[00:00] <Svetlana> AdityaRaj, what partition do you already have, is the free space allocated or unallocated?
[00:00] <AdityaRaj> Svetlana, it is unallocated
[00:00] <Svetlana> AdityaRaj, perfect. I would expect the installer to grab it and use it then.
[00:01] <AdityaRaj> i dont get that option
[00:01] <AdityaRaj> Svetlana, earlier i remember there used be an option for auto allocation but i cant see that now
[00:02] <Ownix> is it possible to have a bootloader on one drive launch an OS on another drive?
[00:02] <genii> Ownix: Yes.
[00:02] <Ownix> genii: I think I have unintentionally done that...
[00:02] <wilee-nilee> AdityaRaj, Can you run sudo fdisk -l and pastebin it?
[00:03] <skinux> How long should it take rsync to move 5-10G?
[00:04] <AdityaRaj> wilee-nilee, what do you need to knw? i cant paste as it is a diff system
[00:04] <skinux> It's moving from Ubuntu's partition to a second primary partition.
[00:04] <kxtwo> I am trying to download a torrent and when I click ont eh torrent file it is asking me to pick an application.  How do I get it to default to transmission?  This happened to me once randomly before and some one told me but I dont remember
[00:04] <genii> Ownix: A more detailed explanation might help us
[00:05] <wilee-nilee> AdityaRaj, Need the number of partitions and type and whether primary or logical, looke at from linux.
[00:06] <Ownix> genii: okay, give me some time I running through another instal
[00:06] <wilee-nilee> looked*
[00:06] <Svetlana> AdityaRaj, the installer does make use of the unallocated space for you; you don't need to allocate it.
[00:06] <Svetlana> kxtwo, where do you click, in Firefox?
[00:07] <kxtwo> what?
[00:07] <kxtwo> nevermind I got it
[00:07] <Svetlana> Perfect.
[00:07] <kxtwo> not sure what you were asking anyway lol.  Also not sure why the default changed unless a Firefox update changed it.
[00:08] <tbjr> skinux,  it must have taken 10 minutes for me when I recently moved 13 GB from a platter drive to an ssd.  It didn't show a progress bar but I could see the drive light was solid the whole time.
[00:09] <skinux> I'm wondering if I should have started rsync from livecd, but it seemed fine to do it while using the system.
[00:10] <AdityaRaj> Svetlana, it say no root file system is defined !
[00:11] <wilee-nilee> AdityaRaj, If you have 4 partitions already, and it is not gpt, that is the max on primaries.
[00:12] <Noskcaj> How do i set a catalogue location in glade 3.8?
[00:12] <Crazyzurfer> http://i.imgur.com/kEFXsOQ.png ---> don't see my interface correctly, no launcher bar, not close button on apps, etc
[00:13] <Svetlana> AdityaRaj, that would be odd: '/' is the main filesystem and the installer should select that automatically.
[00:14] <aditya_> Svetlana, any idea?
[00:16] <wilee-nilee> aditya_, If you did not see an auto install, I would stop and identify the partition setup, this computer is on the web right?
[00:19] <aditya_> wilee-nilee, yet is on the web
[00:19] <tbjr> I'm trying to use sync in the software center to from an earlier install on the same computer.  Each instance of Ubuntu gives the computer a different name however, the software center doesn't show both "computers".  Sync doesn't require 2 computers to be connected at the same time does it?
[00:19] <wilee-nilee> aditya_, Then open gparted take a screen shot and imagebin it
[00:20] <wilee-nilee> !screenshot | aditya_
[00:20] <wilee-nilee> !imagebin | aditya_
[00:20] <wilee-nilee> aditya_ then post the url to it.
[00:23] <aditya_> http://imagebin.org/272967
[00:23] <aditya_> wilee-nilee, check it out
[00:24] <k1l> aditya_: you have not selected where ubuntu should be installed to
[00:24] <wilee-nilee> aditya_, Whats in the ntfs?
[00:24] <gdos> i would like to block certain users from using certain applications but not edit the menus, how can i do this? xchat for example.
[00:24] <Guest63120> I've been trying to fix grub2 for 2 hours, can someone help me ?   I've been using Linux for many years, I followed all the guides
[00:24] <Guest63120> I installed Windows and now I can't get grub menu  thus can't boot Ubuntu
[00:25] <k1l> Guest63120: load a ubuntu live-system and reinstall grub
[00:25] <aditya_> wilee-nilee, i have selected the freespace and the other ntfs is a partition for my data
[00:25] <wilee-nilee> Guest63120, You tried the bootrepair app? It generates a bootinfo script as well.
[00:26] <Guest63120> k1l, yes that's what im doing but i have some confusions.     First, fdisk -l shows that my Windows NTFS partition is the default boot partition (with a *) - is that normal ?
[00:26] <wilee-nilee> aditya_, strange it shows as sda5 though with nothing in front, can you show gparted it is in the menu?
[00:26] <k1l> Guest63120: grub and linux dont mind the boot flag.
[00:26] <k1l> Guest63120: its just for the windows loader. keep it as it is
[00:27] <Guest63120> I've done a grub-install --root-directory=/mnt /dev/sdb   (where /mnt is my Linux root partition) - it completed fine
[00:27] <Guest63120> It ran grub-update fine
[00:27] <Guest63120> but upon reboot I just get the windows booting, no menu nothing
[00:27] <k1l> Guest63120: sdb is the 2nd hdd. which doesnt get asked first after a bootloader
[00:27] <wilee-nilee> Guest63120, you booting sdb first from the bios?
[00:27] <Guest63120> oh wait
[00:27] <Guest63120> omg I forgot I had an ssd that I boot from -_-
[00:28] <Guest63120> ok let me check lol, thanks :)
[00:28] <yellow_no_5> Does anyone know how to map a network share in Ubuntu?
[00:28] <k1l> grub needs to sit in the MBR from the first hdd that gets booted
[00:28] <aditya_> wilee-nilee, i dont have gpated
[00:29] <aditya_> wilee-nilee, do you still need that fdisk output? what was the command again?
[00:29] <wilee-nilee> aditya_, What is the version of ubuntu you have booted, they all have gparted on board the live cd.
[00:29] <wilee-nilee> aditya_, sudo fdisk -l
[00:30] <Guest63120> thank you guys, gonna reboot now it should work finally.  what a dumb thing i forgot the other drive :D
[00:30] <Guest63120> cya
[00:33] <KurtKraut> Svetlana, the commands you shown are only valid if the binary is already installed in the system. That wasn't my case.
[00:34] <aditya_> wilee-nilee, this is 12.04 lts
[00:35] <wilee-nilee> aditya_, Something is strange, what did you use to make that area unallocated, had you used linux, the one partition should not show a logical with out a extended, and the number is to high for a single partition
[00:35] <aditya_> i deleted an existing partition
[00:36] <wilee-nilee> aditya_, with what?
[00:36] <aditya_> wilee-nilee, here is the pastebin: http://pastebin.com/XEJDZRS
[00:36] <aditya_> wilee-nilee, i used the installer
[00:37] <aditya_> wow i do have gparted. sorry about that
[00:37] <aditya_> wilee-nilee, do you still need its screenshot?
[00:37] <wilee-nilee> aditya_, Your pastebin  was removed. Never the less the numbering is funky, something is up.
[00:38] <wilee-nilee> I'm not sure the installer renumbers partitions like gparted does
[00:38] <wilee-nilee> automatically with a delete.
[00:38] <ice9> how to get the pixel shader and opengl version?
[00:39] <Guest85262> hi
[00:39] <chaotic_good> what is command to upgrade from 11 to 12?
[00:39] <Guest85262> change name
[00:39] <wilee-nilee> !eol  | chaotic_good
[00:39] <genii> Guest85262: /nick newname
[00:39] <wilee-nilee> chaotic_good, read the upgrades link
[00:39] <aditya_> wilee-nilee, let me try again
[00:40] <Guest85262> aditya
[00:40] <aditya_> wilee-nilee, what site should i use to make the paste?
[00:41] <wilee-nilee> aditya_, the fdisk is not really important, you have a problem with that sda5, the installer would balk at this the numbering is wrong.
[00:42] <wilee-nilee> aditya_, A sda5 would be inside a extended partition normally, can explain why it is not?
[00:43] <wilee-nilee> unless there was a gpt setup which there is no sign of so far
[00:43] <raed> hello guys this err msg appear to me failed to download repository﻿
[00:43] <reisio> wilee-nilee: why would it balk?
[00:43] <young_> 大家好
[00:43] <wilee-nilee> reisio, Have you looked at the install picture?
[00:44] <reisio> nope
[00:44] <reisio> young_: hi
[00:44] <young_> hi
[00:44] <wilee-nilee> reisio, http://imagebin.org/272967
[00:44] <reisio> hi again :)
[00:44] <aditya_> wilee-nilee, not sure
[00:44] <pushpop> whats the best gui available to manage iptables?
[00:44] <young_> where are you?
[00:44] <young_> reisio, hi
[00:44] <young_> reisio ,where are you?
[00:44] <reisio> pushpop: could try ufw
[00:44] <reisio> young_: right here
[00:45] <reisio> wilee-nilee: the window certainly seems upset, but not about it being sda5
[00:45] <reisio> don't mean to butt in, just piqued my curiosity
[00:46] <aditya_> wilee-nilee, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6203057
[00:47] <young_> reisio, Ubuntu有在线音乐和视频播软件吗？
[00:47] <wilee-nilee> aditya_, the fdisk shows different than you installer.
[00:48] <wilee-nilee> your*
[00:48] <reisio> young_: yes
[00:48] <reisio> young_: #ubuntu-cn
[00:49] <young_> reisio, thank you!
[00:49] <aditya_> wilee-nilee, what do you suggest?
[00:51] <wilee-nilee> aditya_, close the installer and open gparted, take a screen shot and imagebin it. It looks like you tried to remove sda1, that is okay, if you have no windows to boot, however sda2 is the extended that sda5 is inside of.
[00:51] <wilee-nilee> aditya_, In the installer shot you show no sda2
[00:52] <chaotic_good> ok eol 11?
[00:52] <chaotic_good> 11 to 12?
[00:52] <chaotic_good> how upgrade?
[00:53] <wilee-nilee> chaotic_good, You have to make a new sources.list kit is in that link from the bot.
[00:53] <wilee-nilee> it*
[00:53] <aditya_> wilee-nilee, there is a pen drive connected that i am using to install ubuntu
[00:53] <wilee-nilee> aditya_, and?
[00:54] <wilee-nilee> aditya_, I see the pendrive in the fdisk, if you do not understand tell me, it is okay, we want to make no mistakes.
[00:55] <aditya_> wilee-nilee, i am not sure.. i just want to install ubuntu
[00:56] <wilee-nilee> aditya_, Right and with the way the installer does not jibe with the fdisk means we need to look at the HD with gparted, to confirm you still hace the partions the fdisk shows but the installer does not.
[00:57] <aditya_> wilee-nilee, should i share gparted screenshot?
[00:57] <wilee-nilee> aditya_, gparted is in the menu, open it hit the prtsc key and imagebin it
[00:58] <wilee-nilee> yes
[00:58] <wilee-nilee> nothing private there if that's the concern
[00:58] <raven_> How do I make a shortcut to a wine program on the desktop
[00:59] <aditya_> wilee-nilee, http://imagebin.org/272969
[00:59] <wilee-nilee> aditya_, Thats good is the installer closed?
[01:00] <aditya_> wilee-nilee, no the installer is still running
[01:00] <reisio> raven_: just make a .desktop launcher, and have it run wine path/to/executable
[01:00] <reisio> raven_: with WINEPREFIX, if you have more than one
[01:00] <wilee-nilee> aditya_, close the installer, you have no unallocated space, we will do that in gparted, then it should install.
[01:00] <raven_> reisio can I send you a PM
[01:00] <aditya_> wilee-nilee, done
[01:01] <reisio> raven_: don't see why not
[01:01] <wilee-nilee> aditya_, Coo just right click sda1 only and delete, leave sda2 alone it has to stay.
[01:01] <wilee-nilee> Cool*
[01:02] <wilee-nilee> aditya_, I assume you have no widows to boot right?
[01:02] <wilee-nilee> windows*
[01:03] <Titanium> I installed the binary AMD GPU driver from their site, and now when I login I get the background and nothing else. I used to get that error screen about the GPU not working before I installed the driver. I can right click on background and go to settings but cannot get to the terminal
[01:03] <Titanium> i enabled ssh
[01:03] <Titanium> Where do I look or how do i fix this?
[01:04] <aditya_> wilee-nilee, i want to confirm what is on sda1 how can i do that?
[01:04] <aditya_> it is not mounted at the moment
[01:04] <wilee-nilee> Titanium, generally your best to use what is in the repos.
[01:04] <aditya_> and i cant find an option to do that on gparted interface
[01:04] <milamber> Titanium: not sure what you are asking, but ctrl + alt + t will get you a virtual terminal, to go to the actual console it's ctrl + alt + f2, ctrl + alt + f7 to get back
[01:05] <Freel0ader> hi
[01:05] <Freel0ader> i have an iso
[01:05] <wilee-nilee> aditya_, right click the sda1 partition "the image" of it and click delete, then hit the green check mark to run it.
[01:05] <Freel0ader> ubuntu desktop
[01:05] <Freel0ader> can i stick it on a usb stick without formatting stick?
[01:05] <wilee-nilee> Freel0ader, yep dd it
[01:06] <Freel0ader> will it format stick?
[01:06] <wilee-nilee> nope
[01:06] <Titanium> wilee-nilee those do not work at all
[01:06] <reisio> Freel0ader: insofar as it will copy an FS to the stick, yes
[01:06] <milamber> Freel0ader: what was on there won't be available any more
[01:06] <aditya_> wilee-nilee, i just want to  be sure i am not deleting a wrong partition as with installer i deleted a partion of 21 gb
[01:06] <Titanium> milamber thank you that helps a lot!
[01:06] <wilee-nilee> Titanium, Are you sure is all I can say, and in what circumstances?
[01:06] <Freel0ader> milamber, so should i copy everything off of stick
[01:06] <Freel0ader> then dd it
[01:06] <Freel0ader> then put everything on stick?
[01:07] <Titanium> i tried all day yesterday with the ones from repos and the default ones
[01:07] <Titanium> the ones i wgetted from amd's site worked perfect the first time, then I tried to install wine and it did this
[01:07] <Titanium> wilee-nilee then I re-intalled ubuntu and it still is doing this
[01:07] <milamber> Freel0ader: anything you want off the stick should be copied before you dd the iso
[01:07] <milamber> Titanium: np
[01:07] <Freel0ader> oh?
[01:08] <Freel0ader> oh right
[01:08] <wilee-nilee> aditya_, With the installer you tried to delete sda1 and sda2 you can't delete sda2 without removing sda5 first. The window at the bottom of gparted tells you what you are doing once you have chosen.
[01:08] <wilee-nilee> aditya_, You want to keep sda2 and sda5 and just remove sda1.
[01:10] <aditya_> wilee-nilee, ok done
[01:10] <wilee-nilee> aditya_, Yuu will have no swap, unless you resize the sda5 as well, you only can put one primary in that space, and have the partition numbers be in numerical order going up from left to right.
[01:10] <ice9> does ubuntu runs nice with AMD processors on laptops?
[01:10] <reisio> there even data on there?
[01:10] <reisio> ice9: yup
[01:11] <ice9> reisio, better than intel or same?
[01:11] <Freel0ader> ok friends
[01:11] <wilee-nilee> aditya_, you can install now, and it should give you the option in the gui, not the something else choice, no swap though if asked.
[01:11] <Freel0ader>   is my thumb drive/dev/sdb1
[01:11] <reisio> ice9: mmm, it's probably close enough that it'd be incredibly hard to measure a difference
[01:11] <reisio> ice9: they're all supported very well
[01:11] <reisio> ice9: in case you didn't know, no OS supports more hardware than GNU/Linux
[01:12] <ice9> reisio, and what is the best supported graphics card?
[01:12] <buu> Is there anyway CLI way to interrogate your wireless card and ask it for exact specifications, specifically max speed and so on?
[01:12] <reisio> ice9: the best is probably intel graphics, but that also tends to not be the most impressive :)
[01:12] <reisio> ice9: amd/ati and nvidia graphics are both well supported for most devices
[01:12] <aditya_> wilee-nilee, ok i am shrinking sda5 to free up space. its taking some time
[01:13] <wilee-nilee> Titanium, Did you ever check the additional drivers?
[01:13] <reisio> aditya_: is there data on sda5?
[01:13] <wilee-nilee> reisio, Yeah they want to keep it.
[01:13] <aditya_> reisio, yes about 20 gb
[01:13] <reisio> 20gb wouldn't take long to copy elsewhere
[01:14] <wilee-nilee> thats a windows generated extended, yeah I would re do that hd myself
[01:14] <aditya_> reisio, i would   do that as last resort
[01:14] <reisio> :)
[01:15] <reisio> probably a lot less compressed, too
[01:16] <wilee-nilee> aditya_, You would be best served if you copied it off, and redid the HD, so you would have the right space for ubuntu and a swap, and the ntfs.
[01:16] <reisio> having a copy of something would make it 100% safe as well
[01:16] <reisio> resizing is more like 90% safe
[01:17] <aditya_> wilee-nilee, ok i will do that
[01:17] <wilee-nilee> aditya_, Cool, good idea, thanks for you help reisio
[01:17] <wilee-nilee> your*
[01:18] <Freel0ader> aww man
[01:18] <Freel0ader> my laptop doesnt have option for usb boot
[01:18] <reisio> Freel0ader: you sure? Is it quite old?
[01:18] <Freel0ader> no, not at all
[01:18] <gmachine_24> Hello. I want to extract a series of zip files but each one to its own folder using cli; I can't figure out the arguments to use . . . after "unzip" . . .
[01:18] <reisio> then it probably has
[01:18] <wilee-nilee> Freel0ader, You could try plop.
[01:19] <Freel0ader> but there's nothing in the bios about it
[01:19] <reisio> Freel0ader: how about the boot menu?
[01:19] <Freel0ader> inspiron laptop, core i5
[01:19] <wilee-nilee> Freel0ader, without it formatted it may not see it, not sure really.
[01:19] <reisio> gmachine_24: -d
[01:19] <aditya_> wilee-nilee, but i am unable to mount sda5
[01:19] <reisio> for i in *.zip; do unzip "$i" -d "${i%.zip}"; done
[01:19] <reisio> something like that
[01:20] <Freel0ader> im saying i dont see an option
[01:20] <gmachine_24> reisio: as in uzip *zip -d   ??
[01:20] <gmachine_24> oh
[01:20] <gmachine_24> OK I will try this
[01:20] <wilee-nilee> aditya_, You ran the delete with the green check in gparted? and close it?
[01:21] <wooby> I am usung 12.04 and btrfs for /
[01:21] <wooby> I got an ugly folder called @ that I want to get rid of. I learned that it is a subvolume
[01:21] <wooby> can I remove that?
[01:21] <aditya_> wilee-nilee, i need to mount the parition first to copy the content right
[01:21] <wilee-nilee> aditya_, Can you answer the question?
[01:22] <aditya_> wilee-nilee, sorry about that yeah i deleted it with green check mark but i dont remember if i closed it or not
[01:22] <reisio> gmachine_24: this is even better: find . -iname '*.zip' -exec sh -c 'unzip {} -d $(basename -s .zip {})' \;
[01:22] <gmachine_24> reisio: I get an error that says "filename not matched"
[01:23] <wilee-nilee> aditya_, Close it, then mount sda5 from home in the left panel.
[01:23] <aditya_> i am rebooting the system now
[01:23] <reisio> gmachine_24: sounds like you didn't use the command I gave you :)
[01:23] <gmachine_24> reisio: thanks but I get this error message sh: Syntax error: "(" unexpected
[01:24] <gmachine_24> I cut and pasted it
[01:24] <Freel0ader>   Inspiron 15R Notebook (Inspiron 5520
[01:24] <gmachine_24> reisio: this is what I ran    find . -iname '*.zip' -exec sh -c 'unzip {} -d $(basename -s .zip {})' \;
[01:25] <Freel0ader> http://askubuntu.com/questions/231671/cant-boot-ubuntu-12-10-from-usb-key-on-dell-inspiron-15r-5520-2012-model
[01:25] <gmachine_24> the ( always seems to kick out an error
[01:25] <reisio> gmachine_24: try -exec bash instead of -exec sh
[01:26] <gmachine_24> reisio: still no good
[01:26] <Freel0ader> how do i know if dd worked for the iso?
[01:27] <gmachine_24> reisio: I get   bash: -c: line 0: syntax error near unexpected token `('
[01:27] <reisio> gmachine_24: let me see the command you're running?
[01:28] <reisio> Freel0ader: it'll boot
[01:28] <Freel0ader> im not sure i dd'd it right
[01:28] <Svetlana> KurtKraut, ah, acknowledged :)
[01:28] <gmachine_24> reisio: find . -iname '*.zip' -exec bash -c 'unzip {} -d $(basename -s .zip {})' \;
[01:28] <Freel0ader> yeah, it cant mount file
[01:28] <Freel0ader> cant access location
[01:29] <Freel0ader> sudo dd bs=4M if=ubuntu-12.04.3-desktop-i386.iso of=/dev/sdb
[01:29] <reisio> gmachine_24: mmm, what does this say?: help | head -1
[01:29] <Freel0ader> i did that. what did i do wrong?
[01:29] <reisio> Freel0ader: what'd it say?
[01:29] <Freel0ader>    Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System
[01:29] <Freel0ader> /dev/sdb1   *          64     1447935      723936   17  Hidden HPFS/NTFS
[01:29] <gmachine_24> reisio: GNU bash, version 4.1.5(1)-release (i486-pc-linux-gnu)
[01:30] <reisio> gmachine_24: well that is odd
[01:30] <gmachine_24> reisio: what is odd
[01:30] <reisio> gmachine_24: that it's failing
[01:31] <gmachine_24> reisio: yeah. I can easily do this with the archive extractor but wanted to learn how using cli; at the moment it has taken up too much of my time though. thanks for your trouble.
[01:31] <sybariten> good evening (night)
[01:31] <reisio> Freel0ader: pardon?
[01:32] <sybariten> i'm using a ubuntu 12 live system, and i'm trying to install a package called live-magic but i'm failing
[01:32] <pushpop> .
[01:32] <sybariten> (to find it) ....  i think its supposed to be inthe universe repositories
[01:32] <Titanium> wilee-nilee how do I check additional divers?
[01:32] <Freel0ader> what to do?
[01:32] <daftykins> sybariten: did you enable them?
[01:32] <sybariten> any ideas? i'm just doing sudo apg-get install live-magic
[01:33] <Freel0ader> i dd'd the iso to usb
[01:33] <sybariten> daftykins: hm yeah i believe i did, via the graphical tool....  then i did a sudo apt-get update
[01:33] <Freel0ader> but fdisk says this
[01:33] <Freel0ader>    Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System
[01:33] <Freel0ader> /dev/sdb1   *          64     1447935      723936   17  Hidden HPFS/NTFS
[01:33] <reisio> Freel0ader: that does not appear to be a problem to me
[01:33] <aditya_> what is the fastest way to transfer a single 20 gb file over network to another ubuntu system?
[01:33] <reisio> Freel0ader: a problem would be if it didn't boot up
[01:34] <Freel0ader> i cant mount it either
[01:34] <reisio> aditya_: scp is the most straightforward way
[01:34] <sybariten> daftykins: for instance i can search the pakckage chromium now after i enabled the universe repos, which i cant do directly from boot. So something has improved.
[01:34] <reisio> aditya_: scp path/to/file user@ip.ip.ip.ip:optional/path/optionalFileName
[01:34] <aditya_> reisio, i am using scp but it says it will take 2 hours +
[01:34] <reisio> aditya_: well even faster ways aren't likely to make it much more faster, sounds like a big file
[01:34] <daftykins> !info live-magic
[01:35] <Freel0ader> scratchthat
[01:35] <aditya_> crap
[01:35] <Freel0ader> i can mount it
[01:35] <sybariten> daftykins: hm, whats raring ?  (except for a funny word in swedish)
[01:35] <daftykins> reisio: that's not true, samba would drop the encryption and go disk speed to disk speed, assuming gigabit
[01:35] <daftykins> sybariten: ubuntu 13.04
[01:35] <aditya_> reisio, i am using local network but it is still showing me upload speed of 2.5 mb/sec is there a limit on scp?
[01:36] <reisio> daftykins: that's quite an assumption
[01:36] <sybariten> daftykins: ok i think i'm on 12....
[01:36] <daftykins> reisio: it is? doesn't seem so in my years of networking D:
[01:36]  * reisio shrugs
[01:37] <daftykins> sybariten: can you pastebin the /etc/apt/sources.list file?
[01:38] <Freel0ader> http://askubuntu.com/questions/231671/cant-boot-ubuntu-12-10-from-usb-key-on-dell-inspiron-15r-5520-2012-model
[01:38] <Freel0ader> was i supposed to dd?
[01:38] <reisio> Freel0ader: supposed to? You just said you had
[01:38] <daftykins> Freel0ader: the fact it says it's hidden is suspect. use gparted to unhide the partition and check the boot flag
[01:38] <Freel0ader> got it
[01:39] <Freel0ader> booting now
[01:39] <sybariten> daftykins: bien sur
[01:40] <raven_> having more trouble with ubuntu..
[01:40] <raven_> does ubuntu use pulseaudio?
[01:40] <reisio> raven_: yes
[01:40] <raven_> ah reisio
[01:40] <sybariten> http://pastebin.com/qDvyg0xt  there you go daftykins
[01:40] <raven_> surely you can help me
[01:41] <raven_> reisio are you familiar with pavucontrol
[01:41] <reisio> raven_: I'm familiar with its existence :p
[01:41] <reisio> I don't use pulse, personally
[01:41] <raven_> reisio why not?
[01:41] <gdos> not a programming question, per se, but a question about ubuntu in general; i am attempting to compile a program using g++ and get the following error: ARCADE.C:12:46: fatal error: conio.h: No such file or directory compilation terminated.
[01:41] <Equs> sybariten: http://www.ubuntuupdates.org/package/core/precise/universe/base/live-magic
[01:42] <arquebus> I installed ubuntu on my new asus laptop and networking wont work. Can someone refer me to info on how I go about getting it to work?
[01:42] <Svetlana> arquebus, wired or wireless?
[01:42] <reisio> arquebus: wireless?
[01:42] <Svetlana> Assuming, assuming. :)
[01:44] <raven_> under ubuntu 12.04 I'm continually having audio problems.. in particular skype gets no input from my webcam microphone
[01:44] <postmodern> is there a ubuntu tar image I can uncompress and chroot into?
[01:44] <arquebus> Svetlana:  reisio: wireless
[01:44] <daftykins> sybariten: hrmm that all looks fine, i don't understand that i'm afraid. but i'm certainly not super experienced
[01:44] <sybariten> daftykins: do you find it yourself if you do an apt-cache search?
[01:45] <Freel0ader> is there an ubuntu that fits on a cd instead of a 750mb file that requires a dvd?
[01:45] <sybariten> Equs: hm, so if i understand correctly it has been removed, for some reason
[01:45] <Equs> sybariten:   it would seem so
[01:45] <reisio> Freel0ader: yes, it's called the 'minimalcd'
[01:46] <reisio> postmodern: look into debootstrap
[01:46] <daftykins> sybariten: i'm not currently on a 12.04 install, so i can't confirm unfortunately
[01:46] <sybariten> daftykins: no, but in a later one
[01:46] <daftykins> i'm actually in older right now :)
[01:47] <daftykins> 10.04.4
[01:47] <daftykins> $ apt-cache search live-magic
[01:47] <daftykins> live-magic - GUI frontend to create Debian LiveCDs, netboot images, etc.
[01:47] <daftykins> it's here though
[01:48] <sybariten> daftykins: ah. Well lucky you then!
[01:48] <genii> Interesting.
[01:48] <sybariten> ;)
[01:48] <daftykins> ^_^
[01:48] <Equs> live -magic is gone from the debian repos as well
[01:49] <sybariten> hmmm
[01:50] <sybariten> i have managed to download something via git
[01:50] <Svetlana> That will not be handled by Ubuntu's update manager.
[01:50] <Equs> well not totally true     source code is there    no packages
[01:50] <sybariten> According to these instructions  https://chris-lamb.co.uk/projects/live-magic    but i seem to be missing some python components when trying to run it right away, so i'm probably in Dependency Hell (TM)
[01:51] <Svetlana> If you do it using git the Ubuntu's software manager will not handle the dependencies for you.
[01:51] <Svetlana> You'll have to read the documentation which the package maintainer already read and processed, and install the dependencies manually, unless the software has a script.
[01:52] <milamber> sybariten: are you familiar with apt-file   ?
[01:52] <sybariten> Svetlana: no no, ofcourse not
[01:53] <Guest31917> hi everyone, someone here been in bodybuilding since the late 80's and currently still active?
[01:53] <sybariten> Svetlana: but theres nothgin like some banging-your-head-against-a-wall at 03:50 a sunday/monday night
[01:53] <sybariten> Guest31917: haha now thats the most random question ive seen on freenode , i think
[01:54] <sybariten> milamber: nope...?
[01:54] <Guest31917> i know
[01:54] <sybariten> Guest31917: seriously, why #ubuntu? just because its big?
[01:54] <Guest31917> it is big but totally diferent
[01:55] <pfifo> #defocus is big and might actuall be a legit place to ask
[01:55] <milamber> sybariten: when compiling source, it is your friend: apt-file search <file name or library you are missing>
[01:56] <sybariten> pfifo: they can be kinda wankers sometimes though and to be honest its often less active than this one... like most chans
[01:56] <sybariten> milamber: aha ok, wort a try
[01:56] <sybariten> thanks
[01:57] <milamber> sybariten: sudo apt-get install apt-file && apt-file update
[01:57] <pfifo> sybariten: when compiling from source 'apt-get build-dep' isa good friend too
[01:57] <milamber> sybariten: also, apt-cache search and then piping into grep is also helpful
[02:06] <sybariten> milamber: pfifo : ok!
[02:07] <Svetlana> sybariten, what are you trying to do, submit them a patch? Or just install a latest version?
[02:11] <pfifo> today I picked up my 90 day chip at AA
[02:11] <PeNNyWiSE182_> grats
[02:12] <pfifo> that wasnt meant for here, but thanks, lol
[02:12] <PeNNyWiSE182_> lol
[02:12] <PeNNyWiSE182_> figured as much, but well done!
[02:12] <wilee-nilee> pfifo, Good for you I was just thinking of watching the Bill W movie, he and the partner were fans of Carl Jung.
[02:13] <wilee-nilee> AA is a jungian institute to some extent, in some interpretations
[02:14] <Freel0ader> ok i booted ubuntu desktop
[02:14] <Freel0ader> i cant find a terminal anywhere
[02:14] <Freel0ader> how do i open a terminal?
[02:14] <wilee-nilee> Freel0ader, ctrl-alt-t
[02:15] <doug__> hi
[02:15] <wilee-nilee> Freel0ader, If this is unity the top button is access
[02:15] <Freel0ader> what's the default root pw?
[02:15] <Freel0ader> oh sudo
[02:16] <wilee-nilee> Freel0ader, there is not one, on the live or install, just a users password.
[02:16] <pfifo> Freel0ader: a randomized string
[02:17] <wilee-nilee> !sudo | Freel0ader
[02:19] <buu> Anyone have some tips about how to query the cabilities of my wireless card, what exactly its capable of, what its connected at, why its doing what its doing?
[02:19] <buu> Preferably cli
[02:19] <Dr_Willis> the various iw* tools buu
[02:19] <Dr_Willis> iwlist  and so forth
[02:19] <buu> Dr_Willis: I've been looking at iwconfig and iwist
[02:19] <Dr_Willis> check their mnan pages - they mantion some other commands  as 'related commands'
[02:20] <buu> Just says "Bit Rate=65MB/s"
[02:20] <buu> er, Mb
[02:20] <Dr_Willis> iw<tab> shows several other iw* tools here
[02:22] <genii> buu: Try sudo ethtool -k <interfacename>
[02:23] <buu> genii: Well, that gives me a lot of settings
[02:23] <buu> I suppose I should rephrase my initial question here, how can I improve the speed of my wireless connection from a ubuntu laptop?
[02:23] <buu> That's my ultimate goal here
[02:24] <buu> Right now a simple wget is maxing out at around 65Mb/s
[02:24] <sybariten> Svetlana: oh im just trying to run this tool, live-magic
[02:24] <pfifo> buu: make sure your not using the same channel as your neghibors
[02:24] <buu> pfifo: Would that matter even if I was next to the router?
[02:25] <sybariten> i've actually managed to start live-magic now....  but appearently ttheres something called live-helper thats necessary "under the hood" so it will just stall when trying to do an operation
[02:25] <pfifo> buu: possibly... can you get better speed using a different distro or OS
[02:25] <sybariten> and it seems as if live-helper isnt in my repos either...  :-/
[02:27] <Equs> sybariten: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/live-helper
[02:27] <pfifo> !info live-magic
[02:27] <pfifo> !info live-magic precise
[02:28] <tet_> Hello?
[02:28] <daftykins> tet_: hi
[02:28] <Equs> sybariten:    seems you are trying to use an old and now unsupported  program
[02:28] <Slade-> wtf is this nginx version: nginx/1.2.6 (Ubuntu)  did ubuntu start changing version numbers on things?
[02:28] <Svetlana> pfifo, it should be interesting to know why Ubuntu folks deleted this package from the repository. http://www.ubuntuupdates.org/package/core/precise/universe/base/live-magic says so.
[02:29] <daftykins> Slade-: it's hard to tell where you're taking that from
[02:29] <Slade-> daftykins: /usr/sbin/nginx -v
[02:29] <pfifo> Svetlana: buggy and unmaintained, was copied from oneiric... https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/precise/+source/live-magic/1.14
[02:29] <Svetlana> !info nginx
[02:29] <Slade-> yea. whats the real version
[02:30] <Svetlana> Slade-: ^^^^ this is the version. It does have a 'ubuntu' bit but is otherwise consistent with what software version the package contains.
[02:30] <Slade-> Svetlana: doubt it
[02:30] <Slade-> unless they suddenly dropped a major release between updates (I just upgraded to new version of ubuntu)
[02:31] <Svetlana> Could be.
[02:31] <Svetlana> !info nginx precise
[02:31] <tet_> Hey, is it possible I get some install help?
[02:31] <Svetlana> !info nginx oneiric
[02:31]  * Svetlana sighs.
[02:31] <wilee-nilee> Slade-, For the record acronyms for swearing phrases are not allowed here
[02:32] <Svetlana> !info nginx quantal
[02:32] <Slade-> wilee-nilee: k
[02:32] <Svetlana> Slade-,from precise to quantal, they changed from 1.1.19 to 1.2.1.
[02:33] <Slade-> Svetlana: hmm would it have overridden my self installed copy of nginx?
