[00:23] !info linux-image [00:23] linux-image (source: linux-meta): Generic Linux kernel image.. In component main, is optional. Version 3.8.0.31.49 (raring), package size 1 kB, installed size 33 kB [03:11] is there a way to move the panel widget around in the system tray panel [03:11] something like dragging them [03:11] and placing them whereever I wish? [03:15] redDragon: press the cashew, then you should be able to position them [03:16] tsimpson: whats a cashew? [03:16] the little icon you use to open the menu to resize the panel, add widgets, etc [03:16] ah [03:16] got it [03:16] tsimpson: thank you !! [03:16] sure :) [03:22] !netsplit [03:22] netsplit is when two IRC servers of the same network (like freenode) disconnect from each other, so users on one server stop seeing users on the other. If this is happening now, just relax and enjoy the show. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netsplit === K1rk_ is now known as K1rk [04:10] ive got a box VERSION="12.10, Quantal Quetzal" that I want to update but the mirrors are going at 4kb/s. Its NOT a network issue ive got 50mbit and 10mbit is in use, i can wget from palces at 25+mbit. any way to make apt-get pull from many sources?? [04:20] Whiskey`Wonka: sounds like you want a torrent [04:20] * valorie is seeding atm [04:20] valorie: sure but apt-get can not use them [04:21] and i dont want ot pull the entire multi gig repo for these 500mb or some odd packages [04:21] ok [04:22] itm ight be faster to do it tho, uhg! [04:22] ttp://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ is going slooooooooooow [04:22] some people do set up their own local archive [04:22] ya [04:23] zsync seems like the best way to keep that current === soul is now known as Guest43615 === lordieva1er is now known as lordievader [07:26] Hi! I would like to use Alt+1 for switching to first tab in browsers. Somehow it does not work (other numbers work). There is no other shortcut for Alt+1 [07:32] gsedej_work: I just tested in Firefox and Rekonq, on Kubuntu 13.04. both work with Alt+F1 [07:33] maybe you have that combination assigned to some shortcut? [07:36] gsedej_work: Alt+1, I mean === wxl_ is now known as wxl [07:46] sbivol, it works in gnome for both firefox and chromium [07:46] and it works in kde for alt+2, 3, 4 ... [07:46] but not alt+1 which is for first tab (mail) === kishore is now known as Guest46608 === Jikan is now known as Jikai === Jikai is now known as Jikan === dmitrykorotkov is now known as Guest32694 [09:28] lordievader: === JonathanS is now known as JonathanD === chema is now known as chema__ [10:18] can someone help me with server clock problem? my ntpdate has .. I think the offset problem? [10:18] ''no servers can be used, exiting' [11:17] hello, i got a wrong date; i downloaded my lang locale files and installed them, i got the wrong date though === spawn[dead] is now known as spawnie [11:36] Good afternoon. [12:03] Hi all, I wonder if anyone can help me work around a kubuntu bug stopping multi-monitor from working? [12:04] (Well, ubuntu suffers from the same bug, would I need to report it there?) [12:05] specifically, when plugging more than one monitor into a secondary GPU, you cannot use the computer as it always displays the login screen [12:07] i changed my time zone into mine, but i still see "hh:mm PM" in the clock on the right bottom side === soul is now known as Guest83865 [12:43] has anybody here installed ubuntu on a samsung ativ book 9? (940x3g). Is it safe to do so or can it brick the machine? How well does linux run on it? === kevin is now known as Guest58027 === spawnie is now known as spawn[dead] [13:01] Hi folks === dmitrykorotkov_ is now known as Guest10319 [14:33] 你好 [14:34] !china| woon [14:34] woon: 如欲獲得中文的協助，請輸入 /join #ubuntu-cn 或 /join #ubuntu-tw [14:46] join#ubuntu-cn === dewdrop_ is now known as dewdrop === pesa is now known as Guest22076 [15:17] how do i set how many % the audio volume changes when using the scroll wheel over the kmix icon? === kubuntu is now known as vrcca === gw is now known as Guest20652 [16:34] Hi hi === christian is now known as Guest60239 === Guest60239 is now known as crodriguez === kishore is now known as Guest89470 [18:34] Is there a guide on how to compile kde-baseapps from git under Ubuntu anywhere? [18:36] I've found this http://techbase.kde.org/Development/Tutorials/Building_An_Existing_Application [18:36] but its very generic [18:37] It lists about 20 envvars you need to define before it will build! [18:38] I expect not all are required === ubuntu is now known as AaAa-HacKerSs-To === jeremie_ is now known as binaryFate === kevin is now known as Guest53177 === msx is now known as Guest10939 === msx_ is now known as msx [20:23] QUESTION: Does anyone know how I would go about fixing AUDIO? Specifically, Studio programs (Ardour, Hydrogen) tend to hog all of the audio when they are opened and don't let go of the resource until I restart the computer. [20:41] Howdy. I notice that kubuntu has something called LightDM instead of KDM. How big a deal is it to install KDM instead? I looking online but haven't found anything specific about that yet. [20:45] acooper: I've flip-flopped between LightDM