| ColonelPanic001 | 'morning | 13:37 |
|---|---|---|
| rick_h_ | morn | 13:37 |
| ColonelPanic001 | that's all I have the {energy,motivation} to type out | 13:41 |
| brousch | IT'S GREAT TO BE ALIVE! | 13:42 |
| ColonelPanic001 | yes, because being alive, I can drink coffee. Which I'm doing. Right now. | 13:42 |
| rick_h_ | yep, coffee in hand | 13:43 |
| brousch | Wait, what? rick_h_ I thought you were a tea man | 13:45 |
| rick_h_ | brousch: I've become a coffee snob this summer (or at least a latte snob) | 13:46 |
| rick_h_ | and I do my iced tea after my morning coffee | 13:46 |
| brousch | LAtte is where it starts. Then you back out the cream and sugar until you become a real coffee snob drinking it black | 13:46 |
| jrwren | and then espresso | 13:51 |
| jrwren | mmm... and then your own pour throughs | 13:51 |
| jrwren | threws? | 13:51 |
| jrwren | wtf is throughs, lol | 13:51 |
| rick_h_ | through | 13:51 |
| rick_h_ | heh, pot, grinder, and frother are enough coffee tweaking accessories for now | 13:53 |
| ColonelPanic001 | I did the same - had a late night or two in a row about a year ago, suddenly overnight I aquired the taste for coffee | 13:53 |
| ColonelPanic001 | I still drink more tea, but in the morning, once in a while, coffee is fantastic | 13:53 |
| brousch | I like my immersion drip system. Small and portable. | 13:54 |
| ColonelPanic001 | and on weekends at home, I drink a few cups of decaf. I don't keep the "real" stuff at home, try ot keep caffeine intake reasonable | 13:54 |
| rick_h_ | portable is for a coffee shop drive through :P | 13:54 |
| brousch | Need to store it in my desk :P | 13:54 |
| rick_h_ | but we have a moka pot and take the frother in the camper (just pre-grind) | 13:54 |
| ColonelPanic001 | I just drink meijer brand decaf. Shudder in disgust, coffee snobs | 13:54 |
| ColonelPanic001 | <3 Hazelnut | 13:55 |
| ColonelPanic001 | I aquired the taste for coffee enough to enjoy it, but still drink it rarely enough to not be picky about it. | 13:55 |
| ColonelPanic001 | I save snobbery for tea and beer | 13:55 |
| rick_h_ | I can't get coffee at the caribou because I've gotten picky about it. Now at CHC I just get a root beer or something | 13:55 |
| rick_h_ | hopefully the move to Peets will fix that. The Peets in CA had a great latte | 13:55 |
| brousch | At work we have disgusting coffee, so I bring my own. I prefer a French Roast | 13:56 |
| ColonelPanic001 | rick_h_: what is something you don't really "get into". There must be something you're not particular about. SOMETHING. | 13:56 |
| rick_h_ | ColonelPanic001: hmmmm...I'll have to think about that. My brain doesn't work well that way. | 13:56 |
| brousch | Clothes? | 13:56 |
| ColonelPanic001 | not that I mind personally. It benefits me because then I can say "vim question? I bet rick_h knows" | 13:56 |
| ColonelPanic001 | "I sew my own, all the companies use the wrong stitch" | 13:56 |
| ColonelPanic001 | noob question - what's french roast "mean"? Like, if I just get some Maxwell House french roast, for example. I tried it once, couldn't tell a difference in taste | 13:57 |
| rick_h_ | brousch: well lately I'm a really big fan of Exofficio clothing. Gotten a ton of their stuff this summer | 13:57 |
| ColonelPanic001 | SEE? | 13:57 |
| rick_h_ | hey, best boxer briefs I've ever owned! :P | 13:58 |
| ColonelPanic001 | <2015-05-23 12:35:00 rick_h_> Hey guys, I started carrying around my own bottle of air. Too much trace amounts of argon in the mainstream stuff. | 13:58 |
| rick_h_ | I can't think of anything I get where I just go in, grab the cheapest thing on the shelf, and walk out. Not even paper towels or printer paper. | 13:58 |
| jrwren | calvin klien? | 13:59 |
| brousch | ColonelPanic001: I snorted some hummus out of my nose. Thanks | 13:59 |
| rick_h_ | my brain just can't help but figure it out | 13:59 |
| ColonelPanic001 | ;D | 13:59 |
| rick_h_ | jrwren: never tried. | 13:59 |
| ColonelPanic001 | Paper towels I use whatever, but toilet paper? Charmin extra soft. My wife made the mistake of extra strong once. ONCE. | 13:59 |
| ColonelPanic001 | My ass deserves the best, damnit. | 13:59 |
