[00:00] <wilee-nilee> alexa, use more of the letters in their nick
[00:00] <wilee-nilee> before hitting the tab
[00:01] <alexa> wilee-nilee, thanks. it works
[00:01] <wilee-nilee> alexa, Depending on the irc client you can double click the  nick and paste it ahnd hit tab for a comma.
[00:01] <wilee-nilee> and*
[00:02] <wilee-nilee> cool you got it
[00:02] <alexa> double click and middle click in text box :D xchat
[00:03] <wilee-nilee> heh, did not think of the middle click thanks
[00:04] <Yowl> Can anyone name a program or method of hiding and/or locking files and/or partitions?
[00:05] <Yowl> And I know about hide with files with .in front of them
[00:06] <Jordan_U> Yowl: What is your end goal?
[00:06] <guest-af8pWB> So I just had to do a hard restart and now I can't login to my main acount
[00:06] <Jordan_U> quadHelix: Why did you have to do a hard restart?
[00:07] <guest-af8pWB> Like the login screen opens, I enter my password, click login, it blinks and then goes back to the login
[00:07] <guest-af8pWB> The UI became unresponsive... I guess I should have did sudo shutdown -r now
[00:07] <guest-af8pWB> now that I think about it
[00:07] <Yowl> Jordan_U: Pretty much what I just said, to make files and/or partitions invisible and/or inaccessible unless you unlock them etc.
[00:08] <wilee-nilee> !reisub | guest-af8pWB for future notice
[00:08] <sealbhach> Something like encrypt a partition?
[00:08] <Yowl> Sure
[00:08] <guest-af8pWB> ahh thanks
[00:09] <guest-af8pWB> any idea why I can't login?
[00:09] <wilee-nilee> guest-af8pWB, Hard to say really where to go, if it were me and it was random I would fsck it.
[00:09] <GreatBacon> Yowl: The easiest way to do it would be through permissions.  You won't be hiding them, but locking/inaccessible for sure.  User must change to a group with permissions to access the file.   Something like that maybe?
[00:09] <Jordan_U> Yowl: If you're trying to prevent people from reading your important files then the only secure option is encryption, that can be done at various levels (individual file based, directory based (sort of, with ecryptfs) and partition based.
[00:09] <repudiate> what does encryptfs do?
[00:09] <k1l> guest-af8pWB: see syslog and the .xsession-errors in the users home
[00:10] <wilee-nilee> guest-af8pWB,You did not change the desktop manager lately did you?
[00:10] <guest-af8pWB> No
[00:10] <guest-af8pWB> its 13.04 default
[00:11] <GreatBacon> repudiate: it's for encryption.  did you know that you can issue a trailing '-h' to just about anything to find out what it does in short form, or 'man {programname}' for something more detailed?
[00:11] <Jordan_U> repudiate: It takes files in a directory on a normal unencrypted filesystem and encrypts their names and contents, then allows you to (with a password or key) mount a virtual filesystem where the files are accessible unencrypted.
[00:11] <guest-af8pWB> cant sudo su from guest account
[00:11] <guest-af8pWB> Guess I can ssh from another machine
[00:11] <wilee-nilee> guest-af8pWB, Number of things to check the HD, a live cd, and check with gparted and the smartdisk check.
[00:12] <repudiate> Jordan_U: Thanks.  It sounded familiar.
[00:12] <Yowl> Jordan_U:  Does encryption require time to encrypt and decrypt each time you want to lock and unlock?
[00:12] <Jordan_U> repudiate: You're welcome. It's the basis of Ubuntu's encrypted home directory feature.
[00:12] <repudiate> What is the basis?
[00:12] <Jordan_U> repudiate: Ecryptfs.
[00:12] <repudiate> GreatBacon: What does -h have to do with it?
[00:13] <repudiate> Jordan_U: I thought that it was third-party software.
[00:13] <GreatBacon> repudiate: trailing a -h, for example 'encryptfs -h', gives short help
[00:13] <guest-af8pWB> where is the syslog
[00:13] <repudiate> ohh thanks GreatBacon
[00:13] <GreatBacon> guest: /var
[00:14] <GreatBacon> You're welcome repudiate
[00:14] <guest-af8pWB> thanks
[00:14] <GreatBacon> You're welcome guest
[00:14] <Yowl> Jordan_U: Does encryption require time to encrypt and decrypt each time you want to lock and unlock?
[00:14] <Jordan_U> Yowl: Please be patient, I'm still typing out my response.
[00:15] <Yowl> l
[00:15] <Yowl> k
[00:15] <Jordan_U> Yowl: Any form of encryption will add a little bit of CPU time for unencryption, but that is usually negligable. With ecryptfs or an encrypted partition you mount the volume once, and then all of the files are accessible as normal files until you unmount again, and in almost any workload you won't notice the additional time/CPU taken to decrypt (it's often decrypted faster than your HD can read the data).
[00:18] <Yowl> Jordan_U:  You're talking about this,https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/ECryptfs right? It says you can't encrypt partitions with it. But I am not sure why you couldn't/why that would be. Also is the space within the encrypt set, or can it expand or contract according to usage?
[00:19] <jrib> Yowl: "or"
[00:19] <Darkmg> anyone in here help with OOP with UML, or know what channel I should be in?
[00:19] <Jarchy> What are the new features of Ubuntu 13.04
[00:19] <guest-af8pWB> So I mv .xsession-errors .xsession-error.old then try to login
[00:19] <Yowl> jrib: "?"
[00:19] <guest-af8pWB> It didn't generate a new .xsession-error
[00:19] <k1l> guest-af8pWB: no
[00:20] <jrib> Yowl: Jordan_U said "ecryptfs or an encrypted partition"
[00:20] <k1l> guest-af8pWB: just show the .xsession-errors in a pastebin so we can have a look if you are not familiar with such error messages
[00:20] <guest-af8pWB> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6207347/
[00:21] <Yowl> Jordan_U:  And if I use this, what happens if I replace my install with a new version, or even a new distro, does the encryption and its unlocking mechanisms carry over in home or something?
[00:21] <Jordan_U> Yowl: Yes, that is what I was talking about when I mentioned Ecryptfs. I also mentioned using an encrypted partition, which is something different (LUKS).
[00:21] <Jarchy> What are the new features of 13.0r
[00:21] <Jarchy> 4
[00:21] <k1l> !raring | Jarchy
[00:22] <Jarchy> What is new?
[00:22] <Pici> Check the release notes.
[00:22] <k1l> guest-af8pWB: make sure your users home belongs to your user
[00:23] <guest-af8pWB> kil: It does
[00:23] <guest-af8pWB> ls -l
[00:24] <k1l> guest-af8pWB: use "ls -al" and see if there is a .Xauthority file
[00:25] <Jordan_U> Yowl: If you use ecryptfs and reinstall Ubuntu I think Ubuntu's installer will be smart enough to notice and configure things properly, with other distros you can certainly do it but it might require manual setup. If you use Ubuntu's encrypted home feature then everything required to decrypt is stored in your home directory.
[00:25] <guest-af8pWB> There is in my home dir. "/home/stephen" there are actually a bunch, with various extensions after.
[00:25] <guest-af8pWB> Kil: but there is one that is just .Xauthority
[00:26] <k1l> guest-af8pWB: does this one belong to stephen:stephen?
[00:26] <guest-af8pWB> kil: yes
[00:26] <guest-af8pWB> kil: noi
[00:26] <guest-af8pWB> kil: sorr
[00:26] <guest-af8pWB> it belongs to root
[00:26] <guest-af8pWB> the others belong to stephen
[00:27] <k1l> that can be a problem. it happens  if you fiddle with root rights like misuse of sudo
[00:27] <k1l> guest-af8pWB: use chown to make it stephan:stephan again
[00:28] <Jordan_U> Yowl: Ecryptfs still keeps individual files as separate files in the underlying filesystem, so for instance if you had two files in an ecryptfs encrypted directory, one a text file and the other a video and you looked at the directory before "unlocking" you would see two files with random filenames, one that was a few Kb and the other that was a few GiB. So while you wouldn't be able to tell exactly what each was, you could easily ...
[00:28] <Yowl> Jordan_U encrypted home feature, means it has to be home that is encrypted, and only home can be encrypted by it?
[00:28] <Jordan_U> ... guess which was the video and which the text file.
[00:28] <guest-af8pWB> Kil: sudo chown .Xauthority stephen:stephen?
[00:29] <rrm> doest 12.04 LTS work ok with Lenovo x130e?
[00:29] <k1l> guest-af8pWB: change tha last both: chown user:group file
[00:30] <guest-af8pWB> kil: ok thanks
[00:30] <Jordan_U> Yowl: If you want to use the nice simple to setup and use stock feature, yes. You can also manually configure ecryptfs for any individual directory, though if you wanted to encrypt all your files including system files (which honestly does *not* make much sense) you would want to go with an encrypted root partition (using LUKS).
[00:30] <guest-af8pWB> kil: its permissions are -rw-------
[00:30] <guest-af8pWB> kil: is that ok?
[00:30] <k1l> yes, that is fine
[00:30] <guest-af8pWB> kil, ok ill try to switch users
[00:31] <rrm> is there support for bmc432224 wireless card in LTS?
[00:31] <guest-af8pWB> kil, that fixed it. Thanks! Could you explain how the owner would get changed?
[00:32] <Yowl> Jordan_U: I don't exactly get what you mean by encrypt all files including file system, I want to encrypt a specific chunk of data, but I do not want to encrypt home.
[00:32] <k1l> guest-af8pWB: that is a comon problem if users use "sudo" in wrong places. like running GUI programs with sudo
[00:33] <Jordan_U> Yowl: Will all the data you want to encrypt be in the same directory, or a small set of directories?
[00:33] <guest-af8pWB> kil so like sudo gedit is bad?
[00:33] <k1l> yes
[00:34] <Jordan_U> !gksudo | guest-af8pWB
[00:34] <Yowl> Jordan_U One master directory with sub directories AKA folders within it (and some folders within folders etc)
[00:34] <guest-af8pWB> Oh I see.. Ill take a look.
[00:34] <guest-af8pWB> Thanks for the advice
[00:35] <Jordan_U> Yowl: Then you can manually configure ecryptfs to encrypt just those directories (or make a separate encrypted partition for just those files, but that is much less flexible).
[00:36] <Mixxit> cya guys thanks
[00:37] <Yowl> Jordan_U If As I asked earlier, if I do it that way, is the space within flexible? I mean can I add and remove content to the encrypted directories and have the amount of space encrypted shrink and grow accordingly?
[00:37] <Jordan_U> Yowl: Yes.
[00:38] <Jordan_U> Yowl: If you look more at how ecryptfs works you'll understand why that's true, and I think it's pretty novel / cool :)
[00:39] <skinux> Can Ubuntu, GParted, Terminal, and an IRC client survive a few minutes without 'home' directory being mounted?
[00:39] <Yowl> Jordan_U:  But that website says "eCryptfs is an actual file-system" and if it is a FS, doesn't it have to have proclaimed space like any FS? I mean by merit of being a FS, doesn't it become a quasi partition? As far as I have always heard, you can not have more then one FS on any partition.
[00:40] <qq_> This may be a dumb question but why do the iso releases (http://releases.ubuntu.com/precise/) get built from the week of the point release (8/22/13 - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PrecisePangolin/ReleaseSchedule) and the cloud images (http://cloud-images.ubuntu.com/releases/precise/release/) get built from the latest week (10/3/13) ? Is there a difference?
[00:43] <semitones> hello
[00:43] <semitones> gparted detects errors with my windows main partition. Is windows better at fixing ntfs than linux?
[00:44] <k1l> semitones: i dont know if its scientifical, but i try to let windows fix its stuff
[00:44] <semitones> hmm, k
[00:45] <semitones> :( gparted says "libparted bug found" :(
[00:48] <mrrcp> denyhost or fail2ban?
[00:48] <Yowl> Jordan_U: But that website says "eCryptfs is an actual file-system" and if it is a FS, doesn't it have to have proclaimed space like any FS? I mean by merit of being a FS, doesn't it become a quasi partition? As far as I have always heard, you can not have more then one FS on any partition.
[00:48] <mrrcp> !denyhost
[00:48] <mrrcp> ?denyhost
[00:48] <mrrcp> !fail2ban
[00:48] <mrrcp> ?fail2ban
[00:48] <mrrcp> bla!
[00:48] <skinux> I'm a little confused, user account says administrator, but I'm not logged in as root.
[00:49] <wilee-nilee> skinux, whay are you logged in as root?
[00:49] <wilee-nilee> why*
[00:49] <zykotick9> skinux: ubuntu doesn't use root account, but instead sudo.  see "/msg ubottu sudo" and "/msg ubottu notroot" for more details.
[00:49] <skinux> I'm -not- logged in as root, that is why it confuses me. I thought administrator was root or a user in root group.
[00:50] <wilee-nilee> skinux, Ah I miss read that the main install account is a admin, you just need a  password to execute it
[00:50] <zykotick9> skinux: in ubuntu it means, in "sudo" group.
[00:50] <k1l> skinux: ubuntu disables the root login. so a administrator is a user who can use sudo
[00:51] <ampw> how do i change files icon
[00:51] <ampw> i have a jar file that i want to change the icon of
[00:52] <Ziber_> part
[00:52] <skinux> Oh, ok.
[00:53] <semitones> I think my USB drive is messed up. It made gparted crash. What can I do?
[00:54] <wilee-nilee> semitones, This a HD and can the smartdisk app see it?
[00:54] <semitones> thumbdrive
[00:54] <semitones> what's smartdisk?
[00:55] <wilee-nilee> semitones, Not a hd inspection app, all over the web if you really want to know.
[00:55] <wilee-nilee> is a, not was a misspell
[00:56] <semitones> ok, i'll look for it in the repos
[00:56] <semitones> when i tried to gparted it, it says IO error
[00:58] <Yowl> Jordan_U: Are you still there?
[00:59] <Yowl> Splatter_Waste_F: Please don't send me bot like sales pitches for coffins....
[01:00] <wilee-nilee> semitones, Dies it crash on the read at the beginning of gparted?
[01:00] <joshua_> hi. Im trying to run a program but I get this error in the terminal:err:module:attach_process_dlls "symphony.dll" failed to initialize, aborting
[01:00] <joshua_> err:module:LdrInitializeThunk Main exe initialization for L"C:\\Program Files\\RebirthRO\\RebirthRO.bin" failed, status c0000005
[01:01] <wilee-nilee> semitones, smartdisk is already installed I don;t think it will read a usb flash though.
[01:01] <KillerG> hello
[01:01] <semitones> wilee-nilee, any ideas?
[01:01] <KillerG> i have a question
[01:01] <wilee-nilee> semitones, I asked a question.
[01:02] <wilee-nilee> semitones, Does it crash on the read at the beginning of gparted?
[01:02] <KillerG> i just install the latest version of ubuntu and i can connect to the wifi but the led for my wifi keeps blinking
[01:03] <wilee-nilee> KillerG, run lspci ans identify the wifi to the channel.
[01:03] <semitones> wilee-nilee, gparted is able to scan it ok, but trying to apply any operations crashes it
[01:03] <daftykins> KillerG: that's probably showing activity
[01:04] <KillerG>  daftykins: its not suppised to to do that
[01:04] <daftykins> it's not? one of my old wifi cards does :D
[01:05] <KillerG> its an hp pavilion
[01:05] <wilee-nilee> semitones, I would just try to see if you can delete all and make a new partition table, it might just be broken, flash are cheap. Really your not new here, you would know that details are important, for example you have data you might want there.
[01:05] <KillerG> the thing is
[01:05] <KillerG> it says im connected to wifi
[01:06] <KillerG> but it doesnt let me load anything on firefox
[01:07] <semitones> wilee-nilee, you're right, but I don't have any data I care about. How would I try to delete all? I've only used gparted before. I'm not sure what technique to use.
[01:08] <Guto> kd os  mano e  as mina  da ki ?
[01:08] <wilee-nilee> semitones, What did you try in gparted?
[01:08] <semitones> wilee-nilee, tried deleting the partition
[01:08] <KillerG> i really need to get this done
[01:08] <KillerG> it says im connected to wifi
[01:09] <KillerG> but it doesnt let me load anything on firefox
[01:09] <rrm> can I watch netflix in ubuntu?
[01:10] <delinquentme> hey all could someone give me their output for $ which java
[01:10] <delinquentme> and $ echo $JAVA_HOME
[01:10] <bwayne> !netflix | rrm: yes you can. follow these instructions.
[01:11] <bwayne> delinquentme: nothing here.
[01:12] <delinquentme> bwayne, nothing for JAVA_HOME either?
[01:12] <semitones> delinquentme, /usr/bin/java, and no result
[01:12] <wilee-nilee> semitones, dd should work in general, be sure you have it pointing at the flash. http://askubuntu.com/questions/308898/wipe-usb-flash-drive-ubuntu
[01:12] <bwayne> delinquentme: nope.
[01:13] <rrm> bwayne: how about xbmc?
[01:13] <bwayne> !xbmc
[01:14] <bwayne> oh well.
[01:14] <semitones> wilee-nilee, thanks. No errors so far :)
[01:15] <bwayne> rrm: https://apps.ubuntu.com/cat/applications/xbmc/
[01:15] <Ari-Yang> rrm: what about xbmc?....
[01:15] <wilee-nilee> semitones, Cool, yhou will just need to make a new partition table in gparted, I would keep an eye on it if you get it running, you know the use it's had.
[01:17] <yuk> Hello everyone I am having trouble with my Triple boot with Win8, Saucy Salamander, and Mint 15. Can someone lend a hand with my UEFI issue?
[01:18] <yuk> I made a post on the forums here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2179171&p=12810340#post12810340
[01:18] <semitones> wilee-nilee, yes, thanks!
[01:24] <skinux> Should /home/ubuntu/Ubuntu exist?
[01:25] <skinux> I've /home/home/ubuntu/Ubuntu/ which contains home (empty) and vmlinuz.old
[01:27] <macsplean> wondering if somehow can help me figure out how to open sublime text 2 from the terminal
[01:41] <skinux> files in .ecrypt are simply encrypted versions of everything, right?
[01:45] <qq_> Is there a better place to ask this...
[01:45] <qq_> This may be a dumb question but why do the iso releases (http://releases.ubuntu.com/precise/) get built from the week of the point release (8/22/13 - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PrecisePangolin/ReleaseSchedule) and the cloud images (http://cloud-images.ubuntu.com/releases/precise/release/) get built from the latest week (10/3/13) ? Is there a difference?
[01:45] <comodo_dragon> ubuntu 13.10 rocks
[01:45] <comodo_dragon> :D
[01:48] <arowana> Hi all, Good Morning
[01:49] <Jarchy> Good morning
[01:49] <Jarchy> It is night time though
[01:49] <daftykins> there are many users in many time zones, it's an accepted standard that you can greet anyone as any time of day and let it slide...
[01:50] <Jarchy> Ok lol my bad
[01:50] <comodo_dragon> hehe
[01:50] <comodo_dragon> its early morning here.
[01:51] <Jarchy> Well I hope you have a great breakfast
[01:51] <Jarchy> I had a good dinner
[01:51] <comodo_dragon> ha
[01:51] <daftykins> :D
[01:51] <comodo_dragon> its like 3am here :D
[01:51] <daftykins> ^same
[01:51] <comodo_dragon> what did you  get for dinner?
[01:51] <Jarchy> Oh nice all night er
[01:51] <comodo_dragon> :D
[01:52] <Jarchy> Taco hamburger helper
[01:52] <comodo_dragon> hehe we dont get them here
[01:53] <Jarchy> No!!!!!!!  I can't live without it lol
[01:53] <comodo_dragon> lol
[01:53] <Jarchy> You guys gave in and out?
[01:54] <Jarchy> *have
[01:54] <comodo_dragon> yea
[01:54] <comodo_dragon> takeaway, but its crap
[01:54] <Jarchy> That's what's up  all is not lost
[01:55] <comodo_dragon> :D
[01:55] <comodo_dragon> at least in where i live its crap
[01:55] <comodo_dragon> probably in london might be better
[01:55] <comodo_dragon> ;)
[01:55] <comodo_dragon> chinese takeaway etc
[01:55] <arowana> what kinds of projects r ppl working on in Ubuntu.....??
[01:55] <arowana> we are using it for proxy - auto backup - testdb - etc
[01:56] <Jarchy> Oh well I love it  I'm not a fat person though I am like 160
[01:56] <Sinc_> I use it for a testing server of mine, that's about it
[01:56] <arowana> gr8
[01:56] <Jarchy> I like to learn to program
[01:56] <arowana> Program in ??
[01:56] <comodo_dragon> i try to get it from well 'populated and used' places, cos i have had bad experiences in the past.
[01:56] <Sinc_> I still use Windows for a lot, though
[01:56] <comodo_dragon> for what?
[01:56] <Sinc_> Since Word is still best typesetting program, and Photoshop is important for me too
[01:57] <Jarchy> I stopped using Windows years ago
[01:57] <Sinc_> And unfortunately neither of those run properly in WINE
[01:57] <Sinc_> Jarchy, it's sort of required for my job
[01:57] <arowana> ok, can't get out of windows....
[01:57] <comodo_dragon> i dont like windows because when im reading and writing, i have to alt tab all the time
[01:57] <Sinc_> Our smartcards don't work properly in most Linux distros
[01:57] <comodo_dragon> in linux ican just point and scroll
[01:57] <Sinc_> comodo_dragon, yeah, workspaces are nice
[01:58] <arowana> hmm
[01:58] <Jarchy> Yah that's lame OpenOffice and gimp work for replacements
[01:58] <Sinc_> Heh, well
[01:58] <Sinc_> Not really
[01:58] <arowana> We are using Libre...
[01:58] <Sinc_> OpenOffice is missing quite a few things I want
[01:58] <arowana> its improving
[01:58] <Sinc_> and GIMP just really isn't a proper Photoshop replacement yet
[01:58] <comodo_dragon> libreword is ok, compared to when it was 1-2 years ago. it had awful gui..
[01:58] <Sinc_> They're good for most stuff I do, but occasionally
[01:58] <Sinc_> I need Photoshop
[01:59] <arowana> Doesnt Ubuntu have n e good Photoshop alternative??
[01:59] <Sinc_> GIMP + Inkscape is really the closest there is
[01:59] <Sinc_> And neither of those has developed to the point I'd like yet
[02:00] <Jarchy> Yah  I have never Got very far in photoshop I even used gimp in windows
[02:00] <arowana> n e one using sublime text??
[02:00] <Sinc_> I like sublime text
[02:00] <Sinc_> Bit spendy though
[02:00] <arowana> hmm
[02:00] <Jarchy> I it is paid app
[02:00] <arowana> We are using VIM havent got to useing sublime to its full potential...
[02:01] <wilee-nilee> This is not chant but support take it to #ubuntu-offtopic
[02:01] <wilee-nilee> chat*
[02:01] <Sinc_> Yessir
[02:02] <arowana> ok...
[02:03] <comodo_dragon> vim is annoying
[02:03] <comodo_dragon> pico/nano ftw
[02:03] <zykotick9> comodo_dragon: please keep "comments" out of this channel.
[02:04] <arowana> bye 4 now, time to leave for office...
[02:04] <arowana> TC
[02:05] <symba> what shitty users in here
[02:06] <Boing66> Hello
[02:07] <comodo_dragon> dont kill the conversation.
[02:11] <ampw> if i install a program why wouldnt it execute
[02:12] <ampw> i installed from source properly no erros
[02:12] <wilee-nilee> ampw, why source, did you check the repos, and what is it?
[02:12] <ampw> sylpheed.
[02:12] <ampw> i've never had a problem installing it before
[02:13] <wilee-nilee> !info sylpheed
[02:13] <deckard_> hello. I have an error message, may i post it here? IT has to do with Software Center
[02:13] <wilee-nilee> ampw, Again why source?
[02:13] <daftykins> deckard_: use paste.ubuntu.com if it's a long one
[02:13] <deckard_> ty
[02:13] <ampw> 3.3 is newest
[02:14] <ampw> repo has 3.2
[02:14] <wilee-nilee> deckard_, Sure if its long pastebin it.
[02:14] <ampw> has a beta
[02:14] <deckard_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6207623/
[02:14] <wilee-nilee> ampw, where is this source from, technically from the repos is what's supported here.
[02:15] <ampw> from their website
[02:15] <wilee-nilee> deckard_, You add a repo?
[02:15] <deckard_> wilee-nilee, i do not know
[02:16] <wilee-nilee> deckard_, pastebin sudo apt-get update ; sudo apt-get upgrade
[02:16] <deckard_> ty
[02:16] <deckard_> wilee-nilee, been doing that, did not fix
[02:17] <wilee-nilee> ampw, If no one knows here you may have to contact them, details are important here.
[02:17] <wilee-nilee> deckard_, Right, however it would help to see what that shows.
[02:17] <deckard_> oh ok
[02:20] <deckard_> wilee-nilee, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6207634/
[02:22] <wilee-nilee> deckard_, If you were trying to install from the Software Center, run that in the terminal and pastebin it.
[02:23] <deckard_> wilee-nilee, how would i "run that int h terminal"
[02:24] <wilee-nilee> deckard_, Was it a install, it would be sudo apt-get install "app" without the quotation.
[02:25] <Ronus> Raring is giving me FITS!
[02:25] <Ronus> well an aspect of it is anyway
[02:25] <daftykins> Ronus: that's by design
[02:26] <Ronus> huh?
[02:26] <Ronus> Really?
[02:26] <daftykins> heh no i jest
[02:26] <daftykins> what's up?
[02:26] <Ronus> ah! LOL
[02:26] <Ronus> well my Ipod...it keeps crashing the WHOLE bloody thing.
[02:27] <Ronus> It, with Amarok
[02:28] <daftykins> tried another player? i keep hearing talk of Clementine
[02:28] <Ronus> Yep...tried it and it ALSO crashed/crashes.
[02:29] <Ronus> Thinking I must be missing something
[02:29] <daftykins> can't say i've ever touched Apple gear
[02:29] <daftykins> !ipod
[02:29] <daftykins> but i wonder if any of those links have any secrets
[02:30] <OerHeks> gtkpod used to work.
[02:30] <Ronus> Ah! okay...thanks.!
[02:34] <mrrcp> whats a good tool to monitor my traffic on my server?
[02:35] <zexcriz> i have an USB drive, but i can't change permissions to it. It only has owner me and access: create and delete files other than that i can't change any permission values. ?
[02:36] <wilee-nilee> zexcriz, How is it formatted?
[02:36] <daftykins> zexcriz: which file system?
[02:36] <wilee-nilee> fat, ntfs, or ext type partition?
[02:37] <zexcriz> ntfs
[02:37] <vrkhans> #islam
[02:37] <vrkhans> exit
[02:38] <daftykins> 0o
[02:38] <wilee-nilee> zexcriz, not sure what you mean by permission values, if you can create and delete files.
[02:39] <zohan> some body can u help me?
[02:40] <zexcriz> wilee-nilee, i want to give other users access rights. i can't change and give the attributes to the  zexcriz group read, write and execute permissions.
[02:40] <daftykins> zohan: you have to ask a question first
[02:40] <deckard_> wilee-nilee, quake terminal so sudo ap-get install quake terminal?
[02:40] <wilee-nilee> zohan, Doing?
[02:41] <deckard_> wilee-nilee, guake*
[02:41] <wilee-nilee> deckard_, sudo apt-get install guake
[02:42] <deckard_> wilee-nilee, ty, is there a command to just reset software center ?
[02:42] <wilee-nilee> zexcriz, Ah a network issue, not my area really, that info would have helped from the start is all.
[02:43] <zohan> i want to install nvidia optimus driver on ubuntu 12.04, i do based this tutorial http://wiki.ubuntu.com/ . but it's not work.
[02:43] <wilee-nilee> deckard_, Not sure why the software center is not working, I never use it myself, have you tried any other installs?
[02:43] <deckard_> so far none work, ill keep trying
[02:44] <zohan> sorry the tutorial it's here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bumblebee
[02:44] <zohan> and it's not work
[02:44] <zexcriz> wilee-nilee, what should i do ?
[02:44] <wilee-nilee> deckard_, It does seem broken, you might look on askubuntu with the error.
[02:45] <deckard_> ty, for your help
[02:45] <OerHeks> zexcriz, you cannot change permissions on ntfs, it is not posix.
[02:46] <zexcriz> OerHeks, http://askubuntu.com/questions/11840/how-to-chmod-on-an-ntfs-or-fat32-partition
[02:46] <zexcriz> it is POSIX compatible as mentioned in that thread.
[02:47] <OerHeks> zexcriz, wrong info.
[02:48] <zexcriz> OerHeks, ok
[02:50] <OerHeks> zexcriz, copy the files to the ext2/3/4 hdd and you can make it work
[02:53] <zexcriz> OerHeks, i am having 350 GB of local ubuntu mirror packages.
[02:54] <J-2> my ubuntu game library keeps growing im so excited :P
[02:54] <J-2> (linux)
[02:54] <J-2> w/e
[02:58] <pec_ar> hi. I shooted down my pc and i disconected everything to change it to another place. When i conected everything again and power it on, the monitor stay in stand by. Never change this state. What should i do? I tried with other monitor and the result is the same thing. The pc is workig because i can see the pages it serves.
[02:58] <cipherboy> Question for all... Recently got a new computer, came with Windows 8, figured I would set it up like my older (pre-UEFI) computers and dual boot it. Long story short, took a bit of work, but I got it. However, whenever I boot into windows 8, I always have to restore the bootloader because it seems to boot directly to Windows 8 without the GRUB menu (which I have set to always display), hence I am unable to switch back to Ubuntu. A
[02:59] <zexcriz> OerHeks, in the process i have messed up apache config, can i reinstall with again with default values of directory permissions etc ?
[03:00] <pec_ar> hi the pc is working but my monitor still is in standby. what can i do?
[03:01] <cipherboy> pec_ar: obvious question perhaps, but have you checked your display cables to verify they are plugged in?
[03:04] <pec_ar> cipherboy yes everithing is well connected.
[03:06] <pec_ar> cipherboy everything is connected and the pc is working but it's blind.
[03:06] <Dr_Willis> pec_ar:  so the bios and post screens worked?
[03:07] <pec_ar> cipherboy  no. The monitor is in stand by everytime.
[03:08] <trewq_> I have installed 12.04LTS. Is there a way to install mysql 5.6? The standard apt-get install gives me  mysql version 5.5.32
[03:09] <cipherboy> If by that you mean to respond to Dr_Willis's comment regarding whether or not it worked in bios/etc, when you tried with the other monitor, did you use the same cable? I had a VGA cable go bad on me once, only worked if it was in a certain position, which moving might have effected.
[03:09] <pec_ar> cipherboy  and the pc is working. i can see the http pages it serves by the net. It works with ubuntu 12.04
[03:10] <Dr_Willis> cipherboy:  yep. Bad cables. bad pins, also had  monitors just die and stay in sort of an off mode.
[03:11] <Dr_Willis> pec_ar:  so ssh in , tell the pc to rebooot. see if you see the bios/post screens.
[03:12] <pec_ar> cipherboy i tried with other monitor but it stays in standby mode too. I can't acces by ftp or ssh. Why? I don't know
[03:13] <Ronus> !RockBox
[03:14] <maxped> i recently switched the shell i use to zsh. it is vastly superior to bash. the only problem i have is:under bash, the history is stored seperatly from commands in tmux. so when i ssh into the machine, i would press up arrow to get 'tmux attach' press enter and be into my last session. now with zsh, its command history is tied into tmux in that when i ssh into the machine and press up arrow i get the last command i typed in tmux. so with zsh i 
[03:15] <pec_ar> Dr_Willis i can't access it by ssh or ftp. Why? I don't know.
[03:17] <Dr_Willis> pec_ar:  ssh -vvvv the ip (or 3 v's) will give vebose info about why
[03:17] <bambanx> guys i downloaded the last ubuntu and restart my windows but it dont have the option for double boot :( i want windows and ubuntu
[03:17] <Paulus68_1> bambanx: which windows version are you using?
[03:18] <bambanx> 7
[03:18] <Dr_Willis> bambanx:  so you Installed ubuntu? (how) and reboot. and do not get a grub menu. but boot straight to windows?
[03:18] <bambanx> no
[03:18] <bambanx> i dont intalled
[03:18] <bambanx> when i boot my cd ubuntu
[03:18] <ArcticVanguard> it's not showing you an option to install along side windows?
[03:18] <ArcticVanguard> what options does it show you?
[03:18] <bambanx> it dont have the option for install and keep the windows
[03:18] <Dr_Willis> bambanx:  so you cant get the pc to boot the cd? how did you burn the cd/dvd?
[03:19] <bambanx> dvd
[03:19] <Paulus68_1> bambanx: try this tutorial http://askubuntu.com/questions/336597/how-to-dual-boot-windows-7-x64-and-ubuntu-13-04-x64-as-bios-not-efi
[03:19] <Dr_Willis> we are having to guess a bit way to much here. :) be more verbose in what you are doing.
[03:19] <dToast> so if im on windows currenty, (7), and im installing and booting off of ubuntu LTS, my mac adress stays same?
[03:19] <bambanx> the first option is delete all my windows and it option have 2 checkbox , one about encript installation and other about lvm or some..
[03:19] <qin> dToast: Yup
[03:19] <dToast> k good
[03:19] <Dr_Willis> dToast:  with my router. it rembers mac-> ip addresses. so this pc always gets the same IP reguardless of what os i boot on it.
[03:20] <ArcticVanguard> hmm, how much free space is on your drive?
[03:20] <dToast> just making sure
[03:20] <Dr_Willis> dToast:  i imagine they COULD change. but many routers have specific 'rember/assign mac->ip' settings also
[03:20] <dToast> im on an airport extreme so it should remember it
[03:20] <Dr_Willis> i also tend to make the routers dhcp assign ips from like 192.168.11.100+   then i can set up machines on the lan with static ips. if i use below that range
[03:21] <Paulus68_1> bambanx: you can't burn the ubuntu iso to dvd since it won't work the best thing you can do is to use an usb drive in order to boot into ubuntu setup http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/create-a-usb-stick-on-windows
[03:21] <Dr_Willis> ie: my printer is always 192.168.11.15 ;) has been for years
[03:21] <Dr_Willis> brb
[03:22] <xangua> Paulus68_1: why it wouldn't work¿
[03:22] <dToast> thanks uys
[03:22] <dToast> guys*
[03:23] <Paulus68_1> xangua: I don't know why it won't work but know this from my own experience tried to burn the desktop iso to dvd and launched setup, and my pc didn't like that :(
[03:24] <Paulus68_1> xangua: since now a days you can easily boot through usb drives use an 4gb usb drive with serveral os on it in order to install your favorite os on a given computer
[03:24] <bambanx> paulus68, it need a spetial format the usb?
[03:25] <bambanx> i have things on the usb , should format ?
[03:25] <cfhowlett> bambanx, unetbootin will format the USB for  bootable mode
[03:26] <bambanx> this program have the format option i used http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/create-a-usb-stick-on-windows
[03:26] <cfhowlett> bambanx, that will also work
[03:26] <bambanx> u know what i mean cfhowlett
[03:26] <bambanx> cool
[03:27] <bambanx> never i booted from usb
[03:27] <Paulus68_1> bambanx: yes
[03:30] <bambanx> ok i will restart now
[03:31] <valerio> hello, somebody can help me on openerp?
[03:36] <comodo_dragon> no.
[03:41] <cfhowlett> !patience|valerio,
[03:42] <cfhowlett> !behelpful|comodo_dragon,
[03:42] <comodo_dragon> !offtopic
[03:45] <bambanx--> da
[03:45] <bambanx--> guys anyone can read me_
[03:45] <bambanx--> i am on ubuntu now , live
[03:46] <Paulus68_1> bambanx--: good to hear that
[03:46] <cfhowlett> bambanx--, see you we do
[03:46] <comodo_dragon> !lts
[03:46] <comodo_dragon> i dont like precise pangolin
[03:47] <Ari-Yang> comodo_dragon: what do you mean "don't like"?
[03:47] <comodo_dragon> bloated
[03:47] <comodo_dragon> 13* is better
[03:48] <cfhowlett> comodo_dragon, so don't use it.  no shortage of options.
[03:48] <comodo_dragon> it was not a good idea to make it 5years support.
[03:49] <bambanx--> ok, guys this is the options i have for install http://imgur.com/ra9LRUs
[03:49] <comodo_dragon> another 5 years of bloat.
[03:49] <Ari-Yang> comodo_dragon: I use 12.10...
[03:49] <Ari-Yang> comodo_dragon: okay you don't like it, move on :|
[03:49] <comodo_dragon> :) i use 13.10
[03:49] <cfhowlett> comodo_dragon, some users LIKE stability.
[03:49] <bambanx--> can be my ubuntu version_
[03:49] <bambanx--> ?
[03:49] <bambanx--> i downloaded 13.04
[03:50] <bambanx--> developer
[03:50] <Ben64> Ari-Yang: you'll need to upgrade twice before january
[03:50] <Paulus68_1> bambanx--: do you have free space on your windows 7 disk?
[03:50] <hooflung128> comodo_dragon: what makes it bloated over any other version
[03:50] <bambanx--> yeah a lot
[03:50] <bambanx--> my disk is 1 tera i have like 400 gigas free
[03:50] <cfhowlett> !dual|bambanx--,
[03:50] <cfhowlett> !dualboot|bambanx--,
[03:50] <Ari-Yang> Ben64: naw, I'm not upgrading.... don't want to have to bother with a possibly failed upgrade
[03:50] <Ben64> Ari-Yang: well you're going to lose support then
[03:51] <Paulus68_1> bambanx--: did you repartition your windows7 drive to free up some space otherwhise it's not going to work
[03:51] <user_> hiya
[03:51] <Ben64> and security updates, and every other update
[03:51] <user_> i need help
[03:51] <wallzero> Hey, I am having difficulty getting the Nvidia driver to load on boot. I am using kernel 3.11 and the Nvidia-331 driver
[03:51] <Ari-Yang> Ben64: no worries, I'm running on what I want, kernel 3.11, mesa 9.3 with UVD support
[03:51] <Paulus68_1> user_: !ask
[03:51] <Ari-Yang> Akaigo-Arc 3.11.3-031103-generic x86_64 Description: Ubuntu 12.10 Codename: quantal
[03:51] <cfhowlett> !details
[03:51] <hooflung128> i'm running 13.04 server on windows 8 pro via hyper-v here
[03:51] <user_> I'm not getting sound through hdmi
[03:51] <Ben64> Ari-Yang: thats nice, but you can't get help here like that
[03:51] <Paulus68_1> !ask |user_:
[03:51] <user_> comp connected via hdmi to tv
[03:52] <user_> oic
[03:52] <bambanx--> i remember when i was using ubuntu it have the option for keep my windows
[03:52] <bambanx--> in old ubuntu versions
[03:52] <Ari-Yang> Ben64: but I don't need help thanks :3
[03:52] <cfhowlett> bambanx--, you still have that option at the bottom of that screen:
[03:52] <comodo_dragon> 13.10 is smoother
[03:52] <Ari-Yang> 'sides this if offtopic :V
[03:52] <comodo_dragon> less bloated and much better.
[03:52] <Paulus68_1> bambanx--: that was probably before you using win7
[03:53] <wallzero> I receive this error from nvidia-settings, "You do not appear to be using the NVIDIA X driver. Please edit your X configuration file (just run `nvidia-xconfig` as root), and restart the X server."
[03:53] <Ben64> bambanx--: there must be something going on with your drive that doesn't allow extra partitions or something like that. pastebin "sudo parted -l"
[03:53] <comodo_dragon> !patience
[03:53] <user_> Using Ubuntu 13.04 connected from computer to flatscreen tv via hdmi cord, I'm getting no audio, despite all of my troubleshooting, also when i try to use the analogue jack I still get no sound, I've already tried changing the settings on the tv (insignia) and I'm still lost.
