[00:00] <doug__> Arch
[00:00] <PinkSwing> I have twin monitors with the larger of the two on the left. I've set the primary monitor to the one on the right as I use the larger monitor on the left for full screen things like a remote desktop session or watching video. But new windows always appear on the larger, secondary monitor on the left - often underneath whatever is fullscreen. I am trying to change this in CompizConfig Settings Manager but it doesn't seem to make any difference. Any ideas
[00:00] <blz> pmatulis_, I'm looking at the manpage... should my command just be something like `pvcreate /dev/sdb` ?
[00:02] <_-Frustat3d-_> Disk Utility crashes on 12.04 when trying to create ANY partition.
[00:02] <pmatulis_> blz: better describe you situation, what do you want to achieve?
[00:03] <pmatulis_> blz: add space to an existing logical volume?
[00:03] <blz> pmatulis_, I just set up a fresh server install with a LVM.  There is one volume group and one physical volume.  I just now added a fresh, unformatted drive, which I would like to add to the existing volume group
[00:04] <wokko> just a test for new irssi theme can u hear me
[00:04] <blz> pmatulis_, I just realized the last part of my description was a bit confusing ^^.  I physically inserted a new, unformatted HDD into the case.  I'd like to extend the existing logical volume with that new HDD
[00:04] <syntroPi> wokko, roger roger
[00:04] <wokko> syntroPi: cheers
[00:04] <blz> pmatulis_, as I understand the pvcreate manpage, the command should just be `sudo pvcreate /dev/sdb`.  Is that correct or am I misunderstanding something?
[00:05] <pmatulis_> blz: ① make the new drive (say /dev/sdb) a physical volume, or used fdisk to make a partition (say /dev/sda1), i usually do the latter
[00:05] <pmatulis_> blz: correction:
[00:05] <pmatulis_> blz: ① make the new drive (say /dev/sdb) a physical volume, or use fdisk to make a partition (say /dev/sdb1), i usually do the latter
[00:06] <blz> pmatulis_, is there any real difference between those two options?  Will the volume perform differently?
[00:06] <pmatulis_> blz: no
[00:06]  * Dr_Willis looks to see where his ①  key is at..
[00:06] <pmatulis_> blz: ② then extend your volume group with 'vgextend' command
[00:07] <pmatulis_> blz: ③ then extend your logical volume with 'lvextend' command
[00:07] <blz> pmatulis_, okay cool.  As for step  ① (yay, unicode!) which command should I use to make a /dev/sdb1 partition.  The usual fdisk?
[00:08] <pmatulis_> blz: ④ then unmount the existing logical volume
[00:08] <pmatulis_> blz: ⑤ then perform a file system check with something like 'e2fsck'
[00:09] <blz> pmatulis_, ok.  Should I be using fdisk for step 1?
[00:09] <blz> I ask because I'm getting a dire warning about my volume being too large for the DOS partition table format
[00:10] <blz> and I'm a bit unsure of how to proceed
[00:10] <pmatulis_> ah, how big is the drive?
[00:10] <blz> pmatulis_, 3 TB
[00:11] <syntroPi> blz afaik mbr is only for something below 2 TB
[00:11] <syntroPi> you need gpt maybe?
[00:11] <syntroPi> use parted
[00:11] <pmatulis_> blz: use gdisk
[00:11] <syntroPi> even better
[00:12] <pmatulis_> blz: 6. extend your file system with the appropriate tool.  you haven't said what f/s format you're using
[00:13] <pmatulis_> blz: 7. mount the logical volume
[00:15] <dezine> Hey everyone. I have a Samsung Chromebook, with Ubuntu installed on it. I'm just wondering if there's anyway to install Chrome on it, since it's an ARM processor I can't just use the i386 one. Thanks.
[00:18] <gmachine_24> Hi. I'm on an Ubuntu 12.04LTS desktop that I use as a music server - and I'd like to be able to get access to it from my other computers - Linux and Windows. Samba is installed and I can stream music - but cannot connect remotely or even, on Windows machines, see that files are being shared.
[00:18] <ShadowBlaze18> are you allowed to use Ubuntu's trademarks to label a pc that is being sold that has Ubuntu on it?
[00:18] <gmachine_24> sshserver and client are also installed
[00:18] <repudiate> I don't think kTouch installed properly Dr_Willis
[00:19] <repudiate> It's missing menus on the top.
[00:19] <gmachine_24> ShadowBlaze18: I think so but if you want to legal skinny perhaps contact Canonical
[00:19] <repudiate> Do I have to dl a KDE?!
[00:19] <gmachine_24> ShadowBlaze18: they used to give away stick-ons and stuff
[00:20] <repudiate> Dr_Willis: nevermind
[00:20] <repudiate> got it
[00:21] <wxl> hey folks. autofs question: i have a sshfs set up to mount to /mnt. i'm trying to script changing this to /mnt/autofs. so i turn the service off, change auto.master, turn the service back on, and everything is good. only problem: i can't touch /mnt until i reboot. wtf?
[00:25] <PinkSwing> I have twin monitors. New windows and notifications always appear on the left monitor despite the fact that I have the right monitor set as the primary monitor. How can I change this?
[00:25] <daftykins> PinkSwing: honest advice? swap graphics outputs
[00:26] <PinkSwing> daftykins: I cant do that. One is HDMI and the other is VGA
[00:27] <jaha> Can anyone help me get upstart user sessions/jobs working on 13.04 server
[00:27] <jaha> ive also installed the lubuntu-core desktop
[00:27] <daftykins> PinkSwing: ah :/
[00:28] <ShadowBlaze18> tahnk you gmachine_24
[00:28] <ShadowBlaze18> *thank
[00:30] <Dr_Willis> repudiate:  overlooked the Unity Global menus ;) they can hide at the top ;P
[00:31] <repudiate> yepp
[00:31] <Dr_Willis> i thought upstart had to habve user sessions compiled in as an option. and tht was not a default option (at least it dident used to be)
[00:31] <Dr_Willis> The upstart cookbook mentioned user sessions.
[00:32] <Dr_Willis> or user 'jobs' i guess is the proper ter,
[00:32] <Dr_Willis> term
[00:33] <Dr_Willis> Hmm. 13.10 has a ~/.config/upstart/   wonder if that means the feature is now enabled by default on 13.10
[00:34] <bigbadben> Why is html5 DRM a bad thing
[00:34] <julian-delphiki> Dr_Willis, whenever i hear "cookbook" I just thing Chef
[00:35] <Dr_Willis> bigbadben:  drm is a bad thing.
[00:35] <julian-delphiki> bigbadben, that's not a question for this channel.
[00:35] <Dr_Willis> bigbadben:  because html5 viddeo that works on windows.. may not work on linux, or my Pi. or my android.. if the drm is not supported.
[00:35] <jaha> Dr_Willis: i followed the instructions to enable the "tech preview" of user sessions by uncommenting #ubuntu in /etc/upstart-xesseions, restrated and nothing changed
[00:36] <Dr_Willis> jaha:  ive never used the feature. ive only rember reading about it in the docs.
[00:36] <jaha> Dr_Willis: thought maybe im missing something since I didnt install the full ubuntu desktop
[00:36] <jaha> gotcha, thanks
[00:36] <ShadowBlaze18> gmachine_24, if you were selling the hardware and you just label the pc as having Ubuntu do you think that still counts as merchandising purposes?
[00:36] <blz> syntroPi, pmatulis_ , sorry my internet crapped out =/
[00:36] <bigbadben> julian-delphiki, but ubuntu is open source and wouldn't it be considered bad for open source, then also bad for ubuntu
[00:37] <julian-delphiki> bigbadben, this is an ubuntu support channel
[00:37] <blz> pmatulis_, do I need to mount the newly created /dev/sdb1 partition before running vgextend?
[00:37] <julian-delphiki> blz, no
[00:37] <pmatulis_> blz: follow my steps
[00:40] <blz> pmatulis_, Okay, I'm just not very clear on step 4.  You said I should unmount the existing logical volume, but my google-fu is failing me.  What command should I use for that?
[00:40] <rastim> hiii, , ,
[00:40] <raven> Hey guys
[00:41] <rastim> hiii, ,  , i'm rastim ,
[00:41] <pmatulis_> blz: well, what is the logical volume's path? 'sudo lvscan'
[00:41] <julian-delphiki> blz, is it your root volume?
[00:41] <julian-delphiki> are we just resizing and LVM
[00:41] <julian-delphiki> or what
[00:41] <julian-delphiki> (/me does that about once a month)
[00:41] <blz> julian-delphiki, yes
[00:41] <raven> Does anyone know how to help me with installing windows alongside an already existing linux partition?
[00:42] <blz> julian-delphiki, yeah I'm trying to add a new disk (physical volume) to my lvm
[00:42] <julian-delphiki> ah okay
[00:42] <julian-delphiki> so did you pvcreate on the new drive?
[00:42] <blz> julian-delphiki, so I added a partition using gdisk and then formatted it as ext4 with mkfs.ext4 from e2fsutils
[00:43] <blz> then I did a pvextend /dev/sdb
[00:43] <rastim> help me for how instaling modem in ubuntu 12.04 ??
[00:43] <pmatulis_> blz: i don't remember saying to format your disk
[00:43] <blz> sorry, vgextend
[00:43] <blz> pmatulis_, hmm that might explain my troubles ...
[00:43] <julian-delphiki> blz, okay, so, now when you vgdisplay you should see that your volume group has more extents now
[00:43] <raven> Windows setup says it can't install to the unallocated space even when I format it NTFS
[00:44] <pmatulis_> blz: anyway, good luck.  looks like julian-delphiki will help you
[00:44] <blz> pmatulis_, thanks for your help!  sorry for being dense!
[00:44] <julian-delphiki> pmatulis_, yeah I will.
[00:44] <blz> julian-delphiki, =)
[00:44] <PsyMar> raven: Do you have 4 partitions on the drive already?
[00:44] <blz> julian-delphiki, okay so, it's probably best we start over since I evidently did something wrong.  Should I pastebin vgdisplay?
[00:45] <julian-delphiki> sure
[00:45] <blz> julian-delphiki, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6194645/
[00:45] <raven> PsyMar, I've got Mint, Ubuntu, swap space, and unallocated
[00:45] <wonderfulme> I somewhat fucked up
[00:45] <PsyMar> raven: bootloader?
[00:45] <daftykins> raven: sounds like you're trying to install when you've already got too many primary partitions and you're attempting to put Windows into a logical one
[00:45] <julian-delphiki> alright, blz, so far so good. You want to add all of that disk to your existing LVM yeah?
[00:45] <daftykins> raven: can you pastebin/screenshot your partition setup?
[00:46] <blz> julian-delphiki, yep! the whole thing
[00:46] <julian-delphiki> blz, do you know what the name of your LVM is?
[00:46] <raven> daftykins can you explain to me the difference between a logical and a primary? Give me a moment let me take a picture of my machine with my phone
[00:46] <wonderfulme> is there an IRCOP here?
[00:46] <fancyfetus> guys, I'm getting errors left and right from ubuntu.
[00:46] <blz> julian-delphiki, should be monolith-vg.  I don't think I have any others
[00:46] <fancyfetus> It's getting pretty hard to live with at this point.
[00:46] <blz> julian-delphiki, this is an lvm that I set up with the installer, btw
[00:47] <blz> So I think it named my LVM for me based on the hostname (monolith)
[00:47] <wonderfulme> would they PLEASE cycle #Russian
[00:47] <daftykins> raven: it'd need to be more detail than Windows setup will provide, so it'd ideally be from fdisk on Linux or gparted
[00:47] <wonderfulme> which is invite only due to an asshole
[00:47] <PsyMar> fancyfetus: I had that problem, I was running 32-bit ubuntu on a 64-bit machine was probably be the problem
[00:47] <wonderfulme> I only need one nickname.
[00:47] <IdleOne> !language | wonderfulme
[00:47] <julian-delphiki> blz, okay, so, run `lvextend -l+715408 /dev/mapper/monolith-vg`
[00:47] <fancyfetus> PsyMar, nope, amd64 on a 64 bit system.
[00:47] <fancyfetus> My battery basically stopped functioning with ubuntu, I get xorg errors constantly, I can't even switch my graphics card problems
[00:47] <wonderfulme> badhole, you win.
[00:47] <raven> daftykins i used gparted to reduce the size of my ubuntu partition and make unallocated space
[00:48] <daftykins> ok
[00:48] <fancyfetus> I get I can't even switch my graphics card drivers*
[00:48] <blz> julian-delphiki, I'm getting "Volume group monolith not found"
[00:48] <blz> I think the dash is throwing it off...
[00:48] <daftykins> raven: upping a screen of that would be good
[00:48] <julian-delphiki> blz, okay, do an lvdisplay then
[00:48] <julian-delphiki> and pastebin it
[00:48] <fancyfetus> And apparently my computer is full of packages with errors in them.
[00:48] <raven> daftykins give me a moment stay tuned I'm waiting for windows setup to load again (takes forever) and I'll show you what it sees
[00:48] <gmachine_24> ShadowBlaze18: I don't see how Canonical would care if you attach an Ubuntu sticker to a computer you're selling but if there's any potential legal problem just contact them. If you're selling a LOT of computers then you might have to add a sticker
[00:48] <fancyfetus> sudo apt-get install -f encounters errors when I try to run it.
[00:48] <PsyMar> anyway, I am trying to use openDNS under Ubuntu 12.04, but it seems to be ignoring my dns settings and using my ISP's dns -- can someone help me figure out what I'm doing wrong?
[00:48] <daftykins> raven: like i say, windows setup doesn't provide enough partition information
[00:49] <blz> julian-delphiki, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6194659/
[00:49] <julian-delphiki> fancyfetus, sounds like you should reinstall assuming your data isnt too precious
[00:49] <fancyfetus> julian-delphiki, I reinstalled a few times, actually.
[00:49] <gmachine_24> PsyMar: when you say "it" what are you referring to?
[00:49] <fancyfetus> not recently.
[00:49] <wonderfulme> you do realize that this whole "linux on a desktop" pipe dream is just that, do you?
[00:49] <PsyMar> Firefox.
[00:49] <blz> fancyfetus, -f is the `fail` flag.  It's telling apt-fast to fail
[00:49] <julian-delphiki> blz, ah, ok. `lvextend -l+715408 /dev/monolith-vg/root`
[00:49]  * blz ducks :D
[00:49] <julian-delphiki> wonderfulme, stop
[00:49] <Dr_Willis> linux basically is on all my desktops.
[00:50] <blz> fancyfetus, that was a joke, btw =)
[00:50] <gmachine_24> PsyMar: well you change your dns settings in your router
[00:50] <wonderfulme> julian-delphiki I need someone to restore her nickname
[00:50] <ShadowBlaze18> gmachine_24, I might contact them, but I'm probably being paranoid. I'm guessing it's for large companies and they just don't want you mis-representing Ubuntu
[00:50] <fancyfetus> blz, I believed you for a second :P
[00:50] <wonderfulme> so I'm going to be an ass
[00:50] <gmachine_24> via a browser
[00:50] <julian-delphiki> wonderfulme, this is the ubuntu channel, nothing to do with freenode.
[00:50] <PsyMar> gmachine: not under network connections?
[00:50] <blz> wonderfulme, enjoy bantown
[00:50] <wonderfulme> julian-delphiki stop. what?
[00:50] <gmachine_24> PsyMar: no. on you rbrowser
[00:50] <gmachine_24> er, router
[00:50] <gmachine_24> sorry
[00:50] <julian-delphiki> wonderfulme, with your unrelated-to-ubuntu-support talk
[00:50] <wonderfulme> wonderfulme using hitchcock.freenode.net Sofia, BG, EU
[00:50] <PsyMar> I was hoping to change it for just my computer, but ok, thanks
[00:50] <ShadowBlaze18> gmachine_24, and I mean't just adding a sign in public view that says it comes with Ubuntu
[00:50] <blz> julian-delphiki, okay I'm getting "Logical volume root successfully resized"  Sounds like a win =)
[00:51] <gmachine_24> PsyMar: so you do http://192.168.x.x and log in to the router and find the settings, etc.
[00:51] <fancyfetus> So is there anything I can try to do before reinstalling and losing everything?
[00:51] <PsyMar> right
[00:51] <julian-delphiki> blz, yep, now comes the long part! we need to resize your partition.
[00:51] <wonderfulme> julian-delphiki I'm not sure what's to talk about. it works. yay.
[00:51] <blz> julian-delphiki, I'm all ears
[00:51] <PsyMar> fancyfetus: you could try to get your files off onto a thumbdrive?
[00:51] <gmachine_24> ShawdowBlaze18: as I said, I can't imagine that they care but just email them; I'm sure they're happy to answer quickly
[00:51] <fancyfetus> PsyMar, I mean are there any other solutions.
[00:52] <cvtsx> Hello
[00:52] <julian-delphiki> blz, "resize2fs /dev/monolith-vg/root" in one terminal. In another terminal run "watch -n0 df -h"
[00:52] <wonderfulme> slackware 3.2 back in 96 used to work, too. big deal.
[00:52] <julian-delphiki> wonderfulme, come on, this is a channel for helping people with ubuntu.
[00:52] <fancyfetus> If i'm going to install, I'll reinstall windows.
[00:52] <julian-delphiki> you're being less than useful
[00:52] <PsyMar> wonderfulme, this is not a channel for asking for IRCop help
[00:52] <gmachine_24> fancyfetus, what version of ubuntu are you running?
[00:53] <wonderfulme> julian-delphiki redirect them to Windows 8.0
[00:53] <fancyfetus> 13.04
[00:53] <cvtsx> 12.04
[00:53] <blz> julian-delphiki, cool.  What's this `watch` sorcery?  I've never seen that
[00:53] <julian-delphiki> wonderfulme, no thanks, now please leave.
[00:53] <julian-delphiki> blz, it repeatedly runs a command and displays the output
[00:53] <julian-delphiki> :)
[00:53] <gmachine_24> fancyfetus - if you have files you want to save to you can boot from a live CD and then copy whatever to a thumb drive
[00:53] <cvtsx> Anyone ever try to run visual studio in wine?
[00:53] <ShadowBlaze18> alright, thank you gmachine_24
[00:53] <blz> julian-delphiki, very cool =)  It also turns out the long part was about 6 seconds long... one of the benefits of a fresh install
[00:54] <julian-delphiki> blz, you should now see the 'free space' growing on your watch screen
[00:54] <julian-delphiki> ah nice.
[00:54] <gmachine_24> fancyfetus: have you checked your hard drive for errors? is it a new hd?
[00:54] <wonderfulme> julian-delphiki no really, you've got yourselves a bunch of "I want my linux" degenerates. then their parents come back and see the clusterfuck
[00:54] <gmachine_24> ShadowBlaze18: :-)
[00:54] <julian-delphiki> wonderfulme, sorry, my parents live at their house, not mine.
[00:54] <ShadowBlaze18> gmachine_24, btw, is there an email form where I don't have to provide a phone number?
[00:54] <fancyfetus> gmachine_24, Old hard drive in an old laptop
[00:54] <fancyfetus> You know what?
[00:54] <cvtsx> What are good c++ ide/compiler for linux?
[00:54] <julian-delphiki> blz, so now you should see "df -h" reporting the expected free space :)
[00:54] <cvtsx> What are good c++ ide/compiler for linux?
[00:54] <fancyfetus> I think I'm just going to reinstall windows
[00:54] <gmachine_24> fancyfetus: well, that could likely be the trouble
[00:54] <fancyfetus> and drop ubuntu for now.
[00:54] <PsyMar> g++ is a good compiler
[00:55] <fancyfetus> gmachine_24, no errors on the harddrive.
[00:55] <cvtsx> k
[00:55] <gmachine_24> fancyfetus, ok.
[00:55] <julian-delphiki> cvtsx, in general the gnu compiler is the best, for an IDE that's up to you.
[00:55] <blz> julian-delphiki, looks pretty good.  Is there a way to list all partitions in the vg and their respective sizes?
[00:55] <wonderfulme> julian-delphiki and that's why you speak for yourself and even more so you should be a responsible pretend parent and never let kids install linux on their parents pc's.
[00:55] <fancyfetus> It was a good run for me :P I really got used to it all
[00:55] <Dr_Willis> !info geany | cvtsx
[00:55] <julian-delphiki> !op
[00:55] <julian-delphiki> get out of here wonderfulme
[00:55] <gmachine_24> fancyfetus: but, again, if you have data you want to save - do that first
[00:55] <cvtsx> i dont like code blocks and tend to use vsc++ since i dont know of many ide/compiler for linux
[00:55] <fancyfetus> gmachine_24, of course :) Thank you!
[00:55]  * blz ducks for incoming strike package
[00:55] <cvtsx> thx for reccommendations ;)
[00:56] <gmachine_24> you know you can ignore people in here... I'm just sayin' . . .
[00:56] <julian-delphiki> i'm aware, but this is not a channel for trolls.
[00:56] <blz> gmachine_24, shouldn't have to, though...
[00:56] <blz> julian-delphiki, Is there a way to list all partitions in the vg and their respective sizes?
[00:57] <gmachine_24> agreed to both julian and blz ...... but I don't think s/he rises to the level of an emergency
[00:57] <wonderfulme> julian-delphiki say love me leave me let me be lonely
[00:57] <wonderfulme> julian-delphiki you won't believe me but I love you only
[00:57] <PsyMar> when they're telling people that ubuntu sucks and they should use windows 8 instead, I think that counts as an emergency
[00:57] <blz> PsyMar, a psychiatric one, at that...
[00:57] <thinknow> what do you guys think? Is ubuntu 12.10 LTS safer than 13.04 "Short term support" ?
[00:57] <gmachine_24> PsyMar: haha
[00:57] <julian-delphiki> blz, i'm not sure to be honest. fdisk -l will list all of your drives.
[00:58] <Dr_Willis> we all know its going to head in that direction anyway
[00:58] <cvtsx> back, xchat is having a little bit of problems
[00:58] <Dr_Willis> thinknow:  'safer' in wht way.
[00:58] <wonderfulme> thinknow windows 8.1 is the shit
[00:58] <Tylertwo> blz: The vg? "lsblk" does that from terminal
[00:58] <cvtsx> win 7 all the way
[00:58] <thinknow> wonderfulme, win8 sucks
[00:58] <thinknow> sorry :p
[00:58] <cvtsx> Anyways i will def check out geany. Thx ;)
[00:58] <thinknow> Dr_Willis, just safer,
[00:58] <Dr_Willis> thinknow:  its supposed tobe more stable. but i imagine any security bugs will be getting patched in both releases
[00:58] <thinknow> for hackers, crackers, sniffers+++
[00:58] <wonderfulme> thinknow that's not true. your love is my love
[00:58] <blz> Tylertwo,  oooh that's pretty!
[00:59] <thinknow> lol wonderfulme
[00:59] <thinknow> ;)
[00:59] <gmachine_24> alright I forgot how to ignore someone, how do I ignore notsowonderfulme?
[00:59] <blz> julian-delphiki, Well it seems to be working beautifully.  Thanks so much for your help!
[00:59] <Tylertwo> blz: yeah, I like it
[00:59] <Dr_Willis> thinknow:  most people pick lts because they dont want to upgrade every 6 mo.
[00:59] <julian-delphiki> blz, no prob, i do that on srvers about once a month.
[00:59] <cvtsx> ya ^
[00:59] <PsyMar> gmachine: probably just /ignore wonderfulme
[00:59] <cvtsx> who here isnt running 12.04?
[00:59] <wonderfulme> julian-delphiki say, love me or leave or let me be lonely
[00:59] <Dr_Willis> i always stick to the latest release.
[00:59] <ShadowBlaze18> does Cannonical have an email form without a phone number requirement?
[00:59] <thinknow> Dr_Willis, ok, so it is not because it is security holes in 13.04 ?
[01:00] <julian-delphiki> wonderfulme, please leave.
[01:00] <blz> julian-delphiki, I admire your bravery ^^
[01:00] <Ownix> I am using a linux program and stepping through the config now. What exactly does a semi colon mean in a config?
[01:00] <blz> LVMs are scary
[01:00] <gmachine_24> PsyMar: thanks. that seems to work.
[01:00] <julian-delphiki> thinknow, I wouldn't worry too much about security holes, they get patched quickly.
[01:00] <wonderfulme> julian-delphiki you might find the night-time the right time for kissing
[01:00] <julian-delphiki> Ownix, depends on the program :)
[01:00] <Dr_Willis> thinknow:  any known security bugs, would get patched in whatever release finds them. then often get backported back down to earlier releases. (if they are still under support)
[01:00] <Ownix> For example: # Authentication for the http based control. Syntax username:password # Default: not defined (Disabled) ; control_authentication username:password
[01:00] <thinknow> and another thing, why does aaaalways the computer get muuch slower when i run apt-get update and then apt-get upgrade ?
[01:00] <Ownix> julian-delphiki: how do I find out? It doesnt appear to be in man
[01:01] <thinknow> after i have runned it on a new installation
[01:01] <julian-delphiki> Ownix, what is the program/
[01:01] <thinknow> it get slow as hell
[01:01] <julian-delphiki> thinknow, that doesn't make much sense
[01:01] <Dr_Willis> thinknow:  sounds like you got some driver issues. or somthing odd. I have no slowdowns on any of my macines
[01:01] <Ownix> julian-delphiki: http://motion.sourceforge.net/
[01:01] <Dr_Willis> thinknow:  unless its your hd filling up. ;)
[01:01] <wonderfulme> nigh-time is my time for just reminiscing
[01:01] <thinknow> Dr_Willis, this is always
[01:01] <thinknow> it start out fast and fun
[01:01] <Dr_Willis> thinknow:  clarify wht gets slow.
[01:01] <thinknow> and get slow
[01:02] <thinknow> everything
[01:02] <Dr_Willis> console? commands?  or you mean the gui gets laggy
[01:02] <Dr_Willis> takes longer to boot? to login? compiles take longer?
[01:02] <thinknow> i click on file manager and have to wait a few sec before it opens
[01:02] <thinknow> like in windows
[01:02] <thinknow> :p
[01:02] <julian-delphiki> Ownix, usually a semicolon represents the "end of a line"
[01:02] <raven> daftykins you still there
[01:02] <Dr_Willis> just the gui slowing down is not 'everything' on the os.
[01:02] <thinknow> 'but when the program first have started it uselly works ok
[01:02] <daftykins> raven: ja
[01:02] <wonderfulme> fuck that indeed, nobody wants to join the channel I ask for
[01:02] <raven> daftykins http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/202/qd78.png/
[01:02] <Ownix> julian-delphiki: so should I delete that ';' to activate the feature?
[01:02] <raven> that's what my gparted looks like
[01:03] <wonderfulme> that's rather unrather
[01:03] <PsyMar> Ownix: I think you would want to replace it with a newline
[01:03] <Dr_Willis> thinknow:  check askubuntu.com perhaps they ahve some ideas. i seem to recall seeong some similer questions asked there befor
[01:03] <thinknow> Dr_Willis, have tried, but thnx anyway
[01:03] <thinknow> just a fresh installation now, and formatted
[01:03] <gmachine_24> Hi. I'm on an Ubuntu 12.04LTS desktop that I use as a music server - and I'd like to be able to get access to it from my other computers - Linux and Windows. Samba is installed and I can stream music - but cannot connect remotely or even, on Windows machines, see that files are being shared.
[01:03] <thinknow> and 1TB free space
[01:04] <daftykins> raven: ah yes, you have sda1 as primary partition then the rest are logical within an extended. Windows won't install anywhere on that disk
[01:04] <thinknow> so it should be enough space left
[01:04] <gmachine_24> I installed sshserver and client in respecitve computers
[01:04] <cvtsx> carlos you from Brazil?
[01:04] <Dr_Willis> gmachine_24:  you mean you cant connect to the samba shares? You did give the user a samba password with 'sudo smbpasswd -a username' ? you did set up some shares?
[01:04] <thinknow> But one thing more - After Ubuntu 10.04 i cant get openvpn to work with network manager, why is that?!
[01:04] <thinknow> i have heard other having the same problem
[01:05] <thinknow> i have to run it in terminal
[01:05] <thinknow> it wont show up in network manager
[01:05] <Dr_Willis> gmachine_24:  for ssh -  you should be able to see some errors in the logs if connections are refused.
[01:05] <cvtsx> upgrade to 12.04 i use openvpn all the time
[01:05] <julian-delphiki> Ownix, perhaps
[01:05] <julian-delphiki> or writing a similar line without the ; on its ownline
[01:05] <gmachine_24> Dr_Willis: Yes, set up one share only but using the same username as on Ubuntu and also set up network (Samta) password
[01:06] <thinknow> the first time with 10.04 or 9.10 i just installed openvpn and typed in info in network manager and it got a locklogo on the "connection logo"
[01:06] <gmachine_24> Dr_Willis: this would be a log on the client side?
[01:06] <blz> I'm trying to set up an NFS share on my local network but the ubuntu docs have me a bit confused.  If I don't set up NFS with Kerberos, can I still password-protect shares?
[01:06] <Dr_Willis> gmachine_24:  the ssh server has logging options, in /var/log/ somewhere it can mention whos connected and so forth. the windows ssh client may also give some info.
[01:06] <thinknow> now i cant install it that way at all, just pptp
[01:06] <gmachine_24> Dr_Willis: Also, I run logitech media server as the music server software and that I can use on any pc, laptop or remote device
[01:07] <julian-delphiki> blz, NFS has very little on its own in terms of access control
[01:07] <gmachine_24> Dr_Willis: but we're talking two separate things here, right? ssh connection vs samba shares
[01:07] <blz> julian-delphiki, so no?  I guess it wouldn't be the end of the world.  This is on my home network so simplicity tumps security.
[01:07] <blz> *trumps, even
[01:08] <gmachine_24> Dr_Willis: If the Samba share worked I'd probably figure out the ssh problem over time
[01:08] <julian-delphiki> blz, I'd recommend doing it without it :) No point in doing it on a home network assuming the NFS port isn't forwarded to the world.
[01:09] <gmachine_24> If anyone gives me another answer I'm not being rude, but I need to be AFK for a bit
[01:09] <blz> julian-delphiki, okay then.  I shall do exactly that.  I'm looking at the docs, though (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NFSv4Howto#NFSv4_without_Kerberos) and I'm a bit confused.  Is /export just a randomly chosen name or is that what NFS expects?
[01:09] <raven> daftykins what should I do?
[01:10] <arquebus> can someone give me info on how to connect wireless on my laptop? it usually works automatically after an install but its not working now
[01:11] <arquebus> also Im getting a "no network devices available" message in the menu of the wireless icon in my toolbar
[01:13] <cvtsx> So whats the c++ channel? I tried #c++ and it isnt working.... ;(
[01:13] <julian-delphiki> blz, its just an arbitrary name
[01:14] <Dr_Willis> !alis | cvtsx
[01:14] <wylde> !alis | cvtsx
[01:14] <cvtsx> thx
[01:14] <julian-delphiki> arquebus, sounds like a missing driver!
[01:14] <arquebus> cvtsx: you may have to identify with nickserv first
[01:15] <julian-delphiki> do you have a way to connect to the internet without wifi?
[01:15] <cvtsx> ya i think so, im going to register my nick now
[01:15] <arquebus> julian-delphiki: yes, I could use a network cable, I tried that and it didnt work
[01:16] <deepblue> i always get this message error in pacman,failed to commit transaction (download library error) Errors occurred, no packages were upgraded.
[01:16] <arquebus> julian-delphiki: thanks, brb
[01:16] <SpecialEd> Hey guys, I'm suddenly having trouble with my Drupal 7 site, whenever anyone tries to click the login button for /user/login we're getting an HTTP 500 error. Any suggestions?
[01:17] <HumptyDumpty001> Hi my machine freezes randomly how to enable detailed logging in ubuntu
[01:18] <HumptyDumpty001> I am on 13 version
[01:19] <HumptyDumpty001> @sprcialed check directory /var/logs/httpd and find error_log
[01:20] <julian-delphiki> deepblue, pacman isn't an ubuntu thing.
[01:20] <julian-delphiki> SpecialEd, i'd check /var/log/apache2/error.log and whatever *-error.logs are in that folder.
[01:20] <julian-delphiki> HumptyDumpty001, it's apache2 in ubuntu
[01:21] <julian-delphiki> HumptyDumpty001, random freezes are usually from hardware problems... /var/log/messages and dmesg might tell you more.
[01:21] <deepblue> julian-delphiki, it's in  Archlinux
[01:21] <julian-delphiki> !arch
[01:21] <julian-delphiki> !archlinux
[01:21] <SpecialEd> Julian: I'm all over them and all I'm seeing is " Apache/2.2.22 (Ubuntu) PHP/5.3.10-1ubuntu3.8 with Suhosin-Patch configured -- resuming normal operations" which was when I restarted apache2 a few minutes ago
[01:21] <HumptyDumpty001> Hmm i got new machine i did memory check
[01:21] <julian-delphiki> deepblue, we dont support arch here.
[01:22] <julian-delphiki> SpecialEd, yeah, then check the site specific *-error.log
[01:22] <julian-delphiki> it should be in there
[01:22] <julian-delphiki> SpecialEd, except if your php.ini has a custom error_log location set.
[01:22] <gulag2013> Would it be possible to change the location where Firefox stores it's bookmarks, I know it's not the Firefox channel. I have tried there and no answer yet.
[01:22] <HumptyDumpty001> Julian any util to do full system check like memory86
[01:22] <ShadowBlaze18> thanks for your help guys :)
[01:22] <ShadowBlaze18> bye
[01:23] <pfifo> HumptyDumpty001: there is memtest86+
[01:23] <SpecialEd> (36)File name too long: access to /sites/A.all,,_themes,,_bootstrap,,_css,,_overrides.css,,qmu4o14+default,,_files,,_,,_fontyourface,,_wysiwyg.css,,qmu4o14+default,,_files,,_,,_cpn,,_author_pane-delta-0.css,,qmu4o14+default,,_files,,_,,_fontyourface,,_font.css,,qmu4o14+default,,_files,,_,,_fontyourface,,_local_fonts,,_Vera-normal-normal,,_stylesheet.css,,qmu4o14+default,,_files,,_,,_css_injector,,_css_injector_1.css,,qmu4o14,M
[01:23] <SpecialEd> cc.R33 failed
[01:23] <julian-delphiki> HumptyDumpty001, I'd bet its something overheating.
[01:23] <julian-delphiki> SpecialEd, ooof, thats a tough one.
[01:24] <SpecialEd> should i drush uninstall fonturface?
[01:24] <blz> It's been a while since I've used 12.04  How do I add a PPA again?  Do I have to add it to /etc/apt/sources.list ?
[01:25] <julian-delphiki> SpecialEd, I can't say for sure, its been a while since i've admined drupal... Sounds like something is turning /sites/somepath into some gross huge path.
[01:25] <julian-delphiki> !ppa | blz
[01:25] <HumptyDumpty001> (julian-delphiki) how to keep track of heating
[01:25] <blz> !addppa
[01:26] <julian-delphiki> blz, i believe it is add-apt-repository.
[01:26] <blz> julian-delphiki, not in 12.04 though =/
[01:26] <blz> Hence my troubles
[01:26] <julian-delphiki> oh, blz,apt-get install python-software-properties
[01:26] <blz> oh. wow!
[01:27] <SpecialEd> so you think that long error is something else besides fontyourface ?
[01:27] <daftykins> raven: you'll have to backup every partition after sda1 then delete and recreate
[01:27] <julian-delphiki> SpecialEd, I can't say for sure, seems like a bug in some drupal module.
[01:28] <SpecialEd> is there a drush command to see which modules are installed?
[01:28] <SpecialEd> and then I can just go down the list and remove em until i get lucky
[01:28] <julian-delphiki> SpecialEd, you might be better off asking in a drupal channel, I can't say for sure.
[01:29] <SpecialEd> oh my god I'm sorry I thought I was in drupal, my bad!!! <-- Stupid me!
[01:32] <GH0> What would be the easiest way to install the latest version of znc from raring to precise?
[01:32] <fourq__> can someone help me with my iptables.firewall.rules? I'm getting "Failed connect to 127.0.01:9200; Connection refused" http://pastebin.com/2eRpcTGu
[01:33] <julian-delphiki> GH0 I'd just grab it from source, tho there may be a PPA
[01:33] <fourq__> I'm calling that uri from curl on the same box as the rules
[01:34] <julian-delphiki> fourq__, it would appear you're not accepting port 9200 :) add "-A INPUT -p tcp --dport 9200 -j ACCEPT" by the 80 and 443 rules.
[01:34] <julian-delphiki> and then restart your fw service.
[01:34] <pfifo> fourq__: look right to me, your rejecting all connections to 127.0.0.1 and your getting a connection reused, no problems there
[01:35] <fourq__> yeah I know, and I commented that out first, but i didn;t know which service to restart
[01:35] <fourq__> so I thought i'd ask what the best way to allow that port insternal was
[01:36] <fourq__> internal
[01:36] <julian-delphiki> fourq__, did you see what I said? you should add that rule and /etc/init.d/iptables restart
[01:36] <fourq__> thanks julian-delphiki
[01:37] <fourq__> and that will just allow via localhost not publicly right?
[01:37] <julian-delphiki> fourq__, is the service on port 9200 listening on localhost or all ips?
[01:38] <fourq__> just localhost
[01:38] <pfifo> fourq__: add '-i lo' in there to specify the interface
[01:39] <julian-delphiki> then it'll just allow localhost. if you want the firewall rules to reflect that and you can either do what pfifo says or do " -A INPUT -p tcp -s 127.0.0.1 --dport 9200 -j ACCEPT"
[01:39] <fourq__> what is the name of the default fw service to restart after apply this?
[01:39] <fourq__> sudo service <fw> restart
[01:39] <julian-delphiki> iptables
[01:39] <fourq__> thanks guys/girls
[01:39] <julian-delphiki> (or UFW if you're using that)
[01:41] <pfifo> fourq__: actuall the -s in that last line means source, you want -d for destination... of course for a localhost it dosent matter, but if it was a public interface that it would
[01:41] <julian-delphiki> pfifo, not if he wanted to allow localhost only
[01:42] <julian-delphiki> -s 127.0.0.1 would be correct.
[01:42] <GH0> julian-delphiki, when trying to configure from the tarball, I run into this issue though: http://pastebin.com/z0LQNvHm
[01:42] <Ownix> Noob question, when I do su username and then login with that users password, whoami reports that I am not that user
[01:42] <GH0> Not sure what else is needed to do make or install, and/or why it isn't installed by default in Ubuntu Server LTS
[01:42] <julian-delphiki> Ownix, "su - username" i think
[01:43] <julian-delphiki> GH0 "apt-get install build-essential"
[01:43] <Ownix> julian-delphiki: http://pastie.org/private/ioins0eetlotfpkznphw
[01:43] <Ownix> no dice
[01:44] <vorlket> someone give me pointer to keyboard failure boot hangup?
[01:45] <Ownix> julian-delphiki: this would be why motion:x:108:115::/home/motion:/bin/false
[01:46] <julian-delphiki> Ownix, ah yeah, the /bin/false?
[01:46] <pfifo> julian-delphiki: ok got ya, that is what were trying for
[01:46] <Ownix> So I guess the motion app didnt want people to login as that user
[01:46] <julian-delphiki> you could su -c "whoami" motion
[01:46] <julian-delphiki> i think, Ownix
[01:46] <Ownix> Im trying to run the app as the user it created
[01:46] <delinquentme> so... basically nobody ever installs the proprietary video drivers right?
[01:46] <delinquentme> brand new larptarp
[01:46] <julian-delphiki> delinquentme, I have before.
[01:46] <Ownix> Is there a better way to do this? If I do sudo motion im essentially runn9ing the app as root correct?
[01:46] <delinquentme> installed these damn prop drivers and the display does no work nao
[01:47] <julian-delphiki> Ownix, yeah, most apps run as root and then drop their privs to a less privileged user.
