[00:00] <reisio> AnAlien: if you're installing from it, you may as well try uefi first
[00:00] <AnAlien> Ok im trying uefi
[00:00] <AnAlien> Ok it worked
[00:00] <AnAlien> Im loading into Ubuntu now
[00:01] <mrrcp> happy dance
[00:01] <Dwarf> AnAlien: remember to take a screenshot of the advanced screen
[00:01] <AnAlien> Ok let me get this up on the laptop
[00:01] <AnAlien> Brb
[00:05] <loa> when files from /etc/cron.daily  runs?
[00:05] <AnAlien> ok
[00:05] <AnAlien> im here
[00:05] <Dwarf> Alright.
[00:05] <Travelian> Hello there.
[00:05] <loa> i understand that everyday, but when exactly
[00:05] <AnAlien> can i haz links to the photos sites again?
[00:05] <Travelian> I'm having some problems with youtube playback.
[00:05] <loa> looks like it is random or so?
[00:05] <Travelian> I have a GM45 mobile integrated graphic.
[00:06] <Travelian> I also use Chrome latest version.
[00:06] <Travelian> Yet I am not able to reproduce nicely a 480p on youtube.
[00:06] <AnAlien> dwarf the photo site?
[00:06] <Travelian> Hitting on stats it seems it accelerates on hardware, but decoding is on software.
[00:06] <Dwarf> http://imgur.com/
[00:06] <AnAlien> nvrmnd
[00:06] <Travelian> I also installed Intel's drivers for linux from here: https://01.org/linuxgraphics/downloads
[00:07] <Travelian> I am running Ubuntu 13.04.
[00:07] <AnAlien> ok signing in
[00:07] <AnAlien> http://i.imgur.com/nOq4DKv.png
[00:08] <AnAlien> http://i.imgur.com/bbCrXDy.png
[00:08] <Travelian> Any idea?
[00:08] <AnAlien> screne shot of two options
[00:08] <AnAlien> which one?
[00:09] <AnAlien> when i clicked the advanced thingy the world starter to end
[00:09] <AnAlien> started*
[00:09] <Dwarf> The sandisk is the USB drive you're using to install
[00:09] <AnAlien> ok
[00:09] <Dwarf> So use SDA 500GB ATA Hitachi
[00:09] <Dwarf> Choose advanced tho
[00:09] <AnAlien> wait how cmon there no work spaces?
[00:10] <AnAlien> does 13.04 have no work space switchers?
[00:10] <Dwarf> AnAlien: focus
[00:10] <AnAlien> ok works
[00:11] <Dwarf> Aight get me a screenshot of the advanced screen and i'll know if it's the one that I think it is
[00:11] <Polytonic> I'm on 12.04 LTS.  Is there any way to download a single, specific 13.xx package (i.e. upgrade the one that comes in the 12.04 repository)?
[00:11] <xyzone> Polytonic, odds are they won't work
[00:11] <reisio> Polytonic: odds are it will want many updated deps, but not necessarily
[00:12] <Polytonic> xyzone, they're just the OpenCL headers.  I need them for linking.
[00:12] <loadid_czech> Polytonic: maybe if you edit the sources.list to the 13.xx repositories and update & install it would install.  probably wouldn't work though
[00:12] <AnAlien> http://i.imgur.com/glhmvGK.png
[00:12] <AnAlien> http://i.imgur.com/wLfaECg.png
[00:14] <Polytonic> Hmmm.
[00:14] <TJ-> Polytonic: You can install isolated debian packages (.deb files) but you may hit what we call dependency-hell if it depends on newer versions of other installed packages, which in turn depend on other newer packages, etc.
[00:14] <Polytonic> TJ-, the package in question is here: http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=opencl-headers
[00:14] <Polytonic> It's literally just a bunch of headers.
[00:14] <Travelian> how do I make sure I'm using the correct video driver?
[00:14] <TJ-> Polytonic: Look at the precise-backports archive in case a later version is available there, or maybe investigate the package being available by a reputable PPA
[00:14] <Dwarf> Oh wow ubuntu's installer is a mess
[00:14] <AnAlien> i clcik ur link and install stuf?
[00:15] <AnAlien> before i do does ubuntu 13.04 have the 4 differnt workspaces?
[00:15] <AnAlien> cause thats one of the reasons i like ubuntu because of those 4 little workspaces
[00:15] <AnAlien> if it doesnt ima abort and install 12.04
[00:16] <Dwarf> AnAlien: You can always install MATE afterwards
[00:16] <AnAlien> ok
[00:16] <AnAlien> so i should install what from that link?
[00:16] <TJ-> Polytonic: You could just download the .deb then, from the archives by clicking on the "All" Architecture link
[00:16] <Dwarf> What link
[00:17] <AnAlien> http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=opencl-headers
[00:17] <Dwarf> that has absolutely nothing to do with you
[00:17] <AnAlien> oh
[00:17] <AnAlien> sry
[00:17] <Polytonic> Heh.
[00:17] <TJ-> AnAlien: Yes, it has the workspace switcher with 4 desktops
[00:17] <AnAlien> ok
[00:17] <sealbhach> Polytonic, you could try sudo dpkg -i --force-all *.deb to override all objections.
[00:17] <Polytonic> TJ-, I'll give that a shot.  I don't suppose there's a way to always pull in the latest then, is there?  (this is hooking into a Travis script)
[00:17] <Dwarf> Anyway, what you want to do is remove all partitions from SDA, then create one partition that is EXT4
[00:18] <AnAlien> ok
[00:18] <Dwarf> And install it on that newly created partition
[00:18] <Dwarf> Do not touch SDB
[00:18] <TJ-> Polytonic: safest not to, unless you want to write a small shell script to monitor the links to spot a newer version as a cron job!
[00:18] <AnAlien> wait how od i do that?
[00:19] <AnAlien> revert?
[00:19] <Polytonic> Hmm.  I found https://bugs.launchpad.net/precise-backports/+bug/924213 so somebody else clearly wants it back ported.  :/
[00:20] <Travelian> Anyone has any idea about the poor performance I got on youtube on Ubuntu 13.04?
[00:20] <Travelian> It's horribe.
[00:20] <Travelian> horrible.
[00:20] <Dwarf> AnAlien: Just select the partition and press the - button
[00:20] <Guest31254> hola
[00:20] <AnAlien> so im sellecting /dev/sda
[00:20] <AnAlien> and clicking revert
[00:21] <fellayaboy> im seeing some make files that have $(CC)  and $(RM)  where are these variables hidden..im looking at env but dont see this variables
[00:21] <Polytonic> Thanks for the suggestions TJ-, loadid_czech
[00:21] <AnAlien> so thats what im doing right?
[00:21] <Dwarf> revert?
[00:22] <isasha> hai
[00:22] <isasha> I'm having a bit of an issue with notify-osd
[00:22] <AnAlien> one sec
[00:22] <Dwarf> It's the button on the left
[00:22] <Dwarf> The minus button
[00:22] <Dwarf> iirc
[00:22] <isasha> I tried using notifyusdconfig to edit the timeout of notifications, but they are still 10 seconds long :/
[00:22] <AnAlien> ok
[00:23] <AnAlien> http://i.imgur.com/tyIb8AD.png
[00:23] <AnAlien> so thats not it
[00:23] <Dwarf> AnAlien: just click /dev/sda1-6 and remove them until all you have left is "free space"
[00:24] <AnAlien> sure im doing that
[00:25] <Dwarf> Yay
[00:25] <AnAlien> ok heres a screen shot
[00:25] <AnAlien> one sec
[00:25] <sealbhach> AnAlien: I strongly recommend having a separate  root / and /home partition. Very useful for upgrading later.
[00:26] <AnAlien> ok how i do that?
[00:26] <AnAlien> the screne shot just keeps saying loading
[00:26] <AnAlien> or pending
[00:27] <AnAlien> pending
[00:27] <AnAlien> it wont upload
[00:27] <sealbhach> AnAlien: you would need to think about how you want to allocate the space, research on Google a little
[00:28] <AnAlien> idk what that means
[00:28] <sealbhach> AnAlien: Don't worry, it's not essential, just a suggestion
[00:28] <Dwarf> sealbhach: I think it's better for him to get familiar with partitioning first before doing such things
[00:29] <mrrcp> AnAlien: how big is your hard drive?
[00:29] <AnAlien> 500 gb
[00:29] <AnAlien> at least it should be
[00:29] <AnAlien> this is an asus
[00:29] <Dwarf> It's 500GB
[00:30] <mrrcp> ok so put 50GB to your core and the other to your /home
[00:30] <mrrcp> or something like that
[00:31] <Dwarf> That'd be 50 GB for /, set the BOOT flag
[00:31] <Dwarf> Primary partition
[00:31] <AnAlien> ok screen shot up one sec
[00:31] <AnAlien> http://i.imgur.com/ykMNB7f.png
[00:31] <Dwarf> Alright click "free space"
[00:31] <AnAlien> ok
[00:32] <Dwarf> Then the + icon
[00:32] <AnAlien> ok
[00:32] <Dwarf> Then make a 50GB partition, select / as mount point
[00:32] <Dwarf> And make it a primary partition, and make it bootable
[00:32] <AnAlien> ok its in MBs
[00:32] <AnAlien> how many mbs?
[00:33] <mrrcp> o god
[00:33] <mrrcp> lol
[00:33] <Dwarf> 51200MB
[00:33] <Dwarf> = 50 GB
[00:33] <SchrodingersScat> AnAlien: wolfram alpha does all my math for me
[00:33] <Dwarf> 1024 * 50  = 51200
[00:33] <reisio> AnAlien: SchrodingersScat does all my math for me
[00:34] <AnAlien> ok one sec almost there
[00:35] <sealbhach> Format as ext4?
[00:35] <AnAlien> http://i.imgur.com/oCwanLl.png
[00:36] <Dwarf> yea EXT4 is good
[00:36] <AnAlien> now clcik ok?
[00:36] <Dwarf> Mount point has to be /
[00:36] <wilee-nilee> So I have a smart tv, I have minidlna working with home and, video, but can't get it to read an external usb HD, not sure the pathway.
[00:36] <Polytonic> TJ-, would maybe apt pinning work?  Or perhaps including -t in apt-get and specifying saucy?
[00:37] <AnAlien> there no mount point options
[00:37] <AnAlien> should i write it out?
[00:37] <zanga> Boa Noite
[00:37] <AnAlien> wait nvr mnd
[00:37] <hesaplayici> hi guys
[00:37] <AnAlien> ok i got the / after mount point
[00:37] <hesaplayici> where can i check which wifi driver currently im using ?
[00:38] <zanga> tenho que emcomtrar o jeito para ligar con lost
[00:38] <Dwarf> hesaplayici: lsmod
[00:38] <Dwarf> iirc
[00:38] <AnAlien> ok http://i.imgur.com/wv6t3k5.png
[00:38] <AnAlien> ok now?
[00:39] <AnAlien> Click ok*
[00:39] <Dwarf> Looks good, AnAlien, now create a second partition with the remaining space, and put /home as mountpoint.
[00:39] <AnAlien> which would be?
[00:40] <AnAlien> click free space +, then what?
[00:40] <Dwarf> Eh?
[00:40] <Dwarf> Just select "free space" again
[00:40] <hesaplayici> so can i ask which driver is good for broadcom wireless ?
[00:40] <AnAlien> ok i did
[00:40] <Dwarf> Then just click the + next to size
[00:40] <hesaplayici> sta one or the brcsmac one
[00:40] <Dwarf> until it won't go any further
[00:40] <reisio> hesaplayici: what's the device?
[00:41] <hesaplayici> bcm4313 - dell N5010
[00:41] <AnAlien> look:
[00:41] <Dwarf> type should be primary, location should be the beginning, use as should be EXT4, mount point should be /home
[00:41] <AnAlien> wait nvr mnd
[00:41] <fudus> AnAlien: I suppose just using the defaults is too easy? :P
[00:41] <AnAlien> it stuck at one
[00:41] <Dwarf> Eh
[00:42] <Dwarf> That shouldn't happen
[00:42] <Dwarf> Stinking ubuntu with it's ubuntu crap
[00:42] <mrrcp> hey where can i see my inboun logs?
[00:42] <mrrcp> inbound log
[00:42] <Dwarf> Give me the debian installer any day
[00:42] <AnAlien> screen shot
[00:42] <mrrcp> see who or what is accessing my server
[00:42] <reisio> hesaplayici: there's one called 'b43' :p
[00:42] <AnAlien> http://i.imgur.com/ghrY52n.png
[00:42] <reisio> which oddly doesn't support it, ha
[00:43] <hesaplayici> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx
[00:43] <hesaplayici> as i see, its not for my model
[00:43] <Dwarf> mrrcp: tcpdump -i eth0 -vvnn port 22 and not dst your_ip and not src your_ip -w ssh_traffic
[00:43] <AnAlien> wtf?
[00:43] <reisio> hesaplayici: wireless.kernel.org says wl or brcm80211
[00:43] <AnAlien> int the pic the + is filled in
[00:43] <fudus> http://askubuntu.com/questions/232049/wireless-problems-with-broadcom-bcm4313 help any?
[00:43] <AnAlien> on my pc its not
[00:43] <wilee-nilee>  So I have a smart tv, I have minidlna working with home and, video, but can't get it to read an external usb HD, not sure the pathway.
[00:44] <reisio> don't cross post
[00:44] <AnAlien> wait did i click the wrong free space?
[00:44] <Dwarf> AnAlien: Try putting 460800 and pressing the + button
[00:44] <Dwarf> Probably
[00:45] <Dwarf> You have one of 1MB (don't even ask me why), and one of 450~GB
[00:45] <hesaplayici> im totally noob, so how you guys sending these PM's ?
[00:45] <fudus> broadcom guy: this one has a green mark for it working, it might help http://askubuntu.com/questions/316072/broadcom-bcm4313-on-13-04
[00:46] <AnAlien> the one selected is the one i used http://i.imgur.com/lPN2qvt.png
[00:46] <AnAlien> clciked plus on*
[00:46] <Dwarf> Yea that's the 1MB one lol
[00:46] <hesaplayici> thanks reisio and fudus
[00:46] <Dwarf> Click the other one ;)
[00:46] <hesaplayici> i got the idea
[00:47] <AnAlien> ok
[00:47] <AnAlien> ok then what other options?
[00:47] <AnAlien> the same as the other?
[00:47] <Dwarf> Pretty much
[00:47] <Dwarf> But the mount point should be /home
[00:48] <fudus> AnAlien: may I ask why you don't use the default part plan?
[00:48] <AnAlien> so this is right? http://i.imgur.com/JNVlLfr.png
[00:48] <Dwarf> No, the mount point should be /home
[00:48] <fudus> it seems to be a blank HD so the defaults should work fine
[00:49] <AnAlien> ok
[00:49] <AnAlien> so this:
[00:49] <AnAlien> http://i.imgur.com/FX1RQnm.png
[00:50] <AnAlien> thats right?
[00:50] <Dwarf> I approve
[00:50] <AnAlien> ok clciked ok
[00:50] <cvtsx> breaking news USA military strikes in Libya and Somalia (special forces on the ground)
[00:50] <AnAlien> install now?
[00:50] <Dwarf> Alright, can you get me a last screenshot of the current window before moving on?
[00:50] <cvtsx> yes install
[00:51] <AnAlien> screen shotting
[00:51] <Dwarf> cvtsx: keep your offtopic out of here, and do not interfere
[00:51] <AnAlien> http://i.imgur.com/woQLLRP.png
[00:52] <Dwarf> Looks good, AnAlien
[00:52] <sealbhach> What about swap
[00:52] <AnAlien> clicking install.
[00:52] <Dwarf> Eh
[00:52] <AnAlien> what about swap?
[00:52] <Dwarf> No need for swap if you have 4GB+ RMA
[00:52] <Dwarf> RAM*
[00:52] <AnAlien> i have 4GB
[00:53] <sealbhach> LOL, that's good. Looking good AnAlien
[00:53] <Dwarf> No need for swap then
[00:53] <gulag2013> Any idea why i get Canonical at the end of my Duckduckgo search queries?
[00:53] <rypervenche> AnAlien: You want swap.
[00:53] <Dwarf> Nobody wants swap
[00:53] <AnAlien> why? whats that?
[00:53] <Dwarf> I have swap and I never use it.
[00:53] <pfifo> is there a way to force an app to use a certian pid? Id like my screen to run on pid 1000,2000,3000 etc so that I can reattach easily
[00:53] <sealbhach> You can have an app go nuts and fill up RAM I suppose.
[00:54] <Dwarf> That's a doomsday scenario
[00:54] <rypervenche> But a real scenario.
[00:54] <bwayne> swap is also used to hibernate, if you care for it.
[00:54] <AnAlien> what is swap?
[00:54] <Dwarf> If it fills up your RAM it will fill up your swap just as easily
[00:54] <pfifo> if you have an app thats filling up the ram then hopefully you dont have swap
[00:54] <rypervenche> You'll also want it for hibernation
[00:54] <AnAlien> can i install it latter if it turns out i need it?
[00:54] <bwayne> if you want to hibernate, then swap should probably be just as large as your RAM.
[00:55] <AnAlien> do want a link to my computer?
[00:55] <bwayne> AnAlien: yes. you'll have to create the partition and add it to fstab. not complicated, though. so don't let that scare you off.
[00:55] <rypervenche> AnAlien: Just make your swap 4G
[00:56] <AnAlien> ok so if i need it ill install it later ok?
[00:56] <bwayne> AnAlien: yes.
[00:57] <AnAlien> ok so here the laptop im using http://www.amazon.com/Asus-UX32A-R3502H-Ultrabook-Processor-Bluetooth/dp/B00BC7DRXC/ref=amtcd_B00863L2MI_B00BC7DRXC
[00:57] <MKCoin> What does indicator-application-serv handle in 12.04?
[00:57] <bwayne> AnAlien: it's all up to you, my friend. :)  some people don't hibernate their computers.
[00:57] <AnAlien> and i should click install thne?
[00:57] <AnAlien> i do
[00:57] <AnAlien> i close it alot
[00:57] <AnAlien> heres the *
[00:58] <AnAlien> anyway im click install now, now
[00:58] <AnAlien> ok?
[00:58] <bwayne> AnAlien: do you put your computer to sleep, in which the power stays on and lifting the lid pretty much brings the computer up instantaneously, or do you hibernate, where the computer powers off?
[00:58] <AnAlien> i close the lid
[00:58] <sealbhach> Hibernate is super, should have it; it's easier to create your swap partition now, just reduce your /home partition and create a new swap partition.
[00:58] <AnAlien> and open the lid
[00:58] <bwayne> AnAlien: like I said, you can always add it later. Go ahead and install. We'll be here to help. :)
[00:59] <AnAlien> ok thx guys u rock!
[00:59] <AnAlien> installing
[00:59] <AnAlien> error
[00:59] <sealbhach> ruh roh
[00:59] <fudus> go back and pick the default partition
[00:59] <fudus> plan
[00:59] <AnAlien> http://i.imgur.com/Pea38Wf.png
[00:59] <sealbhach> pfifo had a question
[01:00] <AnAlien> wait now its in stalling
[01:00] <AnAlien> huh
[01:01] <fudus> you're using uefi so you need to put a uefi boot partition
[01:01] <fudus> (which is set up by the default plan)
[01:01] <AnAlien> so i should click back?
[01:01] <AnAlien> im picking my laugage and layout not
[01:02] <AnAlien> now*
[01:02] <bwayne> AnAlien: yes. if this doesn't work, bc of the uefi boot partition, just choose default. it appears you want a separate /home, which can be done later.
[01:02] <AnAlien> so click back
[01:02] <AnAlien> and loading
[01:02] <AnAlien> and it wont let me go bakc anymore
[01:02] <AnAlien> its on date and time
[01:02] <AnAlien> and i cant go  back
[01:03] <AnAlien> ill just conintue
[01:03] <bwayne> AnAlien: just relax. :) everything will be ok.
[01:03] <Dwarf> bwayne: it currently has 6 windows partitions tho
[01:03]  * bwayne ponders SIX partitions.
[01:04] <AnAlien> huh?
[01:04] <fudus> http://i.imgur.com/Pea38Wf.png it has no other partitions?
[01:04] <AnAlien> what should i name it?
[01:04] <fudus> whatever you want to call it
[01:05] <AnAlien> ok im nameing it analien
[01:05] <AnAlien> installing
[01:05] <bwayne> Dwarf: from the screenshots, he's apparently using all of /dev/sda. Where are you getting 6 windows partitions?
[01:05] <fudus> http://i.imgur.com/oCwanLl.png that shows a blank disk too
[01:05] <Dwarf> bwayne: He removed them
[01:05] <Dwarf> altho it hasn't written the changes to disk yet
[01:06] <Dwarf> Altho I guess that if it's installing now then that's no longer a problem
[01:06] <bwayne> Dwarf: so it's inconsequential, yes?
[01:06] <Dwarf> Idk what that word means but seems reasonable yea
[01:06] <bwayne> Dwarf: we've gone nucular, as W might say. :)
[01:06] <fudus> he's committed now anyhow apparently
[01:06] <fudus> i hope he didn't want the stuff in windows :P
[01:07]  * bwayne pauses for a moment
[01:07] <fudus> or whatever used to be there
[01:07] <Dwarf> fudus: He didn't
[01:08] <Dwarf> It's a new laptop
[01:08] <bwayne> we'll everything will be fine. one way or another, it always is. :)
[01:08] <Dwarf> It's just data
[01:08] <Dwarf> oh god the flashbacks
[01:08] <Dwarf> my internship assignment
[01:08] <bwayne> You lived without it before; you can live without it again. he hee
[01:08] <Dwarf> :(
[01:09] <Dwarf> May it rest in peace
[01:09] <sealbhach> sic transit gloria mundi
[01:09] <bwayne> amen
[01:12] <Titanium> hi, how do I get DNS working on ubuntu
[01:12] <Titanium> adding the nameservers to resolv.conf does not work (i restarted network services)
[01:12] <fudus> i suppose it doesn't work in networkmanager either?
[01:13] <Titanium> I cannot use network manager
[01:13] <Titanium> because I cannot get DNS working so i cannot update or install software so i cannot continue workign on my video card problem :(
[01:13] <Dwarf> Titanium: nano /etc/resolv.conf
[01:13] <AnAlien> ok stuffs still installing
[01:13] <Dwarf> Put in: nameserver 8.8.8.8
[01:14] <Titanium> yes, I added nameserver 8.8.8.8 to a line without a #
[01:14] <Titanium> after that i did sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[01:14] <sealbhach> Add them like this:  prepend domain-name-servers x.x.x.x, y.y.y.y;
[01:16] <Dwarf> AnAlien his browser crashed
[01:16] <Dwarf> he'll be back in a sec
[01:16] <Titanium> thanks it works now
[01:16] <Titanium> is there any guide to troubleshooting graphics card issues?
[01:16] <fudus> what gpu do you have?
[01:16] <Titanium> it displays that screen where it lets you know the graphis cannot work
[01:17] <Titanium> W5000, but let me check lspci real quick
[01:17] <Dwarf> sealbhach: What's the difference between "domain-name-servers" and "nameserver"
[01:17] <Titanium> yeah w5000
[01:17] <Titanium> the problem was restartign the network ate my ip settings :(
[01:17] <sealbhach> No idea, I think prepend makes the difference, it tries them first
[01:18] <Titanium> not sure if the different line in resolv helped or not
[01:18] <Titanium> previously i would let it update as it installs, but it always hung
[01:19] <fudus> have you tried removing fglrx* and going back to defaults?
[01:19] <fudus> (sorry if too obvious)
[01:20] <Titanium> no, i never isntalle dit
[01:20] <Titanium> it should have the open source one by default right? (i am on 13.0.4)
[01:21] <fwaokda> whats the command to install the terminal app that comes with ubuntu?
[01:21] <Titanium> hat se is a command if you ahve nowhere to type it ;)
[01:21] <Titanium> what use is *
[01:22] <fudus> gnome-terminal
[01:22] <fudus> konsole if kubuntu
[01:22] <fwaokda> fudus: thanks
[01:23] <Titanium> By default Ubuntu will use the open source AMD or Radeon driver for cards manufactured by AMD. Some users however prefer the proprietary fglrx driver for various reasons.
[01:23] <Titanium> i never isntalled fglrx
[01:23] <fudus> try installing fglrx then?
[01:25] <fudus> or, look in /var/log/Xorg.0.log to see what the error is
[01:27] <pfifo> Titanium: is /etc/resolv.conf still a symlink? Delete it and start fresh
[01:27] <Titanium> it has an error, im researching
[01:27] <sealbhach> What happened AnAlien?
[01:30] <Titanium> is it supposed to take a bunch of work to get unity to show up, or should it 'just work' ?
[01:31] <pfifo> if you dont like unity try xubuntu or lubuntu
[01:32] <Titanium> i want a gui of some sort... i dont really care what it is
[01:32] <pfifo> lubuntu is very fast and lightweight
[01:32] <Titanium> is it normal to just fail and only do cli?
[01:32] <fudus> what is the errror in the log?
[01:32] <Titanium> failed to create screen resources
[01:32] <fudus> pfifo: xorg itself is failing for him
[01:32] <fudus> the shell doesn't affect
[01:33] <AnAlien> issuses
[01:33] <AnAlien> stuff f***ed up
[01:33] <Titanium> i have reinstalled like 10 times it always does this :(
[01:33] <AnAlien> what i did is restarted, cause it said too
[01:33] <fudus> Titanium: try installing fglrx-updates and see if that works?
[01:34] <AnAlien> but i forgot to remove the usb drive
[01:34] <AnAlien> so waht happened is i clicked install ubuntu, then i relised i didnt remove the usb drive
[01:34] <AnAlien> so i shut down
[01:34] <Titanium> shoudL I be doing sudo apt-get install fglrx-updates?
[01:34] <Titanium> it cannot find it
[01:34] <AnAlien> and then i restarted
[01:35] <AnAlien> but ubuntu wasnt a boot option
[01:35] <Titanium> i unmounted the virtual media before rebooting
[01:35] <Titanium> ywah I had to repair grub every tiem I installe
[01:35] <pfifo> AnAlien: sounds like you installed grub onto the USB drive
[01:35] <Titanium> i dont think ubuntu installs grub even if you install to MBR formatted disks
[01:35] <Titanium> at least it doesnt do it right
[01:35] <AnAlien> whats that mean pfifo
[01:36] <AnAlien> ?
[01:36] <pfifo> you put grub into the MBR of the usb disk instead of the MBR of your internal disk
[01:36] <AnAlien> ok
[01:36] <AnAlien> whats the website for the screne shot thingy?
[01:36] <AnAlien> dwarf
[01:37] <Dwarf> http://imgur.com/
[01:37] <AnAlien> thx
[01:37] <AnAlien> ill book mark once i et this setup
[01:38] <AnAlien> loading
[01:38] <AnAlien> http://i.imgur.com/DwpcP5o.png
[01:39] <AnAlien> so what do i do?
[01:39] <Titanium> i really hope i can get this working, windows does not support my computer, and BSD jsut plain wont install :(
[01:40] <pfifo> AnAlien: No
[01:40] <AnAlien> ok
[01:41] <AnAlien> clicked no
[01:41] <AnAlien> thats what i though
[01:41] <AnAlien> thought*
[01:41] <pfifo> AnAlien: didnt you just get finished installing?
[01:41] <AnAlien> it didnt work
[01:41] <AnAlien> i explained above
[01:42] <AnAlien> huh?
[01:42] <pfifo> AnAlien: all you have todo is fix your boot loader
[01:42] <AnAlien> http://i.imgur.com/Of0qbfR.png
[01:42] <AnAlien> how i do that?
[01:43] <AnAlien> what aye do?
[01:44] <pfifo> !grub | AnAlien  check the grub restore link
[01:46] <boern> hey guys i have a problem.. i just installed ubuntu and i came from windows 8.. i have 1 SSD  for system and one HDD for data.. but i cant access my HDD now.. there is an error.. can you help me with this? http://pastebin.com/paE5aRjM
[01:47] <pfifo> boern: get windows to fix you filesystem
[01:47] <AnAlien> im doing this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[01:48] <boern> but i dont have windows anymore, is there no way to do this in ubuntu?
[01:48] <crass> does anyone have issues running pidgin in raring?
[01:48] <pfifo> boern: mount with the read only flag, backup your data, and then format the partition to something linuxish
[01:48] <crass> the gui won't show up for me
[01:49] <crass> I think its minimized in the tray, but the tray icon is not there
[01:49] <AnAlien> scanning system with boot repair
[01:49] <pfifo> crass: start it from the cli, this might give a useful error message
[01:49] <AnAlien> GPT detected. Please create a BIOS-Boot partition (>1MB, unformatted filesystem, bios_grub flag). This can be performed via tools such as Gparted. Then try again.
[01:49] <boern> so i should install windows again??
[01:49] <crass> pfifo: I am, and with the debugging on
[01:49] <crass> (20:45:55) docklet: failed to embed within timeout
[01:49] <crass> (20:45:55) gtkblist: removed visibility manager: 1
[01:50] <crass> I'm guessing that's it trying to put itself in the dock
[01:50] <pfifo> AnAlien: do you use uEFI instead of BIOS
[01:50] <crass> maybe unity's dock protocol changed
[01:50] <AnAlien> yes
[01:50] <AnAlien> UEFI
[01:50] <AnAlien> should i use bios?
[01:50] <crass> this was working in precise
[01:50] <AnAlien> does it matter?
[01:51] <pfifo> AnAlien: sorry, I cant help you any longer
[01:51] <AnAlien> what should i do?
[01:51] <pfifo> boern: is there anything important on that drive?
[01:51] <Tex_Nick> !enter | AnAlien
[01:52] <boern> not really
[01:52] <boern> my music collection is on my phone as well
[01:52] <comodo_dragon> !ubuntu
[01:52] <pfifo> boern: format to ext2/4 and start fresh
[01:53] <AnAlien> ok sorry i didnt know that  Ubottu
[01:53] <boern> whats the best why to format??
[01:54] <pfifo> boern: use gparted if you like a gui... otherwise, 'mkfs.ext4' from the command line
[01:54] <boern> so ext4 is the right way?
[01:55] <pfifo> boern: linux doesnt like windows ntfs format. so using ext is less error prone, and its faster
[01:55] <boern> hmm but there are some videos i d like to save from this drive i realize.. is there no way to access the drive?
[01:56] <pfifo> boern: yes, like I mentioned, you can mount the drive -->READ ONLY<-- and make a back up
[01:56] <boern> but i have to install windows for this right?
[01:56] <pfifo> i stress the read only part
[01:56] <pfifo> boern: no
[01:57] <boern> oh.. sorry for the stupid question but how do i mount it as REAL ONLY? :$
[01:58] <pfifo> boern: how do you mount it now?
[01:58] <boern> file manager --> "Devices"
[01:59] <boern> and then i click on my drive
[01:59] <AnAlien> guys what should i do?
[02:00] <pfifo> AnAlien: try asking your question again.
[02:00] <pfifo> !details | alien
[02:00] <AnAlien> GPT detected. Please create a BIOS-Boot partition (>1MB, unformatted filesystem, bios_grub flag). This can be performed via tools such as Gparted. Then try again.
[02:00] <boern> this is where the error appears
[02:01] <Ownix> I created a user for sabnzbdplus using useradd -r sabnzbd, I then added "sabnzbd" under USER in /etc/default/sabnzbdplus and when I try to start the service using /etc/init.d/sabnzbdplus start it fails with this error * Starting SABnzbd+ binary newsgrabber
[02:01] <Ownix>    ...fail!
[02:01] <pfifo> boern: not sure if that supports using mount options, you can mount it from the command line like so 'sudo mount -o ro /dev/sdXY /mnt' where XY is the drives letter and number
[02:01] <Ownix> I'm fairly sure it's due to that user but I'm not sure what else this thing wants me to do
[02:02] <AnAlien> how do i do that? I figured that i had to reformat something then this happened: http://i.imgur.com/f1AhtC7.png
[02:02] <boern> oh ok thank you :))
[02:04] <boern> ok i did that and now there is no drive anymore
[02:04] <boern> do i have to reboot?
[02:04] <pfifo> boern: the data should be in /mnt
[02:04] <ig_> I have a friend who just installed 13.10 but now wants to know whether it's the 64bit or 32bit version...is there a way to tell that?
[02:04] <pfifo> ig_: 'uname -a'
[02:05] <cfhowlett> ig_, uname -a
[02:05] <boern> ah i see! but how can i open this in my file manger?
[02:05] <boern> manager*
[02:06] <pfifo> boern: tell the file manger to goto filesystem, and click on /mnt
[02:06] <ig_> I don't see anything that says 64bit...does that mean it's 32bit?
[02:06] <pfifo> ig_: i686 = 32bit x86_64 = 64bit
[02:06] <ig_> i686, so it's 32bit
[02:06] <ig_> ok, thanks
[02:07] <AnAlien> Could someone help me?
[02:09] <pfifo> AnAlien: dosent look like anyone knows, maybe try installing again, or wait until a uEFI user comes in to offer help
[02:09] <AnAlien> ok
[02:09] <Ben64> AnAlien: do what the error message said
[02:09] <AnAlien> i dont know how to do what the erroe mesage said
[02:09] <boern> oh thank you very much!
[02:10] <Ben64> use gparted... make an unformatted partition have the bios_grub flag
[02:10] <bambanx> guys can i install ubuntu from windows? i mean without a cd , with a windows installer or some, and able to boot of windows or ubuntu
[02:11] <AnAlien> Quote from before "how do i do that? I figured that i had to reformat something then this happened: http://i.imgur.com/f1AhtC7.png" I wasgoing to do what the erroe messages said but the message got me connfused
[02:11] <Dr_Willis> bambanx:  some dirty tricks with virtualbox accessing a real physical drive.. Might be able to.
[02:11] <Ben64> see that 1MB area? make a partition there with the bios_grub flag
[02:11] <Dr_Willis> bambanx:  but much easier to just go get a 4gb usb flash and install from that
[02:12] <cfhowlett> bambanx, if you can download the ubuntu ISO to windows, you can then install it in virtualbox quite easily
[02:12] <boern> damn im so much happier with ubuntu :3
[02:12] <bambanx> i have a external hard drive , it have a information i dont wanna delete , can i put a installer there and dont delete my data?
[02:12] <AnAlien> how do i use gparted? @ ben man
[02:12] <bambanx> i dont wanna use virtualization, i want double boot
[02:12] <Dr_Willis> bambanx:  if you are worried about some data.. back it up. thats a golden rule.
[02:12] <Ben64> AnAlien: come on, i'm not going to walk you through every mouse click
[02:12] <cfhowlett> bambanx, ??? so set up a dual boot.  make a USB, install
[02:13] <Dr_Willis> bambanx:  you use vbox and a iso to DO a install to a real physical disk
[02:13] <Dr_Willis> bambanx:  but that will be a lot of work and other potential issues.
[02:14] <bambanx> ok i think i will use the old way using a dvd
[02:14] <Dr_Willis> bambanx:  usb flash is much easier
[02:14] <pfifo> bambanx: create a persistant USB install, and take ubuntu with you as you go
[02:14] <Dr_Willis> and faster i find.
[02:14] <bambanx> i am not sure if i have one here, the only i have is a external hard drive with a LOT of data
[02:15] <Dr_Willis> bambanx:  if you dont want to risk it then dont.. It should work. but  always have backups
[02:15] <AnAlien> Well im sorry i dont know how to use this stuff. ive never used gparted bfore
[02:15] <bambanx> Dr_Willis, i found a pen drive is of 16 gigas is ok?
[02:15] <Dr_Willis> bambanx:  you can even boot ubuntu ISO files from some rooted android phones with teh right app
[02:15] <Ben64> AnAlien: its very easy to use, i suggest opening it
[02:15] <Dr_Willis> bambanx:  you can do a full instgall to 16gbs.. :) 4gb would be good for just installing
[02:15] <AnAlien> i did
[02:15] <pfifo> is there a way to force an app to use a certian pid? Id like my screen to run on pid 1000,2000,3000 etc so that I can reattach easily
[02:16] <bambanx> Dr_Willis, is a special file for use with usb ?
[02:16] <Ben64> pfifo: you run multiple screens?
[02:16] <Dr_Willis> bambanx:  huh? You just use some of the many tools out there to  image/put/burn the iso to the usb - making it a live-usb.
[02:16] <pfifo> Ben64: yes, cant figure out how to run one as root and one as pfifo and one as...
[02:16] <AnAlien> i have three options and i dont which one it is, but im assuming it the largest one.
[02:16] <n4rcob0y> arch linux
[02:16] <Dr_Willis> bambanx:  the pendrivelinux site has several
[02:17] <amunoz> Hi, Can someone who is using gnome 3.10 and the gnome-tweak-tool reproduce this bug? https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1010509
[02:17] <Dr_Willis> bambanx:  with 16gb  You could put several differnt disrtos on that pendrive to play with.
[02:17] <n4rcob0y> why not just install arch linux
[02:18] <bambanx> Dr_Willis, i will l.ove to use my phone for install it too
[02:18] <Ben64> n4rcob0y: this is #ubuntu , arch support and discussion elsewhere
[02:18] <bambanx> Dr_Willis, u have a cool link for do that?
[02:18] <bazhang> n4rcob0y, thats not helpful
[02:18] <cfhowlett> n4rcob0y, wrong channel.  go to arch
[02:18] <Dr_Willis> bambanx:  with a rooted phone you can setuop where the phone boots a PC from an iso file stored on the phone.
[02:18] <cfhowlett> !behelpful|n4rcob0y,
[02:18] <pfifo> Ben64: so, how do I start an app with the pid of my choosing?
