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SvetlanaAdityaRaj, what partition do you already have, is the free space allocated or unallocated?00:00
AdityaRajSvetlana, it is unallocated00:00
SvetlanaAdityaRaj, perfect. I would expect the installer to grab it and use it then.00:00
AdityaRaji dont get that option00:01
AdityaRajSvetlana, earlier i remember there used be an option for auto allocation but i cant see that now00:01
Ownixis it possible to have a bootloader on one drive launch an OS on another drive?00:02
geniiOwnix: Yes.00:02
Ownixgenii: I think I have unintentionally done that...00:02
wilee-nileeAdityaRaj, Can you run sudo fdisk -l and pastebin it?00:02
skinuxHow long should it take rsync to move 5-10G?00:03
AdityaRajwilee-nilee, what do you need to knw? i cant paste as it is a diff system00:04
skinuxIt's moving from Ubuntu's partition to a second primary partition.00:04
kxtwoI am trying to download a torrent and when I click ont eh torrent file it is asking me to pick an application.  How do I get it to default to transmission?  This happened to me once randomly before and some one told me but I dont remember00:04
geniiOwnix: A more detailed explanation might help us00:04
wilee-nileeAdityaRaj, Need the number of partitions and type and whether primary or logical, looke at from linux.00:05
Ownixgenii: okay, give me some time I running through another instal00:06
wilee-nileelooked*00:06
SvetlanaAdityaRaj, the installer does make use of the unallocated space for you; you don't need to allocate it.00:06
Svetlanakxtwo, where do you click, in Firefox?00:06
kxtwowhat?00:07
kxtwonevermind I got it00:07
SvetlanaPerfect.00:07
kxtwonot sure what you were asking anyway lol.  Also not sure why the default changed unless a Firefox update changed it.00:07
tbjrskinux,  it must have taken 10 minutes for me when I recently moved 13 GB from a platter drive to an ssd.  It didn't show a progress bar but I could see the drive light was solid the whole time.00:08
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skinuxI'm wondering if I should have started rsync from livecd, but it seemed fine to do it while using the system.00:09
AdityaRajSvetlana, it say no root file system is defined !00:10
wilee-nileeAdityaRaj, If you have 4 partitions already, and it is not gpt, that is the max on primaries.00:11
NoskcajHow do i set a catalogue location in glade 3.8?00:12
Crazyzurferhttp://i.imgur.com/kEFXsOQ.png ---> don't see my interface correctly, no launcher bar, not close button on apps, etc00:12
SvetlanaAdityaRaj, that would be odd: '/' is the main filesystem and the installer should select that automatically.00:13
aditya_Svetlana, any idea?00:14
wilee-nileeaditya_, If you did not see an auto install, I would stop and identify the partition setup, this computer is on the web right?00:16
aditya_wilee-nilee, yet is on the web00:19
tbjrI'm trying to use sync in the software center to from an earlier install on the same computer.  Each instance of Ubuntu gives the computer a different name however, the software center doesn't show both "computers".  Sync doesn't require 2 computers to be connected at the same time does it?00:19
wilee-nileeaditya_, Then open gparted take a screen shot and imagebin it00:19
wilee-nilee!screenshot | aditya_00:20
ubottuaditya_: Screenshots can be made with the [PrtScr] button. Want to show us a screenshot of your problem? Upload an image to http://imagebin.org/?page=add and post a link to it.00:20
wilee-nilee!imagebin | aditya_00:20
wilee-nileeaditya_ then post the url to it.00:20
aditya_http://imagebin.org/27296700:23
aditya_wilee-nilee, check it out00:23
k1laditya_: you have not selected where ubuntu should be installed to00:24
wilee-nileeaditya_, Whats in the ntfs?00:24
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gdosi would like to block certain users from using certain applications but not edit the menus, how can i do this? xchat for example.00:24
Guest63120I've been trying to fix grub2 for 2 hours, can someone help me ?   I've been using Linux for many years, I followed all the guides00:24
Guest63120I installed Windows and now I can't get grub menu  thus can't boot Ubuntu00:24
k1lGuest63120: load a ubuntu live-system and reinstall grub00:25
aditya_wilee-nilee, i have selected the freespace and the other ntfs is a partition for my data00:25
wilee-nileeGuest63120, You tried the bootrepair app? It generates a bootinfo script as well.00:25
Guest63120k1l, yes that's what im doing but i have some confusions.     First, fdisk -l shows that my Windows NTFS partition is the default boot partition (with a *) - is that normal ?00:26
wilee-nileeaditya_, strange it shows as sda5 though with nothing in front, can you show gparted it is in the menu?00:26
k1lGuest63120: grub and linux dont mind the boot flag.00:26
k1lGuest63120: its just for the windows loader. keep it as it is00:26
Guest63120I've done a grub-install --root-directory=/mnt /dev/sdb   (where /mnt is my Linux root partition) - it completed fine00:27
Guest63120It ran grub-update fine00:27
Guest63120but upon reboot I just get the windows booting, no menu nothing00:27
k1lGuest63120: sdb is the 2nd hdd. which doesnt get asked first after a bootloader00:27
wilee-nileeGuest63120, you booting sdb first from the bios?00:27
Guest63120oh wait00:27
Guest63120omg I forgot I had an ssd that I boot from -_-00:27
Guest63120ok let me check lol, thanks :)00:28
yellow_no_5Does anyone know how to map a network share in Ubuntu?00:28
k1lgrub needs to sit in the MBR from the first hdd that gets booted00:28
aditya_wilee-nilee, i dont have gpated00:28
aditya_wilee-nilee, do you still need that fdisk output? what was the command again?00:29
wilee-nileeaditya_, What is the version of ubuntu you have booted, they all have gparted on board the live cd.00:29
wilee-nileeaditya_, sudo fdisk -l00:29
Guest63120thank you guys, gonna reboot now it should work finally.  what a dumb thing i forgot the other drive :D00:30
Guest63120cya00:30
KurtKrautSvetlana, the commands you shown are only valid if the binary is already installed in the system. That wasn't my case.00:33
aditya_wilee-nilee, this is 12.04 lts00:34
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wilee-nileeaditya_, Something is strange, what did you use to make that area unallocated, had you used linux, the one partition should not show a logical with out a extended, and the number is to high for a single partition00:35
aditya_i deleted an existing partition00:35
wilee-nileeaditya_, with what?00:36
aditya_wilee-nilee, here is the pastebin: http://pastebin.com/XEJDZRS00:36
aditya_wilee-nilee, i used the installer00:36
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aditya_wow i do have gparted. sorry about that00:37
aditya_wilee-nilee, do you still need its screenshot?00:37
wilee-nileeaditya_, Your pastebin  was removed. Never the less the numbering is funky, something is up.00:37
wilee-nileeI'm not sure the installer renumbers partitions like gparted does00:38
wilee-nileeautomatically with a delete.00:38
ice9how to get the pixel shader and opengl version?00:38
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Guest85262hi00:39
chaotic_goodwhat is command to upgrade from 11 to 12?00:39
Guest85262change name00:39
wilee-nilee!eol  | chaotic_good00:39
ubottuchaotic_good: End-Of-Life is the time when security updates and support for an Ubuntu release stop, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases for more information. Looking to upgrade from an EOL release? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades00:39
geniiGuest85262: /nick newname00:39
wilee-nileechaotic_good, read the upgrades link00:39
aditya_wilee-nilee, let me try again00:39
Guest85262aditya00:40
aditya_wilee-nilee, what site should i use to make the paste?00:40
wilee-nileeaditya_, the fdisk is not really important, you have a problem with that sda5, the installer would balk at this the numbering is wrong.00:41
wilee-nileeaditya_, A sda5 would be inside a extended partition normally, can explain why it is not?00:42
wilee-nileeunless there was a gpt setup which there is no sign of so far00:43
raedhello guys this err msg appear to me failed to download repository00:43
reisiowilee-nilee: why would it balk?00:43
young_大家好00:43
wilee-nileereisio, Have you looked at the install picture?00:43
reisionope00:44
reisioyoung_: hi00:44
young_hi00:44
wilee-nileereisio, http://imagebin.org/27296700:44
reisiohi again :)00:44
aditya_wilee-nilee, not sure00:44
pushpopwhats the best gui available to manage iptables?00:44
young_where are you?00:44
young_reisio, hi00:44
young_reisio ,where are you?00:44
reisiopushpop: could try ufw00:44
reisioyoung_: right here00:44
reisiowilee-nilee: the window certainly seems upset, but not about it being sda500:45
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reisiodon't mean to butt in, just piqued my curiosity00:45
aditya_wilee-nilee, http://paste.ubuntu.com/620305700:46
young_reisio, Ubuntu有在线音乐和视频播软件吗?00:47
wilee-nileeaditya_, the fdisk shows different than you installer.00:47
wilee-nileeyour*00:48
reisioyoung_: yes00:48
reisioyoung_: #ubuntu-cn00:48
young_reisio, thank you!00:49
aditya_wilee-nilee, what do you suggest?00:49
wilee-nileeaditya_, close the installer and open gparted, take a screen shot and imagebin it. It looks like you tried to remove sda1, that is okay, if you have no windows to boot, however sda2 is the extended that sda5 is inside of.00:51
wilee-nileeaditya_, In the installer shot you show no sda200:51
chaotic_goodok eol 11?00:52
chaotic_good11 to 12?00:52
chaotic_goodhow upgrade?00:52
wilee-nileechaotic_good, You have to make a new sources.list kit is in that link from the bot.00:53
wilee-nileeit*00:53
aditya_wilee-nilee, there is a pen drive connected that i am using to install ubuntu00:53
wilee-nileeaditya_, and?00:53
wilee-nileeaditya_, I see the pendrive in the fdisk, if you do not understand tell me, it is okay, we want to make no mistakes.00:54
aditya_wilee-nilee, i am not sure.. i just want to install ubuntu00:55
wilee-nileeaditya_, Right and with the way the installer does not jibe with the fdisk means we need to look at the HD with gparted, to confirm you still hace the partions the fdisk shows but the installer does not.00:56
aditya_wilee-nilee, should i share gparted screenshot?00:57
wilee-nileeaditya_, gparted is in the menu, open it hit the prtsc key and imagebin it00:57
wilee-nileeyes00:58
wilee-nileenothing private there if that's the concern00:58
raven_How do I make a shortcut to a wine program on the desktop00:58
aditya_wilee-nilee, http://imagebin.org/27296900:59
wilee-nileeaditya_, Thats good is the installer closed?00:59
aditya_wilee-nilee, no the installer is still running01:00
reisioraven_: just make a .desktop launcher, and have it run wine path/to/executable01:00
reisioraven_: with WINEPREFIX, if you have more than one01:00
wilee-nileeaditya_, close the installer, you have no unallocated space, we will do that in gparted, then it should install.01:00
raven_reisio can I send you a PM01:00
aditya_wilee-nilee, done01:00
reisioraven_: don't see why not01:01
wilee-nileeaditya_, Coo just right click sda1 only and delete, leave sda2 alone it has to stay.01:01
wilee-nileeCool*01:01
wilee-nileeaditya_, I assume you have no widows to boot right?01:02
wilee-nileewindows*01:02
TitaniumI installed the binary AMD GPU driver from their site, and now when I login I get the background and nothing else. I used to get that error screen about the GPU not working before I installed the driver. I can right click on background and go to settings but cannot get to the terminal01:03
Titaniumi enabled ssh01:03
TitaniumWhere do I look or how do i fix this?01:03
aditya_wilee-nilee, i want to confirm what is on sda1 how can i do that?01:04
aditya_it is not mounted at the moment01:04
wilee-nileeTitanium, generally your best to use what is in the repos.01:04
aditya_and i cant find an option to do that on gparted interface01:04
milamberTitanium: not sure what you are asking, but ctrl + alt + t will get you a virtual terminal, to go to the actual console it's ctrl + alt + f2, ctrl + alt + f7 to get back01:04
Freel0aderhi01:05
Freel0aderi have an iso01:05
wilee-nileeaditya_, right click the sda1 partition "the image" of it and click delete, then hit the green check mark to run it.01:05
Freel0aderubuntu desktop01:05
Freel0adercan i stick it on a usb stick without formatting stick?01:05
wilee-nileeFreel0ader, yep dd it01:05
Freel0aderwill it format stick?01:06
wilee-nileenope01:06
Titaniumwilee-nilee those do not work at all01:06
reisioFreel0ader: insofar as it will copy an FS to the stick, yes01:06
milamberFreel0ader: what was on there won't be available any more01:06
aditya_wilee-nilee, i just want to  be sure i am not deleting a wrong partition as with installer i deleted a partion of 21 gb01:06
Titaniummilamber thank you that helps a lot!01:06
wilee-nileeTitanium, Are you sure is all I can say, and in what circumstances?01:06
Freel0adermilamber, so should i copy everything off of stick01:06
Freel0aderthen dd it01:06
Freel0aderthen put everything on stick?01:06
Titaniumi tried all day yesterday with the ones from repos and the default ones01:07
Titaniumthe ones i wgetted from amd's site worked perfect the first time, then I tried to install wine and it did this01:07
Titaniumwilee-nilee then I re-intalled ubuntu and it still is doing this01:07
milamberFreel0ader: anything you want off the stick should be copied before you dd the iso01:07
milamberTitanium: np01:07
Freel0aderoh?01:07
Freel0aderoh right01:08
wilee-nileeaditya_, With the installer you tried to delete sda1 and sda2 you can't delete sda2 without removing sda5 first. The window at the bottom of gparted tells you what you are doing once you have chosen.01:08
wilee-nileeaditya_, You want to keep sda2 and sda5 and just remove sda1.01:08
aditya_wilee-nilee, ok done01:10
wilee-nileeaditya_, Yuu will have no swap, unless you resize the sda5 as well, you only can put one primary in that space, and have the partition numbers be in numerical order going up from left to right.01:10
ice9does ubuntu runs nice with AMD processors on laptops?01:10
reisiothere even data on there?01:10
reisioice9: yup01:10
ice9reisio, better than intel or same?01:11
Freel0aderok friends01:11
wilee-nileeaditya_, you can install now, and it should give you the option in the gui, not the something else choice, no swap though if asked.01:11
Freel0ader  is my thumb drive/dev/sdb101:11
reisioice9: mmm, it's probably close enough that it'd be incredibly hard to measure a difference01:11
reisioice9: they're all supported very well01:11
reisioice9: in case you didn't know, no OS supports more hardware than GNU/Linux01:11
ice9reisio, and what is the best supported graphics card?01:12
buuIs there anyway CLI way to interrogate your wireless card and ask it for exact specifications, specifically max speed and so on?01:12
reisioice9: the best is probably intel graphics, but that also tends to not be the most impressive :)01:12
reisioice9: amd/ati and nvidia graphics are both well supported for most devices01:12
aditya_wilee-nilee, ok i am shrinking sda5 to free up space. its taking some time01:12
wilee-nileeTitanium, Did you ever check the additional drivers?01:13
reisioaditya_: is there data on sda5?01:13
wilee-nileereisio, Yeah they want to keep it.01:13
aditya_reisio, yes about 20 gb01:13
reisio20gb wouldn't take long to copy elsewhere01:13
wilee-nileethats a windows generated extended, yeah I would re do that hd myself01:14
aditya_reisio, i would   do that as last resort01:14
reisio:)01:14
reisioprobably a lot less compressed, too01:15
wilee-nileeaditya_, You would be best served if you copied it off, and redid the HD, so you would have the right space for ubuntu and a swap, and the ntfs.01:16
reisiohaving a copy of something would make it 100% safe as well01:16
reisioresizing is more like 90% safe01:16
aditya_wilee-nilee, ok i will do that01:17
wilee-nileeaditya_, Cool, good idea, thanks for you help reisio01:17
wilee-nileeyour*01:17
Freel0aderaww man01:18
Freel0adermy laptop doesnt have option for usb boot01:18
reisioFreel0ader: you sure? Is it quite old?01:18
Freel0aderno, not at all01:18
gmachine_24Hello. I want to extract a series of zip files but each one to its own folder using cli; I can't figure out the arguments to use . . . after "unzip" . . .01:18
reisiothen it probably has01:18
wilee-nileeFreel0ader, You could try plop.01:18
Freel0aderbut there's nothing in the bios about it01:19
reisioFreel0ader: how about the boot menu?01:19
Freel0aderinspiron laptop, core i501:19
wilee-nileeFreel0ader, without it formatted it may not see it, not sure really.01:19
reisiogmachine_24: -d01:19
aditya_wilee-nilee, but i am unable to mount sda501:19
reisiofor i in *.zip; do unzip "$i" -d "${i%.zip}"; done01:19
reisiosomething like that01:19
Freel0aderim saying i dont see an option01:20
gmachine_24reisio: as in uzip *zip -d   ??01:20
gmachine_24oh01:20
gmachine_24OK I will try this01:20
wilee-nileeaditya_, You ran the delete with the green check in gparted? and close it?01:20
woobyI am usung 12.04 and btrfs for /01:21
woobyI got an ugly folder called @ that I want to get rid of. I learned that it is a subvolume01:21
woobycan I remove that?01:21
aditya_wilee-nilee, i need to mount the parition first to copy the content right01:21
wilee-nileeaditya_, Can you answer the question?01:21
aditya_wilee-nilee, sorry about that yeah i deleted it with green check mark but i dont remember if i closed it or not01:22
reisiogmachine_24: this is even better: find . -iname '*.zip' -exec sh -c 'unzip {} -d $(basename -s .zip {})' \;01:22
gmachine_24reisio: I get an error that says "filename not matched"01:22
wilee-nileeaditya_, Close it, then mount sda5 from home in the left panel.01:23
aditya_i am rebooting the system now01:23
reisiogmachine_24: sounds like you didn't use the command I gave you :)01:23
gmachine_24reisio: thanks but I get this error message sh: Syntax error: "(" unexpected01:23
gmachine_24I cut and pasted it01:24
Freel0ader  Inspiron 15R Notebook (Inspiron 552001:24
gmachine_24reisio: this is what I ran    find . -iname '*.zip' -exec sh -c 'unzip {} -d $(basename -s .zip {})' \;01:24
Freel0aderhttp://askubuntu.com/questions/231671/cant-boot-ubuntu-12-10-from-usb-key-on-dell-inspiron-15r-5520-2012-model01:25
gmachine_24the ( always seems to kick out an error01:25
reisiogmachine_24: try -exec bash instead of -exec sh01:25
gmachine_24reisio: still no good01:26
Freel0aderhow do i know if dd worked for the iso?01:26
gmachine_24reisio: I get   bash: -c: line 0: syntax error near unexpected token `('01:27
reisiogmachine_24: let me see the command you're running?01:27
reisioFreel0ader: it'll boot01:28
Freel0aderim not sure i dd'd it right01:28
SvetlanaKurtKraut, ah, acknowledged :)01:28
gmachine_24reisio: find . -iname '*.zip' -exec bash -c 'unzip {} -d $(basename -s .zip {})' \;01:28
Freel0aderyeah, it cant mount file01:28
Freel0adercant access location01:28
Freel0adersudo dd bs=4M if=ubuntu-12.04.3-desktop-i386.iso of=/dev/sdb01:29
reisiogmachine_24: mmm, what does this say?: help | head -101:29
Freel0aderi did that. what did i do wrong?01:29
reisioFreel0ader: what'd it say?01:29
Freel0ader   Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System01:29
Freel0ader/dev/sdb1   *          64     1447935      723936   17  Hidden HPFS/NTFS01:29
gmachine_24reisio: GNU bash, version 4.1.5(1)-release (i486-pc-linux-gnu)01:29
reisiogmachine_24: well that is odd01:30
gmachine_24reisio: what is odd01:30
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reisiogmachine_24: that it's failing01:30
gmachine_24reisio: yeah. I can easily do this with the archive extractor but wanted to learn how using cli; at the moment it has taken up too much of my time though. thanks for your trouble.01:31
sybaritengood evening (night)01:31
reisioFreel0ader: pardon?01:31
sybariteni'm using a ubuntu 12 live system, and i'm trying to install a package called live-magic but i'm failing01:32
pushpop.01:32
sybariten(to find it) ....  i think its supposed to be inthe universe repositories01:32
Titaniumwilee-nilee how do I check additional divers?01:32
Freel0aderwhat to do?01:32
daftykinssybariten: did you enable them?01:32
sybaritenany ideas? i'm just doing sudo apg-get install live-magic01:32
Freel0aderi dd'd the iso to usb01:33
sybaritendaftykins: hm yeah i believe i did, via the graphical tool....  then i did a sudo apt-get update01:33
Freel0aderbut fdisk says this01:33
Freel0ader   Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System01:33
Freel0ader/dev/sdb1   *          64     1447935      723936   17  Hidden HPFS/NTFS01:33
reisioFreel0ader: that does not appear to be a problem to me01:33
aditya_what is the fastest way to transfer a single 20 gb file over network to another ubuntu system?01:33
reisioFreel0ader: a problem would be if it didn't boot up01:33
Freel0aderi cant mount it either01:34
reisioaditya_: scp is the most straightforward way01:34
sybaritendaftykins: for instance i can search the pakckage chromium now after i enabled the universe repos, which i cant do directly from boot. So something has improved.01:34
reisioaditya_: scp path/to/file user@ip.ip.ip.ip:optional/path/optionalFileName01:34
aditya_reisio, i am using scp but it says it will take 2 hours +01:34
reisioaditya_: well even faster ways aren't likely to make it much more faster, sounds like a big file01:34
daftykins!info live-magic01:34
ubottuPackage live-magic does not exist in raring01:34
Freel0aderscratchthat01:35
aditya_crap01:35
Freel0aderi can mount it01:35
sybaritendaftykins: hm, whats raring ?  (except for a funny word in swedish)01:35
daftykinsreisio: that's not true, samba would drop the encryption and go disk speed to disk speed, assuming gigabit01:35
daftykinssybariten: ubuntu 13.0401:35
aditya_reisio, i am using local network but it is still showing me upload speed of 2.5 mb/sec is there a limit on scp?01:35
reisiodaftykins: that's quite an assumption01:36
sybaritendaftykins: ok i think i'm on 12....01:36
daftykinsreisio: it is? doesn't seem so in my years of networking D:01:36
* reisio shrugs01:36
daftykinssybariten: can you pastebin the /etc/apt/sources.list file?01:37
Freel0aderhttp://askubuntu.com/questions/231671/cant-boot-ubuntu-12-10-from-usb-key-on-dell-inspiron-15r-5520-2012-model01:38
Freel0aderwas i supposed to dd?01:38
reisioFreel0ader: supposed to? You just said you had01:38
daftykinsFreel0ader: the fact it says it's hidden is suspect. use gparted to unhide the partition and check the boot flag01:38
Freel0adergot it01:38
Freel0aderbooting now01:39
sybaritendaftykins: bien sur01:39
raven_having more trouble with ubuntu..01:40
raven_does ubuntu use pulseaudio?01:40
reisioraven_: yes01:40
raven_ah reisio01:40
sybaritenhttp://pastebin.com/qDvyg0xt  there you go daftykins01:40
raven_surely you can help me01:40
raven_reisio are you familiar with pavucontrol01:41
reisioraven_: I'm familiar with its existence :p01:41
reisioI don't use pulse, personally01:41
raven_reisio why not?01:41
gdosnot a programming question, per se, but a question about ubuntu in general; i am attempting to compile a program using g++ and get the following error: ARCADE.C:12:46: fatal error: conio.h: No such file or directory compilation terminated.01:41
Equssybariten: http://www.ubuntuupdates.org/package/core/precise/universe/base/live-magic01:41
arquebusI installed ubuntu on my new asus laptop and networking wont work. Can someone refer me to info on how I go about getting it to work?01:42
Svetlanaarquebus, wired or wireless?01:42
reisioarquebus: wireless?01:42
SvetlanaAssuming, assuming. :)01:42
raven_under ubuntu 12.04 I'm continually having audio problems.. in particular skype gets no input from my webcam microphone01:44
postmodernis there a ubuntu tar image I can uncompress and chroot into?01:44
arquebusSvetlana:  reisio: wireless01:44
daftykinssybariten: hrmm that all looks fine, i don't understand that i'm afraid. but i'm certainly not super experienced01:44
sybaritendaftykins: do you find it yourself if you do an apt-cache search?01:44
Freel0aderis there an ubuntu that fits on a cd instead of a 750mb file that requires a dvd?01:45
sybaritenEqus: hm, so if i understand correctly it has been removed, for some reason01:45
Equssybariten:   it would seem so01:45
reisioFreel0ader: yes, it's called the 'minimalcd'01:45
reisiopostmodern: look into debootstrap01:46
daftykinssybariten: i'm not currently on a 12.04 install, so i can't confirm unfortunately01:46
sybaritendaftykins: no, but in a later one01:46
daftykinsi'm actually in older right now :)01:46
daftykins10.04.401:47
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daftykins$ apt-cache search live-magic01:47
daftykinslive-magic - GUI frontend to create Debian LiveCDs, netboot images, etc.01:47
daftykinsit's here though01:47
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sybaritendaftykins: ah. Well lucky you then!01:48
geniiInteresting.01:48
sybariten;)01:48
daftykins^_^01:48
Equslive -magic is gone from the debian repos as well01:48
sybaritenhmmm01:49
sybariteni have managed to download something via git01:50
SvetlanaThat will not be handled by Ubuntu's update manager.01:50
Equswell not totally true     source code is there    no packages01:50
sybaritenAccording to these instructions  https://chris-lamb.co.uk/projects/live-magic    but i seem to be missing some python components when trying to run it right away, so i'm probably in Dependency Hell (TM)01:50
SvetlanaIf you do it using git the Ubuntu's software manager will not handle the dependencies for you.01:51
SvetlanaYou'll have to read the documentation which the package maintainer already read and processed, and install the dependencies manually, unless the software has a script.01:51
milambersybariten: are you familiar with apt-file   ?01:52
sybaritenSvetlana: no no, ofcourse not01:52
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Guest31917hi everyone, someone here been in bodybuilding since the late 80's and currently still active?01:53
sybaritenSvetlana: but theres nothgin like some banging-your-head-against-a-wall at 03:50 a sunday/monday night01:53
sybaritenGuest31917: haha now thats the most random question ive seen on freenode , i think01:53
sybaritenmilamber: nope...?01:54
Guest31917i know01:54
sybaritenGuest31917: seriously, why #ubuntu? just because its big?01:54
Guest31917it is big but totally diferent01:54
pfifo#defocus is big and might actuall be a legit place to ask01:55
milambersybariten: when compiling source, it is your friend: apt-file search <file name or library you are missing>01:55
sybaritenpfifo: they can be kinda wankers sometimes though and to be honest its often less active than this one... like most chans01:56
sybaritenmilamber: aha ok, wort a try01:56
sybaritenthanks01:56
milambersybariten: sudo apt-get install apt-file && apt-file update01:57
pfifosybariten: when compiling from source 'apt-get build-dep' isa good friend too01:57
milambersybariten: also, apt-cache search and then piping into grep is also helpful01:57
sybaritenmilamber: pfifo : ok!02:06
Svetlanasybariten, what are you trying to do, submit them a patch? Or just install a latest version?02:07
pfifotoday I picked up my 90 day chip at AA02:11
PeNNyWiSE182_grats02:11
pfifothat wasnt meant for here, but thanks, lol02:12
PeNNyWiSE182_lol02:12
PeNNyWiSE182_figured as much, but well done!02:12
wilee-nileepfifo, Good for you I was just thinking of watching the Bill W movie, he and the partner were fans of Carl Jung.02:12
wilee-nileeAA is a jungian institute to some extent, in some interpretations02:13
Freel0aderok i booted ubuntu desktop02:14
Freel0aderi cant find a terminal anywhere02:14
Freel0aderhow do i open a terminal?02:14
wilee-nileeFreel0ader, ctrl-alt-t02:14
doug__hi02:15
wilee-nileeFreel0ader, If this is unity the top button is access02:15
Freel0aderwhat's the default root pw?02:15
Freel0aderoh sudo02:15
wilee-nileeFreel0ader, there is not one, on the live or install, just a users password.02:16
pfifoFreel0ader: a randomized string02:16
wilee-nilee!sudo | Freel0ader02:17
ubottuFreel0ader: sudo is a command to run command-line programs with superuser privileges ("root") (also see !cli). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for more information. For graphical applications see !gksu (GNOME, Xfce), or !kdesudo (KDE). If you're unable to execute commands with sudo see: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/fixsudo02:17
buuAnyone have some tips about how to query the cabilities of my wireless card, what exactly its capable of, what its connected at, why its doing what its doing?02:19
buuPreferably cli02:19
Dr_Willisthe various iw* tools buu02:19
Dr_Willisiwlist  and so forth02:19
buuDr_Willis: I've been looking at iwconfig and iwist02:19
Dr_Willischeck their mnan pages - they mantion some other commands  as 'related commands'02:19
buuJust says "Bit Rate=65MB/s"02:20
buuer, Mb02:20
Dr_Willisiw<tab> shows several other iw* tools here02:20
geniibuu: Try sudo ethtool -k <interfacename>02:22
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buugenii: Well, that gives me a lot of settings02:23
buuI suppose I should rephrase my initial question here, how can I improve the speed of my wireless connection from a ubuntu laptop?02:23
buuThat's my ultimate goal here02:23
buuRight now a simple wget is maxing out at around 65Mb/s02:24
sybaritenSvetlana: oh im just trying to run this tool, live-magic02:24
pfifobuu: make sure your not using the same channel as your neghibors02:24
buupfifo: Would that matter even if I was next to the router?02:24
sybariteni've actually managed to start live-magic now....  but appearently ttheres something called live-helper thats necessary "under the hood" so it will just stall when trying to do an operation02:25
pfifobuu: possibly... can you get better speed using a different distro or OS02:25
sybaritenand it seems as if live-helper isnt in my repos either...  :-/02:25
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Equssybariten: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/live-helper02:27
pfifo!info live-magic02:27
ubottuPackage live-magic does not exist in raring02:27
pfifo!info live-magic precise02:27
ubottuPackage live-magic does not exist in precise02:27
tet_Hello?02:28
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daftykinstet_: hi02:28
Equssybariten:    seems you are trying to use an old and now unsupported  program02:28
Slade-wtf is this nginx version: nginx/1.2.6 (Ubuntu)  did ubuntu start changing version numbers on things?02:28
Svetlanapfifo, it should be interesting to know why Ubuntu folks deleted this package from the repository. http://www.ubuntuupdates.org/package/core/precise/universe/base/live-magic says so.02:28
daftykinsSlade-: it's hard to tell where you're taking that from02:29
Slade-daftykins: /usr/sbin/nginx -v02:29
pfifoSvetlana: buggy and unmaintained, was copied from oneiric... https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/precise/+source/live-magic/1.1402:29
Svetlana!info nginx02:29
ubottunginx (source: nginx): small, powerful, scalable web/proxy server. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.2.6-1ubuntu3.2 (raring), package size 6 kB, installed size 89 kB02:29
Slade-yea. whats the real version02:29
SvetlanaSlade-: ^^^^ this is the version. It does have a 'ubuntu' bit but is otherwise consistent with what software version the package contains.02:30
Slade-Svetlana: doubt it02:30
Slade-unless they suddenly dropped a major release between updates (I just upgraded to new version of ubuntu)02:30
SvetlanaCould be.02:31
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Svetlana!info nginx precise02:31
tet_Hey, is it possible I get some install help?02:31
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Svetlana!info nginx oneiric02:31
ubottunginx (source: nginx): small, but very powerful and efficient web server and mail proxy. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.1.19-1ubuntu0.2 (precise), package size 6 kB, installed size 84 kB02:31
ubottu'oneiric' is not a valid distribution: extras, kubuntu-backports, kubuntu-experimental, kubuntu-updates, lucid, lucid-backports, lucid-proposed, medibuntu, partner, precise, precise-backports, precise-proposed, quantal, quantal-backports, quantal-proposed, raring, raring-backports, raring-proposed, saucy, saucy-backports, saucy-proposed, stable, testing, unstable02:31
* Svetlana sighs.02:31
wilee-nileeSlade-, For the record acronyms for swearing phrases are not allowed here02:31
Svetlana!info nginx quantal02:32
ubottunginx (source: nginx): small, powerful, scalable web/proxy server. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.2.1-2.2ubuntu0.1 (quantal), package size 7 kB, installed size 86 kB02:32
Slade-wilee-nilee: k02:32
SvetlanaSlade-,from precise to quantal, they changed from 1.1.19 to 1.2.1.02:32
Slade-Svetlana: hmm would it have overridden my self installed copy of nginx?02:33
Slade-trying to figure out how i lost websocket support running a do-upgrade-release..  (1.3 minimum version)02:33
