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ochosibrainwash: probably not for 13.10, but for 14.04 we could do it00:05
bluesabreali1234: sometimes it takes a few seconds to change the track01:38
bluesabrelet me know if it never changes01:38
pmjdebruijnhi folks, I'm running Xubuntu Saucy on my netbook, and I changed my mouse pointer to the black set09:36
pmjdebruijnhowever now it's only black some apps09:36
* pmjdebruijn wonders if it's a GTK2/GTK3 thing?09:36
brainwashochosi: do you keep track of these suggestions or should I file a bug report (git or lp)?11:25
knomewhat suggestion?11:29
brainwashone of the was to remove the steppers (arrows) from the scrollbars11:33
brainwash(greybird)11:33
brainwashbecause firefox and libreoffice still show them11:34
knomethe problem?11:38
knomei mean, i don't mind that... and i don't think it's too different/noticeable11:39
brainwashaccording to ochosi removing the steppers used to glitch the scrollbars on some websites (they appeared to be twice as big)11:39
knomethat too11:40
knomeif removing them brings more bugs... meg11:40
knome*meh11:40
brainwashI can't reproduce it11:40
brainwashso we need to find a website which is actually affected11:41
knomemaybe that should be investigated then11:41
brainwashif any at all11:41
brainwashgoogle reader was affected at some point.. but google disabled this service11:42
brainwashI'll file a bug report, so we can keep track of this issue11:45
knomeyep, that's always good11:48
sheldoraaaais there any hardware identify software?13:49
pmjdebruijnsheldoraaaa: lshw ?13:59
pmjdebruijnthat's a console/terminal too though, but it does the job13:59
pmjdebruijnah wait, lshw-gtk is a gui frontend14:00
ochosibrainwash: yeah, reporting a bug is a good idea to keep it on the radar14:39
brainwashochosi: ok, and here's some more information regarding the appfinder: kill any running instance of xfce4-appfinder/xfrun4, rename your xfce4-appfinder.xml config and now start the appfinder14:41
brainwashit should start without delay14:41
ochosiaha, weird14:43
ochosiso it doesn't affect everyone, it's an upgrade issue14:43
brainwashonly people who opened the settings dialog14:43
brainwashotherwise it won't create a user-specific config file I guess14:44
brainwashbug 104880514:45
ubottubug 1048805 in xfce4-appfinder (Ubuntu) "xfrun4 launches very slowly" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/104880514:45
brainwashI'm still trying to understand how the whole appfinder works14:45
ochosihm, no14:45
ochosistill launches slowly here14:46
brainwashkillall -9 xfce4-appfinder?14:46
brainwashand maybe xfrun414:47
brainwashok, can't reproduce it on my vm14:49
ochosistill takes 5secs and i get that dbus error14:50
brainwashmaybe it's the format of the xml file or xfsettingsd after all14:50
brainwashthis is so odd14:50
brainwashehm, xfconfd14:51
brainwashah, time to fetch the latest updates14:53
brainwashhttps://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gvfs/1.18.2-0ubuntu114:53
brainwashochosi: should we add this appfinder madness to the 13.10 blue print?14:54
ochosican anyone apart from the two of us reproduce it?14:54
brainwashand the people from the bug report14:55
ochosiright, but it doesn't seem to be 13.10 specific14:56
ochosiit's just a random (annoying) bug, that pops up for some people14:56
ochosiso, technically it's not aregression14:56
brainwash13.04 support is ending soon anyway :P14:56
brainwashoh, 12.10 should be affected too14:57
ochosiyeah, it's a long-standing issue 14:58
ochosibut by far not everyone is affected by it14:58
brainwashyea, if you don't care about changing the appfinder settings, you won't be affected I think14:59
ochosiwell that didn't fix things for me14:59
ochosiso i14:59
ochosim not sure that's really what's going on14:59
brainwashI'll find the culprit, wouldn't be the first time :)15:00
ochosisounds good :)15:07
ochosi(and would certainly be good to get that issue resolved once and for all)15:07
ochosiNumix and Bluebird should work now with the Gtk3 indicators15:35
ochosiOrion and Albatross to go...15:35
ochosijjfrv8: hey, just quickly wanted to ask whether the parole docs are still on your agenda (no biggie if not, but we'd ask around in that case)15:40
brainwashochosi: is the gtk3 panel/indicator plugin available via ppa?15:51
ochosinot yet15:51
brainwashok15:52
ochosiafaik micahg will put it in a PPA asap for testing15:52
ochosior maybe bluesabre will do it, not sure15:52
ali1234ochosi: i could put it in a ppa if i knew how to update the packages to git versions18:14
knomeochosi, micahg probably is going to do that, but if bluesabre can do it so we can test it, that would be wonderful as well.19:48
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brainwashochosi: does the appfinder fail to popup when you first start it / press the kb shortcut?23:04
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brainwashafter a fresh boot or relog (or after killing any existing appfinder process)23:07
brainwashcan anyone else confirm the delayed start of xfce4-appfinder (alt+F2)?23:50
Noskcajbrainwash, it only takes s second to open for me23:51
brainwashs? :) 23:51
slickymasterhi brainwash in my 13.04 xubuntu box it starts immediately  without any sort of delayed23:51
slickymasterdelay23:51
slickymasterNoskcaj, hi o/23:52
Noskcajbrainwash, 123:52
Noskcajoops23:52
Noskcajhey slickymaster 23:52
slickymasterNoskcaj, hope everything is good with you23:53
brainwashit's hard to reproduce this issue, I can't force the delay on a fresh installation of xubuntu by changing configs, killing xfce processes,..23:53
brainwashbetween, gvfs has been updated, so thunar shouldn't freeze anymore when emptying the trash, browsing network shares, enabling tree view,...23:55

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