[00:22] <gdos> i would like to block certain users from using certain applications but not edit the menus, how can i do this? xchat for example.
[00:44] <holstein> gdos: http://askubuntu.com/questions/27456/block-access-to-specific-applications seems relevant.. the last one should work
[01:34] <gdos> but the problem is, holstein, is that root is owner to these programs, say xchat for example.
[01:34] <gdos> would i want to create a group called 'chat' and allow only members of that group (not group 'root' as it is now) to access that program ?
[01:36] <holstein> gdos: what i would do is just remove it from the menu.. i havent ever needed to do anything else
[01:36] <holstein> gdos: you should be able to make the permission of starting the application not possible for the user
[01:37] <holstein> gdos: there were some apps that were doing that, and im not sure where they are right now
[01:37] <gdos> where would i remove it from the default menu? i mean, where is the default menu located?
[01:39] <holstein> more options http://askubuntu.com/questions/28619/how-do-i-install-an-application-by-deb-file-for-a-single-user-only
[01:39] <holstein> gdos: i think this work for xubuntu menu editing http://wiki.xfce.org/howto/customize-menu
[01:40] <gdos> OK. Thanks. (i thought xubuntu differed slightly from 'official' xfce?)
[01:43] <Unit193> Also can use alacarte or menulibre.  Settings Manager has "Main Menu"
[01:44] <holstein> !info alacarte
[01:44] <holstein> cool :)
[01:44] <holstein> thats probably "easier"
[01:44] <Unit193> (That's "Main Menu")
[01:45] <holstein> gdos: ^
[01:46] <gdos> ah, gotcha. thanks ppl. :)
[02:18] <ball> I just reinstalled Xubuntu.
[02:21] <Unit193> I just updated 2 to saucy, only a little left. ;)
[02:22] <ball> Is that what will become 13.11?
[02:22] <cfhowlett> !saucy|ball,
[02:23] <ball> Thanks.
[02:23] <ball> I wasn't far off.
[02:23] <Unit193> Yep, close.
[02:40] <ball> I tried Ubuntu this evening but it seemed sort of broken.
[02:41] <ball> Perhaps I didn't give it a fair go but I disliked it enough to take the time to reinstall Xubuntu, so that says something.
[02:41]  * `Fibz` points ball to #xubuntu-offtopic
[02:42]  * ball shrugs
[02:42] <`Fibz`> i don't run 13.10 for the stability
[02:42]  * cfhowlett ... thinks "Obviously."
[02:45] <ball> `Fibz`: Do you run 13.04 instead?
[02:46] <`Fibz`> i run 12.04.3 when the machine needs to be reliable. 13.10 (or whatever is latest) on my laptop
[02:50] <amu> I can't wait for Ubuntu 13.10 release. Finally, I will install Ubuntu Touch on my Nexus but I'm not sure if it will work with xfce.
[02:51] <`Fibz`> xfce is not really appropriate for touch interfaces or TVs (in my opinion)
[02:51] <cfhowlett> !touch|amu,
[02:51] <amu> thanks
[02:54] <ball> Do we know how different 13.10 will be from 13.04, from a user's perspective?
[02:56] <cfhowlett> ball #ubuntu+1 for saucy discussion
[02:56] <cfhowlett> :P)
[02:56] <`Fibz`> each version is in it's own stage of broken.  XD
[02:56] <ball> Oh.
[03:02] <ball> I like 13.04, for whatever that's worth.
[03:04] <ball> Alright. Time to press some clothes for work tomorrow.
[03:04] <ball> Goodnight all.
[04:28] <xubuntu549> Hi everyone I have a quick question and i was wondering if anyone could help me
[04:29] <xubuntu549> It has to do with the installation of xubuntu from a flash drive
[04:29] <Myrtti> we'll be left wondering if you don't actually ask the question
[04:30] <Myrtti> since we aren't telepaths
[04:31] <cfhowlett> !details|xubuntu549,
[04:31] <`Fibz`> :)
[04:31] <xubuntu549> Sorry if this comes off as a stupid question. When installing xubuntu from a flash drive, is all I have to do is put the .iso file on the flash drive and boot it from the flash drive? I read articles about having to burn the iso file onto my flash drive and I'm not sure what that meant.
