| pitti | Good morning | 04:55 |
|---|---|---|
| Laney | morning! | 08:05 |
| Laney | hey pitti, how's it going? | 08:05 |
| Laney | have fun at the wedding? | 08:05 |
| darkxst | Laney, hi, did my patch work for you? | 08:05 |
| Laney | darkxst: yes, did you see my comments? | 08:06 |
| darkxst | Laney, what comments? | 08:06 |
| Laney | sounds like a no to me :P | 08:07 |
| Laney | http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2013/10/06/#ubuntu-desktop.html | 08:07 |
| darkxst | oh right, missed that | 08:08 |
| darkxst | I think its ok to watch a different address, diff wise not much different to looking at DESKTOP_SESSION | 08:10 |
| darkxst | and atleast for gnome-shell, it will work if running under a different session | 08:11 |
| darkxst | Laney, but on the otherhand, Unity spoofing org.gnome.Shell is just bad! | 08:12 |
| Laney | Don't know, just seemed cleaner to me | 08:13 |
| darkxst | and right the on_unity* naming is a bit odd now | 08:13 |
| Laney | and I don't know why they do that but it's presumably useful for some reason | 08:13 |
| pitti | hey Laney | 08:14 |
| pitti | Laney: indeed, it was nice! | 08:15 |
| pitti | Laney: met Julie, Didier, Rick, Seb, vuntz, and had lots of opportunities to practice wine drinking and French :) | 08:15 |
| pitti | seb128: bonjour mon ami, as-tu arrive d'accord ? | 08:15 |
| * pitti wants his compose key back | 08:16 | |
| pitti | this new ibus 1.5 mess -> not amused :( | 08:16 |
| seb128 | good morning everyone | 08:17 |
| seb128 | pitti, salut ! ça va bien ? bien rentré ? | 08:17 |
| Laney | wħąt, ńø çô₥pòṡę? | 08:17 |
| seb128 | pitti, je suis bien rentré merci (j'étais chez moi à 17h) | 08:17 |
| Laney | hey seb | 08:17 |
| pitti | seb128: ici aussi, 17:30 a` maison | 08:17 |
| seb128 | pitti, yeah, we delay on the new ibus for some cycles but we had to take the hit before the LTS cycle | 08:17 |
| seb128 | Laney, hey | 08:17 |
| Laney | pitti: sounds like fun! | 08:17 |
| pitti | Laney: no, the new settings now only allow a ridiculously limited set of compose keys :( | 08:18 |
| Laney | seb128: have fun at the wedding? | 08:18 |
| seb128 | Laney, very much | 08:18 |
| pitti | I want Scroll Lock, as that's pretty much the only key which I don't use | 08:18 |
| seb128 | pitti, I guess you can set it manually in gsettings somewhere | 08:18 |
| pitti | I don't have a spare alt or windows key, and no menu key | 08:18 |
| Laney | oh, the Keyboard dialog thing | 08:18 |
| Laney | is that ibus? | 08:18 |
| seb128 | pitti, or maybe in gnome-tweak-tools | 08:19 |
| Laney | look in org.gnome.desktop.input-sources | 08:19 |
| pitti | Laney: well, at least with the whole input system reorganization a lot of things broke | 08:19 |
| seb128 | we have unhappy users for sure | 08:20 |
| pitti | like, you can't type a foreign language on a non-US keyboard any more | 08:20 |
| pitti | before, I could e. g. say "Russian with ibus-m17n" on a German keyboard | 08:20 |
| seb128 | we have issues with the hotkey to switch layouts as well | 08:20 |
| seb128 | Laney, pitti: good part of those issues are the GNOME changes we tried to hold on for some cycles | 08:21 |
| seb128 | but well, old ibus was still gtk2 and it was becoming unpractical to maintain those reverts on top of the GNOME stack | 08:22 |
| Laney | what gives that shortcut ui? | 08:22 |
| pitti | yeah, I know :/ | 08:22 |
| Laney | it can't be g-c-c | 08:22 |
| seb128 | Laney, what shortcut ui? | 08:22 |
| Laney | unless we cherry-picked it | 08:22 |
| Laney | the dialog to choose compose key etc | 08:22 |
| Laney | we got rid of the old complicated but flexible one | 08:22 |
