[00:22] <gdos> i would like to block certain users from using certain applications but not edit the menus, how can i do this? xchat for example.
[00:44] <holstein> gdos: http://askubuntu.com/questions/27456/block-access-to-specific-applications seems relevant.. the last one should work
[01:34] <gdos> but the problem is, holstein, is that root is owner to these programs, say xchat for example.
[01:34] <gdos> would i want to create a group called 'chat' and allow only members of that group (not group 'root' as it is now) to access that program ?
[01:36] <holstein> gdos: what i would do is just remove it from the menu.. i havent ever needed to do anything else
[01:36] <holstein> gdos: you should be able to make the permission of starting the application not possible for the user
[01:37] <holstein> gdos: there were some apps that were doing that, and im not sure where they are right now
[01:37] <gdos> where would i remove it from the default menu? i mean, where is the default menu located?
[01:39] <holstein> more options http://askubuntu.com/questions/28619/how-do-i-install-an-application-by-deb-file-for-a-single-user-only
[01:39] <holstein> gdos: i think this work for xubuntu menu editing http://wiki.xfce.org/howto/customize-menu
[01:40] <gdos> OK. Thanks. (i thought xubuntu differed slightly from 'official' xfce?)
[01:43] <Unit193> Also can use alacarte or menulibre.  Settings Manager has "Main Menu"
[01:44] <holstein> !info alacarte
[01:44] <ubottu> alacarte (source: alacarte): easy GNOME menu editing tool. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.6.1-0ubuntu3 (raring), package size 77 kB, installed size 1135 kB
[01:44] <holstein> cool :)
[01:44] <holstein> thats probably "easier"
[01:44] <Unit193> (That's "Main Menu")
[01:45] <holstein> gdos: ^
[01:46] <gdos> ah, gotcha. thanks ppl. :)
[02:18] <ball> I just reinstalled Xubuntu.
[02:21] <Unit193> I just updated 2 to saucy, only a little left. ;)
[02:22] <ball> Is that what will become 13.11?
[02:22] <cfhowlett> !saucy|ball,
[02:22] <ubottu> ball,: Ubuntu 13.10 (Saucy Salamander) will be the 19th release of Ubuntu. Announcement: http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/1252 - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1. Release date will be 17th October 2013.
[02:23] <ball> Thanks.
[02:23] <ball> I wasn't far off.
[02:23] <Unit193> Yep, close.
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[02:40] <ball> I tried Ubuntu this evening but it seemed sort of broken.
[02:41] <ball> Perhaps I didn't give it a fair go but I disliked it enough to take the time to reinstall Xubuntu, so that says something.
[02:41]  * `Fibz` points ball to #xubuntu-offtopic
[02:42]  * ball shrugs
[02:42] <`Fibz`> i don't run 13.10 for the stability
[02:42]  * cfhowlett ... thinks "Obviously."
[02:45] <ball> `Fibz`: Do you run 13.04 instead?
[02:46] <`Fibz`> i run 12.04.3 when the machine needs to be reliable. 13.10 (or whatever is latest) on my laptop
[02:50] <amu> I can't wait for Ubuntu 13.10 release. Finally, I will install Ubuntu Touch on my Nexus but I'm not sure if it will work with xfce.
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[02:51] <`Fibz`> xfce is not really appropriate for touch interfaces or TVs (in my opinion)
[02:51] <cfhowlett> !touch|amu,
[02:51] <ubottu> amu,: Information about the Ubuntu Touch platform for Phone and Tablet is available here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch support and discussion in #ubuntu-touch
[02:51] <amu> thanks
[02:54] <ball> Do we know how different 13.10 will be from 13.04, from a user's perspective?
[02:56] <cfhowlett> ball #ubuntu+1 for saucy discussion
[02:56] <cfhowlett> :P)
[02:56] <`Fibz`> each version is in it's own stage of broken.  XD
[02:56] <ball> Oh.
[03:02] <ball> I like 13.04, for whatever that's worth.
[03:04] <ball> Alright. Time to press some clothes for work tomorrow.
[03:04] <ball> Goodnight all.