SvetlanaI would expect that to go to a different directory. A very primitive way to check could be to try running 'locate nginx'. (I think user-installed things would go to /usr/local/ in some cases.)02:33
Slade-guess i'll poke around. very odd.. thanks for info02:34
Dr_Willisself installed - as in compiled from source?02:37
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The_Acid_Toyhow do i set multiple ipv6 addresses in ubuntu02:38
cfhowlett!ipv6|The_Acid_Toy,02:38
ubottuThe_Acid_Toy,: For an introduction to IPv6 and information on tunneling IPv6 through IPv4 connections, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IPv6 | To disable IPv6 see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WebBrowsingSlowIPv6IPv402:38
The_Acid_Toywhen i try and make a alias interface and restart i get this error02:38
The_Acid_Toyerror: "net.ipv6.conf.eth0:2.autoconf" is an unknown key02:39
jpdsThe_Acid_Toy: Why make an alaias? An interface itself can have multiple addresses.02:39
The_Acid_Toyhow?02:39
cfhowlettThe_Acid_Toy, see the link ...02:40
The_Acid_Toyi am02:40
cfhowlettThe_Acid_Toy, also sounds like a possible question for #ubuntu-server02:40
The_Acid_Toythanks i will try there02:40
purahloo02:41
reisio'lo02:41
comptrollerI am having a trouble with Teeworlds.  Whenever I open the game it takes up both of my monitors (which are of different resolutions) and I can't get it confined just to my primary (higher resolution monitor).  I also can't quit and need to restart to exit. I just installed Ubuntu 13.10 and am using  open source drivers. What should I do?02:45
cfhowlett!saucy|comptroller,02:46
ubottucomptroller,: Ubuntu 13.10 (Saucy Salamander) will be the 19th release of Ubuntu. Announcement: http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/1252 - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1. Release date will be 17th October 2013.02:46
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TripSecAnyone not afk?03:06
HaltingStateif i do the 13.10 beta will it upgrade to release automatically when its ready?03:07
bazhang!final | HaltingState03:07
ubottuHaltingState: If you install a development version of Ubuntu Saucy and keep up with package updates, then you will be upgraded to the official release of 13.10 when it comes out. To make sure, type « sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade » in a terminal.03:07
TripSecam I able to use piratebay with ktorrent?03:08
cfhowlettTripSec, ktorrent will download torrents ... source agnostic. so ... yes03:08
TripSecI can't get the torrent to come up in ktorrent when I select the magnet in piratebay03:09
buuTripSec: select it? What exact steps are you taking?03:10
cjwelbornit's supposed to automatically start ktorrent, which it does. but it never starts the download. it gets stuck on 'examining magnet link'. at least, that's what I have seen. Its not just piratebay, the magnet link I was clicking was from a different source.03:11
TripSecI go to the specific torrent, then try to get the magnet link and the launch application window appears and asks to choose and application but once i select ktorrent nothing happens03:12
buuTripSec: Can you manually start ktorrent and copy the magnet link into it?03:12
cfhowlettTripSec, test: install a different torrent handler - transmission.  try that instead03:12
TripSecI did, I also tried qbittorrent and they all do the same03:13
cfhowlettTripSec, and non PB torrents?03:13
buuTripSec: I mean, does it work when you do it that way?03:13
buuManually start then add03:13
TripSecI'll try03:14
TripSecbut yes non pb torrent also03:14
cfhowlettTripSec, so you get no torrents.  Could it be a router block?  try a different internet input03:15
Slade-!info nginx saucy03:18
ubottunginx (source: nginx): small, powerful, scalable web/proxy server. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.4.1-3ubuntu1 (saucy), package size 5 kB, installed size 90 kB03:18
Slade-hmm03:18
TripSeccfhowlett, still same results03:18
Slade-wonder if i can install that safely03:19
Dr_Willismixing packages from differntre releases is not a good idea03:19
postmoderntrying to use debootstrap to setup a testing chroot, i used --variant=buildd but after schroot'ing in apt-get cannot be found?03:19
cfhowlettTripSec, seems to me your torrents capability is blocked somehow.  I assume it worked and then it stopped?  what changed?03:19
Slade-yea. guess i'll just use the packages from the nginx site03:21
Slade-no idea where my previouis version went03:22
TripSeccfhowlett, this is the first time tryin to dl a torrent on ubuntu. I usually use utorrent with windows on my laptop03:23
SvetlanaSlade-, if you use packages from the nginx site without a PPA you will have to manually update them I suspect.03:24
Slade-Svetlana: yea i just dont know where my previous version went03:24
Slade-i'm over it for now, just trying to get it back03:24
Slade-cant overwrite the previous version with the one from the site either03:25
cfhowlettTripSec,  try this: purge and reinstall the apps.  make sure you kill the .hidden configuration files in your /home03:26
Valdusall: is clamtk the best virus scanner for ubuntu 12.04 LTS?03:34
SvetlanaWhatever GUI you choose, it is clamav and is good.03:34
Dr_WillisValdus:  best is to use several differnt scanners. to reduce  false positives and more possible hits03:34
SvetlanaGood point.03:35
cfhowlett!virus|Valdus,03:35
ubottuValdus,: Antivirus is something you don't need on !Linux. except where files are then passed to windows computers (perhaps using samba), See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Antivirus03:35
Dr_WillisValdus:  you do realize that  the main task of av softwer  is to scan for windows viruses in files. :)03:35
Paulus68_1is there a channel specific for ubuntu server related questions?03:35
SvetlanaYes. #ubuntu-server03:35
ValdusDr_Willis: i didn't know that, but tanks for letting me know haha03:35
ValdusDr_Willis: do you have any suggestions for other scanner to use?03:35
Dr_WillisValdus:  so i imagine if you re not acnning windows files.. then you dont need av software on linux03:36
jamie_can anyone tell me the most popular distro of linux? is it Unity? kde?03:36
Dr_WillisValdus:  if you are worried about viruses on liniux.. theres not much to worry about03:36
daftykinsjamie_: distrowatch.org03:36
SvetlanaValdus, note what ubottu told you; it answers the question somewhat.03:36
Dr_Willisjamie_:  Unity and KDE are desktop - not disrtos03:36
jamie_what's the most popular desktop then ?03:36
ValdusSvetlana: yeah, makes sense03:37
ValdusSo if i don't use something like wine then i don't have anything to worry about?03:37
cfhowlettjamie_, unity but ... who cares?  what do YOU need it to and what are YOUR preferences.  configuring your device based on popularity and public opinion is just lazy.03:37
jamie_cfhowlett: i care, that's why i'm asking03:37
Ari-Yang!de03:38
ubottuIn den meisten Ubuntu-Kanälen wird nur Englisch gesprochen. Für deutschsprachige Hilfe besuche bitte #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #edubuntu-de oder #ubuntu-at. Einfach "/join #ubuntu-de" eingeben. Danke für Dein Verständnis!03:38
Ari-Yang!desktop03:38
ubottuA desktop environment is what "puts the pieces of a !GUI together". The available desktop environments in Ubuntu are !GNOME (ubuntu-desktop), !KDE (kubuntu-desktop), !Xfce (xubuntu-desktop), !LXDE (lubuntu-desktop), IceWM, !Fluxbox, WindowMaker (wmaker), FVWM and others - See also !Flavors03:38
bwaynecompiling my own kernel just for fun. i've gone through menuconfig and removed stuff I don't want. However, when I make I still see these modules being compiled. I was thinking that if I deselecte them then they wouldn't be included in the kernel. So why are they being compiled?03:39
Slade-which mailx package is recommended? seems to be 303:43
TripSeccfhowlett, i got it working. Thanks for your help03:44
cfhowlettTripSec, how?  what was the fix?03:45
bwayneSlade-: it depends on how feature rich you want your MUA to be. heirloom-mailx is more feature-rich.03:46
Slade-bwayne: nah just need basic03:47
Slade-i'll use it tho. its small03:47
TripSeccfhowlett, first purged and reinstalled apps, killed .hidden config in home like you said and went into firefox prefrences, applications, then went to magnet and selected transmission-gtk to use with them03:48
cfhowlettTripSec, ok then.  Glad it all worked out.  Be safe, have fun.03:48
TripSecThanks man, you too.03:48
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raven_hello everyone, here are my issues. On Ubuntu 12.04 I get no sound from Google Chrome at all. Additionally flash videos, such as youtube videos, start playing and then stop playing only a few seconds into the video. Also with the google music web app in chrome the songs do not start playing at all, they stay at 00:00.03:54
bwayneraven_: do you have sound from local files?03:55
raven_bwayne well I have sound from skype I'm on a call right now03:56
TripSecraven_ , have you tried to see if it worked on firefox?03:56
raven_how do I killall firefox03:58
raven_youtube force closed it I wanna try it one once more though03:58
wilee-nileeraven_, with killall firefox03:58
raven_no that doesn't work03:59
raven_it's something like killall mozilla firefox03:59
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raven_interesting... so I opened youtube in Opera and it played a video, but it was muted in the applet. Soon as I brought the volume up the video stopped playing and froze04:00
cfhowlettraven_, updated lately?04:01
raven_cfhowlett updated what? apt?04:02
cfhowlettraven_, thinking that perhaps you're using some outdated packages.  open a terminal and run the following to get all your packages updated:  sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade04:03
raven_cfhowlett I can try but the install is fresh as of this morning04:04
wilee-nileeraven_, works everytime here.04:06
cfhowlettraven_, what version?  and did you install restricted extras?04:06
ak5hi! Can I get dpkg -i to behave so that it doesn't install if it is already installed?04:11
xmetaloops forgot i logged in here lol ... got side-tracked studying04:13
Dr_WillisHmm.m Getting wifi disconnecting for somtning lately. :(04:16
xmetal(i know i am latel) but for raven, I'd run the package manager and get the latest updates for Opera (if thats the browser you like best or use most...w/e) and flash updates04:20
xmetalback to studying :)04:20
Paulus68_1lag is killing me04:30
newuserwhich uses less battery power - lan or wifi ?04:33
newuserpdf editors for ubuntu ?04:34
Dr_Willisid say wired networking would use less power newuser04:34
newuserDr_Willis: how much less ?04:34
Dr_Willisnewuser:  given how wireless power need can vary greatly on the card, distance, a/b/g/n  i have no idea04:35
Dr_Willisalso depends on how much the network is being used i imagine. ;)04:35
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Dr_Willisi think im fighting a power issue right now. and wireless  ;)04:37
newuserDr_Willis: lol ok, and second question - good pdf editors for ubuntu ?04:37
Dr_Willisraspbnerry pi works great wired.. wireless - it has issues.. due to the small power supply i got. ;)  Just upgraded the Powar.04:37
wiakis there a way to use rsync to speed up download over ssh?04:37
Dr_WillisI never edit pdf,. i rarely even read pdfs' so no idea newuser04:38
newuseranyone else ?04:38
Dr_Williswiak:  you might want to use wget perhaps?   but you would need some sort of server serveing the files04:38
wiaklol04:39
RakkoI'm going crazy here. How can I automatically detect USB drives and mount them from outside an X serssion? I thought I had success before using udevil, but now I see that that requires supplying the drive. What I'm thinking of is something that just mounts everything plugged in, like when you're at the desktop.04:40
Dr_WillisRakko:  theres some auto-mounting services in the repos  'autofs' perhaps?04:41
Dr_WillisRakko:  also i you do have the  the desktop installed. there are the gnome gvfs tools you can use in the cli04:41
Dr_Willis!info pmount04:41
ubottupmount (source: pmount): mount removable devices as normal user. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9.23-2 (raring), package size 94 kB, installed size 840 kB04:41
Dr_Willis!info udisks04:41
ubottuudisks (source: udisks): storage media interface. In component main, is optional. Version 1.0.4-7build1 (raring), package size 241 kB, installed size 1096 kB04:41
Dr_Willis!info autofs04:41
ubottuautofs (source: autofs): kernel-based automounter for Linux. In component main, is extra. Version 5.0.7-3ubuntu1 (raring), package size 647 kB, installed size 1491 kB04:41
Dr_Willisits all going to be about the details of how you want to access the devices04:42
RakkoOK. I know it was something I have installed, and I do have udevil and udisks, but not pmount04:42
Dr_Willisone thing to watch out for - some of those commands may use HAL, or udev, or the other older hardware detection subsustems. so any guides on this with examples. Might be out of date, or not work in the future04:43
Dr_Willissomeone was asking this exact question earlier this week. I think he ended up using pmount.04:43
Dr_Willisalso with external ntfs or vfat. I THINK there might be some udev(?) rules that may mount them in difrernt ways by default according to some settings.  (like let all users access them and so forth)04:44
comptrollerHi everyone. I'm having an issues with the open source drivers.. whenever I try to load a game like Teeworlds or others, the game opens on both screens, stretched with a crazy wide resolution. any ideas?04:59
comodo_dragon!lts05:01
ubottuLTS means Long Term Support. LTS versions of Ubuntu will be supported for 3 years on the desktop, and 5 years on the server; with the exception of 12.04 (Precise Pangolin), which will be supported for 5 years on the desktop. The current LTS version of Ubuntu is !Precise (Precise Pangolin 12.04)05:01
Dr_Williscomptroller:  what video card?05:01
comodo_dragonwhy is 12.04 supported for 5 yeras?05:02
comodo_dragonyears*05:02
Dr_Williscomodo_dragon:  they did a exception for it and extended the support life05:02
comodo_dragonwhy?05:02
comptrollerATI HD 387005:02
Dr_Willisdue to all the big changed i guess they were planning for 13.x+05:02
comptrollerDr_Willis05:02
comodo_dragonhehe05:02
Dr_Williscomptroller:  dual monitor on nvidia (the only ones i use) require  the propiarty drivers to get apps to be able to fullscreen on just one monitor. If i dont use them. then many apps get confused and think i have a single very very wide monitor05:03
Dr_Williscomptroller:  you might want to check askubuntu.com - they may know of some work arounds05:04
comodo_dragonis it some masonic ritual?05:04
vijayaI have a problem while extracting rootstrap for scratchbox....I google it for so much time but couldn't find any solution....can anyone help??05:05
comptrolleryeah.. unfortunately my  video card is not supported...05:05
comptrollerthanks Dr_willis.. it sounds like I'm probably out of luck05:06
* Rakko returns05:13
* comodo_dragon hi05:14
RakkoI guess I still don't see how to use any of those command-line tools to automatically mount whatever's plugged in without me having to know the device names.05:15
RakkoAs I said, I'm 99% sure it was either udevil or udisks -- most probably udevil.05:15
comodo_dragonmade by the devil05:16
RakkoDr_Willis: so autofs is the very newest?05:17
Dr_WillisRakko:  no idea.05:17
RakkoDr_Willis: well you were saying that HAL and udev are older.05:17
Dr_Willisthe gvfs stuff is a feature of gnome. No idea how long autofs has been around. its most likely best in system cases05:17
Dr_Willisautofs might use hal. might use udev. I dont use it - so no idea on it more then just to say.. it exists. ;)05:18
RakkoI just found my answer! devmon --mount-all05:18
* comodo_dragon burps05:19
Rakkonight05:19
raubIs 01-mail-stack-delivery.conf an ubuntu-specific config file for dovecot?05:19
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reisioraub: can you pastebin it?05:24
reisioraub: it probably is, yes, likely based on the example .conf's dovecot comes with05:26
vijayaI have a problem while extracting rootstrap for scratchbox....I google it for so much time but couldn't find any solution....can anyone help??05:43
grahamsavagehi.. my internet connection has many different problems05:43
comodo_dragonhi05:43
grahamsavagethe major effect it has is that it causes chrome on ubuntu to crash and slow down.. i'm unable to diagnose the cause.  For example i can download stuff a 90kbs, but a website will take 2 minutes to load.  Sometimes after resetting my computer it will load quickly, sometimes not.05:44
grahamsavageare there any tools i can use to test the speed of dns queries web requests etc?05:44
grahamsavageand how to i tell the difference between  router issue / vpn issue / isp issue / ubuntu networking problem etc05:45
grahamsavageok dig responds quickly, wget loads relatively quickly05:48
grahamsavagegoogle chrome is ridiculously slow05:48
Rorygrahamsavage: if you go to "Network->Network proxy" (in Ubuntu not chrome) and set method to None does that help?05:48
grahamsavageRory: it's currently set to none05:49
Rorygrahamsavage: Also try disabling ipv6 if you don't use it, in "Network Manager->Edit Connections->Connection Name->Edit->IPv6 Settings->Method=ignore"05:49
maumhello05:49
Oddityhi05:49
reisiohi05:50
cfhowlettgreetings05:50
Rorygrahamsavage: is your "90kb/s" an example of fastness or slowness? it's all relative. For example I'd rather die than have that speed, but some would kill for it05:50
grahamsavageRory: ipv6 is already disabled05:50
maumwhen I typed "gcc -v" it returns 4.7 version but now I see 4.6 version . how can I fix this?05:50
grahamsavageRory: 90kbs is fast enough.. basically throughput is not the problem05:50
Rorymaum: "now I see" what do you mean?05:50
maumRory: it returns 4.6 version05:51
Rorymaum: You just said it returns 4.7?05:51
Rorymaum: What ubuntu version are you using?05:51
maumRory: 12.10 version05:51
Rory!info gcc quantal05:51
grahamsavageRory: it's the same in firefox as well. it just takes ages to start loading the page05:52
ubottugcc (source: gcc-defaults (1.117ubuntu2)): GNU C compiler. In component main, is optional. Version 4:4.7.2-1ubuntu2 (quantal), package size 5 kB, installed size 41 kB05:52
grahamsavagelike a minute05:52
Rorymaum: How did you install it?05:52
maumRory: I downloaded gcc 4.6 version and I typed sudo make install-gcc05:52
Rorygrahamsavage: Does this occur on any connection on your PC? Are you able to try a different connection by, say, taking a laptop somewhere else, or tethering your phone temporarily?05:52
Rorymaum: Then you need to run the version you install directly. It's probably  in /usr/local/bin/ whereas the actual supported ubuntu version is in /usr/bin05:53
RoryI might leave briefly because battery05:53
maumRory: how can I link it05:54
Rorymaum: if you type "which gcc" you will see the path to GCC05:54
ImQ009Hello05:54
reisio'lo ImQ00905:54
Rorymaum: First can you at least get the version you want working05:54
ImQ009I've found this guide to unbrick my UEFI after installing Ubuntu on it http://www.linlap.com/fujitsu_lifebook_ah532?&#comment_7ae19c0f23cda94b44c75f4284beda3005:54
ImQ009But I'm stuck at this line here "sudo dd if=FreeDOS-1.1-USB-Boot.img of=/dev/sdb"05:55
reisioif you can unbrick it, it was never bricked05:55
maumRory: it returns /usr/local/bin/gcc05:55
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reisioImQ009: stuck how?05:55
cfhowlettreisio, damn, THAT is an eternal quote!05:55
ImQ009The command doesn't do anything05:55
ImQ009It's supposed to flash FreeDOS on a pendrive05:55
maumRory: I want default version 4.7 2 maybe05:55
reisiocfhowlett: yeah makes your brain like, turn gears and... dude05:55
=== HisaoNakai_ is now known as HisaoNakai
cfhowlettImQ009, what version of ubuntu were you installing05:55
ImQ009It says it's finished it (33MB, instantly?)05:55
ImQ00913:0405:55
reisioImQ009: that's normal05:55
reisioImQ009: go to next step05:55
RoryImQ009: Seems about right05:55
ImQ009Well, the pendrive is empty05:55
reisioImQ009: according to what05:56
ImQ009According to system05:56
reisioImQ009: unplug it and plug it back in05:56
reisioit won't be empty anymore05:56
ImQ009It doesn't mount anymore05:56
reisionot much point in an OS constantly polling devices to see if users manually overwrote them :p05:56
maumRory: ?05:57
reisioImQ009: then just go to the next step05:57
ImQ009Alright05:57
Rorymaum: Where did you install version 4.7.2 ?05:57
ImQ009Just saying, a transfer speed of 413MB/s on a pendrive is kinda suspicious :P05:57
maumRory: Can I use default path /usr/bin instead of /usr/local/bin/gcc05:57
maumRory: 4.7.2 is the default veriosn for 12.1005:58
grahamsavageRory: it's a bit diffciult because it's my desktop05:58
grahamsavagebut yeah i suppose i coudl take it home05:58
k1l_ImQ009: is sdb you usb-device?05:58
Rorymaum: It isn't, according to Ubottu05:58
ImQ009Yes, in this case sdc05:58
Rory!info gcc quantal05:58
ubottugcc (source: gcc-defaults (1.117ubuntu2)): GNU C compiler. In component main, is optional. Version 4:4.7.2-1ubuntu2 (quantal), package size 5 kB, installed size 41 kB05:58
ImQ009sdc105:58
RoryOh sorry maum I misread05:58
reisioImQ009: what makes you think it was 413mb/s?05:58
ImQ009That's what dd says05:58
k1l_ImQ009: are you sure you did the right dd command?05:58
Rorymaum: Did you install gcc through the package manager (sudo apt-get install gcc)05:59
reisioImQ009: how big is the .img?05:59
k1l_ImQ009: things get cached05:59
ImQ00932.5MB05:59
maumRory: no, from source (4.6.3)05:59
RoryImQ009: Can you please put the result of your DD command on http://paste.ubuntu.com05:59
reisioImQ009: then you didn't transfer 413mb05:59
Rorymaum: If you want 4.7.2 why did you compile and install 4.6.3?05:59
reisiothis is the best way to sum it up: if you don't have a problem, you don't have a problem05:59
ImQ009reisio, I'm just quoting dd's output06:00
reisiowait for the problem before you fix it06:00
maumRory: for my compiler homework06:00
reisioImQ009: and I'm saying it's not suspicious :)06:00
Rorymaum: sudo apt-get install gcc06:00
maumRory: can i use different version?06:00
Rorymaum: what version do you need?06:00
maumRory: the default version for 12.1006:01
Rorymaum: sudo apt-get install gcc06:01
maumRory: ok06:01
Rorymaum: Assuming you're using 12.10 like you said (use "cat /etc/issue" to check)06:01
ImQ009reisio, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6203731/06:02
ImQ009Rory, ^06:02
Rorymaum: FYI you can install pretty much any 4.x version, look at "apt-cache search gcc-"06:02
ImQ009Ok, then06:03
RoryImQ009: Does it work though? The proof of the pudding is in the eating06:03
ImQ009I will try proceeding to next step then06:03
pero_phi, i want to ask is this possible to compile libraries like libfftw or other libraries compiled in i386 to different architectures? (like arm)06:03
maumRory: Do I have to re-install gcc-4.7.2?06:04
ImQ009Rory, No, it doesn't work06:04
Rorypero_p: Yes it is, take a look at this answer: http://askubuntu.com/questions/250696/cross-compile-for-arm06:04
ImQ009I'm supposed to mount it and copy some files06:04
ImQ009But it won't mount06:04
Rorymaum: No, and please stop installing things from outside the package manager if you dont know what you're doing06:04
reisiopero_p: that particularly lib is probably available precompiled, however06:04
reisiofor arm06:04
ImQ009It says that contents are unknown in the disk utility06:04
maumRory: I am in terminal06:05
pero_pthanks06:05
k1l_ImQ009: are you sure you need to dd the image into a partition and not the device?06:05
ImQ009When I tried sdc it said that medium hasn't been found06:05
Rorymaum: My understanding of your problem is: you want to install gcc. You have now done so.06:05
reisioImQ009: you sure the guide you're following assumes you're using Windows?06:05
Rorymaum: I don't see the problem, to be honest06:05
ImQ009reisio, Don't look at that :P06:05
ImQ009I'm doing that on my laptop06:05
vramanaCan somebody help me with grub recovery after windows installation.06:05
reisiohow're you trying to mount it?06:06
Rory!grub | vramana06:06
ubottuvramana: GRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub206:06
ImQ009I just put it in06:06
maumRory: gcc -v still returns 4.6 version but I want it returns 4.7 version06:06
ImQ009But I can't do anything with it06:06
ImQ009The option to mount it isn't there06:06
Rorymaum: did you do sudo apt-get install gcc?06:06
maumRory: yes06:06
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Rorymaum: What is the output of "/usr/bin/gcc -v"06:07
SoulRavenhello06:07
maumRory: 4.7.206:07
ImQ009Ok,06:07
SoulRaveni am try to delete all files older that 2 days, but is not working like this: find /opt/opengts/logs/*.log -mtime +206:07
ImQ009I reformatted the pendrive on my windows machine06:07
SoulRavenonly like this: find /opt/opengts/logs/*.log -mtime -206:07
ImQ009And tried again06:08
ImQ009Now it worked06:08
SoulRavenany ideea way?06:08
Rorymaum: and "which gcc" gives "/usr/local/bin/gcc" ?06:08
reisioImQ009: gj06:08
RoryCan anyone confirm for me that /usr/local/bin/ is NOT in Quantal's default $PATH ?06:08
maumRory: 4.6.306:08
Rorymaum: "which gcc" what does it say?06:08
ImQ009Alright06:09
ImQ009Thanks for assistance06:09
maumRory: /usr/local/bin/gcc06:09
Rorymaum: All I can suggest then is something like "sudo chmod -x /usr/local/bin/gcc"06:09
vramanaI have three OS installed on my computer Ubuntu 13.04, Windows 8 and Elementary 0S 0.2 in this order on my harddrive. When I did grub recovery after windows installation. Ubuntu grub doesn't show Elementary OS?? Can somebody help me??06:10
ImQ009Ok06:10
Roryvramana: Can you please run the command: "sudo update-grub" and put the result on http://paste.ubuntu.com06:10
ImQ009Now, I need to boot from that pendrive06:10
ImQ009But Ubuntu has overwritten the boot list06:10
ImQ009So, it doesn't show anything besides "ubuntu" there06:11
k1l_ImQ009: make sure your hardware is booting from the usb06:11
ImQ009:|06:11
maumRory: what is the command for? gcc -v returns 4.7.206:11
ImQ009k1l_, How? :P06:11
ImQ009I'm in UEFI boot menu right now06:11
vramanaRory: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6203774/06:11
ImQ009Which is overwritten by Ubuntu06:11
k1l_ImQ009: like setting that in the BIOS or pressing some key that is mentioned in the manual06:11
ImQ009k1l_, Read up06:12
comptrollerHi everyone. I'm having an issues with the open source drivers.. whenever I try to load a game like Teeworlds or others, the game opens on both screens, stretched with a crazy wide resolution. any ideas? Unfortunately I can't use proprietary drivers because I am using an ATI HD 3870 (unsupported by FGLRX), and I have an open AskUbuntu thread here: http://askubuntu.com/questions/354674/games-open-on-two-screens-with-open-source-dr06:12
comptrollerivers06:12
ImQ009The BIOS boot menu is overwritten by Ubuntu06:12
ImQ009So it doesn'06:12
maumRory: anyway, thank you.06:12
ImQ009So it doesn't show anything at all besides "ubuntu"06:12
vramanaRory: Elementary OS 0.2 is using Linux 3.10. in my system.06:12
maumI cannot install vmware tools for ubuntu 12.10.06:13
k1l_ImQ009: its about the hardware device to boot06:13
ImQ009k1l_, I'm confused06:14
ImQ009Because I don't know what to do06:14
lotuspsychjemorning to all06:15
ImQ009k1l_, It says, I'm supposed to boot from USB by going into the BIOS boot menu06:17
Rorymaum: One sec I'll explain it to you06:17
ImQ009So, I'm pressing f12, opening it up06:17
ImQ009Right? Now, I'm supposed to select my USB device06:17
ImQ009...which again, isn't shown on the list of bootable devices06:17
reisioImQ009: you can't override a bios or uefi boot menu06:18
reisiobut that doesn't mean your device will show up in it :)06:18
ImQ009reisio, Well, if it didn't override it I wouldn't have to reflash BIOS :/06:18
Rorymaum: When you run "gcc" rather than a full filename like "/usr/bin/gcc", Ubuntu looks in a few directories to see if the "gcc" program is there. You can run "echo $PATH" to see what these directories are for yourself06:18
reisioImQ009: you're confusing mbr or something with bios06:18
reisiowhich could be quite a mistake06:18
ImQ009reisio, But what does it have to do with MBR? :/06:19
Rorymaum: Because you installed 4.6 in /usr/local/bin and Ubuntu was looking there first, it was running that version, even though you had 4.7 installed in /usr/bin06:19
reisioImQ009: what is it you're trying to do again?06:19
ImQ009I'm trying to reflash the BIOS06:19
k1l_ImQ009: again: are you sure to dd the .img into a partition on that usb-stick and not ont the device directly? why dont you just choose the usb-drive in the startup menue?06:19
reisioImQ009: why?06:19
ImQ009reisio, Because Ubuntu messess EFI up on my device06:19
ImQ009And it's a known problem06:19
Rorymaum: The command I gave you just removed the executable permissions from /usr/local/bin/gcc so it'll just skip to the next one in the list, in this case the version you want. You can revert the change with "sudo chmod +x /usr/local/bin/gcc"06:19
reisiothat's hard to imagine, but if it's known :p06:19
ImQ009reisio, http://www.linlap.com/fujitsu_lifebook_ah53206:20
lotuspsychjeImQ009: ive installed ubuntu on a win8 uefi laptop the other day without changing anything, worked out of the box06:20
Roryvramana: Can you please pastebin the output of "sudo fdisk -l"06:20
ImQ009reisio, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/grub2/+bug/108241806:20
ubottuUbuntu bug 1082418 in grub2 (Ubuntu) "Ubuntu UEFI install locks out UEFI firmware (~bios) access" [Undecided,Expired]06:20
ImQ009Right there =====> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/grub2/+bug/108241806:20
barbarousrelicDoes the Ubuntu installer allow you to resize NTFS partitions?06:21
vramanaRory: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6203793/06:21
reisiobarbarousrelic: pretty sure06:22
lotuspsychje!info gparted | barbarousrelic06:23
rrmwhen will the next lts come out?06:23
Roryrrm: 14.0406:23
ubottubarbarousrelic: gparted (source: gparted): GNOME partition editor. In component main, is optional. Version 0.12.1-2 (raring), package size 531 kB, installed size 1840 kB06:23
Roryrrm: In April 2014, the clue is in the name (14.04)06:23
rrmRory: thank you, and supported for 5 years?06:23
Rory!lts | rrm not sure06:23
ubotturrm not sure: LTS means Long Term Support. LTS versions of Ubuntu will be supported for 3 years on the desktop, and 5 years on the server; with the exception of 12.04 (Precise Pangolin), which will be supported for 5 years on the desktop. The current LTS version of Ubuntu is !Precise (Precise Pangolin 12.04)06:23
k1l_rrm: yes06:24
Roryrrm: so yes on the server. 3 years on the desktop06:24
rrmi thought lts was 5 yrs desktop/server with 12.0406:24
k1l_Rory: rrm no. its 5 years for all now06:25
RoryWho runs Ubottu? I'm noticing more and more out of date factoids06:25
RoryConsidering I like to be quite smug with my use of ubottu, it's important the facts are correct :P06:26
lotuspsychjeRory: #ubuntu-ops06:26
k1l_Rory: if you find those please tell in #ubuntu-irc06:26
ImQ009Ok06:26
ImQ009I shorted out CL1 and CL2 pads06:26
kongthapi have an executable call "/user/local/netbeans" how can i create an icon on the desktop for this executable???06:26
ImQ009That fixed the boot menu06:26
lotuspsychjeRory: you can use the request trigger for factoids aswell06:26
lotuspsychjeRory: tryed a few in the past, or sugestions..but they never changed06:27
gordonjcpkongthap: you shouldn't do06:27
gordonjcpkongthap: that path makes no sense06:27
rrmk1l_: you mean only LTS, not the other releases?  since i thought that is 9 months from 18 as it was before06:27
k1l_rrm: you asked about LTS support :)  that is 5 years for server and desktop06:28
kongthapgordonjcp: it's default part when i install netbeans using root06:28
gordonjcpno it isn't06:28
vramanaRory I'll be back in a few moments06:28
RoryThe factoid is NOT incorrect, the exception is for 12.04. 10.04 and 14.04 are exactly as Ubottu describes06:28
kongthapgordonjcp: right now i can go to that directory and type ./netbeans, i can launch the app, but i don't know how to create an icon on the desktop06:29
rrmk1l_: thank you, that is great, no need to worry for a few years, my hardware will pass out before that06:29
lotuspsychjeRory: many factoid url's are bit outdated..06:29
gordonjcpkongthap: that path doesn't look right06:30
kongthapgordonjcp: which part looks right to you?06:30
gordonjcpkongthap: none of it06:30
gordonjcpkongthap: are you sure it's not something like /usr/local/bin/netbeans ?06:31
gordonjcpkongthap: either way, it shouldn't have /local/ in it06:31
kongthapgordonjcp: yeah, you are right, i missed "bin"06:32
maumRory: ok06:32
vramanaRory: I am back.06:32
kongthapgordonjcp: so how can i create an icon on the desktop???06:33
vramanaI am currently in running elementary OS live from usb.06:33
Roryvramana: Try this: "sudo add-apt-repository ppa:yannubuntu/boot-repair && sudo apt-get update"06:35
gordonjcpkongthap: doesn't it set one up when you install the package?06:35
Roryvramana: sudo apt-get install -y boot-repair && (boot-repair &)06:36
