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wilee-nileealexa, use more of the letters in their nick00:00
wilee-nileebefore hitting the tab00:00
alexawilee-nilee, thanks. it works00:01
wilee-nileealexa, Depending on the irc client you can double click the  nick and paste it ahnd hit tab for a comma.00:01
wilee-nileeand*00:01
wilee-nileecool you got it00:02
alexadouble click and middle click in text box :D xchat00:02
wilee-nileeheh, did not think of the middle click thanks00:03
YowlCan anyone name a program or method of hiding and/or locking files and/or partitions?00:04
YowlAnd I know about hide with files with .in front of them00:05
Jordan_UYowl: What is your end goal?00:06
guest-af8pWBSo I just had to do a hard restart and now I can't login to my main acount00:06
Jordan_UquadHelix: Why did you have to do a hard restart?00:06
guest-af8pWBLike the login screen opens, I enter my password, click login, it blinks and then goes back to the login00:07
guest-af8pWBThe UI became unresponsive... I guess I should have did sudo shutdown -r now00:07
guest-af8pWBnow that I think about it00:07
YowlJordan_U: Pretty much what I just said, to make files and/or partitions invisible and/or inaccessible unless you unlock them etc.00:07
wilee-nilee!reisub | guest-af8pWB for future notice00:08
ubottuguest-af8pWB for future notice: In an emergency, you may be able to shutdown cleanly and reboot by holding down Alt+PrintScreen and typing, in succession, R, E, I, S, U and B. For an explanation, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magic_SysRq_key00:08
sealbhachSomething like encrypt a partition?00:08
YowlSure00:08
guest-af8pWBahh thanks00:08
guest-af8pWBany idea why I can't login?00:09
wilee-nileeguest-af8pWB, Hard to say really where to go, if it were me and it was random I would fsck it.00:09
GreatBaconYowl: The easiest way to do it would be through permissions.  You won't be hiding them, but locking/inaccessible for sure.  User must change to a group with permissions to access the file.   Something like that maybe?00:09
Jordan_UYowl: If you're trying to prevent people from reading your important files then the only secure option is encryption, that can be done at various levels (individual file based, directory based (sort of, with ecryptfs) and partition based.00:09
repudiatewhat does encryptfs do?00:09
k1lguest-af8pWB: see syslog and the .xsession-errors in the users home00:09
wilee-nileeguest-af8pWB,You did not change the desktop manager lately did you?00:10
guest-af8pWBNo00:10
guest-af8pWBits 13.04 default00:10
GreatBaconrepudiate: it's for encryption.  did you know that you can issue a trailing '-h' to just about anything to find out what it does in short form, or 'man {programname}' for something more detailed?00:11
Jordan_Urepudiate: It takes files in a directory on a normal unencrypted filesystem and encrypts their names and contents, then allows you to (with a password or key) mount a virtual filesystem where the files are accessible unencrypted.00:11
guest-af8pWBcant sudo su from guest account00:11
guest-af8pWBGuess I can ssh from another machine00:11
wilee-nileeguest-af8pWB, Number of things to check the HD, a live cd, and check with gparted and the smartdisk check.00:11
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repudiateJordan_U: Thanks.  It sounded familiar.00:12
YowlJordan_U:  Does encryption require time to encrypt and decrypt each time you want to lock and unlock?00:12
Jordan_Urepudiate: You're welcome. It's the basis of Ubuntu's encrypted home directory feature.00:12
repudiateWhat is the basis?00:12
Jordan_Urepudiate: Ecryptfs.00:12
repudiateGreatBacon: What does -h have to do with it?00:12
repudiateJordan_U: I thought that it was third-party software.00:13
GreatBaconrepudiate: trailing a -h, for example 'encryptfs -h', gives short help00:13
guest-af8pWBwhere is the syslog00:13
repudiateohh thanks GreatBacon00:13
GreatBaconguest: /var00:13
GreatBaconYou're welcome repudiate00:14
guest-af8pWBthanks00:14
GreatBaconYou're welcome guest00:14
YowlJordan_U: Does encryption require time to encrypt and decrypt each time you want to lock and unlock?00:14
Jordan_UYowl: Please be patient, I'm still typing out my response.00:14
Yowll00:15
Yowlk00:15
Jordan_UYowl: Any form of encryption will add a little bit of CPU time for unencryption, but that is usually negligable. With ecryptfs or an encrypted partition you mount the volume once, and then all of the files are accessible as normal files until you unmount again, and in almost any workload you won't notice the additional time/CPU taken to decrypt (it's often decrypted faster than your HD can read the data).00:15
YowlJordan_U:  You're talking about this,https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/ECryptfs right? It says you can't encrypt partitions with it. But I am not sure why you couldn't/why that would be. Also is the space within the encrypt set, or can it expand or contract according to usage?00:18
jribYowl: "or"00:19
Darkmganyone in here help with OOP with UML, or know what channel I should be in?00:19
JarchyWhat are the new features of Ubuntu 13.0400:19
guest-af8pWBSo I mv .xsession-errors .xsession-error.old then try to login00:19
Yowljrib: "?"00:19
guest-af8pWBIt didn't generate a new .xsession-error00:19
k1lguest-af8pWB: no00:19
jribYowl: Jordan_U said "ecryptfs or an encrypted partition"00:20
k1lguest-af8pWB: just show the .xsession-errors in a pastebin so we can have a look if you are not familiar with such error messages00:20
guest-af8pWBhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/6207347/00:20
YowlJordan_U:  And if I use this, what happens if I replace my install with a new version, or even a new distro, does the encryption and its unlocking mechanisms carry over in home or something?00:21
Jordan_UYowl: Yes, that is what I was talking about when I mentioned Ecryptfs. I also mentioned using an encrypted partition, which is something different (LUKS).00:21
JarchyWhat are the new features of 13.0r00:21
Jarchy400:21
k1l!raring | Jarchy00:21
ubottuJarchy: Ubuntu 13.04 (Raring Ringtail) is the current release of Ubuntu. Download http://releases.ubuntu.com/13.04/ - Release notes: http://ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes/13.0400:21
JarchyWhat is new?00:22
PiciCheck the release notes.00:22
k1lguest-af8pWB: make sure your users home belongs to your user00:22
guest-af8pWBkil: It does00:23
guest-af8pWBls -l00:23
k1lguest-af8pWB: use "ls -al" and see if there is a .Xauthority file00:24
Jordan_UYowl: If you use ecryptfs and reinstall Ubuntu I think Ubuntu's installer will be smart enough to notice and configure things properly, with other distros you can certainly do it but it might require manual setup. If you use Ubuntu's encrypted home feature then everything required to decrypt is stored in your home directory.00:25
guest-af8pWBThere is in my home dir. "/home/stephen" there are actually a bunch, with various extensions after.00:25
guest-af8pWBKil: but there is one that is just .Xauthority00:25
k1lguest-af8pWB: does this one belong to stephen:stephen?00:26
guest-af8pWBkil: yes00:26
guest-af8pWBkil: noi00:26
guest-af8pWBkil: sorr00:26
guest-af8pWBit belongs to root00:26
guest-af8pWBthe others belong to stephen00:26
k1lthat can be a problem. it happens  if you fiddle with root rights like misuse of sudo00:27
k1lguest-af8pWB: use chown to make it stephan:stephan again00:27
Jordan_UYowl: Ecryptfs still keeps individual files as separate files in the underlying filesystem, so for instance if you had two files in an ecryptfs encrypted directory, one a text file and the other a video and you looked at the directory before "unlocking" you would see two files with random filenames, one that was a few Kb and the other that was a few GiB. So while you wouldn't be able to tell exactly what each was, you could easily ...00:28
YowlJordan_U encrypted home feature, means it has to be home that is encrypted, and only home can be encrypted by it?00:28
Jordan_U... guess which was the video and which the text file.00:28
guest-af8pWBKil: sudo chown .Xauthority stephen:stephen?00:28
rrmdoest 12.04 LTS work ok with Lenovo x130e?00:29
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k1lguest-af8pWB: change tha last both: chown user:group file00:29
guest-af8pWBkil: ok thanks00:30
Jordan_UYowl: If you want to use the nice simple to setup and use stock feature, yes. You can also manually configure ecryptfs for any individual directory, though if you wanted to encrypt all your files including system files (which honestly does *not* make much sense) you would want to go with an encrypted root partition (using LUKS).00:30
guest-af8pWBkil: its permissions are -rw-------00:30
guest-af8pWBkil: is that ok?00:30
k1lyes, that is fine00:30
guest-af8pWBkil, ok ill try to switch users00:30
rrmis there support for bmc432224 wireless card in LTS?00:31
guest-af8pWBkil, that fixed it. Thanks! Could you explain how the owner would get changed?00:31
YowlJordan_U: I don't exactly get what you mean by encrypt all files including file system, I want to encrypt a specific chunk of data, but I do not want to encrypt home.00:32
k1lguest-af8pWB: that is a comon problem if users use "sudo" in wrong places. like running GUI programs with sudo00:32
Jordan_UYowl: Will all the data you want to encrypt be in the same directory, or a small set of directories?00:33
guest-af8pWBkil so like sudo gedit is bad?00:33
k1lyes00:33
Jordan_U!gksudo | guest-af8pWB00:34
ubottuguest-af8pWB: If you need to run graphical applications as root, use « gksudo », as it will set up the environment more appropriately. Never just use "sudo"! (See http://psychocats.net/ubuntu/graphicalsudo to know why)00:34
YowlJordan_U One master directory with sub directories AKA folders within it (and some folders within folders etc)00:34
guest-af8pWBOh I see.. Ill take a look.00:34
guest-af8pWBThanks for the advice00:34
Jordan_UYowl: Then you can manually configure ecryptfs to encrypt just those directories (or make a separate encrypted partition for just those files, but that is much less flexible).00:35
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Mixxitcya guys thanks00:36
YowlJordan_U If As I asked earlier, if I do it that way, is the space within flexible? I mean can I add and remove content to the encrypted directories and have the amount of space encrypted shrink and grow accordingly?00:37
Jordan_UYowl: Yes.00:37
Jordan_UYowl: If you look more at how ecryptfs works you'll understand why that's true, and I think it's pretty novel / cool :)00:38
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skinuxCan Ubuntu, GParted, Terminal, and an IRC client survive a few minutes without 'home' directory being mounted?00:39
YowlJordan_U:  But that website says "eCryptfs is an actual file-system" and if it is a FS, doesn't it have to have proclaimed space like any FS? I mean by merit of being a FS, doesn't it become a quasi partition? As far as I have always heard, you can not have more then one FS on any partition.00:39
qq_This may be a dumb question but why do the iso releases (http://releases.ubuntu.com/precise/) get built from the week of the point release (8/22/13 - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PrecisePangolin/ReleaseSchedule) and the cloud images (http://cloud-images.ubuntu.com/releases/precise/release/) get built from the latest week (10/3/13) ? Is there a difference?00:40
semitoneshello00:43
semitonesgparted detects errors with my windows main partition. Is windows better at fixing ntfs than linux?00:43
k1lsemitones: i dont know if its scientifical, but i try to let windows fix its stuff00:44
semitoneshmm, k00:44
semitones:( gparted says "libparted bug found" :(00:45
mrrcpdenyhost or fail2ban?00:48
YowlJordan_U: But that website says "eCryptfs is an actual file-system" and if it is a FS, doesn't it have to have proclaimed space like any FS? I mean by merit of being a FS, doesn't it become a quasi partition? As far as I have always heard, you can not have more then one FS on any partition.00:48
mrrcp!denyhost00:48
mrrcp?denyhost00:48
mrrcp!fail2ban00:48
mrrcp?fail2ban00:48
mrrcpbla!00:48
skinuxI'm a little confused, user account says administrator, but I'm not logged in as root.00:48
wilee-nileeskinux, whay are you logged in as root?00:49
wilee-nileewhy*00:49
zykotick9skinux: ubuntu doesn't use root account, but instead sudo.  see "/msg ubottu sudo" and "/msg ubottu notroot" for more details.00:49
skinuxI'm -not- logged in as root, that is why it confuses me. I thought administrator was root or a user in root group.00:49
wilee-nileeskinux, Ah I miss read that the main install account is a admin, you just need a  password to execute it00:50
zykotick9skinux: in ubuntu it means, in "sudo" group.00:50
k1lskinux: ubuntu disables the root login. so a administrator is a user who can use sudo00:50
ampwhow do i change files icon00:51
ampwi have a jar file that i want to change the icon of00:51
Ziber_part00:52
skinuxOh, ok.00:52
semitonesI think my USB drive is messed up. It made gparted crash. What can I do?00:53
wilee-nileesemitones, This a HD and can the smartdisk app see it?00:54
semitonesthumbdrive00:54
semitoneswhat's smartdisk?00:54
wilee-nileesemitones, Not a hd inspection app, all over the web if you really want to know.00:55
wilee-nileeis a, not was a misspell00:55
semitonesok, i'll look for it in the repos00:56
semitoneswhen i tried to gparted it, it says IO error00:56
YowlJordan_U: Are you still there?00:58
YowlSplatter_Waste_F: Please don't send me bot like sales pitches for coffins....00:59
wilee-nileesemitones, Dies it crash on the read at the beginning of gparted?01:00
joshua_hi. Im trying to run a program but I get this error in the terminal:err:module:attach_process_dlls "symphony.dll" failed to initialize, aborting01:00
joshua_err:module:LdrInitializeThunk Main exe initialization for L"C:\\Program Files\\RebirthRO\\RebirthRO.bin" failed, status c000000501:00
wilee-nileesemitones, smartdisk is already installed I don;t think it will read a usb flash though.01:01
KillerGhello01:01
semitoneswilee-nilee, any ideas?01:01
KillerGi have a question01:01
wilee-nileesemitones, I asked a question.01:01
wilee-nileesemitones, Does it crash on the read at the beginning of gparted?01:02
KillerGi just install the latest version of ubuntu and i can connect to the wifi but the led for my wifi keeps blinking01:02
wilee-nileeKillerG, run lspci ans identify the wifi to the channel.01:03
semitoneswilee-nilee, gparted is able to scan it ok, but trying to apply any operations crashes it01:03
daftykinsKillerG: that's probably showing activity01:03
KillerG daftykins: its not suppised to to do that01:04
daftykinsit's not? one of my old wifi cards does :D01:04
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KillerGits an hp pavilion01:05
wilee-nileesemitones, I would just try to see if you can delete all and make a new partition table, it might just be broken, flash are cheap. Really your not new here, you would know that details are important, for example you have data you might want there.01:05
KillerGthe thing is01:05
KillerGit says im connected to wifi01:05
KillerGbut it doesnt let me load anything on firefox01:06
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semitoneswilee-nilee, you're right, but I don't have any data I care about. How would I try to delete all? I've only used gparted before. I'm not sure what technique to use.01:07
Gutokd os  mano e  as mina  da ki ?01:08
wilee-nileesemitones, What did you try in gparted?01:08
semitoneswilee-nilee, tried deleting the partition01:08
KillerGi really need to get this done01:08
KillerGit says im connected to wifi01:08
KillerGbut it doesnt let me load anything on firefox01:09
rrmcan I watch netflix in ubuntu?01:09
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delinquentmehey all could someone give me their output for $ which java01:10
delinquentmeand $ echo $JAVA_HOME01:10
bwayne!netflix | rrm: yes you can. follow these instructions.01:10
ubotturrm: yes you can. follow these instructions.: If you use Netflix, there is an unofficial solution for using it in Ubuntu detailed in http://www.compholio.com/netflix-desktop/ - bug reports in https://bugs.launchpad.net/netflix-desktop01:10
bwaynedelinquentme: nothing here.01:11
delinquentmebwayne, nothing for JAVA_HOME either?01:12
semitonesdelinquentme, /usr/bin/java, and no result01:12
wilee-nileesemitones, dd should work in general, be sure you have it pointing at the flash. http://askubuntu.com/questions/308898/wipe-usb-flash-drive-ubuntu01:12
bwaynedelinquentme: nope.01:12
rrmbwayne: how about xbmc?01:13
bwayne!xbmc01:13
bwayneoh well.01:14
semitoneswilee-nilee, thanks. No errors so far :)01:14
bwaynerrm: https://apps.ubuntu.com/cat/applications/xbmc/01:15
Ari-Yangrrm: what about xbmc?....01:15
wilee-nileesemitones, Cool, yhou will just need to make a new partition table in gparted, I would keep an eye on it if you get it running, you know the use it's had.01:15
yukHello everyone I am having trouble with my Triple boot with Win8, Saucy Salamander, and Mint 15. Can someone lend a hand with my UEFI issue?01:17
yukI made a post on the forums here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2179171&p=12810340#post1281034001:18
semitoneswilee-nilee, yes, thanks!01:18
skinuxShould /home/ubuntu/Ubuntu exist?01:24
skinuxI've /home/home/ubuntu/Ubuntu/ which contains home (empty) and vmlinuz.old01:25
macspleanwondering if somehow can help me figure out how to open sublime text 2 from the terminal01:27
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skinuxfiles in .ecrypt are simply encrypted versions of everything, right?01:41
qq_Is there a better place to ask this...01:45
qq_This may be a dumb question but why do the iso releases (http://releases.ubuntu.com/precise/) get built from the week of the point release (8/22/13 - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PrecisePangolin/ReleaseSchedule) and the cloud images (http://cloud-images.ubuntu.com/releases/precise/release/) get built from the latest week (10/3/13) ? Is there a difference?01:45
comodo_dragonubuntu 13.10 rocks01:45
comodo_dragon:D01:45
arowanaHi all, Good Morning01:48
JarchyGood morning01:49
JarchyIt is night time though01:49
daftykinsthere are many users in many time zones, it's an accepted standard that you can greet anyone as any time of day and let it slide...01:49
JarchyOk lol my bad01:50
comodo_dragonhehe01:50
comodo_dragonits early morning here.01:50
JarchyWell I hope you have a great breakfast01:51
JarchyI had a good dinner01:51
comodo_dragonha01:51
daftykins:D01:51
comodo_dragonits like 3am here :D01:51
daftykins^same01:51
comodo_dragonwhat did you  get for dinner?01:51
JarchyOh nice all night er01:51
comodo_dragon:D01:51
JarchyTaco hamburger helper01:52
comodo_dragonhehe we dont get them here01:52
JarchyNo!!!!!!!  I can't live without it lol01:53
comodo_dragonlol01:53
JarchyYou guys gave in and out?01:53
Jarchy*have01:54
comodo_dragonyea01:54
comodo_dragontakeaway, but its crap01:54
JarchyThat's what's up  all is not lost01:54
comodo_dragon:D01:55
comodo_dragonat least in where i live its crap01:55
comodo_dragonprobably in london might be better01:55
comodo_dragon;)01:55
comodo_dragonchinese takeaway etc01:55
arowanawhat kinds of projects r ppl working on in Ubuntu.....??01:55
arowanawe are using it for proxy - auto backup - testdb - etc01:55
JarchyOh well I love it  I'm not a fat person though I am like 16001:56
Sinc_I use it for a testing server of mine, that's about it01:56
arowanagr801:56
JarchyI like to learn to program01:56
arowanaProgram in ??01:56
comodo_dragoni try to get it from well 'populated and used' places, cos i have had bad experiences in the past.01:56
Sinc_I still use Windows for a lot, though01:56
comodo_dragonfor what?01:56
Sinc_Since Word is still best typesetting program, and Photoshop is important for me too01:56
JarchyI stopped using Windows years ago01:57
Sinc_And unfortunately neither of those run properly in WINE01:57
Sinc_Jarchy, it's sort of required for my job01:57
arowanaok, can't get out of windows....01:57
comodo_dragoni dont like windows because when im reading and writing, i have to alt tab all the time01:57
Sinc_Our smartcards don't work properly in most Linux distros01:57
comodo_dragonin linux ican just point and scroll01:57
Sinc_comodo_dragon, yeah, workspaces are nice01:57
arowanahmm01:58
JarchyYah that's lame OpenOffice and gimp work for replacements01:58
Sinc_Heh, well01:58
Sinc_Not really01:58
arowanaWe are using Libre...01:58
Sinc_OpenOffice is missing quite a few things I want01:58
arowanaits improving01:58
Sinc_and GIMP just really isn't a proper Photoshop replacement yet01:58
comodo_dragonlibreword is ok, compared to when it was 1-2 years ago. it had awful gui..01:58
Sinc_They're good for most stuff I do, but occasionally01:58
Sinc_I need Photoshop01:58
arowanaDoesnt Ubuntu have n e good Photoshop alternative??01:59
Sinc_GIMP + Inkscape is really the closest there is01:59
Sinc_And neither of those has developed to the point I'd like yet01:59
JarchyYah  I have never Got very far in photoshop I even used gimp in windows02:00
arowanan e one using sublime text??02:00
Sinc_I like sublime text02:00
Sinc_Bit spendy though02:00
arowanahmm02:00
JarchyI it is paid app02:00
arowanaWe are using VIM havent got to useing sublime to its full potential...02:00
wilee-nileeThis is not chant but support take it to #ubuntu-offtopic02:01
wilee-nileechat*02:01
Sinc_Yessir02:01
arowanaok...02:02
comodo_dragonvim is annoying02:03
comodo_dragonpico/nano ftw02:03
zykotick9comodo_dragon: please keep "comments" out of this channel.02:03
arowanabye 4 now, time to leave for office...02:04
arowanaTC02:04
symbawhat shitty users in here02:05
Boing66Hello02:06
comodo_dragondont kill the conversation.02:07
ampwif i install a program why wouldnt it execute02:11
ampwi installed from source properly no erros02:12
wilee-nileeampw, why source, did you check the repos, and what is it?02:12
ampwsylpheed.02:12
ampwi've never had a problem installing it before02:12
wilee-nilee!info sylpheed02:13
ubottusylpheed (source: sylpheed): Light weight e-mail client with GTK+. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.3.0-1ubuntu1 (raring), package size 823 kB, installed size 2032 kB02:13
deckard_hello. I have an error message, may i post it here? IT has to do with Software Center02:13
wilee-nileeampw, Again why source?02:13
daftykinsdeckard_: use paste.ubuntu.com if it's a long one02:13
deckard_ty02:13
ampw3.3 is newest02:13
ampwrepo has 3.202:14
wilee-nileedeckard_, Sure if its long pastebin it.02:14
ampwhas a beta02:14
deckard_http://paste.ubuntu.com/6207623/02:14
wilee-nileeampw, where is this source from, technically from the repos is what's supported here.02:14
ampwfrom their website02:15
wilee-nileedeckard_, You add a repo?02:15
deckard_wilee-nilee, i do not know02:15
wilee-nileedeckard_, pastebin sudo apt-get update ; sudo apt-get upgrade02:16
deckard_ty02:16
deckard_wilee-nilee, been doing that, did not fix02:16
wilee-nileeampw, If no one knows here you may have to contact them, details are important here.02:17
wilee-nileedeckard_, Right, however it would help to see what that shows.02:17
deckard_oh ok02:17
deckard_wilee-nilee, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6207634/02:20
wilee-nileedeckard_, If you were trying to install from the Software Center, run that in the terminal and pastebin it.02:22
deckard_wilee-nilee, how would i "run that int h terminal"02:23
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wilee-nileedeckard_, Was it a install, it would be sudo apt-get install "app" without the quotation.02:24
RonusRaring is giving me FITS!02:25
Ronuswell an aspect of it is anyway02:25
daftykinsRonus: that's by design02:25
Ronushuh?02:26
RonusReally?02:26
daftykinsheh no i jest02:26
daftykinswhat's up?02:26
Ronusah! LOL02:26
Ronuswell my Ipod...it keeps crashing the WHOLE bloody thing.02:26
RonusIt, with Amarok02:27
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daftykinstried another player? i keep hearing talk of Clementine02:28
RonusYep...tried it and it ALSO crashed/crashes.02:28
RonusThinking I must be missing something02:29
daftykinscan't say i've ever touched Apple gear02:29
daftykins!ipod02:29
ubottuFor information on how to sync and add tracks to your iPod, see the guide at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IPodHowto - For the iPhone and the iPod Touch, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PortableDevices/iPhone - See !RockBox for information on liberating your iPod02:29
daftykinsbut i wonder if any of those links have any secrets02:29
OerHeksgtkpod used to work.02:30
RonusAh! okay...thanks.!02:30
mrrcpwhats a good tool to monitor my traffic on my server?02:34
zexcrizi have an USB drive, but i can't change permissions to it. It only has owner me and access: create and delete files other than that i can't change any permission values. ?02:35
wilee-nileezexcriz, How is it formatted?02:36
daftykinszexcriz: which file system?02:36
wilee-nileefat, ntfs, or ext type partition?02:36
zexcrizntfs02:37
vrkhans#islam02:37
vrkhansexit02:37
daftykins0o02:38
wilee-nileezexcriz, not sure what you mean by permission values, if you can create and delete files.02:38
zohansome body can u help me?02:39
zexcrizwilee-nilee, i want to give other users access rights. i can't change and give the attributes to the  zexcriz group read, write and execute permissions.02:40
daftykinszohan: you have to ask a question first02:40
deckard_wilee-nilee, quake terminal so sudo ap-get install quake terminal?02:40
wilee-nileezohan, Doing?02:40
deckard_wilee-nilee, guake*02:41
wilee-nileedeckard_, sudo apt-get install guake02:41
deckard_wilee-nilee, ty, is there a command to just reset software center ?02:42
wilee-nileezexcriz, Ah a network issue, not my area really, that info would have helped from the start is all.02:42
zohani want to install nvidia optimus driver on ubuntu 12.04, i do based this tutorial http://wiki.ubuntu.com/ . but it's not work.02:43
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wilee-nileedeckard_, Not sure why the software center is not working, I never use it myself, have you tried any other installs?02:43
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deckard_so far none work, ill keep trying02:43
zohansorry the tutorial it's here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bumblebee02:44
zohanand it's not work02:44
zexcrizwilee-nilee, what should i do ?02:44
wilee-nileedeckard_, It does seem broken, you might look on askubuntu with the error.02:44
deckard_ty, for your help02:45
OerHekszexcriz, you cannot change permissions on ntfs, it is not posix.02:45
zexcrizOerHeks, http://askubuntu.com/questions/11840/how-to-chmod-on-an-ntfs-or-fat32-partition02:46
zexcrizit is POSIX compatible as mentioned in that thread.02:46
OerHekszexcriz, wrong info.02:47
zexcrizOerHeks, ok02:48
OerHekszexcriz, copy the files to the ext2/3/4 hdd and you can make it work02:50
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zexcrizOerHeks, i am having 350 GB of local ubuntu mirror packages.02:53
J-2my ubuntu game library keeps growing im so excited :P02:54
J-2(linux)02:54
J-2w/e02:54
pec_arhi. I shooted down my pc and i disconected everything to change it to another place. When i conected everything again and power it on, the monitor stay in stand by. Never change this state. What should i do? I tried with other monitor and the result is the same thing. The pc is workig because i can see the pages it serves.02:58
cipherboyQuestion for all... Recently got a new computer, came with Windows 8, figured I would set it up like my older (pre-UEFI) computers and dual boot it. Long story short, took a bit of work, but I got it. However, whenever I boot into windows 8, I always have to restore the bootloader because it seems to boot directly to Windows 8 without the GRUB menu (which I have set to always display), hence I am unable to switch back to Ubuntu. A02:58
zexcrizOerHeks, in the process i have messed up apache config, can i reinstall with again with default values of directory permissions etc ?02:59
pec_arhi the pc is working but my monitor still is in standby. what can i do?03:00
cipherboypec_ar: obvious question perhaps, but have you checked your display cables to verify they are plugged in?03:01
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pec_arcipherboy yes everithing is well connected.03:04
pec_arcipherboy everything is connected and the pc is working but it's blind.03:06
Dr_Willispec_ar:  so the bios and post screens worked?03:06
pec_arcipherboy  no. The monitor is in stand by everytime.03:07
trewq_I have installed 12.04LTS. Is there a way to install mysql 5.6? The standard apt-get install gives me  mysql version 5.5.3203:08
cipherboyIf by that you mean to respond to Dr_Willis's comment regarding whether or not it worked in bios/etc, when you tried with the other monitor, did you use the same cable? I had a VGA cable go bad on me once, only worked if it was in a certain position, which moving might have effected.03:09
pec_arcipherboy  and the pc is working. i can see the http pages it serves by the net. It works with ubuntu 12.0403:09
Dr_Williscipherboy:  yep. Bad cables. bad pins, also had  monitors just die and stay in sort of an off mode.03:10
Dr_Willispec_ar:  so ssh in , tell the pc to rebooot. see if you see the bios/post screens.03:11
pec_arcipherboy i tried with other monitor but it stays in standby mode too. I can't acces by ftp or ssh. Why? I don't know03:12
Ronus!RockBox03:13
ubotturockbox is an open source firmware replacement for audio players from Archos, iRiver, Apple (iPod), and iAudio. See http://www.rockbox.org/ to get started!03:13
maxpedi recently switched the shell i use to zsh. it is vastly superior to bash. the only problem i have is:under bash, the history is stored seperatly from commands in tmux. so when i ssh into the machine, i would press up arrow to get 'tmux attach' press enter and be into my last session. now with zsh, its command history is tied into tmux in that when i ssh into the machine and press up arrow i get the last command i typed in tmux. so with zsh i 03:14
pec_arDr_Willis i can't access it by ssh or ftp. Why? I don't know.03:15
Dr_Willispec_ar:  ssh -vvvv the ip (or 3 v's) will give vebose info about why03:17
bambanxguys i downloaded the last ubuntu and restart my windows but it dont have the option for double boot :( i want windows and ubuntu03:17
Paulus68_1bambanx: which windows version are you using?03:17
bambanx703:18
Dr_Willisbambanx:  so you Installed ubuntu? (how) and reboot. and do not get a grub menu. but boot straight to windows?03:18
bambanxno03:18
bambanxi dont intalled03:18
bambanxwhen i boot my cd ubuntu03:18
ArcticVanguardit's not showing you an option to install along side windows?03:18
ArcticVanguardwhat options does it show you?03:18
bambanxit dont have the option for install and keep the windows03:18
Dr_Willisbambanx:  so you cant get the pc to boot the cd? how did you burn the cd/dvd?03:18
bambanxdvd03:19
Paulus68_1bambanx: try this tutorial http://askubuntu.com/questions/336597/how-to-dual-boot-windows-7-x64-and-ubuntu-13-04-x64-as-bios-not-efi03:19
Dr_Williswe are having to guess a bit way to much here. :) be more verbose in what you are doing.03:19
dToastso if im on windows currenty, (7), and im installing and booting off of ubuntu LTS, my mac adress stays same?03:19
bambanxthe first option is delete all my windows and it option have 2 checkbox , one about encript installation and other about lvm or some..03:19
qindToast: Yup03:19
dToastk good03:19
Dr_WillisdToast:  with my router. it rembers mac-> ip addresses. so this pc always gets the same IP reguardless of what os i boot on it.03:19
ArcticVanguardhmm, how much free space is on your drive?03:20
dToastjust making sure03:20
Dr_WillisdToast:  i imagine they COULD change. but many routers have specific 'rember/assign mac->ip' settings also03:20
dToastim on an airport extreme so it should remember it03:20
Dr_Willisi also tend to make the routers dhcp assign ips from like 192.168.11.100+   then i can set up machines on the lan with static ips. if i use below that range03:20
Paulus68_1bambanx: you can't burn the ubuntu iso to dvd since it won't work the best thing you can do is to use an usb drive in order to boot into ubuntu setup http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/create-a-usb-stick-on-windows03:21
Dr_Willisie: my printer is always 192.168.11.15 ;) has been for years03:21
Dr_Willisbrb03:21
xanguaPaulus68_1: why it wouldn't work¿03:22
dToastthanks uys03:22
dToastguys*03:22
Paulus68_1xangua: I don't know why it won't work but know this from my own experience tried to burn the desktop iso to dvd and launched setup, and my pc didn't like that :(03:23
Paulus68_1xangua: since now a days you can easily boot through usb drives use an 4gb usb drive with serveral os on it in order to install your favorite os on a given computer03:24
bambanxpaulus68, it need a spetial format the usb?03:24
bambanxi have things on the usb , should format ?03:25
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cfhowlettbambanx, unetbootin will format the USB for  bootable mode03:25
bambanxthis program have the format option i used http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/create-a-usb-stick-on-windows03:26
cfhowlettbambanx, that will also work03:26
bambanxu know what i mean cfhowlett03:26
bambanxcool03:26
bambanxnever i booted from usb03:27
Paulus68_1bambanx: yes03:27
bambanxok i will restart now03:30
valeriohello, somebody can help me on openerp?03:31
comodo_dragonno.03:36
cfhowlett!patience|valerio,03:41
ubottuvalerio,: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com/ or http://ubuntuforums.org/ or http://askubuntu.com/03:41
cfhowlett!behelpful|comodo_dragon,03:42
ubottucomodo_dragon,: As our !guidelines say, "When helping, be helpful". If you're not familiar with the issue at hand, let someone else handle it instead of making !offtopic comments or jokes.03:42
comodo_dragon!offtopic03:42
ubottu#ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!03:42
bambanx--da03:45
bambanx--guys anyone can read me_03:45
bambanx--i am on ubuntu now , live03:45
Paulus68_1bambanx--: good to hear that03:46
cfhowlettbambanx--, see you we do03:46
comodo_dragon!lts03:46
ubottuLTS means Long Term Support. LTS versions of Ubuntu will be supported for 3 years on the desktop, and 5 years on the server; with the exception of 12.04 (Precise Pangolin), which will be supported for 5 years on the desktop. The current LTS version of Ubuntu is !Precise (Precise Pangolin 12.04)03:46
comodo_dragoni dont like precise pangolin03:46
Ari-Yangcomodo_dragon: what do you mean "don't like"?03:47
comodo_dragonbloated03:47
comodo_dragon13* is better03:47
cfhowlettcomodo_dragon, so don't use it.  no shortage of options.03:48
comodo_dragonit was not a good idea to make it 5years support.03:48
bambanx--ok, guys this is the options i have for install http://imgur.com/ra9LRUs03:49
comodo_dragonanother 5 years of bloat.03:49
Ari-Yangcomodo_dragon: I use 12.10...03:49
Ari-Yangcomodo_dragon: okay you don't like it, move on :|03:49
comodo_dragon:) i use 13.1003:49
cfhowlettcomodo_dragon, some users LIKE stability.03:49
bambanx--can be my ubuntu version_03:49
bambanx--?03:49
bambanx--i downloaded 13.0403:49
bambanx--developer03:50
Ben64Ari-Yang: you'll need to upgrade twice before january03:50
Paulus68_1bambanx--: do you have free space on your windows 7 disk?03:50
hooflung128comodo_dragon: what makes it bloated over any other version03:50
bambanx--yeah a lot03:50
bambanx--my disk is 1 tera i have like 400 gigas free03:50
cfhowlett!dual|bambanx--,03:50
cfhowlett!dualboot|bambanx--,03:50
ubottubambanx--,: Dual boot instructions: x86/AMD64: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DualBoot/Windows - Macs: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacBookPro https://help.ubuntu.com/community/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot03:50
Ari-YangBen64: naw, I'm not upgrading.... don't want to have to bother with a possibly failed upgrade03:50
Ben64Ari-Yang: well you're going to lose support then03:50
Paulus68_1bambanx--: did you repartition your windows7 drive to free up some space otherwhise it's not going to work03:51
user_hiya03:51
Ben64and security updates, and every other update03:51
user_i need help03:51
wallzeroHey, I am having difficulty getting the Nvidia driver to load on boot. I am using kernel 3.11 and the Nvidia-331 driver03:51
Ari-YangBen64: no worries, I'm running on what I want, kernel 3.11, mesa 9.3 with UVD support03:51
Paulus68_1user_: !ask03:51
Ari-YangAkaigo-Arc 3.11.3-031103-generic x86_64 Description: Ubuntu 12.10 Codename: quantal03:51
cfhowlett!details03:51
ubottuPlease give us full details. For example: "I have a problem with ..., I'm running Ubuntu version .... When I try to do ..., I get the following output: ..., but I expected it to do ..."03:51
hooflung128i'm running 13.04 server on windows 8 pro via hyper-v here03:51
user_I'm not getting sound through hdmi03:51
Ben64Ari-Yang: thats nice, but you can't get help here like that03:51
Paulus68_1!ask |user_:03:51
ubottuuser_:: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience03:51
user_comp connected via hdmi to tv03:51
user_oic03:52
bambanx--i remember when i was using ubuntu it have the option for keep my windows03:52
bambanx--in old ubuntu versions03:52
Ari-YangBen64: but I don't need help thanks :303:52
cfhowlettbambanx--, you still have that option at the bottom of that screen:03:52
comodo_dragon13.10 is smoother03:52
Ari-Yang'sides this if offtopic :V03:52
comodo_dragonless bloated and much better.03:52
Paulus68_1bambanx--: that was probably before you using win703:52
wallzeroI receive this error from nvidia-settings, "You do not appear to be using the NVIDIA X driver. Please edit your X configuration file (just run `nvidia-xconfig` as root), and restart the X server."03:53
Ben64bambanx--: there must be something going on with your drive that doesn't allow extra partitions or something like that. pastebin "sudo parted -l"03:53
comodo_dragon!patience03:53
ubottuDon't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com/ or http://ubuntuforums.org/ or http://askubuntu.com/03:53
user_Using Ubuntu 13.04 connected from computer to flatscreen tv via hdmi cord, I'm getting no audio, despite all of my troubleshooting, also when i try to use the analogue jack I still get no sound, I've already tried changing the settings on the tv (insignia) and I'm still lost.03:53
comodo_dragon!gparted03:53