[03:53] <comodo_dragon> !gparted
[03:54] <bambanx--> Ben64: http://pastebin.com/7hLEqZ1r
[03:55] <wallzero> I have run nvidia-xconfig and rebooted, yet the Nvidia driver still does not load
[03:55] <comodo_dragon> !nvidia
[03:55] <Paulus68_1> bambanx--: you need to create a new partition on your windows 7 drive in order to be able to install ubuntu along side win 7
[03:55] <Ben64> bambanx--: try "something else" in the installer, you should be able to resize windows 7 and install on a new partition
[03:56] <bambanx--> If i do that can i keep my windows ?
[03:56] <bambanx--> i mean double boot?
[03:56] <Ben64> yes, just don't delete any partition
[03:56] <Paulus68_1> bambanx--: yes
[03:56] <comodo_dragon> yes
[03:57] <comodo_dragon> !dualboot
[03:57] <Ben64> bambanx--: give us another screenshot before you finalize the partitions if you'd like, and we'll check that its ok
[03:57] <Paulus68_1> !cooky |comodo_dragon
[03:57] <comodo_dragon> huh
[03:57] <Hathadar> Sometimes when I CTRL + ALT + t my screen does this. http://i1074.photobucket.com/albums/w403/Hathadar/screen_problem.png
[03:57] <Paulus68_1> !cookie |comodo_dragon
[03:57] <comodo_dragon> :D
[03:58] <Hathadar> Ubuntu 12.04.3 LTS on virtualbox.
[03:58] <bambanx--> type of the new partition?
[03:58] <comodo_dragon> are you a programmer?
[03:58] <bambanx--> primary ?
[03:59] <bambanx--> or logical?
[03:59] <Paulus68_1> Ben64:  can you do this also directly with gparted?
[03:59] <Ben64> bambanx--: logical if you plan on having more than 2 more partitions on that drive
[04:00] <Ben64> Paulus68_1: do what exactly
[04:00] <Paulus68_1> Ben64: resizing the partition
[04:00] <bambanx--> like that? http://imgur.com/08elEWe
[04:00] <Ben64> Paulus68_1: yes
[04:01] <bambanx--> i keep mount point on blank_
[04:01] <bambanx--> ?
[04:01] <Ben64> bambanx--: uh... looks like you deleted the windows partition there
[04:01] <Paulus68_1> Ben64: thought it was better to do under windows itself
[04:01] <bambanx--> there i have the option of /boot /home ...
[04:01] <linu> hi all i have installed windows xp in my ubuntu 12.04 pc using virtualbox,but when i plugin my pendrive it showed only in ubunt  but not in windows,how can solve this issue?
[04:01] <bambanx--> what?
[04:02] <comodo_dragon> !troll
[04:02] <bambanx--> i dont deleted nothing yet
[04:02] <Ben64> bambanx--: there was a sda2 with windows on it
[04:02] <cfhowlett> linu, you have to enable usb passthrough in virtualbox's settings
[04:02] <hooflung128> linu: do you have the USB passthrough enabled in VirtualBox properly first?
[04:02]  * comodo_dragon enjoys helping users in channel/
[04:03] <bambanx--> yeah
[04:03] <bambanx--> damn
[04:03] <bambanx--> i revert
[04:03] <Paulus68_1> bambanx--: don't save anything and quit the installation run in terminal sudo apt-get install gparted
[04:03] <bambanx--> thanks Ben64
[04:03] <linu> hooflung128 ya i will check and tell
[04:03] <bambanx--> ok
[04:03] <Paulus68_1> bambanx--: after that run sudo gparted
[04:03] <Ben64> bambanx--: yeah you want to resize it, not delete it :)
[04:04] <bambanx--> open gparted
[04:05] <Paulus68_1> bambanx--: then select your harddrive and resize it
[04:05] <bambanx--> i dont have the option for resize
[04:06] <hooflung128> linu: also your user may have to be added to the vboxusers group
[04:06] <bambanx--> http://imgur.com/vInwXXP
[04:06] <pegamoose> i am new I have a problem with my laptop and ubuntu 12.04 lts
[04:06] <hooflung128> linu: http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/31726/mount-usb-devices-in-virtualbox-with-ubuntu/ see if that works for you
[04:06] <cfhowlett> pegamoose, details?
[04:06] <Ben64> bambanx--: needs to be unmounted
[04:07] <bambanx--> i am unmonting
[04:07] <pegamoose> hp zd 7000 wireless switch disabled
[04:07] <cfhowlett> pegamoose, dual booting?  go to windows and enable.
[04:07] <pegamoose> not dual boot up
[04:08] <cfhowlett> bambanx--, if you're planning to dual bootk, ]]]
[04:08] <cfhowlett> pegamoose, did it ever work?
[04:08] <bambanx--> what u mean cfhowlett
[04:08] <Dr_Willis> you did try the special fn/whatever keys to toggle wifi on/off?
[04:08] <pegamoose> idk got the unit with out a os
[04:09] <cfhowlett> bambanx--, you're going to need to fix that windows installation if you want it to work.  better to do so prior to installing ubuntu.
[04:09] <bambanx--> what u mean with fix?
[04:09] <cfhowlett> pegamoose, look on your keyboard for the hardware switch
[04:09] <pegamoose> too late unit had no operating system
[04:09] <cfhowlett> bambanx--, I mean get the windows disk, boot and run "windows repair"
[04:10] <pegamoose> found the hard ware switch but it is disabled
[04:10] <Paulus68_1> cfhowlett: he just wants to dual boot and in order to do so with a win7 he needs to resize the partition first
[04:10] <Paulus68_1> cfhowlett: no repairs needed at this point in my opinion
[04:10] <pegamoose> no ti will be a ubuntu only
[04:11] <cfhowlett> paulus68, I understood that he'd deleted his win, but OK
[04:11] <cfhowlett> !who
[04:11] <badomun2> bandwith
[04:11] <cfhowlett> pegamoose, don't get confused.
[04:11] <Paulus68_1> cfhowlett: no he didn't do that just yet we could just prevented that from happening :)
[04:12] <cfhowlett> pegamoose, so your - keyboard switch didn't work.  try ctrl - wifi switch or alt-wifi switch.  After 4 years with my laptop, I JUST discovered that I didn't need to reboot to windows to enable.  I just had to add ALT to F2 and that fixed it!
[04:12] <badomun2> Weather for boise, id: N/A / N/AF (N/AC) - N/A / None
[04:13] <cfhowlett> badomun, do you have an ubuntu support question?
[04:13] <badomun2> sorry
 tks  I'll try that
[04:14] <bambanx> i am on windows again ::(   i dont wanna fix my windows
[04:15] <bambanx> what linux guy scan recommend me for dual boot on easy way?
[04:15] <cfhowlett> bambanx, right.  did you read the dual boot tutorial?
[04:15] <cfhowlett> !dualboot|bambanx,
[04:16] <bambanx> my english suck
[04:17] <bambanx> but i am trying
[04:17] <cfhowlett> bambanx, get the tutorial.  read.  read again.  follow the steps.
[04:20] <Paulus68_1> bambanx: on your windows 7 create a new partition of half the size of the disk create it and not need to format that partition then go back into the live cd and check under gparted if you have 2 drives there
[04:21] <linu> hooflung128,  it shows me a window in that the message is Oracle VM VirtualBox Extension Pack need to install .
[04:21] <acidrainjr> hi
[04:22] <kaos7> yo
[04:22] <acidrainjr> what is this place really for
[04:22] <kaos7> ?? been here 5 min
[04:22] <m0ngrel> sex
[04:22] <Dr_Willis> !ubuntu | acidrainjr
[04:23] <kaos7> newish to ubuntu hoping to learn something
[04:24] <Paulus68_1> !offtopic |mOngrel
[04:24] <comodo_dragon> !offtopic | <m0ngrel>
 #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!
[04:24] <comodo_dragon> :D
[04:25] <acidrainjr>  do we do here
[04:25] <acidrainjr> so what do we do here
[04:26] <Dr_Willis> acidrainjr:  this is ubuntu support.
[04:27] <acidrainjr> okay do you know how in install utorrent i cant figure out how to do it
[04:27] <Dr_Willis> acidrainjr:  i belive the utorrent site has ubuntu .deb packages
[04:27] <acidrainjr> i dilike using transmission
[04:27] <Dr_Willis> theres dozens of other torrent clients in the repios
[04:27] <Dr_Willis> repos.
[04:27] <Dr_Willis> utorrent  on ubuntu has no GUI. its a web interface only last i tried it.
[04:27] <Dr_Willis> the windows version of utorrent i do belive works in wine.
[04:27] <acidrainjr> no u torrent does not have the .deb packages
[04:28] <kaos7> the software center has a lot of torrent choices
[04:28] <Hathadar> Sometimes when I CTRL+ALT+t my screen goes funky. http://i1074.photobucket.com/albums/w403/Hathadar/screen_problem.png  This is a guest machine on virtualbox.  I need to leave fullscreen and re-enter it to fix the problem.  Why is this happening?
[04:28] <Dr_Willis> http://askubuntu.com/questions/104094/how-to-install-utorrent-step-by-step
[04:32] <nitk> how to solve this error while installing some packages in ubntu ..Error:"The following packages have unmet dependencies:"
[04:35] <cfhowlett> nitk, update, upgrade and dist-upgrade are the steps I follow.  rarely see the "unmet dependencies" error.
[04:36] <linu> hooflung128 i have plugin my hp pendrive but it is not showed in settings->USB, even i installed oracle extensions pack
[04:36] <Dr_Willis> sudo apt-get update, sudo apt-get upgrade
[04:36] <Dr_Willis> :) dist-upgrade if you want a more intensive upgrade
[04:36] <cfhowlett> linu, usb pass through on virtualbox or NO usb will be seen
[04:37] <Dr_Willis> i Recall you have to configure vbox befor you boot the virtual os to access usb devices..  I also seem to recall the vbox manual haveing a chapter on this
[04:37] <linu> cfhowlett i could not find pass through options in virtulbox settings,
[04:38] <cfhowlett> linu, look in the virtual machine settings for the VM you're working with.
[04:45] <nitk> anyone is there
[04:45] <Dr_Willis> 1000+ people here nitk
[04:45] <kuugo> nitk: no one here lol
[04:46] <nitk> how to fix the error "The following packages have unmet dependencies:"
[04:46] <kuugo> sudo apt-get install -f
[04:46] <Sturmir> I've a rather odd issue. I'm trying to install Ubuntu onto an IBM R51 Thinkpad, and it states that the CPU (i1686) isn't supported, and i've double checked to make sure I grabbed the right Iso to no avail. Initial research into the subject doesn't seem to say much.
[04:47] <Sturmir> PAE isn't supported by my CPU (as one possible reason why) and wondering if there is a work around
[04:47] <Dr_Willis> Sturmir:  use an older ubuntu, there were some ubuntu spinoffs i recall that came with non-pae kernels. but i dont recall their names.
[04:48] <Dr_Willis> or use a differnt distro. ;(
[04:48] <Sturmir> Darn, I love Ubuntu too much though :(
[04:48] <Dr_Willis> How old is this machine?
[04:48] <Sturmir> 2004?
[04:48] <mdkwlan> An older version might have support for it.
[04:48] <Sturmir> at least, that's the last time the bios was flashed.
[04:48] <Sturmir> I tried 10.10
[04:48] <Sturmir> and newer
[04:48] <mdkwlan> Oh boy.
[04:48] <kuugo> still the same?
[04:48] <Dr_Willis> 9 yrs old.
[04:48] <Sturmir> Ye.
[04:49] <cfhowlett> Sturmir, xubuntu and lubuntu are optimized for older/low spec machines
[04:49] <mdkwlan> There might be a spin of ubuntu that supports it still.
[04:49] <Dr_Willis> so you boot the install cd and it says you need pae?
[04:49] <Dr_Willis> Ive seen some guides/info on getting a non-pae kernel repo. but never needed them ;)
[04:50] <comodo_dragon> i want to download PDFs of how to use ubuntu
[04:50] <Sturmir> No, I boot the USB (Tried the CD first, still same result) and it simply states that the kernel is x86_64 and the cpu detected is i1686.
[04:50] <comodo_dragon> and administer it
[04:50] <cfhowlett> !manual|comodo_dragon,
[04:50] <mdkwlan> Just read the man pages for apt
[04:51] <comodo_dragon> thans cfhowlett
[04:51] <mdkwlan> Dr_Willis, how much do you know about grub 2.xx?
[04:51] <Dr_Willis> mdkwlan:  i use it.. ive read the docs and guides. ;)
[04:52] <mdkwlan> Sweet. You're the perfect person then.
[04:52] <Dr_Willis> your question has yet to be actually asked. ;P
[04:52] <mdkwlan> Alright how would I go about editing the grub.cfg to make it so that the menu list will not show unless you hold right shift like in ubuntu
[04:52] <mdkwlan> Yea typing and talking not a strong suit of mine lol.
[04:52] <TiZ> The clickpad on my Lenovo Y480, at least for as long as it will actually still be mine, is impossible to click and drag on. This is only one annoyance that will lead to me eventually selling it (since the retailer doesn't seem interested in taking a return). I need the ability to click and drag on this thing. I enabled the dead zone through AreaBottomEdge, so now I have a discrete left/middle/right click area, but now when I click and drag,
[04:52] <TiZ> the finger I try to drag with gets ignored. What do I do about this?
[04:53] <Dr_Willis> mdkwlan:  the grub2 docs mention it.. for ubuntu its a setting in /etc/default/grub  not sure how that applies to other disrtos
[04:53] <zykotick9> mdkwlan: /etc/default/grub set time to 0 i believe
[04:53] <Dr_Willis> You are using ubuntu?
[04:53] <mdkwlan> Yea as a host
[04:53] <kuugo> i got buffer I/O swap with 3.8 kernel
[04:53] <kuugo> buffer I/O error
[04:53] <mdkwlan> I'm thinking more so about Arch but grub still pertains to ubuntu so yeah.... Don't yell at me lol.
[04:55] <mdkwlan> I'd ask the Arch guys but Arch is very RTFM. Ubuntu guys are a lot more friendly. :)
[04:55] <Dr_Willis> I imagine the grub wiki has info on the topic also.
[04:55] <Dr_Willis> they spend most of their time working on their wiki. :)
[04:55] <mdkwlan> Very true
[04:55] <Dr_Willis> of course it could be the grub Config system on ubuntu is radically differnt also.
[04:55] <Dr_Willis> arch may not even have a /etc/default/grub
[04:56] <mdkwlan> it does
[04:56] <mdkwlan> I have an arch box pulled up
[04:56] <kuugo> you need to add os-prober package to detect other OS in Arch
[04:57] <mdkwlan> It's only a single boot in a VM
[04:57] <kuugo> lol at first only arch showing up when i installed it
[04:57] <mdkwlan> Yeah.
[04:57] <kuugo> and then got kernel panic in 3.10 Arch lol
[04:57] <mdkwlan> Lovely.
[04:58] <Dr_Willis> tempted to try arch on my raspberry pi.. but it tool  the pi like 4 hrs to compile weechat. ;)
[04:58] <mdkwlan> Makes me wonder. Is ubuntu going to move to systemd?
[04:58] <mdkwlan> I haven't kept up with 13.10 so I'm not sure if it's there already
[04:58] <Dr_Willis> ive seen some 'systemd'  terms in 13.10 - but not sure if its in there or not. :) since i dont know about systemd
[04:58] <mdkwlan> It's easy :)
[04:59] <Dr_Willis> mount command on 13.10 here seems to so a 'systemd on /sys/fs/cgroup/systemd .......'
[04:59] <Dr_Willis> no idea wht that means
[04:59] <Dr_Willis> ;)
[05:00] <Dr_Willis> I imagine the ubuntu focus of the devs and manpower is going to be on the ubuntu-touch stuff for the next few releases.. so i dont think they will be doing radical changes  that will suck manpower away from that project
[05:00] <mdkwlan> Yea true
[05:00] <kuugo> Yea
[05:00] <mdkwlan> The ubuntu phone will be interesting
[05:00] <Dr_Willis> i will belive it when i see it come out. ;)
[05:01] <mdkwlan> Idk i'm half tempted to download 13.10 and see what's in it
[05:01] <Ownix> I install tightvncserver and I cant access it through my windows box with tight vnc viewer
[05:01] <Dr_Willis> and when it gets fed-ex'ed to my door and i open the box...
[05:01] <Ownix> am I missing something in the firewall? Its a fresh ubuntu install
[05:01] <kuugo> 17 Oct will be released 1.0 Ubuntu Phone right?
[05:01] <Dr_Willis> Ownix:  theres no firewall rules by default.
[05:01] <wilee-nilee> Dr_Willis, I have a questiot on wi-fi direct I have my nexus 7 connected to my new samsung smart tv, what can I do now, lol
[05:01] <Dr_Willis> Ownix:  are you on a local network> or over the internet?
[05:02] <Dr_Willis> wilee-nilee:  i think you can send videos to it.  but ive never really used wifi direct. I got a lan. ;)
[05:02] <Ownix> Dr_Willis: same network and same subnet
[05:02] <mdkwlan> the vnc port forwarded?
[05:02] <Dr_Willis> wilee-nilee:  use a upnp program like allshare, or others to send a video to the tv.
[05:02] <Dr_Willis> Ownix:  you got windows firewall on or off>? turn it off as a test.
[05:02] <Ownix> mdkwlan: is that needed when they are on the same network
[05:02] <mdkwlan> MHm
[05:02] <Dr_Willis> Ownix:  and you DID start the vncserver on the linux box?
[05:03] <mdkwlan> pidof vnc and tab to auto fill
[05:03] <wilee-nilee> Dr_Willis, I have a usb to hdmi converter with the laptop and was able to get minidlna to work sort of, seems like video will work with the nexus, just not sure where to look on the device, I will ask on #android
[05:03] <Dr_Willis> wilee-nilee:  i an get on my phone and have a 'play this video on device ..... and it shows the tv and other devices here
[05:03] <Ownix> Dr_Willis: I think its started: http://pastie.org/private/a57q6rpu9gdusbzb4pc9g
[05:03] <Ownix> Im not sure though
[05:04] <Dr_Willis> Ownix:  look in your .vnc/* log files
[05:04] <Dr_Willis> wilee-nilee:  also on a pc with xbmc i recall being able to send videos to any xbmc box if you got it configured. :)
[05:05] <Ownix> Dr_Willis: http://pastie.org/private/liktrjqjflzcfofcwemow
[05:05] <Ownix> Dr_Willis: do line 12 and 13 mean it crashed?
[05:06] <wilee-nilee> Dr_Willis, thanks that's some info to work on.
[05:06] <Dr_Willis> UpnpPlay is what i use a lot on my android wilee-nilee
[05:06] <mdkwlan> Well I googled it and this was the solution
[05:06] <mdkwlan> I've just realised the simple fix:
[05:06] <mdkwlan> When I ran the VNC Viewer on Windows, and specified the RPi IP address, I didn't realise you have to put the session ID on the end (either the :1 or the :2).
[05:06] <mdkwlan> Simple really.
[05:07] <mdkwlan> Copy pasta
[05:07] <Dr_Willis> Ownix:  no idea. You cou.d ust edit your startcvnc stuff and comment those commands out.. and You DO realise you have a 2nd vnc session going? note the port is 5902 - that tells me you got another vnc session running
[05:07] <Dr_Willis> 5902 -> :2
[05:07] <mdkwlan> ^
[05:07] <Dr_Willis> if you had 5 sessions going it would be 5905
[05:08] <Dr_Willis> its eays to accidently start several vnc sessions by mistake ;)
[05:08] <Dr_Willis> vncserver --kill :1  (i think is the command)
[05:08] <Dr_Willis> to kill one
[05:08] <mdkwlan> or find the pid of it and kill it
[05:09]  * Dr_Willis is on a Raspbery Pi right now. ;)
[05:09] <mdkwlan> Oh god. He has three running if that's right
[05:09] <mdkwlan> 5900 is the default
[05:09] <Dr_Willis> actually i THINK 5900 is reserved if you have the local desktop shared
[05:10] <Dr_Willis> ps ax | grep vnc    will show you perhaps
[05:10] <mdkwlan> Oh?
[05:10] <Ownix> Dr_Willis: Im pretty sure 5902 is default because my fresh windows tightvncviewer install shows 5902 as default. also I did chmod -x .vnc/xstartup and now VNC viewer connects but I get this: http://i.imgur.com/tLjNb4b.png
[05:11] <Dr_Willis> i always setup a minimal window manager like jwm for my vnc sessions, jwm and a terminal window - is about all i start
[05:12] <mdkwlan> That's an interesting way of doing it
[05:12] <Dr_Willis> vnc can be way to laggy with much more :)
[05:12] <mdkwlan> Yep
[05:13] <comodo_dragon> VPN
[05:13] <Dr_Willis> vncserver here just stared on 5901
[05:13] <Dr_Willis> started
[05:13] <Ownix> JWM seems incredibly minimal I like it
[05:13] <Ownix> I wonder how hard it would be to remove Cinnimon and install JWM
[05:14] <Dr_Willis> Ownix:  why bother removeing..
[05:14] <Dr_Willis> install jwm and select it at the login screen
[05:15] <Dr_Willis> jwm is lacking in some areas that people may want. :) like a dynamic menu generated  on the fly
[05:15] <kingbeowolf> when does 13.10 come out?
[05:15] <Dr_Willis> and even the most basic of setting front ends
[05:15] <kuugo> first heard about jwm :D
[05:15] <Dr_Willis> !schedule
[05:15] <kuugo> i use subtle wm right now
[05:15] <kingbeowolf> i heard october
[05:16] <cfhowlett> !isitiout
[05:16] <mdkwlan> AwesomeWM is what I use but I mean to each their own.
[05:16] <kuugo> Awesome is nice
[05:16] <Dr_Willis> kingbeowolf:  the version # is the release date. year/month
[05:16] <mdkwlan> Yea im enjoying it
[05:16] <Dr_Willis> so yes.. it is october.. sometime. ;)
[05:17] <kingbeowolf> Dr_Willis: wow thanks
[05:17] <xmetal> i am curious about (if there is a new one) how Cinn will be
[05:17] <kingbeowolf> Dr_Willis: that makes so much more sense now
[05:17] <kuugo> dwm and subtle crashed in ubuntu 12.04 anyway
[05:17] <xmetal> oops wrong channel and wrong distro ... lol i forgot
[05:17] <kuugo> i have to compile it on my own for 11
[05:17] <kuugo> subtle still 10 in ubuntu repos
[05:17] <kingbeowolf> whats the command to run a dist upgrade ?  is it sudo upgrade-manager -d ?
[05:17] <Dr_Willis> xmetal:  :) i bet the stuff in gnome 3.10 will put a hurt on cinniamon and other gnome-2ish de's
[05:17] <mdkwlan> sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[05:18] <Dr_Willis> kingbeowolf:  a dist-upgrade is differnt from a 'upgrade to the next release'
[05:18] <Tecan> #ubuntu
[05:18] <kingbeowolf> oh really?
[05:18] <Tecan> oops
[05:18] <Dr_Willis> kingbeowolf:  VERY VERY much so in ubuntu
[05:18] <xmetal> i had cinn (still do honestly) running fine in my Mate 14 install ... Mate 15 (even in "Cinn safe mode") it lags
[05:18] <xmetal> (on the same PC)
[05:19] <xmetal> no big deal i mean :) so many DE's to choice from
[05:19] <mdkwlan> yea
[05:19] <mdkwlan> Too many some times
[05:19] <Tecan> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
[05:19] <keanehsiao> would like to ask, I use monit and now want to monitor multiple instance with same name, ex importer1, importer2… importer100   and I don't know how to config it, though I found a discussion here : http://web.archiveorange.com/archive/v/kGf1yLlrdcYgdNBiGPMI   but still don't get it… any one can help on? thanks.
[05:19] <xmetal> i have found LDXE lacking sometimes, but I still like it
[05:19] <xmetal> same with some of the others
[05:20] <Ownix> I installed JWM through aptitude, then I restarted and now my computer wont progress past the DELL bios boot logo
[05:20] <DeepBlue> i hane no system sound
[05:20] <xmetal> Unity ... is growing on me
[05:20] <Ownix> what the heck
[05:20] <Dr_Willis> everything is lacking in some way :)
[05:20] <blue_> how safe is ubuntu 13.04 for secure onlinr banking?
[05:20] <mdkwlan> xmeal don't give in!
[05:20] <kuugo> yep, everything got their own pros and cons
[05:20] <xmetal> hated it at first ... now its "not that bad"
[05:20] <Dr_Willis> if somthing has 'eveyrthing' then everyone says its bloated. ;P
[05:20] <mdkwlan> Debends blue_
[05:20] <xmetal> true @ Dr_Willis
[05:20] <kingbeowolf> Dr_Willis: which should i do?
[05:20] <mdkwlan> Dr_Willis, aka KDE cough
[05:20] <blue_> mdkwlan: how it depends
[05:20] <cfhowlett> blue_, most compromises are located between the keyboard and the display.
[05:21] <Dr_Willis> kingbeowolf:  i dont know what you are doing.
[05:21] <mdkwlan> Depends more so on how big of a tin hat do you want to wear?
[05:21] <kingbeowolf> Dr_Willis: just want try 13.10
[05:21] <xmetal> yes PEBKAC
[05:21] <Dr_Willis> kingbeowolf:  'try' it - get a live cd.
[05:21]  * xmetal whistles innocently
[05:21] <Dr_Willis> kingbeowolf:  upgrade to it.. thats a differnt story. ;)
[05:21] <Dr_Willis> !upgrade
[05:21] <Ownix> pulled power, waited ten seconds plugged it back in and now its booting again.  Not sure what the hell that was all about
[05:22] <Dr_Willis> Ownix:  it got tired. ;)
[05:22] <kuugo> 17 Oct, 13.10 will be released, along with ubuntu phone 1.0
[05:22] <mdkwlan> Like you can take as many steps as you want to prevent it blue_ but at the end of the day it really doesn't matter
[05:22] <kingbeowolf> i would use ubuntu phone but i have CDMA
[05:22] <keanehsiao> would like to ask, I use monit and now want to monitor multiple instance with same name, ex importer1, importer2… importer100   and I don't know how to config it, though I found a discussion here : http://web.archiveorange.com/archive/v/kGf1yLlrdcYgdNBiGPMI   but still don't get it… any one can help on? thanks.
[05:22] <Dr_Willis> I will belive it when i see it. :) i dont see any reason for a delay. but It HAS happened in the past i recall.
[05:22] <xmetal> i was almost going to try Ubuntu over (a clean install) of Mint 14 but decided against it atm ... esp when i saw i got Ubuntu 12.04 by mistake (meant to get 13.04)
[05:22] <xmetal> silly me
[05:23] <blue_> i want steps that matter mdkwlan
[05:23] <cfhowlett> xmetal, Long Term Support is rarely a mistake IMO
[05:23] <xmetal> may try Ubuntu against with 14.04 (next LTS release if i am not mistaken)
[05:23] <DeepBlue> how 2 activate system sound?
[05:23] <mdkwlan> blue_ if you want to put on a tin hat this would be a good start
[05:23] <mdkwlan> https://fixubuntu.com/
[05:23] <mdkwlan> Ok get a VPS then use noscript that will work with the site so that you can login
[05:23] <kingbeowolf> in the "Software & Updates" app in the Settings panel.  In the "Updates" tab it says Pre-released updates (raring-proposed) what is that?
[05:24] <mdkwlan> I mean it moreso depends on the site than the os itself
[05:24] <blue_> ok
[05:25] <mdkwlan> What encryption is the site using? Are they are trusted bank etc. Preventing you from getting infected one thing relying on the bank to be secure is another.
[05:25] <kieppie1> ?hibernation
[05:25] <kieppie1> !hibernation
[05:26] <kieppie1> hi
[05:26] <kieppie1> running 13.04
[05:26] <kieppie1> new laptop
[05:26] <mdkwlan> Welcome to the ubuntu club?
[05:27] <blue_> RC4, 128 bit keys'
[05:27] <mdkwlan> Not bad.
[05:27] <kieppie1> how do I enable hibernation? some of the guides I followed for my previous laptop did not work, or were extremely unstable
[05:27] <john___> help getting GRUB to see MINT?
[05:27] <mdkwlan> kieppie1, http://askubuntu.com/questions/317519/hibernate-no-longer-works
[05:27] <Ownix> Dr_Willis:  this is what im getting with JWM http://i.imgur.com/4rxhZ15.png
[05:27] <xmetal> thats a question?
[05:28] <mdkwlan> Oh I've gotten that before
[05:28] <blue_> RC4, 128 bit keys' mdkwlan
[05:28] <Ownix> mdkwlan: Is there something in JWM or TightVNCServer I need to change?
[05:28] <kieppie1> `sudo pm-hibernate` works, but it's not shoing up in the power options/menu
[05:29] <mdkwlan> Yea that's a good. I'd moreso assume its vnc
[05:29] <mdkwlan> I don't use Windows anymore so I'm not sure
[05:29] <mdkwlan> rdesktop is what I use now.
[05:29] <kieppie1> mdkwlan: the CLI works - it's the binding that seems problematic
[05:29] <Ownix> whats that?
[05:30] <mdkwlan> Oh wow. That's really weird kieppie1
[05:30] <mdkwlan> rdesktop is remotedesktop
[05:30] <Ownix> what do I use for a client?
[05:30] <mdkwlan> It's for linux only I think
[05:31] <Ownix> so rdesktop is a remote desktop client for linux machines to connect to windows machines?
[05:31] <kieppie1> rebooting - brb
[05:31] <mdkwlan> or to others yea
[05:31] <Ownix> Or rdesktop is a server that windows remote desktop can connect to?
[05:31] <mdkwlan> linux to windows or linux to linux
[05:31] <Ownix> what about windows to linux?
[05:31] <mdkwlan> It will use vnc or rdp
[05:32] <mdkwlan> Nope because there isnt a windows version
[05:32] <mdkwlan> I want to say that's a framebuffer problem
[05:32] <blue_> xrdp for windows to linux
[05:33] <blue_> install xrdp in linux, then access from windows using rdp
[05:33] <mdkwlan>  Set the UpdateMethod parameter (in VNC Server options, Expert tab) from 2, to 1. If this doesn't work, try setting it to 0.
[05:33] <mdkwlan> for vnc
[05:33] <mdkwlan> if its a framebuffer problem that will fix it
[05:34] <Ownix> xrdp is neat. Same problem though, but for some reason it asked me for a login and a session, and then it started cinnimon
[05:34] <mdkwlan> That's cool that it worked kinda
[05:34] <mdkwlan> I assume cinnimon is your default DE?
[05:35] <mdkwlan> Ownix, is your linux box using proprietary graphics drivers by chance?
[05:35] <Ownix> I think so. It has an old DVI graphics card in the AGP port
[05:35] <mdkwlan> Omg agp
[05:36] <Ownix> let me verify that
[05:37] <mdkwlan> I found something taking about that being an issue but it was for suse and not ubuntu. Might be related but kinda doubting it to be fair.
[05:40] <blue_> iam unable to install ubuntu on 64 core workstation
[05:40] <blue_> ubuntu 12.04
[05:40] <gabo> dhusfvfoisd
[05:40] <gabo> hols
[05:40] <mdkwlan> Is a uefi machine?
[05:40] <david_L-1977> hello fellas
[05:40] <Guest22268> hello
[05:40] <blue_> yes
[05:40] <mdkwlan> Hello.
[05:40] <Guest22268> an espequin spanish
[05:41] <blue_> but nor does it work in legay mode
[05:41] <cfhowlett> !es|Guest22268,
[05:41] <david_L-1977> this channel's a mess... anyone know of a good english # where i might get some help setting up samba shares?
[05:41] <blue_> however ubuntu 11.10 doesget installed
[05:41] <mdkwlan> 13.04 will install on uefi where 12.04 doesnt have it
[05:41] <cfhowlett> !samba|david_L-1977,
[05:42] <blue_> i tried 13.04 also
[05:42] <xmetal> !uefi
[05:42] <Guest22268> Speak Spanish
[05:43] <cfhowlett> !es|Guest22268, this is an english channel.
[05:43] <mdkwlan> Uefi is the alternative to Bios
[05:43] <Guest22268> hello Speak Spanis
[05:43] <Romance> alternative to secure boot so no computer can do multi boot?
[05:44] <mdkwlan> Secure boot can be disabled on most computers
[05:44] <jonrafkind> I upgraded some package the other day and now notify-osd doesn't work anymore. 'notify-send test' does nothing. i see dbus sending the message to notify-osd and notify-osd will print some warning stuff when it receives the message, but no popup shows up. this worked a week ago..
[05:44] <blue_> how to send notify-send messages from terminal to gui
[05:45] <blue_> i was looking for a way to notify gui users via notifications
[05:46] <jonrafkind> blue_, supposedly notify-send will do that
[05:46] <blue_> it gives some unable to open display erro
[05:46] <jonrafkind> are you running it as root?
[05:46] <blue_> when given from a terminal
[05:46] <blue_> yes
[05:46] <jonrafkind> try running it as a normal user
[05:47] <blue_> tried both
[05:47] <jonrafkind> dunno
[05:47] <panl> 第三
[05:47] <blue_> i have  an ubuntu system where in users login remotely graphically
[05:47] <cfhowlett> !cn|panl,
[05:48] <blue_> i login to that system via putty session and try to send the notifications
[05:48] <panl>  /join
[05:48] <panl> #ubuntu-cn
[05:48] <tripelb> help. I lost my mouse (pointer). what can I di?  12.04 gnoneclassic
[05:48] <jonrafkind> blue_, is notify-osd already running? I guess notify-send itself should not require a DISPLAY as it just sends a message over dbus
[05:49] <blue_> if you login physically in gui and send notification it is sent to all users
[05:49] <blue_> i want to send from remote ly via rerminal
[05:49] <blue_> yes it is running
[05:50] <tripelb> help. I lost my mouse (pointer). what can I DO?  12.04 gnoMe-classic
[05:50] <blue_> jonrafkind: i want the other users to display the it as a notification, not in their terminals
[05:51] <cfhowlett> !patience|tripelb,
[05:51] <blue_> tripelb : replace the mouse and check
[05:53] <tripelb> blue_ replace it? you mean unplug it and plug it back in? AND i disnt repat it. i had to correct ot drom What do I download to What do I do.
[05:54] <tripelb> cfhowlett: please see explaination to blue_ above. Apologies but repeat was needed because of error. (i respect the riles bit as it stood it was a dumb question)
[05:54] <cfhowlett> tripelb, no problem.  I wish I could help.
[05:55] <tripelb> i respect the RUles bUT
[05:55] <tripelb> typos run deep in this dwe
[05:55] <tripelb> phone
[05:57] <jony_easyrider> when I try to mount a network share which is specified in fstab, it gives me the following error: mount error(13): Permission denied
[05:58] <tripelb> cfhowlett: no mouse so what keystrokes will ahut me down nicely so I dont have to power off?
[05:58] <cfhowlett> runlevel?
[05:59] <cfhowlett> init 15 is the shutdown IIRC
[05:59] <zykotick9> jony_easyrider: network share = samba or nfs?
[05:59] <tripelb> cfhowlett: if you said "runlevwl" to me I do not understand
[05:59] <blue_> tripleb: For those with AMD/ATI cards, download and install the latest AMD Catalyst driver. The installer was all covered in black bars for me so I used the screenshots here: http://www.upubuntu.com/2011/12/how-to-install-amd-catalyst-1112-linux.html as a guide.
[05:59] <blue_> Once the installer finishes, run
[05:59] <blue_> sudo aticonfig --initial -f
[05:59] <blue_> and reboot. In my case, with the drivers and a xorg.conf file, I can finally see a cursor.
[05:59] <FloodBot1> blue_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:00] <blue_> hi
[06:00] <tripelb> blue_ that last you dirwcted to me
[06:00] <jony_easyrider> zykotick9, it's a windows 7 share
[06:00] <zykotick9> jony_easyrider: ummm.  well good luck.
[06:01] <jony_easyrider> zykotick9, it worked PERFECTLY until I reinstalled Ubuntu
[06:01] <tripelb> blue_ that last you dirwcted to me ?  i think it was for someone elae. i juat want to know how to nocwly rwcover from a no-nouse aotuation
[06:02] <jony_easyrider> when I try to mount a network share which is specified in fstab, it gives me the following error: mount error(13): Permission denied - PLEASE HELP!
[06:02] <blue_> please repeat/ lot of typos
[06:03] <blue_> what are these floodbots?
[06:04] <blue_> i am pretty new in xchat
[06:04] <tozen> blue_: robots
[06:05] <blue_> what are these robots doing here?
[06:05] <blue_> i want only humans
[06:06] <blue_> these robots are not giving me any solutions
[06:07] <blue_> is there a way to provide desktop notifications to ubuntu users from remote termials
[06:07] <buu> jony_easyrider: Did you ever get the manual mount working?
[06:07] <blue_> just like a bradcast message
[06:09] <jony_easyrider> yes, and the data in fstab is OK, because I copy/pasted those lines from the old fstab
[06:10] <jony_easyrider> buu, yes, and the data in fstab is OK, because I copy/pasted those lines from the old fstab
[06:12] <buu> jony_easyrider: So running sudo mount -t cifs...; works and gets you the mountpoint and the data, but sudo mount -a gives you an error? What does dmesg say after you run sudo mount -a?
[06:13] <s2013> anyone knows how to transfer files from your main comp to ubuntu on vm?
[06:13] <gmilf> So I am trying to get audio out of my HDMI connection between my tv (insignia) and my computer (Ubuntu 13.04). I am getting video perfectly (as that's how I'm viewing this IRC) but I have no sound! I have gone through every troubleshooting tutorial on the first two pages of google as well as trying to alter my TV's settings. If anyone knows how to help that would be awesome
[06:13] <s2013> or if its even possible
[06:15] <buu> s2013: Is the VM on the same machine?
[06:16] <buu> s2013: What is the host os?
[06:17] <Dr_Willis> gmilf:  all i had to do on one pc was twiddle with the pavucontrol  tool. but its possible your hdmi sound out is not supported if you have tried  a lot of guides.
[06:17] <s2013> windows, same machine
[06:17] <s2013> windows 7
[06:18] <Dr_Willis> s2013:  same as you would 2 'real' pcs on the same lan. via samba, scp, ssh, nfs, or other networking methods.
[06:18] <Dr_Willis> s2013:  virtualbox has its own special vbox share you can setup also
[06:19] <gmilf> pavucontrol?
[06:19] <s2013> oh ok. thanks
[06:19] <Dr_Willis> gmilf:  i think thats the name . pulse audio voulme control
[06:19] <gmilf> it ran from terminal
[06:19] <Dr_Willis> !find pavucontrol
[06:19] <gmilf> don't know what to alter
[06:19] <Dr_Willis> !info pavucontrol
[06:20] <Dr_Willis> it has a lot of menus and settings.. i cant really tell what your setup is of guide you through it. I just had to select one of the hdmi outputs - i had like 3 on my ystem for some reason i recall
[06:20] <Dr_Willis> but that was 2 releases ago. it works by defaunt these days
[06:20] <gmilf> I have no hdmi outputs
[06:20] <Dr_Willis> im suprised the guides you found dident mention it.
[06:21] <gmilf> I think they did, just really similar to system settings -> sound settings
[06:21] <gmilf> no difference sound outputs
[06:21] <Dr_Willis> sounds like the hdmi part of your sound system is not supported/seen then
[06:22] <gmilf> video is running fine
[06:22] <gmilf> and yeah that seems to be the problem
[06:22] <Dr_Willis> that dosent mean the audio is obviously
[06:22] <gmilf> I have a linux mint livecd somewhere
[06:22] <Dr_Willis> the sound card  is a little chip on the video card.
[06:22] <gmilf> thinking about trying to use it if it's not too scratched up
[06:22] <gmilf> oic
[06:22] <Dr_Willis> id test out ubuntu 13.10 also
[06:23] <gmilf> i have the dumbs
[06:23] <gmilf> 13.10? would i be able to upgrade w/o live cd (for linux mint i had to use dvd [I have neither dvd, nor cd])\
[06:24] <gmilf> :(
[06:25] <gmilf> ???
[06:25] <Dr_Willis> You dont want to mix up differnt disrtos that way
[06:25] <Dr_Willis> and you can make a bootable install USB from the iso file if you wanted to install 13.10
[06:26] <Dr_Willis> or just use the bootable usb as a test  to see if sound works
[06:26] <gmilf> how would the bootup menu read the iso file correctly?