[01:47] <julian-delphiki> delinquentme, damn, ATI or AMD?
[01:47] <julian-delphiki> err
[01:47] <julian-delphiki> ATI or NVIDIA?
[01:47] <Ownix> julian-delphiki: so doing 'sudo motion' is probably safe?
[01:47] <pfifo> Ownix: it looks like it set it up so that motion user is for file ownership... it might be changing to that user inside the program
[01:47] <julian-delphiki> Ownix, usually one starts a service with /etc/init.d/servicename start
[01:48] <Ownix> Well I just told it to start in daemon mode and then it threw this
[01:48] <Ownix> http://pastie.org/private/fzjgngocxakbxhztoxdrq#6
[01:49] <julian-delphiki> Ownix, sounds like /var/run/motion doesn't exist.
[01:49] <delinquentme> julian-delphiki, nvdia
[01:51] <julian-delphiki> delinquentme, man, and new laptop? drivers might not support it
[01:51] <julian-delphiki> I'd try nouveau
[01:52] <fourq__> so if 13.04 is using ufw, will the rules in /etc/iptables.firewall.rules even apply?
[01:53] <Ownix> julian-delphiki: correct. I created the directory and chowned it to 'motion', Now here is a question for you. I have motion set up to take a picture when movement is detected. These pictures are saved to /tmp/motion. What would be the best way to wput these to an FTP server? Is there some type of script that could see when a new file was added to a dir and
[01:53] <Ownix> then fire the wput command? motion does not seem to have any built in ftp settings, But it does have the ability to save to an SQL server which is odd
[01:54] <pfifo> Ownix: use rsync, it will transfer only changes and new files... call rsync from within crontab (i think youll have to install a crond)
[01:54] <Dr_Willis> Ownix:  you can mount the ftp server to a local directgory and let the app write directlyu to the server if you wanted to. or rsync in a cron job may be a better idea
[01:54] <Dr_Willis> !info fam
[01:54] <Kalel> Greetings.. I'd like to know, what really does the 'i2c-tools' for my Raring?
[01:54] <pfifo> Hi Dr_Willis
[01:54] <Ownix> Those are two great ideas thanks guys
[01:55] <Dr_Willis> !info ic2-tools
[01:55] <Ownix> pfifo: what is the point of the crontab? is it just so rsync starts on boot?
[01:55] <Dr_Willis> !info i2c-tools
[01:55] <Dr_Willis> tools to mess with i2c devices
[01:55] <pfifo> Ownix: rsync is a oneshot... you need cron to call it ever 10 minutes or so
[01:55] <Ownix> whats an ic2 device?
[01:56] <Ownix> pfifo: so every 10 minutes it will upload the changes to my FTP site?
[01:56] <Ownix> I see
[01:56] <Dr_Willis> Ownix:  a bit of hardware like a temp sensor or somthing. id suggest checkng wikipedia
[01:56] <Ownix> I dont have anything like that. Just a simple cheap webcam
[01:56] <Kalel> Greetings Dr.. I'll see further information online.
[01:56] <Dr_Willis> ;)
[01:56] <pfifo> Ownix: no... cron will call rsync every 10 minutes... rsync will upload to ftp ( 2 seperate actions)
[01:57] <mark_____> hey, folks - I'm super new to linux and wanted to ask for some advice with respect to finding resources that can help me use it -- I'm running Ubuntu 13.04
[01:57] <pfifo> Ownix: i2c is a different issue from what your asking
[01:57] <Dr_Willis> heh.
[01:57] <Dr_Willis> !manual | mark_____
[01:58] <Roy_Ubuntu_13-04> how can i find the UUID for /dev/sdh1 on /media/roy/LIFESTUDIO type vfat ... so i can edit fstab to mount LIFESTUDIO in a different location
[01:58] <Dr_Willis> Roy_Ubuntu_13-04:  sudo blkid
[01:58] <Ownix> pfifo: I know the concept is simple but im struggling to wrap my head around it lol so every 10 minutes cron calls rsync and tells it to run and then rsync does its thing and uploads changes? So if my server crashed 5 minutes after the last rsyn job changes will not be pushed to the ftp server?
[01:58] <Roy_Ubuntu_13-04> thanks
[01:58] <mark_____> wonderful!  Thanks!
[01:59] <pfifo> Ownix: as soon as thew server comes back up, crond will start again... resuming the whole shebang #!
[01:59] <Ownix> pfifo: unless the server has been blown up with an RPG
[01:59] <Ownix> what tools are available for that?
[01:59] <Dr_Willis> apt-get install rpg-shield
[02:00] <Ownix> I forgot that was in the repo!
[02:00] <Dr_Willis> i have the skynet repos enabnled.. it may not be in yours
[02:00] <Ownix> All praise the Canonical gods
[02:02] <mark_____> ALSO, I was trying to configure a thumbdrive from which I can boot a machine from and do stuff in the OS and then save my changes, etc.  Basically, I wanted a jump drive that would let me bypass a machine's OS, and the Ubuntu stick would just run of a machine's hardware.  My research indicated that I should create a live jump drive with persistence, but I'm having a great deal of trouble achieving this.  I've tried a punch of applica
[02:03] <mark_____> and the one that comes with Ubuntu – but I can't get it to work.  I assumed it was my own blundering, but I followed the instructions exactly and none of the programs achieved the task.  Any tips or tricks?
[02:04] <Stevenrego> hi
[02:04] <Stevenrego> anyone know any rooms for ptc assistance?
[02:04] <Dr_Willis> mark_____:  the tools at the pendrivelinux site can get you going.
[02:05] <Dr_Willis> mark_____: you just need a live usb setup with a persistant 'save' file
[02:05] <mark_____> Thanks, Dr. Willis.  I'll try them again, but I couldn;t get them to work before.
[02:05] <Dr_Willis> or whatever term they use these days
[02:05] <Dr_Willis> mark_____:  the site has a dozen differnt tools.
[02:05] <mark_____> IS there an issue if I'm running the application in a virtual machine?
[02:05] <dasuchin> anyone have any experience setting up a ventrilo server? I can't get my client to connect when I have the server running
[02:05] <Dr_Willis> your vm is writeing to a real usb flash drive? cant say i bother to do that.
[02:06] <mark_____> I've been using real flash drives, yes.
[02:06] <Dr_Willis> so how is a vm figureing into this?
[02:06] <Roy_Ubuntu_13-04> hay the LIFESTUDIO  is a fat32, so what would i put inplace of ntfs-3g for my fstab
[02:06] <mark_____> I tried a few different ones to ensure that my issue wasn't some pecularity of the physical flash drive
[02:06] <pfifo> Ownix: then yopefully you have a pic of the guy who shot the RPG... 10 minutes is just an example... cron will allow a command to be run at as little as 1 minute intervals... if you need realtime... consider the 'mount the ftp' and upload directly... or perhaps motion has a remote server capability
[02:06] <Dr_Willis> Roy_Ubuntu_13-04:  'vfat'
[02:07] <Roy_Ubuntu_13-04> thamnks
[02:07] <Dr_Willis> Roy_Ubuntu_13-04:  or 'auto'
[02:07] <mark_____> I work on a Mac, so I'm learning Linux in a virtual machine and have windows in a VM as well
[02:07] <pfifo> Dr_Willis: can you pastebin the output of 'dig -x 66.172.11.150'
[02:07] <Roy_Ubuntu_13-04> is auto not as good as putting the actual one?
[02:07] <mark_____> so I'm running the various applications in a windows viertual machine
[02:08] <Dr_Willis> dig -x 66.172.11.150 | pastebinit
[02:08] <Dr_Willis> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6194818/
[02:08] <pfifo> thank you kindly my good sir!
[02:08] <Dr_Willis> Roy_Ubuntu_13-04:  it shold be identical
[02:09] <Roy_Ubuntu_13-04> k, thanks
[02:09] <Dr_Willis> Roy_Ubuntu_13-04:  if the os can figure out the filesystem
[02:09] <Roy_Ubuntu_13-04> k
[02:09] <dasuchin> anyone have any experience setting up a ventrilo server? I can't get my client to connect when I have the server running
[02:09] <Stevenrego> http://Fun4Days.Com/?share=161502
[02:10] <blz> This is a bit of an unusual question, I think, but is there a setting that I could tweak to make my SATA drives less noisy?  Don't some HDDs have fast-vs-quiet parameters?
[02:10] <Kalel> I could install MS W7 in a VM, rather in my HD. I ensure make a ntfs** partition to do it the next time..
[02:11] <Stevenrego> http://Fun4Days.com/sms/sms.php?share=161502
[02:11] <pfifo> who needs a hostmask when you got a hostname :D
[02:12] <daftykins> blz: some do, but i don't think it's without an element of risk. performance will drop too
[02:12] <blz> daftykins, I could live with the drop in performance.  What are the risks?
[02:12] <blz> And what are the settings?
[02:13] <daftykins> i'm trying to remember the program but i'm drawing a blank
[02:13] <daftykins> blz: try and look up whether your hard disk(s) support such settings from google first perhaps
[02:14] <blz> daftykins, can you suggest any search terms?  I'm not sure what the thing is that they may or may not support =/
[02:14] <daftykins> blz: acoustic settings perhaps
[02:15] <blz> will-do =)
[02:16] <Kalel> Ok, I am very mad with my internet speed now.. 3G isnt a such plausible thing...
[02:16] <blz> daftykins, kdparm -M seems to be the thing =)
[02:16] <daftykins> hdparm! that's the sucker
[02:17] <xus> hello
[02:17] <xus> °°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°//°???????????????????????
[02:18] <daftykins> hi
[02:18] <xus> #join brasil
[02:18] <Kalel> what si up..
[02:19] <daftykins> Kalel: this is a channel for support, not for general chat
[02:20] <Kalel> I know that, daftykins.
[02:20] <pfifo> I want my hard drive to click out the tune jingle bells during disk access for the next 3 months... what params do I give to hdparam?
[02:21] <daftykins> Kalel: stop ranting then (:
[02:22] <Kalel> Sir..
[02:22] <Roy_Ubuntu_13-04> what is the first line that goes in a bash script?
[02:23] <daftykins>  #!/bin/bash
[02:23] <pfifo> Roy_Ubuntu_13-04: its called a shebang, and specifies what program to run the script with ex...
[02:23] <pfifo> #!/bin/dash
[02:23] <Roy_Ubuntu_13-04> thanks, in a moment ill need just a bit of help
[02:24] <Roy_Ubuntu_13-04> bash
[02:24] <Roy_Ubuntu_13-04> ^ did u make typo
[02:25] <pfifo> no, was something else, dash is a different shell, I like #!/usr/bin/python myself
[02:25] <Roy_Ubuntu_13-04> bash is the default?
[02:26] <pfifo> Roy_Ubuntu_13-04: yes it is the default, for bash its #!/bin/bash also /bin/sh should be a symlink to the systems prefered shell
[02:32] <Roy_Ubuntu_13-04> how can i make the shell script work with files in the same path as the .sh ... like ~/ would be to the "current" users home
[02:32] <mark_____> thanks, Dr. Willis
[02:32] <Roy_Ubuntu_13-04> would it involve pwd or is there something else i can use
[02:33] <mark_____> I'm trying persistence again
[02:33] <Kalel_> That can be useful: http://www.ss64.com/bash/
[02:33] <Roy_Ubuntu_13-04>  Kalel_: is that for me
[02:34] <Roy_Ubuntu_13-04> that dont help if so
[02:34] <Kalel_> All ubuntu users..
[02:35] <Kalel_> unix like rather.
[02:38] <Stevenrego> http://Visitors2Cash.com/ref.php?refId=145617
[02:39] <Roy_Ubuntu_13-04> how can you print/echo/whatever the FULL Current Users Home path to a file??
[02:39] <Roy_Ubuntu_13-04> and each time you run the same command, it replaces and not add to the old
[02:40] <otak> echo $HOME >> home.txt
[02:40] <krux> echo $HOME > file
[02:40] <krux> :P
[02:43] <Roy_Ubuntu_13-04> ok it is good for the home path to be nine chars but the file is ten bytes... ecryptfs will be using this file
[02:44] <Roy_Ubuntu_13-04> and there is no line break
[02:44] <Dr_Willis> Roy_Ubuntu_13-04:  i have to wonder what you are trying to acomplish with this.. well.. weirdness. ;)
[02:46] <Roy_Ubuntu_13-04> ecryptfs forces its self to only use .ecryptfs & .Private in the home folder, im making it work from a USB drive... it WORKS, but from the laptop to the desktop 12.04 to 13.04 the mount points are different
[02:47] <Dr_Willis> you have your home on a usb you mean?
[02:47] <Roy_Ubuntu_13-04> i forced them to be the same, but for in the future, im making it more easy to work with cause my friend isnt linux smart
[02:47] <Roy_Ubuntu_13-04> NO HOME ON USB !!!
[02:48] <Roy_Ubuntu_13-04> sorry for caps
[02:48] <Dr_Willis> so what mount points are differnet?
[02:48] <Roy_Ubuntu_13-04> im using symbolic links and ecryptfs works properly with it that way
[02:48] <rypervenche> I don't see why people encrypt their home directories in Ubuntu :/
[02:49] <Roy_Ubuntu_13-04> my home is not encrypted
[02:49] <din> my entire disk is encrypted
[02:49] <din> well my / partition...
[02:49] <Dr_Willis> that seems even more confuseing to me now Roy_Ubuntu_13-04  but i guess if you are having fun...
[02:50] <James_Epp> Assume Ubuntu 12.04.3 with the 'mdadm' package installed but with no email configured. Also assume I used disk utility to create a stripped array between two disks. What notification will I receive if a drive is detected as failing? Some kind of item in the panel? What should I expect?
[02:50] <Dr_Willis> James_Epp:  i odubt if you will get a desktop/popup/dialog
[02:50] <James_Epp> Dr_Willis: Okay.
[02:50] <Dr_Willis> error messages in the log files. or dmesg perhaps
[02:51] <James_Epp> Dr_Willis: hmm. okay. do you have any experience with mdadm?
[02:51] <Dr_Willis> James_Epp:  none what so ever.
[02:51] <James_Epp> Dr_Willis: Okay.
[02:51] <Roy_Ubuntu_13-04> on 12.04 the mount point is /media/LIFESTUDIO but on 13.04 its /media/roy/LIFESTUDIO .. So i edit fstab to make the desktop 13.04 to /home/LIFESTUDIO
[02:51] <john__> looking for help:  How to make "/home" move to a separate partition
[02:51] <Dr_Willis> ive learned to stay awy from raids and complex setups. ;)
[02:51] <James_Epp> Dr_Willis: thanks for the info.
[02:52] <Roy_Ubuntu_13-04>  Dr_Willis: on 12.04 the mount point is /media/LIFESTUDIO but on 13.04 its /media/roy/LIFESTUDIO .. So i edit fstab to make the desktop 13.04 to /home/LIFESTUDIO
[02:52] <Dr_Willis> Roy_Ubuntu_13-04:  i belive theres option to make it use the old style mountpoints.. or just link  /media/roy to '..' up one directory ;)
[02:52] <alcabs> hi all im new to ubuntu, i have problem after installing beta drivers in amd i notice that after installing Catalyst control center is missing please help
[02:54] <Roy_Ubuntu_13-04> but this guy is not all that smart with linux , and one day i wont be around to help him, so if he was to ever wipe his machine and dont set it up the same way, or goto a different linux machine with a different user.  Dr_Willis:
[02:55] <Dr_Willis> Roy_Ubuntu_13-04:  if thats the case  - sounds like you shouldent be using any encrypted filesystems or homes at all.
[02:55] <Roy_Ubuntu_13-04> im making a shell script on the usb drive so when he runs it it will update all the paths and mount path for the private folder to interface with
[02:55] <Roy_Ubuntu_13-04> he is getting used to linux
[02:56] <Dr_Willis> so you are makign a shell script.. and you started the day today not even knowing the most basics of making a shell script?
[02:56] <Roy_Ubuntu_13-04> ive made schripts beforre, just dont remember a lot
[02:56] <Dr_Willis> where is this private folder comming from?  theres a private directory ON the usb?
[02:57] <alcabs> hi can you help me catalyst control center is missing
[02:57] <delinquentme> Is there a way to email from commandline?
[02:57] <delinquentme> TLDR config script ... + proprietary drivers = display drivers poo'd
[02:57] <Roy_Ubuntu_13-04> there is a .ecryptfs & .Private & Private folders on /media/DeviceName
[02:58] <Roy_Ubuntu_13-04> i make symlinks to those to the home folder and it works
[03:00] <Roy_Ubuntu_13-04> when running the script from the Desktop, it doesnt show the terminal, how can i make it do so
[03:00] <Dr_Willis> make a launcher that runs 'xterm -e thescript'   is one way
[03:00] <James_Epp> alcabs: I suggest checking out the #radeon channel
[03:01] <Roy_Ubuntu_13-04> with is the script its self, just one file
[03:01] <Roy_Ubuntu_13-04> within*
[03:01] <Dr_Willis> will depend on the file manager i imagine
[03:01] <Dr_Willis> the common way is to make a launcher, and i recall a 'run in termional' option
[03:01] <Roy_Ubuntu_13-04> ubuntu 12.04 file manager
[03:01] <Dr_Willis> a .desktop file launcher should work with all the common desktops
[03:02] <James_Epp> Roy_Ubuntu_13-04: You may also try ("gnome-terminal -x bash ~/Script.sh")
[03:02] <Dr_Willis> somthing.desktop   (see gedit.desktop) for an example.
[03:02] <Dr_Willis> not all the terminal emulators support the exact same option. Had issues with this in the past
[03:02] <Dr_Willis> and depending on the setup - the default terminal emulato rmay differ/
[03:04] <Dr_Willis> xubuntu i notice has a right click -> execute  item. but that dosent launch it in a open xterm.
[03:06] <delinquentme> so I need an smpt server to send email from the command line huh?
[03:06] <otak> i think x-terminal-emulator -x COMMAND  , does ubuntu even have xterm?
[03:07] <Roy_Ubuntu_13-04> is there a way to rm so it dont go to the trash can, like Shift+Del would do?
[03:08] <airtonix_> delinquentme: no
[03:09] <Dr_Willis> Roy_Ubuntu_13-04:  you mean the 'rm' command? theres some other cli tools/scripts that can move to the trash. but i cant recall their names
[03:09] <Roy_Ubuntu_13-04> thats what i said rm
[03:09] <Dr_Willis> some GUI file managers have a 'delete, dont move to trash' option
[03:09] <airtonix> Roy_Ubuntu_13-04: `man rm` will reveal all.
[03:09] <BoomerBile> you can just mv to .trash-1000
[03:10] <Roy_Ubuntu_13-04> i want to rm to where it does not goto the trash
[03:10] <BoomerBile> rm
[03:10] <BoomerBile> if you want to remove entire directories rm -r
[03:10] <Dr_Willis> 'rm' command does Not go to the 'trashcan'
[03:10] <Dr_Willis> so thats whats confuseing us.
[03:10] <Roy_Ubuntu_13-04> oh ok
[03:10] <Dr_Willis> no idea why you would think it does. ;)
[03:10] <BoomerBile> if you are in a gui, press and hold shift and right click it, or press shift + delete
[03:10] <Roy_Ubuntu_13-04> never checked lol
[03:11] <Roy_Ubuntu_13-04> BoomerBile i already know that as i have mentioned
[03:11] <Dr_Willis> It might be a good idea to schedule in reading a few command line tutorials in the near future. ;)
[03:11] <BoomerBile> just got here :)
[03:11] <Roy_Ubuntu_13-04> k
[03:12] <Dr_Willis> i think for removeable media. nautilus has some option to delete directly or put stuff on the .Trash* dir on the root of the media also.
[03:12] <Dr_Willis> that can cause issues if you dont notice it
[03:12] <Dr_Willis> 'i deleted 10gb of files off my usb and its still full....'  -> files are in the .Trash ;P
[03:12] <otak> osx does that too
[03:12] <Roy_Ubuntu_13-04> ive had that issue too lol
[03:12] <BoomerBile> in kde if you're using it, you can have it display the extra 'delete' option under the 'move to trash' option
[03:13] <devinceble> use Shift + Del
[03:13] <CrazyZurfer> hi guys
[03:13] <Dr_Willis> i normally notice it when i put the flash drive in another pc or media player. and see a .Trash directory at the top of my video files listing
[03:13] <Dr_Willis> ;P
[03:13] <airtonix> Roy_Ubuntu_13-04: unless you couldn't tell I wasn't saying "Mannnn you really need to do X", i was in fact saying that the command `man` will reveal the manual pages  for a command.
[03:13] <Roy_Ubuntu_13-04> hey with out rm a file how can i make it null / blank / 0 bytes
[03:14] <BoomerBile> info works too, and it is replacing man slowly
[03:14] <Dr_Willis> thunar seems to have a 'delte' and 'move to trash' both by default
[03:14] <BoomerBile> info <command>
[03:14] <Dr_Willis> Roy_Ubuntu_13-04:  'echo "" > file'
[03:14] <Roy_Ubuntu_13-04> >>
[03:14] <Dr_Willis> Roy_Ubuntu_13-04: 'bash redirection'
[03:14] <airtonix> Roy_Ubuntu_13-04: also bookmark: commandlinefu.com
[03:14] <Roy_Ubuntu_13-04> i didnt think of ""
[03:15] <BoomerBile> Roy_Ubuntu_13-04, >> won't replace it, it will concatenate to it
[03:15] <CrazyZurfer> I think I've found a solution for my problem, this unrecognized hdd by ubuntu installer and gparted http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1604074&page=4&p=10022223#post10022223, this seems to be the answers to all my problems, but since I'm new with ubuntu, I'm lost. How do I install this gptfdisk software?
[03:15] <Dr_Willis>  > replaves.  >> appends
[03:15] <Dr_Willis> replaces
[03:15] <CrazyZurfer> i've downloaded the tar.gz
[03:16] <Roy_Ubuntu_13-04> when i do > it just adds new lines but >> starts it over
[03:16] <Dr_Willis> could be im backwards.. i rarely mess with this stuff any more
[03:16] <[SKT]_RORY> Roy_Ubuntu_13-04: I think you're mistaken
[03:17] <[SKT]_RORY> Roy_Ubuntu_13-04: You've just described the opposite of the actual behaviour
[03:17] <Roy_Ubuntu_13-04> i had to trial and error a moment agao with > & >>
[03:17] <Dr_Willis> >> appends here. i just tested it
[03:17] <Dr_Willis> echo "hello" > foo
[03:17] <Dr_Willis> cat foo
[03:17] <Dr_Willis> echo "hell000000o" >> foo  && cat foo -> shows both lines
[03:17] <Dr_Willis> echo "" > foo
[03:17] <Dr_Willis> shows a blank file
[03:19] <Dr_Willis> cat /dev/null > foo
[03:19] <Dr_Willis> dosent even return a blank line. l)
[03:20] <Dr_Willis> echo -n "" > foo   - seems the same as the cat /dev/null
[03:22] <Roy_Ubuntu_13-04> whats the -n for
[03:24] <Roy_Ubuntu_13-04> perfict the echo -n gets rid of the mistirous extra char that does not show up in the file
[03:27] <Dr_Willis> err... thats a 'carrage return' character...
[03:27] <Dr_Willis> its not mysterious at all ;)
[03:27] <Dr_Willis> cr/lf
[03:27] <Roy_Ubuntu_13-04> echo $USER which is "roy" and the file would be 4 bytes with out a new line below
[03:28] <Dr_Willis> echo -n $USER --> 'roy'   no n - it has has a Carrage return. (or is that a line feed)
[03:28] <pfifo> Roy_Ubuntu_13-04: install and use 'hexdump' then you can actually "see" the newline 0x13
[03:28] <Dr_Willis> some text editors can show the 'whitespace' characters
[03:31] <HumptyDumpty001> Whats alternative of notepad++
[03:32] <[SKT]_RORY> !ot | HumptyDumpty001 Ask in here please
[03:32] <CrazyZurfer> it F****** works!
[03:33] <otak> gptfdisk?
[03:33] <Axlin> HumptyDumpty001: You mean for Ubuntu? gedit should ship by default.
[03:33] <HumptyDumpty001> Yes
[03:33] <alcabs> hi all i tried #radeon channel but message failed to send
[03:33] <gulag2013> Humpty, that bot is trigger happy. I mostly use the built in gedit also
[03:34] <CrazyZurfer> When installing ubuntu, I've choosen to install it with w7 in the same disk. Which one of the two partitions listed is w7's and wich one is ubuntu's? (the left one or the right one?)
  can you see what file system is being used?  That's the easy way for me.  fts windows, ext# ubuntu
[03:36] <Roy_Ubuntu_13-04> is there s $pwd i figure out i can just call a file in the same path with my script with out giving its full path, but is there a safer way
[03:37] <CrazyZurfer> john__: worked, thanks
  anytime
[03:37] <Jayhawker07> If I have a data partition on /dev/sda6, what do I add to fstab to make sure every user can read/write/execute on it at boot?
[03:38] <pfifo> Roy_Ubuntu_13-04: set a variable with the path you want, and when you call stuff use "$MYPATH/myfile.sh" or such
[03:38] <nurow> Hmmm, I'm having an annoying problem with tons of games. If I make them full screen, they open in between my two monitors, instead of on my primary monitor. I have an nvidia 780M GTX with proprietary drivers...
[03:39] <alcabs> hi i have problem after installing beta drivers in amd site catalyst control center is missing please help
[03:39] <Roy_Ubuntu_13-04> ok how can u make a script print its own path, so as it changes location, will always be correct
[03:40] <Roy_Ubuntu_13-04> with out having to adjust the script
[03:40] <[SKT]_RORY> Roy_Ubuntu_13-04: In future know that #bash exists - http://www.jtanium.com/2007/12/21/bash-get-current-script-name-and-relative-and-absolute-paths/
[03:40] <john__> looking for Help moving '/home' to new partition.  Anyone?
[03:40] <pfifo> Roy_Ubuntu_13-04: 'pwd' prints the current directory... but you shouldnt be using 'cd' in a script to move around
[03:40] <[SKT]_RORY> john__: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Partitioning/Home/Moving
[03:41] <[SKT]_RORY> john__: First result on Google for "Ubuntu move home directory to new partition" - you're welcome
[03:41] <john__> thanks, I've been google-ing for an hour with no luck
[03:41] <[SKT]_RORY> john__: Rubbish
[03:41] <Roy_Ubuntu_13-04> pfifo i wont be moving around, ill be making symlinks
[03:42] <Roy_Ubuntu_13-04> the location of the script will some times change
[03:42] <pfifo> Roy_Ubuntu_13-04: thats not good programming practice
[03:43] <Roy_Ubuntu_13-04> pfifo how much did u read about what i said when i was talking about making ecryptfs work out side of the home folder
[03:44] <john__> [SKT]_RORY: if you know what you are looking for google works fast, if you don't you get lost.
[03:44] <alcabs> how to fix catalyst control center missing
[03:44] <pfifo> Roy_Ubuntu_13-04: none
[03:44] <jossmp> #‎codigolinuxperu‬
[03:46] <Axlin> alcabs: Make sure you have "fglrx-amdcccle" installed.
[03:47] <alcabs> Axlin : in synaptic manager it is installed but when i run in terminal not installed i tried to re installed it but not showing
[03:48] <Axlin> alcabs: With which command are you trying to launch it? It should launch with "amdcccle"
[03:48] <Roy_Ubuntu_13-04> how can i do a line to where if ecryptfs-mount-private command does not exist then to install it with apt-get?
[03:49] <alcabs> Axlin: yes
[03:49] <Roy_Ubuntu_13-04> in my script
[03:49] <pfifo> Roy_Ubuntu_13-04: ok, I got it... but you still shouldnt be using 'cd' in a script, even in this case.
[03:49] <Roy_Ubuntu_13-04> there will be no "cd" at all
[03:50] <pfifo> Roy_Ubuntu_13-04: "if [ -f /usr/sbin/ecryptfs-mount-private]"
[03:50] <alcabs> Axlin: command not found
[03:51] <alcabs> Axlin: i tried sudo amdcccle
[03:51] <Roy_Ubuntu_13-04> like can u make a full example with then and else or elseif
[03:55] <LiENUS> so my old assed laptop that im putting ubuntu on is slow as piss with unity, i have an amd sempron 3500+ 2gb ram and 80gb ssd, if i use plain jane gnome it's fine, will switching to kubuntu work better with the stock stuff?
[03:55] <pfifo> Roy_Ubuntu_13-04: http://fpaste.org/44452/94532213/
[03:55] <LiENUS> im guessing compiz just doesnt work well with the system
[03:56] <Roy_Ubuntu_13-04> thank you pfifo
[03:57] <Roy_Ubuntu_13-04> pfifo does the exit 0 end the if statment or end the script all together
[03:58] <Equinox3> LiENUS: i think lubuntu would work the fastest
[03:58] <LiENUS> Equinox3, well gnome fallback works great
[03:59] <LiENUS> another thing im wondering if switching from 64 bit ubuntu to 32 bit would be better
[03:59] <LiENUS> its actually pretty humorous to use since power button to login is a few seconds
[03:59] <Roy_Ubuntu_13-04> so i can have other commands below the fi that will run no matter what the out come of the if is
[03:59] <LiENUS> login and click the unity magic search thingy button
[03:59] <LiENUS> and it just sits there
[04:03] <TheStuntman> so wondered if anyone would mind giving me a hand here, I've tried both grep and sed and sed seems to way to go but I just can't seem to get the syntax right. I'm trying to delete a specific line after a file is created because its using a ls to generate a playlist. But I don't want the bash script to be in that list. So I'm trying sed '/"/home/mp3/gen.sh"/d' playlist.txt but of course its not working
[04:03] <TheStuntman> if anyone has a clue as to what I can do here, much appreciated
[04:05] <pfifo> Roy_Ubuntu_13-04: it ends the entire script, always exit with an exit code
[04:06] <TheStuntman> @pfifo are you talking to me?
[04:06] <TheStuntman> sorry just noticed the entire message, I really need to get a better irc client
[04:07] <Roy_Ubuntu_13-04> pfifo would this work "if [ -f $Installed1 | -f $Installed2  ]" that way as long as one of them are true?
[04:08] <Roy_Ubuntu_13-04> Or should | be 'or' , Or what?
[04:08] <alcabs> anyone please help i have problem, catalyst control center is missing after installation of beta drivers
[04:09] <pfifo> Roy_Ubuntu_13-04: I had a feeling you were going to ask that, here is how autoconf/automake would do this in a ./configure script... http://fpaste.org/44454/13809461/
[04:10] <Roy_Ubuntu_13-04> sweet thanks
[04:11] <pfifo> Roy_Ubuntu_13-04: there is a way to iterate over the values in $PATH as well, I forget how todo it though, but that is what a configure script would actually do
[04:11] <Equinox3> LiENUS: is this on a clean install
[04:11] <Equinox3> if not check startup applications and see what run on startup. maybe removing some things you don't need can speed things up
[04:11] <Roy_Ubuntu_13-04> could u help me out with that
[04:12] <pfifo> Roy_Ubuntu_13-04: no, im not going to look it up
[04:12] <Roy_Ubuntu_13-04> ok
[04:12] <pfifo> Roy_Ubuntu_13-04: it would be far quicker for my to write a python app for you then to learn some forgotten bash
[04:12]  * pfifo goes to smoke
[04:13] <LLckfan> I have a Gateway laptop and when I opened the lid the power light was on but the laptop was asleep. When I pushed the power it started flashing with the lights for the light bulb and the battery but only when it was plugged in. Is this a sign I need a new tip end for my charger?
[04:13] <alcabs> no one help wew
[04:13] <Roy_Ubuntu_13-04> would the python app be a binary or like a script/readible
[04:14] <alcabs> can i ask what is the support chat room for ubuntu?
[04:15] <reisio> alcabs: this channel here
[04:15] <reisio> Roy_Ubuntu_13-04: python apps are usually interpreted
[04:15] <reisio> Roy_Ubuntu_13-04: not compiled (binary)
[04:15] <LiENUS> Equinox3, clean install
[04:15] <alcabs> reisio can you help me
[04:16] <Roy_Ubuntu_13-04> thanks
[04:16] <LiENUS> like i said its just unity that sucks, gnome fallback works great
[04:16] <reisio> Roy_Ubuntu_13-04: you can make them run a lot faster by having them just-in-time compiled, which is sort of inbetween
[04:16] <reisio> Roy_Ubuntu_13-04: more at #python
[04:16] <reisio> alcabs: maybe, what's up?
[04:16] <Zantos> Ezea = $IRCNAME
[04:16] <LiENUS> i'm guessing its poor 3d driver support... or possibly the 64 bit drivers are not working right for my gpu
[04:16] <TheStuntman> anyone mind giving me a hand with my sed issue?
[04:16] <fancyfetus> My mom threw away the original windows cds that came with my laptop :'(
[04:16] <alcabs> reiseo how to fix catalyst control center missinf after installing beta driver
[04:16] <fancyfetus> Is this an acceptable time to pirate windows 7?
[04:17] <LiENUS> fancyfetus, windows 7 laptops dont come with cds
[04:17] <fancyfetus> yes they do...
[04:17] <LiENUS> since when?
[04:17] <reisio> fancyfetus: what do you need it for?
[04:17] <LiENUS> you have to pay extra for them
[04:17] <reisio> TheStuntman: which issue?
[04:17] <fancyfetus> LiENUS, they come with windows and the original drivers.
[04:17] <TheStuntman> reisio: so wondered if anyone would mind giving me a hand here, I've tried both grep and sed and sed seems to way to go but I just can't seem to get the syntax right. I'm trying to delete a specific line after a file is created because its using a ls to generate a playlist. But I don't want the bash script to be in that list. So I'm trying sed
[04:17] <fancyfetus> they came with all three of the laptops that I purchased.
[04:18] <LiENUS> fancyfetus, typically nowadays they come with a tool to burn those recovery cds or a recovery partition
[04:18] <fancyfetus> reisio, to install it on my computer :P
[04:18] <LiENUS> i just bought two dell laptops that arrived on the 25th
[04:18] <reisio> TheStuntman: okay, can you pastebin an excerpt with the before you have and the after you want?
[04:18] <LiENUS> neither one came with any cds
[04:18] <pfifo> Roy_Ubuntu_13-04: im not writing a python app for you anyway... youll never learn anything like that
[04:18] <TheStuntman> yeah sure thing give me a second
[04:18] <reisio> fancyfetus: you want to install Windows?
[04:18] <Roy_Ubuntu_13-04> aew man
[04:18] <fancyfetus> LiENUS, maybe it's a new thing? The laptops I'm talking about are at least a year old.
[04:18] <alcabs> THANKS FOR ALL YOUR HELP.............
[04:19] <fancyfetus> reisio, yes sir. I installed ubuntu over everything and now i'm plagued with error upon error.
[04:19] <mdh> you're welcome alcabs
[04:19] <fancyfetus> So many that I can't even list them all without accidentally leaving one out.
[04:19] <reisio> fancyfetus: ah
[04:19] <fancyfetus> Not blaming ubuntu.
[04:19] <TheStuntman> reisio: Before http://pastebin.com/d3Z9YcFq
[04:19] <fancyfetus> It's most likely my fault completely
[04:19] <TheStuntman> reisio: After http://pastebin.com/cwauNFaG
[04:19] <pfifo> TheStuntman: try "ls | grep -v myscript.sh"
[04:20] <TheStuntman> pfifo: Don't I need to indicate a file for grep to search?
[04:20] <reisio> TheStuntman: yeah, what pfifo said will work
[04:20] <reisio> TheStuntman: if you're doing ls dir/, you can make it ls dir/ | grep -v 'gen.sh'
[04:21] <pfifo> TheStuntman: pipe the output of ls into grep (yes your still specifying a file here, the file is STDIN)
[04:21] <reisio> well you're still specifying stdin :)
[04:21] <TheStuntman> pfifo: this is what I'm currently using to create the playlist
[04:21] <TheStuntman> ls -d $PWD/* > playlist.txt
[04:21] <TheStuntman> so I guess I'm not understanding how to pipe the grep into the ls
[04:21] <reisio> TheStuntman: I'd use find
[04:22] <pfifo> ls -d $PWD/* | grep -v nameofscript.sh > playlist.txt
[04:22] <reisio> find foo/ -iname '*.mp3' -o -iname '*.flac'
[04:22] <reisio> find foo/ -iname '*.mp3' -o -iname '*.flac' > foo.m3u
[04:22] <pfifo> TheStuntman: or maybe try this? 'ls *.mp3 > playlist.m3u'
[04:22] <reisio> not that grep -v isn't worth knowing :)
[04:22] <TheStuntman> oh thats perfect reisio that actually rejects the need for the grep
[04:22] <reisio> and yeah you can just match the files you want in the first place, too
[04:23] <TheStuntman> ls might work too XD
[04:23] <reisio> find would be better for directorIES
[04:23] <pfifo> nothing like over thinking a problem... reisio way will search subfolders too for multi CD albums
[04:24] <TheStuntman> so which direction would be the best to go here then?
[04:24] <pfifo> find
[04:24] <TheStuntman> awesome, thanks alot guys, this solves a few problems
[04:24] <reisio> TheStuntman: it all depends :p
[04:24] <LiENUS> 13.10 is due on what the 17th?
[04:24] <reisio> what's nice about find is if you have to you can use -exec with it, and avoid issues with strange filename characters
[04:24] <TheStuntman> not to figure out how to figure out a applications pid number to send a kill sighup
[04:24] <reisio> but you don't necessarily have that problem
[04:25] <TheStuntman> ^now
[04:25] <reisio> now :p
[04:25] <reisio> LiENUS: I heard that
[04:25] <reisio> !13.10
[04:25] <reisio> kwazang
[04:25] <LiENUS> ah neet
[04:25] <LiENUS> thanks
[04:25] <TheStuntman> yeah its getting late for me and my typing fingers are being silly lol
[04:25] <LiENUS> and im assuming its possible for it to be a few days late
[04:25] <vak> i have neither cd-drive nor usb-stick and would like to install ubuntu on a parallel partition that i've just created from Windows 8. What is the fastest way to get through? UNetBootIn?
[04:25] <pfifo> TheStuntman: 'pidof <app name>'
[04:26] <TheStuntman> is there a way I can print that to a variable?
[04:26] <TheStuntman> so that I can use it in a kill sighup?
[04:26] <reisio> LiENUS: I s'pose, but that would be pretty silly of them
[04:26] <pfifo> myvar=`pidof <app name>`
[04:26] <TheStuntman> oh beautiful pfifo
[04:26] <reisio> vak: the fastest way... is probably to get out of your chair and spend $1 on a USB stick
[04:27] <pfifo> kill -sSIGHUP `pidof <appname>
[04:27] <reisio> or find one in corporate trash
[04:27] <vak> reisio: sounds funny, but it is 6:30 here in Germany
[04:27] <LiENUS> reisio, eh well release dates can get pushed back
[04:27] <reisio> vak: am?
[04:27] <vak> reisio: yep
[04:28] <reisio> you can probably get them at gas stations
[04:28] <LLckfan> I have a Gateway laptop and when I opened the lid the power light was on but the laptop was asleep. When I pushed the power it started flashing with the lights for the light bulb and the battery but only when it was plugged in. Is this a sign I need a new tip end for my charger?
[04:28] <TheStuntman> so something like this guys?
[04:28] <pfifo> dollar general has them, $12 for an 8GB
[04:28] <TheStuntman> thepid=`pidof ezstream` kill SIGHUP $thepid
[04:28] <vak> reisio: so, the situation is THAT much without good alternatives?..