[04:28] <xubuntu549> Hi everyone I have a quick question and i was wondering if anyone could help me
[04:29] <xubuntu549> It has to do with the installation of xubuntu from a flash drive
[04:29] <Myrtti> we'll be left wondering if you don't actually ask the question
[04:30] <Myrtti> since we aren't telepaths
[04:31] <cfhowlett> !details|xubuntu549,
[04:31] <ubottu> xubuntu549,: Please give us full details. For example: "I have a problem with ..., I'm running Ubuntu version .... When I try to do ..., I get the following output: ..., but I expected it to do ..."
[04:31] <`Fibz`> :)
[04:31] <xubuntu549> Sorry if this comes off as a stupid question. When installing xubuntu from a flash drive, is all I have to do is put the .iso file on the flash drive and boot it from the flash drive? I read articles about having to burn the iso file onto my flash drive and I'm not sure what that meant.
[04:32] <`Fibz`> use Linux Live USB Creator in Windows or unetbootin if your on linux  to create a bootable USB drive to install xubuntu
[04:33] <`Fibz`> http://www.linuxliveusb.com/    or in linux app ("start") menu -> terminal emulator -> type: sudo apt-get install unetbootin
[04:33] <cfhowlett> xubuntu549, not a stupid question at all.  you need to get that ISO onto the USB in a bootable format.  unetbootin and Linux Live USB creator will do that.
[04:34] <xubuntu549> Also, does even the newest xubuntu versions work on slower computers or do I have to downloaded older version of xubuntu. I know this question is very vague, as I do not know the exact specs of the computer i am trying to revive using xubuntu. I do know that it is old, probably made in 2006 with all default hardwares and processors.
[04:34] <xubuntu549> I really appreciate the help guys. I'm trying to teach myself more about linux and I'm very new to all of this. Thanks
[04:36] <`Fibz`> 12.04.3 is long term stable release supported through 2017.   13.xx has more updated apps than 12 but will not be supported as long
[04:36] <`Fibz`> support for 13.04 ends in january, 13.10 support ends in march
[04:38] <cfhowlett> xubuntu549, recommend you install 12.04 xubuntu or lubuntu.  both are optimized for older/lower spec machines
[04:39] <`Fibz`> ^
[04:39] <`Fibz`> awww
[04:48] <ryan_> Hi everyone! Rookie to all things linux so excuse me if I sounded incredibly inexperienced. I was looking to revive an old cpu of mine. I don't remember much about the specs but I do remeber that it has about 2GB of ram. Is this enough to run the last version of xubuntu, 13.04 Roaring Ringtail?
[04:48] <`Fibz`> yes
[04:48] <ryan_> Or will it be slow and laggy. Suggestions on what version of xubuntu I should run. I do know that xubuntu is made for older computers
[04:48] <`Fibz`> thats enough RAM
[04:49] <cfhowlett> ryan_, yes but
[04:49] <cfhowlett> ryan_, lubuntu or xubuntu are optimized for older/lower spec machines.
[04:50] <ryan_> Right. Whats the minimum RAM i could get away with to run xbuntu?
[04:50] <`Fibz`> 640
[04:50] <`Fibz`> MB
[04:50] <`Fibz`> it'll run on 512, but it'll be swapping the whole time (causing it to lag)
[04:51] <`Fibz`> xubuntu idles @ 384MB
[04:51] <ryan_> Also, can somebody explain persistence to me? I'm currently using linux live usb key and the max persistence i can use with my 1 GB flash drive is 40MB. What should I make my persistence?
[04:51] <cfhowlett> !persistence
[04:51] <ubottu> To have some persistent storage when using a Live CD, follow the instructions on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDPersistence
[04:52] <`Fibz`> you dont need persisyence. persistnce is if you want to install programs onto the USB drive (you dont, you just want to use the drive to install xubuntu)
[04:53] <ryan_> I really appreciate the help you guys have given me today. Thank you and I hope to see you guys in this chat another time.
[04:53] <`Fibz`> i use persistence because i keep a xubuntu thumbdrive on my keychain for fixing broken computers. but if you just want to install xubuntu, there is no need for a persistence file or partition
[04:53] <ryan_> Got it! Thanks!