[04:32] <`Fibz`> use Linux Live USB Creator in Windows or unetbootin if your on linux  to create a bootable USB drive to install xubuntu
[04:33] <`Fibz`> http://www.linuxliveusb.com/    or in linux app ("start") menu -> terminal emulator -> type: sudo apt-get install unetbootin
[04:33] <cfhowlett> xubuntu549, not a stupid question at all.  you need to get that ISO onto the USB in a bootable format.  unetbootin and Linux Live USB creator will do that.
[04:34] <xubuntu549> Also, does even the newest xubuntu versions work on slower computers or do I have to downloaded older version of xubuntu. I know this question is very vague, as I do not know the exact specs of the computer i am trying to revive using xubuntu. I do know that it is old, probably made in 2006 with all default hardwares and processors.
[04:34] <xubuntu549> I really appreciate the help guys. I'm trying to teach myself more about linux and I'm very new to all of this. Thanks
[04:36] <`Fibz`> 12.04.3 is long term stable release supported through 2017.   13.xx has more updated apps than 12 but will not be supported as long
[04:36] <`Fibz`> support for 13.04 ends in january, 13.10 support ends in march
[04:38] <cfhowlett> xubuntu549, recommend you install 12.04 xubuntu or lubuntu.  both are optimized for older/lower spec machines
[04:39] <`Fibz`> ^
[04:39] <`Fibz`> awww
[04:48] <ryan_> Hi everyone! Rookie to all things linux so excuse me if I sounded incredibly inexperienced. I was looking to revive an old cpu of mine. I don't remember much about the specs but I do remeber that it has about 2GB of ram. Is this enough to run the last version of xubuntu, 13.04 Roaring Ringtail?
[04:48] <`Fibz`> yes
[04:48] <ryan_> Or will it be slow and laggy. Suggestions on what version of xubuntu I should run. I do know that xubuntu is made for older computers
[04:48] <`Fibz`> thats enough RAM
[04:49] <cfhowlett> ryan_, yes but
[04:49] <cfhowlett> ryan_, lubuntu or xubuntu are optimized for older/lower spec machines.
[04:50] <ryan_> Right. Whats the minimum RAM i could get away with to run xbuntu?
[04:50] <`Fibz`> 640
[04:50] <`Fibz`> MB
[04:50] <`Fibz`> it'll run on 512, but it'll be swapping the whole time (causing it to lag)
[04:51] <`Fibz`> xubuntu idles @ 384MB
[04:51] <ryan_> Also, can somebody explain persistence to me? I'm currently using linux live usb key and the max persistence i can use with my 1 GB flash drive is 40MB. What should I make my persistence?
[04:51] <cfhowlett> !persistence
[04:52] <`Fibz`> you dont need persisyence. persistnce is if you want to install programs onto the USB drive (you dont, you just want to use the drive to install xubuntu)
[04:53] <ryan_> I really appreciate the help you guys have given me today. Thank you and I hope to see you guys in this chat another time.
[04:53] <`Fibz`> i use persistence because i keep a xubuntu thumbdrive on my keychain for fixing broken computers. but if you just want to install xubuntu, there is no need for a persistence file or partition
[04:53] <ryan_> Got it! Thanks!
[06:26] <olbi> hello, I'm using Xubuntu 12.04 LTS and sometimes after login to desktop the trash icon dissappear, I have to manually change it in Preferences -> Desktop
[06:33] <Katsuma> Hi all
[06:33] <Katsuma> I can't get my wireless to work, it says it requires firmware
[06:33] <`Fibz`> go into a terminal and type lspci
[06:34] <`Fibz`> what kind of network controller is it?
[06:34] <Katsuma> 'Fibz' Broadcom
[06:34] <`Fibz`> b43?
[06:35] <`Fibz`> does the machine have internet acces right now?
[06:36] <`Fibz`> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx
[06:36] <Unit193> !b43
[06:37] <Katsuma> 'Fibz' it does, not sure if it works but it does
[06:39] <Katsuma> Not sure what I should be doing here
[06:45] <Katsuma_> Apparently it works out of the box, it doesn't
[06:45] <`Fibz`> not the b43
[06:46] <`Fibz`> very common card, known to be a problem child (in both windows and linux)
[06:46] <Katsuma_> Not sure what it is came with my Inspiron 1521
[06:47] <`Fibz`> that lspci command lists what you have
[06:47] <`Fibz`> lsusb if its USB wifi
[06:48] <Katsuma_> I have all the drivers just can't get the service to start after the build
[06:53] <Katsuma_> Which is annoying
[06:59] <well_laid_lawn> Katsuma_:  are you loading the module?
