| === jje is now known as Guest44735 | ||
| gallonimus | Hi! I have installed u 13.10b2 and I don't have virtualgl in repo (neded to bumblebee). Why? | 10:07 |
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| gallonimus | second problem (probably connected to graphic) is blinking mouse cursor | 10:08 |
| === mibofra- is now known as mibofra | ||
| BluesKaj | Hiyas all | 11:17 |
| penguin42 | Hey BK | 11:18 |
| Mamarok | hi, I have a problem in a dist-upgrade from 13.04 to 13.10 beta2: it stalls at configuring grup-pc, what can I do? | 12:01 |
| penguin42 | Mamarok: you should be using do-release-upgrade to do that type of update - it fixes a bunch of random stuff up sometimes; having said that I don't know of any reason for what you're seeing to happen | 12:02 |
| penguin42 | Mamarok: Do you see any other debug/errors from the grub update? | 12:02 |
| Mamarok | penguin42: I did | 12:02 |
| Mamarok | there are no visible errors in that upgrade window, the last line is grup-pc is being installed | 12:03 |
| Mamarok | and no previous errors | 12:03 |
| Mamarok | it just hangs | 12:03 |
| penguin42 | hmm | 12:03 |
| penguin42 | do you have a separate /boot and has it got plenty of space in it? | 12:04 |
| Mamarok | no, but the drive on which I install has 90 GB free | 12:04 |
| Mamarok | no separate boot | 12:04 |
| Mamarok | so that should not be an isuse | 12:04 |
| penguin42 | hmm no immediate suggestion I'm afraid, my only thought is maybe it's doing a device probe and waiting for a non-existant device? | 12:05 |
| Mamarok | then an error message would be nice to have | 12:05 |
| Mamarok | but all devices are connected and working | 12:05 |
| penguin42 | yeh | 12:06 |
| penguin42 | anything in /var/log/dist-upgrade to give a hint? | 12:07 |
| Mamarok | there are several log files, which one do I look at? | 12:08 |
| penguin42 | apt-term.log seems to be most verbose | 12:08 |
| Mamarok | whcih si the exact same file I have already in the upgrade frontend, no errors there | 12:09 |
| Mamarok | main.log has this: http://pastebin.kde.org/ph4rf48ze | 12:10 |
| Mamarok | failed to SystemUnLock() | 12:10 |
| penguin42 | If it's still stuck I'd probably use ps to find the process that's still running and attack it with strace or something to see what it's doing - or I might try and ctrl-c it and run update-grub and see what happens | 12:11 |
| Mamarok | could that be the isuse? | 12:11 |
| penguin42 | hmm not sure, never looked in that log file before and never seen that message | 12:12 |
| penguin42 | right, breakfast - back in a little while | 12:13 |
| Mamarok | so update-grup finished without problem, at least that seems to have run correctly | 12:13 |
| Mamarok | running dpkg --configure -a now | 12:15 |
| Mamarok | I have a suspicion: I added a different background to my grub, and maybe it can't find that file anymore, that's why it hangs | 12:16 |
| * Mamarok edits her grub settings | 12:17 | |
| penguin42 | Mamarok: Did that fix it? | 12:38 |
| Mamarok | I was able to configure everaything else, but no, still stalls at installing grub-pc | 12:40 |
| Mamarok | is there an option to get a verbose output of what it is doing under the hood? | 12:40 |
| penguin42 | not that I know of, this is during the package configuration? | 12:41 |
| Mamarok | I guess so, for som strange reason my system outputs the lines in German, despite having everything else in English | 12:41 |
| penguin42 | erm ok, I'd assumed you were running the whole thing in German | 12:42 |
| Mamarok | I am in Germany and have the German language packs installed, but the system is in English, all locale set to us English too | 12:42 |
