| skellat | Can anybody recall the main bug for the volume indicator not showing? We got another one to mark as a duplicate and at this hour of night I can't remember the right number for the main bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1235843 | 03:41 |
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| ubottu | Ubuntu bug 1235843 in Ubuntu "xfce volume icon stuck at mute" [Undecided,New] | 03:41 |
| Noskcaj | Has anyone else had thunar randomly crash when clicking the "up one level" button? Doesn't happen every time. | 05:27 |
| forestpiskie | skellat: that dupe is duped now | 06:23 |
| brainwash | I can confirm bug 1235836 | 10:21 |
| ubottu | bug 1235836 in Ubuntu "xubuntu 13.10 can't enter password" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1235836 | 10:21 |
| elfy | brainwash: checking in a vm now - if I get the same I'll do a bug report for it | 10:46 |
| elfy | no idea what package it would be though | 10:47 |
| brainwash | cryptsetup, I edited the affected package | 10:47 |
| elfy | ok - I'll check and confirm it too | 10:47 |
| elfy | probably needs to be checked by other flavours as well | 10:48 |
| brainwash | I noticed this bug like 1 week ago when installing xubuntu daily, tried different setup options and couldn't get the password prompt for encrypted disk to accept any keyboard input | 10:49 |
| brainwash | (didn't bother to file a bug report back then) | 10:49 |
| elfy | input after install? | 10:49 |
| brainwash | yes, I think the system did freeze and needed to be restarted the ugly way | 10:50 |
| brainwash | usually you don't see any chars when typing the password, right? | 10:50 |
| elfy | I'd assume you saw * | 10:51 |
| brainwash | maybe something hardware specific | 10:52 |
| elfy | seems there's no encrypted testcases for anyone | 10:52 |
| brainwash | this is actually the first report mentioning such an issue | 10:53 |
| elfy | I'll try with ubuntu as well | 10:54 |
| elfy | eventually | 10:54 |
| brainwash | could be plymouth (theme) related.. | 10:55 |
| elfy | sda5_crypt setup successful | 10:55 |
| brainwash | yea, thanks for testing this setup option | 10:55 |
| elfy | fine here - no problems at all with today's iso | 10:56 |
| brainwash | so it's a rare case | 10:57 |
| elfy | booting ubuntu iso to install now | 10:57 |
| elfy | brainwash: also - did you use the same iso as the reporter? | 10:58 |
| brainwash | but still, you are only testing it "virtually" | 10:58 |
| elfy | yep | 10:58 |
| brainwash | no | 10:58 |
| brainwash | I used the daily iso image from 1 week back | 10:59 |
| elfy | ok - so can you try with todays? | 10:59 |
| elfy | can't imagine it's changed though | 11:00 |
| elfy | and I doubt if it's xubuntu specific either if it is there | 11:01 |
| brainwash | if it's somehow caused by xubuntu's plymouth theme, it would be :D | 11:02 |
| elfy | it's a duplicate bug by the way | 11:02 |
| elfy | ish | 11:02 |
| brainwash | link | 11:03 |
| elfy | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cryptsetup/+bug/1225136 | 11:03 |
| ubottu | Ubuntu bug 1225136 in cryptsetup (Ubuntu) "13.10 regression: No password asked for encrypted partitions during boot" [Undecided,New] | 11:03 |
| elfy | bet they're related | 11:03 |
| brainwash | yea.. no.. hard to tell =S | 11:05 |
| elfy | :) | 11:05 |
| elfy | not something we should worry about though imo | 11:06 |
| brainwash | yes, I don't feel like testing it today.. or tomorrow | 11:06 |
| brainwash | normally you would expect a bug report with like 200+ heat | 11:08 |
| brainwash | if something is wrong | 11:08 |
| elfy | unless it is new - and no-one tests it and no-one notices :) | 11:08 |
| elfy | there are no manual testcases looking at encrypted setups - not sure about the auto stuff | 11:09 |
| elfy | ubuntu is fine as well | 11:10 |
| elfy | forgetting all about that conversation now :p | 11:10 |
| brainwash | so it's just another bug report nobody cares about :) | 11:11 |
| elfy | :) | 11:11 |
| elfy | assuming that tomorrow I'm not covering the skiver again at work I'll have a go on hardware | 11:12 |