[04:29] <reisio> TheStuntman: if you're going to reuse it over and over
[04:29] <TheStuntman> sure am
[04:29] <reisio> TheStuntman: otherwise just kill SIGHUP $(pidof eztream)
[04:29] <reisio> ah okay :p
[04:29] <pfifo> TheStuntman: that pretty much the same as 'killall SIGHUP eztream'
[04:29] <TheStuntman> the command is going to basically go through, refresh the playlist.txt with the new files, then send a command to exstream to refresh the playlist in memory
[04:29] <TheStuntman> ^ezstream
[04:33] <LennyJr> i did something to my audio controller, im going to paste the results of lspci -v | grep -A7 -i "audio, so someonecan tell me how to fix it
[04:34] <TheStuntman> ok so! tried running my command and got this
[04:34] <TheStuntman> ./gen.sh: line 6: kill: SIGHUP: arguments must be process or job IDs
[04:34] <pfifo> TheStuntman: its 'kill -s SIGHUP 666' not 'kill SIGHUP 666'
[04:35] <pfifo> -s
[04:35] <LennyJr> Multimedia audio controller: Creative Labs SB Audigy (rev 04)	Flags: medium devsel, IRQ 255	I/O ports at e000 [disabled] [size=64]	Expansion ROM at <ignored> [disabled by cmd]	Capabilities: <access denied>	Kernel modules: snd-emu10k1
[04:35]  * TheStuntman face desks
[04:35] <TheStuntman> I can't believe I missed the -s lol
[04:35] <Crazyzurfer> hey guys, just installed ubuntu and changed the desktop's background image, but the app launcher keeps having this  purple tone, is there a way to remove that tone and just leave it semi-transparent?
[04:36] <TheStuntman> that worked it
[04:37] <Dr_Willis> Crazyzurfer:  i belive the left side panel changes to match the wallpaper some how. some of the unofficial ubuntu tweaking tools i think can change the setting
[04:37] <TheStuntman> thanks alot guys, you saved me a ton of headaches XD
[04:39] <kriskropd> I was running 'tail -f /var/log/pgl/pgld.log' for a couple days and then eventually it just stopped updating - the tail process jsut stopped pulling from the file or something - anyone here know anything about it? I have a workaround in mind that involves a while loop and a timeout command, but I'm curious why it's halting in the first place. I suspect it's a buffer/cache issue
[04:40] <zhaotongxue> do you have eat?
[04:41] <reisio> zhaotongxue: eat?
[04:41] <zhaotongxue> lunch
[04:41] <Dr_Willis> eating chow mein right now. ;)
[04:41] <pfifo> cold pizza
[04:41] <zhaotongxue> o haha
[04:41] <zhaotongxue> noodles
[04:41] <reisio> I had lasagne earlier
[04:41] <Dr_Willis> but is there a support question amoung the noodly goodness?
[04:42] <reisio> 10 pts if you know what ramen is made of
[04:42] <zhaotongxue> nono
[04:42] <Dr_Willis> 'fried goodness'
[04:42] <zhaotongxue> i have install mysql on ubuntu
[04:42] <zhaotongxue> but now
[04:42] <zhaotongxue> i can't connection  it
[04:42] <zhaotongxue> ERROR 2002 (HY000): Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld' (13)
[04:42] <zhaotongxue> this
[04:42] <Jordana-Watson> Hello guys, my ubuntu 12.04 uses most of my bandwidth. I have turned off updates and not opened any browser.. How can I fix this,
[04:43] <Jordana-Watson> somebody plz help
[04:43] <Jordana-Watson> zhaotongxue: use lampp
[04:43] <pfifo> kriskropd: the log got rotated, and tail is still looking at the old file descriptor
[04:43] <pfifo> kriskropd: read the manual
[04:43] <zhaotongxue> what's "lampp"?
[04:43] <Dr_Willis> !lamp
[04:44] <zhaotongxue> command?
[04:44] <Dr_Willis> Jordana-Watson:  use some tool and monitor whats accessing the network perhaps?
[04:44] <Dr_Willis> !info ntop
[04:45] <Jordana-Watson> Dr_Willis: let me try
[04:45] <otak> iftop is nice too
[04:45] <Dr_Willis> !info iftop
[04:45] <Dr_Willis> even better-er :)
[04:46] <zhaotongxue> i had some things just now
[04:46] <zhaotongxue> i had some things just now
[04:46] <zhaotongxue> i had some things just now
[04:46] <pfifo> sure is better-er, a savings of 1554kb
[04:46] <FloodBot1> zhaotongxue: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:46] <zhaotongxue> sorry
[04:46] <zhaotongxue> it's a 意外
[04:47] <Dr_Willis> those letters look like little chicken scratches to me. ;)  Unicode rocks :)
[04:47] <[SKT]_RORY> Question marks here, my terminal didn't even try
[04:48] <Dr_Willis> wonder if weechat has some script to let me use other fancy chaccters. ;)
[04:48] <pfifo> i hope not
[04:49] <Dr_Willis> those #'s in a circle were nifty earlier. ;) not seen those befor
[04:49] <[SKT]_RORY> Dr_Willis: emojii for weechat... go in #weechat and ask them and see what happens
[04:52] <LLckfan> I have a Gateway laptop and when I opened the lid the power light was on but the laptop was asleep. When I pushed the power it started flashing with the lights for the light bulb and the battery but only when it was plugged in. Is this a sign I need a new tip end for my charger?
[04:52] <Dr_Willis> ;)
[04:52] <Dr_Willis> ⱺ_ɵ
[04:53] <[SKT]_RORY> !ot | LLckfan
[04:55] <meh_> hello. My machine takes over 100 seconds to boot. It used to boot much faster before I switched to linux. Would you have any suggestions for reducing this time ?
[04:56] <Dr_Willis> LLckfan:  id ask in #hardware and ive found its ALWAYS a good idea to have a spare charger
[04:56] <Dr_Willis> got a SSD hd here - my 13.10 box boots to the desktop in like 20 sec
[04:57] <Dr_Willis> the bios/post screen takes longer then my bootup
[04:57] <meh_> tell dr_willis How did you get it to do that ?
[04:58] <Dr_Willis> i just installed a solid state drive. :) best investmnent in new hardware id done in years
[04:58] <teosanru> hello, I want to know if I can make two connections boding or internet services provided by the same company?
[04:58] <Dr_Willis> and it wasent that expensive
[04:58] <meh_> Dr willis : can this be done without buying hardware ?
[04:58] <LLckfan> Dr_Willis tHERE IS NO HELP IN ##HARDWARE
[04:59] <meh_> does anyone know how to read bootcharts ?
[04:59] <pfifo> meh_: dont reboot... you dont have to in linux
[04:59] <teosanru> hello, I want to know if I can make two connections boding or internet services provided by the same company?
[04:59] <Dr_Willis> teosanru:  you mean 'bonding' ?
[05:00] <meh_> pfifo_: what do you mean ?
[05:00] <vak> !log
[05:00] <Dr_Willis> meh_:  some of my linux machines have month+ of uptime - rarely need to reboot them
[05:01] <pfifo> meh_: no you cant speed up the boot process, however, linux is very stable and can be run for months at a time without having to shut down
[05:01] <meh_> Dr_Willis_:  So would one leave a machine in hibernate or sleep ?
[05:02] <pfifo> meh_: neither, just log out
[05:02] <Ari-Yang> 01:02:10 up 1 day, 13:15, 3 users, load average: 0.16, 0.29, 0.23
[05:02] <Ari-Yang> I rarely turn off my laptop, I just close it, meh_.
[05:02] <meh_> pfifo_: but I've heard of things to change with grub, and splash, and reading bootcharts. Wouldn't just logging out wear on a machine and use power ?
[05:04] <pfifo> meh_: so what if grub changes? it dosent require a reboot, who needs a splash if you never rebooting? keeping your machine warm is better that hot/cold cycles. and if your worried about power make sure to spin down your disks
[05:05] <Dr_Willis> meh_:  i tend to leave mine runnning.. or powered off.. i rarely use sleep or hibernate
[05:05] <meh_> dr_willis_ pfifo_ interesting. I guess with windows and macs one always shuts down...
[05:05] <LiENUS> pfifo, i cant figure out how to spin down my disk
[05:05] <Dr_Willis> actually i rarely shut down the windows machines either. ;)
[05:06] <pfifo> LiENUS: should be in the screensaver settings
[05:06] <Dr_Willis> My disks spin down automatically- ive not had to touch anything
[05:06] <LennyJr> SO who knows how i fix my soundcard thats disabled?
[05:06] <LiENUS> pfifo, yeah i dunno
[05:06] <pfifo> Dr_Willis: does you new ssd spin down XD
[05:06] <Dr_Willis> well at least the external ones do.. Not sure about the internal.. its a SSD ;P
[05:06] <LiENUS> i dont think my disk can be spun down
[05:06] <LennyJr> i disabled it by an ubuntu builtin called alsamixer
[05:06] <meh_> pfifo_ what is spin down a disk (sorry, still new to linux and computers in general)
[05:06] <LiENUS> some intel 335 series 80gb
[05:07] <pfifo> meh_: I think it happens by default
[05:07] <Dr_Willis> meh_:  you dont use the disk for a while. it stops spinning and goes into a parked position
[05:07] <Dr_Willis> but when you do go to use it again. it will take a moment or 2 to spin up and may make some noises
[05:07] <meh_> okay. It stops making noise....
[05:08] <meh_> So other than just not rebooting, no suggestions on reducing startup time ? For example, is it okay to transport a laptop that is not turned off ?
[05:08] <Dr_Willis> It gets weird these days when you get a Fanless, SSD based pc going.. with No Noise whatsoever.
[05:08] <pfifo> meh_: computers dont use much power anyway when your afk... only when your gaming or mining bitcoins
[05:08] <Dr_Willis> meh_:  id turn it off befor moveing
[05:08] <Dr_Willis> or sleep/suspend/hibernate
[05:09] <pfifo> meh_: starting up from suspend is pretty quick
[05:09] <LennyJr> i only know how to break linux, not fix it :)
[05:09] <LiENUS> starting up from power off is pretty quick for me
[05:09] <LiENUS>  a few seconds
[05:09] <teosanru> Dr wills  hello, I want to know if I can make two connections boding or internet services provided by the same company?
[05:09] <Dr_Willis> even my netbook boots to xubuntu rather quickly
[05:09] <meh_> But how ?
[05:10] <meh_> I mean, My machine under OSX would start up fast.
[05:10] <Dr_Willis> teosanru:  'boding' makes no sence to me. You mean 'BOND' 2 connections into one faster connection?
[05:10] <LennyJr> not even a seasoned linux professional could  enable my soundcard again
[05:10] <meh_> But with  xubuntu it takes a long time!
[05:10] <Dr_Willis> could be OS-X is cheating.
[05:10] <Dr_Willis> ;PO
[05:10] <Dr_Willis> I dont use apple hardware
[05:10] <LiENUS> ssd makes booting instant
[05:11] <LiENUS> teosanru, your isp would have to support mlppp or something like it
[05:11] <Dr_Willis> i need an external USB SSD ;)
[05:11] <teosanru> yes Dr wills
[05:11] <LiENUS> most dont
[05:11] <teosanru> yes, if I want to add two internet connections
[05:11] <meh_> Dr_Willis_ Yeah, some things aren't so compatible (ex. webcam due isight firmware)
[05:11] <LiENUS> there are solutions to take advantage of multiple connections  though
[05:11] <LiENUS> it'll speed up multiple downloads but not single stream downloads
[05:11] <LennyJr> all newbs like me cant do it... i tried this to enable it.. lspci -v | grep A& -i "audio"
[05:11] <pfifo> meh_: I find my windows install only takes a few seconds to show the desktop, but to actually get things going and logged onto freenode takes a few minutes... its definatly cheating.
[05:11] <reisio> usb sticks are pretty high capacity these days, for cheap
[05:11] <LiENUS> round robin and the like
[05:12] <meh_> pfifo_ true. When xubuntu is ready. it's ready
[05:12] <pfifo> meh_: on the other hand, as soon as ubuntu shows the loging prompt its done, good to go
[05:12] <meh_> That said - is 100 seconds normal for startup time?
[05:13] <pfifo> meh_: seems average for a slower machine
[05:14] <teosanru> lienus,
[05:14] <teosanru> I have two internet connections on the same ISP. each of 20 megs and I want to add them as if they were a single Connection, somebody could say if this is possible in ubuntu 13.04?
[05:14] <selig5>  meh: Less than two minutes doesn't seem too bad.
[05:15] <meh_> pfifo_ okay
[05:15] <LiENUS> teosanru, not unless your isp supports mlppp
[05:15] <LiENUS> you could do something similar
[05:15] <LiENUS> but it wont give you a 40mb link it'll give you two 20 mbit links
[05:15] <LiENUS> so you could be downloading two different streams at 20mbit
[05:15] <LiENUS> but not a single 40mbit stream
[05:16] <teosanru> I do not speak English, so I'm using translator slow to respond, I am speaking Spanish.
[05:17] <Dr_Willis> i think weechat has a google-translate script
[05:17] <Dr_Willis> !es | teosanru
[05:17] <teosanru> lienus:
[05:20] <teosanru> I have two 20 meg connection and I want to add them to get 40 in one PC
[05:20] <teosanru> hi lienus
[05:21] <teosanru> hola
[05:21] <Fleep_> I'm running server 13.04, and of the life of me I can't understand why my Apache2 install is using /var/www as it's document root despite my VirtualHost directives. There is no reference to /var/www as a DocumentRoot anywhere under /etc/apache2
[05:21] <Fleep_> It's kinda driving me crazy
[05:21] <raven1> Hi. Does anyone here think there's a reason that Ubuntu runs differently, as in glitchy, when it's installed via Wubi.exe?
[05:22] <reisio> raven1: many reasons
[05:22] <raven1> reisio, so it's not just me.
[05:22] <raven1> reisio, explain
[05:23] <reisio> ordinarily with wubi you end up with a system that is installed into a _file_ on Windows' NTFS file system
[05:23] <reisio> for starters, that is quite a disadvantage
[05:23] <raven1> because NTFS is less effective?
[05:24] <raven1> Or is it just that since it's actually installed inside the windows partition things aren't seamless
[05:24] <wilee-nilee> raven1, The designer of wubi themselves said it was a tryout option not for longterm use.
[05:24] <raven1> wilee-nilee, i see
[05:25] <wilee-nilee> some have no choice though, so it works for them. raven1
[05:26] <raven1> So if I want to dual boot, should I install a fresh Ubuntu first, use gparted to free up unallocated space, pop in the windows setup disk, install to the unallocated space, then use easyBCD to reinstate grub
[05:26] <teosanru> #ubuntu-es
[05:26] <teosanru> hola
[05:27] <Roy_Ubuntu_13-04> how can one script make another with an echo .. so echo "echo "read me" " >> file or what?
[05:27] <datanet> raven1 that works. Personally I like to install windows first and let Ubuntu setup handle the bootloader.
[05:27] <Ari-Yang> afaik it's easier to install windows first, raven1
[05:27] <raven1> datanet if I do it that way, will windows setup let me make a partition that doesn't comprise the whole drive?
[05:28] <reisio> Roy_Ubuntu_13-04: foo $(foo)
[05:28] <raven1> or will I have to use the windows utility to resize partition
[05:28] <Roy_Ubuntu_13-04> heh
[05:28] <datanet> raven1 do you have a partition already on the drive you do not want to erase?
[05:29] <raven1> datanet well, yes, actually, though I've resolved to erase it if I have to
[05:29] <Roy_Ubuntu_13-04> echo $(echo "read this") >> file ???
[05:29] <Roy_Ubuntu_13-04> reisio?
[05:30] <datanet> raven1 Windows 7 and I assume 8 installer lets you setup your partitions. So using that you should be able to leave that partition in place.
[05:30] <raven1> datanet the thing is right now I have a mint partition that's 340 gb, and an ubuntu partition that's 117 gb. The one I don't want to lose is the mint partition, but grub is on the ubuntu partition
[05:30] <reisio> Roy_Ubuntu_13-04: oh
[05:30] <h1n1> Raven1 and why you need win7?
[05:30] <reisio> Roy_Ubuntu_13-04: just echo 'echo "read this"' >> file
[05:30] <h1n1> :3
[05:31] <themoebius> Hey, I'm trying to add a user account on an ubuntu server that can sudo. I've added it to the sudo group but when I try sudo apt-get update it still asks for a password. This user account doesn't have a password.
[05:31] <datanet> So you want to install windows over the Ubuntu partition. You can use EasyBCD or do it manually with a Ubuntu* live cd
[05:31] <Roy_Ubuntu_13-04> im having one script to make another that also has echo's
[05:31] <h1n1> Themoebius  set password to that user
[05:31] <raven1> h1n1 eve online.
[05:31] <datanet> raven1 ^ to reinstall your boot partition.
[05:31] <h1n1> +1 raven1 :)
[05:31] <themoebius> h1n1: it intentionally doesn't have a password - it uses public key authentication
[05:32] <raven1> h1n1 tried it in wine but it doesn't work and plus I have serious hardware and I wanna be able to take advantage of it
[05:32] <themoebius> How do I make it so it doesn't require a password to sudo
[05:32] <Roy_Ubuntu_13-04> ok cool thanks, got it
[05:32] <Ben64> themoebius: just because it doesn't need a password to ssh in doesn't mean it doesn't have a password
[05:32] <peterrooney> themoebius: an account can use PKA and still have a password
[05:32] <presonic> currently on a box with a duel boot windows7/ubuntu installation, going to completely reinstall windows7 (to win8), will probably overwrite the boot sector, what's the best way to recover grub so i can duel boot again?
[05:32] <raven1> datanet, I tried this, but apparently the mint partition is the primary and windows doesn't want to install to a non primary
[05:33] <h1n1> Raven1 install windows on whatever partition you have, and use ubuntu live cd and reinstall bootloader
[05:33] <reisio> presonic: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[05:33] <presonic> k
[05:33] <datanet> raven1 ah I see. I'll look around unless someone else knows but I never had to mess with that.
[05:33] <raven1> windows refuses to install on the available partitions
[05:33] <h1n1> Raven1 that's sound like windows problem, microsoft should be able to help you ツ
[05:33] <raven1> LOL
[05:33] <h1n1> Hehehehehhee
[05:34] <reisio> you need what... two primary partitions, and 20GB of space?
[05:34] <raven1> h1n1 I hope that was a joke
[05:34] <h1n1> I always serious
[05:34] <raven1> reisio I need two primary partitions and that's it
[05:34] <raven1> and I guess swap space but I don't even know what that is or how it works honestly
[05:34] <h1n1> Themoebius put NOPASSWD in sudoers file of your sudo group
[05:35] <h1n1> Ie %wheel ALL=(ALL) NOPASSWD: ALL
[05:36] <themoebius> h1n1: right now I have:      web     ALL=(ALL:ALL) ALL     in my sudoers
[05:36] <awaad> I have Ubuntu 13.04 installed. When I run "ls -l" on any directory it gives me the month name in Arabic. Any one can help to make it only English ?
[05:36] <Ben64> why does everyone insist that its the "wheel" group? wheel does not exist on ubuntu.
[05:36] <h1n1> Because i'm using archlinux
[05:36] <Ben64> well this is #ubuntu
[05:36] <h1n1> That doesnt mean I cannot help ubuntu ppl ツ
[05:37] <raven1> isn't arch like fedora
[05:37] <h1n1> It just an example and pls dont restrict yourself ... Learn linux not ubuntu
[05:37] <TonyFlury> hi - am i in the right place to ask about adding custom widgets to Glade ?
[05:37] <raven1> arch = not debian?
[05:37] <sam113101> "what if we reinvent the wheel?" "YES, let's call it sudo!"
[05:37] <Ben64> doesn't matter, its #ubuntu so everything here should be Ubuntu support
[05:37] <h1n1> Hahahaha
[05:38] <h1n1> Raven1 more reading in man sudoers
[05:38] <h1n1> Web     ALL=(ALL:ALL) NOPASSWD: ALL
[05:38] <h1n1> You can try without capital in Web
[05:39] <Crazyzurfer> how do I add a ppa source to my ubuntu's software center?
[05:39] <Ben64> !ppa | Crazyzurfer
[05:39] <awaad> Any one can help, please ?
[05:39] <raven1> crazysurfer sudo add-apt
[05:39] <raven1> crazysurfer sudo add-apt-repository*
[05:39] <TonyFlury> anyone able to help with glade ?
[05:39] <Crazyzurfer> !addppa
[05:40] <teosanru> hello, again someone can solve my doubt that so I can add two 20 Mb connections in ubuntu 13.04? in order to 40Mb download since I went to the room in Spanish but no one answers. I appreciate your answers
[05:40] <h1n1> Does it help raven1 ?
[05:41] <raven1> h1n1 does what help
[05:41] <h1n1> Put nopasswd tag in sudoer file
[05:41] <h1n1> Oh wrong person
[05:41] <raven1> why do that?
[05:41] <raven1> lmao
[05:41] <teosanru> hello, again someone can solve my doubt that so I can add two 20 Mb connections in ubuntu 13.04? in order to 40Mb download since I went to the room in Spanish but no one answers. I appreciate your answers
[05:41] <h1n1> I should go back on my weed now
[05:41] <h1n1> Sorry for that raven1 ;p
[05:42] <h1n1> Brb
[05:42] <TonyFlury> teosanru - it depends on a lot of things - including your router - I don't think that Ubuntu on it's own will bind two 20M connections into a single 40M connection  - but a router might be able to
[05:42] <raven1> I didn't think that would help me repartition my drive
[05:42] <datanet> raven1 I'd say use Gparted and delete the Ubuntu partition (After you've backed up what you need) and make a new partition and mark it as primary.
[05:42] <raven1> datanet does gparted let you do that?
[05:42] <h1n1> Yes this a problem using old crt monitor
[05:42] <datanet> raven1 Do that if you know how to reinstall the bootloader. Just in case.
[05:42] <datanet> raven1 Yes in the create partition section.
[05:43] <datanet> raven1 You can have up to 4 primary partitions in 1 drive.
[05:43] <raven1> datanet well normally I'd reinstall the bootloader via ubuntu live CD. but if windows is taking up that space then idk.
[05:43] <Ben64> !grub | raven1
[05:44] <raven1> thank you ben64
[05:44] <Roy_Ubuntu_13-04>  datanet: raven1: i'd say if u going to be doing that get something like system rescue cd , it boots fast and gas gparted and other hdd utils
[05:44] <teosanru> Tony, second had read online in ubuntu could be done, but I also say that with a router, that means you would have to buy a router and connect the two connections to the? no more configurations would be needed?
[05:45] <raven1> I have another question
[05:45] <TonyFlury> teosanru - it depends what your router presents to your PC - if your router presents a single connection then you should be ok.
[05:46] <raven1> Does anyone know this. On LM13 I use compiz as my window manager, and it uses metacity as its window decorator. Does it work the same way in Ubuntu 12.04?
[05:47] <h1n1> See you guys
[05:48] <TonyFlury> !quit
[05:48] <kristal> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=923590 I hope Canonical agrees with this ticket.
[05:48] <reisio> why would they...
[05:49] <kristal> reisio: The industry has to be opposed to HTML DRM, it's a nightmareish can of worms
[05:50] <reisio> not any more than drm in general is
[05:57] <thinknow> what would the commands for making another user(lets say john) how can i get john to start openvpn with sudo /etc/init.d/openvpn start -> Type n password -> Change dns > or do this automatically on startup
[05:58] <PUPU> HI ubuntu guys! do you have a level 4 remaster tool?
[05:58] <thinknow> cant find any good material on this, just jabber
[05:58] <[SKT]_RORY> thinknow: Put it in a script
[05:59] <[SKT]_RORY> thinknow: I might not understand what you're asking though
[06:01] <Ownix> thinknow: im confused as to what 'john' needs to do exactly
[06:02] <TJ-> thinknow: "man sudoers" - add a rule that allows 'john' to only run the desired commands, with or without a password, as root
[06:03] <Dr_Willis> thinknow:  you  can run commands as specific users at boot time via 'su' in the /etc/rc.local script.
[06:03] <Dr_Willis> to allow the user to do the command at any time. that would be the sudoers file :)
[06:04] <Dr_Willis> and you would most likely do 'sudo service openvpn start' not the /etc/init.d/whatever start   type command.
[06:04] <TJ-> thinknow: Alternatively, if what you really want is to have openvpn create a VPN at boot-time as a system service, simply create the appropriate openvpn client connection definition in /etc/openvpn/ and make sure openvpn isn't disabled. By default if installed it will start at boot. See also "/etc/default/openvpn" for defining which configurations to start automatically.
[06:05] <TJ-> thinknow: I assume you've already issued the client with an SSL certificate and had the openvpn server's CA sign it, and shared the CA.crt to the client, and possibly the TA.key if you're using UDP (as is the default)
[06:07] <cathode> hi
[06:08] <LiENUS> hmm moving from amd64 ubuntu to i686 ubuntu seems to have fixed my unity performance problems
[06:08] <reisio> cathode: hi
[06:10] <kristal> LiENUS: Unity runs much better using xorg edgers graphics drivers for me
[06:11] <LiENUS> kristal, i'm guessing the amd64 drivers for my card either arent working or just have performance issues
[06:11] <kristal> LiENUS: What GPU?
[06:12] <LiENUS> lspci says an amd nee ATI RS482/RS485 radeon xpress 1100/1150
[06:12] <Roy_Ubuntu_13-04> in a bash script how can i remove a folder ONLY if its empty
[06:13] <reisio> Roy_Ubuntu_13-04: rmdir
[06:13] <Roy_Ubuntu_13-04> so if there is anything in it it wont remove it
[06:13] <reisio> indeed, try it
[06:14] <reisio> LiENUS: I doubt it
[06:15] <LiENUS> reisio, doubt what?
[06:15] <Roy_Ubuntu_13-04> how could i protect aginst if on a system there is an alies .. a-lee-es .. cant spell .. that would do rm -R for just rm
[06:16] <reisio> LiENUS: it has anything in particular to do with the arch
[06:16] <LiENUS> reisio, performance under i686 is far better than the same install under amd64...
[06:16] <cathode> hey guys any suggestions on what I should run to use ubuntu as a MS RDP terminal server?
[06:16] <reisio> Roy_Ubuntu_13-04: rm --
[06:16] <reisio> Roy_Ubuntu_13-04: probably
[06:16] <reisio> let's test it
[06:17] <CcCom> What is more stable lts or 13.10
[06:17] <PUPU> lts
[06:17] <reisio> Roy_Ubuntu_13-04: nope :)
[06:18] <reisio> Roy_Ubuntu_13-04: using the full path should suffice
[06:18] <Roy_Ubuntu_13-04> well reisio so what was the outcome
[06:18] <reisio> $(which rm)
[06:19] <reisio> but I'm not sure you should really bother
[06:19] <reisio> if people do silly things like alias core utils on their end, that's their problem
[06:20] <Roy_Ubuntu_13-04> this is a script that needs to be very carefull with the data, and the data will be going between machines
[06:20] <Roy_Ubuntu_13-04> in the future anyway
[06:21] <reisio> there's not any amount of carefulness that can account for people doing stupid things with their system
[06:21] <reisio> if you want to be that careful, just prompt them for each deletion
[06:23] <Roy_Ubuntu_13-04> see when it comes to deleting , if there is anything, they will not want to delete it, and be warned to take sertin mesures before using this script, but if the folder is empty then its fine to delete
[06:23] <Roy_Ubuntu_13-04> reisio^
[06:24] <reisio> it's hard to imagine someone being upset over the removal of an empty directory
[06:24] <reisio> which is all rmdir does
[06:25] <reisio> I run 'rmdir *' regularly enough in various places, just to get rid of empty dirs
[06:25] <Roy_Ubuntu_13-04> no if empty they will not be upset, but if there is a single file in the dir, they will be pissed off
[06:25] <reisio> well then it wouldn't be empty
[06:25] <reisio> and rmdir would fail
[06:26] <[SKT]_RORY> gg
[06:27] <CcCom> I have a geforce GTX 560 TI, how easy will it be to install the drivers on ubuntu 12.04?
[06:28] <Dr_Willis> theres a reason to have backups of everything ;)
[06:28] <reisio> CcCom: you'll probably get a popup immediately after installation, click, click, done
[06:29] <reisio> although you might be happy with the default drivers
[06:29] <Dr_Willis> CcCom:  its not part of a dual gpu optmims system is it?
[06:29] <Roy_Ubuntu_13-04>  reisio is there a way to force rmdir to remove a non-empty dir, and if so, what if for some reason they have an alias to do so, i want to guard aginst that
[06:29] <reisio> Roy_Ubuntu_13-04: nope, removing empty dirs is its sole purpose
[06:30] <reisio> if they've aliased rmdir to remove non-empty dirs, they deserve what they get
[06:30] <Roy_Ubuntu_13-04> is there a way to guard aginst it thow
[06:30] <reisio> sure
[06:30] <reisio> but it wouldn't be worth it
[06:31] <Roy_Ubuntu_13-04> can u tell me
[06:31] <Rory> Roy_Ubuntu_13-04: You can't stop people deleting files they have permission to delete
[06:31] <reisio> use $(which rmdir) instead of just rmdir
[06:31] <Rory> or \rmdar
[06:31] <Rory> \rmdir
[06:31] <Roy_Ubuntu_13-04> for the reason thats a bit much to explane, there is a good reason
[06:32] <Ben64> sounds like a terrible script
[06:32] <Roy_Ubuntu_13-04> thanks Rory
[06:33] <Roy_Ubuntu_13-04> its an awesome script, and respectfull of the data on other machines
[06:33] <reisio> :)
[06:33] <Rory> Roy_Ubuntu_13-04: Then it should check if the directory is empty
[06:34] <Ben64> the whole thing seems extremely hacky. you've been asking basic bash stuff in here for hours
[06:34] <Roy_Ubuntu_13-04> then how to do that, thats what i wanted to do, only remove a dir ONLY if its empty
[06:34] <Ben64> everything from "how to get a user's home directory" to "rmdir"
[06:34] <Ben64> you should find a better way to do what you want
[06:34] <Rory> Ben64: +1
[06:35] <Rory> Roy_Ubuntu_13-04: Rather than asking specific question about your script, why don't you tell us what your overarching goal is here?
[06:35] <Ben64> i mean, i've made my own terrible scripts too, but they are only used by me, not random people
[06:36] <Roy_Ubuntu_13-04> well my script will only be used by my friend, but may be used on random machines, no people
[06:36] <Rory> Roy_Ubuntu_13-04: What does your script do?
[06:37] <Ben64> you could ask in #bash
[06:37] <Roy_Ubuntu_13-04> my friend has very private data that is protected with ecryptfs.......
[06:38] <reisio> imagine that, private data that's encrypted :p
[06:38] <Ben64> so a rickety bash script is the answer?
[06:38] <Rory> Roy_Ubuntu_13-04: What does your script do?
[06:38] <Roy_Ubuntu_13-04> and the "Private" , ".Private" , ".ecryptfs" folders are on a usb drive, not in the home dir ...............
[06:39] <Roy_Ubuntu_13-04> Rory lets say you use ecryptfs as well do i ........
[06:40] <Rory> Roy_Ubuntu_13-04: What I use doesn't affect what you need to do. What does your script do?
[06:41] <Roy_Ubuntu_13-04> well i bring my drive over and u let me use your pc, so i plug my drive in and run the script, then use all my private data from usb, and not harming yours
[06:41] <Roy_Ubuntu_13-04> all behind the seens so no smarts are needed at all
[06:42] <Rory> ...Someone else do this one please
[06:42] <Dr_Willis> thought he had it almost done. ;)
[06:43] <Roy_Ubuntu_13-04> its for my friend that will likely in the future just maybe run into that saniro, and i want to protect his data and his friends from clashing, or between a new and old pc he may have
[06:43] <Ben64> Roy_Ubuntu_13-04: doesn't seem like an ubuntu issue anyway, see if #bash wants to touch it
[06:43] <Dr_Willis> better  tel him to keep backups of tht data somewhere else unencrypted just in case
[06:44] <fancyfetus> Hey guys
[06:44] <vijaya> facing problem while extracting rootstrap: in scratchbox
[06:44] <vijaya> how to solve
[06:44] <vijaya> this issue
[06:44] <fancyfetus> I have an "Error BrokenCount > 0"
[06:45] <fancyfetus> Ubuntu kindly tells me to run apt-get install -f
[06:45] <fancyfetus> but that throws even more errors.
[06:45] <Roy_Ubuntu_13-04> well if \rmdir will stop any alias and use the default, i can work with that ?
[06:45] <Dr_Willis> pastebin the whole session/errors fancyfetus  for the chanel to see
[06:46] <vijaya> fancyfetus: try to run in sudo mode
[06:46] <Ben64> Roy_Ubuntu_13-04: asking for trouble
[06:46] <fancyfetus> http://pastebin.com/7L5R9hAs
[06:46] <Roy_Ubuntu_13-04>  Ben64 so what command doesnt delete, but checks to see if a folder is empty
[06:47] <vijaya> has anyone faced this rootstrap issue
[06:47] <Dr_Willis> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/6162903/temporarily-disabling-an-alias-quoting-a-word-with-a-backslash
[06:47] <Ben64> Roy_Ubuntu_13-04: again, try #bash , this is not really an Ubuntu problem
[06:49] <fancyfetus> Dr_Willis, let me know if you need any additional information
[06:51] <Dr_Willis> fancyfetus:  it dosent seem to like your video drivers package. how have you installed the fglrx drivers in the past?
[06:51] <Dr_Willis> dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/fglrx-updates_2%3a9.012-0ubuntu1_amd64.deb (--unpack):
[06:51] <Dr_Willis>  subprocess new pre-installation script returned error exit status 1
[06:52] <fancyfetus> Dr_Willis, I'm having issues with my current Xorg drivers, so I went to the additional drivers section and selected the fglrx driver
[06:52] <Dr_Willis> perhaps remove/reinstall the package in question
[06:52] <fancyfetus> then it installed that.
[06:53] <Dr_Willis> or it could be it has some other issue with the package  it says   "One or more files have been altered since installation."   not sure what thats really saying in this case
[06:53] <Dr_Willis> unless some other package has altered files in that  fglrx-updates package files
[06:53] <fancyfetus> Xorg is giving me a weird problem. I'm programming something that uses openGL. When I close the program. I get a blackscreen with a blinking cursor and a second later, I'm back at the login page.
[06:54] <Dr_Willis> X is crashing sounds like.
[06:54] <Dr_Willis> and lightdm is restarting it
[06:54] <fancyfetus> Okay, so I'll try removing fglrx-updates
[06:55] <fancyfetus> Okay it tells me which packages have unmet dependencies
[06:55] <fancyfetus> http://pastebin.com/7L5R9hAs
[06:55] <fancyfetus> oops... ignore that.
[06:56] <fancyfetus> fglrx-amdcccle-updates <- has unmet dependencies
[06:57] <helmut_> hi
[06:57] <Dr_Willis> mooo
[06:58] <fancyfetus> Dr_Willis, okay, i removed the package with unmet dependencies
[06:58] <fancyfetus> Which graphics driver should I use?
[06:58] <fancyfetus> I have a Radeon 6400M series with HP switchable graphics
[06:58] <Dr_Willis> the only real options are the open sourced ones of the proparity fglrx ones
[06:58] <Dr_Willis> or the ...
[06:58] <Dr_Willis> I have no idea on how switchable gfx works on ati. I avoid ati whenever possible
[06:59] <fancyfetus> There are a lot of realy long, really hard to follow tutorials around...
[06:59] <Dr_Willis> nvidia and switchable gfs - uses bumblebee - no idea wht the ati-equilivent is
[06:59] <fancyfetus> AMD uses Catalyst
[07:00] <Dr_Willis> but the stitchable part - may be the core of the issue.
[07:00] <Dr_Willis> since that uses intel+the other chips
[07:00] <reisio> switcheroo?
[07:00] <reisio> I don't really follow it
[07:03] <Roy_Ubuntu_13-04> how can have the script expect a certin reply and if it dont get it then dont continue... Are you sure you want to continue, If so please type "yEs" anything else will cancel
[07:03] <sarvsav> hello everyone
[07:03] <reisio> Roy_Ubuntu_13-04: ask #bash
[07:03] <reisio> sarvsav: hi
[07:03] <sarvsav> reisio: hi
[07:04] <sarvsav> i have a doubt,
[07:04] <Dr_Willis> Roy_Ubuntu_13-04:  you may want to go read the 'advanced bash scripting guide' it covers verything you have been aking about
[07:04] <Dr_Willis> !abs | Roy_Ubuntu_13-04
[07:04] <rubic> I just started using dwb instead of firefox and I want to check that is has the same level of security as the major browsers, cant seem to find any info on the subject.
[07:05] <sarvsav> my question is : i have a machine with no X11 environment as server, and on that i have configured X11 forwarding on, and i have a client with X11 environment running ubuntu
[07:05] <reisio> rubic: it has a webkit backend
[07:05] <sarvsav> If i start the ssh session with my server, as ssh -X user@server
[07:06] <sarvsav> and gives gedit command . will it work?
[07:06] <Dr_Willis> sarvsav:  it should
[07:06] <Dr_Willis> i always get -x and -X backwards ;)
[07:06] <sarvsav> on my client or local.
[07:06] <reisio> easy way to find out
[07:06] <Dr_Willis> it runs on the server. but is displyed on your local
[07:06] <Dr_Willis> so 'client or local' makes no sence to me ;)
[07:06] <reisio> rubic: uh, webkit being that which is used by Safari (primary Mac OS browser) and Google Chrome :)
[07:07] <Meh> hallo
[07:07] <reisio> rubic: and also basically KDE's Konqueror
[07:07] <Dr_Willis> ssh to server, run xterm, see if you get a xterm poping up
[07:07] <reisio> rubic: should be pretty fair
[07:07] <reisio> Meh: 'lo
[07:07] <Meh> jemand da?
[07:07] <aeon-ltd> deutsche?
[07:07] <rubic> reisio: and does that manage pretty much all of the web browsery bits (https, cookies, etc) not just rendering?
[07:07] <aeon-ltd> !de
[07:08] <reisio> rubic: pretty sure, yeah
[07:08] <reisio> rubic: uses libsoup, too, popular lib
[07:08] <rubic> Ah, thankyou very much. :)
[07:08] <reisio> rubic: if it had known security issues, it wouldn't be in the repos
[07:09] <rubic> yeah fair enogh
[07:09] <rubic> enough*
[07:15] <hp_> how to know if my processor is 32 or 64?
[07:15] <Dr_Willis> any known security issues.. would be like a bug.. and be hopwfully getting worked on.
[07:15] <Dr_Willis> now an unknown security issue....
[07:16] <Dr_Willis> hp_:  i seem to recall a flag in cat /proc/cpuinfo
[07:17] <Dr_Willis> http://askubuntu.com/questions/133111/how-can-i-check-if-my-cpu-is-amd64-compatible/133123#133123
[07:17] <reisio> hp_: grep ' lm' /proc/cpuinfo
[07:18] <workstation6> !List
[07:18] <reisio> grep ' lm' /proc/cpuinfo &> /dev/null && echo "yo dawg, it's 64-bit"
[07:19] <Dr_Willis> willis@1001PXD:~$ lscpu
[07:19] <Dr_Willis> Architecture:          x86_64
[07:19] <Dr_Willis> My netbook is 64bit ;) it seems
[07:20] <hp_> reisio:http://www.picpaste.com/Screenshot_from_2013-10-05_09_19_14-hyk8jQTO.png
[07:20] <reisio> most things are, anymore
[07:20] <reisio> hp_: grep produces output if it finds the string you tell it to look for
[07:20] <Dr_Willis> dual core - such raw powar in a netbook. ;) yea.. right.. heh
[07:20] <reisio> hp_: so it found ' lm', which means your processor is 64-bit
[07:21] <hp_> so i can download ubuntu 13.10 46 bit?
[07:21] <hp_> 64
[07:21] <reisio> hp_: 64-bit yes, go get it
[07:21] <hp_> Dr_Willis , reisio thanks
[07:21] <Dr_Willis> hp_:  unless its a real old machine.. id bet its 64bit
[07:21] <CcCom> Hello!!!
