[00:23] <cjwelborn> !info linux-image
[03:11] <redDragon> is there a way to move the panel widget around in the system tray panel
[03:11] <redDragon> something like dragging them
[03:11] <redDragon> and placing them whereever I wish?
[03:15] <tsimpson> redDragon: press the cashew, then you should be able to position them
[03:16] <redDragon> tsimpson: whats a cashew?
[03:16] <tsimpson> the little icon you use to open the menu to resize the panel, add widgets, etc
[03:16] <redDragon> ah
[03:16] <redDragon> got it
[03:16] <redDragon> tsimpson: thank you !!
[03:16] <tsimpson> sure :)
[03:22] <FloodBotK1> !netsplit
[04:10] <Whiskey`Wonka> ive got a box VERSION="12.10, Quantal Quetzal" that I want to update but the mirrors are going at 4kb/s. Its NOT a network issue ive got 50mbit and 10mbit is in use, i can wget from palces at 25+mbit. any way to make apt-get pull from many sources??
[04:20] <valorie> Whiskey`Wonka: sounds like you want a torrent
[04:20]  * valorie is seeding atm
[04:20] <Whiskey`Wonka> valorie: sure but apt-get can not use them
[04:21] <Whiskey`Wonka> and i dont want ot pull the entire multi gig repo for these 500mb or some odd packages
[04:21] <valorie> ok
[04:22] <Whiskey`Wonka> itm ight be faster to do it tho, uhg!
[04:22] <Whiskey`Wonka> ttp://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ is going slooooooooooow
[04:22] <valorie> some people do set up their own local archive
[04:22] <Whiskey`Wonka> ya
[04:23] <valorie> zsync seems like the best way to keep that current
[07:26] <gsedej_work> Hi! I would like to use Alt+1 for switching to first tab in browsers. Somehow it does not work (other numbers work). There is no other shortcut for Alt+1
[07:32] <sbivol> gsedej_work: I just tested in Firefox and Rekonq, on Kubuntu 13.04. both work with Alt+F1
[07:33] <sbivol> maybe you have that combination assigned to some shortcut?
[07:36] <sbivol> gsedej_work: Alt+1, I mean
[07:46] <gsedej_work> sbivol, it works in gnome for both firefox and chromium
[07:46] <gsedej_work> and it works in kde for alt+2, 3, 4 ...
[07:46] <gsedej_work> but not alt+1 which is for first tab (mail)
[09:28] <VodkaLemmon> lordievader:
[10:18] <debfan_> can someone help me with server clock problem?   my ntpdate has .. I think the offset problem?
[10:18] <debfan_> ''no servers can be used, exiting'
[11:17] <obert> hello, i got a wrong date; i downloaded my lang locale files and installed them, i got the wrong date though
[11:36] <lordievader> Good afternoon.
[12:03] <evilC> Hi all, I wonder if anyone can help me work around a kubuntu bug stopping multi-monitor from working?
[12:04] <evilC> (Well, ubuntu suffers from the same bug, would I need to report it there?)
[12:05] <evilC> specifically, when plugging more than one monitor into a secondary GPU, you cannot use the computer as it always displays the login screen
[12:07] <obert> i changed my time zone into mine, but i still see "hh:mm PM" in the clock on the right bottom side
[12:43] <kaddi> has anybody here installed ubuntu on a samsung ativ book 9? (940x3g). Is it safe to do so or can it brick the machine? How well does linux run on it?
[13:01] <BluesKaj> Hi folks
[14:33] <woon> 你好
[14:34] <lordievader> !china| woon
[14:46] <woon> join#ubuntu-cn
[15:17] <judgen> how do i set how many % the audio volume changes when using the scroll wheel over the kmix icon?
[16:34] <zafan> Hi hi
[18:34] <danboid> Is there a guide on how to compile kde-baseapps from git under Ubuntu anywhere?
[18:36] <danboid> I've found this http://techbase.kde.org/Development/Tutorials/Building_An_Existing_Application
[18:36] <danboid> but its very generic
[18:37] <danboid> It lists about 20 envvars you need to define before it will build!