[06:26] <olbi> hello, I'm using Xubuntu 12.04 LTS and sometimes after login to desktop the trash icon dissappear, I have to manually change it in Preferences -> Desktop
[06:33] <Katsuma> Hi all
[06:33] <Katsuma> I can't get my wireless to work, it says it requires firmware
[06:33] <`Fibz`> go into a terminal and type lspci
[06:34] <`Fibz`> what kind of network controller is it?
[06:34] <Katsuma> 'Fibz' Broadcom
[06:34] <`Fibz`> b43?
[06:35] <`Fibz`> does the machine have internet acces right now?
[06:36] <`Fibz`> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx
[06:36] <Unit193> !b43
[06:36] <ubottu> Help with Broadcom bcm43xx can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx
[06:37] <Katsuma> 'Fibz' it does, not sure if it works but it does
[06:39] <Katsuma> Not sure what I should be doing here
[06:45] <Katsuma_> Apparently it works out of the box, it doesn't
[06:45] <`Fibz`> not the b43
[06:46] <`Fibz`> very common card, known to be a problem child (in both windows and linux)
[06:46] <Katsuma_> Not sure what it is came with my Inspiron 1521
[06:47] <`Fibz`> that lspci command lists what you have
[06:47] <`Fibz`> lsusb if its USB wifi
[06:48] <Katsuma_> I have all the drivers just can't get the service to start after the build
[06:53] <Katsuma_> Which is annoying
[06:59] <well_laid_lawn> Katsuma_:  are you loading the module?
[06:59] <`Fibz`> did you installed the proprietary sta driver and the opensource driver? you only need one
[07:00] <`Fibz`> if you follow that guide, your wifi will work
[07:01] <Katsuma_> The module I can figure out how to load, I got it loaded then after a reboot it unloaded
[07:02] <Katsuma_> *can't
[07:03] <well_laid_lawn> you should add an entry in /etc/modprobe.conf
[07:04] <Katsuma_> Access is denied
[07:05] <well_laid_lawn> you need sudo/gksudo to edit system files
[07:05] <well_laid_lawn> !gksudo
[07:05] <ubottu> If you need to run graphical applications as root, use « gksudo », as it will set up the environment more appropriately. Never just use "sudo"! (See http://psychocats.net/ubuntu/graphicalsudo to know why)
[07:56] <JZA> hi I got a question, I install xubuntu on a 4GB drive, but when I df I only got 1.5GB
[07:56] <JZA> why I cant get the full size of my drive?
[07:58] <JZA> anyone here?
[08:02] <JZA> anyone
[08:20] <well_laid_lawn> JZA:  try   df -h
[08:27] <JZA> well_laid_lawn: here it is http://put.io/v2/files/124762555/stream?token=ed0ec67499b411e2875700237d9c6b49
[08:27] <JZA> well_laid_lawn: oops wrong link
[08:27] <JZA> http://pastebin.mozilla.org/3209894
[08:30] <well_laid_lawn> it's a qcow file? they expand as necessary
[08:30] <well_laid_lawn> using qemu or ?
[08:30] <JZA> well I get a lot of out of space notice.
[08:30] <JZA> I am on a liveUSB
[08:31] <JZA> with 4GB of space
[08:33] <bibi_> anybody know  why  my xubuntu 13.04 not see nvidia driver?! i try all sugestion on ubuntu website and i reinstall 6 times xubuntu,i have asus laptop,help me please
[08:33] <well_laid_lawn> JZA:  unless there is something else on the usb I dunno
[08:34] <JZA> http://imagebin.org/272991
[08:34] <JZA> you can see the gparted empty space
[08:35] <well_laid_lawn> so all the partition is used up... you can resize it in gparted
[08:35] <elfy> JZA: did you actually install to the usb with persistence - if it's just a live image then that looks right to me
[08:36] <JZA> well_laid_lawn: you can see gparted showing the 2GB further
[08:37] <JZA> elfy: I see, so I need to resize
[08:37] <elfy> !persistence
[08:37] <ubottu> To have some persistent storage when using a Live CD, follow the instructions on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDPersistence
[08:37] <elfy> JZA: if all you've done is got the image on the usb - that is not the same as an install
[08:42] <JZA> elfy: so if I release the persistancy the size will auto-resize?
