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doug__Arch00:00
PinkSwingI have twin monitors with the larger of the two on the left. I've set the primary monitor to the one on the right as I use the larger monitor on the left for full screen things like a remote desktop session or watching video. But new windows always appear on the larger, secondary monitor on the left - often underneath whatever is fullscreen. I am trying to change this in CompizConfig Settings Manager but it doesn't seem to make any difference. Any ideas00:00
blzpmatulis_, I'm looking at the manpage... should my command just be something like `pvcreate /dev/sdb` ?00:00
_-Frustat3d-_Disk Utility crashes on 12.04 when trying to create ANY partition.00:02
pmatulis_blz: better describe you situation, what do you want to achieve?00:02
pmatulis_blz: add space to an existing logical volume?00:03
blzpmatulis_, I just set up a fresh server install with a LVM.  There is one volume group and one physical volume.  I just now added a fresh, unformatted drive, which I would like to add to the existing volume group00:03
wokkojust a test for new irssi theme can u hear me00:04
blzpmatulis_, I just realized the last part of my description was a bit confusing ^^.  I physically inserted a new, unformatted HDD into the case.  I'd like to extend the existing logical volume with that new HDD00:04
syntroPiwokko, roger roger00:04
wokkosyntroPi: cheers00:04
blzpmatulis_, as I understand the pvcreate manpage, the command should just be `sudo pvcreate /dev/sdb`.  Is that correct or am I misunderstanding something?00:04
pmatulis_blz: ① make the new drive (say /dev/sdb) a physical volume, or used fdisk to make a partition (say /dev/sda1), i usually do the latter00:05
pmatulis_blz: correction:00:05
pmatulis_blz: ① make the new drive (say /dev/sdb) a physical volume, or use fdisk to make a partition (say /dev/sdb1), i usually do the latter00:05
blzpmatulis_, is there any real difference between those two options?  Will the volume perform differently?00:06
pmatulis_blz: no00:06
* Dr_Willis looks to see where his ① key is at..00:06
pmatulis_blz: ② then extend your volume group with 'vgextend' command00:06
pmatulis_blz: ③ then extend your logical volume with 'lvextend' command00:07
blzpmatulis_, okay cool.  As for step  ① (yay, unicode!) which command should I use to make a /dev/sdb1 partition.  The usual fdisk?00:07
pmatulis_blz: ④ then unmount the existing logical volume00:08
pmatulis_blz: ⑤ then perform a file system check with something like 'e2fsck'00:08
blzpmatulis_, ok.  Should I be using fdisk for step 1?00:09
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blzI ask because I'm getting a dire warning about my volume being too large for the DOS partition table format00:09
blzand I'm a bit unsure of how to proceed00:10
pmatulis_ah, how big is the drive?00:10
blzpmatulis_, 3 TB00:10
syntroPiblz afaik mbr is only for something below 2 TB00:11
syntroPiyou need gpt maybe?00:11
syntroPiuse parted00:11
pmatulis_blz: use gdisk00:11
syntroPieven better00:11
pmatulis_blz: 6. extend your file system with the appropriate tool.  you haven't said what f/s format you're using00:12
pmatulis_blz: 7. mount the logical volume00:13
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dezineHey everyone. I have a Samsung Chromebook, with Ubuntu installed on it. I'm just wondering if there's anyway to install Chrome on it, since it's an ARM processor I can't just use the i386 one. Thanks.00:15
gmachine_24Hi. I'm on an Ubuntu 12.04LTS desktop that I use as a music server - and I'd like to be able to get access to it from my other computers - Linux and Windows. Samba is installed and I can stream music - but cannot connect remotely or even, on Windows machines, see that files are being shared.00:18
ShadowBlaze18are you allowed to use Ubuntu's trademarks to label a pc that is being sold that has Ubuntu on it?00:18
gmachine_24sshserver and client are also installed00:18
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repudiateI don't think kTouch installed properly Dr_Willis00:18
repudiateIt's missing menus on the top.00:19
gmachine_24ShadowBlaze18: I think so but if you want to legal skinny perhaps contact Canonical00:19
repudiateDo I have to dl a KDE?!00:19
gmachine_24ShadowBlaze18: they used to give away stick-ons and stuff00:19
repudiateDr_Willis: nevermind00:20
repudiategot it00:20
wxlhey folks. autofs question: i have a sshfs set up to mount to /mnt. i'm trying to script changing this to /mnt/autofs. so i turn the service off, change auto.master, turn the service back on, and everything is good. only problem: i can't touch /mnt until i reboot. wtf?00:21
PinkSwingI have twin monitors. New windows and notifications always appear on the left monitor despite the fact that I have the right monitor set as the primary monitor. How can I change this?00:25
daftykinsPinkSwing: honest advice? swap graphics outputs00:25
PinkSwingdaftykins: I cant do that. One is HDMI and the other is VGA00:26
jahaCan anyone help me get upstart user sessions/jobs working on 13.04 server00:27
jahaive also installed the lubuntu-core desktop00:27
daftykinsPinkSwing: ah :/00:27
ShadowBlaze18tahnk you gmachine_2400:28
ShadowBlaze18*thank00:28
Dr_Willisrepudiate:  overlooked the Unity Global menus ;) they can hide at the top ;P00:30
repudiateyepp00:31
Dr_Willisi thought upstart had to habve user sessions compiled in as an option. and tht was not a default option (at least it dident used to be)00:31
Dr_WillisThe upstart cookbook mentioned user sessions.00:31
Dr_Willisor user 'jobs' i guess is the proper ter,00:32
Dr_Willisterm00:32
Dr_WillisHmm. 13.10 has a ~/.config/upstart/   wonder if that means the feature is now enabled by default on 13.1000:33
bigbadbenWhy is html5 DRM a bad thing00:34
julian-delphikiDr_Willis, whenever i hear "cookbook" I just thing Chef00:34
Dr_Willisbigbadben:  drm is a bad thing.00:35
julian-delphikibigbadben, that's not a question for this channel.00:35
Dr_Willisbigbadben:  because html5 viddeo that works on windows.. may not work on linux, or my Pi. or my android.. if the drm is not supported.00:35
jahaDr_Willis: i followed the instructions to enable the "tech preview" of user sessions by uncommenting #ubuntu in /etc/upstart-xesseions, restrated and nothing changed00:35
Dr_Willisjaha:  ive never used the feature. ive only rember reading about it in the docs.00:36
jahaDr_Willis: thought maybe im missing something since I didnt install the full ubuntu desktop00:36
jahagotcha, thanks00:36
ShadowBlaze18gmachine_24, if you were selling the hardware and you just label the pc as having Ubuntu do you think that still counts as merchandising purposes?00:36
blzsyntroPi, pmatulis_ , sorry my internet crapped out =/00:36
bigbadbenjulian-delphiki, but ubuntu is open source and wouldn't it be considered bad for open source, then also bad for ubuntu00:36
julian-delphikibigbadben, this is an ubuntu support channel00:37
blzpmatulis_, do I need to mount the newly created /dev/sdb1 partition before running vgextend?00:37
julian-delphikiblz, no00:37
pmatulis_blz: follow my steps00:37
blzpmatulis_, Okay, I'm just not very clear on step 4.  You said I should unmount the existing logical volume, but my google-fu is failing me.  What command should I use for that?00:40
rastimhiii, , ,00:40
ravenHey guys00:40
rastimhiii, ,  , i'm rastim ,00:41
pmatulis_blz: well, what is the logical volume's path? 'sudo lvscan'00:41
julian-delphikiblz, is it your root volume?00:41
julian-delphikiare we just resizing and LVM00:41
julian-delphikior what00:41
julian-delphiki(/me does that about once a month)00:41
blzjulian-delphiki, yes00:41
ravenDoes anyone know how to help me with installing windows alongside an already existing linux partition?00:41
blzjulian-delphiki, yeah I'm trying to add a new disk (physical volume) to my lvm00:42
julian-delphikiah okay00:42
julian-delphikiso did you pvcreate on the new drive?00:42
blzjulian-delphiki, so I added a partition using gdisk and then formatted it as ext4 with mkfs.ext4 from e2fsutils00:42
blzthen I did a pvextend /dev/sdb00:43
rastimhelp me for how instaling modem in ubuntu 12.04 ??00:43
pmatulis_blz: i don't remember saying to format your disk00:43
blzsorry, vgextend00:43
blzpmatulis_, hmm that might explain my troubles ...00:43
julian-delphikiblz, okay, so, now when you vgdisplay you should see that your volume group has more extents now00:43
ravenWindows setup says it can't install to the unallocated space even when I format it NTFS00:43
pmatulis_blz: anyway, good luck.  looks like julian-delphiki will help you00:44
blzpmatulis_, thanks for your help!  sorry for being dense!00:44
julian-delphikipmatulis_, yeah I will.00:44
blzjulian-delphiki, =)00:44
PsyMarraven: Do you have 4 partitions on the drive already?00:44
blzjulian-delphiki, okay so, it's probably best we start over since I evidently did something wrong.  Should I pastebin vgdisplay?00:44
julian-delphikisure00:45
blzjulian-delphiki, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6194645/00:45
ravenPsyMar, I've got Mint, Ubuntu, swap space, and unallocated00:45
wonderfulmeI somewhat fucked up00:45
PsyMarraven: bootloader?00:45
daftykinsraven: sounds like you're trying to install when you've already got too many primary partitions and you're attempting to put Windows into a logical one00:45
julian-delphikialright, blz, so far so good. You want to add all of that disk to your existing LVM yeah?00:45
daftykinsraven: can you pastebin/screenshot your partition setup?00:45
blzjulian-delphiki, yep! the whole thing00:46
julian-delphikiblz, do you know what the name of your LVM is?00:46
ravendaftykins can you explain to me the difference between a logical and a primary? Give me a moment let me take a picture of my machine with my phone00:46
wonderfulmeis there an IRCOP here?00:46
fancyfetusguys, I'm getting errors left and right from ubuntu.00:46
blzjulian-delphiki, should be monolith-vg.  I don't think I have any others00:46
fancyfetusIt's getting pretty hard to live with at this point.00:46
blzjulian-delphiki, this is an lvm that I set up with the installer, btw00:46
blzSo I think it named my LVM for me based on the hostname (monolith)00:47
wonderfulmewould they PLEASE cycle #Russian00:47
daftykinsraven: it'd need to be more detail than Windows setup will provide, so it'd ideally be from fdisk on Linux or gparted00:47
wonderfulmewhich is invite only due to an asshole00:47
PsyMarfancyfetus: I had that problem, I was running 32-bit ubuntu on a 64-bit machine was probably be the problem00:47
wonderfulmeI only need one nickname.00:47
IdleOne!language | wonderfulme00:47
ubottuwonderfulme: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family-friendly, polite, and professional.00:47
julian-delphikiblz, okay, so, run `lvextend -l+715408 /dev/mapper/monolith-vg`00:47
fancyfetusPsyMar, nope, amd64 on a 64 bit system.00:47
fancyfetusMy battery basically stopped functioning with ubuntu, I get xorg errors constantly, I can't even switch my graphics card problems00:47
wonderfulmebadhole, you win.00:47
ravendaftykins i used gparted to reduce the size of my ubuntu partition and make unallocated space00:47
daftykinsok00:48
fancyfetusI get I can't even switch my graphics card drivers*00:48
blzjulian-delphiki, I'm getting "Volume group monolith not found"00:48
blzI think the dash is throwing it off...00:48
daftykinsraven: upping a screen of that would be good00:48
julian-delphikiblz, okay, do an lvdisplay then00:48
julian-delphikiand pastebin it00:48
fancyfetusAnd apparently my computer is full of packages with errors in them.00:48
ravendaftykins give me a moment stay tuned I'm waiting for windows setup to load again (takes forever) and I'll show you what it sees00:48
gmachine_24ShadowBlaze18: I don't see how Canonical would care if you attach an Ubuntu sticker to a computer you're selling but if there's any potential legal problem just contact them. If you're selling a LOT of computers then you might have to add a sticker00:48
fancyfetussudo apt-get install -f encounters errors when I try to run it.00:48
PsyMaranyway, I am trying to use openDNS under Ubuntu 12.04, but it seems to be ignoring my dns settings and using my ISP's dns -- can someone help me figure out what I'm doing wrong?00:48
daftykinsraven: like i say, windows setup doesn't provide enough partition information00:48
blzjulian-delphiki, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6194659/00:49
julian-delphikifancyfetus, sounds like you should reinstall assuming your data isnt too precious00:49
fancyfetusjulian-delphiki, I reinstalled a few times, actually.00:49
gmachine_24PsyMar: when you say "it" what are you referring to?00:49
fancyfetusnot recently.00:49
wonderfulmeyou do realize that this whole "linux on a desktop" pipe dream is just that, do you?00:49
PsyMarFirefox.00:49
blzfancyfetus, -f is the `fail` flag.  It's telling apt-fast to fail00:49
julian-delphikiblz, ah, ok. `lvextend -l+715408 /dev/monolith-vg/root`00:49
* blz ducks :D00:49
julian-delphikiwonderfulme, stop00:49
Dr_Willislinux basically is on all my desktops.00:49
blzfancyfetus, that was a joke, btw =)00:50
gmachine_24PsyMar: well you change your dns settings in your router00:50
wonderfulmejulian-delphiki I need someone to restore her nickname00:50
ShadowBlaze18gmachine_24, I might contact them, but I'm probably being paranoid. I'm guessing it's for large companies and they just don't want you mis-representing Ubuntu00:50
fancyfetusblz, I believed you for a second :P00:50
wonderfulmeso I'm going to be an ass00:50
gmachine_24via a browser00:50
julian-delphikiwonderfulme, this is the ubuntu channel, nothing to do with freenode.00:50
PsyMargmachine: not under network connections?00:50
blzwonderfulme, enjoy bantown00:50
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wonderfulmejulian-delphiki stop. what?00:50
gmachine_24PsyMar: no. on you rbrowser00:50
gmachine_24er, router00:50
gmachine_24sorry00:50
julian-delphikiwonderfulme, with your unrelated-to-ubuntu-support talk00:50
wonderfulmewonderfulme using hitchcock.freenode.net Sofia, BG, EU00:50
PsyMarI was hoping to change it for just my computer, but ok, thanks00:50
ShadowBlaze18gmachine_24, and I mean't just adding a sign in public view that says it comes with Ubuntu00:50
blzjulian-delphiki, okay I'm getting "Logical volume root successfully resized"  Sounds like a win =)00:50
gmachine_24PsyMar: so you do http://192.168.x.x and log in to the router and find the settings, etc.00:51
fancyfetusSo is there anything I can try to do before reinstalling and losing everything?00:51
PsyMarright00:51
julian-delphikiblz, yep, now comes the long part! we need to resize your partition.00:51
wonderfulmejulian-delphiki I'm not sure what's to talk about. it works. yay.00:51
blzjulian-delphiki, I'm all ears00:51
PsyMarfancyfetus: you could try to get your files off onto a thumbdrive?00:51
gmachine_24ShawdowBlaze18: as I said, I can't imagine that they care but just email them; I'm sure they're happy to answer quickly00:51
fancyfetusPsyMar, I mean are there any other solutions.00:51
cvtsxHello00:52
julian-delphikiblz, "resize2fs /dev/monolith-vg/root" in one terminal. In another terminal run "watch -n0 df -h"00:52
wonderfulmeslackware 3.2 back in 96 used to work, too. big deal.00:52
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julian-delphikiwonderfulme, come on, this is a channel for helping people with ubuntu.00:52
fancyfetusIf i'm going to install, I'll reinstall windows.00:52
julian-delphikiyou're being less than useful00:52
PsyMarwonderfulme, this is not a channel for asking for IRCop help00:52
gmachine_24fancyfetus, what version of ubuntu are you running?00:52
wonderfulmejulian-delphiki redirect them to Windows 8.000:53
fancyfetus13.0400:53
cvtsx12.0400:53
blzjulian-delphiki, cool.  What's this `watch` sorcery?  I've never seen that00:53
julian-delphikiwonderfulme, no thanks, now please leave.00:53
julian-delphikiblz, it repeatedly runs a command and displays the output00:53
julian-delphiki:)00:53
gmachine_24fancyfetus - if you have files you want to save to you can boot from a live CD and then copy whatever to a thumb drive00:53
cvtsxAnyone ever try to run visual studio in wine?00:53
ShadowBlaze18alright, thank you gmachine_2400:53
blzjulian-delphiki, very cool =)  It also turns out the long part was about 6 seconds long... one of the benefits of a fresh install00:53
julian-delphikiblz, you should now see the 'free space' growing on your watch screen00:54
julian-delphikiah nice.00:54
gmachine_24fancyfetus: have you checked your hard drive for errors? is it a new hd?00:54
wonderfulmejulian-delphiki no really, you've got yourselves a bunch of "I want my linux" degenerates. then their parents come back and see the clusterfuck00:54
gmachine_24ShadowBlaze18: :-)00:54
julian-delphikiwonderfulme, sorry, my parents live at their house, not mine.00:54
ShadowBlaze18gmachine_24, btw, is there an email form where I don't have to provide a phone number?00:54
fancyfetusgmachine_24, Old hard drive in an old laptop00:54
fancyfetusYou know what?00:54
cvtsxWhat are good c++ ide/compiler for linux?00:54
julian-delphikiblz, so now you should see "df -h" reporting the expected free space :)00:54
cvtsxWhat are good c++ ide/compiler for linux?00:54
fancyfetusI think I'm just going to reinstall windows00:54
gmachine_24fancyfetus: well, that could likely be the trouble00:54
fancyfetusand drop ubuntu for now.00:54
PsyMarg++ is a good compiler00:54
fancyfetusgmachine_24, no errors on the harddrive.00:55
cvtsxk00:55
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gmachine_24fancyfetus, ok.00:55
julian-delphikicvtsx, in general the gnu compiler is the best, for an IDE that's up to you.00:55
blzjulian-delphiki, looks pretty good.  Is there a way to list all partitions in the vg and their respective sizes?00:55
wonderfulmejulian-delphiki and that's why you speak for yourself and even more so you should be a responsible pretend parent and never let kids install linux on their parents pc's.00:55
fancyfetusIt was a good run for me :P I really got used to it all00:55
Dr_Willis!info geany | cvtsx00:55
ubottucvtsx: geany (source: geany): fast and lightweight IDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.22+dfsg-2ubuntu1 (raring), package size 1052 kB, installed size 2519 kB00:55
julian-delphiki!op00:55
ubottuHelp! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - elky, Madpilot, tritium, Nalioth, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, Myrtti, mneptok, Pici,  jpds,  gnomefreak, bazhang,  Flannel, ikonia, maco, h00k, IdleOne, bkerensa, nhandler, Jordan_U, DJones or k1l!00:55
julian-delphikiget out of here wonderfulme00:55
gmachine_24fancyfetus: but, again, if you have data you want to save - do that first00:55
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cvtsxi dont like code blocks and tend to use vsc++ since i dont know of many ide/compiler for linux00:55
fancyfetusgmachine_24, of course :) Thank you!00:55
* blz ducks for incoming strike package00:55
cvtsxthx for reccommendations ;)00:55
gmachine_24you know you can ignore people in here... I'm just sayin' . . .00:56
julian-delphikii'm aware, but this is not a channel for trolls.00:56
blzgmachine_24, shouldn't have to, though...00:56
blzjulian-delphiki, Is there a way to list all partitions in the vg and their respective sizes?00:56
gmachine_24agreed to both julian and blz ...... but I don't think s/he rises to the level of an emergency00:57
wonderfulmejulian-delphiki say love me leave me let me be lonely00:57
wonderfulmejulian-delphiki you won't believe me but I love you only00:57
PsyMarwhen they're telling people that ubuntu sucks and they should use windows 8 instead, I think that counts as an emergency00:57
blzPsyMar, a psychiatric one, at that...00:57
thinknowwhat do you guys think? Is ubuntu 12.10 LTS safer than 13.04 "Short term support" ?00:57
gmachine_24PsyMar: haha00:57
julian-delphikiblz, i'm not sure to be honest. fdisk -l will list all of your drives.00:57
Dr_Williswe all know its going to head in that direction anyway00:58
cvtsxback, xchat is having a little bit of problems00:58
Dr_Willisthinknow:  'safer' in wht way.00:58
wonderfulmethinknow windows 8.1 is the shit00:58
Tylertwoblz: The vg? "lsblk" does that from terminal00:58
cvtsxwin 7 all the way00:58
thinknowwonderfulme, win8 sucks00:58
thinknowsorry :p00:58
cvtsxAnyways i will def check out geany. Thx ;)00:58
thinknowDr_Willis, just safer,00:58
Dr_Willisthinknow:  its supposed tobe more stable. but i imagine any security bugs will be getting patched in both releases00:58
thinknowfor hackers, crackers, sniffers+++00:58
wonderfulmethinknow that's not true. your love is my love00:58
blzTylertwo,  oooh that's pretty!00:58
thinknowlol wonderfulme00:59
thinknow;)00:59
gmachine_24alright I forgot how to ignore someone, how do I ignore notsowonderfulme?00:59
blzjulian-delphiki, Well it seems to be working beautifully.  Thanks so much for your help!00:59
Tylertwoblz: yeah, I like it00:59
Dr_Willisthinknow:  most people pick lts because they dont want to upgrade every 6 mo.00:59
julian-delphikiblz, no prob, i do that on srvers about once a month.00:59
cvtsxya ^00:59
PsyMargmachine: probably just /ignore wonderfulme00:59
cvtsxwho here isnt running 12.04?00:59
wonderfulmejulian-delphiki say, love me or leave or let me be lonely00:59
Dr_Willisi always stick to the latest release.00:59
ShadowBlaze18does Cannonical have an email form without a phone number requirement?00:59
thinknowDr_Willis, ok, so it is not because it is security holes in 13.04 ?00:59
julian-delphikiwonderfulme, please leave.01:00
blzjulian-delphiki, I admire your bravery ^^01:00
OwnixI am using a linux program and stepping through the config now. What exactly does a semi colon mean in a config?01:00
blzLVMs are scary01:00
gmachine_24PsyMar: thanks. that seems to work.01:00
julian-delphikithinknow, I wouldn't worry too much about security holes, they get patched quickly.01:00
wonderfulmejulian-delphiki you might find the night-time the right time for kissing01:00
julian-delphikiOwnix, depends on the program :)01:00
Dr_Willisthinknow:  any known security bugs, would get patched in whatever release finds them. then often get backported back down to earlier releases. (if they are still under support)01:00
OwnixFor example: # Authentication for the http based control. Syntax username:password # Default: not defined (Disabled) ; control_authentication username:password01:00
thinknowand another thing, why does aaaalways the computer get muuch slower when i run apt-get update and then apt-get upgrade ?01:00
Ownixjulian-delphiki: how do I find out? It doesnt appear to be in man01:00
thinknowafter i have runned it on a new installation01:01
julian-delphikiOwnix, what is the program/01:01
thinknowit get slow as hell01:01
julian-delphikithinknow, that doesn't make much sense01:01
Dr_Willisthinknow:  sounds like you got some driver issues. or somthing odd. I have no slowdowns on any of my macines01:01
Ownixjulian-delphiki: http://motion.sourceforge.net/01:01
Dr_Willisthinknow:  unless its your hd filling up. ;)01:01
wonderfulmenigh-time is my time for just reminiscing01:01
thinknowDr_Willis, this is always01:01
thinknowit start out fast and fun01:01
Dr_Willisthinknow:  clarify wht gets slow.01:01
thinknowand get slow01:01
thinknoweverything01:02
Dr_Willisconsole? commands?  or you mean the gui gets laggy01:02
Dr_Willistakes longer to boot? to login? compiles take longer?01:02
thinknowi click on file manager and have to wait a few sec before it opens01:02
thinknowlike in windows01:02
thinknow:p01:02
julian-delphikiOwnix, usually a semicolon represents the "end of a line"01:02
ravendaftykins you still there01:02
Dr_Willisjust the gui slowing down is not 'everything' on the os.01:02
thinknow'but when the program first have started it uselly works ok01:02
daftykinsraven: ja01:02
wonderfulmefuck that indeed, nobody wants to join the channel I ask for01:02
ravendaftykins http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/202/qd78.png/01:02
Ownixjulian-delphiki: so should I delete that ';' to activate the feature?01:02
raventhat's what my gparted looks like01:02
wonderfulmethat's rather unrather01:03
PsyMarOwnix: I think you would want to replace it with a newline01:03
Dr_Willisthinknow:  check askubuntu.com perhaps they ahve some ideas. i seem to recall seeong some similer questions asked there befor01:03
thinknowDr_Willis, have tried, but thnx anyway01:03
thinknowjust a fresh installation now, and formatted01:03
gmachine_24Hi. I'm on an Ubuntu 12.04LTS desktop that I use as a music server - and I'd like to be able to get access to it from my other computers - Linux and Windows. Samba is installed and I can stream music - but cannot connect remotely or even, on Windows machines, see that files are being shared.01:03
thinknowand 1TB free space01:03
daftykinsraven: ah yes, you have sda1 as primary partition then the rest are logical within an extended. Windows won't install anywhere on that disk01:04
thinknowso it should be enough space left01:04
gmachine_24I installed sshserver and client in respecitve computers01:04
cvtsxcarlos you from Brazil?01:04
Dr_Willisgmachine_24:  you mean you cant connect to the samba shares? You did give the user a samba password with 'sudo smbpasswd -a username' ? you did set up some shares?01:04
thinknowBut one thing more - After Ubuntu 10.04 i cant get openvpn to work with network manager, why is that?!01:04
thinknowi have heard other having the same problem01:04
thinknowi have to run it in terminal01:05
thinknowit wont show up in network manager01:05
Dr_Willisgmachine_24:  for ssh -  you should be able to see some errors in the logs if connections are refused.01:05
cvtsxupgrade to 12.04 i use openvpn all the time01:05
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julian-delphikiOwnix, perhaps01:05
julian-delphikior writing a similar line without the ; on its ownline01:05
gmachine_24Dr_Willis: Yes, set up one share only but using the same username as on Ubuntu and also set up network (Samta) password01:05
thinknowthe first time with 10.04 or 9.10 i just installed openvpn and typed in info in network manager and it got a locklogo on the "connection logo"01:06
gmachine_24Dr_Willis: this would be a log on the client side?01:06
blzI'm trying to set up an NFS share on my local network but the ubuntu docs have me a bit confused.  If I don't set up NFS with Kerberos, can I still password-protect shares?01:06
Dr_Willisgmachine_24:  the ssh server has logging options, in /var/log/ somewhere it can mention whos connected and so forth. the windows ssh client may also give some info.01:06
thinknownow i cant install it that way at all, just pptp01:06
gmachine_24Dr_Willis: Also, I run logitech media server as the music server software and that I can use on any pc, laptop or remote device01:06
julian-delphikiblz, NFS has very little on its own in terms of access control01:07
gmachine_24Dr_Willis: but we're talking two separate things here, right? ssh connection vs samba shares01:07
blzjulian-delphiki, so no?  I guess it wouldn't be the end of the world.  This is on my home network so simplicity tumps security.01:07
blz*trumps, even01:07
gmachine_24Dr_Willis: If the Samba share worked I'd probably figure out the ssh problem over time01:08
julian-delphikiblz, I'd recommend doing it without it :) No point in doing it on a home network assuming the NFS port isn't forwarded to the world.01:08
gmachine_24If anyone gives me another answer I'm not being rude, but I need to be AFK for a bit01:09
blzjulian-delphiki, okay then.  I shall do exactly that.  I'm looking at the docs, though (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NFSv4Howto#NFSv4_without_Kerberos) and I'm a bit confused.  Is /export just a randomly chosen name or is that what NFS expects?01:09
ravendaftykins what should I do?01:09
arquebuscan someone give me info on how to connect wireless on my laptop? it usually works automatically after an install but its not working now01:10
arquebusalso Im getting a "no network devices available" message in the menu of the wireless icon in my toolbar01:11
cvtsxSo whats the c++ channel? I tried #c++ and it isnt working.... ;(01:13
julian-delphikiblz, its just an arbitrary name01:13
Dr_Willis!alis | cvtsx01:14
ubottucvtsx: alis is a services bot that can help you find channels. Read "/msg alis help list" for help and ask any questions about it in #freenode. Example usage: /msg alis list #ubuntu* or /msg alis list *http*01:14
wylde!alis | cvtsx01:14
cvtsxthx01:14
julian-delphikiarquebus, sounds like a missing driver!01:14
arquebuscvtsx: you may have to identify with nickserv first01:14
julian-delphikido you have a way to connect to the internet without wifi?01:15
cvtsxya i think so, im going to register my nick now01:15
arquebusjulian-delphiki: yes, I could use a network cable, I tried that and it didnt work01:15
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deepbluei always get this message error in pacman,failed to commit transaction (download library error) Errors occurred, no packages were upgraded.01:16
arquebusjulian-delphiki: thanks, brb01:16
SpecialEdHey guys, I'm suddenly having trouble with my Drupal 7 site, whenever anyone tries to click the login button for /user/login we're getting an HTTP 500 error. Any suggestions?01:16
HumptyDumpty001Hi my machine freezes randomly how to enable detailed logging in ubuntu01:17
HumptyDumpty001I am on 13 version01:18
HumptyDumpty001@sprcialed check directory /var/logs/httpd and find error_log01:19
julian-delphikideepblue, pacman isn't an ubuntu thing.01:20
julian-delphikiSpecialEd, i'd check /var/log/apache2/error.log and whatever *-error.logs are in that folder.01:20
julian-delphikiHumptyDumpty001, it's apache2 in ubuntu01:20
julian-delphikiHumptyDumpty001, random freezes are usually from hardware problems... /var/log/messages and dmesg might tell you more.01:21
deepbluejulian-delphiki, it's in  Archlinux01:21
julian-delphiki!arch01:21
julian-delphiki!archlinux01:21
ubottuOther !Linux distributions besides !Ubuntu include: Debian, Mepis (using !APT); RedHat, Fedora, SUSE, Mandriva (using !RPM); Gentoo, Slackware (using other packaging systems)01:21
SpecialEdJulian: I'm all over them and all I'm seeing is " Apache/2.2.22 (Ubuntu) PHP/5.3.10-1ubuntu3.8 with Suhosin-Patch configured -- resuming normal operations" which was when I restarted apache2 a few minutes ago01:21
HumptyDumpty001Hmm i got new machine i did memory check01:21
julian-delphikideepblue, we dont support arch here.01:21
julian-delphikiSpecialEd, yeah, then check the site specific *-error.log01:22
julian-delphikiit should be in there01:22
julian-delphikiSpecialEd, except if your php.ini has a custom error_log location set.01:22
gulag2013Would it be possible to change the location where Firefox stores it's bookmarks, I know it's not the Firefox channel. I have tried there and no answer yet.01:22
HumptyDumpty001Julian any util to do full system check like memory8601:22
ShadowBlaze18thanks for your help guys :)01:22
ShadowBlaze18bye01:22
pfifoHumptyDumpty001: there is memtest86+01:23
SpecialEd(36)File name too long: access to /sites/A.all,,_themes,,_bootstrap,,_css,,_overrides.css,,qmu4o14+default,,_files,,_,,_fontyourface,,_wysiwyg.css,,qmu4o14+default,,_files,,_,,_cpn,,_author_pane-delta-0.css,,qmu4o14+default,,_files,,_,,_fontyourface,,_font.css,,qmu4o14+default,,_files,,_,,_fontyourface,,_local_fonts,,_Vera-normal-normal,,_stylesheet.css,,qmu4o14+default,,_files,,_,,_css_injector,,_css_injector_1.css,,qmu4o14,M01:23
SpecialEdcc.R33 failed01:23
julian-delphikiHumptyDumpty001, I'd bet its something overheating.01:23
julian-delphikiSpecialEd, ooof, thats a tough one.01:23
SpecialEdshould i drush uninstall fonturface?01:24
blzIt's been a while since I've used 12.04  How do I add a PPA again?  Do I have to add it to /etc/apt/sources.list ?01:24
julian-delphikiSpecialEd, I can't say for sure, its been a while since i've admined drupal... Sounds like something is turning /sites/somepath into some gross huge path.01:25
julian-delphiki!ppa | blz01:25
ubottublz: A Personal Package Archive (PPA) can provide alternate software not normally available in the offical Ubuntu repositories - Looking for a PPA? See https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas - WARNING: PPAs are unsupported third-party packages, and you use them at your own risk. See also !addppa and !ppa-purge01:25
HumptyDumpty001(julian-delphiki) how to keep track of heating01:25
blz!addppa01:25
ubottuSince Ubuntu 9.10, a !ppa can be added using a single command «  sudo add-apt-repository ppa:user/ppa-name » See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Ubuntu#Adding%20PPAs for more details01:25
julian-delphikiblz, i believe it is add-apt-repository.01:26
blzjulian-delphiki, not in 12.04 though =/01:26
blzHence my troubles01:26
julian-delphikioh, blz,apt-get install python-software-properties01:26
blzoh. wow!01:26
SpecialEdso you think that long error is something else besides fontyourface ?01:27
daftykinsraven: you'll have to backup every partition after sda1 then delete and recreate01:27
julian-delphikiSpecialEd, I can't say for sure, seems like a bug in some drupal module.01:27
SpecialEdis there a drush command to see which modules are installed?01:28
SpecialEdand then I can just go down the list and remove em until i get lucky01:28
julian-delphikiSpecialEd, you might be better off asking in a drupal channel, I can't say for sure.01:28
SpecialEdoh my god I'm sorry I thought I was in drupal, my bad!!! <-- Stupid me!01:29
GH0What would be the easiest way to install the latest version of znc from raring to precise?01:32
fourq__can someone help me with my iptables.firewall.rules? I'm getting "Failed connect to 127.0.01:9200; Connection refused" http://pastebin.com/2eRpcTGu01:32
julian-delphikiGH0 I'd just grab it from source, tho there may be a PPA01:33
fourq__I'm calling that uri from curl on the same box as the rules01:33
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julian-delphikifourq__, it would appear you're not accepting port 9200 :) add "-A INPUT -p tcp --dport 9200 -j ACCEPT" by the 80 and 443 rules.01:34
julian-delphikiand then restart your fw service.01:34
pfifofourq__: look right to me, your rejecting all connections to 127.0.0.1 and your getting a connection reused, no problems there01:34
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fourq__yeah I know, and I commented that out first, but i didn;t know which service to restart01:35
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fourq__so I thought i'd ask what the best way to allow that port insternal was01:35
fourq__internal01:36
julian-delphikifourq__, did you see what I said? you should add that rule and /etc/init.d/iptables restart01:36
fourq__thanks julian-delphiki01:36
fourq__and that will just allow via localhost not publicly right?01:37
julian-delphikifourq__, is the service on port 9200 listening on localhost or all ips?01:37
fourq__just localhost01:38
pfifofourq__: add '-i lo' in there to specify the interface01:38
julian-delphikithen it'll just allow localhost. if you want the firewall rules to reflect that and you can either do what pfifo says or do " -A INPUT -p tcp -s 127.0.0.1 --dport 9200 -j ACCEPT"01:39
fourq__what is the name of the default fw service to restart after apply this?01:39
fourq__sudo service <fw> restart01:39
julian-delphikiiptables01:39
fourq__thanks guys/girls01:39
julian-delphiki(or UFW if you're using that)01:39
pfifofourq__: actuall the -s in that last line means source, you want -d for destination... of course for a localhost it dosent matter, but if it was a public interface that it would01:41
julian-delphikipfifo, not if he wanted to allow localhost only01:41
julian-delphiki-s 127.0.0.1 would be correct.01:42
GH0julian-delphiki, when trying to configure from the tarball, I run into this issue though: http://pastebin.com/z0LQNvHm01:42
OwnixNoob question, when I do su username and then login with that users password, whoami reports that I am not that user01:42
GH0Not sure what else is needed to do make or install, and/or why it isn't installed by default in Ubuntu Server LTS01:42
julian-delphikiOwnix, "su - username" i think01:42
julian-delphikiGH0 "apt-get install build-essential"01:43
Ownixjulian-delphiki: http://pastie.org/private/ioins0eetlotfpkznphw01:43
Ownixno dice01:43
vorlketsomeone give me pointer to keyboard failure boot hangup?01:44
Ownixjulian-delphiki: this would be why motion:x:108:115::/home/motion:/bin/false01:45
julian-delphikiOwnix, ah yeah, the /bin/false?01:46
pfifojulian-delphiki: ok got ya, that is what were trying for01:46
OwnixSo I guess the motion app didnt want people to login as that user01:46
julian-delphikiyou could su -c "whoami" motion01:46
julian-delphikii think, Ownix01:46
OwnixIm trying to run the app as the user it created01:46
delinquentmeso... basically nobody ever installs the proprietary video drivers right?01:46
delinquentmebrand new larptarp01:46
julian-delphikidelinquentme, I have before.01:46
OwnixIs there a better way to do this? If I do sudo motion im essentially runn9ing the app as root correct?01:46
delinquentmeinstalled these damn prop drivers and the display does no work nao01:46
julian-delphikiOwnix, yeah, most apps run as root and then drop their privs to a less privileged user.01:47
julian-delphikidelinquentme, damn, ATI or AMD?01:47
julian-delphikierr01:47
julian-delphikiATI or NVIDIA?01:47
Ownixjulian-delphiki: so doing 'sudo motion' is probably safe?01:47
pfifoOwnix: it looks like it set it up so that motion user is for file ownership... it might be changing to that user inside the program01:47
julian-delphikiOwnix, usually one starts a service with /etc/init.d/servicename start01:47
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OwnixWell I just told it to start in daemon mode and then it threw this01:48