| seb128 | I think they add more option to g-c-c in 3.8 | 08:23 |
| seb128 | https://git.gnome.org/browse/gnome-control-center/commit/?h=gnome-3-8&id=978ab40f3eb6e4ec2a632941cd8f879919aa2e02 | 08:23 |
| seb128 | I wonder if we can just cherry pick that one | 08:23 |
| * seb128 tries | 08:23 | |
| Laney | we have it | 08:24 |
| seb128 | yeah, it's older that I though | 08:25 |
| pitti | Laney: oh, that seems to translate to an xkb option 'compose:caps', so it seems limited by that; in the older versions you could assign any key to it, I guess it poked it in xmodmap-like | 08:26 |
| pitti | well, I'll find out how to configure xmodmap directly | 08:26 |
| ogra_ | pitti, luckily Mir will fix that by giving the user full rw access to all files in 7dev/input, so you can plug your own thing on top :P | 08:27 |
| Laney | I suppose we must have been keeping the old panel in the ibus revert | 08:27 |
| pitti | ogra_: *cough* | 08:28 |
| Laney | didn't really look into that stuff | 08:28 |
| * ogra_ grins | 08:28 | |
| seb128 | Laney, yes, we had reverted g-s-d/g-c-c because our old indicator was based on the g-s-d systray's code | 08:28 |
| Laney | yeah | 08:28 |
| seb128 | which got away in the input code rewrite | 08:28 |
| seb128 | went* | 08:28 |
| Laney | anyway, I personally like using caps lock for compose which is still possible | 08:29 |
| Laney | so har de har :P | 08:29 |
| seb128 | where is the UI to configure that? | 08:29 |
| Laney | Keyboard -> Shortcuts -> Typing | 08:29 |
| seb128 | waouh, how non obvious | 08:30 |
| seb128 | I was looking for an icon in the input method tab | 08:30 |
| seb128 | Laney, thanks | 08:30 |
| pitti | seb128: text entry settings in the indicator -> "Keyboard settings" link in the lower right | 08:30 |
| pitti | (gets you to the same dialog, but slightly more obvious) | 08:31 |
| seb128 | pitti, ah, right, danke | 08:31 |
| Laney | Maybe so, depends what you're used to I guess | 08:31 |
| seb128 | what is "alternative characters key"? | 08:31 |
| Laney | I always went through keyboard to get to the old one | 08:31 |
| Laney | it's the one to type things like ¹²³€½¾{[]} | 08:32 |
| seb128 | ok, I've no idea how those work ;-) | 08:33 |
| pitti | I use compose for those | 08:33 |
| Laney | It does the same thing as alt-gr for me | 08:33 |
| Laney | but maybe not every keyboard has that | 08:33 |
| pitti | seb128: in better news, new ThinkPad == :) | 08:34 |
| seb128 | pitti, did you get it running? | 08:34 |
| pitti | raring installs without a hitch with EFI/SecureBoot etc., just saucy acts up | 08:34 |
| seb128 | pitti, how did you solve it? | 08:34 |
| seb128 | oh | 08:34 |
| seb128 | so saucy regression :/ | 08:35 |
| pitti | so, install raring + dist-upgrade | 08:35 |
| seb128 | seems like something we better fix before release | 08:35 |
| pitti | it seems the saucy installer leaves an empty /boot/efi/ partition | 08:35 |
| seb128 | pitti, can you still test saucy installs now that you did that? | 08:35 |
| pitti | seb128: yes, I suppose I can make a backup of the EFI partition, dd it to zero, and reinstall | 08:35 |
| pitti | and keep my /home | 08:36 |
| seb128 | pitti, I guess you opened a bug/mentioned it to slangasek? | 08:36 |
| pitti | seb128: not yet, but I will | 08:36 |
| seb128 | happyaron, hey, are you back yet or still on holidays? I would like to get you opinion on https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-settings-daemon/+bug/1230265, if you have one | 08:39 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 1230265 in gnome-settings-daemon (Ubuntu) "gnome-settings-daemon doesn't detect Anthy(Japanese Input Method) automatically." [Undecided,New] | 08:39 |