[08:44] <elfy> not what I'm saying - you've said 2 things that are contradictory " I install xubuntu on a 4GB drive" " I am on a liveUSB"
[08:47] <xubuntu933> HELLO!
[08:48] <bibi_> anybody know  why  my xubuntu 13.04 not see nvidia driver?! i try all sugestion on ubuntu website and i reinstall 6 times xubuntu,i have asus laptop,help me please
[08:48] <JZA> elfy: ok I am using a 4GB liveCD but can only access 1.5G of it
[08:49] <JZA> elfy: how can I access the rest of the memory
[08:51] <well_laid_lawn> the point is, with a live cd you should not need to acces for disk space
[08:51] <well_laid_lawn> what are you trying to do?
[08:52] <JZA> well_laid_lawn: apparently I do need to
[08:52] <well_laid_lawn> s/for/more/
[08:52] <well_laid_lawn> did you md5 the iso?
[08:52] <well_laid_lawn> !md5
[08:52] <ubottu> To verify your Ubuntu ISO image (or other files for which an MD5 checksum is provided), see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows
[08:54] <JZA> well_laid_lawn: was that meant for me?
[08:55] <elfy> JZA: what exactly is it you are trying to do? install to the usb and have the whole space available?
[08:56] <elfy> if so you need to actually install TO the usb I believe
[08:56] <JZA> elfy: is there a way to just access it from a running instance?
[09:01] <elfy> apparently you have problems doing that - I've never done so myself, if I was going to do so I'd look here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCD/Persistence#Setting_Up_Your_USB_Stick
[09:27] <xubuntu290> i need little help with  nvidia  ,ii have an Asus laptop and i try anything ,is not working ,can you help me please?
[09:30] <well_laid_lawn> xubuntu290:  which nvidia card ?
[09:32] <xubuntu290> in xubuntu 13.04 ,i dont know the video card name,how can i see the card?
[09:33] <well_laid_lawn> in a terminal do   lspci | grep -i vga
[09:33] <xubuntu290> 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] 771/671 PCIE VGA Display Adapter (rev 10)
[09:34] <well_laid_lawn> it's a sis card not nvidia
[09:34] <well_laid_lawn> which explains why the nvidia install kept failing
[09:34] <well_laid_lawn> !sis
[09:35] <xubuntu290> and how i install this card
[09:36] <well_laid_lawn> it should have been recognised automagically
[09:36] <well_laid_lawn> you can check the log at /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[11:50] <lampelina> hi guys, any quick tip how to add "more detailed view" to nautilus or thunar @xubuntu 13.04?
[11:50] <lampelina> I looked few tutorials for nautilus, but it just didn't worked
[11:51] <koegs> what is meant by "more detailed view"?
[11:51] <lampelina> i need to see resolution of photos
[11:51] <lampelina> just that
[11:51] <lampelina> from file manager
[11:55] <koegs> thunar does not support that, nautilus has "nautilus-columns"-ppa
[11:57] <lampelina> yes, I figured out, but the script for nautilus doesn't work and I saw that many people have this issue in newer versions of ubuntu/xubuntu
[11:59] <koegs> lampelina: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2147706
[12:01] <lampelina> saw this, but haven't seen the fix
[12:01] <lampelina> thanx
[12:09] <lampelina> ok, now I get some extra list options, but after that nautilus is chrashing
[12:13] <xubuntu041> sorry for my bad english, i am from greece. I have Linux Xubuntu 13.04 and i want to see my system informations for example, what prossecor or ram or HDD or graphic card i have. So how i can see them?
[12:13] <cfhowlett> !sensors
[12:13] <ubottu> To access CPU temperature sensors and detect fan speeds, install the lm-sensors package. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SensorInstallHowto for installation and usage instructions.