ubottugparted is a !GTK/!Gnome !GUI partitioning program. Type « sudo apt-get install gparted » in a console to install it - A GParted "live" CD is available at http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php03:53
bambanx--Ben64: http://pastebin.com/7hLEqZ1r03:54
wallzeroI have run nvidia-xconfig and rebooted, yet the Nvidia driver still does not load03:55
comodo_dragon!nvidia03:55
ubottuFor Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VideoDriverHowto03:55
Paulus68_1bambanx--: you need to create a new partition on your windows 7 drive in order to be able to install ubuntu along side win 703:55
Ben64bambanx--: try "something else" in the installer, you should be able to resize windows 7 and install on a new partition03:55
bambanx--If i do that can i keep my windows ?03:56
bambanx--i mean double boot?03:56
Ben64yes, just don't delete any partition03:56
Paulus68_1bambanx--: yes03:56
comodo_dragonyes03:56
comodo_dragon!dualboot03:57
ubottuDual boot instructions: x86/AMD64: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DualBoot/Windows - Macs: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacBookPro https://help.ubuntu.com/community/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot03:57
Ben64bambanx--: give us another screenshot before you finalize the partitions if you'd like, and we'll check that its ok03:57
Paulus68_1!cooky |comodo_dragon03:57
comodo_dragonhuh03:57
HathadarSometimes when I CTRL + ALT + t my screen does this. http://i1074.photobucket.com/albums/w403/Hathadar/screen_problem.png03:57
Paulus68_1!cookie |comodo_dragon03:57
ubottucomodo_dragon: Wow! You're such a great helper, you deserve a cookie!03:57
comodo_dragon:D03:57
HathadarUbuntu 12.04.3 LTS on virtualbox.03:58
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bambanx--type of the new partition?03:58
comodo_dragonare you a programmer?03:58
bambanx--primary ?03:58
bambanx--or logical?03:59
Paulus68_1Ben64:  can you do this also directly with gparted?03:59
Ben64bambanx--: logical if you plan on having more than 2 more partitions on that drive03:59
Ben64Paulus68_1: do what exactly04:00
Paulus68_1Ben64: resizing the partition04:00
bambanx--like that? http://imgur.com/08elEWe04:00
Ben64Paulus68_1: yes04:00
bambanx--i keep mount point on blank_04:01
bambanx--?04:01
Ben64bambanx--: uh... looks like you deleted the windows partition there04:01
Paulus68_1Ben64: thought it was better to do under windows itself04:01
bambanx--there i have the option of /boot /home ...04:01
linuhi all i have installed windows xp in my ubuntu 12.04 pc using virtualbox,but when i plugin my pendrive it showed only in ubunt  but not in windows,how can solve this issue?04:01
bambanx--what?04:01
comodo_dragon!troll04:02
bambanx--i dont deleted nothing yet04:02
Ben64bambanx--: there was a sda2 with windows on it04:02
cfhowlettlinu, you have to enable usb passthrough in virtualbox's settings04:02
hooflung128linu: do you have the USB passthrough enabled in VirtualBox properly first?04:02
* comodo_dragon enjoys helping users in channel/04:02
bambanx--yeah04:03
bambanx--damn04:03
bambanx--i revert04:03
Paulus68_1bambanx--: don't save anything and quit the installation run in terminal sudo apt-get install gparted04:03
bambanx--thanks Ben6404:03
linuhooflung128 ya i will check and tell04:03
bambanx--ok04:03
Paulus68_1bambanx--: after that run sudo gparted04:03
Ben64bambanx--: yeah you want to resize it, not delete it :)04:03
bambanx--open gparted04:04
Paulus68_1bambanx--: then select your harddrive and resize it04:05
bambanx--i dont have the option for resize04:05
hooflung128linu: also your user may have to be added to the vboxusers group04:06
bambanx--http://imgur.com/vInwXXP04:06
pegamoosei am new I have a problem with my laptop and ubuntu 12.04 lts04:06
hooflung128linu: http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/31726/mount-usb-devices-in-virtualbox-with-ubuntu/ see if that works for you04:06
cfhowlettpegamoose, details?04:06
Ben64bambanx--: needs to be unmounted04:06
bambanx--i am unmonting04:07
pegamoosehp zd 7000 wireless switch disabled04:07
cfhowlettpegamoose, dual booting?  go to windows and enable.04:07
pegamoosenot dual boot up04:07
cfhowlettbambanx--, if you're planning to dual bootk, ]]]04:08
cfhowlettpegamoose, did it ever work?04:08
bambanx--what u mean cfhowlett04:08
Dr_Willisyou did try the special fn/whatever keys to toggle wifi on/off?04:08
pegamooseidk got the unit with out a os04:08
cfhowlettbambanx--, you're going to need to fix that windows installation if you want it to work.  better to do so prior to installing ubuntu.04:09
bambanx--what u mean with fix?04:09
cfhowlettpegamoose, look on your keyboard for the hardware switch04:09
pegamoosetoo late unit had no operating system04:09
cfhowlettbambanx--, I mean get the windows disk, boot and run "windows repair"04:09
pegamoosefound the hard ware switch but it is disabled04:10
Paulus68_1cfhowlett: he just wants to dual boot and in order to do so with a win7 he needs to resize the partition first04:10
Paulus68_1cfhowlett: no repairs needed at this point in my opinion04:10
pegamooseno ti will be a ubuntu only04:10
cfhowlettpaulus68, I understood that he'd deleted his win, but OK04:11
cfhowlett!who04:11
ubottuAs you can see, this is a large channel. If you're speaking to someone in particular, please put their nickname in what you say (use !tab), or else messages get lost and it becomes confusing :)04:11
badomun2bandwith04:11
cfhowlettpegamoose, don't get confused.04:11
Paulus68_1cfhowlett: no he didn't do that just yet we could just prevented that from happening :)04:11
cfhowlettpegamoose, so your - keyboard switch didn't work.  try ctrl - wifi switch or alt-wifi switch.  After 4 years with my laptop, I JUST discovered that I didn't need to reboot to windows to enable.  I just had to add ALT to F2 and that fixed it!04:12
badomun2Weather for boise, id: N/A / N/AF (N/AC) - N/A / None04:12
cfhowlettbadomun, do you have an ubuntu support question?04:13
badomun2sorry04:13
pegamoose<cfhowlett> tks  I'll try that04:13
bambanxi am on windows again ::(   i dont wanna fix my windows04:14
bambanxwhat linux guy scan recommend me for dual boot on easy way?04:15
cfhowlettbambanx, right.  did you read the dual boot tutorial?04:15
cfhowlett!dualboot|bambanx,04:15
ubottubambanx,: Dual boot instructions: x86/AMD64: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DualBoot/Windows - Macs: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacBookPro https://help.ubuntu.com/community/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot04:15
bambanxmy english suck04:16
bambanxbut i am trying04:17
cfhowlettbambanx, get the tutorial.  read.  read again.  follow the steps.04:17
Paulus68_1bambanx: on your windows 7 create a new partition of half the size of the disk create it and not need to format that partition then go back into the live cd and check under gparted if you have 2 drives there04:20
linuhooflung128,  it shows me a window in that the message is Oracle VM VirtualBox Extension Pack need to install .04:21
acidrainjrhi04:21
kaos7yo04:22
acidrainjrwhat is this place really for04:22
kaos7?? been here 5 min04:22
m0ngrelsex04:22
Dr_Willis!ubuntu | acidrainjr04:22
ubottuacidrainjr: Ubuntu is a complete Linux-based operating system, freely available with both community and professional support. It is developed by a large community and we invite you to participate too! - Also see http://www.ubuntu.com04:22
kaos7newish to ubuntu hoping to learn something04:23
Paulus68_1!offtopic |mOngrel04:24
comodo_dragon!offtopic | <m0ngrel>04:24
ubottumOngrel: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!04:24
ubottu<m0ngrel>: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!04:24
comodo_dragon:D04:24
acidrainjr do we do here04:25
acidrainjrso what do we do here04:25
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Dr_Willisacidrainjr:  this is ubuntu support.04:26
acidrainjrokay do you know how in install utorrent i cant figure out how to do it04:27
Dr_Willisacidrainjr:  i belive the utorrent site has ubuntu .deb packages04:27
acidrainjri dilike using transmission04:27
Dr_Willistheres dozens of other torrent clients in the repios04:27
Dr_Willisrepos.04:27
Dr_Willisutorrent  on ubuntu has no GUI. its a web interface only last i tried it.04:27
Dr_Willisthe windows version of utorrent i do belive works in wine.04:27
acidrainjrno u torrent does not have the .deb packages04:27
kaos7the software center has a lot of torrent choices04:28
HathadarSometimes when I CTRL+ALT+t my screen goes funky. http://i1074.photobucket.com/albums/w403/Hathadar/screen_problem.png  This is a guest machine on virtualbox.  I need to leave fullscreen and re-enter it to fix the problem.  Why is this happening?04:28
Dr_Willishttp://askubuntu.com/questions/104094/how-to-install-utorrent-step-by-step04:28
nitkhow to solve this error while installing some packages in ubntu ..Error:"The following packages have unmet dependencies:"04:32
cfhowlettnitk, update, upgrade and dist-upgrade are the steps I follow.  rarely see the "unmet dependencies" error.04:35
linuhooflung128 i have plugin my hp pendrive but it is not showed in settings->USB, even i installed oracle extensions pack04:36
Dr_Willissudo apt-get update, sudo apt-get upgrade04:36
Dr_Willis:) dist-upgrade if you want a more intensive upgrade04:36
cfhowlettlinu, usb pass through on virtualbox or NO usb will be seen04:36
Dr_Willisi Recall you have to configure vbox befor you boot the virtual os to access usb devices..  I also seem to recall the vbox manual haveing a chapter on this04:37
linucfhowlett i could not find pass through options in virtulbox settings,04:37
cfhowlettlinu, look in the virtual machine settings for the VM you're working with.04:38
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nitkanyone is there04:45
Dr_Willis1000+ people here nitk04:45
kuugonitk: no one here lol04:45
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nitkhow to fix the error "The following packages have unmet dependencies:"04:46
kuugosudo apt-get install -f04:46
SturmirI've a rather odd issue. I'm trying to install Ubuntu onto an IBM R51 Thinkpad, and it states that the CPU (i1686) isn't supported, and i've double checked to make sure I grabbed the right Iso to no avail. Initial research into the subject doesn't seem to say much.04:46
SturmirPAE isn't supported by my CPU (as one possible reason why) and wondering if there is a work around04:47
Dr_WillisSturmir:  use an older ubuntu, there were some ubuntu spinoffs i recall that came with non-pae kernels. but i dont recall their names.04:47
Dr_Willisor use a differnt distro. ;(04:48
SturmirDarn, I love Ubuntu too much though :(04:48
Dr_WillisHow old is this machine?04:48
Sturmir2004?04:48
mdkwlanAn older version might have support for it.04:48
Sturmirat least, that's the last time the bios was flashed.04:48
SturmirI tried 10.1004:48
Sturmirand newer04:48
mdkwlanOh boy.04:48
kuugostill the same?04:48
Dr_Willis9 yrs old.04:48
SturmirYe.04:48
cfhowlettSturmir, xubuntu and lubuntu are optimized for older/low spec machines04:49
mdkwlanThere might be a spin of ubuntu that supports it still.04:49
Dr_Willisso you boot the install cd and it says you need pae?04:49
Dr_WillisIve seen some guides/info on getting a non-pae kernel repo. but never needed them ;)04:49
comodo_dragoni want to download PDFs of how to use ubuntu04:50
SturmirNo, I boot the USB (Tried the CD first, still same result) and it simply states that the kernel is x86_64 and the cpu detected is i1686.04:50
comodo_dragonand administer it04:50
cfhowlett!manual|comodo_dragon,04:50
ubottucomodo_dragon,: The Ubuntu Manual will help you become familiar with everyday tasks such as surfing the web, listening to music and scanning documents. With an emphasis on easy to follow instructions, it is suitable for all levels of experience. http://ubuntu-manual.org/04:50
mdkwlanJust read the man pages for apt04:50
comodo_dragonthans cfhowlett04:51
mdkwlanDr_Willis, how much do you know about grub 2.xx?04:51
Dr_Willismdkwlan:  i use it.. ive read the docs and guides. ;)04:51
mdkwlanSweet. You're the perfect person then.04:52
Dr_Willisyour question has yet to be actually asked. ;P04:52
mdkwlanAlright how would I go about editing the grub.cfg to make it so that the menu list will not show unless you hold right shift like in ubuntu04:52
mdkwlanYea typing and talking not a strong suit of mine lol.04:52
TiZThe clickpad on my Lenovo Y480, at least for as long as it will actually still be mine, is impossible to click and drag on. This is only one annoyance that will lead to me eventually selling it (since the retailer doesn't seem interested in taking a return). I need the ability to click and drag on this thing. I enabled the dead zone through AreaBottomEdge, so now I have a discrete left/middle/right click area, but now when I click and drag,04:52
TiZthe finger I try to drag with gets ignored. What do I do about this?04:52
Dr_Willismdkwlan:  the grub2 docs mention it.. for ubuntu its a setting in /etc/default/grub  not sure how that applies to other disrtos04:53
zykotick9mdkwlan: /etc/default/grub set time to 0 i believe04:53
Dr_WillisYou are using ubuntu?04:53
mdkwlanYea as a host04:53
kuugoi got buffer I/O swap with 3.8 kernel04:53
kuugobuffer I/O error04:53
mdkwlanI'm thinking more so about Arch but grub still pertains to ubuntu so yeah.... Don't yell at me lol.04:53
mdkwlanI'd ask the Arch guys but Arch is very RTFM. Ubuntu guys are a lot more friendly. :)04:55
Dr_WillisI imagine the grub wiki has info on the topic also.04:55
Dr_Willisthey spend most of their time working on their wiki. :)04:55
mdkwlanVery true04:55
Dr_Willisof course it could be the grub Config system on ubuntu is radically differnt also.04:55
Dr_Willisarch may not even have a /etc/default/grub04:55
mdkwlanit does04:56
mdkwlanI have an arch box pulled up04:56
kuugoyou need to add os-prober package to detect other OS in Arch04:56
mdkwlanIt's only a single boot in a VM04:57
kuugolol at first only arch showing up when i installed it04:57
mdkwlanYeah.04:57
kuugoand then got kernel panic in 3.10 Arch lol04:57
mdkwlanLovely.04:57
Dr_Willistempted to try arch on my raspberry pi.. but it tool  the pi like 4 hrs to compile weechat. ;)04:58
mdkwlanMakes me wonder. Is ubuntu going to move to systemd?04:58
mdkwlanI haven't kept up with 13.10 so I'm not sure if it's there already04:58
Dr_Willisive seen some 'systemd'  terms in 13.10 - but not sure if its in there or not. :) since i dont know about systemd04:58
mdkwlanIt's easy :)04:58
Dr_Willismount command on 13.10 here seems to so a 'systemd on /sys/fs/cgroup/systemd .......'04:59
Dr_Willisno idea wht that means04:59
Dr_Willis;)04:59
Dr_WillisI imagine the ubuntu focus of the devs and manpower is going to be on the ubuntu-touch stuff for the next few releases.. so i dont think they will be doing radical changes  that will suck manpower away from that project05:00
mdkwlanYea true05:00
kuugoYea05:00
mdkwlanThe ubuntu phone will be interesting05:00
Dr_Willisi will belive it when i see it come out. ;)05:00
mdkwlanIdk i'm half tempted to download 13.10 and see what's in it05:01
OwnixI install tightvncserver and I cant access it through my windows box with tight vnc viewer05:01
Dr_Willisand when it gets fed-ex'ed to my door and i open the box...05:01
Ownixam I missing something in the firewall? Its a fresh ubuntu install05:01
kuugo17 Oct will be released 1.0 Ubuntu Phone right?05:01
Dr_WillisOwnix:  theres no firewall rules by default.05:01
wilee-nileeDr_Willis, I have a questiot on wi-fi direct I have my nexus 7 connected to my new samsung smart tv, what can I do now, lol05:01
Dr_WillisOwnix:  are you on a local network> or over the internet?05:01
Dr_Williswilee-nilee:  i think you can send videos to it.  but ive never really used wifi direct. I got a lan. ;)05:02
OwnixDr_Willis: same network and same subnet05:02
mdkwlanthe vnc port forwarded?05:02
Dr_Williswilee-nilee:  use a upnp program like allshare, or others to send a video to the tv.05:02
Dr_WillisOwnix:  you got windows firewall on or off>? turn it off as a test.05:02
Ownixmdkwlan: is that needed when they are on the same network05:02
mdkwlanMHm05:02
Dr_WillisOwnix:  and you DID start the vncserver on the linux box?05:02
mdkwlanpidof vnc and tab to auto fill05:03
wilee-nileeDr_Willis, I have a usb to hdmi converter with the laptop and was able to get minidlna to work sort of, seems like video will work with the nexus, just not sure where to look on the device, I will ask on #android05:03
Dr_Williswilee-nilee:  i an get on my phone and have a 'play this video on device ..... and it shows the tv and other devices here05:03
OwnixDr_Willis: I think its started: http://pastie.org/private/a57q6rpu9gdusbzb4pc9g05:03
OwnixIm not sure though05:03
Dr_WillisOwnix:  look in your .vnc/* log files05:04
Dr_Williswilee-nilee:  also on a pc with xbmc i recall being able to send videos to any xbmc box if you got it configured. :)05:04
OwnixDr_Willis: http://pastie.org/private/liktrjqjflzcfofcwemow05:05
OwnixDr_Willis: do line 12 and 13 mean it crashed?05:05
wilee-nileeDr_Willis, thanks that's some info to work on.05:06
Dr_WillisUpnpPlay is what i use a lot on my android wilee-nilee05:06
mdkwlanWell I googled it and this was the solution05:06
mdkwlanI've just realised the simple fix:05:06
mdkwlanWhen I ran the VNC Viewer on Windows, and specified the RPi IP address, I didn't realise you have to put the session ID on the end (either the :1 or the :2).05:06
mdkwlanSimple really.05:06
mdkwlanCopy pasta05:07
Dr_WillisOwnix:  no idea. You cou.d ust edit your startcvnc stuff and comment those commands out.. and You DO realise you have a 2nd vnc session going? note the port is 5902 - that tells me you got another vnc session running05:07
Dr_Willis5902 -> :205:07
mdkwlan^05:07
Dr_Willisif you had 5 sessions going it would be 590505:07
Dr_Willisits eays to accidently start several vnc sessions by mistake ;)05:08
Dr_Willisvncserver --kill :1  (i think is the command)05:08
Dr_Willisto kill one05:08
mdkwlanor find the pid of it and kill it05:08
* Dr_Willis is on a Raspbery Pi right now. ;)05:09
mdkwlanOh god. He has three running if that's right05:09
mdkwlan5900 is the default05:09
Dr_Willisactually i THINK 5900 is reserved if you have the local desktop shared05:09
Dr_Willisps ax | grep vnc    will show you perhaps05:10
mdkwlanOh?05:10
OwnixDr_Willis: Im pretty sure 5902 is default because my fresh windows tightvncviewer install shows 5902 as default. also I did chmod -x .vnc/xstartup and now VNC viewer connects but I get this: http://i.imgur.com/tLjNb4b.png05:10
Dr_Willisi always setup a minimal window manager like jwm for my vnc sessions, jwm and a terminal window - is about all i start05:11
mdkwlanThat's an interesting way of doing it05:12
Dr_Willisvnc can be way to laggy with much more :)05:12
mdkwlanYep05:12
comodo_dragonVPN05:13
Dr_Willisvncserver here just stared on 590105:13
Dr_Willisstarted05:13
OwnixJWM seems incredibly minimal I like it05:13
OwnixI wonder how hard it would be to remove Cinnimon and install JWM05:13
Dr_WillisOwnix:  why bother removeing..05:14
Dr_Willisinstall jwm and select it at the login screen05:14
Dr_Willisjwm is lacking in some areas that people may want. :) like a dynamic menu generated  on the fly05:15
kingbeowolfwhen does 13.10 come out?05:15
Dr_Willisand even the most basic of setting front ends05:15
kuugofirst heard about jwm :D05:15
Dr_Willis!schedule05:15
ubottuA schedule of Saucy Salamander (13.10) release milestones can be found here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ReleaseSchedule05:15
kuugoi use subtle wm right now05:15
kingbeowolfi heard october05:15
cfhowlett!isitiout05:16
mdkwlanAwesomeWM is what I use but I mean to each their own.05:16
kuugoAwesome is nice05:16
Dr_Williskingbeowolf:  the version # is the release date. year/month05:16
mdkwlanYea im enjoying it05:16
Dr_Willisso yes.. it is october.. sometime. ;)05:16
kingbeowolfDr_Willis: wow thanks05:17
xmetali am curious about (if there is a new one) how Cinn will be05:17
kingbeowolfDr_Willis: that makes so much more sense now05:17
kuugodwm and subtle crashed in ubuntu 12.04 anyway05:17
xmetaloops wrong channel and wrong distro ... lol i forgot05:17
kuugoi have to compile it on my own for 1105:17
kuugosubtle still 10 in ubuntu repos05:17
kingbeowolfwhats the command to run a dist upgrade ?  is it sudo upgrade-manager -d ?05:17
Dr_Willisxmetal:  :) i bet the stuff in gnome 3.10 will put a hurt on cinniamon and other gnome-2ish de's05:17
mdkwlansudo apt-get dist-upgrade05:17
Dr_Williskingbeowolf:  a dist-upgrade is differnt from a 'upgrade to the next release'05:18
Tecan#ubuntu05:18
kingbeowolfoh really?05:18
Tecanoops05:18
Dr_Williskingbeowolf:  VERY VERY much so in ubuntu05:18
xmetali had cinn (still do honestly) running fine in my Mate 14 install ... Mate 15 (even in "Cinn safe mode") it lags05:18
xmetal(on the same PC)05:18
xmetalno big deal i mean :) so many DE's to choice from05:19
mdkwlanyea05:19
mdkwlanToo many some times05:19
Tecan~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~05:19
keanehsiaowould like to ask, I use monit and now want to monitor multiple instance with same name, ex importer1, importer2… importer100   and I don't know how to config it, though I found a discussion here : http://web.archiveorange.com/archive/v/kGf1yLlrdcYgdNBiGPMI   but still don't get it… any one can help on? thanks.05:19
xmetali have found LDXE lacking sometimes, but I still like it05:19
xmetalsame with some of the others05:19
OwnixI installed JWM through aptitude, then I restarted and now my computer wont progress past the DELL bios boot logo05:20
DeepBluei hane no system sound05:20
xmetalUnity ... is growing on me05:20
Ownixwhat the heck05:20
Dr_Williseverything is lacking in some way :)05:20
blue_how safe is ubuntu 13.04 for secure onlinr banking?05:20
mdkwlanxmeal don't give in!05:20
kuugoyep, everything got their own pros and cons05:20
xmetalhated it at first ... now its "not that bad"05:20
Dr_Willisif somthing has 'eveyrthing' then everyone says its bloated. ;P05:20
mdkwlanDebends blue_05:20
xmetaltrue @ Dr_Willis05:20
kingbeowolfDr_Willis: which should i do?05:20
mdkwlanDr_Willis, aka KDE cough05:20
blue_mdkwlan: how it depends05:20
cfhowlettblue_, most compromises are located between the keyboard and the display.05:20
Dr_Williskingbeowolf:  i dont know what you are doing.05:21
mdkwlanDepends more so on how big of a tin hat do you want to wear?05:21
kingbeowolfDr_Willis: just want try 13.1005:21
xmetalyes PEBKAC05:21
Dr_Williskingbeowolf:  'try' it - get a live cd.05:21
* xmetal whistles innocently05:21
Dr_Williskingbeowolf:  upgrade to it.. thats a differnt story. ;)05:21
Dr_Willis!upgrade05:21
ubottuFor upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes - see also http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/get-ubuntu/upgrade05:21
Ownixpulled power, waited ten seconds plugged it back in and now its booting again.  Not sure what the hell that was all about05:21
Dr_WillisOwnix:  it got tired. ;)05:22
kuugo17 Oct, 13.10 will be released, along with ubuntu phone 1.005:22
mdkwlanLike you can take as many steps as you want to prevent it blue_ but at the end of the day it really doesn't matter05:22
kingbeowolfi would use ubuntu phone but i have CDMA05:22
keanehsiaowould like to ask, I use monit and now want to monitor multiple instance with same name, ex importer1, importer2… importer100   and I don't know how to config it, though I found a discussion here : http://web.archiveorange.com/archive/v/kGf1yLlrdcYgdNBiGPMI   but still don't get it… any one can help on? thanks.05:22
Dr_WillisI will belive it when i see it. :) i dont see any reason for a delay. but It HAS happened in the past i recall.05:22
xmetali was almost going to try Ubuntu over (a clean install) of Mint 14 but decided against it atm ... esp when i saw i got Ubuntu 12.04 by mistake (meant to get 13.04)05:22
xmetalsilly me05:22
blue_i want steps that matter mdkwlan05:23
cfhowlettxmetal, Long Term Support is rarely a mistake IMO05:23
xmetalmay try Ubuntu against with 14.04 (next LTS release if i am not mistaken)05:23
DeepBluehow 2 activate system sound?05:23
mdkwlanblue_ if you want to put on a tin hat this would be a good start05:23
mdkwlanhttps://fixubuntu.com/05:23
mdkwlanOk get a VPS then use noscript that will work with the site so that you can login05:23
kingbeowolfin the "Software & Updates" app in the Settings panel.  In the "Updates" tab it says Pre-released updates (raring-proposed) what is that?05:23
mdkwlanI mean it moreso depends on the site than the os itself05:24
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mdkwlanWhat encryption is the site using? Are they are trusted bank etc. Preventing you from getting infected one thing relying on the bank to be secure is another.05:25
kieppie1?hibernation05:25
kieppie1!hibernation05:25
kieppie1hi05:26
kieppie1running 13.0405:26
kieppie1new laptop05:26
mdkwlanWelcome to the ubuntu club?05:26
blue_RC4, 128 bit keys'05:27
mdkwlanNot bad.05:27
kieppie1how do I enable hibernation? some of the guides I followed for my previous laptop did not work, or were extremely unstable05:27
john___help getting GRUB to see MINT?05:27
mdkwlankieppie1, http://askubuntu.com/questions/317519/hibernate-no-longer-works05:27
OwnixDr_Willis:  this is what im getting with JWM http://i.imgur.com/4rxhZ15.png05:27
xmetalthats a question?05:27
mdkwlanOh I've gotten that before05:28
blue_RC4, 128 bit keys' mdkwlan05:28
Ownixmdkwlan: Is there something in JWM or TightVNCServer I need to change?05:28
kieppie1`sudo pm-hibernate` works, but it's not shoing up in the power options/menu05:28
mdkwlanYea that's a good. I'd moreso assume its vnc05:29
mdkwlanI don't use Windows anymore so I'm not sure05:29
mdkwlanrdesktop is what I use now.05:29
kieppie1mdkwlan: the CLI works - it's the binding that seems problematic05:29
Ownixwhats that?05:29
mdkwlanOh wow. That's really weird kieppie105:30
mdkwlanrdesktop is remotedesktop05:30
Ownixwhat do I use for a client?05:30
mdkwlanIt's for linux only I think05:30
Ownixso rdesktop is a remote desktop client for linux machines to connect to windows machines?05:31
kieppie1rebooting - brb05:31
mdkwlanor to others yea05:31
OwnixOr rdesktop is a server that windows remote desktop can connect to?05:31
mdkwlanlinux to windows or linux to linux05:31
Ownixwhat about windows to linux?05:31
mdkwlanIt will use vnc or rdp05:31
mdkwlanNope because there isnt a windows version05:32
mdkwlanI want to say that's a framebuffer problem05:32
blue_xrdp for windows to linux05:32
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blue_install xrdp in linux, then access from windows using rdp05:33
mdkwlan Set the UpdateMethod parameter (in VNC Server options, Expert tab) from 2, to 1. If this doesn't work, try setting it to 0.05:33
mdkwlanfor vnc05:33
mdkwlanif its a framebuffer problem that will fix it05:33
Ownixxrdp is neat. Same problem though, but for some reason it asked me for a login and a session, and then it started cinnimon05:34
mdkwlanThat's cool that it worked kinda05:34
mdkwlanI assume cinnimon is your default DE?05:34
mdkwlanOwnix, is your linux box using proprietary graphics drivers by chance?05:35
OwnixI think so. It has an old DVI graphics card in the AGP port05:35
mdkwlanOmg agp05:35
Ownixlet me verify that05:36
mdkwlanI found something taking about that being an issue but it was for suse and not ubuntu. Might be related but kinda doubting it to be fair.05:37
blue_iam unable to install ubuntu on 64 core workstation05:40
blue_ubuntu 12.0405:40
gabodhusfvfoisd05:40
gabohols05:40
mdkwlanIs a uefi machine?05:40
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david_L-1977hello fellas05:40
Guest22268hello05:40
blue_yes05:40
mdkwlanHello.05:40
Guest22268an espequin spanish05:40
blue_but nor does it work in legay mode05:41
cfhowlett!es|Guest22268,05:41
ubottuGuest22268,: En la mayoría de los canales de Ubuntu, se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español entre al canal #ubuntu-es; escriba "/join #ubuntu-es" (sin comillas) y presione intro.05:41
david_L-1977this channel's a mess... anyone know of a good english # where i might get some help setting up samba shares?05:41
blue_however ubuntu 11.10 doesget installed05:41
mdkwlan13.04 will install on uefi where 12.04 doesnt have it05:41
cfhowlett!samba|david_L-1977,05:41
ubottudavid_L-1977,: Samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT.05:41
blue_i tried 13.04 also05:42
xmetal!uefi05:42
ubottuUEFI is a specification that defines a software interface between an operating system and platform firmware, it is meant as a replacement for the BIOS. For information on how to set up and install Ubuntu and its derivatives on UEFI machines please read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI05:42
Guest22268Speak Spanish05:42
cfhowlett!es|Guest22268, this is an english channel.05:43
ubottuGuest22268, this is an english channel.: En la mayoría de los canales de Ubuntu, se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español entre al canal #ubuntu-es; escriba "/join #ubuntu-es" (sin comillas) y presione intro.05:43
mdkwlanUefi is the alternative to Bios05:43
Guest22268hello Speak Spanis05:43
Romancealternative to secure boot so no computer can do multi boot?05:43
mdkwlanSecure boot can be disabled on most computers05:44
jonrafkindI upgraded some package the other day and now notify-osd doesn't work anymore. 'notify-send test' does nothing. i see dbus sending the message to notify-osd and notify-osd will print some warning stuff when it receives the message, but no popup shows up. this worked a week ago..05:44
blue_how to send notify-send messages from terminal to gui05:44
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blue_i was looking for a way to notify gui users via notifications05:45
jonrafkindblue_, supposedly notify-send will do that05:46
blue_it gives some unable to open display erro05:46
jonrafkindare you running it as root?05:46
blue_when given from a terminal05:46
blue_yes05:46
jonrafkindtry running it as a normal user05:46
blue_tried both05:47
jonrafkinddunno05:47
panl第三05:47
blue_i have  an ubuntu system where in users login remotely graphically05:47
cfhowlett!cn|panl,05:47
ubottupanl,: 如欲獲得中文的協助,請輸入 /join #ubuntu-cn 或 /join #ubuntu-tw05:47
blue_i login to that system via putty session and try to send the notifications05:48
panl /join05:48
panl#ubuntu-cn05:48
tripelbhelp. I lost my mouse (pointer). what can I di?  12.04 gnoneclassic05:48
jonrafkindblue_, is notify-osd already running? I guess notify-send itself should not require a DISPLAY as it just sends a message over dbus05:48
blue_if you login physically in gui and send notification it is sent to all users05:49
blue_i want to send from remote ly via rerminal05:49
blue_yes it is running05:49
tripelbhelp. I lost my mouse (pointer). what can I DO?  12.04 gnoMe-classic05:50
blue_jonrafkind: i want the other users to display the it as a notification, not in their terminals05:50
cfhowlett!patience|tripelb,05:51
ubottutripelb,: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com/ or http://ubuntuforums.org/ or http://askubuntu.com/05:51
blue_tripelb : replace the mouse and check05:51
tripelbblue_ replace it? you mean unplug it and plug it back in? AND i disnt repat it. i had to correct ot drom What do I download to What do I do.05:53
tripelbcfhowlett: please see explaination to blue_ above. Apologies but repeat was needed because of error. (i respect the riles bit as it stood it was a dumb question)05:54
cfhowletttripelb, no problem.  I wish I could help.05:54
tripelbi respect the RUles bUT05:55
tripelbtypos run deep in this dwe05:55
tripelbphone05:55
jony_easyriderwhen I try to mount a network share which is specified in fstab, it gives me the following error: mount error(13): Permission denied05:57
tripelbcfhowlett: no mouse so what keystrokes will ahut me down nicely so I dont have to power off?05:58
cfhowlettrunlevel?05:58
cfhowlettinit 15 is the shutdown IIRC05:59
zykotick9jony_easyrider: network share = samba or nfs?05:59
tripelbcfhowlett: if you said "runlevwl" to me I do not understand05:59
blue_tripleb: For those with AMD/ATI cards, download and install the latest AMD Catalyst driver. The installer was all covered in black bars for me so I used the screenshots here: http://www.upubuntu.com/2011/12/how-to-install-amd-catalyst-1112-linux.html as a guide.05:59
blue_Once the installer finishes, run05:59
blue_sudo aticonfig --initial -f05:59
blue_and reboot. In my case, with the drivers and a xorg.conf file, I can finally see a cursor.05:59
FloodBot1blue_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.05:59
blue_hi06:00
tripelbblue_ that last you dirwcted to me06:00
jony_easyriderzykotick9, it's a windows 7 share06:00
zykotick9jony_easyrider: ummm.  well good luck.06:00
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jony_easyriderzykotick9, it worked PERFECTLY until I reinstalled Ubuntu06:01
tripelbblue_ that last you dirwcted to me ?  i think it was for someone elae. i juat want to know how to nocwly rwcover from a no-nouse aotuation06:01
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jony_easyriderwhen I try to mount a network share which is specified in fstab, it gives me the following error: mount error(13): Permission denied - PLEASE HELP!06:02
blue_please repeat/ lot of typos06:02
blue_what are these floodbots?06:03
blue_i am pretty new in xchat06:04
tozenblue_: robots06:04
blue_what are these robots doing here?06:05
blue_i want only humans06:05
blue_these robots are not giving me any solutions06:06
blue_is there a way to provide desktop notifications to ubuntu users from remote termials06:07
buujony_easyrider: Did you ever get the manual mount working?06:07
blue_just like a bradcast message06:07
jony_easyrideryes, and the data in fstab is OK, because I copy/pasted those lines from the old fstab06:09
jony_easyriderbuu, yes, and the data in fstab is OK, because I copy/pasted those lines from the old fstab06:10
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buujony_easyrider: So running sudo mount -t cifs...; works and gets you the mountpoint and the data, but sudo mount -a gives you an error? What does dmesg say after you run sudo mount -a?06:12
s2013anyone knows how to transfer files from your main comp to ubuntu on vm?06:13
gmilfSo I am trying to get audio out of my HDMI connection between my tv (insignia) and my computer (Ubuntu 13.04). I am getting video perfectly (as that's how I'm viewing this IRC) but I have no sound! I have gone through every troubleshooting tutorial on the first two pages of google as well as trying to alter my TV's settings. If anyone knows how to help that would be awesome06:13
s2013or if its even possible06:13
buus2013: Is the VM on the same machine?06:15
buus2013: What is the host os?06:16
Dr_Willisgmilf:  all i had to do on one pc was twiddle with the pavucontrol  tool. but its possible your hdmi sound out is not supported if you have tried  a lot of guides.06:17
s2013windows, same machine06:17
s2013windows 706:17
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Dr_Williss2013:  same as you would 2 'real' pcs on the same lan. via samba, scp, ssh, nfs, or other networking methods.06:18
Dr_Williss2013:  virtualbox has its own special vbox share you can setup also06:18
gmilfpavucontrol?06:19
s2013oh ok. thanks06:19
Dr_Willisgmilf:  i think thats the name . pulse audio voulme control06:19
gmilfit ran from terminal06:19
Dr_Willis!find pavucontrol06:19
ubottuFound: pavucontrol06:19
gmilfdon't know what to alter06:19
Dr_Willis!info pavucontrol06:19
ubottupavucontrol (source: pavucontrol): PulseAudio Volume Control. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0-1 (raring), package size 140 kB, installed size 953 kB06:19
Dr_Willisit has a lot of menus and settings.. i cant really tell what your setup is of guide you through it. I just had to select one of the hdmi outputs - i had like 3 on my ystem for some reason i recall06:20
Dr_Willisbut that was 2 releases ago. it works by defaunt these days06:20
gmilfI have no hdmi outputs06:20
Dr_Willisim suprised the guides you found dident mention it.06:20
gmilfI think they did, just really similar to system settings -> sound settings06:21
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gmilfno difference sound outputs06:21
Dr_Willissounds like the hdmi part of your sound system is not supported/seen then06:21
gmilfvideo is running fine06:22
gmilfand yeah that seems to be the problem06:22
Dr_Willisthat dosent mean the audio is obviously06:22
gmilfI have a linux mint livecd somewhere06:22
Dr_Willisthe sound card  is a little chip on the video card.06:22
gmilfthinking about trying to use it if it's not too scratched up06:22
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gmilfoic06:22
Dr_Willisid test out ubuntu 13.10 also06:22
gmilfi have the dumbs06:23
gmilf13.10? would i be able to upgrade w/o live cd (for linux mint i had to use dvd [I have neither dvd, nor cd])\06:23
gmilf:(06:24
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gmilf???06:25
Dr_WillisYou dont want to mix up differnt disrtos that way06:25
Dr_Willisand you can make a bootable install USB from the iso file if you wanted to install 13.1006:25
Dr_Willisor just use the bootable usb as a test  to see if sound works06:26
gmilfhow would the bootup menu read the iso file correctly?06:26
Dr_Willisit dosent by default. ;)06:26
Dr_WillisYou can edit your grub2 configs to boot an ISO file.06:26
gmilfanything complicated?06:26
Dr_Willistons of grub2 docs on doing that. easier to make a live usb06:26
gmilfok, well I might try to use linuxmint livecd just because i have that on hand. if that fails that i might wait until tomorrow so I can burn a diff livecd to dvd. Do you know if ubuntu is light enough to use just a basic cd?06:27
Dr_Willisubuntu dosnt fit on a cd.06:27
gmilfdvd it would be then...06:27
Dr_WillisI alwyas use USB's06:28
pleanbeanHey guys, I'm trying to make a new partition table on my drive with the Ubuntu installer, but its not letting me make a new partition table because its in use by a LVM volume06:28
gmilfwell aren't you fancy! thanks for the help, if linuxmint fails me, then I will start looking into usb s as livecds06:29
gmilfnn06:29
Dr_Willisfancy? I imagine the majority of installs are done from USB these days06:30
pleanbeanWhat can I do?06:32
comodo_dragon!lvm06:32
ubottuTips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SoftwareRAID and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO - For software RAID, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FakeRaidHowto06:32
Dr_Willishttp://askubuntu.com/questions/228136/how-to-remove-all-lvs-vgs-and-partitions-on-all-drives-before-installing-12-0406:34