[07:22] <xyzone> arm is the future for netbooks
[07:22] <hp_> Dr_Willis:its core 2 due 2.1 GHz with 2 GB ram
[07:22] <Dr_Willis> arm is supposed tobe  becomign 64bit i belive also.. but we will see what happens
[07:22] <Dr_Willis> i cant keep up with hardware news :) its just to much
[07:23] <CcCom> I have an issue, My pc has Windows 8 on it.  I created a ubuntu usb 12.04. I booted up the computer and installed ubuntu. But when it finished and restarted windows loads up, it doesnt give me the two options. Can anyone help please.
[07:23] <xyzone> either way it won't be x86_64, obviously
[07:23] <Dr_Willis> netbooks may not have much of a future. :)
[07:23] <reisio> they have a future
[07:23] <xyzone> well you can stop calling then netbooks, but that's pretty much what a tablet with a keyboard is
[07:23] <joufflu> Good evening or morning :-)
[07:23] <reisio> but they'll be called laptops or ultrabooks
[07:23] <TJ-> The ARM cortex A57 is due out shortly, from AMD
[07:23] <Dr_Willis> !fixgrub | CcCom
[07:24] <Dr_Willis> UltraUberbooks
[07:24] <hp_> how can i know if my video card VGA is 256 or 512?
[07:24] <reisio> it's unlikely to matter
[07:24] <joufflu> ifconfig
[07:24] <joufflu> hp_: lspci
[07:25] <TJ-> hp_: Try this: sudo lspci -vvvnn -s $(lspci -nn | grep VGA | cut -d" " -f1) | grep 'Memory.* prefetchable'
[07:26] <hp_> joufflu:http://www.picpaste.com/Screenshot_from_2013-10-05_09_25_33-9hcdw7Zt.png
[07:27] <hp_> TJ:Region 2: Memory at 80000000 (64-bit, prefetchable) [size=256M]
[07:27] <reisio> hp_: if you put a space after the :, people can click the link
[07:27] <TJ-> hp_: That last part suggests it is 256MB
[07:28] <hp_> TJ: OMG is it powerful card? :(
[07:28] <reisio> it's onboard
[07:28] <reisio> so not particularly
[07:28] <reisio> but that doesn't mean it won't wholly satisfy you
[07:29] <hp_> Reisio:can i increase it to 512 VGA?
[07:29] <hp_> anyway thank you guys .. you are alwayes smart,honest and experts
[07:30] <reisio> hp_: wait for there to be a problem to fix before you fix it
[07:30] <hp_> i dont understand reisio
[07:30] <reisio> I don't understand what your concern is
[07:31] <TJ-> hp_: 256MB is more than enough for most requirements! I run dual 1920x1200 screens on my laptop with that
[07:32] <hp_> my last question .. i'm core 2 due, 2GB ram and 256 VGA .. which will be faster on my machine? ubuntu 32 or ubuntu 64 with less problems?
[07:32] <Dr_Willis> hp_:  i doubt if you will notice much differnace either way
[07:33] <Dr_Willis> i stick to 64bit on all my machines
[07:33] <xyzone> 64bit can be faster, but only if the applications are optimized that way
[07:33] <hp_> ty Dr_Willis
[07:34] <hp_> ty xyzone
[07:36] <reisio> hp_: there's no particular reason to not use 64-bit software if your processor is 64-bit
[07:37] <hp_> first time i know i can use 64 bit .. so happy with that ^_^
[07:37] <ikonia> why would you be happy you could use something you appear to know nothing about ?
[07:38] <Roy_Ubuntu_13-04> can i ask a question about some mounting trickerory
[07:38] <Dr_Willis> you could have just tried a 64bit usb ;)
[07:38] <Dr_Willis> ask and see who can answer Roy_Ubuntu_13-04
[07:42] <havv> I have lubuntu 13.04, if I install XFCE will it be the same (or close to) as installing the whole xubuntu dist? I like how fast lubuntu is but I don't like the way it looks
[07:42] <reisio> havv: basically the same
[07:42] <reisio> havv: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/purexubuntu
[07:42] <reisio> carcinogen75: hey... fix your connection :p
[07:43] <Dr_Willis> install the xubuntu-desktop package and have both havv
[07:43] <Roy_Ubuntu_13-04> not mounting partitions or images... but and example... on your desktop you mkdir abc && mkdir xyz && touch abc/a && touch abc/b && touch abc/c .... and the same with x,y,z inside xyz .....................
[07:43] <kenn_> hi all
[07:44] <Roy_Ubuntu_13-04> and mount abc onto xyz, so when in xyz you will see a,b,c .... and when u un-mount you will get xyz/x,y,z back
[07:44] <carcinogen75> reisio: i'm trying reinstall my video driver and rebooted some times. sorry
[07:44] <kenn_> would somebody try to compile this agere modem source package for me please
[07:44] <fancyfetus> How do I see which version of xorg i have installed?
[07:44] <havv> in xubuntu desktop, can I create shortcuts to directories? because this pcmanfm won't let me
[07:44] <fancyfetus> and how to I reinstall it?
[07:44] <kenn_> http://linmodems.technion.ac.il/packages/ltmodem/11c11040/agrsm-11c11040-2.1.80-20110811.tar.bz2
[07:45] <ikonia> Roy_Ubuntu_13-04: what are you talking about ??? you're doing mkdir - then talking about mounting that directory
[07:45] <Dr_Willis> Roy_Ubuntu_13-04:  when you mount a filesustem over a directory with files.. you wont see the files again, untill uouu unmount the  filesystem
[07:45] <Dr_Willis> havv:  you can always use ln -s from the cli
[07:46] <Roy_Ubuntu_13-04> i know thants perfict, but can u do it from folder to folder not being an image or partition
[07:46] <reisio> fancyfetus: dpkg -l | grep -i xorg
[07:46] <reisio> fancyfetus: X -version
[07:46] <ikonia> Roy_Ubuntu_13-04: you can bind mount, but why don't you explaing the REAL problem
[07:46] <Dr_Willis> Roy_Ubuntu_13-04:  from folder to folder Huh? You Mount a filesystem to a a directory.
[07:46] <fancyfetus> reisio, any idea how to reinstall it?
[07:47] <user__> hey can I get a good command line book for linux that has the FUNCTIONAL defination only
[07:47] <fancyfetus> or at least verify that the current install isn't broken?
[07:47] <Dr_Willis> Roy_Ubuntu_13-04:  if you want folder1 to point to folder2 - you can use a soft link for that
[07:47] <reisio> apt-get has a --reinstall option or something, IIRC, but I doubt it'll help
[07:47] <ikonia> user__: you search the books contents, that is nothing to do with ubuntu
[07:47] <reisio> user__: ?
[07:47] <Dr_Willis> user__:  what do you mean by 'functional'
[07:47] <ikonia> user__: or use the "man" page
[07:47] <user__> I mean only the usefull definations
[07:48] <Dr_Willis> and whats usefull defined as in this case?
[07:48] <ikonia> user__: search books contents then, go to a library, it's not really an ubuntu issue
[07:48] <reisio> try wikipedia.org
[07:48] <user__> sdkjfguiasdhnf
[07:48] <Roy_Ubuntu_13-04> Dr_Willis  ikonia , that way i dont have to worry about checking to see if stuff exists already using soft link, if i could do that i wouldnt have to delete existing to make soft link
[07:49] <user__> ok
[07:49] <Dr_Willis> Roy_Ubuntu_13-04:  im not clear on what you are doing.  and you really should check that stuff exists as part of  good practice in programing
[07:49] <ikonia> Roy_Ubuntu_13-04: wht you are saying, makes no sense, please explain the REAL problem
[07:50] <user__> hey are here all humans
[07:50] <Strit> user__, Nah, I'm an alien
[07:50] <reisio> Roy_Ubuntu_13-04: you can mount over a mount point with no extra steps
[07:51] <Roy_Ubuntu_13-04> not a problem, making a solution / convenience, making something portable that isnt ment to be
[07:51] <user__> just joking
[07:51] <ikonia> Roy_Ubuntu_13-04: there must be a problem if you are making a solution, for there to be a solution, there must be a problem
[07:52] <ikonia> however as you don't want to explain the real problem, we can't help, as your example means nothing
[07:52] <Dr_Willis> or course there maybe ways to allready do whatever it is you are needing to do ;)
[07:54] <Roy_Ubuntu_13-04> the problem is my friend aint that smart when it comes to cli related stuff, and he wants his ecryptfs portable among other machines, and just for the sake one of his friends should use it to and he uses the friends machine, i dont want any one to have to worry about any data coliding, im making a script
[07:55] <ikonia> Roy_Ubuntu_13-04: well, calling your friend "not smart" seems pretty foolish when you re also asking "how do I do it", secondly, moving around an encypted volume like that and the key is unwise, so I'd suggest your friend grows up and stops encypting it unless it's top secret data
[07:56] <Roy_Ubuntu_13-04> he is a retired cop so....
[07:56] <ikonia> Roy_Ubuntu_13-04: that means nothing
[07:57] <Roy_Ubuntu_13-04> any way do u get what im doing
[07:57] <ikonia> Roy_Ubuntu_13-04: I've given you my advice.
[07:58] <Dr_Willis> http://askubuntu.com/questions/103835/securely-automount-encrypted-drive-at-user-login
[07:58] <Roy_Ubuntu_13-04> im doing it the best way for any thing he could possibly encounter in the future and still be covered and can access his data with no knowledge on how to manually fix it
[07:59] <Roy_Ubuntu_13-04> not the hole drive, just one folder
[07:59] <ikonia> Roy_Ubuntu_13-04: use a hardware encypted USB
[07:59] <ikonia> if the data is that important
[08:00] <TJ-> Roy_Ubuntu_13-04: You can achieve the 'see abc in xyz' using overlayfs
[08:00] <Roy_Ubuntu_13-04> can u tell me more about overlayfs
[08:00] <Dr_Willis> i wonder how much the encryptedfs stuff depends on ubuntu version.. be really bad if a new rleease totally broke it.
[08:01] <ikonia> Dr_Willis: this is why I'm saying a hardware device that is totally self enclosed, and actually doesn't cost much more than a USB device
[08:01] <TJ-> Roy_Ubuntu_13-04: As for multiple users having access to an encrypted file-system, if you use LUKS, then there are 7 key-slots for pass-phrases or key-files to unlock it.
[08:01] <Roy_Ubuntu_13-04> just depends on ecryptfs-utils
[08:03] <Roy_Ubuntu_13-04> multiple users having access to the external HDD but only him to just one folder
[08:04] <TJ-> Roy_Ubuntu_13-04: Arrange the mount-points correctly and that is entirely possible
[08:04] <Roy_Ubuntu_13-04> TJ- can u make an example
[08:05] <TJ-> Roy_Ubuntu_13-04: I build laptops that have LUKS-encryped GRUB boot partition, separate LUKS-encrypted LVM VG containing multiple LVM logical volumes, each of which can be LUKS-encrypted, with ecryptfs used on user home directories. The keys can be shared or entirely separate, pass-phrase and/or key-files, etc.
[08:05] <Roy_Ubuntu_13-04> the folder paths im wanting to mount to each other are not the mount point to a fs, but folders with in 2 different fs's
[08:06] <TJ-> Roy_Ubuntu_13-04: sounds like a job for overlayfs then
[08:07] <Roy_Ubuntu_13-04> i dont see a command called overlayfs, can u tell me more?
[08:07] <TJ-> Roy_Ubuntu_13-04: it isn't a command, it is the Overlay File-System (FS)
[08:07] <ikonia> Roy_Ubuntu_13-04: if this is the level of your research, I again STRONGLY advise you not to go down this path
[08:07] <Roy_Ubuntu_13-04> would this require a format?
[08:08] <gordonjcp> Roy_Ubuntu_13-04: sounds like you're overcomplicating something
[08:08] <gordonjcp> Roy_Ubuntu_13-04: what exactly are you trying to do?
[08:09] <TJ-> Roy_Ubuntu_13-04:  if you install the package "linux-doc" you'll find details in "/usr/share/doc/linux-doc/filesystems/overlayfs.txt.gz"
[08:09] <Roy_Ubuntu_13-04> i wish i could use voice
[08:09] <Rory> gordonjcp: He's trying to encrypt a flash drive
[08:09] <Roy_Ubuntu_13-04> just one folder on the external usb HDD
[08:09] <gordonjcp> aha!
[08:09] <Rory> Roy_Ubuntu_13-04: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FolderEncryption
[08:09] <Roy_Ubuntu_13-04> and have it portable among different machines
[08:10] <gordonjcp> Roy_Ubuntu_13-04: okay, create a file containing the filesystem, and make an encrypted fs *in the file*
[08:10] <gordonjcp> Roy_Ubuntu_13-04: read about "loopback filesystems"
[08:10] <TJ-> Roy_Ubuntu_13-04: make the folder a mount-point for an ecryptfs volume, or make it the mount-point for a full encrypted file-system (either contained in a file or a raw partition/LV)
[08:12] <Roy_Ubuntu_13-04> of those thats replied, who uses ecryptfs? and ill make an example
[08:12] <TJ-> Roy_Ubuntu_13-04: If it has to be truly portable to other Ubuntu/Debian PCs, then you might consider placing the package .deb files for the encrpytion support on an unencrypted part of the device so they can be installed even if the target device has no network connection, and doesn't have the packages installed already.
[08:13] <ikonia> just buy a small hardware encypted usb device,
[08:13] <ikonia> remove the risk, remove the lack of needed skillset,
[08:13] <Rory> That's actually a really good idea
[08:13] <TJ-> Roy_Ubuntu_13-04: My advice is, build some small test-cases and try them out, then decide which meets your requirements best. There's nothing better than experimenting, and comparing different solutions
[08:13] <ikonia> remove the dependency on the OS
[08:15] <Dr_Willis> how do you typw in the password on an   hardware encrypted usb? ;) a little bitty keyboard?
[08:15] <ripthejacker> how do I add new mimetype in ubuntu?
[08:17] <Roy_Ubuntu_13-04> i got to go for a while
[08:18] <Roy_Ubuntu_13-04> encfs was doing something my friend didnt want, and i discover an exploit, he didnt want it
[08:19] <TJ-> Sounds like pen and paper would be more secure :p
[08:19] <Roy_Ubuntu_13-04> and cryptkeeper would not work, the gui
[08:19] <Dr_Willis> and if it has been patcched/fixed.. it wouldent matter
[08:20] <ripthejacker> I have a program called racket that I need to associate with .rkt files. How can I do it?
[08:20] <ripthejacker> So how can I add a mimetype for it?
[08:20] <Roy_Ubuntu_13-04> it hasnt, i could get hold of your machine and make the os open up the encfs even after u make it not auto do it
[08:21] <gordonjcp> Roy_Ubuntu_13-04: I find that hard to believe
[08:21] <Roy_Ubuntu_13-04> well i saw how to do it
[08:24] <Roy_Ubuntu_13-04> he wants his system on auto login cause of GF and kids, and once i figure out how to now make it auto mount in login, if u knew the system, its an easy undo, and its back on auto login
[08:24] <Roy_Ubuntu_13-04> make it Not*
[08:24] <Roy_Ubuntu_13-04> on log in
[08:38] <ars23> one of my friends have bad blocks on her hdd, can she repair or mark those sectors using e2fsck?
[08:38] <Dr_Willis> i was thinking fsck does that automatically. but id be making backups regullary
[08:40] <k1l_> yep, fsck does that. but it can only cover a few badblocks. and when badblock come up, most times it is not long until there are too many bad blocks
[08:41] <TJ-> bad blocks is an indicator if impending failure. Check the SMART log using  package "smartmon-tools" and "sudo smartctl -a /dev/sdX"
[08:41] <ars23> thanks k1l_
[08:42] <munstereth> recently installed ubuntu. magnet link doesn't point to transmission. there aren't even any programs in the 'choose app' list even though transmission is installed. don't know where transmission is on the computer? when i go to firefox preferences / applications,  magnet is not in the list so......?
[08:44] <Dr_Willis> checked at askubuntu.com yet? i think magnet links worked for me  but they loaded into ktorrent
[08:44] <ars23> yes, she used smart tools and she found almost 63 bad sectors... i suggested her to use:e2fsck -c -f -p /dev/device  it's a good idea?
[08:45] <Dr_Willis> http://askubuntu.com/questions/122930/how-to-make-firefox-open-magnet-links-in-transmission
[08:51] <lesshaste> xpdf seg faults whenever I try to open a pdf in 13.04
[08:51] <lesshaste> is this a known problem?
[08:55] <Dr_Willis> check bug reports?
[08:57] <lesshaste> Dr_Willis, oh that's clever.. the automatic crash reporter told me it was  a duplicate
[08:57] <lesshaste> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xpdf/+bug/943195
[08:58] <Dr_Willis> goohash ;)
[08:58] <lesshaste> Dr_Willis, amazingly it is just completely broken and they haven't fixed it yet!
[08:58] <lesshaste> you might have thought this was high priority for someone :)
[08:59] <Dr_Willis> i dont think  xpdf is  the default pdf reader app
[08:59] <Rory> It isn't, that would be a hilarious showstopper if it was
[08:59] <Rory> "Ubuntu PDF reader doesn't do its one job"
[09:01] <Dr_Willis> honestly - i rarely read pdf's  - about the only pdf i recall reading last time was a MagPi Issue. and they got it in other formats now.
[09:01] <Dr_Willis> im not even sur what Sigsegv means.
[09:03] <bekks> memory segmentation fault.
[09:03] <bekks> Either that application is broken, the pdf does weird things in xpdf, or the RAM of the computer is defective.
[09:05] <Dr_Willis> or all of the above. ;)
[09:05] <Rory> yeah but only one at a time
[09:07] <bibi_> i try to install nvidia in ub 12.04 and after all steps i recevi this on terminal WARNING: Unable to locate/open X configuration file.  New X configuration file written to '/etc/X11/xorg.conf'  root@bibi:/home/bibi#  can you help me
[09:07] <peterrooney> I would have sworn the default was evince
[09:08] <bekks> bibi_: Whats the problem with "I cant find a file, I will create it."?
[09:08] <Guest11198> hi ev
[09:08] <Guest11198> any body from ukraine
[09:08] <Dr_Willis> I dont need a xorg.conf file for my nvidia systems bibi_
[09:09] <Dr_Willis> bibi_:  it made a new xorg.conf file - so whats the issue bibi_ ?
[09:10] <Guest11198> what is better ubuntu or windows
[09:10] <cfhowlett> !ot|Guest11198,
[09:11] <Dr_Willis> Guest11198:  minix
[09:11] <gulag2013> That is impossible to answer. What do you want from your computer?
[09:11] <bibi_> i can't set the nvidia driver i
[09:11] <Guest11198> ok thanks ubottu
[09:11] <Dr_Willis> bibi_:  all i ever do is instgal the nvidia driver. reboot. run  nvidia-settings to tweak them
[09:12] <Guest11198> wahat is this room for ubottu
[09:12] <Guest11198> what
[09:12] <bekks> !bot | Guest11198
[09:12] <Dr_Willis> !bot | Guest11198
[09:12] <cfhowlett> Guest11198, look this is easy.  ubuntu is free to try.  do so.  if you like it, install it.  if not, use windows.
[09:13] <Guest11198> i have them both cfhowlett
[09:13] <Dr_Willis> Guest11198:  and your ubuntu related support question is wht exactly?
[09:13] <bibi_> how i run the nvidia settings?
[09:13]  * cfhowlett ... facepalms into his keyboard ...
[09:13] <Dr_Willis> bibi_:  'nvidia-settings' from a terminal is one way
[09:14] <bibi_> You do not appear to be using the NVIDIA X driver.  Please edit your X configuration file (just run `nvidia-xconfig` as root), and restart the X server.
[09:14] <Guest11198> i like more ubuntu interface  security usage  but gaming is much easier on windows  but im still discovering ubuntu if you know any tricks tell me
[09:14] <bekks> bibi_: Then do it.
[09:14] <cfhowlett> !steam|Guest11198,
[09:15] <geektech713> streamOS
[09:15] <Dr_Willis> !manual | Guest11198
[09:15] <geektech713> stream is on ubuntu already
[09:15] <Guest11198> ok thank you veryy much
[09:16] <Guest11198> thats nice
[09:16] <cfhowlett> geektech713, yeah, seems that factoid is a bit dated.
[09:16] <geektech713> oh ok
[09:17] <bibi_> same Using X configuration file: "/etc/X11/xorg.conf". Backed up file '/etc/X11/xorg.conf' as '/etc/X11/xorg.conf.backup' New X configuration file written to '/etc/X11/xorg.conf'
[09:17] <bekks> bibi_: And whats the problem with that?
[09:17] <Guest11198> damm i love to buy a gaming pc  ho got one tell me about it
[09:17] <bekks> Guest11198: thats not related to ubuntu.
[09:17] <Dr_Willis> if it says the nvidid drivers are not in use.. they may have failed to install
[09:17] <cfhowlett> Guest11198, you are seriously offtopic.  please to go the other channel.  thank you.
[09:17] <cfhowlett> !ot
[09:18] <Guest11198> ohh soryyy this chat is for questions related to ubuntu
[09:18] <bibi_> now my nvidia is not working
[09:18] <Guest11198> ok im veryy soryy i didnt know that by
[09:19] <bibi_> i want to see the settings for nvidia but said i am not using xorg
[09:20] <Susning> Guys. I've been trying to access my keyboard and mouse after installing Ubuntu 12.04 and 13.04. I have mouse during install and keyboard  as well. Keyboard works after installation during grub. When X Windows starts there is no reaction what so ever on mouse nor keyboard. Keyboard is Logitech K800 (Wireless through Unify), mouse if USB-cable Logitech G500. The wierd thing is that both mouse and keyboard works on eOS (which is based on 
[09:20] <Susning> ...and of course Windows.
[09:22] <TJ-> Susning: Are they connected via USB, or some other bus?
[09:22] <alexia> bonjour... J'ai un souci. Je suis nul en info et je n'arrive pas à installer un navigateur internet sur mon vieil ordi. A chaque fois il me répond "le téléchargement des paquets a échoué, veuillez vérifier votre connexion...
[09:23] <Susning> I've seen many others talking about issues overall with Logitech Unify keyboards. I don't know why the mouse which is usb-cable hassles though. The thing is most solutions I see seems to involve having other mouse/keyboards available, which I don't.
[09:23] <gulag2013> Check to make sure hardrive are first boot priority, remove all flash and exernal disks
[09:23] <TJ-> !fr | alexia
[09:23] <Dr_Willis> Hmm. Unifiying keyboard and mouse have neer given me issues.
[09:24] <Dr_Willis> theres even a unifying  config tool now called.. 'solaar'
[09:24] <Susning> Dr_Willis: Ok. No it doesnt either, in any other OS/distro. Just Ubuntu 12.04 and 13.04.
[09:24] <bibi__> i try to restart x server and now my rezolution is 800x600 can you help me please
[09:24] <gulag2013> I have logetech are famous for losing signal
[09:24] <Dr_Willis> Im on 13.10 here. ;)
[09:24] <Susning> Dr_Willis: Yes but I'm a bit from that since I can't login, can't write nor control mouse, and CTRL+ALT+F1 does nothing.
[09:24] <gulag2013> you have to sync them back all the time
[09:24] <Dr_Willis> Susning:  try booting to text mode if it works in the grub menu
[09:25] <Dr_Willis> Cant say ive ever had to sync any of mine.   2 unifying keyboards. 3 mice.
[09:25] <Dr_Willis> well one keyboard is that one that has a touchpad also. :)  i like that one.
[09:25] <Susning> mine can't sync, there are no buttons for syncing.
[09:26] <Susning> Dr_Willis: What should I do if I'm in terminal mode then?
[09:26] <Susning> ...if i get there.
[09:27] <discobiscuit> Which of these two filesystems are better/more compatible with Xubuntu 12.04: NTFS or exFAT?
[09:27] <discobiscuit> I ask because those are the only two options I have when it comes to reformatting my Ext HDD.
[09:27] <cfhowlett> discobiscuit, default is ext4 - suggest you go with that
[09:27] <Dr_Willis> id enable the ssh server so you can get in via ssh later - when the thing acts up so you an check out the logs and hopefully trouble shoot it better
[09:27] <discobiscuit> For an external HDD?
[09:27] <Dr_Willis> discobiscuit:  what are you formating it with?
[09:28] <gulag2013> No don't recommend ext4, if you are going to share with Windows
[09:28] <discobiscuit> It's plugged into my Windows (7 Ultimate x64) machine right now.
[09:28] <Dr_Willis> shareing with windows - use ntfs normally.
[09:28] <Dr_Willis> discobiscuit:  windows dosent know any othe rfilesystem then ntfs, and vfat. :)
[09:28] <discobiscuit> It's a 500GB Seagate Ext HDD. I use it to read/write files to and from Xubuntu AND Windows 7
[09:28] <Dr_Willis> discobiscuit:  so use ntfs if you need it wo worh with windows
[09:28] <discobiscuit> Okay.
[09:29] <gulag2013> If that is all it will be for use NTFS, for stranger things like playstations and alike use fat32
[09:29] <discobiscuit> Windows will only let me format it to NTFS or exFAT.
[09:29] <Dr_Willis> and exfat is vfat.
[09:30] <Dr_Willis> fat32
[09:30] <Dr_Willis> i think. ;)
[09:30] <gulag2013> oh, lets use gparted for fat32, but I believe ntfs should fill your needs
[09:30] <discobiscuit> I thought FAT32 has a size limit though?
[09:30] <gulag2013> it does 4gig file sizes
[09:30] <Susning> Dr_Willis: If that is needed to be able to use my hardware to first boot after installation I guess Ubuntu isn't for me yet. Thanks.
[09:30] <discobiscuit> Because it's a 500GB Ext HDD.
[09:30] <munstereth> ok, i had been http://askubuntu.com/questions/122930/how-to-make-firefox-open-magnet-links-in-transmission but missed the footnote to make changes in about:config. The instructions are for karmic, i'm using 12.04.3 with the package firefox. i put in those about:config lines, reopened firefox but magnet is still not in the list under preferences/applications ?
[09:31] <Dr_Willis> Susning:  ive had no issu with my logitech stiff. if you dont want to touble shoot.. well have fun.
[09:31] <cfhowlett> munstereth, magnet isn't an application.  the app you want to ASSIGN to magnet is transmission
[09:33] <Susning> Dr_Willis: At least I need to put it of for another occation. I have no other machine then my phone to connect through SSH. I've used Logitech stuff before on Ubuntu. Which I had more hardware here but now I'm kind of stuck. I actually did a rescue boot to try to choose terminal mode and the keyboard stops reacting there as well.
[09:33] <Susning> I have keyboard interaction at grub, but after grub, it's dead. and it was after that i came to the meny to choose terminal console.
[09:33] <munstereth> but how to do that? that link suggests you can by finding magnet under applications...?
[09:33] <Dr_Willis> Susning: You did try the basics things like putting it in a differnt port?
[09:33] <nhaz> good day to all
[09:34] <Susning> Dr_Willis: Yes, all other ports, waited for different amount of time etc.
[09:34] <cfhowlett> munstereth, firefox>edit>preferences>content type>magnet>action: use transmission
[09:34] <Dr_Willis> Susning:  you might want to check askubuntu.com also. there may be some known issues and work arounds
[09:34] <nhaz> hi
[09:34] <TJ-> Susning: That is usually an indication that BIOS is providing legacy USB service (which GRUB calls upon) but after the OS has loaded a suitable driver isn't there, or the USB hub/device has failed to configure correctly
[09:34] <Susning> Dr_Willis: What really baffels me it that eOS works which is based on 12.04 and should have pretty much the same hardware support as i understand it.
[09:35] <Dr_Willis> Susning:  the kernel version and X version are the  critical bits. could be theres just some quirky bug going on
[09:35] <Susning> TJ-: That is how I understood it from reading, as well.
[09:36] <Susning> Dr_Willis: TJ- I could install 13.04, or 12.04  - and reach those partitions from a live cd. if there is something i could edit, some config file or so.
[09:36] <ArielX_> hello people I use Ubuntu 13.04 but doesnt recognise my USB pendrive
[09:36] <Susning> I'll be back later regarding this. Of course Dr_Willis I should put some time in looking for the solution before giving up.
[09:36] <Susning> Thanks for now. bbl
[09:37] <Dr_Willis> bbl.
[09:37] <bibi_> stie cineva cum instalez nvidia am rulat ca root xconfig si am rezolutia de 800 si nu stiu ce dracu sa ai mai fac
[09:37] <munstereth> content type?....i have content
[09:37] <bekks> bibi_: we dont understand you, I guess :)
[09:38] <cfhowlett> !paste
[09:39] <ArielX_> hello people I use Ubuntu 13.04 but doesnt recognise my USB pendrive
[09:39] <bazhang> !ro | bibi_
[09:39] <bibi_> bekks i try to open nvid settings and ask me to run nv xconf as a root,i did that and now th resolution is 800x600
[09:40] <bekks> ArielX_: Unplug it, wait 10s, plug it back in, wait 10s, and then pastebin dmesg please.
[09:40] <k1l_> ArielX_: put the last ~50 lines of "dmesg" into a pastebin after you plugged it in your computer
[09:40] <munstereth> cfhowlett: content type ?
[09:40] <k1l_> !paste | ArielX_
[09:40] <bekks> "nv xconf"?
[09:40] <cfhowlett> munstereth, http://imagebin.org/272813
[09:41] <bibi_> nvidia-xconfig
[09:41] <cfhowlett> munstereth, sorry.  seems I left "Applications" out of the mouse click string
[09:41] <bazhang> munstereth, you need to assign an app to the magnet
[09:41] <bazhang> munstereth, browse to it, and click the app
[09:43] <munstereth> magnet is not in the list under apps though?
[09:43] <bazhang> munstereth, you launch the magnet, it asks you for an app to assign it to
[09:44] <bibi_> bekks can you help me?
[09:44] <munstereth> no apps in that list to choose from either but transmission is installed
[09:44] <bazhang> munstereth, you then browse to  the app Transmission, and assign Transmission ot the magnet
[09:44] <bekks> bibi_: How did you install your nvidia driver?
[09:44] <bibi_> from terminal
[09:44] <bazhang> munstereth, browse to it
[09:44] <bekks> bibi_: How?
[09:45] <munstereth> bazhang: no apps in that list to choose from
[09:45] <A1Recon> I have to fresh install windows and ubuntu again. I have 2 partitions on the primary HDD. One for Win and the other for ubuntu. Can I go ahead with the Win Installation??
[09:45] <gulag2013> does it give you the option to search folders? I have had this happen before?
[09:45] <cfhowlett> A1Recon, sound legit.
[09:45] <bibi_> with this sudo add-apt-repository ppa:ubuntu-x-swat/x-updates sudo apt-get update sudo apt-get install nvidia-current nvidia-settings
[09:45] <bekks> A1Recon: sure.
[09:45] <cfhowlett> !who
[09:46] <bekks> bibi_: Why did you use that PPA?
[09:46] <k1l_> A1Recon: i would at least make 2 partitions for ubuntu. 1 for /home and 1 for /. and you should consider having a /swap if needed
[09:46] <ArielX_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6195776/
[09:46] <bibi_> i fiind on ubunt http://askubuntu.com/questions/192025/ubuntu-12-04-terminal-only-after-nvidia-driver-upgrade
[09:47] <bekks> !ppa | bibi_
[09:47] <bekks> bibi_: Thats why you should not use PPA.
[09:47] <ArielX_> k1l_http://paste.ubuntu.com/6195776/
[09:48] <ArielX_> k1l_:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/6195776/
[09:48] <bibi_> what can i use?
[09:49] <bekks> bibi_: Do not use the PPA. I suggest uninstalling it again.
[09:49] <bekks> !ppapurge | bibi_
[09:50] <bibi_> sudo apt-get --purge remove nvidia-*
[09:50] <bekks> bibi_: Read the links given please.
[09:52] <ArielX_> k1l_ :   http://paste.ubuntu.com/6195776/
[09:53] <A1Recon> Hey can I install 64bit win 8 in a PC with 32-bit processor?
[09:53] <munstereth> When I click on the magnet link to launch an app to download, there are no apps in the list to browse through.  following the instructions here http://askubuntu.com/questions/122930/how-to-make-firefox-open-magnet-links-in-transmission,  to here http://imagebin.org/272813, magnet is not in the list. The suggested adjustment to about:config as per here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1416277 has no apparent effect on the situa
[09:54] <bekks> A1Recon: Obviously no.$
[09:54] <bekks> A1Recon: a 32bit processor is not capable of 64bit.
[09:54] <A1Recon> OK
[09:54] <cfhowlett> munstereth, what version ubuntu are you running?
[09:54] <munstereth> 12.04.3
[09:55] <munstereth> just installed
[09:55] <cfhowlett> munstereth, note that the first link if for an end of life version of ubuntu.  Did you actually add the ppa?
[09:56] <ggherdov> Hello. I have dnsmasq installed (`dnsmasq -v` ---> "Dnsmasq version 2.65 [...]") but `service dnsmasq status` gives "dnsmasq: unrecognized service". I am confused.
[09:57] <ArielX_> bekks : http://paste.ubuntu.com/6195776/
[09:58] <munstereth> cfhowlett: i didn't add any ppa...still gotta learn what that is
[09:58] <ggherdov> munstereth: it's a way to pollute your system with random people's code.
[09:58] <bibi_> bekks, i have that ppa-purge now what?
[09:58] <cfhowlett> munstereth, not needed for our purposes.  OK, I'm on Ubuntustudio which is a bit different from vanilla ubuntu.  you do have transmission installed?
[09:59] <munstereth> cfhowlett: yes
[09:59] <cfhowlett> munstereth, and under applications>content type, "magnet" does not appear?
[10:00] <k1l_> ArielX_: should work. what is the problem with that stick?
[10:00] <cfhowlett> ffox>edit>preferences>applications>content type   *magnet*
[10:01] <munstereth> cfhowlett: there is no 'content type' under applications
[10:02] <cfhowlett> munstereth, in firefox?!  difficult to believe ...
[10:02] <ArielX_> ubuntu 13.04 wont see my usb/stick
[10:02] <ArielX_> k1l_: ubuntu 13.04 wont see my usb/stick
[10:02] <bazhang> ArielX_, the stick has some issue then
[10:03] <munstereth> cfhowlett: 'content' is an alternate tab to 'applications' but magnet appears in neither
[10:03] <cfhowlett> use the search function to search for magnet on that page
[10:04] <ArielX_> no its good
[10:04] <munstereth> cfhowlett: did that....negative result
[10:04] <ArielX_> i use it in windows
[10:05] <cfhowlett> munstereth, ok that's a whole nother issue.  I don't know how to add content types to firefox and that seems to be what your 're indicating is needed.
[10:05] <bekks> ArielX_: As can be seen in dmesg, the stick IS detected properly. Just mount it manually.
[10:05] <cfhowlett> munstereth, so THIS is what is not working, right?    http://imagebin.org/272815
[10:08] <munstereth> cfhowlett: ok so 'content type' is the list title under applications but magnet is not in the list
[10:08] <bazhang> munstereth, I've told you how to do this several times
[10:09] <cfhowlett> munstereth, see bazhang's instructions or try a different browser ... google chromium for instance
[10:09] <bazhang> munstereth, its not difficult at all, not in the slightest
[10:09] <bazhang> munstereth, or see cfhowlett 's suggestion
[10:10] <munstereth> bazhang: yes you said browse to the app once you click on a magnet link...problem is that there are no apps to browse to
[10:11] <gulag2013> i believe you can link them
[10:14] <munstereth> bazhang and cfhowlett, if you haven't come across this problem there doesn't seem anything on the web tah shows how to fix it.
[10:15] <bazhang> munstereth, I do it every time I set up transmission
[10:16] <munstereth> bazhang: what you told me though, doesn't apply
[10:16] <bazhang> I would doubt theres a tutorial for some thing like that, its not complex
[10:16] <bazhang> munstereth, where are you browsing
[10:16] <lesshaste> can rhythmbox rip a cd?
[10:17] <lesshaste> or is that just brasero?
[10:17] <gulag2013> I would say start with pointing it towards your transmission
[10:17] <cfhowlett> lesshaste, IIRC rbox is only for playing so no ripping
[10:17] <munstereth> bazhang: ah..so you know of a link?
[10:18] <bazhang> munstereth, no, it's very easy to do: click magnet, box pops up asking you to assign app to it, browse to transmission, click on it, finished
[10:19] <cfhowlett> bazhang, actually, where exactly to look for the apps?  my search brings me to my /home but no apps so ... where?
[10:19] <gulag2013> Maybe this is it? /usr/bin/transmission-gtk
[10:19] <munstereth> bazhang: clearly you haven't read my responses to that. there are no apps shown in the box to browse to.
[10:20] <bazhang> cfhowlett, which transmission should show where
[10:20] <bekks> munstereth: Isnt there some button like "more" or "browser" in that box?
[10:20] <bazhang> gulag2013, has it yes munstereth
[10:21] <gulag2013> Was I right?
[10:21] <bazhang> munstereth, browse that path
[10:22] <cfhowlett> bazhang, yeah but found it. but the "which" command has to be PERFECT i.e. no transmission* found nothing, but transmission-gtk found it in /urs/bin
[10:22] <bazhang> cfhowlett, apologies
[10:22] <gulag2013> I found it using locate *transmission*
[10:22] <gulag2013> terminal
[10:23] <bazhang> yeah my bad
[10:23] <gulag2013> Anyway, I just learned that most of those executable are going to be in either /usr/bin or /bin folders
[10:25] <munstereth> bazhang: path? it just says choose an application but offers none to choose from. when i click choose it opens the computer filing system but where is transmission located?
[10:25] <cfhowlett> gulag2013, ah, nice.  my terminal foo is clearly not as good as yours.
[10:25] <gulag2013> No trust me dude, I'm just learning how to mv and cp files.
[10:26] <zidoh> does anybody know how to get spotify open.spotify links to open in spotify (linux version) instead of opening the play.spotify site on ubuntu 13.04?
[10:26] <zidoh> in chromium.. googling gives a lot of non-working answers for older versions of ubuntu
[10:27] <cebor> Since i updated from v12 to v13 IntelliJ has a very big and bold menu font under Ubuntu is this a bug or a feature? (running under open-jdk-7)
[10:27] <Peri_1> Hello. I've just installed another HDD in my Ubuntu 12.04 machine. I was  wondering if there is any advantage in converting it from NTFS to ext4. The HDD will be for storage, so can be one big partition.  Most obliged for advice.
[10:28] <gulag2013> If you using for storage only. I would say NTFS all the wya
[10:28] <gulag2013> way. You may want to pull it out and share it with Windows boxes. So keeping it NTFS is a good idea
[10:29] <gulag2013> ‌Windows can not natively read EXT partitions.
[10:29] <Peri_1> Yup. I was thinking along those same same lines.
[10:30] <Peri_1> if it is NTFS, that won't slow things down?  (the drive is 3TB)
[10:32] <gulag2013> Well, my question would be have you ever felt your drives were to slow using Windows? To be honest I have never tested against a EXT drive.
[10:33] <gulag2013> We are talking backups correct. You should be fine
[10:36] <Peri_1> No I have not. I have a PC running XP and it performs about the same as the Ubuntu box. Interestingly an ASUS laptop i5  running win 8, is as slow as a wet week.
[10:37] <Peri_1> Transmission downloads.
[10:37] <gulag2013> Well that could be so many things on a laptop. You don't know slow until you work on my Acer Netbook
[10:38] <gulag2013> Anyway, my desktop I have on ssd split in half for dual boot. Then I have one d drive that is ntfs that I share with Windows and Ubuntu
[10:44] <hp_> i686 = 32-bit Intel x86 arch
[10:44] <hp_> x86_64 = 64-bit Intel x86 arch
[10:44] <hp_> is that right sentences?