[02:33] <Slade-> trying to figure out how i lost websocket support running a do-upgrade-release..  (1.3 minimum version)
[02:33] <Svetlana> I would expect that to go to a different directory. A very primitive way to check could be to try running 'locate nginx'. (I think user-installed things would go to /usr/local/ in some cases.)
[02:34] <Slade-> guess i'll poke around. very odd.. thanks for info
[02:37] <Dr_Willis> self installed - as in compiled from source?
[02:38] <The_Acid_Toy> how do i set multiple ipv6 addresses in ubuntu
[02:38] <cfhowlett> !ipv6|The_Acid_Toy,
[02:38] <The_Acid_Toy> when i try and make a alias interface and restart i get this error
[02:39] <The_Acid_Toy> error: "net.ipv6.conf.eth0:2.autoconf" is an unknown key
[02:39] <jpds> The_Acid_Toy: Why make an alaias? An interface itself can have multiple addresses.
[02:39] <The_Acid_Toy> how?
[02:40] <cfhowlett> The_Acid_Toy, see the link ...
[02:40] <The_Acid_Toy> i am
[02:40] <cfhowlett> The_Acid_Toy, also sounds like a possible question for #ubuntu-server
[02:40] <The_Acid_Toy> thanks i will try there
[02:41] <pura> hloo
[02:41] <reisio> 'lo
[02:45] <comptroller> I am having a trouble with Teeworlds.  Whenever I open the game it takes up both of my monitors (which are of different resolutions) and I can't get it confined just to my primary (higher resolution monitor).  I also can't quit and need to restart to exit. I just installed Ubuntu 13.10 and am using  open source drivers. What should I do?
[02:46] <cfhowlett> !saucy|comptroller,
[03:06] <TripSec> Anyone not afk?
[03:07] <HaltingState> if i do the 13.10 beta will it upgrade to release automatically when its ready?
[03:07] <bazhang> !final | HaltingState
[03:08] <TripSec> am I able to use piratebay with ktorrent?
[03:08] <cfhowlett> TripSec, ktorrent will download torrents ... source agnostic. so ... yes
[03:09] <TripSec> I can't get the torrent to come up in ktorrent when I select the magnet in piratebay
[03:10] <buu> TripSec: select it? What exact steps are you taking?
[03:11] <cjwelborn> it's supposed to automatically start ktorrent, which it does. but it never starts the download. it gets stuck on 'examining magnet link'. at least, that's what I have seen. Its not just piratebay, the magnet link I was clicking was from a different source.
[03:12] <TripSec> I go to the specific torrent, then try to get the magnet link and the launch application window appears and asks to choose and application but once i select ktorrent nothing happens
[03:12] <buu> TripSec: Can you manually start ktorrent and copy the magnet link into it?
[03:12] <cfhowlett> TripSec, test: install a different torrent handler - transmission.  try that instead
[03:13] <TripSec> I did, I also tried qbittorrent and they all do the same
[03:13] <cfhowlett> TripSec, and non PB torrents?
[03:13] <buu> TripSec: I mean, does it work when you do it that way?
[03:13] <buu> Manually start then add
[03:14] <TripSec> I'll try
[03:14] <TripSec> but yes non pb torrent also
[03:15] <cfhowlett> TripSec, so you get no torrents.  Could it be a router block?  try a different internet input
[03:18] <Slade-> !info nginx saucy
[03:18] <Slade-> hmm
[03:18] <TripSec> cfhowlett, still same results
[03:19] <Slade-> wonder if i can install that safely
[03:19] <Dr_Willis> mixing packages from differntre releases is not a good idea
[03:19] <postmodern> trying to use debootstrap to setup a testing chroot, i used --variant=buildd but after schroot'ing in apt-get cannot be found?
[03:19] <cfhowlett> TripSec, seems to me your torrents capability is blocked somehow.  I assume it worked and then it stopped?  what changed?
[03:21] <Slade-> yea. guess i'll just use the packages from the nginx site
[03:22] <Slade-> no idea where my previouis version went
[03:23] <TripSec> cfhowlett, this is the first time tryin to dl a torrent on ubuntu. I usually use utorrent with windows on my laptop
[03:24] <Svetlana> Slade-, if you use packages from the nginx site without a PPA you will have to manually update them I suspect.
[03:24] <Slade-> Svetlana: yea i just dont know where my previous version went
[03:24] <Slade-> i'm over it for now, just trying to get it back
[03:25] <Slade-> cant overwrite the previous version with the one from the site either
[03:26] <cfhowlett> TripSec,  try this: purge and reinstall the apps.  make sure you kill the .hidden configuration files in your /home
[03:34] <Valdus> all: is clamtk the best virus scanner for ubuntu 12.04 LTS?
[03:34] <Svetlana> Whatever GUI you choose, it is clamav and is good.
[03:34] <Dr_Willis> Valdus:  best is to use several differnt scanners. to reduce  false positives and more possible hits
[03:35] <Svetlana> Good point.
[03:35] <cfhowlett> !virus|Valdus,
[03:35] <Dr_Willis> Valdus:  you do realize that  the main task of av softwer  is to scan for windows viruses in files. :)
[03:35] <Paulus68_1> is there a channel specific for ubuntu server related questions?
[03:35] <Svetlana> Yes. #ubuntu-server
[03:35] <Valdus> Dr_Willis: i didn't know that, but tanks for letting me know haha
[03:35] <Valdus> Dr_Willis: do you have any suggestions for other scanner to use?
[03:36] <Dr_Willis> Valdus:  so i imagine if you re not acnning windows files.. then you dont need av software on linux
[03:36] <jamie_> can anyone tell me the most popular distro of linux? is it Unity? kde?
[03:36] <Dr_Willis> Valdus:  if you are worried about viruses on liniux.. theres not much to worry about
[03:36] <daftykins> jamie_: distrowatch.org
[03:36] <Svetlana> Valdus, note what ubottu told you; it answers the question somewhat.
[03:36] <Dr_Willis> jamie_:  Unity and KDE are desktop - not disrtos
[03:36] <jamie_> what's the most popular desktop then ?
[03:37] <Valdus> Svetlana: yeah, makes sense
[03:37] <Valdus> So if i don't use something like wine then i don't have anything to worry about?
[03:37] <cfhowlett> jamie_, unity but ... who cares?  what do YOU need it to and what are YOUR preferences.  configuring your device based on popularity and public opinion is just lazy.
[03:37] <jamie_> cfhowlett: i care, that's why i'm asking
[03:38] <Ari-Yang> !de
[03:38] <Ari-Yang> !desktop
[03:39] <bwayne> compiling my own kernel just for fun. i've gone through menuconfig and removed stuff I don't want. However, when I make I still see these modules being compiled. I was thinking that if I deselecte them then they wouldn't be included in the kernel. So why are they being compiled?
[03:43] <Slade-> which mailx package is recommended? seems to be 3
[03:44] <TripSec> cfhowlett, i got it working. Thanks for your help
[03:45] <cfhowlett> TripSec, how?  what was the fix?
[03:46] <bwayne> Slade-: it depends on how feature rich you want your MUA to be. heirloom-mailx is more feature-rich.
[03:47] <Slade-> bwayne: nah just need basic
[03:47] <Slade-> i'll use it tho. its small
[03:48] <TripSec> cfhowlett, first purged and reinstalled apps, killed .hidden config in home like you said and went into firefox prefrences, applications, then went to magnet and selected transmission-gtk to use with them
[03:48] <cfhowlett> TripSec, ok then.  Glad it all worked out.  Be safe, have fun.
[03:48] <TripSec> Thanks man, you too.
[03:54] <raven_> hello everyone, here are my issues. On Ubuntu 12.04 I get no sound from Google Chrome at all. Additionally flash videos, such as youtube videos, start playing and then stop playing only a few seconds into the video. Also with the google music web app in chrome the songs do not start playing at all, they stay at 00:00.
[03:55] <bwayne> raven_: do you have sound from local files?
[03:56] <raven_> bwayne well I have sound from skype I'm on a call right now
[03:56] <TripSec> raven_ , have you tried to see if it worked on firefox?
[03:58] <raven_> how do I killall firefox
[03:58] <raven_> youtube force closed it I wanna try it one once more though
[03:58] <wilee-nilee> raven_, with killall firefox
[03:59] <raven_> no that doesn't work
[03:59] <raven_> it's something like killall mozilla firefox
[04:00] <raven_> interesting... so I opened youtube in Opera and it played a video, but it was muted in the applet. Soon as I brought the volume up the video stopped playing and froze
[04:01] <cfhowlett> raven_, updated lately?
[04:02] <raven_> cfhowlett updated what? apt?
[04:03] <cfhowlett> raven_, thinking that perhaps you're using some outdated packages.  open a terminal and run the following to get all your packages updated:  sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[04:04] <raven_> cfhowlett I can try but the install is fresh as of this morning
[04:06] <wilee-nilee> raven_, works everytime here.
[04:06] <cfhowlett> raven_, what version?  and did you install restricted extras?
[04:11] <ak5> hi! Can I get dpkg -i to behave so that it doesn't install if it is already installed?
[04:13] <xmetal> oops forgot i logged in here lol ... got side-tracked studying
[04:16] <Dr_Willis> Hmm.m Getting wifi disconnecting for somtning lately. :(
[04:20] <xmetal> (i know i am latel) but for raven, I'd run the package manager and get the latest updates for Opera (if thats the browser you like best or use most...w/e) and flash updates
[04:20] <xmetal> back to studying :)
[04:30] <Paulus68_1> lag is killing me
[04:33] <newuser> which uses less battery power - lan or wifi ?
[04:34] <newuser> pdf editors for ubuntu ?
[04:34] <Dr_Willis> id say wired networking would use less power newuser
[04:34] <newuser> Dr_Willis: how much less ?
[04:35] <Dr_Willis> newuser:  given how wireless power need can vary greatly on the card, distance, a/b/g/n  i have no idea
[04:35] <Dr_Willis> also depends on how much the network is being used i imagine. ;)
[04:37] <Dr_Willis> i think im fighting a power issue right now. and wireless  ;)
[04:37] <newuser> Dr_Willis: lol ok, and second question - good pdf editors for ubuntu ?
[04:37] <Dr_Willis> raspbnerry pi works great wired.. wireless - it has issues.. due to the small power supply i got. ;)  Just upgraded the Powar.
[04:37] <wiak> is there a way to use rsync to speed up download over ssh?
[04:38] <Dr_Willis> I never edit pdf,. i rarely even read pdfs' so no idea newuser
[04:38] <newuser> anyone else ?
[04:38] <Dr_Willis> wiak:  you might want to use wget perhaps?   but you would need some sort of server serveing the files
[04:39] <wiak> lol
[04:40] <Rakko> I'm going crazy here. How can I automatically detect USB drives and mount them from outside an X serssion? I thought I had success before using udevil, but now I see that that requires supplying the drive. What I'm thinking of is something that just mounts everything plugged in, like when you're at the desktop.
[04:41] <Dr_Willis> Rakko:  theres some auto-mounting services in the repos  'autofs' perhaps?
[04:41] <Dr_Willis> Rakko:  also i you do have the  the desktop installed. there are the gnome gvfs tools you can use in the cli
[04:41] <Dr_Willis> !info pmount
[04:41] <Dr_Willis> !info udisks
[04:41] <Dr_Willis> !info autofs
[04:42] <Dr_Willis> its all going to be about the details of how you want to access the devices
[04:42] <Rakko> OK. I know it was something I have installed, and I do have udevil and udisks, but not pmount
[04:43] <Dr_Willis> one thing to watch out for - some of those commands may use HAL, or udev, or the other older hardware detection subsustems. so any guides on this with examples. Might be out of date, or not work in the future
[04:43] <Dr_Willis> someone was asking this exact question earlier this week. I think he ended up using pmount.
[04:44] <Dr_Willis> also with external ntfs or vfat. I THINK there might be some udev(?) rules that may mount them in difrernt ways by default according to some settings.  (like let all users access them and so forth)
[04:59] <comptroller> Hi everyone. I'm having an issues with the open source drivers.. whenever I try to load a game like Teeworlds or others, the game opens on both screens, stretched with a crazy wide resolution. any ideas?
[05:01] <comodo_dragon> !lts
[05:01] <Dr_Willis> comptroller:  what video card?
[05:02] <comodo_dragon> why is 12.04 supported for 5 yeras?
[05:02] <comodo_dragon> years*
[05:02] <Dr_Willis> comodo_dragon:  they did a exception for it and extended the support life
[05:02] <comodo_dragon> why?
[05:02] <comptroller> ATI HD 3870
[05:02] <Dr_Willis> due to all the big changed i guess they were planning for 13.x+
[05:02] <comptroller> Dr_Willis
[05:02] <comodo_dragon> hehe
[05:03] <Dr_Willis> comptroller:  dual monitor on nvidia (the only ones i use) require  the propiarty drivers to get apps to be able to fullscreen on just one monitor. If i dont use them. then many apps get confused and think i have a single very very wide monitor
[05:04] <Dr_Willis> comptroller:  you might want to check askubuntu.com - they may know of some work arounds
[05:04] <comodo_dragon> is it some masonic ritual?
[05:05] <vijaya> I have a problem while extracting rootstrap for scratchbox....I google it for so much time but couldn't find any solution....can anyone help??
[05:05] <comptroller> yeah.. unfortunately my  video card is not supported...
[05:06] <comptroller> thanks Dr_willis.. it sounds like I'm probably out of luck
[05:13]  * Rakko returns
[05:14]  * comodo_dragon hi
[05:15] <Rakko> I guess I still don't see how to use any of those command-line tools to automatically mount whatever's plugged in without me having to know the device names.
[05:15] <Rakko> As I said, I'm 99% sure it was either udevil or udisks -- most probably udevil.
[05:16] <comodo_dragon> made by the devil
[05:17] <Rakko> Dr_Willis: so autofs is the very newest?
[05:17] <Dr_Willis> Rakko:  no idea.
[05:17] <Rakko> Dr_Willis: well you were saying that HAL and udev are older.
[05:17] <Dr_Willis> the gvfs stuff is a feature of gnome. No idea how long autofs has been around. its most likely best in system cases
[05:18] <Dr_Willis> autofs might use hal. might use udev. I dont use it - so no idea on it more then just to say.. it exists. ;)
[05:18] <Rakko> I just found my answer! devmon --mount-all
[05:19]  * comodo_dragon burps
[05:19] <Rakko> night
[05:19] <raub> Is 01-mail-stack-delivery.conf an ubuntu-specific config file for dovecot?
[05:24] <reisio> raub: can you pastebin it?
[05:26] <reisio> raub: it probably is, yes, likely based on the example .conf's dovecot comes with
[05:43] <vijaya> I have a problem while extracting rootstrap for scratchbox....I google it for so much time but couldn't find any solution....can anyone help??
[05:43] <grahamsavage> hi.. my internet connection has many different problems
[05:43] <comodo_dragon> hi
[05:44] <grahamsavage> the major effect it has is that it causes chrome on ubuntu to crash and slow down.. i'm unable to diagnose the cause.  For example i can download stuff a 90kbs, but a website will take 2 minutes to load.  Sometimes after resetting my computer it will load quickly, sometimes not.
[05:44] <grahamsavage> are there any tools i can use to test the speed of dns queries web requests etc?
[05:45] <grahamsavage> and how to i tell the difference between  router issue / vpn issue / isp issue / ubuntu networking problem etc
[05:48] <grahamsavage> ok dig responds quickly, wget loads relatively quickly
[05:48] <grahamsavage> google chrome is ridiculously slow
[05:48] <Rory> grahamsavage: if you go to "Network->Network proxy" (in Ubuntu not chrome) and set method to None does that help?
[05:49] <grahamsavage> Rory: it's currently set to none
[05:49] <Rory> grahamsavage: Also try disabling ipv6 if you don't use it, in "Network Manager->Edit Connections->Connection Name->Edit->IPv6 Settings->Method=ignore"
[05:49] <maum> hello
[05:49] <Oddity> hi
[05:50] <reisio> hi
[05:50] <cfhowlett> greetings
[05:50] <Rory> grahamsavage: is your "90kb/s" an example of fastness or slowness? it's all relative. For example I'd rather die than have that speed, but some would kill for it
[05:50] <grahamsavage> Rory: ipv6 is already disabled
[05:50] <maum> when I typed "gcc -v" it returns 4.7 version but now I see 4.6 version . how can I fix this?
[05:50] <grahamsavage> Rory: 90kbs is fast enough.. basically throughput is not the problem
[05:50] <Rory> maum: "now I see" what do you mean?
[05:51] <maum> Rory: it returns 4.6 version
[05:51] <Rory> maum: You just said it returns 4.7?
[05:51] <Rory> maum: What ubuntu version are you using?
[05:51] <maum> Rory: 12.10 version
[05:51] <Rory> !info gcc quantal
[05:52] <grahamsavage> Rory: it's the same in firefox as well. it just takes ages to start loading the page
[05:52] <grahamsavage> like a minute
[05:52] <Rory> maum: How did you install it?
[05:52] <maum> Rory: I downloaded gcc 4.6 version and I typed sudo make install-gcc
[05:52] <Rory> grahamsavage: Does this occur on any connection on your PC? Are you able to try a different connection by, say, taking a laptop somewhere else, or tethering your phone temporarily?
[05:53] <Rory> maum: Then you need to run the version you install directly. It's probably  in /usr/local/bin/ whereas the actual supported ubuntu version is in /usr/bin
[05:53] <Rory> I might leave briefly because battery
[05:54] <maum> Rory: how can I link it
[05:54] <Rory> maum: if you type "which gcc" you will see the path to GCC
[05:54] <ImQ009> Hello
[05:54] <reisio> 'lo ImQ009
[05:54] <Rory> maum: First can you at least get the version you want working
[05:54] <ImQ009> I've found this guide to unbrick my UEFI after installing Ubuntu on it http://www.linlap.com/fujitsu_lifebook_ah532?&#comment_7ae19c0f23cda94b44c75f4284beda30
[05:55] <ImQ009> But I'm stuck at this line here "sudo dd if=FreeDOS-1.1-USB-Boot.img of=/dev/sdb"
[05:55] <reisio> if you can unbrick it, it was never bricked
[05:55] <maum> Rory: it returns /usr/local/bin/gcc
[05:55] <reisio> ImQ009: stuck how?
[05:55] <cfhowlett> reisio, damn, THAT is an eternal quote!
[05:55] <ImQ009> The command doesn't do anything
[05:55] <ImQ009> It's supposed to flash FreeDOS on a pendrive
[05:55] <maum> Rory: I want default version 4.7 2 maybe
[05:55] <reisio> cfhowlett: yeah makes your brain like, turn gears and... dude
[05:55] <cfhowlett> ImQ009, what version of ubuntu were you installing
[05:55] <ImQ009> It says it's finished it (33MB, instantly?)
[05:55] <ImQ009> 13:04
[05:55] <reisio> ImQ009: that's normal
[05:55] <reisio> ImQ009: go to next step
[05:55] <Rory> ImQ009: Seems about right
[05:55] <ImQ009> Well, the pendrive is empty
[05:56] <reisio> ImQ009: according to what
[05:56] <ImQ009> According to system
[05:56] <reisio> ImQ009: unplug it and plug it back in
[05:56] <reisio> it won't be empty anymore
[05:56] <ImQ009> It doesn't mount anymore
[05:56] <reisio> not much point in an OS constantly polling devices to see if users manually overwrote them :p
[05:57] <maum> Rory: ?
[05:57] <reisio> ImQ009: then just go to the next step
[05:57] <ImQ009> Alright
[05:57] <Rory> maum: Where did you install version 4.7.2 ?
[05:57] <ImQ009> Just saying, a transfer speed of 413MB/s on a pendrive is kinda suspicious :P
[05:57] <maum> Rory: Can I use default path /usr/bin instead of /usr/local/bin/gcc
[05:58] <maum> Rory: 4.7.2 is the default veriosn for 12.10
[05:58] <grahamsavage> Rory: it's a bit diffciult because it's my desktop
[05:58] <grahamsavage> but yeah i suppose i coudl take it home
[05:58] <k1l_> ImQ009: is sdb you usb-device?
[05:58] <Rory> maum: It isn't, according to Ubottu
[05:58] <ImQ009> Yes, in this case sdc
[05:58] <Rory> !info gcc quantal
[05:58] <ImQ009> sdc1
[05:58] <Rory> Oh sorry maum I misread
[05:58] <reisio> ImQ009: what makes you think it was 413mb/s?
[05:58] <ImQ009> That's what dd says
[05:58] <k1l_> ImQ009: are you sure you did the right dd command?
[05:59] <Rory> maum: Did you install gcc through the package manager (sudo apt-get install gcc)
[05:59] <reisio> ImQ009: how big is the .img?
[05:59] <k1l_> ImQ009: things get cached
[05:59] <ImQ009> 32.5MB
[05:59] <maum> Rory: no, from source (4.6.3)
[05:59] <Rory> ImQ009: Can you please put the result of your DD command on http://paste.ubuntu.com
[05:59] <reisio> ImQ009: then you didn't transfer 413mb
[05:59] <Rory> maum: If you want 4.7.2 why did you compile and install 4.6.3?
[05:59] <reisio> this is the best way to sum it up: if you don't have a problem, you don't have a problem
[06:00] <ImQ009> reisio, I'm just quoting dd's output
[06:00] <reisio> wait for the problem before you fix it
[06:00] <maum> Rory: for my compiler homework
[06:00] <reisio> ImQ009: and I'm saying it's not suspicious :)
[06:00] <Rory> maum: sudo apt-get install gcc
[06:00] <maum> Rory: can i use different version?
[06:00] <Rory> maum: what version do you need?
[06:01] <maum> Rory: the default version for 12.10
[06:01] <Rory> maum: sudo apt-get install gcc
[06:01] <maum> Rory: ok
[06:01] <Rory> maum: Assuming you're using 12.10 like you said (use "cat /etc/issue" to check)
[06:02] <ImQ009> reisio, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6203731/
[06:02] <ImQ009> Rory, ^
[06:02] <Rory> maum: FYI you can install pretty much any 4.x version, look at "apt-cache search gcc-"
[06:03] <ImQ009> Ok, then
[06:03] <Rory> ImQ009: Does it work though? The proof of the pudding is in the eating
[06:03] <ImQ009> I will try proceeding to next step then
[06:03] <pero_p> hi, i want to ask is this possible to compile libraries like libfftw or other libraries compiled in i386 to different architectures? (like arm)
[06:04] <maum> Rory: Do I have to re-install gcc-4.7.2?
[06:04] <ImQ009> Rory, No, it doesn't work
[06:04] <Rory> pero_p: Yes it is, take a look at this answer: http://askubuntu.com/questions/250696/cross-compile-for-arm
[06:04] <ImQ009> I'm supposed to mount it and copy some files
[06:04] <ImQ009> But it won't mount
[06:04] <Rory> maum: No, and please stop installing things from outside the package manager if you dont know what you're doing
[06:04] <reisio> pero_p: that particularly lib is probably available precompiled, however
[06:04] <reisio> for arm
[06:04] <ImQ009> It says that contents are unknown in the disk utility
[06:05] <maum> Rory: I am in terminal
[06:05] <pero_p> thanks
[06:05] <k1l_> ImQ009: are you sure you need to dd the image into a partition and not the device?
[06:05] <ImQ009> When I tried sdc it said that medium hasn't been found
[06:05] <Rory> maum: My understanding of your problem is: you want to install gcc. You have now done so.
[06:05] <reisio> ImQ009: you sure the guide you're following assumes you're using Windows?
[06:05] <Rory> maum: I don't see the problem, to be honest
[06:05] <ImQ009> reisio, Don't look at that :P
[06:05] <ImQ009> I'm doing that on my laptop
[06:05] <vramana> Can somebody help me with grub recovery after windows installation.
[06:06] <reisio> how're you trying to mount it?
[06:06] <Rory> !grub | vramana
[06:06] <ImQ009> I just put it in
[06:06] <maum> Rory: gcc -v still returns 4.6 version but I want it returns 4.7 version
[06:06] <ImQ009> But I can't do anything with it
[06:06] <ImQ009> The option to mount it isn't there
[06:06] <Rory> maum: did you do sudo apt-get install gcc?
[06:06] <maum> Rory: yes
[06:07] <Rory> maum: What is the output of "/usr/bin/gcc -v"
[06:07] <SoulRaven> hello
[06:07] <maum> Rory: 4.7.2
[06:07] <ImQ009> Ok,
[06:07] <SoulRaven> i am try to delete all files older that 2 days, but is not working like this: find /opt/opengts/logs/*.log -mtime +2
[06:07] <ImQ009> I reformatted the pendrive on my windows machine
[06:07] <SoulRaven> only like this: find /opt/opengts/logs/*.log -mtime -2
[06:08] <ImQ009> And tried again
[06:08] <ImQ009> Now it worked
[06:08] <SoulRaven> any ideea way?
[06:08] <Rory> maum: and "which gcc" gives "/usr/local/bin/gcc" ?
[06:08] <reisio> ImQ009: gj
[06:08] <Rory> Can anyone confirm for me that /usr/local/bin/ is NOT in Quantal's default $PATH ?
[06:08] <maum> Rory: 4.6.3
[06:08] <Rory> maum: "which gcc" what does it say?
[06:09] <ImQ009> Alright
[06:09] <ImQ009> Thanks for assistance
[06:09] <maum> Rory: /usr/local/bin/gcc
[06:09] <Rory> maum: All I can suggest then is something like "sudo chmod -x /usr/local/bin/gcc"
[06:10] <vramana> I have three OS installed on my computer Ubuntu 13.04, Windows 8 and Elementary 0S 0.2 in this order on my harddrive. When I did grub recovery after windows installation. Ubuntu grub doesn't show Elementary OS?? Can somebody help me??
[06:10] <ImQ009> Ok
[06:10] <Rory> vramana: Can you please run the command: "sudo update-grub" and put the result on http://paste.ubuntu.com
[06:10] <ImQ009> Now, I need to boot from that pendrive
[06:10] <ImQ009> But Ubuntu has overwritten the boot list
[06:11] <ImQ009> So, it doesn't show anything besides "ubuntu" there
[06:11] <k1l_> ImQ009: make sure your hardware is booting from the usb
[06:11] <ImQ009> :|
[06:11] <maum> Rory: what is the command for? gcc -v returns 4.7.2
[06:11] <ImQ009> k1l_, How? :P
[06:11] <ImQ009> I'm in UEFI boot menu right now
[06:11] <vramana> Rory: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6203774/
[06:11] <ImQ009> Which is overwritten by Ubuntu
[06:11] <k1l_> ImQ009: like setting that in the BIOS or pressing some key that is mentioned in the manual
[06:12] <ImQ009> k1l_, Read up
[06:12] <comptroller> Hi everyone. I'm having an issues with the open source drivers.. whenever I try to load a game like Teeworlds or others, the game opens on both screens, stretched with a crazy wide resolution. any ideas? Unfortunately I can't use proprietary drivers because I am using an ATI HD 3870 (unsupported by FGLRX), and I have an open AskUbuntu thread here: http://askubuntu.com/questions/354674/games-open-on-two-screens-with-open-source-dr
[06:12] <comptroller> ivers
[06:12] <ImQ009> The BIOS boot menu is overwritten by Ubuntu
[06:12] <ImQ009> So it doesn'
[06:12] <maum> Rory: anyway, thank you.
[06:12] <ImQ009> So it doesn't show anything at all besides "ubuntu"
[06:12] <vramana> Rory: Elementary OS 0.2 is using Linux 3.10. in my system.
[06:13] <maum> I cannot install vmware tools for ubuntu 12.10.
[06:13] <k1l_> ImQ009: its about the hardware device to boot
[06:14] <ImQ009> k1l_, I'm confused
[06:14] <ImQ009> Because I don't know what to do
[06:15] <lotuspsychje> morning to all
[06:17] <ImQ009> k1l_, It says, I'm supposed to boot from USB by going into the BIOS boot menu
[06:17] <Rory> maum: One sec I'll explain it to you
[06:17] <ImQ009> So, I'm pressing f12, opening it up
[06:17] <ImQ009> Right? Now, I'm supposed to select my USB device
[06:17] <ImQ009> ...which again, isn't shown on the list of bootable devices
[06:18] <reisio> ImQ009: you can't override a bios or uefi boot menu
[06:18] <reisio> but that doesn't mean your device will show up in it :)
[06:18] <ImQ009> reisio, Well, if it didn't override it I wouldn't have to reflash BIOS :/
[06:18] <Rory> maum: When you run "gcc" rather than a full filename like "/usr/bin/gcc", Ubuntu looks in a few directories to see if the "gcc" program is there. You can run "echo $PATH" to see what these directories are for yourself
[06:18] <reisio> ImQ009: you're confusing mbr or something with bios
[06:18] <reisio> which could be quite a mistake
[06:19] <ImQ009> reisio, But what does it have to do with MBR? :/
[06:19] <Rory> maum: Because you installed 4.6 in /usr/local/bin and Ubuntu was looking there first, it was running that version, even though you had 4.7 installed in /usr/bin
[06:19] <reisio> ImQ009: what is it you're trying to do again?
[06:19] <ImQ009> I'm trying to reflash the BIOS
[06:19] <k1l_> ImQ009: again: are you sure to dd the .img into a partition on that usb-stick and not ont the device directly? why dont you just choose the usb-drive in the startup menue?
[06:19] <reisio> ImQ009: why?
[06:19] <ImQ009> reisio, Because Ubuntu messess EFI up on my device
[06:19] <ImQ009> And it's a known problem
[06:19] <Rory> maum: The command I gave you just removed the executable permissions from /usr/local/bin/gcc so it'll just skip to the next one in the list, in this case the version you want. You can revert the change with "sudo chmod +x /usr/local/bin/gcc"
[06:19] <reisio> that's hard to imagine, but if it's known :p
[06:20] <ImQ009> reisio, http://www.linlap.com/fujitsu_lifebook_ah532
[06:20] <lotuspsychje> ImQ009: ive installed ubuntu on a win8 uefi laptop the other day without changing anything, worked out of the box
[06:20] <Rory> vramana: Can you please pastebin the output of "sudo fdisk -l"
[06:20] <ImQ009> reisio, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/grub2/+bug/1082418
[06:20] <ImQ009> Right there [06:21] <barbarousrelic> Does the Ubuntu installer allow you to resize NTFS partitions?
[06:21] <vramana> Rory: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6203793/
[06:22] <reisio> barbarousrelic: pretty sure
[06:23] <lotuspsychje> !info gparted | barbarousrelic
[06:23] <rrm> when will the next lts come out?
[06:23] <Rory> rrm: 14.04
[06:23] <Rory> rrm: In April 2014, the clue is in the name (14.04)
[06:23] <rrm> Rory: thank you, and supported for 5 years?
[06:23] <Rory> !lts | rrm not sure
[06:24] <k1l_> rrm: yes
[06:24] <Rory> rrm: so yes on the server. 3 years on the desktop
[06:24] <rrm> i thought lts was 5 yrs desktop/server with 12.04
[06:25] <k1l_> Rory: rrm no. its 5 years for all now
[06:25] <Rory> Who runs Ubottu? I'm noticing more and more out of date factoids
[06:26] <Rory> Considering I like to be quite smug with my use of ubottu, it's important the facts are correct :P
[06:26] <lotuspsychje> Rory: #ubuntu-ops
[06:26] <k1l_> Rory: if you find those please tell in #ubuntu-irc
[06:26] <ImQ009> Ok
[06:26] <ImQ009> I shorted out CL1 and CL2 pads
[06:26] <kongthap> i have an executable call "/user/local/netbeans" how can i create an icon on the desktop for this executable???
[06:26] <ImQ009> That fixed the boot menu
[06:26] <lotuspsychje> Rory: you can use the request trigger for factoids aswell
[06:27] <lotuspsychje> Rory: tryed a few in the past, or sugestions..but they never changed
[06:27] <gordonjcp> kongthap: you shouldn't do
[06:27] <gordonjcp> kongthap: that path makes no sense
[06:27] <rrm> k1l_: you mean only LTS, not the other releases?  since i thought that is 9 months from 18 as it was before
[06:28] <k1l_> rrm: you asked about LTS support :)  that is 5 years for server and desktop
[06:28] <kongthap> gordonjcp: it's default part when i install netbeans using root
[06:28] <gordonjcp> no it isn't
[06:28] <vramana> Rory I'll be back in a few moments
[06:28] <Rory> The factoid is NOT incorrect, the exception is for 12.04. 10.04 and 14.04 are exactly as Ubottu describes
[06:29] <kongthap> gordonjcp: right now i can go to that directory and type ./netbeans, i can launch the app, but i don't know how to create an icon on the desktop
[06:29] <rrm> k1l_: thank you, that is great, no need to worry for a few years, my hardware will pass out before that
[06:29] <lotuspsychje> Rory: many factoid url's are bit outdated..
[06:30] <gordonjcp> kongthap: that path doesn't look right
[06:30] <kongthap> gordonjcp: which part looks right to you?
[06:30] <gordonjcp> kongthap: none of it
[06:31] <gordonjcp> kongthap: are you sure it's not something like /usr/local/bin/netbeans ?
[06:31] <gordonjcp> kongthap: either way, it shouldn't have /local/ in it
[06:32] <kongthap> gordonjcp: yeah, you are right, i missed "bin"
[06:32] <maum> Rory: ok
[06:32] <vramana> Rory: I am back.
[06:33] <kongthap> gordonjcp: so how can i create an icon on the desktop???
[06:33] <vramana> I am currently in running elementary OS live from usb.
[06:35] <Rory> vramana: Try this: "sudo add-apt-repository ppa:yannubuntu/boot-repair && sudo apt-get update"
[06:35] <gordonjcp> kongthap: doesn't it set one up when you install the package?
[06:36] <Rory> vramana: sudo apt-get install -y boot-repair && (boot-repair &)
[06:36] <Rory> vramana: Then click the "Recommended repair" button. When repair is finished, note the URL (paste.ubuntu.com/XXXXX) that appeared on a paper, then reboot and check if you recovered access to your OSs.
[06:36] <kongthap> gordonjcp: that's what i'm confusing, the install didn't create one for me, i've tried to search in dash too
[06:37] <gordonjcp> kongthap: how did you install it?
[06:37] <kongthap> gordonjcp: i used .sh download from oracle
[06:37] <gordonjcp> kongthap: if you built it from source and did "make install" which is what the /usr/local thing suggests, it probably won't work
[06:37] <gordonjcp> ah, no chance
[06:37]  * Paulus68_1 need a mod in #ubuntu server
[06:38] <rrm> thanks for the help, night
[06:38] <kongthap> gordonjcp: the installer installed both jdk and netbeans
[06:38]  * Paulus68_1 someone is flooding there
[06:38] <gordonjcp> kongthap: why not just use the packaged versions?
[06:38] <kongthap> gordonjcp: i don't know much about this so i just downloaded one from oracle like when i did with windows platform
[06:39] <Rootbrian> there is a tutorial on how to get java updated with the oracle tarballs.
