[00:16] <xubuntu749> ciao
[01:01] <bugbeast> usually when i want to share a folder i right click on it, select properties and there is a sharing tab. i just installed 13.04 on a new machine and there is no option to share.  i have installed samba and system-config-samba. what am I missing?
[01:07] <bugbeast> i added a share in the samba GUI in launcher -> System -> Samba but I cant push files into the folder from a windows machine. i get a permission denied error.  (shared the public folder in my home folder to anyone with read/write control)
[02:55] <HonestAbe> hello folks!
[02:56] <HonestAbe> I've got some trouble, I messaged the fine folks at #xfce, but it might be more of a xubuntu problem
[02:56] <HonestAbe> I've got two themes that seem to want to battle it out for control of my desktop
[02:56] <HonestAbe> one handles windows, and the other handles the panel
[02:57] <HonestAbe> any suggestions on how to fix this? Should I nuke my ~/.config folder?
[02:57] <Poisoned_Dragon> lol, never heard of a battle royal between a window manager theme and a panel theme
[02:58] <HonestAbe> It's quite exciting
[02:58] <Unit193> One is "Appearance" and the other is in "Window Manager"?
[02:58] <HonestAbe> they're holding knives to eachother's digital throats /s
[02:58] <Poisoned_Dragon> what is it doing?
[02:58] <HonestAbe> Unit193: Bingo.
[02:58] <Unit193> HonestAbe: My other option was see if Germany or Russia win. ;P
[02:59] <HonestAbe> hmmm
[02:59] <HonestAbe> that seems like the more entertaining of the two options
[02:59] <HonestAbe> but alas, this is absolutely infuriating
[02:59] <Poisoned_Dragon> what is the appearance theme and the wm theme?
[02:59] <HonestAbe> actually, it's ignoring the appearance theme
[03:00] <Poisoned_Dragon> and where are they clashing?
[03:00] <Poisoned_Dragon> oh
[03:00] <HonestAbe> well, the top border changes
[03:00] <HonestAbe> (not sure as to the precise terminology)
[03:00] <HonestAbe> but everything else remains windows 98
[03:00] <Poisoned_Dragon> the top border of the window?
[03:00] <HonestAbe> yes
[03:01] <HonestAbe> xfce4-panel also gives no fucks
[03:01] <Poisoned_Dragon> ok, so it sounds like the wm theme isdoing it's job
[03:01] <HonestAbe> ok
[03:01] <Poisoned_Dragon> if the appearance theme isn't changing the panels, maybe the appearance theme isn't an appearance theme at all
[03:01] <HonestAbe> ok
[03:02] <HonestAbe> how do i destroy this appearance imposter?
[03:02] <HonestAbe> and will I need silvered weapons?
[03:02] <Poisoned_Dragon> a theme folder has to have other folders in it that are dedicated to changing the wm or the appearance
[03:02] <Poisoned_Dragon> theme folders with xfwm4 folders in it affect the wm
[03:03] <Poisoned_Dragon> appearance theme folders will have gtk2 or metacity theme folders
[03:03] <Poisoned_Dragon> some themes have both, to change both
[03:03] <HonestAbe> ok, none of them are working through the appearance picker
[03:03] <Poisoned_Dragon> oh.... that is odd
[03:04] <HonestAbe> and the panel, still giving no fucks
[03:04] <Poisoned_Dragon> is the panel set to use the appearance style, or are they set to custom?
[03:05] <HonestAbe> use system style
[03:05] <Poisoned_Dragon> right click on a panel, mouse over panel and click panel preferences
[03:05] <HonestAbe> i just nuked my panel prefs
[03:05] <Poisoned_Dragon> oh, ok
[03:05] <Poisoned_Dragon> hmm... I never had this prob before.
[03:05] <HonestAbe> i'm about to nuke my entire .config folder
[03:05] <HonestAbe> and see if that does it
[03:05] <Poisoned_Dragon> was it always that way, or was it after an update?
[03:05] <HonestAbe> not even after an update
[03:05] <HonestAbe> just after a reboot one day
[03:06] <HonestAbe> maybe an update? I don't know. I'm a terrible person and I don't pay attention.