| brainwash | are there any bugs left which need some attention? not counting the indicator related ones | 11:16 |
| elfy | as far as I know all the ones we've been talking about are all in progress | 11:17 |
| elfy | not seen anything new, but I've not been watching the tracker for a few days - r/l things | 11:18 |
| bluesabre | brainwash: I keep pinging micahg and mr_pouit to merge those fixes so we can do an upload | 11:18 |
| brainwash | elfy: ok :) | 11:19 |
| brainwash | bluesabre: hopefully "soon" | 11:19 |
| bluesabre | that's what I've been hoping | 11:20 |
| brainwash | so there will be some time left to test the final version | 11:20 |
| bluesabre | those two fixes only fix some minor things, so it doesn't really matter | 11:20 |
| bluesabre | the main thing now is the indicators | 11:20 |
| bluesabre | and has anybody had an update notification while running saucy? | 11:21 |
| elfy | nope | 11:21 |
| elfy | update mangler runs and opens itself - but no notifications - that said I've got the gtk3 ones here | 11:22 |
| bluesabre | I'm going to file a bug for that | 11:23 |
| bluesabre | because if it isnt fixed before release, fixes won't be delivered to anybody but the apt-wise | 11:23 |
| elfy | bluesabre: which indicators against? | 11:23 |
| bluesabre | I don't understand the question | 11:24 |
| elfy | bluesabre: and I am informed of updates - update mangler opens | 11:24 |
| elfy | bluesabre: sorry - I mean gtk3 | 11:24 |
| bluesabre | it does open (and show a gui?) | 11:24 |
| bluesabre | ? | 11:24 |
| elfy | yes | 11:24 |
| elfy | update mangler - opens and shows updates | 11:25 |
| elfy | there is no notification in the panel though | 11:25 |
| bluesabre | without you personally opening the application? | 11:25 |
| elfy | yea | 11:25 |
| bluesabre | cool | 11:25 |
| bluesabre | not a problem then | 11:25 |
| elfy | that works properly - just no notification itself | 11:26 |
| elfy | as far as I'm concerned the 2 are different things | 11:27 |
| brainwash | I've seen it once, the applet.. it told me to upgrade one downgraded package | 11:28 |
| elfy | biab | 11:28 |
| brainwash | elfy: bug 1206739 is still open, caused by the new glib version shipped by saucy | 12:28 |
| ubottu | bug 1206739 in xfce4-terminal (Ubuntu) "xfce4-terminal crashed with SIGSEGV in magazine_chain_pop_head()" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1206739 | 12:28 |
| ochosi | brainwash: thanks for all the debugging around appfinder | 12:28 |
| brainwash | ochosi: didn't ping nick yet, because I somewhat expect a response like "use the upstream version" | 12:30 |
| ochosi | hehe, yeah | 12:30 |
| ochosi | well we can ask him to do a release | 12:30 |
| ochosi | at least a bugfix release | 12:30 |
| brainwash | with the gdbus migration patch, which is not included in the saucy build (other upstream patches are though) | 12:31 |
| ochosi | right | 12:31 |
| ochosi | then we could actually also ask that patch to be included in 13.10 | 12:31 |
| ochosi | but we'd need to get someone to do a debdiff, then find an uploader | 12:32 |
| * ochosi doesn't really know how to do proper debdiffs | 12:32 | |
| brainwash | needs to be tested, that commit I mean.. I just compiled the upstream version and assume that the gdbus migration is doing the magic | 12:32 |
| ochosi | ah | 12:33 |
| ochosi | ok | 12:33 |
| ochosi | i guess apt-get source xfce4-appfinder -> apply the patch -> see if it works would be the way to go then | 12:33 |
| brainwash | yea, I'll test it | 12:34 |
| ochosi | cool thanks | 12:34 |
| brainwash | ochosi: yes, it's the commit (last comment bug 1048805) | 14:16 |
| ubottu | bug 1048805 in xfce4-appfinder (Ubuntu) "xfce4-appfinder launches very slowly" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1048805 | 14:16 |
| brainwash | however, there is an easy workaround, if someone is affected... and almost nobody is | 14:18 |
| brainwash | so include the commit and backport it? | 14:19 |
| brainwash | quantal/raring/sauce | 14:19 |
| brainwash | y | 14:19 |
| brainwash | (you should also compile it with the gdbus patch to verify it) | 14:21 |
| andrzejr | Guys, it looks like the version of libindicator required by new xfce4-indicator-plugin has not yet been released. | 19:53 |