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| * Laney spams lp mail around | 09:31 | |
| seb128 | Laney, bug triaging? | 09:33 |
| Laney | closing uss upstream bug tracker | 09:33 |
| seb128 | do we need to delete all the bugs to do that? | 09:33 |
| Laney | i gave them all ubuntu tasks | 09:33 |
| seb128 | I had it on my todolist but it was not a priority for saucy release so I was delaying to after hard freeze | 09:34 |
| Laney | just wrote a lp api script | 09:34 |
| Laney | pretty easy | 09:34 |
| seb128 | cool | 09:34 |
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| Laney | seb128: have you been Fix Releaseding bugs for hidden things? | 09:40 |
| seb128 | Laney, you mean? | 09:41 |
| Laney | bug #1229223 | 09:41 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 1229223 in ubuntu-system-settings (Ubuntu) "Reset launcher and background doesn't reset launcher nor background" [Low,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1229223 | 09:41 |
| Laney | fix released? | 09:41 |
| seb128 | oh, no | 09:41 |
| seb128 | I kept them as low | 09:41 |
| seb128 | they are still work we need to do | 09:41 |
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| tjaalton | seb128: hey, our cairo doesn't seem to have gl/egl support, mind if I merge 1.12.16-2 from debian? | 09:47 |
| seb128 | tjaalton, seems like a feature, do you have an approved ffe? | 09:48 |
| seb128 | oh | 09:48 |
| seb128 | no, don't | 09:48 |
| tjaalton | it's blocking wayland/weston ffe | 09:49 |
| seb128 | tjaalton, that's the old "the nvidia driver makes each GL process use 10MB of memory, which means every cairo/gtk app when building cairo with GL" | 09:49 |
| tjaalton | ah | 09:49 |
| tjaalton | bummer | 09:49 |
| seb128 | you remember this one or want reference to the details? | 09:49 |
| tjaalton | well it'll block us moving to mesa 10.0 when it's released | 09:49 |
| tjaalton | no I remember the bug | 09:49 |
| seb128 | why is that blocking this update? | 09:50 |
| tjaalton | or just ignore weston | 09:50 |
| seb128 | ignore weston I guess | 09:50 |
| seb128 | we can't just add that load on every nvidia user | 09:50 |
| seb128 | well, we should maybe check that their drivers still have the issue | 09:50 |
| tjaalton | so, mesa has a MRE now, but upstream moved to a three month release cadence | 09:51 |
| tjaalton | but we have new hw coming up 'sometime soon', that might need us to move to mesa 10.1-ish as an sru :/ | 09:52 |
| seb128 | you said the only problem with the update is weston? | 09:52 |
| seb128 | screw weston in this case, we don't use it | 09:52 |
| tjaalton | this is why i'd like to update wayland | 09:52 |
| tjaalton | yeah | 09:53 |
| tjaalton | I'll just finish the ffe | 09:53 |
| seb128 | thanks | 09:53 |
| tjaalton | lp1236260 | 09:59 |
| pitti | does anyone use google for empathy, shotwell and friends in the "online accounts" settings? | 10:05 |
| seb128 | pitti, o/ | 10:06 |
| pitti | it now always seems to forget the credentials after a few hours | 10:06 |
| pitti | and I don't get the google web page any more, just two GTK input lines for user/password | 10:06 |
| pitti | can anyone confirm? | 10:06 |
| seb128 | pitti, it's not specific to online accounts to me, firefox keeps asking me to auth again as well | 10:06 |
| seb128 | pitti, yes, I can confirm | 10:06 |
| pitti | is that "show auth web page" -> "show input lines" change intended? | 10:07 |
| seb128 | yes | 10:07 |
| seb128 | it's a better UI/more integrated | 10:07 |