[12:14] <Myrtti> xubuntu041: open a terminal, type in "sudo lshw", enter your password, enjoy
[12:16] <xubuntu041> thanks a lot have a nice day
[13:56] <RemuN> I just hooked up a new monitor, with DVI connection instead of the old VGA monitor, and now Xubuntu shows black screen.. How do I fix this? (fglrx)
[15:11] <cson> Is it possible to adjust contrast on xubuntu?
[15:18] <GridCube> i don't know, but i do know that you can always run xgamma
[15:43] <cson> gridcube: thanks.. I was hoping I wouldn't have to use xgamma since it's deprecated.
[15:43] <GridCube> cson, :(
[15:43] <GridCube> yes i understand
[15:44] <c2tarun> can anyone please tell me where is java installed if installed via webupd8 ppa?
[15:45] <GridCube> c2tarun, type, whereis java
[15:46] <c2tarun> GridCube, actually I am looking for jdk folder with java source jars so that I can attach them to eclipse
[15:46] <GridCube> c2tarun, have you typed whereis?
[15:47] <c2tarun> GridCube, http://kickass.to/pink-pink-raise-your-glass-2010-t4777224.html
[15:47] <c2tarun> ohh sorry
[15:47] <c2tarun> java: /usr/bin/java /usr/bin/X11/java /usr/share/java /usr/share/man/man1/java.1.gz
[15:47] <c2tarun> I got this
[15:47] <GridCube> those are the folders then
[15:47] <c2tarun> but all are java executables
[15:47] <GridCube> in share too?
[15:47] <c2tarun> GridCube, nope these are executables
[15:48] <c2tarun> GridCube, in share its folder but no jdk. http://paste.ubuntu.com/6205468/
[15:49] <GridCube> locate *jdk*
[15:52] <c2tarun> GridCube, found it : /usr/lib/jvm/java-7-oracle/src.zip
[15:52] <c2tarun> thanks a lot :)
[16:08] <RemuN> I just hooked up a new monitor, with DVI connection instead of the old VGA monitor, and now Xubuntu shows black screen.. How do I fix this? (fglrx)
[16:09] <GridCube> RemuN, can you access you computer someway?
[16:10] <RemuN> My debian boot works fine, thats what Im on now
[16:10] <GridCube> RemuN, if you can access the /etc/X11 directory of your xubuntu install, try renaming the xorg.conf file and rebooting
[16:11] <GridCube> the xorg server should auto configure to the available output
[16:11] <RemuN> renaming? you mean add .backup or something? Or changing its contents?
[16:12] <GridCube> the file name yes, like xorg.conf.old or something like that
[16:12] <RemuN> ok ill try that
[16:17] <RemuN> GridCube, didn't work
[16:17] <RemuN> any other suggestions?
[16:18] <holstein> RemuN: what hardware is this? for my nvidia with vga and dvi im using i had to have the proprietary driver to make that work
[16:18] <RemuN> amd HD 5670
[16:18] <RemuN> propietary drivers are in use
[16:20] <holstein> i would try other ones.. and keep in mind, it might just not be possible to use both.. is that the goal? dual head?
[16:20] <RemuN> but Im using DVI only now, I was using vga before
[16:20] <holstein> or, just switching to DVI from VGA?
[16:20] <RemuN> yep
[16:21] <holstein> what happened when you blew out the xorg? can you get to anything? is it just black? nothing?
[16:21] <RemuN> I have dual head on CrunchBang, and here it recogized it immediately, even adjusted the resolution
[16:21] <RemuN> nothing, just black, like before
[16:21] <holstein> RemuN: here? what do you mean by "here"? on the same hardware in #!?
[16:21] <RemuN> yeah, dual boot
[16:22] <holstein> RemuN: what graphics driver are you using there? #! is based on wheezy.. is this xubuntu 13.04?
[16:22] <RemuN> no 12.04
[16:23] <RemuN> #! uses the newest drivers from the site, Xubuntu uses older ones (there were some issues with steam with the newest)
[16:23] <holstein> RemuN: what would i do? plug the vga back in.. remove the proprietary driver, and get the system back to as default as possible.. and plug the DVI in
[16:23] <holstein> RemuN: you can always add the ppa's for "newer" versions of the graphics drivers if you need
[16:24] <RemuN> and install drivers again after it sees the dvi?