Ownixhttp://pastie.org/private/fzjgngocxakbxhztoxdrq#601:48
julian-delphikiOwnix, sounds like /var/run/motion doesn't exist.01:49
delinquentmejulian-delphiki, nvdia01:49
julian-delphikidelinquentme, man, and new laptop? drivers might not support it01:51
julian-delphikiI'd try nouveau01:51
fourq__so if 13.04 is using ufw, will the rules in /etc/iptables.firewall.rules even apply?01:52
Ownixjulian-delphiki: correct. I created the directory and chowned it to 'motion', Now here is a question for you. I have motion set up to take a picture when movement is detected. These pictures are saved to /tmp/motion. What would be the best way to wput these to an FTP server? Is there some type of script that could see when a new file was added to a dir and01:53
Ownixthen fire the wput command? motion does not seem to have any built in ftp settings, But it does have the ability to save to an SQL server which is odd01:53
pfifoOwnix: use rsync, it will transfer only changes and new files... call rsync from within crontab (i think youll have to install a crond)01:54
Dr_WillisOwnix:  you can mount the ftp server to a local directgory and let the app write directlyu to the server if you wanted to. or rsync in a cron job may be a better idea01:54
Dr_Willis!info fam01:54
ubottufam (source: fam): File Alteration Monitor. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.7.0-17 (raring), package size 67 kB, installed size 256 kB01:54
KalelGreetings.. I'd like to know, what really does the 'i2c-tools' for my Raring?01:54
pfifoHi Dr_Willis01:54
OwnixThose are two great ideas thanks guys01:54
Dr_Willis!info ic2-tools01:55
ubottuPackage ic2-tools does not exist in raring01:55
Ownixpfifo: what is the point of the crontab? is it just so rsync starts on boot?01:55
Dr_Willis!info i2c-tools01:55
ubottui2c-tools (source: i2c-tools): heterogeneous set of I2C tools for Linux. In component universe, is extra. Version 3.1.0-2 (raring), package size 56 kB, installed size 231 kB01:55
Dr_Willistools to mess with i2c devices01:55
pfifoOwnix: rsync is a oneshot... you need cron to call it ever 10 minutes or so01:55
Ownixwhats an ic2 device?01:55
Ownixpfifo: so every 10 minutes it will upload the changes to my FTP site?01:56
OwnixI see01:56
Dr_WillisOwnix:  a bit of hardware like a temp sensor or somthing. id suggest checkng wikipedia01:56
OwnixI dont have anything like that. Just a simple cheap webcam01:56
KalelGreetings Dr.. I'll see further information online.01:56
Dr_Willis;)01:56
pfifoOwnix: no... cron will call rsync every 10 minutes... rsync will upload to ftp ( 2 seperate actions)01:56
mark_____hey, folks - I'm super new to linux and wanted to ask for some advice with respect to finding resources that can help me use it -- I'm running Ubuntu 13.0401:57
pfifoOwnix: i2c is a different issue from what your asking01:57
Dr_Willisheh.01:57
Dr_Willis!manual | mark_____01:57
ubottumark_____: The Ubuntu Manual will help you become familiar with everyday tasks such as surfing the web, listening to music and scanning documents. With an emphasis on easy to follow instructions, it is suitable for all levels of experience. http://ubuntu-manual.org/01:57
Roy_Ubuntu_13-04how can i find the UUID for /dev/sdh1 on /media/roy/LIFESTUDIO type vfat ... so i can edit fstab to mount LIFESTUDIO in a different location01:58
Dr_WillisRoy_Ubuntu_13-04:  sudo blkid01:58
Ownixpfifo: I know the concept is simple but im struggling to wrap my head around it lol so every 10 minutes cron calls rsync and tells it to run and then rsync does its thing and uploads changes? So if my server crashed 5 minutes after the last rsyn job changes will not be pushed to the ftp server?01:58
Roy_Ubuntu_13-04thanks01:58
mark_____wonderful!  Thanks!01:58
pfifoOwnix: as soon as thew server comes back up, crond will start again... resuming the whole shebang #!01:59
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Ownixpfifo: unless the server has been blown up with an RPG01:59
Ownixwhat tools are available for that?01:59
Dr_Willisapt-get install rpg-shield01:59
OwnixI forgot that was in the repo!02:00
Dr_Willisi have the skynet repos enabnled.. it may not be in yours02:00
OwnixAll praise the Canonical gods02:00
mark_____ALSO, I was trying to configure a thumbdrive from which I can boot a machine from and do stuff in the OS and then save my changes, etc.  Basically, I wanted a jump drive that would let me bypass a machine's OS, and the Ubuntu stick would just run of a machine's hardware.  My research indicated that I should create a live jump drive with persistence, but I'm having a great deal of trouble achieving this.  I've tried a punch of applica02:02
mark_____and the one that comes with Ubuntu – but I can't get it to work.  I assumed it was my own blundering, but I followed the instructions exactly and none of the programs achieved the task.  Any tips or tricks?02:03
Stevenregohi02:04
Stevenregoanyone know any rooms for ptc assistance?02:04
Dr_Willismark_____:  the tools at the pendrivelinux site can get you going.02:04
Dr_Willismark_____: you just need a live usb setup with a persistant 'save' file02:05
mark_____Thanks, Dr. Willis.  I'll try them again, but I couldn;t get them to work before.02:05
Dr_Willisor whatever term they use these days02:05
Dr_Willismark_____:  the site has a dozen differnt tools.02:05
mark_____IS there an issue if I'm running the application in a virtual machine?02:05
dasuchinanyone have any experience setting up a ventrilo server? I can't get my client to connect when I have the server running02:05
Dr_Willisyour vm is writeing to a real usb flash drive? cant say i bother to do that.02:05
mark_____I've been using real flash drives, yes.02:06
Dr_Willisso how is a vm figureing into this?02:06
Roy_Ubuntu_13-04hay the LIFESTUDIO  is a fat32, so what would i put inplace of ntfs-3g for my fstab02:06
mark_____I tried a few different ones to ensure that my issue wasn't some pecularity of the physical flash drive02:06
pfifoOwnix: then yopefully you have a pic of the guy who shot the RPG... 10 minutes is just an example... cron will allow a command to be run at as little as 1 minute intervals... if you need realtime... consider the 'mount the ftp' and upload directly... or perhaps motion has a remote server capability02:06
Dr_WillisRoy_Ubuntu_13-04:  'vfat'02:06
Roy_Ubuntu_13-04thamnks02:07
Dr_WillisRoy_Ubuntu_13-04:  or 'auto'02:07
mark_____I work on a Mac, so I'm learning Linux in a virtual machine and have windows in a VM as well02:07
pfifoDr_Willis: can you pastebin the output of 'dig -x 66.172.11.150'02:07
Roy_Ubuntu_13-04is auto not as good as putting the actual one?02:07
mark_____so I'm running the various applications in a windows viertual machine02:07
Dr_Willisdig -x 66.172.11.150 | pastebinit02:08
Dr_Willishttp://paste.ubuntu.com/6194818/02:08
pfifothank you kindly my good sir!02:08
Dr_WillisRoy_Ubuntu_13-04:  it shold be identical02:08
Roy_Ubuntu_13-04k, thanks02:09
Dr_WillisRoy_Ubuntu_13-04:  if the os can figure out the filesystem02:09
Roy_Ubuntu_13-04k02:09
dasuchinanyone have any experience setting up a ventrilo server? I can't get my client to connect when I have the server running02:09
Stevenregohttp://Fun4Days.Com/?share=16150202:09
blzThis is a bit of an unusual question, I think, but is there a setting that I could tweak to make my SATA drives less noisy?  Don't some HDDs have fast-vs-quiet parameters?02:10
KalelI could install MS W7 in a VM, rather in my HD. I ensure make a ntfs** partition to do it the next time..02:10
Stevenregohttp://Fun4Days.com/sms/sms.php?share=16150202:11
pfifowho needs a hostmask when you got a hostname :D02:11
daftykinsblz: some do, but i don't think it's without an element of risk. performance will drop too02:12
blzdaftykins, I could live with the drop in performance.  What are the risks?02:12
blzAnd what are the settings?02:12
daftykinsi'm trying to remember the program but i'm drawing a blank02:13
daftykinsblz: try and look up whether your hard disk(s) support such settings from google first perhaps02:13
blzdaftykins, can you suggest any search terms?  I'm not sure what the thing is that they may or may not support =/02:14
daftykinsblz: acoustic settings perhaps02:14
blzwill-do =)02:15
KalelOk, I am very mad with my internet speed now.. 3G isnt a such plausible thing...02:16
blzdaftykins, kdparm -M seems to be the thing =)02:16
daftykinshdparm! that's the sucker02:16
xushello02:17
xus°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°//°???????????????????????02:17
daftykinshi02:18
xus#join brasil02:18
Kalelwhat si up..02:18
daftykinsKalel: this is a channel for support, not for general chat02:19
KalelI know that, daftykins.02:20
pfifoI want my hard drive to click out the tune jingle bells during disk access for the next 3 months... what params do I give to hdparam?02:20
daftykinsKalel: stop ranting then (:02:21
KalelSir..02:22
Roy_Ubuntu_13-04what is the first line that goes in a bash script?02:22
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daftykins #!/bin/bash02:23
pfifoRoy_Ubuntu_13-04: its called a shebang, and specifies what program to run the script with ex...02:23
pfifo#!/bin/dash02:23
Roy_Ubuntu_13-04thanks, in a moment ill need just a bit of help02:23
Roy_Ubuntu_13-04bash02:24
Roy_Ubuntu_13-04^ did u make typo02:24
pfifono, was something else, dash is a different shell, I like #!/usr/bin/python myself02:25
Roy_Ubuntu_13-04bash is the default?02:25
pfifoRoy_Ubuntu_13-04: yes it is the default, for bash its #!/bin/bash also /bin/sh should be a symlink to the systems prefered shell02:26
Roy_Ubuntu_13-04how can i make the shell script work with files in the same path as the .sh ... like ~/ would be to the "current" users home02:32
mark_____thanks, Dr. Willis02:32
Roy_Ubuntu_13-04would it involve pwd or is there something else i can use02:32
mark_____I'm trying persistence again02:33
Kalel_That can be useful: http://www.ss64.com/bash/02:33
Roy_Ubuntu_13-04 Kalel_: is that for me02:33
Roy_Ubuntu_13-04that dont help if so02:34
Kalel_All ubuntu users..02:34
Kalel_unix like rather.02:35
Stevenregohttp://Visitors2Cash.com/ref.php?refId=14561702:38
Roy_Ubuntu_13-04how can you print/echo/whatever the FULL Current Users Home path to a file??02:39
Roy_Ubuntu_13-04and each time you run the same command, it replaces and not add to the old02:39
otakecho $HOME >> home.txt02:40
kruxecho $HOME > file02:40
krux:P02:40
Roy_Ubuntu_13-04ok it is good for the home path to be nine chars but the file is ten bytes... ecryptfs will be using this file02:43
Roy_Ubuntu_13-04and there is no line break02:44
Dr_WillisRoy_Ubuntu_13-04:  i have to wonder what you are trying to acomplish with this.. well.. weirdness. ;)02:44
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Roy_Ubuntu_13-04ecryptfs forces its self to only use .ecryptfs & .Private in the home folder, im making it work from a USB drive... it WORKS, but from the laptop to the desktop 12.04 to 13.04 the mount points are different02:46
Dr_Willisyou have your home on a usb you mean?02:47
Roy_Ubuntu_13-04i forced them to be the same, but for in the future, im making it more easy to work with cause my friend isnt linux smart02:47
Roy_Ubuntu_13-04NO HOME ON USB !!!02:47
Roy_Ubuntu_13-04sorry for caps02:48
Dr_Willisso what mount points are differnet?02:48
Roy_Ubuntu_13-04im using symbolic links and ecryptfs works properly with it that way02:48
rypervencheI don't see why people encrypt their home directories in Ubuntu :/02:48
Roy_Ubuntu_13-04my home is not encrypted02:49
dinmy entire disk is encrypted02:49
dinwell my / partition...02:49
Dr_Willisthat seems even more confuseing to me now Roy_Ubuntu_13-04  but i guess if you are having fun...02:49
James_EppAssume Ubuntu 12.04.3 with the 'mdadm' package installed but with no email configured. Also assume I used disk utility to create a stripped array between two disks. What notification will I receive if a drive is detected as failing? Some kind of item in the panel? What should I expect?02:50
Dr_WillisJames_Epp:  i odubt if you will get a desktop/popup/dialog02:50
James_EppDr_Willis: Okay.02:50
Dr_Williserror messages in the log files. or dmesg perhaps02:50
James_EppDr_Willis: hmm. okay. do you have any experience with mdadm?02:51
Dr_WillisJames_Epp:  none what so ever.02:51
James_EppDr_Willis: Okay.02:51
Roy_Ubuntu_13-04on 12.04 the mount point is /media/LIFESTUDIO but on 13.04 its /media/roy/LIFESTUDIO .. So i edit fstab to make the desktop 13.04 to /home/LIFESTUDIO02:51
john__looking for help:  How to make "/home" move to a separate partition02:51
Dr_Willisive learned to stay awy from raids and complex setups. ;)02:51
James_EppDr_Willis: thanks for the info.02:51
Roy_Ubuntu_13-04 Dr_Willis: on 12.04 the mount point is /media/LIFESTUDIO but on 13.04 its /media/roy/LIFESTUDIO .. So i edit fstab to make the desktop 13.04 to /home/LIFESTUDIO02:52
Dr_WillisRoy_Ubuntu_13-04:  i belive theres option to make it use the old style mountpoints.. or just link  /media/roy to '..' up one directory ;)02:52
alcabshi all im new to ubuntu, i have problem after installing beta drivers in amd i notice that after installing Catalyst control center is missing please help02:52
Roy_Ubuntu_13-04but this guy is not all that smart with linux , and one day i wont be around to help him, so if he was to ever wipe his machine and dont set it up the same way, or goto a different linux machine with a different user.  Dr_Willis:02:54
Dr_WillisRoy_Ubuntu_13-04:  if thats the case  - sounds like you shouldent be using any encrypted filesystems or homes at all.02:55
Roy_Ubuntu_13-04im making a shell script on the usb drive so when he runs it it will update all the paths and mount path for the private folder to interface with02:55
Roy_Ubuntu_13-04he is getting used to linux02:55
Dr_Willisso you are makign a shell script.. and you started the day today not even knowing the most basics of making a shell script?02:56
Roy_Ubuntu_13-04ive made schripts beforre, just dont remember a lot02:56
Dr_Williswhere is this private folder comming from?  theres a private directory ON the usb?02:56
alcabshi can you help me catalyst control center is missing02:57
delinquentmeIs there a way to email from commandline?02:57
delinquentmeTLDR config script ... + proprietary drivers = display drivers poo'd02:57
Roy_Ubuntu_13-04there is a .ecryptfs & .Private & Private folders on /media/DeviceName02:57
Roy_Ubuntu_13-04i make symlinks to those to the home folder and it works02:58
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Roy_Ubuntu_13-04when running the script from the Desktop, it doesnt show the terminal, how can i make it do so03:00
Dr_Willismake a launcher that runs 'xterm -e thescript'   is one way03:00
James_Eppalcabs: I suggest checking out the #radeon channel03:00
Roy_Ubuntu_13-04with is the script its self, just one file03:01
Roy_Ubuntu_13-04within*03:01
Dr_Williswill depend on the file manager i imagine03:01
Dr_Willisthe common way is to make a launcher, and i recall a 'run in termional' option03:01
Roy_Ubuntu_13-04ubuntu 12.04 file manager03:01
Dr_Willisa .desktop file launcher should work with all the common desktops03:01
James_EppRoy_Ubuntu_13-04: You may also try ("gnome-terminal -x bash ~/Script.sh")03:02
Dr_Willissomthing.desktop   (see gedit.desktop) for an example.03:02
Dr_Willisnot all the terminal emulators support the exact same option. Had issues with this in the past03:02
Dr_Willisand depending on the setup - the default terminal emulato rmay differ/03:02
Dr_Willisxubuntu i notice has a right click -> execute  item. but that dosent launch it in a open xterm.03:04
delinquentmeso I need an smpt server to send email from the command line huh?03:06
otaki think x-terminal-emulator -x COMMAND  , does ubuntu even have xterm?03:06
Roy_Ubuntu_13-04is there a way to rm so it dont go to the trash can, like Shift+Del would do?03:07
airtonix_delinquentme: no03:08
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Dr_WillisRoy_Ubuntu_13-04:  you mean the 'rm' command? theres some other cli tools/scripts that can move to the trash. but i cant recall their names03:09
Roy_Ubuntu_13-04thats what i said rm03:09
Dr_Willissome GUI file managers have a 'delete, dont move to trash' option03:09
airtonixRoy_Ubuntu_13-04: `man rm` will reveal all.03:09
BoomerBileyou can just mv to .trash-100003:09
Roy_Ubuntu_13-04i want to rm to where it does not goto the trash03:10
BoomerBilerm03:10
BoomerBileif you want to remove entire directories rm -r03:10
Dr_Willis'rm' command does Not go to the 'trashcan'03:10
Dr_Willisso thats whats confuseing us.03:10
Roy_Ubuntu_13-04oh ok03:10
Dr_Willisno idea why you would think it does. ;)03:10
BoomerBileif you are in a gui, press and hold shift and right click it, or press shift + delete03:10
Roy_Ubuntu_13-04never checked lol03:10
Roy_Ubuntu_13-04BoomerBile i already know that as i have mentioned03:11
Dr_WillisIt might be a good idea to schedule in reading a few command line tutorials in the near future. ;)03:11
BoomerBilejust got here :)03:11
Roy_Ubuntu_13-04k03:11
Dr_Willisi think for removeable media. nautilus has some option to delete directly or put stuff on the .Trash* dir on the root of the media also.03:12
Dr_Willisthat can cause issues if you dont notice it03:12
Dr_Willis'i deleted 10gb of files off my usb and its still full....'  -> files are in the .Trash ;P03:12
otakosx does that too03:12
Roy_Ubuntu_13-04ive had that issue too lol03:12
BoomerBilein kde if you're using it, you can have it display the extra 'delete' option under the 'move to trash' option03:12
devincebleuse Shift + Del03:13
CrazyZurferhi guys03:13
Dr_Willisi normally notice it when i put the flash drive in another pc or media player. and see a .Trash directory at the top of my video files listing03:13
Dr_Willis;P03:13
airtonixRoy_Ubuntu_13-04: unless you couldn't tell I wasn't saying "Mannnn you really need to do X", i was in fact saying that the command `man` will reveal the manual pages  for a command.03:13
Roy_Ubuntu_13-04hey with out rm a file how can i make it null / blank / 0 bytes03:13
BoomerBileinfo works too, and it is replacing man slowly03:14
Dr_Willisthunar seems to have a 'delte' and 'move to trash' both by default03:14
BoomerBileinfo <command>03:14
Dr_WillisRoy_Ubuntu_13-04:  'echo "" > file'03:14
Roy_Ubuntu_13-04>>03:14
Dr_WillisRoy_Ubuntu_13-04: 'bash redirection'03:14
airtonixRoy_Ubuntu_13-04: also bookmark: commandlinefu.com03:14
Roy_Ubuntu_13-04i didnt think of ""03:14
BoomerBileRoy_Ubuntu_13-04, >> won't replace it, it will concatenate to it03:15
CrazyZurferI think I've found a solution for my problem, this unrecognized hdd by ubuntu installer and gparted http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1604074&page=4&p=10022223#post10022223, this seems to be the answers to all my problems, but since I'm new with ubuntu, I'm lost. How do I install this gptfdisk software?03:15
Dr_Willis > replaves.  >> appends03:15
Dr_Willisreplaces03:15
CrazyZurferi've downloaded the tar.gz03:15
Roy_Ubuntu_13-04when i do > it just adds new lines but >> starts it over03:16
Dr_Williscould be im backwards.. i rarely mess with this stuff any more03:16
[SKT]_RORYRoy_Ubuntu_13-04: I think you're mistaken03:16
[SKT]_RORYRoy_Ubuntu_13-04: You've just described the opposite of the actual behaviour03:17
Roy_Ubuntu_13-04i had to trial and error a moment agao with > & >>03:17
Dr_Willis>> appends here. i just tested it03:17
Dr_Willisecho "hello" > foo03:17
Dr_Williscat foo03:17
Dr_Willisecho "hell000000o" >> foo  && cat foo -> shows both lines03:17
Dr_Willisecho "" > foo03:17
Dr_Willisshows a blank file03:17
Dr_Williscat /dev/null > foo03:19
Dr_Willisdosent even return a blank line. l)03:19
Dr_Willisecho -n "" > foo   - seems the same as the cat /dev/null03:20
Roy_Ubuntu_13-04whats the -n for03:22
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Roy_Ubuntu_13-04perfict the echo -n gets rid of the mistirous extra char that does not show up in the file03:24
Dr_Williserr... thats a 'carrage return' character...03:27
Dr_Willisits not mysterious at all ;)03:27
Dr_Williscr/lf03:27
Roy_Ubuntu_13-04echo $USER which is "roy" and the file would be 4 bytes with out a new line below03:27
Dr_Willisecho -n $USER --> 'roy'   no n - it has has a Carrage return. (or is that a line feed)03:28
pfifoRoy_Ubuntu_13-04: install and use 'hexdump' then you can actually "see" the newline 0x1303:28
Dr_Willissome text editors can show the 'whitespace' characters03:28
HumptyDumpty001Whats alternative of notepad++03:31
[SKT]_RORY!ot | HumptyDumpty001 Ask in here please03:32
ubottuHumptyDumpty001 Ask in here please: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!03:32
CrazyZurferit F****** works!03:32
otakgptfdisk?03:33
AxlinHumptyDumpty001: You mean for Ubuntu? gedit should ship by default.03:33
HumptyDumpty001Yes03:33
alcabshi all i tried #radeon channel but message failed to send03:33
gulag2013Humpty, that bot is trigger happy. I mostly use the built in gedit also03:33
CrazyZurferWhen installing ubuntu, I've choosen to install it with w7 in the same disk. Which one of the two partitions listed is w7's and wich one is ubuntu's? (the left one or the right one?)03:34
john__<CrazyZurfer>  can you see what file system is being used?  That's the easy way for me.  fts windows, ext# ubuntu03:35
Roy_Ubuntu_13-04is there s $pwd i figure out i can just call a file in the same path with my script with out giving its full path, but is there a safer way03:36
CrazyZurferjohn__: worked, thanks03:37
john__<CrazyZurfer>  anytime03:37
Jayhawker07If I have a data partition on /dev/sda6, what do I add to fstab to make sure every user can read/write/execute on it at boot?03:37
pfifoRoy_Ubuntu_13-04: set a variable with the path you want, and when you call stuff use "$MYPATH/myfile.sh" or such03:38
nurowHmmm, I'm having an annoying problem with tons of games. If I make them full screen, they open in between my two monitors, instead of on my primary monitor. I have an nvidia 780M GTX with proprietary drivers...03:38
alcabshi i have problem after installing beta drivers in amd site catalyst control center is missing please help03:39
Roy_Ubuntu_13-04ok how can u make a script print its own path, so as it changes location, will always be correct03:39
Roy_Ubuntu_13-04with out having to adjust the script03:40
[SKT]_RORYRoy_Ubuntu_13-04: In future know that #bash exists - http://www.jtanium.com/2007/12/21/bash-get-current-script-name-and-relative-and-absolute-paths/03:40
john__looking for Help moving '/home' to new partition.  Anyone?03:40
pfifoRoy_Ubuntu_13-04: 'pwd' prints the current directory... but you shouldnt be using 'cd' in a script to move around03:40
[SKT]_RORYjohn__: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Partitioning/Home/Moving03:40
[SKT]_RORYjohn__: First result on Google for "Ubuntu move home directory to new partition" - you're welcome03:41
john__thanks, I've been google-ing for an hour with no luck03:41
[SKT]_RORYjohn__: Rubbish03:41
Roy_Ubuntu_13-04pfifo i wont be moving around, ill be making symlinks03:41
Roy_Ubuntu_13-04the location of the script will some times change03:42
pfifoRoy_Ubuntu_13-04: thats not good programming practice03:42
Roy_Ubuntu_13-04pfifo how much did u read about what i said when i was talking about making ecryptfs work out side of the home folder03:43
john__[SKT]_RORY: if you know what you are looking for google works fast, if you don't you get lost.03:44
alcabshow to fix catalyst control center missing03:44
pfifoRoy_Ubuntu_13-04: none03:44
jossmp#‎codigolinuxperu‬03:44
Axlinalcabs: Make sure you have "fglrx-amdcccle" installed.03:46
alcabsAxlin : in synaptic manager it is installed but when i run in terminal not installed i tried to re installed it but not showing03:47
Axlinalcabs: With which command are you trying to launch it? It should launch with "amdcccle"03:48
Roy_Ubuntu_13-04how can i do a line to where if ecryptfs-mount-private command does not exist then to install it with apt-get?03:48
alcabsAxlin: yes03:49
Roy_Ubuntu_13-04in my script03:49
pfifoRoy_Ubuntu_13-04: ok, I got it... but you still shouldnt be using 'cd' in a script, even in this case.03:49
Roy_Ubuntu_13-04there will be no "cd" at all03:49
pfifoRoy_Ubuntu_13-04: "if [ -f /usr/sbin/ecryptfs-mount-private]"03:50
alcabsAxlin: command not found03:50
alcabsAxlin: i tried sudo amdcccle03:51
Roy_Ubuntu_13-04like can u make a full example with then and else or elseif03:51
LiENUSso my old assed laptop that im putting ubuntu on is slow as piss with unity, i have an amd sempron 3500+ 2gb ram and 80gb ssd, if i use plain jane gnome it's fine, will switching to kubuntu work better with the stock stuff?03:55
pfifoRoy_Ubuntu_13-04: http://fpaste.org/44452/94532213/03:55
LiENUSim guessing compiz just doesnt work well with the system03:55
Roy_Ubuntu_13-04thank you pfifo03:56
Roy_Ubuntu_13-04pfifo does the exit 0 end the if statment or end the script all together03:57
Equinox3LiENUS: i think lubuntu would work the fastest03:58
LiENUSEquinox3, well gnome fallback works great03:58
LiENUSanother thing im wondering if switching from 64 bit ubuntu to 32 bit would be better03:59
LiENUSits actually pretty humorous to use since power button to login is a few seconds03:59
Roy_Ubuntu_13-04so i can have other commands below the fi that will run no matter what the out come of the if is03:59
LiENUSlogin and click the unity magic search thingy button03:59
LiENUSand it just sits there03:59
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TheStuntmanso wondered if anyone would mind giving me a hand here, I've tried both grep and sed and sed seems to way to go but I just can't seem to get the syntax right. I'm trying to delete a specific line after a file is created because its using a ls to generate a playlist. But I don't want the bash script to be in that list. So I'm trying sed '/"/home/mp3/gen.sh"/d' playlist.txt but of course its not working04:03
TheStuntmanif anyone has a clue as to what I can do here, much appreciated04:03
pfifoRoy_Ubuntu_13-04: it ends the entire script, always exit with an exit code04:05
TheStuntman@pfifo are you talking to me?04:06
TheStuntmansorry just noticed the entire message, I really need to get a better irc client04:06
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Roy_Ubuntu_13-04pfifo would this work "if [ -f $Installed1 | -f $Installed2  ]" that way as long as one of them are true?04:07
Roy_Ubuntu_13-04Or should | be 'or' , Or what?04:08
alcabsanyone please help i have problem, catalyst control center is missing after installation of beta drivers04:08
pfifoRoy_Ubuntu_13-04: I had a feeling you were going to ask that, here is how autoconf/automake would do this in a ./configure script... http://fpaste.org/44454/13809461/04:09
Roy_Ubuntu_13-04sweet thanks04:10
pfifoRoy_Ubuntu_13-04: there is a way to iterate over the values in $PATH as well, I forget how todo it though, but that is what a configure script would actually do04:11
Equinox3LiENUS: is this on a clean install04:11
Equinox3if not check startup applications and see what run on startup. maybe removing some things you don't need can speed things up04:11
Roy_Ubuntu_13-04could u help me out with that04:11
pfifoRoy_Ubuntu_13-04: no, im not going to look it up04:12
Roy_Ubuntu_13-04ok04:12
pfifoRoy_Ubuntu_13-04: it would be far quicker for my to write a python app for you then to learn some forgotten bash04:12
* pfifo goes to smoke04:12
LLckfanI have a Gateway laptop and when I opened the lid the power light was on but the laptop was asleep. When I pushed the power it started flashing with the lights for the light bulb and the battery but only when it was plugged in. Is this a sign I need a new tip end for my charger?04:13
alcabsno one help wew04:13
Roy_Ubuntu_13-04would the python app be a binary or like a script/readible04:13
alcabscan i ask what is the support chat room for ubuntu?04:14
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reisioalcabs: this channel here04:15
reisioRoy_Ubuntu_13-04: python apps are usually interpreted04:15
reisioRoy_Ubuntu_13-04: not compiled (binary)04:15
LiENUSEquinox3, clean install04:15
alcabsreisio can you help me04:15
Roy_Ubuntu_13-04thanks04:16
LiENUSlike i said its just unity that sucks, gnome fallback works great04:16
reisioRoy_Ubuntu_13-04: you can make them run a lot faster by having them just-in-time compiled, which is sort of inbetween04:16
reisioRoy_Ubuntu_13-04: more at #python04:16
reisioalcabs: maybe, what's up?04:16
ZantosEzea = $IRCNAME04:16
LiENUSi'm guessing its poor 3d driver support... or possibly the 64 bit drivers are not working right for my gpu04:16
TheStuntmananyone mind giving me a hand with my sed issue?04:16
fancyfetusMy mom threw away the original windows cds that came with my laptop :'(04:16
alcabsreiseo how to fix catalyst control center missinf after installing beta driver04:16
fancyfetusIs this an acceptable time to pirate windows 7?04:16
LiENUSfancyfetus, windows 7 laptops dont come with cds04:17
fancyfetusyes they do...04:17
LiENUSsince when?04:17
reisiofancyfetus: what do you need it for?04:17
LiENUSyou have to pay extra for them04:17
reisioTheStuntman: which issue?04:17
fancyfetusLiENUS, they come with windows and the original drivers.04:17
TheStuntmanreisio: so wondered if anyone would mind giving me a hand here, I've tried both grep and sed and sed seems to way to go but I just can't seem to get the syntax right. I'm trying to delete a specific line after a file is created because its using a ls to generate a playlist. But I don't want the bash script to be in that list. So I'm trying sed04:17
fancyfetusthey came with all three of the laptops that I purchased.04:17
LiENUSfancyfetus, typically nowadays they come with a tool to burn those recovery cds or a recovery partition04:18
fancyfetusreisio, to install it on my computer :P04:18
LiENUSi just bought two dell laptops that arrived on the 25th04:18
reisioTheStuntman: okay, can you pastebin an excerpt with the before you have and the after you want?04:18
LiENUSneither one came with any cds04:18
pfifoRoy_Ubuntu_13-04: im not writing a python app for you anyway... youll never learn anything like that04:18
TheStuntmanyeah sure thing give me a second04:18
reisiofancyfetus: you want to install Windows?04:18
Roy_Ubuntu_13-04aew man04:18
fancyfetusLiENUS, maybe it's a new thing? The laptops I'm talking about are at least a year old.04:18
alcabsTHANKS FOR ALL YOUR HELP.............04:18
fancyfetusreisio, yes sir. I installed ubuntu over everything and now i'm plagued with error upon error.04:19
mdhyou're welcome alcabs04:19
fancyfetusSo many that I can't even list them all without accidentally leaving one out.04:19
reisiofancyfetus: ah04:19
fancyfetusNot blaming ubuntu.04:19
TheStuntmanreisio: Before http://pastebin.com/d3Z9YcFq04:19
fancyfetusIt's most likely my fault completely04:19
TheStuntmanreisio: After http://pastebin.com/cwauNFaG04:19
pfifoTheStuntman: try "ls | grep -v myscript.sh"04:19
TheStuntmanpfifo: Don't I need to indicate a file for grep to search?04:20
reisioTheStuntman: yeah, what pfifo said will work04:20
reisioTheStuntman: if you're doing ls dir/, you can make it ls dir/ | grep -v 'gen.sh'04:20
pfifoTheStuntman: pipe the output of ls into grep (yes your still specifying a file here, the file is STDIN)04:21
reisiowell you're still specifying stdin :)04:21
TheStuntmanpfifo: this is what I'm currently using to create the playlist04:21
TheStuntmanls -d $PWD/* > playlist.txt04:21
TheStuntmanso I guess I'm not understanding how to pipe the grep into the ls04:21
reisioTheStuntman: I'd use find04:21
pfifols -d $PWD/* | grep -v nameofscript.sh > playlist.txt04:22
reisiofind foo/ -iname '*.mp3' -o -iname '*.flac'04:22
reisiofind foo/ -iname '*.mp3' -o -iname '*.flac' > foo.m3u04:22
pfifoTheStuntman: or maybe try this? 'ls *.mp3 > playlist.m3u'04:22
reisionot that grep -v isn't worth knowing :)04:22
TheStuntmanoh thats perfect reisio that actually rejects the need for the grep04:22
reisioand yeah you can just match the files you want in the first place, too04:22
TheStuntmanls might work too XD04:23
reisiofind would be better for directorIES04:23
pfifonothing like over thinking a problem... reisio way will search subfolders too for multi CD albums04:23
TheStuntmanso which direction would be the best to go here then?04:24
pfifofind04:24
TheStuntmanawesome, thanks alot guys, this solves a few problems04:24
reisioTheStuntman: it all depends :p04:24
LiENUS13.10 is due on what the 17th?04:24
reisiowhat's nice about find is if you have to you can use -exec with it, and avoid issues with strange filename characters04:24
TheStuntmannot to figure out how to figure out a applications pid number to send a kill sighup04:24
reisiobut you don't necessarily have that problem04:24
TheStuntman^now04:25
reisionow :p04:25
reisioLiENUS: I heard that04:25
reisio!13.1004:25
ubottuUbuntu 13.10 (Saucy Salamander) will be the 19th release of Ubuntu. Announcement: http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/1252 - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1. Release date will be 17th October 2013.04:25
reisiokwazang04:25
LiENUSah neet04:25
LiENUSthanks04:25
TheStuntmanyeah its getting late for me and my typing fingers are being silly lol04:25
LiENUSand im assuming its possible for it to be a few days late04:25
vaki have neither cd-drive nor usb-stick and would like to install ubuntu on a parallel partition that i've just created from Windows 8. What is the fastest way to get through? UNetBootIn?04:25
pfifoTheStuntman: 'pidof <app name>'04:25
TheStuntmanis there a way I can print that to a variable?04:26
TheStuntmanso that I can use it in a kill sighup?04:26
reisioLiENUS: I s'pose, but that would be pretty silly of them04:26
pfifomyvar=`pidof <app name>`04:26
TheStuntmanoh beautiful pfifo04:26
reisiovak: the fastest way... is probably to get out of your chair and spend $1 on a USB stick04:26
pfifokill -sSIGHUP `pidof <appname>04:27
reisioor find one in corporate trash04:27
vakreisio: sounds funny, but it is 6:30 here in Germany04:27
LiENUSreisio, eh well release dates can get pushed back04:27
reisiovak: am?04:27
vakreisio: yep04:27
reisioyou can probably get them at gas stations04:28
LLckfanI have a Gateway laptop and when I opened the lid the power light was on but the laptop was asleep. When I pushed the power it started flashing with the lights for the light bulb and the battery but only when it was plugged in. Is this a sign I need a new tip end for my charger?04:28
TheStuntmanso something like this guys?04:28
pfifodollar general has them, $12 for an 8GB04:28
TheStuntmanthepid=`pidof ezstream` kill SIGHUP $thepid04:28
vakreisio: so, the situation is THAT much without good alternatives?..04:28
reisioTheStuntman: if you're going to reuse it over and over04:29
TheStuntmansure am04:29
reisioTheStuntman: otherwise just kill SIGHUP $(pidof eztream)04:29
reisioah okay :p04:29
pfifoTheStuntman: that pretty much the same as 'killall SIGHUP eztream'04:29
TheStuntmanthe command is going to basically go through, refresh the playlist.txt with the new files, then send a command to exstream to refresh the playlist in memory04:29
TheStuntman^ezstream04:29
LennyJri did something to my audio controller, im going to paste the results of lspci -v | grep -A7 -i "audio, so someonecan tell me how to fix it04:33
TheStuntmanok so! tried running my command and got this04:34
TheStuntman./gen.sh: line 6: kill: SIGHUP: arguments must be process or job IDs04:34
pfifoTheStuntman: its 'kill -s SIGHUP 666' not 'kill SIGHUP 666'04:34
pfifo-s04:35
LennyJrMultimedia audio controller: Creative Labs SB Audigy (rev 04)Flags: medium devsel, IRQ 255I/O ports at e000 [disabled] [size=64]Expansion ROM at <ignored> [disabled by cmd]Capabilities: <access denied>Kernel modules: snd-emu10k104:35
* TheStuntman face desks04:35
TheStuntmanI can't believe I missed the -s lol04:35
Crazyzurferhey guys, just installed ubuntu and changed the desktop's background image, but the app launcher keeps having this  purple tone, is there a way to remove that tone and just leave it semi-transparent?04:35
TheStuntmanthat worked it04:36
Dr_WillisCrazyzurfer:  i belive the left side panel changes to match the wallpaper some how. some of the unofficial ubuntu tweaking tools i think can change the setting04:37
TheStuntmanthanks alot guys, you saved me a ton of headaches XD04:37
kriskropdI was running 'tail -f /var/log/pgl/pgld.log' for a couple days and then eventually it just stopped updating - the tail process jsut stopped pulling from the file or something - anyone here know anything about it? I have a workaround in mind that involves a while loop and a timeout command, but I'm curious why it's halting in the first place. I suspect it's a buffer/cache issue04:39
zhaotongxuedo you have eat?04:40
reisiozhaotongxue: eat?04:41
zhaotongxuelunch04:41
Dr_Williseating chow mein right now. ;)04:41
pfifocold pizza04:41
zhaotongxueo haha04:41
zhaotongxuenoodles04:41
reisioI had lasagne earlier04:41
Dr_Willisbut is there a support question amoung the noodly goodness?04:41
reisio10 pts if you know what ramen is made of04:42
zhaotongxuenono04:42
Dr_Willis'fried goodness'04:42
zhaotongxuei have install mysql on ubuntu04:42
zhaotongxuebut now04:42
zhaotongxuei can't connection  it04:42
zhaotongxueERROR 2002 (HY000): Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld' (13)04:42
zhaotongxuethis04:42
Jordana-WatsonHello guys, my ubuntu 12.04 uses most of my bandwidth. I have turned off updates and not opened any browser.. How can I fix this,04:42
Jordana-Watsonsomebody plz help04:43
Jordana-Watsonzhaotongxue: use lampp04:43
pfifokriskropd: the log got rotated, and tail is still looking at the old file descriptor04:43
pfifokriskropd: read the manual04:43
zhaotongxuewhat's "lampp"?04:43
Dr_Willis!lamp04:43
ubottuLAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process.04:43
zhaotongxuecommand?04:44
Dr_WillisJordana-Watson:  use some tool and monitor whats accessing the network perhaps?04:44
Dr_Willis!info ntop04:44