[06:39] <gordonjcp> kongthap: yeah, don't do that
[06:40] <kongthap> gordonjcp: so in ubunto how you create an icon which link to an executable??
[06:40] <gordonjcp> kongthap: no idea, I've never done it
[06:40] <Paulus68_1> ikonia: you here
[06:41] <kongthap> gordonjcp: ok thanks anyway
[06:41] <gordonjcp> Paulus68_1: in the channel that has problems, type "!ops"
[06:41] <k1l_> paulus68: #ubuntu-ops is the op channel for the #ubuntu channels
[06:41] <gordonjcp> kongthap: it should just happen automatically when you install the app
[06:41] <kongthap> gordonjcp: i hope so, but it didn't
[06:42] <reisio> kongthap: right click somewhere, create launcher
[06:42] <gordonjcp> kongthap: you didn't install it properly
[06:42] <gordonjcp> kongthap: you need to use the proper packages, not some random thing downloaded off a dodgy website
[06:43] <kongthap> reisio: i did right click at desktop there wasn't any "create launcher"
[06:43] <Caelum> what was the nice thingie for building packages from source
[06:43] <Caelum> I used to use apt-get source, but there's a better way
[06:43] <vramana> Rory: Elementary is still missing http://paste.ubuntu.com/6203816/
[06:44] <lotuspsychje> !source | Caelum
[06:44] <Rory> vramana: Are you sure it's even installed? You didn't accidentally overwrite it when you installed Ubuntu?
[06:44] <vramana> Rory: Elementary is present on /dev/sda3..
[06:44] <Rory> pre-empted :P
[06:44] <kongthap> reisio: i use "Main Menu" i can create a launcher, the launcher can launch the app but the icon of the launcher isn't right, any ideas please?
[06:45] <k1l_> vramana: that cant be. sda3 is an extended and cant contain data itself
[06:45] <reisio> kongthap: open it with a text editor
[06:45] <reisio> kongthap: there'll be a line (or you can add one) like Icon=path
[06:45] <kongthap> reisio: do you know where the icon path of netbeans ide???
[06:46] <reisio> kongthap: dpkg -L netbeans | egrep -i 'svg|png'
[06:46] <Caelum> lotuspsychje: no there was a nicer thingie for building source debs
[06:46] <vramana> Rory: I previously had Ubuntu and Elementary I then used gparted to shrink the Ubuntu partition. and then installed windows on the new partition.
[06:47] <lotuspsychje> Caelum: a specifi package?
[06:47] <aeon-ltd> Caelum: describe more
[06:47] <kongthap> reisio: the command should display something, it display me nothing
[06:47] <fabianvampiro> hi
[06:47] <reisio> kongthap: maybe that isn't the package name
[06:47] <k1l_> vramana: you dont have elementary installed. its just ubuntu/windows/swap on sda
[06:47] <kongthap> reisio: do i need to change the working directory before using that command
[06:48] <helmut_> hi
[06:48] <fabianvampiro> How enable GUI of the network manager  in BackBox?
[06:48] <lotuspsychje> !info build-essential
[06:48] <Rory> !ot | fabianvampiro
[06:49] <vramana> k1l_: I followed this while recovering grub http://www.lancelhoff.com/restore-grub2-after-installing-windows/
[06:49] <Caelum> I think it was pbuilder
[06:49] <lotuspsychje> Caelum: maybe here? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingEasyHowTo
[06:49] <linu> hi all i have 5 mp usb camera with auto focus facility,i would like to check the zooming using v4l on my ubuntu pc, is there any commands or tools to check auto focus?
[06:49] <Rory> vramana: There's no elementary on your machine
[06:49] <Rory> vramana: I'm sorry to break it to you but... that's the case
[06:49] <k1l_> vramana: its not about grub. the blkid doesnt show and other partitions besides that 3 i mentioned
[06:49] <lotuspsychje> linu: maybe cheese can do it?
[06:50] <fabianvampiro> anyone link or channel for BackBox? Please
[06:50] <k1l_> !alis | fabianvampiro
[06:50] <lotuspsychje> !info pbuilder | Caelum
[06:50] <fabianvampiro> thx
[06:51] <Rory> fabianvampiro: irc.autistici.org #backbox
[06:51] <vramana> Rory: k1l_ Thanks...
[06:51] <Rory> Failattu: I found that on their website, I'm not impressed you didn't bother to look yourself
[06:52] <linu> lotuspsychje,no there is no options for zooming in cheese
[06:53] <lotuspsychje> linu: ok not sure wich webcam software can do more..sorry
[06:53] <vijaya> while untar showing errot like this.....Cannot open: File exists
[06:54] <linu> lotuspsychje, it ok
[06:54] <Failattu> Rory what?
[06:54] <lotuspsychje> !info camorama
[06:55] <lotuspsychje> linu: maybe this one?
[06:55] <Rory> lmao Failattu sorry not you
[06:55] <Rory> Failattu: tab fail
[06:55] <Rory> I just told off the wrong person
[06:55] <Failattu> :P
[06:56] <Failattu> yea np I was just thinking when the hell have I writen here I was not that drunk last weekend
[06:57] <munnj> when I try to run sudo I get sudo:/usr/lib/sudo/sudoers.so: no such file or directory and sudo: fatal error, unable to load plugins
[06:57] <dudleyi> The file does not exist.
[06:57] <Rory> munnj: What Ubuntu version are you using?
[06:57] <aditya_> wilee-nilee, hey u still there?
[06:58] <munnj> Rory: uname -a gives me Linux 3.2.0-29 generic #46-Ubuntu
[06:59] <munnj> I get all kinds of wierd errors aswell.
[06:59] <xmetal> lol eer get drunk and bootup your PC the next day to a distro you dont remember installing?
[06:59] <xmetal> ever
[06:59] <munnj> errors while loading shared libraries and so on
[06:59] <aditya_> xmetal, i dont drink that much
[07:00] <Failattu> xmetal: usually I just find virtual computers named according to spirtis and beer
[07:01] <Rory> munnj: When did this start happening? What is the output of "cat /etc/issue"
[07:01] <munnj> Rory last week
[07:01] <munnj> Rory: Ubuntu 12.04.1 LTS \n \1
[07:03] <Rory> munnj: I don't have that file on my system, did you do something weird to your system recently? Have you ever installed any software from outside the package manager or through a PPA?
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[07:03] <FloodBot1> Index: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:04] <skinux> Is there any bug in 13.04 that causes Ubuntu/filelight/baobob/etc to think it's low on disk space when it really isn't?
[07:04] <munnj> Rory: I cannot answer that question, we are maintainers of this system. I can ask but I cannot expect an answer any time soon and this is somewhat important.
[07:04] <jony_easyrider> recently I moved from 32 bit Ubuntu 12.04 to 64 bit 12.04. since then I got the following error when I try to mount a share specified in fstab: mount error(13): Permission denied
[07:05] <Rory> jony_easyrider: When you say "moved from" do you mean a completely clean install?
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[07:06] <maum> I cannot install vmware tools for ubuntu 12.10. someone can help me?
[07:06] <Rory> jony_easyrider: Can you please put the output from running the command: "sudo mount -a" on http://paste.ubuntu.com and put the resulting URL in channel?
[07:06] <Rory> maum: http://partnerweb.vmware.com/GOSIG/Ubuntu_12_10.html#Tools
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[07:07] <Rory> !op | Index
[07:08] <xmetal> thank you, Myrtti
[07:08] <we2> I am having trouble setting up remote logging on Ubuntu Server. https://gist.github.com/anonymous/6863632
[07:08] <maum> Rory: first of all, Do I have to download tar file?
[07:08] <munnj> Rory: can it be a failing filesystem?
[07:09] <we2> both the server and client syslog-ng.conf file's relevant contents are in the gist
[07:09] <Rory> maum: No you can go to the VM toolbar menu and select "Install VMWare tools" it will create a CD drive entry
[07:09] <we2> the server is not receiving the logs, local logging on the client is working fine
[07:10] <maum> Rory: the menu returns the message [VMware Tools installation cannot be started manually while Easy Install is in progress]
[07:10] <lotuspsychje> someone knows what the 13.04 server setup step needs ip/port/username for?
[07:10] <electron__> is it okay to share home partitions b/w distributions ? ive got ubuntu and arch and am planning to keep a common home partition for both
[07:10] <Rory> electron__: Yes but beware of configuration files
[07:11] <we2> lotuspsychje: for downloading updates during installation
[07:11] <lotuspsychje> we2: can you tell me what to fill in there?
[07:11] <Rory> electron__: You might be better off having a separate *data* partition just holding Music, Videos etc, and then creating symbolic links to their respective locations on both Arch and Ubuntu
[07:11] <Rory> electron__: That's what I do \o/
[07:11] <electron__> Rory : im not sharing users just the partition
[07:11] <electron__> should be okay ?
[07:12] <Rory> electron__: Configurations files are stored in your home directory
[07:12] <electron__> ahh ... okay
[07:12] <lotuspsychje> we2: doesnt the server install, download updates automaticly?
[07:12] <Rory> electron__: So you will probably run into issues. Not unfixable ones, but it'll be easier to do something similar to my setup above
[07:13] <electron__> Rory thanks ..
[07:13] <xmetal> i agree
[07:13] <xmetal> i have a seperate partition for those sorts of things that each OS can access
[07:13] <xmetal> if i upgrade OS oir change Distro ... those files stay where they are
[07:16] <reisio> they could stay where they are regardless
[07:16] <we2> lotuspsychje: usually the IP address is asked during the network configuration part of the installation, if on your network the IP is assigned automatically i.e., by DHCP then it should be configured automatically
[07:17] <we2> lotuspsychje: if it is asking for an IP address then maybe you have static (manual) IP Addressing
[07:17] <llutz> lotuspsychje: ip/port/username sounds like proxy-configuration. do you really need one?
[07:17] <lotuspsychje> luttz: it seems it cant skip that step?
[07:18] <Rory> I have 2 drives, one with distros, and one big mechanical one with all my actual files on it. I run this on a new distro: for i in $(ls -d /media/data/*/); do ln -s ${i%%/} ~/${i%%/}; done
[07:18] <Rory> Or someting along those lines anyway
[07:19] <llutz> lotuspsychje: sorry i don't know the server-installer. maybe go back one step and try again...
[07:19] <lotuspsychje> llutz: me neither never seen that step before, im helping in query :p
[07:20] <abac> hi I need help
[07:20] <aeon-ltd> abac: describe the problem in one line
[07:20] <abac> thanks
[07:21] <xmetal> !ask
[07:21] <aeon-ltd> uhhh they left...?
[07:21] <Rory> That happens just so, so often
[07:24] <electron__> Rory: how about keeping home in arch's root and symlinking entire user directorys to home partition in ubuntu
[07:26] <Rory> electron__: That would work but not the entire directory
[07:26] <Rory> electron__: Only the personal files
[07:26] <electron__> why not the entire directory ?
[07:26] <Rory> electron__: Otherwise those pesky config files will be symlinked too
[07:26] <Rory> electron__: for example /home/YourUsername/.config
[07:26] <electron__> hmm but okay
[07:26] <Rory> I'm not wrong
[07:27] <electron__> im just asking ..
[07:27] <Calinou> /home/YourUsername/ can be replaced with just ~
[07:27] <electron__> okay /home/user/.config is symlinked too
[07:27] <dudleyi> Why do you feel the need to cycle between Arch and Ubuntu, in the first place?
[07:27] <lotuspsychje> llutz: seems to be a step according to scsi opendriver: http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/ubuntu-linux-set-iscsi-initiator/
[07:28] <lotuspsychje> llutz: but not sure how to do this..
[07:28] <Rory> Calinou: I know it can but not everyone does and I wanted to be clear
[07:28] <we2> I am having trouble setting up remote logging on Ubuntu Server. https://gist.github.com/anonymous/6863632. Both the server and client syslog-ng.conf file's relevant contents are in the gist. The server is not receiving the logs, local logging on the client is working fine. Help!
[07:28] <llutz> lotuspsychje: if one uses iscsi one shoul know how to configure it
[07:28] <Rory> dudleyi: That doesn't matter, it's what he wants to do
[07:28] <electron__> dudleyi : im transitioning to arch
[07:28] <electron__> slowly
[07:28] <dudleyi> Why slowly?
[07:28] <Rory> dudleyi: For example, I use Arch for using, and Ubuntu for checking things for ppl in this channel
[07:29] <Rory> electron__: The best way to do it is like a plaster, just do it all in one go and it hurts less
[07:29] <jony_easyrider> Rory, yes, there was a completely reinstall. Only I copy/paste the line in fstab which refers to that network share
[07:29] <electron__> slowly because some things  i need to get it work quickly
[07:29] <Rory> jony_easyrider: OK feel free, but I'd still like to see the output from "sudo mount -a"
[07:29] <jony_easyrider> Rory, it doesn't output anything
[07:30] <Rory> jony_easyrider: That means it worked
[07:30] <electron__> Rory: no o/p
[07:30] <electron__> oh .. okay
[07:30] <Rory> jony_easyrider: The problem is the directory you're trying to mount it to is not writeable by the user you're logged in as. I know this, because when you tried to mount it as root it worked, but as a normal user you get permission denied
[07:30] <jony_easyrider> Rory, it doesn't mount the share
[07:31] <Rory> jony_easyrider: Can you show me your fstab?
[07:31] <tapout> when you hook up your logitech webcam, where can you configure the capture size and what not?  I'm using KDE
[07:31] <Rory> tapout: Webcams are configured per-application
[07:31] <electron__> Rory : just need to understand somthing ... if an entire user is symlinked why is it a problem .. the common config files like under home ( /home.config) belong to their respective distro's partitions right ?
[07:32] <reisio> tapout: for kamera?
[07:32] <Rory> electron__: Your config files are in /home/electron/
[07:32] <jony_easyrider> Rory, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6203911/
[07:32] <Rory> electron__: If you symlikn the entire /home directory or even /home/electron directory you will also be symlinking the config files
[07:32] <reisio> mplayer tv:// -tv driver=v4l2:width=1280:height=720:device=/dev/video0 -fps 15 -fs
[07:33] <electron__> Rory yes
[07:33] <Rory> electron__: YOUR config files, not the system-wide ones. Look in ~/.config to see some examples
[07:33] <Rory> jony_easyrider: Which one isn' working?
[07:33] <vramana> Rory: I want to resize and move my partition But http://imgur.com/y9xauDs seems to locked (??) can you help??
[07:33] <Rory> vramana: Right-click the Swap, do disable swap
[07:33] <electron__> yes .. and those config files under the username /home/electron_arch (arch user) will be used only by arch right ?
[07:34] <vramana> Thanks
[07:34] <Rory> electron__: Oh if the usernames are different you're good to go
[07:34] <Rory> electron__: I was assuming the username was the same on both distros
[07:34] <electron__> ah .. okay .. thanks ..
[07:35] <dudleyi> Rory: Why not run Arch, and VM ubuntu, for the sake of speed?
[07:35] <Rory> dudleyi: I have a soft spot for Ubuntu
[07:35]  * dudleyi shrugs.
[07:35] <electron__> ^ me too
[07:36] <dudleyi> I do too.
[07:36] <dudleyi> I poop out of that soft spot, though.
[07:36]  * dudleyi shrugs.
[07:36] <Rory> I feel it deserves to be a first-class-citizen on my machine, even if I never use it
[07:37] <dudleyi> I dislike Ubuntu for a myriad of reason.
[07:37] <dudleyi> I applaud it's marketing, though.
[07:38] <Rory> I was going to correct your grammaer, but technically it makes sense both ways (I applaud [that] it is marketing)
[07:38] <cjmac> dudleyi: blasphemy!
[07:39] <cjmac> dudleyi: (I kid.)
[07:39] <aeon-ltd> dudleyi: really? considering it's run by a millionaire, and most other distros run on donations and volunteers it's not that amazing
[07:39] <k1l_> hey guys: can we keep the offtopic out of the support channel? thanks
[07:39] <jony_easyrider> Rory, the last three rows
[07:39] <electron__> dudley: sometimes i need to get some package running quick ; like the other day i needed heimdall to flash a phone .. on arch i had to would have to get it from AUR and compile ..
[07:39] <dudleyi> aeon-ltd: That's neither here, nor there.
[07:40] <xmetal> i have the arch iso here (never tried it) but haven't loaded it in vm yet
[07:54] <TripSec> sudo apt-get install git, once i dl'd it how do i open it?
[07:55] <reisio> TripSec: git on its own is commandline only
[07:55] <reisio> there are a number of GUI frontends, though
[07:59] <JZA> hi I load a liveUSB using xubuntu but doing a df -h  I only see 1.5G
[07:59] <JZA> why I cant get the full 4G?
[08:01] <JZA> this is what I get on my df http://pastebin.mozilla.org/3209894
[08:02] <jony_easyrider> Rory, can U help me, please?
[08:02] <JZA> anyone?
[08:10] <llutz> JZA: 1.5G is just the size of the writable overlay filesystem. /dev/sdd1 is your 4GB-usb
[08:16] <Caelum> when I run evince it opens something called "Document Viewer", is that evince?
[08:16] <auronandace> Caelum: yes
[08:16] <Caelum> I see, thank you
[08:17] <Caelum> looks nothing like the evince I remember
[08:17] <auronandace> Caelum: perhaps you are remembering the gnome 2 days
[08:26] <jony_easyrider> recently I moved from 32 bit Ubuntu 12.04 to 64 bit 12.04. since then I got the following error when I try to mount a share specified in fstab: mount error(13): Permission denied
[08:28] <Rory> jony_easyrider: the 32 to 64 bit thing is irrelevant and will confuse people trying to help you: if you need to ask again at any point I'd leave that information out.
[08:28] <Rory> jony_easyrider: Also I don't know how to fix your issue
[08:29] <shomon> hi is there a way to run chckdsk on a drive I borked due to battery running out very quickly
[08:29] <llutz> jony_easyrider: and the corresponding fstab-entry is what?
[08:29] <shomon> without having access to dos
[08:29] <jony_easyrider> llutz, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6203911/
[08:30] <MonkeyDust> shomon  try using non-dos ways to check the disk
[08:30] <auronandace> shomon: chckdsk is windows, ask in ##windows
[08:30] <reisio> dos...
[08:30] <shomon> it says $MFTMirr does not match $MFT (record 0): Input/output error NTFS is either inconsistent or there is a hardware failure
[08:30] <shomon> but it's just a partition of the same drive
[08:30] <jony_easyrider> llutz, I don't understand, I copy-pasted those last three line from my old fstab to my new fstab
[08:30] <jony_easyrider> llutz, and it won't work
[08:30] <buu> jony_easyrider: Do you have a /root/ credentials file?
[08:30] <MonkeyDust> shomon  are you working in ubuntu?
[08:31] <buu> jony_easyrider: Can you manually mount them?
[08:32] <k1l_> jony_easyrider: can you make a "mount- a" and show the errormessages in a pastebin?
[08:32] <jony_easyrider> buu, yes, I have them in the /root/.cifscredentials
[08:32] <jony_easyrider> k1l_, it doesn't show anything
[08:33] <buu> jony_easyrider: Are the things now mounted?
[08:33] <Axlin> shomon: fsck, if this is a Linux-formatted partition you're checking.
[08:33] <buu> jony_easyrider: does dmesg say anything?
[08:33] <k1l_> jony_easyrider: do the mountpoints in /mnt/ exist?
[08:33] <buu> jony_easyrider: If you manually run the commands do they work?
[08:34] <comstox> can i get permissions to see my home directory from the liveCD?
[08:34] <jony_easyrider> buu, how can I manually mount those?
[08:35] <reisio> comstox: just have to mount it
[08:36] <buu> jony_easyrider: sudo mount -t cifs //... /mnt/... -o stuff
[08:36] <NET||abuse> Hi folks, I installed cpufreqd and indicator-cpufreq-selector and i want to test if it's working, how can i verify it's actions?
[08:37] <MonkeyDust> !info indicator-cpufreq-selector
[08:37] <shomon> MonkeyDust, yes
[08:38] <shomon> how can I tell if it's softraid or fakeraid?
[08:38] <MonkeyDust> shomon  then use Axlin 's suggestion
[08:39] <MonkeyDust> shomon  start from the beginning, what do you want to do, what have you tried and what goes wrong
[08:41] <comstox> Hey all, got stuck in a login loop where when I attempt to enter password it takes me back to the login screen, and at the same time Ctrl-ALT-F1-F6 don't take me to console mode, any suggestions?
[08:41] <eeos> hi everybody! I have a surreal problem: after last kernel upidate, when I click on the THIRD button of the mouse (the RIGHt button) the laptop goes to sleep. Any clue?
[08:42] <reisio> comstox: could be X is failing
[08:42] <reisio> comstox: could grep EE /var/log/Xorg*log from live OS
[08:42] <dings> eeos: no, but I'm guessing that is somewhat annoying =)  (sorry)
[08:42] <eeos> it is extremly annoying dings
[08:43] <eeos> dings: do you know where are the keybindings stored?
[08:43] <dings> eeos: my only suggestion is looking at xmodmap
[08:44] <eeos> dings: thanks
[08:44] <Psil0Cybin> hey guys when i take a look @ /etc/resolv.conf it says my DNS server is 127.0.0.1 is that normal? does that mean that DNS is working correctly? Ubuntu has its own DNS Server??
[08:46] <llutz> Psil0Cybin: yes, since a while they use dnsmasq as dns-cache on localhost
[08:46] <Psil0Cybin> llutz: does this update with new domain names / etc? should i leave it alone if my internet is fine
[08:46] <Psil0Cybin> speed wise
[08:46] <jony_easyrider> /192.168.10.8/Documentation_Server /mnt/docsrv01_Documentation_Server cifs noauto,iocharset=utf8,uid=jony,gid=users,credentials=/root/.cifscredentials,file_mode=0775,dir_mode=0775 0 0
[08:46] <Psil0Cybin> sorry dont know alot about dns.
[08:47] <jony_easyrider> buu, pls help me to mount that manually
[08:47] <llutz> Psil0Cybin: if your internet is fine, just ignore it
[08:47] <Psil0Cybin> cool but new sites and domain names shold work? How does that work does it update?
[08:47] <Rory> jony_easyrider: Can the user "jony" run the command: cat /root/.cifscredentials
[08:47] <Psil0Cybin> or grab it from a site if it does not recognize it?
[08:48] <jony_easyrider> Rory, cat: /root/cifscredentials: Permission denied
[08:52] <Rory> jony_easyrider: That's why. You need to put your credentials somewhere where the user jony can read it
[08:52] <buu> jony_easyrider: sudo mount -t cifs //192.168.10.8/Documentation_Server /mnt/docsrv01_Documentation_Server -o noauto -o iocharset=utf8 -o uid=jony -o gid=users -o credentials=/root/.cifscredentials -o file_mode=0775
[08:52] <Rory> jony_easyrider: Also
[08:52] <buu> I think there's a typo in there someplace
[08:52] <Rory> jony_easyrider: You didn't run the command I asked you to
[08:52] <Rory> jony_easyrider: Can the user "jony" run the command: cat /root/.cifscredentials
[08:55] <buu> jony_easyrider: Did it work?
[09:05] <jxjl> hi is it possible to create virtual desktop in window with own cursor and run app inside it?
[09:06] <Lacko> virtualbox?
[09:06] <jxjl> no, just second xsession
[09:07] <jxjl> running in window instead of fullscreen
[09:07] <Svetlana> jxjl, https://help.ubuntu.com/13.10/ubuntu-help/shell-workspaces.html ? or have a second Os user and log in to that ?
[09:07] <MonkeyDust> jxjl  you can alos try to setup a chroot and run X with it
[09:07] <MonkeyDust> also*
[09:07] <Svetlana> jxjl, tightvncserver can run in own window (it is a server of sorts itself)
[09:08] <jxjl> no I want just to start another xorg session in window (for example on kde desktop open new xfce session in window)
[09:08] <llutz> !info xserver-xephyr | jxjl this might help
[09:09] <dings> jxjl: perhaps you could trick it with xnest in some way.
[09:09] <ActionParsnip> jxjl: what will you do one you get connected to the remote desktop?
[09:09] <jxjl> thanks, does it have its own cursor?
[09:09] <Lacko> Xnest -query hostname
[09:09] <Rory> jxjl: I'd recommend Virtualbox, honestly
[09:10] <jxjl> thank you for help, I'll try
[09:11] <Psil0Cybin> hey guys quick question
[09:12] <lakmuz> hello, how to install svn 1.8.3 on 13.04?
[09:12] <Psil0Cybin> im using gpg to encrypt a sentence i want to sent to my friend
[09:12] <eeos> dings: mmmm .... nothing, I do not seem to see anything using xmodmap
[09:12] <eeos> dings: I do not understand what is going on.
[09:12] <Psil0Cybin> where do i put his public key? in order to use gpg -aes username
[09:13] <jxjl> llutz: thank you very much, xephyr does exactly what I needed
[09:14] <llutz> jxjl: nice
[09:15] <Lacko> hw do i ubntu
[09:17] <eeos> sorry to bother again! I have a surreal problem an dI cannot find a solution on google or anywhere else: after last kernel update, when I click on the THIRD button of the mouse (the RIGHt button) the laptop goes to sleep. Any clue?
[09:17] <MonkeyDust> Lacko  create a live cd or usb, boot ubuntu, learn how to use it
[09:18] <llutz> Psil0Cybin: "gpg --import usernames.keyfile"
[09:18] <Lacko> It's amazing how serious people are in this chatroom, I love it.
[09:18] <Psil0Cybin> llutz and how do i export my public keyfile to send to a friend from the Password GUI app in Ubuntu
[09:19] <Psil0Cybin> when i go to Passwords and Keys the GUI and go to my personal keys
[09:19] <Psil0Cybin> and right click my key and click export
[09:19] <Psil0Cybin> it gives it to me as a .asc
[09:19] <Psil0Cybin> so i dunno if im giving my private key or public :S
[09:19] <llutz> Psil0Cybin:  don't know the gui, it _should_ be the public
[09:20] <gordonjcp> Psil0Cybin: what exactly are you trying to do?
[09:20] <Psil0Cybin> i wanna send encrypted messages with my cuzin for Google talk, so i made a private key for gpg to use gpg -aer username to send an ecrypted message
[09:20] <Psil0Cybin> so im assuming we need to exchange public keys
[09:20] <Psil0Cybin> so i can do gpg -aer hisusername
[09:20] <Psil0Cybin> and then type in the message
[09:21] <Psil0Cybin> and he would do
[09:21] <Psil0Cybin> gpg-aer myusername
[09:21] <FloodBot1> Psil0Cybin: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:21] <bazhang> Psil0Cybin, use commas NOT enter
[09:23] <llutz> Psil0Cybin: "gpg --armor --output mykey.asc --export you@foo.bar"  or use keyserver to export/import keys
[09:26] <arussel> I'm writing a sh script that will be run as root. I want part of the script to be run as user foo, so I added a line: 'su foo' and was expecting the following line to be run as foo. But doing ech `whoami` returns root.
[09:26] <arussel> what am I doing wrong ?
[09:27] <llutz> arussel: su foo -c "commands run by foo here"
[09:27] <arussel> llutz: can't I have it for all following command ? I've got like 20 commands
[09:29] <llutz> arussel: put the 20 commands into bar.sh and use su foo -c bar.sh
[09:30] <arussel> llutz: makes sense, thanks for your help
[09:30] <geirha> or prepend  sudo -u foo  to each command
[09:34] <jack> could do sudo -u bla (cmd1 && cmd2...)
[09:34] <jack> bash allows bracketing :P
[09:35] <Oli``> or wrap it up: su -c 'bash -c "thing; something else; blah blah"' user
[09:37] <eeos> is there a  way of excluding the sleep / hibernate option on a laptop?
[09:37] <yezariaely1> an apt-get upgrade changed permissions of a socket file. Anyone knows how I could get to know which package was responsible?
[09:37] <jack> Oli, yeah - ; is better than &&
[09:37] <jack> no conditionality :)
[09:38] <Oli> yezariaely1: if the socket if somehow included with a package (shouldn't be, that would be odd IMO) `dpkg -S /path/to/file` would tell you the package that owns the file.
[09:39] <yezariaely1> Oli: no path found matching pattern.
[09:39] <Oli> Otherwise it's something included in a pre/post-inst script. I'd Google for it and you'll probably find the code responsible for doing the chmod.
[09:40] <Oli> Or it could be the application protecting its own socket for you
[09:40] <yezariaely1> Oli: it seems to be a broken script as the owner's name of the file is 4755 (which probably is a chown command instead of a chmod)
[09:40] <yezariaely1> thx
[09:41] <munnj> How do I deal with this when running sudo? /usr/lib/sudo/sudoers.so no such file or directory
[09:42] <llutz> yezariaely1: grep -r 'path/to/socket' /var/lib/dpkg/info/              might give an idea
[09:43] <gordonjcp> munnj: that's a very unusual error
[09:43] <munnj> gordonjcp: haha, ok.
[09:43] <gordonjcp> munnj: can you think of anything that might have caused that to happen?
[09:43] <buu> munnj: How did you install sudo?
[09:43] <munnj> Nope, I cannot think of anything. This is just a webbserver
[09:43] <munnj> something have snapped that's for sure
[09:44] <Oli> munnj: I assume you can't sudo things so you'd need to reboot into recovery mode (then remount root as writable: `mount -o remount,rw /`) and then I'd play around with reinstalling or dpkg-reconfigure sudo
[09:44] <munnj> yeah Oli. You're right I cannot use sudo. Hmm, wonder how I boot into recovery mode on a virtual server
[09:45] <Oli> It's a webserver and you've lost sudo? I'd be suspicious of a hacked system protecting itself from being wiped.
[09:45] <munnj> Perhaps, it's in russia so I wouldn't be suprised.
[09:45] <munnj> There has been no deface what so ever.
[09:45] <munnj> Yet :D
[09:45] <Oli> munnj: Not easily. Linode will give you virtual physical access but I don't know if other providers to.
[09:46] <Oli> munnj: Defacing is destructuve for everybody involved... If it's been hacked it'll be part of a botnet.
[09:46] <munnj> can you once inside the system reboot into recovery without sudo?
[09:46] <Oli> munnj: no, it's a grub option
[09:46] <yezariaely1> llutz: thx.
[09:48] <Oli> munnj: As I say, this is all provider specific. It seems that many providers seem to have an option for rebooting into a recovery mode of some sort but I wouldn't know what to tell you to look for.
[09:49] <amitprakash> Hi, apt-cache search bugzilla doesn't return the bugzilla package, this is on a ubuntu ec2 instance.. what source do I need to add for aptitude to recognize the package?
[09:49] <munnj> Oli: I will look into it
[09:49] <Oli> amitprakash: bugzilla isn't packaged
[09:49] <amitprakash> Oli, http://packages.ubuntu.com/lucid/bugzilla3
[09:49] <amitprakash> that seems to say it is
[09:50] <Oli> For lucid
[09:50] <Oli> In 2004
[09:50] <amitprakash> oh okay
[09:50] <ActionParsnip> !info bugzilla3
[09:50] <lakmuz> how to install libdb4.8 on ubuntu 13.04?
[09:50] <ActionParsnip> !info bugzilla3 quantal
[09:50] <ActionParsnip> !info bugzilla3 precise
[09:50] <Oli> http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=bugzilla
[09:51] <amitprakash> fair enough
[09:51] <ActionParsnip> !find libdb raring
[09:51] <Paulus68_1> how can I install ubuntu server 13.04 on a HP proliant ML310? I have problems with the on board iSCSI raid configuration
[09:53] <ActionParsnip> lakmuz: https://launchpad.net/~yacoin/+archive/yacoin?field.series_filter=raring   is that it?
[09:54] <ActionParsnip> Paulus68_1: http://h20566.www2.hp.com/portal/site/hpsc/public/psi/swdHome/?sp4ts.oid=3580656&ac.admitted=1381139612000.876444892.199480143
[09:54] <ActionParsnip> Paulus68_1: seems to have an Ubuntu driver
[10:01] <anon12> Tasksel uninstalled unity and installed ubuntu studio (not as a new install, programs are still the same with exception of adding more and removing some), how do I undo this and return to the standard ubuntu (with unity) ?
[10:02] <k1l_> anon12: install ubuntu-desktop
[10:03] <anon12> sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop?
[10:03] <k1l_> yep
[10:04] <anon12> Will that mess up my current install?
[10:04] <anon12> like a new install does
[10:04] <Neptu> Hej someone knows how to service mongodb stop so it will not be started on next restart on rc??
[10:04] <k1l_> a new install messes something up? o_O
[10:04] <badcom> Hi all!
[10:05] <anon12> deletes old settings and programs
[10:05] <badcom> Why would the following cron skip the 00:05 run but do all the others? 5,35 * * * * wget -O /dev/null http://xxx.xxxxx.xxx
[10:05] <k1l_> anon12: its a meta-package. it will not uninstall anything until its conflicts with packages that should be installed.
[10:05] <Paulus68_1> ActionParsnip: thx
[10:06] <anon12> the ubuntu studio package removed unity and thunderbird
[10:07] <anon12> I am going to restart and see if it works
[10:12] <NET||abuse> hi folks, i've a usb3 dell monitor, and 2 calbes, one seems to work, but the other usb3 cable doesn't, both are the ones with the big square head on the monitor end with 2 sets of pins, bigger than the old usb2 heads you used to see on usb printers and things, the monitor has 4 usb ports and an sd card reader.. i put a mouse in to the monitor and it doesn't work with the second cable, but does with the
[10:12] <NET||abuse> first..
[10:12] <NET||abuse> the output of the syslog for the usb plugin event of the monitor cable is here http://pastebin.com/SYBs1KQi
[10:13] <NET||abuse> is this just an incompatible cable or is it worth bringing the cable back to maplins and changing for a new one?
[10:17] <hubtrex> 2 unrelated questions: A) does reducing cd burning speed reduce risk of errors?  B) is it possible to install an app on an ubuntu machine that cannot be connected to the internet? (by bringing the packages with flash drive say?)
[10:18] <k1l_> yes and yes
[10:18] <llutz> hubtrex: A on cheap media, maybe B yes, you need to get the package and ALL dependencies
[10:18] <k1l_> packages.ubuntu.com for packages hubtrex
[10:22] <hubtrex> thank you. for B how do i go on installing the packages and the dependencies then?
[10:23] <llutz> hubtrex: sudo dpkg -i /wherever/the/debs/are/*.dpkg
[10:23] <llutz> hubtrex: sudo dpkg -i /wherever/the/debs/are/*.deb
[10:23] <llutz> sry
[10:23] <TJ-> !apt-offline | hubtrex
[10:24] <TJ-> hubtrex: Check out the apt-offline package
[10:25] <hubtrex> ok thank you
[10:25] <kyokushin> Hallo all
[10:26]  * kyokushin wassup ?