| Mamarok | I also have French language packs installed because I need both spell checkers, but the system should be in English, yet it insists on giving me a German terminal | 12:43 |
| penguin42 | Mamarok: if you do a dpkg -i on the grub-pc package from the command line does it hang in the same way? | 12:43 |
| Mamarok | very annoying | 12:43 |
| Mamarok | I first have to kill that process again, still ahngs | 12:43 |
| penguin42 | then the only thing I can suggest is using ps to find out what process is actually hung, and seeing what you can find out what it's doing | 12:45 |
| Mamarok | I now see two zombie processes forr grub-pc.postins | 12:45 |
| Mamarok | that might be the problem | 12:45 |
| penguin42 | yeh but the zombies probably are the symptom | 12:46 |
| penguin42 | it's something running from postinst - so the question is what's still trying to run? | 12:46 |
| Mamarok | every time I try to install it again it opens those two postins processes, which then are zombified | 12:49 |
| Mamarok | I will check with dpkg -i | 12:49 |
| Mamarok | hm, where are the packages again so I can run dpkg -i? Somewhere in /var ? | 12:51 |
| Mamarok | nvm, found it | 12:52 |
| Mamarok | that didn't really help, same problem | 12:54 |
| penguin42 | ok, that's kind of good - it's a simpler way to repeat | 12:55 |
| penguin42 | Mamarok: Can you paste bin a ps -eafl in the hung state? | 12:56 |
| penguin42 | (and don't kill it) | 12:56 |
| Mamarok | here you go: http://pastebin.kde.org/ps8duispp | 12:58 |
| penguin42 | ok, you see that mkdevicemap at line 129- I'd blame that | 12:59 |
| penguin42 | Mamarok: Can you pastebin ls -l /proc/2968/fd | 12:59 |
| Mamarok | I get this: http://pastebin.kde.org/pvgdcsfuk | 13:01 |
| penguin42 | Mamarok: OK, and what's sdc on your system? | 13:01 |
| Mamarok | I will unplug sdc | 13:01 |
| Mamarok | it is an external USB3 HD | 13:01 |
| penguin42 | were there any log messages about it in dmesg? | 13:02 |
| Mamarok | not that I recall | 13:02 |
| penguin42 | pastebin dmesg? | 13:03 |
| penguin42 | anyway, does it work with it unplugged? | 13:03 |
| Mamarok | trying now | 13:03 |
| Mamarok | not really, I have another zombie now :( | 13:06 |
| penguin42 | ok, lets do the same trick | 13:06 |
| Mamarok | what trick? | 13:07 |
| penguin42 | so does a ps still show mkdevicemap still stuck? | 13:07 |
| Mamarok | yep | 13:07 |
| Mamarok | and zombie, can't kill, not even with -9 | 13:07 |
| penguin42 | ok, and what files does it have open this time? | 13:07 |
| penguin42 | yeh that's because it's in D state which means it's wating on a device | 13:07 |
| Mamarok | erm, apparently I unplugged the wrong device, moment | 13:09 |
| penguin42 | haha | 13:09 |
| Mamarok | and that worked :) | 13:09 |
| penguin42 | good | 13:09 |
| penguin42 | Mamarok: Now, try pastebining your dmesg ? | 13:09 |
| Mamarok | it is an encrypted external HD, that might be the problem | 13:10 |
| penguin42 | encrypted how - luks or has it got a keypad or something weird? | 13:10 |
| Mamarok | just an encrypted partition, I don't even recally how I made that back then | 13:11 |
| Mamarok | recall* | 13:11 |
| penguin42 | hmm that shouldn't be a problem | 13:11 |
| penguin42 | Mamarok: thing is that mkdevicemap goes around and pings every disk to try and figure out the bios mapping, so it just reads a few blocks | 13:11 |
| Mamarok | so I grep dmesg for sdc? | 13:12 |
| Mamarok | I should ditch that device anyway, didn't use it in ages | 13:13 |
| penguin42 | yeh or anything near the end that looks like messy scsi or usb errors | 13:13 |
| Mamarok | here you go: http://pastebin.kde.org/phr9vdgz4 | 13:14 |