[02:19] <Ben64> pfifo: pretty sure thats not possible
[02:20] <AnAlien> well im leaving
[02:21] <bezaban> pfifo: kernel handles pid of processes.  You can clone it with fork(), but this is basically not a way to identify processes, if you do, write the pid to a temporary or lock file
[02:22] <pfifo> bezaban: I can get a list of the pid's but its easier to remember a number like 5000 over 5622
[02:22] <genii> pfifo: If you write an init.d startup script for it, you can specify it there.
[02:22] <Dr_Willis> why do you need the pid?
[02:23] <pfifo> Dr_Willis: i run this 'screen -ra <pid>'
[02:23] <bezaban> pfifo: it is, but you should either know the name of the process or if you write it to a file you can get the info from there easily
[02:23] <Dr_Willis> screen has some list option i recall
[02:24] <Dr_Willis> you got dozens of screen sessions going or somthing weird? ;)
[02:24] <pfifo> Dr_Willis: yes, im trying toNOT use this list, i want to just know screen with pid 3000 is irc and such, and screen with 4000 is minecraft and stuff, and 5000 is emacs and gcc
[02:25] <bezaban> not how it works
[02:25] <Dr_Willis> that seems to sort of defeate part of the purpose of screen. having 1 screen and several terminals in it.
[02:25] <Dr_Willis> cant screen sessions get named some how?
[02:26] <Dr_Willis> or am i think ing of tmux
[02:26] <pfifo> Dr_Willis: I know, I could put them all in the same screen session, but it gets... for lack of a better word... cluttered
[02:26] <vemacs> personal opinion, but tmux is.. superior
[02:26] <vemacs> doesn't randomly hang on long uptime periods
[02:26] <vemacs> somehow uses much less CPU
[02:26] <Dr_Willis> been using tmux here latelyu also
[02:26] <bezaban> if you have them in screen can't you just kill the pane? or is that tmux only?
[02:26] <pfifo> !info tmux
[02:26] <Dr_Willis> but i dont use 1/100th of its fetures
[02:26] <vemacs> no concept of 'panes' in screen
[02:27] <bezaban> right
[02:27] <pfifo> im going to have to try this tmux, i hate screen
[02:27] <Dr_Willis> i saw anoter multiplexer the other day,  vlct or somthing
[02:27] <bezaban> tmux is fantastic
[02:27] <Dr_Willis> byou is tmux with a friendlier front end also
[02:29] <bezaban> I used screen for a while
[02:29] <bezaban> but tmux is what made me utilize it for real
[02:29] <bezaban> I'm probably just 'stupid' though
[02:29] <bambanx> Dr_Willis, this way is good http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/create-a-usb-stick-on-windows ?
[02:29] <zexcriz> pandaroot-gama_, hey are you there ? reply me it's urgent
[02:30] <Dr_Willis> err. what was that other one, screen, tmux, byobu, 'twin *discontinued*' and i saw another the other day
[02:30] <Dr_Willis> bambanx:  i use the pendrivelinux tools. theres dozens of tools out that can do it.. try them all
[02:30] <bambanx> Dr_Willis, thanks for your help men
[02:30] <pfifo> choosing my own pid would allow this as well, 'ssh -XC pfifo.net 'screen -ra 3000'"
[02:30] <Dr_Willis> !info dvtm
[02:31] <Dr_Willis> there we go..
[02:31] <Dr_Willis> dvtm is sort of nifty
[02:31] <Dr_Willis> expecially on a framebuffer console with a huge # of characers/lines/rows
[02:31] <bezaban> I'll have to check it out, but tmux is serving all myneeds atm
[02:32] <bezaban> mostly use it in remote sessions
[02:32] <Dr_Willis> I really really liked 'twin' for a long time. but i think its totally dead these days
[02:32] <pfifo> these all let me detatch, so I can log off ssh, turn off my home computer, and then log back in later and continue my work?
[02:32] <bezaban> they don't persist reboots on the machine you're running them on
[02:33] <bezaban> but remotely yes
[02:33] <Dr_Willis> pfifo:  tmux,byou,screen. yes..
[02:33] <pfifo> bezaban: no, dont need that, all remote
[02:33] <Dr_Willis> not sure about dvtm  ;)
[02:33] <pfifo> which one is better for emacs? emacs is why I hate screen
[02:34] <Dr_Willis> im suprised emacs doent hve its own identical feature to do what screen does. ;)
[02:34] <pfifo> Dr_Willis: I think it does
[02:34] <Dr_Willis> i would not be suprised.
[02:34] <Dr_Willis> EmacsOS  ;)
[02:36] <pfifo> Im not that good at emacs though, I dont use most of its crap
[02:36] <Dr_Willis> ive toyed with emacs over the years.. even on my amiga ages ago..
[02:36] <Dr_Willis> but most f the time for my editing. i use vim, or geany
[02:37] <Dr_Willis> i dont do a lot of codeing. ;) so it dosent matter a lot to me
[02:37] <pfifo> i love geany... im prejudice aginst vim cause I had to abort a gentoo install due to vim popping up and not being able to get out of it... hated it ever since
[02:38] <Dr_Willis> due to you not knowing the basics of vim? ;)
[02:38] <DuncanNZ> pfifo: I always used to use geany but I've switched to vim now and could never go back
[02:38]  * Dr_Willis recalls how many times people ask in here how come ^whatever dosent work in nano/pico/whatever ;) because they are using the ^ key... not ctrl
[02:38] <pfifo> Dr_Willis: exactly
[02:39] <Dr_Willis> vi i worth knowing the basics of. becuase often its the only text editor you may have on some dieing/recovery/oddball system
[02:39] <Dr_Willis> and its not that hard to learn
[02:39] <Dr_Willis> the whole idea of 'modes' just seems to confuse people
[02:39] <pfifo> i agree, i know vi now, have it on my phone
[02:40] <Dr_Willis> had a guy couldent understand vi modes, edit, insert, whatever... untill i pointed out to him that his everquest game did basically the same thing. ;) you had to go into 'hail' mode to talk to people, chat mode to chat and so forth. ;)
[02:40] <Dr_Willis> instead of in move/attack mode. ;) by default
[02:41] <pfifo> vi has a move/attack mode?
[02:41] <Dr_Willis> only when emacs is also running
[02:41] <Dr_Willis> ;P
[02:41] <pfifo> crap, weve gotten way off topic here
[02:41] <Dr_Willis> !info psdoom
[02:42] <javanic> hello all
[02:43] <javanic> anyone know what version of ubuntu would run best on a laptop with a 1.5gig processor and 512 of ram? trying to run 13.04 seems kinda slow
[02:43] <cfhowlett> javanic, xubuntu and lubuntu are optimized for low spec/older devices like yours
[02:43] <Dr_Willis> javanic:  lubuntu is the lightest full featured desktop. xubuntu is a close second.
[02:43] <Dr_Willis> xubuntu is very decent in a lot of ways
[02:44] <Dr_Willis> its trival to install both and try them both out
[02:44] <javanic> what about functionality? xubuntu ok there?
[02:44] <cfhowlett> javanic, xubuntu is the basis of UbuntuStudio.  Functionality meaning ... what?
[02:44] <Dr_Willis> they both cover the basics of a desktop
[02:44] <pfifo> javanic: there all "ubuntu" so to speek
[02:44] <MACscr> why would a system that has a static ip setup for eth1 all of a sudden switch to a dhcp address?
[02:45] <xirre> top -p PID -b -n1 | grep "PID" | awk '{print $9}' Seems to be giving similar CPU usage when running it 10 times for 10 different PIDs within 5 seconds. Why?
[02:45] <javanic> if i was to upgrade to 1.5gig of ram would 13.04 run sufficiently?
[02:46] <MACscr> javanic: if you have that low of ram, your cpu and video card is probably pretty old
[02:46] <MACscr> are*
[02:46] <cfhowlett> javanic, sounds like you've got an older device?  suggest you consider running Long Term Support version 12.04 until the next LTS comes out; 14.04
[02:46] <Dr_Willis> more ram is always good. and i bet it would be a cheap upgrade for  the imporovement
[02:46] <pfifo> javanic: id say add a video card, unity is heavy on graphics, hence the slowness
[02:47] <MACscr> unity is very heavy on graphics. Sucks how inefficient it is
[02:47] <cfhowlett> MACscr, it does what it's designed to do.  unrealistic to expect that all devices can handle it.
[02:48] <javanic> so upgrade ram and run 12.04.. sounds like the best option? i don't need anything super fast.. it's just going to be used for web browsing and video mostly
[02:48] <genii> javanic: You could also try in unity2d
[02:48] <pfifo> javanic: then drop ubuntu and install lubuntu, its perfect for your use case
[02:49] <MACscr> though ive found 13.04 to be pretty slow with any older hardware, running unity or any other alternative
[02:49] <cfhowlett> javanic, added ram almost always justifies the ROI
[02:49] <MACscr> cfhowlett: depends on the use and how much is already there
[02:49] <MACscr> so you cant just make a blanket statement like that
[02:49] <cfhowlett> MACscr, true
[02:49] <javanic> it currently has 512 of ram and a 1.5g processor
[02:50] <MACscr> javanic: notebook?
[02:50] <javanic> its a dell insprion 1300... not even mine lol
[02:50] <javanic> yes
 it's a notebook yes
[02:50] <pfifo> cfhowlett: i can put my 2 1G sticks in this computer along side 2 of my 512's but it runs slower like that, better just to have the 4 512s
[02:51] <Ari-Yang> javanic: if it's a notebook with limited speed, perhaps use lubuntu?
[02:51] <Ari-Yang> !lubuntu
[02:51] <Ari-Yang> javanic: or switch over to a different DE?
[02:51] <micahf> hey i'm really confused about multitouch
[02:51] <MACscr> pfifo: power wise, its just better to run the 1gb sticks without the 512's
[02:51] <high_fiver> how would I reverse this - http://paste.ubuntu.com/6199130/
[02:51] <micahf> why is it that 3-finger gestures work but not two finger gestures?
[02:52] <micahf> i read the wiki page "Multitouch", which said to type "synclient"
[02:52] <boern> i made my HDD READ only with "sudo mount -o ro /dev/sdb1 /mnt".. whats the command for make it write able again?
[02:52] <cfhowlett> javanic, try this: install say xubuntu.  to add/test lxde (lubuntu desktop environment), you install lxde and switch over.  if you like that flavor instead, get lubuntu.  free to try, free to test, free to use
[02:52] <boern> instead of ro something.. but i dont know what
[02:53] <micahf> synclient says "couldn't find synaptics properties"
[02:53] <pfifo> MACscr: i dont pay for the electric
[02:53] <javanic> ok.. xubuntu it's gonna be i think. thanks everyone for your help! much appreciated
[02:53] <cfhowlett> javanic, have fun, be safe
[02:53] <bwayne> boern: unmount it and leave off the '-o ro' ?
[02:53] <Ari-Yang> javanic: lubuntu is lighter than xubuntu I think
[02:53] <MACscr> pfifo: congrats? my point is still correct
[02:54] <javanic> i bid a good evening to all!
[02:54] <boern> is the /mnt essential??
[02:54] <Ari-Yang> ............I don't think he saw my message
[02:54] <Ari-Yang> :|
[02:54] <pfifo> boern: i think this will work 'mount -o remount,rw /mnt' but again, the disk has errors and that likel prevents it from mounting rw
[02:54] <bwayne> boern: well, you have to mount it somewhere. :)
[02:55] <boern> but i want it to show up in my devices section^^
[02:55] <boern> with /mnt its not there x)
[02:55] <boern> and not in my unity lauchner
[02:55] <micahf> how can 3-finger multitouch work without synaptics?
[02:56] <bwayne> boern: i'm sorry. i think i jumped in mid-conversation. i'm a little confused now.
[02:56] <pfifo> boern: you really need to fix that filesystem, continuing that way your going is just going to cause headaches
[02:56] <boern> i already format it to ext4..
[02:56] <pfifo> bwayne: its an ntfs filesystem with errors, and no longer has a windows install to fix it
[02:57] <boern> but the READ ONLY was still there^^
[02:57] <pfifo> boern: that sounds bad... you normally have to unmount filesystems before formatting
[02:59] <pfifo> boern: 'sudo umount /mnt' and see if it shows up in your devices
[02:59] <buu> Is there anyway to tweak the 'disable track pad while typing' setting?
[03:02] <boern> my problem is, that i cant put any data on my drive..
[03:02] <boern> maby ext4 is the wrong file system?
[03:03] <pfifo> boern: can you pastebin the output of 'mount && sudo fdisk -l'
[03:04] <boern> http://pastebin.com/97jS3UJH
[03:06] <Hundred> does Android and Windows 8 OS use standby mode or something, which is why you can use it instantly in a push of a button, does Ubuntu have a similar feature?
[03:06] <pfifo> boern: are we talking about /dev/sdb1 here?
[03:06] <pfifo> Hundred: yes, sleep or suspend
[03:07] <cfhowlett> buu, settings>mouse and touchpad > behavior IIRC
[03:07] <boern> year but thats the output.. this is my SSD i realize.. how can i get it to my HDD?
[03:08] <boern> but there are both
[03:08] <boern> Disk /dev/sdb: 1000.2 GB, 1000204886016 bytes
[03:08] <boern> thats my HDD
[03:08] <boern> the large one
[03:08] <grimeton> boern: what's the error message?
[03:09] <pfifo> boern: everything looks ok as far as formatting is concerend
[03:09] <grimeton> boern: looks like you don't have the permissions to write!?
[03:09] <boern> but i already did "sudo mount -o remount,rw /media/boern"
[03:09] <grimeton> boern: please paste ls -al /media
[03:10] <pfifo> boern: ok i see, you just need to change the permissions
[03:11] <boern> http://pastebin.com/7xdTSd3j
[03:11] <boern> but i already dide
[03:11] <boern> did
[03:11] <grimeton> boern: chown boern:users /media/boern/
[03:11] <grimeton> and chmod 775 /media/boern
[03:11] <grimeton> then try again
[03:11] <pfifo> boern: I would create a folder in /media/boern and set permissions there, then symlink it in my home folder, then save all my data in it
[03:12] <pfifo> boern: have you considered mounting this partiton on /home
[03:13] <boern> @<grimeton>
[03:13] <boern> thanks
[03:13] <boern> it worked :)
[03:13] <pfifo> boern: if I were you I would use the ssd as / and the hdd as /home and getting rid of swap on the sdd
[03:13] <Titanium> Dwarf thanks for help with my ubuntu install, i installed the driver from amd's website and it worked
[03:14] <Titanium> the isntructions here are crap:
[03:14] <Titanium> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[03:14] <boern> thank you 2 for help :)
[03:15] <boern> ext4 is really faster.. i had 80MB/s on NTFS and now on ext4 120MB/s
[03:15] <pfifo> boern: the ntfs driver for linux leaves alot to be desired.
[03:17] <pfifo> lol i guess we now know exactly how much it left to be desired... 40mb/s
[03:17] <boern> i see..^^
[03:18] <pfifo> boern: are you new to linux?
[03:19] <boern> not really.. i have used it before .. but im no expert.. just an average user^^
[03:20]  * bwayne wonders how AnAlien's install is going.
[03:20] <boern> switched to windows 8 because of some games.. but windows makes me upset :S
[03:21] <pfifo> boern: have you thought about mounting the hdd on /home? this has some advantages and dis advantages, on one hand /home being on the ssd will be fast... but if you use the hdd for /home it will allow you to store all your stuff in your home folder, and when you reinstall ubuntu, you can simply wipe the sdd, and leave all your data on the hdd... all the settings in your home folder will migrate to your new install as well
[03:23] <bwayne> wouldn't have / on the sdd make ubuntu much faster as well?
[03:23] <bwayne> *ssd
[03:23] <pfifo> boern: also, I dont recommend having swap on the ssd, your ruining your disk if your using alot of swap
[03:24] <bwayne> boern: pfifo has an excellent point there. you definitely don't want swap on you ssd.
[03:24] <boern> sounds interesting.. but the swap was created automatically
[03:25] <bwayne> boern: you can move it easily. it's something that should be considered for the health of you ssd.
[03:25] <boern> a friend told me to change something in FSTAB to keep the ssd health
[03:26] <bwayne> !ssd
[03:26] <bwayne> boern: yes. there are a number of things one can do.
[03:27] <pfifo> boern: you want to comment out the line in fstab that mounts the swap partition, and then use gparted to delete the partiton. you likely dont need swap but if you do, you can get gparted to create a swap partition on your hdd... or use a swap file
[03:28] <boern> http://www7.pic-upload.de/06.10.13/yd8d5ms8jxy.png
[03:28] <wfitzwater> bye
[03:28] <boern> this is from an old ubuntu installation i had
[03:29] <boern> its not from my current system
[03:29] <boern> a friend told me, thats good for the SSD
[03:31] <bwayne> boern: the arch wiki is a good resource --> https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Solid_State_Drives
[03:31] <boern> but i think i will leave the ssd on /home because of the speed.. i dont think that i will do a reinstall of ubuntu.. i put my data on my HDD anyways
[03:31] <boern> nice
[03:32] <boern> should i do that fstab again?
[03:32] <pfifo> boern: https://wiki.debian.org/SSDOptimization#Mounting_SSD_filesystems
[03:32] <micahf> why is it that when i run synclient, i get "Couldn't find synaptics properties. No synaptics driver loaded?", but three and four finger gestures work?
[03:32] <bitbyte> any of you guys know how to retrieve the last 10 previous public ups from one interface ?
[03:32] <bwayne> boern: yes. you should do all that you can.
[03:33] <boern> and why  shouldnt i have swap on my SSD? i thought a swap partition is essential?
[03:34] <pfifo> boern: all the disk access will reduce the lifetime of your drive... if you want a swap, put it on the cheaper hdd
[03:35] <boern> i dont know if i need a swap.. ubuntu made it .. can i delete it without any problems??
[03:35] <pfifo> boern: swap is not essential, in fact, I dont reccommend having one at all
[03:35] <boern> i have 8 GB of ram
[03:35] <boern> so can i just delete the swap??
[03:35] <bwayne> you may want swap if you suspend to disk
[03:36] <pfifo> bwayne: ubuntu has disable hibernation... and its not needed for suspend
[03:36] <bwayne> pfifo: disabled hibernation? interesting. happen to know why?
[03:37] <pfifo> boern: you can delete the partition yes... you should also remove or comment the entry in fstab to prevent a warning from popping up at boot time
[03:37] <pfifo> bwayne: too many problems
[03:38] <boern> how do i delete the swap partition with gparted??
[03:38] <bwayne> pfifo: ah yes. i remember reading about the many issues. now that i think about it, i think that was the main push for fast boot time. fast boot, no need for suspend.
[03:38] <boern> because i cant modify my SSD
[03:38] <boern> its all grey#
[03:38] <pfifo> boern: boot a livecd and use gparted
[03:39] <tahdas> i cant install steam on ubuntu 13.04 64 bit. And can i just use the skype for 12.04?
[03:40] <pfifo> boern: im going afk for a bit
[03:40] <boern> so in the FSTAB i just have to add "tmpfs /tmp tmpfs defaults,noatime,mode=1777 0 0" right??
[03:40] <boern> ok see u
[03:41] <Ben64> boern: /tmp and swap are not related
[03:43] <boern> this is my FSTAB now
[03:43] <boern> http://pastebin.com/HXBhb65Y
[03:44] <boern> is that correct?
[03:44] <boern> for my SSD
[03:44] <Ben64> boern: again, /tmp has nothing to do with swap
[03:45] <boern> i have changed the "tmpfs /tmp tmpfs defaults,noatime,mode=1777 0 0"
[03:45] <boern> year
[03:45] <boern> but im not talking about the SSD
[03:45] <Ben64> you literally said "for my SSD"
[03:45] <boern> to keep it health :P
[03:46] <Ben64> you're switching tracks too much, focus on one thing at a time.
[03:46] <boern> thats true multitasking xD
[03:46] <boern> forget the swap thing
[03:47] <boern> i will think about that and ask a friend as well
[03:47] <Ben64> for the swap, if you have enough ram you can disable swap and be fine
[03:47] <Ben64> and you really shouldn't have swap on a ssd
[03:47] <boern> year.. but is there another way? i dont want to boot with live CD^^
[03:47] <phantomcircuit> i have a precise install with backports that has the linux-image-generic-lts-raring package installed
[03:47] <phantomcircuit> what's going on there?
[03:48] <Ben64> boern: you don't need to reboot to get rid of swap
[03:48] <boern> but how do i get rid of it
[03:48] <Ben64> phantomcircuit: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/Release/Rolling
[03:49] <Ben64> boern: how much ram do you have?
[03:49] <boern> gparted dont let me modify
[03:49] <boern> 8GB
[03:49] <boern> DDR3
[03:49] <kostkon> phantomcircuit: lts enablement stack. 12.04.3 comes with the raring stack
[03:49] <Ben64> comment it out from the fstab, and use the command "swapoff" to disable it
[03:50] <boern> #UUID=838c0494-705d-4873-b133-e1193e792435 none            swap ?
[03:50] <Ben64> yep
[03:51] <boern> and under that, i should write "swapoff"?
[03:51] <Ben64> no, use the command to turn it off
[03:52] <boern> thanks ;)
[03:52] <boern> soo i will leave for today :D
[03:52] <boern> soo late
[03:52] <boern> 6 am lololo
[03:53] <tahdas> hi can someone help me?
[03:54] <Oddity> Probably. Don't ask to ask :P
[03:55] <tahdas> what the image thing everone uses?
[03:55] <tahdas> i need to post a screen shot
[03:56] <genii> The PrintScreen button
[03:56] <tahdas> yeah, but the site to upload the to
[03:57] <genii> For temp, usually someplace like imagebin
[03:57] <tahdas> thats not it
[03:58] <Romance> hello, how do i create a wifi hotspot, i have 2 usb wifi adapter, one is connected to the wireless router(hotspot), so basically i have a working internet connection now, but i want to make my laptop as a hotspot or better be called Repeater by using that second usb wifi adapter, please?
[03:58] <genii> tahdas: tinypic, photobucket, imageshack
[03:59] <genii> It doesn't really matter which you use so long as it works.
[03:59] <tahdas> yeah but i already have an count on one of them
[04:04] <tahdas> imagur
[04:04] <Guest7426> im trying to remove an efi entry and im trying to follow what this guy said but i keep getting the error Fatal: Couldn't open either sysfs or procfs directories for accessing EFI variables   http://askubuntu.com/questions/263028/how-can-i-remove-ubuntu-from-the-uefi-boot-options
[04:05] <tahdas> http://i.imgur.com/I4yNobn.png
[04:05] <Dr_Willis> Guest7426:  so does /procfs/ or /sysfs/ exist?
[04:06] <Guest7426> im on the live disk Dr_Willis
[04:06] <tech11> hi all, what is install development packages for gammamoo server?
[04:06] <Dr_Willis> Guest7426:  No idea then. sorry
[04:07] <Dr_Willis> !find gammamoo
[04:07] <Dr_Willis> dosent seem to be a gammamoo in the repos.
[04:09] <tahdas> it wont let me install stuff via the app store, it just keeps giving the same message http://i.imgur.com/I4yNobn.png
[04:11] <tech11> net_sysv_tcp.c:44:38: fatal error: sys/conf.h: No such file or directory
[04:12] <Ben64> tech11: without any context nobody will be able to help you
[04:13] <tech11> i am using ubuntu
[04:15] <tech11> i am using ubuntu 13.02 in my linode
[04:15] <Ari-Yang> wait what
[04:15] <Ari-Yang> there's a 13.02?
[04:16] <Ben64> no, theres 13.04
[04:16] <tech11> i am using ubuntu 13.04 in my linode
[04:16] <comodo_dragon> there is ubuntu 13.01
[04:16] <tech11> net_sysv_tcp.c:44:38: fatal error: sys/conf.h: No such file or directory
[04:17] <Ben64> thats still no context
[04:17] <Ben64> !details | tech11
[04:17] <Ben64> comodo_dragon: no there isn't
[04:17] <comodo_dragon> i am using it at the moment
[04:18] <comodo_dragon> just google it
[04:18] <genii> comodo_dragon: 13.10 with zero at the end is a ten as in the tenth month when it gets released. Not 13.1
[04:18] <comodo_dragon> yes
[04:19] <comodo_dragon> that i am using, beta version
[04:19] <Dr_Willis> in version numbers - every digit counts ;)
[04:20] <genii> Dr_Willis: Sometimes I think the first one for Oct whould be #.10.0
[04:20] <Dr_Willis> i think they should just start calling them by the full date. ;) 2013-oct
[04:21] <toothe> What configuration file does slapd use by default?
[04:23] <Dr_Willis> man slapd may mention it near the end of the doc.  often thres a list of config  and other related files
[04:23] <Dr_Willis> or try 'locate slapd' and see aht looks like a conf file
[04:24] <toothe> yah, i'll just do that.
[04:26] <phong_> hi guys, is there a way to tell what my sftp port is?
[04:26] <phong_> i remember i set it to diff port other then default 22
[04:26] <phong_> help me
[04:26] <plut0> ubuntu stops booting after mounting the file systems, any idea why its hung up?
[04:26] <phong_> is there a way to find out what is my sftp port ?
[04:27] <genii> toothe: It uses the slapd-config way now, all the schema files are included in /etc/ldap/ldap.conf and then the resulting config is made in /etc/ldap/slapd.d directory but you don't edit those. See  https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/serverguide/openldap-server.html for more
[04:27] <Dr_Willis> phong_:  nmap scan the server. look for any responding ports perhaps?
[04:27] <genii> phong_: Maybe do netstat -tuna and see if one of the open ports looks familiar
[04:28] <phong_> 2 people tell me 2 diff thing
[04:28] <phong_> what should i do?
[04:28] <Dr_Willis> and both may work...
[04:28] <Dr_Willis> so try them both
[04:28] <Dr_Willis> theres alwyas 12+ ways to do anything in linux
[04:28] <phong_> i type nmap nothing show
[04:28] <Dr_Willis> you COULD just look at the ssh config files where you set the port
[04:28] <phong_> what is the actual command
[04:28] <phong_> i'm new in ubuntu man
[04:29]  * genii hands Dr_Willis 6 coffees and takes a half-a-dozen for himself
[04:29] <Dr_Willis> i would suggest you stick to the default port.
[04:29] <phong_> Dr_Willis, i did change a long time a g
[04:29] <Dr_Willis> genii:  eating cookies riht now.
[04:29] <phong_> Dr_Willis, i just forget what it is now
[04:30] <genii> phong_: Please pastebin the out put of: netstat -tuna
[04:30] <wilee-nilee> mmmm caffeine and sugar
[04:30] <toothe> ahh, this document makes more sense than the openldap one.
[04:30] <toothe> its more specific to ubuntu.
[04:31] <Hodapp> ew, leave the sugar out of the caffeine
[04:31] <ghgh> heello
[04:31] <phong_> genii, http://pastebin.com/H5xC9U1Y
[04:31] <tech11> i have a problem with gammamoo server. i'm running version 13.04 when i try to do make gammamoo server. i get the following output: net_sysv_tcp.c:44:38: fatal error: sys/conf.h: No such file or directory and make: *** [net_proto.o] Error 1 but i expected it to do make.
[04:32] <buu> Hey, does ubuntu have anyway to mess with the sensitivity or exact details of lock trackpad while typing?
[04:32] <buu> Beyond just the standard applet config?
[04:32] <phong_> genii, ???
[04:32] <Dr_Willis> xubuntu has a 'disable touchpad while typeing' check boxc in itsd mouse configs
[04:32] <dirdirdir> hellohello
[04:32] <genii> phong_: It's almost certainly one of the last 5 on the list
[04:33] <Dr_Willis> other then that.. not seen anything else
[04:33] <Dr_Willis> of course that checkbox dosent work on my pc. but i have a command that toggles my touchpad
[04:33] <phong_> genii, i dont think so..
[04:33] <phong_> genii,  anyway, how to change it to default then
[04:33] <dirdirdir> Guys, which browser do you use and why?
[04:33] <phong_> or to any other port?
[04:33] <phong_> genii, how to change sftp port then?
[04:34] <genii> phong_: All the other ports are well known services
[04:34] <Dr_Willis> dirdirdir:  try them all   - use what you like
[04:34] <Dr_Willis> dirdirdir:  i find it depends on what site im going to. ;) due to how my browsers are setup
[04:34] <phunyguy> I cannot seem to get Facebook chat to connect in Empathy... keeps saying "Account requires authorisation".  Any ideas?
[04:34] <tech11> i have a problem with gammamoo server. i'm running version 13.04 when i try to do make file for gammamoo server. i get the following output: net_sysv_tcp.c:44:38: fatal error: sys/conf.h: No such file or directory and make: *** [net_proto.o] Error 1 but i expected it to do make file.
[04:34] <dirdirdir> thank Dr. Also, is there any risk running chromium?
[04:35] <Dr_Willis> dirdirdir:  its a well known and  supported browser.
[04:35] <dirdirdir> Dr_Willis: and how do you classify them?
[04:35] <Dr_Willis> tech11:  you did install all the needed -dev packages?
[04:35] <dirdirdir> Dr_Willis: Ok, ty.
[04:35] <Dr_Willis> dirdirdir:  i use  one i got all suped up with addblocks and stuff for normal browsing. ;) then one without the stuff for watching hulu and crunchyroll basically
[04:36] <dirdirdir> Dr_Willis: how do you get to talk me the way you do (showing my nickname after what you say and also your name turns red)??
[04:36] <genii> phong_: My bet of those is: 5353 (unless you're using it for some obfuscated DNS which is normally 53), or 52826
[04:36] <Dr_Willis> dirdirdir:  thats your irc client doing it.
[04:36] <Dr_Willis> dirdirdir:  it just flags your own nick
[04:37] <Dr_Willis> My name is not red here. ;)
[04:37] <dirdirdir> Dr_Willis: oh, lel, tyvm :D
[04:37] <dirdirdir> yes, indeed, haha
[04:37] <dirdirdir> and which broswer do you use for each?
[04:37] <dirdirdir> sounds like a very good idea, btw
[04:38] <tech11> what is install -dev package?
[04:38] <Dr_Willis> ff has better support for adblocks and flash downloaders
[04:38] <zexcriz> i have installed ftp and openssh server, but how can i make automatically discoverable on my mobile device ?
[04:38] <david_> I have installed lamp for the first time and was wondering if there was anything else I needed to know about(commands ect) ?)
[04:38] <Dr_Willis> tech11:  if you want to compile stuff that uses the sdl libraries.. theres the assoicated sdl 'dev' packages that contain the ccode you need to compile against the devs. (the includes and so forth)
[04:39] <peemak> nomodeset
[04:39] <Dr_Willis> for example. ;)
[04:39] <peemak> !nomodeset
[04:39] <LLckfan> Hello
[04:39] <dirdirdir> Dr_Willis: so you leave chromium for the streaming?
[04:40] <Dr_Willis> if i wanted to compile 'weechat' from source with the latest source. i could  use 'sudo apt-get build-dep weechat' to pull in all known nee3ded -dev packages that weechat uses
[04:40] <Dr_Willis> dirdirdir:  yep sometimes. ;)
[04:40] <dirdirdir> Dr_Willis: ok n-n tyvm
[04:40] <reisio> LLckfan: hi
[04:40] <Dr_Willis> havent been watching vidoes on the pc much. ;) been using the roku
[04:40] <phong_> how to know my current user
[04:40] <dirdirdir> Dr_Willis: I'm gonna try them now (btw, i'm on elementary luna atm)
[04:41] <LLckfan> I have a Gateway laptop and when I opened the lid the power light was on but the laptop was asleep. When I pushed the power it started flashing with the lights for the light bulb and the battery but only when it was plugged in. Is this a sign I need a new tip end for my charger?
[04:41] <genii> phong_: whoami
[04:41] <phong_> genii, do you have teamviewer?
[04:41] <dirdirdir> Dr_Willis: what's that roku?
[04:41] <phong_> i still can't see it connect with 5353
[04:42] <Dr_Willis> dirdirdir:  a set top box/media player/internet video player
[04:42] <wilee-nilee> LLckfan, How do you have it set in power to awake from sleep, mine is just moving the mouse.
[04:42] <dirdirdir> sounds like something i want, hahaha
[04:43] <dirdirdir> Dr_Willis: i was trying to use miniTube, but it seems to be missing something, 'cause it doesn't play the videos...
[04:43] <Dr_Willis> dirdirdir:  i just use flash-downloader extensions in the browser mainly
[04:43] <genii> phong_: Are you ssh into that box or on it locally?
[04:43] <tech11> Unable to locate package dev
[04:43] <LLckfan> wilee-nileeI had to push the power button as it was turned off because of the lid being shut
[04:43] <dirdirdir> Dr_Willis: that's what i want to be doing
[04:44] <phong_> locally still now work...ginii
[04:44] <dirdirdir> Dr_Willis: you sound like  a very inteligent person ;P
[04:44] <phong_> genii, i have teamviewer id: 710 235 809
[04:44] <dirdirdir> Dr_Willis: thank you so much for the help :)
[04:44] <Dr_Willis> tech11:  dev is not a single packge.. Most All the lbaries and stuff have '-dev' packages in addation to their normal package.
[04:45] <genii> phong_: I don't currently have Teamviewer
[04:45] <Dr_Willis> tech11:  do an 'apt-cache search sdl | grep dev' for example
[04:45] <phong_> pls man
[04:45] <phong_> can't you download it?
[04:45] <genii> phong_: If you do: ps aux | grep sshd           ...is there a result?
[04:45] <phong_> l;et me try
[04:45] <genii> phong_: I'd rather do it the long tortuous way
[04:45] <zexcriz> phong_, what's your issue ?
[04:46] <Dr_Willis> info python-dev
[04:46] <Dr_Willis> !info python-dev
[04:46] <wilee-nilee> LLckfan, First you said asleep, now its off, there is also hibernate, what was it?
[04:46] <genii> zexcriz: Forgot what nonstandard port he set sftp to use
[04:46] <phong_> genii, phong_    2586  0.0  0.0  14576   916 pts/0    S+   00:46   0:00 grep --color=auto sshd
[04:46] <Seven_Six_Two> I would like the automate the creation of a new website, including apache config, directory creation, etc, but I don't know what to use to do the config file modifications. Is this a sed or gawk thing?
[04:46] <genii> OK, so it's not running.
[04:46] <phong_> zexcriz, i dont know what is my sftp port number
[04:46] <phong_> not running?
[04:46] <wilee-nilee> LLckfan, As far as us being able to check if its charging you can check it with the computer on.
[04:46] <phong_> how to run it
[04:47] <Ben64> phong_: cat /etc/ssh/sshd_config | grep Port
[04:47] <zexcriz> genii, and phong_ ok :)
[04:47] <genii> phong_: If you do: sudo service ssh start     ...and then please pastebin result again of: netstat -tuna
[04:48] <phong_> [sudo] password for phong_:
[04:48] <phong_> ssh: unrecognized service
[04:48] <Dr_Willis> it may be sshd
[04:48] <Dr_Willis> tab completiom may help fill in the right name  ;)
[04:49] <Ben64> phong_: cat /etc/ssh/sshd_config | grep Port
[04:49] <LLckfan> It was asleep
[04:49] <LLckfan> It was not powered done'
[04:49] <Dr_Willis> sudo service ssh<tab>    restart
[04:49] <LLckfan> down*
[04:49] <pfifo> Dr_Willis: why python-dev?
[04:49] <LLckfan> If the lights are n ot flashing it charges when plugged in
[04:49] <wilee-nilee> LLckfan, turn it on and check if it's charging, that was the question right, basically?
[04:49] <Dr_Willis> pfifo:  it was an example of a -dev package
[04:50] <phong_> genii, phong_@p:~$ cat /etc/ssh/sshd_config | grep Port
[04:50] <phong_> cat: /etc/ssh/sshd_config: No such file or directory
[04:50] <phong_> what could be wrong?
[04:50] <genii> phong_: sftp should be using whatever port the ssh daemon is set to, so if we start that and see what port is different than before, you know what port sftp is using
[04:50] <zexcriz> phong_, they make sure you have installed openssh
[04:50] <Ben64> phong_: looks like you don't have ssh server installed then
[04:50] <plut0> init: failed to connect to socket /com/ubuntu/upstart: connection refused
[04:50] <LLckfan> wilee-nilee I am on it right now
[04:50] <phong_> well..how to do it then?
[04:50] <Ben64> phong_: sudo apt-get install openssh-server
[04:50] <LLckfan> No that was not the question
[04:50] <tech11> dr_willis apt-casche search sdl | gerp dev' for example
[04:51] <Dr_Willis> tech11:  he wanted to know about devb packages..
[04:51] <Dr_Willis> that just gives some that exist
[04:51] <phong_> it is installing processs....thanks..
[04:51] <wilee-nilee> LLckfan, The tip of your charger is a charging issue correct?
[04:51] <phong_> genii, it is done...next?
[04:51] <LLckfan> no
[04:52] <wilee-nilee> LLckfan, Then spell it out with more details and tab complete nicks when you are talking with another user.
[04:53] <phong_> genii, are you there sir?
[04:53] <LLckfan> All I want to know is if I should buy a new charger tip
[04:54] <genii> phong_: Yes. So if you start now the ssh by: sudo service ssh start     .... the result of: netstat -tuna      should show port 22 as being used and you should be able to use that for sftp
[04:54] <reisio> how much is a new charger tip?