[10:44] <Peri_1> yeah, I had an msi netbook....win 7 starter....slow like a slug. But it sped up a lot with ubuntu. am pretty disappinted with the asus laptop. will see how it goes with a live ubuntu.
[10:45] <munstereth> gulag2013: so do you know how to access user/bin while browsing the gui file system? nothing comes up under a search for transmission in it, even though it is installed
[10:47] <gulag2013> munstereth, Sure are you ready
[10:47] <munstereth> gulag2013: yeah!
[10:47] <gulag2013> First enable hidden folders and files.
[10:49] <gulag2013> Oh the easiest way, is gksudo Nautilus in the terminal gives you root. Don't blame me if you delete anything becareful
[10:49] <gulag2013> lower case nautilus, Linux is so sensitive
[10:51] <gulag2013> You should be able to view /usr/bin even without root. Just click "filesystem" then /usr then /bin
[10:53] <munstereth> gulag2013: ok so did 'cntl h' in the user folder -folder with my name on it
[10:54] <gulag2013> munstereth, try "filesystem" Not your home folder
[10:56] <munstereth> gulag2013: hmm, no hidden folders showing up under 'filesystem'
[10:57] <Dr_Willis> filesystem is /  i thought.  what are we looking for? ;)
[10:57] <gulag2013> You are trying to find "transmission" right? I
[10:57] <munstereth> yes
[10:57] <gulag2013> I'm trying to show you were it is
[10:57] <munstereth> i know
[10:57] <Dr_Willis>   ~/.config/transmission  perhaps? or ~/.transmission
[10:57] <gulag2013> Fileysystem then /usr/bin
[10:58] <Dr_Willis> oh the path to transmission. ;)
[10:58] <Dr_Willis> the gui binary is called transmission-gtk i think.
[10:58] <gulag2013> Dr_Willis,. I have learned that executables are in /usr/bin and /bin. Where else do they place them?
[10:59] <Dr_Willis> gulag2013:  the command 'which transmission-gtk' will show i imagine
[10:59] <Dr_Willis>  /usr/bin /usr/local/bin    Hmm.. not sure where else
[10:59] <gulag2013> Yes, we determined that -gtk was the one.
[10:59] <Dr_Willis> 'locate transmission'  will also show some locations
[11:00] <mikeubuntu> hello, I installed windows after Ubuntu, now how to access Ubuntu again? how to get back GRUB
[11:00] <gulag2013> Yes that worked
[11:00] <Dr_Willis> 'which transmission-gtk'  perhaps
[11:00] <Dr_Willis> !fixgrub | mikeubuntu
[11:00] <Dr_Willis> mikeubuntu:  live cd + that boot-repair tool is the easiest way to fix it
[11:00] <gulag2013> That is a new one /usr/local/bin Thank you
[11:01] <Dr_Willis> normally not much in /usr/local/bin ;)
[11:01] <munstereth> ok, yes, i have found the folder for transmission in 'my folder'/.config/transmission in the gui....now what is the executable?
[11:01] <mikeubuntu> Dr_Willis, can I install Boot-repair via Live Cd ?
[11:01] <Dr_Willis> munstereth:  'which transmission-gtk' should shwo it
[11:01] <Dr_Willis> mikeubuntu:  if you read that url/guide - it shows you exactly how to install it via live cd
[11:02] <Dr_Willis> munstereth:  .config/XXXXXX is config files for your various tools.
[11:02] <Dr_Willis> not the binaries
[11:04] <mikeubuntu> well, If I add PPA via Live CD, will it be added in installed Ubuntu? (stupid question)
[11:04] <Dr_Willis> it will work untill you reboot.
[11:04] <gulag2013> munstereth, the executable was transmission-gtk in the /usr/bin folder. If you linked Firefox to a transmission ./config I'm not sure that would open it.
[11:04] <Dr_Willis> it installs to  RAM on the live cd
[11:04] <munstereth> Dr_Willis: yeah so the executable's not in there right...where would i find it? trying to point to it from the gui after clicking on a magnet link
[11:05] <mikeubuntu> Dr_Willis, so will do nothing to installed Ubuntu?
[11:05] <Dr_Willis> munstereth: we have bee3n saying the command 'which transmission-gtk' should show EXACTLY where the binary is at
[11:05] <mikeubuntu> any way to repair this via windows?
[11:05] <Dr_Willis> mikeubuntu:  it takes extra effort to install somtning on your installed system.
[11:06] <Dr_Willis> mikeubuntu:   the boot-repair tool is the easiest way to fix it
[11:06] <mikeubuntu> Dr_Willis, ok thanks
[11:06] <Dr_Willis> theres even a boot-repair live cd. and some ubuntu respins with it included
[11:06] <Dr_Willis> both mentioned at the boot-repair ubuntu wiki page
[11:07] <mikeubuntu> Dr_Willis, can i use any version of Ubuntu? /Old Live CD ?
[11:07] <Dr_Willis> mikeubuntu:  no idea.
[11:07] <Dr_Willis> i imagine its best to use one that you have installed. or newer
[11:07] <mikeubuntu> Dr_Willis, ok i am gonna try
[11:07] <mikeubuntu> Dr_Willis, ok
[11:08] <Dr_Willis> hmm. Nifty. 2 finger scrolling works on this logitech keyboard with touchpad built in. ;)
[11:08] <TJ-> Note-to-self: don't be surprised when the rootfs partition is missing when you install to a fakeRAID raw device (without dmraid) then expect it to boot reliably with dmraid installed - dmraid's initrd options cause it to remove all the raw device's partitions from the kernel... thus hiding the partition containing the volume group with the rootfs in!
[11:09] <munstereth> gulag2013:yeah so usr/bin /transmission-gtk but what's the path to that in the gui?
[11:10] <Dr_Willis> munstereth:  that is the path  /usr/bin/transmission-gtk
[11:10] <tinylp> lol
[11:10] <tinylp> HELLO?
[11:10] <BluesKaj> 'Morning all
[11:10] <Dr_Willis> nautilus has some way to enter a text path if its showing the silly button-thingsd..
[11:10] <Dr_Willis> ctrl-l perhaps.
[11:10] <tinylp> AHA...
[11:10] <cfhowlett> tinylp, greetings
[11:10] <dam_> Hi
[11:10] <tinylp> Hi
[11:11] <tinylp> i have xubuntu
[11:11] <dam_> I search help about Ubuntu but i don't find a french chat :/
[11:11] <TJ-> Dr_Willis: I think with Nautilus if you just start typing it shows an address/path bar immediately
[11:11] <discobiscuit> Does anyone run Xubuntu (or any version of Ubuntu/Debian/Linux in general) on a Macbook Pro with Retina display?
[11:11] <TJ-> !fr | dam_
[11:11] <discobiscuit> tinylp, hi!
[11:12] <tinylp> Hi
[11:12] <gulag2013> munstereth, I'm not sure what it is that is challenging. When you open it up to look choose your "/" if that is the only selection or look for the word "File system"  then /usr then /bin
[11:12] <dam_> :join #ubuntu-fr
[11:12] <dam_> oups sorry :/
[11:12] <discobiscuit> I have Xubuntu as well, tinylp.
[11:12] <discobiscuit> I really like XFCE.
[11:12] <tinylp> :F
[11:12] <cfhowlett> !mac|discobiscuit,
[11:13] <discobiscuit> I want to migrate to Debian (with XFCE), but I got settled in with Xubuntu already. I am too lazy to migrate over to Debian and have to install everything again.
[11:13] <discobiscuit> :p
[11:13] <discobiscuit> ubottu, I am just wondering, how well Linux works with the Retina display.
[11:13] <discobiscuit> Damn.
[11:13] <tinylp> i going offline bye
[11:14] <illusion> need gstreamer help
[11:14] <munstereth> Dr_Willis: ok so just imagine, i click on a magnet link the choose app box comes up, i click choose and it takes me to the gui to browse my folders...i'm new to this..how does /usr and /bin translate in the gui while browsing folders as opposed to what it says in terminal?
[11:14] <discobiscuit> Well anyone here running Ubuntu (or any Linux) on a Macbook Pro with Retina Display?
[11:15] <k1l_> !anyone | discobiscuit
[11:17] <gulag2013> munstereth,  I really want to help you are you ready. I want you to visually understand this. It will hit you all at once. Can  you open your file manager?
[11:17] <Dr_Willis> munstereth:  / is the root of the filesystem. theres nothing  lower then /    I dont know what your file manager looks like. Im not on ubuntu
[11:18] <gulag2013> click the orange folder
[11:18] <Dr_Willis> munstereth:  hit the parent icon a few times till you get to / then look for  usr then bin
[11:18] <Dr_Willis> or if you can type in a path  type in /usr/bin/
[11:19] <munstereth> So, the home folder?
[11:19] <Dr_Willis> home is NOT /
[11:19] <gulag2013> True enough, I should pull up that silly torrent prompt and see what he is looking at for options.
[11:20] <Dr_Willis>   the path to  the users home is /home/theusersname     so if you where in your users home.. hit the parent/up buttn twice. (heck hit it 5 times.. it will stop at / :)
[11:20] <xanax`> hello
[11:20] <xanax`> I use Windows 8 and Ubuntu (dual boot) and I have heard that windows 8.1 will be available via Windows Update in the end of the month. Will the Windows 8.1 update break my grub configuration (and dual boot) ?
[11:20] <k1l_> xanax`: maybe
[11:21] <Dr_Willis> xanax`:  it would be most annioying if MS decded to just mess with everyones bootloader..
[11:21] <cfhowlett> xanax`, shouldn't but with windows you never know.  be prepared to restore your grub
[11:21] <xanax`> -_-  alright
[11:21] <k1l_> xanax`: just keep a usb-stick with a live-ubuntu to reinstall the grub if needed
[11:21] <Dr_Willis> why would a windows update break the bootloader.  unless they update their bootloader
[11:22] <Dr_Willis> firefox  'another application..' dialog box here has 'File System' as being '/'
[11:23] <Dr_Willis> Or you can hit CTRL-L (like we mentioned eralier)  and type in  /usr/bin
[11:23] <munstereth> Dr_Willis: ok, so that would appear to correspond with 'filesystem'
[11:23] <Dr_Willis> they are calling / 'filesystem' since / is the ROOT of the whole filesystem
[11:24] <Dr_Willis> use ctrl-l , or a pencil icon i see at the top left to enter 'text entry of path' mode.
[11:24] <BluesKaj> munstereth, look in the file manager 'places' , root
[11:25] <Dr_Willis> you can even type in /usr/bin/trasmission-gtk (it auto completed the name for me)
[11:26] <munstereth> it displays but without the option to type that i can see
[11:26] <Dr_Willis> ctrl-l or that Pencil Icon let me enter the full path
[11:27] <Dr_Willis> but could be my FF version differs or somthing
[11:27] <Dr_Willis> im on 13.10
[11:31] <munstereth> Dr_Willis: thankyou for your patience :)
[11:31] <Dr_Willis> and now its very obvious to you?
[11:31] <cfhowlett> so ... an unreleased version of ubuntu?  nah, it COULDN'T be ...
[11:31] <Dr_Willis> ;)
[11:31] <munstereth> gulag2013:thankyou for your patience :)
[11:31] <cfhowlett> :)
[11:31] <rygD> is anyone knowledgeable on using pcmcia memory cards?
[11:32] <Dr_Willis> rygD:  you mean Ram cards? like a 4gb ram card?
[11:32] <TJ-> rygD: Do you mean memory devices plugged into a PCMCIA adapter?
[11:32] <rygD> this is an sram, 2 mb
[11:32] <Dr_Willis> My amiga could use those... like Decades ago. ;)
[11:32] <rygD> i should be more specific
[11:32] <gulag2013> munstereth, It will work out. I't can be confusing at first.
[11:32] <Dr_Willis> and even then - it was not a good idea. ;P
[11:33] <rygD> i have an adapter for cf also, but i need the sram to load a driver
[11:33] <rygD> pretty muck my only option for what i am trying to do is the pcmcia slot
[11:34] <TJ-> PCMCIA is managed by the pcmciautils package
[11:34] <rygD> much
[11:34] <rygD> i can see that the card is recognised
[11:34] <rygD> but i don't know how to put anything on it
[11:34] <Dr_Willis> i cant recall ever seeing a pcmcia card you could access like a little hard drive.
[11:34] <Dr_Willis> only one i had ages back was one that worked as actual ram
[11:35] <[twisti]> hello, i run ubuntu LTS 12 headless, on login, i get: *** /dev/md2 will be checked for errors at next reboot *** for a few different partitions. but reboots dont help, it just reboots normally and i keep getting those messages. ideas ?
[11:35] <rygD> this was recently formatted
[11:35] <Dr_Willis> I thought ive seen CF to IDE adaptors that dident need any drivers.
[11:35] <rygD> it was running software for a tortilla company until about a decade or so ago
[11:35] <gulag2013> Crap they are real and can't remember what version of pcmcia they were mostly version 2 I think
[11:36] <rygD> what i am using this on is also about 20 years old
[11:36] <Dr_Willis> ;)  back when pcmcia was  trying to become the standard way to expand desktop machines? ;) i rember that push ages back.
[11:36] <rygD> the sram is a type 1
[11:36] <cfhowlett> rygD, well, you'll just have to *puts on his cool shades* Let the chips fall where they may.  YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEAH!
[11:36] <Dr_Willis> now even finding  laptop with pcmcia is hard.
[11:36] <rygD> i know
[11:37] <rygD> i just installed xubuntu yesterday to give it a shot
[11:37] <rygD> the first laptop i tried had an issue
[11:37] <rygD> half the keys didn't work
[11:37] <gulag2013> How about Express cards. I had to learn all this junk for Comptia, I haven't encountered any of it.
[11:38] <rygD> too new
[11:38] <zidoh> is there a way (outside of ccsm) to fix tabbing in ubuntu 13.04 ?
[11:38] <Dr_Willis> and whats wrong with tabbing? clarify what you mean byu tabbing also..
[11:39] <zidoh> sorry.. i want alt+tab to tab between windows, not applications, and i don't want the "show desktop" there
[11:40] <Dr_Willis> thats handled specifically by somne of the compiz plugins. so  ive never seen a compiz config tool other then ccsm to alter the compiz settings
[11:40] <Dr_Willis> theres alternative alt-tab plugins in the ccsm toolk i even recall.
[11:40] <munstereth> 1st torrent in ubuntu :)
[11:41] <Dr_Willis> munstereth:  and of course - you got it from 'legaltorrents.org'  ;)
[11:41] <munstereth> ok, cool, cheers :-D
[11:42] <gulag2013> munstereth, learn the hierarchy this weekend.
[11:45] <BluesKaj> MonkeyDust, pm
[11:46] <Mo0O> bonjour
[11:46] <Mo0O> vous connaissez un soft pour faire des grilles de jazz ?
[11:47] <rygD> is there somewhere or someone that might contain the info I am looking for with pcmcia cards?
[11:48] <Mo0O> rygD: lspci, non ?
[11:49] <cfhowlett> !fr|Mo0O,
[11:49] <rygD> hmmm...I can see the cards, Mo0O, but I don't know how to put stuff on them
[11:49] <Mo0O> oh sorry, wrong chan
[11:50] <rygD> oh, english
[11:50] <Mo0O> chadi: realy sorry
[11:50] <buu> Can anyone give me a hint why after I select 'Actions: when laptop lid is closed: nothing' it still suspends after a few minutes when I close the lid?
[11:51] <rygD> Mo0O: do you know how to do that?
[11:51] <rygD> buu, do you have any other power settings that would cause it to suspend in that timeframe?
[11:51] <ender-adam> buu: apply settings before trying to suspend
[11:52] <Mo0O> rygD: when you plug a pcmcia card, you should see the device on /dev/sd{xy}
[11:52] <ender-adam> buu: which ubuntu release?
[11:52] <buu> rygD: I'm not sure, it's a fresh install..
[11:52] <buu> ender-adam: Uh, xubuntu 13.10
[11:52] <rygD> Mo0O: i didn't see it earlier
[11:52] <Mo0O> and should mount it, on /mnt for example
[11:52] <ender-adam> buu: i use 12.04.2
[11:52] <ender-adam> buu: i use 12.04.2
[11:53] <rygD> lemme check again, but i have been fighting this for around 12 hours
[11:53] <ender-adam> sorry about the repeat
[11:53] <ender-adam> and i use the normal ubuntu with unity not xfce
[11:53] <TJ-> rygD: In a terminal do "tail -f /var/log/kern.log" before you plug the device in... that'll show you any messages from the kernel about the device
[11:54] <ender-adam> acces to the kernel?!?
[11:54] <ender-adam> access to the kernel?!?
[11:55] <rygD> TJ-: that is odd
[11:57] <ender-adam> buu so 13.10 isn't beta anymore
[11:58] <rygD> ok, i guess i misread it the first time
[11:58] <auronandace> ender-adam: 13.10 isn't released as stable yet
[11:58] <ender-adam> well then?
[11:59] <ender-adam> are there advantages of not-yet-stable releases?
[11:59] <rygD> it says the card was inserted and that it is registering
[11:59] <cfhowlett> ender-adam, yep.  you get to play on the bleeding edge
[12:00] <ender-adam> and the newest stuff?
[12:01] <cfhowlett> ender-adam, my system works. I've got Long Term Support.  I leave the bleeding edge to masochists and people smarter than I am
[12:04] <sarvsav> hi everyone
[12:04] <sarvsav> i have a query
[12:05] <sarvsav> where does the passphrase get stored, that unlocks the private key?
[12:06] <Rory> This is an odd question, but how can I specify the local port that's opened by the SSH client that the server sends traffic back to? It seems to use an arbitrary, random and high port
[12:06] <ender-adam> im on offtopic of you need me
[12:07] <sarvsav> so how to find out?
[12:07] <[twisti]> hello, i run ubuntu LTS 12 headless, on login, i get: *** /dev/md2 will be checked for errors at next reboot *** for a few different partitions. but reboots dont help, it just reboots normally and i keep getting those messages. ideas ?
[12:07] <bwayne> Rory: in sshd_config you can specify a port on which sshd runs.
[12:08] <auronandace> !fsck | [twisti]
[12:10] <[twisti]> auronandace: will that work unattended ? its a remote server, i dont want it to get stuck sitting there going 'do you want me to fix this error Y/N'
[12:11] <bwayne> Rory: from the box you're ssh'ing from, simply 'ssh -p <port> <usr>@<host>'
[12:12] <ubuntu-addict> Hello. I want to buy a ROG G750 but I want to be sure that it will work with ubuntu. Does someone manage to use it with Ubuntu?
[12:13] <auronandace> [twisti]: i'm sorry, i don't know
[12:13] <neta> i have a problem- how do i remove mlterm? (multilingual erminal)
[12:15] <Rory> bwayne: Thanks but that's not what I meant
[12:15] <ubuntu-addict> nobody?
[12:16] <cfhowlett> !hardware|ubuntu-addict,
[12:16] <Guest72716> @neta does sudo apt-get autoremove mlterm not work
[12:17] <BluesKaj> Guest72716, sudo apt-get remove mlterm
[12:17] <Rory> bwayne: For example "lsof -i | grep ssh" shows TCP port sambac.local:51120 - I want to know how to make 51120 into something of my choosing
[12:17] <aanderse> given ubuntu 13.10 is going to be using xmir and lightdm will ubuntu 13.10 support multiseat configurations?
[12:18] <Guest72716> @blueskaj: that is what i wrote
[12:18] <cfhowlett> !saucy|aanderse,
[12:18] <ubuntu-addict> thanks ubottu but there is no info about g750
[12:18] <cfhowlett> ubuntu-addict, so there's no information available - roll the dice.
[12:18] <bwayne> Rory: so you're wanting to change which port your ssh server listens on?  I'm sorry I misunderstood.
[12:19] <Rory> bwayne: No, I know how to do that, this is entirely on the client what I am asking
[12:19] <Rory> bwayne: I'm connected to my server right now (on port 22 not that that is relevat)
[12:20] <BluesKaj> Rory, ssh
[12:20] <wylde> Rory: http://explainshell.com/explain/1/ssh ----perhaps -L ? Not certain, skimming through quickly
[12:21] <bwayne> Rory: sorry. haven't had my coffee yet. i don't think i understand. :)
[12:21] <wylde> bwayne: I believe Rory is wanting to control the local port used by the client
[12:21] <neta> i have a problem- how do i remove mlterm? (multilingual erminal)
[12:22] <BluesKaj> Rory, an alternate port is 220
[12:23] <Lunar_Lamp> Rory: why do you want to specify the outbound port? It's very standard that client ports are ephemeral.
[12:24] <bwayne> ah. Rory I think wylde is correct. from 'man ssh' -->   -L [bind_address:]port:host:hostport
[12:24] <wylde> neta: you were given an answer earlier. 'sudo apt-get remove mlterm'
[12:25] <wylde> neta: if that isn't working please pastebin any error output.
[12:27] <buu> Ok seriously how hard is it to turn off 'suspend when lid closes' ?
[12:28] <buu> Anyone have a console hack handy?
[12:28] <wylde> buu: you have any other suspend options off as well? Thise will still have an effect even if you turn off the lid close option.
[12:28] <me-1> hi...how do I update grub
[12:28] <wylde> Those*
[12:29] <buu> wylde: Where would I find those?
[12:30] <wylde> buu: I imagine the same place you found the lid close option. I'm not using Unity or gnome.
[12:30] <buu> wylde: I'm using xfce4 apparently
[12:30] <cfhowlett> me-1, sudo update grub
[12:31] <buu> It just says: When laptop lid is closed: nothing
[12:32] <me-1> cfhowlett,  I used to have win7 but removed it still have menu in grub I wanted to reomove that entry
[12:32] <cfhowlett> me-1, and?  did you run update grub?
[12:32] <me-1> cfhowlett, not yet
[12:33] <wylde> buu: I'm having a look on http://askubuntu.com/
[12:33] <bwayne> buu: see if any of these answers helps you --->  http://askubuntu.com/questions/15520/how-can-i-tell-ubuntu-to-do-nothing-when-i-close-my-laptop-lid
[12:34] <wizard_A> what should be the command to create a link to public_html from lamp/htdocs and necessary perms
[12:35] <wylde> buu: also perhaps http://askubuntu.com/questions/300718/xubuntu-power-settings-file/301044#301044
[12:36] <bwayne> wizard_A: are you wanting 'public_html' to essentially point to lamp/htdocs ?
[12:36] <wizard_A> yes but i guess the other way around?
[12:37] <bwayne> wizard_A: a symbolic link will do what you're looking for. 'ln -s <source_dir> <new_linked_dir>'
[12:38] <wizard_A> let me try that.
[12:38] <krambiorix> hi, i want to buy a new tv and will later on install ubuntu tv... Can i install ubuntu tv on all tv's?
[12:38] <cfhowlett> krambiorix, nope
[12:39] <cfhowlett> !xmbc
[12:39] <cfhowlett> !touch|krambiorix,
[12:39] <ubuntu-addict> Hello. Has someone ever managed to use ubuntu on a ROG G75 or G750?
[12:39] <krambiorix> cfhowlett, is that the same as tv?
[12:39] <cfhowlett> krambiorix, so far as I know, no one has installed ubuntu on a television.
[12:40] <cfhowlett> krambiorix, perhaps you're thinking of a home media server?
[12:40] <krambiorix> cfhowlett, it's intended to install it on a box?
[12:40] <krambiorix> aah yes
[12:40] <krambiorix> ok
[12:40] <krambiorix> or on a raspberry pie thingy
[12:40] <krambiorix> cfhowlett, ok thanks!
[12:41] <cfhowlett> krambiorix, got it.  there's a full fledged media server set up
[12:41] <camel__> Good evening
[12:41] <cfhowlett> camel__, greetings
[12:41] <krambiorix> yes thanks again
[12:42] <camel__> who has resources about programing
[12:43] <cfhowlett> !details|camel__,
[12:44] <buu> wylde: Thanks, trying those options
[12:46] <bwayne> camel__: this page has excellent resources. i apologize for zed's child-unfriendly site, but it is the best. http://goo.gl/1UWCy
[12:46] <wylde> !alis | camel__: what language, or perhaps ask alis
[12:47] <wizard_A> what i want to achieve is localhost/MyPages/WebS1 to display whats in /home/public_html/WebS1/home.html.
[12:48] <bwayne> wizard_A: did
[12:48] <wizard_A> ?
[12:48] <cfhowlett> !xbmc
[12:49] <wylde> wizard_A: you can configure apache to use the /public_html/ directory directly in /etc/apache/sites-available/<filename>
[12:49] <wylde> !apache | wizard_A
[12:49] <wizard_A> yes
[12:51] <bwayne> wizard_A: sorry. i was answering and accidentally hit <enter> on this tiny keyboard. :) but i'm glab. wylde's approach appears to be *the* way it's done.
[12:52] <wizard_A> can i add another entry in httpd.conf file
[12:52] <saulisosis> Whatup, just updated jockey-gtk and I'd like to know if it's safe to move to nvidia 319 yet?
[12:52] <wizard_A> actually i've lamp installed in /opt/lamp/
[12:52] <wylde> wizard_A: is this the only "website" you're going to host? I assume you want this as a local development server?
[12:52] <BluesKaj> cfhowlett, XBMC is ok if youdon't mind having your media organized for you by an app that takes over your pc :)
[12:53] <wizard_A> no i'm using it for testing other sites as well
[12:53] <wizard_A> yes
[12:53] <xQuasar> hi guys, i'm having trouble with ubuntu 12.04 64bit on my desktop. it's dual booted with windows 8. when i use ubuntu, everything is fine for anywhere from 1 minute to 1 hour, but at some point it always starts lagging insanely for a few seconds (cursor moves once every 3 seconds or so) and then immediately followed by a complete freeze of the entire computer
[12:53] <wylde> wizard_A: ok, not sure why you didn't just use ubuntu's lamp stack but you can still configure pache to use that directiry
[12:53] <wylde> blah typos
[12:53] <xQuasar> a google search hasn't given me any real answers, does anyone here have any ideas>
[12:54] <xQuasar> i don't think it's a hardware issue because i never encounter any issues whatsoever when on windows
[12:54] <bwayne> xQuasar: that's kind of a vaque description of the problem. are there any more details you could give us? or is that the extent of it?
[12:54] <AllanD> xQuasar: I had issues very similar to that with the -053 kernel - just went back to 052 and all is fine
[12:54] <shahin> hi every one
[12:55] <shahin> I HAVE A PROBLEM WITH WIFI CONNECTION
[12:55] <AllanD> xQ
[12:55] <bwayne> shahin: no caps please
[12:55] <AllanD> xQuasar: I should add I did not have WINDOZE anywhere near
[12:55] <saulisosis> xQuasar: bwayne's right. Is there something repeatable you have tried to induce the problem?
[12:56] <shahin> my connection ' s been continusly  disconected
[12:56] <xQuasar> bwayne: that's all that happens. i boot it up, spend a few minutes with only firefox / gedit open, and then it always happens.
[12:56] <shahin> what's the problem?
[12:56] <bwayne> xQuasar: when was the last time it happened? are you in Ubuntu now?
[12:57] <xQuasar> intense lag for a few seconds followed by a complete freeze. the only thing i could do is force shutdown by holding the power button. are there log files that could help with identifying the problem anywhere and how would i access them?
[12:57] <saulisosis> shahin: You really need to be more specific
[12:57] <xQuasar> bwayne: it happened like 3 times just now. i'm on windows now and trying to find a fix
[12:57] <Guest79388> please, how can i do private messages with one click in xchat?? with xchat-gnome it works by default!
[12:58] <BluesKaj> xQuasar, check /var/log/syslog
[12:58] <bwayne> xQuasar: i'd be interested in seeing the kernel log. can you get to /var/log/kern.log on Ubuntu and pastebin it?
[12:58] <saulisosis> Peace out ! /disconnect
[12:58] <saulisosis>  /disconnect
[12:58] <shahin> i mean every 1 minute my network connection is been disconnecting
[12:59] <xQuasar> bwayne: alright, i'll do that now, will be back on this channel soon
[12:59] <bwayne> xQuasar: there many be a few of them, appended with digits. if you can find them, pastebin them. BluesKaj's advice is good too. You'll want to look through the logs in /var/log to see anything suspicious.
[13:00] <bwayne> xQuasar: at least, as many as you can get to before liftoff. :)
[13:01] <zzZhou>  XFCE Edge of the window moves only covers half of the screen, how completely covered
[13:01] <wylde> zzZhou: move to the top of the screen ;)
[13:01] <kostkon> Guest79388, pref -> user list -> action upon double click and put:  query %s
[13:02] <wylde> zzZhou: left/right edge tiles to left and right sides
[13:03] <zzZhou> I want full screen, just like windows7
[13:03] <zzZhou> How to do it
[13:04] <dreamon> BluesKaj, Hey. Found the reason why flash wasnt playing at all. ;)
[13:04] <wylde> zzZhou: not sure what you mean. I haven't used Windows in 7 years ;) Maybe someone else will have an idea
[13:04] <BluesKaj> dreamon, good , what was causing your flash problem
[13:05] <buu> wylde: awesome, that bug report solved it
[13:05] <wylde> buu: good stuff :(
[13:06] <wylde> :) oops
[13:06] <dreamon> BluesKaj, My CPU (Amd sempron) there is no sse2 flag in it, with flash it is a must have in linux. In Windows it isnt.
[13:06] <wylde> rotten fingers
[13:06] <buu> wylde: Now if only I could fix this damn trackpad =]
[13:06] <wylde> buu: what's the trackpad issue?
[13:07] <buu> wylde: It's way too sensitive/wide/something, I keep bumping the edge of it and it triggers a mouseclick when I'm typing
[13:07] <zzZhou> wylde: MATA window to the screen using the mouse to drag the edge up automatically maximize, and now I can cover the screen of the general
[13:07] <dreamon> BluesKaj, I build the same system in a different hardware it worked perfect.
[13:07] <xQuasar_> bwayne: the entire file was too large for pastebin so i only pasted today's logs
[13:07] <xQuasar_> bwayne: http://pastebin.com/5QFqUCxn
[13:08] <buu> wylde: Also since I'm asking random questions, do you have any idea why selecting stuff isn't automatically copying it in xfce4-terminal?
[13:08] <wylde> buu: ohhhhh, I alwasy disable my trackpads and use a mouse. I hate them. lol
[13:08] <BluesKaj> dreamon, your pc is quite old ?
[13:08] <bwayne> xQuasar_: hmmm ... we'll have to see a log from around the time the incident happened. i'll look at it though.
[13:08] <buu> wylde: Well I can't drag a mouse around with my laptop, heh
[13:08] <xQuasar_> BluesKaj: sorry what was the file that you said to check?
[13:09] <dreamon> BluesKaj, Yes. I want to build this PC only for using flash.
[13:09] <xQuasar_> bwayne: the bits i pasted are from under an hour ago when it happened 2 times
[13:09] <buu> Ohh
[13:09] <wylde> buu: I do ;) lol. No ideas on the track pad issue besides having a look on askubuntu
[13:09] <buu> Goddamn it xwindows and your pastebuffers
[13:10] <BluesKaj> xQuasar_, /var/log/syslog
[13:10] <kostkon> xQuasar_, you got some fs probs, the fs repaired itself though. you need to learn about REISUB instead of holding the power button when your sustem is frozen
[13:10] <buu> wylde: Whoever thought multiple copybuffers was a great design feature should be shot =[
[13:11] <zzZhou> wylde :MATA desktop windows using the mouse upwards marginalization can achieve full-screen maximized, and now I can not.
[13:11] <xQuasar_> kostkon: sorry i'm a complete dud when it comes to ubuntu, i'm a first year compsci student and only started using ubuntu a few months ago.. i don't know what fs or REISUB are
[13:11] <wylde> buu: as for the auto-copying I really don't know. Search settings or look for a settings file. May be an option that can be toggled on/off
[13:11] <kostkon> xQuasar_, sorry for being unclear, fs -> filesystem ;)
[13:12] <xQuasar_> bwayne: oh also, forgot to mention: when i opened kern.log in gedit it gave me a warning "there was a problem opening the file, it has some invalid characters etc etc"
[13:12] <Guest79388> what is the difference between xchat and xchat-gnome???
[13:13] <xQuasar_> kostkon: it keeps happening though, it happened a few times last week, i didn't think much of it, then didn't touch ubuntu again until today and it happens every time a short while after i boot into ubuntu
[13:13] <zzZhou> MATA desktop windows using the mouse upwards marginalization can achieve full-screen maximized, and now I can not. help me please !~
[13:13] <buu> wylde: Yeah.. checking around. It turns out selecting *does* copy it but only inbetween terminal windows, e.g. I can't paste into chrome
[13:13] <kostkon> xQuasar_, if your system is frozen, hold down alt-gr+prt scr and then press R+E+I+S+U+B waiting a couple of seconds after each press
[13:13] <buu> But if I right-click -> copy then I can
[13:13] <buu> Because something is being stupid
[13:14] <xQuasar_> kostkon: what does that do?
[13:14] <dixoncx_> Hi all.. I was using ubuntu 12.04 + win 7 till date. Now i wants to re-install both os. Which Ubuntu version to select ? Should i install 13.04 or 13.10 ?
[13:15] <kostkon> xQuasar_, shuts down the system, umounts your filesystems to avoid damage and then reboots
[13:15] <wylde> buu: hmmm there maybe a clipboard utility to address that. I don't know off the top of my head.
[13:16] <xQuasar_> kostkon: ok, will do, but that won't really help me find the problem right?
[13:16] <wylde> xQuasar_: not find the problem but hel pprevent new ones. Like a damaged disk.
[13:16] <kostkon> xQuasar_, no, but it will lessen the chances of completely borking your system with all those forced shutdowns :P
[13:17] <xQuasar_> BluesKaj: this is my syslog - it was also too large so i just pasted the lines dated to today http://pastebin.com/bBxPK8Sf
[13:17] <xQuasar_> it also gave the "contains invalid characters" warning when opened in gedit
[13:22] <bwayne> xQuasar_: i looked through those logs. couldn't spot anything. but, then again, i doubt those logs are from around a time the incident occurred. try using Ubuntu for a while, with a USB plugged in. when it begins happening, copy over kern.log, sys.log, and the xorg.log over to the USB stick before the system locks up. I'm not sure what further advise I can give.
[13:22] <buu> wylde: Well, there's at least one utility that does it
[13:22] <buu> Kinda awkward
[13:23] <paulus68_1> what is a good tool to run disk diagnostics
[13:23] <kostkon> xQuasar_, nothing out of the ordinary. has ubuntu offered you the option to install the nvidia driver, i couldn't help but notice you are using the open source nouvaeu driver
[13:24] <xQuasar_> bwayne: ok, thanks a lot for helping me!
[13:25] <xQuasar_> kostkon: no it hasn't, dyou think it might possibly be related to my problem? how do i install the nvidia driver? just google "nvidia driver ubuntu"?
[13:26] <bwayne> paulus68_1: gsmartcontrol will allow you to view your disks SMART info.
[13:26] <kostkon> xQuasar_, it could be, next time, try going into tty, if that is successful then it could mean that your system is not frozen but youve got some kind of graphics problem and
[13:26] <xQuasar_> kostkon: latter half of my question was dumb, ofcourse google. but do you think it might be related to my problem?
[13:27] <paulus68_1> bwayne: well the smart info gives me that status bad don't know if I can solve this somehow
[13:27] <wylde> xQuasar_: the recommended way is to use the "Additional Drivers" tool aka jockey-gtk if on Unity/gnome
[13:27] <xQuasar_> kostkon: sorry for not understanding so much but what is tty and how do i go into it?
[13:27] <kostkon> xQuasar_, to change to tty, press ctrl+alt+f4
[13:28] <wylde> paulus68_1: time to make backups and look into  new disk then ;)
[13:28] <kostkon> xQuasar_, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Computer_terminal#Types_of_text_terminals
[13:28] <paulus68_1> wylde: nothing fancy on this drive at the moment however would like to give it a try to solve this :)
[13:29] <xQuasar_> kostkon and wylde: ok thanks for the advice, i'll install the nvidia drivers now and see what happens
[13:30] <kostkon> xQuasar_, yeah go for it
[13:30] <bwayne> paulus68_1: you'll want to backup up soon and get a new disk, probably. there's a handy cloning too which will give diagnostics as it clones the disk. http://www.forensicswiki.org/wiki/Dc3dd
[13:31] <Caelum> my /etc/cron.daily/apt seems to not be running, I set APT::Periodic::Verbose "3"; but got no email for root
[13:31] <Caelum> cron says it's running cron.daily
[13:32] <wylde> paulus68_1: not sure what tools are available. A low level format MAY refresh a few sectors that aren't completely borked but beyond that I don't know.
[13:32] <bwayne> wylde: paulus68_1 : i would suggest spinrite, though it isn't free, and has no open alternative.
[13:33] <Caelum> there's a free version of spinrite on some rescue cd
[13:33] <Caelum> I think
[13:33] <wylde> bwayne: I was just about to suggest it. http://grc.com
[13:33] <buu> Using xfce/xubuntu is there any clever way to 'browse' to a samba share without cli mount/fstab stuff?
[13:34] <paulus68_1> ok thanks
[13:34] <dixoncx> Hi all.. I was using ubuntu 12.04 + win 7 till date. Now i wants to re-install both os. Which Ubuntu version to select ? Should i install 13.04 or 13.10 ? How much stable is 13,10 beta ?
[13:34] <wylde> buu: you can try (in the filemanager address bar) smb://ipaddress/sharename
[13:34] <bwayne> Caelum: really? i'd be interested in seeing that. any chance of recalling the name of the rescue cd?
[13:34] <mrrcp> install 12.04
[13:34] <lino-pc> !list
[13:34] <xQuasar_> kostkon: do i need to reboot after installing for the driver changes to take effect? sorry if this is a naive question, i'm just too used to window's prompts that tell me everything
[13:35] <kostkon> xQuasar_, yes. good luck
[13:35] <wylde> buu: you have to have samba-client installed
[13:35] <lino-pc> salve
[13:35] <maskedcody> hi
[13:38] <wylde> !13.10 | dixoncx: 13.10 is due to be released this month. The 17th I believe.
[13:39] <buu> wylde: Ohhh
[13:39] <buu> wylde: Nifty
[13:39] <wylde> :)
[13:41] <dixoncx> wylde: i know.. thats why i wants to skip 13.04. therefore can i use 13.10 beta on my development mechine ? R u using ?
[13:43] <wylde> dixoncx: nope, I typically stick with LTS. Although I've heard 13.10 has been pretty stable. Heresay though ;)
[13:43] <bwayne> i usually wait until LTS Service Pack 1. ;)
[13:46] <mrrcp> anyone know of a twostep app for ubuntu
[13:46] <mrrcp> where i can keep my keys etc
[13:46] <dixoncx> wylde: am in ubuntu 12.04 now. i heard unity improved much in newer versions. thats why i want to update (fresh install latest). Between 13.04 and 13.10 which one will be best choice ?
[13:47] <bwayne> mrrcp: what is a "twostep" app? are you referring to gpg and ssh keys?
[13:47] <wylde> dixoncx: well if you want the latest improvements 13.10 will be where you'll find them. I don't use Unity so really it's up to you. I can't speak to how stab;e it is though.
[13:48] <mrrcp> no
[13:48] <mrrcp> im talking to 2 step authentication
[13:48] <dixoncx> okey, i try my luck in 13.10..
[13:48] <mrrcp> such as google authenticator
[13:49] <dixoncx> Which Ubuntu favour will do best in virtualbox? unity is too laggy.. xubuntu ? anything else with decent window manager ?