[06:26] <Dr_Willis> it dosent by default. ;)
[06:26] <Dr_Willis> You can edit your grub2 configs to boot an ISO file.
[06:26] <gmilf> anything complicated?
[06:26] <Dr_Willis> tons of grub2 docs on doing that. easier to make a live usb
[06:27] <gmilf> ok, well I might try to use linuxmint livecd just because i have that on hand. if that fails that i might wait until tomorrow so I can burn a diff livecd to dvd. Do you know if ubuntu is light enough to use just a basic cd?
[06:27] <Dr_Willis> ubuntu dosnt fit on a cd.
[06:27] <gmilf> dvd it would be then...
[06:28] <Dr_Willis> I alwyas use USB's
[06:28] <pleanbean> Hey guys, I'm trying to make a new partition table on my drive with the Ubuntu installer, but its not letting me make a new partition table because its in use by a LVM volume
[06:29] <gmilf> well aren't you fancy! thanks for the help, if linuxmint fails me, then I will start looking into usb s as livecds
[06:29] <gmilf> nn
[06:30] <Dr_Willis> fancy? I imagine the majority of installs are done from USB these days
[06:32] <pleanbean> What can I do?
[06:32] <comodo_dragon> !lvm
[06:34] <Dr_Willis> http://askubuntu.com/questions/228136/how-to-remove-all-lvs-vgs-and-partitions-on-all-drives-before-installing-12-04
[06:34] <swaagie> so I'd fancy a 13.10 update since graphics are working out of the box for my laptop, however I just can
[06:34] <Dr_Willis> perhaos
[06:34] <jony_easyrider> buu, pls help me how to mount manually this share specified in fstab: //192.168.10.8/Documentation_Server /mnt/docsrv01_Documentation_Server cifs noauto,iocharset=utf8,uid=jony,gid=users,credentials=/root/.cifscredentials,file_mode=0775,dir_mode=0775 0 0
[06:34] <swaagie> cant* get it installed on my gpt partitioned raid 0/efi boot, the installer keeps failing with error ??? ???
[06:35] <buu> jony_easyrider: I told you yesterday
[06:36] <jony_easyrider> buu, please help me, I'm speaking from my work computer, probably missed it
[06:37] <user_> hey so my livecd was 64 bit and my CPU is 32  bit, but I found out my bootup is already set to read usb livecds
[06:37] <Dr_Willis> sudo mount -t cifs  //192.168.x.x/XXX  /mnt/XXX -o alltheoptionshere
[06:37] <buu> jony_easyrider: run this: sudo mount -t cifs //192.168.10.8/Documentation_Server /mnt/docsrv01_Documentation_Server -o noauto -o credentials=/root/.cifscredentials
[06:37] <user_> do i need to install it on a thumb drive, or will my backup drive work well enough?
[06:37] <buu> jony_easyrider: What does it output?
[06:37] <Ben64> jony_easyrider: why not "sudo mount -a"
[06:37] <Dr_Willis> user_:  you dont run a 64bit OS/cd on a 32bit cpu.
[06:38] <user_> yeah i know
[06:38] <user_> i just learned that
[06:38] <jony_easyrider> buu, mount error(13): Permission denied
[06:38] <jony_easyrider> Refer to the mount.cifs(8) manual page (e.g. man mount.cifs)
[06:38] <user_> so i need to make new livecd
[06:38] <jony_easyrider> buu, same error
[06:38] <Dr_Willis> jony_easyrider:  whats the exact command you are using?
[06:39] <user_> I'm just wondering if it's possible to use my backup external harddrive as a livecd, by putting to iso file on there, wouldn't the rest of the files make it so it doesn't recognize the .iso right away?
[06:39] <pleanbean> comodo_dragon, can you walk me through this?
[06:39] <buu> jony_easyrider: what does sudo ls -l /root/.cifscredentials; return?
[06:39] <jony_easyrider> Dr_Willis, sudo mount /mnt/docsrv01_Documentation_Server
[06:39] <Dr_Willis> user_:  you dont just copy an iso file to a drive. you have to use special tools to make the drive bootable.
[06:39] <comodo_dragon> please read the documentation
[06:39] <jony_easyrider> buu, -r-------- 1 root root 37 Oct  2 08:31 /root/.cifscredentials
[06:39] <user_> darn, well back to researching/learning i guess
[06:39] <user_> thnx
[06:40] <buu> jony_easyrider: Can you paste the last 10 lines of dmesg to a paste site?
[06:40] <Venoryk> Hey guys.. having a bit of an issue getting a bash script to behave as desired. Anybody able to assist?
[06:41] <Dr_Willis> give us details and see who knows wht.
[06:42] <Venoryk> I'm attempting to make a Post-Install script for Ubuntu 13.04. Part of what I want the script to do is install aria2c and apt-fast then create ~/.bash_aliases linking wget=aria2c apt-get=apt-fast.
[06:42] <jony_easyrider> buu, http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/6208136/
[06:43] <Venoryk> I'm wanting it to check if tehre is already ~/.bash_aliases and if so are those aliases listed. If not, add the missing aliases
[06:44] <Venoryk> However, when I run grep -q "alias wget='aria2c'" 'apt-get='apt-fast'" else printf ..... if any of the aliases are listed it just stops there and echos aliases in place even if all of them are not listed
[06:45] <buu> Venoryk: use perl for god's sake
[06:45] <Dr_Willis> or just have your .bash_aliases set some variable, and let your script check that if that has been set or not.
[06:45] <buu> jony_easyrider: your credentials in the file are incorrect
[06:46] <Venoryk> buu, I have no experience with perl and limited experience running linux trying to learn how to make the bash script do what I want then move onto the more complex stuff lol
[06:46] <karthus> libghc-xmonad-dev fails to install on precise with a bunch of nonexistent deps, this bug claims it's fixed https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xmonad/+bug/955000
[06:47] <karthus> anyone have experience with this?
[06:47] <jony_easyrider> buu, in the cifscredentials file I have two lines: username=jony password=sharespassword
[06:48] <Dr_Willis> Venoryk:  why is this even an issue? normally that alias file gets 'sourced' once when the user logs in. and thats it.  not much reason to be checking, if you think they are getting skipped , source it again
[06:48] <buu> jony_easyrider: Well, they are't working
[06:49] <buu> jony_easyrider: try this: smbclient -L //192.168.10.8
[06:49] <Venoryk> The way that I have it set up right now is if file exists then check for these aliases if all present echo aliases in place else add missing aliases otherwise create file and add aliases then source the file and continue running the rest of the install script to install my desired applications
[06:49] <karthus> I tried switching my mirrors around in hopes of getting a more up to date one but it did not seem to help
[06:49] <Dr_Willis> Venoryk:  so you are generating your own custome .bash_alias file and want to not overrite any alias's athat exist in the file to begin with.
[06:50] <makara> when I click a link in Thunderbird, it freezes up and takes about 20secs to load in Firefox before resuming. Why?
[06:50] <Dr_Willis> karthus:  all mirrors should have the same version.  fix-released  - doswent mean the fix has been pushed to the repos - but should be 'soon' ;)
[06:51] <pleanbean> I'm an absolute noob with Unix, can someone walk me through repartitioning my hard drive in Terminal?
[06:51] <jony_easyrider> buu, Called name not present
[06:51] <Venoryk> Dr_Willis: not really to overwrite, but add to the end if the bash_alias file exists already. So that in the future I can type wget and it will run arias2c instead and also run those aliases throughout the entirety of my install script
[06:51] <Dr_Willis> pleanbean:  id have to suggest checking out some fdisk  or cfdisk tutorials on youtube, or practice in virtualbox first.
[06:51] <buu> jony_easyrider: er
[06:52] <Dr_Willis> pleanbean:  fdisk is fairly straight forward. as is cfdisk. but it takes some learning of how their interface works.
[06:52] <jony_easyrider> buu, but if I logon with a file manager, it work with that user and its password
[06:52] <pleanbean> Dr_Willis, thanks for the suggestion, and I will, but first I want to set up my system first before I delve into it
[06:52] <Dr_Willis> pleanbean:  easier would be to use gparted from a live cd
[06:52] <buu> jony_easyrider: From the same machine?
[06:52] <pleanbean> Dr_Willis, I'm trying to use gparted but I'm lost with handling LVM
[06:52] <Dr_Willis> the installer has a gui to partion the disks also
[06:52] <Venoryk> Dr_Willis, exactly.. I don't want to wipe out the file if it already exists only modify it so that if I run this install script on a system that already has a .bash_aliases file in place it will just be amended.
[06:53] <Dr_Willis> pleanbean:  and why do you think cli tools wont have  the same issue?
[06:53] <jony_easyrider> buu, look here, pasted from Krusader: smb://jony@192.168.10.8/Documentation_Server
[06:53] <pleanbean> What are cli tools?
[06:53] <Dr_Willis> pleanbean:  fdisk, cfdisk, parted
[06:53] <Dr_Willis> !terminal
[06:53] <aboudea> hi
[06:54] <comodo_dragon> myrttti
[06:54] <Dr_Willis> 'C'ommand 'L'ine 'I'nterface
[06:54] <bazhang> comodo_dragon, whats the issue
[06:54] <comodo_dragon> just chillin`
[06:54] <comodo_dragon> bro
[06:54] <bazhang> comodo_dragon, this is NOT the chat channel
[06:55] <Dr_Willis> pleanbean:  classic fdisk docs ->  http://tldp.org/HOWTO/Partition/fdisk_partitioning.html
[06:55] <vijaya_> I have followed the steps described in the following link but after running the ./demo-arm.sh script the binaries are not created in the directory, how to get the binaries properly
[06:55] <vijaya_>  http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/MythTV_On_NSLU2#Compilation_on_the_slug
[06:55] <vijaya_> how to get binaries.???
[06:55] <Venoryk> Dr_Willis: My desire is to be able to go from a base install to a complete setup just from running my script. However, my problem arises in that when I run the grep command if it finds even 1 of the aliases in the .bash_aliases file it will not add the other required aliases. How could I get it to work as desired without having to search for and add each line individually?
[06:56] <Dr_Willis> vijaya_:  :) a nslu2 - golly i got one of those.. in a closet somewhere..
[06:56] <lilkili> hi
[06:56] <comodo_dragon> why NOT ?
[06:56] <lilkili> I'eve use "startup disk creator" and format the wrong partition, how to get back?
[06:56] <vijaya_> Dr-Willis: then how can I proceed??
[06:56] <bazhang> !ot | comodo_dragon
[06:56] <lilkili> I've used the "erase disk" option
[06:57] <Dr_Willis> Venoryk: No idea. for massive text manipulation and parseing. i imagine perl, python, or some other languge would be much easier then in bash.
[06:57] <comodo_dragon> !guidelines
[06:57] <buu> jony_easyrider: Was that the entire output of smbclient -L ... ?
[06:57] <Dr_Willis> vijaya_:  no idea. Id frogotten i even had the nslu2.  I havent seen it in years.
[06:58] <vijaya_> I followed the steps properly eventhough binaries are not created...
[06:58] <Venoryk> Dr_Willis: If I had any programming experience I would probably agree. However, I'm just trying to piece it together as I go *chuckles* Code makes my eyes cross.
[06:58] <Dr_Willis> Venoryk:  you may want to start with an easier project then.
[06:58] <jony_easyrider> buu, http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/6208189/
[06:58] <pleanbean> Dr_Willis, I just want to make a new partition table on the drive, how do I do that?
[06:58] <Dr_Willis> Venoryk:  ive been playign with my Raspbnerry pies
[06:59] <Dr_Willis> pleanbean:  in fdisk. N)ew  P)rimary   Tell it the # to use.    , set the T)ype    then W)rite change to disk
[06:59] <Dr_Willis> you have to tell it the size also. :) somewhere in there
[06:59] <lilkili> I'eve use "startup disk creator" and format the wrong partition, how to get back?
[06:59] <vijaya_> Dr_Willis: I am just trying to use that source for arm
[06:59] <Venoryk> Dr_Willis: I have my entire script set up and it works well save for this one issue. I was required to take a basic intro to programming course in college, but I've long since forgotten what I learned about python
[06:59] <Dr_Willis> pleanbean:  that url i gave gives an eample session of them partioning hdb
[07:00] <karthus> Dr_Willis, well that issue was from 2012 I believe
[07:00] <buu> jony_easyrider: That command is prompting you for a password right, and its using the right username?
[07:00] <jony_easyrider> buu, yes
[07:00] <Dr_Willis> Venoryk:  i took classes in FORTRAN. ;) then learned REXX.  then i moved to Perl. i dont do much python.
[07:01] <buu> jony_easyrider: Do you have a workgroup name?
[07:01] <pleanbean> Dr_Willis: "Warning: GPT detected. The until frisk doesn't support GPT. Use GNU Parted"?
[07:01] <jony_easyrider> yes
[07:01] <buu> or smb domain or something
[07:01] <jony_easyrider> buu, yes
[07:01] <buu> jony_easyrider: What is it?
[07:01] <Dr_Willis> Bash i just pick up bits and peices from the ABS guide
[07:01] <jony_easyrider> DEVELOP
[07:01] <jony_easyrider> buu, DEVELOP
[07:01] <Dr_Willis> pleanbean:  yep fdisk is getting old.. best to use parted as it suggests
[07:01] <buu> jony_easyrider: can you add -W DEVELOP to the previous -L command and try again?
[07:02] <Venoryk> Dr_Willis, Surely a simple comparison like that could be done from a bash script. I just haven't found out how yet *chuckles* I mean, I could very well eliminate it checking for the aliases and just write to the file anyhow, but I think that would be sloppy
[07:02] <Dr_Willis> Venoryk:  bash id not really designed for  working with text like  other languages.. what if the alias's case differ. :) what to do then.
[07:03] <Dr_Willis> I alwyas make my alias's with a UPPER case Letter normally.
[07:03] <Dr_Willis> but i also tend to cheat and use simple scripts a lot in my ~/.bin
[07:04] <vijaya_> anyone is having idea about mythtv compilation for arm...
[07:04] <Venoryk> Dr_Willis: That's why i'm starting to believe that I need to put it into an array and with Linux being case sensitive anyhow wouldn't Apt-get differ from apt-get anyhow?
[07:05] <pleanbean> Dr_Willis, reading about parted, how do I simply make a new partition table on the drive? All I can see is ways to change partitions already on the drive
[07:05] <Dr_Willis> vijaya_:  theres the #mythtv channel also.
[07:05] <buu> jony_easyrider: If that still doesn't work can you try: nmblookup -A 192.168.10.8
[07:06] <Skilz> DCC SEND 00010111001111001010101101000101010001010101010100101101010101011111000011010100101011100010101010100101010010101010010101010101010101010101001010111010010010010101010011010111111000000101011000101010100100100110101010010100010100101000101010011011011000011000101010010111100101001011010101010010101010010101001010100101001001010101010010101111001001100000000101100000001011011001001
[07:06] <Dr_Willis> pleanbean:  no idea. id have to read the docs and find a guide. I rarely use the tool.  its normally used by other partioning tools  to do the work
[07:06] <FloodBot1> NOTICE - The above was an exploit attempt that may have disconnected some users. Please ignore it, DON'T click on suspicious links, and type « /msg ubottu exploit » if you want more information.
[07:06] <buu> lol
[07:06] <pleanbean> Dr_Willis, can you help me do this in GParted then?
[07:06] <Dr_Willis> pleanbean:  in gparted you just click and delete, or make new.. its not that complex. I dont know what your Core issue is with LVM is. I never use lvm
[07:07]  * wylde mutters *script kiddies* :|
[07:07] <Dr_Willis>  http://www.dedoimedo.com/computers/gparted.html   GParted partitioning software - Full tutorial
[07:08] <Venoryk> Dr_Willis: Cause I have read that you can put the stuff into an array and process each one individually and give you the option to add it or not.. I'm just not sure how to go about it.
[07:09] <jony_easyrider> buu, http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/6208205/
[07:09] <Dr_Willis> pleanbean:  this url - says use lvmscan and lvmremove commands..
[07:09] <Dr_Willis> http://askubuntu.com/questions/217571/cant-format-delete-locked-partition-from-gparted
[07:10] <buu> jony_easyrider: smbclient -L DEVELOP -I 192.168.10.8 -U jony
[07:10] <Venoryk> Dr_Willis: Similar to http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2149362&s=51f9de93f0faf64826c79d7a896512cd&p=12667556#post12667556 is what I'm thinking but having it search for the string in the file and if not found add it.
[07:11] <SupaSol> hello
[07:11] <pleanbean> Dr_Willis, that worked. Thanks!
[07:12] <Dr_Willis> pleanbean:  and all i did was search on askubuntu.com for 'gparted remove lvm'  ;)
[07:12] <pleanbean> Ill do that next time haha I'm pretty helpless
[07:12] <Dr_Willis> now ive doubled my lvm knowledge.. from 0 commands to 2 commands.
[07:13] <Dr_Willis> redhat  and fedora by default use lvm i recall
[07:13] <Dr_Willis> hmm.. the 'accepted answer' at that askubuntu.com question.. dosent answer the wuestion and gives no fix at all. ;P
[07:14] <lilkili> is there a way to recover files from formated partition?
[07:15] <bazhang> !undelete | lilkili
[07:15] <Dr_Willis> !testdisk
[07:15] <Dr_Willis> thres some tools to try to recover photos i recall also
[07:15] <Dr_Willis> !info photorec
[07:15] <Dr_Willis> !find photorec
[07:16] <lilkili> thx Willis, I'll try testdisk
[07:16] <Dr_Willis> its very likely you wont be ble to recover much.. but you Might get lucky
 I've formated a 500HG drive, I'm so mad lol
[07:17] <Dr_Willis> http://serversignature.com/serversignature/docs/html/photorec.html
[07:17] <lilkili> thx I'll try that too
[07:17] <lilkili> wow
[07:17] <FloodBot1> !netsplit
[07:18] <lilkili> so much quit lol
[07:18] <Dr_Willis> and you lost all minecraft stuff ;)
[07:18] <Dr_Willis> yep. net splitted  just a little
[07:20] <jony_easyrider> buu, http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/6208239/
[07:26] <qbik> Hi there!
[07:26] <TheRiddla> heya mongrel
[07:28] <jony_easyrider> buu, are U here :) ?
[07:29] <buu> jony_easyrider: I've run out of brilliant ideas
[07:29] <buu> jony_easyrider: try different names other than DEVELOP?
[07:29] <anternat-> hello, i can ssh to my server fi,ne from within lan but not wan, i got a hostname from dyndns , made router changes where necessary, but when i connect from internet ip there s no way i can get rid of that "access denied" error with my correct password
[07:29] <jony_easyrider> buu, I tell U, this worked fine until I reinstalled ubuntu
[07:30] <anternat-> any suggestions
[07:31] <buu> jony_easyrider: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-2126053.html
[07:32] <buu> jony_easyrider: look at the last post
[07:35] <Abbas-> when i do ./configure in a /src directory in shell, it says permission denied
[07:36] <Abbas-> when i do sudo ./configure, it says command not found
[07:36] <Abbas-> who do i run the ./configure command?
[07:36] <SwedeMike> Abbas-: chmod +x ./configure and try again
[07:38] <Abbas-> thank you SwedeMike :)
[07:40] <buu> jony_easyrider: does smbclient //192.168.10.8/Documentation_Server
[07:40] <buu> jony_easyrider: Do anything useful?
[07:41] <comodo_dragon> !smb
[07:42] <comodo_dragon> SWAT interesting. USA SWAT I assume.
[07:42] <jony_easyrider> buu, http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/6208299/
[07:43] <buu> LIFE IS PAIN.
[07:43] <buu> jony_easyrider: Did you change that conf file?
[07:43] <jony_easyrider> buu, no
[07:43] <comodo_dragon> bocaneri is abusing his ops in linux channel. he banned me because i proved him wrong.
[07:44] <buu> jony_easyrider: Well, do it
[07:44] <jony_easyrider> buu, what to change?
[07:44] <auronandace> comodo_dragon: that has nothing to do with this channel, complain to #freenode
[07:45] <buu> jony_easyrider: does dpkg -l | grep windbind a package?
[07:45] <buu> jony_easyrider: Do you have a /etc/nsswitch.conf file?
[07:45] <buu> jony_easyrider: Change the hosts line to hosts: files wins dns
[07:46] <buu> *does dpkg -l | grep winbind; show a package
[07:47] <comodo_dragon> bocaneri
[07:56] <aboudea> يالكلاب
[07:57] <comodo_dragon> bocaneri
[07:57] <jony_easyrider> buu, I have others too on that line, delete those?
[07:58] <Caelum> is there an ubuntu dev channel somewhere?
[07:58] <fidel> aboudea: i doubt someone inhere can read/interpret your input. besides: channel is english only. what language do you speak?
[07:58] <DJones> Caelum: Possibly #ubuntu-dev may be the right channel
[07:58] <Caelum> I just checked, no one there
[08:00] <cfhowlett> Caelum, probably they're all in the bunker ramping up to release 13.10
[08:01] <anternat-> ..
[08:01] <Pricey> Caelum: #ubuntu-devel... but why're you asking? What's the real question?
[08:03] <Caelum> Pricey: the real question is what is the dev channel, duh
[08:03] <Caelum> Pricey: thanks
[08:03] <buu> JoeyJoeJo: What's the stuff there already?
[08:04] <anternat> i cannot login to my ubuntuserver 12.04 via ssh from wan,port forwarded and  did most. alwways "  access denied" what must i do
[08:04] <comodo_dragon> keys
[08:04] <aluno> wazzap
[08:04] <comodo_dragon> !ssh
[08:05] <anternat> i use a host name and not an IP (host name from dyn)
[08:07] <Leo89> @anternat......Im no pro, but make sure the remote server allows all ssh connection (the server Im working on can only be accessed from my lab IP....I cant connect to it from home)
[08:08] <comodo_dragon> bocaneri
[08:09] <cfhowlett> comodo_dragon, stop it.
[08:09] <Leo89> have fun guys
[08:09] <DJones> comodo_dragon: Stop that, this is not the place for issues regarding other channels
[08:12] <vadi_> hey all
[08:12] <vadi_> i'm just testing chatX IRC
[08:13] <cfhowlett> !test|vadi_,
[08:13] <vadi_> could some1 pls respond if my messages are visible
[08:13] <vadi_> thx!
[08:13] <DJones> vadi_: Sure are
[08:13] <ActionParsnip> vadi_: you are seen
[08:13] <vadi_> thank you guys, im glad!
[08:20] <jony_easyrider> buu, I changed the username on the target machine, but same issue :((
[08:25] <delinquentme> if [ ! -f /usr/lib/libSPAM.so ]
[08:25] <delinquentme> if [ ! -f /usr/lib/libSPAM.so ]
[08:25] <delinquentme> what exactly is this checking for??
[08:28] <PriceChild> ./topic
[08:33] <buu> jony_easyrider: did you add wins to that config file?
[08:33] <jony_easyrider> yes
[08:33] <jony_easyrider> buu, yes
[08:33] <buu> Got me dude
[08:34] <SANKAKU> Bonjour
[08:34] <sam113101> !fr | SANKAKU
[08:35] <SANKAKU> thank you
[08:36] <bluenemo> hi guys. i'm trying to setup openstack on a few old servers for testing and evaluation. i'm trying to get maas running with it. the servers are all already running 13.04. i can add new nodes but there status is "Failed Tests". Is there a howto to add existing installations to maas?
[08:37] <cfhowlett> !ubuntu-server|bluenemo, they'd know
[08:40] <bluenemo> cfhowlett, thx
[08:41] <owenn> Hello all. Just deleted my windows partition from my dual/now single boot. But of course windows wasnt going to make it easy, it took the master boot with it. Now I am using a Linux mint live DVD. How do I install grub to the MBR from this live DVD? I dont want to bork this up even more than I already have done.
[08:41] <cfhowlett> !mint|owenn,
[08:41] <owenn> Im here because I cannot get into my Ubuntu!!!
[08:42] <cfhowlett> owenn, "Now I'm using Linux Mint live DVD" ...
[08:42] <owenn> Id use an ubuntu if I had one lying around. Surely I can use this live dvd to get grub working so I can get back to my UBUNTU!!!
[08:44] <k1l> owenn: use boot-repair. but i dont know if mint is shipping that
[08:44] <Ben64> deleting windows doesn't mess up ubuntu, unless you were using wubi
[08:44] <k1l> Ben64: ah yes, that is a good point.
[08:45] <owenn> k1l> Thanks.
[08:45]  * cfhowlett ... so wubi, we meet again ...
[08:45] <owenn> No not using wubi
[08:46] <owenn> I deleted the windows partition and its hidden package that contains the reinstalls. I musted have taken out the MBR too..
[08:46] <Ben64> that doesn't happen
[08:47] <cfhowlett> owenn, did you use the windows installer?
[08:47] <delinquentme> can someone give me their output for echo JAVA_HOME
[08:47] <ikonia> delinquentme: why ?
[08:47] <delinquentme> can someone give me their output for echo $JAVA_HOME ****
[08:48] <owenn> No it was pre-installed on the device, when I got it. The usual thing with 90% of hardware these days.
[08:48] <anternat> rocketeer
[08:48] <Dai_1987> delinquentme: blank
[08:48] <delinquentme> ikonia, i think I have things misinstalled :P
[08:48] <anternat> i have news :(
[08:48] <ikonia> delinquentme: so someone else's won't matter, you need a correct setting for your enviornment
[08:50] <owenn> Isnt there a grub boot cd or DVD, that I could use to boot up my Ubuntu and then do the repair from there?
[08:51] <Ben64> owenn: you still haven't explained how deleting windows' partition got rid of grub, thats probably not the issue here
[08:52] <owenn> gparted
[08:52] <Ben64> gparted is a program, yes
[08:52] <owenn> delete the windows partition, then created a new ext4 partition. Reboot and blank screen!
[08:52] <k1l> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair  owenn
[08:53] <Ben64> none of that messes with grub
[08:53] <owenn> the partition that my Ubuntu resides on is there
[08:54] <cfhowlett> owenn, yes, but the MBR doesn't.
[08:54] <owenn> exactly
[08:54] <owenn> so I have to tell the MBR to boot my Ubuntu
[08:55] <Ben64> but it already was booting ubuntu before....
[08:55] <owenn> It was dual boot before.
[08:55] <Ben64> ok?
[08:55] <cfhowlett> owenn, well, you could try booting the ubuntu mbr and restoring grub from there.  but since you don't have the ubuntu ISO ....
[08:55] <Ben64> grub doesn't care if you get rid of a partition
[08:55] <Ben64> unless that partition contains grub, which the windows partition wouldn't
[08:56] <owenn> I have an Ubuntu minimal install, net installer. Would that do?
[08:56] <cfhowlett> !grub|owenn, try.  I don't know if grub is on the mini iso
[08:56] <Ben64> its still probably not grub, pastebin some stuff.... "sudo parted -l" "sudo dd if=/dev/sda | file"
[09:04] <metodize> Hello, is there a possible way around using 'nomodeset' to get my screen to work after an install? It's keeping radeon drivers from loading, according to my Xorg.0.log, by disabling KMS. Any ideas?
[09:04] <jony_easyrider> buu, I don't get it: on 32 bit Ubuntu worked well, but since I'm using the 64 bit version, it just won't work
[09:05] <ActionParsnip> mathfreak: which radeon gpu are you using?
[09:06] <ActionParsnip> jony_easyrider: what is 'it'?
[09:06] <metodize> R730 i think, it's and HD 4650
[09:06] <metodize> an*
[09:06] <ActionParsnip> metodize: thanks, and what is the output of:  cat /etc/issue
[09:07] <metodize> ActionParsnip,  one sec, and thanks
[09:07] <metodize> Ubuntu 13.04 \n \l
[09:07] <owenn> Thanks everyone for advice. Found an old Ubuntu USB install to boot from. Maybe I can do it from this instead...
[09:07] <ActionParsnip> metodize: https://launchpad.net/~makson96/+archive/fglrx
[09:08] <lesshaste> how do you bookmark a page in chromium?
[09:08] <lesshaste> I realise this sounds like a very simple question :)
[09:08] <lesshaste> but I can't see it
[09:08] <gulag2013> the star
[09:08] <gulag2013> on the url bar
[09:09] <k1l> lesshaste: ctrl+d
[09:09] <lesshaste> gulag2013, thanks!!
[09:09] <lesshaste> I had no idea
[09:09] <lesshaste> k1l, thanks
[09:10] <gulag2013> I answered something today . Where are those cookies.
[09:10] <AdityaRaj> hi guys
[09:11] <AdityaRaj> I want to make a bootable setup usb for windows xp using my ubuntu system
[09:11] <AdityaRaj> what can I use to do this? I am trying the pre installed startup disk creator but that is not allowing me to select and windows iso
[09:11] <gulag2013> Bootable from the flash drive? I'm  not sure that can be done.
[09:11] <k1l> AdityaRaj: windows got own tools now to make a usb stick.
[09:12] <metodize> ActionParsnip, ah yes,  i just finished messing around with that one and while it did work  it wouldn't give the full resolution, andi couldn't set it through xrandr or the autostart file
[09:12] <tdn> How do I get the Simple Scan program to work with my new HP LaserJet Pro 200 Color MFP printer (M276nw)? I have already installed hplip, however, Simple Scan says no scanner device was found.
[09:12] <AdityaRaj> but i am not running windows on any of my systems
[09:12] <metodize> i was hoping that i could somehow get the radeon driver to work
[09:12] <AdityaRaj> k1l, can u suggest any such software please
[09:13] <gulag2013> AdityaRaj, You can make a bootable install of XP is that what you meant?
[09:13] <AdityaRaj> gulag2013, yes
[09:14] <wk-work> anyone else getting a lot of 404s from launchpad.net ?
[09:14] <gulag2013> Ahh, okay you need to Google or Youtube "Diskpart" that well guide you through that.
[09:14] <gulag2013> Oh sorry, you are not running Windows
[09:15] <wk-work> http://ppa.launchpad.net/ubuntu-wine/ppa/ubuntu/dists/wheezy/main/binary-amd64/Packages <- giving a 404 for anyone else?
[09:15] <k1l> wk-work: wheezy?
[09:15] <Ben64> wk-work: ubuntu wine wheezy? you have a lot of problems going on there, i suggest you fix that
[09:16] <wk-work> oh not again
[09:16] <wk-work> dist-upgrade broke my stuff once again!
[09:16] <gordonjcp> wk-work: what did it break, and how?
[09:16] <fidel> gfx-driver?
[09:16] <cfhowlett> !wheezy
[09:16] <AdityaRaj> gulag2013, yeah but there is a pc in my home with windwos running on it.. its an effort and would like to do it on ubuntu itself but if there is no other option then i will use windows
[09:16] <Ben64> wk-work: no, that was you that broke it
[09:17] <wk-work> gordonjcp: I'm not running wheezy.
[09:18] <k1l> AdityaRaj: for winxp serach for bart-pe . for newer windows versions search for the microsoft tool, but that is all more a topic for ##windows since its not ubuntu specific
[09:18] <gulag2013> AdityaRaj, I'm in the middle of searching for you. I would like to know how to do that myself.
[09:19] <scruz> hello.
[09:19] <cfhowlett> scruz, greetings
[09:19] <scruz> is there a way to have a local cache of packages? i'm bandwidth-challenged and it will make sense to cache packages for my ubuntu vms
[09:20]  * scruz doffs hat to cfhowlett 
[09:20] <cfhowlett> Screedo, of course.  YOu can make your own mirro
[09:20] <cfhowlett> !mirror
[09:20] <cfhowlett> scruz, hmm.   wrong factoid
[09:20] <scruz> cfhowlett: complete newbie here.
[09:21] <cfhowlett> scruz, so you maintaining multiple machines?
[09:21] <scruz> i plan to.
[09:21] <scruz> vagrant vms
[09:22] <cfhowlett> scruz, see    http://askubuntu.com/questions/170348/how-to-make-my-own-local-repository
[09:22] <scruz> thank you kindly.
[09:22] <zwamkat> Crew, I want to mount two Windows shares, each on it's own mount point. Both are served from the same windows server. Any hints?
[09:22] <d1rkp1tt> Hi all, I am running apache on a server and I have locked down the directory... so I cannot CD into it... but just wondering how to run the following command from its parent directory... sudo rm apache2/*.gz
[09:22] <scruz> could you also refer me to a resource to become competent in (POSIX) shell?
[09:22] <AdityaRaj> gulag2013, thanks.. really appreciate it :)
[09:23] <d1rkp1tt> At the moment I get no such file or directory
[09:23]  * scruz was primarily raised on Windows.
[09:23] <d1rkp1tt> So its considering my wildcard as part of the file name I think
[09:23] <d1rkp1tt> maybe I want to be in #bash
[09:24] <gordonjcp> wk-work: that's nice, but it's not what I asked
[09:24] <gulag2013> AdityaRaj, no problem. Give me a min
[09:24] <cfhowlett> d1rkp1tt, or in #ubuntu-server
[09:25] <gordonjcp> !fstab | zwamkat
[09:25] <wk-work> gordonjcp: sorry, I got my distros confused, I completely forgot I changed distro this morning
[09:25] <wk-work> world without coffee
[09:25] <gordonjcp> wk-work: stop immediately
[09:25] <d1rkp1tt> cfhowlett, cheers
[09:25] <gulag2013> AdityaRaj, Unetbootin should work. http://www.webupd8.org/2010/10/create-bootable-windows-7-usb-drive.html
[09:25] <gordonjcp> wk-work: get a coffee
[09:25] <cfhowlett> d1rkp1tt, good luck
[09:25] <gordonjcp> wk-work: go for a walk outside for ten minutes
[09:28] <zwamkat> gordonjcp: I've got the fstab syntax down. Cheers. The trick is *two* shares, same server, one mount point each.
[09:28] <zwamkat> !Partitions
[09:30] <gulag2013> AdityaRaj, sudo apt-get install unetbootin  follow the instruction on the link
[09:31] <metodize> is there anything other than using 'nomodeset'   after  a fresh install to  get videocard to display again?
[09:33] <nightdrever> how do i fix Error: Dependency is not satisfiable: libX11-6 ???
[09:34] <k1l> nightdrever: remove the PPAs that have unment depencies?
[09:34] <nightdrever> how do i do that sorry im a noob
[09:35] <gulag2013> nightdrever, have you tried using synaptic to install your package. It usually solves my dependency  issues automatically.
[09:35] <nightdrever> its scidb
[09:36] <nightdrever> and i downloaded it from site as not in synaptic etc
[09:37] <gulag2013> Well, you could use synaptic to search out the files that is claiming you are missing. Not sure
[09:38] <scruz> thanks, cfhowlett
[09:39] <wk-work> aaand i'm back, with coffee.
[09:40] <sharpshooter> hi friends, my shell is zsh and when I'm trying to install intel ipwraw driver in my system but it throws an error $SHELL not set to bash
[09:40] <Rory> nightdrever: Can you try running: "sudo apt-get -f install"
[09:41] <sharpshooter> my problem is i cant able to switch back to bash
[09:41] <Rory> nightdrever: This will automatically install missing dependencies - installing a package manually doesn't resolve dependencies, that's what apt-get is for
[09:41] <Rory> sharpshooter: You could trick it by running "SHELL=bash commands..."
[09:42] <nightdrever> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[09:42] <Rory> sharpshooter: or just run the "bash" command to actually be in bash, and then do it
[09:42] <Rory> nightdrever: Can you please put the command you run to produce the error, along with the full error output, onto http://paste.ubuntu.com and then put the resulting URL in channel
[09:43] <nightdrever> Rory its a deb file i try to install
[09:43] <sharpshooter> Rory, i tryied bash and it switched the commands and layout like bash but  when I echo $SHELL it is same zsh shell
[09:43] <nightdrever> Error: Dependency is not satisfiable: libX11-6
[09:46] <chathura> how can I connect to same session via xrdp
[09:46] <chathura> when I connect to my pc it gives new session
[09:51] <dsathe> I just did a fresh of win8.1 on my ssd
[09:51] <dsathe> i have a f4ree partition on it and want to install ubuntu
[09:51] <dsathe> but the intsaller does not detect the partition table on that disk
[09:51] <dsathe> win8 is not in efi
[09:51] <dsathe> someone please help
[09:52] <dsathe> the disk utility detects it properly so does blkid
[09:52] <sharpshooter> Rory, When I used to change the shell by sudo chsh -s `which zsh` username i got an error chsh: PAM: Authentication failure
[09:53] <cfhowlett> dsathe, win 8 is supported in ##windows
[09:53] <dsathe> cfhowlett: course i know
[09:53] <dsathe> i want to dual boot
[09:53] <cfhowlett> !uefi|dsathe, but to install ubuntu
[09:54] <gulag2013> dsathe, the best thing I can think of is not to give one a your partitions a file system and see if The ubuntu cd displays the free space to install.
[09:54] <dsathe> cfhowlett: yes i have free space on the ssd , i have a secondary data drive which is a standard sata hdd
[09:54] <dsathe> no that is the issue it does not
[09:54] <dsathe> diskutility and fdisk do
[09:55] <dsathe> is there a way to specify the target partition as a command line arg
[09:56] <gulag2013> I have no experience with that. You are sure you did format the other 3 partitions with Fat or Ntfs?
[09:56] <gulag2013> did not
[09:57] <gulag2013> Are you installing it from the cd as your bootdrive or from Wubi?
[09:59] <Rory> nightdrever: Can you please put the command you run to produce the error, along with the full error output, onto http://paste.ubuntu.com and then put the resulting URL in channel
[10:00] <Rory> sharpshooter: you don't want "sudo"
[10:00] <nightdrever> Rory Error: Dependency is not satisfiable: libX11-6 is the only error i get
[10:01] <nightdrever> so i cant install the package
[10:01] <Ben64> then you probably shouldn't install it
[10:01] <Rory> nightdrever: I won't ask again: Can you please *put the command you run to produce the error* , along with *the full error output*, onto http://paste.ubuntu.com and then put the resulting URL in channel
[10:01] <Rory> nightdrever: Also what Ubuntu version are you using?
[10:02] <Rory> nightdrever: I'm asking because running "apt-get -f install" didn't work for you and I'm trying to work out why
[10:02] <calimero_82> hey guys
[10:02] <Rory> hello calimero_82
[10:03] <nightdrever> http://pastebin.com/XpsDdhwU
[10:03] <Rory> nightdrever: Can you please run the command: sudo dpkg -i name_of_file.deb
[10:03] <Rory> nightdrever: Actually wait What are you trying to install?
[10:03] <ActionParsnip> nightdrever: also add the output of:  cat /etc/issue
[10:03] <Rory> nightdrever: scidb?
[10:03] <Rory> !info scidb
[10:04] <k1l> nightdrever: what file is that exact? and why dont you use the ubuntu repos?
[10:04] <calimero_82> boys at the start of ubuntu came out a message before it came out of the screen identification, what is?
[10:04] <nightdrever> its a chess database program
[10:04] <nightdrever> and its not in the repos
[10:04] <gulag2013> Rory, what does the -f switch do before install?
[10:04] <gordonjcp> zwamkat: so, add both shares to fstab...
[10:04] <Rory> k1l: It's not in the repos but they have very clear and concise installatio instructions on their website
[10:04] <calimero_82> i've ubuntu 12.04
[10:04] <ActionParsnip> gulag2013: fix
[10:04] <Rory> gulag2013: This will automatically install missing dependencies - installing a package manually doesn't resolve dependencies, that's what apt-get is for
[10:05] <gulag2013> Great, thank you
[10:05] <ActionParsnip> gulag2013: man apt-get
[10:05] <Rory> calimero_82: Is English your native language?
[10:05] <sharpshooter> Rory, but with out sudo there is nothing happening after I type the password
[10:05] <calimero_82> no italian
[10:05] <Rory> sharpshooter: That means it worked
[10:05] <sharpshooter> Rory, no change in $SHELL
[10:05] <gulag2013> Yes, I did man install
[10:05] <Rory> sharpshooter: Oh
[10:05] <Rory> nightdrever: The instructions are here http://scidb.sourceforge.net/download.html
[10:05] <calimero_82> Rory:  i'ven't explain good?