| andrzejr | The most recent version (12.10.2) is missing indicator-ng.h API. | 19:54 |
| Unit193 | Yes, but that's Ubuntu for you, rolling a newer version in distro than actually released. | 19:56 |
| andrzejr | The question is: do you plan a release in a near future or should I temporarily remove support for IndicatorNg? | 19:57 |
| andrzejr | As it is now, xfce4-indicator-plugin does not compile on non-ubuntu systems | 19:57 |
| Unit193 | micahg was still going to try and ship it in Saucy, but failing that he most likely will put them in backports. | 19:59 |
| Unit193 | Might be able to get the Ayatana project to actually release something, no? | 20:02 |
| andrzejr | That would be helpful, especially when they make such a big change to the API. | 20:03 |
| andrzejr | xfce4-indicator-plugin also depends on unreleased xfce4-panel so the blame is partly on me - I shouldn't have made a release before all dependencies are released. | 20:04 |
| Unit193 | Eh, last I saw in #xfce-dev, Nick was going to be looking at merging it in soon, no? | 20:15 |
| ochosi | brainwash: gosh, that scrollwheel-bug is really annoying... | 20:43 |
| ochosi | andrzejr: well i guess in that case i have to take the blame for the release, cause i kinda talked you into it | 20:44 |
| ochosi | but i still think that that's no biggy | 20:44 |
| ochosi | getting the ayatana folks to do a release of libindicator makes sense anyway | 20:44 |
| ochosi | maybe we can send one of our thugs (brainwash?) | 20:44 |
| brainwash | ochosi: still need to talk with nick... | 20:55 |
| ochosi | bout what? | 20:55 |
| ochosi | appfinder? | 20:55 |
| brainwash | ochosi: maybe, and about xfce4-terminal segfaulting | 20:56 |
| ochosi | right | 20:56 |
| ochosi | the terminal isn't ubuntu-specific? | 20:56 |
| brainwash | ochosi: what about the scrollwhell-bug? it's caused by the overlay scrollbar | 20:56 |
| ochosi | yeah, but still, it's annoying | 20:56 |
| brainwash | ochosi: appears to be glib 2.37+ specific or something like that | 20:57 |
| brainwash | wait, no need to prepend your nick all the time :D | 20:57 |
| ochosi | thanks ;) | 20:57 |
| ochosi | well an upstream-bugreport would be a good first step for the terminal i guess | 20:58 |
| brainwash | so why is it annoying? xubuntu users usually don't use the overlay scrollbar | 20:58 |
| brainwash | workaround is easy too, simply export the env var | 20:58 |
| ochosi | yeah, but it's weird that it breaks such basic functionality | 20:59 |
| brainwash | every theme is affected, so... should the xubuntu session set the env var? | 21:00 |
| ochosi | i guess, i'm not sure why the scrollbars don't add the env-var themselves | 21:00 |
| brainwash | it does work in unity | 21:01 |
| ochosi | yeah, wonder whether they set the env_var in the session | 21:01 |
| brainwash | maybe it does get set somewhere | 21:01 |
| ochosi | btw, i'll flip the switch locally in greybird for the scrollbars | 21:02 |
| ochosi | if i don't see any breaking websites anymore, i'll push it | 21:02 |
| brainwash | I didn't do any research about this env var, can't even recall it's name :) | 21:02 |
| brainwash | nice | 21:02 |
| brainwash | btw did you compile the appfinder with the mentioned commit? | 21:03 |
| ochosi | not yet, had a "busy" sunday | 21:04 |
| ochosi | brb | 21:04 |
| brainwash | maybe it can be included, not sure how much work it would cause for the package maintainer(s) | 21:05 |
| ochosi | well the main issue is creating the debdiff | 21:06 |
| ochosi | an uploader could be found i guess | 21:06 |
| brainwash | only for 13.10, or do you also consider updating the packages for quantal and raring? | 21:07 |
| ochosi | well mostly for 13.10 | 21:07 |
| ochosi | and maybe 12.04, because it's the lts | 21:07 |
| ochosi | but to me it's not a major issue | 21:07 |
| brainwash | it does not affect xfce 4.8 | 21:07 |
| ochosi | as long as we get a new version in 14.04 i'm fine | 21:08 |
| ochosi | right | 21:08 |
| brainwash | it mainly affects both of us :D | 21:08 |
| ochosi | hehe | 21:08 |
| ochosi | trueish | 21:08 |