[03:06] <Poisoned_Dragon> if I didn't know better, I'd swear you needed to reinstall xfce-panel
[03:06] <HonestAbe> weeeeell
[03:06] <HonestAbe> it's not just eh panel, remember
[03:06] <HonestAbe> *the
[03:06] <Poisoned_Dragon> *xfce4-panel
[03:07] <HonestAbe> it's also everything theme based that isn't the top border
[03:07] <Poisoned_Dragon> If the wm themes are working, then I would look into the panel component first
[03:07] <HonestAbe> hrmmm
[03:07] <HonestAbe> ok
[03:07] <Poisoned_Dragon> did you try other wm themes?
[03:07] <HonestAbe> i'll try it and report back
[03:07] <HonestAbe> every wm theme
[03:07] <Poisoned_Dragon> and they work?
[03:08] <HonestAbe> just the top border
[03:08] <HonestAbe> nothing else is affected
[03:08] <HonestAbe> no fonts
[03:08] <HonestAbe> no buttons
[03:08] <Poisoned_Dragon> that's all that they are for
[03:08] <Poisoned_Dragon> the window borders
[03:08] <Poisoned_Dragon> and the top
[03:08] <HonestAbe> really?
[03:08] <HonestAbe> wow, color me ignorant
[03:08] <Poisoned_Dragon> yup
[03:08] <HonestAbe> thought they handled the menu bars as well
[03:08] <Poisoned_Dragon> so, diagnose the panel component
[03:08] <HonestAbe> ok
[03:09] <HonestAbe> i shall reinstall that and report back
[03:09] <Poisoned_Dragon> k
[03:12] <HonestAbe> oh my
[03:13] <HonestAbe> it's so angry
[03:13] <HonestAbe> it's come back from the abyss stronger than ever.
[03:13] <HonestAbe> that is to say, the panel remains unfazed
[03:13] <HonestAbe> and unchanged
[03:13] <HonestAbe> i'm going to try nuking .configg
[03:14] <HonestAbe> *.config
[03:14] <Poisoned_Dragon> hmmm
[03:14] <HonestAbe> and see what happens
[03:14] <Poisoned_Dragon> ok
[03:14] <Poisoned_Dragon> wait
[03:14] <Poisoned_Dragon> the folder?
[03:14] <HonestAbe> yes
[03:14] <HonestAbe> brb
[03:14] <HonestAbe> *be right back.
[03:14] <Poisoned_Dragon> but, doesn't it have other config files for other things?
[03:14] <Poisoned_Dragon> hmmm oh well
[03:19] <Poisoned_Dragon> any luck?
[03:19] <HonestAbe> no
[03:19] <HonestAbe> but something similar has happened before
[03:19] <HonestAbe> and this fixed it
[03:20] <HonestAbe> but it had to restart a second time(i'm not sure why)
[03:20] <HonestAbe> so, I'll restart again, but to answer your question earlier
[03:20] <HonestAbe> yes, there is other stuff there, but nothing of value
[03:20] <HonestAbe> to me at least.
[03:21] <Poisoned_Dragon> k
[03:22] <Poisoned_Dragon> I wish I could be more helpful. I never had that problem before
[03:22] <HonestAbe> it's totally fine
[03:22] <HonestAbe> it's a bizarre problem.
[03:22] <HonestAbe> this time though, the theme changed on restart
[03:22] <HonestAbe> so, no more windows 98
[03:22] <HonestAbe> but it still doesn't change within the menu
[03:23] <Poisoned_Dragon> hmmm
[03:23] <HonestAbe> restarting
[03:23] <HonestAbe> but ponder that
[03:23] <HonestAbe> deeply.
[03:28] <HonestAbe> had any epiphanies?
[03:28] <Poisoned_Dragon> no :(
[03:28] <HonestAbe> dang.
[03:28] <Poisoned_Dragon> what version of xubuntu are you using?
[03:29] <HonestAbe> 12.10 apparently
[03:29] <Poisoned_Dragon> hmm
[03:30] <Poisoned_Dragon> could be a good excuse to back up your data and do a clean install of 13.04
[03:30] <Poisoned_Dragon> :)
[03:30] <HonestAbe> arrrrgh
[03:30] <HonestAbe> it totally could be
[03:30] <HonestAbe> but that is the last thing i want to do tonight
[03:31] <Poisoned_Dragon> because it's either software related, or your filesystem took a dump
[03:31] <Poisoned_Dragon> either way, a fresh something is in order.