| jrwren | they are my fav boxer brief. | 13:59 |
| ColonelPanic001 | literally, in this case. | 13:59 |
| jrwren | and reasonably priced at costco :) | 13:59 |
| ColonelPanic001 | now I'm looking up Exofficio, damnit. | 14:00 |
| brousch | ColonelPanic001: Toilet paper? Are you some kind of hill billy? Where's your bidet? | 14:00 |
| ColonelPanic001 | comfortable boxer breifs really do make a huge difference in comfort | 14:00 |
| ColonelPanic001 | brousch: never used one. I'll admit to curiosity, but... I don't know. | 14:00 |
| rick_h_ | charmin is crap :P cottenele or bust | 14:00 |
| brousch | with aloe | 14:00 |
| ColonelPanic001 | rick_h_: If I try this and my ass disagrees, I shall be annoyed. | 14:01 |
| rick_h_ | ColonelPanic001: am I ever wrong? :P | 14:01 |
| ColonelPanic001 | I haven't tried this Exofficio stuff yet. Maybe. | 14:01 |
| ColonelPanic001 | rick_h_ needs to just start a blog about "stuff I recently decided is the best, with stats about why" | 14:01 |
| ColonelPanic001 | then I can just save some time and follow it | 14:01 |
| rick_h_ | hah! no, because then my wife would realize wtf I spend my time on and what I spend money on | 14:02 |
| ColonelPanic001 | haha | 14:02 |
| rick_h_ | the one password she can never have is to my amazon account | 14:02 |
| ColonelPanic001 | .htaccess it and send me a log in | 14:02 |
| ColonelPanic001 | haha | 14:02 |
| rick_h_ | lol | 14:02 |
| rick_h_ | it does suck though. I spent a freaking hour trying to find the right shoes for my son. I mean he's 3...do the shoes fit..good!@ | 14:03 |
| ColonelPanic001 | exactly. | 14:03 |
| ColonelPanic001 | save me that time | 14:03 |
| ColonelPanic001 | "just go get this exact model of Widget" "Thanks!" | 14:03 |
| rick_h_ | but no, I've going "Well, he's got soccer once a week, and so it needs some cleat-like action. And we need one pair he can wear to church, and winter is coming to they should go up a bit to help keep snow/etc out" | 14:04 |
| ColonelPanic001 | I have a feeling that if I weren't so cheap, I'd do the same thing really | 14:04 |
| ColonelPanic001 | but my cheapness takes over and I just say "hell with it, this works" | 14:04 |
| ColonelPanic001 | cheapness and a hatred of being in stores | 14:04 |
| rick_h_ | yea, the internet saves me usually which helps | 14:04 |
| rick_h_ | because I can compare reviews in multiple places easily | 14:04 |
| ColonelPanic001 | yeah, I've been doing that more and more | 14:04 |
| ColonelPanic001 | still need to find a damn furnace filter. stupid weird size in this house | 14:04 |
| rick_h_ | "Hmm, no home depot the reviews of this shed are pretty good, but not on amazon. Maybe there's a shipping thing there" | 14:05 |
| brousch | Kid will need new shoes in 3 months anyways | 14:05 |
| rick_h_ | /no/on | 14:05 |
| rick_h_ | exactly! | 14:05 |
| rick_h_ | I want to not care...but...but...my brain hates me | 14:05 |
| jrwren | go to stride rite, let kid pick. done. | 14:06 |
| rick_h_ | let hime pick?! | 14:06 |
| rick_h_ | we do go there, and he plays with the toys while the decisions are made :P | 14:06 |
| ColonelPanic001 | haha | 14:06 |
| ColonelPanic001 | "BUT WHERE IS YOUR STATISTICAL ANALYSIS DONE IN R TO FIND THE BEST OPTIMAL SHOE?" | 14:07 |
| brousch | Consumers Rickports | 14:07 |
| ColonelPanic001 | BLog name, right there | 14:07 |
| brousch | I'd subscribe to that | 14:07 |
| ColonelPanic001 | use that | 14:07 |
| ColonelPanic001 | please. | 14:07 |
| ColonelPanic001 | brousch++ | 14:07 |
| brousch | rick_h_: How the hell did you make that response so fast? | 14:59 |
| rick_h_ | brousch: quality keyboard :P | 15:00 |
| rick_h_ | there is power in the clicky | 15:01 |
| brousch | But there are links to relevant code too | 15:01 |
| rick_h_ | and phone notifications help me know when you ask stuff in my posts | 15:01 |
| rick_h_ | brousch: well, I know the bookie codebase well enough. When people ask questions they'll just about always get examples back in either bookie or charmworld/juju gui code since that stuff is in my head | 15:01 |
| rick_h_ | I don't bother creating new fresh/clean bin's usually. "Left as an exercise to the reader" | 15:02 |
