06] <cpined> hello, I had installed "Netflix Desktop" a while back...now when I try to launch it I get "Compositing is not available, please enable compositing support and relaunch Netflix Desktop"
[16:06] <ActionParsnip> cpined: do you have Compiz running ok?
[16:06] <oupateddie> you'll have to set you machine's boot sequence to look for the usb port 1st before the HDD
[16:06] <ActionParsnip> cpined: are there bugs reported?
[16:06] <cpined> no bugs
[16:06] <cpined> just that error message, this used to run fine.
[16:07] <tty3> is there a way to set up where a mouse with a single button can be used to right click (setting it up so some hotkey when pressed causes the mouse click to act as a right click)??
[16:07] <cpined> ActionParsnip: what is Compiz?
[16:07] <dirdirdir> I have a problem, I can't connect to my internet router with ubuntu. I installed ubuntu via usb, first with "universal usb installer" and didn't got internet and couldn't move my mouse; then i tried with linuxLive usb creator, and got to move my mouse but didn't got internet
[16:07] <ActionParsnip> cpined: what gives all the worthless desktop effects on the screen
[16:07] <ActionParsnip> cpined: its a window manager
[16:07] <cpined> oh
[16:07] <Ari-Yang> cpined, compiz could slow some computers down...
[16:08] <cpined> ActionParsnip: how do I tell if it is running?
[16:09] <ActionParsnip> cpined: ps -ef | grep -i compiz
[16:10] <cpined> ActionParsnip: 00:00:00 grep --color=auto -i compiz --- output
[16:10] <dirdirdir> can somebody help me? I'm new and i don't understand what's going on here, hehe
[16:10] <dirdirdir> ???
[16:10] <ActionParsnip> cpined: then its not running
[16:10] <lmat> I installed libxkbcommon-dev, but I can't find xkbcommon.h anywhere.
[16:10] <ActionParsnip> dirdirdir: how do you connect to it?
[16:10] <rek> hi, mutt rocks
[16:11] <cpined> ActionParsnip:Does it need to be running for "Netflix Desktop" to function?
[16:11] <lmat> in fact,  find /usr/include -name 'xkb*'   doesn't return anything!
[16:11] <ActionParsnip> cpined: no idea. I dont use it. I'd assume so
[16:11] <rek> ActionParsnip: i've got a usb to com adapter recognized in my sys... how can i be sure it will work?
[16:12] <cpined> ok, thanks.
[16:13] <trism> lmat: strange I see it in 13.10: /usr/include/xkbcommon/xkbcommon.h
[16:13] <MonkeyDust> rek  try with live cd or usb
[16:13] <tor_> ActionParsnip: Great now my login screen is changed but I still only got analog audio. no hdmi.
[16:13] <MonkeyDust> rek  try with a live cd or usb
[16:14] <rek> MonkeyDust: mm i mean...i see it doin lsusb... but how can i be sure it will work properly
[16:14] <ActionParsnip> tor_: did you try switching your output device?
[16:14] <tor_> yes, nut it is still not there in the list
[16:15] <rek> i'll use it to program an EFI controller :) it will be cool
[16:15] <tor_> *but
[16:15] <MonkeyDust> rek  by trying to do something with it, i guess
[16:15] <rek> yeah... i don't have any come device now...oh wait i have a relay board here
[16:16] <rek> MonkeyDust: i have a velleman k8056 kit
[16:16] <rek> i could try this
[16:17] <rek> what will be the name of the com port? uhm
[16:18] <kongthap> if i mounted ext4 partition i would specify  the option field as "defaults", what if for ntfs partition what to specify for the "option field"???
[16:18] <tor_> the HDMI is present in the Pulse Volume Controll aplication. and it seems to play through HDMI cause the VU-meter is showing a signal playing. But no audio is comming and in the stock sound properties the hdmi is not even present
[16:19] <Ari-Yang> tor_, did you try adding that boot parameter I told you?
[16:20] <tor_> ActionParsnip: What now? What exactly did I install and why did it change my login screen?
[16:20] <rek> installing kde in ubuntu will mess up a lot of things
[16:20] <Ari-Yang> tor_, if you read the page, you would know....
[16:20] <tor_> Ari-Yang: no, i was mislead i think?
[16:21] <tor_> now i wonder how to undo what ActionParsnip told me to do
[16:21] <MonkeyDust> rek  i'm happy with kde
[16:21] <ActionParsnip> tor_: sounds like you install gdm, ten selected it as the dm
[16:21] <tor_> Ari-Yang: Can you tell how one more time?
[16:22] <Ari-Yang> oh you aren't that other guy, tor_ thought you were somebody else who couldn't get HDMI working...
[16:22] <Shadowandlight1> whats the chances of breaking something on my server running "apt-get upgrade"
[16:22] <Ari-Yang> [11:54:20] <Ari-Yang> Guest92502, you may need to add the boot parameter radeon.audio=1 to /etc/default/grub on line GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash " then run sudo update-grub
[16:22] <Ari-Yang> [11:54:25] <Ari-Yang> and then reboot
[16:22] <Ari-Yang> ^ tor_
[16:22] <tor_> Ari-Yang: it is correct. i was guest_somenumberhere
[16:23] <Ari-Yang> ah okay
[16:23] <Wug> Shadowandlight1: if it's only upgrading one or two things, not very high
[16:23] <Ari-Yang> make GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash " look like this: GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash radeon.audio=1"
[16:23] <Wug> if it wants to upgrade several hundred packages, I'd wait until you have a few hours to fix it in case something does go wrong
[16:23] <Shadowandlight1> 121 packages :(
[16:24] <PsyMar> Just installed Ubuntu 12.04 LTS.  Having trouble getting my Broadcom BCM4313 wireless card to work.
[16:24] <Wug> chances are it's probably ok
[16:24] <Wug> I bumped my server through 4 major versions last week and it updated 2000 packages
[16:24] <ActionParsnip> !broadcom | PsyMar
[16:24] <PsyMar> I've used that page.
[16:24] <tor_> Ari-Yang: where to find?
[16:25] <PsyMar> that was the first place I went, actionparsnip
[16:25] <Wug> I had to do some stuff to unbreak package dependencies, but I didn't ruin anything
[16:25] <PsyMar> I've tried both brcmsmac and wl -- brcmsmac lets me connect if I'm within about 15 feet of the router
[16:25] <PsyMar> wl doesn't seem to let me connect, period, although it keeps trying to connect
[16:25] <ActionParsnip> PsyMar: are there lots of wireless networks on the same channel near you
[16:25] <PsyMar> Not that I know of, and I have had no trouble under windows
[16:26] <PsyMar> although I don't know what channel everyone else has their wireless network on
[16:26] <lmat> trism: very strange!!
[16:26] <lmat> trism: I am using 12.04 but that shouldn't make a difference.
[16:26] <ActionParsnip> PsyMar: sudo iwlist scan | egrep 'ssid|chan'
[16:27] <PsyMar> I've currently got my router set to channel 11, I don't *think* that's the default
[16:27] <lmat> trism: How do I convince apt-get to give me xkbcommon headers ? :(
[16:27] <PsyMar> eth0 interface doesn't support scanning.
[16:27] <PsyMar> lo interface doesn't support scanning.
[16:27] <ActionParsnip> PsyMar: we dont need the output
[16:28] <ActionParsnip> PsyMar: YOU need to read it
[16:28] <trism> lmat: ahh according to packages.ubuntu.com it has a different name in 12.04: /usr/include/X11/extensions/XKBcommon.h
[16:28] <PsyMar> OK, but that doesn't help me any.
[16:28] <ActionParsnip> PsyMar: it does, are there many wifi networks on the same channel as you are using?
[16:28] <PsyMar> It doesn't list any wifi networks
[16:28] <PsyMar> or channels
[16:28] <PsyMar> it just lists those two interfaces that don't support scanning
[16:29] <PsyMar> maybe if I unplug the wired connection, but that'll disconnect me
[16:29] <ActionParsnip> PsyMar: try: sudo iwlist scan | egrep -i 'ssid|chan'
[16:30] <ActionParsnip> PsyMar: wifi can still scan, even with wired connection in
[16:30] <PsyMar> hm.  There's two 10s, two 6s, three 1s.  And mine isn't listed.
[16:30] <PsyMar> (but mine should be 11)
[16:30] <PsyMar> so none on the same channel I'm using, 2 on an adjacent channel
[16:31] <PsyMar> oh, there's mine listed, scrolled off the top
[16:31] <ActionParsnip> PsyMar: are you using hidden SSID?
[16:31] <PsyMar> no, I'm not
[16:31] <PsyMar> broadcast SSID is checked
[16:32] <cpined> ActionParsnip:I found a reference for bumblebee from you on the internet, do you still recommend that?  It was the response you gave for the same issue.
[16:35] <lmat> trism: Excellent work.
[16:36] <jost> Where do I get the hashes for Ubuntu images?
[16:37] <Star-Flower> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuHashes
[16:37] <Guest96128> HDMI tor here: the quiet splash radeon audio trick did not work either
[16:38] <jost> Star-Flower: thanks
[16:38] <loa> hello, how i can limit resources of all applications except one?
[16:38] <Star-Flower> jost, your welcome
[16:38] <loa> for example using taskset
[16:38] <loa> it is ok for my application use two cores of my cpu
[16:38] <loa> i tested this
[16:39] <Star-Flower> you can do it in system monitor
[16:39] <Star-Flower> just select all the processes except the one you want ot have high priority and right click choose low priority
[16:39] <Star-Flower> then right click the one you want ot have high and set that
[16:40] <loa> it will used always?
[16:40] <Star-Flower> i think it lasts until you restart, not sure how to make it permanent
[16:42] <PsyMar> ok, this is weird
[16:42] <PsyMar> I can't connect to my own wireless network, but I can connect to a neighbor's
[16:43] <PsyMar> maybe the problem is that it's channel 11 and that isn't used much?  I'll try changing it
[16:43] <Guest96128> I still have no HDMI audio. Need help
[16:43] <chro> why I can't put gadgets in my desktop ?
[16:43] <chro> like to see the temperature
[16:44] <jhutchins> PsyMar: Sometimes the rules for entering keys on two devices are incompatible.
[16:44] <CalabiYauManifol> hey
[16:44] <CalabiYauManifol> me again
[16:44] <CalabiYauManifol> ok I have the solution
[16:45] <CalabiYauManifol> can I somewhere download a precompiled file of ath9k_htc??
[16:45] <CalabiYauManifol> I forgot that I can download thing which are already compiled
[16:45] <CalabiYauManifol> things*
[16:46] <jhutchins> CalabiYauManifol: Which is basically everything in Ubuntu.
[16:46] <CalabiYauManifol> yes yes lol
[16:46] <CalabiYauManifol> hm
[16:47] <paulus68_1> chro: you can use conky for this happy reading and discovering http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=281865
[16:47] <CalabiYauManifol> But I need this driver
[16:48] <CalabiYauManifol> Ok I downloaded two *.fw files
[16:48] <CalabiYauManifol> what next?? What should I do to make it work^^
[16:49] <CalabiYauManifol> I need to place it somewhere
[16:50] <genii> CalabiYauManifol: Put it in /lib/firmware/
[16:50] <CalabiYauManifol> thats all??
[16:51] <CalabiYauManifol> ok good , and then modeswitch, i'll try it
[17:02] <diverdude> How do this on the ubuntu version of apache? httpd -V
[17:02] <toothe> When I do 'ifup wlan0', my wifi card does not get onto the network.
[17:02] <toothe> What might be causing that?
[17:02] <toothe> it just hangs there.
[17:02] <tor_> I need help to get back HDMI audio out. Atm it is not present in the audio output device list in sound manager
[17:03] <faugusztin> diverdude: apache2 -V ?
[17:03] <BluesKaj> toothe, what's your soundcard chip ?
[17:03] <BluesKaj> tor_,^
[17:04] <kongthap> if i mounted ext4 partition i would specify  the option field as "defaults", what if for ntfs partition what to specify for the "option field"???
[17:04] <toothe> BluesKaj: I do not know, but this is wifi, not sound....
[17:04] <diverdude> faugusztin, mmmm no ot does not seem like it
[17:04] <BluesKaj> toothe, sorry wrong nick
[17:04] <faugusztin> diverdude: what do you mean ? it prints out Server version: Apache/2.2.22 (Ubuntu) etc
[17:04] <faugusztin> diverdude: maybe sudo apache -V ?
[17:05] <diverdude> faugusztin, httpd -V is supposed to show the initial config file being read
[17:05] <BluesKaj> tor_,, what's your soundcard chip ?
[17:06] <faugusztin> diverdude: not sure what "httpd" do you mean, because "httpd -V" on my Apache 2 on Windows is showing exactly the same kind of information as "apache2 -V" on my ubuntu server
[17:06] <grnt> kongthap: UUID=<UUID>	/windows	ntfs-3g	defaults,rw,async,umask=0,user,locale=en_US.utf8,exec,uid=1000,gid=100	0 0
[17:07] <grnt> Where <UUID> is UUID of ntfs partition. To find it out, use `sudo blkid`
[17:07] <cson> diverdude: try which apache2, maybe your paths are fucked.
[17:08] <grnt> Also, make sure to create /windows mount point: `sudo mkdir /windows`. You can rename it too if you want.
[17:08] <IdleOne> cson: please mind your language
[17:08] <cson> which httpd, whatever.
[17:08] <BluesKaj> !language | cson
[17:08] <cson> ok sorry guys
[17:08] <kongthap> grnt: what's the different between ntfs-3g and ntfs??
[17:09] <tor_> BluesKaj: sorry i answer late
[17:09] <grnt> kongthap: ntfs-3g features more complete NTFS support. ntfs is unsafe if you plan to write to the volume, but suitable if you mount read only.