[06:59] <`Fibz`> did you installed the proprietary sta driver and the opensource driver? you only need one
[07:00] <`Fibz`> if you follow that guide, your wifi will work
[07:01] <Katsuma_> The module I can figure out how to load, I got it loaded then after a reboot it unloaded
[07:02] <Katsuma_> *can't
[07:03] <well_laid_lawn> you should add an entry in /etc/modprobe.conf
[07:04] <Katsuma_> Access is denied
[07:05] <well_laid_lawn> you need sudo/gksudo to edit system files
[07:05] <well_laid_lawn> !gksudo
[07:56] <JZA> hi I got a question, I install xubuntu on a 4GB drive, but when I df I only got 1.5GB
[07:56] <JZA> why I cant get the full size of my drive?
[07:58] <JZA> anyone here?
[08:02] <JZA> anyone
[08:20] <well_laid_lawn> JZA:  try   df -h
[08:27] <JZA> well_laid_lawn: here it is http://put.io/v2/files/124762555/stream?token=ed0ec67499b411e2875700237d9c6b49
[08:27] <JZA> well_laid_lawn: oops wrong link
[08:27] <JZA> http://pastebin.mozilla.org/3209894
[08:30] <well_laid_lawn> it's a qcow file? they expand as necessary
[08:30] <well_laid_lawn> using qemu or ?
[08:30] <JZA> well I get a lot of out of space notice.
[08:30] <JZA> I am on a liveUSB
[08:31] <JZA> with 4GB of space
[08:33] <bibi_> anybody know  why  my xubuntu 13.04 not see nvidia driver?! i try all sugestion on ubuntu website and i reinstall 6 times xubuntu,i have asus laptop,help me please
[08:33] <well_laid_lawn> JZA:  unless there is something else on the usb I dunno
[08:34] <JZA> http://imagebin.org/272991
[08:34] <JZA> you can see the gparted empty space
[08:35] <well_laid_lawn> so all the partition is used up... you can resize it in gparted
[08:35] <elfy> JZA: did you actually install to the usb with persistence - if it's just a live image then that looks right to me
[08:36] <JZA> well_laid_lawn: you can see gparted showing the 2GB further
[08:37] <JZA> elfy: I see, so I need to resize
[08:37] <elfy> !persistence
[08:37] <elfy> JZA: if all you've done is got the image on the usb - that is not the same as an install
[08:42] <JZA> elfy: so if I release the persistancy the size will auto-resize?
[08:44] <elfy> not what I'm saying - you've said 2 things that are contradictory " I install xubuntu on a 4GB drive" " I am on a liveUSB"
[08:47] <xubuntu933> HELLO!
[08:48] <bibi_> anybody know  why  my xubuntu 13.04 not see nvidia driver?! i try all sugestion on ubuntu website and i reinstall 6 times xubuntu,i have asus laptop,help me please
[08:48] <JZA> elfy: ok I am using a 4GB liveCD but can only access 1.5G of it
[08:49] <JZA> elfy: how can I access the rest of the memory
[08:51] <well_laid_lawn> the point is, with a live cd you should not need to acces for disk space
[08:51] <well_laid_lawn> what are you trying to do?
[08:52] <JZA> well_laid_lawn: apparently I do need to
[08:52] <well_laid_lawn> s/for/more/
[08:52] <well_laid_lawn> did you md5 the iso?
[08:52] <well_laid_lawn> !md5
[08:54] <JZA> well_laid_lawn: was that meant for me?
[08:55] <elfy> JZA: what exactly is it you are trying to do? install to the usb and have the whole space available?
[08:56] <elfy> if so you need to actually install TO the usb I believe
[08:56] <JZA> elfy: is there a way to just access it from a running instance?
[09:01] <elfy> apparently you have problems doing that - I've never done so myself, if I was going to do so I'd look here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCD/Persistence#Setting_Up_Your_USB_Stick
[09:27] <xubuntu290> i need little help with  nvidia  ,ii have an Asus laptop and i try anything ,is not working ,can you help me please?
[09:30] <well_laid_lawn> xubuntu290:  which nvidia card ?
[09:32] <xubuntu290> in xubuntu 13.04 ,i dont know the video card name,how can i see the card?