[13:50] <Ari-Yang> !lubuntu
[13:50] <Ari-Yang> !lxde
[13:51] <wylde> dixoncx: lubuntu will likely be the "lightest"
[13:52] <bwayne> mrrcp: i'm not aware of such a desktop application. i don't think i've ever heard of a two-factor app on a desktop, and i'm skeptical of it's usefulness anyway. are there examples of these sorts of applications for other OS's?
[13:52] <wylde> does unity still have a 2d option? That alone may help.
[13:53] <dangerousdave> "There for you want to provide ruby with a certificate in the default location(and assume your dev ops guys know what they are doing). You can use dtruss to work out where the system is looking for the certificate file." how do i use dtruss to do that?
[13:53] <mrrcp> or facebook code generator
[13:53] <mrrcp> noone?
[13:54] <bwayne> mrrcp: those are smart-phone apps. do you have an example of a desktop application?
[13:54] <dixoncx> will try lubuntu .. thanks
[13:56] <floogy> Hi, I got an issue with rythmbox. Is that the default behaviour to scan the whole disk and network shares for useable streams and produce thousands of import errors due to scanning unknown formats?
[13:57] <lino-pc> salve
[13:57] <lino-pc> hi
[13:57] <floogy> It lists >11000 errors and produced an error in libgstcoreindexers.so
[13:58] <floogy> sig segfault (11)
[14:00] <AllanD> is there an EASY way to change the screen that shows as ubuntu comes up and goes down?
[14:03] <krux> switch your cables around ?..
[14:05] <faugusztin> AllanD: it is a BIOS thing, it is up to the BIOS which card it selects as primary according to their internal logic, then again it is up to the card which output it selects as primary
[14:05] <wylde> !plymouth | AllanD
[14:06] <AllanD> faugusztin: I do not mean the bios screen - I mean the one from ubuntu - the one that is DIFFERENT if I run xubuntu, kubuntu, etc.  So, clearly it is changeable
[14:06] <bwayne> AllanD: see wylde's answer
[14:07] <AllanD> wylde: ty for the ubottu advice that is what I wanted - haven't tried it yet - but looks good
[14:07] <wylde> AllanD: also https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Plymouth :)
[14:08] <bwayne> i wonder if I could make mine a cat gif
[14:08] <wylde> bwayne: you could :) With a little work.
[14:09] <floogy> Why in the world is rhyshmbox scanning *.log and *.iso files to stream them?
[14:09] <wylde> floogy: check your settings? Is there an option to ignore file extensions?
[14:09] <floogy> wylde, didn't find one...
[14:11] <bwayne> ooooh .... ubuntu-logo.script ... thx wylde. i must have kitteh gif
[14:12] <wylde> bwayne: lol. Do some reading first. It may have to be particular dimensions and file type.
[14:12] <bwayne> wylde: oh.     it'll happen.
[14:12] <wylde> bwayne: it's been a long time since I played with plymouth
[14:13] <floogy> maybe splashy can handle that too?
[14:13] <bwayne> i don't care what it takes. i will have disco cat when I boot ubuntu.
[14:14] <wylde> floogy: not having much luck on rythmbox on askubuntu :(
[14:16] <wotan147> anyone experienced with canon printer on ubuntu ?
[14:16] <wylde> floogy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Rhythmbox may have some info?
[14:17] <h1n1> Sup
[14:19] <ZIPY_> hi, how can i refer a sopcast url open with sopcast player?
[14:20] <ZIPY_> when i click the link i can choose an aplication, but what application file should i select?
[14:22] <wylde> ZIPY_: in terminal 'which sopcast-player' will give you the path to the binary
[14:23] <jack> i wish i knew why ubuntu stopped using "adept"
[14:23] <ZIPY_> wow that worked, thx
[14:23] <jack> synaptic is good too, no doubt
[14:23] <wylde> ZIPY_: np :)
[14:23] <jack> but adept was so cool
[14:24] <gulag2013> "Which" very useful thank you.
[14:24] <camel__> who can use python program
[14:24] <camel__> give me some advice
[14:25] <wylde> camel__: anyone? Give some more detail about your question please
[14:26] <wylde> !python | camel__
[14:27] <jack> py3 is scary though
[14:27] <jack> use 2.7 if you don't want confusion
[14:28] <bwayne> confusion ...
[14:28] <camel__> why
[14:29] <camel__> py3 is very different from py2.7 ,is it?
[14:29] <snake_> I have a question about my network and internet connection, is that valid and ontopic here?
[14:29] <bwayne> snake_: so long as you're using ubuntu or a supported derivative.
[14:31] <snake_> bwayne, I am using ubuntu :) here is my question: I have ssh server running but I turned off port forwarding until I have time to make a key pair login. However I still have one port that is not the ssh-servers port open. Could someone use a socket or w/e to connect to port 22 through this open port? say port 3000
[14:33] <bwayne> snake_: i'm not savvy enough to give you a definitive answer to that exact question. but my suggestion would be to stop sshd until you've created the key pair.
[14:34] <wylde> snake_: only if whatever application listening on that open port can be compromised to provide access to your system ;)
[14:34] <snake_> bwayne, that is a good suggestion, I did that real quick
[14:34] <snake_> wylde, I'm uncertain if the application using it is secure :c
[14:35] <wylde> snake_: then I assume you don't have that port opened to the world through your router?
[14:35] <bwayne> snake_: i have open ports for other servies, e.g. bittorent, and I see nothing on my auth.log that makes me suspicious. i use key authentication only, and i'm the only user that is able to log in. i also use fail2ban to ban any ip that tries to connect 6 times in 3 day and bans them for a year.
[14:36] <wylde> snake_: if it's not forwarded out to the internet then no, unless you have security concerns on your internal network.
[14:37] <h1n1> It depend on you paranoid level too ha ツ
[14:37] <snake_> wylde, It is a p2p connection.
[14:37] <snake_> is forwarded
[14:38] <snake_> bwayne, ok so I'll just keep ssh off until I get the key login set up and then it should be ok.
[14:38] <snake_> h1n1, haha
[14:38] <h1n1> Lol
[14:40] <bwayne> it's my understanding that port scanning is typically limited in range by crackers since scanning all 50,000 some-odd ports on all computers isn't feasible. but i'm not sure of that. most bots looking for ssh, i've found are trying to log in as root. disabling root login, and allowing only users that log in, using key auth, will pretty much remove the knob on your ssh door. but i'm no wizard.
[14:41] <wylde> snake_: then IF that application has vulnerabilties it could be compromised as is with any open ports. If you're unsure of the application being secure it shouldn't be used :P. Do some research to determine how safe that application is. Also if in doubt look into fail2ban, I use it on my VPS and it works quite well, on top of using a non-standard port :)
[14:42] <snake_> bwayne, yeah. key pairs are good. :)
[14:42] <bwayne> snake_: the only way to go, imo.
[14:42] <snake_> wylde, what I've gathered so far is that it is indeed secure.
[14:43] <bwayne> snake_: it all boils down to trust. using an open-source client goes a long way. but still ... there's a great article, i forget the author, called "trusting trust", which is good reading.
[14:43] <Caelum> how long are backports and security updates for a release maintained?
[14:44] <wylde> snake_: just moving sshd off of port 22 exponentially reduces the number of port scans that will even see your server.
[14:45] <snake_> Caelum, it updates through git quite often I think. just a few days after I downloaded it there was an update.
[14:45] <bwayne> Caelum: ubuntu has your definitive answer. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LTS
[14:45] <Caelum> what if you're not using lts
[14:45] <snake_> oh. nvm my response xD I thought it was about the app i was using
[14:46] <bwayne> Caelum: from the page: "You get free security updates for at least 9 months on the desktop and server. "
[14:46] <Caelum> lol
[14:46] <Marlenee> why apt-get keep show me all this error http://paste.ubuntu.com/6196783/
[14:47] <bwayne> Caelum: you find that unreasonable for non-LTS?
[14:48] <Caelum> that page makes no sense whatsoever
[14:48] <bwayne> Caelum: file a bug report.
[14:49] <Caelum> "The LTS designation applies only to specific subsets of the Ubuntu archive."
[14:49] <Caelum> so how do I know what is LTS and what is not LTS
[14:49] <bwayne> !LTS
[14:50] <bwayne> the next will be 14.04.
[14:50] <Marlenee> my problem ^^
[14:50] <Caelum> ok, so there are about two releases a year and 9 months of security/backports per release?
[14:51] <Rory> Marlenee: What Ubuntu version are you using?
[14:52] <Marlenee> Rory : VERSION="12.04.3 LTS, Precise Pangolin"
[14:52] <Rory> Marlenee: Please run the following in the terminal to download a run a script which fixes errors in the package manager: "wget rory.sh/fixpackages; sh fixpackages"
[14:52] <SuperEngineer> Am I the only one who's Gwibber has stopped updating from Facebook as of 3 days ago?
[14:52] <SuperEngineer> [in fact it doesn't even show "Refreshing" anymore]
[14:53] <wylde> Marlenee: also...you really shouldn't be running as root.... just sayin'
[14:54] <Marlenee> Rory : http://paste.ubuntu.com/6196815/
[14:54] <hellohhh> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zKom9uIUT3o
[14:54] <Rory> Marlenee: Please run the following in the terminal to download a run a script which fixes errors in the package manager: "wget rory.sh/fixpackages; sh fixpackages"
[14:55] <bwayne> wow. "  Package passwd is not configured yet."
[14:55] <Marlenee> Rory : ok iam doing this now
[14:56] <wylde> ...even a segfault o_O
[14:57] <Rory> Marlenee: Be honest: Why is your package manager giving you so many errors? When did it start happening?
[14:58] <french_baguette> hello all
[14:59] <Marlenee> Rory : its start happen now
[15:00] <linuxearth> how do i install ubuntu lts to pendrive? i tried but i was not able to do what to do in the partitioning setup and how to create the partitions in pen drive of size 64 gb
[15:00] <Rory> Marlenee: OK it can take a few minutes
[15:00] <Marlenee> Rory : http://paste.ubuntu.com/6196838/
[15:00] <wylde> Marlenee: did you add a PPA(s)?
[15:00] <Marlenee> see this log ^^
[15:01] <Marlenee> wylde : yes
[15:01] <ivaldi> hi - where is the best place to put "iw" commands? (creating interfaces with "iw" and stuff like this - should i write a new init script?)
[15:01] <Marlenee> wylde : add-apt-repository ppa:antono/shelr
[15:03] <Marlenee> Rory : nothing change Segmentation fault (core dumped)
[15:04] <wylde> Marlenee: you have to be careful using 3rd party ppa's. They can wreak havoc on  your system. They are also unsupported by ubuntu.
[15:04] <Rory> Marlenee: I believe actually it should now be fixed - try doing whatever you were doing before to produce the error
[15:04] <Rory> Marlenee: Oh sorry one second
[15:05] <Rory> That shelr repo should be fine it shouldn't cause these problems.
[15:05] <Marlenee> iam trying to install -  sudo apt-get install extplorer
[15:05] <Rory> Marlenee: Can you please run "sudo apt-get -f install"
[15:06] <bwayne> that ppa has a 30% build failure rate. not sure how much i'd trust it.
[15:07] <Marlenee> Rory : check this http://paste.ubuntu.com/6196875/
[15:09] <Rory> Marlenee: Err... for some reason it thought you said no. Do it again and there should be some output after you say Y
[15:10] <Marlenee> no there's no output after pressing Y it stopped
[15:12] <czoken> Hello
[15:12] <Marlenee> Rory : can i remove all pkg and install it again to evade this erroes
[15:12] <czoken> I'm pretty new in ubuntu, and i have problem with sound. On headphones it plays normal, but when i want to use speakers it does not. On windows all was all right
[15:12] <Marlenee> *errors
[15:13] <Star-Flower> czoken, are you using the same port?
[15:13] <czoken> Those are notebook integrated speakers
[15:13] <Star-Flower> what brand and model laptop?
[15:13] <czoken> Hp 620
[15:14] <zykotick9> czoken: open "alsamixer" from terminal, is anything turned down or muted MM at bottom?
[15:14] <czoken> I did it already zykotick9 all was all right
[15:15] <Rory> Marlenee: Can you please run "sudo apt-get -fy install" that will not ask you, it will just assume Yes
[15:16] <cgtdk> Do I really need to install "account-plugin-facebook" (and a bunch of other junk) to install lightdm?
[15:17] <czoken> No ideas about that sound? :/
[15:17] <Star-Flower> czoken, I found a link to a bug report where someone had posted they fixed the problem.
[15:17] <Star-Flower> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/269027
[15:17] <otak> you can use the option --no-install-recommends with apt-get
[15:17] <Star-Flower> post #5
[15:17] <czoken> Thanks, ill check that
[15:18] <cgtdk> otak: thanks, that cut the junk by 700 MB :)
[15:18] <Marlenee> Rory : nothing change see this http://paste.ubuntu.com/6196910/
[15:18] <zykotick9> cgtdk: careful using --no-install-recommends.  you might end up missing some important stuff...
[15:19] <cgtdk> zykotick9: I am. Installing lightdm with that flag doesn't even give me video drivers. :)
[15:20] <czoken> Star-Flower: I can't install this package
[15:20] <zykotick9> cgtdk: do you not currently have Xorg installed?  if so, DON'T install xorg with that!
[15:20] <Star-Flower> czoken, does it give you errors?
[15:20] <cgtdk> zykotick9: No, I did a minimal install.
[15:21] <zykotick9> cgtdk: take smaller steps, install Xorg, install your DE/WM, then install lightdm.
[15:21] <cgtdk> just installed xorg
[15:21] <jack> Griswoldz, diablo player?
[15:21] <cgtdk> sure
[15:21] <czoken> (Reading database ... 196239 files and directories currently installed.) Unpacking alsa-driver-linuxant (from .../alsa-driver-linuxant_1.0.18.0_all.deb) ... Setting up alsa-driver-linuxant (1.0.18.0) ... Building modules for the 3.2.0-54-generic-pae kernel, please wait... done. ERROR: Build failed. Please review the build log at /tmp/alsa-driver-linuxant.4654.log dpkg: error processing alsa-driver-linuxant (--install):  subprocess insta
[15:21] <centaurus> Hi  i  want to buy some ubuntu products  such as caps , T-sirt , pens    whould you ship/deliver them to me to my country ????
[15:22] <zykotick9> centaurus: that's not a tech-support style question.  email canonical's store about questions like that.
[15:22] <wylde> centaurus: check at http://www.ubuntu.com ?
[15:22] <czoken> returned error exit status 1 Processing triggers for ureadahead ... ureadahead will be reprofiled on next reboot Errors were encountered while processing:  alsa-driver-linuxant
[15:23] <Star-Flower> czoken, can you use pastebin.ubuntu.com and post the log at /tmp/alsa-driver-linuxant.4654.log
[15:23] <cgtdk> Any good alternatives to lightdm (not gdm)? Something lightweight
[15:24] <zykotick9> !info slim | cgtdk i'm not sure you'd call it "good" but it's about as light as a DM is gonna get
[15:25] <czoken> Star-Flower: terminal says that acces denied
 i already sent a message to the store  but i need an instant answer , is there any chat room where i can get answers ??
[15:25] <Rory> Marlenee: Can you stop running your shell as root?
[15:25] <zykotick9> centaurus: not that i'm aware of..
[15:26] <cgtdk> zykotick9: I'll try with lightdm then
[15:27] <Star-Flower> czoken, ok give me just a few minutes and i'll be back
[15:31] <czoken> Okay then
[15:32] <lucky___> hello, anyone who use tewrangled could help me with search and replace?
[15:38] <uvala> hello there! I downloaded latest v. Blender, and it doesn't start by clicking on blender.exe as it did before.
[15:39] <Squarepy> oh dear
[15:39] <Zhaofeng_Li> uvala: You need to download the Linux version of Blender
[15:40] <Zhaofeng_Li> ...assuming you are using Ubuntu
[15:40] <uvala> Zhaofeng_Li , yes I downloaded Linux one
[15:41] <uvala> also yes, I have ubuntu
[15:41] <Squarepy> yes, so you don´t have a blender.exe
[15:41] <Squarepy> uvala,
[15:41] <BluesKaj> uvala, the .exe  exten is for windows
[15:41] <Zhaofeng_Li> Then, why it has .exe suffix?
[15:42] <uvala> sorry, it was meant for the sake of narration :) I wanted to say that I used to start it by clicking on the executable file named "blender"
[15:42] <uvala> and clicking on it now doesnt open the program
[15:43] <Squarepy> :)
[15:44] <Squarepy> ok, try running it from a terminal
[15:44] <BluesKaj> uvala, what's the file extension ?
[15:44] <Squarepy> see if an error pops up
[15:44] <Squarepy> should be a missing dependency or other
[15:45] <Zhaofeng_Li> uvala: Have you tried launching it from the terminal and see if any (error) message comes out?
[15:45] <uvala> Squarepy, because I downloaded it straight from the website and not from repo, it says: The program 'blender' is currently not installed.  You can install it by typing:
[15:45] <uvala> sudo apt-get install blender
[15:45] <Lewes> Hello.
[15:45] <czoken> Hey
[15:45] <uvala> Zhaofeng_Li , in the above message it tells me that it is not installed.
[15:46] <Squarepy> uvala, run it directly in the terminal, by selecting the path to the executable
[15:46] <kawaii_nekox3_gi> Hey
[15:46] <uvala> oh ok
[15:46] <Lewes> Me and my friend have a problem:
[15:46] <Lewes> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=41yQYIGKG9A
[15:46] <kawaii_nekox3_gi> Could someone help me please with my python school assignment? I'm struggling with a task :(
[15:46] <Squarepy> uvala, it is not added to the path that´s all
[15:46] <kawaii_nekox3_gi> i posted the question on etherpad: http://openetherpad.org/p/py
[15:46] <zykotick9> uvala: you'll do better, sticking to ubuntu packages...
[15:46] <Squarepy> kawaii_nekox3_gi, python, here, homework, meehh
[15:46] <kawaii_nekox3_gi> hmm?
[15:46] <kawaii_nekox3_gi> o_O i know!
[15:47] <uvala> Squarepy, is it just I type the path and press enter?
[15:47] <Seb1929> hi
[15:47] <Lewes> Me and Seb1929 have an issue: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=41yQYIGKG9A Ubuntu goes to a blackscreen after boot.
[15:47] <Squarepy> uvala, f.i. go to the folder then ./blender...etc
[15:47] <Zhaofeng_Li> uvala: like /some/path/to/blender
[15:47] <zykotick9> !nomodeset | Lewes
[15:48] <uvala> yes, I mean just the path and enter , nothing else?
[15:48] <Squarepy> no why
[15:49] <Zhaofeng_Li> uvala: You first type "cd /the/directory/blender/is/in" and enter
[15:49] <craftyguy> Hi, I have an issue on Ubuntu 13.10 Beta where wpa_supplicant crashes on login. The ubuntu bug reporting app keeps saying the bug has already been reported on launchpad (https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1210875), however this bug doesn't seem to exist. What's up with that?
[15:49] <Zhaofeng_Li> uvala: Then you type "./blender" to launch it
[15:49] <fudus> that means it is private craftyguy
[15:50] <zykotick9> craftyguy: for 13.10, reask your question in #ubuntu+1 as it's not supported here.
[15:50] <craftyguy> fudus: thank you. why would this be private?
[15:51] <craftyguy> zykotick9: my question doesn't appear to really be specific to 13.10..
[15:51] <Savant> Lewes: Dang! I watched that whole video but the error is like.. meaningless
[15:51] <uvala> Zhaofeng_Li , it says :    bash: ./blender: No such file or directory
[15:51] <fudus> Probably because it involves passwords, so it is only shown to Canonical staffers.
[15:51] <zykotick9> craftyguy: doesn't matter.  13.10 isn't supported here, yet.
[15:51] <Savant> Lewes: You should add some details to the video, Ubuntu version, maybe add the text of the error
[15:51] <Savant> "Out of range !"
[15:51] <Zhaofeng_Li> uvala: Have you cd'd to the directory yet?
[15:51] <czoken> Okay i see, that Star-Flower does not appear. Can someone help me with sound bug on ubuntu? Built in speakers doesnt work but headphones do
[15:51] <uvala> oh one second I need to correct it
[15:52] <craftyguy> fudus: ok, so when you come across a bug that is private and not able to automatically create a new bug with the reporting app, is it good practice to file another bug manually?
[15:52] <Lewes> Savant: Ubuntu Server 64bit 12.04 happy :)
[15:53] <uvala> Zhaofeng_Li , I did this and came this: ~/Desktop/blender-2.68a-linux-glibc211-x86_64$ ./blender
[15:53] <uvala> bash: ./blender: cannot execute binary file
[15:53] <fudus> No, it is already in the system, they'll have a look at it eventually.
[15:53] <uvala> Zhaofeng_Li , so it says it cannot execute it
[15:53] <fudus> It is the weekend so it'll be delayed.
[15:54] <zykotick9> uvala: why don't you use the blender which is in ubuntu repo?  this seems like a make-work project.
[15:54] <craftyguy> yep, understood. hey thanks for the clarification, i was confused why it was not able to find a bug that supposedly existed :)
[15:55] <Zhaofeng_Li> uvala: Are you using the 64bit version of Ubuntu?
[15:55] <uvala> zykotick9, I haven't checked the current version in the repo, but it was quite an earlier one when I last downloaded it from there
[15:55] <zykotick9> uvala: so?
[15:55] <uvala> and blender is updating quite often lately
[15:55] <Zhaofeng_Li> Zyl
[15:55] <Zhaofeng_Li> Sorry
[15:56] <uvala> Zhaofeng_Li , yes, it is 64bit
[15:56] <fudus> There's probably a PPA that'll do all the work for you instead
[15:56] <craftyguy> zykotick9: you way want to consider adding something in the channel msg about support for betas is in #ubuntu+1
[15:57] <Savant> Lewes: Has the OS ever booted? Is this a fresh install?
[15:58] <fudus> https://launchpad.net/~irie/+archive/blender
[15:58] <czoken> So, can someone help me with that sound?
[15:59] <uvala> just checked the version for Blender in the repo. it is 2.62. whereas the current one is 2.68
[16:00] <OerHeks> craftyguy, i find multiple bug reports https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/wpa/+bug/1230174 & https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/wpa/+bug/1215534
[16:00] <zykotick9> !latest | uvala
[16:00] <fudus> czoken: Try askubuntu?
[16:01] <czoken> I have no idea what it is
[16:01] <fudus> https://launchpad.net/~irie/+archive/blender Has 2.68
[16:01] <uvala> zykotick9, that's perfectly ok :) I was just referring to it as an answer to your question.
[16:01] <Lewes> Savant: Fresh install
[16:02] <Zhaofeng_Li> uvala: that's wicked. You may try a... what fudus said
[16:02] <fudus> http://askubuntu.com/search?q=sound+speakers+don't+work
[16:02] <fudus> Only problem with sound I had I fixed by rebooting so can't help personally.
[16:03] <raul_p> hey guys, i want to super-secure my lamp stack ( vritual hosting, multi domains ). i was thinking to use apparmor. also, php-fpm ( so each user runs his own php as his user ). what i want is that if 1 account get's hacked, for that account to not be able to affect all other accounts. any suggestions ?
[16:03] <uvala> fudus, thank you! ppa is the latest indeed
[16:06] <Lewes> [Error writing /etc/default/grub: Read-only file system] How to make it write?
[16:10] <Lewes> [Error writing /etc/default/grub: Read-only file system] How to make it write?
[16:11] <zykotick9> Lewes: see http://askubuntu.com/questions/175739/how-do-i-remount-a-filesystem-as-read-write
[16:11] <Lewes> zykotick9: What command do I put in then?
[16:12] <Lewes> I'm not very use to this partition system
[16:12] <Ntemis> hello
[16:12] <Ntemis> here it goes
[16:13] <Ntemis> server latest kernel on it but still shows 12.04.2
[16:13] <Ntemis> my desktop shows x.3
[16:13] <Ntemis> how i fix this?
[16:13] <justaguy> reboot?
[16:13] <Ntemis> i did
[16:13] <Ntemis> something is missing?
[16:13] <Ntemis> package
[16:14] <Ntemis> i clean up the nand from old kernels because was getting full
[16:14] <Ntemis> and now i cant update properly
[16:14] <Ntemis> i mean i did manually update but it seems am missing a package
[16:15] <Ntemis> all ok though os side
[16:15] <chimay> meta2-1;2A /buffer -1
[16:18] <Zampson> Hey everyone. I set up a Samba share, and it worked for a while, but after I set up vsftpd and pptpd, the share is only accessible via IP, and not the share or the server show up on the network.
[16:18] <Zampson> I allowed port 445 and 139 through ufw, but i  must be missing something
[16:22] <Rory> Ntemis: Do you get an error when you try to update?
[16:22] <Eddy81>  hello, does anyone know why google clears  search page when i search something and go to some website and then i decide to go back to search results ?
[16:23] <Rory> Lewes: sudo mount -o remount,rw /partition/identifier /mount/point
[16:23] <Lewes> *hits head* I meant to reconfigure grub.
[16:23] <Rory> Lewes: sudo update-grub
[16:23] <Lewes> Nooo
[16:23] <Lewes> We're changing GRUB config
[16:24] <xan_IT> need help. i have server with ubuntu 12.04, i can access via SSH but when i try to connect via SAMBA doesent works. some day ago works fine. i need to access to home folder of user. anyone can try to help me using console ?
[16:24] <Lewes> [Error writing /etc/default/grub: Read-only file system]
[16:24] <Rory> Yes Lewes and you need to remount the filesystem as read-write
[16:24] <Rory> Lewes: Obviously replace /partition/identifier and /mount/point with the actual values - if you don't know them, please run the command "mount" and put the output on http://paste.ubuntu.com
[16:25] <czoken> Edit (or create) /etc/asound.conf with your favorite text editor (as root). Put the following contents in it (replace X and Y by the card and device numbers you saw): pcm.!default {       type plug slave.pcm {             type hw card X device Y       } } Then save, exit and reboot. I stuck here, how to do that?
[16:26] <raul_p> hey guys, i want to super-secure my lamp stack ( vritual hosting, multi domains ). i was thinking to use apparmor. also, php-fpm ( so each user runs his own php as his user ). what i want is that if 1 account get's hacked, for that account to not be able to affect all other accounts. any suggestions ?
[16:26] <Rory> czoken: How do you do which part?
[16:28] <czoken> Rory: Its Procedure Ad (Switch default sound card)
[16:28] <Rory> czoken: Are you following a guide? I don't understand what you mean by "Procedure Ad" sorry.
[16:29] <czoken> Oh, yes I do. I do follow this guide https://docs.google.com/document/d/1iTlJ8BfqXUjaHO__TEdlkvuqB1WLOkGaudngc5SFLMI/edit?pli=1
[16:32] <Ntemis> Rory: no errors
[16:35] <Rory> czoken: Can you please run the command "aplay -l" and put the output on http://paste.ubuntu.com
[16:36] <czoken> Rory: But i have ubuntu in polish, is that ok, or i have to do something?
[16:38] <Rory> czoken: The command is the same
[16:38] <Rory> !polish | czoken perhaps ask in here too
[16:39] <Marlenee> what si init script for to run mysqld
[16:39] <czoken> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/6197195/ Its this pasta Rory, if you mind, ill ask in ubuntu polish too
[16:40] <mr_boo> hi
[16:40] <atb> hey
[16:40] <atb> my speakers aren't playing any sound all of a sudden
[16:40] <atb> i tried rebooting and resetting pulseaudio
[16:40] <czoken> !polish
[16:40] <xan_IT> need help. i have server with ubuntu 12.04, i can access via SSH but when i try to connect via SAMBA doesent works. some day ago works fine. i need to access to home folder of user. anyone can try to help me using console ?
[16:40] <czoken> #ubuntu-pl
[16:41] <mr_boo> how do i search for multiple file names at once such as a list of say fileA.bin fileB.bin fileC.bin and so on?
[16:41] <wylde> mr_boo: ls *.bin
[16:41] <atb> anyone able to help?
[16:41] <mr_boo> wylde: i want those specific files only
[16:41] <Rory> czoken: I think you will be better helped there. It may be slower to reply than here.
[16:42] <mr_boo> wylde: not all bin files
[16:42] <Rory> atb: Are they turned on? Are they turned up if they have a physical volume control?
[16:42] <overdub> mr_boo, find /directory -type f -name "file?.bin"
[16:42] <czoken> Rory: Thanks i'll try in polish
[16:42] <Naeblis> Hello. I'm running Xubuntu Precise on my laptop. And I'm a problem that I can't log in. The screen that asks for the password doesn't show, and I get a few messages like "checking battery state [ok]". The last message is "could not open a connection to your authentciation agent", and the screen gets stuck there.
[16:42] <Rory> atb: Is the volume turned up in Ubuntu? run the "alsamixer" command - use the arrow keys
[16:43] <Naeblis> If I press the shut down button, I get a couple more messages and it shuts down fine, though.
[16:43] <atb> rory: they're turned on, and the volume is up
[16:43] <mr_boo> overdub: the names i gave where arbitary i need to have a list of specific names
[16:43] <overdub> mr_boo, that will only work if the number in the file is one digit
[16:43] <atb> Rory: trying the alsamixer thing now
[16:43] <Rory> Naeblis: If you press Ctrl+Alt+F1 you will get to a login screen. Can you log in OK with your user credentials using this?
[16:43] <mr_boo> i want to be able to have a list or a file with filenames and be able to list if those exists
[16:43] <mr_boo> can this be done in ubuntu?
[16:44] <Rory> atb: The alsamixer thing *is* the volume control, but OK
[16:44] <atb> Rory: yeah, everything in alsamixer is turned up
[16:44] <Rory> mr_boo: Yes, ask in #bash
[16:44] <czoken> Rory: No one responds in polish :/
[16:45] <Naeblis> Rory: yes, I logged in
[16:45] <atb> Rory: i don't know if this could have caused this, but i killed Wine from the terminal because a program wasn't closing, and the program was using an fmod DLL
[16:45] <FourFire> Hello
[16:45] <FourFire> I am looking at disk usage analyzer
[16:46] <Marlenee> what is init script for to run mysql server ?
[16:46] <FourFire> and in my main Linux partition there seems to be a mirror image of usage
[16:46] <FourFire> (with one extra level on one side
[16:46] <FourFire> )
[16:46] <FourFire> there's all my stuff
[16:47] <Galvatron> Hi
[16:47] <FourFire> abnd then there are some things which are exactly the same size with odd hash names
[16:47] <Lewes> We put in nomodeset and this happened: it did show Ubuntu login for 5 seconds then went black
[16:47] <Rory> Naeblis: From that shell, run the command: "sudo chown username: .Xauthority" - replacing "username" with your actual username
[16:47] <Rory> Marlenee: sudo service mysql start
[16:47] <FourFire> called ".ecryptfs"
[16:47] <FourFire> what is this, and how does it work?
[16:48] <Rory> atb: If you log in as another user, or the guest user, does the problem persist?
[16:48] <Rory> FourFire: It means you have set up an encrypted home directory
[16:48] <Marlenee> Rory : mysql: unrecognized service
[16:48] <atb> Rory: i'm the only user
[16:48] <Naeblis> Rory: done
[16:48] <Rory> Marlenee: Is mysql actually installed?
[16:48] <atb> Rory: i'm reinstalling pulseaudio to see if this works
[16:48] <FourFire> Rory: is that good?
[16:48] <Rory> FourFire: I don't know, you tell me? You did it
[16:49] <Rory> atb: Try the guest user
[16:49] <FourFire> I don't know how I did it
[16:49] <Rory> FourFire: Probably during the installation, there's a tick box
[16:49] <FourFire> I probably randomly ticked a box--yes
[16:49] <Rory> FourFire: You probably thought encrypted home directory sounded really cool, and ticked it
[16:49] <Rory> FourFire: It won't cause you problems probably
[16:49] <FourFire> but why do all my files take 2x the space then
[16:49] <Marlenee> Rory : yes sure
[16:50] <FourFire> (I'm finding myself low on space
[16:50] <FourFire> )
[16:50] <Galvatron> After playing the Steam version of Final Fantasy 7 through the laest version of Wine from the PPA my 12.04.3  (the "Raring" HWE stack) started to reset the resolution and refrest rate every time X gets restarted.  I've already tried reinstalling X and remoxing .config/moonitors.xml - to no avail. My GPU is a 7300GT + NV drivers 304.88.
[16:50] <Rory> FourFire: They don't really it just looks that way.
[16:50] <FourFire> it's a problem which I will shortly solve by upgrading my storage medium, but I'd like to know what it does/how it works too
[16:50] <wylde> FourFire: technically they don't (it looks that way because the encrypted filesystem that actually takes up space is mounted to a directory)
[16:50] <Rory> FourFire: The real files are encrypted, and the encrypted container is mounted. The files are decrypted and presented to the system as if they were actually there
[16:50] <Rory> FourFire: Your low disk space issue is unrelated to encryption
[16:51] <FourFire> ok
[16:51] <Rory> Marlenee: How did you install the MySQL server?
[16:51] <linuxearth> please tell me the way to how install linux to pen drive, size: 64 GB
[16:51] <atb> Rory: tried the guest session, still no audio
[16:52] <kanha> linuxearth: burn linux iso in a pendrive
[16:52] <Rory> atb: Can you install the package "pavucontrol" and run it - this is the Pulse Audio configuration program
[16:53] <Rory> atb: Use that to check levels, and to make sure the correct output device is selected in Pulse
[16:53] <kanha> linuxearth: you can use startup disk creator for burning iso image to pendrive
[16:53] <linuxearth> kanha: yes but how?
[16:53] <Rory> linuxearth: Do you mean to create a Live CD, or to actually install Ubuntu *to* the pen drive?
[16:53] <Naeblis> so should I now be rebooting?
[16:53] <atb> Rory: it gave me an error; http://pastebin.com/61t3iWiE
[16:53] <linuxearth> how? because in pen drive i want to put ubuntu but i have opensuse installed right now
[16:53] <Rory> linuxearth: What are you planning to use the pen drive for? To install Ubuntu with onto your actual PC?
[16:53] <linuxearth> i actually want to install Ubuntu *to* the pen drive
[16:54] <FourFire> thanks for the info!
[16:54] <linuxearth> yes
[16:54] <linuxearth> ok
[16:54] <linuxearth> i actually want to install Ubuntu *to* the pen drive
[16:54] <atb> Rory: wow, it magically started working :D
[16:54] <atb> Rory: thanks for the help anyway
[16:54] <sarah33> hello everyone. I just installed ubuntu on my laptop (sell with windows 8) but there is many problems, wifi card isn't recognize but the main problem is that all the system is lagging
[16:55] <linuxearth> i have currently opensuse installed, but i want to try ubuntu and if it would suit (for which i am hopeful), i would install to pc, i at first want to install it to pendrive and let the pc boot from pen drive
[16:55] <Rory> Easiest fix ever
[16:55] <linuxearth> so how do i proceed that's my doubt kanha
[16:55] <Rory> sarah33: We should fix your issues one at a time. Does the system have a make and model?
[16:56] <Rory> linuxearth: You can just use a LiveUSB right? You can use unetbootin
[16:56] <kanha> linuxearth: do you have startup disk creator app in opensuse?
[16:56] <sarah33> this is a hp pavillion
[16:57] <sarah33> Idon't know where I can found the exact model
[16:57] <Rory> sarah33: There are a lot of HP Pavillions, is there a more specific model number on a sticker somewhere?
[16:57] <linuxearth> kanha: i don;'t know
[16:57] <sarah33> one second I will check the bill
[16:58] <linuxearth> it is much advanced (thatt's why switching to ubuntu)
[16:58] <Rory> sarah33: It will be somewhere on the device
[16:58] <linuxearth> Rory: unetbootin? what's that?
[16:58] <kanha> check out in apps
[16:58] <sarah33> HP Pavilion 17-e027sf
[16:58] <Rory> Thank you sarah33
[16:59] <Rory> sarah33: What version of Ubuntu are you using?
[16:59] <linuxearth> ok wait
[16:59] <linuxearth> i tell
[16:59] <kanha> linuxearth: or follow the instruction here http://askubuntu.com/questions/197845/from-terminal-how-make-a-live-usb-for-all-distros-not-only-for-ubuntu  to make live usb from terminal
[16:59] <linuxearth> oh i check
[16:59] <linuxearth> that
[17:01] <sarah33> Rory, I have viewed this message at the startup: microcode: failled to load file amd-ucode/microcode_amd_fam16h.bin
[17:01] <sarah33> maybe this is the reason why the system is very low
[17:02] <Rory> sarah33: What version of Ubuntu are you using?
[17:02] <OerHeks> sarah33, sudo apt-get install amd64-microcode # and reboot
[17:04] <Rory> I need to go out now - anyone who wants to help sarah33 she needs to get her Atheros AR9000 working, she won't say what Ubuntu version she's using
[17:04] <sarah33> the last version
[17:04] <sarah33> 13.10
[17:04] <Rory> !13.10 | sarah33
[17:05] <sarah33> how can I know my version? I have tried uname -a but I don't see the os version
[17:06] <zykotick9> sarah33: "lsb_release -a"
[17:06] <OerHeks> cat /etc/issue
[17:06] <sarah33> but I'm sure I have the last one, I have updated the system right after install
[17:06] <sarah33> ok 13.04 my bad
[17:07] <Naeblis> ok found that my problem is pretty much this: http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/30030/xubuntu-oneiric-wont-start-xfce
[17:07] <Naeblis> (for precise)
[17:11] <vincenzo> ciao a tutti
[17:12] <vincenzo> ce qualcuno che mi puo aiutare per ubuntu?
[17:13] <DJones> !it | vincenzo
[17:16] <Slaman> vmeson
[17:17] <vmeson> Slaman?
[17:22] <gassho> huh
[17:22] <gassho> what happen
[17:22] <gassho> y thank you chano
[17:22] <gassho> chanserv
[17:23] <iDangerMouse> May I assist you with anything ?
[17:23] <gassho> how did that 'lemme google dat' work?
[17:28] <Naeblis> huh. Reinstalling the nvidia driver did the trick.
[17:29] <Naeblis> though I wonder what went wrong in the first place. Been using it just fine for over a year
[17:38] <jdoles> How can I setup encrypted LVM for a new installation of Ubuntu LTS (the installation hasn't been done yet)?
[17:39] <jdoles> When I google I see old documents on the wiki (really useful to have those hanging around)
[17:47] <dmobley88> I'm wondering if ubuntu 13.10 has a program that will find and delete duplicate files on my hard drive...
[17:47] <bekks> dmobley88: Thats crossposting.
[17:47] <reisio> dmobley88: fdupes
[18:05] <Rev> hello all
[18:05] <zykotick9> dmobley88: fslint is a nice gui for such things
[18:07] <Rev> i just noticed that my computer significantly slowed down since some weeks. I am suspecting that a data hard drive is at the end of its life
[18:07] <Rev> is it possible that 1 hard drive which is not / or /home could still slow down the whole system?
[18:08] <Rev> and how could i check that? by unmounting the disk and seeing if its faster?
[18:08] <Rev> or should i completely unplug the disk?
[18:09] <sammy> so logging in with lightdm, the desktop (through EDID?) automagically finds the full resolution of the screen, but all my ttys are 4:3, shoved to the left of the screen. lightdm is also obviously stretched. I don't need to mess with any kernel cmdline in grub- maybe since this is an old install (ubuntu 11.x?) there's some cruft I need to remove?
[18:09] <sammy> Rev: what makes you think its this disk?
[18:10] <sammy> Rev: you could always unmount it, sure, and that would tell you if its the drive. but like you said, if the mount doesn't contain system files or your swap file, it shouldn't be chugging along for seemingly no reason
[18:10] <Dr_Willis> dmesg command would mention somthing if the drive isself is having errors also
[18:11] <sammy> ^ that. `dmesg | grep hdX` is your friend
[18:11] <Dr_Willis> its normally sdx these days ;)
[18:11] <paulus68_1> Hi I want to install a ubuntu server on a hp Proliant ML310 during the install I get the question if I want to configure iSCSI volumes and then I get the question on what Ip my target and origine is? how to procede here
[18:12] <Dr_Willis> paulus68_1:  so you have iscsi volumes on your setup?