| pitti | ok, so the bug is that it keeps forgetting it | 10:07 |
| seb128 | yes | 10:07 |
| pitti | seb128: I agree, it definitvely looks nicer | 10:07 |
| seb128 | it's not happening in firefox for you? | 10:07 |
| * pitti checks again | 10:07 | |
| seb128 | it's driving me nuts, I've to auth in firefox like 5 times a day for some weeks | 10:07 |
| pitti | seb128: no, I'm still logged in with both my accounts | 10:08 |
| seb128 | ok, weird | 10:08 |
| pitti | I only need to re-login perhaps once every two weeks | 10:08 |
| seb128 | well maybe check with mardy then, in case that's a known issue in the online account stack | 10:08 |
| seb128 | I assumed it was something on the google side because I keep being un-auth in firefox as well | 10:08 |
| seb128 | pitti, I guess you restore your firefox sessions? | 10:23 |
| pitti | seb128: yes | 10:23 |
| pitti | "something unexpected has happened" exercise at every boot :) | 10:24 |
| seb128 | pitti, ok, I get logged out if I restart firefox with the setting set to "open my startpage" | 10:24 |
| seb128 | pitti, I don't if I do "restore my previously opened tabs" | 10:24 |
| seb128 | the issue happens in chromium as well | 10:25 |
| seb128 | I wonder if google get stricter in their auth, or if that's part of their "replacing cookies" or something | 10:25 |
| tjaalton | pitti: hey, I assigned bug #1234424 to you, but I can merge it too | 10:35 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 1234424 in pm-utils (Ubuntu) "Don't quirk SVGA if vmwgfx kernel driver is loaded" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1234424 | 10:35 |
| pitti | tjaalton: I saw, thanks; I can handle it, and commit it to Debian | 10:36 |
| pitti | (so that we stay in sync) | 10:36 |
| tjaalton | pitti: ah good, yeah I figured you wanted to do that | 10:36 |
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| happyaron | seb128: today is the last day. | 12:30 |
| happyaron | seb128: I think removing that patch is acceptable, if it does make it work. | 12:31 |
| happyaron | I can do some testing later, if needed. | 12:31 |
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| tjaalton | should lightm still allow choosing the login session? | 12:53 |
| tjaalton | *lightdm | 12:53 |
| tjaalton | I don't see any way to choose | 12:54 |
| seb128 | tjaalton, yes, there is a cog icon next to the password entry | 13:03 |
| tjaalton | I don't see it here | 13:04 |
| seb128 | happyaron, enjoy your end of holiday, and yes testing would be welcome tomorrow if you can do that | 13:04 |
| seb128 | tjaalton, did the issue start today? (I didn't restart with the new lightdm yet), do you have other sessions installes in /usr/share/xsessions? | 13:04 |
| tjaalton | seb128: it's the same on an older installation not upgraded today | 13:05 |
| tjaalton | though it doesn't have other sessions installed | 13:06 |
| seb128 | that's why then | 13:06 |
| tjaalton | ah it does | 13:06 |
| seb128 | it does what? have sessions? or has a selector? | 13:06 |
| tjaalton | have sessions | 13:07 |
| tjaalton | gnome & ubuntu | 13:07 |
| seb128 | great | 13:08 |
| seb128 | Laney, weird, doing LANG=C system-settings or LANG=en_GB system-settings, on current saucy, with your branch the month names are lowercase for me | 13:17 |
| seb128 | Laney, in any case it's a detail, approving, I'm just unsure why we get different results | 13:17 |
| tjaalton | seb128: ok now that I installed gnome-shell it does show the cog and two options | 13:29 |
| seb128 | tjaalton, ok, works as intended there | 13:29 |
| seb128 | then | 13:29 |
| tjaalton | contents of /usr/share/xsessions didn't change though | 13:30 |