[03:31] <Poisoned_Dragon> then do it tommorow
[03:32] <HonestAbe> I'm going away for the weekend
[03:32] <HonestAbe> i have to do it on monday or tuesday
[03:32] <HonestAbe> probably tuesday
[03:32] <Poisoned_Dragon> ah. :(
[03:32] <happyjoy> id say use 12.04.3
[03:32] <Poisoned_Dragon> Whatever you decide yo use, I wish you luck with it.
[03:33] <HonestAbe> totally not looking forward to that
[03:33] <Poisoned_Dragon> think of it as a good reason to unplug for a bit
[03:33] <Poisoned_Dragon> we all need to unplug now and then
[03:33] <HonestAbe> it's not the unplugging
[03:34] <HonestAbe> it's the drivers
[03:34] <Poisoned_Dragon> broadcom wifi?
[03:34] <HonestAbe> nvidia card
[03:34] <Poisoned_Dragon> meh... jockey can handle the driver aspect.
[03:34] <HonestAbe> ethernet connection for the win
[03:34] <Poisoned_Dragon> oh... the wifi is nvidia?
[03:35] <HonestAbe> err
[03:35] <HonestAbe> no
[03:35] <HonestAbe> graphics card is
[03:35] <HonestAbe> i don't even use wifi is what i was saying
[03:35] <Poisoned_Dragon> ah, ok. Was about to give you that puzzled look
[03:35] <HonestAbe> yeah
[03:35] <HonestAbe> that would have been bizarre
[03:35] <happyjoy> it has been done
[03:35] <HonestAbe> more bizarre than any problems i'd have had tonight
[03:36] <Poisoned_Dragon> so, this is a desktop on an ethernet connection?
[03:36] <HonestAbe> yes
[03:36] <Poisoned_Dragon> well, if the video drivers are the hardest part, I'd say you're golden. Unless you have an interesting gpu
[03:36] <HonestAbe> nah
[03:36] <HonestAbe> nothing that interesting
[03:37] <HonestAbe> i should probably switch to a distro with eyecandy
[03:37] <HonestAbe> but goddamnit, i like xubuntu
[03:37] <Poisoned_Dragon> lol
[03:37] <Poisoned_Dragon> I could have a modern quad core with any gtx model nvidia, and I would still use xfce
[03:37] <HonestAbe> ^
[03:37] <HonestAbe> that's what I have
[03:38] <Viva_Caligula> I think eye candy looks plain ugly.
[03:38] <HonestAbe> also ^
[03:38] <HonestAbe> simplicity is beauty
[03:38] <Viva_Caligula> I like simple clean stuff, and square corners
[03:38] <Poisoned_Dragon> closest thing I have to eyecandy is xfce with plank.
[03:38] <Poisoned_Dragon> and a nice theme
[03:39] <Poisoned_Dragon> preferably dark
[03:39] <HonestAbe> hmm, if i'm going to do a clean install
[03:39] <HonestAbe> anyone know of any modern/updated equivalents to gnomedo?
[03:39] <HonestAbe> might do away with panels completely
[03:40] <Poisoned_Dragon> anything with just openbox. lol
[03:42] <Poisoned_Dragon> if your savvy with conky, you could eliminate panels that way
[03:42] <Poisoned_Dragon> then just have a right click menu
[03:42] <Poisoned_Dragon> maybe a dock
[03:42] <HonestAbe> have to seen gnomedo?
[03:43] <Poisoned_Dragon> never heard of it
[03:43] <HonestAbe> it was awesome
[03:43] <HonestAbe> last updated in 2009 though
[03:44] <HonestAbe> super+<space> brought up a box with which you could go to directories/programs/wherever the imagination fancied
[03:44] <Poisoned_Dragon> updated 2012
[03:44] <HonestAbe> heeey, their homepage lies
[03:45] <HonestAbe> http://do.cooperteam.net/
[03:45] <HonestAbe> oh, project news. Wow, I'm retarded.
[03:49] <HonestAbe> offhand, how do you make a function in bash?
[03:49] <HonestAbe> *define a function
[03:50] <Poisoned_Dragon> I dunno
[03:50] <Poisoned_Dragon> not that savvy
[04:25] <Viva_Caligula> 31 turns down...
[04:25] <Viva_Caligula> *pause for soldering iron to heat up*
[04:27] <Viva_Caligula> wrong channel, whoops
[07:48] <excalibr> xfce4 users, what does your xfce4-terminal report $COLORTERM as?
[07:49] <cfhowlett> command not found
[07:50] <koegs> cfhowlett: you have to use "echo $COLORTERM"
[07:55] <vdonnefort> Hi all!
