[01:10] <OvenWerks> zequence: using a logo to pint to the website of the project the logo belongs to is pretty basic stuff. There should be no issue.
[01:10] <OvenWerks> i think it was David that did ardour 3
[02:03] <smartboyhw> zequence, ping
[03:42] <OvenWerks> smartboyhw: hello.
[03:43] <OvenWerks> zequence: ardour3 ends up in the media playback menu
[05:30] <zequence> OvenWerks: No, it was smartboyhw who made it happen
[05:44] <Noskcaj> Can someget the the latest ardour3 synced? It fixes an FTBFS on arm (hf and 64) and PPC
[05:46] <Noskcaj> the only other change is translation support
[06:20] <smartboyhw> Noskcaj, just use requestsync command?
[06:20] <Noskcaj> I was just going to check with people here first, and yell at my brother till he stops using all out internet
[06:21] <smartboyhw> Noskcaj, LOL
[06:21] <smartboyhw> requestsync running
[06:21] <smartboyhw> Noskcaj, er, it IS synced?
[06:22] <smartboyhw> 23 minutes ago
[06:22] <smartboyhw> WTF i386 failure!?
[06:27] <Noskcaj> noooooooooooo
[06:29] <Noskcaj> It might be worth asking for a re-run of the build. But that's the same place that arm used to crash
[06:36] <smartboyhw> uch
[06:36] <smartboyhw> *Ouch
[06:39] <smartboyhw> Hmm, failure also in Debian
[06:46] <smartboyhw> Sigh, the not-so-important architectures' FTBFS are fixed, now the crucial one died-.-
[06:46] <smartboyhw> died = FTBFS
[09:06] <smartboyhw> Fortunately -release pocket is still OK
[09:06] <smartboyhw> OvenWerks, zequence pushed ardour3 addition of i386 and amd64 to the seeds
[09:07] <zequence> smartboyhw: Ah, great
[09:07] <zequence> thanks
[09:07] <smartboyhw> zequence, I don't want any uploads to update -meta though
[09:07] <smartboyhw> Need to get the whole thing fixed
[09:16] <zequence> right
[11:48] <smartboyhw> zequence, the build failures are to be fixed in Ubuntu soon (thanks Laney)
[13:08] <smartboyhw> Hurray hurray hurray, the build now does not FTBFS
[13:09] <smartboyhw> Waiting for it to migrate to -release and will update the seed entry
[13:19] <smartboyhw> Now in -release, let me update seeds
[13:20] <smartboyhw> zequence, I now request an update to ubuntustudio-meta;)
[13:20] <smartboyhw> micahg, ^
[13:20] <smartboyhw> I think I have to file a FFe though
[13:25] <smartboyhw> Bug 1235651
[13:56] <smartboyhw> Yay, FFe acked
[14:35] <OvenWerks> zequence, smartboyhw: should we also fix -menu to put it in the right place?
[14:35] <smartboyhw> OvenWerks, we should
[14:35] <smartboyhw> OvenWerks, since you are the expert on -menu, I sincerely ask you to do it;)
[14:36]  * OvenWerks notes that binary packages from the ardour website would auto matically be in the right place and wonders why debian broke tha.
[14:37] <smartboyhw> OvenWerks, I think they want to differentiate between Ardour 2 and Ardour 3
[14:37] <OvenWerks> smartboyhw: I will have to reboot :)
[14:37] <smartboyhw> OvenWerks, OK sure
[14:38] <OvenWerks> Yeah but the ardour 3 packages from ardour have the recording category while the debian ones (both 2 and 3) do not.
[14:38] <smartboyhw> OvenWerks, because Debian runs on GNOME I think (dunno)
[14:39] <OvenWerks> I thiink it has to do with lintian
[14:39] <smartboyhw> OvenWerks, OK
[14:40] <OvenWerks> but yes the "movers and shakers" are headed towards a menuless desktop.
[14:41] <OvenWerks> (that includes not just debian and unity but MS and Apple I think)
[14:42] <smartboyhw> OvenWerks, the fix for ubuntustudio-menu is to edit the /etc/xdg/menus/applications-merged/studio.menu file?
[14:42] <OvenWerks> yes
[14:42] <OvenWerks> two places
[14:42] <OvenWerks> Are you about to do so, or am I goiing to do it?
[14:42] <smartboyhw> OvenWerks, about to do so (doing actually)
[14:43] <OvenWerks> Ok, I won't :)  Thank you
[14:44] <OvenWerks> Family life has been pretty busy lately. Birthdays, Aniversary and my wife has her grad this week.
[14:44] <smartboyhw> OvenWerks, revision 86 pushed to lp:ubuntustudio-menu, would you please check. 
[14:44] <smartboyhw> OvenWerks, nice:)
[14:47] <OvenWerks> LP is slow today
[14:48] <smartboyhw> OvenWerks, :(
[14:52] <OvenWerks> opps
[14:52] <smartboyhw> OvenWerks, ?