[10:26] <kyokushin> !ping
[10:34] <Guest62080> help
[10:35] <cfhowlett> !ask|Guest62080,
[10:36] <angs> I use tar -xJF file.tar.xz but it says tar: Cannot use multi-volume compressed archives
[10:37] <angs> but here it says this is the solution http://askubuntu.com/questions/92328/how-do-i-uncompress-a-tarball-that-uses-xz
[10:37] <ActionParsnip> angs: try installing unp and use taht
[10:37] <angs> ok thanks
[10:37] <Guest62080> linode keeps blocking the ip
[10:37] <llutz> angs: tar -xJf foo.tar.xz   lowercase f
[10:37] <Guest62080> Get linode to unblock the ip
[10:37] <ActionParsnip> unp is easier :)
[10:38] <ActionParsnip> use it for everything
[10:38] <angs> it works now thank you llutz as well :)
[10:38] <Guest62080> www.unitednuclear.org
[10:38] <llutz> until you'll find yourself on a system with only the core tools ActionParsnip :=)
[10:38] <munnj> how can I tell I am in recovery mode if I only have access to a terminal?
[10:39] <ActionParsnip> llutz: oh yeah, thats given but unp is dead handy
[10:39] <k1l_> munnj: it logs into root account in recovery
[10:39] <munnj> k1l_ ok
[10:39] <Guest62080> I need more power
[10:39] <Guest62080> help
[10:40] <llutz> ActionParsnip: agreed
[10:40] <ActionParsnip> Guest62080: can you expand the question please
[10:40] <Guest62080> ActionParsnip: Get linode to unblock the ip
[10:41] <llutz> !ot | Guest62080
[10:41] <Guest62080> I own linode
[10:41] <ActionParsnip> Guest62080: how is this Ubuntu related?
[10:41] <Guest62080> I want to download an ubuntu image from linode
[10:41] <ActionParsnip> Guest62080: then wget it or use a browser. This has nothing to do with power.
[10:42] <munnj> k1l_ I was thinking of running a fsck. However the disks are mounted so I shall proceed with a normal boot while in the recovery menu and then unmount them?
[10:42] <TJ-> Guest62080: Ask in the #linode channel on the OFTC IRC network, or open a Linode support ticket
[10:42] <k1l_> Guest62080: talk to the linode support.
[10:42] <k1l_> munnj: load a live-system with a cd or usb-stick. then run a check from that live system
[10:43] <Guest62080> OFTC banned the ip
[10:43] <TJ-> Guest62080: That somehow doesn't surprise me. Open a Linode support ticket then.
[10:43] <llutz> without a reason of course
[10:43] <k1l_> Guest62080: then talk to oftc and to the linode support. but its offtopic in here. EOD
[10:43] <ActionParsnip> Guest62080: then contact them to get it lifted....
[10:43] <joe18> how do i install ubuntu on my nexus 7? the files the installer depends on are no longer where the wiki says they are
[10:44] <Guest62080> I delegate that duty to you
[10:44] <Guest62080> get it lifted
[10:44] <k1l_> joe18: talking about ubuntu-touch? or a desktop insatll?
[10:44] <joe18> k1l_: desktop install, i think
[10:44] <k1l_> !ot > Guest62080 had enough warnings
[10:45] <k1l_> joe18: then ask in #ubuntu-arm please
[10:49] <ingo__> Hi! I am trying to get Google Play Movies working in saucy. Unfortunately the hal package is missing which is needed for the Adobe DRM. Is there a workaround?
[10:51] <leeooo> aa
[10:51] <dings> =)
[10:52] <shahramkiarousta> hi
[10:52] <dings> eeos: sorry, I don't have any suggestions.
[10:55] <shahramkiarousta> 1123 hay salam kir mikhaee khoshgelehhhh
[10:57] <calimero_82> hi, my audio doesn't work, i ve ubuntu 12.04
[10:58] <Xkatdr> Install audio codec or vlc dude.
[11:01] <shahramkiarousta> halana]pas kirno
[11:04] <cfhowlett> !english|shahramkiarousta,
[11:05] <cfhowlett> !details|calimero_82, no audio at all or just sometimes???
[11:05] <munnj> When I try to run apt-get I get this error:  Could not find platform independent libraries <prefix> Could not find platform dependent libraries <exec_prefix> Consider setting $PYTHONHOME to <prefix>[:<exec_prefix>]
[11:05] <Paddy_NI> !dvd > Paddy_NI
[11:05] <munnj> How can I fix this?
[11:07] <zhuyaxu> ?
[11:07] <zhuyaxu> 有中国人吗
[11:08] <Oli> munnj: If this is the same computer as earlier, I'd be looking to extract all the data and start with a fresh install.
[11:08] <Myrtti> !cn | zhuyaxu
[11:08] <fetoega> hi
[11:08] <fetoega> Is it possible to run precise on haswell? it seems none of my 3 nics are supported by 12.04 kernel.
[11:09] <Oli> fetoega: I believe it runs but you'll probably want the HWE kernels for graphics performance.
[11:09] <Oli> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/LTSEnablementStack
[11:09] <fetoega> is there an updated netboot image with a more recent kernel that supports atheros 61** network cards?
[11:10] <munnj> Oli: it is the same
[11:10] <munnj> am in the root console now i nthe recovery mode
[11:10] <fetoega> 816*
[11:11] <Paddy_NI> Hello I need to burn/convert and .MP4 video file to a DVD which can be played on a standard dvd player.  It's been so long since I have used DVDs and even longer since I have had to transcode to another video format that I have completely forgotten how
[11:11] <Paddy_NI> *an mp4
[11:11] <cfhowlett> Paddy_NI, ffmpeg will transcode
[11:12] <kostkon> Paddy_NI, give devede a try
[11:12] <kostkon> !info devede
[11:12] <munnj> Oli: you're saying the system is toast?
[11:13] <Paddy_NI> kostkon: Yeah I remember devede always took forever but I guess I am desperate
[11:13] <Paddy_NI> cfhowlett: I have never got the hang of ffpmpeg
[11:13] <Paddy_NI> ffmpeg rather
[11:13] <Oli> munnj: Even if it hasn't been hacked, you're running into multiple corruption issues. I'm saying it'd probably be easier and safer to start afresh
[11:14] <munnj> I've never been so paralyzed with a root account before
[11:14] <cfhowlett> Paddy_NI, to transcode is quite easy.  ffmpeg -i inputvideo.mp4 outputvideo.avi
[11:14] <cfhowlett> or similar
[11:14] <Paddy_NI> cfhowlett: From experience it always results in a poorer quality file
[11:14] <scott3> hi
[11:15] <Paddy_NI> In my experience that is
[11:15] <Oli> fetoega: Are you running 12.04.3 (the latest download) or an earlier build? It seems that ships with 3.8 (the latest HWE stack) so I'm talking nonsense anyway.
[11:15] <kostkon> Paddy_NI, lossy to lossy obviously the video loses some quality
[11:16] <Paddy_NI> kostkon: I don't see how that is obvious
[11:16] <Paddy_NI> kostkon: Take a file as input and make it another file
[11:17] <gordonjcp> Paddy_NI: so, if you use lossy compression to recompress a file, why isn't it obvious that you'd lose quality?
[11:17] <scott3> My computer is broken so I need to copy my files. My home directory is encrypted, I dont have the recovery passphrase but I do have the password I normally login with. Will I be able to decrypt it?
[11:17] <Paddy_NI> gordonjcp: I am looking to convert MP4 to DVD
[11:17] <Paddy_NI> Not avi
[11:19] <andreiiar> Hello. I installed lubuntu on my pendrive but I have problems switching from pc to pc
[11:20] <seriously_random> would anyone mind looking at my xorg.log and telling me if radeon driver is using integrated or dedicated gpu?
[11:20] <seriously_random> http://pastebin.com/F9FgVdTF
[11:22] <scott3> (scott3) My computer is broken so I need to copy my files. My home directory is encrypted, I dont have the recovery passphrase but I do have the password I normally login with. Will I be able to decrypt it?
[11:24] <buu> Quick, I need an alarm program!
[11:25] <gulag2013> scott3, I'm not the most qualified to answer your question, if you get yourself a a sata to usb adapter, you maybe able to login making the drive external on a different machine,
[11:25] <llutz> buu: sleep 25m;beep
[11:25] <buu> I knew someone would say that.
[11:25] <buu> llutz: sleep x; cat /dev/urandom > /dev/snd
[11:25] <buu> Would be more fun
[11:27] <scott3> thanks gulag. i was going to borrow someone elses pc and plug the hdd into the machine
[11:28] <gordonjcp> Paddy_NI: and?
[11:28] <gordonjcp> Paddy_NI: DVD compression is lossy
[11:28] <gulag2013> Good plan, as long as you can get in with your normal password, it should be good.
[11:28] <Paddy_NI> gordonjcp: Why would I need to compress it?
[11:28] <gordonjcp> Paddy_NI: you're making a DVD, right?
[11:28] <Paddy_NI> gordonjcp: The file is only a couple of hundred megabytes
[11:28] <kostkon> Paddy_NI, a dvd video disc is just a data dvd with the mpeg2 video and some extra files. mpeg2 is a lossy format
[11:29] <Paddy_NI> vob files are mp2?
[11:29] <kostkon> Paddy_NI, yes. encrypted mpeg2
[11:29] <ActionPa1snip> Paddy_NI: could use devede to make a video dvd of video clip files
[11:29] <gordonjcp> Paddy_NI: so you need to compress it to MPEG2
[11:32] <buu> Turns out the best one is named alarm-clock
[11:32] <buu> Who knew
[11:33] <andreiiar> I can't decide on one thing. I have a 16GB flash I want lubuntu on it. I installed it normaly but whenver I went to a new computer I had problems with booting it up. I formated the usb dongle and tryed to install it with universal usb installer but I can only make 4GB persistence space
[11:33] <Authentic> could anyone PM me for some help with selfhosted server
[11:33] <ActionPa1snip> buu: there is no single best, it may be bst to you though :)
[11:33] <buu> IT IS THE BEST
[11:33] <buu> I HAVE DECLARED IT
[11:33] <ActionPa1snip> Authentic: server of what
[11:33] <FloodBot1> buu: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:33] <ActionPa1snip> buu: funny :)
[11:33] <Authentic> web
[11:33] <Authentic> apache
[11:33] <ActionPa1snip> Authentic: install apache2 and you have a web serve
[11:33] <ActionPa1snip> r
[11:33] <Authentic> lol
[11:34] <Authentic> already have apache2
[11:34] <ActionPa1snip> Authentic: why lol?
[11:34] <ActionPa1snip> Authentic: then you have a webserver.   access it via:  http://localhost
[11:34] <Authentic> I've tried apache 2, lampp, bitnami
[11:34] <Authentic> no one of them works
[11:34] <ActionPa1snip> Authentic: can you access it via localhost
[11:34] <Authentic> there are something seriously wrong the the filepermissions
[11:35] <buu> Authentic: What errors are you seeing?
[11:35] <buu> Authentic: How are you testing it?'
[11:35] <ActionPa1snip> Authentic: you should see 'It Works!'
[11:35] <Authentic> even I set this whole damn box on 777 ot won't let me do anything
[11:35] <buu> Authentic: You aren't being specific
[11:35] <TJ-> Authentic: Read the log-files the daemon writes to, which will indicate the errors, then use that information to correct the problem.
[11:35] <buu> Authentic: Tell us exactly what you've done, exactly what you expect and exactly what you see
[11:36] <groundnuty_> test
[11:36] <groundnuty_> hey, I have a account on debian server. is there a way I can install packages on my account withotu having root? I used to make it with configure -prefix=.... but its pain when updating/removing...
[11:36] <ActionPa1snip> groundnuty_: debian isnt supported here
[11:36] <groundnuty_> ActionPa1snip: ok ubuntu then :)
[11:36] <k1l_> groundnuty_: ask the debian support how to handle that: #debian
[11:36] <ActionPa1snip> groundnuty_: ask in #debian for debian support
[11:37] <groundnuty_> ActionPa1snip: question is more apt-get specyfic
[11:37] <groundnuty_> i think
[11:37] <ActionPa1snip> groundnuty_: doesnt matter, its still debian so not supported here
[11:37] <ActionPa1snip> groundnuty_: its that black and white
[11:37] <k1l_> groundnuty_: its not. debian and ubuntu do handle their root accounts in a  different way
[11:37] <kostkon> groundnuty_, different repos different versions of pacakges, we can't really help you
[11:38] <calimero_82> i've installed vlc but my audio doesn't work
[11:38] <calimero_82> what should i do?
[11:38] <groundnuty_> ok i will come here in 2 days and ask the same question with /ubuntu/ insted of debian...
[11:38] <groundnuty_> srsly, questions is not distro specyfic
[11:38] <Authentic> first of I had this web page. then I installed a security plugin with caused my whole wordpress site to crash. spent 2 weeks trying to manually restore the page copying all the content manually from mysql and installed wordpress from scratch, but it could not work. I couldt not upload, change read or write anything. re installed the entire computer and now I have tried with xampp, apache2 and bitnami
[11:38] <ActionPa1snip> groundnuty_: but the channel is distro specific
[11:38] <k1l_> groundnuty_: m(
[11:39] <k1l_> groundnuty_: then ask in ##linux
[11:39] <Authentic> all of them giving me problems I have never seen before. there some bullshit about all the new updates
[11:39] <Authentic> nuting working anymore. I don't get it. been doing this for years. wtf
[11:39] <groundnuty_> but when I will as for help here using ubuntu word then I might get any insted of the wall: not our distro get out ;>
[11:39] <groundnuty_> kinda not nice
[11:39] <fetoega> where can i get a 12.4.3 netboot image?  the only ones i found on the page is 12.4.0
[11:39] <Authentic> I refuse to go over to windos.
[11:39] <Authentic> hell no
[11:39] <ActionPa1snip> Authentic: if you can give specifics we can advise, if you just say "it's broken" how can we possibly advise
[11:40] <Authentic> windows*
[11:40] <ActionPa1snip> Authentic: think about it
[11:40] <ActionPa1snip> Authentic: then idle threats of Windows...what does that do?
[11:40] <ActionPa1snip> Authentic: give details. We need details to help you
[11:40] <ActionPa1snip> Authentic: what have you done? What settings have you changed?
[11:41] <ActionPa1snip> Authentic: stuff like taht rather tahn pathetic rants which achieve zero
[11:46] <linux_unix-10> hello
[11:46] <BluesKaj> Howdy all
[11:46] <ActionPa1snip> hi BluesKaj
[11:46] <BluesKaj> hey ActionPa1snip
[11:53] <Bombo> how do i install all dependencies of a .deb file? i did 'dpkg -i foo.deb' it complains about deps, when i do 'apt-get -f install' it just removes the package, it does not instal missing deps...
[11:54] <gulag2013> Install it using synaptic package manager,  just my guess.
[11:55] <Paddy_NI> gordonjcp: This is a nice explanation http://superuser.com/questions/299550/how-to-convert-any-video-to-dvd-vob-in-good-video-quality
[11:55] <Oli> Bombo: The repos will try to provide the dependencies automagically but if they can't, you'll need to provide debs for them too.
[11:58] <Paddy_NI> ActionPa1snip: thanks for your suggestion too :-)
[11:58] <Bombo> Oli: hmm
[11:59] <Bombo> trying to install http://www.instantreality.org/downloads/ InstantReality-Ubuntu-12.04-x64-2.3.0.25322.deb on 12.10
[12:02] <marcus> hi all. as xmir seems to be dropped for 13.10, i would like to ask if there are any plans for 14.04 available yet?
[12:03] <Oli> Bombo: Yeah it seems to depend on fairly version specific packages (libboost-filesystem1.46.1 for one) which have been updated in newer Ubuntu versions.
[12:04] <kostkon> !info libboost-filesystem quantal
[12:05] <Oli> Yeah, everything else can be satisfied, it's just the dependencies on libboost packages. I'm not even sure if it's safe to install another version alongside (it'll probably conflict). You could install the 12.10 versions of libbost packages and try making dummy packages to satisfy the deps but again, no idea if that'll work.
[12:05] <ActionPa1snip> Paddy_NI: np bro
[12:06] <Jet4Fire> hi all
[12:06] <Bombo> Oli: no idea how i could do that..
[12:08] <Oli> Well for the first bit by installing the various packages you have available that it needs  libboost-program-options libboost-filesystem libboost-date-time libboost-regex libboost-python
[12:09] <Bombo> i could write a complaint into their forum ;)
[12:09] <Oli> And then faking supplied dependencies with equivs: http://askubuntu.com/questions/29918/how-to-trick-apt-dependencies/29921#29921
[12:09] <ActionPa1snip> Oli: what is the output of:   cat /etc/issue
[12:09] <Oli> Bombo: That might work too
[12:10] <Oli> ActionPa1snip: You really mean me?
[12:10] <ActionPa1snip> Oli: who has the issue needing libboost-program-options ?
[12:11] <ActionPa1snip> Bombo: what is the output of:  cat /etc/issue
[12:11] <ActionPa1snip> Oli: I got it ;)
[12:11] <Oli> ActionPa1snip: Bombo - there's an application that they're trying to install that needs a version specific package (ie the version is in the package name) but it isn't available for 12.10... It's all here in the last 20 or so lines.
[12:11] <Bombo> $ cat /etc/issue
[12:11] <Bombo> Ubuntu 12.10 \n \l
[12:12] <adac> #git
[12:13] <ActionPa1snip> marcus: I'd ask in #ubuntu+1
[12:13] <ActionPa1snip> !info libboost-date-time-dev
[12:16] <babinlonston> there are 20 machines in a local area network and all machines are installed with ubuntu 12.04
[12:17] <babinlonston> now i want to access the current users screen graphically how can i get connect and they too need to work at same time
[12:17] <cfhowlett> babinlonston, might be a good query for #ubuntu-server ... or is it a LTSP administration issue?
[12:17] <cfhowlett> !ltsp
[12:17] <ActionPa1snip> babinlonston: vnc can do that, is this to effectively spy on them?
[12:20] <babinlonston> ActionPa1snip: i dont want to spy if there is some issue on there pc i need to solve it from my desk its my need ...
[12:20] <cfhowlett> so ... "monitor" is the correct verb?
[12:21] <ActionPa1snip> babinlonston: then id go for vnc
[12:21] <babinlonston> ActionPa1snip: what i need to do step by step for that
[12:23] <xereuf> is lubuntu lxle ( http://lxle.net/ ) official?
[12:23] <xereuf> looks like it is... they use lubuntu logos and all that... no rebranding...
[12:24] <k1l_> lubuntu is official. dont know what lxle should be
[12:24] <cfhowlett> xereuf, no it's not an official distro ..
[12:24] <xereuf> can you get support for it here?
[12:24] <k1l_> "LXLE is simply a respun Lubuntu OS with different goals." so its a wall-lubuntu :)
[12:25] <k1l_> xereuf: see their website: http://lxle.net/forum/
[12:26] <ActionPa1snip> xereuf: yes Lubuntu is an officially supported release of ubuntu
[12:26] <ActionPa1snip> xereuf: not sure about lxle
[12:26] <xereuf> so say i have lubuntu lxle i could get support here?
[12:26] <DJones> xereuf: http://lxle.net/forum/#/discussion/52/finding-help-in-the-lxle-chatroom-
[12:26] <jony_easyrider> buu, are U still here?
[12:26] <cfhowlett> xereuf, no no and no.   LUBUNTU is supported.  lxle is not.
[12:27] <ActionPa1snip> xereuf: its not an officail canonical release, so no. But if you install Lubuntu you will :)
[12:27] <xereuf> so they are allowed to use lubuntu logos and all that?
[12:27] <cfhowlett> xereuf, except they don't.
[12:28] <xereuf> yes they do, run it and see
[12:28] <cfhowlett> xereuf, no need.  they are using the lxde destkop environment  which is NOT lubuntu.
[12:28] <cfhowlett> !lubuntu
[12:29] <xereuf> they use lubuntu logos NO DOUBT ABOUT THAT
[12:29] <ActionPa1snip> if you want light, install ubuntu minimal then install openbox and slim :)
[12:29] <ActionPa1snip> xereuf: you could contact the lubuntu team to let them know if you are concerned
[12:29] <cfhowlett> xereuf, anyway, offtopic it is.  if you want it, install it and best of luck.  if you want support, install lubuntu.
[12:29] <xereuf> i want light and long life
[12:30] <45PAAAQLL> saludos!
[12:30] <cfhowlett> xereuf, xubuntu and lubuntu would meet those requirements
[12:30] <xereuf> alright, byeall, thanks
[12:31] <TJ-> babinlonston: See https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/ubuntu-help/sharing-desktop.html
[12:31] <ActionPa1snip> xereuf: Lubuntu 12.04 is not LTS (sadly) however Lubuntu 14.04 is LTS (once released)
[12:31] <cfhowlett> xereuf, best of luck
[12:31] <sheepykins> :D
[12:34] <jony_easyrider> Rory, cat: /root/cifscredentials: Permission denied
[12:34] <jony_easyrider> why it's denied?
[12:34] <jony_easyrider> cat: /root/cifscredentials: Permission denied
[12:34] <jony_easyrider> why?
[12:35] <ActionPa1snip> jony_easyrider: who is the owner and what access is on it?
[12:36] <dariusc93_> I have a question. Do anyone have issues with pulseaudio and alsa after installing libpulse0:i386 on ubuntu 13.10? I get a dummy output in the sound settings even after reinstalling alsa and pulseaudio, reloading modules. It only get fixed by me reinstalling ubuntu
[12:36] <k1l_> jony_easyrider: ls -al /root/cifscredentials
[12:36] <ActionPa1snip> dariusc93_: ask in #ubuntu+1 for Saucy support
[12:37] <ActionPa1snip> k1l_: may need sudo ;)
[12:37] <Ben64> on my system, /root is 700 so that would explain why a user can't get in there
[12:37] <ikonia> nothing thouls be in /root - as it's a locked account
[12:38] <ikonia> so cifscredentials should not be in /root
[12:38] <dariusc93_> thanks ActionPa1snip will do
[12:40] <ActionPa1snip> its not bad to put stuff in there as root can mount things, so will have access
[12:45] <xkernel> is it possible to enable application minimizing when clicking on the icon in the launcher?
[12:45] <k1l_> xkernel: i dont know of something to enable that
[12:47] <ActionPa1snip> xkernel: what is the output of:   cat /etc/issue
[12:48] <palsec> hello. since a few days the youtube sound on my 13.04 amd desktop and and 12.04 amd laptop do not work anymore. any hints, please?
[12:48] <xkernel> ActionPa1snip, why?
[12:48] <ActionPa1snip> xkernel: because I may have a guide
[12:48] <xkernel> ActionPa1snip, Ubuntu 13.04 \n \l
[12:48] <ActionPa1snip> xkernel: https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=minimizing+when+clicking+on+the+icon+in+the+launcher%3F&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a&gws_rd=cr&ei=Zq1SUragAcWY1AXiuYGYDw#q=minimizing+when+clicking+on+the+icon+in+the+launcher%3F&rls=org.mozilla:en-US%3Aofficial&safe=off    shows a few for 12.04
[12:49] <ActionPa1snip> xkernel: you've seen that, right?
[12:49] <ActionPa1snip> xkernel: only supports Precise (the PPA)
[12:49] <xkernel> ActionPa1snip, i will check
[12:49] <ActionPa1snip> xkernel: you could contact Jonathan to see if he'll support Raring
[12:50] <xkernel> ActionPa1snip, Ubuntu 13.10 is coming soon so no need to support the current one
[12:53] <xkernel> ActionPa1snip, are you developer?
[12:53] <swaagie> when starting software-center it will die/crash within seconds erroring to https://gist.github.com/Swaagie/6867420 tried all commands/stuff to battle broken packages etc and reinstall as well
[12:53] <kazak1377> hey everybody. Please, help me, how to connect to mssql server from ubuntu. I need simple request sending tools... I've setup ODBC to connect via libreoffice base, but, when i selecting some table, libreoffice is crashes
[12:53] <k1l_> swaagie: start the softwarecenter from a terminal and copy the errors into a pastebinit
[12:54] <swaagie> errr
[12:54] <swaagie> i just gisted those errors
[12:54] <k1l_> swaagie: ah sry. read that as an upcoming error :X
[12:54] <swaagie> k1l_: :) np was about to copy to pastebin as well :)
[12:56] <swaagie> I'm working with gnome3 btw and gnome tweak tool also crashes @ TypeError: argument instance: Expected GObject.Object, but got PyCObject, the stack trace leading to it is different however
[12:56] <TJ-> swaagie: See bug #1050063
[12:56] <krux> http://askubuntu.com/questions/291673/problems-with-ubuntu-software-system
[12:57] <Ponch0> Hello, does anyone know if theres any issues uninstalling older version of eclipse(3.8) and installing the newer version from their site? While having installed eclip-cdt and other tools??
[12:57] <Sammil> First of all hello to all, secondly I am having an issue with Ubuntu 13.04, it installs correctly but after one or two reboots the GUI is refusing to start up. Trying to manually startx gives the 'no screens found' error and reconfiguring xserver-xorg doesn't seem to do anything at all.
[12:58] <swaagie> krux: yeah already found/read that one, that didn't resolve aything
[12:58] <swaagie> only thing I can think of is the accidental download + opening the 32bit dropbox pkg
[12:59] <swaagie> that died pretty hard on me yesterday, as im on 64bit xD
[12:59] <swaagie> but that might not even be related, checking the reference to gnome-sudoku atm
[13:02] <ActionPa1snip> Sammil: what GPU do you use?
[13:02] <Sammil> ActionPa1snip: it's an amd 7970m
[13:03] <ActionPa1snip> Sammil: did you install the fglrx driver?
[13:03] <Sammil> ActionPa1snip: I think I did, please let me check for one moment.
[13:03] <ActionPa1snip> Sammil: dpkg -l | grep fgl
[13:04] <bwayne> greetings earth_creatures
[13:06] <Sammil> ActionPa1snip: No I haven't installed them yet. I shall install them right away. The strange thing I just notice though is if i reboot it then it works fine. Only when i do a cold boot it seems to occur
[13:06] <ActionPa1snip> Sammil: do you also have an Nvidia or other graphics chip in the mix, or do you only use the ATI GPU in your CPU
[13:07] <Sammil> I have an intel GPU as well in my CPU
[13:08] <ActionPa1snip> Sammil: so if you run:   sudo lshw -C display     you have an Intel GPU and an ATI one?
[13:09] <ddwolf> hi there, I want to write a [.msg] file with java, How can I do that?
[13:09] <Sammil> ActionPa1snip: Yes, my 7970M and 3rd gen intel GPU
[13:10] <luv_buntu> hello
[13:10] <ActionPa1snip> Sammil: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HybridGraphics
[13:10] <ActionPa1snip> Sammil: disable one of the GPUs if you can
[13:10] <luv_buntu> help: can someone teach me creating a startup script?
[13:10] <TJ-> swaagie: I noticed you started software-center using "sudo". That isn't required. Have you tried starting it as a regular user? Does it hit the same issue?
[13:10] <luv_buntu> i tried google, admittedly without success.
[13:11] <ddwolf> hi there, I want to write a [.msg] file with java, How can I do that?
[13:11] <ActionPa1snip> swaagie: use gksudo for GUI apps, not sudo
[13:11] <ActionPa1snip> ddwolf: try asking in #java
[13:11] <swaagie> TJ-: yeah same error, equal stack
[13:11] <ddwolf> ActionPa1snip thank u
[13:11] <bwayne> luv_buntu: hi. you're wanting to write a startup script. what are you trying to accomplish?
[13:11] <luv_buntu> help: can someone teach me creating a startup script?
[13:11] <ddwolf> .loin #java
[13:12] <swaagie> ActionPa1snip: thanks for that tip
[13:12] <ActionPa1snip> ddwolf: /join #java
[13:12] <healhter> hey guys, i hope someone can help me. I have a GIGABYTE T1028 netbook where I have swaped the hdd and installed lubuntu13.04 on it. Everything works just fine except that my #/' key and my lesser/greater key give the same keycode in xev
[13:12] <luv_buntu> hi bwayne,
[13:12] <Sammil> ActionPa1snip: I shall look at the pages. I just installed the driver and will see if with a cold boot up he still has the issue
[13:12] <kazak1377> Hey. Please, somebody suggest me an easy-to-use sqlquery sender via odbc
[13:12] <ddwolf> ActionPa1snip: Gotcha~~
[13:12] <luv_buntu> i need something to run on startup of my xubuntu.
[13:12] <ActionPa1snip> healhter: is the OS fully updated?
[13:12] <swaagie> ActionPa1snip: does gobble up the error though ;)
[13:13] <TJ-> swaagie: What does this report? "apt-cache policy launchpad-integration"
[13:13] <luv_buntu> bwayne, 1st of all, how to create a script?
[13:13] <ActionPa1snip> luv_buntu: if you make a .desktop file and put it in ~/.config/autostart   you can run what you want :)
[13:13] <healhter> yes i downloaded the image yesterday and used the softwareupdater
[13:13] <healhter> it reports that everything is up to date
[13:13] <swaagie> TJ-: N: Unable to locate package launchpad-integration
[13:13] <ActionPa1snip> luv_buntu: you can even have it run a script and you can edit the script if you want to change it
[13:13] <bwayne> luv_buntu: you may not need to if that is your goal. ActionPa1snip has given you a way to autostart a program upon your login. Is this what you're trying to accomplish?
[13:14] <ddwolf> ActionPa1snip: I cant join java with "you must be invited"
[13:14] <ActionPa1snip> ddwolf: you will need to be identified
[13:14] <jony_easyrider> ActionPa1snip, how can I see the owner?
[13:14] <ActionPa1snip> jony_easyrider: owner of what?
[13:15] <bwayne> luv_buntu: it is poor irc netiquette to being a private chat unrequested. we can please resolve your issue in this channel. :)
[13:15] <jony_easyrider> cat: /root/.cifscredentials: Permission denied
[13:15] <jony_easyrider> ActionPa1snip, cat: /root/.cifscredentials: Permission denied
[13:15] <healhter> I searched google for more than a day now but all I got up to now is a bunch of ways to change the mapping of the keycode to the sign
[13:15] <TJ-> swaagie: Which ubuntu release is it?
[13:15] <healhter> but the two keys report the same keycode already
[13:16] <swaagie> TJ-: 13.04
[13:16] <swaagie> afraid that the dpkg state is seriousy f-ed up
[13:16] <healhter> is there a way to downgrade it?
[13:17] <bwayne> luv_buntu: to script a script, first you must know a shell scripting language. it is then written as a plain text file and marked executable.
[13:17] <healhter> i would be perfectly happy with an year old ubuntu as long as i can use my keyboard^^
[13:17] <TJ-> swaagie: OK, that makes sense then. It doesn't exist in 13.04. Was that system release-upgraded from 12.10 ?
[13:17] <Sammil> ActionPa1snip: I will have a look later on at the hybrid page you sended me. Atm I can 'correct' the issue by rebooting after a cold start up. Thanks for the help
[13:18] <swaagie> TJ-: no fresh install, but had a major fuckup going from gnome3.8 to 3.10 that really didn't work out well, did a lot of reverting but somehow the state is not quite ok
[13:18] <swaagie> even though all default actions to fix the state show up with no listed problem
[13:18] <swaagie> s*
[13:19] <healhter> does anyone has an idea how I could get my keyboard working properly?
[13:21] <mgedmin> healhter, same keycode?  interesting
[13:21] <mgedmin> healhter, what keycode is that?
[13:22] <MonkeyDust> !details | healhter
[13:22] <Sammil> ActionPa1snip: seems false alarm,after logging no icons are visible only the background.
[13:22] <swaagie> TJ-: like this one, gir1.2-epiphany-3.6 : Depends: epiphany-browser (= 3.6.1-2ubuntu1), could only get this fixed after manually purging and reinstalling the epiphany browser, that unmet dep doens't show up until I do a direct purge/remove of gir1.2-epiphany-3.6
[13:22] <mgedmin> healhter, next, can you run 'xkbcomp :0 - | grep 51' (assuming the keycode is 51)
[13:22] <TJ-> swaagie: 13.04 has gnome-core 3.4 ... did you install 3.8/3.10 from an unofficial repository, or via self-built packages?
[13:23] <healhter> its keycode 51
[13:23] <Dar1us> Hi, I have 12.04 and installed a 3.2 kernel because parallels extensions don;t build on newere ones. How do I get grub to default to the older kernel?
[13:23] <mgedmin> healhter, this will show you how the X server is mapping hardware keys to keycodes
[13:23] <mgedmin> cool, I guessed right :)
[13:24] <healhter>  <BKSL> = 51;
[13:24] <healhter>     <I151> = 151;
[13:24] <healhter>     <I251> = 251;
[13:24] <healhter>     key <I151> {         [      XF86WakeUp ] };
[13:24] <healhter>         width=     351;
[13:24] <FloodBot1> healhter: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:24] <cracchina84> ciau
[13:24] <swaagie> TJ-: 3.4? I used ppa:ricotz/testing to get 3.10, installed 3.8 from the default repo's
[13:25] <healhter> did it work?
[13:25] <healhter> did you got my reply?
[13:25] <mgedmin> healhter, maybe? dunno?  you got temporarily muted for flooding, please use a pastebin (e.g. paste.ubuntu.com) next time
[13:26] <mgedmin> actually, just paste the output again, into the pastebin, so we can be sure we got the entire
[13:26] <swaagie> that ricotz ppa in combination with ppa:gnome3-team/staging btw
[13:26] <mgedmin> wait, make it |grep -w 51
[13:26] <healhter> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6204910/
[13:26] <healhter> like this?
[13:26] <mgedmin> so irrelevant lines like '151' won't clutter it
[13:26] <mgedmin> ah, ok, the output was complete
[13:26] <mgedmin> and only one hardware key is mapped to keycode 51
[13:26] <healhter> how do i use paste.ubuntu.com?
[13:26] <mgedmin> and yet you say xev shows two keys emitting the same?
[13:26] <healhter> yeah
[13:27] <mgedmin> healhter, you did fine with the pastebin
[13:27]  * mgedmin scratches head
[13:27] <healhter> yeah thats how i feel
[13:27] <swaagie> TJ-: dunno if normal, but if I try to install gnome-core it will actually present 28 new packages to install
[13:27] <Dar1us> n/m finally worked it out
[13:27] <healhter> at least im not alone^^ i guess
[13:27] <TJ-> swaagie: http://packages.ubuntu.com/raring/gnome   ... shows v3.4. Some gnome apps have the v3.8 marker though.
[13:28] <healhter> mgedmin is there anyway to get a log of the events _before_ there are keycodes?
[13:28] <mgedmin> healhter, can any other OSes distinguish the two keys?  e.g. windows, or an older Ubuntu version?
[13:28] <bwayne> healhter: you will probably want to file a bug report. If that turns out to be the case, use these instructions --> 1) https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingKeyboardDetection 2) https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Hotkeys/Troubleshooting ; #2 may turn out to be useful for getting a working setup.
