| ball | When I re-do this I may put Xubuntu back on it ...or perhaps Elementary. | 00:05 |
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| ball | Let's try this Ubuntu Software Center thing out. | 00:07 |
| ball | I'll probably be back later, after the updates are done. | 00:09 |
| ball | Bye daftykins! | 00:10 |
| === josie is now known as Guest93839 | ||
| MooDoo | morning all | 07:01 |
| === Lcawte|Away is now known as Lcawte | ||
| ging | why does ubuntu always hesitate so much when you give it the wrong password, i seem to know it's wrong before it does, is there some sort of rate limiting that no other OS seems to use or set so high? | 07:03 |
| BigRedS | yeah, it's ratelimiting | 07:04 |
| === Lcawte is now known as Lcawte|Away | ||
| MooDoo | ging: does this help you? - http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1176427 | 07:18 |
| ging | nope, it does not contain a petition to get the default delay time cut to atleast half | 07:22 |
| MooDoo | is there an entry in /etc/pam.d/login that has something like this in it? - auth optional pam_faildelay.so delay=3000000 | 07:24 |
| MooDoo | this is the page I got that from http://superuser.com/questions/165550/change-password-timeout-on-linux | 07:24 |
| jussi | INSECURITY!!! :P | 07:25 |
| jussi | I remember Linus complaining about this at some point... | 07:25 |
| MooDoo | yeah I know, I'm just googling for them ;) | 07:25 |
| ging | being able to change it doesn't help me, i'm not going to go round and change it on every ubuntu machine i have to use, it will take me forever | 07:26 |
| MooDoo | in that case, don't get your password wrong ;) | 07:27 |
| ging | i just thing, imagine all those 2 seconds that get wasted, all that lost productivity, could be cut in half and still be just as secure | 07:33 |
| shauno | devil's advocate could argue that if people aren't capable of typing something they use daily, they're probably losing much more than 2 seconds a day elsewhere | 07:41 |
| SuperMatt | I would say that rate limiting bad passwords is perfectly acceptable | 07:42 |
| SuperMatt | because it keep brute force attacks from being anywhere near viable | 07:43 |
| SuperMatt | and at most I only ever type my password incorrectly twice before I slowly and purposefully type each character while staring at the keyboard to ensure I got it right | 07:44 |
| SuperMatt | so what, 10 seconds wasted? | 07:44 |
| SuperMatt | it's hardly the end of the world | 07:44 |
| SuperMatt | it's wasting more of my day right now to run my apt-get upgrade | 07:44 |
| MooDoo | SuperMatt: 10 seconds, you can breath twice in that time, stop wasting breaths ;) | 07:53 |
| SuperMatt | I think it's about time I signed up to the release party | 07:57 |
| SuperMatt | gotta make sure I get there early enough for a shirt this time | 07:57 |
| popey | Don't feed the ging. | 08:03 |
| bigcalm | Good morning peeps :) | 08:10 |
| MooDoo | popey: troll? lol | 08:14 |
| MooDoo | morning bigcalm | 08:14 |
| MooDoo | well started my ubuntu wiki page, it's a bit bare at the moment lol | 08:23 |
| Dave-Maydew | Wonder if anyone can help? I'm using a i5 with 8Gb RAM, Radeon 5450 and 2 monitors on Ubuntu 12.04.3. When I go to play a game, like Warzone 2100 it spreads itself across the 2 monitors, which is a little crazy, is there a way around this? | 08:29 |
| directhex | Dave-Maydew, this is a per-game problem | 08:31 |
| Dave-Maydew | Ok, cheers | 08:31 |
| Dave-Maydew | I was going to buy another GPU, when I saw this happen | 08:32 |
| directhex | try running the game in a window instead of fullscreen | 08:33 |
| Dave-Maydew | I shall give it a try, many thanks | 08:34 |
| Dave-Maydew | Last question... Unity and multi monitors, when I press the workspace switcher, is there any way of just making it 4 spaces instead of the 8? | 08:35 |