[04:54] <reisio> compare that to how much your time is worth and how long you've been talking about this
[04:54] <Dr_Willis> LLckfan:  id say yes. :)  unless you cant afford one. then you cant. so it dosent matter
[04:54] <phong_> genii, yep i see 22
[04:54] <phong_> let me test
[04:55] <phong_> genii, work like charm
[04:55] <phong_> thanks genii
[04:55] <LLckfan> But it chages still
[04:55] <genii> phong_: Then if you require, you can set the line Port 22  to something different in /etc/ssh/sshd_config to make it run on some other port
[04:56] <genii> phong_: You're welcome
[04:56] <ddy> h
[04:58] <plut0> anyone know how to fix this? init: failed to connect to socket /com/ubuntu/upstart: connection refused
[04:58] <justanotheruser> Suddenly I am having problems with my sound. The sound doesn't play though my speakers or  headphones. My volume manager program is saying the sound is fine. I have restared alsa-utils, but it hasn't fixed the problem. If someone has a remedy please highlight me.
[04:58] <pfifo> !details | plut0
[04:59] <Dr_Willis> !sound | justanotheruser
[04:59] <plut0> ubuntu is not booting, it mounts the root file system then stops, no error
[04:59] <pfifo> plut0: has it ever booted?
[05:00] <plut0> pfifo: no, new install
[05:00] <pfifo> plut0: did you enable LVM?
[05:00] <plut0> pfifo: zfs root
[05:01] <pfifo> plut0: and you can verify it mounts properly?
[05:01] <plut0> pfifo: yes. booting with init=/bin/bash
[05:01] <zexcriz> i have installed ftp and openssh server, but how can i make automatically discoverable on my mobile device ?
[05:01] <plut0> pfifo: all the partitions mount fine
[05:02] <Dr_Willis> zexcriz:  just ssh to your ip. you may need to set up port forwarding on the router
[05:03] <zexcriz> Dr_Willis, setting up manually has no issue, i have to enter the host ip and then i can access easily, but i am interested to do in such a way that my mobile device can scan those service and i can directly authenticate into it.
[05:04] <Dr_Willis> zexcriz:  you normally dont auto 'scan' ssh and ftp.
[05:04] <Dr_Willis> you can set up ssh clients with ssh keys to connect withoug needing a password
[05:04] <LLckfan> hello
[05:05] <Dr_Willis> then theres all those fun dynamic-dns services that can route you if your ip changes
[05:05] <justanotheruser> Hey thanks Dr_Willis, the troubleshooting worked
[05:05] <reisio> LLckfan: hi again
[05:06] <Dr_Willis> justanotheruser:  thats a first. ;P
[05:06] <phong_> genii, is there a way to change the default port 22 for sftp ?
[05:06] <phong_> genii, like change it to listen to 9999
[05:07] <genii> phong_: I already explained how earlier :)
[05:07] <Dr_Willis> !ssh | phong_
[05:07] <genii> phong_: eg: "Then if you require, you can set the line Port 22 to something different in /etc/ssh/sshd_config to make it run on some other port"
[05:07] <pfifo> plut0: im stumped, dont know enough about zfs to even suggest a course of action
[05:07] <genii> phong_: The port ssh daemon uses is what sftp will use
[05:08] <Dr_Willis> if you want to use ssh - you should spend a little time and learn it.  its worth the effort
[05:08] <plut0> pfifo: i'm more interested in why init is screwed up?
[05:08] <zexcriz> Dr_Willis, ok :)
[05:08] <Dr_Willis> pfifo:  is zfs in the  official kernel now?
[05:08] <Dr_Willis> !zfs
[05:09] <pfifo> plut0: it looks like init cant communicate with upstart, possibly due to zfs not supporting fifos
[05:09] <plut0> http://zfsonlinux.org/
[05:09] <pfifo> plut0: again, im not familiar with zfs
[05:09] <plut0> https://github.com/zfsonlinux/pkg-zfs/wiki/HOWTO-install-Ubuntu-to-a-Native-ZFS-Root-Filesystem
[05:13] <plut0> i'm getting past kernel booting and file systems mounting
[05:13] <plut0> seems like init is screwed up
[05:13] <plut0> i have a shell currently
[05:13] <plut0> i can't run "init 1"
[05:13] <Ben64> !init
[05:14] <Ben64> hmm... well plut0 ... "init" doesn't do what you think it will for most runlevels
[05:15] <plut0> init 1 used to run single mode, what does it do now?
[05:15] <Dr_Willis> !runlevel
[05:15] <Dr_Willis> im not even sure what it does these days
[05:16] <Dr_Willis> you rarey see the use of init mentoned in ubuntu docs or help guides
[05:16] <genii> Should actually still go to single user
[05:16] <Ben64> yeah it should
[05:16] <Ben64> but you can do that from grub
[05:16] <genii> plut0: Did you try: telinit 1     ...instead?
[05:17] <plut0> init: Failed to connect to socket /com/ubuntu/upstart: Connection refused
[05:17] <plut0> that directory structure doesn't even exist
[05:19] <genii> "connection refused" intimates perhaps it doesn't have write permission. So it wouldn't exist if this is the case.
[05:19] <plut0> not really familiar with upstart
[05:19] <plut0> didn't think init had dependencies
[05:19] <plut0> how does it work?
[05:20] <Dr_Willis> upstart replaces sysv - so its the main  proces to start  all the services,  theresd the upstart cookbook web site with a lot of good info
[05:20] <Ben64> why zfs anyway?
[05:20] <plut0> Ben64: lots of features
[05:21] <pfifo> plut0: get into a rescue shell and try this 'dpkg-divert --local --rename --add /sbin/initctl' and then 'ln -s /bin/true /sbin/initctl'
[05:21] <Ben64> ext4 has lots of features :D
[05:24] <Ponch0> Hello, I recently recently installed ubuntu and upon turning the computer on I get a message that ubuntu_???_swap1 is not ready or not present???
[05:24] <reisio> Ponch0: do not fear!
[05:24] <reisio> Ponch0: it still boots up, right?
[05:24] <rrm> would you recommend me 1015E-DS03 as a ubuntu computer?
[05:25] <reisio> rrm: what make?
[05:25] <rrm> reisio: asus
[05:25] <reisio> asus is usually pretty linux friendly, they even embed it in some of their boxes
[05:26] <reisio> 1015e?
[05:26] <rrm> reisio: yeah, its new it seems, my thinkpad R40 is getting slow
[05:27] <Ponch0> reisio: ithe computer boots up, wether swap1 boots I do not know
[05:27] <plut0> pfifo: i saw that thread, didn't help
[05:27] <reisio> rrm: apparently some people ship the 1015e with ubuntu preinstalled
[05:27] <reisio> rrm: so likely everything works as expected
[05:27] <rrm> reisio: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834231067
[05:27] <plut0> if i try to pass "init=1" to grub, it fails with "Target filesystem doesn't have requested 1"
[05:28] <reisio> Ponch0: cat /proc/swaps
[05:28] <reisio> rrm: yeah... if it ships with Ubuntu, it's all going to work
[05:28] <reisio> newegg wouldn't keep something up that is a scam
[05:28] <reisio> hence it is not
[05:28] <reisio> so is your question would we recommend it in general as a laptop, vs others?
[05:29] <reisio> it looks about right for $230
[05:29] <Ponch0> reisio: only this: "/dev/dm-2" is present.
[05:29] <reisio> for another $100, in the USA, you could get >2GHz proc, 3+GB RAM, and dedicated graphics (and probably less battery life)
[05:29] <reisio> Ponch0: size/used/priority?
[05:30] <Ponch0> partition	8269820	0	-1
[05:30] <pfifo> plut0: did you perform the diversion during the install?
[05:30] <reisio> Ponch0: well that 0 doesn't look quite right, but I suppose it could have just not been used yet
[05:30] <plut0> pfifo: no just for troubleshooting
[05:31] <reisio> Ponch0: grep -i swap1 /etc/fstab
[05:31] <rrm> reisio: yeah, since my thinkpad r40 is old... i do not care about speed, just have and ssd around and 8gb or ddr3
[05:31] <reisio> rrm: well I mean, it'll be plenty fast for the average person
[05:31] <reisio> I was just offering you a price differential
[05:31] <Ponch0> /dev/mapper/cryptswap1 none swap sw 0 0
[05:31] <pfifo> plut0: during the install did you upgrade or install anything or are you still dealing with a vanilla debootstap core
[05:31] <reisio> Ponch0: ah
[05:32] <reisio> Ponch0: sounds like it is used, just not as early as whatever is complaining is checking
[05:32] <plut0> pfifo: https://github.com/zfsonlinux/pkg-zfs/wiki/HOWTO-install-Ubuntu-to-a-Native-ZFS-Root-Filesystem
[05:32] <reisio> rrm: wow that has vt-x
[05:32] <Ponch0> reisio: thank you
[05:32] <rrm> reisio: i know, i look at that too.  i rarely use cd/dvd  all is online and have an external cd/dvd
[05:32] <reisio> that's one of the cheaper vt-x boxes I've seen
[05:32] <paulus68_1> is there a way to install packages during setup of a server install?
[05:32] <Ponch0> Should I do a reinstall, to see if it continues?
[05:32] <reisio> rrm: sounds good then
[05:33] <kalIeskrIma> hi its this ubuntu help?
[05:33] <reisio> rrm: if you're picky about keyboards you might want to try it first, in person
[05:33] <paulus68_1> through terminal
[05:33] <reisio> looks like one of those asus flat chiclet 'boards
[05:33] <reisio> Ponch0: oh did you just install?
[05:33] <plut0> pfifo: looks like debstrap, ubuntu-minimal, grub and a few other things
[05:33] <reisio> Ponch0: you could, if you're bored, but expecting a different result from the same process isn't exactly logical
[05:33] <reisio> not that it doesn't happen
[05:33] <reisio> kalIeskrIma: yes
[05:33] <pfifo> plut0: yeah you did if you followed this to a t... you need to add that diversion before you do ant apt-getting
[05:34] <Ponch0> reisio: yes few days ago.
[05:34] <reisio> Ponch0: you probably aren't the first person to have encountered such an error
[05:34] <pfifo> plut0: 5.5 right after locale-gen
[05:34] <kalIeskrIma>  ok I have a problemI has ubuntu 12.04 and just tried to update to 12.10
[05:34] <pfifo> plut0: then remove it before first reboot
[05:34] <reisio> Ponch0: in fact, it probably isn't even a problem
[05:34] <plut0> pfifo: the dpkg-diversion step isn't part of these instructions
[05:34] <reisio> Ponch0: it's probably just an expected side effect of encrypted swap
[05:35] <Ponch0> reisio: thank you sir.
[05:35] <rrm> reisio: yeah, the processor is not bad, i just want to find out if i can bump the memory since i got 2x 4gb ddr3
[05:35] <pfifo> plut0: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/upstart/+bug/430224
[05:35] <reisio> Ponch0: if you actually need swap, and it isn't working
[05:36] <reisio> Ponch0: you will notice :) your system will slow to a crawl
[05:36] <tozen> hi all! is it normal having 12.04 getting linux-headers-lts-quantal as part of todays updates?
[05:36] <reisio> Ponch0: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1943899
[05:36] <Ponch0> reisio: aah will look out for that :D
[05:37] <reisio> tozen: something make you think it wouldn't be?
[05:37] <plut0> pfifo: so i need to replace initctl then run the apt-get installs?
[05:37] <Ponch0> wow thank you for the link, i'll read through it
[05:37] <kalIeskrIma> everythIng went fine until the laptop restarted to mount the ubuntu 12.10. after that I got just a loading to ubuntu screen and after that a black screen with underscore sIgn....no keyboard buttons work and I have shut down the pc. after that I tried to not from cd...ubuntu 12.10 and 12.04...nothIng same problem......help please!
[05:37] <tozen> reisio: emmm 12.04 is precise
[05:37] <reisio> Ponch0: I'm not convinced it's anything more than a script that hasn't been giving a conditional for encrypted swap just because it wasn't a priority, but it could be :p
[05:38] <reisio> tozen: are you having a problem?
[05:38] <reisio> kalIeskrIma: CTRL+ALT+F2?
[05:38] <Ponch0> Understood.
[05:39] <plut0> pfifo: what are the details?
[05:39] <Dr_Willis> !nomodeset
[05:39] <kalIeskrIma> let me try..Im new to ubuntu and don't know key words.. I exec trIed to edIt settIngs wIth addIng nomode bootIng
[05:39] <tozen> reisio: well. i've no problems just confused and curious about the meaning
[05:40] <pfifo> plut0: check this page and see how they do the diversion, it looks very similiar to what your doing, and explains a few things... https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDCustomizationFromScratch
[05:40] <genii> tozen: Precise-changes Digest, Vol 25, Issue 5 shows that it was put into precise-proposed, so you must have that enabled
[05:40] <tozen> genii: ok, thx
[05:41] <kalIeskrIma> no ctrl+alt+f2 doesn't work, been holding for a minute
[05:41] <reisio> well, you wouldn't want to hold it anyways :)
[05:42] <reisio> in the event you don't trust your keystrokes/keys/keyboard/etc., tapping a couple times works best
[05:42] <reisio> but take a look at what ubottu said
[05:42] <kalIeskrIma> ok...be back in a min...
[05:44] <genii> tozen: You can check all the changes at https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/precise-changes/
[05:48] <paulus68_1> Is there a way to install other packages during install of a ubuntu server ? I need to install open-iscsi package but don't know how to do so
[05:49] <reisio> paulus68_1: you need it before installation/bootup?
[05:50] <paulus68_1> reisio: this is what I try to do on a hp proliant ML310:  I have activated in my bios the embedded Sata Raid (raid 1)  and during install it gives the message (one of more drives containing serial ata raid configurations have been found do you wish to activate these raid devices  yes or no
[05:51] <paulus68_1> reisio: when clicking on yes I get configure Iscsi volumes undo change to partitions and finish partitioning and write changes to disk
[05:51] <kali_eskrima> @reisio: so i tried to see the info given to me by ubuntu and the first portion doesnt help, but the rest seems could.. will this command in terminal help me? gksudo gedit /etc/default/grub
[05:52] <paulus68_1> reisio: when selection on configure ISCSI volumes it asks me to enter target IP and username (these are 2 internal hard drives)
[05:52] <reisio> kali_eskrima: not on its own...
[05:52] <kali_eskrima> by the way the CTRL+ALT+F2 doesnt work for me
[05:52] <reisio> you said
[05:53] <kali_eskrima> how do you mean,? once i input the command, should the terminal start processing?
[05:53] <kali_eskrima> oh sorry
[05:53] <Dr_Willis> alt-ctrl-f2 gets to the consoles
[05:54] <pfifo> plut0: im going to give this zfs root a shot tomorrow... I love to tinker with this kind of stuff, will you be around? I can keep you informed about progress and problems I run into.
[05:54] <kali_eskrima> also when i added the nomodeset, it started loading something and thats it, stopped there didnt do anything, just black screen with loading title and underscore in the next line
[05:55] <kali_eskrima> why it wouldnt just boot from a ubuntu 12.04 or 12.10 dvd..?
[05:56] <kali_eskrima> like add to the dvd reader and start it.. its not boothing. :(
[05:56] <Dr_Willis> because its most likely a video driver issue
[05:57] <Dr_Willis> you plan on sticking to 12.10? or are going to upgrade further?
[05:59] <kali_eskrima> @dr willis. ok i had installed from the dvd ubuntu 12.04 couple a days ago. today i decided to update/download the ubuntu 12.10 (actually upgrade), this was made through update software on desktop in ubuntu 12.04
[05:59] <kali_eskrima> everything was going fine until it downloaded all the components and asked me to restart the pc
[05:59] <Dr_Willis> if the system was just a few days old. a clean install woukld be just as well. but you do realoize theres 13.04 and soon 13.10 out?
[05:59] <kali_eskrima> when i restarted the pc it just crashed, it didnt wanted to load the ubuntu... nothing
[06:00] <kali_eskrima> so im stuck with not working ubuntu.
[06:00] <Dr_Willis> i cant see much reason to use 12.10  most people either use the LTS , or the latest.. not whats in betwen
[06:00] <kali_eskrima> yes i do know
[06:00] <Ari-Yang> Akaigo-Arc 3.11.3-031103-generic x86_64 Description: Ubuntu 12.10 Codename: quantal
[06:00] <Ari-Yang> :x
[06:00] <Ari-Yang> I'm still on 12.10 xD;
[06:00] <Ari-Yang> and the reason is that I'm too cautious to upgrade to 13.04
[06:01] <Ari-Yang> doesn't matter anyway because I use a mainline kernel and latest mesa and open source ati driver
[06:01] <Dr_Willis> mosy 'normal' people... ;0
[06:01] <kali_eskrima> @dr willis. i wanted to update gradually. i actually purchased an original ubuntu 12.10 dvd, which doesnt work at all and is not bootable. thats why i download in the first place the 12.04 and made me an iso bootable dvd....
[06:01] <Dr_Willis> kali_eskrima:  theres not much point in using 12.10 unless you hage some very specfial reasons to do so.
[06:02] <kali_eskrima> who is normal.......? only the setting on the washing machines... :P
[06:02] <Dr_Willis> stick to 12.04 or the latest release.
[06:03] <kali_eskrima> i thought the latest release was 12.10 as it was giving me the option in the "search for the update and latest software"
[06:03] <Dr_Willis> the rlease version is the year/month
[06:03] <Dr_Willis> and theres a new release every 6 mo
[06:03] <GlemSom> I would like to ssh to a server, and run a sudu. I've create a script to return the password, and I execute the sudo like this:  'sudo_askpass=returnpass.sh sudo -s bash test2.sh'  Why does that still give me  'sudo: no tty present and no askpass program specified' ?
[06:03] <Dr_Willis> 12.10 is almost a year old
[06:03] <kali_eskrima> oh ok. yeah im new to this and im learning still.. so much to learn.
[06:04] <Ari-Yang> kali_eskrima: if you don't like to update every 6months or so.... stick with LTS
[06:04] <Ari-Yang> !LTS
[06:04] <reisio> GlemSom: shouldn't need to do that
[06:04] <Ari-Yang> !EOL | kali_eskrima
[06:05] <GlemSom> reisio, Ok, then what is needed for sudo to take a password from either stdin, or another askpass program - without stealing the tty ?
[06:05] <kali_eskrima> anyway how do i fix now the laptop, that is not loading not the 12.04 bootable cd nor in the grub 2.0 mode
[06:05] <Dr_Willis> GlemSom:  i think that could be considered a major security issue.
[06:05] <mrkent> I got this new xps desktop, but it won't seem to let me boot from usb (which i plan to use to install ubuntu)
[06:05] <reisio> GlemSom: I meant you shouldn't need to send a pass
[06:06] <Dr_Willis> night all
[06:06] <GlemSom> reisio, It is needed, to elevate the user to admin.
[06:06] <reisio> GlemSom: that's what sudo does
[06:06] <GlemSom> reisio, Yeap - exactly :) Kinda why I'm using sudo... ;)
[06:06] <kali_eskrima> ok what is that !LTS will that help me restore my desktop and run ubutnu ?
[06:07] <reisio> GlemSom: http://www.google.com/search?q=%22sudo%20over%20ssh%22
[06:07] <kali_eskrima> confused here sorry. it looks hopeless because nothing works, except that if i press del or shift will bring me to the menu grub
[06:09] <rainbowwarrior> hello
[06:09] <kali_eskrima> what should i do when i get to the advanced options... i tried using the command line in terminal but i dont know what should i type in to restore... i already tried the nomode
[06:10] <rainbowwarrior> hello , does anyone here know if Ubuntu 13.04 works fine with an acer v5 Touch Screen laptop please ?
[06:10] <GlemSom> reisio, Sadly, that does not solve the actual problem, of sudo not picking up an askpass program... which is needed...
[06:10] <linu> hi all i would like to install windows 7 on my ubuntu 12.04 pc using virtualbox,where i can get iso file for windows 7
[06:10] <reisio> linu: online, or from an existing installation
[06:11] <reisio> rainbowwarrior: "v5" is the whole model?
[06:11] <pers3us> linu: Buy one...
[06:11] <reisio> rainbowwarrior: chances are if you boot the install media and hit 'try', it will be apparent whether it works or not
[06:11] <mrkent> The windows bootloader just automatically goes into windows, and the UEFI never lets me boot from usb
[06:11] <mrkent> anyone know how to solve this?
[06:12] <gulag2013> Seriously, you best bet is to try an evaluation copy of windows 8 preview.. Then again this is ubuntu support I think Ask in  #Windows.
[06:12] <Ari-Yang> linu: http://www.w7forums.com/threads/official-windows-7-sp1-iso-image-downloads.12325/
[06:12] <genii> linu: If you already have a running Win 7 you can use BartPE to make a cd image
[06:14] <rainbowwarrior> reisio my bad its an acer Aspire v5-531P/571P
[06:14] <rainbowwarrior> ok thank you reisio :o)
[06:18] <kali_eskrima> ok what about how do u add a two or more partitions when installing ubuntu 12.04. or when the os is already installed. do you need a program?
[06:18] <linu> genii i dont have windows i have used only ubuntu
[06:19] <genii> linu: Well, so then you'd need to purchase a legitimate Windows someplace.
[06:19] <Ari-Yang> linu: or use DaxLoader.... which tricks windows to thinking it's been activated
[06:20] <genii> !piracy
[06:20] <kali_eskrima> @ Ari-Yang what it means !LTE
[06:21] <Ari-Yang> '>__>
[06:21] <Ari-Yang> kali_eskrima: pardon?
[06:21] <rainbowwarrior> aww the coffee gone :(
[06:21] <Tyler> test
[06:21] <reisio> awe
[06:21] <kali_eskrima> you mendtioned before tree words with exclamatory sign? what it means?
[06:21] <plut0> pfifo: yeah i should be around tomorrow
[06:22] <Ari-Yang> !LTS > kali_eskrima
[06:22] <genii> Tyler: Yes, we see what you type
[06:22] <Ari-Yang> !EOL > kali_eskrima
[06:22] <Tyler> thanks I haven't used this before so just getting used to it
[06:23] <genii> kali_eskrima: The ! makes ubottu try to look up a fun fact about whatever comes after the !
[06:23] <Tyler> Is there a spiceworks it channel?
[06:24] <reisio> Tyler: /msg alis list *spiceworks*
[06:25] <rainbowwarrior> anyone seen my brain there was something i wanted to ask, but now i forgot what it was lol :(
[06:25] <Ari-Yang> !offtopic > rainbowwarrior
[06:25] <oilerff> go to #physics and find it
[06:26] <kali_eskrima> so when do u use ! and where do u use it?
[06:26] <rainbowwarrior> lol oilerff
[06:26] <Tyler> Thank you reisio
[06:27] <oilerff> lol
[06:28] <kali_eskrima> and how do i add two different partitions. im in the program of "installation type" and new partiion. i have /dev/sda and free space 750156 mb options. what next? add????
[06:29] <kali_eskrima> anyone knows?
[06:31] <Tyler> I typed /msg alis list spiceworks and nothing happens what am i doing wrong?
[06:32] <genii> Tyler: I'd just suggest to join #spiceworks and ask there
[06:32] <tozen> kali_eskrima: what the matter?
[06:33] <kali_eskrima> anyone knows where can i get more help on my installation of ubuntu and partition creating?
[06:33] <hasnoidea> hey all, all of a sudden the script that happily rotated my display on lightdm startup stopped working on my uptodat  12.04 desktop, what can possibly be wrong? I'm just running "xrandr -o left" in the script specified via display-setup-script in my /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf file
[06:33] <kali_eskrima> @tozen   Plenty matters but i was wondering how do u create the partition, actuall 2, on the installation type..
[06:33] <kali_eskrima>  how do i add two different partitions. im in the program of "installation type" and new partiion. i have /dev/sda and free space 750156 mb options.
[06:34] <kali_eskrima> @tozen that was for you, the copied text. thanks
[06:35] <kali_eskrima> by the way why the 12.04 is always crashing?
[06:36] <tozen> kali_eskrima: well my 12.04 never crashed
[06:36] <kali_eskrima> that was in the first place the reason i upgraded to 12.10, when everything crashed. i didnt touched anything but just restart the pc for installing 12.10.. weird!!!!
[06:36] <tozen> kali_eskrima: what distro do u hava?
[06:36] <tozen> *have
[06:37] <useelin> hi all. how effective block inciming udp port?
[06:37] <Valdus> all:  anyone have a good guide to securing ubuntu?
[06:37] <kali_eskrima> its not program itself, its just here and there will give me the error messages and i send it
[06:37] <kali_eskrima> what is distro?
[06:37] <Valdus> 12.04 LTS
[06:37] <tozen> kali_eskrima: 12.04, 12.10, 13.04, 13.10?
[06:37] <oilerff> distribution
[06:38] <reisio> Valdus: against what?
[06:38] <Praka> hello
[06:38] <useelin> and how see chat history all
[06:38] <kali_eskrima> i had 12.04
[06:39] <kali_eskrima> upgraded to 12.10...............my sistem crashed. didnt wont to work, just black screen with underscore
[06:39] <kali_eskrima> didnt got much help, so i finally found how to reinstall to 12.04
[06:39] <Valdus> reisio: just general stuff, I'm not thinking of anything specific.
[06:40] <kali_eskrima> im new to ubuntu and i maybe know 5% of it, so im sorry for ignorance
[06:41] <tozen> kali_eskrima: here is link about partitioning: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowtoPartition
[06:42] <Valdus> reisio: I don't know much about OS vulnerabilities.  I want to learn about what potential vulnerabilites are out there for ubuntu so i can secure my box
[06:42] <reisio> mmm
[06:43] <Ben64> Valdus: depends what you plan to run on it
[06:43] <Gentoo64> ubuntu comes with apparmor which can contain an attacker, maybe worth learning
[06:44] <helmut_> hi
[06:44] <reisio> IME you don't learn much from docs on securing systems, as they don't really explain why what they tell you to do is useful
[06:45] <reisio> all the most informed security experts spend all their time trying to break things
[06:45] <reisio> helmut_: hi
[06:45] <Valdus> Ben64: As of now I'm probably just going to be running stuff like virtualbox, pidgin, skype, firefox, chrome, bitcoin, wireshark, rhythmebox, and thunderbird
[06:45] <Gentoo64> Valdus: keep it all up to date
[06:45] <Gentoo64> that will help
[06:45] <Ben64> Valdus: usually its the server type stuff that has vulnerabilities
[06:46] <Valdus> Gentoo64: I'll checkout apparmor, sounds interesting
[06:46] <Gentoo64> not really, but that allows people to remotely exploit
[06:46] <Ben64> Valdus: you should be safe, but i'd recommend adblockplus, and to avoid shady websites and running strange commands or executables
[06:46] <bigkrex> honestly if security is a real concern check out #openbsd
[06:46] <Ben64> Gentoo64: thats what i mean
[06:46] <Ben64> bigkrex: please don't
[06:46] <Gentoo64> adblock wont help against vulnerabilitys
[06:47] <Gentoo64> or you mean noscript
[06:47] <Ben64> it'll help against bad flash ads
[06:47] <Valdus> oh yea, i need to get noscript, thanks for reminding me
[06:47] <Gentoo64> firefox and chromium are really secure browsers
[06:47] <Ben64> yeah, don't use IE :P
[06:48] <Valdus> Ben64: is there an HTTPSalways plugin for firefox or chrome so I don't accidently use http?
[06:48] <Gentoo64> https everywhere
[06:48] <Valdus> Gentoo64: thanks
[06:48] <Valdus> Gentoo64: and on a side note, do you guys happen to know how to get pentadactyl working with the newer firefox hahah?
[06:49] <Valdus> or do i need to downgrade?
[06:49] <Gentoo64> no idea
[06:49] <reisio> Valdus: it doesn't work?
[06:49] <tcatsunent> i am the system admin at my company;just started, and i got a temperature alert emailed  that shows the server room to be two degrees over its preset limit
[06:49] <Valdus> reisio: won't let me install the plugin with firefox 24
[06:49] <tcatsunent> is this something i should be really worried about?
[06:49] <Gentoo64> tcatsunent: depends how stable the temp normally is
[06:50] <reisio> Valdus: hang on
[06:50] <Gentoo64> tcatsunent: 2 degrees isnt a lot
[06:50] <darkXplo_> hii anyone can help me with UPW
[06:50] <reisio> Valdus: http://dpaste.com/1407279/plain/
[06:50] <darkXplo_> UFW
[06:50] <tcatsunent> i haven't been there long enough to know i just wasn't sure if it warranted me going to work on my day off to turn down the thermostat in the office or something
[06:50] <Gentoo64> darkXplo_: what do you want to know
[06:50] <aeon-ltd> tcatsunent: there are too many things that could cause a 2 degree change in temp
[06:51] <tcatsunent> well it was cold most the week so my guess is someone turned up the heat and now that today was a warm day that is probably the cause
[06:51] <Ben64> tcatsunent: really not a question for #ubuntu but you should start worrying if it keeps going up
[06:52] <darkXplo_> i had installed UFW on my server.. i can disable ports.. but when a ufw status is done it gives a ufw-init error
[06:52] <Valdus> reisio: thnx i'll try that
[06:52] <tcatsunent> yeah this just the first channel i added, thank you
[06:53] <darkXplo_> @Gentoo64 i had installed UFW on my server.. i can disable ports.. but when a ufw status is done it gives a ufw-init error
[06:53] <darkXplo_> any idea?
[06:53] <Gentoo64> doesnt ubuntu come with ufw on server
[06:54] <darkXplo_> yes its already there by default.. but i did an upgrade though
[06:54] <Gentoo64> no idea
[06:55] <darkXplo_> hmm ok
[06:55] <darkXplo_> first time im here.. and it starts good already
[06:56] <darkXplo_> netstat -antpl
[06:56] <darkXplo_> huh.. fuck.. error
[06:57] <Blacksheep9> Guys can someone please help me with the sound.
[06:58] <Valdus> didn't work :/
[07:01] <bigkrex> what's the next LTS?
[07:01] <aeon-ltd> Blacksheep9: describe it the best you can in one line
[07:01] <Calinou> bigkrex: 14.04 (april 2014)
[07:02] <bigkrex> thx
[07:02] <Calinou> LTS are released every 2 years, and are supported for 5 years
[07:02] <nn0101> darkXplo_: there's a very simple fw gui for new users called firestarter
[07:06] <darkXplo_> nn0101 im using ubuntu on VPS so i dont have access for GUI..
[07:07] <darkXplo_> ubuntu-server on VPS
[07:07] <darkXplo_> just ssh
[07:07] <aeon-ltd> ssh -x?
[07:08] <oilerff> GlemSom brings happiness to the world. 16.7% lines contained smiling faces. :)
[07:08] <oilerff> rainbowwarrior isn't a sad person either, smiling 11.1% of the time.
[07:08] <oilerff> rainbowwarrior seems to be sad at the moment: 22.2% lines contained sad faces. :(
[07:08] <oilerff> kali_eskrima is also a sad person, crying 3.0% of the time.
[07:08] <FloodBot1> oilerff: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:08] <aeon-ltd> !xforwarding
[07:09] <ese> hi, am looking for a theme with black background everything, the white background hurts my eyes, any ideas? thank you
[07:09] <darkXplo_> ya
[07:09] <Ben64> oilerff: ?
[07:09] <oilerff> Ben64, those were ubuntu IRC statistics
[07:09] <Ben64> please don't do that here
[07:09] <reisio> ese: http://art.gnome.org/themes
[07:10] <oilerff> Ben64, is it harmful to the community?
[07:10] <Ben64> its offtopic, irrelevant, and spam
[07:11] <oilerff> It's not off topic. It pertains directly to the IRC channel. Relevancy is something I addressed in the previous sentence. And it most assuredly isn't a Stupid Pointless Annoying Message.
[07:11] <aeon-ltd> ese: if the white backgrounds hurt your eyes you should consider lowering the brightness of you monitor
[07:11] <aeon-ltd> oilerff: not support related = 99% is offtopic
[07:12] <PatrickDickey> oilerff: Exactly how does knowing rainbowwarriors mood (based on his emoticons) help me with my ubuntu issue?
[07:12] <aeon-ltd> 99% of the time it is offtopic
[07:12] <Ben64> oilerff: the topic is Ubuntu support, how many times someone did :) is not related. don't do it.
[07:13]  * PatrickDickey plus I'd imagine that if you're not an owner, moderator, or offical bot, using scripts in the room is probably forbidden
[07:13] <oilerff> Oh, this wasn't an IRC script.
[07:14] <oilerff> Logging is permissible unless stated otherwise, just going by general IRC convention
[07:14] <Ben64> this is not a hard concept. don't post stuff like that in here. it is offtopic.
[07:14] <whatever_42> have there been some changes between 11.04 and 12.04 regarding pwm? under 11.04 i was able to control my fan yet in 12.04 pwmconfig claims that it did not find any sensors nor fans
[07:15] <wilee-nilee> whatever_42, you install lm-sensors?
[07:15] <Ben64> whatever_42: you may need to install lm-sensors or something similar first
[07:16] <whatever_42> i was hoping i had done this but i am not sure so i'll check that hang on
[07:17] <whatever_42> lm-sensors is installed
[07:18] <wilee-nilee> whatever_42, you run it?
[07:18] <ese> reisio, that web of art.gnome.com is not downloading any item, but thanks anyways, you know a theme completly black, including firefox, browser, etc with a black background?
[07:18] <PatrickDickey> whatever_42: have you run sudo sensors-detect?
[07:18] <reisio> ese: I recommend you install xcalib
[07:18] <reisio> ese: and map 'xcalib -i -a' to a keyboard shortcut
[07:18] <wilee-nilee> whatever_42, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SensorInstallHowto
[07:18] <whatever_42> PatrickDickey: did not run that.
[07:19] <PatrickDickey> whatever_42: http://askubuntu.com/questions/22108/how-to-control-fan-speed might help you then.
[07:19] <aeon-ltd> ese: IME go for grey not black it's a lot 'softer' on the eyes
[07:19] <dwwddw> how to install nvidia drivers on ubuntu 13.04?
[07:19] <dwwddw> !nvidia
[07:19] <aeon-ltd> !nvidia
[07:19] <aeon-ltd> dwwddw: wut? if you knew how why ask?
[07:20] <whatever_42> do i want to add the result to /etc/modules @ sensors-detect?
[07:20] <_tanmay> dwwddw try bumblebee
[07:21] <dwwddw> aeon-ltd: cuz I don't know how to install them anyway ;d is that for 13.04?
[07:21] <PatrickDickey> whatever_42: At the end of sensors-detect, it should ask if you want to add those to /etc/modules. Say "yes" or you can add them yourself.
[07:21] <dwwddw> and btw what means kvm disabled by bios?
[07:21] <whatever_42> PatrickDickey: do i need to run some other programs before pwmconfig?
[07:22] <whatever_42> PatrickDickey: nevermind i'll to that sensors install how to
[07:22] <PatrickDickey> dwwddw: That means that something in your bios is turning off any virtualization capabilities. Probably not important, unless you're running vm's.
[07:23] <dwwddw> PatrickDickey: okay, but how to install the nvidia driver it's not like in the previous versions of ubuntu
[07:23] <PatrickDickey> dwwddw: Did you look at the wiki that the bot gave you?
[07:23] <dwwddw> PatrickDickey: yes
[07:23] <whatever_42> solved it. thank you guys
[07:23] <ese> reisio, xcalib rocks but the pictures and movies looks terrible
[07:24] <dwwddw> PatrickDickey: Note: In newer version of Ubuntu, older graphic adapters may not be supported with the repositories provided driver.
[07:24] <dwwddw> PatrickDickey: I can't find Additional Drivers on ubuntu 13.04
[07:24] <Ari-Yang> dwwddw: it's under 'software sources' in settings
[07:24] <Ari-Yang> there's an 'additional drivers' tab, dwwddw
[07:25] <dwwddw> Ari-Yang: yes I know and there's nothing
[07:25] <Ari-Yang> oh
[07:25] <PatrickDickey> dwwddw: Did you open Software Sources? It should be the last tab. (Software Updates --> Settings --> last tab.
[07:25] <dwwddw> PatrickDickey: yes already done a few times and there's nothing on this tab
[07:25] <dwwddw> PatrickDickey: that's why I am asking here
[07:25] <Valdus> all: for backing up ubuntu, can i just use the built in backup system under system settings? or is there something better?
[07:26] <wilee-nilee> !backups
[07:26] <kongthap> when i use apt-get install it means i download a executable or binary or source code???
[07:27] <Ari-Yang> kongthap: take a look at man apt-get in terminal
[07:27] <wilee-nilee> kongthap, an app, and if you have the source part of the soures.list on the source as well.
[07:27] <Valdus> ubottu: do you know if the built-in backup system under system settings is reliable?
[07:27] <PatrickDickey> dwwddw: Did you go into the sub-wiki article about NVidia drivers at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[07:28] <dwwddw> PatrickDickey: yes I am there
[07:28] <Valdus> all is the built-in backup systemunder system settings reliable?
[07:28] <wilee-nilee> Valdus, what are you trying to backup, home or the OS?
[07:28] <Valdus> wilee-nilee: root directory /
[07:28] <kongthap> thanks
[07:29] <Valdus> wilee-nilee: should i just backup home?
[07:29] <PatrickDickey> dwwddw: The suggestion I would give you first, is to check the nvidia website to see if they have drivers for your card.
[07:29] <dwwddw> hmm okay
[07:29] <wilee-nilee> Valdus, I would clone it myself. Some only want home saved, so wothout you saying how are we to know.
[07:29] <darkXplo_> guys a UFW status works on my server but when i do a ufw reload it gives a ufw-init error
[07:29] <kongthap> how to backup "everything" on ubuntu, any software???