[09:33] <well_laid_lawn> in a terminal do   lspci | grep -i vga
[09:33] <xubuntu290> 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] 771/671 PCIE VGA Display Adapter (rev 10)
[09:34] <well_laid_lawn> it's a sis card not nvidia
[09:34] <well_laid_lawn> which explains why the nvidia install kept failing
[09:34] <well_laid_lawn> !sis
[09:35] <xubuntu290> and how i install this card
[09:36] <well_laid_lawn> it should have been recognised automagically
[09:36] <well_laid_lawn> you can check the log at /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[11:50] <lampelina> hi guys, any quick tip how to add "more detailed view" to nautilus or thunar @xubuntu 13.04?
[11:50] <lampelina> I looked few tutorials for nautilus, but it just didn't worked
[11:51] <koegs> what is meant by "more detailed view"?
[11:51] <lampelina> i need to see resolution of photos
[11:51] <lampelina> just that
[11:51] <lampelina> from file manager
[11:55] <koegs> thunar does not support that, nautilus has "nautilus-columns"-ppa
[11:57] <lampelina> yes, I figured out, but the script for nautilus doesn't work and I saw that many people have this issue in newer versions of ubuntu/xubuntu
[11:59] <koegs> lampelina: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2147706
[12:01] <lampelina> saw this, but haven't seen the fix
[12:01] <lampelina> thanx
[12:09] <lampelina> ok, now I get some extra list options, but after that nautilus is chrashing
[12:13] <xubuntu041> sorry for my bad english, i am from greece. I have Linux Xubuntu 13.04 and i want to see my system informations for example, what prossecor or ram or HDD or graphic card i have. So how i can see them?
[12:13] <cfhowlett> !sensors
[12:14] <Myrtti> xubuntu041: open a terminal, type in "sudo lshw", enter your password, enjoy
[12:16] <xubuntu041> thanks a lot have a nice day
[13:56] <RemuN> I just hooked up a new monitor, with DVI connection instead of the old VGA monitor, and now Xubuntu shows black screen.. How do I fix this? (fglrx)
[15:11] <cson> Is it possible to adjust contrast on xubuntu?
[15:18] <GridCube> i don't know, but i do know that you can always run xgamma
[15:43] <cson> gridcube: thanks.. I was hoping I wouldn't have to use xgamma since it's deprecated.
[15:43] <GridCube> cson, :(
[15:43] <GridCube> yes i understand
[15:44] <c2tarun> can anyone please tell me where is java installed if installed via webupd8 ppa?
[15:45] <GridCube> c2tarun, type, whereis java
[15:46] <c2tarun> GridCube, actually I am looking for jdk folder with java source jars so that I can attach them to eclipse
[15:46] <GridCube> c2tarun, have you typed whereis?
[15:47] <c2tarun> GridCube, http://kickass.to/pink-pink-raise-your-glass-2010-t4777224.html
[15:47] <c2tarun> ohh sorry
[15:47] <c2tarun> java: /usr/bin/java /usr/bin/X11/java /usr/share/java /usr/share/man/man1/java.1.gz
[15:47] <c2tarun> I got this
[15:47] <GridCube> those are the folders then
[15:47] <c2tarun> but all are java executables
[15:47] <GridCube> in share too?
[15:47] <c2tarun> GridCube, nope these are executables
[15:48] <c2tarun> GridCube, in share its folder but no jdk. http://paste.ubuntu.com/6205468/
[15:49] <GridCube> locate *jdk*
[15:52] <c2tarun> GridCube, found it : /usr/lib/jvm/java-7-oracle/src.zip
[15:52] <c2tarun> thanks a lot :)
[16:08] <RemuN> I just hooked up a new monitor, with DVI connection instead of the old VGA monitor, and now Xubuntu shows black screen.. How do I fix this? (fglrx)
[16:09] <GridCube> RemuN, can you access you computer someway?
[16:10] <RemuN> My debian boot works fine, thats what Im on now
[16:10] <GridCube> RemuN, if you can access the /etc/X11 directory of your xubuntu install, try renaming the xorg.conf file and rebooting
[16:11] <GridCube> the xorg server should auto configure to the available output
[16:11] <RemuN> renaming? you mean add .backup or something? Or changing its contents?
[16:12] <GridCube> the file name yes, like xorg.conf.old or something like that
[16:12] <RemuN> ok ill try that
[16:17] <RemuN> GridCube, didn't work
[16:17] <RemuN> any other suggestions?
[16:18] <holstein> RemuN: what hardware is this? for my nvidia with vga and dvi im using i had to have the proprietary driver to make that work
[16:18] <RemuN> amd HD 5670
[16:18] <RemuN> propietary drivers are in use
[16:20] <holstein> i would try other ones.. and keep in mind, it might just not be possible to use both.. is that the goal? dual head?