| MooDoo | Dave-Maydew: does this help? - http://www.ryanchapin.com/Home?article_id=714 | 08:38 |
| Dave-Maydew | You are a star, been googling this all last night, and I thought I'd give the irc a try for the first time!! thanks MooDoo | 08:40 |
| MooDoo | you're welcome | 08:40 |
| Dave-Maydew | I'm a sight impaired user, and 2 monitors have been a great help, and the only reason for using Unity is the fact that it's what I'm used to | 08:41 |
| JamesTait | Good morning all; happy Habitat Day! :-D | 08:43 |
| MooDoo | morning JamesTait how are you | 08:44 |
| JamesTait | Hey MooDoo! :) Very well thanks, yourself? | 08:45 |
| MooDoo | JamesTait: marvelous, playing around with my page on the ubuntu wiki :D | 08:45 |
| MooDoo | lol | 08:45 |
| JamesTait | Oh yeah, I have one of those somewhere. I should probably update it. | 08:45 |
| MooDoo | JamesTait: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/paulmellors mine is bare ;) lol | 08:46 |
| JamesTait | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JamesTait | 08:47 |
| MooDoo | nice, I want to becoming a ubuntu member, so baby steps ;) | 08:47 |
| JamesTait | I was looking into membership as well, but to be honest, most of my contribution has been from my day job, and on the server side, so I don't think it really counts. | 08:49 |
| MooDoo | well to be honest, i'm only really active here for the moment, but it's a start | 08:49 |
| JamesTait | MooDoo, like you said, baby steps. ;) | 08:57 |
| SuperMatt | hurrr, I just realised, windows 8.1 will be released the day after saucy | 09:01 |
| SuperMatt | which means canonical will have put out three versions between 8 and 8.1 | 09:01 |
| MooDoo | SuperMatt: about bloody time, windows 8 sucks without start menu | 09:01 |
| SuperMatt | final two weeks now :) | 09:02 |
| SuperMatt | good luck to everyone contributing :) | 09:02 |
| MooDoo | I'm only using LTS ubuntu any way :) | 09:02 |
| SuperMatt | I just can't bring myself to only use lts | 09:02 |
| SuperMatt | I love being up to date way too much | 09:03 |
| MooDoo | I don't need anything else lol | 09:03 |
| SuperMatt | that's fair enough | 09:03 |
| SuperMatt | but I find that knowing what's coming for my servers at work, I can be more prepared for when the next LTS comes out | 09:04 |
| kecskebak | And in the bit about Ubuntu, the history of the Alans... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alans | 09:04 |
| kecskebak | My wife told me about them this morning and I immediatley thought of this place! | 09:05 |
| SuperMatt | ah yes, the cult of alan | 09:05 |
| kecskebak | In Hungary they're known as Jasz, and there are towns and even a county named after them. | 09:05 |
| shauno | that's quite worrying | 09:12 |
| MooDoo | we've known about the cult of alans for ages, just make sure they don't get you to join their cult on their day of days [normally the real ale train] ;) | 09:15 |
| === richard is now known as Guest78445 | ||
| brobostigon | good morning everyone, | 09:29 |
| MooDoo | morning brobostigon | 09:29 |
| brobostigon | morning MooDoo | 09:29 |
| === Oli`` is now known as Oli | ||
| davmor2 | Morning all | 10:01 |
| MooDoo | morning davmor2 how are you this fine day? | 10:02 |
| davmor2 | MooDoo: I feel lousy worst nights sleep in a long time :( On a plus side I'm alive \o/ so can't grumble too much :) You? | 10:06 |
| MooDoo | yeah I'm ok thanks, just gettting over manu flu, editing wikis and launchpad stuff for me and writting the odd blog post, nothing exciting | 10:07 |
| daubers | o/ | 10:15 |
| MooDoo | hi daubers | 10:19 |
| davmor2 | daubers: morning | 10:20 |
| daubers | How do? | 10:22 |
| MooDoo | yeah good you? | 10:23 |
| daubers | Not bad :) Finally recovering from the stupid depression thing | 10:23 |