[10:06] <Rory> calimero_82: If you're getting an error, you should let us know what message you are seeing
[10:06] <Rory> calimero_82: You should also let us know what Ubuntu version you're using
[10:07] <sharpshooter> Rory, after the chsh -s to  bash in my username the $SHELL still is same
[10:07] <sharpshooter> what I need to do
[10:07] <nightdrever> thanks ROry for some reason it installed with sudo dpkg -i scidb-beta_1.0-r960_amd64.deb
[10:07] <sharpshooter> Rory,  Do I want to restart the system ?
[10:07] <calimero_82> Rory: 12.04
[10:07] <ActionParsnip> sharpshooter: sudo doesnt give feedback as you type, just type your pass as if it were and hit ENTER
[10:07] <nightdrever> but didnt work by double clicking deb file
[10:07] <kali_eskrima> hi is this ubuntu for beginners, and do you offer help?
[10:07] <Rory> !ask | kali_eskrima
[10:07] <calimero_82> it came a message before login-identification
[10:08] <ActionParsnip> kali_eskrima: we help all ubuntu user
[10:08] <nightdrever> ok im off thanks again Rory
[10:08] <Rory> calimero_82: What did the message say?
[10:08] <Rory> !cookie > rory
[10:08] <calimero_82> i don't remember caus it's been very fast
[10:08] <calimero_82> :(
[10:08] <sharpshooter> ActionParsnip,  I typed typed the password and the shell is still the same
[10:08] <Rory> calimero_82: Is it causing problems?
[10:09] <calimero_82> no nothing
[10:09] <Rory> sharpshooter: what command exactly are you running? "chsh -s /bin/bash username" try that
[10:09] <Rory> calimero_82: So what is the problem?
[10:09] <calimero_82> i think there 's a problem
[10:09] <Rory> calimero_82: Why?
[10:10] <calimero_82> had never appeared that message
[10:10] <sharpshooter> Rory, i tried  chsh -s `which bash` username and  tried  chsh -s /bin/bash  username
[10:11] <ActionParsnip> sharpshooter: what is the output of:  cat /etc/issue
[10:11] <kali_eskrima> if i install wine and wine windows program loader will that help me use certain win programs? what is the difference between them two? and will i be able to use the cannon printer and scanner with the wine program?
[10:11] <Rory> !wine | kali_eskrima
[10:11] <Rory> kali_eskrima: Basically, some Windows applications work, and some don't
[10:11] <ActionParsnip> kali_eskrima: the drivers will need to be native, not used in Wine
[10:11] <sharpshooter> ActionParsnip,  Ubuntu 13.04 \n \l
[10:11] <Rory> kali_eskrima: If you're having problems with your scanner we can help you set it up, does it have a model number?
[10:12] <kali_eskrima> what is native dirvers?
[10:12] <ActionParsnip> kali_eskrima: Wine is an abstraction layer for Windows call and you will have access to hardware which the Linux OS can communicate with.
[10:12] <Rory> sharpshooter: If you reset your terminal does the problem persist?
[10:12] <ActionParsnip> kali_eskrima: so yes, native drivers will be needed
[10:12] <Rory> sharpshooter: so you run "echo $SHELL" and it says "zsh" even though you're actually using Bash?
[10:12] <ActionParsnip> kali_eskrima: did you check the Canon Europe website? They do make driver debs for some of their products.
[10:13] <sharpshooter> Rory, Rory  yes it still says /usr/bin/zsh
[10:13] <calimero_82> Rory:  i restart and control if happend again?
[10:13] <ActionParsnip> sharpshooter: what is the output of:  grep `whoami` /etc/passwd
[10:13] <sharpshooter> Rory,  how can I  reset my terminal ?
[10:14] <Rory> sharpshooter: close it and open it again if it';s graphical
[10:14] <sharpshooter> Rory, yeah I restart but not helping
[10:14] <sharpshooter> sharpshooter:x:1000:1000:Sharpshooter,,,:/home/sharpshooter:/bin/bash
[10:15] <sharpshooter> ActionParsnip, sharpshooter:x:1000:1000:Sharpshooter,,,:/home/sharpshooter:/bin/bash
[10:15] <kali_eskrima> i think i set it up after many hours looking online,... i did something find in the canon webste and downloaded the drivers. the only thing is bothering me, is that to use the canon printer scanner i need to use gimp.. but the icon of the ubuntu 12.04 "printer" and "scanner" doesnt recognize the canon....? why
[10:15] <Rory> kali_eskrima: What's the model number of your printer/scanner ?
[10:15] <kali_eskrima> so yes i think i set it up, i downloaded the dirvers
[10:15] <ActionParsnip> sharpshooter: looks fine, do you have the shell set in /etc/environment or in ~/.bashrc   at all
[10:15] <kali_eskrima> canon mp2200 pixma multipractice
[10:16] <Rory> kali_eskrima: What Ubuntu version are you using? (use the command "cat /etc/issue" to check if you're unsure)
[10:17] <kali_eskrima> 12.04 ubuntu
[10:17] <ActionParsnip> kali_eskrima: what is the output of:   cat /etc/issue; uname -m
[10:17] <kali_eskrima> oh and before i forget...where can i find the complete list of command lines for terminal? thanks
[10:17] <kali_eskrima> ok hold on @actionparsnip
[10:17] <Rory> kali_eskrima: It doesn't relly work like that but
[10:17] <ActionParsnip> kali_eskrima: the list is astronomical, completely unfeasible to document that way
[10:18] <Rory> !cli | kali_eskrima
[10:18] <kali_eskrima> i heard about the "man"...what is that excatly?
[10:18] <jack> the question alone is wonderful though :P
[10:19] <jack> windows fan, live!
[10:19] <kali_eskrima> ok so for the output is:
[10:19] <ActionParsnip> kali_eskrima: its the options of the command you want to use
[10:19] <ActionParsnip> kali_eskrima: what is the output of the command I gave plase
[10:19] <Guest41419> sc\x00\x00\x8f\x16w\x11\xcfN\xd5\xf4\xfe\x95\x80\x995z\xe1\xb6\x9e\x02\x1eM\xc9\xf9~\xe8W\x83PF\x1aK\x06\xb0h\x7f\xd3\x9a\x86AV2\x05\xee\x1f\xa7\x1f\x93;\xe2Js \x11\xfe\xfd\xc9)\x03\xcb\\O<P,u\x976HG\xd5\x8d^
[10:20] <kali_eskrima> Ubuntu 12.04.3 LTS \n \l  x86_64
[10:20] <kali_eskrima> @actionparsnip Ubuntu 12.04.3 LTS \n \l  x86_64
[10:20] <kali_eskrima> sorry im slow..
[10:20] <Guest41419> acknowledge receipt
[10:21] <Rory> Guest41419: Looks like garbage
[10:21] <DJones> Guest41419: Do you have an Ubuntu support question?
[10:21] <kali_eskrima> im new to this ubuntu. i like it but its giving me so much complications. even the 12.04 has error messages , like it has failed and if i want to send a report...
[10:21] <calimero_82> Rory:  i restart my pc and control the advice?
[10:21] <Rory> calimero_82: Honestly I don't know what you're asking
[10:21] <ActionParsnip> kali_eskrima: https://launchpad.net/~michael-gruz/+archive/canon/+files/cnijfilter-ip2200series_2.60-5ubuntu4_amd64.deb    install that
[10:21] <tengopreguntas1> can anybody tell me where i can read about what is the structure of the .list files for the repositories. i want to know how the "raring" "universe" thing works
[10:21] <Rory> calimero_82: If it isn't causing you any actual problems, ignore it
[10:22] <Guest41419> black out
[10:22] <calimero_82> ok
[10:22] <kali_eskrima> so how do you guys know always what to put in the terminal if the list is astronomical?
[10:22] <calimero_82> i see if happened again now
[10:22] <calimero_82> bye and thanks Rory
[10:22] <Rory> kali_eskrima: Experience :)
[10:22] <kali_eskrima> @actionparsnip i saw that website in launchpad of michael, but i dont understand it all....
[10:23] <kali_eskrima> hmm..so u actually always upgrading the system and adding commands?
[10:23] <Rory> tengopreguntas1: https://wiki.debian.org/RepositoryFormat might be what you're after
[10:23] <ActionParsnip> kali_eskrima: its a deb file which may help
[10:23] <ActionParsnip> kali_eskrima: canon support is patchy at best
[10:23] <tengopreguntas1> Rory: sounds like. thanks a lot
[10:23] <Rory> kali_eskrima: "commands" you keep talking about are really just programs
[10:23] <majorJ> can install saucy salamander desktop from command line while running 13.04 desktop currently? or do i need to install it from ISO?
[10:23] <kali_eskrima> so what is the debian? a system that my pc is runing?
[10:23] <Rory> !debian | kali_eskrima
[10:23] <ActionParsnip> majorJ: #ubuntu+1 for Saucy support
[10:24] <sharpshooter> ActionParsnip,  I'am relay new to environment term, what is that supposed to do  ?
[10:24] <ActionParsnip> sharpshooter: is the shell defined in either of those 2 files?
[10:24] <rich97> Hey, does anyone else have a problem of "permission denied: /dev/null" when piping script output into it?
[10:25] <kali_eskrima> @action parsnip so that link for deb that you gave me, will actually make my programs in ubuntu for scanner and printer recognizable?
[10:25] <kali_eskrima> @rory oooh ok... i got it..commands
[10:25] <Rory> rich97: What is the output of: grep null /lib/udev/rules.d/*
[10:25] <rich97> /lib/udev/rules.d/50-udev-default.rules:KERNEL=="null|zero|full|random|urandom", MODE="0666"
[10:26] <majorJ> so saucy is not stable yet huh ?
[10:26] <Rory> majorJ: Not until the 17th
[10:26] <majorJ> cool bbl then
[10:26] <majorJ> :)
[10:26] <Rory> rich97: What is the output of: ls -l /dev/null
[10:26] <kali_eskrima> but what clue could you give me to know what repositories will be for ubuntu or debian...??? how would i know? or recogonize..?
[10:26] <ActionParsnip> majno, its prerelease
[10:27] <rich97> Rory: "crw-rw-rw- 1 root root 1, 3 Oct  8 08:42 /dev/null"
[10:27] <kali_eskrima> !repositories
[10:27] <kali_eskrima> ooh cool haha
[10:27] <sharpshooter> ActionParsnip,  there is file in ~/.bashrc and in environment  there is PATH="/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/game    s:/usr/local/games"
[10:27] <Rory> rich97: What Ubuntu version are you using? (use the command "cat /dev/null" to check if you don't know)
[10:28] <kali_eskrima> ubutu has a command how to help u with all. who set it up? the ubutu commands?
[10:28] <AdityaRaj> guys i am trying to install gparted on my system.. but it is saying unable to locate package
[10:29] <Rory> kali_eskrima: I'm not sure what you're asking to be honest, could you rephrase?
[10:29] <Rory> AdityaRaj: Can you try running "sudo apt-get update" first?
[10:29] <kali_eskrima> @Rory @ActionParsnip so with this link for debian will i be able to use the ubuntu scanner and printer programs (already pre installed) and they will recognize the canon printer?
[10:29] <AdityaRaj> Rory, sure
[10:29] <Rory> kali_eskrima: Which link?
[10:29] <ActionParsnip> kali_eskrima: they were setup long long ago
[10:29] <qin> Rory: What cat /dev/null have to do with version
[10:29] <ActionParsnip> kali_eskrima: I'm not sure how you are meaning 'set up'
[10:29] <Rory> !gnu | kali_eskrima further reading
[10:29] <ActionParsnip> kali_eskrima: or why it is important]
[10:30] <Rory> Oh qin whoops typo
[10:30] <AdityaRaj> Rory, i am getting lots of errors
[10:30] <Rory> qin: His issue is with /dev/null that's why
[10:30] <gartral> um.. why am I getting permission denied with this command: /etc/asterisk$ sudo cat extensions.conf.bak >> extensions.conf bash: extensions.conf: Permission denied
[10:30] <Rory> AdityaRaj: Can you please put all the errors on "http://paste.ubuntu.com"
[10:30] <kali_eskrima> https://launchpad.net/~michael-gruz/+archive/canon/+files/cnijfilter-ip2200series_2.60-5ubuntu4_amd64.deb this link
[10:30] <kali_eskrima> it was an executale file..
[10:30] <ActionParsnip> gartral: because the sudo doesn't traverse the redirection
[10:30] <rich97> Rory: 13.04
[10:30] <Rory> gartral: cat extensions.conf.bak | sudo tee -a extensions.conf
[10:31] <gartral> Rory: or reverse if I want the contents of the first at the bottom?
[10:31] <Rory> kali_eskrima: That's nothing to do with debian that's packaged for Ubuntu by someone called "michael-gruz" (apparently)
[10:31] <rich97> Rory: FYI cat /dev/null returned nothing.
[10:31] <kali_eskrima> oh ok
[10:31] <Rory> rich97: "cat /etc/issue" sorry my mistake. doesn't matter now
[10:31] <sepero> gartral: i think you need sudo su -c "cat extensions.conf.bak >> extensions.conf"
[10:31] <ActionParsnip> rich97: it will, its a black hole
[10:31] <kali_eskrima> no is not important was just cool that you put exclamatory point and it gives you a lot of information..
[10:32] <Ben64> sepero: please don't suggest that
[10:32] <ActionParsnip> sepero: both will work :)
[10:32] <rich97> ActionParsnip: Yeah, I thought it was a weird command :)
[10:32] <Rory> gartral: Ignore sepero
[10:32] <Rory> rich97: sudo rm -f /dev/null ; sudo mknod /dev/null c 1 3
[10:32] <AdityaRaj> Rory, here you go: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6208777/
[10:32] <Rory> rich97: Careful please
[10:32] <kali_eskrima> so anyway, can you give me a hint how will i know what programs are for debian and what for ubuntu and where i will se repositories?...
[10:33] <Rory> rich97: and then sudo chmod 666 /dev/null
[10:33] <gartral> Rory: yours worked after appending 'sudo' to the string, neither file are under my direct control
[10:33] <Rory> kali_eskrima: All the programs in the repositories are for Ubuntu
[10:33] <Rory> kali_eskrima: DOn't worry about Debian at all
[10:33] <ActionParsnip> kali_eskrima: you are using Ubuntu, so the commands you have will be for Ubuntu
[10:33] <kali_eskrima> quick question, what are repositories, and where are they?
[10:33] <kali_eskrima> oooh
[10:33] <Rory> !apt | kali_eskrima
[10:33] <ActionParsnip> gartral: in your command, the only part with sudo powers was the 'echo' command
[10:34] <ActionParsnip> kali_eskrima: why not use the web to find out....
[10:34] <rich97> Rory: sudo rm -f /dev/null; Permission denied /dev/null
[10:34] <gartral> ActionParsnip: echo?
[10:34] <kali_eskrima> right
[10:34] <qin> kali_eskrima: would you: lsb_release -a ???
[10:34] <Rory> gartral: cat
[10:34] <rich97> Rory: Chmod works but it doesn't seem to do anything
[10:34] <gartral> Rory: ahh yes
[10:34] <Rory> rich97: No output is good
[10:34] <kali_eskrima> those are supear easy questions that i can found online.. google it
[10:34] <gartral> rich97: no output means the command succeeded
[10:34] <kali_eskrima> what is that?
[10:35] <Rory> kali_eskrima: We're not supposed to tell people to "google it" but... yes
[10:35] <ActionParsnip> gartral: yes, read your command
[10:35] <kali_eskrima> @qin what is that command?
[10:35] <qin> kali_eskrima: just want to make sure you not using kali linux and hurting yourself
[10:35] <gartral> ActionParsnip: I forgot echo was a synonym for cat
[10:35] <ActionParsnip> gartral: by piping to 'sudo tee' it gets the access needed and can change the file
[10:35] <Rory> qin: "cat /etc/issue" is generally better because it outputs on one line
[10:35] <manson> hi
[10:35] <Rory> hello manson
[10:35] <ActionParsnip> gartral: its similar
[10:36] <rich97> Rory gartral: Yeah, thanks I get that. I'm just saying that it doesn't seem to do anything to remedy the situation.
[10:36] <kali_eskrima> sorry i meant to do it and i tought it would be easier to ask, but i better ask something more complicated which takes me long to fix it by myself.
[10:36] <kali_eskrima> what is kali linux?
[10:36] <Rory> kali_eskrima: It's getting a bit busy in here, and it seems you have a lot of questions about Ubuntu which aren't strictly support questions. Why not join #ubuntu-offtopic channel and talk about it there?
[10:36] <kali_eskrima> a program? and why would i hurt myself?
[10:36] <kali_eskrima> right
[10:36] <Rory> kali_eskrima: Kali is another distribution based on Ubuntu. Formally known as BackTrack, it's used for penetration testing
[10:36] <rich97> Still a permission denied on any write operations which is weird considering sudo and mode 0666
[10:37] <k1l> kali_eskrima: please put a "lsb_release -a" into a pastebin and show the link here
[10:37] <gartral> kali_eskrima: kali linux is another linux distrobution, and as such is outside the scope of the #ubuntu channel
[10:37] <manson> hi i have problem, i am not able to connect wifi on ubuntu, it says authentication required, even my wifi password is correct but i cant
[10:37] <Rory> rich97: Can you give me an example of a command you run to produce the error?
[10:37] <manson> can anyone know this problem
[10:37] <Rory> manson: What Ubuntu version are you using? And what is the model number of your wireless device, motherboard, or laptop?
[10:37] <rich97> Rory: ls > /dev/null
[10:37] <ActionParsnip> manson: what wifi chip are you using?
[10:37] <manson> its ubuntu 12.10
[10:37] <kali_eskrima> i see.
[10:38] <manson> i work here as a php programmer but now i want to work on ubuntu
[10:38] <kali_eskrima> ok will ask something more complicated, in the topic . i had something to ask, but i forgot for now. so will come back when i remember. thank you all for the help!!! i realy appreciated it all!
[10:39] <qin> kali_eskrima: Sorry, my bad, you Ubuntu
[10:39] <manson> i dont know chip type
[10:39] <manson> bez im not admin for this pc
[10:39] <kali_eskrima> yes i have ubuntu @qin
[10:39] <rich97> Rory: Sorry  I'm going to have to go, thanks for your help.
[10:39] <tdn> How do I get the Simple Scan program to work with my new HP LaserJet Pro 200 Color MFP printer (M276nw)? I have already installed hplip, however, Simple Scan says no scanner device was found.
[10:39] <Rory> tdn: What Ubuntu version?
[10:39] <manson> hello
[10:40] <k1l> !paste | kali_eskrima put the output of "lsb_release -a" in there
[10:40] <tdn> I have tried using xsane, however, it cannot find the scanner. I have tried attacing it directly via USB.
[10:40] <tdn> Rory, 12.04.
[10:40] <Rory> manson: Is it a laptop?
[10:40] <manson> bro its pc
[10:40] <Rory> manson: Is the wireless device USB?
[10:41] <manson> no, its wifi
[10:41] <Alex34543> Hi everybody, i would like to find the "Information Process Letters" Vol.8, I  don't know how to find it :(
[10:41] <kali_eskrima> @kil @qin sorry i dont understand what am i suppose to paste the output or put it... @@
[10:41] <Rory> manson: Is the wifi built into your computer or is it a separate device?
[10:41] <Rory> kali_eskrima: http://paste.ubuntu.com
[10:41] <k1l> kali_eskrima: read the message the bot gave you
[10:42] <tdn> Rory, any ideas?
[10:42] <manson> yeh its seperate
[10:42] <kali_eskrima> @oh yes for longer texts and pictures to use another window. ok got it
[10:42] <Rory> manson: If I wanted to buy one for myself, what would I have to search on AMazon to find it?
[10:42] <qin> k1l: his ctcp looks (X11; Ubuntu; Linux x86_64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/24.0
[10:43] <gueney_> Hello guys. I have accidentally pulled out my usb stick from my machine without umounting it. It still  remains in my /media/ folder and can be browsable to a certain degree. How can I remedy that? I have no  root privileges. It's a stick I occasionally use for work but also has confidential/private data on it... would very much prefer to not leave it browsable
[10:43] <Rory> qin: What k1l is getting at is, hes probably using Kali Linux and not Ubuntu#
[10:43] <manson> hello Rory
[10:43] <manson> pl help me out
[10:43] <ActionParsnip> gueney_: you can force unmount stuff
[10:43] <Rory> manson: Is there a sticker on it with a model number?
[10:43] <gueney_> ActionParsni: How/
[10:44] <Antioch> I want to change the permissions of a folder and all of its nested subfolders (but not files). Does using the chmod -R flag change the only the folders, or all folders+files?
[10:44] <Rory> Antioch: The latter
[10:44] <Antioch> Rory, any way to do only folders?
[10:44] <manson> its not my own wifi its university wifi
[10:44] <Rory> Antioch: use chmod -Rv to see
[10:44] <Rory> Antioch: yes hold on
[10:44] <Antioch> sorry, thank you.
[10:45] <qin> Antioch: chmod 0600 $(find . ! -type d), use with sens
[10:45] <manson> the another problem is from the top of bar, there is warning red mark occurred
[10:46] <Antioch> qin: thank you very much!
[10:46] <manson> when i clicked an error says, plz run package manager from right-click menu
[10:46] <qin> Antioch: or better yet, find . -type d -exec chmod 0600 {} \;
[10:46] <manson> hello Rory
[10:46] <Rory> Antioch:  find . -type d -exec chmod 666 {} \;
[10:46] <Rory> Antioch: replace 666 with whatever
[10:47] <Rory> manson: I can't help you unless I know what the actual wifi device is
[10:47] <gulag2013> qin, that is cool. Can you explain the first 0 in the 0600 ?
[10:47] <manson> ohh
[10:47] <tdn> How do I share a folder in Ubuntu 12.04 so that a printer can upload scanned files to it? I am guessing this is samba shares. How to do?
[10:47] <keanehsiao> hi, how can I use monit to check multiple processes with simple dsl something like "check process instance[0-100] with pid /file/loc/instance[0-100]"   ?
[10:47] <Antioch> Rory thanks, that's easier to understand :)
[10:47] <ActionParsnip> tdn: in nautilus, right click a folder and select share
[10:48] <tdn> ActionParsnip, do I need to set up any users or groups for this? I just want a world writable folder.
[10:48] <tdn> ActionParsnip, when I have shared a folder, then what? What address do I type in on the printer?
[10:48] <tdn> ActionParsnip, \\hostname\foldername?
[10:48] <Rory> manson: It will be on a sticker on the device itsself, or if you really don't know, you can run the command "sudo lsusb" and put the output on http://paste.ubuntu.com and I will work it out from that
[10:49] <tdn> ActionParsnip, what if several users share a folder with same name?
[10:49] <manson> ok, the error message comes top of bar: Opening the cache(could not open file /var/lib/dpkg/ status -open(13:permission denied)
[10:49] <ActionParsnip> tdn: depends on the OS you are uploading from. You can run:   sudo smbpasswd -a $USER    and create a samba username and password to authenticate with. Try it without
[10:49] <manson> can u fix tat probleme Rory plz
[10:49] <Rory> manson: I thought you were having issues with wifi? Can we deal with one at a time?
[10:50] <manson> yes but i dont know model of wifi
[10:50] <qin> gulag2013: More litteral: echo today is $(date), tomorrow will be $(date --date="+1 day")
[10:50] <Lachezar> Q: I have a RAID-1 defined in /etc/mdadm/mdadm.conf as /dev/md0, but upon reboot it shows as /dev/md127. How come?
[10:50] <manson> could u plz fix my next prob
[10:50] <Rory> manson: then can you put the output of the command "sudo lsusb" on http://paste.ubuntu.com and put the resulting URL in channel
[10:51] <manson> ok
[10:52] <gulag2013> qin, you went over my head. Is was asking about the 0 in the 0600. Is it a sticky bit or something like that. I'm new to permission.
[10:52] <tdn> ActionParsnip, the OS is an HP printer.
[10:52] <tdn> ActionParsnip, so something embedded.
[10:52] <manson> it tells me bus 001 Device 001:ID 1d6b:0002
[10:54] <qin> gulag2013: oh, mod?
[10:54] <qin> gulag2013: http://major.io/2007/02/13/chmod-and-the-mysterious-first-octet/
[10:54] <gulag2013> Is that what that is, so in that example did that help set only the directories and leave the file permissions the same.
[10:55] <gulag2013> Okay, thanks
[10:56] <Rory> manson: Can you pastebin the full output please?
[10:58] <manson> Rory , i am reinstalling ubuntu again
[10:58] <Rory> manson: No need
[10:58] <Rory> manson: It won't help
[10:59] <Rory> manson: I don't understand why you aren't helping me help you
[10:59] <Rory> manson: I'm starting to suspect you're a troll
[10:59] <manson> i cant bez im on another pc
[11:00] <Rory> manson: Unplug your Wireless USB dongle from your computer and hold it in your hand. Look at it, and see if there are words and numbers on it. Tell me what those words and numbers are
[11:01] <kali_eskrima> @ActionParsnip what did you said that was offtopic ubuntu? how do i type...sorry i was looking for it but i couldnt find it, to many entries.....
[11:01] <Rory> kali_eskrima: type "/join #ubuntu-offtopic"
[11:02] <z302> will hibernation resume work correctly if I have my swap partitions sitting inside LUKS encrypted volumes whose password is usually asked at boot?
[11:02] <Rory> z302: Works for me
[11:02] <z302> many thanks.
[11:03] <kali_eskrima> thanks rory.. what does it mean "you are a troll"? and can you please tell me what i should never try to type into the terminal? there was a text i saw once, and it said on the website to never put it in you terminal because its bad? and its troll a virus?
[11:03] <Rory> kali_eskrima: I wasn't suggesting you were a troll
[11:03]  * Lachezar had to update initramfs
[11:03] <k1l> kali_eskrima: for generall talk please ask in #ubuntu-offtopic
[11:03] <Rory> kali_eskrima: You should never run any command you don't understand
[11:04] <kali_eskrima> yes i know it wasnt for me. i just tought its a virus, ..
[11:04] <kali_eskrima> but there was one specific command. its ok will try to find it out.. google it :D haha
[11:04] <kali_eskrima> thanks ya'all.
[11:05] <Rasmus`> Sorry to barge in and ask a question right off the bat, but Ubuntu says it is unable to create a file in an apt-get install -f process because the disk is full - but it isn't.
[11:05] <Rasmus`> Any way to resolve this?
[11:05] <Rasmus`> (Or any idea what might be the reason for this behaviour?)
[11:05] <k1l> Rasmus`: please pastebin a "df -h"
[11:05] <kali_eskrima> @Rory btw just so you know, many times i dont know much of the commands i see on the website help. but i still run them becuase it seems they are related to the problem im experiencing.. hahah... im still a rookie in the terminal
[11:06] <Rasmus`> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/3118195/df.txt
[11:06] <Rory> kali_eskrima: Sometimes you can get a good idea for what a command does. And if you're unsure you can ask here
[11:06] <Rory> Rasmus`: Can you please pastebin the command you ran and the full output including the errors?
[11:07] <kali_eskrima> yeah, thanks will do. sometimes it does make sense for the command. like its an abbreviation of the word..
[11:08] <manson> ROry, i told u tat i am not admin, im user here i a dept
[11:08] <Rasmus`> Rory: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/3118195/Error.txt
[11:08] <the-noob> hi, how can I add Apache as a service?
[11:08] <Rory> manson: That doesn't stop you using your eyes
[11:08] <Rory> manson: Ignored
[11:08] <the-noob> each time I'm restarting the machine apache is stopped
[11:09] <Rory> the-noob: How did you install Apache?
[11:09] <k1l> Rasmus`: run"sudo apt-get autoremove" to free some space
[11:09] <the-noob> apt-get install
[11:09] <k1l> !rootirc > root____3
[11:09] <manson> before 3 hours my wifi was working but now its now
[11:09] <root____3> ok
[11:10] <manson> bez i type command for installing sound driver and to install apache 2 server
[11:10] <Rory> the-noob: "sudo apt-get install apache2" ?
[11:10] <k1l> Rasmus`: and do a "sudo apt-get autoclean" afterwards
[11:10] <conor1234567890> fff
[11:10] <the-noob> yes
[11:10] <kali_eskrima> @manson .... i dont know if this will help you but it did to me. my wifi was working and than i couldnt even select it from the menu. try this...  http://askubuntu.com/questions/139036/how-do-i-fix-a-wireless-is-disabled-by-hardware-switch-error
[11:10] <Rasmus`> k1l: I tried, but I get a similar error. https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/3118195/Error%20-%20Kopie.txt
[11:10] <Rory> the-noob: sudo update-rc.d apache2 enable
[11:11] <the-noob> did that, said it was added
[11:11] <the-noob> and it's not workin
[11:11] <k1l> Rasmus`: without "-f"
[11:11] <Rasmus`> I'm basically going in circles. I can't clear that weird dependency error because it says I don't have enough space, but to clear space I need those dependency errors fixed. At least that's what it looks like to me.
[11:11] <ActionParsnip> the-noob: what is the output of:  cat /etc/issue
[11:11] <Rory> the-noob: What's the output of "sudo service apache2 status" ?
[11:11] <ActionParsnip> Rasmus`: do you have /home on a separate partition?
[11:11] <Rory> ActionParsnip: his df -h is here https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/3118195/df.txt
[11:12] <the-noob> I've just started it again by hand
[11:12] <Rasmus`> k1l: I did both. Check again, I updated the file. (too lazy to create a new file for each error)
[11:12] <ActionParsnip> Rory: and the output of:    df -i
[11:12] <the-noob> let me restart
[11:12] <ActionParsnip> Rory: and the output of:  cat /etc/issue
[11:13] <badass> how can I automatically add users added with Winbind in AD to a local group?
[11:13] <Rory> ActionParsnip: I'm sure you don't mean me
[11:13] <ActionParsnip> Rory: who is it?
[11:13] <Rasmus`> It's-a me!
[11:13] <Rasmus`> I think.
[11:13] <Rory> ActionParsnip: Rasmus`
[11:13] <manson> ROry, i reinstall ubuntu
[11:13] <ActionParsnip> Rory: ty
[11:14] <manson> still, i cant connect wifi
[11:14] <ActionParsnip> Rasmus`: what is the output of:   df -i; cat /etc/issue
[11:14] <manson> ?
[11:14] <kali_eskrima> oh sorry Rory one more thing, can i ask here for help about how to create more than one partion? i already missed the installing part (when u can create partition) i didnt understand it. but now i would like to have at least two.. so can i ask here or in the offtopic window?
[11:14] <ActionParsnip> manson: what wifi chip are you using?
[11:14] <kali_eskrima> MANSON this you see the link i gave you? will it help your problem?
[11:14] <Rasmus`> ActionParsnip: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/3118195/df.txt
[11:14] <Rory> kali_eskrima: You can install and use the "gparted" application, but you can't resize the partition Ubuntu is currently on
[11:14] <manson> i dont know
[11:14] <Rory> ActionParsnip: Don't even go there
[11:14] <ActionParsnip> Rasmus`: you are out of inodes
[11:15] <ActionParsnip> manson: sudo lshw -C network     will tell you
[11:15] <ActionParsnip> Rasmus`: if you clear browser cache, it can help
[11:15] <Rasmus`> It's on a server, I'm not really using the browser (nor do I think it's even installed)
[11:15] <kali_eskrima> ooh ok... will look for more info on that,. thanks rory, i couldnt understand how to do it in the installation process...all that .dx. /.sv letters ...hmmm rookie :D
[11:15] <the-noob> Rory: Apache2 is NOT running.
[11:15] <ActionParsnip> Rasmus`: you need to free up inodes
[11:15] <Rory> the-noob: Can you start it with "sudo service apache2 start" ?
[11:16] <the-noob> yes
[11:16] <ActionParsnip> the-noob: what is the output of:   cat /etc/issue
[11:16] <Rory> kali_eskrima: If you boot froma LiveCD you can do partitioning from there, using the "gparted" program which is included
[11:16] <the-noob> 13.04
[11:16] <manson> Bus 001 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub
[11:16] <manson> Bus 002 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub
[11:16] <manson> Bus 003 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub
[11:16] <manson> Bus 004 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub
[11:16] <FloodBot1> manson: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:16] <the-noob> \n \l if it matters
[11:16] <ActionParsnip> manson: that's not what I said to run
[11:17] <Rory> ActionParsnip: It is what I asked him for about half an hour ago
[11:17] <Rory> ActionParsnip: Don't blame me though, I told him to use paste.ubuntu.com :P
[11:17] <kali_eskrima> @Rory i know that but i couldnt figure out how to do it.. there was a bunch of letters and spaces. and also an option to add a new partiotion and it wouldnt work... but ok will research more.. thanks!
[11:17] <Rasmus`> ActionParsnip: Thanks a bunch, I'll try to take it from here.
[11:17] <ActionParsnip> the-noob: run:   gksudo gedit /etc/rc.local    and above the 'exit 0' line, add: service apache2 start    save the new file, close gedit and reboot
[11:17] <Rasmus`> Thank you as well, Rory.
[11:18] <jayH> I'm having trouble installing the latest Pitivi 0.91, anyone here can help please?
[11:18] <Rory> jayH: What Ubuntu version are you using? How are you trying to install it?
[11:18] <Rory> jayH: What trouble are you having?
[11:18] <jayH> I'm compiling I think (new to Ubuntu) -missing a package I think, configure: error: Package requirements (cairo) were not met
[11:18] <the-noob> ActionParsnip: well, the entire story is that I'm using it in a VM with Vagrant
[11:19] <the-noob> and shell provisioning
[11:19] <the-noob> so I'll just add that ' apache2ctl start ' to the bootstrap.sh
[11:19] <ActionParsnip> the-noob: the command will run as root at startup and get the service running
[11:19] <ActionParsnip> jayH: where are you installing it from? What method are you using?
[11:20] <jayH> I ran ./configure which was fine till that point
[11:20] <jayH> It's the latest version, not in Software Centre yet
[11:20] <ActionParsnip> jayH: is there not a PPA?
[11:20] <jayH> I couldn't find one that was new
[11:21] <jayH> I like PPAs ;)
[11:21] <ActionParsnip> jayH: what is the output of:  cat /etc/issue
[11:21] <jayH> ActionParsnip, sorry what output?
[11:22] <ActionParsnip> jayH: of the command I just gave...
[11:22] <jayH> I ran the command ./configure, all dependencies met I think, no errors except:  checking for cairo... configure: error: Package requirements (cairo) were not met:
[11:23] <jayH> Ubuntu 13.04 \n \l
[11:25] <ActionParsnip> jayH: do you have python-cairo installed? may need python-cairo-dev too
[11:25] <jayH> ActionParsnip any luck?
[11:26] <ActionParsnip> jayH: with what?
[11:26] <jayH> I know I have Python, use it for blender, but not sure on the specifics
[11:27] <ActionParsnip> jayH: I gave you a package name, is it ionstalled?
[11:27] <jayH> sorry, how do I check if it's installed? New to Linux
[11:28] <ActionParsnip> jayH: use software centre, or install it using apt-get
[11:28] <ActionParsnip> jayH: neverused eithe rof those before?
[11:28] <jayH> ok
[11:28] <ActionParsnip> jayH: never used either of those before?
[11:29] <jayH> I have Python-cairo installed already - but not the dev, I'll install that then
[11:30] <jayH> I've used Software Centre obviously, but didn't know I'd find something so small in them - like I said, I'm new to linux/ubuntu
[11:31] <jayH> Nope - that didn't work either - still the same missing package
[11:31] <manson> hello
[11:31] <tengopreguntas1> i am using "dpkg-repack --generate" to build a package. is there a way i can know the name of the directory dpkg-repack created, so i can pass it to "dpkg --build" later on
[11:31] <CodeOmegaPrime> I have a ubuntu 13.04 running gnome with ati graphics. The problem is when I access activities everything begins to flash. Also when a program is open if it is not fullscreen it is unviewable. Any ideas of what coyld ge causing this behavior?
[11:31] <manson> Rory- i fixed the problem
[11:32] <manson> i didnt add my wifi network connection
[11:33] <manson> hi there ActionParsnip
[11:33] <manson> i fix problem
[11:33] <ntg-work> CodeOmegaPrime: are you on a laptop ?
[11:33] <CodeOmegaPrime> ntg-work no desktop
[11:34] <ntg-work> CodeOmegaPrime: ah right, have you installed the AMD drivers?
[11:34] <ActionParsnip> manson: cool
[11:34] <rchavik> hi, is there an fdisk-like CLI during install ?
[11:34] <CodeOmegaPrime> ntg-work yes I have
[11:34] <ActionParsnip> rchavik: fdisk is on the desktop install ISO
[11:35] <ntg-work> CodeOmegaPrime: lspci | grep VGA
[11:35] <ntg-work> pastebin the output
[11:35] <ntg-work> CodeOmegaPrime: also do "lshw -c video" and pastebin that as well
[11:35] <rchavik> ActionParsnip, are you saying the fdisk*.udeb file?
[11:35] <CodeOmegaPrime> OK
[11:36] <ActionParsnip> rchavik: if you run:    sudo fdisk /dev/sda    you will get fdisk access to the first drive.
[11:37] <rchavik> ActionParsnip, the system is not installed yet.. i want to clear out the partition table before the installer starts the partitioning program
[11:37] <manson> hello <ActionParsnip
[11:37] <manson> i m trying to install apache 2 server having command sudo apt-get install apache2
[11:38] <manson> but says error "unable to corect problems , have held broken packages"
[11:38] <CodeOmegaPrime> Ng-work http://paste.ubuntu.com/6208935
[11:38] <ActionParsnip> rchavik: then use gparted to wipe the MBR and you will have zero partitions, you can then run the installer
[11:38] <jrib> manson: pastebin full input and output
[11:38] <ActionParsnip> manson: then run:  sudo apt-get -f install
[11:39] <ntg-work> CodeOmegaPrime: 33mhz clock huh.. hmm
[11:39] <ntg-work> CodeOmegaPrime: can you try running glxgears and see if that causes any problems?
[11:39] <CodeOmegaPrime> Sure
[11:39] <manson> jrib
[11:40] <manson> where i gotta pastebin input and outtput
[11:40] <rchavik> ActionParsnip, yeah.. boot rescue first.. thanks
[11:40] <jrib> !pastebin | manson
[11:40] <CodeOmegaPrime> ng-work works fine as long as its fullscreen
[11:41] <CodeOmegaPrime> ng-work if its not fullscreen the window is grey an content is not rendered
[11:41] <ntg-work> hmm
[11:43] <ntg-work> I had that problem on one of my earlier laptops, I'm trying to remember how I fixed it
[11:43] <funkt> Hi there has anyone ever tried to use xml encryption software xmlsec1 in ubuntu?
[11:44] <CodeOmegaPrime> Should I attempt to remove video drivers and reinstall them?
[11:47] <kali_eskrima> @Rory hi, i have one quick question. maybe is nothing but i wasnt too sure what to do. so downloaded the gparted and i was reseraching online how to do partition after installed ubuntu. i entered this command to terminal (sudo fdisk -l) and it gave me specific list with one warning. please can you see in the link i give you? thank you very much.   http://paste.ubuntu.com/6208970/
[11:47] <funkt> does anyone know of any ubuntu xml encryption software?
[11:49] <qin> !abs | gulag2013
[11:49] <Rasmus`> Whee, fixing a problem in Ubuntu makes me so happy for some reason.
[11:49] <qin> gulag2013: sorry for waiting time, /j #bash will add too
[11:51] <gulag2013> qin, thats great. Thanks for the reply. I was having a long talk with myself if I should continue learning linux.
[11:52] <BananaBob> gine
[11:52] <Rory> kali_eskrima: You should use the graphical "gparted" utility  -you don't need to install it, it's already on the LiveCD
[11:53] <ActionParsnip> Rasmus`: its a challenge met, so all good :)
[11:53] <kali_eskrima> ok i saw it on the live cd but i didnt know what to do. thats why i did install gparted now. so can it damage my disk of current settings or i can just create without problems, another partition? did you saw the link i gave you?