[16:24] <holstein> steam has one that they suggest
[16:24] <RemuN> Im using the one steam suggested
[16:24] <holstein> RemuN: *if* "it" sees it
[16:24] <RemuN> yea ok
[16:24] <holstein> RemuN: try using the one from the repos as well. thats the one ubuntu/xubuntu will be officially supporting
[16:26] <RemuN> Yeah I will, the one steam suggested is from the repos
[16:26] <RemuN> ok thanks mate, ill figure something out
[16:26] <holstein> RemuN: good luck
[16:33] <RemuN> Wait, I just remembered, I use a script for lightdm which changed to the right resolution from the old monitor
[16:34] <RemuN> It puts CRT2 as primary monitor, and turns off DFP1 (my tv)
[17:44] <m3kk> Im running liveUSB of xubuntu..how come its faster then my Mint installation with xfce lol?
[17:44] <m3kk> Makes no sense at all
[17:48] <holstein> m3kk: probably just what you have done, or how you have configured mint.. or, the different base version supports the hardware "better"
[17:55] <m3kk> holstein, ok thanks for the answer
[19:22] <RandallRO> Hi! i have a problem with my xubuntu, can anyone help? D:
[19:22] <RandallRO> Hi! i have a problem with my xubuntu, can anyone help? D:
[19:23] <elfy> !ask | RandallRO
[19:23] <ubottu> RandallRO: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience
[19:23] <RandallRO> oh oks thanks and sorry x3 this is the problem
[19:23] <RandallRO> “alias android-disconnect=”fusermount -u /media/XperiaMiniPro” “alias: no se encontró la orden “alias android-disconnect=”fusermount -u /media/XperiaMiniPro”
[19:24] <RandallRO> i try to conect my xperia mini pro but well i have a problem with this tutorial  http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/12/how-to-connect-your-android-ice-cream-sandwich-phone-to-ubuntu-for-file-access
[19:25] <bazhang> !info gmtp
[19:25] <ubottu> gmtp (source: gmtp): simple MP3 player client for MTP based devices. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.3.4-1 (raring), package size 121 kB, installed size 402 kB
[19:26] <holstein> RandallRO: there are also lots of other ways to connect.. have you tried something like airdroid? i literally plug a cable into my machine and android phone and select "mass storage device" and it just works
[19:26] <bazhang> that does it for my nexus 7 android
[19:27] <RandallRO> yeah i now but my system is not the original android is cyanogemod so does't work for cyanogemod
[19:27] <holstein> RandallRO: the connection with USB works for my CM phones
[19:28] <remun> holstein, removing the bash script for lightdm fixed the monitor issue, now it automatically detects the new one and changes resolution accordingly
[19:28] <holstein> remun: cheers
[19:29] <remun> just thought Id let you know, thanks again
[19:30] <RandallRO> how i can remove the bash script? and holstein how you do to connect your phone?
[19:31] <holstein> RandallRO: that bash script comment is not for you.. i literally plug my CM phone into the computer
[19:31] <holstein> RandallRO: have you mounted and accessed other USB media from ubuntu/xubuntu/linux?
[19:33] <RandallRO> oh sorry, and yeah other USB media work in my xubuntu
[19:35] <holstein> RandallRO: i plug in the device, the device asks "use as mass storage" and i select that
[19:35] <holstein> RandallRO: i also use airdroid, and other ssh or ftp or samba server/client options
[19:37] <RandallRO> Holstein: oks i will try FTP client, and i don't know why in my cm only have mtp and ptp to conect to the computer and don't have "use as mass sotrage" :/
[19:39] <holstein> RandallRO: i dont have "mtp and ptp".. i have charge only and storage
[19:40] <holstein> RandallRO: you should be able to drill into the menu and see how it is set.. you should look into cm support forums
[19:41] <RandallRO> Holstein: oh well thanks i will check this :D thanks and so mmm how i can remove this mensage to the terminal?“alias: no se encontró la orden “alias android-disconnect=”fusermount -u /media/XperiaMiniPro” “alias: no se encontró la orden “alias android-disconnect=”fusermount -u /media/XperiaMiniPro”
[19:43] <holstein> RandallRO: i think you might be overthinking this process a bit.. it literally automatically happens. seeing messages like that makes me think the drive is trying to mount, and maybe you have tried to edit options
[19:43] <holstein> RandallRO: what would i do? run a live CD, and plug the phone in.. test there
[19:45] <RandallRO> Holstein: oks thanks :)
[20:48] <Peyam> hi
[20:48] <Peyam> the last update skrevd my system
[20:48] <Peyam> it skreve the " Dekstop" in the setting manager
[20:48] <Peyam> and the key "S" dfoenst work
[20:48] <Peyam> please change it
[20:49] <Peyam> I have lots of programming to do
[20:49] <knome> Peyam, have you filed bugs? and what update are you talking about?