| MooDoo | daubers: thats good news :) | 10:23 |
| daubers | MooDoo: Indeedly! Finally able to start getting things done again | 10:24 |
| MooDoo | good stuff :) | 10:24 |
| davmor2 | daubers: oh that's easy, you just stand on the hill that surrounds you, on a more serious note glad to hear it :) | 10:24 |
| daubers | davmor2: :-p | 10:25 |
| davmor2 | daubers: hey no fair the last bit was nice :P Depression sucks dude I am glad you have managed to get out of it :) | 10:26 |
| daubers | davmor2: It's a bit easier to get out of the second time around | 10:27 |
| dvrr | hiiiiiiiiiiii | 11:09 |
| davmor2 | dvrr: hoooooooooooo | 11:09 |
| popey | hello. | 11:09 |
| MooDoo | hiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiya | 11:13 |
| davmor2 | MooDoo: turns into Laura | 11:14 |
| MooDoo | davmor2: thanks for that davmor2 :p | 11:15 |
| davmor2 | MooDoo: whenever I see hiya written for some reason my brain hears the intro to UUPC and Laura excitedly saying it sorry :D | 11:21 |
| MooDoo | it's fine, compare me to laura, we are similar after all :p | 11:22 |
| davmor2 | MooDoo: No, no you're not. | 11:23 |
| shauno | I just read popey's tweet about making progress on the progress meter, and I can't figure out if he did it on purpose, or something something coffee | 11:25 |
| popey | ☻ | 11:25 |
| popey | Carefully worded. | 11:25 |
| shauno | slightly disappointed it didn't start with "yo dawg, I heard you like progress .." | 11:26 |
| neuro | sup | 11:26 |
| davmor2 | neuro: the sky | 11:26 |
| MooDoo | neuro: bitter | 11:27 |
| neuro | you all weird, yo | 11:27 |
| davmor2 | MooDoo: you don't want bitter up you want it in a pint glass surely? | 11:27 |
| MooDoo | davmor2: i want it in my belly | 11:29 |
| * neuro terminates a couple of ec2 instances | 11:29 | |
| neuro | DIEEEEEE! | 11:29 |
| davmor2 | neuro: I think you'll find that is "sudo kill -9" die die die | 11:30 |
| neuro | actually this time it was click-click-rightclick-Terminate | 11:30 |
| davmor2 | neuro: it's not as much fun when you have to use the mouse is it :D | 11:31 |
| neuro | na | 11:31 |
| neuro | would have done a cli call to do it, but wanted to make sure exactly what i was doing was what i intended to do | 11:31 |
| neuro | didn't want to do something stupid like take out a mail server or a db slave, that would have suuuuuuucked | 11:32 |
| davmor2 | neuro: Maybe have the mouse point change to a sword over the terminate button and a bloody sword when you click on terminate would make it more enjoyable :D | 11:32 |
| neuro | :) | 11:32 |
| neuro | i'm also saving the company 30 quid a month by doing that, so there's that happy feeling also | 11:32 |
| shauno | use the mincraft-pi stuff to make a physical server farm that you go around punching to terminate things | 11:32 |
| neuro | that would be epic | 11:33 |
| neuro | boss: why are you playing minecraft? me: i am totally managing the cluster here boss: ah, ok, carry on me: *punches skeleton* | 11:33 |
| popey | This is a Minecraft system. I know this! | 11:35 |
| neuro | :) | 11:36 |
| === alan_g is now known as alan_g|lunch | ||
| MooDoo | feed the beast | 12:33 |
| davmor2 | MooDoo: Feed Me Seymore | 12:34 |
| MooDoo | davmor2: lol little shop of horrors mod for minecradt ;) | 12:36 |
| SuperMatt | what's the current state of core apps in touch now? Would I, for instance, be able to play an mp4 that I can normally play in totem? | 12:43 |
| popey | depends what videos you'd watch in totem ☻ | 12:46 |
| SuperMatt | mostly uhhh... backups of tv shows | 12:48 |
| Myrtti | oh man, backups would be nice, my Harry Potter DVD's are in UK :-( | 12:49 |
| SuperMatt | well, use "the offsite-backup bay" | 12:50 |
| SuperMatt | though I think people use the world pirate intercangably with offsite-backup | 12:50 |
