[03:55] <fu-fu_> So, anyone know a quick way to get packages for jaunty..? (Everything broke, my fault. This is the only linux disk I still have.)
[03:56] <Poisoned_Dragon> Jaunty?! How old is that?
[03:56] <fu-fu_> if ls -l / is anything to go by.. from 2009.
[03:56] <cfhowlett> fu-fu_, why?  end of life!  get a supported version and install.
[03:58] <fu-fu_> All I need is a quick fix, to get qemu so that I can fix btrfs in a vm and not have it crash my pc everytime I try anything.
[04:00] <cfhowlett> fu-fu_, perhaps "end of life" means something different where you're from ... :)
[04:04] <Poisoned_Dragon> fu-fu_, Google is your friend because, you're not going to get support for an end of life release here.
[04:04] <fu-fu_> I realized that, saddly I keep getting "Domain not found" when I go to google :/
[04:05] <Poisoned_Dragon> how can you get domain not found for google, if you're here?
[04:07] <fu-fu_> I have no idea, but I just tryed duckduckgo and it seems to work.
[04:10] <Poisoned_Dragon> Why stay on Jaunty for so long?
[04:13] <fu-fu_> I'm not staying on it, I just broke my arch linux install and this was the only disk I had at hand... I've given up trying to use it for anything more than downloading a new image to put on a flashdrive.
[04:15] <Poisoned_Dragon> oooooh... lol
[04:15] <cfhowlett> fu-fu_, you're on the internet, so you have access.  download a supported image and we can help
[04:15] <Poisoned_Dragon> probably as simple as giving him a address to wget with
[04:16] <cfhowlett> www.ubuntu.com  ???
[04:16] <Poisoned_Dragon> No.... the link to an iso he want's to download.
[04:16] <Poisoned_Dragon> His DNS is being retarded.
[04:16] <cfhowlett> Poisoned_Dragon, beyond my skillset ...
[04:16] <Poisoned_Dragon> what did you want to install, fu-fu_?
[04:17] <fu-fu_> xD, no I think my ISP or router is, my dns is working for everything else. (I am currently downloading the LTS of Xubuntu)
[04:17] <Poisoned_Dragon> Ah
[04:17] <Poisoned_Dragon> So, you're already golden.
[04:17] <cfhowlett> brilliant!
[04:18] <Poisoned_Dragon> How did you manage to break your arch install?
[04:18] <Poisoned_Dragon> Not that it's hard to do, or anything.
[04:19] <fu-fu_> Uhh, Don't run a virtual mechine, of /dev/sda when you booted from /dev/sda... It's more of a broken btrfs.
[04:19] <Poisoned_Dragon> What the hell, virtual partition inception?
[04:21] <fu-fu_> Virtual partiton? Nah. Just the same one being used twice, at the same time... basically all the open files in both mechines.. broke/vanished/weird btrfs/nfs bug.. (Odd, as it isn't a nfs...) so.. most of /lib and some of /bin
[04:23] <fu-fu_> I also broke my other install.. btrfs device add /dev/zram0 + crash = broken btrfs image.
[04:23] <Poisoned_Dragon> heh
[06:44] <xubuntu928> i am planning to try xu 13.10 pre-release on my laptop. does this release support uefi laptops?
[06:44] <bazhang> !saucy | xubuntu928
[06:45] <bazhang> xubuntu928, /join #ubuntu+1
[06:45] <xubuntu928> reason i ask rather than download and try it out is because my network connection is very slow
[06:45] <elfy> xubuntu928: it should do - but this isn't the channel to ask about it :)
[06:46] <xubuntu928> where should i ask about that @elfy?
[06:46] <elfy> read the comments just above ;)
[06:47] <Polyolyver> Hiya! I'm a Windows geek and Linux newbie; just installed Xubuntu on my secondary desktop. When I start some applications (so far, whatever browser was the default (since changed to Chromium with no probs), and Virtualbox), it instantly hard freezes, with a corrupted display (a repeating series of pixels, so there's a randomish pattern on the screen) - only solution is to hard reboot. Any pointers on where to start with this?