[07:30] <dwwddw> PatrickDickey: it seems like they have
[07:30] <gordonjcp> darkXplo_: pastebin the full error
[07:30] <wilee-nilee> kongthap, You can clone it with clonezilla is one way.
[07:30] <dwwddw> PatrickDickey: http://www.geforce.com/drivers/results/67567
[07:30] <phunyguy> kongthap: take a look at backintime
[07:30] <darkXplo_> @kongthat u coould do a partition for the /home
[07:30] <phunyguy> !info backintime
[07:30] <phunyguy> :-/
[07:30] <gordonjcp> kongthap: what exactly are you trying to do?
[07:30] <Valdus> wilee-nilee: Cloning is what i would like to do
[07:30] <PatrickDickey> Valdus: my "persona" opinion is back up /home, and any configuration files that you modify. The rest either comes with your installation, or you can reinstall.
[07:30] <wilee-nilee> !find backintime
[07:31] <phunyguy> thanks.
[07:31] <darkXplo_> gotdonjcp : https://gist.github.com/anonymous/fe32e9382d05af47797c
[07:31] <Valdus> wilee-nilee:thanks
[07:31] <PatrickDickey> dwwddw: If that's the driver for your card, then you can download it from there. It *should* be a shell script that you can run to install (or a .deb file that you can install).
[07:31] <kongthap> gordonjcp: you meant what i wanna do for the backup??
[07:32] <gordonjcp> kongthap: well, tell us the whole story
[07:32] <dwwddw> PatrickDickey: okay I'll install it manually and how to remove the nouveau? :P
[07:32] <darkXplo_> je commence en avoir marre la
[07:32] <gordonjcp> kongthap: why do you need to back everything up, and what do you want to do?
[07:33] <comptroller> Hi all. I'm having an issue where Additional Drivers sees no video drivers for my cards, and when I installed FGLRX via terminal and ran aticonfig --initial, it claims I have no supported adapters. I have two ATI HD 3870's running in a crossfire config, and I need proprietary drivers for gaming.
[07:33] <PatrickDickey> dwwddw: That's in the link on BinaryGuide to Nvidia drivers. "Removing nouvea"
[07:33] <darkXplo_> kongthap u can do a partition for /home
[07:33] <gordonjcp> darkXplo_: started getting tired of what?
[07:33] <dwwddw> PatrickDickey: okay thank you very much have a nice day :)
[07:33] <PatrickDickey> !fr | darkXplo_
[07:33] <darkXplo_> loll
[07:33] <darkXplo_> ok
[07:33] <dwwddw> PatrickDickey: I'll try it later when I boot my ubuntu, cuz I got it on another partition
[07:33] <darkXplo_> im speaking english only
[07:34] <PatrickDickey> lol sorry. I only saw the one comment in French. :)
[07:34] <kongthap> gordonjcp: i'm new to ubuntu and i have setup so many things on it right now, so i just wanna backup everything if my HD fails i can restore things back.
[07:34] <eInstaller> Hi! "sudo apt-get update" get stuck at: "90% [Connecting to se.archive.ubuntu.com (130.239.18.163)]" Any ideas why? I can ping se.archive.ubuntu.com with response.
[07:34] <kongthap> darkXplo_: tell me more please
[07:34] <PatrickDickey> dwwddw: Good luck. I'll tell you that I've only got one nvidia card on my computers, and it's on a 12.04 system. So I'm honestly not sure about their drivers.
[07:34] <gordonjcp> mhadainn mhath, mac-màthair
[07:34] <gordonjcp> !gd | gordonjcp
[07:35] <darkXplo_> kongthat do this on your terminal >> sudo apt-get update && upgrade
[07:35] <gordonjcp> kongthap: okay
[07:35] <gordonjcp> kongthap: well there are two things there
[07:35] <gordonjcp> kongthap: you can take a list of all the packages you installed, and just script reinstalling from scratch
[07:35] <PatrickDickey> eInstaller: it could be anything. Since you're able to ping it, it's probably latency between your computer and their server. It's nothing that we can fix though.
[07:35] <gordonjcp> kongthap: and if you keep /home on a separate partition it's really easy to just back that up and ignore the rest
[07:36] <gordonjcp> kongthap: for normal desktop use, backing up /home is generally sufficient
[07:36] <kongthap> gordonjcp: sounds good
[07:36] <eInstaller> PatrickDickey: Ok. So it should be temporary then?
[07:36] <gordonjcp> kongthap: here's the clever bit - do you remember seeing an option for LVM when you installed?  Did you use it?
[07:36] <PatrickDickey> eInstaller: yep. Should be.
[07:36] <darkXplo_> any root ninja here
[07:36] <darkXplo_> ?
[07:36] <gordonjcp> I shudder to think what a root ninja is
[07:37] <kongthap> gordonjcp: sorry i don't recognize what you said at all :(
[07:37]  * PatrickDickey played fruit ninja once...
[07:37] <gordonjcp> kongthap: okay, well anyway read up on LVM
[07:37] <kongthap> gordonjcp: LVM -> linux virtual machine???
[07:37] <gordonjcp> no, Logical Volume Manager
[07:37] <kongthap> gordonjcp: 555
[07:37] <darkXplo_> haaa
[07:37] <kongthap> gordonjcp: sorry
[07:37] <gordonjcp> the one thing you have problems with on *all* systems when you back up is stuff changing during the backup
[07:38] <gordonjcp> LVM allows you to snapshot a drive
[07:38] <gordonjcp> subsequent changes don't show up in the snapshot
[07:38] <kongthap> gordonjcp: i will read from it first...i will ask more later, because right now i know nothing about it
[07:38] <gordonjcp> so you snapshot your /home partition, back up the snapshot, and while that's taking place you're merrily making changes to /home
[07:38] <gordonjcp> your changes made after the snapshot may be lost, but no biggie
[07:39] <kongthap> gordonjcp: you don't recommend to use anything in "back in time" right?
[07:39] <comptroller> Hi all. I'm having an issue where Additional Drivers sees no video drivers for my cards, and when I installed FGLRX via terminal and ran aticonfig --initial, it claims I have no supported adapters. I have two ATI HD 3870's running in a crossfire config, and I need proprietary drivers for gaming. When I do a lspci -vvnn | grep VGA, I get the following output: http://pastebin.com/Vk2QmCrZ
[07:39] <darkXplo_> https://gist.github.com/anonymous/b8bb6d2c63eaf83ba1ec
[07:39] <gordonjcp> kongthap: I'm not sure if there's a time machine-like backup system
[07:39] <gordonjcp> kongthap: time machine is great on Macs, I love it
[07:39] <gordonjcp> well
[07:39] <gordonjcp> I love it when I'm plugged into gig ethernet, over wifi it's just annoying ;-)
[07:40] <gordonjcp> and over the VPN it's just *painful*
[07:40] <kongthap> gordonjcp: i don't concern much about files, i most concern about all setting and app
[07:40] <gordonjcp> kongthap: okay, then take a backup of /etc where the config files are, and a dump of what packages are installed
[07:40] <gordonjcp> kongthap: and then if you want to automate installing like if you had a bunch of machines, look into kickstart ;-)
[07:41] <darkXplo_> Firewall not enabled (skipping reload)
[07:41] <kongthap> gordonjcp: after doing it, the "snapshot" is bunch of script or something else?
[07:41] <gordonjcp> kongthap: the snapshot is your filesystem at the point in time you froze it
[07:42] <kongthap> gordonjcp: i will ask a few more questions to make myself clear
[07:43] <kongthap> gordonjcp: if i don't concern so much about the files, i just have to back up "/etc", i can restore all setting and installed app when ever i have a problem???
[07:44] <noxrandr> hey all, I used to rotate my display when lightdm starts by executing an appropriate script which runs xrandr -o left
[07:44] <gordonjcp> kongthap: well all your settings are in /etc
[07:44] <gordonjcp> kongthap: copying /etc directly over your existing one is probably a bad idea, but you can pick out the important bits
[07:44] <noxrandr> however, all of a sudden xrandr doesn't work in that script anymore, but it still does when I call it manually from within a gnome-terminal, what happened there?!
[07:44] <gordonjcp> kongthap: also, bear in mind that a lot of programs save user-specific config in your home directory, in hidden files
[07:45] <kongthap> gordonjcp: for example if i copied "/etc/apache2/" to the new machine, i don't have to install and setup apache2, the apache2 just can run smoothly???
[07:46] <kongthap> gordonjcp: so there may be somewhere else to keep the config files
[07:46] <kongthap> gordonjcp: ok i think i must read LVM first
[07:46] <gordonjcp> kongthap: you'd still need to install the apache2 packages
[07:47] <gordonjcp> kongthap: all copying /etc/apache2 across will do is put your old config back
[07:47] <ashtray__> t
[07:47] <gordonjcp> which sounds like it's mostly what you want
[07:47] <kongthap> gordonjcp: otherwise my questions will be too none sense
[07:48] <comptroller> Hi all. I'm having an issue where Additional Drivers sees no video drivers for my cards, and when I installed FGLRX via terminal and ran aticonfig --initial, it claims I have no supported adapters. I have two ATI HD 3870's running in a crossfire config, and I need proprietary drivers for gaming. When I do a lspci -vvnn | grep VGA, I get the following output: http://pastebin.com/Vk2QmCrZ
[07:53] <klander> hi guys. I'm trying to do sudo apt-get install curl but i get an error saying /usr/bin/python does not match the python default version. It must be reset to point to python2.6. how can i downgrade from python 2.7 to 2.6?
[07:53] <poko_haram> hi .. i have questionary
[07:54] <poko_haram> if i need to install windows 7 along side ubuntu .. i have to install any of them first?
[07:54] <Gentoo64> poko_haram: install windows first
[07:54] <gordonjcp> poko_haram: I believe it helps to install windows first
[07:54] <Ari-Yang> poko_haram: yes, install windows first, it would be easier to deal with when you install ubuntu after
[07:54] <poko_haram> if i make partitions in windows 7 encrypted .. will it appear when i work on ubuntu?
[07:55] <paulus68_1> poko_haram: use this guide http://www.dedoimedo.com/computers/dual-boot-windows-7-ubuntu.html
[07:55] <Gentoo64> poko_haram: if you have software to decrypt it
[07:55] <Gentoo64> ie if you used truecrypt you could use that on linux
[07:55] <poko_haram> i will use encryption methods supported inside windows 7
[07:56] <Gentoo64> no idea about grub booting from that
[07:57] <poko_haram> Gentoo64,gordonjcp,Ari-Yang,paulus68_1 thanks appreciating you all
[07:57] <Ari-Yang> np
[07:58] <PatrickDickey>  
[08:01] <paulus68_1> does anyone has an idea on how to install a sata raid on a hp proliant ML310 with ubuntu server 13.04?
[08:07] <PatrickDickey> paulus68_1: http://h18004.www1.hp.com/products/servers/os/certification.html?var1=ML310e%20Gen8 might get you started. I'm not entirely sure though. I got that from googling install sata raid on hp proliant ml310 with ubuntu server 13.04
[08:11] <comptroller> Hi all. I'm having an issue where Additional Drivers sees no video drivers for my cards, and when I installed FGLRX via terminal and ran aticonfig --initial, it claims I have no supported adapters. I have two ATI HD 3870's running in a crossfire config, and I need proprietary drivers for gaming. When I do a lspci -vvnn | grep VGA, I get the following output: http://pastebin.com/Vk2QmCrZ
[08:11] <paulus68_1> PatrickDickey: I've seen that one to but is not getting me anywhere at the moment
[08:14] <jdoles> Is there anyone here who actually knows something about LUKS on LVM for a new Ubuntu installation?
[08:14] <Strit> comptroller, YOu sure the ATI cards are supported by the ATI driver?
[08:15] <comptroller> Strit, according to amd's website. It listed this card on the fglrx page as well... double checking now though
[08:16] <LennyJr> wanting HDMI sound to TV i changed GRUB "radeon.audio=1" now i get hdmi audio out but  now no microphone or earphone or coputer sounds
[08:16] <comptroller> Strit I just noticed its giving me the linux legacy driver, not fglrx: http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/linux/legacy/Pages/legacy-radeon_linux.aspx
[08:17] <comptroller> Strit do I need to install from the blob?
[08:20] <klander> thakns for the help guys! got it to work!
[08:29] <aeon-ltd_> aye
[08:37] <tozen>  aeon-ltd hi! so?
[08:39] <poko_haram> there is something is called cpu software cooler?
[08:39] <Calinou> it doesn't work like that
[08:41] <lotuspsychje> poko_haram: http://askubuntu.com/questions/22108/how-to-control-fan-speed
[08:43] <LLckfan> I am trying to print a document made in Micsoft Office Word on the 3X5 index card. I have used tried both orientation. And caannot get it to print on a 3X5 index card. Could I have some advice on what I may be doing wrong?
[08:45] <Slart> poko_haram: I've seen some software that downclocks the cpu and makes it run cooler.. in linux there are some applications that control the power management features alread present in the hardware
[08:51] <Strit> comptroller, no idea. :)
[08:51] <aeon-ltd> tozen: what?
[09:22] <nbubuntu> may I know , can a 64bit 12.04.3 install 32bit application ? newbie here
[09:22] <ikonia> nbubuntu: it depends on a few things,
[09:23] <ikonia> nbubuntu: technically yes, 32bit apps will work if the appropriate libraries are there
[09:23] <ikonia> nbubuntu: realisticly, it's case by case, worth checking
[09:23] <nbubuntu> ikonia : hm... Now still deciding whether I should install 64bit or 32bit
[09:23] <ikonia> nbubuntu what 32bit software do you want/need
[09:24] <MonkeyDust> nbubuntu  skype is 32bit only and i have it on my 64bit system
[09:25] <nbubuntu> ikonia : mostly , on video editing or sound editing audacity avidemux and etc , maybe some gaining too
[09:25] <ikonia> nbubuntu: audacituy is 64bit I believe, avidemux, I think too
[09:25] <nbubuntu> MonkeyDust : oh really , thanks , will go for 64bit then , later in case , will install Vbox for 32bit 12.04
[09:26] <ikonia> ah, it's 32bit
[09:26] <nbubuntu> ikonia : will have any noticeable speed improvement over 64bit ? you mean editing software all 32bit hm....
[09:26] <ikonia> nbubuntu doubtful
[09:27] <nbubuntu> ikonia : ah... dont have , make dual booting partition , installing 32bit along with 64bit
[09:27] <nbubuntu> :P
[09:28] <ikonia> I don't think you need to even think about dual booting
[09:29] <nbubuntu> ikonia : any reason ? will it conflict double booting ?
[09:29] <ikonia> no, I just don't think you need 2 seperate OS versions to run that software
[09:33] <_tanmay> Where can I find the source code to  kernel libraries on my system?  I'm looking for the source code of the pthread_create() function.
[09:35] <nbubuntu> ikonia : maybe , for compatibility , 32bit wider on libraries . So , does 64bit have a large noticeable different on speed compare to 32bit ? 50% increase boot time or on multitasking ?
[09:35] <ikonia> no
[09:35] <ikonia> nbubuntu: you won't notice a difference
[09:37] <nbubuntu> ikonia : oh really , thank anyway.Will go on 32bit. :D thank you again :)
[09:37] <ikonia> nbubuntu: how much ram do you currently have in the machine ?
[09:37] <nbubuntu> ikonia : 8GB
[09:37] <ikonia> nbubuntu: ok, I would use a 64bit install then
[09:38] <nbubuntu> ikonia : yeh , 32bit limited to 3.4gb
[09:39] <aeon-ltd> not with pae
[09:39] <nbubuntu> ikonia : cases , can a 32bit install on 64bit ? when comes with window part , you can install 32bit on 64bit apps it
[09:39] <postmodern> if i install the ruby1.9.3 package, do i have to run update-alternatives or will apt handle that for me?
[09:43] <AndChat419124> hi
[09:44] <AndChat419124> anyone here ?
[09:44] <cfhowlett> AndChat113609, yes.
[09:44] <AndChat419124> nice ??
[09:44] <AndChat419124> is there night now ?
[09:45] <AndChat419124> I English is poor
[09:46] <nbubuntu> ikonia : gtg , will decide later again :) thanks
[09:46] <AndChat419124> yeah
[09:47] <AndChat419124> nice place ,I love here ..
[09:47] <cfhowlett> !details|AndChat113609,
[09:47] <LLckfan> I am trying to print a document made in Micsoft Office Word on the 3X5 index card. I have used tried both orientation. And caannot get it to print on a 3X5 index card. Could I have some advice on what I may be doing wrong?
[09:47] <cfhowlett> !topic|AndChat113609,
[09:51] <chmac> I've added eth1 to /etc/network/interfaces, but the default route for that subnet is not being added automatically. Do I need to configure that somewhere else?
[09:51] <Svetlana> NetworkManager may be interfering. Can you turn it off or do you need it for something else?
[09:52] <chmac> Svetlana: Ah, sorry, it's a server machine, no X :-)
[09:52] <Svetlana> #ubuntu-server maybe?
[09:52] <chmac> It's weird, I have two machines, both 12.04 lts server, and one works, one doesn't.
[09:53] <AndChat419124> hardware driver ??
[09:53] <chmac> But maybe I tweaked some config on the other machine that I've since forgotten about...
[09:54] <Svetlana> You may want to pastebin your config. If you started it with a server edition the other channel would help you.
[09:54] <Svetlana> Your interfaces file I mean.
[09:59] <Frank81> can some one help me i reach always kmemsize limits
[09:59] <Frank81> and i don't know where this uncacheable .... comes from
[09:59] <Svetlana> Frank81: Hi. What error message do you get?
[10:00] <gallonimus> Hi! I have installed u 13.10b2 and I don't have virtualgl in repo (neded to bumblebee). Why?
[10:00] <Frank81> simply no error i run always out of memory
[10:00] <Frank81> i have a limit called kmemsize it is on 32
[10:00] <Frank81> i reach 30 and then no other memexecution happens
[10:01] <Frank81> so i need to reduce kernel size
[10:01] <Frank81> probally my main problem is that i use 64bit :(
[10:02] <Frank81> since that needs 4times more kmemsize then 32bit
[10:02] <Frank81> can't even ssh into the machine i hate that :(
[10:03] <Frank81> maybe i need to use less processes but that isn't as usefull as it sounds like :(
[10:05] <MonkeyDust> gallonimus  13.10 support in #ubuntu+1
[10:06] <gallonimus> thanks
[10:06] <Jordana-Watson> What command can I use to see processes that use internet  ???
[10:07] <LLckfan> I am trying to print a document made in Micsoft Office Word on the 3X5 index card. I have used tried both orientation. And caannot get it to print on a 3X5 index card. Could I have some advice on what I may be doing wrong?
[10:08] <MonkeyDust> Jordana-Watson  start with    lsof -i     then explore lsof some more
[10:09] <Jordana-Watson> !isof
[10:09] <MonkeyDust> Jordana-Watson  no, in a terminal, type    lsof -i
[10:09] <Jordana-Watson> !lsof
[10:10] <Jordana-Watson> MonkeyDust: now what ???
[10:10] <MonkeyDust> Jordana-Watson  depends on what you want to know... have you typed lsof -i in a terminal?
[10:11] <Jordana-Watson> MonkeyDust: thank u very much..now I can kill unwanted processes..
[10:11] <Jordana-Watson> thanks a lot
[10:13] <anonymous> slt
[10:13] <bmr-ubuntu> Alguem por aqui que esteja com problemas ao instalar software do repository do ubuntu?
[10:14] <Svetlana> !pt | bmr-ubuntu
[10:16] <nightdrever> when i do updates i get these errors   http://pastebin.com/WEPe7T2u      any help?
[10:20] <SalahMessaoud> Hi, I have a problem with my huawei E372 3g dongle I can't get it to work in Ubuntu 12.04
[10:22] <Svetlana> nightdrever: ask the Google Chrome folks and the qBitTorrent PPA maintainer. The latter seems to exist at https://launchpad.net/~hydr0g3n/+archive/qbittorrent-stable though so you may have to remove and re-add it. Documentation: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Ubuntu#Third-Party_Software_Tab
[10:22] <nightdrever> thanks Swetlana ill try that soon
[10:23] <Svetlana> (PPAs and Google Chrome repositories are not in Ubuntu by default and whoever hosts them would have to fix these issues. Meanwhile I would recommend to remove the relevant PPAs using the documentation and re-add them using latest available websites for the software they are for.)
[10:26] <Svetlana> I would possibly note that 'chromium' package is almost identical to Google Chrome, but it is entirely free. Whatever difference there is I don't know, the software is mostly the same.
[10:27] <bekks> Svetlana: The difference is: no Pepperflash.
[10:27] <Svetlana> Interesting.
[10:28] <bekks> Svetlana: Thats one of the greatest features of Chrome, since Adobe stopped working on a native flash implementation in favor of PepperFlash.
[10:28] <nightdrever> ok ill just disable deb http://dl.google.com/linux/deb/ stable non-free and deb http://dl.google.com/linux/deb/ testing non-free ????
[10:28] <Svetlana> Is that a name for buildin Flash? I thought Chromium has it.
[10:28] <bekks> Svetlana: Chromium does not have it.
[10:28] <Svetlana> nightdrever, that sounds safe.
[10:28] <bekks> nightdrever: Why do you need testing? Do you know what you are doing there?
[10:30] <Svetlana> bekks, I suppose I must have some Flash installed in a separate package then. It would be strange that Google doesn't make their builtin Flash open-source though; a load of browser issues are caused by plugins, and having a popular plugin builtin could help to isolate these problems somewhat, such as by having the browser look after the plugin being up-to-date enough.
[10:31] <Blacksheep9> Need help with sound. someone please help me.
[10:31] <bekks> Svetlana: Just check "about:plugins" carefully.
[10:31] <Blacksheep9> IM me please
[10:32] <cfhowlett> !detailsBlacksheep9,
[10:32] <cfhowlett> !details Blacksheep9,
[10:32] <bekks> Svetlana: PepperFlash ios not from Google. It is from Adobe. Google just presents the API, and Adobe puts in the PepperFlash Code. And in Chromium, Adobe doesnt do that, since their Flash isnt OpenSource.
[10:32] <cfhowlett> !details|Blacksheep9,
[10:32] <Blacksheep9> sure
[10:33] <Blacksheep9> I am running UBUNTU 13.04 on my Compaq Presario V3000
[10:33] <Blacksheep9> this problem has been same on previous versions too
[10:33] <Blacksheep9> I have the details of the command lspci
[10:34] <cfhowlett> Blacksheep9, as you haven't STATED the problem, we have no idea what you're talking about ...
[10:34] <Blacksheep9> I dont get any sound on my laptop
[10:34] <Blacksheep9> sorry
[10:34] <HumptyDumpty001> How do i downgrade , which all data i need to backup
[10:34] <HumptyDumpty001> 1310 to 1204
[10:34] <mellon> Hi, How can I purge the effects of 'gnome-tweak-tool' after uninstalling it?
[10:35] <Blacksheep9> on the sound card details it says dummy output
[10:35] <Blacksheep9> that is the only one
[10:35] <cfhowlett> mellon, purge settings?  no command for that, but you can manually reset them.
[10:35] <Svetlana> HumptyDumpty001: https://help.ubuntu.com/13.10/ubuntu-help/backup-why.html
[10:36] <Blacksheep9> I also tried installing and running ALSAMIXER
[10:36] <Blacksheep9> its just a blank window with nothing showing inside
[10:36] <mellon> cfhowlett: I can't find the setting files that take effects. It still exists in my system after the software being uninstalled.
[10:37] <sebrock> got an issue with dhclient running too late in boot process. I have services listening to a certain IP that is started earlier. And because of no IP they all fail. I do not want to listen to 0.0.0.0. Can I move the dhclient descovery to be done earlier in boot sequence?
[10:37] <Blacksheep9> Some one has an idea? or need more details?
[10:37] <cfhowlett> mellon, what exact settings do you refer to?
[10:38] <mellon> cfhowlett: the 'gnome-tweak-tool' made some font rendering customizations. I want to purge them.
[10:39] <Galvatron> Hi
[10:39] <SalahMessaoud> Hi, I have a problem with my huawei E372 3g dongle I can't get it to work in Ubuntu 12.04
[10:39] <hwt69love> hi
[10:40] <hwt69love> every body
[10:40] <bekks> !details | SalahMessaoud
[10:41] <wilee-nilee> SalahMessaoud, You run lsusb if it is a usb dongle to see the detailed info and looked on the web?
[10:41] <hwt69love> hi,I'm come in
[10:41] <SalahMessaoud> wilee-nilee, yep I tried few solutions didnt work
[10:41] <wilee-nilee> SalahMessaoud, It helps to know what you have found out and tried.
[10:42] <SalahMessaoud> bekks, I am runnung Ubuntu 12.04 LTS 32 bit I can't see my huawei E372 3g dongle
[10:42] <bekks> SalahMessaoud: You said that. Please do what ubottu told you :)
[10:43] <Galvatron> After playing a Wine game fullscreen my 12.04.3 (kernel 3.8, "Raring" X.org, 7300GT, driver 304.88) started to reset dimpley settings (resolution, refresh rate) after each restart of X.org. I've tried reinstalling the X stack and driver, installing the default kernel and X, removing .config/monitors.xml and nothing. The only "soution" is to use an older Clonezilla image.
[10:43] <SalahMessaoud> wilee-nilee, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6197983/
[10:43] <Blacksheep9> I don't get any sound on my laptop at all. I am running 13.04. I have details of commands such as lspci. I have also tried installing and running ALSAMIXER but it just opens as a blank window. I tried looking up solutions online but its not help to me. Please help!!! SOS.
[10:45] <SalahMessaoud> I have a problem with huawei E372 3G dongle, I'm running Ubuntu version 12.04 LTS 32 bit When I try to use it, I get the following output: nothing it is not available in network manager, but I expected it to work"
[10:45] <Rory> Blacksheep9: Can you please post the output from the command: "lspci -v" on http://paste.ubuntu.com and put the resulting URL in channel
[10:45] <SalahMessaoud> :)
[10:45] <Blacksheep9> sure Rory. thanks
[10:46] <SalahMessaoud> wilee-nilee, I tried usb_modeswitch solution didnt work
[10:47] <wilee-nilee> SalahMessaoud, This is outside my area of general knowledge, I was just trying to get you to give enough info those that might know can work with.
[10:48] <SalahMessaoud> wilee-nilee, ok thank you :)
[10:48] <wilee-nilee> I see people with it working on the web, honestly I would not bother if it did not plug and work myself.
[10:49] <Blacksheep9> No SOUND 13.04 lspci -v results. http://paste.ubuntu.com/6200183/ Rory
[10:50] <SalahMessaoud> wilee-nilee, I have no other choice either make it work or suffer from slow connection :D
[10:52] <Rory> Blacksheep9: Does your laptop or motherboard have a make and model?
[10:53] <Blacksheep9> COMPAQ PRESARIO V3500 it says Rory
[10:55] <rodicio> Hi, when i open in Firefox a private wintow, it's open a popup
[10:55] <Svetlana> Hi. What popup?
[10:56] <ShapeShifter499> hi
[10:56] <RudyValencia> Hi, does the Ubuntu installer use the package settings from the livecd to install the system?
[10:57] <ShapeShifter499> I'm trying to learn spanish and I was wondering how I would type accent marks on various letters on my ubuntu laptop
[10:57] <ShapeShifter499> does anyone here know?
[10:57] <ShapeShifter499> I have a standard US keyboard layout
[10:57] <Slart> ShapeShifter499: on most keyboards you first press the accent and then the letter
[10:57] <ssam> RudyValencia, it copies that installed disk image to your disk, rather individually installing packages
[10:58] <ShapeShifter499> ~n
[10:58] <Rory> Blacksheep9: Please run the command: "gksu gedit /etc/modules" - after entering your password this will open a file in the text editor
[10:58] <Rory> Blacksheep9: Add the line "snd-als100" in new line then save and close the text editor
[10:58] <Blacksheep9> On it
[10:58] <Slart> ShapeShifter499: hmm.. might be another trick to it then.. that works on my keyboard but I'm using the swedish layout
[10:58] <ShapeShifter499> Slart, I see a accent key but it's not working for me....
[10:58] <Rory> Blacksheep9: Then, either reboot, or run "sudo modprobe snd-als100"
[10:58] <dakotawulfy>  RudyValencia you mean like if you setup wireless then install it does it keep the settings
[10:58] <RudyValencia> does it use the settings in /etc/apt/sources.list on the livecd to get the packages though?
[10:59] <ShapeShifter499> hmm
[10:59] <rodicio> Svetlana, http://weeklycareeradvice.blogspot.com.es/
[10:59] <ShapeShifter499> Slart, off to google I go then
[10:59] <RudyValencia> because I don't want to download from archive.ubuntu.com to install :)
[10:59] <Rory> rodicio: Keep your spam somewhere else please
[10:59] <RudyValencia> I'd rather download from ubuntu.osuosl.org
[11:00] <Slart> ShapeShifter499: mm.. it has to be a solution out there.. you're not the first one to want to write accented characters
[11:00] <dakotawulfy> it will only use the dvd if it does not have a net connection
[11:01] <rodicio> Rory, When I open a private window in firefox, it's open that popup
[11:03] <rodicio> Rory, I think its any kind of malware
[11:03] <rodicio> a troyan
[11:03] <MonkeyDust> malware in linux? how exciting!
[11:03] <rodicio> MonkeyDust, yes, but not for me
[11:04] <rodicio> I rubished history and cookies, and the popub go on
[11:04] <MonkeyDust> rodicio  there is no such thing, it must be something else, some setting or option
[11:05] <Svetlana> rodicio, that looks odd.
[11:05] <Svetlana> Rory, he was answering my question, I assumed. (I asked him what popup he gets in his Firefox.)
[11:06] <Svetlana> rodicio, could you create a new user on your system and check for the issue please. Or just create a new Firefox profile to test for it there: https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/profile-manager-create-and-remove-firefox-profiles
[11:07] <petsounds> .quit
[11:08] <Munchkin> Rory it has helped
[11:09] <BlackSheep9> Rory the sound is still not working.
[11:09] <BlackSheep9> I tried sudo modprobe snd-als100 it says "no such device"
[11:11] <BlackSheep9> ERROR: could not insert 'snd_als100': No such device
[11:17] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[11:18] <Svetlana> BluesKaj, hi.
[11:18] <rodicio> Svetlana, MonkeyDust  It was an add-on that's open the popup Thanks
[11:18] <BluesKaj> hi Svetlana
[11:22] <BlackSheep9> I am using COMPAQ presario V3500 running 13.04. There has been no sound whatsoever I tried different solutions online. Someone who knows a solution to this problem please help me.
[11:22] <ShapeShifter499> Slart, fixed :D  I needed to set a "compose key" in settings, that is now "alt gr" on my system.    ñ
[11:23] <BlackSheep9> lspci -v NO SOUND http://paste.ubuntu.com/6200183/
[11:25] <Slart> ShapeShifter499: nice! I think I've done that right after the install on my system
[11:25] <BlackSheep9> anyone?
[11:25] <ShapeShifter499> Slart, so I now have to press "alt gr", then the accent key, then the letter.   If I want "ñ" opposed to "ǹ"  I have to shift+accent key to get it. Which means unless I switch to some spanish layout I won't be typing vary fast once I really learn spanish
[11:25] <BlackSheep9> I am using COMPAQ presario V3500 running 13.04. There has been no sound whatsoever I tried different solutions online. Someone who knows a solution to this problem please help me.
[11:26] <BlackSheep9> lspci -v NO SOUND http://paste.ubuntu.com/6200183/
[11:26] <Paddy_NI> Hey I would like to take Ubuntu Touch for a spin on my Nexus 7 WiFi (2012) model, Should I use a daily build or what is recommended?
[11:27] <cfhowlett> !touch|Paddy_NI,
[11:27] <Paddy_NI> cfhowlett: Thank you I am aware of those resources
[11:28] <ShapeShifter499> Slart, I wish there was a better way then having to stop mid sentence and fumble my fingers to get a accented letter
[11:30] <Slart> ShapeShifter499: you can always modify the keyboard layout and put that ñ on some key you don't really use.. caps lock or something
[11:31] <ShapeShifter499> Slart, oh well better than nothing. I may get a mini bluetooth keyboard with a Spanish layout so I can type a bit faster
[11:35] <prabs> Hi
[11:36] <cfhowlett> prabs, greetings
[11:37] <prabs> cfhowlett i am new to ubuntu
[11:38] <cfhowlett> !details|
[11:38] <prabs> 
[11:38] <goku_> hi all
[11:39] <cfhowlett> goku_, DBZ!
[11:39] <goku_> yes^^ I just installed ubuntu this night around 4:30
[11:39] <goku_> NICK Goku
[11:42] <goku_> already quit like it though I had a few problems installing irc
[11:43] <useelin> how install zipzap firewall
[11:44] <useelin> sry zipzap browser
[11:45] <dadumba> Hi!  KMail and local web apps like drupal and owncloud doesn't work, beecause akonadi doesnt work, because mysql-server-5.5 doesnt start, even with "service mysql restart", nor "dpkg-reconfigure mysql-server". then I tried to reinstall upstart, libjson-c2 libjson0, aptitude install * didnt work, so I tried with aptitude download * which also doenst work, so manual download from arvhice.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/j/libj/libjson-c2 etc a
[11:45] <dadumba> ANY IDEA??
[11:45] <marloshouse> dadumba, start over?
[11:47] <dadumba> @marloshouse do you mean reboot?
[11:47] <useelin> .. and how install and use leopardflower firewall on ubuntu. need help.
[11:49] <TimPlaz> Ubuntu 12.04 newbie.....how to get flash player to work in firefox????
[11:49] <Ardy92> hello
[11:49] <Ardy92> i have a vps
[11:49] <Ardy92> how can install this --> linux-headers-2.6.32-042stab078.26 ?
[11:51] <hitsujiTMO> Ardy92, what company are you with for your vps and what is the output of: uname -r
[11:52] <prabs> Hi
[11:52] <TimPlaz> guess I'm not the only one without flash player...thanks anyways
[11:53] <bekks> Ardy92: ask the support of your vps, wether they provide it or not.
[11:53] <roy_> i need to set up my external monitor in ubuntu studio
[11:55] <goku_> I would help u if I could
[11:55] <goku_> but actualy started with ubuntu this night xD
[11:55] <paulus68_1> does anyone has an idea on how to install a sata raid on a hp proliant ML310 with ubuntu server 13.04?
[11:56] <Rory> prabs: Greetings
[11:56] <R0b0t1> Hi, what is the binary name for the various libreoffice programs?
[11:56] <njsg> libreoffice?
[11:57] <R0b0t1> That launches a window where I pick what I want to do. I'm wanting to launch the writer on its own
[11:57] <Rory> R0b0t1: libreoffice-writer I think
[11:57] <njsg> Rory: perhaps -writer, -calc, ... as parameters, let me check
[11:57] <jrib> Rory: libreoffice --help
[11:57] <njsg> ups R0b0t1 ^
[11:58] <njsg> but it is still one single binary
[11:58] <jrib> R0b0t1: libreoffice --help
[11:58] <njsg> if you have libreoffice-writer that is likely a wrapper script installed in ubuntu
[11:58] <roy_> i need to put my external monitor to the left instead to have the double monitor with same images...but i can't find this option int the monitor panel
[11:59] <njsg> I usually just use xrandr and use --left-of / --right-of
[11:59] <hitsujiTMO> libreoffice --writer
[11:59] <useelin> wich the firewall will advise with advanced gui interface
[11:59] <njsg> also, keep in mind when using older machines that the code from openoffice used one-dash before options, there was a transition at some point, but older versions will likely take "-calc" "-writer" and not "--calc" "--writer"
[12:00] <R0b0t1> hitsujiTMO: thanks
[12:02] <roy_> ok i try
[12:02] <roy_> njsg
[12:03] <dadumba> @roy_ you could also use/install ARandR which is a GUI for xrandr
[12:03] <njsg> I have no experience with graphical interfaces for multiple screen configuration, xrandr should go like xrandr --output [ID HERE] --left-of [ID_HERE]
[12:03] <njsg> as simple as that, should put the screen with the first id left to the one with the second id
[12:03] <roy_> roy@roylinux:~$ xrandr
[12:03] <roy_> Screen 0: minimum 8 x 8, current 2560 x 1440, maximum 8192 x 8192
[12:03] <roy_> LVDS-0 connected 1920x1200+0+0 (normal left inverted right x axis y axis) 367mm x 230mm
[12:03] <roy_>    1920x1200      60.0*+
[12:03] <roy_> DP-0 disconnected (normal left inverted right x axis y axis)
[12:03] <FloodBot1> roy_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:03] <roy_> DP-1 connected 2560x1440+0+0 (normal left inverted right x axis y axis) 597mm x 336mm
[12:04] <njsg> the settings won't persist, though, and if you're using some DE that has its own RandR settings thing, it may try to undo what you did, I guess
[12:04] <njsg> mirroring is the default thing linux does with multiple screens
[12:05] <njsg> as soon as you set them to be on left or on right, it will stop mirroring and will extend the screen
[12:08] <roy_> so what i type?
[12:08] <hitsujiTMO> roy_: goto system settings -> display  ... turn off mirror displays:    might be simpler
[12:11] <njsg> roy_: "xrandr --output LVDS-0 --left-of DP-1", for example
[12:11] <adas> hi i need help with creating a pxe server
[12:11] <njsg> if that is not what you want, just replace "left" with "right" :-P
[12:12] <sebrock> how do I figure out when my networking/dhclient is run at boot? It starts too late
[12:18] <AndChat419124> hi
[12:19] <theadmin> Hello, AndChat419124.
[12:21] <streulma> does ubuntu on a retina display looks good? Does they have retina support with Mir ?