| Myrtti | the sad part is that if I have backups. | 12:51 |
| Myrtti | on a hard drive, in UK. | 12:51 |
| Myrtti | :-| | 12:51 |
| SuperMatt | doh | 12:51 |
| SuperMatt | at my last work place, we set up an offsite backup ring, just in case anyone's house burned down | 12:52 |
| shauno | I had a backup burried in the back garden for a while. protip: don't do that. | 12:53 |
| SuperMatt | .... | 12:54 |
| SuperMatt | what medium did you use? | 12:54 |
| shauno | CDs. it seemed to make sense. they come in a handy plastic tub, you just need to seal it? | 12:54 |
| SuperMatt | sure | 12:54 |
| SuperMatt | so what went wrong? | 12:54 |
| SuperMatt | other than the fact that writable CDs have a limited lifespan | 12:55 |
| shauno | I guess sealing it isn't as easy as it looks | 12:55 |
| popey | i like the idea though | 12:55 |
| popey | hard disk + silica gel in a sealed sandwich bag inside a tupperware box, upside down in a hole in the ground | 12:56 |
| shauno | luckily I didn't need the backup, but when I went to swap them out a year later, I couldn't separate one disk from the next | 12:56 |
| dwatkins | were they melted together, shauno? | 12:56 |
| popey | wait.. you put a stack of CDs not in their cases? | 12:56 |
| shauno | right. just like when you buy a spindle | 12:56 |
| popey | you properly didn't think that through ☻ | 12:56 |
| SuperMatt | my backup solution comprises of all the disks I can fit in to my PC | 12:58 |
| SuperMatt | though I'm gonna get a nas soon | 12:58 |
| * MooDoo got nas, but wants a synology naas | 12:59 | |
| MooDoo | nas not naas | 12:59 |
| diplo | SuperMatt: Doesn't help if the house burns down | 13:00 |
| MooDoo | I have a laptop to server, server to nas, nas to offsite usb :) | 13:01 |
| SuperMatt | diplo: no, it doesn't | 13:01 |
| SuperMatt | I think it's worth just having a rind of friends and a TB external hdd each | 13:02 |
| BigRedS | my backup solution is basically github | 13:02 |
| SuperMatt | tbh, to back up the things I really care about, I only really need 100G of space | 13:03 |
| * popey hugs his microserver | 13:03 | |
| SuperMatt | is that the n54l? | 13:04 |
| popey | 40 | 13:04 |
| popey | original one | 13:04 |
| SuperMatt | oh? | 13:04 |
| shauno | I still like my time capsule idea. but now that I measure my megabits in plurals, there's much simpler ways | 13:04 |
| SuperMatt | how many disks can that take? | 13:04 |
| diplo | I backup to my microserver and then to work | 13:04 |
| diplo | I back my parents to my house | 13:04 |
| popey | I have 13 in mine | 13:04 |
| popey | with an external array | 13:04 |
| SuperMatt | usb stuff, right? | 13:04 |
| SuperMatt | how's butterfs working for you now? | 13:05 |
| popey | no | 13:05 |
| popey | no USB | 13:05 |
| popey | all SATA | 13:05 |
| SuperMatt | cool | 13:05 |
| popey | http://paste.ubuntu.com/6204848/ | 13:05 |
| BigRedS | I just decided that a nosql version of SQLite should exist, and it does! | 13:05 |
| SuperMatt | blimey | 13:06 |
| BigRedS | and it's got perhaps the most buzzword-compliant introduction I've ever seen | 13:06 |
| shauno | now that's efficient | 13:06 |
| BigRedS | "noSQLite is a lightweight zeroconf noSQL document-oriented forking Python SQLite networked authenticated XMLRPC database server." | 13:06 |
| popey | http://paste.ubuntu.com/6204851/ | 13:06 |
| SuperMatt | so btrfs is working quite well then | 13:06 |
| popey | fine for me | 13:07 |
| SuperMatt | I want to move a lot of my stuff to btrfs, but I think I'm going to wait until btrfs-convert works again | 13:10 |
| === alan_g|lunch is now known as alan_g | ||
| === elliott_ is now known as Guest15606 | ||
| mgdm | popey: they played a Code Club promo video over the weekend at the conference I was at in Manchester - it was a work of genius | 14:24 |