swaagieso I'd fancy a 13.10 update since graphics are working out of the box for my laptop, however I just can06:34
Dr_Willisperhaos06:34
jony_easyriderbuu, pls help me how to mount manually this share specified in fstab: //192.168.10.8/Documentation_Server /mnt/docsrv01_Documentation_Server cifs noauto,iocharset=utf8,uid=jony,gid=users,credentials=/root/.cifscredentials,file_mode=0775,dir_mode=0775 0 006:34
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swaagiecant* get it installed on my gpt partitioned raid 0/efi boot, the installer keeps failing with error ??? ???06:34
buujony_easyrider: I told you yesterday06:35
jony_easyriderbuu, please help me, I'm speaking from my work computer, probably missed it06:36
user_hey so my livecd was 64 bit and my CPU is 32  bit, but I found out my bootup is already set to read usb livecds06:37
Dr_Willissudo mount -t cifs  //192.168.x.x/XXX  /mnt/XXX -o alltheoptionshere06:37
buujony_easyrider: run this: sudo mount -t cifs //192.168.10.8/Documentation_Server /mnt/docsrv01_Documentation_Server -o noauto -o credentials=/root/.cifscredentials06:37
user_do i need to install it on a thumb drive, or will my backup drive work well enough?06:37
buujony_easyrider: What does it output?06:37
Ben64jony_easyrider: why not "sudo mount -a"06:37
Dr_Willisuser_:  you dont run a 64bit OS/cd on a 32bit cpu.06:37
user_yeah i know06:38
user_i just learned that06:38
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jony_easyriderbuu, mount error(13): Permission denied06:38
jony_easyriderRefer to the mount.cifs(8) manual page (e.g. man mount.cifs)06:38
user_so i need to make new livecd06:38
jony_easyriderbuu, same error06:38
Dr_Willisjony_easyrider:  whats the exact command you are using?06:38
user_I'm just wondering if it's possible to use my backup external harddrive as a livecd, by putting to iso file on there, wouldn't the rest of the files make it so it doesn't recognize the .iso right away?06:39
pleanbeancomodo_dragon, can you walk me through this?06:39
buujony_easyrider: what does sudo ls -l /root/.cifscredentials; return?06:39
jony_easyriderDr_Willis, sudo mount /mnt/docsrv01_Documentation_Server06:39
Dr_Willisuser_:  you dont just copy an iso file to a drive. you have to use special tools to make the drive bootable.06:39
comodo_dragonplease read the documentation06:39
jony_easyriderbuu, -r-------- 1 root root 37 Oct  2 08:31 /root/.cifscredentials06:39
user_darn, well back to researching/learning i guess06:39
user_thnx06:39
buujony_easyrider: Can you paste the last 10 lines of dmesg to a paste site?06:40
VenorykHey guys.. having a bit of an issue getting a bash script to behave as desired. Anybody able to assist?06:40
Dr_Willisgive us details and see who knows wht.06:41
VenorykI'm attempting to make a Post-Install script for Ubuntu 13.04. Part of what I want the script to do is install aria2c and apt-fast then create ~/.bash_aliases linking wget=aria2c apt-get=apt-fast.06:42
jony_easyriderbuu, http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/6208136/06:42
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VenorykI'm wanting it to check if tehre is already ~/.bash_aliases and if so are those aliases listed. If not, add the missing aliases06:43
VenorykHowever, when I run grep -q "alias wget='aria2c'" 'apt-get='apt-fast'" else printf ..... if any of the aliases are listed it just stops there and echos aliases in place even if all of them are not listed06:44
buuVenoryk: use perl for god's sake06:45
Dr_Willisor just have your .bash_aliases set some variable, and let your script check that if that has been set or not.06:45
buujony_easyrider: your credentials in the file are incorrect06:45
Venorykbuu, I have no experience with perl and limited experience running linux trying to learn how to make the bash script do what I want then move onto the more complex stuff lol06:46
karthuslibghc-xmonad-dev fails to install on precise with a bunch of nonexistent deps, this bug claims it's fixed https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xmonad/+bug/95500006:46
ubottuUbuntu bug 955000 in xmonad (Ubuntu) "libghc-xmonad-dev depends on non-existent packages on Precise" [Undecided,Fix released]06:46
karthusanyone have experience with this?06:47
jony_easyriderbuu, in the cifscredentials file I have two lines: username=jony password=sharespassword06:47
Dr_WillisVenoryk:  why is this even an issue? normally that alias file gets 'sourced' once when the user logs in. and thats it.  not much reason to be checking, if you think they are getting skipped , source it again06:48
buujony_easyrider: Well, they are't working06:48
buujony_easyrider: try this: smbclient -L //192.168.10.806:49
VenorykThe way that I have it set up right now is if file exists then check for these aliases if all present echo aliases in place else add missing aliases otherwise create file and add aliases then source the file and continue running the rest of the install script to install my desired applications06:49
karthusI tried switching my mirrors around in hopes of getting a more up to date one but it did not seem to help06:49
Dr_WillisVenoryk:  so you are generating your own custome .bash_alias file and want to not overrite any alias's athat exist in the file to begin with.06:49
makarawhen I click a link in Thunderbird, it freezes up and takes about 20secs to load in Firefox before resuming. Why?06:50
Dr_Williskarthus:  all mirrors should have the same version.  fix-released  - doswent mean the fix has been pushed to the repos - but should be 'soon' ;)06:50
pleanbeanI'm an absolute noob with Unix, can someone walk me through repartitioning my hard drive in Terminal?06:51
jony_easyriderbuu, Called name not present06:51
VenorykDr_Willis: not really to overwrite, but add to the end if the bash_alias file exists already. So that in the future I can type wget and it will run arias2c instead and also run those aliases throughout the entirety of my install script06:51
Dr_Willispleanbean:  id have to suggest checking out some fdisk  or cfdisk tutorials on youtube, or practice in virtualbox first.06:51
buujony_easyrider: er06:51
Dr_Willispleanbean:  fdisk is fairly straight forward. as is cfdisk. but it takes some learning of how their interface works.06:52
jony_easyriderbuu, but if I logon with a file manager, it work with that user and its password06:52
pleanbeanDr_Willis, thanks for the suggestion, and I will, but first I want to set up my system first before I delve into it06:52
Dr_Willispleanbean:  easier would be to use gparted from a live cd06:52
buujony_easyrider: From the same machine?06:52
pleanbeanDr_Willis, I'm trying to use gparted but I'm lost with handling LVM06:52
Dr_Willisthe installer has a gui to partion the disks also06:52
VenorykDr_Willis, exactly.. I don't want to wipe out the file if it already exists only modify it so that if I run this install script on a system that already has a .bash_aliases file in place it will just be amended.06:52
Dr_Willispleanbean:  and why do you think cli tools wont have  the same issue?06:53
jony_easyriderbuu, look here, pasted from Krusader: smb://jony@192.168.10.8/Documentation_Server06:53
pleanbeanWhat are cli tools?06:53
Dr_Willispleanbean:  fdisk, cfdisk, parted06:53
Dr_Willis!terminal06:53
ubottuThe linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome), K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE), or Menu -> Accessories -> LXTerminal (LXDE). Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal06:53
aboudeahi06:53
comodo_dragonmyrttti06:54
Dr_Willis'C'ommand 'L'ine 'I'nterface06:54
bazhangcomodo_dragon, whats the issue06:54
comodo_dragonjust chillin`06:54
comodo_dragonbro06:54
bazhangcomodo_dragon, this is NOT the chat channel06:54
Dr_Willispleanbean:  classic fdisk docs ->  http://tldp.org/HOWTO/Partition/fdisk_partitioning.html06:55
vijaya_I have followed the steps described in the following link but after running the ./demo-arm.sh script the binaries are not created in the directory, how to get the binaries properly06:55
vijaya_ http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/MythTV_On_NSLU2#Compilation_on_the_slug06:55
vijaya_how to get binaries.???06:55
VenorykDr_Willis: My desire is to be able to go from a base install to a complete setup just from running my script. However, my problem arises in that when I run the grep command if it finds even 1 of the aliases in the .bash_aliases file it will not add the other required aliases. How could I get it to work as desired without having to search for and add each line individually?06:55
Dr_Willisvijaya_:  :) a nslu2 - golly i got one of those.. in a closet somewhere..06:56
lilkilihi06:56
comodo_dragonwhy NOT ?06:56
lilkiliI'eve use "startup disk creator" and format the wrong partition, how to get back?06:56
vijaya_Dr-Willis: then how can I proceed??06:56
bazhang!ot | comodo_dragon06:56
ubottucomodo_dragon: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!06:56
lilkiliI've used the "erase disk" option06:56
Dr_WillisVenoryk: No idea. for massive text manipulation and parseing. i imagine perl, python, or some other languge would be much easier then in bash.06:57
comodo_dragon!guidelines06:57
ubottuThe guidelines for using the Ubuntu channels can be found here: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines06:57
buujony_easyrider: Was that the entire output of smbclient -L ... ?06:57
Dr_Willisvijaya_:  no idea. Id frogotten i even had the nslu2.  I havent seen it in years.06:57
vijaya_I followed the steps properly eventhough binaries are not created...06:58
VenorykDr_Willis: If I had any programming experience I would probably agree. However, I'm just trying to piece it together as I go *chuckles* Code makes my eyes cross.06:58
Dr_WillisVenoryk:  you may want to start with an easier project then.06:58
jony_easyriderbuu, http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/6208189/06:58
pleanbeanDr_Willis, I just want to make a new partition table on the drive, how do I do that?06:58
Dr_WillisVenoryk:  ive been playign with my Raspbnerry pies06:58
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Dr_Willispleanbean:  in fdisk. N)ew  P)rimary   Tell it the # to use.    , set the T)ype    then W)rite change to disk06:59
Dr_Willisyou have to tell it the size also. :) somewhere in there06:59
lilkiliI'eve use "startup disk creator" and format the wrong partition, how to get back?06:59
vijaya_Dr_Willis: I am just trying to use that source for arm06:59
VenorykDr_Willis: I have my entire script set up and it works well save for this one issue. I was required to take a basic intro to programming course in college, but I've long since forgotten what I learned about python06:59
Dr_Willispleanbean:  that url i gave gives an eample session of them partioning hdb06:59
karthusDr_Willis, well that issue was from 2012 I believe07:00
buujony_easyrider: That command is prompting you for a password right, and its using the right username?07:00
jony_easyriderbuu, yes07:00
Dr_WillisVenoryk:  i took classes in FORTRAN. ;) then learned REXX.  then i moved to Perl. i dont do much python.07:00
buujony_easyrider: Do you have a workgroup name?07:01
pleanbeanDr_Willis: "Warning: GPT detected. The until frisk doesn't support GPT. Use GNU Parted"?07:01
jony_easyrideryes07:01
buuor smb domain or something07:01
jony_easyriderbuu, yes07:01
buujony_easyrider: What is it?07:01
Dr_WillisBash i just pick up bits and peices from the ABS guide07:01
jony_easyriderDEVELOP07:01
jony_easyriderbuu, DEVELOP07:01
Dr_Willispleanbean:  yep fdisk is getting old.. best to use parted as it suggests07:01
buujony_easyrider: can you add -W DEVELOP to the previous -L command and try again?07:01
VenorykDr_Willis, Surely a simple comparison like that could be done from a bash script. I just haven't found out how yet *chuckles* I mean, I could very well eliminate it checking for the aliases and just write to the file anyhow, but I think that would be sloppy07:02
Dr_WillisVenoryk:  bash id not really designed for  working with text like  other languages.. what if the alias's case differ. :) what to do then.07:02
Dr_WillisI alwyas make my alias's with a UPPER case Letter normally.07:03
Dr_Willisbut i also tend to cheat and use simple scripts a lot in my ~/.bin07:03
vijaya_anyone is having idea about mythtv compilation for arm...07:04
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VenorykDr_Willis: That's why i'm starting to believe that I need to put it into an array and with Linux being case sensitive anyhow wouldn't Apt-get differ from apt-get anyhow?07:04
pleanbeanDr_Willis, reading about parted, how do I simply make a new partition table on the drive? All I can see is ways to change partitions already on the drive07:05
Dr_Willisvijaya_:  theres the #mythtv channel also.07:05
buujony_easyrider: If that still doesn't work can you try: nmblookup -A 192.168.10.807:05
SkilzDCC SEND 0001011100111100101010110100010101000101010101010010110101010101111100001101010010101110001010101010010101001010101001010101010101010101010100101011101001001001010101001101011111100000010101100010101010010010011010101001010001010010100010101001101101100001100010101001011110010100101101010101001010101001010100101010010100100101010101001010111100100110000000010110000000101101100100107:06
Dr_Willispleanbean:  no idea. id have to read the docs and find a guide. I rarely use the tool.  its normally used by other partioning tools  to do the work07:06
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buulol07:06
pleanbeanDr_Willis, can you help me do this in GParted then?07:06
Dr_Willispleanbean:  in gparted you just click and delete, or make new.. its not that complex. I dont know what your Core issue is with LVM is. I never use lvm07:06
* wylde mutters *script kiddies* :|07:07
Dr_Willis http://www.dedoimedo.com/computers/gparted.html   GParted partitioning software - Full tutorial07:07
VenorykDr_Willis: Cause I have read that you can put the stuff into an array and process each one individually and give you the option to add it or not.. I'm just not sure how to go about it.07:08
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jony_easyriderbuu, http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/6208205/07:09
Dr_Willispleanbean:  this url - says use lvmscan and lvmremove commands..07:09
Dr_Willishttp://askubuntu.com/questions/217571/cant-format-delete-locked-partition-from-gparted07:09
buujony_easyrider: smbclient -L DEVELOP -I 192.168.10.8 -U jony07:10
VenorykDr_Willis: Similar to http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2149362&s=51f9de93f0faf64826c79d7a896512cd&p=12667556#post12667556 is what I'm thinking but having it search for the string in the file and if not found add it.07:10
SupaSolhello07:11
pleanbeanDr_Willis, that worked. Thanks!07:11
Dr_Willispleanbean:  and all i did was search on askubuntu.com for 'gparted remove lvm'  ;)07:12
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pleanbeanIll do that next time haha I'm pretty helpless07:12
Dr_Willisnow ive doubled my lvm knowledge.. from 0 commands to 2 commands.07:12
Dr_Willisredhat  and fedora by default use lvm i recall07:13
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Dr_Willishmm.. the 'accepted answer' at that askubuntu.com question.. dosent answer the wuestion and gives no fix at all. ;P07:13
lilkiliis there a way to recover files from formated partition?07:14
bazhang!undelete | lilkili07:15
ubottulilkili: Some tools to recover lost data are listed and explained at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DataRecovery - Recovering deleted files on !ext3 filesystems can be virtually impossible, although methods that might work is some cases are described at at http://www.xs4all.nl/~carlo17/howto/undelete_ext3.html and http://projects.izzysoft.de/trac/ext3undel07:15
Dr_Willis!testdisk07:15
Dr_Willisthres some tools to try to recover photos i recall also07:15
Dr_Willis!info photorec07:15
ubottuPackage photorec does not exist in raring07:15
Dr_Willis!find photorec07:15
ubottuFile photorec found in testdisk, testdisk-dbg07:16
lilkilithx Willis, I'll try testdisk07:16
Dr_Willisits very likely you wont be ble to recover much.. but you Might get lucky07:16
lilkili<Dr_Willis> I've formated a 500HG drive, I'm so mad lol07:17
Dr_Willishttp://serversignature.com/serversignature/docs/html/photorec.html07:17
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lilkilithx I'll try that too07:17
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lilkiliwow07:17
FloodBot1!netsplit07:17
ubottunetsplit is when two IRC servers of the same network (like freenode) disconnect from each other, so users on one server stop seeing users on the other. If this is happening now, just relax and enjoy the show. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netsplit07:17
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lilkiliso much quit lol07:18
Dr_Willisand you lost all minecraft stuff ;)07:18
Dr_Willisyep. net splitted  just a little07:18
jony_easyriderbuu, http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/6208239/07:20
qbikHi there!07:26
TheRiddlaheya mongrel07:26
jony_easyriderbuu, are U here :) ?07:28
buujony_easyrider: I've run out of brilliant ideas07:29
buujony_easyrider: try different names other than DEVELOP?07:29
anternat-hello, i can ssh to my server fi,ne from within lan but not wan, i got a hostname from dyndns , made router changes where necessary, but when i connect from internet ip there s no way i can get rid of that "access denied" error with my correct password07:29
jony_easyriderbuu, I tell U, this worked fine until I reinstalled ubuntu07:29
anternat-any suggestions07:30
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buujony_easyrider: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-2126053.html07:31
buujony_easyrider: look at the last post07:32
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Abbas-when i do ./configure in a /src directory in shell, it says permission denied07:35
Abbas-when i do sudo ./configure, it says command not found07:36
Abbas-who do i run the ./configure command?07:36
SwedeMikeAbbas-: chmod +x ./configure and try again07:36
Abbas-thank you SwedeMike :)07:38
buujony_easyrider: does smbclient //192.168.10.8/Documentation_Server07:40
buujony_easyrider: Do anything useful?07:40
comodo_dragon!smb07:41
ubottuSamba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT.07:41
comodo_dragonSWAT interesting. USA SWAT I assume.07:42
jony_easyriderbuu, http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/6208299/07:42
buuLIFE IS PAIN.07:43
buujony_easyrider: Did you change that conf file?07:43
jony_easyriderbuu, no07:43
comodo_dragonbocaneri is abusing his ops in linux channel. he banned me because i proved him wrong.07:43
buujony_easyrider: Well, do it07:44
jony_easyriderbuu, what to change?07:44
auronandacecomodo_dragon: that has nothing to do with this channel, complain to #freenode07:44
buujony_easyrider: does dpkg -l | grep windbind a package?07:45
buujony_easyrider: Do you have a /etc/nsswitch.conf file?07:45
buujony_easyrider: Change the hosts line to hosts: files wins dns07:45
buu*does dpkg -l | grep winbind; show a package07:46
comodo_dragonbocaneri07:47
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aboudeaيالكلاب07:56
comodo_dragonbocaneri07:57
jony_easyriderbuu, I have others too on that line, delete those?07:57
Caelumis there an ubuntu dev channel somewhere?07:58
fidelaboudea: i doubt someone inhere can read/interpret your input. besides: channel is english only. what language do you speak?07:58
DJonesCaelum: Possibly #ubuntu-dev may be the right channel07:58
CaelumI just checked, no one there07:58
cfhowlettCaelum, probably they're all in the bunker ramping up to release 13.1008:00
anternat-..08:01
PriceyCaelum: #ubuntu-devel... but why're you asking? What's the real question?08:01
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CaelumPricey: the real question is what is the dev channel, duh08:03
CaelumPricey: thanks08:03
buuJoeyJoeJo: What's the stuff there already?08:03
anternati cannot login to my ubuntuserver 12.04 via ssh from wan,port forwarded and  did most. alwways "  access denied" what must i do08:04
comodo_dragonkeys08:04
alunowazzap08:04
comodo_dragon!ssh08:04
ubottuSSH is the Secure SHell protocol, see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSH for client usage. PuTTY is an SSH client for Windows; see: http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/ for it's homepage. See also !scp (Secure CoPy) and !sshd (Secure SHell Daemon)08:04
anternati use a host name and not an IP (host name from dyn)08:05
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Leo89@anternat......Im no pro, but make sure the remote server allows all ssh connection (the server Im working on can only be accessed from my lab IP....I cant connect to it from home)08:07
comodo_dragonbocaneri08:08
cfhowlettcomodo_dragon, stop it.08:09
Leo89have fun guys08:09
DJonescomodo_dragon: Stop that, this is not the place for issues regarding other channels08:09
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vadi_hey all08:12
vadi_i'm just testing chatX IRC08:12
cfhowlett!test|vadi_,08:13
ubottuvadi_,: Testing... Testing... 1. 2.. 3... ( by the way, remember that you can use /join #test )08:13
vadi_could some1 pls respond if my messages are visible08:13
vadi_thx!08:13
DJonesvadi_: Sure are08:13
ActionParsnipvadi_: you are seen08:13
vadi_thank you guys, im glad!08:13
jony_easyriderbuu, I changed the username on the target machine, but same issue :((08:20
delinquentmeif [ ! -f /usr/lib/libSPAM.so ]08:25
delinquentmeif [ ! -f /usr/lib/libSPAM.so ]08:25
delinquentmewhat exactly is this checking for??08:25
PriceChild./topic08:28
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buujony_easyrider: did you add wins to that config file?08:33
jony_easyrideryes08:33
jony_easyriderbuu, yes08:33
buuGot me dude08:33
SANKAKUBonjour08:34
sam113101!fr | SANKAKU08:34
ubottuSANKAKU: Nous sommes desoles mais ce canal est en anglais uniquement. Si vous avez besoin d'aide ou voulez discuter en français, veuillez taper /join #ubuntu-fr ou /join #ubuntu-qc. Merci.08:34
SANKAKUthank you08:35
bluenemohi guys. i'm trying to setup openstack on a few old servers for testing and evaluation. i'm trying to get maas running with it. the servers are all already running 13.04. i can add new nodes but there status is "Failed Tests". Is there a howto to add existing installations to maas?08:36
cfhowlett!ubuntu-server|bluenemo, they'd know08:37
ubottubluenemo, they'd know: Ubuntu Server Edition is a release of Ubuntu designed especially for server environments, including a server specific !kernel and no !GUI. The install CD contains many server applications. Current !LTS version is !Precise (Precise Pangolin 12.04) - More info: http://www.ubuntu.com/products/whatisubuntu/serveredition - Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/serverguide/C/ - Support in #ubuntu-server08:37
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bluenemocfhowlett, thx08:40
owennHello all. Just deleted my windows partition from my dual/now single boot. But of course windows wasnt going to make it easy, it took the master boot with it. Now I am using a Linux mint live DVD. How do I install grub to the MBR from this live DVD? I dont want to bork this up even more than I already have done.08:41
cfhowlett!mint|owenn,08:41
ubottuowenn,: Linux Mint is not a supported derivative of Ubuntu. Please seek support in #linuxmint-help on irc.spotchat.org08:41
owennIm here because I cannot get into my Ubuntu!!!08:41
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cfhowlettowenn, "Now I'm using Linux Mint live DVD" ...08:42
owennId use an ubuntu if I had one lying around. Surely I can use this live dvd to get grub working so I can get back to my UBUNTU!!!08:42
k1lowenn: use boot-repair. but i dont know if mint is shipping that08:44
Ben64deleting windows doesn't mess up ubuntu, unless you were using wubi08:44
k1lBen64: ah yes, that is a good point.08:44
owennk1l> Thanks.08:45
* cfhowlett ... so wubi, we meet again ...08:45
owennNo not using wubi08:45
owennI deleted the windows partition and its hidden package that contains the reinstalls. I musted have taken out the MBR too..08:46
Ben64that doesn't happen08:46
cfhowlettowenn, did you use the windows installer?08:47
delinquentmecan someone give me their output for echo JAVA_HOME08:47
ikoniadelinquentme: why ?08:47
delinquentmecan someone give me their output for echo $JAVA_HOME ****08:47
owennNo it was pre-installed on the device, when I got it. The usual thing with 90% of hardware these days.08:48
anternatrocketeer08:48
Dai_1987delinquentme: blank08:48
delinquentmeikonia, i think I have things misinstalled :P08:48
anternati have news :(08:48
ikoniadelinquentme: so someone else's won't matter, you need a correct setting for your enviornment08:48
owennIsnt there a grub boot cd or DVD, that I could use to boot up my Ubuntu and then do the repair from there?08:50
Ben64owenn: you still haven't explained how deleting windows' partition got rid of grub, thats probably not the issue here08:51
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owenngparted08:52
Ben64gparted is a program, yes08:52
owenndelete the windows partition, then created a new ext4 partition. Reboot and blank screen!08:52
k1lhttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair  owenn08:52
Ben64none of that messes with grub08:53
owennthe partition that my Ubuntu resides on is there08:53
cfhowlettowenn, yes, but the MBR doesn't.08:54
owennexactly08:54
owennso I have to tell the MBR to boot my Ubuntu08:54
Ben64but it already was booting ubuntu before....08:55
owennIt was dual boot before.08:55
Ben64ok?08:55
cfhowlettowenn, well, you could try booting the ubuntu mbr and restoring grub from there.  but since you don't have the ubuntu ISO ....08:55
Ben64grub doesn't care if you get rid of a partition08:55
Ben64unless that partition contains grub, which the windows partition wouldn't08:55
owennI have an Ubuntu minimal install, net installer. Would that do?08:56
cfhowlett!grub|owenn, try.  I don't know if grub is on the mini iso08:56
ubottuowenn, try.  I don't know if grub is on the mini iso: GRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub208:56
Ben64its still probably not grub, pastebin some stuff.... "sudo parted -l" "sudo dd if=/dev/sda | file"08:56
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metodizeHello, is there a possible way around using 'nomodeset' to get my screen to work after an install? It's keeping radeon drivers from loading, according to my Xorg.0.log, by disabling KMS. Any ideas?09:04
jony_easyriderbuu, I don't get it: on 32 bit Ubuntu worked well, but since I'm using the 64 bit version, it just won't work09:04
ActionParsnipmathfreak: which radeon gpu are you using?09:05
ActionParsnipjony_easyrider: what is 'it'?09:06
metodizeR730 i think, it's and HD 465009:06
metodizean*09:06
ActionParsnipmetodize: thanks, and what is the output of:  cat /etc/issue09:06
metodizeActionParsnip,  one sec, and thanks09:07
metodizeUbuntu 13.04 \n \l09:07
owennThanks everyone for advice. Found an old Ubuntu USB install to boot from. Maybe I can do it from this instead...09:07
ActionParsnipmetodize: https://launchpad.net/~makson96/+archive/fglrx09:07
lesshastehow do you bookmark a page in chromium?09:08
lesshasteI realise this sounds like a very simple question :)09:08
lesshastebut I can't see it09:08
gulag2013the star09:08
gulag2013on the url bar09:08
k1llesshaste: ctrl+d09:09
lesshastegulag2013, thanks!!09:09
lesshasteI had no idea09:09
lesshastek1l, thanks09:09
gulag2013I answered something today . Where are those cookies.09:10
AdityaRajhi guys09:10
AdityaRajI want to make a bootable setup usb for windows xp using my ubuntu system09:11
AdityaRajwhat can I use to do this? I am trying the pre installed startup disk creator but that is not allowing me to select and windows iso09:11
gulag2013Bootable from the flash drive? I'm  not sure that can be done.09:11
k1lAdityaRaj: windows got own tools now to make a usb stick.09:11
metodizeActionParsnip, ah yes,  i just finished messing around with that one and while it did work  it wouldn't give the full resolution, andi couldn't set it through xrandr or the autostart file09:12
tdnHow do I get the Simple Scan program to work with my new HP LaserJet Pro 200 Color MFP printer (M276nw)? I have already installed hplip, however, Simple Scan says no scanner device was found.09:12
AdityaRajbut i am not running windows on any of my systems09:12
metodizei was hoping that i could somehow get the radeon driver to work09:12
AdityaRajk1l, can u suggest any such software please09:12
gulag2013AdityaRaj, You can make a bootable install of XP is that what you meant?09:13
AdityaRajgulag2013, yes09:13
wk-workanyone else getting a lot of 404s from launchpad.net ?09:14
gulag2013Ahh, okay you need to Google or Youtube "Diskpart" that well guide you through that.09:14
gulag2013Oh sorry, you are not running Windows09:14
wk-workhttp://ppa.launchpad.net/ubuntu-wine/ppa/ubuntu/dists/wheezy/main/binary-amd64/Packages <- giving a 404 for anyone else?09:15
k1lwk-work: wheezy?09:15
Ben64wk-work: ubuntu wine wheezy? you have a lot of problems going on there, i suggest you fix that09:15
wk-workoh not again09:16
wk-workdist-upgrade broke my stuff once again!09:16
gordonjcpwk-work: what did it break, and how?09:16
fidelgfx-driver?09:16
cfhowlett!wheezy09:16
AdityaRajgulag2013, yeah but there is a pc in my home with windwos running on it.. its an effort and would like to do it on ubuntu itself but if there is no other option then i will use windows09:16
Ben64wk-work: no, that was you that broke it09:16
wk-workgordonjcp: I'm not running wheezy.09:17
k1lAdityaRaj: for winxp serach for bart-pe . for newer windows versions search for the microsoft tool, but that is all more a topic for ##windows since its not ubuntu specific09:18
gulag2013AdityaRaj, I'm in the middle of searching for you. I would like to know how to do that myself.09:18
scruzhello.09:19
cfhowlettscruz, greetings09:19
scruzis there a way to have a local cache of packages? i'm bandwidth-challenged and it will make sense to cache packages for my ubuntu vms09:19
* scruz doffs hat to cfhowlett 09:20
cfhowlettScreedo, of course.  YOu can make your own mirro09:20
cfhowlett!mirror09:20
ubottuUbuntu installation CDs can be downloaded from http://releases.ubuntu.com - Mirrors can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Mirrors - PLEASE use the !torrents to download !Raring, and help keeping the servers' load low!09:20
cfhowlettscruz, hmm.   wrong factoid09:20
scruzcfhowlett: complete newbie here.09:20
cfhowlettscruz, so you maintaining multiple machines?09:21
scruzi plan to.09:21
scruzvagrant vms09:21
cfhowlettscruz, see    http://askubuntu.com/questions/170348/how-to-make-my-own-local-repository09:22
scruzthank you kindly.09:22
zwamkatCrew, I want to mount two Windows shares, each on it's own mount point. Both are served from the same windows server. Any hints?09:22
d1rkp1ttHi all, I am running apache on a server and I have locked down the directory... so I cannot CD into it... but just wondering how to run the following command from its parent directory... sudo rm apache2/*.gz09:22
scruzcould you also refer me to a resource to become competent in (POSIX) shell?09:22
AdityaRajgulag2013, thanks.. really appreciate it :)09:22
d1rkp1ttAt the moment I get no such file or directory09:23
* scruz was primarily raised on Windows.09:23
d1rkp1ttSo its considering my wildcard as part of the file name I think09:23
d1rkp1ttmaybe I want to be in #bash09:23
gordonjcpwk-work: that's nice, but it's not what I asked09:24
gulag2013AdityaRaj, no problem. Give me a min09:24
cfhowlettd1rkp1tt, or in #ubuntu-server09:24
gordonjcp!fstab | zwamkat09:25
ubottuzwamkat: The /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Fstab and http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions09:25
wk-workgordonjcp: sorry, I got my distros confused, I completely forgot I changed distro this morning09:25
wk-workworld without coffee09:25
gordonjcpwk-work: stop immediately09:25
d1rkp1ttcfhowlett, cheers09:25
gulag2013AdityaRaj, Unetbootin should work. http://www.webupd8.org/2010/10/create-bootable-windows-7-usb-drive.html09:25
gordonjcpwk-work: get a coffee09:25
cfhowlettd1rkp1tt, good luck09:25
gordonjcpwk-work: go for a walk outside for ten minutes09:25
zwamkatgordonjcp: I've got the fstab syntax down. Cheers. The trick is *two* shares, same server, one mount point each.09:28
zwamkat!Partitions09:28
ubottuFor help with partitioning a new install see: https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/installation-guide/i386/partitioning.html - For partitioning programs see !GParted, !QtParted (!Kubuntu 8.10 and lower) or !PartitionManager (!Kubuntu 9.04 and up) - Other partitioning topics include !fstab !home and !swap09:28
gulag2013AdityaRaj, sudo apt-get install unetbootin  follow the instruction on the link09:30
metodizeis there anything other than using 'nomodeset'   after  a fresh install to  get videocard to display again?09:31
nightdreverhow do i fix Error: Dependency is not satisfiable: libX11-6 ???09:33
k1lnightdrever: remove the PPAs that have unment depencies?09:34
nightdreverhow do i do that sorry im a noob09:34
gulag2013nightdrever, have you tried using synaptic to install your package. It usually solves my dependency  issues automatically.09:35
nightdreverits scidb09:35
nightdreverand i downloaded it from site as not in synaptic etc09:36
gulag2013Well, you could use synaptic to search out the files that is claiming you are missing. Not sure09:37
scruzthanks, cfhowlett09:38
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wk-workaaand i'm back, with coffee.09:39
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sharpshooterhi friends, my shell is zsh and when I'm trying to install intel ipwraw driver in my system but it throws an error $SHELL not set to bash09:40
Rorynightdrever: Can you try running: "sudo apt-get -f install"09:40
sharpshootermy problem is i cant able to switch back to bash09:41
Rorynightdrever: This will automatically install missing dependencies - installing a package manually doesn't resolve dependencies, that's what apt-get is for09:41
Rorysharpshooter: You could trick it by running "SHELL=bash commands..."09:41
nightdrever0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.09:42
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Rorysharpshooter: or just run the "bash" command to actually be in bash, and then do it09:42
Rorynightdrever: Can you please put the command you run to produce the error, along with the full error output, onto http://paste.ubuntu.com and then put the resulting URL in channel09:42
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nightdreverRory its a deb file i try to install09:43
sharpshooterRory, i tryied bash and it switched the commands and layout like bash but  when I echo $SHELL it is same zsh shell09:43
nightdreverError: Dependency is not satisfiable: libX11-609:43
chathurahow can I connect to same session via xrdp09:46
chathurawhen I connect to my pc it gives new session09:46
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dsatheI just did a fresh of win8.1 on my ssd09:51
dsathei have a f4ree partition on it and want to install ubuntu09:51
dsathebut the intsaller does not detect the partition table on that disk09:51
dsathewin8 is not in efi09:51
dsathesomeone please help09:51
dsathethe disk utility detects it properly so does blkid09:52
sharpshooterRory, When I used to change the shell by sudo chsh -s `which zsh` username i got an error chsh: PAM: Authentication failure09:52
cfhowlettdsathe, win 8 is supported in ##windows09:53
dsathecfhowlett: course i know09:53
dsathei want to dual boot09:53
cfhowlett!uefi|dsathe, but to install ubuntu09:53
ubottudsathe, but to install ubuntu: UEFI is a specification that defines a software interface between an operating system and platform firmware, it is meant as a replacement for the BIOS. For information on how to set up and install Ubuntu and its derivatives on UEFI machines please read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI09:53
gulag2013dsathe, the best thing I can think of is not to give one a your partitions a file system and see if The ubuntu cd displays the free space to install.09:54
dsathecfhowlett: yes i have free space on the ssd , i have a secondary data drive which is a standard sata hdd09:54
dsatheno that is the issue it does not09:54
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dsathediskutility and fdisk do09:54
dsatheis there a way to specify the target partition as a command line arg09:55
gulag2013I have no experience with that. You are sure you did format the other 3 partitions with Fat or Ntfs?09:56
gulag2013did not09:56
gulag2013Are you installing it from the cd as your bootdrive or from Wubi?09:57
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Rorynightdrever: Can you please put the command you run to produce the error, along with the full error output, onto http://paste.ubuntu.com and then put the resulting URL in channel09:59
Rorysharpshooter: you don't want "sudo"10:00
nightdreverRory Error: Dependency is not satisfiable: libX11-6 is the only error i get10:00
nightdreverso i cant install the package10:01
Ben64then you probably shouldn't install it10:01
Rorynightdrever: I won't ask again: Can you please *put the command you run to produce the error* , along with *the full error output*, onto http://paste.ubuntu.com and then put the resulting URL in channel10:01
Rorynightdrever: Also what Ubuntu version are you using?10:01
Rorynightdrever: I'm asking because running "apt-get -f install" didn't work for you and I'm trying to work out why10:02
calimero_82hey guys10:02
Roryhello calimero_8210:02
nightdreverhttp://pastebin.com/XpsDdhwU10:03
Rorynightdrever: Can you please run the command: sudo dpkg -i name_of_file.deb10:03
Rorynightdrever: Actually wait What are you trying to install?10:03
ActionParsnipnightdrever: also add the output of:  cat /etc/issue10:03
Rorynightdrever: scidb?10:03
Rory!info scidb10:03
ubottuPackage scidb does not exist in raring10:03
k1lnightdrever: what file is that exact? and why dont you use the ubuntu repos?10:04
calimero_82boys at the start of ubuntu came out a message before it came out of the screen identification, what is?10:04
nightdreverits a chess database program10:04
nightdreverand its not in the repos10:04
gulag2013Rory, what does the -f switch do before install?10:04
gordonjcpzwamkat: so, add both shares to fstab...10:04
Roryk1l: It's not in the repos but they have very clear and concise installatio instructions on their website10:04