[17:10] <kongthap> ok
[17:10] <BluesKaj> tor_,  open alsamixer in the terminal , the audio chip will be listed in the upper left
[17:10] <tor_> BluesKaj:
[17:11] <kongthap> grnt: the last field should i use 0 or 2 ???
[17:11] <grnt> Use both zeros for two last fields.
[17:11] <tor_> BluesKaj:   IDT 92HD73C1X5
[17:11] <grnt> Verify that ntfs-3g is installed (it should be) with: dpkg --get-selections | grep ntfs-3g
[17:12] <PsyMar> Ugh.  It appears that I can connect to unsecured networks, but not to my WEP-128 secured network.  And I've typed the key over and over again, checked it each time, I *know* I have the right key, I even copied it off the router's webpage
[17:12] <kongthap> grnt: what about the other 2 ext4 partitions, right now i set the last field to 2, should i change to 0 ???
[17:12] <gordonjcp> PsyMar: are you sure the WEP key in the router hasn't been changed?
[17:13] <gordonjcp> PsyMar: it doesn't matter if it has, it'll only take a minute or two to crack
[17:13] <grnt> kongthap: do not touch anything in ext(2/4) partitions. They don't need to be modified.
[17:13] <PsyMar> Yes, I am looking at the WEP key in the router right now (have browser looking at 192.168.2.1)
[17:13] <kongthap> grnt: thanks
[17:14] <PsyMar> I'd change it to WPA, but then I'd need to know how to connect to that, *and* I'd need to know how to get my mom's windows box to connect to it
[17:14] <paulus68_1> PsyMar: try connection to your network without any passkey
[17:14] <tor_> BluesKaj: HDA Intel   IDT 92HD73C1X5
[17:14] <tty2> hey guys, so im trying to install avant-window-manager according to the following guide: http://www.webupd8.org/2012/11/how-to-install-avant-window-navigator.html however when i get to the apt-get install part it seems unable to recognize the package. Any ideas?
[17:14] <tty2> im on precise if that helps matters at all
[17:14] <BluesKaj> tor_, open a terminal , sudo modprobe snd-hda-intel ,the kernelmodule /driver should load , there will be no output from the command
[17:15] <PsyMar> paulus68: how?  I can see it has security mode set to 128bit WEP
[17:15] <BluesKaj> tor_, then reboot
[17:15] <tty2> and i notice apt-add-repository doesnt actually add it to the sources.list. atleast not the one i know of in /etc/apt
[17:16] <trism> tty2: they are added to separate files in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/
[17:16] <paulus68_1> PsyMar: if you are connected to your routers page you should be able to remove the passkey on the security part of your routers webpage
[17:16] <BluesKaj> tor_, also you should update and upgrade , so youyr graphics card links to the soundcard thru hdmi
[17:16] <tor_> BluesKaj: ok i will try a reboot now
[17:16] <PsyMar> ah, you mean temporarily disable the security
[17:16] <paulus68_1> PsyMar: yes
[17:17] <paulus68_1> PsyMar: or eventually go back to the factory settings
[17:17] <paulus68_1> PsyMar: if that doesn't interfear with your moms computer lol
[17:17] <PsyMar> and how do I make Ubuntu stop asking me for a password?
[17:17] <PsyMar> Mom's not using her computer at the moment
[17:18] <paulus68_1> PsyMar: you need to disable the security
[17:18] <PsyMar> I did!
[17:18] <tty2> trism: ahh ok
[17:18] <PsyMar> it's still showing up as secured in the list of networks
[17:18] <tty2> so that brings me back to the original problem.. why isnt avant-window-manager in there?
[17:19] <paulus68_1> PsyMar: rescan for available networks
[17:19] <PsyMar> let's try "connect to hidden wireless network"
[17:19] <PsyMar> oh, how do I do that?
[17:20] <PsyMar> aha!
[17:20] <PsyMar> ok, I'm on
[17:20] <PsyMar> with the security off
[17:20] <paulus68_1> PsyMar: great
[17:21] <PsyMar> now how do I secure it and make it work
[17:21] <PsyMar> again, broadcom router, I hear that doesn't play great with Ubuntu
[17:21] <paulus68_1> PsyMar: now you enter just a simple passkey to start with and check if you can connect with that to your network
[17:21] <PsyMar> by "simple passkey"...
[17:22] <PsyMar> I've got choices of 64-bit WEP, 128-bit WEP, or WPA/WPA2-Personal
[17:22] <paulus68_1> PsyMar: simple passkey wpa/wpa2 personal for example 123456 to start with
[17:23] <PsyMar> yeah I've got a simple one (it requires 8 chars though)
[17:23] <PsyMar> but then when I try to connect to that, it demands that I enter another password, which it won't let me enter one over 5 characters
[17:23] <paulus68_1> PsyMar: is also good but just avoid special chars like &è!() ect
[17:23] <YokoBR> hi guys. I have an hybrid hp ati laptop. Now i've installed the proprietary legacy driver, since my onboard gpu is hd4250. I've installed it with "The Fan Club" installer and it was working well. Yesterday i had a kernel update, and now everything is lagging. My specs are Hynix Semiconductor (Hyundai Electronics)  Mobility Radeon HD 4225/4250  Ubuntu 12.04  Linux Kernel: 3.2 X-Server version: 1.11, and this installer no longer gives m
[17:24] <YokoBR> the legacy 13.1 driver, only 13.10 beta
[17:25] <paulus68_1> PsyMar: and when you try to copy paste your password
[17:25] <grnt> Will AMD ever fix their Linux driver?
[17:25] <PsyMar> oh, I found the problem
[17:25] <PsyMar> it was "authentication" setting on the router
[17:26] <Guest35362> BluesKaj: tor_ here. still no luck. no hdmi sound and the test sound will not open either: http://pbrd.co/1aSM9zO
[17:26] <OerHeks> YokoBR, how did you install the driver? you didn't use the repository's?
[17:26] <PsyMar> needed to be set to WPA-PSK instead of WPA-PSK+WPA2-PSK
[17:26] <PsyMar> I think I'm on a secure network now
[17:26] <PsyMar> thanks for your help
[17:26] <Guest35362> BluesKaj: strange enough hdmi is mentioend on the right but it is not listed to the left
[17:26] <YokoBR> OerHeks, because i have this hybrid muxless issue. I need to use the legacy proprietary driver.
[17:27] <YokoBR> OerHeks, the opensource driver don't let me use the HD6310 gpu.
[17:27] <paulus68_1> PsyMar: your welcome
[17:27] <YokoBR> this is the installer http://www.thefanclub.co.za/how-to/ubuntu-amd-catalyst-install
[17:29] <YokoBR> Believe me, i've tryied many ways to use this drivers, on many distros.. this installer where the only thing working.
[17:30] <jack---> YokoBR, was
[17:30] <jack---> not where
[17:31] <YokoBR> jack---, sorry, english is not my native language.
[17:31] <jaredforthewin> Does anyone know of a good Ubuntu screen recording software?
[17:31] <grnt> YokoBR: tested AMD driver is available from Ubuntu repositories.
[17:31] <grnt> There's no need to used anything from thefanclub whatever it is.
[17:31] <YokoBR> grnt, legacy proprietary 13.1?
[17:32] <smallPACS> hello all
[17:33] <smallPACS> I am attempting to "upgrade" from a really old version of ubuntu and instead of doing all the incremental update stuff I have decided to do a fresh install
[17:33] <grnt> YokoBR: if you need 13.1 specifically then the best way is to build a package using AMD's installer.
[17:33] <bazhang> jaredforthewin, kazam
[17:33] <jaredforthewin> Good.
[17:33] <grnt> If thefanclub suggests this, then it's fine.
[17:33] <Guest35362> I need a sound device/HDMI wizard.
[17:33] <YokoBR> grnt, i've tryied for over an year.
[17:33] <SchrodingersScat> !ask | Guest35362
[17:34] <smallPACS> except I am wanting to burn an ISO image of my desired ubuntu distribution but not to a CD/DVD but a USB drive
[17:34] <SchrodingersScat> oh, that might not have been accurate
[17:34] <darklajid> What can I do if a package is missing files from upstream? Is contacting the maintainer bad form?
[17:34] <grnt> YokoBR: legacy driver is not compatible with recent Linux kernel versions and X.org versions. If you need it, then you have to use older kernel and older X.
[17:35] <grnt> Probably as far back as 10.04.
[17:35] <smallPACS> I've seen a variety of software that can do this but now someone has mentioned something using daemon tools to burn the ISO
[17:35] <YokoBR> grnt, as i said on my first message, i'm on ubuntu 12.04, xserver 1.11, kernel 3.2.5
[17:35] <igadget> Hi... Can anyone point me in the right direction on how to view the progress of fsck when it's been launched from palimpsest?
[17:35] <YokoBR> 3.2.0.5
[17:35] <smallPACS> just looking for a quick and dirty way to get the latest release on my system and replace the old distribution
[17:35] <ikonia> palimpsest ?
[17:36] <grnt> That definitely won't work. 3.2.0.5 is too recent for 13.1 catalyst.
[17:36] <ikonia> what's a palimpsest
[17:36] <paulus68_1> smallPACS: do you work with ubuntu only or also with windows
[17:36] <igadget> ikonia: a.k.a. Disk Utility
[17:36] <zamba> i have a strange problem with my ubuntu.. i have connected a minijack connector to my mic input..
[17:36] <YokoBR> omg, it's working right now. I'm using it right now.
[17:36] <zamba> i had sound for a while, but all of a sudden nothing..
[17:36] <ikonia> igadget: why would you not use fsck from the system, rather than a 3rd party one
[17:36] <zamba> i've tried everything, but i'm not able to get any input
[17:36] <YokoBR> the only problem is that i have a mouse lag on the desktop
[17:36] <zamba> i've checked the cable and there's audio there
[17:36] <grnt> YokoBR: that sounds very weird, but whatever.
[17:36] <smallPACS> paulus68_1: I am currently running a partitioned dual boot system with windows 7 and Ubuntu
[17:37] <zamba> any idea how to debug?
[17:37] <igadget> ikonia: well because Disk Utility has this nice little button called 'Check Filesystem', which I clicked
[17:37] <ubob_> Does anyone here have experience with SSH?
[17:38] <SchrodingersScat> !ask | ubob_
[17:38] <ikonia> igadget: so you'd rather click a button with no idea of it's status, than type "fsck"
[17:38] <ikonia> igadget: you'll need to talk to the people who make that app then, as it's nothing to do with ubuntu
[17:38] <paulus68_1> smallPACS: boot into your windows and use this link http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/create-a-usb-stick-on-windows
[17:38] <YokoBR> i'll try to disable acpi on grub
[17:38] <ubob_> A client asked me to delete domain servers from an SSH server. I have the server connect info, I connected through putty, but what now?
[17:38] <igadget> ikonia: well it's an integral part of ubuntu
[17:38] <ikonia> igadget: in what way ?
[17:38] <igadget> ikonia: it's installed by default
[17:38] <ikonia> igadget: is it ?
[17:38] <ikonia> !find palimpsest
[17:39] <ikonia> that shows as a them ?
[17:39] <ikonia>  not an app
[17:39] <igadget> ikonia: maybe I misspelled it, hang on
[17:39] <ikonia> igadget: https://help.gnome.org/users/palimpsest/ is that what you mean ?
[17:40] <igadget> ikonia: that's the one
[17:40] <ikonia> igadget: https://help.gnome.org/users/palimpsest/3.0/palimpsest.html thre is the docs for it
[17:40] <ikonia> (pretty poor)
[17:40] <Guest35362> SchrodingersScat: what ever..... I had planned to enjoy and  listen to music this night and i was really in the right mood for it. but some useless update from canonical har magically removed the HDMI output option in sound manager. So here I am without music staring at a screen with a hole lot of text that do not interest me. And I have been doin it for a long time without getting any closer a solution to my problem. I am grumpy and wan
[17:40] <Guest35362> t to keep the steem up. Sorry I am not a polite linux expert like you ;)
[17:41] <igadget> ikonia: so I noticed... but I guess it's more of a general *nix thing - palimpsest simply launches fsck in the background, and I figured there might be a general way to display the output of programs that are run into the background?
[17:41] <smallPACS> paulus68_1: Will pendrive affect any files I already have on the flash drive (i.e. do I need to partition the usb??)
[17:42] <paulus68_1> smallPACS: all files on the usb drive will be removed
[17:43] <smallPACS> paulus68_1: Further, once I create ISO, I assume I'm simply booting from USB and following
[17:43] <smallPACS> paulus68_1:the GUI's instruction to replace my current old distribution, correct?
[17:43] <tty2> anyone know why xfce4 isnt doing transparencies for me, and how i can fix that?
[17:43] <paulus68_1> smallPACS: this tool is taking care of it, and yes after you boot it will give you a live cd envirement where you can select the required options
[17:44] <paulus68_1> smallPACS: you have the option to remove everything and "format the drive" as it was a newborn baby :)
[17:44] <smallPACS> paulus68_1: sounds good. Thank you for your brain
[17:45] <paulus68_1> smallPACS: in fact you can only use USB or other external drive now since the iso is to big to burn on cd and to small for a dvd
[17:45] <Guest35362> SchrodingersScat: by the way. the ubottu you summon with your previous message take up way more space and flod the channel more than a man asking to ask. to ask to ask is polite and a way to sonder if someone has knowledge on a topic and maybe able to help
[17:46] <OerHeks> tty2, install the prop videodriver
[17:46] <smallPACS> paulus68_1: Too big?? Are the newer distributions getting that much larger??
[17:46] <tjbiddle> Anyone here maintain a private APT repository? I've been using reprepro for it - Is this considered the best tool?