[11:53] <ActionParsnip> kali_eskrima: you just updated it if you installed it :)
[11:54] <kali_eskrima> oh ok.. hmm
[11:54] <kali_eskrima> did you saw the link i gave? it says something about WARNING GPT..... etc
[11:54] <Rory> kali_eskrima: You should run gparted, then you can graphically resize partitions and create new ones
[11:55] <kali_eskrima> should i be concerned?
[11:55] <Rory> kali_eskrima: That's right, the command-line utility "fdisk" doesn't support the type of partition table you are using. It's not a problem
[11:55] <kali_eskrima> ok and gparted will not destroy my current setting, will just add /separate this big partition in two? right?
[11:56] <ActionParsnip> kali_eskrima: if you are concerned then ensure your backups are up to date
[11:56] <Rory> kimphill: It will do what you tell it to do
[11:56] <Rory> kali_eskrima: ^
[11:56] <Rory> (sorry kimphill )
[11:56] <ntg-work> CodeOmegaPrime: Sorry, I was away for a little while
[11:57] <kali_eskrima> i dont quite undertand what that meas "that it doesnt support the type of partiotion table used" but is ok, no need to know at the moment.
[11:57] <Rory> kali_eskrima: It will be pretty obvious once you open it, you can just right-click a partition and do "resize" and there's a slider
[11:57] <Rasmus`> ActionParsnip: I'm more of a beginner with Linux, and unfortunately I don't have many reasons to work with it in my daily routine. I have this little server running at home, doing some basic stuff. But since it's running almost.. too well, I never really have reason to work with it.
[11:57] <kali_eskrima> what is this that sign?^
[11:57] <Yowl> Someone here have knowledge of eCryptfs and/or other ecryption software/methods?
[11:57] <CodeOmegaPrime> ng-work np im just going to reinstall. Rwally wisg I knew what caused it
[11:57] <Rory> kali_eskrima: I meant it to get your attention to the message above. Just a little up-arrow
[11:58] <CodeOmegaPrime> Ng-work now I cannot even ligin to gnome
[11:58] <ntg-work> CodeOmegaPrime: ouch
[11:58] <kali_eskrima> oh ok thank you
[11:58] <CodeOmegaPrime> Ntg-work and I think I will upgrade the kernwl before I jnstall the ati driver's
[11:58] <kali_eskrima> how do you make my name sound, when you click on it. and i can hear you text me? what do you type?
[11:59] <ntg-work> CodeOmegaPrime: you can try that as well, what motherboard do you have?
[11:59] <ntg-work> do you have any onboard gfx?
[12:00] <CodeOmegaPrime> No the card is its own board
[12:00] <CodeOmegaPrime> Nope wrong its integrated
[12:00] <ntg-work> aaah right
[12:01] <ntg-work> where did you install the driver?
[12:01] <ntg-work> I mean, where did you get it from ?
[12:01] <CodeOmegaPrime> Ati
[12:01] <ntg-work> amd.com ?
[12:01] <CodeOmegaPrime> Used the proprietary
[12:01] <CodeOmegaPrime> Yup
[12:02] <ntg-work> Can you try using the driver manager and selecting the propertiary driver from there?
[12:03] <CodeOmegaPrime> I will after I reinstall I believe I went proprietary because it wouldnt install give me 20 to reinstall and lets see
[12:03] <jack> ntg-work, is "proprietary" a hard word?
[12:03] <jack> seems like it...
[12:03] <ActionParsnip> CodeOmegaPrime: the physical connectivity is irrelevant in any OS
[12:05] <_root_> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/19229985/fvwm-style-for-the-windows/19244269#19244269
[12:05] <_root_> does anybody know the answer?
[12:06] <kali_eskrima> @Rory what it means /dev/sda1; dev/sda2; dev/sda3? where should i do another partition? the first two are used (1st has 90mb; the 2nd has 675 gb) the 3rd is free.
[12:08] <TJ-> kali_eskrima: It might help for you to better understand disk partitioning. Take a look at this guide https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowtoPartition
[12:09] <kali_eskrima> thank you TJ
[12:09] <kali_eskrima> just one more thing, how do you select my name that will make a sound?
[12:11] <zwamkat> gordonjcp: Yep. I added both shares and gave them each their own credentials. I'm not sure it was necessary but it was sure useful for troubleshooting. Issue solved. Thanks for your help.
[12:12] <IdleOne> kali_eskrima: that is part of your irc client. when your nick is mentioned in a channel your client beeps you
[12:12] <kali_eskrima> oooh cool, ok so no special commands :D thanks
[12:20] <Neptu> Hej I want to buy some grafic card dongle for the laptop that works with linux, but seems the ones have been tested are out of the market at this point
[12:21] <Neptu> anyone know a usb graficard that Its supported?? maybe there is a compatibility list of hardware or chipset for ubuntu?
[12:24] <ActionParsnip> !hcl
[12:26] <barmmie> Good day guys
[12:26] <TJ-> Neptu: An alternative, if the laptop has an ExpressCard port, is to use an external ViDock with a full-size PCIe graphics adapter. I use one to add 4 screens (via an Nvidia NVS450) to the 2 screens my laptop's GPU can drive.
[12:27] <barmmie> Can anyone tell me how to uninstall aptana studio
[12:27] <root_> yup
[12:27] <ActionParsnip> barmmie: use software centre
[12:28] <ActionParsnip> barmmie: how did you install it?
[12:28] <barmmie> ActionParsnip: from the command line
[12:28] <ActionParsnip> barmmie: ok, what commands did you use?
[12:29] <ActionParsnip> barmmie: and what is the output of:  cat /etc/issue
[12:30] <barmmie> ActionParsnip Ubuntu 12.10 \n \l
[12:31] <barmmie> ActionParsnip: Ubuntu 12.10 \n \l
[12:32] <ActionParsnip> barmmie: did you use this guide: http://www.samclarke.com/2012/12/how-to-install-aptana-studio-3-3-1-in-ubuntu-12-10-quantal-quetzal/
[12:34] <barmmie> ActionParsnip: Yes!
[12:34] <ActionParsnip> barmmie: then reverse the steps.....
[12:35] <barmmie> ActionParsnip: Would try that. Thanks!
[12:36] <ActionParsnip> barmmie: sudo rm -r /opt/Aptana_Studio_3 /opt/Aptana_Studio_3.xpm /usr/share/applications/SC-AptanaStudio.desktop
[12:36] <ActionParsnip> barmmie: if you READ the install script you ran, it shows exactly what was put where, so you can undo it
[12:39] <barmmie> ActionParsnip: No such file or directory
[12:40] <ActionParsnip> barmmie: read the script you ran....
[12:40] <ActionParsnip> barmmie: you could even search your file system for the files named
[12:40] <barmmie> ActionParsnip: Doing that now...
[12:41] <ActionParsnip> barmmie: not obvious enough?
[12:42] <amandabee> my laptop keeps crashing. It shuts down with a poof.
[12:42] <amandabee> I'm running 12.04
[12:42] <amandabee> I'm trying to figure out where to look to diagnose this
[12:42] <ActionParsnip> amandabee: have you tested your RAM using memtest from Grub?
[12:42] <Chef> How far are you getting into the boot process?
[12:42] <amandabee> ActionParsnip: nope.
[12:42] <ActionParsnip> amandabee: itd be a good start
[12:43] <amandabee> Chef: well, I'm booted now, though I'm using IRSSI from TTY 3  which seems less fussy
[12:43] <barmmie> ActionParsnip: It was removed already and i was still running the command! Thanks!!
[12:44] <amandabee> is there a log file I should be looking at? Last time I saw a flash of a shutdown message
[12:44] <amandabee> so it knew it was going down
[12:44] <Chef> /var/log/boot, I think
[12:44] <brownie> am very new in ths
[12:44] <brownie> ...any guideline
[12:45] <amandabee> Chef: "(nothing has been logged yet)"
[12:45] <Chef> Whoops, boot.log
[12:46] <slipky> i have a ubuntu server 12.04 running openldap and cups ... it is possible to make a windows client be prompt with ldap authentication every time that it send a job to a printer?
[12:47] <Yowl> Anyone here know of eCryptfs and or other encryption methods etc?
[12:47] <Chef> Yowl, I use ecryptfs.
[12:48] <Chef> I've never had a need for full-disk encryption like luks or dm-crypt, though.
[12:48] <Yowl> Chef:  It is a type of FS, doesn't that mean it makes a quasi partition?
[12:48] <Yowl> Chef: Since you can't have more then one FS on a partition, right?
[12:49] <Chef> I think it does, but I'm not an expert.
[12:49] <Yowl> Chef: Is the space within eCrypts static  like a partition, or expand and contract according to contents within?
[12:50] <Chef> I think the default is static.. To be honest, I don't remember much about my setup of ecrypt
[12:51] <zexcriz> i don't remember exactly what i did but i messed the  permissions of apache, right now i am getting an error as /var/lock/apache2 already exists but is not a directory owned my zexcriz.
[12:51] <TJ-> Yowl: eCryptfs is a stacked file-system, it doesn't work on the block level, but on a per-directory/per-file basis.
[12:51] <helmut_> hi
[12:52] <Yowl> TJ-: I am not sure what you mean/how that applies to what I was asking about
[12:52] <TJ-> Yowl: The encrypted homes on Ubuntu live at /home/.ecryptfs/$USER/
[12:53] <Yowl> TJ-: So is it a FS or not? Does it expand and contract according to content amount or not?
[12:53] <TJ-> Yowl: There is no 'partition' set aside for it... it works above an existing blocked file-system, hence it is called 'stacked' since the file-systems stack one on top of another
[12:55] <Yowl> TJ  Does it expand and contract according to content amount or is the space within set/static?
[12:55] <MonkeyDust> hi, this the playce for obuntu questyons?
[12:55] <Chef> It expands/contracts according to content.
[12:55] <TJ-> Yowl: Your question makes no sense in relation to ecryptfs.
[12:55] <Chef> Although expansion/contraction are weird words
[12:55] <IdleOne> MonkeyDust: ?
[12:55] <Yowl> Well I would be glad to use less weird words, if I had them
[12:56] <fishcooker> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6209190/
[12:56] <TJ-> Yowl: When ecryptfs is in use, it writes each file/directory that is encrypted to a file/directory that is encrypted, in the underlying file system. Each encrypted file will have a size in relation to the unencrypted version
[12:57] <Yowl> Chef: So can actively get into and lock up ecrypts contents without having to relog?
[12:57] <TJ-> Yowl: Real example might help you here...
[12:57] <fishcooker> is it about the locale error?
[12:57] <fishcooker> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6209190/
[12:57] <TJ-> Yowl: The /home/ file-system on my current system uses ext4 block-level file-system.
[12:58] <TJ-> Yowl: When I chose to encrypt my home directory (/home/tj/) ecryptfs created a new directory (/home/.ecryptfs/tj/).
[12:59] <TJ-> Yowl: Before I log-in the only things in /home/tj/ are maker files saying my home directory is encrypted. After I log-in ecryptfs reads all the directories and files in /home/.ecryptfs/tj/.Private/ and creates their unencrypted versions in /home/tj/
[12:59] <TJ-> s/maker files/marker files/
[13:01] <blurkis> I just tried gnome  3.10 on ubuntu 3.10 (yes, i know its still in development) and there seems to be no way to change theme for applications..? how do I do that in gnome 3.10?
[13:01] <cebor> when i move a window with (shift + ctrl + alt + cursor) to a other desktop, is it a know bug, that the animation is very ugly in 13.04 ?
[13:01] <Yowl> TJ-: So the content is encypted and unencrypted via log in? I can't actively lock or unlock said encypted content?
[13:01] <TJ-> Yowl: As those files are written to the encrypted versions are updated during the write, so eCryptFS presents a 'view' of unencrypted files but they don't really exist, it just transparently decrypts/encrypts the files in /home/.ecryptfs/ttj/.Private/ as I access them
[13:02] <TJ-> Yowl: Sure you can. You can unlink the login scripts that mount ecryptfs and handle it manually if you want to
[13:03] <TJ-> Yowl: If the ecryptfs pass-phrase gets out of sync with your user  password you'll log-in to find none of the expected files in /home/$USER/, for example.
[13:03] <shomon> hiya, I was copying stuff and the computer got unplugged and now that drive won't mount..
[13:03] <shomon> it gives me this message: http://pastebin.com/jJUJTfR0
[13:04] <Yowl> TJ-: So I can have my encrypted content unlocked and remain unlockthrough multiple logins and outs, and visa versa, I can have it locked and remain locked with multiple logins and outs?
[13:04] <shomon> I don't have windows but I could make a hiren's boot cd and boot from it perhaps.
[13:04] <Yowl> well, visa versa was the wrong word there
[13:06] <shomon> is there an ubuntu way to fix the problem? a unix way even?
[13:07] <Yowl> Chef:  Do you know?
[13:08] <Chef> I don't, sorry.
[13:08] <Chef> I encrypt, then decrypt after using it.
[13:08] <Yowl> Chef: Don't you mean the other way around?
[13:09] <Chef> Yes, sorry.
[13:09] <Yowl> Chef: And you decrypt by logging in as X user?
[13:09] <Chef> I don't know if there's a way to preserve its state if you log in or out.
[13:09] <Chef> No, using commandline.
[13:09] <Chef> ecryptfs-mount-private and ecryptfs-umount-private
[13:10] <Yowl> Chef: So you log in, run  a command line with password. It descrypts. What would happen if you restarted your PC, would it be crypted or unencrypted?
[13:11] <Chef> Crypted.. I think.
[13:11] <Chef> Lemme test it.
[13:12] <dandan_> I am trying to run a MAKE command to compile a kernel for my Samsung phone. I have to correct cross-compile toolchain and it works, however I keep getting this error message: http://pastie.org/8386593 I am on Ubuntu 12.04. The weird thing is, this ONLY HAPPENS, when I have ran sudo apt-get upgrade. If I leave all packages not upgraded, then MAKE works fine. This only happened after upgrading all packages (after initial install from the 
[13:13] <Chef> Yowl, it's crypted
[13:14] <Yowl> thanks
[13:14] <dandan_> Does anyone know why my MAKE command won't work?
[13:14] <Chef> What are you compiling? What does it report?
[13:15] <dandan_> I am trying to run a MAKE command to compile a kernel for my Samsung phone. I have to correct cross-compile toolchain and it works, however I keep getting this error message: http://pastie.org/8386593 I am on Ubuntu 12.04. The weird thing is, this ONLY HAPPENS, when I have ran sudo apt-get upgrade. If I leave all packages not upgraded, then MAKE works fine. This only happened after upgrading all packages (after initial install from the 
[13:16] <Yowl> Chef So what happens with encrypted content if you delete your current version/distro of linux and make a new one?
[13:16] <Chef> For me, it's deleted
[13:17] <Chef> I think you can copy over ~/.ecryptfs
[13:17] <Chef> I'm not sure
[13:17] <Yowl> Chief All the encrypted content within would be deleted?
[13:17] <dandan_> Chef: I am trying to compile a kernel for my Samsung Galaxy Note 3. I was able to successfully do this until I upgraded all my packages and then I started getting the error shown here: http://pastie.org/8386593
[13:18] <Chef> dandan_: What packages are being updated between the upgrade?
[13:18] <Chef> Yowl, truecrypt allows you to have a portable encrypted container
[13:19] <TJ-> dandan_: Show us /home/dan/android/kernel/arch/arm/include/asm/stackprotector.h
[13:19] <qbalazs> Quick probably strange question, but does anyone know where an up to date "rpm-ized" version of debootstrap could be found?
[13:19] <TJ-> dandan_: The likely cause is, your build script is including system include files that have #defines that are affecting your build
[13:20] <Yowl> Chef:  What differences are there between truecrypt and eCryptfs?
[13:20] <TJ-> truecrypt is a block-level system the same as dm-crypt
[13:21] <Yowl> TJ-: And what does block level system mean?
[13:22] <TJ-> Yowl: block devices... those that allocate space in blocks (usually sectors)
[13:22] <dandan_> Here is the file stackprotector.h http://pastie.org/8386625
[13:22] <TJ-> dandan_: thanks
[13:23] <TJ-> dandan_: Do you see the error? Your make fails with a report of an unexpected semi-colon on line 32. "canary ^= LINUX_VERSION_CODE;" ... which tells me that LINUX_VERSION_CODE has not been defined and is null/empty
[13:24] <dandan_> Why has LINUX VERSION CODE not been defined when previously it must have been defined if I could MAKE okay?
[13:25] <TJ-> dandan_: That file is including "#include <linux/version.h>" which, because of the <> markers, it will look for in the system include directory /usr/include/
[13:25] <Yowl> TJ-: Meaning the Encrypted space is set, like a partition?
[13:25] <TJ-> dandan_: So check /usr/include/linux/version.h
[13:26] <TJ-> Yowl: forget the partition, it is a file-system - it could live inside a file (if it is loopback mounted) as in, for example, virtualised systems
[13:27] <nrdb> I have just setup a KVM with libvirt :-) ... now I want to add a bridge in the host just for the VMs to use (i.e. not connected to the LAN) .... how can I do this?
[13:28] <compdoc> nrdb, a virtual network should already exist
[13:28] <ikonia> nrdb: that is setup by default on the private lan
[13:28] <dandan_> TJ-: The contents of usr/include/linux/version.h is: #define LINUX_VERSION_CODE 197170 #define KERNEL_VERSION(a,b,c) (((a) << 16) + ((b) << 8) + (c))
[13:28] <TJ-> dandan_: My bet is, you've not set the include directories correctly in your build scripts and instead of reading the "linux/version.h" relative to your Android kernel source-code root directory, they're reading from the host system
[13:29] <nrdb> compdoc, it does but it has a dhcp etc.. allready going on it, and NATs to the internet... I don't want this.
[13:29] <asandyz> hi
[13:29] <TJ-> dandan_: Best thing to do is capture make's build messages to a log-file and review it to check
[13:29] <Yowl> TJ-: Is the space within set, like a partitions is?
[13:29] <compdoc> nrdb, you can create another virtual net without nat. called isolated
[13:29] <compdoc> or delete teh default and recreate it
[13:30] <asandyz> can anybody say where i can find irc channel for bash programming?
[13:30] <TJ-> Yowl: I suggest you read up on operating system fundamentals regarding block devices and encryption, these questions really are outside Ubuntu support
[13:30] <dandan_> TJ-: I am running this Ubuntu in a Virtualbox virtual machine. The makefile was already generated by Samsung so I just followed their instructions to build (which are short, just ARCH=arm and then set the def_config file and then "make" and all should work, which it was doing, but now not
[13:30] <k1l> !alis | asandyz
[13:30] <nrdb> compdoc, ok ... but how do I setup /etc/network/interfaces to do that... I have tried a couple of guesses but they didn't work.
[13:31] <asandyz> ubottu:  thanks
[13:31] <ikonia> nrdb: you don't need to do anything
[13:31] <TJ-> dandan_: Sorry, I can't help you much more on that. My advice, as always, is capture the logs and read them and the error messages, and then work back to figure out why the bad state could have occurred
[13:31] <ikonia> nrdb: libvirt already has a private lan setup when you install it
[13:31] <asandyz> ubottu: :D
[13:31] <ikonia> nrdb: use the libvirt interface to make an internal network if that's not what you want
[13:31] <compdoc> nrdb, I use virt-manager for that. you only need to set up /etc/network/interfaces if you have a seperate nic, or need to create a bridge to the real lan
[13:32] <dandan_> TJ-: Okay, thanks, I am going to capture the output and have a look at that
[13:32] <nrdb> ikonia, yes I know.. but it isn't suitable.
[13:32] <ikonia> nrdb: how is it not suitable ? what's wrong with it
[13:33] <TJ-> dandan_: As I said earlier, the root cause is that LINUX_VERSION_CODE is NOT being defined, and you know the file where it *should* be defined, so focus on which file in the file-system is being read at that point and what its contents are.
[13:33] <nrdb> compdoc, oh.... I didn't know that was there...
[13:33] <nrdb> compdoc, I will get back to you if I have trouble..
[13:34] <nrdb> ikonia, the default is NATed to the internet ... I wanted an isolated one
[13:34] <ikonia> nrdb: it doesn't have to be - it's one flag to change it
[13:34] <dandan_> TJ-: Do you have any idea why upgrading packages after initial distro install would break this? And why it worked previous to this?
[13:34] <dean> Hey guys what ca bundle does curl use in Ubuntu? I'm trying to add a new certificate and it doesn't seem to be picking it up.
[13:34] <dandan_> TJ-: Just curious why it broke is all
[13:35] <asandyz> Hp cooling technology , is it useable by ubuntu?
[13:35] <ikonia> asandyz: has it is controlled/managed ?
[13:35] <asandyz> i dint get it
[13:35] <ikonia> asandyz: how is it used, is it a hardware device, a software device,
[13:36] <TJ-> dandan_: The only thing I can imagine that'd be obvious is if a new linux-headers packages is installed
[13:36] <asandyz> ikonia:  its hardware device, came with Hp ( win8) pre installed
[13:36] <dandan_> I think that is what happened!
[13:36] <ikonia> asandyz: so what is the device called, does it have linux support ?
[13:37] <Yowl> TJ-: Just is the space within when using truecrypt flexible or static, yes or no?
[13:38] <dandan_> TJ-: LINUX_VERSION_CODE   IS defined in that file, so why is it saying its not?
[13:38] <ikonia> why is this anything to do with ubuntu ?
[13:40] <TJ-> dandan_: If that is the case I suspect your build script is picking up a new header file. Try this, to find any system-level versions: "ls  /lib/modules/*/build/include/linux/version.h"
[13:40] <dilan> hola
[13:41] <dandan_> TJ-: I get this output: ls: cannot access /lib/modules/*/build/include/linux/version.h: No such file or directory
[13:42] <TJ-> dandan_: OK, so that file doesn't exist in the system... might explain your issue, *if* that is the one your build script expects. You really need to ask the build-script creators/maintainers though.
[13:43] <dilan> hi
[13:43] <Yowl> TJ-: Did you see my question?
[13:43] <dilan> hello
[13:43] <tmacfalcon> bloody monday
[13:44] <TJ-> Yowl: I told you earlier, you need to go do our own research if it is important. It is not an Ubuntu related support issue.
[13:45] <dandan_> TJ-: Ok, well I doubt I will get a response from Samsung any time soon.. Do you have any suggestions to fix it?
[13:45] <Yowl> TJ-: Just looking for a simple yes/no as to whether the space is static. It is something I am trying to do with ubuntu, even if it might not be something specific with ubuntus files. And it would take you less time to answer then it would to say that
[13:46] <TJ-> dandan_: Find other people in the Android community that are using that same source-code bundle
[13:46] <dandan_> TJ-: When I run apt-get upgrade, I get this: The following packages have been kept back:   linux-headers-generic-lts-raring linux-image-generic-lts-raring 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 2 not upgraded.
[13:46] <TJ-> dandan_: Try using "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"
[13:46] <dilan> quien habla español
[13:47] <dandan_> TJ-: Could that be why I have issues?
[13:47] <TJ-> !es | dilan
[13:47] <TJ-> dandan_: Well yes, since the linux-headers packages contain that file amongst others :)
[13:48] <dandan_> TJ-: Silly linux, why does it hold back those two updates?
[13:48] <TJ-> dandan_: But there's something wrong with your build environment if the host's include files are being read. The only files that should be read are the Android device's kernel source tree!
[13:48] <TJ-> dandan_: apt holds back anything that is a "new" package - i.e., not just an existing package with a version update.
[13:49] <dilan> quit
[13:50] <dandan_> TJ-: Thank you for all the help. Do you have any advice or resources on setting up a build environment? I've followed some tutorials from XDA and other sites to setup an Android build environment and it was working until my apt-get upgrade.
[13:50] <TJ-> dandan_: XDA is the place if any
[13:51] <TJ-> dandan_: I wrote on article on cross-building for Android on Ubuntu a while back. It may not be entirely up-to-date but it might help you: http://tjworld.net/wiki/Linux/Kernel/ARMCrossCompileOnIntel
[13:52] <dandan_> TJ-: I just looked in my kernel source tree, under include/linux/version.h and indeed #define LINUX_VERSION_CODE is blank :/
[13:53] <TJ-> dandan_: That explains it then :) do a "grep -rn LINUX_VERSION_CODE *.h" starting at the root of your Android kernel source tree, see which if any files mention it
[13:59] <nyker> what versions of ios are supported in ubuntu 13.04?
[13:59] <ikonia> none
[13:59] <ikonia> there is no official apple support
[13:59] <fidel> ios as in cisco or ios as in apple?
[13:59] <fidel> ;)
[13:59] <ep103> so when I install now, I don't specify root / home / swap sizes?
[13:59] <deibuji>  hi guys, i have a vm running under KVM, and i've created a new virtio disk drive, which i've created the partition and file system for, will mount if I manually mount it, but it won't mount it automatically if I mount it using fstab. i'm using labels to mount the disk in fstab
[13:59] <nyker> how about ifuse and libmobiledevice?
[14:00] <ikonia> deibuji: mount it where, in the host or the guest ?
[14:00] <deibuji> ikonia: sorry, should have said, in the guest
[14:00] <ikonia> deibuji: what's the error ?
[14:01] <deibuji> ikonia: there is no error
[14:01] <ikonia> deibuji: then it's mounted
[14:01] <deibuji> ikonia: it isn't. i've checked mount and it doesn't show
[14:02] <deibuji> ikonia: i've also done mount -a and I get no errors
[14:02] <ikonia> deibuji: can you pastebin your fstab from the guest please.
[14:03] <kostkon> nyker, raring has libimobiledevice3 1.1.4. you could check which devices are supported bu that version
[14:03] <kostkon> !info libimobiledevice3 raring
[14:03] <deibuji> ikonia: i think i might have just done a massive noob mistake... i've mounted the other driver as /
[14:03] <deibuji> drive(
[14:04] <zhaolu> hello
[14:04] <zhaolu> ?
[14:05] <zhaolu> anyboby?
[14:05] <Funkt> hi there anyone know how i can make the thumbs bigger in the file browser
[14:05] <DJones> !anybody | zhaolu
[14:06] <fidel> !ask | zhaolu
[14:06] <deibuji> ikonia: sorry about that. i feel like one of my users! cheers :)
[14:10] <foofoobar> Hi. I just got a new notebook with ubuntu. It has a HD screen, so all content is really small. I remember there was some feature on apples osx where you can "adapt" content to retina (so it looks bigger)
[14:10] <foofoobar> Is there such a feature for ubuntu, too ?
[14:11] <ikonia> foofoobar: what is the resolution of the screen ?
[14:12] <CTravain> ciao
[14:13] <foofoobar> ikonia, 1920x1080 I think
[14:13] <foofoobar> There is no option to set it lower
[14:13] <deibuji> lol yep, rebooted and it's there cheers ikonia .was looking at it and thinking 'what have I done wrong?! where's the error message'. cheers.:)
[14:14] <ikonia> foofoobar: just increase the font size,
[14:15] <amunoz>  Hi, Can someone who is using gnome 3.10 and the gnome-tweak-tool reproduce this bug?
[14:15] <amunoz> https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=709597
[14:15] <pgib> Hello. I have an Ubuntu machine where the display goes "out of range" immediately after posting, I don't even see a Grub prompt or kernel uncompress.
[14:15] <pgib> Unfortunately, there is no SSH server running either.  Any nifty ways to get it to boot with a normal 80x25 char video mode?
[14:16] <foofoobar> ikonia, ok, I will try
[14:16] <dandan_> TJ-: I have added the linux version code to kernel_source_tree/include/linux/version.h and I am still getting the same MAKE error on line 32 of stackprotector.h
[14:17] <hermeneuticdue> hihi
[14:17] <lucenut> Anyone here dabbled with ubuntu-touch?
[14:18] <foofoobar> ikonia, where do I increase the font size?
[14:19] <foofoobar> Is there some general setting for this?
[14:19] <lsvr> universal access, large font button?
[14:19] <ikonia> foofoobar: is there nothing in the settings on this ?
[14:19] <lsvr> dash,universal,select large fonts
[14:21] <foofoobar> ok
[14:21] <foofoobar> this looks a bit strange, cause window title etc. keep the same
[14:21] <TJ-> dandan_: Which suggests that's not the file your build scripts are actually reading. You'll need to enable make debug logging and trace which files are being read, and correct any errors in the tree root being assumed
[14:22] <lsvr> foofoobar: logging out and in again may fix that (can't remember)
[14:23] <foofoobar> ok I try, ty
[14:23] <zexcriz> can i have multiple instance of ubuntu running side by side ?
[14:23] <zexcriz> same version 13.04 ?
[14:24] <TJ-> foofoobar: I think the setting you need is the one that adjusts the DPI (dots per inch) but like so many other useful features, Gnome-settings and Unity have removed them from the GUIs so you'll need to find and change them using dconf-editor, if they still exist
[14:26] <dandan_> TJ-: How do I enable make debug logging?
[14:27] <TJ-> dandan_: I think you need to immerse yourself in the build system documentation, to understand it... make especially, but also gcc and the kernel's specific build system. You're out of your depth right now.
[14:28] <hay> hi all.. is there a way to add a patch file to a installed package via "apt-get install" command? Or do I have to compile and install app from source?
[14:28] <dandan_> TJ-:  Ok I appreciate that, any idea on a starting point?
[14:29] <pgib> meh.. no ideas on this video issue? I was hoping there might be some key to smash for Grub to make it use a more normal graphics mode
[14:29] <TJ-> dandan_: XDA of course, the AOSP web-site has some great tutorials on building Android, and the ##linux channel here might help
[14:29] <pgib> blindly editing kernel boot lines doesn't seem practical. I guess I need to try booting from another device
[14:30] <TJ-> pgib: If you can get to the GRUB boot menu with the shift key held down, you can add "nomodeset" to the kernel's command line
[14:30] <dandan_> TJ-: Thank you for your help... You can understand my frustration when at first it worked, I compiled a working kernel that booted on my Galaxy Note 3, and then I update Ubuntu and it breaks :(
[14:30] <pgib> ok, shift key will cause grub to be interactive? thanks TJ-
[14:31] <TJ-> pgib: If the screen is out-of-range when BIOS/firmware hands over to GRUB, that suggests the BIOS/firmware has put the GPU into graphics mode, and therefore check the settings in BIOS/firmware
[14:31] <semitones> I think my flash drive is broken. fdisk says /dev/sdb is read only. What else could cause this?
[14:31] <semitones> (btw I don't have any important data on it)
[14:31] <TJ-> dandan_: Yeah... I think actually you were 'lucky' in that the Ubuntu linux-headers happened to match what the build system was looking for
[14:32] <pgib> TJ-, Ok, I'll check that too. If I choose an incorrect device to boot from, then I do at least get the blinking cursor at row 0 col 0 after bootstraping
[14:33] <TJ-> pgib: I suspect GRUB is configured to use graphics mode and uses the wrong one. If you can boot once, edit /etc/default/grub and enable "GRUB_TERMINAL=console" then "sudo update-grub"
[14:35] <pgib> Yeah, I'll see if the Shift key trick works, otherwise I'll boot from a Live CD, edit /etc/default/grub as you mention (thanks, I would have missed that one) and menu.lst or whatever to make sure the kernel mode is right too
[14:35] <schnitzl> hi. what is the smartest way to make an image of a win ssd. i googled. partimage does not work (experimental ntfs support), dd seems NOT to be an good idea because it writes 0 blocks and i use an ssd. any ideas? (i could use clonezilla, but since i have a running ubuntu partiotion i dont want to prepare another usb drive)
[14:35] <pgib> schnitzl wait.. you want to make an image file from a SSD device?
[14:35] <TJ-> pgib: If the system has grub2 then there is no menu.lst. The "update-grub" regenerates "/boot/grub/grub.cfg"
[14:36] <schnitzl> pgib,  exactly. like a backup image from a windows ssd.
[14:36] <pgib> schnitzl, so what is wrong with dd?
[14:36] <schnitzl> it writes,as far as i read, all the blocks, even if they are unused (0), which is not good for ssd devices.
[14:36] <TJ-> schnitzl: Using dd, look at the "sparse" option that seeks over NUL blocks
[14:37] <pgib> I don't see why zero blocks are a problem unique to SSD though...
[14:37] <schnitzl> i must have overread this... i should do my homework better :) thanks.
[14:37] <pgib> you are just reading, ==
[14:37] <OerHeks> pgib +1
[14:37] <schnitzl> its mentioned especially int he german ubuntu wiki
[14:37] <schnitzl> with a big "!"
[14:37] <pgib> perhaps writing zero blocks to a SSD is dumb, but I don't see a problem with reading
[14:38] <schnitzl> well. pgib someday...i have to write it back...
[14:38] <semitones> can I find out why /dev/sdb is read only?
[14:39] <pgib> then you use sparse when dd'ing from the image to the disk
[14:39] <pgib> you don't really need it when reading
[14:39] <schnitzl> ok, perfect. thanks mate.
[14:39] <schnitzl> dd if=/dev/sdb | gzip > ~/image-compress_sdb.img.gz   this makes sense, does it?
[14:40] <TJ-> Errr, yes you might want it on reading! So that the back-up image file is sparse... saves space
[14:40] <ikonia> schnitzl: no
[14:40] <pgib> schnitzl, I'd probably set a blocksize
[14:40] <schnitzl> okay okay. so i want it on reading too..?! :((
[14:40] <ikonia> and an "outfile"
[14:40] <pgib> ikonia, it doesn't need of=
[14:40] <pgib> it writed to stdout by default
[14:40] <ikonia> pgib: does it ?
[14:40] <pgib> afaik, yes
[14:40] <schnitzl> haha.
[14:41] <pgib> otherwise you couldn't make a pipeline
[14:41] <TJ-> schnitzl: Unless you don't mind the file you're creating containing a lot of nothing (if the source device has a lot of emptiness)
[14:41] <ikonia> pgib: ahh tht's true,
[14:41] <pgib> or, you'd need something like -of=--
[14:41] <schnitzl> TJ-, i dont want that. dont have space to waste
[14:41] <pgib> I mean of=--
[14:41] <MangaKaDenza> allright
[14:41] <MangaKaDenza> So I want to play wma files
[14:41] <MangaKaDenza> in rythymbox
[14:41] <MangaKaDenza> or whatever
[14:42] <MangaKaDenza> but it dont work none
[14:42] <pgib> TJ-, the image is being gzipped, that should nicely compress most of those runs of zero bytes, no?
[14:43] <TJ-> pgib: If writing to stdout ... not sure how sparse would work :D
[14:43] <pgib> TJ-, but he just needs to sparse when writing
[14:43] <TJ-> pgib: schnitzl sparse is probably a Non-Op for stdout
[14:43] <asdf999> Hello everybody, can somebody please explain why I'm getting black screen (fivth time) when trying to install drivers for AMD 7950, tried via software center and terminal (but via proptiery drivers and open tested) on Xubuntu 13.04
[14:43] <osakasa> hello, when you get a lot of bug report about rhythbox crashes after playing one song (:D) in ubuntu 13.10, it can be fixed by setting crossfade duration and time 0,0 seconds
[14:43] <OerHeks> MangaKaDenza, wma+drm might not play, check it with VLC
[14:44] <osakasa> well "fix" but that helps you to play even more than one song
[14:44] <OerHeks> !13.10 | osakasa
[14:44] <MangaKaDenza> :>
[14:44] <MangaKaDenza> hmm
[14:44] <MangaKaDenza> wat aboot mp4 ?
[14:44] <schnitzl> and just plain and simple dd if=/dev/sda of=/dev/sdb TJ- pgib and all the others :D
[14:45] <pgib> TJ-, I was thinking  dd if=/dev/foo bs=1024 | gzip > foo.img ; then later: gunzip foo.img | dd of=/dev/bar bs=1024 sparse
[14:45] <TJ-> schnitzl: for writing to another block device, using "sparse" and something like "bs=100M" would be optimum
[14:46] <TJ-> schnitzl: Make the block-size as large as RAM allows, I've used 2G before now for moving TB-sized images about effeciently
[14:46] <pgib> hmm.. but wouldn't that require a run of 100M zeros to be considered a zero block?
[14:46] <schnitzl> what does the block size make? like the size of the files copied?
[14:46] <pgib> thus, sparse wouldn't be as effective
[14:46] <pgib> I'd pick the block size used natively by the SSD's controller personally
[14:46] <schnitzl> i have 8gb ram. the disk i want to clone is a new plain and simple win8.1 installation..maybe 10 gigs?? not sure.
[14:47] <TJ-> schnitzl: Larhe block-size means the read operation can vacuum up loads of sectors in one operation (resulting in multi-sector reads)
[14:47] <lesshaste> what is the ubuntu dev channel?
[14:47] <pgib> but, it also means that one byte set in a 100M region will still cause 100M minus one byte of zeros to be written
[14:47] <TJ-> lesshaste: The place where Ubuntu OS developers and packages communicate
[14:47] <lesshaste> go tit
[14:49] <asdf999> Hello everybody, can somebody please explain why I'm getting black screen (fivth time) when trying to install drivers for AMD 7950, tried via software center and terminal (but via proptiery drivers and open tested) on Xubuntu 13.04
[14:49] <TJ-> pgib: I thought that dd's "sparse" flag simply sets the sparse flag on the underlying target block device
[14:51] <pgib> TJ-, according to my man page, it causes dd to seek the write file past blocks of null bytes
[14:51] <lesshaste> what is happening with xpdf? It is 100% broken in 13.04  but this doesn't seem to be urgent . is it now deprecated as a pdf viewer?
[14:51] <pgib> thus, if you are working with the SSD's native block size, that seek would probably prevent the SSD's controller from allocating a block
[14:52] <mgedmin> xpdf is in universe; it was never officially supported
[14:52] <mgedmin> you do not like Evince?
[14:52] <lesshaste> mgedmin, ah.. I didn't know universe was unsupported!
[14:52] <pgib> but.. I could be wrong.
[14:52] <TJ-> pgib: Yeah, which on a sparse-enabled block file-system should cause no NUL blocks to be allocated
[14:52] <oo_miguel> so finally I managed to install the firmware for my wlan0 interfae and can proceed with the installer. however after selecting a mirror. the complete screen is just magenta, with a gray line at the bottom, where i just can type, without any effect
[14:52] <TJ-> pgib: Amazing how complicated it can get!
[14:52] <oo_miguel> it seems the installer hangs or crashed here
[14:52] <mgedmin> unsupported by Canonical, to be precise; another way of saying "supported by the Ubuntu community" which, apparently, doesn't care about xpdf enough to fix it
[14:53] <pgib> yeah..
[14:53] <mgedmin> (I didn't even know it was broken; I haven't used xpdf in _years_)
[14:53] <schnitzl> TJ-, ask me about it... :((
[14:53] <TJ-> schnitzl: :D
[14:53] <schnitzl> you guys know what you are talking about..
[14:53] <schnitzl> but me just loling
[14:53] <schnitzl> ;)
[14:53]  * TJ- rolls eyes ... you think?
[14:54] <schnitzl> hehe seems so.
[14:54] <pgib> schnitzl, anyway, You are safe to make you image right now without any concerns
[14:55] <pgib> just do the recipe you or I suggested, and that should be fine, use a larger blocksize if it makes it faster, it doesn't matter
[14:55] <lolol> Best programming language for begineeerssss??
[14:55] <lolol> need some thoughts
[14:55] <somsip> !best | lolol
[14:55] <pgib> you just want to be more careful when writing. (ideally the block size you choose will be aligned with the size of your SSD's allocation units)
[14:56] <lolol> sompsip : what did you say?
[14:56] <OerHeks> lolol, english, and irc'ing as root is risky.
[14:56] <schnitzl> do you think the "all in one tools" like clonezilla image would to a better job than dd?
[14:56] <pgib> and actually, choosing your filesystem's block-size could be a good pick, since that is the least-common-denominator
[14:57] <pgib> schnitzl, not better. maybe simpler
[14:58] <SonikkuAmerica> schnitzl: dd is rather straightforward, just a little more terminal-savvy
[14:58] <schnitzl> i would like that. yea.