| mgdm | popey: (one involving a kid reading out HTML, etc...) | 14:24 |
| SuperMatt | dang, google play music doesn't work in the ubuntu touch browser :( | 14:24 |
| mgdm | popey: you're involved in one, aren't you? | 14:24 |
| bigcalm | Loved that video | 14:24 |
| popey | ya | 14:25 |
| popey | seen the other video? | 14:25 |
| popey | where they interview someone? | 14:25 |
| popey | www.youtube.com/watch?v=FxhGIajRsq4 | 14:25 |
| bigcalm | What's the game on the laptop? http://youtu.be/FxhGIajRsq4?t=35s | 14:27 |
| mgdm | popey: not yet, but I shall now! | 14:30 |
| bigcalm | I think the video we saw at phpnw13 was better | 14:32 |
| === Lcawte|Away is now known as Lcawte | ||
| === webpigeon is now known as Guest22937 | ||
| bigcalm | We've just been sent the electoral roll form. Anybody know when they need to be filled in and returned by? | 15:35 |
| directhex | i got one too | 15:35 |
| bigcalm | Wondering if we were to leave it until after Hayley possibly takes my name | 15:35 |
| bigcalm | (She still hasn't 100% decided) | 15:35 |
| bigcalm | Nothing on the form or letter with it says anything about when to return it by | 15:36 |
| dwatkins | ...and yet it's a legal requirement to register to vote | 15:39 |
| diddledan | bigcalm: as far as mine says it's just "asap" | 15:41 |
| diddledan | they don't seem to have listed a date on it | 15:42 |
| bigcalm | diddledan: think asap could be 26th October? | 15:42 |
| bigcalm | I'll be married by then :D | 15:42 |
| diddledan | other than that they'll publish the edited register in februrary | 15:42 |
| diddledan | I would expect a month from receipt is still acceptible | 15:42 |
| bigcalm | Goodo | 15:43 |
| diddledan | you could be on a long summer holiday :-p | 15:43 |
| dutchie | W: Failed to fetch http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/raring-updates/main/source/Sources 404 Not Found [IP: 91.189.92.156 80] | 15:44 |
| dutchie | anybody else?] | 15:45 |
| neuro | dutchie: there is no Sources file | 15:54 |
| neuro | just bzipped or gzipped versions of same | 15:54 |
| dutchie | surely apt-get update should see those though>? | 15:55 |
| daubers | popey: I have a bug for Ubuntu Touch | 16:25 |
| popey | just one? | 16:25 |
| daubers | popey: It doesn't prevent me from being an idiot and dropping my phone, breaking both the screen and digitiser | 16:25 |
| * daubers now has to wait until he can afford to get it mended properly :( | 16:26 | |
| popey | ouch | 16:27 |
| popey | what device? | 16:27 |
| daubers | Galaxy Nexus | 16:28 |
| daubers | £180 for a new glass and digitiser | 16:29 |
| popey | yowzer | 16:29 |
| popey | you can buy a 2nd hand one for 140 | 16:29 |
| directhex | daubers, buy a new nexus 4 for less | 16:30 |
| popey | or that | 16:30 |
| daubers | Might just see if I'm due an upgrade | 16:30 |
| popey | galaxy nexus has a better screen | 16:30 |
| popey | if a bit bright and maybe too vivid | 16:30 |
| dvrr | popey | 16:34 |
| popey | hmm? | 16:35 |
| dvrr | i have configured jabberd2 server | 16:36 |
| directhex | prosody! | 16:36 |
| dvrr | but i i am not able to create users | 16:37 |
| popey | I am happy for you. | 16:37 |
| dvrr | becouse | 16:38 |
| dvrr | i fallowd this uel configured jabberd http://bionicraptor.ca/2011/05/20/how-to-install-and-configure-japperd2-with-mysql/ | 16:40 |
| dvrr | user account could not be created | 16:44 |
| dvrr | popey | 16:47 |
| popey | what? | 16:47 |
| popey | Why are you pinging me? | 16:47 |
| dvrr | users creating problem | 16:47 |
| dvrr | this is big prob for me | 16:48 |
| popey | I have no idea, never setup jabberd | 16:49 |
| === alan_g is now known as alan_g|EOD | ||
| === schwuk_away is now known as schwuk | ||