[06:47] <bazhang> xubuntu928, ------------>  #ubuntu+1   <-------------------
[06:47] <xubuntu928> oops! i am completely new here, @elfy. can u plz tell me what is this channel for?
[06:48] <xubuntu928> @bazhang, thanks for the redirect. but, i am interested in xubuntu not ubuntu. would #ubuntu+1 still be the right channel for my question?
[06:48] <xubuntu928> sorry if i am bothering you guys.
[06:48] <elfy> xubuntu928: read the topic :)
[06:48] <bazhang> xubuntu928, all go there
[06:48] <elfy> xubuntu928: ubuntu+1 is the dev version channel
[06:48] <bazhang> xubuntu928, kubuntu xubuntu ubuntu all go there
[06:49] <xubuntu928> ok! got it guys. thanks so much for your help.
[06:49] <elfy> xubuntu928: if you actually want to help with development - then we have #xubuntu-devel , but that is not a support channel
[06:50] <xubuntu928> i am on irc for the first time. :) and i am using the web interface from xubuntu.org. so, i will read up before posting questions next time. sorry! and thanks
[06:50] <elfy> welcome :)
[06:53] <Polyolyver> (just to add: even knowing the terms to search for would be helpful to me... Also, I added a keyboard shortcut I read about somewhere - don't have offhand, but CTRL-ALT-BACKSPACE to kill X or Xwindow or... I haven't learned what I'm killing yet -- but point is, the shortcut works and kicks me to a login window, but it doesn't work when this freeze happens -- if that helps)
[06:55] <elfy> Polyolyver: what graphics card, how much memory cpu etc you using?
[07:01] <Polyolyver> Sorry, the wife called for a quick favor. GeForce LE 6150, I think I have 4GB but might be 2GB RAM, and... I don't remember the processor offhand. Is there a way to see what Xubuntu thinks like you can in Windows? I can tell if it's right or not, but it's been too long since I got this box...
[07:03] <Polyolyver> AMD Sempron LE 1250
[07:03] <Polyolyver> Forgot the BIOS tells ya... I'm a software guy in my defense :)
[07:04] <elfy> lspci in a terminal
[07:04] <Polyolyver> and 2GB of ram...
[07:04] <elfy> will list pci cards
[07:04] <Polyolyver> getting back into OS to see what that says :)
[07:04] <elfy> vbox is likely to stutter a bit with ram I'd suspect
[07:08] <Polyolyver> ah, right, GeForce 6150SE nForce. heh. Crappy card.  Hmm... I'd be fine with it stuttering if that means slow - it's intended as a crutch because I want to switch to Linux for my desktop as I do 90% of my stuff in Chrome anyway... but I do sometimes need Windows-specific stuff... But the main concern right now is Xubuntu locking up on app launch (whichever the default browser was did the same thing at launch)
[07:08] <Unit193> GeForce 6150SE nForce 430?  Not hit that myself, same ram too.
[07:09] <Unit193> I'd say ssh in from another computer, check dmesg and logs in /var/log/
[07:10] <Polyolyver> like... tail /var/log/dmesg from another box and start the app to see what I get?
[07:11] <Unit193> dmesg is a command, and there's a syslog, xorg, and kernel logs in /var/log/
[07:12] <Unit193> (dmesg is in /var/log/ too, but still. :P )
[07:14] <Polyolyver> ahh, was confused b/c I see /var/log/dmesg, and it doesn't look like an executable to me. hehe.
[07:14] <Polyolyver> Is SSH enabled by default? Checked my IP with ifconfig, tried to SSH and connection refused...
[07:15] <Unit193> Nope.  I suppose that's not one of the first things everyone sets up.  Do TTYs work?
[07:16] <Polyolyver> I've never used a TTY before.