| brousch | I was reading this article, which is a pretty nice intro to core http://stackful-dev.com/discovering-sqlalchemy-core-the-relational-nosql-api-for-python.html | 15:04 |
| rick_h_ | yea, sqlalchemy is an ORM, but inside there are the tools to write your own ORM. It's crazy cool like that | 15:04 |
| rick_h_ | "don't like the sqlalchemy ORM, then use the underlying tools to write one you do like" | 15:04 |
| brousch | I wonder why gaynor created that project. I thought he was a big django user | 15:14 |
| rick_h_ | he's working on rackspace/openstack stuff atm. I think they use some tornado | 15:14 |
| rick_h_ | errr, whatever | 15:14 |
| rick_h_ | but I mean he worked at quora for a bit and did a bunch of pylons stuff, he's all over the place. pypy all the things | 15:15 |
| jcastro | rick_h_: do you know if there's HDMI at the library? | 15:15 |
| jcastro | I just realized the input situation wrt. my demo | 15:15 |
| rick_h_ | jcastro: I don't think so | 15:15 |
| rick_h_ | jcastro: they've got more ports, but attempts to get at them have met resistence and we've not had the guts to try outselves | 15:15 |
| rick_h_ | and don't recall hdmi on there | 15:16 |
| jcastro | hmm | 15:17 |
| jcastro | how about dvi? | 15:17 |
| rick_h_ | I'd bring a vga-dvi adapter | 15:18 |
| * rick_h_ might have one... | 15:18 | |
| rick_h_ | maybe cmaloney (who's not here wtf) can speak up on it. | 15:18 |
| brousch | No snapl either | 15:19 |
| rick_h_ | yea | 15:19 |
| rick_h_ | man, coffee joulies + contigo ftw. Warm coffee 4+ hrs later | 16:13 |
| rick_h_ | plus it's fun to freak out the starbucks peeks giving them a mug with joulies in it and they're like "You want to keep this crap in here?" | 16:13 |
| greg-g | joulies? I don't want to see rick_h_'s joulies | 16:29 |
| rick_h_ | :P | 16:30 |
| greg-g | ahh, a kickstarter | 16:31 |
| rick_h_ | yea, I got in after the kickstarter. Got some for my wife but then got another set for me now | 16:32 |
| rick_h_ | with a really good thermos can get 4-6hrs of drinkable coffee | 16:32 |
| greg-g | "they work best with a really well insulated vessel" - no shit, so does nothing | 16:32 |
| greg-g | sorry, just making fun of the wording/clarity of the Wikipedia article | 16:32 |
| brousch | rick_h_: Wait, you leave a latte in a thermos for 6 hours? | 17:01 |
| rick_h_ | brousch: almost | 17:01 |
| jcastro | where is craig bologna today? | 17:04 |
| brousch | That doesn't sound good. That's warm milk | 17:04 |
| brousch | You're gonna get the shits from that one day | 17:04 |
| rick_h_ | brousch: lol, well it's soy. And it does get close to like a warm hot chocolate towards that long | 17:05 |
| rick_h_ | but it's cool that you can start drinking it sooner and go longer. <3 the joulies | 17:05 |
| rick_h_ | greg-g: yea, my wife though put them into a bit mug and was like "I don't think they really work" | 17:05 |
| rick_h_ | because a coffee mug is about the worst thing to keep things warm in | 17:06 |
| greg-g | drink faster | 17:06 |
| greg-g | :P | 17:06 |
| brousch | I used to get 4.5 hours out of a regular thermos | 17:06 |
| rick_h_ | I got my wife and I one of these and <3 them http://www.amazon.com/Contigo-AUTOSEAL-Stainless-20-Ounce-Easy-Clean/dp/B009HVH4XO/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1381165603&sr=8-4&keywords=contigo | 17:06 |
| brousch | Mine was bigger. Would hold 1 pot of coffee | 17:08 |
| greg-g | define "1 pot" | 17:08 |
| greg-g | 1 hotel coffee pot is 1 coffee mug, so like 8 oz | 17:08 |
| brousch | 4 8-10oz cups | 17:09 |
| rick_h_ | yea, I've got the 20oz which fits around 15/16oz after adding joulies? well a med starbucks at least | 17:10 |
| brousch | so 32oz probably | 17:10 |
| rick_h_ | yea, that's a bit big for a cup holder type device | 17:10 |
| rick_h_ | that's like "Let's hold some soup for lunch" material | 17:10 |
| brousch | Right. All morning! | 17:11 |
| brousch | 1 cup/hr | 17:11 |
| rick_h_ | lol | 17:11 |
| rick_h_ | all work day you mean, 8 10oz cups | 17:11 |
| brousch | nah, I rarely coffee-up after lunch | 17:13 |