| ochosi | for that, the workaround is sufficient | 21:09 |
| ochosi | so yeah, i guess i'd focus on more important stuff for now | 21:09 |
| ochosi | gotta fix orion for the gtk3 indicators | 21:10 |
| brainwash | do you even use the appfinder (regularly)? I don't | 21:10 |
| ochosi | yeah, i do | 21:10 |
| ochosi | in the xfrun mode | 21:10 |
| ochosi | it's quite handy with the custom shortcuts you can make | 21:10 |
| brainwash | currently I'm trying to solve this one bug 1234469 | 21:11 |
| ubottu | bug 1234469 in network-manager (Ubuntu) "Network does not come up after resuming from suspend." [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1234469 | 21:11 |
| ochosi | interesting, i think i've experienced that one before | 21:14 |
| brainwash | I did encounter it 3 times today (3x long term sleep) | 21:16 |
| brainwash | unlucky I guess, usually it happens very rarely | 21:17 |
| ochosi | i'm currently trying to reproduce one of my issues in parole | 21:18 |
| ochosi | really hope that one's fixed | 21:18 |
| brainwash | dvd playback? | 21:18 |
| brainwash | I recall reading about a dvd playback issue | 21:19 |
| brainwash | ochosi: does a lp bug report exist which addresses the scroll-wheel issue? | 21:22 |
| brainwash | only found the arch one | 21:22 |
| ochosi | not sure | 21:25 |
| ochosi | i've never seen a bugreport about that | 21:25 |
| ochosi | and in parole i mostly wanna see the mouse-cursor go away always in fullscreen mode | 21:25 |
| ochosi | it should work though | 21:25 |
| ochosi | one of our few gtk3 blockers | 21:26 |
| brainwash | scroll-wheel issue maybe lightdm-gtk-greeter releated? | 21:27 |
| brainwash | after the switch to gtk3 | 21:27 |
| brainwash | bug 1024482 | 21:28 |
| ubottu | bug 1024482 in lightdm (Ubuntu) "Mouse cursor theme does not change from default after login" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1024482 | 21:28 |
| ochosi | the scroll-wheel issue? | 21:30 |
| brainwash | read the last comments | 21:30 |
| ochosi | hm i see | 21:31 |
| ochosi | not sure why this is not assigned to the greeter then | 21:32 |
| ochosi | ah, right | 21:32 |
| ochosi | it does seem to be lightdm's fault | 21:32 |
| brainwash | still not sure what this means, didn't read the bug report properly | 21:32 |
| brainwash | is the report useful at all? | 21:33 |
| ochosi | i'll have to check tomorrow, am a bit braindead already tonight | 21:39 |
| brainwash | I'll create a bug report and link the arch linux and upstream one | 21:45 |
| ochosi | cool | 21:47 |
| brainwash | ochosi: scroll-wheel in gedit works in unity, gnome3 and even in lxde o.O | 21:55 |
| ochosi | then it'd be interesting to know what lxde does.. | 21:57 |
| brainwash | works in enlightenment too | 22:00 |
| brainwash | and the last comments in the arch bug report mention Xfce | 22:02 |
| ochosi | hmm | 22:05 |
| brainwash | I'm trying to replace xfwm4 with mutter... but the session freezes | 22:13 |
| ochosi | strange, i tried gala a while back, that worked | 22:14 |
| brainwash | bingo, the scroll-wheel issue is caused by xfwm4, replaced it temporary by openbox and scrolling started to work in gedit | 22:17 |
| ochosi | :/ | 22:18 |
| ochosi | so i guess we'd have to do a xubuntu-specific xfwm4 patch | 22:18 |
| brainwash | let the overlay scrollbar users suffer :P | 22:20 |
| ochosi | hehe | 22:22 |
| ochosi | yeah possible | 22:22 |
| ochosi | hope you included all your findings in the bugreport | 22:22 |
| brainwash | yea, I'll file it tomorrow-ish | 22:22 |
| ochosi | nice | 22:23 |
| brainwash | would it be possible to add the workaround? or should it be a patch for xfwm4? | 22:23 |
| ochosi | well, the proper solution seems to be the latter | 22:25 |
| brainwash | even upstream? | 22:26 |
| brainwash | (first someone actually has to write a patch) | 22:26 |
| ochosi | well the question is whether upstream would accept a patch that is kinda distro-specific | 22:27 |
| ochosi | don't think the overlay-scrollbars are available anywhere else | 22:28 |
| brainwash | arch users apparently use them too | 22:29 |
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