[00:24] <kubotu> ::workspace-bugs:: [1235016] Auto display dimming shows brightness meter popup @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1235016 (by Mark)
[08:02] <lordievader> Good morning.
[11:17] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[11:36] <markey> after upgrading to 13.10, the taglib check for ASF support (which should in taglib-extras) fails for me
[11:36] <markey> -- Performing Test TAGLIB_ASF_FOUND - Failed
[11:36] <markey> CMake Error at CMakeLists.txt:32 (message):
[11:36] <markey>   TagLib does not have ASF support compiled in.
[11:41] <markey> oh
[11:44] <Mamarok> and I have another problem: my upgrade to 13.10 beta2 stalls on configuring grub-pc
[11:45] <Mamarok> it hasn't moved since like 10 minutes or so
[11:46] <Mamarok> now what?
[11:50] <Mamarok> and why oh why is everything in German? My system is English, I only installed the language to have the spell checker
[11:51] <Mamarok> so what do I do now, kill the upgrade and try again from the command line?
[11:52] <markey> it's some issue with Clang. works with GCC
[11:56] <Mamarok> help?
[11:56] <markey> fixed my issue by reinstalling Clang
[11:56] <Mamarok> yeah, but your isuse is not really serious compared to mine
[11:57] <Mamarok> I have a stalled dist-upgrade and don't know what to do without runing the whole installation
[12:07] <Mamarok> where is everybody?
[13:22] <Mamarok> solved my problem in #ubuntu+1, the problem was a bad HD
[14:20] <Peace-> hello i was using the usb tool to create a live usb stick with kubuntu on 13.10
[14:20] <Peace-> and when i pressed erase disk 
[14:20] <Peace-> after a while ...
[14:20] <Peace-> rg.freedesktop.DBus.Error.NoReply: Did not receive a reply. Possible causes include: the remote application did not send a reply, the message bus security policy blocked the reply, the reply timeout expired, or the network connection was broken.
[15:52] <shadeslayer> Riddell: any news on the OwnCloud SRU? ( see trello 13.04 )
[17:13] <kubotu> ::workspace-bugs:: [1236013] power management automatically shuts the system down when second battery is low/dead even ... @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1236013 (by Craig Magina)
[18:06] <Riddell> shadeslayer: hmm looks to be stuck in proposed
[18:09] <Mamarok> so I managed to upgrade to 13.10 beta2, but now I have no sound in Chrome
[18:09] <Mamarok> no sound whatsoever
[18:10] <Mamarok> alsamixer shows nothing muted
[18:11] <Mamarok> holy crap, it tries to play through the attached second screen over the HDMI port, how weird is that
[18:12] <Mamarok> that is really totally screwed, my default soundcard is disabled, and it tries to use the screen
[18:13] <Mamarok> apachelogger: haalp
[18:13] <Mamarok> I want my sound back
[18:16] <kubotu> ::workspace-bugs:: [1236013] power management automatically shuts the system down when second battery is low/dead even ... @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1236013 (by Craig Magina)
[18:17] <Peace--> Mamarok: sudo adduser test ; sudo adduser test adm    ; #then use the new user test 
[18:17]  * Mamarok erases ~/.kde/share/config/phonondevicesrc and logs out and in again first
[18:17] <Peace--> good
[18:17] <Peace--> that makes sense
[18:17] <Peace--> Mamarok: let me know if that is a solution 
[18:18] <Mamarok> nope, didn't work
[18:18] <Peace--> mmm
[18:18] <Peace--> wait
[18:18] <Mamarok> still shows the HDMI port to be default for sound instead of my built-in soundcard
[18:18] <Mamarok> and it is completely disabled
[18:18] <Mamarok> how weird is that
[18:18] <soee> Mamarok, and you sisdn muted Chrome channel in Kmix ?
[18:19] <Mamarok> soee: read what I said above
[18:19] <Mamarok> nothing muted
[18:19] <Mamarok> it tries to play through the HDMI port, and there is onyl a screen attached to it, it toally ignores the default soundcard
[18:19] <Mamarok> grayed out, can't select it
[18:20] <Mamarok> how can something like that even happen? Where is the configuration file that allows me to select the real device?
