[01:37] <infinity> tjaalton: Can you make up your mind about libatomic-ops-dev? :P
[01:37] <infinity> tjaalton: Oh, it was doko who added it, not you.
[01:38] <infinity> tjaalton: Why is it no longer necessary?
[04:04] <tjaalton> infinity: the xmir patch on xorg-server got fixed
[04:08] <infinity> tjaalton: Yeah, I sorted that eventually.
[11:41] <rbasak> Could someone review bug 1209493 for an FFe, please? It's ready to land.
[11:41] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 1209493 in subversion (Ubuntu) "[FFe] libapache2-svn missing in saucy" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1209493
[11:47] <infinity> rbasak: Why not merge instead of cherry-pick?  Some of nmu4 looks worthwhile too.
[11:48] <rbasak> infinity: I was focused on a specific bug for the FFe since that's the one I wanted to justify.
[11:48] <rbasak> I can do a merge instead if you're fine with that.
[11:48] <infinity> rbasak: I'd prefer the merge, TBH.
[11:52] <rbasak> np, I'll prepare a merge instead.
[11:52] <rbasak> Thanks
[12:04] <lool> ^ qtbase-opensource-src was tested by Mirv, I just sponsored it; it's a bugfix that he confirmed fixes what it was supposed to fix and he tested it doesn't regress apps on the touch image
[12:24] <Mirv> I'm also running the qtbase update on desktop (Qt Creator etc), but most testing done on touch (all autopilot tests + manual testing)
[13:21] <plars> infinity: we should be seeing rc candidate images at some point today I guess?
[13:33] <jdstrand> can someone approve click-apparmor 0.1.11-- it is touch only and has been approved by #ubuntu-ci-eng
[13:34] <xnox> plars: no.
[13:34] <cjwatson> ^- I think libprelude will actually FTBFS, but I'm getting it back into sync before uploading a build fix, basically to avoid having to do a merge later
[13:35] <cjwatson> forgot it'd be frozen ...
[14:05]  * cjwatson attacks the last few Apache 2.4 stragglers
[14:25] <Laney> seb128: I have a couple more patches for g-s-d
[14:25] <Laney> can I reject yours and include them
[14:25] <Laney> ?
[14:26] <seb128> Laney, which ones?
[14:26] <Laney> one from darkxst to fix media keys
[14:26] <Laney> and https://code.launchpad.net/~attente/gnome-settings-daemon/non-latin-media-keys/+merge/189369 which I've not reviewed yet
[14:26] <seb128> Laney, there is more work at flux for keyboard stuff but I was unsure if we wanted to mix it all, or get that obvious fix in and do anothe upload
[14:26] <seb128> Laney, ok, your call on whether you want to delay/batch them
[14:26] <seb128> I'm not picky
[14:27] <Laney> you might want to review that
[14:27] <seb128> I had a look, that's where I decided to upload the obvious one first and do another upload later :p
[14:27] <Laney> fair
[14:27] <seb128> Laney, I need to ask details to attente, I don't understand the problem/solution enough to make sense of the code
[14:27] <Laney> well I at least want to do Tim's
[14:27] <Laney> ta
[14:28] <seb128> yw
[14:28] <cjwatson> tjaalton: Could you look at http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=725701 fairly urgently?  We need to get rid of the Apache 2.2 remnants in time for saucy.