calimero_82i've ubuntu 12.0410:04
ActionParsnipgulag2013: fix10:04
Rorygulag2013: This will automatically install missing dependencies - installing a package manually doesn't resolve dependencies, that's what apt-get is for10:04
gulag2013Great, thank you10:05
ActionParsnipgulag2013: man apt-get10:05
Rorycalimero_82: Is English your native language?10:05
sharpshooterRory, but with out sudo there is nothing happening after I type the password10:05
calimero_82no italian10:05
Rorysharpshooter: That means it worked10:05
sharpshooterRory, no change in $SHELL10:05
gulag2013Yes, I did man install10:05
Rorysharpshooter: Oh10:05
Rorynightdrever: The instructions are here http://scidb.sourceforge.net/download.html10:05
calimero_82Rory:  i'ven't explain good?10:05
Rorycalimero_82: If you're getting an error, you should let us know what message you are seeing10:06
Rorycalimero_82: You should also let us know what Ubuntu version you're using10:06
sharpshooterRory, after the chsh -s to  bash in my username the $SHELL still is same10:07
sharpshooterwhat I need to do10:07
nightdreverthanks ROry for some reason it installed with sudo dpkg -i scidb-beta_1.0-r960_amd64.deb10:07
sharpshooterRory,  Do I want to restart the system ?10:07
calimero_82Rory: 12.0410:07
ActionParsnipsharpshooter: sudo doesnt give feedback as you type, just type your pass as if it were and hit ENTER10:07
nightdreverbut didnt work by double clicking deb file10:07
kali_eskrimahi is this ubuntu for beginners, and do you offer help?10:07
Rory!ask | kali_eskrima10:07
ubottukali_eskrima: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience10:07
calimero_82it came a message before login-identification10:07
ActionParsnipkali_eskrima: we help all ubuntu user10:08
nightdreverok im off thanks again Rory10:08
Rorycalimero_82: What did the message say?10:08
Rory!cookie > rory10:08
ubottuRory, please see my private message10:08
calimero_82i don't remember caus it's been very fast10:08
calimero_82:(10:08
sharpshooterActionParsnip,  I typed typed the password and the shell is still the same10:08
Rorycalimero_82: Is it causing problems?10:08
calimero_82no nothing10:09
Rorysharpshooter: what command exactly are you running? "chsh -s /bin/bash username" try that10:09
Rorycalimero_82: So what is the problem?10:09
calimero_82i think there 's a problem10:09
Rorycalimero_82: Why?10:09
calimero_82had never appeared that message10:10
sharpshooterRory, i tried  chsh -s `which bash` username and  tried  chsh -s /bin/bash  username10:10
ActionParsnipsharpshooter: what is the output of:  cat /etc/issue10:11
kali_eskrimaif i install wine and wine windows program loader will that help me use certain win programs? what is the difference between them two? and will i be able to use the cannon printer and scanner with the wine program?10:11
Rory!wine | kali_eskrima10:11
ubottukali_eskrima: WINE is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux - More information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine - Search the !AppDB for application compatibility ratings - Join #winehq for application help - See !virtualizers for running Windows (or another OS) inside Ubuntu10:11
Rorykali_eskrima: Basically, some Windows applications work, and some don't10:11
ActionParsnipkali_eskrima: the drivers will need to be native, not used in Wine10:11
sharpshooterActionParsnip,  Ubuntu 13.04 \n \l10:11
Rorykali_eskrima: If you're having problems with your scanner we can help you set it up, does it have a model number?10:11
kali_eskrimawhat is native dirvers?10:12
ActionParsnipkali_eskrima: Wine is an abstraction layer for Windows call and you will have access to hardware which the Linux OS can communicate with.10:12
Rorysharpshooter: If you reset your terminal does the problem persist?10:12
ActionParsnipkali_eskrima: so yes, native drivers will be needed10:12
Rorysharpshooter: so you run "echo $SHELL" and it says "zsh" even though you're actually using Bash?10:12
ActionParsnipkali_eskrima: did you check the Canon Europe website? They do make driver debs for some of their products.10:12
sharpshooterRory, Rory  yes it still says /usr/bin/zsh10:13
calimero_82Rory:  i restart and control if happend again?10:13
ActionParsnipsharpshooter: what is the output of:  grep `whoami` /etc/passwd10:13
sharpshooterRory,  how can I  reset my terminal ?10:13
Rorysharpshooter: close it and open it again if it';s graphical10:14
sharpshooterRory, yeah I restart but not helping10:14
sharpshootersharpshooter:x:1000:1000:Sharpshooter,,,:/home/sharpshooter:/bin/bash10:14
sharpshooterActionParsnip, sharpshooter:x:1000:1000:Sharpshooter,,,:/home/sharpshooter:/bin/bash10:15
kali_eskrimai think i set it up after many hours looking online,... i did something find in the canon webste and downloaded the drivers. the only thing is bothering me, is that to use the canon printer scanner i need to use gimp.. but the icon of the ubuntu 12.04 "printer" and "scanner" doesnt recognize the canon....? why10:15
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Rorykali_eskrima: What's the model number of your printer/scanner ?10:15
kali_eskrimaso yes i think i set it up, i downloaded the dirvers10:15
ActionParsnipsharpshooter: looks fine, do you have the shell set in /etc/environment or in ~/.bashrc   at all10:15
kali_eskrimacanon mp2200 pixma multipractice10:15
Rorykali_eskrima: What Ubuntu version are you using? (use the command "cat /etc/issue" to check if you're unsure)10:16
kali_eskrima12.04 ubuntu10:17
ActionParsnipkali_eskrima: what is the output of:   cat /etc/issue; uname -m10:17
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kali_eskrimaoh and before i forget...where can i find the complete list of command lines for terminal? thanks10:17
kali_eskrimaok hold on @actionparsnip10:17
Rorykali_eskrima: It doesn't relly work like that but10:17
ActionParsnipkali_eskrima: the list is astronomical, completely unfeasible to document that way10:17
Rory!cli | kali_eskrima10:18
ubottukali_eskrima: The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal or type in it: man intro10:18
kali_eskrimai heard about the "man"...what is that excatly?10:18
jackthe question alone is wonderful though :P10:18
jackwindows fan, live!10:19
kali_eskrimaok so for the output is:10:19
ActionParsnipkali_eskrima: its the options of the command you want to use10:19
ActionParsnipkali_eskrima: what is the output of the command I gave plase10:19
Guest41419sc\x00\x00\x8f\x16w\x11\xcfN\xd5\xf4\xfe\x95\x80\x995z\xe1\xb6\x9e\x02\x1eM\xc9\xf9~\xe8W\x83PF\x1aK\x06\xb0h\x7f\xd3\x9a\x86AV2\x05\xee\x1f\xa7\x1f\x93;\xe2Js \x11\xfe\xfd\xc9)\x03\xcb\\O<P,u\x976HG\xd5\x8d^10:19
kali_eskrimaUbuntu 12.04.3 LTS \n \l  x86_6410:20
kali_eskrima@actionparsnip Ubuntu 12.04.3 LTS \n \l  x86_6410:20
kali_eskrimasorry im slow..10:20
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Guest41419acknowledge receipt10:20
RoryGuest41419: Looks like garbage10:21
DJonesGuest41419: Do you have an Ubuntu support question?10:21
kali_eskrimaim new to this ubuntu. i like it but its giving me so much complications. even the 12.04 has error messages , like it has failed and if i want to send a report...10:21
calimero_82Rory:  i restart my pc and control the advice?10:21
Rorycalimero_82: Honestly I don't know what you're asking10:21
ActionParsnipkali_eskrima: https://launchpad.net/~michael-gruz/+archive/canon/+files/cnijfilter-ip2200series_2.60-5ubuntu4_amd64.deb    install that10:21
tengopreguntas1can anybody tell me where i can read about what is the structure of the .list files for the repositories. i want to know how the "raring" "universe" thing works10:21
Rorycalimero_82: If it isn't causing you any actual problems, ignore it10:21
Guest41419black out10:22
calimero_82ok10:22
kali_eskrimaso how do you guys know always what to put in the terminal if the list is astronomical?10:22
calimero_82i see if happened again now10:22
calimero_82bye and thanks Rory10:22
Rorykali_eskrima: Experience :)10:22
kali_eskrima@actionparsnip i saw that website in launchpad of michael, but i dont understand it all....10:22
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kali_eskrimahmm..so u actually always upgrading the system and adding commands?10:23
Rorytengopreguntas1: https://wiki.debian.org/RepositoryFormat might be what you're after10:23
ActionParsnipkali_eskrima: its a deb file which may help10:23
ActionParsnipkali_eskrima: canon support is patchy at best10:23
tengopreguntas1Rory: sounds like. thanks a lot10:23
Rorykali_eskrima: "commands" you keep talking about are really just programs10:23
majorJcan install saucy salamander desktop from command line while running 13.04 desktop currently? or do i need to install it from ISO?10:23
kali_eskrimaso what is the debian? a system that my pc is runing?10:23
Rory!debian | kali_eskrima10:23
ubottukali_eskrima: Ubuntu and Debian are closely related. Ubuntu builds on the foundations of Debian architecture and infrastructure, with a different community and release process. See https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/installation-guide/i386/what-is-debian.html - Remember, !repositories meant for Debian should NOT be used on Ubuntu!10:23
ActionParsnipmajorJ: #ubuntu+1 for Saucy support10:23
sharpshooterActionParsnip,  I'am relay new to environment term, what is that supposed to do  ?10:24
ActionParsnipsharpshooter: is the shell defined in either of those 2 files?10:24
rich97Hey, does anyone else have a problem of "permission denied: /dev/null" when piping script output into it?10:24
kali_eskrima@action parsnip so that link for deb that you gave me, will actually make my programs in ubuntu for scanner and printer recognizable?10:25
kali_eskrima@rory oooh ok... i got it..commands10:25
Roryrich97: What is the output of: grep null /lib/udev/rules.d/*10:25
rich97/lib/udev/rules.d/50-udev-default.rules:KERNEL=="null|zero|full|random|urandom", MODE="0666"10:25
majorJso saucy is not stable yet huh ?10:26
RorymajorJ: Not until the 17th10:26
majorJcool bbl then10:26
majorJ:)10:26
Roryrich97: What is the output of: ls -l /dev/null10:26
kali_eskrimabut what clue could you give me to know what repositories will be for ubuntu or debian...??? how would i know? or recogonize..?10:26
ActionParsnipmajno, its prerelease10:26
rich97Rory: "crw-rw-rw- 1 root root 1, 3 Oct  8 08:42 /dev/null"10:27
kali_eskrima!repositories10:27
ubottuThe packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories - See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecommendedSources for the recommended way to set up your repositories.10:27
kali_eskrimaooh cool haha10:27
sharpshooterActionParsnip,  there is file in ~/.bashrc and in environment  there is PATH="/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/game    s:/usr/local/games"10:27
Roryrich97: What Ubuntu version are you using? (use the command "cat /dev/null" to check if you don't know)10:27
kali_eskrimaubutu has a command how to help u with all. who set it up? the ubutu commands?10:28
AdityaRajguys i am trying to install gparted on my system.. but it is saying unable to locate package10:28
Rorykali_eskrima: I'm not sure what you're asking to be honest, could you rephrase?10:29
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RoryAdityaRaj: Can you try running "sudo apt-get update" first?10:29
kali_eskrima@Rory @ActionParsnip so with this link for debian will i be able to use the ubuntu scanner and printer programs (already pre installed) and they will recognize the canon printer?10:29
AdityaRajRory, sure10:29
Rorykali_eskrima: Which link?10:29
ActionParsnipkali_eskrima: they were setup long long ago10:29
qinRory: What cat /dev/null have to do with version10:29
ActionParsnipkali_eskrima: I'm not sure how you are meaning 'set up'10:29
Rory!gnu | kali_eskrima further reading10:29
ubottukali_eskrima further reading: G(NU's) N(ot) U(nix). A project that aimed to develop a complete operating system of Free Software, which Ubuntu is based on. See http://gnu.org10:29
ActionParsnipkali_eskrima: or why it is important]10:29
RoryOh qin whoops typo10:30
AdityaRajRory, i am getting lots of errors10:30
Roryqin: His issue is with /dev/null that's why10:30
gartralum.. why am I getting permission denied with this command: /etc/asterisk$ sudo cat extensions.conf.bak >> extensions.conf bash: extensions.conf: Permission denied10:30
RoryAdityaRaj: Can you please put all the errors on "http://paste.ubuntu.com"10:30
kali_eskrimahttps://launchpad.net/~michael-gruz/+archive/canon/+files/cnijfilter-ip2200series_2.60-5ubuntu4_amd64.deb this link10:30
kali_eskrimait was an executale file..10:30
ActionParsnipgartral: because the sudo doesn't traverse the redirection10:30
rich97Rory: 13.0410:30
Rorygartral: cat extensions.conf.bak | sudo tee -a extensions.conf10:30
gartralRory: or reverse if I want the contents of the first at the bottom?10:31
Rorykali_eskrima: That's nothing to do with debian that's packaged for Ubuntu by someone called "michael-gruz" (apparently)10:31
rich97Rory: FYI cat /dev/null returned nothing.10:31
kali_eskrimaoh ok10:31
Roryrich97: "cat /etc/issue" sorry my mistake. doesn't matter now10:31
seperogartral: i think you need sudo su -c "cat extensions.conf.bak >> extensions.conf"10:31
ActionParsniprich97: it will, its a black hole10:31
kali_eskrimano is not important was just cool that you put exclamatory point and it gives you a lot of information..10:31
Ben64sepero: please don't suggest that10:32
ActionParsnipsepero: both will work :)10:32
rich97ActionParsnip: Yeah, I thought it was a weird command :)10:32
Rorygartral: Ignore sepero10:32
Roryrich97: sudo rm -f /dev/null ; sudo mknod /dev/null c 1 310:32
AdityaRajRory, here you go: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6208777/10:32
Roryrich97: Careful please10:32
kali_eskrimaso anyway, can you give me a hint how will i know what programs are for debian and what for ubuntu and where i will se repositories?...10:32
Roryrich97: and then sudo chmod 666 /dev/null10:33
gartralRory: yours worked after appending 'sudo' to the string, neither file are under my direct control10:33
Rorykali_eskrima: All the programs in the repositories are for Ubuntu10:33
Rorykali_eskrima: DOn't worry about Debian at all10:33
ActionParsnipkali_eskrima: you are using Ubuntu, so the commands you have will be for Ubuntu10:33
kali_eskrimaquick question, what are repositories, and where are they?10:33
kali_eskrimaoooh10:33
Rory!apt | kali_eskrima10:33
ubottukali_eskrima: APT is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto - Also see !Synaptic (Gnome), !Muon (KDE) or !Apper (KDE)10:33
ActionParsnipgartral: in your command, the only part with sudo powers was the 'echo' command10:33
ActionParsnipkali_eskrima: why not use the web to find out....10:34
rich97Rory: sudo rm -f /dev/null; Permission denied /dev/null10:34
gartralActionParsnip: echo?10:34
kali_eskrimaright10:34
qinkali_eskrima: would you: lsb_release -a ???10:34
Rorygartral: cat10:34
rich97Rory: Chmod works but it doesn't seem to do anything10:34
gartralRory: ahh yes10:34
Roryrich97: No output is good10:34
kali_eskrimathose are supear easy questions that i can found online.. google it10:34
gartralrich97: no output means the command succeeded10:34
kali_eskrimawhat is that?10:34
Rorykali_eskrima: We're not supposed to tell people to "google it" but... yes10:35
ActionParsnipgartral: yes, read your command10:35
kali_eskrima@qin what is that command?10:35
qinkali_eskrima: just want to make sure you not using kali linux and hurting yourself10:35
gartralActionParsnip: I forgot echo was a synonym for cat10:35
ActionParsnipgartral: by piping to 'sudo tee' it gets the access needed and can change the file10:35
Roryqin: "cat /etc/issue" is generally better because it outputs on one line10:35
mansonhi10:35
Roryhello manson10:35
ActionParsnipgartral: its similar10:35
rich97Rory gartral: Yeah, thanks I get that. I'm just saying that it doesn't seem to do anything to remedy the situation.10:36
kali_eskrimasorry i meant to do it and i tought it would be easier to ask, but i better ask something more complicated which takes me long to fix it by myself.10:36
kali_eskrimawhat is kali linux?10:36
Rorykali_eskrima: It's getting a bit busy in here, and it seems you have a lot of questions about Ubuntu which aren't strictly support questions. Why not join #ubuntu-offtopic channel and talk about it there?10:36
kali_eskrimaa program? and why would i hurt myself?10:36
kali_eskrimaright10:36
Rorykali_eskrima: Kali is another distribution based on Ubuntu. Formally known as BackTrack, it's used for penetration testing10:36
rich97Still a permission denied on any write operations which is weird considering sudo and mode 066610:36
k1lkali_eskrima: please put a "lsb_release -a" into a pastebin and show the link here10:37
gartralkali_eskrima: kali linux is another linux distrobution, and as such is outside the scope of the #ubuntu channel10:37
mansonhi i have problem, i am not able to connect wifi on ubuntu, it says authentication required, even my wifi password is correct but i cant10:37
Roryrich97: Can you give me an example of a command you run to produce the error?10:37
mansoncan anyone know this problem10:37
Rorymanson: What Ubuntu version are you using? And what is the model number of your wireless device, motherboard, or laptop?10:37
rich97Rory: ls > /dev/null10:37
ActionParsnipmanson: what wifi chip are you using?10:37
mansonits ubuntu 12.1010:37
kali_eskrimai see.10:37
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mansoni work here as a php programmer but now i want to work on ubuntu10:38
kali_eskrimaok will ask something more complicated, in the topic . i had something to ask, but i forgot for now. so will come back when i remember. thank you all for the help!!! i realy appreciated it all!10:38
qinkali_eskrima: Sorry, my bad, you Ubuntu10:39
mansoni dont know chip type10:39
mansonbez im not admin for this pc10:39
kali_eskrimayes i have ubuntu @qin10:39
rich97Rory: Sorry  I'm going to have to go, thanks for your help.10:39
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tdnHow do I get the Simple Scan program to work with my new HP LaserJet Pro 200 Color MFP printer (M276nw)? I have already installed hplip, however, Simple Scan says no scanner device was found.10:39
Rorytdn: What Ubuntu version?10:39
mansonhello10:39
k1l!paste | kali_eskrima put the output of "lsb_release -a" in there10:40
ubottukali_eskrima put the output of "lsb_release -a" in there: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.10:40
tdnI have tried using xsane, however, it cannot find the scanner. I have tried attacing it directly via USB.10:40
tdnRory, 12.04.10:40
Rorymanson: Is it a laptop?10:40
mansonbro its pc10:40
Rorymanson: Is the wireless device USB?10:40
mansonno, its wifi10:41
Alex34543Hi everybody, i would like to find the "Information Process Letters" Vol.8, I  don't know how to find it :(10:41
kali_eskrima@kil @qin sorry i dont understand what am i suppose to paste the output or put it... @@10:41
Rorymanson: Is the wifi built into your computer or is it a separate device?10:41
Rorykali_eskrima: http://paste.ubuntu.com10:41
k1lkali_eskrima: read the message the bot gave you10:41
tdnRory, any ideas?10:42
mansonyeh its seperate10:42
kali_eskrima@oh yes for longer texts and pictures to use another window. ok got it10:42
Rorymanson: If I wanted to buy one for myself, what would I have to search on AMazon to find it?10:42
qink1l: his ctcp looks (X11; Ubuntu; Linux x86_64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/24.010:42
gueney_Hello guys. I have accidentally pulled out my usb stick from my machine without umounting it. It still  remains in my /media/ folder and can be browsable to a certain degree. How can I remedy that? I have no  root privileges. It's a stick I occasionally use for work but also has confidential/private data on it... would very much prefer to not leave it browsable10:43
Roryqin: What k1l is getting at is, hes probably using Kali Linux and not Ubuntu#10:43
mansonhello Rory10:43
mansonpl help me out10:43
ActionParsnipgueney_: you can force unmount stuff10:43
Rorymanson: Is there a sticker on it with a model number?10:43
gueney_ActionParsni: How/10:43
AntiochI want to change the permissions of a folder and all of its nested subfolders (but not files). Does using the chmod -R flag change the only the folders, or all folders+files?10:44
RoryAntioch: The latter10:44
AntiochRory, any way to do only folders?10:44
mansonits not my own wifi its university wifi10:44
RoryAntioch: use chmod -Rv to see10:44
RoryAntioch: yes hold on10:44
Antiochsorry, thank you.10:44
qinAntioch: chmod 0600 $(find . ! -type d), use with sens10:45
mansonthe another problem is from the top of bar, there is warning red mark occurred10:45
Antiochqin: thank you very much!10:46
mansonwhen i clicked an error says, plz run package manager from right-click menu10:46
qinAntioch: or better yet, find . -type d -exec chmod 0600 {} \;10:46
mansonhello Rory10:46
RoryAntioch:  find . -type d -exec chmod 666 {} \;10:46
RoryAntioch: replace 666 with whatever10:46
Rorymanson: I can't help you unless I know what the actual wifi device is10:47
gulag2013qin, that is cool. Can you explain the first 0 in the 0600 ?10:47
mansonohh10:47
tdnHow do I share a folder in Ubuntu 12.04 so that a printer can upload scanned files to it? I am guessing this is samba shares. How to do?10:47
keanehsiaohi, how can I use monit to check multiple processes with simple dsl something like "check process instance[0-100] with pid /file/loc/instance[0-100]"   ?10:47
AntiochRory thanks, that's easier to understand :)10:47
ActionParsniptdn: in nautilus, right click a folder and select share10:47
tdnActionParsnip, do I need to set up any users or groups for this? I just want a world writable folder.10:48
tdnActionParsnip, when I have shared a folder, then what? What address do I type in on the printer?10:48
tdnActionParsnip, \\hostname\foldername?10:48
Rorymanson: It will be on a sticker on the device itsself, or if you really don't know, you can run the command "sudo lsusb" and put the output on http://paste.ubuntu.com and I will work it out from that10:48
tdnActionParsnip, what if several users share a folder with same name?10:49
mansonok, the error message comes top of bar: Opening the cache(could not open file /var/lib/dpkg/ status -open(13:permission denied)10:49
ActionParsniptdn: depends on the OS you are uploading from. You can run:   sudo smbpasswd -a $USER    and create a samba username and password to authenticate with. Try it without10:49
mansoncan u fix tat probleme Rory plz10:49
Rorymanson: I thought you were having issues with wifi? Can we deal with one at a time?10:49
mansonyes but i dont know model of wifi10:50
qingulag2013: More litteral: echo today is $(date), tomorrow will be $(date --date="+1 day")10:50
LachezarQ: I have a RAID-1 defined in /etc/mdadm/mdadm.conf as /dev/md0, but upon reboot it shows as /dev/md127. How come?10:50
mansoncould u plz fix my next prob10:50
Rorymanson: then can you put the output of the command "sudo lsusb" on http://paste.ubuntu.com and put the resulting URL in channel10:50
mansonok10:51
gulag2013qin, you went over my head. Is was asking about the 0 in the 0600. Is it a sticky bit or something like that. I'm new to permission.10:52
tdnActionParsnip, the OS is an HP printer.10:52
tdnActionParsnip, so something embedded.10:52
mansonit tells me bus 001 Device 001:ID 1d6b:000210:52
qingulag2013: oh, mod?10:54
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qingulag2013: http://major.io/2007/02/13/chmod-and-the-mysterious-first-octet/10:54
gulag2013Is that what that is, so in that example did that help set only the directories and leave the file permissions the same.10:54
gulag2013Okay, thanks10:55
Rorymanson: Can you pastebin the full output please?10:56
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mansonRory , i am reinstalling ubuntu again10:58
Rorymanson: No need10:58
Rorymanson: It won't help10:58
Rorymanson: I don't understand why you aren't helping me help you10:59
Rorymanson: I'm starting to suspect you're a troll10:59
mansoni cant bez im on another pc10:59
Rorymanson: Unplug your Wireless USB dongle from your computer and hold it in your hand. Look at it, and see if there are words and numbers on it. Tell me what those words and numbers are11:00
kali_eskrima@ActionParsnip what did you said that was offtopic ubuntu? how do i type...sorry i was looking for it but i couldnt find it, to many entries.....11:01
Rorykali_eskrima: type "/join #ubuntu-offtopic"11:01
z302will hibernation resume work correctly if I have my swap partitions sitting inside LUKS encrypted volumes whose password is usually asked at boot?11:02
Roryz302: Works for me11:02
z302many thanks.11:02
kali_eskrimathanks rory.. what does it mean "you are a troll"? and can you please tell me what i should never try to type into the terminal? there was a text i saw once, and it said on the website to never put it in you terminal because its bad? and its troll a virus?11:03
Rorykali_eskrima: I wasn't suggesting you were a troll11:03
* Lachezar had to update initramfs11:03
k1lkali_eskrima: for generall talk please ask in #ubuntu-offtopic11:03
Rorykali_eskrima: You should never run any command you don't understand11:03
kali_eskrimayes i know it wasnt for me. i just tought its a virus, ..11:04
kali_eskrimabut there was one specific command. its ok will try to find it out.. google it :D haha11:04
kali_eskrimathanks ya'all.11:04
Rasmus`Sorry to barge in and ask a question right off the bat, but Ubuntu says it is unable to create a file in an apt-get install -f process because the disk is full - but it isn't.11:05
Rasmus`Any way to resolve this?11:05
Rasmus`(Or any idea what might be the reason for this behaviour?)11:05
k1lRasmus`: please pastebin a "df -h"11:05
kali_eskrima@Rory btw just so you know, many times i dont know much of the commands i see on the website help. but i still run them becuase it seems they are related to the problem im experiencing.. hahah... im still a rookie in the terminal11:05
Rasmus`https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/3118195/df.txt11:06
Rorykali_eskrima: Sometimes you can get a good idea for what a command does. And if you're unsure you can ask here11:06
RoryRasmus`: Can you please pastebin the command you ran and the full output including the errors?11:06
kali_eskrimayeah, thanks will do. sometimes it does make sense for the command. like its an abbreviation of the word..11:07
mansonROry, i told u tat i am not admin, im user here i a dept11:08
Rasmus`Rory: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/3118195/Error.txt11:08
the-noobhi, how can I add Apache as a service?11:08
Rorymanson: That doesn't stop you using your eyes11:08
Rorymanson: Ignored11:08
the-noobeach time I'm restarting the machine apache is stopped11:08
Rorythe-noob: How did you install Apache?11:09
k1lRasmus`: run"sudo apt-get autoremove" to free some space11:09
the-noobapt-get install11:09
k1l!rootirc > root____311:09
ubotturoot____3, please see my private message11:09
mansonbefore 3 hours my wifi was working but now its now11:09
root____3ok11:09
mansonbez i type command for installing sound driver and to install apache 2 server11:10
Rorythe-noob: "sudo apt-get install apache2" ?11:10
k1lRasmus`: and do a "sudo apt-get autoclean" afterwards11:10
conor1234567890fff11:10
the-noobyes11:10
kali_eskrima@manson .... i dont know if this will help you but it did to me. my wifi was working and than i couldnt even select it from the menu. try this...  http://askubuntu.com/questions/139036/how-do-i-fix-a-wireless-is-disabled-by-hardware-switch-error11:10
Rasmus`k1l: I tried, but I get a similar error. https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/3118195/Error%20-%20Kopie.txt11:10
Rorythe-noob: sudo update-rc.d apache2 enable11:10
the-noobdid that, said it was added11:11
the-nooband it's not workin11:11
k1lRasmus`: without "-f"11:11
Rasmus`I'm basically going in circles. I can't clear that weird dependency error because it says I don't have enough space, but to clear space I need those dependency errors fixed. At least that's what it looks like to me.11:11
ActionParsnipthe-noob: what is the output of:  cat /etc/issue11:11
Rorythe-noob: What's the output of "sudo service apache2 status" ?11:11
ActionParsnipRasmus`: do you have /home on a separate partition?11:11
RoryActionParsnip: his df -h is here https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/3118195/df.txt11:11
the-noobI've just started it again by hand11:12
Rasmus`k1l: I did both. Check again, I updated the file. (too lazy to create a new file for each error)11:12
ActionParsnipRory: and the output of:    df -i11:12
the-nooblet me restart11:12
ActionParsnipRory: and the output of:  cat /etc/issue11:12
badasshow can I automatically add users added with Winbind in AD to a local group?11:13
RoryActionParsnip: I'm sure you don't mean me11:13
ActionParsnipRory: who is it?11:13
Rasmus`It's-a me!11:13
Rasmus`I think.11:13
RoryActionParsnip: Rasmus`11:13
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mansonROry, i reinstall ubuntu11:13
ActionParsnipRory: ty11:13
mansonstill, i cant connect wifi11:14
ActionParsnipRasmus`: what is the output of:   df -i; cat /etc/issue11:14
manson?11:14
kali_eskrimaoh sorry Rory one more thing, can i ask here for help about how to create more than one partion? i already missed the installing part (when u can create partition) i didnt understand it. but now i would like to have at least two.. so can i ask here or in the offtopic window?11:14
ActionParsnipmanson: what wifi chip are you using?11:14
kali_eskrimaMANSON this you see the link i gave you? will it help your problem?11:14
Rasmus`ActionParsnip: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/3118195/df.txt11:14
Rorykali_eskrima: You can install and use the "gparted" application, but you can't resize the partition Ubuntu is currently on11:14
mansoni dont know11:14
RoryActionParsnip: Don't even go there11:14
ActionParsnipRasmus`: you are out of inodes11:14
ActionParsnipmanson: sudo lshw -C network     will tell you11:15
ActionParsnipRasmus`: if you clear browser cache, it can help11:15
Rasmus`It's on a server, I'm not really using the browser (nor do I think it's even installed)11:15
kali_eskrimaooh ok... will look for more info on that,. thanks rory, i couldnt understand how to do it in the installation process...all that .dx. /.sv letters ...hmmm rookie :D11:15
the-noobRory: Apache2 is NOT running.11:15
ActionParsnipRasmus`: you need to free up inodes11:15
Rorythe-noob: Can you start it with "sudo service apache2 start" ?11:15
the-noobyes11:16
ActionParsnipthe-noob: what is the output of:   cat /etc/issue11:16
Rorykali_eskrima: If you boot froma LiveCD you can do partitioning from there, using the "gparted" program which is included11:16
the-noob13.0411:16
mansonBus 001 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub11:16
mansonBus 002 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub11:16
mansonBus 003 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub11:16
mansonBus 004 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub11:16
FloodBot1manson: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.11:16
the-noob\n \l if it matters11:16
ActionParsnipmanson: that's not what I said to run11:16
RoryActionParsnip: It is what I asked him for about half an hour ago11:17
RoryActionParsnip: Don't blame me though, I told him to use paste.ubuntu.com :P11:17
kali_eskrima@Rory i know that but i couldnt figure out how to do it.. there was a bunch of letters and spaces. and also an option to add a new partiotion and it wouldnt work... but ok will research more.. thanks!11:17
Rasmus`ActionParsnip: Thanks a bunch, I'll try to take it from here.11:17
ActionParsnipthe-noob: run:   gksudo gedit /etc/rc.local    and above the 'exit 0' line, add: service apache2 start    save the new file, close gedit and reboot11:17
Rasmus`Thank you as well, Rory.11:17
jayHI'm having trouble installing the latest Pitivi 0.91, anyone here can help please?11:18
RoryjayH: What Ubuntu version are you using? How are you trying to install it?11:18
RoryjayH: What trouble are you having?11:18
jayHI'm compiling I think (new to Ubuntu) -missing a package I think, configure: error: Package requirements (cairo) were not met11:18
the-noobActionParsnip: well, the entire story is that I'm using it in a VM with Vagrant11:18
the-nooband shell provisioning11:19
the-noobso I'll just add that ' apache2ctl start ' to the bootstrap.sh11:19
ActionParsnipthe-noob: the command will run as root at startup and get the service running11:19
ActionParsnipjayH: where are you installing it from? What method are you using?11:19
jayHI ran ./configure which was fine till that point11:20
jayHIt's the latest version, not in Software Centre yet11:20
ActionParsnipjayH: is there not a PPA?11:20
jayHI couldn't find one that was new11:20
jayHI like PPAs ;)11:21
ActionParsnipjayH: what is the output of:  cat /etc/issue11:21
jayHActionParsnip, sorry what output?11:21
ActionParsnipjayH: of the command I just gave...11:22
jayHI ran the command ./configure, all dependencies met I think, no errors except:  checking for cairo... configure: error: Package requirements (cairo) were not met:11:22
jayHUbuntu 13.04 \n \l11:23
ActionParsnipjayH: do you have python-cairo installed? may need python-cairo-dev too11:25
jayHActionParsnip any luck?11:25
ActionParsnipjayH: with what?11:26
jayHI know I have Python, use it for blender, but not sure on the specifics11:26
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ActionParsnipjayH: I gave you a package name, is it ionstalled?11:27
jayHsorry, how do I check if it's installed? New to Linux11:27
ActionParsnipjayH: use software centre, or install it using apt-get11:28
ActionParsnipjayH: neverused eithe rof those before?11:28
jayHok11:28
ActionParsnipjayH: never used either of those before?11:28
jayHI have Python-cairo installed already - but not the dev, I'll install that then11:29
jayHI've used Software Centre obviously, but didn't know I'd find something so small in them - like I said, I'm new to linux/ubuntu11:30
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jayHNope - that didn't work either - still the same missing package11:31
mansonhello11:31
tengopreguntas1i am using "dpkg-repack --generate" to build a package. is there a way i can know the name of the directory dpkg-repack created, so i can pass it to "dpkg --build" later on11:31
CodeOmegaPrimeI have a ubuntu 13.04 running gnome with ati graphics. The problem is when I access activities everything begins to flash. Also when a program is open if it is not fullscreen it is unviewable. Any ideas of what coyld ge causing this behavior?11:31
mansonRory- i fixed the problem11:31
mansoni didnt add my wifi network connection11:32
mansonhi there ActionParsnip11:33
mansoni fix problem11:33
ntg-workCodeOmegaPrime: are you on a laptop ?11:33
CodeOmegaPrimentg-work no desktop11:33
ntg-workCodeOmegaPrime: ah right, have you installed the AMD drivers?11:34
ActionParsnipmanson: cool11:34
rchavikhi, is there an fdisk-like CLI during install ?11:34
CodeOmegaPrimentg-work yes I have11:34
ActionParsniprchavik: fdisk is on the desktop install ISO11:34
ntg-workCodeOmegaPrime: lspci | grep VGA11:35
ntg-workpastebin the output11:35
ntg-workCodeOmegaPrime: also do "lshw -c video" and pastebin that as well11:35
rchavikActionParsnip, are you saying the fdisk*.udeb file?11:35
CodeOmegaPrimeOK11:35
ActionParsniprchavik: if you run:    sudo fdisk /dev/sda    you will get fdisk access to the first drive.11:36
rchavikActionParsnip, the system is not installed yet.. i want to clear out the partition table before the installer starts the partitioning program11:37
mansonhello <ActionParsnip11:37
mansoni m trying to install apache 2 server having command sudo apt-get install apache211:37
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mansonbut says error "unable to corect problems , have held broken packages"11:38
CodeOmegaPrimeNg-work http://paste.ubuntu.com/620893511:38
ActionParsniprchavik: then use gparted to wipe the MBR and you will have zero partitions, you can then run the installer11:38
jribmanson: pastebin full input and output11:38
ActionParsnipmanson: then run:  sudo apt-get -f install11:38
ntg-workCodeOmegaPrime: 33mhz clock huh.. hmm11:39
ntg-workCodeOmegaPrime: can you try running glxgears and see if that causes any problems?11:39
CodeOmegaPrimeSure11:39
mansonjrib11:39
mansonwhere i gotta pastebin input and outtput11:40
rchavikActionParsnip, yeah.. boot rescue first.. thanks11:40
jrib!pastebin | manson11:40
ubottumanson: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.11:40
CodeOmegaPrimeng-work works fine as long as its fullscreen11:40
CodeOmegaPrimeng-work if its not fullscreen the window is grey an content is not rendered11:41
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ntg-workhmm11:41
ntg-workI had that problem on one of my earlier laptops, I'm trying to remember how I fixed it11:43
funktHi there has anyone ever tried to use xml encryption software xmlsec1 in ubuntu?11:43
CodeOmegaPrimeShould I attempt to remove video drivers and reinstall them?11:44
kali_eskrima@Rory hi, i have one quick question. maybe is nothing but i wasnt too sure what to do. so downloaded the gparted and i was reseraching online how to do partition after installed ubuntu. i entered this command to terminal (sudo fdisk -l) and it gave me specific list with one warning. please can you see in the link i give you? thank you very much.   http://paste.ubuntu.com/6208970/11:47
funktdoes anyone know of any ubuntu xml encryption software?11:47
qin!abs | gulag201311:49
ubottugulag2013: Advanced Bash-Scripting Guide, obtainable with ${package-manager} install abs-guide, is a quick and comprehensive guide to bash (command line) scripting in *nix systems. It is also viewable via web at http://tldp.org/LDP/abs/html/11:49
Rasmus`Whee, fixing a problem in Ubuntu makes me so happy for some reason.11:49
qingulag2013: sorry for waiting time, /j #bash will add too11:49
gulag2013qin, thats great. Thanks for the reply. I was having a long talk with myself if I should continue learning linux.11:51
BananaBobgine11:52
Rorykali_eskrima: You should use the graphical "gparted" utility  -you don't need to install it, it's already on the LiveCD11:52
ActionParsnipRasmus`: its a challenge met, so all good :)11:53
kali_eskrimaok i saw it on the live cd but i didnt know what to do. thats why i did install gparted now. so can it damage my disk of current settings or i can just create without problems, another partition? did you saw the link i gave you?11:53