and KDM in the past and don't remember any particular difficulties [20:46] Cool. Is is just a matter of running the "sudo dpkg-reconfigure kdm" command? [20:46] seems like after the installation of KDM, it will present a little dialog to let you choose which login manager you want to use [20:46] or that [20:47] Should I be using kdesudo instead of sudo for some reason? [20:57] Alright, that was easy enough. Thanks Authority. [20:58] nn [20:59] hello there am new to this [21:17] Question: Cloning a Drive: How would I go about that? [21:29] Hello everyone [21:31] could you please help me with the instant messaging? It seems that i cannot login to facebook chat via Empathy or Instant Messages Contacts [21:31] I get an authorization failed error [21:32] Let me say that with pidgin i can connect [21:36] rodnice: the tool commonly used to cloe a drive is called dd [21:37] to clone* an drive [21:37] Mamarok: is there a GUI you could suggest? [21:38] nope, stuff like that is usually not done in a GUI [21:38] hey guys im trying to use an usb dvb-s2 box under my kubuntu 13.10, could anybody tell me whats the problem with make is? http://paste.frubar.net/15713 [21:39] septix: are you following a guide for that? You didn't specify a target [21:39] yes i follow a readme file, would you like to see it Mamarok ? [21:40] septix: not really, you should read it again as you probably missed a step, the error you pasted tells you what you did wrong [21:40] Mamarok: I hope I'm using the correct terminology. So if I want to copy my current laptop as is (without probably media files) and install it to another computer, that is called "cloning" correct? [21:40] rodnice: yes [21:41] but cloning takes a lot of time, you would be probably better of to just backup your files and then make a fresh installation [21:41] Mamarok, the readme says "build and install the driver with make && make install", thats what i tried, "make" [21:41] espeically if the operating system is also on that drive [21:42] oh [21:42] and if the laptop specifications are not exactly the same this will not work [21:42] OK [21:42] Ohhhh OK OK [21:42] yeah I guess you're right [21:42] septix: make needs a target, and you probably don't have all dependencies [21:42] just being lazy and don't want to setup my system again with all the tweeks [21:43] septix: are you sure you need a driver that is not available in a repo? [21:43] rodnice: I fear that cloing is not meant for that, it is used to duplicate identical installations, including the same ahrdware [21:43] very handy in big deplyoments [21:44] not suitable if you change your hardware [21:44] ahhhhh [21:44] Mamarok: Thanks man! [21:44] you are welcome, but I am not a man :) [21:44] I'll read up on dd [21:44] i dont really know, its a DVB-S2 USB Box with a driver supplied by the company, i dont really know much things about this thats why i strictly try to install whats on the delivered cd Mamarok [21:44] Mamarok: sorry! [21:45] Where is Paparok? [21:45] j/k [21:45] septix: well, the drivers are usually meant for Windows, not for Linux [21:45] Mamarok: so what is Ubuntu Customization Kit and Remastersys for? [21:45] Mamarok, this company delivered a linux driver on the cd [21:46] rodnice: no idea, did you google it? But really reinstalling a Kubuntu and just copying over your personal files with rsync is really much easier, believe me [21:46] and you would get a fresh installation without all the cruft you probably have on the old one [21:46] OK... see I need to get Windows out of my head [21:46] yep [21:47] especially since a fresh installation of a Kubuntu system takes less than an hour [21:47] not like Windows :) [21:47] Mamarok: take care. I gotta go. you're the bestest! (that is a word... at least now it is) [21:47] :) [21:47] INDEX [21:47] septix: did you try to just connect to it without that driver first? [21:48] wikus: please read the topic [21:52] Mamarok, well, i came from another dristribution, there i tried just "plug and play", since the delivered drivers are for ubuntu based systems i installed kubuntu real quick [21:53] septix: what puzzles me is the kernel number, is that the Linux kernel? seems not to be what is current in 13.10 [21:54] uname -r throws 3.11.0-12-generic [21:54] i installed 3.04 and updated to 3.10 [21:55] well, that error message talks about a kernel 3.1.2, which is definitely not the right one [21:55] so the driver provided is precompiled for a much older kernel [21:55] I guess [21:56] which is not surprising as hardware manufacturers are rarely up-to-date when it comes to Linux [21:59] ah thats right, i didnt payed attention to that, i tried something and have to reboot now, i will be right back and post the result Mamarok :) [22:00] hmmph [22:01] hey BluesKaj you available? [22:02] need some info man [22:03] so back i am [22:06] Mamarok, because of you i recognized i was in the wrong folder with the OLD driver the whole time :/.. the output of the new driver i a little different, but i get an error too: http://paste.frubar.net/15714 [22:07] septix: did you use sudo rights? [22:07] i have a root terminal running [22:07] and? [22:08] so i guess your ready to install or change