[01:28] <AskUbuntu> First Ubuntu Touch devices | http://askubuntu.com/q/353874
[07:44] <AskUbuntu> Music app missing from Ubuntu Touch | http://askubuntu.com/q/353949
[08:30] <AskUbuntu> Ubuntu & Android question | http://askubuntu.com/q/353958
[09:30] <lool> slangasek: tried to find things keeping / rw, did lsof > lsof and grep 'root.*[0-9]w.*/' lsof | grep -v /var/log | grep -v /dev, only getting results in /run/systemd, /sys/kernel/debug, /var/lib/NetworkManager, lsof output file itself
[09:33] <ogra_> lool, oh, i actually noticed that my first bootchart always has an fsck (usually i flash freshly, make the fs rw, install bootchart and reboot, the second chart doesnt have fsck actions anymore)
[09:33] <ogra_> that might be related
[09:34] <lool> ogra_: related to staying rw?
[09:34] <lool> or to corruption?
[09:35] <ogra_> well, i think it is related to the switch from ro to rw
[09:35] <lool> ogra_: what's clear is that shutdown/reboot doesn't clearly unmount everything, it must be blocked by something; if I could at least track what's preventing me from remounting ro, I could avoid the issue in testing
[09:35] <lool> ogra_: maybe, maybe we'd have the same issue on rw
[09:36] <ogra_> if you boot ro it might be that stephane just skips unmounting (why would he need it, its all ro)
[09:36] <ogra_> so if you switch your first shutdown might inherit that behavior
[09:37] <ogra_> or something like that
[10:17] <lool> ogra_: We're still going through shutdown sequence; also keep in mind the ro and rw filesystems in the ro image are all backed up by a single rw fs!
[10:18] <lool> this latter one needs clean unmounting
[11:28] <iKillCypher> Hello Sup
[11:39] <tinti> hi, is still possible to build ubuntu 13.04 phablet?
[11:40] <tinti> popey: ping
[11:40] <popey> tinti: pong
[11:40] <tinti> how are you doing?
[11:41] <tinti> I am playing with ubuntu touch but I would like to try building the old desktop fashion
[11:41] <popey> the desktop as in, with x?
[11:45] <tinti> yes
[11:45] <tinti> I mean
[11:45] <tinti> the 13.04
[11:45] <tinti> I need to modify its kernel to allow it to charge and be OTG at the same time
[11:46] <tinti> Timur's patch has already done almost all of this
[11:46] <tinti> http://mehrvarz.github.io/nexus-7-usbrom/
[11:51] <popey> I don't know, sorry
[11:51] <popey> We don't work on that anymore, now we're on touch
[12:00] <tinti> yes I know, I tried to convince the people to move to it, but they said that for know they need to prove that it works on raring
[12:00] <tinti> thank you anyway, seems that the wiki has some info
[12:00] <tinti> BTW, very well explained !!! :) https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Porting
[13:52] <AskUbuntu> Trouble installing Ubuntu Touch on Nexus 4 | http://askubuntu.com/q/354051
[13:58] <luxigo> Hi, any repo for php5 ?... i have problems with 5.3.3-1 after upgrade...  theres no alternative version (apt-cache showpkg php5)  and i cannot find a ppa for arm ...
[14:02] <_polto_> hi
[14:06] <luxigo> hi :-)
[14:06] <popey> luxigo: is this on laptop/desktop/server? if so you probably want #ubuntu
[14:07] <luxigo> no, it's on _polto_ 's tablet
[14:07] <popey> luxigo: running what?
[14:08] <luxigo> ubuntu-touch ...
[14:08] <popey> which tablet?
[14:08] <popey> and running what build?
[14:09] <popey> apt-cache search php5 shows lots of packages
[14:11] <luxigo> sorry phone
[14:21] <luxigo> i mean _polto_ 's phone is busy :-)
[14:32] <Wendigo> Hey, I want to know if Ubuntu Touch is compatible with Linux apps and if we can do the same as with Ubuntu for Android and get a full desktop when plugged to a TV or a computer screen
[14:32] <Wendigo> I actually own a Nexus 4
[14:32] <popey> Wendigo: not yet
[14:33] <Wendigo> Okay
[14:39] <Wendigo> And is there an ETA for it? Or it's not going to be publicly available?
[15:19] <Pinak> hello.,.,I have some questions
[15:20] <smartboyhw> !ask | Pinak
[15:20] <Pinak> I want to update my android ICS to Ubuntu tablet os.... how to do so??
[15:20] <popey> Pinak: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Install
[15:20] <smartboyhw> Pinak, which device are you running?
[15:21] <Pinak> its an MERCURY Mtab7. 1.2 ghz. Dual core porocessor. 512mb ram, 4 gm memory
[15:21] <smartboyhw> Hmm
[15:21] <smartboyhw> (Not even sure does that device have a CM port)
[15:22] <Pinak> yap it has.