[12:21] <streulma> I don't see any difference between 13.10 screen and 13.04
[12:22] <theadmin> streulma: I don't think the display needs any kind of special "support".
[12:22] <streulma> theadmin: a resolution on 2800 px is not readable :)
[12:22] <mcl0vin> ayone here using nomachine client with ubuntu?
[12:23] <bekks> mcl0vin: Why?
[12:23] <mcl0vin> i am able to remote to my headless server and i can monitor , but i can't control :S
[12:23] <streulma> is there a good tool to change dpi so it looks sharp ?
[12:23] <Gentoo64> streulma: change the font size
[12:23] <Gentoo64> or dpi
[12:23] <streulma> wich ubuntu is best to use on a macbook pro retina? 12.04.3 LTS or the latest ?
[12:24] <mcl0vin> i searched for anykind of option but couldn't find one.
[12:24] <fionnan> I'm using two monitors and can't maintain a full screen youtube or flash video when I focus on a different window. Does this happen to anyone else?
[12:24] <theadmin> streulma: I recommend LTS for all users apart from those who just want to experiment with new features.
[12:25] <streulma> theadmin: I don't need the new features :)
[12:25] <theadmin> streulma: Then use the LTS. It tends to be more stable and has longer support, so you won't need to upgrade often.
[12:25] <mcl0vin> bekks: does this answer your why question?
[12:27] <njsg> (cör
[12:27] <njsg> streulma: set the actual *resolution*, not the screen pixel area
[12:28] <njsg> xrandr can set the dpi, as well as probably graphical frontends for it
[12:28] <ZIPY> is there a logfile for duc (dynamic update client)
[12:29] <njsg> X windows has some issues with some drivers where it won't set the DPI correctly, which may mean it uses the default one. plus, some programs still refuse to obey dpi, notably firefox
[12:29] <Gentoo64> njsg: you mean chromium?
[12:29] <MonkeyDust> !info duc
[12:29] <Rory> When doing full-disk (LVM) encryption during installation, is there any security risk involved with setting your login password to the same or similar as the encryption passphrase?
[12:30] <Gentoo64> firefox has correct dpi for me, chromium has always been odd
[12:30] <Rory> (Assuming both are sufficiently strong)
[12:30] <theadmin> Rory: Not really, nobody will be able to hack into your login password if they can't decrypt the disk.
[12:30] <njsg> Gentoo64: I only know of firefox, I don't use chromium/chrome enough to be able to comment on that
[12:30] <theadmin> Rory: But, if they DO decrypt the disk, they'll have access to your data already and won't be needing your login password
[12:30] <njsg> but firefox used to either ignore it or only respect if it's larger (or smaller?) than the default one
[12:30] <Gentoo64> Rory: and if you're logged in, they already have access
[12:30] <Rory> theadmin: I know, but for example on Truecrypt when making a hidden volume they require that the password for the inner volume be "substantially different" from the outer one, and I was wondering if something similar applied here
[12:31] <Gentoo64> Rory: they say that because obviously its hidden
[12:31] <theadmin> Rory: That's just cause if they were the same it wouldn't be able to tell which one to mount, loses the point
[12:31] <Gentoo64> you dont want the same password
[12:31] <Gentoo64> or it wouldnt work
[12:31] <njsg> Gentoo64: http://kb.mozillazine.org/Layout.css.dpi, see possible values
[12:31] <Rory> theadmin: Not the same, they specifically say SUBSTANTIALLY different
[12:32] <Gentoo64> your meant to use a normal password for the "decoy" and a stron one for the real stuff
[12:32] <Gentoo64> i guess substantially so they wouldnt have any clues
[12:32] <Rory> OK my password is super strong I'm going to go ahead and set it as my LVM encryption passphrase, and my login account
[12:32] <Gentoo64> as to what to guess
[12:32] <theadmin> Rory: Ah, well, I'm not really aware of truecrypt's internals to be honest, but there's a good reason for that anyway... I suppose :D
[12:32] <Rory> Gentoo64: So it's a political, not a technical reason
[12:32] <Gentoo64> as long as the password is good its ok
[12:32] <roy_> njsg!! thanks ! perfetct! sorry but this is my first day in linux! :))
[12:33] <Gentoo64> but the point of a hidden volume is so that you can reveal the password to anyone trying to get in (police or whatever) then they see you got nothing in there making youlook innocent
[12:33] <Gentoo64> so then they wont bother trying another pass (your strong one)
[12:33] <njsg> roy_: now that won't survive reboots, you need something to make that change every time you have a screen connected there, also, you may want to do "xrandr --output THE_ONE_YOU_REMOVE --off" when you remove one, so that it stops extending the screen that way
[12:34] <njsg> roy_: in my computers, I'd just run xrandr manually, or, if there was a permanent second monitor, put it in .xinitrc, but if you use a graphical login screen I think you need to use something else
[12:34] <njsg> as well as that, for some weird reason, the default graphical login manager that comes with ubuntu does not obey .xsession
[12:34] <njsg> nor does it seem to have an option to obey it, last time I was on ubuntu, I just removed it and installed gdm -.-
[12:36] <roy_> ok, i will put manually each time
[12:36] <roy_> another question more difficult to resolve i think...
[12:36] <roy_> i use blender. in the user preferences i can't setup the gpu option
[12:37] <roy_> for the render
[12:37] <roy_> i have a mac book pro with an nvidia graphic card ge force 330m
[12:38] <pl2> Hi guys, I can't seem to get .rm files to play no matter codec package I install. Is there a specific codec for rm?
[12:39] <njsg> what is .rm? real media?
[12:39] <njsg> I'd guess helix packages maybe
[12:39] <hitsujiTMO> pl2: http://askubuntu.com/questions/59585/how-do-i-play-a-real-media-rm-file
[12:39] <njsg> if that's still a thing
[12:40] <njsg> oh, it's part of the package with the codecs, I'd expect something like "helix-lib" :-D
[12:40] <njsg> don't forget to use sleep N before playing these, so that it looks close to the original real player, waiting for a bit before it can play the content.
[12:41] <hitsujiTMO> seems most have discontinued support for RM
[12:41] <kostkon> hitsujiTMO, it's a dead format
[12:41] <pl2> hitsujiTMO, Thank you. But I just ran the command recommened within, and got the output: 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 28 not upgraded.
[12:42] <pl2> kostkon, very dead. Though there are some video I want to watch that were made long ago and there is no other option :(
[12:42] <njsg> I can't say I am surprised, the problem is not being old, the problem is being real media :-\
[12:43] <hitsujiTMO> pl2: you will prob have to install an older version of mplayer or vlc
[12:43] <njsg> one of these formats that was born in the age of "it's fun to create disjoint, incompatible formats that are proprietary and are bundled with lots of bloated software"
[12:43] <kostkon> pl2, have you installed ffmpeg and gstreamer-ffmpeg? maybe then the files will play with the totem and/or totem browser. totem == default media player in ubuntu
[12:43] <njsg> mplayer used to have support for windows codecs, although this may require a 32-bit mplayer
[12:43] <kostkon> totem browser plugin*
[12:43] <njsg> then you could just use the windows codec DLLs
[12:44] <MonkeyDust> pl2  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=834004    <-- 2008 !!!
[12:45] <pl2> MonkeyDust, yeah, all the threads about rm are ancient. I feel like a codec hipster.
[12:46] <roy_> how can i upgrade my video card driver ?
[12:46] <njsg> windows dlls + mplayer support for windows codecs may be the best way to rescue old media; as soon as you get your hands on that, transcode it to some other codec
[12:46] <njsg> roy_: to what?
[12:46] <pl2> njsg, Very true. I remember it being 1995 and asking myself why anyone would make something so terrible
[12:47] <njsg> roy_: from what I understand, even if ubuntu is a versioned distro, you can do "apt-get update" and "apt-get upgrade", to get some updates
[12:47] <njsg> roy_: but if you started today, what do you lack?
[12:47] <roy_> i can't use the gpu with cycles render in blender 2.68a
[12:47] <njsg> pl2: the 90's in the web were a bunch of people reinventing wheels, squared
[12:47] <wotan147> Folks, when one have things like scratchbox, is it possible to login into it and launching a script from , all of this from a script launched on the host system ?
[12:47] <roy_> without gpu option the rendering times are very long
[12:48] <njsg> roy_: maybe blender requires a proprietary driver (argh) -- have you installed that?
[12:48] <roy_> this is my last request for today :)
[12:48] <njsg> proprietary drivers are less stable, more prone to crashes and freezes (that is, "stable" from the point of view of windows users), but they usually provide better 3D acceleration
[12:48] <njsg> roy_: you said you had AMD graphics?
[12:49] <njsg> oh no, nvidia
[12:49] <roy_> njsg you're my mythe... i did the update from the terminal but i'm not sure to did the right think
[12:49] <roy_> i have a nvidia geforce 330m
[12:49] <roy_> amd is better?
[12:49] <njsg> whatever you do, do *NOT* install manually from the nvidia web site
[12:50] <kostkon> pl2, could you give the url of one of those files?
[12:50] <roy_> i think i need to purge all and reinstall new drivers
[12:51] <njsg> roy_: perhaps have a look at http://askubuntu.com/a/307478
[12:51] <njsg> not really sure as I don't use ubuntu at home and I don't use proprietary video drivers
[12:51] <kostkon> roy_, i suppose you would need to have cuda or opencl or something
[12:51] <pl2> kostkon, no url since they're all on disc. I've had them a long time.
[12:51] <kostkon> !find cuda
[12:51] <roy_> yes
[12:52] <kostkon> pl2, ok
[12:54] <kostkon> pl2, i would recommed you to just convert them to a newer format, e.g. use an ffmpeg based converter app from the repos
[12:54] <pl2> kostkon, but will I be able to convert the rm without having the codec that can run it properly? I would definitely go that route..
[12:55] <kostkon> pl2, ffmpeg can encode and decode almost everything
[12:55] <MonkeyDust> pl2  winFF is a nice GUI for ffmpeg
[12:55] <Mermaid> http://www.rublik.com/51fc2d729d4927bb4900054d
[12:56] <pl2> MonkeyDust, Cool, i'll check that out. ffmpeg has a bewildering amount of options.
[12:57] <kostkon> pl2, just convert them to something more convenient, say h264/mpeg4 as avi?
[12:57] <rubic> When I use the terminus font in urxvt, korean and japanese characters are displayed. However when I use terminus in i3 wm they fail to display. Can someone please explain whats going on here?
[12:58] <pl2> kostkon, ANYTHING is more convenient ;)
[12:58] <kostkon> pl2, indeed
[12:58] <viviana1991> ciao a tutti
[12:59] <viviana1991> !list
[13:02] <viviana1991> !list
[13:04] <pl2> kostkon, MonkeyDust, njsg, hitsujiTMO, thanks for taking the time to help, but it seems like ffmpeg can open it either. Seems like it can't create the stream because of the codec. I think I will just download RealPlayer(LOL) and drop into windows. Thanks again
[13:04] <pl2> *can't
[13:04] <njsg> you *need* to have something to handle the coded
[13:04] <njsg> *codec
[13:04] <njsg> just trying different media players won't work
[13:05] <njsg> check the list of supported plugins
[13:05] <njsg> dunno how to do that on ubuntu; here on gentoo as everything is togglable, I can see a list
[13:06] <pl2> njsg, i tried downloading all the codecs, didn't help
[13:06] <hitsujiTMO> pl2: it might be an idea to install ubuntu 10.04 on a virtual machine and try that
[13:06] <theadmin> pl2: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras will give you even the weirdest codecs.
[13:06] <theadmin> pl2: VLC also has built-in codecs so it may be able to handle weird formats.
[13:07] <roy_> i love linux
[13:07] <pl2> theadmin, ran that one already ;) nothing was installed. VLC can't play the file either.
[13:07] <theadmin> pl2: Ah okay, sorry, I was being absent
[13:07] <pl2> theadmin, no worries :)
[13:08] <tilman_> hey guys. I was so crazy and change from ubuntu to ubuntustudio today, and my sound dont run. where i can search drivers?
[13:08] <bekks> tilman_: furst check the obvious - is the sound unmuted?
[13:09] <tilman_> no it isnt
[13:09] <bekks> tilman_: Next, is the sound card detected?
[13:09] <njsg> pl2: if mplayer still supports Video For Windows, you can try downloading real alternative and extracting the dlls
[13:09] <tilman_> where i can see it?
[13:09] <hitsujiTMO> lspci
[13:09] <hitsujiTMO> tilman_: lspci
[13:09] <njsg> if it's PCI.
[13:10] <njsg> or ISA, or PCIe
[13:10] <njsg> but if it's usb, it will definitely not show on lspci
[13:10] <hitsujiTMO> tilman_: lsusb    if its usb :)
[13:10] <jota> hola
[13:10] <floo> hello
[13:10] <bekks> tilman_: lspci will show your wether the card is detected physically, check the sound settings in your ubuntustudio to see wether it is detected logically, too.
[13:10] <mrrcp> gi
[13:10] <jota> inglish?
[13:10] <mrrcp> hi
[13:10] <njsg> nowadays cards are normally Intel HDA, sadly (HDA lacks some features even the cheapest cards used to have, like being able to mix with the output of the card itself)
[13:11] <jota> your spanish
[13:11] <tilman_> ähh? I dont understand?!
[13:11] <tilman_> ahh
[13:11] <tilman_> ok
[13:11] <bekks> tilman_: Whats your native language?
[13:11] <njsg> ehkä #ubuntu-es, if it exists?
[13:11] <tilman_> german
[13:11] <jota> tenkiu
[13:11] <bekks> !de | tilman_ that might help too
[13:11] <floo> anyone here who know more about ubuntu like me?
[13:12] <tilman_> ok thank you
[13:13] <floo> anyone know about ati drivers on ubuntu?
[13:14] <floo> ??
[13:14] <floo> anyone can help me
[13:14] <floo> ?
[13:14] <floo> with a information
[13:18] <roy_> i did it to upgrade my nvidia drivers. but i can't see the gpu option in the render setting of blender. it's possible my geforce 330m is to obsolete for CYCLES render of blender?
[13:21] <semitones> Hello netizens of the interwebs
[13:23] <semitones> what's the best way to have the most bootable isos on a USB drive
[13:30] <MonkeyDust> semitones  there's unetbootin and multisystem, 'best' depends on what you prefer
[13:35] <chinmaya> can anybody help me out in how do i recover the space for ubuntu after deleting the linux mint partition in  the ubuntu linux mint dual boot?
[13:35] <bekks> chinmaya: You have to repartition. And how did you "delete the partition"?
[13:36] <chinmaya> by gparted
[13:36] <chinmaya> linux mint was part of an extended partition with the linux swap
[13:37] <bekks> chinmaya: Then use gparted again, after backing up your system, to resize your ubuntu partitions.
[13:39] <njsg> chinmaya: gparted live cd, remove mint *and* enlarge ubuntu.
[13:39] <njsg> and keep in mind that partition != filesystem, you need to first resize the partition, then the filesystem
[13:39] <Guest24159> hi
[13:40] <chinmaya> is there any other way ? im not in a situation to use the live cd :/
[13:40] <chinmaya> i did try through the ubuntu live cd
[13:40] <chinmaya> no luck
[13:41] <bekks> chinmaya: The error message was "no luck"?
[13:41] <chinmaya> err.. no no..
[13:41] <njsg> chinmaya: you *need* to use a live medium.
[13:41] <njsg> except maybe for ext4, you cannot mess with filesystems that are in use
[13:41] <njsg> and even if you can with ext4, I'd still do it from a separate system
[13:42] <njsg> don't forget that many CD images can be used from USB sticks (usually just a matter of running isohybrid on the image, if it's not already prepared for that)
[13:42] <chinmaya> Disk /dev/sda: 500.1 GB, 500107862016 bytes
[13:42] <chinmaya> 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 60801 cylinders, total 976773168 sectors
[13:42] <chinmaya> Units = sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes
[13:42] <chinmaya> Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 4096 bytes
[13:42] <chinmaya> I/O size (minimum/optimal): 4096 bytes / 4096 bytes
[13:42] <FloodBot1> chinmaya: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:42] <chinmaya> Disk identifier: 0x000b5e20
[13:44] <freannrak> how can I increase the speed of my "mouse" between the keyboard (whatever that small trackball type of thing is in the middle of the keyboard). output of xinput --list: http://dpaste.com/1407570/
[13:45] <newbie|2> I am asking help where I can find it.  I have Ubuntu 13
[13:45] <bekks> newbie|2: Which 13 - 13.04 or 13.10?
[13:46] <floo> i have a laptop asus x51rl with integrated ati radeon xpress 1100
[13:46] <floo> i can find a driver for this.. coz it's move very slowly
[13:47] <chinmaya> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6200750/
[13:47] <chinmaya> this is my partition table
[13:48] <bekks> chinmaya: You still have to use a live cd to change your partitions.
[13:48] <newbie|2> bekks: Is 13.10 already in final release?  I don't "jump the gun", I have 13.04.
[13:48] <chinmaya> okay
[13:48] <bekks> newbie|2: No, 13.10 isnt released yet.
[13:48] <Guest24159> I got kind of a problem with booting Ubuntu 12.04 LTS from network (PXE) using pxelinux. I got the CD contents on a network share (NFS, CIFS) and the PXE part works fine i think. However it fails to mount the network share with NFS because it attempts to use NFSv4, but the server only supports NFSv3 (cannot be changed). So I am looking for a way to either have it use NFSv3 or CIFS.  I already attempted to specify nfsvers=3 in the pxelin
[13:48] <MonkeyDust> newbie|2  in two weeks or so from now
[13:48] <AnAlien> hi guys i thought you might like to know i got everything working
[13:48] <BAMbanda> what would this command do? "cd / && rm -r *"
[13:48] <newbie|2> bekks: It isn't an ubuntu  question ... I'm trying to upgrade my Sony Xperia SP, but can't.
[13:49] <newbie|2> I'm trying to do that
[13:49] <bekks> newbie|2: If it isnt an ubuntu question, you are in the wrong channel :)
[13:49] <jrib> BAMbanda: delete everything
[13:49] <BAMbanda> jrib, and would that happen instantly?
[13:49] <BAMbanda> like would the laptop or computer just die
[13:49] <bekks> BAMbanda: Stop pasting nonsense like that.
[13:49] <jrib> BAMbanda: well almost everything. There would never be a reason to do it.  Try it on a vm if you are curious
[13:49] <bekks> BAMbanda: Yes.
[13:49] <newbie|2> bekks: sorry.  What channel for an upgrade question ... considering I'm using Ubuntu?
[13:49] <MonkeyDust> BAMbanda  i tried it in a testing environment, it does nothing
[13:50] <bekks> newbie|2: Which host OS do you really use? Mint?
[13:50] <BAMbanda> MonkeyDust, what exactly happened?
[13:50] <njsg> BAMbanda: no, it would keep running, except for things that you try to start *after* you do it
[13:50] <maslen> How can I install crypto++ header files? I can't find a package for them, and make install (from http://www.cryptopp.com/#download ) only seems to install the binary files
[13:50] <AnAlien> i gtg
[13:50] <BAMbanda> njsg, so there would be problems on startup. Would grub still load?
[13:50] <AnAlien> bye
[13:50] <njsg> BAMbanda: for example, if you have a text editor open, you can probably continue using it, until it needs to read some additional file (say extensions)
[13:50] <MonkeyDust> BAMbanda  somehow secured by linux internally, i guess, but forget that command, it's unfunny humour
[13:51] <njsg> BAMbanda: depends on whether /boot is mounted or part of /. grub is known precisely for keeping files under the file system
[13:51] <newbie|2> bekks: I have Ubuntu 13.04 and have Virtual Box on it.  Put Windows 7 - 64 bit on it.  Didn't do anything more
[13:51] <njsg> BAMbanda: but all the system would be gone
[13:51] <njsg> BAMbanda: if that is run as root, of course
[13:51] <bekks> newbie|2: Then what do you want to do, actually?
[13:51] <BAMbanda> njsg, hmmm. Thanks.
[13:52] <BAMbanda> And you guys don't have to get upset with me for seeking knowledge. I'm just curious, I've never run it before and I have a right to knowledge
[13:52] <njsg> MonkeyDust: did you try it as root? because that one is definitely not secured.
[13:52] <njsg> MonkeyDust: GNU rm does have protection against "rm -rf /", but just that
[13:52] <njsg> (see --no-preserve-root
[13:52] <njsg> )
[13:52] <newbie|2> bekks: I want to upgrade my cell phone ... it requires I do so by connecting the cell phone to the computer
[13:53] <njsg> to the extent once a guy wanted to demonstrate that and found out that SuSE ships with an older version of the coreutils, which does *not* have --no-preserve-root
[13:53] <bekks> newbie|2: Then you are in the wrong channel, since your issue isnt related to ubuntu at all.
[13:53] <njsg> bekks: uh? what if the phone is going to be updated using ubuntu?
[13:53] <bekks> newbie|2: Depending on your cell phone, you cant update it, since vbox doesnt support all USB multi-personality devices correctly.
[13:53] <bekks> njsg: Is the phone running Ubuntu? No, it isnt.
[13:53] <njsg> bekks: ?
[13:54] <njsg> newbie|2: what phone is it?
[13:54] <njsg> newbie|2: and what kind of update do you need to do with it?
[13:54] <bekks> njsg: He doesnt use a phone running ubuntu - there is no such phone currently :)
[13:54] <njsg> bekks: I am aware, but they may use an ubuntu machine to update the phone...
[13:54] <Ben64> that doesn't fall under ubuntu support
[13:54] <njsg> bekks: don't forget that not every phone runs linux, and some phones need to be updated using external computers...
[13:55] <bekks> njsg: Yeah, but those problems arent ubuntu problems then - they are problems regarding the phone, not ubuntu.
[13:55] <njsg> Ben64: so if someone asks about how to start libreoffice or configure displays, it's not part of ubuntu support because these are third-party applications that are not part of what you really call ubuntu?
[13:55] <newbie|2> njsg: Xperia SP.  I have 12.0.A.1.257.  Sony's site tells me that there is a 12.0.A.2.254
[13:55] <njsg> newbie|2: what's their official update procedure?
[13:56] <Ben64> njsg: theres an obvious difference between those, it's not a difficult concept.
[13:56] <semitones> MonkeyDust, unetbootin can have multiple isos?
[13:56] <MonkeyDust> njsg  i'll try it now as root inside a chroot
[13:57] <MonkeyDust> semitones  yes, it creates some sort of grub
[13:57] <njsg> newbie|2: note that some phones may have a built-in feature to update, if you have a mobile data plan, it may be easier and less problematic to just do that instead of finding how to use linux to do it, or finding a windows machine that can do it
[13:58] <newbie|2> thx
[13:59] <njsg> but start by finding the official method. if you have a spare machine, even using some windows install there may be less problematic. it's a case of "being worth it" to try to do it from linux
[13:59] <Ben64> njsg: come on, take the phone support elsewhere
[13:59] <njsg> all my phones that don't have self-update over mobile data require cables I don't have, so I never thought about it
[14:00] <newbie|2> njsg: The problem is that it tells me that I need to connect the phone to the computer.
[14:00] <agreas> привет
[14:00] <njsg> newbie|2: you likely need to do something on the computer side, too, no?
[14:00] <Ben64> njsg: newbie|2: this is not the right channel for phone support, take it to #android or somewhere else
[14:01] <monkeyjuice> maybe because ubuntu has done a poor job of making it easy to access cell phones
[14:02] <njsg> more because someone doesn't feel like discussing some uses of an operating system in the operating system IRC channel
[14:02] <Ben64> its the rules! take it up in #ubuntu-ops if you'd like
[14:03] <andishe> where is here?
[14:03] <monkeyjuice> its a ubuntu problem not the cell phone
[14:03] <Ben64> monkeyjuice: incorrect
[14:03] <monkeyjuice> so you say
[14:03] <faugusztin> monkeyjuice:  MTP and USB Mas Storage is well supported. Manufacturer specific flashing tools not ported to linux aren't fault of the OS. ADB for Nexus devices work on linux
[14:03] <MonkeyDust> monkeyjuice  no FUD here, please
[14:03] <Ben64> faugusztin nailed it
[14:03] <monkeyjuice> then help him with connection to cell phone then
[14:03] <andishe> are you real people?
[14:03] <jrib> andishe: ...
[14:04] <chinmaya> umm any software for writing an image in a usb? like usb image writer in mint which comes preinstalled?
[14:04] <chinmaya> for ubuntu
[14:04] <njsg> chinmaya: dd?
[14:04] <Ben64> chinmaya: define "image"
[14:04] <chinmaya> writing a .iso file
[14:04] <njsg> chinmaya: dd, definitely.
[14:04] <chinmaya> making a usb bootable
[14:04] <chinmaya> dd
[14:05] <chinmaya> umm
[14:05] <chinmaya> okay
[14:05] <FloodBot1> chinmaya: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:05] <Ben64> chinmaya: i use unetbootin, dd works on certain isos only
[14:05] <njsg> chinmaya: isohybrid from syslinux seems to be able do adapt most of the non-usb-bootable images
[14:05] <njsg> chinmaya: by most, all of them that I've tried
[14:05] <MonkeyDust> chinmaya  try startup disk creator
[14:06] <andishe> any physicist over here?
[14:08] <Guest24159> sry to appear impatient or anything, but does anyone have any idea how to force nfs version 3 for netbooting ubuntu 12.04LTS?
[14:08] <MonkeyDust> andishe  this is ubuntu support, i guess you're not in the right channel
[14:10] <andishe> thanks
[14:14] <busted> I guess some people are just ignored...
[14:14] <chinmaya> btw il run gparted live cd just like ubuntu live right?
[14:16] <dinosaurvskitten> how would you go about debugging a slow wifi connectionn on 13.04? My download speeds peak at 100K/s instead of 1.5M/s, and I'm getting a lot of time outs too. Speed's fine if I boot back into macos (this is a macbook air). The problem happens with both brcmsmac and broadcom-wl drivers. I've disabled ipv6 and mdns already. My only next idea was to switch from nm to wicd, but wicd causes kernel panics. Any ideas?
[14:17] <AgentInfinity> I'm facing some problems with a live usb of Ubuntu 12.10 . it won't boot. The HDD has windows 8
[14:18] <AgentInfinity>  I turned off secure boot
[14:18] <AgentInfinity> And set boot mode to legacy support
[14:18] <hitsujiTMO_> is it showing up in the boot menu?
[14:18] <AgentInfinity> Yes
[14:18] <AgentInfinity> I get a lot of text scrolling up
[14:19] <AgentInfinity> Then a purple screen
[14:19] <AgentInfinity> Then nothing
[14:20] <AgentInfinity> hitsujiTMO_: any help?
[14:21] <xubuntu295> which ubuntu version do you recommend for a Pc with Pentium M 1'6Ghz and 512Mb of Ram?
[14:21] <jrib> xubuntu295: try lubuntu
[14:21] <dinosaurvskitten> xubuntu295: I'd probably go for lubuntu, or not ubuntu
[14:22] <hitsujiTMO_> AgentInfinity, have you tried the same with 13.04? maybe a driver issue in 12.04 ... at least getting 13.04 to boot might indicate if it is or not
[14:23] <faugusztin> AgentInfinity: purple... might try to press Esc, maybe the boot process is waiting for something ?
[14:23] <AgentInfinity> Kk
[14:25] <maslen> How can I install crypto++ header files? I can't find a package for them, and make install (from http://www.cryptopp.com/#download ) only seems to install the binary files
[14:26] <Arytmetyk> Hello here. I'm new and linux and i can't check something. Can you tell me which version of kernel does ubuntu use?
[14:26] <AllanD> whenever my system boots I get the message: Network Discovery Service Disabled - your network has a .local domain - what does this mean - everything works perfectly
[14:26] <maslen> Arytmetyk: uname -a
[14:27] <Arytmetyk> But i didn't install it yet
[14:27] <hitsujiTMO_> Arytmetyk ... uname -r   will tell you your current version
[14:27] <Arytmetyk> And i can't find it in docummentation or something
[14:27] <kostkon> Arytmetyk, which version of ubuntu
[14:27] <Arytmetyk> 13.04
[14:27] <drgx2x> ubuntu
[14:27] <kostkon> Arytmetyk, 3.8?
[14:27] <faugusztin> Arytmetyk: distrowatch has that info :)
[14:28] <jack> raring: 3.8.0-19-generic #29-Ubuntu SMP
[14:28] <faugusztin> Arytmetyk: http://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=ubuntu
[14:28] <jack> dunno about saucy right now
[14:28] <TJ-> Saucy kernel is 3.11
[14:28] <faugusztin> jack: 3.11
[14:28] <jack> k, thx
[14:28] <Arytmetyk> It's bad news for me, becausde my ethernnet card needs 3.10.x or more new. Maybe you want to recommend something?
[14:29] <faugusztin> Arytmetyk: wait 2 weeks for 13.10
[14:29] <jack> saucy salamander then
[14:29] <faugusztin> Arytmetyk: October 17th is the "launch date" for Ubuntu 13.10 with kernel 3.11
[14:29] <faugusztin> or just grab a beta of 13.10
[14:30] <Arytmetyk> Thanky you very much for the info. I will grab a beta version
[14:30] <Arytmetyk> Have a nice day
[14:31] <kostkon> Arytmetyk, you can easily get it from here http://releases.ubuntu.com/13.10/
[14:33] <Arytmetyk> kostkon, thank you once more
[14:35] <chinmaya> and it worked
[14:49] <AgentInfinity> hitsujiTMO_: I have an nvidia gpu
[14:49] <MACscr> any ideas why in the world my statically setup nic would start getting a dhcp ip all of a sudden? http://hastebin.com/naqamiduma.rb
[14:49] <Fenrirsulfr> salut ;)
[14:49] <busted> how can you specify the NFS version to use when netbooting ubuntu 12.04LTS?
[14:51] <TJ-> MACscr: Is the interface managed by NetworkManager, or manually via ifupdown and /etc/network/interfaces?
[14:52] <MACscr> manually. I have 12 new systems and this is the only one that is doing it
[14:57] <TJ-> Mace268: Does the system have only one network interface? And, what is reporting that the IP is coming from DHCP - a log file entry or something else?
[14:58] <AgentInfinity> I need to do a CLI install of ubuntu
[14:59] <AgentInfinity> Need to use gpart for the partitions
[14:59] <AgentInfinity> All cli
[14:59] <AgentInfinity> Need help
[14:59] <TJ-> MACscr:  Does the system have only one network interface? And, what is reporting that the IP is coming from DHCP - a log file entry or something else?
[14:59] <MACscr> TJ-: no, it has 4
[14:59] <TJ-> AgentInfinity: Use the Alternate install ISO
[14:59] <MACscr> TJ-: did you look at the pastebin link i provided?
[15:00] <AgentInfinity> TJ-: not possible man
[15:00] <TJ-> MACscr: I didn't see one... probably came in after you posted the link
[15:00] <AgentInfinity> GUI won't work
[15:00] <TJ-> AgentInfinity: Do a deboostrap install from a Live ISO then
[15:00] <MACscr> TJ-: http://hastebin.com/naqamiduma.rb
[15:00] <AgentInfinity> Ok
[15:00] <AgentInfinity> How?
[15:02] <TJ-> MACscr: OK, so identify which process is starting dhclient from the process list. It looks to me like a residual from the puppet install
[15:03] <tbharath> Hi
[15:04] <tbharath> when I ran ls -l, I got the result drwxrwxrwx 1 root root 12288 Oct  4 19:36 src
[15:04] <MACscr> TJ-: puppet was installed after the fact and not used to initially provision the system. It was though running dhcp after the install before the static ip address was setup. I dont get though why it would behave any differently than the other systems. Ive never changed anything when doing a static ip besides simply editing the network interfaces file and restarting the service
[15:04] <tbharath> I want this change to drwxrwxrwx 1 bharath bharath 12288 Oct  4 19:36 src
[15:04] <tbharath> how can I do that
[15:04] <tbharath> ?
[15:06] <TJ-> MACscr: well, something is starting "dhclient eth1" and the fact it is asking for a specific IP suggests there's a lease file lying around that it is getting that from, its not just trying to get a new lease.
[15:07] <MaximB> I've installed ubuntu 64-bit 13.04 (fresh install), after that i get: file '/boot/grub/i386-pc/normal.mod' not found.
[15:07] <busted> tbharath: chown bharath:bharath .
[15:07] <roy_> hello! ubuntu don't find my bluetooth apple magic mouse
[15:07] <TJ-> MACscr: Are you working with openstack on those systems?
[15:07] <tbharath> busted, I have tried that, but no chnage
[15:07] <MACscr> TJ-: not yet. Going to though
[15:08] <busted> prepend sudo
[15:08] <TJ-> MACscr: OK, so it isn't an openstack issue then :)
[15:08] <tbharath> busted, yeah I have tried that
[15:08] <tbharath> busted, in my fstab I added a line
[15:09] <tbharath> busted, /dev/sda4   /media/bharath/windows  ntfs-3g  defaults,exec,fmask=000  0  0
[15:09] <tbharath> busted, I am trying ls -l in  /media/bharath/windows
[15:09] <tbharath> busted, will that be a problem
[15:09] <bekks> tbharath: you need to set uid/gid in that line to your users pid/gid since NTFS does not support linux permissions.
[15:09] <TJ-> MACscr: I'd be doing "sudo egrep -rn 'dhclient' /etc/* " to find any scripts that might be launching that process, and then I'd extend the search to "/usr/lib" and "/usr/share/"
[15:10] <tbharath> bekks, how can we do that
[15:10] <ActionParsnip> Tbharath: is it a usb drive?
[15:10] <bekks> !ntfs | tbharath
[15:11] <tbharath> ActionParsnip, no, it is a partition in my harddrive
[15:11] <ActionParsnip> Tbharath: ok cool. Just curious
[15:12] <tbharath> !NTFS-3g
[15:12] <MACscr> btw, whats the proper way to restart the network service when you make manual changes?
[15:12] <TJ-> MACscr: "sudo service networking restart"
[15:12] <tbharath> !FUSE
[15:13] <bekks> tbharath: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions is pretty much all you need.
[15:15] <MACscr> TJ-: for some reason I have found that it doesnt always work. Aka, the new ip settings arent applied and i have to run /etc/init.d/networking restart to get more debug info
[15:16] <TJ-> MACscr: "service" is a wrapper to do the same thing... unless the Ubuntu release you're using has the equivilent Upstart script in /etc/init/
[15:16] <TJ-> MACscr: but all they really do is "ifdown -a" and "ifup -a"
[15:16] <MACscr> im just using 12.04 LTS that i installed from iso, so nothing special
[15:17] <jack> TJ-, equivAlent :P
[15:17] <jack> comes from value
[15:17] <TJ-> MACscr: OK, the SYSV init.d script is a bit busier than Upstart on 12.04
[15:18] <Janhouse> I have a laptop with SIS 771/671 video card. I'm unable to start Xubuntu 12.04 without adding acpi=off to kernel line. Without it the graphics go crazy and I'm unable to see what's going on. Any ideas?
[15:18] <TJ-> MACscr: In later versions it's a sym-link to the Upstart jobs
[15:19] <bekks> Janhouse: Blame it on the graphics adapter which is pretty much the worst you could get nowadays.
[15:19] <Tamwyn> Hello, I have a problem with 12.04, i got this error message: Oct  6 17:13:20 Voyager-M15x kernel: [13820.063749] intel ips 0000:00:1f.6: ME failed to update for more than 1s, likely hung 2 times a second in syslog. Everytime when I boot the System I got an Error Messag "Problem with a Systemservice" (Translated) Sometimes (I can't see a reproducable way) it appaears while normal use. Often when working with Thunderbird (it's in the "Autostart") Ha
[15:19] <ActionParsnip> Janhouse: ive only see those work with an xorg.conf file
[15:20] <Janhouse> bekks, I know, I know. But when I run it with acpi=off, it starts. So what messes it up?
[15:20] <Janhouse> I mean, it crashes when X hasn't started yet.
[15:20] <Janhouse> the graphical glitches.
[15:20] <ActionParsnip> Tamwyn: what is the output of: uname -a
[15:21] <Tamwyn> ActionParsnip: Linux Voyager-M15x 3.5.0-41-generic #64~precise1-Ubuntu SMP Thu Sep 12 16:50:04 UTC 2013 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[15:21] <ActionParsnip> Tamwyn: have you checked for bugs?
[15:22] <Tamwyn> ActionParsnip: what do you mean?
[15:22] <ActionParsnip> Tamwyn: it may be a known issue
[15:23] <zerosum> can anyone help with installing ubuntu 13.04 with a usb
[15:23] <TJ-> Janhouse: See bug #44627 ... basically, its a wishlist item but driver support isn't there
[15:23] <bekks> Janhouse: The graphics adapter is just not working with acpi. Thats "all".
[15:24] <Janhouse> bekks, umm...
[15:25] <Tamwyn> ActionParsnip: if the error Message would have more output it coud help, It appeared again, Youst "Recieved A Problem with a System Service" and Would you report it"
[15:25] <MACscr> TJ-: thanks, i deleted those lease files. Will see what happens
[15:26] <ActionParsnip> Tamwyn: report the bug and give as much detail as you can. The bug guys will ask for details from you
[15:26] <Janhouse> bekks, what do you mean it doesn't work with acpi?
[15:26] <TJ-> Tamwyn: See bug #1210848
[15:26] <bekks> Janhouse: Using it without acpi=off causes the problems you described.
[15:27] <Janhouse> acpi=off disable everything.
[15:27] <Janhouse> is there something more speciffic that can be disabled?