things as root... [22:08] goodtime: YOu were not here earlier, please... [22:09] septix are you trying to do something as root? [22:09] goodtime: yes, he is, and you lack half an hour of what we were doing earlier, so please [22:10] because if you dont know what your doing as root youll prob mess things up a bit [22:10] ok sorry [22:10] my bad i just like helping [22:10] if possibale [22:10] septix: did you try to erase the build folder and start from scratch? [22:11] goodtime: well, as I said, this is something that started long before you came in, and I am handling it [22:11] ok ;) [22:12] Mamarok, do you mean deleati [22:12] deleating the /lib/modules/3.11.0-12-generic/build folder? [22:12] no, don't tuch that one, but the folder you are in when you run make [22:12] no, but i can do that real quick [22:12] I presume you had to create a new folder [22:13] and make writes stuff in the folder, so maybe the old config files it did create are not valid anymore [22:13] just don't erase anything in /lib/ [22:14] alright, thats because i got confused i would never delete something there without exactly knowing what i do [22:15] septix: in your home folder you can do what you want, just don't do anythin in a system folder with sudo rights [22:15] septix: as I said: you are working in your home folder, aren't you? because if you are in a system folder that is very wrong [22:17] yes i am in my home follder, i just typed su and use root currently so i didnt have to type sudo everytime [22:17] well, in kubuntu you shouldn't use su [22:17] use sudo, eventually sudo -i if you don't want to have to enter your password repeatedly [22:20] ok i will do that, thanks for the tipp. Here is the new output of a "fresh" try http://paste.frubar.net/15715 [22:22] same error as before, I guess it is about time to check the manufacturer's website [22:25] sounds bad [22:26] no, maybe there is an update available intheir support [22:27] quit often the case [22:28] as the software delivered with the hardware is rarely up-to-date [22:42] ok Mamarok i looked around little bit and might found something, have to reboot again, if your are still here later i will report you, if not thanks for your help so far [22:57] Mamarok: you there? [22:59] rodnice: just [22:59] Mamarok: so why wouldn't I use Ubuntu Customization Kit? [22:59] rodnice: I don't know it [23:00] can't tell [23:00] ok [23:00] but I doubt you will spare time with that [23:00] Mamarok: ok let's say I do have 3 identical machines I just bought and wanted to set up a small lab for the public or something... === samaire is now known as samaire_ === samaire_ is now known as samaire__ === samaire__ is now known as samaire_ [23:01] Mamarok: what's the prefered way of getting them to look identical? [23:01] rodnice: well, yes, but you are aware that the customization kit is just creating a Live CD with specifications you want [23:01] it will not install anything [23:02] so why not just backing up your data, do a fresh install of you new laptop and then copy the date you need back? [23:02] especially since a Live CD is probably not big enough for a whole system, let alone a complete HD [23:02] Mamarok: yes, for one laptop, I'll do what you said. However, if I come into that down the line with like 4 desktop computers... [23:03] yeah you're right... it always fits on a DVD [23:03] read my last line [23:03] my system for example would never fit on one DVD [23:04] Mamarok: wow, so what do system admins do? Like places like public libraries where all the computers for the public need to be the same? [23:04] and if you are planing to install an identical system on 4 desktops, then use dd, much faster [23:05] well, those public computers are often equipped with a reduced set of applications, [23:05] so that would certainly even fit on a Life CD [23:05] all depends on what is the target [23:06] Mamarok: ah, the dreaded dd, lol. I would need to read a pretty substantial book to begin using that? I don't mind, I'm just trying to figure out future options. [23:06] no, there are guides online, and man dd is the starting point [23:07] as dd is part of every bsic Linux installation [23:08] but if you want to be a sysadmin then there are a few books to read indeed, as it is a full-time job after all :) [23:08] lol [23:08] ok [23:09] shoot... I was trying to take the Windows way out of this one lol [23:09] oh my, you will have a GUI that doesn't explain what is happening and you will have learned nothing [23:10] dd at least is not that doifficult to learn and you also learn something you will document for yourself and will be able to re-use [23:10] for free [23:14] Mamarok: same advice I give my lazy friends but hate when it applies to me lol [23:14] Mamarok: Somedays I don't wanna be the pilot... I just wanna pay the ticket and ride 1st class :-) [23:19] rodnice: yes, we are all lazy at times :) [23:19] ok, bedtime for me now, good night everyone [23:19] gnight [23:26] QUESTION: Does anyone know how I would go about fixing AUDIO? Specifically, Studio programs (Ardour, Hydrogen) tend to hog all of the audio when they are opened and don't let go of the resource until I restart the computer. [23:43] oi