ubottuntop (source: ntop): display network usage in web browser. In component universe, is optional. Version 3:4.99.3+ndpi5517+dfsg3-1 (raring), package size 689 kB, installed size 1659 kB04:44
Jordana-WatsonDr_Willis: let me try04:45
otakiftop is nice too04:45
Dr_Willis!info iftop04:45
ubottuiftop (source: iftop): displays bandwidth usage information on an network interface. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0~pre2-3 (raring), package size 36 kB, installed size 105 kB04:45
Dr_Williseven better-er :)04:45
zhaotongxuei had some things just now04:46
zhaotongxuei had some things just now04:46
zhaotongxuei had some things just now04:46
pfifosure is better-er, a savings of 1554kb04:46
FloodBot1zhaotongxue: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.04:46
zhaotongxuesorry04:46
zhaotongxueit's a 意外04:46
Dr_Willisthose letters look like little chicken scratches to me. ;)  Unicode rocks :)04:47
[SKT]_RORYQuestion marks here, my terminal didn't even try04:47
Dr_Williswonder if weechat has some script to let me use other fancy chaccters. ;)04:48
pfifoi hope not04:48
Dr_Willisthose #'s in a circle were nifty earlier. ;) not seen those befor04:49
[SKT]_RORYDr_Willis: emojii for weechat... go in #weechat and ask them and see what happens04:49
LLckfanI have a Gateway laptop and when I opened the lid the power light was on but the laptop was asleep. When I pushed the power it started flashing with the lights for the light bulb and the battery but only when it was plugged in. Is this a sign I need a new tip end for my charger?04:52
Dr_Willis;)04:52
Dr_Willisⱺ_ɵ04:52
[SKT]_RORY!ot | LLckfan04:53
ubottuLLckfan: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!04:53
meh_hello. My machine takes over 100 seconds to boot. It used to boot much faster before I switched to linux. Would you have any suggestions for reducing this time ?04:55
Dr_WillisLLckfan:  id ask in #hardware and ive found its ALWAYS a good idea to have a spare charger04:56
Dr_Willisgot a SSD hd here - my 13.10 box boots to the desktop in like 20 sec04:56
Dr_Willisthe bios/post screen takes longer then my bootup04:57
meh_tell dr_willis How did you get it to do that ?04:57
Dr_Willisi just installed a solid state drive. :) best investmnent in new hardware id done in years04:58
teosanruhello, I want to know if I can make two connections boding or internet services provided by the same company?04:58
Dr_Willisand it wasent that expensive04:58
meh_Dr willis : can this be done without buying hardware ?04:58
LLckfanDr_Willis tHERE IS NO HELP IN ##HARDWARE04:58
meh_does anyone know how to read bootcharts ?04:59
pfifomeh_: dont reboot... you dont have to in linux04:59
teosanruhello, I want to know if I can make two connections boding or internet services provided by the same company?04:59
Dr_Willisteosanru:  you mean 'bonding' ?04:59
meh_pfifo_: what do you mean ?05:00
vak!log05:00
ubottuOfficial channel logs can be found at http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/ . LoCo channels are now logged there too.05:00
Dr_Willismeh_:  some of my linux machines have month+ of uptime - rarely need to reboot them05:00
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pfifomeh_: no you cant speed up the boot process, however, linux is very stable and can be run for months at a time without having to shut down05:01
meh_Dr_Willis_:  So would one leave a machine in hibernate or sleep ?05:01
pfifomeh_: neither, just log out05:02
Ari-Yang01:02:10 up 1 day, 13:15, 3 users, load average: 0.16, 0.29, 0.2305:02
Ari-YangI rarely turn off my laptop, I just close it, meh_.05:02
meh_pfifo_: but I've heard of things to change with grub, and splash, and reading bootcharts. Wouldn't just logging out wear on a machine and use power ?05:02
pfifomeh_: so what if grub changes? it dosent require a reboot, who needs a splash if you never rebooting? keeping your machine warm is better that hot/cold cycles. and if your worried about power make sure to spin down your disks05:04
Dr_Willismeh_:  i tend to leave mine runnning.. or powered off.. i rarely use sleep or hibernate05:05
meh_dr_willis_ pfifo_ interesting. I guess with windows and macs one always shuts down...05:05
LiENUSpfifo, i cant figure out how to spin down my disk05:05
Dr_Willisactually i rarely shut down the windows machines either. ;)05:05
pfifoLiENUS: should be in the screensaver settings05:06
Dr_WillisMy disks spin down automatically- ive not had to touch anything05:06
LennyJrSO who knows how i fix my soundcard thats disabled?05:06
LiENUSpfifo, yeah i dunno05:06
pfifoDr_Willis: does you new ssd spin down XD05:06
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Dr_Williswell at least the external ones do.. Not sure about the internal.. its a SSD ;P05:06
LiENUSi dont think my disk can be spun down05:06
LennyJri disabled it by an ubuntu builtin called alsamixer05:06
meh_pfifo_ what is spin down a disk (sorry, still new to linux and computers in general)05:06
LiENUSsome intel 335 series 80gb05:06
pfifomeh_: I think it happens by default05:07
Dr_Willismeh_:  you dont use the disk for a while. it stops spinning and goes into a parked position05:07
Dr_Willisbut when you do go to use it again. it will take a moment or 2 to spin up and may make some noises05:07
meh_okay. It stops making noise....05:07
meh_So other than just not rebooting, no suggestions on reducing startup time ? For example, is it okay to transport a laptop that is not turned off ?05:08
Dr_WillisIt gets weird these days when you get a Fanless, SSD based pc going.. with No Noise whatsoever.05:08
pfifomeh_: computers dont use much power anyway when your afk... only when your gaming or mining bitcoins05:08
Dr_Willismeh_:  id turn it off befor moveing05:08
Dr_Willisor sleep/suspend/hibernate05:08
pfifomeh_: starting up from suspend is pretty quick05:09
LennyJri only know how to break linux, not fix it :)05:09
LiENUSstarting up from power off is pretty quick for me05:09
LiENUS a few seconds05:09
teosanruDr wills  hello, I want to know if I can make two connections boding or internet services provided by the same company?05:09
Dr_Williseven my netbook boots to xubuntu rather quickly05:09
meh_But how ?05:09
meh_I mean, My machine under OSX would start up fast.05:10
Dr_Willisteosanru:  'boding' makes no sence to me. You mean 'BOND' 2 connections into one faster connection?05:10
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LennyJrnot even a seasoned linux professional could  enable my soundcard again05:10
meh_But with  xubuntu it takes a long time!05:10
Dr_Williscould be OS-X is cheating.05:10
Dr_Willis;PO05:10
Dr_WillisI dont use apple hardware05:10
LiENUSssd makes booting instant05:10
LiENUSteosanru, your isp would have to support mlppp or something like it05:11
Dr_Willisi need an external USB SSD ;)05:11
teosanruyes Dr wills05:11
LiENUSmost dont05:11
teosanruyes, if I want to add two internet connections05:11
meh_Dr_Willis_ Yeah, some things aren't so compatible (ex. webcam due isight firmware)05:11
LiENUSthere are solutions to take advantage of multiple connections  though05:11
LiENUSit'll speed up multiple downloads but not single stream downloads05:11
LennyJrall newbs like me cant do it... i tried this to enable it.. lspci -v | grep A& -i "audio"05:11
pfifomeh_: I find my windows install only takes a few seconds to show the desktop, but to actually get things going and logged onto freenode takes a few minutes... its definatly cheating.05:11
reisiousb sticks are pretty high capacity these days, for cheap05:11
LiENUSround robin and the like05:11
meh_pfifo_ true. When xubuntu is ready. it's ready05:12
pfifomeh_: on the other hand, as soon as ubuntu shows the loging prompt its done, good to go05:12
meh_That said - is 100 seconds normal for startup time?05:12
pfifomeh_: seems average for a slower machine05:13
teosanrulienus,05:14
teosanruI have two internet connections on the same ISP. each of 20 megs and I want to add them as if they were a single Connection, somebody could say if this is possible in ubuntu 13.04?05:14
selig5 meh: Less than two minutes doesn't seem too bad.05:14
meh_pfifo_ okay05:15
LiENUSteosanru, not unless your isp supports mlppp05:15
LiENUSyou could do something similar05:15
LiENUSbut it wont give you a 40mb link it'll give you two 20 mbit links05:15
LiENUSso you could be downloading two different streams at 20mbit05:15
LiENUSbut not a single 40mbit stream05:15
teosanruI do not speak English, so I'm using translator slow to respond, I am speaking Spanish.05:16
Dr_Willisi think weechat has a google-translate script05:17
Dr_Willis!es | teosanru05:17
ubottuteosanru: En la mayoría de los canales de Ubuntu, se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español entre al canal #ubuntu-es; escriba "/join #ubuntu-es" (sin comillas) y presione intro.05:17
teosanrulienus:05:17
teosanruI have two 20 meg connection and I want to add them to get 40 in one PC05:20
teosanruhi lienus05:20
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teosanruhola05:21
Fleep_I'm running server 13.04, and of the life of me I can't understand why my Apache2 install is using /var/www as it's document root despite my VirtualHost directives. There is no reference to /var/www as a DocumentRoot anywhere under /etc/apache205:21
Fleep_It's kinda driving me crazy05:21
raven1Hi. Does anyone here think there's a reason that Ubuntu runs differently, as in glitchy, when it's installed via Wubi.exe?05:21
reisioraven1: many reasons05:22
raven1reisio, so it's not just me.05:22
raven1reisio, explain05:22
reisioordinarily with wubi you end up with a system that is installed into a _file_ on Windows' NTFS file system05:23
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reisiofor starters, that is quite a disadvantage05:23
raven1because NTFS is less effective?05:23
raven1Or is it just that since it's actually installed inside the windows partition things aren't seamless05:24
wilee-nileeraven1, The designer of wubi themselves said it was a tryout option not for longterm use.05:24
raven1wilee-nilee, i see05:24
wilee-nileesome have no choice though, so it works for them. raven105:25
raven1So if I want to dual boot, should I install a fresh Ubuntu first, use gparted to free up unallocated space, pop in the windows setup disk, install to the unallocated space, then use easyBCD to reinstate grub05:26
teosanru#ubuntu-es05:26
teosanruhola05:26
Roy_Ubuntu_13-04how can one script make another with an echo .. so echo "echo "read me" " >> file or what?05:27
datanetraven1 that works. Personally I like to install windows first and let Ubuntu setup handle the bootloader.05:27
Ari-Yangafaik it's easier to install windows first, raven105:27
raven1datanet if I do it that way, will windows setup let me make a partition that doesn't comprise the whole drive?05:27
reisioRoy_Ubuntu_13-04: foo $(foo)05:28
raven1or will I have to use the windows utility to resize partition05:28
Roy_Ubuntu_13-04heh05:28
datanetraven1 do you have a partition already on the drive you do not want to erase?05:28
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raven1datanet well, yes, actually, though I've resolved to erase it if I have to05:29
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Roy_Ubuntu_13-04echo $(echo "read this") >> file ???05:29
Roy_Ubuntu_13-04reisio?05:29
datanetraven1 Windows 7 and I assume 8 installer lets you setup your partitions. So using that you should be able to leave that partition in place.05:30
raven1datanet the thing is right now I have a mint partition that's 340 gb, and an ubuntu partition that's 117 gb. The one I don't want to lose is the mint partition, but grub is on the ubuntu partition05:30
reisioRoy_Ubuntu_13-04: oh05:30
h1n1Raven1 and why you need win7?05:30
reisioRoy_Ubuntu_13-04: just echo 'echo "read this"' >> file05:30
h1n1:305:30
themoebiusHey, I'm trying to add a user account on an ubuntu server that can sudo. I've added it to the sudo group but when I try sudo apt-get update it still asks for a password. This user account doesn't have a password.05:31
datanetSo you want to install windows over the Ubuntu partition. You can use EasyBCD or do it manually with a Ubuntu* live cd05:31
Roy_Ubuntu_13-04im having one script to make another that also has echo's05:31
h1n1Themoebius  set password to that user05:31
raven1h1n1 eve online.05:31
datanetraven1 ^ to reinstall your boot partition.05:31
h1n1+1 raven1 :)05:31
themoebiush1n1: it intentionally doesn't have a password - it uses public key authentication05:31
raven1h1n1 tried it in wine but it doesn't work and plus I have serious hardware and I wanna be able to take advantage of it05:32
themoebiusHow do I make it so it doesn't require a password to sudo05:32
Roy_Ubuntu_13-04ok cool thanks, got it05:32
Ben64themoebius: just because it doesn't need a password to ssh in doesn't mean it doesn't have a password05:32
peterrooneythemoebius: an account can use PKA and still have a password05:32
presoniccurrently on a box with a duel boot windows7/ubuntu installation, going to completely reinstall windows7 (to win8), will probably overwrite the boot sector, what's the best way to recover grub so i can duel boot again?05:32
raven1datanet, I tried this, but apparently the mint partition is the primary and windows doesn't want to install to a non primary05:32
h1n1Raven1 install windows on whatever partition you have, and use ubuntu live cd and reinstall bootloader05:33
reisiopresonic: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair05:33
presonick05:33
datanetraven1 ah I see. I'll look around unless someone else knows but I never had to mess with that.05:33
raven1windows refuses to install on the available partitions05:33
h1n1Raven1 that's sound like windows problem, microsoft should be able to help you ツ05:33
raven1LOL05:33
h1n1Hehehehehhee05:33
reisioyou need what... two primary partitions, and 20GB of space?05:34
raven1h1n1 I hope that was a joke05:34
h1n1I always serious05:34
raven1reisio I need two primary partitions and that's it05:34
raven1and I guess swap space but I don't even know what that is or how it works honestly05:34
h1n1Themoebius put NOPASSWD in sudoers file of your sudo group05:34
h1n1Ie %wheel ALL=(ALL) NOPASSWD: ALL05:35
themoebiush1n1: right now I have:      web     ALL=(ALL:ALL) ALL     in my sudoers05:36
awaadI have Ubuntu 13.04 installed. When I run "ls -l" on any directory it gives me the month name in Arabic. Any one can help to make it only English ?05:36
Ben64why does everyone insist that its the "wheel" group? wheel does not exist on ubuntu.05:36
h1n1Because i'm using archlinux05:36
Ben64well this is #ubuntu05:36
h1n1That doesnt mean I cannot help ubuntu ppl ツ05:36
raven1isn't arch like fedora05:37
h1n1It just an example and pls dont restrict yourself ... Learn linux not ubuntu05:37
TonyFluryhi - am i in the right place to ask about adding custom widgets to Glade ?05:37
raven1arch = not debian?05:37
sam113101"what if we reinvent the wheel?" "YES, let's call it sudo!"05:37
Ben64doesn't matter, its #ubuntu so everything here should be Ubuntu support05:37
h1n1Hahahaha05:37
h1n1Raven1 more reading in man sudoers05:38
h1n1Web     ALL=(ALL:ALL) NOPASSWD: ALL05:38
h1n1You can try without capital in Web05:38
Crazyzurferhow do I add a ppa source to my ubuntu's software center?05:39
Ben64!ppa | Crazyzurfer05:39
awaadAny one can help, please ?05:39
ubottuCrazyzurfer: A Personal Package Archive (PPA) can provide alternate software not normally available in the offical Ubuntu repositories - Looking for a PPA? See https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas - WARNING: PPAs are unsupported third-party packages, and you use them at your own risk. See also !addppa and !ppa-purge05:39
raven1crazysurfer sudo add-apt05:39
raven1crazysurfer sudo add-apt-repository*05:39
TonyFluryanyone able to help with glade ?05:39
Crazyzurfer!addppa05:39
ubottuSince Ubuntu 9.10, a !ppa can be added using a single command «  sudo add-apt-repository ppa:user/ppa-name » See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Ubuntu#Adding%20PPAs for more details05:39
teosanruhello, again someone can solve my doubt that so I can add two 20 Mb connections in ubuntu 13.04? in order to 40Mb download since I went to the room in Spanish but no one answers. I appreciate your answers05:40
h1n1Does it help raven1 ?05:40
raven1h1n1 does what help05:41
h1n1Put nopasswd tag in sudoer file05:41
h1n1Oh wrong person05:41
raven1why do that?05:41
raven1lmao05:41
teosanruhello, again someone can solve my doubt that so I can add two 20 Mb connections in ubuntu 13.04? in order to 40Mb download since I went to the room in Spanish but no one answers. I appreciate your answers05:41
h1n1I should go back on my weed now05:41
h1n1Sorry for that raven1 ;p05:41
h1n1Brb05:42
TonyFluryteosanru - it depends on a lot of things - including your router - I don't think that Ubuntu on it's own will bind two 20M connections into a single 40M connection  - but a router might be able to05:42
raven1I didn't think that would help me repartition my drive05:42
datanetraven1 I'd say use Gparted and delete the Ubuntu partition (After you've backed up what you need) and make a new partition and mark it as primary.05:42
raven1datanet does gparted let you do that?05:42
h1n1Yes this a problem using old crt monitor05:42
datanetraven1 Do that if you know how to reinstall the bootloader. Just in case.05:42
datanetraven1 Yes in the create partition section.05:42
datanetraven1 You can have up to 4 primary partitions in 1 drive.05:43
raven1datanet well normally I'd reinstall the bootloader via ubuntu live CD. but if windows is taking up that space then idk.05:43
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Ben64!grub | raven105:43
ubotturaven1: GRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub205:43
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raven1thank you ben6405:44
Roy_Ubuntu_13-04 datanet: raven1: i'd say if u going to be doing that get something like system rescue cd , it boots fast and gas gparted and other hdd utils05:44
teosanruTony, second had read online in ubuntu could be done, but I also say that with a router, that means you would have to buy a router and connect the two connections to the? no more configurations would be needed?05:44
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raven1I have another question05:45
TonyFluryteosanru - it depends what your router presents to your PC - if your router presents a single connection then you should be ok.05:45
raven1Does anyone know this. On LM13 I use compiz as my window manager, and it uses metacity as its window decorator. Does it work the same way in Ubuntu 12.04?05:46
h1n1See you guys05:47
TonyFlury!quit05:48
kristalhttps://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=923590 I hope Canonical agrees with this ticket.05:48
ubottuMozilla bug 923590 in General "Pledge never to implement HTML5 DRM" [Normal,Unconfirmed]05:48
reisiowhy would they...05:48
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kristalreisio: The industry has to be opposed to HTML DRM, it's a nightmareish can of worms05:49
reisionot any more than drm in general is05:50
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thinknowwhat would the commands for making another user(lets say john) how can i get john to start openvpn with sudo /etc/init.d/openvpn start -> Type n password -> Change dns > or do this automatically on startup05:57
PUPUHI ubuntu guys! do you have a level 4 remaster tool?05:58
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thinknowcant find any good material on this, just jabber05:58
[SKT]_RORYthinknow: Put it in a script05:58
[SKT]_RORYthinknow: I might not understand what you're asking though05:59
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Ownixthinknow: im confused as to what 'john' needs to do exactly06:01
TJ-thinknow: "man sudoers" - add a rule that allows 'john' to only run the desired commands, with or without a password, as root06:02
Dr_Willisthinknow:  you  can run commands as specific users at boot time via 'su' in the /etc/rc.local script.06:03
Dr_Willisto allow the user to do the command at any time. that would be the sudoers file :)06:03
Dr_Willisand you would most likely do 'sudo service openvpn start' not the /etc/init.d/whatever start   type command.06:04
TJ-thinknow: Alternatively, if what you really want is to have openvpn create a VPN at boot-time as a system service, simply create the appropriate openvpn client connection definition in /etc/openvpn/ and make sure openvpn isn't disabled. By default if installed it will start at boot. See also "/etc/default/openvpn" for defining which configurations to start automatically.06:04
TJ-thinknow: I assume you've already issued the client with an SSL certificate and had the openvpn server's CA sign it, and shared the CA.crt to the client, and possibly the TA.key if you're using UDP (as is the default)06:05
cathodehi06:07
LiENUShmm moving from amd64 ubuntu to i686 ubuntu seems to have fixed my unity performance problems06:08
reisiocathode: hi06:08
kristalLiENUS: Unity runs much better using xorg edgers graphics drivers for me06:10
LiENUSkristal, i'm guessing the amd64 drivers for my card either arent working or just have performance issues06:11
kristalLiENUS: What GPU?06:11
LiENUSlspci says an amd nee ATI RS482/RS485 radeon xpress 1100/115006:12
Roy_Ubuntu_13-04in a bash script how can i remove a folder ONLY if its empty06:12
reisioRoy_Ubuntu_13-04: rmdir06:13
Roy_Ubuntu_13-04so if there is anything in it it wont remove it06:13
reisioindeed, try it06:13
reisioLiENUS: I doubt it06:14
LiENUSreisio, doubt what?06:15
Roy_Ubuntu_13-04how could i protect aginst if on a system there is an alies .. a-lee-es .. cant spell .. that would do rm -R for just rm06:15
reisioLiENUS: it has anything in particular to do with the arch06:16
LiENUSreisio, performance under i686 is far better than the same install under amd64...06:16
cathodehey guys any suggestions on what I should run to use ubuntu as a MS RDP terminal server?06:16
reisioRoy_Ubuntu_13-04: rm --06:16
reisioRoy_Ubuntu_13-04: probably06:16
reisiolet's test it06:16
CcComWhat is more stable lts or 13.1006:17
PUPUlts06:17
reisioRoy_Ubuntu_13-04: nope :)06:17
reisioRoy_Ubuntu_13-04: using the full path should suffice06:18
Roy_Ubuntu_13-04well reisio so what was the outcome06:18
reisio$(which rm)06:18
reisiobut I'm not sure you should really bother06:19
reisioif people do silly things like alias core utils on their end, that's their problem06:19
Roy_Ubuntu_13-04this is a script that needs to be very carefull with the data, and the data will be going between machines06:20
Roy_Ubuntu_13-04in the future anyway06:20
reisiothere's not any amount of carefulness that can account for people doing stupid things with their system06:21
reisioif you want to be that careful, just prompt them for each deletion06:21
Roy_Ubuntu_13-04see when it comes to deleting , if there is anything, they will not want to delete it, and be warned to take sertin mesures before using this script, but if the folder is empty then its fine to delete06:23
Roy_Ubuntu_13-04reisio^06:23
reisioit's hard to imagine someone being upset over the removal of an empty directory06:24
reisiowhich is all rmdir does06:24
reisioI run 'rmdir *' regularly enough in various places, just to get rid of empty dirs06:25
Roy_Ubuntu_13-04no if empty they will not be upset, but if there is a single file in the dir, they will be pissed off06:25
reisiowell then it wouldn't be empty06:25
reisioand rmdir would fail06:25
[SKT]_RORYgg06:26
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CcComI have a geforce GTX 560 TI, how easy will it be to install the drivers on ubuntu 12.04?06:27
Dr_Willistheres a reason to have backups of everything ;)06:28
reisioCcCom: you'll probably get a popup immediately after installation, click, click, done06:28
reisioalthough you might be happy with the default drivers06:29
Dr_WillisCcCom:  its not part of a dual gpu optmims system is it?06:29
Roy_Ubuntu_13-04 reisio is there a way to force rmdir to remove a non-empty dir, and if so, what if for some reason they have an alias to do so, i want to guard aginst that06:29
reisioRoy_Ubuntu_13-04: nope, removing empty dirs is its sole purpose06:29
reisioif they've aliased rmdir to remove non-empty dirs, they deserve what they get06:30
Roy_Ubuntu_13-04is there a way to guard aginst it thow06:30
reisiosure06:30
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reisiobut it wouldn't be worth it06:30
Roy_Ubuntu_13-04can u tell me06:31
RoryRoy_Ubuntu_13-04: You can't stop people deleting files they have permission to delete06:31
reisiouse $(which rmdir) instead of just rmdir06:31
Roryor \rmdar06:31
Rory\rmdir06:31
Roy_Ubuntu_13-04for the reason thats a bit much to explane, there is a good reason06:31
Ben64sounds like a terrible script06:32
Roy_Ubuntu_13-04thanks Rory06:32
Roy_Ubuntu_13-04its an awesome script, and respectfull of the data on other machines06:33
reisio:)06:33
RoryRoy_Ubuntu_13-04: Then it should check if the directory is empty06:33
Ben64the whole thing seems extremely hacky. you've been asking basic bash stuff in here for hours06:34
Roy_Ubuntu_13-04then how to do that, thats what i wanted to do, only remove a dir ONLY if its empty06:34
Ben64everything from "how to get a user's home directory" to "rmdir"06:34
Ben64you should find a better way to do what you want06:34
RoryBen64: +106:34
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RoryRoy_Ubuntu_13-04: Rather than asking specific question about your script, why don't you tell us what your overarching goal is here?06:35
Ben64i mean, i've made my own terrible scripts too, but they are only used by me, not random people06:35
Roy_Ubuntu_13-04well my script will only be used by my friend, but may be used on random machines, no people06:36
RoryRoy_Ubuntu_13-04: What does your script do?06:36
Ben64you could ask in #bash06:37
Roy_Ubuntu_13-04my friend has very private data that is protected with ecryptfs.......06:37
reisioimagine that, private data that's encrypted :p06:38
Ben64so a rickety bash script is the answer?06:38
RoryRoy_Ubuntu_13-04: What does your script do?06:38
Roy_Ubuntu_13-04and the "Private" , ".Private" , ".ecryptfs" folders are on a usb drive, not in the home dir ...............06:38
Roy_Ubuntu_13-04Rory lets say you use ecryptfs as well do i ........06:39
RoryRoy_Ubuntu_13-04: What I use doesn't affect what you need to do. What does your script do?06:40
Roy_Ubuntu_13-04well i bring my drive over and u let me use your pc, so i plug my drive in and run the script, then use all my private data from usb, and not harming yours06:41
Roy_Ubuntu_13-04all behind the seens so no smarts are needed at all06:41
Rory...Someone else do this one please06:42
Dr_Willisthought he had it almost done. ;)06:42
Roy_Ubuntu_13-04its for my friend that will likely in the future just maybe run into that saniro, and i want to protect his data and his friends from clashing, or between a new and old pc he may have06:43
Ben64Roy_Ubuntu_13-04: doesn't seem like an ubuntu issue anyway, see if #bash wants to touch it06:43
Dr_Willisbetter  tel him to keep backups of tht data somewhere else unencrypted just in case06:43
fancyfetusHey guys06:44
vijayafacing problem while extracting rootstrap: in scratchbox06:44
vijayahow to solve06:44
vijayathis issue06:44
fancyfetusI have an "Error BrokenCount > 0"06:44
fancyfetusUbuntu kindly tells me to run apt-get install -f06:45
fancyfetusbut that throws even more errors.06:45
Roy_Ubuntu_13-04well if \rmdir will stop any alias and use the default, i can work with that ?06:45
Dr_Willispastebin the whole session/errors fancyfetus  for the chanel to see06:45
vijayafancyfetus: try to run in sudo mode06:46
Ben64Roy_Ubuntu_13-04: asking for trouble06:46
fancyfetushttp://pastebin.com/7L5R9hAs06:46
Roy_Ubuntu_13-04 Ben64 so what command doesnt delete, but checks to see if a folder is empty06:46
vijayahas anyone faced this rootstrap issue06:47
Dr_Willishttp://stackoverflow.com/questions/6162903/temporarily-disabling-an-alias-quoting-a-word-with-a-backslash06:47
Ben64Roy_Ubuntu_13-04: again, try #bash , this is not really an Ubuntu problem06:47
fancyfetusDr_Willis, let me know if you need any additional information06:49
Dr_Willisfancyfetus:  it dosent seem to like your video drivers package. how have you installed the fglrx drivers in the past?06:51
Dr_Willisdpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/fglrx-updates_2%3a9.012-0ubuntu1_amd64.deb (--unpack):06:51
Dr_Willis subprocess new pre-installation script returned error exit status 106:51
fancyfetusDr_Willis, I'm having issues with my current Xorg drivers, so I went to the additional drivers section and selected the fglrx driver06:52
Dr_Willisperhaps remove/reinstall the package in question06:52
fancyfetusthen it installed that.06:52
Dr_Willisor it could be it has some other issue with the package  it says   "One or more files have been altered since installation."   not sure what thats really saying in this case06:53
Dr_Willisunless some other package has altered files in that  fglrx-updates package files06:53
fancyfetusXorg is giving me a weird problem. I'm programming something that uses openGL. When I close the program. I get a blackscreen with a blinking cursor and a second later, I'm back at the login page.06:53
Dr_WillisX is crashing sounds like.06:54
Dr_Willisand lightdm is restarting it06:54
fancyfetusOkay, so I'll try removing fglrx-updates06:54
fancyfetusOkay it tells me which packages have unmet dependencies06:55
fancyfetushttp://pastebin.com/7L5R9hAs06:55
fancyfetusoops... ignore that.06:55
fancyfetusfglrx-amdcccle-updates <- has unmet dependencies06:56
helmut_hi06:57
Dr_Willismooo06:57
fancyfetusDr_Willis, okay, i removed the package with unmet dependencies06:58
fancyfetusWhich graphics driver should I use?06:58
fancyfetusI have a Radeon 6400M series with HP switchable graphics06:58
Dr_Willisthe only real options are the open sourced ones of the proparity fglrx ones06:58
Dr_Willisor the ...06:58
Dr_WillisI have no idea on how switchable gfx works on ati. I avoid ati whenever possible06:58
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fancyfetusThere are a lot of realy long, really hard to follow tutorials around...06:59
Dr_Willisnvidia and switchable gfs - uses bumblebee - no idea wht the ati-equilivent is06:59
fancyfetusAMD uses Catalyst06:59
Dr_Willisbut the stitchable part - may be the core of the issue.07:00
Dr_Willissince that uses intel+the other chips07:00
reisioswitcheroo?07:00
reisioI don't really follow it07:00
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Roy_Ubuntu_13-04how can have the script expect a certin reply and if it dont get it then dont continue... Are you sure you want to continue, If so please type "yEs" anything else will cancel07:03
sarvsavhello everyone07:03
reisioRoy_Ubuntu_13-04: ask #bash07:03
reisiosarvsav: hi07:03
sarvsavreisio: hi07:03
sarvsavi have a doubt,07:04
Dr_WillisRoy_Ubuntu_13-04:  you may want to go read the 'advanced bash scripting guide' it covers verything you have been aking about07:04
Dr_Willis!abs | Roy_Ubuntu_13-0407:04
ubottuRoy_Ubuntu_13-04: Advanced Bash-Scripting Guide, obtainable with ${package-manager} install abs-guide, is a quick and comprehensive guide to bash (command line) scripting in *nix systems. It is also viewable via web at http://tldp.org/LDP/abs/html/07:04
rubicI just started using dwb instead of firefox and I want to check that is has the same level of security as the major browsers, cant seem to find any info on the subject.07:04
sarvsavmy question is : i have a machine with no X11 environment as server, and on that i have configured X11 forwarding on, and i have a client with X11 environment running ubuntu07:05
reisiorubic: it has a webkit backend07:05
sarvsavIf i start the ssh session with my server, as ssh -X user@server07:05
sarvsavand gives gedit command . will it work?07:06
Dr_Willissarvsav:  it should07:06
Dr_Willisi always get -x and -X backwards ;)07:06
sarvsavon my client or local.07:06
reisioeasy way to find out07:06
Dr_Willisit runs on the server. but is displyed on your local07:06
Dr_Willisso 'client or local' makes no sence to me ;)07:06
reisiorubic: uh, webkit being that which is used by Safari (primary Mac OS browser) and Google Chrome :)07:06
Mehhallo07:07
reisiorubic: and also basically KDE's Konqueror07:07
Dr_Willisssh to server, run xterm, see if you get a xterm poping up07:07
reisiorubic: should be pretty fair07:07
reisioMeh: 'lo07:07
Mehjemand da?07:07
aeon-ltddeutsche?07:07
rubicreisio: and does that manage pretty much all of the web browsery bits (https, cookies, etc) not just rendering?07:07
aeon-ltd!de07:07
ubottuIn den meisten Ubuntu-Kanälen wird nur Englisch gesprochen. Für deutschsprachige Hilfe besuche bitte #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #edubuntu-de oder #ubuntu-at. Einfach "/join #ubuntu-de" eingeben. Danke für Dein Verständnis!07:07
reisiorubic: pretty sure, yeah07:08
reisiorubic: uses libsoup, too, popular lib07:08
rubicAh, thankyou very much. :)07:08
reisiorubic: if it had known security issues, it wouldn't be in the repos07:08
rubicyeah fair enogh07:09
rubicenough*07:09
hp_how to know if my processor is 32 or 64?07:15
Dr_Willisany known security issues.. would be like a bug.. and be hopwfully getting worked on.07:15
Dr_Willisnow an unknown security issue....07:15
Dr_Willishp_:  i seem to recall a flag in cat /proc/cpuinfo07:16
Dr_Willishttp://askubuntu.com/questions/133111/how-can-i-check-if-my-cpu-is-amd64-compatible/133123#13312307:17
reisiohp_: grep ' lm' /proc/cpuinfo07:17
workstation6!List07:18
ubottuworkstation6: No warez here! This is not a file sharing channel (or network); read the channel topic. If you're looking for information about me, type « /msg ubottu !bot ». If you're looking for a channel, see « /msg ubottu !alis ».07:18
reisiogrep ' lm' /proc/cpuinfo &> /dev/null && echo "yo dawg, it's 64-bit"07:18
Dr_Williswillis@1001PXD:~$ lscpu07:19
Dr_WillisArchitecture:          x86_6407:19
Dr_WillisMy netbook is 64bit ;) it seems07:19
hp_reisio:http://www.picpaste.com/Screenshot_from_2013-10-05_09_19_14-hyk8jQTO.png07:20
reisiomost things are, anymore07:20
reisiohp_: grep produces output if it finds the string you tell it to look for07:20
Dr_Willisdual core - such raw powar in a netbook. ;) yea.. right.. heh07:20
reisiohp_: so it found ' lm', which means your processor is 64-bit07:20
hp_so i can download ubuntu 13.10 46 bit?07:21
hp_6407:21
reisiohp_: 64-bit yes, go get it07:21
hp_Dr_Willis , reisio thanks07:21
Dr_Willishp_:  unless its a real old machine.. id bet its 64bit07:21
CcComHello!!!07:21
xyzonearm is the future for netbooks07:22
hp_Dr_Willis:its core 2 due 2.1 GHz with 2 GB ram07:22
Dr_Willisarm is supposed tobe  becomign 64bit i belive also.. but we will see what happens07:22
Dr_Willisi cant keep up with hardware news :) its just to much07:22
CcComI have an issue, My pc has Windows 8 on it.  I created a ubuntu usb 12.04. I booted up the computer and installed ubuntu. But when it finished and restarted windows loads up, it doesnt give me the two options. Can anyone help please.07:23
xyzoneeither way it won't be x86_64, obviously07:23
Dr_Willisnetbooks may not have much of a future. :)07:23
reisiothey have a future07:23
xyzonewell you can stop calling then netbooks, but that's pretty much what a tablet with a keyboard is07:23
jouffluGood evening or morning :-)07:23
reisiobut they'll be called laptops or ultrabooks07:23
TJ-The ARM cortex A57 is due out shortly, from AMD07:23
Dr_Willis!fixgrub | CcCom07:23
ubottuCcCom: GRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub207:23
Dr_WillisUltraUberbooks07:24
hp_how can i know if my video card VGA is 256 or 512?07:24
reisioit's unlikely to matter07:24
jouffluifconfig07:24
jouffluhp_: lspci07:24
TJ-hp_: Try this: sudo lspci -vvvnn -s $(lspci -nn | grep VGA | cut -d" " -f1) | grep 'Memory.* prefetchable'07:25
hp_joufflu:http://www.picpaste.com/Screenshot_from_2013-10-05_09_25_33-9hcdw7Zt.png07:26
hp_TJ:Region 2: Memory at 80000000 (64-bit, prefetchable) [size=256M]07:27
reisiohp_: if you put a space after the :, people can click the link07:27
TJ-hp_: That last part suggests it is 256MB07:27
hp_TJ: OMG is it powerful card? :(07:28
reisioit's onboard07:28
reisioso not particularly07:28
reisiobut that doesn't mean it won't wholly satisfy you07:28
hp_Reisio:can i increase it to 512 VGA?07:29
hp_anyway thank you guys .. you are alwayes smart,honest and experts07:29
reisiohp_: wait for there to be a problem to fix before you fix it07:30
hp_i dont understand reisio07:30
reisioI don't understand what your concern is07:30
TJ-hp_: 256MB is more than enough for most requirements! I run dual 1920x1200 screens on my laptop with that07:31
hp_my last question .. i'm core 2 due, 2GB ram and 256 VGA .. which will be faster on my machine? ubuntu 32 or ubuntu 64 with less problems?07:32
Dr_Willishp_:  i doubt if you will notice much differnace either way07:32
Dr_Willisi stick to 64bit on all my machines07:33
xyzone64bit can be faster, but only if the applications are optimized that way07:33
hp_ty Dr_Willis07:33
hp_ty xyzone07:34
reisiohp_: there's no particular reason to not use 64-bit software if your processor is 64-bit07:36
hp_first time i know i can use 64 bit .. so happy with that ^_^07:37
ikoniawhy would you be happy you could use something you appear to know nothing about ?07:37
Roy_Ubuntu_13-04can i ask a question about some mounting trickerory07:38
Dr_Willisyou could have just tried a 64bit usb ;)07:38
Dr_Willisask and see who can answer Roy_Ubuntu_13-0407:38
havvI have lubuntu 13.04, if I install XFCE will it be the same (or close to) as installing the whole xubuntu dist? I like how fast lubuntu is but I don't like the way it looks07:42
reisiohavv: basically the same07:42
reisiohavv: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/purexubuntu07:42
reisiocarcinogen75: hey... fix your connection :p07:42
Dr_Willisinstall the xubuntu-desktop package and have both havv07:43