| rick_h_ | ah, the joys of seeing an email with a merge proposal go by, glance at it, get caremad seeing the diff and fuss about it even though it's already been reviewed and qa'd to be ok. | 17:17 |
| rick_h_ | now wtf was I doing originally? | 17:19 |
| brousch | drinking a cuppa | 17:19 |
| cmaloney | Howdt | 17:51 |
| cmaloney | howdy, even | 17:51 |
| rick_h_ | there's the man | 17:51 |
| rick_h_ | jcastro: ask him about hdmi at MUG ^ | 17:52 |
| cmaloney | IT's VGA all the way | 17:52 |
| cmaloney | i have a RaspPi HDMI to VGA adapter that might work | 17:52 |
| cmaloney | But if you have something that you know works that would be preferable | 17:52 |
| cmaloney | Just got back from Frankenmuth. :) | 17:53 |
| rick_h_ | ah, good times? little rainy this weekend :( | 17:53 |
| cmaloney | Yeah, it was awesome | 17:53 |
| cmaloney | Great times | 17:54 |
| brousch | What do you do in Frankenmuth? | 18:13 |
| brousch | I've never been there | 18:13 |
| greg-g | smoke frankenscense | 18:14 |
| brousch | That does not surprise me from Mr. Ann Arbor and San Fran | 18:15 |
| greg-g | we don't say "san fran" we say "frisco" | 18:15 |
| brousch | Sounds like the state of your brain after smoking Frankincense | 18:16 |
| greg-g | I guess you don't smoke frankencense, you just burn it to cover up the smell of what you do smoke | 18:17 |
| ColonelPanic001 | I look away, go to lunch, come back, and we're talking about this. | 18:34 |
| ColonelPanic001 | now I have the munchies again | 18:34 |
| cmaloney | Heh | 19:00 |
| cmaloney | There's plenty of things to do in Frakenmuth | 19:00 |
| * greg-g eats PB&J | 19:00 | |
| cmaloney | shop | 19:00 |
| cmaloney | eat | 19:00 |
| cmaloney | Laugh at how they're trying to make the down into Disney | 19:00 |
| rick_h_ | lol "That's not an ipad, this is an ipad!" http://www.theverge.com/2013/10/7/4812630/fox-news-shepard-smith-news-deck | 19:40 |
| brousch | 1920x1080 on 55" at arm's length sucks | 19:43 |
| rick_h_ | ok, so this is pre-retina :P | 19:43 |
| brousch | There are a few 50" 4K TVs now, but not touch screen | 19:44 |
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| cmaloney | Wow, I'd hate to be the news-monkey pinching those news stories. | 19:52 |
| jrwren | is there a cmdline tool to zlib compress/decompress a stream? g(un)zip requires a gzip header | 20:06 |
| jrwren | python -c 'import sys,zlib;print zlib.decompress(sys.stdin.read())' | 20:14 |
| jrwren | :) | 20:14 |
| jrwren | imma use gzip anyway | 20:14 |
| mathomastech | So, I am working on some idea's to revive the LUG group in my area. It's been inactive for a while. Figured i'd throw out the link to my idea doc. A lot of the idea's are inspired by MUG and CHC. Could definitely use some input/advice etc. Never really done anything like this before. | 20:17 |
| mathomastech | https://docs.google.com/document/d/1-kmDQvJcUmkn3UIqFHo4ZmHxjOEq9ufCrfOf6MKNeOs/edit?usp=sharing | 20:17 |
| brousch | mathomastech: We revived the GRLUG with a weekly social event | 20:19 |
| brousch | Started on Saturday, then moved to Wednesday nights | 20:19 |
| brousch | Lining up speakers can be hard at first | 20:19 |
| brousch | Also, in general, colleges are poor places to meet. The college kids really don't care | 20:20 |
| brousch | Coffee houses and quiet pubs are better | 20:20 |
| mathomastech | brouch: I've thought about the speakers. Unfortunately I don't really have many connections here. I could probably do some of the easier topics (the ones listed under beginner) but not sure I have the knowledge/experience for the more advanced topics. | 20:21 |
| brousch | Yeah, that's why I think a social event is better. Basically just say you'll be hanging out the local coffeehouse and anyone who wants to stop by | 20:22 |
| brousch | You make the connections there and can then move into more technical meetings | 20:22 |
| brousch | Check with local hackerspaces to see if you could meet there | 20:23 |
| brousch | I love meetup.com, but it is expensive: $72/6 months | 20:24 |
| brousch | Also Linux types tend to be the most paranoid about being tracked by that kind of service | 20:24 |