[15:27] <Tamwyn> ActionParsnip: TJ- I found a bug like this
[15:27] <Tamwyn> ActionParsnip: modprobe -r intel_ips helped
[15:28] <bekks> Janhouse: Unfortunately no.
[15:28] <zerosum> can anyone help with installing ubuntu 13.04 with a usb, i get to the grub boot menu select install ubuntu, then nothing happens black screen
[15:28] <jack> dutch author :) cool
[15:28] <jack> i'll check it out anyway
[15:28] <ActionParsnip> Tamwyn: ok. Blacklist that module and reboot to test
[15:29] <fdkldfsjdfk> hi
[15:29] <ActionParsnip> Janhouse: do you have the latest bios (if your system has one)
[15:29] <john_____> My Ubuntu software centre never responds, can anyone help? :)
[15:29] <iLikeStrongJava> Which VNC server is used by KVM?
[15:29] <bekks> iLikeStrongJava: kvm built in.
[15:29] <Tamwyn> ActionParsnip: already done
[15:29] <ActionParsnip> Zerosum: what video chip do you use? Does the system have a make and model?
[15:30] <Tamwyn> ActionParsnip: maybe it will fix the other problem too
[15:30] <fdkldfsjdfk> have Ubuntu any support for Atom Z3740D processorç?
[15:30] <ActionParsnip> John_____: if you run: sudo apt-get update ,is it smooth?
[15:30] <zerosum> i have two video chips
[15:30] <fdkldfsjdfk> because 3rd generation of Atoms was W8-only
[15:30] <ActionParsnip> Fdkldfsdfk: yes why would it not
[15:31] <ActionParsnip> Zerosum: oh that optimus switching gpu nonesense?
[15:31] <bekks> fdkldfsjdfk: there is no such processor that is "W8-only".
[15:31] <iLikeStrongJava> Ok.  I've been trying to connect to vm from OS X, but no joy.  I read some forum posts that say people can use the Apple built-in client without prob.  I'm not having any luck.
[15:31] <iLikeStrongJava> Trying to figure out where to start troubleshooting
[15:32] <ActionParsnip> Ilikestrongjava: install the VIC on the system and connect to the server remotely
[15:32] <MACscr> iLikeStrongJava: connect in what way? ssh?
[15:32] <MACscr> or vnc
im such a noob in terms of code i just installed all updates if thats what you mean
[15:32] <ActionParsnip> Ilikestrongjava: i assume you are meaning vmware.
[15:32] <zerosum> Nvidia Geforce Gt 630M and Intel HD Graphics 4000
[15:32] <fdkldfsjdfk> bekks: yes, intel has said that cover Trail atom's are not Linux capable
[15:33] <iLikeStrongJava> Straight VNC for starters.  Default settings, etc.  No ActionParsnip, I mean kvm/qemu
[15:33] <ActionParsnip> John_____: all i asked is does the command run. Its copying and pasting. So being 'noob' has zero bearing here. Does it
[15:33] <cnbox> o
[15:33] <iLikeStrongJava> Does Apple implementation require ssh?
[15:33] <ActionParsnip> Zerosum: yep optimus garbage.
[15:33] <zerosum> ActionParsnip: is that going to be a major problem?
[15:33] <fdkldfsjdfk> UEFI issues on 32 bit for example
[15:33] <ActionParsnip> Zerosum: try the boot option: nouveau.blacklist=1
[15:33] <danielubuntu> hello, I have removed my SWAP partition and made a new SWAP in extended partition, how to configure that?
[15:34] <bekks> fdkldfsjdfk: Do you have any links on Intel actually saying that?
[15:34] <hitsujiTMO_> fdkldfsjdfk more than likely that just means they directly support w8 only
[15:34] <demsad> Hello guys. I need some openvpn service to secure my passwords using public wifi networks. I've found vpnbook, but have read that they use their client's data for their own aims. Can anybody tell me, who has an experience using "vpnbook" service, that it's safe and secure. Or just recommend me another service, which is safe.
[15:34] <ActionParsnip> Fdkldfsjdfk: uefi is nothing to do with processor conpatibility with ubuntu
[15:34] <danielubuntu> ?
[15:34] <john_____> ActionParsnip: Well i dont even have a command console on my toolbar, so being a noob does have a lot to do with it.
[15:34] <ActionParsnip> Fdkldsjdfk: its nothingvto do with the cpu at all
[15:35] <fdkldfsjdfk> hitsujiTMO_: users failed trying to boot W7 disk
[15:35] <ActionParsnip> John_____: searched dash?
[15:35] <danielubuntu> any help?
[15:35] <bekks> fdkldfsjdfk: Do you have any links from Intel proving that?
[15:35] <fdkldfsjdfk> bekks: http://www.extremetech.com/computing/136276-intel-clover-trail-atom-chips-cannot-run-linux
[15:35] <bekks> fdkldfsjdfk: Thats not an Intel link.
[15:35] <danielubuntu> bekks, can u help me?
[15:36] <ActionParsnip> Danielubuntu: add it in /etc/fstab to be swap. You will need to run: sudo blkid ,to get the UUID of the partition
[15:36] <bekks> fdkldfsjdfk: Last sentence of your post: "While Intel stated that Clover Trail “cannot run Linux,” a better way to put it would have been to say that users should not run Linux.".
[15:36] <bekks> danielubuntu: I dont know.
[15:36] <zerosum> ActionParsnip: sorry dont know how to do that
[15:36] <john_____> ActionParsnip: I searched dash for console and run and found nothing.
[15:37] <ActionParsnip> Zerosum: nobody is born knowing either. Try researching online to find out.....
[15:37] <ActionParsnip> John_____: its a terminal.
[15:37] <danielubuntu> ActionParsnip, ok
[15:37] <ActionParsnip> !bootoption | zerosum
[15:38] <danielubuntu> also what to do when removes bash from bin ?
[15:38] <ActionParsnip> !nomodeset | zerosum
[15:38] <danielubuntu> *removes
[15:38] <bekks> danielubuntu: Why do you remove bash from /bin ?
[15:38] <ActionParsnip> Danielubuntu: can you rephrase please
[15:38] <fishcooker> how to list all network interface that all i have?
[15:38] <fdkldfsjdfk> ActionParsnip: that was the answer when someone asked on community forums od Lenovo why his thinkpad tablet did not boot linux (Initdr not found error)
[15:38] <bekks> fishcooker: sudo ifconfig -a
[15:39] <john_____> ActionParsnip: it says nothing matches your search when i search terminal.
[15:39] <zerosum> cheers reading up now
[15:39] <ActionParsnip> John_____: ok press CTRL+ALT+T
[15:40] <fdkldfsjdfk> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2169631
[15:40] <Tamwyn> ActionParsnip: The Kernel Message is away, but the problem is still there and there was now an internal eeror message by Ubuntu caused by ntpd, i have removed it now
[15:40] <fishcooker> thanks bekks.. is it possible to have 2 different frequency 2.4GHz and 5Ghz on one interface?
[15:40] <fishcooker> here i have eth3 eth2 and wlan0 also lo
[15:40] <ActionParsnip> Zerosum: if you are new to Linux etc. There will be a lot you dont know and stating so is worthless. You have a computer attached to the largest human known database. Use it when you dont know something
[15:40] <bekks> fishcooker: If your wifi interface supports it, yes.
[15:40] <fdkldfsjdfk> and there is no legacy mode :(
[15:41] <danielubuntu> bekks, yes
[15:41] <danielubuntu> ActionParsnip, i deleted bash
[15:41] <fishcooker> it means my wlan0 have possibility to do that?
[15:41] <john_____> ActionParsnip: ok sudo apt update seemed to be smooth..
[15:41] <fishcooker> i've costum box here.. it seem strange that i dont have eth0
[15:42] <danielubuntu> bekks, it is removed by mistake
[15:42] <dpy> hi guys
[15:42] <danielubuntu> how to fix?
[15:42] <ActionParsnip> John_____: ok. Does software centre now run ok?
[15:42] <fishcooker> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6201174/
[15:42] <fdkldfsjdfk> i believe that chips aren't exactly designed to "run Linux" or any other OS. It's Linux that supports CPUs, but Intel doesn't want to cooperate
[15:43] <john_____> ActionParsnip: no the window goes grey when i click it
[15:43] <bekks> danielubuntu: Boot a live cd, copy it over again.
[15:43] <ActionParsnip> Danielubuntu: id copy it from livecd. Why are you messing around in /bin at all?
[15:43] <john_____> ActionParsnip: and says not responding
[15:43] <ActionParsnip> John_____: what is the output of: cat /etc/issue
[15:43] <danielubuntu> ok will try with live cd
[15:44] <fdkldfsjdfk> Intel has said that new 4gen Atoms will support Android/Linux
[15:44] <ActionParsnip> Fdkldfsjdfk: intel loves linux :-)
[15:44] <john_____> ActionParsnip: Ubuntu 12.04.3 LTS \n \l
[15:44] <h1n1> Intel love anything they can make money off
[15:45] <ActionParsnip> John_____: try: sudo apt-get --reinstall install software-center
[15:45] <ActionParsnip> H1n1: and why not. All businesses do....
[15:45] <h1n1> Yep
[15:46] <dpy> a long shot, but does anyone here happen to know how to make google chrome/chromium register as a pulseaudio application?
[15:46] <dpy> I would like to patch Google Music through my equalizer
[15:48] <john_____>  ActionParsnip: software catalogue update was successful, however software centre stil crashes
[15:50] <ActionParsnip> John_____: try running it from terminal. The output may give clues
[15:50] <ActionParsnip> John_____: run: software-center
[15:50] <fdkldfsjdfk> so "The 32-bit ISOS do not contain the necessary EFI files" is a false statement Isn't it?
[15:50] <fishcooker> bekks: is it ok that i have not eth0 here?
[15:51] <fishcooker> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6201174/
[15:51] <fishcooker> the wired must be in eth*
[15:51] <bekks> fishcooker: sure. ethX arent wifi devices.
[15:51] <ActionParsnip> Bekks: they can be
[15:51] <fishcooker> how to know ActionParsnip
[15:51] <john_____> ActionParsnip: No command 'run:' found, did you mean:  Command 'runq' from package 'exim4-daemon-heavy' (main)  Command 'runq' from package 'exim4-daemon-light' (main)  Command 'runq' from package 'sendmail-bin' (universe) run:: command not found
[15:52] <ActionParsnip> John_____: think about it...
[15:52] <ActionParsnip> Fishcooker: sudo lshw -C network ,you will see the network controller and its device name
[15:53] <ActionParsnip> John_____: 'run:' is just me saying 'the next bit is the command to run' it's not a command itself
[15:53] <john_____> ActionParsnip: yeah i worked that out, this was the result
[15:54] <john_____> ActionParsnip: 2013-10-06 16:53:04,841 - softwarecenter.ui.gtk3.app - INFO - setting up proxy 'None' 2013-10-06 16:53:04,847 - softwarecenter.db.database - INFO - open() database: path=None use_axi=True use_agent=True 2013-10-06 16:53:05,479 - softwarecenter.backend.reviews - WARNING - Could not get usefulness from server, no username in config file 2013-10-06 16:53:05,853 - softwarecenter.ui.gtk3.app - INFO - show_available_packa
[15:54] <danielubuntu> can anybody tell me what is the File Size of bash in /bin ? its Ubuntu 13.04
[15:55] <danielubuntu> ?
[15:55] <ActionParsnip> John_____: ok then search for that warning to see what it means
[15:56] <ActionParsnip> Danielubuntu: i believe http://packages.ubuntu.com has file sizes too
[15:56] <Akuw> hi
[15:56] <dpy> fixed, it shows up during playback only... I paused the music to set it up ... doh!
[15:56] <danielubuntu> ActionParsnip, is not everybody have same BASH? so can u plz check?
[15:57] <ActionParsnip> Danielubuntu: im on Precise only
[15:57] <danielubuntu> ActionParsnip, ok
[15:57] <Akuw> to install application to convert shape to postgis ?
[15:58] <john_____> ActionParsnip: i googled it and it said try cd ~/.cache; rm -r software-center but no avail.
[15:59] <danielubuntu> ActionParsnip, well, the size of bash in my computer is bigger than one in that site
[15:59] <danielubuntu> ActionParsnip, well no, its smaller than the "installed size"
[16:00] <danielubuntu> ActionParsnip, will sudo apt-get install -f fix this?
[16:00] <ActionParsnip> Danielubuntu: you will need to reinstall the package with the file in
[16:01] <danielubuntu> can anybody tell me what is the file size of bash in /bin ? ubuntu 13.04
[16:01] <danielubuntu> ?
[16:01] <ActionParsnip> Danielubuntu: the package system has no idea you deleted the file (ni idea why youbwould too) so reinstall the package and itbwill put the file back
[16:01] <danielubuntu> ActionParsnip, reinstall from repo?
[16:02] <danielubuntu> ActionParsnip, oh ok so live usb was a bad idea
[16:02] <ActionParsnip> Danielubuntu: not really. You can copy the file over. Or chroot in and reinstall the package thetr
[16:02] <ActionParsnip> There
[16:02] <ActionParsnip> Not a bad idea
[16:02] <danielubuntu> ActionParsnip, ok
[16:03] <danielubuntu> ActionParsnip, what is the file size of ur bash? can u kindly tell me?
[16:03] <h1n1> 724
[16:04] <danielubuntu> ActionParsnip, if u want
[16:04] <h1n1> Danielubuntu 737952 byte
[16:04] <danielubuntu> h1n1, 13.04 ?
[16:04] <h1n1> Yea
[16:04] <sallee> Hello there. Anyone interested in helping with networking problem. One of the computers on my network is not broadcasting hostname or ip, and also hoards the network, so nothing else in the house works properly.
[16:04] <john_____> ActionParsnip: i could not find a solution online.
[16:05] <danielubuntu> well mine have larger file size
[16:06] <danielubuntu> ActionParsnip, do I need to open fstab with any text editor?
[16:06] <h1n1> How large is large?
[16:06] <danielubuntu> h1n1, some more kilobytes
[16:06] <ActionParsnip> Danielubuntu: to do what?
[16:06] <danielubuntu> ActionParsnip, to add swap
[16:07] <h1n1> So what's wrong with that?
[16:07] <danielubuntu> h1n1, just checking if it is cracked or something
[16:07] <ActionParsnip> Danielubuntu: yes you will need to run: gksudo gedit /etc/fstab ,to get write access
[16:07] <Vivekananda> hey everyone I have green highlighting over green text in my terminal and on terminator
[16:07] <danielubuntu> ActionParsnip, ok thanks
[16:08] <Vivekananda> looks completely stupid and unuseful. How do I change it ?
[16:08] <ActionParsnip> John_____: could try the lubuntu-software-centre
[16:08] <h1n1> Well you can always rename it and reinstall the package that contain /bin/bash
[16:08] <ActionParsnip> Vivekanda: in terminal options you can changebappearance
[16:08] <Vivekananda> Also I lost the boot screen for ubuntu when I deleted lubuntu for some reason. How do I get it back ?
[16:08] <h1n1> Use: Apt-file search /bin/bash
[16:08] <h1n1> And compare again
[16:09] <ActionParsnip> Or: dpkg -S bash | grep bin
[16:09] <h1n1> That should work too
[16:09] <h1n1> And it's all depend on your paranoid level and how far you really want to check it ha ツ
[16:09] <ActionParsnip> Vivekananda: sudo apt-get --reinstall install lightdm
[16:10] <Tamwyn> Vivekananda: what do you meen with boot screen?
[16:10] <danielubuntu> h1n1, k
[16:10] <danielubuntu> h1n1, let me see
[16:10] <Vivekananda> ActionParsnip: I dont want the lightdm. I want the ubuntu welcome screen ( sorry not boot )
[16:10] <Tamwyn> Vivekananda: for login?
[16:11] <ActionParsnip> Vivekananda: do you mean plymouth, the boot splash?
[16:11] <fishcooker> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6201290/
[16:11] <Vivekananda> ActionParsnip: the options I see on the 'change profile' in terminal has no ' highlight option'
[16:11] <Vivekananda> ActionParsnip: yep
[16:11] <Vivekananda> the boot splash
[16:11] <Vivekananda> Tamwyn: yep at the time of login too
[16:11] <markx_> Any idea why http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v3.11.4-saucy/ is missing the headers-all?
[16:11] <Vivekananda> at login I see only a black background
[16:11] <ActionParsnip> Vivekananda: ok then reinstall the plymouth package. Are you really that bothered about somethingbso trivial....
[16:11] <john_____> ActionParsnip: command not found.
[16:12] <Vivekananda> ActionParsnip: I liked it :).
[16:12] <ActionParsnip> Markx_: contact the ppa maintainer. Its a 3rd party source so does not have the same rigerous testing of official packages
[16:12] <ActionParsnip> John_____: its not installed bybdefault
[16:13] <fishcooker> it seems thos wlan0 support for 5GHz on http://paste.ubuntu.com/6201290/
[16:13] <dinosaurvskitten> how would you go about debugging a slow wifi connectionn on 13.04? My download speeds peak at 100K/s instead of 1.5M/s, and I'm getting a lot of time outs too. Speed's fine if I boot back into macos (this is a macbook air). The problem happens with both brcmsmac and broadcom-wl drivers. I've disabled ipv6 and mdns already. My only next idea was to switch from nm to wicd, but wicd causes kernel panics. Any ideas?
[16:13] <Tamwyn> Vivekananda: I don't have it. It get lost after installing the Nvidia Drivers
[16:14] <Vivekananda> ActionParsnip: but about the terminal I cannot seem to find options to change the highlight color. This is how it looks now --- http://imagebin.org/272934
[16:14] <Vivekananda> completely unusable
[16:15] <Vivekananda> Tamwyn: same here . I lost it and I also installed nvidia drivers
[16:15] <loa> hello, can explain where is unity launcher in ubuntu 13.10?
[16:15] <goku> hi all
[16:15] <Vivekananda> loa: where is ?
[16:15] <MonkeyDust> loa  13.10 isnt ready yet, support in #ubuntu+1
[16:16] <loa> MonkeyDust, there is no support at all.
[16:16] <Vivekananda> another weird thing is happenning. For some reason when I try to Alt+tab my windows I see all windows but 'terminator' even when open on the same deskop is not visible
[16:16] <Guest19677> is the "nomodeset" option a permanent solution? Or do you use it just to install a new system, and fix it later
[16:16] <MonkeyDust> loa  type /join #ubuntu+1 and wait a bit longer than you did, after you asked a question
[16:16] <Vivekananda> but doing the windows picker ( cursor to right bottom as I have set it to be ) shows me that it is open
[16:17] <ActionParsnip> Vivekananda: edit -> Profiles -> edit -> Colours tab
[16:17] <ActionParsnip> Vivekananda: not got that?
[16:17] <Vivekananda> ActionParsnip: I went there and there is notthing for the "highlight" color ( which you see green for some lines in the imagebin above)
[16:17] <Vivekananda> hold on
[16:17] <Guest31517> how to register in this channel?
[16:17] <ActionParsnip> !register
[16:18] <Guest31517> !register
[16:18] <sallee> I know somebody out there would really like to help me out! Anyone interested in helping with networking problem? One of the computers on my network is not broadcasting hostname or ip, and also hoards the network, so nothing else in the house works properly.
[16:18] <ActionParsnip> Vivekananda: if you install and run guake you can get a useful terminal colour there
[16:18] <Tamwyn> Vivekananda: I think thats a delay of the X-Server you can't do lot against it. I have no problem with it. A way to minimize the problem would be an SSD so you system boots faster ;-)
[16:19] <ActionParsnip> Sallee: what network chip is it? Which distribution and release. Details.....
[16:19] <danielubuntu> how to reinstall a package via terminal?
[16:20] <newbee> hello folks
[16:20] <ActionParsnip> Danielubuntu: sudo apt-get --reinstall install packagename
[16:20] <danielubuntu> ActionParsnip, ok thanks
[16:21] <fdkldfsjdfk> wow, UEFI, secure boot and fast boot is really a headache. I'm new on this
[16:21] <sallee> ActionParsnip: elementary luna (based on precise). Qualcomm Atheros ar8152 v2.0
[16:21] <newbee> I have an very weired problem. I wanted to bind my music folder from a windows partition into my home folder using an entry in the fstab. If I check via 'mount' command if it is mounded, it says that it is. Nevertheless my file browser and 'ls' don't agree
[16:22] <newbee> I am very pussled. And I don't know what to do about that. Could you please help me!
[16:22] <ActionParsnip> Sallee: elementaryOS isnt supported here
[16:23] <danielubuntu> #elementaryos
[16:23] <ActionParsnip> Sallee: ask in #elementaryos
[16:24] <sallee> ActionParsnip: could you pretend its precise, then? #elementary doesn't have anyone who can help
[16:24] <MonkeyDust> sallee  neither has #ubuntu
[16:25] <ActionParsnip> Sallee: no. Its not ubintu so isnt supported here or in ANY of the Ubuntu support channels
[16:25] <ActionParsnip> Sallee: similarly, ubuntu is based on Debian but is not supported by the debian community in any way
[16:25] <Guest31517> can soneone tell me if I dont have permission to install programms from Downloads folder?
[16:25] <paulus68> I am booted with a live cd on a current linux system where my /home is not accessible because I made a mistake during the move from current location towards new drive. how can I copy the ./ folders using the live cd in order to keep the profile setting from firefox and thunderbird
[16:26] <Vivekananda> ActionParsnip: you dont understand the terminal colors are fine . but the green highlight is what I wish to change
[16:26] <sallee> ActionParsnip: Also, this problem has persisted through several different ubuntu installs on the same deivce
[16:26] <danielubuntu> sallee, no Ubuntu derivative is supported here take Linux Mint for example, everybody have different IRC channel
[16:26] <ActionParsnip> Guest31517: if you are able to install applications, the location doesnt mattter
[16:26] <ActionParsnip> Sallee: your issue is with elementary os. Not supported here
[16:27] <Vivekananda> sallee: any particular reason for using elementary ?
[16:27] <danielubuntu> well any way to know everything (configuration files) about ubuntu? like how something works? any tutorial / ebook or something?
[16:28] <ActionParsnip> !manual
[16:28] <ActionParsnip> Danielubuntu: easier to learn it the dame way you learned Windows.
[16:28] <sallee> Vivekananda: thanks for asking, the keyboard shortcuts are more intuitive, its a little easier to look at, and seems to have less bugs in the UI on little netbooks
[16:28] <ActionParsnip> Danielubuntu: you'll never know everything about an OS
[16:29] <danielubuntu> ActionParsnip, that will take long time then :)
[16:29] <danielubuntu> ActionParsnip, well I don't mean every single part, just configarations
[16:29] <ActionParsnip> Danielubuntu: eaxh day you will improve
[16:29] <danielubuntu> ActionParsnip, and not GUI
[16:30] <Vivekananda> ActionParsnip: any clues for the highlight
[16:31] <Vivekananda> http://imagebin.org/272934
[16:31] <paulus68> I am booted with a live cd on a current linux system where my /home is not accessible because I made a mistake during the move from current location towards new drive. how can I copy the ./ folders using the live cd in order to keep the profile setting from firefox and thunderbird
[16:31] <Vivekananda> it renders those directories invisible
[16:31] <newbee> does noone have an idea what could be the reason of my bind issue?
[16:32] <Vivekananda> paulus68: grysync , rsync would work ( I use that )
[16:32] <Vivekananda> you have to enable keep permissions and stuff if you want to
[16:33] <ActionParsnip> Vivekananda: is that on an NTFS partition by any chance?
[16:33] <paulus68> Vivekananda: What is the command please in order to copy from one location towards the other?
[16:34] <ActionParsnip> Paulus68: could use grsync as a GUI to rsync
[16:34] <Vivekananda> paulus68: I sometimes write commands incorrectly. What you can do is install grsync which is a gui for rsync and then choose options in there. Execute a test file to make sure what you are doign and then execute the big one
[16:35] <Vivekananda> ActionParsnip: ntfs partition for ?
[16:35] <ActionParsnip> Vivekananda: the location of the files and folders in the shiot, are they on an NTFS partition?
[16:36] <Vivekananda> yep
[16:36] <Vivekananda> so you are saying that this wont be an issue on ext3 4 ?
[16:37] <ActionParsnip> Vivekananda: then ots normal. The Linux files will show as normal. The files are green as they are executable
[16:37] <ActionParsnip> Ots = thats
[16:37] <Vivekananda> ActionParsnip: I am okay with the color. unhappy that it is bold green so cannot read the names of the files themselves. Wanted to change the bold to a duller green
[16:38] <marco___> hi, i accidentally removed my repositories and now i need to reconfigure them. I had this problem some time ago and someone in this channel gave me a link to a page that produced repo lists according to os version
[16:38] <Vivekananda> newbee: I dont know a whole lot but fstab is used to mount partitions
[16:38] <marco___> but i can't find it again, can anybody help me?
[16:39] <ActionParsnip> Vivekananda: its an ntfs thing. You may be able to tweak it but im not quite sure as I dont use ntfs anywhere
[16:39] <Vivekananda> if you already have a mounted partition then you can simply create a bookmark for the folder and it will show up as such
[16:39] <Vivekananda> ActionParsnip: but the os I amrunnin is ubuntu so the tweak must be on the side of ubuntu isnt it
[16:39] <ActionParsnip> Marco___: what is the output of: cat /etc/issue
[16:40] <daftykins> marco___: how do you keep doing that? >_<
[16:40] <k-joseph> hi to u all, users and developers, i want to connect my android phone to a wifi network i create, on my ubuntu pc, am using ubuntu 12.04 LTS and am asking how can i create a wifi network for me to connect my phone on the same internet am using via a modem?
[16:40] <ActionParsnip> Vivekananda: maybe. I use guake which themable but believe it will use the same thing for ntfs
[16:40] <daftykins> marco___: keep some backups in your /home next time? :)
[16:40] <daftykins> marco___: also http://repogen.simplylinux.ch/
[16:41] <ActionParsnip> Marco___: what is the output of: cat /etc/issue ,i can give a list file based on the release
[16:41] <marco___> daftykins: yes, i will keep a backup now :)
[16:41] <newbee> Vivekananda: yes, but you can also use it to bind one folder into another as described e.g. here http://backdrift.org/how-to-use-bind-mounts-in-linux
[16:41] <marco___> ActionParsnip: Ubuntu 13.4
[16:42] <ActionParsnip> Marco___: 13.04 not 13.4. The link daftykins looks decent
[16:42] <Vivekananda> newbee: instead of the bind and fstab why not symlink ?
[16:43] <Vivekananda> I do that and that is much easier and quick
[16:43] <Vivekananda> just one line of code
[16:44] <marco___> ActionParsnip: yes, thank you! :D
[16:45] <newbee> Vivekananda: i am not sure to be honest. Ich thought that the bind-ansatz would be the natural one.
[16:45] <paulus68> Vivekananda: another question after installing ubuntu while using the same username and password will I be able to copy over the profile files towards the new home directory or can I encounter problems there
[16:46] <newbee> Vivekananda: probably symlinks between partitions will have some problems and risks. Would be nice if someone could enlighten me about the differences and dis/advantages of bind vs symlink
[16:46] <Vivekananda> newbee: yep but I guess others are called for then :) . I dont know
[16:47] <Vivekananda> paulus68: I guess so . copying should be easy as is
[16:47] <Vivekananda> if there are errors you will see them in grsync
[16:48] <newbee> Vivekananda: :-) not exclusively. You denoted that you may not be an expert about fstab. So I thought maybe include some of those expers. But if you had happend to know  I would of course have meant you ;-)
[16:49] <Vivekananda> newbee: http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/49623/are-there-any-drawbacks-from-using-mount-bind-as-a-substitute-for-symbolic-lin
[16:49] <Vivekananda> newbee: no no it is okay. I honestly dont know. but I found a helpful link.
[16:50] <Vivekananda> please read it
[16:51] <xarex> moin
[16:53] <xarex> i have a problem with adobe flash player, when we get the new version ?
[16:53] <newbee> Vivekananda: to me the link indicates that I should try symlinks
[16:58] <Katux> hi
[16:58] <xarex> hi
[16:59] <Vivekananda> newbee: yep and it is easy too
[16:59] <lolol> can anyone tell me a software to record desktop
[16:59] <lolol> i forgot the name
[16:59] <lolol> recordmydesktop something?
[16:59] <DJones> !secreencast | lolol
[16:59] <bazhang> lolol, kazam
[16:59] <DJones> !screencast | lolol
[16:59] <lolol> thanks guys :)
[17:00] <bazhang> that factoid needs an update
[17:01] <newbee> Vivekananda: I do not get it. How do I link one directory into another, but with a different name
[17:01] <newbee> Vivekananda: lets say i want to link /mnt/something as /home/somebody/somethingelse
[17:02] <Katux> what would happen if one day Microsoft or any OEM decide to blacklist shim loader?
[17:02] <llutz> newbee: ln -s /mnt/something as /home/somebody/somethingelse
[17:03] <llutz> newbee: ln -s /mnt/something  /home/somebody/somethingelse     (sorry)
[17:03] <Katux> UEFI blacklist can be updated by Windows Update
[17:04] <newbee> llutz: this does not work. This does create /home/somebody/somethingelse/something
[17:04] <llutz> newbee:  /home/somebody/somethingelse has not to exist before
[17:05] <newbee> llutz: so the original folder is linked into the folder i did want the link to be
[17:05] <ampw> hello how do i install something like heimdall-flash
[17:05] <newbee> llutz: thx
[17:05] <newbee> llutz: thx
[17:05] <newbee> llutz: does the job :-)
[17:06] <tozen> ampw: if have in repos then sudo apt-get install package_name
[17:07] <ampw> tozen: if ihave 13.04 can i install a deb for the 12
[17:07] <bindi> I have two SSDs, one HDD. I plan on installing Ubuntu on the first SSD, Windows 8 on the second, and the HDD will be a shared data drive (so has to be ntfs..), and I want to have full disk encryption on all drives. Doable?
[17:08] <pfifo> Katux: windows normally tramples a grub install, how is this different? Microsoft dosent care about the users computer or there prefrences
[17:10] <pfifo> bindi: linux cant handle encrypted ntfs so no, not doable
[17:10] <paulus68> if I want to resize my hardrive just leaving out my home partition (on a seperate hd) what do I need to enter for the first HD for mount partitions and sizes?
[17:11] <paulus68> the drive as such is 1.5 TB big
[17:11] <Vivekananda> bindi: are you from india ?
[17:11] <bindi> Vivekananda: no
[17:12] <pfifo> paulus68: you cant resize a harddrive, its storage capacity is fixed by hardware limitations
[17:12] <kayzarg> hola
[17:13] <kayzarg> necesito ayuda acabo de instalar ubuntu en mi computadora no es muy nueva pero cuando quiero ver un video en youtube no se ve se ve como distorcionado
[17:14] <llutz> !es | kayzarg
[17:14] <paulus68> pfifo: ok let me rephrase what sizees do I need to enter for /boot /root and so on
[17:15] <pfifo> paulus68: I recommend using one harddrive for / and the other harddrive for /home...
[17:16] <pfifo> paulus68: maybe put a swap on each of them if you want swap
[17:17] <paulus68> pfifo: so for the first drive I select just / and for the 2nd hd I select /home + swap partition on the first hd?
[17:18] <pfifo> paulus68: yes... I would put half the swap on drive 1 and half on drive 2... swappiness will work faster like this in some cases
[17:18] <pfifo> paulus68: do not put swap on a SSD if one is SSD and the other is HDD
[17:20] <Rory> pfifo: Enlighten me as to why
[17:20] <Rory> pfifo: "SSDs wear out" isn't an aswer
[17:20] <pfifo> Rory: whats the question?
[17:21] <daftykins> SSDs are the best place for swap.
[17:22] <pfifo> ssds are the best place for a swap that operates fast*
[17:23] <SwedeMike> best place for swap is more memory so you don't need swap.
[17:24] <pfifo> exactly, its cheaper to buy RAM than a new SSD
[17:24] <Suraj> ..
[17:25] <MraMaria> Hi. Does anyone know if clearkimura/Customizer supports kernel upgrades?
[17:25] <arc__> hey can anyone have a look at this for me i need help http://paste.ubuntu.com/6201474/
[17:25] <Calinou> daftykins: SSD is still much slower than RAM :P
[17:26] <Calinou> 500MB/s in best case for SSD, ~10000MB/s at worst for RAM (DDR3) :P
[17:26] <Calinou> can reach 15000MB/s or even more
[17:27] <Calinou> I have 515MB/s and 13257MB/s respectively :p
[17:27] <Myrtti> MraMaria: say, what?
[17:27] <jack> arc__, i'd try a sudo
[17:27] <daftykins> Calinou: RAM is not part of the conversation
[17:27] <arc__> the same thing happens jack
[17:27] <MraMaria> arc__: try disabling any firewall. if then you could ping disable the rule for that
[17:27] <CaptainQuirk> Hi there !
[17:28] <jack> weird :/
[17:28] <arc__> there is no firewall
[17:28] <Myrtti> MraMaria: oh, it's some new fangled thing in github
[17:28] <MraMaria> Myrtti: say what what? :o
[17:28] <CaptainQuirk> I can't find a way to launch a terminal automatically after I'm logged in to my ubuntu sessino
[17:28] <MraMaria> Myrtti: no isn't, probably you are
[17:28] <CaptainQuirk> I tried editing /etc/rc.local as sudo but without any effect
[17:29] <Myrtti> MraMaria: well I can't find it in packages.ubuntu.com
[17:29] <pfifo> CaptainQuirk: Open a terminal, then logout choosing to 'save session'
[17:29] <houssem> hi
[17:29] <CaptainQuirk> pfifo, what is it supposed to do ?
[17:30] <kongthap> if i don't like a program to install in my home directory (node_modules) where should i move it to???
[17:30] <pfifo> it will sve the session, and on next login, will restore your programs
[17:30] <MraMaria> Myrtti: you know there is more life besides packages.ubuntu.com?!
[17:30] <CaptainQuirk> I need a scripting solution
[17:30] <pfifo> kongthap: /usr/local
[17:31] <Myrtti> MraMaria: you know this is the official support channel for Ubuntu and we haven't tried every app in the universe, and can realistically support only those in packages.ubuntu.com and in very, very limited amount some select few in some selected PPA's, if even those?
[17:32] <Katux> is HP a linux friendly company?
[17:32] <MraMaria> Myrtti: if you can't answer an user question just keep your case rested
[17:32] <logic_prog> when I double click on the ubuntu 13.04 iso on osx, should it open up the iso, or should it say "image not mountable" ?
[17:33] <kongthap> pfifo: if i moved the directory, do i have to re-config anything???
[17:33] <llutz> CaptainQuirk: cp /usr/share/applications/gnome-terminal.desktop ~/.config/autostart/
[17:33] <CaptainQuirk> llutz, that's interesting but opening a terminal is just an example
[17:33] <Katux> becaus his answer to UEFI relate problems is very odd "they only support Windows 8 and their own "recovery" software and not "other" operating systems or bootloaders."
[17:33] <llutz> CaptainQuirk: then take this also just as an example
[17:33] <Katux> *because *related
[17:34] <pfifo> kongthap: you should install to /usr/local instead of simply moving it there
[17:34] <CaptainQuirk> llutz, I don't get you
[17:34] <kongthap> pfifo: when i use apt-get how to specify the destination directory???
[17:34] <CaptainQuirk> I'm looking for a way to run any command when after loging in
[17:35] <CaptainQuirk> kongthap, you install node_modules with apt-get ?
[17:35] <pfifo> kongthap: you dont
[17:35] <kongthap> pfifo: npm???
[17:35] <llutz> CaptainQuirk: ~/.config/autostart/mycommand.script
[17:35] <kongthap> pfifo: i just follow tutorial, not sure when i was there???
[17:36] <llutz> CaptainQuirk: or console-login? ~/.bashrc
[17:36] <kongthap> pfifo: at the moment it's already node_modules folder
[17:37] <pfifo> kongthap: I have no idea what your doing, youll have to provide more details
[17:39] <CaptainQuirk> llutz, thanks, I'll look into it
[17:40] <kongthap> pfifo: it's grunt
[17:41] <kongthap> pfifo: i installed grunt using npm, do you know how to specify the destination folder?
[17:42] <James_Epp> So I appended this after doing 'sudo crontab -e' but after waiting a day, the file /srv/servers/logs/update.log contains no date. Did I do something incorrectly? http://paste.ubuntu.com/6201656/
[17:45] <pfifo> kongthap: no, i dont know anything about grunt or npm, i recommend either installing it the way it wasnt, or seeking support from the grunt/npm community
[17:45] <kongthap> pfifo: thanks :)
[17:47] <flex0> clear
[17:48] <pfifo> James_Epp: put all that into a bash script and run the script, if anyone thoses commands fail, the rest will not run
[17:49] <James_Epp> pfifo: So something like this? http://paste.ubuntu.com/6201694/
[17:50] <Guest64103> hello
[17:50] <pfifo> James_Epp: yeah... make sure to use a shebang in the script, and set a suitable PATH and any other enviroment vars
[17:51] <Guest64103> quit
[17:51] <James_Epp> pfifo: Okay. Thanks!
[17:52] <mzaza> Any ideas how to make Ubuntu detect Huawei k3770, it doesn't detect it?
[17:53] <arc__> mzaza: it that a android phone
[17:53] <mzaza> arc__: No a USB dongle
[17:53] <jack> sounds like an usb stick
[17:53] <arc__> sounds like a phone
[17:54] <mzaza> arc__: Ubuntu detects older USB dongles, this one is newer and it doesn't detect automatically.
[17:54] <mzaza> I am on Ubuntu 12.04
[17:54] <Calinou> some dongles need ndiswrapper to work
[17:54] <jack> mzaza, i think i'm using the same thing
[17:54] <Calinou> that is, using a windows driver
[17:55] <mzaza> jack: Same version and some model :D ?