[18:12] <sammy> erm yes lol I'm not old I swear
[18:13] <Rev> sammy, Dr_Willis well, the commands dont return anything specific, but i had trouble to access data on the disk earlier
[18:14] <dangerousdave> "You can use dtruss to work out where the system is looking for the certificate file." how do i do that?
[18:14] <sarvsav> Rev : why dont you use disks utility?
[18:16] <sarvsav> or use smartctl from command line, but i would recommend to use GSmartControl, it's the best tool I have ever used.
[18:17] <Rev> sarvsav, i dont know that solftware, i will see
[18:18] <belkinsa> Is there a way to check what PPA is causing the "Check Internet Connection" error with the software updater without guess and check?
[18:20] <pfifo> belkinsa: try running 'sudo apt-get update' from the command line
[18:20] <belkinsa> Thank you, pfifo
[18:20] <paulus68_1> Dr_Willis: I have activated in my bios the embedded Sata Raid (raid 1)  and during install it gives the message (one of more drives containing serial ata raid configurations have been found do you wish to activate these raid devices  yes or no
[18:20] <chro> !release
[18:21] <chro> when will 13.10 become available ?
[18:21] <belkinsa> Oct 17, 1013
[18:21] <paulus68_1> Dr_Willis: when clicking on yes I get configure Iscsi volumes undo change to partitions and finish partitioning and write changes to disk
[18:21] <chro> thanks
[18:21] <belkinsa> Not a problem.
[18:23] <belkinsa> And along with that question, why does the software updater not say what PPA that is causing the problem?  Is there a reason behind that?
[18:23] <Lewes> Why is my port 22 refused?
[18:24] <Dr_Willis> Lewes:  perhaps you dont have any service running on it.
[18:24] <Lewes> I have openssh-server installed
[18:24] <Dr_Willis> and you checked its logs?
[18:24] <pfifo> Lewes: firewall could be blocking it
[18:24] <Lewes> Yes its running.
[18:25] <Dr_Willis> the logs give more info then if iots running or not.
[18:25] <Lewes> I've turned off ufw
[18:25] <paulus68_1> Dr_Willis: when just selecting finish partitioning it gives me the error that no root has been selected
[18:25] <Lewes> How to disable iptables?
[18:25] <Dr_Willis> connections comming in, connections refused and so forth. If the server shows no connections comming in. then that would point to a firewall issue
[18:25] <sammy> Lewes: sudo netstat -ntpl | grep 22
[18:25] <pfifo> Lewes: compile you own kernel without iptable support
[18:25] <Dr_Willis> ssh client has a -vvv option for very verbose outut
[18:25] <sammy> just to be sure.
[18:26] <Dr_Willis> paulus68_1:  give a filesystem the mountpoint of /
[18:26] <Lewes> pfifo: This is a Ubuntu 12.04
[18:26] <Dr_Willis> sudo iptables --list                will show any rules that are in place - none by default.
[18:27] <sammy> oh yeah the verbose output is very nice actually. so anyone have any ideas on why X gets the EDID data fine and autosets the full screen resolution, but my ttys are 4:3, and even more odd, lightdm is obviously stretched? I would think lightdm would get the information as the same place as X/gnome/unity/whatever when it starts
[18:27] <Rydekull> So, ubuntu-desktop. How do I disable graphical desktop on boot?
[18:27] <paulus68_1> Dr_Willis: need to get past the iSCSI configuration first I'm affraid
[18:27] <pfifo> Lewes: ok... still, to get rid of iptables, you have to disable it at the kernel level
[18:27] <Dr_Willis> paulus68_1:  no idea on that.   I thought iscsi was for networked scsi devices.
[18:27] <Lewes>  pfifo; How could I do that with a pre-installed server? Wouldn't it be best to allow all incoming traffic?
[18:27] <Rydekull> Ubuntu 13.04 btw
[18:28] <Dr_Willis> theres no need to 'get rid of iptables' - you can just not have any rules.
[18:28] <karol_> Hi all !
[18:28] <paulus68_1> Dr_Willis: then you and I both are puzzling here :(
[18:28] <Lewes> Would iptables -flush remove all the rules?
[18:28] <pfifo> Lewes: spot on correct, just allow incoming connections, removing iptables all together would be a very very v. v. bad idea
[18:28] <Dr_Willis> Lewes:  its --flush with 2 dashes..
[18:28] <Dr_Willis> !iptables
[18:29] <Dr_Willis> --list will show IF theres any rules
[18:29] <Dr_Willis> which by default are none - as far as i know.
[18:30] <belkinsa> How to add an PPA that was already removed back?
[18:30] <Ari-Yang> I have a question... if I install headers for kernel, will I also need the headers all .deb?
[18:30] <gordonjcp> Ari-Yang: no
[18:30] <gordonjcp> Ari-Yang: well, depends what you're trying to do.  Probably not.
[18:30] <Ari-Yang> gordonjcp: http://paste.opensuse.org/view/raw/10881712
[18:31] <dmobley88> mmmmm toasted everything bagel with cream cheese, 2 slices of pepper jack cheese, and 6 slices of turkey.... so yummy
[18:31] <Ari-Yang> gordonjcp: there are no headers all .deb for this kernel....
[18:31] <Lewes> Dr_Willis: http://i44.tinypic.com/29m14zk.jpg
[18:31] <dmobley88> I had to go buy my computer a cheese burger this morning.
[18:32] <Lewes> !nano
[18:33] <sammy> Rydekull: askubuntu.com (the ubuntu stack exchange) has this answer and is definitely my go-to first (FYI): google `askubuntu 79651`
[18:33] <sammy> sorry I would have sent/pasted the actual URL but I opened irssi in a terminal where I can't paste :P
[18:34] <Rydekull> sammy: ... uh, right. Anyway. I've solved it already. thanks though.
[18:34] <Se1929> Hey
[18:34] <sammy> Rydekull: what did you do? I was just trying to say stack exchange is a wealth of knowledge and the answers are up/down voted. didn't mean to be all 'RTFM!!!!'
[18:35] <Amed> hi all
[18:36] <sammy> dmobley88: you owe me a bagel sandwich. all i have is reheated papajohns :((
[18:36] <dmobley88> hey sammy...
[18:37] <gordonjcp> Ari-Yang: nothing in that paste makes much sense
[18:37] <Ari-Yang> gordonjcp: nvm I figured it out, I need headers all
[18:37] <Rydekull> sammy: Well, appearently in ubuntu 13.04 atleast, disabling the graphical interface has been moved to be a grub-entry. GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="text" in /etc/default/grub followed by grub-update solves it
[18:37] <Rydekull> sammy: Which to me, seems like a weird way of doing it. But yeah. Solved anyway
[18:38] <gordonjcp> Ari-Yang: what exactly are you trying to do?
[18:38] <Ari-Yang> gordonjcp: it's okay, you don't need to help me. just upgrading kernel is all
[18:38] <sammy> Rydekull: weird. I think I remember seeing this in androidx86 too, actually. so I think its something that gets appended to the kernel command line by grub.
[18:38] <dmobley88> papa johns - thick crust pizza, spinach alfredo (used instead of the red sauce), then pineapple, jalepenos, chicken, mushrooms, onion, green pepper, extra cheese, and crushed red pepper @ sammy
[18:38]  * dmobley88 hands sammy a bagel sandwich.
[18:39] <Rydekull> sammy: Uh, didnt I just say it was?
[18:42] <freshfish> 12.04 SBx00 Azalia (Intel HDA).  Want to use SPDIF with Digital Output 5.1, but it's not there.  only analog stereo out
[18:43] <horseatingweeds> In kubuntu, how do you change dolphin settings?
[18:45] <dmobley88> my computer just swallowed an entire can of beans.
[18:46] <mio6> Hello, If I have a backup of my / (including /home) how can I transfer all my settings and files from there to a new fresh install?
[18:46] <Lewes> Why is my port 22 refused?
[18:46] <Lewes> Is it my server refusing it or the router?
[18:46] <dmobley88> because you have to open it Lewes.
[18:46] <daftykins> Lewes: perhaps your ISP blocks it, or SSH isn't properly running on it
[18:46] <bekks> Lewes: Because of your settings, most likely.
[18:46] <bekks> Lewes: Did you install openssh-server?
[18:47] <Lewes> bekks: Yes
[18:47] <Lewes> dmobley88: It is open.
[18:47] <bekks> Lewes: Where did you install it?
[18:47] <freshfish> Lewes, from cli ufw disable
[18:47] <Lewes> bekks: I just did "sudo apt-get install openssh-server"
[18:47] <freshfish> on the host youwant to connect to.
[18:47] <Lewes> freshfish: I already disabled ufw
[18:47] <bekks> Lewes: Where? On the computer you want to connect to?
[18:47] <Lewes> bekks: Yes
[18:48] <bekks> Lewes: Then try "ssh localhost" on that computer.
[18:48] <Lewes> bekks: My friend connected to the SSH on his other computer in the network.
[18:49] <Lewes> bekks: But its portforwarded and won't let me on.
[18:49] <savr> hi, when is the ubuntu kernel coming out? 2015? 2020?
[18:49] <bekks> Lewes: You have to explain the entire networking setup first. Which computer is where, where are which portforwardings on which routers?
[18:50] <yeats> savr: what do you mean by "ubuntu kernel"?
[18:50] <bekks> savr: There will never be an ubuntu kernel. Ubuntu uses the linux kernel.
[18:50] <Lewes> bekks: The computer is connected to a Dlink DRR-655 router, on the router port 22 and 21 are portforwaded.
[18:50] <bekks> Lewes: And that computer is where? At your home? At your friends home?
[18:50] <savr> bekks: for now
[18:50] <Lewes> bekks: Friends home
[18:50] <bekks> Lewes: Then your friend has to fix his portforwardings.
[18:51] <Lewes> bekks: He has though, its been portforwarded and I've checked
[18:51] <yeats> !clone | mio6
[18:51] <bekks> Lewes: Then it would work.
[18:51] <Lewes> bekks: But its not, thats the problem
[18:51] <bekks> Lewes: So his setup isnt correct.
[18:51] <bekks> Lewes: How are you trying to connect in detail?
[18:52] <Lewes> bekks: Using PuTTy
[18:52] <bekks> Lewes: How? By staring at it and hoping it will connect? What are you _doing_ in _detail_?
[18:52] <savr> in one hundred years ubuntu should push back all it's releases by a month so that in November 2103 we can have ubuntu 3.11 for workgroups
[18:52] <bekks> savr: Do you have a specific ubuntu support question?
[18:52] <Lewes> bekks: I've installed PuTTy, and OpenSSH-Server and client on the server and disabled the firewalls.
[18:53] <bekks> Lewes: And you are staring at it. What are you entering where _in_ _detail_?
[18:53] <gordonjcp> savr: offtopic, but rofl
[18:53] <Lewes> bekks: What_do_you_mean?
[18:54] <bekks> Lewes: Well, for using putty as an ssh client, you have to enter an IP and a port at least.
[18:54] <Lewes> bekks: Port 22 and IP 81.167.80.178
[18:54] <bekks> Lewes: And which port did your friend forward?
[18:54] <Lewes> bekks: 22 TCP and UDP
[18:55] <bekks> Lewes: UDP is not needed, since ssh uses TCP and not UDP.
[18:55] <Lewes> BEKKS: Could it be disrupting it?
[18:55] <bekks> Lewes: No.
[18:56] <bekks> Lewes: But your issue is not an ubuntu issue anymore, since you arent using ubuntu, your friend is using ubuntu, your friend can successfully connect to his ubuntu, and the portforwarding of your friend is not working correctly.
[18:57] <Naeblis> I'm getting "API MIsmatch: Nvidia kernel module has version 304.88 but this driver has version 304.64 with Xubuntu.
[18:58] <wylde> Lewes: unless of course you've simply made a typo in the ip address and/or port 22 is filtered by your friends isp.
[18:58] <Lewes> wylde: How can I change the port of the ssh server?
[18:58] <wylde> !sshd | Lewes
[18:59] <daftykins> Lewes: i can certainly tell you that port 22 at that IP is closed
[19:02] <riqdiiz> hi modeswitch command wont work even when I'm su! what could be the reason?
[19:02] <SuperLag> If you're compiling something from source that's newer than what's in the repos... what is the best way to handle adding something to $PATH, so you don't create problems for later?
[19:02] <riqdiiz> says"access denied"
[19:04] <raiever> ello everyone, need a lil help..
[19:04] <jack> *rephrase* why/when did adept get dropped?
[19:05] <jack> best apt gui ever, imho
[19:05] <daftykins> raiever: ask the question
[19:06] <raiever> alright so.. ubuntu to usb external hard drive. read online many tuts etc none have work for the latest version..
[19:06] <jack> Noskcaj, remember "adept"?
[19:06] <geirha> jack: #kubuntu might be a better place to ask about that
[19:06] <gordonjcp> raiever: just make sure you pick the right drive when you go to install
[19:06] <jack> hmm, ok thx
[19:07] <geirha> or do you mean the adept package has been completely removed?
[19:07] <jack> geirha, yup
[19:07] <jack> it's not available anymore
[19:08] <genii> geirha: Kubuntu went to Muon
[19:08] <raiever> usb external*, installing from live cd. HDD is formatted to ext4, (only have this drive and cd player plugged in so its the right drive).. installs fine but on first boot it hits grub rescue or "hard disk error" page.
[19:08] <jack> muon??
[19:08] <genii> jack: Yes, that's the default package manager in Kubuntu now
[19:08] <jack> genii, is that a newschool-adept?
[19:09] <Lewes> Well we changed the port to port 25566 and same error.
[19:10] <raiever> any help from anyone?
[19:10] <bekks> raiever: Where did you install grub to?
[19:10] <geirha> jack: Hm. Might be mentioned in kubuntu's release notes; it used to be the default package manager in kubuntu, didn't it? so the release notes might mention why it was removed
[19:10] <Lewes> bekks: Well we changed the port to port 25566 and same error.
[19:10] <daftykins> Lewes: i don't think you/your friend is port forwarding correctly. possibly missing a hidden router web admin page "apply" button to actually save the rule
[19:10] <bekks> Lewes: Then your setup is still wrong.
[19:11] <Lewes> daftykins and bekks: I checked and I was on teamviewer.
[19:11] <daftykins> Lewes: i can see the port is still closed
[19:11] <genii> !muon | jack
[19:11] <raiever> i didnt manually install grub. just formatted the hdd and let the ubuntu installer do its thing.
[19:11] <bekks> Lewes: SSH is working correctly, since your friend can connect. It is not an ubuntu issue but a "how do I configure the router" issue.
[19:11] <wylde> Lewes: then the problem is the forwarding on the router. Not an ubuntu support issue.
[19:11] <Lewes> daftykins: I don't know whats blocking it.
[19:11] <bekks> raiever: And the installer asks you where to install grub.
[19:11] <daftykins> Lewes: is it pointing the rule to the correct LAN based IP? checked firewall?
[19:12] <raiever> then it was installed to the external along with everything else.
[19:12] <genii> jack: If you have any more questions regarding Kubuntu , please ask them in the #kubuntu channel :)
[19:12] <bekks> raiever: Then your computer cant boot from that properly.
[19:12] <jack> genii: merci bien
[19:13] <jack> just installing muon
[19:13] <raiever> well help me out then?:) looking in gparted the main drive is the boot flagged drive. have two 8 gigs set aside (swap and an extended)..
[19:13] <jack> kinda rapes my xubuntu
[19:13] <bekks> raiever: The boot flag isnt needed since 15 years anymore.
[19:14] <jack> but maybe it's worth it
[19:14] <bekks> !grub2 | raiever
[19:14] <raiever> boot flag is auto set when the os is installed. not something i did.
[19:15] <bekks> raiever: And it isnt even needed since 15 years ;)
[19:15] <bekks> raiever: Did you alraedy read the links given by ubottu?
[19:16] <raiever> ah well.. not yet loaded them but thenfirst one isnt what i have.. i dont have windows.
[19:16] <bekks> raiever: ubottu wrote more than one link.
[19:17] <raiever> yes i see that. like i said.. loaded them.. not it. :p
[19:18] <meet> how do i install g++? i am getting a dependancy error which will not be resolved automatically.
[19:18] <raiever> the second one doesnt help me any either.. i dont have any second os installed.. the drive was formatted to ext3, then i just installed via normal install.. choosing to erase any files and install a fresh setup (just incase).
[19:18] <jack> not included with a gcc pkg?
[19:19] <bazhang> meet, install build-essential
[19:19] <raiever> the setup put the boot, grub, etc and partitioned the srive as it saw fit..  but the srive will not boot. i even idked in bios for a minute to let the pc recognize the usb hdd and nothing.
[19:21] <alkisg> What's the default `umask` in Ubuntu? 0022?
[19:21] <OerHeks> alkisg, correct
[19:22]  * alkisg somehow got 0002 in some of his systems... need to find out why... thank you OerHeks
[19:22] <dmobley88> my.pen.is.erect
[19:22] <jack> same here alkisg
[19:22] <jack> jack@jack-desktop:~$ umask
[19:22] <jack> 0002
[19:23] <raiever> anyone done a ubuntu to usb external hdd here?
[19:23] <alkisg> jack: thank you, do you have 12.04?
[19:23] <bekks> !ops | dmobley88
[19:24] <alkisg> raiever: sure
[19:24] <raiever> can you be of some assitance?
[19:24] <raiever> or try at least?:)
[19:24] <alkisg> raiever: ask in the channel, I'll try to help as long as I'm around...
[19:25] <Lewes> bekks: Since of portforwarding issues; my friend is going to put WIndows 7 64bit on a server.
[19:25] <alkisg> OerHeks: I just tried ubuntu-12.04.3-i386.iso and got umask=0002... which version are you using?
[19:25] <Flannel> dmobley88: Please help keep this channel family friendly, thanks.
[19:25] <daftykins> Lewes: what a quitter :(
[19:25] <Lewes> daftykins: Well portforwarding seems fine...
[19:26] <bekks> Lewes: However that should be helpful. It will not help at all.
[19:26] <dmobley88> all I said was My Pen Is Erect. there's nothing wrong with a pen being erect...
[19:26] <Lewes> bekks; Thats exactly what I was trying to say
[19:26] <jack> alkisg, on this system yes
[19:26] <bazhang> dmobley88, got an actual ubuntu support question?
[19:26] <raiever> alright its pretty simple i just dont know whats going on.. im installing to usb external via live ubuntu disk.. hdd is partitioned to ext 3 by me, then the ubuntu installer does the rest.. everything installs and says to reatart and continue.. remove cd and hdd wont boot into os, just gives grub rescue screen.
[19:27] <daftykins> raiever: definitely give a manual grub install a try
[19:27] <alkisg> raiever: how old is your system? are you 100% sure it exports the usb devices to grub?
[19:28] <alkisg> And, where did you install grub? to the external mbr or to the internal one?
[19:28] <Anonynimity> no, dmobley88 doesn't but I do.
[19:28] <raiever> ti have no idea how too. pretty new to ubuntu.. tired of windows dying. system was a custom build with parts only 2 years old. and i only have the external drive.. so if the ubuntu installer set the mbr itd be the external.
[19:29] <Anonynimity> how in the heck do I install ubuntu touch on a non-supported device?
[19:29] <bazhang> Anonynimity, ask in #ubuntu-touch
[19:29] <raiever> sorry for slow typing im on my phone atm.
[19:29] <Anonynimity> thx bazhang
[19:29] <OerHeks> alkisg, read this about umask 002 and 0022 http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/understanding-linux-unix-umask-value-usage.html
[19:30] <genii> Anonynimity: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Porting is what they'll point you at
[19:30] <Anonynimity> I've read that alot genii
[19:30] <Anonynimity> it's not helping
[19:30] <alkisg> OerHeks: I'm more curious about why umask changed from 0022 to ubuntu 10.04, to 0002 to ubuntu 12.04...
[19:30] <alkisg> *in
[19:30] <OerHeks> alkisg, for ubuntu *root it is 0022, for the user 002
[19:30] <genii> Anonynimity: Best bet then is to find someone knowledgeable in #ubuntu-touch channel that is working on a similar port
[19:31] <Anonynimity> I've tried
[19:31] <Anonynimity> no one is working on a port for the fusion 2
[19:31] <Anonynimity> :(
[19:31] <alkisg> OerHeks: the 10.04 live cd has umask = 0022, the 12.04 live cd has umask = 0002, both for the "ubuntu" live user (and for the users created after installation)...
[19:31] <alkisg> ...but I don't know yet why... searching...
[19:32] <bekks> alkisg: why is that live cd umask of importance?
[19:32] <alkisg> bekks: it isn't; it's just a method to check that it's not some local change in my system, that it's a global ubuntu change
[19:32] <bekks> alkisg: Then differences between livecds are irrelevant - totally.
[19:32] <raiever> no help? /:
[19:33] <bekks> alkisg: unless you do know that you remastered the livecd, it is a global change.
[19:33] <alkisg> bekks: how so? umask is set from pam, and I don't think live cds have some customized umask...
[19:33] <bekks> alkisg: livecds do not "memorize" settings.
[19:33] <alkisg> So whatever is on the live CDs, will appear in the installed system
[19:33] <alkisg> bekks: I really don't understand your point
[19:34] <alkisg> What I'm saying is that 10.04 had umask=0022 and 12.04 has umask=0002, and that is proved by a clean installation
[19:34] <bekks> alkisg: I dont see why the umask change on the live cd is of importance at all.
[19:34] <alkisg> Booting a live cd is similar to a clean installation
[19:34] <bekks> alkisg: no it isnt.
[19:34] <alkisg> Why?
[19:34] <alkisg> Do you know of any casper code that customizes umask?
[19:34] <bekks> alkisg: because the live cd is preconfigured and does not contain all the packages installed on a fresh installed system.
[19:34] <alkisg> bekks: prove it
[19:35] <blissi> !ops
[19:35] <alkisg> What part of the live CD customizes umask?
[19:35] <bekks> alkisg: You said it would be the same - YOU prove it.
[19:35] <Flannel> blissi: yes?
[19:35] <alkisg> It's obvious, I don't see any customization in the casper code
[19:35] <Myrtti> blissi: yyyyyeeeeesss?
[19:35] <blissi> Flannel: Myrtti unity sucks
[19:35] <alkisg> So if you imagine that it's different, you need to specify where it gets different
[19:35] <Myrtti> blissi: use something else then. move on.
[19:35] <blissi> hmmmmmm
[19:35] <alkisg> Anyways, it's not important
[19:36] <alkisg> You can do a clean installation if you have doubts
[19:36] <jack> alright, muon rules
[19:36] <Myrtti> jack: we're not even starting that.
[19:36] <bekks> alkisg: I dont need to since I dont see the importance of the umask on livecds.
[19:36] <bekks> alkisg: And on a fresh installed system, you will have 0022.
[19:36] <alkisg> bekks: nope
[19:36] <alkisg> As other 2 people reported, they have 0002
[19:36] <IdleOne> blissi: you pinged 20+ people for no good reason. Please don't do that again.
[19:36] <cvtsx> herro
[19:37] <blissi> !ops
[19:37] <jack> Myrtti, np :) but - i already love it
[19:37] <blissi> IdleOne: is being mean to me
[19:37] <blissi> !op
[19:37] <harshal> hi
[19:37] <harshal> i need help
[19:37] <Flannel> Mmm, chanserv lag.
[19:37] <LjL> IdleOne: stop being mean please
[19:37] <IdleOne> LjL: you got it
[19:38] <harshal> hey
[19:38] <bekks> alkisg: 3 people havin a specific issue - without further details - doesnt make that a global problem, just my two cents. I'd stop this conversation now, since I dont see any value in it anymore.
[19:38] <harshal> i have problem in gcc
[19:38] <harshal> while sattic compilation
[19:39] <alkisg> bekks: sure, I'm only interested in finding out why ubuntu globally changed umask for all desktop users in 12.04. I'll post the result when I find it.
[19:39] <harshal> any one could help me
[19:39] <bekks> alkisg: ubuntu didnt.
[19:39] <cvtsx> how do i log in to my freenode account?
[19:39] <bekks> alkisg: if they did, all other using 12.04 and above would have the same issue-
[19:39] <wylde> !details | harshal
[19:39] <alkisg> bekks: ok let's stop arguing until I found out the result, I'll let you know
[19:39] <alkisg> bekks: it's quite possible that all do
[19:39] <cvtsx> how do i log in to my freenode account?
[19:40] <Myrtti> /msg nickserv help identify will give you instructions
[19:40] <wylde> cvtsx: /msg nickserv identify   username password
[19:40] <cgtdk> it's better to use /quote nickserv
[19:40] <jack> cvtsx, /nick bla; /msg nickserv identify blabla
[19:40] <SuperLag> you don't even have to specify the username
[19:40] <bekks> alkisg: Nope, we would have noticed since 04/2012.
[19:40] <wylde> cvtsx: don't do it in a channel window. Just in case ;)
[19:40] <cvtsx> thank you
[19:40] <cvtsx> shit
[19:40] <bekks> alkisg: Lets stop argueing, find the issue, and report instead of suspecting things.
[19:40] <alkisg> rIGHT
[19:40] <cvtsx> thanks guys ;)
[19:40] <alkisg> on to it...
[19:42] <yans> Hello
[19:43] <dwwdwd> which kernel is running on ubuntu 13.04?
[19:43] <alkisg> bekks: here's the blueprint, reading... https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/umask-to-0002
[19:43] <bekks> dwwdwd: 3.8.0-xy
[19:43] <dwwdwd> bekks: where can I check out in the site?
[19:44] <bekks> dwwdwd: packages.ubuntu.com
[19:44] <bekks> dwwdwd: What are you looking for, specifically?
[19:45] <genii> !info linux-image-generic raring
[19:45] <dwwdwd> bekks: I need 3.5 or newer kernel for my hardware http://pastebin.com/gNB0J2xU
[19:46] <bekks> alkisg: your "blueprint" moves the setting of the umask from the profile to the pam facility. Thats slighty different from "setting it to 002" ;)
[19:46] <alkisg> "Change the default umask to 0002 "
[19:46] <bekks> dwwdwd: Then you will be fine with Ubuntu 13.04
[19:47] <methdoize> is this the right place for help troubleshooting a laggy minecraft installation?
[19:47] <yans> I have such a problem - http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=oazog3&s=5#.UlBsx7OLelM
[19:48] <yans> Yesterday i try several diffrent icons themes, at least i decide to use fs-icon
[19:48] <falkenhorst> ich nutze ubuntu 13.04 und suche den mozilla/thunderbird ordner ,..weil ich meine mails migrieren will...weiß jemand wo dieser ist?
[19:48] <genii> !de | falkenhorst
[19:48] <yans> But after installation i become such error when ill try to update my system
[19:48] <falkenhorst> ok
[19:49] <ubuntu-addict> Hello. I want to buy a ROG G750. Somebody knows if it's possible to install ubuntu on it or not? Thanks in advance
[19:49] <yans> Whay should i do to fix it?
[19:49] <bekks> ubuntu-addict: what is that?
[19:50] <ubuntu-addict> bekks: what is what?
[19:50] <bekks> ubuntu-addict: Whats a "ROG G750"?
[19:50] <ubuntu-addict> Asus ROG G750
[19:50] <cjwelborn> gaming laptop i think
[19:50] <ubuntu-addict> yes
[19:52] <cgtdk> ubuntu-addict: Don'
[19:52] <cgtdk> ubuntu-addict: Don't buy a gaming laptop
[19:52] <ubuntu-addict> why?
[19:52] <cgtdk> Too much heat, noise, and power consumption
[19:53] <alkisg> bekks: so to sum up, it's implemented since oneiric, and it affects all users that belong to their own private group (e.g. alkisg:alkisg), while the rest still have 0022 (e.g. alkisg:teachers)
[19:53] <ubuntu-addict> but necessary in my job for high level calculations
[19:53] <xan_IT> need help with samba on server, access via ssh works but via samba not. it's a server on intenret
[19:53] <xan_IT> with ubuntu 12.04
[19:53] <cgtdk> ubuntu-addict: Why not get a desktop computer instead?
[19:53] <cgtdk> or a server?
[19:53] <ubuntu-addict> i need to move...
[19:54] <bekks> ubuntu-addict: you dont need a gaming laptop for calculations. you need a high end laptop for high end business. Not gaming.
[19:54] <cgtdk> ubuntu-addict: All right, just don't get a gaming laptop. They are for suckers.
[19:54] <cgtdk> Yes, do what bekks said
[19:54] <ubuntu-addict> do you have a model in mind?
[19:54] <cgtdk> Lenovo Thinkpad W models perhaps
[19:54] <bekks> ubuntu-addict: No.
[19:55] <ubuntu-addict> i need i7 16go ram 2hdd at least 2x750Go and GT780 4Go for ~1500€
[19:55] <cgtdk> but I don't know much about that particular segment of the laptop market
[19:55] <cgtdk> http://shop.lenovo.com/us/en/laptops/thinkpad/w-series/w530/
[19:56] <bekks> ubuntu-addict: you dont need specific graphics cards for business. Do you do CUDA? If not, you dont need them.
[19:57] <cgtdk> bekks: he said he needs to do "high level calculations"
[19:57] <cgtdk> whatever that means
[19:57] <bekks> cgtdk: he used another word for gaming. If he really would do that, he already would have answered yes.
[19:57] <ubuntu-addict> scientific calculations
[19:58] <jhutchins> ubuntu-addict: You can almost certainly install ubuntu on any intel based laptop.  Whether all of the bleeding edge hardware will work or will have all it's features available is another question.
[19:58] <jhutchins> ubuntu-addict: Somebody has to buy one and try it, and report whether it works.  Otherewise nobody knows.
[19:59] <ubuntu-addict> if for example the backlight doesn't work it not a problem. Most important is if ubuntu can be installed and work without crash
[19:59] <cgtdk> http://www.ubuntu.com/certification/desktop/
[19:59] <James_Epp> Hey guys. Doing network installs using this guide (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/LocalNet#A_variation:_Booting_the_.22Live_CD.22_image). However, on every machine I do the install on, none of them have wired connection options. This is quite frustrating. How can I resolve this? Ubuntu 12.04.2
[19:59] <ubuntu-addict> jhutchins: this is the reason why I ask here. I hope that some G750 owner will answer
[20:00] <jhutchins> ubuntu-addict: Better to search the web, and don't limit it to ubuntu, look for any linux.
[20:00] <bekks> ubuntu-addict: And dont focus on a gaming laptop when really doing scientific calculations.
[20:01] <ubuntu-addict> i search over internet but didn't find the answer. I found only this question a lot of time but never answered
[20:01]  * jhutchins wonders why a laptop too.
[20:01] <ubuntu-addict> this is why I'm here...
[20:01] <bekks> ubuntu-addict: This isnt ##hardware ;)
[20:01] <cgtdk> jhutchins: He "needs to move"
[20:01] <ubuntu-addict> i have 2 offices
[20:01] <bekks> cgtdk: read: "I want gaming".
[20:02] <cgtdk> bekks: I refuse to read that
[20:02] <ubuntu-addict> Hey bekks it is not for gaming
[20:02] <bekks> ubuntu-addict: Then dont buy a gaming laptop.
[20:02] <jhutchins> ubuntu-addict: Check with other users in your industry.
[20:02] <cgtdk> ubuntu-addict: what kind of "scientific calculations"?
[20:02] <bekks> ubuntu-addict: If you need to do scientific calculations, buy a PC for that, fitting your needs. But not a gaming laptop.
[20:03] <ubuntu-addict> bekks but do you know another i7 16go ram 2hdd at least 2x750Go and GT780 4Go for ~1500€?
[20:03] <cgtdk> when you say "Go" do you mean "gigabyte"?
[20:03] <cgtdk> there's no 'o' in 'gigabyte'
[20:04] <bekks> ubuntu-addict: you dont need three specific graphics cards for scientific calculations. If you want a justification for a gaming laptop, just go and get it.
[20:04] <ubuntu-addict> dell T560 is better ok but the price.....
[20:04] <cgtdk> bekks: try to be nice to people :-)
[20:04] <ubuntu-addict> bekks don't speak about what you don't know please
[20:05] <bekks> cgtdk: I am nice. This discussion about the justification for a gaming laptop is just pointless. :)
[20:05] <ubuntu-addict> cgtdk: it's for dft calculations if you know?
[20:05] <cgtdk> ubuntu-addict: I don't
[20:05] <[snake]> how can I check for keyloggers?
[20:06] <dangerousdave> "You can use dtruss to work out where the system is looking for the certificate file." how do i do that?
[20:06] <cgtdk> density functional theory?
[20:06] <ubuntu-addict> yes
[20:06] <ubuntu-addict> abinit
[20:06] <bekks> dangerousdave: First, you need a linux system, since dtruss is available on solaris only.
[20:06] <dangerousdave> heh?
[20:07] <dangerousdave> if its only on solaris, i need solaris do i not?
[20:07] <jhutchins> dangerousdave: That or a solution that works on linux.
[20:07] <bekks> dangerousdave: if you are using solaris, you dont have an ubuntu issue :)
[20:07] <cgtdk> ubuntu-addict: what is the exact model Asus ROG you are looking at?
[20:07] <jhutchins> dangerousdave: There are a lot of different things that use certificates, what are you really trying to do?
[20:07] <cgtdk> G750JX-DB71?
[20:07] <dangerousdave> trying to fix "openssl::ssl::sslerror: ssl_connect returned=1 errno=0 state=sslv3 read server certificate b: certificate verify failed"
[20:07] <ubuntu-addict> cgtdk G750JH T4040
[20:08] <jhutchins> Could the hardware discussion maybe go to #hardware?
[20:08] <dangerousdave> lots of stuff online, hasn't worked for me though
[20:08] <jhutchins> dangerousdave: One more step back please.  What are you trying to do when it gives you that failure?
[20:08] <cgtdk> ubuntu-addict: Do you have a link to its specifications?
[20:08] <wylde> !info rkhunter | [snake]
[20:08] <jhutchins> cgtdk: #hardware please?
[20:09] <cgtdk> jhutchins: tell ubuntu-addict
[20:09] <jhutchins> cgtdk: You could also take it to /msg
[20:10] <ubuntu-addict> cgtdk: https://www.amazon.fr/Asus-G750JH-T4040H-Ordinateur-portable-Windows/dp/B00E5K6DIE
[20:11] <[snake]> wylde, thankyou so much. Someone was hijacking my adobe acount and I'm in a buzz sorta o-o
[20:15] <tb01110100> What WM is Ubuntu + Unity using right now? Is it compiz?
[20:17] <OerHeks> lightdm
[20:17] <tb01110100> Uh..
[20:17] <cgtdk> OerHeks: that's not a WM
[20:17] <tb01110100> Window Manager?
[20:18] <tb01110100> That's a desktop manager.
[20:18] <cgtdk> As of 2010 the Unity shell interface developers use a toolkit called Nux instead of Clutter.[38] Unity is a plugin of the Compiz window manager,[15] which Canonical states is faster than Mutter,[39] the window manager for which GNOME Shell is a plug
[20:18] <cgtdk> according to Wikipedia
[20:18] <tb01110100> Thanks.
[20:27] <jhutchins> +  cgtdk
[20:27] <cgtdk> jhutchins: what?
[20:27] <James_Epp> Hey guys. Doing network installs in a fashion similar to this: (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/LocalNet#A_variation:_Booting_the_.22Live_CD.22_image). However, on every machine I do the install on, none of them have wired connection options. That is, when in the live environment everything works fine, but in the actual installation, no wired networking is available. This is quite frustrating. How can I resolve this? 
[20:27] <jhutchins> cgtdk: Good Cite.
[20:28] <vasily> привет
[20:28] <cgtdk> All right
[20:28] <MonkeyDust> !ru
[20:28] <jhutchins> James_Epp: Figure out which chipset you're dealing with.
[20:28] <vasily> hi
[20:29] <jhutchins> !ru
[20:29] <dqwqwddqw> !steam
[20:29] <dqwqwddqw> hi
[20:29] <James_Epp> jhutchins: How? Also, that isn't really going to assist. It seems to be like something is not carried over in any installs. This is the case from those terrible embedded VIA processors to AMD to Intel boards. I do not believe it is hardware releated.
[20:30] <tozen> vasily: kak sam, brat?
[20:30] <jhutchins> James_Epp: It is hardware related.
[20:30] <jhutchins> James_Epp:  The live CD install works on some hardware.
[20:30] <ub-beginner> Is ubuntu compatible with every computer or not? I heard that it is more difficult with uefi but not impossible. Is it true?
[20:31] <dqwqwddqw> hi how to install Steam on ubuntu
[20:31] <vasily> hot est tut russkie)
[20:31] <jhutchins> James_Epp: My guess is that your hardware requires non-free firmware for the NIC.
[20:31] <bekks> dqwqwddqw:
[20:31] <tozen> vasily:  da ets', est' :)
[20:31] <James_Epp> jhutchins: The live CD works perfectly on all of these machines. Only the network install does not.
[20:31] <jhutchins> James_Epp: Although, ubuntu shoul dhandle that.
[20:31] <bekks> dqwqwddqw: Please read what ubottu wrote regarding steam.
[20:31] <cgtdk> ub-beginner: Not every computer, but it does work well with many
[20:31] <vasily> ubuntoq davno polzueshsia&
[20:31] <cgtdk> ub-beginner: Just disable secure boot and it should be fine with UEFI as far as I know
[20:32] <jhutchins> !pl
[20:32] <cgtdk> !secureboot
[20:32] <tozen> vasily: goda poltora, a chjo?
[20:32] <ub-beginner> cgtdk: when it doesn't work is it just like the fn key don't work? or it doesn't work at all??
[20:32] <jhutchins> ub-beginner: EFI requires a little more user care and involvement to set up.
[20:32] <ub-beginner> cgtdk: when it doesn't work is it just like the fn key don't work? or it doesn't work at all??
[20:32] <jhutchins> ub-beginner: More like it's harder to get the bootloader installed correctly.
[20:32] <ub-beginner> ok
[20:33] <James_Epp> Throwing it out there: I disable secure boot and CSM in asus boards permanently and re-do the OS.
[20:33] <James_Epp> *that is, enable CSM
[20:33] <vasily> ne probeval arch7 i segodnz ves deni probival ystanavlivat))
[20:33] <jhutchins> James_Epp: The only way you're going to find a solution is if you figure out what's going wrong and why, and how to fix it.
[20:33] <dqwqwddqw> bekks: the problem is that from the ubuntu software center I can't click install it there's a buy button instead of install button, but Steam is free
[20:34] <tozen> vasily:  nea, mnu i na bubne kajfova
[20:34] <bekks> dqwqwddqw: You dont need the software center to install software.
[20:34] <dqwqwddqw> bekks: so what sudo apt-get install steam?
[20:34] <jhutchins> dqwqwddqw: Follow the link above link for install instructions.
[20:35] <bekks> dqwqwddqw: Read the second link ubottu gave you.
[20:35] <dqwqwddqw> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Valve this one?
[20:35] <dqwqwddqw> right?
[20:35] <bekks> dqwqwddqw: Yes.
[20:35] <vasily> nu a mne na debiane) dli razvitia ystanovil. ne znaesh kak tyt zaiti v gryppy arch?
[20:35] <dqwqwddqw> okay I am reading
[20:36] <tozen> vasily:  blin, u guglja sprosi, brat! :)
[20:36] <vasily> sprosit kak tyt naiti gryppy) vratli naidy)
[20:38] <vasily> vot gde mne english ychit) tyt perepisivatsi s americansami)
[20:38] <genii> !ru
[20:38] <vasily> HI! UBUNTU-FOREVER
[20:40] <vasily> Do  what you using KDE, Unity, Gnome< XFCE?