[07:55] <vdonnefort> I've just installed xubuntu 13.04
[07:55] <vdonnefort> and I can't find msmtp
[07:56] <vdonnefort> do you know wht?
[07:56] <Unit193> !info msmtp
[07:56] <Unit193> !info msmtp-gnome
[07:56] <cfhowlett> vdonnefort, in other words you have to manually install it
[07:56] <Unit193> excalibr: xfce4-terminal
[07:59] <vdonnefort> cfhowlett: though I have standard repo into sources.list? Why It doesn't appear?
[07:59] <cfhowlett> mtmtp is a gnome app and xubuntu is XFCE so ...
[08:00] <cfhowlett> or is it?
[08:00] <cfhowlett> maybe I misspoke
[08:00] <cfhowlett> anyway, easy enough to install: sudo apt-get install msmtp*
[08:01] <excalibr> Unit193: thank you!
[08:01] <vdonnefort> cfhowlett: that's my problem: "apt-cache search msmtp: nothin!" :)
[08:01] <Unit193> Might want to drop that asterisk..
[08:01] <Unit193> vdonnefort: It's in universe.
[08:02] <cfhowlett> vdonnefort, so you must enable the universe repository
[08:02] <Unit193> Have you updated sources recently?
[08:02] <vdonnefort> ooooh thanks, I have to add universe repo
[08:02] <vdonnefort> Unit193: yes just before trying apt-cache search
[08:05] <Unit193> Thought universe was default, not sure about multiverse.
[08:06] <vdonnefort> do you know why this repo has been removed into xubuntu? Thank you for your help! Unit193 & cfhowlett
[08:07] <Unit193> !universe
[08:07] <Unit193> Meh.
[08:30] <User66> Hello everybody, I do wonder if the AMD Drivers (using Xubuntu 13.04 and gonna install AMD Drivers 13.4), are they the same as regular Ubuntu?
[08:30] <baizon> User66: yes they are
[08:31] <baizon> janeks991: stop it pls
[08:31] <User66> baizon: Thanks, I do wonder somehing more due... When I "sucessfully" installed previously I got to the login (when rebooted) but I could not log in
[08:31] <User66> Is that normal?
[08:31] <knome> Janeks991, please remove your other clients from the channel; you have 6
[09:40] <jglauche> hey, after upgrading to 13.04 I'm unable to set keyboard shortcuts in xfce4-terminal
[09:41] <jglauche> like. I do want to have crtl+c and crtl+shift+c functionality swapped
[09:47] <Nein9999> I'm the only have problem installing Steam (sudo dpkg -i steam_latest.deb)
[09:47] <Nein9999> Error: dpkg: error processing steam-launcher (--install):  dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
[09:49] <Nein9999> Fixed :=)
[09:50] <Nein9999> All thourgh, I have gotten a black screen while trying to install AMD Drivers (13.4) second time, can't do anything and I need to format
[09:51] <Nein9999> I can fill upp information if somebody would answear...
[09:51] <cfhowlett> !patience|Nein9999
[09:52] <Nein9999> ubottu: Thanks I will search more (thanks for links), all due it's VERY hard to do anything when you can't even installl GPU drivers...
[09:53] <Nein9999> and I got owend...
[09:53] <Nein9999> Well played
[09:59] <knome> jglauche, open the menu, hover over the menu item you want to change the shortcut for and press the new shortcut key
[10:00] <knome> jglauche, if that doesn't work, go go settings manager -> appearance -> settings and check 'enable editable accelerators', then try again
[10:13] <jglauche> knome: I don't want to set a menu item, I want to edit my shortcuts inside the terminal window
[10:14] <jglauche> knome: like ctrl+c should copy, ctrl+v should paste (instead crtl+shift+key)
[10:14] <jglauche> knome: this menu doesn't exist anymore, apparently..
[10:19] <knome> jglauche, please read again what i said
[10:19] <knome> jglauche, go to the edit menu, hover over "copy" and press ctrl+C
[10:20] <knome> jglauche, that's the standard GTK+ way of editing shortcuts
[10:20] <jglauche> oh.
[10:20] <jglauche> yeah, that works well if the menu item is not set to disabled
[10:21] <knome> well select some text... but you're correct, that's probably a bug.
[10:21] <jglauche> did figure that out..