ActionParsnipkali_eskrima: you just updated it if you installed it :)11:53
kali_eskrimaoh ok.. hmm11:54
kali_eskrimadid you saw the link i gave? it says something about WARNING GPT..... etc11:54
Rorykali_eskrima: You should run gparted, then you can graphically resize partitions and create new ones11:54
kali_eskrimashould i be concerned?11:55
Rorykali_eskrima: That's right, the command-line utility "fdisk" doesn't support the type of partition table you are using. It's not a problem11:55
kali_eskrimaok and gparted will not destroy my current setting, will just add /separate this big partition in two? right?11:55
ActionParsnipkali_eskrima: if you are concerned then ensure your backups are up to date11:56
Rorykimphill: It will do what you tell it to do11:56
Rorykali_eskrima: ^11:56
Rory(sorry kimphill )11:56
ntg-workCodeOmegaPrime: Sorry, I was away for a little while11:56
kali_eskrimai dont quite undertand what that meas "that it doesnt support the type of partiotion table used" but is ok, no need to know at the moment.11:57
Rorykali_eskrima: It will be pretty obvious once you open it, you can just right-click a partition and do "resize" and there's a slider11:57
Rasmus`ActionParsnip: I'm more of a beginner with Linux, and unfortunately I don't have many reasons to work with it in my daily routine. I have this little server running at home, doing some basic stuff. But since it's running almost.. too well, I never really have reason to work with it.11:57
kali_eskrimawhat is this that sign?^11:57
YowlSomeone here have knowledge of eCryptfs and/or other ecryption software/methods?11:57
CodeOmegaPrimeng-work np im just going to reinstall. Rwally wisg I knew what caused it11:57
Rorykali_eskrima: I meant it to get your attention to the message above. Just a little up-arrow11:57
CodeOmegaPrimeNg-work now I cannot even ligin to gnome11:58
ntg-workCodeOmegaPrime: ouch11:58
kali_eskrimaoh ok thank you11:58
CodeOmegaPrimeNtg-work and I think I will upgrade the kernwl before I jnstall the ati driver's11:58
kali_eskrimahow do you make my name sound, when you click on it. and i can hear you text me? what do you type?11:58
ntg-workCodeOmegaPrime: you can try that as well, what motherboard do you have?11:59
ntg-workdo you have any onboard gfx?11:59
CodeOmegaPrimeNo the card is its own board12:00
CodeOmegaPrimeNope wrong its integrated12:00
ntg-workaaah right12:00
ntg-workwhere did you install the driver?12:01
ntg-workI mean, where did you get it from ?12:01
CodeOmegaPrimeAti12:01
ntg-workamd.com ?12:01
CodeOmegaPrimeUsed the proprietary12:01
CodeOmegaPrimeYup12:01
ntg-workCan you try using the driver manager and selecting the propertiary driver from there?12:02
CodeOmegaPrimeI will after I reinstall I believe I went proprietary because it wouldnt install give me 20 to reinstall and lets see12:03
jackntg-work, is "proprietary" a hard word?12:03
jackseems like it...12:03
ActionParsnipCodeOmegaPrime: the physical connectivity is irrelevant in any OS12:03
_root_http://stackoverflow.com/questions/19229985/fvwm-style-for-the-windows/19244269#1924426912:05
_root_does anybody know the answer?12:05
kali_eskrima@Rory what it means /dev/sda1; dev/sda2; dev/sda3? where should i do another partition? the first two are used (1st has 90mb; the 2nd has 675 gb) the 3rd is free.12:06
TJ-kali_eskrima: It might help for you to better understand disk partitioning. Take a look at this guide https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowtoPartition12:08
kali_eskrimathank you TJ12:09
kali_eskrimajust one more thing, how do you select my name that will make a sound?12:09
zwamkatgordonjcp: Yep. I added both shares and gave them each their own credentials. I'm not sure it was necessary but it was sure useful for troubleshooting. Issue solved. Thanks for your help.12:11
IdleOnekali_eskrima: that is part of your irc client. when your nick is mentioned in a channel your client beeps you12:12
kali_eskrimaoooh cool, ok so no special commands :D thanks12:12
NeptuHej I want to buy some grafic card dongle for the laptop that works with linux, but seems the ones have been tested are out of the market at this point12:20
Neptuanyone know a usb graficard that Its supported?? maybe there is a compatibility list of hardware or chipset for ubuntu?12:21
ActionParsnip!hcl12:24
ubottuFor lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport - To help debugging and improving hardware detection, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingHardwareDetection12:24
barmmieGood day guys12:26
TJ-Neptu: An alternative, if the laptop has an ExpressCard port, is to use an external ViDock with a full-size PCIe graphics adapter. I use one to add 4 screens (via an Nvidia NVS450) to the 2 screens my laptop's GPU can drive.12:26
barmmieCan anyone tell me how to uninstall aptana studio12:27
root_yup12:27
ActionParsnipbarmmie: use software centre12:27
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ActionParsnipbarmmie: how did you install it?12:28
barmmieActionParsnip: from the command line12:28
ActionParsnipbarmmie: ok, what commands did you use?12:28
ActionParsnipbarmmie: and what is the output of:  cat /etc/issue12:29
barmmieActionParsnip Ubuntu 12.10 \n \l12:30
barmmieActionParsnip: Ubuntu 12.10 \n \l12:31
ActionParsnipbarmmie: did you use this guide: http://www.samclarke.com/2012/12/how-to-install-aptana-studio-3-3-1-in-ubuntu-12-10-quantal-quetzal/12:32
barmmieActionParsnip: Yes!12:34
ActionParsnipbarmmie: then reverse the steps.....12:34
barmmieActionParsnip: Would try that. Thanks!12:35
ActionParsnipbarmmie: sudo rm -r /opt/Aptana_Studio_3 /opt/Aptana_Studio_3.xpm /usr/share/applications/SC-AptanaStudio.desktop12:36
ActionParsnipbarmmie: if you READ the install script you ran, it shows exactly what was put where, so you can undo it12:36
barmmieActionParsnip: No such file or directory12:39
ActionParsnipbarmmie: read the script you ran....12:40
ActionParsnipbarmmie: you could even search your file system for the files named12:40
barmmieActionParsnip: Doing that now...12:40
ActionParsnipbarmmie: not obvious enough?12:41
amandabeemy laptop keeps crashing. It shuts down with a poof.12:42
amandabeeI'm running 12.0412:42
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amandabeeI'm trying to figure out where to look to diagnose this12:42
ActionParsnipamandabee: have you tested your RAM using memtest from Grub?12:42
ChefHow far are you getting into the boot process?12:42
amandabeeActionParsnip: nope.12:42
ActionParsnipamandabee: itd be a good start12:42
amandabeeChef: well, I'm booted now, though I'm using IRSSI from TTY 3  which seems less fussy12:43
barmmieActionParsnip: It was removed already and i was still running the command! Thanks!!12:43
amandabeeis there a log file I should be looking at? Last time I saw a flash of a shutdown message12:44
amandabeeso it knew it was going down12:44
Chef/var/log/boot, I think12:44
brownieam very new in ths12:44
brownie...any guideline12:44
amandabeeChef: "(nothing has been logged yet)"12:45
ChefWhoops, boot.log12:45
slipkyi have a ubuntu server 12.04 running openldap and cups ... it is possible to make a windows client be prompt with ldap authentication every time that it send a job to a printer?12:46
YowlAnyone here know of eCryptfs and or other encryption methods etc?12:47
ChefYowl, I use ecryptfs.12:47
ChefI've never had a need for full-disk encryption like luks or dm-crypt, though.12:48
YowlChef:  It is a type of FS, doesn't that mean it makes a quasi partition?12:48
YowlChef: Since you can't have more then one FS on a partition, right?12:48
ChefI think it does, but I'm not an expert.12:49
YowlChef: Is the space within eCrypts static  like a partition, or expand and contract according to contents within?12:49
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ChefI think the default is static.. To be honest, I don't remember much about my setup of ecrypt12:50
zexcrizi don't remember exactly what i did but i messed the  permissions of apache, right now i am getting an error as /var/lock/apache2 already exists but is not a directory owned my zexcriz.12:51
TJ-Yowl: eCryptfs is a stacked file-system, it doesn't work on the block level, but on a per-directory/per-file basis.12:51
helmut_hi12:51
YowlTJ-: I am not sure what you mean/how that applies to what I was asking about12:52
TJ-Yowl: The encrypted homes on Ubuntu live at /home/.ecryptfs/$USER/12:52
YowlTJ-: So is it a FS or not? Does it expand and contract according to content amount or not?12:53
TJ-Yowl: There is no 'partition' set aside for it... it works above an existing blocked file-system, hence it is called 'stacked' since the file-systems stack one on top of another12:53
YowlTJ  Does it expand and contract according to content amount or is the space within set/static?12:55
MonkeyDusthi, this the playce for obuntu questyons?12:55
ChefIt expands/contracts according to content.12:55
TJ-Yowl: Your question makes no sense in relation to ecryptfs.12:55
ChefAlthough expansion/contraction are weird words12:55
IdleOneMonkeyDust: ?12:55
YowlWell I would be glad to use less weird words, if I had them12:55
fishcookerhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/6209190/12:56
TJ-Yowl: When ecryptfs is in use, it writes each file/directory that is encrypted to a file/directory that is encrypted, in the underlying file system. Each encrypted file will have a size in relation to the unencrypted version12:56
YowlChef: So can actively get into and lock up ecrypts contents without having to relog?12:57
TJ-Yowl: Real example might help you here...12:57
fishcookeris it about the locale error?12:57
fishcookerhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/6209190/12:57
TJ-Yowl: The /home/ file-system on my current system uses ext4 block-level file-system.12:57
TJ-Yowl: When I chose to encrypt my home directory (/home/tj/) ecryptfs created a new directory (/home/.ecryptfs/tj/).12:58
TJ-Yowl: Before I log-in the only things in /home/tj/ are maker files saying my home directory is encrypted. After I log-in ecryptfs reads all the directories and files in /home/.ecryptfs/tj/.Private/ and creates their unencrypted versions in /home/tj/12:59
TJ-s/maker files/marker files/12:59
blurkisI just tried gnome  3.10 on ubuntu 3.10 (yes, i know its still in development) and there seems to be no way to change theme for applications..? how do I do that in gnome 3.10?13:01
ceborwhen i move a window with (shift + ctrl + alt + cursor) to a other desktop, is it a know bug, that the animation is very ugly in 13.04 ?13:01
YowlTJ-: So the content is encypted and unencrypted via log in? I can't actively lock or unlock said encypted content?13:01
TJ-Yowl: As those files are written to the encrypted versions are updated during the write, so eCryptFS presents a 'view' of unencrypted files but they don't really exist, it just transparently decrypts/encrypts the files in /home/.ecryptfs/ttj/.Private/ as I access them13:01
TJ-Yowl: Sure you can. You can unlink the login scripts that mount ecryptfs and handle it manually if you want to13:02
TJ-Yowl: If the ecryptfs pass-phrase gets out of sync with your user  password you'll log-in to find none of the expected files in /home/$USER/, for example.13:03
shomonhiya, I was copying stuff and the computer got unplugged and now that drive won't mount..13:03
shomonit gives me this message: http://pastebin.com/jJUJTfR013:03
YowlTJ-: So I can have my encrypted content unlocked and remain unlockthrough multiple logins and outs, and visa versa, I can have it locked and remain locked with multiple logins and outs?13:04
shomonI don't have windows but I could make a hiren's boot cd and boot from it perhaps.13:04
Yowlwell, visa versa was the wrong word there13:04
shomonis there an ubuntu way to fix the problem? a unix way even?13:06
YowlChef:  Do you know?13:07
ChefI don't, sorry.13:08
ChefI encrypt, then decrypt after using it.13:08
YowlChef: Don't you mean the other way around?13:08
ChefYes, sorry.13:09
YowlChef: And you decrypt by logging in as X user?13:09
ChefI don't know if there's a way to preserve its state if you log in or out.13:09
ChefNo, using commandline.13:09
Chefecryptfs-mount-private and ecryptfs-umount-private13:09
YowlChef: So you log in, run  a command line with password. It descrypts. What would happen if you restarted your PC, would it be crypted or unencrypted?13:10
ChefCrypted.. I think.13:11
ChefLemme test it.13:11
dandan_I am trying to run a MAKE command to compile a kernel for my Samsung phone. I have to correct cross-compile toolchain and it works, however I keep getting this error message: http://pastie.org/8386593 I am on Ubuntu 12.04. The weird thing is, this ONLY HAPPENS, when I have ran sudo apt-get upgrade. If I leave all packages not upgraded, then MAKE works fine. This only happened after upgrading all packages (after initial install from the 13:12
ChefYowl, it's crypted13:13
Yowlthanks13:14
dandan_Does anyone know why my MAKE command won't work?13:14
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ChefWhat are you compiling? What does it report?13:14
dandan_I am trying to run a MAKE command to compile a kernel for my Samsung phone. I have to correct cross-compile toolchain and it works, however I keep getting this error message: http://pastie.org/8386593 I am on Ubuntu 12.04. The weird thing is, this ONLY HAPPENS, when I have ran sudo apt-get upgrade. If I leave all packages not upgraded, then MAKE works fine. This only happened after upgrading all packages (after initial install from the 13:15
YowlChef So what happens with encrypted content if you delete your current version/distro of linux and make a new one?13:16
ChefFor me, it's deleted13:16
ChefI think you can copy over ~/.ecryptfs13:17
ChefI'm not sure13:17
YowlChief All the encrypted content within would be deleted?13:17
dandan_Chef: I am trying to compile a kernel for my Samsung Galaxy Note 3. I was able to successfully do this until I upgraded all my packages and then I started getting the error shown here: http://pastie.org/838659313:17
Chefdandan_: What packages are being updated between the upgrade?13:18
ChefYowl, truecrypt allows you to have a portable encrypted container13:18
TJ-dandan_: Show us /home/dan/android/kernel/arch/arm/include/asm/stackprotector.h13:19
qbalazsQuick probably strange question, but does anyone know where an up to date "rpm-ized" version of debootstrap could be found?13:19
TJ-dandan_: The likely cause is, your build script is including system include files that have #defines that are affecting your build13:19
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YowlChef:  What differences are there between truecrypt and eCryptfs?13:20
TJ-truecrypt is a block-level system the same as dm-crypt13:20
YowlTJ-: And what does block level system mean?13:21
TJ-Yowl: block devices... those that allocate space in blocks (usually sectors)13:22
dandan_Here is the file stackprotector.h http://pastie.org/838662513:22
TJ-dandan_: thanks13:22
TJ-dandan_: Do you see the error? Your make fails with a report of an unexpected semi-colon on line 32. "canary ^= LINUX_VERSION_CODE;" ... which tells me that LINUX_VERSION_CODE has not been defined and is null/empty13:23
dandan_Why has LINUX VERSION CODE not been defined when previously it must have been defined if I could MAKE okay?13:24
TJ-dandan_: That file is including "#include <linux/version.h>" which, because of the <> markers, it will look for in the system include directory /usr/include/13:25
YowlTJ-: Meaning the Encrypted space is set, like a partition?13:25
TJ-dandan_: So check /usr/include/linux/version.h13:25
TJ-Yowl: forget the partition, it is a file-system - it could live inside a file (if it is loopback mounted) as in, for example, virtualised systems13:26
nrdbI have just setup a KVM with libvirt :-) ... now I want to add a bridge in the host just for the VMs to use (i.e. not connected to the LAN) .... how can I do this?13:27
compdocnrdb, a virtual network should already exist13:28
ikonianrdb: that is setup by default on the private lan13:28
dandan_TJ-: The contents of usr/include/linux/version.h is: #define LINUX_VERSION_CODE 197170 #define KERNEL_VERSION(a,b,c) (((a) << 16) + ((b) << 8) + (c))13:28
TJ-dandan_: My bet is, you've not set the include directories correctly in your build scripts and instead of reading the "linux/version.h" relative to your Android kernel source-code root directory, they're reading from the host system13:28
nrdbcompdoc, it does but it has a dhcp etc.. allready going on it, and NATs to the internet... I don't want this.13:29
asandyzhi13:29
TJ-dandan_: Best thing to do is capture make's build messages to a log-file and review it to check13:29
YowlTJ-: Is the space within set, like a partitions is?13:29
compdocnrdb, you can create another virtual net without nat. called isolated13:29
compdocor delete teh default and recreate it13:29
asandyzcan anybody say where i can find irc channel for bash programming?13:30
TJ-Yowl: I suggest you read up on operating system fundamentals regarding block devices and encryption, these questions really are outside Ubuntu support13:30
dandan_TJ-: I am running this Ubuntu in a Virtualbox virtual machine. The makefile was already generated by Samsung so I just followed their instructions to build (which are short, just ARCH=arm and then set the def_config file and then "make" and all should work, which it was doing, but now not13:30
k1l!alis | asandyz13:30
ubottuasandyz: alis is a services bot that can help you find channels. Read "/msg alis help list" for help and ask any questions about it in #freenode. Example usage: /msg alis list #ubuntu* or /msg alis list *http*13:30
nrdbcompdoc, ok ... but how do I setup /etc/network/interfaces to do that... I have tried a couple of guesses but they didn't work.13:30
asandyzubottu:  thanks13:31
ubottuYou're welcome! But keep in mind I'm just a bot ;-)13:31
ikonianrdb: you don't need to do anything13:31
TJ-dandan_: Sorry, I can't help you much more on that. My advice, as always, is capture the logs and read them and the error messages, and then work back to figure out why the bad state could have occurred13:31
ikonianrdb: libvirt already has a private lan setup when you install it13:31
asandyzubottu: :D13:31
ikonianrdb: use the libvirt interface to make an internal network if that's not what you want13:31
compdocnrdb, I use virt-manager for that. you only need to set up /etc/network/interfaces if you have a seperate nic, or need to create a bridge to the real lan13:31
dandan_TJ-: Okay, thanks, I am going to capture the output and have a look at that13:32
nrdbikonia, yes I know.. but it isn't suitable.13:32
ikonianrdb: how is it not suitable ? what's wrong with it13:32
TJ-dandan_: As I said earlier, the root cause is that LINUX_VERSION_CODE is NOT being defined, and you know the file where it *should* be defined, so focus on which file in the file-system is being read at that point and what its contents are.13:33
nrdbcompdoc, oh.... I didn't know that was there...13:33
nrdbcompdoc, I will get back to you if I have trouble..13:33
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nrdbikonia, the default is NATed to the internet ... I wanted an isolated one13:34
ikonianrdb: it doesn't have to be - it's one flag to change it13:34
dandan_TJ-: Do you have any idea why upgrading packages after initial distro install would break this? And why it worked previous to this?13:34
deanHey guys what ca bundle does curl use in Ubuntu? I'm trying to add a new certificate and it doesn't seem to be picking it up.13:34
dandan_TJ-: Just curious why it broke is all13:34
asandyzHp cooling technology , is it useable by ubuntu?13:35
ikoniaasandyz: has it is controlled/managed ?13:35
asandyzi dint get it13:35
ikoniaasandyz: how is it used, is it a hardware device, a software device,13:35
TJ-dandan_: The only thing I can imagine that'd be obvious is if a new linux-headers packages is installed13:36
asandyzikonia:  its hardware device, came with Hp ( win8) pre installed13:36
dandan_I think that is what happened!13:36
ikoniaasandyz: so what is the device called, does it have linux support ?13:36
YowlTJ-: Just is the space within when using truecrypt flexible or static, yes or no?13:37
dandan_TJ-: LINUX_VERSION_CODE   IS defined in that file, so why is it saying its not?13:38
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ikoniawhy is this anything to do with ubuntu ?13:38
TJ-dandan_: If that is the case I suspect your build script is picking up a new header file. Try this, to find any system-level versions: "ls  /lib/modules/*/build/include/linux/version.h"13:40
dilanhola13:40
dandan_TJ-: I get this output: ls: cannot access /lib/modules/*/build/include/linux/version.h: No such file or directory13:41
TJ-dandan_: OK, so that file doesn't exist in the system... might explain your issue, *if* that is the one your build script expects. You really need to ask the build-script creators/maintainers though.13:42
dilanhi13:43
YowlTJ-: Did you see my question?13:43
dilanhello13:43
tmacfalconbloody monday13:43
TJ-Yowl: I told you earlier, you need to go do our own research if it is important. It is not an Ubuntu related support issue.13:44
dandan_TJ-: Ok, well I doubt I will get a response from Samsung any time soon.. Do you have any suggestions to fix it?13:45
YowlTJ-: Just looking for a simple yes/no as to whether the space is static. It is something I am trying to do with ubuntu, even if it might not be something specific with ubuntus files. And it would take you less time to answer then it would to say that13:45
TJ-dandan_: Find other people in the Android community that are using that same source-code bundle13:46
dandan_TJ-: When I run apt-get upgrade, I get this: The following packages have been kept back:   linux-headers-generic-lts-raring linux-image-generic-lts-raring 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 2 not upgraded.13:46
TJ-dandan_: Try using "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"13:46
dilanquien habla español13:46
dandan_TJ-: Could that be why I have issues?13:47
TJ-!es | dilan13:47
ubottudilan: En la mayoría de los canales de Ubuntu, se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español entre al canal #ubuntu-es; escriba "/join #ubuntu-es" (sin comillas) y presione intro.13:47
TJ-dandan_: Well yes, since the linux-headers packages contain that file amongst others :)13:47
dandan_TJ-: Silly linux, why does it hold back those two updates?13:48
TJ-dandan_: But there's something wrong with your build environment if the host's include files are being read. The only files that should be read are the Android device's kernel source tree!13:48
TJ-dandan_: apt holds back anything that is a "new" package - i.e., not just an existing package with a version update.13:48
dilanquit13:49
dandan_TJ-: Thank you for all the help. Do you have any advice or resources on setting up a build environment? I've followed some tutorials from XDA and other sites to setup an Android build environment and it was working until my apt-get upgrade.13:50
TJ-dandan_: XDA is the place if any13:50
TJ-dandan_: I wrote on article on cross-building for Android on Ubuntu a while back. It may not be entirely up-to-date but it might help you: http://tjworld.net/wiki/Linux/Kernel/ARMCrossCompileOnIntel13:51
dandan_TJ-: I just looked in my kernel source tree, under include/linux/version.h and indeed #define LINUX_VERSION_CODE is blank :/13:52
TJ-dandan_: That explains it then :) do a "grep -rn LINUX_VERSION_CODE *.h" starting at the root of your Android kernel source tree, see which if any files mention it13:53
nykerwhat versions of ios are supported in ubuntu 13.04?13:59
ikonianone13:59
ikoniathere is no official apple support13:59
fidelios as in cisco or ios as in apple?13:59
fidel;)13:59
ep103so when I install now, I don't specify root / home / swap sizes?13:59
deibuji hi guys, i have a vm running under KVM, and i've created a new virtio disk drive, which i've created the partition and file system for, will mount if I manually mount it, but it won't mount it automatically if I mount it using fstab. i'm using labels to mount the disk in fstab13:59
nykerhow about ifuse and libmobiledevice?13:59
ikoniadeibuji: mount it where, in the host or the guest ?14:00
deibujiikonia: sorry, should have said, in the guest14:00
ikoniadeibuji: what's the error ?14:00
deibujiikonia: there is no error14:01
ikoniadeibuji: then it's mounted14:01
deibujiikonia: it isn't. i've checked mount and it doesn't show14:01
deibujiikonia: i've also done mount -a and I get no errors14:02
ikoniadeibuji: can you pastebin your fstab from the guest please.14:02
kostkonnyker, raring has libimobiledevice3 1.1.4. you could check which devices are supported bu that version14:03
kostkon!info libimobiledevice3 raring14:03
ubottulibimobiledevice3 (source: libimobiledevice): Library for communicating with the iPhone and iPod Touch. In component main, is optional. Version 1.1.4-1ubuntu6.2 (raring), package size 50 kB, installed size 144 kB14:03
deibujiikonia: i think i might have just done a massive noob mistake... i've mounted the other driver as /14:03
deibujidrive(14:03
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zhaoluhello14:04
zhaolu?14:04
zhaoluanyboby?14:05
Funkthi there anyone know how i can make the thumbs bigger in the file browser14:05
DJones!anybody | zhaolu14:05
ubottuzhaolu: A high percentage of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..." Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? See also !details, !gq, and !poll.14:05
fidel!ask | zhaolu14:06
ubottuzhaolu: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience14:06
deibujiikonia: sorry about that. i feel like one of my users! cheers :)14:06
foofoobarHi. I just got a new notebook with ubuntu. It has a HD screen, so all content is really small. I remember there was some feature on apples osx where you can "adapt" content to retina (so it looks bigger)14:10
foofoobarIs there such a feature for ubuntu, too ?14:10
ikoniafoofoobar: what is the resolution of the screen ?14:11
CTravainciao14:12
foofoobarikonia, 1920x1080 I think14:13
foofoobarThere is no option to set it lower14:13
deibujilol yep, rebooted and it's there cheers ikonia .was looking at it and thinking 'what have I done wrong?! where's the error message'. cheers.:)14:13
ikoniafoofoobar: just increase the font size,14:14
amunoz Hi, Can someone who is using gnome 3.10 and the gnome-tweak-tool reproduce this bug?14:15
amunozhttps://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=70959714:15
ubottuGnome bug 709597 in general "No notification about required logout / reboot" [Normal,Unconfirmed]14:15
pgibHello. I have an Ubuntu machine where the display goes "out of range" immediately after posting, I don't even see a Grub prompt or kernel uncompress.14:15
pgibUnfortunately, there is no SSH server running either.  Any nifty ways to get it to boot with a normal 80x25 char video mode?14:15
foofoobarikonia, ok, I will try14:16
dandan_TJ-: I have added the linux version code to kernel_source_tree/include/linux/version.h and I am still getting the same MAKE error on line 32 of stackprotector.h14:16
hermeneuticduehihi14:17
lucenutAnyone here dabbled with ubuntu-touch?14:17
foofoobarikonia, where do I increase the font size?14:18
foofoobarIs there some general setting for this?14:19
lsvruniversal access, large font button?14:19
ikoniafoofoobar: is there nothing in the settings on this ?14:19
lsvrdash,universal,select large fonts14:19
foofoobarok14:21
foofoobarthis looks a bit strange, cause window title etc. keep the same14:21
TJ-dandan_: Which suggests that's not the file your build scripts are actually reading. You'll need to enable make debug logging and trace which files are being read, and correct any errors in the tree root being assumed14:21
lsvrfoofoobar: logging out and in again may fix that (can't remember)14:22
foofoobarok I try, ty14:23
zexcrizcan i have multiple instance of ubuntu running side by side ?14:23
zexcrizsame version 13.04 ?14:23
TJ-foofoobar: I think the setting you need is the one that adjusts the DPI (dots per inch) but like so many other useful features, Gnome-settings and Unity have removed them from the GUIs so you'll need to find and change them using dconf-editor, if they still exist14:24
dandan_TJ-: How do I enable make debug logging?14:26
TJ-dandan_: I think you need to immerse yourself in the build system documentation, to understand it... make especially, but also gcc and the kernel's specific build system. You're out of your depth right now.14:27
hayhi all.. is there a way to add a patch file to a installed package via "apt-get install" command? Or do I have to compile and install app from source?14:28
dandan_TJ-:  Ok I appreciate that, any idea on a starting point?14:28
pgibmeh.. no ideas on this video issue? I was hoping there might be some key to smash for Grub to make it use a more normal graphics mode14:29
TJ-dandan_: XDA of course, the AOSP web-site has some great tutorials on building Android, and the ##linux channel here might help14:29
pgibblindly editing kernel boot lines doesn't seem practical. I guess I need to try booting from another device14:29
TJ-pgib: If you can get to the GRUB boot menu with the shift key held down, you can add "nomodeset" to the kernel's command line14:30
dandan_TJ-: Thank you for your help... You can understand my frustration when at first it worked, I compiled a working kernel that booted on my Galaxy Note 3, and then I update Ubuntu and it breaks :(14:30
pgibok, shift key will cause grub to be interactive? thanks TJ-14:30
TJ-pgib: If the screen is out-of-range when BIOS/firmware hands over to GRUB, that suggests the BIOS/firmware has put the GPU into graphics mode, and therefore check the settings in BIOS/firmware14:31
semitonesI think my flash drive is broken. fdisk says /dev/sdb is read only. What else could cause this?14:31
semitones(btw I don't have any important data on it)14:31
TJ-dandan_: Yeah... I think actually you were 'lucky' in that the Ubuntu linux-headers happened to match what the build system was looking for14:31
pgibTJ-, Ok, I'll check that too. If I choose an incorrect device to boot from, then I do at least get the blinking cursor at row 0 col 0 after bootstraping14:32
TJ-pgib: I suspect GRUB is configured to use graphics mode and uses the wrong one. If you can boot once, edit /etc/default/grub and enable "GRUB_TERMINAL=console" then "sudo update-grub"14:33
pgibYeah, I'll see if the Shift key trick works, otherwise I'll boot from a Live CD, edit /etc/default/grub as you mention (thanks, I would have missed that one) and menu.lst or whatever to make sure the kernel mode is right too14:35
schnitzlhi. what is the smartest way to make an image of a win ssd. i googled. partimage does not work (experimental ntfs support), dd seems NOT to be an good idea because it writes 0 blocks and i use an ssd. any ideas? (i could use clonezilla, but since i have a running ubuntu partiotion i dont want to prepare another usb drive)14:35
pgibschnitzl wait.. you want to make an image file from a SSD device?14:35
TJ-pgib: If the system has grub2 then there is no menu.lst. The "update-grub" regenerates "/boot/grub/grub.cfg"14:35
schnitzlpgib,  exactly. like a backup image from a windows ssd.14:36
pgibschnitzl, so what is wrong with dd?14:36
schnitzlit writes,as far as i read, all the blocks, even if they are unused (0), which is not good for ssd devices.14:36
TJ-schnitzl: Using dd, look at the "sparse" option that seeks over NUL blocks14:36
pgibI don't see why zero blocks are a problem unique to SSD though...14:37
schnitzli must have overread this... i should do my homework better :) thanks.14:37
pgibyou are just reading, ==14:37
OerHekspgib +114:37
schnitzlits mentioned especially int he german ubuntu wiki14:37
schnitzlwith a big "!"14:37
pgibperhaps writing zero blocks to a SSD is dumb, but I don't see a problem with reading14:37
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schnitzlwell. pgib someday...i have to write it back...14:38
semitonescan I find out why /dev/sdb is read only?14:38
pgibthen you use sparse when dd'ing from the image to the disk14:39
pgibyou don't really need it when reading14:39
schnitzlok, perfect. thanks mate.14:39
schnitzldd if=/dev/sdb | gzip > ~/image-compress_sdb.img.gz   this makes sense, does it?14:39
TJ-Errr, yes you might want it on reading! So that the back-up image file is sparse... saves space14:40
ikoniaschnitzl: no14:40
pgibschnitzl, I'd probably set a blocksize14:40
schnitzlokay okay. so i want it on reading too..?! :((14:40
ikoniaand an "outfile"14:40
pgibikonia, it doesn't need of=14:40
pgibit writed to stdout by default14:40
ikoniapgib: does it ?14:40
pgibafaik, yes14:40
schnitzlhaha.14:40
pgibotherwise you couldn't make a pipeline14:41
TJ-schnitzl: Unless you don't mind the file you're creating containing a lot of nothing (if the source device has a lot of emptiness)14:41
ikoniapgib: ahh tht's true,14:41
pgibor, you'd need something like -of=--14:41
schnitzlTJ-, i dont want that. dont have space to waste14:41
pgibI mean of=--14:41
MangaKaDenzaallright14:41
MangaKaDenzaSo I want to play wma files14:41
MangaKaDenzain rythymbox14:41
MangaKaDenzaor whatever14:41
MangaKaDenzabut it dont work none14:42
pgibTJ-, the image is being gzipped, that should nicely compress most of those runs of zero bytes, no?14:42
TJ-pgib: If writing to stdout ... not sure how sparse would work :D14:43
pgibTJ-, but he just needs to sparse when writing14:43
TJ-pgib: schnitzl sparse is probably a Non-Op for stdout14:43
asdf999Hello everybody, can somebody please explain why I'm getting black screen (fivth time) when trying to install drivers for AMD 7950, tried via software center and terminal (but via proptiery drivers and open tested) on Xubuntu 13.0414:43
osakasahello, when you get a lot of bug report about rhythbox crashes after playing one song (:D) in ubuntu 13.10, it can be fixed by setting crossfade duration and time 0,0 seconds14:43
OerHeksMangaKaDenza, wma+drm might not play, check it with VLC14:43
osakasawell "fix" but that helps you to play even more than one song14:44
OerHeks!13.10 | osakasa14:44
ubottuosakasa: Ubuntu 13.10 (Saucy Salamander) will be the 19th release of Ubuntu. Announcement: http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/1252 - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1. Release date will be 17th October 2013.14:44
MangaKaDenza:>14:44
MangaKaDenzahmm14:44
MangaKaDenzawat aboot mp4 ?14:44
schnitzland just plain and simple dd if=/dev/sda of=/dev/sdb TJ- pgib and all the others :D14:44
pgibTJ-, I was thinking  dd if=/dev/foo bs=1024 | gzip > foo.img ; then later: gunzip foo.img | dd of=/dev/bar bs=1024 sparse14:45
TJ-schnitzl: for writing to another block device, using "sparse" and something like "bs=100M" would be optimum14:45
TJ-schnitzl: Make the block-size as large as RAM allows, I've used 2G before now for moving TB-sized images about effeciently14:46
pgibhmm.. but wouldn't that require a run of 100M zeros to be considered a zero block?14:46
schnitzlwhat does the block size make? like the size of the files copied?14:46
pgibthus, sparse wouldn't be as effective14:46
pgibI'd pick the block size used natively by the SSD's controller personally14:46
schnitzli have 8gb ram. the disk i want to clone is a new plain and simple win8.1 installation..maybe 10 gigs?? not sure.14:46
TJ-schnitzl: Larhe block-size means the read operation can vacuum up loads of sectors in one operation (resulting in multi-sector reads)14:47
lesshastewhat is the ubuntu dev channel?14:47
pgibbut, it also means that one byte set in a 100M region will still cause 100M minus one byte of zeros to be written14:47
TJ-lesshaste: The place where Ubuntu OS developers and packages communicate14:47
lesshastego tit14:47
asdf999Hello everybody, can somebody please explain why I'm getting black screen (fivth time) when trying to install drivers for AMD 7950, tried via software center and terminal (but via proptiery drivers and open tested) on Xubuntu 13.0414:49
TJ-pgib: I thought that dd's "sparse" flag simply sets the sparse flag on the underlying target block device14:49
pgibTJ-, according to my man page, it causes dd to seek the write file past blocks of null bytes14:51
lesshastewhat is happening with xpdf? It is 100% broken in 13.04  but this doesn't seem to be urgent . is it now deprecated as a pdf viewer?14:51
pgibthus, if you are working with the SSD's native block size, that seek would probably prevent the SSD's controller from allocating a block14:51
mgedminxpdf is in universe; it was never officially supported14:52
mgedminyou do not like Evince?14:52
lesshastemgedmin, ah.. I didn't know universe was unsupported!14:52
pgibbut.. I could be wrong.14:52
TJ-pgib: Yeah, which on a sparse-enabled block file-system should cause no NUL blocks to be allocated14:52
oo_miguelso finally I managed to install the firmware for my wlan0 interfae and can proceed with the installer. however after selecting a mirror. the complete screen is just magenta, with a gray line at the bottom, where i just can type, without any effect14:52
TJ-pgib: Amazing how complicated it can get!14:52
oo_miguelit seems the installer hangs or crashed here14:52
mgedminunsupported by Canonical, to be precise; another way of saying "supported by the Ubuntu community" which, apparently, doesn't care about xpdf enough to fix it14:52
pgibyeah..14:53
mgedmin(I didn't even know it was broken; I haven't used xpdf in _years_)14:53
schnitzlTJ-, ask me about it... :((14:53
TJ-schnitzl: :D14:53
schnitzlyou guys know what you are talking about..14:53
schnitzlbut me just loling14:53
schnitzl;)14:53
* TJ- rolls eyes ... you think?14:53
schnitzlhehe seems so.14:54
pgibschnitzl, anyway, You are safe to make you image right now without any concerns14:54
pgibjust do the recipe you or I suggested, and that should be fine, use a larger blocksize if it makes it faster, it doesn't matter14:55
lololBest programming language for begineeerssss??14:55
lololneed some thoughts14:55
somsip!best | lolol14:55
ubottulolol: Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose, depending on your preferences, features you require, and other factors. Do NOT take polls in the channel. If you insist on getting people's opinions, ask BestBot in #ubuntu-bots.14:55
pgibyou just want to be more careful when writing. (ideally the block size you choose will be aligned with the size of your SSD's allocation units)14:55
lololsompsip : what did you say?14:56
OerHekslolol, english, and irc'ing as root is risky.14:56
schnitzldo you think the "all in one tools" like clonezilla image would to a better job than dd?14:56