[16:20] <RemuN> but Im using DVI only now, I was using vga before
[16:20] <holstein> or, just switching to DVI from VGA?
[16:20] <RemuN> yep
[16:21] <holstein> what happened when you blew out the xorg? can you get to anything? is it just black? nothing?
[16:21] <RemuN> I have dual head on CrunchBang, and here it recogized it immediately, even adjusted the resolution
[16:21] <RemuN> nothing, just black, like before
[16:21] <holstein> RemuN: here? what do you mean by "here"? on the same hardware in #!?
[16:21] <RemuN> yeah, dual boot
[16:22] <holstein> RemuN: what graphics driver are you using there? #! is based on wheezy.. is this xubuntu 13.04?
[16:22] <RemuN> no 12.04
[16:23] <RemuN> #! uses the newest drivers from the site, Xubuntu uses older ones (there were some issues with steam with the newest)
[16:23] <holstein> RemuN: what would i do? plug the vga back in.. remove the proprietary driver, and get the system back to as default as possible.. and plug the DVI in
[16:23] <holstein> RemuN: you can always add the ppa's for "newer" versions of the graphics drivers if you need
[16:24] <RemuN> and install drivers again after it sees the dvi?
[16:24] <holstein> steam has one that they suggest
[16:24] <RemuN> Im using the one steam suggested
[16:24] <holstein> RemuN: *if* "it" sees it
[16:24] <RemuN> yea ok
[16:24] <holstein> RemuN: try using the one from the repos as well. thats the one ubuntu/xubuntu will be officially supporting
[16:26] <RemuN> Yeah I will, the one steam suggested is from the repos
[16:26] <RemuN> ok thanks mate, ill figure something out
[16:26] <holstein> RemuN: good luck
[16:33] <RemuN> Wait, I just remembered, I use a script for lightdm which changed to the right resolution from the old monitor
[16:34] <RemuN> It puts CRT2 as primary monitor, and turns off DFP1 (my tv)
[17:44] <m3kk> Im running liveUSB of xubuntu..how come its faster then my Mint installation with xfce lol?
[17:44] <m3kk> Makes no sense at all
[17:48] <holstein> m3kk: probably just what you have done, or how you have configured mint.. or, the different base version supports the hardware "better"
[17:55] <m3kk> holstein, ok thanks for the answer
[19:22] <RandallRO> Hi! i have a problem with my xubuntu, can anyone help? D:
[19:22] <RandallRO> Hi! i have a problem with my xubuntu, can anyone help? D:
[19:23] <elfy> !ask | RandallRO
[19:23] <RandallRO> oh oks thanks and sorry x3 this is the problem
[19:23] <RandallRO> “alias android-disconnect=”fusermount -u /media/XperiaMiniPro” “alias: no se encontró la orden “alias android-disconnect=”fusermount -u /media/XperiaMiniPro”
[19:24] <RandallRO> i try to conect my xperia mini pro but well i have a problem with this tutorial  http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/12/how-to-connect-your-android-ice-cream-sandwich-phone-to-ubuntu-for-file-access
[19:25] <bazhang> !info gmtp
[19:26] <holstein> RandallRO: there are also lots of other ways to connect.. have you tried something like airdroid? i literally plug a cable into my machine and android phone and select "mass storage device" and it just works
[19:26] <bazhang> that does it for my nexus 7 android
[19:27] <RandallRO> yeah i now but my system is not the original android is cyanogemod so does't work for cyanogemod
[19:27] <holstein> RandallRO: the connection with USB works for my CM phones
[19:28] <remun> holstein, removing the bash script for lightdm fixed the monitor issue, now it automatically detects the new one and changes resolution accordingly
[19:28] <holstein> remun: cheers
[19:29] <remun> just thought Id let you know, thanks again
[19:30] <RandallRO> how i can remove the bash script? and holstein how you do to connect your phone?
[19:31] <holstein> RandallRO: that bash script comment is not for you.. i literally plug my CM phone into the computer
[19:31] <holstein> RandallRO: have you mounted and accessed other USB media from ubuntu/xubuntu/linux?