[17:47] <smallPACS> paulus68_1: I thought an advantage to using Ubuntu was that it wasn't very memory intensive
[17:47] <paulus68_1> smallPACS: the current iso for 13.04 is about 785 mb tall on a normal cd it's only possible to get 700 mb
[17:47] <smallPACS> paulus68_1: Or is that just in comparison to Windows ;)
[17:47] <igadget> ikonia: never mind... I spent so much time now figuring out how to get it to display it's progress, that it's finished already... *sigh*
[17:48] <ubob_> How do I delete SSH domain servers?
[17:48] <paulus68_1> smallPACS: Ubuntu isn't a memory draining OS just the iso is bigger then a regular cdrom and therefore a usb stick is the solution to your problem
[17:48] <Prolac> hello, is it possible to rename proccesses?
[17:48] <smallPACS> paulus68_1: Gotcha
[17:49] <grnt> What in the world is "SSH domain server"
[17:49] <paulus68_1> smallPACS: I used this tutorial aswell and it works like a charm
[17:50] <ubob_> grnt, I have no idea. A person gave me a list of domain names, and asked me to remove them off the server SSH domain
[17:50] <ubob_> A domain such as http://ws10.ciwebgroup.com/
[17:50] <genii> ubob_: If you want to remove the ssh daemon, uninstall the package openssh-server
[17:50] <ubob_> No I don't want to do that
[17:51] <grnt> genii: obviously it's not what is needed
[17:51] <genii> ubob_: Maybe they mean that these machines have access by keys (not password) , and to remove the keys they have
[17:51] <grnt> ubob_: he probaby asked you to login via SSH and edit domain name records... probably on a DNS server running.
[17:52] <ubob_> genii, maybe. That makes sense, but how would I do that? I have over 400 domains I need to remove..
[17:52] <grnt> ubob_: keys should be stored under ~/.ssh
[17:53] <Pici> ubob_: I think you need more information from your 'client'
[17:53] <genii> ubob_: You should probably ask them for clarification
[17:53] <smallPACS> Every man is a damn fool for at least five minutes every day; wisdom consists in not exceeding the limit -Hubbard
[17:54] <YokoBR> guys, i've found that the mouse lag only happens on touchpad. With a usb mouse it's ok
[17:55] <grnt> What is needed for complete LaTeX environment? I set up editor, TexLive, evince as previewer. What else is needed? Some essential packages?
[17:56] <Pici> grnt: I was under the impression that texlive itself included everything you would need.
[17:56] <grnt> packages I mean TexLive packages, not apt.
[17:57] <grnt> Pici: I saw that people use something additional for bibliography. But didn't understand what it is and for what exactly.
[17:57] <Pici> grnt: You may want to ask in #latex - they'd know more than us. Its been ages since I've written any LaTeX
[17:58] <igadget> ohwell... thanks for your help guys 'n galls
[17:58]  * igadget off
[18:01] <jenny1986> http://Fun4Days.com/sms/sms.php?share=178616
[18:02] <OerHeks> no https jenny1986 ?
[18:02] <linuxearth> can one slowly-slowly help me out?
[18:03] <daftykins> linuxearth: ask...
[18:03] <daftykins> the que...
[18:03] <daftykins> stion.
[18:03] <linuxearth> i have right now opensuse 12.2 installed, i want to give ubuntu lts a try, i have burned the cd file, i am a new user, now how can i give it a try? means right with opensuse in its place, can i give it a try?
[18:04] <Calinou> linuxearth: boot on the CD/DVD
[18:04] <grnt> It's not going to install anything unless you explicitly tell it to.
[18:04] <OerHeks> linuxearth, sure, install it side-by-side or replace opensuse
[18:05] <linuxearth> ok but how do i installit side byt side?
[18:05] <linuxearth> no space
[18:05] <linuxearth> i have /home in that?
[18:05] <grnt> Grab any external USB HDD, install it on this HDD.
[18:05] <Ownix> How do I get my sdc5 and sda5 to mount on login? I always do sudo udisks --mount /dev/sda5/ /mnt/moviedisk. Can I just put this into a script and put it in init.d?
[18:06] <grnt> Ownix: man fstab
[18:06] <linuxearth> grnt: on external usb also it can be installed?
[18:06] <gordonjcp> Ownix: no
[18:06] <OerHeks> !fstab
[18:06] <grnt> linuxearth: yes.
[18:06] <linuxearth> but then how would i use that?
[18:06] <linuxearth> the usb can be inserted anywhere>?
[18:06] <linuxearth> and then directly i can use?
[18:07] <grnt> linuxearth: you would plug this USB drive with installed ubuntu, turn on your machine and before it boots anything manually select to boot from external USB HDD through BIOS.
[18:07] <OerHeks> linuxearth, no, you need to boot from it
[18:07] <linuxearth> grnt: oh i see, but how do i install in it?
[18:08] <linuxearth> OerHeks: why?
[18:08] <genii> linuxearth: Normally when you start the computer it looks in an order of things to boot from. If you have a CD/DVD, set that to be the first boot device in BIOS. If you have an USB stick or drive, set that to be the first device, etcetera.
[18:08] <linuxearth> okk
[18:08] <linuxearth> got genii but how do i install in usb? the ubuntu?
[18:08] <linuxearth> can you please give me the link?
[18:08] <linuxearth> or instrutctions?
[18:08] <linuxearth> whatever...
[18:09] <linuxearth> consider myslef a newbie
[18:09] <grnt> linuxearth: boot from burned install cd, attach external USB HDD, start installation from desktop shortcut, when installer asks you where to install, select your attached HDD. And be sure to install bootloader (There would be such option) to that attached HDD too.
[18:09] <genii> linuxearth: Do you want to copy the DVD install to the USB, or you want to boot from DVD and then install Ubuntu onto the USB? I am unclear on which you want.
[18:10] <linuxearth> genii: i want to use ubuntu, and i consider to use usb for it better as grnt suggested, means to install ubuntu on pen drive and then booting pc from it
[18:11] <linuxearth> means would give me the idea of ubuntu without changing the present configuration
[18:11] <Guest30342> Hello
[18:11] <linuxearth> and side by side i can compare opensuse and ubuntu
[18:11] <daftykins> hi
[18:11] <grnt> linuxearth: I suggested to install on external HDD, not a pendrive. Even though it is possible too, performance may suffer depending on a pendrive.
[18:11] <Guest30342> how r u m new here
[18:12] <linuxearth> external HDD? but if i have a pen drive of size 64 gb, it won't work as an external HDD?
[18:12] <daftykins> Guest30342: this channel is for support only, no chat
[18:12] <genii> linuxearth: So I would suggest to boot from the DVD, and install to the USB from there as if it was a regular hard drive.
[18:12] <linuxearth> external HDD? but if i have a pen drive of size 64 gb, it won't work as an external HDD?
[18:12] <daftykins> genii: you're completely misunderstanding the intention by the way.
[18:13] <linuxearth> and that USB can be a pen drive of size 64 GB?
[18:13] <genii> linuxearth: Pen drives/USB sticks are not really a good place to put a regular install because the operating system uses the drive a lot and wears it out quickly.
[18:13] <grnt> linuxearth: it will work, but I don't know how good it will be in terms of performance (file access/read/write speed). Probably 64 GB will be as good as HDD.
[18:13] <gaurav__> hii
[18:14] <linuxearth> grnt: oh i see
[18:14] <linuxearth> genii: oh i see
[18:15] <linuxearth> genii and grnt: to boot first from dvd and then to install it to the usb should be an easy task for a novice, though would i recognize the usb from the name, something like: /dev/sda... or anyother method would be there?
[18:15] <linuxearth> while during the process
[18:16] <grnt> linuxearth: use `sudo blkid` command in terminal to find out. All pendrives are usually labeled in an easy to recognize manner.
[18:16] <grnt> If not you would notice by it's size (64G) anyway, during installation.
[18:17] <fourq> anyone successfully install the Heroku toolbelt on 13.04?
[18:17] <fourq> https://toolbelt.heroku.com/
[18:17] <fourq> I'm having the same issue this guy wrote about: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2178554
[18:18] <genii> linuxearth: The names will still be the same, yes, like sda sdb and so on. You will probably be able to tell the USB because of it's size
[18:19] <genii> linuxearth: When it wants to put GRUB, you will want to tell it to put it on the USB and not your main hard drive
[18:21] <abstrusenick> i have ubuntu 13.04 and ufw won't start on boot
[18:21] <abstrusenick> any idea why?
[18:21] <abstrusenick> i have done ufw enable
[18:22] <Ownix> I am editing my fstab now and im wondering why there are so many spaces between the different sections
[18:22] <Ownix> Is one space enough?
[18:22] <reisio> Ownix: yes
[18:22] <reisio> Ownix: tab stops are handy, for making columns clear
[18:22] <reisio> but not required
[18:24] <reisio> daftykins: from here!
[18:24] <daftykins> indeed!
[18:25] <BluesKaj> abstrusenick, it should start by default afaik
[18:25] <abstrusenick> BluesKaj: in my case its always inactive after boot :(
[18:25] <abstrusenick> don't know how to trace whats wrong
[18:26] <abstrusenick> have to manually run ufw enable every boot now
[18:26] <BluesKaj> abstrusenick, try it in the terminal , see what the output is.
[18:26] <OerHeks> abstrusenick, when i enabled ufw in systemsettings , it asked me for my password.
[18:26] <abstrusenick> BluesKaj: I'm sshing into the machine
[18:26] <abstrusenick> what output?
[18:27] <malinus> hello. How do I encrypt my home, AFTER installing Ubuntu, where I choose "no".
[18:27] <Karol_> ubuntu is stupid
[18:27] <BluesKaj> if there are any errors or such
[18:27] <daftykins> malinus: painfully.
[18:27] <BluesKaj> abstrusenick,^
[18:27] <abstrusenick> i guess i will try to downgrade to 12.10
[18:28] <malinus> daftykins, but possible?
[18:28] <daftykins> dunno
[18:28] <grnt> malinus: why do you need to encrypt it?
[18:28] <repudiate> I have only 70 GB free on my HD on my laptop.
[18:29] <repudiate> Is this OK to install Ubuntu alongside Windows 7?
[18:29] <grnt> repudiate: yes.
[18:29] <OerHeks> repudiate, sure
[18:29] <repudiate> Would I have any issues?
[18:29] <malinus> grnt, because of the amount of child porn in my home directory
[18:29] <repudiate> Will it be comfortable?
[18:29] <grnt> repudiate: no, yes.
[18:29] <repudiate> wow..
[18:29] <repudiate> grnt: ?
[18:29] <repudiate> How big is Ubuntu?
[18:30] <malinus> grnt, but seriously - I can't see why not.
[18:30] <grnt> repudiate: issues = no, comfortable = yes.
[18:30] <repudiate> oh ok, great
[18:30] <repudiate> How big is Ubuntu?
[18:30] <Tylertwo> repudiate: About 3gb from a fresh install
[18:30] <repudiate> Nice
[18:30] <repudiate> Thanks guys.
[18:30] <repudiate> How would i install from dvd
[18:30] <repudiate> DL and put it on a DVD?
[18:31] <repudiate> Where do i dl from reliably/
[18:31] <grnt> http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/install-desktop-latest
[18:31] <reisio> repudiate: whereabouts are you geographically?
[18:32] <repudiate> grnt: Thanks
[18:32] <odium> Lighttpd doesn't seem to have ssl compiled into it, is there some trick to getting that, or should I compile it from source?
[18:32] <repudiate> grnt: Where do I get the DVD?!
[18:32] <grnt> odium: lighttpd is not maintained anymore, use NGINX. It's trivial to compile it from source with SSL.
[18:33] <repudiate> oh got it
[18:33] <reisio> repudiate: waste of time, get an ordinary image
[18:33] <odium> grnt, but I use the h264_mod for streaming movies.
[18:34] <grnt> odium: http://h264.code-shop.com/trac/wiki/Mod-H264-Streaming-Nginx-Version2
[18:34] <odium> oh.. cool.
[18:34] <odium> thanks.
[18:36] <repudiate> Ok, decided to get it on a VM
[18:36] <repudiate> How do I do this?
[18:36] <ElixirVitae> Hi!
[18:36] <ElixirVitae> So, lubuntu 12.04 is not LTS.
[18:37] <ElixirVitae> What if I were to netinstall ubuntu and get lubuntu-desktop package?
[18:37] <ElixirVitae> Wouldn't that be practically same with lubuntu for the most part?
[18:37] <ElixirVitae> With lts, no less.
[18:37] <grnt> repudiate: downloadable ubuntu ISO is here: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop
[18:38] <grnt> Get it and install/put it anywhere you can/want.
[18:38] <ElixirVitae> So amny FloodBots~
[18:38] <repudiate> grnt: Even for a VM install, right?
[18:38] <daftykins> ElixirVitae: i would wager the point being made is that the lxde part is not getting supported, grafting it onto 12.04 wouldn't change that
[18:38] <repudiate> Doesn't change anything?
[18:38] <grnt> No.
[18:38] <grnt> No = doesn't change.
[18:38] <darklajid> I'm missing a package in debian/ubuntu (some files from upstream are not part of any package for dovecot). Any tutorial for rolling my own package?
[18:39] <appkins> Has anyone had any luck getting unity 3d hardware-rendered in virtualbox and ubuntu 13.04?
[18:39] <ElixirVitae> So, daftykin, what about getting "some" lxde parts from PPA or any other alternative means?
[18:39] <grnt> If you need it in VM, decide on what virtualization software you need first. VirtualBox or VmWare Player (Windows).
[18:39] <daftykins> ElixirVitae: also unsupported! :)
[18:39] <ElixirVitae> Well, I need support for the OS itself, not the programs I add into it.