| SuperMatt | ah nice, the adb backup tool is *exactly* what I needed before putting ubuntu on my nexus 10 :D | 17:49 |
| === schwuk is now known as schwuk_away | ||
| czajkowski | aloha | 18:05 |
| * popey stabs steam | 18:15 | |
| diddledan | *stab stab stab* | 18:16 |
| diddledan | I like stabbing things | 18:16 |
| davmor2 | popey: you should get czajkowski to do that, she's had plenty of experience stabbing things and people :D | 18:16 |
| diddledan | o_O | 18:17 |
| diddledan | davmor2: was that a compliment or an insult? | 18:17 |
| popey | its complaining that i dont have glx setup right | 18:17 |
| davmor2 | popey: do you have xmir installed? | 18:17 |
| popey | of course not! | 18:17 |
| popey | http://paste.ubuntu.com/6206056/ | 18:17 |
| popey | /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/mesa/libGL.so.1 looks like it shouldn't be there, surely | 18:18 |
| davmor2 | popey: it just hates you then | 18:18 |
| popey | it shouldn't be loading the mesa glx driver but the nvidia one | 18:18 |
| davmor2 | czajkowski: hello | 18:18 |
| * czajkowski peers at davmor2 | 18:18 | |
| czajkowski | oi you | 18:18 |
| ali1234 | what are you actually trying to do? | 18:18 |
| popey | run steam | 18:18 |
| ali1234 | "run steam" | 18:19 |
| popey | it pops up a box telling me that it's doing software rendering | 18:19 |
| popey | yes, "steam" in a terminal | 18:19 |
| ali1234 | using +1? | 18:19 |
| popey | yup | 18:19 |
| popey | used to work | 18:19 |
| ali1234 | it works for me currently i have not updated today though | 18:19 |
| popey | but I yanked my nvidia card because it broke | 18:19 |
| popey | so went back to intel, and now back on nvidia it's busted | 18:19 |
| popey | if I run the 32-bit glxinfo it barfs because it's doing sw rendering | 18:20 |
| ali1234 | yesterday i tried to put my 5870 in my main computer to play games but it turns out the aftermarket cooler is too big for my case | 18:20 |
| popey | so i remove libgl1-mesa-glx:i386 | 18:20 |
| popey | that removes the line from the ldconfig above | 18:20 |
| popey | but then when I run steam it wants to re-install that package again and breaks | 18:20 |
| ali1234 | i see updates for mesa:i386 | 18:21 |
| ali1234 | so i bet if i update it will break | 18:21 |
| ali1234 | libgl1-mesa-dri:i386 specifically | 18:21 |
| davmor2 | czajkowski: what you stab me and MooDoo and things galore when they annoy you so I reckon you'd be the best person to stab popey 's steam | 18:21 |
| ali1234 | so anyone want to buy a slightly used (for bitcoin mining lol) 5870HD? | 18:21 |
| ali1234 | popey: yeah it appears to be broken now | 18:24 |
| popey | aha! | 18:24 |
| popey | when it prompts to install libgl1-mesa-dri:i386, press CTRL+C ☻ | 18:24 |
| popey | works | 18:24 |
| ali1234 | why don't you have it installed? | 18:25 |
| * popey tests a game | 18:25 | |
| popey | i just removed it | 18:25 |
| popey | to test | 18:25 |
| ali1234 | why? | 18:25 |
| popey | because it isnt needed | 18:25 |
| popey | it breaks glxinfo, and steam | 18:25 |
| ali1234 | it shouldn't | 18:26 |
| ali1234 | and it is | 18:26 |
| popey | by what? | 18:26 |
| diddledan | bugfodder? | 18:26 |
| popey | sure, once I figure where the bug is, I'll file it | 18:26 |
| diddledan | \o/ | 18:26 |
| * popey tries xbox 360 controller with serious sam 3 bfe | 18:27 | |
| popey | that should test it | 18:27 |
| davmor2 | diddledan: bugfodder is a great game but it's not on par with canonfodder | 18:28 |
| ali1234 | popey: if i try to remove it, apt also tries to remove xorg | 18:29 |
| popey | libgl1-mesa-dri:i386 on 64-bit ubuntu? | 18:30 |
| ali1234 | oh wait, no | 18:31 |
| ali1234 | that doesn't affect anything | 18:31 |
| directhex | popey, http://store.steampowered.com/search/?term=&category1=998&category2=28&advanced=0#category1=998&os=linux&category2=28&sort_order=ASC&page=1 | 18:31 |