| tjaalton | is that even used anymore | 13:30 |
| seb128 | tjaalton, yes, those are the entries listed by lightdm | 13:33 |
| seb128 | tjaalton, you had a session file for gnome-shell there before having gnome-shell installed? | 13:33 |
| tjaalton | but both that are there are installed by gnome-session | 13:33 |
| tjaalton | no | 13:33 |
| tjaalton | ah | 13:34 |
| tjaalton | yes | 13:34 |
| seb128 | there is a tryexec key | 13:34 |
| seb128 | they are only valid if the binary they correspond to are install | 13:34 |
| Laney | seb128: WEIRD! | 13:34 |
| tjaalton | ok | 13:34 |
| seb128 | tjaalton, but weird, http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?searchon=contents&keywords=gnome-shell.desktop&mode=exactfilename&suite=saucy&arch=any | 13:35 |
| tjaalton | it's just gnome.desktop | 13:36 |
| seb128 | tjaalton, that confirms what I though, the .session should come from gnome-shell, dunno what version of gnome-session you have to have the file coming from there | 13:36 |
| seb128 | tjaalton, oh, right | 13:36 |
| seb128 | tjaalton, so yeah, that's due to the tryexec | 13:36 |
| seb128 | Laney, yeah, I've no idea what's different between our systems | 13:37 |
| tjaalton | seb128: alrighty | 13:37 |
| Laney | well the french months are lowercase here | 13:37 |
| Laney | I bet it's to do with that somehow | 13:37 |
| Laney | eds works btw, and I have no goa process running | 13:38 |
| Laney | + evo with calendar in indicator | 13:38 |
| seb128 | Laney, oh ok, it probably use lc_time or something rather than the locale | 13:38 |
| seb128 | Laney, indeed, if I set the LC as well as LANG I get an uppercase | 13:38 |
| seb128 | Laney, @eds: nice, upload! ;-) | 13:38 |
| Laney | ah | 13:38 |
| Laney | jibel: hey | 13:42 |
| Laney | jibel: do you know why jenkins.qa.u.c doesn't show glib-networking's autopkgtest? | 13:43 |
| Laney | also, how are you? :-) | 13:43 |
| jibel | Hey Laney, I'm fine and you? | 13:44 |
| jibel | Laney, have these tests been added recently? | 13:44 |
| Laney | pretty good | 13:44 |
| Laney | yes | 13:44 |
| Laney | 2013-10-03 | 13:45 |
| jibel | Laney, okay glib-networking 2.38.0-1~ubuntu2, looking | 13:45 |
| Laney | I bet I did something wrong :P | 13:46 |
| jibel | Laney, the package looks good, but britney didn't submit the first test request. That's a case we already had. | 13:48 |
| jibel | I'll resubmit a test request that will create the job | 13:49 |
| Laney | ubuntu1 had debian/tests/* but no XS-Testsuite header | 13:49 |
| Laney | might have confused matters | 13:49 |
| seb128 | pitti, hey, https://code.launchpad.net/~dannf/ubuntu/saucy/udisks/lp1235051/+merge/189203 is in the sponsoring queue ... should I just sponsor it or would you prefer to get that through Debian? | 14:17 |
| pitti | seb128: udisks is dead (we should get rid of it in the default install, argh) | 14:23 |
| pitti | seb128: so I don't particularly mind it being out of sync, so go ahead | 14:23 |
| seb128 | pitti, well, it was just to clean the queue, I don't especially care either ... I don't think arm64 is a goal for saucy, I'm just going to put it work in progress until next cycle and upload it if nobody uploaded that to debian by then | 14:24 |
| pitti | xnox: ^ what's the status for the usb-creator port, OOI? | 14:25 |
| seb128 | attente, hey | 14:28 |
| attente | hi seb128 | 14:29 |
| seb128 | attente, how are you? | 14:29 |
| attente | i'm good | 14:29 |
| attente | is this about the media-keys problem? | 14:30 |
| seb128 | attente, I'm looking at https://code.launchpad.net/~attente/gnome-settings-daemon/non-latin-media-keys/+merge/189369 ... but I'm not sure I understand keyboards enough to judge it | 14:30 |
