[07:33] <kbmonkey> morning all
[07:35] <nlsthzn> o/
[07:37] <kbmonkey> I pulled out the netbook this morning, did some updates, and decided to install a graphical web browser. yee-haa
[07:37] <kbmonkey> one called surf. it uses webkit.
[07:46] <nlsthzn> congrats
[07:47]  * nlsthzn will be back later
[07:48] <kbmonkey> hello
[07:48] <Kilos> hi kbmonkey
[07:48] <kbmonkey> hoe ganit?
[07:49] <Kilos> nie te sleg nie dankie en self?
[07:49] <kbmonkey> lekker
[07:50] <kbmonkey> I am playing with neodymium ball magnets. they are so strong
[07:51] <Kilos> hehe
[08:22] <Kilos> hmm... he ran outa space
[08:28] <kbmonkey> lol
[08:28] <kbmonkey> i've run out of energy.
[08:29] <kbmonkey> be back a bit later
[08:31] <Kilos> k
[10:42] <nlsthzn> morning uncle Kilos 
[10:42] <Kilos> hiya nlsthzn
[10:42] <nlsthzn> hope you got some biltong and naartjies ready
[10:43] <Kilos> hehe biltong is outa reach
[10:43] <nlsthzn> :(
[10:43] <Kilos> could be a good game i think
[10:43] <nlsthzn> I hope so...
[10:44] <nlsthzn> we must just win... I don't care about the chamionship
[10:44] <Kilos> quite a task set for the boks to overcome the number 1 team in the world hey
[10:45] <nlsthzn> well, if any team can do it you would have to imagine it is the number 2 team :)
[10:45] <charl_> good afternoon
[10:45] <charl_> hi nlsthzn 
[10:45] <charl_> hi Kilos 
[10:45] <Kilos> more than 4 tries and must win by more than 7 points
[10:45] <Kilos> hi charl_
[10:45] <nlsthzn> and not let them score 4 tried either
[10:45] <nlsthzn> hello charl_ 
[10:45] <nlsthzn> *tries
[10:46] <Kilos> ?
[10:46] <Kilos> try's
[10:46] <Kilos> them things
[10:46] <Kilos> druk n drie wat 5 punte tel
[10:47] <nlsthzn> possible 7 of them points things
[10:47] <nlsthzn> :p
[10:47] <Kilos> hehe
[10:47] <nlsthzn> I will again miss the first half :/ as I will be coming from work... 
[10:48] <nlsthzn> but at least I get to see the important bit
[10:48] <Kilos> ai!
[10:49] <nlsthzn> I am not in the channel enough these days... so many names I don't recognize :p
[10:50] <Kilos> ya new peeps been popping up
[10:50] <Kilos> lekker
[10:50] <Kilos> tell me about ssd drives
[10:50] <nlsthzn> they are fast
[10:50] <nlsthzn> expensive
[10:50] <Kilos> where do they plugin?
[10:51] <Kilos> normal sata port. i googled and it said sata3
[10:51] <nlsthzn> Sound right
[10:51] <nlsthzn> *sounds
[10:51] <nlsthzn> they will need high throughput or they are pointless
[10:51] <Kilos> ian told me he found a site in china that sells 500g sdd's for 15$
[10:51] <nlsthzn> you get what you pay for
[10:51] <Kilos> so whats a sata3 then
[10:52] <Kilos> another kind of port
[10:52] <nlsthzn> you use sata to connect your hdd
[10:52] <nlsthzn> and then sata 2 came out which had more bandwidth
[10:52] <nlsthzn> and I have to assume sata 3 even more
[10:52] <nlsthzn> not sure if there is a physical difference between 2 and 3
[10:53] <Kilos> so that means anoth m/board then?
[10:53] <nlsthzn> depending on the age of the old one, yes
[10:53] <nlsthzn> you using sata or ide?