[07:17] <Unit193> !tty
[07:17] <Unit193> (Also, I'm about to head out, so hopefully elfy is still around.)
[07:18] <Polyolyver> tty1 apparently works; shows a login, 'starting crash report submission daemon', and that's it
[07:18] <Polyolyver> others show login prompt
[07:18] <Polyolyver> Is this a question of if it works when things are otherwise apparently frozen?
[07:19] <Unit193> Yes.
[07:19] <Polyolyver> I'm slow on the uptake sometimes. Checking...
[07:19] <Polyolyver> a-ha. Negative, they do not appear to work when locked/frozen (which state I am now in again)
[07:20] <Polyolyver> I'll sit here a sec in case you want me to try something else :)
[07:21] <Unit193> Bummer.  Well, I'd check the logs after reboot then, starting with syslog to see what's up.
[07:21] <Polyolyver> okies, rebooting
[07:21] <Polyolyver> Also, please don't wait around for me - whether anyone else is around or no, I have a borrowed box to work on, so this is something I'd like to try and solve, but not an emergency :)
[07:22] <Unit193> Yeah, I'm heading out now as my head is killing me.
[07:22] <Polyolyver> Thanks mightily for your help :) Hope your head feels better soon!
[12:32] <xubuntu040> hi
[12:32] <bgardner> xubuntu040: Hello
[13:17] <nextloop> hello. i am on xubuntu 13.04.  i use a vertical sidebar with a tasklist. now i want to rotate the tasklist so that the text appears horizontal. how to do that. setting /plugins/plugin2/rotate-vertically does not not show any effect
[14:13] <nyker> how to sync ipod touch ios 6 to xubuntu?
[14:15] <ElFizbanio> you shouldn't
[14:16] <M4rdukBR> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PortableDevices/iPod
[14:25] <kRush> my user created during installation is in groups adm cdrom sudo dip plugdev lpadmin sambashare, where can I find what membership in each of these groups actually does? a newly created user is in none of them and I wonder where I need to add him
[14:30] <baizon> kRush: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Users_and_Groups
[14:31] <xubuntu866> Hello everybody, can somebody please explain why I'm getting black screen (fivth time) when trying to install drivers for AMD 7950, tried via software center and terminal
[14:32] <xubuntu866> No luck either by installing fglrx on software nor via AMD website...
[14:39] <Morrog> is anybody a gtk theme specialist here?
[15:21] <pinkydw> having an issue with installing xubuntu on a hardware raid, not sure I'm partitioning/formatting the array correctly.  I keep getting an error saying that it can't setup the swap area.
[15:22] <pinkydw> if it matters, trying to dual boot win7 for gaming
[15:26] <baizon> pinkydw: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SoftwareRAID
[15:27] <pinkydw> thanks, I'll read through it when i get home
[17:14] <gdos> i am getting a permission denied error when attempting to move stuff to the trash can (using thunar).
[17:22] <GridCube> are you using thunar with root?
[17:38] <gdos> no.
[17:58] <church> Is there any way to get mac style global menu in xubuntu?
[18:00] <GridCube> church, not really
[18:00] <church> i saw something like xfce4 appmenu plugin .. for only old ubuntu versions :/
[18:02] <GridCube> yes
[18:03] <GridCube> but thats no longer possible, as its not mantained for current xfwm4 versions
[18:19] <gdos> church white not re-create the plugin?
[18:27] <church> i beleave problems stems from latest ubuntu (including appmenu indicators) being gtk3, but xfce4 - gtk2, no?
[18:28] <church> good that most DEs/WMs can be configured to look similar. bad that each has own limitations / limited miscellaneous plugins/applets sets
[18:30]  * church rarely upgrades distrib, so decided to install whatever is latest as of now, 13.10, but seems that gnome fallback option in it is much more limited/buggy then in 12.04, so finally started trying out alternatives
[18:30] <church> hate gnome3/unity, not too fond of kde, so hoped to get as much as possible from lightweight alternatives
[18:33] <__0x57__> I have compiz and emerald installed, and I have also selected a theme which i have downloaded, now the window decoratiosn have applied, but how come the font and the panel and everything else the theme is meant to modify has not worked ? any ideas
[18:35] <xubuntu604> Hmm...