| penguin42 | yeh I mean that's not happy is it | 13:15 |
| Mamarok | not really, I ditch that HD, it is a quite small one anyway | 13:15 |
| Mamarok | anyway, thanks a lot for your help, that really was a pain to find | 13:16 |
| Mamarok | and I learnd a few things in the process :) | 13:17 |
| Mamarok | learned* | 13:17 |
| penguin42 | no problem | 13:17 |
| penguin42 | but just generally make sure all your hardware is happy before trying an upgrade | 13:17 |
| Mamarok | that's what I learned :) | 13:17 |
| Mamarok | penguin42: thank you very much for your patience :) | 13:20 |
| penguin42 | no problem | 13:20 |
| Mamarok | so rebooting is in order now :) | 13:21 |
| BluesKaj | I have some strange stuff happening , FF will play flash audio only on certain websites that contain their own players , but no audio on youtube . Chromium flash audio however, works on all sites | 13:41 |
| penguin42 | BluesKaj: pulse running ok? | 13:43 |
| BluesKaj | yes, all the stored media audio is fine ' | 13:45 |
| BluesKaj | penguin42,^ | 13:45 |
| brainwash | BluesKaj: youtube player muted? can you adjust the volume slider? | 13:46 |
| penguin42 | and/or is it muted in pulse | 13:46 |
| penguin42 | BluesKaj: try running paman and under the Devices->sinks for your sound output does it show something playing (for me it shows #1 from my audio player) | 13:47 |
| BluesKaj | no mutes anywhere | 13:47 |
| penguin42 | youtube shows as Alsa Playback under the paman devices/sinks section | 13:49 |
| BluesKaj | my pci m-audio soundcard is card 0 , and t's working fine on everything except firefox | 13:49 |
| penguin42 | BluesKaj: Yeh so my question is does the firefox show up in paman? | 13:50 |
| BluesKaj | penguin42, I run my audio thru spidif to an audio reciever with digital inputs penguin42 no , but neither does chromium , but chromium plays youtube audio just fine ..unless it also has a pulse plugin like chrome-browser does | 13:55 |
| BluesKaj | oops sorry I'll seprate those 2 replies | 13:56 |
| BluesKaj | no , but neither does chromium , but chromium plays youtube audio just fine ..unless it also has a pulse plugin like chrome-browser does | 13:56 |
| penguin42 | BluesKaj: But you're saying it's not showing up under devices-sinks? | 13:56 |
| penguin42 | BluesKaj: Even in chrome? | 13:57 |
| BluesKaj | there no browser links showing anywhere in paman' | 13:57 |
| penguin42 | BluesKaj: OK, but when you go into Devices in paman what does it show under sinks while something is playing? | 13:57 |
| BluesKaj | penguin42, no change in Devices in paman | 14:01 |
| penguin42 | BluesKaj: Right, but PLEASE tell us what you actually see in Devices-Sinks | 14:02 |
| BluesKaj | however the clients tab shows the Alsa-firefox plugin | 14:03 |
| penguin42 | BluesKaj: With youtube playing (even muted) I see ALSA plug-in [plugin-container] in clients and then a #17 ALSA Playback under the sunk in use | 14:04 |
| BluesKaj | yup ,same here | 14:08 |
| penguin42 | BluesKaj: So if you double click on the #17 a box opens with another volume slider - and a mute - what does it say? | 14:09 |
| BluesKaj | penguin42, I have no #17 here , dunno what you mean | 14:12 |
| penguin42 | let me take a pic | 14:12 |
| BluesKaj | i've decided to use chromium for youtube for now because it works ,...FF is obviously missing something with it's flash plugin not working on youtube | 14:14 |
| penguin42 | BluesKaj: http://imagebin.org/272923 | 14:14 |
| penguin42 | BluesKaj: You see the #18 ALSA Playback | 14:14 |
| penguin42 | BluesKaj: Do you get that when FF is playing youtube? | 14:15 |
| penguin42 | (the number changes) | 14:15 |