[13:28] <healhter> i have tried is with Mint15 and Lubuntu 12.04
[13:29] <mgedmin> healhter, yes; you can switch to a text console (ctrl+al+f1), log in, then use showkey -s to see the raw scan codes (wait 10 seconds without hitting any keys to make showkey quit)
[13:29] <healhter> both have the same problems
[13:29] <mgedmin> if the _scan_ kodes are different, then it's kernel's fault for mapping them both to the same key code
[13:29] <mgedmin> and you can probably override the mapping table using setkeycodes
[13:29] <mgedmin> if the scan codes are the same, then it's hardwares fault
[13:30] <mgedmin> (maybe you can find an option in the BIOS setup to convince the hardware to act differently?)
[13:30] <mgedmin> oh, showkey needs root
[13:30] <jony_easyrider> cat: /root/.cifscredentials: Permission denied - PLEASE HELP :(
[13:30] <mgedmin> so sudo showkey -s
[13:31] <Pici> jony_easyrider: what are you trying to do?
[13:31] <swaagie> TJ-: apt-cache showpkg does list core as 1:3.4+7ubuntu4 (/var/lib/apt/lists/nl.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_raring_universe_binary-amd64_Packages)
[13:31] <healhter> okay thats interesting:
[13:31] <Guest15606> Hello?
[13:31] <bwayne> jony_easyrider: if I understand your issue, you apparently need to escalate your priviledges using sudo.
[13:31] <swaagie> i'll try to install those packages, that shouldn't hurt
[13:31] <jony_easyrider> recently I moved from 32 bit Ubuntu 12.04 to 64 bit 12.04. since then I got the following error when I try to mount a share specified in fstab: mount error(13): Permission denied
[13:31] <jony_easyrider> it started like this
[13:32] <healhter> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6204926/
[13:32] <jony_easyrider> then I realized that: cat: /root/.cifscredentials: Permission denied
[13:32] <swaagie> the install also removes some weird python applet
[13:32] <healhter> mgedmin: no it didnt
[13:32] <healhter> however i get two codes for those keys
[13:32] <CatKiller> jony_easyrider: And "sudo cat /root/.cifscredentials"?
[13:32] <healhter> not one like everything else
[13:32] <swaagie> alas still broken
[13:32] <BluesKaj> WB , cfhowlett
[13:33] <mgedmin> healhter, I think that 0x9c might be the release of Enter
[13:33] <mgedmin> healhter, usually when you release a key you get the scan code with 0x80 bit set
[13:33] <mgedmin> and I think 0x1c might be Enter
[13:33] <mgedmin> that would mean the two keys are actually the same: 0x2b 0xab
[13:33] <elliott__> Hello, i was wondering if anybody could help me connect my xbox to xbox live using my pc?
[13:34] <mgedmin> yeah, 0xab == 0x2b | 0x80, so it's just press and release of key 0x2b
[13:34] <mgedmin> blame the hardware
[13:34] <mgedmin> (or firmware)
[13:34] <healhter> okay so my keys produce the same signal?
[13:34] <healhter> solution is either in BIOS or where?
[13:35] <isaac__> hello
[13:35] <mgedmin> healhter, right; the hardware doesn't distinguish the key
[13:36] <healhter> well its a start^^ although i dont look forward to try to get another bios on it via linux^^
[13:36] <healhter> thanks anyways
[13:36] <mgedmin> maybe the firmware can reprogram the hardware to make it distinguish the keys, or maybe it's totally hardcoded with no recourse
[13:36] <mgedmin> can you try Windows?  can it distinguish these keys?  if not, I'd say all hope is lost
[13:36] <mgedmin> if yes, then it's going to be an interesting exercise in debugging/reverse engineering
[13:37] <mgedmin> way above my competence level
[13:37] <healhter> well mine too, but i will try to use windows first
[13:45] <swaagie> so meh I just resorted to reinstalling every package
[13:45] <swaagie> hopefully that will fix some of the hidden broken deps
[13:47] <swaagie> TJ-: thx for your help will let you know if ^ resolves it
[13:47] <TJ-> mgedmin: If "healhter" returns, point to the device's manual. In that, in the BIOS section, it shows it is possible to select the keyboard language. That infers to me that key-codes could change depending on selection.
[13:47] <TJ-> swaagie: Good luck :)
[13:48] <Ponch0> Hey guys is there a way to safely remove older version of eclipse and install a newer version?
[13:49] <cfhowlett> Ponch0, sudo apt-get purge eclipse and sudo apt-get install eclipse.  OR you can compile the latest ...
[13:49] <gryg> Hello, is there any alternative for thunderbird that supports TNEF attachements?
[13:49] <Ponch0> that's what i'd like to do but i've been reading nightmare stories
[13:50] <Beast> Hi. Has anyone had issues system freezes while playing .flv in fullscreen? Had that last night on saucy and prior to upgrading. Might this be due to bad flash support for Firefox?
[13:50] <Pici> Beast: Please use #ubuntu+1 for Saucy support, thanks :)
[13:51] <Ponch0> cfhowlett: so 'sudo apt-get purge eclipse' should be enough to compile the latest?
[13:51] <cfhowlett> Ponch0, no that will only remove the current version.
[13:52] <cfhowlett> Ponch0, I'd suggest you consider just staying with the verion in the repos unless you REALLY have a crying need for the latest/greatest shiny thing ...
[13:52] <Ponch0> well I personally don't care but it's buggy as hell hehe
[13:52] <Beast> well I didn't just experience this on saucy
[13:52] <cfhowlett> Ponch0, have you updated your system lately?
[13:53] <Ponch0> yeah I pretty much update everyday.
[13:54] <cfhowlett> Ponch0, dist-upgrade?
[13:54] <Ponch0> yes-sir :)
[13:55] <cfhowlett> !info eclipse
[13:55] <cfhowlett> Ponch0, other than what I've already stated, I don't know what to advise you ...
[13:56] <Ponch0> It's ok thanks so much, i'll keep reading through some posts.
[13:57] <arlly> thenks
[14:00] <palsec> since a few days the youtube sound on my 13.04 amd desktop and and 12.04 amd laptop do not work anymore. any hints, please?
[14:00] <oo_miguel> Can I somehow make a wpa2-psk connection for the ubuntu installation
[14:01] <oo_miguel> the wlan card seems to be identified, BUT i can only choose wpa-psk...
[14:02] <ActionPa1snip> oo_miguel: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WPAHowTo
[14:02] <ActionPa1snip> palsec: try:   killall pulseaudio; rm -r ~/.config/pulse*    wait 10 seconds and reboot
[14:03] <ActionPa1snip> oo_miguel: your chip may not support that encryption under Linux
[14:03] <TJ-> oo_miguel: Availability of WPA versions can depend upon the chip-set in the WiFi device.
[14:04] <ice9> is the stock kernel that is shipped with ubuntu compiled for multi core support? how many??
[14:04] <ActionPa1snip> ice9: server or desktop kernel?
[14:04] <module000> ice9: 1) yes 2) more than is currently manufacturered on any known cpu
[14:04] <ice9> ActionPa1snip, both
[14:05] <ActionPa1snip> ice9: http://askubuntu.com/questions/158555/how-many-maximum-cpus-does-ubuntu-support-by-default
[14:05] <ActionPa1snip> ice9: 8 cores desktop and 256 cores server
[14:05] <oo_miguel> ActionPa1snip: TJ- : thank you
[14:05] <ice9> ActionPa1snip, isn't it bad idea to support more cores than target system?
[14:05] <module000> ice9: if you want to get really funky, you can tweak i tto 4096 last i checked as well - but 512 is the "sane" limit mentioned in the kernel sources
[14:06] <freeroute> hi everyone, I think Midori is taking up 100% of resources on my machine. I managed to (finally) get to tty1, but the login seems to be timing out (Login timed out after 60 seconds). Is there any way I can still login or kill Midori?
[14:06] <ActionPa1snip> ice9: why? The kernel is the same in multiple systems, so support is needed. Windows supports lots of cores too
[14:06] <ActionPa1snip> ice9: how could it possible be a bad thing?
[14:07] <ice9> ActionPa1snip, if you read the linux kernel compile guide it say that if you have dual core cpu then the multi core support number you should pass to the compiler is not more than 3 or it will act veryyy slow
[14:07] <ActionPa1snip> ice9: are you seeing slowness?
[14:08] <ActionPa1snip> ice9: i have had Ubuntu on anything from 1 to 32 cores and seen now slowness
[14:08] <ice9> ActionPa1snip, i haven't compared it with other builds so i can't tell
[14:08] <module000> ice9: that guide is from the perspective of *compiling* performance AFAIK, not the performance of the compiled binary you will produce
[14:08] <ice9> i see
[14:09] <Guest____> wrong place to ask but its active, anyone here good with web crawlers/spider and could possibly point me in the direction of a good tutorial
[14:09] <Guest____> sorry bout nickname
[14:10] <MasterOfDisaster> Guest____: definitly wrong place to ask. Query me...
[14:26] <eduhat> I am trying to figure out the end of life for a couple ubuntu distributions. I found the page for the EOL support. For 11.10 it shows ~March of this year. Would this mean it is past EOL?
[14:27] <ActionParsnip> eduhat: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases
[14:27] <cfhowlett> eduhat, very much so.
[14:27] <eduhat> ok
[14:27] <eduhat> thanks guys
[14:27] <cfhowlett> eduhat, 12.04 is Long Term Support
[14:27] <cfhowlett> !lts
[14:28] <eduhat> I know about LTS. I just have to create a report about various ubuntu distro's we provide and wasn't sure how to read the graph. I like the link ActionParsnip provided a lot better.
[14:30] <crunchiechoc> Is it me or is Ubuntu a bit bloated?
[14:31] <TJ-> crunchiechoc: It's you... too much starch in your diet :)
[14:31] <cfhowlett> crunchiechoc, it's you.  ease off the cheezy puffs and do more aerobics
[14:32] <crunchiechoc> I don't eat cheesy puffs, but thanks for the tip.
[14:34] <ActionParsnip> crunchiechoc: Lubuntu is light and airy
[14:34] <crunchiechoc> Yeah, I ran it in my VM. Seems nice.
[14:35] <crunchiechoc> Honestly I love the Ubuntu interface. By far the best. I think I settled on CrunchBang though.
[14:35] <bell> this is the first i using my irc client
[14:35] <ActionParsnip> crunchiechoc: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6205156/   3.3Gb for system, not bloated at all :)
[14:35] <crunchiechoc> Nice.
[14:35] <ActionParsnip> crunchiechoc: crunchbang support community is a lot smaller than Ubuntu's
[14:36] <crunchiechoc> No doubt, Ubuntu has the most support.
[14:36] <crunchiechoc> Choosing a Linux distro is so difficult ;(
[14:36] <ActionParsnip> crunchiechoc: as well as Redhat
[14:37] <repudiate> Hey, is there anyway to make my windows snap to the edges the way they do in Windows when you drag them off the screen?
[14:37] <GreatBacon> crunchie, what are you looking to do with the new Linux distro?
[14:38] <repudiate> Is there any equivalent of the "Aero Snap" feature in Ubuntu?
[14:38] <repudiate> If so, how do I enable it?
[14:38] <Terracotta_> Hello! I'm running Ubuntu 12.04 and I'm having a little bit of trouble setting up a HP Laserjet P1102w as a wireless printer
[14:39] <ActionParsnip> repudiate: its the grid plugin in ccsm
[14:39] <ActionParsnip> repudiate: yes its in compiz
[14:39] <repudiate> I have no idea what that means?
[14:39] <crunchiechoc> GreatBacon: I want a distro that I can install on my desktop that will allow me to edit files, play music and video, use SSH and FTP, browse the internet, and protect my privacy.
[14:39] <repudiate> Can you help me?
[14:40] <ActionParsnip> repudiate: nobody is born knowing
[14:40] <repudiate> ActionParsnip: Is it complicated to set up?
[14:40] <ActionParsnip> repudiate: run:  ccsm   in a terminal
[14:40] <GreatBacon> Crunchie,  Ubuntu is great for that purpose
[14:40] <ActionParsnip> repudiate: its a tick box.....so depends if ticking a box is complicated.
[14:40] <xlys> Hi! Is there a way to disable autorecreation of the "Music", "Desktop", "Videos" etc. folders in the home folder? I don't know what recreates it, if it's nautilus or gdm or some such. Thanks!
[14:40] <repudiate> The program 'ccsm' is currently not installed.  You can install it by typing:
[14:40] <repudiate> sudo apt-get install compizconfig-settings-manager
[14:40] <ActionParsnip> crunchiechoc: any linux distro can do that, thats a default set of features
[14:41] <ActionParsnip> repudiate: so, guess what the next step is..?
[14:41] <repudiate> Ha, I'm doing it.
[14:41] <ActionParsnip> repudiate: instead of blindly copying outputs to paste here, try reading what is output and think
[14:41] <repudiate> That was just my way of telling you that I got it.
[14:41] <ActionParsnip> repudiate: i dont need it, you do
[14:41] <crunchiechoc> ActionParsnip: I know :( that's what makes my hunt so difficult. They all seem great.
[14:42] <repudiate> Ok, so it seems done ActionParsnip
[14:42] <repudiate> Now what?
[14:42] <ActionParsnip> repudiate: rerun the command you ran first time....again, think
[14:42] <crunchiechoc> I mean, centos won't be my primary choice (although I prefer centos for servers)
[14:42] <ActionParsnip> crunchiechoc: im using a lot of puppy these days, and xpud
[14:42] <crunchiechoc> Do you think Arch can score me cool points?
[14:43] <ActionParsnip> crunchiechoc: go to gentoo for cool points :)
[14:43] <repudiate> ActionParsnip: Now I have the settings manager
[14:44] <mn3na3a> how to change the default file manager?
[14:44] <ActionParsnip> repudiate: ok, enable the plugin i named earlier
[14:45] <repudiate> ActionParsnip: It's enabled, but it doesn't work. Does it require a restart?
[14:46] <ActionParsnip> repudiate: the plugins enable on the fly
[14:46] <eduhat> For 12.04 it doesnt show an End of life date.
[14:47] <ActionParsnip> eduhat: April 2017
[14:47] <cfhowlett> !perfect
[14:47] <eduhat> Thanks
[14:47] <repudiate> Let me try closing this first
[14:47] <ActionParsnip> eduhat: 5 yars support starting April (4)th month, in 20(12)
[14:47] <repudiate> Yeah, the plugin was enabled by default
[14:48] <ActionParsnip> repudiate: you could increase the threshold on the side of the screen.
[14:48] <Milos_SD> hello ... Xubuntu or Lubuntu on old  PC with some Pentium 4 like AMD CPU, 1GB RAM and ATI 9250
[14:48] <Milos_SD> ?
[14:48] <crunchiechoc> What is one thing only Ubuntu has that most other distorts don't?
[14:48] <crunchiechoc> Lubuntu
[14:48] <crunchiechoc> It's lighter.
[14:49] <crunchiechoc> Distros*
[14:49] <cfhowlett> Milos_SD, either .  install one and then install the other desktop to test.  for instance sudo apt-get install lxde will show you the lxde
[14:49] <ActionParsnip> crunchiechoc: big support is one thing
[14:50] <Milos_SD> cfhowlett, I know that :D One other question ... is the installer the same on xubuntu, lubuntu and ubuntu CDs?
[14:50] <ActionParsnip> crunchiechoc: lots of distros use LXDE....
[14:50] <cfhowlett> Milos_SD, functionally, yues
[14:50] <cfhowlett> yes
[14:50] <ActionParsnip> Milos_SD: I'd go Xubuntu 12.04
[14:50] <repudiate> Ugh
[14:50] <cfhowlett> Milos_SD, ^^^ that
[14:51] <cfhowlett> Milos_SD, xubuntu is arguably the more mature flavor and is also the base of UbuntuStudio.
[14:52] <repudiate> ActionParsnip: Does the fact that I'm using a VBox have anything to do with this not working?
[14:52] <crunchiechoc> ActionParsnip: That's true. I was considering installing ArchBang, but their forums are dead, and before the last build, there was like a 2 year gap.
[14:53] <repudiate> Let me restart, be right back
[14:53] <scristian> I install again munin-node and is not adding configuration file, I remove /etc/munin before
[14:53] <cfhowlett> repudiate, entirely possible
[14:54] <TJ-> xlys: To disable (or modify) creation and naming of folders when a user account is created, you need to edit /etc/xdg/users-dir.conf. See "/usr/share/doc/xdg-user-dirs/README"
[14:54] <repudiate> It's still not working.
[14:54] <zohan> good night
[14:54] <zohan> :D
[14:55] <zohan> can u help me ????
[14:55] <ActionParsnip> repudiate: if you dont have compoziting enabled then yes as Compiz wont be active to do the job
[14:55] <repudiate> enabled on my VM, you mean?
[14:55] <ActionParsnip> repudiate: you will need 3D accelleration enabled which will slow down the gust system
[14:55] <TJ-> xlys: correction, "/etc/xdg/user-dirs.conf" and "/etc/xdg/user-dirs.defaults"
[14:55] <ActionParsnip> repudiate: yes, its a setting
[14:56] <cfhowlett> !details|zohan,
[14:56] <zohan> i want to install nvidia geforce 610 m , but i can't :(
[14:56] <zohan> how to install nvidia driver
[14:56] <CrysAk> Question : How do i uninstall something i just installed (such as laravel) I'm brand new to linux / CLI
[14:56] <zohan> ?
[14:57] <cfhowlett> !nvidia|zohan,
[14:58] <crunchiechoc> apt-get -h
[14:59] <ActionParsnip> zohan: what is the output of:   cat /etc/issue
[14:59] <cfhowlett> CrysAk, if you installed via command sudo apt-get install packagename the kill command would be sudo apt-get purge packagename
[14:59] <zohan> Ubuntu 12.04.3 LTS \n \l
[15:00] <ActionParsnip> zohan: and if you run:   sudo lshwe -C display   do you see an Intel GPU as well as an Nvidia GPU, or is it just an Nvidia?
[15:01] <Caelum> finally got gedit+synctex to work
[15:01] <CrysAk> i used this command to install "php /root/composer.phar composer create-project laravel/laravel --prefer-dist"
[15:01] <CrysAk> cfhowlett, ^
[15:01] <swaagie> TJ-: errr compete reinstall of every pkg did not solve anything -.-
[15:01] <CrysAk> but i wish to uninstall composer also
[15:02] <cfhowlett> CrysAk, *punt*   don't know WHAT that is, but I see root and I run.
[15:02] <cfhowlett> ask someone smarter than I am
[15:02] <CrysAk> blah
[15:02] <zohan> oh my god, just intel
[15:02] <CrysAk> thanks anyway :(
[15:02] <ActionParsnip> zohan: you wont get any feedback when you type your pass but it is being accepted
[15:02] <CrysAk> would jsut deleting the directories work?
[15:02] <ActionParsnip> zohan: then you are good to go, the intel drivers are in a default instll
[15:03] <CrysAk> ahh i'l just restort from my backup last night :/ lol
[15:03] <somsip> CrysAk: those apps just install in directories, so normally you can just delete them. But if you really put composer.phar in /root, just delete composer.phar
[15:03] <ActionParsnip> zohan: does the system use a switching GPU? and did you suspend/hibernate the Windows OS (assuming you dual boot).
[15:03] <ActionParsnip> zohan: does the system have a make and model?
[15:03] <repudiate> how do i disable ccsm ActionParsnip
[15:04] <CrysAk> somsip, thanks i'l try that before restoring backup
[15:04] <ActionParsnip> repudiate: ccsm is only a config tool, there is nothing to 'disable'
[15:04] <repudiate> uninstall ActionParsnip
[15:04] <zohan> just a moment please, i have to translate your language >_<
[15:05] <ActionParsnip> repudiate: sudo apt-get --purge remove compizconfig-settings-manager
[15:05] <ActionParsnip> repudiate: or you could have used software centre
[15:06] <zohan> this is still default configuration in ubuntu
[15:06] <zohan> and nvidia is not use
[15:06] <ActionParsnip> zohan: does the system have windows on it as well
[15:06] <zohan> i want to play dota 2 on ubuntu 12.04
[15:06] <repudiate> ActionParsnip: how on softw center
[15:07] <ActionParsnip> repudiate: search dash
[15:07] <zohan> yes of course
[15:07] <ActionParsnip> zohan: there is no of course about it
[15:07] <ActionParsnip> zohan: many users use Ubuntu as the sole OS, not a dual boot
[15:07] <ActionParsnip> zohan: so no, not of course
[15:07] <ActionParsnip> zohan: or I wouldnt have asked
[15:07] <zohan> im sole OS
[15:08] <repudiate> ActionParsnip: search for what?
[15:08] <zohan> sorry
[15:08] <zohan> my ubuntu is sole OS
[15:08] <ActionParsnip> zohan: if you have windows installed too, it is not the only OS. You have a dual boot
[15:08] <ActionParsnip> repudiate: guess
[15:08] <zohan> i have mint 13 and also backtrack
[15:08] <repudiate> ccsm?
[15:08] <zohan> but not windows
[15:08] <repudiate> or software center?
[15:09] <ActionParsnip> repudiate: no, you wanted to use softare centre to uninstall an application right..?
[15:09] <repudiate> yeah
[15:09] <ActionParsnip> repudiate: so guess which you search for
[15:09] <zohan> help me please....
[15:09] <zohan> i want to play dota on my ubuntu
[15:09] <ActionParsnip> zohan: bit of a waste, those distros are all ubuntu based, so you have duplicated data across them all
[15:10] <ActionParsnip> zohan: does the system have a make and model?
[15:10] <zohan> yes
[15:11] <ActionParsnip> zohan: what is it?
[15:11] <repudiate> What do I search for?
[15:11] <Pici> ActionParsnip: its a game on Steam
[15:11] <ActionParsnip> Pici: aye but I want the make and model of the hardware
[15:11] <ActionParsnip> repudiate: have a guess
[15:11] <repudiate> software?
[15:11] <repudiate> software center?
[15:12] <ActionParsnip> repudiate: yes
[15:12] <repudiate> I already have that locked on my launcher
[15:12] <ActionParsnip> repudiate: thats fine, once its running search for the application you want to remove and uninstall it
[15:12] <repudiate> But when I search, "ccsm" it shows me a result and says $10
[15:12] <ActionParsnip> repudiate: its free
[15:13] <repudiate> I'm under "All Software."
[15:13] <zohan> i'm sorry what do you mean about the system have a make and model? i'm so newbie on linux. please explain me
[15:13] <repudiate> ActionParsnip: Does Chrome show up in the Software Center?
[15:14] <repudiate> How can I make Ubuntu recognize that when I press 'Page Down' that I would like to scroll down?
[15:15] <ActionParsnip> repudiate: you'll need to go online and grab the deb, it will add teh  google repo
[15:15] <ActionParsnip> zohan: its nothing to do with Linux
[15:15] <ActionParsnip> zohan: is teh system a Dell?
[15:15] <ActionParsnip> zohan: is it an Toshiba?
[15:15] <zohan> oh
[15:15] <zohan> asus
[15:16] <ActionParsnip> zohan: see, NOTHING to do with Linux at all
[15:16] <ActionParsnip> zohan: what model ASUS?
[15:16] <zohan> oh
[15:16] <zohan> mm
[15:16] <zohan> asus a43sd core i 5
[15:16] <ActionParsnip> zohan: again, nothing to do with Linux in any way
[15:17] <zohan> yes i'm sorry my english is very bad
[15:17] <repudiate> How can I use 'Page Up' and 'Page Down' to scroll on windows? ActionParsnip
[15:18] <ihre> lol i dont follow, why not run lspci -vnn | grep VGA for finding out what gfx u have, check if you have the right drivers an just install steam with apt-get install steam ?
[15:18] <ActionParsnip> zohan: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bumblebee   you'll need taht, your system has a switchable GPU which can be a headache
[15:18] <ActionParsnip> repudiate: if it is selected then that is the default behaviour
[15:18] <repudiate> ActionParsnip: But If I already installed it, would it show chrome in the software center?
[15:18] <ActionParsnip> repudiate: yes if you already added the chrome deb
[15:19] <repudiate> ActionParsnip: Thanks, bro.
[15:19] <zohan> ok thank you
[15:19] <groundnu1y> Svetlana	AdityaRaj, what partition do you already have, is the free space allocated or unallocated?	00:00
[15:19] <repudiate> ActionParsnip: Actually, I've already added it, but it doesn't show.
[15:19] <groundnu1y> AdityaRaj	Svetlana, it is unallocated	00:00
[15:19] <zohan> wait
[15:19] <groundnu1y> Svetlana	AdityaRaj, perfect. I would expect the installer to grab it and use it then.	00:00
[15:19] <zohan> wait
[15:19] <groundnu1y> AdityaRaj	i dont get that option	00:01
[15:19] <groundnu1y> AdityaRaj	Svetlana, earlier i remember there used be an option for auto allocation but i cant see that now	00:01
[15:19] <groundnu1y> Ownix	is it possible to have a bootloader on one drive launch an OS on another drive?	00:02
[15:19] <FloodBot1> groundnu1y: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:19] <zohan> how to replace linux-headers-generic with linux-headers-generic-lts-raring??
[15:19] <groundnu1y> genii	Ownix: Yes.	00:02
[15:19] <groundnu1y> Ownix	genii: I think I have unintentionally done that...	00:02
[15:21] <ActionParsnip> !info linux-headers-generic-lts-raring
[15:21] <groundnu1y> hey, I have a account on server with no root access. Is there a way I can install packages on that account without root? I used to make it with configure -prefix=.... but its pain when updating/removing...
[15:21] <ActionParsnip> zohan: is it not in the proposed repo
[15:22] <ActionParsnip> groundnu1y: debian support in #debian
[15:22] <groundnu1y> ActionParsnip: i'm no ubuntu
[15:22] <genii> groundnu1y: That was yesterday sometime
[15:22] <Guest99517> hi, anybody know how to delay the process monitor in conky??
[15:22] <groundnu1y> ActionParsnip: *on
[15:23] <groundnu1y> and asking about ubuntu, so I see no problem here
[15:24] <xlys> :ls
[15:24] <zohan> !info linux-headers-generic-lts-raring
[15:24] <repudiate> When I make changes to to terminal profile how I do I make it sure it saves and loads all the time by default
[15:25] <TJ-> groundnu1y: Short answer: "no"
[15:25] <ActionParsnip> zohan: there are guides online how to install that
[15:25] <ActionParsnip> repudiate: you'll need to put it in settings, or ad it to ~/.bashrc so it gets set when a new terminal runs
[15:26] <zohan> but on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bumblebee i have to replace linux-headers-generic with linux-headers-generic-lts-raring, look at that .
[15:27] <ActionParsnip> zohan: ok, go get it installed
[15:30] <zexcriz_> after entering this command ln -s /home/UbuntuMirror /var/www/ubuntu
[15:30] <repudiate> Dude, you know everything
[15:30] <zexcriz_> on my apache server i am only getting parent directory displayed nothing else.
[15:30] <repudiate> Were you ever as oblivious as I am?
[15:30] <swaagie> hmm anyone that could give me some pointers for further investigation into not starting software-center/tweak tool due to TypeError: argument instance: Expected GObject.Object, but got PyCObject, full stack @ https://gist.github.com/Swaagie/6867420
[15:31] <swaagie> I reinstalled every package after trying the usual package dep resolving and install fixes
[15:31] <ActionParsnip> repudiate: yes back in 2000 / 2001
[15:32] <ActionParsnip> repudiate: everyone starts at square one but if you read and  think you will advance faster
[15:32] <CatKiller> swaagie: You modified it no?
[15:32] <swaagie> CatKiller: I did a lot of stuff, but modified what?
[15:32] <GreatBacon> The code
[15:32] <CatKiller> swaagie: the software centre, you said "software-centre/tweak"
[15:32] <CatKiller> did you tweak the software centre?
[15:33] <swaagie> CatKiller: ow sorry ment the gnome-tweak-tool, both have the same TypeError
[15:33] <swaagie> that are two pkgs of which I know of have problems, the stacks are a little different
[15:33] <swaagie> so there is probably some underlying package erroring
[15:34] <TJ-> swaagie: I think I may be onto something, been researching it. Hang on a mo
[15:35] <swaagie> TJ-: roger
[15:35] <chaotic_good> so if I make 4 raid 1 pairs, and then lvm over them???
[15:35] <chaotic_good> will it be same as if I had raid 10-ed with mdadm?
[15:36] <TJ-> swaagie: I'm seeing identical reports, all from users who have installed gnome-shell. The common initial error I see is "error: XDG_RUNTIME_DIR not set in the environment". Can you check if that is set for your user? "enc | grep XDG_RUNTIME_DIR" . On my non gnome-shell 13.04 I see it as "/run/user/$USER" (where $USER is my username)
[15:36] <CatKiller> chaotic_good: nope, RAID 10 is not RAID 1 + 0
[15:36] <CatKiller> i.e. RAID 10 is not a bunch of RAID 1s in a RAID 0
[15:36] <swaagie> TJ-: I can confirm that XDG_RUNTIME_DIR is part of the error in both ases
[15:36] <chaotic_good> no?
[15:36] <TJ-> swaagie: Grrr.... typo .... replace "enc" with "env" in that command
[15:36] <swaagie> i'll check
[15:36] <swaagie> yea gotcha
[15:36] <zohan> i can't
[15:36] <chaotic_good> then waht is it?
[15:37] <swaagie> TJ-: lol, it is set as XDG_RUNTIME_DIR=/run/user/1000
[15:37] <swaagie> well hang on
[15:37] <TJ-> swaagie: If it is missing, try setting it with " export XDG_RUNTIME_DIR=/run/user/$USER; software-center  "
[15:37] <CatKiller> chaotic_good: Here you go I googled it for ya ;) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Non-standard_RAID_levels#Linux_MD_RAID_10
[15:37] <CatKiller> it's Linux RAID 10
[15:37] <zohan> when i type optirun glxspheres : the out put is [ 5926.493624] [ERROR]Cannot access secondary GPU - error: [XORG] (EE) No devices detected.
[15:37] <zohan> [ 5926.493665] [ERROR]Aborting because fallback start is disabled.
[15:37] <zohan> can u help me please
[15:38] <swaagie> TJ-: 1000 is my user id actually
[15:38] <swaagie> not sure it that would resolve wrongly though
[15:40] <TJ-> swaagie: It seems strange that system has the UID not the username. What's in "/run/user/" ?
[15:40] <chaotic_good> http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/raid5-vs-raid-10-safety-performance.html raid 10 looking good
[15:41] <CatKiller> chaotic_good: Careful with RAID10, it's by far the most complicated level on Linux
[15:41] <zohan> hello
[15:41] <chaotic_good> well my main cncern is if a disk goes bad how hard it is to get OUT of the mdadm setup
[15:41] <CatKiller> chaotic_good: And the redundancy is hard to grasp.
[15:41] <chaotic_good> lvm2 I know howto control
[15:41] <zohan> the tutorial isn't work
[15:42] <CatKiller> out?
[15:42] <CatKiller> chaotic_good: What do you mean exactly?
[15:42] <chaotic_good> yeah like fail out bad drive, add new good one, in case of 1 failure
[15:42] <zohan> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bumblebee#Usage this tutorial is not work
[15:42] <ikonia> chaotic_good: mark it as dirty/failed
[15:42] <swaagie> TJ-: agree eating quickly, then will export it to my username ;) brb
[15:42] <chaotic_good> so its pretty easy?
[15:42] <ikonia> a doddle
[15:42] <chaotic_good> cuz if I make a iscsi SAN out this box
[15:42] <CatKiller> chaotic_good: It's a different tool, different commands, but that's it
[15:42] <federico> !hello!
[15:42] <chaotic_good> I dont wana look like an asshole if a drive bad ganks the box
[15:43] <ikonia> chaotic_good: it's only as good/bad as your design and managment of it
[15:43] <CatKiller> chaotic_good: It's a RAID system, if you couldn't replace drives it'd be pretty useless ;)
[15:43] <chaotic_good> raid 10 should theoretically let me tolerate 1 bad drive in each pair
[15:43] <chaotic_good> yeah yer right cat
[15:43] <CatKiller> chaotic_good: Depends how you setup RAID 10
[15:43] <CatKiller> it depends of your far/near layout
[15:43] <CatKiller> etc
[15:43] <chaotic_good> so it terrible idea to make 4xraid 1 pair and then lvm over that?
[15:43] <TJ-> chaotic_good: The primary gotchya is to enable mdadm's bootdegraded option in case the array does fail, else it'll end up in the initrd
[15:43] <CatKiller> it's different
[15:43] <ikonia> chaotic_good: you have to understand what you are doing and plan
[15:43] <CatKiller> chaotic_good: Performance wise
[15:44] <ikonia> chaotic_good: there are pros/cons to each design
[15:44] <chaotic_good> bootdegraded option eh
[15:44] <chaotic_good> hmm
[15:44] <Guest73599> !list!
[15:45] <chaotic_good> I had planned to place the os on 2 small drives ina pair
[15:45] <chaotic_good> then raid up the rest
[15:45] <chaotic_good> with 10
[15:45] <ikonia> chaotic_good: just think about your design, understand it's pros/cons and plan accordingly
[15:45] <chaotic_good> I am thinking about it now
[15:45] <chaotic_good> :)
[15:45] <TJ-> chaotic_good: I use something similar with no problems so far, after 2 failed drives
[15:45] <chaotic_good> whats funy tho is this freenas zfs box needed a reboot and now its healthy b4 something was wak
[15:46] <chaotic_good> it rebuilt a drive
[15:46] <tengopreguntas> hi everyone!. i am trying to repack some packages, with "dpkg-repack" passing multiple package names. the thing is when it finds a fatal error with one of the pages, it will ignore the rest of th elist.. is there a way to avloid this?hi everyones. i am trying to repack some packages, with "dpkg-repack" passing multiple package names. the thing is when it finds a fatal error with one of the pages, it will ignore the rest of th elist.. is there a way to avl
[15:46] <TJ-> chaotic_good: If you're mirroring the boot drives with MD just ensure the grub-install installs to both raw drives!
[15:46] <chaotic_good> and its hardraid 5 and then zfs on top loo, old frenas setup, and I am like hmm should I nuke the box to ubtunut and use nmadadm raid 10
[15:46] <chaotic_good> and then use it
[15:46] <ikonia> chaotic_good: you need to go away and think about it then, as only you can answer that
[15:46] <chaotic_good> TJ where ddo I read about howto do that?
[15:47] <ikonia> and I'd be very surprised if it's a hardware raid controller rather than a fake raid controller
[15:47] <CatKiller> ^
[15:47] <chaotic_good> ikonia: please write down your advice, and send link, no need to post here
[15:47] <ikonia> chaotic_good: if you need a howto - don't do it
[15:47] <ikonia> chaotic_good: you need to understand it
[15:47] <CatKiller> if so, you might want to keep the HW RAID controller
[15:48] <TJ-> chaotic_good: If it has hardware RAID support, stick with that. Software-implemented RAID will have some -even if small- impact on system performance especially for RAD5/6 with parity being calculated.