Roryvramana: Then click the "Recommended repair" button. When repair is finished, note the URL (paste.ubuntu.com/XXXXX) that appeared on a paper, then reboot and check if you recovered access to your OSs.06:36
kongthapgordonjcp: that's what i'm confusing, the install didn't create one for me, i've tried to search in dash too06:36
gordonjcpkongthap: how did you install it?06:37
kongthapgordonjcp: i used .sh download from oracle06:37
gordonjcpkongthap: if you built it from source and did "make install" which is what the /usr/local thing suggests, it probably won't work06:37
gordonjcpah, no chance06:37
* Paulus68_1 need a mod in #ubuntu server06:37
rrmthanks for the help, night06:38
kongthapgordonjcp: the installer installed both jdk and netbeans06:38
* Paulus68_1 someone is flooding there06:38
gordonjcpkongthap: why not just use the packaged versions?06:38
kongthapgordonjcp: i don't know much about this so i just downloaded one from oracle like when i did with windows platform06:38
Rootbrianthere is a tutorial on how to get java updated with the oracle tarballs.06:39
gordonjcpkongthap: yeah, don't do that06:39
kongthapgordonjcp: so in ubunto how you create an icon which link to an executable??06:40
gordonjcpkongthap: no idea, I've never done it06:40
Paulus68_1ikonia: you here06:40
kongthapgordonjcp: ok thanks anyway06:41
gordonjcpPaulus68_1: in the channel that has problems, type "!ops"06:41
k1l_paulus68: #ubuntu-ops is the op channel for the #ubuntu channels06:41
gordonjcpkongthap: it should just happen automatically when you install the app06:41
kongthapgordonjcp: i hope so, but it didn't06:41
reisiokongthap: right click somewhere, create launcher06:42
gordonjcpkongthap: you didn't install it properly06:42
gordonjcpkongthap: you need to use the proper packages, not some random thing downloaded off a dodgy website06:42
kongthapreisio: i did right click at desktop there wasn't any "create launcher"06:43
Caelumwhat was the nice thingie for building packages from source06:43
CaelumI used to use apt-get source, but there's a better way06:43
vramanaRory: Elementary is still missing http://paste.ubuntu.com/6203816/06:43
lotuspsychje!source | Caelum06:44
ubottuCaelum: You can easily fetch a package's source with apt-get. See: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/apt-howto/ch-sourcehandling.en.html06:44
Roryvramana: Are you sure it's even installed? You didn't accidentally overwrite it when you installed Ubuntu?06:44
vramanaRory: Elementary is present on /dev/sda3..06:44
Rorypre-empted :P06:44
kongthapreisio: i use "Main Menu" i can create a launcher, the launcher can launch the app but the icon of the launcher isn't right, any ideas please?06:44
k1l_vramana: that cant be. sda3 is an extended and cant contain data itself06:45
reisiokongthap: open it with a text editor06:45
reisiokongthap: there'll be a line (or you can add one) like Icon=path06:45
kongthapreisio: do you know where the icon path of netbeans ide???06:45
reisiokongthap: dpkg -L netbeans | egrep -i 'svg|png'06:46
Caelumlotuspsychje: no there was a nicer thingie for building source debs06:46
vramanaRory: I previously had Ubuntu and Elementary I then used gparted to shrink the Ubuntu partition. and then installed windows on the new partition.06:46
lotuspsychjeCaelum: a specifi package?06:47
aeon-ltdCaelum: describe more06:47
kongthapreisio: the command should display something, it display me nothing06:47
fabianvampirohi06:47
reisiokongthap: maybe that isn't the package name06:47
k1l_vramana: you dont have elementary installed. its just ubuntu/windows/swap on sda06:47
kongthapreisio: do i need to change the working directory before using that command06:47
helmut_hi06:48
fabianvampiroHow enable GUI of the network manager  in BackBox?06:48
lotuspsychje!info build-essential06:48
ubottubuild-essential (source: build-essential): Informational list of build-essential packages. In component main, is optional. Version 11.6ubuntu4 (raring), package size 5 kB, installed size 37 kB06:48
Rory!ot | fabianvampiro06:48
ubottufabianvampiro: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!06:48
vramanak1l_: I followed this while recovering grub http://www.lancelhoff.com/restore-grub2-after-installing-windows/06:49
CaelumI think it was pbuilder06:49
lotuspsychjeCaelum: maybe here? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingEasyHowTo06:49
linuhi all i have 5 mp usb camera with auto focus facility,i would like to check the zooming using v4l on my ubuntu pc, is there any commands or tools to check auto focus?06:49
Roryvramana: There's no elementary on your machine06:49
Roryvramana: I'm sorry to break it to you but... that's the case06:49
k1l_vramana: its not about grub. the blkid doesnt show and other partitions besides that 3 i mentioned06:49
lotuspsychjelinu: maybe cheese can do it?06:49
fabianvampiroanyone link or channel for BackBox? Please06:50
k1l_!alis | fabianvampiro06:50
ubottufabianvampiro: alis is a services bot that can help you find channels. Read "/msg alis help list" for help and ask any questions about it in #freenode. Example usage: /msg alis list #ubuntu* or /msg alis list *http*06:50
lotuspsychje!info pbuilder | Caelum06:50
ubottuCaelum: pbuilder (source: pbuilder): personal package builder for Debian packages. In component main, is extra. Version 0.213ubuntu1 (raring), package size 351 kB, installed size 988 kB06:50
fabianvampirothx06:50
Roryfabianvampiro: irc.autistici.org #backbox06:51
vramanaRory: k1l_ Thanks...06:51
RoryFailattu: I found that on their website, I'm not impressed you didn't bother to look yourself06:51
linulotuspsychje,no there is no options for zooming in cheese06:52
lotuspsychjelinu: ok not sure wich webcam software can do more..sorry06:53
vijayawhile untar showing errot like this.....Cannot open: File exists06:53
linulotuspsychje, it ok06:54
FailattuRory what?06:54
lotuspsychje!info camorama06:54
ubottucamorama (source: camorama): gnome utility to view and save images from a webcam. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.19-2.2ubuntu1 (raring), package size 167 kB, installed size 1150 kB06:54
lotuspsychjelinu: maybe this one?06:55
Rorylmao Failattu sorry not you06:55
RoryFailattu: tab fail06:55
RoryI just told off the wrong person06:55
Failattu:P06:55
Failattuyea np I was just thinking when the hell have I writen here I was not that drunk last weekend06:56
munnjwhen I try to run sudo I get sudo:/usr/lib/sudo/sudoers.so: no such file or directory and sudo: fatal error, unable to load plugins06:57
dudleyiThe file does not exist.06:57
Rorymunnj: What Ubuntu version are you using?06:57
aditya_wilee-nilee, hey u still there?06:57
munnjRory: uname -a gives me Linux 3.2.0-29 generic #46-Ubuntu06:58
munnjI get all kinds of wierd errors aswell.06:59
xmetallol eer get drunk and bootup your PC the next day to a distro you dont remember installing?06:59
xmetalever06:59
munnjerrors while loading shared libraries and so on06:59
aditya_xmetal, i dont drink that much06:59
Failattuxmetal: usually I just find virtual computers named according to spirtis and beer07:00
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Rorymunnj: When did this start happening? What is the output of "cat /etc/issue"07:01
munnjRory last week07:01
munnjRory: Ubuntu 12.04.1 LTS \n \107:01
Rorymunnj: I don't have that file on my system, did you do something weird to your system recently? Have you ever installed any software from outside the package manager or through a PPA?07:03
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skinuxIs there any bug in 13.04 that causes Ubuntu/filelight/baobob/etc to think it's low on disk space when it really isn't?07:04
munnjRory: I cannot answer that question, we are maintainers of this system. I can ask but I cannot expect an answer any time soon and this is somewhat important.07:04
jony_easyriderrecently I moved from 32 bit Ubuntu 12.04 to 64 bit 12.04. since then I got the following error when I try to mount a share specified in fstab: mount error(13): Permission denied07:04
Roryjony_easyrider: When you say "moved from" do you mean a completely clean install?07:05
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maumI cannot install vmware tools for ubuntu 12.10. someone can help me?07:06
Roryjony_easyrider: Can you please put the output from running the command: "sudo mount -a" on http://paste.ubuntu.com and put the resulting URL in channel?07:06
Rorymaum: http://partnerweb.vmware.com/GOSIG/Ubuntu_12_10.html#Tools07:06
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Rory!op | Index07:07
ubottuIndex: Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - elky, Madpilot, tritium, Nalioth, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, Myrtti, mneptok, Pici,  jpds,  gnomefreak, bazhang,  Flannel, ikonia, maco, h00k, IdleOne, bkerensa, nhandler, Jordan_U, DJones or k1l!07:07
xmetalthank you, Myrtti07:08
we2I am having trouble setting up remote logging on Ubuntu Server. https://gist.github.com/anonymous/686363207:08
maumRory: first of all, Do I have to download tar file?07:08
munnjRory: can it be a failing filesystem?07:08
we2both the server and client syslog-ng.conf file's relevant contents are in the gist07:09
Rorymaum: No you can go to the VM toolbar menu and select "Install VMWare tools" it will create a CD drive entry07:09
we2the server is not receiving the logs, local logging on the client is working fine07:09
maumRory: the menu returns the message [VMware Tools installation cannot be started manually while Easy Install is in progress]07:10
lotuspsychjesomeone knows what the 13.04 server setup step needs ip/port/username for?07:10
electron__is it okay to share home partitions b/w distributions ? ive got ubuntu and arch and am planning to keep a common home partition for both07:10
Roryelectron__: Yes but beware of configuration files07:10
we2lotuspsychje: for downloading updates during installation07:11
lotuspsychjewe2: can you tell me what to fill in there?07:11
Roryelectron__: You might be better off having a separate *data* partition just holding Music, Videos etc, and then creating symbolic links to their respective locations on both Arch and Ubuntu07:11
Roryelectron__: That's what I do \o/07:11
electron__Rory : im not sharing users just the partition07:11
electron__should be okay ?07:11
Roryelectron__: Configurations files are stored in your home directory07:12
electron__ahh ... okay07:12
lotuspsychjewe2: doesnt the server install, download updates automaticly?07:12
Roryelectron__: So you will probably run into issues. Not unfixable ones, but it'll be easier to do something similar to my setup above07:12
electron__Rory thanks ..07:13
xmetali agree07:13
xmetali have a seperate partition for those sorts of things that each OS can access07:13
xmetalif i upgrade OS oir change Distro ... those files stay where they are07:13
reisiothey could stay where they are regardless07:16
we2lotuspsychje: usually the IP address is asked during the network configuration part of the installation, if on your network the IP is assigned automatically i.e., by DHCP then it should be configured automatically07:16
we2lotuspsychje: if it is asking for an IP address then maybe you have static (manual) IP Addressing07:17
llutzlotuspsychje: ip/port/username sounds like proxy-configuration. do you really need one?07:17
lotuspsychjeluttz: it seems it cant skip that step?07:17
RoryI have 2 drives, one with distros, and one big mechanical one with all my actual files on it. I run this on a new distro: for i in $(ls -d /media/data/*/); do ln -s ${i%%/} ~/${i%%/}; done07:18
RoryOr someting along those lines anyway07:18
llutzlotuspsychje: sorry i don't know the server-installer. maybe go back one step and try again...07:19
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lotuspsychjellutz: me neither never seen that step before, im helping in query :p07:19
abachi I need help07:20
aeon-ltdabac: describe the problem in one line07:20
abacthanks07:20
xmetal!ask07:21
ubottuPlease don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience07:21
aeon-ltduhhh they left...?07:21
RoryThat happens just so, so often07:21
electron__Rory: how about keeping home in arch's root and symlinking entire user directorys to home partition in ubuntu07:24
Roryelectron__: That would work but not the entire directory07:26
Roryelectron__: Only the personal files07:26
electron__why not the entire directory ?07:26
Roryelectron__: Otherwise those pesky config files will be symlinked too07:26
Roryelectron__: for example /home/YourUsername/.config07:26
electron__hmm but okay07:26
RoryI'm not wrong07:26
electron__im just asking ..07:27
Calinou/home/YourUsername/ can be replaced with just ~07:27
electron__okay /home/user/.config is symlinked too07:27
dudleyiWhy do you feel the need to cycle between Arch and Ubuntu, in the first place?07:27
lotuspsychjellutz: seems to be a step according to scsi opendriver: http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/ubuntu-linux-set-iscsi-initiator/07:27
lotuspsychjellutz: but not sure how to do this..07:28
RoryCalinou: I know it can but not everyone does and I wanted to be clear07:28
we2I am having trouble setting up remote logging on Ubuntu Server. https://gist.github.com/anonymous/6863632. Both the server and client syslog-ng.conf file's relevant contents are in the gist. The server is not receiving the logs, local logging on the client is working fine. Help!07:28
llutzlotuspsychje: if one uses iscsi one shoul know how to configure it07:28
Rorydudleyi: That doesn't matter, it's what he wants to do07:28
electron__dudleyi : im transitioning to arch07:28
electron__slowly07:28
dudleyiWhy slowly?07:28
Rorydudleyi: For example, I use Arch for using, and Ubuntu for checking things for ppl in this channel07:28
Roryelectron__: The best way to do it is like a plaster, just do it all in one go and it hurts less07:29
jony_easyriderRory, yes, there was a completely reinstall. Only I copy/paste the line in fstab which refers to that network share07:29
electron__slowly because some things  i need to get it work quickly07:29
Roryjony_easyrider: OK feel free, but I'd still like to see the output from "sudo mount -a"07:29
jony_easyriderRory, it doesn't output anything07:29
Roryjony_easyrider: That means it worked07:30
electron__Rory: no o/p07:30
electron__oh .. okay07:30
Roryjony_easyrider: The problem is the directory you're trying to mount it to is not writeable by the user you're logged in as. I know this, because when you tried to mount it as root it worked, but as a normal user you get permission denied07:30
jony_easyriderRory, it doesn't mount the share07:30
Roryjony_easyrider: Can you show me your fstab?07:31
tapoutwhen you hook up your logitech webcam, where can you configure the capture size and what not?  I'm using KDE07:31
Rorytapout: Webcams are configured per-application07:31
electron__Rory : just need to understand somthing ... if an entire user is symlinked why is it a problem .. the common config files like under home ( /home.config) belong to their respective distro's partitions right ?07:31
reisiotapout: for kamera?07:32
Roryelectron__: Your config files are in /home/electron/07:32
jony_easyriderRory, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6203911/07:32
Roryelectron__: If you symlikn the entire /home directory or even /home/electron directory you will also be symlinking the config files07:32
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electron__Rory yes07:33
Roryelectron__: YOUR config files, not the system-wide ones. Look in ~/.config to see some examples07:33
Roryjony_easyrider: Which one isn' working?07:33
vramanaRory: I want to resize and move my partition But http://imgur.com/y9xauDs seems to locked (??) can you help??07:33
Roryvramana: Right-click the Swap, do disable swap07:33
electron__yes .. and those config files under the username /home/electron_arch (arch user) will be used only by arch right ?07:33
vramanaThanks07:34
Roryelectron__: Oh if the usernames are different you're good to go07:34
Roryelectron__: I was assuming the username was the same on both distros07:34
electron__ah .. okay .. thanks ..07:34
dudleyiRory: Why not run Arch, and VM ubuntu, for the sake of speed?07:35
Rorydudleyi: I have a soft spot for Ubuntu07:35
* dudleyi shrugs.07:35
electron__^ me too07:35
dudleyiI do too.07:36
dudleyiI poop out of that soft spot, though.07:36
* dudleyi shrugs.07:36
RoryI feel it deserves to be a first-class-citizen on my machine, even if I never use it07:36
dudleyiI dislike Ubuntu for a myriad of reason.07:37
dudleyiI applaud it's marketing, though.07:37
RoryI was going to correct your grammaer, but technically it makes sense both ways (I applaud [that] it is marketing)07:38
cjmacdudleyi: blasphemy!07:38
cjmacdudleyi: (I kid.)07:39
aeon-ltddudleyi: really? considering it's run by a millionaire, and most other distros run on donations and volunteers it's not that amazing07:39
k1l_hey guys: can we keep the offtopic out of the support channel? thanks07:39
jony_easyriderRory, the last three rows07:39
electron__dudley: sometimes i need to get some package running quick ; like the other day i needed heimdall to flash a phone .. on arch i had to would have to get it from AUR and compile ..07:39
dudleyiaeon-ltd: That's neither here, nor there.07:39
xmetali have the arch iso here (never tried it) but haven't loaded it in vm yet07:40
TripSecsudo apt-get install git, once i dl'd it how do i open it?07:54
reisioTripSec: git on its own is commandline only07:55
reisiothere are a number of GUI frontends, though07:55
JZAhi I load a liveUSB using xubuntu but doing a df -h  I only see 1.5G07:59
JZAwhy I cant get the full 4G?07:59
JZAthis is what I get on my df http://pastebin.mozilla.org/320989408:01
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jony_easyriderRory, can U help me, please?08:02
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JZAanyone?08:02
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llutzJZA: 1.5G is just the size of the writable overlay filesystem. /dev/sdd1 is your 4GB-usb08:10
Caelumwhen I run evince it opens something called "Document Viewer", is that evince?08:16
auronandaceCaelum: yes08:16
CaelumI see, thank you08:16
Caelumlooks nothing like the evince I remember08:17
auronandaceCaelum: perhaps you are remembering the gnome 2 days08:17
jony_easyriderrecently I moved from 32 bit Ubuntu 12.04 to 64 bit 12.04. since then I got the following error when I try to mount a share specified in fstab: mount error(13): Permission denied08:26
Roryjony_easyrider: the 32 to 64 bit thing is irrelevant and will confuse people trying to help you: if you need to ask again at any point I'd leave that information out.08:28
Roryjony_easyrider: Also I don't know how to fix your issue08:28
shomonhi is there a way to run chckdsk on a drive I borked due to battery running out very quickly08:29
llutzjony_easyrider: and the corresponding fstab-entry is what?08:29
shomonwithout having access to dos08:29
jony_easyriderllutz, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6203911/08:29
MonkeyDustshomon  try using non-dos ways to check the disk08:30
auronandaceshomon: chckdsk is windows, ask in ##windows08:30
reisiodos...08:30
shomonit says $MFTMirr does not match $MFT (record 0): Input/output error NTFS is either inconsistent or there is a hardware failure08:30
shomonbut it's just a partition of the same drive08:30
jony_easyriderllutz, I don't understand, I copy-pasted those last three line from my old fstab to my new fstab08:30
jony_easyriderllutz, and it won't work08:30
buujony_easyrider: Do you have a /root/ credentials file?08:30
MonkeyDustshomon  are you working in ubuntu?08:30
buujony_easyrider: Can you manually mount them?08:31
k1l_jony_easyrider: can you make a "mount- a" and show the errormessages in a pastebin?08:32
jony_easyriderbuu, yes, I have them in the /root/.cifscredentials08:32
jony_easyriderk1l_, it doesn't show anything08:32
buujony_easyrider: Are the things now mounted?08:33
Axlinshomon: fsck, if this is a Linux-formatted partition you're checking.08:33
buujony_easyrider: does dmesg say anything?08:33
k1l_jony_easyrider: do the mountpoints in /mnt/ exist?08:33
buujony_easyrider: If you manually run the commands do they work?08:33
comstoxcan i get permissions to see my home directory from the liveCD?08:34
jony_easyriderbuu, how can I manually mount those?08:34
reisiocomstox: just have to mount it08:35
buujony_easyrider: sudo mount -t cifs //... /mnt/... -o stuff08:36
NET||abuseHi folks, I installed cpufreqd and indicator-cpufreq-selector and i want to test if it's working, how can i verify it's actions?08:36
MonkeyDust!info indicator-cpufreq-selector08:37
ubottuPackage indicator-cpufreq-selector does not exist in raring08:37
shomonMonkeyDust, yes08:37
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shomonhow can I tell if it's softraid or fakeraid?08:38
MonkeyDustshomon  then use Axlin 's suggestion08:38
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MonkeyDustshomon  start from the beginning, what do you want to do, what have you tried and what goes wrong08:39
comstoxHey all, got stuck in a login loop where when I attempt to enter password it takes me back to the login screen, and at the same time Ctrl-ALT-F1-F6 don't take me to console mode, any suggestions?08:41
eeoshi everybody! I have a surreal problem: after last kernel upidate, when I click on the THIRD button of the mouse (the RIGHt button) the laptop goes to sleep. Any clue?08:41
reisiocomstox: could be X is failing08:42
reisiocomstox: could grep EE /var/log/Xorg*log from live OS08:42
dingseeos: no, but I'm guessing that is somewhat annoying =)  (sorry)08:42
eeosit is extremly annoying dings08:42
eeosdings: do you know where are the keybindings stored?08:43
dingseeos: my only suggestion is looking at xmodmap08:43
eeosdings: thanks08:44
Psil0Cybinhey guys when i take a look @ /etc/resolv.conf it says my DNS server is 127.0.0.1 is that normal? does that mean that DNS is working correctly? Ubuntu has its own DNS Server??08:44
llutzPsil0Cybin: yes, since a while they use dnsmasq as dns-cache on localhost08:46
Psil0Cybinllutz: does this update with new domain names / etc? should i leave it alone if my internet is fine08:46
Psil0Cybinspeed wise08:46
jony_easyrider/192.168.10.8/Documentation_Server /mnt/docsrv01_Documentation_Server cifs noauto,iocharset=utf8,uid=jony,gid=users,credentials=/root/.cifscredentials,file_mode=0775,dir_mode=0775 0 008:46
Psil0Cybinsorry dont know alot about dns.08:46
jony_easyriderbuu, pls help me to mount that manually08:47
llutzPsil0Cybin: if your internet is fine, just ignore it08:47
Psil0Cybincool but new sites and domain names shold work? How does that work does it update?08:47
Roryjony_easyrider: Can the user "jony" run the command: cat /root/.cifscredentials08:47
Psil0Cybinor grab it from a site if it does not recognize it?08:47
jony_easyriderRory, cat: /root/cifscredentials: Permission denied08:48
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Roryjony_easyrider: That's why. You need to put your credentials somewhere where the user jony can read it08:52
buujony_easyrider: sudo mount -t cifs //192.168.10.8/Documentation_Server /mnt/docsrv01_Documentation_Server -o noauto -o iocharset=utf8 -o uid=jony -o gid=users -o credentials=/root/.cifscredentials -o file_mode=077508:52
Roryjony_easyrider: Also08:52
buuI think there's a typo in there someplace08:52
Roryjony_easyrider: You didn't run the command I asked you to08:52
Roryjony_easyrider: Can the user "jony" run the command: cat /root/.cifscredentials08:52
buujony_easyrider: Did it work?08:55
jxjlhi is it possible to create virtual desktop in window with own cursor and run app inside it?09:05
Lackovirtualbox?09:06
jxjlno, just second xsession09:06
jxjlrunning in window instead of fullscreen09:07
Svetlanajxjl, https://help.ubuntu.com/13.10/ubuntu-help/shell-workspaces.html ? or have a second Os user and log in to that ?09:07
MonkeyDustjxjl  you can alos try to setup a chroot and run X with it09:07
MonkeyDustalso*09:07
Svetlanajxjl, tightvncserver can run in own window (it is a server of sorts itself)09:07
jxjlno I want just to start another xorg session in window (for example on kde desktop open new xfce session in window)09:08
llutz!info xserver-xephyr | jxjl this might help09:08
ubottujxjl this might help: xserver-xephyr (source: xorg-server): nested X server. In component universe, is optional. Version 2:1.13.3-0ubuntu6 (raring), package size 984 kB, installed size 2357 kB09:08
dingsjxjl: perhaps you could trick it with xnest in some way.09:09
ActionParsnipjxjl: what will you do one you get connected to the remote desktop?09:09
jxjlthanks, does it have its own cursor?09:09
LackoXnest -query hostname09:09
Roryjxjl: I'd recommend Virtualbox, honestly09:09
jxjlthank you for help, I'll try09:10
Psil0Cybinhey guys quick question09:11
lakmuzhello, how to install svn 1.8.3 on 13.04?09:12
Psil0Cybinim using gpg to encrypt a sentence i want to sent to my friend09:12
eeosdings: mmmm .... nothing, I do not seem to see anything using xmodmap09:12
eeosdings: I do not understand what is going on.09:12
Psil0Cybinwhere do i put his public key? in order to use gpg -aes username09:12
jxjlllutz: thank you very much, xephyr does exactly what I needed09:13
llutzjxjl: nice09:14
Lackohw do i ubntu09:15
eeossorry to bother again! I have a surreal problem an dI cannot find a solution on google or anywhere else: after last kernel update, when I click on the THIRD button of the mouse (the RIGHt button) the laptop goes to sleep. Any clue?09:17
MonkeyDustLacko  create a live cd or usb, boot ubuntu, learn how to use it09:17
llutzPsil0Cybin: "gpg --import usernames.keyfile"09:18
LackoIt's amazing how serious people are in this chatroom, I love it.09:18
Psil0Cybinllutz and how do i export my public keyfile to send to a friend from the Password GUI app in Ubuntu09:18
Psil0Cybinwhen i go to Passwords and Keys the GUI and go to my personal keys09:19
Psil0Cybinand right click my key and click export09:19
Psil0Cybinit gives it to me as a .asc09:19
Psil0Cybinso i dunno if im giving my private key or public :S09:19
llutzPsil0Cybin:  don't know the gui, it _should_ be the public09:19
gordonjcpPsil0Cybin: what exactly are you trying to do?09:20
Psil0Cybini wanna send encrypted messages with my cuzin for Google talk, so i made a private key for gpg to use gpg -aer username to send an ecrypted message09:20
Psil0Cybinso im assuming we need to exchange public keys09:20
Psil0Cybinso i can do gpg -aer hisusername09:20
Psil0Cybinand then type in the message09:20
Psil0Cybinand he would do09:21
Psil0Cybingpg-aer myusername09:21
FloodBot1Psil0Cybin: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.09:21
bazhangPsil0Cybin, use commas NOT enter09:21
llutzPsil0Cybin: "gpg --armor --output mykey.asc --export you@foo.bar"  or use keyserver to export/import keys09:23
arusselI'm writing a sh script that will be run as root. I want part of the script to be run as user foo, so I added a line: 'su foo' and was expecting the following line to be run as foo. But doing ech `whoami` returns root.09:26
arusselwhat am I doing wrong ?09:26
llutzarussel: su foo -c "commands run by foo here"09:27
arusselllutz: can't I have it for all following command ? I've got like 20 commands09:27
llutzarussel: put the 20 commands into bar.sh and use su foo -c bar.sh09:29
arusselllutz: makes sense, thanks for your help09:30
geirhaor prepend  sudo -u foo  to each command09:30
jackcould do sudo -u bla (cmd1 && cmd2...)09:34
jackbash allows bracketing :P09:34
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Oli``or wrap it up: su -c 'bash -c "thing; something else; blah blah"' user09:35
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eeosis there a  way of excluding the sleep / hibernate option on a laptop?09:37
yezariaely1an apt-get upgrade changed permissions of a socket file. Anyone knows how I could get to know which package was responsible?09:37
jackOli, yeah - ; is better than &&09:37
jackno conditionality :)09:37
Oliyezariaely1: if the socket if somehow included with a package (shouldn't be, that would be odd IMO) `dpkg -S /path/to/file` would tell you the package that owns the file.09:38
yezariaely1Oli: no path found matching pattern.09:39
OliOtherwise it's something included in a pre/post-inst script. I'd Google for it and you'll probably find the code responsible for doing the chmod.09:39
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OliOr it could be the application protecting its own socket for you09:40
yezariaely1Oli: it seems to be a broken script as the owner's name of the file is 4755 (which probably is a chown command instead of a chmod)09:40
yezariaely1thx09:40
munnjHow do I deal with this when running sudo? /usr/lib/sudo/sudoers.so no such file or directory09:41
llutzyezariaely1: grep -r 'path/to/socket' /var/lib/dpkg/info/              might give an idea09:42
gordonjcpmunnj: that's a very unusual error09:43
munnjgordonjcp: haha, ok.09:43
gordonjcpmunnj: can you think of anything that might have caused that to happen?09:43
buumunnj: How did you install sudo?09:43
munnjNope, I cannot think of anything. This is just a webbserver09:43
munnjsomething have snapped that's for sure09:43
Olimunnj: I assume you can't sudo things so you'd need to reboot into recovery mode (then remount root as writable: `mount -o remount,rw /`) and then I'd play around with reinstalling or dpkg-reconfigure sudo09:44
munnjyeah Oli. You're right I cannot use sudo. Hmm, wonder how I boot into recovery mode on a virtual server09:44
OliIt's a webserver and you've lost sudo? I'd be suspicious of a hacked system protecting itself from being wiped.09:45
munnjPerhaps, it's in russia so I wouldn't be suprised.09:45
munnjThere has been no deface what so ever.09:45
munnjYet :D09:45
Olimunnj: Not easily. Linode will give you virtual physical access but I don't know if other providers to.09:45
Olimunnj: Defacing is destructuve for everybody involved... If it's been hacked it'll be part of a botnet.09:46
munnjcan you once inside the system reboot into recovery without sudo?09:46
Olimunnj: no, it's a grub option09:46
yezariaely1llutz: thx.09:46
Olimunnj: As I say, this is all provider specific. It seems that many providers seem to have an option for rebooting into a recovery mode of some sort but I wouldn't know what to tell you to look for.09:48
amitprakashHi, apt-cache search bugzilla doesn't return the bugzilla package, this is on a ubuntu ec2 instance.. what source do I need to add for aptitude to recognize the package?09:49
munnjOli: I will look into it09:49
Oliamitprakash: bugzilla isn't packaged09:49
amitprakashOli, http://packages.ubuntu.com/lucid/bugzilla309:49
amitprakashthat seems to say it is09:49
OliFor lucid09:50
OliIn 200409:50
amitprakashoh okay09:50
ActionParsnip!info bugzilla309:50
ubottuPackage bugzilla3 does not exist in raring09:50
lakmuzhow to install libdb4.8 on ubuntu 13.04?09:50
ActionParsnip!info bugzilla3 quantal09:50
ubottuPackage bugzilla3 does not exist in quantal09:50
ActionParsnip!info bugzilla3 precise09:50
Olihttp://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=bugzilla09:50
ubottuPackage bugzilla3 does not exist in precise09:51
amitprakashfair enough09:51
ActionParsnip!find libdb raring09:51
ubottuFound: libdb++-dev, libdb-dev, libdb-java-dev, libdb-sql-dev, libdb5.1, libdb5.1++, libdb5.1++-dev, libdb5.1-dbg, libdb5.1-dev, libdb5.1-java (and 165 others) http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=libdb&searchon=names&suite=raring&section=all09:51
Paulus68_1how can I install ubuntu server 13.04 on a HP proliant ML310? I have problems with the on board iSCSI raid configuration09:51
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ActionParsniplakmuz: https://launchpad.net/~yacoin/+archive/yacoin?field.series_filter=raring   is that it?09:53
ActionParsnipPaulus68_1: http://h20566.www2.hp.com/portal/site/hpsc/public/psi/swdHome/?sp4ts.oid=3580656&ac.admitted=1381139612000.876444892.19948014309:54
ActionParsnipPaulus68_1: seems to have an Ubuntu driver09:54
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anon12Tasksel uninstalled unity and installed ubuntu studio (not as a new install, programs are still the same with exception of adding more and removing some), how do I undo this and return to the standard ubuntu (with unity) ?10:01
k1l_anon12: install ubuntu-desktop10:02
anon12sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop?10:03
k1l_yep10:03
anon12Will that mess up my current install?10:04
anon12like a new install does10:04
NeptuHej someone knows how to service mongodb stop so it will not be started on next restart on rc??10:04
k1l_a new install messes something up? o_O10:04
badcomHi all!10:04
anon12deletes old settings and programs10:05
badcomWhy would the following cron skip the 00:05 run but do all the others? 5,35 * * * * wget -O /dev/null http://xxx.xxxxx.xxx10:05
k1l_anon12: its a meta-package. it will not uninstall anything until its conflicts with packages that should be installed.10:05
Paulus68_1ActionParsnip: thx10:05
anon12the ubuntu studio package removed unity and thunderbird10:06
anon12I am going to restart and see if it works10:07