[18:38] <danboid> I expect not all are required
[20:23] <rodnice> QUESTION: Does anyone know how I would go about fixing AUDIO?  Specifically, Studio programs (Ardour, Hydrogen) tend to hog all of the audio when they are opened and don't let go of the resource until I restart the computer.
[20:41] <acooper> Howdy.  I notice that kubuntu has something called LightDM instead of KDM.  How big a deal is it to install KDM instead?  I looking online but haven't found anything specific about that yet.
[20:45] <Authority> acooper: I've flip-flopped between LightDM and KDM in the past and don't remember any particular difficulties
[20:46] <acooper> Cool.  Is is just a matter of running the "sudo dpkg-reconfigure kdm" command?
[20:46] <Authority> seems like after the installation of KDM, it will present a little dialog to let you choose which login manager you want to use
[20:46] <Authority> or that
[20:47] <acooper> Should I be using kdesudo instead of sudo for some reason?
[20:57] <acooper> Alright, that was easy enough.  Thanks Authority.
[20:58] <kita> nn
[20:59] <kita> hello there am new to this
[21:17] <rodnice> Question: Cloning a Drive: How would I go about that?
[21:29] <michaelkrtikos> Hello everyone
[21:31] <michaelkrtikos> could you please help me with the instant messaging? It seems that i cannot login to facebook chat via Empathy or Instant Messages Contacts
[21:31] <michaelkrtikos> I get an authorization failed error
[21:32] <michaelkrtikos> Let me say that with pidgin i can connect
[21:36] <Mamarok> rodnice: the tool commonly used to cloe a drive is called dd
[21:37] <Mamarok> to clone* an drive
[21:37] <rodnice> Mamarok: is there a GUI you could suggest?
[21:38] <Mamarok> nope, stuff like that is usually not done in a GUI
[21:38] <septix> hey guys im trying to use an usb dvb-s2 box under my kubuntu 13.10, could anybody tell me whats the problem with make is? http://paste.frubar.net/15713
[21:39] <Mamarok> septix: are you following a guide for that? You didn't specify a target
[21:39] <septix> yes i follow a readme file, would you like to see it Mamarok ?
[21:40] <Mamarok> septix: not really, you should read it again as you probably missed a step, the error you pasted tells you what you did wrong
[21:40] <rodnice> Mamarok: I hope I'm using the correct terminology. So if I want to copy my current laptop as is (without probably media files) and install it to another computer, that is called "cloning" correct?
[21:40] <Mamarok> rodnice: yes
[21:41] <Mamarok> but cloning takes a lot of time, you would be probably better of to just backup your files and then make a fresh installation
[21:41] <septix> Mamarok, the readme says "build and install the driver with make && make install", thats what i tried, "make"
[21:41] <Mamarok> espeically if the operating system is also on that drive
[21:42] <rodnice> oh
[21:42] <Mamarok> and if the laptop specifications are not exactly the same this will not work
[21:42] <rodnice> OK
[21:42] <rodnice> Ohhhh OK OK
[21:42] <rodnice> yeah I guess you're right
[21:42] <Mamarok> septix: make needs a target, and you probably don't have all dependencies
[21:42] <rodnice> just being lazy and don't want to setup my system again with all the tweeks
[21:43] <Mamarok> septix: are you sure you need a driver that is not available in a repo?
[21:43] <Mamarok> rodnice: I fear that cloing is not meant for that, it is used to duplicate identical installations, including the same ahrdware
[21:43] <Mamarok> very handy in big deplyoments
[21:44] <Mamarok> not suitable if you change your hardware
[21:44] <rodnice> ahhhhh
[21:44] <rodnice> Mamarok: Thanks man!
[21:44] <Mamarok> you are welcome, but I am not a man :)
[21:44] <rodnice> I'll read up on dd
[21:44] <septix> i dont really know, its a DVB-S2 USB Box with a driver supplied by the company, i dont really know much things about this thats why i strictly try to install whats on the delivered cd Mamarok
[21:44] <rodnice> Mamarok: sorry!
[21:45] <rodnice> Where is Paparok?
[21:45] <rodnice> j/k
[21:45] <Mamarok> septix: well, the drivers are usually meant for Windows, not for Linux
[21:45] <rodnice> Mamarok: so what is Ubuntu Customization Kit and Remastersys for?