Roy_Ubuntu_13-04not mounting partitions or images... but and example... on your desktop you mkdir abc && mkdir xyz && touch abc/a && touch abc/b && touch abc/c .... and the same with x,y,z inside xyz .....................07:43
kenn_hi all07:43
Roy_Ubuntu_13-04and mount abc onto xyz, so when in xyz you will see a,b,c .... and when u un-mount you will get xyz/x,y,z back07:44
carcinogen75reisio: i'm trying reinstall my video driver and rebooted some times. sorry07:44
kenn_would somebody try to compile this agere modem source package for me please07:44
fancyfetusHow do I see which version of xorg i have installed?07:44
havvin xubuntu desktop, can I create shortcuts to directories? because this pcmanfm won't let me07:44
fancyfetusand how to I reinstall it?07:44
kenn_http://linmodems.technion.ac.il/packages/ltmodem/11c11040/agrsm-11c11040-2.1.80-20110811.tar.bz207:44
ikoniaRoy_Ubuntu_13-04: what are you talking about ??? you're doing mkdir - then talking about mounting that directory07:45
Dr_WillisRoy_Ubuntu_13-04:  when you mount a filesustem over a directory with files.. you wont see the files again, untill uouu unmount the  filesystem07:45
Dr_Willishavv:  you can always use ln -s from the cli07:45
Roy_Ubuntu_13-04i know thants perfict, but can u do it from folder to folder not being an image or partition07:46
reisiofancyfetus: dpkg -l | grep -i xorg07:46
reisiofancyfetus: X -version07:46
ikoniaRoy_Ubuntu_13-04: you can bind mount, but why don't you explaing the REAL problem07:46
Dr_WillisRoy_Ubuntu_13-04:  from folder to folder Huh? You Mount a filesystem to a a directory.07:46
fancyfetusreisio, any idea how to reinstall it?07:46
user__hey can I get a good command line book for linux that has the FUNCTIONAL defination only07:47
fancyfetusor at least verify that the current install isn't broken?07:47
Dr_WillisRoy_Ubuntu_13-04:  if you want folder1 to point to folder2 - you can use a soft link for that07:47
reisioapt-get has a --reinstall option or something, IIRC, but I doubt it'll help07:47
ikoniauser__: you search the books contents, that is nothing to do with ubuntu07:47
reisiouser__: ?07:47
Dr_Willisuser__:  what do you mean by 'functional'07:47
ikoniauser__: or use the "man" page07:47
user__I mean only the usefull definations07:47
Dr_Willisand whats usefull defined as in this case?07:48
ikoniauser__: search books contents then, go to a library, it's not really an ubuntu issue07:48
reisiotry wikipedia.org07:48
user__sdkjfguiasdhnf07:48
Roy_Ubuntu_13-04Dr_Willis  ikonia , that way i dont have to worry about checking to see if stuff exists already using soft link, if i could do that i wouldnt have to delete existing to make soft link07:48
user__ok07:49
Dr_WillisRoy_Ubuntu_13-04:  im not clear on what you are doing.  and you really should check that stuff exists as part of  good practice in programing07:49
ikoniaRoy_Ubuntu_13-04: wht you are saying, makes no sense, please explain the REAL problem07:49
user__hey are here all humans07:50
Strituser__, Nah, I'm an alien07:50
reisioRoy_Ubuntu_13-04: you can mount over a mount point with no extra steps07:50
Roy_Ubuntu_13-04not a problem, making a solution / convenience, making something portable that isnt ment to be07:51
user__just joking07:51
ikoniaRoy_Ubuntu_13-04: there must be a problem if you are making a solution, for there to be a solution, there must be a problem07:51
ikoniahowever as you don't want to explain the real problem, we can't help, as your example means nothing07:52
Dr_Willisor course there maybe ways to allready do whatever it is you are needing to do ;)07:52
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Roy_Ubuntu_13-04the problem is my friend aint that smart when it comes to cli related stuff, and he wants his ecryptfs portable among other machines, and just for the sake one of his friends should use it to and he uses the friends machine, i dont want any one to have to worry about any data coliding, im making a script07:54
ikoniaRoy_Ubuntu_13-04: well, calling your friend "not smart" seems pretty foolish when you re also asking "how do I do it", secondly, moving around an encypted volume like that and the key is unwise, so I'd suggest your friend grows up and stops encypting it unless it's top secret data07:55
Roy_Ubuntu_13-04he is a retired cop so....07:56
ikoniaRoy_Ubuntu_13-04: that means nothing07:56
Roy_Ubuntu_13-04any way do u get what im doing07:57
ikoniaRoy_Ubuntu_13-04: I've given you my advice.07:57
Dr_Willishttp://askubuntu.com/questions/103835/securely-automount-encrypted-drive-at-user-login07:58
Roy_Ubuntu_13-04im doing it the best way for any thing he could possibly encounter in the future and still be covered and can access his data with no knowledge on how to manually fix it07:58
Roy_Ubuntu_13-04not the hole drive, just one folder07:59
ikoniaRoy_Ubuntu_13-04: use a hardware encypted USB07:59
ikoniaif the data is that important07:59
TJ-Roy_Ubuntu_13-04: You can achieve the 'see abc in xyz' using overlayfs08:00
Roy_Ubuntu_13-04can u tell me more about overlayfs08:00
Dr_Willisi wonder how much the encryptedfs stuff depends on ubuntu version.. be really bad if a new rleease totally broke it.08:00
ikoniaDr_Willis: this is why I'm saying a hardware device that is totally self enclosed, and actually doesn't cost much more than a USB device08:01
TJ-Roy_Ubuntu_13-04: As for multiple users having access to an encrypted file-system, if you use LUKS, then there are 7 key-slots for pass-phrases or key-files to unlock it.08:01
Roy_Ubuntu_13-04just depends on ecryptfs-utils08:01
Roy_Ubuntu_13-04multiple users having access to the external HDD but only him to just one folder08:03
TJ-Roy_Ubuntu_13-04: Arrange the mount-points correctly and that is entirely possible08:04
Roy_Ubuntu_13-04TJ- can u make an example08:04
TJ-Roy_Ubuntu_13-04: I build laptops that have LUKS-encryped GRUB boot partition, separate LUKS-encrypted LVM VG containing multiple LVM logical volumes, each of which can be LUKS-encrypted, with ecryptfs used on user home directories. The keys can be shared or entirely separate, pass-phrase and/or key-files, etc.08:05
Roy_Ubuntu_13-04the folder paths im wanting to mount to each other are not the mount point to a fs, but folders with in 2 different fs's08:05
TJ-Roy_Ubuntu_13-04: sounds like a job for overlayfs then08:06
Roy_Ubuntu_13-04i dont see a command called overlayfs, can u tell me more?08:07
TJ-Roy_Ubuntu_13-04: it isn't a command, it is the Overlay File-System (FS)08:07
ikoniaRoy_Ubuntu_13-04: if this is the level of your research, I again STRONGLY advise you not to go down this path08:07
Roy_Ubuntu_13-04would this require a format?08:07
gordonjcpRoy_Ubuntu_13-04: sounds like you're overcomplicating something08:08
gordonjcpRoy_Ubuntu_13-04: what exactly are you trying to do?08:08
TJ-Roy_Ubuntu_13-04:  if you install the package "linux-doc" you'll find details in "/usr/share/doc/linux-doc/filesystems/overlayfs.txt.gz"08:09
Roy_Ubuntu_13-04i wish i could use voice08:09
Rorygordonjcp: He's trying to encrypt a flash drive08:09
Roy_Ubuntu_13-04just one folder on the external usb HDD08:09
gordonjcpaha!08:09
RoryRoy_Ubuntu_13-04: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FolderEncryption08:09
Roy_Ubuntu_13-04and have it portable among different machines08:09
gordonjcpRoy_Ubuntu_13-04: okay, create a file containing the filesystem, and make an encrypted fs *in the file*08:10
gordonjcpRoy_Ubuntu_13-04: read about "loopback filesystems"08:10
TJ-Roy_Ubuntu_13-04: make the folder a mount-point for an ecryptfs volume, or make it the mount-point for a full encrypted file-system (either contained in a file or a raw partition/LV)08:10
Roy_Ubuntu_13-04of those thats replied, who uses ecryptfs? and ill make an example08:12
TJ-Roy_Ubuntu_13-04: If it has to be truly portable to other Ubuntu/Debian PCs, then you might consider placing the package .deb files for the encrpytion support on an unencrypted part of the device so they can be installed even if the target device has no network connection, and doesn't have the packages installed already.08:12
ikoniajust buy a small hardware encypted usb device,08:13
ikoniaremove the risk, remove the lack of needed skillset,08:13
RoryThat's actually a really good idea08:13
TJ-Roy_Ubuntu_13-04: My advice is, build some small test-cases and try them out, then decide which meets your requirements best. There's nothing better than experimenting, and comparing different solutions08:13
ikoniaremove the dependency on the OS08:13
Dr_Willishow do you typw in the password on an   hardware encrypted usb? ;) a little bitty keyboard?08:15
ripthejackerhow do I add new mimetype in ubuntu?08:15
Roy_Ubuntu_13-04i got to go for a while08:17
Roy_Ubuntu_13-04encfs was doing something my friend didnt want, and i discover an exploit, he didnt want it08:18
TJ-Sounds like pen and paper would be more secure :p08:19
Roy_Ubuntu_13-04and cryptkeeper would not work, the gui08:19
Dr_Willisand if it has been patcched/fixed.. it wouldent matter08:19
ripthejackerI have a program called racket that I need to associate with .rkt files. How can I do it?08:20
ripthejackerSo how can I add a mimetype for it?08:20
Roy_Ubuntu_13-04it hasnt, i could get hold of your machine and make the os open up the encfs even after u make it not auto do it08:20
gordonjcpRoy_Ubuntu_13-04: I find that hard to believe08:21
Roy_Ubuntu_13-04well i saw how to do it08:21
Roy_Ubuntu_13-04he wants his system on auto login cause of GF and kids, and once i figure out how to now make it auto mount in login, if u knew the system, its an easy undo, and its back on auto login08:24
Roy_Ubuntu_13-04make it Not*08:24
Roy_Ubuntu_13-04on log in08:24
ars23one of my friends have bad blocks on her hdd, can she repair or mark those sectors using e2fsck?08:38
Dr_Willisi was thinking fsck does that automatically. but id be making backups regullary08:38
k1l_yep, fsck does that. but it can only cover a few badblocks. and when badblock come up, most times it is not long until there are too many bad blocks08:40
TJ-bad blocks is an indicator if impending failure. Check the SMART log using  package "smartmon-tools" and "sudo smartctl -a /dev/sdX"08:41
ars23thanks k1l_08:41
munsterethrecently installed ubuntu. magnet link doesn't point to transmission. there aren't even any programs in the 'choose app' list even though transmission is installed. don't know where transmission is on the computer? when i go to firefox preferences / applications,  magnet is not in the list so......?08:42
Dr_Willischecked at askubuntu.com yet? i think magnet links worked for me  but they loaded into ktorrent08:44
ars23yes, she used smart tools and she found almost 63 bad sectors... i suggested her to use:e2fsck -c -f -p /dev/device  it's a good idea?08:44
Dr_Willishttp://askubuntu.com/questions/122930/how-to-make-firefox-open-magnet-links-in-transmission08:45
lesshastexpdf seg faults whenever I try to open a pdf in 13.0408:51
lesshasteis this a known problem?08:51
Dr_Willischeck bug reports?08:55
lesshasteDr_Willis, oh that's clever.. the automatic crash reporter told me it was  a duplicate08:57
lesshastehttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xpdf/+bug/94319508:57
ubottuUbuntu bug 943195 in xpdf (Ubuntu Raring) "xpdf.real crashed with SIGSEGV in GooHash::hash()" [High,Triaged]08:57
Dr_Willisgoohash ;)08:58
lesshasteDr_Willis, amazingly it is just completely broken and they haven't fixed it yet!08:58
lesshasteyou might have thought this was high priority for someone :)08:58
Dr_Willisi dont think  xpdf is  the default pdf reader app08:59
RoryIt isn't, that would be a hilarious showstopper if it was08:59
Rory"Ubuntu PDF reader doesn't do its one job"08:59
Dr_Willishonestly - i rarely read pdf's  - about the only pdf i recall reading last time was a MagPi Issue. and they got it in other formats now.09:01
Dr_Willisim not even sur what Sigsegv means.09:01
bekksmemory segmentation fault.09:03
bekksEither that application is broken, the pdf does weird things in xpdf, or the RAM of the computer is defective.09:03
Dr_Willisor all of the above. ;)09:05
Roryyeah but only one at a time09:05
bibi_i try to install nvidia in ub 12.04 and after all steps i recevi this on terminal WARNING: Unable to locate/open X configuration file.  New X configuration file written to '/etc/X11/xorg.conf'  root@bibi:/home/bibi#  can you help me09:07
peterrooneyI would have sworn the default was evince09:07
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bekksbibi_: Whats the problem with "I cant find a file, I will create it."?09:08
Guest11198hi ev09:08
Guest11198any body from ukraine09:08
Dr_WillisI dont need a xorg.conf file for my nvidia systems bibi_09:08
Dr_Willisbibi_:  it made a new xorg.conf file - so whats the issue bibi_ ?09:09
Guest11198what is better ubuntu or windows09:10
cfhowlett!ot|Guest11198,09:10
ubottuGuest11198,: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!09:10
Dr_WillisGuest11198:  minix09:11
gulag2013That is impossible to answer. What do you want from your computer?09:11
bibi_i can't set the nvidia driver i09:11
Guest11198ok thanks ubottu09:11
Dr_Willisbibi_:  all i ever do is instgal the nvidia driver. reboot. run  nvidia-settings to tweak them09:11
Guest11198wahat is this room for ubottu09:12
Guest11198what09:12
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cfhowlettGuest11198, look this is easy.  ubuntu is free to try.  do so.  if you like it, install it.  if not, use windows.09:12
Guest11198i have them both cfhowlett09:13
Dr_WillisGuest11198:  and your ubuntu related support question is wht exactly?09:13
bibi_how i run the nvidia settings?09:13
* cfhowlett ... facepalms into his keyboard ...09:13
Dr_Willisbibi_:  'nvidia-settings' from a terminal is one way09:13
bibi_You do not appear to be using the NVIDIA X driver.  Please edit your X configuration file (just run `nvidia-xconfig` as root), and restart the X server.09:14
Guest11198i like more ubuntu interface  security usage  but gaming is much easier on windows  but im still discovering ubuntu if you know any tricks tell me09:14
bekksbibi_: Then do it.09:14
cfhowlett!steam|Guest11198,09:14
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geektech713stream is on ubuntu already09:15
Guest11198ok thank you veryy much09:15
Guest11198thats nice09:16
cfhowlettgeektech713, yeah, seems that factoid is a bit dated.09:16
geektech713oh ok09:16
bibi_same Using X configuration file: "/etc/X11/xorg.conf". Backed up file '/etc/X11/xorg.conf' as '/etc/X11/xorg.conf.backup' New X configuration file written to '/etc/X11/xorg.conf'09:17
bekksbibi_: And whats the problem with that?09:17
Guest11198damm i love to buy a gaming pc  ho got one tell me about it09:17
bekksGuest11198: thats not related to ubuntu.09:17
Dr_Willisif it says the nvidid drivers are not in use.. they may have failed to install09:17
cfhowlettGuest11198, you are seriously offtopic.  please to go the other channel.  thank you.09:17
cfhowlett!ot09:17
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Guest11198ohh soryyy this chat is for questions related to ubuntu09:18
bibi_now my nvidia is not working09:18
Guest11198ok im veryy soryy i didnt know that by09:18
bibi_i want to see the settings for nvidia but said i am not using xorg09:19
SusningGuys. I've been trying to access my keyboard and mouse after installing Ubuntu 12.04 and 13.04. I have mouse during install and keyboard  as well. Keyboard works after installation during grub. When X Windows starts there is no reaction what so ever on mouse nor keyboard. Keyboard is Logitech K800 (Wireless through Unify), mouse if USB-cable Logitech G500. The wierd thing is that both mouse and keyboard works on eOS (which is based on 09:20
Susning...and of course Windows.09:20
TJ-Susning: Are they connected via USB, or some other bus?09:22
alexiabonjour... J'ai un souci. Je suis nul en info et je n'arrive pas à installer un navigateur internet sur mon vieil ordi. A chaque fois il me répond "le téléchargement des paquets a échoué, veuillez vérifier votre connexion...09:22
SusningI've seen many others talking about issues overall with Logitech Unify keyboards. I don't know why the mouse which is usb-cable hassles though. The thing is most solutions I see seems to involve having other mouse/keyboards available, which I don't.09:23
gulag2013Check to make sure hardrive are first boot priority, remove all flash and exernal disks09:23
TJ-!fr | alexia09:23
ubottualexia: Nous sommes desoles mais ce canal est en anglais uniquement. Si vous avez besoin d'aide ou voulez discuter en français, veuillez taper /join #ubuntu-fr ou /join #ubuntu-qc. Merci.09:23
Dr_WillisHmm. Unifiying keyboard and mouse have neer given me issues.09:23
Dr_Willistheres even a unifying  config tool now called.. 'solaar'09:24
SusningDr_Willis: Ok. No it doesnt either, in any other OS/distro. Just Ubuntu 12.04 and 13.04.09:24
bibi__i try to restart x server and now my rezolution is 800x600 can you help me please09:24
gulag2013I have logetech are famous for losing signal09:24
Dr_WillisIm on 13.10 here. ;)09:24
SusningDr_Willis: Yes but I'm a bit from that since I can't login, can't write nor control mouse, and CTRL+ALT+F1 does nothing.09:24
gulag2013you have to sync them back all the time09:24
Dr_WillisSusning:  try booting to text mode if it works in the grub menu09:24
Dr_WillisCant say ive ever had to sync any of mine.   2 unifying keyboards. 3 mice.09:25
Dr_Williswell one keyboard is that one that has a touchpad also. :)  i like that one.09:25
Susningmine can't sync, there are no buttons for syncing.09:25
SusningDr_Willis: What should I do if I'm in terminal mode then?09:26
Susning...if i get there.09:26
discobiscuitWhich of these two filesystems are better/more compatible with Xubuntu 12.04: NTFS or exFAT?09:27
discobiscuitI ask because those are the only two options I have when it comes to reformatting my Ext HDD.09:27
cfhowlettdiscobiscuit, default is ext4 - suggest you go with that09:27
Dr_Willisid enable the ssh server so you can get in via ssh later - when the thing acts up so you an check out the logs and hopefully trouble shoot it better09:27
discobiscuitFor an external HDD?09:27
Dr_Willisdiscobiscuit:  what are you formating it with?09:27
gulag2013No don't recommend ext4, if you are going to share with Windows09:28
discobiscuitIt's plugged into my Windows (7 Ultimate x64) machine right now.09:28
Dr_Willisshareing with windows - use ntfs normally.09:28
Dr_Willisdiscobiscuit:  windows dosent know any othe rfilesystem then ntfs, and vfat. :)09:28
discobiscuitIt's a 500GB Seagate Ext HDD. I use it to read/write files to and from Xubuntu AND Windows 709:28
Dr_Willisdiscobiscuit:  so use ntfs if you need it wo worh with windows09:28
discobiscuitOkay.09:28
gulag2013If that is all it will be for use NTFS, for stranger things like playstations and alike use fat3209:29
discobiscuitWindows will only let me format it to NTFS or exFAT.09:29
Dr_Willisand exfat is vfat.09:29
Dr_Willisfat3209:30
Dr_Willisi think. ;)09:30
gulag2013oh, lets use gparted for fat32, but I believe ntfs should fill your needs09:30
discobiscuitI thought FAT32 has a size limit though?09:30
gulag2013it does 4gig file sizes09:30
SusningDr_Willis: If that is needed to be able to use my hardware to first boot after installation I guess Ubuntu isn't for me yet. Thanks.09:30
discobiscuitBecause it's a 500GB Ext HDD.09:30
munsterethok, i had been http://askubuntu.com/questions/122930/how-to-make-firefox-open-magnet-links-in-transmission but missed the footnote to make changes in about:config. The instructions are for karmic, i'm using 12.04.3 with the package firefox. i put in those about:config lines, reopened firefox but magnet is still not in the list under preferences/applications ?09:30
Dr_WillisSusning:  ive had no issu with my logitech stiff. if you dont want to touble shoot.. well have fun.09:31
cfhowlettmunstereth, magnet isn't an application.  the app you want to ASSIGN to magnet is transmission09:31
SusningDr_Willis: At least I need to put it of for another occation. I have no other machine then my phone to connect through SSH. I've used Logitech stuff before on Ubuntu. Which I had more hardware here but now I'm kind of stuck. I actually did a rescue boot to try to choose terminal mode and the keyboard stops reacting there as well.09:33
SusningI have keyboard interaction at grub, but after grub, it's dead. and it was after that i came to the meny to choose terminal console.09:33
munsterethbut how to do that? that link suggests you can by finding magnet under applications...?09:33
Dr_WillisSusning: You did try the basics things like putting it in a differnt port?09:33
nhazgood day to all09:33
SusningDr_Willis: Yes, all other ports, waited for different amount of time etc.09:34
cfhowlettmunstereth, firefox>edit>preferences>content type>magnet>action: use transmission09:34
Dr_WillisSusning:  you might want to check askubuntu.com also. there may be some known issues and work arounds09:34
nhazhi09:34
TJ-Susning: That is usually an indication that BIOS is providing legacy USB service (which GRUB calls upon) but after the OS has loaded a suitable driver isn't there, or the USB hub/device has failed to configure correctly09:34
SusningDr_Willis: What really baffels me it that eOS works which is based on 12.04 and should have pretty much the same hardware support as i understand it.09:34
Dr_WillisSusning:  the kernel version and X version are the  critical bits. could be theres just some quirky bug going on09:35
SusningTJ-: That is how I understood it from reading, as well.09:35
SusningDr_Willis: TJ- I could install 13.04, or 12.04  - and reach those partitions from a live cd. if there is something i could edit, some config file or so.09:36
ArielX_hello people I use Ubuntu 13.04 but doesnt recognise my USB pendrive09:36
SusningI'll be back later regarding this. Of course Dr_Willis I should put some time in looking for the solution before giving up.09:36
SusningThanks for now. bbl09:36
Dr_Willisbbl.09:37
bibi_stie cineva cum instalez nvidia am rulat ca root xconfig si am rezolutia de 800 si nu stiu ce dracu sa ai mai fac09:37
munsterethcontent type?....i have content09:37
bekksbibi_: we dont understand you, I guess :)09:37
cfhowlett!paste09:38
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ArielX_hello people I use Ubuntu 13.04 but doesnt recognise my USB pendrive09:39
bazhang!ro | bibi_09:39
ubottubibi_: Daca doriti ajutor sau doriti sa discutati despre Ubuntu/Kubuntu/Xubuntu, intrati pe #ubuntu-ro09:39
bibi_bekks i try to open nvid settings and ask me to run nv xconf as a root,i did that and now th resolution is 800x60009:39
bekksArielX_: Unplug it, wait 10s, plug it back in, wait 10s, and then pastebin dmesg please.09:40
k1l_ArielX_: put the last ~50 lines of "dmesg" into a pastebin after you plugged it in your computer09:40
munsterethcfhowlett: content type ?09:40
k1l_!paste | ArielX_09:40
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bekks"nv xconf"?09:40
cfhowlettmunstereth, http://imagebin.org/27281309:40
bibi_nvidia-xconfig09:41
cfhowlettmunstereth, sorry.  seems I left "Applications" out of the mouse click string09:41
bazhangmunstereth, you need to assign an app to the magnet09:41
bazhangmunstereth, browse to it, and click the app09:41
munsterethmagnet is not in the list under apps though?09:43
bazhangmunstereth, you launch the magnet, it asks you for an app to assign it to09:43
bibi_bekks can you help me?09:44
munsterethno apps in that list to choose from either but transmission is installed09:44
bazhangmunstereth, you then browse to  the app Transmission, and assign Transmission ot the magnet09:44
bekksbibi_: How did you install your nvidia driver?09:44
bibi_from terminal09:44
bazhangmunstereth, browse to it09:44
bekksbibi_: How?09:44
munsterethbazhang: no apps in that list to choose from09:45
A1ReconI have to fresh install windows and ubuntu again. I have 2 partitions on the primary HDD. One for Win and the other for ubuntu. Can I go ahead with the Win Installation??09:45
gulag2013does it give you the option to search folders? I have had this happen before?09:45
cfhowlettA1Recon, sound legit.09:45
bibi_with this sudo add-apt-repository ppa:ubuntu-x-swat/x-updates sudo apt-get update sudo apt-get install nvidia-current nvidia-settings09:45
bekksA1Recon: sure.09:45
cfhowlett!who09:45
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bekksbibi_: Why did you use that PPA?09:46
k1l_A1Recon: i would at least make 2 partitions for ubuntu. 1 for /home and 1 for /. and you should consider having a /swap if needed09:46
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ArielX_http://paste.ubuntu.com/6195776/09:46
bibi_i fiind on ubunt http://askubuntu.com/questions/192025/ubuntu-12-04-terminal-only-after-nvidia-driver-upgrade09:46
bekks!ppa | bibi_09:47
ubottubibi_: A Personal Package Archive (PPA) can provide alternate software not normally available in the offical Ubuntu repositories - Looking for a PPA? See https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas - WARNING: PPAs are unsupported third-party packages, and you use them at your own risk. See also !addppa and !ppa-purge09:47
bekksbibi_: Thats why you should not use PPA.09:47
ArielX_k1l_http://paste.ubuntu.com/6195776/09:47
ArielX_k1l_:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/6195776/09:48
bibi_what can i use?09:48
bekksbibi_: Do not use the PPA. I suggest uninstalling it again.09:49
bekks!ppapurge | bibi_09:49
ubottubibi_: To disable a PPA from your sources and revert your packages back to default Ubuntu packages, install ppa-purge and use the command: « sudo ppa-purge ppa:<repository-name>/<subdirectory> » – For more information, see http://www.webupd8.org/2009/12/remove-ppa-repositories-via-command.html09:49
bibi_sudo apt-get --purge remove nvidia-*09:50
bekksbibi_: Read the links given please.09:50
ArielX_k1l_ :   http://paste.ubuntu.com/6195776/09:52
A1ReconHey can I install 64bit win 8 in a PC with 32-bit processor?09:53
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munsterethWhen I click on the magnet link to launch an app to download, there are no apps in the list to browse through.  following the instructions here http://askubuntu.com/questions/122930/how-to-make-firefox-open-magnet-links-in-transmission,  to here http://imagebin.org/272813, magnet is not in the list. The suggested adjustment to about:config as per here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1416277 has no apparent effect on the situa09:53
bekksA1Recon: Obviously no.$09:54
bekksA1Recon: a 32bit processor is not capable of 64bit.09:54
A1ReconOK09:54
cfhowlettmunstereth, what version ubuntu are you running?09:54
munstereth12.04.309:54
munsterethjust installed09:55
cfhowlettmunstereth, note that the first link if for an end of life version of ubuntu.  Did you actually add the ppa?09:55
ggherdovHello. I have dnsmasq installed (`dnsmasq -v` ---> "Dnsmasq version 2.65 [...]") but `service dnsmasq status` gives "dnsmasq: unrecognized service". I am confused.09:56
ArielX_bekks : http://paste.ubuntu.com/6195776/09:57
munsterethcfhowlett: i didn't add any ppa...still gotta learn what that is09:58
ggherdovmunstereth: it's a way to pollute your system with random people's code.09:58
bibi_bekks, i have that ppa-purge now what?09:58
cfhowlettmunstereth, not needed for our purposes.  OK, I'm on Ubuntustudio which is a bit different from vanilla ubuntu.  you do have transmission installed?09:58
munsterethcfhowlett: yes09:59
cfhowlettmunstereth, and under applications>content type, "magnet" does not appear?09:59
k1l_ArielX_: should work. what is the problem with that stick?10:00
cfhowlettffox>edit>preferences>applications>content type   *magnet*10:00
munsterethcfhowlett: there is no 'content type' under applications10:01
cfhowlettmunstereth, in firefox?!  difficult to believe ...10:02
ArielX_ubuntu 13.04 wont see my usb/stick10:02
ArielX_k1l_: ubuntu 13.04 wont see my usb/stick10:02
bazhangArielX_, the stick has some issue then10:02
munsterethcfhowlett: 'content' is an alternate tab to 'applications' but magnet appears in neither10:03
cfhowlettuse the search function to search for magnet on that page10:03
ArielX_no its good10:04
munsterethcfhowlett: did that....negative result10:04
ArielX_i use it in windows10:04
cfhowlettmunstereth, ok that's a whole nother issue.  I don't know how to add content types to firefox and that seems to be what your 're indicating is needed.10:05
bekksArielX_: As can be seen in dmesg, the stick IS detected properly. Just mount it manually.10:05
cfhowlettmunstereth, so THIS is what is not working, right?    http://imagebin.org/27281510:05
munsterethcfhowlett: ok so 'content type' is the list title under applications but magnet is not in the list10:08
bazhangmunstereth, I've told you how to do this several times10:08
cfhowlettmunstereth, see bazhang's instructions or try a different browser ... google chromium for instance10:09
bazhangmunstereth, its not difficult at all, not in the slightest10:09
bazhangmunstereth, or see cfhowlett 's suggestion10:09
munsterethbazhang: yes you said browse to the app once you click on a magnet link...problem is that there are no apps to browse to10:10
gulag2013i believe you can link them10:11
munsterethbazhang and cfhowlett, if you haven't come across this problem there doesn't seem anything on the web tah shows how to fix it.10:14
bazhangmunstereth, I do it every time I set up transmission10:15
munsterethbazhang: what you told me though, doesn't apply10:16
bazhangI would doubt theres a tutorial for some thing like that, its not complex10:16
bazhangmunstereth, where are you browsing10:16
lesshastecan rhythmbox rip a cd?10:16
lesshasteor is that just brasero?10:17
gulag2013I would say start with pointing it towards your transmission10:17
cfhowlettlesshaste, IIRC rbox is only for playing so no ripping10:17
munsterethbazhang: ah..so you know of a link?10:17
bazhangmunstereth, no, it's very easy to do: click magnet, box pops up asking you to assign app to it, browse to transmission, click on it, finished10:18
cfhowlettbazhang, actually, where exactly to look for the apps?  my search brings me to my /home but no apps so ... where?10:19
gulag2013Maybe this is it? /usr/bin/transmission-gtk10:19
munsterethbazhang: clearly you haven't read my responses to that. there are no apps shown in the box to browse to.10:19
bazhangcfhowlett, which transmission should show where10:20
bekksmunstereth: Isnt there some button like "more" or "browser" in that box?10:20
bazhanggulag2013, has it yes munstereth10:20
gulag2013Was I right?10:21
bazhangmunstereth, browse that path10:21
cfhowlettbazhang, yeah but found it. but the "which" command has to be PERFECT i.e. no transmission* found nothing, but transmission-gtk found it in /urs/bin10:22
bazhangcfhowlett, apologies10:22
gulag2013I found it using locate *transmission*10:22
gulag2013terminal10:22
bazhangyeah my bad10:23
gulag2013Anyway, I just learned that most of those executable are going to be in either /usr/bin or /bin folders10:23
munsterethbazhang: path? it just says choose an application but offers none to choose from. when i click choose it opens the computer filing system but where is transmission located?10:25
cfhowlettgulag2013, ah, nice.  my terminal foo is clearly not as good as yours.10:25
gulag2013No trust me dude, I'm just learning how to mv and cp files.10:25
zidohdoes anybody know how to get spotify open.spotify links to open in spotify (linux version) instead of opening the play.spotify site on ubuntu 13.04?10:26
zidohin chromium.. googling gives a lot of non-working answers for older versions of ubuntu10:26
ceborSince i updated from v12 to v13 IntelliJ has a very big and bold menu font under Ubuntu is this a bug or a feature? (running under open-jdk-7)10:27
Peri_1Hello. I've just installed another HDD in my Ubuntu 12.04 machine. I was  wondering if there is any advantage in converting it from NTFS to ext4. The HDD will be for storage, so can be one big partition.  Most obliged for advice.10:27
gulag2013If you using for storage only. I would say NTFS all the wya10:28
gulag2013way. You may want to pull it out and share it with Windows boxes. So keeping it NTFS is a good idea10:28
gulag2013‌Windows can not natively read EXT partitions.10:29
Peri_1Yup. I was thinking along those same same lines.10:29
Peri_1if it is NTFS, that won't slow things down?  (the drive is 3TB)10:30
gulag2013Well, my question would be have you ever felt your drives were to slow using Windows? To be honest I have never tested against a EXT drive.10:32
gulag2013We are talking backups correct. You should be fine10:33
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Peri_1No I have not. I have a PC running XP and it performs about the same as the Ubuntu box. Interestingly an ASUS laptop i5  running win 8, is as slow as a wet week.10:36
Peri_1Transmission downloads.10:37
gulag2013Well that could be so many things on a laptop. You don't know slow until you work on my Acer Netbook10:37
gulag2013Anyway, my desktop I have on ssd split in half for dual boot. Then I have one d drive that is ntfs that I share with Windows and Ubuntu10:38
hp_i686 = 32-bit Intel x86 arch10:44
hp_x86_64 = 64-bit Intel x86 arch10:44
hp_is that right sentences?10:44
Peri_1yeah, I had an msi netbook....win 7 starter....slow like a slug. But it sped up a lot with ubuntu. am pretty disappinted with the asus laptop. will see how it goes with a live ubuntu.10:44
munsterethgulag2013: so do you know how to access user/bin while browsing the gui file system? nothing comes up under a search for transmission in it, even though it is installed10:45
gulag2013munstereth, Sure are you ready10:47
munsterethgulag2013: yeah!10:47
gulag2013First enable hidden folders and files.10:47
gulag2013Oh the easiest way, is gksudo Nautilus in the terminal gives you root. Don't blame me if you delete anything becareful10:49
gulag2013lower case nautilus, Linux is so sensitive10:49
gulag2013You should be able to view /usr/bin even without root. Just click "filesystem" then /usr then /bin10:51
munsterethgulag2013: ok so did 'cntl h' in the user folder -folder with my name on it10:53
gulag2013munstereth, try "filesystem" Not your home folder10:54
munsterethgulag2013: hmm, no hidden folders showing up under 'filesystem'10:56
Dr_Willisfilesystem is /  i thought.  what are we looking for? ;)10:57
gulag2013You are trying to find "transmission" right? I10:57
munsterethyes10:57
gulag2013I'm trying to show you were it is10:57
munsterethi know10:57
Dr_Willis  ~/.config/transmission  perhaps? or ~/.transmission10:57
gulag2013Fileysystem then /usr/bin10:57
Dr_Willisoh the path to transmission. ;)10:58
Dr_Willisthe gui binary is called transmission-gtk i think.10:58
gulag2013Dr_Willis,. I have learned that executables are in /usr/bin and /bin. Where else do they place them?10:58
Dr_Willisgulag2013:  the command 'which transmission-gtk' will show i imagine10:59
Dr_Willis /usr/bin /usr/local/bin    Hmm.. not sure where else10:59
gulag2013Yes, we determined that -gtk was the one.10:59
Dr_Willis'locate transmission'  will also show some locations10:59
mikeubuntuhello, I installed windows after Ubuntu, now how to access Ubuntu again? how to get back GRUB11:00
gulag2013Yes that worked11:00
Dr_Willis'which transmission-gtk'  perhaps11:00
Dr_Willis!fixgrub | mikeubuntu11:00
ubottumikeubuntu: GRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub211:00
Dr_Willismikeubuntu:  live cd + that boot-repair tool is the easiest way to fix it11:00
gulag2013That is a new one /usr/local/bin Thank you11:00
Dr_Willisnormally not much in /usr/local/bin ;)11:01
munsterethok, yes, i have found the folder for transmission in 'my folder'/.config/transmission in the gui....now what is the executable?11:01
mikeubuntuDr_Willis, can I install Boot-repair via Live Cd ?11:01
Dr_Willismunstereth:  'which transmission-gtk' should shwo it11:01
Dr_Willismikeubuntu:  if you read that url/guide - it shows you exactly how to install it via live cd11:01
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Dr_Willismunstereth:  .config/XXXXXX is config files for your various tools.11:02
Dr_Willisnot the binaries11:02
mikeubuntuwell, If I add PPA via Live CD, will it be added in installed Ubuntu? (stupid question)11:04
Dr_Willisit will work untill you reboot.11:04
gulag2013munstereth, the executable was transmission-gtk in the /usr/bin folder. If you linked Firefox to a transmission ./config I'm not sure that would open it.11:04
Dr_Willisit installs to  RAM on the live cd11:04
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munsterethDr_Willis: yeah so the executable's not in there right...where would i find it? trying to point to it from the gui after clicking on a magnet link11:04
mikeubuntuDr_Willis, so will do nothing to installed Ubuntu?11:05
Dr_Willismunstereth: we have bee3n saying the command 'which transmission-gtk' should show EXACTLY where the binary is at11:05
mikeubuntuany way to repair this via windows?11:05
Dr_Willismikeubuntu:  it takes extra effort to install somtning on your installed system.11:05
Dr_Willismikeubuntu:   the boot-repair tool is the easiest way to fix it11:06
mikeubuntuDr_Willis, ok thanks11:06
Dr_Willistheres even a boot-repair live cd. and some ubuntu respins with it included11:06
Dr_Willisboth mentioned at the boot-repair ubuntu wiki page11:06
mikeubuntuDr_Willis, can i use any version of Ubuntu? /Old Live CD ?11:07
Dr_Willismikeubuntu:  no idea.11:07
Dr_Willisi imagine its best to use one that you have installed. or newer11:07
mikeubuntuDr_Willis, ok i am gonna try11:07
mikeubuntuDr_Willis, ok11:07
Dr_Willishmm. Nifty. 2 finger scrolling works on this logitech keyboard with touchpad built in. ;)11:08
TJ-Note-to-self: don't be surprised when the rootfs partition is missing when you install to a fakeRAID raw device (without dmraid) then expect it to boot reliably with dmraid installed - dmraid's initrd options cause it to remove all the raw device's partitions from the kernel... thus hiding the partition containing the volume group with the rootfs in!11:08
