[03:45] <roasted> kristal: I would say fedora is likely the most intertwined with gnome development, from what I can see.
[03:45] <roasted> biggest gnome distro? not sure about that. could be though.
[03:45] <kristal> roasted: Ya there's corporate sponsored gnome devs
[03:46] <roasted> debian has always had a lot of contributions in the gnome arena
[03:46] <roasted> I understand opensuse is really solid in that regard too, but not entirely positive.
[03:55] <roasted> are any of you having issues on adding a printer?
[03:55] <bjsnider> most of the core gnome devs use fedora with intel hardware
[03:55] <roasted> each and *every* time I try to add a printer in 13.10, the entire printer dialog crashes.
[03:57] <roasted> of course system-config-printer doesn't crash, just gnome's newer print menu (which is trash)
[04:18] <darkxst> roasted, file a bug with backtrace of the crash
[04:18] <roasted> can you elaborate on how I would get a backtrace?
[04:18] <darkxst> you probably have a crash dump in /var/crash
[04:19] <darkxst> just run ubuntu-bug /var/crash/*file*
[04:19] <roasted> I assume it'd be gcc?
[04:20] <darkxst> yup
[04:23] <roasted> it's reporting I cannot report the bug because I have obsolete packages. It gives me a list of about 15 things to upgrade, but synaptic says nothing when I hit mark all upgrades.
[07:34] <darkxst> roasted, are you using 3.8 or 3.10?
[07:45] <darkxst> roasted, odd, I tried to add a printer (althought g-c-c can't find my network printer) and I got a python crash in s-c-p
[07:45] <tom___> hi
[07:45] <darkxst> hi tom___
[07:46] <tom___> tried the latest build and I like it a lot ... just wanted to say that .
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[13:48] <Ponch0> Hey guys is there a way to safely remove older version of eclipse and install a newer version?
[15:39] <matanya> darkxst: mind updating system-montir extension to 3.10?
[20:17] <palsec> hello. i installed the ubuntu 13.10 beta with the gnome flavour and i am missing menu objects in the "system settings". e.g. "appearances"
[20:18] <palsec> how can i troubleshoot this, please?
[21:14] <darkxst> matanya, yes it will be updated soon
[21:32] <darkxst> palsec, Appearance is an Ubuntu panel which we don't ship
[21:32] <palsec> oh i see
[23:12] <tarzan> hi all how are u?