[17:55] <jack> ubuntu knows my ISP, vodafone
[17:55] <jack> so connecting works perfectly
[17:56] <mzaza> jack: It's not about the ISP, when I change USB dongles with the same IP it works perfectly. The problem is that it doesn't detect the specific usb stick model I mentioned.
[17:56] <jack> hrm :/
[17:56] <gaurav__> How to use auto complete feature in vim
[17:56] <mzaza> jack: Could you help me try debugging the problem and find a solution?
[17:57] <jack> i can only Try_
[17:57] <jack> erm _try_
[17:58] <gaurav__> hello
[17:58] <jack> bbiab...need to go collecting some debts
[17:59] <benzrf> hello
[17:59] <benzrf> my sound seems to be stuck on dummy output
[18:00] <pfifo> gaurav__: vim has their own support channel in #vim you should ask there
[18:00] <benzrf> @help
[18:00] <benzrf> hm
[18:01] <islandmonkey> benzrf: !help
[18:01] <islandmonkey> !help
[18:02] <pfifo> see also !details
[18:02] <danny4way> How do i install eclipse on Ubuntu
[18:02] <danny4way> ?
[18:02] <islandmonkey> Oh wait, just remembered what that did now :)
[18:02] <pfifo> danny4way: 'sudo apt-get install eclipse'
[18:02] <daftykins> !info eclipse
[18:02] <benzrf> danny4way: is it not the same as everything else?
[18:02] <danny4way> But I need to install jdk too
[18:02] <gaurav__> how to use auto complete feature of vim on ubuntu
[18:03] <danny4way> Because I am trying to write codes for Java
[18:03] <pfifo> danny4way: are you setting up for android dev?
[18:03] <danny4way> no. Just for my AP Java class
[18:03] <gaurav__> how to use auto complete feature of vim on ubuntu
[18:03] <benzrf> gaurav__: same as anywhere else
[18:04] <benzrf> still stuck on dummy output in my audio [raring]
[18:04] <gaurav__> no means without pressing ctrl+x and ctrl+n
[18:04] <pfifo> danny4way: you can 'sudo apt-get install openjdk eclipse' to get both
[18:04] <danny4way> I tried sudo apt-get install eclipse
[18:05] <benzrf> gaurav__: I don't understand what you are asking
[18:05] <pfifo> danny4way: you may need to enable the universe/multiverse repos and then run 'sudo apt-get update'
[18:06] <gaurav__> i wan't to say that in vim when we do ctrl+n a pop up appears from where we can select previously typed characters but how to do it without pressing ctrl+n everytime as it reduces speed.
[18:09] <danny4way> sudo apt-get install eclipse isn't working.
[18:09] <gaurav__> i wan't to say that in vim when we do ctrl+n a pop up appears from where we can select previously typed characters but how to do it without pressing ctrl+n everytime as it reduces speed.
[18:09] <Gentoo64> why
[18:09] <gaurav__> @benzrf please reply
[18:09] <arc__> danny4way: what are u using eclips for
[18:09] <BluesKaj> danny4way,are you getting an error ?
[18:09] <danny4way> I am using eclipse for java
[18:10] <danny4way> Yes.
[18:10] <danny4way> It says unable to locate package openjdk
[18:10] <arc__> kk
[18:10] <slyfoxx> when loading ubuntu newest ver, at the almost end of install errorr'd out with grub not loading, any suggestions?
[18:11] <BluesKaj> danny4way, make sure all your sources are enabled in the package manager
[18:11] <danny4way> Yes. They are all enabled.
[18:11] <guestghost> what's the name of the ubuntu installer program? the one used to install on a new system?
[18:11] <MonkeyDust> slyfoxx  by latest, you mean 13.04 or 13.10 ?
[18:11] <BluesKaj> including canonical parthers, danny4way
[18:12] <danny4way> Yep. All are checked.
[18:12] <slyfoxx> ues sir
[18:12] <danny4way> since last month, I couldn't install anything from terminal
[18:12] <slyfoxx> yes
[18:12] <danny4way> It just keep showing erros.
[18:12] <danny4way> errors*
[18:12] <MonkeyDust> slyfoxx  which, 13.04 or 13.10 ?
[18:13] <slyfoxx> 13.10
[18:13] <slyfoxx> the newest one
[18:13] <slyfoxx> I wanted a dual boot on this vista crapola
[18:13] <MonkeyDust> slyfoxx  ok, that's not ready yet, type /join #ubuntu+1 for support
[18:14] <slyfoxx> okay thank you guys
[18:14] <slyfoxx> appreciated
[18:14] <slyfoxx> server ubuntu loaded just fine
[18:14] <slyfoxx> :)
[18:14] <slyfoxx> I will return registered, sorry
[18:15] <slyfoxx> other than that she looks like a fine op system
[18:15] <BluesKaj> danny4way, type openjdk
[18:16] <danny4way> it says couldn't get a file descriptor referring to the console
[18:17] <danny4way> Oh wait. it actually says openjdk: command not found
[18:19] <TJ-> danny4way: There is no such command, so that is to be expected
[18:19] <ace_me_> I get gethostbyname failure ! help :)
[18:19] <danny4way> So what do i do?
[18:19] <TJ-> danny4way: "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get -f install" *should* solve most problems with apt getting out-of-sync
[18:19] <danny4way> I am trying to install eclipse with jdk so that I can write a code for my AP java class
[18:20] <BluesKaj> sudo apt-get install openjdk-7-jre-lib , danny4way
[18:21] <danny4way> TJ-, I got error message
[18:22] <TJ-> danny4way: Good... we can help when you have specifics. Tell us what it is.
[18:22] <TJ-> !pastebin | danny4way
[18:23] <danny4way> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6201830/
[18:23] <danny4way> TJ-, this is an error i got.
[18:24] <danny4way> BluesKaj, I also got error for sudo apt-get install openjdk-7-jre-lib command
[18:24] <TJ-> danny4way: Do you see the problem? "gzip: stdout: No space left on device"
[18:25] <danny4way> where does that say? ,TJ-
[18:25] <TJ-> danny4way: In the output you just pastebinned
[18:25] <danny4way> Oh yeah. I see it now.
[18:25] <danny4way> So what do i do?
[18:26] <danny4way> I'm new to Ubuntu. It's nothing like other OS.
[18:26] <daftykins> danny4way: your /boot is full by the looks. can you pastebin "df -h" ?
[18:26] <BluesKaj> danny4way,  sudo dpkg --configure -a
[18:27] <danny4way> daftykins, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6201850/
[18:27] <TJ-> danny4way: Free some space ... identify what is using it all.  http://askubuntu.com/questions/73160/how-do-i-find-the-amount-of-free-space-on-my-hard-drive
[18:28] <stomanata> hI, IS IT NORMAL TO SEE LINES LIKE THIS  18:26:07.784067 IP ubuntu.local.47498 > google-public-dns-a.google.com.domain: 7415+ PTR? c.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.2.0.f.f.ip6.arpa. (90)
[18:28] <daftykins> danny4way: yep you need to delete some older kernels. can you pastebin "ls -l /boot" please?
[18:28] <stomanata> ops. caps lock is on. sorry
[18:28] <subz3r0> stomanata: maybe you should explain where you got this output?
[18:29] <TJ-> danny4way: OK, what has likely happened is you've had  series of Linux kernel package upgrades but the old ones haven't been removed, which has made the /boot/ file-system run out of space. Let's find out what packages are installed. Do "dpkg -l 'linux-*'
[18:29] <stomanata> this is tcpdump over my local network (4 computer)
[18:29] <josiah14> ubuntu is not detecting my hdd
[18:29] <josiah14> trying to figure out why
[18:30] <josiah14> I'm using the p6x58d premium asus mobo, which has an ich10 southbridge chipset
[18:30] <MonkeyDust> josiah14  what'sz the output of sudo blkid ? use pastebin to show us
[18:30] <BluesKaj> josiah14, are trying an OS install?
[18:30] <josiah14> yes
[18:30] <josiah14> technically lubuntu, but I would think this issue would translate across ubuntu flavors
[18:31] <guestghost> When ubiquity installs over a previous installation of ubuntu, does it keep files in /home ?
[18:31] <josiah14> I'm in xterm now and have native network access
[18:31] <kavelot> I'm trying to push ubuntu to my gf, but she's having trouble saving an impress document as .ppt... since I'm on windows now, I don't know how to do it (she says impress doesn't show the "file type" menu)... does ubuntu provides a simple way for me to VNC to her PC, considering she's behind a router?
[18:32] <danny4way> TJ, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6201865/
[18:32] <wilee-nilee> guestghost, Only if home is a seperate partition and you do not over write it.
[18:32] <guestghost> wilee-nilee, ok, thanks!
[18:32] <danny4way> daftykins, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6201870/
[18:33] <josiah14> test
[18:33] <TJ-> kavelot: see http://imagebin.org/272946
[18:33] <vak> i can't figure out what exactly wifi-card does my Lenovo Yoga 13 has... any hints? (i tried lspci; lshw -C network)
[18:34] <kavelot> TJ-: oh, got it! thanks!
[18:34] <danny4way> TJ-,  http://paste.ubuntu.com/6201865/
[18:34] <TJ-> danny4way: OK, thanks, now lets find out which version is actually running "uname -r"
[18:35] <daftykins> danny4way: sudo apt-get remove linux-image-3.8.0-19-generic linux-image-3.8.0-26-generic linux-image-3.8.0-28-generic linux-image-3.8.0-29-generic
[18:35] <danny4way> TJ-, 3.8.0-30-generic
[18:35] <daftykins> my above command is safe then
[18:35] <TJ-> danny4way: Follow daftykins advice now to remove those three kernel versions
[18:35] <daftykins> danny4way: then afterwards run "sudo apt-get -f install"
[18:36] <josiah14> http://pastebin.com/B8010LKY
[18:36] <daftykins> things should completely cleanly then
[18:36] <danny4way> Okay. Do I have to type all together with linux-image-3.8.0-19-generic or separately?
[18:36] <josiah14> thats the blkid output
[18:36] <daftykins> danny4way: paste that one long single command with each kernel package name after it
[18:36] <danny4way> Okay
[18:37] <TJ-> josiah14: How about "ls -l /dev/disk/by-id/" ?
[18:38] <andreiiar> a o
[18:38] <kavelot> TJ-: found out what happened... she's running it on a netbook, so those options don't show up because the screen is small :P
[18:38] <TJ-> kavelot: !!! .... !!
[18:39] <danny4way> daftykins, DONE
[18:40] <daftykins> danny4way: did "sudo apt-get -f install" complete nice and cleanly?
[18:40] <danny4way> Oh wait.
[18:40] <loa> how i can change boot logo?
[18:40] <josiah14> pastebin.com/Wnk5anJk
[18:40] <danny4way> I forgot.
[18:41] <josiah14> http://pastebin.com/Wnk5anJk
[18:41] <loa> now i have boot logo Xubuntu 13.10
[18:41] <loa> but i not even use xubuntu
[18:41] <danny4way> daftykins, it says 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 45 not upgraded
[18:41] <TJ-> josiah14: It's certainly missing. What make/model of drive is it? What interface (PATA/SCSI/SATA) ?
[18:42] <daftykins> danny4way: ok now run a "sudo apt-get autoremove" (to remove some additional remnants from those older kernels)
[18:42] <josiah14> SATA 6.0
[18:42] <guestghost> Is there a significant difference in upgrading a system versus installing fresh?
[18:42] <josiah14> not sure I know the make and model of the hdd anymore
[18:43] <josiah14> I think it was a western digital caviar
[18:43] <josiah14> of some sort
[18:43] <danny4way> daftykins, done
[18:43] <josiah14> balls, this is about the only part of my hardware I don't know
[18:43] <danny4way> The last statement says "Proccessing triggers for ureadahead..... ureadahead will be reprofiled on next reboot
[18:43] <TJ-> josiah14: OK ... And have you seen it working on the same motherboard before now, connected to the same socket, etc.? My first check would be: has it got power (did the power connector come out?) then that the interface cable is secure, then I'd be checking that the motherboard BIOS/firmware reports seeing the drive from its own Setup screen at power-on
[18:44] <danny4way> daftykins
[18:44] <josiah14> well' right now I can boot windows from that drive
[18:44] <danny4way> what's the next step?
[18:44] <daftykins> danny4way: ok and now a "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"
[18:44] <TJ-> josiah14: That's a good indicator! OK... which version of Ubuntu are you using right now? You can find that in a terminal using "lsb_release -a"
[18:45] <josiah14> lubuntu 13.04
[18:46] <TJ-> josiah14: Right... so my immediate thought is that the disk controller interface hardware on the motherboard is too new to have support in the Linux v3.8 kernel in Ubuntu 13.04... Can you tell me the make/model of the motherboard?
[18:46] <josiah14> p6x58d premium ASUS mobo
[18:46] <OerHeks> josiah14, maybe you have 4 primairy partitions already, so ubuntu installer sees no space/
[18:46] <TJ-> josiah14: Thanks. Give me a minute or so to look that up and check it
[18:46] <TJ-> OerHeks: Ubuntu isn't seeing the entire hard drive!
[18:47] <josiah14> sata chipset is Intel 82801JI (ICH10 Family) 4 port
[18:47] <josiah14> got that from the archlinux hardware analysis output on my machine
[18:48] <josiah14> actually, i'm 99% sure the 6.0 sata port that I have the drive connected to is on the 2 port sata node, same chipset though
[18:48] <TJ-> josiah14: Please read this forum thread. It appears that drives are known to 'disappear' on that controller/motherboard. http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/forum/291785-30-intermittent-sata-ports-asus-p6x58d-ahci-mode
[18:48] <OerHeks> TJ-, josiah14 on what windows?
[18:49] <josiah14> windows 7 system builders edition
[18:49] <danny4way> daftykins, so does this always happen to ubuntu?
[18:49] <OerHeks> UEFI?
[18:49] <daftykins> TJ- and josiah14 may i interject? i see your board has a second SATA controller to provide 2 extra SATA 6Gb/sec ports, can you double check that your drive is connected to the chipset provided ones and not the Marvell controller? i sense that's your problem
[18:50] <josiah14> my drive is connected to a 6.0 port
[18:50] <josiah14> 100% sure of that
[18:50] <daftykins> danny4way: it's rare to go through so many kernel updates really, also it's rare to still have a separately partitioned /boot that can fill up
[18:50] <daftykins> josiah14: yes but do you see what i mean about there being two 6Gb controllers?
[18:50] <josiah14> so that port is not running on the ICH10 southbridge?
[18:50] <josiah14> yes
[18:50] <daftykins> josiah14: it's possible, check the colour coding with the motherboard manual if you can
[18:50] <TJ-> josiah14: See the post by geraldreisner 25 June 2011 where in part he says " moved one of the two hi-speed SATA ports to the 3G SATA port. It's only been about a week, but I haven't seen the disappearing drive."
[18:51] <josiah14> theres 4 3gb and 2 6 gb sata controllers
[18:51] <danny4way> daftykins, Oh I see.
[18:51] <daftykins> josiah14: it would make sense as to why you can't see the drive if it is attached to the Marvell controller, if ubuntu isn't providing support
[18:51] <vak> i can't figure out what exactly wifi-card does my Lenovo Yoga 13 have... any hints? (i tried lspci; lshw -C network)
[18:51] <josiah14> aah
[18:51] <daftykins> vak: can you pastebin 'lspci' ?
[18:51] <josiah14> I didn't realize the 6.0 sata was on the marvell controller
[18:51] <vak> daftykins: no network on laptop! (((
[18:52] <josiah14> well, it's a normal hdd anyway, so I'm not really going to lose any speed by switching to the 3G port
[18:52] <josiah14> I'll try that out
[18:52] <TJ-> josiah14: I had a related issue to solve last week where the marvell controller cannot host boot devices, and someone had installed Ubuntu to a drive on that controller, and had spent several days failing to figure out why it wouldn't start, and reinstalling Ubuntu repeatedly.
[18:52] <josiah14> standby
[18:52] <josiah14> hmm
[18:52] <danny4way> daftykins, Done
[18:52] <daftykins> vak: flash drive to copy it off in a text file? :)
[18:52] <danny4way> What do i do next?
[18:53] <vak> daftykins: already doing this
[18:53] <josiah14> so... there is opportunity here to develop a driver for the marvell controller here?
[18:53] <daftykins> danny4way: ok by now you'll likely be worthy of a reboot to boot into a new kernel. i don't know what your previous question was but you should be set on the software front now. i don't know what your original query was :)
[18:53] <daftykins> josiah14: i've no idea if it might just require some additional setup to get working
[18:53] <danny4way> daftykins, it was just about installing eclipse .
[18:54] <DJones> Hmmh, is it good to be watching the strictly result shows and thinking who the hell are those two chipmunks up for getting kicked out
[18:54] <josiah14> meh, until i get a disk that could saturate the 3G bandwidth, I don't care too much
[18:54] <bazhang> DJones, yep
[18:54] <josiah14> when I get an SSD though, that is def something I well investigate
[18:54] <danny4way> daftykins, by the way, what is the command that install both jdk and eclipse all together for Java
[18:54] <josiah14> would like to have linux driver experience on my resume
[18:54] <daftykins> josiah14: the intel controller is providing both SATA 3 and 6Gb/sec, separate to the Marvell 6Gb, you can still run 6Gb i think you're just in the Marvell slots for it not the intel :)
[18:55] <TJ-> josiah14: The issue seems to be, not that Linux doesn't have a driver, but that the Marvell chip-set has a well-known bug in it that makes drives 'disappear'
[18:55] <daftykins> danny4way: oh ok - there are lots of guides for it online, have a quick google.
[18:55] <josiah14> that's super weird
[18:55] <TJ-> josiah14: It affects Windows and other operating systems the same way in some circumstances
[18:55] <danny4way> daftykins, oh okay. thank you very much.
[18:55] <Calinou> SATA III isn't that useful on any drive unless you do large copies, you won't feel the difference :)
[18:55] <daftykins> danny4way: no problem. it'll likely involve removing all openjdk packages, installing oracle jdk v7 then eclipse after that
[18:56] <danny4way> daftykins, thank you. I will try to google it but if I don't find any solution, then i will ask in this chatroom again
[18:57] <daftykins> sounds good
[18:57] <danny4way> datfykins, for now I need to reboot my system. Right?
[18:57] <daftykins> danny4way: yep
[18:57] <danny4way> daftykins, okay.
[18:57] <eer> Is there another cool calender program for Ubuntu except Evolution?
[18:58] <jhutchins> eer: aptitude search ~dcalendar
[18:58] <eer> What does the ~ mean?
[18:59] <jhutchins> ~d means search description.
[18:59] <Naeblis> Hello, I'm getting the following when I try to run software center. I just installed Xubuntu 13.04 and did an update: http://bpaste.net/show/U0Whif1I2b9OxA5cqP5y/
[19:01] <pfifo> Naeblis: try running it with sudo
[19:02] <jhutchins> pfifo: Shouldn't it do that automatically?
[19:02] <Naeblis> pfifo: same error
[19:02] <pfifo> jhutchins: dont know... but its erroring about auth and credentials
[19:04] <TJ-> Naeblis: See bug #1068680
[19:04] <pfifo> Naeblis: what is the output of 'echo $HTTP_PROXY'
[19:05] <Naeblis> TJ-: thanks. pfifo nothing
[19:05] <TJ-> Naeblis: In particular see comment #6 where it says "It seemed to be a problem with python-sip and python-qt4. Re-installing both packages fixed it for me"
[19:06] <danny4way> How do I install eclipse with jdk?
[19:06] <danny4way> I need that for Java.
[19:06] <benzrf> hello
[19:06] <benzrf> my audio is stuck on 'dummy output'
[19:06] <danny4way> Google doesn't really help.
[19:06] <pfifo> danny4way: 'sudo apt-get install openjdk eclipse'
[19:07] <danny4way> It says unable to locate package openjdk
[19:07] <danny4way> pfifo
[19:07] <benzrf> help?
[19:07] <pfifo> danny4way: 'sudo apt-get install openjdk-6-jdk eclipse'
[19:07] <MonkeyDust> !find openjdk | danny4way
[19:08] <benzrf> dammit
[19:08] <pfifo> danny4way: you could use 7 instead of 6 as well, upto you
[19:09] <genii> danny4way: If you're doing work on Android with your Eclipse, use 6 and not 7
[19:09] <danny4way> That's okay. As long as I can write java code for my AP class, I don't really care , pfifo
[19:09] <lastleo85> any way to run ios on a desktop
[19:09] <lastleo85> mac or PC?
[19:09] <lastleo85> Linuc?
[19:10] <danny4way> genii, I don't really use java for android. Java is for my AP class
[19:10] <josiah14> you guys are awesome.  Got the disk recognized
[19:10] <josiah14> thanks for the help
[19:10] <genii> danny4way: Just a heads-up :)
[19:10] <jhutchins> lastleo85: Apple probably has some development utilities that might include an emulator, but you can't run it as a primary desktop, and it's not open source.
[19:10] <danny4way> pfifo, so the command is done.
[19:10] <danny4way> So does that mean I can start using my eclipse?
[19:10] <danny4way> pfifo?
[19:11] <josiah14> y'all have inspired me to contribute to the ubuntu project - this is the best linux support I've gotten to date
[19:11] <danny4way> genii, :)
[19:11] <pfifo> danny4way: technically you can write java code in gedit/nano/or whatever... and then run ./javac from the command line. you dont have to have eclipse
[19:11] <pfifo> danny4way: eclipse should be able to be found in the dash now
[19:11] <lotuspsychje> joshhunt: smart choice!
[19:11] <danny4way> What is gedit/nano?
[19:11] <pfifo> danny4way: text editors
[19:11] <jhutchins> danny4way: Text editors.
[19:12] <danny4way> Where can i find it? pfifo?
[19:12] <lastleo85> jhutchins sad isnt it?
[19:12] <danny4way> Plus yeah. Eclipse is in the dash now. but I am gonna test if it will compile.
[19:12] <vak> daftykins: http://pastebin.com/srtCrGuG
[19:12] <danny4way> Last time I installed eclipse from Software Center and it doesn't compile.
[19:12] <pfifo> gedit should be installed by default look for it in the dash... nano is a cli text editor, just get tot a term and type nano
[19:12] <danny4way> pfifo
[19:12] <vak> daftykins: sorry for lasting so long
[19:13] <lotuspsychje> i just letting you guys know i've installed a handy package to resize pictures in nautilus called: nautilus-image-converter
[19:13] <daftykins> vak: hrmm not listed, try "lsusb"?
[19:13] <pfifo> danny4way: you might have to configure eclipse to get it to work with the jdk... that subject is better asked about in #eclipse
[19:13] <danny4way> pfifo, so what if I use gedit instead of eclipse, how do i compile it?
[19:14] <pfifo> danny4way: I dont know, something todo with 'javac' program... im lost here im just a lowly C programmer
[19:15] <lastleo85> which is the best pentesting distro and its irc gys?
[19:15] <lotuspsychje> !ot | lastleo85
[19:15] <danny4way> Okay. Thank you pfifo
[19:15] <pfifo> !alis | lastleo85
[19:15] <lastleo85> ubottu thaks
[19:16] <loa> how i can change boot logo?
[19:16] <genii> !bootsplash
[19:16] <jhutchins> danny4way: http://www.yolinux.com/TUTORIALS/LinuxTutorialJava.html
[19:16] <vak> daftykins: also not listed. but it does present! wifi worked in windows before i tried to install ubuntu (and ruined windows)
[19:16] <genii> Hm.
[19:16] <TJ-> danny4way: Stick with Eclipse whilst you're learning; Using the Java compiler (javac) at the command-line can get confusing since you often need to pass arguments to it that reference library JAR files. IDEs figure that stuff out for you mostly.
[19:17] <daftykins> vak: hmm we should be able to at least recognise the device though
[19:17] <jhutchins> danny4way: Netbeans is another option.
[19:17] <daftykins> vak: there isn't a hardware wifi switch that's somehow switched off?
[19:17] <TJ-> danny4way: It'd be like building a multi-library C/C++ project without using make, typing all gcc commands manually :)
[19:17] <pfifo> !info libav
[19:17] <pfifo> !info libav precise
[19:17] <genii> !plymouth | loa
[19:17] <TJ-> danny4way: Alternatively, investigate the 'ant' build system for Java
[19:17] <vak> daftykins: not that i know... i've looked for it already
[19:17] <toothe> gah, slapd's documentation is "broken"
[19:17] <toothe> or so it seems
[19:18] <danny4way> so I guess  for now I would use Eclipse
[19:18] <danny4way> But right now I don't know what to do to compile my java code
[19:18] <pfifo> why is apt installing libav instead of ffmpeg? super cow powers failing?
[19:18] <Slart> pfifo: isn't libav the new ffmpeg?
[19:18] <TJ-> vak: pastebin the output of "lsusb" - it may be one of those dual-function devices that needs to be put into WiFi mode
[19:18] <jhutchins> rfkill
[19:19] <TJ-> pfifo: libav is a fork of ffmpeg which many distro's adopted since most of the developers moved to the new project
[19:19] <kongthap> i installed jdk using .sh file which download from oracle, how to uninstall it???
[19:19] <pfifo> Slart: it looks and smells like ffmpeg
[19:19] <vak> daftykins: actually i've compilled installed drivers for rtl8723au because they were mentioned somewhere on those interwebs. and it says connected but no ping even to the home router
[19:19] <vak> TJ-: one moment
[19:20] <TJ-> vak: what make/model is the laptop?
[19:20] <X98Hacker> Hello
[19:20] <daftykins> vak: the interface got an IP address ok?
[19:20] <bibi_> how to install nvidi driver in xubuntu 13.10?
[19:21] <lotuspsychje> X98Hacker: welcome what can we do for you mate?
[19:21] <lotuspsychje> !13.10 | bibi_
[19:21] <X98Hacker> Nothing I got sorted out by ubuntu-uk
[19:22] <X98Hacker> I am here to help as a noob I am
[19:22] <vak> TJ- daftykins: well if i try lsusb with -v or -tv then i indeed get the wifi listed!
[19:22] <pfifo> X98Hacker: you have to start in the mail room
[19:22] <X98Hacker> Lol
[19:23] <daftykins> vak: ah-har. how does it name it? the Realtek you mentioned?
[19:23] <TJ-> mail room? Nah... making everyone a cuppa!
[19:23] <X98Hacker> U wish
[19:23] <pfifo> TJ-: he would be so lucky to start on kitchen duty
[19:23] <vak> TJ- daftykins: and it is indeed rtl8723au (i hope it is not because i've installed exactly the rtl8723au, whereas it migth have wrong...)
[19:24] <vak> might have *been
[19:24]  * TJ- slopes off to bug-fix and make his own cuppa!
[19:24] <vak> daftykins: yes, interface got an IP and it is usual one: 192.168.1.1
[19:24] <vak> stop
[19:25] <HAMSHAMA> I'm pretty new from windows, what do install packages look like, and how do I install them, without going through apt-get install, or the software centre?
[19:25] <dmobley88> why would phablet-bootstrap /home/(user)/fusion2/bootstrap delete stuff downloaded from the AOSP?
[19:25] <vak> daftykins: yes, interface got an IP and it is usual one: 192.168.1.40
[19:25] <X98Hacker> pfifio: u will be my foot stool
[19:25] <vak> daftykins: router is 192.168.1.1
[19:25] <lotuspsychje> !deb | HAMSHAMA
[19:26] <HAMSHAMA> lotuspsychje: roger, thanks
[19:26] <vak> daftykins: under "RX" i see even 320 packets. But ping doesn't work
[19:26] <lotuspsychje> HAMSHAMA: apt-get however is very handy aswell
[19:26] <danny4way> Can anyone help me with Eclipse? I can't do anything.
[19:26] <dmobley88> lotuspsychje so is apt-fast. :)
[19:26] <danny4way> I am stuck.
[19:27] <X98Hacker> danny4way what's wrong
[19:27] <dmobley88> that's okay danny4way, phablet-bootstrap decided to delete stuff downloaded from the AOSP.
[19:27] <daftykins> vak: ah so it received the IP via DHCP? that's good. i'm not really experienced in the area of wireless troubles i'm afraid so you may be best seeing of someone else can help
[19:27] <lotuspsychje> dmobley88: :p
[19:27] <dmobley88> what's wrong with your wireless Hamshama?
[19:27] <dmobley88> or vak?
[19:27] <danny4way> X98Hacker, I installed JDK and eclipse but it isn't compiling
[19:28] <dmobley88> or whoever is having wireless troubble?
[19:28] <vak> daftykins: anyway thank you!
[19:28] <daftykins> vak: np :)
[19:28] <dmobley88> what message does it give you danny4way?
[19:28] <lotuspsychje> vak: maybe the ##networking guys might be able to help?
[19:29] <dmobley88> whatever you do vak, do NOT remove the dnsmasq-base.
[19:29] <danny4way> Whenever I run the code on Eclipse, it just shows the error
[19:29] <vak> ifconfig shows 320 packets under "RX". But ping doesn't work even to the home router (default gateway) -- any hints??
[19:29] <bekks> danny4way: Which error...?
[19:29] <dmobley88> have you debugged it danny4way?
[19:29] <lotuspsychje> danny4way: might be usefull to pastebin that error in chat
[19:29] <danny4way> Sure. Hold on.
[19:29] <dmobley88> um, have you run diagnostics on it danny4way?
[19:29] <danny4way> How do i run diagnostics?
[19:29] <vak> dmobley88: i don't even know how to remove it... btw, why?
[19:30] <dmobley88> because if you do that, you will have to use another computer to download every dependancy dnsmasq-base relies on manually, and dnsmasq-base itself, then use the terminal to manually install each package.
[19:31] <danny4way> Oh wait. It's working now.
[19:31] <dmobley88> I did that once, and it was not fun.
[19:31] <danny4way> It wasn't working before.
[19:31] <danny4way> bekks
[19:31] <vak> dmobley88: oh... i see, thanks
[19:31] <dmobley88> ok, so vak,
[19:31] <dmobley88> what does ifconfig show?
[19:31] <Oldschool_test> here I am testing Ubuntu 7.04, say hi people
[19:32] <dmobley88> then use lshw -C network
[19:32] <lotuspsychje> !eol | Oldschool_test
[19:32] <dmobley88> then iwconfig,
[19:32] <dmobley88> then lscpi | -i grep netw
[19:33] <dmobley88> did you recently upgrade vak?
[19:33] <ryorky1> I followed the following tutorial to try to update my php to version 5.5, and now everything is broken
[19:34] <ryorky1> all of the required files are empty
[19:34] <histo> !info php
[19:34] <histo> !info php5
[19:34] <ryorky1> how can I completely uninstall what I upgraded to and just reinstall
[19:35] <lotuspsychje> !php | ryorky1
[19:36] <pfifo> ryorky1: what guide?
[19:37] <dmobley88> ffff ffffoooooddddd fff ffffooodddd is the word ffffooood ffffooood is the word
[19:38] <lotuspsychje> dmobley88: plz keep this channel for ubuntu support only
[19:38] <dmobley88> I asked a support question
[19:38] <dmobley88> never got a response.
[19:38] <histo> dmobley88: bird is the word
[19:38] <dmobley88> no histo it's food
[19:39] <bazhang> dmobley88, take the chit chat elsewhere
[19:39] <jrib> dmobley88: making yourself annoying is not the right way to change that ;)  Repeat your question after a reasonable amount of time and wait patiently
[19:40] <Anonynimity> why would phablet-bootstrap /home/(user)/fusion2/bootstrap delete stuff downloaded from the AOSP?
[19:41] <skinux> Where can I find a list of software installed via package manager?
[19:41] <k1l> Anonynimity: no need for crossposting
[19:41] <Anonynimity> nein
[19:41] <kongthap> i installed jdk using .sh file which download from oracle, how to uninstall it???
[19:42] <pfifo> skinux: you can run 'dpkg -l'
[19:42] <lotuspsychje> kongthap: doesnt it show in software centre?
[19:42] <jrib> kongthap: you need to consult its documentation for that
[19:42] <kongthap> lotuspsychje: no, i doesn't
[19:43] <lotuspsychje> kongthap: even when unfolding to more technical packages?
[19:43] <pfifo> kongthap: read and understan every line in the script and do the opposite of what it did
[19:44] <skinux> Actually, what is the best software for creating "snapshot" images of the system which I could install again from disc?
[19:44] <pfifo> skinux: squashfs
[19:45] <skinux> Hope it can compress as well, my system is 15G and I've only got about 3 DVDs.
[19:46] <pfifo> skinux: lzma compression, its used for the livecds, i love it
[19:46] <skinux> Correction, I have 7 DVDs.
[19:46] <kongthap> lotuspsychje: i show technical items and search for java, jdk, oracle...i think it does not show
[19:47] <pfifo> kongthap: the script offered by oracle clobbers your system, your not going to be able to uninstall
[19:47] <lotuspsychje> kongthap: you might want to try what jrib and pfifo recomended you
[19:47] <skinux> Is there a SquashFS front-end or is it cli only?
[19:48] <kongthap> pfifo: you meant, i cannot install it?
[19:48] <pfifo> skinux: cli only, its only a disk imaging app, youll need to add your own magic to use it in a recovery system
[19:48] <lotuspsychje> skinux: kazam can make screenshots and system video's not sure its that what you need..
[19:49] <pfifo> kongthap: no, your not going to be able to UNinstall it
[19:50] <skinux> lotuspyschji: Primary goal is to join an empty 30G EXT4 partition with my 30G Ubuntu partition. According to some searching I've done, I have to delete both partitions, create a single 60G partition and reinstall.
[19:51] <Kalel> Greetings.
[19:51] <pfifo> skinux: not likely... can you pastebin the output of 'sudo fdisk -l'
[19:52] <lotuspsychje> skinux: sorry, i focused on 'snapshot', you need cloning software of some sort?
[19:52] <lotuspsychje> Kalel: welcome mate
[19:52] <skinux> I suppose so, sure.
[19:53] <skinux> WARNING: GPT (GUID Partition Table) detected on '/dev/sda'! The util fdisk doesn't support GPT. Use GNU Parted.
[19:53] <calimero_82> hello
[19:53] <daftykins> hi
[19:53] <lotuspsychje> calimero_82: welcome, what can we do for you?
[19:53] <Kalel> I suppose I should uninstall my sytem's amd driver for install the newest 3.11 kernel.. Plausible !
[19:54] <pfifo> skinux: you should be able to move and merge with gparted (from a livecd)
[19:54] <CrazyZurfer_> ?
[19:55] <calimero_82> mmm nothing now, i wanted only say hello at everybody :)
[19:55] <pfifo> skinux: id have to see a screenshot of your partitions in gparted to know the details
[19:55] <Crazyzurfer> Hi
[19:55] <Crazyzurfer> how do I execute a program with the terminal?
[19:56] <lotuspsychje> Crazyzurfer: type packagename
[19:56] <skinux> I've taken a screenshot. How should I present it to you?
[19:56] <Crazyzurfer> lotuspsychje, "sudo: xampp-linux-x64-1.8.3-1-installer.run: order not found"
[19:57] <Kalel> Crazyzurfer: if there is a suffix like .sh you should run 'bash filename' or ./filename from path..
[19:57] <zexcriz> what is the difference between hosting our data on our VPS and in the other in the cloud ? i doubt there is any difference.
[19:57] <robeepal> Hi! I dont know exactly if I am in the right chat, but i have a question about Ubuntu OS for Phones, I want to know if my Samsung Galaxy S GT-I9100 is it compatible and stable with my phone ?! Thank you
[19:57] <lotuspsychje> zexcriz: are you using ubuntu?
[19:57] <daftykins> robeepal: #ubuntu-touch
[19:57] <robeepal> thank you
[19:57] <zexcriz> i have couple of ubuntu boxes and 1 arch and 1 debian machine.
[19:57] <bazhang> !xampp | Crazyzurfer
[19:58] <zexcriz> using ubuntu as the server machine.
[19:58] <zexcriz> lotuspsychje, why you asked ?
[19:58] <lotuspsychje> zexcriz: the ubuntu-server guys might wanna help you on your issue also
[19:58] <Crazyzurfer> bazhang, Not requesting help about xampp, requesting help about ubuntu
[19:58] <lotuspsychje> zexcriz: #ubuntu-server
[19:58] <naquad> hi
[19:59] <naquad> how do i retrieve key from ubuntu keyserver? i need a direct url
[19:59] <jota> quien habla en español??
[19:59] <zexcriz> lotuspsychje, ok :)
[19:59] <naquad> got this: http://keyserver.ubuntu.com:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xB9316A7BC7917B12&format=raw - but it returns html
[19:59] <Kalel> Crazyzurfer: bash filename
[19:59] <Kalel> just that..
[20:00] <Crazyzurfer> Kalel, says that it cannot ejecute the binary file :S
[20:00] <zexcriz> lotuspsychje, no one here can help me ?
[20:00] <Crazyzurfer> is the same thing for .run files?
[20:00] <pfifo> skinux: i think imigur.com or something like that... or imagebin.com... or heck, post it on 4chan if all else fails
[20:00] <lotuspsychje> zexcriz: perhaps yes mate, but i wanted to give you more sources :p
[20:01] <zexcriz> lotuspsychje, thanks for it mate :)
[20:01] <Kalel> Crazyzurfer: Yes. Try execute chmod +x filename' then run bash again
[20:01] <lotuspsychje> zexcriz: maybe detail out your issue more, like are you hosting own vps on ubuntu and cloud?