[19:33] <RandallRO> oh sorry, and yeah other USB media work in my xubuntu
[19:35] <holstein> RandallRO: i plug in the device, the device asks "use as mass storage" and i select that
[19:35] <holstein> RandallRO: i also use airdroid, and other ssh or ftp or samba server/client options
[19:37] <RandallRO> Holstein: oks i will try FTP client, and i don't know why in my cm only have mtp and ptp to conect to the computer and don't have "use as mass sotrage" :/
[19:39] <holstein> RandallRO: i dont have "mtp and ptp".. i have charge only and storage
[19:40] <holstein> RandallRO: you should be able to drill into the menu and see how it is set.. you should look into cm support forums
[19:41] <RandallRO> Holstein: oh well thanks i will check this :D thanks and so mmm how i can remove this mensage to the terminal?“alias: no se encontró la orden “alias android-disconnect=”fusermount -u /media/XperiaMiniPro” “alias: no se encontró la orden “alias android-disconnect=”fusermount -u /media/XperiaMiniPro”
[19:43] <holstein> RandallRO: i think you might be overthinking this process a bit.. it literally automatically happens. seeing messages like that makes me think the drive is trying to mount, and maybe you have tried to edit options
[19:43] <holstein> RandallRO: what would i do? run a live CD, and plug the phone in.. test there
[19:45] <RandallRO> Holstein: oks thanks :)
[20:48] <Peyam> hi
[20:48] <Peyam> the last update skrevd my system
[20:48] <Peyam> it skreve the " Dekstop" in the setting manager
[20:48] <Peyam> and the key "S" dfoenst work
[20:48] <Peyam> please change it
[20:49] <Peyam> I have lots of programming to do
[20:49] <knome> Peyam, have you filed bugs? and what update are you talking about?
[20:49] <Peyam> why should I?
[20:49] <Peyam> why do you even release unneccesary updates?
[20:49] <Peyam> pleas
[20:49] <Peyam> e
[20:50] <Peyam> I dont have a account on whatsitsname
[20:50] <Peyam> lunchpad
[20:50] <knome> Peyam, you don't have to update. and please watch your language+attitude.
[20:50] <Peyam> knome: I dont have a attutide??? Im totally cool
[20:50] <Peyam> yes I dont have to. but I want I want to be able to choose what update I wana do
[20:51] <Peyam> knome: how do I remove the last update?
[20:51] <Peyam> I totally distroyed the Desktop menu. I cant have dual walpaper anymore
[20:52] <knome> Peyam, first of all, you haven't told what version of xubuntu you are using
[20:53] <Peyam> the latest one. Im here everyday. how couldnt you remember me. 13.04
[20:53] <Peyam> the latest update was about 2.2 Mb
[20:56] <Peyam> knome: so?
[20:56] <knome> !patience | Peyam
[20:57] <Peyam> okej
[20:59] <Peyam> knome: it updated something with xfce
[21:04] <Peyam> knome: the desktop changed from https://www.google.se/search?q=desktop+xubuntu&client=firefox-a&hs=dWJ&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=tCFTUuHAGYnc4QT77YHoCQ&ved=0CAkQ_AUoAQ&biw=1280&bih=904&dpr=1#q=desktop+xubuntu+13.04+setting+manager&rls=org.mozilla:en-US%3Aofficial&tbm=isch&facrc=_&imgdii=_&imgrc=MQTzSoHtsQPzoM%3A%3BDGOWks3KjBzaJM%3Bhttps%253A%252F%252Flh3.googleusercontent.com%252F-oFQGHVNi1tI%252FUX
[21:05] <knome> Peyam, please.
[21:05] <knome> Peyam, you don't have to direct messages to me.
[21:05] <Peyam> knome: are you going to help me?
[21:05] <knome> no, at least not at this point, i'm busy doing something else.
[21:06] <Peyam> ähh
[21:06] <Peyam> do you know how to remove the latest update?
[21:07] <Peyam> got it
[21:07] <Peyam> gotta test it now
[21:14] <Peyam> knome: I found the latet update
[21:15] <Peyam> it haintalled xfce4 4.11
[21:15] <Peyam> how do I get 4.10?
[21:33] <Peyam> knome: the rouce of update from 12.-10
[21:33] <Peyam> do you know the adre
[21:33] <Peyam> ss
[21:33] <Peyam> resource
[21:33] <knome> Peyam, please stop directing messages at me.
[22:09] <inma> Hola, alguien me podría ayudar que acabo de instalar xubuntu 12.10 en mi pc y soy novata en GNU/Linux y el problema que tengo es que no se me apaga el pc
[22:09] <knome> !es | inma
[22:10] <inma> Gracias
[22:53] <xubuntu332> Hello, the application shortcuts are not working on xubuntu 13.04. I am running a lenovo t430u