[20:49] <Peyam> why should I?
[20:49] <Peyam> why do you even release unneccesary updates?
[20:49] <Peyam> pleas
[20:49] <Peyam> e
[20:50] <Peyam> I dont have a account on whatsitsname
[20:50] <Peyam> lunchpad
[20:50] <knome> Peyam, you don't have to update. and please watch your language+attitude.
[20:50] <Peyam> knome: I dont have a attutide??? Im totally cool
[20:50] <Peyam> yes I dont have to. but I want I want to be able to choose what update I wana do
[20:51] <Peyam> knome: how do I remove the last update?
[20:51] <Peyam> I totally distroyed the Desktop menu. I cant have dual walpaper anymore
[20:52] <knome> Peyam, first of all, you haven't told what version of xubuntu you are using
[20:53] <Peyam> the latest one. Im here everyday. how couldnt you remember me. 13.04
[20:53] <Peyam> the latest update was about 2.2 Mb
[20:56] <Peyam> knome: so?
[20:56] <knome> !patience | Peyam
[20:56] <ubottu> Peyam: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com/ or http://ubuntuforums.org/ or http://askubuntu.com/
[20:57] <Peyam> okej
[20:59] <Peyam> knome: it updated something with xfce
[21:04] <Peyam> knome: the desktop changed from https://www.google.se/search?q=desktop+xubuntu&client=firefox-a&hs=dWJ&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=tCFTUuHAGYnc4QT77YHoCQ&ved=0CAkQ_AUoAQ&biw=1280&bih=904&dpr=1#q=desktop+xubuntu+13.04+setting+manager&rls=org.mozilla:en-US%3Aofficial&tbm=isch&facrc=_&imgdii=_&imgrc=MQTzSoHtsQPzoM%3A%3BDGOWks3KjBzaJM%3Bhttps%253A%252F%252Flh3.googleusercontent.com%252F-oFQGHVNi1tI%252FUX
[21:05] <knome> Peyam, please.
[21:05] <knome> Peyam, you don't have to direct messages to me.
[21:05] <Peyam> knome: are you going to help me?
[21:05] <knome> no, at least not at this point, i'm busy doing something else.
[21:06] <Peyam> ähh
[21:06] <Peyam> do you know how to remove the latest update?
[21:07] <Peyam> got it
[21:07] <Peyam> gotta test it now
[21:14] <Peyam> knome: I found the latet update
[21:15] <Peyam> it haintalled xfce4 4.11
[21:15] <Peyam> how do I get 4.10?
=== knome_ is now known as knome
[21:33] <Peyam> knome: the rouce of update from 12.-10
[21:33] <Peyam> do you know the adre
[21:33] <Peyam> ss
[21:33] <Peyam> resource
[21:33] <knome> Peyam, please stop directing messages at me.
[22:09] <inma> Hola, alguien me podría ayudar que acabo de instalar xubuntu 12.10 en mi pc y soy novata en GNU/Linux y el problema que tengo es que no se me apaga el pc
[22:09] <knome> !es | inma
[22:09] <ubottu> inma: En la mayoría de los canales de Ubuntu, se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español entre al canal #ubuntu-es; escriba "/join #ubuntu-es" (sin comillas) y presione intro.
[22:10] <inma> Gracias
[22:53] <xubuntu332> Hello, the application shortcuts are not working on xubuntu 13.04. I am running a lenovo t430u