[21:45] <septix> Mamarok, this company delivered a linux driver on the cd
[21:46] <Mamarok> rodnice: no idea, did you google it? But really reinstalling a Kubuntu and just copying over your personal files with rsync is really much easier, believe me
[21:46] <Mamarok> and you would get a fresh installation without all the cruft you probably have on the old one
[21:46] <rodnice> OK... see I need to get Windows out of my head
[21:46] <Mamarok> yep
[21:47] <Mamarok> especially since a fresh installation of a Kubuntu system takes less than an hour
[21:47] <Mamarok> not like Windows :)
[21:47] <rodnice> Mamarok: take care. I gotta go.  you're the bestest! (that is a word... at least now it is)
[21:47] <Mamarok> :)
[21:47] <wikus> INDEX
[21:47] <Mamarok> septix: did you try to just connect to it without that driver first?
[21:48] <Mamarok> wikus: please read the topic
[21:52] <septix> Mamarok, well, i came from another dristribution, there i tried just "plug and play", since the delivered drivers are for ubuntu based systems i installed kubuntu real quick
[21:53] <Mamarok> septix: what puzzles me is the kernel number, is that the Linux kernel? seems not to be what is current in 13.10
[21:54] <septix> uname -r throws 3.11.0-12-generic
[21:54] <septix> i installed 3.04 and updated to 3.10
[21:55] <Mamarok> well, that error message talks about a kernel 3.1.2, which is definitely not the right one
[21:55] <Mamarok> so the driver provided is precompiled for a much older kernel
[21:55] <Mamarok> I guess
[21:56] <Mamarok> which is not surprising as hardware manufacturers are rarely up-to-date when it comes to Linux
[21:59] <septix> ah thats right, i didnt payed attention to that, i tried something and have to reboot now, i will be right back and post the result Mamarok :)
[22:00] <goodtime> hmmph
[22:01] <goodtime> hey BluesKaj you available?
[22:02] <goodtime> need some info man
[22:03] <septix> so back i am
[22:06] <septix> Mamarok, because of you i recognized i was in the wrong folder with the OLD driver the whole time :/.. the output of the new driver i a little different, but i get an error too: http://paste.frubar.net/15714
[22:07] <Mamarok> septix: did you use sudo rights?
[22:07] <septix> i have a root terminal running
[22:07] <goodtime> and?
[22:08] <goodtime> so i guess your ready to install or change things as root...
[22:08] <Mamarok> goodtime: YOu were not here earlier, please...
[22:09] <goodtime> septix are you trying to do something as root?
[22:09] <Mamarok> goodtime: yes, he is, and you lack half an hour of what we were doing earlier, so please
[22:10] <goodtime> because if you dont know what your doing as root youll prob mess things up a bit
[22:10] <goodtime> ok sorry
[22:10] <goodtime> my bad i just like helping
[22:10] <goodtime>  if possibale
[22:10] <Mamarok> septix: did you try to erase the build folder and start from scratch?
[22:11] <Mamarok> goodtime: well, as I said, this is something that started long before you came in, and I am handling it
[22:11] <goodtime> ok   ;)
[22:12] <septix> Mamarok, do you mean deleati
[22:12] <septix> deleating the /lib/modules/3.11.0-12-generic/build folder?