pgiband actually, choosing your filesystem's block-size could be a good pick, since that is the least-common-denominator14:56
pgibschnitzl, not better. maybe simpler14:57
SonikkuAmericaschnitzl: dd is rather straightforward, just a little more terminal-savvy14:58
schnitzli would like that. yea.14:58
zhaolu有没有中文14:59
pgibschnitzl: dumpe2fs /dev/foo | grep 'Block size'14:59
schnitzldump2fs ?14:59
pgibThat is the block size of your ext2 filesystem.  It is probably fairly small (4096 or so)14:59
pgibschnitzl: dumpe2fs14:59
rypervenche!cn | zhaolu14:59
ubottuzhaolu: 如欲獲得中文的協助,請輸入 /join #ubuntu-cn 或 /join #ubuntu-tw14:59
schnitzli want to backup a ntfs win partition ;)15:00
pgiboh yeah.. I forgot15:00
pgibstupid filesystems15:00
schnitzli want to clone the whole drive....so i just go with this: dd if=/dev/sdb bs=100M | gzip > ~/image-compress_sdb.img.gz15:01
schnitzlwell clone: "clone to an image"15:01
pgibyeah, that will clone the whole drive.  are you sure you wish to restore the whole drive though?15:01
pgibpartition table and all15:02
schnitzli dont want to install my basic windows system as soon is wasted it. so i just installed win8.1 + drivers + some basic tools. the idea is to just recover the image i made with dd and not to go through the whole install process again.15:02
pgibok, as long as your destination drive is at least as large as the source15:03
pgibI suppose you may be able to grow or add a partition in windows afterwards15:03
schnitzlexternal 1tb usb3.0, yes. it is ;)15:03
pgiba 1TB SSD? wow15:03
schnitzland it shouldnt copy the empty blocks, does it? i dont want an imag eof 100gb of zeros15:04
pgibschnitzl, you will have an image of 100gb of zeros, but it should compress nicely15:04
MangaKaDenzaktanks15:04
oo_miguelwhat can be the reason for the installation hanging after selecting a mirror just with a gray line at the bottom, where i can type without any effect... the computer i am trying to install ubunut on does not have any harddisks, might this be the reason?15:04
schnitzland how to change that, i mean, when i decompress and rewrite the image to the disc, it will write the zeros, or can i prevent that?15:05
pgibyou want to prevent it with sparse, as mentioned before15:05
boyslimgalera to com ubuntu 11.10 quero atualizalo para o mais recente via terminal tem como fazer isso,me deem essa força galera15:05
schnitzlsparse. ok. gonna read about that.15:06
schnitzlthank you man :D15:06
pgibmaybe something like   gunzip foo.gz | dd of=/dev/new bs=4k sparse15:06
schnitzlthis bs thing still is weird for me. i dont understand why it just doesnt make it like the original.15:06
schnitzli have no idea how to find the "optimum"15:06
pgib"make it like original"?15:06
schnitzluse the same bs as the original15:07
schnitzllike the source**15:07
pgibschnitzl, the original what?15:07
pgibblock size for dd just means how big of a chunk does it copy at a time15:07
leandroalwhat package should I have to install to allow acroread understand asian fonts? It says that it is necessary to install Japonese Language Fonts...15:08
pgibsome multiple of the source's sector size should be appropriate15:08
schnitzlahh ok.15:08
pgibhowever, you need a balance if you want sparse to work effectively15:08
pgibif you did bs=1g, then even if a single bit is true in that whole 1 gigabyte block, the block will be written, zeros and all15:09
pgibversus something like bs=4k, only a 4k block will be written for a single 1 bit. all the other blocks will be skipped15:09
schnitzli can make it pretty small i think, since i have fast hardware + the source is small15:09
pgibyeah.. it would be a one-time cost for you during the restore15:10
schnitzlthats ok. i mean are we talking about hours, or more minutes...what does a fresh out of the box windows install weight? maybe 10 gigs...so thats nothing15:11
schnitzli will go with 100mb. seems "smart" to me. but now, thanks to you guys, i udnerstand a little bit of that process.15:11
pgibI'd probably go down further for the restore, but that's just me15:12
ramindiahey all iam having issue sun quad port cards15:13
schnitzlpgib,  what do you think?15:13
schnitzlsuggest*15:13
ramindiathe mac address keep in changeing15:13
ramindiasun 501 5406 model15:13
ramindianot able to bind the cards15:15
ramindiafor specific interface..the MAC keep changing15:15
schnitzlpgib, check this out. intersting: http://superuser.com/questions/234199/good-block-size-for-disk-cloning-with-diskdump-dd15:16
pgibI'd chose the smallest possible before it is super fucking slow15:17
ikoniapgib: tone down the language please.15:17
pgib? ok15:17
pgibYou want to avoid the SSD allocating empty blocks15:17
ramindiaSUN 501-5460 sorry15:17
* ochawkeye slaps pgib around a bit with a large trout15:18
schnitzlhehe yea. so i am with 10megs.15:18
ikoniaochawkeye_: don't need that sort of thing please, don't15:18
pgib(bs when creating the image is not important in this regard, choose something big, maybe 32M or so)15:18
pgibI'd say around 64k is a good compromise when restoring15:19
schnitzlok15:19
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r4nd0mhey guys15:25
r4nd0mi am new in UBUNTU unvierse ^15:25
r4nd0mand i have a question15:25
r4nd0msimple question ^^15:25
r4nd0mmaybe someone could help :)15:26
r4nd0mthat would be aswome15:26
ikoniayou need to ask a question to get an answer15:26
r4nd0m;)15:26
r4nd0mi tryed to start tor15:26
r4nd0mi downloadet in the software center15:26
r4nd0mtor & interface15:27
mn3na3aquestion, what is the usage of Timidity?15:27
r4nd0mwhen i open VALADIA15:27
r4nd0merror: could not start tor - check options15:28
r4nd0mmenu1: starting tor when Vidalia starting - :/usr/sbin/tor15:29
r4nd0mi click - ok15:29
r4nd0merror : couldnt save cause ControlSocket pfad insnt existing15:30
r4nd0mi think the problem is : "/car/run/tor/control" isnt existing15:31
Pinkamena_DHello, I just swapped my ubuntu drive to a toshib a laptop and now after being on the desktop for a minute or so the screen turns to a bunch of pixels and no connands will respond15:32
r4nd0mwas ist ein ControlSocket15:32
r4nd0mwhat is a ControlSocket15:32
cgtdk!de | r4nd0m15:32
ubottur4nd0m: In den meisten Ubuntu-Kanälen wird nur Englisch gesprochen. Für deutschsprachige Hilfe besuche bitte #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #edubuntu-de oder #ubuntu-at. Einfach "/join #ubuntu-de" eingeben. Danke für Dein Verständnis!15:33
Pinkamena_Dctrl alt f1 and chat using irssi like right now it does not freeze15:33
Pinkamena_Dsomething about x15:33
geakhelo15:35
r4nd0mcould someone help me to start TOR please!15:36
cgtdk!patience r4nd0m15:36
cgtdk!patience | r4nd0m15:36
ubottur4nd0m: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com/ or http://ubuntuforums.org/ or http://askubuntu.com/15:36
r4nd0mya thx15:37
MonkeyDustr4nd0m  tor is no match for NSA, if that's what you want it for15:38
geakwhy ubuntu? we have debian15:39
cgtdkgeak: Go away15:39
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cgtdk!offtopic | geak15:39
ubottugeak: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!15:39
fishcookeri've 13.04 box with vnc server how to make the box screen show the as same as on the remote box ?15:39
geakwhy go away?15:40
Ari-Yang!12.1015:40
ubottuUbuntu 12.10 (Quantal Quetzal) is the current stable release of Ubuntu. Download http://releases.ubuntu.com/12.10/ - Release notes: http://ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes/12.10 - Support in #ubuntu15:40
Ari-Yanghuh, 12.10's EOL is  April 2014 :o15:41
cgtdkgeak: It's an annoying question and it's off topic. This is a support channel.15:41
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geakno topic?15:45
Picigeak: This channel is for Ubuntu support only.15:45
PiciIt is not a discussion channel.15:45
geakok15:46
Ari-Yanggeak: for offtopic discussion, there's #ubuntu-offtopic15:46
Ari-Yangthat's like the lounge15:46
geakthx15:46
Ari-Yangnp~15:46
geaknp?15:47
dman777_alteri install conntrack, but the table /proc/net/ip_conntrack is still missing. i verified with lsmod the module is loaded15:47
Ari-Yanggeak: np == no problem15:48
geaksorry i am a mars15:49
daniel11Hello my friend's windows computer wont boot. I have suggested he install ubuntu and we are currently looking at a USB live system, which is running on the computer where we will install ubuntu. We want to back up his windows files first, but his NTFS partition has auto-mounted and cant be read (sudo blkid confirms it is NTFS). the command ls gives a "Input/Output Error" on the mount point.15:50
TJ-dman777_alter: Have you configured netfilters conntrack rules?15:50
daniel11are we essentially looking at a fucked ntfs partition then? any other things to try?15:50
dman777_alterTJ-: no, i thought it kept track of all connections regardless.15:50
dman777_alterTJ-: i don't have any ip tables rules on my gentoo system and /proc/net/ip_conntrack populates15:51
TJ-dman777_alter: Are other nf_conntrack_* modules also loaded?15:51
OerHeksdaniel11, install ntfs-3g to access the NTFS partition15:52
daniel11thanks oerheks15:52
dman777_alterTJ-: not on ubuntu15:52
OerHeks!ntfs-3g15:52
ubottuntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions15:52
TJ-dman777_alter: That might explain it... looking at 2 of my servers with the table present, there are lots of nf_conntrack_* modules in use15:52
mrrcphow to i tell ssh in terminal not to use my pub key15:53
mrrcpso i can test fail2ban15:53
daniel11thanks we are also getting a weird graphical glitching error when we press the launcher button...15:54
daniel11reluctant to install ubuntu unless we can solve that problem..15:54
jitendrajkjljlj15:55
jitendrahi15:55
dman777_alterTJ-: ok, thanks. i thoguht nf_conntrack was depcrecated15:56
kongthapi got power failure and got read only file system when login, so i did boot with Live USB and use "sudo fsck -y -c -f /dev/sda5", fsck scanned my root partition and fixed some errors, i can boot into system almost as normal but i "still periodically get read only file system", what else should i do?15:56
daniel11any ideas about the graphical glitching problem?15:56
TJ-dman777_alter: I'm looking on 12.04 servers15:56
geakhow to hide the userlist15:56
the-noobanyone installed vagrant on ubuntu ? I'm getting a strange error15:56
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icahomrrcp: ssh -o PreferredAuthentications="password" user@host15:59
joshuhi on ubuntu desktop 13.04 i can't find how to enable the vnc server? has it changed since 12.04?16:07
ikoniaI didn't know vnc server was installed by default16:08
joshuhi ikonia I might be mistaken but I thought prior to 12.04 there was a setting to enable the vnc server. Anyway in 13.04 I need to install it, correct?16:10
ikoniajoshu: no idea, I just didn't know it was installed by default16:11
lololPython vs Pascal?16:12
ikoniais nothing to do with this channel16:12
joshuikonia this is what I meant…"vino" https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNC/Servers16:13
dvineonehi everyone how is it going?16:13
joshujust found it "remote sharing"16:13
slipkyhello.. i have a ubuntu-server-12.04 running openldap and cups.. it is possible to make a windows client be asked for ldap authentication everytime that he send a job to the printer?16:14
lololikona : where can i get that can of choosing help?16:15
ikoniaslipky: maybe with a pam rule ?16:15
lololkind of *16:15
ikonialolol: no idea, not here though, so please stop asking language V language questions16:15
lololok :)16:15
sh4rm4hi, what's the package name for libsdl-audio-dev ?16:16
kostkon!find libsdl16:16
ubottuFound: libsdl1.2-dbg, libsdl1.2-dev, libsdl1.2debian, erlang-esdl, libsdl-console, libsdl-console-dev, libsdl-gfx1.2-4, libsdl-gfx1.2-dev, libsdl-gfx1.2-doc, libsdl-gst (and 27 others) http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=libsdl&searchon=names&suite=raring&section=all16:16
slipkyikonia: i will search about that.. thanks16:17
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Wall543116:22
kongthapi got power failure and got read only file system when login, so i did boot with Live USB and use "sudo fsck -y -c -f /dev/sda5", fsck scanned my root partition and fixed some errors, i can boot into system almost as normal but i "still periodically get read only file system", what else should i do?16:24
_-^GeddY_LeE^bNchi16:25
systimekongthap: it's possible you may have to re-install.  fsck doesn't fix everything 100% of the time.16:26
kongthapsystime: is it possible to re-install with all current setting  backup and restore???16:27
systimekongthap: I would recommend backup up what you can and using it for reference as you put the system back together.16:28
kongthapsystime: what can i use for backup???16:29
systimekongthap: I prefer cpio, you could also use tar, I'm sure there are other ways16:30
ramindiaany help on mac address issue sun 501 5406 model quad port ethernet pci16:30
ActionParsnipramindia: what is the issue?16:31
keanehsiaowould like to ask, I am facing "fork: Cannot allocate memory" problems, I now use 7g and machine is 32g. so it still has 25g. I create like 80 running instance. but couldn't think of any reason,  what are the possible reasons to cause it?16:31
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ActionParsnipkeanehsiao: what causes the warning?16:31
ikoniakeanehsiao: what application are you trying to run16:32
ikoniait could be as simple as requiring a shard memory segment,16:32
keanehsiaoActionParsnip: once I start 80 instance.  I run 30 at it was fine, and I create another 50 may cause the problem.16:32
keanehsiaoikonia: ruby instance, write by my own.16:32
ActionParsnipkeanehsiao: have you asked in the ruby channel?16:33
ActionParsnipkeanehsiao: are there any bugs reported?16:33
keanehsiaoikonia: it works fine to create 20 instance on 4g ram machine, and may run up to 4g all, and still works fine.16:33
grendal-primehey guys..pocketsphinx_tidigits works and i can get numbers to text ok..but the pocketsphinx_continuous to work16:33
ActionParsnipkeanehsiao: what is the output of:  cat /etc/issue; uname -m16:33
ikoniakeanehsiao: are you hitting a process count limit for example ?16:33
kongthapsystime: thanks16:33
keanehsiaoActionParsnip: I think ruby program itself may works fine16:33
systimekongthap: np16:33
keanehsiaoikonia: perhaps, but I set anything I can image to a high number,  ex ulimit,  limit.h and some more16:34
ikoniakeanehsiao: limit.h - is a header, that won't change anything on the system16:34
ActionParsnipkeanehsiao: what is the output of:  cat /etc/issue; uname -m16:35
keanehsiaoalso set #define PIPE_BUF     #define rtsig#define FD_SETSIZE  #define NR_OPEN16:35
ikoniakeanehsiao: that's specific to your program - again, not a system setting16:35
keanehsiaoikonia: so how can I change the process count limit?16:35
ikoniakeanehsiao: that may not be the problem, I was just giving you an example16:36
keanehsiaoActionParsnip: not sure, it still "Cannot allocate memory" so I can't do anything… let me reboot and try.16:36
ikoniayou can't do anything ??16:36
ActionParsnipkeanehsiao: also test RAM using memtest in Grub16:36
ikoniathat sounds like you may have a bad memory leak in your program16:36
LordThumperHi. Has the Unmount option been removed from Nautilus context menu? I only have Eject16:37
keanehsiaoActionParsnip: ok16:37
keanehsiaoikonia: really? but free -m said 25g left.16:37
ActionParsnipLordThumper: do you not see the safe remove feature in the Unity panel on the left?16:37
LordThumperActionParnsip: I do not want to "Safely remove". I want to unmount the volume, and leave the device (ex. /dev/sdb) available16:38
ActionParsnipLordThumper: i'd use CLI then :)16:38
gordonjcpLordThumper: unmount it, then16:38
ActionParsnipLordThumper: sudo umount /dev/sdb1    for example16:39
LordThumperYes, terminal is the only option for this common action16:39
gordonjcpLordThumper: "common" for who?16:39
ActionParsnipLordThumper: if it works, why not16:39
ActionParsnipLordThumper: most users will want to remove the device physically, so eject is sensible. I can only think a few users will want to unmount but leave the device available16:40
gordonjcpLordThumper: under what normal combination of circumstances would you want to unmount the filesystem but leave the device active, for a *removable* device?16:40
LordThumperYes but16:40
gordonjcpLordThumper: yes but nothing16:40
LordThumperEject and Unmount where both available16:40
ActionParsnipLordThumper: its not common16:40
LordThumperIn a previous build of Nautilus16:40
LordThumperGuess they removed it16:40
ActionParsnipLordThumper: you can add it with nautilus-scripts if you desire16:40
gordonjcpLordThumper: what GUI app uses an unmounted device?16:41
LordThumperGparted16:41
ActionParsnipgordonjcp: i believe nautilus had it, but it was confusing users with 2 options for the same thing16:41
LordThumperBut anyways, not blaming anyone, especially not anyone on this channel16:41
gordonjcpLordThumper: anyway it's an uncommon thing to do, way less common than "let me remove the drive"16:42
LordThumperBut it is getting annoying adding everything manually, I just had to add "Open Terminal here" context menu16:42
LordThumpergordonjcp: Yeah true16:42
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ramindiaActionParsnip: u here ?16:50
funktanyone know how i can larger thumbs when using the file browser?16:51
Akuwi have this aoutput when use sudo aptitude search, what mean B and A  ?16:53
Akuwhttp://www.pastebin.ca/246420616:53
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dandan_TJ-: I figured out what was wrong with my MAKE problems in Ubuntu16:55
TJ-dandan_: nice one :)16:55
b0xis there an app that will allow me to quickly view PSD's in ubuntu?? similar to irfanview in windows?16:55
CeraI have just installed Ubuntu 4 weeks ago, everything was working exactly fine, but now. when I log in, and enter my password, I can only see my cursor and the ubuntu orange background, my wallpaper, panels, icons take like 70-90 seconds to load up. Like, I have to wait a lot. What is this causing this problem? Here is the output of my dmesg: http://pastebin.com/mkPSa9kw16:56
b0xthey open in gimp but i dont need that functionality16:56
Shane-Swhere can I locate the apt-get log when it has an error code (1)16:56
Ceraanybody?16:57
dandan_TJ-: The problem was that I edited the Makefile SUBLEVEL number to match the original Samsung kernel string version number, because I read somewhere that the kernel magic string needs to match the original for wifi module to work properly?16:57
TJ-dandan_: aha!16:58
dandan_TJ-:  Am I not supposed to edit that number then?16:58
funktHi there in 12.04 when I choose a file in the file browser the thumbnails are sooo tiny does anyone know how I can make these larger?16:58
brontosaurusrexfunkt, ctrl + mice scroll?17:00
TJ-dandan_: It is there to describe to the source-code the version of Linux represented by the source-tree. You change that, and various #ifdef pre-processor directives will do something other than what ought to happen.17:00
TJ-funkt: I think the keyboard Ctrl++ and Ctrl+- will also control thumbnail size17:01
funkthey there thanks for getting back to me alas it doesnt work :(17:01
funktoh thanks17:01
funktill try that17:01
funktnope still nothing i'm stumped17:02
TJ-funkt: I seem to recall there is something on Nautilus' view menu about zoom +/- that also shows the hot-key combo17:02
dandan_TJ-: Guess I shouldn't willy nilly make changes to Makefile that tutorials say to do to make something else work... many thanks for your help. One other question, is there any way to get a progress reading of a MAKE job?17:02
grimerdid one of the latest patches hose any of you up with 3 monitors in twinview? the nvidia driver now seems to be ignoring my xorg.conf.17:02
TJ-dandan_: It'll depend on the build Makefile file itself - it may have options for quiet and verbose17:02
funkti'm not sure what you mean?17:03
dandan_TJ-: Ok thanks17:04
lionrougehi ^_^17:05
lionrougeis there any guide on 3d-acceleration setup in Ubuntu?17:05
manishhi17:05
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Extreminadorhi guys17:13
ioCharSethello! how can i guess what iocharset has been used for a mounted network folder via samba?17:13
Extreminadoris there any tool like "demon tools" for windows but for linux ?17:13
gartralExtreminador: for mounting isos?17:14
Extreminadorgardar, yup...17:14
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gartralExtreminador: i recomend watching who your typing to, gardar gets annoyedwhen people are responding to me17:15
Extreminadorgartral,  ups lool sorry17:16
gartralExtreminador: to answer your question, yes, its built into linux and ut's si,ply called mount17:16
Ari-YangExtreminador: Ithink there's a mount command for mounting ISOs...17:16
Ari-YangExtreminador: I think it's mount -o loop disk1.iso /mnt/disk or something17:17
Extreminadorbut can we run directly the program/software ?17:17
Ari-YangExtreminador: in terminal check out man mount or mount --help17:17
Extreminadorand yehh there is a mount on the terminal indeed17:17
OerHekshttps://apps.ubuntu.com/cat/applications/gisomount/17:17
Extreminadori will check it Ari-Yang thanks17:18
gartralExtreminador: the usage would be mount -o loop /path/to/disk.iso 0t iso 9660 /path/to/folder/mount and yes you can run contained software17:18
OerHeksor more options https://apps.ubuntu.com/cat/applications/furiusisomount/17:18
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gartraloops -t17:18
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ExtreminadorOerHeks, well since there is a mount already in-build on ubuntu i will lean how to use it17:18
Extreminadorbut thanks17:18
Extreminadorgartral, thanks17:19
lotuspsychjegood evening to all17:22
lotuspsychjeim looking for a candycrush alternative for ubuntu (like gweled)17:23
Shane-SI am trying to run apt-get upgrade and getting drive full error, when I did df -h , I see /dev/sda1 is 228M 228M 0 100% /boot, is there any easy way to expand that?17:24
RoryShane-S: You can delete files17:25
ramindiaActionParsnip : u there17:25
RoryShane-S: Can you please pastebin the output of "sudo df -h"17:25
tor_anyone know why i lost sound through HDMI? it used to work but i think an update did some bad stuff. notice how HDMI seems active to the right but not present in the list to the left http://pbrd.co/1a83O4517:25
Shane-SCan't copy from the VM console sadly, I need to enable copy and paste....waiting till 3 so I can shut down the server17:26
TJ-Shane-S: think the opposite way. Delete packages installed there. "/boot/" contains the linux kernels and associated files, which get upgraded quite often, leaving older unused versions in place. Someone else here can guide you to identifying the unused packages and removing them safely17:26
Rory!pastebinit | Shane-S17:26
ubottuShane-S: pastebinit is the command-line equivalent of !pastebin - Command output, or other text can be redirected to pastebinit, which then reports an URL containing the output - To use pastebinit, install the « pastebinit » package from a package manager - Simple usage: command | pastebinit -b http://paste.ubuntu.com17:26
RoryShane-S: In the meantime, "sudo apt-get clean"17:26
TJ-Shane-S: start with "dpkg-query -l 'linux-image*'  | grep '^ii'  " which will list installed kernel images17:26
dog-foodhow do I make a wifi access point I have atheros usb wifi ?17:27
Shane-SRory / TJ: ty17:27
TJ-Shane-S: And tell us which kernel is currently booted with "uname -r" so you don't accidentally try to delete it too!17:27
kkragothhey i tried to google this but i had no idea how. Is there a way to preview  content of folder f.x called "a" when i am doing smth like this "$ cp ~/andomfile  ~/a17:27
TJ-!hostap | dog-food17:27
TJ-!hostapd | dog-food17:28
Shane-SRory / TJ: 3.2.0.-37-generic17:28
Rorykkragoth: ls ~/a17:28
mudkip908kkragoth: press TAB a couple times17:29
resnoim looking for suggestions about union filesystems i should look into.17:30
TJ-Shane-S: Does the VM have connectivity right now? if so check if pastebinit is installed ("apt-cache policy pastebinit"). If not, install it then you can paste command output directly using, for example, "dpkg-query -l 'linux-image*'  | grep '^ii' | pastebinit"17:30
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Shane-Sokay..it isn't I setup the machine17:30
kkragothto multiple answers: i mean something like key shortcut that behaves as ls of the *a folder while still typing a command (not tab/ not | ls ~a )17:31
Shane-Scan I install it or do I need to clean up from of the /boot stuff first17:31
Shane-Sapt-get clean didn't remove anything fyi, and I have the grep output in my face17:31
TJ-Shane-S: Yes, you can install it /boot/ isn't used for anything but the linux-image* packages17:31
Shane-SI have all generics, with 3.2.0-23 up to -3717:32
Shane-Sokay17:32
TJ-!info hostapd | dog-food17:32
ubottudog-food: hostapd (source: wpa (1.0-3ubuntu1)): user space IEEE 802.11 AP and IEEE 802.1X/WPA/WPA2/EAP Authenticator. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:1.0-3ubuntu1 (raring), package size 420 kB, installed size 1063 kB (Only available for linux-any; kfreebsd-any)17:32
Shane-S*sigh* brb I am going to see if I can just enable C&P and restart this thing...pastbin has dependancies17:35
MapsRusHow do I create a user in Ubuntu which can execute all programs as root/sudo?  I hate having to gksu every app just so I can edit some config files!17:37
dandan_TJ-: Do you know why my compiled kernel works okay and creates all the necessary modules, EXCEPT FOR WIFI?17:37
willybilly0101MapsRus, and you will log in to that user each time?17:38
ezra-sdandan_, that's not an ubuntu question, but probably you havent enabled necessary modules in the config17:39
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dandan_ezra-s: As in, "make menuconfig" and look for wifi modules?17:40
lotuspsychjeMapsRus: you could also sux a program with root privileges17:40
MapsRus>willybilly0101 yes...I will login to Ubuntu and not have to worry about running gksu top open apps in sudo mode17:40
willybilly0101then enable root17:40
lotuspsychje!info sux | MapsRus17:40
ubottuMapsRus: sux (source: sux): wrapper around su which will transfer your X credentials. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.1-6 (raring), package size 9 kB, installed size 64 kB17:40
willybilly0101same security hole17:40
dog-foodon windows phone 8 wifi access poiint can be created with few taps17:41
lotuspsychjedog-food: this is ubuntu here mate17:41
ezra-sdandan_, yes17:41
ezra-sdandan_, there is one section for the drivers and there is another for wifi in general in a separate section... maybe you are missing one of the two17:42
ezra-sdandan_, which kernel version are you compiling?17:42
MapsRus>ubotto - so with sux, I can launch apps in sudo mode without going to the terminal to do so?17:43
dandan_ezra-s: I am compiling kernel for Samsung Galaxy Note 3. I downloaded the source code, have the working toolchain, the kernel compiles fine, I enabled modules so that they compile also. But no wifi...17:43
ezra-sdandan_, I have no experience compiling for mobile phones, are you sure the kernel you have has the necessary drivers enabled?17:45
Picidandan_: What does this have to do with Ubuntu?17:46
ezra-sdandan_, I believe the other sexion I was refering was where you can enable mac80211 support or similar, but don't know if that applies to your case17:46
ezra-ss/sexion/section/17:46
dandan_I was having trouble getting MAKE to work on ubuntu seemingly after I updated packages but it is working now. Sorry I don't want to clog this place with Android talk...17:47
dandan_ezra-s: Yes there is an option for 80211 do I have to enable that?17:47
Picidandan_: #android or #android-dev might be better places to ask your current questins.17:47
lotuspsychjeMapsRus: no it works same way, opening terminal/ sux username firefox17:47
ezra-sdandan_, surely, and there is more than one related to that one in the same section, but I don't recall by memory only, check menuconfig17:48
comodo_dragonbocaneri17:48
dandan_Okay, thankyou everybody for the support :)17:48
lotuspsychje!it | comodo_dragon17:49
ubottucomodo_dragon: Vai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie! (per entrare, scrivi « /join #ubuntu-it » senza virgolette)17:49
bocanericomodo_dragon, stop highlighting me.17:50
MapsRusthat's lousy...it's like having Windows UAC all over again...there must be a way to run apps as sudo without launching from a command line!17:50
gordonjcp!gksu17:50
ubottuIf you need to run graphical applications as root, use « gksudo », as it will set up the environment more appropriately. Never just use "sudo"! (See http://psychocats.net/ubuntu/graphicalsudo to know why)17:50
gordonjcpMapsRus: what are you trying to run as root?17:51
gordonjcpMapsRus: you should pretty much never have to use root17:51
MapsRusgedit, nautilus...etc17:51
gordonjcpMapsRus: okay, in pretty much every case you're probably doing something wrong17:51
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gordonjcpMapsRus: what *exactly* are you trying to do?17:51
MapsRusIf I don't, I cannot edit any config files or copy files to my web folders. etc17:51
nysochathi there17:51
gordonjcpMapsRus: is this on your desktop?17:52
gordonjcp(presumably so, since you have nautilus)17:52
comodo_dragonpizi17:52
sauraedronMapsRus, may be log in as root17:52
comodo_dragonyou ban me?17:53
gordonjcpMapsRus: set the permissions on your web directories to be writable by you17:53
lotuspsychje!ops | comodo_dragon17:53
ubottucomodo_dragon: Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - elky, Madpilot, tritium, Nalioth, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, Myrtti, mneptok, Pici,  jpds,  gnomefreak, bazhang,  Flannel, ikonia, maco, h00k, IdleOne, bkerensa, nhandler, Jordan_U, DJones or k1l!17:53
gordonjcpMapsRus: if this is on a production system, then look at "sensible" ways of deploying17:53
gordonjcpMapsRus: like maybe fabric17:53
Coreycomodo_dragon: Knock it off.17:53
MapsRusyes, I could do that ...  after I gksu nautilus :)17:53
gordonjcpMapsRus: no, do that from the command line17:54
gordonjcpit's much easier17:54
gordonjcpMapsRus: you need to do it from the command line on the server *anyway*17:54
MapsRuswhat could be easier than browsing to a folder and right clicking on it and setting permissions - FYI - you can tell I'm a big fan of GUI's17:54
nb-benhi there17:55
karab44hello17:56
nb-benI got a new Lenovo G500, trying to install from USB however neither netboot nor does liveusb work17:56
Myrtticomodo_dragon: cut it out.17:56
nb-bennetboot just fails to get past syslinux (says no boot target) and liveusb starts, but I can't see anything drawn on screen17:56
comodo_dragoni am.17:56
nb-benI can hear the logon sound when it boots but screen is just entirely blank17:56
karab44there is an option to Lock after Screen turns off. I don't want it. How to Turn off the screen on Screen Lock?17:56
nb-benI suppose perhaps I should have tried moving to terminal17:57
willybilly0101is it true that ubuntu people are republicans?17:57
lotuspsychjewillybilly0101: thats a bit offtopic mate17:57
willybilly0101ok, will ask on offtopic17:57
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DJonescomodo_dragon: You know that this channel only deals with with ubuntu support, if you have issues in other channels, please discuss them with operators from those channl;es and not in this channel17:58
comodo_dragonwhere can i chat about not support?17:58
gartral!offtopic | comodo_dragon17:59
ubottucomodo_dragon: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!17:59
comodo_dragonk17:59
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MapsRusAny idea how to modify the Ubuntu default startup programs via a GUI?18:00
lotuspsychjeMapsRus: are you on ubuntu server?18:01
joshuadempseyHi18:02
gordonjcpMapsRus: I have no idea how you'd "browse" to a "folder"18:03
gordonjcpMapsRus: what could be easier than just typing a two-word command to set the permissions?18:04
gordonjcpMapsRus: FWIW not even Windows servers use GUIs18:04
MapsRusI'm running a desktop version of Ubuntu...18:06
gordonjcpMapsRus: right, but you wouldn't be running that on a server18:06
karab44how to enable/change screensaver on 13.04?18:06
gordonjcp!screensaver | karab4418:06
karab44not available hahaha18:07
lotuspsychjekarab44: i think i had to remove gnome default screensaver18:07
gordonjcpah, ubottu no longer knows about screensavers18:07
lotuspsychjekarab44: and install xscreensaver18:07
karab44I can not find any18:07
lotuspsychje!info xscreensaver | karab4418:07
ubottukarab44: xscreensaver (source: xscreensaver): Automatic screensaver for X. In component universe, is optional. Version 5.15-2ubuntu1 (raring), package size 261 kB, installed size 852 kB18:07
kostkon!xscreensaver18:08
lotuspsychjekarab44: for more screensaver ons xscreensaver install the extras data18:09
karab44thanks! I didn't know there's no ss on ubu by default18:09
lotuspsychjekarab44: there is gnome default screensaver running as deamon, but you need to uninstall that one18:10
karab44It is not working18:10
karab44I have black screen and nothing more18:10
MonkeyDustkarab44  because the iso had to be kept small, some packages have been left out, screensavers among them18:10
karab44even small screensaver? even tiny text?18:11
karab44okay18:11
MonkeyDustkarab44  a screensaver comes up when you are away, so you are not *supposed* to see it18:11
karab44hehehe18:11
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karab44but I see my screen is black but not even turned off. It's just black background and I see it glows in the dark18:12
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Rorykarab44: Sounds like the "blank" screensaver18:14
karab44yes18:14
Rorykarab44: You can set the screento turn off in power settings18:14
karab44That's why I asked where to set something18:14
karab44Rory: no, it's not there18:15
lotuspsychjeMonkeyDust: i like phosphor running on my screen when afk :p18:16
Rorykarab44: What's not where? Are you in power options?18:17
karab44yes18:17
Rorykarab44: Mine looks like this: http://rory.sh/files/power.png18:18
karab44nope18:18
karab44O! I can se myself!18:18
Rory"nope"18:19
RoryWhat does yours look like?18:19
RoryOh wait18:19
RoryI made a huge mistake, sorry. The setting is in Screensaver18:19
karab44So terrible xscreensavers!18:20
RoryRight, I am going to stop trying to help because I assumed there was a screensaver program but it looks like it was removed from Ubuntu at some point18:21
karab44They look like winamp plugins from early 90's :D18:21
RoryAnd now I have no idea how to do it18:21
Rorykarab44: They're amazing :318:21
sauraedronkarab44, right click change desktop backgrnd->all settings->brightness lock18:21
karab44and half of them shows as not installed, even after installing extras18:22
ddosantoshello18:22
cariveriHow to change ip in use for the wlan0 interface?18:22
karab44gosh they're awful18:22
karab44bouncing cow18:23
karab44...18:23
Rorycariveri: Use Network Manager -> Edit Connections18:23
ddosantosis there any specific channel about samba?18:23
cariveriRory: I mean terminal way.18:23
Roryddosantos: #samba on Freenode18:23
ddosantosoh thanks18:23
Yansddosantos #RioDeJaneiro18:23
Eduard_MunteanuWhat's a good way to trigger an event when an USB stick is inserted? 'usbmount' seems to take care of mounting, but what about running a script?18:23
ddosantosXD18:24
RoryEduard_Munteanu: Try here? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsbDriveDoSomethingHowto18:24
Eduard_MunteanuRory: thanks18:24
kallopshow should I partition my server computer with 1 harddrive of 250 GB, intended for many virtual servers18:24
jboiihi18:24
jboiican someone help me with this ?18:25
ikoniakallops: however you feel best18:25
Eduard_Munteanukallops: boot partition + another big one, most likely. The big stuff can be LVM-ized.18:25
Rorykallops: What virtualisation software will you be using?18:25
delinquentmeare there any instances where an ubuntu code base should be looking for a .dll ... outside of a WINE application?18:25
Rorykallops: Generally just one big / partition is easiest and therefore best18:25
Eduard_Munteanukallops: you can use LVs for VM storage.18:25
Rorydelinquentme: Perhaps Mono?18:25
kallopsok thanks18:25
Roryjboii: with what?18:25
jboiithe computer hangs up and dim brightness is 50%18:25
jboiihow can i stop this18:25
Eduard_Munteanukallops: look at the thin provisioning LVM stuff, btw18:26
kallopsim learning, im dont know so much, but I guess in the future I will have plenty of virtual servers18:26
delinquentmePici, if you're around :D  Theres a *.dll question18:26
karab44I did something cool and oldschool with Extrusion screensaver! Thanks to you guys! You're the best! :)18:26
comodo_dragonjboii disable screensaver?18:26
kallopshaving partition for / and /boot and /home and /swap?18:26
Roryjboii: Are you saying that your brightness will not go above 50% ?18:27
Rorykallops: Just / and swap18:27
jboiiisnt that , that is not function , its just dim that happens when its stuck18:27
Eduard_Munteanukallops: FWIW you might not need a swap partition at all, if this is a hypervisor18:27
ikonianot having a swap partition would be unwise18:28
kostkonjboii, that happens to frozen programs18:28
kallopsI have 2gb ram, will upgrade in future to 1618:28
k1likonia: depends on the ram and on the usecase.18:28
kallopshypervisor i guess18:28
Eduard_Munteanuikonia: how so? Per-VM swap should be more flexible.18:29
ikoniak1l: I disagree18:29
Eduard_MunteanuAnd you can just swap on LV or an ext4 file.18:29
ikoniaEduard_Munteanu: per vm swap is based on disk and ram of the guest, which is actually based on disk and ram of the hypervisor, both for ram18:29
ikoniaEduard_Munteanu: so not having swap on the hypervisor to swap out idle work can have a negative impact on the guests18:29
Bronzehi, I've been trying out the new Ubuntu desktop, and I'm finding it problematic. I realize this is personal and subjective. I've been using UNIX since 1982 and I'm kind of technically oriented. I find that the menus are just too minimal to give me ready access to the things I'm looking for18:29
Bronzeare there any other ways to configure and Ubuntu system to be more complex?18:30
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Rory!kde | Bronze18:30
ubottuBronze: KDE (http://kde.org) is an open community that creates and maintains software including the Plasma desktop.  To install from Ubuntu: « sudo apt-get install  kubuntu-desktop », or see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingKDE . See  http://kubuntu.org for more information.18:30
BronzeRory: thank you Sir.18:30