NET||abusehi folks, i've a usb3 dell monitor, and 2 calbes, one seems to work, but the other usb3 cable doesn't, both are the ones with the big square head on the monitor end with 2 sets of pins, bigger than the old usb2 heads you used to see on usb printers and things, the monitor has 4 usb ports and an sd card reader.. i put a mouse in to the monitor and it doesn't work with the second cable, but does with the10:12
NET||abusefirst..10:12
NET||abusethe output of the syslog for the usb plugin event of the monitor cable is here http://pastebin.com/SYBs1KQi10:12
NET||abuseis this just an incompatible cable or is it worth bringing the cable back to maplins and changing for a new one?10:13
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hubtrex2 unrelated questions: A) does reducing cd burning speed reduce risk of errors?  B) is it possible to install an app on an ubuntu machine that cannot be connected to the internet? (by bringing the packages with flash drive say?)10:17
k1l_yes and yes10:18
llutzhubtrex: A on cheap media, maybe B yes, you need to get the package and ALL dependencies10:18
k1l_packages.ubuntu.com for packages hubtrex10:18
hubtrexthank you. for B how do i go on installing the packages and the dependencies then?10:22
llutzhubtrex: sudo dpkg -i /wherever/the/debs/are/*.dpkg10:23
llutzhubtrex: sudo dpkg -i /wherever/the/debs/are/*.deb10:23
llutzsry10:23
TJ-!apt-offline | hubtrex10:23
TJ-hubtrex: Check out the apt-offline package10:24
hubtrexok thank you10:25
kyokushinHallo all10:25
* kyokushin wassup ?10:26
kyokushin!ping10:26
ubottupong!10:26
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Guest62080help10:34
cfhowlett!ask|Guest62080,10:35
ubottuGuest62080,: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience10:35
angsI use tar -xJF file.tar.xz but it says tar: Cannot use multi-volume compressed archives10:36
angsbut here it says this is the solution http://askubuntu.com/questions/92328/how-do-i-uncompress-a-tarball-that-uses-xz10:37
ActionParsnipangs: try installing unp and use taht10:37
angsok thanks10:37
Guest62080linode keeps blocking the ip10:37
llutzangs: tar -xJf foo.tar.xz   lowercase f10:37
Guest62080Get linode to unblock the ip10:37
ActionParsnipunp is easier :)10:37
ActionParsnipuse it for everything10:38
angsit works now thank you llutz as well :)10:38
Guest62080www.unitednuclear.org10:38
llutzuntil you'll find yourself on a system with only the core tools ActionParsnip :=)10:38
munnjhow can I tell I am in recovery mode if I only have access to a terminal?10:38
ActionParsnipllutz: oh yeah, thats given but unp is dead handy10:39
k1l_munnj: it logs into root account in recovery10:39
munnjk1l_ ok10:39
Guest62080I need more power10:39
Guest62080help10:39
llutzActionParsnip: agreed10:40
ActionParsnipGuest62080: can you expand the question please10:40
Guest62080ActionParsnip: Get linode to unblock the ip10:40
llutz!ot | Guest6208010:41
ubottuGuest62080: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!10:41
Guest62080I own linode10:41
ActionParsnipGuest62080: how is this Ubuntu related?10:41
Guest62080I want to download an ubuntu image from linode10:41
ActionParsnipGuest62080: then wget it or use a browser. This has nothing to do with power.10:41
munnjk1l_ I was thinking of running a fsck. However the disks are mounted so I shall proceed with a normal boot while in the recovery menu and then unmount them?10:42
TJ-Guest62080: Ask in the #linode channel on the OFTC IRC network, or open a Linode support ticket10:42
k1l_Guest62080: talk to the linode support.10:42
k1l_munnj: load a live-system with a cd or usb-stick. then run a check from that live system10:42
Guest62080OFTC banned the ip10:43
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TJ-Guest62080: That somehow doesn't surprise me. Open a Linode support ticket then.10:43
llutzwithout a reason of course10:43
k1l_Guest62080: then talk to oftc and to the linode support. but its offtopic in here. EOD10:43
ActionParsnipGuest62080: then contact them to get it lifted....10:43
joe18how do i install ubuntu on my nexus 7? the files the installer depends on are no longer where the wiki says they are10:43
Guest62080I delegate that duty to you10:44
Guest62080get it lifted10:44
k1l_joe18: talking about ubuntu-touch? or a desktop insatll?10:44
joe18k1l_: desktop install, i think10:44
k1l_!ot > Guest62080 had enough warnings10:44
ubottuGuest62080, please see my private message10:44
k1l_joe18: then ask in #ubuntu-arm please10:45
ingo__Hi! I am trying to get Google Play Movies working in saucy. Unfortunately the hal package is missing which is needed for the Adobe DRM. Is there a workaround?10:49
leeoooaa10:51
dings=)10:51
shahramkiaroustahi10:52
dingseeos: sorry, I don't have any suggestions.10:52
shahramkiarousta1123 hay salam kir mikhaee khoshgelehhhh10:55
calimero_82hi, my audio doesn't work, i ve ubuntu 12.0410:57
XkatdrInstall audio codec or vlc dude.10:58
shahramkiaroustahalana]pas kirno11:01
cfhowlett!english|shahramkiarousta,11:04
ubottushahramkiarousta,: The #ubuntu, #kubuntu and #xubuntu channels are English only. For a complete list of channels in other languages, please visit https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/ChannelList11:04
cfhowlett!details|calimero_82, no audio at all or just sometimes???11:05
ubottucalimero_82, no audio at all or just sometimes???: Please give us full details. For example: "I have a problem with ..., I'm running Ubuntu version .... When I try to do ..., I get the following output: ..., but I expected it to do ..."11:05
munnjWhen I try to run apt-get I get this error:  Could not find platform independent libraries <prefix> Could not find platform dependent libraries <exec_prefix> Consider setting $PYTHONHOME to <prefix>[:<exec_prefix>]11:05
Paddy_NI!dvd > Paddy_NI11:05
ubottuPaddy_NI, please see my private message11:05
munnjHow can I fix this?11:05
zhuyaxu?11:07
zhuyaxu有中国人吗11:07
Olimunnj: If this is the same computer as earlier, I'd be looking to extract all the data and start with a fresh install.11:08
Myrtti!cn | zhuyaxu11:08
ubottuzhuyaxu: 如欲獲得中文的協助,請輸入 /join #ubuntu-cn 或 /join #ubuntu-tw11:08
fetoegahi11:08
fetoegaIs it possible to run precise on haswell? it seems none of my 3 nics are supported by 12.04 kernel.11:08
Olifetoega: I believe it runs but you'll probably want the HWE kernels for graphics performance.11:09
Olihttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/LTSEnablementStack11:09
fetoegais there an updated netboot image with a more recent kernel that supports atheros 61** network cards?11:09
munnjOli: it is the same11:10
munnjam in the root console now i nthe recovery mode11:10
fetoega816*11:10
Paddy_NIHello I need to burn/convert and .MP4 video file to a DVD which can be played on a standard dvd player.  It's been so long since I have used DVDs and even longer since I have had to transcode to another video format that I have completely forgotten how11:11
Paddy_NI*an mp411:11
cfhowlettPaddy_NI, ffmpeg will transcode11:11
kostkonPaddy_NI, give devede a try11:12
kostkon!info devede11:12
ubottudevede (source: devede): simple application to create Video DVDs. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 3.23.0~ds1-1 (raring), package size 2077 kB, installed size 3893 kB11:12
munnjOli: you're saying the system is toast?11:12
Paddy_NIkostkon: Yeah I remember devede always took forever but I guess I am desperate11:13
Paddy_NIcfhowlett: I have never got the hang of ffpmpeg11:13
Paddy_NIffmpeg rather11:13
Olimunnj: Even if it hasn't been hacked, you're running into multiple corruption issues. I'm saying it'd probably be easier and safer to start afresh11:13
munnjI've never been so paralyzed with a root account before11:14
cfhowlettPaddy_NI, to transcode is quite easy.  ffmpeg -i inputvideo.mp4 outputvideo.avi11:14
cfhowlettor similar11:14
Paddy_NIcfhowlett: From experience it always results in a poorer quality file11:14
scott3hi11:14
Paddy_NIIn my experience that is11:15
Olifetoega: Are you running 12.04.3 (the latest download) or an earlier build? It seems that ships with 3.8 (the latest HWE stack) so I'm talking nonsense anyway.11:15
kostkonPaddy_NI, lossy to lossy obviously the video loses some quality11:15
Paddy_NIkostkon: I don't see how that is obvious11:16
Paddy_NIkostkon: Take a file as input and make it another file11:16
gordonjcpPaddy_NI: so, if you use lossy compression to recompress a file, why isn't it obvious that you'd lose quality?11:17
scott3My computer is broken so I need to copy my files. My home directory is encrypted, I dont have the recovery passphrase but I do have the password I normally login with. Will I be able to decrypt it?11:17
Paddy_NIgordonjcp: I am looking to convert MP4 to DVD11:17
Paddy_NINot avi11:17
andreiiarHello. I installed lubuntu on my pendrive but I have problems switching from pc to pc11:19
seriously_randomwould anyone mind looking at my xorg.log and telling me if radeon driver is using integrated or dedicated gpu?11:20
seriously_randomhttp://pastebin.com/F9FgVdTF11:20
scott3(scott3) My computer is broken so I need to copy my files. My home directory is encrypted, I dont have the recovery passphrase but I do have the password I normally login with. Will I be able to decrypt it?11:22
buuQuick, I need an alarm program!11:24
gulag2013scott3, I'm not the most qualified to answer your question, if you get yourself a a sata to usb adapter, you maybe able to login making the drive external on a different machine,11:25
llutzbuu: sleep 25m;beep11:25
buuI knew someone would say that.11:25
buullutz: sleep x; cat /dev/urandom > /dev/snd11:25
buuWould be more fun11:25
scott3thanks gulag. i was going to borrow someone elses pc and plug the hdd into the machine11:27
gordonjcpPaddy_NI: and?11:28
gordonjcpPaddy_NI: DVD compression is lossy11:28
gulag2013Good plan, as long as you can get in with your normal password, it should be good.11:28
Paddy_NIgordonjcp: Why would I need to compress it?11:28
gordonjcpPaddy_NI: you're making a DVD, right?11:28
Paddy_NIgordonjcp: The file is only a couple of hundred megabytes11:28
kostkonPaddy_NI, a dvd video disc is just a data dvd with the mpeg2 video and some extra files. mpeg2 is a lossy format11:28
Paddy_NIvob files are mp2?11:29
kostkonPaddy_NI, yes. encrypted mpeg211:29
ActionPa1snipPaddy_NI: could use devede to make a video dvd of video clip files11:29
gordonjcpPaddy_NI: so you need to compress it to MPEG211:29
buuTurns out the best one is named alarm-clock11:32
buuWho knew11:32
andreiiarI can't decide on one thing. I have a 16GB flash I want lubuntu on it. I installed it normaly but whenver I went to a new computer I had problems with booting it up. I formated the usb dongle and tryed to install it with universal usb installer but I can only make 4GB persistence space11:33
Authenticcould anyone PM me for some help with selfhosted server11:33
ActionPa1snipbuu: there is no single best, it may be bst to you though :)11:33
buuIT IS THE BEST11:33
buuI HAVE DECLARED IT11:33
ActionPa1snipAuthentic: server of what11:33
FloodBot1buu: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.11:33
ActionPa1snipbuu: funny :)11:33
Authenticweb11:33
Authenticapache11:33
ActionPa1snipAuthentic: install apache2 and you have a web serve11:33
ActionPa1snipr11:33
Authenticlol11:33
Authenticalready have apache211:34
ActionPa1snipAuthentic: why lol?11:34
ActionPa1snipAuthentic: then you have a webserver.   access it via:  http://localhost11:34
AuthenticI've tried apache 2, lampp, bitnami11:34
Authenticno one of them works11:34
ActionPa1snipAuthentic: can you access it via localhost11:34
Authenticthere are something seriously wrong the the filepermissions11:34
buuAuthentic: What errors are you seeing?11:35
buuAuthentic: How are you testing it?'11:35
ActionPa1snipAuthentic: you should see 'It Works!'11:35
Authenticeven I set this whole damn box on 777 ot won't let me do anything11:35
buuAuthentic: You aren't being specific11:35
TJ-Authentic: Read the log-files the daemon writes to, which will indicate the errors, then use that information to correct the problem.11:35
buuAuthentic: Tell us exactly what you've done, exactly what you expect and exactly what you see11:35
groundnuty_test11:36
groundnuty_hey, I have a account on debian server. is there a way I can install packages on my account withotu having root? I used to make it with configure -prefix=.... but its pain when updating/removing...11:36
ActionPa1snipgroundnuty_: debian isnt supported here11:36
groundnuty_ActionPa1snip: ok ubuntu then :)11:36
k1l_groundnuty_: ask the debian support how to handle that: #debian11:36
ActionPa1snipgroundnuty_: ask in #debian for debian support11:36
groundnuty_ActionPa1snip: question is more apt-get specyfic11:37
groundnuty_i think11:37
ActionPa1snipgroundnuty_: doesnt matter, its still debian so not supported here11:37
ActionPa1snipgroundnuty_: its that black and white11:37
k1l_groundnuty_: its not. debian and ubuntu do handle their root accounts in a  different way11:37
kostkongroundnuty_, different repos different versions of pacakges, we can't really help you11:37
calimero_82i've installed vlc but my audio doesn't work11:38
calimero_82what should i do?11:38
groundnuty_ok i will come here in 2 days and ask the same question with /ubuntu/ insted of debian...11:38
groundnuty_srsly, questions is not distro specyfic11:38
Authenticfirst of I had this web page. then I installed a security plugin with caused my whole wordpress site to crash. spent 2 weeks trying to manually restore the page copying all the content manually from mysql and installed wordpress from scratch, but it could not work. I couldt not upload, change read or write anything. re installed the entire computer and now I have tried with xampp, apache2 and bitnami11:38
ActionPa1snipgroundnuty_: but the channel is distro specific11:38
k1l_groundnuty_: m(11:38
k1l_groundnuty_: then ask in ##linux11:39
Authenticall of them giving me problems I have never seen before. there some bullshit about all the new updates11:39
Authenticnuting working anymore. I don't get it. been doing this for years. wtf11:39
groundnuty_but when I will as for help here using ubuntu word then I might get any insted of the wall: not our distro get out ;>11:39
groundnuty_kinda not nice11:39
fetoegawhere can i get a 12.4.3 netboot image?  the only ones i found on the page is 12.4.011:39
AuthenticI refuse to go over to windos.11:39
Authentichell no11:39
ActionPa1snipAuthentic: if you can give specifics we can advise, if you just say "it's broken" how can we possibly advise11:39
Authenticwindows*11:40
ActionPa1snipAuthentic: think about it11:40
ActionPa1snipAuthentic: then idle threats of Windows...what does that do?11:40
ActionPa1snipAuthentic: give details. We need details to help you11:40
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ActionPa1snipAuthentic: what have you done? What settings have you changed?11:40
ActionPa1snipAuthentic: stuff like taht rather tahn pathetic rants which achieve zero11:41
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linux_unix-10hello11:46
BluesKajHowdy all11:46
ActionPa1sniphi BluesKaj11:46
BluesKajhey ActionPa1snip11:46
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Bombohow do i install all dependencies of a .deb file? i did 'dpkg -i foo.deb' it complains about deps, when i do 'apt-get -f install' it just removes the package, it does not instal missing deps...11:53
gulag2013Install it using synaptic package manager,  just my guess.11:54
Paddy_NIgordonjcp: This is a nice explanation http://superuser.com/questions/299550/how-to-convert-any-video-to-dvd-vob-in-good-video-quality11:55
OliBombo: The repos will try to provide the dependencies automagically but if they can't, you'll need to provide debs for them too.11:55
Paddy_NIActionPa1snip: thanks for your suggestion too :-)11:58
BomboOli: hmm11:58
Bombotrying to install http://www.instantreality.org/downloads/ InstantReality-Ubuntu-12.04-x64-2.3.0.25322.deb on 12.1011:59
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marcushi all. as xmir seems to be dropped for 13.10, i would like to ask if there are any plans for 14.04 available yet?12:02
OliBombo: Yeah it seems to depend on fairly version specific packages (libboost-filesystem1.46.1 for one) which have been updated in newer Ubuntu versions.12:03
kostkon!info libboost-filesystem quantal12:04
ubottuPackage libboost-filesystem does not exist in quantal12:04
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OliYeah, everything else can be satisfied, it's just the dependencies on libboost packages. I'm not even sure if it's safe to install another version alongside (it'll probably conflict). You could install the 12.10 versions of libbost packages and try making dummy packages to satisfy the deps but again, no idea if that'll work.12:05
ActionPa1snipPaddy_NI: np bro12:05
Jet4Firehi all12:06
BomboOli: no idea how i could do that..12:06
OliWell for the first bit by installing the various packages you have available that it needs  libboost-program-options libboost-filesystem libboost-date-time libboost-regex libboost-python12:08
Bomboi could write a complaint into their forum ;)12:09
OliAnd then faking supplied dependencies with equivs: http://askubuntu.com/questions/29918/how-to-trick-apt-dependencies/29921#2992112:09
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ActionPa1snipOli: what is the output of:   cat /etc/issue12:09
OliBombo: That might work too12:09
OliActionPa1snip: You really mean me?12:10
ActionPa1snipOli: who has the issue needing libboost-program-options ?12:10
ActionPa1snipBombo: what is the output of:  cat /etc/issue12:11
ActionPa1snipOli: I got it ;)12:11
OliActionPa1snip: Bombo - there's an application that they're trying to install that needs a version specific package (ie the version is in the package name) but it isn't available for 12.10... It's all here in the last 20 or so lines.12:11
Bombo$ cat /etc/issue12:11
BomboUbuntu 12.10 \n \l12:11
adac#git12:12
ActionPa1snipmarcus: I'd ask in #ubuntu+112:13
ActionPa1snip!info libboost-date-time-dev12:13
ubottulibboost-date-time-dev (source: boost-defaults): set of date-time libraries based on generic programming concepts (default version). In component main, is optional. Version 1.49.0.1 (raring), package size 2 kB, installed size 26 kB12:13
babinlonstonthere are 20 machines in a local area network and all machines are installed with ubuntu 12.0412:16
babinlonstonnow i want to access the current users screen graphically how can i get connect and they too need to work at same time12:17
cfhowlettbabinlonston, might be a good query for #ubuntu-server ... or is it a LTSP administration issue?12:17
cfhowlett!ltsp12:17
ubottuLTSP is the Linux Terminal Server Project, which adds thin-client support to Linux servers. See chapter 3 of the !edubuntuhandbook, http://www.ltsp.org and/or http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux_Terminal_Server_Project12:17
ActionPa1snipbabinlonston: vnc can do that, is this to effectively spy on them?12:17
babinlonstonActionPa1snip: i dont want to spy if there is some issue on there pc i need to solve it from my desk its my need ...12:20
cfhowlettso ... "monitor" is the correct verb?12:20
ActionPa1snipbabinlonston: then id go for vnc12:21
babinlonstonActionPa1snip: what i need to do step by step for that12:21
xereufis lubuntu lxle ( http://lxle.net/ ) official?12:23
xereuflooks like it is... they use lubuntu logos and all that... no rebranding...12:23
k1l_lubuntu is official. dont know what lxle should be12:24
cfhowlettxereuf, no it's not an official distro ..12:24
xereufcan you get support for it here?12:24
k1l_"LXLE is simply a respun Lubuntu OS with different goals." so its a wall-lubuntu :)12:24
k1l_xereuf: see their website: http://lxle.net/forum/12:25
ActionPa1snipxereuf: yes Lubuntu is an officially supported release of ubuntu12:26
ActionPa1snipxereuf: not sure about lxle12:26
xereufso say i have lubuntu lxle i could get support here?12:26
DJonesxereuf: http://lxle.net/forum/#/discussion/52/finding-help-in-the-lxle-chatroom-12:26
jony_easyriderbuu, are U still here?12:26
cfhowlettxereuf, no no and no.   LUBUNTU is supported.  lxle is not.12:26
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ActionPa1snipxereuf: its not an officail canonical release, so no. But if you install Lubuntu you will :)12:27
xereufso they are allowed to use lubuntu logos and all that?12:27
cfhowlettxereuf, except they don't.12:27
xereufyes they do, run it and see12:28
cfhowlettxereuf, no need.  they are using the lxde destkop environment  which is NOT lubuntu.12:28
cfhowlett!lubuntu12:28
ubottulubuntu is Ubuntu with LXDE instead of !GNOME as desktop environment, which makes it extremely lightweight. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu - /join #lubuntu for lubuntu support.12:28
xereufthey use lubuntu logos NO DOUBT ABOUT THAT12:29
ActionPa1snipif you want light, install ubuntu minimal then install openbox and slim :)12:29
ActionPa1snipxereuf: you could contact the lubuntu team to let them know if you are concerned12:29
cfhowlettxereuf, anyway, offtopic it is.  if you want it, install it and best of luck.  if you want support, install lubuntu.12:29
xereufi want light and long life12:29
45PAAAQLLsaludos!12:30
cfhowlettxereuf, xubuntu and lubuntu would meet those requirements12:30
xereufalright, byeall, thanks12:30
TJ-babinlonston: See https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/ubuntu-help/sharing-desktop.html12:31
ActionPa1snipxereuf: Lubuntu 12.04 is not LTS (sadly) however Lubuntu 14.04 is LTS (once released)12:31
cfhowlettxereuf, best of luck12:31
sheepykins:D12:31
jony_easyriderRory, cat: /root/cifscredentials: Permission denied12:34
jony_easyriderwhy it's denied?12:34
jony_easyridercat: /root/cifscredentials: Permission denied12:34
jony_easyriderwhy?12:34
ActionPa1snipjony_easyrider: who is the owner and what access is on it?12:35
dariusc93_I have a question. Do anyone have issues with pulseaudio and alsa after installing libpulse0:i386 on ubuntu 13.10? I get a dummy output in the sound settings even after reinstalling alsa and pulseaudio, reloading modules. It only get fixed by me reinstalling ubuntu12:36
k1l_jony_easyrider: ls -al /root/cifscredentials12:36
ActionPa1snipdariusc93_: ask in #ubuntu+1 for Saucy support12:36
ActionPa1snipk1l_: may need sudo ;)12:37
Ben64on my system, /root is 700 so that would explain why a user can't get in there12:37
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ikonianothing thouls be in /root - as it's a locked account12:37
ikoniaso cifscredentials should not be in /root12:38
dariusc93_thanks ActionPa1snip will do12:38
ActionPa1snipits not bad to put stuff in there as root can mount things, so will have access12:40
xkernelis it possible to enable application minimizing when clicking on the icon in the launcher?12:45
k1l_xkernel: i dont know of something to enable that12:45
ActionPa1snipxkernel: what is the output of:   cat /etc/issue12:47
palsechello. since a few days the youtube sound on my 13.04 amd desktop and and 12.04 amd laptop do not work anymore. any hints, please?12:48
xkernelActionPa1snip, why?12:48
ActionPa1snipxkernel: because I may have a guide12:48
xkernelActionPa1snip, Ubuntu 13.04 \n \l12:48
ActionPa1snipxkernel: https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=minimizing+when+clicking+on+the+icon+in+the+launcher%3F&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a&gws_rd=cr&ei=Zq1SUragAcWY1AXiuYGYDw#q=minimizing+when+clicking+on+the+icon+in+the+launcher%3F&rls=org.mozilla:en-US%3Aofficial&safe=off    shows a few for 12.0412:48
ActionPa1snipxkernel: you've seen that, right?12:49
ActionPa1snipxkernel: only supports Precise (the PPA)12:49
xkernelActionPa1snip, i will check12:49
ActionPa1snipxkernel: you could contact Jonathan to see if he'll support Raring12:49
xkernelActionPa1snip, Ubuntu 13.10 is coming soon so no need to support the current one12:50
xkernelActionPa1snip, are you developer?12:53
swaagiewhen starting software-center it will die/crash within seconds erroring to https://gist.github.com/Swaagie/6867420 tried all commands/stuff to battle broken packages etc and reinstall as well12:53
kazak1377hey everybody. Please, help me, how to connect to mssql server from ubuntu. I need simple request sending tools... I've setup ODBC to connect via libreoffice base, but, when i selecting some table, libreoffice is crashes12:53
k1l_swaagie: start the softwarecenter from a terminal and copy the errors into a pastebinit12:53
swaagieerrr12:54
swaagiei just gisted those errors12:54
k1l_swaagie: ah sry. read that as an upcoming error :X12:54
swaagiek1l_: :) np was about to copy to pastebin as well :)12:54
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swaagieI'm working with gnome3 btw and gnome tweak tool also crashes @ TypeError: argument instance: Expected GObject.Object, but got PyCObject, the stack trace leading to it is different however12:56
TJ-swaagie: See bug #105006312:56
ubottubug 1050063 in gnome-games (Ubuntu Precise) "gnome-sudoku ERROR:root:Could not find any typelib for LaunchpadIntegration" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/105006312:56
kruxhttp://askubuntu.com/questions/291673/problems-with-ubuntu-software-system12:56
Ponch0Hello, does anyone know if theres any issues uninstalling older version of eclipse(3.8) and installing the newer version from their site? While having installed eclip-cdt and other tools??12:57
SammilFirst of all hello to all, secondly I am having an issue with Ubuntu 13.04, it installs correctly but after one or two reboots the GUI is refusing to start up. Trying to manually startx gives the 'no screens found' error and reconfiguring xserver-xorg doesn't seem to do anything at all.12:57
swaagiekrux: yeah already found/read that one, that didn't resolve aything12:58
swaagieonly thing I can think of is the accidental download + opening the 32bit dropbox pkg12:58
swaagiethat died pretty hard on me yesterday, as im on 64bit xD12:59
swaagiebut that might not even be related, checking the reference to gnome-sudoku atm12:59
ActionPa1snipSammil: what GPU do you use?13:02
SammilActionPa1snip: it's an amd 7970m13:02
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ActionPa1snipSammil: did you install the fglrx driver?13:03
SammilActionPa1snip: I think I did, please let me check for one moment.13:03
ActionPa1snipSammil: dpkg -l | grep fgl13:03
bwaynegreetings earth_creatures13:04
SammilActionPa1snip: No I haven't installed them yet. I shall install them right away. The strange thing I just notice though is if i reboot it then it works fine. Only when i do a cold boot it seems to occur13:06
ActionPa1snipSammil: do you also have an Nvidia or other graphics chip in the mix, or do you only use the ATI GPU in your CPU13:06
SammilI have an intel GPU as well in my CPU13:07
ActionPa1snipSammil: so if you run:   sudo lshw -C display     you have an Intel GPU and an ATI one?13:08
ddwolfhi there, I want to write a [.msg] file with java, How can I do that?13:09
SammilActionPa1snip: Yes, my 7970M and 3rd gen intel GPU13:09
luv_buntuhello13:10
ActionPa1snipSammil: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HybridGraphics13:10
ActionPa1snipSammil: disable one of the GPUs if you can13:10
luv_buntuhelp: can someone teach me creating a startup script?13:10
TJ-swaagie: I noticed you started software-center using "sudo". That isn't required. Have you tried starting it as a regular user? Does it hit the same issue?13:10
luv_buntui tried google, admittedly without success.13:10
ddwolfhi there, I want to write a [.msg] file with java, How can I do that?13:11
ActionPa1snipswaagie: use gksudo for GUI apps, not sudo13:11
ActionPa1snipddwolf: try asking in #java13:11
swaagieTJ-: yeah same error, equal stack13:11
ddwolfActionPa1snip thank u13:11
bwayneluv_buntu: hi. you're wanting to write a startup script. what are you trying to accomplish?13:11
luv_buntuhelp: can someone teach me creating a startup script?13:11
ddwolf.loin #java13:11
swaagieActionPa1snip: thanks for that tip13:12
ActionPa1snipddwolf: /join #java13:12
healhterhey guys, i hope someone can help me. I have a GIGABYTE T1028 netbook where I have swaped the hdd and installed lubuntu13.04 on it. Everything works just fine except that my #/' key and my lesser/greater key give the same keycode in xev13:12
luv_buntuhi bwayne,13:12
SammilActionPa1snip: I shall look at the pages. I just installed the driver and will see if with a cold boot up he still has the issue13:12
kazak1377Hey. Please, somebody suggest me an easy-to-use sqlquery sender via odbc13:12
ddwolfActionPa1snip: Gotcha~~13:12
luv_buntui need something to run on startup of my xubuntu.13:12
ActionPa1sniphealhter: is the OS fully updated?13:12
swaagieActionPa1snip: does gobble up the error though ;)13:12
TJ-swaagie: What does this report? "apt-cache policy launchpad-integration"13:13
luv_buntubwayne, 1st of all, how to create a script?13:13
ActionPa1snipluv_buntu: if you make a .desktop file and put it in ~/.config/autostart   you can run what you want :)13:13
healhteryes i downloaded the image yesterday and used the softwareupdater13:13
healhterit reports that everything is up to date13:13
swaagieTJ-: N: Unable to locate package launchpad-integration13:13
ActionPa1snipluv_buntu: you can even have it run a script and you can edit the script if you want to change it13:13
bwayneluv_buntu: you may not need to if that is your goal. ActionPa1snip has given you a way to autostart a program upon your login. Is this what you're trying to accomplish?13:13
ddwolfActionPa1snip: I cant join java with "you must be invited"13:14
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ActionPa1snipddwolf: you will need to be identified13:14
jony_easyriderActionPa1snip, how can I see the owner?13:14
ActionPa1snipjony_easyrider: owner of what?13:14
bwayneluv_buntu: it is poor irc netiquette to being a private chat unrequested. we can please resolve your issue in this channel. :)13:15
jony_easyridercat: /root/.cifscredentials: Permission denied13:15
jony_easyriderActionPa1snip, cat: /root/.cifscredentials: Permission denied13:15
healhterI searched google for more than a day now but all I got up to now is a bunch of ways to change the mapping of the keycode to the sign13:15
TJ-swaagie: Which ubuntu release is it?13:15
healhterbut the two keys report the same keycode already13:15
swaagieTJ-: 13.0413:16
swaagieafraid that the dpkg state is seriousy f-ed up13:16
healhteris there a way to downgrade it?13:16
bwayneluv_buntu: to script a script, first you must know a shell scripting language. it is then written as a plain text file and marked executable.13:17
healhteri would be perfectly happy with an year old ubuntu as long as i can use my keyboard^^13:17
TJ-swaagie: OK, that makes sense then. It doesn't exist in 13.04. Was that system release-upgraded from 12.10 ?13:17
SammilActionPa1snip: I will have a look later on at the hybrid page you sended me. Atm I can 'correct' the issue by rebooting after a cold start up. Thanks for the help13:17
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swaagieTJ-: no fresh install, but had a major fuckup going from gnome3.8 to 3.10 that really didn't work out well, did a lot of reverting but somehow the state is not quite ok13:18
swaagieeven though all default actions to fix the state show up with no listed problem13:18
swaagies*13:18
healhterdoes anyone has an idea how I could get my keyboard working properly?13:19
mgedminhealhter, same keycode?  interesting13:21
mgedminhealhter, what keycode is that?13:21
MonkeyDust!details | healhter13:22
ubottuhealhter: Please give us full details. For example: "I have a problem with ..., I'm running Ubuntu version .... When I try to do ..., I get the following output: ..., but I expected it to do ..."13:22
SammilActionPa1snip: seems false alarm,after logging no icons are visible only the background.13:22
swaagieTJ-: like this one, gir1.2-epiphany-3.6 : Depends: epiphany-browser (= 3.6.1-2ubuntu1), could only get this fixed after manually purging and reinstalling the epiphany browser, that unmet dep doens't show up until I do a direct purge/remove of gir1.2-epiphany-3.613:22
mgedminhealhter, next, can you run 'xkbcomp :0 - | grep 51' (assuming the keycode is 51)13:22
TJ-swaagie: 13.04 has gnome-core 3.4 ... did you install 3.8/3.10 from an unofficial repository, or via self-built packages?13:22
healhterits keycode 5113:23
Dar1usHi, I have 12.04 and installed a 3.2 kernel because parallels extensions don;t build on newere ones. How do I get grub to default to the older kernel?13:23
mgedminhealhter, this will show you how the X server is mapping hardware keys to keycodes13:23
mgedmincool, I guessed right :)13:23
healhter <BKSL> = 51;13:24
healhter    <I151> = 151;13:24
healhter    <I251> = 251;13:24
healhter    key <I151> {         [      XF86WakeUp ] };13:24
healhter        width=     351;13:24
FloodBot1healhter: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.13:24
cracchina84ciau13:24
swaagieTJ-: 3.4? I used ppa:ricotz/testing to get 3.10, installed 3.8 from the default repo's13:24
healhterdid it work?13:25
healhterdid you got my reply?13:25