| BluesKaj | penguin42, ok , FF is playing youtube now , paman shows #29 for alsa playback | 14:18 |
| BluesKaj | I wish PA didn't exist alsa worked just fine previous to it's introduction | 14:20 |
| penguin42 | no it didn't - things used to break when one thing was playing that stopped something else playing | 14:24 |
| penguin42 | BluesKaj: OK, so double click on that #29 | 14:24 |
| BluesKaj | vol is at 100% | 14:26 |
| penguin42 | oh well - not that then! | 14:27 |
| penguin42 | note how it's got a separate volume there than under the device | 14:27 |
| BluesKaj | wife can't get youtube audio on her windows 7 pc either , has adobe flash been hacked there I wonder ? | 15:40 |
| penguin42 | haha | 15:41 |
| IdleOne | BluesKaj: don't know about hacking but I did see a few people on FB complaining that flash was giving them errors and wouldn't let them play games | 15:42 |
| BluesKaj | well the odd thing is that CBC , CNN , BBC sites that use embedded flash players work fine | 15:46 |
| BluesKaj | the HQ sites on youtube also use mp4 , which aren't working in the browsers but work fine off the hdd if DL'd witht the youtube downloader app | 15:47 |
| penguin42 | BluesKaj: You're sure your youtube is still using flash and not html? | 15:48 |
| BluesKaj | well ,html5 isn't working either :) | 15:48 |
| BluesKaj | tried it | 15:48 |
| penguin42 | nothing like consistency | 15:49 |
| BluesKaj | there's also a problem with krunner fialing to launch files and folders , until one has been opened in the terrminal | 16:00 |
| BluesKaj | BBL | 16:02 |
| === Jikan is now known as Jikai | ||
| Guest19677 | hello, I'm trying to understand what's going on | 16:15 |
| Guest19677 | I had to use nomodeset to get a visual desktop when booting on USB | 16:15 |
| Guest19677 | I'm using the VESA driver. How can I get the correct drivers? I don't see jockey-gtk anywhere, is there a different system? | 16:16 |
| brainwash | software sources, last tab | 16:16 |
| loa | hello | 16:17 |
| loa | i ubdated my ubuntu and it is little strange for me that unity-launcher changed | 16:17 |
| loa | i just want it to be static at my left side of screen | 16:17 |
| Guest19677 | brainwash, which is the good nividia driver? 319-updates? | 16:17 |
| loa | now i need to press "win" button to it appear | 16:18 |
| loa | and all my icons are gone | 16:18 |
| loa | maybe there is some kind of tweak or so | 16:18 |
| brainwash | Guest19677: I'm not familiar with nvidia's driver policy, sorry | 16:18 |
| Guest19677 | thanks for telling me where it is at least! | 16:19 |
| brainwash | test them 1 by 1, trial & error :) | 16:19 |
| Guest19677 | I'm reading one article that suggests that Mir works only with open source drivers. | 16:19 |
| brainwash | yes, that's right | 16:19 |
| === Jikai is now known as Jikan | ||
| Guest19677 | so I suppose that gives me an incentive to try nouveau | 16:19 |
| Guest19677 | how can i tell if I'm seeing Mir or not? | 16:20 |
| brainwash | Guest19677: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Mir | 16:21 |
| brainwash | I haven't tested it yet | 16:21 |
| Guest19677 | i guess i mean xmir. that's the thing on saucy | 16:22 |
| loa | how i can place launcher statically on my workspace? | 16:22 |
| Guest19677 | loa can you post a picture of what's happening | 16:23 |
| loa | Guest19677, i have unity-launcher at left side of workspace | 16:23 |
| loa | no i can't see it | 16:23 |
| loa | and all my icons are gone | 16:24 |
| loa | yes i will show you | 16:24 |
| Guest19677 | brainwash, if I want to restart the display to make the new drivers take effect, what's the command? something like services gdm restart? | 16:26 |