| seb128 | judge->review | 14:30 |
| attente | oh. that just adds an extra step where it checks the keyboard shortcut by keycode if all else fails | 14:31 |
| seb128 | attente, can you try to give me a bit more context/details? is GNOME having the same issue? if not,why not? | 14:31 |
| attente | GNOME isn't having this issue, no | 14:31 |
| seb128 | how do they workaround/solve it? (or what do they do differently/can we do the same) | 14:32 |
| attente | if i have to guess, something changed at the xkb level | 14:32 |
| attente | seb128, i don't know if they need a workaround as it isn't a problem for them | 14:32 |
| attente | this is strictly an ubuntu problem as far as i can tell | 14:33 |
| seb128 | why is it a problem for us and not for them? | 14:33 |
| seb128 | what do we do differently? | 14:33 |
| attente | i'm not sure, maybe mir does something differently with keyboard group implementation? | 14:33 |
| attente | all i can think of is that we need changes in g-s-d and gtk... leading me to suspect the problem lies lower in the stack | 14:35 |
| seb128 | attente, hum, we don't use Mir in saucy, so it can't be Mir | 14:36 |
| seb128 | we are still on plain old good xorg | 14:36 |
| xnox | seb128: please upload. | 14:36 |
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| seb128 | attente, is gnome-shell having issues on Ubuntu? | 14:36 |
| attente | seb128, yes | 14:36 |
| seb128 | xnox, upload what? the arm64 build fix? | 14:36 |
| attente | seb128, same issue | 14:36 |
| xnox | pitti: usb-creator port, didn't fix it since original porting (still broken) was done. | 14:36 |
| xnox | seb128: udisks/dh_autoreconf, yeap. | 14:37 |
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| seb128 | xnox, is that important for saucy? it seems like we are not going that port complete before release :p | 14:37 |
| seb128 | attente, ok, so maybe a but in our xorg stack then | 14:37 |
| xnox | seb128: every little helps. | 14:38 |
| xnox | seb128: i suspect that port will take off ahead of /me finding time to port usb-creator. | 14:38 |
| seb128 | xnox, ok | 14:38 |
| attente | seb128, what do you think about trying to fix it at the g-s-d/gtk+ level? | 14:40 |
| seb128 | attente, did you try pinging rtcm (the GNOME guy who works on the ibus/keyboard stack) about it, in case he knows what it could be? | 14:40 |
| seb128 | attente, well, I think that if you say it works on other distros, then we should be able to get it working too by fixing whatever is wrong | 14:41 |
| attente | seb128, i can again, but he wasn't sure what the problem was | 14:41 |
| attente | i could only conclude we're doing something strange on our end | 14:41 |
| seb128 | attente, it that specific to g-s-d session? | 14:41 |
| seb128 | I'm not even sure to understand the issue | 14:41 |
| seb128 | e.g if you run a GNOME classic session with gnome-panel, is the issue there? | 14:42 |
| attente | i haven't tried GNOME classic | 14:42 |
| attente | i'll try it | 14:42 |
| seb128 | attente, thanks | 14:44 |
| seb128 | attente, I'm fine adding patches to g-s-d/gtk if that makes things work, but it feels like a workaround (saying that on the fact that other distros don't have the issue without that code, so it shouldn't be strictly needed) | 14:45 |
| Laney | pushed gsd | 14:45 |
| attente | seb128, so these are actually two different problems it seems | 14:48 |
| attente | the g-s-d media keys problem affects GNOME classic, gnome-shell, and unity | 14:49 |
| attente | but the problem on the gtk+ side seems to only affect unity | 14:49 |