mgedminhealhter, maybe? dunno?  you got temporarily muted for flooding, please use a pastebin (e.g. paste.ubuntu.com) next time13:25
mgedminactually, just paste the output again, into the pastebin, so we can be sure we got the entire13:26
swaagiethat ricotz ppa in combination with ppa:gnome3-team/staging btw13:26
mgedminwait, make it |grep -w 5113:26
healhterhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/6204910/13:26
healhterlike this?13:26
mgedminso irrelevant lines like '151' won't clutter it13:26
mgedminah, ok, the output was complete13:26
mgedminand only one hardware key is mapped to keycode 5113:26
healhterhow do i use paste.ubuntu.com?13:26
mgedminand yet you say xev shows two keys emitting the same?13:26
healhteryeah13:26
mgedminhealhter, you did fine with the pastebin13:27
* mgedmin scratches head13:27
healhteryeah thats how i feel13:27
swaagieTJ-: dunno if normal, but if I try to install gnome-core it will actually present 28 new packages to install13:27
Dar1usn/m finally worked it out13:27
healhterat least im not alone^^ i guess13:27
TJ-swaagie: http://packages.ubuntu.com/raring/gnome   ... shows v3.4. Some gnome apps have the v3.8 marker though.13:27
healhtermgedmin is there anyway to get a log of the events _before_ there are keycodes?13:28
mgedminhealhter, can any other OSes distinguish the two keys?  e.g. windows, or an older Ubuntu version?13:28
bwaynehealhter: you will probably want to file a bug report. If that turns out to be the case, use these instructions --> 1) https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingKeyboardDetection 2) https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Hotkeys/Troubleshooting ; #2 may turn out to be useful for getting a working setup.13:28
healhteri have tried is with Mint15 and Lubuntu 12.0413:28
mgedminhealhter, yes; you can switch to a text console (ctrl+al+f1), log in, then use showkey -s to see the raw scan codes (wait 10 seconds without hitting any keys to make showkey quit)13:29
healhterboth have the same problems13:29
mgedminif the _scan_ kodes are different, then it's kernel's fault for mapping them both to the same key code13:29
mgedminand you can probably override the mapping table using setkeycodes13:29
mgedminif the scan codes are the same, then it's hardwares fault13:29
mgedmin(maybe you can find an option in the BIOS setup to convince the hardware to act differently?)13:30
mgedminoh, showkey needs root13:30
jony_easyridercat: /root/.cifscredentials: Permission denied - PLEASE HELP :(13:30
mgedminso sudo showkey -s13:30
Picijony_easyrider: what are you trying to do?13:31
swaagieTJ-: apt-cache showpkg does list core as 1:3.4+7ubuntu4 (/var/lib/apt/lists/nl.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_raring_universe_binary-amd64_Packages)13:31
healhterokay thats interesting:13:31
Guest15606Hello?13:31
bwaynejony_easyrider: if I understand your issue, you apparently need to escalate your priviledges using sudo.13:31
swaagiei'll try to install those packages, that shouldn't hurt13:31
jony_easyriderrecently I moved from 32 bit Ubuntu 12.04 to 64 bit 12.04. since then I got the following error when I try to mount a share specified in fstab: mount error(13): Permission denied13:31
jony_easyriderit started like this13:31
healhterhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/6204926/13:32
jony_easyriderthen I realized that: cat: /root/.cifscredentials: Permission denied13:32
swaagiethe install also removes some weird python applet13:32
healhtermgedmin: no it didnt13:32
healhterhowever i get two codes for those keys13:32
CatKillerjony_easyrider: And "sudo cat /root/.cifscredentials"?13:32
healhternot one like everything else13:32
swaagiealas still broken13:32
BluesKajWB , cfhowlett13:32
mgedminhealhter, I think that 0x9c might be the release of Enter13:33
mgedminhealhter, usually when you release a key you get the scan code with 0x80 bit set13:33
mgedminand I think 0x1c might be Enter13:33
mgedminthat would mean the two keys are actually the same: 0x2b 0xab13:33
elliott__Hello, i was wondering if anybody could help me connect my xbox to xbox live using my pc?13:33
mgedminyeah, 0xab == 0x2b | 0x80, so it's just press and release of key 0x2b13:34
mgedminblame the hardware13:34
mgedmin(or firmware)13:34
healhterokay so my keys produce the same signal?13:34
healhtersolution is either in BIOS or where?13:34
isaac__hello13:35
mgedminhealhter, right; the hardware doesn't distinguish the key13:35
healhterwell its a start^^ although i dont look forward to try to get another bios on it via linux^^13:36
healhterthanks anyways13:36
mgedminmaybe the firmware can reprogram the hardware to make it distinguish the keys, or maybe it's totally hardcoded with no recourse13:36
mgedmincan you try Windows?  can it distinguish these keys?  if not, I'd say all hope is lost13:36
mgedminif yes, then it's going to be an interesting exercise in debugging/reverse engineering13:36
mgedminway above my competence level13:37
healhterwell mine too, but i will try to use windows first13:37
swaagieso meh I just resorted to reinstalling every package13:45
swaagiehopefully that will fix some of the hidden broken deps13:45
swaagieTJ-: thx for your help will let you know if ^ resolves it13:47
TJ-mgedmin: If "healhter" returns, point to the device's manual. In that, in the BIOS section, it shows it is possible to select the keyboard language. That infers to me that key-codes could change depending on selection.13:47
TJ-swaagie: Good luck :)13:47
Ponch0Hey guys is there a way to safely remove older version of eclipse and install a newer version?13:48
cfhowlettPonch0, sudo apt-get purge eclipse and sudo apt-get install eclipse.  OR you can compile the latest ...13:49
grygHello, is there any alternative for thunderbird that supports TNEF attachements?13:49
Ponch0that's what i'd like to do but i've been reading nightmare stories13:49
BeastHi. Has anyone had issues system freezes while playing .flv in fullscreen? Had that last night on saucy and prior to upgrading. Might this be due to bad flash support for Firefox?13:50
PiciBeast: Please use #ubuntu+1 for Saucy support, thanks :)13:50
Ponch0cfhowlett: so 'sudo apt-get purge eclipse' should be enough to compile the latest?13:51
cfhowlettPonch0, no that will only remove the current version.13:51
cfhowlettPonch0, I'd suggest you consider just staying with the verion in the repos unless you REALLY have a crying need for the latest/greatest shiny thing ...13:52
Ponch0well I personally don't care but it's buggy as hell hehe13:52
Beastwell I didn't just experience this on saucy13:52
cfhowlettPonch0, have you updated your system lately?13:52
Ponch0yeah I pretty much update everyday.13:53
cfhowlettPonch0, dist-upgrade?13:54
Ponch0yes-sir :)13:54
cfhowlett!info eclipse13:55
ubottueclipse (source: eclipse): Extensible Tool Platform and Java IDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.8.1-1ubuntu1 (raring), package size 16 kB, installed size 121 kB13:55
cfhowlettPonch0, other than what I've already stated, I don't know what to advise you ...13:55
Ponch0It's ok thanks so much, i'll keep reading through some posts.13:56
arllythenks13:57
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palsecsince a few days the youtube sound on my 13.04 amd desktop and and 12.04 amd laptop do not work anymore. any hints, please?14:00
oo_miguelCan I somehow make a wpa2-psk connection for the ubuntu installation14:00
oo_miguelthe wlan card seems to be identified, BUT i can only choose wpa-psk...14:01
ActionPa1snipoo_miguel: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WPAHowTo14:02
ActionPa1snippalsec: try:   killall pulseaudio; rm -r ~/.config/pulse*    wait 10 seconds and reboot14:02
ActionPa1snipoo_miguel: your chip may not support that encryption under Linux14:03
TJ-oo_miguel: Availability of WPA versions can depend upon the chip-set in the WiFi device.14:03
ice9is the stock kernel that is shipped with ubuntu compiled for multi core support? how many??14:04
ActionPa1snipice9: server or desktop kernel?14:04
module000ice9: 1) yes 2) more than is currently manufacturered on any known cpu14:04
ice9ActionPa1snip, both14:04
ActionPa1snipice9: http://askubuntu.com/questions/158555/how-many-maximum-cpus-does-ubuntu-support-by-default14:05
ActionPa1snipice9: 8 cores desktop and 256 cores server14:05
oo_miguelActionPa1snip: TJ- : thank you14:05
ice9ActionPa1snip, isn't it bad idea to support more cores than target system?14:05
module000ice9: if you want to get really funky, you can tweak i tto 4096 last i checked as well - but 512 is the "sane" limit mentioned in the kernel sources14:05
freeroutehi everyone, I think Midori is taking up 100% of resources on my machine. I managed to (finally) get to tty1, but the login seems to be timing out (Login timed out after 60 seconds). Is there any way I can still login or kill Midori?14:06
ActionPa1snipice9: why? The kernel is the same in multiple systems, so support is needed. Windows supports lots of cores too14:06
ActionPa1snipice9: how could it possible be a bad thing?14:06
ice9ActionPa1snip, if you read the linux kernel compile guide it say that if you have dual core cpu then the multi core support number you should pass to the compiler is not more than 3 or it will act veryyy slow14:07
ActionPa1snipice9: are you seeing slowness?14:07
ActionPa1snipice9: i have had Ubuntu on anything from 1 to 32 cores and seen now slowness14:08
ice9ActionPa1snip, i haven't compared it with other builds so i can't tell14:08
module000ice9: that guide is from the perspective of *compiling* performance AFAIK, not the performance of the compiled binary you will produce14:08
ice9i see14:08
Guest____wrong place to ask but its active, anyone here good with web crawlers/spider and could possibly point me in the direction of a good tutorial14:09
Guest____sorry bout nickname14:09
MasterOfDisasterGuest____: definitly wrong place to ask. Query me...14:10
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eduhatI am trying to figure out the end of life for a couple ubuntu distributions. I found the page for the EOL support. For 11.10 it shows ~March of this year. Would this mean it is past EOL?14:26
ActionParsnipeduhat: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases14:27
cfhowletteduhat, very much so.14:27
eduhatok14:27
eduhatthanks guys14:27
cfhowletteduhat, 12.04 is Long Term Support14:27
cfhowlett!lts14:27
ubottuLTS means Long Term Support. LTS versions of Ubuntu will be supported for 3 years on the desktop, and 5 years on the server; with the exception of 12.04 (Precise Pangolin), which will be supported for 5 years on the desktop. The current LTS version of Ubuntu is !Precise (Precise Pangolin 12.04)14:27
eduhatI know about LTS. I just have to create a report about various ubuntu distro's we provide and wasn't sure how to read the graph. I like the link ActionParsnip provided a lot better.14:28
crunchiechocIs it me or is Ubuntu a bit bloated?14:30
TJ-crunchiechoc: It's you... too much starch in your diet :)14:31
cfhowlettcrunchiechoc, it's you.  ease off the cheezy puffs and do more aerobics14:31
crunchiechocI don't eat cheesy puffs, but thanks for the tip.14:32
ActionParsnipcrunchiechoc: Lubuntu is light and airy14:34
crunchiechocYeah, I ran it in my VM. Seems nice.14:34
crunchiechocHonestly I love the Ubuntu interface. By far the best. I think I settled on CrunchBang though.14:35
bellthis is the first i using my irc client14:35
ActionParsnipcrunchiechoc: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6205156/   3.3Gb for system, not bloated at all :)14:35
crunchiechocNice.14:35
ActionParsnipcrunchiechoc: crunchbang support community is a lot smaller than Ubuntu's14:35
crunchiechocNo doubt, Ubuntu has the most support.14:36
crunchiechocChoosing a Linux distro is so difficult ;(14:36
ActionParsnipcrunchiechoc: as well as Redhat14:36
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repudiateHey, is there anyway to make my windows snap to the edges the way they do in Windows when you drag them off the screen?14:37
GreatBaconcrunchie, what are you looking to do with the new Linux distro?14:37
repudiateIs there any equivalent of the "Aero Snap" feature in Ubuntu?14:38
repudiateIf so, how do I enable it?14:38
Terracotta_Hello! I'm running Ubuntu 12.04 and I'm having a little bit of trouble setting up a HP Laserjet P1102w as a wireless printer14:38
ActionParsniprepudiate: its the grid plugin in ccsm14:39
ActionParsniprepudiate: yes its in compiz14:39
repudiateI have no idea what that means?14:39
crunchiechocGreatBacon: I want a distro that I can install on my desktop that will allow me to edit files, play music and video, use SSH and FTP, browse the internet, and protect my privacy.14:39
repudiateCan you help me?14:39
ActionParsniprepudiate: nobody is born knowing14:40
repudiateActionParsnip: Is it complicated to set up?14:40
ActionParsniprepudiate: run:  ccsm   in a terminal14:40
GreatBaconCrunchie,  Ubuntu is great for that purpose14:40
ActionParsniprepudiate: its a tick box.....so depends if ticking a box is complicated.14:40
xlysHi! Is there a way to disable autorecreation of the "Music", "Desktop", "Videos" etc. folders in the home folder? I don't know what recreates it, if it's nautilus or gdm or some such. Thanks!14:40
repudiateThe program 'ccsm' is currently not installed.  You can install it by typing:14:40
repudiatesudo apt-get install compizconfig-settings-manager14:40
ActionParsnipcrunchiechoc: any linux distro can do that, thats a default set of features14:40
ActionParsniprepudiate: so, guess what the next step is..?14:41
repudiateHa, I'm doing it.14:41
ActionParsniprepudiate: instead of blindly copying outputs to paste here, try reading what is output and think14:41
repudiateThat was just my way of telling you that I got it.14:41
ActionParsniprepudiate: i dont need it, you do14:41
crunchiechocActionParsnip: I know :( that's what makes my hunt so difficult. They all seem great.14:41
repudiateOk, so it seems done ActionParsnip14:42
repudiateNow what?14:42
ActionParsniprepudiate: rerun the command you ran first time....again, think14:42
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crunchiechocI mean, centos won't be my primary choice (although I prefer centos for servers)14:42
ActionParsnipcrunchiechoc: im using a lot of puppy these days, and xpud14:42
crunchiechocDo you think Arch can score me cool points?14:42
ActionParsnipcrunchiechoc: go to gentoo for cool points :)14:43
repudiateActionParsnip: Now I have the settings manager14:43
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mn3na3ahow to change the default file manager?14:44
ActionParsniprepudiate: ok, enable the plugin i named earlier14:44
repudiateActionParsnip: It's enabled, but it doesn't work. Does it require a restart?14:45
ActionParsniprepudiate: the plugins enable on the fly14:46
eduhatFor 12.04 it doesnt show an End of life date.14:46
ActionParsnipeduhat: April 201714:47
cfhowlett!perfect14:47
eduhatThanks14:47
repudiateLet me try closing this first14:47
ActionParsnipeduhat: 5 yars support starting April (4)th month, in 20(12)14:47
repudiateYeah, the plugin was enabled by default14:47
ActionParsniprepudiate: you could increase the threshold on the side of the screen.14:48
Milos_SDhello ... Xubuntu or Lubuntu on old  PC with some Pentium 4 like AMD CPU, 1GB RAM and ATI 925014:48
Milos_SD?14:48
crunchiechocWhat is one thing only Ubuntu has that most other distorts don't?14:48
crunchiechocLubuntu14:48
crunchiechocIt's lighter.14:48
crunchiechocDistros*14:49
cfhowlettMilos_SD, either .  install one and then install the other desktop to test.  for instance sudo apt-get install lxde will show you the lxde14:49
ActionParsnipcrunchiechoc: big support is one thing14:49
Milos_SDcfhowlett, I know that :D One other question ... is the installer the same on xubuntu, lubuntu and ubuntu CDs?14:50
ActionParsnipcrunchiechoc: lots of distros use LXDE....14:50
cfhowlettMilos_SD, functionally, yues14:50
cfhowlettyes14:50
ActionParsnipMilos_SD: I'd go Xubuntu 12.0414:50
repudiateUgh14:50
cfhowlettMilos_SD, ^^^ that14:50
cfhowlettMilos_SD, xubuntu is arguably the more mature flavor and is also the base of UbuntuStudio.14:51
repudiateActionParsnip: Does the fact that I'm using a VBox have anything to do with this not working?14:52
crunchiechocActionParsnip: That's true. I was considering installing ArchBang, but their forums are dead, and before the last build, there was like a 2 year gap.14:52
repudiateLet me restart, be right back14:53
scristianI install again munin-node and is not adding configuration file, I remove /etc/munin before14:53
cfhowlettrepudiate, entirely possible14:53
TJ-xlys: To disable (or modify) creation and naming of folders when a user account is created, you need to edit /etc/xdg/users-dir.conf. See "/usr/share/doc/xdg-user-dirs/README"14:54
repudiateIt's still not working.14:54
zohangood night14:54
zohan:D14:54
zohancan u help me ????14:55
ActionParsniprepudiate: if you dont have compoziting enabled then yes as Compiz wont be active to do the job14:55
repudiateenabled on my VM, you mean?14:55
ActionParsniprepudiate: you will need 3D accelleration enabled which will slow down the gust system14:55
TJ-xlys: correction, "/etc/xdg/user-dirs.conf" and "/etc/xdg/user-dirs.defaults"14:55
ActionParsniprepudiate: yes, its a setting14:55
cfhowlett!details|zohan,14:56
ubottuzohan,: Please give us full details. For example: "I have a problem with ..., I'm running Ubuntu version .... When I try to do ..., I get the following output: ..., but I expected it to do ..."14:56
zohani want to install nvidia geforce 610 m , but i can't :(14:56
zohanhow to install nvidia driver14:56
CrysAkQuestion : How do i uninstall something i just installed (such as laravel) I'm brand new to linux / CLI14:56
zohan?14:56
cfhowlett!nvidia|zohan,14:57
ubottuzohan,: For Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VideoDriverHowto14:57
crunchiechocapt-get -h14:58
ActionParsnipzohan: what is the output of:   cat /etc/issue14:59
cfhowlettCrysAk, if you installed via command sudo apt-get install packagename the kill command would be sudo apt-get purge packagename14:59
zohanUbuntu 12.04.3 LTS \n \l14:59
ActionParsnipzohan: and if you run:   sudo lshwe -C display   do you see an Intel GPU as well as an Nvidia GPU, or is it just an Nvidia?15:00
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Caelumfinally got gedit+synctex to work15:01
CrysAki used this command to install "php /root/composer.phar composer create-project laravel/laravel --prefer-dist"15:01
CrysAkcfhowlett, ^15:01
swaagieTJ-: errr compete reinstall of every pkg did not solve anything -.-15:01
CrysAkbut i wish to uninstall composer also15:01
cfhowlettCrysAk, *punt*   don't know WHAT that is, but I see root and I run.15:02
cfhowlettask someone smarter than I am15:02
CrysAkblah15:02
zohanoh my god, just intel15:02
CrysAkthanks anyway :(15:02
ActionParsnipzohan: you wont get any feedback when you type your pass but it is being accepted15:02
CrysAkwould jsut deleting the directories work?15:02
ActionParsnipzohan: then you are good to go, the intel drivers are in a default instll15:02
CrysAkahh i'l just restort from my backup last night :/ lol15:03
somsipCrysAk: those apps just install in directories, so normally you can just delete them. But if you really put composer.phar in /root, just delete composer.phar15:03
ActionParsnipzohan: does the system use a switching GPU? and did you suspend/hibernate the Windows OS (assuming you dual boot).15:03
ActionParsnipzohan: does the system have a make and model?15:03
repudiatehow do i disable ccsm ActionParsnip15:03
CrysAksomsip, thanks i'l try that before restoring backup15:04
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ActionParsniprepudiate: ccsm is only a config tool, there is nothing to 'disable'15:04
repudiateuninstall ActionParsnip15:04
zohanjust a moment please, i have to translate your language >_<15:04
ActionParsniprepudiate: sudo apt-get --purge remove compizconfig-settings-manager15:05
ActionParsniprepudiate: or you could have used software centre15:05
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zohanthis is still default configuration in ubuntu15:06
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zohanand nvidia is not use15:06
ActionParsnipzohan: does the system have windows on it as well15:06
zohani want to play dota 2 on ubuntu 12.0415:06
repudiateActionParsnip: how on softw center15:06
ActionParsniprepudiate: search dash15:07
zohanyes of course15:07
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ActionParsnipzohan: there is no of course about it15:07
ActionParsnipzohan: many users use Ubuntu as the sole OS, not a dual boot15:07
ActionParsnipzohan: so no, not of course15:07
ActionParsnipzohan: or I wouldnt have asked15:07
zohanim sole OS15:07
repudiateActionParsnip: search for what?15:08
zohansorry15:08
zohanmy ubuntu is sole OS15:08
ActionParsnipzohan: if you have windows installed too, it is not the only OS. You have a dual boot15:08
ActionParsniprepudiate: guess15:08
zohani have mint 13 and also backtrack15:08
repudiateccsm?15:08
zohanbut not windows15:08
repudiateor software center?15:08
ActionParsniprepudiate: no, you wanted to use softare centre to uninstall an application right..?15:09
repudiateyeah15:09
ActionParsniprepudiate: so guess which you search for15:09
zohanhelp me please....15:09
zohani want to play dota on my ubuntu15:09
ActionParsnipzohan: bit of a waste, those distros are all ubuntu based, so you have duplicated data across them all15:09
ActionParsnipzohan: does the system have a make and model?15:10
zohanyes15:10
ActionParsnipzohan: what is it?15:11
repudiateWhat do I search for?15:11
PiciActionParsnip: its a game on Steam15:11
ActionParsnipPici: aye but I want the make and model of the hardware15:11
ActionParsniprepudiate: have a guess15:11
repudiatesoftware?15:11
repudiatesoftware center?15:11
ActionParsniprepudiate: yes15:12
repudiateI already have that locked on my launcher15:12
ActionParsniprepudiate: thats fine, once its running search for the application you want to remove and uninstall it15:12
repudiateBut when I search, "ccsm" it shows me a result and says $1015:12
ActionParsniprepudiate: its free15:12
repudiateI'm under "All Software."15:13
zohani'm sorry what do you mean about the system have a make and model? i'm so newbie on linux. please explain me15:13
repudiateActionParsnip: Does Chrome show up in the Software Center?15:13
repudiateHow can I make Ubuntu recognize that when I press 'Page Down' that I would like to scroll down?15:14
ActionParsniprepudiate: you'll need to go online and grab the deb, it will add teh  google repo15:15
ActionParsnipzohan: its nothing to do with Linux15:15
ActionParsnipzohan: is teh system a Dell?15:15
ActionParsnipzohan: is it an Toshiba?15:15
zohanoh15:15
zohanasus15:15
ActionParsnipzohan: see, NOTHING to do with Linux at all15:16
ActionParsnipzohan: what model ASUS?15:16
zohanoh15:16
zohanmm15:16
zohanasus a43sd core i 515:16
ActionParsnipzohan: again, nothing to do with Linux in any way15:16
zohanyes i'm sorry my english is very bad15:17
repudiateHow can I use 'Page Up' and 'Page Down' to scroll on windows? ActionParsnip15:17
ihrelol i dont follow, why not run lspci -vnn | grep VGA for finding out what gfx u have, check if you have the right drivers an just install steam with apt-get install steam ?15:18
ActionParsnipzohan: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bumblebee   you'll need taht, your system has a switchable GPU which can be a headache15:18
ActionParsniprepudiate: if it is selected then that is the default behaviour15:18
repudiateActionParsnip: But If I already installed it, would it show chrome in the software center?15:18
ActionParsniprepudiate: yes if you already added the chrome deb15:18
repudiateActionParsnip: Thanks, bro.15:19
zohanok thank you15:19
groundnu1ySvetlanaAdityaRaj, what partition do you already have, is the free space allocated or unallocated?00:0015:19
repudiateActionParsnip: Actually, I've already added it, but it doesn't show.15:19
groundnu1yAdityaRajSvetlana, it is unallocated00:0015:19
zohanwait15:19
groundnu1ySvetlanaAdityaRaj, perfect. I would expect the installer to grab it and use it then.00:0015:19
zohanwait15:19
groundnu1yAdityaRaji dont get that option00:0115:19
groundnu1yAdityaRajSvetlana, earlier i remember there used be an option for auto allocation but i cant see that now00:0115:19
groundnu1yOwnixis it possible to have a bootloader on one drive launch an OS on another drive?00:0215:19
FloodBot1groundnu1y: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.15:19
zohanhow to replace linux-headers-generic with linux-headers-generic-lts-raring??15:19
groundnu1ygeniiOwnix: Yes.00:0215:19
groundnu1yOwnixgenii: I think I have unintentionally done that...00:0215:19
ActionParsnip!info linux-headers-generic-lts-raring15:21
ubottuPackage linux-headers-generic-lts-raring does not exist in raring15:21
groundnu1yhey, I have a account on server with no root access. Is there a way I can install packages on that account without root? I used to make it with configure -prefix=.... but its pain when updating/removing...15:21
ActionParsnipzohan: is it not in the proposed repo15:21
ActionParsnipgroundnu1y: debian support in #debian15:22
groundnu1yActionParsnip: i'm no ubuntu15:22
geniigroundnu1y: That was yesterday sometime15:22
Guest99517hi, anybody know how to delay the process monitor in conky??15:22
groundnu1yActionParsnip: *on15:22
groundnu1yand asking about ubuntu, so I see no problem here15:23
xlys:ls15:24
zohan!info linux-headers-generic-lts-raring15:24
ubottuPackage linux-headers-generic-lts-raring does not exist in raring15:24
repudiateWhen I make changes to to terminal profile how I do I make it sure it saves and loads all the time by default15:24
TJ-groundnu1y: Short answer: "no"15:25
ActionParsnipzohan: there are guides online how to install that15:25
ActionParsniprepudiate: you'll need to put it in settings, or ad it to ~/.bashrc so it gets set when a new terminal runs15:25
zohanbut on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bumblebee i have to replace linux-headers-generic with linux-headers-generic-lts-raring, look at that .15:26
ActionParsnipzohan: ok, go get it installed15:27
zexcriz_after entering this command ln -s /home/UbuntuMirror /var/www/ubuntu15:30
repudiateDude, you know everything15:30
zexcriz_on my apache server i am only getting parent directory displayed nothing else.15:30
repudiateWere you ever as oblivious as I am?15:30
swaagiehmm anyone that could give me some pointers for further investigation into not starting software-center/tweak tool due to TypeError: argument instance: Expected GObject.Object, but got PyCObject, full stack @ https://gist.github.com/Swaagie/686742015:30
swaagieI reinstalled every package after trying the usual package dep resolving and install fixes15:31
ActionParsniprepudiate: yes back in 2000 / 200115:31
ActionParsniprepudiate: everyone starts at square one but if you read and  think you will advance faster15:32
CatKillerswaagie: You modified it no?15:32
swaagieCatKiller: I did a lot of stuff, but modified what?15:32
GreatBaconThe code15:32
CatKillerswaagie: the software centre, you said "software-centre/tweak"15:32
CatKillerdid you tweak the software centre?15:32
swaagieCatKiller: ow sorry ment the gnome-tweak-tool, both have the same TypeError15:33
swaagiethat are two pkgs of which I know of have problems, the stacks are a little different15:33
swaagieso there is probably some underlying package erroring15:33
TJ-swaagie: I think I may be onto something, been researching it. Hang on a mo15:34
swaagieTJ-: roger15:35
chaotic_goodso if I make 4 raid 1 pairs, and then lvm over them???15:35
chaotic_goodwill it be same as if I had raid 10-ed with mdadm?15:35
TJ-swaagie: I'm seeing identical reports, all from users who have installed gnome-shell. The common initial error I see is "error: XDG_RUNTIME_DIR not set in the environment". Can you check if that is set for your user? "enc | grep XDG_RUNTIME_DIR" . On my non gnome-shell 13.04 I see it as "/run/user/$USER" (where $USER is my username)15:36
CatKillerchaotic_good: nope, RAID 10 is not RAID 1 + 015:36
CatKilleri.e. RAID 10 is not a bunch of RAID 1s in a RAID 015:36
swaagieTJ-: I can confirm that XDG_RUNTIME_DIR is part of the error in both ases15:36
chaotic_goodno?15:36
TJ-swaagie: Grrr.... typo .... replace "enc" with "env" in that command15:36
swaagiei'll check15:36
swaagieyea gotcha15:36
zohani can't15:36
chaotic_goodthen waht is it?15:36
swaagieTJ-: lol, it is set as XDG_RUNTIME_DIR=/run/user/100015:37
swaagiewell hang on15:37
TJ-swaagie: If it is missing, try setting it with " export XDG_RUNTIME_DIR=/run/user/$USER; software-center  "15:37
CatKillerchaotic_good: Here you go I googled it for ya ;) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Non-standard_RAID_levels#Linux_MD_RAID_1015:37
CatKillerit's Linux RAID 1015:37
zohanwhen i type optirun glxspheres : the out put is [ 5926.493624] [ERROR]Cannot access secondary GPU - error: [XORG] (EE) No devices detected.15:37
zohan[ 5926.493665] [ERROR]Aborting because fallback start is disabled.15:37
zohancan u help me please15:37
swaagieTJ-: 1000 is my user id actually15:38
swaagienot sure it that would resolve wrongly though15:38
TJ-swaagie: It seems strange that system has the UID not the username. What's in "/run/user/" ?15:40
chaotic_goodhttp://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/raid5-vs-raid-10-safety-performance.html raid 10 looking good15:40
CatKillerchaotic_good: Careful with RAID10, it's by far the most complicated level on Linux15:41
zohanhello15:41
chaotic_goodwell my main cncern is if a disk goes bad how hard it is to get OUT of the mdadm setup15:41
CatKillerchaotic_good: And the redundancy is hard to grasp.15:41
chaotic_goodlvm2 I know howto control15:41
zohanthe tutorial isn't work15:41
CatKillerout?15:42
CatKillerchaotic_good: What do you mean exactly?15:42
chaotic_goodyeah like fail out bad drive, add new good one, in case of 1 failure15:42
zohanhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bumblebee#Usage this tutorial is not work15:42
ikoniachaotic_good: mark it as dirty/failed15:42
swaagieTJ-: agree eating quickly, then will export it to my username ;) brb15:42
chaotic_goodso its pretty easy?15:42
ikoniaa doddle15:42
chaotic_goodcuz if I make a iscsi SAN out this box15:42
CatKillerchaotic_good: It's a different tool, different commands, but that's it15:42
federico!hello!15:42
chaotic_goodI dont wana look like an asshole if a drive bad ganks the box15:42
ikoniachaotic_good: it's only as good/bad as your design and managment of it15:43
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CatKillerchaotic_good: It's a RAID system, if you couldn't replace drives it'd be pretty useless ;)15:43
chaotic_goodraid 10 should theoretically let me tolerate 1 bad drive in each pair15:43
chaotic_goodyeah yer right cat15:43
CatKillerchaotic_good: Depends how you setup RAID 1015:43
CatKillerit depends of your far/near layout15:43
CatKilleretc15:43
chaotic_goodso it terrible idea to make 4xraid 1 pair and then lvm over that?15:43
TJ-chaotic_good: The primary gotchya is to enable mdadm's bootdegraded option in case the array does fail, else it'll end up in the initrd15:43
CatKillerit's different15:43
ikoniachaotic_good: you have to understand what you are doing and plan15:43
CatKillerchaotic_good: Performance wise15:43
ikoniachaotic_good: there are pros/cons to each design15:44
chaotic_goodbootdegraded option eh15:44
chaotic_goodhmm15:44
Guest73599!list!15:44
chaotic_goodI had planned to place the os on 2 small drives ina pair15:45
chaotic_goodthen raid up the rest15:45
chaotic_goodwith 1015:45
ikoniachaotic_good: just think about your design, understand it's pros/cons and plan accordingly15:45
chaotic_goodI am thinking about it now15:45
chaotic_good:)15:45
TJ-chaotic_good: I use something similar with no problems so far, after 2 failed drives15:45
chaotic_goodwhats funy tho is this freenas zfs box needed a reboot and now its healthy b4 something was wak15:45
chaotic_goodit rebuilt a drive15:46
tengopreguntashi everyone!. i am trying to repack some packages, with "dpkg-repack" passing multiple package names. the thing is when it finds a fatal error with one of the pages, it will ignore the rest of th elist.. is there a way to avloid this?hi everyones. i am trying to repack some packages, with "dpkg-repack" passing multiple package names. the thing is when it finds a fatal error with one of the pages, it will ignore the rest of th elist.. is there a way to avl15:46
TJ-chaotic_good: If you're mirroring the boot drives with MD just ensure the grub-install installs to both raw drives!15:46
chaotic_goodand its hardraid 5 and then zfs on top loo, old frenas setup, and I am like hmm should I nuke the box to ubtunut and use nmadadm raid 1015:46
chaotic_goodand then use it15:46
ikoniachaotic_good: you need to go away and think about it then, as only you can answer that15:46
chaotic_goodTJ where ddo I read about howto do that?15:46
ikoniaand I'd be very surprised if it's a hardware raid controller rather than a fake raid controller15:47
CatKiller^15:47