[18:37] <xubuntu604> Are you 100% sure that you've applied these settings?
[18:38] <__0x57__> which settings?
[18:38] <xubuntu604> For the font and panel.
[18:38] <__0x57__> well this is my question
[18:38] <__0x57__> i thought when you click an emerald theme it aplpies aLL the settings
[18:38] <__0x57__> it seems to have only affected the windows
[18:39] <__0x57__> not the panel
[18:39] <xubuntu604> I see. You said you also had Compiz installed.
[18:39] <__0x57__> yeah
[18:39] <xubuntu604> Do they both work together, or do you need to interchange between them?
[18:40] <__0x57__> erm no everything seems to be fine, Im looking through the ccsm setings now to see if i have missed anything but.. not sure
[18:40] <xubuntu604> Yeah, try changing the panel and font settings for Compiz too.
[18:40] <xubuntu604> Tell me what happens after.
[18:41] <__0x57__> what i have done is compiz starts up, and then in window decoration settings, it is set to emerald insteal of gtk-decorator
[18:41] <__0x57__> is this right
[18:41] <__0x57__> ok where do youfind the panel and font settings in the ccsm, what heading is it under
[18:42] <xubuntu604> I think it's under the effects header, window decoration but I'm not certain.
[18:43] <__0x57__> not there
[18:44] <xubuntu604> What about desktop or general?
[18:45] <__0x57__> nope :/ also the desktop cube effect doesnt work would you have any idea why that isnt, and could these two issues be related
[18:46] <xubuntu604> I think the cube effects is disabled until the next update.
[18:46] <__0x57__> ahh ok
[18:46] <xubuntu604> Must be buggy.
[18:46] <__0x57__> im gonna try a reboot anyway
[18:46] <__0x57__> brb
[18:47] <xubuntu604> I wouldn't recommend Compiz and Emerald together by the way.
[18:47] <xubuntu604> See which you prefer more.
[18:47] <xubuntu604> Running them together causes conflicts.
[18:48] <xubuntu604> Unless Emerald requires compiz.
[18:48] <xubuntu604> I've confused myself.
[18:48] <__0x57__> no luck
[18:49] <xubuntu604> Emerald requires Compiz, doesn't it?
[18:49] <__0x57__> it seems really buggy using emerald with xubuntu
[18:49] <__0x57__> im not sure on the dependencies
[18:49] <__0x57__> i think emerald is justa  nice WM which intergrates with compiz ?
[18:49] <xubuntu604> Try Lubuntu. It's also lightweight.
[18:50] <__0x57__> i mean with emerald loaded now, i loaded up firefox and actually dragging the window via the title bar, the mouse wasnt registering i was clicking it, :S
[18:50] <xubuntu604> That's interesting...
[18:51] <xubuntu604> Try purging emerald and installing it again.
[18:51] <__0x57__> ok
[18:51] <xubuntu604> If you don't know how - sudo apt-get purge emerald
[18:51] <__0x57__> LOL so many things... i resized my term, and it starts resizing back to really small
[18:51] <__0x57__> WTF
[18:51] <__0x57__> i know cheers :)
[18:51] <GridCube> !language
[18:52] <xubuntu604> XD
[18:52] <xubuntu604> Sounds pretty messed up.
[18:52] <GridCube> compiz aint really supported anymore
[18:52] <xubuntu604> Really?
[18:53] <GridCube> pretty much
[18:53] <GridCube> except for unity
[18:53] <__0x57__> its not a big deal i suppose i just like the effects
[18:53] <xubuntu604> I don't use the usual XFCE effects.
[18:53] <__0x57__> its just one theme i want, and it needs emerald thats all
[18:53] <xubuntu604> I use Compiz because it eliminates screen tear.