| greg-g | also, google docs ;) | 20:25 |
| brousch | Seriously? | 20:25 |
| greg-g | yah | 20:25 |
| mathomastech | Looking up hackspaces now. Never really heard of them before, really neat concept | 20:25 |
| greg-g | text editing/sharing, we figured that problem out in FLOSS land | 20:25 |
| brousch | greg-g: What do you suggest? | 20:26 |
| greg-g | a wiki | 20:26 |
| cmaloney | Linux can be the refuge of some rather paranoid individuals. | 20:26 |
| brousch | That's a lot of infrastructure to maintain to share some text | 20:26 |
| greg-g | etherpad | 20:26 |
| greg-g | any of the freely hosted ones out there | 20:27 |
| greg-g | seriously, etherpad | 20:27 |
| greg-g | we use it everywhere inside WMF that needs realtime text collaboration (and it gets archived to a wiki, if need be) | 20:27 |
| cmaloney | I'd argue it's easier to not worry about the tools first and just get the word out whatever way you can | 20:27 |
| cmaloney | even if that's LinkedIn | 20:27 |
| greg-g | what cmaloney said | 20:27 |
| cmaloney | All you really need right now is a test for echo | 20:28 |
| cmaloney | The tools are secondary to finding out if there's someone else interested. | 20:29 |
| cmaloney | Once you have that, you can gauge what your group's paranoia / FLOSS / whatever leanings are | 20:29 |
| cmaloney | Some groups may be OK with a Google Doc | 20:29 |
| cmaloney | others may want to run Wordpress on a Raspberry Pi in their garage | 20:30 |
| * greg-g stops self from trolling | 20:30 | |
| trevlar | meetup is good because once you create the group it'll probably notify a lot of "related" people that might be interested in it | 20:30 |
| trevlar | so you could get a good start from that | 20:30 |
| cmaloney | yeah, we've kicked around Meetup | 20:30 |
| mathomastech | Good deal. If I go the route of mostly hack nights to begin with, recording tools (GDocs, ether, etc) will be only a minor piece. Probably wouln't need to worry to much about that until technical meetings are established. | 20:30 |
| cmaloney | (for MUG) | 20:30 |
| cmaloney | greg-g: Oh don't worry. We're pretty sure that Raspberry Pi would be solar-powered. ;) | 20:31 |
| brousch | All you really need is a website and a mailing list. Mailing list for discussion, website to give people a single place to look for all of the info | 20:33 |
| brousch | PReferably a website with an easy to remember url so you can just tell people | 20:33 |
| rick_h_ | greg-g: google docs ftw :P | 20:34 |
| rick_h_ | mathomastech: I'd only do one a month | 20:34 |
| rick_h_ | mathomastech: and maybe even just start a CHC like thing to get people around and make connections first | 20:34 |
| brousch | mathomastech: Is there an existing website or mailing list? | 20:34 |
| cmaloney | Something memorable like http://www.mybigblackcock.com/ | 20:35 |
| mathomastech | rick_h_: http://norlug.org/ | 20:35 |
| mathomastech | The mailing list is dead though. Can't subscribe or anything | 20:35 |
| brousch | Wow. Nicer than most LUG websites | 20:36 |
| brousch | heh 2008 | 20:36 |
| cmaloney | Hello Drupal | 20:36 |
| mathomastech | brousch: Yea, it is pretty nice. It hasn't been updated for about 5 years though. I'd have to see about getting control from whoever is hosting it now to revamp and update it a bit. | 20:36 |
| mathomastech | rick_h_: I was actually planning on trying to do both, but then decided that a CHC clone can be part of the LUG. | 20:38 |
| brousch | With no working mailing list, attempt to contact the webmaster: Adam Gurno <adam.gurno@gmail.com> | 20:38 |
| brousch | I would try to work with the existing folks before starting a new group | 20:38 |
| brousch | Introduce yourself. Politely ask about the status of the group and its resources. Mention that you'd like to get it going again | 20:39 |
| mathomastech | brousch: Yep. I've joined the still active (5 idlers) #norlug channel and the minnesota chanel and talked to them a bit about reviving it. | 20:39 |
| brousch | After meeting in person, they will probably be willing to hand over some control to you | 20:40 |
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