[18:40] <ElixirVitae> Like kernel and other shenanigans.
[18:40] <appkins> Has anyone had any luck getting unity 3d hardware-rendered in virtualbox and ubuntu 13.04?
[18:40] <daftykins> ElixirVitae: ah, give it a whirl then
[18:40] <tty2> OerHeks: ohyou mean proprietary? it is already installed
[18:40] <daftykins> appkins: don't repeat yourself. we're not ignoring you!
[18:40] <ElixirVitae> So, it will be same.
[18:40] <reisio> appkins: I don't recall, did for Windows once, IIRC
[18:41] <ElixirVitae> And, while I am at it, why no LTS love for lubuntu?
[18:41] <sharpy35> hey ubuntu geeks. how can i prevent flashplayer from being updated? i found this command which works for firefox -  echo "firefox hold" | sudo dpkg --set-selections how can i use this for flashplayer? just replace firefox with flashplayer?
[18:41] <appkins> I've installed the vbox guest additions
[18:41] <appkins> 3d support is enabled
[18:41] <daftykins> appkins: keep it on one line please.
[18:41] <reisio> sharpy35: apt pinning, maybe?
[18:42] <sharpy35> what do you mean with apt pinning?
[18:42] <sharpy35> i mean i know apt
[18:42] <cotton> anyone mirroring repos?  how large is the source compared to without..?  I'm mirroring just main and universe.
[18:42] <sharpy35> but dunno what you with pinning mean
[18:42] <cotton> and that was 50GB
[18:42] <cotton> without sources...
[18:42] <BluesKaj> sharpy35, Firefox and flashplayer are dependent on each other
[18:43] <sharpy35> the reason why is, i am sick of edit the libflashplayer.so so that the fullscreen remain open while i am "working" on my other desktop
[18:43] <Aquaword> hi
[18:43] <ElixirVitae> Also, I learned about Flash not being supported other then security fixes.
[18:43] <sharpy35> i know bluesKaj
[18:43] <reisio> hi Aquaword
[18:43] <ElixirVitae> Do I really need to get pepper for my chromium?
[18:43] <appkins> I've done everything at the following link with no luck whatsoever. http://blog.guy.ht/2013/01/Ubuntu-12.10-(Unity)-runs-slow-in-VirtualBox/
[18:44] <reisio> ElixirVitae: nope
[18:44] <ElixirVitae> Or, is 12 something is fine for the most flash content?
[18:44] <Aquaword> maybe its ubuntu related, my google chrome toolbar text are shortened like ja.. for javascript , any idea why?
[18:44] <BluesKaj> onsha then what do you mean
[18:44] <reisio> ElixirVitae: AFAIK all significant Flash development has ceased
[18:44] <jophish_> yo yo yo
[18:44] <Aquaword> anyone has the same?
[18:44] <jophish_> My volume keeps changing on its own
[18:44] <jophish_> It's very very annoying
[18:45] <jophish_> I don't know where to begin sorting this out
[18:45] <reisio> jophish_: start alsamixer in a terminal, stop it
[18:45] <BluesKaj> sharpy35, then what o you mean
[18:45] <darklajid> Is https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/1235401 enough to ask for a package? Anything missing?
[18:46] <appkins> I'm at a loss I guess...:-(
[18:46] <jophish_> reisio, It was happening in alsamixer
[18:46] <jophish_> and is still happening
[18:46] <sharpy35> ah everythings alright i fixed it
[18:46] <sharpy35> thanks :)
[18:46] <jophish_> the bars in alsamixer were moving and all
[18:47] <jophish_> My system could be getting spurious messages from somewhere
[18:47] <jophish_> Is there a way to see all keypresses?
[18:47] <daftykins> appkins: maybe find a vbox channel
[18:47] <repudiate> grnt: VirtualBox is for Windows, right.
[18:47] <hid> hi
[18:48] <repudiate> grnt: Can I just choose the iso file when installing or?
[18:48] <reisio> jophish_: you have keyboard buttons for volume?
[18:48] <reisio> repudiate: it's cross platform
[18:48] <jophish_> reisio, yes
[18:48] <reisio> repudiate: yes you can, in the 'storage' prefs
[18:48] <hid> what happens if i don't install a gdm software after installing gnome? (ubuntu minimal)
[18:48] <jophish_> up down and mute
[18:49] <hid> will i have a black screen or?
[18:49] <code_root> hayy ....
[18:50] <Ownix> shit.... my server wont come back up now after editing fstab
[18:50] <Rory> hid: What package are you installing to get gnome?
[18:50] <Ownix> I didnt touch the partition with the root filesystem on it
[18:50] <Rory> Ownix: Do you have physical access to it?
[18:50] <Rory> Ownix: Filesystems are mounted before ssh is started
[18:50] <Ownix> not for another half hour
[18:51] <Rory> Ownix: Can you ping it?
[18:51] <jophish_> reisio, thre are no messages with xev
[18:51] <Ownix> How do I fix this when I get physical access?
[18:51] <Ownix> no ping
[18:51] <code_root> cek
[18:51] <Rory> Ownix: You would look at what's on the screen, and take action accordingly
[18:51] <reisio> jophish_: didn't say anything about xev
[18:51] <CrazyZurfer> reisio: Hi, do you remember the name of the guy that was helping me yesterday to install ubuntu?
[18:51] <jophish_> reisio, I tried that just in case
[18:52] <Rory> CrazyZurfer: Paulus68_1
[18:52] <Ownix> Rory: well thats no good if my system wont even come up
[18:52] <dreamon> Since 3hours I'm trying to play youtube videos on Firefox/Chrome/.. but no chance. Tried 13.04, 12.04. Radeon and nvidia graphiccard. no chance
[18:52] <Rory> Ownix: How do you know if you aren't in front of it? All you know from where you are now, is that networking is down on it
[18:52] <CrazyZurfer> Rory: thanks, lol
[18:52] <reisio> CrazyZurfer: nope, but almost anyone in here can
[18:52] <Rory> dreamon: What happens when you try?
[18:52] <repudiate> grnt: Can I just choose the iso file when installing or?
[18:52] <bezaban> Ownix: what rory said and possibly boot single user/recovery mode/live dist from cd/usb to correct fstab
[18:52] <Ownix> god damn it
[18:53] <bezaban> also network
[18:53] <bezaban> boot
[18:53] <bezaban> guess you ownixed yourself (sorry)
[18:53] <Rory> heh
[18:53] <Ownix> all I did was add two entries to the fstab and they both have <pass> == 2 so they are bottom priority
[18:53] <reisio> repudiate: yes you can, in the 'storage' prefs
[18:53] <repudiate> grnt: Can I just choose the iso file when installing or?
[18:53] <Rory> repudiate: Are you asking how to install Ubuntu in a virtualbox in Windows? Yes you assign the iso to the virtual CD drive: ask in #vbox for more information on this
[18:54] <repudiate> Rory: Yes
[18:54] <bezaban> Ownix: possibly it is running file system checks if a max mount count was met, how long ago did you boot?
[18:54] <repudiate> Rory: Thanks
[18:54] <dreamon> Rory, Its only white and after 20-30sec. It changes to black but no buttons .. nothing. chrome means "shockwave flash couldnt be loaded. but already installed "adobe-flashplugin"
[18:54] <Ownix> boot time generally takes like 20 seconds. Its been 4 or 5 minutes n
[18:54] <Rory> dreamon: Let's try Firefox first. Can you please run: "sudo apt-get install flashplugin-installer" from the terminal?
[18:55] <bezaban> Ownix: on every 30th (?) or so boot (mount really) it will check filesystems, this can take a while if you have big ones
[18:55] <Rory> Ownix: Also it will check filesystems if the system wasn't shut down cleanly
[18:56] <bezaban> if serious errors are encountered it could have halted on that, and again what rory said too :)
[18:56] <dreamon> Rory, Ok. It installed some stuff.
[18:56] <Rory> dreamon: OK, now restart Firefox and try again
[18:57] <dreamon> Rory, same problem.. nothin changed
[18:57] <Rory> dreamon: Can you please go to the page "about:plugins" in Firefox
[18:58] <brontosaurusrex> any kdenlive users? I can only have 1 timeline per project, true/false?
[18:58] <Rory> dreamon: Is there an entry for Shockwave Flash (File: libflashplayer.so) ?
[18:58] <vusie> does anyone knw how i can change sound  presets or define my own globally(not only for the media player) ?
[18:58] <Rory> vusie: Could you re-phrase that? What do you mean by sound presets?
[18:59] <dreamon> Rory, Yes it ist. Status aktiv.  Version 11,2,202,310
[18:59] <Rory> dreamon: Does Flash work on other sites, or is it only Youtube? See here to test: http://helpx.adobe.com/flash-player/kb/find-version-flash-player.html
[19:00] <brontosaurusrex> any kdenlive users? I can only have 1 timeline per project, true/false?
[19:00] <BluesKaj> dreamon, did you install ubuntu-restricted-extras yet ?
[19:00] <abradley> I JUST created sda3. Why is CLI telling me "/dev/sda3: No such file or directory"? http://paste.ubuntu.com/6193517/
[19:01] <Rory> BluesKaj: ubuntu-restricted-extras depends on flashplugin-installer and I had him install that
[19:01] <BluesKaj> !repeat > brontosaurusrex
[19:01] <dreamon> BluesKaj, not till now
[19:01] <vusie> Rory: equalizer
[19:01] <ikonia> abradley: it wanted be created until udev creates it, normally caused by re-probing the disk
[19:01] <Rory> abradley: What are you trying to achieve? How did you "create" /dev/sda3 ?
[19:01] <ikonia> abradley: I suspect /dev/sda was in use so can't be re-probed
[19:01] <abradley> fdisk
[19:01] <vusie> dreamon:try this... via synaptic install adobe flash player browser plugin...search for it
[19:01] <Rory> abradley: My apologies, it wasn't as stupid a question as it first looked
[19:01] <dreamon> Rory, No I cant see something. On other PC I can see the ball runnig.. but this one ignores the ball
[19:01] <BluesKaj> Rory, it's the other way around but it also installs java etc
[19:01] <Gerowen> Just out of curiosity, I've never customized my Unity desktop.  I remember in older releases, Gnome had a built in "Theme" app that would let you install themes you downloaded from gnome-look.org and other like places.  What is the equivalent in Unity that I can use to install GTK/Icon themes?
[19:01] <abradley> well, I'm not above stupid questions
[19:02] <Rory> dreamon: OK. Had you tried to install the Flash plugin any other way, apart from "sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree" ?
[19:03] <dreamon> Rory, No. I Tried to install, but counldnt be found.. I didnt used any kind of PPA at all.
[19:05] <Rory> dreamon: What version of Ubuntu are you using?
[19:05] <BluesKaj> dreamon, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats
[19:05] <dreamon> Rory, 12.04.3 LTS
[19:06] <Rory> dreamon: I recommend you install the package "ubuntu-restricted-extras"
[19:07] <dreamon> Rory, BluesKaj.. I doing it. Last time I tried it with 13.04, without luck.
[19:07] <dreamon> I worked on it for 3 hours.
[19:08] <BluesKaj> drea do you mean it wouldn't install or that flash failed after installing the restricted extras ?
[19:08] <BluesKaj> dreamon,^
[19:09] <dreamon> BluesKaj, Installing is not the problem. It still played nothin ..
[19:09] <v2ikemyy> hey, does anybody know a reason for that: created a file with a size 1 byte. why after removing the file i have 4 bytes more free space than before removing it. Why is it 4 instead of 1 byte?
[19:10] <tozen> v2ikemyy: such a problem, lol
[19:11] <v2ikemyy> need to explain it in school
[19:11] <OerHeks> v2ikemyy, metadata, filename, permission
[19:11] <v2ikemyy> thanks!
[19:13] <jackarg> Hello. My younger brother is looking for a one week internship. (In france in 9th grade you have to do one as part of the school system) Not sure if it would be possible, but where should I address myself to? Send a letter to canonicall? Thanks
[19:13] <jhutchins> jackarg: I would start with "contact us" or some similar tag on the web page.
[19:14] <reisio> jackarg: foreign internship, or in france?
[19:14] <Max-Powerz> jackarg get him to watch the episode where bart goes to franch for a exchange program
[19:14] <BluesKaj> dreamon, open /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins ,is  there a  flahplayer.so file ?
[19:14] <Max-Powerz> best place to start
[19:14] <jhutchins> jackarg: While this is an "official" channel, in reality it's just a bunch of fellow users waiting for someone who can answer their question.
[19:14] <snollux> Hello! I made a user account a while ago on my Ubuntu machine, and when I was creating the account it asked for things like address, email, etc. How do I change the associated email address? I just ask because it's autogenerated by certain scripts/utilities and I'd like it to be the new one
[19:14] <dreamon> Installed the "extras".. same Problem
[19:14] <BluesKaj> err flashplayer.so , dreamon
[19:14] <jackarg> jhutchins yea, but i'm sure they have a ton of email already I mean idk
[19:15] <jackarg> reisio in london in their headquarters
[19:15] <dreamon> BluesKaj, No.. only flashplugin-alternative.so
[19:16] <BluesKaj> dreamon, yeah that's fine , that's the latest
[19:16] <dreamon> BluesKaj, This is a complete new installation.
[19:17] <BluesKaj> which version , dreamon ?
[19:17] <jhutchins> jackarg: You don't ask, you don't get.
[19:17] <jackarg> jhutchins, i'm gonna call and try to figure it out
[19:17] <jhutchins> jackarg: I would imagine that it would require at least a written request, but email or other online contacts might get you the right address.