| loa | are your ubuntu looks like this? https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/25725476/screenshot.png | 16:27 |
| brainwash | Guest19677: or restart gdm | 16:27 |
| brainwash | Guest19677: service without s | 16:28 |
| Guest19677 | loa: you don't have a unity? | 16:28 |
| loa | want unity-laucnher how on this screenshot http://i1-news.softpedia-static.com/images/news-700/Ubuntu-12-04-LTS-Alpha-1-Screenshot-Tour.jpg | 16:28 |
| Guest19677 | brainwash, ok i'll try | 16:29 |
| loa | Guest19677, i don't know | 16:29 |
| BluesKaj | penguin42, very strange , but several video sites using flash work fine , except youtube does not ... makes me think something is seriously wrong at youtube | 16:39 |
| penguin42 | BluesKaj: Works fine for me | 16:40 |
| BluesKaj | so it's good to know my setup is ok | 16:40 |
| BluesKaj | even tried with vpn , in case there was a block of some sort | 16:44 |
| BluesKaj | penguin42, ok ,could you post a url that works on your setup please ? | 16:49 |
| penguin42 | BluesKaj: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DIMiW9yumI | 16:50 |
| brainwash | BluesKaj: http://productforums.google.com/forum/#!topic/youtube/ETfCgHO4MhU | 16:51 |
| penguin42 | haha | 16:52 |
| BluesKaj | 0k thanks , got it ...what pita | 17:00 |
| BluesKaj | it's still a hack | 17:01 |
| szymon_g | hi | 17:36 |
| szymon_g | how can i remove the feature of amazon-suggestions inside the dash? | 17:36 |
| szymon_g | is it just unity-lens-music or anything else? | 17:40 |
| bazhang | !info unity-lens-shopping | 17:43 |
| ubottu | Package unity-lens-shopping does not exist in saucy | 17:43 |
| szymon_g | indeed, it doesn't | 17:45 |
| szymon_g | i've removed unity-lens-music (which also removed -video) but i still see them (i.e. amazon's suggestions) in the dash | 17:45 |
| bazhang | that was the one you formerly removed, just checking if it still held/existed | 17:46 |
| bazhang | I just uncheck that option in system settings on 13.04, not tried 13.10 so cannot say, sorry | 17:47 |
| szymon_g | oh, so after logging-out the results from amazon will not be showed? | 17:48 |
| bazhang | I'll upgrade the next week or so, and then I could definitively say, but if you keep asking, say in a few hours, the regulars can tell you | 17:49 |
| penguin42 | hmm amazon stuff now appears to be in unity-webapps-common | 17:49 |
| bazhang | szymon_g, ^ | 17:50 |
| penguin42 | actually no | 17:50 |
| penguin42 | that's the thing for ordering/etc - I don't think that's the search | 17:51 |
| szymon_g | thanx penguin42 | 17:51 |
| szymon_g | (removed it anyway) | 17:52 |
| guestghost | hyello | 17:57 |
| guestghost | I'm having a problem installing this system. When I click the install icon in unity, it doesn't open. Can I try launching the same program in terminal for more output? | 17:58 |
| guestghost | is it "ubiquity" ? | 18:16 |
| TJ- | guestghost: Yes | 18:16 |
| guestghost | its not starting for me | 18:17 |
| TJ- | guestghost: Open a terminal and start it from there, you may get some clues from warning messages it prints | 18:21 |
| guestghost | TJ-, i tried that just now. it doesn't print anything. looking for a verbose mode | 18:22 |
| trism | guestghost: ubiquity --help; I think there is a debug mode with -d | 18:23 |
| TJ- | guestghost: OK, do "ls -latr /var/log/" and look for the install, upgrade, or ubiquity directory (I forget what it is called!) see if you can find log-files it has written | 18:23 |
| guestghost | ok I found them | 18:24 |
| TJ- | guestghost: Yay :) ... hopefully they'll give you a clue | 18:25 |
| guestghost | yeah, trying it out | 18:25 |