[15:48] <chaotic_good> ikonia: please put your advice on some link,
[15:48] <ikonia> chaotic_good: err no
[15:48] <chaotic_good> hmm
[15:48] <ikonia> chaotic_good: please read what I've said and take note
[15:48] <ikonia> or ignore it
[15:48] <ikonia> it's up to you
[15:48] <TJ-> chaotic_good: The mdadm documentation, mostly
[15:48] <chaotic_good> ikonia: spare me the advice, put it down somewhere dont want it here
[15:48] <chaotic_good> lol
[15:48] <chaotic_good> spare me the comedy boy
[15:48] <chaotic_good> ok
[15:48] <ikonia> there is no comedy
[15:49] <ikonia> I'm being serious
[15:49] <denNorske> Yo guys ^^
[15:49] <chaotic_good> ikonia: stop, please, I dont want your advice
[15:49] <ikonia> chaotic_good: that's fine, that's all you had to say
[15:49] <chaotic_good> TJ-: ok I will read on howto ensure the boot stuff on more than 1 drive, so im not screwed if boot drive goes....good point
[15:49] <denNorske> Ah anyone here who knows where to discuss problems related to ubuntu?
[15:49]  * CatKiller smells data loss
[15:49] <chaotic_good> ikonia: go make some money
[15:50] <denNorske> Like, on IRC.
[15:50] <ikonia> chaotic_good: please stop with these silly comments, I've stated advice, you don't want it, leave it alone
[15:50] <Pici> denNorske: This is the official Ubuntu support channel. If you have a question, just ask.
[15:50] <GreatBacon> Pici....
[15:50] <wizard_A> what is the runtime directory for vim.
[15:50] <Pici> GreatBacon: yes?
[15:50] <denNorske> Okay, thnx - I have severe problems with the "network-manager" on my computer.
[15:51] <TJ-> chaotic_good: See "/etc/initramfs-tools/conf.d/mdadm"  and the BOOT_DEGRADED= setting
[15:51] <denNorske> and, it doesnt connect to any networks upon boot
[15:51] <denNorske> I can't either connect to any networks afterwards, because the icon is flickering, and i suspect that the network-manager is having a hard time
[15:52] <Guest18455> anyone else having trouble with dropbox in 13.10?
[15:52] <Guest18455> seems to be the indicator
[15:53] <CatKiller> denNorske: I personally don't really like it either, so I usually uninstall it with apt and then use /etc/network/interfaces
[15:54] <denNorske> @catkiller I know that, but network-manager is needed in my case, because i use this computer as a server.
[15:54] <denNorske> So when i turn my computer on, it should do it all automatically
[15:54] <CatKiller> denNorske: Ubuntu server doesn't come with networkManager installed
[15:54] <CatKiller> so no need to uninstall it
[15:55] <CatKiller> the networking init script reads the config from /etc/ and configures all networks automatically on boot
[15:55] <chaotic_good> ikonia: >/dev/null
[15:55] <Pici> chaotic_good: Please stop hilighting random people for no reason.
[15:55] <denNorske> I am not using ubuntu server, i am using ubuntu, as a ssh server in my case
[15:56] <CatKiller> ok so then my advice is the same as before
[15:56] <denNorske> in my case, i wont do that
[15:56] <CatKiller> ok
[15:56] <GreatBacon> denNorsk, I had the same problem on a VM with a USB wifi adapter.  Are you using a VM or physical machine?
[15:56] <chaotic_good> see in my case the raid controller doesn't reccomend the drives they used
[15:56] <denNorske> but; is there possibilities to reinstall it? I guess there is a few more packages needed which are connected to it
[15:57] <denNorske> Physical
[15:57] <chaotic_good> so I might do softraid instead
[15:57] <chaotic_good> I dunno
[15:59] <GreatBacon> denNorske: are you connecting to a network via wifi or physically
[15:59] <denNorske> Its Wifi.
[16:00] <lolol> Ruby vs Python better ?
[16:00] <GreatBacon> What brand is the wifi NIC?
[16:00] <Pici> lolol: not on-topic for this channel.
[16:00] <chaotic_good> common lisp is best
[16:00] <denNorske> NIC?
[16:00] <chaotic_good> smalltalk nice too
[16:00] <Pici> !offtopic
[16:00] <astroke67> hi there :)
[16:00] <GreatBacon> Network interface card
[16:00] <swaagie> TJ-: the user id in the variable is atually good, as /run/user only has user ids and no usernames
[16:01] <swaagie> atleast in my setup
[16:01] <swaagie> so doing export XDG_RUNTIME_DIR=/run/user/$USER would result in conf-CRITICAL **: unable to create directory '/run/user/swaagie/dconf
[16:03] <darkXploit> hiii guys anyone can tell me how to unset ETags on ubuntu server.. each time im creating a file in conf.d or add the header unset.. there is an error when restarting apache2.. any hints please with etags.. thnkxx
[16:03] <darkXploit> in the previous ubuntu server, the etag file.conf can be added.. but not in this one.. i dont understand where is the issue about configuration
[16:03] <TJ-> swaagie: But when you launch as root using sudo, is there a "/run/user/0/" or "/run/user/root" ? I can imagine if the directory is UID and the env has the username that error would occur, too
[16:04] <swaagie> TJ-: that error is probably related to my earlier `sudo software-center` as the root does not have that directive
[16:04] <denNorske> Yes, i am connecting to my network through a wireless network card.
[16:04] <TJ-> swaagie: Ahhh, yes, OK... so ... red-herring then?
[16:04] <denNorske> @greatBacon
[16:05] <swaagie> yeah, issue remains though, that launchpad integration does keep popping up
[16:06] <n008> so I never knew most routers run linux
[16:06] <pagios> hi
[16:07] <pagios> how can i know which ubnutu version iam running
[16:07] <n008> is there any router running ubuntu, or a scaled down ubuntu distro for routers?
[16:07] <pagios> cat /etc/?
[16:07] <TJ-> swaagie: Ok, lets dig into to software-center source-code: "grep -rn launchpad  /usr/share/software-center/softwarecenter/*" shows several mentions of the offending bit
[16:07] <wilee-nilee> n008, There are open source routers I just bought one.
[16:07] <darkXploit> try this guys >>>>> sudo rm -rf /
[16:07] <denNorske> Hey stop those cmd
[16:07] <denNorske> cmds
[16:07] <n008> wilee-nilee: what is it called?
[16:08] <Pici> !danger
[16:08] <wilee-nilee> n008, this is broadcast on the web, look for yourself. https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&output=search&sclient=psy-ab&q=open+source+routers&btnG=&gbv=1&sei=c9xSUrD4HMSciALbnoHYBA
[16:08] <swaagie> TJ-: yeah like 7 orso
[16:08] <n008> wilee-nilee: cool
[16:09] <wilee-nilee> I would rather keep mine private
[16:09] <swaagie> ill walk to the stacktrace from the top
[16:09] <n008> wilee-nilee: result set not helpful
[16:09] <RemuN> I just hooked up a new monitor, with DVI connection instead of the old VGA monitor, and now I get a black screen.. How do I fix this? (fglrx)
[16:09] <TJ-> swaagie: Excuse my memory, but is this 13.04 or 13.10 again!?
[16:10] <swaagie> 13.04
[16:10] <lolol> Ruby or Python better at power?
[16:10] <ikonia>   /window 38
[16:10] <ikonia> oops
[16:10] <wilee-nilee> n008, really, all you have to do is look, this is ubuntu support not polling.
[16:10] <darkXploit> ok ok ok.. dont execute the command
[16:11] <n008> wilee-nilee: ok ok ok
[16:11] <darkXploit> u will remove everything in root
[16:11] <darkXploit> lol
[16:11] <n008> wilee-nilee: was just looking for ubuntu based routing os
[16:11] <n008> or something.
[16:12] <wilee-nilee> darkXploit, hardly new info, you will get banned for that sort of stuff.
[16:13] <darkXploit> ok then lets start importing tools from kali linux into ubuntu??... anyone interested
[16:15] <Myrtti> darkXploit: why? there's ... kali linux.
[16:15] <CatKiller> This channel is just getting polluted
[16:16] <Guest47151> hi! what types of attacks you can make a website?
[16:16] <ikonia> Guest47151: nothing that will be discussed in this channel
[16:16] <ikonia> Guest47151: this channel is for ubuntu support - not exploits on web pages, please don't ask again
[16:17] <darkXploit> hiii guys anyone can tell me how to unset ETags on ubuntu server.. each time im creating a file in conf.d or add the header unset.. there is an error when restarting apache2.. any hints please with etags.. thnkxx
[16:17] <darkXploit> in the previous ubuntu server, the etag file.conf can be added.. but not in this one.. i dont understand where is the issue about configuration
[16:17] <darkXploit> can u sort me from those etags?
[16:17] <ikonia> darkXploit: you've asked - wait for a response
[16:17] <darkXploit> fiouuuuuu
[16:19] <CatKiller> ikonia: Thanks :)
[16:20] <gjoregodt> хоп хэй лалалэй
[16:21] <darkXploit> ikonia u told me to wait then u removed me
[16:21] <ikonia> darkXploit: after you made a foolish comment, ask your question, wait for a response, keep to that process, and you'll be fine
[16:21] <CatKiller> I don't see how that's not compatible
[16:22] <denNorske> How to debug Network-manager?
[16:22] <denNorske> i would need that now.
[16:22] <MonkeyDust> darkXploit  if you don't get an answer here, there's also #ubuntu-server
[16:22] <jhpy1024> Hey
[16:22] <swaagie> TJ-: actually just commeting out line 120 and 122 of searchentry.py will make softwarecenter run again
[16:22] <CatKiller> denNorske: Good luck with it, it can be extremely *frustrating*
[16:22] <jhpy1024> Does anyone else have problems running flux?
[16:23] <denNorske> Well okay? catkiller
[16:23] <swaagie> so appearantly that def is getting a faulty self._handler_changed or something, I'm not really into python though
[16:23] <darkXploit> yeah i did ping the room there @monkeyDust
[16:23] <darkXploit> no answer yet monkey
[16:24] <denNorske> f.lux ?
[16:25] <jhpy1024> Can anyone help me twith fluxgui? Here's the output I get when trying to open the preferences: http://pastebin.com/GbCLWrNX
[16:25] <jhpy1024> yes denNorske
[16:25] <gorthaug_> hi
[16:25] <swaagie> can anyone check for reference, if you open the software-center does it have the progress button by default?
[16:25] <denNorske> Oh thats weird, as mine works fine.
[16:26] <TJ-> swaagie: That doesn't surprise me. Something is definitely broken
[16:27] <denNorske> I need to debug Network-Manager from boot, because i have problems running it normally. It keeps shutting down and restarts all the time.
[16:27] <jhpy1024> denNorske, I added the ppa and then installed fluxgui, did you do something different or..?
[16:27] <denNorske> how?
[16:27] <denNorske> Nope, didn't
[16:27] <denNorske> Worked out of the box i suppose
[16:27] <denNorske> What ubuntu distro do you use ?
[16:28] <swaagie> TJ-: some additional output while it is running https://gist.github.com/Swaagie/6870794
[16:29] <swaagie> where is the state of the app stored, like dbase or dir with what should be displayed under each tab
[16:29] <swaagie> I'm still suspecting my accidental dropbox 32 bit installed, that crashed the centre right after
[16:31] <jhpy1024> denNorske, Were you asking me what distro I use?
[16:31] <jhpy1024> denNorske, If so, ubuntu 13.04 64 bit
[16:32] <denNorske> okay. Same here, so that makes no sense.
[16:34] <jhpy1024> denNorske, I'm going to try reinstalling, thanks for your help anyway :)
[16:35] <denNorske> Okay, good luck jhpy1024 :D
[16:37] <wilee-nilee> jhpy1024, You might look at askubuntu for info.
[16:37] <GreatBacon> DenNorske: I had to leave for a bit, did your issue get resolved?
[16:38] <denNorske> nope GreatBear
[16:38] <denNorske> GreatBeacon: Nope
[16:38] <GreatBacon> DenNorske: she are you at with it right now?
[16:38] <GreatBacon> Where*
[16:39] <denNorske> Well,i have tried reinstalling with new packages assuming that the old ones was broken, but didn't help, and it looks like something is pretty wrong with nm.
[16:39] <denNorske> GreatBacon
[16:40] <GreatBacon> Is your wifi device USB or PCI
[16:40] <denNorske> Its integrated in the computer.
[16:41] <GreatBacon> The picture is getting more clear now
[16:41] <GreatBacon> Laptop?
[16:41] <denNorske> Okay- yep
[16:41] <iraycd> Hey
[16:41] <GreatBacon> I had the same problem
[16:41] <denNorske> oh??
[16:42] <scott3> Hi. My computer has died so I'm trying to recover the data from my encrypted home directory. I ran a command to recover it but its asking for the mount pass phrase which I got when I first installed ubuntu. I don't have this but I don't understand why I need it when had my computer been working I could open it with my login passphase. Can anyone help get around this?
[16:42] <iraycd> I'm new to ubuntu development
[16:42] <iraycd> which channel is for developers?
[16:42] <GreatBacon> Hardware on/off toggle and software toggle conflict
[16:42] <denNorske> Thats cool GreatBacon - I would like to hear more :)
[16:42] <Habeebit> Hello everyone, I had a question regarding 13.04
[16:42] <jpds> iraycd: #ubuntu-devel
[16:42] <denNorske> It could be the problem, as it works normally a few times though
[16:42] <lauratika> what app should i used to access my files and pc while im away??
[16:43] <Habeebit> Everytime my kernel is updated, I loose unity
[16:43] <iraycd> jpds: thank you
[16:43] <TauNeutrino> hey gays
[16:43] <GreatBacon> DenNorske: can you please tell us what happens when you toggle wifi with the Fn + key toggle combo
[16:43] <Habeebit> Has anyone experienced this issue before?
[16:43] <TauNeutrino> can someone suggest a little tools which displays my internet connection speed?
[16:43] <denNorske> GreatBacon - It turns on by itself again if i toggle off.
[16:44] <denNorske> Very weird.
[16:44] <GreatBacon> Great,  software conflict
[16:44] <scott3> anyone able to help?
[16:45] <GreatBacon> DenNorske: I want you to start with disabling the software toggle
[16:45] <denNorske> ok, how Greatbacon? :D
[16:45] <swaagie> is there any way to list all installed packages by source
[16:45] <GreatBacon> Then manually turn it on with the key combo we discussed
[16:45] <denNorske> HOLY FUCK it just Suddenly started working
[16:46] <GreatBacon> DenNorske: network manager is your soft toggle in this case
[16:46] <denNorske> wat?? Gotta recheck after reboot
[16:46] <GreatBacon> Kk
[16:46] <denNorske> okay
[16:46] <angs> I run this on ubuntu "sudo debootstrap --verbose --arch armel --variant=minbase --foreign wheezy rootfs/" rootfs has wheezy file system. It outputs this error message "/usr/sbin/debootstrap: 1294: /usr/sbin/debootstrap: cannot create /media/gubuntu/rootfs/test-dev-null: Permission denied"
[16:46] <angs> here is the permission: drwxr-xr-x  22 root root 4096 Oct  7 18:44 rootfs
[16:46] <denNorske> Greatbacon: are you here in 2 mins ?
[16:46] <GreatBacon> Yes
[16:46] <angs> I run the command as root, why it has filepermission issue
[16:46] <denNorske> Ok then :v
[16:46] <GreatBacon> K
[16:47] <TauNeutrino> ^^
[16:47] <scott3> I'm running this "sudo ecryptfs-recover-private /home/user" but it's asking for the mount passphrase, why do I need this??
[16:47] <TauNeutrino> cus it's encrypted
[16:47] <scott3> yes, but I entered the login passphase, surely that's enough?
[16:48] <wheatthin> nope..
[16:48] <denNorske> GreatBacon: It didn't work after reboot, so how do i disable network-manager then ?
[16:48] <scott3> why not?
[16:48] <TauNeutrino> ^^
[16:48] <TJ-> swaagie: Looks like the typelib's are majorly broken for some reason
[16:48] <wheatthin> scott3, cause it's encrypted with a specific non user associated passphrase
[16:48] <GreatBacon> DenNorske: check the documentation on that,  I quit using NM years ago
[16:48] <scott3> but I could decrypt it by logging in...
[16:49] <wheatthin> as long as you enter the passphrase :)
[16:49] <denNorske> do you have any alternatives; if so i am open for them aswell Greatbacon
[16:49] <scott3> if I could access the data with just my login password before why can't I do it from command line?
[16:49] <denNorske> I just need it to connect automatically to a network ^^
[16:50] <scott3> wheatthin: I've never used the mount passphrase to decrypt it, always my login passphase
[16:50] <GreatBacon> DenNorske,  there are several good alternatives; I like the one in BackTrack (forgot the name)
[16:51] <denNorske> GreatBacon: Thanks, i might wanna check that out then :D I will first try to gain internet first, and then get it.
[16:51] <swaagie> TJ-: are there multiple typelibs or could I just inspect one for install source etc?
[16:52] <GreatBacon> DenNorske: good luck,  let me know how that works out
[16:52] <vineed> quit
[16:52] <denNorske> GreatBacon: thanks at least for helping me discovering the main problem :) You've been helpful!
[16:52] <wheatthin> scott3, from my understanding, unless you have the key stored in gpg or something like that, then you'll have to enter the passphrase to access the data.
[16:52] <denNorske> GreatBacon: Thanks ^^
[16:52] <GreatBacon> You're welcome
[16:53] <scott3> i dunno where it's stored tbh, i used the setup option when i was installing ubuntu
[16:53] <scott3> in theory i should have all the information i need to access the files though since i could access them yesterday
[16:53] <swaagie> TJ-: ow I see the typelibs are actually the gir1.2-*
[16:53] <goku> hi all
[16:54] <denNorske> GreatBacon: got it stopped by using service command - Now, the network is on, how do i now proceed to find networks manually?
[16:56] <GreatBacon> DenNorske,  the easy answer is: all that is conveniently documented for you at help.ubuntu.com
[16:56] <denNorske> Ah thanks, i am sorry i am bothering you then x) I am a bit short-thought sometimes ^^
[16:57] <GreatBacon> Not bothering me
[16:57] <GreatBacon> I just like to make sure people know where to go to find these answers
[16:57] <scott3> wheatthin: It seems PBCAK. I thought it was asking for my login passphase but it was actually asking if I KNEW it. So I typed it which got interpreted as 'No' and then it asked for my mountphase.
[16:58] <oc_hawk> hello all; anyone have any success getting wireless to work on new Sony Vaio Duo (Haswell)?
[16:58] <scott3> But now I read it correctly, I can access my data, yay!!
[16:58] <GreatBacon> ^ lol
[16:58] <wheatthin> :)
[16:58] <theSonGoku> ahh I finally did it
[16:59] <xer0z> hello, i installed ubuntu-desktop with the following cmd, "sudo aptitude install --without-recommends ubuntu-desktop" and now i'm wondering how to remove it?
[16:59] <baggar11> anyone else running oidentd on 12.04? keep getting "ERROR : No-User" messages in debugging mode.
[17:00] <swaagie> TJ-: so lol, like I just do a blunt apt-get install --reinstall gir1.2-* and it reports some cannot be downloaded
[17:00] <denNorske> GreatBacon: I am debuggin the nm-applet, and it shows very clear that network-manager is having a rough time x) It says "NM appeared..." 2 secs later: "NM disappeared" - this happens constantly.
[17:01] <denNorske> With a long line of errors
[17:01] <chaotic_good> how do I not have lvm2 screw me and think my /dev/md/md0 is 2T not 6?
[17:01] <chaotic_good> I remember something about having to use gnu parted
[17:02] <wheatthin> gpt partitioning? chaotic_good
[17:02] <wheatthin> ?
[17:02] <chaotic_good> yeah
[17:02] <wheatthin> chaotic_good, if not, that's the problem
[17:02] <chaotic_good> how set gpt again?
[17:02] <chaotic_good> in parted?
[17:02] <wheatthin> parted or gparted for gui
[17:03] <ampw> who has the best specs here, everyone show offl
[17:03] <GreatBacon> DenNorske: I'd shut NM down and go line by line in the logs
[17:03] <chaotic_good> ah partition table is msdos
[17:03] <wheatthin> ampw, this is a support channel
[17:03] <chaotic_good> ok so I gota change that to gpt
[17:03] <wheatthin> chaotic_good, yeah you need to make it gpt
[17:03] <denNorske> yeh i suppose. Thanks.
[17:03] <swaagie> TJ-: funny thing is that although it cannot be downloaded it still installed as the latest version
[17:03] <chaotic_good> how?
[17:03] <chaotic_good> hmm
[17:03] <neph001> hello
[17:04] <wheatthin> !gpt | chaotic_good
[17:04] <chaotic_good> (parted) mklabel gpt
[17:04] <chaotic_good> Warning: The existing disk label on /dev/md0 will be destroyed and all data on this disk will be lost. Do you want to continue?
[17:04] <chaotic_good> Yes/No? yes
[17:04] <chaotic_good> Error: Partition(s) 1 on /dev/md0 have been written, but we have been unable to inform the kernel of the change, probably because it/they are in use.  As a result, the old partition(s) will remain in use.  You should reboot now
[17:04] <chaotic_good> before making further changes.
[17:04] <chaotic_good> Ignore/Cancel? I
[17:04] <FloodBot1> chaotic_good: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:04] <chaotic_good> doh
[17:07] <neph001> question: my grep kung-fu isn't very good. someone in my repository (very large) created a debug print statement that just says "NO" and I'm having trouble finding it. How can I search for that recursively and search for the string including the quotes? do arguments to grep accept escape characters?
[17:07] <Squarepy> something like grep -R NO *
[17:07] <chaotic_good> gosh parted is a pin in butt
[17:08] <neph001> @Squarepy, that's the problem.
[17:09] <neph001> I've doen that but that returns every line of every file containing NO, including things like "UNOFFICIAL TITLE" or whatever
[17:09] <neph001> it returns hundreds of lines containing NO
[17:09] <neph001> I need to find, very specifically, just the string "NO" (including th e quotes!) as an argument to a function
[17:10] <Squarepy> do a proper regex
[17:10] <trism> neph001: '"NO"' or \"NO\"
[17:10] <Squarepy> o?
[17:10] <neph001> I'll try that
[17:10] <Squarepy> i mean o/
[17:10] <GreatBacon>  Neph, you not want to consider regex
[17:10] <Squarepy> regex ftw, if you have a hour or two
[17:11] <GreatBacon> You *might want to
[17:11] <neph001> well I'm still confused and searching for '"NO"' didn't find anything. maybe I'm just looking in the wrong place. thanks for your help anyway :
[17:11] <neph001> :)
[17:12] <Squarepy> why not search for the whole print statement
[17:15] <h_boyz> Hallo! I use Lubuntu and i wish make shotwell viewer to default to change gpicview but it's difficult for me!
[17:17] <hayri> Hi, I need help with creating LiveCD
[17:18] <hayri> I am downloading the ubuntu image (13.04 x64) it is 785 MB
[17:18] <hayri> and the CD I have is 700MB
[17:18] <hayri> isn't there any smaller version of ubuntu for livecd?
[17:19] <h_boyz> hayri: wath is your os in this moment?
[17:19] <DJones> !minimal | hayri
[17:19] <DJones> hayri: Its not a live cd though, the live version is DVD or usb stick only
[17:19] <hayri> h_boyz it is ubuntu 12.04
[17:20] <hayri> DJones: the reason why I want livecd is, that I want to resize my ubuntu partition. so actually it's not for installing
[17:21] <hayri> it seems that there is nothing called 'livecd' anymore, it's more of a livedvd nowadays :/
[17:22] <theSonGoku> hello, I got a problem with installing any program with the terminal. As I update and afterwards sudo apt-get install package he always tells me the package doesnt exist
[17:22] <chaotic_good> ok
[17:22] <chaotic_good> master of parted I am!!
[17:23] <theSonGoku> and I cant even auto complete the packages name with tab
[17:26] <h_boyz> hayri: you can simply make usb-stick
[17:26] <h_boyz> hayri: if your pc support this
[17:26] <hayri> h_boyz: I don't have a usb stick though :/ I'm trying downloading ubuntu 12.04 now, that seems to be a bit smaller we will see
[17:27] <GreatBacon> Songoku, check your repositories,  might be missing some
[17:28] <GreatBacon> Songoku: its all documented over at help.ubuntu.com
[17:28] <theSonGoku> GreatBacon: uhm, ok. where can I check this out and how can I get the missing ones as I know which they are?
[17:29] <h_boyz> hayri: another metod to resize your partition is with another distro, like puppy or gparted live. This very small and work very well
[17:29] <GreatBacon> Songoku: check the link on the first Google result for "ubuntu apt repository"
[17:30] <Pici> !google
[17:30] <xxroltsxx> Hello, i installed Ubuntu 12.04 lts today, through wubi on a HDD i plugged in. It seems i am not able to use the full storage of the HDD?
[17:30] <GreatBacon> No problem
[17:30] <hayri> h_boyz: gparted live seems legit, I will check that one, thanks :)
[17:31] <k1l> xxroltsxx: dont use wubi. wubi installs into a container inside windows and is restricted in many ways
[17:31] <k1l> xxroltsxx: make a real install in own partitions
[17:31] <xxroltsxx> Is there a way for me to remove these restrictions from this point?
[17:31] <genii> xxroltsxx: Since wubi installs into a file, you're limited by the size of the windows fs.
[17:32] <k1l> xxroltsxx: yes, install into a real partition and not with wubi
[17:32] <gordonjcp> xxroltsxx: don't use wubi, it sucks
[17:32] <xxroltsxx> Okay, thanks i'll do that.
[17:32] <Rory> theSonGoku: What Ubuntu version are you using?
[17:32] <chaotic_good> reiserFS for the WIN!!!!
[17:32] <chaotic_good> YEAH boyyy
[17:32] <xer0z> hello, i installed ubuntu-desktop on ubuntu server with the following cmd, "sudo aptitude install --without-recommends ubuntu-desktop" and now i'm wondering how to remove it?
[17:33] <chaotic_good> olol
[17:33] <chaotic_good> 12.04 has nice installer
[17:33] <chaotic_good> lts baby
[17:33] <chaotic_good> I do JFS for /
[17:33] <chaotic_good> and reiserfs for any data sapce
[17:33] <Rory> !enter | chaotic_good
[17:37] <lionrouge> hi
[17:37] <lionrouge> is 13.10 beta2 stable enough?
[17:37] <mrrcp> no
[17:37] <theSonGoku> Rory: Ubuntu 13.04
[17:38] <mrrcp> its a beta2
[17:38] <MonkeyDust> lionrouge  13.10 questions in #ubuntu+1
[17:38] <lionrouge> ok ^_^
[17:38] <Rory> theSonGoku: Can you please put the full error of what happens when you try to install something, on http://paste.ubuntu.com and put the URL in channel
[17:43] <theSonGoku> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6205914/
[17:43] <Rory> theSonGoku: That's not how apt-get works
[17:43] <Rory> !apt | theSonGoku
[17:43] <skinux> Can rsync be told to display which files it is moving as it is moving them?
[17:44] <Rory> skinux: rsync -v
[17:44] <Rory> skinux: also rsync --progress
[17:45] <oc_hawk> Is "Intel Corporation Lynx Point-LP" a new wireless hardware?
[17:45] <oc_hawk> cannot seem to get ubuntu to recognize this "Intel Corporation Lynx Point-LP" hardware.  It works find in Windows
[17:45] <theSonGoku> I actualy saw quiet everyone using this command this way, just putting apt-get update in front..whats wrong now?
[17:47] <Rory> theSonGoku: You do "sudo apt-get install packagename" for example: "sudo apt-get install banshee" to install the Banshee music player
[17:47] <Rory> theSonGoku: That's ALL you do, you don't download anything first
[17:47] <Rory> theSonGoku: I'd recommend using the Ubuntu Software Centre to install software. The selection of packages is the same, it is just a front-end to apt-get
[17:47] <chaotic_good> I reeccomend using reiserFS on lvm2
[17:47] <wsky> hey, will mir be work with the nvidia propetiary drivers?
[17:47] <chaotic_good> aw yeah
[17:48] <Rory> oc_hawk: Can you please let me know your Ubuntu version, and paste the output of the command: "sudo lspci -v" onto http://paste.ubuntu.com
[17:48] <bazhang> !ot | chaotic_good
[17:48] <wsky> be working*
[17:48] <theSonGoku> so APT just installs me pre-defined programms I wanna use? so how can I install programms I actualy downloaded by using the terminal?
[17:49] <bazhang> wsky, mir has been delayed as of now
[17:49] <wsky> bazhang: so, it wont be included in 13.10?
[17:49] <wheatthin> theSonGoku,  by using their install methods
[17:49] <bazhang> wsky, for testing only
[17:49] <wsky> ah ic
[17:49] <wsky> but, will it work with these drivers in the future?
[17:50] <bazhang> wsky, thats for future releases, no way to know at this point
[17:50] <wsky> kthx
[17:50] <pfifo>  vnnnnnnnnnbjjjjjjjjl
[17:50] <pfifo> lllllllppppppppppppp
[17:50] <Pici> pfifo: stop
[17:51] <pfifo> sorry
[17:51] <Pici> theSonGoku: There are thousands of applications in the repositories. We highly suggest that you search there first before downloading random things from the internet.
[17:51] <Ponch0> Does anyone know how to get c++ running on eclipse kepler standard in ubuntu 13.04?
[17:52] <MonkeyDust> theSonGoku  programs from outside the repos are not screened and a potential threat to you your system
[17:52] <wabash> Hello. does the Ubuntu live DVD come with video codecs for mp4, flash, etc?
[17:52] <Rory> theSonGoku: Also they are more difficult to install, update and maintain, and can cause weird problems later down the line that you wouldn't even think of
[17:53] <MonkeyDust> theSonGoku  and you cannot come here to ask support if they cause problems
[17:53] <qwebirc11561> wabash: They don't come by default, but it's easy to install them during the installation, or right after it completes
[17:53] <theSonGoku> do u mean this ubuntu search thing I have in my list with     search in the repository?
[17:54] <Rory> theSonGoku: What are you trying to do? We can help you do it
[17:54] <wabash> qwebirc11561:Thanks. So booting off the live DVD, I won't be able to view videos that way. But then, can I install things to the live DVD running?
[17:54] <wabash> i.e., without installing to disk?
[17:54] <theSonGoku> I just want to install steam actualy
[17:54] <skinux> Does Ubuntu ever delete encrypted versions of hard disk?
[17:54] <theSonGoku> and hope to learn much about ubuntu because I use it since one day now :D
[17:55] <skinux> Does Ubuntu ever delete encrypted versions of hard disk?
[17:55] <lotuspsychje> wabash: installing vlc after can be doing miracles aswell :p
[17:55] <qwebirc11561> wabash: I don't think you can. The "area" in your memory created by the live DVD is very small
[17:55] <wabash> lotuspsychje: vlc is a nice application.
[17:55] <MonkeyDust> theSonGoku  there's also the channel #ubuntu-steam
[17:55] <Rory> theSonGoku: The Steam Client is available through the Ubuntu Software Center (USC). Run the USC, search for Steam, and install it
[17:55] <qwebirc11561> wabash: You can test the preinstalled applications, go to the internet, see how things work...
[17:55] <wabash> qwebirc11561: Synaptic is gone, yes? What do we use now to install?
[17:55] <oc_hawk> Rory, sorry for the delay - had to dig out a USB hub to get wired connection & mouse going
[17:55] <oc_hawk> Rory, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6205960/
[17:55] <Rory> skinux: Ubuntu doesn't randomly delete things, no.
[17:56] <skinux> Does Ubuntu ever delete encrypted versions of hard disk?
[17:56] <qwebirc11561> wabash: Ubuntu Software Centre. But you can install Synaptic too
[17:56] <qwebirc11561> manually
[17:56] <wabash> qwebirc11561: What do you mean test preinstalled over internet....
[17:56] <oo_miguel> hi there
[17:57] <qwebirc11561> I enumerated what you can do in a live environment. Go to the Internet, Check the software that is included in the live DVD, and Install the liveDVD on your disk too
[17:57] <wabash> I see.
[17:57] <wabash> thanks.
[17:57] <Rory> oc_hawk: Is it wireless internet that isn't working (wifi) ?
[17:57] <wabash> back in ubu 11 or so, I installed new packages to a live running
[17:58] <Rory> oc_hawk: Does your system have a make and model? I see it's a sony but more specific
[17:58] <oc_hawk> Rory: yes, wireless internet is not working; no wireless option even offered in network manager
[17:58] <oc_hawk> Rory, Sony Vaio Duo 13 (SVD13213CXW)
[17:59] <theSonGoku> I found steam in USC but there is no button to install it :D
[18:00] <Rory> !paste | theSonGoku can you take a screenshot?
[18:00] <theSonGoku> which button is for screenshots?
[18:01] <Rory> theSonGoku: print screen (on your keyboard)
[18:01] <teclado> the one that says "Print screen"
[18:01] <oo_miguel> I am trying to configure my wlan interface (Which is a usb stick, during the installation of ubuntu. since the installer is not able to configure it properly I executed the shell in order to try it manually. How can I do that. I have a wlan0 interface and zd1211rw was loaded automatically
[18:01] <Rory> oc_hawk: Can you pastebin me "sudo lspci -vvv"
[18:01] <vivek__> hiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii
[18:01] <teclado> Alt + "print screen" to get a screenshot of a window
[18:01] <Rory> oo_miguel: What Ubuntu version are you using? And what is the model number of the wireless device?
[18:02] <vivek__> hi alina
[18:02] <oo_miguel> Rory: how do I get the model number?
[18:02] <JDmaschera> hello
[18:02] <vivek__> hello
[18:02] <Rory> oo_miguel: It'll be printed on a sticker. If you can't find it, please post the output from the command: "sudo lsusb" onto http://paste.ubuntu.com
[18:02] <k1l> oo_miguel: lsusb
[18:02] <theSonGoku> http://imagebin.org/273013
[18:02] <JDmaschera> !lista completa
[18:02] <k1l> Rory: no need for sudo for that
[18:02] <oc_hawk> Rory, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6205992/
[18:03] <oo_miguel> Rory k1l : there is no lsusb in the installers shell
[18:03] <Rory> theSonGoku: That's really weird, what happens when you click Buy (it's free...)