[19:17] <Rory> snollux: That's not actually a user account it's an online account for Canonical's cloud service https://one.ubuntu.com
[19:17] <dreamon> BluesKaj, Its Ubuntu 12.04.3
[19:17] <grnt> Recommend me a NVIDIA GPU.
[19:18] <Rory> grnt: #ubuntu-offtopic will
[19:18] <jhutchins> jackarg: You'll want to get him a good CV and some references.
[19:18] <grnt> Rory: alright.
[19:18] <snollux> Rory: so where the heck is dch (the Debian Changelog program that is used when making .deb files) getting an e-mail address?
[19:18] <snollux> :\
[19:18] <Ari-Yang> !offtopic | grnt
[19:18] <Ari-Yang> grnt, I recommend you also ask in #hardware
[19:19] <grnt> Ari-Yang: thanks.
[19:19] <Ari-Yang> np~
[19:19] <jhutchins> grnt: also Tom's Hardware, Anandtech, and Ars Technica.
[19:19] <BluesKaj> dreamon, one method that used to work in 12.04 was to download the adobe flashplayer , extract it , then copy the libflashplayer.so file to /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins
[19:19] <Pici> grnt: try ##hardware
[19:20] <grnt> Already there.
[19:20] <dreamon> BluesKaj, Ok, where can I download?
[19:20] <BluesKaj> but a reboot was usually needed to make it work , dreamon
[19:20] <jackarg> jhutchins, do you think there is already demand for this type of thing? Also I just called and they're closed for the weekend so I'll call monday
[19:21] <tozen> hi all! folks need an advice in first expirience with squid. so what i've done: sudo apt-get install squid3; sudo touch /etc/squid3/block.acl; # echo 'odnoklassniki.ru' >> /etc/squid3/block.acl; # nano /etc/squid3/squid.conf after i've added string <acl block dstdomain "/etc/squid3/block.acl"> in TAG: acl section and <http_access deny block > in http_access section aswell. then # /etc/init.d/squid3 restart  but access still available. so what's wr
[19:21] <Star-Flower> zsnes is listed in the ubuntu software center, but when I click to install it it says not found
[19:21] <Star-Flower> in current software sources
[19:22] <Rory> Star-Flower: try running "sudo apt-get update" from a terminal
[19:22] <Pici> Star-Flower: I believe  its only available for certain architectures
[19:22] <BluesKaj> dreamon, http://get.adobe.com/flashplayer/ , choose the tar.gz for linux
[19:22] <reisio> ...
[19:22] <reisio> highly unlikely you should bother doing _that_
[19:23] <abradley> I just created a new partition /dev/sda4 in fdisk, accepting all defaults except the partition number. Why is the partition so small, shouldn't it, by default, use all the avaialbe space? http://paste.ubuntu.com/6193609/
[19:24] <Rory> abradley: There was a small amount of free space it went into
[19:24] <Rory> abradley: Possibly "in between" two other partitions
[19:24] <abradley> how can I create it so that it uses that free 34.4GB
[19:24] <abradley> ?
[19:26] <reisio> abradley: use cfdisk
[19:26] <reisio> or cgdisk
[19:26] <abradley> I'll try those, I'm unfamiliar
[19:26] <Patrice>  hi, i downloaded the last ubuntu server version but when i burn the ISO, the CD is not bootable, why?
[19:27] <jhutchins> abradley: Which one did you create?
[19:27] <reisio> Patrice: any number of reasons, can you not use a usb?
[19:27] <abradley> 4
[19:27] <Patrice> yes, i use my usb for something else, i can't
[19:27] <Patrice> resio
[19:27] <jhutchins> abradley: There are programs that can move or resize partitions, but you should have a full backup if you're going to try that.  They're slow, and if you already have the backup it's easier to just repartition the disk from scratch and restore.
[19:28] <abradley> sandbox vm
[19:28] <Rory> Does /etc/fstab expect a trailing newline?
[19:28] <Patrice> how to make the ISO of ubuntu server bootable, please?
[19:28] <jhutchins> abradley: Yeah, that ended up between 1&2.  fdisk will always pick the first available sector.  In this case, you probably wanted it to pick the first sectore AFTER partition two.
[19:28] <Rory> Patrice: Burn it to a DVD, put the DVD in the drive, boot from the DVD
[19:29] <Rory> !install | Patrice
[19:29] <amblet> burn it as image, set in bios: boot fron CD
[19:29] <Patrice> I did all that. Bios is ok to boot on CD
[19:29] <dreamon> BluesKaj, It isnt easy to download. It wats a programm to open.. I'm working on it
[19:29] <jhutchins> Patrice: Not booting?
[19:30] <Patrice> No, i burn the ISO of ubuntu server on a CD, but the CD is not bootable
[19:30] <Rory> Patrice: How many files are on the CD?
[19:31] <BluesKaj> dreamon, in FF choose save
[19:31] <amblet> hm, well.. bootable ISO, ya? hmmm.
[19:31] <Rory> Patrice: Are you getting an error message when you try to boot from the CD?
[19:31] <dreamon> BluesKaj, I cant. It pops up, which app to start with
[19:31] <Patrice> yes, it tells me "no bootable CD has been found" or something like that
[19:32] <Rory> Patrice: How many files are on the CD?
[19:32] <Rory> Patrice: One, or lots?
[19:32] <jhutchins> Patrice: make sure the md5sum of the iso matches the one listed on the server; then verify that the burn was correct with your burner program or take the md5sum of the CD device and that should match the iso & web site.
[19:32] <Patrice> all the content of the ISO image. I don't know.. I downloaded the ISO from ubuntu's site
[19:32] <Rory> !md5sum | Patrice
[19:33] <jhutchins> Patrice: He's checking to see if you actually burned the iso filesystem to disk or just saved the iso file, which is different.
[19:33] <BluesKaj> dreamon, choose Save File , it will then download to your /Home/User/Downloads file
[19:34] <Patrice> woaw... So complicated???
[19:35] <diverdude> how can i see which apache version is installed ?
[19:35] <Rory> diverdude: apache2 -v
[19:35] <reisio> dpkg -l | grep -i apache ?
[19:35] <BluesKaj> Patrice, just burn the iso file to a dvd or usb
[19:36] <dreamon> BluesKaj, there is only-> choose application to start. (search for app) Button -  Noting to save.
[19:36] <Patrice> I don't understand why i have to do that check MD5... There is no easier way to download and burn linux server?
[19:36] <reisio> Patrice: you don't have to, but you're having problems
[19:36] <Rory> Patrice: Just trying to make sure you have a correct disk image
[19:36] <reisio> Patrice: so what you do is rule out potential causes
[19:36] <BluesKaj> dreamon, which browser /
[19:36] <BluesKaj> ?
[19:36] <dreamon> Firefox, chrome, chromium.. ;)
[19:36] <Rory> Patrice: The "easy way" is to follow the official instructions https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation
[19:37] <Prolac> is it possible to rename proccesses?
[19:37] <Rory> Prolac: Could you re-phrase that? What are you wanting to achieve?
[19:37] <Rory> Patrice: Specifically here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BurningIsoHowto
[19:38] <BluesKaj> dreamon, are you clicking on the downloads button the adobe flash website or ?
[19:38] <Patrice> thanks, i'm reading
[19:38] <dreamon> BluesKaj, Yes.. the yellow one
[19:38] <odium> I found that I need this package https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/lucid/+source/powernowd/1.00-1ubuntu5 but I can't seem to install it conventionally, why is this?
[19:38] <BluesKaj> dreamon, did you choose the linux,tar.gz version first ?
[19:39] <Rory> odium: What Ubuntu version are you using?
[19:39] <dreamon> BluesKaj, Yes
[19:39] <Prolac> Rory, I'd like to prevent pkill cmd from disabling certain process
[19:39] <odium> Rory, saucy salamander
[19:39] <Rory> !13.10 | odium
[19:39] <odium> uhh, 13.10
[19:40] <Rory> odium: Join there and I'll try to help you
[19:40] <havv> I have a five year old laptop with 2GB RAM, will it run ubuntu 13.04 smoothly? I'm currently using lubuntu and I'm considering to switch
[19:40] <Rory> havv: Probably not as smoothly as Lubuntu. Have you considered Xubuntu as a "compromise" ?
[19:41] <Armadillos> !13.04
[19:41] <reisio> havv: yes it'll be fine, particularly if it has a dedicated gpu
[19:41] <reisio> but probably regardless
[19:41] <havv> it's integrated :\
[19:42] <TJ-> havv: It will depend on the CPU and GPU capabilities if you're talking about ubuntu-desktop. 2GB is usable so long as you don't overload it with large applications or data all running at once
[19:42] <BluesKaj> dreamon, and you don't get a dialog like this http://wstaw.org/m/2013/10/04/snapshot2.png ?
[19:42] <reisio> usable? 2gb is plenty
[19:42] <Prolac> Rory, no ideas?
[19:42] <thnee> the volume control is maxed at 10% to 100% which basically makes it an on/off switch. how can I debug this?
[19:42] <mavarazo> Hello, i need some help :). I just installed Ubuntu Server 12.04 but instead of getting to the grub2 menu, it drops me to the bios
[19:43] <reisio> mavarazo: what do you see?
[19:43] <havv> I'm mostly using it for developing in RoR, but I might need to run eclipse every once in a while
[19:43] <mavarazo> UEFI BIOS
[19:43] <reisio> mavarazo: I doubt you see that...
[19:43] <dreamon> BluesKaj, No its different.
[19:45] <jhutchins> !uefi
[19:45] <raub> mavarazo: do you mean it dropped you in grub?
[19:46] <mavarazo> no... it drops me into bios
[19:46] <jhutchins> Patrice: An incomplete or corrupt image is the most common reason for something not to boot these days.
[19:46] <dreamon> I try to start xarchiver .. so it might be possible to extract
[19:46] <TJ-> mavarazo: The EFI firmware command-line?
[19:46] <mavarazo> i think i can open that
[19:47] <jhutchins> mavarazo: Is it using Secure Boot?
[19:47] <mavarazo> yeah... but i cant disable it
[19:47] <BluesKaj> dreamon, ok , look for the flashplayer.so file in your file manager , it's probly in downloads
[19:48] <Rory> Is there a way to get the "find" command to escape spaces to I can pipe it into xargs or use it in a loop, without sed trickery?
[19:48] <TJ-> mavarazo: I don't think 12.04 had support in GRUB or kernel for secure-boot. You'd need the latest development release for that, 13.10
[19:48] <mavarazo> uhhh... now i get the grub minimal-bash
[19:49] <c3f59> Rory: Backslashes File\ Name.ext
[19:49] <Rory> c3f59: Thanks I know, but I want find to do that automatically
[19:49] <TJ-> mavarazo: Do you mean the initial RAM-disk's busybox shell?
[19:49] <Patrice> Thanks jhutchins. So i have to check MD5 on the ISO AND on the DVD? Or just on ISO is enought?
[19:49] <c3f59> Rory: ah, sorry, didn't read the whole discussion
[19:50] <Rory> c3f59: For example if the output of "find" is currently "this is a file" I'd prefer it to be "this\ is\ a\ file"
[19:50] <Rory> Patrice: Just the iso is sufficient
[19:50] <c3f59> Rory: okay…. let me think
[19:50] <Patrice> thanks
[19:50] <mavarazo> don't know... is labeld als minimal bash-like line editing
[19:51] <Rory> c3f59: I can *do* it, it's just messy. I was wondering if there was a simple way
[19:51] <dreamon> BluesKaj, No, I cant download. Its hopeless .. every time on differnet ubtunu maschines it tries to start a app after downloading. (most time softwarecenter) if I choose xarchiver it pops an Error
[19:52] <c3f59> Rory: Try piping the output through sed. something like sed -e 's/ /\\/g'
[19:53] <dreamon> BluesKaj, I found a way
[19:54] <Ownix> I edited fstab, now my server wont boot and I get this error: http://imgur.com/NwIGcNp also I booted to a live CD, mounted the disk and opened up fstab and all the stuff that was in there before is now gone
[19:55] <dreamon> BluesKaj, Ok, I copied file.. and now?
[19:56] <dreamon> BluesKaj, Its now in /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins
[19:57] <CQ> is there any way I can figure out if can use FB-DDR2s on my MoBo or not? I don't think it can use ECC ... MoBo is http://www.msi.com/product/mb/G45M.html#/?div=Basic
[19:57] <CQ> or does FB mean ECC automatically?
[19:57] <BluesKaj> dreamon .in the terminal type wget , then paste the url and enter
[19:57] <Ownix> Okay I am now able to access my fstab from my live CD. How do I interpret these errors?? http://imgur.com/NwIGcNp
[19:58] <dreamon> BluesKaj, The way, was to choose download for different OS.. so I could download the thing..
[19:58] <BluesKaj> dreamon, on the whole tar.gz file , just the libflashplayer.so file
[19:58] <BluesKaj> not
[19:59] <dreamon> BluesKaj, Yes.. only the libflashplayer.so I copied as root to /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins
[20:00] <Stinky-Feet> Rory: Is this what you are are after? http://notfaq.wordpress.com/2006/07/30/unix-filenames-with-spaces-in-find-xargs/
[20:00] <dreamon> BluesKaj, Now reboot?
[20:00] <BluesKaj> dreamon, ok , now will probly need to reboot
[20:02] <kriskropd> does anyone here know how to force elinks to download a file to local disk regardless of file type? something like a "save link as" ?
[20:03] <zykotick9> kriskropd: "d" perhaps
[20:03] <Rory> Stinky-Feet: -print0 I KNEW there was a quick way!
[20:03] <reisio> wget
[20:03] <Rory> Thanks also c3f59 that's exactly what I was doing before
[20:03] <kriskropd> zykotick9: nope :/
[20:03] <Ponch0> I think I finally figured out my WIFI issues on Ubuntu!,  how do I read up about "txpower" the options available with it and to make changes permanent?