[10:21] <knome> jglauche, you could check if one exists, and if not, file one
[10:22] <jglauche> so, ~$ ^C
[10:22] <jglauche> err
[10:22] <jglauche> I wonder how I can stop it from issuing a SIGINT when doign ctrl+c and not having a text selected
[10:24] <knome> for that, you might need to do some xmodmap modifications
[12:15] <xubuntu718> Hello, when I do sudo apt-get update and after upgrade I get three package how need to be updated, how do I download them?
[12:15] <xubuntu718> "The following packages have been kept back:   linux-generic linux-headers-generic linux-image-generic"
[12:15] <bgardner> xubuntu718: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[12:15] <xubuntu718> bgardiner: You are right Sir :D
[13:15] <RJ45> I left my computer on all night last night again, and the same thing happened again; came back to black screen of total unresponsiveness
[13:15] <RJ45> seriously, what's going on?
[13:15] <RJ45> I can't for the life of me figure-out what's wrong!, I've checked all the settings and they appear to be pretty safe
[13:16] <RJ45> I REALLY can't have this happening every night! 0_0
[13:16] <RJ45> it appears as-if my problem might be like this:  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xscreensaver/+bug/882251
[13:16] <RJ45> except I'm using Xubuntu 12.04.3, and it's happening in 'blank screen only mode', not 'random'.
[13:16] <RJ45> also, this problem only seems to occur at night, when I leave it during the day, I come back and it's okay
[13:37] <jglauche> RJ45: can you remotely log into the computer if that happens?
[13:39] <RJ45> jglauche: IDK.. I doubt is, it's completely unresponsive by keyboard not even '[CTRL] + [ALT] + [F1/2/3...]', I could try installing SSH to try when it happens again
[13:39] <dr0p> hi, what's the gtk theme used by default in 13.10 ?
[13:40] <jglauche> RJ45: please do
[13:41] <bgardner> RJ45: Have you tried the magic SysReq keystrokes?
[13:41] <RJ45> jglauche: I'd set0up VNC too if it wasn't too buggy to keep running on Xubuntu :-/
[13:41] <RJ45> set-up*
[13:41] <jglauche> buggy?
[13:41] <jglauche> install x11vnc and you'll have a session of your current desktop
[13:42] <RJ45> yeah, just randomly closes after a while of being launched from shell, and the applications menu icon shows-up a GUI that doesn't work, has settings that do nothing x_x
[13:43] <RJ45> jglauche: lol, that's the one that's all screwy! XD
[13:43] <jglauche> really?
[13:43] <RJ45> yup
[13:43] <jglauche> what happens?
[13:43] <RJ45> look up o.o
 yeah, just randomly closes after a while of being launched from shell, and the applications menu icon shows-up a GUI that doesn't work, has settings that do nothing x_x
[13:44] <jglauche> uh
[13:45] <RJ45> when I launch from command line, it does work, I have a nice VNC server ..for about 3 minutes :-/
[13:45]  * jglauche is terrible at assimilating information today
[13:45] <jglauche> how does it crash? segfault?
[13:45] <RJ45> IDK...
[13:45] <RJ45> I could try now I guess
[13:46] <jglauche> it should output *something* on the command line
[13:48] <sheldoraaaa> yo
[13:48] <bgardner> sheldoraaaa: Hello
[13:49] <RJ45> jglauche: yeah jus' tried, didn't work for long, it just froze-up on client side (client is usually fine with other servers), when it froze-up there was nothing unusual logged-out, and when I clicked disconnect on client side, the server exited.
[13:49] <sheldoraaaa> hey anyone kno if is there any hardware identify software ?
[13:50] <jglauche> RJ45: what you could try is having the server run over the night, but do not connect with a client. then if it freezes, try to connect and see if it's still there
[13:50] <jglauche> also ssh into it while you do just to be sure
[13:50] <bgardner> RJ45: Or try this next time you find it locked up: http://fosswire.com/post/2007/09/fix-a-frozen-system-with-the-magic-sysrq-keys/
[13:51] <RJ45> jglauche: wanna see the output?, I can paste-bin it
[13:51] <jglauche> RJ45: not sure if it's useful if the client freezes
[13:55] <RJ45> jglauche:   http://pastebin.com/nTf6qZdq
[13:56] <RJ45> jglauche:  logged-into Pastebin, and created baste, just for you :3
[14:02] <jglauche> RJ45: nothing unusual, seems like the client is the problem
[14:04] <RJ45> jglauche: nope, client is fine, never had a problem with Vino server on Ubuntu, and any other VNC, and I've used VNC with a-lot of stuff, including a Raspberry PI running Raspbian, and an android smartphone :D  so safe to say, the client has been put through its paces.