[14:52] <OvenWerks> the first line you changed seems to be missing the </filename> at the end of the line
[14:53] <smartboyhw> OvenWerks, uh oh, let me fix
[14:54] <smartboyhw> OvenWerks, revision 87 pushed
[14:57] <OvenWerks> OK, I pass it then. Looks good to me
[14:57] <smartboyhw> micahg, please update -meta and upload -menu then:)
[14:59] <OvenWerks> Looking at your first change I see you added a space in front of the first line. Was that intentional?
[14:59] <smartboyhw> OvenWerks, not really, just that it fitted my tab width on gedit-.-
[14:59] <OvenWerks> http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntustudio-dev/ubuntustudio-menu/ubuntustudio-menu/revision/86
[14:59] <OvenWerks> is where I saw that.
[15:00] <OvenWerks> I don't know if that breaks the menu or not.
[15:00] <smartboyhw> OvenWerks, huh?
[15:00] <smartboyhw> That's not intentional
[15:00] <OvenWerks> let me check
[15:01] <smartboyhw> OvenWerks, any how, pushing rev. 88 to fix
[15:02] <smartboyhw> pushed'
[15:03] <OvenWerks> Doesn't seem to make any difference anyway... which because it is xml makes sense... but thankyou.
[15:04] <smartboyhw> The last feature of Ubuntu Studio 13.10:P
[15:06] <OvenWerks> I think by 14.04 we will have tested ardour 3 enough that 2 will not be needed. But not really my decision :)
[15:08] <smartboyhw> OvenWerks, I do hear that Ardour 2 sessions can't be opened in Ardour 3... Probably nice to keep it for 14.04 LTS, then dump it for 14.10.
[15:08] <smartboyhw> OvenWerks, hey, you are the second in-hand here;)
[15:08] <smartboyhw> No.1 is zequence, No.2 is you:P
[15:08] <OvenWerks> Ardour 3 can inport ardour 2 sessions, just not the other way around.
[15:09] <OvenWerks> once you open an ardour 2 session with ardour 3 you can't open the same session with ardour 2
[15:09] <smartboyhw> Yes, that
[17:38] <cub> Do we include applications that is not in Debian or Ubuntu repos?
[17:46] <cub> zequence, what kind of licensing issues are there with the name and artwork? I've heard that it's a bit unclear on who created the logo, but are there more?
[17:50] <OvenWerks> cub: so far as I know, the apps have to be in the ubuntu repos to be on the ISO.
[17:50] <OvenWerks> The iso builder has to be able to find them after all
[17:51] <cub> I thought so. I was looking at the email about supercollider
[17:51] <cub> but a quick check it seems to be on a ppa only
[17:51] <OvenWerks> There is nothing to stop us from adding apps to our extra installers that require outside ppa access
[17:52] <cub> aha
[17:52] <OvenWerks> In fact there already are some :)
[17:52] <cub> really? do you know which ones?
[17:52] <OvenWerks> They just don't show up untill the user adds a ppa with the package in it
[17:53] <OvenWerks> I know some of the non- stuff is in there like non-mixer etc.
[17:54] <OvenWerks> I have also tried to make sure that these apps would end up in the right menu if they are installed
[17:54] <OvenWerks> linux-sampler may be there too
[17:57] <OvenWerks> On the same note anyone who installs SW that ends up in the wrong menu, should tell us where it shows up, where it should be (or at least what the SW does) and what the name of the desktop file is.
[17:58] <cub> cool
[17:59] <cub> those non- applications look really nice. have you tried them OvenWerks ?
[18:15] <zequence> cub: Actually, I think we already include supercollider
[18:15] <zequence> Or we used to anyway
[18:15] <zequence> I added it myself a few cycles back
[18:16] <cub> hehe there you go
[18:16] <zequence> But, there has been some big changes/additions since then
[18:17] <zequence> This is why we need someone who does the application choice part
[18:17] <zequence> for each workflow
[18:18] <zequence> who knows what else we are missing
[18:19] <cub> yeah I hope to get some time back soon to dig in
[18:23] <cub> an apt-cache search show supercollider
[18:23] <cub> hmm I just assumed it wasn't there since he asked to include it
[18:23] <cub> and the first google link went to a ppa
[18:24] <zequence> No, we don't include it
[18:25] <zequence> Cant' find me adding it either
[18:26] <zequence> So, I guess I didn't do that then?!
[18:26] <zequence> Well, we should
[18:26] <zequence> for next cycle
[18:28] <cub> an apt-get install supercollider would install it. 
[18:28] <cub> so easy enough to include i suppose
[19:02] <cub> It seems Orca has not listed speech-dispatcher as a dependcy since the user might not want to use speech at all, but just braille. Also there are several other speech syntheses to choose from and one should be chosen during installation. So I would need to add it just as I did with brltty to be able to run it on the ISO and during installation.