| seb128 | ok | 14:49 |
| seb128 | so with your g-s-d patch the keys work as they should out of unity? | 14:49 |
| attente | seb128, sorry i guess i forgot to check it, it doesn't seem to work outside of unity... | 14:52 |
| attente | this problem is really strange... | 14:53 |
| seb128 | attente, is that problem happening in a "basic" session without the indicators? | 14:53 |
| seb128 | attente, e.g a stock gnome-panel one | 14:53 |
| seb128 | or simpler than that an openbox or something with g-s-d running | 14:53 |
| attente | seb128, i'm running in gnome classic right now and the problem persists even with the patch | 14:55 |
| attente | i guess i don't understand the problem as well as i thought i did | 14:55 |
| seb128 | attente, ok, I'm going to discard that patch for this upload then | 14:56 |
| attente | seb128, ok | 14:56 |
| seb128 | attente, is the problem due to g-s-d ? | 14:56 |
| attente | i don't believe so | 14:57 |
| attente | if i had to guess, it's happening at the x level | 14:57 |
| seb128 | attente, how do I reproduce? is that like "start a session, configure a non latin keymap (e.g russian), try to use multimedia keys"? | 14:57 |
| attente | seb128, yes | 14:57 |
| seb128 | well I guess without g-s-d there is no handler for those :/ | 14:57 |
| Laney | the media keys are broken in non-shell-non-unity gnome sessions | 14:58 |
| Laney | don't get confused with that bug | 14:58 |
| Laney | which is the patch I just pushed to gsd git | 14:58 |
| Laney | erm, bzr | 14:58 |
| attente | oh. | 14:58 |
| attente | interesting | 14:58 |
| Laney | i.e. try merging with that | 14:58 |
| attente | Laney, ok, will do | 14:59 |
| seb128 | shrug | 15:00 |
| seb128 | attente, ok, so an unity session with "ru" as default keymap and fr/us next to it, multimedia keys work | 15:01 |
| attente | seb128, does ctrl+alt+t work for you? | 15:01 |
| seb128 | attente, no, it doesn't | 15:02 |
| seb128 | that's the issue I guess? | 15:02 |
| attente | yes | 15:03 |
| attente | seb128, let me try to merge trunk and see if it's fixed on all three | 15:04 |
| attente | seb128, ok, so still same result, only fixes on unity | 15:17 |
| seb128 | attente, do you try with ctrl-alt-t? | 15:18 |
| attente | seb128, yep, with arabic, greek, russian, none work | 15:18 |
| attente | i guess don't worry about that patch then | 15:18 |
| seb128 | attente, stop using ctrl-al-t as a testcase | 15:19 |
| attente | seb128, why? | 15:19 |
| seb128 | attente, the unity testing is buggy, bind another command, e.g ctrl-alt-c to calculator | 15:19 |
| seb128 | attente, because compiz has a custom binding for ctrl-alt-t | 15:19 |
| seb128 | it might be that it works through compiz | 15:19 |
| seb128 | not due to the g-s-d action | 15:19 |
| attente | but the action is configurable through g-c-c | 15:20 |
| seb128 | attente, I've ctrl-alt-t working but ctrl-alt-u to another action not working | 15:20 |
| seb128 | right | 15:20 |
| seb128 | but I think both might fight | 15:20 |
| seb128 | which is yet another bug | 15:20 |
| seb128 | but better to use a non conflict binding for your testing | 15:20 |
| seb128 | just rebind to ctrl-alt-c or something | 15:20 |
| attente | ok | 15:20 |
| seb128 | attente, ok, at least I can confirm the bug and that it doesn't seem to be the unity, indicator or ibus (I get the issue without those) | 15:33 |
| seb128 | e.g I'm in unity session where I unloaded the unity plugin from compiz and I moved away the indicator .service to avoid dbus activation and killed ibus | 15:33 |
| seb128 | and I change layouts with "setxkbmap <layout>" | 15:34 |