[20:04] <kriskropd> zykotick9: D brings upt he manager though
[20:04] <dreamon> BluesKaj, This fucking thing drives me crazy. Dont work at all. no animation. ath helpx.adobe.com/lash-player/kb/find-version-flash-player.html
[20:04] <zykotick9> kriskropd: lowcase "d" is download link current link?
[20:04] <IdleOne> dreamon: No swearing please
[20:05] <BluesKaj> dreamon, if you downloaded a yum or rpm file it won't work on ubuntu
[20:05] <Ponch0> No swearing?! that's closed source english than!
[20:05] <kriskropd> zykotick9: i thought it was too! then over the past few days I noticed elinks started to not recognize files I used to download frequently either :/ its like there was a config change, but I haven't modified or updated anything related to elinks directly :(
[20:05] <Ponch0> It goes against the philosophy
[20:06] <dreamon> BluesKaj, No I only downloadet the tar.gz an extracted.. copied..
[20:06] <zykotick9> kriskropd: it works here, d -> Save to file
[20:06] <hid> hi has anybody have a black screen while installing ubuntu from minimal?
[20:06] <hid> black screen within virtualbox
[20:06] <zykotick9> kriskropd: perhaps try without your current .elinks folder?  perhaps you have changed something?
[20:07] <BluesKaj> dreamon, install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[20:07] <dreamon> BluesKaj, But the file isnt in that directory.. I copy once more
[20:07] <BluesKaj> bo just do it, you need some dependencies etc , dreamon
[20:08] <cson> dreamon: I had the same problem and BluesKaj is right, install the extras packages.
[20:08] <Patrice> ok so the checksum MD5 was ok...
[20:08] <BluesKaj> I thougfht he already had
[20:08] <dreamon> cson, BluesKaj -> says "its already the newest version"
[20:08] <Patrice> i did what they say and i compared : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuHashes
[20:09] <Patrice> All is the same but the CD still not bootable...
[20:09] <cson> If I remember correctly, I was even prompted to install the adobe plugin during the extras install.
[20:09] <reisio> Patrice: does it show the files in your file manager? Or the .iso?
[20:09] <Patrice> wait, let me check
[20:09] <BluesKaj> dreamon, then reinstall it
[20:09] <wilee-nilee> hid, You might ask in #vbox
[20:09] <kriskropd> zykotick9: weird, removing elinks.conf didnt fix it, but removing the whole .elinks folder did work - thanks for th eusggestion
[20:10] <kriskropd> zykotick9: suggestion*
[20:10] <c3f59> Rory:  piping through sed -e 's/ /\\ /g' should work
[20:10] <hid> wilee-nilee: the problem solved itself XD, thank you
[20:10] <reisio> find + print is betta
[20:10] <zykotick9> kriskropd: glad you got it working
[20:11] <Patrice> it shows me the content of the ISO
[20:12] <mtondi> ++
[20:12] <vusie> mtondi: vha khou itani phanda ha vhathu?
[20:12] <domingo> hi
[20:12] <reisio> hi
[20:12] <domingo> what is the spanish channel ?
[20:12] <reisio> -es
[20:12] <zykotick9> !es | domingo
[20:13] <reisio> Patrice: this is from the mounted, burnt CD?
[20:13] <Patrice> from the burnt one
[20:13] <domingo> thank
[20:13] <reisio> Patrice: does it say the path at the top?
[20:13] <domingo> join #ubuntu-es
[20:13] <mtondi> vusie: ndi noob hafha
[20:13] <Patrice> Yes : "/media/Ubuntu-Server 12.04.3 LTS i386"
[20:13] <kincho> how can I record all I hear in the speakers, included mic and youtube
[20:13] <vusie> mtondi: rido kickiwa...ari fhumule
[20:14] <reisio> kincho: jack
[20:14] <zykotick9> kincho: actually, it's possible with pulse as well (and a LOT easier then messing with jack)
[20:14] <kincho> zykotick9: reisio is pulse a program?
[20:15] <reisio> kincho: separate
[20:15] <Patrice> reisio the path is /media/Ubuntu-Server 12.04.3 LTS i386
[20:15] <zykotick9> reisio: is jack not a sound server?  like pulse?
[20:15] <reisio> Patrice: okay
[20:15] <reisio> Patrice: check your BIOS boot order
[20:15] <Patrice> all is ok
[20:16] <reisio> zykotick9: sure
[20:16] <kincho> zykotick9: so can you help me to do this?
[20:16] <Patrice> it's trying to boot on CD but it says "no bootable CD found"
[20:16] <kincho> reisio: what is jack? a program?
[20:16] <reisio> Patrice: sometimes the order isn't enough, you have to disable the other devices
[20:16] <jack---> kincho, pulseaudio is a complete sound system
[20:16] <reisio> kincho: yup
[20:16] <zykotick9> kincho: not really, i did it years ago - i don't use pulse anymore though... but i've NEVER gotten jack working at all.
[20:16] <reisio> a complete sound system that relies on alsa :p
[20:16] <jack---> pretty different from jack
[20:16] <Patrice> i did, i i also chose the CD device on the Toshiba boot page
[20:17] <kincho> zykotick9: so how do I make it work with pulse?
[20:17] <Patrice> Bios and Toshiba boot splash are on CD
[20:18] <BluesKaj> zykotick9, what do you use for audio on web sites?
[20:18] <zykotick9> kincho: i'd search online if i where you.  perhaps "recording from pulse audio" as a search or something?  you need to install some non-default pulse config stuff, then manually select to record from the output.  but i don't remember the exact details, sorry (it was a number of years ago i use to do it)
[20:18] <zykotick9> BluesKaj: pure alsa?
[20:19] <BluesKaj> zykotick9, I can't get alsa to work on web audio without pulseaudio
[20:19] <zykotick9> BluesKaj: which IS an issue these days, if you have more then one sound device showing up.
[20:20] <BluesKaj> zykotick9, yes I do , i have the onboard and the pci
[20:20] <zykotick9> BluesKaj: "cat /proc/asound/cards" is the card you want listed as 0?  if not, i've never gotten firefox to be able to use it.
[20:21] <dreamon> Now getting a crash .> /usr/lib/firefox/plugin-container ..
[20:21] <BluesKaj> zykotick9, yes my m-audio shows as card 0 , the onboard hda-intel shows as card 1
[20:22] <zykotick9> BluesKaj: and is it m-audio or onboard you want to be using?
[20:22] <kincho> zykotick9: I tried recordMyDesktop but it only recorded what I sang in the mic
[20:22] <dreamon> might be a audio problem?
[20:22] <BluesKaj> dreamon, I'm using m-audio as my preferred yes
[20:23] <zykotick9> kincho: i have no idea about recordmydesktop sorry...
[20:23] <BluesKaj> oops zykotick9^
[20:23] <BluesKaj> zykotick9,, I'm using m-audio as my preferred yes
[20:23] <zykotick9> BluesKaj: i'd "think" that "should" work by default...  sorry, i don't have any suggestions.
[20:23] <dreamon> BluesKaj, In the protocol it showes playback faults. root audio and so on.. sis Si7012
[20:24] <dreamon> SIS7012
[20:24] <BluesKaj> it works , but not on websites , even with pure alsa , zykotick9
[20:24] <zykotick9> BluesKaj: ya, i knew what you meant, i was talking about firefox/web.
[20:25] <dreamon> I will try to stop audio in Bios
[20:25] <BluesKaj> it's been like that since 11.10 i think , zykotick9
[20:25] <BluesKaj> dreamon, no don't do that
[20:25] <dreamon> BluesKaj, ?
[20:25] <zykotick9> BluesKaj: well, we are using different OSes... so i really can't say???  but, i feel your pain - i've been there.
[20:26] <BluesKaj> dreamon, remove flashaplayer-installer
[20:26] <dreamon> BluesKaj, OK
[20:26] <zykotick9> BluesKaj: typo above i think flashAplayer?
[20:26] <BluesKaj> yes it's a typo
[20:28] <Patrice> "no bootable CDROM on atapi" etc...
[20:28] <dreamon> BluesKaj, you mean "flashplayer-installer"?
[20:28] <Patrice> still the same
[20:28] <BluesKaj> dreamon, yes
[20:28] <Patrice> i just burnt another one, checking sum etc, and the problem keep the same. The CD is NOT bootable.
[20:29] <fancyfetus> Why is my battery functioning poorly with Ubuntu?
[20:29] <fancyfetus> I can't imagine that the two are related.
[20:29] <reisio> Patrice: what OS is on the box now?
[20:29] <fancyfetus> and it would be a huge coincedence if my battery failed the day i installed ubuntu over windows
[20:29] <fancyfetus> but it says that my battery is not present
[20:30] <BluesKaj> Patrice, where did you get the iso file ?
[20:30] <dreamon> BluesKaj, No ->  flashplugin-installer
[20:30] <fancyfetus> it sometimes recognizes it but takes days to fully charge and empties in a matter of seconds.
[20:30] <BluesKaj> yeah, that's right dreamon
[20:31] <Patrice> i got it on ubuntu website
[20:31] <dreamon> BluesKaj, and than?
[20:32] <Patrice> when i read the CD from Windows, there is nothing inside. The CD Seems empty, but it's not. Under ubuntu i see all
[20:33] <Patrice> my OS here is Xubuntu. On the server i want to install it, there is XP
[20:33] <reisio> Patrice: it's probably empty then
[20:33] <reisio> Patrice: what're you burning with?
[20:33] <Patrice> no, if i put it in ubuntu machine, i can see all the CD
[20:33] <zykotick9> Patrice: if windows can't see any content on the CD, it isn't right... that's for sure.  windows SHOULD see stuff.
[20:33] <jack---> winblows. can't be a real server. :P
[20:33] <Patrice> i use XFburn
[20:33] <BluesKaj>  dreamon, try to remove anything related to flash at this point including the the alternate.so in /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins , and startover from scratch
[20:34] <reisio> Patrice: try this from a terminal: cdrecord -v speed=4 dev=/dev/sr0 path/to/install.iso
[20:34] <Patrice> ok let's try... but i will have no more CDs.. :)
[20:35] <reisio> Patrice: :)
[20:36] <OerHeks> fancyfetus, did you search for your laptop model ? and maybe laptop-mode-tools can do some tricks > http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/raring/man8/laptop-mode.conf.8.html
[20:36] <fellayaboy> whats the best linux software for pdf annotation..i need to write something in my pdf
[20:36] <James> hi all
[20:37] <fancyfetus> OerHeks, I've done some googling to try to find a solution but have been unsuccessfull.
[20:38] <fancyfetus> Should I be searching for my laptop models laptop-mode.conf?
[20:38] <OerHeks> fancyfetus, what model?
[20:39] <fancyfetus> I have an HP dv6-6193ca
[20:40] <Patrice> is there a way to boot a computer from internet, in the bios, to force an installation from ubuntu's iso url?
[20:40] <Lighting> dose anyone know how to enable java on firefox ubuntu
[20:40] <jack---> Patrice, you wish
[20:40] <Patrice> (i still burning)
[20:41] <jammes_884> too many partitions on a new laptop how to partititon hard drive ?
[20:41] <someone235> hey, ubuntu's "startup disk creator" can create non ubuntu disks too?
[20:41] <zykotick9> someone235: no.
[20:42] <Patrice> :) yeah, an installation directly from the bios, downloading the ISO alone and installing it alone... COme on! it's not something impossible... Are they engeniers or not? :)
[20:42] <zykotick9> someone235: well, kubuntu/lubuntu/xubuntu yes - so anything *buntu is ok.
[20:42] <dreamon> BluesKaj, also ubuntu-restricted-extras?
[20:43] <someone235> zykotick9, I want to create OpenSuse, so I guess I'll have to use another program
[20:43] <zykotick9> someone235: unetbootin is one options, but there is probably something better?  best of luck.
[20:44] <BluesKaj> dreamon, reinstall it
[20:45] <jammes_884> i have a new laptop and there are 7 partititions want dual boot w7 and ubuntu how to partition the hard drive..?
[20:45] <jammes_884> any1...?
[20:48] <BluesKaj> jammes_884 , use gparted live media
[20:48] <Patrice> so the same... 5th CD burnt to throw... It still non bootable...
[20:48] <LMJ> This link says the webcam works fine but it's not even detected on my system, what could I do ? (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AsusZenbookPrime#Webcam)
[20:49] <zykotick9> Patrice: does windows see contents on the cd now?
[20:49] <Patrice> let me check
[20:49] <zykotick9> LMJ: 1) did you try cheese 2) does lsusb show it?
[20:50] <Version1> Patrice: you can boot the ISO using grub2
[20:50] <jack---> Schrodinger`Cat, what if i open your box now?
[20:50] <Patrice> so the CD is empty under windows and full under linux
[20:51] <thunder-storm> hello @ all. i use a nvidia geforce gtx 470 graphics card with the 319.32 driver and two monitors configured with twinview. all things working fine unil apt-get upgrade today... now my monitor-settings are wrong, the orientation from DFP-0 have to be right from DFP-2. In xorg.conf it's correctly configured, but lightdm don't use it so - all changes in xorg.conf will be ignored - i don't know, how i can fix that issue...
[20:51] <zykotick9> Patrice: what ISO, exactly are you using?