[14:28] <ubot2> Debian bug 725701 in 389-admin "389-admin: port to Apache 2.4" [Important,Open]
[14:31] <seb128> Laney, hold a bit on the upload if you want to do one, discussing the patch on #ubuntu-desktop now
[14:32] <Laney> ok
[14:32] <Laney> rejecting anyway
[14:32] <Laney> I'll push tim's thing to bzr
[14:33] <tjaalton> cjwatson: oh, sure
[14:33] <tjaalton> thanks
[14:37] <cjwatson> self-rejecting gnutls26, slight bug, fixing
[14:37] <tjaalton> sigh, the sponsor for 389-admin never pushed git, grr
[14:37] <tjaalton> and haven't seen him since
[14:45] <tjaalton> cjwatson: i wonder if a rebase to upstream 1.1.35 would be in order.. it's not like these are widely used
[14:46] <tjaalton> 20 commits
[14:48] <cjwatson> tjaalton: If it doesn't break FF
[14:48] <cjwatson> tjaalton: I think you'd still need the patches I added/changed aside from apache-2.4.patch
[14:48] <tjaalton> sure
[14:49] <tjaalton> i guess it falls under bugfix-release
[14:53] <cjwatson> jdstrand: accepted, sorry for the delay
[14:54] <jdstrand> cjwatson: thanls
[14:54] <jdstrand> thanks even
[14:55]  * stgraber starts doing some queue review
[15:05] <cjwatson> ^- better this time
[15:17] <cyphermox> Laney: re: bug 1234887
[15:17] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 1234887 in network-manager (Ubuntu) "[FFE] Update NetworkManager to 0.9.8.4" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1234887
[15:17] <cyphermox> ^ the soname doesn't change but there is a (minimal) new feature... so I've marked this as a FFE
[15:18] <cyphermox> I'd very much like to land this as it contains quite a lot of useful bug fixes, but I realize it's quite late
[15:18] <Laney> cyphermox: what's 4a4d58a libnm-glib: bump soname then?
[15:19] <cyphermox> confusing -- http://paste.ubuntu.com/6205347/
[15:19] <cyphermox> as a result, unless I'm misreading, the soname doesn't change
[15:20] <cyphermox> appologies for the not diff -u output ;)
[15:20] <cyphermox> I'll still do a build test for the reverse-deps, just saying it's not a transition
[15:42] <Laney> cyphermox: mmm, seems fine then
[15:42] <Laney> in that regard anyway
[15:42] <Laney> has it been well tested?
[15:51] <cyphermox> Laney: I'm still working on that
[16:00]  * cjwatson self-rejects the libprelude sync in favour of a build-fixing upload
[16:21] <Laney> Riddell: is opencv meant to remove debian/*.docs?
[16:26] <Riddell> Laney: yeah that's deliberate
[16:27] <Laney> Would be nice if it were in the changelog
[16:28] <Laney> is it because installdocs installs it anyway?
[16:31] <Laney> Riddell: Can you forward or ask the sponsoree to forward both of these things to Debian? It looks like http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=720092#22 is false
[16:31] <ubot2> Debian bug 720092 in src:opencv "Please package ocl" [Wishlist,Open]
[16:32] <Laney> At least assuming your build-dep is right
[16:34] <Riddell> Laney: yeah will poke him
[16:34] <Laney> ok
[16:34] <Laney> accepting
[16:43] <rbasak> infinity: I've prepared a merge for bug 1209493
[16:43] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 1209493 in subversion (Ubuntu) "[FFe] libapache2-svn missing in saucy" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1209493
[16:44] <rbasak> infinity: could you provide a final ack now please, and I'll find a sponsor?
[17:40] <slangasek> infinity: you're still killing off the linux-ti-omap4 package, right, so I can ignore the build failure here?: http://people.ubuntuwire.org/~wgrant/rebuild-ftbfs-test/test-rebuild-20130917-saucy.html
[17:40] <ogra_> *sniff* ppor pandas
[17:40] <ogra_> *poor even
[17:41] <slangasek> they can still run the server images :)
[17:41] <cjwatson> huh, can they if we remove that kernel?
[17:41] <ogra_> faceless servers, yeah :/
[17:41] <ogra_> cjwatson, they run fine with mainline
[17:42] <ogra_> the GPU driver doesnt
[17:42] <cjwatson> aha, ok
[17:42] <ogra_> i wish we had decided to do a panda touch image ... that would come in so handy for test setups
[17:43] <ogra_> (though that would have used the same kernel)
[21:31] <infinity> slangasek: Yes, ti-omap4 is dying this week.