[20:01] <Crazyzurfer> jota: yo, but try #ubuntu-es
[20:02] <lotuspsychje> zexcriz: whats your purpose exactly?
[20:02] <zexcriz> lotuspsychje, currently hosting a VPS and now i was curious what are advantages or disadvantages if any if go for cloud.
[20:03] <lotuspsychje> zexcriz: not really sure how i can relate this to ubuntu support mate sorry
[20:04] <antivapor> so, in the past i've installed all the blueman stuff blindly, I just literally searched "bluetooth" and installed it all, and it worked sorta, but would still occassionally crash. I just started with a clean install, and would like to use bluetooth but it not crash, got any tips?
[20:04] <zexcriz> lotuspsychje, maybe because it's ubuntu recommends openstack for the cloud.
[20:04] <lotuspsychje> !cloud | zexcriz
[20:05] <Crazyzurfer> !xampp
[20:05] <lotuspsychje> zexcriz: im not really a fan of storing data online, but other might think otherwise..
[20:07] <lotuspsychje> zexcriz: i would go for an ubuntu server and tighten security and store data on there
[20:08] <Crazyzurfer> !nvidia
[20:08] <lotuspsychje> !msgthebot | Crazyzurfer
[20:09] <zexcriz> lotuspsychje, ok
[20:09] <lionrouge> hi ppl
[20:09] <lotuspsychje> zexcriz: but again maybe the #ubuntu-server guys might have other opinions..
[20:10] <lionrouge> can i somehow download Ubuntu updates and install them later on a machine w/o Internet?
[20:10] <ozgur> Hi everyone :)
[20:11] <zexcriz> lotuspsychje, i have asked the question there, hope to get a solution.
[20:11] <pfifo> !aptoncd | lionrouge
[20:12] <jey> yop
[20:14] <lotuspsychje> zexcriz: you could also ask differences or recomended clouds in #ubuntu-offtopic
[20:15] <zexcriz> lotuspsychje, great :)
[20:16] <lionrouge> pfifo, thanks a lot
[20:17] <lotuspsychje> !cookie | pfifo
[20:17] <Guest39673> hey guys i have a question on  motion for webcams .... where can i set a option to get at least 20 fps on webcam stream ?
[20:17] <lotuspsychje> !raid > paulus68
[20:18] <bekks> Guest39673: In the settings of your webcam. It must be capable of doing so.
[20:19] <skinux> Here is the GParted screenshot. http://imgur.com/YgJMJD0
[20:20] <kongthap> i've installed NetBeans IDE to /usr/local/ using installer (run as root) after finish the installation i don't see any shortcut to lunch the program, how can i start it?
[20:20] <genii> Guest39673: Check the config file in your home directory, usually called motion.conf . The relevant variable is: framerate #    where # is 0-100
[20:21] <joohoo> Hey guys! Do you know how I can list all running programs ordered by how much memory they're using :)?
[20:22] <k1l> joohoo: easiest is to look into htop, imho
[20:22] <kongthap> what is "Execute the launcher script by typing ./netbeans. "??? i meant i don't know how to do it
[20:23] <Guest39673> thank u genii
[20:23] <joohoo> Oh wait, right.
[20:23] <joohoo> k1l: I forgot to say it: I need to do this through the terminal
[20:23] <emj__> joohoo: I use top and press '<' and '>' until I get something I like
[20:23] <k1l> joohoo: htop is for terminal
[20:23] <joohoo> emj__: k1l: Alright! Great, I'll check that out
[20:23] <joohoo> Gotta leave, thanks for the help :)
[20:24] <KylieBrooks> hello
[20:24] <KylieBrooks> I have a question
[20:24] <k1l> !details | KylieBrooks
[20:25] <KylieBrooks> Is there a way to make KVIrc  alert when there is a new message in a channel, even when it's not a highlight?
[20:25] <jrib> kongthap: go to the directory with the "netbeans" file in your terminal, and type "./netbeans" (without quotes) followed by enter
[20:26] <MonkeyDust> KylieBrooks  better ask in #kvirc, some 100 people are there
[20:28] <kongthap> jrib: "/usr/local/netbeans-7.3.1$ ./netbeans" -> no such a file or directory
[20:28] <emj__> k1l: I just had to look up what the "real" command was: "ps -eo pid,cmd,pmem --sort -%mem"  and I'll spam you with what I got.. :-)
[20:29] <k1l> emj__: right, but "htop" is better to remember, at least for me ;p
[20:30] <emj__> indeed
[20:32] <kongthap> jrib: i can start it now it's in ../netbeans/bin but can you explain me what is this command ("./netbeans") means??
[20:34] <kongthap> jrib: why it must lead by "./"??
[20:35] <Tylertwo> kongthap: because it's not in your PATH
[20:38] <kongthap> Tylertwo: how can i make a shortcut to my application menu???
[20:39] <Tylertwo> kongthap: dunno. Is that related to your previous question?
[20:39] <pfifo> kongthap: let me give you a tip: in linux we outright shun graphical tools for doing programming tasks... if you are serious about learning java (and linux for that matter) then do everything from the command line.
[20:39] <plut0> pfifo: you around?
[20:39] <pfifo> plut0: yeah
[20:40] <plut0> pfifo: going to take another stab at this today. do you know when i need to divert initctl and what i need to reinstall?
[20:40] <pfifo> plut0: I would do the diversion at the beginning of section 5.5, and undo it right befor exiting the chroot
[20:40] <iceroot> kongthap: when you for example execute "ping" the system will look in specific directories for a program called "ping" these directories are defined by a variable called PATH, when "ping" is not found in that directores you will get "command not found". the command/script you want to execute is not in the PATH so you have to use ./ which means "the currect directory i am in"
[20:41] <pfifo> plut0: I was going to try this but I dont have a 64 bit install disk handy
[20:41] <kongthap> iceroot: it means "the current directory only", thanks
[20:42] <iceroot> kongthap: yes
[20:42] <iceroot> kongthap: there is ".." which means one directory higher and "." which means "current directory"
[20:43] <kongthap> iceroot: thanks for another tip :)
[20:43] <tking0036> Can somebody help me with my poptop pppd vpn server.. Here are the logs http://pastebin.com/cSxJJp46
[20:43] <njsg> each directory in UNIX-like systems has at least two entries: . and ..
[20:43] <njsg> . is the directory itself, .. the parent
[20:43] <njsg> is a special directory whose parent is the directory itself
[20:45] <iceroot> hm, even / is showing ".." :)
[20:45] <njsg> yes, but for /, .. is .
[20:45] <njsg> as in, it's the same
[20:46] <iceroot> is "." and ".." comming from bash? or from the file-system itself?
[20:46] <njsg> no, file system
[20:46] <njsg> "ls -lia /", that shows the inode numbers on the first column
[20:46] <njsg> note how . and .. have the same
[20:47] <njsg> that means they are the same file (directories *are* files)
[20:47] <iceroot> njsg: thx
[20:47] <njsg> this is at the filesystem level, although filesystems are expected to have something similar to this, and may have to be adapted when you mount them. but usually filesystems have some tree structure with a root
[20:47] <pfifo> It seems like it comes from the kernel over the filesystem, you get . and .. on vfat and ntfs as well, so it cant be the filesystem
[20:47] <njsg> so this part is usually easy to have
[20:48] <njsg> on UNIX filesystems, it is in the filesystem, others may have to adapt
[20:48] <njsg> I Don't remember how FAT deals with this, though
[20:48] <njsg> but I'm sure Tanenbaum explains that :-D
[20:48] <xray_> exit
[20:50] <xray> I need help installing ubuntu from a dual partitioned system (just want linux by itself)
[20:50] <anonymous_> OI
[20:51] <anonymous_> tem brasil ai
[20:51] <genii> !br | anonymous_
[20:52] <pfifo> !install | xray
[20:52] <xray> tks ubottu
[20:53] <anonymous_> br
[20:53] <tking0036> Do you guys think I should just reinstall
[20:54] <tapout> i have to recompile opencv, but i wanted to use the flags that ubuntu distro's had but add WITH_QT ...  how can I see what flags they used?
[20:54] <anonymous_> me ajuda ai
[20:54] <anonymous_> galera
[20:54] <jrib> !source | tapout
[20:54] <jrib> tapout: read debian/rules in the source package.  Why do you need to recompile?
[20:55] <tapout> because it's missing WITH_QT and the cv::namedWindow() function is giving me X window errors.  So I figured I would recompile and try WITH_QT
[20:56] <tapout> opencv is gtk by default, with_qt gives the QT HighGUI stuff.. that's what i read.  Not sure tho :)
[20:57] <n88> anyone here running ubuntu on a lenovo laptop and experiencing horrendous battery life times
[20:57] <pfifo> tapout: its worth a shot
[20:57] <n88> or know of a fix/ solution
[20:58] <Crazyzurfer> hi
[20:58] <Crazyzurfer> i just screwed it up
[20:58] <Crazyzurfer> I was trying to install my nvidia driver
[20:58] <Crazyzurfer> and now I've the creeen in 800x600
[20:58] <Crazyzurfer> and cannot change it in appearence
[20:59] <tapout> jrib, so am I right with my thinking ...  apt-get download libopencv-dev, figure out how to either extract the *.deb and find the debian/rules ?  I don't want to reinstall libopencv-dev to do this
[21:01] <pfifo> tapout: you can just 'apt-get source opencv' note the lack of a sudo here
[21:02] <tapout> ls -lals -la
[21:02] <tapout> sweet!
[21:02] <tapout> I see the flags, cheers guys
[21:04] <jemnis> hey
[21:06] <jemnis> hhhh
[21:19] <paulo> boa noite
[21:24] <ryorky1> I have apache2 working, but it is just serving up the files in var/www, where do I need to go to change the documentroot and to set up some virtual hosts for my dev environment?
[21:27] <Crazyzurfer> well.. found the way to uninstall the nvidia driver and see the screen in my resolution, the problem is that I don't see the app launcher in the left, and the windows doens't have the bar where you close, minimize, etc
[21:28] <otak> ryorky1: /etc/apache2/sites-available
[21:44] <Akuw> i need to install postgis 2.0
[21:45] <Akuw> followed this http://linfiniti.com/2012/05/installing-postgis-2-0-on-ubuntu/
[21:45] <Akuw> but got errors getting repos
[21:45] <daniel_> Hey does anyone know how to install unity-tweak-tool? It looks like it's gone from the ppa?
[21:46] <k1l> daniel_: its in the offical repos
[21:46] <daniel_> kt1 then i should be able to just do sudo apt-get install unity-tweak-tool?
[21:47] <k1l> daniel_: which ubuntu do you have exactly?
[21:47] <daniel_> 12.04
[21:47] <k1l> daniel_: its in the repos since 13.04
[21:48] <daniel_> How do you get it on 12.04?
[21:48] <paulo> boa noite
[21:48] <k1l> you need a PPA
[21:48] <paulo> o que e pda
[21:49] <k1l> !pt | paulo
[21:49] <daniel_> kt1 But when I add the ppa as it's listed on the internet it lets me add the ppa but when I try to install ubuntu-tweak-tool it says can't find package
[21:50] <daniel_> unity-tweak-tool88
[21:50] <daniel_> **
[21:50] <daniel_> different from ubuntu tweak
[21:50] <wilee-nilee> daniel_: you runa update?
[21:50] <daniel_> wilee-nilee yes
[21:51] <Squarepy> daniel_, indeed it is different, so not the tualatrix ppa
[21:51] <wilee-nilee> daniel_:  you sure it's added, what release you running?
[21:51] <daniel_> http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2013/02/introducing-unity-tweak-tool
[21:52] <daniel_> Running 12.04 LTS. Followed the instructions at http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2013/02/introducing-unity-tweak-tool but can't install.
[21:52] <k1l> daniel_: no 12.04 packages in that PPA
[21:52] <wilee-nilee> Unity tweak is   ot ubuntu tweak
[21:53] <wilee-nilee> Not*
[21:53] <eonsai> hi guys, just been through trying to fix my nvidia drivers ( GeForce GTX660) finally working with drivers 304 after I read in a comment that they were stable for another human bean. However, when I open up driver hardware is says "No proprietary drivers recognised" does this matter? When i run lspci in the terminal I get back (under my VGA info) Kernel modules nvidia_304, nouveau, nvidiafb in that order.
[21:53] <Crazyzurfer> help! just cant see the buttons from the windows and the launcher bar... this was after a failed installation of nvidia graphic driver
[21:54] <Crazyzurfer> found the way to uninstall the driver but can't see the windows close buttons, and launcher bar
[21:55] <daniel_> Oooooh thats for 13.04 only
[21:55] <daniel_> any way to update to 13.04 without doing fresh instal?
[21:55] <k1l> !update | daniel_
[21:55] <k1l> daniel_: <ou need to upgrade to 12.10 and then to 13.04
[21:56] <eonsai> have you tried sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade?
[21:56] <daniel_> thanks
[21:56] <eonsai> oops! beg my pardon
[21:57] <isasha> guys, I'm having a bit of an issue with my laptop
[21:57] <isasha> whenever I reboot or turn it on, the trackpad is absolutely non responsive and the keyboard is very poorly responsive
[21:57] <wilee-nilee> !details |  isasha
[21:58] <Titanium> i tried to install wine, and now when I login all I have is my background
[21:58] <isasha> I tried adding the following to rc.local: xinput set-prop 11 "Device Enabled" 0 and then again with a 1, which enables and disabled the keyboard
[21:58] <isasha> this usually works fine, however it won't do it on boot for some reason. I'm running Ubuntu 13.04 on a Macbook 4,2
[22:00] <isasha> Also I'm having issues with the standby not working *at all*, but I haven't looked into it yet
[22:05] <Rory> Titanium: Can you switch to a different TTY with the key combination Ctrl+Alt+F1 and log in using your normal username and password?
[22:05] <Rory> Titanium: Once you do that, run the command: "sudo chown username: .Xauthority" - replace username with your actual username
[22:06] <X98Hacker> does any know of any mac or osx irc on freenodew
[22:07] <k1l> !alis | X98Hacker
[22:08] <X98Hacker> K1L: thanks
[22:08] <dirdirdir> Hello, guise, can someone help me with libreOffice related problems? The thing is that it isn't openning .doc's. I thought it was possible... is it?
[22:09] <Rory> dirdirdir: What happens when you try? It is possible
[22:09] <jhutchins> X98Hacker: you could just try /j osx and see what happens.
[22:09] <jhutchins> dirdirdir: Yes.
[22:10] <X98Hacker> i have tried it say  #osx :Cannot join channel (+r) - you need to be identified with services
[22:10] <jhutchins> dirdirdir: Sigh.  I thought we'd been through this before.  What you're trying to do (open docs); how you tried to do it; what you expected; what happened instead.
[22:10] <k1l> X98Hacker: then do it. but that is not a topic for an ubuntu support channel. beter ask in #freenode for freenode related questions
[22:11] <X98Hacker> yea but it is a ubuntu laptop file share with osx so its abit of both
[22:11] <jhutchins> X98Hacker: No it's not.
[22:12] <dirdirdir> jhutchins: lol. You guys want it all at once? Where's the human side of this :P ??? Here it goes: I download a .doc, dowble cick it, Libre Office shows up, the bar gets fully charged and the logo dissapears, then nothing happens...
[22:12] <bekks> !register | X98Hacker
[22:13] <jhutchins> dirdirdir: What happens if you open libreoffice first, then use it to open the file?
[22:13] <dirdirdir> jhutchins, Rory:  I download a .doc, dowble cick it, Libre Office shows up, the bar gets fully charged and the logo dissapears, then nothing happens... And when i turn off my computer it shows me that libre office is still running.  Btw, I'm using Libre office on Elementary (luna) os.
[22:13] <Rory> !elementary | dirdirdir
[22:14] <Rory> dirdirdir: Elementary isn't supported here, this is the Ubuntu support channel
[22:14] <dirdirdir> Rory: ok, Rory, i think that means we won't talk to each other anymore...
[22:15] <dirdirdir> Rory: I want you to know that I love you no matter what LibreOffice does to use, or even if you prefer ubuntu over elementary
[22:15] <dirdirdir> Rory: does to us, Rory, that was a typo.
[22:16] <Rory> k
[22:16] <dirdirdir> jhutchins: thank you for leading my way through this hard passage, i'll remember you for ever
[22:20] <raven_> Hello I just installed Ubuntu 12.04 and the latest version of Skype but I get no audio from skype.
[22:23] <jack> raven_, skype is proprietary crap
[22:23] <jack> you better talk to its developers
[22:24] <daftykins> jack: no need to push your software politics on users
[22:24] <X98Hacker> lol
[22:24] <jack> this is #ubuntu, right?
[22:24] <wilee-nilee> raven_: You messed with sound, I had an acer aspire I had to mess with a config.
[22:24] <jack> it's not _my_ politics
[22:25] <daftykins> jack: FYI fighting it is just gonna come across as a troll
[22:25] <k1l> raven_: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SkypeTroubleshooting
[22:25] <jack> grmbl, alright
[22:25] <raven_> Damn it
[22:25]  * jack stfus
[22:25] <raven_> I was on Mint 13 and it worked fineeee
[22:25] <daftykins> raven_: i'd bet it's just the default audio device
[22:26] <jack> mint is at 15 now
[22:26] <raven_> daftykins all other sound plays
[22:26] <daftykins> raven_: sure but skype has settings
[22:27] <raven_> daftykins I run pavucontrol and it does not identify any output at all from skype
[22:27] <k1l> raven_: did you take a look into that help page i just posted to you`?
[22:28] <Akuw> to install readline ?
[22:28] <Frank81> can some one help me with linux syntax i have programmA that produces as output only a value and i need that value attached to programmB --bla=value
[22:29] <Frank81> how can i archiv this i tryed it with | but that didn't work
[22:29] <Frank81> i tought that will work but maybe it adds a blank to much
[22:30] <bwayne> Frank81: value="$( programmA )" ; programmB --blah="${value}"
[22:31] <jack> Frank81, what you want is programB --bla="$(programA)"
[22:32] <Frank81> bwayne i tryed that that don't worked "" inside that gets not executed
[22:32] <Frank81> it gets directly as parm into programmB
[22:32] <jack> try my suggestion
[22:32] <jack> works, promised
[22:32] <bwayne> Frank81: do what jack said.
[22:32] <Frank81> jack works nice
[22:33] <Frank81> so "$()"
[22:33] <Frank81> is the key :D
[22:33] <jack> :)
[22:33] <Frank81> thx a lot
[22:33] <jack> problem solved? a beer for me plz
[22:33] <Ownix> if you have ubuntu on a disk and grub, and you say... boot to a live CD and delete all partitions on the disk and format to NTFS. Will grub still be there?
[22:33] <Frank81> ok no problem i allow you to drink a beer :D
[22:34] <jack> yes Ownix
[22:34] <Frank81> Ownix depends on where you writed it
[22:34] <Titanium> Rory it does not let me
[22:34] <Frank81> grube can be writed to more then one place on disk :D
[22:34] <jack> grub doesn't care about partitions
[22:34] <k1l> Ownix: grub gets installed into the MBR
[22:34] <iceroot> Ownix: grub will be placed in the first 512bytes of your hdd. when creating a new partition layout and removing all partitions, it will be gone
[22:34] <Titanium> Rory i just re-installed hopefully that helps, all i could do is right click the background. I could not get to cli
[22:34] <iceroot> Ownix: at the latest, windows will overwrite grub
[22:35] <bwayne> jack: so why didn't my solution work?
[22:35] <Rory> Titanium: lol reinstalling will help, yes
[22:35] <jack> Frank81, writed == wrote
[22:35] <Titanium> Rory i just wish ubuntu installed grub
[22:35] <jack> bwayne, hold on a sec
[22:35] <bwayne> jack: sure
[22:37] <Rory> Titanium: It does
[22:37] <jack> bwayne, you confused { with (
[22:37] <Titanium> Rory well it never works and i have to repair it :(
[22:37] <Rory> Titanium: Could you be more specific?
[22:37] <jack> bash doesn't like that
[22:38] <Rory> !grub | Titanium
[22:38] <ryorky1> does anyone have experience setting up virtual hosts for apache2.2 in ubuntu?
[22:38] <Titanium> Rory I boot the ubuntu live cd, format as MBR, then boot the installer, partition it, complete the install, and reboot
[22:38] <bwayne> jack: $() runs the program, yes?  ${var} is the variable. i don't follow
[22:38] <Rory> ryorky1: Yes, what have you tried?
[22:38] <Titanium> Rory after doing this it does not boot until I repair grub
[22:39]  * jack shrugs
[22:39] <Rory> Titanium: Do you get an error?
[22:39] <Titanium> Rory my conputer takes about 5-10 minutes to reboot
[22:39] <Titanium> Rory yes I do, but I dont try it anymore
[22:39] <jack> to be a good shell surgeon, you need a clean screwdriver
[22:39] <Titanium> Rory so i cannot get the error
[22:40] <ryorky1> Rory:  Here is a gist of my sites-available files:  https://gist.github.com/ryorky1/6859978   but it's always serving up www/var
[22:40] <Ownix> iceroot: I just installed Windows Server 2012 R2 and I used its disk manager in the installer to delete all disk partitions. However, when I try to boot I get "Error: Unknow File System Grub Rescue > "
[22:40] <bwayne> jack: # var="$( echo 1 )" ; echo ${var} --> prints 1. oh well.
[22:40] <blip-> Hi, i just installed windows alongside my ubuntu install, but it
[22:41] <blip-> It overwrote the mbr thus grub2 menu now i cnt boot linux
[22:41] <ryorky1> Rory:  it seems that no matter what I do it is always directing me to var/www
[22:41] <jack> of course it prints 1  :)
[22:41] <blip-> Whats the quickest way to resetup grub ?
[22:41] <Ownix> However, after using my grub repair disk its going to the windows boot loader, but the windows boot loader is telling me that there are errors
[22:41] <wylde> ryorky1: you are enabling the sites once you create them right? At terminal 'a2ensite sitename'
[22:41] <wylde> ryorky1: and reload the apache config 'sudo apache2 reload'
[22:42] <wylde> errr 'sudo service apache2 reload'
[22:42] <iceroot> !grub | blip-
[22:42] <bwayne> jack: well, i don't see why it wouldn't work with the previous problem. oh well.
[22:42] <blip-> Ty
[22:42] <iceroot> blip-: first link
[22:43] <ryorky1> I created a file exactly like directrock.com called directrock.conf, b/c it couldn't find directrock.com
[22:43] <jack> bwayne, bash can be really mysterious :P
[22:44] <jack> happens to me as well
[22:44] <Rory> wylde: Did you enable the virtual hosts you made?
[22:45] <wylde> Rory: I'm not the one looking for help ;)
[22:45] <Rory> err ryorky1 rather ^
[22:45] <Rory> wylde: Brain fart, quarter to midnight
[22:46] <wylde> Rory: no worries :)
[22:46] <ryorky1> wylde:  now it gives me a You don't have permission to access /index.html on this server. error
[22:46] <Rory> ryorky1: Hooray that means your problem is fixed
[22:46] <Rory> ryorky1: But now you have a different, separate problem
[22:47] <ryorky1> Rory:  I just did the following:  sudo chmod 2750 /home/ryorky1/public_html
[22:47] <wylde> ryorky1: well that's progress. Now you have to see what's wrong in the configuration and/or permissions.
[22:47] <ryorky1> restart the service?
[22:47] <Rory> ryorky1: Look in /var/log/apache2/error.log
[22:48] <Falcorian> Hi all, I'm having some trouble with my multiple monitor set up using an Nvidia card. It defaults to the monitor on the left being on the right. If I use nvidia-settings it puts them in the right place until I logout, then reverts to them in the wrong place again.
[22:48] <Falcorian> Even with the xorg.conf having been written.
[22:48] <Ben64> Falcorian: hit the button that says "save to xorg.conf"
[22:48] <Ben64> bah
[22:48] <maxped> i can ssh into my ubuntu machine but it cant connect out. ping cnn.com returns unknown host. i have tried restarting networking, ifconfig has the correct ip address. im not sure how to troubleshoot this. help please.
[22:48] <wylde> ryorky1: 'tail -f /var/log/apache2/error.log is handy to have open in terminal while you troubleshoot.
[22:48] <Ben64> Falcorian: you sure its actually getting written? needs to have root to write to there
[22:49] <Falcorian> Sorry Ben64, it was the first thing I tried too ;-) This used to work until a few days ago.
[22:49] <ryorky1> wylde, Rory:  [Sun Oct 06 17:44:53.475602 2013] [core:notice] [pid 29798:tid 140680769480512] AH00094: Command line: '/usr/sbin/apache2'
[22:49] <ryorky1> [Sun Oct 06 17:47:51.100698 2013] [mpm_event:notice] [pid 29798:tid 140680769480512] AH00491: caught SIGTERM, shutting down
[22:49] <ryorky1> [Sun Oct 06 17:47:52.195147 2013] [mpm_event:notice] [pid 30193:tid 140639144011584] AH00489: Apache/2.4.6 (Ubuntu) configured -- resuming normal operations
[22:49] <ryorky1> [Sun Oct 06 17:47:52.195454 2013] [core:notice] [pid 30193:tid 140639144011584] AH00094: Command line: '/usr/sbin/apache2'
[22:49] <Falcorian> Ben64: Definitely being written. I deleted it, and then wrote to make sure.
[22:50] <wylde> !paste | ryorky1: you're going to get yourself in trouble doing that :P
[22:51] <ryorky1> wylde, sry, any idea how to fix the perms issue?
[22:51] <Rory> ryorky1: You've been told multiple times how to diagnose it
[22:52] <otak> maxped: can you ping a number eg. ping 8.8.4.4 ? if so the problem is dns, look in /etc/resolv.conf
[22:52] <ryorky1> Rory:  I'm looking at the file, but those error msgs mean nothing to me
[22:53] <wylde> ryorky1: I'll likely get told it's not the ideal way but.... you could add www-data to your user group. Keep in mind that means www-data can access anything that your user has GROUP permissions on.
[22:54] <_DB> ello
[22:54] <wylde> ryorky1: beyond that monitor your error.log while you make adjustments, it will provide all the clues you need while referring to the apache documentation.
[22:55] <maxped> otak: i can ping 8.8.4.4 how do inpect the resolv.conf file? when i nano it it says not edit by hand is only 2 lines long. everything was fine untill i just rebooted. could it be a conflict between router and computer?
[22:55] <wylde> ryorky1: just remeber after every change to configuration files you must reload the configs with 'sudo service apache reload' or completely restart the service 'sudo service apache2 restart'
[22:57] <otak> maxped: so it contains your router's address?
[22:59] <maxped> otak: no, just says  Dynamic resolv.conf(5) file for glibc resolver(3) generated by resolvconf(8)
[22:59] <maxped> otak, and do not edit by hand
[22:59] <genii> maxped: How does the box get it's ip?
[23:01] <maxped> genial: should be static, router reservation matches the ip in ifconfig
[23:02] <brainacid> hi
[23:02] <brainacid> how do i create a command shortcut?
[23:03] <DaemonicApathy> What kind of command?
[23:03] <brainacid> ~/.opam/4.01beta/bin/utop
[23:03] <brainacid> i want to write utop
[23:03] <DaemonicApathy> You just want to make it a keyboard shortcut, or an icon shortcut?
[23:03] <brainacid> or add that directory to my path
[23:04] <brainacid> i mean for bash terminal
[23:04] <DaemonicApathy> Write a script in a text file, then call the file from the terminal when you need it.
[23:04] <DaemonicApathy> Be sure to make it executable.
[23:04] <brainacid> or make an alias
[23:05] <hitsujiTMO_> brainacid what you're looking for is a personal bin directory
[23:05] <brainacid> correct hitsujiTMO_
[23:05] <hitsujiTMO_> cd ~
[23:05] <genii> maxped: So... the router still does dhcp to the machine but always gives it same IP by it's MAC address, or you manually configured the machine in /etc/network/interfaces ?
[23:05] <brainacid> i want to add that to my command path
[23:05] <hitsujiTMO_> mkdir .bin
[23:05] <hitsujiTMO_> cd .bin
[23:06] <Falcorian> Does anyone know where the "Display" settings menu sets how monitors are configured?
[23:06] <brainacid> PATH=.... in .bashrc? or .bash_profile
[23:06] <hitsujiTMO_> ln -s ~/.opam/4.01beta/bin/utop ./utop
[23:06] <brainacid> thought of it but didnt know command
[23:07] <Guest26785> Hi, I'm trying to fix my grub/mbr after I installed Windows alongside Ubuntu...  I'm now in Linux LiveCD, but I am unable to install grub
[23:07] <Guest26785> sudo grub-install /dev/sdb
[23:07] <Guest26785> -> Path `/boot/grub' is not readable by GRUB on boot. Installation is impossible. Aborting.
[23:07] <hitsujiTMO_> in .profile dd it
[23:07] <hitsujiTMO_> add*
[23:07] <Guest26785> Any ideas ?   I'm finding a lot of complex stuff on the web, this should be much simpler
[23:08] <hitsujiTMO_> !paste
[23:08] <Guest26785> do I need to mount any partition from /dev/sdb ?
[23:08] <Guest26785> prior to installing grub on that drive ?
[23:09] <hitsujiTMO_> this should be in your .profile: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6202832/
[23:09] <Valdus> all:  something really weird is happening, my laptop is closed but if i plug in an external monitor and keybboard/mouse, it doesn't require my administrator password to access the machine.  it's as if i'm already logged in
[23:09] <Valdus> this is a security problem for me, any ideas as to why this is happening/how to fix?
[23:10] <daftykins> Valdus: which version?
[23:10] <hitsujiTMO_> valdus: goto setting -> brightness & lock
[23:10] <Valdus> daftykins: 12.04 LTS
[23:10] <hitsujiTMO_> make sure lock is active
[23:11] <Valdus> hitsujiTMO: yea, the lock switch is set to ON
[23:12] <Valdus> hitsujiTMO: and it's set to lock the screen after 0seconds
[23:12] <Valdus> the setting is "Screen turns off"
[23:13] <Crazyzurfer> help! just cant see the buttons from the windows and the launcher bar... this was after a failed installation of nvidia graphic driver
[23:13] <Crazyzurfer> help! just cant see the buttons from the windows and the launcher bar... this was after a failed installation of nvidia graphic driver
[23:13] <Crazyzurfer> :S
[23:13] <Crazyzurfer> http://i.imgur.com/kEFXsOQ.png
[23:14] <maxped> genii: i have edited the interfaces file to be static, and set dhcp reservation on the router, but there always seems to be a conflict. i am going to reset the interfaces to dhcp and delete the reservation and see what happens
[23:15] <Valdus> seems like the external monitor takes over as the main monitor when i close my laptop's built in monitor, so it's as if the main monitor never turned off
[23:15] <Valdus> that's my theory
[23:16] <ryorky1> wylde:  I'm still completely stuck on this, do you have any suggestions?  what folder(s) should I be adding permissions to?
[23:16] <hitsujiTMO_> its prob not locking the session on screen off
[23:16] <postmodern> is there a short-hand command to install an alternate package, and have it become the default, without having to run update-alternatives manually?
[23:18] <hitsujiTMO_> valdus: for now i'd recommend setting the system to suspend on lid closed ... this should at least require password once resumed
[23:19] <maxped> genii: should be only need to edit interfaces file, and set reservation, but seems like it never sticks.
[23:20] <Benkinooby> hi, i used ubuntu 12.10 (from minimal install) and fluxbox. i see that i have "zeitgeist" installed (probably because i installed unity or gnome some time ago - but i barely use them) and want to know if it is in any way systemrelevant.
[23:20] <Benkinooby> !zeitgeist
[23:21] <Benkinooby> !dpkg zeitgeist
[23:21] <Benkinooby> anyway: apt-cache says: it logs activities and envents and makes relevant information available to other apps.
[23:22] <raed> hello guys i need help , I'm using ubuntu 12.04 32bit Guys I can't log out, when i log out there is a black screen with these lines : http://paste.ubuntu.com/6202778/ and nothing happen until i press ctrl+alt+del to restart
[23:22] <Benkinooby> *used -> use
[23:23] <genii> maxped: In this case ...  if you manually set it on the computer then you also need to specify all the other things, like netmask, gateway, broadcast, and dns servers to use. The other way is set the computer to everything auto, get ip by the router's dhcp and then in the router still give it a number by dhcp but always the same one
[23:23] <raed> hello guys i need help , I'm using ubuntu 12.04 32bit Guys I can't log out, when i log out there is a black screen with these lines : http://paste.ubuntu.com/6202778/ and nothing happen until i press ctrl+alt+del to restart
[23:23] <Benkinooby> can i remove zeitgeist, if i don't use unity?
[23:24] <jrib> Benkinooby: if you don't want it, remove it
[23:24] <maxped> genii: so in the interfaces file leave dhcp and then set the reservation on the router?
[23:26] <Benkinooby> jrib: i don't know how important zeitgeist is. i mean, "logging activites and making them avail. to other progs" could also be restore feature.
[23:26] <KurtKraut> What package provides the do-release-upgrade command? Google is not helping me to find the answer
[23:27] <Benkinooby> jrib: probably i don't want it, but i don't think is zeitgeist is a "unity only" thing
[23:27] <Benkinooby> or is it?
[23:27] <hitsujiTMO_> KurtKraut: update-manager-core
[23:28] <KurtKraut> hitsujiTMO_, thanks! My VPS has a minimal setup and this package wasn't included. Now I can use do-release-upgrade, thanks!
[23:28] <hitsujiTMO_> np
[23:29] <jrib> Benkinooby: it just shares information about your usage between apps as far as I know... it's not "critical" I believe
[23:34] <plut0> pfifo: you around?
[23:36] <sandman1> can anyone tell me how to reset my admin password i forgot it
[23:36] <Benkinooby> jrib: ok. i don't think i use any apps that may benefit from it. I'll notice if i'm wrong :P thank you
[23:36] <plut0> anyone know how to repair init/upstart in a chroot environment? mine isn't booting and fails with "init: Failed to connect to socket /com/ubuntu/upstart: Connection refused"
[23:37] <sandman1> anyone?
[23:37] <pfifo> plut0: just got in
[23:38] <plut0> pfifo: i ran the dpkg-divert command on initctl but it didn't fix my bootup issue
[23:38] <plut0> pfifo: more importantly, i need to know what to reinstall after running the divert...
[23:39] <pfifo> plut0: rm -rf /sbin/initctrl and  dpkg-divert --remove /sbin/initctl
[23:40] <plut0> pfifo: i did that when i was done
[23:42] <pfifo> plut0: I was suggesting that you format and start the whole process over again, doing the diversion at the beginning of section 5.5... I wasnt suggesting that you chroot and reinstall services
[23:43] <fossterer> Hi
[23:43] <pfifo> plut0: where are you at right now in your process?
[23:43] <plut0> pfifo: yeah i didn't format and reinstall
[23:44] <plut0> pfifo: was hoping to just fix it
[23:44] <pfifo> plut0: I wouldnt mind seeing dmesg from your install
[23:44] <pfifo> plut0: and the output of 'dpkg -l' could be helpful too
[23:44] <plut0> let me see if i can grab it from the running system
[23:45] <pfifo> plut0: dmesg from a chroot would be useless. but anything in /var/log/upstart might be useful
[23:45] <plut0> pfifo: i can boot with init=/bin/bash
[23:46] <pfifo> plut0: ill be happy to read the logs if you gather them all up
[23:46] <the_tor> can someone tell me how to save a terminal command as a file ?
[23:47] <pfifo> plut0: im going to go eat, pm me a link when your done, ill be afk for a bit
[23:47] <wilee-nilee> !bash | the_tor Maybe?
[23:48] <the_tor> I would like to carry a command out easy by opening the file
[23:51] <luca__> Wie stellt man die Leiste mit minimieren, schließen usw. wieder her?
[23:52] <Falcorian> Alright, I think I'm 90% to fixing my multiple monitor issue. Apparently xorg isn't used anymore, now we use .config/monitors.xml
[23:52] <Falcorian> However, my GDM still has the monitors flipped, does anyone know where gdm reads its monitor settings from? Some askubuntu posts say ~gdm, but I have no user by that name in 12.04.
[23:53] <Falcorian> Err, sorry: It's still wrong on lightdm, the login screen
[23:53] <the_tor> luca_ wie hast du die denn wegbekommen ?
[23:55] <the_tor> luca_ ???
[23:56] <Svetlana> KurtKraut: https://pastee.org/7s7vj
[23:56] <ananymous_4_nsa> how can I make a file with a terminal command in it ?
[23:57] <ananymous_4_nsa> that Ieasy can use this command
[23:57] <Svetlana> ananymous_4_nsa: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Beginners/BashScripting
[23:57] <genii> ananymous_4_nsa: echo "put the command here" > filename
[23:58] <ananymous_4_nsa> thanks very much
[23:58] <Svetlana> genii: you sure that is what he asked about? Bash scripts are supposed to have a #! line and be executable... your thing is not.
[23:58] <AdityaRaj> hi i am trying to install ubuntu 12.04 on my laptop with 20 gb free space, can any one suggest me what kind of partitions i need to make?
[23:58] <ananymous_4_nsa> oh no , it's not the thing I would
[23:59] <genii> ananymous_4_nsa: If you want after, open it with a text editoe and append to the top the shebang: #!/binbash
[23:59] <Svetlana> AdityaRaj, go with the defaults the installer gives you. They are sane.
[23:59] <ananymous_4_nsa> I would make a file with a terminal command  in it
[23:59] <Svetlana> genii, missing /?
[23:59] <genii> ananymous_4_nsa: #!/bin/bash     rather
[23:59] <genii> Svetlana: Yes, keyboard is sticking
[23:59] <Svetlana> That is better.  :)