[18:20] <Peace--> Mamarok: try to rename kmixrc
[18:21] <Mamarok> Peace--: I doubt this will help, the problem starts with the wrong sound card being selected
[18:21] <Mamarok> actually what is selected is not a soundcard
[18:21] <Peace--> Mamarok: alsamixer -V all in a terminal 
[18:21] <Mamarok> how can I change that? I doubt this is in kmixrc
[18:23] <Mamarok> it shows the HDMI port instead of the default sound card, the other one is not even an available option
[18:23]  * Mamarok hates alsa for screwing up stuff like that
[18:23] <Mamarok> so where is the alsa configuration so I can edit this?
[18:23] <Peace--> Mamarok: try with a new user ... like i said before 
[18:23] <Peace--> Mamarok: you can save your time 
[18:24] <Peace--> when there is something that i think is related to config files i always try a new user 
[18:25] <shadeslayer> Mamarok: try pavucontrol?
[18:26] <Mamarok> shadeslayer: no option to choose the sound card, as I said it is grayed out
[18:27]  * Mamarok is creating a new user with sudo rights, moment
[18:27] <shadeslayer> oh
[18:32] <Mamarok> same problem,
[18:32] <Mamarok> no sound, sound card not selectable
[18:32] <Mamarok> where are the alsa settings?
[18:32] <Peace--> Mamarok: kernel issue i guess
[18:33] <Peace--> if a new user did not fix that means that the kernel doesn't handle well your device
[18:33] <Peace--> Mamarok: did you attach something ? 
[18:33] <Peace--> if yes just unplug it 
[18:33] <Mamarok> *sigh*
[18:33] <BluesKaj> Mamarok, pastebin the output of cat /proc/asound/cards
[18:34] <Mamarok> this is my usualy setup, the only thing I did is upgrading to 13.10 beta2
[18:34] <Peace--> :) Mamarok that is your sign
[18:34] <Peace--> Mamarok: can you try with an older kernel ? i guess no
[18:35] <Mamarok> why oh why does it disable a sound card and uses a HDMI port?
[18:35] <Mamarok> I don't know if the old kernels are still there, but I guess yes
[18:35] <Mamarok> but for now I attached a speaker to the screen, sound is there, totally weird
[18:35] <BluesKaj> intel audio ?
[18:35] <Mamarok> yep
[18:36] <Mamarok> I changed absolutely nothing, it did work before, so that is a realy screw up
[18:36] <Mamarok> just upgraded to saucy
[18:36] <BluesKaj> sudo modprobe snd-hda-intel , that should load the kernel module , Mamarok
[18:36] <Mamarok> luckily I have speakers I can attach to the screen, but disabling the screen is definitely not an option
[18:36] <BluesKaj> probly need a reboot to make it stick
[18:38] <Mamarok> and could please somebody fix that language isuse? Id don't want my system to be in German, I want it to be in English
[18:38] <Mamarok> this is getting worse and worse, now all stuff I load is default in German, despite the language and locale are being set to us English
[18:38] <Mamarok> I reported this months ago
[18:39] <Mamarok> only thing set to Germany is the country
[18:39] <Mamarok> BluesKaj: will try that
[18:39]  * Mamarok reboots
[18:40] <Mamarok> BluesKaj: http://pastebin.kde.org/pctn5ylht for the soundcards
[18:41] <Mamarok> but it goes to HDMI, as alsamixer says: HDA Intel PCH, Chip Intel COugarPoint HDMI
[18:42] <Mamarok> for some weird reason it uses the hdmi port as default, I don't think it is the kernel module not loaded
[18:43] <BluesKaj> ok , Mamarok that shows the card but the kernel module driver fails to load after updates/upgrades , it's a common problem intel.