| directhex | those are linux games w/ full controller support | 18:32 |
| popey | ta | 18:33 |
| popey | well, that was fun | 18:33 |
| popey | although I am rubbish with FPS games on controller | 18:33 |
| ali1234 | popey: but the thing is, the -dri package does not install a libGL1.so | 18:34 |
| ali1234 | that comes from -mesa-glx | 18:34 |
| popey | not here | 18:35 |
| popey | dpkg -S /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/mesa/libGL.so.1 | 18:35 |
| popey | told me | 18:35 |
| ali1234 | libgl1-mesa-glx:i386: /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/mesa/libGL.so.1 | 18:35 |
| popey | maybe it lied | 18:35 |
| popey | hmmm | 18:35 |
| popey | did I remove the wrong one | 18:35 |
| popey | libgl1-mesa-glx:i386: isn't installed here either | 18:36 |
| ali1234 | and if i try to remove that one i lose skype and wine | 18:36 |
| popey | yeah, i did | 18:36 |
| ali1234 | they are dependant i guess | 18:37 |
| ali1234 | well, steam isn't actually broken here at all. it still works fine after the update | 18:37 |
| popey | hmmm | 18:37 |
| ali1234 | you must have a problem with symlinks pointing to the wrong version or something | 18:37 |
| popey | yeah, perhaps | 18:37 |
| ali1234 | reinstalling the packages again in the right order will probably fix it | 18:38 |
| popey | yeah, not touching it for now. | 18:38 |
| ali1234 | i checked update-alternatives and it is not doing anything with mesa or glx | 18:38 |
| popey | it's plausible i futzed around with symlinks at some point | 18:38 |
| ali1234 | maybe run jockey again (from command line) | 18:38 |
| popey | unrelated, i keep getting 503 from steam community | 18:39 |
| directhex | there's a bug | 18:39 |
| popey | clicking on my own profile inside steam | 18:39 |
| popey | ah | 18:39 |
| ali1234 | yeah i get that all the time | 18:39 |
| directhex | there's a multiarch bug in mesa in 64-bit ubuntu before a certain release | 18:42 |
| directhex | which makes it not possible to install the :i386 and :amd64 versions together | 18:42 |
| ali1234 | we're both using +1 fully updated | 18:45 |
| directhex | dpkg -l libgl1-mesa-dri:i386 libgl1-mesa-dri:iamd64 | 18:48 |
| popey | i386 version installed only here | 18:50 |
| directhex | eek | 18:50 |
| ali1234 | i have both | 18:51 |
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| SuperMatt | I don't know if I'm doing something wrong, but touch really doesn't feel close to being ready at all :/ | 19:04 |
| SuperMatt | I'm using it on my nexus 10, trying to use the keyboard and it constantly selects things in the background, behind the keyboard | 19:04 |
| SuperMatt | and also, the keyboard is in portrait mode when the device is landscape | 19:04 |
| ali1234 | heh | 19:07 |
| popey | we haven't optimised for the nexus 10 at all | 19:07 |
| ali1234 | it's not supposed to be "ready" until 14.10 now | 19:08 |
| popey | 360 controller in Dynamite Jack is all over the place | 19:09 |
| ali1234 | did you configure it in big picture mode? | 19:09 |
| popey | goes in odd directions | 19:09 |
| popey | oh, no | 19:09 |
| popey | i am in big picture mode | 19:09 |
| ali1234 | it probably wont help if it is that messed up | 19:09 |
| ali1234 | yes but there is a controller config screen | 19:10 |
| ali1234 | in big picture, not in the game | 19:10 |
| ali1234 | not all games use it though | 19:10 |
| popey | there is, it just says "controller detected xinput compatible controller" | 19:10 |
| popey | http://popey.com/~alan/2013-10-07-201035_1920x1080_scrot.png | 19:10 |
| ali1234 | i guess remapping is not allowed if the joypad is recognized by SDL | 19:12 |
| ali1234 | and also dynamite jack does not use SDL_gamepad | 19:12 |
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