[14:59] <zhaolu> 有没有中文
[14:59] <pgib> schnitzl: dumpe2fs /dev/foo | grep 'Block size'
[14:59] <schnitzl> dump2fs ?
[14:59] <pgib> That is the block size of your ext2 filesystem.  It is probably fairly small (4096 or so)
[14:59] <pgib> schnitzl: dumpe2fs
[14:59] <rypervenche> !cn | zhaolu
[15:00] <schnitzl> i want to backup a ntfs win partition ;)
[15:00] <pgib> oh yeah.. I forgot
[15:00] <pgib> stupid filesystems
[15:01] <schnitzl> i want to clone the whole drive....so i just go with this: dd if=/dev/sdb bs=100M | gzip > ~/image-compress_sdb.img.gz
[15:01] <schnitzl> well clone: "clone to an image"
[15:01] <pgib> yeah, that will clone the whole drive.  are you sure you wish to restore the whole drive though?
[15:02] <pgib> partition table and all
[15:02] <schnitzl> i dont want to install my basic windows system as soon is wasted it. so i just installed win8.1 + drivers + some basic tools. the idea is to just recover the image i made with dd and not to go through the whole install process again.
[15:03] <pgib> ok, as long as your destination drive is at least as large as the source
[15:03] <pgib> I suppose you may be able to grow or add a partition in windows afterwards
[15:03] <schnitzl> external 1tb usb3.0, yes. it is ;)
[15:03] <pgib> a 1TB SSD? wow
[15:04] <schnitzl> and it shouldnt copy the empty blocks, does it? i dont want an imag eof 100gb of zeros
[15:04] <pgib> schnitzl, you will have an image of 100gb of zeros, but it should compress nicely
[15:04] <MangaKaDenza> ktanks
[15:04] <oo_miguel> what can be the reason for the installation hanging after selecting a mirror just with a gray line at the bottom, where i can type without any effect... the computer i am trying to install ubunut on does not have any harddisks, might this be the reason?
[15:05] <schnitzl> and how to change that, i mean, when i decompress and rewrite the image to the disc, it will write the zeros, or can i prevent that?
[15:05] <pgib> you want to prevent it with sparse, as mentioned before
[15:05] <boyslim> galera to com ubuntu 11.10 quero atualizalo para o mais recente via terminal tem como fazer isso,me deem essa força galera
[15:06] <schnitzl> sparse. ok. gonna read about that.
[15:06] <schnitzl> thank you man :D
[15:06] <pgib> maybe something like   gunzip foo.gz | dd of=/dev/new bs=4k sparse
[15:06] <schnitzl> this bs thing still is weird for me. i dont understand why it just doesnt make it like the original.
[15:06] <schnitzl> i have no idea how to find the "optimum"
[15:06] <pgib> "make it like original"?
[15:07] <schnitzl> use the same bs as the original
[15:07] <schnitzl> like the source**
[15:07] <pgib> schnitzl, the original what?
[15:07] <pgib> block size for dd just means how big of a chunk does it copy at a time
[15:08] <leandroal> what package should I have to install to allow acroread understand asian fonts? It says that it is necessary to install Japonese Language Fonts...
[15:08] <pgib> some multiple of the source's sector size should be appropriate
[15:08] <schnitzl> ahh ok.
[15:08] <pgib> however, you need a balance if you want sparse to work effectively
[15:09] <pgib> if you did bs=1g, then even if a single bit is true in that whole 1 gigabyte block, the block will be written, zeros and all
[15:09] <pgib> versus something like bs=4k, only a 4k block will be written for a single 1 bit. all the other blocks will be skipped
[15:09] <schnitzl> i can make it pretty small i think, since i have fast hardware + the source is small
[15:10] <pgib> yeah.. it would be a one-time cost for you during the restore
[15:11] <schnitzl> thats ok. i mean are we talking about hours, or more minutes...what does a fresh out of the box windows install weight? maybe 10 gigs...so thats nothing
[15:11] <schnitzl> i will go with 100mb. seems "smart" to me. but now, thanks to you guys, i udnerstand a little bit of that process.
[15:12] <pgib> I'd probably go down further for the restore, but that's just me
[15:13] <ramindia> hey all iam having issue sun quad port cards
[15:13] <schnitzl> pgib,  what do you think?
[15:13] <schnitzl> suggest*
[15:13] <ramindia> the mac address keep in changeing
[15:13] <ramindia> sun 501 5406 model
[15:15] <ramindia> not able to bind the cards
[15:15] <ramindia> for specific interface..the MAC keep changing
[15:16] <schnitzl> pgib, check this out. intersting: http://superuser.com/questions/234199/good-block-size-for-disk-cloning-with-diskdump-dd
[15:17] <pgib> I'd chose the smallest possible before it is super fucking slow
[15:17] <ikonia> pgib: tone down the language please.
[15:17] <pgib> ? ok
[15:17] <pgib> You want to avoid the SSD allocating empty blocks
[15:17] <ramindia> SUN 501-5460 sorry
[15:18]  * ochawkeye slaps pgib around a bit with a large trout
[15:18] <schnitzl> hehe yea. so i am with 10megs.
[15:18] <ikonia> ochawkeye_: don't need that sort of thing please, don't
[15:18] <pgib> (bs when creating the image is not important in this regard, choose something big, maybe 32M or so)
[15:19] <pgib> I'd say around 64k is a good compromise when restoring
[15:19] <schnitzl> ok
[15:25] <r4nd0m> hey guys
[15:25] <r4nd0m> i am new in UBUNTU unvierse ^
[15:25] <r4nd0m> and i have a question
[15:25] <r4nd0m> simple question ^^
[15:26] <r4nd0m> maybe someone could help :)
[15:26] <r4nd0m> that would be aswome
[15:26] <ikonia> you need to ask a question to get an answer
[15:26] <r4nd0m> ;)
[15:26] <r4nd0m> i tryed to start tor
[15:26] <r4nd0m> i downloadet in the software center
[15:27] <r4nd0m> tor & interface
[15:27] <mn3na3a> question, what is the usage of Timidity?
[15:27] <r4nd0m> when i open VALADIA
[15:28] <r4nd0m> error: could not start tor - check options
[15:29] <r4nd0m> menu1: starting tor when Vidalia starting - :/usr/sbin/tor
[15:29] <r4nd0m> i click - ok
[15:30] <r4nd0m> error : couldnt save cause ControlSocket pfad insnt existing
[15:31] <r4nd0m> i think the problem is : "/car/run/tor/control" isnt existing
[15:32] <Pinkamena_D> Hello, I just swapped my ubuntu drive to a toshib a laptop and now after being on the desktop for a minute or so the screen turns to a bunch of pixels and no connands will respond
[15:32] <r4nd0m> was ist ein ControlSocket
[15:32] <r4nd0m> what is a ControlSocket
[15:32] <cgtdk> !de | r4nd0m
[15:33] <Pinkamena_D> ctrl alt f1 and chat using irssi like right now it does not freeze
[15:33] <Pinkamena_D> something about x
[15:35] <geak> helo
[15:36] <r4nd0m> could someone help me to start TOR please!
[15:36] <cgtdk> !patience r4nd0m
[15:36] <cgtdk> !patience | r4nd0m
[15:37] <r4nd0m> ya thx
[15:38] <MonkeyDust> r4nd0m  tor is no match for NSA, if that's what you want it for
[15:39] <geak> why ubuntu？ we have debian
[15:39] <cgtdk> geak: Go away
[15:39] <cgtdk> !offtopic | geak
[15:39] <fishcooker> i've 13.04 box with vnc server how to make the box screen show the as same as on the remote box ?
[15:40] <geak> why go away？
[15:40] <Ari-Yang> !12.10
[15:41] <Ari-Yang> huh, 12.10's EOL is  April 2014 :o
[15:41] <cgtdk> geak: It's an annoying question and it's off topic. This is a support channel.
[15:45] <geak> no topic？
[15:45] <Pici> geak: This channel is for Ubuntu support only.
[15:45] <Pici> It is not a discussion channel.
[15:46] <geak> ok
[15:46] <Ari-Yang> geak: for offtopic discussion, there's #ubuntu-offtopic
[15:46] <Ari-Yang> that's like the lounge
[15:46] <geak> thx
[15:46] <Ari-Yang> np~
[15:47] <geak> np？
[15:47] <dman777_alter> i install conntrack, but the table /proc/net/ip_conntrack is still missing. i verified with lsmod the module is loaded
[15:48] <Ari-Yang> geak: np == no problem
[15:49] <geak> sorry i am a mars
[15:50] <daniel11> Hello my friend's windows computer wont boot. I have suggested he install ubuntu and we are currently looking at a USB live system, which is running on the computer where we will install ubuntu. We want to back up his windows files first, but his NTFS partition has auto-mounted and cant be read (sudo blkid confirms it is NTFS). the command ls gives a "Input/Output Error" on the mount point.
[15:50] <TJ-> dman777_alter: Have you configured netfilters conntrack rules?
[15:50] <daniel11> are we essentially looking at a fucked ntfs partition then? any other things to try?
[15:50] <dman777_alter> TJ-: no, i thought it kept track of all connections regardless.
[15:51] <dman777_alter> TJ-: i don't have any ip tables rules on my gentoo system and /proc/net/ip_conntrack populates
[15:51] <TJ-> dman777_alter: Are other nf_conntrack_* modules also loaded?
[15:52] <OerHeks> daniel11, install ntfs-3g to access the NTFS partition
[15:52] <daniel11> thanks oerheks
[15:52] <dman777_alter> TJ-: not on ubuntu
[15:52] <OerHeks> !ntfs-3g
[15:52] <TJ-> dman777_alter: That might explain it... looking at 2 of my servers with the table present, there are lots of nf_conntrack_* modules in use
[15:53] <mrrcp> how to i tell ssh in terminal not to use my pub key
[15:53] <mrrcp> so i can test fail2ban
[15:54] <daniel11> thanks we are also getting a weird graphical glitching error when we press the launcher button...
[15:54] <daniel11> reluctant to install ubuntu unless we can solve that problem..
[15:55] <jitendra> jkjljlj
[15:55] <jitendra> hi
[15:56] <dman777_alter> TJ-: ok, thanks. i thoguht nf_conntrack was depcrecated
[15:56] <kongthap> i got power failure and got read only file system when login, so i did boot with Live USB and use "sudo fsck -y -c -f /dev/sda5", fsck scanned my root partition and fixed some errors, i can boot into system almost as normal but i "still periodically get read only file system", what else should i do?
[15:56] <daniel11> any ideas about the graphical glitching problem?
[15:56] <TJ-> dman777_alter: I'm looking on 12.04 servers
[15:56] <geak> how to hide the userlist
[15:56] <the-noob> anyone installed vagrant on ubuntu ? I'm getting a strange error
[15:59] <icaho> mrrcp: ssh -o PreferredAuthentications="password" user@host
[16:07] <joshu> hi on ubuntu desktop 13.04 i can't find how to enable the vnc server? has it changed since 12.04?
[16:08] <ikonia> I didn't know vnc server was installed by default
[16:10] <joshu> hi ikonia I might be mistaken but I thought prior to 12.04 there was a setting to enable the vnc server. Anyway in 13.04 I need to install it, correct?
[16:11] <ikonia> joshu: no idea, I just didn't know it was installed by default
[16:12] <lolol> Python vs Pascal?
[16:12] <ikonia> is nothing to do with this channel
[16:13] <joshu> ikonia this is what I meant…"vino" https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNC/Servers
[16:13] <dvineone> hi everyone how is it going?
[16:13] <joshu> just found it "remote sharing"
[16:14] <slipky> hello.. i have a ubuntu-server-12.04 running openldap and cups.. it is possible to make a windows client be asked for ldap authentication everytime that he send a job to the printer?
[16:15] <lolol> ikona : where can i get that can of choosing help?
[16:15] <ikonia> slipky: maybe with a pam rule ?
[16:15] <lolol> kind of *
[16:15] <ikonia> lolol: no idea, not here though, so please stop asking language V language questions
[16:15] <lolol> ok :)
[16:16] <sh4rm4> hi, what's the package name for libsdl-audio-dev ?
[16:16] <kostkon> !find libsdl
[16:17] <slipky> ikonia: i will search about that.. thanks
[16:22] <Wall543> 1
[16:24] <kongthap> i got power failure and got read only file system when login, so i did boot with Live USB and use "sudo fsck -y -c -f /dev/sda5", fsck scanned my root partition and fixed some errors, i can boot into system almost as normal but i "still periodically get read only file system", what else should i do?
[16:25] <_-^GeddY_LeE^bNc> hi
[16:26] <systime> kongthap: it's possible you may have to re-install.  fsck doesn't fix everything 100% of the time.
[16:27] <kongthap> systime: is it possible to re-install with all current setting  backup and restore???
[16:28] <systime> kongthap: I would recommend backup up what you can and using it for reference as you put the system back together.
[16:29] <kongthap> systime: what can i use for backup???
[16:30] <systime> kongthap: I prefer cpio, you could also use tar, I'm sure there are other ways
[16:30] <ramindia> any help on mac address issue sun 501 5406 model quad port ethernet pci
[16:31] <ActionParsnip> ramindia: what is the issue?
[16:31] <keanehsiao> would like to ask, I am facing "fork: Cannot allocate memory" problems, I now use 7g and machine is 32g. so it still has 25g. I create like 80 running instance. but couldn't think of any reason,  what are the possible reasons to cause it?
[16:31] <ActionParsnip> keanehsiao: what causes the warning?
[16:32] <ikonia> keanehsiao: what application are you trying to run
[16:32] <ikonia> it could be as simple as requiring a shard memory segment,
[16:32] <keanehsiao> ActionParsnip: once I start 80 instance.  I run 30 at it was fine, and I create another 50 may cause the problem.
[16:32] <keanehsiao> ikonia: ruby instance, write by my own.
[16:33] <ActionParsnip> keanehsiao: have you asked in the ruby channel?
[16:33] <ActionParsnip> keanehsiao: are there any bugs reported?
[16:33] <keanehsiao> ikonia: it works fine to create 20 instance on 4g ram machine, and may run up to 4g all, and still works fine.
[16:33] <grendal-prime> hey guys..pocketsphinx_tidigits works and i can get numbers to text ok..but the pocketsphinx_continuous to work
[16:33] <ActionParsnip> keanehsiao: what is the output of:  cat /etc/issue; uname -m
[16:33] <ikonia> keanehsiao: are you hitting a process count limit for example ?
[16:33] <kongthap> systime: thanks
[16:33] <keanehsiao> ActionParsnip: I think ruby program itself may works fine
[16:33] <systime> kongthap: np
[16:34] <keanehsiao> ikonia: perhaps, but I set anything I can image to a high number,  ex ulimit,  limit.h and some more
[16:34] <ikonia> keanehsiao: limit.h - is a header, that won't change anything on the system
[16:35] <ActionParsnip> keanehsiao: what is the output of:  cat /etc/issue; uname -m
[16:35] <keanehsiao> also set #define PIPE_BUF     	#define rtsig	#define FD_SETSIZE  #define NR_OPEN
[16:35] <ikonia> keanehsiao: that's specific to your program - again, not a system setting
[16:35] <keanehsiao> ikonia: so how can I change the process count limit?
[16:36] <ikonia> keanehsiao: that may not be the problem, I was just giving you an example
[16:36] <keanehsiao> ActionParsnip: not sure, it still "Cannot allocate memory" so I can't do anything… let me reboot and try.
[16:36] <ikonia> you can't do anything ??
[16:36] <ActionParsnip> keanehsiao: also test RAM using memtest in Grub
[16:36] <ikonia> that sounds like you may have a bad memory leak in your program
[16:37] <LordThumper> Hi. Has the Unmount option been removed from Nautilus context menu? I only have Eject
[16:37] <keanehsiao> ActionParsnip: ok
[16:37] <keanehsiao> ikonia: really? but free -m said 25g left.
[16:37] <ActionParsnip> LordThumper: do you not see the safe remove feature in the Unity panel on the left?
[16:38] <LordThumper> ActionParnsip: I do not want to "Safely remove". I want to unmount the volume, and leave the device (ex. /dev/sdb) available
[16:38] <ActionParsnip> LordThumper: i'd use CLI then :)
[16:38] <gordonjcp> LordThumper: unmount it, then
[16:39] <ActionParsnip> LordThumper: sudo umount /dev/sdb1    for example
[16:39] <LordThumper> Yes, terminal is the only option for this common action
[16:39] <gordonjcp> LordThumper: "common" for who?
[16:39] <ActionParsnip> LordThumper: if it works, why not
[16:40] <ActionParsnip> LordThumper: most users will want to remove the device physically, so eject is sensible. I can only think a few users will want to unmount but leave the device available
[16:40] <gordonjcp> LordThumper: under what normal combination of circumstances would you want to unmount the filesystem but leave the device active, for a *removable* device?
[16:40] <LordThumper> Yes but
[16:40] <gordonjcp> LordThumper: yes but nothing
[16:40] <LordThumper> Eject and Unmount where both available
[16:40] <ActionParsnip> LordThumper: its not common
[16:40] <LordThumper> In a previous build of Nautilus
[16:40] <LordThumper> Guess they removed it
[16:40] <ActionParsnip> LordThumper: you can add it with nautilus-scripts if you desire
[16:41] <gordonjcp> LordThumper: what GUI app uses an unmounted device?
[16:41] <LordThumper> Gparted
[16:41] <ActionParsnip> gordonjcp: i believe nautilus had it, but it was confusing users with 2 options for the same thing
[16:41] <LordThumper> But anyways, not blaming anyone, especially not anyone on this channel
[16:42] <gordonjcp> LordThumper: anyway it's an uncommon thing to do, way less common than "let me remove the drive"
[16:42] <LordThumper> But it is getting annoying adding everything manually, I just had to add "Open Terminal here" context menu
[16:42] <LordThumper> gordonjcp: Yeah true
[16:50] <ramindia> ActionParsnip: u here ?
[16:51] <funkt> anyone know how i can larger thumbs when using the file browser?
[16:53] <Akuw> i have this aoutput when use sudo aptitude search, what mean B and A  ?
[16:53] <Akuw> http://www.pastebin.ca/2464206
[16:55] <dandan_> TJ-: I figured out what was wrong with my MAKE problems in Ubuntu
[16:55] <TJ-> dandan_: nice one :)
[16:55] <b0x> is there an app that will allow me to quickly view PSD's in ubuntu?? similar to irfanview in windows?
[16:56] <Cera> I have just installed Ubuntu 4 weeks ago, everything was working exactly fine, but now. when I log in, and enter my password, I can only see my cursor and the ubuntu orange background, my wallpaper, panels, icons take like 70-90 seconds to load up. Like, I have to wait a lot. What is this causing this problem? Here is the output of my dmesg: http://pastebin.com/mkPSa9kw
[16:56] <b0x> they open in gimp but i dont need that functionality
[16:56] <Shane-S> where can I locate the apt-get log when it has an error code (1)
[16:57] <Cera> anybody?
[16:57] <dandan_> TJ-: The problem was that I edited the Makefile SUBLEVEL number to match the original Samsung kernel string version number, because I read somewhere that the kernel magic string needs to match the original for wifi module to work properly?
[16:58] <TJ-> dandan_: aha!
[16:58] <dandan_> TJ-:  Am I not supposed to edit that number then?
[16:58] <funkt> Hi there in 12.04 when I choose a file in the file browser the thumbnails are sooo tiny does anyone know how I can make these larger?
[17:00] <brontosaurusrex> funkt, ctrl + mice scroll?
[17:00] <TJ-> dandan_: It is there to describe to the source-code the version of Linux represented by the source-tree. You change that, and various #ifdef pre-processor directives will do something other than what ought to happen.
[17:01] <TJ-> funkt: I think the keyboard Ctrl++ and Ctrl+- will also control thumbnail size
[17:01] <funkt> hey there thanks for getting back to me alas it doesnt work :(
[17:01] <funkt> oh thanks
[17:01] <funkt> ill try that
[17:02] <funkt> nope still nothing i'm stumped
[17:02] <TJ-> funkt: I seem to recall there is something on Nautilus' view menu about zoom +/- that also shows the hot-key combo
[17:02] <dandan_> TJ-: Guess I shouldn't willy nilly make changes to Makefile that tutorials say to do to make something else work... many thanks for your help. One other question, is there any way to get a progress reading of a MAKE job?
[17:02] <grimer> did one of the latest patches hose any of you up with 3 monitors in twinview? the nvidia driver now seems to be ignoring my xorg.conf.
[17:02] <TJ-> dandan_: It'll depend on the build Makefile file itself - it may have options for quiet and verbose
[17:03] <funkt> i'm not sure what you mean?
[17:04] <dandan_> TJ-: Ok thanks
[17:05] <lionrouge> hi ^_^
[17:05] <lionrouge> is there any guide on 3d-acceleration setup in Ubuntu?
[17:05] <manish> hi
[17:13] <Extreminador> hi guys
[17:13] <ioCharSet> hello! how can i guess what iocharset has been used for a mounted network folder via samba?
[17:13] <Extreminador> is there any tool like "demon tools" for windows but for linux ?
[17:14] <gartral> Extreminador: for mounting isos?
[17:14] <Extreminador> gardar, yup...
[17:15] <gartral> Extreminador: i recomend watching who your typing to, gardar gets annoyedwhen people are responding to me
[17:16] <Extreminador> gartral,  ups lool sorry
[17:16] <gartral> Extreminador: to answer your question, yes, its built into linux and ut's si,ply called mount
[17:16] <Ari-Yang> Extreminador: Ithink there's a mount command for mounting ISOs...
[17:17] <Ari-Yang> Extreminador: I think it's mount -o loop disk1.iso /mnt/disk or something
[17:17] <Extreminador> but can we run directly the program/software ?
[17:17] <Ari-Yang> Extreminador: in terminal check out man mount or mount --help
[17:17] <Extreminador> and yehh there is a mount on the terminal indeed
[17:17] <OerHeks> https://apps.ubuntu.com/cat/applications/gisomount/
[17:18] <Extreminador> i will check it Ari-Yang thanks
[17:18] <gartral> Extreminador: the usage would be mount -o loop /path/to/disk.iso 0t iso 9660 /path/to/folder/mount and yes you can run contained software
[17:18] <OerHeks> or more options https://apps.ubuntu.com/cat/applications/furiusisomount/
[17:18] <gartral> oops -t
[17:18] <Extreminador> OerHeks, well since there is a mount already in-build on ubuntu i will lean how to use it
[17:18] <Extreminador> but thanks
[17:19] <Extreminador> gartral, thanks
[17:22] <lotuspsychje> good evening to all
[17:23] <lotuspsychje> im looking for a candycrush alternative for ubuntu (like gweled)
[17:24] <Shane-S> I am trying to run apt-get upgrade and getting drive full error, when I did df -h , I see /dev/sda1 is 228M 228M 0 100% /boot, is there any easy way to expand that?
[17:25] <Rory> Shane-S: You can delete files
[17:25] <ramindia> ActionParsnip : u there
[17:25] <Rory> Shane-S: Can you please pastebin the output of "sudo df -h"
[17:25] <tor_> anyone know why i lost sound through HDMI? it used to work but i think an update did some bad stuff. notice how HDMI seems active to the right but not present in the list to the left http://pbrd.co/1a83O45
[17:26] <Shane-S> Can't copy from the VM console sadly, I need to enable copy and paste....waiting till 3 so I can shut down the server
[17:26] <TJ-> Shane-S: think the opposite way. Delete packages installed there. "/boot/" contains the linux kernels and associated files, which get upgraded quite often, leaving older unused versions in place. Someone else here can guide you to identifying the unused packages and removing them safely
[17:26] <Rory> !pastebinit | Shane-S
[17:26] <Rory> Shane-S: In the meantime, "sudo apt-get clean"
[17:26] <TJ-> Shane-S: start with "dpkg-query -l 'linux-image*'  | grep '^ii'  " which will list installed kernel images
[17:27] <dog-food> how do I make a wifi access point I have atheros usb wifi ?
[17:27] <Shane-S> Rory / TJ: ty
[17:27] <TJ-> Shane-S: And tell us which kernel is currently booted with "uname -r" so you don't accidentally try to delete it too!
[17:27] <kkragoth> hey i tried to google this but i had no idea how. Is there a way to preview  content of folder f.x called "a" when i am doing smth like this "$ cp ~/andomfile  ~/a
[17:27] <TJ-> !hostap | dog-food
[17:28] <TJ-> !hostapd | dog-food
[17:28] <Shane-S> Rory / TJ: 3.2.0.-37-generic
[17:28] <Rory> kkragoth: ls ~/a
[17:29] <mudkip908> kkragoth: press TAB a couple times
[17:30] <resno> im looking for suggestions about union filesystems i should look into.
[17:30] <TJ-> Shane-S: Does the VM have connectivity right now? if so check if pastebinit is installed ("apt-cache policy pastebinit"). If not, install it then you can paste command output directly using, for example, "dpkg-query -l 'linux-image*'  | grep '^ii' | pastebinit"
[17:30] <Shane-S> okay..it isn't I setup the machine
[17:31] <kkragoth> to multiple answers: i mean something like key shortcut that behaves as ls of the *a folder while still typing a command (not tab/ not | ls ~a )
[17:31] <Shane-S> can I install it or do I need to clean up from of the /boot stuff first
[17:31] <Shane-S> apt-get clean didn't remove anything fyi, and I have the grep output in my face
[17:31] <TJ-> Shane-S: Yes, you can install it /boot/ isn't used for anything but the linux-image* packages
[17:32] <Shane-S> I have all generics, with 3.2.0-23 up to -37
[17:32] <Shane-S> okay
[17:32] <TJ-> !info hostapd | dog-food
[17:35] <Shane-S> *sigh* brb I am going to see if I can just enable C&P and restart this thing...pastbin has dependancies
[17:37] <MapsRus> How do I create a user in Ubuntu which can execute all programs as root/sudo?  I hate having to gksu every app just so I can edit some config files!
[17:37] <dandan_> TJ-: Do you know why my compiled kernel works okay and creates all the necessary modules, EXCEPT FOR WIFI?
[17:38] <willybilly0101> MapsRus, and you will log in to that user each time?
[17:39] <ezra-s> dandan_, that's not an ubuntu question, but probably you havent enabled necessary modules in the config
[17:40] <dandan_> ezra-s: As in, "make menuconfig" and look for wifi modules?
[17:40] <lotuspsychje> MapsRus: you could also sux a program with root privileges
[17:40] <MapsRus> >willybilly0101 yes...I will login to Ubuntu and not have to worry about running gksu top open apps in sudo mode
[17:40] <willybilly0101> then enable root
[17:40] <lotuspsychje> !info sux | MapsRus
[17:40] <willybilly0101> same security hole
[17:41] <dog-food> on windows phone 8 wifi access poiint can be created with few taps
[17:41] <lotuspsychje> dog-food: this is ubuntu here mate
[17:41] <ezra-s> dandan_, yes
[17:42] <ezra-s> dandan_, there is one section for the drivers and there is another for wifi in general in a separate section... maybe you are missing one of the two
[17:42] <ezra-s> dandan_, which kernel version are you compiling?
[17:43] <MapsRus> >ubotto - so with sux, I can launch apps in sudo mode without going to the terminal to do so?
[17:43] <dandan_> ezra-s: I am compiling kernel for Samsung Galaxy Note 3. I downloaded the source code, have the working toolchain, the kernel compiles fine, I enabled modules so that they compile also. But no wifi...
[17:45] <ezra-s> dandan_, I have no experience compiling for mobile phones, are you sure the kernel you have has the necessary drivers enabled?
[17:46] <Pici> dandan_: What does this have to do with Ubuntu?
[17:46] <ezra-s> dandan_, I believe the other sexion I was refering was where you can enable mac80211 support or similar, but don't know if that applies to your case
[17:46] <ezra-s> s/sexion/section/
[17:47] <dandan_> I was having trouble getting MAKE to work on ubuntu seemingly after I updated packages but it is working now. Sorry I don't want to clog this place with Android talk...
[17:47] <dandan_> ezra-s: Yes there is an option for 80211 do I have to enable that?
[17:47] <Pici> dandan_: #android or #android-dev might be better places to ask your current questins.
[17:47] <lotuspsychje> MapsRus: no it works same way, opening terminal/ sux username firefox
[17:48] <ezra-s> dandan_, surely, and there is more than one related to that one in the same section, but I don't recall by memory only, check menuconfig
[17:48] <comodo_dragon> bocaneri
[17:48] <dandan_> Okay, thankyou everybody for the support :)
[17:49] <lotuspsychje> !it | comodo_dragon
[17:50] <bocaneri> comodo_dragon, stop highlighting me.
[17:50] <MapsRus> that's lousy...it's like having Windows UAC all over again...there must be a way to run apps as sudo without launching from a command line!
[17:50] <gordonjcp> !gksu
[17:51] <gordonjcp> MapsRus: what are you trying to run as root?
[17:51] <gordonjcp> MapsRus: you should pretty much never have to use root
[17:51] <MapsRus> gedit, nautilus...etc
[17:51] <gordonjcp> MapsRus: okay, in pretty much every case you're probably doing something wrong
[17:51] <gordonjcp> MapsRus: what *exactly* are you trying to do?
[17:51] <MapsRus> If I don't, I cannot edit any config files or copy files to my web folders. etc
[17:51] <nysochat> hi there
[17:52] <gordonjcp> MapsRus: is this on your desktop?
[17:52] <gordonjcp> (presumably so, since you have nautilus)
[17:52] <comodo_dragon> pizi
[17:52] <sauraedron> MapsRus, may be log in as root
[17:53] <comodo_dragon> you ban me?
[17:53] <gordonjcp> MapsRus: set the permissions on your web directories to be writable by you
[17:53] <lotuspsychje> !ops | comodo_dragon
[17:53] <gordonjcp> MapsRus: if this is on a production system, then look at "sensible" ways of deploying
[17:53] <gordonjcp> MapsRus: like maybe fabric
[17:53] <Corey> comodo_dragon: Knock it off.
[17:53] <MapsRus> yes, I could do that ...  after I gksu nautilus :)
[17:54] <gordonjcp> MapsRus: no, do that from the command line
[17:54] <gordonjcp> it's much easier
[17:54] <gordonjcp> MapsRus: you need to do it from the command line on the server *anyway*
[17:54] <MapsRus> what could be easier than browsing to a folder and right clicking on it and setting permissions - FYI - you can tell I'm a big fan of GUI's
[17:55] <nb-ben> hi there
[17:56] <karab44> hello
[17:56] <nb-ben> I got a new Lenovo G500, trying to install from USB however neither netboot nor does liveusb work
[17:56] <Myrtti> comodo_dragon: cut it out.
[17:56] <nb-ben> netboot just fails to get past syslinux (says no boot target) and liveusb starts, but I can't see anything drawn on screen
[17:56] <comodo_dragon> i am.
[17:56] <nb-ben> I can hear the logon sound when it boots but screen is just entirely blank
[17:56] <karab44> there is an option to Lock after Screen turns off. I don't want it. How to Turn off the screen on Screen Lock?
[17:57] <nb-ben> I suppose perhaps I should have tried moving to terminal
[17:57] <willybilly0101> is it true that ubuntu people are republicans?
[17:57] <lotuspsychje> willybilly0101: thats a bit offtopic mate
[17:57] <willybilly0101> ok, will ask on offtopic
[17:58] <DJones> comodo_dragon: You know that this channel only deals with with ubuntu support, if you have issues in other channels, please discuss them with operators from those channl;es and not in this channel
[17:58] <comodo_dragon> where can i chat about not support?
[17:59] <gartral> !offtopic | comodo_dragon
[17:59] <comodo_dragon> k
[18:00] <MapsRus> Any idea how to modify the Ubuntu default startup programs via a GUI?
[18:01] <lotuspsychje> MapsRus: are you on ubuntu server?
[18:02] <joshuadempsey> Hi
[18:03] <gordonjcp> MapsRus: I have no idea how you'd "browse" to a "folder"
[18:04] <gordonjcp> MapsRus: what could be easier than just typing a two-word command to set the permissions?
[18:04] <gordonjcp> MapsRus: FWIW not even Windows servers use GUIs
[18:06] <MapsRus> I'm running a desktop version of Ubuntu...
[18:06] <gordonjcp> MapsRus: right, but you wouldn't be running that on a server
[18:06] <karab44> how to enable/change screensaver on 13.04?
[18:06] <gordonjcp> !screensaver | karab44
[18:07] <karab44> not available hahaha
[18:07] <lotuspsychje> karab44: i think i had to remove gnome default screensaver
[18:07] <gordonjcp> ah, ubottu no longer knows about screensavers
[18:07] <lotuspsychje> karab44: and install xscreensaver
[18:07] <karab44> I can not find any
[18:07] <lotuspsychje> !info xscreensaver | karab44
[18:08] <kostkon> !xscreensaver
[18:09] <lotuspsychje> karab44: for more screensaver ons xscreensaver install the extras data
[18:09] <karab44> thanks! I didn't know there's no ss on ubu by default
[18:10] <lotuspsychje> karab44: there is gnome default screensaver running as deamon, but you need to uninstall that one
[18:10] <karab44> It is not working
[18:10] <karab44> I have black screen and nothing more
[18:10] <MonkeyDust> karab44  because the iso had to be kept small, some packages have been left out, screensavers among them
[18:11] <karab44> even small screensaver? even tiny text?
[18:11] <karab44> okay
[18:11] <MonkeyDust> karab44  a screensaver comes up when you are away, so you are not *supposed* to see it
[18:11] <karab44> hehehe
[18:12] <karab44> but I see my screen is black but not even turned off. It's just black background and I see it glows in the dark
[18:14] <Rory> karab44: Sounds like the "blank" screensaver
[18:14] <karab44> yes
[18:14] <Rory> karab44: You can set the screento turn off in power settings
[18:14] <karab44> That's why I asked where to set something
[18:15] <karab44> Rory: no, it's not there
[18:16] <lotuspsychje> MonkeyDust: i like phosphor running on my screen when afk :p
[18:17] <Rory> karab44: What's not where? Are you in power options?
[18:17] <karab44> yes
[18:18] <Rory> karab44: Mine looks like this: http://rory.sh/files/power.png
[18:18] <karab44> nope
[18:18] <karab44> O! I can se myself!
[18:19] <Rory> "nope"
[18:19] <Rory> What does yours look like?
[18:19] <Rory> Oh wait
[18:19] <Rory> I made a huge mistake, sorry. The setting is in Screensaver
[18:20] <karab44> So terrible xscreensavers!
[18:21] <Rory> Right, I am going to stop trying to help because I assumed there was a screensaver program but it looks like it was removed from Ubuntu at some point
[18:21] <karab44> They look like winamp plugins from early 90's :D
[18:21] <Rory> And now I have no idea how to do it
[18:21] <Rory> karab44: They're amazing :3
[18:21] <sauraedron> karab44, right click change desktop backgrnd->all settings->brightness lock
[18:22] <karab44> and half of them shows as not installed, even after installing extras
[18:22] <ddosantos> hello
[18:22] <cariveri> How to change ip in use for the wlan0 interface?
[18:22] <karab44> gosh they're awful
[18:23] <karab44> bouncing cow
[18:23] <karab44> ...
[18:23] <Rory> cariveri: Use Network Manager -> Edit Connections
[18:23] <ddosantos> is there any specific channel about samba?
[18:23] <cariveri> Rory: I mean terminal way.
[18:23] <Rory> ddosantos: #samba on Freenode
[18:23] <ddosantos> oh thanks
[18:23] <Yans> ddosantos #RioDeJaneiro
[18:23] <Eduard_Munteanu> What's a good way to trigger an event when an USB stick is inserted? 'usbmount' seems to take care of mounting, but what about running a script?
[18:24] <ddosantos> XD
[18:24] <Rory> Eduard_Munteanu: Try here? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsbDriveDoSomethingHowto
[18:24] <Eduard_Munteanu> Rory: thanks
[18:24] <kallops> how should I partition my server computer with 1 harddrive of 250 GB, intended for many virtual servers
[18:24] <jboii> hi
[18:25] <jboii> can someone help me with this ?
[18:25] <ikonia> kallops: however you feel best
[18:25] <Eduard_Munteanu> kallops: boot partition + another big one, most likely. The big stuff can be LVM-ized.
[18:25] <Rory> kallops: What virtualisation software will you be using?
[18:25] <delinquentme> are there any instances where an ubuntu code base should be looking for a .dll ... outside of a WINE application?
[18:25] <Rory> kallops: Generally just one big / partition is easiest and therefore best
[18:25] <Eduard_Munteanu> kallops: you can use LVs for VM storage.
[18:25] <Rory> delinquentme: Perhaps Mono?
[18:25] <kallops> ok thanks
[18:25] <Rory> jboii: with what?
[18:25] <jboii> the computer hangs up and dim brightness is 50%
[18:25] <jboii> how can i stop this
[18:26] <Eduard_Munteanu> kallops: look at the thin provisioning LVM stuff, btw
[18:26] <kallops> im learning, im dont know so much, but I guess in the future I will have plenty of virtual servers
[18:26] <delinquentme> Pici, if you're around :D  Theres a *.dll question
[18:26] <karab44> I did something cool and oldschool with Extrusion screensaver! Thanks to you guys! You're the best! :)
[18:26] <comodo_dragon> jboii disable screensaver?
[18:26] <kallops> having partition for / and /boot and /home and /swap?
[18:27] <Rory> jboii: Are you saying that your brightness will not go above 50% ?
[18:27] <Rory> kallops: Just / and swap
[18:27] <jboii> isnt that , that is not function , its just dim that happens when its stuck
[18:27] <Eduard_Munteanu> kallops: FWIW you might not need a swap partition at all, if this is a hypervisor
[18:28] <ikonia> not having a swap partition would be unwise
[18:28] <kostkon> jboii, that happens to frozen programs
[18:28] <kallops> I have 2gb ram, will upgrade in future to 16
[18:28] <k1l> ikonia: depends on the ram and on the usecase.
[18:28] <kallops> hypervisor i guess
[18:29] <Eduard_Munteanu> ikonia: how so? Per-VM swap should be more flexible.
[18:29] <ikonia> k1l: I disagree
[18:29] <Eduard_Munteanu> And you can just swap on LV or an ext4 file.
[18:29] <ikonia> Eduard_Munteanu: per vm swap is based on disk and ram of the guest, which is actually based on disk and ram of the hypervisor, both for ram
[18:29] <ikonia> Eduard_Munteanu: so not having swap on the hypervisor to swap out idle work can have a negative impact on the guests
[18:29] <Bronze> hi, I've been trying out the new Ubuntu desktop, and I'm finding it problematic. I realize this is personal and subjective. I've been using UNIX since 1982 and I'm kind of technically oriented. I find that the menus are just too minimal to give me ready access to the things I'm looking for
[18:30] <Bronze> are there any other ways to configure and Ubuntu system to be more complex?
[18:30] <Rory> !kde | Bronze
[18:30] <Bronze> Rory: thank you Sir.
[18:30] <gordonjcp> Bronze: what do you mean "more complex"?
[18:30] <kostkon> Bronze, what menus? there arent any menus in ubuntu
[18:30] <gordonjcp> Bronze: or better still, which desktop environment are you most used to?
[18:30] <Bronze> kostkon: well I found some. :-)
[18:30] <Eduard_Munteanu> ikonia: mm, I'm not sure swapping out VM memory is a good idea. You can just use the KVM balloon driver to make memory scale according to needs.
[18:31] <jboii> apps that are stuck  yea
[18:31] <k1l> ikonia: in this setup with vms i wold recommend a swap. but in my setup here on my laptop (where i dont use suspend and have 8gb ram) i dont need swap.
[18:31] <jboii> its like a pause
[18:31] <ikonia> k1l: I still disagree, having even a small swap area can be useful even if on paper you can run everything in ram
[18:31] <Bronze> gordonjcp: well I find most of the gnome-based GUI systems to be way too constraining and simplistic. I am used to the Red Hat-based systems and I have used Debian systems and knoppix and Ubuntu before. But this new generation of interface for Ubuntu has been so simplified that I can't find menus for administering the system.