| guestghost | is gksu deprecated in saucy? | 18:26 |
| guestghost | Hmm, running gksu ubiquity didn't require a password, but it worked right away. Unlike clicking the icon in unity panel | 18:29 |
| trism | you don't need to run it with gksu | 18:30 |
| guestghost | trism, it wouldn't start otherwise, and the log gave me permission denied | 18:32 |
| guestghost | now "lzma" is running at 100 percent | 18:32 |
| guestghost | (ubiquity:20752): Pango-WARNING **: error opening config file '/root/.config/pango/pangorc': Permission denied | 18:32 |
| dmobley88 | why would phablet-bootstrap /home/(user)/fusion2/bootstrap delete stuff downloaded from the AOSP? | 19:24 |
| bibi_ | how can i install nvidia driver in xubuntu 13.10? please | 19:25 |
| k1l | bibi_: install nvidia-current | 19:30 |
| k1l | bibi_: and be aware, that 13.10 ist still not released. | 19:31 |
| bibi_ | i install beta | 19:31 |
| k1l | yes, beta doesnt mean final | 19:31 |
| bibi_ | and how i install nvidia curent | 19:32 |
| BluesKaj | sudo apt-get install nvidia-current | 19:33 |
| genii | sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install build-essential linux-source dkms linux-headers-generic && sudo apt-get install nvidia-current | 19:34 |
| bibi_ | W: Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/venerix/pkg/ubuntu/dists/saucy/main/source/Sources 404 Not Found | 19:36 |
| bibi_ | W: Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/venerix/pkg/ubuntu/dists/saucy/main/binary-i386/Packages 404 Not Found | 19:36 |
| bibi_ | E: Some index files failed to download. They have been ignored, or old ones used instead. | 19:36 |
| genii | bibi_: That ppa probably doesn't have Saucy packages yet since it's not in release. | 19:38 |
| genii | Hm. | 19:38 |
| === dmobley88 is now known as Anonynimity | ||
| Anonynimity | why would phablet-bootstrap /home/(user)/fusion2/bootstrap delete stuff downloaded from the AOSP? | 19:40 |
| genii | Anonynimity: That's a question for #ubuntu-touch | 19:40 |
| genii | Also, posting the same question in multiple channels really annoys the helpers. | 19:41 |
| Anonynimity | well, figured maybe there's someone in those channels (or other people) that may know the answer whom may not be in the other channel | 19:42 |
| genii | Anonynimity: Best bet is to ask in the most appropriate channel first, wait a while, if no answer there go the next most appropriate channel and say you already asked in #otherchannel first but does anyone here know... etc | 19:43 |
| Anonynimity | which I have done. | 19:44 |
| k1l | no, not really | 19:45 |
| Anonynimity | yes, really | 19:45 |
| k1l | just stick to the guidelines like every other user. thank you | 19:46 |
| k1l | !guidelines > Anonynimity | 19:46 |
| ubottu | Anonynimity, please see my private message | 19:46 |
| Anonynimity | I was cooking | 19:50 |
| Anonynimity | and under the guidelines, crossposting is not a crime | 19:50 |
| bazhang | !crosspost | Anonynimity | 19:51 |
| ubottu | Anonynimity: Please don't ask the same question in multiple Ubuntu channels at the same time. Many helpers are in more than one channel and it's not fair to them or the other people seeking support. | 19:51 |
| IdleOne | If your going to be strict about the interpretation of the guidelines then I must point out that neither #ubuntu or #ubuntu+1 are appropriate channels to ask about ubuntu touch. | 20:10 |
| IdleOne | you're* | 20:10 |
| pvh_sa | hey, since I rebooted earlier I've got 2 nm-applet indicators (one showing the traditional list, the other just a list of WiFi points). anyone else see this? | 21:23 |
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