[22:12] <Mamarok> no, don't tuch that one, but the folder you are in when you run make
[22:12] <septix> no, but i can do that real quick
[22:12] <Mamarok> I presume you had to create a new folder
[22:13] <Mamarok> and make writes stuff in the folder, so maybe the old config files it did create are not valid anymore
[22:13] <Mamarok> just don't erase anything in /lib/
[22:14] <septix> alright, thats because i got confused i would never delete something there without exactly knowing what i do
[22:15] <Mamarok> septix: in your home folder you can do what you want, just don't do anythin in a system folder with sudo rights
[22:15] <Mamarok> septix: as I said: you are working in your home folder, aren't you? because if you are in a system folder that is very wrong
[22:17] <septix> yes i am in my home follder, i just typed su and use root currently so i didnt have to type sudo everytime
[22:17] <Mamarok> well, in kubuntu you shouldn't use su
[22:17] <Mamarok> use sudo, eventually sudo -i if you don't want to have to enter your password repeatedly
[22:20] <septix> ok i will do that, thanks for the tipp. Here is the new output of a "fresh" try http://paste.frubar.net/15715
[22:22] <Mamarok> same error as before, I guess it is about time to check the manufacturer's website
[22:25] <septix> sounds bad
[22:26] <Mamarok> no, maybe there is an update available intheir support
[22:27] <Mamarok> quit often the case
[22:28] <Mamarok> as the software delivered with the hardware is rarely up-to-date
[22:42] <septix> ok Mamarok i looked around little bit and might found something, have to reboot again, if your are still here later i will report you, if not thanks for your help so far
[22:57] <rodnice> Mamarok: you there?
[22:59] <Mamarok> rodnice: just
[22:59] <rodnice> Mamarok: so why wouldn't I use Ubuntu Customization Kit?
[22:59] <Mamarok> rodnice: I don't know it
[23:00] <Mamarok> can't tell
[23:00] <rodnice> ok
[23:00] <Mamarok> but I doubt you will spare time with that
[23:00] <rodnice> Mamarok: ok let's say I do have 3 identical machines I just bought and wanted to set up a small lab for the public or something...
[23:01] <rodnice> Mamarok: what's the prefered way of getting them to look identical?
[23:01] <Mamarok> rodnice: well, yes, but you are aware that the customization kit is just creating a Live CD with specifications you want
[23:01] <Mamarok> it will not install anything
[23:02] <Mamarok> so why not just backing up your data, do a fresh install of you new laptop and then copy the date you need back?
[23:02] <Mamarok> especially since a Live CD is probably not big enough for a whole system, let alone a complete HD
[23:02] <rodnice> Mamarok: yes, for one laptop, I'll do what you said.  However, if I come into that down the line with like 4 desktop computers...
[23:03] <rodnice> yeah you're right... it always fits on a DVD
[23:03] <Mamarok> read my last line
[23:03] <Mamarok> my system for example would never fit on one DVD
[23:04] <rodnice> Mamarok: wow, so what do system admins do? Like places like public libraries where all the computers for the public need to be the same?
[23:04] <Mamarok> and if you are planing to install an identical system on 4 desktops, then use dd, much faster
[23:05] <Mamarok> well, those public computers are often equipped with a reduced set of applications,
[23:05] <Mamarok> so that would certainly even fit on a Life CD
[23:05] <Mamarok> all depends on what is the target
[23:06] <rodnice> Mamarok: ah, the dreaded dd, lol.  I would need to read a pretty substantial book to begin using that?  I don't mind, I'm just trying to figure out future options.
[23:06] <Mamarok> no, there are guides online, and man dd is the starting point
[23:07] <Mamarok> as dd is part of every bsic Linux installation
[23:08] <Mamarok> but if you want to be a sysadmin then there are a few books to read indeed, as it is a full-time job after all :)
[23:08] <rodnice> lol
[23:08] <rodnice> ok
[23:09] <rodnice> shoot... I was trying to take the Windows way out of this one lol
[23:09] <Mamarok> oh my, you will have a GUI that doesn't explain what is happening and you will have learned nothing
[23:10] <Mamarok> dd at least is not that doifficult to learn and you also learn something you will document for yourself and will be able to re-use
[23:10] <Mamarok> for free
[23:14] <rodnice> Mamarok: same advice I give my lazy friends but hate when it applies to me lol
[23:14] <rodnice> Mamarok: Somedays I don't wanna be the pilot... I just wanna pay the ticket and ride 1st class :-)
[23:19] <Mamarok> rodnice: yes, we are all lazy at times :)
[23:19] <Mamarok> ok, bedtime for me now, good night everyone
[23:19] <rodnice> gnight
[23:26] <rodnice> QUESTION: Does anyone know how I would go about fixing AUDIO?  Specifically, Studio programs (Ardour, Hydrogen) tend to hog all of the audio when they are opened and don't let go of the resource until I restart the computer.
[23:43] <advnet> oi