munsterethgulag2013:yeah so usr/bin /transmission-gtk but what's the path to that in the gui?11:09
Dr_Willismunstereth:  that is the path  /usr/bin/transmission-gtk11:10
tinylplol11:10
tinylpHELLO?11:10
BluesKaj'Morning all11:10
Dr_Willisnautilus has some way to enter a text path if its showing the silly button-thingsd..11:10
Dr_Willisctrl-l perhaps.11:10
tinylpAHA...11:10
cfhowletttinylp, greetings11:10
dam_Hi11:10
tinylpHi11:10
tinylpi have xubuntu11:11
dam_I search help about Ubuntu but i don't find a french chat :/11:11
TJ-Dr_Willis: I think with Nautilus if you just start typing it shows an address/path bar immediately11:11
discobiscuitDoes anyone run Xubuntu (or any version of Ubuntu/Debian/Linux in general) on a Macbook Pro with Retina display?11:11
TJ-!fr | dam_11:11
ubottudam_: Nous sommes desoles mais ce canal est en anglais uniquement. Si vous avez besoin d'aide ou voulez discuter en français, veuillez taper /join #ubuntu-fr ou /join #ubuntu-qc. Merci.11:11
discobiscuittinylp, hi!11:11
tinylpHi11:12
gulag2013munstereth, I'm not sure what it is that is challenging. When you open it up to look choose your "/" if that is the only selection or look for the word "File system"  then /usr then /bin11:12
dam_:join #ubuntu-fr11:12
dam_oups sorry :/11:12
discobiscuitI have Xubuntu as well, tinylp.11:12
discobiscuitI really like XFCE.11:12
tinylp:F11:12
cfhowlett!mac|discobiscuit,11:12
ubottudiscobiscuit,: For help on installing and using Ubuntu on a mac, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MactelSupportTeam/CommunityHelpPages11:12
discobiscuitI want to migrate to Debian (with XFCE), but I got settled in with Xubuntu already. I am too lazy to migrate over to Debian and have to install everything again.11:13
discobiscuit:p11:13
discobiscuitubottu, I am just wondering, how well Linux works with the Retina display.11:13
ubottudiscobiscuit: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)11:13
discobiscuitDamn.11:13
tinylpi going offline bye11:13
illusionneed gstreamer help11:14
munsterethDr_Willis: ok so just imagine, i click on a magnet link the choose app box comes up, i click choose and it takes me to the gui to browse my folders...i'm new to this..how does /usr and /bin translate in the gui while browsing folders as opposed to what it says in terminal?11:14
discobiscuitWell anyone here running Ubuntu (or any Linux) on a Macbook Pro with Retina Display?11:14
k1l_!anyone | discobiscuit11:15
ubottudiscobiscuit: A high percentage of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..." Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? See also !details, !gq, and !poll.11:15
gulag2013munstereth,  I really want to help you are you ready. I want you to visually understand this. It will hit you all at once. Can  you open your file manager?11:17
Dr_Willismunstereth:  / is the root of the filesystem. theres nothing  lower then /    I dont know what your file manager looks like. Im not on ubuntu11:17
gulag2013click the orange folder11:18
Dr_Willismunstereth:  hit the parent icon a few times till you get to / then look for  usr then bin11:18
Dr_Willisor if you can type in a path  type in /usr/bin/11:18
munsterethSo, the home folder?11:19
Dr_Willishome is NOT /11:19
gulag2013True enough, I should pull up that silly torrent prompt and see what he is looking at for options.11:19
Dr_Willis  the path to  the users home is /home/theusersname     so if you where in your users home.. hit the parent/up buttn twice. (heck hit it 5 times.. it will stop at / :)11:20
xanax`hello11:20
xanax`I use Windows 8 and Ubuntu (dual boot) and I have heard that windows 8.1 will be available via Windows Update in the end of the month. Will the Windows 8.1 update break my grub configuration (and dual boot) ?11:20
k1l_xanax`: maybe11:20
Dr_Willisxanax`:  it would be most annioying if MS decded to just mess with everyones bootloader..11:21
cfhowlettxanax`, shouldn't but with windows you never know.  be prepared to restore your grub11:21
xanax`-_-  alright11:21
k1l_xanax`: just keep a usb-stick with a live-ubuntu to reinstall the grub if needed11:21
Dr_Williswhy would a windows update break the bootloader.  unless they update their bootloader11:21
Dr_Willisfirefox  'another application..' dialog box here has 'File System' as being '/'11:22
Dr_WillisOr you can hit CTRL-L (like we mentioned eralier)  and type in  /usr/bin11:23
munsterethDr_Willis: ok, so that would appear to correspond with 'filesystem'11:23
Dr_Willisthey are calling / 'filesystem' since / is the ROOT of the whole filesystem11:23
Dr_Willisuse ctrl-l , or a pencil icon i see at the top left to enter 'text entry of path' mode.11:24
BluesKajmunstereth, look in the file manager 'places' , root11:24
Dr_Willisyou can even type in /usr/bin/trasmission-gtk (it auto completed the name for me)11:25
munsterethit displays but without the option to type that i can see11:26
Dr_Willisctrl-l or that Pencil Icon let me enter the full path11:26
Dr_Willisbut could be my FF version differs or somthing11:27
Dr_Willisim on 13.1011:27
munsterethDr_Willis: thankyou for your patience :)11:31
Dr_Willisand now its very obvious to you?11:31
cfhowlettso ... an unreleased version of ubuntu?  nah, it COULDN'T be ...11:31
Dr_Willis;)11:31
munsterethgulag2013:thankyou for your patience :)11:31
cfhowlett:)11:31
rygDis anyone knowledgeable on using pcmcia memory cards?11:31
Dr_WillisrygD:  you mean Ram cards? like a 4gb ram card?11:32
TJ-rygD: Do you mean memory devices plugged into a PCMCIA adapter?11:32
rygDthis is an sram, 2 mb11:32
Dr_WillisMy amiga could use those... like Decades ago. ;)11:32
rygDi should be more specific11:32
gulag2013munstereth, It will work out. I't can be confusing at first.11:32
Dr_Willisand even then - it was not a good idea. ;P11:32
rygDi have an adapter for cf also, but i need the sram to load a driver11:33
rygDpretty muck my only option for what i am trying to do is the pcmcia slot11:33
TJ-PCMCIA is managed by the pcmciautils package11:34
rygDmuch11:34
rygDi can see that the card is recognised11:34
rygDbut i don't know how to put anything on it11:34
Dr_Willisi cant recall ever seeing a pcmcia card you could access like a little hard drive.11:34
Dr_Willisonly one i had ages back was one that worked as actual ram11:34
[twisti]hello, i run ubuntu LTS 12 headless, on login, i get: *** /dev/md2 will be checked for errors at next reboot *** for a few different partitions. but reboots dont help, it just reboots normally and i keep getting those messages. ideas ?11:35
rygDthis was recently formatted11:35
Dr_WillisI thought ive seen CF to IDE adaptors that dident need any drivers.11:35
rygDit was running software for a tortilla company until about a decade or so ago11:35
gulag2013Crap they are real and can't remember what version of pcmcia they were mostly version 2 I think11:35
rygDwhat i am using this on is also about 20 years old11:36
Dr_Willis;)  back when pcmcia was  trying to become the standard way to expand desktop machines? ;) i rember that push ages back.11:36
rygDthe sram is a type 111:36
cfhowlettrygD, well, you'll just have to *puts on his cool shades* Let the chips fall where they may.  YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEAH!11:36
Dr_Willisnow even finding  laptop with pcmcia is hard.11:36
rygDi know11:36
rygDi just installed xubuntu yesterday to give it a shot11:37
rygDthe first laptop i tried had an issue11:37
rygDhalf the keys didn't work11:37
gulag2013How about Express cards. I had to learn all this junk for Comptia, I haven't encountered any of it.11:37
rygDtoo new11:38
zidohis there a way (outside of ccsm) to fix tabbing in ubuntu 13.04 ?11:38
Dr_Willisand whats wrong with tabbing? clarify what you mean byu tabbing also..11:38
zidohsorry.. i want alt+tab to tab between windows, not applications, and i don't want the "show desktop" there11:39
Dr_Willisthats handled specifically by somne of the compiz plugins. so  ive never seen a compiz config tool other then ccsm to alter the compiz settings11:40
Dr_Willistheres alternative alt-tab plugins in the ccsm toolk i even recall.11:40
munstereth1st torrent in ubuntu :)11:40
Dr_Willismunstereth:  and of course - you got it from 'legaltorrents.org'  ;)11:41
munsterethok, cool, cheers :-D11:41
gulag2013munstereth, learn the hierarchy this weekend.11:42
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BluesKajMonkeyDust, pm11:45
Mo0Obonjour11:46
Mo0Ovous connaissez un soft pour faire des grilles de jazz ?11:46
rygDis there somewhere or someone that might contain the info I am looking for with pcmcia cards?11:47
Mo0OrygD: lspci, non ?11:48
cfhowlett!fr|Mo0O,11:49
ubottuMo0O,: Nous sommes desoles mais ce canal est en anglais uniquement. Si vous avez besoin d'aide ou voulez discuter en français, veuillez taper /join #ubuntu-fr ou /join #ubuntu-qc. Merci.11:49
rygDhmmm...I can see the cards, Mo0O, but I don't know how to put stuff on them11:49
Mo0Ooh sorry, wrong chan11:49
rygDoh, english11:50
Mo0Ochadi: realy sorry11:50
buuCan anyone give me a hint why after I select 'Actions: when laptop lid is closed: nothing' it still suspends after a few minutes when I close the lid?11:50
rygDMo0O: do you know how to do that?11:51
rygDbuu, do you have any other power settings that would cause it to suspend in that timeframe?11:51
ender-adambuu: apply settings before trying to suspend11:51
Mo0OrygD: when you plug a pcmcia card, you should see the device on /dev/sd{xy}11:52
ender-adambuu: which ubuntu release?11:52
buurygD: I'm not sure, it's a fresh install..11:52
buuender-adam: Uh, xubuntu 13.1011:52
rygDMo0O: i didn't see it earlier11:52
Mo0Oand should mount it, on /mnt for example11:52
ender-adambuu: i use 12.04.211:52
ender-adambuu: i use 12.04.211:52
rygDlemme check again, but i have been fighting this for around 12 hours11:53
ender-adamsorry about the repeat11:53
ender-adamand i use the normal ubuntu with unity not xfce11:53
TJ-rygD: In a terminal do "tail -f /var/log/kern.log" before you plug the device in... that'll show you any messages from the kernel about the device11:53
ender-adamacces to the kernel?!?11:54
ender-adamaccess to the kernel?!?11:54
rygDTJ-: that is odd11:55
ender-adambuu so 13.10 isn't beta anymore11:57
rygDok, i guess i misread it the first time11:58
auronandaceender-adam: 13.10 isn't released as stable yet11:58
ender-adamwell then?11:58
ender-adamare there advantages of not-yet-stable releases?11:59
rygDit says the card was inserted and that it is registering11:59
cfhowlettender-adam, yep.  you get to play on the bleeding edge11:59
ender-adamand the newest stuff?12:00
cfhowlettender-adam, my system works. I've got Long Term Support.  I leave the bleeding edge to masochists and people smarter than I am12:01
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sarvsavhi everyone12:04
sarvsavi have a query12:04
sarvsavwhere does the passphrase get stored, that unlocks the private key?12:05
RoryThis is an odd question, but how can I specify the local port that's opened by the SSH client that the server sends traffic back to? It seems to use an arbitrary, random and high port12:06
ender-adamim on offtopic of you need me12:06
sarvsavso how to find out?12:07
[twisti]hello, i run ubuntu LTS 12 headless, on login, i get: *** /dev/md2 will be checked for errors at next reboot *** for a few different partitions. but reboots dont help, it just reboots normally and i keep getting those messages. ideas ?12:07
bwayneRory: in sshd_config you can specify a port on which sshd runs.12:07
auronandace!fsck | [twisti]12:08
ubottu[twisti]: fsck is the FileSystem ChecKer, which runs automatically when you boot if you didn't shutdown cleanly. Type "man fsck" for information on running it manually. The command "sudo touch /forcefsck && sudo shutdown -r now" will force a reboot and a filesystem check; "sudo touch /fastboot" will skip a filesystem check at next reboot12:08
[twisti]auronandace: will that work unattended ? its a remote server, i dont want it to get stuck sitting there going 'do you want me to fix this error Y/N'12:10
bwayneRory: from the box you're ssh'ing from, simply 'ssh -p <port> <usr>@<host>'12:11
ubuntu-addictHello. I want to buy a ROG G750 but I want to be sure that it will work with ubuntu. Does someone manage to use it with Ubuntu?12:12
auronandace[twisti]: i'm sorry, i don't know12:13
netai have a problem- how do i remove mlterm? (multilingual erminal)12:13
Rorybwayne: Thanks but that's not what I meant12:15
ubuntu-addictnobody?12:15
cfhowlett!hardware|ubuntu-addict,12:16
ubottuubuntu-addict,: For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport - To help debugging and improving hardware detection, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingHardwareDetection12:16
Guest72716@neta does sudo apt-get autoremove mlterm not work12:16
BluesKajGuest72716, sudo apt-get remove mlterm12:17
Rorybwayne: For example "lsof -i | grep ssh" shows TCP port sambac.local:51120 - I want to know how to make 51120 into something of my choosing12:17
aandersegiven ubuntu 13.10 is going to be using xmir and lightdm will ubuntu 13.10 support multiseat configurations?12:17
Guest72716@blueskaj: that is what i wrote12:18
cfhowlett!saucy|aanderse,12:18
ubottuaanderse,: Ubuntu 13.10 (Saucy Salamander) will be the 19th release of Ubuntu. Announcement: http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/1252 - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1. Release date will be 17th October 2013.12:18
ubuntu-addictthanks ubottu but there is no info about g75012:18
cfhowlettubuntu-addict, so there's no information available - roll the dice.12:18
bwayneRory: so you're wanting to change which port your ssh server listens on?  I'm sorry I misunderstood.12:18
Rorybwayne: No, I know how to do that, this is entirely on the client what I am asking12:19
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Rorybwayne: I'm connected to my server right now (on port 22 not that that is relevat)12:19
BluesKajRory, ssh12:20
wyldeRory: http://explainshell.com/explain/1/ssh ----perhaps -L ? Not certain, skimming through quickly12:20
bwayneRory: sorry. haven't had my coffee yet. i don't think i understand. :)12:21
wyldebwayne: I believe Rory is wanting to control the local port used by the client12:21
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netai have a problem- how do i remove mlterm? (multilingual erminal)12:21
BluesKajRory, an alternate port is 22012:22
Lunar_LampRory: why do you want to specify the outbound port? It's very standard that client ports are ephemeral.12:23
bwayneah. Rory I think wylde is correct. from 'man ssh' -->   -L [bind_address:]port:host:hostport12:24
wyldeneta: you were given an answer earlier. 'sudo apt-get remove mlterm'12:24
wyldeneta: if that isn't working please pastebin any error output.12:25
buuOk seriously how hard is it to turn off 'suspend when lid closes' ?12:27
buuAnyone have a console hack handy?12:28
wyldebuu: you have any other suspend options off as well? Thise will still have an effect even if you turn off the lid close option.12:28
me-1hi...how do I update grub12:28
wyldeThose*12:28
buuwylde: Where would I find those?12:29
wyldebuu: I imagine the same place you found the lid close option. I'm not using Unity or gnome.12:30
buuwylde: I'm using xfce4 apparently12:30
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cfhowlettme-1, sudo update grub12:30
buuIt just says: When laptop lid is closed: nothing12:31
me-1cfhowlett,  I used to have win7 but removed it still have menu in grub I wanted to reomove that entry12:32
cfhowlettme-1, and?  did you run update grub?12:32
me-1cfhowlett, not yet12:32
wyldebuu: I'm having a look on http://askubuntu.com/12:33
bwaynebuu: see if any of these answers helps you --->  http://askubuntu.com/questions/15520/how-can-i-tell-ubuntu-to-do-nothing-when-i-close-my-laptop-lid12:33
wizard_Awhat should be the command to create a link to public_html from lamp/htdocs and necessary perms12:34
wyldebuu: also perhaps http://askubuntu.com/questions/300718/xubuntu-power-settings-file/301044#30104412:35
bwaynewizard_A: are you wanting 'public_html' to essentially point to lamp/htdocs ?12:36
wizard_Ayes but i guess the other way around?12:36
bwaynewizard_A: a symbolic link will do what you're looking for. 'ln -s <source_dir> <new_linked_dir>'12:37
wizard_Alet me try that.12:38
krambiorixhi, i want to buy a new tv and will later on install ubuntu tv... Can i install ubuntu tv on all tv's?12:38
cfhowlettkrambiorix, nope12:38
cfhowlett!xmbc12:39
cfhowlett!touch|krambiorix,12:39
ubottukrambiorix,: Information about the Ubuntu Touch platform for Phone and Tablet is available here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch support and discussion in #ubuntu-touch12:39
ubuntu-addictHello. Has someone ever managed to use ubuntu on a ROG G75 or G750?12:39
krambiorixcfhowlett, is that the same as tv?12:39
cfhowlettkrambiorix, so far as I know, no one has installed ubuntu on a television.12:39
cfhowlettkrambiorix, perhaps you're thinking of a home media server?12:40
krambiorixcfhowlett, it's intended to install it on a box?12:40
krambiorixaah yes12:40
krambiorixok12:40
krambiorixor on a raspberry pie thingy12:40
krambiorixcfhowlett, ok thanks!12:40
cfhowlettkrambiorix, got it.  there's a full fledged media server set up12:41
camel__Good evening12:41
cfhowlettcamel__, greetings12:41
krambiorixyes thanks again12:41
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camel__who has resources about programing12:42
cfhowlett!details|camel__,12:43
ubottucamel__,: Please give us full details. For example: "I have a problem with ..., I'm running Ubuntu version .... When I try to do ..., I get the following output: ..., but I expected it to do ..."12:43
buuwylde: Thanks, trying those options12:44
bwaynecamel__: this page has excellent resources. i apologize for zed's child-unfriendly site, but it is the best. http://goo.gl/1UWCy12:46
wylde!alis | camel__: what language, or perhaps ask alis12:46
ubottucamel__: what language, or perhaps ask alis: alis is a services bot that can help you find channels. Read "/msg alis help list" for help and ask any questions about it in #freenode. Example usage: /msg alis list #ubuntu* or /msg alis list *http*12:46
wizard_Awhat i want to achieve is localhost/MyPages/WebS1 to display whats in /home/public_html/WebS1/home.html.12:47
bwaynewizard_A: did12:48
wizard_A?12:48
cfhowlett!xbmc12:48
wyldewizard_A: you can configure apache to use the /public_html/ directory directly in /etc/apache/sites-available/<filename>12:49
wylde!apache | wizard_A12:49
ubottuwizard_A: LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process.12:49
wizard_Ayes12:49
bwaynewizard_A: sorry. i was answering and accidentally hit <enter> on this tiny keyboard. :) but i'm glab. wylde's approach appears to be *the* way it's done.12:51
wizard_Acan i add another entry in httpd.conf file12:52
saulisosisWhatup, just updated jockey-gtk and I'd like to know if it's safe to move to nvidia 319 yet?12:52
wizard_Aactually i've lamp installed in /opt/lamp/12:52
wyldewizard_A: is this the only "website" you're going to host? I assume you want this as a local development server?12:52
BluesKajcfhowlett, XBMC is ok if youdon't mind having your media organized for you by an app that takes over your pc :)12:52
wizard_Ano i'm using it for testing other sites as well12:53
wizard_Ayes12:53
xQuasarhi guys, i'm having trouble with ubuntu 12.04 64bit on my desktop. it's dual booted with windows 8. when i use ubuntu, everything is fine for anywhere from 1 minute to 1 hour, but at some point it always starts lagging insanely for a few seconds (cursor moves once every 3 seconds or so) and then immediately followed by a complete freeze of the entire computer12:53
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wyldewizard_A: ok, not sure why you didn't just use ubuntu's lamp stack but you can still configure pache to use that directiry12:53
wyldeblah typos12:53
xQuasara google search hasn't given me any real answers, does anyone here have any ideas>12:53
xQuasari don't think it's a hardware issue because i never encounter any issues whatsoever when on windows12:54
bwaynexQuasar: that's kind of a vaque description of the problem. are there any more details you could give us? or is that the extent of it?12:54
AllanDxQuasar: I had issues very similar to that with the -053 kernel - just went back to 052 and all is fine12:54
shahinhi every one12:54
shahinI HAVE A PROBLEM WITH WIFI CONNECTION12:55
AllanDxQ12:55
bwayneshahin: no caps please12:55
AllanDxQuasar: I should add I did not have WINDOZE anywhere near12:55
saulisosisxQuasar: bwayne's right. Is there something repeatable you have tried to induce the problem?12:55
shahinmy connection ' s been continusly  disconected12:56
xQuasarbwayne: that's all that happens. i boot it up, spend a few minutes with only firefox / gedit open, and then it always happens.12:56
shahinwhat's the problem?12:56
bwaynexQuasar: when was the last time it happened? are you in Ubuntu now?12:56
xQuasarintense lag for a few seconds followed by a complete freeze. the only thing i could do is force shutdown by holding the power button. are there log files that could help with identifying the problem anywhere and how would i access them?12:57
saulisosisshahin: You really need to be more specific12:57
xQuasarbwayne: it happened like 3 times just now. i'm on windows now and trying to find a fix12:57
Guest79388please, how can i do private messages with one click in xchat?? with xchat-gnome it works by default!12:57
BluesKajxQuasar, check /var/log/syslog12:58
bwaynexQuasar: i'd be interested in seeing the kernel log. can you get to /var/log/kern.log on Ubuntu and pastebin it?12:58
saulisosisPeace out ! /disconnect12:58
saulisosis /disconnect12:58
shahini mean every 1 minute my network connection is been disconnecting12:58
xQuasarbwayne: alright, i'll do that now, will be back on this channel soon12:59
bwaynexQuasar: there many be a few of them, appended with digits. if you can find them, pastebin them. BluesKaj's advice is good too. You'll want to look through the logs in /var/log to see anything suspicious.12:59
bwaynexQuasar: at least, as many as you can get to before liftoff. :)13:00
zzZhou XFCE Edge of the window moves only covers half of the screen, how completely covered13:01
wyldezzZhou: move to the top of the screen ;)13:01
kostkonGuest79388, pref -> user list -> action upon double click and put:  query %s13:01
wyldezzZhou: left/right edge tiles to left and right sides13:02
zzZhouI want full screen, just like windows713:03
zzZhouHow to do it13:03
dreamonBluesKaj, Hey. Found the reason why flash wasnt playing at all. ;)13:04
wyldezzZhou: not sure what you mean. I haven't used Windows in 7 years ;) Maybe someone else will have an idea13:04
BluesKajdreamon, good , what was causing your flash problem13:04
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buuwylde: awesome, that bug report solved it13:05
wyldebuu: good stuff :(13:05
wylde:) oops13:06
dreamonBluesKaj, My CPU (Amd sempron) there is no sse2 flag in it, with flash it is a must have in linux. In Windows it isnt.13:06
wylderotten fingers13:06
buuwylde: Now if only I could fix this damn trackpad =]13:06
wyldebuu: what's the trackpad issue?13:06
buuwylde: It's way too sensitive/wide/something, I keep bumping the edge of it and it triggers a mouseclick when I'm typing13:07
zzZhouwylde: MATA window to the screen using the mouse to drag the edge up automatically maximize, and now I can cover the screen of the general13:07
dreamonBluesKaj, I build the same system in a different hardware it worked perfect.13:07
xQuasar_bwayne: the entire file was too large for pastebin so i only pasted today's logs13:07
xQuasar_bwayne: http://pastebin.com/5QFqUCxn13:07
buuwylde: Also since I'm asking random questions, do you have any idea why selecting stuff isn't automatically copying it in xfce4-terminal?13:08
wyldebuu: ohhhhh, I alwasy disable my trackpads and use a mouse. I hate them. lol13:08
BluesKajdreamon, your pc is quite old ?13:08
bwaynexQuasar_: hmmm ... we'll have to see a log from around the time the incident happened. i'll look at it though.13:08
buuwylde: Well I can't drag a mouse around with my laptop, heh13:08
xQuasar_BluesKaj: sorry what was the file that you said to check?13:08
dreamonBluesKaj, Yes. I want to build this PC only for using flash.13:09
xQuasar_bwayne: the bits i pasted are from under an hour ago when it happened 2 times13:09
buuOhh13:09
wyldebuu: I do ;) lol. No ideas on the track pad issue besides having a look on askubuntu13:09
buuGoddamn it xwindows and your pastebuffers13:09
BluesKajxQuasar_, /var/log/syslog13:10
kostkonxQuasar_, you got some fs probs, the fs repaired itself though. you need to learn about REISUB instead of holding the power button when your sustem is frozen13:10
buuwylde: Whoever thought multiple copybuffers was a great design feature should be shot =[13:10
zzZhouwylde :MATA desktop windows using the mouse upwards marginalization can achieve full-screen maximized, and now I can not.13:11
xQuasar_kostkon: sorry i'm a complete dud when it comes to ubuntu, i'm a first year compsci student and only started using ubuntu a few months ago.. i don't know what fs or REISUB are13:11
wyldebuu: as for the auto-copying I really don't know. Search settings or look for a settings file. May be an option that can be toggled on/off13:11
kostkonxQuasar_, sorry for being unclear, fs -> filesystem ;)13:11
xQuasar_bwayne: oh also, forgot to mention: when i opened kern.log in gedit it gave me a warning "there was a problem opening the file, it has some invalid characters etc etc"13:12
Guest79388what is the difference between xchat and xchat-gnome???13:12
xQuasar_kostkon: it keeps happening though, it happened a few times last week, i didn't think much of it, then didn't touch ubuntu again until today and it happens every time a short while after i boot into ubuntu13:13
zzZhouMATA desktop windows using the mouse upwards marginalization can achieve full-screen maximized, and now I can not. help me please !~13:13
buuwylde: Yeah.. checking around. It turns out selecting *does* copy it but only inbetween terminal windows, e.g. I can't paste into chrome13:13
kostkonxQuasar_, if your system is frozen, hold down alt-gr+prt scr and then press R+E+I+S+U+B waiting a couple of seconds after each press13:13
buuBut if I right-click -> copy then I can13:13
buuBecause something is being stupid13:13
xQuasar_kostkon: what does that do?13:14
dixoncx_Hi all.. I was using ubuntu 12.04 + win 7 till date. Now i wants to re-install both os. Which Ubuntu version to select ? Should i install 13.04 or 13.10 ?13:14
kostkonxQuasar_, shuts down the system, umounts your filesystems to avoid damage and then reboots13:15
wyldebuu: hmmm there maybe a clipboard utility to address that. I don't know off the top of my head.13:15
xQuasar_kostkon: ok, will do, but that won't really help me find the problem right?13:16
wyldexQuasar_: not find the problem but hel pprevent new ones. Like a damaged disk.13:16
kostkonxQuasar_, no, but it will lessen the chances of completely borking your system with all those forced shutdowns :P13:16
xQuasar_BluesKaj: this is my syslog - it was also too large so i just pasted the lines dated to today http://pastebin.com/bBxPK8Sf13:17
xQuasar_it also gave the "contains invalid characters" warning when opened in gedit13:17
bwaynexQuasar_: i looked through those logs. couldn't spot anything. but, then again, i doubt those logs are from around a time the incident occurred. try using Ubuntu for a while, with a USB plugged in. when it begins happening, copy over kern.log, sys.log, and the xorg.log over to the USB stick before the system locks up. I'm not sure what further advise I can give.13:22
buuwylde: Well, there's at least one utility that does it13:22
buuKinda awkward13:22
paulus68_1what is a good tool to run disk diagnostics13:23
kostkonxQuasar_, nothing out of the ordinary. has ubuntu offered you the option to install the nvidia driver, i couldn't help but notice you are using the open source nouvaeu driver13:23
xQuasar_bwayne: ok, thanks a lot for helping me!13:24
xQuasar_kostkon: no it hasn't, dyou think it might possibly be related to my problem? how do i install the nvidia driver? just google "nvidia driver ubuntu"?13:25
bwaynepaulus68_1: gsmartcontrol will allow you to view your disks SMART info.13:26
kostkonxQuasar_, it could be, next time, try going into tty, if that is successful then it could mean that your system is not frozen but youve got some kind of graphics problem and13:26
xQuasar_kostkon: latter half of my question was dumb, ofcourse google. but do you think it might be related to my problem?13:26
paulus68_1bwayne: well the smart info gives me that status bad don't know if I can solve this somehow13:27
wyldexQuasar_: the recommended way is to use the "Additional Drivers" tool aka jockey-gtk if on Unity/gnome13:27
xQuasar_kostkon: sorry for not understanding so much but what is tty and how do i go into it?13:27
kostkonxQuasar_, to change to tty, press ctrl+alt+f413:27
wyldepaulus68_1: time to make backups and look into  new disk then ;)13:28
kostkonxQuasar_, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Computer_terminal#Types_of_text_terminals13:28
paulus68_1wylde: nothing fancy on this drive at the moment however would like to give it a try to solve this :)13:28
xQuasar_kostkon and wylde: ok thanks for the advice, i'll install the nvidia drivers now and see what happens13:29
kostkonxQuasar_, yeah go for it13:30
bwaynepaulus68_1: you'll want to backup up soon and get a new disk, probably. there's a handy cloning too which will give diagnostics as it clones the disk. http://www.forensicswiki.org/wiki/Dc3dd13:30
Caelummy /etc/cron.daily/apt seems to not be running, I set APT::Periodic::Verbose "3"; but got no email for root13:31
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Caelumcron says it's running cron.daily13:31
wyldepaulus68_1: not sure what tools are available. A low level format MAY refresh a few sectors that aren't completely borked but beyond that I don't know.13:32
bwaynewylde: paulus68_1 : i would suggest spinrite, though it isn't free, and has no open alternative.13:32
Caelumthere's a free version of spinrite on some rescue cd13:33
CaelumI think13:33
wyldebwayne: I was just about to suggest it. http://grc.com13:33
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buuUsing xfce/xubuntu is there any clever way to 'browse' to a samba share without cli mount/fstab stuff?13:33
paulus68_1ok thanks13:34
dixoncxHi all.. I was using ubuntu 12.04 + win 7 till date. Now i wants to re-install both os. Which Ubuntu version to select ? Should i install 13.04 or 13.10 ? How much stable is 13,10 beta ?13:34
wyldebuu: you can try (in the filemanager address bar) smb://ipaddress/sharename13:34
bwayneCaelum: really? i'd be interested in seeing that. any chance of recalling the name of the rescue cd?13:34
mrrcpinstall 12.0413:34
lino-pc!list13:34
ubottulino-pc: No warez here! This is not a file sharing channel (or network); read the channel topic. If you're looking for information about me, type « /msg ubottu !bot ». If you're looking for a channel, see « /msg ubottu !alis ».13:34
xQuasar_kostkon: do i need to reboot after installing for the driver changes to take effect? sorry if this is a naive question, i'm just too used to window's prompts that tell me everything13:34
kostkonxQuasar_, yes. good luck13:35
wyldebuu: you have to have samba-client installed13:35
lino-pcsalve13:35
maskedcodyhi13:35
wylde!13.10 | dixoncx: 13.10 is due to be released this month. The 17th I believe.13:38
ubottudixoncx: 13.10 is due to be released this month. The 17th I believe.: Ubuntu 13.10 (Saucy Salamander) will be the 19th release of Ubuntu. Announcement: http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/1252 - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1. Release date will be 17th October 2013.13:38
buuwylde: Ohhh13:39
buuwylde: Nifty13:39
wylde:)13:39
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dixoncxwylde: i know.. thats why i wants to skip 13.04. therefore can i use 13.10 beta on my development mechine ? R u using ?13:41
wyldedixoncx: nope, I typically stick with LTS. Although I've heard 13.10 has been pretty stable. Heresay though ;)13:43
bwaynei usually wait until LTS Service Pack 1. ;)13:43
mrrcpanyone know of a twostep app for ubuntu13:46
mrrcpwhere i can keep my keys etc13:46
dixoncxwylde: am in ubuntu 12.04 now. i heard unity improved much in newer versions. thats why i want to update (fresh install latest). Between 13.04 and 13.10 which one will be best choice ?13:46
bwaynemrrcp: what is a "twostep" app? are you referring to gpg and ssh keys?13:47
wyldedixoncx: well if you want the latest improvements 13.10 will be where you'll find them. I don't use Unity so really it's up to you. I can't speak to how stab;e it is though.13:47
mrrcpno13:48
mrrcpim talking to 2 step authentication13:48
dixoncxokey, i try my luck in 13.10..13:48
mrrcpsuch as google authenticator13:48
dixoncxWhich Ubuntu favour will do best in virtualbox? unity is too laggy.. xubuntu ? anything else with decent window manager ?13:49
Ari-Yang!lubuntu13:50
Ari-Yang!lxde13:50
wyldedixoncx: lubuntu will likely be the "lightest"13:51
bwaynemrrcp: i'm not aware of such a desktop application. i don't think i've ever heard of a two-factor app on a desktop, and i'm skeptical of it's usefulness anyway. are there examples of these sorts of applications for other OS's?13:52
wyldedoes unity still have a 2d option? That alone may help.13:52
dangerousdave"There for you want to provide ruby with a certificate in the default location(and assume your dev ops guys know what they are doing). You can use dtruss to work out where the system is looking for the certificate file." how do i use dtruss to do that?13:53
mrrcpor facebook code generator13:53
mrrcpnoone?13:53
ubottulubuntu is Ubuntu with LXDE instead of !GNOME as desktop environment, which makes it extremely lightweight. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu - /join #lubuntu for lubuntu support.13:53
ubottuLXDE ( http://lxde.org/ ) is the Lightweight X11 Desktop Environment used by !Lubuntu. To install from Ubuntu: « sudo apt-get install lubuntu-desktop ». See http://lubuntu.net/ for more information, and join #lubuntu for support.13:53
bwaynemrrcp: those are smart-phone apps. do you have an example of a desktop application?13:54
dixoncxwill try lubuntu .. thanks13:54
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floogyHi, I got an issue with rythmbox. Is that the default behaviour to scan the whole disk and network shares for useable streams and produce thousands of import errors due to scanning unknown formats?13:56
lino-pcsalve13:57
lino-pchi13:57
floogyIt lists >11000 errors and produced an error in libgstcoreindexers.so13:57
floogysig segfault (11)13:58
AllanDis there an EASY way to change the screen that shows as ubuntu comes up and goes down?14:00
kruxswitch your cables around ?..14:03
faugusztinAllanD: it is a BIOS thing, it is up to the BIOS which card it selects as primary according to their internal logic, then again it is up to the card which output it selects as primary14:05
wylde!plymouth | AllanD14:05
ubottuAllanD: Plymouth is an application that runs very early in the boot process (even before the root filesystem is mounted!) that provides a graphical boot animation while the boot process happens in the background. To change your Plymouth theme use « sudo update-alternatives --config default.plymouth && sudo update-initramfs -u »14:05
AllanDfaugusztin: I do not mean the bios screen - I mean the one from ubuntu - the one that is DIFFERENT if I run xubuntu, kubuntu, etc.  So, clearly it is changeable14:06
bwayneAllanD: see wylde's answer14:06
AllanDwylde: ty for the ubottu advice that is what I wanted - haven't tried it yet - but looks good14:07
wyldeAllanD: also https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Plymouth :)14:07
bwaynei wonder if I could make mine a cat gif14:08
wyldebwayne: you could :) With a little work.14:08
floogyWhy in the world is rhyshmbox scanning *.log and *.iso files to stream them?14:09
wyldefloogy: check your settings? Is there an option to ignore file extensions?14:09
floogywylde, didn't find one...14:09
bwayneooooh .... ubuntu-logo.script ... thx wylde. i must have kitteh gif14:11
wyldebwayne: lol. Do some reading first. It may have to be particular dimensions and file type.14:12
bwaynewylde: oh.     it'll happen.14:12
wyldebwayne: it's been a long time since I played with plymouth14:12
floogymaybe splashy can handle that too?14:13
bwaynei don't care what it takes. i will have disco cat when I boot ubuntu.14:13
wyldefloogy: not having much luck on rythmbox on askubuntu :(14:14
wotan147anyone experienced with canon printer on ubuntu ?14:16
wyldefloogy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Rhythmbox may have some info?14:16
h1n1Sup14:17
ZIPY_hi, how can i refer a sopcast url open with sopcast player?14:19
ZIPY_when i click the link i can choose an aplication, but what application file should i select?14:20
wyldeZIPY_: in terminal 'which sopcast-player' will give you the path to the binary14:22
jacki wish i knew why ubuntu stopped using "adept"14:23
ZIPY_wow that worked, thx14:23
jacksynaptic is good too, no doubt14:23
wyldeZIPY_: np :)14:23
jackbut adept was so cool14:23
gulag2013"Which" very useful thank you.14:24
camel__who can use python program14:24
camel__give me some advice14:24
wyldecamel__: anyone? Give some more detail about your question please14:25
wylde!python | camel__14:26
ubottucamel__: python is a popular Object Oriented scripting language included in Ubuntu. For more on Python please see http://www.python.org/ or #python14:26
jackpy3 is scary though14:27