[21:32] <Laney> does that include the xorg revert?
[21:32] <infinity> Laney: Yes.
[21:32] <Laney> excellent
[21:32] <infinity> plars: Not unless today is Thursday and I slept in even longer than I thought.
[22:00] <stgraber> queuebot was asleep but there's a very small lxc change in the queue if someone could review it
[22:01]  * infinity snickers at all the "dnlcpp..." dependencies in the latest cross uploads.
[22:01] <stgraber> Laney: that evolution-data-server change scares me a bit after FeatureFreeze and that close to release. What exactly will happen to existing users? will their existing accounts just disappear, will they magically still work, does that change affect the UI?
[22:02] <stgraber> Laney: it seems like this falls under the "can't get any worse" reason for accepting but I'd prefer to confirm it first ;)
[22:06] <Laney> stgraber: The accounts will still be in Online Accounts, but they won't be integrated with e-d-s any more
[22:06] <Laney> If it somehow worked for you then that'll stop obviously and you will need to re-add them in evo
[22:06] <Laney> I didn't think about the UIF aspect, but there are some toggles in Online Accounts that won't be there any more
[22:07] <Laney> (If you like, you can test what happens with the current setup by removing evolution-data-server-uoa)
[22:07] <stgraber> Laney: did we have that online account stuff enabled in previous releases?
[22:07] <Laney> It's new in Saucy
[22:07] <stgraber> ok
[22:07] <stgraber> what's the likelihood that someone actually managed to use that thing at some point in the cycle?
[22:08] <Laney> It wasn't completely busted
[22:08] <Laney> but broken enough in bad enough ways
[22:09] <stgraber> Laney: ok, get me an ubuntu-gnome lead to ack on this and I'll accept it
[22:09] <stgraber> (since they're the only ones actually seeding evolution)
[22:09] <Laney> ok, shouldn't affect them as I kept -goa as a Depends
[22:10] <Laney> (why is evolution-dbg supported for ubuntu?)
[22:10] <stgraber> Laney: probably somehow caught by the big regexp in supported
[22:10] <stgraber> Laney: ah good point, if they don't ship ubuntu-online-accounts then that shouldn't affect them at all
[22:10] <Laney> more flavours seed e-d-s btw
[22:11] <stgraber> sure but they won't be nearly as affected as say a user actually using evolution who suddenly won't see any account when opening it
[22:11] <Laney> There's the calendar integration in indicator-datetime
[22:12] <Laney> darkxst: ^^^ want to confirm my e-d-s changes in saucy unapproved look ok?
[22:13] <stgraber> Laney: ok, so that's edubuntu, ubuntu, ubuntu-touch and ubuntukylin then
[22:13] <stgraber> Laney: as an edubuntu lead, I don't care, we just want the same as Ubuntu
[22:14] <stgraber> Laney: touch I'm not sure about, isn't that how you're supposed to access your google contacts on the phone?
[22:14] <stgraber> (no idea if that even works, I don't use google myself)
[22:15] <darkxst> Laney, we use GOA so those changes wont affect us
[22:16] <stgraber> Laney: ok, so you're left with ubuntu-touch and ubuntukylin (which I suspect will just want the same as Ubuntu anyway)
[22:17] <Laney> stgraber: I think that touch thing syncs things into e-d-s
[22:20] <Laney> hmm
[22:20] <Laney> I've got to go, maybe do a safety reject and I'll follow up on those two tomorrow
[22:20] <stgraber> Laney: ok, thanks. I'll reject and I'm always happy to accept from the reject queue once we've confirmed it's fine for everyone.
[22:20] <Laney> k
[22:21] <stgraber> crap
[22:21] <Laney> hahaha
[22:21] <Laney> block time?