[10:53] <Kilos> sata
[10:53] <Kilos> dual core p4
[10:54] <Kilos> also ian is scared that site is a scam place
[10:54] <nlsthzn> may be, or just poor quality
[10:54] <nlsthzn> last thing you want to do is loose your data
[10:54] <nlsthzn> sata 3 seems to be backwards compatible with sata 2...
[10:55] <Kilos> you cant fight someone in china from here if they dont send stuff after you have deposited the money
[10:55] <nlsthzn> but there is sata 3.1 and sata 3.2 specifications already too now
[10:55] <nlsthzn> yup
[10:55] <Kilos> eish
[10:55] <nlsthzn> and if they send you crap your still stuck with it
[10:55] <Kilos> yeah
[10:56] <nlsthzn> I would be weary of the place
[10:56] <Kilos> yeah
[10:56] <nlsthzn> SSD are still much more expensive than normal HDD
[11:01] <charl_> is there anyone here that knows if/how netflix runs on ubuntu
[11:02] <charl_> on the site they say "pc and mac" but it's never clear what they mean under "pc" - does that mean "windows"?
[11:05] <charl_> after some googling it seems like the best way would be to add a ppa and then you can launch a kind of application
[11:05] <charl_> but in the comments some people seem to be having problems
[11:06] <charl_> i never understand why these people can't just implement html5
[11:06] <charl_> stream videos over webm or something
[11:07] <charl_> i'm not exactly tempted to pay 8 euro per months for this
[11:10] <Kilos> bbl
[11:18] <nlsthzn> charl_, I know there was a way... if it is still possible I don't know
[11:18] <nlsthzn> as for not using html5 it has to do with DRM
[11:19] <nlsthzn> but I just read that the WC3 will start to make DRM a standard so expect it to becoming to everything on the web soon
[11:20] <charl_> that's terrible
[11:20] <nlsthzn> charl_, http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2013/01/how-to-watch-lovefilm-redbox-instant-or-netflix-on-ubuntu
[11:20] <charl_> the w3c just sold us out
[11:21] <charl_> drm is nonsense in any case and easily bypassed
[11:21] <nlsthzn> seems there is a modified wine thingy that can be used
[11:21] <nlsthzn> not always sure about easy but there normally is someone clever enough to do it :)
[11:21] <charl_> ooh but the performance is gonna suck right
[11:21] <charl_> on wine
[11:22] <nlsthzn> depends
[11:22] <nlsthzn> video not so demanding
[11:22] <charl_> i can't believe after all the negative sentiment about drm the w3c is actually going through with it
[11:22] <charl_> i know it has been an openstanding question for a long time
[11:22] <nlsthzn> also for your interest - https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2013/10/lowering-your-standards
[11:22] <charl_> video can be pretty demanding if it's high quality
[11:23] <charl_> i have an intel core i3 with hyperthreading in this laptop and it struggles to keep up with high quality 1080p mp4 video
[11:23] <charl_> then i should also add i use an intel hd graphics card so that might have something to do with it
[11:24] <charl_> i didn't want to use nvidia/radeon cause then i sit in driver mess again with linux
[11:24] <nlsthzn> well I don't know why your pc is struggling...
[11:24] <nlsthzn> it shouldn't 
[11:25] <nlsthzn> my phone doesn't
[11:25] <nlsthzn> my arm netbook does sure
[11:26]  * nlsthzn re-installed windows again on his desktop just because it is a nightmare to get native resolution on my monitor with nvidia drivers and linux... sucks
[11:35] <charl_> no for most of the time the video plays fine but then when you get a sudden action scene and a lot of pixels have to be drawn it starts to falter
[11:35] <charl_> but now we are talking high quality video with flac and what not
[11:35] <charl_> like 16gb for 1 hour of material for example
[11:36] <charl_> not an overcompressed low quality 1080p video
[11:36] <charl_> and even then 98% of the time the video plays fine
[11:37] <charl_> but the cpu use is *high*
[11:37] <charl_> i can literally hear the fan in the laptop blowing :P
[11:47] <charl_> great article up on eff - way to go
[11:51] <nlsthzn> you expecting 16gb worth of video from netflix ? :p
[11:52] <charl_> that's a good question
[11:52] <charl_> how good is their overall quality
[12:04] <nlsthzn> dunno...