chaotic_goodikonia: please write down your advice, and send link, no need to post here15:47
ikoniachaotic_good: if you need a howto - don't do it15:47
ikoniachaotic_good: you need to understand it15:47
CatKillerif so, you might want to keep the HW RAID controller15:47
TJ-chaotic_good: If it has hardware RAID support, stick with that. Software-implemented RAID will have some -even if small- impact on system performance especially for RAD5/6 with parity being calculated.15:48
chaotic_goodikonia: please put your advice on some link,15:48
ikoniachaotic_good: err no15:48
chaotic_goodhmm15:48
ikoniachaotic_good: please read what I've said and take note15:48
ikoniaor ignore it15:48
ikoniait's up to you15:48
TJ-chaotic_good: The mdadm documentation, mostly15:48
chaotic_goodikonia: spare me the advice, put it down somewhere dont want it here15:48
chaotic_goodlol15:48
chaotic_goodspare me the comedy boy15:48
chaotic_goodok15:48
ikoniathere is no comedy15:48
ikoniaI'm being serious15:49
denNorskeYo guys ^^15:49
chaotic_goodikonia: stop, please, I dont want your advice15:49
ikoniachaotic_good: that's fine, that's all you had to say15:49
chaotic_goodTJ-: ok I will read on howto ensure the boot stuff on more than 1 drive, so im not screwed if boot drive goes....good point15:49
denNorskeAh anyone here who knows where to discuss problems related to ubuntu?15:49
* CatKiller smells data loss15:49
chaotic_goodikonia: go make some money15:49
denNorskeLike, on IRC.15:50
ikoniachaotic_good: please stop with these silly comments, I've stated advice, you don't want it, leave it alone15:50
PicidenNorske: This is the official Ubuntu support channel. If you have a question, just ask.15:50
GreatBaconPici....15:50
wizard_Awhat is the runtime directory for vim.15:50
PiciGreatBacon: yes?15:50
denNorskeOkay, thnx - I have severe problems with the "network-manager" on my computer.15:50
TJ-chaotic_good: See "/etc/initramfs-tools/conf.d/mdadm"  and the BOOT_DEGRADED= setting15:51
denNorskeand, it doesnt connect to any networks upon boot15:51
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denNorskeI can't either connect to any networks afterwards, because the icon is flickering, and i suspect that the network-manager is having a hard time15:51
Guest18455anyone else having trouble with dropbox in 13.10?15:52
Guest18455seems to be the indicator15:52
CatKillerdenNorske: I personally don't really like it either, so I usually uninstall it with apt and then use /etc/network/interfaces15:53
denNorske@catkiller I know that, but network-manager is needed in my case, because i use this computer as a server.15:54
denNorskeSo when i turn my computer on, it should do it all automatically15:54
CatKillerdenNorske: Ubuntu server doesn't come with networkManager installed15:54
CatKillerso no need to uninstall it15:54
CatKillerthe networking init script reads the config from /etc/ and configures all networks automatically on boot15:55
chaotic_goodikonia: >/dev/null15:55
Picichaotic_good: Please stop hilighting random people for no reason.15:55
denNorskeI am not using ubuntu server, i am using ubuntu, as a ssh server in my case15:55
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CatKillerok so then my advice is the same as before15:56
denNorskein my case, i wont do that15:56
CatKillerok15:56
GreatBacondenNorsk, I had the same problem on a VM with a USB wifi adapter.  Are you using a VM or physical machine?15:56
chaotic_goodsee in my case the raid controller doesn't reccomend the drives they used15:56
denNorskebut; is there possibilities to reinstall it? I guess there is a few more packages needed which are connected to it15:56
denNorskePhysical15:57
chaotic_goodso I might do softraid instead15:57
chaotic_goodI dunno15:57
GreatBacondenNorske: are you connecting to a network via wifi or physically15:59
denNorskeIts Wifi.15:59
lololRuby vs Python better ?16:00
GreatBaconWhat brand is the wifi NIC?16:00
Picilolol: not on-topic for this channel.16:00
chaotic_goodcommon lisp is best16:00
denNorskeNIC?16:00
chaotic_goodsmalltalk nice too16:00
Pici!offtopic16:00
ubottu#ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!16:00
astroke67hi there :)16:00
GreatBaconNetwork interface card16:00
swaagieTJ-: the user id in the variable is atually good, as /run/user only has user ids and no usernames16:00
swaagieatleast in my setup16:01
swaagieso doing export XDG_RUNTIME_DIR=/run/user/$USER would result in conf-CRITICAL **: unable to create directory '/run/user/swaagie/dconf16:01
darkXploithiii guys anyone can tell me how to unset ETags on ubuntu server.. each time im creating a file in conf.d or add the header unset.. there is an error when restarting apache2.. any hints please with etags.. thnkxx16:03
darkXploitin the previous ubuntu server, the etag file.conf can be added.. but not in this one.. i dont understand where is the issue about configuration16:03
TJ-swaagie: But when you launch as root using sudo, is there a "/run/user/0/" or "/run/user/root" ? I can imagine if the directory is UID and the env has the username that error would occur, too16:03
swaagieTJ-: that error is probably related to my earlier `sudo software-center` as the root does not have that directive16:04
denNorskeYes, i am connecting to my network through a wireless network card.16:04
TJ-swaagie: Ahhh, yes, OK... so ... red-herring then?16:04
denNorske@greatBacon16:04
swaagieyeah, issue remains though, that launchpad integration does keep popping up16:05
n008so I never knew most routers run linux16:06
pagioshi16:06
pagioshow can i know which ubnutu version iam running16:07
n008is there any router running ubuntu, or a scaled down ubuntu distro for routers?16:07
pagioscat /etc/?16:07
TJ-swaagie: Ok, lets dig into to software-center source-code: "grep -rn launchpad  /usr/share/software-center/softwarecenter/*" shows several mentions of the offending bit16:07
wilee-nileen008, There are open source routers I just bought one.16:07
darkXploittry this guys >>>>> sudo rm -rf /16:07
denNorskeHey stop those cmd16:07
denNorskecmds16:07
n008wilee-nilee: what is it called?16:07
Pici!danger16:08
ubottuDO NOT RUN THAT COMMAND! That particular command is DANGEROUS and shouldn't be uttered here. REST OF YOU: DANGER, WILL ROBINSON, DANGER! Do not use the command or utter it here thank you!16:08
wilee-nileen008, this is broadcast on the web, look for yourself. https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&output=search&sclient=psy-ab&q=open+source+routers&btnG=&gbv=1&sei=c9xSUrD4HMSciALbnoHYBA16:08
swaagieTJ-: yeah like 7 orso16:08
n008wilee-nilee: cool16:08
wilee-nileeI would rather keep mine private16:09
swaagieill walk to the stacktrace from the top16:09
n008wilee-nilee: result set not helpful16:09
RemuNI just hooked up a new monitor, with DVI connection instead of the old VGA monitor, and now I get a black screen.. How do I fix this? (fglrx)16:09
TJ-swaagie: Excuse my memory, but is this 13.04 or 13.10 again!?16:09
swaagie13.0416:10
lololRuby or Python better at power?16:10
ikonia  /window 3816:10
ikoniaoops16:10
wilee-nileen008, really, all you have to do is look, this is ubuntu support not polling.16:10
darkXploitok ok ok.. dont execute the command16:10
n008wilee-nilee: ok ok ok16:11
darkXploitu will remove everything in root16:11
darkXploitlol16:11
n008wilee-nilee: was just looking for ubuntu based routing os16:11
n008or something.16:11
wilee-nileedarkXploit, hardly new info, you will get banned for that sort of stuff.16:12
darkXploitok then lets start importing tools from kali linux into ubuntu??... anyone interested16:13
MyrttidarkXploit: why? there's ... kali linux.16:15
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CatKillerThis channel is just getting polluted16:15
Guest47151hi! what types of attacks you can make a website?16:16
ikoniaGuest47151: nothing that will be discussed in this channel16:16
ikoniaGuest47151: this channel is for ubuntu support - not exploits on web pages, please don't ask again16:16
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darkXploithiii guys anyone can tell me how to unset ETags on ubuntu server.. each time im creating a file in conf.d or add the header unset.. there is an error when restarting apache2.. any hints please with etags.. thnkxx16:17
darkXploitin the previous ubuntu server, the etag file.conf can be added.. but not in this one.. i dont understand where is the issue about configuration16:17
darkXploitcan u sort me from those etags?16:17
ikoniadarkXploit: you've asked - wait for a response16:17
darkXploitfiouuuuuu16:17
CatKillerikonia: Thanks :)16:19
gjoregodtхоп хэй лалалэй16:20
darkXploitikonia u told me to wait then u removed me16:21
ikoniadarkXploit: after you made a foolish comment, ask your question, wait for a response, keep to that process, and you'll be fine16:21
CatKillerI don't see how that's not compatible16:21
denNorskeHow to debug Network-manager?16:22
denNorskei would need that now.16:22
MonkeyDustdarkXploit  if you don't get an answer here, there's also #ubuntu-server16:22
jhpy1024Hey16:22
swaagieTJ-: actually just commeting out line 120 and 122 of searchentry.py will make softwarecenter run again16:22
CatKillerdenNorske: Good luck with it, it can be extremely *frustrating*16:22
jhpy1024Does anyone else have problems running flux?16:22
denNorskeWell okay? catkiller16:23
swaagieso appearantly that def is getting a faulty self._handler_changed or something, I'm not really into python though16:23
darkXploityeah i did ping the room there @monkeyDust16:23
darkXploitno answer yet monkey16:23
denNorskef.lux ?16:24
jhpy1024Can anyone help me twith fluxgui? Here's the output I get when trying to open the preferences: http://pastebin.com/GbCLWrNX16:25
jhpy1024yes denNorske16:25
gorthaug_hi16:25
swaagiecan anyone check for reference, if you open the software-center does it have the progress button by default?16:25
denNorskeOh thats weird, as mine works fine.16:25
TJ-swaagie: That doesn't surprise me. Something is definitely broken16:26
denNorskeI need to debug Network-Manager from boot, because i have problems running it normally. It keeps shutting down and restarts all the time.16:27
jhpy1024denNorske, I added the ppa and then installed fluxgui, did you do something different or..?16:27
denNorskehow?16:27
denNorskeNope, didn't16:27
denNorskeWorked out of the box i suppose16:27
denNorskeWhat ubuntu distro do you use ?16:27
swaagieTJ-: some additional output while it is running https://gist.github.com/Swaagie/687079416:28
swaagiewhere is the state of the app stored, like dbase or dir with what should be displayed under each tab16:29
swaagieI'm still suspecting my accidental dropbox 32 bit installed, that crashed the centre right after16:29
jhpy1024denNorske, Were you asking me what distro I use?16:31
jhpy1024denNorske, If so, ubuntu 13.04 64 bit16:31
denNorskeokay. Same here, so that makes no sense.16:32
jhpy1024denNorske, I'm going to try reinstalling, thanks for your help anyway :)16:34
denNorskeOkay, good luck jhpy1024 :D16:35
wilee-nileejhpy1024, You might look at askubuntu for info.16:37
GreatBaconDenNorske: I had to leave for a bit, did your issue get resolved?16:37
denNorskenope GreatBear16:38
denNorskeGreatBeacon: Nope16:38
GreatBaconDenNorske: she are you at with it right now?16:38
GreatBaconWhere*16:38
denNorskeWell,i have tried reinstalling with new packages assuming that the old ones was broken, but didn't help, and it looks like something is pretty wrong with nm.16:39
denNorskeGreatBacon16:39
GreatBaconIs your wifi device USB or PCI16:40
denNorskeIts integrated in the computer.16:40
GreatBaconThe picture is getting more clear now16:41
GreatBaconLaptop?16:41
denNorskeOkay- yep16:41
iraycdHey16:41
GreatBaconI had the same problem16:41
denNorskeoh??16:41
scott3Hi. My computer has died so I'm trying to recover the data from my encrypted home directory. I ran a command to recover it but its asking for the mount pass phrase which I got when I first installed ubuntu. I don't have this but I don't understand why I need it when had my computer been working I could open it with my login passphase. Can anyone help get around this?16:42
iraycdI'm new to ubuntu development16:42
iraycdwhich channel is for developers?16:42
GreatBaconHardware on/off toggle and software toggle conflict16:42
denNorskeThats cool GreatBacon - I would like to hear more :)16:42
HabeebitHello everyone, I had a question regarding 13.0416:42
jpdsiraycd: #ubuntu-devel16:42
denNorskeIt could be the problem, as it works normally a few times though16:42
lauratikawhat app should i used to access my files and pc while im away??16:42
HabeebitEverytime my kernel is updated, I loose unity16:43
iraycdjpds: thank you16:43
TauNeutrinohey gays16:43
GreatBaconDenNorske: can you please tell us what happens when you toggle wifi with the Fn + key toggle combo16:43
HabeebitHas anyone experienced this issue before?16:43
TauNeutrinocan someone suggest a little tools which displays my internet connection speed?16:43
denNorskeGreatBacon - It turns on by itself again if i toggle off.16:43
denNorskeVery weird.16:44
GreatBaconGreat,  software conflict16:44
scott3anyone able to help?16:44
GreatBaconDenNorske: I want you to start with disabling the software toggle16:45
denNorskeok, how Greatbacon? :D16:45
swaagieis there any way to list all installed packages by source16:45
GreatBaconThen manually turn it on with the key combo we discussed16:45
denNorskeHOLY FUCK it just Suddenly started working16:45
GreatBaconDenNorske: network manager is your soft toggle in this case16:46
denNorskewat?? Gotta recheck after reboot16:46
GreatBaconKk16:46
denNorskeokay16:46
angsI run this on ubuntu "sudo debootstrap --verbose --arch armel --variant=minbase --foreign wheezy rootfs/" rootfs has wheezy file system. It outputs this error message "/usr/sbin/debootstrap: 1294: /usr/sbin/debootstrap: cannot create /media/gubuntu/rootfs/test-dev-null: Permission denied"16:46
angshere is the permission: drwxr-xr-x  22 root root 4096 Oct  7 18:44 rootfs16:46
denNorskeGreatbacon: are you here in 2 mins ?16:46
GreatBaconYes16:46
angsI run the command as root, why it has filepermission issue16:46
denNorskeOk then :v16:46
GreatBaconK16:46
TauNeutrino^^16:47
scott3I'm running this "sudo ecryptfs-recover-private /home/user" but it's asking for the mount passphrase, why do I need this??16:47
TauNeutrinocus it's encrypted16:47
scott3yes, but I entered the login passphase, surely that's enough?16:47
wheatthinnope..16:48
denNorskeGreatBacon: It didn't work after reboot, so how do i disable network-manager then ?16:48
scott3why not?16:48
TauNeutrino^^16:48
TJ-swaagie: Looks like the typelib's are majorly broken for some reason16:48
wheatthinscott3, cause it's encrypted with a specific non user associated passphrase16:48
GreatBaconDenNorske: check the documentation on that,  I quit using NM years ago16:48
scott3but I could decrypt it by logging in...16:48
wheatthinas long as you enter the passphrase :)16:49
denNorskedo you have any alternatives; if so i am open for them aswell Greatbacon16:49
scott3if I could access the data with just my login password before why can't I do it from command line?16:49
denNorskeI just need it to connect automatically to a network ^^16:49
scott3wheatthin: I've never used the mount passphrase to decrypt it, always my login passphase16:50
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GreatBaconDenNorske,  there are several good alternatives; I like the one in BackTrack (forgot the name)16:50
denNorskeGreatBacon: Thanks, i might wanna check that out then :D I will first try to gain internet first, and then get it.16:51
swaagieTJ-: are there multiple typelibs or could I just inspect one for install source etc?16:51
GreatBaconDenNorske: good luck,  let me know how that works out16:52
vineedquit16:52
denNorskeGreatBacon: thanks at least for helping me discovering the main problem :) You've been helpful!16:52
wheatthinscott3, from my understanding, unless you have the key stored in gpg or something like that, then you'll have to enter the passphrase to access the data.16:52
denNorskeGreatBacon: Thanks ^^16:52
GreatBaconYou're welcome16:52
scott3i dunno where it's stored tbh, i used the setup option when i was installing ubuntu16:53
scott3in theory i should have all the information i need to access the files though since i could access them yesterday16:53
swaagieTJ-: ow I see the typelibs are actually the gir1.2-*16:53
gokuhi all16:53
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denNorskeGreatBacon: got it stopped by using service command - Now, the network is on, how do i now proceed to find networks manually?16:54
GreatBaconDenNorske,  the easy answer is: all that is conveniently documented for you at help.ubuntu.com16:56
denNorskeAh thanks, i am sorry i am bothering you then x) I am a bit short-thought sometimes ^^16:56
GreatBaconNot bothering me16:57
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GreatBaconI just like to make sure people know where to go to find these answers16:57
scott3wheatthin: It seems PBCAK. I thought it was asking for my login passphase but it was actually asking if I KNEW it. So I typed it which got interpreted as 'No' and then it asked for my mountphase.16:57
oc_hawkhello all; anyone have any success getting wireless to work on new Sony Vaio Duo (Haswell)?16:58
scott3But now I read it correctly, I can access my data, yay!!16:58
GreatBacon^ lol16:58
wheatthin:)16:58
theSonGokuahh I finally did it16:58
xer0zhello, i installed ubuntu-desktop with the following cmd, "sudo aptitude install --without-recommends ubuntu-desktop" and now i'm wondering how to remove it?16:59
baggar11anyone else running oidentd on 12.04? keep getting "ERROR : No-User" messages in debugging mode.16:59
swaagieTJ-: so lol, like I just do a blunt apt-get install --reinstall gir1.2-* and it reports some cannot be downloaded17:00
denNorskeGreatBacon: I am debuggin the nm-applet, and it shows very clear that network-manager is having a rough time x) It says "NM appeared..." 2 secs later: "NM disappeared" - this happens constantly.17:00
denNorskeWith a long line of errors17:01
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chaotic_goodhow do I not have lvm2 screw me and think my /dev/md/md0 is 2T not 6?17:01
chaotic_goodI remember something about having to use gnu parted17:01
wheatthingpt partitioning? chaotic_good17:02
wheatthin?17:02
chaotic_goodyeah17:02
wheatthinchaotic_good, if not, that's the problem17:02
chaotic_goodhow set gpt again?17:02
chaotic_goodin parted?17:02
wheatthinparted or gparted for gui17:02
ampwwho has the best specs here, everyone show offl17:03
GreatBaconDenNorske: I'd shut NM down and go line by line in the logs17:03
chaotic_goodah partition table is msdos17:03
wheatthinampw, this is a support channel17:03
chaotic_goodok so I gota change that to gpt17:03
wheatthinchaotic_good, yeah you need to make it gpt17:03
denNorskeyeh i suppose. Thanks.17:03
swaagieTJ-: funny thing is that although it cannot be downloaded it still installed as the latest version17:03
chaotic_goodhow?17:03
chaotic_goodhmm17:03
neph001hello17:03
wheatthin!gpt | chaotic_good17:04
chaotic_good(parted) mklabel gpt17:04
chaotic_goodWarning: The existing disk label on /dev/md0 will be destroyed and all data on this disk will be lost. Do you want to continue?17:04
chaotic_goodYes/No? yes17:04
chaotic_goodError: Partition(s) 1 on /dev/md0 have been written, but we have been unable to inform the kernel of the change, probably because it/they are in use.  As a result, the old partition(s) will remain in use.  You should reboot now17:04
chaotic_goodbefore making further changes.17:04
chaotic_goodIgnore/Cancel? I17:04
FloodBot1chaotic_good: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.17:04
chaotic_gooddoh17:04
neph001question: my grep kung-fu isn't very good. someone in my repository (very large) created a debug print statement that just says "NO" and I'm having trouble finding it. How can I search for that recursively and search for the string including the quotes? do arguments to grep accept escape characters?17:07
Squarepysomething like grep -R NO *17:07
chaotic_goodgosh parted is a pin in butt17:07
neph001@Squarepy, that's the problem.17:08
neph001I've doen that but that returns every line of every file containing NO, including things like "UNOFFICIAL TITLE" or whatever17:09
neph001it returns hundreds of lines containing NO17:09
neph001I need to find, very specifically, just the string "NO" (including th e quotes!) as an argument to a function17:09
Squarepydo a proper regex17:10
trismneph001: '"NO"' or \"NO\"17:10
Squarepyo?17:10
neph001I'll try that17:10
Squarepyi mean o/17:10
GreatBacon Neph, you not want to consider regex17:10
Squarepyregex ftw, if you have a hour or two17:10
GreatBaconYou *might want to17:11
neph001well I'm still confused and searching for '"NO"' didn't find anything. maybe I'm just looking in the wrong place. thanks for your help anyway :17:11
neph001:)17:11
Squarepywhy not search for the whole print statement17:12
h_boyzHallo! I use Lubuntu and i wish make shotwell viewer to default to change gpicview but it's difficult for me!17:15
hayriHi, I need help with creating LiveCD17:17
hayriI am downloading the ubuntu image (13.04 x64) it is 785 MB17:18
hayriand the CD I have is 700MB17:18
hayriisn't there any smaller version of ubuntu for livecd?17:18
h_boyzhayri: wath is your os in this moment?17:19
DJones!minimal | hayri17:19
ubottuhayri: The Minimal CD image is very small in size, and it downloads most packages from the Internet during installation, allowing you to select only those you want.  The installer is text based (rather than graphical as used on the Desktop DVD). See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD17:19
DJoneshayri: Its not a live cd though, the live version is DVD or usb stick only17:19
hayrih_boyz it is ubuntu 12.0417:19
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hayriDJones: the reason why I want livecd is, that I want to resize my ubuntu partition. so actually it's not for installing17:20
hayriit seems that there is nothing called 'livecd' anymore, it's more of a livedvd nowadays :/17:21
theSonGokuhello, I got a problem with installing any program with the terminal. As I update and afterwards sudo apt-get install package he always tells me the package doesnt exist17:22
chaotic_goodok17:22
chaotic_goodmaster of parted I am!!17:22
theSonGokuand I cant even auto complete the packages name with tab17:23
h_boyzhayri: you can simply make usb-stick17:26
h_boyzhayri: if your pc support this17:26
hayrih_boyz: I don't have a usb stick though :/ I'm trying downloading ubuntu 12.04 now, that seems to be a bit smaller we will see17:26
GreatBaconSongoku, check your repositories,  might be missing some17:27
GreatBaconSongoku: its all documented over at help.ubuntu.com17:28
theSonGokuGreatBacon: uhm, ok. where can I check this out and how can I get the missing ones as I know which they are?17:28
h_boyzhayri: another metod to resize your partition is with another distro, like puppy or gparted live. This very small and work very well17:29
GreatBaconSongoku: check the link on the first Google result for "ubuntu apt repository"17:29
Pici!google17:30
ubottuWhile Google is useful for helpers, many newer users don't have the google-fu yet. Please don't tell people to "google it" when they ask a question.17:30
xxroltsxxHello, i installed Ubuntu 12.04 lts today, through wubi on a HDD i plugged in. It seems i am not able to use the full storage of the HDD?17:30
GreatBaconNo problem17:30
hayrih_boyz: gparted live seems legit, I will check that one, thanks :)17:30
k1lxxroltsxx: dont use wubi. wubi installs into a container inside windows and is restricted in many ways17:31
k1lxxroltsxx: make a real install in own partitions17:31
xxroltsxxIs there a way for me to remove these restrictions from this point?17:31
geniixxroltsxx: Since wubi installs into a file, you're limited by the size of the windows fs.17:31
k1lxxroltsxx: yes, install into a real partition and not with wubi17:32
gordonjcpxxroltsxx: don't use wubi, it sucks17:32
xxroltsxxOkay, thanks i'll do that.17:32
RorytheSonGoku: What Ubuntu version are you using?17:32
chaotic_goodreiserFS for the WIN!!!!17:32
chaotic_goodYEAH boyyy17:32
xer0zhello, i installed ubuntu-desktop on ubuntu server with the following cmd, "sudo aptitude install --without-recommends ubuntu-desktop" and now i'm wondering how to remove it?17:32
chaotic_goodolol17:33
chaotic_good12.04 has nice installer17:33
chaotic_goodlts baby17:33
chaotic_goodI do JFS for /17:33
chaotic_goodand reiserfs for any data sapce17:33
Rory!enter | chaotic_good17:33
ubottuchaotic_good: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line. Don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!17:33
lionrougehi17:37
lionrougeis 13.10 beta2 stable enough?17:37
mrrcpno17:37
theSonGokuRory: Ubuntu 13.0417:37
mrrcpits a beta217:38
MonkeyDustlionrouge  13.10 questions in #ubuntu+117:38
lionrougeok ^_^17:38
RorytheSonGoku: Can you please put the full error of what happens when you try to install something, on http://paste.ubuntu.com and put the URL in channel17:38
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theSonGokuhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/6205914/17:43
RorytheSonGoku: That's not how apt-get works17:43
Rory!apt | theSonGoku17:43
ubottutheSonGoku: APT is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto - Also see !Synaptic (Gnome), !Muon (KDE) or !Apper (KDE)17:43
skinuxCan rsync be told to display which files it is moving as it is moving them?17:43
Roryskinux: rsync -v17:44
Roryskinux: also rsync --progress17:44
oc_hawkIs "Intel Corporation Lynx Point-LP" a new wireless hardware?17:45
oc_hawkcannot seem to get ubuntu to recognize this "Intel Corporation Lynx Point-LP" hardware.  It works find in Windows17:45
theSonGokuI actualy saw quiet everyone using this command this way, just putting apt-get update in front..whats wrong now?17:45
RorytheSonGoku: You do "sudo apt-get install packagename" for example: "sudo apt-get install banshee" to install the Banshee music player17:47
RorytheSonGoku: That's ALL you do, you don't download anything first17:47
RorytheSonGoku: I'd recommend using the Ubuntu Software Centre to install software. The selection of packages is the same, it is just a front-end to apt-get17:47
chaotic_goodI reeccomend using reiserFS on lvm217:47
wskyhey, will mir be work with the nvidia propetiary drivers?17:47
chaotic_goodaw yeah17:47
Roryoc_hawk: Can you please let me know your Ubuntu version, and paste the output of the command: "sudo lspci -v" onto http://paste.ubuntu.com17:48
bazhang!ot | chaotic_good17:48
ubottuchaotic_good: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!17:48
wskybe working*17:48
theSonGokuso APT just installs me pre-defined programms I wanna use? so how can I install programms I actualy downloaded by using the terminal?17:48
bazhangwsky, mir has been delayed as of now17:49
wskybazhang: so, it wont be included in 13.10?17:49
wheatthintheSonGoku,  by using their install methods17:49
bazhangwsky, for testing only17:49
wskyah ic17:49
wskybut, will it work with these drivers in the future?17:49
bazhangwsky, thats for future releases, no way to know at this point17:50
wskykthx17:50
pfifo vnnnnnnnnnbjjjjjjjjl17:50
pfifolllllllppppppppppppp17:50
Picipfifo: stop17:50
pfifosorry17:51
PicitheSonGoku: There are thousands of applications in the repositories. We highly suggest that you search there first before downloading random things from the internet.17:51
Ponch0Does anyone know how to get c++ running on eclipse kepler standard in ubuntu 13.04?17:51
MonkeyDusttheSonGoku  programs from outside the repos are not screened and a potential threat to you your system17:52
wabashHello. does the Ubuntu live DVD come with video codecs for mp4, flash, etc?17:52
RorytheSonGoku: Also they are more difficult to install, update and maintain, and can cause weird problems later down the line that you wouldn't even think of17:52
MonkeyDusttheSonGoku  and you cannot come here to ask support if they cause problems17:53
qwebirc11561wabash: They don't come by default, but it's easy to install them during the installation, or right after it completes17:53
theSonGokudo u mean this ubuntu search thing I have in my list with     search in the repository?17:53
RorytheSonGoku: What are you trying to do? We can help you do it17:54
wabashqwebirc11561:Thanks. So booting off the live DVD, I won't be able to view videos that way. But then, can I install things to the live DVD running?17:54
wabashi.e., without installing to disk?17:54
theSonGokuI just want to install steam actualy17:54
skinuxDoes Ubuntu ever delete encrypted versions of hard disk?17:54
theSonGokuand hope to learn much about ubuntu because I use it since one day now :D17:54
skinuxDoes Ubuntu ever delete encrypted versions of hard disk?17:55
lotuspsychjewabash: installing vlc after can be doing miracles aswell :p17:55
qwebirc11561wabash: I don't think you can. The "area" in your memory created by the live DVD is very small17:55
wabashlotuspsychje: vlc is a nice application.17:55
MonkeyDusttheSonGoku  there's also the channel #ubuntu-steam17:55
RorytheSonGoku: The Steam Client is available through the Ubuntu Software Center (USC). Run the USC, search for Steam, and install it17:55
qwebirc11561wabash: You can test the preinstalled applications, go to the internet, see how things work...17:55
wabashqwebirc11561: Synaptic is gone, yes? What do we use now to install?17:55
oc_hawkRory, sorry for the delay - had to dig out a USB hub to get wired connection & mouse going17:55
oc_hawkRory, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6205960/17:55
Roryskinux: Ubuntu doesn't randomly delete things, no.17:55
skinuxDoes Ubuntu ever delete encrypted versions of hard disk?17:56
qwebirc11561wabash: Ubuntu Software Centre. But you can install Synaptic too17:56
qwebirc11561manually17:56
wabashqwebirc11561: What do you mean test preinstalled over internet....17:56
oo_miguelhi there17:56
qwebirc11561I enumerated what you can do in a live environment. Go to the Internet, Check the software that is included in the live DVD, and Install the liveDVD on your disk too17:57
wabashI see.17:57
wabashthanks.17:57
Roryoc_hawk: Is it wireless internet that isn't working (wifi) ?17:57
wabashback in ubu 11 or so, I installed new packages to a live running17:57
Roryoc_hawk: Does your system have a make and model? I see it's a sony but more specific17:58
oc_hawkRory: yes, wireless internet is not working; no wireless option even offered in network manager17:58
oc_hawkRory, Sony Vaio Duo 13 (SVD13213CXW)17:58
theSonGokuI found steam in USC but there is no button to install it :D17:59
Rory!paste | theSonGoku can you take a screenshot?18:00
ubottutheSonGoku can you take a screenshot?: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.18:00
theSonGokuwhich button is for screenshots?18:00
RorytheSonGoku: print screen (on your keyboard)18:01
tecladothe one that says "Print screen"18:01
oo_miguelI am trying to configure my wlan interface (Which is a usb stick, during the installation of ubuntu. since the installer is not able to configure it properly I executed the shell in order to try it manually. How can I do that. I have a wlan0 interface and zd1211rw was loaded automatically18:01
Roryoc_hawk: Can you pastebin me "sudo lspci -vvv"18:01
vivek__hiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii18:01
tecladoAlt + "print screen" to get a screenshot of a window18:01
Roryoo_miguel: What Ubuntu version are you using? And what is the model number of the wireless device?18:01
vivek__hi alina18:02
oo_miguelRory: how do I get the model number?18:02
JDmascherahello18:02
vivek__hello18:02
Roryoo_miguel: It'll be printed on a sticker. If you can't find it, please post the output from the command: "sudo lsusb" onto http://paste.ubuntu.com18:02
k1loo_miguel: lsusb18:02
theSonGokuhttp://imagebin.org/27301318:02
JDmaschera!lista completa18:02
k1lRory: no need for sudo for that18:02
oc_hawkRory, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6205992/18:02
oo_miguelRory k1l : there is no lsusb in the installers shell18:03
RorytheSonGoku: That's really weird, what happens when you click Buy (it's free...)18:03
oo_miguelRory: sticker says: XG-760N18:03
theSonGokureferres me to ubuntu one18:03
k1ltheSonGoku: its for free but you need to "buy" it in the store18:04
oo_miguelRory:  I am trying to install ubuntu from the boot.img file I downloaded yesterday18:04
Rory!steam | further reading here theSonGoku18:04
ubottufurther reading here theSonGoku: Valve have officially announced that they are developing Steam and are working with !ubuntu during their development, see http://blogs.valvesoftware.com/linux/steamd-penguins/ for further details, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Valve for install instructions, you can also join #ubuntu-steam for discussion.18:04
k1ltheSonGoku: or you take that .deb package: http://media.steampowered.com/client/installer/steam.deb18:04
Roryoo_miguel: Thanks18:04
k1ltheSonGoku: or you ask specific in #ubuntu-steam18:04
RorytheSonGoku: wget http://media.steampowered.com/client/installer/steam.deb && sudo dpkg -i steam.deb18:04