[14:05] <RJ45> client is 'Vinagre'
[14:05] <jglauche> never tried
[14:05] <jglauche> I'm using xvncviewer
[14:05] <RJ45> anyways I gotta get-up and go somewhere now :-/
[14:05] <RJ45> c'ya
[14:06] <jglauche> report back tomrrow if the computer crashed or your screen..
[14:06] <RJ45> yeah yeah, and I should have at-least SSH running smoothly by then, so I can try that thing :)
[14:25] <cson> theadmin: thanks for the push.  xubuntu has freed up my cores.
[14:25] <cson> I can even watch vlc full screen now.
[14:35] <Josh______> hohoho
[14:36] <bgardner> Josh______: Couple months too early.
[14:37] <Josh______> Wouldn't think it with the weather here, freezing cold, frost in the mornings, raining every day... Perfect excuse for me :)
[14:37] <Josh______> Might be looking for some advice in the next few minutes, trying to get Xubuntu set up on a server, since the Ubuntu Server kernel kept crashing
[14:39] <TheSheep> Josh______: they both use the same kernel
[14:42] <Josh______> They do, but there is something about the installer causing the kernel to crash
[14:43] <Josh______> I'm not to most advanced kernel / bios / linux user in the world. In fact, I've barely touched on it, but the company is bringing in some servers so I'm hoping I can acquire the knowledge I need as I go along
[15:01] <Jonatan1> Hi
[15:01] <Jonatan1> I need some help installing drivers
[15:21] <Josh______> Anyone know something similar to ethtool which is installed by default on xubuntu?
[15:25] <Poisoned_Dragon> why not just install ethtool?
[15:52] <rawrmonster> does gcc come with xubuntu by default? (from the install disk)
[15:55] <Poisoned_Dragon> I think so.
[15:56] <Poisoned_Dragon> how else are you going to compile
[15:56] <Poisoned_Dragon> actually, that's silly. There are a number of compilers.
[15:57] <rawrmonster> I didn't know because it was a binary distro. I was thinking that they might try and save space on the disk.
[15:57] <genii> Since it's a dependency of build-essential I imagine it's on the disc
[15:58] <rawrmonster> I know i have it on my work machine but it is connected to the internet where my home machine does not have internet atm.
[15:59] <rawrmonster> But thank so you much for your guys help :D
[16:14] <kRush> is there an extra channel for saucy?
[16:14] <Pici> #ubuntu+1
[16:15] <xubuntuuser> Hola Hi
[16:15] <kRush> so nothing xubuntu specific?
[16:16] <Poisoned_Dragon> not that I know of.
[16:16] <kRush> kk, thx
[16:27] <genii> kRush: #ubuntu+1 is a catch-all for all the distributions... Xubuntu, Lubuntu, Kubuntu, etc, so long as they are on Saucy
[18:55] <nicklas_> hello, never done an upgrade before, but thought id try when 13.10 is available. what is the differences from reinstalling instead, what changes and what doesnt change?
[19:01] <nicklas_> like this from the beta announcement: "66A tool for changing your theme colors easily, gtk-theme-config, has been added to the default installation" . will that get installed when upgrading, and the new version of everything with all improvements/preinstalled apps/functions in new version?
[19:04] <Unit193> It'll get pulled in with xubuntu-desktop, aye.
[19:05] <nicklas_> also, can stuff ive installed get removed? and reposes removed?
[19:07] <Unit193> It'd only get removed if it conflicted or was dropped out of the repos, doesn't normally remove much/anything.  Repos in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ get commented out, but easy enough to re-enable.
[19:07] <Unit193> Depending on how you upgrade, it'll show you everything it's updating, installing, or removing.
[19:32] <xubuntu362> can somebody help me some of my hardware is too new for the kernel so i can't operate xubuntu is there any solution?
[19:33] <xubuntu362> the problems are that the graphical card and the wireless network card don't work like it should be.
[19:37] <baizon> xubuntu362: what hardware, and which version of xubuntu?
[19:42] <xubuntu362> the latest version
[19:42] <xubuntu362> graphic card and wireless network card
[19:43] <baizon> xubuntu362: which hardware vendor?