[20:51] <Patrice> i don't have grub on the computer where i want to install linux server
[20:51] <Patrice> the ISO of ubuntu site
[20:52] <user___> hello
[20:52] <Patrice> this ISO : http://www.ubuntu.com/download/server/thank-you?distro=server&bits=32&release=lts
[20:53] <Version1> Patrice: is USB booting possible
[20:53] <tozen_> Patrice: push Shift on start
[20:53] <Patrice> i know but my only USB key is full and i need it for something else
[20:53] <Patrice> i want to have a CD to install my server
[20:53] <Patrice> shift? ok let's try
[20:54] <zykotick9> tozen_: 1) shift on boot is for grub (i doubt that works with livecd) 2) if windows doesn't see contents on the CD, something is very wrong.
[20:55] <Patrice> shift is not doing anything
[20:56] <Patrice> yes shift is to show the grub menu on boot
[20:56] <jammes_884> i am using it but im a little confused about partitions that i need
[20:56] <Patrice> but i don't have grub on that machine
[20:58] <Patrice> and with the USB key it's better? more simple?
[21:00] <Patrice> ok, i see the problem : "Apple Computers and others: Hold down the C key while rebooting. Toshiba, IBM and others: press F12 while booting to get to the boot menu and choose CD-ROM. Asus and others: press TAB key while booting and select CD-ROM from boot menu. "  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootFromCD
[21:00] <delinquentme> in ubuntu12.04 ... the preferred way to write shortcuts for something like Git ... would be in the ~/.bashrc file orrrrr????
[21:01] <delinquentme> ~/.bash_profile ???
[21:02] <zykotick9> delinquentme: are you refering to bash aliases?  if so, then .bashrc "should" be fine.
[21:02] <jack---> 13.04 is raring ringtaill?
[21:03] <zykotick9> !13.04
[21:03] <delinquentme> zykotick9, for what applications is .bash_profile preferred?
[21:03] <zykotick9> delinquentme: beats me?
[21:03] <jack---> what's saucy then? 13.10?
[21:03] <zykotick9> !saucy
[21:03] <jack---> k, thx
[21:04] <jack---> (happily running edubuntu-saucy here)
[21:04] <Patrice> Working !!!! So it was that! I have to press F12 at booting. Even with Bios configuration  + Toshiba botting splash it's not enought. I have to press F12 on toshiba Satellitte
[21:05] <zykotick9> jack---: codename are incremented by one letter, so following Saucy will be something beginning with R
[21:05] <Patrice> thanks a lot guys
[21:05] <jack---> not t?
[21:05] <zykotick9> jack---: doh.  yes T.
[21:05] <jack---> :)
[21:06] <TJ-> I vote for 'Raring' :p
[21:06]  * zykotick9 a-b-c-d-e...
[21:13] <Susning_> ive just installed ubuntu 13.04 and have no mouse nor keyboard reaction after grub (where keyboard responded). on liveusb everything worked just fine. they are both on usb. i came from eOS before reformat which is based on ubuntu 12.. and mouse and keyboard worked there. what can i do? writing from phone now.
[21:15] <Armadillos> Susning_: USB or PS/2?
[21:16] <Susning_> usb
[21:17] <Armadillos> Susning_: See if you can get into the system via the terminal.  Do a Ctrl-Alt-F1 and see if it brings up a logon prompt.
[21:17] <Susning_> logitech k800 keyboard
[21:18] <Susning_> no no response. now the screen turned of from inactivity. cant wake
[21:19] <Susning_> wierd. i just came from a ubuntubased system where this was no issue.
[21:19] <Armadillos> Susning_: Do you have a PS/2 based keyboard around? Sounds like modprobe isn't picking up your USB
[21:20] <Susning_> maybe a converter somewhere
[21:20] <genii> Sounds like a variant on bug 870227
[21:31] <darklajid> Some ppa guru around? I'd like to grab a dovecot supplying ppa and modify it, but .. I'd appreciate some handholding
[21:32] <Susning_> aah. yes. my keyboard communicates by bluetooth and has a usb device for it plugged to the pc
[21:34] <Susning_> but i dont see why mouse acts up since its cable
[21:39] <wylde> darklajid: http://developer.ubuntu.com/packaging/html/getting-set-up.html <-- setup your own ppa ;)
[21:39] <darklajid> wylde: Setting up a ppa is not what scares me. dpkg* does.
[21:41] <darklajid> wylde: I tried looking into a source package (I'm interested in dovecot, specifically) and .. I have no clue how that's going to build all the binary packages (or how to add a binary package from the same source).
[21:41] <wylde> darklajid: well what do you mean by grabbing a ppa and modifing it? You mean modify the package? How? If you want some unincluded option you'll probably need to compile from source after modifying the appropriate files.
[21:42] <wylde> darklajid: I wanted xz compression included in squashfs-tools, so I followed the guide I posted to grab source, edit the needed files, compile package and upload to my own ppa
[21:43] <darklajid> wylde: Hrm.. But you 'just' (sorry) modified the build settings? I need to create a new package (I guess..), for a module that isn't built right now. Well, I'll just give it a try
[21:44] <wylde> darklajid: it's learning experience to be sure ;)
[21:44] <wylde> it's a*
[21:44] <darklajid> I drink to that..
[21:44] <darklajid> My Yak has little hair left by now.
[21:45] <fishcooker> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6194126/
[21:47] <mavarazo> cause of fixed secure boot, i installed ubuntu 13.10. installtion without any problems, but i only get grub2 bash...???
[21:50] <eduhat> for the /etc/network/interfaces file, for static networking is it supposed to have both auto eth0 AND iface eth0 inet static ?
[21:51] <fishcooker> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6194126/
[21:52] <zykotick9> eduhat: "auto eth0" means = automatically start it on boot.
[21:52] <fishcooker> how to clonezilla make iso for vmware image tobe iso
[21:53] <eduhat> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6194152
[21:55] <zykotick9> eduhat: if it works, it looks ok.  personally i have additional lines network and broadcast (which DO seem redundant to me... but?)
[21:56] <eduhat> does that look right?
[21:56] <eduhat> I'm having a problem on startup that it hangs. "waiting for network config"
[21:56] <zykotick9> eduhat: DON'T CHANGE IT, but you can multiple interfaces on one auto line, like "auto eth0 wlan0"
[21:57] <zykotick9> eduhat: i've never played with the ethX:Y stuff... so not sure what is required with that... best of luck.
[21:57] <eduhat> it just always hangs at bootup. No ideas?
[21:57] <mavarazo> cause of fixed secure boot, i installed ubuntu 13.10. installtion without any problems, but i only get grub2 bash...???
[21:57] <wylde> eduhat: you may want the loopback interface entry first at least
[21:58] <eduhat> ok
[22:07] <Jordan_U> mavarazo: Can you be at the grub shell and on IRC from a different computer at the same time?
[22:14] <hazeyez> where is a good place to find themes for ubuntu 13.04?
[22:15] <k1l> hazeyez: deviantart ?
[22:15] <blz> Hi.  I'm setting up a server and I was considering running an LVM to span a filesystem across multiple disks.  Can LVMs be extended?
[22:16] <hazeyez> ok, one more question... i installed ubuntu on my laptop, the speakers work but when i plug in my headphones there is no sound, what do i do?
[22:16] <k1l> hazeyez: make sure the headphones are not muted in alsamixer
[22:29] <hazeyez> k1l : i'm sorry to be a newb, but how do i view alsamixer
[22:29] <daftykins> run "alsamixer" in a terminal
[22:29] <Gentoo64> type that command
[22:30] <hazeyez> okone second
[22:30] <MeanKitty> Hey guys. My Firefox has started a new session after being killed, it displayed a list of pages that could be loaded again. But then the browser froze and I had to kill it, and now the list of pages is gone. Any idea how to get it back? :/
[22:30] <daftykins> MeanKitty: anything on the history menu?
[22:31] <SchrodingersScat> MeanKitty: history > restore previous session ? if that doesn't work maybe out of luck
[22:31] <hazeyez> headphones 100<>100 but Auto-Mut is enabled???????
[22:31] <jcrza> Hey dudes, I think I figured out the source of my problem, and I need your help. I run a minecraft server on ubuntu.. and I think the firewall is causing intermittent disconnects
[22:31] <jcrza> How can I tell my firewall to allow long-standing connections? Someone told me it might be that.
[22:31] <MeanKitty> daftykins: I have the history, but there were lots of pages opened weeks ago
[22:32] <k1l> hazeyez: choose the headphones with arrow keys and press m
[22:32] <daftykins> MeanKitty: the history menu has recently closed tabs, windows, etc - you're sure nothing is relevant?
[22:32] <MeanKitty> SchrodingersScat: The option is disabled
[22:32] <daftykins> MeanKitty: sounds like you're out of luck then
[22:33] <MeanKitty> I have a month old backup of the files, though - which file contains list of opened tabs?
[22:33] <k1l> hazeyez: but maybe the laptop does handle the headphone jack in a special way. so maybe take alook if there are experiences so far
[22:33] <hazeyez> ok should it say MM or 00?
[22:33] <k1l> hazeyez: 00
[22:34] <hazeyez> ok let me try to plug them is and see what happens
[22:35] <Gentoo64> hazeyez: press the m key
[22:35] <hazeyez> hey guys, it worked... thank you very much!!!
[22:36] <hazeyez> listen, i just switched over from windows 8, what caos it was... it took me 3 days to over ride the secure boot,.. so i've never used linux before... can you guys point me to a website that will teach me what i need to learn from beginning to end?
[22:36] <Gentoo64> hazeyez: learn as you go
[22:37] <Gentoo64> theres thousands of things you could learn, but its best to try to do something, if you cant then learn that way
[22:38] <bazhang> !manual | hazeyez
[22:38] <Raknymos> TESTING: 3 Irssi::Irc::Server=HASH(0x7fa55e77e370) #ubuntu :!manual | hazeyez bazhang ~bazhang@unaffiliated/bazhang
[22:38] <Raknymos> bazhang : No
[22:39] <bazhang> Raknymos, what
[22:39] <bazhang> !rute | hazeyez and this
[22:39] <Raknymos> TESTING: 3 Irssi::Irc::Server=HASH(0x7fa55e780e30) #ubuntu :!rute | hazeyez and this bazhang ~bazhang@unaffiliated/bazhang
[22:39] <Raknymos> bazhang : No
[22:39] <bazhang> Raknymos, are you a bot
[22:40] <k1l> yes it is, sir
[22:40] <bazhang> all signs point to yes!
[22:40] <Ben64> hard for someone who's kicked to answer though
[22:40] <hegemoOn> hello
[22:40] <bazhang> hi
[22:40] <hegemoOn> hello
[22:41] <hegemoOn> i cannot succeed to have the clock applet displayed in the top panel
[22:41] <hegemoOn> do you know how to fix it ?
[22:41] <bazhang> hegemoOn, what shell: gnome-shell or unity
[22:42] <hegemoOn> unity
[22:45] <hegemoOn> ok
[22:45] <hegemoOn> i just killed unity-panel-service
[22:46] <hegemoOn> and it work :)
[22:47] <straterra> What other WM should I try on a netbook? Default gnome is a little..heavy
[22:47] <daftykins> lxde
[22:47] <Gentoo64> i3
[22:48] <daftykins> oh wm, i was more thinking DE i guess
[22:48] <straterra> eh, de is fine too
[22:49] <_-Frustat3d-_> hey ubuntu team
[22:49] <hazeyez> ok thank you guys for the info, just one more question and ill leave you alone this evening if you dont mind... i have a usd mouse, i plug it in and nothing happens... how can i get ubuntu to recognize it?
[22:49] <_-Frustat3d-_> I'm having a very difficult time creating an encrypted partition
[22:49] <jcrza> Anyone know how to get the default ubuntu firewall to not terminate connections after a certain amount of time?
[22:49] <_-Frustat3d-_> "Disk Utility" keeps on crashing
[22:49] <jcrza> I'm almost certain that's why people are randomly getting disconnected
[22:49] <_-Frustat3d-_> I followed these instructions which do not work
[22:49] <daftykins> straterra: give xfce and lxde a try then
[22:49] <_-Frustat3d-_> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EncryptedFilesystemsOnRemovableStorage
[22:50] <straterra> yeah, i like xfce
[22:51] <k1l> hazeyez: see the end of "dmesg" when you have plugged the mouse in
[22:51] <Gentoo64> straterra: gnome takes up so much screen space
[22:52] <Gentoo64> anything is better for a netbook
[22:52] <straterra> Gentoo64: oh, I know
[22:52] <straterra> one terminal window takes up the whole damn screen
[22:53] <Hawkerz> I used to use fluxbox but I'm not sure that's maintained anymore
[22:53] <Gentoo64> you might like i3 if you're into that thing
[22:54] <hazeyez> this is the last line in dmesg: [ 6083.146447] hid-generic 0003:04D9:048E.0002: input,hidraw0: USB HID v1.10 Mouse [HID 04d9:048e] on usb-0000:00:14.0-3/input0
[22:54] <straterra> Heh..do distros still ship blackbox? That was an awesome de
[22:54] <Hawkerz> the new release of enlightenment might be good
[22:55] <Hawkerz> I haven't used it for like a century though
[22:55] <hazeyez> k1l : any ideas sir?
[22:55] <Gentoo64> hazeyez: looks like its supposed to work
[22:55] <k1l> !paste | hazeyez
[22:56] <k1l> put the last 50 lines in there
[22:56] <hazeyez> ok
[22:57] <trism> !info blackbox | straterra
[22:58] <hazeyez> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6194365/
[22:59] <straterra> hah
[22:59] <straterra> That's hilarious
[22:59] <straterra> i figured it would go the way of xmms
[22:59] <Dr_Willis> xmms just needed mo9re themes.. ;)
[22:59] <hazeyez> k1l : http://paste.ubuntu.com/6194365/
[22:59] <justanotheruser> How do I permenantly set a DNS server? Each time I connect to a network it resolv.conf gets regenerated
[22:59] <Dr_Willis> !resolv.conf
[23:00] <Dr_Willis> edit the resolvconf  configs i belive.