| attente | seb128, ok | 15:34 |
| attente | the patch only fixes in unity, so best to reject the MP | 15:35 |
| seb128 | ok | 15:35 |
| seb128 | Laney, ^ feel free to upload the other changes if you want | 15:35 |
| seb128 | (if you don't I'm going to do in a bit, still trying to help debugging a bit more the multimedia key issue) | 15:35 |
| Laney | will do | 15:36 |
| attente | seb128, application shortcuts are also affected, but only under unity | 15:37 |
| jibel | Laney, https://jenkins.qa.ubuntu.com/view/Saucy/view/AutoPkgTest/job/saucy-adt-glib-networking/ | 16:00 |
| Laney | jibel: awesome, thanks! | 16:01 |
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| attente | seb128, how do you opt-out your device from image-based updates? | 16:32 |
| seb128 | attente, I don't why? | 16:36 |
| Laney | make it writable, never update | 16:36 |
| Laney | or use cdimage-touch | 16:36 |
| Laney | in both cases you can use apt | 16:37 |
| Laney | but you'll drift on the android side of stuff i guess | 16:37 |
| seb128 | attente, touch /userdata/.writable_image | 16:37 |
| Laney | and not be testing the proper thing | 16:37 |
| seb128 | attente, if you are looking at how making the image writable | 16:37 |
| seb128 | then reboot | 16:37 |
| seb128 | then you can use apt etc | 16:37 |
| attente | ok, thanks | 16:37 |
| seb128 | attente, btw, that keyboard issue does looks like an xorg issue | 16:38 |
| attente | seb128, is someone looking into it? | 16:38 |
| seb128 | attente, it's happening with g-s-d/g-c-c downgraded to 3.6 from raring and it's happening in xfce with their settings manager | 16:38 |
| attente | ok | 16:39 |
| seb128 | attente, and xfce is gtk2 which didn't change lot | 16:39 |
| seb128 | attente, I just got stubborn trying to find the buggy component... | 16:39 |
| seb128 | attente, but well, I ruled out g-s-d ibus indicator-keyboard and gtk3 | 16:39 |
| attente | yeah, i guess i just figured it was fixable on the g-s-d gtk side of things | 16:40 |
| seb128 | attente, I'm going to try next to start from raring and upgrade selected component (like xorg-server) to try to figure out which one starts the issue | 16:40 |
| seb128 | attente, are you working on the phone settings back atm? | 16:40 |
| seb128 | attente, maybe do something else that the crazy media key stuff for a while | 16:40 |
| attente | seb128, sure, will do | 16:40 |
| seb128 | attente, it would be nice to make the change to restrict the language list to the one that have a locale generated on disk | 16:41 |
| seb128 | the list atm is long and most choices don't work | 16:41 |
| attente | seb128, ok | 16:41 |
| seb128 | attente, if that's not easy to do, we might just hardcode it to zh/es/pt/de/fr, those are the langpack we install | 16:41 |
| seb128 | thanks | 16:42 |
| seb128 | Laney, thanks for uploading g-s-d! | 16:42 |
| Laney | kein problem! | 16:43 |
| * Laney found a tin of altoids to reward himself with | 16:43 | |
| Laney | yum yum | 16:43 |
| Laney | will have to restock in CA | 16:44 |
| seb128 | what is altoids? | 16:45 |
| * seb128 googles | 16:45 | |
| seb128 | oh, cinnamon's sweets? | 16:45 |
| seb128 | not only cinnamon, google image has peppermint ones as well | 16:45 |
| Laney | never had that kind | 16:46 |
| xclaesse | Uh, apport launch chrome when sending a crash report | 16:48 |
| xclaesse | instead of firefox | 16:48 |
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| seb128 | ok, enough for today | 17:34 |
| seb128 | 'night everyone | 17:34 |
| ogra_ | ciao seb128 | 17:40 |
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