[18:54] <__0x57__> yeah, there just some optional nice thigns like the cube
[18:55] <xubuntu604> Do you get kicked or banned for cursing in this chat?
[18:55] <__0x57__> i assume so
[18:55] <xubuntu604> Right after you said WTF, it mentioned not to use it.
[18:55] <__0x57__> yeah
[18:56] <GridCube> that was just a warning
[18:56] <GridCube> xubuntu604, please refrain to use that kind of language as well
[18:56] <GridCube> :=
[18:57] <GridCube> :)
[18:57] <xubuntu604> You have some immense power right there.
[18:58] <GridCube> P: not really
[18:58] <xubuntu604> Being able to change your name color and all.
[18:58] <xubuntu604> Hehehehehe.
[18:58] <GridCube> lol xubuntu604 thats just hilighting your name being mentioned
[18:59] <xubuntu604> Wait, how do you do it?
[18:59] <GridCube> i type your nick, using xu pressing tab and autocompleting it
[18:59] <GridCube> xubuntu604, like this
[18:59] <__0x57__> nice
[18:59] <GridCube> like __0x57__
[18:59] <__0x57__> liek GridCube
[19:00] <GridCube> see i press _ and tab
[19:00] <GridCube> exactly
[19:00] <xubuntu604> xubuntu604: Hohoho
[19:00] <__0x57__> lol althoughi  do hate it when you get those non interactive shells
[19:00] <xubuntu604> GridCube: Yehehehe
[19:00] <__0x57__> even no up arrows :P
[19:00] <GridCube> now your like is in red for me, instead of usual white, thats because my name was said
[19:00] <__0x57__> well what irc client are you using
[19:00] <xubuntu604> Makes sense.
[19:01] <GridCube> im using xchat, but thats an usual behaviour in any irc program
[19:01] <__0x57__> yeah but in mine it doesnt come up red
[19:01] <__0x57__> its orange or white, cant remember
[19:01] <xubuntu604> I hear that IRC is insecure.
[19:01] <__0x57__> its as secure as your connection..
[19:01] <GridCube> xubuntu604, __0x57__ this matters are not on the topic of support, so if we could move this chat to #xubuntu-offtopic
[19:02] <GridCube> that be great
[19:02] <__0x57__> aye cap'n
[19:03] <xubuntu604> What is with this enforcement!?
[19:03] <GridCube> !coc | xubuntu604
[19:03] <xubuntu604> What did you do to me?
[19:04] <GridCube> i sent you the Code of Conduct (coc) factoid :P
[19:04] <knome> xubuntu604, unless you have a support question, please keep to #xubuntu-offtopic or we might have to remove you from this channel. thanks for understanding
[19:06] <xubuntu604> That's just mean! Why isn't GridCube being warned? He doesn't have a support question.
[19:06] <knome> xubuntu604, if you want to discuss the policies further, you can join #ubuntu-ops.
[19:07] <GridCube> xubuntu604, thats because im inviting you to move to a better channel, not because i have a problem with you
[19:07] <GridCube> :)
[19:07] <xubuntu604> Oh, I see.
[19:07] <xubuntu604> Well, I'm just about to restart my computer anyway. So goodbye!
[19:21] <gdos> so how'd i get 2 versions of Python (2x & 3x) installed on my system? doesn't it come with 2x by default?
[19:25] <__0x57__> maybe you need both because you use a python app which required 3.x ?