[20:42] <Marlenee> how i fix E: Could not perform immediate configuration on 'python-minimal'.Please see man 5 apt.conf under APT::Immediate-Configure for details. (2)
[20:43] <OoOo> how do I get to the ubuntu patition
[20:43] <OoOo> I have windows too
[20:43] <ernie24> I have just blank desktop, no  Unity launcher, no windows, nothing, even keyboard binds like Alt+T or Super don't work, any hints?
[20:44] <vasily> in setting keyboerd
[20:45] <tozen> ernie24: what u've done before problem appeared?
[20:46] <OoOo> help
[20:46] <tozen> OoOo: what the matter?
[20:46] <OoOo> how to select the linux partition to boot into
[20:46] <OoOo> i have a windows partition too
[20:47] <cvtsx> ye i dual boot also
[20:47] <ernie24> tozen - well, nothing particular, I just experienced sudden power down yesterday. Today I just logged into empty desktop.
[20:47] <cvtsx> its the only way 2 go
[20:47] <jhutchins> OoOo: You should see the grub boot menu when you start up.  It should have entries for both Windows and Debian, and Debian should be the default.  If it's not, you need to fix grub.
[20:48] <OoOo> i dont
[20:48] <OoOo> I see the bios then windows
[20:48] <jhutchins> OoOo: Then you have not successfully installed grub.
[20:48] <vasily> update-grub
[20:48] <bekks> OoOo: Did you install windows after ubuntu?
[20:48] <jhutchins> vasily: Not if he doesn't see it to begin with.  Good fix if he doesn't have a windows option.
[20:49] <OoOo> yes
[20:49] <jhutchins> OoOo: Which version of windows?
[20:49] <OoOo> xp
[20:49] <bekks> OoOo: Then you have to repair your grub bootloader now.
[20:49] <jhutchins> !fixgrub
[20:50] <jhutchins> OoOo: Windows took over the bootloader.  It's not friendly to other OSs.
[20:50] <vasily> OoOo: update-grub
[20:51] <jhutchins> vasily: no.
[20:52] <OoOo> I dont have the cd
[20:52] <jhutchins> vasily: That only updates the menus, scanning for new bootable partitions.  It does not fix the mbr which gets over-written by windows.
[20:52] <OoOo> and I cant get into linux os
[20:52] <vasily> I bad know english language)
[20:52] <jhutchins> OoOo: How did you install ubuntu to begin with.
[20:52] <OoOo> oh wait
[20:53] <vasily> install ubuntu very install
[20:53] <vasily> install ubuntu very simpl
[20:54] <ernie24> tozen: ok I was able to fix it - http://askubuntu.com/questions/17381/unity-doesnt-load-no-launcher-no-dash-appears/286349#286349
[20:54] <mrdeb> please explain how to install on uefi laptop. thank u
[20:55] <ernie24> mrdeb: what do you want to install?
[20:56] <mrdeb> ernie24: linux
[20:56] <OerHeks> !uefi
[20:56] <ernie24> mrdeb with Ubunty you don't need to do anything special
[20:56] <ernie24> it will update UEFI records for you
[20:57] <vasily> bay
[20:57] <mrdeb> ernie24: what about debian 7
[20:59] <Titanium> why does ubunutu installer yell at me when I do not create a swap partition?
[20:59] <cgtdk> mrdeb: ask a Debian channel
[20:59] <Titanium> do I really need one if I do not plan to swap?
[20:59] <cgtdk> Titanium: No
[20:59] <ernie24> mrdeb: if I am not wrong, any distro with grub that is not ancient will do that
[20:59] <Titanium> cgtdk thanks
[20:59] <mrdeb> !ops
[20:59] <mrdeb> ernie24: thank you
[20:59] <OerHeks> Titanium, you might want to use hybernate, that is what it is complaining about
[20:59] <mrdeb> at least you were not rude
[20:59] <cgtdk> I'm running without swap myself on several boxes and it's running fine (as long as you have enough memory)
[20:59] <Myrtti> mrdeb: yyyyyeeeeesss?
[20:59] <wylde> Titanium: you need one if you plan to use suspend/"sleep" though
[20:59] <wwqdwqd> !nvidia
[21:00] <cgtdk> OerHeks: Do people actually use that?
[21:00] <OoOo> how am I meant to find boot repair
[21:00] <bekks> Titanium: if you want to suspend, you need a swap partition as large as your RAM.
[21:00] <Titanium> cgtdk i have over 2x as much ram as disk
[21:00] <OerHeks> cgtdk, dunno, i have no screensaver too
[21:00] <Titanium> cgtdk so not really an option to swap ;)
[21:00] <OoOo> im booting from the cd
[21:00] <bekks> Titanium: so you cant suspend. How much RAM do you have?
[21:00] <OoOo> I cant find 'boot repair'
[21:00] <Titanium> 512GB
[21:00] <cgtdk> By suspend do you mean something different from standby?
[21:01] <bekks> Titanium: which server is that?
[21:01] <Titanium> C460M2
[21:01] <Myrtti> I guess no ops needed then?
[21:01] <wwqdwqd> I can't find Additional Drivers on my ubuntu 13.04?
[21:01] <bekks> Titanium: From which manufacturer? :)
[21:01] <Titanium> 64 memory slots, and its quad socket, quad channel per socket, 4DPC
[21:01] <Titanium> cisco
[21:01] <ernie24> have a nice time all
[21:01] <Titanium> its my new desktop ;)
[21:02] <OoOo> help
[21:02] <bekks> Titanium: you poor. you must be deaf meanwhile.
[21:02] <Titanium> bekks nope, i still got money leftover to buy the GPU and sound ccard ;)
[21:02] <OerHeks> Titanium, so why don't you have a spare 512 ssd for that ?
[21:02] <Titanium> bekks and i have it in a 6U silentenclosure
[21:03] <bekks> OerHeks: Thats wasting money. SSD for swap usage. :)
[21:03] <Titanium> OerHeks seems like a waste of an SSD when I have 209 (and soon to be 40) TB of storage
[21:03] <Titanium> 20* not 209
[21:03] <bekks> Titanium: Still too load and too much power consumption, imho.
[21:03] <OerHeks> bekks, he would be able to hybernate then
[21:03] <Titanium> i got adapter for range plug
[21:03] <valroadie> !nomodeset
[21:03] <bekks> OerHeks: It is a server. No need to hibernate.
[21:03] <Titanium> so i get 30 amps of 220
[21:04] <Titanium> uses 1KW+ at full load
[21:04] <OoOo> I also need to make the linux volume smaller and make the windows one bigger
[21:04] <bekks> Titanium: Thats pretty much.
[21:04] <Titanium> i plan to get 4 of them
[21:04] <bekks> Titanium: I'd replace them with one Oracle SPARC T5-2 :P
[21:04] <Titanium> bekks but then you cannot run games :(
[21:04] <dee> !nomodeset
[21:05] <bekks> Titanium: I dont play games.
[21:05] <OoOo> help
[21:05] <Titanium> bekks that is what I am getting thos one for
[21:05] <bekks> Titanium: Ah, waste of money and power. OK.
[21:05] <Titanium> bekks i multibox, so i need a bunch of CPU power and lots of PCIe slots
[21:06] <pentester> hello
[21:07] <OoOo> pls help
[21:07] <pentester> So my wireless is working fine without my Ubuntu desktop on the LAN. As soon I plug in an ethernet cable the internet goes down on all clients on network. LAN still works
[21:07] <pentester> Any ideas what could be causing this
[21:09] <wylde> pentester: sounds like you have a dhcp server running on your ubuntu box overiding your router. Just a thought.
[21:09] <pentester> wylde, any particular program i should look for?
[21:11] <bigbadben> what is a good hex editor to use for ubuntu
[21:11] <wylde> pentester: ps aux | grep -i dhcp ? Also check the configuration of the network adapter connecting to your local network.
[21:11] <Happzz> hey, i have php5.3.10 installed
[21:11] <Happzz> i wanna update to the latest 5.4.whatever
[21:12] <Happzz> apt-get update and then upgrade says it's all up to date.
[21:12] <Happzz> what am i missing?
[21:12] <bekks> Happzz: Thats the latest version from the ubuntu repos.
[21:12] <pentester> I just plugged it back into ethernet and everything is working. I didnt do anything.
[21:13] <Happzz> bekks are you sure? it's old like omg
[21:13] <bekks> Happzz: check on packages.ubuntu.com
[21:13] <rrm> can anyone recommend me a laptop without windows installed with no tpm, secure boot and computrace since most of these new ones seem to have 2 or more of these "features"
[21:14] <Happzz> bekks 5.4.9-4ubuntu2.3?
[21:14] <bekks> Happzz: For your specific ubuntu release?
[21:14] <cvtsx> rrm just get a reg laptop and use a bootable usb
[21:14] <bekks> Happzz: Which ubuntu release do you have?
[21:15] <Happzz> bekks not sure.
[21:15] <cvtsx> 12.04
[21:15] <bekks> Happzz: Whats the output of "lsb_release -sd"?
[21:15] <Happzz> 12.04.3 LTS
[21:18] <bekks> Happzz: latest php version for precise is 5.3.10
[21:23] <cgtdk> rrm: Windows being pre-installed is often cheaper because of all the bloatware the OEMs are paid to add
[21:23] <cgtdk> iirc
[21:24] <darkangel> how does 1 Debug a program or any thing?
[21:24] <cgtdk> !details | darkangel
[21:25] <darkangel> is there a web site how to debug stuff? like a Setup.exe game disk
[21:25] <cgtdk> I don't understand what you are talking about (other than having something to do with debugging)
[21:25] <cgtdk> What is a 'setup.exe game disk'?
[21:26] <darkangel> setup.exe of a install program peace that u see on a disk
[21:26] <darkangel> Launcher
[21:26] <bekks> darkangel: you cant run windows .exe files directly.
[21:27] <mrrcp> how do i make a shortcut link on my desktop to a sftp location!
[21:27] <darkangel> I know i done tryed Wine 1.7.3. but if u Send a bug report they all ways have something to bit ur head off about
[21:27] <darkangel> so ima up for fixing my own stuff
[21:28] <jcrza> Is there a channel for hardware prototyping?
[21:28] <cgtdk> jcrza: /list
[21:28] <bekks> darkangel: wine setup.exe
[21:28] <darkangel> is there no WebSite where it will Train u how to debug? programs?
[21:29] <mrrcp> anyone?
[21:29] <gregor3005> hi, is there a similar application like fpaste from fedora for ubuntu?
[21:29] <mrrcp> Hey is there a way to give applications priority with bandwith?
[21:29] <mrrcp> such as my terminal over transmission?
[21:29] <bekks> darkangel: what in very detail are you trying to do actually?
[21:29] <daftykins> mrrcp: "nautilus sftp://blah/" maybe
[21:30] <SalahMessaoud> Hi
[21:30] <mrrcp> daftykins: to make a shortcut on a desktop
[21:30] <pfifo> gregor3005: pastebinit
[21:30] <SchrodingersScat> mrrcp: there is a package for that, not sure how well it works, i think it' was called drip something, trying to remember
[21:30] <gregor3005> pfifo: thx i try it
[21:30] <darkangel> no... tryin to Install Oblivion Elder scrolls IV under WINE but wont do crap just show's a little message of code's and when u click OK it dont Install
[21:31] <bekks> darkangel: Then check out the winehq website on how to run that game using wine.
[21:31] <SalahMessaoud> I have been trying to make my E372 3G dongle to work on Ubuntu 12.04 LTS 32 bit but no luck any idea ?
[21:31] <bekks> !winehq | darkangel
[21:31] <SchrodingersScat> !info trickle | mrrcp
[21:32] <darkangel> How do u Debug stuff though?
[21:33] <SchrodingersScat> !info gdb | darkangel
[21:33] <bekks> darkangel: if you want to debig windows programs, you have to ask a windows channel though ;)
[21:33] <bekks> 12*debug
[21:33] <pfifo> darkangel: use gdb
[21:33] <darkangel> ok thx
[21:33] <mrrcp> trickle
[21:34] <mrrcp> is that a commonly used app?
[21:34] <Guest9087> hello guys.... you know tell me what is the package name of the ubuntu translation to portuguese (brazil)?
[21:36] <SchrodingersScat> mrrcp: not sure if I even had it working, saw it suggested here and installed it.
[21:37] <mrrcp> dont you have to setup the settings?
[21:37] <mrrcp> !wondershape
[21:37] <SchrodingersScat> !info wondershape
[21:37] <mrrcp> hmm
[21:37] <mrrcp> o
[21:37] <mrrcp> !info wondershaper
[21:38] <mrrcp> i wonder which is better
[21:39] <mrrcp> any ideas?
[21:40] <daftykins> try them
[21:40] <nurow> is there a way that I can make Nautilus search the inner contents files?
[21:40] <nurow> or another application I can use?
[21:40] <SchrodingersScat> mrrcp: I would like to hear how each of them go for you.
[21:41] <makoto> yo. just did upgrades to stop ubuntu nagging me. it appears to have removed support for my touchpad
[21:41] <makoto> any ideas as to how i can get my touchpad back?
[21:42] <darkangel> Hey does Geany Help on Debugging?
[21:42] <cgtdk> !details | makoto
[21:42] <bekks> darkangel: no.
[21:42] <darkangel> ok
[21:42] <bekks> darkangel: did you visit the wine appdb to check how you can install your game?
[21:43] <makoto> it's raring, thats as much as I know
[21:43] <makoto> i just want to be able to use my laptop!
[21:43] <darkangel> not yet
[21:43] <makoto> what other details are needed?
[21:43] <cgtdk> makoto: laptop model, kernel version, stuff like that
[21:43] <cgtdk> previous ubuntu version
[21:44] <makoto> Linux mak0-HP-Pavilion-dv6-Notebook-PC 3.8.0-31-generic #46-Ubuntu SMP Tue Sep 10 20:03:44 UTC 2013 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[21:44] <bekks> darkangel: that would be the very first thing to do instead of "debugging".
[21:44] <makoto> previos version was raring as far as i'm aware- it updated packages
[21:44] <cgtdk> oh
[21:44] <cgtdk> what did you update?
[21:44] <makoto> not a clue! it just kept saying "updates are available"
[21:44] <makoto> so i clicked ok, entered my password and went off to make a coffee
[21:45] <cgtdk> I see
[21:45] <makoto> it doesn't keep update logs, does it?
[21:46] <rafinhaaa> hello guys.... you know tell me what is the package name of the ubuntu translation to portuguese (brazil)?
[21:46] <cgtdk> /var/log/dpkg.log
[21:46] <cgtdk> @ makoto
[21:47] <makoto> cgtdk: ha it literally upgraded everything
[21:48] <trism> rafinhaaa: you could see which packages you need with: check-language-support -l pt;
[21:48] <cgtdk> makoto: That seems unlikely
[21:48] <makoto> well
[21:48] <makoto> ok not literally
[21:48] <makoto> not literally at all
[21:49] <Rory> rafinhaaa: See also here http://askubuntu.com/questions/149876/how-can-i-install-one-language-by-command-line
[21:49] <makoto> regardless, it's upgraded a lot.... http://pastebin.com/Ypq8MjWT
[21:49] <rafinhaaa> trism: thank you!
[21:49] <rafinhaaa> Rory: thanks!
[21:49] <makoto> new xorg
[21:49] <makoto> i wonder
[21:49] <rafinhaaa> i will check it
[21:50] <cgtdk> makoto: 'figuratively everything' seems to be a fitting description :-)
[21:50] <makoto> ah yes
[21:51] <makoto> although, i doubt i'll remember how to spell figuratively
[21:51] <makoto> it doesn't roll off my fingers easily
[21:51] <mrrcp> brb
[21:51] <cgtdk> makoto: what about 'virtually'?
[21:52] <makoto> hmm
[21:53] <cgtdk> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6198373/ this is better
[21:53] <mrrcp> ok here goes the test
[21:53] <mrrcp> trickle installed
[21:53] <cgtdk> makoto: try using the previous kernel
[21:54] <cgtdk> it should still be there
[21:54] <makoto> ah ok
[21:54] <delinquentme> is there a command to get a local machines public facing IP?
[21:54] <makoto> brb detaching screen and reboooting
[21:54] <delinquentme> commandline
[21:54] <techlord> Hello everyone, I am new to ubuntu and I am having a issue of connecting to one of my windows PC through the network locations but I can see the rest of them and get in the files of the others
[21:54] <makoto> was it shift to get into grub on these newfangled things?
[21:54] <mrrcp> So
[21:55] <mrrcp> It may be working properly
[21:55] <cgtdk> delinquentme: curl http://canhazip.com/
[21:55] <loadid_czech> techlord: you may have file and print sharing turned off on the computer you can't see.  Maybe you need to go into the folder on the windows machine and share the folder you want to see on the network
[21:56] <techlord> I have done this on the PC and have checked with my other PC's and I can see it from all other PC's but my ubuntu 12
[21:57] <techlord> As I was thinking the same thing
[21:57] <techlord> But as I said I can access this PC from any other PC in the house
[21:57] <cgtdk> makoto: yes, hold down shift
[21:57] <techlord> but this one
[21:57] <cgtdk> but you have to be quick
[21:58] <techlord> and the other 2 PC's connect and can be seen fine
[21:58] <makoto> cgtdk: hm yep. old kernel's fine
[21:58] <makoto> regression ftw
[21:59] <cgtdk> Yeah, regression sucks. I'm currently stuck on 3.9.11 on my laptop because newer versions mess up backlight control. :(
[21:59] <cgtdk> I should probably stick to the Canonical-maintained 3.8 branch
[21:59] <cgtdk> on my laptop
[22:00] <makoto> i remember back in 9.04 i had a dell and that worked real nice until i upgraded it one day and it never worked the same since :(
[22:01] <mrrcp> Well it seems that it is helping a little
[22:01] <mrrcp> as far as it not locking up my ssh
[22:01] <cgtdk> Speaking of kernels, there's usually a 'linux-headers...-all' file in addition to the 'linux-headers/image..._ARCH' files in these directories: http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v3.11.4-saucy/ Is there a reason why there isn't one in that specific directory?
[22:01] <cgtdk> 9.04/9.10 were wonderful
[22:01] <cgtdk> those were the days
[22:03] <rrm> does the LTS 12.04 support pae?
[22:03] <bekks> rrm: yes.
[22:04] <we6jbo> Hi I got a question
[22:04] <cgtdk> !ask | we6jbo
[22:04] <we6jbo> Are there drivers for the NVIDIA Quadro K600 that will work with Ubuntu?
[22:04] <TJ-> cgtdk: If you review the build.log you'll see the build didn't succeed
[22:05] <cgtdk> TJ-: I see. Thanks
[22:05] <rrm> bekks:  i meant non pae processor, sorry
[22:06] <bekks> rrm: http://askubuntu.com/questions/117744/how-can-i-install-on-a-non-pae-cpu-error-kernel-requires-features-not-present
[22:08] <TJ-> rrm: 12.04 has PAE and non-PAE 32-bit kernels
[22:09] <TJ-> rrm: See http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=linux-image&searchon=names&suite=precise-updates&section=all
[22:09] <rrm> TJ-:  thanks man
[22:09] <nurow> is there a way that I can make Nautilus search the inner contents files?
[22:09] <nurow> or another application I can use?
[22:10] <loadid_czech> you mean search for a text string inside a document nurow?
[22:10] <nurow> yep
[22:11] <nurow> <-- web developer
[22:11] <loadid_czech> maybe searchmonkey
[22:11] <wylde> nurow: gedit may do that. If not natively using a plugin perhaps
[22:12] <TJ-> nurow: That's what "grep" is for
[22:13] <TJ-> nurow: For non-text (binary) files you can use "strings $FILE | grep 'FIND_THIS'"
[22:13] <DthZig> I messed up my bluetooth stack trying to get a remote controler working
[22:13] <loadid_czech> or gnome-search-tool nurow
[22:13] <macsplean> anyone here pretty good with libreofffice
[22:14] <mrrcp> hmm
[22:14] <DthZig> I managed to not get it working again by installing blueman, I can pair stuff but no keyboard or gives output out
[22:14] <nurow> thanks for all the suggests guys
[22:14] <makoto> cgtdk: 9.04/.10 wasn't quite the days for me- i had to do thta updgrade as there was some silly configuation in .04 that caused usb 3g modems to do strange things on plugging them in.
[22:15] <loadid_czech> the answer to that question is irrelevant macsplean, what are you trying to accomplish?
[22:15] <ender-adam> macsplean: i am ok with keyboard shortcuts so you can ask me about getting around libre
[22:16] <DthZig> I am wondering what packages I can install to reinstall the standard bluetooth stack on ubuntu 13.04
[22:16] <macsplean> i am trying to change tab functionality to accomplish 2 things. First, when using tables in writer, I want the tab to indent, not move to the next table cell. Second, I want to change the number of spaces that tab moves forward by
[22:16] <raul_p> hey guys, how can i make sure php ( running as php-fpm as USER , not apache ) can't read outside /home/USER ?
[22:17] <loadid_czech> i would imagine the would take some pretty serious editing of the core files itself, tab moving one cell to the right is kind of universal macsplean
[22:18] <loadid_czech> DthZig: what did you do to mess it up in the first place
[22:18] <wylde> raul_p: make a test file outside /home/$USER and use a php script to try and read it?
[22:18] <bekks> macsplean: by default, tab inserts a tab, no whitespaces. That configurable in the settings.
[22:18] <raul_p> wylde: /etc/passwd :)
[22:18] <raul_p> i'm trying to secure the shit out of my lamp
[22:18] <ender-adam> macsplean: on openoffice it was arrow to move cell-to-cell not tab, tab was indent
[22:18] <raul_p> but, grr, i just uploaded a php shell and i can run anything
[22:19] <IdleOne> keep the language clean please
[22:19] <macsplean> loadid_czech: ok, well, in that case, can you think of anything I can do to give myself the functionality of pressing a button to insert multiple spaces . I am writing code and it is annoying to write multiple spaces all the time
[22:19] <DthZig> I first tried to install an old version of bluez with a patch, then that didn't make the remote controller work better, I tried to get back to where I started, but I clearly have installed the wrong bluetooth stack
[22:19] <macsplean> ender-adam: thanks I may switch over to that
[22:19] <DthZig> I am on blueman something now
[22:19] <bekks> raul_p: then disallow the usage of system functions, etc. first.
[22:19] <raul_p> i'm thinking now to add the system users ( that will have vhosts ) to a group, but not sure what to do with that group to restrict it's access
[22:19] <raul_p> bekks: not really, as wordpress relies on those :(
[22:19] <raul_p> and plus, i can't disable file_get_contents :)
[22:19] <bekks> raul_p: then its pretty hopeless.
[22:19] <raul_p> or fopen
[22:20] <raul_p> well, apparmor maybe can help, or some ACL's
[22:20] <TJ-> raul_p: It depends what user account the PHP script us running as, which probably depends on the httpd process
[22:20] <raul_p> but i'm new to that ...
[22:20] <raul_p> TJ-: the php runs as the user
[22:20] <raul_p> TJ-: httpd runs as www-data
[22:20] <TJ-> raul_p: using suexec ?
[22:20] <loadid_czech> macsplean: looks like bekks may know how to change that in the configuration settings
[22:21] <raul_p> worker + fastcgi + php-fpm
[22:22] <macsplean> bekks: do you know how to configure libreoffice writer so that tab indents and doesn
[22:22] <macsplean> bekks: doesn't change between table cells
[22:22] <bekks> macsplean: No, I dont know that. I just know that its configurable wether tab (in writer) inserts tabs or spaces.
[22:22] <raul_p> does any of you have experience with acl's or apparmor ?
[22:23] <ender-adam> macsplean: don't, openoffice is the old, try libre 3.5
[22:23] <TJ-> raul_p: Ahh OK, in which case you need to add "open_basedir = ..." to the php.ini for that user's fastcgi config
[22:23] <raul_p> did that
[22:23] <raul_p> but i still can read outside
[22:25] <raul_p> open_basedir	/home/test1/www/ … but fopen ( /etc/passwd ) works with no problem :)
[22:25] <macsplean> ender-adam: could you recommend me a method to install 3.5 if I am currently running 4?
[22:25] <DthZig> Anyone know what packages I can install to get the standard bluetooth setup on 13.04?
[22:26] <loadid_czech> maybe bluez DthZig?
[22:26] <loadid_czech> apt-get remove --purge bluez && apt-get install bluez
[22:26] <DthZig> Okay will try
[22:27] <raul_p> TJ-: /usr/bin/whoami => test1
[22:27] <raul_p> so i'm running as user
[22:27] <raul_p> so i really think i need to make the system to not let users in certain group to do anything
[22:29] <TJ-> raul_p: Have you made a temporary info.php file in that domain with "<?php phpinfo() ?>" ? Read that from a browser to check that the settings you think are set, actually are.
[22:29] <raul_p> yes they are
[22:29] <raul_p> plus exec whoami :)
[22:30] <F41L> Ok... having a bit of trouble with a package. I want to install proftpd with mysql support, but the package proftpd-mod-mysql doesn't have mod_sfto_sql.c
[22:30] <F41L> Is there a package in the repo that just has ALL of the modules included, and can be configured as needed?
[22:31] <F41L> mod_sftp_sql.c typo
[22:31] <bekks> F41L: There is no such package.
[22:31] <F41L> So... only choice I have is to not use the ubuntu repo and compile from source?
[22:32] <F41L> lovely
[22:32] <cvtsx> someone want to give me some movie suggestions?
[22:32] <MonkeyDust> cvtsx  wrong channel
[22:32] <SchrodingersScat> cvtsx: do a remake of citizen kane
[22:33] <DthZig> Yes that makes sense :) They already did a remake of Wrath of Khan and that was a success :)
[22:36] <JdpenseakaJoshDP> hmm
[22:36] <F41L> So how would I take proftpd-dev package and compile it with ALL modules included?
[22:36] <oilerff> .com
[22:38] <sam113101> HELP
[22:38] <JdpenseakaJoshDP> wow alot of ppl are quiting :P
[22:38] <sam113101> rhythmbox doesn't work
[22:39] <MonkeyDust> !details | sam113101
[22:39] <techlord> I have double checked and the PC I am trying to access has file sharing setup and can access it from other PC's but not this one, but I can get to my other PC's any ideas?
[22:39] <sam113101> MonkeyDust: I try to open it but nothing happens
[22:40] <basil_> Hi I upgraded to Ubuntu12.04 in the last fortnight. For the first time, trying to access the internet, and it tells me that a DNS lookup failed. I'm just a home user with a router - don't recall messing with DNS settings previously. May I please get any advice?
[22:40] <techlord> I keep getting unable to mount and failed to retieve share list
[22:41] <shomon> hi, how do you mount an hfsplus disk so it's writable?
[22:41] <shomon> it's a wd elements
[22:41] <oilerff> like this
[22:41] <shomon> external
[22:42] <shomon> I tried sudo mount -thfsplus /dev/sdb2 /media/hfsdrive
[22:44] <seoNinjaWarrior> i'm hoping someone can help, I'm using rsnapshot and it seems to complete successfully and yet do nothing http://pastebin.com/HmrGjrPL - that has my config, the output to the screen, and output to log file. I know this is ubuntu channel but I figured someone here would know how to fix this. I'm 2 hours in and about to pull out the rest of my hair
[22:46] <oilerff> The asking to answering ratio is imbalanced.
[22:47] <sam113101> I know, right?
[22:47] <rypervenche> Free is free.
[22:47] <techlord> It is a free open room it happens LOL
[22:48] <txt23> Is there a way to get the feel of Elemtry OS while still using Ubuntu?
[22:48] <loa> hello, what meen "The following packages have been kept back" when i do upgrade http://pastebin.com/pni82bNu
[22:49] <rypervenche> loa: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[22:50] <techlord> I have double checked and the PC I am trying to access has file sharing setup and can access it from other PC's but not this one, but I can get to my other PC's any ideas?
[22:50] <techlord> I keep getting unable to mount and failed to retieve share list
[22:52] <purpleleaf> techloard - is it nfs?
[22:52] <techlord> Yes
[22:53] <oilerff> techlord, don't PM me please
[22:53] <techlord> and I have accessed it before when I was using 10
[22:53] <techlord> soor
[22:53] <techlord> sorry
[22:53] <oilerff> my client said you attempted to PM me, but I can't see what you said so why don't you just ask me here
[22:54] <techlord> Sorry, still learning irc chat
[22:54] <zoned> i'm a total noob, and trying to reformat a drive. i don't know if it's the way i'm mounting it, or how i'm creating my partitions, or what.... but it keeps registering my 750GB drive as 134MB. anyone care to walk me through this? im pulling my hair out
[22:54] <techlord> I was just looking for help with my connecting to a PC on my network
[22:55] <techlord> I can get to all my other pc's but one
[22:55] <techlord> and it is killing me LOL
[22:55] <daftykins> techlord: whats being shared by what method between what OSs?
[22:55] <purpleleaf> what is in /etc/exports on the nfs server machine?
[22:55] <oilerff> I'm not proficient in Ubuntu, but generally you can get a better answer by posting your question on the channel than by PMing some random person
[22:55] <purpleleaf> If the other PC's can access, then is the ip/network/name/whatever not allows in /etc/exports?
[22:56] <techlord> Purpleleaf: I am getting this error when I go to the network folder
[22:56] <MonkeyDust> zoned  what's the output of    df -h ? use pastebin to show it to the channel
[22:56] <techlord> Oh I see
[22:56] <sealbhach> zoned: look at how it sees it in Gparted, the partition editor. Be careful not to change anything, just look for now
[22:56] <techlord> Sorry for my ignorance I can not even find how to connect with IP LOL
[22:57] <basil_> thanks guys....I'll try a little later
[22:57] <zoned> MonkeyDust: i just deleted the only partition and rebooted. so how should i mount it now? mount -t reiserfs /dev/disk/by-id/<the id> will make df -h show it as 134MB
[22:58] <demsad> Can someone help me? I use openvpn service vpnbook. I've configured everything the same as in the howto. It works fine, but i've got a problem. I can't close vpn connection. When i close terminal vpn still works. VPN closes only after system's restart. How can i close vpn?
[22:58] <MonkeyDust> zoned  not sure if reiserfs works well with ubuntu
[22:59] <TJ-> demsad: Is the openvpn client session defined as a system service, in "/etc/openvpn/" ?
[22:59] <zoned> its actually an unraid server, but #unraid is dead.... ubuntu is the only other linux exp i have so i thought i'd just come here :-/
[23:00] <kartoffelfreund> hello everybody... is someone fit in server maintenance? i have a little issue with my raspberryPI,a backup and a read only system
[23:00] <MonkeyDust> zoned  tip: there's also #ubuntu-server
[23:01] <kartoffelfreund> thanks for the hint... hope theyÄll help raspbian-users too ;)
[23:02] <TJ-> zoned: If the drive has no partitions defined you cannot mount it. You should create a new partition table with one or more partitions that use up the entire space on the drive, then use "mkfs.$FILESYSTEM_TYPE ... /dev/sdXY" to create the file-system in partition Y on drive X. *then* you can mount the file-system in /dev/sdXY
There is a folder 'openvpn" in /etc. Does it mean that openvpn client session defines as a system service?
[23:03] <zoned> TJ-: how can i create a partition if its not mounted?
[23:03] <dirdirdir> I've a problem with my internet connection, can someone pls help me?
[23:03] <zoned> fdisk?
[23:03] <TJ-> demsad: No, I was asking if you'd installed the client session config file to that location. If you did, that would imply it is a system session and would be expected to come up at boot-time and close at shutdown
[23:03] <MonkeyDust> zoned  create a partition, then mount that partition in a folder
[23:04] <TJ-> zoned: You do not partition a file-system, you partition a raw device. After partitioning you format each partition with a file-system, and then mount those file-systems
[23:04] <dirdirdir> Hello, can somebody help me?
[23:05] <bobby_> hello
[23:05] <oilerff> No one can help you! Mwahahaha
[23:05] <dirdirdir> Hi, booby_. I've a problem with my internet conection
[23:05] <dirdirdir> Oh my... :( :p
[23:05] <sealbhach> Who is boss, you or computer? Impose your will on it!
No, i haven't installed the client session config file
[23:05] <loa> rypervenche, thx, so why this happens?
[23:05] <loa> rypervenche, i don't upgrade totally my distro?
[23:05] <dirdirdir> Problem is, my wifi is working, and i can see my internet connection, but i can't click it.
[23:06] <TJ-> demsad: OK... how did you define the client session? Using NetworkManager from the nm-applet GUI on the desktop?
[23:06] <dirdirdir> I've no access to my internet connection, which is laying there ahead, laughing at me.
[23:06] <sealbhach> dirdirdir, have you checked all available drivers have been installed?
 I write in terminal: openvpn --config vpnbook-euro1-udp25000.ovpn
[23:07] <dirdirdir> sealbhach, I checked my "additional drivers" at "software &..." Is that enough?
[23:08] <TJ-> demsad: Ahh OK. In which case you have started an openvpn process which continues running in the background. You'll need to send it the TERM signal using something like this: "sudo kill -TERM $(pidof openvpn)"
[23:09] <zoned> TJ-: ok, fdisk -l shows my disk as 750G - so now what should i do?
[23:09] <javanic> hello all
[23:09] <reisio> 'lo javanic
[23:10] <TJ-> zoned: Create a partition table with at least one (n)ew partition, and (w)rite it to disk, then "mkfs.$FILESYSTEM_TYPE ..." the new partition
[23:10] <sealbhach> dirdirdir: it's best you have a wired ethernet connection, to make sure you can download any wireless drivers that might be needed
[23:10] <jan> hi
[23:10] <jan> i installed ubuntu 13.04
[23:11] <MonkeyDust> !partition | zoned take a look this to get familiar with partitioning
[23:11] <Guest38481> i used a new ssd and installed the os on a lvm partiton
[23:11] <Guest38481> how can i enable hibernate?
[23:11] <dirdirdir> Sealbhach: I do have one. How do i search them? Do I have to search for them one by one manually?
[23:11] <Guest38481> and create a swap partiton
[23:12] <zoned> okay, i've got one primary partition on the disk, wrote it. where do i run mkfs?
[23:12] <javanic> anyone ever have any issues with an install on a laptop?
[23:12] <sealbhach> There should be something in "Hardware Drivers" that will fetch the driver for you, just make sure you select it by clicking on it
[23:12] <bezaban> javanic: it can happen yes
[23:13] <oilerff> javanic, not me
[23:13] <zoned> mkfs /dev/sdX ?
[23:13] <Tylertwo> javanic: I've had installs work well on 2 different laptops
[23:13] <javanic> how do you make it red when you talk directly to me?
[23:13] <sealbhach> dirdirdir: Unless you have a very weird or rare wireless card, it should be easy to get it working
[23:13] <bezaban> javanic: it's your client highlighting your name
[23:13] <bezaban> noone else sees that :)
[23:14] <javanic> i installed it and it won't update.. i have a feeling it has something to do with a driver. but i'm not sure
[23:14] <javanic> the wifi also doesn't seem to work
[23:14] <javanic> running slow
[23:14] <dirdirdir> Sealchach: Well, i got my card supposedly working, do you think it isn't alredy giving me it's full service? (anyway, i'm doing as you have told me first)
[23:15] <zoned> i did "mkfs -t reiserfs /dev/sdc0" and got "Stat of the device '/dev/sdc0' failed"
Thank you! It works fine.
[23:15] <TJ-> zoned: partition numbers start at 1 :)
[23:15] <TJ-> zoned: check with "ls /dev/sdc*"
[23:16] <sealbhach> dirdirdir: You might have to reboot to get it fully loaded and working the first time
[23:17] <dirdirdir> Sealbhach: damn, now that's something i really don't know how to do.
[23:18] <mrrcp> trickle did not work :(
[23:19] <javanic> anyone know what would cause a new install to not want to update?
[23:19] <mrrcp> javanic: ?
[23:19] <mrrcp> more details?
[23:19] <genii> javanic: Perhaps it was not connected to a network during install and so has only the contents of the install CD in it's sources.list
[23:19] <zoned> TJ-: got it! thanks dude
[23:20] <javanic> it wasn't connected to the internet during install.. but it is now, and i even booted from the install disk and didn't do anyting. just froze up
[23:22] <javanic> genii: is there any way to re install from the cd, i booted from it again and it didn't do anyting but freeze up
[23:22] <oilerff> reinstall then
[23:23] <sealbhach> javanic: have you enough space on the disk to download and install updates?
[23:23] <javanic> sealbhach: yes, the hard drive was wiped prior to this install
 i don't mind re installing.. it would probably be easier, but when i tried it just froze up on me
 with network connected that it
[23:25] <javanic> is*
[23:26] <sealbhach> Don't know, must be a network problem, maybe you can select a different server during the install process?
 i wasn't connected to a network during the install process
[23:28] <owdjaodopj> How do I prevent wifi from auto connecting after signing in + if a network goes down... it's automatically connecting to other networks\reconnecting... errrrr
[23:29] <xyzone> owdjaodopj, delete those other networks
[23:29] <owdjaodopj> ..................
[23:29] <xyzone> from network manager configs
[23:30] <xyzone> or uncheck the 'connect automatically' box
[23:33] <udon> I found the "Unity Tweak Tool." Is that basically the only option to configure Unity?
[23:34] <reisio> primary GUI option, AFAIK
[23:36] <MonkeyDust> udon  take a look at dconf-editor, inside it, use ctrl-f to look for unity
[23:36] <udon> will do, thanks MonkeyDust
[23:50] <Tahdas> Hi
[23:50] <Tahdas> Can you see this?
[23:50] <Dwarf> Yes.
[23:50] <mrrcp> [yes
[23:50] <Tahdas> Ok
[23:50] <Dwarf> Are you an alien?
[23:50] <mrrcp> whats up
[23:50] <Tahdas> So i have tow options to boot from
[23:50] <mrrcp> anyone use CT
[23:50] <Tahdas> Uefi sandisk cruzer etc
[23:51] <Tahdas> Or the same thing whiteout uefi n front of it
[23:51] <Tahdas> Yes I a,
[23:51] <mrrcp> tc
[23:51] <Tahdas> I am an alien
[23:51] <Dwarf> kk
[23:56] <AnAlien> Hello can u see me
[23:56] <Dwarf> Yes.
[23:56] <AnAlien> Ok
[23:56] <AnAlien>   
[23:56] <mrrcp> ?
[23:56] <cgtdk> !offtopic
[23:56] <mrrcp> wat
[23:56] <AnAlien> Ok I have two boot options
[23:57] <loa> sometimes i see running such command from nobody find / -ignore_readdir_race ( ~t/mount$\) ) -prune -o -print0
[23:57] <mrrcp> !offtopic | cgtdk
[23:57] <loa> what is it?
[23:57] <AnAlien> One is uefi and the other is not
[23:57] <loa> it is making really many ios
[23:57] <reisio> loa: it's searching your entire FS for files
[23:57] <loa> and for what?
[23:57] <AnAlien> Well three options one is windows
[23:57] <mrrcp> !uefi
[23:57] <AnAlien> Im trying to boot off a USB drive
[23:58] <reisio> loa: for everything, it looks like
[23:58] <reisio> loa: it's making a list of every file
[23:58] <reisio> loa: minus the readdir stuff
[23:58] <loa> looks like like it is for mlocate
[23:58] <reisio> ah, quite possible
[23:58] <loa> reisio, ^^
[23:58] <reisio> pgrep -l updatedb
[23:58] <AnAlien> So i should pick the uefi option?
[23:58] <reisio> sudo crontab -l | grep -i update
[23:59] <reisio> AnAlien: 'not'?
[23:59] <reisio> it says 'not'?
[23:59] <AnAlien> UEFI: sandisk cruzer glide 1.26
[23:59] <AnAlien> Or sandisk cruzer guide 1.26
[23:59] <reisio> AnAlien: interesting
[23:59] <AnAlien> Not? Huh?