[18:03] <oo_miguel> Rory: sticker says: XG-760N
[18:03] <theSonGoku> referres me to ubuntu one
[18:04] <k1l> theSonGoku: its for free but you need to "buy" it in the store
[18:04] <oo_miguel> Rory:  I am trying to install ubuntu from the boot.img file I downloaded yesterday
[18:04] <Rory> !steam | further reading here theSonGoku
[18:04] <k1l> theSonGoku: or you take that .deb package: http://media.steampowered.com/client/installer/steam.deb
[18:04] <Rory> oo_miguel: Thanks
[18:04] <k1l> theSonGoku: or you ask specific in #ubuntu-steam
[18:04] <Rory> theSonGoku: wget http://media.steampowered.com/client/installer/steam.deb && sudo dpkg -i steam.deb
[18:05] <oo_miguel> Rory: I thank you, for trying to help me :)
[18:05] <lotuspsychje> !cookie | Rory
[18:05] <Rory> yes my grep for that piped to wc -l just incremented
[18:06] <Rory> oo_miguel: I've found some instructions here that might work https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/58993
[18:06] <Rory> oo_miguel: It uses ndiswrapper to use the Windows driver
[18:07] <oo_miguel> Rory: thanks a lot I will have a look
[18:08] <arussel> I install openjdk-7-jdk and get java and javac version 1.7. Then I installed maven and end up with a java 1.6 and javac 1.7. Can I consider something is broken ?
[18:08] <oo_miguel> Rory: how can i obtain ndsiwrapper without a network connection
[18:08] <Rory> oo_miguel: Hold on a sec
[18:09] <oo_miguel> Rory: can i simply download the files from somewhere and put on ann usb stick
[18:09] <oo_miguel> Rory: ok
[18:09] <Rory> oo_miguel: Yes I think there's 3 you need. Did you say 13.04?
[18:09] <Rory> oo_miguel: 32 or 64 bit?
[18:09] <MACscr> grr, i have a system that seems to constantly switch to a dhcp address even though i have a static ip setup for it. any ideas what in the world could be the issue? http://hastebin.com/naqamiduma.rb
[18:09] <MACscr> its driving me mad.
[18:09] <oo_miguel> Rory: 32 bit. how can I see the version from inside the shell of the installer?
[18:09] <teclado> How do I enable the system beep?
[18:10] <arussel> can I use update-alternatives without command line question ? (I'm using it from a script)
[18:10] <oc_hawk> MACscr, static on client side or static on dhcp server?
[18:10] <oo_miguel> Rory: its 3.2.0 kernel
[18:10] <MACscr> oc_hawk: static on client
[18:10] <oo_miguel> Rory: but i do not know how to check the ubuntu version from the shell
[18:10] <Rory> oo_miguel: To find out, "cat /etc/issue"
[18:10] <oo_miguel> not present in the installers shell :(
[18:10] <oc_hawk> MACscr, multiple devices on that client requesting IP address?
[18:11] <oo_miguel> Rory: but its most recent boot.img i got yesterday
[18:11] <Rory> oo_miguel: I'm going to forge ahead and give you links to the 13.04 versions, on the assumption that it probably doesn't matter anyway
[18:11] <theSonGoku> installed steam successfully, that you :)
[18:11] <lysdexia> I'm in a bit of a pickle with logrotate and rsyslog. It appears that rsyslog is not releasing logfiles when logrotate attempts to create a new file. The newly renamed file then grows to fill the partition.
[18:11] <lotuspsychje> !yay | theSonGoku
[18:12] <oo_miguel> Rory: : http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/precise/main/installer-i386/current//images/netboot/boot.img.gz
[18:12] <oo_miguel> Rory: this is the file I am using
[18:12] <lysdexia> Thus far I've been able to simply move the file to a roomier partition, then restart rsyslog, which releases the file and allows the system to see the recovered space.
[18:12] <Rory> oo_miguel: http://packages.ubuntu.com/raring/all/ndiswrapper-common/download http://packages.ubuntu.com/raring/i386/ndiswrapper-utils-1.9/download http://packages.ubuntu.com/raring/i386/ndisgtk/download
[18:12] <lysdexia> Today, that did not work.
[18:12] <GreatBacon> MACscr, are there any other devices on the network with this one?
[18:12] <theSonGoku> well as I started to use ubuntu yesterday I was hoping for doing as much as possible with commands in the terminal..I am a little disappointed there is a way to get the most already done from ubuntu itself
[18:12] <oo_miguel> Rory: you are an angel :)
[18:13] <Rory> oo_miguel: Then once you have them on a flash drive it's "sudo dpkg -i ndis*deb" but you knew that
[18:13] <dot8> Hi
[18:13] <Rory> hello dot8
[18:13] <lotuspsychje> theSonGoku: what you mean by that
[18:13] <oo_miguel> Rory: thank you ver much
[18:14] <Rory> theSonGoku: That's a nice problem to have though
[18:14] <Rory> theSonGoku: "it's too easy"
[18:15] <MACscr> GreatBacon: a dozen servers
[18:15] <Guest96712> Hey guys, how can I change my screen resolution in ubuntu?
[18:15] <oc_hawk> theSonGoku, you don't have to use a package manager with a GUI...you just need to learn apt-get better ;)
[18:15] <dot8> I have a problem with my grub at start up. grub freeze after i select a kernel.
[18:15] <dot8> I try boot-repair to fix it, but it does not fix my problem
[18:15] <dot8> I need help to get it running. I have efi system with crypto
[18:15] <dot8> Here is the log from boot-repair: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6204717/
[18:15] <FloodBot1> dot8: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:15] <GreatBacon> MACscr: are they all set to static?
[18:15] <lotuspsychje> !apt | theSonGoku
[18:16] <Rory> Guest96712: Type "Displays" in the dash or click on the computer icon in the top right corner and select the second item in the menu.
[18:16] <MACscr> oc_hawk: nope. Its just a regular server right now, nothign special about it. I have 2 other systems that were installed the same way that arent experiencing the issue. i have 4 nics on each server as well if that makes a diff
[18:16] <MACscr> but again, setup the same way
[18:16] <oc_hawk> MACscr, do you have access to the DHCP server admin?  Maybe something else is staking claim to your desired IP address
[18:17] <theSonGoku> well...there is a little story behind that I fastly gonna tell u..as I started my first apprenticeship I went to school and saw a classmate with unbelievable much knowledge of computers, networks and so on...he was sitting in front of his little 13 zoll linux laptop and was typing all in his console..that realy impressed me alot and I wanted to get to that point one day myself..thats why I was a little disappointed..I dont have any problem
[18:17] <theSonGoku> s to work me through hard things...the opposite is the case..I just need a little knowledge I can work from :)
[18:17] <oc_hawk> MACscr, are you positive that the NIC you want the static IP address assigned to is the one that is in control?
[18:17] <MACscr> oc_hawk: DHCP is only setup to give out ip addresses .255 through .254. The static ip is .105
[18:17] <Guest96712> hey guys, how can I change my screen resolution?
[18:17] <MACscr> er, .235 through .255
[18:18] <oc_hawk> MACscr, the static IP address is only assigned to 1 of the 4 NICs.  If one of the other 3 is the "master" it could be requesting an IP address from DHCP
[18:18] <MACscr> oc_hawk: the static ip works fine for a couple hours until it randomly gets the dhcp address. Did you look at that hastebin outlout of the syslog?
[18:19] <Rory> Guest96712: Type "Displays" in the dash
[18:19] <MACscr> the static ip and the dhcp address are both being assigned to the same nic
[18:20] <oc_hawk> MACscr, sorry, i did not see your hastebin link; do see it now
[18:20] <Guest96712> ok thank you, but can you please tell me what dash is because i am a newbie ;D
[18:21] <tozen> Guest96712: Super+F2
[18:21] <tozen> Guest96712: or Win+F2
[18:21] <oc_hawk> Rory, did my `lspci -vvv` give you any more information?
[18:22] <tozen> Guest96712: sorry Alt+F2
[18:22] <Guest96712> ty it works
[18:23] <Rory> Guest96712: I'd recommend having a quick read of this to familiarise yourself https://help.ubuntu.com/13.04/ubuntu-help/index.html
[18:23] <kongthap> i just got a power failure haft an hour ago, i can boot into desktop but i can do almost nothing, during booting i saw an error like "/tmp" is not present, when boot into desktop i got error like "read only file system", please guide me what to do?
[18:24] <Rory> oc_hawk: Honestly, no. Could you pastebin "sudo lsusb -v" for me?
[18:24] <dot8> someone who can help me?
[18:24] <tozen> kongthap: choose recovery mode in grub then tipe in mount -o remount,rw /
[18:25] <gryg> Hello, If I need to install os today, should I install ubuntu 13.10 or 13.04?
[18:25] <kongthap> tozen: i must re-boot right? and type your command...
[18:25] <tozen> kongthap: yes
[18:25] <genii> kongthap: Shut down properly, then choose recovery mode as tozen suggests, get to root console and issue fsck
[18:25] <genii> tozen: No remount,rw with fsck :)
[18:25] <kongthap> tozen: when boot using recovery mode i must choose to access shell with root right?
[18:25] <dot8> can you read me when floodbot comment my post?
[18:26] <gryg> I know 13.10 will be released 17.10.2013 but it is in final beta
[18:26] <Guest96712> @Rory when i want to chose the different resolutions i can't change into 1920x...
[18:26] <tozen> gryd i would suggest to install 12.04.3 LTS it's stable with long term support
[18:26] <Guest96712> ok works ;)
[18:26] <tozen> dot8: what the matter?
[18:27] <kongthap> genii: i had tried to use fsck but via the recovery mode, i should execute that command again via shell???
[18:27] <dot8>  I have a problem with my grub at start up. grub freeze after i select a kernel.
[18:27] <tozen> kongthap: yes pal
[18:27] <genii> kongthap: When you ran it from the recovery, did it say it fixed the fs?
[18:27] <dot8> I try boot-repair to fix it, but it does not fix my problem
[18:27] <dot8> I need help to get it running. I have efi system with crypto
[18:27] <oc_hawk> Rory, `sudo lsusb -v`: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6206096/
[18:27] <dot8> Here is the log from boot-repair: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6204717/
[18:28] <kongthap> tozen: all i have to type "mount -o remount, rw /" ????
[18:28] <oo_miguel> how can I blacklist a specific module from the installers shell?
[18:29] <kongthap> genii: i saw a message like do i wanna fix, and i pressed a keyboard to fix it
[18:29] <tozen> kongthap: yes!
[18:29] <sasmit87> Hi guys ..I am very new to ubuntu
[18:29] <jason39828> can someone aim me in the right direcection for installation help? (complete newbie)
[18:29] <Rory> oo_miguel: Looks like that's been truncated. Can you pastebin just "lsusb"
[18:29] <Rory> !install | jason39828
[18:29] <tozen> kongthap: but without space just mount -o remount,rw /
[18:30] <kongthap> tozen: what between " " is exactly right, because i know nothing about the command??? :)
[18:30] <kongthap> tozen: ok ok :)
[18:30] <jason39828> already looked through
[18:30] <oo_miguel> Rory: you mean me?
[18:30] <tozen> jonFriese: help.ubuntu.com
[18:30] <Rory> jason39828: Are you having a problem? How far have you got?
[18:30] <Rory> oo_miguel: Yes I want to see "sudo lsusb"
[18:30] <sasmit87> when I write command ll then one file is displaying * to its right side
[18:30] <kongthap> tozen: i will try that first and will come and ask again
[18:30] <oc_hawk> Rory, are you actually talking to me?
[18:30] <oo_miguel> Rory: there is no lsusb in the installers shell
[18:31] <sasmit87> when I write command ll then one file is displaying * to its right side. what does this means ??
[18:31] <tozen> kongthap: no probs should be ok
[18:31] <oo_miguel> Rory: I am now working on the solution you suggested. Will tell you if it worked
[18:31] <jason39828> all the way to reboot after it says complete(dual with old xp sys)
[18:31] <oo_miguel> Rory: the ndiswrapper thing
[18:31] <bozz> \q
[18:32] <oo_miguel> Rory:  oc_hawk : I thhin Rory got confused with our nicknames ;)
[18:32] <tozen> jonFriese: so, what the problem you've got?
[18:32] <oc_hawk> Rory, non-verbose lsusb: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6206117/
[18:32] <jason39828> it lets me all the way back to log in them nothing
[18:32] <sasmit87> when I write the command ll then one file is displaying with * to its right side . what does this mean ?? sorry I m very new to ubuntu
[18:33] <tozen> jonFriese: so, trying to login you get drop back to logon screen or what?
[18:34] <tozen> jason39828: so, trying to login you get drop back to logon screen or what?
[18:34] <OerHeks> jason39828, dual boot with old xp, if you have a SATA hdd, your hdd controller in your bios might be set to IDE mode, change it to AHCI ( and after this xp won't  boot anymore) as linux needs AHCI mode.
[18:35] <Rory> oo_miguel: oc_hawk: you both got similar names lol sorry
[18:35] <oc_hawk> Rory, oo_miguel lol
[18:35] <jason39828> so i wil have to choose one or the other?
[18:36] <Rory> oc_hawk: Honestly I can't even see which one is your wifi there. And I need to go eat dinner. If you summarise your problem on one line with both your "lspci" and "lsusb" pastebins hopefully someone else can help
[18:36] <OerHeks> jason39828, as XP does not have SATA controller drivers onboard during install, you need to change it yes
[18:36] <oc_hawk> Rory, thanks for trying; i think we're in the same boat here...
[18:36] <tozen> Rory: 7:36 dinner??? o_O :)
[18:37] <oc_hawk> Rory, my wifi is not in lsusb; it is an internal component (not USB)
[18:37] <xxroltsxx> Hello again, i just de installed Ubuntu 12.04 because wubi did not work like i wanted. So i had put the image on my usb, now i got this additional HDD to put linux on. I did not want Ubuntu to be on my Windows 7 HDD. (i had one laying so why not??) Now it is asking me to select a partition on the HDD to be used.. there is nothing on it and it is formated to Fat32. Now i just selected the max amount to be used. After that it said i had one partition und
[18:37] <xxroltsxx> er 2.5 GB and i had to change it.
[18:37] <kongthap> tozen: i ran "mount -o remount,rw /" i got nothing in response after pressing enter
[18:37] <jason39828> okay, thank you
[18:38] <oo_miguel> Rory: oc_hawk: ;)
[18:38] <tozen> kongthap: shouldn't be
[18:38] <xxroltsxx> Now the only partition under 2.5 was the swap. I was not able to change it's amount.
[18:38] <wilee-nilee> xxroltsxx: you have a need for the fat?
[18:39] <xxroltsxx> No i thought it was essential for Ubuntu
[18:39] <xxroltsxx> I am not well informed :)
[18:39] <kongthap> tozen: i also ran ran fsck from the recovery screen this time i didn't display me any errors, just let me know it finish just press enter...
[18:39] <oo_miguel> oc_hawk: I think that also internal components might manifest themselves in lsusb
[18:39] <oo_miguel> oc_hawk: similarily many on-board chip (that are not pci cards) are in lspci
[18:39] <xxroltsxx> Should i make it 100% clean?
[18:39] <kongthap> tozen: any command line i can use to get info from the system, so i can tell you more info
[18:39] <oc_hawk> oo_miguel, no doubt, but not this one; it appears in lspci
[18:40] <wilee-nilee> xxroltsxx: only on a usb for a live image an ext4 is the partition used on an install.
[18:40] <oc_hawk> the device in question is this one: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6206148/
[18:40] <kongthap> tozen: i don't know what it is, just got message like read only file system, that's all
[18:40] <jason39828> will an older ver. of ubunto possably work with it...all im doing right now is trying to get familer with the system but dont really want to lose my windows yet
[18:40] <oo_miguel> oc_hawk: I am struggling with my external usb network interface right now :(
[18:40] <oc_hawk> but ubuntu is not recognizing it as wireless hardware
[18:40] <tozen> kongthap: still?
[18:40] <xxroltsxx> I see, so it would partition everything fully for me if i had nothing on it at all?
[18:40] <oo_miguel> oc_hawk: the FIRST step is to recognize the device in lspci
[18:41] <oo_miguel> oc_hawk: Can you find it there?
[18:41] <kongthap> tozen: yes still, and most app cannot be launch, still lucky x-chat can be launch
[18:41] <oc_hawk> oo_miguel, yep, that was that paste from lspci http://paste.ubuntu.com/6206148/
[18:41] <wilee-nilee> xxroltsxx: yep, it would auto install,make sure it is the right HD.
[18:41] <xxroltsxx> Yea, i was wondering if i had the right one at first hehe.
[18:41] <kongthap> tozen: how to comfirm that /tmp is ok or not??? any command???
[18:41] <xxroltsxx> Thanks i'll try now.
[18:42] <tozen> kongthap: well. let get back so what you've done before? have you installed smth or deleted manually?
[18:42] <oo_miguel> oc_hawk: A kernel driver was loaded too already. What does "ip addr show" give you?
[18:42] <kongthap> tozen: i don't know "smth" at all
[18:42] <wizard_A> when i try ssh to a server it giver a permission denied error
[18:42] <kongthap> tozen: i got a power failure...
[18:42] <tekk> sounds silly... but... fresh install of ubuntu server... ssh selected at install time
[18:43] <tekk> but sshd isn't running
[18:43] <tekk> and i've left the building foolishly
[18:43] <tekk> but i have access to other machines on that LAN
[18:43] <tekk> anyway i can get in ?
[18:43] <FloodBot1> tekk: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:43] <Rory> tekk: No
[18:43] <oc_hawk> oo_miguel, `ip addr show`: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6206159/
[18:43] <Rory> wizard_A: Are you typing the correct password?
[18:43] <genii> tekk: Is 22 forwarded to that box?
[18:44] <wizard_A> Rory: i'm not being prompted for the password.
[18:44] <tozen> kongthap: ok have you got livecd/usb?
[18:44] <oo_miguel> oc_hawk: So your problem is that its eth0 instaed of wlan0 ?
[18:44] <oo_miguel> oc_hawk: or ist eth0 another interface thats working fine?
[18:44] <kongthap> tozen: yes i have
[18:44] <MACscr> oc_hawk: any ideas after looking at that log output?
[18:44] <free_mind> Can someone advise my what the best method is for copying a whole disk to a new one. dd is pretty slow... I've installed one ubuntu disk and need exactly the same install for another system. Current disk is setup with /boot on primary partion, and others are LVM.
[18:44] <dot8> is my question stupid or is it not the right channel to ask?
[18:44] <MKCoin> How can I disable windows fading out when I close them? On 12.04
[18:44] <oo_miguel> dot8: what is your question?
[18:45] <bekks> free_mind: what was your exact dd command?
[18:45] <oc_hawk> oo_miguel, well, i had to track down a USB->ETH dongle so I could connect to here for support; the wired dongle isn't really my preferred means of using this tablet-like device ;)
[18:45] <free_mind> bekks: haven't used dd yet, cause is sector for sector --> slow!
[18:45] <oc_hawk> MACscr, Honestly, I don't know what that log was supposed to be showing...
[18:45] <bekks> free_mind: then you did not read about the bs= option.
[18:45] <dot8> oo_miguel: my grub freeze after I selct a kernel: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6204717/
[18:46] <bekks> free_mind: dd uses blocks, not sectors.
[18:46] <loss> I am able to ping gateway IP but I cant reach outside of our network. What do?
[18:46] <free_mind> bekks: so you're saying, dd can be pretty fast?
[18:46] <bekks> free_mind: Correct.
[18:46] <tozen> kongthap: pop in then through livecd console tipe in <sudo fdisk -l> you'll see all your disk then try to check them with <sudo fsck -y -c -f /dev/sdXY> XY - your disks numbers
[18:47] <genii> tekk: If you're on a box on the same network segment and know it's ip you can try hopscotch in from there. If it's not responding on port 22 at that point then you know you have to go physically look at it.
[18:47] <free_mind> bekks: hmm... maybe a year ago my dd command wasn't the right one. So the key point to look into is bs?
[18:47] <bekks> free_mind: Setting dd to use a blocksize that the smallest size of the cache sizes of the disks involved usually speeds up dd a lot. And replacing dd with mbuffer allows you to use your RAM as cache for the asynchronous I/O thats happening when reading from one disk and writing to another disk.
[18:47] <oo_miguel> dot8: I would try #grub or similar complemenarely to this one.
[18:47] <oc_hawk> free_mind, is this something you will be doing more often than once?  might i recommend clonezilla;  if just one time, use dd
[18:48] <dot8> oo_miguel: ok
[18:48] <oo_miguel> oc_hawk: So your wlan interface does not show up at all...
[18:48] <oc_hawk> oo_miguel, you got it
[18:48] <free_mind> oc_hawk: thanks. I know the project, but this is a one timer... :)
[18:48] <oo_miguel> oc_hawk: what does dmesg tell you about that
[18:48] <kongthap> tozen: first boot into lived cd, then open terminal and don't have to change to any directory right???
[18:49] <kongthap> tozen: then just type "sudo fidisk -l"
[18:49] <oo_miguel> oc_hawk: when you plug in and unplug your "dongle"
[18:49] <tozen> kongthap: no
[18:49] <tozen> kongthap: uuups yes u r right
[18:49] <free_mind> bekks: thank you for explaining. Any pointer for a great howto on this subject?
[18:49] <oc_hawk> oo_miguel, the dongle is working...that is how i am talking to you now.  it is the wireless device built into this brand spanking new hardware that is not being recognized by ubuntu
[18:50] <tozen> kongthap: fdisk -l
[18:50] <bekks> free_mind: http://www.maier-komor.de/mbuffer.html
[18:50] <oo_miguel> oc_hawk: is this brand new wlan hardware listed in lspci or lsusb?
[18:50] <kongthap> tozen: after fdisk, i just type "sudo fsck -y -c- f /dev/sda5" (sorry i didn't spell check the fdisk thing)
[18:50] <oc_hawk> oo_miguel, it is in lspci
[18:51] <oo_miguel> oc_hawk: the thing you posted right?
[18:51] <kongthap> tozen: do i need to fsck all partition or just only file system partition?
[18:51] <tozen> kongthap: yes as example sudo fsck -y -c -f /dev/sda1
[18:51] <oc_hawk> oo_miguel, yes: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6206148/
[18:51] <genii> kongthap: All of them except the swap partition or windows partitions
[18:51] <MACscr> oc_hawk: any ideas on what i should do to try to troubleshoot it? I dont get why my /etc/network/interfaces setting is not being respected?
[18:51] <tozen> kongthap: only main partition with a system installed
[18:52] <kongthap> genii: ok
[18:52] <oo_miguel> oc_hawk: does dmesg give you any information about what heppens during loading this module?
[18:52] <kongthap> tozen: i will try it and come back again,thanks
[18:52] <oo_miguel> oc_hawk:  dmesg | grep mei_me
[18:52] <airandfingers> when i run "sudo service mongodb start" (ubuntu), the service doesn't actually start, but it works fine when i run the command from /etc/init/mongodb.conf: "sudo mongod -f /etc/mongodb.conf".. what's the difference?
[18:53] <oc_hawk> MACscr, my only suggestion isn't a very good one.  instead of having the client demand a static address, i would have the server assign a static address to that mac address
[18:53] <oc_hawk> oo_miguel, nada http://paste.ubuntu.com/6206194/
[18:54] <chaotic_good> amazon not liek reiserFS
[18:55] <chaotic_good> baaastards
[18:55] <MACscr> oc_hawk: i have a static ip assigned http://hastebin.com/hixifohape.vala
[18:55] <oo_miguel> oc_hawk: I think that there should be some indication of the module beeing loaded inside dmesg, but I am admittedly dnot an expert on that topic..
[18:56] <Pistos> Hi.  I'm trying to install Ubuntu alongside a system that already has Windows and Gentoo on it.  I've gotten to the point of the DVD installer that says "Install Ubuntu alongside them".  I'm prompted to "Allocate drive space by dragging the divider below:"  This is great, except for the part that neither half of the division is labelled.  I have no idea which part will be Ubuntu, and which part free space.
[18:56] <Pistos> Can anyone enlighten me?
[18:56] <eer> Where is the xorg.conf located in Ubuntu?
[18:57] <baggar11> eer: /etc/X11/
[18:58] <bschindler> Hi - is there an "official" to get a newer nvidia driver than the 313 one?
[18:58] <liquidmetal> what's that gymnast movie where he's super unhappy even though he has everything. Then someone comes along to show him how to be happy within.
[18:58] <oc_hawk> MACscr, yeah, but that is on your client side, right?  I am saying that I would move that responsibility to your server that divvies out IP addresses.  when it sees your hardware in question, give it 192.168.0.105
[18:58] <eer> baggar11, not under /usr/lib/X11/xorg.conf.d/ anymore?
[18:58] <oc_hawk> MACscr, but you are right, it should be respecting the static ip address
[18:59] <OerHeks> eer standard you do not have a xorg.conf, make one if you needit
[18:59] <oc_hawk> eer, did you try `whereis xorg.conf`?
[19:00] <Pistos> Basically this problem, I guess: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1814047&page=2&s=349482b0590b47c55369be3416eda0db
[19:00] <tozen> !offtop liquidmetal
[19:00] <liquidmetal> okay :(
[19:00] <eer> If there isn't an xorg.conf file then where is all the configuration saved?
[19:00] <tozen> liquidmetal: #ubuntu-offtop :)
[19:00] <joeykeys> hey guys - is this the right place to ask about configuring ssl
[19:00] <joeykeys> or would that be in apache
[19:01] <Ari-Yang> eer: what ubuntu version are you on?
[19:01] <liquidmetal> peaceful warrior, btw
[19:01] <MACscr> oc_hawk: i get what your saying, but i find that doing static ip's through the dhcp server to be much riskier and higher chances of problems. Plus i dont get why this 1 server is behaving differently than all the other servers ive setup
[19:01] <GreatBacon> MACscr: when it losses the IP, does another device acquire it
[19:01] <eer> Ari-Yang, 13.04
[19:01] <MACscr> GreatBacon: nope
[19:02] <Ari-Yang> eer: a xorg.conf file isn't needed nowadays... I thinks starting with 12.04 it was taken out
[19:02] <Pistos> http://askubuntu.com/questions/172866/installing-12-04-to-dual-boot-partitions-not-labeled
[19:04] <oc_hawk> MACscr, not sure i agree with you about riskier on server side but in general i hear you, it shouldn't be behaving differently; only thing i can think is that your eth1 is not #1 in the pecking order and eth0, eth2, or eth3 are beating it to the punch when it comes time to requesting an ip address
[19:04] <MACscr> oc_hawk: but the dhcp address is being assigned to eth1
[19:04] <GreatBacon> MACscr: the only other time I've seen stuff like this happen is when the interface or a port on the interface goes down.  Do you Logs show the interface up when losing the iP?
[19:05] <oc_hawk> MACscr, ah, did not realize that; only believed that system was being assigned a new ip; apologies for my confusion; long ways to get here, but "I don't know. Sorry"
[19:06] <MACscr> GreatBacon: what log would show that? What your seeing in the pastebin is exactly what im seeing in the syslog
[19:07] <MKCoin> phew
[19:07] <MACscr> also, notice that its repeating the same message every minute? seems nuts
[19:07] <MACscr> basically every minute: Oct  5 19:16:52 ctrl1 dhclient: DHCPREQUEST of 192.168.0.239 on eth1 to 192.168.0.1 port 67
[19:08] <MACscr> if i restart the network service, it will go back to its static ip address
[19:08] <MACscr> then maybe an hour later, it will start this again
[19:08] <GreatBacon> MACscr: I have seen that a lot, it happens with an IP loop and during a port flap
[19:09] <MACscr> should i try changing out the cable or switch or port something? its an integrated nic
[19:09] <MACscr> er, switch port
[19:09] <GreatBacon> MACscr: yes, id start there
[19:10] <GreatBacon> Cisco switch?
[19:10] <MACscr> brocad
[19:10] <MACscr> brocade
[19:10] <Pistos> Serious problem, yeah: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/1084547
[19:10] <GreatBacon> Yeah
[19:13] <GreatBacon> MACscr: At NetApp when we had filers with that same problem, we often found something at the brocade switch (port flap usually) causing it
[19:14] <GreatBacon> MACscr: how many hops between this machine and the gateway?
[19:15] <MACscr> 2
[19:15] <GreatBacon> The other hop another switch?
[19:15] <MACscr> server, switch, gateway
[19:15] <GreatBacon> Plug directly in
[19:15] <GreatBacon> Are if the issue persists after that
[19:16] <GreatBacon> See*
[19:16] <GreatBacon> Sorry,  on tablet
[19:16] <MACscr> i will plug it into another switch port. Its a 48 port switch
[19:17] <GreatBacon> Right,  sorry, if that doesn't work then go directly over
[19:17] <MACscr> even if the port has issues, why in the world would not still respect the static address?
[19:19] <lilred> hey guys, I accidentally bricked my Ubuntu partition
[19:19] <lilred> I don't have a question, just mentioning it
[19:19] <fire__> i am trying from long time, but still getting the same error i.e. you don't have permission to access /ubuntu on this server. i have setup a ubuntu mirror but i can't access it.
[19:20] <swaagie> TJ-: hmm got it working, just purged the shit out of all the gir1.2 libs and other offending packages now reinstalled tweak tool, gnome-shell etc and everything seems to be working properly, still have to restart though  :) fingers crossed
[19:20] <polter> lilred: how did you manage that?
[19:20] <lilred> polter: I attempted merging /usr/bin and /bin manually, but something broke along the way
[19:21] <polter> lilred: yeah, that's risky business, messing around with /bin
[19:21] <theSonGoku> how can I install java so that I can use java application on websites? as it wasnt in the USC I downloaded it by myself but cant figure out how to install it
[19:21] <lilred> "risky" is an understatement
[19:21] <lilred> theSonGoku: what browser are you using?
[19:21] <theSonGoku> Chrome
[19:22] <MACscr> GreatBacon: ah, just looked at the dhcp log on the dhcp server and its definitely showing the host as going down often
[19:22] <GreatBacon> MACscr: told ya,  Port flap
[19:22] <lilred> theSonGoku: this probably isn't the easiest way, but here is what a quick google brought up: http://www.java.com/en/download/help/enable_browser_ubuntu.xml
[19:23] <lilred> theSonGoku: even better http://askubuntu.com/questions/155852/installing-chrome-java-plugin
[19:23] <GreatBacon> MACscr: start by verifying all physical Connectivity make sure no lose connections
[19:23] <wilee-nilee> theSonGoku, what happened to the it's to easy, huh. ;)
[19:24] <GreatBacon> Then reseat any involved interface card if you can
[19:24] <GreatBacon> Connected by fiber or copper
[19:24] <GreatBacon> ?
[19:25] <MACscr> GreatBacon: its integrated, so cant reseat. Im noticing though that all the flapping happened while i was asleep and the system was idel. I wonder if there could somehow be some sort of power saving mode going on
[19:25] <tessarakt> how do I configure which Framebuffer is used on Ubuntu 13.04?
[19:25] <MACscr> copper
[19:25] <MACscr> idle
[19:25] <MACscr> so as soon as i logged in this morning, it hasnt happened since then
[19:25] <lilred> anyone has experience with merging /usr/bin and /bin? I'd like to know where I should be looking
[19:25] <GreatBacon> MACscr: those copper lines running overhead by florescent lights?
[19:26] <Dr_Willis> lilred:  why do you need to do that?
[19:26] <MACscr> nope
[19:26] <GreatBacon> MACscr: yes,  power saving coff be it to
[19:26] <lilred> Dr_Willis I want to have all my applications mounted on my SSD
[19:27] <GreatBacon> MACscr: can you verify the bios isn't shutting down the cards?
[19:27] <Dr_Willis> lilred:  so put /usr/bin on the ssd?  and use a soft link to point it where its supposed to be?  you dont want to merge the 2 directories
[19:27] <theSonGoku> ok just doing what lilred posted as second possibility because the first one didnt work..even though I dont realy understand what I am doing^^
[19:27] <Ben64> lilred: why not have everything but /home on ssd?
[19:27] <lilred> Ben64: because it's too small
[19:27] <free_mind> bekks: "Setting dd to use a blocksize that the smallest size of the cache sizes of the disks involved" How can I find the optimal cache size of the ssd hd's?
[19:27] <Dr_Willis> lilred:  and whats the size of the ssd?
[19:28] <eer> If I start a new display with startx -- :1 it will be available on control+alt+F8, right?
[19:28] <Dr_Willis> i dident think you wanted to use dd to write to ssd's  (not sure why but ive herd this befor)
[19:28] <bekks> free_mind: check the make and model of your disks using smartctl -a
[19:28] <Dr_Willis> eer:  thats how it normally works yes.
[19:28] <theSonGoku> ok, second one worked :)
[19:29] <eer> But if I run 2 GUIs at the same time, won't the programs running in those GUIs interfere with the programs in the other GUI?
[19:29] <eer> I mean some programs lock files
[19:29] <Dr_Willis> eer:  depends on the program.
[19:29] <eer> What would be an applicatoin to run 2 GUIs?
[19:29] <Dr_Willis> if ran by differnt users. no issues.. ran by the same issue - couldbe.
[19:30] <TJ-> swaagie: Great to hear :)
[19:30] <Dr_Willis> you run whatever winow manager, or desktop you want on the second x session.
[19:30] <eer> Just trying to think of a scenario where it would make sens to start another display via startx -- :1
[19:31] <Dr_Willis> eer:  testing out a 2nd window manager, or desktop on a 2nd monitor. Multi seat setups. running xbmc on a 2nd monitor..
[19:31] <eer> So I could run KDE on F7 and Gnome on F8?
[19:31] <Dr_Willis> eer:  yes - you can run 2 differnt desktops.
[19:31] <eer> How?
[19:31] <Dr_Willis> start the 2n session, tell it to run kde. (or gnome)
[19:31] <eer> How do I start Gnome in F8?
[19:32] <eer> I run KDE in F7
[19:32] <eer> Both are installed, though.
[19:32] <tessarakt> Is nouveaufb available on Ubuntu?
[19:32] <Dr_Willis> eer:  checked askubuntu.com yet? they most likely show the proper wya to do that these days. last i did similer was perhaps 8+ yers ago - i think lightdm can automate it these days
[19:33] <wilee-nilee> !find nouveaufb
[19:33] <Dr_Willis> eer:  startx reads what to run from the .xinitrc or .xsession - but im not sure what command starts kde these days. used to be 'startkde'
[19:33] <Rallias> With upstart, how would I set it to run when a specific volume group is shut down?
[19:34] <eer> ok
[19:34] <eer> thx
[19:36] <free_mind> bekks: Kingston SV300S37A120G -- Can't find any cache value, not even on www.kingston.com/us/ssd/v#sv300s3
[19:36] <joeykeys> hey guys trying to set up https & ssl on a server that hosts several domains
[19:37] <joeykeys> can someone tell me if in my ports.conf file i should do NameVirtualHost myip:443
[19:37] <joeykeys> *:443
[19:37] <tessarakt> args - nouveau was blacklisted in /etc/modprobed.conf/nvidia-current-updates_hybrid.conf ...
[19:39] <Dr_Willis> installing the nvidia driver  would blacklist the noveau modules/driver
[19:39] <bekks> free_mind: it has 256M cache.
