| skellat | brainwash: I can confirm that the trash issue is gone | 00:01 |
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| Unit193 | Ah, new gvfs and indicators today. | 00:34 |
| jjfrv8 | ochosi, yes, the Parole docs are still on my agenda. Other stuff has gotten in the way recently. | 00:54 |
| jjfrv8 | Should be able to turn my attention to it in the next couple of days. | 00:55 |
| slickymaster | Noskcaj, cy tomorrow | 01:02 |
| smartboyhw | skellat, congratulations! | 02:03 |
| bluesabre | ochosi, knome: I've been trying to get it into my ppa with no luck, hopefully micahg can accomplish it | 02:06 |
| Noskcaj | Does anyone else's desktop keep freezing? | 02:45 |
| brainwash | Noskcaj: xfdesktop? it should not freeze anymore after the recent gvfs update | 08:50 |
| brainwash | after deleting files and then hovering over the trash icon | 08:51 |
| Noskcaj | brainwash, my issue is different, and i probably caused it. Either the icons disappear or they stop working | 08:54 |
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| brainwash | Noskcaj: you already updated gvfs to 1.18.2, right? | 09:04 |
| Noskcaj | I upgraded thismorning, i'll apt-get update again | 09:05 |
| brainwash | the fact that icons disappear indicates a crash of xfdesktop I guess | 09:07 |
| brainwash | usually xfdesktop should get restored by the xfce session manager | 09:07 |
| knome | congrats skellat | 09:52 |
| brainwash | ochosi: I can't test it right now, but my test installation seems to be affected by https://bugs.archlinux.org/task/35348 | 10:01 |
| brainwash | ochosi: using numix currently, I'll test other themes later | 10:02 |
| elfy | hi knome | 10:18 |
| knome | hey elfy | 10:25 |
| elfy | keeping busy I hope :) | 10:26 |
| knome | heh, a bit too busy | 10:26 |
| elfy | :( | 10:27 |
| knome | at least to get productive with foss | 10:27 |
| knome | gonna be fourth night in a row not home today | 10:27 |
| elfy | oh | 10:28 |
| elfy | you should get someone to remind you were you live ;) | 10:29 |
| smartboyhw | elfy, nah, Google Maps is enough;) | 10:29 |
| knome | elfy, haha, that's true | 10:30 |
| ochosi | ali1234: would be lovely if you could give it a shot, just don | 10:48 |
| ochosi | ali1234: 't think i can be of much help, i have very minimal experience with PPAing | 10:49 |
| brainwash | finally, ochosi is here :) | 11:02 |
| brainwash | ochosi: GDK_CORE_DEVICE_EVENTS=1 does restore the normal scrollbar behavior in gedit (didn't test other gtk3 apps) | 11:06 |
| ochosi | brainwash: where does that go? | 11:08 |
| ochosi | in the .ini? | 11:08 |
| brainwash | it's a env var I guess | 11:09 |
| brainwash | can you reproduce the issue? | 11:10 |
| brainwash | only noticed it when running Xfce, works normal in unity and gnome3 | 11:11 |
| brainwash | ochosi: but the most important question remains: does xfce4-appfinder popup when starting it initially (fresh boot or relog)? | 11:13 |
| brainwash | it does not for me, the daemonized instance of xfce4-appfinder does get stuck at some point and is not able to respond to dbus messages | 11:14 |
| brainwash | from now on starting the appfinder is always deleted, because the dbus communication can't be established | 11:15 |
| brainwash | somehow the first window initialization gets stuck when calling "gtk_icon_theme_load_icon()" | 11:16 |
| brainwash | http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-branches/ubuntu/saucy/xfce4-appfinder/saucy-proposed/view/head:/src/appfinder-model.c#L1914 | 11:17 |
| brainwash | I'll test the more recent git version now | 11:17 |
| brainwash | with gdbus support | 11:17 |
| ochosi | with my touchpad there are no problems | 11:26 |
| ochosi | will try as soon as i get hold of a mouse | 11:26 |
| ochosi | appfinder still doesn't work for me | 11:26 |
| ochosi | meaning, your patch/suggestion with the xml config didn't help... | 11:28 |
| brainwash | yea, that was a random thingy | 11:28 |
| brainwash | so does the appfinder appear if you start it the first time? | 11:29 |
| brainwash | rather important question | 11:29 |
| ochosi | brainwash: nope, it doesn't seem so | 11:37 |
| elfy | is there actually a bug for this - or is it just you 2 with the issue | 11:38 |
| brainwash | ok, any idea, why it would get stuck at calling "gtk_icon_theme_load_icon()"? some sort race condition? | 11:38 |
| brainwash | bug 1048805 | 11:39 |
| ubottu | bug 1048805 in xfce4-appfinder (Ubuntu) "xfrun4 launches very slowly" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1048805 | 11:39 |
| ochosi | it's possible, gotta ask nick about that | 11:39 |
| elfy | oh old one | 11:40 |
| ochosi | yeah, longstanding one | 11:40 |
| brainwash | setting the return value to NULL (don't call that function -> don't load any images) fixes it | 11:41 |
| brainwash | it's system specific somewhat | 11:42 |
| brainwash | a fresh installation is not affected | 11:42 |
| brainwash | but let me first test the git version, before asking nick | 11:43 |