jackuse 2.7 if you don't want confusion14:27
bwayneconfusion ...14:28
camel__why14:28
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camel__py3 is very different from py2.7 ,is it?14:29
snake_I have a question about my network and internet connection, is that valid and ontopic here?14:29
bwaynesnake_: so long as you're using ubuntu or a supported derivative.14:29
snake_bwayne, I am using ubuntu :) here is my question: I have ssh server running but I turned off port forwarding until I have time to make a key pair login. However I still have one port that is not the ssh-servers port open. Could someone use a socket or w/e to connect to port 22 through this open port? say port 300014:31
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bwaynesnake_: i'm not savvy enough to give you a definitive answer to that exact question. but my suggestion would be to stop sshd until you've created the key pair.14:33
wyldesnake_: only if whatever application listening on that open port can be compromised to provide access to your system ;)14:34
snake_bwayne, that is a good suggestion, I did that real quick14:34
snake_wylde, I'm uncertain if the application using it is secure :c14:34
wyldesnake_: then I assume you don't have that port opened to the world through your router?14:35
bwaynesnake_: i have open ports for other servies, e.g. bittorent, and I see nothing on my auth.log that makes me suspicious. i use key authentication only, and i'm the only user that is able to log in. i also use fail2ban to ban any ip that tries to connect 6 times in 3 day and bans them for a year.14:35
wyldesnake_: if it's not forwarded out to the internet then no, unless you have security concerns on your internal network.14:36
h1n1It depend on you paranoid level too ha ツ14:37
snake_wylde, It is a p2p connection.14:37
snake_is forwarded14:37
snake_bwayne, ok so I'll just keep ssh off until I get the key login set up and then it should be ok.14:38
snake_h1n1, haha14:38
h1n1Lol14:38
bwayneit's my understanding that port scanning is typically limited in range by crackers since scanning all 50,000 some-odd ports on all computers isn't feasible. but i'm not sure of that. most bots looking for ssh, i've found are trying to log in as root. disabling root login, and allowing only users that log in, using key auth, will pretty much remove the knob on your ssh door. but i'm no wizard.14:40
wyldesnake_: then IF that application has vulnerabilties it could be compromised as is with any open ports. If you're unsure of the application being secure it shouldn't be used :P. Do some research to determine how safe that application is. Also if in doubt look into fail2ban, I use it on my VPS and it works quite well, on top of using a non-standard port :)14:41
snake_bwayne, yeah. key pairs are good. :)14:42
bwaynesnake_: the only way to go, imo.14:42
snake_wylde, what I've gathered so far is that it is indeed secure.14:42
bwaynesnake_: it all boils down to trust. using an open-source client goes a long way. but still ... there's a great article, i forget the author, called "trusting trust", which is good reading.14:43
Caelumhow long are backports and security updates for a release maintained?14:43
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wyldesnake_: just moving sshd off of port 22 exponentially reduces the number of port scans that will even see your server.14:44
snake_Caelum, it updates through git quite often I think. just a few days after I downloaded it there was an update.14:45
bwayneCaelum: ubuntu has your definitive answer. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LTS14:45
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Caelumwhat if you're not using lts14:45
snake_oh. nvm my response xD I thought it was about the app i was using14:45
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bwayneCaelum: from the page: "You get free security updates for at least 9 months on the desktop and server. "14:46
Caelumlol14:46
Marleneewhy apt-get keep show me all this error http://paste.ubuntu.com/6196783/14:46
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bwayneCaelum: you find that unreasonable for non-LTS?14:47
Caelumthat page makes no sense whatsoever14:48
bwayneCaelum: file a bug report.14:48
Caelum"The LTS designation applies only to specific subsets of the Ubuntu archive."14:49
Caelumso how do I know what is LTS and what is not LTS14:49
bwayne!LTS14:49
ubottuLTS means Long Term Support. LTS versions of Ubuntu will be supported for 3 years on the desktop, and 5 years on the server; with the exception of 12.04 (Precise Pangolin), which will be supported for 5 years on the desktop. The current LTS version of Ubuntu is !Precise (Precise Pangolin 12.04)14:49
bwaynethe next will be 14.04.14:50
Marleneemy problem ^^14:50
Caelumok, so there are about two releases a year and 9 months of security/backports per release?14:50
RoryMarlenee: What Ubuntu version are you using?14:51
MarleneeRory : VERSION="12.04.3 LTS, Precise Pangolin"14:52
RoryMarlenee: Please run the following in the terminal to download a run a script which fixes errors in the package manager: "wget rory.sh/fixpackages; sh fixpackages"14:52
SuperEngineerAm I the only one who's Gwibber has stopped updating from Facebook as of 3 days ago?14:52
SuperEngineer[in fact it doesn't even show "Refreshing" anymore]14:52
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wyldeMarlenee: also...you really shouldn't be running as root.... just sayin'14:53
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MarleneeRory : http://paste.ubuntu.com/6196815/14:54
hellohhhhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zKom9uIUT3o14:54
RoryMarlenee: Please run the following in the terminal to download a run a script which fixes errors in the package manager: "wget rory.sh/fixpackages; sh fixpackages"14:54
bwaynewow. "  Package passwd is not configured yet."14:55
MarleneeRory : ok iam doing this now14:55
wylde...even a segfault o_O14:56
RoryMarlenee: Be honest: Why is your package manager giving you so many errors? When did it start happening?14:57
french_baguettehello all14:58
MarleneeRory : its start happen now14:59
linuxearthhow do i install ubuntu lts to pendrive? i tried but i was not able to do what to do in the partitioning setup and how to create the partitions in pen drive of size 64 gb15:00
RoryMarlenee: OK it can take a few minutes15:00
MarleneeRory : http://paste.ubuntu.com/6196838/15:00
wyldeMarlenee: did you add a PPA(s)?15:00
Marleneesee this log ^^15:00
Marleneewylde : yes15:01
ivaldihi - where is the best place to put "iw" commands? (creating interfaces with "iw" and stuff like this - should i write a new init script?)15:01
Marleneewylde : add-apt-repository ppa:antono/shelr15:01
MarleneeRory : nothing change Segmentation fault (core dumped)15:03
wyldeMarlenee: you have to be careful using 3rd party ppa's. They can wreak havoc on  your system. They are also unsupported by ubuntu.15:04
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RoryMarlenee: I believe actually it should now be fixed - try doing whatever you were doing before to produce the error15:04
RoryMarlenee: Oh sorry one second15:04
RoryThat shelr repo should be fine it shouldn't cause these problems.15:05
Marleneeiam trying to install -  sudo apt-get install extplorer15:05
RoryMarlenee: Can you please run "sudo apt-get -f install"15:05
bwaynethat ppa has a 30% build failure rate. not sure how much i'd trust it.15:06
MarleneeRory : check this http://paste.ubuntu.com/6196875/15:07
RoryMarlenee: Err... for some reason it thought you said no. Do it again and there should be some output after you say Y15:09
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Marleneeno there's no output after pressing Y it stopped15:10
czokenHello15:12
MarleneeRory : can i remove all pkg and install it again to evade this erroes15:12
czokenI'm pretty new in ubuntu, and i have problem with sound. On headphones it plays normal, but when i want to use speakers it does not. On windows all was all right15:12
Marlenee*errors15:12
Star-Flowerczoken, are you using the same port?15:13
czokenThose are notebook integrated speakers15:13
Star-Flowerwhat brand and model laptop?15:13
czokenHp 62015:13
zykotick9czoken: open "alsamixer" from terminal, is anything turned down or muted MM at bottom?15:14
czokenI did it already zykotick9 all was all right15:14
RoryMarlenee: Can you please run "sudo apt-get -fy install" that will not ask you, it will just assume Yes15:15
cgtdkDo I really need to install "account-plugin-facebook" (and a bunch of other junk) to install lightdm?15:16
czokenNo ideas about that sound? :/15:17
Star-Flowerczoken, I found a link to a bug report where someone had posted they fixed the problem.15:17
Star-Flowerhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/26902715:17
ubottuUbuntu bug 269027 in Baltix "No sound from Laptop speakers, but headphones. my solution" [Undecided,New]15:17
otakyou can use the option --no-install-recommends with apt-get15:17
Star-Flowerpost #515:17
czokenThanks, ill check that15:17
cgtdkotak: thanks, that cut the junk by 700 MB :)15:18
MarleneeRory : nothing change see this http://paste.ubuntu.com/6196910/15:18
zykotick9cgtdk: careful using --no-install-recommends.  you might end up missing some important stuff...15:18
cgtdkzykotick9: I am. Installing lightdm with that flag doesn't even give me video drivers. :)15:19
czokenStar-Flower: I can't install this package15:20
zykotick9cgtdk: do you not currently have Xorg installed?  if so, DON'T install xorg with that!15:20
Star-Flowerczoken, does it give you errors?15:20
cgtdkzykotick9: No, I did a minimal install.15:20
zykotick9cgtdk: take smaller steps, install Xorg, install your DE/WM, then install lightdm.15:21
cgtdkjust installed xorg15:21
jackGriswoldz, diablo player?15:21
cgtdksure15:21
czoken(Reading database ... 196239 files and directories currently installed.) Unpacking alsa-driver-linuxant (from .../alsa-driver-linuxant_1.0.18.0_all.deb) ... Setting up alsa-driver-linuxant (1.0.18.0) ... Building modules for the 3.2.0-54-generic-pae kernel, please wait... done. ERROR: Build failed. Please review the build log at /tmp/alsa-driver-linuxant.4654.log dpkg: error processing alsa-driver-linuxant (--install):  subprocess insta15:21
centaurusHi  i  want to buy some ubuntu products  such as caps , T-sirt , pens    whould you ship/deliver them to me to my country ????15:21
zykotick9centaurus: that's not a tech-support style question.  email canonical's store about questions like that.15:22
wyldecentaurus: check at http://www.ubuntu.com ?15:22
czokenreturned error exit status 1 Processing triggers for ureadahead ... ureadahead will be reprofiled on next reboot Errors were encountered while processing:  alsa-driver-linuxant15:22
Star-Flowerczoken, can you use pastebin.ubuntu.com and post the log at /tmp/alsa-driver-linuxant.4654.log15:23
cgtdkAny good alternatives to lightdm (not gdm)? Something lightweight15:23
zykotick9!info slim | cgtdk i'm not sure you'd call it "good" but it's about as light as a DM is gonna get15:24
ubottucgtdk i'm not sure you'd call it "good" but it's about as light as a DM is gonna get: slim (source: slim): desktop-independent graphical login manager for X11. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.3.4-2ubuntu1 (raring), package size 877 kB, installed size 1486 kB15:24
czokenStar-Flower: terminal says that acces denied15:25
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centaurus<zykotick9> i already sent a message to the store  but i need an instant answer , is there any chat room where i can get answers ??15:25
RoryMarlenee: Can you stop running your shell as root?15:25
zykotick9centaurus: not that i'm aware of..15:25
cgtdkzykotick9: I'll try with lightdm then15:26
Star-Flowerczoken, ok give me just a few minutes and i'll be back15:27
czokenOkay then15:31
lucky___hello, anyone who use tewrangled could help me with search and replace?15:32
uvalahello there! I downloaded latest v. Blender, and it doesn't start by clicking on blender.exe as it did before.15:38
Squarepyoh dear15:39
Zhaofeng_Liuvala: You need to download the Linux version of Blender15:39
Zhaofeng_Li...assuming you are using Ubuntu15:40
uvalaZhaofeng_Li , yes I downloaded Linux one15:40
uvalaalso yes, I have ubuntu15:41
Squarepyyes, so you don´t have a blender.exe15:41
Squarepyuvala,15:41
BluesKajuvala, the .exe  exten is for windows15:41
Zhaofeng_LiThen, why it has .exe suffix?15:41
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uvalasorry, it was meant for the sake of narration :) I wanted to say that I used to start it by clicking on the executable file named "blender"15:42
uvalaand clicking on it now doesnt open the program15:42
Squarepy:)15:43
Squarepyok, try running it from a terminal15:44
BluesKajuvala, what's the file extension ?15:44
Squarepysee if an error pops up15:44
Squarepyshould be a missing dependency or other15:44
Zhaofeng_Liuvala: Have you tried launching it from the terminal and see if any (error) message comes out?15:45
uvalaSquarepy, because I downloaded it straight from the website and not from repo, it says: The program 'blender' is currently not installed.  You can install it by typing:15:45
uvalasudo apt-get install blender15:45
LewesHello.15:45
czokenHey15:45
uvalaZhaofeng_Li , in the above message it tells me that it is not installed.15:45
Squarepyuvala, run it directly in the terminal, by selecting the path to the executable15:46
kawaii_nekox3_giHey15:46
uvalaoh ok15:46
LewesMe and my friend have a problem:15:46
Leweshttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=41yQYIGKG9A15:46
kawaii_nekox3_giCould someone help me please with my python school assignment? I'm struggling with a task :(15:46
Squarepyuvala, it is not added to the path that´s all15:46
kawaii_nekox3_gii posted the question on etherpad: http://openetherpad.org/p/py15:46
zykotick9uvala: you'll do better, sticking to ubuntu packages...15:46
Squarepykawaii_nekox3_gi, python, here, homework, meehh15:46
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kawaii_nekox3_gihmm?15:46
kawaii_nekox3_gio_O i know!15:46
uvalaSquarepy, is it just I type the path and press enter?15:47
Seb1929hi15:47
LewesMe and Seb1929 have an issue: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=41yQYIGKG9A Ubuntu goes to a blackscreen after boot.15:47
Squarepyuvala, f.i. go to the folder then ./blender...etc15:47
Zhaofeng_Liuvala: like /some/path/to/blender15:47
zykotick9!nomodeset | Lewes15:47
ubottuLewes: A common kernel (boot)parameter is nomodeset, which is needed for some graphic cards that otherwise boot into a black screen or show corrupted splash screen. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132 on how to use this parameter15:47
uvalayes, I mean just the path and enter , nothing else?15:48
Squarepyno why15:48
Zhaofeng_Liuvala: You first type "cd /the/directory/blender/is/in" and enter15:49
craftyguyHi, I have an issue on Ubuntu 13.10 Beta where wpa_supplicant crashes on login. The ubuntu bug reporting app keeps saying the bug has already been reported on launchpad (https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1210875), however this bug doesn't seem to exist. What's up with that?15:49
ubottuError: ubuntu bug 1210875 not found15:49
Zhaofeng_Liuvala: Then you type "./blender" to launch it15:49
fudusthat means it is private craftyguy15:49
zykotick9craftyguy: for 13.10, reask your question in #ubuntu+1 as it's not supported here.15:50
craftyguyfudus: thank you. why would this be private?15:50
craftyguyzykotick9: my question doesn't appear to really be specific to 13.10..15:51
SavantLewes: Dang! I watched that whole video but the error is like.. meaningless15:51
uvalaZhaofeng_Li , it says :    bash: ./blender: No such file or directory15:51
fudusProbably because it involves passwords, so it is only shown to Canonical staffers.15:51
zykotick9craftyguy: doesn't matter.  13.10 isn't supported here, yet.15:51
SavantLewes: You should add some details to the video, Ubuntu version, maybe add the text of the error15:51
Savant"Out of range !"15:51
Zhaofeng_Liuvala: Have you cd'd to the directory yet?15:51
czokenOkay i see, that Star-Flower does not appear. Can someone help me with sound bug on ubuntu? Built in speakers doesnt work but headphones do15:51
uvalaoh one second I need to correct it15:51
craftyguyfudus: ok, so when you come across a bug that is private and not able to automatically create a new bug with the reporting app, is it good practice to file another bug manually?15:52
LewesSavant: Ubuntu Server 64bit 12.04 happy :)15:52
uvalaZhaofeng_Li , I did this and came this: ~/Desktop/blender-2.68a-linux-glibc211-x86_64$ ./blender15:53
uvalabash: ./blender: cannot execute binary file15:53
fudusNo, it is already in the system, they'll have a look at it eventually.15:53
uvalaZhaofeng_Li , so it says it cannot execute it15:53
fudusIt is the weekend so it'll be delayed.15:53
zykotick9uvala: why don't you use the blender which is in ubuntu repo?  this seems like a make-work project.15:54
craftyguyyep, understood. hey thanks for the clarification, i was confused why it was not able to find a bug that supposedly existed :)15:54
Zhaofeng_Liuvala: Are you using the 64bit version of Ubuntu?15:55
uvalazykotick9, I haven't checked the current version in the repo, but it was quite an earlier one when I last downloaded it from there15:55
zykotick9uvala: so?15:55
uvalaand blender is updating quite often lately15:55
Zhaofeng_LiZyl15:55
Zhaofeng_LiSorry15:55
uvalaZhaofeng_Li , yes, it is 64bit15:56
fudusThere's probably a PPA that'll do all the work for you instead15:56
craftyguyzykotick9: you way want to consider adding something in the channel msg about support for betas is in #ubuntu+115:56
SavantLewes: Has the OS ever booted? Is this a fresh install?15:57
fudushttps://launchpad.net/~irie/+archive/blender15:58
czokenSo, can someone help me with that sound?15:58
uvalajust checked the version for Blender in the repo. it is 2.62. whereas the current one is 2.6815:59
OerHekscraftyguy, i find multiple bug reports https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/wpa/+bug/1230174 & https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/wpa/+bug/121553416:00
ubottuError: Could not gather data from Ubuntu for bug #1230174 (https://launchpad.net/bugs/1230174). The error has been logged16:00
ubottuError: Could not gather data from Ubuntu for bug #1215534 (https://launchpad.net/bugs/1215534). The error has been logged16:00
zykotick9!latest | uvala16:00
ubottuuvala: Packages in Ubuntu may not be the latest. Ubuntu aims for stability, so "latest" may not be a good idea. Post-release updates are only considered if they are fixes for security vulnerabilities, high impact bug fixes, or unintrusive bug fixes with substantial benefit. See also !backports, !sru, and !ppa.16:00
fudusczoken: Try askubuntu?16:00
czokenI have no idea what it is16:01
fudushttps://launchpad.net/~irie/+archive/blender Has 2.6816:01
uvalazykotick9, that's perfectly ok :) I was just referring to it as an answer to your question.16:01
LewesSavant: Fresh install16:01
Zhaofeng_Liuvala: that's wicked. You may try a... what fudus said16:02
fudushttp://askubuntu.com/search?q=sound+speakers+don't+work16:02
fudusOnly problem with sound I had I fixed by rebooting so can't help personally.16:02
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raul_phey guys, i want to super-secure my lamp stack ( vritual hosting, multi domains ). i was thinking to use apparmor. also, php-fpm ( so each user runs his own php as his user ). what i want is that if 1 account get's hacked, for that account to not be able to affect all other accounts. any suggestions ?16:03
uvalafudus, thank you! ppa is the latest indeed16:03
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Lewes[Error writing /etc/default/grub: Read-only file system] How to make it write?16:06
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Lewes[Error writing /etc/default/grub: Read-only file system] How to make it write?16:10
zykotick9Lewes: see http://askubuntu.com/questions/175739/how-do-i-remount-a-filesystem-as-read-write16:11
Leweszykotick9: What command do I put in then?16:11
LewesI'm not very use to this partition system16:12
Ntemishello16:12
Ntemishere it goes16:12
Ntemisserver latest kernel on it but still shows 12.04.216:13
Ntemismy desktop shows x.316:13
Ntemishow i fix this?16:13
justaguyreboot?16:13
Ntemisi did16:13
Ntemissomething is missing?16:13
Ntemispackage16:13
Ntemisi clean up the nand from old kernels because was getting full16:14
Ntemisand now i cant update properly16:14
Ntemisi mean i did manually update but it seems am missing a package16:14
Ntemisall ok though os side16:15
chimaymeta2-1;2A /buffer -116:15
ZampsonHey everyone. I set up a Samba share, and it worked for a while, but after I set up vsftpd and pptpd, the share is only accessible via IP, and not the share or the server show up on the network.16:18
ZampsonI allowed port 445 and 139 through ufw, but i  must be missing something16:18
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RoryNtemis: Do you get an error when you try to update?16:22
Eddy81 hello, does anyone know why google clears  search page when i search something and go to some website and then i decide to go back to search results ?16:22
RoryLewes: sudo mount -o remount,rw /partition/identifier /mount/point16:23
Lewes*hits head* I meant to reconfigure grub.16:23
RoryLewes: sudo update-grub16:23
LewesNooo16:23
LewesWe're changing GRUB config16:23
xan_ITneed help. i have server with ubuntu 12.04, i can access via SSH but when i try to connect via SAMBA doesent works. some day ago works fine. i need to access to home folder of user. anyone can try to help me using console ?16:24
Lewes[Error writing /etc/default/grub: Read-only file system]16:24
RoryYes Lewes and you need to remount the filesystem as read-write16:24
RoryLewes: Obviously replace /partition/identifier and /mount/point with the actual values - if you don't know them, please run the command "mount" and put the output on http://paste.ubuntu.com16:24
czokenEdit (or create) /etc/asound.conf with your favorite text editor (as root). Put the following contents in it (replace X and Y by the card and device numbers you saw): pcm.!default {       type plug slave.pcm {             type hw card X device Y       } } Then save, exit and reboot. I stuck here, how to do that?16:25
raul_phey guys, i want to super-secure my lamp stack ( vritual hosting, multi domains ). i was thinking to use apparmor. also, php-fpm ( so each user runs his own php as his user ). what i want is that if 1 account get's hacked, for that account to not be able to affect all other accounts. any suggestions ?16:26
Roryczoken: How do you do which part?16:26
czokenRory: Its Procedure Ad (Switch default sound card)16:28
Roryczoken: Are you following a guide? I don't understand what you mean by "Procedure Ad" sorry.16:28
czokenOh, yes I do. I do follow this guide https://docs.google.com/document/d/1iTlJ8BfqXUjaHO__TEdlkvuqB1WLOkGaudngc5SFLMI/edit?pli=116:29
NtemisRory: no errors16:32
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Roryczoken: Can you please run the command "aplay -l" and put the output on http://paste.ubuntu.com16:35
czokenRory: But i have ubuntu in polish, is that ok, or i have to do something?16:36
Roryczoken: The command is the same16:38
Rory!polish | czoken perhaps ask in here too16:38
ubottuczoken perhaps ask in here too: Na tym kanale używamy tylko języka angielskiego. Możesz uzyskać pomoc w języku polskim na #ubuntu-pl.16:38
Marleneewhat si init script for to run mysqld16:39
czokenhttp://pastebin.ubuntu.com/6197195/ Its this pasta Rory, if you mind, ill ask in ubuntu polish too16:39
mr_boohi16:40
atbhey16:40
atbmy speakers aren't playing any sound all of a sudden16:40
atbi tried rebooting and resetting pulseaudio16:40
czoken!polish16:40
ubottuNa tym kanale używamy tylko języka angielskiego. Możesz uzyskać pomoc w języku polskim na #ubuntu-pl.16:40
xan_ITneed help. i have server with ubuntu 12.04, i can access via SSH but when i try to connect via SAMBA doesent works. some day ago works fine. i need to access to home folder of user. anyone can try to help me using console ?16:40
czoken#ubuntu-pl16:40
mr_boohow do i search for multiple file names at once such as a list of say fileA.bin fileB.bin fileC.bin and so on?16:41
wyldemr_boo: ls *.bin16:41
atbanyone able to help?16:41
mr_boowylde: i want those specific files only16:41
Roryczoken: I think you will be better helped there. It may be slower to reply than here.16:41
mr_boowylde: not all bin files16:42
Roryatb: Are they turned on? Are they turned up if they have a physical volume control?16:42
overdubmr_boo, find /directory -type f -name "file?.bin"16:42
czokenRory: Thanks i'll try in polish16:42
NaeblisHello. I'm running Xubuntu Precise on my laptop. And I'm a problem that I can't log in. The screen that asks for the password doesn't show, and I get a few messages like "checking battery state [ok]". The last message is "could not open a connection to your authentciation agent", and the screen gets stuck there.16:42
Roryatb: Is the volume turned up in Ubuntu? run the "alsamixer" command - use the arrow keys16:42
NaeblisIf I press the shut down button, I get a couple more messages and it shuts down fine, though.16:43
atbrory: they're turned on, and the volume is up16:43
mr_boooverdub: the names i gave where arbitary i need to have a list of specific names16:43
overdubmr_boo, that will only work if the number in the file is one digit16:43
atbRory: trying the alsamixer thing now16:43
RoryNaeblis: If you press Ctrl+Alt+F1 you will get to a login screen. Can you log in OK with your user credentials using this?16:43
mr_booi want to be able to have a list or a file with filenames and be able to list if those exists16:43
mr_boocan this be done in ubuntu?16:43
Roryatb: The alsamixer thing *is* the volume control, but OK16:44
atbRory: yeah, everything in alsamixer is turned up16:44
Rorymr_boo: Yes, ask in #bash16:44
czokenRory: No one responds in polish :/16:44
NaeblisRory: yes, I logged in16:45
atbRory: i don't know if this could have caused this, but i killed Wine from the terminal because a program wasn't closing, and the program was using an fmod DLL16:45
FourFireHello16:45
FourFireI am looking at disk usage analyzer16:45
Marleneewhat is init script for to run mysql server ?16:46
FourFireand in my main Linux partition there seems to be a mirror image of usage16:46
FourFire(with one extra level on one side16:46
FourFire)16:46
FourFirethere's all my stuff16:46
GalvatronHi16:47
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FourFireabnd then there are some things which are exactly the same size with odd hash names16:47
LewesWe put in nomodeset and this happened: it did show Ubuntu login for 5 seconds then went black16:47
RoryNaeblis: From that shell, run the command: "sudo chown username: .Xauthority" - replacing "username" with your actual username16:47
RoryMarlenee: sudo service mysql start16:47
FourFirecalled ".ecryptfs"16:47
FourFirewhat is this, and how does it work?16:47
Roryatb: If you log in as another user, or the guest user, does the problem persist?16:48
RoryFourFire: It means you have set up an encrypted home directory16:48
MarleneeRory : mysql: unrecognized service16:48
atbRory: i'm the only user16:48
NaeblisRory: done16:48
RoryMarlenee: Is mysql actually installed?16:48
atbRory: i'm reinstalling pulseaudio to see if this works16:48
FourFireRory: is that good?16:48
RoryFourFire: I don't know, you tell me? You did it16:48
Roryatb: Try the guest user16:49
FourFireI don't know how I did it16:49
RoryFourFire: Probably during the installation, there's a tick box16:49
FourFireI probably randomly ticked a box--yes16:49
RoryFourFire: You probably thought encrypted home directory sounded really cool, and ticked it16:49
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RoryFourFire: It won't cause you problems probably16:49
FourFirebut why do all my files take 2x the space then16:49
MarleneeRory : yes sure16:49
FourFire(I'm finding myself low on space16:50
FourFire)16:50
GalvatronAfter playing the Steam version of Final Fantasy 7 through the laest version of Wine from the PPA my 12.04.3  (the "Raring" HWE stack) started to reset the resolution and refrest rate every time X gets restarted.  I've already tried reinstalling X and remoxing .config/moonitors.xml - to no avail. My GPU is a 7300GT + NV drivers 304.88.16:50
RoryFourFire: They don't really it just looks that way.16:50
FourFireit's a problem which I will shortly solve by upgrading my storage medium, but I'd like to know what it does/how it works too16:50
wyldeFourFire: technically they don't (it looks that way because the encrypted filesystem that actually takes up space is mounted to a directory)16:50
RoryFourFire: The real files are encrypted, and the encrypted container is mounted. The files are decrypted and presented to the system as if they were actually there16:50
RoryFourFire: Your low disk space issue is unrelated to encryption16:50
FourFireok16:51
RoryMarlenee: How did you install the MySQL server?16:51
linuxearthplease tell me the way to how install linux to pen drive, size: 64 GB16:51
atbRory: tried the guest session, still no audio16:51
kanhalinuxearth: burn linux iso in a pendrive16:52
Roryatb: Can you install the package "pavucontrol" and run it - this is the Pulse Audio configuration program16:52
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Roryatb: Use that to check levels, and to make sure the correct output device is selected in Pulse16:53
kanhalinuxearth: you can use startup disk creator for burning iso image to pendrive16:53
linuxearthkanha: yes but how?16:53
Rorylinuxearth: Do you mean to create a Live CD, or to actually install Ubuntu *to* the pen drive?16:53
Naeblisso should I now be rebooting?16:53
atbRory: it gave me an error; http://pastebin.com/61t3iWiE16:53
linuxearthhow? because in pen drive i want to put ubuntu but i have opensuse installed right now16:53
Rorylinuxearth: What are you planning to use the pen drive for? To install Ubuntu with onto your actual PC?16:53
linuxearthi actually want to install Ubuntu *to* the pen drive16:53
FourFirethanks for the info!16:54
linuxearthyes16:54
linuxearthok16:54
linuxearthi actually want to install Ubuntu *to* the pen drive16:54
atbRory: wow, it magically started working :D16:54
atbRory: thanks for the help anyway16:54
sarah33hello everyone. I just installed ubuntu on my laptop (sell with windows 8) but there is many problems, wifi card isn't recognize but the main problem is that all the system is lagging16:54
linuxearthi have currently opensuse installed, but i want to try ubuntu and if it would suit (for which i am hopeful), i would install to pc, i at first want to install it to pendrive and let the pc boot from pen drive16:55
RoryEasiest fix ever16:55
linuxearthso how do i proceed that's my doubt kanha16:55
Rorysarah33: We should fix your issues one at a time. Does the system have a make and model?16:55
Rorylinuxearth: You can just use a LiveUSB right? You can use unetbootin16:56
kanhalinuxearth: do you have startup disk creator app in opensuse?16:56
sarah33this is a hp pavillion16:56
sarah33Idon't know where I can found the exact model16:57
Rorysarah33: There are a lot of HP Pavillions, is there a more specific model number on a sticker somewhere?16:57
linuxearthkanha: i don;'t know16:57
sarah33one second I will check the bill16:57
linuxearthit is much advanced (thatt's why switching to ubuntu)16:58
Rorysarah33: It will be somewhere on the device16:58
linuxearthRory: unetbootin? what's that?16:58
kanhacheck out in apps16:58
sarah33HP Pavilion 17-e027sf16:58
RoryThank you sarah3316:58
Rorysarah33: What version of Ubuntu are you using?16:59
linuxearthok wait16:59
linuxearthi tell16:59
kanhalinuxearth: or follow the instruction here http://askubuntu.com/questions/197845/from-terminal-how-make-a-live-usb-for-all-distros-not-only-for-ubuntu  to make live usb from terminal16:59
linuxearthoh i check16:59
linuxearththat16:59
sarah33Rory, I have viewed this message at the startup: microcode: failled to load file amd-ucode/microcode_amd_fam16h.bin17:01
sarah33maybe this is the reason why the system is very low17:01
Rorysarah33: What version of Ubuntu are you using?17:02
OerHekssarah33, sudo apt-get install amd64-microcode # and reboot17:02
RoryI need to go out now - anyone who wants to help sarah33 she needs to get her Atheros AR9000 working, she won't say what Ubuntu version she's using17:04
sarah33the last version17:04
sarah3313.1017:04
Rory!13.10 | sarah3317:04
ubottusarah33: Ubuntu 13.10 (Saucy Salamander) will be the 19th release of Ubuntu. Announcement: http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/1252 - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1. Release date will be 17th October 2013.17:04
sarah33how can I know my version? I have tried uname -a but I don't see the os version17:05
zykotick9sarah33: "lsb_release -a"17:06
OerHekscat /etc/issue17:06
sarah33but I'm sure I have the last one, I have updated the system right after install17:06
sarah33ok 13.04 my bad17:06
Naeblisok found that my problem is pretty much this: http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/30030/xubuntu-oneiric-wont-start-xfce17:07
Naeblis(for precise)17:07
vincenzociao a tutti17:11
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vincenzoce qualcuno che mi puo aiutare per ubuntu?17:12
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DJones!it | vincenzo17:13
ubottuvincenzo: Vai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie! (per entrare, scrivi « /join #ubuntu-it » senza virgolette)17:13
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Slamanvmeson17:16
vmesonSlaman?17:17
gasshohuh17:22
gasshowhat happen17:22
gasshoy thank you chano17:22
gasshochanserv17:22
iDangerMouseMay I assist you with anything ?17:23
gasshohow did that 'lemme google dat' work?17:23
Naeblishuh. Reinstalling the nvidia driver did the trick.17:28
Naeblisthough I wonder what went wrong in the first place. Been using it just fine for over a year17:29
jdolesHow can I setup encrypted LVM for a new installation of Ubuntu LTS (the installation hasn't been done yet)?17:38
jdolesWhen I google I see old documents on the wiki (really useful to have those hanging around)17:39
dmobley88I'm wondering if ubuntu 13.10 has a program that will find and delete duplicate files on my hard drive...17:47
bekksdmobley88: Thats crossposting.17:47
reisiodmobley88: fdupes17:47
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Revhello all18:05
zykotick9dmobley88: fslint is a nice gui for such things18:05
Revi just noticed that my computer significantly slowed down since some weeks. I am suspecting that a data hard drive is at the end of its life18:07
Revis it possible that 1 hard drive which is not / or /home could still slow down the whole system?18:07
Revand how could i check that? by unmounting the disk and seeing if its faster?18:08
Revor should i completely unplug the disk?18:08
sammyso logging in with lightdm, the desktop (through EDID?) automagically finds the full resolution of the screen, but all my ttys are 4:3, shoved to the left of the screen. lightdm is also obviously stretched. I don't need to mess with any kernel cmdline in grub- maybe since this is an old install (ubuntu 11.x?) there's some cruft I need to remove?18:09
sammyRev: what makes you think its this disk?18:09
sammyRev: you could always unmount it, sure, and that would tell you if its the drive. but like you said, if the mount doesn't contain system files or your swap file, it shouldn't be chugging along for seemingly no reason18:10
Dr_Willisdmesg command would mention somthing if the drive isself is having errors also18:10
sammy^ that. `dmesg | grep hdX` is your friend18:11
Dr_Willisits normally sdx these days ;)18:11
paulus68_1Hi I want to install a ubuntu server on a hp Proliant ML310 during the install I get the question if I want to configure iSCSI volumes and then I get the question on what Ip my target and origine is? how to procede here18:11
Dr_Willispaulus68_1:  so you have iscsi volumes on your setup?18:12
sammyerm yes lol I'm not old I swear18:12
Revsammy, Dr_Willis well, the commands dont return anything specific, but i had trouble to access data on the disk earlier18:13
dangerousdave"You can use dtruss to work out where the system is looking for the certificate file." how do i do that?18:14
sarvsavRev : why dont you use disks utility?18:14
sarvsavor use smartctl from command line, but i would recommend to use GSmartControl, it's the best tool I have ever used.18:16
Revsarvsav, i dont know that solftware, i will see18:17
belkinsaIs there a way to check what PPA is causing the "Check Internet Connection" error with the software updater without guess and check?18:18
pfifobelkinsa: try running 'sudo apt-get update' from the command line18:20
belkinsaThank you, pfifo18:20
paulus68_1Dr_Willis: I have activated in my bios the embedded Sata Raid (raid 1)  and during install it gives the message (one of more drives containing serial ata raid configurations have been found do you wish to activate these raid devices  yes or no18:20
chro!release18:20
ubottuUbuntu releases a new version every 6 months. Each version is supported for 9 months to 5 years. More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases & http://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases18:20
chrowhen will 13.10 become available ?18:21
belkinsaOct 17, 101318:21
paulus68_1Dr_Willis: when clicking on yes I get configure Iscsi volumes undo change to partitions and finish partitioning and write changes to disk18:21
chrothanks18:21
belkinsaNot a problem.18:21
belkinsaAnd along with that question, why does the software updater not say what PPA that is causing the problem?  Is there a reason behind that?18:23
LewesWhy is my port 22 refused?18:23