gordonjcpBronze: what do you mean "more complex"?18:30
kostkonBronze, what menus? there arent any menus in ubuntu18:30
gordonjcpBronze: or better still, which desktop environment are you most used to?18:30
Bronzekostkon: well I found some. :-)18:30
Eduard_Munteanuikonia: mm, I'm not sure swapping out VM memory is a good idea. You can just use the KVM balloon driver to make memory scale according to needs.18:30
jboiiapps that are stuck  yea18:31
k1likonia: in this setup with vms i wold recommend a swap. but in my setup here on my laptop (where i dont use suspend and have 8gb ram) i dont need swap.18:31
jboiiits like a pause18:31
ikoniak1l: I still disagree, having even a small swap area can be useful even if on paper you can run everything in ram18:31
Bronzegordonjcp: well I find most of the gnome-based GUI systems to be way too constraining and simplistic. I am used to the Red Hat-based systems and I have used Debian systems and knoppix and Ubuntu before. But this new generation of interface for Ubuntu has been so simplified that I can't find menus for administering the system.18:31
ikoniaEduard_Munteanu: I disagree, but of course people have different opinions18:31
gordonjcpBronze: uhm18:32
gordonjcpBronze: so what DE were you sung in Redhat?18:32
Eduard_Munteanuikonia: fair, I guess swapping on an ext4 file is a good compromise, though. It's easier to scale than a partition.18:32
Eduard_MunteanuOr at least a LV.18:32
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Bronzegordonjcp: I've used KDE, icewm, lxde and some others18:32
gordonjcpBronze: so install lxde then18:32
BronzeI would have if I could have figured out how to. I couldn't find a menu for controlling that. :-)18:33
gordonjcpBronze: what do you need to configure?18:33
BronzeI couldn't even find a way to get a terminal up.18:33
kostkonBronze, there is the system settings option up right by pressing the gear icon or searching in the dash18:33
Eduard_MunteanuPartitions = headaches, generally.18:33
gordonjcpBronze: I don't use menus for configuring anything, fwiw18:33
gordonjcpBronze: oh, that's a lie, the network manager one is great for setting up wifi and VPNs, quite a time-saver18:33
Bronzegordonjcp: well personally I prefer to use the command line myself. But I don't always have enough knowledge for each distro18:33
RoryBronze: Ctrl + Alt + T for getting a terminal18:33
BronzeI actually had to destroy the network manager and replace it with a script.18:34
gordonjcpBronze: all the distros are all the same18:34
BronzeOK you just lost all credibility.18:34
gordonjcpBronze: just as a matter of interest, what Unix were you using in 1982?18:34
gordonjcpBronze: all *Unixes* are pretty much the same18:34
RoryBronze: This is all getting a little #ubuntu-offtopic18:34
gordonjcpnever mind Linux distros18:34
BronzeBSD, on sun workstation, and another Motorola-based system from Charles River data systems18:34
gordonjcpBronze: so if you've used for example Knoppix you ought to cope with Lubuntu18:34
BronzeOK thank you. I'll  move to another channel since we are off-topic18:35
gordonjcpBronze: #ubuntu-offtopic would be good18:35
Eduard_MunteanuHm, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsbDriveDoSomethingHowto doesn't quite cut it. The manual seems to warn against launching daemons or such stuff with RUN udev actions. Is there a better way, perhaps related to usbmount?18:36
gordonjcpBronze: try "sudo apt-get install lubuntu-desktop" which will, uh, install lubuntu desktop18:36
gordonjcpBronze: does what it says on the tin18:36
Bronzegordonjcp: that channel doesn't have enough menus :-)18:36
gordonjcpBronze: that's pretty much going to be like Knoppix for you ;-)18:36
BronzeOK. thank you.  I'm over in #lubuntu now18:36
CaelumI'm setting up a machine for an older person, what extra things do you guys suggest I install? I have chrome, gedit, amarok and auto-updates on there already.18:36
Eduard_MunteanuI figure usbmount would be the best thing to ask to notify me.18:36
ikoniaCaelum: what ever they need,18:36
ioCharSethi! how can i get to know what iocharset has been used to mount a network folder??18:36
pandaroot_what does this command do sudo chown -R root:username /home/ubuntu ?18:37
ikoniaCaelum: we can't know other peoples requirements if you don't know them18:37
Eduard_MunteanuOh!18:37
ikoniapandaroot_: changes the ubuntu users home directory to be owned by root18:37
Caelumikonia: he just mostly uses the web browser, pdfs and such18:37
Eduard_Munteanuhttp://packages.ubuntu.com/precise/all/usbmount/filelist  -- /etc/usbmount/{u,}mount.d/  !18:37
ikoniaCaelum: so install things to allow that18:37
* Caelum sighs18:37
jboiinone kno how i can stop the apps from stuck ?18:37
jboiidisplay is dim when its stuck18:39
kostkonCaelum, you could even install adobe reader if you think it would be more familiar to them than evince18:39
Eduard_MunteanuEw.18:39
pandaroot_ikonia, ok18:39
Eduard_Munteanuevince is pretty good actually18:39
Eduard_MunteanuCaelum: perhaps an office suite?18:40
comodo_dragonexcept that it cant get custom zoom. epdf view is better18:40
Eduard_MunteanuLibreOffice, say.18:40
Roryjboii: What Ubuntu version are you using?18:40
jboiiUbuntu 13.0418:40
kostkonCaelum, yeah there is even an office suite that tries to look like ms office if you are interested18:40
comodo_dragonms office is good18:42
kostkonCaelum, you could replace libreoffice with this http://wps-community.org/18:42
comodo_dragonshame you cant stop cursor from blinkin in wine/18:42
comodo_dragonthat stuff can give you seizures18:42
kostkoncomodo_dragon, ?? which app/game?18:42
comodo_dragonmsword ran in wine18:43
merzak7=)18:46
pandaroot_which is efficient virtualization technology to use to deploy multiple system  ?18:49
kallopshow many gbs for swap18:49
GalvatronHi18:49
pandaroot_i doubt virtualbox can be used for this purpose ?18:49
pandaroot_KVM would be the best choice ?18:49
joshu_I have an employee who has complained about weird artefacts on her laptop over the past week and she sent me a photo http://cl.ly/image/3m321b3A2J1g I know it's difficult to say but I'm suspecting a hardware fault perhaps the graphics card. I'm picking up the laptop and running diagnostics during the weekend, but I thought I'd ask for opinions or how to check if it might be an Ubuntu issue.18:50
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GalvatronMy 12.04.3 (Nvidia drivers) completely ignores xorg.conf and takes display settings directly from monitors.xml and \I have no idea how to change it.18:51
ikoniajoshu_: check her video card and the xorg modules being used,18:51
ikoniaGalvatron: what settings are you trying to change in xorg.conf that's it's ignoring ?18:52
joshu_ikonia for the video card when you say "check" you mean run HP diagnostics? for the xorg modules how and why would I do this?18:53
ikoniajoshu_: no, I mean check what card is in there, then compare it against the xorg modules you're using and make sure it's the best option18:53
Galvatronikonia: The resolution and refresh rate18:53
ikoniaGalvatron: what makes you think it's ignoring it ?18:54
joshu_ikonia so even if the laptop has been working fine for 2 months and the ubuntu OS has not been modified, the artefacts could still be a result of the xorg modules?18:54
ikoniajoshu_: sure, updates to happen, and usage can change,18:54
ikoniajoshu_: it's also possible there is a hardware problem too, just work the problem through18:54
Galvatronikonia: They get back to the monitors.xml values each time I restart X18:55
ikoniaGalvatron: that doesn't mean it's ignoring it, or using monitors.xml18:55
ikoniaGalvatron: how are you setting the values ?18:55
joshu_ikonia how do you compare the video card against the xorg modules?18:55
Galvatronikonia: Through the Nvidia control panel18:55
ikoniajoshu_: you look at what xorg modules are in use and check their supportability for the card you are using18:55
GalvatronI set them, save to xorg.conf reset X and I'm back on square one18:56
ikoniaGalvatron: ok, so when you save the settings, are you %100 sure that xorg.conf is being updated (eg: it needs root privileges) check the datestamp on the file18:56
joshu_ikonia right but what I don't understand is how you "look at what xorg modules are in use"?18:56
ikoniajoshu_: check the log file18:56
joshu_ok18:56
Galvatronikonia: I'm absolutely sure18:57
ikoniaGalvatron: how are you sure (I'm just understanding the problem)18:57
joshu_ikonia thanks18:57
pandaroot_which is efficient virtualization technology to use to deploy multiple system running different services  ?18:57
pandaroot_kvm or virtualbox ?18:57
ikoniapandaroot_: that's not a valid question18:57
ikoniapandaroot_: use which ever one you are comfortable using and which one meets your needs18:58
pandaroot_ikonia, sorry18:58
Galvatronikonia: For example, in monitors.xml I have 1152x864_75 and in xorg.conf I have 1024x768_85 and the NV panel displays the former value.18:59
ikoniaGalvatron: that doesn't mean you are certain it's saving to xorg.conf18:59
pandaroot_ikonia, in enterprise which one is used ? Currently i am setting up a local mirror and running webserver, so i want to virtualize those instances, on top  of my ubuntu server.18:59
GalvatronI'm certain18:59
TJ-pandaroot_: You might want to consider Xen if you're considering running multiple OS instances on a single host18:59
pandaroot_TJ-, ok19:00
ikoniapandaroot_: it's totlly up to you19:00
ikoniaGalvatron: how are you certain19:00
GalvatronI can completely remove xorg.conf and the settings remain19:00
BlazeFaiaHey. I was wondering if it was possible to have Ubuntu not go into sleep mode upon shutting the laptop's lid from the login screen. If I log in and close the lid it works but from initially turning on the machine and closing the lid that doesn't work.19:00
ikoniaGalvatron: that doesn't mean it's writing to the file - that means you've removed the file19:00
Galvatronikonia: Gimme a sec19:00
ikoniaGalvatron: just answer the question19:01
ikoniaGalvatron: Its getting pretty tedious having to ask 3 times and you answering a different question19:01
TJ-pandaroot_: xen is a bare-metal hypervisor, rather than a full OS as with KVM and VirtualBox. LXC and OpenVZ are container-based and quite lightweight19:01
jboiican someone help me with apps stuck n dim display19:04
Galvatronikonia:  I'm usunf 1152x864 @ 75Hz. Using the NV panel I can change it to whatever value I want and save it to xorg.conf. After I restart X, the set value (i.e. 1024x768 @ 85Hz) remains in xorg.conf, but the screen is back to 1152x864 @ 75Hz and that's what the NV panel shows.19:04
sammyso i've got this /etc/default/grub http://paste.ubuntu.com/6210528/ which I thought would hide the grub menu unless someone pressed a button during the 1second timer, but it shows instead. what am I missing?19:04
ikoniaGalvatron: that doesn't validate anything19:05
trismGalvatron: something must have changed on 12.04 recently, because the exact same thing happened to me yesterday, nvidia started reading xorg.conf then ignoring it and setting the default dual-monitor value19:05
ikoniaGalvatron: check the date stamp on the file19:05
trismGalvatron: I gave up and ended up deleting xorg.conf and using xrandr to switch things, would be interested if you find a bug report or anything (I didn't in a quick search)19:05
ikoniaa simple test would be to enable/disable the nvidia logo, in xorg.conf and see if it displays it / disables it19:06
ikonianvlogo is the option I believe19:06
trismthe problem I had was nothing changed in xorg/nvidia driver since last month but this just happened this weekend, kind of strange19:06
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pandaroot_TJ-, so first i will install xen on my machine and on top of it i will install the os ?19:07
ikoniapandaroot_: I suggest you do a LOT more research before going any futher19:07
BlazeFaiaAnyone know of a solution to my query?19:08
Galvatronikonia: I just changed the resolution, saved it to xorg.conf and the has changed: Modified: Tue 08 Oct 2013 09:06:42 PM CEST19:08
GalvatronSo it definitely modifies the file19:08
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ikoniaGalvatron: great, so my next suggestion was to enable/disable the nvidia logo to see if it's being used for configuration19:08
comodo_dragoni want to install Iceweasel instead of FireFox on ubuntu 13.1019:09
TJ-pandaroot_: Ubuntu has xen-enabled kernels too ... see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Xen19:09
comodo_dragon!iceweasel19:09
ubottuIceweasel's homepage is http://www.gnu.org/software/gnuzilla/ with more detailed information at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iceweasel19:09
jackall i did was "sudo apt-get install wine"...19:09
Galvatronikonia: I can delete xorg.conf and nothing changes19:09
comodo_dragonhuh this is outdated. icecat hasnt been updated since sept 2012..19:09
jackmachine is unusable now for a while19:09
Jarchy! Vlc19:09
ubottuAudio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Audacious, Banshee, Listen, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, Exaile, XMMS2 (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine - See also !codecs19:09
jackgrmbl19:10
k1l!saucy | comodo_dragon19:10
ubottucomodo_dragon: Ubuntu 13.10 (Saucy Salamander) will be the 19th release of Ubuntu. Announcement: http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/1252 - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1. Release date will be 17th October 2013.19:10
ikoniaGalvatron: please stop repeating that - it proves nothing19:10
pandaroot_ikonia, ok sir19:10
ikoniaGalvatron: read the test I'm suggesting.19:10
pandaroot_TJ-, i was just reading that link19:10
JarchyYah wopwop19:10
Galvatronikonia: Ok19:11
comodo_dragonhow do i install iceweasel? i cant get it working19:11
OerHekscomodo_dragon, ask in #ubuntu+1 as 13.10 is not out yet.19:11
repudiateHow do I change the text in my terminal?19:13
nb-beneffin hell19:14
nb-bennothing works with this lenovo G50019:14
ikonianb-ben: tone it down, there is no need for it19:14
repudiateHow do I change the text font in my terminal?19:15
zykotick9repudiate: do you mean console, or a Xorg terminal?  if xorg, which one?19:15
repudiateconsole i think?19:16
zykotick9repudiate: the f1-f6 ones?19:16
repudiateGod, I hate the learning curve for Linux, even if it's only because I'll be a noob for so long.19:16
vadiIs it possible to upgrade to Files 3.8 on Ubuntu 13.04?19:16
nb-benikonia the only person with that ability is you19:17
repudiatezykotick9: The what?19:17
Galvatronikonia: As expected, the logo doesn't react either19:17
nb-benyou're the interpreter of the text :p19:17
ikoniaGalvatron: ok, so that's a good test19:17
RoryWhat option can I add to my ssh config to avoid having to use the -t flag to connect to a particular host?19:17
ikonianb-ben: no - you said it, I'm not laughing, if you can't communite without suggesting swear words, please don't19:17
blurkisreö19:17
RoryOr how can I make it so I can run screen like "ssh hostname screen -dr" without having to do "ssh -t hostname screen -dr" - either method for the same result19:17
blurkisrepudiate, for most people there should not be that much of a learningcurve,  most things just "work"..19:18
Roryrepudiate: Every time you Google how to do something, and it works, you learned something19:18
zykotick9repudiate: is this in Xorg (the gui) or linux-console the all text windows which are typically, F1-F6 (F7 being Xorg)19:18
repudiateRory: I've been realizing that.19:18
replicasexHey guys, thanks for running this IRC!  I have a very small question about the Adwaita theme and using it in Ubuntu.  It seems like there are weird errors sometimes where they'll be a black background for the tabs in nautilus and in open dialogues.  Any ideas what's causing this?19:18
trismGalvatron: I think I might have figured it out, for me it seems it was bug 123675219:19
ubottubug 1236752 in gnome-settings-daemon (Ubuntu) "gnome-settings-daemon (3.4.2-0ubuntu0.6.3) breaks nvidia multi-monitor-config" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/123675219:19
ikoniaGalvatron: out of interest, what was the parameter you set/how did you set it19:19
repudiatezykotick9: It's the linux console, I'm pretty sure.19:19
trismGalvatron: when I downgraded gnome-settings-daemon, xorg.conf was being used again...it must be gnome-settings-daemon overriding with xrandr19:19
zykotick9repudiate: then try "sudo dpkg-reconfigure console-setup" (i'm not sure how you can be "pretty sure")19:19
repudiatelet's assume i'm right19:20
repudiatehow would i change it19:20
MarezzHi everyone19:20
RoryHello Marezz19:20
MarezzHow can I fix MBR and grub?19:20
MarezzI messed it up and I cant boot into system19:21
Rory!grub | Marezz19:21
ubottuMarezz: GRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub219:21
repudiatezykotick9: it's asking me for my pass to install it19:21
zykotick9!fixgrub | Marezz19:21
Marezzreinstall wont help19:21
RoryMarezz: Use the first link19:21
Galvatronikonia: Option "NoLogo" "True" in the "Device" section19:21
ikoniaGalvatron: so that setting should not display a logo, did it display a logo ?19:21
psycoseI have a DELL 15R, with UEFI and secure boot enabled, all was fine. I was able to boot using the bios (InsydeH20) UEFI menu. Today the boot lines concerning the disk disappeared, and I can not boot ubuntu any more ! any tips ?19:21
zykotick9repudiate: "install it"?  really, it should ask your password to "run" it.19:21
replicasexSo -- graphical errors using Adwaita theme in Ubuntu 13.04.  Looks like this http://i.imgur.com/ZXBqHeS.png  the weird black background.  Any idea?19:22
Galvatrontrism: Thank you very much. I will definitely try it, though in my case it started after playing a Wine game through the Windows version of steam.19:22
GalvatronMy suspicion it that Wine (1.7.1. stable from the PPA) might have messed someing up.19:22
repudiate zykotick9 oh19:22
repudiatethen that's it19:22
Wugpsycose: try jiggling the cable19:22
repudiateanyway19:23
repudiatewhat text is it using19:23
repudiatethat's what i want to know19:23
GalvatronOf course, it might be only a coincidence.19:23
repudiateIt's not there under Profile Preferences.19:23
Wugpsycose: if the computer continues to fail to detect the drive, after doing things like moving it to a different SATA port, etc, the drive may be dead and need to be replaced19:23
ikoniaGalvatron: so that setting should not display a logo, did it display a logo ?19:23
GalvatronYes19:24
repudiateApparently, the font is Ubuntu Mono19:24
zykotick9repudiate: if you are seeing a Profile Preferences this is NOT console, but an Xorg terminal...  the configuration is different!19:24
repudiatezykotick9: oh19:24
ikoniaGalvatron: ok, so that's a good test, I'd get a bug logged for the detailing it19:24
lamppisHow can I link some command to shorter command?19:24
qbalazsDoes 'buntu have an equivalent to debian.org/ports? Trying to sort out a few things in the install guide, but either there isn't one, or I'm overlooking it.19:25
repudiatezykotick9: Is there any reason that I should use the Linux Console instead?19:25
zykotick9repudiate: NO19:25
psycoseWug, it's a laptop, I have been able to boot a ubuntu live using usb stick, I can see the data and the partitions on the disk. the laptop is fairly new.19:25
Wugpsycose: try reinstalling grub19:26
WugI can't remember how off the top of my head, I just google it when I need to do it, theres a million guides19:26
MarezzRory, Its not working19:27
RoryMarezz: What part?19:28
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RoryMarezz: Are you in a live environment right now?19:28
replicasexAnybody have an idea what would cause this weird nautilus/open dialogue thing in Adwaita?  http://i.imgur.com/ZXBqHeS.png19:29
replicasexStrange black background when I open more than one tab in nautilus.19:29
skinuxHow do we get binary apps downloaded as tarballs to show in search screen?19:30
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JarchyHow do you remove cloud from your panel ?19:31
Galvatrontrism: Unfortunately, it's not my case..19:34
JarchyI am the invisible man19:34
GalvatronThe demon has nothing to do with this19:34
trismGalvatron: ahh that is too bad, sorry about that, just seemed strange to both be having the same issue19:34
zidohi've installed gnome-shell in ubuntu, but if i click on any settings from the top menu ("Date & Time settings", "Bluetooth settings", "Network settings") nothing appears.. anybody got any idea what can cause this?19:35
JarchyUr computer has an std19:36
ikoniaGalvatron: test - in xorg.conf change the driver from "nvidia" to "vesa" and reboot - you will still get a desktop but the quality will be poor, see if this happens (you can always change it back)19:36
rickyb98holy cow 1791 users o.O19:36
Galvatronikonia: OK19:37
daninoz_zhi, i installed today ubuntu 13.04 on my notebook, but the wifi speed is really slow. I think the wireless card chipset is a broadcom bcm4314219:40
mnana3adan, check for any additional drivers19:40
daninoz_zmnana3a: I'm already using the additional driver.19:42
skinuxThis is probably nothing, but a few times when I've enabled WiFi on my Android phone, it seems something has gone screwy with my laptop. Anyone have info that makes it more than coincidence?19:42
Galvatronikonia: No reaction. The NV driver loaded just fine.19:42
marie__Hello !19:42
Roryskinux: could be wireless interference, try changing your channel19:43
marie__I've a webcam who's not reconnized in Ubuntu19:43
ikoniaGalvatron: so you changed the driver line in xorg.conf to be "vesa" not "nvidia" correct (note nvidia, not nv)19:43
skinuxNah, I mean screwy things like weird file permissions problems.19:43
mnana3adaninoz_z: what speed are you getting and what speed are you supposed to get?19:44
Galvatronikonia: Yes19:44
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ikoniaGalvatron: so how are you verifying what xorg module / driver it's using ?19:45
Galvatronikonia: Only "nvidia" and nouveau are capable of running Unity 3D, but in my case nouveau just doesn't work at all, for whatever reasons.19:47
ikoniaGalvatron: I apprecaite where you are coming from - look in the xorg log to see what happens during startup and see if/why it selects the nvidia module when you've told it not to19:47
daninoz_zmnana3a: at least 5Mb, I'm getting 1.2Mb19:48
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mnana3adaninoz_z: there is some solutions here http://itsfoss.com/speed-up-slow-wifi-connection-ubuntu/ you can try any of them, hope it will work out :)19:50
Galvatronikonia: That's the log: http://pastebin.com/fCYg2M2f19:50
phil_hiho, I want to add a group to my current user, tried useradd -G groupname username, but it gives error user xy already exists19:51
ikoniaGalvatron: ok, so it does parse the xorg.conf, what's in /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d ?19:51
phil_what am I doing wrong?19:51
kostkonGalvatron, nowdays you can run unity3d even without 3d acceleration using llvmpipe19:52
ikoniaphil_: that's adding a user,19:52
ikoniaphil_: usermod is what you want19:52
flam_phil_, usermod19:52
phil_ty ikonia flam_19:53
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vingin87ciao19:53
vingin87!list19:53
ubottuvingin87: No warez here! This is not a file sharing channel (or network); read the channel topic. If you're looking for information about me, type « /msg ubottu !bot ». If you're looking for a channel, see « /msg ubottu !alis ».19:53
Galvatronikonia: http://pastebin.com/WAB5RZrC19:53
ikoniaGalvatron: ok, so nothing that should conflict then19:54
Galvatronikonia: It all started after playing a Wine game from Steam fullscreen.19:56
ikoniaGalvatron: I can't see that having an impact unless it's changed the xorg packages or the nvidia packages when you installed the wine PPA19:56
GalvatronI've already wiped and reinstalled the whole X stack19:57
ikoniaI can't see that having an impact19:57
ikonia(as I don't think x is broken)19:57
Caelumkostkon: thank you19:58
GalvatronHere's the kern.log from the boot when it failed to load VESA: http://pastebin.com/SfrndHvQ19:58
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ikoniaGalvatron: the only think of interest there is the loading of the nvidia module, which is not a bad thing19:59
kostkonCaelum, ;)19:59
Galvatronikonia: But why it  doesn't load vesa?20:01
Galvatronikonia:: It might have to do with Unity/GNOME itself?20:01
ikoniaGalvatron: it's not loading vesa as it's loading nvidia because it's detecting it - why it's not overwriding it I don't know, can you please pastebin your xorg.conf ?20:02
wizard_Ai already have a .ssh folder. But i want to start afresh. How do i deal this situation?20:04
Galvatronikonia: http://pastebin.com/tWFJhu2U20:04
ikoniaGalvatron: err it says  Driver         "nvidia"20:05
ikoniaGalvatron: I asked you to change that to Vesa20:05
GalvatronI've changed it back to the original value.;)20:06
ikoniawhy /20:06
GalvatronAll right, I will retry it20:06
Rorywizard_A: mv .ssh .ssh_old20:07
ikoniaGalvatron: also where is the "nologo" option I asked you to use20:07
wizard_Aand then, rm -f .ssh?20:07
Rorywizard_A: no, mv is "move"20:08
Rorywizard_A: You can rm if it instead of moving it, but moving it is in case you want it back20:08
wizard_Ai meant after that. i already did that.20:08
Rorywizard_A: Well once you move .ssh to .ssh_old, .ssh doesn't exist any more so there's nothing to rm20:08
wizard_Aoops my bad. :)20:10
eerCan one send emails to real mail accounts with the mail -s command or only to system accounts on the same box?20:10
ibekkseer: depends on wether you configured an MTA20:11
GalvatronIkonia: Again, VESA hasn't loaded20:12
ikoniaGalvatron: that is odd / frustrating20:12
eeribekks, you mean I have to install postix or exim for example on my machine in order to be ablt to do that?20:12
ikoniaGalvatron: maybe worth getting a bug logged, detailing this clearly20:12
GalvatronThe OS doesn't care about xorg.care the least bit20:12
ibekkseer: you have to configure those after installing, too20:12
nukleuzHi. Could anybody help me out a litle bit? I'm having a issue where my server is missing a PTR record in its dns record. This server is running several domains, all routed to the same nameserver; ns1.xx and ns2.xx - should I route the PTR record to those nameservers ....?20:13
nukleuzUsing bind by the way.20:13
Galvatronikonia: The only "reaction" to the changes is some flickering of the Unity launcher20:13
ikoniaI wonder if that's the detection overriding it20:14
Roryeer: You can use your Gmail account to send email using "mail" there's a guide here http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/linux-use-gmail-as-a-smarthost.html20:14
Roryeer: It's probably easier than installing and configuring a MTA yourself, considering you needed to even ask20:15
faio!ciao20:15
faio!list20:15
ubottufaio: No warez here! This is not a file sharing channel (or network); read the channel topic. If you're looking for information about me, type « /msg ubottu !bot ». If you're looking for a channel, see « /msg ubottu !alis ».20:15
Galvatronikonia: X doesn't have some other plaec where it store's it configuration, some "super xorg.conf", or so?20:16
GalvatronA master config?20:16
nukleuzGalvatron; Are you asking me?20:17
GalvatronNo20:17
rickyb98guys i always forget: how do you remove a non-empty folder via shell?20:18
nukleuzrm -rf20:18
eerRory,  I prefer to learn how to configure one to using NSA mail accounts20:19
ikoniaGalvatron: nope20:19
rickyb98thanks :)20:20
ikoniaeer: please don't make things up about the NSA - it's tedious,20:20
giorgosHi, I am trying to use GitEye and I get a message20:20
giorgosGtk-Message: Failed to load module "canberra-gtk-module"20:20
giorgos/usr/bin/java: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libpangocairo-1.0.so.0: undefined symbol: cairo_ft_font_options_substitute20:20
giorgosGtk-Message: Failed to load module "canberra-gtk-module"20:20
giorgos/home/giorgos/temp/GitEye/GitEye: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libpangocairo-1.0.so.0: undefined symbol: cairo_ft_font_options_substitute20:20
giorgoscan you help me figure it out20:21
eerikonia, you need the link to the patriot acts?20:22
tozengiorgos: sudo apt-get install libcanberra-gtk3-module works like a charm20:23
Galvatronikonia: Thank you very much. Now I at least know that the issue is much more serious than I thought.20:23
giorgosI tried it20:23
giorgosit did not20:23
ikoniaeer: no, I don't need a link, thank you20:24
beeteeceehey guys! my ubuntu 13.04 was lagging a bit and found this solution: http://askubuntu.com/questions/290913/ubuntu-running-slow-on-my-good-machine However, after I did this all my menus and launcher disappeared. I've tried many various ways to fix this (googled it) and nothing seems to work. I still get just my wallpaper when I log in. Any suggestions?20:24
LiENUSso I don't NEED a swap file but I want one just in case but i'd rather it be on my sdcard instead of the internal ssd, is there a way to get ubuntu to play friendly with removable swap? i added nofail to my fstab entry so if i boot up without it it should be fine but that doesnt help if it gets pulled and reinserted while its running (which with my swapiness set to 1 is generally safe)20:25
LiENUSand since my sd card isnt flush with the side of the laptop, possible20:25
tozenbeeteecee: unity?20:25
WugLiENUS: sounds like a great way to lose all of your work20:26
beeteeceetozen, tried everything with unity, enabled it. still no luck20:26
Wughow much ram do you have20:26
LiENUSWug, 2gb20:26
Rorybeeteecee: Can you switch to a different terminal with Ctrl+Alt+F1 and run the command: "sudo chown username: .Xauthority" - replacing username with your actual username20:26
Wugyou're probably ok without swap20:26
tozenbeeteecee: u r on unity?20:26
LiENUSWug, yeah probably, but if i want to hibernate i need swap20:26
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LiENUSalso if im doing a lot of heavy work on my machine i might need swap (unlikely but possible)20:27
beeteeceetozen, mm.. I installed ubuntu 13.04 and didn't install any other stuff. so I guess I am20:27
beeteeceeRory, trying now20:27
LiENUSi suspect nofail and UUID instead of device paths is the best i'm going to get for ubuntu playing nice with 'removable swap'20:27
LiENUSi just wanted to make sure there isnt something more20:27
tozenbeeteecee: try unity --replace20:27
tozenbeeteecee:  or dconf reset -f /org/compiz20:28
LiENUSi found when browsing imgur i kept having firefox just close and im curious if it isnt hitting a ram limit so i wanted to do that a bit and see if its getting killed from lack of swap heh20:29
RoryLiENUS: If you run Firefox from the terminal, do you see an error when it crashes?20:29
LiENUSRory, havent tried20:29
beeteeceetozen, unity-panel-service: no process found20:29
calimero_82hello20:29
RoryLiENUS: That's what I mean, try it now20:29
beeteeceeRory, chown invalid spec: username:20:30
SpecD:20:30
LiENUSRory, now to browse imgur for about an hour heh20:30
tozenbeeteecee: sudo apt-get install --reinstall unity-services ??20:31
beeteeceetozen, I think I've tried it. Trying again...20:31
LiENUSthe best part is... this is going to end up a work machine i repaired and will eventually return to work when they replace my broken laptop so technically im getting paid to browse imgur "stress testing"20:31
Rorybeeteecee: Please read my message!20:31
tozensudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop ??20:31
Rorybeeteecee: Can you switch to a different terminal with Ctrl+Alt+F1 and run the command: "sudo chown username: .Xauthority" - replacing username with your actual username20:32
beeteeceeRory, sorry, doing that20:32
calimero_82i've ubu 12.04, in the unity-bar there's a icon (http), what's its  route? thanks20:32
LiENUS2008 era laptop had a hd failure so i popped in a ssd and upgraded ram to 2gb heh20:32
beeteeceeRory, done20:32
ryanwHi! How can I enable HiDPI in Ubuntu? Is it supported?20:33
beeteeceetozen, re-installed as well20:33
MrKBif I have an Ubuntu install on an HDD and I move that HDD from one computer to the other, will Ubuntu detect the change in CPU and RAM amount?20:33
h00k!620:34
MrKBWill it report it under system details?20:34
tozenbeeteecee: unity --reset-icons ??20:34
Rorybeeteecee: Now switch back with Ctrl+Alt+F720:34
beeteeceeRory, there. looks the same20:34
Tyrantelf_Hey20:35
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beeteeceetozen, a lot of "compiz (decor) - a pixmap type decoration when compositing isn't available20:35
eerWhen using the atq command, is there a way to find out what a job is actually? all I get is the job ID:20:36
TyrantelfAnyone have any ideas on how to make a single folder sync the files in it to multiple other locations, while leaving other files in the target directories untouched20:37
Akuwhow can i open dbf files on gnu/linux?20:37
beeteeceeRory, any other steps or didn't your method work as well?20:37
TJ-Tyrantelf: rsync20:40
Tyrantelfany cross-server suggestions?20:40
wylde!rsync | Tyrantelf20:40
ubottuTyrantelf: rsync is a fast remote file copy and synchronization program - For more see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/rsync20:40
Tyrantelfawesome, thank you20:41
Tyrantelfawesome, should of thought of rsync... I've used to before20:41
TyrantelfJust had a memory lapse20:41
giorgosDo you know why I would get this error20:42
giorgossymbol lookup error: /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libpangocairo-1.0.so.0: undefined symbol: cairo_ft_font_options_substitute20:42
giorgosfrom a third party app?20:42
beeteeceetozen, maybe this will help. when i do dconf reset -f /org/compiz/ I get the following error: erro spawning command line.... Child process exited with code 120:42
wiakcan i use >> and update a file on a ftp/sftp server?20:43
BooeyOHShould I be able to view another persons data using "sudo" if their home directory is encrypted?20:43
giorgosI am on 12.0420:43
bekksBooeyOH: No.20:43
wiaknope20:43
wiaktheir home is encrypted by their password20:43
xtrizkvm web based management that ubuntu supports ?20:43
wiakso even root cant see the data20:43
wiakxtriz vnc?20:44
bekkswiak: It is encrypted by a passphrase and the passphrase is encrypted with their password.20:44
BooeyOHbekks: so if I put test.txt in an encrypted home directory of user, and I, as another user do "sudo cat /home/otheruser/data.txt" and I see the contents of that file, does that mean it did not encrypt correctly?20:44
wiakor do you mean kvm the vizulation?20:44
xtrizwiak, no not through vnc20:44
xtrizsome thing ilke webvirtmanager20:44
xtrizwhich ubuntu supports out of the box20:45
bekksBooeyOH: No. It did not even decrypt. :)20:45
bekksBooeyOH: Encryption is working correctly, you just never4 decrypt with sudo.20:45
wiakBooeyOH well the file has to be created by the user of the *encrypted* home20:45
wiakto be encrypted20:45
BooeyOHwhat if it is scp'd into the directory by the user20:45
wiakas far as i have understod20:45
BooeyOH(which is what I did)20:46
bekkswiak: Wrong. The file has to be created after the home is decrypted. No matter from whom.20:46
bekksBooeyOH: scp does not call a login shell. The home was left encrypted.20:46
wiakBooeyOH ask bekks, good luck20:46
wiak:P20:46
wiakxtriz there is a web gui for kvmm let me do some google fu20:47
xtrizwiak, i found out some, but wanted to know which one supports out of the box on ubuntu20:47
bekkswiak: either you use a webbrowser for googling, or for accessing a kvm interface like proxmox.20:47
BooeyOHbekks: ok, does this sound right?  I scp'd file into using enctest user.  I COULD see it with 'sudo cat [file]' while the enctest user was logged in, but as soon as the enctest user was logged out, I could not see it20:47
bekksBooeyOH: That sounds correct, yes.20:47
BooeyOHsweet, thank you sir!20:48
bekksBooeyOH: you're welcome :)20:48
nukleuzCan I create valid PTR records in BIND? Or do I have to contact my DataCenter, so they can create them?20:48
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TJ-nukleuz: Only if you control the zone20:49
xtrizwiak, did you got anything ?20:49
TJ-nukleuz: Otherwise, its down to the controller of the sub-net20:49
wiaksorry no clue xtriz20:51
wiakhttp://www.cnblogs.com/panblack/archive/2013/03/04/webvirtmgr-a-kvm-web-management-tool.html20:51
wiakseems to be nice20:51
wiakbut not sure it has vnc20:51
wiakmost dont, i belive20:51
wiakso you have to set it up your self to work with vnc20:52
wiakhttps://www.webvirtmgr.net/ <- did you try that?20:52
BooeyOHbekks: what sort of encryption does the "built in" home dir encryption use for ubuntu?20:52
wiakBooeyOH google knows20:53
xtrizwiak, yeah i had mentioned that above20:53
Dr_WillisI bet its Rot-13 ;)20:53
xtrizwiak, this is the only solution supported well on ubuntu20:53
wiakubuntu has many vnc servers soo ;)20:53
wiakxtriz good luck, i just use #digitalocean20:53
wiak:)20:53
xtrizwiak, what's that ?20:54
wiakxtriz VPS hosting, hehe, but they are a useful bunch :P20:56
wiakmight be a better place to ask20:56
xtrizwiak, ok :) thanks :)20:56
Dr_Williswas using digital ocean for a while also. they are like $5 a month.  Worked well for my minimal needs.20:56
wiakthey use KVM so20:56
wiakDr_Willis: still using them, i love that i got free months*20:57
wiak:P20:57
wiakanyhow20:57
Dr_WillisI got like a month or 2 free ;) then kept them for another 3. but then i just iddent really need the service.20:57
wiakthanks for liniking to webvirtmgr :)20:57
wiakxtriz, it was something i need for my home server :p20:58
xtrizwiak, and Dr_Willis you guys use it to store data ? right ?20:59
xtrizor it's a VPS ?20:59
giorgos_sdad21:00
Dr_WillisI just used to run my ZNC server, and a bit of storage.21:00
wiakxtriz webste..21:00
wiak:P21:00
wiakhttp://nwgat.net21:01
wiak:)21:01
wiakFFF :P21:01
wiakoh more like JFF :P21:01
xtrizwiak, cool :)21:01
wiakaka Just For Fun21:01
PingCELAhey ubuntu21:04
methodizeHello, when i run lubuntu via livecd the radeon drivers are used and i get full resolution but vesa drivers are used after install because i use 'nomodeset' as a workaround to the black screen on boot issue. i have an ati hd 4650.21:04
PingCELAso mir is held back ...21:04
gexarcha1.21:04
PingCELAdoes that mean I can still tunnel my X server through ssh still?21:04
pricey_st21:04
Vialashello everyone, how are you all?21:06
Vialasim having issues with "make"21:06
Vialascould anyone spare some time for me21:06
Vialas:$21:06
kd5tkc\o21:07
Vialashi kd5tkc21:07
SonderbladeVialas: write what your problem is and maybe someone can help you21:08