[18:31] <ikonia> Eduard_Munteanu: I disagree, but of course people have different opinions
[18:32] <gordonjcp> Bronze: uhm
[18:32] <gordonjcp> Bronze: so what DE were you sung in Redhat?
[18:32] <Eduard_Munteanu> ikonia: fair, I guess swapping on an ext4 file is a good compromise, though. It's easier to scale than a partition.
[18:32] <Eduard_Munteanu> Or at least a LV.
[18:32] <Bronze> gordonjcp: I've used KDE, icewm, lxde and some others
[18:32] <gordonjcp> Bronze: so install lxde then
[18:33] <Bronze> I would have if I could have figured out how to. I couldn't find a menu for controlling that. :-)
[18:33] <gordonjcp> Bronze: what do you need to configure?
[18:33] <Bronze> I couldn't even find a way to get a terminal up.
[18:33] <kostkon> Bronze, there is the system settings option up right by pressing the gear icon or searching in the dash
[18:33] <Eduard_Munteanu> Partitions = headaches, generally.
[18:33] <gordonjcp> Bronze: I don't use menus for configuring anything, fwiw
[18:33] <gordonjcp> Bronze: oh, that's a lie, the network manager one is great for setting up wifi and VPNs, quite a time-saver
[18:33] <Bronze> gordonjcp: well personally I prefer to use the command line myself. But I don't always have enough knowledge for each distro
[18:33] <Rory> Bronze: Ctrl + Alt + T for getting a terminal
[18:34] <Bronze> I actually had to destroy the network manager and replace it with a script.
[18:34] <gordonjcp> Bronze: all the distros are all the same
[18:34] <Bronze> OK you just lost all credibility.
[18:34] <gordonjcp> Bronze: just as a matter of interest, what Unix were you using in 1982?
[18:34] <gordonjcp> Bronze: all *Unixes* are pretty much the same
[18:34] <Rory> Bronze: This is all getting a little #ubuntu-offtopic
[18:34] <gordonjcp> never mind Linux distros
[18:34] <Bronze> BSD, on sun workstation, and another Motorola-based system from Charles River data systems
[18:34] <gordonjcp> Bronze: so if you've used for example Knoppix you ought to cope with Lubuntu
[18:35] <Bronze> OK thank you. I'll  move to another channel since we are off-topic
[18:35] <gordonjcp> Bronze: #ubuntu-offtopic would be good
[18:36] <Eduard_Munteanu> Hm, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsbDriveDoSomethingHowto doesn't quite cut it. The manual seems to warn against launching daemons or such stuff with RUN udev actions. Is there a better way, perhaps related to usbmount?
[18:36] <gordonjcp> Bronze: try "sudo apt-get install lubuntu-desktop" which will, uh, install lubuntu desktop
[18:36] <gordonjcp> Bronze: does what it says on the tin
[18:36] <Bronze> gordonjcp: that channel doesn't have enough menus :-)
[18:36] <gordonjcp> Bronze: that's pretty much going to be like Knoppix for you ;-)
[18:36] <Bronze> OK. thank you.  I'm over in #lubuntu now
[18:36] <Caelum> I'm setting up a machine for an older person, what extra things do you guys suggest I install? I have chrome, gedit, amarok and auto-updates on there already.
[18:36] <Eduard_Munteanu> I figure usbmount would be the best thing to ask to notify me.
[18:36] <ikonia> Caelum: what ever they need,
[18:36] <ioCharSet> hi! how can i get to know what iocharset has been used to mount a network folder??
[18:37] <pandaroot_> what does this command do sudo chown -R root:username /home/ubuntu ?
[18:37] <ikonia> Caelum: we can't know other peoples requirements if you don't know them
[18:37] <Eduard_Munteanu> Oh!
[18:37] <ikonia> pandaroot_: changes the ubuntu users home directory to be owned by root
[18:37] <Caelum> ikonia: he just mostly uses the web browser, pdfs and such
[18:37] <Eduard_Munteanu> http://packages.ubuntu.com/precise/all/usbmount/filelist  -- /etc/usbmount/{u,}mount.d/  !
[18:37] <ikonia> Caelum: so install things to allow that
[18:37]  * Caelum sighs
[18:37] <jboii> none kno how i can stop the apps from stuck ?
[18:39] <jboii> display is dim when its stuck
[18:39] <kostkon> Caelum, you could even install adobe reader if you think it would be more familiar to them than evince
[18:39] <Eduard_Munteanu> Ew.
[18:39] <pandaroot_> ikonia, ok
[18:39] <Eduard_Munteanu> evince is pretty good actually
[18:40] <Eduard_Munteanu> Caelum: perhaps an office suite?
[18:40] <comodo_dragon> except that it cant get custom zoom. epdf view is better
[18:40] <Eduard_Munteanu> LibreOffice, say.
[18:40] <Rory> jboii: What Ubuntu version are you using?
[18:40] <jboii> Ubuntu 13.04
[18:40] <kostkon> Caelum, yeah there is even an office suite that tries to look like ms office if you are interested
[18:42] <comodo_dragon> ms office is good
[18:42] <kostkon> Caelum, you could replace libreoffice with this http://wps-community.org/
[18:42] <comodo_dragon> shame you cant stop cursor from blinkin in wine/
[18:42] <comodo_dragon> that stuff can give you seizures
[18:42] <kostkon> comodo_dragon, ?? which app/game?
[18:43] <comodo_dragon> msword ran in wine
[18:46] <merzak7> =)
[18:49] <pandaroot_> which is efficient virtualization technology to use to deploy multiple system  ?
[18:49] <kallops> how many gbs for swap
[18:49] <Galvatron> Hi
[18:49] <pandaroot_> i doubt virtualbox can be used for this purpose ?
[18:49] <pandaroot_> KVM would be the best choice ?
[18:50] <joshu_> I have an employee who has complained about weird artefacts on her laptop over the past week and she sent me a photo http://cl.ly/image/3m321b3A2J1g I know it's difficult to say but I'm suspecting a hardware fault perhaps the graphics card. I'm picking up the laptop and running diagnostics during the weekend, but I thought I'd ask for opinions or how to check if it might be an Ubuntu issue.
[18:51] <Galvatron> My 12.04.3 (Nvidia drivers) completely ignores xorg.conf and takes display settings directly from monitors.xml and \I have no idea how to change it.
[18:51] <ikonia> joshu_: check her video card and the xorg modules being used,
[18:52] <ikonia> Galvatron: what settings are you trying to change in xorg.conf that's it's ignoring ?
[18:53] <joshu_> ikonia for the video card when you say "check" you mean run HP diagnostics? for the xorg modules how and why would I do this?
[18:53] <ikonia> joshu_: no, I mean check what card is in there, then compare it against the xorg modules you're using and make sure it's the best option
[18:53] <Galvatron> ikonia: The resolution and refresh rate
[18:54] <ikonia> Galvatron: what makes you think it's ignoring it ?
[18:54] <joshu_> ikonia so even if the laptop has been working fine for 2 months and the ubuntu OS has not been modified, the artefacts could still be a result of the xorg modules?
[18:54] <ikonia> joshu_: sure, updates to happen, and usage can change,
[18:54] <ikonia> joshu_: it's also possible there is a hardware problem too, just work the problem through
[18:55] <Galvatron> ikonia: They get back to the monitors.xml values each time I restart X
[18:55] <ikonia> Galvatron: that doesn't mean it's ignoring it, or using monitors.xml
[18:55] <ikonia> Galvatron: how are you setting the values ?
[18:55] <joshu_> ikonia how do you compare the video card against the xorg modules?
[18:55] <Galvatron> ikonia: Through the Nvidia control panel
[18:55] <ikonia> joshu_: you look at what xorg modules are in use and check their supportability for the card you are using
[18:56] <Galvatron> I set them, save to xorg.conf reset X and I'm back on square one
[18:56] <ikonia> Galvatron: ok, so when you save the settings, are you %100 sure that xorg.conf is being updated (eg: it needs root privileges) check the datestamp on the file
[18:56] <joshu_> ikonia right but what I don't understand is how you "look at what xorg modules are in use"?
[18:56] <ikonia> joshu_: check the log file
[18:56] <joshu_> ok
[18:57] <Galvatron> ikonia: I'm absolutely sure
[18:57] <ikonia> Galvatron: how are you sure (I'm just understanding the problem)
[18:57] <joshu_> ikonia thanks
[18:57] <pandaroot_> which is efficient virtualization technology to use to deploy multiple system running different services  ?
[18:57] <pandaroot_> kvm or virtualbox ?
[18:57] <ikonia> pandaroot_: that's not a valid question
[18:58] <ikonia> pandaroot_: use which ever one you are comfortable using and which one meets your needs
[18:58] <pandaroot_> ikonia, sorry
[18:59] <Galvatron> ikonia: For example, in monitors.xml I have 1152x864_75 and in xorg.conf I have 1024x768_85 and the NV panel displays the former value.
[18:59] <ikonia> Galvatron: that doesn't mean you are certain it's saving to xorg.conf
[18:59] <pandaroot_> ikonia, in enterprise which one is used ? Currently i am setting up a local mirror and running webserver, so i want to virtualize those instances, on top  of my ubuntu server.
[18:59] <Galvatron> I'm certain
[18:59] <TJ-> pandaroot_: You might want to consider Xen if you're considering running multiple OS instances on a single host
[19:00] <pandaroot_> TJ-, ok
[19:00] <ikonia> pandaroot_: it's totlly up to you
[19:00] <ikonia> Galvatron: how are you certain
[19:00] <Galvatron> I can completely remove xorg.conf and the settings remain
[19:00] <BlazeFaia> Hey. I was wondering if it was possible to have Ubuntu not go into sleep mode upon shutting the laptop's lid from the login screen. If I log in and close the lid it works but from initially turning on the machine and closing the lid that doesn't work.
[19:00] <ikonia> Galvatron: that doesn't mean it's writing to the file - that means you've removed the file
[19:00] <Galvatron> ikonia: Gimme a sec
[19:01] <ikonia> Galvatron: just answer the question
[19:01] <ikonia> Galvatron: Its getting pretty tedious having to ask 3 times and you answering a different question
[19:01] <TJ-> pandaroot_: xen is a bare-metal hypervisor, rather than a full OS as with KVM and VirtualBox. LXC and OpenVZ are container-based and quite lightweight
[19:04] <jboii> can someone help me with apps stuck n dim display
[19:04] <Galvatron> ikonia:  I'm usunf 1152x864 @ 75Hz. Using the NV panel I can change it to whatever value I want and save it to xorg.conf. After I restart X, the set value (i.e. 1024x768 @ 85Hz) remains in xorg.conf, but the screen is back to 1152x864 @ 75Hz and that's what the NV panel shows.
[19:04] <sammy> so i've got this /etc/default/grub http://paste.ubuntu.com/6210528/ which I thought would hide the grub menu unless someone pressed a button during the 1second timer, but it shows instead. what am I missing?
[19:05] <ikonia> Galvatron: that doesn't validate anything
[19:05] <trism> Galvatron: something must have changed on 12.04 recently, because the exact same thing happened to me yesterday, nvidia started reading xorg.conf then ignoring it and setting the default dual-monitor value
[19:05] <ikonia> Galvatron: check the date stamp on the file
[19:05] <trism> Galvatron: I gave up and ended up deleting xorg.conf and using xrandr to switch things, would be interested if you find a bug report or anything (I didn't in a quick search)
[19:06] <ikonia> a simple test would be to enable/disable the nvidia logo, in xorg.conf and see if it displays it / disables it
[19:06] <ikonia> nvlogo is the option I believe
[19:06] <trism> the problem I had was nothing changed in xorg/nvidia driver since last month but this just happened this weekend, kind of strange
[19:07] <pandaroot_> TJ-, so first i will install xen on my machine and on top of it i will install the os ?
[19:07] <ikonia> pandaroot_: I suggest you do a LOT more research before going any futher
[19:08] <BlazeFaia> Anyone know of a solution to my query?
[19:08] <Galvatron> ikonia: I just changed the resolution, saved it to xorg.conf and the has changed: Modified: Tue 08 Oct 2013 09:06:42 PM CEST
[19:08] <Galvatron> So it definitely modifies the file
[19:08] <ikonia> Galvatron: great, so my next suggestion was to enable/disable the nvidia logo to see if it's being used for configuration
[19:09] <comodo_dragon> i want to install Iceweasel instead of FireFox on ubuntu 13.10
[19:09] <TJ-> pandaroot_: Ubuntu has xen-enabled kernels too ... see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Xen
[19:09] <comodo_dragon> !iceweasel
[19:09] <jack> all i did was "sudo apt-get install wine"...
[19:09] <Galvatron> ikonia: I can delete xorg.conf and nothing changes
[19:09] <comodo_dragon> huh this is outdated. icecat hasnt been updated since sept 2012..
[19:09] <jack> machine is unusable now for a while
[19:09] <Jarchy> ! Vlc
[19:10] <jack> grmbl
[19:10] <k1l> !saucy | comodo_dragon
[19:10] <ikonia> Galvatron: please stop repeating that - it proves nothing
[19:10] <pandaroot_> ikonia, ok sir
[19:10] <ikonia> Galvatron: read the test I'm suggesting.
[19:10] <pandaroot_> TJ-, i was just reading that link
[19:10] <Jarchy> Yah wopwop
[19:11] <Galvatron> ikonia: Ok
[19:11] <comodo_dragon> how do i install iceweasel? i cant get it working
[19:11] <OerHeks> comodo_dragon, ask in #ubuntu+1 as 13.10 is not out yet.
[19:13] <repudiate> How do I change the text in my terminal?
[19:14] <nb-ben> effin hell
[19:14] <nb-ben> nothing works with this lenovo G500
[19:14] <ikonia> nb-ben: tone it down, there is no need for it
[19:15] <repudiate> How do I change the text font in my terminal?
[19:15] <zykotick9> repudiate: do you mean console, or a Xorg terminal?  if xorg, which one?
[19:16] <repudiate> console i think?
[19:16] <zykotick9> repudiate: the f1-f6 ones?
[19:16] <repudiate> God, I hate the learning curve for Linux, even if it's only because I'll be a noob for so long.
[19:16] <vadi> Is it possible to upgrade to Files 3.8 on Ubuntu 13.04?
[19:17] <nb-ben> ikonia the only person with that ability is you
[19:17] <repudiate> zykotick9: The what?
[19:17] <Galvatron> ikonia: As expected, the logo doesn't react either
[19:17] <nb-ben> you're the interpreter of the text :p
[19:17] <ikonia> Galvatron: ok, so that's a good test
[19:17] <Rory> What option can I add to my ssh config to avoid having to use the -t flag to connect to a particular host?
[19:17] <ikonia> nb-ben: no - you said it, I'm not laughing, if you can't communite without suggesting swear words, please don't
[19:17] <blurkis> reö
[19:17] <Rory> Or how can I make it so I can run screen like "ssh hostname screen -dr" without having to do "ssh -t hostname screen -dr" - either method for the same result
[19:18] <blurkis> repudiate, for most people there should not be that much of a learningcurve,  most things just "work"..
[19:18] <Rory> repudiate: Every time you Google how to do something, and it works, you learned something
[19:18] <zykotick9> repudiate: is this in Xorg (the gui) or linux-console the all text windows which are typically, F1-F6 (F7 being Xorg)
[19:18] <repudiate> Rory: I've been realizing that.
[19:18] <replicasex> Hey guys, thanks for running this IRC!  I have a very small question about the Adwaita theme and using it in Ubuntu.  It seems like there are weird errors sometimes where they'll be a black background for the tabs in nautilus and in open dialogues.  Any ideas what's causing this?
[19:19] <trism> Galvatron: I think I might have figured it out, for me it seems it was bug 1236752
[19:19] <ikonia> Galvatron: out of interest, what was the parameter you set/how did you set it
[19:19] <repudiate> zykotick9: It's the linux console, I'm pretty sure.
[19:19] <trism> Galvatron: when I downgraded gnome-settings-daemon, xorg.conf was being used again...it must be gnome-settings-daemon overriding with xrandr
[19:19] <zykotick9> repudiate: then try "sudo dpkg-reconfigure console-setup" (i'm not sure how you can be "pretty sure")
[19:20] <repudiate> let's assume i'm right
[19:20] <repudiate> how would i change it
[19:20] <Marezz> Hi everyone
[19:20] <Rory> Hello Marezz
[19:20] <Marezz> How can I fix MBR and grub?
[19:21] <Marezz> I messed it up and I cant boot into system
[19:21] <Rory> !grub | Marezz
[19:21] <repudiate> zykotick9: it's asking me for my pass to install it
[19:21] <zykotick9> !fixgrub | Marezz
[19:21] <Marezz> reinstall wont help
[19:21] <Rory> Marezz: Use the first link
[19:21] <Galvatron> ikonia: Option "NoLogo" "True" in the "Device" section
[19:21] <ikonia> Galvatron: so that setting should not display a logo, did it display a logo ?
[19:21] <psycose> I have a DELL 15R, with UEFI and secure boot enabled, all was fine. I was able to boot using the bios (InsydeH20) UEFI menu. Today the boot lines concerning the disk disappeared, and I can not boot ubuntu any more ! any tips ?
[19:21] <zykotick9> repudiate: "install it"?  really, it should ask your password to "run" it.
[19:22] <replicasex> So -- graphical errors using Adwaita theme in Ubuntu 13.04.  Looks like this http://i.imgur.com/ZXBqHeS.png  the weird black background.  Any idea?
[19:22] <Galvatron> trism: Thank you very much. I will definitely try it, though in my case it started after playing a Wine game through the Windows version of steam.
[19:22] <Galvatron> My suspicion it that Wine (1.7.1. stable from the PPA) might have messed someing up.
[19:22] <repudiate>  zykotick9 oh
[19:22] <repudiate> then that's it
[19:22] <Wug> psycose: try jiggling the cable
[19:23] <repudiate> anyway
[19:23] <repudiate> what text is it using
[19:23] <repudiate> that's what i want to know
[19:23] <Galvatron> Of course, it might be only a coincidence.
[19:23] <repudiate> It's not there under Profile Preferences.
[19:23] <Wug> psycose: if the computer continues to fail to detect the drive, after doing things like moving it to a different SATA port, etc, the drive may be dead and need to be replaced
[19:23] <ikonia> Galvatron: so that setting should not display a logo, did it display a logo ?
[19:24] <Galvatron> Yes
[19:24] <repudiate> Apparently, the font is Ubuntu Mono
[19:24] <zykotick9> repudiate: if you are seeing a Profile Preferences this is NOT console, but an Xorg terminal...  the configuration is different!
[19:24] <repudiate> zykotick9: oh
[19:24] <ikonia> Galvatron: ok, so that's a good test, I'd get a bug logged for the detailing it
[19:24] <lamppis> How can I link some command to shorter command?
[19:25] <qbalazs> Does 'buntu have an equivalent to debian.org/ports? Trying to sort out a few things in the install guide, but either there isn't one, or I'm overlooking it.
[19:25] <repudiate> zykotick9: Is there any reason that I should use the Linux Console instead?
[19:25] <zykotick9> repudiate: NO
[19:25] <psycose> Wug, it's a laptop, I have been able to boot a ubuntu live using usb stick, I can see the data and the partitions on the disk. the laptop is fairly new.
[19:26] <Wug> psycose: try reinstalling grub
[19:26] <Wug> I can't remember how off the top of my head, I just google it when I need to do it, theres a million guides
[19:27] <Marezz> Rory, Its not working
[19:28] <Rory> Marezz: What part?
[19:28] <Rory> Marezz: Are you in a live environment right now?
[19:29] <replicasex> Anybody have an idea what would cause this weird nautilus/open dialogue thing in Adwaita?  http://i.imgur.com/ZXBqHeS.png
[19:29] <replicasex> Strange black background when I open more than one tab in nautilus.
[19:30] <skinux> How do we get binary apps downloaded as tarballs to show in search screen?
[19:31] <Jarchy> How do you remove cloud from your panel ?
[19:34] <Galvatron> trism: Unfortunately, it's not my case..
[19:34] <Jarchy> I am the invisible man
[19:34] <Galvatron> The demon has nothing to do with this
[19:34] <trism> Galvatron: ahh that is too bad, sorry about that, just seemed strange to both be having the same issue
[19:35] <zidoh> i've installed gnome-shell in ubuntu, but if i click on any settings from the top menu ("Date & Time settings", "Bluetooth settings", "Network settings") nothing appears.. anybody got any idea what can cause this?
[19:36] <Jarchy> Ur computer has an std
[19:36] <ikonia> Galvatron: test - in xorg.conf change the driver from "nvidia" to "vesa" and reboot - you will still get a desktop but the quality will be poor, see if this happens (you can always change it back)
[19:36] <rickyb98> holy cow 1791 users o.O
[19:37] <Galvatron> ikonia: OK
[19:40] <daninoz_z> hi, i installed today ubuntu 13.04 on my notebook, but the wifi speed is really slow. I think the wireless card chipset is a broadcom bcm43142
[19:40] <mnana3a> dan, check for any additional drivers
[19:42] <daninoz_z> mnana3a: I'm already using the additional driver.
[19:42] <skinux> This is probably nothing, but a few times when I've enabled WiFi on my Android phone, it seems something has gone screwy with my laptop. Anyone have info that makes it more than coincidence?
[19:42] <Galvatron> ikonia: No reaction. The NV driver loaded just fine.
[19:42] <marie__> Hello !
[19:43] <Rory> skinux: could be wireless interference, try changing your channel
[19:43] <marie__> I've a webcam who's not reconnized in Ubuntu
[19:43] <ikonia> Galvatron: so you changed the driver line in xorg.conf to be "vesa" not "nvidia" correct (note nvidia, not nv)
[19:43] <skinux> Nah, I mean screwy things like weird file permissions problems.
[19:44] <mnana3a> daninoz_z: what speed are you getting and what speed are you supposed to get?
[19:44] <Galvatron> ikonia: Yes
[19:45] <ikonia> Galvatron: so how are you verifying what xorg module / driver it's using ?
[19:47] <Galvatron> ikonia: Only "nvidia" and nouveau are capable of running Unity 3D, but in my case nouveau just doesn't work at all, for whatever reasons.
[19:47] <ikonia> Galvatron: I apprecaite where you are coming from - look in the xorg log to see what happens during startup and see if/why it selects the nvidia module when you've told it not to
[19:48] <daninoz_z> mnana3a: at least 5Mb, I'm getting 1.2Mb
[19:50] <mnana3a> daninoz_z: there is some solutions here http://itsfoss.com/speed-up-slow-wifi-connection-ubuntu/ you can try any of them, hope it will work out :)
[19:50] <Galvatron> ikonia: That's the log: http://pastebin.com/fCYg2M2f
[19:51] <phil_> hiho, I want to add a group to my current user, tried useradd -G groupname username, but it gives error user xy already exists
[19:51] <ikonia> Galvatron: ok, so it does parse the xorg.conf, what's in /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d ?
[19:51] <phil_> what am I doing wrong?
[19:52] <kostkon> Galvatron, nowdays you can run unity3d even without 3d acceleration using llvmpipe
[19:52] <ikonia> phil_: that's adding a user,
[19:52] <ikonia> phil_: usermod is what you want
[19:52] <flam_> phil_, usermod
[19:53] <phil_> ty ikonia flam_
[19:53] <vingin87> ciao
[19:53] <vingin87> !list
[19:53] <Galvatron> ikonia: http://pastebin.com/WAB5RZrC
[19:54] <ikonia> Galvatron: ok, so nothing that should conflict then
[19:56] <Galvatron> ikonia: It all started after playing a Wine game from Steam fullscreen.
[19:56] <ikonia> Galvatron: I can't see that having an impact unless it's changed the xorg packages or the nvidia packages when you installed the wine PPA
[19:57] <Galvatron> I've already wiped and reinstalled the whole X stack
[19:57] <ikonia> I can't see that having an impact
[19:57] <ikonia> (as I don't think x is broken)
[19:58] <Caelum> kostkon: thank you
[19:58] <Galvatron> Here's the kern.log from the boot when it failed to load VESA: http://pastebin.com/SfrndHvQ
[19:59] <ikonia> Galvatron: the only think of interest there is the loading of the nvidia module, which is not a bad thing
[19:59] <kostkon> Caelum, ;)
[20:01] <Galvatron> ikonia: But why it  doesn't load vesa?
[20:01] <Galvatron> ikonia:: It might have to do with Unity/GNOME itself?
[20:02] <ikonia> Galvatron: it's not loading vesa as it's loading nvidia because it's detecting it - why it's not overwriding it I don't know, can you please pastebin your xorg.conf ?
[20:04] <wizard_A> i already have a .ssh folder. But i want to start afresh. How do i deal this situation?
[20:04] <Galvatron> ikonia: http://pastebin.com/tWFJhu2U
[20:05] <ikonia> Galvatron: err it says  Driver         "nvidia"
[20:05] <ikonia> Galvatron: I asked you to change that to Vesa
[20:06] <Galvatron> I've changed it back to the original value.;)
[20:06] <ikonia> why /
[20:06] <Galvatron> All right, I will retry it
[20:07] <Rory> wizard_A: mv .ssh .ssh_old
[20:07] <ikonia> Galvatron: also where is the "nologo" option I asked you to use
[20:07] <wizard_A> and then, rm -f .ssh?
[20:08] <Rory> wizard_A: no, mv is "move"
[20:08] <Rory> wizard_A: You can rm if it instead of moving it, but moving it is in case you want it back
[20:08] <wizard_A> i meant after that. i already did that.
[20:08] <Rory> wizard_A: Well once you move .ssh to .ssh_old, .ssh doesn't exist any more so there's nothing to rm
[20:10] <wizard_A> oops my bad. :)
[20:10] <eer> Can one send emails to real mail accounts with the mail -s command or only to system accounts on the same box?
[20:11] <ibekks> eer: depends on wether you configured an MTA
[20:12] <Galvatron> Ikonia: Again, VESA hasn't loaded
[20:12] <ikonia> Galvatron: that is odd / frustrating
[20:12] <eer> ibekks, you mean I have to install postix or exim for example on my machine in order to be ablt to do that?
[20:12] <ikonia> Galvatron: maybe worth getting a bug logged, detailing this clearly
[20:12] <Galvatron> The OS doesn't care about xorg.care the least bit
[20:12] <ibekks> eer: you have to configure those after installing, too
[20:13] <nukleuz> Hi. Could anybody help me out a litle bit? I'm having a issue where my server is missing a PTR record in its dns record. This server is running several domains, all routed to the same nameserver; ns1.xx and ns2.xx - should I route the PTR record to those nameservers ....?
[20:13] <nukleuz> Using bind by the way.
[20:13] <Galvatron> ikonia: The only "reaction" to the changes is some flickering of the Unity launcher
[20:14] <ikonia> I wonder if that's the detection overriding it
[20:14] <Rory> eer: You can use your Gmail account to send email using "mail" there's a guide here http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/linux-use-gmail-as-a-smarthost.html
[20:15] <Rory> eer: It's probably easier than installing and configuring a MTA yourself, considering you needed to even ask
[20:15] <faio> !ciao
[20:15] <faio> !list
[20:16] <Galvatron> ikonia: X doesn't have some other plaec where it store's it configuration, some "super xorg.conf", or so?
[20:16] <Galvatron> A master config?
[20:17] <nukleuz> Galvatron; Are you asking me?
[20:17] <Galvatron> No
[20:18] <rickyb98> guys i always forget: how do you remove a non-empty folder via shell?
[20:18] <nukleuz> rm -rf
[20:19] <eer> Rory,  I prefer to learn how to configure one to using NSA mail accounts
[20:19] <ikonia> Galvatron: nope
[20:20] <rickyb98> thanks :)
[20:20] <ikonia> eer: please don't make things up about the NSA - it's tedious,
[20:20] <giorgos> Hi, I am trying to use GitEye and I get a message
[20:20] <giorgos> Gtk-Message: Failed to load module "canberra-gtk-module"
[20:20] <giorgos> /usr/bin/java: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libpangocairo-1.0.so.0: undefined symbol: cairo_ft_font_options_substitute
[20:20] <giorgos> Gtk-Message: Failed to load module "canberra-gtk-module"
[20:20] <giorgos> /home/giorgos/temp/GitEye/GitEye: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libpangocairo-1.0.so.0: undefined symbol: cairo_ft_font_options_substitute
[20:21] <giorgos> can you help me figure it out
[20:22] <eer> ikonia, you need the link to the patriot acts?
[20:23] <tozen> giorgos: sudo apt-get install libcanberra-gtk3-module works like a charm
[20:23] <Galvatron> ikonia: Thank you very much. Now I at least know that the issue is much more serious than I thought.
[20:23] <giorgos> I tried it
[20:23] <giorgos> it did not
[20:24] <ikonia> eer: no, I don't need a link, thank you
[20:24] <beeteecee> hey guys! my ubuntu 13.04 was lagging a bit and found this solution: http://askubuntu.com/questions/290913/ubuntu-running-slow-on-my-good-machine However, after I did this all my menus and launcher disappeared. I've tried many various ways to fix this (googled it) and nothing seems to work. I still get just my wallpaper when I log in. Any suggestions?
[20:25] <LiENUS> so I don't NEED a swap file but I want one just in case but i'd rather it be on my sdcard instead of the internal ssd, is there a way to get ubuntu to play friendly with removable swap? i added nofail to my fstab entry so if i boot up without it it should be fine but that doesnt help if it gets pulled and reinserted while its running (which with my swapiness set to 1 is generally safe)
[20:25] <LiENUS> and since my sd card isnt flush with the side of the laptop, possible
[20:25] <tozen> beeteecee: unity?
[20:26] <Wug> LiENUS: sounds like a great way to lose all of your work
[20:26] <beeteecee> tozen, tried everything with unity, enabled it. still no luck
[20:26] <Wug> how much ram do you have
[20:26] <LiENUS> Wug, 2gb
[20:26] <Rory> beeteecee: Can you switch to a different terminal with Ctrl+Alt+F1 and run the command: "sudo chown username: .Xauthority" - replacing username with your actual username
[20:26] <Wug> you're probably ok without swap
[20:26] <tozen> beeteecee: u r on unity?
[20:26] <LiENUS> Wug, yeah probably, but if i want to hibernate i need swap
[20:27] <LiENUS> also if im doing a lot of heavy work on my machine i might need swap (unlikely but possible)
[20:27] <beeteecee> tozen, mm.. I installed ubuntu 13.04 and didn't install any other stuff. so I guess I am
[20:27] <beeteecee> Rory, trying now
[20:27] <LiENUS> i suspect nofail and UUID instead of device paths is the best i'm going to get for ubuntu playing nice with 'removable swap'
[20:27] <LiENUS> i just wanted to make sure there isnt something more
[20:27] <tozen> beeteecee: try unity --replace
[20:28] <tozen> beeteecee:  or dconf reset -f /org/compiz
[20:29] <LiENUS> i found when browsing imgur i kept having firefox just close and im curious if it isnt hitting a ram limit so i wanted to do that a bit and see if its getting killed from lack of swap heh
[20:29] <Rory> LiENUS: If you run Firefox from the terminal, do you see an error when it crashes?
[20:29] <LiENUS> Rory, havent tried
[20:29] <beeteecee> tozen, unity-panel-service: no process found
[20:29] <calimero_82> hello
[20:29] <Rory> LiENUS: That's what I mean, try it now
[20:30] <beeteecee> Rory, chown invalid spec: username:
[20:30] <Spec> D:
[20:30] <LiENUS> Rory, now to browse imgur for about an hour heh
[20:31] <tozen> beeteecee: sudo apt-get install --reinstall unity-services ??
[20:31] <beeteecee> tozen, I think I've tried it. Trying again...
[20:31] <LiENUS> the best part is... this is going to end up a work machine i repaired and will eventually return to work when they replace my broken laptop so technically im getting paid to browse imgur "stress testing"
[20:31] <Rory> beeteecee: Please read my message!
[20:31] <tozen> sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop ??
[20:32] <Rory> beeteecee: Can you switch to a different terminal with Ctrl+Alt+F1 and run the command: "sudo chown username: .Xauthority" - replacing username with your actual username
[20:32] <beeteecee> Rory, sorry, doing that
[20:32] <calimero_82> i've ubu 12.04, in the unity-bar there's a icon (http), what's its  route? thanks
[20:32] <LiENUS> 2008 era laptop had a hd failure so i popped in a ssd and upgraded ram to 2gb heh
[20:32] <beeteecee> Rory, done
[20:33] <ryanw> Hi! How can I enable HiDPI in Ubuntu? Is it supported?
[20:33] <beeteecee> tozen, re-installed as well
[20:33] <MrKB> if I have an Ubuntu install on an HDD and I move that HDD from one computer to the other, will Ubuntu detect the change in CPU and RAM amount?
[20:34] <h00k> !6
[20:34] <MrKB> Will it report it under system details?
[20:34] <tozen> beeteecee: unity --reset-icons ??
[20:34] <Rory> beeteecee: Now switch back with Ctrl+Alt+F7
[20:34] <beeteecee> Rory, there. looks the same
[20:35] <Tyrantelf_> Hey
[20:35] <beeteecee> tozen, a lot of "compiz (decor) - a pixmap type decoration when compositing isn't available
[20:36] <eer> When using the atq command, is there a way to find out what a job is actually? all I get is the job ID:
[20:37] <Tyrantelf> Anyone have any ideas on how to make a single folder sync the files in it to multiple other locations, while leaving other files in the target directories untouched
[20:37] <Akuw> how can i open dbf files on gnu/linux?
[20:37] <beeteecee> Rory, any other steps or didn't your method work as well?
[20:40] <TJ-> Tyrantelf: rsync
[20:40] <Tyrantelf> any cross-server suggestions?
[20:40] <wylde> !rsync | Tyrantelf
[20:41] <Tyrantelf> awesome, thank you
[20:41] <Tyrantelf> awesome, should of thought of rsync... I've used to before
[20:41] <Tyrantelf> Just had a memory lapse
[20:42] <giorgos> Do you know why I would get this error
[20:42] <giorgos> symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libpangocairo-1.0.so.0: undefined symbol: cairo_ft_font_options_substitute
[20:42] <giorgos> from a third party app?
[20:42] <beeteecee> tozen, maybe this will help. when i do dconf reset -f /org/compiz/ I get the following error: erro spawning command line.... Child process exited with code 1
[20:43] <wiak> can i use >> and update a file on a ftp/sftp server?
[20:43] <BooeyOH> Should I be able to view another persons data using "sudo" if their home directory is encrypted?
[20:43] <giorgos> I am on 12.04
[20:43] <bekks> BooeyOH: No.
[20:43] <wiak> nope
[20:43] <wiak> their home is encrypted by their password
[20:43] <xtriz> kvm web based management that ubuntu supports ?
[20:43] <wiak> so even root cant see the data
[20:44] <wiak> xtriz vnc?
[20:44] <bekks> wiak: It is encrypted by a passphrase and the passphrase is encrypted with their password.
[20:44] <BooeyOH> bekks: so if I put test.txt in an encrypted home directory of user, and I, as another user do "sudo cat /home/otheruser/data.txt" and I see the contents of that file, does that mean it did not encrypt correctly?
[20:44] <wiak> or do you mean kvm the vizulation?
[20:44] <xtriz> wiak, no not through vnc
[20:44] <xtriz> some thing ilke webvirtmanager
[20:45] <xtriz> which ubuntu supports out of the box
[20:45] <bekks> BooeyOH: No. It did not even decrypt. :)
[20:45] <bekks> BooeyOH: Encryption is working correctly, you just never4 decrypt with sudo.
[20:45] <wiak> BooeyOH well the file has to be created by the user of the *encrypted* home
[20:45] <wiak> to be encrypted
[20:45] <BooeyOH> what if it is scp'd into the directory by the user
[20:45] <wiak> as far as i have understod
[20:46] <BooeyOH> (which is what I did)
[20:46] <bekks> wiak: Wrong. The file has to be created after the home is decrypted. No matter from whom.
[20:46] <bekks> BooeyOH: scp does not call a login shell. The home was left encrypted.
[20:46] <wiak> BooeyOH ask bekks, good luck
[20:46] <wiak> :P
[20:47] <wiak> xtriz there is a web gui for kvmm let me do some google fu
[20:47] <xtriz> wiak, i found out some, but wanted to know which one supports out of the box on ubuntu
[20:47] <bekks> wiak: either you use a webbrowser for googling, or for accessing a kvm interface like proxmox.
[20:47] <BooeyOH> bekks: ok, does this sound right?  I scp'd file into using enctest user.  I COULD see it with 'sudo cat [file]' while the enctest user was logged in, but as soon as the enctest user was logged out, I could not see it
[20:47] <bekks> BooeyOH: That sounds correct, yes.
[20:48] <BooeyOH> sweet, thank you sir!
[20:48] <bekks> BooeyOH: you're welcome :)
[20:48] <nukleuz> Can I create valid PTR records in BIND? Or do I have to contact my DataCenter, so they can create them?
[20:49] <TJ-> nukleuz: Only if you control the zone
[20:49] <xtriz> wiak, did you got anything ?
[20:49] <TJ-> nukleuz: Otherwise, its down to the controller of the sub-net
[20:51] <wiak> sorry no clue xtriz
[20:51] <wiak> http://www.cnblogs.com/panblack/archive/2013/03/04/webvirtmgr-a-kvm-web-management-tool.html
[20:51] <wiak> seems to be nice
[20:51] <wiak> but not sure it has vnc
[20:51] <wiak> most dont, i belive
[20:52] <wiak> so you have to set it up your self to work with vnc
[20:52] <wiak> https://www.webvirtmgr.net/ <- did you try that?
[20:52] <BooeyOH> bekks: what sort of encryption does the "built in" home dir encryption use for ubuntu?
[20:53] <wiak> BooeyOH google knows
[20:53] <xtriz> wiak, yeah i had mentioned that above
[20:53] <Dr_Willis> I bet its Rot-13 ;)
[20:53] <xtriz> wiak, this is the only solution supported well on ubuntu
[20:53] <wiak> ubuntu has many vnc servers soo ;)
[20:53] <wiak> xtriz good luck, i just use #digitalocean
[20:53] <wiak> :)
[20:54] <xtriz> wiak, what's that ?
[20:56] <wiak> xtriz VPS hosting, hehe, but they are a useful bunch :P
[20:56] <wiak> might be a better place to ask
[20:56] <xtriz> wiak, ok :) thanks :)
[20:56] <Dr_Willis> was using digital ocean for a while also. they are like $5 a month.  Worked well for my minimal needs.
[20:56] <wiak> they use KVM so
[20:57] <wiak> Dr_Willis: still using them, i love that i got free months*
[20:57] <wiak> :P
[20:57] <wiak> anyhow
[20:57] <Dr_Willis> I got like a month or 2 free ;) then kept them for another 3. but then i just iddent really need the service.
[20:57] <wiak> thanks for liniking to webvirtmgr :)
[20:58] <wiak> xtriz, it was something i need for my home server :p
[20:59] <xtriz> wiak, and Dr_Willis you guys use it to store data ? right ?
[20:59] <xtriz> or it's a VPS ?
[21:00] <giorgos_> sdad
[21:00] <Dr_Willis> I just used to run my ZNC server, and a bit of storage.
[21:00] <wiak> xtriz webste..
[21:00] <wiak> :P
[21:01] <wiak> http://nwgat.net
[21:01] <wiak> :)
[21:01] <wiak> FFF :P
[21:01] <wiak> oh more like JFF :P
[21:01] <xtriz> wiak, cool :)
[21:01] <wiak> aka Just For Fun
[21:04] <PingCELA> hey ubuntu
[21:04] <methodize> Hello, when i run lubuntu via livecd the radeon drivers are used and i get full resolution but vesa drivers are used after install because i use 'nomodeset' as a workaround to the black screen on boot issue. i have an ati hd 4650.
[21:04] <PingCELA> so mir is held back ...
[21:04] <gexarcha1> .
[21:04] <PingCELA> does that mean I can still tunnel my X server through ssh still?
[21:04] <pricey_> st
[21:06] <Vialas> hello everyone, how are you all?