[19:39] <free_mind> bekks: Where did you find that .. :)
[19:39] <bekks> free_mind: first google result ;)
[19:40] <Dr_Willis> hard drives got more cache - then what my first pcs had in ram... by a factor of like 1000x ;)
[19:40] <joeykeys> weajesus this room is just status of quits and joins
[19:40] <joeykeys> cant ready anything
[19:40] <free_mind> bekks: I looked at kingston own website and offcource I'm using ddg.gg :)
[19:40] <Dr_Willis> joeykeys:  this is why most people disable the showing of part/join messages in their irc client
[19:41] <joeykeys> using a webclient unfortunately =\
[19:41] <joeykeys> dr_willis: any experience setting up ssql?
[19:41] <Dr_Willis> joeykeys:  the freenode webclient has the feature in its settings
[19:41] <joeykeys> ssl*
[19:41] <Dr_Willis> joeykeys:  no real experience with ssh.
[19:41] <free_mind> bekks: so which value would you advice to set bs? bs=256M ?
[19:41] <Dr_Willis> ssl i mean. ;)
[19:42] <Dr_Willis> free_mind:  any bs size over 8mb of so - is a bit over kill from what ive heard. but at least you are not going real crazy and trying 1GB :)
[19:44] <bekks> free_mind: do you have two identical drives?
[19:44] <free_mind> bekks: yes.
[19:45] <bekks> free_mind: I'd set something like 16M or 32M
[19:45] <free_mind> Dr_Willis: http://serverfault.com/questions/4906/using-dd-for-disk-cloning the first post says 32M works fine (for this guy)
[19:46] <free_mind> bekks: okay, will give it a shot. What speedup can I expect (do you guess)?
[19:46] <bekks> free_mind: thats hard, quite impossible, to guess.
[19:47] <free_mind> bekks: never mind then. Thanks a lot for your input.
[19:48] <free_mind> also to Dr_Willis ... :)
[19:57] <kriskropd> anyone know of some stock watching/info programs for bash? I get the feeling anyone looking for such things just end up curling yahoo or google finance and then building their own interface :/
[19:59] <wadie> I don't have video display neither on vlc nor on movie player. I'm on unity 2d and works fine on 3d.
[20:01] <OerHeks> kriskropd, those bash plugins are called lenses, i find stock watch  & more http://iloveubuntu.net/unity-stock-quotes-lens-07-released-previews-support
[20:02] <chaotic_good> so
[20:02] <Dr_Willis> wadie:  in the vlc settings they have differnt types of 'display rendering' options i recall. could be the default is quirky with your setup
[20:02] <tim-ct> hi all
[20:02] <GreatBacon> Hi tim
[20:02] <chaotic_good> who here uses fastCGI or scgi for web stuff on ubnutu?
[20:02] <kriskropd> OerHeks: I see you've confused bash with unity :)
[20:02] <wadie> Dr_Willis : it's not working on movie player either
[20:02] <wadie> I only hear audo
[20:02] <wadie> audio
[20:03] <Dr_Willis> wadie:  is this for ALL videos? or just the one?
[20:03] <wadie> all videos
[20:03] <|PiP|`> what is the environment variable for temporary folder path?
[20:03] <Dr_Willis> wadie:  run vlc from a terminal,. play a video. look for errors/info messages in the terminal
[20:03] <Dr_Willis> wadie:  and find some nice generic mp4 video to test with. (like a youtube grab)
[20:03] <Dr_Willis> could be a codec/drm issue
[20:03] <Dr_Willis> bbl
[20:04] <wadie> it's not a codec issue..something related to drivers or unity
[20:04] <tim-ct> i am run 12.04 with 2 nics Everytime i reboot the machine the eth0 and 1 swop round. Any ideas on how to stop me
[20:04] <wadie> because it works on unity 3d
[20:04] <Dr_Willis> wadie:  then explore the video settings ares in vlc.  the perferances->videosettings -> output has a pulldown
[20:05] <GreatBacon> Tim: can you clarify that please?
[20:05] <airandfingers> when i run "sudo service mongodb start" (ubuntu), the service doesn't actually start, but it works fine when i run the command from /etc/init/mongodb.conf: "sudo mongod -f /etc/mongodb.conf".. what's the difference?
[20:06] <OerHeks> kriskropd, oh i see, like linuxtrade > http://linuxtrade.rkkda.com/ (this one is in the repos http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/hardy/en/man1/linuxtrade.1.html )
[20:06] <GreatBacon> Airandfingers: the difference is the directory it's run from.  Did you ensure the path was exported?
[20:06] <tim-ct> now eth0 is 192.168.0.1 and eth1 is 10.0.0.1 after a reboot its eth0 10.0.0.1 and eth1 is 192.168.0.1
[20:06] <sam113101> HELP
[20:06] <sam113101> HELPPPPP
[20:07] <Pici> sam113101: No one can help unless you ask a question.
[20:07] <kriskropd> OerHeks: :o not what i was looking for but I am interested in that find, thank you for sharing :)
[20:07] <sam113101> rhythmbox is broken
[20:07] <sam113101> (rhythmbox:30935): Rhythmbox-CRITICAL **: Timeout was reached
[20:07] <GreatBacon> Tim: are they dynamically or statically assigned?  Are the NICs teamed?
[20:08] <tim-ct> static
[20:08] <sam113101> tim-ct: happened to me once
[20:08] <DeathTone> hey
[20:08] <sam113101> hey
[20:08] <GreatBacon> tim: NIC teaming them or no?
[20:09] <DeathTone> to install ubunto.iso on an old hard drive, i just put the iso on a flash drive, and boot from that?
[20:09] <tim-ct> no
[20:09] <DeathTone> ok
[20:09] <bekks> DeathTone: From the flash drive. And how do you "put ubuntu.iso on a flash drive"?
[20:09] <tim-ct> sam113101: what did u do
[20:09] <DeathTone> wat
[20:10] <DeathTone> ok nvm i think i got it
[20:10] <sam113101> DeathTone: you can't just drop the file on it
[20:10] <sam113101> tim-ct: I had to assign them manually I think
[20:10] <DeathTone> so what do i do
[20:10] <DeathTone> how do i format my flash drive
[20:10] <tim-ct> mine are static
[20:10] <DeathTone> & can i use it as a regular flash drive later?
[20:10] <sam113101> DeathTone: use dd
[20:10] <k1l> DeathTone: you can dd the iso onto that usbstick
[20:10] <k1l> DeathTone: or use the usb-creator
[20:11] <sam113101> DeathTone: no, you'll have to remove the iso from it
[20:11] <sam113101> or you could partition it I guess
[20:11] <altunin> Тут че? Все не Русские?
[20:11] <tim-ct> sam113101: how about loading mac address
[20:11] <sam113101> !ru
[20:11] <kasad> Can you recommend which version/flavor ubuntu would be sutiable for DELL Latitude 2100 (netbook)
[20:12] <xsi> How to insert a dot into a file every after every n-th character? (every 3500 char)
[20:12] <kasad> *is suitable
[20:12] <GreatBacon> xsi: out of scope of this channel,  but use regex
[20:12] <MonkeyDust> xsi  ask in #bash
[20:13] <ochawkeye_> DeathTone, might I suggest checking out http://www.pendrivelinux.com/universal-usb-installer-easy-as-1-2-3/
[20:13] <xsi> greatbacon regex?
[20:13] <ochawkeye_> DeathTone, from a windows machine I have not found an easier way of making a bootable USB live "CD"
[20:14] <GreatBacon> xsi, in #bash they may help you put together a script with regex
[20:14] <kasad> anyone can recommend which version of ubuntu would run reasonably fast on DELL Latitude 2100
[20:14] <kasad> (netbook)
[20:15] <Calinou> xubuntu 13.04
[20:15] <Calinou> lubuntu 13.04 if you want even lighter
[20:15] <kasad> thanks
[20:15] <vlt> xsi: with "sed" maybe, or "dd" and "echo"
[20:15] <Calinou> xubuntu is more featureful though :p
[20:15] <kasad> it's needed for some surfing, text proccessing and thats about it
[20:15] <kasad> maybe listen to some music/watch a video
[20:16] <kasad> no need for other software
[20:16] <kasad> anyway, thanks Calinou
[20:16] <Calinou> no problem
[20:16] <kasad> <3
[20:20] <free_mind> bekks: I did put 'time' in front of my dd command: 497.032 s (8.5 minutes) / 242 MB/s. Pretty fast I think. :-)
[20:21] <free_mind> bs=32M
[20:22] <iROCKnROLLA> Any suggestions for an ideal desktop hardware manufacture to be used for an Ubuntu only call-center setup?
[20:23] <wylde> !hardware | iROCKnROLLA
[20:24] <genii> iROCKnROLLA: Probably something from the list at http://www.ubuntu.com/certification/desktop/
[20:24] <d1g1ta1__>  Are the problems with drives > 2TB limited to Windows and MBR [assuming new hardware that supports EFI/UEFI] or are there cases where Linux may have problems with full-drive single partitions on 3TB+ drives?
[20:25] <ochawkeye_> iROCKnROLLA, I can't imagine it's a serious question, but I'll say https://www.system76.com/
[20:26] <k1l> iROCKnROLLA: talk to canonical for specific support, if it comes to business stuff
[20:29] <GreatBacon> Digital: are you doing hardware raid or software raid
[20:29] <iROCKnROLLA> will do, thx
[20:31] <GreatBacon> Digital: to answer your question, yes the limitation goes away when you use GPT instead of MBR
[20:31] <I2chelp> Hi guys, I've purchased a 2 digit 7 segment display which runs off i2c only requiring two pin connections..., however, no idea how to get it to run. Lots of googling and nothing!! Any help?
[20:31] <GreatBacon> GRUB2 addresses this
[20:33] <I2chelp> Anyone know of any links to similar device I can modificy
[20:34] <ni395442> hello
[20:34] <GreatBacon> Hi
[20:36] <novice_metapod> how do I check my version of unity? what's the syntax?
[20:37] <genii> novice_metapod: unity --version
[20:38] <novice_metapod> genii, thanks
[20:39] <Austin> hello
[20:39] <GreatBacon> Heya
[20:39] <Austin> dose anybody here know how to install ubuntu 13.04 onto a flash drive from a flash drive
[20:40] <Austin> ik its confusing
[20:40] <altunin> есть русские?
[20:41] <MonkeyDust> !ru
[20:41] <genii> !ru | altunin
[20:42] <Austin> !install
[20:45] <kingnick42> trying to install software, the repos are god awfully slow
[20:45] <kingnick42> any ideas why?
[20:46] <kingnick42> I've tried the main server, the marshall islands one, and the nz ones
[20:47] <GreatBacon> Kingnick: when you traceroute to it where do you see the latency,  inside or outside your network
[20:47] <kingnick42> GreatBacon, how does one traceroute?
[20:48] <GreatBacon> Kingnick: traceroute [options] host
[20:49] <max_xam> I broke my Ubuntu again
[20:49] <fishcooker1> how to change timezone from cli?
[20:49] <max_xam> loaded nvidia drivers , now it only goes in to the command prompt
[20:49] <kingnick42> GreatBacon, I'd need to install treaceroute to find that out
[20:50] <kingnick42> and right now, repos are too slow really to install anything
[20:50] <kingnick42> as an example, I ran a sudo apt-get update
[20:50] <kingnick42> its still updating. Has been for the last 10 mins
[20:51] <kingnick42> while steam is installing at a nice 400-600kbs
[20:51] <max_xam> how do i connect to the internet on the commandline with a wireless modem?
[20:51] <max_xam> ifconfig wlan0 up?
[20:51] <GreatBacon> Kingnick: that isn't normal,  did you check with your ISP for known issues affecting users in your area?
[20:52] <kingnick42> GreatBacon, no internet issues around. Its just me when I try to contact the Ubuntu repos in some way
[20:52] <fishcooker1> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6206690/
[20:52] <kingnick42> I'll try another set of repos after this, but all the ones I've tried so far have had the same problem
[20:53] <fishcooker1> is there any alternatif rather than reinstall it?
[20:53] <max_xam> *reaches for windows disc
[20:54] <kingnick42> GreatBacon, its just finished the sudo apt-get update. Took  19mins 48secs
[20:54] <fishcooker> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6206690/
[20:54] <fishcooker> is there any alternatif rather than reinstall it?
[20:57] <GreatBacon> Kingnick: The good news is Ubuntu isn't causing the latency.  Are you on a business class connection,  or personal?
[20:57] <jhutchins> fishcooker: You haven't given us much to go on.  We don't know what release you are on, what command you ran, or what else the output said.  My WAG would be you need to do an fsck.
[20:58] <mn3na3a> can anyone tell me how to change the default file manager for ubuntu 12.04?
[20:58] <kingnick42> GreatBacon, I'm on a home connection, so personal
[20:58] <kingnick42> connected via ethernet (as I know Ubuntu is a little didgy with this wireless card)
[21:00] <fishcooker> sorry jhutchins: revised one http://paste.ubuntu.com/6206729/
[21:02] <kingnick42> GreatBacon, looks like whatever was causing it has stopped? Same repo, same command, only took 3mins
[21:02] <kingnick42> so hopefully it is sorted now
[21:03] <Caelum> I posted a comment on why the synctex plugin is missing from gedit-plugins on the bug page: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gedit-plugins/+bug/1165742?comments=all
[21:04] <fishcooker> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6206738/ the latest output
[21:04] <Caelum> wow, your system is really f*d
[21:05] <fishcooker> what makes that happen Caelum
[21:05] <Caelum> did you delete any system directories?
[21:07] <jhutchins> fishcooker: I still think you need to do shutdown -Fr now and check the disk, but first make sure there is enough free space on it.  It looks like a) debconf may be corrupt, and b) some part of your filesystem is missing.
[21:09] <Caelum> could someone please change the status of that bug to something other than 'fix released' because it's not fixed yet
[21:09] <fuesiufe> AMD HD 7700, AMD Catalyst Center need administrative rights to set someting, Shortcut "AMD Catalyst Control Center (Administrative)" prompts for root password, no matter what i type, root or user password, i just seems to go away and that's it
[21:09] <fuesiufe> *it just
[21:13] <fishcooker> yes  i've missing this file /var/lib/dpkg/available this is what i get from the last apt-get installing command http://paste.ubuntu.com/6206766/
[21:13] <iverson0881> Hi, i'm using upstart 1.5 on ubuntu 12.04lts, and i am unable to set file descriptors beyond 4096, which i beleive is set in /etc/dbus-1/session.conf
[21:14] <iverson0881> i tried creating a session-local.conf file with an increased maximum number, however I'm unable to do get it to be overriden for user jobs
[21:14] <iverson0881> for example: <limit name="max_message_unix_fds">32768</limit>
[21:15] <fishcooker> yes Caelum it this bug fixed but https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/70504 but i dont have the file anymore http://paste.ubuntu.com/6206770/
[21:16] <monst> anyone able to look at a stacktrace of a kernel panic and help me diagnose it?
[21:17] <Caelum> fishcooker: did you delete available-old too?
[21:18] <Caelum> oh yeah
[21:18] <anon505345> hey does anyone know how to stop ubuntu from trying to automatically adjust the brightness on a laptop? There's a light sensor and ubuntu is trying to use it and it's annoying
[21:19] <Caelum> fishcooker: why don't you backup your files and reinstall
[21:19] <Caelum> fishcooker: that will probably be the easiest for you
[21:20] <ochawkeye_> trying with a new batch of helpers :)  i have a sony vaio duo 13 with a BCM43241.  device is detected by 'lspci' but not as a network device by 'lshw' http://paste.ubuntu.com/6206781/ (device detected is a USB->Ens?TH adapter I have plugged in). Any suggestio
[21:20] <monst> @anon505345 http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=958623&p=6064038#post6064038
[21:20] <Caelum> ochawkeye_: broadcom? some of those need special binary drivers
[21:21] <Caelum> monst: there's a #kernelnewbies channel somewhere (not this network) they should be able to help
[21:22] <ochawkeye_> Caelum, any arrows to point in the direction of said binary drivers?
[21:22] <monst> hmm
[21:22] <monst> irc.oftc.net
[21:22] <Caelum> monst: ah it's #kernelnewbies on oftc
[21:22] <monst> =)
[21:23] <monst> Caelum: thans
[21:23] <monst> thanks
[21:25] <wting_> I restarted and now Ubuntu box won't resolve DNS. All other devices on the same network are working fine.
[21:25] <Caelum> ochawkeye_: says you may need firmware here: http://wireless.kernel.org/en/users/Drivers/brcm80211
[21:26] <wting_> I can visit a web sites just fine via IP (e.g. google: http://74.125.225.227/)
[21:32] <calimero_82> hello guys, someone does use wine or playonlinux?
[21:33] <fishcooker> yes my system fu*.. i've seen the command #rm -rf /var/lib/dpkg/available Caelum jhutchins
[21:34] <fishcooker> that the bad news my partner did that last night
[21:34] <FloodBot1> !netsplit
[21:37] <OerHeks> fishcooker sudo dpkg --clear-avail && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[21:41] <yans> Hello people
[21:42] <schnitzl> hi. what is a nice way to autorun scripts on a server. do i have to use rc.local ?
[21:42] <repudiate> schnitzl: I'm not sure.
[21:42] <schnitzl> repudiate,  how can i change that?
[21:42] <jrib> !startup |  schnitzl
[21:43] <schnitzl> jrib, ...server. no gnome.
[21:43] <jrib> schnitzl: /msg ubottu !boot
[21:43] <genii> jrib: Server :)
[21:43] <jrib> schnitzl: the "right" way is to create an upstart script if it's a service
[21:44] <schnitzl> does this work just as init.d jrib ?
[21:44] <jrib> schnitzl: no
[21:44] <schnitzl> aw :(
[21:45] <jrib> schnitzl: well what exactly did you mean? Upstart is different than sysv but upstart still calls the sysv-style scripts you place in init.d if you choose to put one there
[21:45] <hombreew> hi
[21:46] <schnitzl> jrib,  okay...let me ask different: where is the disadvantage to use rc.local
[21:46] <schnitzl> jrib, i want to execute a simple .sh script via rc.local. but it seems not to work. and i have no idea why.
[21:47] <jrib> schnitzl: if it's a service, then you can't manipulate it (start, stop, status, restart etc.) if you just put it in rc.local
[21:48] <jrib> schnitzl: but give more details... what script? what does it look like? what does rc.local look like?
[21:48] <schnitzl> no its no server. its droopy, you know, that very tiny and easy uplaod http server.
[21:48] <hombreew> I have an old laptop running ubuntu hooked up like a media pc, its nice to vnc to it to control it. is there a way to start an xsession on the actual computer from a remote ssh shell? its not nice to have to open the lid and login with the actual laptop then start x11vnc (* remember, actual tv output desired, only vnc not enough, seems like I need REAL xsession)
[21:48] <jrib> "its no server" "server" *confused*
[21:49] <schnitzl> lol sorrry jrib !! :D   no service**
[21:49] <schnitzl> its no service. its just a small sh script. look i will explain the whole story for you. give me a sec.
[21:49] <jrib> schnitzl: still sounds like a service :)
[21:49] <ThreeFourThree> Hey guys, any idea where I can get help on installing Ubuntu? I'm getting a Syslinux 4.04 message on boot and it hangs up there, and I've tried a few different versions; none have worked.
[21:50] <enthdegree> hello everyone. My system does not boot to linux after a successful installation. I think it is due to it having been installed configured as GPT when it's in an MBR/BIOS environment
[21:50] <schnitzl> jrib, i want to start a game server via rc.local. after that a droopy and then folderwatch. it can move files after they are uplaoded into a folder, the idea is, that ppl can push maps to the server without bugging me, and the folderwatcher moves the files to the game folder.
[21:50] <enthdegree> here is my partition setup: http://hastebin.com/nenajumoto.hs
[21:50] <ThreeFourThree> Trying to boot off a USB, if that helps
[21:51] <enthdegree> ThreeFourThree: what
[21:51] <GreatBacon> enthdegree: do you have an error associated with this issue?
[21:51] <enthdegree> No, the screen just goes black
[21:51] <ThreeFourThree> enthdegree: Been trying to install Ubuntu off a USB key, but I'm getting a SYSLINUX 4.04 message each time
[21:52] <schnitzl> jrib, this is my rc local http://pastebin.com/NyqtF4Dj
[21:52] <schnitzl> getting an idea?
[21:52] <wylde> schnitzl: doesn't sound like something you want running as root. Also, will the gameserver not need a reload/restart after the addition of a map?
[21:52] <schnitzl> yea. thats what folderwatch can do.
[21:53] <schnitzl> this is folderwatch http://pastebin.com/nYUWsBG2
[21:53] <jrib> schnitzl: the "right" way is to set this up in upstart.  But if you want to troubleshoot, then it's probably a PATH issues.  Check logs and consider redirecting stdout and stderr to some file
[21:54] <schnitzl> upstart..never worked with that....always sounded weird.
[21:54] <HyperCrush> Hey all. I know this is off topic but is there a channel for Electrical engineering? I have questions about PMOS and NMOS
[21:54] <k1l> !alis | HyperCrush
[21:54] <schnitzl> so you suggest to create a new user for that?
[21:55] <HyperCrush> thanks
[21:55] <Sazpaimon> I'm trying to configure my machine to connect to multiple openvpn servers at and route requests to them as a round robin. How can I accomplish this?
[21:55] <mapper99> Quick question:  What are the major differences between Ubuntu Server and Ubuntu Desktop?
[21:57] <hawk_> Hello, I know Python and I want to contribute to ubuntu developer community but I dont know from where I should start . Please help
[22:00] <jrib> !contribute | hawk_
[22:02] <hawk_> ubottu : Thanks Sir
[22:05] <jmgk> hello
[22:06] <Iwaneez> hi guys. I have an external monitor and ubuntu 13.04 installed with latest legacy driver for my ati 4570 graphic card. I used VGA connection but sometimes the monitor was flashy and wheezy(only on ubuntu, on windows 7 it was ok). So i switched to HDMI. And my problem: As I used VGA there were about 5pixels from notebook screen overlaping into my monitor on the left. Luckily there was a customization in amdccle driver and i moved the screen to the left and
[22:17] <Darkmg> anyone in here help with OOP with UML, or know what channel I should be in?
[22:17] <thewhat> hello ubunt world
[22:17] <thewhat> *ubuntu
[22:18] <GreatBacon> hi thewhat
[22:19] <thewhat> well I wanna install ubuntu on hard drive,I wanna ask if it is stable? did u had to reinstall it after?
[22:20] <GreatBacon> thewhat: The versions supported in this channel are stable and mature.
[22:20] <thewhat> I like it and I wanna use it on my hard drive GreatBacon
[22:21] <thewhat> I have tried liveUSB version
[22:21] <GreatBacon> thewhat: If you want to start installing, I'll be here to help if you run into a problem.
[22:21] <thewhat> wow thank you very much for your support
[22:21] <GreatBacon> thewhat: It's no problem at all
[22:23] <dwarder> i run wubi from iso, why it downloads anything?
[22:23] <dwarder> is it supposed to do so?
[22:29] <Mixxit> can anyone help me fix mysql-server
[22:29] <Mixxit> start mysql returns nothing
[22:29] <Mixxit> service mysql start also gives me nothing
[22:30] <Dr_Willis> whats the exact command you are using?
[22:30] <Mixxit> that
[22:30] <Dr_Willis> no sudo?
[22:30] <Mixxit> im already root
[22:31] <Dr_Willis> try service mysqlwhtever status
[22:31] <Mixxit> i tried to look at the init.d script but i have no clue what this upstart stuff is
[22:31] <Mixxit> nothing from that command
[22:31] <GreatBacon> Missit: can you ensure your path to mysqld is exported
[22:31] <GreatBacon> Mixxit*
[22:31] <Dr_Willis> !upstart
[22:32] <Mixxit> declare -x PATH="/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/games:/usr/local/games"
[22:32] <Mixxit> i have that when i type export
[22:32] <Dr_Willis> status option should return somthing
[22:32] <Mixxit> just goes to next line dr_willis
[22:32] <Rory> Mixxit: What is the output of "sudo service mysql-server status"
[22:32] <Mixxit> i can type mysqld and it will start though, albeit with no output
[22:32] <Rory> Mixxit: How did you install it?
[22:32] <Mixxit> mysql-server: unrecognized service
[22:32] <Mixxit> apt-get install mysql-server is how i installed it
[22:32] <Dr_Willis> how did you 'become root' also?
[22:32] <Mixxit> i did sudo su
[22:33] <Dr_Willis> exit that out
[22:33] <Rory> !root | Mixxit
[22:33] <Rory> Mixxit: How did you install it?
[22:33] <Dr_Willis> back to a normal user and just use 'sudo service
[22:33] <Mixxit> i did apt-get install mysql-server
[22:33] <Dr_Willis> and the rest of the options.
[22:33] <Mixxit> nothing from sudo service mysql status
[22:34] <Dr_Willis> sudo service --status-all     (i think does it for all services)
[22:34] <Rory> Mixxit: If you type " sudo ps aux | grep mys[q]l " do you see any output?
[22:34] <Mixxit> nothing
[22:34] <Rory> OK so it isn't running
[22:34] <Mixxit> (rory)
[22:34] <Rory> Mixxit: sudo service mysql start
[22:34] <Mixxit> returns no output rory
[22:35] <GreatBacon> Mixxit: what is your output of which mysqld
[22:35] <Rory> Mixxit: What's the output of the command: whoami
[22:35] <Mixxit> which mysqld : /usr/sbin/mysqld
[22:35] <Mixxit> whoami : mike
[22:36] <Rory> Mixxit: What about "sudo /etc/init.d/mysql status"
[22:36] <Mixxit> output for 'sudo service --status-all | more ' http://pastebin.com/eh7e8Kix
[22:37] <jrib> Rory, Mixxit: I have no context as I haven't read scrollback but if something seems really odd, consider if apparmor is enabled
[22:37] <Mixxit> output for sudo /etc/init.d/mysql status - http://pastebin.com/
[22:37] <Rory> Mixxit: try again
[22:37] <jrib> Mixxit: nice websiet
[22:37] <Mixxit> http://pastebin.com/5eGt16CK
[22:37] <Mixxit> lol sorry :-)
[22:38] <Rory> Perhaps your computer is haunted
[22:38] <jrib> have you guys checked logs?
[22:38] <Mixxit> they're empty
[22:38] <Mixxit> first thing i checked
[22:38] <jrib> Mixxit: what are you checking exactly?
[22:38] <Mixxit> /var/log/mysql.err and /var/log/mysql.log
[22:38] <Mixxit> i dont get why i can just type mysqld though and it starts
[22:38] <Rory> Mixxit: sudo apt-get install --reinstall mysql-server
[22:39] <Mixxit> been there but ok :-)
[22:39] <Rory> Mixxit: Can you pastebin the output?
[22:39] <jrib> Mixxit: you never answered me about apparmor
[22:39] <Mixxit> output:  -
[22:39] <Mixxit> http://pastebin.com/jtwj1x3X
[22:39] <Mixxit> whats apparmor? ;-)
[22:39] <Dr_Willis> !apparmour
[22:39] <Dr_Willis> !apparmor
[22:40] <Dr_Willis> a security thang. ;)
[22:40] <Mixxit> mike@vmd3176:/var/log$ sudo apparmor_status
[22:40] <Mixxit> sudo: apparmor_status: command not found
[22:40] <Mixxit> guess its not installed
[22:40] <jrib> Mixxit: erm.  What os are you using?
[22:40] <Mixxit> ubuntu
[22:40] <Rory> Mixxit: cat /etc/issue
[22:40] <jrib> Mixxit: what version and how was it installed?
[22:40] <Mixxit> deb http://de.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ raring main restricted universe multiverse
[22:41] <Mixxit> is my sources.list
[22:41] <Mixxit> im not sure the provider set it up
[22:41] <Rory> Mixxit: What is the output of "cat /etc/issue"
[22:41] <jrib> one of those...
[22:41] <GreatBacon> ^
[22:41] <Mixxit> Ubuntu 13.04 \n \l
[22:42] <jrib> Mixxit: pastebin your /etc/init/mysql.conf
[22:42] <Rory> Mixxit: Can you pastebin the contents of the file: /etc/init.d/mysql
[22:42] <Rory> Mixxit: do jrib's first
[22:42] <Mixxit> rightio
[22:42] <Mixxit> http://pastebin.com/4UJUBGfn
[22:43] <Mixxit> the init.d/mysql i had no clue
[22:43] <Mixxit> http://pastebin.com/a6Xgr0Cf
[22:44] <Mixxit> sorry i had to paste that in sections i think i got it all
[22:45] <Rory> !pastebinit | Mixxit in future
[22:45] <Mixxit> wow
[22:45] <Mixxit> thats neat!
[22:45] <Rory> Very
[22:45] <GreatBacon> Mixxit: it has an apparmor profile, /lib/init/apparmor-profile-load
[22:45] <GreatBacon> didn't you say apparmor isn't running?
[22:45] <Mixxit> aye
[22:45] <GreatBacon> re-install without the profile
[22:46] <Mixxit> how do i do that?
[22:46] <Mixxit> i've never heard of apparmor before
[22:46] <jrib> Mixxit: it's like selinux
[22:46] <Mixxit> who with the what now
[22:47] <jrib> Mixxit: did mysql ever work for you?  (using the init script)
[22:47] <Mixxit> no
[22:47] <Mixxit> it did work when i typed mysqld though
[22:47] <jrib> Mixxit: do you have /lib/init/apparmor-profile-load?
[22:48] <Mixxit> aye
[22:48] <jrib> Mixxit: i still find it odd that your logs are empty.  Did you mess with mysql's config at all?
[22:49] <Mixxit> i did change it to port 3307
[22:49] <Mixxit> but its set back now
[22:49] <Mixxit> 'mysqld' started fine though with 3307
[22:49] <jrib> Mixxit: for fun, comment the apparmor line and see what happens
[22:49] <Mixxit> where is that
[22:50] <jrib> Mixxit: in /etc/init/mysql.conf
[22:50] <Mixxit> oh the pre-start
[22:50] <Mixxit> jut that line yeah?
[22:50] <jrib> Mixxit: aye
[22:50] <Mixxit> rightio
[22:50] <jrib> Mixxit: it will at least rule out apparmor
[22:50] <GreatBacon> Mixxit: http://pastebin.com/4UJUBGfn line 22
[22:50] <jrib> i think
[22:50] <jrib> maybe not
[22:50] <Mixxit> no output on service mysql start
[22:51] <Mixxit> nope :(
[22:51] <Mixxit> sadly
[22:51] <jrib> Mixxit: how are you checknig?
[22:52] <Mixxit> im doing service mysql status
[22:52] <Mixxit> also trying mysql to connect to it
[22:52] <jrib> Mixxit: what's in your /etc/mysql?
[22:53] <Mixxit> http://pastebin.com/TmDxTx4R
[22:53] <GreatBacon> Mixxit: just for kicks, can you tell me if the output of 'sudo service apparmor reload' contains a reference to mysql?
[22:53] <Mixxit> apparmor: unrecognized service
[22:53] <GreatBacon> Yeah, I'd re-install mysql without the apparmor profile
[22:54] <Mixxit> how?
[22:56] <jrib> Mixxit: what's your /etc/mysql/my.cnf look like?
[22:57] <Mixxit> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6207103/
[22:58] <Mixxit> yay pastebinit worked
[23:04] <Mixxit> speak to provider?
[23:04] <Rory> It's looking like it
[23:04] <Mixxit> ok thanks guys!
[23:04] <Mixxit> aprpeciate the time and effort
[23:07] <sam113101> can I recover files on gedit?
[23:07] <sam113101> had a blackout
[23:07] <sam113101> pls guys
[23:08] <zohan> good mornng
[23:08] <zohan> good morning
[23:08] <zohan> :D
[23:09] <thewhat> everybody have a good night/day(it s night here),I hope to install Ubuntu in a few days,glad to see people are helpful
[23:09] <zohan> mmm
[23:10] <zohan> can u help me?
[23:10] <zohan> but it's about install nvidia on my ubuntu 12.04
[23:10] <zohan> somebody help me please
[23:10] <zohan> :(
[23:10] <swaagie> why is getting ubuntu installed on a raid 0 properly gpt partitioned disk such a pain in the ass, like getting uefi working is impossible, error ???
[23:10] <jrib> Mixxit: do you not have /var/log/mysql the directory?
[23:10] <jrib> Mixxit: what's in /etc/mysql/conf.d?
[23:11] <mikeandrd> How can I completely uninstall software?
[23:11] <jrib> mikeandrd: apt-get purge PACKAGE
[23:12] <zohan> mikeandrd using by synaptic manager package
[23:12] <zohan> it's gui and easier
[23:13] <mikeandrd> ok thanks
[23:13] <swaagie> anyone with experience on actually installing ubuntu in uefi/gpt?
[23:16] <schnitzl> is it possible to start some daemon (with upstart or rc.local or however) and give a certain user all rights to kill/restart/do whatever he wants with that daemon. that user has very few rights elsewhere.
[23:51] <alexa> how to add "paste shortcut" to right click menu?
[23:51] <alexa> (the way of creating links on desktop)
[23:52] <DerpyDooper> Guys Guys my kali linux installation is asking me if I want to install grub boot loader
[23:52] <DerpyDooper> If I do that, how can I install ubuntu on top of it?
[23:53] <DerpyDooper> Will installing ubuntu on top of it overwrite it?
[23:53] <DerpyDooper> ???
[23:53] <DerpyDooper> How do I make sure that doesn't happen?
[23:53] <k1l> yes, if you want
[23:53] <DerpyDooper> Or will ubuntu recognize that grub is there?
[23:53] <DerpyDooper> How exactly do I configure it to multiboot during the ubuntu install afterwards?
[23:53] <DerpyDooper> Without just having ubuntu overwrite it?
[23:53] <DerpyDooper> Or will Ubuntu automatically recognize it during the installation?
[23:54] <DerpyDooper> Do I have to make seperate partitions or will it do ti for me?
[23:54] <wilee-nilee> !patience | DerpyDooper
[23:54] <zykotic10> DerpyDooper: i'd recommend you let ubuntu overright grub, then run "sudo update-grub" after install finished, and you should then see both.  which ever grub you install last, will be in charge.
[23:54] <k1l> DerpyDooper: make seperate partitions
[23:54] <k1l> !dualboot | DerpyDooper
[23:54] <alexa> adding paste symbolic link to right click menu? anyone?
[23:55] <TheMischief> Hey
[23:55] <TheMischief> Bin neu hier
[23:56] <sealbhach> wilkommen
[23:56] <k1l> TheMischief: this is the english channel. the german support channel is in #ubuntu-de or the offtopic channel in #ubuntu-de-offtopic
[23:57] <alexa>  #ubuntu-de :D
[23:57] <Ari-Yang> !de
[23:57] <sealbhach> alexa: how often do you need to make symbolic links? Just do it from command line is my advice
[23:57] <alexa> sealbhach: ctrl + shift does the work :D
[23:58] <sealbhach> OK, as long as you're happy
[23:59] <alexa> I cant use letter + tab to get one's name. It goes alphabetically. How do I arrange it to first display the nickname of the person who last wrote in channel?
[23:59] <alexa> couldn't point to TheMischief, cause there are hundred of t**** nicks
[23:59] <alexa> any hint?