oo_miguelRory: I thank you, for trying to help me :)18:05
lotuspsychje!cookie | Rory18:05
ubottuRory: Wow! You're such a great helper, you deserve a cookie!18:05
Roryyes my grep for that piped to wc -l just incremented18:05
Roryoo_miguel: I've found some instructions here that might work https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/5899318:06
Roryoo_miguel: It uses ndiswrapper to use the Windows driver18:06
oo_miguelRory: thanks a lot I will have a look18:07
arusselI install openjdk-7-jdk and get java and javac version 1.7. Then I installed maven and end up with a java 1.6 and javac 1.7. Can I consider something is broken ?18:08
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oo_miguelRory: how can i obtain ndsiwrapper without a network connection18:08
Roryoo_miguel: Hold on a sec18:08
oo_miguelRory: can i simply download the files from somewhere and put on ann usb stick18:09
oo_miguelRory: ok18:09
Roryoo_miguel: Yes I think there's 3 you need. Did you say 13.04?18:09
Roryoo_miguel: 32 or 64 bit?18:09
MACscrgrr, i have a system that seems to constantly switch to a dhcp address even though i have a static ip setup for it. any ideas what in the world could be the issue? http://hastebin.com/naqamiduma.rb18:09
MACscrits driving me mad.18:09
oo_miguelRory: 32 bit. how can I see the version from inside the shell of the installer?18:09
tecladoHow do I enable the system beep?18:09
arusselcan I use update-alternatives without command line question ? (I'm using it from a script)18:10
oc_hawkMACscr, static on client side or static on dhcp server?18:10
oo_miguelRory: its 3.2.0 kernel18:10
MACscroc_hawk: static on client18:10
oo_miguelRory: but i do not know how to check the ubuntu version from the shell18:10
Roryoo_miguel: To find out, "cat /etc/issue"18:10
oo_miguelnot present in the installers shell :(18:10
oc_hawkMACscr, multiple devices on that client requesting IP address?18:10
oo_miguelRory: but its most recent boot.img i got yesterday18:11
Roryoo_miguel: I'm going to forge ahead and give you links to the 13.04 versions, on the assumption that it probably doesn't matter anyway18:11
theSonGokuinstalled steam successfully, that you :)18:11
lysdexiaI'm in a bit of a pickle with logrotate and rsyslog. It appears that rsyslog is not releasing logfiles when logrotate attempts to create a new file. The newly renamed file then grows to fill the partition.18:11
lotuspsychje!yay | theSonGoku18:11
ubottutheSonGoku: Glad you made it! :-)18:11
oo_miguelRory: : http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/precise/main/installer-i386/current//images/netboot/boot.img.gz18:12
oo_miguelRory: this is the file I am using18:12
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lysdexiaThus far I've been able to simply move the file to a roomier partition, then restart rsyslog, which releases the file and allows the system to see the recovered space.18:12
Roryoo_miguel: http://packages.ubuntu.com/raring/all/ndiswrapper-common/download http://packages.ubuntu.com/raring/i386/ndiswrapper-utils-1.9/download http://packages.ubuntu.com/raring/i386/ndisgtk/download18:12
lysdexiaToday, that did not work.18:12
GreatBaconMACscr, are there any other devices on the network with this one?18:12
theSonGokuwell as I started to use ubuntu yesterday I was hoping for doing as much as possible with commands in the terminal..I am a little disappointed there is a way to get the most already done from ubuntu itself18:12
oo_miguelRory: you are an angel :)18:12
Roryoo_miguel: Then once you have them on a flash drive it's "sudo dpkg -i ndis*deb" but you knew that18:13
dot8Hi18:13
Roryhello dot818:13
lotuspsychjetheSonGoku: what you mean by that18:13
oo_miguelRory: thank you ver much18:13
RorytheSonGoku: That's a nice problem to have though18:14
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RorytheSonGoku: "it's too easy"18:14
MACscrGreatBacon: a dozen servers18:15
Guest96712Hey guys, how can I change my screen resolution in ubuntu?18:15
oc_hawktheSonGoku, you don't have to use a package manager with a GUI...you just need to learn apt-get better ;)18:15
dot8I have a problem with my grub at start up. grub freeze after i select a kernel.18:15
dot8I try boot-repair to fix it, but it does not fix my problem18:15
dot8I need help to get it running. I have efi system with crypto18:15
dot8Here is the log from boot-repair: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6204717/18:15
FloodBot1dot8: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.18:15
GreatBaconMACscr: are they all set to static?18:15
lotuspsychje!apt | theSonGoku18:15
ubottutheSonGoku: APT is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto - Also see !Synaptic (Gnome), !Muon (KDE) or !Apper (KDE)18:15
RoryGuest96712: Type "Displays" in the dash or click on the computer icon in the top right corner and select the second item in the menu.18:16
MACscroc_hawk: nope. Its just a regular server right now, nothign special about it. I have 2 other systems that were installed the same way that arent experiencing the issue. i have 4 nics on each server as well if that makes a diff18:16
MACscrbut again, setup the same way18:16
oc_hawkMACscr, do you have access to the DHCP server admin?  Maybe something else is staking claim to your desired IP address18:16
theSonGokuwell...there is a little story behind that I fastly gonna tell u..as I started my first apprenticeship I went to school and saw a classmate with unbelievable much knowledge of computers, networks and so on...he was sitting in front of his little 13 zoll linux laptop and was typing all in his console..that realy impressed me alot and I wanted to get to that point one day myself..thats why I was a little disappointed..I dont have any problem18:17
theSonGokus to work me through hard things...the opposite is the case..I just need a little knowledge I can work from :)18:17
oc_hawkMACscr, are you positive that the NIC you want the static IP address assigned to is the one that is in control?18:17
MACscroc_hawk: DHCP is only setup to give out ip addresses .255 through .254. The static ip is .10518:17
Guest96712hey guys, how can I change my screen resolution?18:17
MACscrer, .235 through .25518:17
oc_hawkMACscr, the static IP address is only assigned to 1 of the 4 NICs.  If one of the other 3 is the "master" it could be requesting an IP address from DHCP18:18
MACscroc_hawk: the static ip works fine for a couple hours until it randomly gets the dhcp address. Did you look at that hastebin outlout of the syslog?18:18
RoryGuest96712: Type "Displays" in the dash18:19
MACscrthe static ip and the dhcp address are both being assigned to the same nic18:19
oc_hawkMACscr, sorry, i did not see your hastebin link; do see it now18:20
Guest96712ok thank you, but can you please tell me what dash is because i am a newbie ;D18:20
tozenGuest96712: Super+F218:21
tozenGuest96712: or Win+F218:21
oc_hawkRory, did my `lspci -vvv` give you any more information?18:21
tozenGuest96712: sorry Alt+F218:22
Guest96712ty it works18:22
RoryGuest96712: I'd recommend having a quick read of this to familiarise yourself https://help.ubuntu.com/13.04/ubuntu-help/index.html18:23
kongthapi just got a power failure haft an hour ago, i can boot into desktop but i can do almost nothing, during booting i saw an error like "/tmp" is not present, when boot into desktop i got error like "read only file system", please guide me what to do?18:23
Roryoc_hawk: Honestly, no. Could you pastebin "sudo lsusb -v" for me?18:24
dot8someone who can help me?18:24
tozenkongthap: choose recovery mode in grub then tipe in mount -o remount,rw /18:24
grygHello, If I need to install os today, should I install ubuntu 13.10 or 13.04?18:25
kongthaptozen: i must re-boot right? and type your command...18:25
tozenkongthap: yes18:25
geniikongthap: Shut down properly, then choose recovery mode as tozen suggests, get to root console and issue fsck18:25
geniitozen: No remount,rw with fsck :)18:25
kongthaptozen: when boot using recovery mode i must choose to access shell with root right?18:25
dot8can you read me when floodbot comment my post?18:25
grygI know 13.10 will be released 17.10.2013 but it is in final beta18:26
Guest96712@Rory when i want to chose the different resolutions i can't change into 1920x...18:26
tozengryd i would suggest to install 12.04.3 LTS it's stable with long term support18:26
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Guest96712ok works ;)18:26
tozendot8: what the matter?18:26
kongthapgenii: i had tried to use fsck but via the recovery mode, i should execute that command again via shell???18:27
dot8 I have a problem with my grub at start up. grub freeze after i select a kernel.18:27
tozenkongthap: yes pal18:27
geniikongthap: When you ran it from the recovery, did it say it fixed the fs?18:27
dot8I try boot-repair to fix it, but it does not fix my problem18:27
dot8I need help to get it running. I have efi system with crypto18:27
oc_hawkRory, `sudo lsusb -v`: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6206096/18:27
dot8Here is the log from boot-repair: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6204717/18:27
kongthaptozen: all i have to type "mount -o remount, rw /" ????18:28
oo_miguelhow can I blacklist a specific module from the installers shell?18:28
kongthapgenii: i saw a message like do i wanna fix, and i pressed a keyboard to fix it18:29
tozenkongthap: yes!18:29
sasmit87Hi guys ..I am very new to ubuntu18:29
jason39828can someone aim me in the right direcection for installation help? (complete newbie)18:29
Roryoo_miguel: Looks like that's been truncated. Can you pastebin just "lsusb"18:29
Rory!install | jason3982818:29
ubottujason39828: Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall - See also !automate18:29
tozenkongthap: but without space just mount -o remount,rw /18:29
kongthaptozen: what between " " is exactly right, because i know nothing about the command??? :)18:30
kongthaptozen: ok ok :)18:30
jason39828already looked through18:30
oo_miguelRory: you mean me?18:30
tozenjonFriese: help.ubuntu.com18:30
Roryjason39828: Are you having a problem? How far have you got?18:30
Roryoo_miguel: Yes I want to see "sudo lsusb"18:30
sasmit87when I write command ll then one file is displaying * to its right side18:30
kongthaptozen: i will try that first and will come and ask again18:30
oc_hawkRory, are you actually talking to me?18:30
oo_miguelRory: there is no lsusb in the installers shell18:30
sasmit87when I write command ll then one file is displaying * to its right side. what does this means ??18:31
tozenkongthap: no probs should be ok18:31
oo_miguelRory: I am now working on the solution you suggested. Will tell you if it worked18:31
jason39828all the way to reboot after it says complete(dual with old xp sys)18:31
oo_miguelRory: the ndiswrapper thing18:31
bozz\q18:31
oo_miguelRory:  oc_hawk : I thhin Rory got confused with our nicknames ;)18:32
tozenjonFriese: so, what the problem you've got?18:32
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oc_hawkRory, non-verbose lsusb: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6206117/18:32
jason39828it lets me all the way back to log in them nothing18:32
sasmit87when I write the command ll then one file is displaying with * to its right side . what does this mean ?? sorry I m very new to ubuntu18:32
tozenjonFriese: so, trying to login you get drop back to logon screen or what?18:33
tozenjason39828: so, trying to login you get drop back to logon screen or what?18:34
OerHeksjason39828, dual boot with old xp, if you have a SATA hdd, your hdd controller in your bios might be set to IDE mode, change it to AHCI ( and after this xp won't  boot anymore) as linux needs AHCI mode.18:34
Roryoo_miguel: oc_hawk: you both got similar names lol sorry18:35
oc_hawkRory, oo_miguel lol18:35
jason39828so i wil have to choose one or the other?18:35
Roryoc_hawk: Honestly I can't even see which one is your wifi there. And I need to go eat dinner. If you summarise your problem on one line with both your "lspci" and "lsusb" pastebins hopefully someone else can help18:36
OerHeksjason39828, as XP does not have SATA controller drivers onboard during install, you need to change it yes18:36
oc_hawkRory, thanks for trying; i think we're in the same boat here...18:36
tozenRory: 7:36 dinner??? o_O :)18:36
oc_hawkRory, my wifi is not in lsusb; it is an internal component (not USB)18:37
xxroltsxxHello again, i just de installed Ubuntu 12.04 because wubi did not work like i wanted. So i had put the image on my usb, now i got this additional HDD to put linux on. I did not want Ubuntu to be on my Windows 7 HDD. (i had one laying so why not??) Now it is asking me to select a partition on the HDD to be used.. there is nothing on it and it is formated to Fat32. Now i just selected the max amount to be used. After that it said i had one partition und18:37
xxroltsxxer 2.5 GB and i had to change it.18:37
kongthaptozen: i ran "mount -o remount,rw /" i got nothing in response after pressing enter18:37
jason39828okay, thank you18:37
oo_miguelRory: oc_hawk: ;)18:38
tozenkongthap: shouldn't be18:38
xxroltsxxNow the only partition under 2.5 was the swap. I was not able to change it's amount.18:38
wilee-nileexxroltsxx: you have a need for the fat?18:38
xxroltsxxNo i thought it was essential for Ubuntu18:39
xxroltsxxI am not well informed :)18:39
kongthaptozen: i also ran ran fsck from the recovery screen this time i didn't display me any errors, just let me know it finish just press enter...18:39
oo_migueloc_hawk: I think that also internal components might manifest themselves in lsusb18:39
oo_migueloc_hawk: similarily many on-board chip (that are not pci cards) are in lspci18:39
xxroltsxxShould i make it 100% clean?18:39
kongthaptozen: any command line i can use to get info from the system, so i can tell you more info18:39
oc_hawkoo_miguel, no doubt, but not this one; it appears in lspci18:39
wilee-nileexxroltsxx: only on a usb for a live image an ext4 is the partition used on an install.18:40
oc_hawkthe device in question is this one: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6206148/18:40
kongthaptozen: i don't know what it is, just got message like read only file system, that's all18:40
jason39828will an older ver. of ubunto possably work with it...all im doing right now is trying to get familer with the system but dont really want to lose my windows yet18:40
oo_migueloc_hawk: I am struggling with my external usb network interface right now :(18:40
oc_hawkbut ubuntu is not recognizing it as wireless hardware18:40
tozenkongthap: still?18:40
xxroltsxxI see, so it would partition everything fully for me if i had nothing on it at all?18:40
oo_migueloc_hawk: the FIRST step is to recognize the device in lspci18:40
oo_migueloc_hawk: Can you find it there?18:41
kongthaptozen: yes still, and most app cannot be launch, still lucky x-chat can be launch18:41
oc_hawkoo_miguel, yep, that was that paste from lspci http://paste.ubuntu.com/6206148/18:41
wilee-nileexxroltsxx: yep, it would auto install,make sure it is the right HD.18:41
xxroltsxxYea, i was wondering if i had the right one at first hehe.18:41
kongthaptozen: how to comfirm that /tmp is ok or not??? any command???18:41
xxroltsxxThanks i'll try now.18:41
tozenkongthap: well. let get back so what you've done before? have you installed smth or deleted manually?18:42
oo_migueloc_hawk: A kernel driver was loaded too already. What does "ip addr show" give you?18:42
kongthaptozen: i don't know "smth" at all18:42
wizard_Awhen i try ssh to a server it giver a permission denied error18:42
kongthaptozen: i got a power failure...18:42
tekksounds silly... but... fresh install of ubuntu server... ssh selected at install time18:42
tekkbut sshd isn't running18:43
tekkand i've left the building foolishly18:43
tekkbut i have access to other machines on that LAN18:43
tekkanyway i can get in ?18:43
FloodBot1tekk: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.18:43
Rorytekk: No18:43
oc_hawkoo_miguel, `ip addr show`: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6206159/18:43
Rorywizard_A: Are you typing the correct password?18:43
geniitekk: Is 22 forwarded to that box?18:43
wizard_ARory: i'm not being prompted for the password.18:44
tozenkongthap: ok have you got livecd/usb?18:44
oo_migueloc_hawk: So your problem is that its eth0 instaed of wlan0 ?18:44
oo_migueloc_hawk: or ist eth0 another interface thats working fine?18:44
kongthaptozen: yes i have18:44
MACscroc_hawk: any ideas after looking at that log output?18:44
free_mindCan someone advise my what the best method is for copying a whole disk to a new one. dd is pretty slow... I've installed one ubuntu disk and need exactly the same install for another system. Current disk is setup with /boot on primary partion, and others are LVM.18:44
dot8is my question stupid or is it not the right channel to ask?18:44
MKCoinHow can I disable windows fading out when I close them? On 12.0418:44
oo_migueldot8: what is your question?18:44
bekksfree_mind: what was your exact dd command?18:45
oc_hawkoo_miguel, well, i had to track down a USB->ETH dongle so I could connect to here for support; the wired dongle isn't really my preferred means of using this tablet-like device ;)18:45
free_mindbekks: haven't used dd yet, cause is sector for sector --> slow!18:45
oc_hawkMACscr, Honestly, I don't know what that log was supposed to be showing...18:45
bekksfree_mind: then you did not read about the bs= option.18:45
dot8oo_miguel: my grub freeze after I selct a kernel: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6204717/18:45
bekksfree_mind: dd uses blocks, not sectors.18:46
lossI am able to ping gateway IP but I cant reach outside of our network. What do?18:46
free_mindbekks: so you're saying, dd can be pretty fast?18:46
bekksfree_mind: Correct.18:46
tozenkongthap: pop in then through livecd console tipe in <sudo fdisk -l> you'll see all your disk then try to check them with <sudo fsck -y -c -f /dev/sdXY> XY - your disks numbers18:46
geniitekk: If you're on a box on the same network segment and know it's ip you can try hopscotch in from there. If it's not responding on port 22 at that point then you know you have to go physically look at it.18:47
free_mindbekks: hmm... maybe a year ago my dd command wasn't the right one. So the key point to look into is bs?18:47
bekksfree_mind: Setting dd to use a blocksize that the smallest size of the cache sizes of the disks involved usually speeds up dd a lot. And replacing dd with mbuffer allows you to use your RAM as cache for the asynchronous I/O thats happening when reading from one disk and writing to another disk.18:47
oo_migueldot8: I would try #grub or similar complemenarely to this one.18:47
oc_hawkfree_mind, is this something you will be doing more often than once?  might i recommend clonezilla;  if just one time, use dd18:47
dot8oo_miguel: ok18:48
oo_migueloc_hawk: So your wlan interface does not show up at all...18:48
oc_hawkoo_miguel, you got it18:48
free_mindoc_hawk: thanks. I know the project, but this is a one timer... :)18:48
oo_migueloc_hawk: what does dmesg tell you about that18:48
kongthaptozen: first boot into lived cd, then open terminal and don't have to change to any directory right???18:48
kongthaptozen: then just type "sudo fidisk -l"18:49
oo_migueloc_hawk: when you plug in and unplug your "dongle"18:49
tozenkongthap: no18:49
tozenkongthap: uuups yes u r right18:49
free_mindbekks: thank you for explaining. Any pointer for a great howto on this subject?18:49
oc_hawkoo_miguel, the dongle is working...that is how i am talking to you now.  it is the wireless device built into this brand spanking new hardware that is not being recognized by ubuntu18:49
tozenkongthap: fdisk -l18:50
bekksfree_mind: http://www.maier-komor.de/mbuffer.html18:50
oo_migueloc_hawk: is this brand new wlan hardware listed in lspci or lsusb?18:50
kongthaptozen: after fdisk, i just type "sudo fsck -y -c- f /dev/sda5" (sorry i didn't spell check the fdisk thing)18:50
oc_hawkoo_miguel, it is in lspci18:50
oo_migueloc_hawk: the thing you posted right?18:51
kongthaptozen: do i need to fsck all partition or just only file system partition?18:51
tozenkongthap: yes as example sudo fsck -y -c -f /dev/sda118:51
oc_hawkoo_miguel, yes: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6206148/18:51
geniikongthap: All of them except the swap partition or windows partitions18:51
MACscroc_hawk: any ideas on what i should do to try to troubleshoot it? I dont get why my /etc/network/interfaces setting is not being respected?18:51
tozenkongthap: only main partition with a system installed18:51
kongthapgenii: ok18:52
oo_migueloc_hawk: does dmesg give you any information about what heppens during loading this module?18:52
kongthaptozen: i will try it and come back again,thanks18:52
oo_migueloc_hawk:  dmesg | grep mei_me18:52
airandfingerswhen i run "sudo service mongodb start" (ubuntu), the service doesn't actually start, but it works fine when i run the command from /etc/init/mongodb.conf: "sudo mongod -f /etc/mongodb.conf".. what's the difference?18:52
oc_hawkMACscr, my only suggestion isn't a very good one.  instead of having the client demand a static address, i would have the server assign a static address to that mac address18:53
oc_hawkoo_miguel, nada http://paste.ubuntu.com/6206194/18:53
chaotic_goodamazon not liek reiserFS18:54
chaotic_goodbaaastards18:55
MACscroc_hawk: i have a static ip assigned http://hastebin.com/hixifohape.vala18:55
oo_migueloc_hawk: I think that there should be some indication of the module beeing loaded inside dmesg, but I am admittedly dnot an expert on that topic..18:55
PistosHi.  I'm trying to install Ubuntu alongside a system that already has Windows and Gentoo on it.  I've gotten to the point of the DVD installer that says "Install Ubuntu alongside them".  I'm prompted to "Allocate drive space by dragging the divider below:"  This is great, except for the part that neither half of the division is labelled.  I have no idea which part will be Ubuntu, and which part free space.18:56
PistosCan anyone enlighten me?18:56
eerWhere is the xorg.conf located in Ubuntu?18:56
baggar11eer: /etc/X11/18:57
bschindlerHi - is there an "official" to get a newer nvidia driver than the 313 one?18:58
liquidmetalwhat's that gymnast movie where he's super unhappy even though he has everything. Then someone comes along to show him how to be happy within.18:58
oc_hawkMACscr, yeah, but that is on your client side, right?  I am saying that I would move that responsibility to your server that divvies out IP addresses.  when it sees your hardware in question, give it 192.168.0.10518:58
eerbaggar11, not under /usr/lib/X11/xorg.conf.d/ anymore?18:58
oc_hawkMACscr, but you are right, it should be respecting the static ip address18:58
OerHekseer standard you do not have a xorg.conf, make one if you needit18:59
oc_hawkeer, did you try `whereis xorg.conf`?18:59
PistosBasically this problem, I guess: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1814047&page=2&s=349482b0590b47c55369be3416eda0db19:00
tozen!offtop liquidmetal19:00
liquidmetalokay :(19:00
eerIf there isn't an xorg.conf file then where is all the configuration saved?19:00
tozenliquidmetal: #ubuntu-offtop :)19:00
joeykeyshey guys - is this the right place to ask about configuring ssl19:00
joeykeysor would that be in apache19:00
Ari-Yangeer: what ubuntu version are you on?19:01
liquidmetalpeaceful warrior, btw19:01
MACscroc_hawk: i get what your saying, but i find that doing static ip's through the dhcp server to be much riskier and higher chances of problems. Plus i dont get why this 1 server is behaving differently than all the other servers ive setup19:01
GreatBaconMACscr: when it losses the IP, does another device acquire it19:01
eerAri-Yang, 13.0419:01
MACscrGreatBacon: nope19:01
Ari-Yangeer: a xorg.conf file isn't needed nowadays... I thinks starting with 12.04 it was taken out19:02
Pistoshttp://askubuntu.com/questions/172866/installing-12-04-to-dual-boot-partitions-not-labeled19:02
oc_hawkMACscr, not sure i agree with you about riskier on server side but in general i hear you, it shouldn't be behaving differently; only thing i can think is that your eth1 is not #1 in the pecking order and eth0, eth2, or eth3 are beating it to the punch when it comes time to requesting an ip address19:04
MACscroc_hawk: but the dhcp address is being assigned to eth119:04
GreatBaconMACscr: the only other time I've seen stuff like this happen is when the interface or a port on the interface goes down.  Do you Logs show the interface up when losing the iP?19:04
oc_hawkMACscr, ah, did not realize that; only believed that system was being assigned a new ip; apologies for my confusion; long ways to get here, but "I don't know. Sorry"19:05
MACscrGreatBacon: what log would show that? What your seeing in the pastebin is exactly what im seeing in the syslog19:06
MKCoinphew19:07
MACscralso, notice that its repeating the same message every minute? seems nuts19:07
MACscrbasically every minute: Oct  5 19:16:52 ctrl1 dhclient: DHCPREQUEST of 192.168.0.239 on eth1 to 192.168.0.1 port 6719:07
MACscrif i restart the network service, it will go back to its static ip address19:08
MACscrthen maybe an hour later, it will start this again19:08
GreatBaconMACscr: I have seen that a lot, it happens with an IP loop and during a port flap19:08
MACscrshould i try changing out the cable or switch or port something? its an integrated nic19:09
MACscrer, switch port19:09
GreatBaconMACscr: yes, id start there19:09
GreatBaconCisco switch?19:10
MACscrbrocad19:10
MACscrbrocade19:10
PistosSerious problem, yeah: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/108454719:10
GreatBaconYeah19:10
ubottuUbuntu bug 947107 in ubiquity (Ubuntu Precise) "duplicate for #1084547 No partition labels in the resize widgets" [High,Triaged]19:10
GreatBaconMACscr: At NetApp when we had filers with that same problem, we often found something at the brocade switch (port flap usually) causing it19:13
GreatBaconMACscr: how many hops between this machine and the gateway?19:14
MACscr219:15
GreatBaconThe other hop another switch?19:15
MACscrserver, switch, gateway19:15
GreatBaconPlug directly in19:15
GreatBaconAre if the issue persists after that19:15
GreatBaconSee*19:16
GreatBaconSorry,  on tablet19:16
MACscri will plug it into another switch port. Its a 48 port switch19:16
GreatBaconRight,  sorry, if that doesn't work then go directly over19:17
MACscreven if the port has issues, why in the world would not still respect the static address?19:17
lilredhey guys, I accidentally bricked my Ubuntu partition19:19
lilredI don't have a question, just mentioning it19:19
fire__i am trying from long time, but still getting the same error i.e. you don't have permission to access /ubuntu on this server. i have setup a ubuntu mirror but i can't access it.19:19
swaagieTJ-: hmm got it working, just purged the shit out of all the gir1.2 libs and other offending packages now reinstalled tweak tool, gnome-shell etc and everything seems to be working properly, still have to restart though  :) fingers crossed19:20
polterlilred: how did you manage that?19:20
lilredpolter: I attempted merging /usr/bin and /bin manually, but something broke along the way19:20
polterlilred: yeah, that's risky business, messing around with /bin19:21
theSonGokuhow can I install java so that I can use java application on websites? as it wasnt in the USC I downloaded it by myself but cant figure out how to install it19:21
lilred"risky" is an understatement19:21
lilredtheSonGoku: what browser are you using?19:21
theSonGokuChrome19:21
MACscrGreatBacon: ah, just looked at the dhcp log on the dhcp server and its definitely showing the host as going down often19:22
GreatBaconMACscr: told ya,  Port flap19:22
lilredtheSonGoku: this probably isn't the easiest way, but here is what a quick google brought up: http://www.java.com/en/download/help/enable_browser_ubuntu.xml19:22
lilredtheSonGoku: even better http://askubuntu.com/questions/155852/installing-chrome-java-plugin19:23
GreatBaconMACscr: start by verifying all physical Connectivity make sure no lose connections19:23
wilee-nileetheSonGoku, what happened to the it's to easy, huh. ;)19:23
GreatBaconThen reseat any involved interface card if you can19:24
GreatBaconConnected by fiber or copper19:24
GreatBacon?19:24
MACscrGreatBacon: its integrated, so cant reseat. Im noticing though that all the flapping happened while i was asleep and the system was idel. I wonder if there could somehow be some sort of power saving mode going on19:25
tessarakthow do I configure which Framebuffer is used on Ubuntu 13.04?19:25
MACscrcopper19:25
MACscridle19:25
MACscrso as soon as i logged in this morning, it hasnt happened since then19:25
lilredanyone has experience with merging /usr/bin and /bin? I'd like to know where I should be looking19:25
GreatBaconMACscr: those copper lines running overhead by florescent lights?19:25
Dr_Willislilred:  why do you need to do that?19:26
MACscrnope19:26
GreatBaconMACscr: yes,  power saving coff be it to19:26
lilredDr_Willis I want to have all my applications mounted on my SSD19:26
GreatBaconMACscr: can you verify the bios isn't shutting down the cards?19:27
Dr_Willislilred:  so put /usr/bin on the ssd?  and use a soft link to point it where its supposed to be?  you dont want to merge the 2 directories19:27
theSonGokuok just doing what lilred posted as second possibility because the first one didnt work..even though I dont realy understand what I am doing^^19:27
Ben64lilred: why not have everything but /home on ssd?19:27
lilredBen64: because it's too small19:27
free_mindbekks: "Setting dd to use a blocksize that the smallest size of the cache sizes of the disks involved" How can I find the optimal cache size of the ssd hd's?19:27
Dr_Willislilred:  and whats the size of the ssd?19:27
eerIf I start a new display with startx -- :1 it will be available on control+alt+F8, right?19:28
Dr_Willisi dident think you wanted to use dd to write to ssd's  (not sure why but ive herd this befor)19:28
bekksfree_mind: check the make and model of your disks using smartctl -a19:28
Dr_Williseer:  thats how it normally works yes.19:28
theSonGokuok, second one worked :)19:28
eerBut if I run 2 GUIs at the same time, won't the programs running in those GUIs interfere with the programs in the other GUI?19:29
eerI mean some programs lock files19:29
Dr_Williseer:  depends on the program.19:29
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eerWhat would be an applicatoin to run 2 GUIs?19:29
Dr_Willisif ran by differnt users. no issues.. ran by the same issue - couldbe.19:29
TJ-swaagie: Great to hear :)19:30
Dr_Willisyou run whatever winow manager, or desktop you want on the second x session.19:30
eerJust trying to think of a scenario where it would make sens to start another display via startx -- :119:30
Dr_Williseer:  testing out a 2nd window manager, or desktop on a 2nd monitor. Multi seat setups. running xbmc on a 2nd monitor..19:31
eerSo I could run KDE on F7 and Gnome on F8?19:31
Dr_Williseer:  yes - you can run 2 differnt desktops.19:31
eerHow?19:31
Dr_Willisstart the 2n session, tell it to run kde. (or gnome)19:31
eerHow do I start Gnome in F8?19:31
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eerI run KDE in F719:32
eerBoth are installed, though.19:32
tessaraktIs nouveaufb available on Ubuntu?19:32
Dr_Williseer:  checked askubuntu.com yet? they most likely show the proper wya to do that these days. last i did similer was perhaps 8+ yers ago - i think lightdm can automate it these days19:32
wilee-nilee!find nouveaufb19:33
Dr_Williseer:  startx reads what to run from the .xinitrc or .xsession - but im not sure what command starts kde these days. used to be 'startkde'19:33
RalliasWith upstart, how would I set it to run when a specific volume group is shut down?19:33
ubottuPackage/file nouveaufb does not exist in raring19:33
eerok19:34
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eerthx19:34
free_mindbekks: Kingston SV300S37A120G -- Can't find any cache value, not even on www.kingston.com/us/ssd/v#sv300s319:36
joeykeyshey guys trying to set up https & ssl on a server that hosts several domains19:36
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joeykeyscan someone tell me if in my ports.conf file i should do NameVirtualHost myip:44319:37
joeykeys*:44319:37
tessaraktargs - nouveau was blacklisted in /etc/modprobed.conf/nvidia-current-updates_hybrid.conf ...19:37
Dr_Willisinstalling the nvidia driver  would blacklist the noveau modules/driver19:39
bekksfree_mind: it has 256M cache.19:39
free_mindbekks: Where did you find that .. :)19:39
bekksfree_mind: first google result ;)19:39
Dr_Willishard drives got more cache - then what my first pcs had in ram... by a factor of like 1000x ;)19:40
joeykeysweajesus this room is just status of quits and joins19:40
joeykeyscant ready anything19:40
free_mindbekks: I looked at kingston own website and offcource I'm using ddg.gg :)19:40
Dr_Willisjoeykeys:  this is why most people disable the showing of part/join messages in their irc client19:40
joeykeysusing a webclient unfortunately =\19:41