| ochosi | yeah, good idea | 11:48 |
| brainwash | ochosi: git version works always like expected | 12:11 |
| brainwash | backport the thingy, which makes it work magically? | 12:14 |
| ochosi | hm, guess you'd have to check which commit fixes it | 12:17 |
| ochosi | and then create a patch from that... | 12:18 |
| ochosi | (or ask nick to do another release, and we'd get it for 14.04 at least) | 12:18 |
| brainwash | ok, I'll ping him | 12:19 |
| brainwash | any more info about the gtk3 scrollbar problem? | 12:19 |
| brainwash | no clue, what's wrong with it | 12:20 |
| brainwash | the workaround works | 12:20 |
| ochosi | well as i said, my touchpad works fine | 12:23 |
| ochosi | will try to get a hold of a mouse on monday | 12:23 |
| brainwash | never mind, found the culprit.. overlay scrollbars | 12:23 |
| ochosi | oh right | 12:24 |
| ochosi | gotta go | 12:24 |
| ochosi | seeya brainwash | 12:24 |
| brainwash | bye ochosi | 12:24 |
| brainwash | bluesabre: what's the deal with https://code.launchpad.net/~smd-seandavis/xubuntu-default-settings/b2_fixes/+merge/187127 ? nobody wants to review it? :) | 18:40 |
| Unit193 | ochosi: Not sure if you were interested, but systemd-shim came in with the upgrade. | 21:25 |
| brainwash | ochosi: so I added a comment to the xfce4-appfinder bug report, don't feel like discussing this topic anymore, so just compile the git version with includes nick's gdbus migration patch | 21:27 |
| Unit193 | Not hitting that bug with alt+F2. | 21:27 |
| brainwash | yea, hardly anyone is affected | 21:28 |
| brainwash | btw which upgrade? | 21:28 |
| brainwash | 13.04 -> 13.10? | 21:28 |
| Unit193 | Raring -> Saucy. | 21:28 |
| brainwash | raring does ship with systemd-shim I think | 21:29 |
| brainwash | no, it does not | 21:30 |
| brainwash | getting bored of all these special cases :) | 21:31 |
| Unit193 | I thought I remembered purging it, but may have been some other sysd package. | 21:32 |
| brainwash | I'm pretty sure, that it got pulled in at some point after the release of raring | 21:33 |
| brainwash | and I removed it | 21:33 |
| Unit193 | It was newly installed for the upgrade. | 21:33 |
| brainwash | so we just leave things unchanged | 21:38 |
| Unit193 | Well, all I'm saying is Works for me™ | 21:39 |
| brainwash | no need to add systemd-shim as dependency | 21:39 |
| brainwash | still odd, only ochosi and I were affected by the missing package after upgrading to 13.10 | 21:41 |
| brainwash | same for the alt+f2 thingy | 21:41 |
| Unit193 | Well, it is quite easy to purge, doesn't remove anything I haven't already. Have any other sytemd packages missing? :P | 21:43 |
| brainwash | not anymore | 21:44 |
| brainwash | but the bug report does not only address the upgrade issue, you can purge the package at any time | 21:45 |
| brainwash | but it is somewhat required to restart/shutdown (xfce4-session) | 21:46 |
| brainwash | after the switch to systemd/logind | 21:46 |
| Unit193 | Thus, it'd make sense if xfce4-session depended on it, I'd guess. | 21:46 |
| Unit193 | (Well, if it works without it, recommends.) | 21:47 |
| brainwash | it did recommend consolekit before the switch | 21:47 |
| brainwash | ck is now gone | 21:48 |
| brainwash | well, deprecated | 21:48 |
| brainwash | it looks like most problems affecting xubuntu 13.10 are resolved now | 21:52 |
| brainwash | oh, almost forgot the most important one... gtk3 panel indicators :) | 21:55 |
| Unit193 | Who cares if you can log in and out, where are the indicators!? ;) | 21:55 |
| brainwash | the indicators are really important | 21:56 |
| brainwash | for the average user | 21:56 |
| Unit193 | Scrolling over the volume icon is how I change it, yes. alsamixer is the other way. (And a cronjob that mutes it at night, but that doesn't count.) | 21:57 |
| brainwash | time is running out, hopefully there will be a working solution for that before the final release | 21:58 |
| brainwash | oh, https://wiki.edubuntu.org/Xubuntu/Roadmap/Specifications/Saucy/Gtk3Indicators | 22:01 |
| Unit193 | Mhmm, I have a VM with that. | 22:08 |
| brainwash | I did not even know that such a howto exists on the net (ochosi never told me) | 22:10 |
| Unit193 | Well, linked to a few times. xfce4-indicator-plugin from git has two commits after the last release of interest. | 22:11 |
| Unit193 | I must say, it was pretty painless. | 22:21 |
| brainwash | but it won't make it in time for 13.10, or? | 22:23 |
| andrzejr | Unit193, brainwash, I can release new version anytime but (a) there is no rush (gtk3 indicator plugin won't be included in 13.10), (b) I'm waiting for an official xfce4-panel release (at the moment indicator plugin depends on an unreleased, non-master branch) | 22:32 |
| brainwash | so there is no need to hurry :) | 22:34 |
| Unit193 | andrzejr: He was going to try and slip it in still, if not release then at least backports. | 23:25 |
| Unit193 | But yeah, nothing bit yet. | 23:25 |
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