[22:21] <stgraber> wrong button and I wasn't quick enough
[22:21] <stgraber> yep, I'll push a block
[22:21] <stgraber> I don't like LP being fast these days, that escape was pressed within ms of me clicking the wrong UI button
[22:22] <infinity> "fast"
[22:22] <infinity> I don't think I've heard that accusation before.
[22:23] <Laney> JackYu: ^ can you check/confirm that removing evolution-data-server-uoa (pretty badly broken) in saucy is ok for kylin?
[22:55] <stgraber> bdmurray: ping
[22:56] <stgraber> bdmurray: the delta for ubuntu-release-upgrader looks a bit weird. The changelog only mentions the switch to pkexec but looking at the diff, I see command line option removal and UI elements removal too...
[22:56] <stgraber> (well, and the ton of usual ubuntu-release-upgrader changes whenever someone uploads it, but that I expected)
[22:58] <bdmurray> stgraber: is there a url that you are looking at?
[23:00] <stgraber> bdmurray: http://launchpadlibrarian.net/152567426/ubuntu-release-upgrader_1%3A0.204_1%3A0.205.diff.gz
[23:02] <bdmurray> the UI element removal is related to showing the release notes which is redundant because do-release-upgrade shows them
[23:03] <bdmurray> the --test-uri option was just to show the release notes which check-new-release-gtk will no longer be doing
[23:03] <stgraber> ok
[23:04] <stgraber> that's all I noticed so I guess that's fine then, accepting
[23:04] <bdmurray> okay, thanks.  I'll be more verbose in the future.
[23:18] <JackYu> Laney, sure, will check soon.
[23:23] <jdstrand> fyi, per landing page, dbus and apparmor-easyprof-ubuntu uploads are coming
[23:51] <lool> jdstrand: is there an usual reviewer for apparmor-easyprof-ubuntu?  I see it's seeded in supported
[23:52] <jdstrand> lool: you mean an archive admin?
[23:53] <lool> no, release team
[23:53] <jdstrand> I seeded it, but it isn't on the desktop image
[23:53] <jdstrand> no, not really
[23:53] <jdstrand> it is only on touch
[23:53] <lool> jdstrand: ok, because it's seeded outside of just touch it has to be reviewed by release team
[23:53] <lool> jdstrand: and obviously same for dbus
[23:54] <jdstrand> lool: I noted in the landing plan that I tested several webapps and click packages (the only things that use it)
[23:54] <jdstrand> right-- I mentioned 30 minutes ago they were coming
[23:54] <jdstrand> (in this channel)
[23:56] <lool> jdstrand: yup, seen that, was just hoping someone was already used to reviewing these  :-)
[23:56]  * jdstrand nods
[23:57] <infinity> To be fair, that apparmor-easyprof-ubuntu upload is pretty much unreviewable.
[23:57] <jdstrand> quite a bit of policy updates due to late landing and various changes
[23:57] <jdstrand> infinity: oh?
[23:57] <infinity> jdstrand: Well, not without taking hours to comb through it all. :P
[23:57] <jdstrand> I've reviewed it quite extensively :P
[23:57] <slangasek> if it's only on touch, it needs to be "reviewed" by the release team
[23:57] <infinity> Yeah.
[23:58] <slangasek> viz:
[23:58] <infinity> I'm not putting much effort into it, just looking for obvious glaring hilarity.
[23:58] <jdstrand> it is in the supported seed, but not any images other than touch
[23:58] <infinity> Or, slangasek can beat me to it.
[23:58] <jdstrand> I'm sponsoring the dbus one for tyhicks
[23:59] <slangasek> jdstrand: does apparmor-easyprof-ubuntu go through daily-landing-meatgrinder?
[23:59] <infinity> The dbus one, I'll have a closer look at.  But I also assume it's not as extensive?
[23:59] <jdstrand> slangasek: if you mean the landing page-- lool and I have been discussing it. this has an important change for webapps due to hybris changes with gstreamer, but also is required for two other landings