VialasI am getting a weird error when trying to install "Cloud9 IDE"21:08
Vialaserror is as follows after trying to "make"21:08
VialasBuild failed:  -> task failed (err #2):         {task: libv8.a SConstruct -> libv8.a}21:08
kd5tkcjust a question, if i compile a program around my kernal and i update to a new kernal, that program will not work correct?21:09
kd5tkci would have to rebuild the module21:09
TJ-Vialas: You'd need to ask the Cloud9 support, that's a Javascript (engine) issue21:09
MazinHello every body21:09
vaurdanHey guys21:10
SonderbladeVialas: try running the command again with -v21:10
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MazinI have a problem and i need help21:10
TJ-kd5tkc: Usually, yes.21:10
kd5tkcthought so thanks21:10
Vialasoh ok TJ-21:10
vaurdanI've a quad core i7 but my core 0 is having 75% load, while all other cores have 3-5% load... shouldn't be this symetric?21:10
Vialasoh what does that do Sonderblade ?21:10
Vialasverbose?21:10
Sonderbladeyes21:10
TJ-vaurdan: Depends on the processes being run. A single-threaded process will 'hog' a single core21:11
Vialasroger21:11
VialasSonderblade thanks, ill do that and report back to you21:11
VialasSonderblade i never have any luck with the make command21:11
Mazini have dell T420 and i wanna install ubuntu server on it but it failed to complete the installation21:11
vaurdanTJ-, sure, but shouldn't the SO use different cores for different processes?21:11
vaurdaninstead of only using the first core?21:11
vaurdan*OS21:11
TJ-vaurdan: No. It's more power-efficient to run 1 core and let the others sleep21:12
vaurdanhmmmm that's a nice point of view21:12
Gatohi all, is recommended to add x-swat ppa in ubuntu 13.04??21:12
TJ-vaurdan: There's various reasons including, but not limited to, the choice of CPU governor21:12
vaurdanhow can I set another governor?21:13
MazinTJ i need help please21:13
vaurdanI would like to do some tests :)21:13
vaurdanI've my core 0 much hotter than other ones21:13
TJ-vaurdan: Use your search-foo to find info on CPU governors, here's one to get you started: http://askubuntu.com/questions/20271/how-do-i-set-the-cpu-frequency-scaling-governor-for-all-cores-at-once21:14
eqwlis it possible to scroll in terminal?21:14
TJ-!ask | Mazin21:14
ubottuMazin: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience21:14
eqwliam using irssi client21:15
Dr_Williseqwl:  if you mean does the IRSSI client have scrolling.. try pageup/pagedown, or shift pageup/down21:15
k1leqwl: pageup doesnt work?21:15
Dr_WillisI perfer weechat to irssi these days ;)21:15
eqwlDr_Willis k1l: Thanks :)21:16
eqwlit worked21:16
k1lwell, irssi in screen is a classic :)21:16
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Vialasps make takes a long time :P21:16
vaurdan_sorry TJ- , xChat crashed... What did you said?21:16
TJ-vaurdan: Use your search-foo to find info on CPU governors, here's one to get you started: http://askubuntu.com/questions/20271/how-do-i-set-the-cpu-frequency-scaling-governor-for-all-cores-at-once21:17
Dr_Willisk1l:  its also fairly well documented. :)21:17
TJ-Vialas: Wait until you're building a BIG project... then you'll want distcc and a bunch of networked builders21:17
Dr_Willishmm.. i wonder if i set up distcc on my pcs. and my raspberry-pi if it will be able to cross compile for the pi properly21:18
Dr_Willisoh wait. the disrto on the pcs will be ubuntu, not rasbian.. that may be an issue21:18
delinquentmeeasiest way to get the IP for a given uRL?21:18
UsernamHello, I need some help setting up an ubuntu desktop, the only trick is that I need my entire /home directory intact and it needs to start at night and be fully functional by the next morning21:18
Dr_Willisdelinquentme:  ping www.theurl.com21:19
eqwlI cant find my first message I wrote. why?21:19
Dr_WillisUsernam:  clarify that a bit more please.. you just need the pc to auto power on at night time?21:19
eqwlhi anybody ali21:19
eqwlcould anybody find this?21:19
Dr_Williseqwl:  find what? the history buffer is of a set size.21:20
TJ-Dr_Willis: Yes, you can use distcc for cross-compiling. I do.21:20
Dr_WillisTJ-:  yea. but with differnt disrtos - that may  be an issue?21:20
Dr_Willistook my pi like 5 hrs to compile Weechat the other day. ;)21:21
Usernamno, I need to install ubuntu (replacing my current linux distro) and it needs to be completely finished in the span of night.  with my whole /home directory intact21:21
Vivekanandahey everyone I have an nvidia G86M processor and I am trying to see if it can play some games or not. especially RE5 ( even at low specs). RE5 says it needs a min Geforce 6800Gt. how do I compare both these gpus?21:21
Dr_WillisUsernam:  #1 tip  - BACKUP your home just in case.21:21
eqwlDr_Willis: that message I paste21:21
eqwlhi anybody ali21:21
VivekanandaAlso I guess this is not the right place so please direct me to a good channel for this21:21
eqwlI paste this first. I cant find it21:21
eqwlwierd21:21
Dr_WillisUsernam:  whats your current disrto?21:21
UsernamDr_Willis: That the plan21:21
Usernammy current distro is fedora 1821:22
Dr_WillisUsernam:  a MAJOR issue will be that fedora by default i belive uses lvm.  so you might have to backup your home to a nonlvm partion, or some other location and do a total repartion.21:22
Dr_WillisUsernam:  some guys last week had issues 'un-lvming' their old redhat/fedors installs..  seems theres a 'lvmscan' and 'lvmremove' command that needs to be used to unlvm the partions so gparted can repartion them21:23
Dr_WillisUnless you want to use lvm in ubuntu.21:23
UsernamWhat if I backed it up remotely? I have an old crappy laptop that already has ubuntu on it.  Would that work if I saved everything into tar archive and stashed it on there?21:25
TJ-Dr_Willis: It's usually "lvchange -an VG/LV" to inactivate the LV, and also if wanting to release the VG, "lvgchange -an VG"21:26
eerWhen I enter USB sticks they are not recognized anymore. Is there a way to restart the USB system without restarting the computer?21:26
eqwlwhat do you mean by "the history buffer is of a set size."?21:26
Dr_WillisTJ-:  all i know about lvm was what i found for some guy last week. ;) on askubuntu.com   he had aparently been fighting it for several days ;P21:27
Dr_Williseqwl:  its not unlimited.21:27
Dr_Williseqwl:  most likely its a few hunderd lines.21:28
Dr_Williseqwl:  and the channel history buffer is differnt than your command history. (on the up arrow key)21:28
eqwlDr_Willis: okay then I should find it. it was maybe 5 min ago21:29
eqwlhow do I start weechat after installing it?21:30
Dr_Willis'weechat' is the command21:30
TJ-Dr_Willis: I've come to love LVM, makes working with volumes a breeze21:30
giorgosI managed to remove this message  "Gtk-Message: Failed to load module "canberra-gtk-module" " by removing the libcanberra-gtk-module and libcanberra-gtk3-module21:30
Dr_Willisif using weechat - you DEFINATLY want to read the weechat docs.21:30
eqwlcoudnt find the command thats why I asking21:30
zykotick9eqwl: try UpArrow to scroll though what you've previously typed21:30
sam113101eqwl: type weechat-curses in your terminal21:30
Dr_WillisTJ-:  i skimmed some info about ZFS the other day.. seems if it could be used - it sort of makes lvm a bit redundant. :) but i dont use either one.21:30
Dr_Williseqwl:  tab completion :)  i always do 'wee<tab>'21:31
giorgoshowever, this "symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libpangocairo-1.0.so.0: undefined symbol: cairo_ft_font_options_substitute",  keeps coming up and crashing GitEye21:31
Dr_Willisthere is a qt weechat front end out it seems. but ive never used it.21:31
sam113101curses it the best front-end21:32
eqwlnice client. almost like irssi but there is "users list" in weechat21:32
eqwlI like it21:32
daninoz_hi guys, i just installed ubuntu and after that the drivers for my wireless card bcm43142 from the first answer from here: http://askubuntu.com/questions/289609/dell-3721-wifi-problem-ubuntu-13-04 , but when I'm not close to the router, the speed is really slow, what can i do?21:32
Dr_Williseqwl:  weechat has 10x the features of irssi21:32
sam113101weechat also has sane defaults21:32
eqwlzykotick9: I did and I still cant find it :/21:33
Dr_Williseqwl:   i turn off the user list. ;) its sort of useless  in a channel with 1758 people21:33
eqwlDr_Willis: Probably21:33
eqwl:)21:33
Dr_Willisi also got my weechat set where all the mode changes go to a differnt window. so i dont see all the ban floods and stuff.21:34
Dr_Williseven the 'names' printing to channel i got filtered out.21:34
eqwlDr_Willis: what irc client is most used with linux?21:34
Dr_Williseqwl:  definatly check out the weechat docs. an the 'smart filters' section21:34
Dr_Williseqwl:  had to tell. xchat and irssi are the 2 common ones.21:34
Dr_Willishard to tell. ;)21:34
themill!ops on-join spam from Solo_in_Casa21:35
ubottuthemill: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)21:35
Dr_Willisi  actually irc more from android (using andchat) then i do any of them21:35
* themill glares at ubotto21:35
Dr_Willisthemill:  :) might want to mention it in #ubuntu-ops21:35
eqwlDr_Willis: okay :) I never know that you could write "wee"+TAB thanks for the advice21:36
eqwlsorry for my english btw21:36
eerWhy does my USB stick show in the mountable Truecrypt devices but not under df -h ?21:36
Dr_Williseqwl:  thats a bash thing. ;) tab completion works in most areas onthe shell  AND in weechat21:36
Dr_Willis!tab21:36
ubottuYou can use your <tab> key for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line.21:36
Dr_Williseqwl:  also check out the /script  (or was it /scripts) command in weechat. the latest vweechat has a script manager built in. I like the color-nick matches the text script21:37
Dr_Williseqwl:  and the iset script for setting  differnt settings21:37
TJ-Dr_Willis: LVM isn't a file system, its a very flexible volume container (think flexible partitions) that can be RAIDed, striped, snapshot-ed, and needs formatting with a file-system.  The best part of it for me is being able to resize an LV easily "lvresize -L +5G VG/LVname" then, say its ext4 file-system, "resize2fs /dev/mapper/VG-LVname" will do an online resize.21:37
eqwlDr_Willis: okay. is it only ubuntu that support command like "wee+TAB"?21:38
Dr_WillisTJ-:  dosent mean much to me. :) i stick to simple setups.  in the last week thees been like 5 people in here (or the same guy with differnt nicks) trying to remove a redhat/fedora system21:38
Dr_Williseqwl:  its a BASH feature21:38
zykotick9eer: df only shows what IS already mounted.21:38
Dr_Williseqwl:  check out 'bash completion'  guides and docs online. for how it works21:38
eerzykotick9, thx21:38
Dr_Willisubuntu has one of the most complete bash-completion setups ive seen21:39
ArmadillosAll my systems are running LVM21:40
eqwlDr_Willis: okay21:41
icerootDr_Willis: and the default zsh completion is still much much better .)21:41
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Dr_WillisFish is better. ;) its 'friendly' says so in the description21:42
Dr_Willis!info fish21:42
ubottufish (source: fish): friendly interactive shell. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.23.1+20120106.git8b407a3-1 (raring), package size 729 kB, installed size 2423 kB21:42
Dr_Willisactually ive shown fish to some total linux beginners and they did like fish beter then bash. but i told them to learn both.21:43
icerootDr_Willis: sounds funny, i will have a look21:43
Dr_Willisit had a lot more interactive help i recall.21:44
icerootDr_Willis: like zsh i guess21:44
Dr_Willis!info qtrazor21:44
ubottuPackage qtrazor does not exist in raring21:44
Dr_WillisHmm. qtrazor seems to be in the  13.10 release.  thats new. :)21:45
icerootDr_Willis: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/02/Zsh_screenshot.png   zsh interaction by just pressing tab21:45
icerootDr_Willis: and of course you can navigate through that with the arrow-keys21:45
eqwlDr_Willis: how do I scroll the "users list" in weechat?21:46
Dr_Williseqwl:  no idea. as i said. i turn it off. theres a toggle userslist script i use21:47
eqwlDr_Willis: may I ask, what do you mean by "toggle"?21:48
TylertwoI want to create a keyboard shortcut on LXDE to "restore" a window. "Maximize" works to maximize a window, and "Iconify" works to minimize a window, but I don't know what key word is needed to restore (ie shrink to ~half size or whatever). Any ideas?21:48
Dr_Williseqwl:  a light switch toggles the lights on or off.....21:48
Dr_WillisTylertwo:  normally  you unmazamize the window and it goes back to where it was at befor I think21:49
westonHello21:49
westonum21:49
marcusmagnushello21:49
Dr_Willisthats how the Max button works here at least. :) no idea what commands do that - could be maxamize toggles btween the 2 states21:49
eqwlDr_Willis: do you mean like a separate window?21:50
Dr_Williseqwl:  what?21:50
TylertwoDr_Willis: "Unmaximize" worked! ty21:50
Dr_WillisTylertwo:  ;)21:50
eqwlDr_Willis: I meant toggle script21:50
Dr_Williseqwl:  its a script.. it shows or hides the nick list21:50
eqwlif you had a separate window for the nick list21:51
eqwlDr_Willis: aha okay21:51
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eqwlbye21:52
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jboiiis it possible to theme ryhthm box??21:59
crash_HI. i'm trying to install a program via Software Centre but it's calling this problem : "Package dependencies cannot be resolved". ect. Any help?21:59
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jribcrash_: use apt-get, pastebin full input and output22:00
Dr_Williscrash_:  id suggest trying it from the shell so you get better error messages22:00
Dr_Williscrash_:  start with a 'sudo apt-get update' 'sudo apt-get upgrade'  then try instal;ing the package22:00
giorgosabout GitEye: It seems that if I double click the file from a  Nautilus Window it works just fine. If I execute it from the command line it crashes. Do you know how nautilus executes files. BTW, My problem is solved now but I am still curious as to what caused it22:02
crash_done. It's giving me this now. http://pastebin.com/a1wDUdLR22:05
Dr_Williswhat disrto are you using exactly crash?22:08
crash_ubuntu22:09
crash_unity22:09
Dr_Willisand which version?22:09
Dr_Willisbecause those error messages seem a little odd. unless youve been messing with your repos.22:09
crash_13.0422:10
Dr_Willis!info libc622:10
ubottulibc6 (source: eglibc): Embedded GNU C Library: Shared libraries. In component main, is required. Version 2.17-0ubuntu5 (raring), package size 3951 kB, installed size 9216 kB22:10
Dr_Willisthis a clean install or some upgrade?  you have any kde ppa's enabled?22:10
crash_clean install22:11
Dr_Willisyou are trying to install k3b? thats the whole end goal?22:11
Dr_Willisdone a 'sudo apt-get update' 'sudo apt-get dist-upgrade'  recently?22:11
crash_i cant say i know i have22:12
Dr_WillisHuh? id rerun the update/dist-upgrade again to be sure you have done it.22:12
Dr_Willisthen try reinstalling k3b again22:12
thunder_"hello world"22:13
deckard_hello, is there a command to fix software center?22:13
Dr_Willisdeckard_:  depends on whats broken i imagine.. thers no 'sudo fix-software-center' command that i know of.22:13
txdvhello, i dd'ed the ubuntu 12.04.3 i386 iso on a flash drive and booted from it, but it asks for a username and ubuntu:empty ubuntu:ubuntu doesn't work22:13
thunder_okay so i have a problem22:13
deckard_well, i can download some things but others i cant22:13
Dr_Willistxdv:  this is a server or desktop iso? You DID verify the md5sum befor you dd'd it? onlyh time ive sene it ask - was when the iso file was bad.22:14
thunder_so i am running ubuntu studio-32 bit22:14
deckard_wow,it work today,nevermind22:14
Dr_Willisdeckard_:  try it from the command line, look for some meaningfull error messages we can read/help with22:14
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* Dr_Willis bets a update/upgrade fixed it..22:14
Dr_Willis;P22:14
thunder_and when i run pulse audio server  i cannot use flash audio and skype at the same time22:14
thunder_any suggestions?22:15
txdvc4f4c7a0d03945b78e23d3aa4ce127dc  ubuntu-12.04.3-desktop-i386.iso22:15
Dr_Willis!skype22:15
ubottuTo install Skype on Ubuntu, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype - To record on Skype, check: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeRecordingHowto - Please use open protocols instead if you can, see !Ekiga22:15
Dr_Willis!md522:16
ubottuTo verify your Ubuntu ISO image (or other files for which an MD5 checksum is provided), see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows22:16
Jordan_Uthunder_: What release of Ubuntu are you using?22:16
thunder_well i am using 4.2 i think22:16
thunder_i am not sure22:16
thunder_but i tried the deb wor 12.0422:16
thunder_and it woulnt work at  all22:17
Jordan_Uthunder_: There is no Ubuntu 4.2. "lsb_release -a" will give you information on what release you're using.22:17
thunder_i also reinstall lib sound22:17
txdvDr_Willis: it is the flash drives22:17
thunder_but that didnt fix it22:17
thunder_yes22:17
thunder_well22:17
thunder_flash player22:17
txdvDr_Willis: i am so full of hate towards them right now, because they are basically ruining my ubuntu install22:17
thunder_not drive anything flash based22:17
Dr_Willistxdv:  cant say ive had many issues with flash drives lately.. a year or 4 ago i had some that were flakey but these days.. most $5  4 gb usb drives work great.;)22:18
thunder_i was looking for some tutorials on how to configure jack with browser but i didn't come up with any good results22:18
Dr_Willistxdv:  there are tools at the pendrivelinux site that can setup grub2 on a usb and use it to boot iso files.22:18
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thunder_dosn't grub 2 come automaticly with all linux installs22:19
crash_Dr_Willis managed to get another program to install, just to test. No hope with K3b though22:20
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txdvDr_Willis: i'm right now on windows, is there a tool for windows?22:20
txdvi mean im on ubuntu22:20
thunder_dish utility?22:20
thunder_disk22:20
thunder_or22:20
thunder_startup disk creater22:21
txdvstartup disk creator is usb-creator-gtk and is bad22:21
thunder_their is also another22:21
txdvunetbootin doesnt work either22:22
txdvdd doesnt work either22:22
thunder_something like usb image writer or something along those lines22:22
raven__How do I make the unity menu display all of my installed apps and not just recent ones?22:22
Dr_Willistxdv:  check the pendrivelinux site and see what all they got - theres dozens of tools there22:23
txdvonly for windows22:23
thunder_as for my question i think i might switch to the 64bit22:23
Jordan_Utxdv: When you get a login screen is it text based or is it a GUI? What happens when you enter a username of "ubuntu" and no password?22:23
superjoehi - I am trying to decrypt a gpg message and gpg seems to be hanging. it prompted me with gui to enter my key before but now it seems to be cached. how can I make it prompt me again?22:23
txdvJordan_U: nothing, asks for the username and password again22:24
Jordan_Utxdv: I asked two questions, you only answered one.22:25
thunder_i did?22:25
txdvit is a GUI, it does nothing22:25
thunder_what was the other question?22:25
txdvwhen I switch to console (shift+alt+f2) then it just says "AUthetnication failed" and doesn't let me even login22:26
thunder_okay txdv22:26
thunder_are you using the correct credentials?22:26
Jordan_Utxdv: If it doesn't complain about the username or password being wrong then most likely what's happening is that the desktop session is failing to load. That is usually caused by graphics driver issues or a bad image, neither of which will change by using different tools to load the image onto a USB drive.22:26
thunder_i had that problem22:27
thunder_i had to kill xsession22:27
txdvJordan_U: it does say that the password is invalid22:28
txdvtried ubuntu: and ubuntu:ubuntu22:28
thunder_is that the username you created?22:28
OerHeksname  ubuntu password empty22:28
Jordan_Utxdv: Are you sure that you're actually booting from the LiveUSB and not some other hard drive?22:29
thunder_^^22:29
txdvi am sure22:29
txdvthere is only windows installed on the harddrive22:30
thunder_it might just be a bad write22:30
thunder_try rewriting the usb22:30
sintrixxgnome3 breaks my box.22:30
Jordan_Utxdv: Did you do an md5sum check of the image?22:31
txdvyes22:31
skinofstarshi guys. i'm having terrible trouble with a fresh install. does anyone know how to boot to command line just once from grub2?22:31
somekinghi, i'm having issues with my wifi connection. when i'm not close to the router the speed is really slow.22:31
Jordan_Uskinofstars: Select "recovery mode" from the "Advanced Options" submenu.22:31
txdvserious fustrating22:32
skinofstarsJordan_U: ahh, and drop to root shell prompt. brilliant.22:33
txdvi hate flash drives from now on22:33
somekingi have less than 1Mb and I should have at least 5mb. My notebook is a dell and the chipset of the wifi card is a broadcom bcm4314222:33
wheatthinsomeking, some times it really depends on how crowded your frequency is22:34
wheatthinlots of wireless activities no the 2.4 - 5GHz range22:34
wheatthinon*22:34
somekingwheatthin: but it works well in the desktop pc and the cellphone.22:35
wheatthinsomeking, could just be the wireless card itself. What's it rated?22:36
somekingwheatthin: where i can check that?22:37
mydog2afternoon...22:37
zohangood morning22:38
zohansome body can help me ??22:39
wheatthin!help | zohan22:39
ubottuzohan: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience22:39
edranHello everybody. I need some help with a nasty laptop. I'm trying to install Ubuntu on a Gateway NV52L15u and I can't disable secureboot in the UEFI, because apparently it's locked. I've looked on the internet but I haven't found a way to disable it (I've already got a USB ready with 13.04). Does anybody know how to get rid of the bloody thing?22:40
wheatthinsomeking, lspci -v should tell you I believe22:40
zohanhow about install nvidia geforce driver on ubuntu 12.04, my laptop is asus a43sd thx ????22:41
wheatthinzohan, simple..    sudo apt-get install nvidia-current22:41
somekingwheatthin: it's bgn22:41
zohanexusme it's nvidia geforce 610m22:41
zohanthen ...22:41
zohanhow about test its22:41
wheatthinzohan, it's best to do the install and read. Perhaps the installer will give you a clue.22:42
zohani already install the nvidia current, then what can I do for use my nvidia ?22:43
zohanplease help me?22:43
Snake2kHey guys, I need help with installing ubuntu 12.04, I'm installing via USB, I selected the 'Alongside windows thing' then it started copying files and asked me for stuff like username etc, after that was done and it was still copying, ubuntu had a kernel panic, now I get a black screen after continuing from the page before the ubuntu installation type selection.22:43
wheatthin!nvidia | zohan22:44
ubottuzohan: For Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VideoDriverHowto22:44
jfmarioi have a rather noob question, is there not a way to bookmark conference rooms such as this in pidgin on ubuntu?22:44
Roryjfmario: Buddies -> Add Chat22:44
zohan!nvidia22:44
Roryjfmario: FYI it's called a "channel"22:44
jfmariowell that was simple. I was looking to bookmark it from right-click22:45
jfmariothanks22:45
cariveriHi. why does upping the network interface assigns the original ip instead of the one I intended?22:45
RorySnake2k: Sounds like either the .iso file was corrupted, or it got corrupted while copying to the USB stick22:45
Rory!md5 | Snake2k22:45
ubottuSnake2k: To verify your Ubuntu ISO image (or other files for which an MD5 checksum is provided), see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows22:45
codephobichello22:45
Snake2kRory: thanks I'll verify it :-)22:45
codephobicI think I've found a couple of strange "quirks" with gedit.22:46
RorySnake2k: Then when you go to do the installation again, choose Custom partitioning. You will see two partitions, one ext4 and one swap. Use these for your "/" and "swap" partitions respectively22:47
codephobicwhen I launch the "open file" window, deep into a file structure, I find the folder chain thing keeps jumping about22:47
codephobicit makes it impossible to save or open a document, as a result.22:47
codephobicanyone experienced this?22:48
jmknsdmy desktop just locked up, how do I find out what caused it?22:48
Snake2kRory: they should be there because ubuntu attempted the install?22:48
RorySnake2k: That's right yes, the first thing it does is partitiniong22:48
Snake2kRory: thanks!22:49
jmknsdcompiz crashed earlier when I restarted the networking, then it wouldn't sleep. Not sure what has caused this recent instability.22:50
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jmknsdaah, in /var/log/kern.log I see "[drm:i915_hangcheck_hung] *ERROR* Hangcheck timer elapsed... GPU hung22:52
jmknsdany ideas what caused my GPU to hang?22:53
kostkonbug 94689922:54
ubottubug 946899 in linux (Ubuntu) "[drm:i915_hangcheck_elapsed] *ERROR* Hangcheck timer elapsed... GPU hung" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/94689922:54
raven_Okay so I've just realized youtube videos and any sort of sound out of chrome and google music don't work, but only when I'm in a skype call?22:58
krabadorhi people, how was the reinstall for apt-get?22:58
krabadori need to reinstall a package, what was the apt-get comand?22:58
kostkonkrabador, apt-get reinstall or apt-get --reinstall?22:58
krabadorkostkon,22:58
kostkonkrabador, eeer apt-get install --reinstall22:59
krabadorit's the correct syntax?22:59
kostkonkrabador, apt-get install pacakge_name --reinstall22:59
krabadorkostkon, thanx22:59
kostkonkrabador, give a sudo apt-get autoclean or sudo apt-get clean before giving sudo apt-get install to make sure that it will download the file again and not use the cached one, if there is one23:00
chowderinstalled Ubuntu with LVM and luks. Trying to install Xen so I can run Windows 7 in a vm (wine isn't doing the trick this time). I'm on a liveUSB right now. I'm wanting to decrypt the disk and then resize Ubuntu's logical volume because its taking up the whole disk. After this I want to create another volume to install Windows under. Does this make any sense?23:00
raven_Okay so I've just realized youtube videos and any sort of sound out of chrome and google music don't work, but only when I'm in a skype call?23:02
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popeye22hi i am looking for a software that would help me save images and from a forum like open thumnail and save images would somebody know something that would help me ?23:03
chowderraven_: what version of Ubuntu are you running?23:03
raven_chowder 12.0423:03
kostkonraven_, is it ubuntu?23:03
raven_kostkon ye23:03
raven_s23:03
Diamondciteraven_: is skype and chrome going through pulse audio? Or using direct access via Alsa?23:03
raven_diamondcite how do I find that out23:04
chowderpopeye22: are you looking for a graphical program to do that? Normally when I want to save something from any webpage I just right click and download it.23:04
Diamondciteraven_: Supposedly, if you open up sound properties, it should show which app is trying to use sound right now. if you hear sound, but don't see the app there, then it's avoiding pulse audio.23:04
acidrainjrhey im having problems with my software updater23:05
chowderS.O.S. anyone ever worked with Xen? I'm running 13.10 final beta. luks over LVM. looking for some help decrypting LVM partition and then resizing volumes. Currently on a live USB of 13.04. Can anyone help?23:06
raven_diamondcite using pavucontrol (which I installed myself) I look at playback tab and I see three instances of chromium but no skype23:07
jmgkhi all23:07
jmgkfor Xchat do you have it on Tree view ?23:07
popeye22chowder i am looking for a program that would open and save every images from forum pages because opening right click and save image would take like forever23:08
raven_also here's another thing. When I try to play music through pithos while on a skype call it stays at 0:00 and doesn't move23:09
popeye22chowder like an images vacuum23:09
chowderpopeye22: look up a firefox extension called DownThemAll23:12
chowderpopeye22: lets you download everything off a website. You can use filters to only download images or music or w/e you like.23:12
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popeye22thank i will give it a try23:13
boooossssHey, I'm wanting to dual boot along side win8. Is it best to manually create a partition using windows or should i just install using the side by side method on the cd?23:13
SteveH_I clobbered myself by not thinking thru a rm -r /var/lib/* command.  I reinstalled 12.04, and have slowly built back up.  However, my Unity sidebar has a problem whereby some of the icons do not show.  The pop-out names are there, but no icon.  Missing icons include terminal, BackinTime, Workspace Switcher, System Monitor and Trash.  They work, but are invisible.23:14
acidrainjrhey i need a little help23:14
acidrainjrmy software updater isnt working correctly its glitching23:15
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chowderboooossss: you should use the Ubuntu install CD to set apart a space for Ubuntu. If you have a 500GB HDD make a 250GB NTFS partition. Have Windows install into that. Reboot with Ubuntu liveCD. Install Ubuntu. Windows will be automatically added to GRUB23:17
boooossssThanks chowder23:18
chowderis there an Ubuntu channel for more advanced users?23:18
chowderboooossss: no problem23:18
raven_chowder, any idea?23:19
wilee-nileechowder, There are specific ubuntu channels none are rated by skill levels.23:20
raven_wilee-nilee! You're on here a lot aren't you23:20
wilee-nileeand what's you definition of advanced anyway, lol23:21
wilee-nileeraven_, way to much. ;)23:21
raven_wilee-nilee care to help me with my problems?23:21
chowderwilee-nilee: well if one of the Ubuntu channels was for developers it would imply that the people there have a deeper understanding of the OS23:22
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chowderwilee-nilee: that's what I'm asking. Not if one of the channels is specifically labeled "*buntu-experts channel"23:22
wilee-nileeraven_, If I see you post and I think I have an answer I will post right now I'm just on the channel doing some other things is all.23:22
raven_While in a Skype call, any application that tries to play music stays at 00:00. Additionally there is no sound coming from Chrome when playing YouTube videos, etc. But only when in a Skype call. Pavucontrol does not identify Skype at all.23:23
monkeyjuicechowder: #ubuntu+123:23
chowdermonkeyjuice: thank you23:23
wilee-nileechowder, I believe there is a developers channel, but I think it is by invitation, many on al these channels are at that level, but need not advertise it.23:23
kd5tkchttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=htjJH8InnsQ23:24
kd5tkcgreat music23:24
chowderwilee-nilee: yeah I'm aware of how IRC works. I just have an issue getting Xen running23:24
wilee-nileeraven_, I will say though that I use my W8/XP/ and W7 setups for windows stuff and linux for linux, some things run better in each, they are all OS's to me, I just happened to start with open source originally23:25
wilee-nileechowder, You well aware, yet you ask questions than respond in a aggressive manner, isn't that special.23:26
raven_wilee-nilee are you sure you meant to direct that at me?23:26
kd5tkcI come across the same... Linux is all my desktops OS but there are some applications that are better run on windows23:26
raven_wilee-nilee you're saying that skype just won't run well in linux23:26
chowderwilee-nilee: you're useless.23:26
wilee-nileeraven_, Yes, for example I would not bother with skype in linux, it runs great in windows, is all I basically meant, they own it now.23:27
kostkonraven_, skype runs fine on linux23:27
kd5tkcEX, a old game called CIVILITION cant seem to get it to run properly in wine23:27
kd5tkcCIVILIZATION23:27
kd5tkcsorry23:27
raven_kostkon I can agree that it does, it ran fine under Mint 13. I just switched to Ubuntu 12.04 and only now do I have problems23:27
wilee-nileeease of travel, not an argument of compatibility, is my point23:28
chowderraven_: I run skype in Linux. The issue may be with the sound card you're using or the driver.23:28
kostkonraven_, im not sure why skype is blocking audio, it should work fine.23:28
kd5tkcskype runs fine on my linux system23:29
kostkonraven_, have you by any chance made any changes to your audio setup or skype23:30
ScuniziI'm looking for a program to create "shapefiles" which are overlays on maps like openstreetmaps.  Is there anything in the repos that will do this?23:30
SteveH_I clobbered myself by not thinking thru a rm -r /var/lib/* command. I reinstalled 12.04, and have slowly built back up. However, my Unity sidebar has a problem whereby some of the icons do not show. The pop-out names are there, but no icon. Missing icons include terminal, BackinTime, Workspace Switcher, System Monitor and Trash. They work, but are invisible.23:31
jmgkhi Dr_Willis23:32
jmgklol your on a phone23:33
Dr_Willisactually im on my netbook hot-spotted to my phone.23:33
chowderScunizi: tried using google? The repositories are huge and most people won't be able to tell you if "X" is in the repos off the top of their head23:34
raven_kostkon I think I've got it23:34
kostkonraven_, plase do share23:34
raven_kostkon skype is accessing alsa directly and blocking pulse23:34
raven_as soon as I end a skype call the music starts playing23:35
kostkonraven_, why is that. it shouldn't be doing that23:35
kostkonraven_, how did you install skype23:35
raven_kostkon I installed via skype's website23:35
raven_the .deb23:35
raven_it isn't in the repos23:35
trismScunizi: maybe grads ? just from a quick search23:36
kostkonraven_, it is. you just need to enable the partner repo23:36
trism!info grads23:36
ubottugrads (source: grads): Grid Analysis and Display System for earth science data. In component universe, is optional. Version 2:2.0.1-1 (raring), package size 4470 kB, installed size 8356 kB23:36
raven_kostkon how do I do that23:36
kostkonraven_, did you download the 12.04 multiarch deb?23:36
raven_kostkon yes23:36
kostkonraven_, ok just checking23:37
Scunizichowder trism I've been using google and following links for a couple of hours.. there's lots of reference but nothing that describes how to or with what to create a shapefile.. frustrating. I was hoping someone else had attempted this.23:37
raven_kostkon let me do a full reinstall. How do I remove everything involved with skype23:37
raven_do I do sudo apt-get purge skype23:37
trismScunizi: I only mentioned grads because I did an apt-file search from shapefiles and found: /usr/share/doc/grads/html/shapefiles.html in the grads package23:38
kostkonraven_, open the software centre, search for skype and remove it. then from the menu, select edit -> software sources and in the 3rd part software tab and enable the partner repo23:38
trismScunizi: and the description sounded about right23:38
raven_kostkon when I open the software center and search for skype it isn't there23:38
kostkonraven_, in terminal give: apt-cache policy skype23:39
raven_kostkon PM'd you the output23:39
Scunizitrism: I see that now.. however it looks like it's for viewing a dataset and not creating one. I'm trying to create a map overlay showing a shaded area or several shaded areas23:40
chowderScunizi: sorry. I have no experience with the program you mentioned.23:41
Scunizichowder: no worries.. thanks23:42
raven_kostkon I purged skype and enabled partner apps but it still doesn't show up in ubu software center23:43
kostkonraven_, try giving first a: sudo apt-get update23:43
kostkonraven_, close the software centre if it is open23:43
raven_kostkon good call hold on23:43
Dr_Willisraven_:  way to  'common' a problem. ;)23:44
Lars_?23:44
raven_Dr_Willis ?23:44
trismScunizi: hmm, http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Shapefiles has qgis listed, which we also have, you just apparently have to enable the osm plugin23:44
raven_Oh you mean too* common a problem23:44
trism!info qgis23:44
ubottuqgis (source: qgis): Geographic Information System (GIS). In component universe, is extra. Version 1.7.4+1.7.5~20120320-1.1 (raring), package size 3823 kB, installed size 9843 kB23:44
raven_kostkon still no go23:45
raven_kostkon it's not in the repos23:45
Lars_Hey i can get internet on my ubuntu machine23:45
kostkonraven_, apt-cache policy skype   again23:45
raven_kostkon PM23:45
Lars_Hello?23:46
Dr_Willisi must see a dozen people in here a week that have apt issues that are fixed by apt-get update, apt-get upgrade.23:46
Dr_WillisHello Lars_23:46
Lars_Hey i can get internet on my ubuntu machine23:46
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Lars_Hey i can get internet on my ubuntu machine Help!23:47
Scunizitrism: looking at that now.. When I search synaptic for qgis I get a couple of packages listed but don't look like the gui version23:47
monkeyjuiceim thinking the can is a cant in Lars_ message23:48
Ben64!patience | Lars_23:48
ubottuLars_: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com/ or http://ubuntuforums.org/ or http://askubuntu.com/23:48
Ben64!details | Lars_ this too23:48
ubottuLars_ this too: Please give us full details. For example: "I have a problem with ..., I'm running Ubuntu version .... When I try to do ..., I get the following output: ..., but I expected it to do ..."23:48
Scunizitrism: however there is a ppa for the most recent.. http://www.qgis.org/en/site/forusers/alldownloads.html#ubuntu23:48
Dr_WillisLars_:  with the right hardware and drivers.. yes.23:48
trismScunizi: I think it should just be: sudo apt-get install qgis; it lists qt as a dep, so should be a gui23:48
Scunizitrism: doing an apt-cache search shows the same at synaptic.. qpx2shp & qLandkartegt23:49
Scunizi*as23:49
trismScunizi: are you on 12.04? I see now it wasn't added until 12.1023:50
Lars_Oh. ok. so im running the latest version of ubuntu dual booting a xp copy it tells me that it cant find internet drivers or a card or something23:50
Lars_hg23:51
Dr_WillisLars_:  and what is your network card exactly?23:51
Lars_sorry my cat got on my keyboard lol!23:51
Lars_oh Dr_Willis . i cant tell its in side my pc23:52
Lars_OH for some reason it decidid to work now.23:52
Scunizitrism: yes.. I like to stick with "stable-er" releases.. it's my work machine.23:53
Scunizitrism: getting the unstable version from the ppa now.. there's a number of files.23:53

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