[23:01] <k1l> hazeyez: hmm, dont know. should work
[23:01] <hazeyez> k1l : the laser on the mouse is blinking... but the cursor is not moving
[23:05] <kxtwo> ok heres a question for you.  AT school we are given virtual machines that have versions of ubuntu on them.  We have root access since they are VM's.  Mine doesnt have apt-get or aptitude on it and I need valgrind?  Is manual the only way?
[23:06] <Ben64> doesnt sound like ubuntu if theres no apt
[23:06] <repudiate> Hey, how do I change the color settings on Ubuntu? The thing is that I'm using Ubuntu on VBox.
[23:07] <Dr_Willis> makes me wonder if theres any C packages to compile source also.
[23:07] <kxtwo> annnd you are right its freaking redhat
[23:08] <Dr_Willis> repudiate:  which colors? theres a few themes that have some customizaable color tools ive seen at webupd8 and omgubuntu blog sites.  (i forget the name, zencolor perhaps)
[23:08] <Dr_Willis> those 2 sites also tend to mention the best looking themes out for unity/gnome
[23:10] <sneak> how do i update from precise LTS to whatever the latest raring is without a reinstall?
[23:10] <sneak> do-release-upgrade doesn't let me
[23:10] <sneak> is it as easy as changing all the 'precise' to 'raring' in /etc/apt/sources.list?
[23:10] <Ben64> if you wait until 14.04 you'll save a lot of upgrading
[23:10] <Dr_Willis> that command has an option to go to the next release
[23:10] <repudiate> Dr_Willis: My terminal is not black.
[23:11] <sneak> Ben64: i don't understand the version numberings
[23:11] <Dr_Willis> you dont want to alter the sources.list
[23:11] <sneak> i have recently figured out the letter progression bit
[23:11] <Ben64> 12.04 -> 12.10 -> 13.04 -> 13.10 -> 14.04 or 12.04 -> 14.04
[23:11] <Dr_Willis> do-repease-upgrade --help
[23:11] <repudiate> Dr_Willis: It's grayish black.  But it's not the brightness fo my screen.
[23:11] <Dr_Willis> sneak:  its the date of release
[23:11] <sneak> Ben64: what is the second number?
[23:11] <sneak> ahhh
[23:11] <k1l> sneak: month
[23:11] <sneak> that makes a fuckton more sense
[23:11] <Ben64> year.month
[23:11] <Ben64> every 2 years is LTS, supported for 5 years
[23:11] <Ben64> the other releases are 9 months
[23:11] <ikonia> sneak: control your language please.
[23:12] <k1l> sneak: you cant jump over releases if its not a LTS -> LTS jump.
[23:12] <Ben64> and LTS versions can upgrade directly to the next LTS
[23:12] <Dr_Willis> the 12.x lts  is supproted for longer then 5 wasent it? i cant rember
[23:12] <sneak> ikonia: what?
[23:12] <hazeyez> k1l : thank you for the help tonight
[23:12] <ikonia> sneak: please control your language in the ubuntu channels
[23:12] <repudiate> Dr_Willis: It's grayish black.  But it's not the brightness fo my screen.
[23:12] <Ben64> Dr_Willis: 12.04 they changed it from 3 years to 5 for desktop, used to be 5 for servers only
[23:12] <sneak> control your euphemisms.  all of my language is 100% controlled, i chose to type 'fuckton'.
[23:12] <Dr_Willis> repudiate:  so?
[23:13] <repudiate> I need it black.
[23:13] <sneak> k1l: can i update from lts -> non lts?
[23:13] <repudiate> Dr_Willis: I want to adjust it to make it black.
[23:13] <sneak> it says that -p does uses $distro-proposed updater
[23:13] <sneak> is precise-proposed 'raring'?
[23:14] <Vivekananda> something wrong with my vi
[23:14] <k1l> sneak: take a breath
[23:14] <Vivekananda> on pressing backspace it goes back one character but not deleting the previous one
[23:14] <sneak> k1l: ?
[23:14] <jack---> sneak: kinda sorta
[23:14] <otak> repudiate: right-click on the terminal, select preferences
[23:14] <k1l> sneak: either you do the big jumps: LTS -> LTS or your need to do every update. 12.04 -> 12.10 -> 13.04
[23:15] <sneak> is "do-release-upgrade -p" what i want for updating a 12.04 to whatever the current non-LTS is?
[23:15] <sneak> i am fine with doing every update
[23:16] <Hellrider69> test
[23:16] <k1l> sneak: no
[23:16] <k1l> sneak: set the release-prompt to non-LTS and run do-release-upgrade
[23:16] <repudiate> I got it otak. Thanks dude.
[23:17] <sneak> k1l: where is release-prompt specified?
[23:18] <sneak> found it with grep, thanks
[23:18] <k1l> /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades
[23:18] <sneak> sed -i 's/LTS/normal/;' /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades  # all fixed
[23:18] <k1l> should say "normal" for regular updates
[23:18] <sneak> thanks guys, hve a great night
[23:19] <sneak> <3
[23:19] <jack---> 13.10 is totally fine here
[23:19] <jack---> i like it
[23:19] <repudiate> repudiate:
[23:20] <repudiate> circuitous
[23:20] <Ben64> jack---: #ubuntu+1 for 13.10
[23:20] <jack---> k
[23:24] <Marlenee> how i set my current session of putty into screen without abort the app
[23:25] <ikonia> Marlenee: you can't
[23:25] <pmatulis_> i noticed rsyslogd is consuming a lot of cpu since my upgrade to saucy
[23:26] <ikonia> Marlenee: screen needs to be running first
[23:27] <thinknow> Hi, does unetbootin needs root access to make a startup disk?
[23:28] <ikonia> thinknow: it's writing to a device, so yes
[23:28] <thinknow> when i try to open it in desktop mode, it ask for admin priviligies
[23:28] <thinknow> ok
[23:28] <thinknow> thnx
[23:29] <Marlenee> ikonia : any other way to do that
[23:29] <ikonia> to do what ?
[23:30] <Marlenee> ikonia : to put my running app in background
[23:30] <ikonia> "bg"
[23:30] <ikonia> ctrl + z
[23:30] <Marlenee> i have to dissconect the session because app will take alot of time
[23:30] <Marlenee> the app i already running
[23:31] <ikonia> ctrl + z
[23:31] <Dr_Willis> ctl-z puts the command in thebackground. then 'bg' starts it running in the background
[23:31] <Dr_Willis> check the bash guides for 'job controll' for other details ;)
[23:32] <Dr_Willis> and get in the habbit of using the 'exit' command to close a shell. dont just hit the close button
[23:32] <Marlenee> ikonia : ctrl + z will kill the app
[23:32] <ikonia> no it won't
[23:32] <k1l> which app?
[23:32] <Dr_Willis> longshellcommand
[23:32] <Dr_Willis> ctrl-z
[23:32] <Dr_Willis> bg
[23:33] <Dr_Willis> longshellcommand then runs in the background.
[23:33] <Marlenee> i found something http://serverfault.com/questions/55880/moving-an-already-running-process-to-screen/284795#284795
[23:33] <ikonia> what's the point of asking to ignore it
[23:39] <jrc> 10000000000000000
[23:39] <ikonia> that's great, please don't do that
[23:39] <jrc> my kitty did it
[23:40] <jrc> oh and fuck you nazi
[23:40] <ikonia> an acceptable reason
[23:44] <Maja1991-BGD> http://192.168.67.128:8080/Ref/Toxic
[23:44] <Dr_Willis> now for an actual support question.. got a ssh shell going to a remote.. after a wile it just seems to hang. or disconnect (a time out setting perhaps?) but shouldent it say somtning like 'client disconnected' or closed connection? the shell just sort of returns nothing and hangs.
[23:45] <k1l> Maja1991-BGD: that is a internal ip that doesnt work in here. and ref links are not welcome
[23:45] <Ben64> Dr_Willis: usually happens because a bad connection, but it is possible for the link to be severed and not bring back a disconnected message
[23:47] <Dr_Willis> i thought it may be bad connection also. since im getting to the server over my cellphone.  for now i run tmux when i connect and it never seems to hang after that. ;)
[23:48] <backtrackuser> hello
[23:49] <kxtwo> let me just say
[23:49] <kxtwo> seriously
[23:49] <kxtwo> F redhat :)
[23:49] <repudiate> I don't know shit about Linux, even how to install these packages. Where is a good place to get started learning?
[23:49] <Dr_Willis> i just notice i seem tohave some extra bash logins still hanging around from the ssh sessions that have disconnected. ;)
[23:49] <blz> How can I mount an internal SATA drive that isn't in fstab?
[23:49] <Dr_Willis> !manual | repudiate
[23:49] <Dr_Willis> blz:  use a full proper mount command
[23:50] <Dr_Willis> !mount | blz
[23:50] <Ben64> repudiate: watch the language here, and which packages? normally you'd use the software center to install stuff
[23:50] <blz> Dr_Willis, thanks
[23:50] <Dr_Willis> blz:  example.. 'sudo mount /dev/sda1 /media/Make-a-dir'
[23:50] <hid> hey i've just installed ubuntu minimal. How to add default folders?
[23:50] <repudiate> Ben64: But I want to know how to install stuff without the software center as well
[23:50] <blz> Dr_Willis, ah that's what I've been doing wrong, I think.  I don't think I made a dir in /media  -__-
[23:50] <hid> I mean, i there a better way than mkdir ~/Documents, etc?
[23:50] <Ben64> repudiate: depends what it is but that could potentially mess up the system
[23:51] <Dr_Willis> blz:  the mountpoint MUST exist beforhand..or mount will give an erorr that sort of says that
[23:51] <blz> Dr_Willis, I got no error... oh well. It seems to be working now =)
[23:51] <Dr_Willis> hid:  you mean for all new users? make a /etc/skel/ layout how you want and new users get that as their base
[23:51] <johndoesz> mkuser?
[23:51] <blz> Dr_Willis, is there a way to determine what the filesystem type is?
[23:52] <Dr_Willis> blz:  sudo blkid. fdisk -l, perhaos other commands
[23:52] <Dr_Willis> blz:  or use -t auto   ;) it auto figured it out most of the time
[23:52] <repudiate> Ben64: This is my first day on Ubuntu or Linux for that matter. I was first trying to follow directions to install some software that I later found I can install through the Software Center--but not everything will be there, right?
[23:52] <hid> Dr_Willis: only for me
[23:52] <Dr_Willis> repudiate:   the software center shows whats in the ubuntu repositories.
[23:52] <blz> Dr_Willis, I just wanted to know for myself.  I'll give those a shot
[23:52] <blz> thanks again
[23:53] <Ben64> repudiate: the software center has a ton of stuff, and for stuff that isn't there, you can try to find a PPA that has it
[23:53] <Dr_Willis> repudiate:  theres  unoffical repositories. and ppa's you can add for most stuff
[23:53] <repudiate> Dr_Willis: Oh, who puts things there?
[23:53] <repudiate> Dr_Willis: PPA?
[23:53] <Ben64> !ppa | repudiate
[23:53] <Dr_Willis> !ppa | repudiate
[23:53] <Dr_Willis> ;)
[23:53] <repudiate> Dr_Willis: When I search the Software center, am I searching official and unofficial repositories?
[23:53] <Dr_Willis> note that ppa's CAN cause issues. and are best avoided if you dont really need the packages from them
[23:53] <Dr_Willis> repudiate:  if you added any other repos or ppa's you search them all
[23:54] <Dr_Willis> repudiate:  what are you wanting to install?
[23:54] <syntroPi> repudiate, adding a ppa means trusting the ppa's owner with your systems root rights
[23:54] <repudiate> k-touch
[23:54] <ShadowBlaze18> are you allowed to use Ubuntu's trademarks to label a pc that is being sold that has Ubuntu on it?
[23:54] <Dr_Willis> !find k-touch
[23:54] <repudiate> syntroPi: Oh okay, thanks.
[23:54] <Dr_Willis> repudiate:  no idea what k-touch is.  it dosent seem to be in the repos
[23:54] <repudiate> But I really want to make sense of this make file stuff.
[23:55] <Dr_Willis> repudiate:  start with the ubuntu manual. and go from there.
[23:55] <Dr_Willis> !apt | repudiate
[23:55] <repudiate> Dr_Willis: I found it in the Software Center, it's just slow to download.
[23:55] <repudiate> Just finished
[23:55] <Dr_Willis> repudiate:  depends on the server load. ;)
[23:55] <blz> How do I add an unpartitioned drive to my an LVM's logical volume?
[23:55] <repudiate> This is overwhelming for me right now. Thanks a lot guys.
[23:56] <Dr_Willis> repudiate:  think of the software center as a 'app market' ;) its about the same idea. only you can customize what 'stores' you look at.
[23:56] <blz> repudiate, stick with it.  It gets easier and you'll wonder how you ever managed to use anything else =)
[23:56] <Dr_Willis> repudiate:  and the apt system has been around for Decades longer then  the android or apple market idea
[23:57] <Dr_Willis> repudiate:  learn the command line apt tools also.  it can be a lot faster to use them
[23:57] <jack---> <3 aptitude
[23:57] <repudiate> Thanks.
[23:57] <Dr_Willis> i only use a small fraction of all the apt systems features
[23:58] <Dr_Willis> and ive bene using linux for years. ;)
[23:58] <pmatulis_> blz: pvcreate
[23:58] <_-Frustat3d-_> there's a bug with "Disk Utility". It cannot actually create an encrypted partition following these instructions: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EncryptedFilesystemsOnRemovableStorage
[23:58] <_-Frustat3d-_> can someone here confirm the bug and file a bug report?