[21:06] <Vialas> im having issues with "make"
[21:06] <Vialas> could anyone spare some time for me
[21:06] <Vialas> :$
[21:07] <kd5tkc> \o
[21:07] <Vialas> hi kd5tkc
[21:08] <Sonderblade> Vialas: write what your problem is and maybe someone can help you
[21:08] <Vialas> I am getting a weird error when trying to install "Cloud9 IDE"
[21:08] <Vialas> error is as follows after trying to "make"
[21:08] <Vialas> Build failed:  -> task failed (err #2):         {task: libv8.a SConstruct -> libv8.a}
[21:09] <kd5tkc> just a question, if i compile a program around my kernal and i update to a new kernal, that program will not work correct?
[21:09] <kd5tkc> i would have to rebuild the module
[21:09] <TJ-> Vialas: You'd need to ask the Cloud9 support, that's a Javascript (engine) issue
[21:09] <Mazin> Hello every body
[21:10] <vaurdan> Hey guys
[21:10] <Sonderblade> Vialas: try running the command again with -v
[21:10] <Mazin> I have a problem and i need help
[21:10] <TJ-> kd5tkc: Usually, yes.
[21:10] <kd5tkc> thought so thanks
[21:10] <Vialas> oh ok TJ-
[21:10] <vaurdan> I've a quad core i7 but my core 0 is having 75% load, while all other cores have 3-5% load... shouldn't be this symetric?
[21:10] <Vialas> oh what does that do Sonderblade ?
[21:10] <Vialas> verbose?
[21:10] <Sonderblade> yes
[21:11] <TJ-> vaurdan: Depends on the processes being run. A single-threaded process will 'hog' a single core
[21:11] <Vialas> roger
[21:11] <Vialas> Sonderblade thanks, ill do that and report back to you
[21:11] <Vialas> Sonderblade i never have any luck with the make command
[21:11] <Mazin> i have dell T420 and i wanna install ubuntu server on it but it failed to complete the installation
[21:11] <vaurdan> TJ-, sure, but shouldn't the SO use different cores for different processes?
[21:11] <vaurdan> instead of only using the first core?
[21:11] <vaurdan> *OS
[21:12] <TJ-> vaurdan: No. It's more power-efficient to run 1 core and let the others sleep
[21:12] <vaurdan> hmmmm that's a nice point of view
[21:12] <Gato> hi all, is recommended to add x-swat ppa in ubuntu 13.04??
[21:12] <TJ-> vaurdan: There's various reasons including, but not limited to, the choice of CPU governor
[21:13] <vaurdan> how can I set another governor?
[21:13] <Mazin> TJ i need help please
[21:13] <vaurdan> I would like to do some tests :)
[21:13] <vaurdan> I've my core 0 much hotter than other ones
[21:14] <TJ-> vaurdan: Use your search-foo to find info on CPU governors, here's one to get you started: http://askubuntu.com/questions/20271/how-do-i-set-the-cpu-frequency-scaling-governor-for-all-cores-at-once
[21:14] <eqwl> is it possible to scroll in terminal?
[21:14] <TJ-> !ask | Mazin
[21:15] <eqwl> iam using irssi client
[21:15] <Dr_Willis> eqwl:  if you mean does the IRSSI client have scrolling.. try pageup/pagedown, or shift pageup/down
[21:15] <k1l> eqwl: pageup doesnt work?
[21:15] <Dr_Willis> I perfer weechat to irssi these days ;)
[21:16] <eqwl> Dr_Willis k1l: Thanks :)
[21:16] <eqwl> it worked
[21:16] <k1l> well, irssi in screen is a classic :)
[21:16] <Vialas> ps make takes a long time :P
[21:16] <vaurdan_> sorry TJ- , xChat crashed... What did you said?
[21:17] <TJ-> vaurdan: Use your search-foo to find info on CPU governors, here's one to get you started: http://askubuntu.com/questions/20271/how-do-i-set-the-cpu-frequency-scaling-governor-for-all-cores-at-once
[21:17] <Dr_Willis> k1l:  its also fairly well documented. :)
[21:17] <TJ-> Vialas: Wait until you're building a BIG project... then you'll want distcc and a bunch of networked builders
[21:18] <Dr_Willis> hmm.. i wonder if i set up distcc on my pcs. and my raspberry-pi if it will be able to cross compile for the pi properly
[21:18] <Dr_Willis> oh wait. the disrto on the pcs will be ubuntu, not rasbian.. that may be an issue
[21:18] <delinquentme> easiest way to get the IP for a given uRL?
[21:18] <Usernam> Hello, I need some help setting up an ubuntu desktop, the only trick is that I need my entire /home directory intact and it needs to start at night and be fully functional by the next morning
[21:19] <Dr_Willis> delinquentme:  ping www.theurl.com
[21:19] <eqwl> I cant find my first message I wrote. why?
[21:19] <Dr_Willis> Usernam:  clarify that a bit more please.. you just need the pc to auto power on at night time?
[21:19] <eqwl> hi anybody ali
[21:19] <eqwl> could anybody find this?
[21:20] <Dr_Willis> eqwl:  find what? the history buffer is of a set size.
[21:20] <TJ-> Dr_Willis: Yes, you can use distcc for cross-compiling. I do.
[21:20] <Dr_Willis> TJ-:  yea. but with differnt disrtos - that may  be an issue?
[21:21] <Dr_Willis> took my pi like 5 hrs to compile Weechat the other day. ;)
[21:21] <Usernam> no, I need to install ubuntu (replacing my current linux distro) and it needs to be completely finished in the span of night.  with my whole /home directory intact
[21:21] <Vivekananda> hey everyone I have an nvidia G86M processor and I am trying to see if it can play some games or not. especially RE5 ( even at low specs). RE5 says it needs a min Geforce 6800Gt. how do I compare both these gpus?
[21:21] <Dr_Willis> Usernam:  #1 tip  - BACKUP your home just in case.
[21:21] <eqwl> Dr_Willis: that message I paste
[21:21] <eqwl> hi anybody ali
[21:21] <Vivekananda> Also I guess this is not the right place so please direct me to a good channel for this
[21:21] <eqwl> I paste this first. I cant find it
[21:21] <eqwl> wierd
[21:21] <Dr_Willis> Usernam:  whats your current disrto?
[21:21] <Usernam> Dr_Willis: That the plan
[21:22] <Usernam> my current distro is fedora 18
[21:22] <Dr_Willis> Usernam:  a MAJOR issue will be that fedora by default i belive uses lvm.  so you might have to backup your home to a nonlvm partion, or some other location and do a total repartion.
[21:23] <Dr_Willis> Usernam:  some guys last week had issues 'un-lvming' their old redhat/fedors installs..  seems theres a 'lvmscan' and 'lvmremove' command that needs to be used to unlvm the partions so gparted can repartion them
[21:23] <Dr_Willis> Unless you want to use lvm in ubuntu.
[21:25] <Usernam> What if I backed it up remotely? I have an old crappy laptop that already has ubuntu on it.  Would that work if I saved everything into tar archive and stashed it on there?
[21:26] <TJ-> Dr_Willis: It's usually "lvchange -an VG/LV" to inactivate the LV, and also if wanting to release the VG, "lvgchange -an VG"
[21:26] <eer> When I enter USB sticks they are not recognized anymore. Is there a way to restart the USB system without restarting the computer?
[21:26] <eqwl> what do you mean by "the history buffer is of a set size."?
[21:27] <Dr_Willis> TJ-:  all i know about lvm was what i found for some guy last week. ;) on askubuntu.com   he had aparently been fighting it for several days ;P
[21:27] <Dr_Willis> eqwl:  its not unlimited.
[21:28] <Dr_Willis> eqwl:  most likely its a few hunderd lines.
[21:28] <Dr_Willis> eqwl:  and the channel history buffer is differnt than your command history. (on the up arrow key)
[21:29] <eqwl> Dr_Willis: okay then I should find it. it was maybe 5 min ago
[21:30] <eqwl> how do I start weechat after installing it?
[21:30] <Dr_Willis> 'weechat' is the command
[21:30] <TJ-> Dr_Willis: I've come to love LVM, makes working with volumes a breeze
[21:30] <giorgos> I managed to remove this message  "Gtk-Message: Failed to load module "canberra-gtk-module" " by removing the libcanberra-gtk-module and libcanberra-gtk3-module
[21:30] <Dr_Willis> if using weechat - you DEFINATLY want to read the weechat docs.
[21:30] <eqwl> coudnt find the command thats why I asking
[21:30] <zykotick9> eqwl: try UpArrow to scroll though what you've previously typed
[21:30] <sam113101> eqwl: type weechat-curses in your terminal
[21:30] <Dr_Willis> TJ-:  i skimmed some info about ZFS the other day.. seems if it could be used - it sort of makes lvm a bit redundant. :) but i dont use either one.
[21:31] <Dr_Willis> eqwl:  tab completion :)  i always do 'wee<tab>'
[21:31] <giorgos> however, this "symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libpangocairo-1.0.so.0: undefined symbol: cairo_ft_font_options_substitute",  keeps coming up and crashing GitEye
[21:31] <Dr_Willis> there is a qt weechat front end out it seems. but ive never used it.
[21:32] <sam113101> curses it the best front-end
[21:32] <eqwl> nice client. almost like irssi but there is "users list" in weechat
[21:32] <eqwl> I like it
[21:32] <daninoz_> hi guys, i just installed ubuntu and after that the drivers for my wireless card bcm43142 from the first answer from here: http://askubuntu.com/questions/289609/dell-3721-wifi-problem-ubuntu-13-04 , but when I'm not close to the router, the speed is really slow, what can i do?
[21:32] <Dr_Willis> eqwl:  weechat has 10x the features of irssi
[21:32] <sam113101> weechat also has sane defaults
[21:33] <eqwl> zykotick9: I did and I still cant find it :/
[21:33] <Dr_Willis> eqwl:   i turn off the user list. ;) its sort of useless  in a channel with 1758 people
[21:33] <eqwl> Dr_Willis: Probably
[21:33] <eqwl> :)
[21:34] <Dr_Willis> i also got my weechat set where all the mode changes go to a differnt window. so i dont see all the ban floods and stuff.
[21:34] <Dr_Willis> even the 'names' printing to channel i got filtered out.
[21:34] <eqwl> Dr_Willis: what irc client is most used with linux?
[21:34] <Dr_Willis> eqwl:  definatly check out the weechat docs. an the 'smart filters' section
[21:34] <Dr_Willis> eqwl:  had to tell. xchat and irssi are the 2 common ones.
[21:34] <Dr_Willis> hard to tell. ;)
[21:35] <themill> !ops on-join spam from Solo_in_Casa
[21:35] <Dr_Willis> i  actually irc more from android (using andchat) then i do any of them
[21:35]  * themill glares at ubotto
[21:35] <Dr_Willis> themill:  :) might want to mention it in #ubuntu-ops
[21:36] <eqwl> Dr_Willis: okay :) I never know that you could write "wee"+TAB thanks for the advice
[21:36] <eqwl> sorry for my english btw
[21:36] <eer> Why does my USB stick show in the mountable Truecrypt devices but not under df -h ?
[21:36] <Dr_Willis> eqwl:  thats a bash thing. ;) tab completion works in most areas onthe shell  AND in weechat
[21:36] <Dr_Willis> !tab
[21:37] <Dr_Willis> eqwl:  also check out the /script  (or was it /scripts) command in weechat. the latest vweechat has a script manager built in. I like the color-nick matches the text script
[21:37] <Dr_Willis> eqwl:  and the iset script for setting  differnt settings
[21:37] <TJ-> Dr_Willis: LVM isn't a file system, its a very flexible volume container (think flexible partitions) that can be RAIDed, striped, snapshot-ed, and needs formatting with a file-system.  The best part of it for me is being able to resize an LV easily "lvresize -L +5G VG/LVname" then, say its ext4 file-system, "resize2fs /dev/mapper/VG-LVname" will do an online resize.
[21:38] <eqwl> Dr_Willis: okay. is it only ubuntu that support command like "wee+TAB"?
[21:38] <Dr_Willis> TJ-:  dosent mean much to me. :) i stick to simple setups.  in the last week thees been like 5 people in here (or the same guy with differnt nicks) trying to remove a redhat/fedora system
[21:38] <Dr_Willis> eqwl:  its a BASH feature
[21:38] <zykotick9> eer: df only shows what IS already mounted.
[21:38] <Dr_Willis> eqwl:  check out 'bash completion'  guides and docs online. for how it works
[21:38] <eer> zykotick9, thx
[21:39] <Dr_Willis> ubuntu has one of the most complete bash-completion setups ive seen
[21:40] <Armadillos> All my systems are running LVM
[21:41] <eqwl> Dr_Willis: okay
[21:41] <iceroot> Dr_Willis: and the default zsh completion is still much much better .)
[21:42] <Dr_Willis> Fish is better. ;) its 'friendly' says so in the description
[21:42] <Dr_Willis> !info fish
[21:43] <Dr_Willis> actually ive shown fish to some total linux beginners and they did like fish beter then bash. but i told them to learn both.
[21:43] <iceroot> Dr_Willis: sounds funny, i will have a look
[21:44] <Dr_Willis> it had a lot more interactive help i recall.
[21:44] <iceroot> Dr_Willis: like zsh i guess
[21:44] <Dr_Willis> !info qtrazor
[21:45] <Dr_Willis> Hmm. qtrazor seems to be in the  13.10 release.  thats new. :)
[21:45] <iceroot> Dr_Willis: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/02/Zsh_screenshot.png   zsh interaction by just pressing tab
[21:45] <iceroot> Dr_Willis: and of course you can navigate through that with the arrow-keys
[21:46] <eqwl> Dr_Willis: how do I scroll the "users list" in weechat?
[21:47] <Dr_Willis> eqwl:  no idea. as i said. i turn it off. theres a toggle userslist script i use
[21:48] <eqwl> Dr_Willis: may I ask, what do you mean by "toggle"?
[21:48] <Tylertwo> I want to create a keyboard shortcut on LXDE to "restore" a window. "Maximize" works to maximize a window, and "Iconify" works to minimize a window, but I don't know what key word is needed to restore (ie shrink to ~half size or whatever). Any ideas?
[21:48] <Dr_Willis> eqwl:  a light switch toggles the lights on or off.....
[21:49] <Dr_Willis> Tylertwo:  normally  you unmazamize the window and it goes back to where it was at befor I think
[21:49] <weston> Hello
[21:49] <weston> um
[21:49] <marcusmagnus> hello
[21:49] <Dr_Willis> thats how the Max button works here at least. :) no idea what commands do that - could be maxamize toggles btween the 2 states
[21:50] <eqwl> Dr_Willis: do you mean like a separate window?
[21:50] <Dr_Willis> eqwl:  what?
[21:50] <Tylertwo> Dr_Willis: "Unmaximize" worked! ty
[21:50] <Dr_Willis> Tylertwo:  ;)
[21:50] <eqwl> Dr_Willis: I meant toggle script
[21:50] <Dr_Willis> eqwl:  its a script.. it shows or hides the nick list
[21:51] <eqwl> if you had a separate window for the nick list
[21:51] <eqwl> Dr_Willis: aha okay
[21:52] <eqwl> bye
[21:59] <jboii> is it possible to theme ryhthm box??
[21:59] <crash_> HI. i'm trying to install a program via Software Centre but it's calling this problem : "Package dependencies cannot be resolved". ect. Any help?
[22:00] <jrib> crash_: use apt-get, pastebin full input and output
[22:00] <Dr_Willis> crash_:  id suggest trying it from the shell so you get better error messages
[22:00] <Dr_Willis> crash_:  start with a 'sudo apt-get update' 'sudo apt-get upgrade'  then try instal;ing the package
[22:02] <giorgos> about GitEye: It seems that if I double click the file from a  Nautilus Window it works just fine. If I execute it from the command line it crashes. Do you know how nautilus executes files. BTW, My problem is solved now but I am still curious as to what caused it
[22:05] <crash_> done. It's giving me this now. http://pastebin.com/a1wDUdLR
[22:08] <Dr_Willis> what disrto are you using exactly crash?
[22:09] <crash_> ubuntu
[22:09] <crash_> unity
[22:09] <Dr_Willis> and which version?
[22:09] <Dr_Willis> because those error messages seem a little odd. unless youve been messing with your repos.
[22:10] <crash_> 13.04
[22:10] <Dr_Willis> !info libc6
[22:10] <Dr_Willis> this a clean install or some upgrade?  you have any kde ppa's enabled?
[22:11] <crash_> clean install
[22:11] <Dr_Willis> you are trying to install k3b? thats the whole end goal?
[22:11] <Dr_Willis> done a 'sudo apt-get update' 'sudo apt-get dist-upgrade'  recently?
[22:12] <crash_> i cant say i know i have
[22:12] <Dr_Willis> Huh? id rerun the update/dist-upgrade again to be sure you have done it.
[22:12] <Dr_Willis> then try reinstalling k3b again
[22:13] <thunder_> "hello world"
[22:13] <deckard_> hello, is there a command to fix software center?
[22:13] <Dr_Willis> deckard_:  depends on whats broken i imagine.. thers no 'sudo fix-software-center' command that i know of.
[22:13] <txdv> hello, i dd'ed the ubuntu 12.04.3 i386 iso on a flash drive and booted from it, but it asks for a username and ubuntu:empty ubuntu:ubuntu doesn't work
[22:13] <thunder_> okay so i have a problem
[22:13] <deckard_> well, i can download some things but others i cant
[22:14] <Dr_Willis> txdv:  this is a server or desktop iso? You DID verify the md5sum befor you dd'd it? onlyh time ive sene it ask - was when the iso file was bad.
[22:14] <thunder_> so i am running ubuntu studio-32 bit
[22:14] <deckard_> wow,it work today,nevermind
[22:14] <Dr_Willis> deckard_:  try it from the command line, look for some meaningfull error messages we can read/help with
[22:14]  * Dr_Willis bets a update/upgrade fixed it..
[22:14] <Dr_Willis> ;P
[22:14] <thunder_> and when i run pulse audio server  i cannot use flash audio and skype at the same time
[22:15] <thunder_> any suggestions?
[22:15] <txdv> c4f4c7a0d03945b78e23d3aa4ce127dc  ubuntu-12.04.3-desktop-i386.iso
[22:15] <Dr_Willis> !skype
[22:16] <Dr_Willis> !md5
[22:16] <Jordan_U> thunder_: What release of Ubuntu are you using?
[22:16] <thunder_> well i am using 4.2 i think
[22:16] <thunder_> i am not sure
[22:16] <thunder_> but i tried the deb wor 12.04
[22:17] <thunder_> and it woulnt work at  all
[22:17] <Jordan_U> thunder_: There is no Ubuntu 4.2. "lsb_release -a" will give you information on what release you're using.
[22:17] <thunder_> i also reinstall lib sound
[22:17] <txdv> Dr_Willis: it is the flash drives
[22:17] <thunder_> but that didnt fix it
[22:17] <thunder_> yes
[22:17] <thunder_> well
[22:17] <thunder_> flash player
[22:17] <txdv> Dr_Willis: i am so full of hate towards them right now, because they are basically ruining my ubuntu install
[22:17] <thunder_> not drive anything flash based
[22:18] <Dr_Willis> txdv:  cant say ive had many issues with flash drives lately.. a year or 4 ago i had some that were flakey but these days.. most $5  4 gb usb drives work great.;)
[22:18] <thunder_> i was looking for some tutorials on how to configure jack with browser but i didn't come up with any good results
[22:18] <Dr_Willis> txdv:  there are tools at the pendrivelinux site that can setup grub2 on a usb and use it to boot iso files.
[22:19] <thunder_> dosn't grub 2 come automaticly with all linux installs
[22:20] <crash_> Dr_Willis managed to get another program to install, just to test. No hope with K3b though
[22:20] <txdv> Dr_Willis: i'm right now on windows, is there a tool for windows?
[22:20] <txdv> i mean im on ubuntu
[22:20] <thunder_> dish utility?
[22:20] <thunder_> disk
[22:20] <thunder_> or
[22:21] <thunder_> startup disk creater
[22:21] <txdv> startup disk creator is usb-creator-gtk and is bad
[22:21] <thunder_> their is also another
[22:22] <txdv> unetbootin doesnt work either
[22:22] <txdv> dd doesnt work either
[22:22] <thunder_> something like usb image writer or something along those lines
[22:22] <raven__> How do I make the unity menu display all of my installed apps and not just recent ones?
[22:23] <Dr_Willis> txdv:  check the pendrivelinux site and see what all they got - theres dozens of tools there
[22:23] <txdv> only for windows
[22:23] <thunder_> as for my question i think i might switch to the 64bit
[22:23] <Jordan_U> txdv: When you get a login screen is it text based or is it a GUI? What happens when you enter a username of "ubuntu" and no password?
[22:23] <superjoe> hi - I am trying to decrypt a gpg message and gpg seems to be hanging. it prompted me with gui to enter my key before but now it seems to be cached. how can I make it prompt me again?
[22:24] <txdv> Jordan_U: nothing, asks for the username and password again
[22:25] <Jordan_U> txdv: I asked two questions, you only answered one.
[22:25] <thunder_> i did?
[22:25] <txdv> it is a GUI, it does nothing
[22:25] <thunder_> what was the other question?
[22:26] <txdv> when I switch to console (shift+alt+f2) then it just says "AUthetnication failed" and doesn't let me even login
[22:26] <thunder_> okay txdv
[22:26] <thunder_> are you using the correct credentials?
[22:26] <Jordan_U> txdv: If it doesn't complain about the username or password being wrong then most likely what's happening is that the desktop session is failing to load. That is usually caused by graphics driver issues or a bad image, neither of which will change by using different tools to load the image onto a USB drive.
[22:27] <thunder_> i had that problem
[22:27] <thunder_> i had to kill xsession
[22:28] <txdv> Jordan_U: it does say that the password is invalid
[22:28] <txdv> tried ubuntu: and ubuntu:ubuntu
[22:28] <thunder_> is that the username you created?
[22:28] <OerHeks> name  ubuntu password empty
[22:29] <Jordan_U> txdv: Are you sure that you're actually booting from the LiveUSB and not some other hard drive?
[22:29] <thunder_> ^^
[22:29] <txdv> i am sure
[22:30] <txdv> there is only windows installed on the harddrive
[22:30] <thunder_> it might just be a bad write
[22:30] <thunder_> try rewriting the usb
[22:30] <sintrixx> gnome3 breaks my box.
[22:31] <Jordan_U> txdv: Did you do an md5sum check of the image?
[22:31] <txdv> yes
[22:31] <skinofstars> hi guys. i'm having terrible trouble with a fresh install. does anyone know how to boot to command line just once from grub2?
[22:31] <someking> hi, i'm having issues with my wifi connection. when i'm not close to the router the speed is really slow.
[22:31] <Jordan_U> skinofstars: Select "recovery mode" from the "Advanced Options" submenu.
[22:32] <txdv> serious fustrating
[22:33] <skinofstars> Jordan_U: ahh, and drop to root shell prompt. brilliant.
[22:33] <txdv> i hate flash drives from now on
[22:33] <someking> i have less than 1Mb and I should have at least 5mb. My notebook is a dell and the chipset of the wifi card is a broadcom bcm43142
[22:34] <wheatthin> someking, some times it really depends on how crowded your frequency is
[22:34] <wheatthin> lots of wireless activities no the 2.4 - 5GHz range
[22:34] <wheatthin> on*
[22:35] <someking> wheatthin: but it works well in the desktop pc and the cellphone.
[22:36] <wheatthin> someking, could just be the wireless card itself. What's it rated?
[22:37] <someking> wheatthin: where i can check that?
[22:37] <mydog2> afternoon...
[22:38] <zohan> good morning
[22:39] <zohan> some body can help me ??
[22:39] <wheatthin> !help | zohan
[22:40] <edran> Hello everybody. I need some help with a nasty laptop. I'm trying to install Ubuntu on a Gateway NV52L15u and I can't disable secureboot in the UEFI, because apparently it's locked. I've looked on the internet but I haven't found a way to disable it (I've already got a USB ready with 13.04). Does anybody know how to get rid of the bloody thing?
[22:40] <wheatthin> someking, lspci -v should tell you I believe
[22:41] <zohan> how about install nvidia geforce driver on ubuntu 12.04, my laptop is asus a43sd thx ????
[22:41] <wheatthin> zohan, simple..    sudo apt-get install nvidia-current
[22:41] <someking> wheatthin: it's bgn
[22:41] <zohan> exusme it's nvidia geforce 610m
[22:41] <zohan> then ...
[22:41] <zohan> how about test its
[22:42] <wheatthin> zohan, it's best to do the install and read. Perhaps the installer will give you a clue.
[22:43] <zohan> i already install the nvidia current, then what can I do for use my nvidia ?
[22:43] <zohan> please help me?
[22:43] <Snake2k> Hey guys, I need help with installing ubuntu 12.04, I'm installing via USB, I selected the 'Alongside windows thing' then it started copying files and asked me for stuff like username etc, after that was done and it was still copying, ubuntu had a kernel panic, now I get a black screen after continuing from the page before the ubuntu installation type selection.
[22:44] <wheatthin> !nvidia | zohan
[22:44] <jfmario> i have a rather noob question, is there not a way to bookmark conference rooms such as this in pidgin on ubuntu?
[22:44] <Rory> jfmario: Buddies -> Add Chat
[22:44] <zohan> !nvidia
[22:44] <Rory> jfmario: FYI it's called a "channel"
[22:45] <jfmario> well that was simple. I was looking to bookmark it from right-click
[22:45] <jfmario> thanks
[22:45] <cariveri> Hi. why does upping the network interface assigns the original ip instead of the one I intended?
[22:45] <Rory> Snake2k: Sounds like either the .iso file was corrupted, or it got corrupted while copying to the USB stick
[22:45] <Rory> !md5 | Snake2k
[22:45] <codephobic> hello
[22:45] <Snake2k> Rory: thanks I'll verify it :-)
[22:46] <codephobic> I think I've found a couple of strange "quirks" with gedit.
[22:47] <Rory> Snake2k: Then when you go to do the installation again, choose Custom partitioning. You will see two partitions, one ext4 and one swap. Use these for your "/" and "swap" partitions respectively
[22:47] <codephobic> when I launch the "open file" window, deep into a file structure, I find the folder chain thing keeps jumping about
[22:47] <codephobic> it makes it impossible to save or open a document, as a result.
[22:48] <codephobic> anyone experienced this?
[22:48] <jmknsd> my desktop just locked up, how do I find out what caused it?
[22:48] <Snake2k> Rory: they should be there because ubuntu attempted the install?
[22:48] <Rory> Snake2k: That's right yes, the first thing it does is partitiniong
[22:49] <Snake2k> Rory: thanks!
[22:50] <jmknsd> compiz crashed earlier when I restarted the networking, then it wouldn't sleep. Not sure what has caused this recent instability.
[22:52] <jmknsd> aah, in /var/log/kern.log I see "[drm:i915_hangcheck_hung] *ERROR* Hangcheck timer elapsed... GPU hung
[22:53] <jmknsd> any ideas what caused my GPU to hang?
[22:54] <kostkon> bug 946899
[22:58] <raven_> Okay so I've just realized youtube videos and any sort of sound out of chrome and google music don't work, but only when I'm in a skype call?
[22:58] <krabador> hi people, how was the reinstall for apt-get?
[22:58] <krabador> i need to reinstall a package, what was the apt-get comand?
[22:58] <kostkon> krabador, apt-get reinstall or apt-get --reinstall?
[22:58] <krabador> kostkon,
[22:59] <kostkon> krabador, eeer apt-get install --reinstall
[22:59] <krabador> it's the correct syntax?
[22:59] <kostkon> krabador, apt-get install pacakge_name --reinstall
[22:59] <krabador> kostkon, thanx
[23:00] <kostkon> krabador, give a sudo apt-get autoclean or sudo apt-get clean before giving sudo apt-get install to make sure that it will download the file again and not use the cached one, if there is one
[23:00] <chowder> installed Ubuntu with LVM and luks. Trying to install Xen so I can run Windows 7 in a vm (wine isn't doing the trick this time). I'm on a liveUSB right now. I'm wanting to decrypt the disk and then resize Ubuntu's logical volume because its taking up the whole disk. After this I want to create another volume to install Windows under. Does this make any sense?
[23:02] <raven_> Okay so I've just realized youtube videos and any sort of sound out of chrome and google music don't work, but only when I'm in a skype call?
[23:03] <popeye22> hi i am looking for a software that would help me save images and from a forum like open thumnail and save images would somebody know something that would help me ?
[23:03] <chowder> raven_: what version of Ubuntu are you running?
[23:03] <raven_> chowder 12.04
[23:03] <kostkon> raven_, is it ubuntu?
[23:03] <raven_> kostkon ye
[23:03] <raven_> s
[23:03] <Diamondcite> raven_: is skype and chrome going through pulse audio? Or using direct access via Alsa?
[23:04] <raven_> diamondcite how do I find that out
[23:04] <chowder> popeye22: are you looking for a graphical program to do that? Normally when I want to save something from any webpage I just right click and download it.
[23:04] <Diamondcite> raven_: Supposedly, if you open up sound properties, it should show which app is trying to use sound right now. if you hear sound, but don't see the app there, then it's avoiding pulse audio.
[23:05] <acidrainjr> hey im having problems with my software updater
[23:06] <chowder> S.O.S. anyone ever worked with Xen? I'm running 13.10 final beta. luks over LVM. looking for some help decrypting LVM partition and then resizing volumes. Currently on a live USB of 13.04. Can anyone help?
[23:07] <raven_> diamondcite using pavucontrol (which I installed myself) I look at playback tab and I see three instances of chromium but no skype
[23:07] <jmgk> hi all
[23:07] <jmgk> for Xchat do you have it on Tree view ?
[23:08] <popeye22> chowder i am looking for a program that would open and save every images from forum pages because opening right click and save image would take like forever
[23:09] <raven_> also here's another thing. When I try to play music through pithos while on a skype call it stays at 0:00 and doesn't move
[23:09] <popeye22> chowder like an images vacuum
[23:12] <chowder> popeye22: look up a firefox extension called DownThemAll
[23:12] <chowder> popeye22: lets you download everything off a website. You can use filters to only download images or music or w/e you like.
[23:13] <popeye22> thank i will give it a try
[23:13] <boooossss> Hey, I'm wanting to dual boot along side win8. Is it best to manually create a partition using windows or should i just install using the side by side method on the cd?
[23:14] <SteveH_> I clobbered myself by not thinking thru a rm -r /var/lib/* command.  I reinstalled 12.04, and have slowly built back up.  However, my Unity sidebar has a problem whereby some of the icons do not show.  The pop-out names are there, but no icon.  Missing icons include terminal, BackinTime, Workspace Switcher, System Monitor and Trash.  They work, but are invisible.
[23:14] <acidrainjr> hey i need a little help
[23:15] <acidrainjr> my software updater isnt working correctly its glitching
[23:17] <chowder> boooossss: you should use the Ubuntu install CD to set apart a space for Ubuntu. If you have a 500GB HDD make a 250GB NTFS partition. Have Windows install into that. Reboot with Ubuntu liveCD. Install Ubuntu. Windows will be automatically added to GRUB
[23:18] <boooossss> Thanks chowder
[23:18] <chowder> is there an Ubuntu channel for more advanced users?
[23:18] <chowder> boooossss: no problem
[23:19] <raven_> chowder, any idea?
[23:20] <wilee-nilee> chowder, There are specific ubuntu channels none are rated by skill levels.
[23:20] <raven_> wilee-nilee! You're on here a lot aren't you
[23:21] <wilee-nilee> and what's you definition of advanced anyway, lol
[23:21] <wilee-nilee> raven_, way to much. ;)
[23:21] <raven_> wilee-nilee care to help me with my problems?
[23:22] <chowder> wilee-nilee: well if one of the Ubuntu channels was for developers it would imply that the people there have a deeper understanding of the OS
[23:22] <chowder> wilee-nilee: that's what I'm asking. Not if one of the channels is specifically labeled "*buntu-experts channel"
[23:22] <wilee-nilee> raven_, If I see you post and I think I have an answer I will post right now I'm just on the channel doing some other things is all.
[23:23] <raven_> While in a Skype call, any application that tries to play music stays at 00:00. Additionally there is no sound coming from Chrome when playing YouTube videos, etc. But only when in a Skype call. Pavucontrol does not identify Skype at all.
[23:23] <monkeyjuice> chowder: #ubuntu+1
[23:23] <chowder> monkeyjuice: thank you
[23:23] <wilee-nilee> chowder, I believe there is a developers channel, but I think it is by invitation, many on al these channels are at that level, but need not advertise it.
[23:24] <kd5tkc> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=htjJH8InnsQ
[23:24] <kd5tkc> great music
[23:24] <chowder> wilee-nilee: yeah I'm aware of how IRC works. I just have an issue getting Xen running
[23:25] <wilee-nilee> raven_, I will say though that I use my W8/XP/ and W7 setups for windows stuff and linux for linux, some things run better in each, they are all OS's to me, I just happened to start with open source originally
[23:26] <wilee-nilee> chowder, You well aware, yet you ask questions than respond in a aggressive manner, isn't that special.
[23:26] <raven_> wilee-nilee are you sure you meant to direct that at me?
[23:26] <kd5tkc> I come across the same... Linux is all my desktops OS but there are some applications that are better run on windows
[23:26] <raven_> wilee-nilee you're saying that skype just won't run well in linux
[23:26] <chowder> wilee-nilee: you're useless.
[23:27] <wilee-nilee> raven_, Yes, for example I would not bother with skype in linux, it runs great in windows, is all I basically meant, they own it now.
[23:27] <kostkon> raven_, skype runs fine on linux
[23:27] <kd5tkc> EX, a old game called CIVILITION cant seem to get it to run properly in wine
[23:27] <kd5tkc> CIVILIZATION
[23:27] <kd5tkc> sorry
[23:27] <raven_> kostkon I can agree that it does, it ran fine under Mint 13. I just switched to Ubuntu 12.04 and only now do I have problems
[23:28] <wilee-nilee> ease of travel, not an argument of compatibility, is my point
[23:28] <chowder> raven_: I run skype in Linux. The issue may be with the sound card you're using or the driver.
[23:28] <kostkon> raven_, im not sure why skype is blocking audio, it should work fine.
[23:29] <kd5tkc> skype runs fine on my linux system
[23:30] <kostkon> raven_, have you by any chance made any changes to your audio setup or skype
[23:30] <Scunizi> I'm looking for a program to create "shapefiles" which are overlays on maps like openstreetmaps.  Is there anything in the repos that will do this?
[23:31] <SteveH_> I clobbered myself by not thinking thru a rm -r /var/lib/* command. I reinstalled 12.04, and have slowly built back up. However, my Unity sidebar has a problem whereby some of the icons do not show. The pop-out names are there, but no icon. Missing icons include terminal, BackinTime, Workspace Switcher, System Monitor and Trash. They work, but are invisible.
[23:32] <jmgk> hi Dr_Willis
[23:33] <jmgk> lol your on a phone
[23:33] <Dr_Willis> actually im on my netbook hot-spotted to my phone.
[23:34] <chowder> Scunizi: tried using google? The repositories are huge and most people won't be able to tell you if "X" is in the repos off the top of their head
[23:34] <raven_> kostkon I think I've got it
[23:34] <kostkon> raven_, plase do share
[23:34] <raven_> kostkon skype is accessing alsa directly and blocking pulse
[23:35] <raven_> as soon as I end a skype call the music starts playing
[23:35] <kostkon> raven_, why is that. it shouldn't be doing that
[23:35] <kostkon> raven_, how did you install skype
[23:35] <raven_> kostkon I installed via skype's website
[23:35] <raven_> the .deb
[23:35] <raven_> it isn't in the repos
[23:36] <trism> Scunizi: maybe grads ? just from a quick search
[23:36] <kostkon> raven_, it is. you just need to enable the partner repo
[23:36] <trism> !info grads
[23:36] <raven_> kostkon how do I do that
[23:36] <kostkon> raven_, did you download the 12.04 multiarch deb?
[23:36] <raven_> kostkon yes
[23:37] <kostkon> raven_, ok just checking
[23:37] <Scunizi> chowder trism I've been using google and following links for a couple of hours.. there's lots of reference but nothing that describes how to or with what to create a shapefile.. frustrating. I was hoping someone else had attempted this.
[23:37] <raven_> kostkon let me do a full reinstall. How do I remove everything involved with skype
[23:37] <raven_> do I do sudo apt-get purge skype
[23:38] <trism> Scunizi: I only mentioned grads because I did an apt-file search from shapefiles and found: /usr/share/doc/grads/html/shapefiles.html in the grads package
[23:38] <kostkon> raven_, open the software centre, search for skype and remove it. then from the menu, select edit -> software sources and in the 3rd part software tab and enable the partner repo
[23:38] <trism> Scunizi: and the description sounded about right
[23:38] <raven_> kostkon when I open the software center and search for skype it isn't there
[23:39] <kostkon> raven_, in terminal give: apt-cache policy skype
[23:39] <raven_> kostkon PM'd you the output
[23:40] <Scunizi> trism: I see that now.. however it looks like it's for viewing a dataset and not creating one. I'm trying to create a map overlay showing a shaded area or several shaded areas
[23:41] <chowder> Scunizi: sorry. I have no experience with the program you mentioned.
[23:42] <Scunizi> chowder: no worries.. thanks
[23:43] <raven_> kostkon I purged skype and enabled partner apps but it still doesn't show up in ubu software center
[23:43] <kostkon> raven_, try giving first a: sudo apt-get update
[23:43] <kostkon> raven_, close the software centre if it is open
[23:43] <raven_> kostkon good call hold on
[23:44] <Dr_Willis> raven_:  way to  'common' a problem. ;)
[23:44] <Lars_> ?
[23:44] <raven_> Dr_Willis ?
[23:44] <trism> Scunizi: hmm, http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Shapefiles has qgis listed, which we also have, you just apparently have to enable the osm plugin
[23:44] <raven_> Oh you mean too* common a problem
[23:44] <trism> !info qgis
[23:45] <raven_> kostkon still no go
[23:45] <raven_> kostkon it's not in the repos
[23:45] <Lars_> Hey i can get internet on my ubuntu machine
[23:45] <kostkon> raven_, apt-cache policy skype   again
[23:45] <raven_> kostkon PM
[23:46] <Lars_> Hello?
[23:46] <Dr_Willis> i must see a dozen people in here a week that have apt issues that are fixed by apt-get update, apt-get upgrade.
[23:46] <Dr_Willis> Hello Lars_
[23:46] <Lars_> Hey i can get internet on my ubuntu machine
[23:47] <Lars_> Hey i can get internet on my ubuntu machine Help!
[23:47] <Scunizi> trism: looking at that now.. When I search synaptic for qgis I get a couple of packages listed but don't look like the gui version
[23:48] <monkeyjuice> im thinking the can is a cant in Lars_ message
[23:48] <Ben64> !patience | Lars_
[23:48] <Ben64> !details | Lars_ this too
[23:48] <Scunizi> trism: however there is a ppa for the most recent.. http://www.qgis.org/en/site/forusers/alldownloads.html#ubuntu
[23:48] <Dr_Willis> Lars_:  with the right hardware and drivers.. yes.
[23:48] <trism> Scunizi: I think it should just be: sudo apt-get install qgis; it lists qt as a dep, so should be a gui
[23:49] <Scunizi> trism: doing an apt-cache search shows the same at synaptic.. qpx2shp & qLandkartegt
[23:49] <Scunizi> *as
[23:50] <trism> Scunizi: are you on 12.04? I see now it wasn't added until 12.10
[23:50] <Lars_> Oh. ok. so im running the latest version of ubuntu dual booting a xp copy it tells me that it cant find internet drivers or a card or something
[23:51] <Lars_> hg
[23:51] <Dr_Willis> Lars_:  and what is your network card exactly?
[23:51] <Lars_> sorry my cat got on my keyboard lol!
[23:52] <Lars_> oh Dr_Willis . i cant tell its in side my pc
[23:52] <Lars_> OH for some reason it decidid to work now.
[23:53] <Scunizi> trism: yes.. I like to stick with "stable-er" releases.. it's my work machine.
[23:53] <Scunizi> trism: getting the unstable version from the ppa now.. there's a number of files.