[19:43] <baizon> we need more details
[19:44] <xubuntu362> the older versions 12 are running fine except the wireless card but they run the others don't
[19:44] <xubuntu362> wireless ac 7260 intel
[19:44] <xubuntu362> and nvidea graphic card
[19:45] <baizon> xubuntu362: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[19:45] <xubuntu362> yeah but the installer won't drive either
[19:46] <baizon> xubuntu362: http://askubuntu.com/questions/322511/no-wireless-with-intel-centrino-advanced-n-7260
[19:47] <xubuntu362> when I want to install the newest version ( kernel ) the only thing I get is a black screen
[19:47] <xubuntu362> after choosing start xubuntu
[20:24] <dunpeal> Hi. Is there a way to remove window decoration for any window?
[20:24] <dunpeal> (The title bar, basically.)
[20:26] <genii> !info maximus
[20:27] <Azelphur> dunpeal: all windows, or a specific one?
[20:27] <dunpeal> Azelphur: a specific one.
[20:27] <Azelphur> devilspie then, maximus does all windows afaik
[20:27] <Azelphur> there's a frontend, gdevilspie, that's probably what you'll want to install
[20:27] <dunpeal> Azelphur: no way to just do it manually for one window?
[20:28] <Azelphur> dunpeal: oh, just as a one off?
[20:28] <dunpeal> devilspie is a persistent service
[20:28] <dunpeal> Azelphur: yeah, pretty much :)
[20:28] <Azelphur> devilspie is like rules, eg if I open XBMC, it takes the title bar off, that's what I use it for
[20:28] <Azelphur> ah, I think wmctrl can do it one off
[20:28] <dunpeal> cool, thanks.
[20:28] <Azelphur> dunpeal: it has a toggle fullscreen, but not a toggle decorated it seems
[20:30] <dunpeal> Azelphur: do you know if there's any tool that can customize the display icon of a process?
[20:30] <dunpeal> The icon displayed in the alt-tab application switcher?
[20:30] <Azelphur> dunpeal: that I doubt, that's set inside the application.
[20:30] <dunpeal> KDE/Qt can sometimes override it
[20:30] <Azelphur> dunpeal: I could probably make you a little python to do the decorations thing, if you wanted though
[20:30] <dunpeal> but I understand :)
[20:31] <dunpeal> Azelphur: thanks, but don't trouble yourself, I can do it myself. you were going to use wcnk?
[20:31] <Azelphur> dunpeal: indeed.
[20:31] <dunpeal> wnck*
[20:31] <dunpeal> Azelphur: do you have any idea if it's possible to maximize a window across more than one monitor?
[20:32] <Azelphur> dunpeal: absolutely, I do it all the time
[20:32] <Azelphur> I play WoW dual screen xD
[20:32] <Azelphur> I do it with devilspie just by setting the window size to the size of both of my monitors
[20:32] <Azelphur> and the location to 0,0
[20:33] <dunpeal> cool. btw, looks like devilspie was abandoned, so are you using devilspie 2?
[20:33] <Azelphur> nope, I'm just using standard gdevilspie, it's still in the repos and works fine
[20:33] <Azelphur> didn't know there was a devilspie 2 :)
[20:34] <dunpeal> https://wiki.gnome.org/DevilsPie
[20:34] <dunpeal> Note that Devil's Pie isn't really maintained - you may be more interested in the successor project Devil's Pie 2.
[20:34] <Azelphur> cool :)
[20:35] <dunpeal> thanks a lot, you've been very helpful
[20:35] <Azelphur> np
[20:35] <dunpeal> I had a few other questions, not sure if I'm going overboard, but I'm an XFCE newbie
[20:35] <Azelphur> dunpeal: might wanna check out xdotool too, that has some related stuff that may be interested
[20:36] <dunpeal> for example, xfconf-query queries some kind of a database, but where is that database located?
[20:36] <dunpeal> e.g. when I use "$ xfconf-query -c xfce4-keyboard-shortcuts --create"
[20:36] <dunpeal> where on the disk is the new entry added?
[20:36] <Azelphur> dunpeal: ~/.config/xfce4/xfconf
[20:36] <Azelphur> I think
[20:37] <dunpeal> Azelphur: yup, it's in XML files there!  thanks again.
[20:37] <Azelphur> yw :)
[21:38] <evan_> hi i have a problem installing on a power PC, if anyone would mind lending me a hand....
[21:39] <genii> !ppc
[22:51] <evan_> !PPC