[15:22] <smartboyhw> Pinak, oh great
[15:22] <Pinak> well i need the setup file.. where to find it?
[15:23] <smartboyhw> Setup file?
[15:23] <Pinak> ubuntu os???
[15:23] <Pinak> the flashing file
[15:24] <smartboyhw> Pinak, em, even if you flash it directly it won't work
[15:24] <smartboyhw> It needs porting from CM to Ubuntu Touch
[15:25] <Pinak> well i read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Install this thing....getting confused
[15:25] <smartboyhw> Pinak, it's stock instructions for a limited number of officially supported devices
[15:26] <Pinak> welll how to add PPA???
[15:26] <smartboyhw> Can't see your device in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Devices
[15:26] <Pinak> if u have any pdf or somthing....it can help me out here
[15:26] <smartboyhw> Pinak, just run the command in the wiki page in a terminal?
[15:27] <Pinak> cntrl + alt + t.. dsnt working bro
[15:28] <smartboyhw> Pinak, what operating system are you running, first of all?
[15:28] <Pinak> well i am using windows 8 here
[15:28] <smartboyhw> Uh oh
[15:28] <smartboyhw> Pinak, please install Ubuntu desktop....
[15:28] <popey> Wait!
[15:28] <popey> Pinak: your device isn't supported yet
[15:29] <smartboyhw> (I did say the device isn't supported...)
[15:29] <popey> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Devices lists what is
[15:29] <popey> yeah, but if it's not supported there's no point installing the ppa or indeed ubuntu
[15:29] <Pinak> hmm.,in that case...i will talk u guys later.. thnx a lot...
[15:29] <popey> (other than the excellent reasons for installing ubuntu)
[15:29] <smartboyhw> popey, actually, I don't see an official CM port of that device too..........
[16:57] <slangasek> lool: how about: sudo fuser -vm / 2>&1 | grep F ?
[17:09] <lool> slangasek: thanks, will try that next time
[17:09] <lool> "fuser" is the command I was trying to remember
[18:37] <timppa> Hi, is there an irc channel for ubuntu touch app development questions? Or is this the right place?
[18:38] <popey> timppa: #ubuntu-app-devel
[18:39] <timppa> popey: thanks!
[18:46] <timppa> popey: Should GPS work on touch on latest build?
[18:51] <popey> timppa: yes, but takes a long time to lock
[18:52] <timppa> popey: how long? Like really really long? :)
[18:54] <timppa> popey: either my code does not work or it takes literally ages to lock. Is there any way to see GPS output before it locks?
[19:01] <nhaines> Without AGPS data, GPS usually takes 2-5 minutes to lock.
[19:01] <nhaines> I guess my question is, does any core app use GPS?  :)
[19:02] <timppa> In that case my code does not work...
[19:02] <nhaines> I also wonder what was in update 82, but those questions really are better served before I start the update anyway.  ;)
[19:05] <timppa> nhaines: that would be nice to know yes
[19:06] <timppa> nhaines: it's a shame that http://people.canonical.com/~j-lallement/touch/changes/ has not been updated anymore
[19:09] <nhaines> timppa: the mailing list does have some beautiful update wrapups, though.
[19:11] <timppa> nhaines: They were awesome when Didier Roche wrote them. Was there an update from the latest build?
[19:16] <nhaines> timppa: no, but he's on vacation until Thursday.  Someone else is supposed to be writing them now.
[19:16] <timppa> nhaines: ok
[19:19] <nhaines> I wish they could get Mir up and running.  It'd be nice to be able to show friends *something* where it's running.
[19:20] <nhaines> Mir's a desktop requirement for click apps, too.  Input isolation if I recall.
[19:24] <popey> timppa: the person who updates that page had a system outage, it'll get updated in due course
[19:30] <timppa> popey: That's awesome!
[21:17] <Shakyj_> Hey, I have a p5110 and want to put UT on it but the only doc I can see for it is on Xda-dev forum from feb. Should I just follow the standard install on the wiki or is that only going to work for Nexus spins
[21:27] <popey> Shakyj_: only for nexus and community supported devices
[21:49] <nicenslow> hey yall ' ....
[22:19] <p8triot> can UT only be installed using Ubuntu Desktop?
[22:19] <p8triot> or can I flash it using OS X?
[22:21] <p8triot> I have a Nexus 4 can i flash with CWM?
[22:22] <p8triot> ?
[22:24] <p8triot> can UT only be installed using Ubuntu Desktop??
[22:24] <p8triot> or can I flash it using OS X?
[23:25] <UFeindschiff> Hi, I've got a problem. Just did a manual install of Ubuntu Touch on my Galaxy Nexus. Works fine atm and looks great, but I have a problem accessing my device using ssh. I've installed openssh-server and ssh using the adb shell, but port 22 is still closed. I've already restarted the ssh service and also rebooted the device, but nmap still says that port 22 is closed. Is anyone here able to help me ou?
[23:41] <UFeindschiff> fixed my problem.