Dr_WillisLewes:  perhaps you dont have any service running on it.18:24
LewesI have openssh-server installed18:24
Dr_Willisand you checked its logs?18:24
pfifoLewes: firewall could be blocking it18:24
LewesYes its running.18:24
Dr_Willisthe logs give more info then if iots running or not.18:25
LewesI've turned off ufw18:25
paulus68_1Dr_Willis: when just selecting finish partitioning it gives me the error that no root has been selected18:25
LewesHow to disable iptables?18:25
Dr_Willisconnections comming in, connections refused and so forth. If the server shows no connections comming in. then that would point to a firewall issue18:25
sammyLewes: sudo netstat -ntpl | grep 2218:25
pfifoLewes: compile you own kernel without iptable support18:25
Dr_Willisssh client has a -vvv option for very verbose outut18:25
sammyjust to be sure.18:25
Dr_Willispaulus68_1:  give a filesystem the mountpoint of /18:26
Lewespfifo: This is a Ubuntu 12.0418:26
Dr_Willissudo iptables --list                will show any rules that are in place - none by default.18:26
sammyoh yeah the verbose output is very nice actually. so anyone have any ideas on why X gets the EDID data fine and autosets the full screen resolution, but my ttys are 4:3, and even more odd, lightdm is obviously stretched? I would think lightdm would get the information as the same place as X/gnome/unity/whatever when it starts18:27
RydekullSo, ubuntu-desktop. How do I disable graphical desktop on boot?18:27
paulus68_1Dr_Willis: need to get past the iSCSI configuration first I'm affraid18:27
pfifoLewes: ok... still, to get rid of iptables, you have to disable it at the kernel level18:27
Dr_Willispaulus68_1:  no idea on that.   I thought iscsi was for networked scsi devices.18:27
Lewes pfifo; How could I do that with a pre-installed server? Wouldn't it be best to allow all incoming traffic?18:27
RydekullUbuntu 13.04 btw18:27
Dr_Willistheres no need to 'get rid of iptables' - you can just not have any rules.18:28
karol_Hi all !18:28
paulus68_1Dr_Willis: then you and I both are puzzling here :(18:28
LewesWould iptables -flush remove all the rules?18:28
pfifoLewes: spot on correct, just allow incoming connections, removing iptables all together would be a very very v. v. bad idea18:28
Dr_WillisLewes:  its --flush with 2 dashes..18:28
Dr_Willis!iptables18:28
ubottuUbuntu, like any other Linux distribution, has built-in firewall capabilities. The firewall is managed using the 'ufw' command - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UFW | GUI frontends such as Gufw also exist. | An alternative to ufw is the 'iptables' command - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo18:28
Dr_Willis--list will show IF theres any rules18:29
Dr_Williswhich by default are none - as far as i know.18:29
belkinsaHow to add an PPA that was already removed back?18:30
Ari-YangI have a question... if I install headers for kernel, will I also need the headers all .deb?18:30
gordonjcpAri-Yang: no18:30
gordonjcpAri-Yang: well, depends what you're trying to do.  Probably not.18:30
Ari-Yanggordonjcp: http://paste.opensuse.org/view/raw/1088171218:30
dmobley88mmmmm toasted everything bagel with cream cheese, 2 slices of pepper jack cheese, and 6 slices of turkey.... so yummy18:31
Ari-Yanggordonjcp: there are no headers all .deb for this kernel....18:31
LewesDr_Willis: http://i44.tinypic.com/29m14zk.jpg18:31
dmobley88I had to go buy my computer a cheese burger this morning.18:31
Lewes!nano18:32
ubottuText Editors: gedit (GNOME), Kate (KDE), mousepad (Xfce4) - Terminal-based: nano, vi/vim, emacs, ed - For HTML/CSS editors, see !html - For programming editors and IDE, see !code18:32
sammyRydekull: askubuntu.com (the ubuntu stack exchange) has this answer and is definitely my go-to first (FYI): google `askubuntu 79651`18:33
sammysorry I would have sent/pasted the actual URL but I opened irssi in a terminal where I can't paste :P18:33
Rydekullsammy: ... uh, right. Anyway. I've solved it already. thanks though.18:34
Se1929Hey18:34
sammyRydekull: what did you do? I was just trying to say stack exchange is a wealth of knowledge and the answers are up/down voted. didn't mean to be all 'RTFM!!!!'18:34
Amedhi all18:35
sammydmobley88: you owe me a bagel sandwich. all i have is reheated papajohns :((18:36
dmobley88hey sammy...18:36
gordonjcpAri-Yang: nothing in that paste makes much sense18:37
Ari-Yanggordonjcp: nvm I figured it out, I need headers all18:37
Rydekullsammy: Well, appearently in ubuntu 13.04 atleast, disabling the graphical interface has been moved to be a grub-entry. GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="text" in /etc/default/grub followed by grub-update solves it18:37
Rydekullsammy: Which to me, seems like a weird way of doing it. But yeah. Solved anyway18:37
gordonjcpAri-Yang: what exactly are you trying to do?18:38
Ari-Yanggordonjcp: it's okay, you don't need to help me. just upgrading kernel is all18:38
sammyRydekull: weird. I think I remember seeing this in androidx86 too, actually. so I think its something that gets appended to the kernel command line by grub.18:38
dmobley88papa johns - thick crust pizza, spinach alfredo (used instead of the red sauce), then pineapple, jalepenos, chicken, mushrooms, onion, green pepper, extra cheese, and crushed red pepper @ sammy18:38
* dmobley88 hands sammy a bagel sandwich.18:38
Rydekullsammy: Uh, didnt I just say it was?18:39
freshfish12.04 SBx00 Azalia (Intel HDA).  Want to use SPDIF with Digital Output 5.1, but it's not there.  only analog stereo out18:42
horseatingweedsIn kubuntu, how do you change dolphin settings?18:43
dmobley88my computer just swallowed an entire can of beans.18:45
mio6Hello, If I have a backup of my / (including /home) how can I transfer all my settings and files from there to a new fresh install?18:46
LewesWhy is my port 22 refused?18:46
LewesIs it my server refusing it or the router?18:46
dmobley88because you have to open it Lewes.18:46
daftykinsLewes: perhaps your ISP blocks it, or SSH isn't properly running on it18:46
bekksLewes: Because of your settings, most likely.18:46
bekksLewes: Did you install openssh-server?18:46
Lewesbekks: Yes18:47
Lewesdmobley88: It is open.18:47
bekksLewes: Where did you install it?18:47
freshfishLewes, from cli ufw disable18:47
Lewesbekks: I just did "sudo apt-get install openssh-server"18:47
freshfishon the host youwant to connect to.18:47
Lewesfreshfish: I already disabled ufw18:47
bekksLewes: Where? On the computer you want to connect to?18:47
Lewesbekks: Yes18:47
bekksLewes: Then try "ssh localhost" on that computer.18:48
Lewesbekks: My friend connected to the SSH on his other computer in the network.18:48
Lewesbekks: But its portforwarded and won't let me on.18:49
savrhi, when is the ubuntu kernel coming out? 2015? 2020?18:49
bekksLewes: You have to explain the entire networking setup first. Which computer is where, where are which portforwardings on which routers?18:49
yeatssavr: what do you mean by "ubuntu kernel"?18:50
bekkssavr: There will never be an ubuntu kernel. Ubuntu uses the linux kernel.18:50
Lewesbekks: The computer is connected to a Dlink DRR-655 router, on the router port 22 and 21 are portforwaded.18:50
bekksLewes: And that computer is where? At your home? At your friends home?18:50
savrbekks: for now18:50
Lewesbekks: Friends home18:50
bekksLewes: Then your friend has to fix his portforwardings.18:50
Lewesbekks: He has though, its been portforwarded and I've checked18:51
yeats!clone | mio618:51
ubottumio6: To replicate your packages selection on another machine (or restore it if re-installing), you can type « aptitude  --display-format '%p' search '?installed!?automatic' > ~/my-packages », move the file "my-packages" to the other machine, and there type « sudo xargs aptitude --schedule-only install < my-packages ; sudo aptitude install » (this may cause problems with multiarch before 12.10) - See also !automate18:51
bekksLewes: Then it would work.18:51
Lewesbekks: But its not, thats the problem18:51
bekksLewes: So his setup isnt correct.18:51
bekksLewes: How are you trying to connect in detail?18:51
Lewesbekks: Using PuTTy18:52
bekksLewes: How? By staring at it and hoping it will connect? What are you _doing_ in _detail_?18:52
savrin one hundred years ubuntu should push back all it's releases by a month so that in November 2103 we can have ubuntu 3.11 for workgroups18:52
bekkssavr: Do you have a specific ubuntu support question?18:52
Lewesbekks: I've installed PuTTy, and OpenSSH-Server and client on the server and disabled the firewalls.18:52
bekksLewes: And you are staring at it. What are you entering where _in_ _detail_?18:53
gordonjcpsavr: offtopic, but rofl18:53
Lewesbekks: What_do_you_mean?18:53
bekksLewes: Well, for using putty as an ssh client, you have to enter an IP and a port at least.18:54
Lewesbekks: Port 22 and IP 81.167.80.17818:54
bekksLewes: And which port did your friend forward?18:54
Lewesbekks: 22 TCP and UDP18:54
bekksLewes: UDP is not needed, since ssh uses TCP and not UDP.18:55
LewesBEKKS: Could it be disrupting it?18:55
bekksLewes: No.18:55
bekksLewes: But your issue is not an ubuntu issue anymore, since you arent using ubuntu, your friend is using ubuntu, your friend can successfully connect to his ubuntu, and the portforwarding of your friend is not working correctly.18:56
NaeblisI'm getting "API MIsmatch: Nvidia kernel module has version 304.88 but this driver has version 304.64 with Xubuntu.18:57
wyldeLewes: unless of course you've simply made a typo in the ip address and/or port 22 is filtered by your friends isp.18:58
Leweswylde: How can I change the port of the ssh server?18:58
wylde!sshd | Lewes18:58
ubottuLewes: SSH is the Secure SHell protocol, sshd is the server (or daemon) of SSH. For setting up the SSH server, please see: https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/serverguide/C/openssh-server.html . Advanced SSH uses: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSH/OpenSSH/Advanced . For SSH client information, see !ssh . Related: !scp (Secure CoPy)18:58
daftykinsLewes: i can certainly tell you that port 22 at that IP is closed18:59
riqdiizhi modeswitch command wont work even when I'm su! what could be the reason?19:02
SuperLagIf you're compiling something from source that's newer than what's in the repos... what is the best way to handle adding something to $PATH, so you don't create problems for later?19:02
riqdiizsays"access denied"19:02
raieverello everyone, need a lil help..19:04
jack*rephrase* why/when did adept get dropped?19:04
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jackbest apt gui ever, imho19:05
daftykinsraiever: ask the question19:05
raieveralright so.. ubuntu to usb external hard drive. read online many tuts etc none have work for the latest version..19:06
jackNoskcaj, remember "adept"?19:06
geirhajack: #kubuntu might be a better place to ask about that19:06
gordonjcpraiever: just make sure you pick the right drive when you go to install19:06
jackhmm, ok thx19:06
geirhaor do you mean the adept package has been completely removed?19:07
jackgeirha, yup19:07
jackit's not available anymore19:07
geniigeirha: Kubuntu went to Muon19:08
raieverusb external*, installing from live cd. HDD is formatted to ext4, (only have this drive and cd player plugged in so its the right drive).. installs fine but on first boot it hits grub rescue or "hard disk error" page.19:08
jackmuon??19:08
geniijack: Yes, that's the default package manager in Kubuntu now19:08
jackgenii, is that a newschool-adept?19:08
LewesWell we changed the port to port 25566 and same error.19:09
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raieverany help from anyone?19:10
bekksraiever: Where did you install grub to?19:10
geirhajack: Hm. Might be mentioned in kubuntu's release notes; it used to be the default package manager in kubuntu, didn't it? so the release notes might mention why it was removed19:10
Lewesbekks: Well we changed the port to port 25566 and same error.19:10
daftykinsLewes: i don't think you/your friend is port forwarding correctly. possibly missing a hidden router web admin page "apply" button to actually save the rule19:10
bekksLewes: Then your setup is still wrong.19:10
Lewesdaftykins and bekks: I checked and I was on teamviewer.19:11
daftykinsLewes: i can see the port is still closed19:11
genii!muon | jack19:11
ubottujack: Muon is the current Kubuntu package manager. Please see http://jontheechidna.wordpress.com/2010/07/05/introducing-qapt-and-the-muon-package-manager/ for an overview19:11
raieveri didnt manually install grub. just formatted the hdd and let the ubuntu installer do its thing.19:11
bekksLewes: SSH is working correctly, since your friend can connect. It is not an ubuntu issue but a "how do I configure the router" issue.19:11
wyldeLewes: then the problem is the forwarding on the router. Not an ubuntu support issue.19:11
Lewesdaftykins: I don't know whats blocking it.19:11
bekksraiever: And the installer asks you where to install grub.19:11
daftykinsLewes: is it pointing the rule to the correct LAN based IP? checked firewall?19:11
raieverthen it was installed to the external along with everything else.19:12
geniijack: If you have any more questions regarding Kubuntu , please ask them in the #kubuntu channel :)19:12
bekksraiever: Then your computer cant boot from that properly.19:12
jackgenii: merci bien19:12
jackjust installing muon19:13
raieverwell help me out then?:) looking in gparted the main drive is the boot flagged drive. have two 8 gigs set aside (swap and an extended)..19:13
jackkinda rapes my xubuntu19:13
bekksraiever: The boot flag isnt needed since 15 years anymore.19:13
jackbut maybe it's worth it19:14
bekks!grub2 | raiever19:14
ubotturaiever: GRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub219:14
raieverboot flag is auto set when the os is installed. not something i did.19:14
bekksraiever: And it isnt even needed since 15 years ;)19:15
bekksraiever: Did you alraedy read the links given by ubottu?19:15
raieverah well.. not yet loaded them but thenfirst one isnt what i have.. i dont have windows.19:16
bekksraiever: ubottu wrote more than one link.19:16
raieveryes i see that. like i said.. loaded them.. not it. :p19:17
meethow do i install g++? i am getting a dependancy error which will not be resolved automatically.19:18
raieverthe second one doesnt help me any either.. i dont have any second os installed.. the drive was formatted to ext3, then i just installed via normal install.. choosing to erase any files and install a fresh setup (just incase).19:18
jacknot included with a gcc pkg?19:18
bazhangmeet, install build-essential19:19
raieverthe setup put the boot, grub, etc and partitioned the srive as it saw fit..  but the srive will not boot. i even idked in bios for a minute to let the pc recognize the usb hdd and nothing.19:19
alkisgWhat's the default `umask` in Ubuntu? 0022?19:21
OerHeksalkisg, correct19:21
* alkisg somehow got 0002 in some of his systems... need to find out why... thank you OerHeks19:22
dmobley88my.pen.is.erect19:22
jacksame here alkisg19:22
jackjack@jack-desktop:~$ umask19:22
jack000219:22
raieveranyone done a ubuntu to usb external hdd here?19:23
alkisgjack: thank you, do you have 12.04?19:23
bekks!ops | dmobley8819:23
ubottudmobley88: Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - elky, Madpilot, tritium, Nalioth, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, Myrtti, mneptok, Pici,  jpds,  gnomefreak, bazhang,  Flannel, ikonia, maco, h00k, IdleOne, bkerensa, nhandler, Jordan_U, DJones or k1l!19:23
alkisgraiever: sure19:24
raievercan you be of some assitance?19:24
raieveror try at least?:)19:24
alkisgraiever: ask in the channel, I'll try to help as long as I'm around...19:24
Lewesbekks: Since of portforwarding issues; my friend is going to put WIndows 7 64bit on a server.19:25
alkisgOerHeks: I just tried ubuntu-12.04.3-i386.iso and got umask=0002... which version are you using?19:25
Flanneldmobley88: Please help keep this channel family friendly, thanks.19:25
daftykinsLewes: what a quitter :(19:25
Lewesdaftykins: Well portforwarding seems fine...19:25
bekksLewes: However that should be helpful. It will not help at all.19:26
dmobley88all I said was My Pen Is Erect. there's nothing wrong with a pen being erect...19:26
Lewesbekks; Thats exactly what I was trying to say19:26
jackalkisg, on this system yes19:26
bazhangdmobley88, got an actual ubuntu support question?19:26
raieveralright its pretty simple i just dont know whats going on.. im installing to usb external via live ubuntu disk.. hdd is partitioned to ext 3 by me, then the ubuntu installer does the rest.. everything installs and says to reatart and continue.. remove cd and hdd wont boot into os, just gives grub rescue screen.19:26
daftykinsraiever: definitely give a manual grub install a try19:27
alkisgraiever: how old is your system? are you 100% sure it exports the usb devices to grub?19:27
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alkisgAnd, where did you install grub? to the external mbr or to the internal one?19:28
Anonynimityno, dmobley88 doesn't but I do.19:28
raieverti have no idea how too. pretty new to ubuntu.. tired of windows dying. system was a custom build with parts only 2 years old. and i only have the external drive.. so if the ubuntu installer set the mbr itd be the external.19:28
Anonynimityhow in the heck do I install ubuntu touch on a non-supported device?19:29
bazhangAnonynimity, ask in #ubuntu-touch19:29
raieversorry for slow typing im on my phone atm.19:29
Anonynimitythx bazhang19:29
OerHeksalkisg, read this about umask 002 and 0022 http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/understanding-linux-unix-umask-value-usage.html19:29
geniiAnonynimity: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Porting is what they'll point you at19:30
AnonynimityI've read that alot genii19:30
Anonynimityit's not helping19:30
alkisgOerHeks: I'm more curious about why umask changed from 0022 to ubuntu 10.04, to 0002 to ubuntu 12.04...19:30
alkisg*in19:30
OerHeksalkisg, for ubuntu *root it is 0022, for the user 00219:30
geniiAnonynimity: Best bet then is to find someone knowledgeable in #ubuntu-touch channel that is working on a similar port19:30
AnonynimityI've tried19:31
Anonynimityno one is working on a port for the fusion 219:31
Anonynimity:(19:31
alkisgOerHeks: the 10.04 live cd has umask = 0022, the 12.04 live cd has umask = 0002, both for the "ubuntu" live user (and for the users created after installation)...19:31
alkisg...but I don't know yet why... searching...19:31
bekksalkisg: why is that live cd umask of importance?19:32
alkisgbekks: it isn't; it's just a method to check that it's not some local change in my system, that it's a global ubuntu change19:32
bekksalkisg: Then differences between livecds are irrelevant - totally.19:32
raieverno help? /:19:32
bekksalkisg: unless you do know that you remastered the livecd, it is a global change.19:33
alkisgbekks: how so? umask is set from pam, and I don't think live cds have some customized umask...19:33
bekksalkisg: livecds do not "memorize" settings.19:33
alkisgSo whatever is on the live CDs, will appear in the installed system19:33
alkisgbekks: I really don't understand your point19:33
alkisgWhat I'm saying is that 10.04 had umask=0022 and 12.04 has umask=0002, and that is proved by a clean installation19:34
bekksalkisg: I dont see why the umask change on the live cd is of importance at all.19:34
alkisgBooting a live cd is similar to a clean installation19:34
bekksalkisg: no it isnt.19:34
alkisgWhy?19:34
alkisgDo you know of any casper code that customizes umask?19:34
bekksalkisg: because the live cd is preconfigured and does not contain all the packages installed on a fresh installed system.19:34
alkisgbekks: prove it19:34
blissi!ops19:35
ubottuHelp! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - elky, Madpilot, tritium, Nalioth, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, Myrtti, mneptok, Pici,  jpds,  gnomefreak, bazhang,  Flannel, ikonia, maco, h00k, IdleOne, bkerensa, nhandler, Jordan_U, DJones or k1l!19:35
alkisgWhat part of the live CD customizes umask?19:35
bekksalkisg: You said it would be the same - YOU prove it.19:35
Flannelblissi: yes?19:35
alkisgIt's obvious, I don't see any customization in the casper code19:35
Myrttiblissi: yyyyyeeeeesss?19:35
blissiFlannel: Myrtti unity sucks19:35
alkisgSo if you imagine that it's different, you need to specify where it gets different19:35
Myrttiblissi: use something else then. move on.19:35
blissihmmmmmm19:35
alkisgAnyways, it's not important19:35
alkisgYou can do a clean installation if you have doubts19:36
jackalright, muon rules19:36
Myrttijack: we're not even starting that.19:36
bekksalkisg: I dont need to since I dont see the importance of the umask on livecds.19:36
bekksalkisg: And on a fresh installed system, you will have 0022.19:36
alkisgbekks: nope19:36
alkisgAs other 2 people reported, they have 000219:36
IdleOneblissi: you pinged 20+ people for no good reason. Please don't do that again.19:36
cvtsxherro19:36
blissi!ops19:37
jackMyrtti, np :) but - i already love it19:37
blissiIdleOne: is being mean to me19:37
blissi!op19:37
ubottuHelp! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - elky, Madpilot, tritium, Nalioth, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, Myrtti, mneptok, Pici,  jpds,  gnomefreak, bazhang,  Flannel, ikonia, maco, h00k, IdleOne, bkerensa, nhandler, Jordan_U, DJones or k1l!19:37
harshalhi19:37
harshali need help19:37
FlannelMmm, chanserv lag.19:37
LjLIdleOne: stop being mean please19:37
IdleOneLjL: you got it19:37
harshalhey19:38
bekksalkisg: 3 people havin a specific issue - without further details - doesnt make that a global problem, just my two cents. I'd stop this conversation now, since I dont see any value in it anymore.19:38
harshali have problem in gcc19:38
harshalwhile sattic compilation19:38
alkisgbekks: sure, I'm only interested in finding out why ubuntu globally changed umask for all desktop users in 12.04. I'll post the result when I find it.19:39
harshalany one could help me19:39
bekksalkisg: ubuntu didnt.19:39
cvtsxhow do i log in to my freenode account?19:39
bekksalkisg: if they did, all other using 12.04 and above would have the same issue-19:39
wylde!details | harshal19:39
alkisgbekks: ok let's stop arguing until I found out the result, I'll let you know19:39
ubottuharshal: Please give us full details. For example: "I have a problem with ..., I'm running Ubuntu version .... When I try to do ..., I get the following output: ..., but I expected it to do ..."19:39
alkisgbekks: it's quite possible that all do19:39
cvtsxhow do i log in to my freenode account?19:39
Myrtti/msg nickserv help identify will give you instructions19:40
wyldecvtsx: /msg nickserv identify   username password19:40
cgtdkit's better to use /quote nickserv19:40
jackcvtsx, /nick bla; /msg nickserv identify blabla19:40
SuperLagyou don't even have to specify the username19:40
bekksalkisg: Nope, we would have noticed since 04/2012.19:40
wyldecvtsx: don't do it in a channel window. Just in case ;)19:40
cvtsxthank you19:40
cvtsxshit19:40
bekksalkisg: Lets stop argueing, find the issue, and report instead of suspecting things.19:40
alkisgrIGHT19:40
cvtsxthanks guys ;)19:40
alkisgon to it...19:40
yansHello19:42
dwwdwdwhich kernel is running on ubuntu 13.04?19:43
alkisgbekks: here's the blueprint, reading... https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/umask-to-000219:43
bekksdwwdwd: 3.8.0-xy19:43
dwwdwdbekks: where can I check out in the site?19:43
bekksdwwdwd: packages.ubuntu.com19:44
bekksdwwdwd: What are you looking for, specifically?19:44
genii!info linux-image-generic raring19:45
ubottulinux-image-generic (source: linux-meta): Generic Linux kernel image. In component main, is optional. Version 3.8.0.31.49 (raring), package size 2 kB, installed size 33 kB19:45
dwwdwdbekks: I need 3.5 or newer kernel for my hardware http://pastebin.com/gNB0J2xU19:45
bekksalkisg: your "blueprint" moves the setting of the umask from the profile to the pam facility. Thats slighty different from "setting it to 002" ;)19:46
alkisg"Change the default umask to 0002 "19:46
bekksdwwdwd: Then you will be fine with Ubuntu 13.0419:46
methdoizeis this the right place for help troubleshooting a laggy minecraft installation?19:47
yansI have such a problem - http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=oazog3&s=5#.UlBsx7OLelM19:47
yansYesterday i try several diffrent icons themes, at least i decide to use fs-icon19:48
falkenhorstich nutze ubuntu 13.04 und suche den mozilla/thunderbird ordner ,..weil ich meine mails migrieren will...weiß jemand wo dieser ist?19:48
genii!de | falkenhorst19:48
ubottufalkenhorst: In den meisten Ubuntu-Kanälen wird nur Englisch gesprochen. Für deutschsprachige Hilfe besuche bitte #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #edubuntu-de oder #ubuntu-at. Einfach "/join #ubuntu-de" eingeben. Danke für Dein Verständnis!19:48
yansBut after installation i become such error when ill try to update my system19:48
falkenhorstok19:48
ubuntu-addictHello. I want to buy a ROG G750. Somebody knows if it's possible to install ubuntu on it or not? Thanks in advance19:49
yansWhay should i do to fix it?19:49
bekksubuntu-addict: what is that?19:49
ubuntu-addictbekks: what is what?19:50
bekksubuntu-addict: Whats a "ROG G750"?19:50
ubuntu-addictAsus ROG G75019:50
cjwelborngaming laptop i think19:50
ubuntu-addictyes19:50
cgtdkubuntu-addict: Don'19:52
cgtdkubuntu-addict: Don't buy a gaming laptop19:52
ubuntu-addictwhy?19:52
cgtdkToo much heat, noise, and power consumption19:52
alkisgbekks: so to sum up, it's implemented since oneiric, and it affects all users that belong to their own private group (e.g. alkisg:alkisg), while the rest still have 0022 (e.g. alkisg:teachers)19:53
ubuntu-addictbut necessary in my job for high level calculations19:53
xan_ITneed help with samba on server, access via ssh works but via samba not. it's a server on intenret19:53
xan_ITwith ubuntu 12.0419:53
cgtdkubuntu-addict: Why not get a desktop computer instead?19:53
cgtdkor a server?19:53
ubuntu-addicti need to move...19:53
bekksubuntu-addict: you dont need a gaming laptop for calculations. you need a high end laptop for high end business. Not gaming.19:54
cgtdkubuntu-addict: All right, just don't get a gaming laptop. They are for suckers.19:54
cgtdkYes, do what bekks said19:54
ubuntu-addictdo you have a model in mind?19:54
cgtdkLenovo Thinkpad W models perhaps19:54
bekksubuntu-addict: No.19:54
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ubuntu-addicti need i7 16go ram 2hdd at least 2x750Go and GT780 4Go for ~1500€19:55
cgtdkbut I don't know much about that particular segment of the laptop market19:55
cgtdkhttp://shop.lenovo.com/us/en/laptops/thinkpad/w-series/w530/19:55
bekksubuntu-addict: you dont need specific graphics cards for business. Do you do CUDA? If not, you dont need them.19:56
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cgtdkbekks: he said he needs to do "high level calculations"19:57
cgtdkwhatever that means19:57
bekkscgtdk: he used another word for gaming. If he really would do that, he already would have answered yes.19:57
ubuntu-addictscientific calculations19:57
jhutchinsubuntu-addict: You can almost certainly install ubuntu on any intel based laptop.  Whether all of the bleeding edge hardware will work or will have all it's features available is another question.19:58
jhutchinsubuntu-addict: Somebody has to buy one and try it, and report whether it works.  Otherewise nobody knows.19:58
ubuntu-addictif for example the backlight doesn't work it not a problem. Most important is if ubuntu can be installed and work without crash19:59
cgtdkhttp://www.ubuntu.com/certification/desktop/19:59
James_EppHey guys. Doing network installs using this guide (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/LocalNet#A_variation:_Booting_the_.22Live_CD.22_image). However, on every machine I do the install on, none of them have wired connection options. This is quite frustrating. How can I resolve this? Ubuntu 12.04.219:59
ubuntu-addictjhutchins: this is the reason why I ask here. I hope that some G750 owner will answer19:59
jhutchinsubuntu-addict: Better to search the web, and don't limit it to ubuntu, look for any linux.20:00
bekksubuntu-addict: And dont focus on a gaming laptop when really doing scientific calculations.20:00
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ubuntu-addicti search over internet but didn't find the answer. I found only this question a lot of time but never answered20:01
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* jhutchins wonders why a laptop too.20:01
ubuntu-addictthis is why I'm here...20:01
bekksubuntu-addict: This isnt ##hardware ;)20:01
cgtdkjhutchins: He "needs to move"20:01
ubuntu-addicti have 2 offices20:01
bekkscgtdk: read: "I want gaming".20:01
cgtdkbekks: I refuse to read that20:02
ubuntu-addictHey bekks it is not for gaming20:02
bekksubuntu-addict: Then dont buy a gaming laptop.20:02
jhutchinsubuntu-addict: Check with other users in your industry.20:02
cgtdkubuntu-addict: what kind of "scientific calculations"?20:02
bekksubuntu-addict: If you need to do scientific calculations, buy a PC for that, fitting your needs. But not a gaming laptop.20:02
ubuntu-addictbekks but do you know another i7 16go ram 2hdd at least 2x750Go and GT780 4Go for ~1500€?20:03
cgtdkwhen you say "Go" do you mean "gigabyte"?20:03
cgtdkthere's no 'o' in 'gigabyte'20:03
bekksubuntu-addict: you dont need three specific graphics cards for scientific calculations. If you want a justification for a gaming laptop, just go and get it.20:04
ubuntu-addictdell T560 is better ok but the price.....20:04
cgtdkbekks: try to be nice to people :-)20:04
ubuntu-addictbekks don't speak about what you don't know please20:04
bekkscgtdk: I am nice. This discussion about the justification for a gaming laptop is just pointless. :)20:05
ubuntu-addictcgtdk: it's for dft calculations if you know?20:05
cgtdkubuntu-addict: I don't20:05
[snake]how can I check for keyloggers?20:05
dangerousdave"You can use dtruss to work out where the system is looking for the certificate file." how do i do that?20:06
cgtdkdensity functional theory?20:06
ubuntu-addictyes20:06
ubuntu-addictabinit20:06
bekksdangerousdave: First, you need a linux system, since dtruss is available on solaris only.20:06
dangerousdaveheh?20:06
dangerousdaveif its only on solaris, i need solaris do i not?20:07
jhutchinsdangerousdave: That or a solution that works on linux.20:07
bekksdangerousdave: if you are using solaris, you dont have an ubuntu issue :)20:07
cgtdkubuntu-addict: what is the exact model Asus ROG you are looking at?20:07
jhutchinsdangerousdave: There are a lot of different things that use certificates, what are you really trying to do?20:07
cgtdkG750JX-DB71?20:07
dangerousdavetrying to fix "openssl::ssl::sslerror: ssl_connect returned=1 errno=0 state=sslv3 read server certificate b: certificate verify failed"20:07
ubuntu-addictcgtdk G750JH T404020:07
jhutchinsCould the hardware discussion maybe go to #hardware?20:08
dangerousdavelots of stuff online, hasn't worked for me though20:08
jhutchinsdangerousdave: One more step back please.  What are you trying to do when it gives you that failure?20:08
cgtdkubuntu-addict: Do you have a link to its specifications?20:08
wylde!info rkhunter | [snake]20:08
ubottu[snake]: rkhunter (source: rkhunter): rootkit, backdoor, sniffer and exploit scanner. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.4.0-2 (raring), package size 206 kB, installed size 876 kB20:08
jhutchinscgtdk: #hardware please?20:08
cgtdkjhutchins: tell ubuntu-addict20:09
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jhutchinscgtdk: You could also take it to /msg20:09
ubuntu-addictcgtdk: https://www.amazon.fr/Asus-G750JH-T4040H-Ordinateur-portable-Windows/dp/B00E5K6DIE20:10
[snake]wylde, thankyou so much. Someone was hijacking my adobe acount and I'm in a buzz sorta o-o20:11
tb01110100What WM is Ubuntu + Unity using right now? Is it compiz?20:15
OerHekslightdm20:17
tb01110100Uh..20:17
cgtdkOerHeks: that's not a WM20:17
tb01110100Window Manager?20:17
tb01110100That's a desktop manager.20:18
cgtdkAs of 2010 the Unity shell interface developers use a toolkit called Nux instead of Clutter.[38] Unity is a plugin of the Compiz window manager,[15] which Canonical states is faster than Mutter,[39] the window manager for which GNOME Shell is a plug20:18
cgtdkaccording to Wikipedia20:18
tb01110100Thanks.20:18
jhutchins+  cgtdk20:27
cgtdkjhutchins: what?20:27
James_EppHey guys. Doing network installs in a fashion similar to this: (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/LocalNet#A_variation:_Booting_the_.22Live_CD.22_image). However, on every machine I do the install on, none of them have wired connection options. That is, when in the live environment everything works fine, but in the actual installation, no wired networking is available. This is quite frustrating. How can I resolve this? 20:27
jhutchinscgtdk: Good Cite.20:27
vasilyпривет20:28
cgtdkAll right20:28
MonkeyDust!ru20:28
ubottuПожалуйста наберите /join #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке. | Pozhalujsta naberite /join #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke.20:28
jhutchinsJames_Epp: Figure out which chipset you're dealing with.20:28
vasilyhi20:28
jhutchins!ru20:29
ubottuПожалуйста наберите /join #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке. | Pozhalujsta naberite /join #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke.20:29
dqwqwddqw!steam20:29
ubottuValve have officially announced that they are developing Steam and are working with !ubuntu during their development, see http://blogs.valvesoftware.com/linux/steamd-penguins/ for further details, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Valve for install instructions, you can also join #ubuntu-steam for discussion.20:29
dqwqwddqwhi20:29
James_Eppjhutchins: How? Also, that isn't really going to assist. It seems to be like something is not carried over in any installs. This is the case from those terrible embedded VIA processors to AMD to Intel boards. I do not believe it is hardware releated.20:29
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tozenvasily: kak sam, brat?20:30
jhutchinsJames_Epp: It is hardware related.20:30
jhutchinsJames_Epp:  The live CD install works on some hardware.20:30
ub-beginnerIs ubuntu compatible with every computer or not? I heard that it is more difficult with uefi but not impossible. Is it true?20:30
dqwqwddqwhi how to install Steam on ubuntu20:31
vasilyhot est tut russkie)20:31
jhutchinsJames_Epp: My guess is that your hardware requires non-free firmware for the NIC.20:31
bekksdqwqwddqw:20:31
tozenvasily:  da ets', est' :)20:31
James_Eppjhutchins: The live CD works perfectly on all of these machines. Only the network install does not.20:31
jhutchinsJames_Epp: Although, ubuntu shoul dhandle that.20:31
bekksdqwqwddqw: Please read what ubottu wrote regarding steam.20:31
cgtdkub-beginner: Not every computer, but it does work well with many20:31
vasilyubuntoq davno polzueshsia&20:31
cgtdkub-beginner: Just disable secure boot and it should be fine with UEFI as far as I know20:31
jhutchins!pl20:32
ubottuNa tym kanale używamy tylko języka angielskiego. Możesz uzyskać pomoc w języku polskim na #ubuntu-pl.20:32
cgtdk!secureboot20:32
tozenvasily: goda poltora, a chjo?20:32
ub-beginnercgtdk: when it doesn't work is it just like the fn key don't work? or it doesn't work at all??20:32
jhutchinsub-beginner: EFI requires a little more user care and involvement to set up.20:32
ub-beginnercgtdk: when it doesn't work is it just like the fn key don't work? or it doesn't work at all??20:32
jhutchinsub-beginner: More like it's harder to get the bootloader installed correctly.20:32
ub-beginnerok20:32
James_EppThrowing it out there: I disable secure boot and CSM in asus boards permanently and re-do the OS.20:33
James_Epp*that is, enable CSM20:33
vasilyne probeval arch7 i segodnz ves deni probival ystanavlivat))20:33
jhutchinsJames_Epp: The only way you're going to find a solution is if you figure out what's going wrong and why, and how to fix it.20:33
dqwqwddqwbekks: the problem is that from the ubuntu software center I can't click install it there's a buy button instead of install button, but Steam is free20:33
tozenvasily:  nea, mnu i na bubne kajfova20:34
bekksdqwqwddqw: You dont need the software center to install software.20:34
dqwqwddqwbekks: so what sudo apt-get install steam?20:34
jhutchinsdqwqwddqw: Follow the link above link for install instructions.20:34
bekksdqwqwddqw: Read the second link ubottu gave you.20:35
dqwqwddqwhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/Valve this one?20:35
dqwqwddqwright?20:35
bekksdqwqwddqw: Yes.20:35
vasilynu a mne na debiane) dli razvitia ystanovil. ne znaesh kak tyt zaiti v gryppy arch?20:35
dqwqwddqwokay I am reading20:35
tozenvasily:  blin, u guglja sprosi, brat! :)20:36
vasilysprosit kak tyt naiti gryppy) vratli naidy)20:36
vasilyvot gde mne english ychit) tyt perepisivatsi s americansami)20:38
genii!ru20:38
ubottuПожалуйста наберите /join #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке. | Pozhalujsta naberite /join #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke.20:38
vasilyHI! UBUNTU-FOREVER20:38
vasilyDo  what you using KDE, Unity, Gnome< XFCE?20:40
Marleneehow i fix E: Could not perform immediate configuration on 'python-minimal'.Please see man 5 apt.conf under APT::Immediate-Configure for details. (2)20:42
OoOohow do I get to the ubuntu patition20:43
OoOoI have windows too20:43
ernie24I have just blank desktop, no  Unity launcher, no windows, nothing, even keyboard binds like Alt+T or Super don't work, any hints?20:43
vasilyin setting keyboerd20:44
tozenernie24: what u've done before problem appeared?20:45
OoOohelp20:46
tozenOoOo: what the matter?20:46