[19:25] <__0x57__> its not a problem having bioth instaleld as some developers write code for python 3 which wont always with with 2.x
[20:40] <DJJeff> my Thunar and Mousepad keep locking up and freezing
[20:40] <DJJeff> I just ran a quick strace on the pid of the running Mousepad all I got was
[20:41] <DJJeff> root@gigabyte-H55M-UD2H:/# strace -p 4282 -fF
[20:41] <DJJeff> [pid  4282] write(2, "\n(mousepad:4282): GLib-GObject-C"..., 147
[20:41] <DJJeff> at it just hangs there
[20:41] <TheSheep> use lsof to see what file is that
[20:42] <TheSheep> but I guess 2 is stderr
[20:42] <TheSheep> you could look into your .xsessionerrors
[20:42] <DJJeff> [pid  4282] write(2, "\n(mousepad:4282): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **: g_closure_add_invalidate_notifier: assertion 'closure->n_inotifiers < CLOSURE_MAX_N_INOTIFIERS' failed\n",
[20:46] <DJJeff> here is a big list of crap about pid 4282 | http://pastebin.com/5u7e7iga
[20:53] <DJJeff> I did apt-get purge mousepad and reinstalled it still locks up and freezes
[20:54] <DJJeff> same with Thunar
[20:54] <DJJeff> so its not that applications fault its something else
[20:55] <sindre> Hey. Quick question. I've installed Xubuntu with one user. But I want to be able to switch between a steam session and xbmc session. Is it possible to set up the login window with one icon for user with steam session and one for user with xbmc session?
[20:55] <DJJeff> here is output from ldd /usr/bin/mousepad | http://pastebin.com/kq57C157
[20:56] <sindre> By default settings you have to change the session before login in
[21:03] <DJJeff> I guess I should say im running libglib2.0-0  (2.38.0)
[21:07] <brainwash> DJJeff: any reason why 2.38?
[21:08] <DJJeff> is that bad?
[21:08] <DJJeff> I am running 13.10 Saucy
[21:08] <brainwash> xubuntu 13.04 does not ship with 2.38, 13.10 does
[21:09] <brainwash> which is not supported in this channel :/
[21:09] <brainwash> #ubuntu+1 or #xubuntu-devel
[21:12] <DJJeff> 13.10 is set to release this month
[21:12] <DJJeff> says https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases
[21:14] <brainwash> see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SaucySalamander/ReleaseSchedule
[21:14] <brainwash> October 17th
[21:15] <brainwash> and you should consider filing a bug report on launchpad
[23:04] <kyo82> sera
[23:04] <kyo82> un aiuto per attivare i suoni di sistema? grazie
[23:06] <David-A> kyo82: espanol o portugese ? (this is for english, officially)
[23:06] <kyo82> sorry i'm italian
[23:06] <Unit193> !it
[23:07] <kyo82> thanks
[23:07] <kyo82> bye ;)
[23:14] <oswaldo> hi I blew up my original user and now I cant be root anymore
[23:14] <oswaldo> any recomendation?
[23:15] <David-A> oswaldo: if you have no other user with admin privileges on the system it will be a little difficult
[23:16] <oswaldo> David-A: can I do an init 3 or something?
[23:16] <Poisoned_Dragon> oswaldo, is the new account an admin account?
[23:17] <oswaldo> Poisoned_Dragon: no
[23:17] <Poisoned_Dragon> oops
[23:17] <oswaldo> we delete the default account
[23:17] <oswaldo> and the new accounts don't have that
[23:17] <oswaldo> I want to know how to make new accounts with admin accounts first of all
[23:18] <oswaldo> and then, if init 3 can recover the original root account
[23:18] <Poisoned_Dragon> the root account hasn't left
[23:18] <Poisoned_Dragon> it's still there
[23:18] <David-A> oswaldo: do you have an option for "recovery" mode in the grub boot menu?
[23:18] <oswaldo> yes
[23:19] <oswaldo> David-A: not sure, I am on the current system so I cant check
[23:19] <oswaldo> let me se the /boot folder
[23:25] <colehub> So.
[23:26] <colehub> Xubuntu.
[23:35] <JZA> hi I need to know how to boot into an SD card
[23:35] <JZA> I installed xubuntu into the SD card but fail during the grub setup
[23:35] <JZA> I wonder how can I boot into it from another USB drive
[23:35] <JZA> basically load the MBR and point to the SD card on the grub menu