[18:43] <BluesKaj> with intel
[18:43]  * genii makes more coffee
[18:43] <Mamarok> well, I use this laptop since over 3 years and never had that problem
[18:43] <Mamarok> clrearly a regression
[18:44] <Mamarok> genii: tea for me :)
[18:44] <Mamarok> and it worked fine with Raring
[18:44]  * genii makes a nice pot of Earl Grey for Mamarok
[18:44] <Mamarok> so blaming Intel is probably not right
[18:44] <Mamarok> genii: thanks a bunch :)
[18:45]  * Mamarok reboots
[18:45] <genii> Mamarok: Anytime!
[18:46] <BluesKaj> Mamarok, open /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf as root and add this line to the bottom , options snd-hda-intel index=0 , that sets the intel driver as default in alsa 
[18:46] <BluesKaj> oops
[18:47] <Peace--> so it's the kernel ?
[18:48] <BluesKaj> it's the kernel module / driver 
[18:48] <Mamarok> BluesKaj: oh, let me try again
[18:49] <Peace--> i had very hard time with audio card ... -.-
[18:49] <Peace--> in the past 
[18:49] <BluesKaj> Mamarok, open /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf as root and add this line to the bottom , options snd-hda-intel index=0 , that sets the intel driver as default in alsa 
[18:49] <Mamarok> yes, seen that
[18:49] <Mamarok> I am on a bouncer, so I don't miss content :)
[18:50] <BluesKaj> i have the intel on my mobo and it auto selects the HDMI out as well 
[18:51] <genii> BluesKaj: I also have the same issue
[18:51] <Mamarok> BluesKaj: funny, there are a bazillion of options inn there defaulting to index=2 to prevent index=0 being used
[18:52] <Mamarok> maybe that was a bit too much tweaking?
[18:52] <Peace--> genii: btw it's not a laptop right ?
[18:52] <Mamarok> why does it even have to blacklist anything, can't I have both options?
[18:52] <BluesKaj> yes index=0 sets the driver a s first in the list , i have m-audio as ) and intelas 1
[18:53] <genii> Peace--: It is a laptop
[18:53] <BluesKaj> m-audio as 0
[18:53] <Peace--> genii: mmm so i am luck :D
[18:54] <Peace--> kubuntu has recognized all fine 13.10 
[18:54]  * Mamarok reboots
[18:54] <genii> Peace--: Older Acer Aspire 8730 with HDMI out, with 82801I (ICH9 Family) HD Audio Controller
[18:54] <BluesKaj> hehe 
[18:55] <Peace--> genii: ultra new laptop :D
[18:55] <Peace--> well it has an ati
[18:56] <Peace-->  sony-vaio-sve1512y1esi  http://nowardev.wordpress.com/2013/05/24/sony-vaio-sve1512y1esi-kubuntu-linux/
[18:56] <BluesKaj> another dirty method of solidifying the audio outputs is to setup pavucontrol
[18:56] <Peace--> BluesKaj: via gui ?
[18:56] <BluesKaj> which i despise but must use 
[18:57] <Mamarok> BluesKaj: that didn't help
[18:57] <Peace--> Mamarok: tried with an old kernel ?
[18:57] <BluesKaj> well i don't use it now since it's builtin to the hardware settings in audio/video in systemsettings
[18:58] <Mamarok> Peace--: I know the 13.08 works, I used it this morning, this is the 13.11 kernel, no need to even try
[18:58] <Mamarok> the problem is with this kernel
[18:58] <BluesKaj> ok
[18:58] <Peace--> but with upgrade old kernels are there or not?
[18:59] <Mamarok> I ran Saucy with the old kernel earlier, no problems
[18:59] <Peace--> ah
[18:59] <Mamarok> Peace--: well, I didn't remove anything
[18:59] <Mamarok> read what I just said :)
[18:59] <Peace--> so as  i thought it was the kernel for sure
[18:59] <Mamarok> now that is a big pile of crap, such a regressions shouldn't happen
[19:00] <Peace--> xD
[19:00] <Peace--> i had those problems from 6.10 to 8.04
[19:00]  * Peace-- audio problems mic did not work
[19:00] <Mamarok> never had such a problem, I use an external screen over HDMI since almsot 2 years now
[19:00] <BluesKaj> what's the multimedia audio/video setting in system settings Mamarok ?