OoOohow to select the linux partition to boot into20:46
OoOoi have a windows partition too20:46
cvtsxye i dual boot also20:47
ernie24tozen - well, nothing particular, I just experienced sudden power down yesterday. Today I just logged into empty desktop.20:47
cvtsxits the only way 2 go20:47
jhutchinsOoOo: You should see the grub boot menu when you start up.  It should have entries for both Windows and Debian, and Debian should be the default.  If it's not, you need to fix grub.20:47
OoOoi dont20:48
OoOoI see the bios then windows20:48
jhutchinsOoOo: Then you have not successfully installed grub.20:48
vasilyupdate-grub20:48
bekksOoOo: Did you install windows after ubuntu?20:48
jhutchinsvasily: Not if he doesn't see it to begin with.  Good fix if he doesn't have a windows option.20:48
OoOoyes20:49
jhutchinsOoOo: Which version of windows?20:49
OoOoxp20:49
bekksOoOo: Then you have to repair your grub bootloader now.20:49
jhutchins!fixgrub20:49
ubottuGRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub220:49
jhutchinsOoOo: Windows took over the bootloader.  It's not friendly to other OSs.20:50
vasilyOoOo: update-grub20:50
jhutchinsvasily: no.20:51
OoOoI dont have the cd20:52
jhutchinsvasily: That only updates the menus, scanning for new bootable partitions.  It does not fix the mbr which gets over-written by windows.20:52
OoOoand I cant get into linux os20:52
vasilyI bad know english language)20:52
jhutchinsOoOo: How did you install ubuntu to begin with.20:52
OoOooh wait20:52
vasilyinstall ubuntu very install20:53
vasilyinstall ubuntu very simpl20:53
ernie24tozen: ok I was able to fix it - http://askubuntu.com/questions/17381/unity-doesnt-load-no-launcher-no-dash-appears/286349#28634920:54
mrdebplease explain how to install on uefi laptop. thank u20:54
ernie24mrdeb: what do you want to install?20:55
mrdebernie24: linux20:56
OerHeks!uefi20:56
ubottuUEFI is a specification that defines a software interface between an operating system and platform firmware, it is meant as a replacement for the BIOS. For information on how to set up and install Ubuntu and its derivatives on UEFI machines please read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI20:56
ernie24mrdeb with Ubunty you don't need to do anything special20:56
ernie24it will update UEFI records for you20:56
vasilybay20:57
mrdebernie24: what about debian 720:57
Titaniumwhy does ubunutu installer yell at me when I do not create a swap partition?20:59
cgtdkmrdeb: ask a Debian channel20:59
Titaniumdo I really need one if I do not plan to swap?20:59
cgtdkTitanium: No20:59
ernie24mrdeb: if I am not wrong, any distro with grub that is not ancient will do that20:59
Titaniumcgtdk thanks20:59
mrdeb!ops20:59
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mrdebernie24: thank you20:59
OerHeksTitanium, you might want to use hybernate, that is what it is complaining about20:59
mrdebat least you were not rude20:59
cgtdkI'm running without swap myself on several boxes and it's running fine (as long as you have enough memory)20:59
Myrttimrdeb: yyyyyeeeeesss?20:59
wyldeTitanium: you need one if you plan to use suspend/"sleep" though20:59
wwqdwqd!nvidia20:59
ubottuFor Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VideoDriverHowto20:59
cgtdkOerHeks: Do people actually use that?21:00
OoOohow am I meant to find boot repair21:00
bekksTitanium: if you want to suspend, you need a swap partition as large as your RAM.21:00
Titaniumcgtdk i have over 2x as much ram as disk21:00
OerHekscgtdk, dunno, i have no screensaver too21:00
Titaniumcgtdk so not really an option to swap ;)21:00
OoOoim booting from the cd21:00
bekksTitanium: so you cant suspend. How much RAM do you have?21:00
OoOoI cant find 'boot repair'21:00
Titanium512GB21:00
cgtdkBy suspend do you mean something different from standby?21:00
bekksTitanium: which server is that?21:01
TitaniumC460M221:01
MyrttiI guess no ops needed then?21:01
wwqdwqdI can't find Additional Drivers on my ubuntu 13.04?21:01
bekksTitanium: From which manufacturer? :)21:01
Titanium64 memory slots, and its quad socket, quad channel per socket, 4DPC21:01
Titaniumcisco21:01
ernie24have a nice time all21:01
Titaniumits my new desktop ;)21:01
OoOohelp21:02
bekksTitanium: you poor. you must be deaf meanwhile.21:02
Titaniumbekks nope, i still got money leftover to buy the GPU and sound ccard ;)21:02
OerHeksTitanium, so why don't you have a spare 512 ssd for that ?21:02
Titaniumbekks and i have it in a 6U silentenclosure21:02
bekksOerHeks: Thats wasting money. SSD for swap usage. :)21:03
TitaniumOerHeks seems like a waste of an SSD when I have 209 (and soon to be 40) TB of storage21:03
Titanium20* not 20921:03
bekksTitanium: Still too load and too much power consumption, imho.21:03
OerHeksbekks, he would be able to hybernate then21:03
Titaniumi got adapter for range plug21:03
valroadie!nomodeset21:03
ubottuA common kernel (boot)parameter is nomodeset, which is needed for some graphic cards that otherwise boot into a black screen or show corrupted splash screen. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132 on how to use this parameter21:03
bekksOerHeks: It is a server. No need to hibernate.21:03
Titaniumso i get 30 amps of 22021:03
Titaniumuses 1KW+ at full load21:04
OoOoI also need to make the linux volume smaller and make the windows one bigger21:04
bekksTitanium: Thats pretty much.21:04
Titaniumi plan to get 4 of them21:04
bekksTitanium: I'd replace them with one Oracle SPARC T5-2 :P21:04
Titaniumbekks but then you cannot run games :(21:04
dee!nomodeset21:04
ubottuA common kernel (boot)parameter is nomodeset, which is needed for some graphic cards that otherwise boot into a black screen or show corrupted splash screen. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132 on how to use this parameter21:04
bekksTitanium: I dont play games.21:05
OoOohelp21:05
Titaniumbekks that is what I am getting thos one for21:05
bekksTitanium: Ah, waste of money and power. OK.21:05
Titaniumbekks i multibox, so i need a bunch of CPU power and lots of PCIe slots21:05
pentesterhello21:06
OoOopls help21:07
pentesterSo my wireless is working fine without my Ubuntu desktop on the LAN. As soon I plug in an ethernet cable the internet goes down on all clients on network. LAN still works21:07
pentesterAny ideas what could be causing this21:07
wyldepentester: sounds like you have a dhcp server running on your ubuntu box overiding your router. Just a thought.21:09
pentesterwylde, any particular program i should look for?21:09
bigbadbenwhat is a good hex editor to use for ubuntu21:11
wyldepentester: ps aux | grep -i dhcp ? Also check the configuration of the network adapter connecting to your local network.21:11
Happzzhey, i have php5.3.10 installed21:11
Happzzi wanna update to the latest 5.4.whatever21:11
Happzzapt-get update and then upgrade says it's all up to date.21:12
Happzzwhat am i missing?21:12
bekksHappzz: Thats the latest version from the ubuntu repos.21:12
pentesterI just plugged it back into ethernet and everything is working. I didnt do anything.21:12
Happzzbekks are you sure? it's old like omg21:13
bekksHappzz: check on packages.ubuntu.com21:13
rrmcan anyone recommend me a laptop without windows installed with no tpm, secure boot and computrace since most of these new ones seem to have 2 or more of these "features"21:13
Happzzbekks 5.4.9-4ubuntu2.3?21:14
bekksHappzz: For your specific ubuntu release?21:14
cvtsxrrm just get a reg laptop and use a bootable usb21:14
bekksHappzz: Which ubuntu release do you have?21:14
Happzzbekks not sure.21:15
cvtsx12.0421:15
bekksHappzz: Whats the output of "lsb_release -sd"?21:15
Happzz12.04.3 LTS21:15
bekksHappzz: latest php version for precise is 5.3.1021:18
cgtdkrrm: Windows being pre-installed is often cheaper because of all the bloatware the OEMs are paid to add21:23
cgtdkiirc21:23
darkangelhow does 1 Debug a program or any thing?21:24
cgtdk!details | darkangel21:24
ubottudarkangel: Please give us full details. For example: "I have a problem with ..., I'm running Ubuntu version .... When I try to do ..., I get the following output: ..., but I expected it to do ..."21:24
darkangelis there a web site how to debug stuff? like a Setup.exe game disk21:25
cgtdkI don't understand what you are talking about (other than having something to do with debugging)21:25
cgtdkWhat is a 'setup.exe game disk'?21:25
darkangelsetup.exe of a install program peace that u see on a disk21:26
darkangelLauncher21:26
bekksdarkangel: you cant run windows .exe files directly.21:26
mrrcphow do i make a shortcut link on my desktop to a sftp location!21:27
darkangelI know i done tryed Wine 1.7.3. but if u Send a bug report they all ways have something to bit ur head off about21:27
darkangelso ima up for fixing my own stuff21:27
jcrzaIs there a channel for hardware prototyping?21:28
cgtdkjcrza: /list21:28
bekksdarkangel: wine setup.exe21:28
darkangelis there no WebSite where it will Train u how to debug? programs?21:28
mrrcpanyone?21:29
gregor3005hi, is there a similar application like fpaste from fedora for ubuntu?21:29
mrrcpHey is there a way to give applications priority with bandwith?21:29
mrrcpsuch as my terminal over transmission?21:29
bekksdarkangel: what in very detail are you trying to do actually?21:29
daftykinsmrrcp: "nautilus sftp://blah/" maybe21:29
SalahMessaoudHi21:30
mrrcpdaftykins: to make a shortcut on a desktop21:30
pfifogregor3005: pastebinit21:30
SchrodingersScatmrrcp: there is a package for that, not sure how well it works, i think it' was called drip something, trying to remember21:30
gregor3005pfifo: thx i try it21:30
darkangelno... tryin to Install Oblivion Elder scrolls IV under WINE but wont do crap just show's a little message of code's and when u click OK it dont Install21:30
bekksdarkangel: Then check out the winehq website on how to run that game using wine.21:31
SalahMessaoudI have been trying to make my E372 3G dongle to work on Ubuntu 12.04 LTS 32 bit but no luck any idea ?21:31
bekks!winehq | darkangel21:31
ubottudarkangel: WINE is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux - More information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine - Search the !AppDB for application compatibility ratings - Join #winehq for application help - See !virtualizers for running Windows (or another OS) inside Ubuntu21:31
SchrodingersScat!info trickle | mrrcp21:31
ubottumrrcp: trickle (source: trickle): user-space bandwidth shaper. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.07-9build1 (raring), package size 42 kB, installed size 180 kB21:31
darkangelHow do u Debug stuff though?21:32
SchrodingersScat!info gdb | darkangel21:33
ubottudarkangel: gdb (source: gdb): The GNU Debugger. In component main, is optional. Version 7.6~20130417-0ubuntu1 (raring), package size 2211 kB, installed size 5865 kB21:33
bekksdarkangel: if you want to debig windows programs, you have to ask a windows channel though ;)21:33
bekks12*debug21:33
pfifodarkangel: use gdb21:33
darkangelok thx21:33
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mrrcptrickle21:33
mrrcpis that a commonly used app?21:34
Guest9087hello guys.... you know tell me what is the package name of the ubuntu translation to portuguese (brazil)?21:34
SchrodingersScatmrrcp: not sure if I even had it working, saw it suggested here and installed it.21:36
mrrcpdont you have to setup the settings?21:37
mrrcp!wondershape21:37
SchrodingersScat!info wondershape21:37
ubottuPackage wondershape does not exist in raring21:37
mrrcphmm21:37
mrrcpo21:37
mrrcp!info wondershaper21:37
ubottuwondershaper (source: wondershaper): Easy to use traffic shaping script. In component universe, is extra. Version 1.1a-6 (raring), package size 14 kB, installed size 76 kB21:37
mrrcpi wonder which is better21:38
mrrcpany ideas?21:39
daftykinstry them21:40
nurowis there a way that I can make Nautilus search the inner contents files?21:40
nurowor another application I can use?21:40
SchrodingersScatmrrcp: I would like to hear how each of them go for you.21:40
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makotoyo. just did upgrades to stop ubuntu nagging me. it appears to have removed support for my touchpad21:41
makotoany ideas as to how i can get my touchpad back?21:41
darkangelHey does Geany Help on Debugging?21:42
cgtdk!details | makoto21:42
ubottumakoto: Please give us full details. For example: "I have a problem with ..., I'm running Ubuntu version .... When I try to do ..., I get the following output: ..., but I expected it to do ..."21:42
bekksdarkangel: no.21:42
darkangelok21:42
bekksdarkangel: did you visit the wine appdb to check how you can install your game?21:42
makotoit's raring, thats as much as I know21:43
makotoi just want to be able to use my laptop!21:43
darkangelnot yet21:43
makotowhat other details are needed?21:43
cgtdkmakoto: laptop model, kernel version, stuff like that21:43
cgtdkprevious ubuntu version21:43
makotoLinux mak0-HP-Pavilion-dv6-Notebook-PC 3.8.0-31-generic #46-Ubuntu SMP Tue Sep 10 20:03:44 UTC 2013 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux21:44
bekksdarkangel: that would be the very first thing to do instead of "debugging".21:44
makotoprevios version was raring as far as i'm aware- it updated packages21:44
cgtdkoh21:44
cgtdkwhat did you update?21:44
makotonot a clue! it just kept saying "updates are available"21:44
makotoso i clicked ok, entered my password and went off to make a coffee21:44
cgtdkI see21:45
makotoit doesn't keep update logs, does it?21:45
rafinhaaahello guys.... you know tell me what is the package name of the ubuntu translation to portuguese (brazil)?21:46
cgtdk/var/log/dpkg.log21:46
cgtdk@ makoto21:46
makotocgtdk: ha it literally upgraded everything21:47
trismrafinhaaa: you could see which packages you need with: check-language-support -l pt;21:48
cgtdkmakoto: That seems unlikely21:48
makotowell21:48
makotook not literally21:48
makotonot literally at all21:48
Roryrafinhaaa: See also here http://askubuntu.com/questions/149876/how-can-i-install-one-language-by-command-line21:49
makotoregardless, it's upgraded a lot.... http://pastebin.com/Ypq8MjWT21:49
rafinhaaatrism: thank you!21:49
rafinhaaaRory: thanks!21:49
makotonew xorg21:49
makotoi wonder21:49
rafinhaaai will check it21:49
cgtdkmakoto: 'figuratively everything' seems to be a fitting description :-)21:50
makotoah yes21:50
makotoalthough, i doubt i'll remember how to spell figuratively21:51
makotoit doesn't roll off my fingers easily21:51
mrrcpbrb21:51
cgtdkmakoto: what about 'virtually'?21:51
makotohmm21:52
cgtdkhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/6198373/ this is better21:53
mrrcpok here goes the test21:53
mrrcptrickle installed21:53
cgtdkmakoto: try using the previous kernel21:53
cgtdkit should still be there21:54
makotoah ok21:54
delinquentmeis there a command to get a local machines public facing IP?21:54
makotobrb detaching screen and reboooting21:54
delinquentmecommandline21:54
techlordHello everyone, I am new to ubuntu and I am having a issue of connecting to one of my windows PC through the network locations but I can see the rest of them and get in the files of the others21:54
makotowas it shift to get into grub on these newfangled things?21:54
mrrcpSo21:54
mrrcpIt may be working properly21:55
cgtdkdelinquentme: curl http://canhazip.com/21:55
loadid_czechtechlord: you may have file and print sharing turned off on the computer you can't see.  Maybe you need to go into the folder on the windows machine and share the folder you want to see on the network21:55
techlordI have done this on the PC and have checked with my other PC's and I can see it from all other PC's but my ubuntu 1221:56
techlordAs I was thinking the same thing21:57
techlordBut as I said I can access this PC from any other PC in the house21:57
cgtdkmakoto: yes, hold down shift21:57
techlordbut this one21:57
cgtdkbut you have to be quick21:57
techlordand the other 2 PC's connect and can be seen fine21:58
makotocgtdk: hm yep. old kernel's fine21:58
makotoregression ftw21:58
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cgtdkYeah, regression sucks. I'm currently stuck on 3.9.11 on my laptop because newer versions mess up backlight control. :(21:59
cgtdkI should probably stick to the Canonical-maintained 3.8 branch21:59
cgtdkon my laptop21:59
makotoi remember back in 9.04 i had a dell and that worked real nice until i upgraded it one day and it never worked the same since :(22:00
mrrcpWell it seems that it is helping a little22:01
mrrcpas far as it not locking up my ssh22:01
cgtdkSpeaking of kernels, there's usually a 'linux-headers...-all' file in addition to the 'linux-headers/image..._ARCH' files in these directories: http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v3.11.4-saucy/ Is there a reason why there isn't one in that specific directory?22:01
cgtdk9.04/9.10 were wonderful22:01
cgtdkthose were the days22:01
rrmdoes the LTS 12.04 support pae?22:03
bekksrrm: yes.22:03
we6jboHi I got a question22:04
cgtdk!ask | we6jbo22:04
ubottuwe6jbo: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience22:04
we6jboAre there drivers for the NVIDIA Quadro K600 that will work with Ubuntu?22:04
TJ-cgtdk: If you review the build.log you'll see the build didn't succeed22:04
cgtdkTJ-: I see. Thanks22:05
rrmbekks:  i meant non pae processor, sorry22:05
bekksrrm: http://askubuntu.com/questions/117744/how-can-i-install-on-a-non-pae-cpu-error-kernel-requires-features-not-present22:06
TJ-rrm: 12.04 has PAE and non-PAE 32-bit kernels22:08
TJ-rrm: See http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=linux-image&searchon=names&suite=precise-updates&section=all22:09
rrmTJ-:  thanks man22:09
nurowis there a way that I can make Nautilus search the inner contents files?22:09
nurowor another application I can use?22:09
loadid_czechyou mean search for a text string inside a document nurow?22:10
nurowyep22:10
nurow<-- web developer22:11
loadid_czechmaybe searchmonkey22:11
wyldenurow: gedit may do that. If not natively using a plugin perhaps22:11
TJ-nurow: That's what "grep" is for22:12
TJ-nurow: For non-text (binary) files you can use "strings $FILE | grep 'FIND_THIS'"22:13
DthZigI messed up my bluetooth stack trying to get a remote controler working22:13
loadid_czechor gnome-search-tool nurow22:13
macspleananyone here pretty good with libreofffice22:13
mrrcphmm22:14
DthZigI managed to not get it working again by installing blueman, I can pair stuff but no keyboard or gives output out22:14
nurowthanks for all the suggests guys22:14
makotocgtdk: 9.04/.10 wasn't quite the days for me- i had to do thta updgrade as there was some silly configuation in .04 that caused usb 3g modems to do strange things on plugging them in.22:14
loadid_czechthe answer to that question is irrelevant macsplean, what are you trying to accomplish?22:15
ender-adammacsplean: i am ok with keyboard shortcuts so you can ask me about getting around libre22:15
DthZigI am wondering what packages I can install to reinstall the standard bluetooth stack on ubuntu 13.0422:16
macspleani am trying to change tab functionality to accomplish 2 things. First, when using tables in writer, I want the tab to indent, not move to the next table cell. Second, I want to change the number of spaces that tab moves forward by22:16
raul_phey guys, how can i make sure php ( running as php-fpm as USER , not apache ) can't read outside /home/USER ?22:16
loadid_czechi would imagine the would take some pretty serious editing of the core files itself, tab moving one cell to the right is kind of universal macsplean22:17
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loadid_czechDthZig: what did you do to mess it up in the first place22:18
wylderaul_p: make a test file outside /home/$USER and use a php script to try and read it?22:18
bekksmacsplean: by default, tab inserts a tab, no whitespaces. That configurable in the settings.22:18
raul_pwylde: /etc/passwd :)22:18
raul_pi'm trying to secure the shit out of my lamp22:18
ender-adammacsplean: on openoffice it was arrow to move cell-to-cell not tab, tab was indent22:18
raul_pbut, grr, i just uploaded a php shell and i can run anything22:18
IdleOnekeep the language clean please22:19
macspleanloadid_czech: ok, well, in that case, can you think of anything I can do to give myself the functionality of pressing a button to insert multiple spaces . I am writing code and it is annoying to write multiple spaces all the time22:19
DthZigI first tried to install an old version of bluez with a patch, then that didn't make the remote controller work better, I tried to get back to where I started, but I clearly have installed the wrong bluetooth stack22:19
macspleanender-adam: thanks I may switch over to that22:19
DthZigI am on blueman something now22:19
bekksraul_p: then disallow the usage of system functions, etc. first.22:19
raul_pi'm thinking now to add the system users ( that will have vhosts ) to a group, but not sure what to do with that group to restrict it's access22:19
raul_pbekks: not really, as wordpress relies on those :(22:19
raul_pand plus, i can't disable file_get_contents :)22:19
bekksraul_p: then its pretty hopeless.22:19
raul_por fopen22:19
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raul_pwell, apparmor maybe can help, or some ACL's22:20
TJ-raul_p: It depends what user account the PHP script us running as, which probably depends on the httpd process22:20
raul_pbut i'm new to that ...22:20
raul_pTJ-: the php runs as the user22:20
raul_pTJ-: httpd runs as www-data22:20
TJ-raul_p: using suexec ?22:20
loadid_czechmacsplean: looks like bekks may know how to change that in the configuration settings22:20
raul_pworker + fastcgi + php-fpm22:21
macspleanbekks: do you know how to configure libreoffice writer so that tab indents and doesn22:22
macspleanbekks: doesn't change between table cells22:22
bekksmacsplean: No, I dont know that. I just know that its configurable wether tab (in writer) inserts tabs or spaces.22:22
raul_pdoes any of you have experience with acl's or apparmor ?22:22
ender-adammacsplean: don't, openoffice is the old, try libre 3.522:23
TJ-raul_p: Ahh OK, in which case you need to add "open_basedir = ..." to the php.ini for that user's fastcgi config22:23
raul_pdid that22:23
raul_pbut i still can read outside22:23
raul_popen_basedir/home/test1/www/ … but fopen ( /etc/passwd ) works with no problem :)22:25
macspleanender-adam: could you recommend me a method to install 3.5 if I am currently running 4?22:25
DthZigAnyone know what packages I can install to get the standard bluetooth setup on 13.04?22:25
loadid_czechmaybe bluez DthZig?22:26
loadid_czechapt-get remove --purge bluez && apt-get install bluez22:26
DthZigOkay will try22:26
raul_pTJ-: /usr/bin/whoami => test122:27
raul_pso i'm running as user22:27
raul_pso i really think i need to make the system to not let users in certain group to do anything22:27
TJ-raul_p: Have you made a temporary info.php file in that domain with "<?php phpinfo() ?>" ? Read that from a browser to check that the settings you think are set, actually are.22:29
raul_pyes they are22:29
raul_pplus exec whoami :)22:29
F41LOk... having a bit of trouble with a package. I want to install proftpd with mysql support, but the package proftpd-mod-mysql doesn't have mod_sfto_sql.c22:30
F41LIs there a package in the repo that just has ALL of the modules included, and can be configured as needed?22:30
F41Lmod_sftp_sql.c typo22:31
bekksF41L: There is no such package.22:31
F41LSo... only choice I have is to not use the ubuntu repo and compile from source?22:31
F41Llovely22:32
cvtsxsomeone want to give me some movie suggestions?22:32
MonkeyDustcvtsx  wrong channel22:32
SchrodingersScatcvtsx: do a remake of citizen kane22:32
DthZigYes that makes sense :) They already did a remake of Wrath of Khan and that was a success :)22:33
JdpenseakaJoshDPhmm22:36
F41LSo how would I take proftpd-dev package and compile it with ALL modules included?22:36
oilerff.com22:36
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sam113101HELP22:38
JdpenseakaJoshDPwow alot of ppl are quiting :P22:38
sam113101rhythmbox doesn't work22:38
MonkeyDust!details | sam11310122:39
ubottusam113101: Please give us full details. For example: "I have a problem with ..., I'm running Ubuntu version .... When I try to do ..., I get the following output: ..., but I expected it to do ..."22:39
techlordI have double checked and the PC I am trying to access has file sharing setup and can access it from other PC's but not this one, but I can get to my other PC's any ideas?22:39
sam113101MonkeyDust: I try to open it but nothing happens22:39
basil_Hi I upgraded to Ubuntu12.04 in the last fortnight. For the first time, trying to access the internet, and it tells me that a DNS lookup failed. I'm just a home user with a router - don't recall messing with DNS settings previously. May I please get any advice?22:40
techlordI keep getting unable to mount and failed to retieve share list22:40
shomonhi, how do you mount an hfsplus disk so it's writable?22:41
shomonit's a wd elements22:41
oilerfflike this22:41
shomonexternal22:41
shomonI tried sudo mount -thfsplus /dev/sdb2 /media/hfsdrive22:42
seoNinjaWarriori'm hoping someone can help, I'm using rsnapshot and it seems to complete successfully and yet do nothing http://pastebin.com/HmrGjrPL - that has my config, the output to the screen, and output to log file. I know this is ubuntu channel but I figured someone here would know how to fix this. I'm 2 hours in and about to pull out the rest of my hair22:44
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oilerffThe asking to answering ratio is imbalanced.22:46
sam113101I know, right?22:47
rypervencheFree is free.22:47
techlordIt is a free open room it happens LOL22:47
txt23Is there a way to get the feel of Elemtry OS while still using Ubuntu?22:48
loahello, what meen "The following packages have been kept back" when i do upgrade http://pastebin.com/pni82bNu22:48
rypervencheloa: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade22:49
techlordI have double checked and the PC I am trying to access has file sharing setup and can access it from other PC's but not this one, but I can get to my other PC's any ideas?22:50
techlordI keep getting unable to mount and failed to retieve share list22:50
purpleleaftechloard - is it nfs?22:52
techlordYes22:52
oilerfftechlord, don't PM me please22:53
techlordand I have accessed it before when I was using 1022:53
techlordsoor22:53
techlordsorry22:53
oilerffmy client said you attempted to PM me, but I can't see what you said so why don't you just ask me here22:53
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techlordSorry, still learning irc chat22:54
zonedi'm a total noob, and trying to reformat a drive. i don't know if it's the way i'm mounting it, or how i'm creating my partitions, or what.... but it keeps registering my 750GB drive as 134MB. anyone care to walk me through this? im pulling my hair out22:54
techlordI was just looking for help with my connecting to a PC on my network22:54
techlordI can get to all my other pc's but one22:55
techlordand it is killing me LOL22:55
daftykinstechlord: whats being shared by what method between what OSs?22:55
purpleleafwhat is in /etc/exports on the nfs server machine?22:55
oilerffI'm not proficient in Ubuntu, but generally you can get a better answer by posting your question on the channel than by PMing some random person22:55
purpleleafIf the other PC's can access, then is the ip/network/name/whatever not allows in /etc/exports?22:55
techlordPurpleleaf: I am getting this error when I go to the network folder22:56
MonkeyDustzoned  what's the output of    df -h ? use pastebin to show it to the channel22:56
techlordOh I see22:56
sealbhachzoned: look at how it sees it in Gparted, the partition editor. Be careful not to change anything, just look for now22:56
techlordSorry for my ignorance I can not even find how to connect with IP LOL22:56
basil_thanks guys....I'll try a little later22:57
zonedMonkeyDust: i just deleted the only partition and rebooted. so how should i mount it now? mount -t reiserfs /dev/disk/by-id/<the id> will make df -h show it as 134MB22:57
demsadCan someone help me? I use openvpn service vpnbook. I've configured everything the same as in the howto. It works fine, but i've got a problem. I can't close vpn connection. When i close terminal vpn still works. VPN closes only after system's restart. How can i close vpn?22:58
MonkeyDustzoned  not sure if reiserfs works well with ubuntu22:58
TJ-demsad: Is the openvpn client session defined as a system service, in "/etc/openvpn/" ?22:59
zonedits actually an unraid server, but #unraid is dead.... ubuntu is the only other linux exp i have so i thought i'd just come here :-/22:59
kartoffelfreundhello everybody... is someone fit in server maintenance? i have a little issue with my raspberryPI,a backup and a read only system23:00
MonkeyDustzoned  tip: there's also #ubuntu-server23:00
kartoffelfreundthanks for the hint... hope theyÄll help raspbian-users too ;)23:01
TJ-zoned: If the drive has no partitions defined you cannot mount it. You should create a new partition table with one or more partitions that use up the entire space on the drive, then use "mkfs.$FILESYSTEM_TYPE ... /dev/sdXY" to create the file-system in partition Y on drive X. *then* you can mount the file-system in /dev/sdXY23:02
demsad<TJ->There is a folder 'openvpn" in /etc. Does it mean that openvpn client session defines as a system service?23:02
zonedTJ-: how can i create a partition if its not mounted?23:03
dirdirdirI've a problem with my internet connection, can someone pls help me?23:03
zonedfdisk?23:03
TJ-demsad: No, I was asking if you'd installed the client session config file to that location. If you did, that would imply it is a system session and would be expected to come up at boot-time and close at shutdown23:03
MonkeyDustzoned  create a partition, then mount that partition in a folder23:03
TJ-zoned: You do not partition a file-system, you partition a raw device. After partitioning you format each partition with a file-system, and then mount those file-systems23:04
dirdirdirHello, can somebody help me?23:04
bobby_hello23:05
oilerffNo one can help you! Mwahahaha23:05
dirdirdirHi, booby_. I've a problem with my internet conection23:05
dirdirdirOh my... :( :p23:05
sealbhachWho is boss, you or computer? Impose your will on it!23:05
demsad<TJ->No, i haven't installed the client session config file23:05
loarypervenche, thx, so why this happens?23:05
loarypervenche, i don't upgrade totally my distro?23:05
dirdirdirProblem is, my wifi is working, and i can see my internet connection, but i can't click it.23:05
TJ-demsad: OK... how did you define the client session? Using NetworkManager from the nm-applet GUI on the desktop?23:06
dirdirdirI've no access to my internet connection, which is laying there ahead, laughing at me.23:06
sealbhachdirdirdir, have you checked all available drivers have been installed?23:06
demsad<TJ-> I write in terminal: openvpn --config vpnbook-euro1-udp25000.ovpn23:07
dirdirdirsealbhach, I checked my "additional drivers" at "software &..." Is that enough?23:07
TJ-demsad: Ahh OK. In which case you have started an openvpn process which continues running in the background. You'll need to send it the TERM signal using something like this: "sudo kill -TERM $(pidof openvpn)"23:08
zonedTJ-: ok, fdisk -l shows my disk as 750G - so now what should i do?23:09
javanichello all23:09
reisio'lo javanic23:09
TJ-zoned: Create a partition table with at least one (n)ew partition, and (w)rite it to disk, then "mkfs.$FILESYSTEM_TYPE ..." the new partition23:10
sealbhachdirdirdir: it's best you have a wired ethernet connection, to make sure you can download any wireless drivers that might be needed23:10
janhi23:10
jani installed ubuntu 13.0423:10
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MonkeyDust!partition | zoned take a look this to get familiar with partitioning23:11
ubottuzoned take a look this to get familiar with partitioning: For help with partitioning a new install see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PartitioningSchemes l - For partitioning programs see !GParted, or !PartitionManager (!Kubuntu 9.04 and up) - Other partitioning topics include !fstab !home and !swap23:11
Guest38481i used a new ssd and installed the os on a lvm partiton23:11
Guest38481how can i enable hibernate?23:11
dirdirdirSealbhach: I do have one. How do i search them? Do I have to search for them one by one manually?23:11
Guest38481and create a swap partiton23:11
zonedokay, i've got one primary partition on the disk, wrote it. where do i run mkfs?23:12
javanicanyone ever have any issues with an install on a laptop?23:12
sealbhachThere should be something in "Hardware Drivers" that will fetch the driver for you, just make sure you select it by clicking on it23:12
bezabanjavanic: it can happen yes23:12
oilerffjavanic, not me23:13
zonedmkfs /dev/sdX ?23:13
Tylertwojavanic: I've had installs work well on 2 different laptops23:13
javanichow do you make it red when you talk directly to me?23:13
sealbhachdirdirdir: Unless you have a very weird or rare wireless card, it should be easy to get it working23:13
bezabanjavanic: it's your client highlighting your name23:13
bezabannoone else sees that :)23:13
javanici installed it and it won't update.. i have a feeling it has something to do with a driver. but i'm not sure23:14
javanicthe wifi also doesn't seem to work23:14
javanicrunning slow23:14
dirdirdirSealchach: Well, i got my card supposedly working, do you think it isn't alredy giving me it's full service? (anyway, i'm doing as you have told me first)23:14
zonedi did "mkfs -t reiserfs /dev/sdc0" and got "Stat of the device '/dev/sdc0' failed"23:15
demsad<TJ->Thank you! It works fine.23:15
TJ-zoned: partition numbers start at 1 :)23:15
TJ-zoned: check with "ls /dev/sdc*"23:15
sealbhachdirdirdir: You might have to reboot to get it fully loaded and working the first time23:16
dirdirdirSealbhach: damn, now that's something i really don't know how to do.23:17
mrrcptrickle did not work :(23:18
javanicanyone know what would cause a new install to not want to update?23:19
mrrcpjavanic: ?23:19
mrrcpmore details?23:19
geniijavanic: Perhaps it was not connected to a network during install and so has only the contents of the install CD in it's sources.list23:19
zonedTJ-: got it! thanks dude23:19
javanicit wasn't connected to the internet during install.. but it is now, and i even booted from the install disk and didn't do anyting. just froze up23:20
javanicgenii: is there any way to re install from the cd, i booted from it again and it didn't do anyting but freeze up23:22
oilerffreinstall then23:22
sealbhachjavanic: have you enough space on the disk to download and install updates?23:23
javanicsealbhach: yes, the hard drive was wiped prior to this install23:23
javanic<sealbhach> i don't mind re installing.. it would probably be easier, but when i tried it just froze up on me23:24
javanic<sealbhach> with network connected that it23:25
javanicis*23:25
sealbhachDon't know, must be a network problem, maybe you can select a different server during the install process?23:26
javanic<sealbhach> i wasn't connected to a network during the install process23:26
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owdjaodopjHow do I prevent wifi from auto connecting after signing in + if a network goes down... it's automatically connecting to other networks\reconnecting... errrrr23:28
xyzoneowdjaodopj, delete those other networks23:29
owdjaodopj..................23:29
xyzonefrom network manager configs23:29
xyzoneor uncheck the 'connect automatically' box23:30
udonI found the "Unity Tweak Tool." Is that basically the only option to configure Unity?23:33
reisioprimary GUI option, AFAIK23:34
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MonkeyDustudon  take a look at dconf-editor, inside it, use ctrl-f to look for unity23:36
udonwill do, thanks MonkeyDust23:36
TahdasHi23:50
TahdasCan you see this?23:50
DwarfYes.23:50
mrrcp[yes23:50
TahdasOk23:50
DwarfAre you an alien?23:50
mrrcpwhats up23:50
TahdasSo i have tow options to boot from23:50
mrrcpanyone use CT23:50
TahdasUefi sandisk cruzer etc23:50
TahdasOr the same thing whiteout uefi n front of it23:51
TahdasYes I a,23:51
mrrcptc23:51
TahdasI am an alien23:51
Dwarfkk23:51
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AnAlienHello can u see me23:56
DwarfYes.23:56
AnAlienOk23:56
AnAlien  23:56
mrrcp?23:56
cgtdk!offtopic23:56
ubottu#ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!23:56
mrrcpwat23:56
AnAlienOk I have two boot options23:56
loasometimes i see running such command from nobody find / -ignore_readdir_race ( ~t/mount$\) ) -prune -o -print023:57
mrrcp!offtopic | cgtdk23:57
ubottucgtdk: please see above23:57
loawhat is it?23:57
AnAlienOne is uefi and the other is not23:57
loait is making really many ios23:57
reisioloa: it's searching your entire FS for files23:57
loaand for what?23:57
AnAlienWell three options one is windows23:57
mrrcp!uefi23:57
ubottuUEFI is a specification that defines a software interface between an operating system and platform firmware, it is meant as a replacement for the BIOS. For information on how to set up and install Ubuntu and its derivatives on UEFI machines please read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI23:57
AnAlienIm trying to boot off a USB drive23:57
reisioloa: for everything, it looks like23:58
reisioloa: it's making a list of every file23:58
reisioloa: minus the readdir stuff23:58
loalooks like like it is for mlocate23:58
reisioah, quite possible23:58
loareisio, ^^23:58
reisiopgrep -l updatedb23:58
AnAlienSo i should pick the uefi option?23:58
reisiosudo crontab -l | grep -i update23:58
reisioAnAlien: 'not'?23:59
reisioit says 'not'?23:59
AnAlienUEFI: sandisk cruzer glide 1.2623:59
AnAlienOr sandisk cruzer guide 1.2623:59
reisioAnAlien: interesting23:59
AnAlienNot? Huh?23:59

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