joeykeysdr_willis: any experience setting up ssql?19:41
Dr_Willisjoeykeys:  the freenode webclient has the feature in its settings19:41
joeykeysssl*19:41
Dr_Willisjoeykeys:  no real experience with ssh.19:41
free_mindbekks: so which value would you advice to set bs? bs=256M ?19:41
Dr_Willisssl i mean. ;)19:41
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Dr_Willisfree_mind:  any bs size over 8mb of so - is a bit over kill from what ive heard. but at least you are not going real crazy and trying 1GB :)19:42
bekksfree_mind: do you have two identical drives?19:44
free_mindbekks: yes.19:44
bekksfree_mind: I'd set something like 16M or 32M19:45
free_mindDr_Willis: http://serverfault.com/questions/4906/using-dd-for-disk-cloning the first post says 32M works fine (for this guy)19:45
free_mindbekks: okay, will give it a shot. What speedup can I expect (do you guess)?19:46
bekksfree_mind: thats hard, quite impossible, to guess.19:46
free_mindbekks: never mind then. Thanks a lot for your input.19:47
free_mindalso to Dr_Willis ... :)19:48
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kriskropdanyone know of some stock watching/info programs for bash? I get the feeling anyone looking for such things just end up curling yahoo or google finance and then building their own interface :/19:57
wadieI don't have video display neither on vlc nor on movie player. I'm on unity 2d and works fine on 3d.19:59
OerHekskriskropd, those bash plugins are called lenses, i find stock watch  & more http://iloveubuntu.net/unity-stock-quotes-lens-07-released-previews-support20:01
chaotic_goodso20:02
Dr_Williswadie:  in the vlc settings they have differnt types of 'display rendering' options i recall. could be the default is quirky with your setup20:02
tim-cthi all20:02
GreatBaconHi tim20:02
chaotic_goodwho here uses fastCGI or scgi for web stuff on ubnutu?20:02
kriskropdOerHeks: I see you've confused bash with unity :)20:02
wadieDr_Willis : it's not working on movie player either20:02
wadieI only hear audo20:02
wadieaudio20:02
Dr_Williswadie:  is this for ALL videos? or just the one?20:03
wadieall videos20:03
|PiP|`what is the environment variable for temporary folder path?20:03
Dr_Williswadie:  run vlc from a terminal,. play a video. look for errors/info messages in the terminal20:03
Dr_Williswadie:  and find some nice generic mp4 video to test with. (like a youtube grab)20:03
Dr_Williscould be a codec/drm issue20:03
Dr_Willisbbl20:03
wadieit's not a codec issue..something related to drivers or unity20:04
tim-cti am run 12.04 with 2 nics Everytime i reboot the machine the eth0 and 1 swop round. Any ideas on how to stop me20:04
wadiebecause it works on unity 3d20:04
Dr_Williswadie:  then explore the video settings ares in vlc.  the perferances->videosettings -> output has a pulldown20:04
GreatBaconTim: can you clarify that please?20:05
airandfingerswhen i run "sudo service mongodb start" (ubuntu), the service doesn't actually start, but it works fine when i run the command from /etc/init/mongodb.conf: "sudo mongod -f /etc/mongodb.conf".. what's the difference?20:05
OerHekskriskropd, oh i see, like linuxtrade > http://linuxtrade.rkkda.com/ (this one is in the repos http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/hardy/en/man1/linuxtrade.1.html )20:06
GreatBaconAirandfingers: the difference is the directory it's run from.  Did you ensure the path was exported?20:06
tim-ctnow eth0 is 192.168.0.1 and eth1 is 10.0.0.1 after a reboot its eth0 10.0.0.1 and eth1 is 192.168.0.120:06
sam113101HELP20:06
sam113101HELPPPPP20:06
Picisam113101: No one can help unless you ask a question.20:07
kriskropdOerHeks: :o not what i was looking for but I am interested in that find, thank you for sharing :)20:07
sam113101rhythmbox is broken20:07
sam113101(rhythmbox:30935): Rhythmbox-CRITICAL **: Timeout was reached20:07
GreatBaconTim: are they dynamically or statically assigned?  Are the NICs teamed?20:07
tim-ctstatic20:08
sam113101tim-ct: happened to me once20:08
DeathTonehey20:08
sam113101hey20:08
GreatBacontim: NIC teaming them or no?20:08
DeathToneto install ubunto.iso on an old hard drive, i just put the iso on a flash drive, and boot from that?20:09
tim-ctno20:09
DeathToneok20:09
bekksDeathTone: From the flash drive. And how do you "put ubuntu.iso on a flash drive"?20:09
tim-ctsam113101: what did u do20:09
DeathTonewat20:09
DeathToneok nvm i think i got it20:10
sam113101DeathTone: you can't just drop the file on it20:10
sam113101tim-ct: I had to assign them manually I think20:10
DeathToneso what do i do20:10
DeathTonehow do i format my flash drive20:10
tim-ctmine are static20:10
DeathTone& can i use it as a regular flash drive later?20:10
sam113101DeathTone: use dd20:10
k1lDeathTone: you can dd the iso onto that usbstick20:10
k1lDeathTone: or use the usb-creator20:10
sam113101DeathTone: no, you'll have to remove the iso from it20:11
sam113101or you could partition it I guess20:11
altuninТут че? Все не Русские?20:11
tim-ctsam113101: how about loading mac address20:11
sam113101!ru20:11
ubottuПожалуйста наберите /join #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке. | Pozhalujsta naberite /join #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke.20:11
kasadCan you recommend which version/flavor ubuntu would be sutiable for DELL Latitude 2100 (netbook)20:11
xsiHow to insert a dot into a file every after every n-th character? (every 3500 char)20:12
kasad*is suitable20:12
GreatBaconxsi: out of scope of this channel,  but use regex20:12
MonkeyDustxsi  ask in #bash20:12
ochawkeye_DeathTone, might I suggest checking out http://www.pendrivelinux.com/universal-usb-installer-easy-as-1-2-3/20:13
xsigreatbacon regex?20:13
ochawkeye_DeathTone, from a windows machine I have not found an easier way of making a bootable USB live "CD"20:13
GreatBaconxsi, in #bash they may help you put together a script with regex20:14
kasadanyone can recommend which version of ubuntu would run reasonably fast on DELL Latitude 210020:14
kasad(netbook)20:14
Calinouxubuntu 13.0420:15
Calinoulubuntu 13.04 if you want even lighter20:15
kasadthanks20:15
vltxsi: with "sed" maybe, or "dd" and "echo"20:15
Calinouxubuntu is more featureful though :p20:15
kasadit's needed for some surfing, text proccessing and thats about it20:15
kasadmaybe listen to some music/watch a video20:15
kasadno need for other software20:16
kasadanyway, thanks Calinou20:16
Calinouno problem20:16
kasad<320:16
free_mindbekks: I did put 'time' in front of my dd command: 497.032 s (8.5 minutes) / 242 MB/s. Pretty fast I think. :-)20:20
free_mindbs=32M20:21
iROCKnROLLAAny suggestions for an ideal desktop hardware manufacture to be used for an Ubuntu only call-center setup?20:22
wylde!hardware | iROCKnROLLA20:23
ubottuiROCKnROLLA: For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport - To help debugging and improving hardware detection, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingHardwareDetection20:23
geniiiROCKnROLLA: Probably something from the list at http://www.ubuntu.com/certification/desktop/20:24
d1g1ta1__ Are the problems with drives > 2TB limited to Windows and MBR [assuming new hardware that supports EFI/UEFI] or are there cases where Linux may have problems with full-drive single partitions on 3TB+ drives?20:24
ochawkeye_iROCKnROLLA, I can't imagine it's a serious question, but I'll say https://www.system76.com/20:25
k1liROCKnROLLA: talk to canonical for specific support, if it comes to business stuff20:26
GreatBaconDigital: are you doing hardware raid or software raid20:29
iROCKnROLLAwill do, thx20:29
GreatBaconDigital: to answer your question, yes the limitation goes away when you use GPT instead of MBR20:31
I2chelpHi guys, I've purchased a 2 digit 7 segment display which runs off i2c only requiring two pin connections..., however, no idea how to get it to run. Lots of googling and nothing!! Any help?20:31
GreatBaconGRUB2 addresses this20:31
I2chelpAnyone know of any links to similar device I can modificy20:33
ni395442hello20:34
GreatBaconHi20:34
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novice_metapodhow do I check my version of unity? what's the syntax?20:36
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geniinovice_metapod: unity --version20:37
novice_metapodgenii, thanks20:38
Austinhello20:39
GreatBaconHeya20:39
Austindose anybody here know how to install ubuntu 13.04 onto a flash drive from a flash drive20:39
Austinik its confusing20:40
altuninесть русские?20:40
MonkeyDust!ru20:41
ubottuПожалуйста наберите /join #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке. | Pozhalujsta naberite /join #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke.20:41
genii!ru | altunin20:41
ubottualtunin: please see above20:41
Austin!install20:42
ubottuUbuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall - See also !automate20:42
kingnick42trying to install software, the repos are god awfully slow20:45
kingnick42any ideas why?20:45
kingnick42I've tried the main server, the marshall islands one, and the nz ones20:46
GreatBaconKingnick: when you traceroute to it where do you see the latency,  inside or outside your network20:47
kingnick42GreatBacon, how does one traceroute?20:47
GreatBaconKingnick: traceroute [options] host20:48
max_xamI broke my Ubuntu again20:49
fishcooker1how to change timezone from cli?20:49
max_xamloaded nvidia drivers , now it only goes in to the command prompt20:49
kingnick42GreatBacon, I'd need to install treaceroute to find that out20:49
kingnick42and right now, repos are too slow really to install anything20:50
kingnick42as an example, I ran a sudo apt-get update20:50
kingnick42its still updating. Has been for the last 10 mins20:50
kingnick42while steam is installing at a nice 400-600kbs20:51
max_xamhow do i connect to the internet on the commandline with a wireless modem?20:51
max_xamifconfig wlan0 up?20:51
GreatBaconKingnick: that isn't normal,  did you check with your ISP for known issues affecting users in your area?20:51
kingnick42GreatBacon, no internet issues around. Its just me when I try to contact the Ubuntu repos in some way20:52
fishcooker1http://paste.ubuntu.com/6206690/20:52
kingnick42I'll try another set of repos after this, but all the ones I've tried so far have had the same problem20:52
fishcooker1is there any alternatif rather than reinstall it?20:53
max_xam*reaches for windows disc20:53
kingnick42GreatBacon, its just finished the sudo apt-get update. Took  19mins 48secs20:54
fishcookerhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/6206690/20:54
fishcookeris there any alternatif rather than reinstall it?20:54
GreatBaconKingnick: The good news is Ubuntu isn't causing the latency.  Are you on a business class connection,  or personal?20:57
jhutchinsfishcooker: You haven't given us much to go on.  We don't know what release you are on, what command you ran, or what else the output said.  My WAG would be you need to do an fsck.20:57
mn3na3acan anyone tell me how to change the default file manager for ubuntu 12.04?20:58
kingnick42GreatBacon, I'm on a home connection, so personal20:58
kingnick42connected via ethernet (as I know Ubuntu is a little didgy with this wireless card)20:58
fishcookersorry jhutchins: revised one http://paste.ubuntu.com/6206729/21:00
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kingnick42GreatBacon, looks like whatever was causing it has stopped? Same repo, same command, only took 3mins21:02
kingnick42so hopefully it is sorted now21:02
CaelumI posted a comment on why the synctex plugin is missing from gedit-plugins on the bug page: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gedit-plugins/+bug/1165742?comments=all21:03
ubottuUbuntu bug 1165742 in gedit-plugins (Ubuntu) "Synctex plugin was not built in raring" [Low,Fix released]21:03
fishcookerhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/6206738/ the latest output21:04
Caelumwow, your system is really f*d21:04
fishcookerwhat makes that happen Caelum21:05
Caelumdid you delete any system directories?21:05
jhutchinsfishcooker: I still think you need to do shutdown -Fr now and check the disk, but first make sure there is enough free space on it.  It looks like a) debconf may be corrupt, and b) some part of your filesystem is missing.21:07
Caelumcould someone please change the status of that bug to something other than 'fix released' because it's not fixed yet21:09
fuesiufeAMD HD 7700, AMD Catalyst Center need administrative rights to set someting, Shortcut "AMD Catalyst Control Center (Administrative)" prompts for root password, no matter what i type, root or user password, i just seems to go away and that's it21:09
fuesiufe*it just21:09
fishcookeryes  i've missing this file /var/lib/dpkg/available this is what i get from the last apt-get installing command http://paste.ubuntu.com/6206766/21:13
iverson0881Hi, i'm using upstart 1.5 on ubuntu 12.04lts, and i am unable to set file descriptors beyond 4096, which i beleive is set in /etc/dbus-1/session.conf21:13
iverson0881i tried creating a session-local.conf file with an increased maximum number, however I'm unable to do get it to be overriden for user jobs21:14
iverson0881for example: <limit name="max_message_unix_fds">32768</limit>21:14
fishcookeryes Caelum it this bug fixed but https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/70504 but i dont have the file anymore http://paste.ubuntu.com/6206770/21:15
monstanyone able to look at a stacktrace of a kernel panic and help me diagnose it?21:16
Caelumfishcooker: did you delete available-old too?21:17
Caelumoh yeah21:18
anon505345hey does anyone know how to stop ubuntu from trying to automatically adjust the brightness on a laptop? There's a light sensor and ubuntu is trying to use it and it's annoying21:18
Caelumfishcooker: why don't you backup your files and reinstall21:19
Caelumfishcooker: that will probably be the easiest for you21:19
ochawkeye_trying with a new batch of helpers :)  i have a sony vaio duo 13 with a BCM43241.  device is detected by 'lspci' but not as a network device by 'lshw' http://paste.ubuntu.com/6206781/ (device detected is a USB->Ens?TH adapter I have plugged in). Any suggestio21:20
monst@anon505345 http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=958623&p=6064038#post606403821:20
Caelumochawkeye_: broadcom? some of those need special binary drivers21:20
Caelummonst: there's a #kernelnewbies channel somewhere (not this network) they should be able to help21:21
ochawkeye_Caelum, any arrows to point in the direction of said binary drivers?21:22
monsthmm21:22
monstirc.oftc.net21:22
Caelummonst: ah it's #kernelnewbies on oftc21:22
monst=)21:22
monstCaelum: thans21:23
monstthanks21:23
wting_I restarted and now Ubuntu box won't resolve DNS. All other devices on the same network are working fine.21:25
Caelumochawkeye_: says you may need firmware here: http://wireless.kernel.org/en/users/Drivers/brcm8021121:25
wting_I can visit a web sites just fine via IP (e.g. google: http://74.125.225.227/)21:26
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calimero_82hello guys, someone does use wine or playonlinux?21:32
fishcookeryes my system fu*.. i've seen the command #rm -rf /var/lib/dpkg/available Caelum jhutchins21:33
fishcookerthat the bad news my partner did that last night21:34
FloodBot1!netsplit21:34
ubottunetsplit is when two IRC servers of the same network (like freenode) disconnect from each other, so users on one server stop seeing users on the other. If this is happening now, just relax and enjoy the show. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netsplit21:34
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OerHeksfishcooker sudo dpkg --clear-avail && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade21:37
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yansHello people21:41
schnitzlhi. what is a nice way to autorun scripts on a server. do i have to use rc.local ?21:42
repudiateschnitzl: I'm not sure.21:42
schnitzlrepudiate,  how can i change that?21:42
jrib!startup |  schnitzl21:42
ubottuschnitzl: To add programs to start up when you log into your Gnome session go to System>Preferences>Sessions and use the Startup Programs tab. For more information, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AddingProgramToSessionStartup - See !boot for starting non-interactive programs at boot21:42
schnitzljrib, ...server. no gnome.21:43
jribschnitzl: /msg ubottu !boot21:43
geniijrib: Server :)21:43
jribschnitzl: the "right" way is to create an upstart script if it's a service21:43
schnitzldoes this work just as init.d jrib ?21:44
jribschnitzl: no21:44
schnitzlaw :(21:44
jribschnitzl: well what exactly did you mean? Upstart is different than sysv but upstart still calls the sysv-style scripts you place in init.d if you choose to put one there21:45
hombreewhi21:45
schnitzljrib,  okay...let me ask different: where is the disadvantage to use rc.local21:46
schnitzljrib, i want to execute a simple .sh script via rc.local. but it seems not to work. and i have no idea why.21:46
jribschnitzl: if it's a service, then you can't manipulate it (start, stop, status, restart etc.) if you just put it in rc.local21:47
jribschnitzl: but give more details... what script? what does it look like? what does rc.local look like?21:48
schnitzlno its no server. its droopy, you know, that very tiny and easy uplaod http server.21:48
hombreewI have an old laptop running ubuntu hooked up like a media pc, its nice to vnc to it to control it. is there a way to start an xsession on the actual computer from a remote ssh shell? its not nice to have to open the lid and login with the actual laptop then start x11vnc (* remember, actual tv output desired, only vnc not enough, seems like I need REAL xsession)21:48
jrib"its no server" "server" *confused*21:48
schnitzllol sorrry jrib !! :D   no service**21:49
schnitzlits no service. its just a small sh script. look i will explain the whole story for you. give me a sec.21:49
jribschnitzl: still sounds like a service :)21:49
ThreeFourThreeHey guys, any idea where I can get help on installing Ubuntu? I'm getting a Syslinux 4.04 message on boot and it hangs up there, and I've tried a few different versions; none have worked.21:49
enthdegreehello everyone. My system does not boot to linux after a successful installation. I think it is due to it having been installed configured as GPT when it's in an MBR/BIOS environment21:50
schnitzljrib, i want to start a game server via rc.local. after that a droopy and then folderwatch. it can move files after they are uplaoded into a folder, the idea is, that ppl can push maps to the server without bugging me, and the folderwatcher moves the files to the game folder.21:50
enthdegreehere is my partition setup: http://hastebin.com/nenajumoto.hs21:50
ThreeFourThreeTrying to boot off a USB, if that helps21:50
enthdegreeThreeFourThree: what21:51
GreatBaconenthdegree: do you have an error associated with this issue?21:51
enthdegreeNo, the screen just goes black21:51
ThreeFourThreeenthdegree: Been trying to install Ubuntu off a USB key, but I'm getting a SYSLINUX 4.04 message each time21:51
schnitzljrib, this is my rc local http://pastebin.com/NyqtF4Dj21:52
schnitzlgetting an idea?21:52
wyldeschnitzl: doesn't sound like something you want running as root. Also, will the gameserver not need a reload/restart after the addition of a map?21:52
schnitzlyea. thats what folderwatch can do.21:52
schnitzlthis is folderwatch http://pastebin.com/nYUWsBG221:53
jribschnitzl: the "right" way is to set this up in upstart.  But if you want to troubleshoot, then it's probably a PATH issues.  Check logs and consider redirecting stdout and stderr to some file21:53
schnitzlupstart..never worked with that....always sounded weird.21:54
HyperCrushHey all. I know this is off topic but is there a channel for Electrical engineering? I have questions about PMOS and NMOS21:54
k1l!alis | HyperCrush21:54
ubottuHyperCrush: alis is a services bot that can help you find channels. Read "/msg alis help list" for help and ask any questions about it in #freenode. Example usage: /msg alis list #ubuntu* or /msg alis list *http*21:54
schnitzlso you suggest to create a new user for that?21:54
HyperCrushthanks21:55
SazpaimonI'm trying to configure my machine to connect to multiple openvpn servers at and route requests to them as a round robin. How can I accomplish this?21:55
mapper99Quick question:  What are the major differences between Ubuntu Server and Ubuntu Desktop?21:55
hawk_Hello, I know Python and I want to contribute to ubuntu developer community but I dont know from where I should start . Please help21:57
jrib!contribute | hawk_22:00
ubottuhawk_: To contribute and help out with Ubuntu, see http://community.ubuntu.com and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ContributeToUbuntu22:00
hawk_ubottu : Thanks Sir22:02
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jmgkhello22:05
Iwaneezhi guys. I have an external monitor and ubuntu 13.04 installed with latest legacy driver for my ati 4570 graphic card. I used VGA connection but sometimes the monitor was flashy and wheezy(only on ubuntu, on windows 7 it was ok). So i switched to HDMI. And my problem: As I used VGA there were about 5pixels from notebook screen overlaping into my monitor on the left. Luckily there was a customization in amdccle driver and i moved the screen to the left and22:06
Darkmganyone in here help with OOP with UML, or know what channel I should be in?22:17
thewhathello ubunt world22:17
thewhat*ubuntu22:17
GreatBaconhi thewhat22:18
thewhatwell I wanna install ubuntu on hard drive,I wanna ask if it is stable? did u had to reinstall it after?22:19
GreatBaconthewhat: The versions supported in this channel are stable and mature.22:20
thewhatI like it and I wanna use it on my hard drive GreatBacon22:20
thewhatI have tried liveUSB version22:21
GreatBaconthewhat: If you want to start installing, I'll be here to help if you run into a problem.22:21
thewhatwow thank you very much for your support22:21
GreatBaconthewhat: It's no problem at all22:21
dwarderi run wubi from iso, why it downloads anything?22:23
dwarderis it supposed to do so?22:23
Mixxitcan anyone help me fix mysql-server22:29
Mixxitstart mysql returns nothing22:29
Mixxitservice mysql start also gives me nothing22:29
Dr_Williswhats the exact command you are using?22:30
Mixxitthat22:30
Dr_Willisno sudo?22:30
Mixxitim already root22:30
Dr_Willistry service mysqlwhtever status22:31
Mixxiti tried to look at the init.d script but i have no clue what this upstart stuff is22:31
Mixxitnothing from that command22:31
GreatBaconMissit: can you ensure your path to mysqld is exported22:31
GreatBaconMixxit*22:31
Dr_Willis!upstart22:31
ubottuUpstart is meant to replace the old Sys V Init system with an event-driven init model.  For more information please see: http://upstart.ubuntu.com/22:31
Mixxitdeclare -x PATH="/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/games:/usr/local/games"22:32
Mixxiti have that when i type export22:32
Dr_Willisstatus option should return somthing22:32
Mixxitjust goes to next line dr_willis22:32
RoryMixxit: What is the output of "sudo service mysql-server status"22:32
Mixxiti can type mysqld and it will start though, albeit with no output22:32
RoryMixxit: How did you install it?22:32
Mixxitmysql-server: unrecognized service22:32
Mixxitapt-get install mysql-server is how i installed it22:32
Dr_Willishow did you 'become root' also?22:32
Mixxiti did sudo su22:32
Dr_Willisexit that out22:33
Rory!root | Mixxit22:33
ubottuMixxit: Do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth... there is no root password. Then you will see that it is 'sudo' that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo22:33
RoryMixxit: How did you install it?22:33
Dr_Willisback to a normal user and just use 'sudo service22:33
Mixxiti did apt-get install mysql-server22:33
Dr_Willisand the rest of the options.22:33
Mixxitnothing from sudo service mysql status22:33
Dr_Willissudo service --status-all     (i think does it for all services)22:34
RoryMixxit: If you type " sudo ps aux | grep mys[q]l " do you see any output?22:34
Mixxitnothing22:34
RoryOK so it isn't running22:34
Mixxit(rory)22:34
RoryMixxit: sudo service mysql start22:34
Mixxitreturns no output rory22:34
GreatBaconMixxit: what is your output of which mysqld22:35
RoryMixxit: What's the output of the command: whoami22:35
Mixxitwhich mysqld : /usr/sbin/mysqld22:35
Mixxitwhoami : mike22:35
RoryMixxit: What about "sudo /etc/init.d/mysql status"22:36
Mixxitoutput for 'sudo service --status-all | more ' http://pastebin.com/eh7e8Kix22:36
jribRory, Mixxit: I have no context as I haven't read scrollback but if something seems really odd, consider if apparmor is enabled22:37
Mixxitoutput for sudo /etc/init.d/mysql status - http://pastebin.com/22:37
RoryMixxit: try again22:37
jribMixxit: nice websiet22:37
Mixxithttp://pastebin.com/5eGt16CK22:37
Mixxitlol sorry :-)22:37
RoryPerhaps your computer is haunted22:38
jribhave you guys checked logs?22:38
Mixxitthey're empty22:38
Mixxitfirst thing i checked22:38
jribMixxit: what are you checking exactly?22:38
Mixxit/var/log/mysql.err and /var/log/mysql.log22:38
Mixxiti dont get why i can just type mysqld though and it starts22:38
RoryMixxit: sudo apt-get install --reinstall mysql-server22:38
Mixxitbeen there but ok :-)22:39
RoryMixxit: Can you pastebin the output?22:39
jribMixxit: you never answered me about apparmor22:39
Mixxitoutput:  -22:39
Mixxithttp://pastebin.com/jtwj1x3X22:39
Mixxitwhats apparmor? ;-)22:39
Dr_Willis!apparmour22:39
Dr_Willis!apparmor22:39
ubottuFor information about the AppArmor security framework employed in Ubuntu (since Gutsy Gibbon), see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AppArmor22:39
Dr_Willisa security thang. ;)22:40
Mixxitmike@vmd3176:/var/log$ sudo apparmor_status22:40
Mixxitsudo: apparmor_status: command not found22:40
Mixxitguess its not installed22:40
jribMixxit: erm.  What os are you using?22:40
Mixxitubuntu22:40
RoryMixxit: cat /etc/issue22:40
jribMixxit: what version and how was it installed?22:40
Mixxitdeb http://de.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ raring main restricted universe multiverse22:40
Mixxitis my sources.list22:41
Mixxitim not sure the provider set it up22:41
RoryMixxit: What is the output of "cat /etc/issue"22:41
jribone of those...22:41
GreatBacon^22:41
MixxitUbuntu 13.04 \n \l22:41
jribMixxit: pastebin your /etc/init/mysql.conf22:42
RoryMixxit: Can you pastebin the contents of the file: /etc/init.d/mysql22:42
RoryMixxit: do jrib's first22:42
Mixxitrightio22:42
Mixxithttp://pastebin.com/4UJUBGfn22:42
Mixxitthe init.d/mysql i had no clue22:43
Mixxithttp://pastebin.com/a6Xgr0Cf22:43
Mixxitsorry i had to paste that in sections i think i got it all22:44
Rory!pastebinit | Mixxit in future22:45
ubottuMixxit in future: pastebinit is the command-line equivalent of !pastebin - Command output, or other text can be redirected to pastebinit, which then reports an URL containing the output - To use pastebinit, install the « pastebinit » package from a package manager - Simple usage: command | pastebinit -b http://paste.ubuntu.com22:45
Mixxitwow22:45
Mixxitthats neat!22:45
RoryVery22:45
GreatBaconMixxit: it has an apparmor profile, /lib/init/apparmor-profile-load22:45
GreatBacondidn't you say apparmor isn't running?22:45
Mixxitaye22:45
GreatBaconre-install without the profile22:45
Mixxithow do i do that?22:46
Mixxiti've never heard of apparmor before22:46
jribMixxit: it's like selinux22:46
Mixxitwho with the what now22:46
jribMixxit: did mysql ever work for you?  (using the init script)22:47
Mixxitno22:47
Mixxitit did work when i typed mysqld though22:47
jribMixxit: do you have /lib/init/apparmor-profile-load?22:47
Mixxitaye22:48
jribMixxit: i still find it odd that your logs are empty.  Did you mess with mysql's config at all?22:48
Mixxiti did change it to port 330722:49
Mixxitbut its set back now22:49
Mixxit'mysqld' started fine though with 330722:49
jribMixxit: for fun, comment the apparmor line and see what happens22:49
Mixxitwhere is that22:49
jribMixxit: in /etc/init/mysql.conf22:50
Mixxitoh the pre-start22:50
Mixxitjut that line yeah?22:50
jribMixxit: aye22:50
Mixxitrightio22:50
jribMixxit: it will at least rule out apparmor22:50
GreatBaconMixxit: http://pastebin.com/4UJUBGfn line 2222:50
jribi think22:50
jribmaybe not22:50
Mixxitno output on service mysql start22:50
Mixxitnope :(22:51
Mixxitsadly22:51
jribMixxit: how are you checknig?22:51
Mixxitim doing service mysql status22:52
Mixxitalso trying mysql to connect to it22:52
jribMixxit: what's in your /etc/mysql?22:52
Mixxithttp://pastebin.com/TmDxTx4R22:53
GreatBaconMixxit: just for kicks, can you tell me if the output of 'sudo service apparmor reload' contains a reference to mysql?22:53
Mixxitapparmor: unrecognized service22:53
GreatBaconYeah, I'd re-install mysql without the apparmor profile22:53
Mixxithow?22:54
jribMixxit: what's your /etc/mysql/my.cnf look like?22:56
Mixxithttp://paste.ubuntu.com/6207103/22:57
Mixxityay pastebinit worked22:58
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Mixxitspeak to provider?23:04
RoryIt's looking like it23:04
Mixxitok thanks guys!23:04
Mixxitaprpeciate the time and effort23:04
sam113101can I recover files on gedit?23:07
sam113101had a blackout23:07
sam113101pls guys23:07
zohangood mornng23:08
zohangood morning23:08
zohan:D23:08
thewhateverybody have a good night/day(it s night here),I hope to install Ubuntu in a few days,glad to see people are helpful23:09
zohanmmm23:09
zohancan u help me?23:10
zohanbut it's about install nvidia on my ubuntu 12.0423:10
zohansomebody help me please23:10
zohan:(23:10
swaagiewhy is getting ubuntu installed on a raid 0 properly gpt partitioned disk such a pain in the ass, like getting uefi working is impossible, error ???23:10
jribMixxit: do you not have /var/log/mysql the directory?23:10
jribMixxit: what's in /etc/mysql/conf.d?23:10
mikeandrdHow can I completely uninstall software?23:11
jribmikeandrd: apt-get purge PACKAGE23:11
zohanmikeandrd using by synaptic manager package23:12
zohanit's gui and easier23:12
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mikeandrdok thanks23:13
swaagieanyone with experience on actually installing ubuntu in uefi/gpt?23:13
schnitzlis it possible to start some daemon (with upstart or rc.local or however) and give a certain user all rights to kill/restart/do whatever he wants with that daemon. that user has very few rights elsewhere.23:16
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alexahow to add "paste shortcut" to right click menu?23:51
alexa(the way of creating links on desktop)23:51
DerpyDooperGuys Guys my kali linux installation is asking me if I want to install grub boot loader23:52
DerpyDooperIf I do that, how can I install ubuntu on top of it?23:52
DerpyDooperWill installing ubuntu on top of it overwrite it?23:53
DerpyDooper???23:53
DerpyDooperHow do I make sure that doesn't happen?23:53
k1lyes, if you want23:53
DerpyDooperOr will ubuntu recognize that grub is there?23:53
DerpyDooperHow exactly do I configure it to multiboot during the ubuntu install afterwards?23:53
DerpyDooperWithout just having ubuntu overwrite it?23:53
DerpyDooperOr will Ubuntu automatically recognize it during the installation?23:53
DerpyDooperDo I have to make seperate partitions or will it do ti for me?23:54
wilee-nilee!patience | DerpyDooper23:54
ubottuDerpyDooper: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com/ or http://ubuntuforums.org/ or http://askubuntu.com/23:54
zykotic10DerpyDooper: i'd recommend you let ubuntu overright grub, then run "sudo update-grub" after install finished, and you should then see both.  which ever grub you install last, will be in charge.23:54
k1lDerpyDooper: make seperate partitions23:54
k1l!dualboot | DerpyDooper23:54
ubottuDerpyDooper: Dual boot instructions: x86/AMD64: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DualBoot/Windows - Macs: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacBookPro https://help.ubuntu.com/community/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot23:54
alexaadding paste symbolic link to right click menu? anyone?23:54
TheMischiefHey23:55
TheMischiefBin neu hier23:55
sealbhachwilkommen23:56
k1lTheMischief: this is the english channel. the german support channel is in #ubuntu-de or the offtopic channel in #ubuntu-de-offtopic23:56
alexa #ubuntu-de :D23:57
Ari-Yang!de23:57
ubottuIn den meisten Ubuntu-Kanälen wird nur Englisch gesprochen. Für deutschsprachige Hilfe besuche bitte #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #edubuntu-de oder #ubuntu-at. Einfach "/join #ubuntu-de" eingeben. Danke für Dein Verständnis!23:57
sealbhachalexa: how often do you need to make symbolic links? Just do it from command line is my advice23:57
alexasealbhach: ctrl + shift does the work :D23:57
sealbhachOK, as long as you're happy23:58
alexaI cant use letter + tab to get one's name. It goes alphabetically. How do I arrange it to first display the nickname of the person who last wrote in channel?23:59
alexacouldn't point to TheMischief, cause there are hundred of t**** nicks23:59
alexaany hint?23:59

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