[19:02] <Mamarok> BluesKaj: I already told that earlier: the internal Audio Analog Stero card is grayed out, the internal Audio Digital Steroe (HDMI) is selected
[19:02] <Mamarok> why is this even grayed out? Can't I have both options available?
[19:02] <Peace--> Mamarok: tell one thing ... 
[19:02] <Peace--> Mamarok: can you try kdesudo systemsettings ?
[19:03] <Peace--> Mamarok: still grey ?
[19:03] <Peace--> grayé
[19:03] <Peace--> -.-
[19:03] <Mamarok> yep
[19:03] <Peace--> ok no idea
[19:04] <Peace--> sudo adduser $USER audio video 
[19:04] <Peace--> maybe 
[19:04] <Peace--> but i don't think so 
[19:04] <Mamarok> oh, I found something: there is no default profile set, if I select one it uses the internal card
[19:04] <Mamarok> so it is probably not the kernel, but either phonon or PA
[19:06] <BluesKaj> default profile ? where ?
[19:07] <Mamarok> in the system settings -> Multimedia -> Audio and Video Settings -> Audio Hardware Setup
[19:07] <Mamarok> that is PA, no?
[19:07] <Mamarok> the sound card shows "Internal Audio" and without a profile it uses the HDMI port exclusively
[19:07] <Mamarok> if one sets a profile the other options become available
[19:08] <BluesKaj> yes that's the PA audio out setttings 
[19:09] <Peace--> Mamarok: so you can fix ?
[19:09] <Mamarok> yep, already fixed
[19:09] <Peace--> :)
[19:09] <Mamarok> but still a regression, there is no default profile set
[19:10] <Mamarok> so a user with more than one output means will run into this
[19:10] <Peace--> right
[19:10] <Mamarok> apachelogger: you need a bug report for this?
[19:10] <Peace--> fill the bug and report the solution 
[19:11] <BluesKaj> I still only have the graphics audio passthru to the DVI out (HDMI)on the graphics card 
[19:11] <BluesKaj> for the intel profile 
[19:12] <BluesKaj> no analog options at all on the mobo soundchip 
[19:12] <BluesKaj> definitely a bug 
[19:13] <Mamarok> so where do I report this to: PA, Phonon?
[19:14] <BluesKaj> good question :)
[19:14] <Mamarok> pa I think, as Phonontakes over what pa provides
[19:15] <Peace--> bb 
[19:15] <Mamarok> AFAIK
[19:18] <kubotu> ::workspace-bugs:: [1236044] package kdm 4:4.8.5-0ubuntu0.3 failed to install/upgrade: subprocess installed pre-removal... @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1236044 (by ssrdatar@hotmail.com)
[19:19] <Mamarok> gah, I hate launchpad for searching a bug, timeout error again and again
[19:20] <BluesKaj> yeah , krunner isn't wsorking herte , have to launch folders etc fom yakuake
[19:21] <Mamarok> holy crap, where do I report this to?
[19:21] <Mamarok> browsing is impossible I get a timeout every time I try an advanced search
[19:21] <BluesKaj> launchpad maybe
[19:22] <Mamarok> no, I want to report that pa bug, but I don't know where, as I never even arrive in there
[19:22] <Mamarok> could I have a direct link from somebody who manages to find the right place?
[19:23] <Mamarok> ok, now it let me in
[19:30] <Mamarok> any tag I should set?
[19:30] <Mamarok> and which milestone, 13.10?
[19:32] <Mamarok> erm, why is that filed in kde-workspace now?
[19:35] <Mamarok> ok, bug 1236067 filed
[19:35] <Mamarok> gosh, why is this such a hassle to file a bug in Launchpad? So easy in bko
[20:03] <ovidiu-f> hello everybody
[20:05] <soee> hi ovidiu-f 
[20:20] <ovidiu-f> apachelogger are you around?
[22:21] <littlegirl> Hey there, anybody from the doc team on?