[12:04] <nlsthzn> never used it as I am not in a country they support...
[12:04] <charl_> ok i should just sign up for a free trial and test it
[12:04] <charl_> but i know enough now, thanks !
[12:05] <nlsthzn> hope it works out for you :)
[13:58] <charl_> wb Kilos 
[13:58] <Kilos> ty charl_
[15:29] <charl_> bah apparently to do a trial on netflix you already need to give them all your banking details
[15:29] <charl_> i think i'll pass
[15:30] <charl_> read a review and the quality of the video leaves much to be desired
[15:30] <charl_> apparently it's slightly better than SD
[17:50] <Kilos> night all. sleep tight
[19:47] <charl_> hi Cantide 
[19:50] <Cantide> hello charl_ :)
[19:51] <charl_> how's it going
[19:54] <Cantide> well :)
[19:54] <Cantide> just busy packing frantically, so please excuse the delayed responses
[19:54] <Cantide> how about you?
[19:55] <charl_> good ! you going to korea?
[19:55] <charl_> visa sorted then?
[19:56] <Cantide> yup
[19:56] <Cantide> catching a plane in about 7 hours
[19:56] <Cantide> got the visa on Wednesday :)
[19:57] <charl_> congrats !
[19:57] <Cantide> thanks!
[19:57] <charl_> well i won't keep you out of your packing ! best of luck on your trip !
[19:57] <Cantide> it took a long time, then suddenly everything happened this week :)
[19:57] <charl_> yes when it happens it happens quickly, i know how it goes
[19:57] <Cantide> thanks, i'm having a brief coffee break though
[19:58] <charl_> cool
[19:58] <charl_> so you off to seoul?
[19:58] <Cantide> yeah
[19:58] <Cantide> going to be working in yeouido and probably staying in shinchon
[19:58] <Cantide> and off to gangnam for training on tuesday :)
[19:59] <charl_> lol !
[19:59] <charl_> on a horse? :P
[19:59] <charl_> sounds so exciting you must have a great time
[19:59] <charl_> i really want to visit the far east myself one day, never been
[20:02] <charl_> looking at the wikipedia page now, sinchon looks like a nice place to live
[20:05] <Cantide> yeah, i think it's mostly students who live in that area
[20:05] <Cantide> because of the universities around there
[20:05] <Cantide> should be fun :)
[20:05] <Cantide> well, depending on the apartment that i get, i might have a space on the floor / couch :p
[20:05] <Cantide> oooor, i have a friend that rents out a room for cheap :p i could hook you up :p
[20:07] <Cantide> this is the one http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sinchon-dong
[20:07] <Cantide> in case you found the wrong place on wikipedia :p
[20:09] <charl_> yes that's the one
[20:09] <Cantide> (assuming i find an apartment there)
[20:10] <charl_> lol very nice
[20:10] <Cantide> yeah, i've been there before - nice busy place :)
[20:11] <Cantide> okay, coffee is finished.. time to finish packing / sorting / storing >.<
[20:11] <charl_> good luck !
[20:11] <Cantide> thanks! I will lurk here while i pack :p
[21:48] <charl_> hi theblazehen 
[21:50] <theblazehen> hi charl_ 
[21:50] <theblazehen> whats new?
[21:51] <charl_> not much, recovering from a cold
[21:51] <charl_> you?
[21:52] <theblazehen> ah ok. I'm installing FreeBSD, thinking of going to bed while waiting for download to finish
[21:53] <theblazehen> night charl_ 
[21:53] <charl_> ciao !